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A
Columbus
Georgia:
this
is
your
city
council,
mayor
Teresa,
Tomlinson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley,
pups,
Barnes,
district
1,
Glen,
Davis
district
2,
loose
district
3
Evelyn
turnip,
you
Mayor
Pro
Tem
and
district
4
Mike
Baker
district
5,
Gary
Allen
district
6,
Mimi
Woodson
district
7,
Walker
Garrett
district
8,
Judy,
Thomas,
post
9,
at-large
counselor
skip
Henderson
post
10,
at-large,
counselor,
Tony,
Washington
click,
Council
and
City.
Attorney
Clifton
fade
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
City
Council.
B
Welcome
to
the
August
22nd
meeting
of
the
Columbus
City
Council,
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
with
us.
I
want
to
recognize
some
folks
we
have
in
the
audience,
and
today
we
have
Central
Texas
University
out
of
Fort
Benning
Georgia
they're
here
with
their
history
and
government
class.
So
if
you're
with
history
and
government
class
at
Central,
Texas
University
out
of
Fort
Benning
just
stand
up
and
let
us
recognize
you.
B
We
appreciate
you
all
appreciate
what
you
do
for
our
country
and
for
this
community
and
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
with
us
tonight
and-
and
we
appreciate
your
interest
in
our
local
government.
So
thank
you.
We
also,
of
course,
every
time
we
come
together.
I
get
started
on
the
right
foot
by
having
an
invocation.
So
at
this
time
we
want
to
welcome
father
Dan
O'connell,
who
is
the
is
with
the
whole
family
Church
and
we're
gonna,
ask
him
to
come
forward
here
to
the
podium
and
we're
so
pleased
father
to
have
you
with
us.
C
Lord
we
thank
you
for
faithful
government
leaders,
international,
national
and
local.
We
ask
that
your
wisdom
and
courage
may
constantly
guide
their
decisions
and
actions
for
the
benefit
of
everyone.
This
earth
that
public
servants
inspired
by
Christ's
love
will
seek
ways
to
foster
peace
and
justice
in
all
lands
that
those
who
govern
Nations
will
make
decisions
based
on
the
welfare
of
their
people,
rather
than
on
access
to
wealth
or
power
that
world
leaders
will
find
a
way
to
bring
peace
and
justice
to
the
region
of
Jesus
birth.
C
That
political
leaders
at
all
levels
will
consciously
choose
life-giving
solutions
to
societal
problems
that
rulers
and
countries,
States
cities
and
all
Civic
domains
will
open
their
eyes
and
quicken
their
response
to
the
needs
of
their
citizens.
That
governmental
leaders
will
find
ways
to
restore
hope
and
dignity
to
those
suffering
from
war
and
natural
disasters
that
all
who
lead
countries,
townships
or
other
local
governmental
entities
may
be
mindful
of
the
voices
of
those
who
suffer
at
the
margins
of
society.
C
B
B
F
E
G
I
Hello,
I'm,
dr.
rosey,
Williams
I'm,
a
second
grade
teacher
at
Richmond,
Road
Elementary,
on
behalf
of
miss
Charlene
Robinson.
We
appreciate
your
invitation
and
willing
to
come
back
with
more
and
I
like
to
thank
the
parents
who
took
the
time
out
tonight
to
bring
their
children
in
and
support
them.
Could
you
please
stay
with
the
romance.
B
B
J
Madam
mayor
mr.
city
manager,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
council,
as
you
know,
I'm
John,
Williams
I'm,
the
deputy
chief,
appraiser
and
I'm
here
to
update
you
on
appeals.
It's
a
standard
opening
slide
for
every
time.
I
speak
before
you,
the
last
many
months
this.
By
the
way
it
was
as
of
2:30
today.
So
if
the
the
people
that
do
the
work
in
the
background
are
upset
with
me,
I
apologize
but
I
wanted
to
get
the
most
up-to-date
information
that
I
could
and
not
run
with
what
we
had
last
night
as
of
2:30.
J
Today
we
have
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixteen
appeals
processed.
We
still
have
by
my
estimate
about
five
hundred
remaining
in
the
mail
that
came
in
the
mail
that
need
to
be
processed.
This
is
12.5.
Three
percent
of
the
taxable
real
property
counts
we
have
in
the
city.
The
assessed
value
and
dispute
from
these
appeals
is
2.8
percent
of
the
total
taxable
digest
and
I'll
go
over
that
again
in
a
moment.
What
that
means
matter
of
fact,
I'll
cover
it
right
now.
J
Valiant
dispute
is
the
difference
between
the
assessment
value
on
their
2017
notice
of
assessment
and
one
of
two
things:
either
their
return
value
and
that's
a
specific
form
that
they
file
between
the
date
of
January,
1
and
April
1
of
the
assessment
year
so
this
year
either.
If
they
didn't
follow
return
law
states
that
in
essence,
they
did
file
a
return
and
that
was
their
16
assessed
value.
So
if
a
property
owner
actually
filed
a
return
for
their
real
property,
it
would
be
the
difference
between
that
return
amount
and
the
2017
assessment.
J
J
J
255
of
those
are
designated
for
a
division
manager,
review
oftentimes.
That
is
me,
they've,
been
elevated
to
my
level
of
review
because
of
some
complication.
The
appraiser
just
didn't
feel
comfortable
making
a
decision
on
so
that
gets
elevated
to
my
level
or
another
managers
review
and
then
99%,
I'm,
sorry,
99
or
3%
of
those
appeals
have
been
designated
as
an
administrative
manager
review
and,
as
I
said
in
the
past,
those
are
oftentimes
a
removal
of
a
homestead
exemption,
as
some
other
form
of
administrative
review.
J
K
L
J
Heard
that
before,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
heard
some
comment
from
other
counsel
about
that
very
question.
A
floodplain
specifically
was
mentioned
I
think
last
week
or
the
last
time
you
all
met
and
I
checked
with
with
my
residential
manager,
because
oftentimes
that
would
that
would
come
into
play
with
residential
properties
and
he
said
his
knowledge
that
wasn't
a
a
characteristic
that
was
kept
in
the
system
as
floodplain.
J
J
When
we
talked
about
neighborhoods-
and
one
of
them
was
mentioned-
was
Bellwood
where
there,
the
zoning,
the
rezoning
that
had
taken
place
several
years
ago
had
changed
it
to
commercial
zoning,
and
so
the
value
of
the
land
was
valued
at
commercial
and
then
it
was
still
at
a
house
on
it
with
the
residents,
not
a
house,
that
was
an
office
but
a
residence.
And
so
we
have
gone
back
into
those
parcels
and
it's
a
there's.
A
code
for
that
house
on
a
commercial
properties
called
a
101,
doesn't
mean
then
to
you.
J
We've
we've
gone
back
and
cored
the
system
and
identified
those
and
put
into
the
system
what
I
would
call
an
administrative
flag
that
says
if
these
people
don't
appeal,
then
we're
going
to
correct
that
after
the
appeal
period,
I,
don't
remember
telling
this
body
that
we
would
send
out
new
notices.
I
do
remember,
saying
that
we
would
identify
those
and
send
letters
after
the
appeal
period
to
the
effect
of
property
owners.
J
There's
been
over
800
properties,
not
just
the
one-on-ones,
and
there
are
four
different
categories
that
we
looked
at,
but
over
800
and
Steve
might
remember
that
number.
But
there
were
over
800
properties
that
we've
identified
is
for,
in
that
instance,
at
a
commercial
land
rate
on
a
property
that
was
still
being
used
residential
and
that
stems
from
zoning.
J
You're
talking
about
the
h
accounts
that
that
type
of
thing
we've
identified,
a
big
section
of
H
account
properties
that
when
I
looked
I
looked
at
one
today,
the
rate
for
that
I
think
it
was
three
acres
had
a
higher
rate
than
the
rate
for
the
parent
acreage.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
and
was
that
property
was
appealed.
I
made
a
correction
on
that
appeal.
It's
one
of
those.
J
It
was
elevated
to
division
manager,
review
all
of
the
h
account
appeals
are
being
elevated
to
division
manager,
review
and
I'm
looking
at
okay,
so
that
that's
an
example
of
if,
when
you
say,
Midland
I
automatically
think
of
H
accounts
sure
large
tract
of
land,
that
that's
the
type
of
thing
we're
seeing
out
there.
If.
K
M
Mr.
women's,
thank
you
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
to
you
and
to
the
other
folks
from
the
tax
assessor's
office,
who
are
here
almost
to
the
person
people
who
have
talked
with
me,
who
have
had
interaction
with
your
office
have
said
it
has
been
a
positive
interaction
that
they
have
been
what
they
think
is
well
treated
and
courteous
and
quickly
in
and
out,
and
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
and
to
convey
that
to
the
staff
that
that
you
are
working
with.
Thank.
M
J
M
J
M
J
That
just
is
a
case-by-case
basis.
I
wish
I
could
tell
you
it's
gonna,
be
three
weeks
and
then
get
a
notice
from
us
because
of
the
unusual
amount
of
Appeals
that
were
processing
and
reviewing
it's
going
to
take
longer.
We
have
statutorily
180
days
between
the
time
they
file
the
appeal
and
the
time
that
we
communicate
the
result
of
that
appeal
to
them.
J
To
my
knowledge,
we've
never
taken
180
days
to
do
that
to
date.
As
of
this
week,
once
the
letters
go
out
from
the
Monday
meeting
yesterday's
meeting
we
last
week,
we
had
about
900
letters
that
have
gone
out,
and
these
are
notifications
of
a
reduction.
So
there
should
be
probably
1,200
letters
by
the
end
of
the
week
that
have
gone
out
that
have
notified
an
owner
that
they
have
received
a
recommended
reduction
based
on
their
appeal.
J
The
the
recommend
that
I
keep
calling
them
letters
and
let
me
correct
myself-
miss
Middleton's,
probably
twitching
behind
me-
they're,
not
letters
their
30-day
notices
of
assessment,
so
they
look
just
like
the
original
notice
of
assessment.
It's
a
state
mandated
form
and
it
has
the
new
value
on
it.
I
say
let
her
because
I
just
missed
speak.
Sometimes
it's
a
30-day
notice,
so
that
30
days
is
a
30-day
window.
J
The
taxpayer,
the
property
owner,
has
to
further
appeal
that
their
valuation,
if
they
don't
like
what
we've
sent
them
a
30
day
notice
to
say
you
know
what
we've
reduced
your
value
based
on
what
we've
looked
at,
and
here
it
is,
if
they
don't
like
it,
they
have
30
days
to
continue
or
not.
They
can
accept
it.
If
they
like
it,
they
don't
do
anything
and
that
30
days
expires
and
that's
the
value.
If
they
don't
like
it,
they
can
call
us
now
I
just
misspoke
again.
J
M
Of
those
55%
roughly
that
you
have
that
have
been
recommended
for
reduction,
is
there
a
pattern?
Is
there
a
reason
why
those
have
been
recommended
for
reduction?
I
know
that
I
know
that
councillor,
Garrett
and
I
have
talked
about
some
of
the
I.
Don't
know
factors
or
whatever
that
we
thought
had
been
removed
and
you've
said
not.
But
a
lot
of
people
have
said
to
me
about
the
the
floodplain
or
the
detention
pond
or
whatever.
So
is
there
a?
Is
there
any
kind
of
a
pattern
in
in
all
of
those
that
55%
other.
J
Than
the
areas
that
we've
talked
about,
which
is
that
Bellwood
property
in
my
mind,
I've
got
neighborhood
numbers
that
are
typically
and
if
there
were
a
pattern,
it
would
be
residential
property
on
commercially
zoned
land
land
that
used
to
be
residential.
But
city
council
approved
a
change
in
zoning
so
that
zoning
change
highest
BES
we've
talked
about
that
before
changes,
the
valuation
of
that
land
and
then
to
see
that
it
was
given
a
very
high
rate,
commercial
land
rate.
J
M
But
yeah,
that's
that's
fine
and
then
my
last
question.
There
were
some
of
us
who
were
at
the
and
I.
Don't
know
mr.
woods.
If
this
is
something
you
would
answer
or
maybe
the
chair
are
mr.
Lomax
would
answer
when
we
were
at
the
board
of
Tax
Assessors
meeting
last
week,
the
issue
of
the
wreck
of
the
resolution
that
council
passed
came
up
and
was
tabled,
and
so
my
question
is:
when
will
that
come
off
the
table?
When
will
that
discussion
be
had,
and
that's
when
will
that
discussion?
Be
that
if.
N
N
N
The
the
concerns
that
were
expressed
by
various
members
of
the
board
of
tax
assessor's
include
the
fact
that
of
the
seventy
nine
thousand
parcels
in
Muskogee
county
twenty-three
thousand
eighty
six
parcels
in
Muskogee
county,
where
the
recipient
of
valuation
decreases
and
reverting
to
the
2016
digest,
would
negatively
potentially
negatively
impact
those
owners.
We,
the
resolution
did
not
state
how
we
would
address
those
people
who
would
be
negatively
impacted.
N
The
resolution
did
not
address
the
thousands
of
pending,
quite
frankly,
8700
pending
appeals,
which
have
already
been
submitted
to
the
Board
of
Tax
Assessors,
which
we
believe
would
still
need
to
be
addressed.
The
resolution
did
not
address
the
possibility
of
the
board
having
to
provide
a
new
notice
of
assessment
to
all
property
owners,
because
their
real
property
value
is
being
changed
by
reverting
to
2016,
digestive
ocg.
N
A
section
48
v
306
requires
such
a
notice,
and
if
we
had
to
resend
another
notice,
we
feel
that
would
have
would
delay
us
from
delivering
the
digest
to
the
tax
commissioner,
which
would
also
delay
that
the
Tax
Commissioner
being
able
to
send
out
her
bills.
The
resolution
did
not
address
homestead
status
changes
that
would
be
people
who
applied
and
received
a
homestead,
our
home
states
who
have
been
removed.
The
resolution
did
not
address
the
approval
of
conservation
use
valuation.
N
Those
were
issues
that
were
discussed
by
the
board
members
and
that
caused
the
board
to
have
concerns
about
what
happens
if
we
reverted
back
to
the
2016
digest.
There
are
also
concerns
that
reverting
to
the
2016
digest
does
not
cure
the
problem.
If
you
believe
that
a
problem
exists
which
I
obviously
many
of
you
do,
it
would
only
be
a
band-aid.
N
The
board
is
trying
to
focus
on
addressing
the
appeals,
correcting
any
valuation
errors
which
may
exist
in
trying
to
move
forward
with
a
proper
digest,
reverting
back
to
the
2016
digest
the
board
just
didn't
feel
that's
the
proper
thing
to
do.
For
that
reason,
a
vote
was
taken
and
it
was
unanimously
approved
to
reject
or
decline.
The
resolution
of
the
City
Council.
M
J
M
M
Each
time
we
have
heard
that
mr.
Williams
and
I'm
sorry,
if
I'm
sounding
argumentative
but
I,
am
that's
right.
Every
time
we
have
heard
that
the
next
sentence
has
been,
and
so
these
people
would
be
harmed.
If
we
roll
back
to
the
2016,
and
my
assertion
is
not
if
my
tax
is
frozen,
it
would
I
would
not
be
harmed,
but
I
understand
that
the
board
has
taken
that
action
and
mr.
Lomax
I
have
to
tell
you
that
when
you
said
this
is
just
a
band-aid.
N
Yes,
ma'am
I
have
put
band-aids
over
wounds
as
well.
I
also
cleaned
the
wounds.
I
apply,
medication
and
I
do
whatever
I
can
to
help
those
wounds
heal
as
quickly
as
possible.
That
is
what
the
board
of
Tax
Assessors
intends
to
do.
We
intend
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
resolve
the
appeals
and
anyone
who
has
a
value
in
dispute.
We're
going
to
address
that.
Well,.
M
Just
I
just
wish
that
there
was
there
had
been
some
way
that
we
could
have
had
some
conversation
about
this
entire
issue.
I
apprec--
mr.
Williams
coming
and
he's
been
very
forthright
with
us
he's,
given
us
lots
of
information,
but
we've
not
had
an
opportunity
and
still
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
members
of
the
board
and
we
have
spoken
to
their
attorney,
but
we
have
not
spoken
to
them
and
I'm
just
I'm.
Sorry,
we
haven't
had
that
opportunity.
M
N
And
there's
no
animosity
on
our
side,
but
now
mr.
Garrett
knew
exactly
how
to
address
the
board.
He
emailed
us
requested
to
be
on
the
agenda,
came
to
the
board
meeting
on
Monday
and
and
carried
on
a
conversation
with
the
board.
The
board
meets
almost
every
Monday
and
individuals.
There
were
a
couple
individuals
there
yesterday
have
the
opportunity
to
request
to
be
on.
N
B
P
P
2017
under
the
old
system,
as
far
as
issuing
the
notices
and
then
running
a
pro
forma
and
a
new
system
just
to
give
you
the
variables
to
look
at
so
you
could
work
out
the
differences.
