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From YouTube: Columbus Ga FY21 Budget Review Meeting 05 19 2020
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Columbus GA official Fy21 Budget Hearings
A
Good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
may
19th
meeting
of
the
Columbus
City
Council
budget
review
committee,
I'm
Judy
Thomas
I
am
chair
of
this
committee
and
the
counselor
for
council
post
9
as
we
get
started
this
morning.
The
first
thing
we
want
to
do
is
to
have
our
Clerk
of
Council
Sandra
Davis
to
call
the
roll
mr.
Davis.
Thank
you,
madam.
A
A
C
Ma'am
by
the
way,
including
from
my
wife,
no
I
just
want
to
say
good
morning
and
and
welcome
the
Budget
Committee
back
to
another
convening
of
some
pretty
hard
work
and
I
just
publicly
state
again
what
a
great
job
this
group
is
doing
under
the
madam.
But
madam
budget
chairs
leadership
and-
and
it
is
an
unusual
time
and
and
our
numbers
continue
to
reflect-
that
our
residents
are
doing
a
pretty
good
job
where
you
are
done.
C
40
positive
cases
now
and
there
been
16
people
that
have
lost
their
lives
to
this
virus,
but
our
our
hospitalization
rate
and
the
percentage,
our
positives
as
a
percentage
of
the
overall
total
number
of
tests
continue
to
decline,
and
so
I
think
that
is
a
tremendous
testimony
to
the
way
the
people
this
community
have
handled
it.
So
I
just
thought,
I'd
kind
of
give
you
a
brief
update,
while
I
had
had
the
mic
Thank.
A
You
mr.
mayor
I
do
want
to
remind
those
who
are
on
the
call.
If
you
will,
please
mute
your
microphones.
Sometimes
we
get
the
background
noise.
If
you
don't
mute
your
microphone.
So
if
you
would
do
that,
please
it
would
be
helpful.
Today's
schedule
is:
we
have
five
presentations
from
department
chairs.
We
have
a
presentation
from
our
deputy
city
manager,
Pam
Hajj
on
our
transportation
projects
and
I
did
want
to
to
say
to
the
counselors
and
to
those
watching.
A
Originally.
This
meeting
was
scheduled
to
begin
at
9:00
and
go
till
two
o'clock
this
afternoon.
That
was
before
our
finance
director
had
heard
from
department,
chairs
or
department
heads
who
wanted
to
be
on
this
call,
because
we
have
five
and
not
as
many
as
we
could
have
had.
We
probably
are
not
going
to
need
five
hours
worth
of
meeting
today.
We
had
also
originally
excuse
me
scheduled
a
break
at
11:30
from
11:30
to
12:00
our
IT
folks
and
our
CCG
TV
folks.
A
You
need
to
listen
up
here,
we're
going
to
to
move
forward
and
have
these
presentations.
We
think
miss,
Alexandra
and
I
think
that
we
probably
will
not
need
to
take
that
break,
that
we
will
be
very
near
the
end
of
the
me
at
11:30,
and
so,
if
you
guys
will
just
be
flexible
mr.
miles,
mr.
King
just
be
flexible.
A
We
and
and
if
we
need
to
break,
we
will
but
again,
as
I've
talked
to
the
finance
director,
we
think
we
may
be
finished
by
then
and
then
next
week.
Schedule
is
to
go
through
the
add
delete
list
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
A
little
more
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
of
what
our
schedule
may
need
to
be
for
next
week.
A
Speaking
of
the
add
delete
list
for
those
of
you
who
are
new
to
this
process,
we
will
have
and
have
had
presentations
from
department,
heads
or
elected
officials
who
need
believe
they
need
some
change
in
the
budget
as
presented
by
the
mayor,
and
if
there
is
an
item
that
is
presented
to
us,
if
a
councillor
votes
to
put
it
on
the
list
to
add
to
the
budget
or
to
delete
something
from
the
budget.
We
have
that
list.
A
B
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
budget,
chair
and
I,
just
want
to
say
good
morning
to
everyone
and
I
believe
the
city
manager
is
also
in
attendance
of
the
meeting.
I
want
to
yield
to
him
and
see
if
there
was
any
comments
that
you
wanted
to
make
or
address
before
the
council
today
before
I
get
started.
F
Thank
you,
finance
director,
I,
know,
I
just
want
to
say
good
morning
to
everybody
and
just
let
you
know
that
the
government
is
operating,
we're
open
some
telogen
teleworking
and
a
blend
of
physically
appearing
at
work,
and
so
we're
trying
to
get
it
done,
and
we
look
forward
to
the
rest
of
the
budget
review
and
going
into
the
new
fiscal
year.
But
thank
you
all.
E
Right
so
with
that,
madam
budget
chair
mentioned
the
add,
delete
list,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
very
quickly
go
over
the
items
that
were
added.
As
of
the
May
12th
meeting,
there
was
a
request
counselor
house
for
the
sheriff's
office
to
update
the
sheriff's
longevity
pay
reform
to
$3,500,
beginning
at
years
five
through
year
30,
and
this
only
applies
to
deputy
sheriff
grade
14
positions,
so
that
is
only
applicable
to
the
deputy
sheriff
positions,
also
only
add
delete
list.
A
A
G
I
think
you
misunderstanding
me:
you
got
or
if
you
add
something
you
got
a
show
where
you
get
the
money
from.
So
that's
what
I'm
talking
about
the.
G
A
G
A
E
F
F
K
L
H
H
If
you'll
see,
I've
just
basically
covered
just
a
few
statistical
information
for
everybody,
so
that
you
can
see
where
the
numbers
that
we
deal
with
on
a
yearly
basis,
as
well
as
a
quarterly
basis
which
you'll
see
in
2020
you'll
see,
the
calls
for
service
in
2019
was
480,000.
831
calls
to
the
center
and
for
calls
for
service
where
we
actually
had
to
send
a
police
vehicle.
It
was
two
hundred
and
sixty
nine
thousand
six
hundred
and
eleven
responses
on
the
streets
of
Columbus
Muscogee
County.
H
H
Recorders
court
cases:
last
year
we
put
ninety
five
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ninety
one
cases
or
sent
them
to
recorders
court
for
some
type
of
judicial
review.
The
citations
were
forty,
nine
thousand
hang
on
just
one
second,
forty,
nine
thousand
two
hundred
and
twenty
one
citations
that
were
issued
and
we
arrested
ten
thousand
five
hundred
and
ninety
seven
individuals
and
in
the
first
quarter
of
twenty
twenty
you'll,
see
the
numbers
that
are
compared
that
were
that
we
already
have
for
the
first
quarter
of
this
year.
H
Okay,
Jeremy
calls
for
service
and
I
broke
this
down
into
the
effect
Cobin.
Nineteen
on
police
responses,
I
went
back
to
2019
and
I,
took
February,
March
and
April
responses
or
calls
for
services.
In
that
quarter
we
had
sixty
four
thousand
five
hundred
and
forty
nine
calls
in
nineteen
and
then
in
twenty,
that
dropped
to
forty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
and
ninety
seven.
The
reports
were
sixteen
thousand
twelve
and
the
first
quarter
or
for
those
three
months
of
this
year
is
ten
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
two
public
property
accidents
which
are
roadway
accidents.
H
H
These
are
the
numbers
that
you
see.
These
are
the
part
one
crime
ten
year
trend
numbers
that
is
reported
to
the
FBI
on
a
yearly
basis,
and
you
can
see
the
numbers
and
where
we
are
in
nineteen
as
compared
to
where
we
are
in
the
first
quarter,
and
these
are
first
quarter
numbers
for
2020,
nothing
after
the
last
day
of
March
as
to
where
we
are.
H
You
see
the
numbers
down
at
the
total,
where
it
talks
about
the
number
of
part,
one
crimes
that
were
reported,
and
you
can
see
that
in
2019
we
are
again
down
next
slide.
Please
part
one
crime
reached
a
high
in
year
2009
when
there
was
fifteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
twelve
part
one
crimes
committed
and
reported
in
in
Muskogee
county
Columbus,
Georgia
Heartland
crime
has
decreased
over
the
past
five
years.
Twenty
nineteen,
eighty
four
hundred
and
twenty
part
one
crimes
were
committed
in
Columbus
that
were
reported.
H
H
There
we
are
have
it
back
now.
These
are
some
of
the
awards
and
recognitions
that
we
have
received
and
I'm
proud
to
say
that
we
are
now
on
track
to
be
to
receive
our
accreditation
from
Kalia
and
it
will
be
bestowed
on
this
department
somewhere
around
November
of
this
year,
as
well
as
state
certification,
and
these
are
the
standards
that
we
meet
on
a
daily
basis,
463
standards
in
Kalia,
and
we
have
been
recertified
five
different
times.
H
Applications,
staffing
trends:
these
are
the
number
of
applicants
that
we
get
in
the
number
of
hires
that
we
have.
The
number
of
people
resigned,
retired,
terminated,
deceased
and
a
total
loss
this
year,
we're
at
a
negative
four
for
the
number
of
people
that
we
have
had
applications
for
that
we've
actually
hired.
We
do
have
some
more
online,
probably
hopefully
for
next
week,
and
it
ought
to
at
least
zero
us
out
with
the
number
of
people
that
we
that
would
hire
in
the
number
of
people
that
we
have
lost.
H
As
you
know,
we
have
exit
interviews
for
everybody
that
leaves
the
department
we
sit
down
or
sit
them
down
talk
with
them
pencil
and
paper
and
then
get
them
to
rate
the
problems
as
they
see
it
or
the
reasons
that
they
leave
this
department.
The
number
one
reason
is
salary
and
no
step
plan.
The
number
two
is
retirement.
Number
three
is
advancement
and
number
four
or
insurance
benefits.
Next
one
please
share
me.
H
H
Two
percent
of
forty
thousand
is
about
eight
hundred
dollars
that
will
be
added
to
that
and
then,
if
they
come
in
with
an
associate
bachelor's
or
master's
next,
one
chair
of
employees
benefits
if
you'll
see
the
benefits
from
the
left
and
on
the
right,
it's
how
those
benefits
are
paid
to
the
officers.
Two
thousand
sign-on
bonus
I'll
just
go
through
the
first
one,
that's
paid
for
installments
of
five
hundred
dollars
over
six
months.
H
We
do
not
give
them
all
the
money
upfront
when
they
come
through
the
door,
because
they'll
have
to
work
and
stay
with
the
department
in
order
to
get
that
full
amount.
Then
you
see
the
post
certification
prior
military
their
what
they
have
to
do
in
order
to
retire
from
the
department
years
of
service,
as
well
as
the
percentage
of
salary
that
they
can
obtain
and
then
through
and
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
have
and
I
say
a
year
after
years,
the
health
and
wellness
center.
H
I
have
a
breakdown
here
of
the
base
salary
of
a
police
officer
coming
through
the
door
with
a
high-school
education
and
then
eight
percent
from
the
pension
taken
from
that
FICA
Medicare,
federal
tax
state
tax
and
then
the
insurance
that's
taken
per
year
from
the
officer
and
there's
a
33
percent
difference
in
the
amount
of
money
that
he
gets
coming
through
the
door
that
he
actually
takes
home.
Next,
please
Jeremy.
H
These
are
the
vehicles
that
we
have
in
the
department
at
this
time.
