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A
Good
afternoon
we
are
ready
to
begin
the
budget
review
meeting.
We
I
will
say
to
the
folks
that
are
here
for
the
meeting.
We
are
on
a
very
tight
schedule
as
usual
and
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
keep
us
on
schedule
and
keep
us
moving
ahead
so
that
we're
not
here
until
like
Wednesday
night
instead
of
Tuesday
night,
but
given
that
well
I
will
turn
it
over
to
our
finance
director.
Miss
Alexander
to
get
us
started.
Miss
Alexander.
B
So
what
you
have
provided
today,
what
we've
provided
today
is
a
revised
copy
or
the
latest
version
of
our
delete
list.
The
last
budget
review
session
that
will
be
held
will
be
May
the
21st,
and
that
is
when
these
items
that
are
listed
on
the
ad
placed
or
listed
on
the
ad
delete
list
will
be
voted
on
a
couple
of
things.
B
I
want
to
mention
regarding
the
ad
delete
list
on
the
very
first
page
and
reference
to
the
general
fund,
and
you
can
see
all
of
the
additions
and/or
any
corresponding
deletions
and
thus
far
the
impact
to
the
John
phone
is
a
reduction
of
0.75
days.
So
well,
as
we
started
out
with
our
estimate
projection
of
69
point
one
two
days
for
FY
2016
8
point
three:
seven
days.
B
C
C
The
PowerPoint,
well,
let
me
just
go
over
the
first
one.
Here,
that's
not
up
there.
It
says
the
sheriff's
office
during
our
budget
season
identified
30
vehicles
in
our
2020
capital
outlay
turn
in
form.
Each
vehicle
met
the
criteria
either
by
age
or
by
mileage,
and
due
to
that,
we
requested
25
vehicles.
C
In
the
mayor's
recommended
budget,
we
were
approved
for
ten
vehicles
to
be
purchased
through
a
GM,
a
lease.
We
are
here
today
to
request
15
additional
vehicles,
as
as,
oh,
my
goodness
I'm
going
to
try
to
my
printouts
off
I
got
you
oh
boy,
all
right,
all
right,
well,
I'm,
not
sure
what
happened
to
the
printout
that
I
sent
but
I'm
going
to
stay
with
this.
We
have
five
vehicles
that
we
have
had
over
the
year
that
were
involved
in
accidents
and
have
not
been
replaced
or
were
deadlines
for
maintenance
issued.
C
Additionally,
we
have
replaced
five
engines,
and/or
transmissions
and
vehicles.
You
don't
have
this,
but
it
should
be
in
your
slides
and
in
the
handouts
that
I
gave
you
not
sure
why
the
powerpoints
not
corresponding,
but
we
also
have
our
sixth
vehicle
in
the
shop.
That
is
in
need
of
an
engine
at
the
estimated
cost
of
six
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
So
today
we
have
spent
an
estimated
thirty
seven
thousand
dollars
in
maintenance
on
just
engines
and
transmissions.
I
know
that
this
council
has
had
lots
of
presentations
before
them
about
our
aging
fleet.
C
So
this
year
we
have
exhausted
our
maintenance
budget.
Just
trying
to
keep
running
this
aging
fleet
of
the
ten
approved
vehicles.
Five
will
replace
the
vehicles
that
have
been
salvaged
and
not
replaced
we're
indeed
we're
in
need
of
an
additional
11
mark
vehicles
to
replace
vehicles
that
we
have
there,
either
in
the
from
the
2004
to
2008
range.
It
should
be
noted.
Counsel
should
know
that
we
only
have
three
marked
vehicles
that
are
2018
everything
before
that
is
a
2013
and
below
so
we
do
not
have
a
new
fleet.
C
Hopefully
this
next
slide
will
correspond
so
we're
requesting
the
purchase
of
those
11
vehicles.
We
also
are
requesting
the
purchase
of
four
Chevrolet
Tahoes.
One
of
those
is
needed
to
replace
one
of
those
salvage
vehicles
that
has
not
been
replaced
and
three
others
meet
the
age
and
mileage
criteria.
All
our
2011
and
2012
models
with
these
replacements,
we
conduct
detail
one
of
these
vehicles
for
mental
health
transports
for
2018,
the
Muskoka
County
Sheriff's,
Office
transported.
C
1325
mental
health
patients
both
locally
and
across
the
state
and
because
of
our
aging
fleet,
we
have
had
breakdowns
during
these
transports.
We've
also
had
breakdowns
and
other
vehicles
used
for
transporting
across
the
state
and
some
of
our
other
vehicles.
We've
had
to
send
other
vehicles
to
pick
up
prisoners
where
our
fleet
has
been
broken
down
somewhere.
So
our
big
thing
this
year
is,
we
desperately
need
some
vehicles,
the
average
price
tag,
just
by
way
of
information
for
a
Dodge
Charger
with
technology
packages,
approximately
fifty
three
thousand
two
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars
a
vehicle.
C
We
we
have
gone
out
and
got
a
grant
that
will
provide
computers
and
a
record
management
systems
to
these
vehicles
at
a
cost
savings
of
two
thousand
six
hundred
eleven
dollars
per
vehicle.
The
grant
would
fund
for
that,
and
we
believe
that
if
these
11
marked
vehicles
are
bought
through
that
GM
a
lease
agreement,
the
upfront
cost
should
be
significantly
lower,
but
I
do
not
have
a
dollar
amount
for
that.
C
The
next
part
of
this
presentation
is,
as
has
been
outlined
by
human
resource
director.
We
have
critical
job
vacancies
for
correctional
officers
and
deputy
sheriff's.
As
of
the
date
of
preparing
this
PowerPoint
slide,
we
have
34
vacancies
and
I
want
to
say
here
that
I
do
appreciate
the
raises
in
the
mayor's
upcoming
recommended
budget
and
I
also
appreciate
this
council's
willingness
to
to
address
pay
and
to
begin
to
address
pay
retention
and
compression
with
the
milestone
increases.
C
C
Over
the
years,
we
have
employed
different
strategies
for
recruitment
and
retention
for
public
safety
officers,
and
one
of
those
strategies
has
been
to
increase
the
starting
pay
for
our
sworn
officers,
and
this
has
now
created
pay
compression
and
pay
disparity
throughout
the
ranks
and
from
agency
to
agency.
I
recently
had
a
lieutenant
with
18
years
of
service
to
retire
with
a
salary
of
$42,000
and
the
starting
salary.
Today,
for
a
deputy
sheriff
with
an
associate
degree,
is
forty
thousand
five
hundred
and
eighty
seven
dollars.
C
So
all
of
our
temps,
which
are
appreciated
again
they're,
just
creating
a
huge
pay
compression
within
the
agencies,
and
it
makes
it
therefore
more
difficult
to
retain
qualified
officers.
In
our
last
budget.
We
address
pay
up
through
the
rank
of
Corporal
for
the
Muskoka
County
Sheriff's
Office
and,
as
of
today,
the
starting
pay
for
a
deputy
sheriff
is
still
2.5%
below
that
of
the
starting
pay
for
a
columbus
police
officer.
C
The
reason
that
I
went
through
the
Corporal
in
my
last
budget
was
to
begin
to
address
compression
and
to
combat
from
compression
for
every
sergeant
lieutenant
captain
in
the
Muskoka
County
Sheriff's
Office
of
2.5
pay
raise
for
those
50
people
would
cost
us
approximately
68,000
dollars.
In
this
past
year.
We
have
lost,
not
buy
anything
but
retirement.
C
Numerous
people
of
rank
throughout
the
Muscogee
County
Sheriff's
Office
law
enforcement,
is
there
retiring
and
and
and
that's
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
facing,
but
for
$68,000
I
can
continue,
rather
than
to
ask
to
come
back
in
here
and
ask
you
to
increase
starting
pay
again.
I
would
prefer
to
address
the
compression
issue.
C
We
have
38
I'm,
sorry,
34
job
openings
and
with
the
pin
the
retirements
that
we
have
had
and
those
in
the
future.
For
this
year
our
budget
could
ease
absorbed
that
$68,000
cost.
However,
the
major
point
that
I
think
I
need
to
make
here
today
is
that
a
comprehensive
public
safety
analysis
to
address
pay
compression
and
the
duties
of
each
law
enforcement
agency
in
Muskogee
County
is
what's
needed.
We
have
not
had
a
pay
plan
or
analysis
in
over
ten
years.
C
D
C
E
C
All
right,
thank
you.
This
part
right
here
says
additionally,
with
the
current
marshal
not
seeking
re-election.
The
consolidation
of
the
Marshall's
office
into
the
sheriff's
office
may
be
an
issue
for
the
2020
ballot
box.
I
do
believe
this
initiative
would
save
taxpayers
money
and
it
would
increase
City
revenues
and
added
court
fees.
All
14
to
17
current
employees
could
continuing
their
current
roles
as
sworn
officers
and
would
have
the
authority
to
serve
all
court
processes.
C
Currently,
my
understanding
is
that
the
marshal's
office
is
an
arm
of
the
Municipal
Court,
whereas
the
sheriff's
office
serves
process
for
state
court,
juvenile
court,
probate,
court,
Superior,
Court,
magistrate
court,
and
so
if
each
deputy
marshal
on
the
street
could
serve
process
for
all
of
those
courts
and
I,
think
that
would
be
a
cost
savings
and
a
benefit
to
the
City
of
Columbus
and
I.
Think
that
now
may
be
the
time,
because
the
voters
of
Muskogee
County
would
not
be
being
asked
to
unseat
an
incumbent.
C
So
there's
no
clear
candidate
and
I
certainly
believe
that
this
issue
I
know
I've
been
approached
by
citizens
in
this
community
all
the
time
about
this
issue.
Again,
it's
not
something
I
can
do,
but
it's
something
that
I
would
like
this
council
to
consider
that
the
time
may
well
be
right
for
that
with
34
job
openings
in
my
agency
and
total
employees
of
14
to
17
I
do
believe
that
it
could
be
a
cost
savings
and
in
a
more
efficient
way
of
serving
process.
C
Additionally,
there's
been
studies
that
our
fees
are
different
and
those
fees
would
go
into
the
city
revenues.
So,
to
summarize,
our
request
here
today,
I'm
asking
for
15
additional
vehicles,
11
marked
chargers
and
for
Tahoe's
I,
would
like
to
take
2.5%
and
give
it
to
all
of
my
sergeants
lieutenants
and
captains.
I
believe
that
I
can
cover
that
in
my
current
budgeted
funds,
with
with
job
openings
and
other
retirements
that
I
have
had
or
do
anticipate
in
the
future.
C
I
believe
that
this
year,
I
don't
have
a
bottom
line
number,
but
I
know
that
we
will
be
returning
a
significant
amount
in
salary
savings
to
the
city's
Treasuries
because
of
unfilled
positions.
I
would
also
ask
this
council
to
consider
a
comprehensive
public
safety
analysis
of
duties
and
of
pay
and
of
compression
going
forward
for
the
agencies
and
to
consider
placing
the
consolidation
of
the
marshal's
office
into
the
sheriff's
office
on
the
2020
ballot.
C
F
So
sheriff
thank
you
for
coming
today
and
we
appreciate
everything
you
and
your
office
is
doing
for
the
citizens
of
Columbus.
We
just
we
say
that
all
time
we
just
can't
say
it
enough,
so
I
mean
that
and
they're
doing
an
outstanding
job
too
and
they're
doing
it
with
with
Grant
guess
the
words
gratitude
the
officers
the
the
deputy
sheriff's
I,
see
have
been
more
than
accommodating
to
the
citizens.
I
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Reflection
of
leadership
but
and
I'll
put
those
15
additional
vehicles.
We
have
that
lease
program
right
set
up.
F
A
B
So
we
do
have
a
leasing
program,
a
capital
leasing
program
with
GMA
I've,
what's
already
included
in
the
budget,
I
was
already
I've,
already
sort
of
reached
out
to
GMA
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
capacity
to
lease
what's
included
in
the
budget,
so
anything
on
in
addition
to
what's
already
in
the
mayor's
proposed
budget.
Of
course,
I
have
to
verify
with
GMA
that
we
can
kiss.
A
B
Amount,
but
as
far
as
the
cost
of
the
vehicles,
my
costs
do
different
slightly
from
the
sheriff's
cost,
and
that's
only
because
of
the
revised
mount
they've
revised
them
out,
as
it
relates
to
the
build-out
package.
That
is
slightly
less
than
what
was
initially
included
in
the
budget
package.
So
for
the
11
vehicles
of
the
11
pursuit
vehicles,
that
cost
would
be
400.
F
F
B
F
You
know
and
I
think
everybody
knows:
we've
been
working
with
each
other
for
a
long
time.
They
understand
financial
resources
and
you
know
you
got
a
look
at
it.
It's
a
two-way
street.
You
got
to
look
at
it
both
ways
and
you
got
to
look
at
it
in
collective
as
well.
But
what
I
hear
you
ask
in
within
your
budget
at
fund,
which
we
have
been
just
as
a
note?
C
F
C
F
I
have
to
ask
that
question
the
I'm
with
you
on
consolidating
resources,
I
mean
that's
just
a
no-brainer.
We
got
to
do
that,
I
think
it's
just
it's.
It's
always
been
out
there,
but
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
I.
Frankly,
all
these
things
we're
talking
about
here.
If
you
really
look
at
it
and
narrow
it
down.
F
If
we
don't
start
thinking
in
that
direction,
when
you
got
limited
financial
resources
and
limited
manpower
and
just
immense
competition
everywhere-
and
it's
just
not
happening,
then
you're
going
out
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
all
work,
and
we
just
can't
put
keep
coming
back
and
put
them
back.
