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A
B
Mayor
skip
Henderson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley
pops,
Barnes
district,
one
Glenn
Davis
district
2,
Bruce
Huff
District
3,
Toya,
Tucker,
District,
4,
Charmaine,
crab
District,
5,
Gary,
Allen,
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
District
Six
Mimi
Woodson
district
7,
Walker
Garrett,
District,
8,
Judy,
Thomas,
post
nine
at
large
counselor
John
house,
Post
10
at
large
counselor,
Sandra,
Davis,
Clerk
of
counsel
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
Faye,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
city
council.
C
City
council
meeting
and
we're
glad
to
have
you
with
us
this
evening.
We
are
going
to
begin
this
meeting
as
we
begin
all
of
ours.
That's
by
asking
God's
presence
on
these
proceedings,
and
we
have
scheduled
to
visit
with
us
I
think
Pastor
Seth,
Hahn,
From,
Grace,
Baptist
Church
of
Columbus.
This
is
Pastor
Han
here,
I
didn't
see
him
and
Lou
that
I'm
going
to
ask
our
mayor
Pro
tem
to
to
lead
our
prayer
this
evening.
D
Pray
with
me
God,
we
come
to
you
now
thanking
you
for
this
day
and
the
ability
to
come
together.
Thank
you
for
our
health
and
the
ability
to
work
with
those
that
we
have
worked
with
over
the
years.
We
thank
you
for
those
that
are
attendants
and
those
watching.
We
ask
you
to
bless
their
families
and
their
lives
in
the
way
you
only
you
can
be
with
us
now
as
we
go
through
this
meeting,
help
us
to
do
your
work
and
keep
you
in
mind,
as
we
do
that.
C
You
Mr
Pro
tem
and
even
though
Pastor
Hahn
was
not
able
to
make
it,
we
want
to
thank
them
for
the
for
the
way
they
served
the
city
of
Columbus.
They
really
look
after
our
Public
Safety
officers.
They
host
an
annual
service
for
them
every
year
and
regret
that
he
didn't
make
it,
but
we
certainly
are
grateful
for
the
way
they
serve
the
folks
of
this
community.
If
you
would
please
rise
and
join
me
in
our
pledge
to
the
flag.
C
All
right
counselors,
you
should
have
a
car,
have
been
given
a
copy
of
the
October
11th
minutes
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
minutes,
any
edits
or
any
corrections.
Hearing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
post,
all
right.
The
minutes
are
are
approved.
I'm
gonna
call
up
first
thing
from
the
city
attorneys
agenda.
We've
got
some
folks
here
that
are
visiting
from
out
of
town
and
they
need
to
try
to
beat
this
weather
as
they
head
on
back
and
so
I'm
gonna
ask
for
enjoy
Angelica
to
come
up
front.
C
First,
we'll
deal
with
the
the
bond
issues.
I.
C
E
F
Good
evening,
members
of
council
Mississippi
manager,
Mr
Mayor,
as
you
all
may
recall.
Several
weeks
ago,
Deputy
city
manager,
Hodge
and
I
came
before
this
Council
to
request
approval
to
purchase
tesys
building.
It
is
directly
adjacent
to
the
public
safety
building
and
in
close
proximity
to
the
jail.
This
will
house
the
sheriff's
office
administration.
F
We
requested
to
issue
Columbus
building
authority
bonds
to
finance
the
renovation
for
the
facility.
We
will
be
utilizing
olos
reserves
to
purchase
the
building,
but
we
issued
bonds
to
provide
for
the
renovations
of
the
building.
So,
as
you
all
may
see
on
the
agenda
today,
we
issued
those
bonds.
Earlier
today
we
issued
about
12.45
million
in
bonds.
G
Thank
you
Angelica
good
evening,
everyone,
it's
great
to
be
here.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
real
quick
of
course,
we
just
went
through
a
couple
of
bond
issues
earlier
this
year,
so
we
had
to
talk
to
the
races
again
when
we
do
each
issue
we
we
go
through
and
get
a
bond
rating
because
they
rate
each
issue
as
we
go
of
course,
of
the
issues
we've
we've
already
gone
through
with
this
is
the
smallest
of
the
three.
So
this
is
sort
of
the
last
one.
G
Last
time
we
talked
to
the
radio
agencies
back
in
January,
we
here
we
are
now
in
basically
October.
We
didn't
have
final
audit
to
talk
to
talk
to
them
about
yet.
So
we
just
kind
of
gave
an
update
on
where
things
were
headed
and
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
we
we
kept
our
ratings
at
a
double
A
Plus,
with
with
s
p
and
a
double
a
two
with
Moody's,
basically
Moody's
at
the
Double
A
two.
G
Their
challenges
that
they're
looking
at
for
us
are
basically
the
additional
debt
that
we've
been
adding
and
also
the
they
they
look
at
the
Reliance
on
the
sales
tax
and,
of
course,
those
sales
tax
are
dependent
upon
what's
going
on
in
the
economy.
So
they
look
at
that
as
one
of
the
risks,
but
on
the
good
side
is
they
said
we
still
have
a
very
healthy
financial
position.
So
you
know
you
all
have
done
a
great
job
of
getting
yourselves
into
the
position.
G
We
didn't
have
a
lot
of
debt
going
into
these
issues
this
year,
and
so
we
were
able
to
take
on
this
debt
and
knowing
that
there,
at
least
at
this
point,
there's
no
other
major
Capital
issues
that
we
have
out
there
that
we
need
to
take
care
of.
So
we
should
be
set
for
a
while
from
the
standpoint
of
any
new
new
issues.
G
So
we,
as
Angelica,
said
today,
we
actually
sold
the
bonds
we
put
them
out
for
bid
at
11
o'clock.
We
had
seven
bidders
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen
here
they
ranged
from
the
lowest
tic
at
a
431
to
a
high
of
a
453..
Once
we
add
the
cost
of
issuance,
the
all-in.
True
interest
cost
was
four
and
a
half
percent.
G
This
page
kind
of
gives
you
the
issues.
Essentially
their
five
percent
coupons.
The
yields
you
can
see
are
lower.
What
happens?
Is
they
end
up
wanting
a
little
bit
higher
coupon,
so
they
give
us
a
little
bit
lower
yield
in
return.
We
don't
have
to
issue
as
much
debt
to
produce
the
13
million.
We
need
for
the
project,
so
we're
able
to
actually
issue
a
little
bit
lower
bonds.
G
Dollars
a
year
for
the
first,
several
years
until
some
of
the
debt,
existing
debt
falls
off
graphically.
You
can
see
it's
it's
basically
pretty
level
for
a
few
years
and
it's
going
to
drop
off
until
it
goes
out
to
the
the
older
issues
drop
off
out
there
in
2040..
G
So
I
thought
it
might
be
interesting
for
you
to
see
where
we
have
been
and
where
we
are
today.
So
this
is
the
interest
rate,
the
graphics,
the
left
graph
is
the
20-year
AAA
MMD,
which
is
basically
assuming
a
triple
A
rated
entity.
It's
the
guide
that
we
use
in
our
industry
and
you
can
see
going
back
to
the
year.
2000
we've
been
in
a
generally
downward
sloping
interest
rate
environment
until
recently,
of
course,
and
that
that
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
we
sold
the
refunding
bonds
back
in
2019.
G
You
can
see
that
blue
line.
Then
we
had
some
very
low
rates
when
we
issued
the
22
2022,
A
and
B
bonds
earlier
this
year,
but
since
then
rates
have
been
rising.
As
you
all
know,
the
FED
has
been
raising
interest
rates,
so
that's
driven
our
market
up
at
the
bottom.
You
can
kind
of
see
a
chart.
The
refinancing
we
did
had
a
240
all
ntic.
We
were
at
a
162
on
the
judicial
Center.
Those
were
shorter
bonds.
The
20-year
bonds
that
we
did
for
the
admin
building
were
the
242.
G
So
we've
actually
we've
seen
the
market
increase
about
200
basis
points,
since
we
issued
the
administrative
bonds
Administrative
building
bonds
earlier
this
year,
but
I
will
say
if
you
look
back
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
that
chart
we're
kind
of
where
the
market
was
back
in
2010
to
2015.
and
I'll.
Tell
you
when
we
were
at
that
point
in
time
we
were
like
four
percent.
This
is
great
money,
so
we're
kind
of
back
to
that
level.
G
It
kind
of
feels
a
little
different,
because
we
saw
these
ridiculously
low
interest
rates
over
the
last
several
years.
But
the
good
news
is:
when
you
look
at
those
numbers
we
issued
130
million
at
a
162.
We
issued
50
million
at
a
240.
we've
averaged
down,
so
we
got
most
of
the
larger
parts
of
the
financing
that
were
needed
for
the
various
buildings
that
were
taken
care
of.
G
So
where
do
we
go
from
here
so
earlier
today,
the
ability
Authority
approved
all
the
documents,
we're
asking
you
all
to
to
ratify
the
supplemental
Bond
resolutions
improve
the
contract
today
and
then
Council
legal
counsel
will
move
to
validation,
Bond
validation,
and
then
we
will
close
on
the
bonds
scheduled
for
November
22nd,
so
Mr
Mayor
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
And
a
little
bump
in
the
interest
rates,
but
I
appreciate
you
putting
them
in
perspective.
The
way
you
did
to
remind
us
that
it
wasn't
that
long
ago,
when
those
were
considered
pretty
good
rates,
Mr
city
manager.
H
G
Sure
Doug
Eckhart
with
me
at
Davenport
company
and
then
Jim
Pennell
and
Stephen
Swinson
with
great
panel
and
Woodward,
their
legal
counsel,
contact
yeah.
C
J
C
C
We
have
a
proclamation
for
National
American,
Indian,
Heritage,
Month
receiving
is
Malone
Moore
and
the
Daughters
of
the
American
Revolution
American
Indians
committee.
They
want
to
come
forward
and
counselor
John
house
is
going
to
present
this.
Thank
you
mayor
welcome,
ladies.
K
C
You
want
to
give
us
your
names,
and
let
us
know
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
about
the
daughters
of
see
how
y'all
got
here.
L
M
C
All
right,
Mr
city
manager,
you
want
to
call
up
item
one
on
your
agenda.
H
Mr
Mayor
I'm
in
Council
I
am
pleased
to
present
my
candidate
to
fill
the
position
of
director
plan
in
for
Columbus
Georgia
and
that
person
we
all
know
him
is
Will
Johnson
and
I'm
going
to
ask
him
to
come
to
the
podium.
H
So
I
see
the
the
smiles
will
Johnson
is,
is
no
stranger
to
us.
You
know,
will
we
know
you
will
we'll
will
work
for
more
than
20
years
in
the
planning
department
here
at
the
Columbus
consolidated
government,
he
left
the
ccg
in
February
of
this
year
to
move
on
to
bigger
and
better
things.
He
thought.
H
H
H
He
is
responsible
for
the
Udo
that
you
all
wrestle
with
all
the
time
and
that's
just
to
name
a
few
but
Will's
knowledge
background
and
experience
and
planning
will
provide
for
a
good
transition
to
his
new
role
of
planning
director
for
the
city
of
Columbus,
we'll
come
recommended
by
my
selection
team.
H
That's
composed
of
Deputy
city
managers,
Pam
High,
who
he
will
report
directly
to
and
Deputy
city
manager,
Lisa
Goodwin,
the
finance
director,
Angelica,
Alexander
and
Human
Resources,
Director,
Aretha,
Hollowell
I
believe
will
will
thrive
in
this
new
role
and
move
our
community
forward
in
a
cohesive
plan.
Creative
direction
that
follows
a
sound
practices
in
planning
and
transportation
planning
will
is
well-educated
man.
He
graduated
from
Hardaway
high
school.
He
holds
two
bachelor's
degrees
from
Auburn
University
and
history
and
political
science.
H
H
But
will
has
started
his
doctorate's
degree
at
Valdosta,
State
University
in
public
administration.
He
worked
as
an
Adjunct
professor
at
Chattahoochee.
Valley
Community
College
for
almost
three
years
will
is
ready
to
come
home
and
he's
ready
to
go
to
work,
and
so
mayor
and
Council
I'm
requesting
confirmation
of
will
Johnson
for
the
position
of
director
plan.
N
N
You
mentioned
the
the
degree
from
Georgia
I
had
a
Alicia.
Smith
was
a
reporter
here,
and
she
came
in
my
office
one
day
and
she
said
y'all
this
Georgia
stuff
in
your
office,
but
that's
Auburn
degree
I,
said
well.
I
got
to
fix
that
so
I
fixed
it.
It
turns
out.
It
was
a
good
thing.
I
did
because
cvcc
made
child
support
payments
when
I
needed
it
to
so
that
worked
out
well,
but
I'm
glad
to
be
back.
N
I
don't
feel
like
I've
missed
a
beat
because
my
phone
stays
busy
from
Columbus
and
it
will
stay
busy,
I'm
sure
from
Marion
County
when
I
get
back
but
glad
to
be
home.
This
has
always
been
home.
This
is
my
really
my
first
job
career
type
job
out
of
as
an
adult
and
ready
to
keep
it
going.
Do
some
new
things
get
some
new
ideas
going
and
hit
the
ground
running
next
Monday.
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
N
C
P
Q
C
He's
too
busy
shaking
hands
all
right.
We
we
have
another
nominee
for
a
position
here
in
the
government
and
I'm
going
to
invite
Donna
McGinnis
to
come
to
the
podium.
I
think
she's
here.
C
C
C
C
C
Well,
there's
a
motion
and
a
second
to
delay.
Is
there
any
conversation
associated
with
the
delay
request
for
delay?
Is
there
a
time
certain
that
you
want
it
delayed.
I
C
C
All
right
next
is
a
I
think
we've
got
a
the
add-on,
is
on
your
agenda,
so
I
think
we
can
go
on
to
the
city
attorney's
agenda
with
this.
C
E
E
F
C
C
T
I've
received
concerns
regarding
the
promotion
for
ease
and
I
know.
Some
of
them
may
be
addressed
by
you,
Mr
Mayor,
you
mentioned
something
about
freezing
the
list,
and
that
was
one
of
the
concerns
was
that
the
list
would
become
deluded.
If
there's
a
moratorium
put,
and
somebody
has
left
left
out
for
a
year,
there'll
be
additional
candidates,
but
not
enough
positions
to
fill
I
know
you
had
to
have
something
to
say
on
that.
So.
C
C
So
we
have
talked
about
and
I
know
that
the
assistant
City
attorney
has
spoken
with
the
Chiefs
about
the
promotion
list,
and
that's
where
the
concern
is.
Is
that
if
there
are
people
already
on
the
list
and
if
that
list
is
somehow
changed
because
there's
some
others
that
pass
and
get
on
that
list
or
Worse
some
age
off
of
it,
that
they
would
have
been
denied
an
opportunity.
C
So
our
recommendation
was
to
freeze
the
entire
process
to
include
all
lists,
not
subtract
from
or
add
to
so
I'm
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
make
that
in
addition
to
that
or
if
we
just
need
to
meet
with
the
Chiefs
and
tell
them
that
that
process
is
Frozen,
including
the
promotion
list.
C
All
right
to
motion
to
amend
this
and
and
place
in
there
that
they
are
to
keep
the
current
promotion
list
in
place
until
this
freeze
is
removed.
U
A
C
R
This
is
to
the
motion
I'm
wondering
if
we
shouldn't
bring
this
back
to
first
first
reading,
so
we
can
hear
from
the
Chiefs
we
can
hear
from
people
on
the
list
and
make
sure
I
know
we
have
people
in
the
audience
today.
I
I
just
want
clarification
because
counselor
Thomas
said
she
thinks
that
this
is
how
it
works.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
how
it
works,
that
we're
not
just
thinking
that
this
is
how
it
works,
and
then
it
then
we
vote
on
it
and
then
something
else
gets
pulled
up.
C
My
fear
is
that
we,
by
doing
nothing
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
going
to
put
folks
in
danger
of
being
damaged,
financially
Council
Thomas,
while
he's
coming.
Did
you
have
something.
U
We
do
have
a
motion
to
delay
on
the
table
and
that
would
that
would
mean
that
this
first
reading
is
delayed
until
a
Time
certain.
If,
if
that's
what
it
is,
and
that
because
of
that,
everything
continues.
C
Chief
help
us
out
here
we're
trying
to
I
think
what
council's
trying
to
do
is
the
right
thing
by
by
making
sure
nobody's
damaged
financially,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
there's,
not
six
people
or
ten
people
added
to
promotion
lists
that
are
already
in
play.
