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From YouTube: Columbus GA FY24 Budget Review Meeting 05 16 2023
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Columbus GA FY24 Budget Review Meeting 05 16 2023
A
The
city
Charter
outlines
the
budget
process,
and
the
charter
says
that
the
city
manager
will
prepare
a
recommended
budget
and
that
that
for
the
mayor
to
approve
tweak
whatever
he
wishes
to
do
with
it,
he
or
she
wishes
to
do
with
it.
And
then
the
mayor
presents
that
recommended
budget
to
the
budget
committee.
We
then
have
meetings
throughout
three
times,
so
that
people
who
Department
chairs,
who
want
to
have
additions
to
their
budget,
can
come
before
us
and
and
make
their
presentation
we
are.
A
A
A
B
A
A
So
that's
generally
the
process
that
we
follow
here
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
budget
that
represents
the
needs
of
our
community
I'm.
Going
to
ask
the
mayor
if
he
would
like
to
begin
this
morning,
give
us
a
few
words
of
encouragement,
perhaps
or
a
few
words
of
recommendation,
perhaps
or
just
just
say:
hi
hi,.
C
Well,
no
I
will
say
Madam
budget
chair
some
encouragement
that
I
would
give
to
council.
First
of
all,
thank
you
all
for
your
deliberations.
It's
not
easy
to
sit
down
and
start
going
through.
All
of
this,
in
fact,
it's
pretty
daggone,
difficult
and
I
appreciate
the
way
all
of
you
have
taken
so
seriously.
C
Many
of
them
need
what
they're
asking
for
very
very
badly,
but
the
challenge
is
is
when
we
have
things
that
are
going
to
impact
our
budget
on
on
in
an
ongoing
basis
as
we
move
forward,
and
you
know
their
their
there,
they
become
operational
expenses
that
is
difficult
to
offset
with
fund
balance
Reserve,
because
that's
you
know,
as
we've
said
and
y'all
have
said,
is
it's
kind
of
like
paying
your
mortgage
out
of
your
savings
account?
It
works
fine
for
a
couple
months,
but
pretty
soon
you
got.
You
got
a
problem.
C
So
I
know
that
that
this
this
group
is
going
to
be
looking
very
intently
at
other
areas
of
the
government.
Looking
for
some
offsets,
so
you
know,
I
just
would
encourage
y'all
to
continue
to
work
as
hard
as
you
are,
and
and
also
to
remember
that
that
when
we
encumber
that
fund
balance
Reserve
going
forward,
that's
that's
probably
not
an
ideal
way
to
be
able
to
continue
operate,
operate
the
government,
but
but
thank
you
all
for
what
you're
doing.
A
D
D
I
will
say
to
you
that
in
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
some
have
said
well,
I
should
have
gotten
on
the
list.
In
fact,
I
see
Holly
brighter
is
on
the
list.
She
wanted
to
get
off
the
list
because
she
realized
that
this
is
a
tough
process
and
we'll
just
figure
it
out,
but
I
encourage
her
to
stay
on
the
list,
and
so
she
I
see
that
she's.
Here
today,
our
finance
director
who's
leading
this
process
said
well.
I
have
many
needs
and
I
should
have
gotten
on.
D
D
A
A
This
is
not
something
that
any
of
us,
the
mayor,
the
city
manager
or
any
of
the
city
councilors
take
lightly,
and
so
Mr
city
manager.
I,
do
want
to
thank
you,
too,
for
the
work
of
your
staff,
the
finance
director
and
her
staff
and
putting
all
of
this
together.
Sometimes
my
eyes
do
this.
You
know
trying
to
look
at
all
of
it,
but
that's.
A
B
A
A
E
E
We
have
a
long
list
of
needs
in
our
department,
but
in
the
current
climate
we
were
going
to
try
to
continue
to
do
the
best
that
we
could,
but
I
felt
it
was
kind
of
my
obligation
to
come
before
you,
and
at
least
let
you
see
where
we're
coming
from
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
need.
Obviously,
in
the
essence
of
time,
I
could
not
include
everything
in
my
list
today
and
you're
going
to
go.
E
E
That
we
have
before
you
today
it's
going
to
consist
of
two
areas:
one
is
going
to
be
Staffing
and
the
other
is
going
to
be
capital.
Thank
you
primarily,
but
many
times,
and
this
is
the
big
push
for
why
I'm
here
today
many
times
our
counselors
come
to
me
and
my
staff
as
well
as
Citizens,
and
ask
us:
why
aren't
you
able
to
do
more?
Why
aren't
you
able
to
do
the
things
that
you've
done
previously
in
years
past?
E
E
Well
with
that
I'm
going
to
tell
you
it's
primarily
staff,
that's
the
biggest
component
of
what
runs
our
department
is
staff,
so
I
want
you
to
know
where
we
came
from
and
I'm
going
to
take
us
back
for
any
of
you
who
are
on
Council
in
06,
that's
about
where
this
starts
for
us,
so
an
06.
Until
now,
we've
been
unfunded,
approximately
34,
full-time
and
70
part-time
positions,
those
biggest
Cuts
came
in
06.
We
lost
44
employees
within
our
department
and
in
07
we
lost
another,
roughly
33
So.
E
But
but
in
some
areas,
sometimes
that's
just
not
enough,
but
as
a
result
of
all
the
cuts
that
we've
had.
We
just
don't
have
the
manpower
to
maintain
the
parks
or
to
operate
the
facilities,
the
hours
that
we
would
like
to
see.
We
just
can't
do
it,
and
these
are
things
that
the
community
and
some
of
you
ask
me
on
a
regular
basis
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
and
often
I
have
to
say
look.
We
will
do
the
best.
E
We
can
we'll
get
out
there
and
we'll
get
it
done
as
soon
as
possible.
When
that's
not
necessarily
the
answer,
I
would
love
to
give
you
a
better
one,
but
it's
based
on
what
resources
we
currently
have
so
going
there
I'm
going
to
give
you,
rather
than
included
on
every
single
slide.
I
just
did
a
really
quick
overview
of
positions
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
wages
or
salaries
for
those
positions,
and
so
these
are
some
of
the
positions
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
and
you'll
see
right
off
the
top.
E
The
first
five
are
maintenance
related
Parks
positions.
Then
we
move
into
our
Recreation
areas
and
our
community
schools,
which
is
our
before
and
after
school,
and
then
the
administrative
clerk
is
a
position
at
the
Aquatic
Center
and
then
our
Marina
Tech
obviously
is
at
our
Marina.
But
just
to
give
you
guys
some
some
numbers
to
kind
of
look
at
as
we
move
forward
so
moving
into
Aquatics.
As
you
know,
we're
going
to
open
three
new
pools
on
the
end
of
this.
What
will
be
this
fiscal
year
in
fiscal
year
24.
E
E
We
have
to
handle
reservations
and
birthday
parties
and
all
the
excess
things
that
are
going
to
take
place
once
we
add
these
extra
pools
back
also,
we
need
maintenance
workers,
one
of
the
big
questions
that
I
had
when
I
went
and
did
the
focus
groups
with
a
lot
of
the
community,
and
some
of
you
as
well
was
what
are
you
going
to
do
different?
How
are
you
going
to
maintain
these?
E
Well,
we
can't
maintain
them
if
we
don't
have
the
maintenance
staff,
so
we
would
request
to
get
a
full-time
year-round
maintenance
person
to
assist
with
that.
That
means
going
out
and
checking
the
chemicals
daily
and
weekly
and
monthly
in
these
schools
when
the
off
season,
because
we're
only
open
and.
E
I
can
so
we
have
to
the
maintenance
worker
too
great
would
come
in
67,
I'm,
sorry
87.,
so
it's
35,
000.,
35,
115
87
would
be
the
request
for
the
maintenance
worker
too,
and
yes,
and
that
is
correct
to
to
the
finance
manager's
point.
That
is
without
benefits.
That's
just
the
salary
and
then
the
three-part
maintenance
worker
ones.
We
would
ask
for
they
come
in
I
apologize,
I,
don't
seem
to
have
it,
but
they're
not
full-time.
The
full-time
figure
I
had
was
34.093.08,
but
that's
not
that's
full
time.
D
E
A
Well,
I
would
also
like
to
have
an
individual
number.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
we've
gotten
from
other
departments
so
that
we
can
decide.
Do
we
want
to
add
a
part-time
administrative
clerk
for
The
Aquatic
Center,
or
do
we
want
to
add
a
maintenance
worker
for
us?
So
we
need
to
know
what
each
one
of
those
figures
are.
Yes,.
E
Angelica's
all
they're,
all
in
that
first
page,
so
the
administrative
clerk
is,
of
course,
is
part-time
at
1483
an
hour
but
I
know
Miss
Angela,
Miss
Alexander
will
be
able
to
figure
that
moving
forward
Athletics
for
those
of
you
who
know
our
Athletics
division.
In
06
we
had
12
people
who
worked
in
athletics.
E
Today
we
have
two,
as
you
can
imagine,
the
city
has
grown
in
20
years
and
we
now
have
a
lot
more
athletic
programs
here
in
the
city
and
although
we
don't
run
those
directly,
we
still
have
to
coordinate
with
every
League
every
Youth
Organization.
Here
in
the
city
of
Columbus
years
ago,
we
didn't
play
baseball
years
year
round
years
ago
we
didn't
play
softball,
year-round
or
basketball
or
the
sports
that
we
now
do
so
now.
E
It's
even
more
incumbent
upon
our
department
to
help
these
leagues
than
it
was
20
years
ago,
and
so
the
one
position
that
we
would
request
in
athletics
is
a
athletic
program.
Specialist
three
grade
118
full-time
position:
it's
39
558
cents,
when
we're
only
requesting
one
of
those
that
would
give
us
three
people
in
athletics.
These
are
the
very
very
same
people
that
must
work
every
weekend
when
we
host
tournaments
or
events
here
in
Columbus
as
well.
So.
G
I
did
want
to
ask
a
question
about
Aquatics
before
we
moved
on
so
I
know,
there's
Aquatics
and
there's
Aquatic
Center.
The
aquatics
budget
is
already
going
up.
36
percent
259
000
for
this
and
what's
already
included
in
the
budget,
can
you
explain
what's
already
included
in
the
current
budget?
The
increase
sure.
E
So
so
we
are
going
to
have
to
add
on
additional
lifeguards
to
operate
three
more
pools.
On
average,
it
takes
25
to
30
people
to
run
any
given
pool
at
any
given
time.
We'll
have
exact
numbers
once
the
final
design
and
build
out
process
occurs,
so
we'll
know
exactly,
but
we're
looking
at
anywhere
from
25
to
30
individuals.
New
individuals
to
come
on.
E
Those
only
in
this
fiscal
year,
it's
just
the
way
the
budget
operates.
For
us.
We
spend
half
a
year
in
one
fiscal
year
or
operation
season
and
then
the
other
half
in
the
next.
So
we
will
spend
you
know:
April
March,
April,
May,
June
of
this
year's
budget.
This
coming
budget
for
the
aquatics
outdoors
and
then
the
following,
July
and
August
would
come
out
of
the
following
year.
So.
G
E
E
E
You
absolutely,
and
unfortunately,
that's
a
really
hard
number
to
provide
since
we're
still
in
the
build
process.
Right
now,
we
are
hoping
that
it
can
be
a
little
less
we're
hoping
that
new
equipment
will
be
more
efficient
than
it
was
20
years
ago,
and
that's
been
the
big
question
that
we've
had
as
we've
designed
and
worked
on.
E
The
build
process
is
being
way
more
efficient
from
a
operational
standpoint
from
equipment
to
chemicals,
to
supplies
and
then
also
what
would
that
placement
of
Staffing
look
like,
but
the
Staffing
doesn't
typically
change
based
on
the
pool
design.
We
have
because
it's
built
almost
the
same
as
what
we
already
had
and
the
the
numbers
we
gave
are
based
on
what
Staffing
we
had
to
have
previously,
because,
unfortunately,
we
have
to
give
a
number
at
this
point
and
so
we're
doing
the
best
we
could
based
on
the
information
we
have
at
this
point,.
A
E
Did
I
go
off
there
you
go.
Can
you
hear
me
no
ma'am,
we
operate
in
two
fiscal
years,
so
we
have
to
request
the
funding
to
operate
in
each
budgeted
fiscal
year.
So
this
is
the
request
for
this
budgeted
fiscal
year
which
would
be
24..
Then
next
year,
when
I
come
well,
when
I
come
back
again,
we
would
be
asking
for
the
remainder
amount
in
the
in
the
next
year,
because
the
pool
season
splits
between
budgets,
you
only
operate
basically
spring
to
Summer
through
June
30th,
and
then
we
start
over
on
July
1..
E
B
Ma'am
and
what
she's
saying
is
correct
in
terms
of
it
being
split
between
two
fiscal
years
because
of
the
summer
months,
but
it
essentially
equates
to
being
a
whole
year
because,
even
though
it'll
be
July
and
August
of
fy24,
you
still
have
to
then
take
into
consideration.
What
you'll
need
from
the
temporary
staff
I
mean
the
part-time
staff
standpoint
for
May
and
June.
A
E
All
right
so
then
I
moved
to
Community
School
Staffing,
currently
we're
in
14
after
school
programs
across
the
city,
but
we
continue
to
have
schools
who
have
come
to
us
and
would
like
for
us
to
be
able
to
offer
programs
in
their
schools.
We
would
be
requesting
nine
activity,
leaders
and
three
site
supervisors
to
assist
in
that
way.
We're
also
looking
to
possibly
grow
into
one
of
our
rec
centers
for
Hannan
Elementary
School
and
we've
been
in
communication
trying
to
see.
E
If
that
would
be
a
possibility
for
parents
in
that
neighborhood
they
would
be
bussed
with
the
school
district
to
Tillis,
Recreation
Center,
that's
now
open
and
so
we'd
like
the
opportunity
to
offer
those
parents.
Our
goal
is
to
try
to
offer
as
many
parents
and
families
after
school
care
to
have
their
kids
not
be
what's
called
a
latchkey
child,
which
is
a
child,
just
goes
home
to
an
empty
home
every
day,
and
so,
but
to
do
so
we
need
additional
staff
to
be
able
to
add
new
schools.
E
We
have
a
new
school
who
just
approached
us
last
week
again
another
new
school,
that's
interested,
and
we
want
to
be
sure
that
we
can
handle
that.
Why
ask
for
more
staff,
because
we
have
to
manage
ratios
under
our
state
codes
and
operations.
We
have
so
many
children
per
adult
or
poor
staff
person.
We
are
sticklished
for
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
follow
that
and
we
had
students
this
past
year
on
waiting
list
just
because
we
couldn't
accommodate.
E
So
we
are
optimistic
and
hopeful
that
we
can
continue
to
add
more
staff
and
we'll
be
able
to
take
all
the
parents
and
children
that
are
on
waiting
list
off
because
we've
never
in
the
in
all
the
years
of
the
department
having
this
program
never
had
waiting
lists
quite
like
we've
had
this
past
year,
but
it
was
a
staffing
issue
more
so
than
anything
else.
I'm.
I
E
The
financial
aspect
does
we've
paid
no
rent
to
them
whatsoever.
We
use
their
space
for
no
cost,
which
would
be
a
greater
cost
for
us
and
oftentimes.
The
staff
that
we
do
get
are
their
staff,
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
a
co-op,
but
it
is
the
fact
that
they
do
encourage
their
employees,
so
their
teachers,
their
parapros,
their
custodians,
their
staff
to
come
to
work
for
us,
because
it's
in
everyone's
best
interest
because
they
know
the
students
at
their
school.
They
see
them
every
day.
E
L
E
A
sliding
skill
program
we're
the
only
after
school
program
in
the
city
of
Columbus.
That
does
sliding
scale.
So
it's
based
on
a
parent's
income
which
makes
it
a
lot
more
appealing
and
a
lot
easier
for
some
parents
who
can't
afford
some
of
the
more
expensive
programs.
So
it
gives
everybody
kind
of
an
equal
playing
field
to
have
the
opportunity
for
their
child
to
go
into
a
quality
after
school
print.
Care
program
and
I
will
tell
you
our
program.
Bar
None
is
a
very
good
quality
after
school
program
from
stem
and
Engineering.
E
That's
the
focus
and
so
all
of
our
curriculums,
and
we
do
have
curriculums
and
schedules
for
each
calendars
that
they
do.
It's
not
just
to
throw
them
a
ball
and
play
that's
not
what
our
after
school
program
is
about.
They
do
a
lot
of
enrichment,
a
lot
of
Education
a
lot
of
homework
with,
and
the
kids
don't
really
recognize
a
little
bit
of
play
because
we're
more
heavy
on
the
education
steam
component.
E
No,
don't
get
me
wrong,
they're
fun,
but
they're
educational
and
that's
the
focus
of
our
program
more
so
than
it's
not
gone.
Are
the
days
of
kids
just
going
on
the
playground
and
playing?
That's?
Not
our
focus
and
most
of
our
parents
have
raved
about
the
changes
that
we've
made
in
the
last
five
years
to
our
after
school
programs,
because
not
only
in
our
after
school,
but
our
summer
programs
are
very
much
the
same
way:
they're
very
science-based
art,
math
engineering
based
to
try
to
give
kids
a
continued,
even
though
they're
out
of
school
time.
L
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
I
would
I
would
encourage
counselor
crab
Mitch
and
the
other.
My
other
concern
is
that
if
there's
a
way
of
she
used
the
word
Co-op
I
like
that,
but
if
there's
a
way
to
encourage
some
type
of
partnership
with
the
school
district
on
this,
because
we
are
providing
a
service
that
does
benefit
them
and
help
them
it's
really
after
school
daycare
or
care
that
we're
providing,
but
we
do
it
at
a
very
efficient,
effective,
productive
way.
It's
a
great
program,
I
think
I
know
in
the
past.
L
E
Didn't
know
where
we
were
absolutely
and
I
would
remember
Miss
if
I
didn't
mention
this
as
well.
We
also
have
quite
a
number
of
grants
that
we
use
in
this
area
as
well.
We
use
it
to
scholarship
in
some
students
that
otherwise
can
afford
to
come.
We
use
it
to
offset
our
budget
for
operational
expenses,
so
we
do
help
ourselves,
even
if
it's
not
the
parents
necessarily
but
grants
are
never
a
given
from
year
to
year.
E
We
are
in
a
grant
right
now
that
was
a
three-year
program
through
Georgia
recreation
parks,
Association
and
it
came
from
State.
It's
actually
State
education
based
fingers
are
crossed
they're
looking
at
how
to
continue
it.
They
did
a
multi-million
dollar,
give
to
Georgia
recreation
and
parks
for
three
years
as
a
pilot
program,
because
they
recognize
that
what
other
organizations
across
the
state
collectively
see
more
children
than
Parks
and
Recreation.