What
we're
doing
is
just
we're
going
back
to
the
old
way
and
putting
band-aids
on
all
the
departments,
in
this
case
public
safety
departments,
on
the
issues
they
have.
Yes,.
F
F
C
F
C
F
C
I
say
a
comprehensive
analysis.
I
I
think
that
there
should
be
a
lot
of
conversations
about
that
because,
frankly,
you
know
someone
asked
me
a
question
the
other
day
and
I
believe
Seattle
Washington
was
in
Atlanta,
offering
$15,000
sign-on
bonuses
and
a
sixty
to
seventy
thousand
dollar
a
year
starting
pay.
So
this
is
not
a
Columbus
Georgia
issue.
This
is
a
national
issue
and
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
where
we
are
and
what
are
some
of
the
I,
don't
think
money's.
C
F
C
C
H
B
Does
she
does
and
the
actual
cost
estimates
that
I
have
for
the
two
point?
Five
percent
increase
is
seventy
thousand
five
hundred
and
twelve
dollars,
that's
included
benefits
and
we
could
certainly
work
with
the
sheriff
convinced
she
could
maybe
implement
a
mirror.
What
the
police
department
has
done
in
the
past,
which
is
identify,
maybe
two
positions:
two
positions
will
cover
the
cost
of
this.
Maybe
we
can
identify
two
positions
that
would
just
remain
unfilled
there
in
the
budget,
but
they
would
remain
unfilled
to
cover
the
cost
of
this
until
through
attrition
or
some.
I
A
B
J
I.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
one
comment
on
the
sheriff's
last
bullet
point
about
consolidation.
As
counsel
probably
remembers,
the
General
Assembly
would
have
to
act
and
pass
some
local
legislation
in
order
to
consolidate
the
two
offices
with
or
without
a
referendum,
and,
of
course,
if
they
have
a
referendum,
they
would
want
it.
I
would
suspect
at
the
earliest
possible
time
in
2020,
because
that
is
a
local
race
that
will
normally
be
on
the
ballot.
Yes,.
C
J
K
A
A
C
A
Mean,
let's
not,
let's
go,
thank
you
so
much
Jeff,
Thompkins
in
and
also
to
the
men
and
women
in
the
Muscogee
County
Sheriff's
Office
you're,
particularly
this
last
year.
Your
work
as
we
face
some
pretty
significant
disruption
in
the
government
center
and
so
forth
year.
Your
devotion
to
us
has
been
outstanding
and
it
has
been
noted.
People
recognize
that
you've
gone
the
extra
mile
and
we
appreciate
it.
We
want
to
thank
you
for
doing
that.
M
N
Good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
for
our
two
new
counselors,
who
have
not
had
the
privilege
of
speaking
before
my
name
is
Steve.
Craft
I
am
the
chief
assistant
for
the
Chattahoochee
judicial
circuit,
Division
of
the
Georgia
public
defender's
office,
and
my
boss.
Moffett
Flournoy
is
the
circuit
public
defender.
We
are
a
state
agency
that
representation
in
the
superior
courts
for
the
entire
circuit.
We
also
have
contracted
with
the
city
to
handle
the
public
defender
representation
in
the
city's
recorders
court.
That
is
very.
N
N
Some
of
our
council
members
have
been
by
the
office
and
one
hired
away
one
of
my
lawyers,
and
so
you
know
in
the
big
picture
we
were
open
to
you
anytime.
Today's
request
is
very
simple
and
very
short
in
the
sense
that
I've,
given
you
a
handout,
the
cover
sheet,
some
summarizes.
What
we're
asking
for
we're
asking
for
a
total
of
$16,000
to
reclassify
six
or
seven
positions.
Six
investigators
and
one
investigator
to
chain
move
him
to
a
supervisory
position.
N
These
investigators
job
descriptions
have
remained
unchanged
in
their
classification,
unchanged
for
15
years
over
the
course
of
the
last
15
years
as
the
state
became
involved
in
the
program,
and
they
came
to
work
for
us
in
the
state
agency,
they've
obtained
numerous
additional
duties.
They
work
independent
a
lot
of
the
time
they
are
now
involved
in
all
the
accountability
courts.
N
We
had
asked
for
a
16
to
the
17.
They
recommended
a
16
to
a
17
increase
the
investigator
who,
in
addition
to
doing
the
investigator
duties,
is
the
lion
supervisor
for
these
six
investigators
and
for
administrative
personnel
as
well,
and
he
is
being
paid
as
an
investigator
as
opposed
to
a
actual
supervisor.
N
The
total
cost
for
this
upgrade
would
be,
as
I
said.
Sixteen
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
two
dollars
now
I
will
offer
this
as
those
of
you
that
we've
worked
with
in
the
past
and
of
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
If
we
have
any
vacancies
on
the
city's
funded
attorneys
slots,
that
money
comes
back
to
the
city,
we
have
lost
a
senior
and
an
experienced
attorney
towards
the
end
of
the
year
last
year,
and
we
have
shifted
it
so
that
those
vacancies
have
remained
on
the
city
funded
slots.
N
As
the
result
of
that
sometime
after
the
end
of
the
fiscal
of
the
year,
we
will
be
giving
the
check
the
city
a
check
for
in
excess
of
$100,000.
So
this
will
make
the
fifth
or
sixth
year
that
we
have
attained
a
rebate
from
the
state,
and
this
will
push
it
over
half
a
million
dollars
that
we
have
brought
back
to
the
state
in
the
way
in
in
our
management,
bacon,
cease
and
keeping
these
positions
and
using
the
state
funding
as
much
as
possible.
So
I
believe
that
that's
a
fair
trade-off.
B
Yes,
ma'am
that
dollar
Mattie
is
correct.
It
is
sixteen
thousand
one
hundred
seventy
two
dollars.
The
request
would
be
to
provide
funding
for
the
career
ladder,
adjustment
of
six
of
those
investigators
moving
them
from
a
grade
16
to
a
grade
17
and
then
for
the
reclassification
of
one
investigator
to
an
investigator
supervisor
and
that's
going
from
a
grade
16
to
a
grade
19.
But
the
total
amount
is
sixteen
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
two
dollars
and.
A
A
O
You
good
afternoon
there
is
that
better,
all
right,
so
I
look
up
at
the
screen
to
see
where
I
am
okay,
I'm,
not
here,
oh
there.
It
is
all
right
all
right.
Thank
you
so
much
for
giving
me
a
chance
to
come
and
present
today,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
concerns
with
the
district
attorney's
office
budget
them
really
and
I'd
like
to
go
over
those
and
ask
you
to
fund.
Actually
it's
one
of
them
is
a
budget
neutral
request,
and
one
of
them
is
a
funding
request.
O
So,
first
of
all,
we
are
not
asking
for
any
change
in
our
operating
budget
from
FY
19
to
FY
29
June,
the
operating
budget,
but
our
budget
is
roughly
about
two
point.
Nine
eight
million
of
your
budget,
but
93
of
that
is
personnel
and
I,
know
that
probably
a
lot
of
the
departments
have
heavy
personnel
costs.
O
93
to
me
that
93
percent
seems
really
high
I
dealing
people,
and
that
is
most
of
what
I
have
is
a
service,
and
so
there
are
there's
a
lot
of
personnel
cost.
We
are
requesting
one
full-time
administrative
clerk
position
or
in
the
alternative
to
that,
to
part-time
administrative
clerks
and
on
requesting
one
reclassification,
which
is
budget
neutral.
O
So
on
the
full-time
position,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it,
the
position
itself
and
what
I
need
that
position
to
do
as
if
it's
one-
and
we
will
talk
at
the
end
about
some
of
the
savings
that
could
be
had
if
it
was
two
part-time
positions
and
there
are
three
urgent
needs.
The
district
attorney's
office
has
right
now
that
cannot
be
filled
by
our
current
personnel,
and
one
of
them
is
a
response
to
the
open
records
act.
Requests.
As
you
know,
this
is
mandatory.
We
have
mandatory
compliance
to
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act.
O
We
have
had
a
significant
increase
in
the
number
of
requests
that
we
get
for
our
open
records
acts
and
we
do
not
have
someone
who's
dedicated
to
do
that.
At
this
point,
it
is
something
that's
being
done
by
one
of
the
other
state
of
one
of
the
administrative
assistants.
Who's
also
trying
to
manage
that,
but
it
is
becoming
increasingly
difficult
and
we
have
mandatory
timeframes
for
this
as
well,
which
is
becoming
increasingly
difficult.
We
are
receiving
right
now
about
30
requests
a
year.
O
Admittedly,
if
it's
real
it
exists,
but
it
is
an
outlier,
so,
let's
just
say:
10
boxes
of
paperwork
on
a
file
which
is
a
lot
of
what
they're
requesting
a
lot
of
these
are
old
murder
files
that
have
many
many
boxes,
and
so
in
order
to
fulfill
an
Open
Records
Act
request
on
that
the
administrative
assistant
has
to
take
say
one
stapled
document
that
may
have
20
pages
unstaple.
Those
has
to
make
a
photocopy
of
any
pages
that
need
reductions.
O
They
can
make
a
photocopy
of
the
ones
that
don't
need
reductions
and
set
those,
but
the
ones
that
need
reductions
have
to
make
a
photocopy
of
the
pages
that
need
reductions.
Take
the
photocopy
line
through
the
items
that
need
to
be
redacted
make
a
net
two
more
photocopies
of
that
one,
because
you
can
still
read
through
the
lined
items,
so
you
have
to
make
another
photocopy
to
actually
obliterate
it.
O
So
no
one
can
read
it
and
then
place
those
in
the
file
so
that
we've
got
a
record
of
what
we
sent
and
we've
got
the
one
that
we're
sending,
and
this
is
a
page-by-page
process.
In
order
to
do
this,
and
when
we've
got
ten
boxes
of
paperwork
that
have
to
be
read.
Obviously
you
can't
you
don't
know
what
to
redact
until
you've
read
the
pages
have
to
be
read,
understand
this
statute,
which
is
what
we're
going
to
get
down
to
the
fact
that
it
needs
to
be
a
single
employee.
O
It
is
a
high
level
task.
They
have
to
understand
the
statute,
understand
what
needs
to
be
redacted
out
of
these
make
those
multiple
copies
in
order
to
have
a
copy.
That
truly
does
have
the
information
that
should
be
kept
from
the
public
so
that
they
cannot
read
it.
It
is
an
extremely
time-consuming
task
to
make
these
reproductions
of
these
files
in
a
way
that
we
can
hand
them
out
to
the
public
the
it
is
a
high
level
task.
O
It
really
does
take
someone
who
is
trained
to
do
this,
and
it
needs
to
be
done
by
a
single
employee.
We
do
not
need
to
have
this
farmed
out
to
six
different
people
trying
to
cover
this
when
it
is
so
meticulous
and
to
release
information
that
should
not
be
released
would
be
egregious
on
our
part.
We've
got
to
make
certain
that
we're
not
releasing
the
things
that
should
not
be
released.
O
O
The
next
task
that
is
an
urgent
need
for
us,
is
our
vault.
We
have
involved
the
the
grand
jury
in
its
inspection
of
the
Jai's
office
has
commented
on
the
condition
of
our
vault.
We
understand,
there's
a
need
to
re
inventory
and
an
update
our
system
of
storing
evidence,
and
to
that
end
we
have
requested
and
have
received
through
IT
a
tracking
and
management
system
that
actually
coordinates
with
the
police
department
system,
so
that
we
can
maintain
our
evidence.
O
However,
we
need
a
full
inventory
of
the
vault
with
all
of
the
items
that
are
in
there
now.
We
need
to
put
all
of
that
into
the
new
system,
and
then,
once
that
happens,
we
need
to
have
to
make
sure
that
the
vault
is
maintained
through
the
new
system
in
a
way
that
gives
meaningful
access
to
the
attorneys
when
they
need
the
items
that
are
stored,
the
property
and
the
evidence
that
is
stored
in
the
vault.
O
The
slowdown
in
the
cases
is
through
the
investigators.
We've
talked
about
that,
but
specifically
one
of
the
things
that
makes
it
difficult
for
them
to
get
the
cases
ready
to
turn
in
to
the
attorneys
is
the
discovery
and
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
the
discovery
is
prepared
and
ready,
and
that
includes
copying
a
lot
of
digital
information,
which
is
essentially
sitting
at
a
tower
and
copying
body.
O
O
It
is
currently
it
lies
in
the
in
the
investigators
realm
within
the
office,
and
it's
something
that
if
the
investigators
had
an
administrative
clerk
that
worked
with
the
investigators,
they
could
help
them
perform
this
part
of
a
task
as
far
as
getting
the
files
ready
to
hand
over
to
the
attorneys.
That
would
also
be
scanning
the
paperwork
into
the
system.
O
We
didn't
have
a
way
of
storing
them
at
our
system
so
that
we
can
then
I'm
sharing
them
with
the
defense
through
a
disk,
but
that
wood
scanning
paperwork
as
well
would
be
something
that
this
court
could
do.
I'm
requesting
an
administrative
position
to
fill
those
fill.
Those
three
urgent
needs
that
we
have
at
this
time
a
full-time
administrative
clerk
clerk.
Our
administrative
clerks
are
g11,
that
salary
would
be
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
thirty
cents
and
the
budgetary
impact.
O
My
estimate
of
the
budgetary
impact
would
be
forty
one
thousand
four
hundred
seventy
dollars
and
thirty-six
cents
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
next
slide
relatively
quickly,
because
it's
the
last
slide
of
this
set,
and
that
is
in
the
alternative.
If
we
could
receive
two
part-time
administrative
clerks,
one,
administrative
clerk,
what
their
primary
responsibilities
would
be.
