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A
Mayor
skip
Henderson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley
pops,
Barnes
district,
one
Glenn
Davis
district
2,
Bruce
Huff
District
3,
Toya,
Tucker,
District,
4,
Charmaine,
crab
District,
5,
Gary,
Allen,
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
District
Six
Joanne
kogel
district
7,
Walker
Garrett,
District,
8,
Judy,
Thomas
posts;
nine
at
large
counselor
Tyson,
Begley,
Post
10
at
large
counselor,
Sandra,
Davis,
Clerk
of
counsel
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
Faye,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
city
council.
B
Morning
and
welcome
to
the
July
11th
city
council
meeting
we're
pleased
to
have
you
join
us
this
morning
as
we
in
work
on
the
city's
business.
So
the
first
thing
we'll
do
is
we'll
start
our
meeting
as
we
begin
all
of
our
meetings,
that
is,
by
asking
Pastor
Ricky
Smith
from
Calvary
Baptist
Church
to
please
come
up
and.
C
Thank
you,
Mr,
mayor
council.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership.
It's
an
honor
to
serve
alongside
you
and
our
amazing
City.
Can
we
go
to
the
Lord
in
prayer,
father
God?
We
come
to
you
today
acknowledging
your
Authority
and
your
Supremacy
over
all
things.
We
acknowledge
that
today
is
a
gift
that
has
been
given
to
us
from
you
and
we
receive
it
as
such,
and
we
ask
that
you
would
give
each
of
us
individual
strength
and
wisdom
and
discernment
as
we
walk
through
our
lives,
caring
for
our
families
and
stewarding.
C
What
you've
entrusted
to
us
today
and
in
this
moment,
and
in
this
place,
we
ask
for
special,
favor
and
blessing
on
our
mayor
and
our
city
and
our
leaders
doing
our
best
to
acknowledge
your
commandment
and
expectation
from
first
Timothy
2.
to
hold
them
in
high
regard
and
to
pray
for
wisdom
and
discernment
as
they
lead
and
so
God
today,
as
business
business
and
discussions
are
brought
before
them.
C
Lord
I
pray
that
you
would
give
them
ears
to
listen
a
heart
to
be
in
tune
with
you,
discernment
to
make
decisions
that
are
wise
and
ultimately
walking
in
unity
together,
so
that
we
are
a
city
who
brings
you
glory
and
honor
and
makes
your
name
known:
Above,
All
Else.
We
submit
this
time
to
you,
thanking
you
for
your
blessings
and
your
son's
name.
Jesus
Christ,
we
pray,
amen,
amen.
Thank
you.
B
B
Justice
for
all
right.
Thank
you
all
right.
First
order
of
the
business
is
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
June
27th
meeting.
There's
a
motion
and
a
second
to
prove
the
meetings
other
the
minutes.
Are
there
any
edits
or
any
questions
or
comments?
Hearing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
If
there
are
any
opposed
like
Sam
all
right,
they
are
approved.
B
G
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
recognition.
It's
a
really
important
week
for
locally
owned
and
operated
restaurants.
It
continues
to
be
one
of
the
busiest
weeks
for
them
throughout
the
year
and
summer
is
typically
a
down
time
for
them,
which
is
why
we
choose
it.
I
think
I
actually
saw
one
in
the
audience
this
week,
Tuesday's
taco
truck
is
is
joining
us
this
year,
we've
got
over
20
restaurants.
If
you
can
go
out
more
than
once,
there's
lunch
options,
there's
dinner
options.
This
is
a
really
important
week
for
them.
B
Well,
Katie:
we
appreciate
you
and
yala's
work
trying
to
get
this.
This
word
out.
You
know
Columbus
for
people
that
have
lived
here
more
than
about
10
years.
If
you
look
at
where
we
were
with
what
was
available
for
restaurants
and
where
we
are
now
with
the
number
of
locally
owned
outstanding
restaurants,
we've
got
it's
incredible
and
it's
important
that
people
continue
to
patronize
them,
and
this
is
a
way
I.
B
B
H
All
right,
thank
you.
Mayor.
We've
got
a
couple
of
zoning
items
for
public
hearings
first
and
the
first
one
is
8151
Fortson
Road
property
going
to
General
commercial
for
restaurant
use.
Melinda
Newton
is
the
applicant
there's
Newton
here,
yep
she's
here
all
right.
If
we
got
any
questions
of
the
applicant
around
the
table,.
H
H
Thank
you.
Ma'am
next
item
up
is
property
at
7150,
Schaumburg
Road,
that's
going
to
residential
multi-family
and
The
General
commercial
Mr
Gibson
is
here
as
the
Tilly
petition.
Any
questions
of
Mr
Gibson.
I
Good
morning
my
name
is
Austin
Gibson
I'm,
an
attorney
at
page
screen
I'm
here
in
Columbus
I'm.
Here
today
on
behalf
of
Anne
Von
cook
Tilly.
She
owns
about
the
property
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
today,
which
is
approximately
five
acres
on
Schomburg
Road.
If
you,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
area,
if
you're
heading
out
towards
the
Midland
area
on
J.R,
Allen
Parkway
and
you
take
you,
take
the
Blackman
Road
exit
you'll
come
to
that
light
at
Schaumburg
Road.
I
If
you
take
a
right,
this
property
is
right
on
your
left
up
there
past
past
The
Interchange
there,
and
so
this
property
is
currently
zoned
residential
one
and
we
in
the
future
land
use
for
the
area
is
that
entire
area
is
for
mixed
use:
development,
it's
surrounded
by
by
GC
in
the
red
there
and
then
multi-family
uses,
which
is
the
brown
color
and
then
across
the
street.
You
do
have
some
residential
uses,
the
site
plan
for
this
property.
I
Calls
for
two
separate
Parcels
assuming
the
rezoning
is
completed
in
the
front.
You'd
have
some
commercial
uses
right
now?
The
idea
is
for
there
to
be
a
restaurant,
a
urgent
care
or
Pharmacy,
and
then
some
retail
on
the
on
the
top
there
and
then
you'd
have
six
multi-family
buildings
in
the
back
four
units.
Each
so
you'd
have
approximately
24
apartment
units
in
the
back
there.
I
These
are
some
proposed
elevations
of
the
project.
As
you'll
see,
you
see
the
commercial
buildings
in
the
front
and
then
the
multi-family
in
the
back,
and
then
that's
that's
more
of
a
close-up
of
those
items.
One
thing
we
were
told
from
planning
and
was
that
we
would
need
to
install
a
left
turn
lane
into
the
development
to
assist
in
the
traffic
flow
and
that's
something
the
developers
certainly
willing
to
do
and
they'd
be
willing
to
comply
with
any
other
requests.
I
As
far
as
engineering
and
access
to
the
property
goes,
the
property
is
going
to
be
properly
buffered,
including
in
between
the
in
between
the
multi-family
piece
and
The
General
commercial
piece,
there'd
be
appropriate,
buffering
there
that
would
comply
with
the
Udo
as
far
as
public
facilities.
The
properties
currently
served
by
all
all
public
facilities.
I
There
wouldn't
be
any
additional
expenditure
in
that
regard,
and
then
economic
impact,
obviously
in
the
build
out
of
this
project,
there'd
be
construction,
jobs
and
then
also
in
the
retail
and
then
perhaps
in
the
leasing
offices
of
the
multi-family
there'd
be
some
permanent
jobs
there.
That
would
increase
the
sales
tax
revenue
for
the
city,
and
so
in
conclusion,
we
think
this
is
a
positive
development
for
the
city.
It
you
know
it
complies
with
the
existing
land
uses
around
it
and
then
also
with
the
future
land
uses
designated
for
that
area.
I
H
K
I'm
Cheryl
Carpenter
I
live
in
Robin,
Smith,
Court,
also,
and
my
property
kind
of
sort
of
backs
up
to
Schaumburg
Road.
We
are
not
here
opposing
development
of
that
area.
Right
now,
it's
nothing.
But
what
we
are
really
concerned
about
is
the
traffic
flow
and
the
impact
that
it's
going
to
have
on
the
kids
going
back
and
forth
to
school.
There
are
no
sidewalks
on
that
road
whatsoever.
K
Tanker
trucks
are
still
using
Schaumburg,
Road
Schaumburg
Road
is
also
it
is
not
rated
for
the
heavy
trucks
and
it's
clearly
posted
at
either
end.
So
when
we
have
I'm
assuming
the
bulldozers
or
whatever
y'all
call
those
big
things
coming
in,
you
know
the
heavy
equipment
coming
in
to
work.
How
is
that
going
to
affect
our
road?
They
just
resurfaced
Schaumburg
Road
and
it's
going
to
be
really
bad,
but
the
main
concern
is
going
to
be.
K
How
is
the
traffic
coming
out
of
our
Robinson
neighborhood
and
also
just
north
of
us
on
Schaumburg
Road
bridlewood
comes
out
and
they
don't
have
a
stoplight
or
anything
they
just
sort
of
have
to
work
their
way
in
now,
it's
already
a
congested
area.
So
what
is
going
to
be
changed
with
Schaumburg
Road
to
make
this
workable
for
everybody
concerned?
Even
the
the
new
businesses
that
they're
wanting
to
put
in
that's
fine,
you
know
we,
businesses
are
good.
New
housing
is
good,
but
will
sidewalks
be
added?
What
will
happen
to
the
well?
K
If
you
we
would
appreciate
a
traffic
study
performed
when
the
school
is
in
session
and
the
buses
are
running,
because
currently
we
have
buses
that
stop
all
along
Schaumburg
Road,
which
is
just
going
to
bottleneck
traffic
I
know
when
they
redid
Schaumburg
Road
the
the
company
that
we
asked
off.
They
don't
know
who
they
were,
but
they
did
an
excellent
job
of
shuttling,
but
it
was
one
way
and
it
took
forever.
Traffic
would
be
back
from
in
front
of
Robin,
says
neighborhood,
probably
a
mile
down
the
road
to
Warm
Springs
right.
K
So
we
we
have
some
issues
here
that
we
really
appreciate
Council
of
looking
at
main
one
being
safety
of
the
children
that
do
walk
the
road
to
our
children.
I
have
to
walk
home
like
half
from
high
school
after
band
practice
or
whatever.
Not
every
kid
rides
the
bus
and
we
see
them
walking
along
the
side
of
the
road
with
a
45
mile
an
hour
limit
right
now.
K
K
We
have
Sugar
Mill
Apartments.
We
have
neighborhoods
Riverdale
neighborhood,
there's
a
couple
more
neighborhoods
spots:
fire
backs
up
to
Schaumburg
Road,
so
their
kids
are
riding
buses.
You
know
they're
they're,
like
50
houses,
just
in
Robin's
Nest,
and
then
you
have
bridlewood
that
if
they
do
not
exit
on
the
Schaumburg
Road,
they
go
back
through
Fox
life.
So
that's
gonna
increase
some
traffic
on
Fox
bar.
K
If
we
don't
do
something
to
address
this
issue
on
Schaumburg
Road,
which
is
not
necessarily
new
buildings,
yeah
Robert
Woods
had
an
issue
there
for
a
long
time,
because
the
way
their
road
comes
into
Schaumburg
Road,
you
have
the.
When
you
come
off
of
J.R
Allen,
you
turn
Southbound
on
Schaumburg
Road.
You.
K
There
and
immediately
you
have
a
road
that
swings
back
and
around
to
go
into
bridlewood,
so
you
have
merging
from
different
areas
there,
and
then
you
have
a
couple
of
houses,
a
church
and
right
on
the
left
is
going
to
be
these
apartments.
So
now
would
be
the
time
in
our
opinion,
if
y'all
would
look
at
this
traffic
flow
issue,
especially
when
school
is
on
yeah.
J
Well,
and
the
other
concern
is
that
we
take
our
lives
in
our
hands
every
single
day,
just
leaving
our
neighborhood,
because
people
coming
down
Schaumburg,
Road,
think
they're
still
on
J.R
Allen
and
they're
they're
doing
more
than
the
45.,
and
it
is
a
curve
there
is
no.
We
have
no
visibility
until
we're
halfway
out
I
think
there
have
been
some
major
accidents
where
the
churches
on
either
side
of
us
have
the
same
difficulty.
We
can't
say
anything
from
the
left.
The
church
on
Schomburg,
Road,
Baptist
Church,
can't
see
anything
coming
from
the
right.
J
So
on
the
map.
It
doesn't
look
like
it's
much
of
a
curve,
but
there
is
no
visibility
to
enter
Schomburg
Road
and
that's
with
the
traffic.
The
trip
planning
which
I
didn't
I
got
from
the
city
planning
meeting
that
is
going
to
go
from
49
trips
to
610
trips,
that's
five
times
more
traffic
on
Schomburg
Road,
where
you
know
something's
got
to
be
done
for
the
safety
of
everybody.
F
Hi
I'm
Gary
Allen
I'm,
your
counselor
for
the
area
I'd
be
glad
to
set
up
a
meeting
with
you
to
talk
about
this
thing
that
we
can
get
Mr
Mr
Gibson
there
as
well,
and
just
to
answer
your
question
I.
Think
somebody
made
a
comment
about
the
sidewalks,
a
sploss
for
the
sidewalks,
the
spot.
The
sploss
sidewalk
projects
were
designed
around
the
schools,
so
we
started
with
the
schools
and
we
sort
of
spider
webbed
out
from
there.
They
were
not
set
up
to
do
every
Street
in
the
city.
F
K
Want
that
we're
not
opposed
to
this,
you
know
we
just
want
it
needed
to
be
safe
for
everybody
concerned,
for
us
getting
out
of
our
neighborhood
and
for
the
children
that
might
have
to
walk
home
for
the
school
buses
that
load
and
unload
you
know,
and
for
the
people
in
the
churches.
Also,
if
somebody
just
drive
down
Schaumburg
Road
from
J.R
Allen
to
Warm
Springs
Road,
now.
J
B
F
Did
thank
you
just
one
more
point.
I
wanted
to
address
that
y'all
had
brought
up
was
the
speed
on
the
road
and
the
chief
is
in
the
audience
and
he's
hearing
what
you're,
what
you're
saying
and
also
the
weight
limit
of
the
road
Chief.
If
you
could
have
your
guys
I
know,
deputy
chief
Kennedy
has
been
helping
me
with
some
other
roadways
where
the
trucks
have
been
violating
that
as
well.
So
if
you
could
help
us
with
Schomburg,
Road
we'd
appreciate
it.
K
B
H
M
N
Yes
to
to
not
have
sidewalks,
you
have
to
file
a
variance
to
counsel
as
you've
seen
in
the
last
couple
of
months
with
a
couple
of
developments,
so
they
would
have
to
specifically
request
no
sidewalks,
but
yes,
they
have
to
build
sidewalks
in
front
of
this
development.
M
I
know
that
that
will
not
solve
all
of
the
sidewalk
problems
on
Schaumburg
Road,
but
it
will
at
least
begin
some
of
that.
Is
there
any
and
I
don't
know
where
you
would
go
with
this
to
lower
the
speed
limit
on
Schaumburg
Road
I
know
that
sometimes
it
doesn't
matter
if
you
lower
the
speed
limit,
they're
not
going
to
follow
it
anyway,
but
is
that?
Is
that
an
option
that.
N
You
and
and
another
thing
to
add
roundabouts
at
the
interchanges
of
Schaumburg
and
Blackman
are
going
to
be
added
in
Band
2
of
the
T
splost,
which
will
start
around
2026,
and
we
can
look
at
potentially
expanding
some
of
the
design
out
to
maybe
address
some
of
that,
depending
on
the
financials
and.
M
I
know
when
probably
when
Schaumburg
Road
was
developed,
there
were
not
these
develop
other
developments,
residential
and
so
forth
out
there,
but
now
that
they
are,
we
need
to
do
whatever.
We
can
to
make
sure
that
our
not
only
our
kids
are
safe,
but
other
people
traveling
on
Schaumburg
Road
are
safe
too.
So,
if
you
would
look
into
those
couple
of
things,
Mr
Johnson
I
would
appreciate
it.
M
O
Johnson
I
this
somewhat
pertains
to
the
request
as
far
as
what
we're
dealing
with
today
but
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I
was
glad
to
just
hear
you
say
about
the
roundabouts
at
Blackman,
Road
and
Schaumburg
Road.
The
plans
there
Council,
Allen
and
I
have
talked
about
that.
There's
one
side
that
has
really
been
dangerous
there
on
Blackman,
Road
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
whatever
we
can
do
to
expedite
that.
That
is
a
an
area
that
needs
to
be
dressed
because
it
is
extremely
dangerous
and
I
know.
Councilor
Allen
can
vouch.
O
He
gets
a
lot
of
calls.
I
get
those
calls
too.
It's
not
my
district,
but
we
do
I
use
that
hardware
store
there
at
Ace,
Hardware
store
on
a
regular
basis
and
it
it
is
extremely
difficult,
especially
going
I
guess
it
would
be
going
West
getting
off
West
and
then
trying
to
make
a
left
or
right
turn
or
crossing
over
to
head
down
towards
Schaumburg.
So
if
you
know
anything
you
can
do
to
expedite
that
would
be.
We.
N
Can
certainly
talked
to
the
T
office
in
Atlanta
about
any
Expediting
any
projects
great,
whether
they'll
do
it
or
not.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
P
Thank
you
mayor.
Article
22
is
the
Liberty
Theater
Cultural
Center
Arts
Center
Advisory
Board,
just
a
couple
of
things.
I
looked
at
and
thought
might
be
helpful
in
section
2-296
on
operation
generally,
it
states
that
we
will
have
a
nine-member
voting
board.
What
I'd
like
to
add
is
that
one
of
the
nine
members
be
a
licensed
CPA
on
that
board
to
work
with
our
finance
department
and
the
Civic
Center,
and
in
section.
P
2-298
A4.
P
I
like
to
add
down
where
it
says
it
says
the
board
should
review
financial
statements
of
the
Liberty
Theater
and
Cultural
Arts
Center
with
a
representative
from
the
finance
department
and
it
on
on
at
least
an
annual
basis,
and
what
I
like
to
add
there,
along
with
the
finance
department,
there'll,
be
a
board.
The
board
chair
and
Civic
Center
Director
shall
report
to
council,
along
with
them
to
give
that
annual
update.
P
P
Okay,
quarterly,
okay
and
let's
see
board
chair
Civic
Center
report
Council
on
a
result;
okay,
so
one
is
annual
and
one
is
quarterly.
So
number
four
is
the
annual
when
the
annual
is
done
with
the
finance
department.
I'd
like
for
the
board,
chair
and
Civic
Center
Director,
just
to
be
here
just
so.
We
know
everybody's
on
the
same
team
and
everything's
working
well
and
on
number
five.
It
would
be
the
quarterly
update.
It
says
that
they
will
have
site
visits
quarterly.
P
So
after
the
site
visits
if
they
would
come
and
where
it
says,
on
four
and
five,
it
says:
board
chair
or
Civic
Center
Director
I'd,
like
that
to
say
board
chair
and
Civic
Center
Director
I'd,
like
our
a
representative
from
the
board
to
be
with
them
just
to
come
in
and
give
us.
So
basically
what
I'm
asking
for
is
four
is
on
the
annual
update
on
the
financials
that,
when
I
finance
department
and
the
Civic
Center
reports
that
we
have
a
city,
a
board
chair
and
Civic
Center
Director
here.
P
P
B
B
H
B
Motion
all
right,
Council
Tucker,
is
just
an
emotion.
Okay,.
Q
P
P
Come
here,
okay,
yeah
report
to
us
so
we'll
know
every
three
months
what's
going
on
and
then
annually
when
they
come
in
and
discuss
the
financials
they'll
come
in
with
the
finance
team
and
we'll
have
board
chair
and
Civic
Center
Director.
So
we
get
all
our
questions
answered.
B
H
Mayor
next
we've
got
a
resolution
requesting
a
special
exception
for
a
private
school
in
the
existing
buildings
at
4361,
Williams
Road,
there's
a
50-foot
natural
buffer
required
plus
an
opaque
fence
as
part
of
the
Grant
of
this
exception.
