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A
B
Mayor
skip
Henderson
city
manager,
Isaiah
Hughley
pops,
Barnes
district,
one
Glenn
Davis
district
2,
Bruce
Huff
District
3,
Toya,
Tucker,
District,
4,
Charmaine,
crab
District,
5,
Gary,
Allen,
mayor
Pro,
tem
and
District
Six
Joanne
kogel
District,
Seven,
Walker,
Garrett,
District,
8,
Judy,
Thomas
posts;
nine
at
large
counselor
John
house,
Post
10
at
large
counselor,
Sandra,
Davis,
Clerk
of
counsel
and
City
Attorney
Clifton
Faye,
Columbus
Georgia.
This
is
your
city
council.
C
Thank
you,
council
meeting.
We've
got
a
lot
of
business
to
cover
today,
so
we'll
we'll
get
right
to
it,
but
before
we
do
we'll
start
as
we
always
do,
and
that
is
by
asking
God's
presence
in
this
room
as
we
deliberate
the
business
of
the
city.
So
I
want
to
ask
to
the
podium
my
friend
Reverend
Emily
Bell,
from
forgiving
heart
United
Church
of
Christ
of
Columbus.
D
D
D
But
what
do
we
need
to
learn
and
how
might
we
need
to
change
remind
them
that
they
are
not
only
leaders
but
also
servant
leaders,
and
that
is
their
responsibility
to
serve
the
common
good
of
all
help
us
also
to
remember
that,
no
matter
where
we
live
everyone,
black
white
hispanic,
Asian,
gay,
straight
transgender,
Muslim,
Jew,
Hindu,
she
and
or
atheists.
We
are
all
Neighbors
and
we're
all
part
of
this
wonderful
City
and
we
pray
this
in
the
name
of
the
one
which
of
us
holds
sacred
and
holy
amen,
amen.
C
Thank
you
all
right.
First
order
of
business
was
the
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
March
28th.
There's
a
motion,
a
second
to
prove
the
minutes
from
the
28th
of
March
any
edits
or
discussion.
Counselor
Tucker
are
you.
Is
that
to
this?
Okay,
all
right
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
any
post!
All
right
minutes
are
are
approved.
We've
got
a
couple
of
proclamations.
The
first
one
is
counselor.
Tucker
keep
Columbus
beautiful,
mayor's
inaugural
golf
tournament.
C
That
ought
to
be
worth
the
price
of
admission
just
to
watch.
The
mayor
make
a
idiot
of
himself,
but.
F
Okay,
I
want
to
welcome
the
key
Columbus
beautiful
team
up.
F
G
Good
morning,
thank
you
so
much
and
I
want
to
say
mayor.
Thank
you
for
agreeing
to
be
the
face
and
the
Ambassador
for
our
annual
golf
tournament
and
the
renaming.
So
thank
you
and
I
have
with
me
today
our
chairperson
this
year
for
the
golf
tournament,
Jason
Cooper.
H
I
H
I
Good
morning
my
name
is
Oz
Roberts
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
support
of
this
tournament.
K
C
So
looking
forward
to
it,
thank
you,
listen
I
do
want
to
thank
the
board
and,
of
course,
Lisa
does
an
incredible
job
and
and
all
kidding
aside
and
one
of
the
things
that
all
of
us
have
noticed
ever
since
the
pandemic.
Kid
is
the
increased
amount
of
litter
that
we
see
in
our
roadways
and
it
detracts
from
the
beauty
of
our
city.
So
it
truly
was
an
honor
to
be
able
to
provide
any
help
that
I
can
to
this
group
to
try
to
continue
to
further
those
efforts
and
I'll.
C
Tell
you
it's
not
too
late
to
put
in
a
team.
You
can
call
call
Lisa,
Cuts
or
reach
out
to
one
of
the
board
members
or
call
my
office
we'll
get
you
we'll
get
you
signed
up.
It's
going
to
be
a
day
of
fun.
That's
going
to
really
be
a
productive
opportunity
for
our
community
as
well.
Mr
city
manager,
good.
L
Mayor
I
just
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
steal
from
the
moment,
but
want
to
take
this
opportunity
at
first
to
commend
and
congratulate
keep
Columbus
beautiful
for
this
idea
of
an
inaugural
mayor's
golf
tournament,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
your
golf
game
it'll
be
on
full
display,
but
but
I
I
did
mayor
you.
You
made
the
point
that,
since
the
pandemic,
we've
witnessed
increased
the
litter
in
roadways
and
and
I
want
to
add
to
the
increase.
L
Litter
We've
witnessed
increased
dumping
in
areas
of
our
community
and
keep
Columbus
beautiful
and
the
team
to
do
a
great
job
in
what
they
do,
but
they
need
all
of
us
to
assist
them
in
discouraging
those
who
were
littering
and
and
dumping
and
I
wanted
to
take
this
just
a
quick
moment
to
highlight
that
a
week
and
a
half
two
weeks
ago
my
sister
witnessed
dumping
and
she
was
bold
enough
to
pulled
up
pull
up
where
they
were
dumping
on
Matilda
Lane
at
Isaac
drive
because
we
know
that's
a
regular
area
and
she
asked
him-
please
don't
dump
in
my
neighborhood
and
one
of
the
guys
in
the
truck
he
stepped
aside,
because
she
started
videoing
and
taking
photos
and
the
other
guy
just
blew
her
off
and
said:
don't
pay
her
any
attention?
L
She
texted
those
pictures,
those
photos
to
me:
I
texted,
those
photos
to
our
team
ran
Pruitt
and
the
team
and
I
directed
them
to
go
and
get
them
because
she
did
take
a
photo
of
the
tag
number
and
our
team
went
out
and
got
them
and
they
are
going
to
court
on
the
19th.
L
My
sister
is
going
as
a
witness
and
I'm
going
to
be
standing
there
with
her
as
city
manager
of
Columbus
Georgia,
to
urge
the
judge
to
apply
the
maximum
penalty
and
I
I'm
saying
this,
because
I
wanted
to
be
an
example
to
others
that
take
photos
and
be
willing
to
go
to
court
and
we
can
stop
some
of
the
illegal
dumping.
But
this
team
keep
Columbus
beautiful,
doing
a
great
job.
L
But
we
got
to
get
serious
about
keeping
Columbus
beautiful,
keeping
Georgia
beautiful
and
sending
those
to
jail
or
find
them
when
they
violate
our
community
mayor.
So
I
just
wanted
to
commend
them
on
their
work
and
thank
them
and
urge
others
to
do
what
I'm
going
to
do
on
the
19th.
When
I
go
to
court.
G
Oh,
thank
you
so
much
Mr
city
manager,
and
we
really
need
everybody
in
and
all
hands
on
deck,
because
Columbus
is
a
beautiful
city
and
we
want
to
get
it
back
into
this
natural,
beautiful
state.
G
That's
why,
during
as
the
mayor
read
the
proclamation
we're
hosting
our
Earth
week
celebration,
anybody
can
help
it
doesn't
matter
what
your
status
is
your
economic
race.
You
can
start
with
small
steps
at
home,
even
using
a
recyclable
cup.
You
can
help
we're
hosting
a
cleanup
effort
on
the
week
of
Earth
week
in
Bellwood
community
and
we're
asking
you
can
still
have
time
to
volunteer
for
that
effort.
We
have
a
shred
day.
G
Get
rid
of
illegal
I
mean
like
illegal,
but
important
security
documents
that
you
don't
want
to
throw
in
the
trash
can
so
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that
you
can
help
pitch
in.
If
you
want
to
sponsor
a
community
cleanup
in
your
neighborhood,
just
call
us
we
can
assist.
So
we
just
need
help
right
now,
because
it's
very
important
to
keep
Columbus
beautiful
and
to
get
back
into
this
natural,
beautiful
state
and.
G
C
E
C
Our
next
Proclamation
is
going
to
be
read
by
councilor
Tucker
and
it's
in
recognition
of
the
teacher
of
the
year,
but
I
also
want
to
welcome
David
Lewis.
Our.
E
M
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
each
year
the
Muskogee
educational
Excellence
Foundation
recognizes
the
teachers
of
the
year
in
the
Muskogee
County
School
District.
This
is
an
organization
that
was
established
by
former
superintendent
Dr
Jim
button
and
its
purpose
is
to
recognize
and
reward
outstanding
teachers.
M
The
way
this
works
is
that
each
School
in
the
district
The
Faculty
selects
a
member
of
their
faculty
to
be
their
teacher
of
the
year
and
those
teachers
fill
out
forms
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
are
we
come
up
then,
with
the
top
10
and
out
of
the
top
10
we
get
the
teacher
of
the
year
and
it's
my
pleasure
and
honor
this
morning
to
read
the
proclamation
for
this
year's
teacher
of
the
year.