There
isn't
any
why
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
you
know
Child
Care
Network,
whoever
private
entities.
E
There
is
no
other
organization
that
sees
as
many
children
as
we
all
do,
and
so
it
behooved
them
to
start
looking
at
funding
us
and
that's
what
they
did
and
we
we
had
a
big
ask
and
we
got
the
big
ask
in
the
millions
to
do
this
program
over
three
years
and
we've
started
to
show
the
success
of
how
many
children
we've
retained.
How
many.
E
L
D
E
D
After
before,
after
school
programs,
so
if
their
the
kids
are
military,
I
mean
we've
got
those
grants
as
well,
yeah
and
so
I
mean
I've.
Seen
some
significant
grants
come
through
on
my
agenda:
600
000
for
example,
and
then
of
course,
military
grants
for
military
children
where
I
don't
think
they
really
I
mean
the
grant,
takes
care
scholarships,
the
military,
kids
and
pay
for
them,
and
so
that's
great
and
then
I
I
would
remind
you
that
we
had
some
serious
discussion
a
few
years
back
where.
D
They
have
the
ability
to
pay.
We
had
this
conversation,
if
you
recall,
and
so
schools
where
there
was
a
mixed
group
of
some
the
ability
to
pay
and
and
then
the
scale,
those
are
the
schools
that
we
were
left
to
to
handle
four
before
after
school
program.
You
remember
this
yeah
we've
had
this
discussion,
so
I
want
to
be
clear
that
we
are
we're
filling
in
the
Gap,
if
you
will,
between
those
for
for
those
who,
for
the
Mixed
group
and
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
D
L
L
You
know
those
relationships
to
work,
to
to
build
the
program
even
more
and
and
certainly
the
grants
and
the
Partnerships
and
that
stuff's
going
to
help,
because
that's
just
something
we
couldn't
at
the
time.
We
could
not
100
fully
fund
that
type
program
out
in
the
community
and
balance
it
at
the
same
time.
So
I
applaud
I
applaud
you
in
the
director
for
the
progress
that
we've
made.
Thank
you.
E
G
G
E
Grant
writer
would
be
absolutely
fabulous,
so
this
division
many
years
ago
had
its
own
grant
writer,
and
that
is
all
they
did
was
write
grants
for
this
specific
depart
division
within
our
department.
You
bring
up
a
good
question.
We
used
to
have
seven
full-time
or
seven
people
in
this
division.
Today
we
have
three
of
that.
E
We
lost
a
grant
writer,
and
that
was
the
only
grant
writer
we
had
in
the
department
having
a
grant
Rider
would
be
fabulous
for
us,
because
not
only
could
they
work
on
this
area,
but
there's
many
others
I
had
a
counselor
counselor
that
emailed
me
last
night
and
said:
hey
can
we
apply
for
this
grant
for
this,
and
this,
and
this
and
I'm
like
I,
would
love
to
but
I'm
the
grant
writer
right
now
and
I
myself
and
another
staff
member.
We
write
the
grants
as
time
allows
and.
G
K
K
E
G
E
Again,
as
I
mentioned,
when
I
first
started,
we
have
a
lot
of
needs,
so
we
hate
disorder,
pick
and
choose
on
some
of
them,
but
a
grant
writer
absolutely
has
always
been
on
our
wish
list.
A
grant
writer
would
be
fabulous,
I
mean
we
don't
have
one
as
a
department
and
should
because
so
many
grants
we
could
apply
for.
L
That's
great
Point,
councilor
Begley,
the
Mississippi
manager
I'd
like
to
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
look
into
maybe
creating
a
a
new
Department
to
to
the
point
of
maybe
overall
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
have
that
type
of
service
at
the
hands
of
directors
and
other
employees
that
we
can.
You
know
I'm
thinking
that
it
could
pay
for
itself.
At
the
same
time,
add
benefits
great
benefits
to
our
city.
I,
don't
want
to
miss
out
on
grants
out
there
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
talk
about
recently.
L
D
I
agree
to
your
point
that
and
Council
Begley
that
it
would
be
beneficial.
I
would
not
recommend
a
grant
writer
in
every
single
Department,
obviously,
because
you
could
have
one
in
public
works
and
one
at
parks
and
rec
and
one
at
police
and
fire.
But
a
small
grant
writing
division,
a
section
where
that's
all
they
do
is
concentrate
look
for
apply
for,
go
after
grants
and
and
and
they're
doing
it
for
parks
and
rec
and
for
departments
throughout
the
government
to
include
elected
officials.
D
I
think,
certainly
that
would
be
beneficial
because
I
mean
just
think
about
over
the
last
since
covet
the
grant
funding
that
we
have
received.
You
know
80
million
alone
in
ARP,
and
then
cares
act
before
that.
You
know
10
million
and
the
list
goes
on
and
and
we
are
collecting,
we
are
actually
receiving
I-
think
we're
doing
well
and
I
think
it
came
out
in
our
external
audit
I
think
more
than
eight
million
dollars.
D
E
Staffing
needs
like
Oliver
Marina.
We
reopened
the
marina
and
fiscal
year
09.
At
that
time
we
have
four
employees.
We
still
have
four
employees.
We
desperately
need
a
full-time
person
added
to
that
staff
to
help
cover
the
hours.
We
currently
only
have
one
full-time
staff
person
there
and
you're
gonna
hear
a
trend
very
shortly
about
the
full-time
status
in
our
department,
but
we
desperately
need
another
Marina
Tech
or
a
marina
Tech,
that's
full-time
there
at
their
location
and
a
marina
Tech
is
36.
E
Yes,
ma'am
thirty,
six
thousand
five
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
and
51
cents,
okay,
our
model
Rainey
House
Museum.
Thank
you
to
those
of
you
who
are
able
to
join
us
during
Georgia
cities
week.
You
can
see
how
popular
the
mulraney
house
is
now,
especially
now
that
we've
added
her
Grammy
to
the
to
the
to
the
house,
and
so
we
would
request
one
additional
Museum
support
specialist
part-time.
We
currently
have
one
person,
that's
part-time.
E
They
handle
all
tours
operating
hours,
upkeep
of
the
facility,
and
so
we
would
like
to
request
one
additional
to
be
able
to
help
service
the
tours
we
get
a
lot
of
groups
that
call
this
visitors
bureau
brings
to
us.
We've
got
a
lot
of
school
groups
both
locally
and
away
from
here.
We've
had
kids
come
from
Atlanta
and
other
areas
to
come
visit
the
house,
and
so
it's
really
a
struggle
with
only
one
part-time
person.
So
it
would
be
great
if
we
had
the
opportunity
to
add
another
part-time
Museum
support
did.
A
E
E
Now
we
move
to
park
services
park
services
over
time
has
lost
one
of
the
larger
amounts
of
Staffing
and
fiscal
year.
05
we
had
92
Park
Service
employees.
Today
we
have
68.,
as
you
can
imagine,
we
have
not
taken
on
less
space
to
maintain.
We
have
taken
on
more
space
to
maintain
in
that
number
of
years,
yet
we
have
24
less
employees
to
do
what
we
were
doing
20
years
ago.
So
these
are
going
to
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
these
as
quickly
as
possible.
E
I
won't
go
into
the
details
on
the
numbers
Madam
chair,
since
the
the
finance
manager
is
pulling
those
numbers
and
I
do
apologize,
but
I
put
together
the
program
yesterday.
I
mean
my
presentation
yesterday,
unfortunately,
so
in
essence
of
time,
I
did
leave
that
out,
but
I
wanted
you
all
to
know
what
we
currently
have
versus
what
we're
asking
for.
So
you
could
kind
of
get
to
see.
You're
also
going
to
see
in
many
of
our
areas.
We
no
longer
have
what's
called
a
dedicated
crew
a
lot
of
times.
E
You
all
ask
me,
questions
about
our
parks
and
ask
you
know
what's
going
on
or
why
is
it
not
cut?
We
no
longer
have
a
lot
of
dedicated
Crews,
dedicated
Crews
or
the
people
that
are
designed
just
to
work
that
Park
so
starting
with
Lake
Bottom
Park
it
has
a
dedicated
crew.
Has
one
supervisor
and
three
part-time
I
mean
three-part
maintenance
workers,
we're
asking
for
three
more
maintenance
workers?
If
you
go
to
Lake
Bottom
Park
and
look
at
Lake
Bottom
Park,
we
can
barely
get
what
we
have
to
do
and
it's
not
done
quickly.
E
We
get
a
lot
of
complaints
from
the
league
and
Peach
League.
That's
there
and
some
of
the
other
users,
because
we
just
can't
keep
up
the
park
is
so
large
and
the
capacity
for
users
has
immensely
increased
over
the
years
that,
if
you
will,
is
our
Central
Park
of
Columbus
Georgia
and
probably
gets
the
highest
volume
of
use
per
capita
across
the
city.
David
Park
is
another
park
that
has
has
dedicated
crew.
It
has
the
same
current
Staffing.
It
has
one
supervisor
and
three-part
maintenance
worker
ones.
E
We're
asking
for
three
additional
Park
maintenance
worker.
One
positions
to
be
added
motor
equipment
operators,
so,
in
our
department,
motor
equipment
operators
are
those
that
run
bush
hogs
and
the
tractors
and
the
heavier
equipment,
because
we
can't
go
to
Heath
park
or
Flat
Rock,
Park,
obviously,
and
cut
with
a
regular
lawnmower.
Those
parks
are
too
large
capacity
wise.
We
don't
have
the
equipment
and
the
smaller
equipment
to
do
so,
so
it
has
to
be
done
with
larger
equipment.
This
is
also
our
area
that
that
has
our
trash
truck
driver.
E
So
for
those
who
are
not
aware,
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
we
manage
all
of
our
own
trash.
That
is
not
managed
by
Public
Works,
which
means
that
every
Park
every
parks,
recreation
facility,
Rec,
Center,
Senior,
Center,
the
marina
Cooper
Creek,
you
name
it
every
ball
field.
Anything
that
falls
under
Parks
and
Recreation
is
the
responsibility
of
Parks
and
Recreation
for
trash.
We
get
deemed
a
lot,
often
about
parks
and
trash.
We
have
one
trash
truck
driver.
We
have
one
trash
truck
and
that's
our
Meo
three
position,
so
we
would
be
requesting
additional
Meo
operators.
E
We
would
request
three
meo3s.
Those
are
CDL
positions.
That's
what
we're
asking
an
additional
trash
truck
from
our
trash
truck
driver
from
to
be
able
to
help
most
of
our
year
because
of
the
volume
of
trash,
because
the
leagues
start
playing
early
and
they
play
all
year,
except
for
a
very
small
portion.
We
run
our
trash
truck
seven
days
a
week.
We
have
to
I.
I
E
Separate
it's
just
gotten
to
the
point.
Fortunately,
for
us
for
a
very
very
long
time
we
had
one
employee
who
did
not
mind
working
seven
days
a
week,
I
mean
literally,
he
worked
seven
days
a
week.
He
very
rarely
took
a
day
off.
He
is
no
longer
with
us.
It
has
made
the
burden
even
harder
to
find
a
trash
truck
driver.
E
So
right
now
we
platoon
two
individuals
and
they're
not
supposed
to
be
the
trash
truck
drivers,
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
other
duties
and
responsibilities,
but
we
don't
have
a
choice
because
we
just
don't
have
enough
staff.
So
that's
why
we're
requesting
some
additional
assistance,
so
we
can
cover,
because,
if
they're
running
a
trash
truck,
that
means
they're
not
cutting
grass
at
in
a
big
park
or
an
area
that
we
need
them
to
be
doing
other
labor
and
running
other
equipment.
So.
E
E
D
So
there
is
some
coordination
there.
It's
just
that
drill
is
not
responsible
for
collecting
trash
in
parks
and
keeping
them
clean.
They
need
to
be
talking
to
Holly
and
and
when
we
see
those
parts
in
that
shape,
we
don't
where
the
garbage
is
not
collected.
Overflowing
I,
don't
call
drill,
I
call
Holly,
so
they
do
coordinate
in
that
it's
paid
for
over
here,
but
they
work
for
her.
I
Okay,
in
their
a
possibility
that
some
of
the
the
park
maintenance
workers
I
mean,
doesn't
Public
Works,
have
maintenance
workers
that
work
on
the
right
of
ways
and
and
they
drive
mowers
and
they
take
care
of
that
stuff.
So
is
there
a
possibility
that
they
could
work
together
or
or
are
they
all
just
bombarded
trying
to.
D
Keep
they
are
bombarded.
You
know,
I
was
talking
to
someone
this
morning
and
they
said
I
just
saw
a
truck
with
mowers
on
it.
They
need
to
be
over
here
mowing
the
grass
the
right
away
on
where
I
live,
and
so
you
know,
you've
heard
Deputy
city
manager
Goodwin.
When
you
see
the
overgrown
right-of-way
something
I
don't
like
to
hear,
but
they'll
tell
you
what
we're
only
able
to
get
around
three
times
a
year
in
every
area
and
mow
the
right
away
in
your
area
three
times
a
year.
D
K
E
E
Cleaning
crews
and
the
City
of
Columbus,
we
cleaned
68
bathrooms
every
day
and
most
of
the
year
we
cleaned
them
seven
days
a
week.
Currently
we
have
seven
people
to
clean
68
bathrooms
every
day
across
the
city
that
could
be
from
going
from
the
north
in
the
town
to
the
south
end
of
town
and
all
over.
We
have
a
total
of
seven
people.
E
We
would
request
three
additional
Park
maintenance
worker
positions
to
build
another
crew,
which
is
what
we
did
have
years
ago
to
assist,
so
we
could
have
three
crews
instead
of
two
to
be
able
to
clean
bathrooms
in
the
city
of
Columbus,
Woodruff,
Farms
soccer.
You
can
see
here
what
we
currently
have.
We
are
requesting
two
Park
maintenance
worker
ones
to
Aid,
in
that
this
complex
has
approximately
2
000
children
that
play
every
day
year
round,
except
for
a
very
small
portion
of
the
summer.
E
We
need
additional
staff
to
help
maintain
it
pick
up
trash
cut
line.
So
there's
the
need
for
Woodruff
Farm
soccer
South
Commons.
As
you
know,
I've
discussed
and
come
before.
Council
many
times
told
you.
We
operate
Turner
tournaments,
probably
about
90
percent
of
the
year.
Every
weekend
our
staff
never
get
a
break.
They
work
many
parts
of
the
year,
seven
days
on
with
very
little
time
or
no
time
off
at
all.
E
We
would
be
requesting
four
more
Park
maintenance
workers,
because
they
maintain
all
of
South
Commons,
the
AJ
McClung,
all
the
grass
inside
all
the
ball
fields
that
have
to
be
lined
dragged
cut,
you
name
it
and
I
only
have
five
people
to
do
that.
Moving
crew
anytime,
you
have
a
special
event
here
in
the
city
and
you
want
a
stage
set
up
or
something
special
done,
or
anything
in
general
that
some
of
our
other
staff,
Carpenters
or
people
can't
get
to
these
are
the
guys
that
do
it.
E
Today
we
have
one
full-time
staff
and
we're
very
lucky.
If
we
have
four
many
have
only
two
or
three
positions
for
part-time
staff,
so
we
would
be
asking
to
refund
or
re-add
those
positions
that
we
originally
had
in
the
department
and
the
areas
I've
listed
here
where
we
would
request
those
so
you'll
see
a
mix
of
recreation,
seniors
and
Albert
David
Pottery
Studio.
We
are
trying
to
get
us
back
to
where
the
department
was
so
that
we
can
offer
for
the
community
what
they
need.
So.
A
E
We
need
46
part-time
people
to
be
added
back
to
us
and
I'm,
going
to
explain
why
in
the
next
slide,
I
believe,
but
we've
lost
29,
but
in
that
time
we
lost
29.
We
also
added
boxwood
Recreation
Center.
We
also
added
Tillis
recreation
center
and
we
are
looking
to
to
make
some
additional
changes
down
the
road
that
would
require
us
to
add
back
the
staff
to
operate
hours
needed
for
the
community.
E
The
additional
staff
would
allow
us
to
take
our
facilities
back
so
when
they
were
built
in
99
and
2000,
meaning
the
super
centers.
When
we
were
able
to
have
longer
hours,
we
were
able
to
accommodate
the
seniors.
In
the
morning.
At
these
rec
centers,
we
were
able
to
keep
the
kids
off
the
street
in
the
evenings
in
the
afternoons,
the
weekends
and
give
people
a
place
to
go.
Our
current
hours
are
11
through
7
11
to
7
Monday
through
Friday
and
on
Saturdays
two
to
six
and
we're
closed
on
Sunday.
E
That
is
not
what
we
used
to
be.
We
used
to
be
seven
days
a
week
and
I
would
recommend
that
we
go
back
to
that
in
an
effort
to
give
people
a
place
to
go,
give
people
opportunities
and
programs
and
things
to
do
and
the
only
way
we
can
do
it
is
with
the
staff
to
manage
the
hours
taking
us
to
Monday
through
Friday
from
9
A.M
to
9pm
Saturday
from
12
p.m.
Yes,
it
does
say
12
a.m,
but
that
will
give
us
an
opportunity
to
get
people
off
the
street.
They
can
come
play.
E
Basketball
do
things
in
these
gyms,
instead
of
being
other
places,
which
is
what
we
used
to
do.
We
weren't
open
till
12
a.m,
because
things
were
a
little
different
20
years
ago,
but
it's
probably
needed
and
in
a
congress
station
I
recently
had
with
some
of
the
other
local
agencies,
the
Y
Boys
and
Girls
Club
Girls
Inc.
We
see
the
need
to
give
people
a
place
to
go
at
least
one
day
a
week
on
the
weekends
to
get
people
off
the
street
and
then
on
Sundays.
E
It
would
be
nice
to
have
a
place
for
families
or
kids
in
general
to
go
and
have
something
to
do,
and
so
that's
why
they
ask
for
the
staff,
but
we
can't
do
it
without
the
staff,
but
we
can
bring
back
your
hours.
We
can
give
the
community
what
they
continue
to
ask
for,
but
we've
got
to
have
staff
Capital
needs
are
pretty
self-sufficient,
I
mean
self-explanatory
here,
and
they
go
on
and
on
many
of
these,
if
not.
E
E
Equipment
mowers,
it's
a
equipment
and
mowers
for
the
most
part,
but
as
we
go
further
through
again,
most
of
its
equipment,
mowers,
Vehicles
equipment
and
Facilities,
but
I
do
want
to
draw
attention
to
the
very
last
page,
because
I
know
that
time
is
short.
A
lot
of
people
have
asked
us
about
scoreboards,
so
we
are
asking
for
scoreboards
that
need
to
be
replaced.
E
We
are
asking
for
playgrounds,
we
have
not
received
any
Capital
money,
at
least
in
the
last
10
years,
maybe
longer
to
replace
playgrounds,
and
we
have
playgrounds
that
can
no
longer
be
replaced.