If
it
is
approved,
it's
up
for
discussion,
counselor.
B
M
I
guess
Mr
Johnson
as
I
read
this
report.
It
did
not
say
about
the
private
school.
Is
this
going
to
be
a
K-12
private
school,
or
is
it
going
to
be
something
short
of
that.
M
R
R
I
was
I've
spoken
with
the
next
door,
neighbor,
and
that's
that's.
What
they
had
requested
and
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
that
his
main
concern
about
having
that
fence
and
that
buffer
was
that
that
pond
and
that
Lake
and
so
that
the
the
fence
is
on.
You,
know
the
school
side
of
the
lake
and
it
and
so
and
I,
would
think
that
you
wouldn't
be
building
the
fence
through
the
lake
anyway,
no.
N
R
B
H
All
right,
we'll
get
some
language
added
in
to
cover
that,
but
you
need
to
go
on.
This
is
a
matter.
That's
a
public
hearing
today.
So
if
the
applicant
is
here,
they
can
come
forward.
We
can
see
if
anybody
else
in
the
audience
wants
to
comment
any
any
people
want
to
come
at
four
against,
on
the
special
exception.
E
H
B
B
L
B
S
Mayor
and
Council
and
I'm
guessing
the
gallery
in
our
viewing
audience.
This
is
somewhat
of
a
serendipitous
moment
for
me,
when
I
retired,
from
the
military
I
heard
about
Mr
Rivers,
the
field
of
Architecture
is
I'm,
going
to
just
read
something
now,
even
now
out
of
the
hundred
thousand
Architects
only
2,
500.
S
or
African-Americans.
So
it's
it
stuck
out
in
my
mind
when
I
retired
and
I
heard
Mr
River's
name
and
when
I
was
elected
to
council
I
we
bumped
into
each
other
I
figured.
You
might
have
remembered
that
on
the
sidewalk.
By
acting,
we
just
felt
and
I
said,
are
you
Mr
rivers
and
we
had
a
really
good,
maybe
a
two
or
three
minute
conversation,
but
in
my
mind
I
said
you
know.
S
I
would
like
to
to
highlight
what
a
groundbreaker
you
are
by
doing
something
but
Mr
Rivers,
left,
Columbus
and
I'm
going
to
mention
what
I
mentioned
to
you.
I
thought
Mr
Rivers
had
passed
away
and
didn't
seek
anymore
about
it
and
I
bumped
into
the
mayor
here.
I
mean
something
and
at
a
meeting
at
the
River
Valley
Regional
Commission
and
I
just
happened
to
see
a
card
that
he
had
and
just
said,
John's
Rivers
I
said
I
hate
to
ask
this
question:
is
he
alive?
S
She
said
he
sure
is
he's
living
in
South
America,
and
so
this
is
a
supplement.
I
appreciate
very
much
doing
because
you
are
a
groundbreaker,
and
so
it
is
my
pleasure
and
Mr
rivers
and
his
wife
flew
in
from
Ecuador.
It's
really,
let
me
read.
The
proclamation
I
had
to
introduce
everyone.
The
proclamation
reaches
actually
it
says,
whereas
John
Rivers
was
born
to
Lula
Francis
Snyder
and
John
R
rivers
on
August,
the
24th
1942
in
mcleanville
South
Carolina,
whereas
he
was
a
member
of
the
1955
Canyon
Street
All-Star
baseball
team.
S
That
was
denied
the
opportunity
to
play
in
the
Little
League
World
Series
because
of
segregation,
whereas
he
graduated
in
1965
from
Hampton
Institute
with
a
degree
in
art.
He
went
on
to
Columbia
University
graduate
school
of
architecture
from
1968
to
1969
became
a
licensed
architect
in
1990,
a
profession
that,
even
today,
out
of
the
over
a
hundred
thousand
Architects
nationally.
S
S
Was
a
leadership
Columbus
graduate
received
the
M
Martin
Luther
King
breakfast
Award
of
appreciation
for
the
Alpha
Psi
Alpha,
fraternity
and
10
years
in
business
award
from
congressman
Sanford
bishop
and
he
served
as
a
board
member
of
the
Columbus
Technical
College
Foundation,
whereas
in
2014
Mr,
Rivers
retired,
and
he
had
his
wife
of
60
years.
Miss
robinia,
Sumpter
Rivers
live
in
South
America
and
have
two
children,
a
daughter,
Sophia
Sophia,
Gail
rivers
and
Son
M,
Von,
nakosi
and
four
grandchildren.
B
T
It
was,
it
was
hilarious
when
we
met
because
a
good
friend,
Ken
Sumpter
who's
mayor
of
four
games.
Georgia,
we
do
business
together
for
the
last
20
years
or
so
he's
a
design
and
construction
told
me
that
he
met
Paul,
buns
and,
and
he
wants
you
to
give
him
a
call
and
I
called
you
the
rest
of
the
story
here.
I
am
but
anyway,
I
want
to
make
this
very
short.
T
I
see
some
very
familiar
faces
here,
long
time,
friends,
Isaiah
we
go
Way,
Way,
Back,
Bruce,
Church,
brother,
yeah
and
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
council
for
recognizing
the
time
that
I
was
in
Columbus
and
the
contribution
that
I
made
in
the
field
of
architecture.
T
I
Columbus
is
still
dear
to
our
hearts.
We
were
here
for
20
plus
years
time
flies,
and
we
made
a
lot
of
friends
in
the
community,
embraced
my
services
while
I
was
here
and
I
would
like
to
express
appreciation
for
those
who
did
a
lot
of
support
and
kind
of
had
the
success
that
I
did
without
the
support
of
the
community.
T
Very
embracing,
loving,
Community
ex
took
me
in
I,
came
in
from
Jacksonville
Florida
and
I
couldn't
believe.
There
was
a
65-70
million
dollar
project
in
Columbus
Georgia,
but
it
was.
T
It
was
real
and
that's
how
I
got
here
as
Pop
mentioned,
I
was
the
on-site
architect
for
the
perform
at
River
Center
for
the
Performing
Arts
historic
project
very
complicated,
very
challenging,
but
we
got
it
done
so
without
further
Ado
I
I
must
pay
special
tribute
to
Lula
Francis
Snyder,
Rivers
I
think
somebody
famous
said
all
that
I
am
and
all
that
I
ever
hoped
to
be
I
owe
to
my
mother
and
I'm
quite
sure.
We
all
have
similar
stories.
T
She
was
my
champion
20
year
old,
that
bought
two
houses
at
20
and
started
a
restaurant
business
I
think
some
of
that
rubbed
off
on
me,
but
that's
unheard
of
in
these
times
of
a
consummate
entrepreneur
and
it
filtered
down
to
me
I'm
quite
sure,
because
I've
been
doing
this
for
56
years
now
and
I
transitioned
to
Art
I'm,
now
a
painter
and
they
always
said
find
something
to
do
when
you're,
retire
and
I
found
it
and
I've
been
painting
for
the
last
six
years.
I
had
my
first
show
in
Ecuador.
T
U
Carol
Deutsch
deidris
Jones
and
Pastor
Jones,
Jay,
Jones,
50
years
friendship
or
more
and.
T
That's
the
driver,
absolutely
so!
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
this
honor.
It's
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
don't
plan
for
and
it's
sweeter
when
you
don't.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Huff.
T
V
P
P
P
So,
as
you
had
either
problems
with
your
legs
or
you
got
a
little
older
and
it
was
a
little
tougher
getting
in
and
out,
he
came
in
and
helped
design
an
elevator
tower
that
we
have
there
now,
so
everyone
is
able
to
come
in
through
the
elevator
Tower
and
come
in
and
out
of
services
without
a
problem,
and
it
was
just
a
wonderful
design,
wonderful
project
we
enjoyed
working
with
you
and
to
for
your
ears,
we
just
paid
it
off
excellent
amen.
W
Manager,
thank
you
mayor.
I.
Just
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
Mr
Rivers
for
all
of
his
work
here
in
in
our
city.
In
in
this
Rivers.
You
certainly
yeah
made
your
mark
on
Columbus,
Georgia
and
and
then
I
want
to
thank
you
for
mentoring.
This
young
man
I.
When
you
open
your
own
architectural
firm,
you
were
doing
some
work
for
the
city
and
I
have
a
chance
to
visit
his
office
and
in
his
office.
W
Was
this
young
man
who
had
graduated
from
University
of
Tennessee,
and
those
of
you
around
the
table
know
this
guy
named
John
Hutchison
and
he
was
there
working
in
your
office
and
you
were
training
him
and
mentoring
him
in
the
field
of
in
the
architectural
field
and
and
so
I
I
want
to
apologize,
because
you
know
after
I
saw
him
there.
I
was
able
to
steal
him
from
you
and
bring
him
to
work
for
the
city,
and
so
John
came
to
work
for
the
city
and
managed
construction
projects.
W
It
was
all
because
of
what
you
taught
him
the
experience
and
and
then
John
went
on
to
become
director
of
inspections
and
codes,
and
he
made
his
mark
on
inspections
and
codes.
And
then
the
mayor
of
Temple,
Florida,
hired
away
from
us.
E
W
It
started
with
you,
and
so
you
made
your
remark
on
Columbus.
You
you
lifted
others
who
perhaps
would
not
have
had
a
chance
or
an
opportunity
and
look
at
them
now
because
of
what
you
did
for
them.
So
I
commend
you
congratulate
you
and.
T
T
His
dad
called
me
I
was
on
the
River
Center
at
the
time
and
said
I've
got
a
young
man
graduating
in
high
school
this
year
and
I
want
you
to
sit
down
and
have
lunch
with
us
and
kind
of
tell
them
what
the
profession
is
all
about.
It
was.
It
was
John
JC,
High
School.
T
We
had
lunch
on
Broad
and
Roses
Jamaican
Place
back
in
the
day
yeah,
and
he
was
just
bright-eyed
and
naive,
of
course,
but
he
was
driven.
I
can
tell
he
went
off
to
college
five
years
later.
My
telephone
rang
Mr
Rivers.
This
is
JC.
You
got
a
job
for
me,
that's
kind
of
guy.
He
was
he
just
graduated
from
his
to
University
of
Tennessee
and
I
didn't
have
a
job,
but
I
made
a
job.
Somebody
can
remember
me.
Five
years
later,
I
made
a
job.
I
took
him
on
and
it
was
with
no
regret.
T
B
Thank
you,
Isaiah.
Well,
Mr
Rivers,
you
have
left
a
legacy,
you've
built
buildings
and
built
young
men,
and
we,
the
buildings,
are
still
here.
The
young
man
got
away.
We
may
bring
him
back
and
we
are
all
tremendously
pleased
to
find
out
that,
like
Mark
Twain,
the
rumors
of
your
demise
had
been
greatly
exaggerated.
Yeah.
If
you
have
a
moment,
if
you'll
take
a
moment,
come
around,
let
it
shake
your
hands.
Sir
I'll
present
you
with
this
resolution.
E
D
O
D
H
Okay,
my
next
next
item
up
is
a
resolution.
H
That
the
next
item
relates
to
a
resolution
passed
last
year
that
was
number
135-22,
where
Council
resolved
that
we
would
have
an
RFP
for
Indigent
care
services,
and
in
that
resolution
you
specify
that
all
entities
which
are
successful
bidders
in
the
upcoming
RFP
will
have
an
opportunity
to
seek
reimbursement
for
costs
for
this
past
fiscal
year
and,
as
you
recall
last
week,
all
bids
any
and
all
bids
were
rejected,
but
this
resolution
on
the
table
would
allow
the
two
recommended
bidders
to
seek
reimbursement
for
energy
care
expenses
for
the
previous
year,
those
being
Piedmont
and
mercy
Med.
H
O
O
I
was
prepared
to
come
in
here
today.
After
seeing
this
resolution,
it
was
kind
of
a
little
confusing
after
the
conversation
and
the
dialogue
that
we
had
last
week
that
the
council
was
concerned
about
equality
and
parity
amongst
our
health
care
providers.
And,
let
me
just
say
we
love
our
health
care
providers
and
they
do
a
valuable
service
for
our
community
and
just
in
working
through
this
and
trying
to
understand
it.
O
I
know:
there's
there's,
there's
components
here
that
that
it's
hard
to
it's
kind
of
complex
and
in
so
many
words
you
you've
got
a
short
amount
of
time
to
to
cover
this
matter.
But
I
know
that
there
is
a
need
to
address
the
inmate
care
that
we
provide
every
year.
O
That's
a
separate
what
I
look
at
as
a
separate
component
to
the
Indigent
care
and
then
trying
to
understand
the
Indigent
care
in
our
community
and
it-
and
it
goes
back
to
the
time
of
when
there
was
a
county
somewhat
of
a
County
Health
Care
type
program
that
was
set
up
to
where
counties
can
come
in
and
provide
Health
Care
in
their
communities,
because
they're
really
counties
were
left
up
to
their
own.
To
do
this
back
then,
but
then
the
laws
changed.
The
laws
came
changed
in
the
late
1990s.
O
Does
it
recently,
Macon
doesn't
do
it
anymore,
but
we're
still
doing
it,
because
it's
somewhat
of
benevolence
out
of
our
hearts
that
we
want
to
help
out.
We
want
to
to
help
the
needs
in
our
community
and
then
also
looking
through
this.
It
struck
me
that
without
can
you
imagine
our
community
without
one
hospital,
we
got
two
hospitals,
two
top-tier
Health
Care
facilities
in
our
community.
Can
you
imagine
our
community
without
one?
O
Can
you
imagine
without
these
hospitals?
Really
you
don't
have
Indigent
care,
there's
no
Indigent
care,
because
our
top
tier
Health
Care
Providers,
are
the
ones
that
make
it
all
happen
without
Health
Care
without
mental
health
care.
You
really
don't
have
Indigent
care,
so
there's
a
wide
range
of
services
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with
in
our
community,
and
it's
very,
very
complex
I
want
to
read
something
out
of
this.
O
This
law
to
you,
where
it
states
the
Intel
law,
basically
requires
hospitals
and
emergency
departments
to
provide
emergency
medical
care
to
everyone
who
needs
it,
regardless,
whether
Medicare
or
Medicaid,
regardless
of
ability
to
pay
or
Insurance
status
under
that
law,
patients
with
similar
medical
conditions
must
be
treated
consistently.
The
law
applies
to
hospitals
that
accept
Medicare
reimbursement
and
all
patients,
not
just
those
covered
by
Medicare
hospitals
are
have
three
obligations
under
Implement
implica.
O
First,
they
must
provide
all
patients
with
medical
screening
examination
to
determine
whether
emergency
medical
conditions
exist
in
regard
for
their
ability
to
pay
for
services.
Second,
we're
an
emergency
medical
condition
exists.
There
must
either
provide
treatment
under
the
patient
for
the
patient
until
it's
stabilized
or
they
do
have
the
capability
to
transfer
the
patient
to
another
hospital.
Third
hospitals
with
specialized
capabilities
are
obligated
to
accept
transfers,
and
if
those,
if
they
have
the
capabilities
to
treat
them,
they
must
Medical.
Care
cannot
be
delayed
by
questions
about
methods
of
payment
or
insurance
coverage
and
I
started.
O
Thinking
about
that,
and
that's
exactly
last
week
in
our
conversation,
what
we
were
trying
to
accomplish
that
somehow,
under
the
current
model
that
we're
using
and
there's
look,
we're
I
really
believe
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
We're
trying
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
somehow
there's
a
number
of
us
here
at
this
table
that
feel
like
certain
key
Health
Care
Providers,
primarily
our
top-tier
health
care
provider.
O
O
That's
where
we're
at
that
gives
everybody
an
equal
opportunity
to
apply
to
being
reimbursed
to
have
an
opportunity
to
receive
this
help
because
they're
all
valuable.
Especially
there
are
two
hospitals.
Like
I
said,
you
don't
have
Indigent
care
without
your
two
hospitals
and
when
you
break
it
down
into
what
they
they
actually
do
and
how
they
evolve,
which,
in
the
last
week
or
two
weeks,
I've
been
educated
on
stuff,
I
didn't
even
know
what
these
hospitals
do
in
our
community
and
and
without
them.
The
other
agencies
out
there.
O
O
Them
this
morning,
but
it's
true
they're
connected
and
they
provide
the
services
and
without
those
Services
those
entities,
don't
they're
not
able
to
provide
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here
in
our
community.
So
you
have
to
ask
the
question:
is
there
parody
Or?
How
did
certain
providers
get
left
out
of
the
equation?
It's
not
adding
up
and
I
I
think
this
council
is
really
really
concerned
about
that
and
making
it
happen.
O
We
need
to
look
at
this
in
broader
terms
and
and
as
the
resolution
States
in
a
wide
range
of
services
to
be
provided
and
personally
I
know.
There's
a
lot
of
us
that
know
the
argument
or
the
the
conflict.
That's
been
going
on
our
community
for
a
long
time
of
somewhat
around
the
the
word
favoritism
that
there's
a
big
concern
that
our
top
tier
Health
Care
Providers,
have
not
been
treated
equally.
O
We've
got
that
opportunity
now
to
put
that
argument
or
that
conflict
to
rest
and
to
start
out
on
New
footing
and
to
allow
and
to
allow
that
relationship
to
flourish
in
our
community,
where
we
we
do
have
parity.
We
do
have
equality
with
these
funds
and,
if
we're
going
to
do
it
as
a
city
and
we're
going
to
choose
to
go
this
path,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
that
mindset
that
we
we
take
care
of
everybody
now
I,
just
don't
know
how
everybody
got.
O
Some
people
got
left
out,
I
don't
know,
but
it
concerns
me
and-
and
that
certainly
needs
to
be
addressed.
But
you
know
this
morning:
I
was
prepared
to
add
some
more
and
and
Consulting
with
the
city
attorney.
Add
some
of
the
entities
that
got
left
out
but
then
I
found
out
that
that
can't
do
that
or
I
was
advised
that
I
couldn't
do
that
so
now,
I'm
back
at
the
situation.
Well,
do
we
just
carry
the
funds
over
get
the
model
that
we
need?
O
That
we
know
is
going
to
help
and
work
in
our
community
and
in
address.
At
the
same
time,
we
do
need
to
address
the
the
inmate
health
care.
That's
already
been
provided,
I,
don't
know
what
that
figure
is,
but
it's
kind
of
lumped
into
this
whole
funding
of
indigent
care.
You
have
the
inmates
doesn't
say
it
in
the
resolution,
but
you
have
the
inmates
health
care,
and
then
you
have
what
we
term
Indigent
I
I.
Really
don't
like
that
word
by
the
way.
I,
don't
like
that
word
it
just.
O
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
have
issues
with
it,
but
that's
the
definition
but
health
care
for
those
who
are
less
fortunate
in
our
community.
At
the
same
time
and
I
say
again,
you
don't
have
Urgent
Care
unless
you
have
health
care
and
mental
health
care,
and
what
we're
proposing
to
move
forward
with
doesn't
really
cover
that
it
doesn't
really
cover
that
and
I'm
beginning
to
wonder.
If
we
just
need
to
follow
what
the
state,
the
state
models
of
reimbursement,
maybe
that
works
and
applies
to
everybody.
I
don't
know.
O
Yet
it
might
be
that
simple,
it
might
be
complex,
but
I
do
know
that
what
this
council
is
trying
to
do
is
to
make
sure
everybody
gets
an
opportunity
and
recognizing
what
our
two
Top
Care
Health
Providers,
are
doing
in
our
community,
because
some
of
these
recipients
of
these
rewards
don't
even
have
a
program
without
these
top-tier
health
care
providers.
That
doesn't
make
sense,
so
they
are
doing
this
stuff
in
our
community
and
they're
doing
it
on
their
own
dime
at
their
cost.
O
Because
if
you
talk
to
them,
they'll
tell
you
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
they're
doing
it,
and
certainly
they
can
apply
under
the
law.