Can
we
pause
and
freeze
the
entire
process.
J
J
A
J
J
The
current
Captain's
list
is
scheduled
to
expire
in
December
of
2022.,
and
so
we
currently
have
a
promotional
process
underway
now,
where,
whereas
in
accordance
to
city
ordinance
the
information
regarding
the
announcement
regarding
picking
up
steady
material,
let
me
back
up
regarding
the
announcement
regarding
signing
up
for
the
promotional
process
regarding
picking
up
study
material
is
underway,
as
well
as
notifying
the
candidates
once
that
list
has
been
certified.
The
candidate
list
has
been
certified
for
this
promotional
process.
J
Then
the
dates
have
been
established
as
far
as
the
exam
date,
the
the
date
for,
as
well
as
the
date
for
the
assessment
center.
So
we
so
what
goes
on
with
selecting
the
date
for
the
assessment
center
is
contacting
police
officers
throughout
the
state
or
the
surrounding
area
to
serve
as
Assessors
for
our
promotional
process.
So.
J
V
J
J
J
B
C
J
J
So
then
the
the
sergeant
position
is
a
promoted
position,
so
that
position
has
to
be
filled
within
30
days.
According
to
ordinance,
the
deputy
chief
position
is
an
appointed
position
and-
and
there
is
no
set
number
of
days
written
into
our
ordinance
as
to
timeline
for
promotion
or
appointment.
Excuse
me.
S
A
R
C
J
C
C
U
U
J
Well,
if
you
don't
freeze
it,
then
if,
if
I
decide
to
go
forward
with
a
promotion,
then
you
know
it'd
be
my
discretion
is.
If
I
want
to
do
the
promotion
before
this
expires
or
because
right
now,
it
would
be
just
the
sergeant
position
that
will
it
has
to
be
filled.
The
other
position
is
an
opponent
position,
so
there's
no
timeline
in
which
that
has
to
be
filled.
U
I'm
sorry
I
guess:
I
misunderstood
you
I
thought.
You
said
that
the
current
lieutenants
list
expires
in
30.
The
31st
is
that
first.
W
U
If,
if
I'm
on
the
list
and
I'm
my
time
on
that
list,
is
it
should
I
should
come
off
at
the
next
expiration?
Are
there
people
who
are
on
that
list
now?
Who
will
not
be
on
the
list?
Come
the
next
the
next
day,
so
people
who
are
currently.
J
J
List,
yes,
so
so
so
the
current
the
current
lieutenants
Liz
aspires,
January
2023
and
the
captain's
list
expires
December
1st
2022,
but
that
assessment
it's
in
the
process
will
be
held
from
December
the
5th
through
the
8th
of
2022.,
so
in
other
words
at
least
for
a
captain
that
expires
on
the
first
of
December
2022.
J
The
assessment
center
starts
December,
the
5th
2022
and
so
those
individuals
that
process
as
I
stated
earlier,
is
already
in
place,
and
so
those
individuals
would
have
already
had
an
opportunity
to
sign
up
and
prepare
to
go
through
the
Assessments
in
the
process.
Now
that
list
is
already
established.
Who
would
be
going
through
that
Assessments
in
the
process
in
December
that
this
is
already
in
place
and
that
this
includes
some
of
those
individuals
who
are
currently
only
missed
now.
A
C
R
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
throw
something
out
here
and
see
if
this
would
fix
the
prop
fix
the
problem
in
a
real
estate
transaction.
If
a
property
comes
off
comes
off
of
the
market
and
then
say
it's
off
the
market
for
30
days
and
then
the
the
contract
EX,
you
know,
gets
terminated,
then
you
we
automatically
there's
language
in
the
contract
in
the
listing
agreement
that
that
listing
agreement
is
extended
for
the
amount
of
time
that
it
was
under
contract.
R
So
I'm
wondering
if
we
couldn't
add
some
language
to
this,
to
where
the
people
that
are
currently
on
the
list
there
they
are
extended
past
the
ending
of
of
that's
already
established,
but
they
are
extended
out
for
the
number
of
days
that
we
were
frozen
for
just
those
people
on
that
on
this
list.
Currently,
so
we
freeze
it
that
would
be
like
us
going
under
contract
and
then
when
we
come,
then
when
it
comes
back
those
these
individuals
their
they
remain
on
the
list.
J
As
I
said
earlier,
we
currently
have
a
promotional
process
underway
now
we
we,
where
we
are
contracted
through
the
the
University
of
Georgia,
to
facilitate
our
promotional
process.
So
if
a
delay
is
is
approved,
then
we
have
set
aside
from
the
current
list.
C
K
Thank
you,
Mayors
28th
achieve
Our
intention
of
I.
Believe
I'm
speaking
of
everybody
is
not
to
affect
that
next
year,
whatever
you're
doing
for
the
next
list
should
happen,
what
we're
concerned
about
is
the
people
that
are
on
the
list
right
now
that
are
affected
by
the
moratorium
and
I
think
what
council
crab
was
talking
about.
They
will
discuss
over
the
next
two
weeks
is
how
to
make
sure
the
language
is
right,
so
that
so
whoever's
on
the
list.
Right
now
is
that
the
eligibility
is
slides
as
long
as
the
moratorium's
in
effect
yep.
That's.
C
Q
Mayor
based
on
all
the
information
and
all
the
questions
and
on
Clarity
around
the
table,
are
we
going
to
have
like
a
special
call
meeting
or
are
we
going
to
meet
in
groups
or
stuff
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
clear
understanding
of
what
direction
we're
going
in
because
I
I
was
confused,
I
was
clear,
then
I
was
confused
and
I
was
clear.
Now
I
was
confused
and
I
said
you
know
what
let's
delay
it.
C
What
we
will
do
is
we'll
bring
back
a
couple
of
different
options
on
how
to
handle
this
and
we'll
be
specific
in
what
IT
addresses
and
what
it
ends
up.
Allowing
us
to
do.
The
city
attorney's
already
got
some
language
that
I
think
is
going
to
come
very
close
to
solving
it.
It's
a
lot
like
what
council
crab
was
saying.
Q
Q
You
city
manager,
can
you
ensure
we
have
a
discussion
even
if
it's
four
or
five
of
us
at
a
time
like
we
do
for
other
things,
because
this
is
really
complicated,
and
this
really
has
to
do
with
people's
lives,
and
it
has
to
also
do
with
the
pay
study.
So
it's
not
something
you
can
just
get
it
an
email,
read
it
and
make
a
choice,
it's
something
that
we
need
to
discuss
among
each
other
and
the
problems
and
cons
like
we
do
in
other
critical
situations
that
we're
going
to
vote
on
so
I'm
requesting
it.
Q
A
E
All
right
all
right,
that'll,
be
back
in
two
weeks
with
more
possible
amendments,
one
or
more
to
address
the
chief's
issues.
Next
item
mayor
is
second
reading
of
the
court
reporter
license
exemption.
C
Motion
second,
to
approve
any
discussion
hearing,
none,
please
red
register,
you
votes.
Q
E
X
We
have
Miss
Lucy
Jones
here
and
my
president
of
the
neighborhood
watch
program
in
Holly,
Hills,
Mrs,
Deborah,
Singletary
and
I
just
asked.
You
know
the
the
titles
mixed
up
assistant
director.
Yes,
sir
okay,
because
I'll
call
you
direct
all
the
time
assistant
director
Renfro
if
he
would
just
to
reading
to
the
minutes
what
was
discussed
between
the
group
and
Miss
Lucy
Jones
of
what's
going
on
there,
everybody's
in
agreement.
Y
Y
X
E
E
Okay
mayor
the
next
item:
we're
gonna
have
a
little
more
discussion
on
with
one
of
the
first
at
a
possible
amendment
to
add
the
high
side
market
area
into
the
ordinance
I.
Think
councilor
Woodson
may
have
an
amendment
to
propose
on
that
and
then
we'll
come
as
Hodge
over.
Q
Yes,
it's
I
think
it's
item
six.
No,
that
is
not
hindsight.
I
wanted
to
bring
hindsight
up
for
us
to
vote
as.
Q
He's
just
his
friend
all
right,
I
wanted
to
bring
hindsight
of
to
be
voted
as
an
Entertainment
District,
because
it's
a
small
portion
there
is
no
issues
or
anything
concerned.
It's
concerned
the
responsible
party,
for
that
is
the
petitioner
for
hindsight.
So
I
wanted
to
bring
that
as
to
become
the
first
Entertainment
District
Lucy.
Do
I
need
to
do
anything
else.
Pam
I,
just.
Q
Z
Z
That
the
second
is
high
Side
Market
Entertainment
District,
and
it
is
just
that
one
parcel
so
you'll
see
that
as
number
two
under
section
nine,
which
is
what
councilor
Woodson,
is
asking
for
the
amendment
to
the
ordinance
Chris
Woodruff
the
developer
has
requested.
This
is
one
parcel
and
it
would
be
contained
within
that
one
parcel.
R
N
Z
A
C
C
Motion
and
second
to
and
high
Side
Market
yeah
all
right
any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
I.
E
Z
Absolutely
so
this
is
just
the
presentation
that
we
made
at
the
last
meeting
related
to
The
Tourist
service
vehicle.
That's
a
component
of
this
ordinance
and
provides
for
the
definition
of
that
is
for
a
primary
purpose
is
not
for
transportation,
but
for
touring
and
sightseeing.
So
this
is
the
definition
of
regarding
the
Pedal
Pub
or
any
other
business
that
would
open
with
this
type
of
a
service
and
again
the
Entertainment
District.
What
this
ordinance
does
is
establish
the
framework
to
identify
boundaries
as
the
Entertainment
District.
Z
At
this
point
there
are
two
entertainment
districts
being
proposed:
one
is
the
Uptown
District.
The
other
now
is
high
Side
Market
I
have
had
conversations
with
the
developers
of
Midland,
Commons
and
I
know.
Chris
Whiteman
is
here
and
will
probably
want
to
speak
on
first
reading
related
to
his
particular
development.
Z
We
are
working
through
what
the
boundaries
of
Midland
Commons
Entertainment
District
would
be,
but
that
would
be
again
then
the
Third
District
being
proposed
for
council's
consideration,
and
so
what
this
does
is
limit
one
16
ounce
container
to
carry
around
within
the
boundaries
of
that
District,
11,
A.M
to
11
p.m
and
again
defining
those
boundaries.
So
this
was
the
initial
Uptown
Entertainment
District,
which
was
basically
Broadway
to
Bay,
a
9th
to
14th
Street.
Z
We
did
have
a
public
meeting
and
we
actually
had
two
public
meetings
on
October
19th
one
was
at
two
o'clock
and
one
was
at
5
30..
We
had
approximately
20
individuals
that
came
to
either
one
of
those
meetings.
Some
came
to
both
meetings,
a
lot
of
the
comments
back
and
forth
at
12th,
Street
and
First
Avenue
to
the
Uptown
District.
That
was
one
thing
that
we
heard
at
both
meetings.
There
was
concerns
about
enforcement
safety
and
trash
with
establishing
this
Entertainment
District,
and
this
specifically
related
to
the
Uptown
District.
Z
Most
of
these
comments
some
said
to
leave
Uptown,
as
is
not
in
favor
of
the
district,
and
then
we
had
others
who
were
in
support
of
this
opportunity,
which
I
see
a
lot
of
those
individuals.
Business
owners
are
here
today,
so
I'm
sure
they'll
speak
to
you
about
their
particular
opinion
on
this
Entertainment
District
for
Uptown,
and
then
we
also
heard
from
the
developer
Chris
Woodruff
on
the
high
side,
Market
Entertainment
District,
which
councilor
Woodson
has
added
already
to
the
ordinance.
Z
So
there
are
a
couple
options
for
adding
to
the
Uptown
Entertainment
District
one
is
to
just
include
12th
Street
in
that
Entertainment
District.
So
you
see
that
outlined
in
red.
There
was
another
request
to
also
include
include
First
Avenue,
so
that
would
go
down
11th
Street
down
First
Avenue
and
over
to
10th
Street.
This
does
keep
this
churches
separate
and
segregated
from
being
included
in
this
Entertainment
District,
which
we
thought
was
important
and
that
does
encompass
those
businesses
who
actually
have
an
alcohol
license
that
could
provide
the
carryout.
Z
A
Z
Again,
this
is
a
public
meeting.
It's
on
first
reading
and
I
know
there
are
individuals
who
are
interested
in
speaking
to
council
about
the
entertainment,
District,
mostly
related
to
Uptown
and
I,
know,
there's
a
representative
from
high
side.
If
there's
any
questions
on
that
particular
District
as
well,
Joshua.
C
R
Okay
on
the
map
on
First
Street
between
12th
and
11th,
I
understand
that
on
the
east
side
there
are
churches
there
and
but
on
the
west
side
you
know
will
be
the
government
administration
building
so
I'm
wondering.
Can
we
draw
the
line
down
that
median
right
there,
where
it
doesn't
include
that
block
where
the
churches
are,
but
it
does
so.
People
can
walk,
I'm,
I'm,
envisioning
people
walking
to
the
Springer
from
12th
and
they
would
walk.
They
would
walk
down
First
Street
straight
down
to
the
Springer
or
even
to
the
River
Center.
R
R
R
You
know
down
to
Broadway
to
see
a
concert
or
something,
but
they
could
also
be
walking
to
the
Springer
for
a
play
or
to
the
River
Center
for
a
at
that
venue,
and
it
would
be
a
straight
a
straight
shot
right
there
in
that
between
11th
Street
and
12th
Street
on
First
Street
to
include
that
area,
but
only
on
the
west
side
of
the
street,
not
the
east
side
of
the
street.
So
it
would.
The
barrier
would
go
down
the
median
right
there.
R
C
You
yeah
I,
think
I
think
there
may
be
a
concern
about
trying
to
around
the
table
adjust
the
street
here
in
the
street
there
we're
on
this
question.
Would
it
work
better
to
refer
those
items
back
to
to
get
the
city
manager
Hodge
and
ask
them
to
look
at
which
ones
are
practical
to
incorporate
and
bring
them
back?
Okay,.
R
C
C
U
I'd
like
to
ask
if
Chief
Blackman
would
come
to
the
podium,
I
was
told
that
at
the
two
meetings
that
we
had
about
the
the
Entertainment
District
at
one
of
them,
when
the
and
I
don't
know
which
police
officer
was
there,
but
at
one
of
them
they
said.
Yes,
the
police
force
is
in
favor
of
this
and
can
enforce
it
and
at
the
other
one
they
said
well,
maybe
not
no
I.
Don't
think
that
so
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
chief.
What
your
thoughts
are
chief.
U
A
J
And
who
cannot
possess
certain
open
container
beverages,
open
container
alcoholic
beverages,
and
so,
but
if
we
get
into
a
situation
where
we
don't
have
a
designated
area,
then
it
become
more
complex,
become
it
becomes
more
problematic
because
then
we're
trying
to
determine
who
who
exits
the
the
Pedal
Pub
into
the
into
the
streets
area
with
open
container
or
or
who
does
not.
J
But
the
way
is
more
simplified,
is
to
designate
an
area
where
open
container
is
recognized
in
accordance
with
the
other
stipulations
that
will
be
put
in
place,
and
that
would
make
it
a
lot
more
convenient
for
the
officers
if
they
are
called
into
that
particular
area.
To
say
whether
or
not
this
person
is
in
this
designated
area
and
whether
or
not
they
can
have
an
open
container
versus
someone
being
outside
of
that
area.
J
B
U
U
You
have
the
next
two
next
Tuesday
night,
we're
going
to
have
a
you
know,
a
concert
on
Broadway
and
you
have
to
have
a
permit
for
that
am
I.
Well,.
J
Right
when
concerts
are
held
so
so
permits
are
submitted,
but
but
to
say
that
that
permit
will
allow
for
an
open
container
I
think
we
were
talking
about
something
different
there.
So
it's
my
understanding
with
the
concept
of
having
an
open
container
in
the
designated
area.
That
would
be
some
type
of
agreement.
That's
made
as
to
what
types
of
containers
will
be
used
in
that
designated
area,
so
it
would
be
easily
identified
as
to
whether
or
not
that
should
be
allowed
there,
or
should
it
not
be
allowed
there.
U
And
it
I
believe
and
and
massage
you
may
help
me
with
this.