O
Those
Open
Records
Act
requests
that
are
that
are
urgent
and
mandatory,
and
then
the
other
one
would
be
the
one
that
helps
that
assists
with
the
vault
and
assist
the
investigators
with
the
discovery,
copying
the
discovery
and
scanning
the
discovery.
It
work
more.
The
investigators,
especially
the
Violent,
Crimes
Unit
I'm,
if
we
did
that
at
a
g11,
the
hourly
rate,
is
$13
and
86
cents
an
hour
and
putting
in
20
hours
for
each
of
those,
two
positions
would
give
a
budgetary
impact
of
approximately
31,000
$34.20
miss.
B
O
K
O
K
O
That's
correct,
so
if
it
was
one
position
that
would
be
one
of
the
three
main
duties
of
that
person
if
I
had
two
people,
that
would
be
the
full
duty
of
one
part-time
person
is
to
fulfill
those,
and
they
understand
all
that
redaction
still
has
to
be
done
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
sending
it
through
the
copier
to
make
it
a
physical
copy
or
for
sending
it
through
the
copier
just
scan
it
on
and
then
put
it
on
a
disk.
It's
gonna
be
the
same
manpower,
counselor.
A
O
F
O
O
K
H
A
P
Just
want
to
getting
a
cue
I,
don't
want
to
interrupt
your
your
group.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
the
question
that
I
think
councillor
Davis
asked
and
then
the
city
manager's
response
I'll
tell
you
the
spin
for
the
first
time
going
through
it
and
watching
the
sausage
made
it's
arguably
the
most
difficult
part,
because
these
positions
are
warranted.
She
needs
them,
but
we
heard
from
every
department
head
positions
that
are
needed
for
them
to
more
effectively
and
efficiently
function
within
the
parameters
that
they're
given
to
work.
H
P
Have
a
solid
need
for
some
additional
personnel,
it's
just
as
we're
working
towards
the
objective
of
trying
to
find
ways
to
be
more
efficient
and,
at
the
same
time,
find
better
ways
to
do
the
same
old
things.
It's
not
we're
not
at
a
point
where
we
felt
like
we
could
add
these
in
the
budget.
This
was
something
that
council.
They
need
to
consider.
A
K
O
O
You,
my
second
request,
is
for
a
reclassification
currently
in
my
office.
I
have
a
position
that
is
titled
at
this
point
office
manager
it
is
currently
at
g12,
and
my
current
employee
in
that
position,
is
at
12
P
I'm,
requesting
a
reclassification
with
a
new
title
of
administrative
operations
manager,
which
is
a
current
existing
position
in
the
city
government.
It's
a
g18.
My
current
employee
could
be
moved
to
an
18
d
and
it
would
be
a
budget
neutral
request.
O
Many
years
ago,
since
I
have
added
those
duties
to
this
position
and
I'm
requiring
this
person
to
perform
those
duties,
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
move
it
where
it
would
wear
for
the
duties
that
are
being
performed
and
I
hope
to
be
able
to
in
the
future.
Fill
this
position
was
qualify
candidates
that
are
prepared
and
have
the
experience
in
the
education
that
I
need
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
these
duties,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
it
would
need
to
be
a
g18.
A
B
That
that
would
be
correct
and,
as
I
understand
it
you're
saying
it's,
but
it
we're
saying
now
that
its
budget
neutral
and
probably
wondering
why
was
it
not
included
in
the
budget
and
I
think
initially,
when
the
position
was
reviewed
by
CSU?
But
apparently
the
person
in
the
position
is
a
great
12
administrative
assistant
and
the
titling
of
the
position,
as
it
was
reviewed
by
CSU,
was
that
of
an
office
manager.
Although
and
that's
I
guess
the
role
that
the
person
plays
in
the
district
attorney's
office.
B
So
it
came
back
as
a
great
14
from
CSU
as
an
office
manager,
because
that
is
the
grade
level
for
our
current
office
managers
throughout
the
government.
But
as
the
DA
we've
had
further
conversations,
the
administrative
operations
manager
is
more
in
line
with
the
duties
of
the
person
in
her
office,
and
that
is
an
existing
position
within
the
government.
B
It
is
a
great
18,
so
in
fact
the
reclassification
would
present
a
budgetary
savings
if
the
individual,
that's
in
that
position,
is
still
retiring
at
the
end
of
June,
because
the
new
person
coming
in
would
make
less
based
on
the
pay
scale.
The
different
pay
scale
that
we
have
so
it
actually
would
result
in
a
savings
of
thirteen
hundred
twelve
dollars.
So
one
thousand
three
hundred
and
twelve
dollars
savings
to
reclassify
the
position
from
a
grade:
12
P
to
a
GRA
18
C.
A
Want
to
say
to
you,
in
chief
deputy
Culpepper
I
forgot
to
say
when
the
sheriff
was
in
here.
Our
process,
as
you
may
recall
from
years
past,
is
that
at
our
at
our
next
meeting,
our
May
21st
meeting,
we
will
go
through
the
add
delete
list
and
make
decisions
at
that
time
as
to
what
we're
going
to
do,
and
typically
we
just
start
at
the
at
the
start
of
the
beginning
of
the
list
and
go
through
so
you'll
be
about
midway
down
that
list.
A
O
F
You
know
we
had
one
of
the
directors
come
to
us
and
talk
to
us
about
salary
savings.
We
had
a
very
long
talk
on
that
discussion
and
and
within
that
discussion
we
found
out
that
a
majority
of
those
salary
savings
or
if
not
all
of
them,
are
in
the
fund
balance.
And
you
know
what
concerns
me
is
that
the
the
requests
that
are
being
made
for
additional
funding,
that
would
increase
budgets
in
departments
are
coming
out
of
fund
balance
and
right
now,
I'm,
not
sure
he's
the
word
just
well.
F
Let's
just
say:
together
all
the
salary
savings
has
been
put
in
the
fund
balance
and
I,
can't
sit
here
and
tell
you
how
much
that
is,
but
assuming
it's
it's
a
good
portion
of
the
nine
plus
days,
that's
over
the
60
day,
minimum
that
bar
that
we've
been
that
we've
been
working
off
of
and
historically,
we've
always
been
very
consistent
in
how
we
spent
the
fund
balance
or
utilised
basically
reserves,
and
that
they've
always
been
for
non
reoccurring.
Expenses.
F
We've
always
allowed
departments
or
we've
been
consist
in
the
past
several
years
because
of
limited
resources
and
allowing
departments
to
reclassify
within
their
budgets
and
as
long
as
they're
staying
within
their
budgets.
That's
that's
fine
if
they
can
manage
it,
but
we
cannot
add
on
to
the
departments.
For
those
reasons
now
that
you
know
we're
doing
basically
we're
dealing
with
decisions.
That's
going
to
be
asked
for
us
to
take
money
out
of
the
fund
balance
and
we've
always
historically
of
and
wisely
financially
physically
wisely
have
used
those
for
non
reoccurring.
F
Expenses
such
as
capital
items,
which
is
one
time
or
bonuses
or
or
emergency
expenditures,
and
you
guys
know
I
mean
we're
going
to
have
some
emergency
spending,
spend
expenditures
come
up.
You
know
with
the
government
center
there
I
cringe
to
think.
What's
next,
we've
got
a
ton
of
capital
needs
that
are
gonna
have
to
take
place
and
we've
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
wait
a
few
years
to
ask
the
citizens
to
make
that
decision
and
even
at
that,
but
we
may
be
needing
that
money
to
operate,
whether
it's
the
jail
or
these.
F
These
other
requests
that
are
going
to
come
and
then
you
know
boring
no
catastrophic
type
of
situations.
So
I
just
wanted
to
remind
counsel
that,
on
the
request
that
that
this
year
is
a
good
year
from
the
standpoint
that
health
benefits
and
all
have
kind
of
stabilized,
but
that
doesn't
mean
next
year
you
come
in,
and
you're
gonna
get
a
million
dollar
bill
to
cover
the
employees,
health
care
cost.
Well,
that's
coming
out
of
the
reserve
and
it's
gonna
be
a
reoccurring,
expense
and
boom.
F
All
your
if
you
use
up
your
reserves
today,
it's
coming
out
of
there.
You're
not
gonna,
have
that
tomorrow.
So
you
know
and
then
you're
going
to
be
forced
to
start
making
cuts,
and
you
know
I,
don't
think
anybody
wants
to
deal
with
that.
But
I'm
not
you
know.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
know
we
there's
a
little
bit
of
revenue.
That's
come
in,
but
most
of
that
revenue
is.
My
understanding
is
really
concerning
me
that
now
we're
stating
that
it's
in
the
fund
balance
and
it's
basically
salary
statements.
F
You
go
yeah.
I'm
really
concerned
about
that
to
the
point
that
that's
well,
I'm
even
talking
about
it
here.
So
I
would
hope
that,
in
light
of
what
the
mayor
said
and
we
haven't
really
had,
we
asked
some
questions
today.
Some
of
these
requests
for
increased
budgets
positions.
You
know,
I
asked
the
question:
what
did
the
executive
administration?
What
did
they
say
about
it
and-
and
you
kind
of
heard,
the
answer
that
it
was
not
budget
neutral?
F
F
Ask
the
staff
to
work
on
this
as
a
control
major
in
the
budgetary
ordinance
requirements
that
we
could
come
up
with
a
detail
of
how
we're
going
to
be
that
consistency
across
all
departments
and
how
we're
using
salary
savings
and
all
that
we
stick
to
that
and
make
that
a
policy
that
really
concern
me.
Mr.
city
manager,
you
and
I
were
having
that
conversation
with
the
director
of
parks
and
recs
and
I
had
to
come
back
and
kind
of
say,
wait
a
minute.
You
know
we
need
to
be
a
little
more
consistent.
F
Now
we're
doing
this
because
of
what
we've
said
in
the
past.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
etched
in
stone
that
everybody
understands,
and
that
would
be
a
control.
Major
and
I.
Think
that
would
be
a
great
tool
for
the
executive,
ministration
staff
in
the
finance
department
to
work
off
of
because
it
takes
a
lot
of
pressure.
We're
getting
that
pressure
now
I
mean
we're
getting
pressure
and
request.
Mr.
P
Appreciate
you,
you
mentioned
that,
and
frankly,
we
have
had
as
policy
in
the
past
and
I.
Think
it's
important,
though,
and
we've
seen
the
significance
of
being
able
to
have
that
policy
be
be
somewhat
flexible,
depending
on
the
time
and
economic
climate,
because
for
years
there
was
no
salary
savings
that
could
be
used
in
in
the
department
in
which
it
was
saved.
It
was
all
going
back
into
the
fund
balance
and
then
there'd
be
some
prioritization
during
mid-year,
or
maybe
it
the
next
year.
P
If
we
saw
that
it
was
becoming
a
trend
as
opposed
to
just
a
spike
and
and
then,
as
things
got
really
really
critical,
then
we
were
trying
to
keep
from
using
fund
balance
to
balance
the
budget.
It
was
a
decision
made
by
the
administration
and
the
executive
management
team,
but
you
know
right
now
because
of
where
we
are
and
trying
to
deliver
the
services
we
do
need
to
dip
into
some
of
the
salary
savings
in
over
the
last
several
years.
P
That's
how
we've
made
adjustments
to
try
to
address
some
compression
and
also
address
some
starting
pay,
particularly
with
public
safety,
but
you're
right.
I
think,
as
we
are
starting
to
get
well
so
to
speak,
we
probably
should
look
at
asking
the
finance
director,
along
with
the
city
manager,
to
make
a
recommendation
as
to
how
fun
salary
savings
be
treated
across
the
board,
because
some
of
the
really
large
departments
obviously
have
a
lot
more
salary
savings
and-
and
it's
it's
kind
of
difficult
to
see,
all
that
go
to
to
the
area
in
which
it
was
generated.
I
B
B
Q
I
will
I
will
breathe
by
some
of
the
repetitious
stuff
that
I
have
had
in
the
past,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
y'all
to
see
the
job
that
these
officers
do
and
have
done
to
be,
is
to
have
as
many
vacancies
as
we
have
here
in
Columbus.
As
of
yesterday,
it's
at
91
vacancies
out
of
a
488
Man
Department
and
we
have
not
cut
many
services.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Excuse
me
the
next
crime
sheet,
our
report,
one
crimes,
ten-year
trends,
you're
gonna,
be
impressed
with
this.
We
have
constantly
been
going
down
on
the
numbers.
You
can
see
that
in
you
don't
see
2009
here,
but
2009
have
come
up
later,
where
we
had
some
15,000
part
one
crimes.
This
past
year
we
were
down
to
9,000
part
one
crimes.
If
you
look
at
the
next
slide
for
one
crime
reach
too
high
in
2009
at
fifteen
thousand
eight
hundred
one
crimes
reported,
it
has
decreased
over
the
past
four
years.
Q
In
2018
we
had
nine
thousand
twenty
eight
crimes
reported
for
a
forty
three
percent
decrease
in
part.
One
crimes
over
a
ten
year
period,
the
lowest
reported
part
one
crimes
in
recent
history
was
in
2018
in
2018
was
the
lowest
since
1983
the
Columbus
Police
Department
holds
national
and
state
recognition.
Q
We
were
awarded
research
in
Kalia,
I
started
it
in
93
resorted
again
within
the
past
two
years.
In
1999
G
ACP,
we
received
our
eighth
accreditation
award
in
2017,
which
we
also
got
the
seal
for
a
meritorious
service
department,
in
other
words
a
department
where
they
will
send
people
to
train
with
us
in
order
to
complete
their
accreditation.
We
meet
463
standards
every
day
in
the
Columbus
Police
Department,
five
recertification
Awards.