The
criteria
city
criteria
for
replacement
of
cars
are
seven
years
or
a
hundred
thousand
miles
for
the
pursuits
sedans,
and
then
your
pursuit
vehicles,
which
are
the
SUV's,
the
unmarked
cars,
the
marked
unmarked
police
vehicles
and
then
the
motors
and,
as
you
can
see,
with
a
pursuit
vehicles,
the
vehicles
that
we
have
today,
we
have
a
hundred
and
thirteen
vehicles
that
meet
the
criteria
of
return
in.
We
have
eleven
SUVs
that
meet
the
criteria
of
both
criteria
for
turn.
H
H
In
this
year's
budget
I'm
asking
that
we
replace
20
vehicles.
The
vehicles
probably
would
be
on
the
lease
basis,
which
is
what
we're
doing
today,
rather
than
an
outright
purchase.
Five
of
the
pursuit
Tahoe's
that
meet
that
criteria
to
be
replaced,
unmarked
vehicles
and
we've
put
impalas
I,
don't
think
they
make
the
impalas
anymore
replacing
four.
Those
are
purchasing
for
those
and
a
full-size
four-wheel
drive
SUV
for
the
downtown
area.
H
We
now
have
a
permanent
officer
that
we
have
in
the
downtown
area
that
he
works,
that
area
down
there
every
day
and
with
the
river
and
the
trails
back
down,
and
we
feel
like
that.
A
SUV
with
four-wheel
drive
abilities
is
probably
what
we
need
there
in
that
area.
We're
currently
covering
that
with
three
vehicles
and
those
three
vehicles,
two
of
them
are
scooters.
H
One
of
them
is
what
we
call
a
tiger
truck,
which
is
a
small
pickup
truck
and
because
to
maintain
those
are
astronomical
and
the
cost
who
replace
those
are
astronomical
and
in
order
to
replace
one
scooter
with
a
current
scooter
that
we've
looked
at
is
$42,000.
So
we
come
out
better
to
replace
that
with
a
pickup
truck
standard,
pickup
truck
four-wheel
drive,
then
we
do
to
look
for
another
scooter
in
that
area,
I'm
asking
for
one
replacement
harley-davidson.
H
I'm
also
asking-
and
this
is
the
third
year
that
I've
asked
for
this-
that
the
city
fund,
the
silver
plan
for
all
smaller
officers
insurance
plan.
Currently,
the
officer
pays
$36
Commissar,
seventy
three
dollars
and
three
cents
bi-weekly
for
that
insurance.
The
insurances
covers
the
officer.
This
is
what
the
officer
himself
would
have
to
pay.
If
the
officer
wanted
the
gold
plan
or
if
he
wanted
a
family
plan
with
dental
and
vision
that
would
be
extra,
he
would
have
to
pay
for
that.
H
We
have
a
total
of
the
488,
which
would
not
be
that
many
officers
now
because
of
shortage
that
would
have
to
be
paid
for
that.
We
have
maintained
the
coded
response.
I
think
that
we
should
pay
for
the
officers
for
their
insurance
at
a
time
when
we're
requiring
them
to
do
a
whole
lot
more
on
the
street
and
I
am
happy
to
say
that
we
kept
officers
on
the
street
24/7,
including
the
staff
of
this
department
for
the
time
frame
of
Tobit
and
the
individuals
worked
other
than
off
days
every
day.
H
Next,
please
I'm
also
asking
that
we
bring
out
our
pay
reform.
They
step
form
down
to
three
years.
Currently
it
starts
at
5,
5,
7,
10,
15,
20,
25
and
30
for
the
$3500
increase.
This
covers
the
area
that
we
currently
lose
officers
to
other
departments
and
I
think
that
that
3,500,
rather
than
a
thousand,
would
help
retain
these
officers.
H
This
would
affect
currently
would
affect
20
officers,
and
it
would
be
approximately
$50,000
to
bring
it
from
7
down
to
5,
and
then
we
would
have
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry
from
5
down
to
3,
and
then
we
would
have
it
from
3,
5
7
and
on
up
based
on
the
$3500
rather
than
the
$1000.
They
currently
get
a
$1000
pay
reform
step
at
the
three-year
range.
H
Next,
please
proposed
pension
contribution
I'm,
asking
that
the
officers
contribution
to
the
pension
be
reduced
from
8
percent
to
4
percent
effected
for
all
those
higher
cent,
July
1
2012,
and
it
would
affect
258
officers
next,
please
Jeremy,
clothing,
allowance
for
investigators
and
the
people
that
are
not
in
uniform.
For
many
years
now
we
have
paid
$300
twice
a
year
to
these
officers
for
clothing
other
than
uniforms
that
the
city
asked
them
to
wear.
We
asked
them
to
wear
doing
the
performance
of
their
duty.
H
We
currently
have
150
sorry,
we
have
a
hundred
and
fifteen
officers
that
receive
the
two
three
hundred
dollar
payments
per
year
and
that
would
go
then
from
three
hundred
to
five
hundred
to
three
hundred
is
already
in
the
budget.
It
would
now
go
to
five
hundred
if
this
is
agreed
upon
for
a
total
increase
of
forty
six
thousand
dollars
next
one
Jeremy,
please,
we
have
still
have
problems
in
the
building.
We
have
got
problems
with
maintenance.
We
got
problems
with
carpet
and
upgrades
in
the
building.
H
We've
got
a
bad
hole
in
one
of
the
areas
outside
of
just
above
the
lobby
area.
That's
how
to
hold
the
leak
in
that
hole
now
for
a
couple
years
and
that
area
has
been
looked
at,
but
it
has
never
been
properly
addressed
and
when
we
have
bad
weather
we
have
leaks
in
there
from
that
Jeremy.
Next,
please
are
any
questions.
A
M
H
I
did
not
know
if
she
was
addressing
me.
Yes
ma'am,
we
did,
you
did
give
us
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Last
year
we
have,
we
have
had
the
inside
of
this
building
totally
painted.
We
have
replaced
some
of
the
carpet,
not
all
of
the
carpet
and
some
of
the
areas,
for
instance
in
the
in
the
hub,
the
top
of
the
foyer
that
we
have
here
in
the
department.
The
whole
is
still
there
and
it
still
leaks
when
it
rains.
D
H
O
D
H
One
vehicle
accident
on
Victory
Drive
very
unfortunate.
The
officer
got
a
little
too
close
to
another
vehicle
and
attempted
to
do
an
evasive
maneuver
hit
a
curb
and
the
motorcycle
flipped
over
two
or
three
times
while
out
on
the
traffic
detail.
Fortunately,
the
officer
was
skinned
up
a
little
bit
but
no
bad
injuries
and
he
was
back
to
work
within
three
days.
Okay,
thank.
N
K
L
A
H
What
I'm
talking
about
yes,
ma'am
I,
do,
and
we
did
entertain
that-
and
we
did
look
at
that.
Probably
a
year
ago,
maybe
could
have
been
two
years
ago
where
we
got
some
T&E.
Some
test
evaluation
type
vest
that
we
brought
in,
and
it's
a
duty
carry
type
of
this
which
took
the
weight
from
around
the
waist
and
then
moved
it
farther
up
on
the
body
around
the
chest.
H
And
then
we
did
the
evaluations
that
came
back
from
the
officers
most
of
the
officers
that
ward
on
a
regular
basis
told
us,
and
it
was
something
that
we
kind
of
thought
of
up
front,
but
we
once
we
evaluated
through
them.
We
then
brought
the
duty
carry
equipment
from
the
waist
up
to
the
chest
and
when
the
chest,
when
officers
had
to
put
hands
on
individuals
that
would
resist
a
risk
or
basically
not
one
to
apply
with
with
whatever
it
was
that
the
officers
were
requesting
them
to
do
all
of
the
duty.
H
Carry
weapons
is
basically
right
in
front
of
the
the
suspect
or
the
defendant,
and
it
was
more.
It
allowed
the
suspect
to
get
hands
on
the
weapons
more
easily
than
it
did
on
the
bottom
or
around
the
belt.
Now
we
have
in
the
past,
we
have
bought
some
items,
some
I
guess
some
duty
carry
straps
that
you
could
not
see.
That
was.
H
We
went
under
the
shirt
that
went
around
and
came
down
to
the
belt
and
was
secured
at
the
belt
level
to
take
some
of
the
take
some
of
the
weight
off
of
the
the
waist
of
the
officers.
We
have
done
that
in
the
past,
but
we
have
looked
at
that
and,
if
there's
anything
else
out
there
we'll
be
glad
to
look
at
that.
Also.
A
H
The
way
that
we
do
our
in
service
training,
because
we
put
a
lot
of
faith
in
a
lot
of
respect
with
our
retirees
and
we
offer
them
classes
in
order
to
keep
them
certified
with
post
we're
working
on
a
system
down
to
where
we
can.
Let
them
do
that
from
home.
We're
also
working
on
a
thing
to
wear
detectives
and
patrol
officers
can
do
it
from
their
office
area
rather
than
a
classroom
area.
H
We're
looking
at
extra
computers,
which
we've
already
identified
the
sword,
we're
looking
at
software
two
or
three
different
types
of
software.
That
will
better
allow
us
to
do
that
and,
as
you
know,
from
last
year,
we
had
the
isaw
software,
which
is
the
electronic
statement
of
personal
history
that
we
started
using.
H
Polygraphs
on
and
now
we
can
do
it
in
front
of
a
computer
screen
and
it's
an
eye
detect
system
that
detects
deception
with
the
eyes
rather
than
having
to
hook
them
up
to
a
machine,
and
we
have
done
a
test
and
evaluation.
We
already
have
the
system
it's
in
place
where
we're
doing
it.
Now
we
have
several
people
that
are
certified
to
administer
this.
We
can
hook
them
up
in
a
in
a
room,
even
say
an
office
area
somewhere
it
takes
about
half
the
time.
H
We
have
run
individuals
with
the
eye,
detect
and
then
turned
around
with
the
polygraph
and
run
the
same
individual,
and
it's
virtually
the
same.
So
that
will
keep
us
and
it'll
keep
us
away
from
the
people
that
we're
running
and
it's
working
really
well,
and
that
came
about
with
us
looking
at
better
ways
to
do
things
as
a
result
of
the
covert
19.
What.
L
Yes,
madam
chair,
one
of
the
question,
the
chief
off
the
top
of
your
head,
do
you
know
the
difference
of
variants
of
the
cars
that
and
when
they
put
all
of
these
software
and
equipment
in
the
trunk
versus
the
up
front,
not
in
a
we
have
kind
of
like
laptops,
I
guess
in
the
console
area?
If
everything
was
in
the
with
the
with
the
data
in
the
I
guess
say,
the
control
system
in
the
trunk
of
the
car
is
is
a
very
big
difference.
There.
H
Well,
you
know
dodges
this
within
the
past
three
to
three
to
four
years.
They
came
out
with
a
system
that
was
in
the
dash
rather
than
a
a
computer
that
fits
on
a
on
a
tree
that
mounts
to
the
floor
of
the
car
that
comes
up
within
distance
of
the
officer,
but
on
the
software
system
that
we
use,
instead
of
it
being
upright
the
software
when
it's
on
was
sideways
in
the
car.
H
So
we
could
not
use
that,
but
we
did
look
at
that
and
we
even
had
the
folks
from
the
factory
to
come
here
and
give
us
a
presentation
and
we
had
a
talk
with
them
and
we
looked
at
it
very
closely
and
we
do
have
equipment
a
lot
of
equipment
in
the
trunk.