One
too
I
believe
that
the
the
proposal
is
that
I
could
not
go
from
one
establishment
with
an
open
Con,
where
I
got
an
open
container
into
another
establishment.
With
that
same
open
container.
Is
that
correct.
U
Okay
and
I
want
to
I
want
us
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
settle
on
ultimately
is
conducive
to
both
the
business
of
the
restaurants
and
the
the
bars
downtown
and
our
our
citizens.
One
of
the
things
I
was
told
in
Chief
you
may
or
may
not
want
to
comment
on
this-
is
that
currently
there
could
be
people
in
parking
lots
with
open
containers,
and
this
can
present
a
problem
for
our
officers.
You
know
going
through
those
parking
lots
and,
under
this
provision.
J
J
C
E
AA
I
personally
took
time
to
go
to
the
market,
this
past
Saturday
and
talk
with
people
and
see
what
they
felt
like
and
overwhelmingly
the
vendors
in
market
and
the
business
owners
on
Broadway
that
I
spoke
with
and
the
customers
that
were
enjoying
Uptown
were
in
favor
of
it.
In
fact,
one
of
the
persons
grabbed
the
petition
out
of
my
hand
and
signed
it
and
said
you're
doing
the
work
of
God
here.
So
we
distributed
the
petition
online
where
we
got
in
excess
of
200
signatures.
AA
I
think
we're
currently
at
about
210
of
people,
local
friends
and
family
that
are
in
favor
of
this
and
I
in
just
a
matter
of
an
hour
collected
about
a
hundred
and
well
in
excess
of
a
hundred
signatures
of
people
who
were
patronizing
selling
their
Wares
in
Marketplace
or
I,
walked
into
the
business
and
had
them
sign
so
I.
Think
overwhelmingly
people
have
been
to
cities
that
and
enjoyed
an
Entertainment
District
and
found
it
to
be
something
that
they
would
like
to
see
in
uptown.
C
E
AB
Mayor
council,
my
name
is
Garrett
Lawrence
I
live
at
1222
Monroe
Avenue
in
Columbus,
Georgia
I
am
a
business
owner
of
multitude
and
nonic
that
are
both
located
in
uptown
I'm.
Also
very
much
in
favor
of
this
ordinance.
AB
I
think
you
know.
After
we
went
to
the
presentation.
I
was
in
favor
of
back
in
the
presentation
we
had
in
2018
about
this.
So
I,
don't
think
anything
has
changed,
except
made
me
even
more
strongly
in
favor
of
this
ordinance.
AB
Concerns
were
brought
up
by
by
certain
business
owners
and
and
interested
parties
that
live
in
the
Uptown
Community,
but
I
think
that
it
Bears
out
in
cities
like
Dunwoody
Conyers,
Toccoa,
Savannah,
Atlanta,
Marietta,
Cartersville,
Phoenix,
City
and
Opelika
that
that
they
can
do
this,
and
it
succeeds.
There's
no
CPD,
you
know
mentioned
that
there
hasn't
been
any
increased
strain
on
law
enforcement
as
far
as
responding
to
incidents
or
a
crime,
or
anything
like
that.
AB
One
thing
that
really
stood
out
to
me
when
we
had
our
meeting
was
that
this
ordinance
establishes
an
Entertainment
District
clause
or
law
in
the
city
code.
So
if,
if
we
vote
this
down
for
Uptown,
which,
in
my
opinion
is
for
the
last
20
years,
been
kind
of
a
beacon
for
independent
businesses
for
Hospitality
for
restaurants
for
entertainment,
then
all
of
a
sudden
that
puts
business
owners
in
uptown
behind
those
in
high
Side,
Market
or
Midland
Commons
or
Mid-City
yards.
AB
AB
One
thing
I
heard
mention
in
the
meeting
was
you
know
some
kind
of
extended
trial
in
regards
to
that
I.
Think
we've
had
this
extended
trial
for
about
the
last
10
years.
We
do
a
fall
and
Spring
Concert
Series
every
year,
and
the
only
the
only
negatives
I
heard
out
of
business
owners
from
that
were
that
it
kind
of
the
businesses
that
see
the
the
money.
The
revenue
The
increased
foot
traffic
are
only
those
ones
isolated
on
that
block
where
the
concert's
happening.
AB
AB
One
other
thing
in
regards
to
you
know
if
someone
says
this
would
make
Uptown
less
family
friendly
since
I've
had
two
kids
in
the
last
three
years.
My
oldest
is
two
and
it's
impossible
to
keep
him
sitting
still
in
any
situation.
AB
C
P
P
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
so
I've
been
in
Hospitality
Community
for
eight
years
and
I've
also
been
a
regional
planner
for
three
helping
rural
communities
in
the
river
valley
region,
grow
and
develop
through
comprehensive
plan
Improvement,
which
involves
downtown
revitalization
strategy,
and
my
Hospitality
experience.
I've
seen
the
back
end
of
businesses
and
how
much
small
changes
like
these
can
make
an
impact
on
businesses
bottom
line
as
a
whole
and
I
am
in
support
of
this.
P
By
the
way
passing
this
ordinance
could
result
in
more
patrons
at
downtown
businesses
and
healthy
businesses
that
make
more
money,
are
good
for
business
owners,
they're
good
for
the
employees
and
it's
good
in
term
for
economic
development
as
a
whole.
In
my
travels
across
Georgia
as
a
planner,
helping
communities
identify
strengths,
weaknesses,
opportunities
and
threats,
I've
seen
what
harms
and
cripples
the
growth
of
these
places
populations
and
stagnation
is
one
of
those
things.
P
I
can
tell
you
now
that,
when
people
are
looking
for
places
to
move
and
live
and
work,
they
look
for
a
place
that
has
good
jobs,
good
schools
and
things
to
do.
How
are
we,
a
city
of
200,
000
people
and,
even
more
so,
a
regional
destination
for
visitors
unable
to
keep
what
up
with
what
other
communities
across
Georgia
are
doing
successfully?
P
There's
not
substantial
evidence,
as
seen
by
successful
entertainment
districts
launched
in
places
like
Savannah
and
all
the
other
places
that
Garrett
mentioned,
that
allowing
people
who
are
already
drinking
downtown
to
put
their
beverages
in
a
cup
and
walk
around
outside
will
result
in
increased
crime
rates.
I'm
sure
you
have
heard
or
will
hear
that
Uptown
is
a
fragile,
precious
gem
that
needs
to
be
protected,
and
while
that
is
true,
the
notion
that
this
policy
will
increase
crime
rates
is
a
red
herring
and
a
distraction.
P
The
benefits
of
this
policy
passing
will
make
our
community
more
marketable
and
will
put
us
on
the
map
with
other
Georgian
communities
who
have
learned
the
simple
truth:
that
entertainment
districts
work,
they're
good
for
business
owners,
they're
good
for
growth,
and
they
make
our
city
more
desirable.
Please
allow
our
Uptown
Community
to
give
this
opportunity
a
chance
and
together
I
believe
with
proper
planning.
This
could
be
a
big
win.
Thank.
T
You
thank
you
councilor
Garrett
I,
want
to
add
my
own
comments.
I've
heard
concerns
about
this
and
I
actually
think
the
opposite
of
what
many
of
the
concerns
are.
I
think
this
actually
encourages
moderation,
because,
when
you
think
about
when
you're
out
at
dinner,
you're
going
to
the
comedy
night
at
the
loft
or
you've
got
tickets
to
the
Springer,
what
happens
at
the
end
when
it's
you're
pressed
for
time?
T
You
finish
your
drink
quickly
or
your
friends
are
like
hey:
let's
go
if
people
are
able
to
walk
around
downtown
gives
them
a
chance
to
sober
up.
It
gives
them
a
chance
to
not
drink
too
quickly
which
people
tend
to
do
if
they're
rushed
I.
Think
in
many
ways
I
mean
this
is
just
something
that
establishes
regulations
on
something
that's
already
happening.
T
We
all
know
it
does.
When
there's
concerts
and
series
like
that,
but
I
think
this
is
something
that
does
actually
promote
moderation,
I
think
it
promotes
people
walking
around
downtown
businesses
and
walking
and
visiting
Parks
things
like
that,
and.
B
AC
Hi,
my
name
is
Austin
Alton
I
represent
to
Cooper
Woodruff
I'm
in
high
Side
Market.
We
are
in
support
of
the
special
assignment
of
high
Side
Market
entertainment
districts
separate
and
apart
from
Uptown,
Chris
has
a
vision
of
creating
different
communities
and
developments
similar
to
those
in
Atlanta
such
as
Atlantic
Station
or
Ponce,
City,
Market
or
Avalon
outside
of
Atlanta,
something
that
hasn't
existed
in
Columbus
before
something
that
leaves
a
mark
on
this
community.
You
guys
have
heard
the
Spiel
before
through
the
Tad
and
allowing
the
student
Entertainment
District
accomplishes
all
of
those
goals.
AC
C
I
I
We
have
the
the
restaurants,
the
law
of
the
barbellas
and
salt
cellar
in
Boston
I
have
another
one
under
construction
and
we're
real
interested
in
really
boring
down
into
this,
and
let's
see
the
flip
side
of
it,
you
know
the
possibilities
and
the
negatives
to
it.
Also,
you
know
back
in
92
we
actually
established
Entertainment
District
and
we
were
able
to
have
alcohol
license
side
by
side,
and
we
were
you
know,
changing
the
laws
a
little
bit
and
even
having
mixed
drinks.
I
Laws
I
had
to
come
and
have
a
ordinance
to
change
just
to
have
a
mixed
drinks
downtown,
because
everything
had
been
shut
down
because
it
went
real
dark
and
in
92
we
bought
our
first
property
in
85
and
got
some
momentum
in
92.
He
opened
the
Loft
as
it
is
now
it
open
for
30
years,
except
for
covid,
and
so
during
this
time
and
the
laws
changed,
we
had
a
real,
robust
nightlife.
It
took
off,
it
started
happening
and
we
grew
to
a
point
in
0607
where
it
got
a
little
bit
out
of
hand.
I
First,
one
thing
happened
at
another
and
then
it
was
like
a
mili
one.
Nine.
There
was
a
lot
of
videos
going
around
a
lot
of
negative
publicity
and
it
came
to
the
point
where
we
had
to
shut
it
down
and
re-start
this
engine
again
and
we
met
with
CSU
police
captain
Ross
our
Police
Department,
Uptown
and
Fort
Benning,
and
to
try
to
get
support
on
how
we
could
maintain
this
and
keep
it
safe
because
it
was
definitely
unsafe,
and
so
we
we
did.
I
We
come
up
with
a
plan
and-
and
we
put
Jackie
long-
was
our
on
our
Walking
Tall
downtown
and
he
helped
build
all
this
in.
We
had
a
plan
of
blocking
streets,
we
had
layers
and
we
also
had
MPS
involved,
and
we
also
had
undercover
and
people
didn't
realize
this.
We
had
an
undercover
station
outside.
We
were
able
to
reel
this
back
in
and
get
it
where
it
was
manageable.
We
even
had
meetings,
we
talked
about
limiting
nightclub,
license
a
bar
license
and
just
restaurant
license.
I
So
it
was
very
strategic
plan
on
how
we
could
regain
our
area
back
to
grow
it
back
and
so
that
that
shift
happened
with
everybody
pulling
together
and
even
the
even
the
bar
owners,
and
we
all
we
all
had
to
pull
together
even
the
doorman.
We
would
communicate
with
each
other.
There's
a
problem.
We'd
all
identify
our
problem
and
I'll.
Let
the
problem
get
into
the
rest
of
the
places.
I
So
we
were
actually
very
effective
in
turning
this
around
and
the
reason
why
I
bring
that
up
is
because
now
we
have
we're
The
Shining
Star
of
the
region,
I
mean
we
are
a
family
environment
and
and
I'm
so
proud
of
it.
We
are
the
destination
restaurant
area
that
we
had
hoped
we
would
be
with
growing
every
day
and
I
think
we're
the
center
of
our
Cultural
Arts
Center,
it's
where
we
want
to
come
and
we
have
people
from
out
of
town
the
riverfront.
I
What's
going,
you
know
what
is
the
game
plan
what's
going
to
be
different
because
I
don't
want
to
do
one
thing
to
back
up
into
the
old
days.
I
don't
want
to
do
one
thing
to
tarnish
our
families
that
we
have
coming
downtown
and
the
negative
aura
that
we've
had
about
our
area.
We've
spent
so
much
time
and
energy
and
marketing
to
overcome
that.
So
I
just
really
appreciate
y'all,
really
looking
at
this
in
a
deep
way
to
understand
the
impact
on
the
other
side
of
it
too.
I
I'm
not
a
proponent
for
this
ordinance,
how
it's
written
and
how
it's
laid
out.
I
read
through
it,
I
read
through
it,
I'll
look
at
two
or
three
different
Maps.
It's
a
constant
little
changing
I,
don't
believe
our
citizens
are.
Are
our
our
property
owners,
the
people
that
pay
the
bid
tax
that
we
tax
ourself
to
have
a
clean
or
a
safer
I'm,
not
sure
the
bid
tax,
the
people
that
pay
the
tax
are
actually
understand
that
this
ordinance
on
the
books?
I
I
think
it
would
be
real,
prudent
of
us
to
make
sure
that
those
people
have
that
contact
and
that
letter
to
know
that
their
property
values
can
be
affected
by
this.
There
was
a
very
bad
incident
that
happened
in
Mobile
Alabama
that
absolutely
shut
the
downtown
down
completely
went
tank
and,
and
it
I
don't
know
if
it's
even
recovered
to
today.
I
So
those
property
values
went
bottomed
out
and
everybody
ran
for
the
for
the
hills
and
when
I
opened
back
in
when
I
first
bought
my
property
back
in
downtown
I
couldn't
even
get
a
financing
for
my
building,
I
had
to
pay
cash
for
our
building.
There
was
no
bank
that
would
Finance
me
to
open.
Now
we
are
the
most
vibrant,
Tax
Center
of
all
of
Columbus,
and
we
pull
more
building
permits
than
all
of
Columbus.
We
have
more
incentive
in
all
of
Columbus.
C
AD
Hi
I'm
Molly,
Smith
I,
live
at
720,
Broadway
I
had
no
intention
of
speaking
tonight,
but
a
couple
of
things
that
have
been
said,
I
just
couldn't
not
respond
express
my
thoughts
on
at
least
I
went
to
the
two
o'clock
meeting
last
week.
I've
been
here
tonight
and
I
have
watched
the
video
of
the
last
meeting
a
council
and
the
problem
I
have
at
this
point.
Is
it's
not
clear
what
you've
been
voting
on?
I
think
that
this
is
Half
Baked.
AD
Every
every
meeting
I've
been
to
the
scope
has
changed.
It's
it's
done
it
again
tonight
and
it's
not
really
to
me
it's
it.
You
can't
assume
that
one
size
fits
all
works
in
an
Entertainment.
District
I
mean
High.
Side
Market
is
very
different
than
Uptown
I,
don't
know
anything
about
Midland
Commons,
but
and
and
then
we're
not.
You
know
the
Pedal
Pub,
this
tour
service
vehicle
operator
having
that
as
a
as
a
licensed
entity
operator
is
one
thing
and
an
Entertainment.
AD
District
is
another
thing
and
then,
once
you
establish
an
Entertainment
District
to
have
a
process
to
determine
and
a
you
know
a
process
for
determining
and
voting
on,
which
ones
are
appropriate.
Instead
of
lumping
it
all
together,
it
seems
inappropriate
and
irresponsible.
To
me,
I
mean
every
the
questions.
I
have
I
heard
asked
at
the
two
o'clock
meeting
last
week.
Many
times
the
answer
is
well,
we
don't
know
we
don't
know,
you
know
the
the
the
the
district
itself
was
evolving.
We
have
no
idea
about
the
cups
situation.
AD
So,
if
that's,
if
that's
not
clear,
how
do
you
know
how
it
will
be
enforced
or
what
issues
would
will
it
create
in
order
to
ensure
enforcement
properly,
so
I
mean
to
me
before
you
can
decide
what
Uptown
districting
looks
like
you
need
to
understand
what
Uptown
as
an
entity
is
going
to
determine?
Is
the
process
for
obtaining
and
what
the
cups
will
look
like
so
I
I
just
feel
like
I
think
Buddy
was
right.
AD
You
need
to
engage
stakeholders
for
each
different
part
separately
and
and
and
slow
this
down
a
little
bit
and
just
I.