To
give
you
some
ideas.
Q
703
agencies
in
the
United
States
are
certified,
I'm
sorry
are
accredited
and
only
129
agencies
out
of
650
in
Georgia
or
certified.
A
few
of
the
community
activities
that
we're
involved
in-
and
this
takes
a
lot
of
man-hours
and
it's
going
to
be
some
of
these
services
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
and
not
time,
manpower
up
on
if
it.
If,
in
fact,
there's
9-1-1
calls
out
there
that
has
to
be
serviced,
staffing
trends
in
2018,
we
got
436
inquiries,
and/or
applications
for
employment.
Q
Out
of
that
we
hired
40
people,
43
resigned,
11
retired
one
was
terminated,
one
died
on
duty
and
for
a
loss
or
total
of
56
or
a
loss
of
a
negative
16
in
2018
alone
officer
shortages.
Today,
out
of
488
we're
91
officers
short
on
the
street.
Today,
we've
got
different
approach,
approaches
now
for
recruiting.
Q
We
have
police
app.com
we're
starting
to
go
with
two
computers
with
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
do
virtual
job
fairs
where,
instead
of
actually
being
on
the
scene,
we
go
into
computer
banks
or
will
allow
the
individuals
we
pay
them
to
put
the
potential
applicants
in
front
of
computer
banks,
and
then
they
can
talk
with
our
recruiters
one-on-one
freshdesk
software.
We
monitor
this
seven
days
a
week
to
9
p.m.
at
night.
Virtual
aid
campaigns
is
recruiting
and
I
know.
Everybody's
turned
the
computer
on.
Q
You
have
a
little
pop-up
saying:
do
you
want
to
talk
to
this
car
dealer
today?
It
here's
a
picture,
his
picture.
Well,
that
same
thing
is
happening
with
us.
Now
anybody
that
goes
on
our
site.
It
comes
up
and
it
comes
up
in
Google,
Instagram,
Facebook,
YouTube
and
Twitter.
Each
campaign
average
is
about
40,000
or
reaches
about
40,000
people.
Now
the
numbers
look
bad
when
you
hire
40
people
in
the
year.
But
reason
for
rejections
is
some
of
them
just
never
follow
up.
Q
They
look
on
the
computer,
they'll
fill
out
an
application
and
then
I
don't
know
if
they
forget
about
it
or
what
they
do
or
they
lose
interest
or
maybe
they're
required
to
file
so
many
applications
because
of
some
type,
federal
or
state
assistance.
But
the
main
thing
is
drug
usage,
deception
about
personal
history
on
their
application,
deliberate
emissions,
social
media
issues,
psychological
or
polygraph.
Exam
results
can
put
them
out
the
door
chief.
M
Q
Q
M
Q
May
not
want
to
go
to
a
job
fair,
their
days,
playing
at
home,
watching
TV
and
eating
Matt,
better
service
them
if
they
can
go
online,
go
on
a
computer
and
send
us
that
information
and
that's
what
we're
working
with
today,
our
exit
interviews,
everybody
that
goes
out
of
that
department.
We
make
them
fill
out
an
interview
sheet
as
to
why
they're,
leaving
this
top
number
one
reason
was
salary
and
the
step
plan.
Q
The
number
two
is
a
record
management
system,
which
is
the
current
software
system
that
we've
just
gone
to
and
and
it's
had
few
problems,
but
we've
worked
through
it.
We
have
provided
extra
training,
but
it's
a
good
system
if
it
works
correctly,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
anybody
that
that
cannot
function
with
this
we're
making
sure
they
can't
function
with
it.
The
retirement
plan,
insurance
benefits
hours
and
schedule
were
finding
that
our
new
Millennials
only
want
to
work
during
the
day.
Q
They
don't
want
to
work
all
night
long
and
most
of
them
don't
want
to
work
weekends.
What
we're,
having
is,
if
there's
an
event
and
say,
for
instance,
a
family
event,
whether
it
be
a
sister
getting
married
or
whether
it
be
Mama's
birthday
or
something
like
that
they
want
to
be
off
in
not
always
when
you're
91
people
short,
can
an
individual
be
off
and
they
get
a
little
perturbed
with
us
and
over
time
they
decide.
Q
They
might
want
to
go
somewhere
else
advancement
within
the
department
and
our
advancement
has
been
really
good
over
the
past
two
or
three
years
years
of
service.
These
are
the
people
that
are
actually
actually
with
the
department.
Today,
I've
got
a
hundred
and
fifty
three
people-
that's
been
there
less
than
five
years.
Q
Q
These
alarms
are
tying
up
too
many
people
for
too
long,
and
when
you
go
to
a
house-
and
it's
been
say
a
fault
of
the
alarm
and
then
the
resident
wants
us
to
sit
there
until
they
can
get
there
so
our
hour
and
a
half
later,
we
just
can't
afford
to
do
stuff
like
that
anymore
and
2018.
We
had
twenty
two
thousand
four
hundred
and
forty
three
total
alarms
out
of
that
two
hundred
and
four
those
were
valid.
Q
Q
They
are
don't
remember
that
they
said
in
the
alarm
open
the
door
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
then
we're
headed
that
way
and
I
could
never
just
send
one
car
I
always
have
to
send
two
cars
because
of
the
possibility
that
that
individual
is
a
good
along
and
we've
got
a
burglar
or
an
armed
robber
in
that
house.
So
the
second
car
is
also
sent
and
9.1
calls
that
we
have
for
faults
along
our
hour.
In
fact,
false
alarms.
Excuse
me.
The
second
thing
that
we're
looking
at
is
private
property
accidents
in
2018.
Q
Everything
that
we
do
is
computerized
we're
looking
at
that
and
we're
looking
at
that
closely,
because
there
may
be
a
need
that
come
July
this
year
we
may
not
respond
to
all
of
the
private
property
accident
calls
anymore.
Of
course,
if
there's
injury,
if
there's
a
DUI
involved
or
something
like
that,
then
of
course
we're
going,
but
we're
you
just
back
into
somebody
in
the
parking
lot
at
the
grocery
store.
Both
cars
are
still
functional.
Q
We're
going
to
either
tell
you
where
to
get
a
state
form
in
order
to
fill
that
out
and
send
it
to
the
state
of
Georgia
or
we'll
respond
and
hand
you
a
form
and
then
we'll
get
back
in
service.
It's
very
simple.
The
forms
are
very
simple
and
I
had
it
here.
Just
a
minute
ago,
I
was
going
to
show
it
to
you,
but
the
anyway
it'll
be
online.
The
nine
one
one
dispatcher
will
tell
them
how
to
get
it
offline
and
or
we
can
have
a
car
to
just
come
by
and
hand
you.
Q
The
report
it'll
go
up
to
as
many
as
three
vehicles
being
involved
in
the
accident
and
there's
some
real
in
the
back,
and
each
driver
would
be
required
to
fill
one
of
those
out
that
would
cut
down
on
that
many
hours.
It's
current
salaries
within
the
Department,
of
course,
in
the
door
high
school,
forty
thousand
five,
eighty,
seven
all
the
way
up
to
a
master's
degree
at
forty
four
Oh
twenty
one
benefits
I
think
we
have
decent
benefits.
We
have
good
benefits
within
the
department
and
something
that
I've
added
to
the
and
I
know.
Q
Ruth
is
in
the
room
back
there
somewhere
is
the
health
and
wellness
son
I?
Think
that
the
health
and
well
in
the
center
is
a
golden
apple
that
we
have
in
this
community
and
when
we
go
to
places
job
fairs
or
whatever
else,
I
think
that
or
most
of
our
folks
have
been
impressed
with
the
fact
that
they
can
go
to
a
clinic
almost
without
an
appointment,
get
there
no
co-pays.
Q
When
you
leave
and
free
prescriptions,
you
can't
beat
that
you
cannot
beat
it
and
I
I'm,
one
that
riether
pushed
and
pushed
and
pushed
and
within
the
past
two
or
three
weeks
and
a
good
cold
I
went
up
there
and
wasn't
very
impressed
with
it
with
the
personnel
and
the
treatment
and
the
free
prescriptions
very
impressed.
Take
home.
Yes,
I'm!
Sorry,
man,
no
I
have.
Q
Starting
officers
take-home
pay
I
want
to
show
you
this.
This
is
what
the
officer
begins
with
with
forty
thousand
five
hundred
and
eighty-seven
dollars
in
the
door,
and
then
you
take
out
eight
percent
pension,
FICA,
Medicare
federal
tax
state
tax
and
then
any
insurance
that
he
pays
and
we'll
look
at
a
beginning
officer
in
the
door,
with
only
the
silver
plan
for
himself
and
that
officer
actually
goes
home
with
twenty
six
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ninety
eight
dollars.
Q
And
if
you
take
an
officer
in
the
door
that
already
has
a
family
and
expect
him
to
live
on
that
money.
He's
out
here,
working
job
after
job
after
job
in
the
community
trying
to
make
the
difference
for
him
and
his
family.
We
need
to
address
that
the
budget
request.
Of
course,
the
2019
total
debt
that
has
been
requested
and
I
saw
our
2020
that's
been
requested
and
the
approved
the
mayor's
approved
recommended
budget.
Q
We're
at
one
point
eight
percent
less
than
what
we
had
last
year
when
we
came
in
the
door
in
2019,
major
projects
and
I,
don't
see
Pam
in
here,
but
the
9-1-1
mitigation
surance
program.
The
map
plan
is
coming
on
strong,
it's
doing
really
good.
We
have
currently
upgraded
all
the
handheld
radios
and
they're
in
there
actually
on
the
shelves
being
programmed
waiting
to
be
issued
to
officers.
The
record
management
system
is
in
paid
for
and
functioning
I
need
some
headsets
we'll
get
into
those
just
a
minute
for
the
motor
squad.
Q
Eat
ticketing,
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
we
started
actually
working
with
the
e
ticketing
system
this
past
week,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
June,
we
will
be
into
that
full
speed
ahead
with
a
ticketing.
This
will
save
the
officer
time.
You
won't
have
to
worry
about
legibility
anymore,
because
you
can't
read
their
writing
when
they're
standing
out
in
the
rain
writing
a
ticket,
you
will
have
the
officers
and
that
can
make
a
traffic
stop
and
probably
be
back
in
service
within
five
minutes
of
the
time
that
that
vehicle
is
stopped.
Q
And/Or
warned
and/or
ticketed,
there's
still
a
need
to
continue
the
replacement
of
paint
and
carpeting
in
the
Public
Safety
Building
last
year.
You
very
graciously
gave
me
$100,000
for
that
purpose.
I
got
with
the
Department
of
Corrections.
We
painted
the
entire
inside
of
our
building
for
$10,000
$10,000,
we're
in
the
process
now
of
replacing
carpet
that
had
been
peeled
up
and
held
down
with
duct
tape
and
we're
in
the
process
of
finishing
that
project
now,
but
I
need
to
continue,
and
that
also
has
to
do
with
at
least
one,
if
not
two
of
the
precincts.
Q
We
have
a
major
project
that
we're
looking
at
today
and
this
should
have
been
a
part
of
the
mat
plan,
but
for
whatever
reason
was
left
off
the
enhance
data
upgrade
to
the
p25
radio
system.
Technology
is
present
on
the
radios,
but
we
don't
have
the
lack
of
a
better
term.
The
gizmo
that's
inside
the
9-1-1
center
to
make
it
functional
technology
will
allow
our
walkie-talkies.
Q
We
can
already
track
the
cars.
I
can
tell
you
where
all
the
cars
all
how
fast
they're
driving
whether
or
not
they
got
their
seatbelts
on
I
tell
you
anything.
You
will
know
about
the
car,
but
once
they
get
out
of
that
car,
you
no
longer
have
a
track
ability
of
that
of
that
officer
officers.
Lives
have
been
in
danger,
they're
still
at
danger
anytime.
They
get
out
and
chase
an
individual
from
a
scene,
for
example,
an
incident
that
happened
about
a
month
ago,
where
an
officer
chased
two
armed
robbers.
They
ended
up.
Q
Q
The
officer
again
was
trying
to
communicate
his
location,
but
after
his
radio
had
become
non-functional
because
of
the
of
the
mic
cord
that
was
ripped
off
the
officer's
uniform,
the
guy
was
beating
the
officer,
he
was
gouged
in
his
eyes
and
he
was
attempting
to
get
his
gun
out
of
his
holster.
Fortunately,
our
9-1-1
center
put
cars
in
the
area.
Q
Q
We
have
a
hundred
and
thirty
six
cars
that
meet
the
mileage
criteria.
Two
hundred
that
meets
the
year's
criteria
and
a
hundred
and
thirty
three
vehicles
in
the
fleet
today
that
meet
both
criteria
for
replacement
I
have
a
pursuit
Tahoe
or
for
them
before.
One
of
them
is
a
patrol
vehicle,
blue
and
white,
and
the
other
three
are
vehicles.
Fugitive
vehicles,
ID
vehicles
that
go
out
of
town
on
the
regular
basis.
Take
long
trips
bring
bad
guys
back
to
Columbus
into
the
Muscogee
County
Jail.
Those
cars
are.
Q
Q
You
I've
always
helped
me,
along
with
the
motors,
we're
doing
good
on
those
don't
need
any
this
year
unless
we
have
a
major
catastrophe
with
one
of
them
and
I
hope,
if
we
don't
I'm
not
asking
for
any
police
vehicles
that
are
unmarked,
meaning
your
investigative
vehicles,
even
though
we
are
three
of
those
that
meet
the
criteria
to
be
replaced.