There's
a
tray
in
the
trunk,
it's
little
on
the
inside
of
the
car
in
the
console
area,
it's
full.
So
if
we
have
a
whole
lot
more
in
these
cars,
I
don't
know
where
we're
going
for
them.
H
L
A
D
Madam
chair
I
have
one
more
question:
are
you
are
you
looking
into
different
pants?
I
was
talking
to
some
officers
and
there's
very
little
stretch
in
the
pants
that
they
wear
now
and
so
they've
been
ripping
out
and
then
also
they.
They
were
familiar
with
some
pants
that
had
some
wicking
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
you,
if
they
had
discussed
that
with
you
and
if
you
were
looking
into
different
uniforms
that
were
more
stretch
and
had
wicking
material
in.
H
It
well
I
have
had
conversations
with
officers
and,
if
you'll
notice
officers,
when
they're
standing
in
front
of
you,
some
of
the
pants
appear
to
be
just
a
little
darker
than
others
and
you'll
notice,
that
on
the
motor
squad,
you'll
notice
that
in
some
of
the
specialty
units,
we're
in
the
process
now
of
changing
over
to
the
new
pant,
but
because
of
the
cost
of
the
pant
I
cannot
afford
to
do
it
all
at
one
time.
So
therefore
we're
doing
it
as
the
office
as
the
pants
on
the
shelf
or
Gong
as
they
wear
out.
H
They
then
will
go
to
a
new
pant
and
you'll
notice.
The
difference
in
the
pant
by
the
color
of
the
pant.
It's
just
a
shade
darker,
because
we
could
no
longer
get
the
blue
that
we
had
purchased
in
the
past
from
the
factory.
They
could
not
get
that
color
of
blue
material
anymore
and
we
tried
to
keep
the
uniform
as
close
to
what
we
have
is
possible
and
you'll
notice.
H
D
One
question:
the
officers
that
I
was
speaking
with
thought
that
there
could
be
some
cost
savings
with
using
I,
don't
know
if
it's
I
guess
applications
instead
of
painting
the
cars
putting
applications
on
the
cars
to
differentiate
them
between.
You
know
the
police
and
the
sheriff
and
I
believe
that
the
Sheriff's
Department
does
that
right
now
they
put
applications
instead
of
painting
the
cars
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
were
looking
into
that,
as
maybe
a
cost
savings.
Well.
H
A
A
Not
hearing
anything
chief
I
would
say
to
you
on
behalf
not
only
of
the
counselors
but
I
think
of
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
Columbus
in
Muskogee
County,
to
please
give
your
staff
and
the
men
and
women
who
work
in
your
department,
our
sincere
thanks
for
all
they
do.
This
has
been
a
trying
time
for
everyone,
and
particularly
for
that,
those
guys
who
are
and
gals
who
are
on
the
street,
and
so
please
be
sure
to
give
our
utmost
thanks
to
your
department,
Thank.
P
Chair
I
have
a
question
for
you:
I
know
we're
on
a
tight
tight
budget
and
everything
that's
occurring
at
this
time,
but
could
we
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
here
or
in
a
work
section
so
that
we
can
look
and
see
if
anything
can
be
done
on
the
proposed
health
care
benefits
for
our
public
safety?
Can
we
look
at
that?
A
little
bit
later,
cuz
I
know
right
now
we're
tight.
Would
that
be
doing
this
like
through
the
budget
session,
or
would
it
be
daring,
Oh
a
work
section
or
Council?
A
Council
person
I
would
think
that
this
is
something
that
would
take
some
study
by
those
who
know
this
and
what
will
it,
what
impact
will
have
widespread?
Should
we
make
it
so,
let's,
let's
make
that
referral
to
the
city
manager
that
kind
of
conversation
very
shortly,
hopefully
maybe
before
open
enrollment
I,
know
that
mr.
Hughley
is
on
this
call
and
is
listening
to
this
and
he
may
want
to
respond,
but
before
open
enrollment.
If
we
could
take
a
look
at
that,
mr.
huben.
F
A
P
G
E
Q
Yes,
good
morning,
madam
budget
chair
members
of
council
I
had
to
base
my
budget
request
on
the
FY
17
budget,
which
was
the
last
presidential
election
cycle
that
we've
worked
through.
Realizing,
though,
that
this
is
uncharted
territory,
we've
never
voted
with
this
type
of
voting
equipment.
We've
never
voted
in
an
election,
a
complete
election
with
this
type
of
voting
equipment,
and
currently
we
are
sustaining
and
maintaining
probably
three
different
types
of
voting
systems.
First
vote-by-mail.
As
you
know,
the
Secretary
of
State
sent
absentee
ballot
applications
to
all
active,
registered
voters.
Q
Currently
we
have
processed
over
22,000
absentee
ballots,
mailed
to
voters.
We
are
also
preparing
for
Election
Day,
which
is
June
night.
Then
that
means
gearing
up
all
of
our
equipment,
all
of
our
stuff
that
we
have
to
do
do
at
the
precinct
for
June
the
9th,
and
we
started
early
voting
yesterday
at
7
a.m.
full
hours
for
early
voting,
7
a.m.
to
7
p.m.
Monday
through
Friday
and
Saturdays
and
Sundays,
except
for
the
Memorial
Day
holiday.
Q
We
will
be
closed
on
Sunday
and
Monday,
but
maintaining
that
level
of
service
and
those
three
very
distinct
types
of
voting
is
expensive
and
we
are
just
beginning
to
recognize
those
expenses.
Now,
if
you
look
at
my
budget
request,
I
asked
for
money
for
temporary
employees
for
elections
expenses,
realizing
that
these
are
simply
estimates.
Whenever
you
have
a
paper
voting
system
paper
is
expendable
and
whenever
you
use
it,
you
have
to
replace
it.
Q
We
do
have
an
inventory
on
hand
for
for
what
we
have
here
in
the
office
and
for
a
June,
the
ninth,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
replace
it
for
any
runoff
which
will
be
August
the
11th,
and
that
is
into
the
new
budget
year.
So
we're
gonna
be
looking
at
autist,
11
and
then
November
3rd.
If
there
is
a
state
runoff,
it
will
be
in
December,
but
what's
unique
about
this
budget
cycle
2
is
we
probably
will
have
a
runoff,
a
federal
runoff
on
January,
the
5th?
Q
So
again,
it's
all
kind
of
uncharted
territory
for
all
of
us,
as
we
navigate
through
these
waters
with
Kovan
19.
There
are
grants
available
to
our
statewide
grants
available
that
we've
been
able
to
apply
for
for
some
of
the
stuff
that
we've
had
to
do
to
gear
up,
but
again
not
knowing
what
the
future
holds.
I
can't
even
really
begin
to
give
a
total
accurate
estimate.
Q
One
other
thing
that
I
asked
for
in
capital
outlay,
with
a
vehicle
with
the
new
equipment,
our
new
ballot
box
that
holds
the
optical
scanner,
don't
have
a
vehicle
that
can
transport
any
of
those.
So
when
we
were
doing
our
voting,
demonstrations,
I
would
have
to
borrow
my
dad's
truck
or
borrow
a
vehicle
to
take
it
in
and
even
then
it
didn't
fit
so
doesn't
have
to
be
a
new
vehicle.
I
can
use
something
from
someone
else,
but
it
becomes
difficult
to
borrow
things.
Q
Q
Yes,
council
would
then
requested,
because
again,
I
have
to
have
the
size
and
I
have
to
have
the
ability
to
transport
the
equipment.
And
if
you
were
in
the
warehouse
which
I
know
you,
you
saw
how
much
equipment
that
we
have
so
I'll
put
in
for
a
full-size
SUV
again,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
full-size
SUV
and
it
can
be
a
vehicle
that
someone
else
has
turned
in
I
just
need
the
space
and
the
size
to
transport
the
equipment
that
we
have.
Q
P
Madam
chair
I
would
like
to
ask
that
to
the
add
and
delete
list,
but
I
would
like
to
make
a
request
if
this
staff
can
see
if
there
is
a
vehicle
that
she
can
keep
permanently
and
if
not,
then
you
know
have
the
money
available
so
that
she
can
purchase
that
SUV
we've
most
all
of
us
have
walked
through
the
area.
We
do
see
the
magnitude
of
the
equipment.
Even
the
space
has
been
an
issue,
so
I
think
it's
very
much
needed,
especially
with
all
the
upcoming
elections
coming
up
and
in
the
future.
P
A
E
A
D
Q
And
councillor
Crabb,
we've
done
that
quite
often,
and
it
ends
up
that
there
are
competing
needs
all
at
the
same
time,
but
we
are
certainly
willing
to
do
that.
We've
borrowed
from
the
Sheriff's
Department
vehicles
before
we
borrowed
from
the
police
department
vehicles
before
so
we're
accustomed
to
borrowing
it
just
becomes
difficult
when
you
have
the
competing
needs
all
at
the
same
time,
because
they're
gonna
need
their
vehicle.
Sheriff's
Department
needs
their
vehicle,
but
I
agree.
I
mean
a
pull.
Vehicle
is
great
as
long
as
it's
available.
F
Sure,
certainly
that's
I
mean
we'll
look
at
that,
and
certainly
it
could
be
a
multi-purpose
vehicle.
That's
in
the
pool-
and
let's
say
if
the
tax
assessor
needed
it
or
the
tax
commission
or
someone
else.
Certainly
they
could
reserve
the
vehicle.
But
we
would
make
sure
that
there's
that
the
priority
we
would
block
the
dates
during
election
time
that
Nancy
boring
would
possibly
need
the
vehicle,
but
we'll
take
a
look
at
it
and
make
a
recommendation
to
you
right
and
then
maybe
a
situation
where
you
have
a
if
it's
a
different
type
vehicle.
Maybe.
G
A
A
Q
E
Madame
budget
chair,
we
are
certainly
ahead
of
schedule
here,
but
thankfully
we
have
our
next
attendee
our
next
Department,
actually
elected
official.
A
part
of
the
meeting
miss
Danielle
Forte
with
our
the
clerk
of
Superior
Court,
is
leading.
The
handout
was
provided
by
the
clerk's
office.
I
did
send
that
out
to
Council
and
city
administration
yesterday,
not
exactly
I,
don't
have
a
presentation,
so
I'm
not
exactly
sure
if
there
was
anything
that
the
clerk
wanted
to
put
up,
but
the
handout
was
provided
to
Council
on
yesterday
so
I'm
madam
clerk.
R
R
Yes,
okay,
all
right
all
right,
I
I
did
provide
handouts,
and
so
I
hope
that
everyone
has
two
handouts
and
I'm
just
going
to
jump
right
in
I
submitted
the
budget
proposal
for
my
office,
of
course
pre
cove
at
19,
and
during
that
process
there
were
some
things
that
is
my
understanding.
They're
in
the
mayor's
recommended
budget,
the
budget
neutral.
R
Start
off
by
thanking
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
present
my
presentation
this
morning.
One
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
say
also
upfront
is
that
this
position
in
the
finance
department
can
be
funded
either
through
olaf's
or
the
general
fund.
So
I
did
want
to
make
that
clear
as
well,
so
I
will
direct
you
to
the
first
handout
which
should
be
entitled
timeline
and
on
that
I
want
to
just
kind
of
give
you
kind
of
an
historical
perspective
of
the
office.