Don't
know
why
everything's
being
lumped
together
in
one
big
vote
instead
of
separately.
AD
E
O
Me
your
name
and
address
Mr
White.
My
name
is
Frank
Lumpkin
I'm,
the
owner
of
various
properties
in
downtown
Columbus
and
I-
have
looked
at
this
at
this
idea
and
the
one
thing
that
came
kind
of
clear
to
me,
I
I,
think
the
Pedal
Pub
is
a
great
great
idea,
but
y'all
are
trying
to
do
too
much
I
mean,
as
my
daddy
said,
too
much
sugar
for
a
nickel.
You
need
to
get
him
in
business
and
then
come
back
and
mess
with
this.
This
is
this
is
too
much.
O
The
other
thing
is
when
you
were
talking
about
the
the
cups
you
know
at
the
meetings
last
week.
16
ounces
is
a
pint.
If,
if
I
did
my
math
right,
that's
awful
large
amount
of
alcohol
because
what
they
were
talking
about.
Oh
you
can
take
your
cup
and
drink
it
on
the
way
to
to
the
Springer.
Well,
if
you
drink,
16
ounces,
you're,
going
to
sleep
through
the
the.
B
A
O
Of
the
spring,
or
you
know,
play
that
you
went
to
see,
I
can
promise
you,
but
but
anyway,
I
mean
I'm
kind
of
like
what
the
young
lady
said
about.
You
know
before
me,
I
just
think
you
got
a
little
more
thinking
to
do
before
you,
you
just
rubber
stamp
this
thing.
So
that's
that's
my
oh
thank
you.
AE
My
name
is
Chad
scrimshire
I
live
at
a
1424
20th
Street
in
Columbus,
Georgia
I'm.
Also,
a
business
owner
in
uptown
Columbus
I
am
strongly
in
favor
of
the
Entertainment
District.
AE
We've
tabled
this
for
a
little
over
four
years
now
and
we've
talked
to
people
in
other
communities,
I've
gone
and
worked
in
Savannah
and
dealt
firsthand
with
guests,
getting
to
go
drinks
and,
as
Walker
said,
councilman
Garrett.
Sorry,
it
did
seem
to
limit
Reckless
drinking.
You
know,
I
did
see
firsthand
people
just
pour
the
drink
they
had
in
their
cup
and
walk
out
instead
of
slamming
that
one
and
then
trying
to
get
out
and
catch
the
Uber.
AE
You
know
this
operates
without
a
hitch
in
Opelika
in
their
downtown
area.
They
don't
see
any
issues
it's
currently
going
on
in
Phoenix
City.
Without
any
issues
you
know
in
Mobile
it
may
not
have
been
a
success,
but
it's
a
singular
instance
and
it's
the
only
one
we
can
find
on
record
where
this
didn't
work.
AE
You
know
we
have
way
more
evidence
to
support
that.
This
would
be
a
positive
change
for
Uptown
Columbus
than
we
do
that
it
would
be
the
opposite.
AE
So
I
just
think
that
we
should
do
this
and
I
think
the
Positive
Growth
Columbus
could
see
as
a
result
can't
go
unnoticed
and
I
appreciate
y'all's
time.
Thank
y'all.
Thank.
C
You
councilor
Thomas.
U
U
But
let's
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
what's
there
and
see
if
it
has
indeed
met
what
I'm
being
told
by
many
many
many
many
people
that
they
think
this
would
be
a
very
good
idea
for
downtown,
so
just
to
Let's,
revisit
it
and
in
12
months
and
see
and
be
sure
that
we
have
the
police
department
involved
in
that
review
and
and
whatever
not
necessarily
to
end
it,
but
to
let's
review
it
and
see
if
there
it
needs
to
be
tweaked.
U
C
A
E
Q
I
wanted
to
see
if
anybody
else
wanted
to
speak
and
if
no
one
else
wanted
to
run
it
for
Mr
Ed
from
Uptown
Columbus
to
come
forward.
But.
Q
AF
Yes,
Chris
Whiteman,
1712,
Park
Drive
good
afternoon,
Mr
Mayor
city
manager.
AF
So
what
we've
got
here
is
we're
not
like
downtown
we're
we're
self-contained,
we're
private
owned
property
and
I,
don't
want
to
be
confused
with
with
downtown
and
and
what
y'all
are
trying
to
get
done.
Downtown
so
Pam
has
asked
asked
us.
We
can't
do
anything
with
this
property.
Yet
would
you
be
willing
to
come
down
here
and
at
least
tell
us
what
it
is
that
y'all
want
to
do?
C
AF
So
what
we've
got
is
two
L-shaped
buildings
and
and
then
we're
going
to
build
these
two
buildings
and
then
these
back
buildings.
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
kind
of
just
take
that
space.
AF
And
make
it
a
an
Entertainment
District
we
just
don't.
We
feel
like
that.
You
know
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
coming
and
eating
it
at
this
place
want
to
be
able
to
travel
around
and.
A
AF
Go
eat
at
other
places,
so
kind
of
all
I
got
to
say:
I'm,
sorry
yeah,
so
this
is
going
to
be
Midland,
Commons,
Boulevard
and
in
front
of
in
front
of
the
street.
AF
We've
got
more
out
Parcels
so
right
over
here,
you've
got
the
gas
station
zelmos
and
Arby's
right
across
the
street
from
that
you're
going
to
have
a
new
Synovus
Bank
next
door
to
that
you're
going
to
have
an
urgent
care
clinic,
and
then
this
stuff
here
in
the
back
we've
got
a
stage.
So
what
we
want
is
as
people
to
be
able
to
sit
out
there
and
drink
a
cocktail
and
listen
to
music.
K
AF
So
it's
a
little
bit
more
difficult
here,
but
right
over
here
we
have
Walmart,
okay,
okay,
Beaver
Run
would
be
sitting
caddy
corner
to
us
on
the
property,
foreign
and
so
you've
got
J.R
Allen
Parkway
right
here
and
you've
got
Frontage
Lots
Flat
Rock
Park
would
be
right
behind
us.
Yep.
D
AF
No,
no
other
than
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
living
upstairs
and
they
know
they're
signing
away
their
right
to
privacy
from
the
standpoint
of
pots,
breaking
and
and
everything
else,
but
yeah.
No,
so
the
people
living
upstairs
fully
fully
know
what's
going
on
downstairs
and
that
they'll
be
there'll,
be
people
out
there
drinking.
Q
Go
okay
mayor
pretend
asked
the
question
because
I
wanted
Mr
Whiteman
to
know
it's
not
on
for
tonight,
but
I
appreciate
you
bringing
the
information,
and
this
is
based
on
what
we
do
with
this
ordinance
right
now
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
Pam,
isn't
there
some
other
things
that
need
to
be
done
with
this
one
before
you
bring
it
Forward,
okay,
but
thank
you
for
coming
today
and
giving.
A
Q
Has
to
come
at
another
date
because
it
needs
to
have
some
other
guidelines
and
rules
and
conditions
there
in
it.
But
thank
you
thank.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I
I
was
just
gonna
say
to
Chris
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
travel
to
Jackson,
Mississippi
and
I
stayed
at
an
embassy
suite
in
Richland
and
I've
been
talking
to
them
about
this
entertainment
thing
that
they
have
just
like
what
you
described.
Yes
and
I've,
been
talking
to
you
for
two
years
about
that
right.
Well,.
H
Ago,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
I've
been
to
a
place
like
what
you
described
and
and
loved
it
and
and
I've
been
talking
to
staff
about
that
place.
We
got
to
do
that
and
I'm
starting
to
send
them
to
Jackson
Mississippi
to
see
it,
but
but
it's
it's
you
just
described
for
me
what
I've
been
talking
to
them
about
for
more
than
two
years.
AF
Yeah
so
Mr
city
manager,
if
you
would
like
to
come
out
and
take
a
tour
of
of
the
location,
please
give
me
a
call
and
I'll
be
I'll
personally
shock
you
around
the
space.
Q
Yes,
have
you
have
you
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
your
board
now
or
your
head
of
your
organization
of
Uptown
Columbus
to
decide
on
the
Cubs
or
the
stickers
and
how
they
will
be
distributed
and
the
cost?
Because
in
the
public
hearing
that
we
had
I
asked
you
to
please
go
back
and
have
this
ready
by
the
time
we
vote
on
it,
so
that
constituents
will
feel
comfortable
to
know
exactly
what's
going
to
happen.
Q
Q
Also
a
partner
in
uptown
and
I
wanted
to
see
where
you
are,
and
what
do
you
need
to
bring
this
forward
so
that
we
can
at
ease
some
of
these
concerns,
because
the
whole
idea
when
Uptown
was
established
was
to
have
the
Purple
People,
the
extra
police,
CSU
police
and
the
military
to
ensure
the
safety
in
a
family
environment?
Those
things
should
have
not
changed.
That
should
be
still
the
same
priority,
because
the
merchants
are
paying
for
that
and
I've
heard
several.
Quite
you
know
problems
and
cons
about
it.
Q
So
this
is
my
reason
for
asking
to
come
forward
to
hear
uptown's
plan,
because
these
things
should
be
in
place
now
it
shouldn't
be
no
different
and
so
I
wanted
you
to
to
speak
on
on
that.
Please.
AH
Certainly,
you
mentioned
several
different
things,
so
let
me
start
with
the
basics
in
terms
of
the
public
safety
and
the
extra
cleanliness
that
is
done
through
the
business
improvement
district.
It
is
a
special
assessment
District
on
property
owners
within
the
Uptown
District,
that
money
is
controlled
by
our
business,
Improvement,
District,
board
of
directors,
and
that
group
directs
our
what
we
call
our
purple
people,
which
is
our
clean
team,
and
we
also
have
a
team
of
ambassadors.
AH
So
they
do
extra
cleaning
in
the
day
seven
days
a
week,
and
then
we
also
have
extra
security,
that's
provided
by
them.
They
are
not
licensed
police
officers,
they
do
not
carry
weapons,
but
they
do
serve
as
another
set
of
eyes
and
ears
for
police
officers
that
Team
Works
seven
out
seven
days
a
week,
basically
from
about
six
in
the
morning
till
roughly
about
11
o'clock
at
night,
so
they're
providing
all
those
Services
through
that.
AH
So
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
framework
of
some
of
the
services
that
that
are
layered
on
to
the
security
issues
and
to
the
cleanliness
issues
so
in
terms
of
the
Uptown
board.
So
there
is
a
provision
in
the
draft
ordinance
that
has
Uptown
selecting
what
those
cups
would
be.
We
have
not
had
an
opportunity
as
a
board
to
meet
on
that.
AH
Our
board
is
about
22
people,
so
we
do
have
regularly
scheduled
meetings
and
we
do
have
our
executive
committee
meeting
this
week,
but
that's
going
to
be
Thursday
and
talking
privately
to
our
chair.
There
was
a
sense.
We
should
involve
the
entire
board
in
that
discussion
and
so
whether
we'll
do
a
special
call
meeting
or
wait
until
our
regular
meeting
with
the
full
board,
which,
because
the
holidays
won't
be
until
the
first
week
of
December.
AH
AH
I
I
do
not
think
that's
gonna
I'll
have
that
answer
for
you
on
Thursday
or
Friday,
no
ma'am,
I
I,
think
I.
Well,
the
preference
of
our
board
chair
at
the
moment
is
that
we
should
involve
the
entire
board.
We
I
mentioned
22
people
that
are
part
of
that
decision-making
body
and
there
they
meet
basically
every
other
month,
but
because
of
the
holiday
for
Thanksgiving.
They
pushed
that
meeting
into
December.
Q
I
thought
earlier:
you
have
mentioned
that
that
meeting
was
going
to
include
your
executive
board
and
the
board
no.
Q
Well,
what
are
the
chances
of
having
a
special
call
meeting,
because
this
is
important?
People
are
paying
Uptown
people
go
to
Uptown,
people
expect
Uptown
to
represent
them,
and
if
this
is
something
that
the
merchants
are
asking
for,
it
should
be
a
responsibility
of
Uptown
to
call
a
special
meaning
because
they're
patrons
the
people
that
pay
for
Uptown
to
exist
are
asking
for
this.
Q
So
I
would
say
it
would
be
very
irresponsible
if
you
didn't
call
a
special
call
meeting
and
have
the
board
presented
or
have
the
executive
board
to
make
a
decision
by
the
time
we
go
back
to
the
second
reading,
because
it's
not
fair
if
it
comes
where
we
need
to
vote,
but
we
can't
vote
because
we're
waiting
on
Uptown,
which
Uptown
represents
the
merchants.
It's
not
it's
not
fair
to
the
merchants,
as
you
heard
tonight,
there's
many
many
merchants
and
patrons
that
want
this.
Q
So
I
would
highly
suggest,
or
probably
your
Merchants
need
to
start
ringing.
All
your
board
members
phone
numbers
like
they
would
do
counsel
when
there's
an
issue
in
Council
and
they
want
our
attention,
guess
what
the
public
do.
They
call
all
our
phones
and
tell
us
the
importance.
Maybe
you
know
your
Merchants
need
to
do
the
same
thing
and
I.
Think
the
young
lady
I'm
gonna,
call
her
a
young
lady
from
Virgil
I
think
she
said
she
had
like
200
and
some
signature.
AH
Q
And
and
the
merchants
and
the
patrons
have
the
right
to
call
them
and
say
voice
their
opinion
just
the
same
way,
they
have
the
right
to
call
us
when
there's
a
situation
when
something
happens
in
this
city
regardless,
if
it's
the
city,
the
school
board,
Uptown,
no
matter
where
it
is,
we
get
all
the
phone
calls
we
get
it
when
you
accept
a
position
in
the
board,
you
accept
that
responsibility
to
answer
to
those
that
call
you-
and
this
is
very
important
to
the
audience
behind
you.
Q
If
you
turn
around
and
you
look
these-
are
your
constituents
like
they
are
our
constituents?
I
know
you
can't
make
it
happen
just
like
them,
city
manager
can.
But
you
can
pick
up
the
phone
and
say
we
got
a
problem.
We
need
to
have
a
special
call
meeting
or
we
need
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
resolve
this?
We
have
a
zoom
call.
You
know
you
try
to
that's
like
the
city
manager.
Q
Does
he
tries
to
find
a
way
to
get
that
information
to
all
of
us
to
have
that
discussion
so
that
we
can
resolve
the
issues
and
that's
what
I'm
asking
of
you
I'm,
not
telling
you
what
to
do
I'm
just
asking
you
to
please
do
just
like
my
city
manager
would
do
pick
up
that
phone
start,
calling
them
and
I
would
tell
the
people
in
the
audience
start
calling
the
board.
You
know
your
phone
numbers
are
not
private
when
you're
on
the
board,
your
emails
are
not
private.
Q
So
let's
get
this
ball
going
because
the
concern
is,
how
are
these
cups
going
to
be
distributed?
What's
the
cost
who's
responsible,
the
security,
but
you
already
mentioned
all
the
security
that
Uptown
has
Chief
also
already
mentioned
how
he
can
can
serve
better
and
do
a
good
job,
because
it's
in
a
contained
area,
so
the
only
people
holding
this
up
is
uptown
uptown's,
the
only
one
that's
holding
it
up
now
between
now
and
a
vote,
so
Uptown
needs
to
figure
out
how
do
they
meet?
Q
AH
Yes,
and
just
just
so
you're
aware,
the
board
chairman
wasn't
backed
here
for
the
council
meeting
that
this
was
initially
brought
up
a
couple
weeks
ago,
so
the
board
chair
was
in
the
audience
and
I
attended.
Both
public
sessions
that
were
held
I
also
provided
copies
of
the
draft
ordinance
to
all
the
stakeholders
that
are
on
our
mailing
list.
Q
V
Yes,
I
was
listening
to
counselor
Thomas
when
she
referred
to
bringing
it
back.
I
think
he
said
in
12
months.
Did
you
say
12
months?
My
question
is
in
reference
to
high
side
and
not
saying
it
I
love
Chris,
but
not
saying
he's
gonna
sell.
But
what
happens
you
know
if
a
person
sells
does
it
still
remain
a
Entertainment
District?
Does
it
transfer
with
ownership
like
what's
the
process
when
we
make
that
high
side
District
so
I.
C
V
In
there
I
mean
I
hate
to
be
Devil's
Advocate
on
this,
but
I'm.
Just
thinking
about
that
like
in
something
that
has
occurred
on
Broadway,
where
it's
not
so
great.