If
you
go
out
and
look
at
playgrounds
that
have
been
replaced,
they
have
been
used,
funding
has
been
spent
through,
Community
reinvestment,
I
have
worked,
and
the
department
has
worked
very
closely
with
them
since
2015
to
replace
playgrounds.
However,
the
only
way
we
can
use
the
funding
is,
they
must
fall
within
a
specific
census
track.
E
Many
of
our
playgrounds
left
that
have
not
been
replaced.
Do
not
fall
in
those
areas.
Shirley
Winston
Park,
Lake,
Bottom
Park,
just
to
mention
a
couple:
do
not
fall
in
that
area,
so
we're
in
a
requesting
playground
funding
that
we
have
not
received
in
a
very
very
long
time
to
make
those
Replacements
and
I
think
that
was
those
were
the
highlights
for
the
capital
and
any
additional
questions.
C
Usually
a
good
thing
now:
I
went
to
a
meeting
just
last
night
and
it
was
a
public
safety
meeting
and
one
of
the
primary
topics
was
Recreation
opportunities,
opportunities
to
get
the
kids
off
the
streets
and
doing
something
less
destructive
and
I
explained
to
them
that
our
biggest
challenge
is
Personnel.
If
we
could
find
Personnel
to
go
to
work,
we
could
open
some
more
of
these
places
up
and
also
going
to
make
a
pitch
for
the
therapeutic
center.
C
We
have
a
lot
of
adults
in
our
community
that
are
disabled
and
once
they
get
out
of
school
age,
the
school
turns
them
loose,
there's
no
place
for
them
to
go,
and
we
have
been
without
a
Therapeutics
manager,
I
think
for
quite
some
time
and
it's
or
at
least
greatly
scaled
down.
So
so,
when
we
think
of
parks
and
rec,
it
covers
such
a
broad
spectrum
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
to
kind
of
add
some
support
for
some
of
the
gaps
in
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
for
the
public.
A
I
think
what
we,
unless
there
are
other
questions,
I,
think
what
we
will
do.
Ms
Browder
is
to
ask
the
finance
director
to
get
us
a
list
most
of
the.
We
only
got
three
figures
of
positions
that
you
need,
and
there
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
on
this
list,
and
so
before
we
go
to
whether
or
not
we
will
add
any
of
this
Miss
Alexander.
Can
we
get
that
this
morning.
A
A
A
L
Yeah
I
know
I'm,
not
a
budget
chair
I'm
just
going
to
take
this
opportunity
while
I
have
it
to
mention
a
couple
needs
that
citizens
have
requested
and
then
I
want
to
add
a
matter
to
the
list
that
we've
been
talking
about,
but
director
Browder.
Could
you
and
I
don't
know?
Maybe
it's
a
funding
need
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I
know
that
the
pump
at
Lake
Oliver
Marina
has
been
out
for
a
while
and
we're
coming
into
that
season,
where
the
Marine
is
being
used.
E
L
E
L
Okay
and
then
the
second
request
is,
would
you
have
somebody
I
had
some
calls
from
Pioneer
Little
League
the
baseball
team
there
about
needs
of
practicing
it's
a
local
team.
They
have
requested
about
facilities.
It
seems
like,
from
their
perspective,
outside
entities
are
coming
into
our
community
and
utilizing
our
fields
and
they're
local.
So
there's
a
concern
about
use
of
the
fields.
Could
you
look
into
that?
We.
E
L
E
L
That,
okay,
thank
you.
Yes,
sir
and
I
would
like
amount
of
budget
chair
to
add
one
day
of
Reserve,
which
is
600.
Six
hundred
thousand
I've
talked
to
the
director
about
this
and
I
think
I've
talked
many
times
at
Council.
We've
all
talked
about
the
need
to
take
care
of
our
facilities,
the
maintenance
on
the
fields
and
and
at
somewhat
I,
think
it'd,
be
managed.
L
Earmark
line
item
category
within
the
department
that
if
there
are
volunteers
out
there
that
are
fixing
the
fields
utilizing
doing
services
that
you
know
essentially
are
helping
us
and
covering
where
we,
the
city,
just,
cannot
meet
those
needs
randomly
all
over
the
city,
whether
it's
tennis,
baseball,
softball
football
other
needs
that
are
out
there,
whether
it's
Clay,
whether
it's
grass,
those
kind
of
things
you
know-
needs
that
are
on
the
field
itself.
I'm,
not
talking
about
infrastructure
outside
what
I
would
call
outside
the
lines.
A
F
Good
morning,
you're
good,
so
my
request
today
is
basically
is
a
budget
neutral,
add
and
delete
request
in
the
proposed
budget
that
had
been
received.
There
was
basically
50
55
300
that
had
been
approved
for
or
not
approved,
but
you
know
in
the
budget
to
to
go
before
the
council
for
approval,
and
it
is
my
request
to
I'm.
F
A
B
Madam
buddy
chair,
where
he
is
requesting,
is
basically
to
reallocate
about
58
000
from
operating
to
person
and
58
000
from
operating
and
removal
of
a
maintenance,
a
part-time
maintenance,
intern
position
that
money
to
a
full-time
marketing
position.
So
it
is
a
budget
neutral
request
and
we
can
work
with
the
golf
Authority
and
director
Jim
art
in
terms
of
the
redistribution.
A
N
N
N
All
right
back
to
that
that
very
first
letter
that
you
have
there's
just
an
introductory
as
to
what's
required
of
our
office
and
Council.
What
I
want
to
share
with
you
is
actually
that
next
sheet
James,
please
which
says
Manpower
versus
additional
revenue,
and
hopefully,
if
you
can
just
follow
along
with
me
on
this
one,
my
presentation
is
very
short
and
I
can
go
sit
down
and
we
won't
have
to
go
through
the
rest
of
the
pages.
N
It
amounts
to
184
410
dollars,
which
includes
both
salaries
and
benefits.
However,
I
have
found
you
some
additional
revenues
that
are
not
in
your
budget
currently,
and
it
comes
as
a
result
of
the
tavit
revenues
that
we
collect
the
rate
previously
for
the
past,
roughly
four
or
five
years
has
been
6.6
percent.
It
is
going
up
July,
1
to
7
percent.
Those
additional
dollars
are
going
to
amount
to
an
additional
amount
of
659
000
693
dollars
that
you
will
have.
N
Additionally,
to
spend
that
you
don't
currently
have
in
your
budget
right
now,
in
addition
to
that,
our
office
by
law
under
house
bill
386
receives
an
administrative
fee
of
one
percent
of
that
amount.
So
you
get
an
additional
6894
dollars,
it's
up
to
one
percent
I'm,
sorry,
and
so
that
total
amount
that
you'll
receive
is
the
659
693.
N
We
only
need
184
410,
the
remainder
of
it,
which
is
approximately
475
thousand
dollars.
You
have
available
to
you
to
spend
as
you
want
as
you
go
through
this
Edition
and
deletion
list,
and
you
have
to
make
those
decisions
as
to
where
you're
going
to
get
the
money
to
carry
on
the
additional
functions.
Those
funds
are
available
to
you.
N
Okay,
so
that's
all
of
my
good
news
for
you,
then,
the
next
page
there
talks
about
the
Manpower
of
the
office
and
comparing
it
to
other
counties
of
like
population
size
as
we
are
that
do
the
same
kind
of
work
that
we
do
and
we're
using
Richmond,
Chatham
and
Macon.
Bib
Richmond
is
a
Consolidated
Government.
It
has
a
population
now
based
on
the
2020
census
of
202
000,
compared
to
our
207
000..
Naturally,
Chatham
is
larger.
It
is
at
296,
000.
bacon.
Bib
consolidated
government
is
at
157
000..
N
We
have
a
very
large
military
Presence
at
Fort
Moore
and
there's
13
000
more
people
that
out
there
that
we're
serviced
what's
important
to
realize
about
the
military
population
is
that
the
county
doesn't
receive
any
funds
for
Motor
Vehicle
registrations
that
we
have
to
handle
for
the
military
also.
But
we
do
have
to
provide
that
service
to
them
and
we're
proud
to
do
that.
But
that
is
additional.
N
Service
that
has
to
be
supplied
to
them.
When
we
look
at
the
head,
counts.
I've
been
here
20
plus
years,
my
head
count,
number
hasn't,
changed,
we've
moved
people
and
we've
tried
to
cover
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
that
skill
set
that
we
need,
but
we're
still
at
30.
Richmond
has
same
population
size,
they
have
50
people.
N
We
only
have
30.,
that's
20.,
you
know
if
you've
got
four
or
five
difference
in
people
I'm,
okay
with
that,
but
when
they've
got
almost
twice
as
many
people
as
we
have
that's
pretty
significant
and
it's
affecting
us,
we've
been
able
to
function
at
a
minimum
capacity
up
until
this
point.
But
now
it's
impacting
what's
happening
in
our
office.
Chatham
has
46
employees
more
than
we
have,
and
even
Macon
that
is
two-thirds.
The
size
of
Columbus
has
12
employees
more
than
we
do
so
what's
the
impact
of
not
having
sufficient
funds.
N
If
you
go
over
to
that
next
page,
it's
going
to
limit
our
ability
to
perform
statutory
functions,
our
duties,
our
internal
controls,
are
weakened.
There's
delays
in
reporting
to
the
county,
schools,
State
and
Auditors,
and
this
is
already
happening.
All
of
these
things
are
building
and
collection
delays.
Supervision
is
limited
because
we're
moving
supervisors
to
handle
the
front
line,
jobs
that
are
taking
place
and
our
first
line
of
response
in
the
office
is
to
serve
those
citizens
that
are
directly
in
front
of
us
and
that
pulls
supervision
away
from
doing
training.
N
It
pulls
them
away
from
handling
more
difficult
situations
and
trying
to
meet
deadlines
and
doing
analytical
work,
you're
going
to
have
fewer
tax
sales,
and
you
may
have
no
tax
sales.
If
we
don't
have
any
tax
sales,
I
mean
you
won't
get
any
additional
cash
coming
in.
It
can
affect
your
cash
flow.
As
you
know,
it
can
affect
your
bond
ratings
and
they
could
be
jeopardized.
It
doesn't
mean
that
you
won't
get
the
money.
It
just
means
you
won't
get
it
now.
Personal
property
tax
collections
will
be
delayed.
N
G
N
So
if
somebody's
got
to
delinquent
taxes
out
there
that
are
owed,
let's
say
they're
thirty
thousand
dollars
versus
someone
who
has
owes
a
thousand
dollars
we're
going
to
go
after
first,
the
one
that
has
the
thirty
thousand
dollars
that's
owed
back
to
us
the
amount
of
time
that
it
takes
to
do.
That
is
the
same
regardless.
If
it's
one
thousand
dollars-
or
it
happens,
to
be
the
thirty
thousand
dollars.
G
N
Just
a
portion
of
an
end
percentage,
you're
talking
about
is
difficult
to
say,
because
I've
got
to
look
at
the
numbers
will
give
you
a
different
number
than
the
dollar
value
will
give
you
it
will.
I
can
tell
you
it
will
not
go
away
entirely.
Okay,
what
it
will
do
if
you're
looking
in
terms
of
the
effect
on
it
having
that
person
on
board
having
those
individuals
on
board,
because
I
need
I
need
help
with
technology.
N
Another
part
of
this
is
is
World,
which
is
run
by
Tyler
Technologies
delinquent
taxes
pulls
off
of
that
system.
If
that
system
is
we
can't
get
financial
reporting
out
of
it?
Okay,
we
don't
have,
and
what
that
means
for
us
is
that
we
don't
have
programmers
on
board.
It
takes
us
right
now
in
order
to
get
data
from
Tyler
Technologies,
who
supports
the
tax
assessors
and
The
Tax
Commissioner's
Office.
N
If
we
want
reports
out
of
them,
we
have
to
put
in
a
request
to
Tyler
Technologies,
to
generate
those
reports
for
us,
a
report
coming
from
them
because
they're,
a
National,
Organization
computer
company,
is
put
into
a
bank
of
or
a
population
of
requests
for
the
whole
country
wherever
they're
located.
It's
not
like
they're
located
here,
and
they
can
just
move
us
up
the
list.
It
takes
us
three
weeks
up
to
three
weeks
to
get
them
to
answer
a
question
or
develop
a
report
for
us
that
we
can
utilize
delinquent
taxes
is
tied
into
that.
N
It's
been
I,
guess
over
three
weeks
now
that
we're
waiting
for
a
report
to
come
back
if
I've
got
people
that
I
can
dedicate
and
have
that
knowledge,
and
it's
got
to
be
more
than
one
okay,
because
as
soon
as
I
train
them
they're
gone
okay,
we
have
a
high
turnover
rate.
So
you
don't
have
anyone
else
in
that
organization
that
can
backfill
right
away
and
help.
So
we've
got
a
two-fold
three-fold
problem,
that's
happening
here
with
us.
N
We
don't
have
that
that
expertise
and
yes,
you
are
right
that
having
these
individuals
will
be
there
and
it
will
affect
delinquent
taxes
but
I'm
at
the
point.
Now,
with
what
limited
knowledge
we
have,
we
can't
even
get
our
response
back.
We've
we've
gone
out
to
the
city's
I.T
Department.
Please
use
your
connections
that
you
have
with
Tyler
to
see.
If
you
can't
help
us
out,
but
not
having
that
technology,
we
can't
run
reports.
I
can't
update
I
can't
guarantee
that
the
numbers
are
correct,
because
I
can't
pull
that
data
out.
N
It's
sitting
there,
it's
generating
the
bills.
We
can
tell
you
what
your
collections
is,
but
we
can't
do
analytical
work
period,
so
I
need
a
twofold
I
need
that
technology
I
need
that
technology
before
when
we
operated
when
I
first
came
on
board.
Oasis
was
the
governing
software
for
our
operation
and
handled
collections.
It
handled
buildings.
It
did
our
paperwork,
our
our
analytical
reporting
that
we
got
out,
but
it
was
generated
through
Oasis.
We
don't
have
that
anymore
and
Oasis
was
run
by
the
I.T
Department
of
the
city.
N
G
N
N
N
N
Let's
see,
what
do
we
want
I'm
still
on
the
impact
of
not
having
sufficient
funds
available
and
we've
talked
about
technology
and
we've
talked
about
is
world
and
Tyler
which
tied
right
into
that
another
area
that
you
want
to
consider
and
you're
thinking
about?
Well,
how
are
you
going
to
Warrant
whether
or
not
this
is
feasible
or
not?
We
do
Homestead
audits.
N
And
puts
it
back
on
the
books
at
a
higher
value
than
it
was
previously
because
take,
for
example,
the
freeze
when
the
freeze,
as
you
know,
your
property
values
are
frozen
in
at
that
value,
when
we
can
go
in
and
do
Homestead
audits
we're
actually
taking
them
out
of
the
freeze
and
putting
the
properties
back
on
your
digest
for
taxable
values,
we
calculate
that
for
everyone
that
we
can
take
off
and
put
back
on
the
books.
It
brings
you
an
additional
sixteen
hundred
dollars
in
taxes.
N
N
It
took
us
from
March
until
we
just
completed
up
all
of
the
paperwork,
to
issue
the
refunds
and
take
care
of
the
waivers
for
them
every
bit
of
90
days
to
do
that.
That
pulled
us
from
everything
else
to
try
to
do
that.
But
these
are
things
that
you
don't
you
don't
see
that
goes
on
behind
the
scene.
The
last
thing
is
succession
planning.
N
We
have
no
succession
planning
we're
just
trying
to
exist
from
day
to
day.
Right
now,
in
one
period
of
I,
think
was
less
than
about
a
year
or
two.
We
lost
three
accountants.
Okay,
I
had
to
start
all
over
again.
Okay,
that
is
difficult
when
you're
talking
about
handling
the
kind
of
money
that
we
handle,
okay,
I,
would
be
concerned.
N
That
was
beyond
what
we
had
before
that
we
never
got
any
additional
help
for
we
have
just
beyond
the
property
taxes
which
we
collect
for
you
now
we
collect
for
2024
is
28.9
percent
of
your
revenues
for
the
budget
that
you're
looking
at.
We
collect
that
we're
bringing
that
in
with
the
minimum
number
of
people
that
we
have
in
comparison
to
the
other
counties.
N
The
additional
revenues
that
we
brought
in
looking
at
FY
222
numbers,
because
the
23
numbers
are
not
available
the
tag
office
in
itself
because
of
its
penalties
and
Labs
fees,
was
511,
000.,
the
property
tax
office,
bringing
in
the
same
kind
of
fees
the
738
000.
commissions.
We
get
2.5
percent
of
the
commission
to
collect
the
taxes
for
the
school
district
that
doesn't
come
back
to
us.
That's
almost
three
million
dollars
this
year
we
also
get
beard
commissions
and
a
small
bit
coming
in
from
the
state.
N
Those
total
Commissions
in
itself
are
three
million
dollars
in
2022.
These
were
the
numbers
from
then
our
budget
in
2022
was
a
million
seven,
so
I
mean
in
just
those
revenues
that
we're
bringing
in
beyond
the
property
tax
collection,
and
especially
the
commissions
itself
that
are
supposed
to
be
geared
towards
the
collection
of
the
taxes
for
the
school
district
would
more
than
cover
our
expenses
for
operating
the
office
and
the
split
between
what
we
collect
for
the
school
district
and
the
city
is
almost
50
50..
Thank
you.
N
N
Also,
our
budget
does
not
account
for
the
fact
that
we
get
a
dollar
on
postage.
We
get
Delinquent
Tax,
Administration
fees,
Five
Faith
fees
and
advertising
revenues.
These
are
all
revenues
that
come
back
into
the
City
and
because
the
way
the
budget
is
set
up,
it
doesn't
offset
our
budget.
Okay,
we
spend
these
expenses,
but
we
get
them
back.
Okay,
the
taxpayers
pay
on
the
motor
vehicle
registration,
a
dollar
on
postage,
okay
towards
us,
sending
their
registrations
back
to
them.
N
Well,
it
shows
up
as
an
expense
on
us,
but
it
doesn't
show
up
as
here's
a
dollar
coming
in,
for
what
we're
having
to
spend,
send
it
back
out
things
like
phifa
and
advertising
costs
directly
related
to
Delinquent
Tax
cells.
When
we
bring
that
in
it
offsets
and
it's
collected
at
the
time,
we
do
attack
cell
that
doesn't
show
up,
but
the
expenses
show
up
law
specifically
addressing
the
revenues
to
compensate
us
for
the
work,
and
it's
specifically
written
that
way
in
the
law
itself
is
there's
commissions
there.
N
Insurance
lab
speeds
that
come
through
63
000.