R
R
We
have
four
or
more
employees,
but
for
whatever
reason,
prior
to
my
tenure,
historically,
we've
had
two
people
and
our
finance
the
part,
and
that
is
going
to
be
important
because
we
need
at
a
minimum
at
least
one
other
person
in
that
division
in
order
to
implement
the
internal
controls
needed
in
order
to
bring
our
finance
department
up
to
up
to
par.
So
if
you
look
at
the
timeline
on
November
14th
of
2018
pursuant
to
the
special
election,
the
citizens
graciously
and
I'm
very
appreciative
elected
me.
R
As
clerk
of
Superior
Court
less
than
two
weeks,
I
requested
an
internal
transitional
audit
and
that
would
have
been
November
26
again
2018
sometime
thereafter,
I
met
with
the
city
auditor
and
by
December
4th
again
2018
John
Redmond.
The
city
auditor
requested
the
internal
audit
for
this
office,
and
it
was
subsequently
approved
now,
for
whatever
reason
it
wasn't
until
September
of
2019
the
following
year
that
the
audit
began.
R
We
are
currently
in
the
process
of
the
internal
transitional
audit,
which
is
ongoing,
and
but
we
have
received
some
preliminary
findings
and
we've
received
some
very
strong
recommendations,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
prioritize
and
correct
some
of
the
information
or
the
processes
that
we
have
in
the
office
number
one.
The
preliminary
finding
is
that
we
hire
a
third
person
for
the
finance
department
in
order
to
ensure
that
there
are
a
separation
of
duties
which
helps
facilitates
the
internal
controls.
R
R
So
again,
there
were
two
people,
the
former
finance
director
retired.
The
person
that
worked
with
him
was
moved
to
another
division
and
I
was
very
lucky
that
on
February
24th
of
this
year,
I
was
able
to
hire
CPA
a
certified
public
accountant,
Donna
McGinnis,
as
my
new
assistant
chief
deputy
clerk
and
finance
director,
and
she
is
overseeing
the
reconstruction
of
the
finance
department.
We
also
brought
in
very
talented
honor
students
from
CSU
a
recent
graduate
Garret
Katherine,
and
he
came
in
April
of
this
year
and
we
brought
him
in
at
our
entry-level
positions.
R
Most
of
my
entry-level
positions
are
G,
12
step
a
so
he
was
brought
in.
So
we
we
still
have
the
two
people,
because
that
was
the
structure
of
the
office,
but
we
have
two
new
people
and
we've
been
kind
of
rocking
and
rolling
a
bit
I'm
very
proud
of
the
work
that
the
two
have
done.
We've
been
grappling
or
trying
to
get
Philly
we're
trying
to
fill
the
void
for
the
third
person,
our
primary
resource,
for
that
is
assistant
chief
deputy
clerk,
Linda
dar
now
Linda
dar
already
has
more
than
she
can
chew.
R
As
far
as
her
duty
so
but
she's
been
trying
to
fill
the
void
for
that
third
person
as
a
separation
of
duties,
however,
again
I
can't
emphasize
enough
that
she
has
a
lot
on
her
plate,
and
so,
if
we
can't
get
her,
then
we'll
try
to
find-
and
maybe
a
supervisor
and
some
of
the
other
divisions.
But
we
are
struggling
to
get
that
third
person
in
hopes
that
the
decision
is
made
by
you
see
the
city
councilors
to
grant
this
one
position.
R
I
won't
belabor
that
too
much
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
handout
that
one
is
revenue
sent
to
the
Columbus
consolidated
government,
and
if
you
can
look
at
that,
you
can
see
2017.
We
were
at
2.1
million
dollars
in
revenue
sent
to
the
city
2018.
Eighty
two
point:
six
million
2019
2.9
million,
and
right
now,
as
of
April
2020,
we're
at
about
eight
hundred
and
seventy
seven
thousand
dollars
go
to
the
next
handout.
Please.
So
what
I
had
this?
One
is
entitled.
R
Projections
for
2020
and
with
that
I
had
the
CPA
do
a
projection
for
2020,
based
on
what
we
have
experienced
with
kovat
19,
the
lack
of
traffic
in
the
office,
and
so
she
has
projected
that
the
revenues
should
be
right
at
and
again,
this
is
a
projection
at
2.7
million
dollars,
so
it
wouldn't
be
as
high
as
2019,
but
it
would
be
more
than
2018
so
somewhere
in
the
middle
and
one
of
the
reasons
for
the
projection.
Of
course,
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
traffic.
The
office
had
to
be
closed.
R
We
have
now
created
a
much
better
revenue
stream
to
the
city,
that's
currently
being
executed
with
our
criminal
seizure,
money
and
I.
Think
that
also
impacts
and
had
an
impact
on
the
projection,
and
that's
that's
brought
the
money
up.
That
is
one
way
for
us
to
ensure
that
every
penny
that
comes
into
the
office
is
processed
properly
and
also
documented
properly.
R
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
went
forward
to
and
if
I
can
say
one
more
thing
as
far
as
to
Olas,
also
given
a
historical
perspective
before
with
old
laws
when
it
was
first
implemented.
For
whatever
reasons
before
my
tenure,
there
were
positions
allotted
to
various
departments,
I
know
the
DA's
office
got
two
positions.
The
municipal
clerk's
office
got
two
positions
and
recorders
clerk's
office
got
two
positions
for
whatever
reason
this
office
got
one
employee.
R
So
just
to
kind
of
let
you
know,
for
whatever
reason
we
only
got
one
position
and
I
think
it
would
have
been
nice
to
get
two,
but
for
whatever
week
that
was
before
my
tenure,
so
I
did
want
to
point
that
out
as
well,
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
handout
so
as
justification
for
the
additional
financial
division
wanted
to
kind
of
point
out,
look
to
the
bottom
of
that
handout.
The
position
is
again
an
entry-level
position,
G
twelve-step
a
and
that
total
package
in
salary,
including
salary
plus
benefits,
is
40
3084
dollars.
R
We
verified
with
the
finance
director
Angelica
Alexander
on
May
12th,
that,
regardless
of
whatever
funding
sources,
use,
whether
it's
old
loss
or
the
general
fund,
the
impact
would
be
a
point-
zero,
eight
percent,
regardless
of
which
funding
source
is
used
and
I'm
going
to
trying
to
click.
In
with
my
comments
that
I
did
want
to
assure
each
and
every
one
of
the
council
members
that
the
finance
division
in
this
office
is
a
top
priority.
R
Our
mission
and
goal
for
the
finance
division
is
to
protect
the
integrity
of
public
funds
and
insurance
coming
into
our
office
are
properly
accounted
for,
so
I
did
want
to
let
you
know
that
that
is
the
goal
and
the
objective
of
our
office
I.
Also
I,
don't
know
where
I
am
with
time,
but
I
did
have
Donna
McGinnis
our
new
finance
director
an
office
CPA.
She
has
a
plan
that
she
I
was
gonna.
Let
her
as
briefly
discussed
with
you
for
how
to
feel
the
position.
If
granted
I
don't
know
are
you
here?
E
Donna
is
on
the
line
she
is
currently
muted
at
this
time,
but
one
point
of
correction
I'd
like
to
make
is
the
the
point:
zero
eight
was
the
use
of
fund
balance
reserves.
If
counsel
decided
to
add
the
position
on
the
app
delete
this.
So
it
was
point
zero,
eight
reserve
days
that
would
be
utilized
to
add
that
position.
R
R
A
A
P
P
G
E
G
Take
it
out
of
there
you're
taking
it
out
of
somebody
else's
budget
within
the
government.
You
gotta
take
it
out
of
fund
balance,
which
is
what
the
finance
director
is
telling
us.
The
I
know
that
we
talked
about
a
need
and
we've
heard
some
other
from
the
door
on
this
I
know.
The
audit
is
still
going
on
and
and
I
know
that
the
executive
administration
of
Mayor
have
already
heard
a
presentation
and
I
think
they're
keen
on
the
matter.
K
G
An
opportunity
to
continue
to
look
at
this
and
come
up
with
the
right
model
at
the
appropriate
time
personally,
I'd
like
to
get
a
better
snapshot
of.
What's
going
on,
madam
clerk,
I'd
really
like
to
I,
really
like
to
talk
to
you
about
the
Board
of
Equalization
I
know
you
said
that
you
weren't
going
to
talk
about
that,
but
I
think
we
had
some
dialogue
early
on
initially
in
the
budget
process.
I
know
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor
and
executive
administration
talked
about
where
we're
at
concerns.
G
R
G
D
G
G
R
So
because
I
would
like
to
quote
the
exact
numbers
and
I'm
trying
to
look
around
and
see
if
I
have
a
copy,
and
it
might
be
what
they're
working
from
home
I
might
have
left
there.
But
we
we
raised
it
to
$50,
because
all
the
comparable
counties
and
municipalities,
of
course,
Atlanta
had
$100
a
day,
but
we
had
I
want
to
say:
Macon
might
have
been,
maybe
$75.
Yes,
there
may
be
50.
G
R
It
would
be
in
July
after
the
increase
and
let
me
and
I'm
sorry
do
you
know
when
the
increase
in
the
pay
for
the
Board
of
Equalization
members
will
kick
in.
No,
it
was
budget
neutral,
so
we
didn't
at
first
we
were
trying
to
calculate
the
numbers
for
that
to
increase
to
$50.
Do
you
know
when
that
would
take
place
been
to
July
yeah,
so
I'm
getting
the
thumbs
up,
that
it
is
July
that
that
increase
would
take
place?
O
G
R
M
G
R
R
Let
me
get
you
I
can
get
the
supervisor
and
she's
on
the
phone.
Just
this,
let
me
Sharon
Sharon
Sharon,
okay,
you're,
on
your
own
blast,
your
counselor
Glen
Davis,
wants
to
know
the
average
hours
that
the
board
members
work.
On
average
I
know:
we've
increased
the
page
to
$50,
so
how
much
I
mean
I?
Guess
it's
an
eight
hour
a
day
and
how
many
days
what's
the
average
that
you
can
think
of
just
off
the
top
of
your
head?
Okay,.
O
R
O
R
O
G
R
You
know
at
least
give
us
50
and
so
I
didn't
push
it
anymore,
because
the
requests
in
the
budget,
because
we'd
never
know
when
we'll
have
another
situation
that
we
had
a
few
years
back
or
if
it's
low
on
the
low
end,
and
so
we
were
kind
of
just
shooting
in
the
dark.
So
you
know,
of
course,
I
think
it
would
have
been
fair
for
at
least
75.
We
knew
that
doing
the
hundred
dollars
a
day
like
the
Atlanta
metro
areas
would
be
a
problem,
but
for
right
now
they
were
just
like
look.
R
G
Well,
I,
guess
we
can,
unless
my
colleagues
won't
calm,
I
guess
we
could
kind
of
keep
an
eye
on
that.
I
am
concerned
about
the
workload
there
I'm
glad
to
see
that
it's
been
increased,
but
you
know
some
people.
We
ask
people
to
serve
on
the
board
equalization
and
some
people
have
jobs
where
they
can
still
make
it
work.
Others
lose
out
on
the
whole
day.
You
know
in
and
actually
pocket
less
than
they
would
if
they
were,
they
were
working
their
regular,
regular
job.
So
I
am
concerned
about
that,
but.