You
said,
I'm
saying
I
mean
I've,
been
through
a
lot
of
software
converges
with
companies
and
they
ought
usually
most
they'll,
run
dual
images
to
make
sure
all
the
problems
that
work
now
or
you
go
with
a
live
system.
P
J
Know
there
were
many
comparisons
done
by
the
Beiler
technologies,
because
there
were
at
times
three
different
databases
that
were
operating
so
the
and
remember
two
projects
right:
the
conversion
project
and
the
revamp
reject.
So
the
revaluation
project
was
always
done
in
Tyler
and
is
world
the
software,
and
it
was
done
by
Steve,
as
I
told
you
for
here.
I.
J
Manage
that
so
that
system
ran
the
revaluation
and
it
was
never
run
in
oasis
because
it
was
incapable
of
running
that
type
of
revaluation.
The
there
were
double
checks
between
what
Oasis
had
and
what
the
conversion
is
world
had
many
many
times
there
were
comparisons
made
as
a
as
a
part
of
the
process
of
the
conversion,
but
no,
we
did
not
run.
P
P
J
J
C
P
J
P
P
P
J
Q
J
J
To
so,
the
project
that
was
purchased
by
the
city
of
Columbus
was
for
a
desktop
type
of
analysis
that
was
done
by
Steve.
That
was
the
revaluation
project
boots
on
the
ground,
as
we
call
it.
What
you're
referring
to
it
is
was
not
purchased
by
the
city
of
Columbus.
That
would
have
been
much
more
expensive
to
do
so
that
that's
the
difference
between
the
product.
How
do
we
fix
it?
It's
being
fixed,
you
don't
want
to
hear
me
say,
but
it's
being.
J
Are
so
I,
you
know
there
have
been
areas
that
we've
addressed
because
of
appeals.
You
know
bail.
Would
that
that
area
we
talked
about
for
the
first
time
we
realized
what
had
happened
was
because
of
an
appeal,
and
so
after
a
couple
of
those
and
that's
what
I
briefed
this
body
on
when
we
see
kind
of
reoccurrence
of
things
happening,
we're
going
to
look
at
that
area
and
that's
exactly
what
we
did.
So
it's
the
appeal
literally
that
triggers
these
things
I.
P
Understand
that
also
does
put
a
big
burden
on
the
on
the
taxpayers
to
get
off
of
deadlines
in
deadlines
and
time
and
so
forth,
but
and
sometimes
when
you're
working
in
tax,
you
want
the
numbers
right
to
begin
with.
You
don't
want
to
have
to
be
an
appeal
process
to
work
it
out.
You
want
the
numbers
right
from
the
start
and
that's
what's
so
frustrating
some
of
us
just
like
on
the.
When
do
we
mail
out
notices?
Mr.
Lomax,
do
you
know.
L
J
P
Understand
that
okay,
my
concern
is
how
many
noticed
bills
tax
bills
and
going
to
go
out
that
are
a
long
way
from
being
resolved.
As
a
lot
of
will
go
out
when
you,
you
probably
will
not
even
have
reviewed
them
yet
and
you're
running
a
50%
reduction,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
going
to
be
over
billed
well
out.
P
N
N
P
J
P
P
Know
yeah,
that's
right.
It
will.
My
concern
is
that
the
people
who
get
those
property
tax
bills,
because
that's
an
official
demand
payment
from
the
government
that
it
be
as
accurate
as
it
can
yes
and
not
be
in
essence
over
build
and
have
to
fight
to
get
it
reduced
if
it
can
be
reduced
beforehand.
That's
by
far
and
away
the
best
answer
and
I
was
just
hoping
it
as
many
of
those
as
possible.
Get
get
to
that
point.
I
agree.
We
do
okay!
N
R
That
it
does
everything
we
expect
it
for
it
to
do
the
software,
because
it
seems
as
though
I
keep
asking
questions.
They
said,
there's
no
glitch.
So
that
means
there's
some
input.
That's
wrong
into
the
system,
because
the
software
is
just
a
software,
so
again
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
performance
wise.
What's
our
timeline
as
far
as
trying
to
get
all
of
this
work
done
and.
R
R
L
N
R
R
N
J
That
it's
fair
market
value,
the
two
acres
is
frozen
when
someone
applies
for
homestead
exemption,
so
you're,
the
assumption
in
your
question
is
they've
applied
for
homestead
exemption
to
get
that
two
acres
frozen.
So
it's
the
value
of
their
home
and
the
value
of
the
two
acres
it
hypothetically
sits
on
that
is
frozen.
Okay,.
R
S
J
N
O
R
N
Address
the
25
year
issue:
I
can't
address
the
1/3.
Every
year
the
State
Revenue
Department
has
issued
regulations
and
their
regulations
include
a
document
called
an
appraisal
procedure
manual
and
it
provides
suggestions
from
the
Department
of
Revenue
as
to
what
should
occur,
and
the
appraiser
procedural
manual
suggests
and
recommends
that
1/3
of
parcels
be
revalued
or
reassessed
every
year.
N
I
think
there
is
a
common
and
John
Williams
can
speak
to
this,
a
common
misunderstanding
as
to
what
is
involved
in
a
reassessment
of
revaluation
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
go
out
and
physically
inspect
the
property
John
used
the
term
earlier,
a
desktop
revaluation
that
may
mean
somebody
in
their
office
looking
at
the
property
card
and
just
basically
making
a
determination
at
their
desk
as
opposed
to
physically
inspecting
the
property.
It
is
not
a
statutory
requirement
that
1/3
be
revalued
or
reassessed
every
year,
although
it
is
encouraged
by
the
Department
of
Revenue
in
their
regulations.
When.
R
They
broke.
Excuse
me
when
they
brought
the
idea
of
a
new
software
package.
It
was
mentioned
to
us
that
there
would
be
a
little
white
band
riding
around
town,
taking
pictures
of
properties
right
and
that
you
were
looking
for
the
houses
that
possibly
had
had
renovations
and
had
not
pulled
the
permit
and
things
of
these.
These
nature's.
N
R
Tyler's
had
some
problems
and
they
had
been
voted
out
of
three
counties.
I've
read
about
in
Florida
Miami
from
the
article
I
read,
has
put
them
on
a
short
leash
going
to
it.
I
guess
the
end
of
this
year,
first
part
of
next
year,
there's
probably
nine
or
ten
or
so
of
the
counties
of
the
159
counties
in
Georgia
that
are
working
with
them.
R
I'm
just
frustrated
at
this
point
because
I
have
people
in
my
district
that
didn't
understand
the
property
was
devalued.
Taxes
stayed
the
same.
They
increased
a
little
bit,
so
they
didn't
appeal
they
should
have,
but
they
didn't
appeal.
They
thought
they
were
fighting
the
government.
So
why
worry
about
it
for
the
ones
that
have
bought
rental
property
to
better
the
communities
to
clean
up
the
blight?
R
Now
the
taxes
are
going
up
on
them
and
if
they
have
these
taxes
to
state
where
they
are
right
now
and
they
pass
them
on
to
their
tenants,
it's
probably
going
to
at
least
double
the
rent
and
if
these
homes
become
empty
at
this
point,
then
we're
back
to
square
one.
It
creates
blight
again
in
the
neighborhood
and
I.
R
Just
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
get
why
it's
so
difficult
to
sit
back
and
look
at
I've
looked
at
several
software
packages
lately
that
we've
had
problems
with
and
in
my
little
time
on
this
earth
software
software.
You
look
at
software
for
what
it
is
that
you're
doing
and
what
your
expertise
is.
You
input
the
information.
If
you
input
the
wrong
information,
you
get
the
wrong
the
exercise
you
get
the
wrong
results
and
I
think
that
that
was
why
council
was
asking
to
kind
of
slow
things
down
to
see.
R
If
we
could
input
information,
however,
we
need
it
to
mr.
Williams
mentioned
that
there
was
an
example
where
they
entered
a
zero
in
the
wrong
location
and
it
gave
the
wrong
results.
There
has
to
be
more
of
those.
It's
just
too
many
examples
at
this
point
of
people
complain
and
complaining.
How
phones
are
ringing
off
the
hook,
I
left
town
to
take
my
son
to
college
I'm,
getting
phone
calls
about
property
taxes
I'm
due
to
a
parent
meeting
in
15
minutes
and
I'm
having
to
answer
property
tax
questions,
and
they
want
to
know.
R
Why
is
it
that
you
represent
us
and
you
don't
have
any
power?
I
said
well,
our
system,
the
Board
of
Tax
Assessors,
has
all
the
power
and
it
goes
up
to
the
revenue
commissioner
and
to
the
state.
But
we
are
sitting
here
to
take
all
the
heat,
all
the
questions
and
you
know
no
disrespect
to
the
chair
in
the
bullet.
But
we've
requested
the
bullet
to
be
here
because
we
have
cameras
on
their
board.
Meetings
have
no
cameras.
R
R
As
we
go
forward
and
some
people
get
stuck
and
I
used,
that
really
mean
that
some
people
are
going
to
get
stuck
in
this
situation
and
they're
going
to
get
hit
with
some
taxes,
and
there
are
people
who
own
property
I'd,
admit
them
that
have
had
it
for
years
and
they're
trying
to
hold
on
to
it
and
they
feel,
like
developers,
are
coming
after
them
to
try
to
get
their
property.
That's
why
the
taxes
are
going
up,
and
it's
not
a
good
look
for
us.
It's
not
a
good
look
for
anybody
associated
with
this
government.
R
Those
of
us
up
here
take
it
very
seriously.
We
have
over
two
hundred
thousand
people
there,
eight
of
us
for
the
ones
visiting
there,
eight
of
us
that
represent
eight
districts.
There
are
two
at-large
councilors
here
and
we've
represented
all
of
the
people
and
we
all
are
taking
the
heat
for
something
we
can't
correct.
R
So
I
don't
have
all
the
right
questions
and
the
right
answers
all
the
time,
but
I
know
that
the
digest
was
working
very
well
open
to
this
year
for
whatever
reason
putting
in
a
new
software
package
as
the
upset
the
applecart
and
it
appears
without
pointing
fingers.
The
public
feels
that
there
are
games
being
played
with
the
software
system
to
get
the
taxes
up
well,.
N
I
got
several
points:
I
guess
I
need
to
address.
First
of
all,
I
am
the
attorney
for
the
Board
of
Tax
Assessors.
They
are
my
client
I
represent
them.
I
do
not
represent
title
technologies,
although,
if
counsel
requests,
we
will
do
everything
we
can
to
have
one
or
more
representatives
from
title
technologies
here
next
week
to
answer
questions.
N
Tylar
technologies
has
had
a
long-standing
relationship
with
the
city.
We
did
not
cut
the
border.
Tax
assessor's
did
not
contract
with
tonic
technologies.
It
was
the
City
of
Columbus.
Tata
technologies
did
not
provide
software
just
to
the
Board
of
Tax
Assessors.
It
provided
it
to
several
city
departments.
So,
although
I'm
happy
to
take
the
heat
for
Tata
technologies,
I
really
can't
speak
for
them
and
I
would
prefer
to
let
one
of
their
representatives
address
any
concerns
you
may
have
about
their
performance
and
any
problems
they
may
be
having
in
other
locales
I.
N
N
There
is
a
procedure
where,
if
someone
has
a
mistake,
for
example,
their
homestead
was
inadvertently
removed,
they
can
still
contact
us,
bring
that
to
our
attention
and
the
board
will
correct
that,
even
if
it
happens
after
they
pay
their
tax,
they
can
still
do
that
and
there
is
a
refund
procedure
in
the
code
and
I
think
the
statute
of
limitations
is
three
years
on
that.
So
it's
not
like
on
August
14
that
was
like
dooms
day
or
an
eclipse
day
for
practical
purposes,
but
it's
simply
the
closing
of
the
appeal.
N
R
R
R
R
J
J
J
That's
an
example:
here
we
go
and
I'll
be
glad
to
forward
this
to
it's
a
lot
of
information
of
the
395
properties
that
went
up
so
less
than
six
tenths
of
one
percent
of
the
dodge
of
the
properties
in
this
county
went
up
a
thousand
percent
or
more
tenfold.
Two
of
those
were
over
thirty
five
thousand,
and
there
were
both
bond
accounts
that
went
from
unimproved
improved.
They
won't
be
appealing.
One
of
those
was
above
32,000.
J
The
remainder
the
392
properties
were
below
thirty.
Four
thousand
sixty
two
of
those
had
2016
values
less
than
ten
thousand
dollars,
so
a
tenfold
increase
would
be
one
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
from
ten
to
110.
Three
hundred
and
twenty-nine
of
those
had
2016
values
less
than
ten
thousand
dollars.
J
Her
appeal
I
was
very
close
to
what
she
had
indicated
her
value
to
be
it
wasn't
exactly,
but
it
was
closer
to
five
hundred
percent
than
a
thousand,
but
that's
an
example
of
a
property
in
this
town,
and
there
are
many
that
should
have
done
it.
There
are
a
thousand
percent.
There
are
three
thousand
percent
or
more
increases
that
should
have
gone
up.
Let
me
give
you
some
examples.
J
I,
looked
at
four
of
them
and
steep
from
Tyler
put
these
together
for
me
to
look
at
on
an
Excel
spreadsheet
like
we've
talked
about
doing
four
of
them
had
sales
in
2016,
where
we
had
a
$320
value
or
I.
Think
twelve
thousand
is
another
repetitive
number.
We
saw
on
unimproved
land
that
had
sales
on
it
and
the
sell
price
in
16
was
higher
than
what
we
put
on
it.
That
was
a
thousand
percent
or
more
increase.
J
Eleven
of
them
were
to
the
new
construction.
Four
of
them
actually
had
transfers,
they
weren't
a
new
construction
where
they
were
sold
from
one
party
to
another
and
that
sale
price
was
higher
than
our
thousand
percent
or
more
increase
that
we
put
on
so
I
only
give
you
those
limited
examples
and
I've
got
more
statistics
that
I
don't
want
to
bore
anybody
with,
and
I
will
email
them
to
you.
J
R
In
particular
was
the
the
gentleman
that
was
interviewed
after
standing
in
line
on
the
14
and
he's
a
homeowner,
and
he
says
properties
valued
at
125
thousand
or
so,
and
he
said
he
was
glad
to
sell
it
to
anyone
for
100
that
day.
So
my
question
was
based
on
that
and
others
others
that
I've
spoken
with.
Yes,.
J
R
That
they'd
been
staying
there
for
years
and
all
of
a
sudden
as
a
homeowner,
you
get
ready
to
file
your
property
taxes.
You
have
home
stays
and
everything
and
you're
looking
at
a
house
going
from
20,000
25,000
to
100,000
in
value,
and
none
of
us
would
pay
that
for
a
house
in
that
neighborhood
well,.
J
R
The
ego
would
be
wrong
because
I've
been
in
my
car
lately
riding
around
trying
to
get
an
idea
of
where
the
problems
are
and
somewhere
and
some
of
the
on
some
of
the
streets.
I
don't
see
how
the
houses
could
be
worth
more
than
twenty
to
thirty
thousand
dollars.
You
know
I'm,
not
the
expert,
but
I.
Just
don't
see
it
and.
K
A
couple
of
questions-
and
you
may
have
to
get
back
with
me
on
these
mr.
Williams,
okay,
based
off
what
we
talked
about-
the
houses
that
weren't
the
fries
and
then
the
properties
that
had
the
taxes
lowered
I'm
come
up
with
ten
thousand
five
hundred.
Ninety
three.
They
got
lowered
that
we're
not
under
the
freeze
that
sound
about
right,
I,.
J
K
J
K
K
If
you
could,
let
me
know-
and
you
may
not
have
this
number
in
front-
you
as
well,
but
I'd
like
to
know
how
many
people
have
actually
accepted
the
reduction
and
I'm
not
sure
how
long
they
have
to
accept
that.
But
I'd
like
to
know
that
and
then
I
also-
and
you
may
have
this
infer
any,
how
many
properties
went
up.
100
percent
or
more
in
taxes.
J
K
Well,
I
guess
the
last
thing
and
it's
kind
of
throwing
up
on
what
councillor
Thomas
had
to
say.
You
I
think
we
all
understand
the
resolution
was
not
perfect
and
this
isn't
really
D
it's
more
to
the
board.
That
was
to
start
a
conversation.
That's
why
we
did
want
the
board
to
have
some
discussion
and
we
would
have
welcome
feedback
and
suggestions
on
that
to
achieve
what
our
goal
was,
which
was
to
slow
this
process
down
and
allow
more
time
to
evaluate
you
know
what
you
can
perceive
as
anomalies
or
errors.
K
However,
you
want
to
call
it
whether
that
resolution
has
been
reject
or
not.
If
you
have,
if
the
board
has
some
sort
of
ideas
of
a
solution,
we'd
love
to
hear
them,
something
that
can
help
our
citizens
other
than
just
because
the
appeal
deadlines
pass
other
than
just
file
your
appeal,
but
we
would
welcome
suggestions.
We
want
to
work
with
the
board
and
if
you
all,
have
some
sort
of
idea
for
helping
our
citizens
we'd
certainly
welcome
it.