Miss
Ellis.
Will
you
come
to
the
platform
Dr
Dr
Lewis?
You
want
to
come
with
her.
M
M
Fellow
and
whereas,
because
of
this
amazing
service
to
her
students
and
her
school
Vanessa
was
named.
Muskogee
County
School,
District
Teacher
of
the
Year
by
the
Muskogee
educational
Excellence
foundation
in
May
of
2022
and
whereas
Vanessa
represents
Columbus.
So
well.
She
has
been
named
one
of
the
2023
Georgia
top
10
teachers
of
the
year
and
whereas
the
city
of
Columbus
city
council
recognizes
the
value
of
our
community's
exceptional
teachers,
how
they
make
a
difference
in
the
lives
of
our
children
and
how
well
they
serve
our
school
district
and
our
community
as
incredible
citizens.
M
N
Oh
wow,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
lovely
introduction.
Good
morning,
mayor
Henderson,
members
of
the
Columbus
city,
council
and
citizens
of
Columbus
Georgia
again,
my
name
is
Vanessa
Ellis
I'm,
an
8th
grade,
Georgia
teach
Georgia
studies,
teacher
at
Veterans,
Memorial,
Middle
School
go
rangers
and
I'm.
The
teacher
of
the
year
for
Muskogee
County,
School
District
and,
like
Miss
Thomas,
said
I've
recently
been
named
a
finalist
for
the
Georgia
teacher
of
the
year.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
having
me
this
morning.
It
is
an
absolute
pleasure
to
speak
with
you
all.
N
The
teacher
of
the
year
program
for
Muskogee
County
is
run
by
the
Muskogee
educational
Excellence
Foundation
more
commonly
called
meath
a
non-profit
organization
whose
sole
Mission
it
is
to
recognize
and
reward
outstanding
teachers
in
our
school
district
to
reach
its
Mission
meath
has
raised
millions
of
dollars
to
sponsor
the
Harvard
fellows
program.
The
teacher
of
the
year
Gala
and
professional
development
opportunities
to
support
teachers,
me's
passion
for
public
education
and
supporting
teachers
is
infinite.
They
are
boots
on
the
ground,
putting
in
work
to
make
sure
teachers
in
Muskogee
County
receive
the
recognition
and
support.
N
N
I
want
to
take
a
minute
to
share
with
you
guys
about
why
I
believe
in
public
education
and
why
I'm
so
incredibly
proud
to
be
a
teacher
in
our
school
district.
Muskogee
County
is
the
second
largest
employer
in
Columbus
behind
Fort
Benning
and
above
tesys
and
Aflac.
We
have
about
5
500
employees
serving
37
757
students
across
54
schools.
More
than
92
percent
of
all
school-aged
children
in
Muskogee
County
attend
our
Public
Schools.
N
What
an
awesome
responsibility
teachers
have
in
empowering
students
to
achieve
success
and
reach
their
unlimited
potential,
I
believe
in
public
education,
because
I
am
a
product
of
it
growing
up
as
a
low-income
student
I
was
a
beneficiary
of
all
that
our
public
schools
had
to
offer
bus
transportation
got
me
to
and
from
school
each
day,
I
eat
free
school
lunch
meals
for
breakfast
and
lunch.
I
received
preventative
health
screenings
at
school,
I
took
art
and
music
classes
which
culturally
enriched
my
life.
N
I
went
on
field
trips
that
showed
me
an
entire
world
beyond
my
neighborhood,
an
educational
Outreach
programs
that
brought
the
community
into
my
classroom.
I
joined
extracurricular
activities
like
marching
band
and
cheerleading
that
Foster
team
building
and
enhanced
the
spirit,
climate
and
culture
at
my
schools
and
because
I
had
amazing
teachers
who
believed
in
me
challenged
me
and
mentored
me.
I
was
salutatorian
of
my
graduating
class
at
Jordan,
Vocational
High
School
talk
about
developing
the
whole
child.
N
I
went
on
to
teach
in
the
school
system
that
raised
me
Teach
alongside
Educators,
who
taught
me
marry
a
fellow
educator,
and
now
our
children
attend
mcsd
schools,
I've
gone
from
experiencing
the
power
of
public
education
as
a
student
to
witnessing
it
every
day,
as
a
teacher
and
as
a
parent
for
some
school
propels
them
on
a
clearly
defined
path
already
laid
out
for
them.
But
for
our
most
vulnerable
public
school
is
literally
their
savior
like
it
was
for
me,
City
Council,
Members
I.
N
Ask
that
you
continue
to
support
public
school
education
by
supporting
the
Muskogee
County
School
District,
advocating
for
teachers
and
speaking
life
into
our
profession
and
investing
in
community
programs
that
support
the
development
of
the
whole
child.
The
students
and
teachers
of
our
school
district
are
counting
on
you.
Thank
you.
I
I,
just
simply
wanted
to
say,
I
think
it's
clear
to
see
why
she
has
such
a
tremendous
Ambassador
not
only
for
public
education
but
Muskogee
County
School
District
for
the,
but
for
the
entire
city
of
Columbus.
He's
a
great
Ambassador
and
she'll
be
interviewing
for
the
top
10
teacher
of
the
year
to
become
the
top
Teacher
of
the
Year
this
coming
Monday.
I
So
we
wish
her
all
the
best,
but
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
mayor
Henderson,
all
the
city
council,
for
this
recognition
not
only
of
Miss
Ellis,
but
a
public
education
and
all
the
great
teachers
we
have
in
our
system.
I
think
she'd
be
the
first
to
tell
you.
She
is
just
one
of
many
tremendous
and
outstanding
teachers.
We
have
in
our
system
and
I'm
just
so
very
proud
of
her,
and
thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
recognize
her
at
this
at
the
meeting
this
morning.
C
Well,
Miss
Ellis.
We
want
to
say
again,
congratulations
on
wide
range
of
recognitions,
they're
all
incredibly
well
deserved.
We
can
tell
you're,
actually
I
think
we
all
consider
you
to
be
a
hero
among
Heroes,
and
we
thank
you
for
what
you
have
done
and
what
you
continue
to
do.
We
do
have
a
copy
of
the
Proclamation.
M
Mayor
I
I
do
want
to
say
Rumor
Has
It
Well,
since
2009
there
have
been
five
Muskogee
County
district
teachers
who
have
been
in
the
top
10
running
for
the
state
teacher
of
the
year.
In
the
last
five
years
there
have
been
three
Rumor
Has
It
that
Miss
Ellis
is
going
to
be
the
the
next
one,
and
if
you
paid
attention
to
what
she
said,
you
can
certainly
understand
that
designation.
We
are
so
proud
of
you
and
all
you
have
done.
My
niece
happens
to
go
to
Veterans
and
she
said.
M
C
C
C
Next
is
fair
housing
month
with
counselor
crab
counselor.
P
P
Emma
and
I
in
our
department
have
worked
hard
every
day.
We
work
to
affirmatively,
further
fair
housing,
and
so
this
month,
being
fair
housing
month,
we'd
like
to
introduce
two
opportunities
on
April
26th
and
we
partner
with
tbg
residential
services
to
provide
a
fair
housing
seminar
right
here
in
council
chambers,
from
4
to
6
PM,
where
we're
going
to
discuss
things
like
the
history
of
Fair
Housing
attendance
rights,
as
well
as
discuss
and
share
local
resources
that
may
be
available
to
those
and
then
the
following
day.
P
We
partner
with
the
housing
authority
to
host
another
fair
housing
event.
That's
geared
towards
landlords,
it'll
be
in
a
community
room
here
in
the
citizen
service
center
from
1
to
5
PM,
and
we're
going
to
discuss
things
like
the
history
of
Fair,
Housing,
landlord
responsibility
and
discriminatory
housing
practices
and
how
to
prevent
it
from
happening
here
in
our
community.
So
you
like
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
recognizing
that
this
month
is
fair
housing
month
and
being
committed
to
furthering
fair
housing
here
locally.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
C
Okay,
I'll
mentioned
Public
Safety
one.
If
you
want
to
mention
that
I
was
gonna,
do
it.
C
While
we're
acknowledging
some
of
the
folks
that
do
great
things
in
and
around
our
communities,
councilor,
Tucker
and
I
were
talking
about
a
couple
of
other
events.
One
I'll
mention
is
the
national
public
safety
telecommunicators
week,
which
is
from
the
9th
through
the
15th.
These
are
9-1-1
folks
and
I'm
telling
you
we
talk
about
First
Responders.