They
enter
the
law
that
they
can
apply
for
funding
and
reimbursement,
but
it
still
doesn't
cover
what
they
do
in
our
community
and
I
say
it
again.
I
started
this
off.
Imagine
our
community
with
just
one
Hospital
or
losing
one
hospital.
We
are
so
fortunate
to
have
two
top-tier
Health
Care
Providers,
and
they
both
of
them
do
different
things
in
our
community,
but
one
does
not
work
without
the
other.
O
Relies
on
the
other
and
they've
rely
on
each
other
and
Pops.
You
know
this.
They
rely
on
each
other.
They
they
cross
serve
the
needs
there.
You
go,
that's
what
I
was
looking
for.
So
I
want
to
hear
what
my
colleagues
have
to
say.
But
that's
you
know,
that's
my
concern
that
we're
here
again
at
the
fork
in
the
road.
After
we
had
the
conversation
last
week,
I
understand
honestly
I
forgot
about
2023,
but
but
the
process
of
the
RFP
came
to
us
last
council
meeting.
O
That
was
it
and
evidently
we
were
going
forward
and
we
were
going
back
and
I
I
still
have
a
concern
with
that
and
and
look
there
may
be
some
of
these
entities
out
there.
That
might
have
an
issue
with
this,
but
we
would
be
asking
them
to
just
have
patience.
Let's
work
this
out,
let
us
get
it
taken
care
of
and
you'll
have
that
opportunity,
and
you
know
the
the
services
have
already
been
provided
in
2023
they've
already
been
paid
for
it's
just
a
reimbursement,
so
I
I
think
there's
a
workout
I
I.
O
Just
would
like
to
hear
my
other
colleagues
and
the
concerns
that
that
they
have
as
well,
because
this
is
it's
eye-opening
what
this
has
brought
to
the
Forefront
in
learning,
truly
how
we're
providing
care
in
our
community
for
those
that
that
need
it
or
less
fortunate.
Thank
you
mayor.
Q
Yes,
I
I
agree
with
you
counselor
Davis
in
reference
to
let's
get
in
it
right
and
and
sadly
yes,
we
didn't
well
whatever
happened
with
Saint
Francis,
not
being
able
to
meet
the
requirements
for
the
RFP
that
we
put
out.
It
will
help
not
only
Saint
Francis
but
Valley
Healthcare
as
well,
because
Dr
Asante
Hills.
Unfortunately,
she
wasn't
able
to
apply
because
she
had
just
transferred
from
our
Department
of
Health.
Q
So
it
would
just
help
that
we,
it's
fairness,
so
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
get
it
right,
slow
it
down
and
ensure
that
we're
not
being
too
stringent
with
the
RFP
process
and
just
being
fair
I
also
wanted
to
ask
Attorney
Clifton
Faye,
since
the
state
has
the
Indigent
care
model,
is
it
possible
for
us
to
what
will
be
the
process
to
change
it
to
maybe
Community
Health
Care
or
change
that
name
from
Indigent?
What
would
be
the
process
for
us
to
do.
Q
Okay
and
the
reason
why
I'm
asked
asking
because
of
what
counselor
Davis
mentioned,
some
counties
in
some
areas
don't
provide
the
Indigent
care
through
the
budget
through
the
city
budget.
So
this
is
something
in
my
opinion
that
we're
doing
as
a
really
showing
our
trying
to
help.
You
know
those
low-income
families.
So
there's
not
what
the
state
is
offering.
What
the
city
is
offering
the
Consolidated
Government
yeah.
H
E
H
Are
less
fortunate
and
have
or
happen
to
be
inmates
that
need
care,
but
it's
it's
up
to
you
going
forward
whether
you
put
out
a
new
RFP,
you
don't
have
to
that's
something.
Y'all
can
discuss
the
resolution
on
the
table.
Just
addresses
what
you
said
last
year
that
you
would
let
in
a
successful
bidders,
get
reimbursed.
That's
all
this.
Does
it
would
let
Piedmont
and
mercy
Med
apply
for
reimbursement.
Q
Yeah,
but
it
as
as
councilor
Davis
was
talking
about
for
us
getting
it
right,
ensuring
that
the
process
is
correct,
making
sure
what
councilor
cargo
mentioned
previous
meeting.
That
is
not
too
stringent
in
reference
to
the
application
process,
but
just
looking
at
it
and
actually
getting
it
right,
I
think
that's
where
we
are
right
now,
just
wanted
to
do
the
right
thing
for
our
providers.
S
I
think
that
last
time
Isaiah
you
mentioned,
you
were
surprised
that
it
just
took
me
completely
by
surprise.
I'll,
be
honest
with
you,
because
in
this
community
we're
really
blessed,
we
have
Saint
Francis,
we
have
Piedmont,
but
we
also
have
Valley.
Healthcare
I
did
speak
with
Dr
Sanjay
Hills.
There
are
a
number
of
organizations
so
we're
blessed
in
this
community,
but
you
know
the
communities,
the
organizations
that
have
done
so
much
over
the
Long
Haul.
They
need
to
be
compensated
for
for
all
the
working
for
their
finances.
S
I
was
shocked,
glad
that
Piedmont
and
mercy
Med.
Both
those
organizations
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
work,
but
there
are
also
other
organizations
involved
in
thanks
to
a
number
of
people.
I've
got
a
little
bit
more
educated,
I've
gotten
with
councilor
Davis
and
just
found
it
I
never
knew
half
the
things
that
we
know
now
about
the
model.
The
state
model
I've,
had
individuals
come
up
to
me
and
said:
why
was
Saint
Francis,
not
included,
I
told
them,
I
I
didn't
know
they
said
you
didn't
know.
Well
what?
S
Why
did
you
and
Council
make
the
I
said?
Well,
we
didn't
know
well,
who
did
we
don't
even
know
who
who
did-
and
we
should
know
and
I
would
like
for
Council
to
be
more
involved
in
the
process.
Now
that
we
do
have
a
there
is
a
state
model?
That's
there,
because
we
are
directly
responsible
to
the
people,
and
so
we
need
to
be
more
involved.
Everybody
knows
my
thing
is
health
care.
S
We
are
blessed
in
this
community
by
having
a
number
of
organizations
that
have
really
provided
and
Community
Care
has
a
nice
ring
to
it
like
energy
care
over
the
Long
Haul,
and
my
concern
is
that
they
need
to
be
reimbursed.
They
need
to
be
in
the
mix
with
this
right.
Here
we
have
the
monies
we
need
to
do.
What
I
think
is
the
right
thing,
and-
and
so
I
would
like
for
us
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
and
really
work
on
this
here.
S
What
I've
said
is
that
you
know
nothing's
perfect.
The
only
perfect
person
that
walked
Earth
is
a
good
Lord,
so
people
make
mistakes
in
organizations.
We
stumble
a
little
bit
on
things,
and
so
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
on
this
and
we
do
have
a
state
model,
something
that
I
didn't
realize
that
we
had,
and
that
would
be
my
input.
I
know.
I've
talked
to
a
number
of
the
counselors
here,
I
like
for
them
to
get
their
input.
S
So
that's
just
not
one
or
two
individuals
who
are
who
are
speaking
and
it's
interesting
Isaiah.
She
said
you
were
surprised,
so
you
were
and
I
mentioned
to
two
groups.
I
said
the
city
manager
delivery
kept
himself
out
because
he
doesn't
want
to
be
involved
in
that,
but
he
didn't
know
he
was
expecting
another
organization
to
have
applied,
and
so
it
just
shows
that
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
I
would
like
to
have
Council
input
counselors
to
be
involved
in
the
process
so
that
we
can
answer
the
questions.
S
We
don't
even
know
what
the
criteria
that
was
used.
You
know,
and
so
not
pointing
fingers
happy
that
the
other,
the
two
organizations
who
have
done
a
lot
in
this
community
Piedmont
Mercy
man.
But
there
are
other
organizations,
as
you
verbalize,
some
Isaiah,
that
that
you
were
surprised.
I
was
totally
surprised,
bye
and
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
start
back.
We
need
to
have
a
model
to
follow
that
all
the
organizations
can
come.
They
can
everything's
about
numbers
now.
S
So
it's
a
Level,
Playing
Field!
You
did
this
here.
You
can
prove
it
you've
done
this.
Then
you
get
this
slice
of
the
pie.
You've
done
this
here
and
you
get
this
size.
It
needs
to
be
a
process
that
I
feel
the
council
needs
to
be
involved
up
in.
So
we
can
ask
the
tough
questions
that
have
been
asked
of
me
and
I'm.
Positive
have
been
answered.
Some
of
the
other
counselors
as
well.
I
see
some
head
shaking
and
it
I
was
really
taking
her
back.
When
I
said
you,
you
weren't
involved
well,.
W
S
Just
explaining
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
community
I'm
just
letting
this
body
know
what
I
am
hearing
from
the
community,
so
it's
not
pointing
any
fingers
at
anyone
is
just
that
we
need
to
step
back,
take
a
breather
and
just
revisit
it
again.
W
I
was
surprised
that
certain
organizations
in
this
community
did
not
submit
an
interest
at
all,
and
that
surprised
me
and
so
I
wasn't
surprised
about
the
process.
You
know
it's.
Our
procurement
process
has
not
changed,
you
know
and
and
as
you
I
I
shared
with
you
last
meeting
and
I've
shared
with
you
in
all
of
my
past,
in
terms
of
my
career
city
manager,
I
do
not
get
involved
in
the
procurement
process.
W
I've
watched
people
go
to
jail
for
getting
involved
in
procurement
process.
I,
don't
want
to
be
involved
in
the
procurement
process
going
forward
and
when
I
say
not
involved,
we
have
a
procurement
law,
we
advertise
for
BS
or
requests
for
proposals,
and
when
we
do
that,
even
those
who
who
are
indicating
an
interest
sign
a
forward
signing
form
saying
they
will
not
talk
to
you
or
anyone
in
the
process
and
for
a
council
member
to
go
and
talk
to
someone
who.
W
It
plans
to
submit
a
a
an
interest.
We
need
to
read
the
procurement
law
and
say
and
see
what
it
says.
Council
members
should
not
be
involved
in
that
process.
I'm,
certainly
not
going
to
get
involved
in
that
process,
but
that's
up
to
council.
If
you
want
to
talk
to
vendors
and
who
are
expressing
an
interest
and
I've
watched,
all
you
got
to
do
is
Google
and
it
tells
you,
and
so
when
I
said,
I
was
surprised.
I
expected
certain
organizations
to
automatically
apply
because
of
where
and
who
they
provide
service
to.
W
They
are
in
the
heart
of
South
Columbus.
The
organization
that
I
was
surprised
and-
and
they
are
their
goal-
is
to
make
sure
that
people
get
health
care
who
are
uninsured
or
underinsured
or
otherwise.
Just
would
not
get
health
care
and
they
did
not
apply,
and
certainly
both
hospitals
applied
but
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into.
W
You
know
what's
what
they
submitted
for,
but
but
we
had
an
RFP,
it
went
out
and
and
they
applied-
and
there
was
an
evaluation
committee
as
we
do
with
all
and
and
they
brought
forward
their
recommendations.
It
went
on
my
agenda,
that's
when
I
bring
it
to
you,
I,
don't
call
the
hospitals,
or
their
representatives
have
discussion
with
them
prior
to
or
after
they
submit,
and
so
I
heard
the
question
about,
I
think
the
City
attorney.
W
There
was
three
meals
allocated
for
Indigent
care
and
for
30
years,
a
sole
source
Hospital
a
contract
signed
30
years
ago
had
that
contract.
It
expired
in
June
of
2021,
I
believe
for
2022.
W
We
had
two
and
a
half
meals.
Two
million
was
taken
to
do
the
roll
back
and
now
we're
working
with
what's
left
and
so
I
I'm
interested
in
hearing
all
of
the
discussion
any
and
all
were
disqualified
or
thrown
out
last
week.
X
A
a
echo
and
agree
with
all
of
my
my
colleagues
here,
just
I,
I
think
last
time
you
know
I
made
the
comment
that
I
thought
that
maybe
the
RFP
application
process
may
have
been
a
little
bit
stringent.
Would
we
be
able
to
see
in
addition
to
the
rrfp
packet,
I,
think
I
think
I
asked
for
it
maybe
last
week,
but
could
we
also
see
that
the
State
process
as
well
so
that
we
could
put
them
side
by
side?
X
That
way
we
can
kind
of
compare
the
two
processes
and
as
we
as
we
move
forward
and
take
what
take
what
we
like
out
of
our
RFP
process
and
add
it
to
that
state
the
state
process
as
well?
If
we
could
do
that,
that
would
be
great
yeah.
W
X
Well,
no
I
mean
I
think
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
see
them
side
by
side
so
that
we
can
see
what
the
state
says
and
then
what
our
RFP
process
says
so
that
we
can
compare
them
and
then
we
can
take
our
RFP
process
and
take
take
some
of
the
guidelines
out
of
the
state
or
maybe
maybe
we
just
throw
the
whole
RFP
process
out
of
out
and
just
use
the
state.
But
you
know
as
we
as
we
move
forward
and
create
something.
X
That's
our
own
I
think
it's
important
that
we
see
both
both
processes
side
by
side
so
that
we
can
build
the
most
efficient
ones.
Just
like
you
know,
if
you're
going
to
write
a
book
on
Amazon,
you
go
to
the
bad
reviews
and
you
look
at
what
people
want.
So
you
know
I
think
if
we,
if
we
can,
if
we
can
compare
the
two
I,
think
that
will
be
be
valuable
moving
forward.
So.
W
Yeah
I
can
have
staff
work
on
and
we
can
come
back
and
we
can
show
you
here's.
You
know
our
RFP
and
here's
the
state
and
and
side
by
side,
and
you
can
tell
us
where
you
want
to
go
with.
X
Then
Mr
City
attorney.
Can
we
make
a
note
before
we
move
forward
to
bring
that
name
change
up
on
the
legislative
agenda
in
October
to
to
the
Community
Health
Care,
Program
or.
R
R
Then
we
can
start
just
Distributing
funds
when
you
know
in
the
resolution
that
we
had
last
year
last
what
it
states
the
award
will
not
be
limited
to
one
agency,
but
is
expected
to
allow
a
wide
range
of
Health
Care
Facilities
to
participate
in
the
Indigent
Care
Program
Health,
Care
Program,
so
I
think
that
using
an
RFP
process
goes
counter
to
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish,
because
an
RFP
process
whittles
down
and
limits,
and
we
do
not
want
any
limitation
except
that
the
funds
that
we
distribute
will
be
distributed
for
the
care
of
Muskogee
County
residents.
R
R
We
can
fund
them
and
that's
why
I'm
really
interested
in
getting
some
more
information
about
the
way,
the
state
program,
because
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
to
that
anybody
can,
if
I,
if
I,
understand
what
it
is,
I'm
wondering
if
it's
more
like
an
insurance
claim
where
they
put
they
put
in
a
claim
that
they
did.
This
type
of
services-
this
is
the
bill
it
comes
to
us.
We,
the
criteria
is
that
their
Muskogee
County
residents
and
they
were
provided
Health
Care,
Services,
they're
Indigent
their
health
care
services
within
a
certain
period
of
time.
R
Then
we
reimburse
them
so
I
if
the.
If
the
the
other
advantage
of
using
the
state
program
is
the
hospitals
are
used
to
it.
These
Pro,
these
programs
they're
used
to
the
state
program
for
getting
reimbursed,
and
so
they
don't
have
to
learn
a
new
process
they're
already
using
this
process
we
want
to
be,
we
want
to
be
friendly
to
the
hospitals.
We
don't
want
to
create
more
burdens.
We
want
to
lessen
their
burdens,
that's
the
whole
Pro.
That's
the
whole
goal
of
this
process
is
to
take
away
some
of
their
financial
burdens.
R
We
don't
certainly
don't
want
to
add
bureaucratic
and
paperwork
burdens
to
them
in
the
process.
So
I'd
really
really
look
forward
to
investigating
more
I'd,
really
like
you
to
investigate
that
more
and
see
if
that's
not
a
better
way
of
doing
it
than
the
RFP
process
me
personally,
I
I
don't
want
us
to
use
an
RFP
process
on
this,
just
because
I
don't
think
that
that's
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
this.
S
To
your
question-
and
you
mentioned
you-
don't
think
counselors
should
be
involved.
It
is
I
just
want
to
be
sure
if
I
understood
that.
W
S
E
S
Counseling,
here
now
and
and
so
I
had
to
honestly
said,
I
I,
don't
know
and
I
think
that
we
know
the
Departments.
We
know
the
Departments
and
then
the
other
question
is:
what
criteria
did
you
use
and
Mr
City
attorney,
I?
Think
for
individuals
who
are
up
here
who
represent
the
citizens
we
should
know.
We
should
know
what
the.
H
You
don't
inject
yourself
into
an
RFP
process,
whether
you're
the
city
manager,
the
mayor
or
a
counselor,
because
then
people
can
accuse
you
of
obtaining
the
process.
That's
the
only
point
the
city
manager
is
making.
If
there's
a
formal
RFP
out
on
the
street,
then
counselors
normally
do
not
get
involved
in
the
process.
They
wait
until
it
comes
back
with
a
recommendation
for
a
particular
vendor,
and
that's
all
we're
talking
about
is
so.
The
process
is
not
tainted.
There's
no
appearance
of
a
conflict
or
anything
else
as
simple
as
that
and.
W
S
I'm
not
saying
I
I
would
like
to
know.
If
people
ask
me
sure
where
was
Saint
Francis
at,
why
was
Saint
Francis
left
out,
I,
don't
have
the
answer
to
that
I
understand
and
and
I'm,
not
disputing
the
other
two
of
them.
They
do
phenomenal
in
the
community,
but
I
think
when
you,
when
you're
thinking
about
Valley
Health
Care,
all
that
it
does.
W
S
S
S
S
W
And
no
argument,
that's
why
I
say
we
want
to
be
guided
by
your
direction.
Tell
us
what
you
want
us
to
do:
we're
going
to
bring
what
councilor
kova
said:
we're
going
to
put
State
side
by
side
with
City
and
whatever
I
mean
we've
already
eliminated
or
any
and
all
bids
were
refused
and
now
we're
headed
in
a
New
Direction
and
whatever
comes
out
as
that
Direction.
That's
what
we're
going
to
do
right.
S
And
I
know
that
and
that's
why
I'm
bringing
it
up
now
yeah,
but
but
I
agonize
I
didn't
want
this
to
but
turn
out
yeah
that
we're.
We
feel
that
the
administration
is
not
doing
the
job
yeah.
S
S
I'll,
let
you
handle
that,
but
I
think
I'm
talking
enough
right
now
now
some
of
you
other
counselors
need
to
step
up
and
verbalize
your
concerns.
Like
everybody
knows
me,
I
wonder
what
you
know
what's
on
my
mind
and
so
I'm
not
about
pointing
fingers
and.
W
And
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
and
I'm
glad
you
made
that
point,
because
staff
has
done
exactly
what
they
should
have
done
and
brought
it
forward
in
in
the
way
that
should
have
been
brought
forward
and
so
and
as
we
got
into
the
table,
there
were
questions
and
we
want
to
answer
those
questions.
S
Done
excellent
work,
I
agree
with
you
150
yeah,
but
now
we're
starting
back
from
that's
right
round
one,
that's
right
and
we're
moving
forward.
Yes,
okay,
I'd
like
for
you
to
address
the
issue
with
the
counselors
and
why
you
think
I'd
like
for
you
to
tell
us,
tell
me
legally
what
is
the
legal
guideline
that
counselors
cannot
have
be
involved.
S
H
Oh,
what
what
I
said
a
minute
ago
is
the
general
rule
counselors
as
a
legislative
body,
do
not
get
involved
in
the
details
of
an
RFP
or
contact
potential
vendors
out
there,
because
that
might
give
rise
to
an
appearance
of
a
conflict
or
an
appearance
that
the
process
is
Tainted.