AI
C
Q
You
said
we
can
put
up.
We
can
put
a
little
thing
there.
That
console
has
the
authority
to
victim.
You
know
to.
Q
E
AG
My
name
is
Robert
battle:
1315
Elmwood,
Drive,
Columbus,
Georgia
I.
Just
briefly
wanted
to
speak
on
the
issue
concerning
Uptown
Inc.
AG
We
as
a
group
of
businesses
have
met
a
number
of
times
and
the
cups
and
the
stickers
have
been
brought
up
over
the
years
since
2018,
and
there
are
some
concerns
from
the
business
side
having
that
stipulation
on
there,
not
that
we're
against
it.
I've
actually
written
up
this
whole
like
it's
called
the
backup
plan,
and
this
is
basic
and
I'll
email
it
to
everybody.
AG
This
is
worst
case
scenario.
This
is
nobody's
satisfied,
and
this
is
what
we
have
to
do
to
get
this
passed,
but
I
just
want
to
make
the
comment
that
everything
is
very
expensive
right
now
and
it's
only
going
up
operating
as
a
business
has
only
gotten
harder,
a
place
like
Frank's,
who
we're
very
close
to
Ross
he's
small
he's,
just
starting
he's,
starting
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic.
For
somebody
like
that
to
have
to
already
make
an
investment
into
plastic
cups,
it
gets
expensive.
AG
There's
a
lot
of
logistics
involved
there.
If
we
make
Uptown
Inc
responsible
for
holding
these
cups
watering,
these
cups
or
stickers
or
whatever
that
might
be,
they
have
to
find
a
place
to
store
them.
We
have
to
hold
them.
We
have
to
buy
them
if
they're
branded
or
specially
printed
there's
an
additional
cost
and
all
of
those
things
are
a
cost
or
a
tax
to
participate
and
we're
trying
to
avoid
that,
and
that's
the
only
point
I'm
trying
to
make
here
when
it
comes
to
Uptown
and
their
involvement
or
responsibility.
AG
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
questions
surrounding
enforcement
and
whatnot,
but
when
we
look
at
other
cities
and
what
they're
doing
the
ordinance
that
we
have
on
the
books
is
pretty
sound,
it
reflects
a
lot
of
what
other
cities
are
doing.
I
feel
like
it
will
work
if
we're
going
to
do
something
like
with
Miss
councilor
Thomas
is
suggesting
12
months.
AG
I
think
we
can
take
a
time
to
review
and
see
how
it
operates
without
that
stipulation,
because
if
say
this
passes
at
the
next
reading
or
whatever,
we
then
have
to
figure
out
that
whole
situation,
the
ordering
the
timeline
who
knows
how
long
those
cups
take
to
get
in
what
that
looks
like
I
feel
like
that's
just
this
whole
other
complicated
situation,
we're
adding
to
something
that
really
isn't
that
complicated.
AG
Should
it
be
a
problem,
that's
something
we
could
review
in
the
12-month
period
when
that
comes
up
I
feel
like
then,
maybe
we
get
to
the
backup
plan
again.
I'll
share
that
with
everybody,
I'm
I
think
we're
all
more
than
happy
with
doing
this.
If
we
have
to
the
idea
is
to
avoid
this
so
that
we're
not
burdened
with
an
additional
cost.
The
goal
here
is
to
increase
revenue
for
all
the
businesses
and
increase
traffic
in
the
Uptown
area.
Thank.
C
You
thank
you.
Mr
battle,
councilor
crab.
R
R
These
businesses
may
want
to
do
things
a
little
bit
differently,
each
one
of
them
and
so
give
them
that
freedom
to
do
that,
and
then
we
can
always
come
back
in
the
in
that
12-month
period
and
say
then
we
can
start
slapping
hands,
you
know,
but
let's
try
and
give
them
the
freedom
to
work
it
out
amongst
themselves.
They
seem
to.
They
seem
to
be
very
successful
at
doing
that.
U
Councilor
Crabb
that
in
the
ordinance
itself
it
says
you
can
have
up
to
a
16
ounce
cup
and
it
has
to
be
shatterproof
and
other
than
that
the
businesses
ought
to
be
able
to
figure
out
if,
if
I
don't
want,
but
a
10
ounce
cup,
you
know
I
can
have
a
10
ounce
cup,
but
that's
not
something
that
I
think
uptown
regulates
that
something
that
is
regulated
by
the
ordinance
itself.
In
my
estimation,
thank.
E
C
C
E
U
Why
would
we
remove
the
residency
requirement
on
the
pension
board
and
not
I
mean
they
are
dealing
with
the
Muskogee
County?
You
know,
I,
don't
understand
the
impetus
for
this.
Perhaps
if
councilor
Woodson
could
well.
C
B
C
Decisions
with
what
we
do
with
our
investments
on
our
Pension
funds
and
I
know,
we've
had
a
couple
of
folks
attorneys
and
tax
attorneys
that
have
been
extremely
valuable
and
I.
Think
one
of
one
or
two
of
them
has
recently
moved
into
Harris
County,
so
I
think
the
idea
was
just
to
have
that
that
flexibility.
U
Well,
I
I
will
tell
you
that
I
am
strongly
opposed
to
any
board
in
the
in
our
government
that
appointed
board
that
is
not
made
up
of
residents
of
Muskogee
County
I
know
that
the
pension
board
has
Consultants
that
come
and
deal
with
the
pension
board
and
give
them
advice.
Not
all
of
those
folks
live
in
Muskogee
County,
but
a
member
of
a
board
that
is
appointed
by
this
Council
I
believe
must
live
in
Muskogee.
County
and
I
would
be
very
much
opposed
to
this
ordinance.
Q
The
sortness
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
the
board
and
and
similar
to
what
the
mayor
was
saying.
Some
of
our
employees
don't
live
in
Muskogee
County,
but
there
are
employees
and
they
are
getting
their
pension
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
participate,
but
now
because
they
chose
to
move
into,
let's
say:
Phoenix
city
they're
not
allowed
to
participate
in
the
pension
board.
So
that
was
the
reason
was
given
to
me
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
Clerk
of
council,
don't
we
have
another
employee
board
that
has
no
residential
restriction.
S
Moment
so
yes,
Council
was
in
the
retirees
health
benefits
committee
does
allow
or
remove
the
residency
requirement,
and
so
we
do
have
some
employee-based
boards
that
do
not
require
that
the
person
serving
reside
in
Muskogee
County.
We
also
do
that
for
the
veterinarians
on
the
animal
control,
Advisory
Board.
Q
D
Yeah
I
appreciate
the
subject
matter
being
brought
up.
I
would
feel
better
instead
of
lifting
the
resident
requirement
on
the
whole
thing,
maybe
limit
it
to
two,
not
one
or
two
positions,
something
like
that
and
then
you
can.
It
wouldn't
be
overwhelmingly
out
of
out
of
County
type
out
of
City
type
membership.
You
would
have
flexibility
to
have
one
or
two
on
there.
Q
We
can
amend
that
to
say
to
non-resident
members.
Yes,.
C
A
motion
to
amend
it
so
that
the
number
of
out
of
County
residents
on
boards
are
limited
to
two.
Is
there
a
second
all.
C
E
All
right
I
will
bring
it
back.
Do
you
want
to
continue
the
first
reading
or
just
bring
it
back
on?
Second,
what's
your
pleasure
on
that.
Q
R
The
situation
of
this
right
now
or
do
we
have
members
falling
off
of
this
board
because
they're
not
they're,
they
no
longer
live
in
Muskogee
County.
S
R
So,
what's
the
situation
of
this
board
right
now,
do
we
have?
Is
it
fully
staffed
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
or
or
is?
Do
we
have
vacancies
because
there
are
people
that
have
moved
out
of
Muskogee
County.
S
R
S
A
R
E
All
right
we'll
bring
that
back
subject
to
further
Amendment,
though
the
last
ordinance
we've
got
would
be
to
keep
Columbus
beautiful
commission
amendment
to
revise
membership
positions
and
redefine
appointment
process
for
the
executive
director.
They
have
I
think
three-year
terms.
A
E
E
10
is
the
the
pay
plan
discussion?
That's
the
resolution.
We
would
like
to
get
Ms
Hollowell
Director
of
Human
Resources
back
out
front,
and
this
is
a
resolution.
Council
requested
of
course,
come
back
before
any
pay
plan
went
into
effect.
This
would
be
November,
12
2022
pay
period,
but
we'll
let
Miss
Hollowell
comment
and
anybody
can
ask
questions.
M
M
B
M
So
what
I
provided
here
is
just
the
timeline
here
on
implementing
of
the
new
pay
plan
and
then
so,
as
of
September,
the
13th
council
did
adopt
the
new
pay
plan
and
then
so
immediately
upon
adoption
of
the
new
pay
plan
from
September
the
14th
up
until
October
the
20th,
the
our
consultant
Evergreen
Solutions
and
Human
Resources
have
reviewed
the
appeals
that
I've
talked
to
you
all
about
some
400
or
so
appeals
that
we've
talked
about
the
file
review.
The
personnel
file
that's
been
reviewed
and
updated
as
needed.
M
We've
also
had
some
meetings
with
department
heads
to
discuss
some
of
the
appeals
that
the
consultant
was
considering
recommending.
M
So
from
last
week,
the
week
of
October,
the
17th,
our
I.T
department
has
begun
preliminary
testing.
The
pay
plan
in
our
HRM
payroll
system
they've
continued
that
preliminary
testing
this
week
of
the
new
pay
plan
in
our
HRM
payroll
system
and
today
October
the
25th.
We
do
have
a
resolution
on
the
agenda
that
the
City
attorney
just
mentioned
to
this
is
the
final
recommendation,
the
final
resolution
to
implement
the
pay
plan,
and
so
with
council's
approval.
M
Should
you
approve
the
resolution
today
the
pay
plan,
the
new
pay
plan
will
be
implemented
on
November,
the
12th.
M
So
what
that
means?
That
is
a
window
for
us
in
terms
of
the
start
of
a
new
pay
period,
the
start
of
our
new
flsa
cycle
and
I'm
gonna
I've
got
the
finance
director
here
and
the
I.T
director
and
I'm
going
to
ask
them
to
speak
on
this
in
this
next
slide.
M
But
if
Council
agrees
to
implement
the
new
pay
plan
with
our
effective
date
of
November,
the
12th,
then
on
November
the
25th,
the
new
pay
plan,
adjustments
will
be
reflected
in
the
employee's,
paychecks
that
they
will
receive
they'll,
be
paid
on
November
the
25th
and
they
will
receive
their
first
adjustment
in
their
paychecks
on
November.
The
25th
and
I
highlighted
here
that
that
is
a
that's
Thanksgiving
holiday.
That's
a
that
week,
Thursday
and
Friday.
M
M
So
in
terms
of
these,
the
recommendations
here
I
will
talk
about
the
appeals
as
I
mentioned,
but
I
wanted
to
wanted
the
finance
director
and
I.T
just
to
talk
about
this,
this
option
of
implementing
the
paid
plan
on
November
the
12th,
because
there
there
is
a
window
for
us
and
there
aren't
very
many
windows
like
this-
that
we
are
able
to
seize
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
seize
this
opportunity.
M
Notwithstanding,
that
should
Council
decide
that
you
don't
want
to
go
with
what
we're
recommending
is
option
one.
There
is
an
alternate
option
that
I
want
to
share
as
well,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
Angelica
just
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
this
out
this
November
12th
is
the
most
Optimum
time
to
implement
the
pay
plan.
F
Hello
again,
so,
as
the
HR
Director
mentioned,
we
really
only
have
a
couple
of
Windows
to
to
implement
the
pay
plan
with
minimal
issues
in
terms
of
the
system
that
we
have
our
HRM
payroll
system.
F
The
optimum
start
date
is
November
12th,
and
that
is
because
we
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
the
HRM
system.
We
just
implemented
a
major
system
upgrade
last
week.
We
have
another
major
system
upgrade
that
we'll
have
to
do
and
it
touches
all
systems.
Hrm,
our
HR
System,
our
finance
system,
our
budget
system,
because
they're
all
on
the
same
platform
when
we
have
a
major
system
upgrade
all
of
these
systems
are
impacted.
We
have
another
major
system
upgrade
planned
in
December.
F
We
have
to
do
this
upgrade
and
do
it
on
time,
because
it
contains
the
tax
releases
for
this
year
that
we'll
need
to
have
in
place
when
we
process
W-2s
and
1099s.
You
know
we
do
have
a
deadline
that
we're
federally
required
to
meet
in
terms
of
getting
out
those
W-2s
and
1099s.
We
have
until
the
end
of
January,
so
we
have
a
very
limited
staff
in
terms
of
payroll,
Staffing
and
HR
and
I.T
staff.
F
It's
really
the
same,
people
that
are
implementing
you
know
all
these
various
components
of
the
project
and
managing
this
this
system,
and
so
again
you
know
from
a
staffing
standpoint.
It
is
Optimum
for
us
to
implement
November
12th
again,
just
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
December.
In
addition
to
that
major
system
upgrade
that
we'll
have
to
do
at
some
point.
F
In
December
we
are
processing
payroll,
four
out
of
the
five
Fridays,
so
employees
will
receive
a
paycheck
of
some
sort,
pay
of
some
sort,
four
out
of
the
five
Fridays
in
December,
so
that
really
when
we,
when
we
have
to
run
payroll,
that
really
takes
away
our
ability
to
really
get
in
the
system
perform
system
maintenance
and
with
just
that,
going
on
and
us
having
to
make
sure
that
all
of
these
deductions
that
and
deduction
changes
that
happen
during
open
enrollment
are
all
in
place
before
January
December
is
just
a
really
busy
month.
F
F
That
is
the
next
sort
of
window
where
all
of
the
flsa
Cycles
align
on
those
flsa
Cycles
are
the
cycles
that
we
are
required
to
follow
in
terms
of
how
we
pay
overtime
to
our
public
safety
personnel,
and
so
it's
it
just
makes
the
transition
a
lot
smoother
a
lot
easier,
a
lot
more
manageable
when
all
of
the
Cycles
align
so
Forest
I,
don't
know
if
RIT
director
here
I,
don't
know.
If.
AJ
AJ
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
what
Angelica
said
and
really
the
the
big
news
is
is
that
in
January
you
know
the
W-2
is
1099s,
but
also
we
have
to
implement
all
of
the
new
system
changes
that
we
just
did
for
open
enrollment.
AJ
Those
have
to
move
forward
in
January
is
really
one
of
our
busier
months
because
of
the
mandates
that
the
federal
government
puts
on
us
to
the
window
of
opportunity
in
November
is
much
better
because
we're
not
pushed
against
the
federal
deadlines
that
we
would
have
to
follow
if
we
pushed
it
into
January
so
and
like
she
said,
I
payroll
cycles
and
I.
Thank
everyone
understands
those.
It's
the
windows
don't
line
up
every
month,
because
some
Cycles
are
21
days.
Some
Cycles
are
two
weeks.
AJ
Some
Cycles
are
monthly,
so
you've
got
to
get
where
they
all
line
up
together
or
most
line
up
to
make
it
most
convenient
and
and
by
convenient
I
mean
convenience
so
that
the
math
works
so
that
everybody
gets
the
proper
pay
at
the
end
of
the
cycle.
AJ
So
really
I
have
nothing
else
to
add
everything.
Angelica
said
and
everything
that
Rita.
How
well
said
kind
of
gives
why
the
November
date
is
a
better
option
for
not
just
I.T
but
for
I.T,
HR
and
finance.
M
Thank
you
so
thank
you,
Madam
Finance
directory
and
I.T
director
for
helping
me
with
that
portion.
So,
inter
that's
our
recommended
recommended
implementation
timeline.
November
12th,
as
we
mentioned,
is
Optimum,
but
there
is
an
alternate
implementation
that
should
Council
decides
or
elects
to
choose
the
alternate
versus
the
recommended.
M
So
in
terms
of
the
appeals
timeline
in
I,
wanted
to
make
sure
I
share
with
counsel
and
update
on
that
and
in
terms
of
us,
bringing
back
the
resolution
for
Council
to
approve
today,
one
of
the
things
that
I
took
away
from
that
September
13th
meeting
and
after
reviewing
the
council
meeting
again,
one
of
the
primary
things
that
I
took
away
from
it
is
Council
wanted
a
a
an
update
on
the
appeal
status
because
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
employees
were
taken
care
of,
or
at
least
their
appeals
were
heard
and
Evergreen
HR
had
reviewed
those
appeals.