C
They
are
the
first
first
responder,
because
if
they
don't
handle
those
calls
and
if
they
don't
prioritize
them-
and
they
don't
get
them
through
to
the
officers
to
to
start
the
call
it,
it
slows
the
whole
thing
down.
They
do
a
fantastic
job.
If
you
know
anybody,
that's
in
that
profession,
thank
them
for
what
they
do.
This
week,
Council
Tucker.
F
And
the
next
one
is
actually
national
animal
care,
control,
officer,
Appreciation,
Week,
something
that
we
get
a
lot
of
calls
about
as
as
counselors,
but
we
want
to
recognize
our
Animal
Care
Control
Officers
and
since
we
will
not
be
here,
we
also
next
week
is
National
volunteer,
Appreciation
Week.
So.
C
Thank
you
mayor,
yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you.
We
do
have
one
more
resolution
to
offer
up.
It
is
to
gain
the
authorization
of
council
for
acceptance
of
donations
in
support
of
the
mayor's
commission
for
Unity
diversity
and
prosperity's
black
historical
monument
project,
a
motion,
a
second
to
approve
any
discussion
hearing,
not
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
any
post,
very
good,
that's
it
and
that
completes
my
agenda.
Mr
City
attorney.
Q
Later
I
do
see
Miss
Ella
Maine.
If
she
wants
to
speak
on
this
ordinance
or
the
next
one
before
they
vote,
Yes
I'd
be
at
the.
C
Council
yeah,
we
had
a
a
quite
a
crowd,
I
think
at
the
last
meeting,
and
there
were
some
people
who
wished
to
speak
on
the
first
readings
that
we
had
who
were
not
able
to
gain
entrance
into
the
into
the
chamber.
So
if
anybody
who
is
here
who
was
kind
of
locked
outside
for
a
little
while
that
wishes
to
speak
to
those
first
readings
from
last
week,
we
will
offer
them
an
opportunity.
I
think
Miss
elmene
wanted
to
speak
to
item
two
item,
one,
the
seller,
man.
You
can
come
forward
ma'am.
Q
R
Excuse
me
Mr,
Mayor
and
City
attorney.
It
was
actually
the
employee
Personnel
relations
ordinance.
That
was
due
to
be
voted
today.
That
I
was
most
interested
in
I.
Don't
know
much
about
those
coins.
R
Q
C
A
second
approach
item,
one
any
discussion
hearing,
none.
If
you
would
register
your
votes,
you
cue
it.
Q
Item
two:
this
is
a
vote
on
a
housekeeping
measure
that
would
align
the
pay
plan
with
our
existing
ordinances
for
promotion,
demotion
and
transfers.
But
we've
got
umizo
Maine
who
wants
to
speak
and
then
Ms
Hollowell
may
be
here.
I
don't
know
if
she
wants
to
comment,
but
we'll
see.
R
Mr
City
attorney
I
would
appreciate
it
if
Miss
Hollowell
could
make
her
presentation,
because
what
I
did
yesterday
was
I,
went
to
the
library
and
found
what
the
current
articles
are
on
that
and,
quite
frankly,
I
would
like
a
little
bit
more
education
before
I
speak
to
the
ordinance
that
you're
proposing,
because
there
are
quite
a
few
changes
and
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
call
Miss,
Hollowell
and
I
would
appreciate
it
if
she
can
explain
why
there
so
many
changes
to
the
existing
articles,
because
this
article
3
in
article
seven,
there
are
two
articles
that
deal
with
promotions
transfers,
devotions
and
with
the
pay
plan.
A
L
T
Good
morning,
this
particular
ordinance
speaks
specifically
to
inter-departmental
transfers.
The
promotions
and
emotions
ordinances
have
already
been
adopted
as
a
part
of
the
new
pay
plan.
So
this
is
a
interdepartmental
transfer
ordinance
which
goes
with
the
promotions
and
demotions
ordinance
so
that
they
can
be
in
sync
and
that
they
can
work
together.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
the
inter-departmental
transfer
ordinance
Miss
Alamein
spoke
to
article
3.
Article
3
relates
to
the
pay
plan.
T
Ordinance
and
article
7
relates
to
Promotions
transfers
and
emotions,
and
the
reason
for
that
cleanup
is
so
that
any
of
the
old
pay
plan,
ordinances
that
were
in
place
would
not
conflict
with
these
newly
adopted
ordinances
with
the
pay
plan.
So
those
those
are
just
clean
up,
but
basically
the
inter-departmental
transfer
ordinance
at
a
very,
very
high
level.
It
outlines
how
an
employee
and
general
government,
as
well
as
Public
Safety
transfers
from
one
Department
to
another.
It
outlines
what
happens
when
that
employee
transfers.
T
Basically,
if
you're
transferred
and
it's
at
a
higher
pay
grade,
you
had
Advanced
six
steps,
which
equates
to
about
six
percent
pay
increase.
If
you
transfer
and
it's
a
lateral
transfer
or
it's
a
pay
grade
lesser
than
that
employee
starts
at
the
step,
one
of
the
pay
grade
that
they
are
transferring
to.
However,
based
on
their
years
or
service,
they
may
be
moved
out
on
the
pay
scale
up
to
six
steps.
That
is
a
gist
of
it.
T
It
also
the
very
last
of
the
ordinance
also
allows
for
Section
16b
section
7
pertains
to
a
probationary
period,
which
we
have
not
had
in
place.
Basically,
it
says
that
employees
are
not
going
to
be
eligible
for
a
transfer
or
to
be
promoted
to
another
department
until
they
have
completed
their
probationary
period.
So.
A
T
R
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
really
appreciate
you
opening
up
the
public
hearing
for
the
citizens.
People
should
be
aware
that
when
there's
a
first
reading,
it's
an
automatic
public
Hearing
in
any
citizen
should
be
allowed
to
come
before
this
body
and
speak
on
the
issue
of
the
first
reading.
R
The
deputies
did
not
understand
that
on
March
28th
and
when
I
saw
these
items
on
the
agenda,
I
was
trying
to
get
in
the
room
before
the
City
attorney
completed
his
agenda,
but
they
kept
saying
it's
not
your
time
yet
on
the
public
agenda,
they
did
not
understand
so
I
think
it's
important
for
the
deputies
to
understand
if
it
should
ever
come
up
again
that
the
first
readings
are
automatic.
R
Public
hearings
and
I
do
speak
from
time
to
time
on
these
first
readings,
because
I
do
know
that
it's
an
automatic
public
hearing
and
in
terms
of
what
Miss
Hollowell
described,
there's
also
about
intra
departmental
transfers.
So
this
ordinance
is
quite
comprehensive
and
my
concern
is
how
many
of
the
employees
had
input
into
this.
R
It's
good
that
she
brought
up
the
probation
because,
as
a
employee
representative
and
union
representative,
these
are
issues
that
really
are
very
important
to
whether
or
not
employees
keep
their
jobs
and
are
paid
properly
and,
as
we
know,
an
employee
recently
lost
his
job
under
some
rather
strange
circumstances.
So
that's
why
this
is
particularly
important,
because
if
an
employee
is
willing
to
accept
a
demotion
and
stay
within
the
employ
of
a
agency
or
government
is
important.
So
this
is
just
not
some
cleanup
thing.
R
I
do
have
a
rule,
never
do
for
people
what
they
can
do
for
themselves
and
I
think
employees
have
to
start
standing
up
for
themselves,
whether
they're
in
public
safety
or
in
other
departments,
because
these
ordinances
that
come
before
this
body
that
are
voted
and
go
into
Force
people
should
know
that
it
impacts
their
lives.
But
one
question:
how
long
is
the
probationary
period?
R
Ms
Hallowell
didn't
mention
that
and
I
would
appreciate,
knowing
that,
since
she
sounded
like
this
was
something
kind
of
new
because
of
employees
can't
do
anything
during
their
probationary
period,
which
is
customary
it's
customary
but
I
just
like
to
know
how
long
our
employees
on
probation
and
then
I'll
take
my
seat.
I.
Think
I
made
my
point:
employees
need
to
stand
up
for
themselves
on
these
type
ordinances
that
are
a
lot.
It's
a
lot
in
here:
intro
Department,
inter
Department
promotions,
demotions
transfers,
it's
a
lot
and
the
pay
plan.
R
U
Q
M
T
The
policy
affects
all
employees,
it
impacts
all
employees
with
City.
If
you
are
a
general
government,
employee
or
a
public
safety,
employee
impacts
all
employees,
but
in
terms
of
how
many
employees
transfer
how
many
employees
are
promoted,
how
many
employees
are
demoted
I
don't
have
that
information
for
you.
We
do
have
quite
a
few
promotions.