Administrative
fees
for
tablet
is
a
hundred
and
nineteen
thousand,
and
that
was
for
FY
22.,
so
those
are
sources
of
revenues
that
we've
been
generated,
generating
Beyond
property
tax
and
motor
vehicle
collections
every
single
year
that
has
been
utilized
elsewhere
and
I
realize
that
we
don't
have
that
discretion
to
demand
that
those
things
come
to
us,
but
the
law
does
say
that
we
should
be
given
the
funds
in
order
to
carry
out
our
our
duties
as
constitutional
officers
and
I've.
N
Given
you
many
of
those
instances,
the
next
sheet
there
shows,
where
our
other
budgetary
expenditures
go
to
so
I,
don't
really
have
anywhere
that
I
can
take
that
money
elsewhere
and
give
it
to
you.
It's
all
listed
there
and
they're
all
by
laws.
Every
single
one
of
them
are
things
that
we
have
to
do
by
law.
So
I've,
given
you
no
I,
don't
have
anything
to
delete
I
have
given
you
additional
revenues,
more
revenues
than
I
really
need
for
those
three
positions
that
are
being
requested
and
I've.
N
Given
you
beyond
that
I've,
given
you
almost
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
you
can
use
elsewhere,
we
are
in
the
desperately
I.
Never
come
to
you
when
I
didn't
really
need
something
and
I
could
justify
what
we
need
and
that's
what
we're
asking
for
today.
We
need
those
analytical
individuals,
so
we
don't
need
just
Manpower
I,
don't
need
heads.
I
I
need
people
with
computer
skills
and
they're
analytical
to
do
my
job
and
that's
what
I'm
requesting
okay.
A
L
L
So
we
added
to
the
salaries.
Okay,
that's
my
question
for
you
Madam
Finance
director,
my
city
manager,
either.
One
of
you
can
answer
this,
but
just
this
is
an
in
general
question:
okay
and
I'm
just
going
to
use
this
opportunity
to
bring
it
out,
but
you
know
last
week
or
we
had
a
lot
of
requests
for
new
Personnel
new
positions
with
salary
amounts
that
come
to
us
they're
on
the
ad
list.
L
L
I
mean
I'm,
trying
to
ask
myself
how
do
these
requests
and
the
amount
that's
being
put
before
us
and
funding
how
it
equates
or
how
it
relates
to
the
study
and
are
they
in
the
appropriate
places
based
on
that
study,
because
I
I
don't
want
I,
I
I
I
don't
want
to
get
caught
in
the
end
around
where
you
know
all
of
a
sudden
we've
bypassed
what
all
this
work
that's
been
done
throughout
the
government.
So
that's
my
question
in
General
on
all
these
salaries
and
needs
new
ones.
Of
course,
I
know.
L
D
Well,
I
I'm,
not
sure,
but
let
me
just
say
this:
that
the
pay
classification
study
looked
at
internal
external
equity
and
to
make
sure
that
we
are
aware
we
should
be
based
on
positions
internally
externally
in
other
communities
of
similar
size.
I
think
what
we
are
getting,
what
I'm
hearing
what
I
heard
last
week
and
what
I'm
hearing
today
they're
asking
not
about
pay
they're
asking
for
new
positions,
correct,
and
so
our
study
did
not
look
determine
whether
commissioner
Huff
needs
four
more
positions
or
clerk.
D
Forte
needs
three
more
positions
that
they
are
determining
that
they
need
these
additional
positions.
Based
on
our
current
situation
with
in
clerk's
office,
the
number
of
cases
going
through
and
additional
arrests
being
met,
just
the
caseload
and
judges
are
asking
for.
One
judge
asks
for
an
additional
judge
approach
him
based
on
the
number
of
cases.
So
what
I'm
hearing
that's
coming
before
you
has
to
do
with
additional
needs
in
terms
of
positions
and
not
about
pay,
which
is
what
the
pay
stated
was
about
right.
D
D
L
D
And
if
you
approve
something
yeah,
if
you
approve
a
position,
that's
not
in
our
system,
then
we
are
going
to
require
the
elected
official
or
the
department
head.
Have
the
complete
a
job
assessment
too?
That
tells
us
everything
about
that
position,
that
the
percentage
of
time
spent
doing
certain
categories
of
work,
and
then
we
will
have
that
position
assessed
and
and
graded
do.
D
L
B
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
ditto
first
with
the
city
manager
mentioned
in
terms
of
the
positions,
and
that
is
something
that
has
happened
in
the
past.
In
terms
of
when
we
were
out
of
the
UGA
pay
plan.
If
there
was
a
request
that
was
made
by
a
particular
department
or
elected
official,
and
that
position
did
not
exist
within
our
current
classification
plan.
B
The
only
other
thing
I
want
to
make
mention
of
is
in
terms
of
the
revenue
that
was
mentioned
for
the
title
of
alarm
taxes,
and
we
did
budgeted
increase
for
including
increase
for
title
app,
Alarm
taxes
in
the
budget,
with
the
consideration
for
the
increases
that,
because
that
is
a
plan,
that's
sort
of
structured
out
in
terms
of
what
those
percentages
will
be
know.
The
state
sort
of
lays
that
out
ahead
of
time,
and
so
we
did
include
in
the
budget
an
increase
for
Thai
level
arm
taxes,
so.
D
That's
right
and,
and
and
you
know
hopefully,
tabt
will
go
up
next
year.
It's
like,
if
you
know,
Georgia
Power
franchise
fees,
fees
went
up,
I
mean
we
went,
you
know
and
when
we
do,
it
goes
up
the
franchise
fee.
We
budget
that
money
as
Revenue,
and
so
when
tag
have
alarm.
Tax
goes
up.
We
budget
that
money
as
Revenue
against
expenses
and
then
it's
it's
a
part
of
balancing
the
budget
so.
B
Well,
we
do
look
at
the
revenue
projections
that
we
receive
as
of
a
certain
point
in
time,
particularly
it's
February,
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
have
to
do
sort
of
after
the
fact
was
take
a
look
at
the
adjustment
that
was
made
based
on
the
information
that
you
know
we
received
from
your
office.
There
was
a
even
further
reduction
Thailand
alarm.
Taxes
was
actually
down
when
we
were
looking
at
the
revenue
projections
for
FY
24.
I
mean
it
was.
B
G
So
I
heard
you
loud
and
clear
about
the
limited
financial
reporting
from
Tyler
the
Need
For
assistance
there
you
know
I
feel
like
an
analyst
is
probably
going
to
come
in
have
to
learn,
Tyler
and
so
forth,
and
it's
also
a
recurring
Personnel
that
we're
going
to
see
in
next
year's
budget.
Would
you
be
a?
N
I'm
going
reporting,
I
I
mean
it's
an
option.
I
couldn't
say
that,
because
that
consultant
would
have
to
be
on
board
with
us.
Constantly
is
what
I'm,
seeing
in
The
Limited
places
where
they
exist
at,
for
example,
the
reporting
to
try
to
just
exist,
as
we
are
now
we're
having
to
go
to
other
counties
which
is
taking
time
away
from
us
and
in
some
cases
they
have
part
of
Tyler,
but
then
they
have
another
system,
that's
supporting
their
financial
reporting.
N
When
you
asked
about
the
Delinquent
Tax
data
a
few
minutes
ago,
that's
actually
one
of
the
items
that
we're
asking
for
data
on
so
I
told
you
I
couldn't
get
it
to
you
right
away.
That's
one!
That's
been
sitting
in
the
queue
for
them
for
three
weeks.
Okay
technology
for
us
is
just
limited.
That's
just
only
one
area
of
it.
N
N
Our
Auditors
were
being
written
up
for
things
that
are
occurring
because
I
don't
have
people
that
have
the
analytical
skills
and
know
how
to
be
able
to
take
manual
data,
put
it
into
a
a
spreadsheet
A
system
that
just
spits
out
the
data
to
you
and
you're
able
to
analyze
it.
So
it's
just
not
just
that.
G
N
N
Of
correcting
the
inefficiencies
that
we
currently
have
on
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
that's
the
module
that
we
were
missing.
So
if
these
individuals
want
bought
Tyler,
we
would
still
be.
There
are
counties
out
there
that
have
Tyler
right
now
and
they
have
many
more
people
than
I
have
and
much
larger
budgets,
and
they
still
are
having
to
access
pilot
to
make
changes
in
the
program.
So
they
can
get
the
needed
data
that
they
are
that
they
need
I'm,
saying
to
you
that
it's
not
just
Tyler
I'm,
saying
to
you
that.
N
Augusta
has
50
more
employees,
these
employees
they're
good,
okay,
they're,
not
just
a
number.
They
have
the
skill
set
and
we're
lacking
that
so
I'm
not
asking
for
20
more
people,
like
Augusta,
has
I'm
only
asking
for
three
to
make
us
more
responsible
for
us
to
be
more
accountable
for
you
to
have
accurate
data
that
you
can
depend
upon.
The
school
district
calls
me
and
they
ask
me
hey
what
is
this?
What
can
you
tell
me
about
this
I'm,
the
only
one
that
can
you
know
my
accountant
is
working
accounting.
N
We
we
can't
stop
and
we
should
be
able
to
just
Mash
a
button
and
generate
a
report
and
sit
there
and
tell
them
what
it
is
that's
happening.
We
cannot
do
that.
We
can't
do
it.
Okay
and
that's
part.
All
of
this
is
part
of
what
I
see
is
my
fiduciary
responsibility
to
be
able
to
do
those
things
so
I
can't
I
can't
say
that
three
people
are
going
to
solve
the
entire
problem.
N
No
I
can't
say
that,
but
I
can
say
to
you
that
relative
to
the
sizes
and
the
populations
of
other
counties,
that's
justification
that
we're
missing
something
and
what
I
am
seeing
in
my
position
now
and
what
is
validated
by
the
fact
that
we're
getting
written
up
by
the
Auditors,
okay
and
other
things
that
I've
listed
here
and
if
you'd
like
to
talk
to
them
in
more
detail.
We
can.
We
can
do
that
and
get
more
specific.
N
But
there
is
a
crucial
need
here.
A
crucial
need
here,
it's
just
not
IAS
will
programmer
that's
that
I
would
love
to
have
one
on
step
on
a
continuous
basis,
but
we're
tied
into
that.
Okay.
So
when
I
put
a
digest
together
and
that
digest
is
coming
out
of
Tyler
I
have
a
very
small
amount
of
time
that
I
have
to
review
and
analyze
that
that
digest.
If
the
city
wants
its
bills
to
be
in
the
hands
of
the
taxpayers
by
October,
1.,
okay
I
have
to
have
them
and.
A
L
Just
you
know
it's
been
mentioned.
It's
been
mentioned
in
the
past
I'm
a
city
manager
about
issues
with
Tyler.
Perhaps
Council
needs
to
be
brought
up
up
to
speed.
I
mean
we
implemented
that
we've
we've
gone
out
and
we've
said
that
it's
going
to
be
a
win-win
positive
situation,
but
if
we're
still
experiencing
problems
and
there's
issues
across
the
board
with
Tyler,
we
need
to
know
that.
So
maybe
at
some
point
you
can
kind
of
talk
to
us
about
that.
O
B
Madame
buddy
chair
the
city
manager
and
I
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
with
the
chief
and
the
two
Deputy
Chiefs
yesterday,
and
so,
while
there's
no
formal
presentation,
basically
what
they
are
requesting
in
terms
of
the
budget
is
a
budget
neutral
request.
They
have
25
police
cadet
positions.
They
would
like
to
reclassify
some
of
those
police
cadet
positions
to
other
General
government
positions.
These
These
reclassifications
are
budget
neutral.
B
That
would
be
the
reclassification
of
16
police
cadet
positions
to
13
positions,
and,
if
you
give
me
just
a
moment,
I
can
name
those
specifically.
There
is
a
balance
that
exists
with
those
reclassifications
that
the
police,
department
and
I'm
sorry
is
17
police,
cadet
positions
for
13.
positions
to
administrative
technicians,
one
audio,
visual,
visual
technician.
Two
crime
analysts,
one
computer,
forensic
analyst
for
real-time
Center
technicians,
three
crime,
scene,
investigators,
I,
think
these
positions
were
those
positions
recommended
and
that
in
the
study
that
was
done
for
the
department,
so
they're
all
civilian
positions,
none.
B
Present
well
I
just
had
the
numbers
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
give
you
the
numbers.
That's
why
I'm
giving
and
they
can
most
certainly
speak
to
the
request,
which
is
why
they're
here
today,
but
in
terms
of
the
numbers
for
the
reclassification
again
reclassified,
17
police
cadet
positions.
That
would
be
a
and
reclassifying
those
to
the
13
positions.
That
I
mentioned.
That
would
present
a
savings
of
fifty
thousand
seven
hundred
and
two
dollars,
and
they
would
like
to
reallocate
that
to
their
operating
budget.
P
So
why
we're
asking
to
reclass
I
mean
to
add
these
Four
Thirteen
civilian
positions
is
number
one:
the
recommendation
from
the
Jensen
EU
studies
that
will
allow
us
to
take
some
of
the
storm
positions
out
of
these
various
units,
put
them
back
on
the
street
and
then
utilize
civilianize.
Those
positions
it'll
also
assist
with
the
Boost
in
technology
that
has
was
also
recommended
by
Jensen
and
Hughes,
but
to
to
add
technology
packages.
You
have
to
have
a
human
element
behind
that.
So
this
is
a
budget
neutral
request.
P
We
are
giving
up
17
Cadet
positions
which
will
drop
us
down
to
eight
Cadet
positions,
but
we've
never
had
any
more
than
six
Cadet
positions
at
one
time
anyway,
we're
at
we're
at
six
right
now,
so
we're
at
the
the
highest
number
that
we've
had.
So
that
is,
you
know.
That
is
why
we're
making
this
recommendation.
A
B
Ma'am,
it
is
to
reclassify
17
police
cadet
positions
to
13
positions,
that
was
two
administrative
technicians,
one
audio
video
technician;
two
crime
analysts,
one
computer,
forensic
analyst
for
real-time
crime,
Center
technicians
and
three
crime
scene
investigators.
Those
are
the
13
positions
that
the
reclassification
resulted
in
a
savings
of
fifty
thousand
seven
hundred
and
two
dollars
and
they'd
like
to
reallocate
that
fifty
thousand
seven
hundred
and
two
dollars
to
the
operating
budget
to
address
some
operating
needs
that
were
not
included
in
the
mayor's
proposed
budget.
B
A
L
I'm
a
little
reluctant
to
throw
out
a
number
but
I'm
just
going
to
put
this
in
your
lap,
but
it
also
covers
a
sheriff's
office
and
fire.
An
EMS
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time,
mayor
I,
really
we
we
need
to
really
come
back
and
look
at
what
it
will
take
to
do
special
certifications,
certification,
pay,
I
call
it.
You
know
just
simply
combat
payer,
whatever
it's
people
who
are
going
out
above
and
beyond.
L
That
are
whether
it's
swap
whether
special
ops,
whether
it's
your
special
units
and
certifications
where
people
have
put
in
time
they've
invested
we're
not
covering
that
it
just
it's
kind
of
like
an
equal,
but
that
sets
people
up
at
another
level.
I
think,
and
we
need
to
look
at
that
certification
pay
across
the
board.
L
Moving
in
the
right
direction,
you
got
to
have
them,
so
if,
if
an
officer
or
a
person
is
willing
male
female
willing
to
go
above
and
beyond,
I
I
think
we
need
to
start
considering
that
I
just
don't
know
what
that
we
always
ask.
We've
been
asking
many
many
times
what
that
number
is,
but
we
really
or
to
show
us
something
what
those
certifications
would
be.
We
have
to
trust
you
what
they
would
be
and
where
it
would
be
appropriate
to
compensate
them,
but
we
never
get
that.
We
never
see
that
number.
L
Q
A
You
know
one
of
the
things
we've
talked
about.
For
example,
this
one
came
immediately
to
mine.
It
was
in
the
fire
department,
we
have
a
crew
that
does
the
goes
out
whenever
there's
adrenaline
or
something
else,
and
those
people
have
to
be
certified
to
do
that.
I'm
sure
there
there
are
people
in
the
police
department
with
similar
kinds
of
certification
requirements
in
order
for
them
to
do
the
job,
and
that's
that's
what
I
believe
that
counselor
Davis
is
talking
about
those
kinds
of
things
that
are
above
what
the.
O
P
I
I
want
to
just
say
this
about
that
recommendation.
We
have
been
talking
about
that
with
the
transition
we
just
weren't
prepared
to
present
that
to
David.
That
has
been
something
that
has
been
discussed
and
not
just
certification,
but
the
fact
that
some
of
these
units
that
are
on
call
and
they're
on
call,
which
means
they
they
can't
travel.
They
can't
consume
any
alcoholic
beverages.
P
They
have
to
be
available
to
to
be
here
or
at
the
police
department
within
a
45
minute
hour
at
the
longest,
when
they're
called
in
and
all
of
those
are
not
certifications.
All
of
those
like
in
homicide
you,
you
may
not
have
a
certification,
but
you
are
required
to
have
advanced
level
of
training
and
certainly
a
huge
commitment
beyond
that
of
an
average
officer.
So
we
are,
we
have
discussed
this,
but
we
can
we
just
with
the
transition
we
just
weren't
prepared
to
present
that
that's.
P
Q
L
A
L
O
And
I
appreciate
this
opportunity.
Madam
chair,
there
are
certifications,
there's
a
a
intermediate
certification
and
an
advanced
certification
that
police
officers
can
get,
and
but
what
I've
ran
into
here
is
I've.
Had
police
officers
complain
to
me
that
there's
favoritism
that
this
person
will
get
the
opportunity
to
go
to
these
specialized
classes
and
this
person
gets
denied
some
of
the
higher
rankings
said.
The
only
reason
they
get
denied
is
because
that
shift
may
be
short
or
somebody
maybe
on
vacation.
So
there's
a
multitude
of
ways.
O
K
C
You
guys
leave
the
podium
I'm.
Sorry
I
just
want
to
add
one
quick
thing
to
what
we're
talking
about.
Chief,
Kennedy
and
chief
assistant
chief
Kennedy
assistant
chief
Dan
Fitzpatrick
are
right.
We
had
been
talking
about
this
as
part
of
a
retention
program,
and
the
challenge
is
exactly
as
they
spelled
out.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
impacts,
the
different
activities
and
different
different
things
that
the
officers
do
that
should
be
weighted.
C
For
example,
we
didn't
mention
the
ftos
you've
got
officers
out
there,
field
training
officers,
they're
riding
the
new
new
officers
around
so
they're
actually
in
charge.
They've
got
the
added
burden
of
not
only
stopping
crime
and
enforcing
the
law,
but
now
they're,
looking
after
the
safety
of
two
individuals
themselves
and
the
the
the
officer
that
is
on
in
their
care.