That's
why
counselors?
Normally
it's
a
good
rule
of
thumb
just
to
stay
out
of
any
RFP.
That's
on
the
street.
S
H
B
Yeah,
not
an
attorney,
but
my
my
opinion
is
because
we
have
seen
issues
with
other
vendors
I
know.
Councilor
crab
was
in
the
middle
of
one
that
she
didn't
really
do
anything
unusual
except
do
her
job,
but
because
it
was
communication
prior
to
the
time
that
the
contract
was
let
there
was
a
lot
of
accusations
thrown
at
her.
So
I,
don't
think
that
a
city
manager
I,
don't
believe
that
a
mayor
I
don't
believe
that
a
counselor
ought
to
have
any
communication
with
anybody
who's
actively
engaged
in
a
in
a
an
RFP
process.
B
To
take
it
a
little
further
one
of
the
issues
that
has
been
talked
about
for
years,
30
years
has
been
the
length
and
how
this
contract
was
tied
together
and
there
wasn't
any
wiggle
room.
There
wasn't
any
opportunity
to
reevaluate
or
to
renew,
and
one
I
think
this
these
for
two
year,
two
year
stretches
and
then
you've
got
an
opportunity
to
renew
it,
and
that
was
done
because
if
you
got
in
a
situation
where
somebody
came
running
to
a
counselor
or
to
a
mayor
and
they've
come
to
me
too
I
tell
them
the
same
thing.
B
They
asked
me
why
wasn't
I
said:
you'll
have
to
ask
them
or
you'll
you'll
have
to
wait
until
the
RFP
is
completed,
to
hear
how
who
scored
and
who,
who
was
was
included
in
the
providers,
but
I
just
think
it
is
a
I
think
it's
an
incredibly
risky
move
for
Council
to
get
involved
in
any
piece
of
a
process
from
an
RFP,
because
you've
opened
yourself
and
you've
opened
a
city
up
to
claims
of
of
conflict
of
interest,
even
though
there
won't
be
any
I
I.
B
Just
I
have
heard
it
from
the
city
attorney
and
I've
heard
it
from
other
folks
through
GMA
and
and
other
areas
that
we
talk
about
you
just
don't
it
it's
up
to
the
individual
counselors,
but
that
it
it's
a
dangerous,
dangerous
road
to
go
down.
Y
F
M
I
hope
that
by
all
of
this
conversation,
the
folks
who
are
dealing
with
this
understand
that
our
concern
is
the
process.
How
is
an
RFP
developed?
How
is
it
put
out
for
applicants?
How
is
it
done?
What
is
what
is
the
process?
M
I
agree
with
my
colleagues
who
say:
let's
take
a
look
at
how
this
is
done
in
other
places,
I'm
not
at
this
point
at
10,
whatever
it
is
38
on
today,
necessarily
interested
in
how
we
came
about
with
the
RFP
that
we
voted
down
last
week.
Our
question
was:
how
did
we
get
there
and
what
I
would
like
to
see
from
the
city
manager's
office
educate
us
tell
us
what
the
process
is.
M
I
personally
have
been
contacted
over
the
years
I've
been
on
Council
by
vendors,
who
say:
hey
I
got
a
you
know:
I
got
a
in
into
an
RFP
and
I
won't
say:
I
can't
talk
to
you
about
that
at
all.
I
gotta
I
have
to
wait
until
I
get
a
recommendation
from
the
people
who
do
that.
But
what
I
want
to
know
is
how
do
you
get
to
giving
me
a
recommendation?
M
What
is
the
process
that
you
use,
and
this
is
not
something
that
I'm
asking
you
to
do
right
now
off
the
top
of
your
head.
I
want
a
I,
want
a
presentation.
I
want
the
the
here's,
the
state,
here's,
the
local
here's,
how
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
say,
go
forth
and
and
do
what
do
your
duty,
whether
or
not
that
finally
comes
down
to
the
same
two
vendors
that
were
on
the
original
RFP
that
you
brought
to
us.
M
I've
been
dealing
with
a
number
of
issues
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
and
one
of
the
pieces
of
advice
I
have
gotten
over
and
over
and
over
again
from
the
same
person.
Quite
frankly
is
what
does
the
book
say?
What
does
your
process
say?
Do
that,
and
so
what
I
want
to
know
from
the
city
manager's
office
and
his
staff,
give
us
a
a
presentation
at
our
next
council
meeting.
M
If
you
need
it
to
do
that
on
how
we
get
to
the
point
of
having
a
an
RFP
brought
to
us,
and
when
you
do
that,
we
can
then
make
some
decisions,
and
we
can
tell
those
folks
who
are
calling
to
us
saying
how
come
this
vendor
didn't,
get
it.
How
come
that
vendor
didn't
get
it
well.
Here's
the
process,
I
can't
do
that
confidential
I
mean
with
a
lot
of
confidence
right
now.
So
that's
my
that's.
My
request
is
that
we
do
and
I
notice
on
the
updates
and
presentations.
M
There
is
an
Indigent
care
update,
I'm,
not
asking
for
that
today.
In
fact,
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
we
not
have
that
today
that
we
have,
at
our
next
council
meeting
a
presentation
on
how
we
get
an
RFP
done.
Let's
go
buy
the
book.
O
Davis
and
mayor
I
want
to
make
a
motion
that
we
and
I
think
we
can
do
it
at
the
table
here,
Mr
City
attorney,
but
that
we
carry
over
the
amount
of
money
to
be
added
to
2024.
So
all
it
means
is
that
there's
just
going
to
be
a
bigger
pot
of
money
and
people
can
still
apply
and
be
reimbursed.
It's
just
a
greater
amount.
O
But
at
the
same
time,
I
said
this
earlier:
I
do
recognize
the
need
to
take
care,
there's
an
inmate
health
care
component
to
this
that
you
know
it's
not
stated
in
the
resolution
and
I'm
sure
we
probably
didn't
have
updates
on
that,
but
it
is
in
there
and
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
that
we
go
ahead
and
address
that,
because
that
that
to
me
is
a
reimbursement
of
a
service
that
we
we
asked
for.
O
I,
don't
know
what
that
figure
is
I,
don't
know,
but
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
pay
that
bill.
If
that's,
what
we're
doing
pay
that
bill
and
then
roll
the
remaining
amount
over
and
like
counselor
Thomas
said
we
can
work
on
the
model
and
I
prefer
doing
at
a
later
date.
I
do
want
to
clear
up
two
things:
the
the
part
about
counselor
involvement.
I
know
it
was
brought
up,
but
I
I
I
want
to
go
on
the
record
and
say
no
I,
don't
think.
O
There's
no
counselor
on
this
body
that
has
participated
prior
to
the
meeting
was
it
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago.
Was
it
last
week.
Okay,
that
was
the
first
time
we
saw
that
RFP
the
first
time.
That's
why
that
conversation
was
kind
of
you
know
a
little.
You
know
back
and
forth,
but
we
kept
saying
we
didn't
want
to
get
deep
into
weeds,
but
we
had
concerns.
We
had
concerns
and
council
is
allowed.
O
Council
is
allowed
to
cancel
that
RPM.
We
did
and
I
think
notices
went
right
out.
Everybody
knows,
after
that,
it's
public
when
that
RFP
was
posted.
It
was
public
but
I.
Think
that's.
When
the
concern
started
and
we've
had
a
short
I
said
earlier:
we've
had
a
short
time
period
of
time
to
catch
up,
but
we've
learned
a
lot,
but
I
would
like
to
have
that
conversation
about
a
model.
We
do
need
to
figure
it
out.
O
We
need
to
figure
out
I
can't
sit
here
and
tell
you
how
I'm
not
adding
up
how
some
people
got
left
out
notice.
They
all
do
good
work.
Okay,
they
all
do
good
work
and
we
got
good
people.
No,
no,
that's
not
an
issue,
but
it
just
brings
in
mind.
You
know
and
I
read
the
resolution
to
you.
The
resolution
is
I
mean
it
states
it
right
here.
It
says
the
bid
request:
a
wide
range
of
Professional
Medical
Services
to
qualified
Indigent
residents.
O
Okay,
it
says
that
the
award
will
not
be
limited
to
just
one
agency,
but
is
expected
to
allow
a
wide
range
of
Health
Care
Facilities
to
participate
when
I.
When
I
saw
that
and
read
that
I
I
really
believed
in
my
heart
that
everybody
was
going
to
get
some
help.
Everybody
was
going
to
be
able
to
get
some
support
and,
like
I
said
when
you
start
thinking
about
your
two
top-tier
Health
Care
Providers,
your
two
hospitals
without.
O
You
don't
have
engine
care,
I'm,
sorry,
but
you
just
don't
have
energy
care
and
you
even
look
at
some
of
the
qualifications
from
the
Department
of
Behavioral
Health
it.
You
know
that
increased
stability
in
housing,
individuals,
whose
living
situation
is
homeless
in
or
out
of
shelter,
shall
experience
greater
stability
in
housing.
O
Engaging
the
homeless
individuals
who
are
reported
as
homeless,
shall
access
services
without
barriers
related
to
the
homelessness,
improving
access
to
health
care
and
other
benefits.
Individuals
will
experience
improved
rates
of
Access
to
Health,
Care,
Medicaid
or
Medicare
and
other
benefits
that
they
may
not
be
eligible
or
eligible
for,
and
that
tells
me
right
there.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
our
community.
O
W
O
Talking
about
Glenn
Davis
is
wrestling
with
the
matter
of
that
okay,
and
it
calls
that's
part
of
engine
care.
That's
what
the
argument,
not
the
argument,
it's
just
what
I'm
trying
to
connect
the
dots
here,
okay
with
the
RFP
process
well
and
and
but
I-
did
want
to
stay
again
for
the
record
that
no
counselor
I
think
it's
been
very
clear
up
here
about
involvement
and
getting
involved
in
rfps.
We
know
that
we
that
doesn't
even
have
to
be
stated,
but
nobody
was
involved.
Sure
and.
E
W
Council
Council.
We
want
to
make
sure
where
people
involved
and
I'm
saying
when
I
say
involved
when
we
release
when
when
I
we
released
an
RFP,
do
not
call
me
and
ask
if
I
can
help.
You
do
not
call
me
and
ask
if
you
can
meet
with
me
to
talk
about
it,
don't
make
contact
with
me,
because
if
you
do
I'm
going
to
report
you
to
finance
because
you
signed
the
form
and
and
and
I
want
to
add
councilor
Thomas
said
it
best.
Follow
the
book
since
I
had
the
date.
W
W
O
City
manager
and
where
we're
going
we're
following
the
book
and
that's
all
I'm
saying
I,
just
don't
want
the
public
when
they
hear
things
like
that,
they're
looking
at
which
Council,
which
council
member
got
involved,
which
council
member
did
that.
So
you
got
to
be
careful
how
you
state
those
words
and
I
just
want
for
the
record
to
let
everybody
know
that
didn't
happen
with
this.
It's
a
whole
different
concern,
and,
quite
frankly,
this
Council
has
never
dealt
with
a
matter
like
this
of
this
magnitude,
Wells
I'm,
sure
Millions.
What
well
and
12.5
million
dollars.
O
We've
never
dealt
with
anything
like
this
to
try
to
get
it
right,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
providing
those
services
like
I,
just
read
That's
party
in
Jakir
and
a
valuable
component
in
our
community
that
we're
trying
to
address
and
I
get
the
feeling
that
we're
not
doing
that.
So
we
need
to
look
at
it
and
make
sure.
If
there's
any
question,
we
can
cover
those
voices
and.
W
Mayor
I
do
want
the
deputy
city
manager
to
make
comments,
but
the
one
thing
I
can
assure
you
is
that
they
follow.
B
F
You
mayor
I,
just
wanted
to
clarify
I.
Think
City
attorney
will
agree
with
me.
Just
for
the
Public's
knowledge.
No
one
at
this
table
had
anything
to
do
with
a
30-year
contract
that
we
had
that
started
in
I,
believe
92..
So
we
didn't
have
a.
We
didn't,
have
any
involvement
in
that
city
manager
was
employed
with
the
city,
but
he
was
not
in
the
city
manager's
office,
so
I
just
wanted
for
the
Public's
knowledge
that
we
didn't
have
any
engagement
in
that
I.
F
Think
City
attorney
worked
in
the
city
attorney's
office
at
the
time
that
the
contract
was
put
in
place
and
during
the
90s,
but
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
that
was
the
process
and
the
term
mental
health
was
brought
up.
I.
Don't
think
that
that
the
term
mental
health
was
at
a
high
level
to
then
as
it
is
today,
so
that
that
may
be
why
it
wasn't
discussed
or
mentioned
specifically
in
the
contract.
F
I
think
we
do
need
more
information.
We
need
better
understanding
of
how
we're
moving
on
this
and,
what's
involved
in
the
process,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
the
Public's
knowledge
that
who
was
involved
and
who
voted
on
it
and
that
that
time.
Thank
you
mayor.
S
I
think
Judy
summed
everything
up
really
what
we
need
to
know
the
process,
because
who
are
the
people
asking
they're
asking
us,
so
we
should
know
about
that.
That's
one
and
there's
an
expression
that
there
is
no
health
without
Mental
Health.
That's
it
and
I've
been
asked
that
and
it's
my
responsibility
to
bring
an
answer
to
it,
so
not
pointing
fingers
I'm
glad
we're
starting
from
Ground
Zero.
But
to
your
point,
yes,
we
need
to
know
the
process,
so
we
can
answer
so
we
can
give
what
we
know
now.
S
You've
heard
it's
not
just
me,
it's
other
members
of
the
council
as
well,
and
so
once
we
get
online
with
that
we're
starting
from
ground
zeros
and
two
something
that
Glenn
mentioned.
He
mentioned
the
fact
of
individual
organizations
that
have
done
and
all
of
us
or
some
of
them
that
I've
done
over
the
Long
Haul
taking
care
of
the
agency.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
now
know
there's
going
to
be
a
start
point
where
they
can
apply.
Z
Just
wanted
to
make
a
few
comments
and
I
hear
everything
that
council's
saying
and
I
completely
understand
and
appreciate
the
position
that
you've
been
in,
but
I
do
want
to
just
outline
a
few
things.
The
presentation
that
I
had
today
that's
on
the
city.
Manager's
agenda
really
walk
through
the
components
of
the
RFP
and
how
the
development
happened
and
I'll
go
through
that.
Z
If
Council
wishes
to
hear
that
or
not,
but
you
know
we
had
30
years
of
providing
lump
sum
payments
to
one
entity
and
we
heard
Council,
we
heard
them
say
we
don't
want
to
do
it
that
way
anymore,
so
the
RFP
was
developed
based
on
reviewing
other
rfps
throughout
the
state
and
how
they
structure
their
Indigent
care
programs.
So
that's
how
our
RFP
was
developed
and
I
will
say
without
talking
specifically
about
the
proposals
that
were
submitted,
not
every
proposal
that
was
submitted.
Could
we
negotiate
a
rate.
Z
Our
request
in
the
RFP
was,
the
rate
would
be
a
percentage
of
Medicaid
rates.
For
example,
if
you
had
a
service
that
paid
at
a
Medicaid
rate,
twenty
dollars
we
wanted
to
know,
are
you
going
to
expect
reimbursement
at
Medicaid
rates
or
at
110
percent
of
Medicaid
rates?
Not
every
proposal
that
was
submitted?
Could
we
negotiate
any
kind
of
rate
with
them
without
mentioning
any
specific
vendor?
Also
not
every
provider
that
submitted
a
proposal
displayed
the
capability
and
the
ability
to
provide
reporting
and
invoicing
in
the
format
that
was
requested.
Z
So
we
felt
that
there
were
some
that
couldn't
meet
the
expectations
of
the
finance
department
and
how
they
wish
to
reimburse
those
individual
companies
for
Indigent
care.
We
weren't
just
going
to
write
a
check
for
two
million
dollars
and
say
take
care
of
the
Indigent.
It
was
on
a
reimbursement
basis,
not
every
provider
displayed
the
ability
to
do
that.
Also
not
every
proposal
submitted
was
for
all
services.
Some
proposals
only
wanted
to
do
one
particular
service
and
would
not
provide
a
specific
rate
for
that
service.
Z
That's
why
the
committee
did
not
feel
comfortable,
making
a
recommendation
to
council
to
fund
that
particular
proposal.
So
there
are
reasons
that
the
only
two
vendors
that
were
submitted
were
recommended
by
the
committee
without
getting
into
any
more
specifics
and
I'll
be
I'm
happy
to
go
through
the
requirements
of
the
RFP
I
sent
to
council
after
the
last
meeting
the
presentation,
as
well
as
the
RFP.
So
you
can
see
all
the
details,
the
information
that
we
requested
the
services,
how
to
qualify
individuals
for
the
Indigent
Care
Program,
what
the
expectation
was.
Z
We
also
met
with
each
one
of
the
the
entities
that
submitted
a
proposal.
We
had
a
zoom
meeting.
We
asked
them
to
provide
us
a
walk-through
tour
virtually
of
the
facility
that
they
would
provide
care
to
the
engine
so
that
we
could
see
without
taking
an
actual
tour
of
their
facility.
Some
of
us
were
not
familiar
with
everyone
that
submitted
a
proposal,
so
we
felt
like
we
did
a
very
thorough
job
in
evaluating
the
proposals
that
were
submitted
to
us
granted
I
expected
to
to
see
a
few
others
submit.
Z
But
we
worked
with
there's
deadlines
in
an
RFP.
I
am
a
rural
follower
till
the
day,
I
die
I'm,
going
to
follow
the
rules,
and
we
can
only
evaluate
what
is
submitted
To
Us
by
the
deadline,
and
so
we're
happy
to
review
the
RFP
change
the
RFP
to
meet
the
expectations
of
council.
We
are
we'll
do
whatever
Council
desires
us
to
do.
Z
H
H
Z
Spawn
one
more
item
on
the
inmate
part
of
the
RFP
process
was
treatment
of
inmates
and
the
rate
to
establish
how
those
Services
would
be
billed
to
the
city
for
treatment
of
in
of
inmates,
and
so
that
was
part
of
what
was
recommended
to
Council
in
the
two
vendors
that
submitted
proposals.
One
of
them
would
provide
services
to
inmates
at
a
particular
rate
without
the
RFP.
It
does
not
require
that
vendor
to
charge
us
a
particular
rate.
So
when
we
receive
the
inmate
invoice,
I
I
don't
know
what
it
will.
Z
E
W
300,
but
with
what
we
have
brought
forward
is
negotiated,
that's
correct
and
they
are
limited
in
what
they
can
invoice
us
once
we
enter
that
agreement
with
them,
and
so,
and
you
made
the
point
about
not
revealing
any
information,
some
of
the
others
that
were
interested,
that
we
had
a
standard
for
charges.
That
would
we
would
be
able
to
control
and
they
did
not
submit
or
acknowledge.
W
B
All
right,
councilor
Davis
go
ahead.
You
stated
the.
H
AA
H
O
So
it
automatically
carries
over
okay,
well,
miss
city
manager,
I,
would
probably
recommend
going
and
sitting
down
if
you
believe
that
there
were
Services
incurred
based
on
our
inmate
care,
like
we've
done
in
the
past
for
years,
then
I
think
it's
appropriate.
We
pay
our
bill,
maybe
sit
down
and
have
that
conversation
and
then
come
back
to
us
and
share
us
with
us
what
what
was
presented
or
what
you've
arrived
at
and
if
you
think
it's
fair
enough,
I
mean
I
think
we
can
have
that
conversation,
but
I
do
believe.
O
We
need
to
take
care
of
that
aspect
of
it
and
you
can
make
the
argument,
even
though,
that
that
the
other
health
care,
top-tier
health
care
provider
provide
services
as
well
to
the
to
the
inmate.
But
you
know
I'm
I'm
I'm
willing
to
address
that
as
we
move
forward
into
the
future
model
that
we
can
all
agree
on.
That
would
would
help
an
assistant
cover
that.