Quite
a
few
transfer
transfers
very
few
demotions,
but
I'd
have
to
get
a
number
for
you,
I'd
hate
to
guesstimate,
because
I'm
not
sure.
M
T
M
One
other
question
that
I
have
another
question
that
I
have.
Would
you
explain
again
the
moving
an
employee
to
step
one
on
the
pay
scale?
Go
through
that
process
again,
if
you
would
a
person
who
is
promoted,
transferred
whatever.
T
M
T
The
way
the
pay
plan
will
work
the
way
the
pay
scale
works
again.
If,
when
you
transfer
you're
going
to
advance
six
steps
in
your
current
grade,
then
you're
slotted
in
your
new
grade
at
the
nearest
paid
at
the
nearest
step.
Whatever
that
pay,
is
you
slide
it
there
in
your
new
grade
in
your
new
Department?
T
M
Now,
let
me
ask
you
this
suppose:
I'm
a
an
employee
of
the
Columbus
Police,
Department
and
I,
moved
to
the
Sheriff's
Department.
Do
I
quit
my
job
in
the
police
department
and
then
have
to
be
rehired
by
the
sheriff,
or
is
that
considered
a
transfer
that.
T
No
is
based
on
the
transfer
policy
again,
if
you're
in
the
police
department
and
you
transfer
to
the
Sheriff's
Department
and
the
pay
grade
that
you're
transferring
to
is
a
higher
pay
grade.
Then
that
person
would
automatically
move
out
six
steps
in
their
current
grade
and
then
they're
slotted
in
the
new
position
that
they're
going
to,
if
that
same
police
officer,
transfers
from
the
police
department
to
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
it
is
of
the
same
grade
or
is
a
lower
grade
than
they
are.
M
So
do
I
understand
this
correctly,
that
there
are
two
issues
here,
whether
or
not
the
pay
excuse
me,
the
pay
is
higher
or
lower
depend
that
will
make
a
difference
in
where
you
go
in
on
the
the
schedule.
Yes,.
T
O
O
So
give
us
compare,
compare
what's
happening
now
to
what
is
happening
if
this
ordinance
is
accepted.
What
how
answer
counselor,
Thomas's
questions
based
on
now
say
this
did
not
get
passed
so
answer
those
questions
with
what
is
currently
happening.
Please
well.
T
A
L
I'm
going
to
ask
her
to
we've
got
a
booklet
if
I
don't
know.
If
you
can
see
it,
though
holy
smokes
well
and
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
trying
to
get
you
to
see
this
entire
thing
is
one
line:
okay,
just
to
show
if,
in
other
words,
what
she
said.
If
you
go
from
a
114
to
a
116,
you
would
go
out
six
steps
and
then
you
would
find
your
place
in
the
116
at
that
step.
L
T
Sure,
if,
if,
for
example,
the
average
employee
starts
out
at
step
one
and
they
are
going
to
another
department
at
a
higher
grade,
they
start
at
that
step.
One.
You
count
out
six
steps
and
that's
going
to
be
their
new
pay.
You
slide
them
in
their
new
grade
in
their
new
position,
that's
going
to
be
their
new
pay.
O
T
That's
part
of
why
this
audience
is
being
brought
forward
because
it's
in
a
flux
right
now
we
were
able
to
rely
when
we
had
the
UGA
pay
plan.
There
were
we
had
the
promotions,
the
motions
and
transfer
ordinance
there
and
we
were
able
to
rely
on
those
to
transfer
employees
from
one
Department
to
another,
but
because
those
ordinances
no
longer
exist,
the
promotions
and
the
Motions
it
through
the
transfer
ordinance
off
as
well.
That's
why
this
ordinance
bid
is
being
brought
forth
now,
typically,
even
in
the
UGA
pay
plan.
T
What
I'm
describing
would
happen
in
a
similar
fashion,
with
the
exception
of
allowing
folks
to
move
out
on
the
pay
scale
further
based
on
their
years
of
service,
because,
even
though
you
are
an
employee
in
the
police
department-
and
let's
say
you
go
to
the
Sheriff's
Department,
we
call
it
a
inter-departmental
transfer,
but
for
all
intensive
purposes.
When
that
person
goes
over
to
the
Sheriff's
Office,
they
are
new
hire
over
there
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
and
if
you
are
a
new
hire,
you
start
at
step
one.
T
You
start
at
the
entry
level
of
the
page.
So
that's
basically
what
this
is
saying.
You
start
at
the
new
at
the
entry
level
of
the
pay,
with
the
exception,
though,
because
you
have
years
of
service
and
it's
recognized
that
you
have
years
of
service.
So
you
get
credit
for
your
years
of
service
that
so
it's
trying
to
make
up
for
you're
not
being
treated
like
a
new
employee
by
giving
you
credit
for
years
of
service.
F
Wanted
to
thank
Miss
Teresa
element.
She
has
a
lot
of
wisdom.
It
is
a
lot
in
this
in
this
ordinance
it's
alive
and
right
now,
I
make
a
motion
to
postpone
indefinitely.
T
Well,
it
leaves
us
in
a
flux,
it
leaves
us
without
good
direction
in
terms
of
how
to
transfer
an
employee
from
one
Department
to
another.
It
leaves
us
in
a
flux
without
being
able
to
rely
on
an
ordinance
that
tells
us.
This
is
how
you
do
a
promotion.
This
is
how
it
works.
We
know
how
promotion
works.
We
know
how
the
motion
works,
but
we
don't
have
very
clear
guidance
on
how
transfer
works.
F
C
M
C
M
Mr
Mayor
Miss
councilor
Tucker's
motion
is
to
postpone
indefinitely
I.
I
still
have
a
lot
of
questions
that
I
would
like
to
talk
to
Miss
hallwell
about
how
all
of
this
is
going
to
work.
W
M
Fairly
knowledgeable
about
how
salary
schedules,
work
and
so
forth,
but
I'd
like
for
I,
would
like
for
us
to
postpone
this
until
some
of
these
questions
can
be
answered.
I
want
us
to
do
this
right.
The
first
time
and
I
I
as
it
currently
is
I
would
vote
no
against
this
Pro
against
this
resolution,
just
because
there
are
some
issues
that
I
would
like
to
to
have
clarified.
So
I
would
encourage
my
fellow
counselors
to
support
the
motion
to
postpone
until
we
can
have
some
more
conversation
about
this.
M
This
is
a
very
important
issue
for
our
employees
and
I
know
that
they
would
prefer
that
we
had
gotten
this
settled.
You
know
three
years
ago,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
it
right
and
so
I
I
would
support
councilor
Tucker's
motion
to
postpone
until
we
can
have
some
more
information.
C
C
F
Y
L
C
L
The
orders
and
and
in
the
meantime,
we'll
try
and
figure
out
how,
if
someone
desires
to
transfer
to
Maura,
we
can
either
put
it
on
hold
or
figure
out
how
to
transfer
them
and
I'll.
L
L
F
F
F
We
can
we'll
let
the
City
attorney
know
when
we
wanted
to
put
it
back
on
the
senior
attorneys
agenda.
M
I
I,
don't
think
anybody
is
saying
it
shouldn't
move
forward.
What
I
think
we
are
saying
is:
you
may
have
been
working
on
this
for
several
months,
but
this
is
two
weeks
ago
was
the
first
time
we
had
heard
anything
about
this
and
I
don't
want
to
have
our
specific
questions
submitted
to
the
city
manager
or
the
attorney
and
have
them
answer
me.
I
want
them
to
answer
my
questions
so
that
my
colleagues
will
know
what
the
answers
are
and
so
that
I
don't
know
what
the
answers
to
councilor
Tucker's
questions
are
and
so
forth.
M
M
What's
in
the
in
the
proposed
policy,
it
may
be
that
I
call
you
and
ask
you
what
that
means,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
some
kind
of
a
conversation
around
the
table
so
that
everybody's
clear,
on
what
what
happens
and
as
I
said,
I
know
that
our
employees
want
us
to
do
it
quickly,
but
they
also
want
us
to
do
it
correctly,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
and
by
postponing
it
indefinitely
does
not
mean
it'll
never
come
back.
It
means
it'll,
come
back
whenever
it's
brought
back
by
by
the
council.
C
W
Mr
city
manager
I
want
to
have
a
little
conversation
with
you.
You
know
it
isn't
that
simple
that
it
just
seems
like
it's
just
a
little
confusing
to
a
few
or
a
lot
of
us
or
we
used
to
have
the
old
plate
pay
plan.
Yeah
you
use.
The
word,
did
you
use
the
word
flux
caught
in
the
flunks?
Is
that
the
word
you
use?
W
Okay,
we've
changed
to
a
new
pay
plan.