I'll.
J
Let
the
board
speak
for
themselves:
I'm,
not
a
board
member.
As
you
know,
I
do
work
for
Miss
Middleton,
who
is
employed
by
the
board,
so
in
a
roundabout
way,
I
work
for
them,
but
I'm,
certainly
not
a
board.
Member
sure
and
I've
got
non-home
set
of
properties
that
increase
20
to
30%
or
more,
is
something
one
of
your
questions.
There
are
also
properties
that
increase
that
we're
home
set
it
I
can
get
that
number
two
as
well
believe
it
or
not.
There
are
properties
that
our
homesteaded
that
increased
and
people
are
pilling.
J
Those
just
like
I
would
imagine
sure
the
other
end.
There
are
people
that
are
appealing
those,
even
though
they
have
a
homestead
of
value
and
it
went
down.
They
wanted
to
go
down
more
yeah
so
that
there's
all
kinds
of
different
homeowners
with
all
types
of
different
rationale
for
filing
uphill,
but
I
want
to
answer
any
questions
you
give
me
sure
that
is
that,
hopefully
anybody
that's
asked
me
questions
I've
responded
in
a
timely
manner.
That's
my
goal,
but
it
was
there
another
question
that
I
did
not
write
down
that
you
wanted
to
know.
You.
K
J
R
J
R
J
R
O
R
N
Wasn't
it's
not
it's
not
the
system,
it's
the
it's!
The
the
local
ordinance
that
we
have
here
in
Muskogee,
County
on
the
homestead
is
the
homestead
is
frozen
from
going
up
and
going
down
so
back
in
2009.
When
we
had,
you
know,
reductions
in
value
throughout
the
county
throughout
the
state
throughout
the
nation,
people
wanted
to
know,
could
they
you
know,
reject
or
disclaim
their
homestead,
and
the
law
does
not
allow
for
that,
so
it's
frozen
from
frozen.
N
R
N
R
R
N
O
T
T
T
Matt
was
born
here
and
raised
here
and
just
to
be
beat
up
without
asking
the
question
and
the
question
you
gotta
ask
us:
let's
work
together
came
after
you
beat
us
up,
that's
why
can
the
minimums
are
not
here?
They
don't
want
standing
here
and
get
beat
up
by
City
Council.
Okay,
we're
doing
the
best
job
that
we
can
do.
We
are
a
part-time
board,
we're
not
full-time,
and
yet
this
council,
some
of
these
council
members,
has
gone
out
and
just
have
to
encourage
people
to
beat
us
up.
Put
our
family
numbers
out.
T
There
put
our
emails
out
there
and
just
bombard
us
on
stuff
that
we
don't
need
to
be
bombarded
with.
You
had
my
deputy
here
three
weeks
ago,
but
six
hours
asking
the
same
question
each
one.
You
got
a
mess,
the
same
questions
over
and
over
again
I'm
saying
this
week.
That's
dumb
he's
asked
the
question.
We
got
the
facts
and
you
had
them
right
with
the
mistakes
I
made
on
all
sides.
We
might
then
make
the
right
decision
every
time.
What
maybe,
what
we
thought
was
the
right
one.
T
But
why
beat
us
up
a
sudden
we've
done
that
we
feel
be
done
right
by
the
law
and
why
people
do
not
want
to
fall
in
law.
I,
don't
understand
it.
While
customers
here
decisions,
Gilliam
discounsel,
appeared,
says:
let's
do
this
in
somebody
else.
I
think
it
was.
The
mayor
asked:
what's
the
consequences
and
he
says
I
don't
care
where
I
am
a
private
citizen
and
I
am
on
the
tax,
assessor,
buit
and
I
do
care
all
the
folks
are
now
accessible
care.
T
We
care
what
goes
on,
but
we're
not
gonna
come
here
and
get
beat
up
by
you
guys.
That's
not
gonna
happen.
That
is
not
going
to
happen.
That's
buddy!
Not
that's!
Why
I'm
not
here
because
they
see
what
goes
on?
Okay,
you
want
to
point
fingers
to
poor.
Forget
me:
we
made
a
mistake,
we're
gonna,
correct
it,
but
there's
a
process
for
that.
That's
the
city's
do
not
want
to
follow
that
process.
My
hands
are
tied.
Okay.
Now
we
keep
talking
about
taxes,
I
heard
it
so
many
times.
T
I
know
we
do
not
do
taxes,
we
assess
value
of
properties
and
we're
going
to
step
in
some.
That's
not
right.
We're
gonna,
correct
those
will
correct
a
ton
of
already
and
my
mentor
is
we're
not
going
to
get
anything
go
out
until
it
goes
out
correct
and
right.
Okay,
but
that
being
said,
there
are
some
properties
that
we
found
they
had
and
we
knew
this
going
into
this
evaluation
because
there
was
no
manpower
in
place.
T
Okay,
there
was
not
enough
money
given
to
the
tax
accessible
over
the
many
many
years
before,
I
got
on
the
board,
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
thing.
There
was
a
Miss
and
there
was
a
lot
of
properties
that
might
that
was
missed
in
evaluation.
We
found
a
lot
of
properties.
They
had
not
been
assessed
property
over
over
the
years.
Okay,
we
knew
this
evaluation
would
catch
the
ones
ones
that
have
been
things
have
been
added
on
and
we
remodeling
it
an
addition.
We
know
those
things
would
be
called.
T
We
got
those
we
got
all
of
that.
Okay,
yes,
value
will
be
some
increase
in
value
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
right
now,
but
value
will
go
up.
Man
with
that
being
said,
you,
the
council
right
here,
has
the
ability
to
control
that
one.
We
don't
control
that
we're
gonna
put
a
value
on
the
floor.
That's
gonna,
be
right,
it's
gonna
be
a
couple.
It's
going
to
be
fair.
You
set
the
millage
rate,
you
set
the
tax
rate.
Not
us,
please
understand
that.
T
So
if
the
taxes
are
too
high,
you
have
the
ability
to
change
yet
by
changing
the
millage
rate.
Okay,
we
don't
do
that.
We
don't
control
taxes,
just
a
value
of
properties.
That's
all
we
do
and
we
think
we're
doing
it
in
a
fair
and
implementing,
but
those
who
do
not
believe
that
there's
a
process
for
that.
If
you
get
mad,
you
don't
want
to
do
that.
I
can't
help
that
I'm
following
the
state
law,
okay,
I've,
never
been
to
jail
and
they
were
going
to
jail.
I'm
gonna
do
what's
right:
okay
and
I.
T
I,
don't
take
it
too
good,
like
some
politicians,
not
a
politician,
never
been
one,
don't
want
to
be
one,
but
if
you
got
this
water
set
on
have
a
conversation.
Yeah
I'd
be
glad
have
conversation
with
you.
If
you
want
to
come
in
our
council
meeting,
I'll
be
glad
for
you
to
do
that.
I'm
not
gonna,
sit
here
and
get
beat
up,
though
not
going
to
do
that.
If
you
want
to
even
build
me,
some
question
be
glad
to
be
spun
to
you.
Mr.
U
O
You're
feeling
the
same
thing,
we're
feeling
because
of
the
the
process
because
of
the
Tyler
technology
system
that
was
in
place
because
of
the
lack
of
communication,
because
the
deadlines
being
missed,
we
caught
the
heat
from
the
public,
okay
and
that's
why
we're
asking
you
to
be
here.
That's
why
I
asked
mr.
mr.
Williams
would
be
here.
We
wanted
answers
to
question
because
we
didn't
have
the
weather.
There
was
no
communication.
We
did
not
know
what
to
tell
the
public.
We
were
not
informed
if
I
recall
right.
O
When
we
were
presented
with
the
Tyler
technology
process,
there
were
going
to
be
on-site,
assessments
of
properties
with
iPads
city
employees
will
be
riding
around
or
whoever
we
contractor
will
be
riding
around
with
iPads
and
taking
pictures
of
property.
That's
how
the
process
would
be
working
over
a
period
of
time.
We
would
be
able
to
capture
that
instead
of
somebody
having
to
go
out
and
get
out
of
the
car
and
walk
around
and
all
that
stuff
make
appointments,
they
would
be
drive
by
the
site
and
I.
Think
mr.
O
Williams
said
that
y'all
did
5,000
of
those
this
year.
That's
the
way
it
was
presented
to
council
was
that
would
be
there,
wouldn't
be
this
online
personal
discretion
over
where
the
property
ought
to
go
up
or
not.
There
would
be
someone
actually
going
out
to
the
property,
which
is
not
happening,
and
a
lot
of
the
lot
of
the
variables
in
the
system
were
not
put
in
correctly.
So
that's
why
you've
got
all
these
problems.
That's
why
people
are
mad.
O
O
Of
us
have
attended
homeowner
group
meetings
and
we
we've
literally
had
our
head
handed
to
us,
because
people
are
upset.
There
was
a
guy
in
tears
who
owned,
200
rental
properties
and
he
thought
he
was
going
to
lose
everything
because
there
was
no
communication
and
when
you
don't
communicate
with
us,
you
get
as
frustrated
as
you
want
to.
But
when
you
don't
communicate
with
us,
there's
a
problem:
okay
and
we
bought
this
system
in
2014.
We
had
maybe
two
or
three
updates
over
that
period
of
time
and
then
in
June
of
13.
O
You
came
to
this
council
you
in
general,
and
you
told
us
we
got
a
problem,
we're
not
gonna
meet
the
June
30th
deadline
and
that's
the
first
we
heard
of
anything
okay,
so
I
echo
what
my
counterpart
said.
We
need
communication
and
I'm.
Not
my
voices
raised
a
little
bit
but
I,
don't
know
with
you,
I'm
frustrated
with
the
whole
process
and
then
tower
technologies.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
bad
things
about
them
over
a
period
of
time.
I
know
they
probably
have
done
some
good
things.
O
It
not
it's
not
just
in
property
taxes,
but
it's
in
it's
in
a
wide
variety
of
areas
with
city,
county
governments,
including
court
assessments
and
in
jail
time,
and
all
these
different
things
working
with
sheriff
department's
I
mean
there
are
many
many
problems
and
I
think.
If
the
research
had
been
done
properly
on
who
to
hire,
we
might
have
a
better
system
in
place
right
well,.
T
I'm
not
gonna
debate
some
of
the
things
you
say
it.
I
I,
don't
agree
with,
but
I'm
not
gonna,
debate
appeal
with
you.
Well,
you
go
I'll,
go
to
lunch.
Wait
I'll,
buy
you
lunch.
You
can
talk
whatever,
but
I'm,
not
going
to
be-better
mill.
You
save
some
of
things
that
I
do
not
agree
with,
but
I'm
not
gonna,
debate
them
on
this
floor
right
here
tonight.
That's.
T
Their
and
I
think
the
tech
that
that
the
Tyler
technology
works,
I
really
do
okay,
and
you
can't,
when
you
make
some
decision
to
do
some
things
in
a
three
years
old.
You
to
me,
is
almost
nil
and
forward
try
to
have
a
conversation
about
that
piece
of
it,
air,
whether
it
was
good,
bad,
a
mistake.
That's
done!
I
can't
go
back
and
fix
that
one
for
three
years
ago
yeah.
T
But
what
do
we
do
going
forth
and
I
really
have
not
seen
the
leadership
in
this
City
Council
when
they
go
to
these
forums,
because
it
almost
like
my
phone
blow
up
the
next
day
and
my
email
look
the
next
day
so
I
don't
know.
What's
going
on
or
what's
being
said
when
folks
go
to
forums
because
I
get
my
folks
are
being
blowing
up
all
over,
they.
O
T
W
For
the
board-
and
you
know
we
came
into
this
and
what
I
do
is
value
and
I
and
all
I
can
say-
is
I,
do
the
best
I
can
edit
I've
got
12
years
experience
I
do
residential
and
commercial
and
I'm
standing
by
this
system
and
I
think
if
we
we're
gonna
fix
them,
do
everything
we
can
to
go
forward
and
I
think
going
back
would
be
an
T
progressive.
That's
a
word
and
everything
Chester
said:
I
agree
with
and
I
support
it
and
that's
all
I
can
say
from
my
standpoint.
W
The
term
that
I
use
right
now
I
mean
I'm
I,
didn't
mean
mistake,
but
whatever
obviously
doing
a
sixty
nine
thousand
five
hundred
parcel
automation,
evaluation
method.
There
are
some
issues
that
may
come
up
that
need
to
be
addressed
and
that's
something
that
we're
working
on
we're
trying
to
get
all
the
kinks.
Whatever
the
word.
You
want
to
use
we're
trying
to
fix
these
problems
or
issues
well,.
O
W
W
N
Consistent
with
his
line
that,
if
we
find
a
group
of
properties
that
have
an
error
or
a
mistake
or
an
anomaly
in
just
in
my
southern
lingo,
it
just
ain't
right
we're
going
to
do
what
we
can
to
fix
it.
There's
no
doubt
about
that.
He's
talked
about
the
Bellwood
subdivision,
Midland
area.
If
there
are
errors,
if
there
are
flood
plains
on
on
prop
on
Lots
that
we
haven't
noted,
if
the
lights
are
unbuildable-
and
we
have
it
noted
those.
O
O
O
N
But
I
don't
want
to
leave
the
impression
that
there's
a
problem
or
a
mistake
with
the
system.
There
are
problems
or
mistakes
with
individual
parcels
and
we
are
going
to
fix
those
if
someone
has
a
floodplain
on
a
lot
and
we
didn't
catch
that
we're
going
to
address
it
if
there
are
properties
that
are
unusable,
but
we
didn't
know
that
we're
going
to
correct
it.
What.
O
One
of
the
emails
I
received
gentlemen
explained
it
perfectly.
This
is
basically
an
opt-out
situation.
You
are
we're
forcing,
as
councillor
Baker
said
earlier,
we're
forcing
those
a
homeowner
to
opt
out
on
an
increase
in
the
property
tax
and
I'm
glad
councillor
Garrett
asked
for
the
evaluations.
Yes,
I
mean
we
think
about
gas
prices.
If
somebody
if
a
gas
station
goes
up
a
nickel,
we
start
looking
for
another
station
to
go
buy
from
about
an
increase
in
a
property
tax
over
20
percent.
Over
10
percent
should
be
appealed.
O
In
my
opinion,
I
mean
a
thousand
percent
is
ridiculous.
Councillor
Baker
was
spot
on
when
he
said
that
they
we
should
have
run
this
in
16
valuations
in
order.
You
say
you
couldn't
do
it,
but
I
know
that
the
system
could
be
done.
You
could
have
entered
it.
You
could
have
spent
the
time
to
enter
it
in.
If
this
system
had
put
in
had
been
implementing
any
other
corporation,
everybody
involved
would
have
been
terminated.
Yeah.
N
Have
requested
them
and
they'll
be
there's
many
representatives
that
is
they
want
to
have.
If
we
can
get
on
the
agenda
for
next
week,
we
will
have
them
here,
I'm
being
a
little
bit
of
a
sip,
because
I
can't
speak
for
Tyler
technologies.
I
can
ask
them
to
be
here.
The
request
has
been
made
and
we'll
do
what
we
can,
but
I
can't
make
them
show
up.
Well,.
N
Y
N
Y
And
I
think
you
were
because
I
remember
back
the
conversation,
a
very
conversation.
Mr.
Williams,
you
were
having
with
councillor
Henderson
that
you'd
be
shocked
if
it
was
an
over
certain
amount.
Well,
it's
well
over
that
amount.
So
you
know
that
in
itself
speaks
volumes
to
the
word
I've
used
over
and
over
unprecedented.
Y
When
we
sent
the
resolution
to
you
guys,
we
sent
it
to
you
to
ask
as
a
forum
a
rate
at
this
council
could
intervene
and
maybe
come
up
with
a
solution,
because
we
understand
the
problem
of
the
quagmire
of
an
issue.
That's
all
we
could
do.
We've
tried
every
avenue
we
can
mr.
Fay
Thank
You
mr.
City
Attorney
for
reaching
out
to
other
representatives
steam
representatives
of
the
state.
You
were
right
in
your
determination
and
your
counsel
to
us
really
all
we
could
do
is
ask
you
guys
for
a
resolution
and
the
resolution
wasn't
design.
Y
Y
This
is
not
over
okay,
when
you
know
we're
having
these
meetings
and
we're
going
over
a
lot
of
stuff
that
every
someone
said
every
meeting
that
we've
been
going
over
yeah,
but
it's
still
not
over
yet
there's
going
to
be
other
issues
that
surface
along
the
way
throughout
the
year-
and
you
know
you
know
what
we'll
say:
I'm
gonna
show
some
leadership.
I'm
gonna
show
some
leadership
here,
I'm
going
to
apologize
to
the
citizens
of
Columbus
for
where
we're
at
today.
Nobody
has
done
that.
To
this
point.
Nobody.
Y
Whether
it's
arrogance,
whether
it's
pride,
whether
it's
just
a
lack
of
willing
to
admit
what
really
happened,
nobody
has
apologized
to
citizens
Columbus
and
my
only
regret
if
I
could
go
back
and
do
it
all
over
again.