Z
O
W
She's
you're
making
the
point
that
if
a
particular
Hospital
someone
provides
a
service,
we
pay
them.
Yes,
yes,
yeah,
whether
they
are
in
or
part
of
we've
already
paid
them.
No,
no,
no,
no
she's
making
a
point
that
if
they
provide
a
service,
let's
say
someone
who
did
not
get
recommended
to
you
and-
and
we
take
them
to
that
provider
for
service
and
inmate,
we're
going
to
pay
that
bill.
They've
already
been
paid.
No.
O
W
O
H
All
right
item
six,
then,
is
tabled
no
action.
Today,
the
money
remains
in
the
energy
care
trust
fund
for
from
the
previous
fiscal
year
going
forward
mayor.
The
next
item
we've
got
is
a
resolution
that
would
allow
either
competitive
sale
or
negotiated
sale
of
Hospital
authority
of
Columbus
arms.
The
market
conditions
were
not
favorable
a
few
months
ago,
when
we
were
here
with
the
finance
experts
and
we're
asking
for
this
flexibility.
This
will
allow
them
either
a
competitive,
sale
or
negotiated
sale.
H
B
Motion,
second,
to
prove
the
resolution,
any
discussion,
all
right,
Chris,
you'll,
cue:
it
counselors!
You
register
your
votes.
H
All
right
that
is
passed.
Thank
you,
gentlemen,
for
your
patience.
Thank
you
guys.
I
have
the
only
other
item.
We
would
request,
have
several
requests
for
executive
session
on
litigation,
potential
litigation,
real
estate
acquisition
and
Disposal
and
personnel
whenever
council's
ready
for
that,
but
that's
all
we
had
listed
okay.
B
All
right,
we'll
move
forward
to
the
public
agenda,
remind
everybody
that
you'll
have
five
minutes
to
address
counsel
and
if
you
don't
have
enough
time
to
get
through
what
you
want
to
talk
about.
You're
welcome
to
come
back
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
after
the
clerk's
agenda
for
an
additional
three
minutes
and
if
you
would
just
come
up
and
give
your
your
name
and
your
state
of
residence
is
all
we'll
need
at
the
podium
today
versus
Miss
Sarah
Carter.
Regarding
the
overgrown
trees
and
bushes
on
the
neighboring
property.
B
B
W
B
W
Approved
and
mayor
council
on
item
two
I've
got
I
see
that
Kathy
Williams
is
here,
but
this
is
a
state
of
Georgia
Department
of
Community
Affairs,
Equity
Fund,
rural
Workforce,
housing,
application
for
Naval
works
and
we
are
asking
Council
to
approve
a
or
requesting
you
allow
us
to
apply
and
if
awarded
accept
state
of
Georgia
Department
of
Community
Affairs
Equity
Fund
rural
Workforce,
Housing
Initiative
on
behalf
of
Naval
Works
Columbus
by
the
amount
awarded.
AB
Just
here
for
any
questions,
I
mean
it's
pretty
self-explanatory.
We're
going
to
apply
for
this
grant
it'll
allow
us
to
offset
what
we
would
use
for
the
tax
allocation
District,
so
we
won't
have
to
use
those
funds
if
we're
able
to
get
this
infrastructure
Grant.
So
it's
our
you
know
it's
our
effort
to
try
to
alleviate
the
city's
encumbering
of
the
real
estate
taxes
on
Elliot's,
walk.
AB
B
W
Appreciate
it,
thank
you
for
being
here
Kathy
and,
and
let
me
just
say
Kathy
if
you'll
come
back,
I,
don't
know
that
you
have
appeared
at
this
Council
since
you
were
put
on
the
Georgia
Department
of
Transportation
board
is.
Is
that
true
is.
W
AB
Thank
you
very
much.
I've
enjoyed
the
last
I
guess
it's
four
months
now,
I'm
serving
the
constituents
of
this
community
as
well
as
a
much
wider
community
and
congressional
district
too
I've
seen
some
absolutely
beautiful
countryside
that
I
had
never
been
in
before
I've
met,
some
fabulous
people
and
I'm
learning
a
lot
about
transportation
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
each
of
you
on
your
needs,
because
that's
what
I
am
on
the
dot
board?
AB
I'm
your
liaison
I'm,
your
your
contact
to,
apparently
all
things
Transportation,
so
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
O
O
O
Neighbor
works
and
Elliot's
way
the
growth
there
and
continue
the
progress,
because
I
they're,
probably
I've,
driven
by
there
a
few
times,
and
it
looks
like
they're-
probably
going
to
be
getting
into
the
next
phase
soon
and-
and
you
know
we-
we
might
want
to
try
to
find
some
creative
ways
to
to
help
that
happen.
Yeah.
AB
Quickly
address
that,
thank
you
very
much
counselor.
We
do
have
2.3
million
dollars
in
debt
for
that
Tad.
It's
a
difficult
interest
rate
environment
to
be
in
right
now
and
carry
that
debt.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
we
are
looking
for
this
type
of
an
opportunity
with
this
grant,
but
you're
right.
Yes,
sir,
we
we
are
beginning
phase
two
as
we
speak,
we've
put
up
21
homes
in
Elliot's,
walk
20
for
sale.
One
is
house
house
which
is
the
First
Baptist
Church
home
and
I'm
happy
to
tell
you
that
all
have
sold
except
three.
AB
We
have
three
left
and
they've
just
come
out
of
the
ground.
So
it's
incredibly
successful.
It
is
the
first
significant
single
family
development
in
District
Seven
since
the
end
of
Vietnam,
so
we're
very
proud
of
it.
We
invite
all
of
you
to
come
out
and
see
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
Counselor
Davis
thank.
W
B
W
We
have
an
anonymous
donor,
donating
500
to
each
of
well
three
Public
Safety
agencies,
the
police
department,
Sheriff,
Fire,
EMS,
and-
and
it's
just
it's
a
gesture
of
special
thanks
to
our
Public
Safety
agencies,
and
they
just
wanted
to
do
something
nice,
and
so
we
appreciate
citizens
organizations
stepping
up
and
doing
this
kind
of
thing.
Okay,.
B
W
All
right,
so
I've
got
a
couple
of
purchases.
B
W
Yes,
I've
got
fuel
purchases
for
fiscal
year
24..
You
know
we
go
out
and
get
an
average
a
fuel
price
on
a
daily
basis
and
we
go
with
the
best,
a
fewer
price,
and
so
they
went
through
a
process
and
for
Metro
Public,
Works,
Parks
and
Rec
and
others
to
make
sure
we
get
the
best
fuel
price.
W
Then
we
have
federal
and
state
mandated
fees
for
for
the
fiscal
year
to
make
sure
that
we
get
all
those
fees
taking
care
of
in
a
timely
manner
and
example
of
fees
that
we
pay
to.
The
federal
government
or
state
would
be
air
emission
fees
or
state
alternative
fuel
and
Highway
impact
fees,
Solid
Waste,
Disposal
fees
and
a
number
of
others
that
we
have
to
pay
on
an
annual
basis
and
then
for
the
Columbus
Police
Department.
W
We've
got
acts
on
Virtual
training
system
for
the
Columbus
Police
Department,
and
this
is
a
system
that
offers
training
for
police
officers
on
how
to
handle
several
different
types
of
encounters
with
the
public
and
suspects
to
include
violent
crime.
Intervention
I've
got
integrated,
ballistic
identification
system
for
the
police
department
and
and
then
e
I've
got
concrete.
Slabs
for
exterior
exercise
equipment
that
will
be
for
Brit
David,
Park,
Cooper,
Creek
and
Rigdon
Park.
Those
are
the
purchases.
I've
got
a
few
updates
that
I
want
to
have
with
Council
today
and.
AC
Thank
you,
Mr
city
manager,
good
morning,
mayor
pro
team
members
of
council,
just
a
real
brief
update,
I've
been
coming
every
meeting
just
to
keep
everybody
in
the
loop
on
the
progress
of
relocations
to
City
Hall.
So
we
still
are
in
in
our
phase
one
moves
again:
the
building
obtained
its
certificate,
democracy,
June
9th
starting
the
week
of
June
19th.
AC
We
started
moving
departments,
you
can
see
all
those
departments,
the
I.T
Finance
Cooperative,
Extension,
job
training,
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
the
human
resources
department
have
moved
into
City
Hall
and
are
open
for
business
that
time
they
still
are
unpacking.
So
it
is
still
a
work
in
progress,
but
they
are
there
and
open
for
business.
AC
So
here's
just
the
chart
saying
that
same
thing.
Again,
all
those
departments
on
the
top
have
relocated
and
are
now
open
at
City
Hall
phase.
Two
again
Synovus
will
vacate
the
executive
building
July
31
of
2024.
Some
renovation
work
will
occur
until
early
2025
and
then
all
of
these
departments
will
Shuffle
again
in
2025..
AC
I
didn't
want
to
bring
one
issue
that
we've
been
experiencing
at
the
facility
to
your
attention.
These
are
some
pictures
from
the
stairwell
in
the
parking
garage
since
the
stairwell
is
open
to
the
public.
We
are
accessible
to
the
public.
We
have
had
some
issues
with
trash
and
some
other
problems
in
the
stairwells
and
other
parts
of
the
garage,
and
we
do
anticipate
this
being
an
issue
as
it's
open
to
the
public.
X
Can
you
just?
Can
you
remind
us
mostly
just
because
I
know
that
several
of
my
constituents
are
watching
when
the
parking
deck
is
expected
to
be
open.
AC
W
S
Thank
you
for
last
night,
I
really
appreciate
that
got
some
feedback
from
Candace.
S
S
Yes,
it
was,
it
cleared
up
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
had
and
I
appreciate
you
and
and
the
two
individuals
taking
the
time
and
sitting
down
and
explaining
to
us
how
things
actually
work
and
I
know,
but
the
other
council
members
I
know
in
some
gray
areas
that
they,
but
you
you
definitely
took
the
time
to
clear
that
I
want
to
thank
you
and
thank
them
as
well.
Q
Yes,
in
reference
to
phase
two,
so
we're
saying
that
no
other
departments
within
the
government
center
will
be
moving
into
the
Synovus
building.
Only
the
ones
that
we
have
listed
right
now
are
the
ones
that's
moving
in
this
phase.
One.
AC
Yes,
that's
correct.
All
of
the
Departments
remaining
at
the
government
center
are
Judicial
Court,
related
departments,
so
those
will
all
be
in
the
new
judicial
Center.
Do.
Q
W
And
yeah
probate
and
the
ninth
floor,
several
courts,
but
we
took
care
of
that
right.
Yes,.
AC
Yeah
everybody
in
the
government
centers
operational.
The
intent
is
to
keep
the
court
related
functions
on
that
campus
for
secure
instead
of
splitting
them
out
over
town.
You
know
makes
a
little
bit
tougher
to
secure.
So
all
of
them,
you
know,
will
be
on
that
campus
until
the
new
building
is
done.
Okay,
yeah.
W
And
then
but
I
don't
know
of
any
issues
that
they
are
having
at
this
point
and
all
that
was
rectified
and
and
of
course
all
of
them
will
be
in
the
new
judicial
Center
I.
Q
N
W
Q
Then
one
more
question:
since
phase
one
will
be
completed
soon.
What
will
be
the
next
step
in
reference
to
I,
guess
I
know
you
said
the
old
parks
and
Rick
office
would
be
available
for
Council.
Q
W
For
Council
yeah
they
are
I
know
that
deficit
Advantage,
a
Goodwin,
is
working
with
the
sheriff
now
and
I've
had
conversations
with
her
about
the
parking
here
and
and
I
know.
The
plan
is
that
they
are
going
to
designate
parking
for
counselors
here
and
and
you'll,
probably
I'm
sure,
we'll
have
designated
parking
at
the
new
building.
Also
at
the
new
city
hall
also.
F
Oh
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
sorry,
sidebar
I
wanted
to
ask
the
clerk
if
she
would
put
me
down
I
had
to
step
out
for
a
minute.
Add
me,
as
voting
in
favor
of
the
city
manager's
agenda
items
one
through
three
and
for
the
purchases
paid
for
the
E.
Thank
you.
Q
Last
thing
counselor
Davis
had
requested
back
on
May
30th
in
reference
to
the
operation
budget.
I
don't
know,
did
you
receive
that
or
were
you
asking
for
it
to
be
a
presentation?
The
request
was
Insight
on
carrying
the
operation
budget.
Will
we
be
closing
other
buildings?
Q
He
would
like
to
see
the
numbers.
Did
you
get
that
information.
W
And
let
me
just
you
know,
let
me
just
say
that
I
started
that
referral
list
of
things
that
you
we
can
keep
track
and
and
some
of
them
will
be
carried
over
until
staff,
follow
up
and
complete
them
and
then
that's
when
they
will
come
off.
So
you
know
as
they
are
on
there,
you
will
be
getting
feedback,
you
know
still
working
on
it,
but
we
want
it
to
track
it
so
that
nothing
gets
lost
and
so
I
started
that
that.
Q
Process
and-
and
that
was
the
thing
I
know-
I
was
counsel,
I
meant
speaking
to
Lindsay
early
earlier,
because
I
had
asked
them
to
print
this
out,
because
we,
it
is
a
lot
of
moving
pieces.
Q
You
know
going
on
and
sometimes
things
do
kind
of
get
lost
or
put
in
the
back
of
our
minds,
but
even
on
number
four
counselor
Thomas
requested
information
in
reference
to
the
main
entrance
to
the
City
Hall
I
know
you
was
talking
about
I,
guess,
I,
can't
think
of
the
term
that
you
had
used
in
reference
to
a
person
sitting
there
and
they're
going
to
be
able
to
see.
Oh,
the
concierge
concierge
yeah,
but
what
I
would
would
request
is
if,
if
we're
gonna
do
because
this
is
great.
Q
Thank
you
for
for
doing
this.
But
if
we're
gonna
do
it
when
we
need
a
something
that
shows
like
like
a
final,
you
know
thing,
because
we
still
have
the
mayor
summer,
youth
program
that
was
number
one
that
councilor
Davis
had
asked.
Can
we
partner
with
community
members
and
businesses
to
have
kids
or
adults
come
in
and
beautify
their
businesses?
I?
Don't
know
if
that
was
addressed
because
it
still
says
a
response
is
expected
soon.
So
if
the
response
has
been
updated,
you
know
provide
like
final.
Q
You
know
final
determination
or
something
and
add
in
a
comment.
Y'all
know:
I
used
to
be
I.T,
so
I
used
to
do
trouble,
tickets
and
I'm
going
back
into
my
information
technology,
mine,
but
I
do
think
that
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
we
need
to
follow
through
with
it
and
update
it
so
updated,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
Lindsay
asked
today
was:
do
we
want
this
printed
out
every
time?
Yes,
if
it's
updated,
but
I
don't
want
to
waste
paper.
We're
going
to
do
something
like
this.
W
Okay,
any
other
questions
of
Ms
Pruitt.
No,
sir
next
I've
got
Zoe,
Hightower
who's,
our
family
connection,
director
and-
and
let
me
just
say
that
Zoe
is
this-
is
her
first
time
up
here
in
before
this
body
and
she's,
one
of
our
young
Millennials
and
we're
proud
of
the
work
that
she's
doing.
W
W
And
of
course
we
wanted
to
create
something
similar
to
what
they're
doing,
but
not
as
large
as
what
they're
doing
and
and
we
wanted
it
to
service
all
of
Columbus.
And
we
wanted
to
use
ARP
funds
and
when
the
ARP
allocations
came
forward,
it
was
part
of
the
allegations
that
that
you
approved
and-
and
so
it
would
be,
a
test
program
for
three
years
that
we
we
we
did
enough
out
of
the
ARP
allocation
to
do
it.
W
Would
you
tell
us
what
you
have
for
us
today?
Yes,.
AD
Sir,
thank
you
for
that
introduction.
Good
morning,
everyone
ask
the
city
manager
said
my
name
is
Zoe
Hightower
for
those
of
you
who
do
not
know
me.
I
am
the
director
for
family
connection
here
in
Columbus
and
as
of
July
1
I've
officially
been
in
this
position
for
a
year.
AD
So
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
what
family
connection
is
family
connection
is
a
Statewide
initiative.
That's
in
all
159
counties
within
the
state
of
Georgia.
It
was
implemented
in
the
90s
by
Governor
Zell
Miller.
After
there
was
a
national
survey
done
and
Georgia
was
ranked
48
out
of
50
states
for
the
overall
well-being
of
children.
So
as
a
way
to
combat
this
family
connection
was
started
and
they
took
10
counties.
AD
So
here
in
Columbus,
Muskogee
County,
we
mimic
that
framework
by
coming
up
with
our
own
annual
plan
each
year.
Two
of
the
main
focus
of
our
focuses
of
our
annual
plan
this
year
is
Early
Childhood
literacy
and
Community
Health.
Another
component
of
family
connection-
that's
in
each
county,
is
a
collaborative.
AD
Another
component
of
each
family
connection
county
is
the
board.
My
board
is
spearheaded
by
Ashley
Becker,
who
represents
the
Columbus
Georgia
Chamber,
my
vice
board,
chair
Brandi
Talbert,
who
I
think
she
had
had
to
leave,
but
she
is
from
The
Literacy,
Alliance
and
then
Deputy
city
manager,
Pam
Hodge,
who
is
our
secretary
treasurer
board
members
serve
a
two-year
term
and
they
are
appointed
by
the
appointed
by
a
nominating
committee.
And
then,
after
that
is
sent
to
the
board.
The
board
mentions
it's
the
collaborative
and
then
it's
voted
on
at
a
later
date.
AD
So
far,
we
do
have
a
vision
and
Mission
for
Columbus
family
connection.
We
envision
a
Columbus
where
families
have
access
to
resources,
to
tools
that
promote
healthy
living,
positive
relationship
and
development
of
skills
that
can
help
them
Thrive.
Our
mission
is
that,
through
collaboration,
we
can
create
a
community
of
healthy
children
and
families
that
are
supported
with
the
Necessities
to
thrive.
AD
We
want
to
ensure
that
we
provide
trainings
and
education
not
only
to
members
of
the
community,
but
but
also
our
board,
our
community
leaders
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
staying
on
top
of
the
needs
and
problem
areas,
better
understand
and
utilize
data
and
also
monitor
progress
and
analyze
data
again
I
mentioned
some
of
our
focus
is
our
early
childhood
literacy
third
grade
reading
and
overall
Community
Health.
AD
We
want
to
work
with
Partners
in
Residence
to
complete
and
evaluate
A
needs
assessment,
and
then
we
also
want
to
implement
implement
the
neighborhood
Navigators
program,
as
the
city
manager
mentioned.
This
is
the
pilot
program
that
we
are
kind
of
mimicking
what
is
being
done
in
the
Athens-Clarke
County
area.
So
the
goal
of
the
neighborhood
Navigators
is
to
empower
individuals
and
communities
by
helping
them
navigate
the
problem
areas
and
seeing
what
what
the
issue
is,
where
the
disconnect
is
of,
why
they
don't
have
access
to
these
resources.
AD
AD
So
how
it
will
work
is,
we
would
essentially
look
for
our
four
full-time
individuals
who
will
go
out
into
the
community,
see
what
the
problem
areas
are
see.
What
the
needs
are
so
that
we
can
be
increase.
AD
Community
engagement,
increase,
Community
empowerment
and
just
have
a
better
a
better
connection
with
our
citizens
and
I
also
want
them
to
connect
with
you
guys
as
well,
because
you
all
know
your
constituents,
you
guys
have
an
idea
of
what
the
problem
areas
are,
and
things
of
that
sort
so
I
would
like
for
them
to
work
closely
with
you
all
as
well.
We
have
already
posted
the
job
posting.
It
was
posted
on
the
16th
of
June
that
same
day,
the
news
reached
out
they
picked
it
up
did
a
feature
story
on
the
news.
AD
Within
the
first
week
we
had
36
applicants
and,
as
of
this
morning,
I
think
we
have
about
52
applicants.