I
am
asking
and
I'll
get
there
in
just
a
minute
for
some
of
the
blue
and
whites
to
be
replaced,
as
well
as
the
four
Tahoe's
to
be
replaced
to
meet
the
criteria
and
then
again.
Q
I
know.
You've
already
heard
this,
but
my
auto
parts
in
supply
line
item
is
over
again
this
year
and
it's
basically
believable
cause
of
keeping
these
old
broken-down
vehicles
up
and
running
as
safely
for
our
officers
as
safely
for
the
community
as
we
can,
and
we
have
looked
at
an
average
of
five
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
in
15
for
the
line.
Item
of
cost
in
parts
supplies
in
sixteen
582,000
in
17,
624
thousand
and
in
eighteen
610,000,
as
the
amount
of
monies
that
we
have
overspent
are
not
overspent.
Q
M
Q
M
M
Q
A
Q
B
F
Q
B
B
Right
so
the
cost
of
their
addition.
The
annual
lease
estimate
is
two
hundred
forty-eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
eleven
dollars
for
the
additional
25
for
the
additional
for
Tahoes,
fifty
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
That's
the
five-year
lease
amount.
So
that's
the
annual
amount
for
five
years.
One
point
of
clarification
on
the
request
that
was
added
by
counsel
the
three
hundred
forty
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
two
dollars.
B
F
H
A
F
F
G
M
H
L
D
D
D
If
you
are
a
wouldn't
you,
it
wouldn't
go
mad
delete
this,
and
the
proposed
budget
you'll
be
trying
to
use
the
current
money.
I
was
just
trying
to
be
clear
and
then
the
other
thing
I
want.
The
point
I
want
to
make
to
remind
you
to
be
mindful
that
the
vehicles
that
we're
talking
about
on
GM
a
lease
purchase
we're
talking
about
that.
You
know
these
approaches,
but
she's
got
a
check
with
GMA
after
we
leave
here
today
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
capacity
to
use
the
geo
Malee's
approaches.
D
If
you
decide
to
Twentynine
for
police
and
the
15
for
the
sheriff
in,
however
many
ELLs,
you
may
be
talking
about
45
or
50
vehicles.
She's
got
a
real
fact
that
we
have
the
capacity
with
GMA
release
to
release
all
those
vehicles,
and
she
doesn't
know
that
at
the
moment
we're
just
she's
recording
it,
assuming
that
we
might
have
capacity
and
so
she'll
verify
that,
and
so,
if
we
do
find,
if
not
we're,
gonna
need
a
back-up
plan
swimming
at
that
point.
Okay,.
A
L
L
D
D
H
Q
E
Counselor,
yes,
man,
finance
director
on
the
enhanced
data
upgrade
to
the
p25
radio
system,
cost
being
341
for
you
to
repeat
what
you
said
last
about
it
being
a
five-year
commitment
right.
H
E
F
Q
First
group
of
those
cars
that
were
ordered
in
this
budget
on
the
street
yesterday,
and
that
was
only
five
or
six.
You
did
what
say,
those
those
were
the
ones
that
were
approved
by
council
in
this
in
the
last
budget,
meaning
the
first
of
this
budget
when
those
30
vehicles
were
approved.
We
put
the
first
group
of
those
cars
on
the
road
yesterday.
Q
Q
F
D
Think
chief
has
been
lucky
in
the
past
years,
because
he's
called
and
said
it
looked
like
a
45
vehicles
sitting
on
a
lot
up
here
and
I've
told
them
to
hold
him
for
me
and
we
were
able
to
make
it
work
so
I
mean
he
got
him
he's
been
expedited
in
the
past
because
he's
he
went
on
his
own
and
found
them
on
a
lot,
but
I
mean
if
you
just
go
through
the
order
process.
You
know
because
they're
in
the
band
all
over
the
country
I
mean
there's
a
backlog
and
they're
not
delivering.
Let.
F
Okay,
all
right,
unless
someone
say
counselor
Barnes,
when
we
were
talking
a
little
while
ago,
the
the
you
know,
I
think
I
stated
it
earlier,
even
though
its
salary
savings,
the
salary
savings,
is
all
in
the
fund
balance.
So
we
are
spending
from
balance
money
everything
we
do
we're
spending
fund
balance
so
that
comes
down
on
the
days.
F
Amount
of
money,
the
revenue
that
you
have
to
work
with,
because
you're
using
it
again
on
filling
positions.
So
we
don't
know
if
this
has
come
next
year.
If
they
can't
fill
positions-
and
you
know
the
the
single
amount
of
being
pot
if
they
fill
the
positions
and
all
the
money
disappears,
and
you
know
and
then
you're
back
dealing
with
the
60-day
mark
again.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
to
it.
A
A
Q
Q
If
the
officer
has
been
there
six
months
and
another
500,
if
they've
been
there
one
year
for
a
total
of
$1,100
incentive
from
salary
savings
to
attempt
to
get
officers
in
the
door,
pay
increase
for
all
officers
within
the
police
department
and
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
10%
across-the-board
raise
for
all
police
officers.
I
realize
that's
pie
in
the
sky,
but
I
would
like
to
see
a
group
of
counselors
someone
to
research
and
study
the
cost
or
the
salaries
within
the
Columbus
Police
Department
as
compared
to
even
our
area
or
other
areas.
Q
Q
A
We've
asked
that
that
deserves
so
if
all
of
our
earlier
organizations
will
can
can
come
together,
we
need
to
talk
with
not
only
the
people
who
are
knowledgeable
about
payroll
and
salaries
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
who
are
knowledgeable
about
trends
and
what's
happening
in
other
parts
and
how
we're
being
impacted
and
so
forth.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
you
more
and
the
sheriff-
and
you
know
whomever
else:
let's,
let's
get
them
together
and
see
if
we
can't
we're.
Q
Ready
to
get
started
with
that,
we've
got
our
average
from
Lagrange
to
even
someone
else.
That
told
me
today
is
45,000
in
the
door.
That's
an
average.
Within
the
past.
The
Chamber
of
Commerce
did
a
public
speech
where
they
say
that
the
average
salary
in
Columbus
Georgia
is
$45,000
a
year.
We
start
at
40.
I
know
that
you
could
probably
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
people,
that's
gotten
master's
degrees
and
all
and
maybe
get
it
a
little
bit
closer
too,
but
we
had.
Q
We
need
to
have
a
minimum
of
$45,000
in
the
door
for
these
officers,
but
we
can't
stop
there.
We
have
to
go
all
the
way
through
and
go
all
the
way
up
with
it.
We
can't
just
take
and
identify
because
of
reasons
like
compression
reasons
like
the
individuals
that
may
not
stay
too
long.
We
need
to
address
the
entire
department
and
it
needs
to
be
done
sooner
than
later
and.
Q
The
ones
that's
been
hired
since
2012
proposed
healthcare
benefit.
The
same
thing
that
I
asked
you
about
last
year
is
to
the
city
too:
pay
for
or
give
the
officers
each
officer
that
has
insurance
with
the
city
to
give
them
the
silver
plan
free.
That
would
be
a
savings
of
73
dollars
over
two
weeks
per
officer.
Q
My
intentions
here
today
are
to
put
more
money
in
their
pockets
and
to
look
at
the
little
things
that
can
put
money
in
their
pocket.
Maybe
little
things,
it's
not
a
good
description
on
that,
but
anything
over
that
whether
they
have
the
gold
plan,
whether
they
have
a
family
plan,
whether
they
have
dental
and
vision,
has
to
come
out
of
their
own
pocket.
This
is
in
the
door
free
health
care
silver
plan.
Only.
Q
We
need
to
increase
the
clothing
allowance
for
plainclothes
officers
within
the
department.
We
currently
give
them
three
hundred
dollars
over
six
months
and
I'd.
Like
to
increase
that
to
five
hundred
dollars
over
six
months,
clothes
are
extremely
expensive.
We
monitor
their
dress
and
we
require
them
to
rip
dress
in
a
certain
amount
and
we
need
to
bump
that
money
up.
We've
been
in
that
and
it
affects
103
officers.
We've
been
in
that
$300
range
for
probably
ten
plus
years
and
clothing
and
other
things
have
gone
up
since
then.
Q
That,
if
you're
a
police
officer
with
the
city
of
Columbus
Georgia-
and
you
live
in
this
county
for
the
duration
of
time
that
you
live
in
this
county,
you
would
not
pay
property
taxes.
Now,
I'm
not
saying
there.
There
may
be
a
limit
on
this
I'm,
not
saying
go
to
Green
Island
by
your
house,
I'm
saying
on
an
average
house.
Q
We
could
set
limits
to
where,
hopefully
we
could
better
recruit
people
from
the
outside
now
and
talking
to
the
officers
and
I've
got
100
officers
that
live
in
another
County
in
Georgia
or
either
Alabama,
they
say
it's
cheaper
to
live
there.
Taxes
are
cheaper,
other
things
are
cheaper
and
I
need
to
get
them
back
to
this
County.
If
I
can
get
them
back
here,
they
can
take
advantage
of
the
take-home
car
program,
which
will
save
them
a
little
money,
and
this
I
don't
know
how
expensive
that
this
would
be.
Q
I
mean
I'd
have
to
talk
with
our
tax
commissioner
to
get
some
kind
of
idea
without
touching
each
officer
and
asking
him
if
in
fact,
he
lives
in
an
area
they
may
live
in
an
apartment.
It
may
not
touch
him
at
all,
but
the
ones
that
live
in
houses
we
want
them
to
come
here.
We
want
them
to
purchase
property
in
Muskogee
County.
We
want
them
to
live
in
Muskogee
County
to
work
in
the
mascot
not
to
work,
not
mandate,
but
if
they
do,
then
we
want
to
help
them.
Q
They
have
a
best
interests
at
heart
and
there's
no
doubt
in
my
mind
that
within
the
next
short
period
of
time
we
will
have
a
decision
on
at
least
the
take
home
cars
in
the
state
of
Georgia,
two
counties
that
border
Muscogee,
County
and
I
appreciate
that
they
will
appreciate
that,
but
I'd
like
to
get
them
all
back
in
Muskogee
County.
If
I
could
councillor
Davis,
I'm,
sorry.
F
This
has
been
something
that
this
council
has
really
been
trying
to
work
on.
We've
started
in
steps
and
every
time
we
take
a
step,
everybody
else
gets
three
steps
in
front
of
us
and
look
it's
a
great
economy.
It's
a
tremendous
economy
out
there
there's
jobs
everywhere.
If
it's
not
the
State
Department
trying
to
take
your
officers,
it's
the
Border
Patrol,
it's
the
federal
government,
all
the
other
security
agencies
out
there,
a
Highway,
Patrol
I,
just
noticed
it
in
Atlanta,
everybody
unlined
us
trying
to
take
each
other's
officers,
but
it's
not
just
their
officers.
F
It's
their
upper
leadership
and
that's
what
you're
talking
about
here
is
the
upper
leadership,
and
it's
not
even
outside
of
Muskogee,
carries
right
here
in
Muscogee,
County,
that's
being
done
this
year
and
you
saw
the
chief
what
the
requirements
are
for
these
police
officers
to
go
through.
That's
what
we
talked
about.
You
know.
We
talked
about
parity
and
responsibilities
and
everything,
but
that's
a
heck
of
a
list
to
try
to
meet
and
I.
Don't
think
they
just
give
you
a
badge
for
something
like
that.
F
You
gotta
run
it
I
for
one
I
may
be
on
this
council,
maybe
one
a
few
but
I,
don't
think
I
think
at
the
time
the
100
police
officers
was
a
novel
idea
and
it
was
a
great
way
to
try
to
deal
with
some
of
the
issues
here
in
our
community.
It
crime
related
issues,
but
I
just
don't
think
where
we're
going
to
fill
those
spots,
I
really
with
what
I
see
happening,
and
it's
just,
and
even
at
that
I.
F
You
know.
That's,
oh
that's
a
tough
one,
but
this
council,
whether
I'm,
here
or
you're.
Here
this
is
not
going
away
and
it's
it
is
with
the
big
c-word.
You
know
crisis.
Is
it
not
this
year
next
year,
whatever
eventually?
If
we
start
losing
leadership,
I
mean
I'm.
Just
gonna
say
it.
You
know
the
skunk
sell
and
tell
you
we
lose
leadership.
We're
good
luck.
I
mean
it's
gonna
be
hard
to
get
the
right
people
and
we've
been
really
blessed
to
have
good
people
in
CPD,
sheriff's
offices,
Sheriff's,
Department
and
multiple
fire
departments.
F
Irony
in
this
I
mean
we've
got
good
people,
but
I
mean,
like
you
said:
it's
not
just
CPD,
it's
the
others.
The
pressure
to
to
live
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
do,
but
to
try
to
deal
with
this.
You
got
to
do
with
it
in
an
expedited
matter,
and
she
could
you
give
up.
Can
you
know
I'd
be
willing
to
put
the
reform
out
there
because
I
think
it's
again,
you
know
I
took
a
stance
on
this,
but
the
last
year
and
the
council
did
as
well.
F
We
were
trying
to
address
that
middle
leadership
issue
that
we're
having
and
you
know,
I'd
be
willing
to
do
that,
but
it
would
be
giving
up
a
position.
Another
position
out
of
those
hundred
officers
I
think
40
I,
don't
know.
Is
that
50?
What
is
what's
a
position
equal
to
cost
savings?
Wise
or
excuse
me
cost.
H
D
A
D
F
More
obvious
and
it
would
be
funded
by
one
position
out
of
the
hundred
officers,
but
now
I'm
budget
chair
you
I
mean
these
are
some
of
you.
You
put
some
ideas.