I
would
have
never
approved
that
software
upgrade
entry
evaluation
and
through
that
whole
process,
I
never
thought
it's
going
to
be
a
countywide
devaluation,
because
we've
have
been
asking
questions
through
these
tax
allocation
district
matters
and
all
we
thought
all
this
stuff
has
been
up
to
date.
Y
Y
My
only
regret
is
that
that
I
did
approve
that
request.
If
I
would
have
known
where
we
were
today.
If
I
would
have
known
what's
happened
today,
I
would
say
no
way.
There's
got
to
be
a
better
way.
Somebody's
gonna
have
to
give
me
some
assurances.
Somebody.
That's
given
me
some
confidence
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
work
through
all
this
stuff,
because
I
would
not
put
the
citizens
of
Columbus
through
that,
but
I
can't
go
back.
I
can't
go
back.
Y
Neither
can
you
nobody
else
and
we're
at
where
we're
at
today
and
we're
trying
to
work
through
this.
You
guys
came
here.
You
gave
us
your
answer
to
the
resolution.
You
gave
us
your
reason
and
your
logic
behind
it.
Okay,
the
clocks
been
ticking.
The
clocks,
pretty
much
ran
out.
Atlanta
seemed
to
do
it.
Atlanta
seemed
to
work
through
it.
Y
You
know,
for
whatever
reason,
but
you
know
I,
think
everybody's
kind
of
just
shocked
and
surprised
at
the
number
of
Appeals
and
where
we're
at
today
and
I
think
there
will
be
more
and,
like
you
said,
this
is
not
the
end
of
it.
People
are
still
going
to
have
they're
just
going
to
have
a
lot
of
issues
to
deal
with
and
I.
You
know
include
myself,
I,
don't
know
where
this
is
going,
but
it's
already
cost
me
a
lot
of
money
to
deal
with
it
personally.
Y
You
know,
I
think
that
the
main
thing
here
and
I
said
it
before
mr.
Williams
agree
with
what
we
think
we're
both
on
the
same
page
I
mean
for
where
we
go
now.
We
just
got
to
get
it
right.
Councillor
Allen
is
dead
right.
If
this
way
ever
happened
in
the
corporate
world,
I,
don't
think
anybody
have
jobs
today,
that's
the
truth
of
it.
Those
government.
Y
But
we
can't
go
back
and
change.
The
only
thing
we
do
is
try
to
work,
get
it
all
resolved,
strengthen
Alf
on
the
best
solution
possible.
Let's
keep
moving
we're
gonna
have
to
keep
addressing
these
issues
along
the
way,
and
hopefully
you
know
the
goal
would
be
to
Restall
the
re
and
still
the
confidence
in
the
citizens
of
Columbus.
That's
where
we
need
to
go,
that's
where
we
need
to
get
and
I
hope
we
can
all
do
that
together
and
that
we
can
continue
to
communicate
from
here
on
out
and
try
to
do
that.
Y
The
communication
we
should
have
had
that
long
time
before.
Maybe
we
could
have
avoided
a
lot
of
this,
but
it
is
where
it
is
and-
and
you
know,
I
again-
I'm
a
council
representative,
but
I'm
a
citizen
of
Columbus
I'm
in
the
middle
of
it
too,
like
everybody
else
so
I
do
apologize
that
we're
at
we're
at
today,
and
and
hopefully
we.
This
is
all
going
to
turn
into
a
positive,
somehow
someway
I
hope.
So
too.
All.
M
We
are
now
into
hour
and
a
half
tonight,
but
I
think
that
we
have
done
that
because
of
the
response
that
our
citizens
have
given
to
us
have
brought
to
us
that
this
is
a
concern.
I,
don't
recall
any
other
issue,
quite
frankly,
that
we
other
than
our
yearly
budget,
but
any
other
issue
of
this
nature
that
we've
spent
this
amount
of
time
on
I.
M
M
That
notice
was
that
the
tax
assessor's
office,
that
taxpayer
would
not
have
had
to
come
to
the
tax
assessor's
office,
because
it
would
have
been
taken
care
of
and
I
think
that
those
red
flags
or
what
we
are
hearing
about
and
we
are
hearing
about
it.
I
can't
go
anywhere
without
somebody
talking
to
me
about
the
tax
situation,
and
perhaps
you
are
the
same
way
but
I
want
to
say
to
you
and
to
anybody
else.
That
happens
to
be
listening.
That
I,
don't
think
this
council
and
these
individual
councillors
are
playing
politics
with
this
issue.
M
I
think
we
want
the
same
thing
that
the
board
of
tax
assessor
wants
Tax
Assessors
wants,
and
that
is
a
fair
and
accurate
tax
digest,
and
once
we
can
get
that,
then
hopefully
we
can
move
on
I.
Think
it's
going
to
take
us
a
long
time.
I
think
that
some
of
the
motives
that
have
been
ascribed
to
us
into
you
and
that
we're
doing
this,
because
the
thaw
didn't
work
and
we're
doing
this,
because
people
want
to
buy
the
property
and
we're
doing
this
because
it's
lining
our
pockets.
M
You
know
all
of
those
kinds
of
things:
they're,
not
true,
we'll
still
be
there
in
the
minds
of
some
of
our
folks
but
I,
really
and
honestly
believe
mr.
Randolph,
that
the
reason
that
these
meetings
have
gone
on
some
time
at
nauseam
is
because
of
the
concern
that
the
counselors
have
for
the
procedure
and
making
sure
that
it's
accurate.
That's
that's
our
goal
and
I
appreciate
your
coming
tonight.
I
appreciate
mr.
Moorefield
being
here
and
I
particularly
appreciate
mr.
Williams
again
and
the
knowledge
and
information
that
he
has
brought
to
this
to
this
process.
Z
You
mayor
I
promise:
this
is
a
very
quick
question.
Mr.
Williams,
just
for
my
own
curiosity,
I
mean
obviously
I
share
some
of
my
mom
fella
councils
concerns
about
how
we
got
here.
My
immediate
concern
those
same
as
yours,
as
you
stated,
as
your
chairman,
so
eloquently
put,
it,
is
to
get
this
right
going
forward
and
for
this
year,
but
how
difficult
would
it
be
for
you
to
give
me
for
the
last
ten
years
the
number
of
Appeals
and
the
number
of
re-evaluation
is
done
for
those
years.
Z
Z
Z
J
That
countywide
revaluation
is
not
a
requirement
of
the
law
every
three
years
and
mr.
Lomax
touched
on
it.
I've
got
the
law
here.
If
I
could
just
read
it's
real
short
560
11,
10.09
parentheses,
parentheses,
D
number
for
parentheses,
hi,
it's
from
the
appraisal
procedure
manual
and
it
talks
about
field
review
frequency.
This
is
the
only
place
I
found
it
in
the
law.
J
J
So
what
we've
done
is
a
countywide
revaluation
and
I
do
I'm
sure
somebody
misspoke,
because
I
thought
I
heard
someone
say
we
didn't
know
it
was
gonna,
be
a
countywide
revaluation
and
I
know
I've
stood
here
and
briefed
that
it's
gonna
be
a
countywide
revaluation.
I
know
that
in
May
of
16,
over
69,000
mailers
were
sent
to
property
owners.
That
said,
and
I
quote,
Muscogee
County
has
contracted
what
Tyler
Technologies
Inc
appraisal
services
to
conduct
a
complete
reappraisal
of
all
properties
in
Muskogee
county
for
2017.
J
Z
J
Z
You
can
get
that
to
be
a
great
that
would
be
great
to
be
able
to
compare
it
to
what
we're
going
through
right
now
and-
and
that
is
that
is
for
no
other
reason
than
just
to
try
to
be
able
to
see
some
kind
of
benchmarks
see
what
we've
been
a
expecting
year
a
year.
And
if
we
tripled
it,
how
close
it
is
to
what
we've
got
this
year
and.
B
All
right,
it
looks
like
we're
finished
with
this
discussion,
as
others
have
said,
but
thank
you
so
very
much
John
and
chairman
Randolph
and
mr.
Moorefield
and
Betty,
of
course,
and
and
mr.
Lomax
for
being
here.
The
frustrations
have
obviously
been
vented
on
both
sides.
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
I
I
just
want
to
say,
maybe's
been
alluded
to,
but
makes
sure
we
appreciate
your
time.
B
And
it
was
the
state
that
long
ago
separated
it
from
the
municipality,
the
local
governing
authority
for
the
purpose
that
it
would
not
be
influenced
by
politics
or
whatever
else,
as
councillor
Thomas
said,
and
so
I
think
that
most
certainly
not
our
objective.
Our
objective
is
to
make
sure
we
have
a
fair
and
accurate
tax
digest
and.
L
B
The
volunteers
are
the
private
citizens,
I
should
say
I.
We
really
do
appreciate
you
and
your
expertise.
People
don't
just
fall
onto
this
board.
You
have
to
have
a
very
high
level
of
expertise.
You
do
work
directly
for
the
revenue,
commissioner,
and
they
set
a
very
high
bar
of
your
training
and
so
forth,
and
so,
despite
all
the
the
listed
things
that
we
want
you
to
look
into
and
that
we
feel
that
we
wish
had
been
done
another
way
or
this
way,
we
really
do
appreciate
the
time
and
tremendous
effort
that
you've
put
into
this.
B
U
U
O
Thank
You
mayor
well
number
one
mr.
manager
appreciate
you
bringing
it
up,
because
if
it
fits
the
schedule
of
Tyler
technologies
that
people
come
in
and
mr.
Lomax
mentioned,
then
we
could
offer
several
dates.
We
could
begin
with
the
29th
and
go
forward,
give
them
some
few
days
to
have
somebody
come
down
and
talk
to
us
what
I
would
prefer
as
a
counselor
I
would
like
to
continue
to
have
someone
come
in
and
offer
the
communication
dialogue
that
we've
always
talked
that
we've
been
talking
about
several
weeks
now
and
that
is
to
have
continuous
updates.
O
I
know.
Mr.
Williams
is
nice
enough,
send
out
emails
and
give
us.
You
know
a
snapshot
but
I'd
like
somebody
to
stand
here
and
tell
us
where
we
are
I.
Think
it's
good
for
us
to
hear.
It
gives
us
information
that
we
can
pass
on
to
those
that
when
we
get
questions
and
it's
good
for
it
to
go
out
over
the
air
so
that
people
can
can
hear
what's
going
on
and
what
adjustments
were
being
made
in
that
we
are
working
to
I,
know
mr.
O
O
U
M
B
Y
I
think
at
some
point,
whether
it's
at
this
meeting
or
some
point
I-
think
that
that
this
body
would
like
to
see
a
strategic
plan
as
to
how
the
board
of
tax
assessor's
the
tax
assessor's
office
is
going
to
meet
the
DIA
Department
of
Revenue
requirements
here
on
out
with
assessments
and
valuations
I
think
the
citizens
want
to
know.
Are
we
just
going
to?
Is
this
going
to
happen
again
or
what
are
we
going
to
do
from
here
on
out
how
we're
going
to
keep
it
current?
Y
You
know,
I
know
what
Harris
County
does
I
know
what
other
counties
do
to
lighten,
if
you
say
you're
overloaded
and
you
you're
limited
on
manpower
and
resources,
or
so
you
know,
maybe
you
just
split
it
up
here
and
there
and
work
on
it
annually
segments
you
don't
have
to
do
it
all
in
one
year,
but
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
plan
is.
I
think
the
citizens
I
think
we
owe
it
to
the
citizens
to
know
what
the
true
strategic
plan
is
from
here
on
out
now
that
this
systems
been
turned
on.
Okay,
yeah.
B
And
along
that
same
lines,
mr.
Lomax,
something
about
what
we're
doing
every
year
and
also
I
mean,
is
one
of
the
reasons
this
was
so.
The
results
were
so
shocking
because
it
was
35
years
since
our
last
countywide
reassessment
and
what
are
other
communities
doing,
do
they
have
countywide
reassessments
every
10
years
and
then
they
have
a
system
for
how
they
reassess
every
year.
N
B
B
B
Our
objective,
obviously,
is
that
we
never
have
a
jolt
to
our
community
to
your
board
like
this
ever
again.
So
what
were
these
are
the
steps
we
need
to
take
to
make
sure
we
have
something.
That's
that's
adjusted
more
frequently
to
make
sure
that
it's
accurate
and
fair.
Okay,
thank
you.
All
right
appreciate
you
all
again
and
we're
moving
on.
We've
got
approval
of
minutes
for
August,
8,
2017
and
corrected
minutes
for
July
25th
a
2017.
B
X
C
X
O
L
O
AA
Sir
mr.
Jimmy
Lewis
owns
the
house
and
I
think
50:34.
He
owns
one
of
the
two
houses
on
Farley
Drive.
His
daughter
Starla
came
to
see
us
and
was
not
aware
that
the
property
is
zoned,
neighborhood
commercial
and
it
creeped
up
into
that.
Neighborhood
I
told
her
that
the
playing
department
would
handle
the
rezoning
for
her
if
her
neighbor
Miss
Nelly,
Smith
and
tranch
Esther
of
Chester's
barbecue
agreed
together
to
rezone
the
property
so
that
we
wouldn't
need
separate
applications
and
separate
signage
during
the
process.
It
was
originally
five
Lots.
AA
AA
AA
It
was
three
different
property
owners
and
it
was
something
that
they
did
not
do.
We
don't
know
how
it
got
in
C
and
how
it
white
creeps
into
that.
Neighborhood.
We've
done
this
before
on
caseta
Road
East,
Winton
Bellwood
Midtown,
several
areas
where,
if
it's
several
we've
done
in
only
fill
road
or
if
it's
several
property
owners
that
have
a
problem
that
was
not
caused
by
them
but
was
caused
by
zoning,
we've
agreed
to
fix
help
them
fix
it.
O
Well,
I,
the
reason
I'm
asking
the
question
is
I've
run
into
people
recently,
who
have
said
I
wanted
to
do
this
and
they
told
me
yes
as
years
ago
before
your
time
rig
may
have
been
here,
but
the
city
told
me:
I
had
to
go
to
this
rezoning
class
so
now,
I
have
property.
I
want
to
develop
and
I'm
kind
of
stuck
in
this
situation,
because
the
city
made
me
go
there.
If
I
want
to
do
another
type
of
zone,
I
can't
change
it.
O
I'd
have
to
go
back
city
force
them
to
do
is
what
I'm
saying.
In
other
words
we
were
going
to,
we
had
stated
plan
to
widen
the
road,
so
all
along
that
corridor.
We
change
the
zoning
class.
Well,
the
state
decided
not
to
widen
that
road,
so
the
people
own,
the
property
owners,
are
stuck
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
if
that's
the
situation,
then
they
have
the
right
to
come
in.
Just
as
this
situation
is
here
to
petition
you
to
talk
about
that.
O
AB
O
AB
Island
our
track
record
speaks
to
that,
though.
Well,
we
feel
I
see
a
need,
go
back
in
there
and
recapture
an
area
to
get
their
resilient
back
to
its
allright
classification.
We'll
do
that
it's
my
understanding
here
in
this
particular
situation,
though
we
had
one
applicant
come
in
and
we
could
have
easily
said
you
need
to
recent.
You
need
to
file
the
application
fee
and
rezone.
We
also
at
the
same
time,
saw
an
opportunity
to
capture
the
adjacent
Lots
as
well
and
bring
them
in
compliance
with
the
zoning.
AB
AB
We're
working
right
now
and
we've
been
how
we
just
had
a
meeting
last
week
week
before
with
the
folks
in
the
wavelet
terrace
area,
they're,
going
through
some
of
the
same
situations,
we're
trying
to
correct
that
problem
or
problems
as
we
as
we
come
across
them,
and
that's
that's
what
we're
we're
trying
to
do?
We're
not
we're
not
trying
to
hold
anybody
up,
we're
not
trying
to
hold
you
by
a
hostage
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
help
them
we
sort
of
do
so
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank.
X
Right
there
are
no
other
questions
we'll
bring
that
back
in
well
net.
We
can
bring
it
next
week
since
we've
got
a
consent
agenda
for
a
vote.
Next
item
mayor
is
the
revisions
to
the
rabies,
animal
registration
ordinances.
This
was
thought
of
as
a
one-stop-shop
for
rabies
and
city
permits,
but
there
might
be
questions
and
discussion
around
the
table.
It's
on
first
reading
it
off.
Yes,.
K
From
so
my
fellow
councillors,
gonna
know
where
this
came
about.
I
had
a
constituent
in
East
Islands
neighborhood,
who
got
she
called
animal
control
and
she
got
cited.
She
was
calling
on
neighbor
and
they
subsequently
cited
her
dogs
were
inside
and
they
cider
for
not
having
a
city
permit
and
she
said
I,
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
Illinois
SC
perm
is
back
at
my
dog's
rabies
vaccinations
and
she
had
never
basically
been
informed
and
I
started.
Thinking
about
I
went
to
my
vet.
I
had
never
I'd,
never
gotten
to
see
a
permit
either.