So
there
is
a
need-
and
there
is
an
enthusiasm
for
this
program,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
get
it
to
translate
over
by
the
end
of
the
arpa
funding
in
2026.
AD
And
these
are
just
some
of
the
things
that,
with
collaboration
myself,
my
board
and
The
Navigators
hope
to
accomplish.
We
want
to
do
community
health
and
resource
fairs,
which
I
know
is
being
done
in
the
community
already,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
having
access
to
these
resources.
Are
they
being
done
in
the
correct
areas?
Do
the
people
who
really
need
these
health
and
resource
fairs
do
they
have
access
to
get
today?
AD
AD
Clubs,
like
I,
said,
our
focus
is
Early
Childhood
literacy,
but
if
children
don't
see
the
adults
around
them,
reading
they're
going
to
be
less
inclined
to
read
as
well,
and
these
are
just
a
few
of
the
things
that
we're
hoping
to
get
up
and
running
with
family
connection,
and
these
are
just
some
of
the
partners
that
we
plan
on
collaborating
with
some
of
them.
We've
already
been
working
with
I
did
want
to
mention
a
few
upcoming
events
that
we
have.
First,
we
have
this
upcoming
Friday.
The
mayor
Summers
the
mayor's
summer.
AD
Reading
club
is
the
second
installment.
The
first
installment
went
really
well.
The
mayor
came
out
ran
to
the
kids.
We
had
bouncy
houses,
other
vendors
came
out
and
it
was
just
a
great
time.
This
time
we
will
have
the
Chattahoochee
and
the
Columbus
monsters
coming
out
to
read
the
children,
this
Friday
at
the
military
library-
and
this
is
in
partnership
with
Literacy
Alliance
and
the
mayor's
office.
AD
AD
I
did
mention
having
a
kickoff
collaborative
meeting
like
I,
said
we're
shooting
for
next
month.
Sometime
and
I
want
you
all
to
come
out
to
that
meeting
as
well
and,
lastly,
something
that
I'm
working
on
with
community
reinvestment
and
Literacy
Alliance
is
a
city-wide
book
draft
that
we're
planning
to
do
from
August
to
September
and
I
want
a
lot
of
the
different
departments
and
divisions
around
the
city
of
Columbus
to
participate
in,
as
you
may
or
may
not
know.
AD
Literacy
Alliance
has
Community
book
Nooks
located
in
different
areas
of
the
community
and
they're
funded
by
cdbg
funding
from
community
reinvestment.
So
our
goal
is
to
replenish
the
books
that
are
being
taken
away
from
these
books,
because
we
all
know
that
literacy
and
education
is
the
Cornerstone
for
development,
and
this
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
add
brick
to
that
Foundation,
and
this
is
just
a
way
to
contact
me.
We
do
post
updates
on
our
Facebook
page,
whether
it's
resources
from
ourself
or
other
entities
within
the
city
as
well.
R
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you're
doing
are
duplicates
of
what's
already
happening
in
the
government
in
different
departments.
For
example,
Nancy
Boren
does
a
great
job
about
the
voter
registration
and
voter
education.
R
B
U
B
Have
an
opportunity
to
contact
the
mayor
directly
and
and
what
they've
been
able
to
do
in
Athens
is
Identify
some
of
the
areas
that
you
kind
of
hear
about,
but
you've
got
all
these
other
things
that
you're
working
on
it
just
sometimes
it
doesn't
you
don't
get
to
that
point.
I
think
it's
an
incredible
program
when
we
brought
it
back
from
Athens,
we
were
excited
about
it
and
city
managers
said
I'm
gonna
find
the
money
somewhere
for
us
to
try
to
give
it
a
try
and
see
how
it
works
here.
Well,.
R
B
Me
just
show
I
will
say
that
there's
a
lot
of
initiatives
that
get
vetted
and
we
kind
of
work
through
and
and
I,
don't
think
every
one
of
them
comes
to
council
because
they
don't
come
to
fruition.
So
it's
it's
a
matter
of
trouble
when
we
get
ready
and
I
think
when
staff
gets
ready,
I
hadn't
heard
about
it.
Since
we
went,
we
went
to
Athens,
we've
been
back
a
week
so
well.
W
She's
been
working
to
develop
a
program
there
and
it's
it's
about
getting
out
into
the
council
districts
and
connecting
people
to
resources
or
making
sure
they
know
what
resources
are
available
to
them,
and
it's
really
going
to
benefit
those
who
are
not
as
informed
and
it's
all
about
families
and
children.
And
yes,
there
are
some
other
things
in
the
Erp
money
where
you're
going
to
be
here
in
those
or
seeing
those
programs
being
brought
forward
to
you
over
the
next
few
weeks
and
and
so
yeah
she's
been
employed
a
year.
W
But
this
is
not
what
she's
been
working
on
for
a
whole
year.
She's
been
and
there's
a
family
connection
director
in
every
I
think
every
County
in
Georgia,
and
so
we
are
providing
want
to
provide
to
families
and
children
in
Muskogee
County,
exactly
what
they're
providing
for
family
and
children
in
other
County.
In
fact,
I
sent
you
a
thing
on.
It
was
on
channel
9
news
last
night,
where
the
Harris
County
family
connection
person
will
work
in
this
pack,
the
backpacks
or.
AD
Whatever,
yes,
sir
and
yes,
sir
and
you
mentioned,
duplicating
things
that
are
already
being
done,
for
example,
schools
coming
up,
there
are
about
to
be
how
many
back
to
school
drives
in
the
community,
but
that's
not
going
to
stop
these
organizations
and
agencies
from
having
these
back
to
school
drives
it's
about
accessibility.
AD
Does
everybody
have
access
to
these
baggage
full
drives?
It's
happening
this
in
this
area,
but
do
citizens
in
these
areas
have
access
to
these
School
drives
as
well?
Can
they
drive
to
these
areas,
or
can
we
bring
these
things
to
them
as
well
and
even
outside
of
family
connection?
There
are
quote,
unquote,
duplicate
things
that
are
happening
in
the
community,
but
it's
all
about
making
these
things
more
accessible
to
families
and
children.
Yeah.
AD
Last
year,
I
received
600,
700
or
600
are
in
English
and
100
are
in
Spanish,
so
we
are
coming
up
with
a
plan
to
distribute
those
book
bags.
I
know
Ms
Lisa,
reached
out
to
me
last
week
we're
going
to
start
distributing
some
of
those
they
have
information
inside
of
them.
Different
resources
for
children
and
families
and
I
also
got
some
supplemental
materials
as
well
such
as
calculators,
first
aid
kits
to
go
inside
of
these
book
bags
as
well.
So
that's
just
another
way.
We
can
do
different.
AD
AD
P
Huff
director
Hightower,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
make
sure
you
let
us
know
when
you
get
your
partners
together.
Yes,.
AD
P
We
can
come
out.
I
did
a
lot
of
this
I
guess
when
I
first
started
back
in
2012,
13
time
frame
and
coming
in
to
see-
and
it's
it's
something
to
behold,
because
I
I
had
been
to
one
I
think
that
were
probably
close
to
25
or
30
Partners
in
the
room.
Everybody
was
sharing
information
on
how
to
help.
My
main
point
this
morning
that
I
want
to
harp
on
is
the
third
grade.
P
P
If
we
get
the
kids
reading
in
third
grade
and
doing
well
in
school,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
still
true,
but
when
I
came
on
board
there
were
stats,
saying
that
they
were
building
future
prisons
based
on
third
grade.
Yes,
test
scores.
Yes,.
P
We'll
continue
that
and
keep
up
the
good
work.
Let
me
know
how
I
can
help
yes,
sir
yeah,
and
make
sure
we
get
the
message
now,
so
we
can
come
out
and
support
you.
AD
Q
Q
Well,
so
your
budget
comes
from
the
state,
yes
and
in
reference
to
Athens
it
looks
and
I'm
just
saying
what
it
looks
like
it
looks
like
the
family
family
connections,
the
neighborhood
leaders
fall
under
the
family
connection,
I'm
broke,
so
so
is
it
written
up
because,
right
now
it
appears
based
on
like
if
you
go
out
and
look
at
the
job
announcement,
that
they
fall
under
you
as
the
city
manager.
W
W
W
The
city
provides
some
funding,
but
her
primary
funding
comes
from
the
state
and
and
so
when
we
had
to
locate
it
somewhere,
because
I
was
involved
when
they
were
going
to
take
the
funding
away
and
discontinue
Us
in
Muscogee
County.
It
was
not
a
part
of
it
was
a
non-profit
and
because
we're
the
Fiscal
Agent.
We
said
we'll
we'll
take
it,
because
we
we're
not
going
to
be
the
only
county
in
the
state
of
Georgia
without
a
family
connection,
and
it's
always
just
howls
in
my
office.
Q
And
and
I
will
will
say
one
of
the
concerns
and
it's
not
just
a
cancer
crab,
but
as
far
as
duplication
of
efforts,
because
we
got
two
one
one
and
working
with
and
I
will
say
this
when
I
work
as
a
a
case
manager
for
the
ssvf
program
and
that's
for
veterans
in
the
homeless
Community,
it
does
get
a
confusing
like
who
do
you
call
so
we're
going
to
start
directing
people
to
call
you
neighborhood,
Navigators
and
then
possibly
2-1-1.
Q
If
it's
gonna
be
a
flow
like?
Who?
Who
do
you
contact
and
what
are
you
doing
to
ensure
that
you
know
the
right
hand
knows
what
the
left
hand
is
doing,
and
it's
not
a
lot
of
confusion
because
oftentimes
we
do
have,
especially
if
we're
talking
about
using
City
funds.
Let's
use
our
funds
wisely
because
we
don't
want
to
yes
more
more,
sometimes
is
better,
but
then
more
can
be
confusing.
Q
It
can
get
real.
It
can
get
real,
confusing
real
quick
when
you're
talking
about
doing
efforts,
especially
some
of
the
things
when,
when
you're
saying
like
I
I
do
Town
Halls,
because
because
my
my
district
Warrior
out
there,
he
makes
sure
he
wants
me
to
be
out
out
in
the
community
and
I'm
actually
doing
senior
citizens
event
on
April
I
mean
on
August
21st
at
Shirley
B.
Q
But
when
the
Navigator
isn't
working
with
the
council
and
even
though
you
sound
like
you
want
to
add
that
that
connection.
If
it's
not
written
and
it's
not
planned,
then
it's
just.
It
will
end
up
being
an
after
after
thought
and
that's
one
of
the
concerns
is
keeping
the
council
engaged
if
you're
going
to
be
in
the
districts.
You
know
because
I
will
say
say
this:
my
district
is
like
my
children.
W
W
Q
O
Davis
thanks
mayor
and
I
can
I
can
see
the
concern
about
duplication
and
efforts
with
all
the
whether
it's
two
one
one
three
one
one,
the
mayor's
Less
Talk
we're
council
members
are
engaged
out
there.
You
have
a
School,
District
representative,
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on.
That's
out
there,
so
I
mean
I'm,
open-minded
I'd
like
to
have
maybe
probably
not
today
but
sit
down,
and
have
that
conversation
and
understand
more
in
detail,
the
mechanics
I'm.
You
know
I'm
a
little
here
sitting
here,
the
mechanics
of
how
this
all
connects.
O
You
know,
but
but
I
I
do
understand
the
concerns
of
my.
It
might
share
some
same
concerns.
As
my
fellow
colleagues
I
I
would
ask
this
question
though
we
said
this
is
something
new
but
I.
You
know,
and
it's
coming
out
of
the
ARP
funds.
I
thought
we
designated
all
the
ARP
funds
that
that's
already
been
done.
Is
there
like
a
discretionary
aspect?
Do
they
are
people
at
all,
I
mean
we.
W
O
W
Thank
you
Zoe,
and
we
appreciate
your
work
and
all
that
you're
doing
for
the
city
government
yeah
great
job.
Next
I've
got
the
public
safety
take
home
vehicles
to
Alabama
update.
We've
got
our
new
risk
manager,
Lauren
Vance!
Congratulations
on
your
new
assignment!
Thank
you.
I.
AE
AE
Today
we
are
going
to
be
talking
about
Public
Safety
Vehicles,
going
to
Alabama.
Some
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
discuss
are
the
risk
for
allowing
those
vehicles
to
Alabama
insurance
policies,
other
cities
and
counties
and
how
they
are
handling
the
same
situation
and
our
options
moving
forward.
AE
AE
Thank
you
does
not
recognize
our
immunity
and
therefore
the
caps
for
the
ocga
guidelines
would
be
waived.
The
potential
for
our
exposure
would
go
well
above
the
750
000
caps.
If
there
is
an
accident
in
Alabama,
one
of
the
other
questions
that
we
had
was
if
we
could
purchase
insurance
for
the
vehicles.
AE
We
did
look
at
that
and
if
the
insurance
is
purchased
for
the
1400
vehicles
that
we
have
in
our
Fleet,
our
immunity
is
still
waived
and
our
exposure
is
open
if
we
purchased
a
insurance
policy
for
the
same
amount
as
our
caps
for
that
750
000..
A
Court
verdict,
of
course,
could
go
well
above
that
750
000.
That
is
now
protecting
us
in
Georgia.
AE
We
did
reach
out
to
our
legal
outside
team,
our
insurance
brokers,
GMA
and
accg,
and
they
are
all
recommending
to
stay
self-funded
and
to
not
purchase
that
insurance
for
the
ocga
guidelines.
It
is
actually
broken
down:
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
person
per
accident,
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
two
or
more
people
per
accident
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
property
damage
per
accident.
AE
AE
We
contacted
18
different
cities
and
counties
that
are
on
the
Georgia
border
with
another
state.
This
is
the
list
that
we
really
focused
on.
As
you
see
it
is
split.
There
are
four
that
allow
City
Vehicles
into
a
different
state.
Then
there
are
four
that
are
not
allowed
in
two
states
for
the
city
of
LaGrange.
They
are
self-funded
and
they
do
allow
Vehicles
into
the
state
lines.
However,
they
assume
that
risk
they,
the
immunity,
is
waived.
They
know
that
and
they're
just
going
to
take
that
risk.
AE
If
something
happens
in
Alabama
Augusta
Richmond
is
another
one.
They
are
very
similar
to
Columbus.
They
are
self-funded.
AE
W
AE
Thank
you.
Oh
currently,
there
are
90
employees
throughout
the
public
safety
departments
that
have
the
potential
to
take
home
a
vehicle
into
Alabama,
Columbus,
fire
and
EMS
has
six
employees
that
are
currently
residing
in
Alabama.
This
does
not
mean
that
they
are
taking
those
Vehicles
home.
Currently,
this
is
the
potential
that
they
have
to
do
so.
Police
Department,
of
course,
has
45
Emergency,
Management
and
Muskogee
County
Prison
have
two
employees
and
the
sheriff's
office
has
35
employees.
AE
AE
We
would
continue
to
be
self-funded
allow
the
employees
into
Alabama
for
Public
Safety
only,
and
we
would
assume
the
risk.
If
anything
were
to
happen
in
Alabama
option
three
would
be
to
purchase
insurance.
However,
again
you
are
going
to
waive
the
immunity.
The
Caps
could
be
much
higher
if
we
were
to
go
to
court.
If
we
get
sued,
we
could
possibly
look
at
multi-million
dollar
verdict.
AE
Just
to
recap,
if
we
were
to
go
to
Alabama,
if
we
allow
Public
Safety
employees
into
a
state
that
does
not
recognize
our
immunity,
we
waive
that
immunity.
We
waive
our
caps
and
we
are
going
to
have
to
assume
the
risk
that
comes
along
with
an
accident
happening
in
that
state.
On
the
current
cats.
Again,
it's
500
000
per
person
per
accident,
742
or
more
people
per
accident
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
property
damage,
and
we
did
contact
18
cities
and
counties.
Four
do
allow
take-home
Vehicles
into
another
state.
R
R
R
And
then
can
you
tell
me
the
number
of
accidents
that
have
occurred
per
over
the
last
year
or
per
year
of
these
take
home
these
take-home
cars.
R
Mean
that
would
have
been
a
good
bit
of
information
to
assess
the
risk
of
our
decision.
You
know
if
we're
having
a
lot
of
accidents,
then
our
decision
may
be
different
than
if
we
have
maybe
one
accident
a
year
that
that
is
part
of
the
risk
assessment.
So
that's
a
big
part
of
information
that
we're
missing
so.
R
Because
we're
because
we
are,
you
know,
going
to
be
making
this
decision
based
on
the
risk
of
allowing
them
to
take
cars
over
to
Alabama,
and
if
we
look
at
how
many
accidents
have
occurred,
you
know
over
the
last
two
to
five
years
and
it's
low.
Then
we
realize
that
our
risk
of
doing
this
is
less
than
if
we're
having
a
lot
of
accidents
every
year.
E
W
So
so
what
I
hear
being
asked
is
and
I
don't
even
know
that
you
track
it
like
this,
and
so
what
what
I
hear
being
asked
is
that
if
a
person
has
a
take-home
vehicle
and
an
accident
occurs
while
they
at
work,
you
track
that.
But
then,
when
they're
off
of
work,
a
public
safety
person
and
they're
in
route
home
or
in
route
to
work
before
they
go
in
service,
do
you
track
those
kinds
of
accidents.
AE
AE
W
W
B
X
And
just
just
off
of
councilor
crabs
comment.
So
if,
if
you
can
pull
that
data,
then
can
you
also
because
at
one
point,
police
and
fire
we
used
to
be
able
to
or
they
used
to
be
able
to
take
them
home,
correct.
Y
I
would
like
to
suggest
to
option
number
five
I
think
we
could
get
a
group
together,
someone
from
firebm
someone
from
police
I'm
from
Sheriff
Lauren,
and
then
someone
from
city
council
that
kind
of
brings
up
the
questions
that
we
had
just
to
spend
some
deep
Dives
really
understand
how
LaGrange
got
comfortable
with
the
risk
understanding.
You
know,
look
at
talking
talking
to
John
King,
the
insurance
commissioner.
Y
Is
there
a
way
to
work
with
Alabama,
just
I
think
it
is
a
big
decision
and
there's
there's
no
real
obvious
answers,
so
I
think
getting
some
more
time
where
city
council
has
one
person
involved,
we're
digging
I
like
a
lot
of
this
information
using
the
same
information,
but
just
really
digging
deeper,
because
it
is
a
a
tough
decision
with
not
a
clear
answer.
B
Well
and
just
to
add
to
it
I
know
we
had
sent
a
request
for
legislative
legislation,
but
for
a
resolution
out
of
the
Senate
to
support
our
attorney
general
communicating
with
Alabama's
attorney
general
and
that
for
the
first
time
actually
got
dropped
and
made
it
to
the
Attorney
General's
office.
He's
called
he's
been
a
communication
he's
got
somebody
that
is
working
on
it
with
Lucy
I
believe
to
try
to
create
to
try
to
create
that
communication
with
the
Alabama
AG.
B
You
know
the
challenge
is:
is
we've
told
them
whichever
they
can
do
quicker
if
they
can
do
just
our
border,
that's
great
if
they
want
to
tackle
all
border
cities
or
just
a
distance
from
the
the
Border
whatever
they
want
to
do,
but
we've
finally
gotten
them
in
Atlanta
to
understand.
This
is
a
significant
importance
to
us.
So.
B
In
the
mix
to
your
to
your
point,
counselor
Huff.
P
Yes
to
piggyback
on
what's
been
stated
already,
when
you
get
the
groups
together
from
the
different
departments
to
I'm
looking
at
option,
two
excuse
me
where
it
says:
amend
policy
stay
self-funded,
allow
Public,
Safety
employees
to
Alabama,
potentially
at
risk
for
liability.
Is
there
a
risk
calculation
or
something
that
you'll
use
during
these
meetings
to
say
without
exposure
would
be.
AE
Some
some
legal
team
and
our
insurance
brokers,
I,
can
tell
you
that
there
are
some
of
the
90
employees.