I've,
never
heard
of
you
know,
I
mean
we
kind
of
in
the
wind,
but
I
mean
there's
some
great
ideas
that
need
to
be
need
to
be
looked
at,
but
that
could
potentially
be
utilized
as.
F
A
F
The
study
or
across
the
board
even
dealing
with
other
departments
but
I,
do
want
to
go
on
record
as
saying
look.
The
only
reason
that
I
would
even
offer
this
or
try
to
deal
with
it
because
I
understand
the
competitive
pressures.
That's
out
there.
That's
happening
right
now
and
and
I
view
this
as
a
crisis.
You
know
and
I
probably
get
an
argument
with
somebody
or
some
of
the
other
departments.
F
That's
okay,
but
when
I
look
at
I,
keep
track
of
the
departments
and
all
of
where
they're,
at
with
their
manpower
and
their
leadership
and
all
it
is
not
like
CPD
and
that
part
I
would
challenge
anyone
to
say
it's.
It's
different
because
I
understand
that
the
middle
leadership
is
leaving
left
and
right,
and
you
ought
to
be
concerned
about
that.
I.
Just
don't
see
that
in
the
other
departments
right
now,
they've
got.
T
J
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
chief,
boring
I,
appreciate
your
leadership.
Thank
you
very
good
presentation
just
wanted
to
touch
on
the
take-home
car
piss
RS.
We
we
are
looking
and
working
towards
allowing
what
you've
requested,
but
we
have
some
hurdles.
We've
got
to
get
over,
one
is
the
cost
and
then
the
other
part
working
with
the
mayor,
we're
trying
to
set
up
some
meetings
on
a
state
level
for
border
communities
to
allow
us
to
go
over
into
Alabama.
As
you
know,
the
sovereign
immunity
is
an
issue
in
Alabama
and
yes,
sir,
it's
gone
it's
something.
K
We've
got
to
work
through
and
it's
going
to
take
time
so
we're
working
towards
getting
there.
So
we
we
have
good
intentions,
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
well,
I
mean
I've
been
working
hard
for
six
months
and
very
very
dedicated
and
we've
won
I
think
some
some
state
level
folks
are
coming
to
town
in
the
next
several
weeks
and
we're
trying
to
line
up
meetings
with
them
sure,
but
but
just
won't,
let
you
know
we're
working
towards
that
to
try
to
I
try
to
meet
this
one
request.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
A
L
M
The
way
I'm
interpreting
that
and
just
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I,
see
where
the
part
1
crimes
have
really
decreased,
but
at
the
same
time,
so
has
the
number
of
officers
that
you
have
on
the
street.
So
that
tells
me
that
the
officers
are
chasing
lights
each
shift
now
am
I
interpreting
that
correctly?
Well,
I,
just
what
that
that's,
the
one
thing
I
didn't
quite
think
and
that's
horrendous.
If
you
look
at
it,
you
can
really
that
shows
you
in
a
snapshot.
How
hard
the
offices
that
you
have
are
working
to
see.
M
Some
kind
of
a
study
I
don't
care
how
we
do
it,
but
we
need
to
do
something
here,
because
the
officers
that
you
have
I'm
going
to
get
burned
down
and
then
the
second
thing
is
that,
on
your
chart,
you
don't
have
to
turn
to
it.
Thank
God
for
the
officers,
your
step
that
you
have
here.
They
stayed
for
the
long
haul,
because
this
doesn't
have
a
dog
thing
to
do.
M
It's
money
over
salary
just
have
a
lot
to
do
with
the
ones
here,
don't
break
their
commitment
to
the
Columbus
community
when
you
just
look
at
that,
but
when
it
like
Glenn
put
it
out,
we're
headed
for
trouble
big
time
because
we
are
loser
will
be
losing
the
experienced
officers.
That's
it
I
just
want
to
make
that
to
that
comment.
Mr.
A
B
Yes,
ma'am,
madam
chair,
so
in
summary,
councillor
Barnes
has
placed
on
the
ad
list
the
pursuit
sedans
as
well
as
the
Tahoes.
The
cost
of
those
will
be
a
part
of
the
GM,
a
five-year
lease
program.
If
we're
able
for
the
25
sedans.
The
annual
lease
cost
is
two
hundred
forty
eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
eleven
dollars
for
the
four
Tahoe's
annual
lease
amount
is
50
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
Council
health
has
added
to
the
list
the
enhanced
data
upgrade
to
the
p25
radio
system.
B
That
is
a
five-year
commitment
at
three
hundred
and
forty
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
two
dollars
per
year.
I'm
council
would
sanders
add
it
to
the
list.
One
hundred
and
ninety
eight
thousand
forty
dollars
for
the
auto
parts
and
supplies
counselor
davis
has
added
to
the
list
the
pay
reform
adjustment
for
the
year
five
step.
That
cost
is
fifty-six
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ninety
five
dollars,
and
it
is
the
use
it
is
funded
through
the
use
of
one
police
officer
position
and
that
was
all
I
had.
Okay,.
E
Q
Already
have
a
gang
task
force,
we
just
don't
call
them
that
we've
got
individual
now
we're
doing
more
with
gangs.
Today,
okay,
we
did
back
when
we
had
people
running
around
with
gang
task
force
on
the
back
of
their
jackets,
we're
doing
more
today
with
gangs
than
they
did
at
that
point
in
time.
The
only
thing
that
we're
not
doing
today,
we
just
don't
have
time
to
to
have
the
neighborhood
parties
and
the
other
things
that
they
were
doing
there.
Q
I've
got
a
man
in
the
room
here
today
he's
my
lieutenant
in
charge
of
intelligence
with
intelligence-led
policing.
He
can
tell
you
about
anything
to
do
with
the
gang
gang
members
and
associates
within
this
department
and
he's
been
called
on
to
either
to
even
teach
some
of
the
federal
agencies
in
our
area.
With
this
information,
he
works
close
with
the
US
Attorney
for
this
district.
Q
A
Q
Q
L
Just
something
so
out
of
control,
I
saw
I,
don't
go
on
Facebook
and
social
media
too
much,
but
it
wasn't
too
long
ago.
I
did
go
in
there
and
I
seen.
Somebody
say
that
and
I
didn't
comment,
because
I
didn't
want
to
get
in
a
battle
back
and
forth.
Sure.
Q
Q
L
I
thought
that
was
very
big.
You
know
miscommunication
I'm,
like
that's.
Why
I
don't
even
think
Chicago
California
has
that
many
so
I
was
like
in
you
know,
but
again,
I
didn't
respond
because
I
didn't
want
to
get
into
a
combative
situation
back
and
forth,
but
I
was
I.
Don't
know
about
any
of
my
other
colleagues,
but
I
like
to
be
educated
more
because
I,
don't
even
think
Chicago
or
California
any
of
them
had
that
many.
How
can
we
have
that?
Many
that's.
Q
Yes,
ma'am
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
red
flags
on
the
phone,
it's
on
the
Pope
warning
warning
that
we're
we're
getting
off
farther
than
we
need
to
be
as
far
as
these
vacancies
are
concerned,
so
I
appreciate
what
y'all
do
every
day,
every
time
I
have
ever
came
to
you
called
you
talk
with
you.
You've
always
helped
me
in
the
Columbus
Police
Department.
This
is
your
Police
Department.
A
Chief
as
one
of
the
people
who
was
involved
in
those
7777
traffic
accidents
this
last
year,
you
know
how
reassuring
it
is.
When
you
hear
the
siren
coming
and
you're
in
an
accident,
you
hear
the
silent
coming
and
then
you
see
them
turn
the
corner,
and
you
know
the
Columbus
Police
Department
is
here
and
I'm.
Okay
and.
A
A
Q
D
A
Chief
is
you're
coming
to
the
microphone
now.
I
will
also
say
to
you
and
to
year
command
staff.
It
was
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
a
month
or
so
ago
that
I
had
to
call
an
EMS
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
them
as
it
was
with
the
police
department,
when
I
heard
that
siren
and
I
saw
that
ambulance
and
saw
those
guys
coming
through
the
door.
I'm.
Okay,
well,.
R
A
A
A
R
Well
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
council,
the
committee
mayor
city
manager,
I,
want
to
start
out
today
it's
not
really
in
presentation,
but
we
we
actually
did
a
little
something
different.
We
did
a
home
proposed
budget
request
letter
this
year
when
we
turned
in
our
budget
and
the
two
areas
that
staff
came
up
with,
that
we
thought
we
needed
to
focus
on
was
to
meet
the
city's
approved
standards
of
cover
and
place
a
special
focus
on
cancer
prevention
and
response
reliability.
So
our
budget
included
some
four
or
five
million
dollars
in
emergency
vehicles.
R
So,
as
we
go
through
the
budget,
we'll
talk
some
more
about
some
of
those
items
we
had
asked
for
some
three
hundred
some-odd
sets
of
turnout
gear
I
believe
there
is
some
in
the
proposed
budget
before
you
I.
Also
in
part
of
that
initial
request
was
to
pay
reform
options.
One
similar
to
what
law
enforcement
has
received
in
Columbus,
Sheriff's
Department
police
department
have
received
some
type
of
paper
form
over
the
last
few
years
and
evidently
they're
still
receiving
that
firing.
R
We've
lost
a
battalion
chief,
we're
losing
sergeants
that
are
going
to
fulfill
their
dreams,
either
better
pay
or
you
know
they
want
to
be
in
charge
someplace
else,
and
we
support
them
in
doing
that,
but
we
we'd
like
for
them
to
come
back
to
us
if
the
Rose,
if
the
row
didn't
s
smooth
on
that
side
as
they
thought
so
within
that
first
year,
if
they
want
to
come
back,
we
allow
them
to
reapply.
It
will
hire
them
on
the
spot.
So
that
does
happen.
R
It's
not
happening
as
much
now
as
it
used
to
our
projections
are
by
the
end
of
October,
we'll
be
40
personnel
short.
So
to
put
that
in
context,
if
we
had
been
approved
as
a
department,
some
number
of
additional
personnel-
and,
let's
just
say
for
conversations
sake-
that
number
was
a
hundred
come
October.
We
would
be
a
hundred
and
forty
personnel
short
it's
getting
very
difficult
to
find
qualified
personnel
that
can
not
only
be
state
certified,
firefighters,
but
also
national
registry
EMTs
and
hopefully
move
on
to
paramedic
departments.
R
Again
all
over
the
country
that
are
they're
coming
to
get
our
folks,
we've
got
them
local
they're,
getting
our
folks
that
pay
a
lot
more
I,
don't
know
about
their
benefits
at
all,
but
looking
at
their
pay,
there's
just
no
way
we'll
ever
be
able
to
compete
with
that.
So
we
just
hope
they
fill
their
ranks
quickly
from
departments
outside
of
this
of
this
region
and.
A
Chief
I'm
not
sure
if
you
were
in
the
room
when
we
were
talking
about
this
comprehensive
public
safety
plan
analysis
plan,
but
miss
Alexander
is
you're.
Making
notes
I
do
think
we
need
to
include
the
all
of
our
public
safety
departments
in
this
study,
so
the
fire
fire
AMS
should
also
be
included
in
this
study.
Whatever
we're
going
to
do,
and.
R
And
also
ask
good
not
only
to
be
included
in
the
study,
but
have
representation
as
that
studies
going
on
to
make
sure,
because
we've
seen
in
the
past
that
we
get
compared
to
departments
that
don't
offer
the
services
that
we
offer
there's
large
departments
in
Georgia
that
they
only
have
firefighters,
they
don't
have
transport
for
EMS.
They
don't
run
advanced
life
support
from
their
fire
trucks.
They
don't
do
Swift
water.
They
don't
do
some
of
those
all
those
things
that
we
do
here
in
Columbus
Georgia.
So
I
would
like
for
us
to
have
representation
absolutely.
R
Thank
you
for
that.
As
we
went
through
the
budget.
Of
course,
a
lot
of
those
items
we
requested
didn't
bid,
make
the
cut
and
we
and
then
the
budget
letter
that
I
wrote.
I
know
that
times
are
tight
and
I
would
expect
I've
seen
a
few
of
the
presentations
that
a
lot
of
these
had
items
or
needed
items
that
everybody
needs
to
get
the
job
done
and
I'm
curious
to
see
which
one
of
those
actually
fly
through
the
process.
R
So
in
looking
at
this
presentation,
we
really
only
looking
at
several
items
that
we
feel
like
looking
over
the
past
five
years,
that
we
know
that
we're
going
to
be
in
the
hole
in
these
line
items
and
those
are
auto
parts
and
supplies
that
cost
has
increased
forty-one
percent
over
the
past
five
years.
That
line
item
is
not
really
increased
over
those
five
years.
That's
ninety
thousand
dollars
to
meet
the
anticipated
repair
cost
of
our
vehicles.
R
Electricity
in
average
increase,
has
been
19
percent
over
five
years.
That
again,
that
line
item
needs
to
go
up.
Twenty-Five
thousand
medical
supplies
we're
making
roughly
five
percent
more
calls
every
year.
Something
fight
we're
making
25
percent
more
calls
that
we
were
five
years
ago,
but
we
need
more
supplies.
We
don't
have
the
funding
in
those
line
items
to
cover
those
essential
things
we
need
on
the
ambulance
and
the
fire
trucks
to
provide
that
pre-hospital
emergency
care
to
patients
we're
requesting
$25,000
in
that
line
item
same
with
pharmacy
services.
R
Those
prices
have
increased,
not
as
much
as
the
others,
but
they've
gone
up
nine
percent
over
five
years,
but
that
line
item
has
it
gone
up
so
without
these
increases
more
than
likely
I'm
coming
back
next
well,
sometime
after
this
time
next
year
to
request
additional
funding
in
the
FY
20
to
take
care
of
the
shortfall
that
we
anticipate
is
going
to
be.