So
the
transition
slowed
us
down
just
a
little
bit,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
had
looked
at
as
a
comprehensive
package
for
retention.
C
Some
of
those
are
different
types
of
incentives
for
people,
and
we
don't
want
to
get
into
them
now,
but
we're
going
to
bring
you
back
something,
but
it
can't
it
can't
be
done
just
driven
from
the
Police
Department
fire
department
already
gets
some
of
the
bumps
that
you're
talking
about.
If
the
search
and
Recovery
I
believe
some
of
the
high
row
rescue
some
of
those
types
of
things
and
we've
talked
about
SWAT
and
we've
talked
about
field
training
officers
and
we've
talked
about
shift
differential.
C
We've
talked
about
people
that
are
on
call
and
it
all
of
those
have
to
go
into
the
mix
and
I
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
presented
better
if
we
are
able
to
do
a
study
and
see
what's
going
on
across
the
country,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
and
with
the
transition.
We
were
not
able
to
get
it
done
for
this
budget
session,
but
we'll
certainly
I
think
have
something
by
by
mid-year.
A
Great
great
and
before
you
guys
leave
the
podium
again,
I
want
to
say
to
you
how
much
we
as
citizens
of
Columbus,
appreciate
our
Columbus
Police
Department
and
the
officers
who
work
there
and
what
you
do
to
keep
us
safe.
It's
not
something
that
everybody
can
do,
but
you
do
a
good
job
of
protecting
us
and
making
sure
that
we
have
what
we
need
and
we
want
to
say.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
that.
Thank.
R
Good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
visit
with
you
today.
Everyone
should
have
a
one-page
handout
that
summarizes
some
of
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
within
internal
audit,
literally
within
the
last
two
to
three
weeks.
At
the
point
where
I
was
submitting
the
budget
presentation
of
initially
in
early
February,
we
had
two
open
full-time
equivalent
positions.
R
R
While
there
are
numerous
credentials
that
are
listed
as
requirements
or
possible
requirements,
the
certified
fraud
examiner
is
the
the
credential
that
most
easily
can
be
obtained.
I
did
it
myself
two
years
ago
in
about
90
days,
I
know
of
folks
that
can
complete.
This
have
done
it
in
six
weeks.
The
exam
is
is
not
hard
and
fast
to
a
calendar.
You
can
test
when
ready
it's
administered
online
with
proctoring
services,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
basically
bringing
everyone
up
to
full
status
as
quickly
as
possible.
R
One
of
the
things
that
I've
encountered
in
recent
months
is
that
we've
got
departments
that
have
not
received
a
visit
from
internal
audit.
In
many
many
years
we
also
have
talked
about
master
planning
and
master
planning
really
takes.
The
guesswork
takes
the
taint,
the
suggestion
of
bias
out
of
requested
audits.
We
sit
down
and
we
actually
look
at
the
risk
exposure
that
might
exist
in
one
Department
versus
another.
Do
you
handle
a
good
bit
of
cash?
What's?
R
I
do
intend
to
lead
and
Coach,
because
I'm
going
to
have
to
coach
I
want
to
see
a
succession
plan,
an
internal
audit
that
is
Meaningful
and
also
that
we
basically
address
tone
and
tenor
in
our
work.
Internal
audits
should
be
value-added
focused
when
we
go
out
into
a
work
area,
we're
not
there
to
fuel
anxiety.
If
you,
if
we're
out
there
fueling
anxiety,
we
need
to
reflect
upon
what
we're
doing,
because
we're
not
doing
it
right
to
go
out
there
with
the
intent
that
you're
going
to
go
and
look
for
process
opportunities.
R
R
We
may
have
lost
sight
of
that
in
in
recent
years.
It's
easy
to
see,
you
know,
hey,
we
go
into
a
work
area
and
we
see
Financial
crime.
If
we
see
it,
if,
when
we
see
it,
we
are
going
to
be
fearless
and
passionate,
because
that's
why
we're
there,
but
we're
also
losing
our
way
a
little
bit
and
that
we
shouldn't
just
terrorize
or
Inspire
anxiety
by
showing
up
you
know
we're
going
to
go
out
there
and
look
for
process
Improvement
and
bring
a
brighter
day.
R
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
going
to
come
out
of
master
plan
now
when
we
do
that,
though,
we're
creating
a
lot
of
work,
I
see
the
next
six
to
18
months
being
pretty
wild
in
this
work
area
and
at
the
encouragement
of
several
of
you,
I'm
sharing
some
anticipated
needs
that
were
not
in
the
original
request,
which
was
simply
you
know.
Last
year's
request.
You
know
now
that
we
have
filled
positions.
R
You
know
it's
it's
a
new
day.
It's
been
suggested,
perhaps
a
car
allowance.
What
I
would
suggest
for
that
in
like
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
be
pretty
busy
a
car
allowance
as
a
budget
neutral
in
place
of
local
mileage
to
to
basically
not
not
add
dollars
to
the
budget
but
view
it
as
a
neutral
activity?
R
One
additional
full-time
equivalent
forensic
auditor,
beginning
at
the
starting
salary
of
the
58
905.
This
does
not
necessarily
have
to
be
funded
at
the
start
of
the
budget
year.
It
could
be
a
mid-year
funding
right
now,
I'm
pretty
much
drinking
out
of
the
fire
hose
and
that
I'm
going
to
be
seriously
coaching
two
folks
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
here
and
it
may
go
on
until
Labor
Day.
R
The
other
suggestion
that
had
been
made
and
given
what
I've
seen
the
last
couple
of
years,
it's
pretty
important.
The
possibility
of
engaging
with
a
third
party
whistleblower
hotline
service
I
know
that
our
counselor
Tyson
had
mentioned
that
he
had
used
Lighthouse
Services
I've
reached
out
to
them,
seeking
a
quote
because
they
quote
monthly
service
fees
tied
to
the
employees
that
are
employed
in
your
organization,
the
number
of
employees
and
I'm
literally
waiting
for
a
quote
from
them.
Probably
later
today,
I've
been
checking,
you
know
for
text
updates
or
what
have
you?
R
This
would
be
in
place
of
and
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
my
experiences
with
our
existing
whistleblower
hotline
During,
the
period
of
time
in
which
we
did
not
have
an
appointed
internal
auditor
which
went
on
a
number
of
months
after
Mr
Redmond's
retirement.
During
that
Gap
I
had
been
Manning,
the
calls
when
they
would
come
and
I
will
tell
you
that
we
don't
really
get
that
many
calls.
R
Typically
I
will
send
a
copy
of
any
Communications
out
to
our
HR
Director,
but
then
to
the
impacted
department
so
that
they
have
an
opportunity
to
respond,
and
if
you
view
the
hotline,
you
know
from
a
pure
intent.
You
know,
if
you
see
something
say
something
what
happens
on
this
line
when
you
get
anything.
If
you
get
anything,
I
tend
to
get
calls
that
are
really
misplaced,
where
it's
an
anonymous
employee
that
has
some
grievance,
they
feel
compelled
to
air,
that's
not
being
addressed
that
belongs
someplace
between
their
leadership
and
the
HR
office.
R
That's
that's
one
type
of
call
that
you
get
the
other
type
of
call
that
we
commonly
get
is
some
type
of
neighborhood
complaint
about.
What's
going
on
with
their
waste
pickup,
you
know
the
truck
came
down
my
street
and
they
didn't
stop
at
my
house
or
whatever.
So
we
get
that
type
of
thing.
I
literally
did
have
one
call
yesterday
that
really
was
best
placed
in
the
financial
crimes
unit
over
at
CPD.
R
This
was
someone
that
didn't
want
to
identify
themselves
other
than
they
were
a
victim
and
wanted
to
perfectly
identify
someone
by
name
address
and
phone
number
that
was
scamming
folks
out
of
thousands
of
dollars
on
the
internet,
and
it
didn't
necessarily
need
to
be.
In
my
see
something
say
something
category
you
know:
we'd
have
an
unknown
victim.
You
know,
but
they're
happy
to
tell
us
exactly
where
to
find
the
crook
you
know.
So
there
was
probably
a
better
place
for
that
call.
What
I
did
with
that
one?
R
Obviously
I
shared
with
our
HR
Director,
but
addressed
it
over
to
CPD,
so
that
they
would
have
an
opportunity
to
work
with
it.
But
generally
the
hotline
has
taken
a
bit
of
a
nap.
If
you
will
I,
don't
know
if
it's
been
a
lack
of
promotion,
but
what
the
third
party
folks
would
do,
they
would
vet
the
calls
they
would
monitor
the
calls
and
then
route
them
appropriately
in
our
organization
if
they
belong
in
HR.
If
they
belong
in
in
the
financial
crimes
wheelhouse
that
they
would
then
route
them
to
the
places
they
belong.
R
Okay
and
I'm,
anticipating
a
number,
perhaps
two
thousand
dollars
three
thousand
dollars.
I
will
I'll
share
that
information
as
soon
as
I
receive
it,
and
it
could
be
literally
later
today
and
then.
Lastly,
additional
continuing
education
funds
that
are
going
to
be
necessary
to
credential,
folks
and
again
I'm,
taking
taking
them
down
the
the
swiftest
path
to
be
perfectly
credentialed
for
their
roles
and
in
in
acfe.
R
You
basically
have
to
set
set
someone
up
as
a
member
set
them
up
for
their
their
online
prep
class
and
then
schedule
them
for
their
exam
and
I'd
rather
see
folks
fly
through
the
process.
If
they
can,
you
know
I'm
going
to
coach.
It
I
do
believe
that
the
department
as
Tiny
as
we
are,
if
we're
serving
and
out
there
in
the
Departments
the
way
we
need
to
be
that
we
need
to
have
reasonable,
responsible
succession
planning,
and
these
folks
are
going
to
be
worth
the
investment
I
would
appreciate
your
consideration.
Okay,
questions.
L
Director
McGinnis,
thank
you,
I
think
this
was
much
needed
and
you
come
in
before
us
because
I
think
it's
been
over
a
while.
We
need
to
see
more
of
a
clear
picture
or
snapshot
of
which
direction
you're
going
you
you've
you've
touched
on
a
lot
of
that
today.
I
think
these
are
some
great
ideas.
We've
mentioned
some
of
these
in
the
past,
I'm
glad
to
see
you
have
them
on
the
list,
because
that's
actually
what
we
said,
we
were
going
to
do.
L
L
But
you
know
it's
heading
in
that
right
direction
and
I
think
IBM
and
I.
Think
I
would
like
this.
Our
government
to
start
thinking
like
this
a
little
bit
more
but
IBM
is,
is
learned
that
they've
created
a
new
term
for
jobs.
Actually,
it's
no
longer
blue
collar
and
white
collar
jobs,
now
they're,
calling
it
new
collar
jobs
and-
and
it's
because
of
the
situation,
we're
in
Where
It's,
just
tough
to
find
Talent,
it's
tough
to
make
hires.
Okay,
we
talk
about
it
all
the
time
we
just
can't
find
anybody.
L
Nobody
wants
to
work
well,
they've
determined
that
they
can't
compete
with
Google
Microsoft
Amazon.
All
these
other
companies
out
of
Facebook,
all
of
them
out
there
competing
against
each
other,
stealing
each
other's
employees.
You
know
because
it's
just
that
world
so
they're
like
we
can't
play
that
game.
L
We
just
can't
do
that
anymore,
so
we're
going
to
take
a
chance
on
people
that
we
already
employ
and
we're
going
to
train
them,
we're
going
to
teach
them
we're
going
to
bring
them
up
and
we're
going
to
teach
them
the
IBM
way
and
I
like
that,
and
you
know,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
taking
you
know.
Sometimes
you
might
have
to
bypass
requirements
and
and
and
maybe.
L
R
R
You
know
and
I'm
still
looking
at
authorized
work
from
October
of
2019.,
so
that's
really
got
to
get
addressed
before
we
open
open
master
plan,
but
again
master
plan
is
something
that
we
should
have
probably
had
a
number
of
years
ago
and
I
know
it's
easier
to
talk
about
it
than
implement
it,
but
I
want
to
get
the
the
tone
antenna
correct
it.
If
you
will
that
a
visit
from
internal
audit
is
not
something
to
generate
fear
anxiety,
it's
to
be
welcomed,
it's
an
opportunity
that
you're
being
given.
L
A
C
That
the
car
allowance,
in
order
to
for
the
budget
committee,
to
approve
that
it
has
to
come
through
the
has
come
through
the
mayor
or
the
city
manager,
and
since
she
reports
up
to
the
mayor
it
has
to
come
up,
has
to
come
to
me.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
Are
we
talking
about
car
allowances
for
through
all
three
individuals?
C
Just
so
it's
a
it's.
A
paper
is
what
it
is:
okay,
because
it's
not
really
Revenue
neutral,
because
I
think
we've
we've
paid
out
about
twelve
hundred
dollars
so
far
this
year
and
reimbursable
mileage
and
of
course
the
car
allowance
is
about
700
a
month,
so
it
is
going
to
be.
It
is
going
to
have
an
impact
on
the
budget,
and
I
also
wanted
to
be
clear
too,
that
the
ad
for
the
third
forensic
auditor
to.
S
R
I
believe
that
would
be
responsible
action
in
terms
of
the
timing.
You
know
I'm
going
to
be
full-time
coaching,
a
lot
of
the
time
you
know
and
the
early
audits
that
the
newcomers
are
presenting.
It's
going
to
be
team
activities
with
me.
You
know
before
I
cut
them
loose,
so
I
think
mid-year
would
be
appropriate.
Okay,.
C
B
A
B
R
A
Number,
let's
put
the
3
000
on
there,
all
right,
gotcha,
okay!
Thank
you,
Miss
McGinnis!
Thank
you
very
much.
Those
are
the
departments
that
are
on
the
list.
I
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
questions
that
various
people
have
I
have
two
questions:
general
questions,
Miss
Alexander
in
the
ad
that
we
did
for
the
Sheriff's
Office.
It
says:
increase
in
travel
funds
for
training
when
I
went
back
and
listened
to
what
he
said.
A
F
A
Thank
you
and
Mr
city
manager,
as
we
have
looked
at
all
of
these
we've
gotten.
All
of
these
ad
deletes
I
was
struck
by
the
number
of
directors,
are,
are
officers
or
judges
who
came
to
us
from
our
judicial
community
and
ask
for
additional
personnel
and
every
one
of
them
said
to
us.
We
can't
do
our
job
in
court.
If
we
don't
have
these
this,
these
people
on
board
and
I
was
struck
by
the
fact
that
in
the
budget
present
in
the
budget
recommendation,
there
were
no
public.
A
No
additional
employees
recommended
for
any
Department
and
I
I
would
like
for
you
to
speak
to
that.
Why?
Why
were
not
the
some
of
these
taken
into
consideration?
We
seem
to
have
some
funds
that
might
be
available
to
do
this.
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
think
I
just
have
what
what
do
you.
D
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
budget
chair,
I,
think
I've
said
at
each
opening
session
that
you
are
going
to
hear
from
judges,
elected
officials,
department,
heads
and
every
one
of
those
requests.
I
think
I
preface
my
remarks
by
saying
every
one
of
those
requests
are
valid
requests
and
and
if
we
had
the
funding
or
could
identify
the
funding,
I
think
I
even
said
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting.
We
would
have
funded
them,
and
so
in
fact,
I
spoke
to
the
public
defender
how
they
need
additional
public
defenders.
D
A
I
guess
that's
one
of
the
things
that
that
bothers
me
is
that,
for
example,
I
know
that
both
the
district
attorney
and
the
public
defender's
office
said
to
us.
We
can't
have
court
if
we
don't
have
these
positions
and
that's
a
real
concern
to
me
and
I
think
to
our
other
counselors
that
we've
got
to
do
something
to
give
them
this,
the
staff
that
they
need
in
order
for
them
to
carry
out
what
needs
to
be
done
in
the
judicial
branch
of
the
government.
A
D
A
They
said
if
we
don't
have
a
public
defender,
we
can't
have
court
if
we
don't
have
somebody
to
be
the
public
defender
for
this
person
who
can't
afford
a
lawyer.
We
can't
have
court
if
we
don't
have
an
interpreter
in
the
superior
court
for
somebody
who
needs
a
language
and
are
a
hearing
interpreter.
We
can't
have
court
so
they
did
say
that,
and
they
said
that
over
and
over
several
of
them
did.
D
Well
did
say
that
they
may
have
said
it
in
here
I'm
saying
when
we
went
through
the
budget
process,
they
did
not
say
we,
we
cannot
have
court,
they
are
currently
having
court
with
the
situation
450
to
500
cases
with
interpreters.
They
are
currently
having
court.
Is
it
tough?
Yes,
and
so
you
know
I,
don't
I
I
like
I
I,
don't
I
know
some
of
them
are
not
here,
but
I
think
they
can
have
cool
wait
because
I
never
heard
that.
J
I'd,
like
my
to
make
the
parks
and
rec
ads
that
I
was
I,
wanted
to
do.
I
have
had
significant
complaints
from
my
constituents
who
are
at
Beachwood
League
that
they're
having
to
mow
the
grass.
So
that's
certainly
an
issue
director
router
I,
I,
I
I,
don't
like
to
split
the
baby.
We
can't
afford
six
people
but
I'm
either
willing
to
offer
two
part-time,
which
would
be
51
100
and
four
per
year
are
and
one
full-time,
45
502.
J
Yes,
it's
it's
just
they're
spread
out
some
of
the
same
position,
so
I'm
it's
hard
for
me
to
tell
which
ones
were
associated
with
lake
bottom,
but
if
she
can't
hire
somebody
because
I
understand,
25
000
is
quite
low.
If
she
can't
hire
somebody
I'd
be
willing
to
add
a
second
full-time
person,
but
not
a
third
and
I'd
like
to
make
an
ad
for
one
98,
one
zero
turn
mower,
which
is
nine
thousand
one
hundred
eighteen
dollars.
A
J
I'm,
basing
it
off
I
guess:
that's
114
ish,
but
only
two
positions,
two
positions
and
then
g114
parks
and
maintenance
worker,
which
is
about
five
or
six
lines
up.
There's
there's
several
there,
the
same
45
502,
there's
one
that
says
times
three
but
I'm
willing
to
Grant
one
and
then
on
the
actual
list
that
she
gave
us
for
Capital
expenses,
because
she
has
quite
a
few
listed.
J
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
mention
just
just
the
I
do
think
we
need
activity
leaders,
but
right
now
we
just
don't
have
that
type
of
money.
So
I
would
really
strongly
encourage
trying
to
get
volunteers.
To
do
that.
I
mean
counselor
house
spent
numerous
hours,
volunteerings
organizations
at
the
Industry,
Museum
and
others,
but
maybe
we
could
fill
some
of
that
Gap
with
some
volunteers.
A
B
P
J
A
I
D
I
T
I
guess
they
could
fall
under
Parks
and
Rec
or
just
under
General,
and
a
meeting
wouldn't
be
complete
without
the
topic
of
pickleball.