We
used
to
have
an
old
style
of
how
we
played
it
paid.
Is
it
that
simple
that
the
policy
we're
dealing
with
now
and
the
change
did
not
match
up
to
the
old
old
pay
plan?
Now
we're
on
a
new
pay
plan
that
we've
adopted
and
the
policy
you're
preventing
or
presenting
to
us
is
trying
to
make
changes
with
the
new
pay
to
match
up
with
a
new
pay
plan.
That's
on
the
table.
Is
it?
W
And
then
you
and
I
had
the
conversation
last
meeting
about
constitutional
officers,
which
we
I
think
we
all
agree
that
they
still
regardless
they
still
make
decisions
within
their
budget,
whether
the
budget's
amended
or
not,
but
they
still
make
decisions.
Therefore,
some
of
this
stuff
did
not
really
apply,
even
though
it
quote,
it
was
still
we're.
Looking
at
changing
a
government
policy,
it
I
mean.
Is
it
that
simple
or
you
know
and
I'm
sure
those
are
the
questions
that
people
are
asking?
But
you
know
that's
what's
going
through
my
mind
right
now,
yeah.
L
Well,
I
I
believe
it's
that
simple,
but
the
HR
Director
worked
on
this
with
our
legal
department
and
when
they
were
able
to
I
guess
you
went.
Did
you
want
to.
L
Point
I'll,
let
you
do
that,
but
I
just
want
to.
Let
them
know
that
you
worked
with
the
legal
department,
a
legal
department.
You
agreed
on
the
document.
Then
you
sent
it
to
all
of
the
department,
heads
and
elected
officials,
and
then
you
got
feedback
from
them
and
and
after
you,
clear
up
any
questions
with
them
is
when
you
brought
it
forward,
and
so
that's
where
we
are
and
and
you
can
respond
to,
is
it
as
simple
as
transporting
it
from
what
we
had
in
the
old
plan
to
the
new.
A
T
L
T
T
Making
it
more
clear
is
trying
to
make
it
more
clear,
because,
unfortunately,
it
may
be
debatable
in
the
UGA
pay
plan.
There
may
have
been
some
discrepancy,
but
it
in
terms
of
how
a
transfer
would
work,
but
this
only
makes
it
more
clear
of
how
a
transfer
Works
how
it
should
work,
how
it
would
have
even
worked
in
the
UGA
pay
plan
when
we
had
it,
it
just
makes
it
more
clear
and
it
makes
it
advantageous
to
the
employees.
This
is
absolutely
not.
W
V
A
L
What
we
need
to
do
is
just
answer,
questions
and
and
communicate
how
it's
better,
I
think
than
the
old
plan
and,
like
you
said
me,
if
we
get
the
questions,
it
wasn't
the
intent
to
respond
directly
back
to
counselors.
But
when
we
come
we'll
say
Hey,
you
know
here's
question
one.
We
don't
even
have
to
say
which
Council.
But
you
know
and
and
then
answer
that
question
and
then
have
the
discussion
and
then
try
and
at
least
show
how
it's
better
than
what
we
had.
L
C
W
No
fault
of
anybody,
but
it
does
seem
it
does
come
across
as
complicated
and
it's
just
not
connecting
the
dots.
But
what
I
hear
you
saying
is
that,
because
of
this
new
pay
plan,
we're
having
to
change
things
a
little
bit
to
get
out
of
the
flux?
It's
not
some
major
change.
All
of
a
sudden
we're
putting
on
the
table.
That's
right
to
change
a
policy
in
government.
That's
going
to
affect
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
employees
right
and.
W
A
C
Well
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
important.
It
is
significantly
important
too.
The
council
has
a
good
understanding
of
what
this
does,
because
when
those
people
watch
and
ask
them,
they
need
to
be
able
to
articulate
so
I
think
the
questions
are
a
good
thing
and
we'll
we'll
expedite
that
and
then
Council
will
have
an
opportunity.
Any
individual
counselor
can
bring
it
back
on
the
city.
Attorney's
agenda,
Mr,
Mayor,
Pro,
Tem,.
C
X
T
X
Mean
it's
it's
really
really
to
the
employees.
I
mean
it's
overwhelming
to
me
how
much
how
far
they
can
go
out
on
the
pay
plan.
I
mean
this.
This
is
a
good
deal
for
them.
I
I'm,
I'm,
I'd,
like
to
get
the
questions
answered,
but
I
I'm,
delayed
indefinitely
is
just
not
to
me
to
lay
it
delay
it
30
days.
I
mean
it
it
just.
It
definitely
means
forever.
C
O
T
One
of
the
things
I
told
Council
when
we
adopted
the
new
pay
plan.
I
said
we
are
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
include
as
many
of
the
related
related
ordinances
to
the
pay
plan,
we're
going
to
include
them
as
many
as
we
can
in
here
to
get
this
moving,
but
I
also
put
forth
that
there
were
other
related
ordinances
that
we
would
be
bringing
back
to
council
that
these
are
cleanup
ordinances
that
were
a
part
of
the
old
pay
plan
that
we
would
need
to
bring
back
and
and
I
will
tell
you.
T
There
are
at
least
one
more
that
I've
been
working
on
to.
That
was
a
part
of
the
old
pay
plan.
It
needs
to
be
updated
as
well,
because
it
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
go
with
this
new
pay
plan
so
as
to
the
best
of
my
ability,
I
am
cleaning
them
up
as
quickly
as
I,
possibly
can
and
I'm
bringing
them
hoping
I'm
next
to
the
last
one,
but
I'll
need
to
bring
back,
but
the
pay
plan
in
and
of
itself.
T
The
adoption
of
the
pay
plan
was
truly
a
heavy
lift
for
us
just
to
try
to
get
the
pay
plan
itself
approved
by
Council
and
then
the
other
related
ordinances
that
go
with
it.
We
put
as
many
of
those
as
we
could
a
lot
of
them
had
to
do.
If
you,
you
recall
the
promotion
and
emotions
ordinance,
we
had
a
conversation
about
that.
The
education
incentive.
T
We
had
a
conversation
about
that
and
several
other
things
that
we've
had
conversations
about,
that
we've
tried
to
move
forward
and
make
sure
that
they
went
along
with
this
pay
plan.
We
were
not
able
to
get
100
of
those
all
in
one
ordinance.
At
the
same
time,
it
was
just
too
many
of
things
going
on
trying
to
get
the
pay
plan
adopted,
so
we
were
not
able
to
one
percent
get
all
of
those
in
so
I
apologize
that
I'm
bringing
these
additional
ones,
but
I'm,
hoping
that
we
was
Council,
approves
this
transfer.
T
One
I
know
that
there's
at
least
one
other
one
that
I
need
to
bring
and
and
I'll
bring
that
one,
and
hopefully
it
will
not
be
controversial
and
you'll
be
able
to
and
I'll
try
to
make
sure
that
it's
clear
as
possible
so
that
we
all
understand
what
I'm,
praying
and
Council
will
approve
it,
but
that
that's
that's
where
we
are
with
it.
I
wasn't
not
able
to
do
it
all
at
the
time
that
the
pay
plan
was
adopted.
O
Okay,
thank
you.
Mr
Faye,.
A
O
Q
You
yeah
only
if
there
was
something
in
direct
conflict
with
the
new
pay
plan
that
would
have
been
canceled
out,
but
these
things
still
left
to
be
addressed
to
things
like
the
inner
Department
transfers,
because
the
pay
plan
was
silent
on
that
and
that's
what
she's
trying
to
harmonize
the
old
provisions
of
the
code
dealing
with
transfers,
making
it
aligned
with
the
new
pay
plan.
Q
A
Q
A
M
C
A
Q
AA
C
A
C
L
C
L
F
Wanted
to
add
something
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
the
policy
to
address
when
you
say
department,
but
you
also
include
office.
That
means
you're,
including
our
constitutional
officers,
and
it
could
possibly
set
us
up
for
a
lawsuit
or
some
other
issues,
and
we
know
that
our
constitutional
officers
are
the
clerk
of
superior
court
at
probate,
judge
the
sheriff
the
office
of
sheriff
and
the
tax
commissioner,
and
that's
one
that's
one
of
the
reasons.
Why?
F
Because
we
can't
include
them
when
we're
talking
about
transfer,
we
really
need
to
sit
down
and
have
the
sheriff
involved
and
I
feel
like
the
tax
commissioner
and
and
even
all
the
Constitutional
officers.
They
need
to
be
involved
and
we
really
need
to
take
what
they
say
at
face
value
and
listen
to
them.