There.
R
R
L
H
R
Okay
and
so
looking
out
at
our
auto
parts
and
supplies
line
item
the
average
age
of
our
vehicles
and
I'll
be
honest.
We
I
really
hate
using
averages
for
anything
because
it
doesn't
really
give
you
a
good
indication
if
you've
got
two
vehicles
in
one
of
them's
one-year-old
and
another
one's
twenty
years
old
and
the
average
age
of
your
vehicle
is
10
years
old.
It's
just
not
a
accurate
reflection
of
what
you
have,
but
that's
what
we
have
in
our
presentation
here
so
I
know
we
have.
R
R
The
reliability
on
those
vehicles
is
going
down.
We
have
three
reserve
engines,
they
wanted
reserve
ladder
and
a
reserve
squad
truck
more
often
than
not.
Those
reserve
units
will
get
me
use
more
than
frontline
unit
because
they're
in
service
as
a
frontline
unit
and
when
the
frontline
unit
gets
fixed,
there's
another
frontline
unit
that
goes
out
and
then
that
unit
has
to
go
right
back
in
service.
R
R
If
we
have
a
single
company
go
down,
we
we
will
move
one
of
those
trucks
to
that
other
station
and
they
will
disperse
those
personnel
there
were
assigned
to
that
unit
that
broke
down
throughout
the
department
for
the
rest
of
that
shift
or
until
that
vehicle
gets
repaired,
so
I
typically
typically
don't
get
those
calls
till
Friday
about
four
o'clock.
They
guess
what
so
well.
What
concerns
me
is
that
concerns
me
greatly.
R
Well,
what
happens
over
the
weekend?
There's
somebody
t-bones
one
of
my
vehicles,
one
of
my
vehicle,
one
of
our
vehicles,
and
it
goes
out
of
service
now
we're
two
down,
and
so
it
just
gets
worse
and
worse,
and
the
shop
does
as
good
of
a
job
as
they
can
but
they're
under
some
constraints
as
well.
Our
trucks
are
just
like
any
other
trucks.
R
They
do
have
specialized
purposes,
they
have
a
pump,
they
have
ladders
with
cables
and
pulleys
and
they
have
to
meet
a
whole
lot
of
safety
specifications
so
that
our
folks
can
use
them
safely.
So
it
may
take
them
a
little
longer
to
get
fixed.
We've
had
units
and
in
the
shop
for
months
at
a
time
and
here's
time
is
Kabam.
The
other
parts
are
on
order,
and
you
wonder
if,
if
they're
having
to
go
to
mind
the
order
to
get
it
so
well,
thank
you
counselor
for
adding
those
to
the
list.
R
Some
of
those
items
that
we
had
talked
about
in
our
requested
budget
and
I
spoke
of
initially
today
our
cancer
prevention
initiative.
We
we've
done
some
things.
We
have
started
out
swapping
the
firefighters
where
they,
when
they
have
a
fire.
We
have
a
fire
structure
fire
about
every
three
days
in
Columbus.
How
many
I'll
realize
that
I
mean
it's
never
on
the
news
from
the
most
part,
I
mean
unless
we
get
it
on
Facebook.
You
never
really
hear
about
it
for
some
reason,
but
about
every
three
days
and
that's
just
a
structure
fire.
R
That's
not
counting
car
fires
or
rubbish
fires
or
woodlands.
Grass
fires,
don't
call
them
wooden
hot
fires.
We
don't
any
wood
fires
around
here,
but
after
those
fires,
those
firefighters
were
a
hood
up
under
their
helmet
when
they're
mashed
and
so
after
the
fire.
We
will
swap
that
hood
out
for
a
clean
new
hood
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
and
we
reviewed
the
research
was
a
lot
of
the
cancers
that
firefighters
are
coming
up
with,
or
thyroid
cancer,
for
example.
R
So
next
time,
there's
a
fire
they'll
be
able
to
swap
those
things
out,
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
and
I'll
be
quite
frank
with
you
when
I
sat
in
front
of
the
the
Accreditation
Board,
the
Centers
for
Public
Safety,
axon
excellence
out
in
Dallas
I,
honestly
last
year,
but
summer
it
might
have
been
this
year.
That's
one
of
the
things
they
asked
me.
What
are
you
going
to
do
to
give
it
extra
said
of
turnout
gear.
R
That
on
the
spot,
so
you
know
my
answer
to
them
was
we
were
going
to
include
that
in
our
requested
budget
and
in
the
meantime,
if
we
had
any
extra,
we
were
going
to
identify
the
absolute
busiest
station
that
we
could
supply
with
two
sets
of
turnout
gear.
We
hadn't
got
there
yet,
but
we're
getting
pretty
close
to
doing
that.
So
we
may
have
one
station
that
has
two
sets,
but
the
others
won't
and
at
some
point
in
time
we
hope
that
all
of
them
do.
R
In
addition
to
that,
we
were
looking
at
the
decontamination
equipment
where
the
price
of
that
turnout
gear.
We
requested
$590,000
the
decon
equipment,
which
is
really
a
dryer
and
they
call
it
an
extractor.
It's
a
washing
machine
but
heavy
duty,
washing
machine
and
it
really
cleans
all
the
contaminants
out
of
the
equipment
getting
those
at
every
station.
So
the
folks
I
could
you
know,
get
back
on
engine
five
after
a
fire
and
go
in
and
get
my
gear
get
it.
R
It
started
to
wash
and
get
my
new
set
of
gear
on
my
clean
set
of
gear
and
put
it
out
on
the
truck
and
then
go
clean
myself
up
and
then
be
ready
to
make
calls
and
be
better
protected,
because
all
that
gear,
even
after
the
fires
putting
off
gases,
it's
off
gas
and
those
off
gases
could
possibly
cause.
Maybe
one
of
the
reasons
that
our
firefighters
across
the
country
are
seeing
more
instances
of
cancer
than
the
normal
population,
so
one
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
doing
is
getting
that
gear
even
after
the
fire.
R
One
of
our
battalion
sees
to
the
one
presentation
a
few
weeks
ago
on
a
initiative
called
a
clean
cab,
and
so
all
that
gear
would
not
be
in
the
cab
with
the
personnel
as
they're
coming
back
from
the
fire.
They
would
secure
that
you
know
been
a
compartment
on
the
side
of
the
truck,
so
it's
not
in
the
passenger
compartment
with
them.
So
we're
looking
at
doing
that.
We
looked
at
some
fire
trucks
that
already
had
that
cabinet
if
you
will
built
into
their
their
unit.
R
So
if
we
had
been
approved
any
of
these
trucks
that
we
had
requested
this
year,
it
would
have
cost
us
any
more
money
to
do
it.
We
just
want
reconfigured
the
truck
to
take
that
take
that
gear
to
get
it
out
of
the
cab
out
of
the
the
compartment
where
the
employees
are
riding
riding
in
the
truck
another
initiative
to
go
along
with
the
cancer
of
a
and
was
a
the
vehicle
exhaust
systems.
I
know,
most
of
you
been
by
the
stations,
maybe
seen
the
hose
that
hangs
down.
It
doesn't
work,
that's
what
it
is.
R
It's
a
vehicle
exhaust
system.
We
got
those
things,
it
was
15
or
20
years
ago,
and
it
just
it
costs
way
more
to
get
them
fixed
than
it
would
be
to
invest
in
something
new
that
if
you've
been
to
a
station
or
station
nine,
when
we
had
the
grand
opening
these
units,
they
look
like
a
air
conditioner
unit.
It's
like
six
of
them
in
the
bay,
and
so
they
cleaned
the
air
of
the
diesel
exhaust
when
those
trucks
crank
up.
R
R
So,
eventually
we're
going
to
have
to
address
that
we've
had
vehicles
that
have
broke
down.
In
the
past,
we
made
a
request
to
purchase
vehicles
that
were
basically
told
you
got
to
find
it
in
your
budget.
Now,
if
you
have
cut
your
budget
by
doing
good
management
budgeting
practices
over
the
years,
there
is
no
fat
in
your
budget.
There.
H
R
No
fifteen
eighteen
thousand
dollars
to
go
out
and
buy
a
vehicle,
so
folks
just
have
to
share,
which
means
now
I
only
have
two
were
close.
Getting
done,
maybe
those
two
you
would
think
could
do
it
faster,
but
it
doesn't
turn
out
that
way
in
the
last
area
that
that
we
had
it
had
requested
in
the
budget
was
the
pay
adjustment,
which
was
basically
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
just
a
little
bit
shy
of
that
which
was
a
the
one
our
committee
had
come
up
with
that
had
I.
Think
I
brought
this
to
counsel.
R
Last
year
the
committee
had
come
together.
They
sent
out
questionnaires
to
all
the
departments
in
the
southeast
I'm
asking
them
one.
What
services
do
you
provide,
and
so
when
that
was
all
said
and
done,
we
picked
out
those
that
provide
the
services
that
we
provide,
not
just
because
you're
in
Georgia,
because
Savannah
doesn't
operate
the
same
way.
Columbus
Georgia
does
neither
does
Augusta,
neither
does
it
laughs.
R
A
B
A
U
On
okay,
thank
you
so
very
much
I'm
Danielle
Forte
I'm,
the
Clerk
of
both
Superior
and
state
court.
Here
in
Muskogee,
County
and
I
appreciate
your
time.
Today.
I
would
like
to
start
off
my
presentation
by
communicating
to
council
the
revenue
that
the
superior
in
state
court
brings
to
the
city
annually.
We
are
a
revenue
producing
court
and
our
annual
disbursements
routinely
exceed
3.1
million
dollars
that
has
been
since
I
know
fiscal
year
2017
it
might
be
as
far
back
as
2013
but
I
know
it's
been
since
fiscal
year
2017.
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Our
current
disbursements
to
the
city
have
equaled
1
million
nine
hundred
and
ninety
two
thousand
six
hundred
26.90,
so
we're
right
up
at
about
two
million
dollars.
Which
brings
me
to
my
next
point
and
the
reason
why
I
am
before
council
I,
don't
know
if
most
of
you
are
aware,
but
the
clerk
of
Superior
and
state
court
beginning
January
of
this
year,
2019
we
were
charged
with
complying
with
Senate
bill
407,
which
is
an
unfunded
mandate,
making
mandatory
civil
filings
in
both
state
and
Superior
Court.
So
they
made
electronic
filings
of
civil
cases
mandatory.
Now.
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The
reason
why
I
bring
that
up
is
that
sense.
That
mandate
has
occurred
beginning
this
year.
Additional
monies
have
come
in
that
have
been
dispersed
to
the
city.
We
one
of
our
refiling
vendors
is
Tyler
technologies
and
they
charge
a
fee
for
the
four
efiling
and
part
of
that
fee
goes
to
the
city,
and
so
our
first
quarter
of
this
year-
and
this
was
a
big
yeah.
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And
our
first
disbursement,
this
first
quarter,
which
would
have
been
dispersed
March
of
2019,
was
three
thousand
four
hundred
and
seventy
dollars,
and
so
we've
used
that
figure
and
we
projected
that
for
fiscal
year,
2020
we're
looking
at
about
thirteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
eighty
dollars.
We
think
it'll
be
more,
but
we
that's
the
only
thing
we
can
go
on
based
on
the
fact
that
this
has
just
started
so
we're
looking
at
and
I
want
everyone
to
remember
that
number
of
thirteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
eighty
dollars.
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So
that
brings
me
as
why
I'm
here
again,
we
are
we've
been
charged
with
complying
with
an
unfunded
mandate
of
efiling
in
both
state
and
Superior
Court,
and
so
my
and
I
got
the
memo
that
the
budget
is
very,
very,
very
tight.
So
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
based
on
the
fact
that
the
e-filing
has
caused
our
office
to
be
faced
with
new
challenges.
The
purposes
the
purpose
of
a
fowling
was
to
make
it
easier
for
the
filer.
However,
it
has
caused
challenges
to
our
office
with
efiling.
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U
Also
they
would
bring
stamped
self-addressed
stamped
envelopes
so
that
we
can
mail
the
notices
to
them
and
so
now,
because
it's
mandatory
e-file
and
we're
having
to
incur
calls
for
copies
of
paper
and
also
for
stamps
and
postage
and
envelopes
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
because
of
the
memo
we
have
not
requested
any
money
for
those
things.
We're
going
to
work
through
that.
But
so
we
have
left
it
to
our
one
need,
which
is
a
personnel
request.
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I
am
asking
for
one
part-time
g10
step
a
position
dedicated
and
delegate
it
to
e-filing
what
has
been
allotted
to
our
office
as
a
full-time
g10
step.
A
position
and
I've
had
many
consultations
with
our
finance
director,
Angelica
Alexander,
and
so
what
I
have
decided
to
do
to
meet
the
demands
of
the
office
that
full-time
g10
step.
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A
position
I
want
to
split
into
two
part-time
g10
step,
a
positions,
and
so
we
got
the
green
light
and
there's
the
green
light
on
the
slide
from
Miss
Alexander
to
go
ahead
this
fiscal
year
and
make
one
higher
for
the
part-time
g10
position.
We
had
the
funding
for
that
and
that
particular
position
is
addressing
our
immediate
need
that
we
had
when
I
first
took
office,
which
is
archiving
in
the
warehouse.
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So
we
do
have
an
employee
that
has
been
hired
for
that
purpose,
but
as
January
2019
evolved,
we
realized
that
we
need
someone
dedicated
to
processing
efile
documents,
and
so
now
we
are
requesting
the
other
part-time
g10
position
and
funding
for
that
position.