So
it's
not
a
an
immediate
spend,
but
I
would
like
to
earmark
two
days
of
our
Reserve
in
conjunction
with
the
sploss,
to
consolidate
our
resources
and
use
that
specifically
for
a
pickleball
complex
outside
of
the
Cooper
Creek
location.
So
much
like
the
quarter
deal
where
it
would
be
contingent
on
them.
T
T
For
other
events,
it's
I
know
it's
pretty
important
from
an
economic
standpoint,
on
being
able
to
consolidate
all
those
courts
together,
rather
than
have
them
spread
out
all
over
the
city
and
run
into
an
issue
like
we
do
with
softball,
where
we
have
to
utilize
other
parks
for
for
tournaments
and
just
to
have
them
all
in
one
location
is
going
to
be
provide
that
stronger
economic
impact
over
the
course
of
the
next
five
or
ten
years.
It.
A
I
A
D
We
will
meet
with
those
who
have
been
working
with
pickleball
to
see
if
we
can
come
to
some
understanding,
but
the
special
purpose:
local
option,
sales,
tax
money
that
funds
that
were
approved
by
the
voters
said
that
we
would
be
put
in
pickleball
at
Cooper
Creek,
and
so
that's
a
promise
made
that
we've
got
to
deliver
on
I,
believe
Miss
Browder
said
Cooper
Creek,
and
so
because
we
specified
that
in
that
process,
unless
you
decide
to
do
something
differently.
Typically,
the
promise
made
is
a
promise
care
and
so
well.
A
Up
on
the
table,
okay,
the
Finance
director
has
asked
us
for
a
short
break,
so
they
can
pull
some
of
these
numbers
together.
I
know
that
in
our
audience
are
several
people
who
have
made
presentations
to
us
who
are
waiting
to
see
what
we're
going
to
do
with
their
requests,
and
but
we
will
try
to
be
very
quick.
B
B
L
I'd
like
to
since
it
was
brought
up
I'd
like
to
address
it,
since
it's
going
to
be
imperative
that
they
understand
the
information
when
these
conversations
take
place.
But
what
what
what
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
I
was
involved
in
Quota
when
we
put
the
public-private
partnership
together
with
CSU.
It
took
many
many
years
to
make
that
happen,
but
we
had
to
step
up
to
the
plate
and
jump
started
and
I'm.
Looking
at
these
funds
are
imperative.
We
need
to
make
a
decision.
L
The
city
needs
to
make
a
decision
whether
we're
going
to
get
involved
if
we're
going
to
participate.
If
we're
going
to
support
this
effort,
we
are
missing
out
on
hundreds
of
thousands
of
sport,
tourism
dollars
sales
tax
dollars,
the
numbers
that
are
coming
in
across
this
country
and
we're
so
far
behind
the
numbers
that
are
coming
in
across
this
country.
I
would
go
to
bat
and
put
money
down
that
it
will
surpass
our
softball
the
revenues
that
softball
brings
in,
and
we
need
to
figure
out
if
we're
going
to
do
this.
L
But
you
can't
have
just
a
parks
and
recs
facility
and
a
complex
at
the
same
time,
you're
going
to
have
to
choose
one
other.
What
we're
going
to
do
if
you're
going
to
build
a
parks
and
recs
facility,
there's
no
need
to
build
a
complex,
but
we
got
people
in
this
community
that
have
been
working
hard
that
are
willing
to
write
big
checks.
L
Okay,
big
checks.
We
can
make
this
happen
and
it's
there.
We
just
the
city
is
going
to
be
the
spark
plug
to
make
this
work.
And
if
we
don't
show
a
level
of
commitment
here,
it's
going
to
go
away
and
we're
just
going
to
deal
with
parks
and
recs
court
that
I
challenge
you
that
it's
not
going
to
work
at
Cooper
Creek,
because
Sears
wood
is
not
going
to
have
pickleball
in
their
backyard.
L
I
can
just
tell
you
that
right
now,
because
I'm
getting
those
calls
from
Green
Island
every
day,
I'm
getting
calls
about
the
noise,
the
lights
and
everything
else,
and
unless
you
got
a
site
to
put
that
many
courts
in
the
parking
and
everything
I
just
don't
see
how
it's
going
to
work.
So
the
complex
is
the
way
to
go.
Opelika
little
town,
not
far
from
us
just
had
almost
16
500
people
come
into
little
Opelika
to
play.
Pickleball.
L
But
we
people
need
to
see
that
the
city
is
behind
this
or
they're,
just
not
going
to
they're,
not
going
to
get
involved
and
there's
initiatives
going
on
right
now
to
get
this
thing
going
and
the
city
needs
to
make
a
decision.
So
I
just
want
to
say
it
man,
a
budget
chair,
I,
appreciate
you
giving
me
the
time
and
I
know
that
the
clock's
running
but
I
just
felt
like
it
needed
to
be
highlighted
on
what
councilor
kogel
just
said.
Okay,.
A
D
A
D
That
is
not
to
say,
we
would
not
have
a
partnership
with
this
group
at
another
location
you
don't
have
to
eliminate
pickleball
courts
or
whatever
that
number
will
buy
at
Cooper,
Creek
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
I
mean
do
what
we
promised
for
Cooper
Creek
and
deliver
on
the
promise.
And
then,
if
we
meet
and
we
decide-
hey,
okay
City
needs
to
buy
in
and
Council
coger
wants
two
days
of
reserve
and
we
can
put
yeah.
You
work
a
partnership
and
because
we
want
we
want
pickleball
courts
at
Comer.
We've
talked
about
interior.
D
We
want
Cooper
pickleball.
We
want
some
pickleball
all
over
the
city,
but
we
want
that
one
Central,
complex
and-
and
that
is
where
the
partnership
that
you
talked
about
might
come
in,
so
you
can
do
both
separately.
So
don't
think
that
I'm
saying
you
know
we're
going
to
Cooper
Creek
and
we
don't
want
to
talk
to
you.
We
we're
going
to
Cooper
Creek,
but
we
want
to
see
how
and
if
we
can
partner,
to
build
a
bigger,
better
complex
to
do
all
the
things
that
you
just
talked
about.
A
Okay,
it
is
now
11
52.,
we'll
come
back
at
five
minutes
after
12.,
we
are
ready
to
resume
I
I,
guess
Miss
Alexander
we're
ready,
yes,
ma'am!
Okay,
she
has
distributed
to
the
committee
the
complete
ad
delete
list
that
we
have
developed
over
the
last
three
meetings
and
Miss
Alexander.
How
do
you
think
is
the
easiest
way
for
us
to
do
this.
A
Whatever
is
on
this
on
the
winds
up
on
the
ad
list,
so
with
that
Miss
Alexander,
if
you
will
start
and
I
think
once
she
reads
it,
if
there's
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
to
that
issue,
please
push
your
button
and,
if
there's
not
I,
will
ask
for
a
motion
to
add
to
add
that
or
or
to
take
that
action.
I
think
that's
what
I'll
say
to
take
that
action,
so
that
will
include
both
the
ADD
and
delete
and
we
will
vote
to
whether
or
not
to
do
that
so
miss
Alexander.
A
A
B
Okay,
all
right,
Miss,
Alexander,
all
right.
First
item
on
the
list.
It
was
added
May,
2nd
by
councilor
Huff
for
the
sheriff's
department.
It
is
to
increase
travel
funds
for
training
at
ninety
thousand
dollars.
The
general
fund
impact
of
two-hour
Reserve
fund
is
0.15
days.
If
there
are
no
deletions
to
add,
are.
M
A
K
M
L
This
is
to
the
90
000
right,
and
you
know,
I
really
I
really
think
I
would
revisit
and
understand,
I'm
I'm
hearing
that
a
lot
of
this
is
for
specialized
training.
That's
going
to
help
an
area
of
suppression
on
crime
gang
training.
You
know
dealing
with
these
gangs
dealing
with
a
lot
of
these
other
criminal
type
aspects
that
we're
having
in
our
community.
You
know
I
I,
think
am
I
right
on
that.
L
A
U
I
think
what
the
if
I,
remember,
what
the
sheriff
said
and
I
think
all
of
us
around
this
table
have
been
pretty
satisfied
with
the
with
the
arrests
with
the
movement
of
drugs
off
the
street
and
with
the
individuals
who
have
been
apprehended
and
from
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
people
gives
them
an
extra
measure
of
comfort
that
this
particular
action
is
going
on.
So
I
I
think
the
sheriff
did
say.
I
What
they're
saying
is
there
is
money
right
now,
so
if
we
say
no
to
this
and
just
delay
it
until
mid
budget,
he
still
has
funds
right
now
to
do
this,
so
he'd
use
what
he
has
and
then,
when
that's
depleted,
he
comes
back
to
us
mid
budget.
You
know
they
do
that.
All
the
time
I
mean
they
come
before
us
all.
The
time
saying
that
they're
going
to
exceed
the
budget
I
can
live
with
that.
Okay,.
J
Still
willing
to
support
us
now,
I
I,
think
with
the
funding
I
mean
he's
already
he's
already
told
me
he's
going
to
run
out.
You
know
if
he
doesn't
have
an
increase
in
six
months,
which
I
understand
the
mid.
Some
of
us
are
talking
about
Midway,
but
some
of
these
training
programs
might
be
bids
that
take
more
time
to
get.
He
may
run
out
of
money
and
not
have
the
money
in
his
budgeted
to
be
able
to
make
a
bid
on
a
certain
program
or
a
certification,
so
I
mean
I'm
supporting
the
the
sheriff's
request.
J
A
A
U
I
A
G
This
is
my
first
time
going
through
this,
but
I
felt
like
we've
seen
the
Columbus
Police
Department
doesn't
necessarily
use
all
their
funding
for
personnel
and
we
don't
expect
that
to
get
100
in
the
next
by
June,
30th
and
so
assuming
that
there's
going
to
be
excess
money
there
that
could
potentially
go
to
the
fund.
It's
not
like
we're
by
spending
this
extra
money
we're
still
using
that
money
towards
Public
Safety,
which
I
think
is
the
priority.
My
understanding
that
correctly,
okay,
okay.
A
B
Second,
item
on
the
list
is
for
the
sheriff's
department.
It
is
also
it
was
added
on
May,
2nd
by
councilor
Garrett,
but
it's
the
increase.
The
non-swarm
bailiffs
pay
from
15
an
hour
to
twenty
dollars
an
hour.
The
sheriff
was
request,
an
additional
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
this
increase
in
the
hourly
rate
for
the
non-sworn
bailiffs.
J
B
A
B
L
A
A
I
You're
not
on
if
we
start
taking
the
Personnel
or
the
salaries
out
of
Reserve,
then
Glenn
you're,
the
big
proponent.
You
know
this
is
one
of
your.
You
know
mountains.
You
want
to
die
on
and
I
agree
with
you
100
percent,
it
has
to
be
sustainable.
I
mean
it's
one
thing
to
take
it
from
this
reserves
this
year,
but
then
what
happens
moving
forward
each
year?
A
It
would
seem
to
me
Council
crab
that
if,
if
we
approve
a
Personnel
action
and
that
for
fiscal
24,
it
comes
out
of
the
reserve,
then
when
the
budget
for
fiscal
25
is
developed
either
they
will
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor
will
have
to
find
the
money
in
in
that
Department's
budget
already
or
they
will
have
to
come
back
and
take
the
next
one
out
of
the
reserve.
So
it's
up
to
the.
A
If,
if
we
approve
a
Personnel
action,
it's
it's
thought
to
be
an
ongoing
action
right
that
person
that
position
would
be
ongoing,
and
so
what
we're
saying
is
now
we
would
take
it
this
year.
We
would
take
it
out
of
the
reserve
and
it
would
be
up
to
the
city
manager
and
the
finance
director
and
the
mayor
to
find
the
money
in
the
city.
In
years,
Mr
city
manager,.
D
D
Is
very
concerning
to
me
it
should
be
a
one
if
it
was
a
capital
item.
That
was
a
one-time
thing.
Then
that's
fine!
We
used
10
point
what
to
balance
10
and
a
half
million
to
balance
this
budget
from
Reserves,
and
now
we
are
going
through
three
four
pages
of
items
that
we
got
to
get
to
and
and
I
know
a
lot
of
it.
The
only
way
to
fund
it
is
out
of
Reserve
and
I'll,
say
for
the
record.
D
D
Yeah
I
I
would
say
we
would
never
feel
them.
The
goal
is
to
find
them
hire
them
field
them
and
and
then,
of
course,
when
you
have
sour
Savings
in
the
old
days,
I
will
say:
sour
savings
was
used
to
build
your
reserve,
and
so
we
didn't
let
department,
heads,
Public,
Safety
or
otherwise.
Use
Reserve.
Excuse
me,
salary
savings
to
do
extra
things.
It
went
over
into
the
reserve
and
that's
how
we
built
and
maintain
no
less
than
60
days
or
administrative
policy
in
90
days,
and
so
the
intent
is
to
fill
those
positions.
I
You
know
have
positions
that
we
you
know
we
need
some
more
Personnel
in
certain
areas,
I
mean
we
are
trying
desperately
to
take
care
to
deal
with
the
crime
issue
here,
and
so
you
know
these:
the
law
enforcement
departments,
the
Justice
departments.
You
know
there
is
no
way
we're
going
to
get
a
handle
on
the
crime
in
this
city
without
putting
you
know,
fun
funds
and
boots
on
the
ground
to
take
care
of
of
this
issue.
I
So
I'd,
you
know
I.
If
there
is
salary
savings
somewhere,
you
know
we
should
be
able
to
Project
based
on
last.
You
know
several
years
that
we
will
be
able
to
hire
so
many
people
in
this
department.
So
many
people
in
this
department-
and
we
know
that
we've
padded-
that
those
those
departments
with
additional
Personnel
that
we
know
that
it's
it's
above
what
we've
even
been
able
to
hire
in
the
last
three
to
five
years.
I
B
If
I
may,
the
state
manager
it's
no
secret,
that
for
a
while,
the
police
department,
as
Council
Begley
mentioned,
typically
have
a
some
salary
savings.
Just
due
to
the
number
of
vacancies
that
they've
had
I
will
say
Incorporated
within
this
particular
budget,
we
are
anticipating
salary,
Savings
of
about
28,
additional
positions
for
the
police
department
and
eight
additional
positions
for
the
sheriff's
office
as
salary
savings.
So
from
a
public
safety
standpoint,
which
is
usually
our
largest
generator
of
salary
savings.
That's
already
Incorporated
in
the
budget
that
was
presented.
D
D
D
D
A
L
A
L
Is
your
issue
yeah
I'm
here
I
think
counselor
crabby
just
made
my
case
for
me,
but
let
me
just
say
this:
what
what
what
I
heard
from
the
judicial
branch?
Well
every
bit
of
this
stuff
is
hand
and
glove
I
mean
it's
just
somebody
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
we
talked
about
a
new
judge,
more
cake,
more
court
cases
run
cases
through.
L
Do
we
understand
how
much
money
the
clerk
of
superior
court
collects
and
is
responsible
and
if
they're
moving
along
they're
running
efficient
and
collecting
and
those
funds
are
coming
in,
I
mean
I.
I
I
would
take
that
chance
of
balancing
the
request
with
what
they're
capable
of
doing
a
return
on
investment
I
mean
I
would
really
challenge
that
that
may
be
yet
to
see
be
seen,
but
look
yeah.
All
the
money
we
have
is
in
the
refund
balance.
L
L
D
Not
popular
but
in
you
know
difficult
times
required
to
you
know
difficult
decisions
and-
and
you
all
you've
got
a
list
before
you
that
you
got
to
make
some
tough
decisions
on
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
be
in
your
your
shoes.
But
but
you
know,
I
mean
I'm
going
to
sit
back
and
you
know
we'll
see
where
we
are
when
you
get
to
the
end
of
this
list.
But
but
we've
got
to
not
just
we
got
to
be
able
to
sustain
whatever
decisions.
You
will
look.
L
I've
been
accused
of
squeaking
when
I
walk
and
I'm
so
tight,
sometimes
okay,
and
that
I
look
I'm
with
you,
I
mean
I'm
all
conservative
when
it
comes
to
budgeting.
That's
just
my
mentality
and
I
agree
100
with
what
you're
saying
but
I'm
willing
to
take
where
we're
at
right
now,
I'm
willing
to
take
that
that
risk
to
see
that
return
on
investment
that
we
can
sustain
it
yeah.
But
if
not
I
know
what
the
inevitable
is
yeah
and
everybody
needs
to
know
this,
the
inevitable
is
you
come
back,
tell
them
to
cut
their
budgets.
L
L
A
G
So
I
I
do
want
to
understand
the
process
because,
like
I
know,
Public
Safety
is
a
priority.
I'll
also
know
there's
a
there's
a
big
case
log,
and
so
when
we're
and
so
I
agree
fund
Reserve
is
not
the
ideal
place
to
get
it
from,
but
I
do
see.
There's
increases
in
human
resources
and
Fleet
Management
and
Metro
operations.
D
That's
that's
why
you
see
increases
in
in
some
of
those
budgets.
They
didn't
just
get
new
stuff
and,
and
that
you
heard
me
say
earlier,
the
HR
Director
says
well:
I
need
to
get
on
the
list.
They
didn't
get
new
stuff.
You
know
if,
if
their
personnel
were
significantly
yeah
lower
than
market
and
and
all
then
it's
it's
in
all
likelihood
everywhere,
you
see
an
increase
in
a
various
Department
in
the
various
Department
had
to
do
with
the
pace,
study
and
so
look.
D
You
know.
I
I
met
with
the
financial
right
now.
I
met
with
the
Columbus
Police
Department
yesterday
and
I'd
like
to
use
them
as
an
example
of
you
know,
trying
to
make
it
work,
you
saw
them
give
up
Cadet
positions
to
gain
new
position
to
further
their
mission
and
what
they
presented
to
you
today
was
a
budget
neutral
request
that
would
get
them
where
they
need
to
be
and
I
just
I
wish.
There
was
some
way
to
figure
out
that
for
for
many
that
you
have
on
this
list,
some
you
can.
G
I
guess
at
some
point:
do
we
see
the
details?
You
know
to
see
Fleet
Management.
This
is
the
pace
that
he
increases.
This
is
some
new
Personnel.
This
is
something
else
just
we
can
understand
that
because,
if
I
want
to,
if
people
are
asking,
why
is
Fleet
Management
going
up
yeah
and
Public
Safety?
We
denied
these
requests
like?
How
do
we
answer
that.
D
B
B
B
And
the
general
fund
did
go
up
23.81,
that's
all
Personnel,
that's
inclusive
of
the
of
the
pay
study,
as
well
as
the
fringe
benefits.
Our
friends
benefits
went
up.