F
Listen
to
them
in
reference
to
this
policy,
because
it
not
only
affects
our
general
government,
but
it
also
affects
Public,
Safety
and
I
know
that
we
talked
to
the
sheriff
and
we
kept
saying
constitutional
officer,
but
it
was
the
sheriff
that
was
spoken
to,
and
he
had
some
concerns
about
this,
and
we
need
to
listen
to
the
sheriff.
L
Miss
mayor
I,
may
yes,
so
just
a
couple
of
points
in,
of
course
it
wasn't
haphazardly
put
together
just
to
be
clear
and
our
professional
HR
Director
got
with
the
legal
department
and
I
know:
Lucy
worked
on
it
with
HR.
For
some
time
now,
I
mean
that's
a
it's
a
legal
question
for
the
City
attorney,
because
the
sheriff
and
constitutional
officers
employ
their
employees
are
in
the
pension
plan.
They're.
L
But
the
thing
that
I
and
so
I'll
leave
that
there
but
I
I
didn't
want
to
say
for
employees
who
are
listening
and
and
I
hope
they
heard
the
City
attorney
and
others
when
they
said
the
transfer
policy
and
so
forth.
L
The
HR,
Director
and
the
attorney's
office
believe
it's
it's
better
than
what
we
have
had
under
the
UGA
pay
plan
and
and
so
I
want
them
to
not
think
that
it's
not
better.
But
it's
better
and
I
know.
Council
members
will
fix
it.
But
in
the
meantime
you
know
we
don't
want
I,
don't
want
I,
don't
think
you
want
to
hold
up
any
employee
transferring
from
one
Department
to
another,
and
so
we
can
let
them
transfer
and
and
and
place
them.
L
F
M
F
C
All
right,
so
we
have
tabled
it
indefinitely
and
Council
if
you
would
over
the
next
few
days,
if
you
think
of
any
questions,
and
really
you
can
do
it,
you
know,
as
often
as
you
want,
but
please
forward
them
and
to
the
city
manager's
office
and
we'll
get
we'll
bring
them
back
and
we'll
discuss
them
all,
make
sure
transparently.
We're
letting
folks
know
what
the
answers.
Those
questions
are.
C
I'm.
Sorry,
madam
clerk.
AB
AB
C
Q
C
Q
Q
Q
Q
The
next
property
is
57
69
57,
47,
Veterans,
Parkway
B
Street
Investments
wants
to
go
from
Hayward
commercial
to
General
commercial,
and
this
is,
for
you
know
what
the
purpose
was:
Mr
Renfro
to
use.
They.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Any
questions
around
the
table,
all
right.
Anybody
in
the
audience
for
or
against
raise
your
hand
we'll
bring
this
back
on
April
25th
at
5
30.
for
a
vote.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
then
we've
got
Columbus
storage
llc
at
5436,
Forest
Road,
going
to
from
neighborhood
commercial
to
General
commercial.
It's
storage
use,
I
sing.
That's.
Q
A
Q
Any
other
people
want
to
be
heard
on
that
bring
that
back
to
our
vote.
April,
25th,
okay,
thank
you,
Mr
Emperor,
Mr
Johnson.
That
concludes
the
zoning
hearings.
We've
got
some
special
exceptions
if
you'll
stand
by
the
last
ordinance
on
first
reading,
mayor
would
extend
the
business
and
occupation
tax
licensing
deadline,
bye
until
May
1st
at
4
30
pm.
Q
A
Q
Q
M
Q
AC
What's
the
criteria
for
the
Forgiveness
do
we
know?
Do
we
know
what
the
criteria
is
for
forgiveness,
if
that's
just
financial
hardship
or
if
that's
it's,.
C
L
L
And
that's
a
fact,
so
we
want
those
listening
to
really
take
advantage
of
the
moment,
because
we
we
could
have
a
lien
for
five
thousand
dollars
in
penalty
in
the
interest
because
it's
been
there
could
be
eight
thousand
ten
thousand
dollars
so
for
a
total
of
fifteen
thousand.
And
so
you
get
to
come
and
get
the
settle
for
five
thousand.
So
if
you're
out
there
and
you're
listening-
and
you
know
that
you're
in
the
situation
now
it's
a
tan.
AD
AD
Q
All
right
take
advantage
of
that
if
you're
listening
out
there
item
11
mayor
okay,.
C
Right
there
was
a
motion,
a
second
any
other
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Q
Okay,
thank
you
item.
11
is
the
resolution
for
the
hospital
authority
of
Columbus
Georgia
to
refinance
some
bonded
debt?
Is
anybody
here
this
morning,
Hospital
Authority.
Q
The
only
other
thing
we've
got
mayor's
a
requests
for
the
executive
session
on
real
estate
acquisition
and
Disposal
and
pin
pending
or
potential
litigation
time
permitting.
That's
all
we've
got
counselor
Tucker.
F
City
attorney
Mississippi
attorney
I
had
a
question
in
reference
to
semi
trucks,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
have
an
ordinance
that
talks
about
semi-trucks
parking
I
know
in
commercial
areas,
it's
put
on
the
commercial
property
owner
in
reference
to
semi-truck
parking,
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
having
throughout
the
city,
because
it's
not
enough
semi-truck
parking
is
you're.
F
Seeing
individuals
parking
in
I'm,
gonna,
say
the
old
Walmart
on
Buena
Vista
Road
is
becoming
a
nuisance
now,
because
the
trucks
are
parking
up
to
the
actual
business
that
that
are
still
there
and
I.
Think
I
think
it's
they're
working
on
doing
a
storage
unit
or
something
in
that
old
Walmart.
But
it's
not
just
that
building
it's
places
near
Lamb's,
funeral
home
and
throughout
Columbus
is.
Is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
as
a
council?
Or
do
we
have
any
ordinance
like
on
the
books?
There.
Q
Are
several
some
deal
with
parking
or
trailers
and
non-commercial
areas
and
others
who's
owning
uses?
If
it's
not
a
proper
zoning
use,
they
can
be
cited
by
Mr
Pruitt
and
his
department,
so
well.
I
think
you
would
need
to
let
the
city
manager
know
the
exact
address
and
they
can
look
into
it.
Q
Q
S
F
The
old
Walmart
on
Buena
Vista
Road,
it's
it's
becoming
it's
becoming
a
problem.
I
know
I,
know
it's
councilor,
Barnes
District,
but
right
across
the
street
that
old,
oh,
my
gosh,
post
office,
they're
they're,
doing
the
same
thing
yeah
on
my
side,
so
on
one
side
of
the
street,
their
pop
them
pops
district
and
then
on
my
side.
So,
but
we
we
haven't
we're
having
some
serious
issues
with
semi-truck
parking.
Well,.
C
F
But
Terence
I
was
gonna,
say
Terrence
Terence,
yeah
I
wish
I
had
some
money
to
actually
build
one
of
those
yeah.
AE
AE
F
He
actually
took
some
aerial,
video
of
it
and
it's
it's
it's
real
bad
in
in
that
area,
so
I'm.
AF
A
C
AF
Barnes
just
a
comment
really
across
the
street,
where
the
post
office
is
at
Council
of
Tucker's
district
and
also
up
there
on
Forest
Road
right
across
from
the
Piggly
Wiggly.
It's
not
only
that
I
mean,
but
it's
been
insisted
and
we've
had.
Our
special
enforcement
has
has
gone
right,
and
so
we
do
need
to
look
into
that
because
there
it's
just
wholesale
parking
and
right
where
the
the
auto
parts
places
that
people
have
complained
of
not
only
the
trucks
but
they're
dumping
there.
C
Right
well,
we'll
move
into
the
public
agenda
a
reminder
of
the
public
agenda.
You've
got
five
minutes
and
we're
pretty
strict.
On
that
time.
You
will
have
an
opportunity
if
you're
not
come,
haven't
completed
your
thoughts.
You
can
come
back
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
for
an
additional
three
minutes,
but
you'll
start
with
your
name
and
your
address.
First
individual
is
Mr
Ralph
Carrizo
regarding
our
request
to
exempt
Walden
Pond
development
from
the
requirement
to
install
sidewalks
on
Emerson
way
in
Thoreau
Court.
U
Name
is
Ralph
Caruso
and
I
live
at
5733
Green
Island
Drive
in
Columbus
Georgia
I'm
coming
here
before
Council
I
was
advised
by
the
city
manager's
office.
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
the
right
place,
because
I
guess
I'm
asking
for
an
exemption
but
as
I
read
the
rules
and
regulations,
I
am
exempt
from
requiring
Walden
Pond
to
have
sidewalks.
U
Let
me
let
me
just
go
briefly
to
the
history
me
and
my
wife
took
our
retirement
money
and
decided
to
build
a
subdivision.