M
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
a
update
for
you
on
that
today.
So,
with
the
appeals
processes,
beginning
September,
the
6th
employees
were
able
to
start
submitting
appeals
to
Evergreen,
and
they
did
so.
We
asked
employees
to
complete
submitting
their
appeals
by
September
the
16th
and
primarily
they
did
a
few
employees
trickled
in
in
terms
of
appeals
since
that
time,
but
by
and
large
we're
still
at
the
number
that
we
reported
to
you
last
time
and
then
on
October,
the
10th
Excuse
me.
Yes,
October
the
11th.
M
We
did
have
meetings
with
some
department
heads
related
to
the
appeals,
because
the
consultant
was
being
prepared,
Was
preparing
to
make
recommendations
related
to
the
appeals
and
wanted
to
make
sure
we
consulted
with
the
department
heads
where
those
adjustments
would
be
impacted
and
then
on
October
the
20th,
the
Evergreen
they
completed
their
review
of
all
of
those
400
plus
appeals.
They
reviewed
they
completed
that
process
and
then
on
October
the
24th.
Those
updated
recommendations
were
sent
out
to
all
of
those
400
plus
employees.
M
So
they
have
received
Evergreens
recommendation
as
it
relates
to
the
appeals
that
they've
submitted
now
all
employees
as
we
move
toward
him
depending
on
councils
in
terms
of
the
date
that
we
implement
the
pay
plan.
M
But
all
all
employees
will
receive
a
final
recommendation
letter
for
those
whether
they
had
an
adjustment,
since
they
received
their
initial
preliminary
letter
or
not,
but
all
employees
will
receive
a
final
recommendation
letter
so
that
they
know
when
the
pay
plan
is
implemented,
that
we
decided
November
the
12th
so
that
they
know
that
when
they
get
their
paycheck
they've
got
their
letter
from
Evergreen.
That
says
this
is
your
pay
grade.
This
is
your
job
title
and
this
is
your
recommended
pay.
M
So
they'll
have
that
letter
in
their
hand
to
know
this
is
what's
being
recommended
and
they
can
see
that
that's
what's
going
to
be
in
their
paycheck
and
in
terms
of
the
analysis,
as
I
mentioned,
those
total
476
appeals
that
were
submitted
by
employees
to
Evergreen
I
mentioned
to
you
that
260
of
those
were
General
government
employees,
216
of
those
were
Public
Safety
employees,
and
then
there
was
another
75
appeals
that
were
submitted
with
insufficient
information
and
that
they
did
not
request
anything.
M
They
didn't
ask
for
anything
so
that
left
about
400
appeals
for
Evergreen
to
review
that
related
to
an
employee's
higher
date,
their
class
date
job
title.
Their
base,
pay
of
maybe
they
were
just
requested,
a
re-evaluation
of
their
position.
So
Evergreen
completed
those
appeals,
as
I
mentioned,
on
October
the
20th
and
on
October
24th.
Those
employees
received
a
letter
of
recommendation
from
Evergreen
of
those
400
or
so
appeals
that
were
submitted.
M
Evergreen
approved
25
of
those
appeals,
meaning
that
a
pay
adjustment,
a
great
adjustment
or
a
title
adjustment
was
made
for
25
of
those
employees.
There
is
another
60
or
so
adjustments
where
that
were
made,
adjustments
and
pay
grades,
and
a
lot
of
this
had
to
do
with
internal
Equity
related
to
the
CDL
Drivers.
M
As
you
all
recalled
for
CDL
Drivers,
we
determined
that
they
would
make
the
minimum
of
21
an
hour,
so
that
had
an
internal
impact
as
it
relate
to
some
of
the
division,
managers,
crew
leaders
and
other
supervisors
within
those
departments.
So
there
were
some
additional
adjustments
made
for
internal
Equity.
That
happened
primarily
within
the
public
works
department,
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department,
some
adjustment
made
within
the
e911
and
then
at
the
Trade
Center.
So
some
of
those
adjustments
were
very
incremental
and
some
of
them
were
more
significant.
M
With
those
appeals,
I
can
tell
you
that
not
all
of
those
400
plus
employees
were
pleased
with
the
recommendation
that
they
received
from
from
Evergreen
I
can
tell
you
that,
because
some
employees
who
receive
their
appeals
have
already
reached
out
to
me,
they've
reached
out
to
Evergreen
and
said
I
still,
don't
think
this
was
right.
I
still
want
my
job
to
be
reviewed.
I,
don't
think
my
pay
is
accurate.
How
can
I
appeal
this
even
further?
M
M
Now,
having
said
that,
as
Council,
and
we
talked
about
this
in
September
and
the
last
time
that
I
came
and
talked
with
you,
the
appeals
process,
we
are
where
we
are
with
it
now.
Evergreen
haven't
sent
those
400,
plus
recommendations
back
to
employees
and
they've
received
those
we're
also
on
a
on
a
track.
M
Implementation
of
the
pay
plan
we're
ready
to
go
with
council's
approval,
but
this
is
where
we
are
right
now
in
terms,
and
we
said
that
we
would
do
these
things
simultaneously.
We
wouldn't
stop
implementation
for
sake
of
dealing
with
the
appeals
and
you
see
where
we
are
with
the
appeals
right
now
and
I've
shared
with
you,
where
we
are
with
the
implementation
process.
M
So
just
a
couple
other
things
that
are
still
on
the
table.
I
also
talked
with
you
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
with
regard
to
the
public
safety,
education
and
Senate.
Hra
is
still
reviewing
that.
We
expect
to
complete
our
analysis
of
that
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
because
we
also
will
consult
with
the
Departments
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
in
terms
of
what
hrc's
and
if
the
department
sees
something
different
than
what
we
see.
So
we're
still
working
on
that
analysis.
M
But
we
expect
to
have
that
done
relatively
soon.
There's
just
some
other
things
and
I
mentioned
this,
so
that
when
we
come
back
and
you
see
an
ordinance
related
to
the
new
pay
plan
because
with
the
UGA
pay
plan
that
we
have
right
now,
there
were
certain
ordinances
that
were
added
over
the
years
and
HR
is
looking
at
all
of
those
ordinance,
which
is
not
a
lot.
But
there
are
a
few
audiences
out
there
that
were.
AA
M
That
had
to
do
specific
with
the
UGA
pay
plan,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
look
at
those
ordinances
and
see
if
they
need
to
be
transitioned
so
that
they
comply
with
the
new
pay
plan.
So
we're
working
on
that
I.
Don't
expect
that
to
be
very
many
I'm
only
aware
of
a
couple
right
now,
but
we'll
be
working
on
those
and
those
will
be
cleanup
ordinances
that
we
will
bring
back.
M
So
that
is
all
that
I
have
right
now
in
terms
of
the
implementation
and
the
appeals,
review
process
and
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
I
do
have
one
last
slide
that
I
will
share
with
Council,
but
I
wanted
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
right
now
related
to
implementation
and
with
the
appeals
process.
Counselor.
K
House,
thank
you,
mayor,
HR,
Director
hollywell.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
I
know
you
all
have
worked
very
hard
trying
to
make
this
happen
and
there's
a
lot
of
frustration
here
there
in
Yonder
about
what's
going
on
so
those
315
or
so
people
that
they're
out
there
they
they
could
continue
the
appeal
process.
It's
315
people
whose
appeals
were
not
approved.
Basically,
something
like
that.
K
And
that
would
include
like
those
two
people,
that
you
sent
me
a
message
today.
Two
different
incidents
that
I
sent
you
that
I
I
admit
I,
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
read
that
and
comprehend
it.
So
I
may
have
to
ask
you
an
additional
question
so
that
I
comprehend
what
you
told
me,
but
that's
part
of
that
315
or
so
people
that.
K
H
R
Thank
you.
How
can
you
implement
this?
You
have
those
because
you
know
the
education
aspect
you
said
was
baked
in
and
that
you
were
going
to
bring
it
back
to
us.
You
know
that's
going
to
change
the
amount
of
funds.
I
mean
that's
going
to
change
the
numbers.
M
Well,
yes,
there
there
will
be
a
cost
associated
with
it,
as
it
relates
to
the
education
and
Senate
for
Public
Safety.
There
is
a
cost
associated
with
it,
and
when
we
bring
back
our
review
of
the
analysis,
it
will
include
that
cost.
Now,
that's
not
going
to
hinder
implementation,
because
the
education
incentive
is
a
separate
pay
line.
M
It
doesn't
impact
the
employee's
base
pay,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about
with
the
implementation
of
the
new
pay
plan.
We're
talking
about
the
employees
base
pay.
The
education
incentive
is
a
separate
pay
line
aside
from
their
base
pay,
but.
R
You
you
just
said
that
it
is,
there
is
going
to
be
a
cost.
Yes,
part
of
that,
and
I
have
a
hard
time.
You
know
voting
to
implement
something
when
we
haven't
seen
the
true
cost
of
of
the
implementation
of
it.
That
was
talked
about
I
think
over
a
month
ago
that
that
was
going
to
come
back
to
us
and
we
haven't
seen
anything
about
it
in
you
know
we
need
to.
We
need
to
know
what
it's
going
to
cost.
R
C
H
City
manager
and
so
mayor,
of
course,
when
the
pay
classification
compensation
study
was
brought
forward.
H
All
of
that
was
baking
and
I
think
that's
the
word
you've
been
using,
and
so
the
paper
plan
was
brought
forward
with
that's
what
it
is,
and
so
we
heard
from
Public
Safety
officials
with
education
prior
to
the
UGA
pay
plan,
implementation
in
2006,
you
heard
from
them
and
I
think
you
wanted
us
to
do
something
about
the
education,
and
so
that's
what
we
said
we
would
do
and
because
it
was
I
mean
if
it
had
been.
H
If
it
had
not
been
baked
in
to
what
they
are
the
proposed
paid,
we
would
have
had
a
final
number
at
that
time,
and
so,
and
so
we
said
we
will
go
back
and
we
will
identify
every
person
who
had
education
prior
to
the
UGA
plan,
implementation
in
2006.
H
H
No,
so
then
the
option
would
be
do
if
it's
more
than
you
want
to
pay.
Don't
do
it.
That's
your
option,
don't
do
it,
but
we
said
that
we
were
gonna
because
they
came
to
you
and
we
heard
from
you.
We
were
going
to
go
and
determine
that
pay
and
whatever
it
is
we're
going
to
pay
them
for
their
education
and
so
the
only
option
when
we
bring
the
number
forward.
If
it's
larger
than
what
you
want
to
see,
council
member
can
say
it's
already
baked
in
we're
not
going
to
do
it.
H
So
if
you
don't
want
us
to
continue
down
that
road,
I
mean
we
could
stop
it
right
now,
but
I
think
that's
what
they
were
insisting
and
we
basically
agreed
that
we
would
pay
them
for
their
education
and
it
would
not
be
baked
in
as
it
had
been.
It
has
been
baked
in
since
2006
right.
Yes,
this
has
been
baked
in
since
2006..
They
haven't
been
getting
a
separate
line
item
and
now
well,
she
is
done
and
you
bring
it
back,
they're
going
to
get
a
separate
line
item.
D
R
But
we
had
asked
for
it
to
be
presented
to
us
how
much
the
cost
was
going
to
be
because
I
know
that
councilor
Davis
said
that
he
did
not
want
to
go
outside
of
the
perimeter,
the
cost
perimeter
that
we
had
already
set,
and
so
we
needed
to
know
what
that
cost
was
to
to
make
the
decision.
Well,
you
know
about
I,
don't
I,
don't
understand
how
we
could
flip
this
switch.
R
H
C
H
M
M
Well,
several
counselors,
including
Council
crab
and
Counseling
of
houses,
especially
asked
about
because
we,
when
we
presented
the
class
parity
part
of
that
presentation,
was
we
needed
a
pay
plan
that
we
could
afford
and
we
needed
a
pay
plan
that
we
could
Implement
and
sustain,
and
so
from
an
Administration
standpoint.
M
With
consultation
with
our
consultant,
we
ultimately
presented
the
option
of
a
class
parody
and
that's
what
we've
been
working
with
over
these
months
is
that
particular
option
of
a
class
parody
and
to
further
make
sure
that
we
could
Implement
and
sustain.
We
also
added
a
25
cap,
meaning
no
adjustment
could
be
more
than
25
percent
and
we
implemented
these
zones,
which
also
helped
pair
the
cost
down
for
the
class
parity
and
today
for
the
implementation
of
the
pay
plan
that
you've
adopted.
M
M
That
council
could
look
at
and
consider
if
it
wanted
to
provide
more
of
an
award
to
employees
for
their
longevity,
and
so
I'll
just
run
through
these
here
and
get
down
to
the
very
last
one
which
it
sounded
like
some
council
members
wanted,
which
was
to
be
able
to
provide
longevity
paid
for
employees
for
all
of
their
tenure,
but
the
second
one
from
the
top.
M
There
is
the
class
parody
that
we're
implementing,
based
on
your
approval
with
no
cap,
the
no
25
cap,
but
with
the
zone,
so
it
still
pairs
it
down
a
little
bit,
but
that
one's
at
the
cost
to
implement.
That
is
at
14.85
million.
If
we
still
stayed
with
class
parity.
But
we
took
away
the.
A
M
The
25
cap,
no
cap
and
no
zones
that
cost
would
be
you'd,
be
able
to
provide
more
of
an
adjustment
for
employees.
That
cost
is
at
15.9
million.
If
we
adopted
a
hybrid
approach.
The
hybrid
approach
is
a
a
split
between
the
class
parody
and
the
tenure.
It
looks
at
class
parody,
but
it
also
gives
the
employees
more
tenure.
It
doesn't
give
them
100
credit
for
their
tenure,
but
it
gives
them
some
tenure,
so
you've
got
the
hybrid
as
an
option.
M
You'd
have
no
caps
and
no
Zone
the
cost
of
that
is
20.7
million
dollars
and
then
another
option
related
to
the
hybrid
option.
Is
you
implement
that
with
a
25
cap
and
no
zones,
the
cost
of
that
is
17.5
million
dollars,
and
then
the
option
here
on
tenure,
which
I
will
say,
is
not
recommended
by
the
consultant.
No
Cap,
no
zones,
you
give
employees
full
credit
for
all
of
their
years
of
tenure.
The
cost
to
implement
the
10-year
option
is
at
25
million
dollars.
H
H
and
it
would
cost
you
25
million
a
year
and
then
you'll
pay
for
Education.
When
you
get
done
calculating
for
police,
we
simply
can't
afford
it,
and
so
the
pay
plan
that
came
forward
to
counsel
everybody's
not
going
to
like
it,
but
we
brought
you
with
this
government
can
pay
for
and
sustain
now
and
into
the
future.
H
Then
we
we
talked
about
Integrated
Waste
and
someone
said
well,
you
know
we
needed
a
million
dollars
to
be
able
to
go
to
where
and
didn't
want
that,
and
we
talked
about
some
millage
in
some
other
categories
and
you
didn't
want
that.
We
fixed
all
that,
but
we
are
bringing
you
what
we
believe
this
government
can
pay
for
and
sustain
it,
and
if
you
want-
and
we
can
do
any
of
those
categories
up
there-
you
want
as
long
as
you
feel
we
can
pay
for
it.
K
S
M
M
Within
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we
got
another
council
meeting
in
November
I.
O
A
X
Okay,
going
back
to
comparisons
and
things
that
they
did
Evergreen
my
focal
point
right
now.
Interest
is
I
had
some
comments
from
public
works.
I
had
some
pop
from
Parks
and
Rec,
so
I'm
still
feeling
some
kind
of
way
that
they
all
work
a
lot
of
hours,
but
Parks
and
Rec
or
notorious
for
working
weekends.
X
X
M
Well,
the
the
the
the
study
did
not
look
specifically
at
one
Department,
maybe
working
more
hours
than
another.
It
looked
at
the
jobs
for
those
departments
for
those
specific
employees,
what
was
their
job
and
how
that
compared
internally
and
externally.
So
if
someone
has
a
job
where
they
may
work
extra
hours
on
the
weekend
versus
another
department,
they
didn't
work
as
many
hours.
You
know
that
wasn't
something
that
the
study
would
have
particularly
considered.
H
M
X
Since
we
brought
up
Civic,
Center
and
Trade
Center,
where
was
there
any
consideration
that
these
people
work
well
seven
days,
I
mean
all
times.