Which
brings
me
to
my
next
slide
and
that's
the
salary
request,
rationale
and
the
reason
for
that
prior
to
be
filing
being
mandatory
again,
people
would
come
in,
they
would
fall
over
the
counter.
That
would
be
between
8:30
and
5:00
o'clock.
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Our
deputy
clerks
interfaced
with
the
customers
face-to-face
communicated
with
them
and
if
they
wanted
to
get
the
documents
filed
on
that
day,
they
had
to
come
by
five
o'clock
now,
with
mandatory
filing
filing
is
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week
and
on
average,
where
we
come
in
waiting
in
our
queues,
there
are
as
many
both
state
and
Superior
Court
as
many
as
a
hundred
documents
awaiting
processing
and
so
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
ever
come
to
the
clerk's
office,
but
routinely
when
I
get
to
work.
I.
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U
They
go
to
court,
they
send
out
notices,
they
do
military
discharges,
they
divorce
adoptions
and
so
the
workload
they
have
a
full
workload
right
there
between
8:30
and
5:00,
and
so
these
documents
waiting
in
these
queues
need
attention
and
they
need
attention
just
like
they
would.
If
they,
if
someone
had
brought
them
in
over
the
counter-
and
so
we
are
that's
one
of
the
reasons
for
requesting
the
the
an
employee
dedicated
for
that
function,
my
next
slide
in
the
most
problems.
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U
The
reason
why
it
is
so
long,
each
document
that
comes
in
out
of
the
hundred
average
it
takes
anywhere
from
15
minutes
to
hours,
to
process
depending
on
the
document,
and
let
me
tell
you
why
we
don't
have
a
case
manager
system,
we're
one
of
the
few
counties,
I
think
there's
only
one
other
County
that
doesn't
have
a
case
management
system.
Our
case
management
system
is
set
to
launch
next
summer,
2020
late
summer
next
year.
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In
the
meantime,
we
still
have
got
to
process
these
documents,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
is
required
when
processing
these
documents
are
a
lot
of
repetitive
steps.
First,
we
have
to
put
it
into
mainframe
and
we
have
to
put
it
into
different
systems
until
we
get
our
case
management
system,
because
these
systems
do
not
interface,
and
so
we
have
to
put
it
into
mainframe,
which
is
the
system
we
currently
have
that's
being
converted
into
our
case
management
system.
We
also
have
to
efiling
vendors,
we
have
Tyler
and
we
have
peach
court.
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So
we
have
to
implement
the
documents
into
both
of
those
systems,
and
then
we
have
to
put
it
into
our
content
manager
system.
That
particular
system
gives
the
filer
access
to
the
documents.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
repetitive
steps,
because
the
systems
do
not
interface,
so
each
document
has
got
to
be
put
into
multiple
systems
and
process,
and
so
that
is
very
time-consuming,
and
so
this
dedicated
employee
dedicated
to
this
function
can
be
basically
just
do
this
so
that
our
deputy
clerks
are
g12
level.
H
U
F
F
F
U
F
B
O
U
That,
yes
and
one
of
the
other
things
that
Angelica
X
had
explained
to
me
that
if
I
limited
that
position
to
20
hours,
I
would
need
nine
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
that
was
going
to
be
playing
be-because.
But
without
the
case
management
system,
I
need
the
24
hours.
I
need
that
employee
at
20
I
need
the
twelve
thousand.
A
B
A
U
E
U
K
U
Were
working
on
that
the
the
glitch
has
been,
what
would
work
with
the
case
management
system
and
I'm?
Not
sure,
and
that's
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
say
with
the
case
management
system.
We
have
a
lot
of
question
marks
because
the
case
management
system
and
some
aspects
is
going
to
do
a
lot
of
things
for
us
and
other
aspects
that
we
don't
quite
know
what
we're
required
to
do
and
what
the
case
management
system
will
entail.
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We're
thinking
that
the
case
management
system
will
be
we'll
put
that
do
that
for
us
and
so
I
guess.
Maybe
the
thought
is:
there's
no
sense
in
us
doing
it
now,
when
next
summer,
late
next
summer
2020
the
case
management
system
is
supposed
to
handle
that,
for
us
and
also
I
have
to
make
some
decisions.
Because,
right
now
we
have
the
2
e
file
and
vendors.
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We
have
peach
court
and
we
have
Tyler,
but
the
case
management
system
is
a
subsidiary
of
Tyler,
so
peach
court
will
probably
maybe
be
faced
that
we
have
to
make
that
decision
and
of
course,
if
you're
using
the
same
umbrella,
then
the
case
management
system
should
be
able
to
just
go
straight
into
another
Tyler
product.
And
so
that's
that's.
What
we're
we're
learning
right
now
as
we
go
through
the
process
and
there
are
lots
and
lots
of
meetings
and
training
sessions,
but
we're
working
through
that.
So.
K
U
Because
one
of
the
things
we
did
figure
out
is
even
with
the
case
management
system,
we
would
still
need
an
employee
dedicated
to
e-file
and
based
on
the
volume,
that's
coming
in,
that's
an
additional
duty
for
our
deputy
clerks,
and
so
we
do
need
a
dedicated
employee.
Even
in
them
I
mean
it
really
is
a
full-time
position,
but
you
know
like
again:
I
would
like
to
say:
I
got
the
memo
about
the
budget
being
really
really
tight,
and
so
we
have
decided
to
just
limit
that
to
a
part-time
position
and
work
our
way
through.
So.
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H
A
So
well,
I
will
kill
you.
I
was
just
sitting
here,
thinking
the
council
house
and
council
Alan.
Somebody
told
us
the
other
day
talking
about
Tyler
and
how
much
further
down
the
road,
the
actual
implementation
by
Tyler
will
be
than
what
we
had
originally
thought.
It
would
be
because
we
approved
council
approved
the
contract
with
Tyler
two
years.
K
A
U
And
I
think
the
other
County
was
also
it
may
be
Forsyth,
but
it's
because
of
mainframe
mainframe
is
pretty
old.
Was
it
started
in
1970
or
something
19
1988
and
they
are
having
some
challenges:
converting
mainframe
into
a
case
management
system
where
I
guess
other
counties
had
their
own
updated
versions
of
a
case
management
system
that
could
easily
convert
their
having
a
lot
of
challenges
with
mainframe
is
what's
been
told
to
us
and.
A
What
one
of
our
concerns
was,
is
the
three
of
us
talked
about
it?
The
other
day
was
we
want.
We
don't
want
to
be
caught
by
some
Authority,
not
doing
what
we
are
supposed
to
be
doing.
You
know
the
oh
I
know
what
it
was.
The
recorders
court
says
that
certain
information
has
to
be
entered
into
the
state
system
within
a
certain
period.
A
K
D
A
Ma'am
counselor
I
mean
a
clerk.
We
our
process
is
that
this
is
now
on
the
add
list,
your
request
and
at
our
meeting
next
Tuesday
we
will
be
going
through
the
add
delete
list
to
make
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
add
our
to
delete.
There's
been
no
voted
as
yet
on
this,
but
will
be
next
week,
and
we
usually
do
it
in
the
order
that
you
know
that
you
guys
come
to
us,
but
you
don't
need
to
necessarily
be
here
unless
you
just
want
to
come,
spend
some
time
with
counsel.
What.
A
V
V
V
Now
that's
been
taken
care
under
I
t's
budget
to
not
necessarily
undermine
the
issue
that
we
really
are
trying
to
address,
and
you
notice
I
did
not
provide
you
with
a
PowerPoint,
because
it's
going
to
be
very
brief
and
I
think
you
need
to
understand
that
the
things
we're
looking
at,
though,
really
primarily,
there
are
two
key
areas
here.
One
is
Trowell
schools
and
conferences
where
we're
almost
increasing
that
by
ninety
seven
hundred
dollars.
We're
asking
for
that
that
consideration,
because
we've
got
professionals
in
our
office
that
need
to
be
trained.
V
They
need
to
be
going
to
meet
entities,
conferences
and
I
have
purposely
held
back
on
that,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
money's
gonna
be
there
when
we
get
to
some.
Some
particular
issue
later
on
I've
been
trying
to
be
very
frugal
with
that.
My
may
be
too
frugal
in
some
cases,
but
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
folks
to
the
right
conferences
and
right
in
the
right
areas.
V
There
are
several
conferences
we
probably
should
have
sent
to
folks
too,
but
again
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we
watch
that
are
our
budgets,
which
we
possibly
can
the
other.
The
other
will
really
increase
here
is
about
$3,800
in
terms
of
education
and
training
increases,
that's
also
somewhat
for
staff,
but
I've
got
to
thinking
about
from
a
conversation
I
had
earlier
during
council
meeting
this
morning.
That
reminded
me
that
we
also
are
responsible
for
training
these
these
these
boards,
that
we
do
serve
the
playing
advisory.
V
V
When
it's
all
said
and
done,
we've
got
some
couple
other
things
like
copy
of
charges
and
things
of
that
nature
on
here,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
actually
function
as
a
department
it's
next
year
in
doing
in
dealing
with
would
travel
and
with
education
components.
If
you
were
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
history
of
my
budget,
the
planning
part
is
vegetables.
Last
three
to
five
years,
you're
going
to
see
it's
pretty
much
consistent!
V
V
It's
just
now
time
from
my
perspective
anyway,
to
come
to
you
directly
and
say
we
need
some
assistance
with
this
in
terms
of
trying
to
make
sure
that,
as
a
plaintiff
part
we're
doing
the
things
we're
supposed
to
do
the
things
that
you
expect
us
to
do
on
a
day
to
day
basis.
So
with
that,
madam
chair
I
would
I
would
ask
for
your
consideration
on
that
to
help
us
increase
our
budget,
so
we
can
again
perform
the
duties.
You
expect
us
to
do.
A
T
A
H
S
S
On
May
6,
the
council
committee
and
staff
met
in
the
clerk
of
counsel's
office,
the
committee
members
of
staff
that
were
present
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Evelyn
Turner
pew
councillor,
Bruce
Huff
assistant
city
attorney,
Lucy
chef
tall
and
Human
Resources
Director
riether
Halliwell
councillor
Allen
had
a
scheduling
conflict.
Therefore
he
was
not
present.
A
A
B
B
Reclassify
the
administrative
secretary
position,
GTM
position
to
a
deputy
clerk
pro-temp
g12c.
The
amount
is
three
thousand
three
dollars
and
to
reclassify
the
administrative
SEC
rule
time.
Administrative
secretary,
g10,
a2,
g10,
see
that
amount
is
one
thousand
seven
hundred
and
four
dollars.
So
the
total
amount
of
all
three
items
is
twenty
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
eighty
four
dollars
and.
A
B
A
I
B
I
A
A
B
W
Yes,
ma'am
good
afternoon,
we're
not
here
to
ask
for
funding
increase,
but
what
we
are
here
for
today
is
to
ask
for
authorization
to
adjust
our
budget.
We
want
to
move
the
$5,000
sets
in
sworn
overtime
into
our
operating
budget,
the
uniform
contracts
that
we
had.
They
no
longer
make
the
gray
trouser
they're,
not
making
great
trials
or
anywhere
so
we're
going
to
have
to
get
new
uniform
trousers.
So
we
want
to
move
the
money.
That's
currently
budgeted
for
flan
over
time
into
our
operating
budget.
W
A
We
don't
at
this
point,
know
anything
about
what
we're
going
to
do
there,
except
that
we
want
to
do
an
analysis,
so
I'm
sure
that
at
some
point,
hopefully
in
the
very
near
future,
you'll
be
hearing
from
the
appropriate
person
to
participate
in
the.
In
this
analysis,
and
in
this
study
we
know
that
we
we've
got
to
address
those
issues
and
I'm,
assuming
that
you
will
be
willing
to
help
with
that
study.
Always.
B
B
X
Do
the
heavy
lifting
on
this
but
hello,
everyone
good
to
see
you
thank
you
for
having
us
here
today.
I'm
gonna
read
this
and
then
she
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
This
has
been
approved
by
CSU,
which
was
the
first
question.
I
was
asked
by
someone
earlier.
This
is
basically
changing
from
a
g13
to
a
g16,
which
is
an
increase
of
three
grades
because
she
is
currently.
This
is
by
the
way:
Miss
Gail,
dykes,
she's,
currently
a
g13
J.
X
X
We
then
find
this
amount
on
the
G
16
line,
which
is
G
16
G,
so
her
new
annual
salary
would
be
45
to
point
32,
which
comes
to
32
27
and
32,
plus
FICA,
for
a
total
of
an
increase
of
three
thousand
seven
hundred
forty
nine
dollars
and
we
it'll
be
revenue
revenue
neutral,
because
we
have
figured
out
a
way
to
save
the
salary
by
someone,
that's
leaving
and
just
delay,
hiring
somebody
and
and
handle
it
that
way.
This
is
Miss.
X
Mrs.
dykes
is
the
deputy
director
of
the
juvenile
court.
She
has
a
lot
more
responsibility
than
she
did
when
she
first
started.
We
have
a
lot
more
programs,
thanks
to
a
certain
judge
that
we've
started
and
we
have
a
lot
more
oversight.
So
we
need
her
in
that
deputy
director
position
and
she's,
never
gotten
race
that
she's
been
there.
So
all.
B
L
A
H
X
B
A
Wondering
if
between
now
and
then
miss
Alexander,
if
they're,
if
there's
information
that
the
council
would
like
to
have
you
send
to
us
I,
would
at
least
like
a
revised,
add
delete
list
so
that
I
can
take
a
look
at
it
before
that
Tuesday
morning
and
try
to
make
some
decisions
in
my
own
mind
of
how
what
I
want
to
do
with
some
of
those
positions.
So
anything
else
that
the
council
would
request
of
the
finance
department.