R
R
We
can
definitely
look
at
that
because
I'm
with
you,
they
deserve
a
lot
more
than
50,
but
50
was
comparable,
but
that
was
on
the
low
end.
$25
was
just
I
mean
it
was
almost
tenth
amount
to
an
insult.
So
so
we
did
at
least
increase
that
and
move
me
again
when
we
crunched
the
numbers.
We
saw
that
that
was
budget
neutral.
L
A
Typically,
that's
what
it
has
to
be
is
and
the
reason
that
we
increase
those
core
positions
was
because
we
had
increased
the
law
enforcement,
the
police
department
by
100
positions,
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
the
marshal's
office,
and
we
thought
that
there
will
be
additional
work
on
the
in
the
courts
and
that's
why
the
public
courts
have
position
so
we'll
need
to
take
a
look
to
see.
Does
this
fit
that
definition,
and
we
can
do
that
at
our
list?
A
L
Yeah,
when
going
through
the
information
that
I
received,
it
seems
like
it
would
fit.
You
know
laws
because
it
will
be
ongoing.
Man
I
think
the
workload
is
increasing
and
then
the
checks
and
balances,
as
far
as
it
being
a
recommendation
from
the
the
audit
for
checks
and
balances,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
moving
monies.
The
right
way
so
I'm
on
board
I
was
trying
to
get
a
clear
understanding.
Thank
you.
A
R
And
I
did
want
to
add
that
the
emphasis
would
be
the
monies
that's
brought
in
from
law
enforcement.
How
that
money
is
processed
and
again
we
we,
the
preliminary
findings,
really
put
a
spotlight
on
how
we
will
process
and
they
promote
seizure
money
and
again,
we've
tightened
up
and
we've
created
a
revenue
stream
to
the
city,
and
that's
very
important
I
mean
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
overview.
We
might
have
an
officer
come
in
with
a
duffel
bag
of
cash
that
needs
to.
A
E
Fortunately,
I
believe
the
solicitor's
office
is
having
some
technical
difficulty
with
joining
the
meeting.
So
there's
no
representative
on
the
line
right
now
from
the
Solicitor
General's
office.
So
we
can
come
back
circle
back
to
that,
because
the
next
Department
up
after
the
solicitor's
office
is
the
Clerk
of
counsel
hang
on
just
a
second.
S
S
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
I'm
requesting
it
is
because
of
our
significant
significant
caseload
increase
and,
as
you
can
see,
in
2019,
we
had
over
10,000
cases
and
the
year
before
we
had
80
944
in
2018,
and
that's
of
course,
because
of
the
caseload.
Our
our
work
case
load
is
increased,
so
is
our
workload,
so,
okay,
the
next
slide,
is
I
want
to
start
with.
You
know,
mr.
an
area
I
think
y'all
know
David
he's
my
chief
assistant
he's
got
over
30
years
experience
and
he's
got
supervisory
responsibilities.
S
They've
increased
because
of
the
number
of
employees
over
the
last
10
years,
caseloads
increased
and
now
you
know
we're
had
we
have
a
lot
of
lot
more
complicated
cases
with
our
vehicular
homicide
cases,
they've
grown
more
complex
David
has
designed
and
law
enforcement
training
on
our
case
law
update,
and
he
keeps
you
know
up-to-date
on
new
case
law,
and
he
goes
once
a
week
to
the
in-service
training
and
and
it's
very
time-consuming.
It
lasts
two
hours
and
he's
been
very,
very
important
with
his
his
know.
S
Our
case
management
we've
got
a
new
case
management
system
with
which
is
tracker
designed
for
prosecutors,
and
we've
all
had
to
learn
that
our
victim
witness
office
was
already
doing
tracker,
but
our
offices
own
tracker,
and
fortunately
you
know
david-
was
a
big
part
of
that
training
for
the
rest
of
the
employees
and
that
allowed
us
to
work
from
home
during
this
pandemic.
But
he's
just
been
a
you
know,
a
great
support
for
me
and
yeah
he's
really
overloaded
with
his
work
schedule.
S
The
next
slide
is
mr.
Albright.
Mr.
Albright
has
been
an
attorney
over
25
years,
he's
been
in
private
practice
and
worked
in
the
DA's
office
and
he's
been
here.
Gosh
I
couldn't
tell
you
maybe
18
years,
but
he
is
going
to
be
taking
on
a
lot
of
the
responsibilities
that
David
has
to
try
to
help
him
with.
S
He
does
train
new
attorneys
and
also
he
will
help
with
the
police
training
and
because
of
his
you
know,
training
with
the
district
attorney
in
handling
conflict
cases
before
he's
going
to
be
handling
conflict
cases,
and
he
also
does
a
lot
of
the
attorney
training
for
us
and
these
he's
kind
of
long
overdue.
For
you
know
any
kind
of
raise
David
and
Edie.
S
S
The
next
slide
is,
if
you
yep
it's
Jan,
Bardhaman
and
I,
think
y'all
all
know.
Jan
she's
been
with
the
city
for
over
36
years
and
she
kind
of
knows
the
ins
and
outs
of
almost
every
office,
but
she's
been
our
court
coordinator,
but
she's
also
taking
on
a
lot
more
duties
as
she,
as
in
like
the
human
resource
functions.
They've
really
increased
for
her
recently
and
she
also
deals
with
finance
and
she's
has
a
lot
of
budget
duties.
S
S
E
Yes,
ma'am
one
thing:
I'd
like
to
comment
I
like
to
make
to
counsel
concerning
to
pay
for
the
solicitor:
solicitors,
the
Solicitor
General's
office,
the
pay-for,
the
Solicitor
General,
is
contingent
upon
the
pain
for
the
District
Attorney.
Currently,
the
solicitor
and
I'm
just
giving
counsel
information.
The
Solicitor
General
makes
85%
of
the
district
attorneys
salary,
so
the
chief
assistant
solicitor,
which
is
mr.
canary
he
makes
75%
of
the
solicitors,
salary
and
any
senior
Solicitor
within
the
office,
makes
65%
of
the
solicitors
salary.
E
So,
if
counsel
were
to
consider
providing
any
additional
monies,
it
would
be
in
the
form
of
a
supplement,
as
opposed
to
a
raise
in
pay,
because
the
pay
is
fixed
according
to
state
law
based
on
those
percentages.
It's
one
of
those
pays
that's
tied
to
the
pay
of
another
person,
so
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
if
we
would
have
to
take
into
consideration
any
additional
supplements
for
all
of
these
seniors
solicitors
in
the
solicitor's
office
in,
in
addition
to
mr.
Albright,
but
these
additions
for
the
chief
assistant
solicitor,
mr.
Ranieri,
and
for
mr.
A
S
Think
I
do
have
several
other
senior
assistants,
but
I've
selected
mr.
Albright
and,
of
course
David
because
of
their
longevity
in
the
office,
and
there
they've
been
here
longer
and
yeah
I
would
love
to
let
everybody
have
a
supplement,
pay,
but
right
now,
I
think
to
start
with
mister.
You
know
with
David
and
Edie
would
be
a
good
start
to
you
know
I'm
trying
to
give
especially
mr.
Albright.
You
know
an
incentive
to
continue
to
want
to
work
here.
S
J
E
A
B
Davis
your
own,
thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair
I
did
first
want
to
thank
the
budget
review
committee
for
allowing
me
to
speak
before
you
on
today.
I
understand
the
economic
circumstances
that
the
city
is
facing
at
this
time
and
would
not
have
been
moving
forward
with
this
request.
If
a
considerable
amount
of
time
and
research
had
already
been
started
months
before,
knowing
that
this
pandemic
would
hit
and
would
cause
such
a
financial
impact.
B
However,
this
train
has
left
the
station
and
now
I
feel
the
need
to
see
it
through
before
I
was
appointed
as
the
clerk
of
Council
in
January
of
2019
review
of
the
clerk's
office
had
been
conducted,
and
one
of
the
recommendations
was
for
the
clerk's
office
to
reform
the
current
operations
by
seeking
technology
to
improve
the
productivity
and
I
have
completely
been
dedicated
to
this
cause,
which
leads
me
to
this
board
management.
Software.
B
Jeremy,
thank
you.
One
of
the
most
cumbersome
tasks
performed
by
the
clerk
of
counsel's
office
is
managing
the
city
boards,
Commission's
and
authorities.
The
current
software
is
inadequate
with
respect
to
the
number
of
entries
that
must
be
made
in
the
need
to
update
multiple
multiple
locations.
The
clerk's
office
has
been
on
a
mission
to
identify
technology
to
improve
the
productivity
of
the
office
Jeremy.
Next
there
are
total
forty-four
boards
with
237
members.
Each
board
is
tailored
differently.
Some
have
specialized
requirements
for
members,
others
allow
multiple
board
participation.
B
Some
allow
unlimited
terms
of
office.
Some
boys
have
resonate
residency
requirements
while
others
do
not.
There
are
board
seats
that
are
slated
for
bears
organizations
and
agencies
next
slide
annually.
The
clerk's
office
presents
the
human
resources
department
with
a
report
of
the
ethnic
makeup
of
the
237
board
members,
and
this
process
is
done
manually.
A
staff
member
goes
through
each
and
every
board
and
counts
this
information
up.
In
order
to
prepare
this
report,
new
software
would
have
the
capability
to
generate
various
reports,
including
this
one.
B
B
Contacting
board
members
that
are
eligible
to
serve
another
term
to
determine
interest
and
continuing
to
serve.
Currently,
this
is
done
by
staff.
An
email
is
sent
to
the
members
to
ask
them
if
they
are
interested
in
serving
another
term
of
office.
If
no
response
is
received
via
email
staff
has
to
go
in
next
and
actually
place
phone
calls
to
these
individuals
to
check
on
their
status
and
their
interests.
B
One
of
the
features
for
the
new
software
would
be
I'm.
Sorry
Jeremy.
If
you
go
back
for
me,
one
of
the
features
will
be
that
the
new
software
will
send
out
these
notifications
to
the
members
and
we
can
decide
whether
that
would
be
automatically
or
if
we
want
it
to
individually.
Just
send
those
notices
out,
basically
with
the
click
of
a
button.
B
There's
a
brief
description
of
the
board
duties
and
responsibilities
on
the
city's
website,
and
what
we
would
like
to
see
done
is
that
the
new
software
would
allow
for
the
ability
to
upload
the
legislation
that
created
or
establish
the
board
to
give
a
full
view
of
the
membership
and
the
duties
of
responsibilities,
and
that
would
be
provided
in
its
entirety.
And
so,
if
a
citizen
was
interested
in
that
particular
board,
they
could
see
all
of
the
aspects
that
are
involved
with
that
particular
board.
B
So
my
recommendation
is
to
include
funding
for
board
management
software.
The
proposed
costs
is
$12,000
for
software
2700
for
one-time
startup
costs
for
total,
proposed
costs
of
14700
next
slide
and,
as
I
stated
previously,
I
like
to
end
with
a
quote.
What
technology
does
is
to
create
opportunities
to
accomplish
a
task
using
a
prospective
approach
while
being
performed
today,
and
that
was
something
I.
N
N
You
and
your
staff
need
in
order
to
do
to
keep
us
up
and
informed
of
what's
going
on
and
so
I
just
again,
I
like
to
say
to
you,
Sandra
clicker,
council,
the
deputy
clerk
of
Council
and
every
member
of
your
office
for
for
the
way
you
have
assisted
each
member
of
council
here,
and
so
yes
I'm,
not
on
budget
chair
I
like
to
have
this
at
it.