Let.
H
Me
tell
you
what
we
count
on.
We
count
on
those
leaders.
You
know
when
they
work
weekends.
Like
that,
there's
going
to
be
a
break,
I
mean
you
know
they
they
could
adjust
hours
and
they're
not
come
in.
You
know
Monday
and
Tuesday.
If
there's
nothing
going
on,
and
so
in
that
industry
you've
got
a
be
flexible
with
your
employees
and
and
that's
we
expect
a
leadership
in
those
organizations
to
be
flexible
and
work
with
those
employees.
H
When
I
was
Deputy
managing
filled
in
as
interim
director
of
the
Civic
Center,
for
example,
I
mean
I
dealt
with
it
firsthand
and
I
know
that
city
manager,
Lisa
Goodman,
has
done
it
multiple
times.
You
tell
those
people
when
they
work
the
midnight
at
a
concert
on
Saturday
night,
don't
come
in
here,
Monday
yeah.
AI
H
X
H
H
They
gave
them
yeah
or
anything
you
can
respond,
but
I
think
they
evaluated
the
jobs
based
on
the
internal
external
Market
and
and
then
knowing
that
they
gotta
be
flexible.
Yeah.
M
H
Mean
we're
here
tonight
and
we
we
may
be
here
to
midnight,
but
we
got
some
people
here
that
are
working.
They
worked
all
day
today,
right
and
so,
if
they're
not
at
work
at
nine
o'clock
tomorrow
morning,
and
they
don't
have
a
meeting
scheduled,
they
should
have
control
their
schedule
that
they
don't
have
early
morning
meetings
I
expect
them
to
adjust
their
hours.
X
M
As
I
said,
Council
have
not
only
a
lot
of
our
departments.
Public
Safety
is
a
very
good
one.
They
worship
they
work,
shift
work
and
they
work
weekends.
They
work
holidays.
So
do
those
departments
that
you
mentioned
in
public
works
Parks
and
Rec
Civic
Center,
the
Trade
Center,
and
this
didn't
just
start
happening.
They've
always
worked
that
way
so
to
say,
because
they
have
these
odd
schedules,
did
we
give
them
extra
money
because
they
work.
These
are
scheduled.
M
The
the
best
response
that
I
can
give
to
you
councilor
Huff,
is
that
their
jobs
when
they
submitted
their
JTA
Win
Evergreen
reviewed
the
job
descriptions
for
every
full-time,
regular
employee
with
the
city
there.
In
that
job
description
it
describes
what
that
person
does.
It
describes
it
in
details,
the
hours
of
work,
their
major
duties.
You
know
the
education
training
everything
that's
required
in
that
job,
job
description,
so
the
fact
that
they
work,
weekends
and
holidays
is
already
considered
and
I've
used.
M
My
word
baked
in,
if
you
will
again
it's
already
considered
but
in
terms
of
parks
and
rec
and
Public
Works
I
do
want
to
speak
to
that
because
you
asked
about
the
comparison
of
those
two
and
Evergreen
talked
about
this
I
think
once
maybe
not
here
at
this
Podium,
but
from
one
perspective
Public
Works
is
you
know
there
is
typically
a
bigger
outfit
than
your
Parks
and
Rec
Department,
so
I.
M
The
question
was:
how
can
they
be
equal,
they're,
just
two
different
departments
with
two
different
missions,
but
in
terms
of
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
internal
Equity
between
Public,
Works
and
Parks
and
Rec?
The
consultant
has
reviewed
that
more
than
once,
we've
had
meetings
with
the
Departments
and
I
think
the
department
is
definitely
with
the
final
recommendations
that
those
employees
receive
we'll
see,
we'll
see
some
adjustments
based
on
what
the
consultant
reviewed
and
discussed
with
those
Department
directors.
X
Because
those
two
all
four
are
vital,
but
I
ask
about
those
two,
because
in
what
we've
been
talking
about
in
promoting
Columbus
and
doing
what
we
do,
they're
vital
absolutely
because
they
work
extended
hours,
all
the
time,
weekends
and
everything
so
did
we
ever
get
any
clarification
on
division
managers
across
those
two?
Yes,.
M
Now
I'm
saying
yes
to
you,
councilor
Huff,
you
saw
the
number
of
pills
that
were
approved
here
so
of
that
400
400
plus
employees
are
not
probably
going
to
be
happy
because
we
weren't
able
to
say
yes
to
400
plus
employees
But.
To
answer
your
question:
yes,
Parks
and
Rec,
and
public
works
and
I
mentioned
that
in
my
slide
here
those
were
the
two
departments
that
received
the
most
adjustments
through
these.
This
review.
Okay,.
X
X
Okay,
I'm
just
trying
you
know
it
sounds
good,
but
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
trying
to
figure
out,
whereas
we
have
a
certain
number
of
employees
that
will
get
raises
and
and
it
will
help
them
to
live
better.
X
M
About
my
response
again,
councilor
Hub
is
two
the
best
of
what
I
believe
the
consultant
could
do
and
based
on
our
consultation
with
the
Departments.
What
has
been
requested
to
bring
forward
which
we've
brought
forward
and
Council
has
adopted,
is
a
pay
plan
that
we
can
Implement
and
sustain.
Is
it
going
to
make
everybody
100
happy
the
way
they
want
to
be
happy?
Probably
not
okay.
Thank
you.
H
So
I
I
do
need
the
financial
director
to
make
one
clarification
about
the
pay
period.
F
Yes,
the
pay
period,
so
we
still
receive
pay
for
Fridays
out
of
the
five
Fridays
in
December
pay
of
some
sort.
You
get
three
regular
paychecks
on
it.
We
get
one
on
the
second
one
on
the
16th
and
one
on
the
30th,
then
there's
the
sick,
bonus
checks
on
the
ninth
that
we'll
process.
So
that's
four
out
of
the
five
Fridays
we
receive
pay,
but
the
timeline
reference
that
will
be
paid
on
November,
25th
and
I.
Believe
the
thought
was
that
that
is
when
the
pay
period
ends.
F
Yes,
ma'am.
We
we
receive
a
paycheck
full
bi-weekly
paycheck
on
December,
2nd,
the
next
one
is
December
16th
and
then
December
30th
and
then
there's
the
six
six
bonus
checks.
If
Council
approves
that'll
be
paid
out
on
December,
9th.
H
So
I
think
we're
at
the
question.
Obviously
the
appeals
process
will
continue
and
you
know
the
remaining
appeals
that
didn't
perhaps
get
what
they
were
looking
for.
They
can
still
follow
that
process
to
be
further
considered.
New
appeals
may
come
in
and
that
can
happen
up
to
a
two-year
period
as
we
talked
about
and
so
and
so
that
won't
stop.
If
you
approve
the
implementation
of
the
pay
plan,
the
appeals
process
will
continue,
and-
and
so
we
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that-
but
in
order
to
get
employees.
H
H
H
H
Who
are
getting
results
from
the
pastry
will
get
their
money
and
they
are
we're
asking
Council
to
approve
the
resolution.
We
require
a
motion.
C
H
E
C
E
Is
an
add-on
be
number
11
on
our
agenda
around
the
table.
You've
got
a
resolution
concerning
the
Continental
carbon
Corporation.
This
would
oppose
any
extension
of
the
consent
decree
between
Continental
carbon
Inc
and
the
United
States
of
America
they've
had
one
extension
from
December
31
2020
when
they
paid
a
fine
through
December
31
2022
they're.
Now
seeking
another
extension
on
this
resolution
would
oppose
that.
C
C
Right
next
public
agenda,
Mrs
ladini,
has
been
very
patient,
Ms
Jennifer
ledenne
regarding
a
request
to
add
now
comp
and
comprehensive
support,
labor
program
and
planning
list
to
the
the
legislative
agenda.
So
you
have
five
minutes.
Yes,.
AK
40
Diana,
Avenue
and
I'm
here
just
to
ensure
that,
hopefully
we
get
the
now
comp
flavor
and
issues
possibly
put
on
the
legislative
agenda
I'm
here
today,
this
time
on
behalf
of
myself
and
my
family
as
well
as
89
others
in
Muskogee
County
affected
by
the
challenges
with
the
planning
list,
I'm
here
for
just
to
ask
y'all
to
be
allies
to
help
us
with
these
challenges,
we
need
more
voices
in
this
and
I
don't
know.
Sometimes
it
feels
like
we're
not
getting
anywhere
so
to
be
clear.
AK
AK
Some
of
these
services
are
in
home
or
in
community
and
consists
of
stuff,
like
Community
Living
supports
where
you
go
out
into
the
community
and
actually
do
things
that
would
take
advantage
of
like
grocery
shopping
or
just
acquiring
a
bus.
Others
are
adult
occupational,
physical
and
speech
therapy,
and
the
list
goes
on.
There's
a
multitude
of
services
that
these
cover
the
problems
that
we're
having
is,
first
of
all,
it's
not
very
clear
on
the
funding.
AK
It
comes
from
Department,
Community,
Health
and
then
is
filtered
through
the
Department
of
Behavioral,
Health
and
developmental
disabilities
to
be
distributed
as
services,
and
so
right
now
our
numbers
that
are
standing
for
the
list
of
those
waiting
to
finally
get
moved
from
being
approved
to
actually
acquiring
Services
is
currently
7
185.
AK
Dbhd
has
put
out
information
that
this
is
not
a
complicated
process
that
the
way
it's
only
four
to
five
years.
That
is
not
the
case.
My
family
we've
waited
four
years,
we're
going
to
wait
longer
because
our
son
is
younger
and
I'm
younger.
Despite
my
mobility
issues,
as
you
clearly
see
when
I
come
here,
can't
even
sit
still,
it
impacts
my
child's
life
and
impacts
his
progress.
He
tends
to
progress
when
he's
kept
home
more,
he
needs
Community
Living
support,
we're
not
getting
that,
and
so
the
other
is
the
application
process.
AK
If
you
do
it
properly,
you're,
looking
at
a
stack
of
paperwork
about
an
inch
thick,
it's
only
listed
as
a
two
to
three
page
application,
so
it's
very
misleading
to
some
of
our
families.
The
other
is
for
the
7
71
7200
that
are
waiting.
There
are
thousands
that
are
not
aware
of
these
services.
This
information
is
only
put
on
the
website.
Most
people
learn
from
other
families
such
as
mine,
and
so
they
had
no
idea
that
these
are
even
accessible
to
them.
AK
AK
The
other
problem
we're
having
is
the
governors
current
plus
pass,
have
only
approved
one
to
seven
percent
of
the
list
each
year
and
we're
supposed
to
have
gratitude
for
just
500
this
year
being
approved
500..
That's
it
there's
a
lot
of
exclusionary
practices,
as
in
the
IEPs
not
matching
IPS
are
individual
education
plans.
The
eligibility
does
not
meet
the
needs
of
the
diagnosis,
primarily
the
other
is
they
have
come
over
disorders
like
mine,
has
autism
and
bipolar.
AK
AK
We
keep
having
Services
cut
and
we're
also
facing
lack
of
personnel.
There's
no
big
effort
being
put
into
finding
Personnel.
We
have
to
find
our
own.
We
homegrown
our
providers
where's
our
help
on
this.
So
what
I'm
asking
a
long
story
short
is
to
strengthen
our
voice,
whether
it's
your
voice,
your
Vote
or
your
network,
to
help
us
start
bringing
this
to
the
head.
So
the
governor
and
all
the
legislators
underneath
are
making
these
decisions
can
finally
hear
our
voices
that
they're
loud
enough.
C
R
The
question
for
you,
miss
La
Danny,
but
I
do
have
a
question
for
maybe
the
city
manager
or
the
mayor
can
we
can
we
add
something
to
the
legislative
agenda
on
this
about
this
and
and
just
bring
it
to
or
do
we
just
talk
to
our
legislative.
C
Our
delegation,
in
fact,
all
the
way
up
through
the
beginning
of
the
session.
We
can
continue
to
do
that.
Just.
R
Q
Q
Woodson,
okay,
yes,
I
was
going
to
ask
same
question
but
a
little
bit
different
Isaiah.
Is
this
something
that
she
can
meet
with
staff
to
get
all
that
data
information
so
that
we
can
put
it
in
the
legislative
agenda.
Q
Because
it
is
an
issue,
I
I
have
two
families
right
now
that
have
children
that
have
autism
and
they're
having
problems
putting
them
in
school,
and
it
is
very
difficult
and
it's
a
growing
problem
in
our
community
at
least
putting
it
on
the
legislation
agenda.
They
can
start
talking
about.
It
doesn't
mean
it's
gonna
pass
this
year,
but
at
least
the
conversation
can
start
of
the
need
to
expand
Medicaid
to
cover
this
portion.
Here.
H
Well,
we
are
going
to
be
coming
back
to
council
with
those
items
that
were
delayed
and
so
could.
H
And
and
I
would
ask
that
she
shared
some
information
with
the
city
attorney's
office
and
let
them
draft
something
that
suits
what
you're.
Looking
for
Council
Woodson.
Q
Okay,
so
you
just
get
with
our
City
attorney,
then
he
would
draw
it
up
appropriately
and
correct
in
the
right
format
and
city
manager
will
bring
it
back
and
then
we
can
continue
to
to
see
how
we
can
help.
You
again
doesn't
mean
it's
gonna
pass
this
year,
but
if
you
can
get
the
conversation
going
at
least
there's
some,
you
know
some
hope
for
the
future.
Yes,.
AK
Because,
like
we
had
a
bill
last
two
sessions
and
ended
up,
you
know
hitting
the
debt
Bill
dealing
with
emptying
the
now
comp
waiver
planning
list.
So
I.
X
X
AK
Okay,
this
Friday,
the
mayor's
committee
for
persons
with
just
disabilities,
is
actually
hosting
a
resource
and
career
fair
at
the
main
library,
from
10
30
to
2.
and
during
this
Rita
young
who's.
An
advocate
on
now
and
comp
waivers
is
going
to
be
speaking
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
valuable
information
with
that.
Maybe
a
lot
more
clearer
than
you
know,
I
presented,
because
you
can
only
present
so
much
in
five
minutes.
AK
It's
a
very
complicated
process
and
I
would
really
highly
encourage
anyone
interested
to
attend
that
and
speak
with
Rita
young
and
I'll
see
if
I
can
get
with
her.
Maybe
to
actually
you
know
get
with
the
city
manager.
I
mean
City
attorney.
I'm.
Sorry,
I
got
I'm.
Q
A
Q
AK
Get
with
him
tomorrow
all
right
and
thank
you,
you're
welcome
everyone.
That's
speaking
spoke
with
me
as
well,
because
it
makes
a
difference
when
you're
in
that
frustration.
All.
C
All
right
next
City
manager's
agenda.
H
Okay,
so
next
we've
got
the
public
art
design
for
18th,
Street
and
5th
Avenue
in
Deputy
city
manager.
Hodge
is
here
in
in
some
of
the
proponents
and
supporters
and
she's
going
to
talk
to
us
before
we
ask
you
to
consider
voting
on
this
item.
W
Thank
you
do
how
do
I
forward
this
sorry,
hello,
hi,
I'm,
Hannah,
Israel
from
Columbus,
State,
University,
645,
2nd
Avenue.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
time
to
present
this.
We
were
here
about
two
years
ago
and
looking
forward
to
showing
you
the
presentation.
For
the
past
few
months
we've
been
working
with
an
artist
Thomas
detour.
Evans
a
detour
is
his
street
name,
but
he
is
quite
an
amazing
artist.
W
During
that
time,
we
had
a
town
hall
meeting
with
the
local
community,
specifically
people
from
the
community
of
Rose
Hill,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
this.
My
partner
in
crime,
Rebecca
Sajak
can't
be
here
but
she's
watching
right
now
and
I'm.
Also
here
with
my
our
biggest
supporters,
Joel
aim
was
from
the
Piedmont
Regional
Sally
Bradley
who's,
an
artist
local
artist,
a
huge
advocate
for
the
Arts
Steve
Morris
VP
president
for
our
plan
operations
at
Columbus,
State,
University
and
Sharika.
Today,
Sharika
is
everything
as
you
introduction.
W
Okay,
so
this
is
what
the
artist
proposal
and
design
had
come
to
be
and
again
this
is
Thomas,
Evans
and
Thomas
how
this
came
to
be
after
the
meeting
with
the
local
community.