We
decided
to
build
a
nice
subdivision
and
turn
it
over
to
the
city
and
make
some
residential
homes
for
everybody
to
live
there
and
when
I
do
that,
I
provide
jobs
for
everybody
and
I
turn
over
Revenue
to
the
city,
and
these
are
not
small
homes.
These
homes
are
in
excessive
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
U
I
didn't
have
the
funds
to
do
all
the
do
the
entire
subdivision,
so
I
did
it
in
two
phases:
phase
one
was
completed
almost
four
years
ago
and
that
it
was
inspected.
I
turned
it
over
to
the
city.
The
property
was
deeded
and
I
had
to
get
a
bond,
a
maintenance
Bond
and
a
repair
Bond.
So
my
responsibility
at
that
point
I
assumed,
was
to
do
the
repairs
as
needed
on
the
roads,
and
then
that
was
it
phase.
Two
was
completed
in
the
summer
of
22..
U
During
the
construction
of
the
subdivision,
I
met
with
Miss
Newman
and
her
assistant
Christy
and
went
over
the
sidewalk
requirements.
County
Line
Road
does
not
have
any
curb
and
gutter
on
it.
Okay
and
I
also
discussed
the
situation
that
those
were
one
acre
lots.
There
was
no
other
subdivision
in
that
area
that
had
one
acre
lots
that
required
sidewalks
so
and
here's
where
the
disagreement
comes
in
is
they
told
me
that
everything
was
fine?
I
didn't
need
sidewalks,
okay,
so
so
I
went
along
about
my
business
thinking
that
I
didn't
need.
U
Sidewalks
I
thought
we
had
an
agreement:
Gentleman's,
Agreement,
okay,
there's
a
weekly
inspection,
that's
performed
their
lead
inspector
Jesse
Gamble,
starting
back
in
2019,
documented
that
I
didn't
need
cyclops.
U
U
So
there's
where
the
dispute
is
Mr
Kennedy
comes
out
and
they
continue
to
say
I'm
going
to
shut
you
down,
I'm
going
to
shut
you
down
and
I
have
an
employee
who
he
went
up
to
the
employee
and
said:
it'd
be
a
shame.
You
guys
got
shut
down
and
I.
Consider
that
a
strong
arm
approach,
I'm
out
there
trying
to
do
a
business
I'm
not
out
there
to
get
strong
armed
into
somebody's
whims
or
ways
to
determine
what
they
want
to
do,
and
so
I
went
and
I
looked
up
the
code.
U
What
the
Udo,
okay!
They
referred
me
to
the
Udo
in
every
aspect:
I
meet
the
requirements,
a
Udo
of
not
needing
a
sidewalk;
okay,
no
curbing
gutters,
as
I
said:
County
Line
Road.
There
are
no
curb
and
gutters
out
there.
So
don't
need
a
sidewalk.
As
stated
in
Udo
large
Lots.
All
of
my
Lots
require
septic
tanks
in
our
larger
than
one
acre.
You
have
to
have
one
acre
to
get
a
septic
tank
approval.
So
I
got
that
now.
The.
C
U
In
America,
one
second
Mr
parish
is
here
he's
a
builder.
C
X
Cruiser
I
appreciate
you
being
here
today:
Mr
parish
and
I
rode
the
area
and
looked
at
it
and
and
I
tend
to
agree
with
you.
It
does
appear
to
me
as
a
layperson
not
to
not
to
the
topography
does
is
not
conducive
to
sidewalks.
In
my
opinion,
what
I
have
just
been
told
this
morning
is
some
of
the
neighbors
that
live
there
currently
would
like
to
have
a
meeting
to
talk
about.
Sidewalks
have
you
talked
with
any
of
the
neighbors
there
I.
U
Sir,
a
lot
of
them
put
in
some
nice
foliage
in
grass
and
I,
don't
know
that
they
want
that
tore
up
and
put
sidewalks
in
there
and
we're
only
putting
it
in
one
side
of
it.
Other
I
got
two
cul-de-sacs
and
that
they're
only
requiring
it
on
one
side
of
the
cult.
It's
one
side
of
the
street,
so
one
side
doesn't
get
it
and
one
side
does
get
it.
X
X
AH
Just
want
to
clarify
a
few
statements:
the
plans
were
approved
with
sidewalks.
They
didn't
meet
the
minimum
requirements
for
an
exemption
as
outlined
in
the
Udo.
There
are
lot
Frontage
when
they
were
doing
their
calculations
for
the
lot
Frontage.
They
used
Frontage
on
County,
Line
Road
and
he
is
correct.
Sidewalks
are
not
required
on
County
Line
Road
because
of
the
classification
of
the
road
and
because
of
the
it
doesn't
have
carbon
gutter.
So
you
wouldn't
want
people
walking
on
that
road
on
sidewalk.
AH
So
with
that
their
average
Frontage
does
not
meet
the
200
foot
requirement
for
exemption.
We
have
had
some
of
the
neighbors
that
are
out
there
currently
living
out.
There
call
us
in
the
past
and
asked
about
sidewalks,
and
we
told
them
that
it
was
required
and
that's
part
of
the
dispute.
Typically,
the
sidewalks
aren't
put
in
until
the
construction
of
the
houses,
because,
if
you
go
in
and
put
them
in
as
part
of
the
original
construction
of
the
streets,
you
don't
know
where
the
driveways
are
going.
AH
You
don't
know
about
material
deliveries
and
they
get
damaged
during
the
construction
of
the
houses.
So
that's
why
they
haven't
gone
in
today
and
part
of
the
inspector's
concerned
is
with
them
finishing
out
some
of
the
Lots.
They
have
not
met
the
requirement
of
the
plan
approval
and
the
Udo
requirement
for
the
sidelines.
C
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you,
ma'am
Mr
Cruiser!
You
can
come
back,
sir.
At
the
end
of
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
though
I'm
sorry
you,
we
can't
have
you
I
apologize
on
the
public
agenda.
It's
five
minutes.
I
have
to
keep
the
same
time
for
everybody,
I
apologize.
You
do
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Yes,
sir,
all
right!
Thank
you.
C
All
right
next
is
Mr
Marvin
Broadwater
senior
regarding
the
severance
offer
to
the
police
chief.
Y
Marvin
broad
with
a
senior
reside
at
3004,
Slippery,
Rock
Court,
and
before
we
start,
he
I
think
he'd
exited
the
room
he's
still
in
the
room.
I
just
want
to
thank
councilman
Gary
Allen.
Sometimes
you
have
to
stand
by
yourself
and
I
did
not
miss
that
boat
that
how
he
voted.
Thank
him
for
that
good
morning,
Mr
Mayor
city,
council,
members,
Mississippi
manager,
Mississippi
attorney
staff
and
citizens
of
Muskogee
County.
Y
Y
We
should
at
least
know
the
names
that
ensured
the
city
push
our
former
police
chief
out
of
office.
Crime
will
continue
to
directly
and
in
or
indirectly
affect
every
citizen
in
the
city.
I
felt
a
deep
sense
of
loss,
as
former
Chief
police
basically
had
no
choice
in
accepting
the
servants
package,
but
I
do
understand.
No
one
wants
to
work
in
a
hostile
environment
and
every
man
wants
to
be
a
provider
for
his
family
as
I
walk
through
the
apartment
homes
of
ee
Farley.
Last
Saturday
passing
out
groceries
in
the
Easter
baskets
to
children.
Y
I
had
a
conversation
with
a
young
man
who
appeared
to
be
around
the
age
of
20..
I
asked
him
about
voting.
He
stated
and
I
quote
if
they
can
put
our
chief
out.
What
does
it
matter
for
me
to
vote?
Unquote
I.
Ask
that
we
have
a
sense
of
transparency
when
it
comes
to
the
business
of
the
city.
I
asked
this
Council
to
not
hide
behind
the
charter.
Y
If
there
is
a
consensus
taken,
an
executive
session
at
least
have
the
courage
to
take
that
vote
and
not
use
the
mayor's
positions
to
do
the
Dirty
Work
I.
Ask
that
you
not
make
the
situation
worse
by
hiring
someone
from
Kansas
or
California.
You
have
an
assistant
chief
that
should
be
promoted
to
Chief.
You
already
know
who
I'm
referring
to
and
that's
assistant
chief
Joyce
Fitzpatrick,
while
it's
true
I,
have
never
worn
a
uniform
of
a
law
enforcement
officer
and
to
my
knowledge,
I
believe
none
of
you
have
either.
Y
Y
It
is
spare
time
for
this
Council
to
bring
this
city
back
together,
rather
than
separating
us
even
more
by
hiring
an
outsider.