K
So
I
got
one
but
had
never
been
brought
up.
So
the
law
is
you're
supposed
to
have
your
city
permit.
Within
seven
days
of
getting
your
rabies,
vaccination
I
had
had
direct
a
short
look
at
the
numbers
and
we
have
tween
on
that,
or
at
least
the
year
we
were
looking
at
it.
I
guess
it
would
been
2016
we
had
29,000
rabies,
vaccinations
permit
issued,
and
then
we
had
19,000
city
permits
issued
that's
a
variance
of
10,000
and
at
the
minimum
fee,
which
is
due
for
the
C
permit.
That's
$10,
a
pop.
K
If
they're,
if
they're
already
spayed
and
it's
a
significant
amount
more
closer
to
a
hundred,
if
they're
unspayed,
basically
we're
looking
at
at
least
$100,000
in
lost
revenue,
the
vets,
if
they
issue
them,
do
get
a
$5
administrative
fee.
So
it's
not
like
they're
losing
money.
By
doing
this
understand,
there's
a
concern
about
this
might
prevent
people
from
going
in
for
a
rabies
vaccination.
But
when
you
think
about
this,
you
know
obviously
a
501
C
3
would
not
be
charging
an
administration
fee
if
they're
doing
the
permit.
K
K
You
know
if,
if
that's
gonna
be
a
prohibitive
issue,
but
right
now
we
know
where
we've
got
at
least
a
hundred
thousand
in
revenue,
probably
more,
which
is
being
lost
so,
and
this
just
makes
it
a
lot
more
simple
for
the
citizen.
They
know
they
have
to
get
the
permit
because
it's
gonna
be
issued.
At
the
same
time,.
P
And
I
appreciate
that
councillor,
Garrett
I
think
I
had
sent
the
request
for
a
perhaps
a
delay
in
simply
because
before
an
ordinance
went
through,
I
would
like
to
hear
I
know.
Paul's
did
have
some
concerns.
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
hear
from
calls
directly.
They
did
sent
an
email
and
also
the
vets
in
the
area
and
just
to
make
sure
everybody's
on
the
same
page.
Maybe
to
get
input
before
the
law
goes
out.
I
would
just
like
to
hear
for
some
people
and
see.
P
If
there
are
any
issues,
we
might
be
missing
that
somebody
else
might
can
shed
some
some
light
on,
but
no
I
understand.
Your
point
is
well-taken.
My
purpose
for
requesting
the
delay
was
just
to
see
if
there
any
other
parties
out
there
that
might
want
to
bring
some
information
to
the
table
before
we
put
it
into
law.
So
it
does
and
I
mean
that's
a
request
for
a
delay.
I,
don't
know.
If
counsel
wants
to
proceed
I'm
it's
the
first
reading.
Anybody
can
speak
anyway.
P
X
X
B
AC
Good
evening,
I'm
joy,
Humphries,
I'm
deputy
director
with
paws
humane,
and
it
is
our
understanding
that
the
ordinance
revision
would
require
pet
owners
to
purchase
the
license
when
they
received
their
rabies.
Vaccination
and
it's
it's
our
position
that
it
could
negatively
impact
the
number
of
pet
owners
that
would
bring
their
animals
to
get
rabies
shots
at,
for
instance,
a
pause,
human
free
vaccine
clinic
our
constituents
on
that
use.
Our
services
are
very
price
sensitive,
and
so,
although
we
do
support
the
mandatory
licenses,
we
would
request
that
it
not
be
a
attached
to
the
rabies
vaccine.
F
AC
B
P
X
AC
That's
correct
when
we
intake
an
animal
at
the
shelter
they're,
given
their
vaccinations
at
that
time
for
animals
that
are
brought
into
the
shelter
and
when
the
animals
are
adopted
out,
then
the
owner
would
be
charged
the
additional
fee
at
that
time.
We
do
understand
that
correct.
Absolutely
we
do
free
adoption.
Events
to
you
know
help
rotate
the
animals
out,
and
you
know
help
our
our
friends
at
the
Animal,
Care
and
Control,
and
so
we
pull
animals
from
there.
AD
AC
The
fees,
what
are
the
charges?
They
actually
vary
based
on
the
age
and
type
of
animal,
so,
for
instance,
an
adult
cat
is
$25.
So
by
adding
it's
a
6mv,
a
60%
increase.
If
we
were
to
add
the
the
fee
on
to
that,
an
adult
or
a
puppy,
for
instance,
is
$125
adoption
fee.
So
it
varies
based
on
the
animal
depending.
AD
Is
this
n'?
Let
me
give
my
thoughts.
I,
the
vaccine,
that
they
have
to
do
is
a
state
law,
so
you
implement
interplanet
because
of
the
state.
So
if
we
were
to
do
it
you
and
then
when
turn
would
do
the
same
thing
that
you
do
for
the
state,
because
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
a
count
of
count
ability
of
the
animals
because
we
get
so
many
complaints
of
street
animals
on
the
road.
We
can't
find
them.
AD
I
mean
we're,
not
gonna,
make
everybody
happy,
but
if
we
can
kind
of
control
it
and
get
a
50/50
between
our
constituents
that
support
animals
and
our
constituents
that
don't
want
to
see
them
out
in
their
neighborhoods
that
it
that's
one
of
the
reason
why
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
an
important
piece
that
I
think
that
people
should
be
educated
on
when
you
adopt
or
you
buy
a
dog.
It's
like
a
part
of
your
family.
So
you
have
to
account
for
the
vet
visits
and
any
other.
AD
You
know
any
other
thing
that
comes
along
with
it,
because
that
that's
now
become
a
responsibility
and
part
of
the
budget
and
a
family
I
think
it
could
be
also
an
educational
piece.
I'm,
not
saying
it's
good,
it's
bad,
but
I
am
speaking
for
those
that
would
feel
like.
Okay,
we
need
accountability
because
I
see
this
dog
here,
I
see
that
all
running
over
here
and
then
when
we
go
pick
them
up.
Nobody
knows
right.
AC
And-
and
we
do
agree,
obviously,
when
someone
adopts
an
animal,
it
does
become
part
of
their
family
and
we
are
very
careful
when
we
make
our
matches
so
that
we
do
place
the
animal
in
the
right
home.
But
again
it's
an
additional
fee
that
basically
the
veterinarians
and
veterinary
clinics
and
the
shelters
such
as
ours.
We
become
the
enforcers
by
attaching
it
to
the
vaccine.
We
we
agree
that
they
should
be
licensed,
but
that
it
should
not
be
attached
to
the
vaccine
because
then
again,
it
makes
us
the
enforcers
and
the
veterinarians.
Then.
AD
AC
Do
we
do
we
do
it
over?
We
do
offer
the
option
when
the
animal
is
adopted.
We
do
offer
and
suggest
that
they
obtain
the
license,
but
we
do
not
it's
not
a
requirement.
So
I
mean
our
that's
our
participation.
As
we
tell
them,
it
is
mandatory.
They
can
go
right
next
door
based
on
where
we're
located
to
Animal,
Care
and
Control
and
get
their
license.
So
that's
that's
our
process
and.
AD
C
L
AD
AC
Know
I'm,
actually,
when
an
animal
is
in
foster
care,
it
is
actually
owned
by
the
shelter.
So
it
does
belong
to
the
shelter
and
of
course
they
have
their
vaccinations.
But
again
the
the
license
is
not
required
until
it
would
actually
be
adopted,
so
the
foster
parents
would
not
be
responsible
for
that.
Okay
from
my
understanding,
thank
you.
M
AE
The
first
thing
I
would
like
to
remind
the
council
is
that
this
is
not
a
new
law.
Animal
registration
has
been
on
the
books
since
the
day
that
we
took
over
animal
control
from
the
state.
It
is
your
registration
for
your
animals,
it
is
a
part
of
the
law,
as
it
is
written
right
now.
The
only
thing
and
councillor
Garrett
is
absolutely
correct
in
stating
is
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
people
who
just
absolutely
choose
not
to
follow
the
law,
and
it
is
the
law,
whether
it's
state
or
local.
AE
It's
still
the
law,
and
because
of
that,
we've
got
a
large
variation
of
people
who
do
not
get
their
animals
registered
and
they
come
in
and
we
have
no
way
of
knowing
who
owns
the
animals.
So
this
will
also
help
us
in
being
able
to
identify
those
animal
owners.
Now,
I
will
say
back
in
the
late
90s,
not
late.
90S
early
90s
I
remember
distinctly
that
we
started
going
door-to-door
checking
for
people
for
their
registration
and
they
were
outraged,
and
so
we
had
to
stop
that
practice.
M
AE
What
they
need
that's
correct
and
as
it
stands
right
now,
anybody
can
go
to
16
I.
Believe
this
18
veterinary
note
how
many
16
local
veterinarians
currently
are
a
part
of
what
we
call
the
one-stop-shop
animal
registration
service,
which
means
that
they
can
go
to
their
vet,
get
their
rabies
tag
and
pick
up
their
registration
all.
AE
At
the
same
time,
the
veterinarian
that
administers
the
rabies
and
sells
a
tag
can
charge
their
customer
up
to
$5
as
an
administrative
fee
for
handling
the
registration
aspects
of
the
animal
and
we
go
around
and
we
pick
up
from
all
of
these
veterinarians
on
a
monthly
basis.
We
do
it
now
and
then
what
about
pause
pauses
chosen
not
to
sell,
even
though
it
could
be
a
small
revenue
stream
is
still
a
revenue
stream
if
they
decided
to
sell
them.
M
I'm,
looking
for
less
is
there
something
we
can
do
without
sending
the
owner
next
door?
Can
we
do
it?
You
know
at
paws
or
whatever,
but
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
and
and
I
also
understand.
You
know
pause
point
that
they
don't
want
to
be
the
enforcer
that
that's
not
their
role
to
enforce
city
codes
and
laws.
I
understand
that,
so
we
just
whatever
we
do.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
it
meets
the
it
meets
the
end
that
we're
trying
to
reach
I.
Guess
that's
what
I'm
saying
correct.
X
B
AF
AF
The
concern
is
is
if
we
have
a
client
that
comes
in
and
we
quote
them
for
their
rabies
vaccinations
and
then
we
add
on
the
mandatory
city
permit
and
they
would
like
to
decline
it.
Then,
where
do
the
veterinarians?
You
know?
Where
do
we
go
from
there
because
we
should
administer
the
rabies
vaccinations
then
are
reliable
for
that
fee?
L
M
If
we,
if
you
you
had
someone
who
did
that
and
miss
short,
you
may
want
to
chime
in
on
this
too.
But
if,
if
I
declined
and
you
had
the
form
and
you
wrote,
declined
on
there
and
you
gave
that
to
the
animal
control,
then
couldn't
Animal
Control
follow
up,
and
only
your
only
obligation
would
be
the
form
that
says
you
offered
it,
but
they
declined
it
right.
Would.
AF
That
work
I
feel
that
that
would
work,
and
that's
that
would
help
us
in
letter
G,
where
it
talks
about
that
we
would
be
providing
the
services
and
it
kind
of
I
guess
makes
us
feel
like
we're.
The
ones
that
are
you
know
obligated
and
response
when
veterinarians
are
gonna,
try
to
follow
exactly
what
is
asked
of
us,
so
that
clarification
would
be
very
helpful.
Miss.
AE
What
do
you
think
I
am
all
for
that?
I
just
would
like
to
remind
the
veterinarian
community
that
when
we
did
the
door-to-door
back
in
the
late
80s,
they
asked
us
where
we
got
the
list
from
well,
we
get
it
from
the
rabies
registration,
and
so
they
started
calling
their
veterinarians
complaining
about
the
fact
that
we
were
given
this
information,
even
though
by
law
they
have
to,
but
I
am
NOT
opposed
to
that
at
all.
We
be
more
than
glad
to
do
that,
because.
L
AE
AE
M
AF
Then,
just
also
like
at
our
hospital
we
always
when
we
print
out
a
rabies
vaccine.
We
always
print
out
a
voucher
for
the
city
permits
and
it's
right
on
right
on
top
of
their
rabies
certificate.
So
as
far
as
somebody,
not
knowing
that
they're
not
looking
at
their
paperwork
at
all,
then
then
they
would
not
and
I
feel
that
that
has
been
fairly
successful,
at
least
putting
the
responsibility
back
to
the
owner.
As
a
suggestion,
good.
X
AD
X
B
AD
Want
to
add
to
that
before
I
was
gonna,
bring
it
up.
I
wanted
to
add
on
that
after
I
listened
to
the
veterinarian,
where
she
says
she
prints
out
and
puts
it
on
top
that
that'd
be
a
requirement
for
all
veterinarians
and
paws
to
print
out
that
and
put
it,
give
it
to
the
the
person
and
also
wherever
the
decline
is
so
that
they
know
that
we
are
going
to
contact
them.
You
decline
it
at
this
moment,
but
that
is
the
law,
so
we
are
going
to
contact.
AD
You
I
think
that
was
an
excellent
suggestion
that
they
use
and
I
think
that
was
a
wonderful
compromise
to
it
so
I
like
to
amend
it.
They
also
add
that
statement
on
top
of
the
receipt
when
they
give
it
to
the
individual
there
they
have
to
you
know,
if
not
with
them,
they
still
have
to
register
the
dog,
because
it
is
off
any
problems
with
that
counselor
Thomas
care.
X
M
B
L
X
X
B
K
X
P
P
X
That
would
be
the
Bunya
director
taking
the
amount
of
the
costs
that
are
levied
to
clean
up
the
law.
A
piece
of
papers
of
the
clerk's
office
put
it
on
the
general
execution
docket,
which
is
a
book
of
judgments
in
the
clerk's
office
and
after
that
point
it
can
be
collected
in
the
future.
But
it's
got
to
be
recorded
as
an
execution
in
the
clerk's
office.
P
X
X
P
X
Z
And
I
know
you
just
answered
that
that
was
my
question
too.
I
commend
councillor,
Garrett
I,
think
this
is
long
overdue
and
given
our
codes
and
enforcement,
the
right
to
fix
the
problem
instead
of
just
chasing
because
of
it
and
for
a
long
time,
we've
had
to
do
that.
But
I
was
concerned
as
well
about
thee
about
the
timeline
and,
if
you're
comfortable,
with
the
fact
that
it
scared
me
not
having
a
very
legal
mind.
It
scared
me
looking
to
that
so
saying.
Z
In
the
thirty
days,
I
started
talking
about
a
sale
to
satisfy
the
lien
I,
initially
thought
that
maybe
we
we
put
a
couple
of
different
levels,
we're
on
the
first
offense
if
they,
if
we
had
to
put
a
lien
on
cuz,
something
like
that
typically
is
going
to
be
recurring,
where
you
end
up
having
to
go
back
out
there.
If
they
don't
fix
it,
you're
going
to
put
an
additional
lien
on
there
and
I
can
see
where,
in
some
of
these
instances,
these
things
will
mount
up
and
I.
Z
Think
after
they've
become
a
regular
nuisance
and
I
know.
Oh
man
we've
had
some
serious
conversations
with
folks
in
the
land
bank
about
the
fact
that
there
needs
to
be
a
funding
mechanism
for
just
chronically
blighted
properties,
but
but
I
get
a
little
nervous
when
I,
when
I
see
anything
to
do
with
condemnation
and
I
guess
I'm
kind
of
like
counselor
Baker
I
just
want
to
make
certain
that
we're
not
going
to
administrative
leave
three
days
in
to
initiate
a
process
that
may
only
take
another
six
months
to
the
culmination
in
a
seizure
know.
X
X
Summons
to
recorders,
court
and
a
lot
of
times,
the
problem
is
corrected
after
somebody
has
cited
in
recorders
court,
but
but
if
it's
not,
the
last
resort
would
be
to
clean
the
property
clean,
the
pond
whatever
it
is
and
then
place
a
lien
on
the
property
and
an
execution
could
issue
and
down
the
road.
It
could
be
sold.
Okay,.
Z
And
and
I
guess
this
also
to
ask
counselor
Gary
this
includes,
if
there's
a
swimming
pool
in
the
backyard
of
an
abandoned
property
or
a
property
that
stood
vacant
for
a
long
time.
Now,
even
if
they
drain
it,
the
rainwater
will
recollect
and
it
becomes
a
breeding
ground
for
mosquitoes
it.
It
kind
of
harasses
the
entire
neighborhood
I
guess
that
would
count
to
not
just
ponds
or
not
just
okay
by
you
know
and
I
and
frankly,
I'm.
Z
Okay,
with
the
idea
as
an
ultimate
last-ditch
effort
seizing
the
property,
because
my
feeling
is
this
is
going
to
help
us
a
lot
with
properties
that
have
stood
vacant
for
dozens
of
years
and
nobody's
stepped
up
to
try
to
take
ownership
and
and
for
all
we
know
there
may
not
be
any
surviving
owners
left.
So
I
I'm,
fine
with
it
I
just
got
a
little
nervous
about
seeing
the
seizure
park.