W
There
was
a
group
of
the
locals
who
were
really
interested
in
becoming
part
of
this,
and
you
know
the
majority
of
it
was
part
of
the
Ronald
McDonald
House
was
a
really
huge
part
of
it.
We
met
with
Kiana
the
director
there
and
also
Joel
from
Piedmont
had
recommended
a
number
of
people
who
might
be
interested
in
be
in
being
part
of
this.
W
Along
with
that
with
Thomas.
We
also
asked
a
local
photographer
Sammy
Saxon,
to
go
around
with
Thomas
to
talk
to
the
community
to
visit
the
neighborhood
eat
at
Vicki's
soul,
food
where
we
met
so
many
really
amazing
people.
Unfortunately,
at
that
time,
Rose
Hill
was
closed
and
we
couldn't
go,
and
you
know,
introduce
him
to
the
locals
at
Rose
Hill,
which
is,
as
you
know,
it's
like
the
place
to
go
to.
W
W
They
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
allowed
to
photograph
them
and
so
from
all
the
photographs
that
we
that
Sammy
took
detour
took
those
photos
and
selected
people
from
the
community
and
I
also
forgot
a
fox
Elementary
School
was
one
of
the
organizations
that
we
went
to
and
also
had
permissions
from
parents
to
take
photographs
of
the
kids.
So
what
you're
seeing
here
are
representative
of
all
those
organizations,
and
some
of
them
didn't
make
the
cut,
but
you
know
they
all
represent,
and
the
people
in
our
community
this
a
close-up.
W
So
one
of
the
things
about
this
presentation
is
that
these
are
just
photographs.
The
renderings
are
going
to
look
really
different
from
when
he
paints
it.
So
he
added
these
images
that
where
what
it
would
look
like
from
a
photo
to
a
rendering-
and
these
are
example
of
works-
that
he's
done-
he's
done
hundreds
of
these
all
over
the
nation
and
he
talks
to
these
people.
He
knows
the
people
he
really
engages
in
them.
It's
about
their
story,
but
also
about
all
of
our
stories.
W
Oh
so
I'm
also
have
we've
been
working
with
Columbus
State
facilities
and
Steve
Moore's
is
helping
me
along
in
trying
to
work
in
the
logistics
for
the
project.
So
thank
you.
V
C
AF
W
A
W
H
You
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Next
I've
got
the
fiscal
year:
2023
Georgia
DOT
y
410
funds,
7
780.58.
C
C
All
right
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
for
item
five,
any
discussion.
C
H
Yeah
and
next
we've
got
20
25
funding.
C
U
And
this
this
is
to
be
one
million
dollars
each
year
for
three
years
to
come
from
our
portion
of
the.
Q
C
AD
C
H
Right
now
and
mayor,
if
it
wasn't
so
late,
I
would
have
invited
them,
but
you're
welcome
to
come
and
say
something
I.
Don't
think
you
want
to
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
then
number
six
I've
got
Inc
increase
in
appearance
per
diem
rate
for
court
reporting
services
that
the
judges
have
asked
for
motion.
AD
H
So
I've
got
a
recycling
waste
reduction
in
diversion
Grant
application,
I've
got
state
and
local
cyber
security
Grant
got
Jima
Hazard
mitigation
grant
for
the
purchase
of
nor
severe
weather
radios,
state
of
Georgia,
governor's
office
of
planning
and
budget
safety
and
Community
violence
grant
for
fifteen
hundred
one
for
police
and
then
the
same
Grant.
Fifteen
hundred
for
the
Sheriff's
Office
we've
got
a
2022
Brownfield
assessment,
Grant
opportunity,
500
000,
those
are
the
grants
and
then
we've
got
purchases.
H
Mayor
and
Council
I've
got
designing
Construction
Services
for
Shirley
Winston.
These
are
swimming
pools,
sure.
C
K
Z
C
A
C
H
So
yeah
a
is
authorized
an
execution
of
a
contract
with
Freeman
Associates
for
the
design
and
construction
of
new
in-ground
pools
that
Shirley
Winston,
Rigdon
and
salmon
road
parks
and
we've
got
15
million
dollars,
budgeted
to
handle
those
things
and
B.
You
just
heard
the
council
member
talk
about
that
change
order.
C
is
cancer.
Screening
kids
for
Fire
EMS,
38
750
cancer
is
now
the
number
one
cause
of
firefighter
death,
and
so
we
want
to
do
those
screenings.
H
Indeed,
making
this
repaired
operations
supplies,
equipment
and
automotive
parts
supplies
for
various
departments
on
an
as
needed
basis.
Councilor.
X
Q
B
H
A
C
Also
talked
about
trying
to
accelerate
I
know.
The
mayor,
Pro
tem
was
was,
was
pushing
this
trying
to
accelerate
some
of
the
splash
pads
in
some
of
the
areas
and
hopefully
get
those
in
next
summer
before
before
the
end
of
summer,
for
the
kids
and,
of
course,
with
the
splash
pads,
don't
have
the
same
hard
stop
date
when
school
starts
because
they're
you
don't
need
anybody
to
mean.
You
know
to
be
there
and
be
a
lifeguard
and.
Q
H
H
F
Hello
again,
as
you
receive
the
monthly
Snapchat
for
September
of
2000
22
I'm
gonna,
ask
that
you
don't
freak
out
right.
F
We
have
a
there's
a
lot
of
accrual
activity
that
happens
in
July
and
August,
and
this
is
you
know
what
we
are
accruing:
revenues
back
to
the
appropriate
fiscal
year
and
that's
really
due
to
time
and
delays
and
some
of
the
revenues
that
we
receive.
It
could
be.
You
know,
60
days
out,
we
may
receive
Revenue
in
our
in
August.
That
really
applies
to
June
and
so
didn't
want
to
give
a
finance
update
until
the
September
time
frame
to
really
sort
of
help
smooth
out
some
of
that
accrual
activity.
F
This
September,
though,
is
just
a
little
different
because
our
taxes
were
had
a
different
due
date.
This
fiscal
year,
the
taxes
are
typically
due
on
the
first
of
October
and
the
first
of
December
this
year,
this
fiscal
year
that
changed
slightly
due
to
the
counter-wide
revaluations
that
was
done
by
the
board
of
assessors
the
first
installment
due
date
was
actually
October
15th.
F
F
You
know
when
I
go
through
these
numbers,
because
again,
property
tax
revenues
have
not
been
recorded,
have
not
been
received
and
recorded
as
of
the
end
of
September,
but
we
did
receive
some
payments
from
the
tax
commissioner
last
week,
and
so
again
these
numbers
are
really
sort
of
normalized
once
I
give
October's
report
next
month,
so
starting
to
the
right
of
the
snapshot
here
with
the
Durham
fund
on
paper,
it's
down
37.39
again.
This
is
due
to
the
time
and
delays
regarding
the
tax
payments.
F
We
haven't
posted
that
tax
revenue
yet,
and
so
that
is
the
reason
for
that
difference
for
September
22
compared
to
September
21..
The
older
local
option.
Sales
tax
fund,
however,
is
up
6.17
percent.
F
The
stormwater
Farm
is
another
fund
that
is
tax
supported,
have
not
posted
the
normal
tax
revenue.
Up
to
this
point
is
showing
it
to
be
down
almost
90
percent
same
with
the
paving
fund.
That
is
also
tax
supported.
The
energy
care
fund
that
is
100
tax
supported
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
is
up,
however,
when
comparing
September
of
2022
to
September
2021
is
up
2.12
percent.
The
emergency
telephone
fund
is
up.
F
4.68
percent
The,
Economic,
Development,
Authority,
Fine,
Again
100
tax
supported,
have
not
posted
those
revenues
yet,
but
they
will,
in
this
report,
will
look
a
whole
lot
better
for
November
I
mean
for
October
The
Debt
Service
fund
is
down
4.43.53
percent
again
due
to
the
tax
postings.
The
transportation
fund
is
also
tax,
supported
it's
down
60
percent
right
now
the
Trade
Center
fund
is
down.
It
does
not
receive
any
property
taxes.
F
This
is
actually
down
the
space
rental
revenue
is
and
the
food
service
contracts
are
down
for
September
of
2022
when
compared
to
September
2021..
The
Blue
Creek
Golf
Course
fund
is
up
14.89
Oxbow
Creek
Golf
Course
fund
is
up
27.76
both
in
the
operating
Revenue
to
the
golf
courses
and
the
Civic
Center
fund
is
down
just
over
50
percent
and
again
they
don't
receive
any
tax
revenue,
but
they
did
receive
a
grant.
They've
received
two
grants
last
fiscal
year,
and
so
the
difference
is
here
for
the
Civic.
F
Center
is
related
to
the
grant
Revenue
that
was
received
last
year,
I'm
moving
down
to
Snapchat
to
the
other
local
option,
sales,
tax,
Public
Safety
summary
we,
we
posted
today,
5.4
million
in
Revenue
7.5
in
expenditures
for
the
other
local
option,
sales,
tax
infrastructure
fund
posted
2.3
million
in
Revenue
here
and
so
to
move
into
the
left
side
of
the
snapshot.
The
goal
at
this
particular
point
is
to
be
at
or
above
75
percent
in
terms
of
general
fund
expenditures
over
when
compared
to
budget.
F
You
can
see
here
those
departments
that
have
that
are
highlighted
on
the
watch
list,
so
to
speak.
So,
starting
with
the
city,
attorney's
litigation,
they're,
obviously
defending
billions
and
claims
moving
down
to
Information
Technology.
We
do
have
Annual
fees
for
software
lease
and
maintenance
agreements
that
are
due
very
early
in
the
fiscal
year,
and
so
we
do
have
to
pay
for
those
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
but
this
will
sort
of
stabilize
as
we
go
through
FY
23.
F
F
You
know
those
in
conferences
happen
at
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year,
and
so
that's
the
reason
for
that
being
on
the
watch
list.
But
again
this
is
one
of
those
apartments,
that'll
sort
of
stabilize
as
we
go
through
FY
23.
F
F
The
next
is
mCP
the
inmate
medical
contract
that
we
pay
to
the
provider
at
the
prison
that
was
encumbered
at
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year
and
so
again,
as
we
go
through
the
year
and
draw
down
on
that
encumbrance.
This
number.
F
They
should
fall
off
the
watch
list
and
then
the
last
department
is
the
public
defender.
That
is
a
contract
that
we
pay
to
the
state.
We
pay
that
a
month
in
advance,
and
that
is
the
reason
why
they'll
always
be
highlighted
here,
because
it's
paid
in
advance.
So
that,
in
the
nutshell,
is
the
snapshot
for
September
again
October's
report
will
be
better.
H
C
You
all
right
mayor,
Pro,
Tem,
thank.
D
You
mayor
I,
wanted
to
apologize.
I
had
a
little
emergency
had
to
step
out
to
the
garage
and
meet
a
family
member
out
there.
But
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
item
10
on
the
city
attorney's
agenda
and
make
a
motion
that
we
we
approve
the
pay
plan
and
I'm
sure
the
city
manager
will
provide
numbers
and
answer
any
questions
that
may
have
Arisen
I
know
we
had
a
discussion
earlier
about
some
cost
associated
with
this
I
personally
think
the
cost
are
not
significant
enough.
D
That's
going
to
impact
the
city
negatively
I'm
concerned
about
the
employees
receiving
their
their
increases
in
their
pay
by
Thanksgiving.
That's
what
I'd
like
to
have
happen
and
if
we
don't
vote
on
it
today,
it's
going
to
impact
that
somewhat
I
would
encourage
us
to
consider
that
and
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
we
pass
item
10
on
the
city,
manager's
agenda,
which
will
allow
HR
and
the
city
manager
to
go
ahead
and
pass
that
and
get
the
pay
plan
implemented.
C
Approved
pay
plan
any
discussion,
any
questions
to
any
of
that,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
I
all
right,
any
opposed
all
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
right
hand.
H
Well
now,
mayor
will
not
the
next
meeting
it'll
come
back
in
January
right.
C
C
D
S
S
S
Item
number
five:
these
are
board
appointments.
We
have
the
council's
district
seat,
appointments
for
the
public
safety
advisory
commission.
We
have
districts
one
and
five
that
are
open
for
nominations
from
the
respective
council
member
and
next
we
have
Council
appointments.
This
nomination
is
from
the
commission
and
may
be
confirmed
for
this
meeting.
C
S
And
we
will
bring
this
back
at
the
next
meeting
for
confirmation
for
the
Columbus
Board
of
Health
debica
allopan
she's
eligible
eligible
to
serve
another
term
of
office.
If
a
member
of
council
mayor
Pro,
tem
Allen,
is
nominating
her
for
another
term
for
the
corporate
extension
Advisory
Board,
Helen,
Williams
and
Margaret
Higdon
both
do
not
desire
reappointment.
These
seats
are
open
for
nominations.
S
S
They
are
all
eligible
to
serve.
Another
term
of
office.
Councilor
Huff
is
making
that
nomination
and
we
will
bring
these
back
for
confirmation
at
the
next
meeting.
We
also
have
the
seat
of
Dr
Shanita
paddaway.
This
is
an
alternate
member's
seat.
She
has
previously
resigned.
This
seat
is
open
for
nominations.
S
A
AI
AI
Group
of
dynamic
veterans
call
Veterans
United
what
they're
doing
they're
doing
free
food
at
Lake,
Bottom
Park
for
all
veterans
and
family
members,
but
also
for
all
First
Responders
Dynamic
group
of
veterans.
To
do
something
like
that,
it's
going
to
be
at
the
at
the
at
the
band
show
Lake
Bottom,
Part,
fantastic
grouper,
saying
fantastic
group
of
veterans
and
after
two
years,
Veterans
Day
Parade.
It's
going
to
be
November
12th
second
Saturday
in
November,
starting
at
9
45.
AI
K
Thank
you
Mary.
Well,
hopefully,
if
Holly
Browder
and
Justin
Creek,
and
get
everything
together
and
put
the
marker
in
the
ground,
we'll
finally
have
the
state,
the
marker
for
the
stadium.
That
explains
the
history
of
the
stadium
and
also
has
the
the
names
of
all
of
the
Columbus
area
veterans
that
died
in
World
War,
one
on
the
back
of
it,
and
the
intention
is
to
have
that
set
up
so
that,
after
the
parade,
we
can
go
there
and
have
an
unveiling
of
that.
AI
And
after
that,
and
after
that,
at
the
Civic
Center,
it's
going
to
be
a
veterans
block
party
from
two
to
five.
A
lot
of
our
area.
Artists
are
going
to
perform
for
the
veterans.
Everyone
can
come
out.
The
only
requirement
bring
your
lawn
chair
and
Mississippi
manager.
Let
me
tell
you
Rob,
Landers
and
the
crew.
The
Civic
Center
have
bent
over
backwards.
AI
For,
for
this
affair,
I
mean
there
have
been
extremely
accommodating
sincerely
appreciate
all
the
support
that
you've
got
so
this
veterans
parade
is
a
lot
of
people
have
been
looking
for.
We
were
wise
to
delay
it
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
this
veterans
block
party
is
just
to
have
everybody
come
out
just
and
just
have
a
good
time.
For
Your
Entertainment.
C
AL
Our
facilities
division
placed
a
solar
light
out,
they've
been
checking
and
working
that
to
see
if
that
will
work.
Otherwise,
if
it
does
not
work,
then
what's
going
to
happen,
they're
going
to
have
to
actually
dig
around
to
the
back
of
the
CSC
in
order
to
get
lighting
for
some
reason,
they
cannot
just
put
a
light
up
and
plug
it
in
it's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
more,
but
we
are
working
on
it.
Well,.
U
I
would
hope
that
we
work
on
it
a
little
faster.
This
has
been
several
months
now
that
it
has
been
brought
to
your
attention
and
it
has
been
since
this
building
was
built,
that
it
should
have
been
done
at
that
point
and
was
not,
but
I
I
just
really
have
a
real,
strong
feeling
about
making
sure
that
we
are
doing
what
we
are
supposed
to
do
about
honoring
our
flag,
yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you.
V
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
we're
doing
Trunk
or
Treat
at
Shirley
B
I
definitely
want
to
thank
director
Holly,
broader
Teresa
snellings
in
the
park
directors,
Courtney,
Mason
and
Sylvester
Selden
for
putting
this
together.
So
it's
October
29th
at
Shirley,
B
from
5
to
7
and
as
Nancy
born,
has
told
me
voting
is
that
day,
so
it
will
be
close
to
the
baseball
fields.