On
this
one
to
address.
G
B
B
G
And
I
got
one
more
question:
I
know
look,
this
is
a
this
is
a
year
that
you
know
everybody
uses
that
word
unprecedented.
We
look.
A
lot
of
people
are
losing
their
jobs.
A
lot
of
people
are
getting
reductions
in
salaries,
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty
on
the
horizon.
So
you
know
the
same
is
happening
with
our
our
government.
So
far,
I
think
everybody's
been
able
to
keep
their
jobs.
There's
been
some
furloughs,
but
I
hope
that
you
know
we
talk
about
getting
the
bigger
picture
later.
G
I
hope
that
the
executive
management
doesn't
have
to
come
back
and
make
further
decisions
as
it
relates
to
our
budget.
But
I
want
to
ask
this
question
to
you
because
it
relates
to
us
as
council,
members
were
no
different
than
than
anybody
else
in
this
situation,
but
I
know
ona
occasions,
I'm,
not
sure
how
it's
done
or
how
its
structured
it's
at
the
state
level,
but
council
members
based
on
their
time
or
so
forth
here
and
there
get
salary,
increases.
B
Increases
I,
guess
that's
what
I'm
to
my
understanding.
The
state
has
not
approved
their
budget
if
they,
if
they
have
I'm,
not
aware
of
it
at
this
point,
but
the
council
members
receiving
raises
increases
or
to
the
state
employees
when
state
employees
receive
an
increase,
then
the
council
members
receive
that
increase
and,
of
course
that
costs,
however,
is
passed
down
for
the
city
government
to
actually
pay.
But
that
is
not
something
that
the
local
government
does
for
City
Council
members.
That
is
something
that
is
done
through
the
state
through
their
state
budget.
B
I
Sure
mr.
Fang
two
types
of
possible
supplements
or
raises
that
counselors
can
receive.
One
of
them
is
a
cola
cost-of-living
assistance.
When
the
state
merit
system
employees
get
a
raise,
then
the
percentage
raise
is
built
in
and
mandated
for
city
councillors.
Also
now,
as
Clerk
Davis
said,
that
might
not
happen
this
year,
the
state
hasn't
even
fixed
their
budget,
but
there's
another
type
of
increased
longevity
increases
that
councillors
also
received
based
on
the
number
of
four-year
terms
they
have
served,
and
those
are
also
mandated
by
the
state
law.
I
As
we
have
told
several
counselors
that
asked
if
they
get
such
a
longevity,
increase,
don't
and
wanted
to
donate
it
back
to
the
city,
they
certainly
could,
but
these
increases
are
Amanda
at
the
state
law
level,
when
state
employees
get
a
cost
of
living
and
when
our
counselors
have
a
four-year
longevity
increase.
Hope
that
helps.
A
You
remember
counselor,
Davis,
that
we
said
we
are
going
to
keep
keep
a
closer
watch
on
this
budget
because
of
all
of
the
uncertainty
and
the
financial
crisis
we're
going
through,
and
we
will
be
reviewing
this
before
January
as
we
typically
wait
until
mid
year.
So
this
is
certainly
something
that
hopefully,
the
state
will
have
adopted
its
budget
fairly
quickly.
D
In
order
to
maintain
these
boards-
and
maybe
we
can
go
through-
and
maybe
some
of
these
boards
can
be
consolidated
into
so
that
we
have
less
boards
previously.
Like
I,
don't
know
if
it's
something
that
the
committee
does
and
then
submits
to
Council
or
if
it's
something
we
could
do
in
a
work
session.
But
I
really
think
that
this
has
become
overwhelming.
In
that,
it's
something
that
we
should
look
at
in
addition
to
the
software.
A
Capsular
crab,
if
I
may
offer
a
suggestion,
there
is
a
committee
that
has
oversight
of
the
clerk's
office.
Perhaps
if
that
committee
would
come
to
Council
with
a
recommendation
that
a
committee
be
formed
to
look
at
this
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
take-home
car
policy.
This
is
not
something
I
think
that
we
can
do
in.
A
You
know
one
meeting,
but
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
studied,
and
so
I
would
recommend
that
the
committee
that
your
own,
that
oversees
the
clerk's
office
talk
about
this
and
bring
a
recommendation
to
Council,
not
necessarily
in
the
budget
arena,
but
to
do
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
to
study
it
and
make
a
recommendation
to
Council
on
numbers
and
duties
and
all
of
those
kinds
of
things
would
that
be
acceptable.
Yes,.
A
A
L
A
E
T
Hodge
good
morning
to
the
budget
review
committee,
this
is
just
an
update
on
the
FY
21
budget
and
the
transportation
projects.
That's
included
in
the
budget
next
slide
Jeremy,
so
the
F
521
budget
for
transportation
is
just
over
7
million.
The
funding
comes
from
the
paving
fund
at
1
million
three
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
eighty,
the
Oh
lost
infrastructure
is
1.5
million
Almog.
T
Our
allocation
from
the
state
is
estimated
at
2
million
and
our
teeth
boss.
Discretionary
is
budgeted
at
2,250,000
next
slide.
So
the
projects
that's
been
included
in
the
budget
for
councils,
consideration
is
resurfacing
at
three
million
dollars.
A
match
of
the
Z
to
30.
Projects
which
are
match
of
those
grant
funds
would
be
20%
or
2
million.
The
projects
that
were
wanting
to
consider
for
FY
21
include
the
South
Lumpkin
Road
streetscapes
and
trail
the
steam
Mill
Road
safety
improvements.
That
project
is
currently
there's
a
study
and
we'll
have
some
recommendations
from
that
study.
T
So
moving
forward
in
FY
21
to
implement
those
improvements,
Military
Road,
the
17th
Street
Lynwood,
13th,
Avenue
improvements
and
then
Whitesville
road
improvements,
Whittle
zeda
Williams.
So
those
are
the
projects
that
we're
wanting
to
program
as
a
match:
the
20%
match,
through
our
G
dot
of
funding
and
then
for
L
Meg
allocating
that
funding
as
part
of
the
spiderweb
project-
and
this
is
in
addition
to
the
spiderweb-
it's
the
replacement
of
the
Bull
Creek
Bridge.
T
T
A
T
Is
the
L
Meg
money
this
year?
It
was
over
two
million.
It
was
about
2.2
million
this
current
year,
so
we're
estimating
at
2
million.
Those
will
come
back
to
council,
specifically
when
that
exact
dollar
amount
is
determined.
Thank
you
so
Jeremy.
If
you'll
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
also
have
included
T
spliced
discretionary
summary.
This
shows
the
projects
that
have
been
budgeted
or
completed
funding
has
been
allocated
from
the
beginning,
which
started
in
FY
13.
T
You
can
scroll
up
a
little
Jeremy,
the
sidewalk
a
project,
and
you
can
see
the
total
at
two
million
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
and
at
the
bottom,
the
cumulative
project
allocation
balance.
You
know
when
this
originally
T
saw
started.
Council
approved
an
allocation,
and
so
this
would
be
the
balance
that
would
be
remaining
at
the
end
of
FY
21
in
each
of
the
categories
that
has
been
previously
approved
by
council,
showing
an
anticipation.
T
So
this
would
show
the
balance
at
1
million
two
hundred
and
sixty
five
thousand
is
our
estimated
balance
at
the
end
of
FY.
Twenty-One
and
in
those
particular
categories
and
moving
forward
through
FY
twenty
two
and
as
the
teeth
loss
comes
to
an
end
in
December
of
twenty
two,
which
would
be
FY
twenty
three
we're
projecting
about
five
million
dollars
in
total
for
the
next
two
years
to
complete
the
teeth,
loss,
discretionary
funding.
L
Deputy
director
Hodge
establish
city
manager,
I'm
gonna,
get
it
right.
One
day,
I
would
like
to
ask
you
about
the
grading
of
the
roads.
I
think
you
told
me
you
do
it
about
every
five
years
or
so,
because
I
have
some
roads
that
are
really
really
bad
off,
but
we
had
to
wait
for
the
regrading
of
those
roads.
Yes,.
T
P
Madam
chair
be
sure,
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
Deputy
city
manager,
Pam
I,
am
very
excited
and
very
think.
Oh,
we
finally
are
going
to
see
South
Lumpkin
roads
on
streetscape
I
like
to
be
a
part
of
that,
because
I'm
interested
in
what
we're
going
to
do
if
I
may.
Oh
absolutely
I
would
like
to
know
like
what's
the
timeframe
that
we're
looking
at
starting
looking
at
the
project,
you
know
so.
T
After
July,
once
the
budgets
adopted,
it
will
have
to
be
programmed
through
our
funding
sources
with
G
dot,
and
once
that
takes
place,
then
we
can
move
forward
with
the
RFP
on
the
project.
So
there'll
be
a
probably
about
a
three
month
timeline
in
order
to
get
that
programmed
and
a
contract
in
place
and
then
we'll
be
moving
forward
with
that.
So.
P
T
P
G
Budget
chair,
if
I
may
mr.
city
manager,
city
manager,
Hodge
I,
want
to
thank
you
for
focusing
on
the
need
of
the
improving
the
safety
of
Whitesville
Road.
It's
I
think
everybody's
known.
It's
been
a
long
time
problem
for
a
long
time
councillor
he
used
to
be
councillor
Henderson
its
mayor
Henderson.
Now
he
used
to
get
a
call
from
him
all
the
time
about
driving
it
and
he
said.
G
G
If
there's
any
way,
maybe
on
the
on
a
temporary
side
of
funding,
if
there's
any
way
to
go
ahead
and
get
some
of
the
pre
planning
out
or
the
engineering,
you
know
at
some
point,
we
may
be
able
to
identify
some
funding,
whether
it's
federal
or
state,
or
you
know,
additional
funding
from
whatever
source
that
we
would
be
able
to
jump
on
it
and
move
right
away
versus
taking
many
many
years
to
get
these
things
done
so
I.
One
I
want
to
thank
you
for
focusing
on
that
too.
A
E
A
A
Do
we
need
to
meet
it
two
o'clock,
or
can
we
move
that
till
I?
Don't
know
four
o'clock
well
an
hour?
Do
it
I
just
don't
want
us
to
come
in
at
2:00
and
then
have
to
come
back
at
5:30
if
we
can
get
out
of
that.
So
if
that's
acceptable,
you
will
be
receiving
a
councilors
will
be
receiving
a
message
from
Miss
Alexander
on.
If
on
what
time,
we're
gonna
meet
the
two
o'clock
time?
G
G
U
This
is
this:
is
Lisa
we're
going
to
send
you
out
today
you
will
have
a
map
of
what
that
layout
is
going
to
look
like
on
the
Civic
Center
floor
on
the
arena
floor.
You'll
have
that
today,
as
well
as
a
map
of
how
you
enter.
Yes,
we
are
going
to
have
you
to
enter
the
back
of
the
Civic
Center
in
order
to
have
that
privacy.
In
that
security
there
will
be
a
deputy
sheriff
there
with
you
to
get
you
from
to
get
you
to
park.
U
A
U
Only
the
council
members,
the
public,
will
enter
through
the
front
doors
and
we
will
have
again
deputy
sheriff's
will
be
there
to
direct
them,
but
you
will
have
a
map
that
shows
how
you
get
around
the
back
to
where
you're
supposed
to
be,
and
then
they
will
have
staff
available
to.