The
cost
per
of
budgeted
position
from
a
full-time
position
went
up
this
fiscal
year
over
the
last
year
last
year,
I
believe
it
was
6100.
Now
this
year
is
6
500
per
budgeted
position.
Our
pension
contribution
did
go
up
as
well
in
terms
of
the
required
minimum
contributions
that
we
are
supposed
to
make
as
a
city.
D
And
then
you
gotta
remember
we
we
no
one's
making
less
than
15
an
hour
and
where
are
those
people
working
Public
Works
we're
paying
CDL
Drivers
twenty
one
dollars?
We
went
to
21
an
hour.
Where
do
those
people
work,
Public,
Works
and
Metra?
All
the
Twitter
went
out,
so
it
has
to
do
with
the
pay
study
because
we
didn't
increase
anything.
A
A
M
B
Well,
I
do
believe
that
the
tax
assessor
did
request
to
get
on
the
city
manager's
agenda
for
the
20
23rd
yeah
23rd
meeting,
so
I
do
believe
she'll.
The
tax
assessor
will
discuss
the
increase
in
the
diet,
any
increases
in
the
digest.
At
that
time,
I
will
say,
though
the
increase
in
the
digest
is
not
all
City
money,
so
to
speak,
I
mean
it's
City
money
and
that
you
know
we
collect
the
offices
and
departments
in
the
city.
B
Do
collect
the
money
and
do
the
assessment
as
far
as
the
digest,
but
a
lot
of
the
growth
that
we've
seen
is
relative
to
the
Taz,
so
those
monies
are
set
aside
specifically
for
the
tads
they
go
into
the
tabs
and
that's
not
money
that
we
can
utilize
for
General
operations
for
the
city
from
a
tax
digest
standpoint.
What
we've
seen
in
terms
of
year-over-year
collections,
actual
revenues
that
we've
collected
it's
about
two
percent,
and
that
is
what
is
included
in
the
budget
with
the
99
collection
rate.
M
B
I
mean
the
bills
in
all
likelihood
will
be
due
October
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
going
to
be
I,
think
it's
going
to
be
October
17th,
based
on
based
on
the
schedule
that
was
agreed
upon
by
the
tax
assessor
and
the
tax
commissioner.
So
October
17th
in
all
likelihood
is
when
we'll
see
receive
that
first
installment.
K
M
B
B
M
M
But
my
point
earlier
in
saying:
if
we,
if
we
revisit
this
at
mid-year,
possibly
we
would
have
more
funds
at
that
time
to
to
deal
with
them.
That
was
my
reason
of
voting.
No
on
the
first
two
items
you
can't
take
salaries
from
the
tax
from
the
from
the
reserves.
I
mean
it
just.
We
have
fundamentally
not
done
that
over
the
years
that
I've
been
on
Council
and
I,
the
city
manager
mentioned
it
with
the
former
budget
chair
Jack
Rogers.
We
just
you
just
don't
do
that.
M
That's
physically
unsound
advice,
so
I'm
I'm
just
saying
that
to
draw
attention
to
us
going
forward
with
this,
there
is
a
reason
that
we
wait
till
mid-year,
there's
a
reason
that
we
don't
fund
everything.
That's
asked
for.
We
have
we've
gone
from
70,
roughly
70
days
to
91
days
of
fund
balance.
If
we
adopt
everything,
that's
on
this
list
and
it
it's
we're
we're
moving
into
dangerous
territory
and
I
would
caution
counsel
in
taking
those
steps.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
J
J
J
A
K
A
B
A
B
M
L
It's
a
council
initiative
to
be
funded
through
the
clerk
of
council's
office.
In
other
words,
they'll
take
care
of
the
financial
request,
needs
there
and
that's
to
be
managed
out
of
the
internal
auditor's
office.
It's
dealing
with
the
hybrid
trash
system
now
to
really
take
a
close
look
at
it.
A
number
of
us
have
requested
a
cost
benefits
analysis.
That's
what
it
is.
It's
in
conjunction
with
CSU
and
and
their
professionals
overseeing
it.
L
Looking
at
taking
a
look,
so
we
can
get
a
real
clear
snapshot,
a
real,
clear
focus
at
what
we
need
to
do
with
the
challenges
in
the
future.
Quite
frankly,
and
it's
a
much
needed
document
to
provide
that
road
map,
it's
not
a
rate
comparison
study
or
anything
like
that.
It's
more
in
detail
on
that
one
component
and
understanding
helping
us
to
understand
the
future.
L
I
I
think
I
brought
this
up
initially
when
we
discussed
the
play
pay
plan
and
it
was
a
recommendation
to
increase
the
Integrated
Waste
feed
because
of
that
and
I
said
well,
you
know.
Maybe
we
need
to
take
a
closer
look
at
that.
First,
a
city
manager
agreed
to
that
we're
we're
at
where
we're
at
today
and
before
we
get
to
that
point,
which
is
the
next
budget
cycle,
where
we're
going
to
have
to
make
a
tough
decision.
L
I
think
getting
that
appropriate
study
in
our
hand,
will
give
us
understanding
and
not
only
that
it
provides
confidence
in
the
community
that
we've
done
our
due
diligence
and
making
sure
that
we
have
to
go.
Ask
them
that
is
going
to
cost
more
for
services
than
I
I
think
that
document
is
key
to
helping.
D
D
On
top
of
what
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
study
that
we
have
from
professional
Consultants,
but
we
are
going
to
bring
that
study
forward
and
then
and
then
there
will
I
know
the
name
CSU
was
mentioned,
but
there
was
a
ten
thousand
dollar
study.
We
have
a
procurement
process
that
requires
that
bids
or
RFP
or
quotes
to
be
taken
from
other
organizations.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
all
right
so.
A
M
I
One
of
the
reasons
is
I've
asked
over
and
over
and
over
again
that
we
we
compare,
you
know
we
keep
on
hearing
how
much
using
am
waste
is
costing
us
and
I've
asked
over
and
over
and
over
again.
How
much
are
we
saving?
Because
you
know
we
don't
have
you
know
we
don't
have
the
maintenance
of
the
equipment,
we
don't
have
the
Personnel.
We
you
know
there.
There
are
some
savings
of
us
using
am
waste.
Also
I've
never
received
that
answer.
I
I
B
G
But
to
clarify
it,
that's
not
comparing
two
different
options
of
one
is
M
way
versus
two,
not
Amway
and
showing
like
the
the.
If
you
have
MOA
here,
are
the
costs
are
foregoing
versus?
If
you
have,
the
two
different
options
is
seeing
that
different
cost
Memphis
analysis
of
what
is
your
pain,
the
one
up
before
I
brought
that
up
I
was
going
to
ask
if
we
haven't
seen
the
presentation
yet
I
know.
There's
a
previous
item.
We
said
hey.
Can
we
hunt
that
to
the
mid-year?
G
G
Well,
I
mean
I
think
we
should
see
it
because
the
100
000
study
made
it
may
answer
our
question.
So
I
don't
want
to
forego
this,
but
it'd
be
great
to
see
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
study
revisit
if
it
doesn't
answer
our
questions
and
then
address
this
mid-year.
If
we
still
have
open
questions,
okay,.
A
L
D
It
has
been
ready
and
the
only
reason
we've
delayed,
bringing
it
Forward,
because
we
were
doing
the
pace
study
and
it
was
going
to
cost.
We
were
taking
money
out
of
the
reserve
and
Integrated
Waste.
We
didn't
have
enough
money,
and
so
we
took
a
million
dollars
from
our
Reserve
fund
to
handle
the
Integrated
Waste
salary
adjustments.
D
Integrated
Waste
is
an
Enterprise
fund,
it
should
be
self-sufficient.
We
took
a
million
dollars
out
of
our
general
fund
Reserve
to
fund
the
waste
study.
Excuse
me
the
pay
study
in
Integrated
Waste,
and
we
committed
that
we
would
not
increase
rates
on
Integrated
Waste,
not
in
this
fiscal
year.
We
wait
until
2025
and
take
a
look
at
it.
So
we
just
we
delayed
bringing
it
forward
to
create
any
confusion,
but
we
can
bring
It
Forward
anytime.
It's
I
mean
the
the
it's
ready,
and
so
we
can
bring
it.
A
A
L
Anything
else
and
I
just
want
to
add
to
it.
It's
my
understanding
that
this
study,
great
comparison,
studies
been
done
many
years
ago.
It's
just
never
gotten
to
us,
but
all
of
a
sudden,
you
know
we
we
go
through
this
all
the
time
we
have
never
broken
it
down.
We
look
at
the
revenue,
expenditures
and.
L
Bit
of
Revenue
collection,
then
we
just
say
we
got
to
go
up
on
the
fee.
We
really
need
to
understand
this
and
it's
not
the
whole
there's
a
whole
other
side
of
this.
This
is
what
we
just
came
out
of
dealing
with
the
problem
in
the
Integrated
Waste
fee
with
the
trash
collection
which
we're
running
a
hybrid
system
now,
and
it's
working
really
well,
and
we
are
talking
about
going
back
and
doing
it
in-house
again,
but
you
know
there
even
maybe
a
third
option
here
in
knowing
what
type
of
funds
it
takes
to
independently.
L
B
L
B
G
Remember
I'm
new!
So
if,
if
it
is,
we
can
start
the
RFP
process
without
committing
any
money,
yet
so
that
starting
mid-year,
we're
ready
to
start
mid-year
because
we
already
have
the
rfps
and
we
just
haven't,
spent
the
money.
Yet
to
me
that
seems
ideal
as
long
as
we
can
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
RFP
process,.
L
Let
me
just
midterm
analogy
of
the
language.
Let
me
just
say:
look
you
got
to
go
through.
The
rnp
is
going
to
take
some
time.
Those
things
take
time,
the
study's
going
to
take
some
time.
The
invoicing
is
going
to
come
at
a
later
period.
Okay,
it's
not
like
you're
paying
the
money
up
front,
it's
probably
going
to
be
after
midterm.
You
just
need
to
get
it
line.
Item
budget
it
whether
you
do
it
then
or
you
do
it
now.
L
It
really
doesn't
matter
because
it's
going
to
take
well,
it
does
matter
because
you've
got
to
initiate
the
work
and
get
it
going
and
it
could
take
six
months
and
I.
Don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
I
need
this
information
before
we
get
into
the
budget
cycle
which
starts
in
what
February
March
I
mean.
That's
what
I
ideally
like
to
do
it
so
personally,
I
can
start
prepping.
My
constituents
for
possible
challenges.
L
I
just
need
to
know
that
I've
got
some
good
understanding
or
I'm
just
going
to
go
back
and
say
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
wants
to
raise
your
garbage
fees.
I
mean
I
need
something
solid
that
that
helps
me.
I,
don't
want
to
have
to
do
that
and
that's
when
the
politics
get
in.
This
is
not
about
politics.
This
is
having
the
facts.
L
A
B
Next
item
on
the
list
is
a
request
that
was
added
by
well.
Actually,
all
of
these
for
Council
Davis
for
the
District
Attorney's
office.
This
was
from
the
May
9th
meeting
I'm.
The
first
item
for
the
District
Attorney's
office
is
to
add
two
investigator
one
positions.
These
are
g120
positions,
the
cost
the
recurring
cost,
for
that
is
one
hundred
ten
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifty
two
dollars,
and
it
would
utilize
0.18
Reserve
days
if
Reserve
funds
are
used.
I
A
I
Can
I
make
a
comment
before
we
sure
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment
on
the
on
all
of
these
items
from
the
District
Attorney's
office.
I
spoke
with
the
district
attorney
yesterday
after
the
fop
memorial
service
and
he
has
lost
one
of
his
assistant
DA's
to
a
state
agency
and
so
I
believe
that
would
cover
all
of
the
all
of
these
items
in
salary
savings.
B
B
D
D
D
Position
well,
I,
I
guess.
My
point
is:
if
there's
a
vacant
position
he's
probably
if
it's
a
state
position
he's
going
to
advertise
affiliate.
If
and
we
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
that,
if
it's
a
local
assistant
D.A,
then
he's
going
to
advertise
it
and
I
said
it
takes
him
six
weeks
to
fill
it,
then
you
would
have
six
weeks
of
salary
Savings
in
this
fiscal
year.
This
is
for
next
fiscal
year,
so
there
would
be
no
salary
savings
because
he's
going
to
fill
the
position.
D
I
B
A
B
Okay,
no
it's
from
his
budget
going
back
to
reserves,
all
right
item,
14.,
item
number,
14
and
I
also
approved
it
made
a
place
on
the
list
at
the
May
9th
meeting
by
Council
craft
for
the
Superior
Court
judges.
This
is
the
increased
contractual
Services
relative
to
the
rapid
resolution
program.
It
was
a
cost
at
sixteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
if
taken
from
reserves,
it'll
be
point
zero.
Three
days,
that's
utilized.
B
Next
item
on
the
list
was,
for
the
day
my
May
9th
meeting
placed
on
the
list
by
Council
Crabb
for
the
Superior
Court
judges.
This
is
to
increase
the
Professional
Services
line
for
all
Superior
Court
judges
at
eight
thousand
dollars
each
for
a
total
of
fifty
six
thousand
dollars.
If
taken
from
reserves,
it
would
be
point
zero.
Nine
days,
that's
utilize.
A
A
B
B
The
amount
that
was
requested
by
the
judge
was
to
provide
eight
thousand
dollars
in
office
supplies
for
all
the
judges.
That
amount
is
actually
thirteen
thousand
four
hundred
dollars.
That's
needed
to
provide
them
with
eight
thousand
dollars
for
office
supplies
for
all
seven
Superior,
Court
judges
that
would
utilize
.02
Reserve
days
if
reserves
are
used.
A
A
B
Item
number
19
from
the
May
9th
meeting
place
on
the
list
by
councilor
Crabb
for
the
Superior
Court
judges.
This
too
is
this
is
to
increase
the
Muscogee
County
supplement
for
the
circuit-wide
court
administrator
from
ten
thousand
dollars
to
twenty
thousand
dollars.
The
additional
cost
would
be
ten
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
five
dollars
utilizing
point
zero:
two
Reserve
days.
If
reserves
are
used.
B
A
U
U
B
So
the
amended
amount
for
item
number:
oh
yeah
20..
This
is
not
to
provide
a
five
percent
increase
for
all
of
the
contract.
State
Attorneys.
This
is
to
provide
a
four
thousand
dollar
increase
for
all
of
the
state
attorneys
that
we
pay
on
the
contract
for
the
public
defender's
office.
The
revised
amount
is
twenty
four
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
for
item
number
20.,
and
that
would
utilize.
B
B
And
then
22
would
be
the
reclassification
of
a
legal
admin
clerk
g15
to
an
administrative
coordinator
g17.
That
is
a
position
that
exists
within
our
current
classification
plan
on
the
cost
of
that
reclassification
would
be
two
thousand
905
dollars
and
it
basically
is
not
no
real
usage
of
reserves.
It
balances
out
to
be
zero
usage
of
days.
Okay,.
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
city
of
Columbus
and
to
the
county
of
Muskogee,
and
all
you
have
done
throughout
your
career
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
on
the
straight
and
narrow,
and
we
wish
you
a
very
joyful
if
you
will
retirement
don't
clean
out.
The
garage
first
thing
go
on
a
trip
first
thing
and
then
come
back
and
clean
out
the
garage.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
service
and
Steve
don't
forget
to
tag
me.
I
I
A
B
B
M
A
B
Ma'am
item
number
23
is
to
add
one
full-time
assistant
chief
Deputy
clerk
grade
122
at
60
386
on
this
item
number
24
is
to
add
one
finance
manager
grade
121
at
57,
820
and
then
item
number
25
is
to
add
two
additional
Deputy
clerk,
two
positions:
g115
at
a
cost
of
93
346
dollars
for
a
total
utilization
of
0.36
Reserve
days.
If
reserves
are.
A
B
L
We
go
yes,
ma'am
I
I,
you
know
I'm,
not
anticipating
this
much
to
be
used,
but
I
think
the
citizens
are
asking
for
it.
We've
had
several
conversations
about
this,
I
mean
I,
don't
think
I
need
to
further
explain
it,
but
it's
investing
back
into
our
assets
that
we
have
where
the
children
are
where,
where
people
are
utilizing
every
day
and
we've
got
our
volunteers
out
there
and
we're
supporting
them,
and
this
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
encouragement.
L
I
think
that'll
go
a
long
way
and
and
I
I,
don't
you
know
it's
kind
of
somewhat
experimental,
but
it's
I
I
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
I'm
parks
and
mix
I
I.
Don't
have
any
doubt
that
parks
and
recs
can't
manage
this
appropriately
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
start
in
heading
in
the
right
direction.
I
A
L
What
item
it's
a
line
item?
That's
there,
but
there's
got
to
be
appropriate
documentation
that
comes
from
these
volunteer
entities.
Councilor
island
has
knows
what
I'm
talking
about.
There's
a
number
right
people
at
Northern
that
put
their
own
dollars
in
it
they're
putting
they're
doing
it,
they're
just
doing
it
to
get
it
done.
They
got
to
get
it
done
because
they
don't
have
time
you.
You
heard
the
presentation,
we're
short.
I
D
L
Let
me
clarify
it
again:
I
think
I've
talked
about
it.
It's
for
on
the
field,
use
only
it's
the
surfaces
that
these
kids
are
playing
on,
where
the
parents
are
having
to
go
out
there
and
put
grass
in
put
clay
in
put
dry
clay
dry
in
put
stuff
with
the
football
fields
in
order
for
the
kids
to
play
and
that
their
safety
is
valued.
It's
not
for
infrastructure
outside
okay,.
L
D
So
so,
if
they
can
afford
to
do
it,
let's
say
at
some
Monroe,
but
they
can't
afford
to
do
it
at
Shirley
Winston
can
that
six
hundred
thousand
can
Parks
and
Rec
use
that
600
000
to
say?
Okay,
they
did
this
over
it
Salmon
Road
and
someone
were.
They
were
benevolent
enough
to
pay
it
out
of
their
pocket,
so
we'll
reimburse
them
well
so
that
that
field
doesn't
look
like
has
that
that
field
won't
have
astro
turf
and
down
at
Shirley
Winston
they're
playing
in
dirt.
L
Mr
Amanda,
it's
where
we
we
have
these
volunteer
groups
that
are
running
Sports
programs
for
our
kids
in
designates
designated
Parks,
okay,
okay,
it's
where
these
kids
are
actively
involved.
I,
don't
know
the
scenario
that
you're
putting
out
there
I
understand
it,
but
it's
night
and
day
what
what
we're
talking
about
here,
but
if
they
were
to
bring
an
appropriate
invoice,
you
know
I,
think
I
use
the
term.
The
reason
I
got
to
this
because
it
was
somewhat
embarrassing
that
we
can't
keep
up
and
maintain
and
put
the
capital
into
these
Parks.