O
AD
X
It's
pretty
clear:
they
first
got
a
recorder
score,
then
they
get
a
notice
from
the
Health
Officer
and
then
they
get
another
certified
mail
notice
about
how
to
correct
it.
If
it's
not
corrected
within
10
days,
then
the
director
of
Public
Works
can
have
the
work
performed,
and
that
constitutes
a
lien
against
the
property
and
if
it's
not
paid
within
30
days,
the
finance
director
can
issue
an
execution
and
those.
O
O
O
X
Do
you
need
them,
because
if
you
can't
find
a
local
owner,
they've
got
to
go
and
issue
under
the
state
laws
that
also
interplay
with
us
and
address
notice
that
the
address
shown
and
the
tax
records
with
a
copy
to
the
occupant?
If
there
is
one
if
it's
commercial,
but
you
do
need
the
help
officer.
We've
talked
to
the
Health
Department
lawyer
about
it.
They're.
Ok,
with
this
language,
I
mean.
AD
X
O
That's
my
question:
is
we
had
a
situation
where,
for
for
almost
a
year,
I
mean
city
manager
had
to
get
involved?
He
hadn't
gotten
involved,
I,
don't
know
where
we
would
be
right
now
with
this
situation,
because
I
had
a
constituent
called
me
over
a
period
of
months,
so
we
were
trying
to
get
a
situation
resolved
like
this,
and
it
was
a
horrible
and
there
was
a
child.
O
A
nine
year
old
child
lived
there
with
a
daughter,
the
mother
owned
the
house,
and
what
another
thing
I
want
us
to
address
in
this
ordinance,
too,
is
what
would
happen
when
they
would
with
the
city
would
cite
him.
The
mother
would
go
and
pay
the
early
without
going
to
recorders
court.
She
didn't.
She
never
went
recorders
court,
so
the
environmental
court
never
got
to
see
her.
She
would
circumvent
the
law,
so
we
need
to
take
the
ability
to
go
in
and
pay
the
bond
or
whatever
that
situation
is
early
a
way.
O
X
O
O
X
O
L
AD
X
Yes,
the
next
step
is
the
health
officer
at
the
health
department
would
notify
the
owner
at
the
last
known
address
on
the
tax
records
with
a
copy
to
any
occupant,
and
they
have
to
send
that
by
certified
mail
and
tell
them
what
to
do
to
abate
the
nuisance
and
if
they
don't
do
it
within
10
days,
the
Director
of
Public
Works
has
the
work
done
to
clean
it
up.
Well,.
AD
X
AD
X
AD
AD
If
the
court
is
trying
to
do
whatever
they
do
to
appoint
somebody
or
or
make
clarification
of
who
really
owns
the
property
or
not,
they
would
be
the
ones
that
make
the
decision
based
on
this.
If
we
gave
this
to
them
and
said
hey,
we
want
this
property
now,
because
a
B,
C
and
D,
then
the
courts
will
have
to
honor
this
ordinance.
AD
X
The
courts
would
I'm
sure
help
us
with
the
enforcement.
If
there's
an
executor
that
we
find
out
about,
then
help
officer
or
miss
short
is
going
to
take
them
the
same
certified
letter
and
say
this
has
got
to
be
cleaned
up.
If
not
we're
gonna
put
a
lien
on
the
property
and
then
normally
the
executor
would
take
care
of
it.
So.
AD
The
judge
would
then,
in
turn,
could
say:
let's
say,
there's
nobody
and
they're
getting
ready
to
make
someone
the
executor
once
the
judge
makes
them
an
executor
him
or
her.
He
would
then
and
advise
them.
Okay.
This
is
now
in
play.
You
have
to
comply
with
this
or
you
were
going
to
lose
the
property.
Even
though
I
just
made
you
the
executor
of
that
piece
of
property.
The.
AD
New
executor,
yes,
I
like
the
idea
but
I'm
a
little
concerned:
I,
don't
I'm,
not
sure
about
it.
I
need
to
talk
to
him
Garret
later
I'm
a
little
uneasy
with
it.
I
understand
the
concept
and
I
think
it's
good,
but
I'm
a
little
concerned
because
it's
almost
like
domain
and
we
kind
of
try
to
stay
away
from
that.
So
can
we
just
meet
later
and
discuss
it
a
little
bit
more
because
right
now,
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
support
it.
I
think
we've.
P
And
I
will
talk
about
the
second
with
councillor.
Alan
was
talking
about
because
I
was
helping
somebody
on
a
environmental
court
issue
and
we
were
told
that
once
the
summons
was
issued,
it
did
not
have
a
dollar
amount
on
it,
that
you
could
go
down
and
pay,
and
at
that
point
it
was
transferred
to
the
judicial
branch,
and
the
judge
is
the
only
one
that
had
jurisdiction
over
and
you
had
to
appear
before
that
judge
and
I
went
down.
There
watched
a
couple
of
cases
in
the
ones
who
did
not
appear.
P
He
issued
a
bench
warrant
the
arrest
and
unless
you
call-
and
the
judge
gives
you
permission
to
go
pay
it
well,
we
were
told
he
you
had
to
appear
in
court.
There
was
no
dollar
amount
on
there
that
you
could
just
circumvent,
go
to
a
window
and
pay
you
know
until
until
after
the
court
case
was
adjudicated.
You
know,
judge
issue
define
but
pre,
but
before
that
there
wasn't
a
dollar
amount
on
the
citation.
It
was
a
summons
to
appear
and
those
did
not
appear.
X
O
B
X
We
will
attempt
to
do
that,
bring
it
back
for
a
vote
at
next
week's
meeting.
Then
the
next
last
item
Meier,
is
the
resolution
recognizing
members
of
the
Ben
Davis
senior
family,
for
their
unparalleled
service
to
the
United
States
and
of
their
communities.
I
think
there
is
an
event
that's
coming
up
while
they
wanted
to
have
this
tonight.
B
Come
forward
yes,
mr.
Davis,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
patience
and
Eileen
as
well.
I,
please
come
forward
here
to
the
the
podium
our
Mayor
Pro
Tem
is
going
to
read
the
resolution
and,
if
you'd
like
to
yes,
you
can
come
up
here
to
get
better
pictures.
Thank
you
for
your
patience,
I'm.
So
very
sorry,
you
have
had
to
wait
so
long
to
be
recognized,
but
we
very
much
appreciate
you
being
here
and
we're
going
to
turn
it
over
to
our
Mayor
Pro
Tem
and
allow
her
to
read
this
resolution
into
the
record.
AG
Whereas
to
this
day
13
of
the
16
Davis
children
stay
close
and
organized
Aylmer
family
units
across
the
United
States
where's,
the
accomplishments
of
the
Ben
Davis
single
family
or
word.
The
special
recognition
is
council.
Now,
therefore,
the
council
of
columbus
georgia
hero
resolves,
we
have
got
a
command
command
the
date,
the
members
of
the
dangerous,
build
overseeing
a
family
for
their
unparalleled
service
to
this
country
and
to
their
communities
and
let
Akaka
this
resolution
we
forward
to
each
of
their
broad
named
Davis,
family
members
and
I
move
this
adoption
all.
AG
AH
L
AH
Served
30
years,
10
years,
Navy
and
then
20
years
Marines,
and
he
will
be
here
from
next
Monday
next
month.
It
will
be
a
celebration
for
the
family
out
at
the
infantry
museum
and
we're
gonna
put
pavers
on
the
ground
too,
for
the
largest
family
to
have
ever
been
in
the
military,
and
anybody
can
talk
11
blood
brothers
in
the
military,
I'd
love
to
see
them.
AH
L
B
All
right
we
are
moving
on
now
we
have
our
public
agenda,
and
so
we
want
to
turn
it
over
to
our
citizens,
who
would
like
to
address
Council
and
first
we
have
mr.
Jackson
Turner,
who
would
like
to
speak
to
us
about
property
taxes.
Sir,
if
you
come
up
to
the
podium,
he'll
have
two
five
minutes
sessions,
and
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
mark
your
time.
Do
it
and
also
state
your
name
and
address
my.
AI
Name
and
address
okay,
Jackson
Turner,
3766,
Forest,
Road,
Columbus
Georgia.
Now
everybody
knows
my
address.
He
thinks.
Okay,
that's
that's
not
a
good
thing,
but
thank
you
anyway.
Okay,
you
know,
y'all
been
going
on
for
like
an
hour
and
a
half
about
property
taxes,
I
heard
so
much
about
it,
there's
no
way,
I'm
gonna!
Thank
you
through
ten
minutes
of
this,
a
lot
of
what
I
was
going
to
talk
about
was
covered
in
what
was
already
discussed.
So
I'm,
just
gonna
flip
through
to
see
was
what
wasn't
covered.
AI
If
you
don't
mind,
it's
got
a
nice
speech.
Written
was
gonna,
go
through
the
whole
thing,
there's
just
no
point
in
it.
So
first
of
all,
my
tax
increase
was
three
thousand
twenty
percent
on
one
property:
okay,
not
one
thousand,
not
five
hundred
three
thousand
twenty
percent.
Okay,
that's
not
a
small
amount.
Yes,
there
was
a
mistake
made.
Somebody
finally
said
the
word
mistake:
okay,
yes,
it
was
a
mistake,
made
I'm
speaking
from
a
information
technology
perspective.
AI
What
I
came
down
here
for
was
say:
let's
talk
about
this
from
an
information
technology's
perspective,
not
we're
all
mad
about
our
tax.
It's
okay,
I've,
been
in
information
technology
for
23
years.
Okay,
when
we
got
our
notices,
I
was
like
you
know
what
somebody
made
a
mistake:
okay,
a
huge
mistake,
so
I
think
someone
says
gee
thanks
for
something.
Finally
saying
we
made
a
mistake,
we
made
mistake:
okay,.
AI
Compared
with
me,
cuz
most
everything
else
that
was
discussed,
it
was
already
taken
care
of
I.
Think
somebody
brought
up
the
fact
why
don't
we
do
a
comparison
before
we
rolled
out
live?
You
know
what
it's
called
a
negative
test
right
and
the
information
technology
world.
That's
like
a
negative
test.
You
test
what
you
do
to
see
if
it
makes
sense.
Okay,
compare
your
data,
it's
not
that
hard!
I!
Think
I
heard
some
I
say
we
wait.
This
software
doesn't
work.
So
we
can't
do
that.
AI
You
know
what
then
later
on
they
were
giving
you
example
after
example,
where
they
compared
so
either
they
can
compare
or
they
can
they
gave
they
were
given.
You
said:
well,
we
have
this
many
that
had
this
we're
off
by
this
much,
and
this
made
it
Roth
by
this
much-
and
this
mean
revolt
by
this
much
but
early
on,
they
said.
Well,
we
really
can't
compare
the
software
is
not
compatible.
We
can't
compare
so
an
hour
into
the
conversation
that
could
compare
15
minutes
of
the
conversation.
It
doesn't
work.
AI
We
can't
compare
so,
which
is
it
you
know
they
could
have
compared
the
data.
They
could
have
said.
Here's
what
the
taxes
are
last
year.
Here's
what
the
taxes
are
this
year
taking
one
day
apply
standard
deviations,
simple
statistical,
Veda,
address
taxes,
address
taxes,
standard
deviation,
you're
off
by
a
factor
of
15
something's
wrong.
It
could
have
been
done
to
begin
with,
it
doesn't
have,
they
didn't,
have
to
wait
and
just
drop
the
bomb
on
us
and
essentially
that's
what
they
did.
They
made
a
huge
mistake:
they
failed
to
test
the
software.
AI
They
they
just
not.
They
did
not
test
it.
I'm
telling
you
after
23
years,
I
know
they
didn't
test
it.
Somebody
needs
to
go
to
them
and
say.
Show
me
your
test
plan
show
me
your
test.
Land
show
me.
Your
implementation
plan
show
me
your
test
plan
and
show
me
your
results
now,
after
our
technologies
is
watching
this
right
now,
they're
panic
because
they're
going,
we
don't
have
a
test
plan.
We
don't
have
test
results.
Okay,
that's
like
it's
like
a
six-year-old
doing
your
long-form
okay.
If
they
can't
produce
the
test
pen
they've
got
nothing.
AI
Okay,
you
need
to
go
ask
for
your
money
back
if
they
can't
produce
the
test.
If
they
can't
say
here
is
a
test
plan,
here's
an
implementation
plan,
here's
our
positive
testing,
here's
our
negative
testing
here
is
all
this
testing.
If
they
can't
go
and
give
it
to
you,
don't
get
your
money
back,
because
that's
that's
the
minimum
standard.
Okay,
this
there's
a
minimum
standard
for
this
kind
of
thing,
and
that
is
beneath
the
standard.
Okay,
I,
don't
know
how
many
millions
are
paid,
but
I'm
telling
you.
AI
If
you
can't
get
a
test
plan
and
test
results
and
see
them,
you
got
ripped
off.
That's
just
that's
it!
Okay!
This
is
because
that's
there's
2,000
frictional
programs
in
the
city,
they'll
tell
you
the
same
thing:
y'all
got
burned
bad.
If
you
can't
get
a
test
plan
test
results
in
your
face.
Okay
and
that's
the
truth,.
AI
B
AI
Well,
tell
you
I'm,
just
I'm
telling
you
straight
up:
they,
you
know
what
they
didn't
meet
a
minimum
standard
power
consultant
to
go
behind
them
and
see
what
they
did.
You
know
you.
It
seems
like
they're,
a
part
and
separate
from
the
Columbus
consolidated
government.
You
know
they
have
to
walk
in
here
with
an
attorney
beside
of
which
makes
me
spooky
automatically.
You
know
if
you
didn't
do
anything
wrong.
Why
you're
walking
around
with
an
attorney
beside
you?
Okay,
so
that
just
jumped
it
caught
my
I'll
say
that.
AI
AI
You
know
what
I
think
what
I
need
to
do
is
I
mean
I
can
look
in
great
detail
at
what
was
said
here
and
compared
to
what
I've
written,
because
I
could
probably
come
back
next
time
around
and
give
you
a
lot
of
information
about
the
truth
about
the
smoke
and
mirrors
part
and
kind
of
just
set
you
straight
because
really,
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
missing
and
I'm
just
gonna
leave
it
at
that.
Can
I
see
you
next
time
on
the
same
topic,
sure
absolutely.
L
B
AI
B
AI
B
AI
B
You
can
send
us
an
email,
okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on,
we
have
mr.
Christopher
Reyes.
Oh
I
think
he
actually
left.
I
did
see
him
here
earlier,
so
I'm
sure
he'll
be
back
on
another
day.
Mr.
mr.
Paul
Olsen,
who
would
like
to
talk
about
the
estate
tax,
Commissioner
property
taxes,
tax
penalties
and
tax
abatement,
hello.
V
At
the
podium,
my
name
is
Paul
Wilson
I
live
at
one
three.
Eight
three
zero
eupatoria
Lane
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised
when
Judy
Thomas
was
asking
the
questions
about
the
vote
and
they
said
well,
we
told
clifton
faith,
the
city
attorney,
I'm
taking
well
one
more
time,
yet
the
information
blindsided
me
guys
it
was
embarrassing.
I
thought
let's
go
to.
We
never
needed
Tylar
technologies.
We
never
needed
to
spend
that
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
and
we
all
need
to
pay
one
hundred.
V
V
That's
what
walker
garrett
was
talking
about,
the
several
other
of
the
other
we
were
talking
about
it
and
the
thing
is
is
like
I
said
before
out
and
you
Kotori,
they
don't
factor
in
the
noise
they
didn't
factor
in
so
many
other
things
like
bank
foreclosures,
short
sales
is
also
worth
you
need
to
look
at
the
computations
Senate
bill.
346
allows
you
and
everybody
else
out
there
to
look
at
this,
and
the
thing
is:
is
it
needs
to
be
up
on
their
website?
V
V
Henderson
I
gave
that
to
tiny
Washington.
It
says
no
in
homestead
exemption.
You
can
go
back
25
years
on
my
property
and
the
thing
is
I
didn't
know
about
it,
because
people
said
we'll.
Have
you
failed
to
do
this
to
yourself,
Paul
and
I
said
well,
because
my
taxes
didn't
go
up,
I
thought
everything
was
frozen
and
so
didn't
everybody
else,
all
that
1564
property
owners.
V
V
They
talked
about
regulations,
John,
Williams
and
I.
Go
back
to
the
rules
of
Department
of
Revenue,
chapter
560,
11
to
local
government
services
and
division
underneath
see
audit
selection
criteria,
which
I
gave
to
you
tiny.
So
you
can
also
make
copies
to
each
and
every
one
of
you
out
there.
It
says
the
appraisal,
staff,
shell
and
Shaw
means
must
and
Barron's
legal
terms.
V
You
know
that
all
your
lawyers
up
there,
okay,
recommend
to
the
Board
of
Tax,
Assessors,
I've,
review
and
audit
selection
criteria
and
the
appraisal
staff
shall
follow
such
criteria
when
adopted
by
the
board,
and
now
you
say
and
I
know,
his
argument
will
be
well,
it's
an
audit
criteria.
You
guys
have
to
audit
all
the
departments.