They
are
in
the
35
to
40
mile
radius,
so
they
would
be
traveling
quite
a
bit
into
Alabama,
it's
not
just
going
across
the
bridge.
So
of
course
the
longer
you
travel,
the
more
your
exposure
is
open,
the
the
worse
the
liability
could
be.
P
AE
The
cities
that
are
currently
going
into
Alabama,
not
really
when
we
talked
to
them
and
met
they
are
they
pretty
much
just
assume
the
risk
and
they
they
wait
for
something
to
happen.
I
hate
to
say
it
that
way,
that's
a
that's
a
bad
response,
but
they
wait
for
something
to
happen.
Luckily,
right
now
the
numbers
that
we
have
from
them,
nothing
has
happened.
D
To
be
clear,
suggestion
number
five
getting
a
group:
please
share
someone
from
city
council,
I.
Y
I
think
Lawrence
Lawrence
already
got
a
good
information
to
include
her
as
well
and,
like
I
said,
try
to
reach
out
to
our
state
representatives.
I'll
talk
to
Randy
Robertson.
He
suggested
John,
King
or
anywhere
else,
but
I
think
just
Deep
dive
into
how
LaGrange
got
comfortable
understanding
how
valuable
the
benefits
are.
M
When
I
first
looked
at
this
presentation,
the
thing
that
just
jumped
out
at
me
was
on
the
very
first
slide
that
you
have
the
the
title
slide.
You
talk
about
reducing,
transferring
and
avoiding
risk,
and
then
you
talk
about
accepting
risk
risk
being
the
operative
word.
If
you
will
my
concern
with
this
presentation
and
with
the
current
policy
out
there
is
that
you
did
not
look
to
see.
How
can
we
do
this?
You
look
to
see.
How
can
we
not
do
this
and
that's
what
has
come
across
in
this
presentation?
M
I
will
remember,
and
perhaps
some
of
the
other
councils
will
remember
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
when
we
talked
about
this
councilor
Garrett
said
if
you
are
a
Muskogee,
if
you
are
a
resident
of
Muskogee
County
and
you
are
a
public
safety
officer
and
you
have
a
wreck,
that
is
your
fault,
it
is
your
responsibility
and
your
insurance
has
to
pay,
for
it
is
that
true.
AE
AE
M
M
Or
not,
yeah
I
didn't
think
you
could
the
goal
it
seemed,
as
I
said,
seems
to
be.
Don't
allow
this
to
happen.
I
I
want
to
I
want
to
bring
an
example
to
you
and
I
know
that
if
you
counts,
if
you
can't
tell
I'm
pretty
passionate
about
this
I
think
the
counselors
know
suppose
we
had
a
officer
who's.
20
years
old,
we
hire
a
brand
new
rookie
and
we
train
him.
M
We
have
been
told
Time
and
Time
Again
by
everybody
and
their
brother,
that
our
training
department
in
the
Columbus
Police
Department,
is
the
best
in
the
state.
It's
terrific
and
we
train
people
all
the
time.
Okay.
So
this
kid
this
20
year
old
officer
comes
to
work
for
Columbus,
making
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
and
they
stay
here
say
five
years.
M
That
means
that
we
have
paid
them
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars,
plus
the
training,
and
then
somebody
says
to
them:
hey
look
LaGrange
just
up
the
road
pays,
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
you
can
transfer
to
LaGrange.
You
can
go
work
in
LaGrange
and
make
ten
thousand
dollars
a
year
more
than
you're
making.
Now
in?
M
M
The
the
issue
is
not
give
me
a
stipend.
The
issue
is
you,
let
him
drive
home
and
you
don't?
Let
me
drive
home
it's
a
morale
issue.
It's
not
a
financial
issue
for
most
of
them
and
I
will
also
remind
you
that
when
a
Columbus
Police
Officer
is
in
their
car
on
duty
in
Muskogee
County
and
they
are
chasing
some
some
person
that
has
robbed
a
bank.
They
don't
stop
at
the
county
line
at
the
at
the
district.
The
state
line
and
say
oops
can't
go
into
Alabama
it'll
cost.
M
M
I
have
talked
with
a
number
of
Deputy
shares,
for
example,
and
the
fact
that
the
Muskogee
County
Sheriff
allows
his
deputies
to
drive
into
Alabama
drive
home
and
the
fact
that
there
are
certain
limits
to
that.
They
can't
drive
to
Montgomery.
They
can't
live
in
Montgomery.
They
have
to
live
in
a
given
mileage
from
the
state
line,
which
I
believe
is
probably
true
of
all
of
these
border
cities.
M
You
can't
just
drive
anywhere
there's
a
limit
one
of
the
one
of
the
decades
that
I
talked
to,
who
is
a
deputy
in
Russell
County
who
lives
in
Midland,
drives
his
car
home
every
night,
and
he
said
to
me:
that's
I
think
that's
my
car
and
so
I
take
care
of
it.
M
M
All
of
the
issues
that
I
have
heard
on
this
question
is
the
morale
issue
and
what
we
are
doing
to
make
a
differentiation
between
45
of
our
officers
and
the
rest
of
the
Columbus
Police
Department
I
would
be
willing
to
bet
you
if
you'd
put
up
that
slide
that
showed
the
number
of
employees
in
each
in
each
department,
with
the
exception
of
the
Columbus
Police
Department
and
the
Sheriff's
Office,
all
those
other
people
are
management,
they're,
not
ranking,
file
employees.
M
M
M
M
With
councilor
Tyson
councilor
Huff,
we
need
to.
We
need
to
talk
to
the
people
who
are
involved
now.
I
understand
that
you
did
talk
with
the
police
chief
and
you
did
talk
with
I
think
maybe
the
homeland
security
guy
okay.
But
when
we
put
this,
this
group
together,
I'm
not
sure
I
want
the
police
chief.
There
I
want
somebody
that
it
that
it
might
be
affecting
I
want.
W
And
this
mayor,
if
I,
if
I
may
yes,
sir
first
of
all
Lauren
I,
apologize
that
you
get
frustrated
as
a
numerous
manager
and
and.
W
W
You
know
we
don't
recommend
it.
I
said
we
ought
to
take
the
risk.
August
is
taking
the
risk,
our
sheriff
is
taking
the
risk
and-
and-
and
we
can-
you
can
change
this
right
here
at
the
table
today,
because
the
council
developed
the
take-home
policy,
it's
approved
by
you,
it's
your
take-home
policy,
you
voted
on
it
and
all
you
got
to
do
is
do
six
votes
and
take
the
risks
just
like
Augusta
and
just
like
the
sheriff,
and
you
can
do
that
today.
M
City
manager,
if
you
think
that
I
was
ugly
to
Lauren
I,
will.
W
M
That
that
it
does
not
answer
the
question
that
we
were
asked
to
answer
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
my
my
tone
of
voice
or
if
my
enthusiasm
for
doing
this
offended,
you
I
am
truly
sorry,
Lauren
I
did
not
mean
to
do
that.
But
I
will
tell
you
that
I
am
very,
very
disappointed
in
this,
in
the
way
that
this
seemed
to
be
looked
at.
M
Everything
that
you've
got
on
here,
there's
another
there's
another
one
of
these
slides
down
here
that
says,
risk
and
and
acceptance
and
the
risk
is,
you
know,
I.
B
The
City
attorney,
who
I
don't
agree
with
oftentimes
their
job,
is
to
try
to
lay
out
the
perspective
from
what
they
do.
So,
if
they're
supposed
to
be
evaluating
and
and
mitigating
risk,
if
they're
supposed
to
be
looking
at
the
law
and
how
it's
going
to
impact
and
what
the
liability
level
rises
to
that's
what
they're
supposed
to
do.
The
idea
is
to
try
to
bring
all
the.
Z
B
Not,
but
let
me
finish
everything,
but
it's
it's
their
job
to
do
their
piece
and
then
bring
that
back,
and
then
this
counsel,
I
I,
was
ready
from
the
beginning.
I'd
talk
with
the
police
department
about
just
let's
take
the
risk.
That's
what
some
of
these
other
cities
have
done.
Let's
just
take
the
risk.
B
We
owed
it
to
the
taxpayers
to
at
least
start
looking
at
what
the
site,
what
the
implications
might
be
through
these
other
areas.
I
would
welcome
a
group
that
wants
to
get
together
from
the
different
agencies.
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have.
The
City
attorney
might
make
sense
to
bring
somebody
in
since
they're
out
of
session
from
from
our
local
delegation
and
see
if
we
can
get
them
on
board
to
try
to
help
push
push
this.
F
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
wanted
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
what
I'm,
in
favor
of
lifting
it
and
just
moving
forward
with
it
maybe
put
a
six
month
time
limit
on
it
tie
into
what
counselor
Bagley
said
about
bringing
a
group
of
folks
together
and
the
mayor,
and
it
also
involved
GMA,
accg
and
I.
Think
Lauren
mentioned
in
her
in
her
presentation
that
some
legal
teams
get
them
involved
and
and
just
get
everybody
to
the
table
and
and
move
forward
with
it.
F
If,
if
we
put
a
time
limit
on
it,
then
that
pushes
us
to
you
know,
get
the
folks
together
and
try
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
solution,
or
at
least
a
direction
to
go
in
and
if
we're
going
to
get
legislative
folks
involved,
they'll
go
back
in
session
in
January,
so
you
know,
we've
got
to
give
some.
That
gives
us
six
months.
We
got
to
get
something
done
in
that
in
that
interim
period.
F
So
I
would
like
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
do
something
along
those
lines
that
we
give
ourselves
a
six-month
timeline.
We
bring
those
that
have
been
identified
by
councilor
Begley
and
the
City
attorney
and
city
manager
and
the
mayor
and
just
get
them
get
them
in
a
room,
and
let's
try
to
get
this.
This
answered,
it
seems
to
me
accgg
and
GMA,
owe
it
to
the
community
members
to
get
this
resolved.
This
needs
to
be
a
top
agenda
item
for
them
for
this
next
year.
H
I
just
wanted
to
like
a
couple
of
points
that
everybody's
made
good
points
around
the
room.
The
the
liability
exposure
is
obviously
what
lawyers
and
Risk
Managers
worry
about
and
lose
sleepover
the
sovereign
immunity
application
in
Georgia
is
the
way
it
works
is
if
an
officer
causes
a
motor
vehicle
accident.
The
officer
cannot
be
sued
individually
in
Georgia.
Well,
that's
not
the
case
in
Alabama,
the
officer
can
be
sued
individually
in
Alabama
and
there's
no
cap
on
liabilities
sky's.
The
limit
the
city
could
be
brought
into
a
case
in
Alabama
There's
No
liability
caps.
H
Guy
is
a
limit.
Those
are
things
that
we're
concerned
about
and,
of
course,
the
best
solution
would
be
if
Alabama
and
Georgia
got
together
and
developed
a
compact
or
statute
interstate
compact.
That
said,
Georgia
your
liability
and
caps
and
protections
will
apply
if
your
officers
or
in
a
motor
vehicle
accident
in
Alabama
I
mean
that's
the
one
of
the
best
Solutions
out
there.
If
we
could
get
that
accomplished
through
the
general
assembly
and
the
attorney
general
and
the
folks
in
Alabama,
but
we
we're
always
going
to
be
concerned
about
officers
individual
liability,
which
is
sky's.
R
I
I
think
we
should
allow
it
to
happen
and
then
let
the
individuals
that
would
be
driving
the
car
over
to
Alabama
know
ing
that
they
are
open
to
personal
liability
with
no
cap.
Then
they
get
to
decide
if
they're
going
to
take
their
car
home
or
not.
R
B
F
And
we
probably
should
have
a
form
so.
M
F
It
was,
it
was
to
allow
them
it
was
allowed
to
allow
them
to
take
home.
Take
their
car
home.
They
sign
up
an
understanding
agreement
of
what
what
the
liability
situation
is.
We
put
together
a
coalition
of
Partners
to
try
to
move
this
forward
in
the
next
six
months.
F
R
B
Okay,
there
is
a
second
to
the
motion.
Councilor
kogos
is
to
the
motion.
X
No
I
mean
I,
guess
you
beat
me
to
it,
but
I
I,
just
I
guess
the
the
only
thing
that
I
I
just
really
wanted
to
say
is
that,
were
you
know
we're
asking
our
law
enforcement
officials
to
put
their
lives
on
the
line
every
day
and
I
think
the
very
least
that
we
can
do
is
assume
the
risk
that
they
are
going
to
drive
their
car
home
and
get
in
an
accident
while
they
assume
the
risk
every
day
of
losing
their
life.
M
Well,
I
I
was
thinking
when
councilor
Allen
made
the
motion
that
and
the
suggestion
that
councilor
crab
had
that
certainly
could
be
a
topic
of
conversation
in
let's
develop
the
policy
that
deals
with
all
of
our
Public
Safety
and
city
employees
driving
out
of
state.
M
The
guy
who
drives
to
Harris
County
has
the
same
liability,
I
believe
the
same
chance
of
a
liability
driving
into
Harris,
County
or
driving
down
Schaumburg
Road
that
the
officer
has
driving
to
Phoenix
City,
so
I
I
would
I
would
support.
Let's,
let's
take
a
look
at
it.
Let's
make
a
policy,
let's
make
sure
that
it
fits
what
we
need
to
do,
that.
M
It
includes
conversation
with
all
of
those
entities
that
are
impacted
by
this
and
that
we
we
make
sure
that
we
put
in
the
rules
and
regulations
that
we
need
to
put
in
and
that
we
still
give
the
police
department
and
the
Sheriff's
Office,
and
all
these
other
folks
the
opportunity
to
make
their
rules
and
wrecks
if
there
need
to
be
additional
rules
and
rigs.
I
know
that
you
know
some
some
of
these
places
that
let
them
take
the
car
home.
You
can
stop
by
the
grocery
store
on
the
way
home.
M
In
fact,
one
of
the
officers
told
me
that
in
another
County
that
they
were
encouraged
to
drive
their
cars
to
church
on
Sunday
morning
and
whenever
they're
in
the
car
they
have
to
be
in
uniform,
so
they
go
into
church
on
Sunday
morning
in
uniform,
and
he
says
sometimes
that
causes
some
conversation
in
the
in
the
sanctuary,
but
those
kinds
of
things.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
decide
we're
not
driving
these
cars,
we're
not
police
officers
or
sheriffs,
we're
not
responsible
for
that.
They
are.
M
Let's
make
sure
that
we
hit
what
we
need
to
hit
and
I
would
I
would
prefer
that
we
have
some
of
these
conversations
on
the
policy
before
we
turn
a
loose
into
into
Alabama
and
make
sure
the
policies
I
would
prefer
a
six
day
timeline
rather
than
a
six-month
timeline.
If
we
could
do
that,
but
let's
get
it
done
and
let's
get
it
done
as
thoroughly
as
we
can
and
cover
all
the
bases
that
we
can
cover.
Thank
you.
X
I,
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
have
it
on
record
that
we,
you
know
if
we
obviously,
if
we
vote
for
this
motion,
that
in
six
months,
if
the
legislation
can't
change
or
won't
change
that
we
revisit
it
with
attitude
of
we
we're
not
going
to
just
end
it
and
and
be
done
with
it
and
but
we're
gonna.
Do
we're
either
one
going
to
adopt
number
two
and
just
continue
to
assume
the
risk,
or
you
know,
look
at
it
from
an
attitude
of
we
can.
X
If
not,
we
can't
so
I.
Just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
down
on
the
record
that
in
six
months,
when
we
come
back,
if
the
state
legislation
doesn't
do
anything
or
can't
do
anything
or
their
hands
are
tied,
that
we
as
a
counsel
and
we
as
a
city,
return
back
to
this,
with
the
with
the
intention
that
we
can
continue
this
forward.
B
All
right,
we've
got
the
we've
got
a
motion
in
a
second,
and
do
we
say
what
the
date
of
implementation
would
be
when
they
would,
when
it
would
begin?
Okay
as
soon
as
okay,
all
right.
F
Good,
well,
it's
not
a
waiver.
It's
just
an
acknowledgment
of
a
liability,
yeah
situation,
all
right.
M
F
I
guess
it'd
be
the
ones
in
Alabama,
because
the
the
liability
issue
is
not,
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
in
Georgia,
the
only
the
only
but
it,
but
in
a
lot
the
liability
situation
in
Alabama,
There's,
No
Limit,
there's
no
limit
on
the
on
the
police
officer
can
be
sued.
Is
that
not
what
you
said?
City
attorney
the
city
the
and
they
cannot
in
Georgia,
right,
yeah
and
and
I
don't
mind
a
six
day
timeline
to
get
this
settled.
Like
you
mentioned
the
six
month
timeline
I
put
on.
F
W
W
B
I
I
I'm
just
telling
you
what
I
understood
the
motion
motion
would
be
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
critical
to
acknowledge
too
that
even
if
we
go
to
our
state
legislature
and
they
agree
wholeheartedly
and
get
behind
and
push,
it
has
to
be
approved
in
Alabama,
because
it's
Alabama
who
is
not
providing
any
limitations
on
our
liabilities.
So
it
almost
doesn't
matter
what
we
say.
If
they
decide
to
dig
there
dig
their
heels
in.
W
F
F
S
I
have
son-in-laws
in
Philadelphia
and-
and
you
know
it's
it's
if,
if
there's
any
way
where
we
could
find
out
how
many
officers
I'm
talking
about
ground,
not
administrators,
Personnel
I
take
it.
So
we
will
know
what
our
liability
would
be
I'd
like
for
us
to
pursue
that,
because
what
you
the
issue,
you
brought
up
about
morality,.
S
S
My
son-in-law
has
been
with
the
Philadelphia
police
force
over
30
years,
and
you
know
it's
their
public
safeties,
just
like
the
military,
the
ones
that
go
out
there,
that
put
their
life
on
the
line,
and
it
is
a
morale
issue.
It's
a
morale
issue,
so
I.
So,
while
we're
doing
this,
I
would
like
to
throw
in.
Let
us
find
out
how
many
active
officers,
because
it
may
be
something
that
we
can't
absorb,
but
we
we
come
up
and
I
and
I
say
this
all
the
time
when
it's
something
that
we
want
to
do.
S
We
can.
We
have
a
very
good
finance
officer.
Angelica
we
come
up
with
the
money.
I
I
think
that
that
would
be
I.
Think
that's
would
be
a
big
morale
saying
for
Public
Safety.
So
if
we
can
come
up,
if
I
could
throw
that
in
during
that
time
we
can
come
up
with
what
our
liability
would
be.
We
know
the
actual
number
of
officers.
W
S
R
B
E
B
V
Mayor
council
I
was
not
prepared
to
speak
today,
but
I
appreciate
this
opportunity.
I
think
there's
a
little
misunderstanding
when
we
say
not
to
go
in
Alabama,
we
go
in
Alabama
on
a
daily
basis.
We
do
follow-up
investigations,
we
do
backgrounds
on
potential
new
hires,
so
we're
in
and
out
of
Alabama
every
day
doing
business.
V
So
if,
if
I
I
appreciate
it
sounds
like
you
guys
are
going
to
vote
for
this,
and
thank
you
very
much
because
when
we
talk
about
liability,
the
liability
that
we
have
as
police
officers
being
140
police
officers
down
is
a
huge
liability
and
if
we
can
do
something
and
improve
morale
of
these
police
officers
like
simply
allowing
them
to
take
their
cars
5-10
miles
into
Alabama,
that's
going
to
improve
morale.
That's
not
only
going
to
prevent
me
from
losing
more
police
officers,
but
we're
going
to
be
allowed
to
recruit
more
people
from
Alabama.
V
That
will
come
here
that
have
not
come
here,
because
they
simply
they
would
rather
work
in
Alabama
and
drive
their
cars
into
Columbus,
because
they're
allowed
to
do
that
opposed
to
working
here
and
driving
10
10
miles
into
Alabama,
and
certainly
we
need
a
policy
to
cover.