M
L
A
L
A
This
it,
then,
would
be
up
to
your
department
and
working,
probably
through
director
Browder,
to
set
the
the
regulations.
You
know
this
is
what
we
will
pay
that
we
you
know
this
is
what
you
have
to
do
to
get
repaid.
It's.
It's
not
just
bring
us
an
invoice.
It's
a
set
of
regulations
that
we
would
need
well.
D
D
L
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
say:
it's
designating
a
fundsman
city
manager,
I
think
I
talked
to
earlier
that
the
director
I've
had
a
talk
with
the
director
and
she
said,
they're
quite
capable
of
managing
the
program,
and
if
your
office
wants
to
be
involved,
I'm
sure
y'all
can
come
up
with
a
criteria.
That's
appropriate,
but
the
whole
purpose
is
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
our
infrastructure
where
these
kids
playing
in
adequate
Condition.
It's
not
there
right
now.
We
need
to
invest
in
it
well
and.
A
T
T
We
did
it
all
the
time
at
Fort
at
Fort,
Benning,
and
so
you
know,
there's
a
purchase
request
that
is
submitted
to
Parks
and
Rec
or
or
to
the
city
manager's
office,
but
likely
Parks
and
Rec
that's
approved
and
under
a
certain
dollar
limit
and
and
allocated
to
certain
fields
and
certain
certain
zones
and
I
I
mean
that
can
all
be
figured
out
ahead
of
time.
I
think
we
just
move
forward
with
the
the
six
hundred
thousand
I
mean
you.
T
You
heard
at
Council
a
couple
months
ago
that
they're
they're
out
there
doing
it
anyway,
and
it
is
to
Glenn's
point.
It
is
embarrassing
for
the
for
the
families
and
and
the
players
out
at
brigdon,
Park
or
out
at
Shirley,
Winston
or
lake
Bottom,
to
be
out
there
painting
their
their
own,
their
own
goal
posts
and
and
I
realize
that
we're
understaffed.
But
this
is
a
way
that
that
we
can
get
the.
C
C
Once
we
got
a
field
to
where
it
was
almost
dangerous,
where
there
was
a
lip
on
the
Outfield
or
something
like
that,
they
always
stepped
up
and
helped
us
go
regrade
it
and
redo
it,
but
I
think
to
ensure
that
that
capability
remains
putting
some
money.
Aside
is
not
a
problem.
I
think.
What
alarmed
me
is
the
same
thing
that
I
think
alarmed
the
city
manager,
and
that
is
when
it
was
first
brought
up.
C
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
to
kind
of
offer
some
contacts
I
was
served
on
the
board
at
Pioneer
little
league
for
10
years.
I
was
President
for
two
years,
I
served
in
every
capacity.
All
the
way
up
to
president
so
I
understand
what
councilor
Davis
is
saying.
However,
if
we're
going
to
get
involved
in
this
we're
going
to
step
in
this
direction,
let's
do
it.
M
Let's,
let's
have
a
test
run,
let's
put
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
there
and
see
how
far
that
goes,
and
then
next
year
we
can
or
mid-year
you
know
we
can.
We
can
always
make
some
changes,
but
you
know
instead
of
just
going
Full
Tilt
with
this
with
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
think
that's
a
little
heavy
this
year,
especially
in
light
of
the
budget
situation
that
we're
in
so
so
I
I
mean
we
did
all
the
work
ourselves,
but
I
just
felt
like
that
that
that
this
was
this
is
a
big
step.
M
L
Yes,
Mr
Mayor
that
what
you
talked
about
I,
don't
envision,
that
level
of
of
improvements
of
laser
grade
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
This
is
more
minor
stuff
and
you
know
I'm
thinking
about
it.
If
the
entities
come
to
y'all
and
bring
it
to
you,
it's
funding
for
parks
and
recs
to
be
able
to
do
it
right
now.
They
right,
they
don't
have
the
funding.
L
Okay,
they
don't
have
the
funding,
so
maybe
the
appropriate
way
to
set
up
this
effort
is
not
for
them
to
bring
an
invoice,
but
maybe
let
them
come
to
parks
and
recs
get
the
approval
first
and
if
they
want
to
go,
do
it
that's
fine
and
then
we'll
reimburse
them
once
we
inspect
it.
That
may
be
appropriate,
but
I
don't
Envision
like
major
infrastructure
improvements.
This
is
just
stuff
that
the
parents
are
getting
out
there
doing
day
in
and
day
out
and
and
I,
don't
mind.
L
I'll
I'm,
okay
to
get
the
program
started
with
a
hundred
I
look
at
the
600,
even
if
we
didn't
use
it
all,
it
would
be
there
to
replenish
the
next
cycle
and
the
next
cycle
and
the
next
cycle,
or
we
can
add
to
it-
I,
don't
it's
okay
with
me,
but
the
point
is
we
need
to
help
and
we
need
to
work
with
them.
I
think
this
is
a
great
way
to
invest
in
and
put
money
back
in
the
community.
L
L
A
Okay,
the
amendment,
then
the
motion
before
you
is
an
amendment
to
amend
this
item
to
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment.
Please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Okay,
there
was
one
day
the
this
then
becomes
the
main
motion.
All
those
in
favor
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
say
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries.
A
B
They're
not
in
the
general
fund.
Oh
there,
they
are.
Yes,
ma'am
go
ahead,
so
the
next
item
on
the
list
is
for
Bull
Creek
Golf.
This
is
placed
on
the
list
today
by
Council
crab.
This
is
a
budget
neutral
request
to
delete
the
funds
for
God
Godwin
Creek
to
delete
a
part-time
maintenance
interim
position
that
was
added
in
the
budget
in
addition
to
other
operating
expenses,
I'm,
making
a
reduction
there
to
fund
one
full-time
marketing
manager
at
fifty
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
and
eighty
dollars.
A
B
I
didn't
have
no
It
Whatever
to
the
tax
commissioner.
Yes
ma'am
item
number
27.
our
number
27
placed
on
the
list
today
by
Council
Crabb
for
the
tax
commissioner.
This
particular
item
is
to
add
One
Financial
Analyst
at
a
GE
123
step
three
for
sixty
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
Seventeen
dollars,
utilizing
point
one
one
or
Point
eleven
Reserve
days.
If
you
reserves
are
used.
A
B
G
As
a
one-time,
I
know
from
our
experience,
if
we're
implementing
Salesforce,
we
get
a
Salesforce
expert
for
implementing
HubSpot,
we
get
a
HubSpot
expert.
Finding
a
journalist
analyst,
that's
not
going
to
know
best
practices
they're,
not
going
to
know
the
tool.
I
I'd
love
to
see
this
as
a
resubmitted.
As
a
one-time.
Let's
get
this
up
and
running
and
the
next
year
she
comes
back
and
can
articulate.
This
is
what
we
still
need
on
an
ongoing
basis.
Listen
to
it
at
that
time.
B
You
can
delay
well,
not
approve
this
obviously
and
allow
staff
to
get
with
Tyler
to
come
up
with
the
scope
of
work
in
terms
of
what
all
the
reporting
needs
that
the
tax
commissioner
needs
I'm,
sure
they'll
scope
it
out
and
give
us
a
pricing.
And
then
we
would,
you
know,
have
that
information
to
give
to
you
in
terms
of
what
the
cost
would
be
or.
G
I'm
fine
with
that
I'm
also
fine
if
they
wanted
to
reposition
it
for
this.
This
budget
cycle,
because
I
I
do
think
it's
important
I
I,
don't
like
that.
There's
such
a
big
backlog
of
auctions,
because
I
do
think
that
contributes
to
the
number
of
abandoned
houses
in
Columbus
and
so
I
want
to
give
them
more
resources.
So
they
can
address
that
backlog
and
so
the
sooner
the
better
I.
B
All
the
time
is
a
lot
of
times,
I'm
waiting
on
reports
for
year-end
purposes,
for
audit
purposes
for
Budget
purposes,
and
them
not
having
that
I
think
that
she
was
just
trying
to
feel
that
void
for
the
person
that
she
had,
because
the
person
that
left
was
the
person
that
was
in
place
when
the
system
was
being
designed
and
built.
You
know
for
their
usage,
so
I
think
she's
just
trying
to
fill
a
void
with
that,
but
I
mean
I
whatever
you
want
to
do.
G
D
And
what
I
would
recommend
is
that
you
consider
placing
the
dollars
since
it's
a
one-time
deal
and
we
rely
heavily
on
Information
Technology.
You
could
place
it
as
a
line
item
in
the
I.T
budget
and
and
then
that
them
with
their
technology,
background
expertise,
identify
hire
that
person
to
do
that
work
and
then
it's
a
one-time
expense.
But
it's
it's
house
in
Information
Technology,
because
it
deals
with
technology.
So
so.
A
A
I
A
B
So
the
item
for
number
30
placed
on
the
agenda
list
today
by
Council
crowd
for
the
police
department.
This
is
a
budget
neutral
request,
deleting
17
police,
cadet
positions
and
adding
two
administrative
tech.
One
audio
visual,
take
two
crime:
analysts,
one
computer,
forensic
analyst
for
real-time
crime,
Center
technicians
and
three
crime
scene,
three
crime,
scene
investigators
and
an
operating
budget
increase
of
fifty
thousand
seven
hundred
and
two
dollars.
A
C
Had
a
budget
butcher,
if
I
may
I
just
wanted
to
point
out,
I
I,
don't
know
if
we're
keeping
a
list
in
finance
of
items
to
reconsider
at
mid-year,
I'd
like
to
put
some
of
those
Cadets
on
to
at
least
be
Revisited.
I
I
really
believe
that
as
we
get
back
into
the
new
school
year,
we
may
see
some
movement
in
bringing
on
some
of
those
young
folks
and
there
that's
an
excellent
pipeline
to
allow
them
to
learn
a
little
bit
and
nurture
their
desire
for
public
service
and
maybe
stick
around
and
become
full-time
officers.
A
A
B
Yes,
ma'am
so
item
31
is
placed
on
the
list
by
councilor
Garrett
for
the
internal
audit
Department.
This
is
to
add
one
car
allowance
for
the
internal
auditor
that
comes
at
a
cost
of
eight
thousand
three
hundred
and
seventy
six
dollars
utilizing
point
zero
one
Reserve
days
if
reserves
are
used
item
32,
is
to
add
one
full-time,
forensic
auditor.
This
is
the
effect
of
January
of
2024..
B
This
is
comes
at
a
half
cost
of
thirty
six
thousand
nine
hundred
and
forty
four
dollars
utilizing
point
zero.
Six
Reserve
days
if
reserves
are
used,
the
item
number
33
is
to
add
software
lease
for
the
funding
for
the
whisklore
hotline.
That's
three
thousand
dollars
utilizing
point
zero
one
Reserve
days
if
preserves
are
used.
Then.
Finally,
item
number
34
is
increase
in
the
Education
and
Training
line
item
at
four
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
twenty
seven
dollars
utilizing
point
zero
one
Reserve
days
if
we're
using
Reserves.
B
Sign
35
was
added
to
the
list
today
by
councilor
Garrett
for
Parks
and
Recreation.
This
is
at
one
zero
turn
more
at
the
cost
of
9118.
This
is
a
one-time,
non-recurrent
expense.
Utilizing
point
zero
two
Reserve
days
on
the
item.
Number
36
is
also
on
the
list
per
counselor
Garrett
for
Parks
and
Recreation.
This
is
adding
one
full-time
part:
maintenance,
worker,
one
G,
114
and
two
part-time
part
maintenance
worker.
One
is
also
G14
on
the
calls
for
those
three
positions
is
96
606,
utilizing
0.16
Reserve
days.
If
reserves
are
used.
K
S
T
S
M
I
think
that
there
are
for
school
boards.
There
are
other
sources
that
we
can
try
to
work
with
on
getting
those
installed.
I
know
when
years
ago,
when
we
were
involved
in
little
league
as
well
mayor
mentioned
earlier,
Coca-Cola
would
donate
the
school
board
as
long
as
you
use
their
products
so
I
know,
and
to
add
to
the
list.
I
know:
Northern
Little
League
out
there
at
Solomon
Road.
A
K
K
C
C
K
M
K
A
M
I
Is
in
what
something
that
I
asked
Holly
specifically
was:
were
these
items
put
in
order
of
priority
and
we're
asking
for
three
items
on
the
last
page
when
there
are
items
on
this
first
page
that
she
says
she
really
needs.
This
is
the
higher
priority
and
we're
we're
specifically
asking
for
something.
That's
lower
priority.
A
I
I
mean
I,
don't
mind
sitting
aside
a
certain
amount
of
money
and
letting
Holly
decide.
I,
don't
want
to
micromanage
her
choices,
but
she
knows
what
she
needs
in
order
to
do
her
job,
so
I'd
almost
rather
say:
let's
give
her
500k
to
use.
You
know
the
way
she
sees
fit
in
order
to
get
the
most
money.
You
know
the
most
out
of
that
amount
of
money.
B
B
A
S
L
L
J
B
L
I,
like
the
finance
directors
kind
of
way
about
going,
this
I
would
really
like
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
get
some
matching
funds
through
some
foundations,
a
Community
Foundation,
some
of
our
foundations,
councilor
Allen,
said
maybe
some
of
our
really
supportive
corporations.
They
they
have
like
this
stuff
in
the
past.
Maybe
they
don't
do
it
anymore,
but
I
I
see
this
as
a
possibility,
so
we
don't
have
to
totally
utilize
all
those
funds
and
I
I
would
like
to
explore
that
I.
L
D
L
J
Counselor
Allen's
idea
is
very
good,
but
we
could
also
do
the
same
thing.
If
we
installed
the
scoreboards,
we
could
sell
the
advertising
space
ourselves.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
would
actually
pay
for
it.
I
would
I
would
pay
for
a
huge
ad
up
there,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
that
we
could
also
sell
it
ourselves
as
a
city.
A
B
M
A
G
G
I
know
he
had
submitted
it
before
discussing
it,
but
I
I
would
like
to
get
that
to
the
atlas.
The
20
flock
cameras
is
55,
000,
one-time
cost
and
the
sheriff's
department
can
deploy
those
throughout
the
city
both
to
read
the
license
plate.
So
they
can
investigate
After,
Crime
and
also
identify
taxi
warrants.
B
Oh
I
do
know
that
the
flock
cameras
are
not
a
one-time
cost.
S.
I
do
believe
that
was
that
was
part
of
the
discussion
that
we
had
with
the
police
department
yesterday
in
terms
of
the
flock
cameras
and
they're
actually
going
up
on
the
annual
maintenance
for
those
So
based
on
per
asset,
that
you
have
it's
going
from
2500
to
3
000
for
next
year.
So
it
is
an
annual
cost
for
the
cameras.
K
L
Yeah
councilor
Begley.
This
may
help
you
out
a
little
bit
but
mayor
city
manager,
something's
going
on
in
Atlanta,
okay,
where
I
think
the
state
is
getting
involved
in
initiative.
I
had
a
constituent
call
me
yesterday
about
the
availability
now
and
and
possibly,
funding
and
grant
funding
that
you
can
submit
and
for
these
flock
cameras,
tag
readers,
a
new,
state-of-the-art
technology.
I
know
we
used
to.
We
used
to
think
that
cameras,
video
cameras
and
recording
all
that
was,
but
now
it
seems
like
it's
Advanced
into
this
area,
but
there's
something
going
on.
L
There's
articles
I,
just
read
another
article
in
AJC
today
about
the
state
getting
involved,
initiative
and
now
doing
grants.
There's
grants
out
there
available
that
you
can
apply
to
get
these
cameras.
I
may
be
wrong,
but
this
is
what
I'm
hearing,
but
it
is
I
do
know
it's.
If
citizens
want
to
purchase
these
cameras
they
can.
They
came
in
for
three
I
think
right
now
it's
three
thousand
dollars
annually
and-
and
they
can
be
placed
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
we're
disagreeing
with
where
they
can
be
placed.
L
But
I
know
with
the
cameras.
There
was
a
lot
of
issues
with
the
video
cameras
and
all,
but
these
Tech
readers
are
totally
totally
different.
So
if
citizens
want
to
get
involved,
but
also
these
grants
that
are
out
there
now,
it
may
be
an
opportunity
for
our
community
mayor
I,
don't
know-
maybe
you
know
about
this.
No.
C
Actually,
I'm
not
aware
of
the
grant
program,
but
I'll
I'll
check
on
it,
we'll
we'll
talk
to
to
our
Public
Safety
folks,
because
I'm
sure
they'll,
know
and
and
I
do
know
that
the
governor
and
the
Attorney
General
have
been
extremely
bullish
on
anti-gang
efforts
to
include
technology.
I
know,
I
saw
the
same
article.
C
You
saw
I
think
this
morning
at
the
AJC,
but
I
do
know
too
that,
while
we
don't
want
public
or
even
a
lot
of
our
employees,
knowing
where
every
camera
is
because
some
of
it,
you
know,
relies
on
stealth.
There
is
a
comprehensive
camera
program
to
integrate
the
pro.
The
cameras
that
we're
utilizing
from
the
general
government
to
make
sure
that
that
coverage
is
right.
L
And
I'm
glad
you
said
that,
because
that
is
true
now
with
the
technology
I,
think
that
even
if
the
citizens
won't
invest
and
do
this
in
their
communities
and
neighborhoods,
they
can
integrate,
integrate
it
into
CPD
and
works
with
our
Police
Department.
So
now
it's
like
everybody's
working
together
on
this.
You
know
it's
just
people
are
willing
to
contribute
to
make
it
make
it
happen
so
anyway,
thank
you.
U
Here
he's
here
cited
energized
because
of
what
the
city's
partnership
and
what
the
city
is
doing
for
the
Liberty
Theater
I've
had
some
individuals
I
wanted
to
meet
with
them,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
is
is
something
like
that
and
I.
Don't
know
what
that
would
be,
what
the
what's
the
cost
of
something
like
that
would
be,
but
say
that.
D
Yeah
yeah,
as
as
we
do
the
renovation,
obviously
the
Liberty.
Excuse
me,
the
representer
has
one.
The
three
Arts
has
that
new
and
then
the
Civic
Center
has
a
new
win.
So
we
do
need
an
electronic
message
board
for
the
Liberty
Theater,
similar
to
what
they
have
at,
let's
say
the
Springer
or
or
the
Civic
Center,
but.
A
A
A
C
I
apologize
for
forgetting
it
earlier
when
the
police
were
here,
we've
been
talking
to
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
and
there's
a
desire
to
get
the
Crime
Stoppers
program
up
and
running
again.
We
already
have
a
board:
that's
currently
being
formed
they're
going
to
be
working
with
the
police,
Command
Staff,
as
well
as
with
the
chamber,
to
try
to
generate
funds,
but
they
are
requesting
that
we
do
a
some
seed
money
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.