This
is
an
inventory
that
they
have
so
basically,
in
essence,
are
they're
auditing.
This
the
criteria
should
be
designed
to
maximize
the
number
of
personal
property
returns
that
may
be
reviewed
our
audited
with
existing
resources.
V
The
criteria
should
be
fair,
unbiased
and
developed
consistent
with
the
requirements
of
Code,
section
48
days,
5
to
99,
all
personal
property
accounts
should,
and
the
word
should
in
the
army-
and
this
is
army
regulations,
and
this
is
their
regulations
that
they
have
to
abide
by
is
imperative
and
I
hope
you
guys
understand
what
the
word
should
is.
Imperative
means
it's
a
command
should
as
a
command.
It
isn't
like.
Well,
it's
a
recommendation.
Like
the
city,
the
Randy,
wrote
Lomax
said
be
reviewed.
It
and
it
says,
should
be
reviewed
or
audited.
V
At
least
once
every
three
years
gave
that
to
tiny,
okay
and
it's
highlighted
and
failure
to
adopt
the
plan
is
misfeasance.
When
I
went
to
the
Tax
Assessors
board
yesterday,
I
asked
them:
do
you
have
a
plan
and
Chester
Randolph?
The
chairman
said
no,
we
don't
I
said
well.
When
do
you
plan
on
implement
it?
Well,
I,
don't
know
when
and
I
said
wait.
V
Could
you
give
me
a
time
frame
and
they
said
I
can't
do
it
because
then
you'll
hold
it
to
me
and
I'm
by
God
I
had
three
company
commands
at
a
pataga
man,
and
if
you
said
that
to
me
and
if
I
said
that's
a
might
one
of
my
boss
is
a
brigade
commander.
He'd
fire
me
is
so
fast.
Just
like
you
said:
Gary
Allen.
If
this
is
the
corporate
world,
you'd
be
fired
right
there
on
the
spot.
V
Well,
just
what,
because
they're
not
consistent
with
what
their
duties
were
and
they
failed
to
perform
those
duties.
It
is
your
obligation,
as
a
city
council,
to
remove
each
and
every
one
of
those
members
and
I'm
asking
you
to
date
to
remove
them
for
misfeasance.
Then
I
also
gave
you
tiny
a
situation
with
John
Williams.
Let
me
give
you
a
little
bit
of
his
criteria
about
that.
John
Williams
basically,
was
the
deputy
tax.
Commissioner.
V
V
You
cannot
be
in
a
dune
capacity,
so
violation
of
the
city
charter
and
it's
a
violation
of
the
ocg
a
forty
eight
days,
five
days
to
nine,
to
which
I
gave
to
tiny.
That's
evidence.
I
want
you
to
make
a
copy
for
each
and
every
one
of
you
to
understand
that
he
was
in
total
violations
and
everyone
Chester
Randolph,
said
well
he's
not
political
guess
what,
when
it
was
coming
to
lifting
the
property
tax
freeze
again,
I
gave
you
information
that
says
the
committee
to
lift
the
property
tax
freeze.
V
He
was
on
that
website
and
his
picture
was
on
that
and
when
you
have
a
picture
on
a
website
endorsing
lifting
the
property
tax
freeze,
then
you
become
a
political
activist
and
he
is
in
violation
of
his
oats,
because
his
oath
says
that
he
has
to
be
impartial
in
his
demeanor.
Well,
that's
not
being
impartial,
that's
being
a
political
activist,
so
therefore
I'm
giving
you
grounds
on
both
those
people
and
all
the
other
people
involved
of
not
doing
their
jobs
and,
lastly,
and
I'll.
Let
you
go
at
this
on
their
website.
V
Okay,
this
is
their
website
to
tackle
another
website.
It
says
this
is
an
underneath:
their
mission
statement
and
their
primary
responsibilities.
The
County
Appraisal
staff
shall
be
responsible
for
preparing
annual
assessments
on
all
property
required
to
be
assessed
by
the
Board
of
Assessors.
Now
it's
telling
you
time
and
time
again
that
they
failed
to
do
their
job
and
guess
what
we
are
picking
up:
the
penalties
and
the
fees,
because
mine
was
three
hundred
and
sixty
percent
I'm
paying
for
their
mistake.
You
know
if
you
take
twenty
five
years
times.
V
Three
percent
I
have
a
real
estate
license
guys
it
should
go
up
and
you
do
to
skip
by
god.
Property
I,
don't
know.
If
you
take
twenty
five
and
a
three
sixty
it's
about
twelve
thirteen
percent.
I,
don't
know
any
property
around
here.
There
are
praises
like
that,
especially
when
it's
sitting
next
to
Fort
Benning
and
getting
bombed
on
a
daily
basis
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning.
Okay,
ain't
gonna
happen
guys.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
happen
and
in
my
son,
ross11
Henderson
and
then
I
gave
you
a
thing
of
Paul
prices.
V
His
was
three
thousand
percent
and
we
got
that
much
of
a
variance
and
disparity
from
360
to
eleven
hundred
to
three
thousand
and
they
don't
say
that
they
have
a
problem
by
God.
Yes,
they
have
a
problem,
it's
called
incompetency
because
they
didn't
do
their
job
and
come
up
and
sniffle
because
they
said
they
were
short
on
staff.
Well,
it
looks
like
they're
very
diligent
about
getting
these
pills
reviewed
and
they
don't
want
it
too.
So
it'll
be
overturned,
and
so
they
had
to
adjust.
Now,
where
was
their
Dylan's
diligence
before?
B
U
B
Z
You
mayor
I
proved
that
these
comments
aren't
really
to
the
motion,
but
with
regards
to
the
traffic
situation
out,
there
I
know
my
councillor
out
there.
Glen
Davis
has
been
doing
a
pretty
good
job
of
trying
to
get
get
information,
but
there's
already
a
tremendous
amount
of
backup
and
congestion
right
there,
Fortson
in
Williams
Road
because
of
the
four-way
stop
I,
know
that
there's
a
roundabout,
planned
and
I
also
know
that
there's
traffic
improvements
planned
up
at
the
interchange,
with
185
and
during
peak
track
during
regular
day
time
hours.
Z
It's
not
too
bad,
but
during
traffic,
it's
awful
speaking,
both
as
a
council
member
and
as
a
constituent
out
there
I
would
love
to
get
it.
Just
a
quick
update.
I
know
we've
had
one
recently,
but
in
light
of
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
put
some
additional
curb
cuts
and
encourage
development
out,
there
I
think
it's
kind
of
important
that
we
try
to
expedite
some
of
those
traffic
improvements.
Okay,
we.
U
B
B
B
M
City
manager-
this
is
the
intersection
just
right
here-
is
that
correct
and
I
know
that
it
that
G
dot
would
have
done
a
traffic
study
or
so
forth.
Could
we
have
a
little
report
on
that
or
what's
what
what
did
they
find?
I
mean?
My
purpose
is
from
185
getting
on
Macon
road
at
185
to
Rigdon
Road.
There
are
already
several
traffic
signals
and
so
I'm
wondering
about.
Why
are
we
putting
another
one
here.
AJ
AJ
So
then
they
started
looking
at
different
ways
to
address
that
and
along
with
that,
they
were
looking
at
pedestrian
traffic
as
well,
because
a
lot
of
people
apparently
walk
from
this
area
across
Macon
Road
go
into
some
of
the
restaurants
to
eat
or
to
the
drugstore,
and
so
they
were
trying
to
improve
safety
for
pedestrian
crossings
as
well.
So
this
is
the
design
that
they
came
up
with
that
currently.
O
AJ
AJ
AJ
B
O
U
AJ
If
you
will
the
westbound
movement,
that's
called
a
stop
and
go
signal
where
it
will
stay
green,
a
large
part
of
the
time,
except
for,
for
instance,
in
the
case
of
a
pedestrian
trying
to
cross
the
road.
Then
it
would
be
red.
But
if
there's
no
opposing
movement
then
it
would
stay
green.
The
majority
of
the
time
it's
a
little
bit
operates
a
little
bit
different
than
a
normal
signalized
intersection.
AJ
AJ
O
AJ
Be
actuated
they'll
they'll
press
the
button,
and
that
sends
a
message
to
the
controller
and
then
it
will
complete
the
cycle
and
bring
up
the
pedestrian
movement.
And
then
the
signal
would
be
all
red
and
then
the
signal
of
the
pedestrian.
It
would
have
to
count
down
more
than
likely
where
they
can
get
across.
So
there's.
O
AJ
O
AJ
If
you
can
see
the
driveway
is
beyond
the
island,
if
you
can
see
it
up
there,
it's
kind
of
hard
with
their
white
lines
on
there,
but
there's
a
where
the
car
sitting
there's
that
driveway
right
there
coming
out
of
the
convenience
store
gas
station
so
that,
where
that
truck
is,
is
close
to
where
the
apron
and
they
would
be
able
to
come
across
the
where
you
got
the
dual
left
turns
right.
There.
B
B
AJ
M
AJ
B
C
U
Unified
certification
program
update
for
disadvantaged
business
enterprise
program,
so
asking
Council
to
approve
updating
the
memorandum
of
understanding
with
Georgia
Department
of
Transportation
for
this
program,
which
is
an
element
of
the
city's
disadvantaged
business
enterprise
program
for
Federal
Transit
Administration.
We.
B
B
F
X
B
R
City
manager
I
had
a
phone
call
today
if
he
would
check
into
it.
For
me
the
church
new
birth
new
beginning
church,
the
address
is
five:
zero,
five
casita
Abington
casita
Avenue
and
for
some
reason
their
address
has
been
changed
to
forty
to
fifty
three
Willis
Street
and
all
their
mail
is
going
to
that
address.
Okay,
yeah.
U
L
B
A
Y
B
Y
Of
way,
sure
or
the
update
sure
well,
and
let
me
try
to
just
get
go
from
the
white
one
to
the
heavy
one,
but
need
to
I.
Don't
know
if
we
do
the
maintenance
along
the
right
of
ways
and
state
right
I
think
we
do
on
state
roads
on
over.
The
state
has
anything
to
do
with
their
signage
those
kind
of
things.
Well,
maybe
we
do,
but
the
flashing
lights
right
before
you
get
the
double
churches
on
River
Road,
the
the
trees
have
just
grown
out
beyond
them.
Y
Somebody
might
not
see
it
anyway.
It
needs
to
be
just
needs
to
be
cleared.
That's
the
first
one.
The
second
one
is
I've,
been
getting
a
lot
of,
and
it's
been
for
a
while
and
I've
brought
it
up
here
at
the
council
meeting
several
times
about
and
I'm
talking
about,
Smith
Road,
Smith
Road
seems
to
be
the
railroad
tracks.
There,
Smith
wrote
all
the
industries
are
out
there,
the
manufacturing
industries-
you
you
just
you
need
to
write
out
there.
Y
You'll,
then,
if
you've
got
an
old
car,
take
take
your
old
car
because
you
don't
wanna,
take
your
new
car
because
it
will
tear
it
up
when
you
go
across
the
railroad
tracks
at
a
flat-out,
tear
it
up
and
and
they're
right
about
that.
I
just
went
out
there
again
and
you
know
we're.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
get
more
folks
of
them?
Y
I
think
they're
responsible
for
the
Norfolk
Southern
could
come
in
there
make
some
improvements,
maybe
put
those
concrete,
pads,
yeah
I'm,
calling
them
concrete,
pads
I,
know,
there's
probably
another
term
for
them,
but
they
seem
to
work.
I
know:
councillor
Garrity's
has
talked
about
the
one
on
54th
Street,
so
if
I
many
times-
and
you
know
if
they
could
do
that-
just
be
a
tremendous
improvement.
Y
Think
people
are
concerned
about
the
believe
they
are
required
to
keep
all
the
rocks
and
dirt
and
all
that
stuff
off
the
road
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
complaints
about
that
about
them.
Maintaining
and
maintenance
aspect
of
that
I
believe
there
is
required
to
do
that.
Keep
the
roads
clean,
keep
them
watered
down,
keep
the
rocks
off.
So
could
you
have
somebody
look
at
that
just
to
maybe
give
me
an
update
on
it
again
well
and
and.
U
U
Y
You
ready
I'm
gonna,
throw
your
curveball.
Now,
okay,
it's
been
a
hot
topic
in
the
district.
I
represent
I'm
sure
some
of
the
other
council
members
have
have
concerns
as
well,
but
there's
a
lot
of
chatter
about
coyotes.
Yes,
we
know
they're
an
apex
predator.
We
know
they're
here
we
know
they
hunt,
we
know
they
kill.
We
know
they're
hard
to
get
rid
of
I.
Think
as
a
city,
its
say,
think
I'm
gonna
get
this
right,
but
the
only
measure
we
have.
Y
If
someone
calls
animal
control,
they
can
come
out
put
cages
traps,
put
some
food
in
them.
But
if
anybody
really
understands
in
those
Cody's
you
the
wily
coyote,
you
know
that's
what
they
say:
they're
they're
extremely
intelligent
animals
and
it
is
very,
very
difficult
to
trial.
Now,
I,
don't
know
if
the
city's
ever
trapped,
one
in
the
last
two
years,
I
really
don't
know
I'm
into
you.
Does
anybody
know
the
question?
Well.
I
know
I.
U
Y
Difficult
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
we
trout,
I,
don't
know
if
we're
having
success
there,
but
anyway,
I
guess
where
I'm
going
mr.
city
manager
with
this
is
I,
know
that
you
know
it
is
a
problem.
It's
people
are
really
concerned
across
the
board.
We've
had
some
some
of
our
residents
in
the
area
of
lost
their
pets.
You
know
how
that
hurts,
hurts
bad
and
and
also
going
out
at
night
and
being
confronted
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
just
maybe
it's
just
this
time
of
the
year
that
they're
having
young
they're.
Y
You
know
it's
hot
there,
there's
not
a
lot
of
food
out
there
for
them
and
they're
just
getting
a
little
more
aggressive.
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
if
it's
an
anomaly
or
what,
but
it
seems
like
they're
becoming
more
frequently
seen
in
neighborhoods
and
close
to
homes
and
front
doors
and
backyards,
and
all
the
rest
and
I
always
tell
people
that
just
you
know,
you've
got
to
go
out
with
your
pets
in
your
animals,
especially
at
night
from
dusk.
Y
On
from-
and
you
know,
you
got
to
watch
them
calls
there
he'd
say
it
but
they're
prey
to
to
these
County,
especially
if
they're
hungry,
there's
a
couple
things
I've
been
thinking
about.
I
know
that
the
state
has
a
program
where
they're
really
trying
to
cut
down
the
populace
of
counties,
but
I
know
we
have
laws
in
our
city
to
that.
Y
As
far
as
hunting
goes,
that
kind
of
somewhat
limited
I'm
talking
about
discharging
the
firearm.
What
would
it
take
to
allow
citizens
to
protect
themselves
in
situations
or
to
help
with
this
over
pot
there?
It's
it's
an
over
populous
and
it's
just
going
to
continue
to
happen.
What
would
it
take
could
that
happen
is.
Is
that
something
that
needs
to
be
discussed?
Well.
U
Let
me
just
say
that
let
me
have
staff
communicate
with
the
City
Attorney's
Office
I
mean
they've
done.
Research
they've
been
boots
on
the
ground
today,
talking
to
citizens
who
have
either
sighted
or
have
not
seen,
but
think
that
coyotes
are
on
their
property
and
so
I
don't
want
to
try
to
answer
that
question
here
tonight,
but
we
will
have
a
work
session.
Next,
Tuesday
and
I
will
have
staff
to
do
further
research
communicate
with
the
City
Attorney's
office
and
maybe
try
and
provide
some
in
response
next
week.
Y
And
you
know,
and
that
may
be
what
I'm
talking
about
is
extreme,
but
this
is
a
conversation:
okay,
we're
having
a
conversation
or
I'm
just
putting
out
what
I'm
hearing
from
my
constituents
all
right,
whether
I
believe
it
or
not,
whether
it's
my
position
or
not.
That's
irrelevant!
It's
just
what
I'm
hearing
but
I
know
we
have
stuff
know
the
castle
laws
and
things
like
that
or
you
can
protect
yourself,
protect
your
property,
protect
yourself.
You
know
and
I'd
have
to
ask
that
question.
Does
it
apply
also
in
this
situation?
U
And
I
saw
something
today
in
an
email
that
says
but
and
I'm
not
advising
you
or
anyone
else.
That's
why
I
want
to
talk
to
the
city
attorney
said
that
indicated
the
animal
is
a
nuisance
and
and
you
could
actually
shoot
them,
but
it's
not
my
advice
today.
I
want
to
consult
and
verify
and
then
share,
provide
you
with
informed.
Y
Y
The
last
thing
I
know
that
you
can
call
companies,
and
you
know
they're
they're
extremely
expensive,
and
you
don't
know
what
kind
of
success
rate
they're
going
to
have
I
mean
there's
trappers
out
there.
The
next
question
would
be:
is
that
something
I
know
at
one
time
councilor
Huff
was
you
know
we
we
address
the
the
wild
hog
situation.