Should
you
have
their
confusion
or
don't
know
how
to
do
it.
They're
gonna
help
you
get
to
where
you've
got
to
go
and
they
will
know
who
everyone
is.
Yes.
G
C
G
Thank
You,
mayor
and
and
I
guess
you
know
in
talking
through
this
I'm
sure
y'all
looking
at
all
the
options,
potential
options
versus
just
you
know.
If
council
decides
just
to
go
ahead
and
accept
the
proposal,
I
guess
you're,
looking
at
several
options
that
would
benefit
the
the
employees
that
were
identifying
for
candidates
for
hazard.
Pay
am
I
right
on
that
or
they
yes.
C
There's
a
with
the
assistance
of
the
executive
management
team,
who
has
also
talked
to
directors
and
I've,
talked
with
the
public
safety
heads
as
well.
We've
come
up
with
a
list
now.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
the
odds
of
getting
that
list
exactly
right
right
out
of
gate
are
probably
a
little
short,
so
we're
gonna
be
presenting
something
that
will
allow
for
people
to
go
through
their
department
head
to
appeal.
If
they
feel
like
they
should
be
included.
Ryan.
G
C
Are
looking
at
yeah
we'll
bring
you
a
recommendation
or
now,
and
you
know
we'll
let
it
out
we'll
send
it
to
counsel
prior
to
the
meeting
and
we'll
also
include
some
other
notes
on
things
that
we
put
some
thought
into
and
why
we
decided
on
what
we
decided
and
then
from
that
point
it
saw
it's
obviously
up
to
Council.
Whatever
council
wishes
to
do
is
what
we
will.
We
will
carry
out.
D
D
It
says,
chase
Holmes
commitment
allocated
from
CDBG
or
I'd
like
to
kind
of
find
out
with
what's
earmarked
like
what's
what's
gonna
be
paid,
what
what
this
is
going
to
and
then
also
it
seems
like
chase
Holmes
falls
under
the
Housing
Authority,
and
so
why
would
the
Housing
Authority
not?
Why
does
it
need
our
money
from
our
budget
and
so
I
just
have
a
but
a
couple
questions,
and
hopefully,
maybe
next
week
or
maybe
today
that
can
be
discussed,
because
that
might
be
something
that
I
would
want
to
put
on
the
delete
list.
F
But
it
was
a
partnership
as
we
moved
in
the
direction
to
move
from
what
used
to
be
known
and
viewed
as
public
housing.
To
what
you
see
today
and
then
from
Peabody.
We
went
to
the
next.
One
was
bTW,
we've
done
at
least
three
project
and
chase
would
be
the
fourth,
but
we
went
to
bTW
and
we
were
a
participant
with
btw
in
a
similar
way.
F
I'm.
Sorry
Baker
village
was
the
third
one
that
I
couldn't
think
of,
but
we
did
it
with
Chase.
We
did
it
with
Baker
village,
and
then
we
did
it
with
bTW
and
now
we're
dealing
with
Chase
and
so
public
housing
is
not.
Today
is
not
the
public
housing
it
used
to
be,
and
our
citizens
in
Columbus
are
afforded
a
much
better
quality
of
life.
F
As
a
result
of
the
work
that
Lynn
Williams
and
the
Housing
Authority
have
put
in,
and
we've
been
fortunate
to
have
elem
Williams
in
his
skills
and
ability
and
his
former
background
working
with
housing,
Urban
Development,
deputy
city
manager,
Hodge,
you
may
have
the
specific
numbers
on
Peabody
and
then
bTW
and
excuse
me
a
baker,
village
and
then
bTW
and
now
chase.
And
typically
it's
been
somewhere
around
three
million
dollars
that
we
would
play
it.
F
Whether
it
was
using
the
sewer
phones
or
paving
fines
or
or
using
a
real
cash
out
of
the
general
fund
deficit.
Amanda
Hodge,
which
you
just
maybe
provide
more
of
the
details
in
what
we've
done
with
the
Housing
Authority
to
make
public
house
and
a
better
place
to
live
in
Columbus
Georgia.
Absolutely.
T
T
So
that
was
part
of
the
agreement
that
was
approved
by
council
in
March,
and
that
was
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
four
years
funded
out
of
CDBG
funds,
which
is
the
purpose,
obviously
is
for
low
to
moderate
income
opportunities
within
our
community,
and
this
is
definitely
a
good
fit
for
that
allocation.
And
so
that
was
approved
in
March
and
we
have
been
moving
forward
that
is
included
in
our
budget
for
CDBG
I
know.
T
F
F
You
don't
know
that
you're
there
and
and
there's
a
mix
of
affordable
housing
in
public
housing,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
section
8
vouchers
and
we
have
taken
care
of
the
least
of
those
or
these
in
our
community
by
making
home
where
they
live,
a
higher
quality
and
a
better
place
to
live.
And
you
don't
see
what
you
used
to
see
in
terms
of
level
of
cran
in
these
new
facilities
that
we've
put
them
in
and
I'm
really
really
proud
of,
the
partnership
that
we've
created
with
the
housing
authority,
but
the
bottom
line.
F
What
you
see
for
Chase
was
an
opportunity
for
us
to
convert
the
use
of
general
fund
money,
which
is
where
we
heard
what
we
desperately
need,
general
fund
money
and
we
were
able
to
take
federal
dollars
and
replace
the
general
fund
money
with
federal
dollars,
which
was
good
for
us.
As
we
are
going
through
our
budget
process
right
now,
and
we
did
that
back
in
March.
D
G
T
Originally
for
the
chase
homes
project,
it
was
going
to
be
or
requested
to
be
located
in
the
city
village
area
that
land
is
not
suitable
for
housing.
We
did
some
environmental
reviews
on
that
on
that
land
and
it
is
not
suitable
for
housing
and
so
chase
development
is
going
remain
on
the
existing
site,
so
there
was
no
transfer
of
property
related
to
Chase
homes
and
that
City
Village
property.
T
G
G
Manager
you,
you
kind
of
laid
it
out
over
the
years.
What
we've
done-
and
you
know,
I-
think
all
of
us
are
proud
of
what
we've
been
able
to
accomplish.
There
I
think
initially
they
needed
us,
they
needed
our
help
and
we
need
it
too
to
assist
since
then,
they
have
grown
into
a
very,
very
healthy,
financially
healthy
organization,
they're
doing
quite
well,
they're,
probably
doing
as
well
as
any
other
organization
in
this
town
and
that's
important
for
people
to
understand
that
they've
got
the
resources.
G
The
financial
resources
to
take
care
of
the
housing
needs
in
our
community
and
I
just
want
people
to
know
that
they
probably
have
one
the
best
balance
sheets
in
this
whole
state
of
any
other
organization.
When
you
start
looking
at
those
kind
of
things,
the
numbers
it's
amazing
at
what
they've
done
and
where
they're
at
today
and
I
think
they're
quite
capable
of
accomplishing
their
goals
without
our
assistance,
I
would
like
to
focus
more
in
this
case.
I
think
what
councilor
crowd
was
talking
about
is
just
to
make
sure
that
we
could
take
those
funds.
G
I
don't
want
to
encounter
him
mayor
Henderson.
Now
we
used
to
always
talk
about
this,
about
the
need
to
to
deal
with
our
blighted
and
derelict
and
properties
all
around
town
and
that
CDBG
money
is
so
important
in
doing
that
and
I
think.
That
was
probably
a
concern
that
that
you
know
that
we
didn't
tie
that
money
up
where
we
couldn't
take
it
and
clean
up
areas
throughout
our
community.
And
that's
not
what
we're
saying
here.
G
F
And
let
me
just
say,
councillor
Davis
and
of
course,
I
haven't
seen
enough
specifics
on
their
their
finances
to
say
how
strong
or
they
are
today
versus
where
they
were
back
when
we
started
the
partnership
with
them.
But
but
I
do
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
the
mayor
and
council,
then
and
now
for
stepping
up
to
partner
with
the
Housing
Authority.
F
Because,
truly,
if
you
lived
in
Columbus,
if
you
lived
in
Columbus
for
more
than
30
years,
you
know
the
difference.
Then,
and
you
know
the
difference
now
and
and
and
even
when
you
go
to
Phoenix
City,
because
I
think
what
we
did
and
leading
the
way
they
picked
up
and
they've
done.
Much
of
what
we've
tried
to
do
over
in
Columbus
to
to
do
a
paradigm
shift
related
to
public
housing
in
our
city.
F
But
they
may
have
needed
us
back
then,
but
it
was
a
good
partnership
and
that's
what
I
want
to
take
the
time
to.
Thank
you
because
you
know
I've
gone
to
all
the
ribbon
cuttings
and
if
you
went
to
the
ribbon,
cutting
that
Columbus
Commons
on
Veterans
Parkway
if
you've
gone
to
what
used
to
be
Chapman,
Homes
out
next
to
Baker
Village.
And
if
you
went
to
the
groundbreaking
that
Baker
Village,
you
know
it's
a
place
that
people
can
live
and
be
very,
very
proud.
F
We
he
turned
things
around
in
Columbus
and
is
because
councilmembers
VNL
stepped
up
to
to
support
the
Housing
Authority
in
their
efforts
and
I
want
to
commend
Lynn
Williams
for
his
leadership
in
that,
because
because
of
Lynn
Williams,
where
we
are
today
because
of
his
leadership,
so
they
may
be
stronger
now
than
then.
But
it's
a
partnership
worth
having.
And
so
just
thank
you
for
that.
Yes,.
G
They
say
manager
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
highlight
that
again.
Lynn
as
Williams
has
done
an
outstanding
job
and
I
know
he's
going
to
be
retiring.
Soon
am
I
right
on
that.
That's
great
and
look.
He
he's
got
the
organization
at
a
good
point,
a
really
really
good
point.
They
are
extremely
stable
and
that's
a
credit
to
the
management
and
all
the
members
over
there.
A
D
D
When
I.
First
looked
at
this
budget,
I
was
thinking
of
cutting
out
some
of
the
funding
that
was
going
to
the
golf
courses.
Now
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
move
some
of
the
funds
around
I'd
like
for
a
hundred
thousand
to
go
to
each
of
the
golf
courses.
That
would
mean
reducing
the
funds
going
to
Oxford
creet
by
50
and
adding
52
Bull
Creek,
and
my
reasoning
behind
this
is,
after
speaking,
with
the
pro
is
and
speaking
with
other
counselor
members.
D
Also
I
I,
now
understand
and
I
appreciate
that
we
knew
from
the
get-go
that
we
were
always
going
to
have
to
subsidize
subsidized
Oxbow
Creek
Golf
Course.
But
what
I
understand
now
also
is
that
Bull
Creek
could
become
self-sustaining
in
fewer
years
and
also
it
could
catapult
itself
to
a
position
of
being.
D
Self-Sustaining,
but
also
making
a
profit
which
so
what
I'm,
hoping
that
we
could
do
by
by
giving
a
hundred
thousand
to
each
organization
is
to
bring
Bull
Creek
up
quicker
to
the
point
where
it's
so
sustaining
or
profitable,
and
then
Bull
Creek
replaces
the
city
budget
in
sustaining
Oxbow
Creek,
and
if
we,
so
by
giving
each
of
them
a
hundred
thousand,
it
will
take
Bull
Creek
to
that
position.
Faster.