How
far
are
they
allowed
to
go
a
policy
to
cover
they're
not
allowed
to
use
blue
lights
and
siren
or
Run
Emergency
Equipment
inside
Alabama?
V
And
yes,
there's
some
there's
some
risk
there,
but
just
like
councilman
Judy
said
earlier,
we
run
the
risk
of
losing
police
officers
with
five
six
seven
years
experience
we're
losing
250
300
000
every
time
they
walk
out
the
door.
We
want
to
retain
this
training.
We
want
to
retain
these
experienced
police
officers
and
I
promise
you
you
guys
voting
for
this
is
going
to
put
a
shot
in
the
morale
at
the
police
department.
There's
nothing
that
I
could
do
that's
going
to
make
that
morale
as
higher
than
what
you
guys
are
voting
on
today.
V
B
Chief,
thank
you.
We
thank
the
men
and
women
of
the
Columbus
Police
Department,
we're
here
today
too,
to
make
sure
that
that
your
presence
was
noted
during
these
deliberations.
All
right.
There
is
a
motion
in
a
second
any
further
discussion.
W
B
And
we'll
the
City
attorney,
if
you
reach
out
to
Chief
Mathis
and
begin
to
start
pulling
together
some
type
of
policy
as
far
as
distance
from
the
border
and
any
you
know
the
lights
in
the
sirens
and
all
those
parameters,
Council
Tucker.
Q
Yes,
wild
Chief
Mathis
is
here,
I
wanted
to
thank
him
and
also
the
members
of
the
East
Precinct
and
whoever
has
been
on
the
detail.
That's
going
into
our
Parks
and
actually
I've
been
making
phone
calls
because
some
senior
citizens
they
part
of
neighborhood
watch
group.
They
send
photos
almost
every
day
of
criminal
activities
and
I'm
sure
that's
how
we
got
that
complaint
over
there
in
Belvedere
Park.
Q
So
I'm
thanking
you
on
behalf
of
this
myself,
but
the
citizens
of
district
four
I
I
wanted
to
actually
say
a
name
because
Sergeant
John
Duncan
he
actually
sent
out
some
individuals
yesterday
like
as
soon
as
I,
called
I
met
within
five
minutes
they're
there.
So
just
thank
you
for
really
just
getting
out
there
in
in
the
community.
I
appreciate
it
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
Thank
you.
Thank
all
of
you.
I
appreciate
you.
W
Thank
you,
ma'am
and
so
Mr
Mayor
we'll
have
that
on
the
next
agenda,
but
I
really
want
to.
This
is
Lauren
Lauren's
first
appearance
at
Council
as
our
new
risk
manager
and
and
you've
been
with
that
department
for
how
long
three.
AE
W
Years
and
was
trained
by
our
former
Rich
manager,
Anne
Marie,
Emil
and
Lauren.
W
B
W
Z
So
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
Council
Council,
actually
the
finance
director
would
be
giving
the
the
Spiel
of
this
is
in
accordance
with
13-39.
When
there's
going
to
be
a
over
budget
situation,
that
they
need
to
come
to
council
and
get
approval
to
go
over
budget,
and
so
that's
what
Legacy
Terrace
really
is
about.
Z
But
there
are
most
of
you
who
were
not
on
council
at
the
time
that
the
city
acquired
Legacy
terrorists,
so
I
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
history
for
information
on
those
Legacy
Terraces,
a
17
Unit,
affordable
housing
area,
it's
right
off
of
9th
Street
and
8th
Avenue.
So
this
kind
of
gets
you
oriented.
The
Liberty
Theater
is
to
the
South
and
then
to
the
West
would
be
the
jail.
Z
So
it's
located
in
the
Liberty,
District
and
Legacy
terrorists
was
a
facility
that
was
built
in
20
2006
through
a
partnership
that
we
had
with
Fourth
Street
Towers
Inc,
which
at
the
time
was
the
city's
choto,
and
that
was
done
since
1992.
The
Housing
Authority
used
to
operate
our
cdbg
home
program,
and
so
they
had
established
four
Street
Tower
Inc
as
the
choto.
When
the
city
took
over
the
home
program
again
back
in
98,
we
continued
to
do
Partnerships
with
four
Street
Towers
Inc
and
so
as
part
of
the
home
program.
Z
Z
So
in
January
of
2004,
the
cdac
board
reviewed
and
approved
the
initial
allocation,
and
that
was
eventually
approved
by
Council
of
350
000.
There
were
additional
allocations
for
the
construction
of
Legacy
terrorists
through
the
home
program,
totaling
944
000,
the
total
project
was
2.5
million.
Four
Street
Towers
Inc
did
get
a
private
loan
for
the
difference
of
about
one
and
a
half
million
dollars.
They
put
Legacy
terrorists
as
a
collateral,
as
well
as
eight
other
properties
as
a
collateral
for
that
loan.
Z
That
were
also
funded
through
the
home
program,
and
there
is
also
a
20-year
affordable
period,
affordability
period
whenever
our
federal
funds
are
used.
So
there
was,
it
still
was
in
the
affordable
period
for
that
program.
So,
as
I
stated,
they
had
collateralized
their
private
loan
with
eight
properties,
as
well
as
this
particular
property,
and
they
began
to
struggle
to
meet
the
financial
obligations
to
pay
that
loan
with
SunTrust,
because
they
were
only
renting
about
four
of
those
17
units
and
so
back
when
to
avoid
the
private
loan
going
into
foreclosure.
Z
The
city
would
have
been
obligated
to
not
only
repay
the
home
for
this
property,
but
also
the
eight
other
properties,
because
that
would
have
been
taken
if
the
loan
foreclosed,
so
that
was
about
1.6
million
dollars
So
at
the
time
when
this
discussion
was
going
on
with
city
council
back
in
2009,
the
city
acquired
Legacy
Terrace
for
a
million
dollars
that
was
done
through
an
approval
by
Council
resolution
088-09
and
the
affordable
affordability
period
for
legacy.
Terrorists
goes
all
the
way
through
2027.
Z
We
also
at
the
time
when
Legacy
terrorists
was
acquired.
We
contracted
with
the
housing
authority
to
manage
the
property.
We
are
not
as
a
city
in
the
business
of
property
management
for
these
types
of
facility
facilities,
there's
also
a
lot
of
Home
requirements
related
to
these
type
of
properties.
You
have
to
continue
to
review
the
eligibility
of
the
occupants,
and
so
it
was
a
partnership
that
we
developed
with
the
Housing
Authority
that
would
operate
the
facility.
Z
So
what
brings
us
here
today
is
that
any
excess
Revenue
over
expenditures
is
remitted
to
us
monthly
by
the
Housing
Authority.
Those
funds
are
reserved
specifically
for
legacy
terrorists
and
so
from
2009
through
2019.
We
did
accumulate
a
balance
of
over
three
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars.
We
did
have
some
major
repairs
that
we
came
and
discussed
with
you
in
2019
that
depleted
our
Reserve
to
about
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
February
of
22.
Z
We
came
to
again
because
there
were
some
issues
with
termites
at
that
facility
and
we
estimated
through
the
in
the
architect
that
was
working
with
the
Housing
Authority
for
those
repairs
to
be
about
ninety
one
thousand
dollars,
and
at
that
time
we
had
reserves
of
about
ninety
five
thousand
dollars,
and
so
we
felt
comfortable
with
the
estimate
from
the
architect
that
we
could
make
those
improvements
and
correct
the
units.
There
were
two
units
that
really
had
a
lot
of
termite
damage.
The
actual
repair
cost
came
in
at
135
000.,
yes,
ma'am.
Z
Here
so
the
estimate,
the
actual
repairs
came
in
at
135
000.
Our
current
Reserve
balance
is
a
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
that
Reserve
balance
is
through
April.
We
haven't,
we
just
received,
may
I
think
it
was
another
additional
thousand
dollars,
so
it
might
be
at
about
a
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand.
So
the
funding
requirement
to
make
these
improvements
and
to
reimburse
the
housing
authority,
and
the
request
is
just
over
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
for
legacy
terrorists.
Z
There
has
been
some
discussion
with
the
Housing
Authority
about
the
facility
we
have
looked.
They
do
monthly
inspections
on
the
HVAC
system,
they
have
had
the
roof
inspected
and
at
this
time
does
not
require
any
replacement,
but
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
ongoing
maintenance
at
this
facility.
It's.
E
Z
Since
2006,
so
it's
17
years
old,
but
we
are
in
the
affordability
period,
and
so
until
we
end
the
affordability
period,
we
have
to
maintain
this
as
an
affordable
housing
facility
and
our
best
Partners,
we
feel
is
the
Housing
Authority,
because
that's
what
they
do
is
manage
affordable
housing,
and
so
the
request
is
to
fund
the
balance
out
of
reserves
of
just
over
twenty
thousand
dollars.
We
will
replenish
the
reserves,
as
we
collect
each
month
from
the
Housing
Authority
moving
forward,
and
so
it
will
hopefully
by
the
end
of
FY
24.
Z
This
will
be
replenished
through
those
monthly
checks
that
we
get
from
the
Housing
Authority
for
the
operation
of
Legacy
terrorists,
and
we
are
you
know.
Looking
at
this
was
a
termite
issue.
They
do
have
a
termite
replace
a
re-treatment
bond
so
that
when
additional
termites
come
up,
they
come
out
and
retreat.
Z
They
were
not
able
to
get
a
termite
repair
Bond,
meaning
that
their
company
would
not
guarantee
that
they
would
come
in
and
make
the
repairs
if
there
were
additional
termite
damage
because
of
the
type
of
termite
and
I'm,
not
a
termite
person,
but
I
from
what
I
understand.
This
particular
type
of
termite
is
very
aggressive
and
they
were
not
able
to
get
a
replace
over
repair
Bond
only
a
re-treatment
bond.
Z
O
You
man
I'll,
make
that
motion
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
other
choice
at
this
point,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you,
mayor,
Deputy
city
manager,
Hodge
Mr,
city
manager.
Thank
you
all,
for
we
had
a
a
little
meeting
yesterday
and
we
got
a
lot
of
stuff
out
on
the
table
and
talked
about
I.
Think
everybody
kind
of
made
some
good
points
and
some
concerns
I,
wouldn't
encourage.
O
Maybe
I
look
I
can't
tell
the
Housing
Authority
who
the
county
can't
use,
but
I
I
think
there
are
like
I
stated
some
new
treatments
out
there
that
that
you
know
quite
possibly
would
allow
for
further
protection,
but
that
might
be
a
necessary
any
way
possible
there.
Just
by
the
nature
of
like
the
deputy
city
manager.
Just
said,
you
know
the
nature
of
the
of
the
Beast
so
anyway,
but
thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
and
and
having
that
conversation.
M
Z
M
And
was
that
Council
Davis
motion
to
do
that?
Okay,
I'll
suck
at
that
much
all.
B
Right,
there's
a
motion.
A
second:
is
there
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Anyone
opposed
all
right.
That's
approved.
Thank.
O
Counselor
Davis,
before
you
conclude,
Mr
manager,
I
just
got
to
tell
you
something.
Yes,
sir
Friday
night
I
was
out.
I
was
out
in
the
Uptown
area
and
actually
I
gave
counselor
Coco
a
really
really
hard
time.
But
I
got
a
hard
time
from
my
wife
because
she
she
reminded
me
that
I
wasn't.
We.
L
O
And
she
quickly
reminded
me
that
you
need
to
park
correctly
and
I'm,
like
I
am
I'm
in
a
parking
space.
She
said
no
you're
not
and
anyway,
I
opened
the
door
and
looked
out
and
and
I
wasn't
and
it
and
it
hit
me-
and
we
talked
about
I-
think
we
talked
about
this
before,
but
it
it
kind
of
hit
me
and
and
I'm,
not
sure.
O
If
I
remember
the
conversation
right,
we
talked
about.
Maybe
some
of
the
vendors
not
being
able
to
I
guess:
do
the
work
in
a
timely
manner
and
I
think
we
talked
about.
Do
we
have
the
ability
to
go
out
and
reach
out
and
go
out
to
other
vendors
that
might
be
able
to
do
it,
but
I
really
and
I.
O
I
I
told
my
wife,
I'm
gonna
call
the
counselor
of
the
district
and
give
her
heck
and
I
did
and
and
I
told
her
that
you
know
she
needs
to
get
matters
taken
care
of
her
District.
Now
it
was
jokingly.
I
did
that,
but
I
guess.
My
point
is
that
the
I
think
we
need
a
little
TLC
in
some
areas
down
there
in
uptown,
because
you
really
at
night
time,
maybe
I'm,
just
old
I,
don't
know
can't
see
anymore
but
used
to
have
pretty
good
eye
vision.
O
You
know
at
one
time
but
I,
you
know
striping
the
lines
and
and
being
able
to
delineate
when
the
parking
spaces
down
there
I
think
is
real
important
and
there
are
there's
some
places
down
here.
You
can't
you
just
can't
see
you
really
can't,
especially
at
night
time,
and
you
know,
and
maybe
some
other
areas
about
limit
up
lemon
up,
Trees
and
Landscaping,
and
things
like
that.
I
think
it
would
go
a
long
way.
B
W
I
thought
I'd
just
share
that
with
you
yeah
we'll
we'll
list
it
as
a
referral
on
that
list.
That
I
talked
about
earlier
and
I
mean
it
it'll,
be
a
work
order
assignment
to
those
responsible
for
striping
or
trimming
up
and
all
that
okay.
But
you
may
need
to
get
your
eyes
examined,
because
you
said
your
wife
noticed
that
you
and
you
didn't.
X
Right,
Google,
I'm
gonna
defend
myself
here
a
little
bit
there,
counselor
Davis,
but
I
think
I,
I've
I've
addressed
it
several
times
with
with
engineering,
and
you
know,
I
and
we've
had
a
couple
sidebar
conversations
about
not
having
the
the
people
to
stripe.
X
It
and
I
think
our
last
conversation
was
that
the
restriping
was
supposed
to
be
taken
care
of
in
October
prior
to
rush
South,
but
just
for
the
record
once
again,
we
can't
just
keep
waiting
for
a
a
an
event
to
happen
in
uptown
in
order
to
dress
up
our
city
like
this,
just
has
to
be
a
continual
effort
of
getting
ahead
of
the
game
and
being
proactive
rather
than
reactive,
and
you
we
do.
X
We
do
highlight
Uptown
on
and
the
Riverwalk
streetscape
on
every
single
piece
of
marketing
material
that
we
have
in
Columbus
and
if
we
can't,
if
we
can't
keep
it
pretty
and
pristine,
then
that's
what
our
tourists
and
that's
what
our
citizens
who
are
using
the
Uptown
area
are
seeing
you
know
and
and
I
will
Champion
for
you
know
Citywide
but
as
well,
but
you
know
just
even
off
of
Ryan's
presentation
of
the
the
homeless
or
the
trash
situation
in
the
stairwells.
X
That's
not
just
at
the
Civic
Center
or
that's
not
just
at
the
city,
the
city
center
or
what
a
sonova
center
or
whatever.
We
want
we're,
calling
it
right
now,
City
Hall,
that's
in
almost
every
single
parking
deck.
That's
at
you
know
that's
at
the
Walmart
parking
deck
and
the
walkover
in
in
South
Columbus.
So
it's
it's
in
the
the
the
parking
decks,
the
old
Ledger
Inquirer.
It's
in
the
the
CSU
parking
decks.
It's
just.
X
We
just
need
to
maybe
tighten
up
just
a
little
bit
and
and
just
really
not
wait
for
events
to
happen
in
order
to
to
clean
up
those
areas.
X
E
W
O
O
P
Councilor
Huff,
yes,
Mr
manager.
They
are
working
now
on
the
I-185
Oakland
City
Road
Project
yeah
out
by
Mount
Pilgrim
we're
coming
from
Far
road
back
to
Cathedral
Oklahoma.
All
the
outgrowth
outgrowth
outgrowth
is
coming
back
out
where
you
can't
see
the
stop
signs
and
everything.
So
if
you
could
get
it
trimmed
back,
I
know
if
it's
still
on
us.
P
W
And
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
I
think
what
we're
going
to
try
and
do
a
better
job
is
gauging
how
long
it
will
take
us
to
get
to
like
in
the
in
the
Referral
List
some
things
as
I
said,
based
on
resources.
W
W
What
you
know:
Steve
Miller
near
Diamond
school,
where
kids
got
I
mean
you,
and
so
we
are
going
to
get
it.
But
but
you
know,
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we
are
service
in
all
of
the
right-of-way
street
sweepers.
You
know
we
so
we're
going
to
get
it
and
and
that's
why,
on
that
Referral
List
we've
got
to
say
you
know
we're
getting
closer.
W
We
got
to
give
some
kind
of
time
frame
so
that
you
know,
and
so
we
got
to
work
to
perfect
that
list
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
once
we
get
it
right.
It's
going
to
be
a
good
Referral
List
for
for
the
mayor
council,
but
but
we
we
got
it.
Q
Yes,
city
manager,
can
you
add
on
the
list
to
make
a
actual
telephone
contact
to
the
individual
I?
Think
it's
the
post
office
on
Buena
Vista
Road,
the
Old
Post
Office.
E
Q
They're,
so
we
did
a
really
good
job
working
with
the
new
owners
that
bought
that
old
Walmart,
but
what
they
did
was
they
crossed
the
street
so
now
they're
parking
the
trucks,
the
18
wheelers
yeah,
the
old
Walmart.
So
now
they're
mostly
parking
in
front
of
the
old
post
office
across
the
street.
Behind,
in
that
little.
Q
E
Q
Q
So
the
old
post
office,
if
we
can
actually
make
a
phone
call
okay,.
Q
Of
sending
out
a
letter
yeah,
but
really
taking
some
action
to
truly
get
in
contact
with
whoever
owns.
Q
I
was
told
that
it
was
sold
I'm,
not
sure,
but
whoever
owns
that
property
yeah.
That
way
we
can
get
those
trucks
removed
from
over
there
and
clean
that
area
up.
Okay,.
W
All
right
and
I
believe
you
asked
for
a
report
on
something
else,
but
Donna
the
engine
director
left.
B
B
AA
Does
she
desires
to
vacate
her
seat
and
wants
to
do
that
as
soon
as
a
successor
is
appointed.
AA
B
AA
B
Motion
second,
to
prove
Miss,
Turner,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Anyone
opposed
she's,
confirmed.
AA
B
B
AA
AA
B
O
Councilor
Davis
mayor
just
just
an
understanding
on
the
on
the
audit
committee,
I'm
I,
an
update,
I,
guess:
we've
got
everything
taken
care
of
to
to
get
everybody
confirmed,
move
forward.
I
believe
you
have
a
couple
of
minor
already.
Yours
are
done
too.
So,
okay,
just
trying
to
get
an
update
of
where
we're
at
on
that
on
the
on
the
committee.
When
will
it
start
actually
taking
action
or
functionally.
AA
Council
Davis
the
clerk's
office
will
set
up
the
initial
meeting
with
the
committee
members
and
then
we'll.
The
committee
will
make
certain
decisions
about
Vice,
chair
and
those
type
of
things
and
how
often
they
are
going
to
be
meeting.
But
the
clerk's
office
will
set
up
the
initial
meeting
for
the
committee
good.
B
All
right
and
Mr
City
attorney.
We
have
a
couple
of
items:
an
executive
session.
B
B
All
right,
we
are
out
of
special
excuse
me.
We
are
out
of
special
session
executive
session.
It
was
special,
though,
and
back
in
regular
session,
we
discussed
litigation
potential
litigation,
Personnel
real
estate
acquisition
disposal.
No
votes
were
taken
on
those
items.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
City
attorney
Mr
Faye.
H
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor
I'm,
going
to
call
up
a
resolution.
It's
been
distributed
around
the
table,
so
it
authorize
the
settlement
of
the
case
of
Ralph,
Dow
and
Alan
Tony
Lytle
versus
Columbus,
consolidated
government
and
other
officials
for
a
total
payment
of
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
ready
for
action.