You
know
we
had
to
do
some
a
we
had
to
take
care
of
some
things
because
they
were
going
into
neighborhoods,
and
you
know,
and
that's
a
situation
here-
is
that
something
on
the
city.
U
We,
the
one
thing
that
was
communicated
with
me
today,
is,
of
course,
how
people
are
not
trained
to
shoot
them
to
deal
with
them
and,
and
so
we'd
have
to
rely
on
an
outside
source
like
we
did
with
the
white
Hawks
and
so
we'll
try
and
address
it
all
next
week.
Okay,
that's
good!
Thank
you,
sir
I
appreciate
that.
Y
B
We
and
we
do
the
city
manager
and
councillor
Davis
are
correct.
We've
been
talking
about
it.
We
do
bring
in
sharpshooters
from
time
to
time
to
deal
with
dangerous
dogs
and
also
we
can
poison,
with
special
permission
the
two
things.
Of
course,
you
have
to
watch
our
coyotes
like
to
get
out
at
night,
which
limits
the
ability
of
the
sharpshooters
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
and
because
they're
wild
animals
and
people
aren't
feeding
them.
You
know
intending
to
feed
them
like
sometimes
they
do
with
wild
dogs
that
are
dangerous.
B
We
don't
really
know
when
they're
going
to
come
around,
so
we've
got
staff
working
on
that
and
the
poison
is
also
an
issue,
because
the
same
thing
that
attracts
a
coyote
to
it
is
exactly
what
attracts
a
dog
that
you
let
out
to
go
relieve
himself
and
then
he
never
comes
back.
So
it's
and
that
has
happened.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
happened
here,
but
certainly
it
happened
very
recently
and
very
dramatically
on
federal
property
and
made
the
national
news
so
so,
in
any
event,
we're
looking
into
all
those
things.
Okay,
anything
else,
councillor
Davis.
U
AD
Just
wanted
to
see
I'm,
not
sure
of
it
goes
to
you
city
manager
or
who
would
take
it.
Staff
and
I
were
on
well
be
honest,
Rick
jounin,
and
we
were
all
talking
about
the
walking
trail.
Follow
me
we're
building
a
bridge
across
run
bridge
over
victory
Drive,
and
we
want.
We
were
talking
back
there
I'm,
considering
it
to
name
it.
The
only
six
field
bridge
based
on
his
history
for
over
30
40
years
working
in
the
Oakland
Park
area
being
stationed
at
Fort
Benning.
AD
He
was
the
training
master
for
the
Christmas
story
each
year,
and
so
we
thought
that
would
be
a
great
honor.
I
did
call
his
son
wife
mr.
Richfield,
and
asked
her,
and
she
said
it
would
be
a
great
honor
if
we
did
I
told
her
that
probably
someone
from
staff
to
call
her
to
get
some
information.
So
we
can
get
the
application
so
I'd
like
to
recommend
them
that
that
bridge
be
named
after
almost
it's
okay.
AD
L
U
AD
By
the
clerk
of
Council,
can
we
get
that
send
over
and
I
gave
staff
Miss
Mabel's
phone
number
and
someone
can
call
her
and
get
additional
information
needed.
She
was
very,
very
excited
when
I
called
her.
She
said
that
that's
really
a
sweet
and
great
honor
that
we
will
even
consider
looking
at
naming
the
branch
after
minute.
He
deserves
that
for
everything
he
did
in
Oakland,
Park
I
told
her.
We
always
didn't
meet.
O
B
U
U
They
understand
how
that's
going
to
work
through
the
rest
of
this
month
and
then
through
the
end
of
the
year
and
we've
communicated
with
all
of
the
elected
officials.
We've
met
with
the
judges
primarily,
but
then
some
of
the
elected
officials
were
not
there
and
we've
communicated
with
them
and
sent
them
direct
email
correspondence
that
laid
out
they're
paid
through
the
end
of
the
year,
and
so
they
all
understand-
and
we
believe
the
matter
is
resolved
with
them.
AB
And
good
evening,
I
will
I
promise.
I
will
be
brief.
You
can
underscore
the
word
brief
here
tonight.
I
want
to
talk
to
you
real
quick
about
Complete
Streets
policy.
Back
in
2014,
we
established
a
policy
for
how
we
deal
with
Complete,
Streets
and
Complete.
Streets
is
simply
more
than
just
moving
cars
and
trucks,
it's
also
providing
sidewalks.
AB
AB
It's
right
back
and,
like
I
said
back
in
2014,
we
established
this
policy
this
for
Complete
Streets.
It
primarily
adopted
really
what
the
Georgia,
what
the
Georgia
Department
transportation,
is
establish
statewide
for
Complete
Streets.
At
that
time,
we
felt
like
if
good
enough
for
jido
is
good
enough
for
Columbus.
We've
changed
our
minds
slightly
on
that
a
little
bit
the
proposal
we're
making
we're
saying
here
is:
we
are
actually
going
to
set
design
guidelines.
AB
What
we're
not
what
we're
seeing
now
is
we
either
either
we
develop
a
road
when
we
resurface
the
roadway
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
or
have
to
come
back
and
look
at
the
roadway
we
get.
The
first
question
we
get
asked
now
is
when
you're
gonna
put
bike
lanes
on
there
well
I'm
here
to
tell
you
tonight
that
not
every
road
what
we
have
is
conducive
for
having
bike
lanes
on,
but
at
the
same
time,
though,
it
does
have
to
have
something
that
we
look
at
and
call
to
our
attention
about.
AB
Why
didn't
I
doesn't
qualify
to
have
bike
lanes
or,
more
importantly,
why
it
should
have
bike
lanes
in
the
particular
case.
This
is
what
we're
looking
at
going
into
put
into
design
guidelines
in
here,
which
we
go
in
here.
I've
got
two
I
indicate
to
you.
The
document
that
you
were
passed
out
really
has
about
five
on
five
different
standards:
this
National
Associates
at
the
National
Association
of
city
transportation,
officials
for
urban
urban
street
design
and
course--you
USDOT
federal
highway.
AB
Those
are
two
key
ones
there,
but
there
are
other
factors
and
in
terms
of
looking
at
design
guidelines,
we
want
to
establish
also
a
non
compliance
committee,
and
by
doing
that,
that
really
means
we
can
you
look
over
here.
We
talked
about
bringing
various
departments
get
on
that
third
sheet.
Here
we
talked
about
those
being
planning
and
engineering
how
it
works,
the
folks
that
have
a
hands-on
experience
with
this
thing
on
a
day
to
day
basis
and
looking
at
what
that,
what
it
why
or
why
not?
AB
This
roadway
should
be
considered
it's
a
complete
Street
project.
In
some
cases
again
it
may
well
be,
in
other
case,
it
may
not
case
in
point
real
quick
is
we
got.
We
got
a
lot
of
questions
when
we
we
did
the
resurfacing
of
Woodruff
arm
between
really
between
Warm,
Springs
and
Manchester.
Why
we
didn't
put
bike
lanes
on
there?
We
probably
couldn't
looked
at
at
least,
but
we
didn't
have
a
real
good
answer.
At
least
my
estimation,
why
we
did
this
policy
I
hope
will
establish
that,
it's
not
to
say
again.
AB
They
there
automatically
get
bike
lanes
or
anything
else,
but
at
least
it's
going
to
require
us
as
staff
to
go
back
and
look
and
see
what
the
criteria
should
be.
The
other
thing
we
won't
be
able
make
sure
we
do
is
provide
you
and
and
and
our
citizens,
an
annual
report,
but
what
activities
have
been
going
on
for
the
past
year?
In
terms
of
where
we've
done
some
things
differently
and
what
we
change,
why
we
didn't
change
it
and
things
of
that
nature.
AB
For
that
we
want
to
identify
again
how
this
complete
street
should
be
just
designed.
We
want
make
sure
the
public
right
of
ways
are
beautiful,
inviting
by
that
design
itself
we
will
make
sure
it's
transparent
and
how
we
determine
again.
What
a
complete
Street
should
really
look
like,
there's
more
anything
else
and
again
we
won't
be
able
to
provide
our
citizens
and
this
council
that's
an
answer
about
what's
going
on
what
we've
done,
we're
doing
with
our
complete
Complete
Streets
program
for
the
past
year.
So
so
that's
I
said.
That's
brief.
AB
Z
It
I
mean
just
a
quick
question,
though
this
committee
would
make
recommendations
based
on
roadways
that
are
in
the
process
of
being
widened,
where
we're
adding
capacity
or
would
they
also
I'm
thinking
a
13th
Street?
What
were
they
also
going
to
make
recommendations
for
restriping
to
reduce
the
number
of
lanes
and
put
bike
lanes
in
they're.
AB
Z
Concerns
me
a
little
bit
because
I
and
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
this
and
I'm
in
favor,
of
putting
those
bike
lanes
and
anywhere
we
can
but
I
think
that
was.
We
saw
how
it
can
be
a
very
polarizing
issue
and
where
you've
got
people
on
the
committee,
that
that
obviously
have
a
particular
interest
in
some
of
those
multimodal
transportation,
alternative
transportation
and
I.
Guess
it
just
it
just
concerns
me
just
a
little
bit
that
internet.
You
know
in
a
very
rare
instance
where
we
have
another
situation
like
that
that
they'll
come
to
us.
AB
The
committee,
the
committee
itself,
just
does
not
supersede
the
council.
We
still
come
back
to
Council
with
the
recommendation
to
you
from
that
committee
beginning
to
require
staff
no
other
than
you're
saying
yeah.
We
think
we
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
do
this.
Your
requires
has
come
back
really
with
a
real
recommendation,
based
on
something
other
than
the
fact.
We
think
it
might
be.
A
good
idea
admit
that
make
sense.
No.
Z
M
Excuse
me
from
13th
Avenue
from
five
points
there
down
Lynwood
Boulevard
to
10th
Avenue,
and
it
seemed
to
me
that
as
I
drove
that
Lynwood
Boulevard
having
that
piece
of
the
roadway
taken
up
for
a
bike,
lane
becomes
very,
very
narrow
and
it
would
as
I
rode
that
area.
I
thought
it
would
make
more
sense
to
me
to
take
that
bike
lane,
one
more
one:
more
block
to
17th
Street
go
to
Adams
17th
Street.
M
M
Change
in
every
road
back
to
this
council
I
think
that's
too
much,
but
I
do
think
that
perhaps
what
we
may
want
to
do
and
with
this
committee's
input,
is
some
kind
of
standards.
If
the
road
is
not
X
feet
wide,
you
don't
put
a
bike
lane
on
it.
You
know
that
sort
of
thing,
so
you
know
I
Road,
makin,
Road,
makin,
road
and
Buena.
M
So
there's
some
of
those
kinds
of
things
and
and
Buena
Vista
Road
is
the
same
thing.
I
think
that
that
corridor
is
about
16
miles
and
it's
all
two
or
three
lane
road,
with
the
exception
of
a
very
small
piece
out
by
Brown,
Avenue
and
so
from.
We
are
when
we're
looking
at
those
kinds
of
configurations.
M
First
of
all,
I
think
bike
lanes
are
great
wherever
we
can
put
them
where
they
do
not
endanger
the
rider
and/or.
The
driver
of
the
car.
That's
trying
not
to
hit
the
bicyclist,
so
I
guess
one
of
my
questions
would
be.
Do
you
anticipate
that
some
of
the
things
that
this
committee
would
do
would
be
would
have
to
come
back
to
us
for
approval,
and
some
of
the
things
would
not
come
back
to
us
for
approval
I.
AB
Wanted
to
answer
that
as
best
I
know
how
and
I
want.
One
final
say:
probably
yes
in
that
regard,
because
it's
kind
of
a
loaded
question
really
because
we
want
to
make
sure
we
keep
everybody
informed
by
what's
going
on.
What
we
don't
have
right
now
is
in
place,
is
really
what
I
consider
a
defensible
system
or
defensible
answer.
I
mean
we,
we
give
you
our
best
professional
opinion,
but
sometimes
it's.
AB
We
sometimes
stand
alone
in
terms
of
doing
that,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
things,
because
we
do
get
requests
now
for
roadways
to
be
looked
at
for
again
for
like
bike
ways
or
to
think
of
our
sidewalks
or
what
sidewalks,
it's
also
a
good
a
usually
we
got
to
have
it
some
way
where
I
know
how
they
answer
that
question
on
you
and
give
it
give
these
folks.
An
answer
today
is
a
special
best
of
our
knowledge
of
best
reliability,
type
answer
other
than
yeah.
AB
AB
M
M
My
claim
is
a
good
place
to
be
you
know,
but
planning
knows
that,
and
so
we
need
to
have
that
kind
of
input,
I
think
as
we
develop
standards
for
them
to
use
and
and
the
standard
again
we
have
standards
in
our
codes
and
so
forth,
and
if,
if
we
need
to
make
a
special
exception,
we
have
a
process
to
do
that
and
that's
what
I
would
would
hope
would
come
back,
not
only
the
standard,
but
if
there
is
a
need
for
a
special
exception.
How
is
that?
How
is
that
handled?
Okay,.
AD
Once
you
finish
this
process,
are
we
gonna
go
back
and
look
at
the
ones
that
we
have
established
now?
The
bike
trails
that
we
established
now
I
have
a
little
concern
about
the
one
here
when
you're
coming
off
making
road,
and
you
turn
to
Rigden
Parkway,
braking
well
right
here
when
we're
gonna
come
into
the
parking
lot
like
when
we
leave
here
at
night.
When
we
leave
here,
we
make
a
right
to
get
on
on
the
road
there.
S
This
is
just
an
announcement.
I've
passed
out
to
you,
the
information
from
G
dot
for
the
caseta
Road
oka,
cedar,
road
improvements
and
interchange.
There
will
be
a
public
meeting,
it's
a
G
dot
public
meeting.
It
will
be
an
open
house,
it's
Tuesday
next
Tuesday
August
29th
from
5
p.m.
to
7
p.m.
at
the
casita
Road
Child
Development
Center
at
4150,
casita
Road,
and
so
this
is
the
information
packet
that
they
will
be
passing
out.
S
They'll
have
a
board
set
up
throughout
the
room,
G
dot
representatives
to
answer
questions
from
the
citizens,
so
we
just
want
to
get
the
word
out
to
attend
this
meeting.
This
is
a
tea
splice
project
that
was
approved
by
the
voters,
and
so
gee
dot
will
be
managing
this
project.
For
us
and
again,
this
is
a
public
meeting
held
by
G
dot.
We
live
like
the
citizens,
input.
R
R
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
to
the
public
because
they
know
that
as
the
old
casita
Road
Elementary
well
I
went
there
with
southern
junior
high
school,
then
it
became
Cathedral
elementary
school
and
now
the
enrichment
services
programs
there
so
I
don't
know
what
names
on
the
building
just
want
to
make
sure
they
don't
get
lost.
Thank
you.
Q
A
mayor
and
members
of
council
on
the
clerk's
agenda,
we've
got
several
items
of
information.
Several
biographical
sketches
of
mr.
Tom
Barron
who's
interested
in
serving
on
our
retirees
health
benefits
committee,
biographical
sketch
of
mr.
Robert
battled.
This
is
uptown
Columbus
recommendation
for
the
uptown
facade
board,
biographical
sketch
of
mr.
David
Helmick
who's
interested
in
a
Columbus
Aquatic
Center
biographical,
sketch
of
mr.
joy
Humphries,
who
is
interested
in
our
animal
control
advisory
board,
biographical
sketch
for
the
circle
Commission.
Q
N
Q
A
board
appointment
on
our
animal
control,
Advisory
Board,
dr.
Scott
McDermott,
who
represents
the
Veterinary
Association,
is
not
eligible,
we'll
be
making
contact
with
them
for
a
recommendation.
Also,
mr.
Timothy
butts
is
eligible
to
succeed
himself
or
another
term
as
well.
Let's
miss
Becky
Carter.
Y
Q
Q
Q
AD
AD
Q
With
that
was
sailing,
the
recommendation
we
had
was
mr.
Helmick,
then
on
the
Convention
and
Trade
Center
Authority,
mr.
Robert
Nobles
term
will
be
expiring.
He
is
not
eligible
to
succeed
himself.
This
is
the
mayor's
appointment
on
a
circle.
Commission,
someone
wants
to
nominate
the
ring.
Counselor
Woodson
on
our
community
development,
Advisory
Council,
Council
Garrett
mr.
Davis,
has
resigned.
We'll
need
a
new
recommendation
for
that
seat
and
to
keep
Columbus
beautiful
commission
we're
working
with
keep
Columbus
beautiful,
commissioned
for
a
recommendation
for
that
seat
and.
Q
AG
AB
Q
Mr.
Murray
Murray
Anderson
he's
not
eligible
we'll
need
a
replacement
for
a
district
8
as
well
as
mr.
Willie
Bell
feel
for
district
10.
Our
Recreation
Advisory
Board
were
working
on
a
recommendation
for
district
2
for
district
7.
Councilor
Woodson
is
nominating
Miss
hailey
Lyman
and
she
can
be
confirmed.