A
E
Would
be
a
simple
line,
item
adjustment
for
the
journal
phone,
but
keep
in
mind
that
the
golf
course
is.
The
budgets
were
balanced
with
those
subsidies,
so
we're
going
to
adjust
the
revenue
budget
because
the
subsidy
from
golf
courses
will
be
considered
a
revenue
item
from
the
general
fund
to
the
golf
courses.
We
also
need
to
find
where
we're
going
to
cut
fifty
thousand
from
the
Oxbow
Creek
expenditure
budget
and
where
we're
going
to
at
50,000
the
Bull
Creek
expenditure
budget.
The.
D
The
Pro
told
me
that
Oxbow
Creek
only
used
80
thousand
last
year
out
of
the
150
that
we
gave
them.
They
only
used
80
and
Bull
Creek
only
used
20
is
what
I
was
told
by
the
pro.
He
said
that
he's
not
going
to
allow
that
to
happen
again.
He
will
make
sure
that
he
uses
all
of
the
funds
given
to
him,
but
so
I
so
I
believe.
Based
on
what
he's
telling
me
and
from
last
year's
budget,
a
hundred
thousand
to
Oxbow
Creek
would
would
work
well.
F
And
let
me
just
interject
I
mean
maybe
the
Pro
knows
more
than
what
I
knew
and
more
than
what
the
finance
director
knows
and
I
would
have
to
yield
to
the
finance
director
to
see
if
the
golf
pro
who
I'm
sure
does
not
deal
with
the
finances,
if
he's
accurate
or
she's
accurate.
But
let
me
just
say
it's
a
council
decision
and
I
mean
with
six
votes
you
can
do
whatever
you
like,
but
but
but
if
you're
going
to
start
dealing
with
the
golf
courses,
what
what
a
city
manager?
F
What
I
would
recommend
is
that
you
do
a
professional
study
review,
something
that
you
can
really
know
that
the
future
direction
I
don't
want
to
just
haphazardly
to
say:
let's
move
this
move
that
and
I
don't
know,
and
if
a
golf
pro
is
who's
sharing
it.
Maybe
he
knows,
but
if
you're
going
to
do
something
we
ought
to
get
it
right
and
I.
Think
the
way
to
get
it
right
is
to
I
mean
we
probably
need
a
review.
We
need
a
full
review
of
golf
courses.
F
I
mean
are
our
fees,
what
they
should
be
are
green
fees
or
carp.
I
mean
I,
don't
know,
and
so
I
mean,
if
we're
just
going
to
start
doing
something
we're
to
do
it,
based
on
a
complete
with
good
recommendations
that
we're
not
talking
about
it
in
the
next
budget
year.
In
the
same
way,
whether
we
got
it
right
by
moving
this
or
didn't
get
it
right,
we
ought
to
just
take
a
good
look
and,
and,
and
that
council
decide
if
they,
if
they
want
to
do
whatever
it
is,
that
comes
out
of
it.
A
That
we
do-
let's
leave
this
on
the
list,
let's
in
this
next
week,
I'm
giving
you
guys
a
lot
of
homework
deal
with
talk
about
this
and
we
can
come
back
at
our
add
delete
meeting
with
the
recommendation
of
do
we
do
we
do
what
counselor
crab
has
said?
Do
we
incorporate
what
the
city
manager
has
requested?
I
think
this
is
too
big
a
decision
for
us
to
make
spur
the
moment
quite
frankly,
but
I
heard
councillor
huff.
Yes,.
L
Thank
you.
Madam
budget
chair
I've
had
a
discussion
a
few
times
now
and
from
the
time
I
arrived
in
2011.
If
the
conversation
I
had
on
a
regular
basis
with
councilor
at
McDaniel,
and
it
was
stated
to
me
that
the
golf
courses
were
not
supposed
to
make
money
and
not
supposed
to
break
even
it
was
monies
put
there
for
quality
of
life
for
the
citizens
of
Columbus
and
for
those
that
may
not
do
anything
but
like
our
and
Oxbow
was
put
there.
L
Like
I
told
a
couple
of
people
from
the
beginning.
It
was
moved
from
a
J,
McClung,
Memorial,
Stadium,
where's,
present
location,
hoping
to
have
18
holes.
They
only
received
nine,
so
it's
never
gonna
be
able
to
make
money
I'll
break
even,
but
it
does
provide
their
quality
of
life
for
the
ones
that
play
there
and
Bull
Creek
is
the
signature
course.
L
As
far
as
trying
to
have
the
larger
tournaments
and
things
of
nature,
to
show
off
the
city
and
for
business
people
to
have
their
outings
and
different
things
of
that
nature
based
upon
competing
with
maple
ridge
and
other
courses
in
town,
so
I'm,
basically
always
going
to
be
on
this
side
of
the
monies-
are
there
for
the
golfers
and
the
people.
And
we
need
to
get
information
from
the
board
that
the
Gotha
thority
to
see
what
the
monies
look
like
and
everything
because
I'm
sure
the
Pro
is
involved.
L
G
I'm
really
concerned,
this
is
just
a
budget
and
we
do
this
every
year,
but
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
city
manager
talked
about
looking
into
a
potential
plan.
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
time,
I
think
we
go.
We've
really
got
to
think
out
of
the
box
here
because
there's
so
many
changes
that
are
taking
place
in
our
community
and
you.
T
G
But
you
see
it
in
the
corporate
sector,
all
the
time
of
improving
and
revamping
and
retooling
and
renaming
I
mean
we
got
to
think
the
same
way
where
we're
subsidizing
a
nine-hole
golf
course
to
the
tune
of
150,000
a
year.
If
we
did
nine
holes,
the
fear
is
that
you
get
to
subsidize
it
another
150,000
and
then
without
really
looking
at
the.
What
is
the
dynamics
of
what's
happening
there?
The
question
comes
in?
Can
we
do
better?
Can
we
do
better?
G
Can
we
improve
instead
of
45
holes
of
golf
36
holes
of
golf,
but
maybe
even
make
it
even
better
and
we've
had
so
many
we've
got
the
new
East?
What
is
it
the
new
East
Highway
corridor?
That
I
mean
you
can
zip
from
the
South
in
the
town
to
Bull
Creek
and
in
a
matter
of
minutes
now
we
use
not
to
have
that
that
highway
in
place.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
changed
and
I
bet.
It
begs
the
question:
can
we
do
better?
G
Maybe
maybe
hotspot
Meadows
becomes
a
whole
new
venue,
a
different
style
recreational
venue
over
there,
where
it
wouldn't
have
to
be
subsidized,
and
you
can
do
what
councilor
crab
is
talking
about.
Take
that
money
and
turn
Bull
Creek.
It's
already
a
first
class
golf
course,
but
get
it
back
to
where
used
to
be
in
Pride
shape
and
do
some
of
the
things
that
you
can
improve
it
even
better
and
increase
the
participation
over
there
and
increase
the
usage
we're
in
term.
You
make
more
money.
G
So
the
question
is,
at
the
end,
the
day:
do
we
have
an
opportunity
to
make
more
revenue
in
these
areas
with
a
little
retooling
or
real?
Revamping
still
accomplish
the
serving
thing
and
not
have
to
subsidize
these
courses
anymore,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
there.
You
got
to
have
vision,
you
got
to
have
vision
and
right
now
the
reality
is
you're
150,000
for
nine
holes
and
fifty
thousand,
which
is
25
25
for
36
holes.
It's
hard
be
able
to
look
at
somebody
and
say
that
there's
value
there
there's
worth
so.
G
We've
come
a
long
ways
and
times
changed
and
there's
a
lot
of
stuff.
Now
that
we've
got
an
opportunity
here,
this
is
a
budget
question,
it's
a
budget
matter
and
there's
an
opportunity
there
in
the
city,
manager's
ride
I
think
we've
got
to
look
at
it
real
close
and
know.
We
attempt
it
with
the
former
mayor
that
was
in.
We
attempted
it,
but
I'm
not
sure
where
it's
gone,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
happened
since
then.
Thank
you.
P
Some
concerns
and
I
feel
that,
yes,
why
this
is
a
budget
matter.
I
think
this
is
something
that
I
tend
to
agree
with.
The
city
manager.
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
should
have
a
work
session
or
a
study
to
be
done
and
I
think
we
should
look
at
this
there,
a
mid
mid-year
budget
because
we
are
in
a
crisis
right
now.
Public
Safety
is
asking
for
a
lot.
P
The
courts
are
asking
there's
a
lot
and
and
I
just
feel
that
why
the
Gulf
is
important,
isn't
something
that
every
citizens
in
Columbus,
Georgia
does
or
clay
at
this
time
and
considering
where
we
are
at
the
budget.
I
agree
that
we
should
have
a
study
or
we
should
form
a
committee.
We
should
look
at
both
of
them,
but
not
during
this
budget
session.
P
I
think,
maybe
in
mid-year
or
or
later
on,
I
think
whatever
we
have
in
place
in
the
budget
now
should
be
in
place
so
I'm,
not
in
support
of
adding
any
money
or
taking
money
away
from
any
or
either
or
the
golf
courses.
I
think
we're
at
a
critical
time
right
now
that
that's
not
like
a
real
real
priority
to
me,
as
it
is
public
safety
and
all
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
considering
Corona
19
and
the
budget
is
now.
But
it's
something
to
look
at
for
I'm.
D
Not
changing
I'm,
not
changing
any
of
the
dollars,
I'm
just
moving
dollars
around
they've
already
budgeted
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
the
to
golf
courses.
All
I'm
saying
is
mu.
There
they've
got
a
hundred
and
fifty
going
to
a
nine-hole
course
and
fifty
going
to
a
36-hole
course.
If
we
were
to
take
the
two
hundred
thousand
and
divide
it
by
forty
seven
holes,
then
that
means
it's
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
five
dollars
and
32
cents
per
hole
so
to
buy.
D
If
you
were
to
really
divide
that
up
and
and
take
that
and
give
that
target
cost,
it
would
be
a
hundred
and
fifty
three
dollars
and
some
you
know
one
hundred
fifty-three
thousand
190,
both
Creek
and
38,000
97
Oxbow
I,
understand
that
that
38
to
97
cannot
Oxbow
is
gonna
need
more
than
that,
so
we
just
split
it
50/50
and
get
a
hundred
thousand
to
each
its.
So
it's
not
changing
the
budget
at
all,
except
moving
50
thousand
from
Oxbow
to
Bull
Creek,
making
it
making
them.
E
A
E
I
just
want
to
make
note
that
I'll
make
the
adjustment
on
the
general
fund
as
a
budget
neutral
item,
but
there
will
be
a
reduction
to
the
expenditure
budget
that
the
golf
Authority
will
have
to
advise.
What
items?
What
line
items
to
reduce
from
the
budget
of
Oxbow,
Creek
and
I'll,
plug
50,000
on
for
Bull,
Creek
and
they'll
have
to
advise
what
line
items
to
increase
for
Bull
Creek.
E
O
A
O
E
Okay,
so
I
don't
have
to
so
now.
The
chief
wants
all
of
the
years
to
be
at
$3,500.
There
is
no
differential
differential
in
the
years
of
service.
I
just
want
to
make
clear
that
you're
one
I'm
sorry
year.
Three
was
the
only
year
that
where
there
was
a
difference
where
the
officer
would
receive
a
$1,000
increase,
okay,
so
now
all
the
years
will
be
at
the
3,500.