The
key
to
reducing
crime
is
what
the
former
Chief
stated
to
you
in
his
strategic
plan,
as
well
as
the
first
statement
in
the
Justice
Hughes
executive
summary
report,
both
stated
the
need
for
more
officers.
Y
That
means
money
in
the
form
of
pay
raises.
You
can't
simply
table
this
discussion,
a
run
from
it.
Our
next
police
chief
will
inherit
the
same
issues
as
a
former
Chief.
Let's
find
the
money
again.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
willingness
to
make
Columbus
the
best
city.
It
can
be
God
bless.
You
have
a
blessed
day.
C
All
right
next
is
Ms
montrett
McLendon,
representing
affluence
Family
Services
Inc
regarding
homicide
concerns.
C
V
V
I
am
currently
in
a
five-week
course
with
the
pastor's
Police
Academy
I
applied
for
this
course
to
get
some
understanding
of
our
police
and
investigative
functions,
I
also
applied,
so
that
I
can
learn
what
capabilities
and
deficits
I
homicide
investigators
have
February.
14Th
of
this
year,
I
met
with
the
captain
over
the
homicide
department.
V
V
I
gave
the
detectives
my
son
password
to
his
cell
phone.
His
email
and
his
social
media
pages
I
gave
them
everything
they
asked
for
and
did
everything
they
instructed
me
to
do
not
knowing
that
they
had
interviewed
my
son
killer
and
released
him
on
his
word.
Without
validating
his
story,
they
did
not
check
his
cell
phone
records,
they
did
not
check
anything
and
they
let
him
go
off
of
stand.
V
V
The
detector
didn't
have
no
means
to
investigate
my
son
case
and
it
was
recorded.
You
see
the
young
man
gutting,
my
son
down
I,
had
to
go
to
the
FBI
I
had
to
contact
Premier
forensics
I
had
to
go
to
outside
agencies
for
help.
They
was
able
to
see
that
the
boy
was
left-handed.
He
shot
my
son
in
the
back
at
close
range,
but
the
detectives
I
can't
what
what
I
get
from
the
outside
agency
I
can't
take
it
to
the
detective
they
have
to
do
it.
V
V
Well,
he
got
killed,
he
died,
the
robber
is
the
instant
it's
a
detective
witness
and
he's
free.
The
boy
who
killed
my
son
is
free
I'm,
not
a
vigilante.
My
son
is
not
in
the
gang
nobody's.
Gonna
go
kill
them
boys
for
killing.
My
baby
I
have
to
depend
on
y'all
and
I.
Just
I
just
wish.
I'm
2019
we
had
a
a
rally
to
bridge
the
gap
between
us
and
the
police
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
want
to
go
to
the
police
for
help.
V
V
V
C
Will
tell
you
that
I'm
so
sorry
about
you
about
your
son
and
we
are
this.
Council
works
really
hard
to
come
up
with
resources
that
are
necessary
to
allow
us
to
provide
our
police,
the
tools
they
need
and
I
appreciate
you
being
here
to
Champion
one
of
those.
So
thank
you.
Ma'am
councilor,
Tucker,
I,.
F
Just
wanted
to
just
tell
Miss
McLendon
my
sincere
condolences
that
actually
happened
in
my
district
right
over
near
Kendrick
High
School
across
the
street,
from
the
Middle
School
from
East
Columbus.
So
I
followed
that
story.
My
heart
goes
out
to
you
and
your
family.
F
It
is
tragic,
I'm
actually
meeting
tomorrow
at
Shirley
B
with
assistant,
Chief,
Debbie
Kennedy
and
some
parents
of
Sally's
little
league,
because
the
same
incident
that
occurred
with
your
son
happened
over
at
Shirley
B
on
March
26th,
where
they
they're
out
there
fighting
and
a
gun
went
off
and
you
know
we
just
keep
having
the
same
incidents
over
and
over.
But
what
I
I
do
agree
with
you.
We
do
need.
We
have
an
EMS,
you
know.
F
Command,
Center
and
I
know
stuff
costs,
but
it
is
technology
out
there
for
us
to
have,
and
hopefully
we
can
invest
in
and
I
know.
Some
things
have
been
suggested
for
us
to
use
fusive
fuses
and
we
have
put
out
so
many
cameras
but
connecting
them
and
actually
talking
and
being
able
to
see
and
helping
our
officers.
F
You
know
actually
connect
the
dots
and
make
the
arrest,
because
I
I
know
you're
hurting
I
know
you
are
and
and
like
I
said,
my
heart
goes
out
to
you
and
I
know
one
of
the
officers
I
when
I
know
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
Malone,
but
my
heart
does
go
out
to
you.
Man
and
I
appreciate
you
for
coming
up
here
so
bravely
and
eloquently
speaking
about
your
son
and
I
I.
F
C
You
thank
you
ma'am.
All
right
next
is
Mr
Timothy
veal.
Regarding
safety
in
the
community
in
the
run-down
house
in
the
neighborhood
Mr
field.
AG
Tim
interview
George
31903
to
the
Maryland
City
Council
to
the
young
lady
there
concerning
safety
ain't.
Nobody
looking
at
the
real
reason
you
had
me
and
Brian
camp
you're,
paying
that
gun
law
you
can
get
you're
gonna,
get
away
break
it
better.
I'm,
basically
concerned
about
my
neighborhood.
We
had
all
been
a
drive.
AG
AG
Is
free
y'all
jumped
out
the
fence,
good
thing
I
had
to
speak,
it
may
know
what
a
kid
we
think
the
kids
can
do
wrong
that
dog's
gonna.
Kick
me
call
the
police
told
me
to
call
the
dog
pound
called
the
dog
pound.
They
told
me
to
call
the
police
and
before
the
landlord
in
the
neighborhood,
you
got
the
come
out
and
working
they're
going
to
go
in
there
and
do
a
little
everything
he
just
stayed.
A
A
AG
Avenue
then,
just
like
a
trash
can
we
all
present
them.
Y'all
told
everybody
how
to
put
the
track
where
the
boat
going
you
put
trash
in
the
green
bag.
Green
Crack.
Can
you
just
said
out
there
for
a
month
the
track?
Man,
ain't
gonna,
pick
it
up,
that's
it
for
you
always!
You
know
you
need
to
give
these
people
some
teeth
or
something
yeah.
You
got
to
do
better.
I'll
call
last
week
for
five
days
to
oh,
you
know
for
y'all
complain
all
right.
They
straight
ain't,
nobody
call
them
back.
AG
Yet
let
me
make
it
every
day
for
y'all
ain't.
Nobody
call
me
back
here
Friday.
They
might
have
been
moving
fast
before
this.
It's
your
wasting,
making
home
clean
and
pop
up
and
leave
bending
loud
house
I.
Think
city
of
Columbus
can
do
a
liberty
belly.
It's
all
over
I
ain't
concerned
about
all
I'm
concerned
about
being
a
dry
once
of
old
Kevin
Avenue
Harbor
Avenue
that
one
concerned
about.
AG
A
AG
AG
AG
AG
C
You
Mr
is
I
heard
you
mentioned
3209
head
street.
Is
that
the
address
of
the
area
that
you
said
had
a
lot
of
problems?
I
was
trying
to
get
some
of
the
addresses
from
you,
and
then
we
could.
We
can
get
somebody
out
there
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Okay,
never
mind
it's
going
to
be
done.
R
Theresa
element:
6363
Flat,
Rock,
Road,
District,
Five
I
want
you
to
come
to
my
birthday
party,
Miss
crab,
which
would
be
it
which
would
June
25th
I'll.
Let
you
know
more
about
it.
You
can
meet
some
of
your
constituents.
R
R
R
Citizenship
know
this
and
understand
this
so
that
they
can
participate
fully
in
this
city
manager,
form
of
government
and
I
I've
been
through
a
lot
of
city
manager,
forms
of
government.
Well,
we
need
the
staff,
but
we
elected
you
to
run
the
city,
not
necessarily
the
city
manager,
to
run
the
city.
We
elected
you
to
look
out
for
the
citizens
and
that's
what
your
obligation
is.
R
R
The
way
I
will
start
it
again.
I
appreciate
it
because
the
rights
of
citizens
to
participate
is
the
topic
and
what
I
am
exercising
is
my
right
as
a
citizen
to
participate
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
lost
on
you,
Mr
Mayor.
What's.
R
Russ
going
on
right
now,
and
so
that
is
the
topic
my
right
to
come
here,
use
my
five
minutes
to
say
what
I
want
to
say
that
I
think
is
important
to
offer
guidance
to
what
has
been
absolute
Anarchy
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
starting
on
February
14th
and
I
participated
in
the
Anarchy.
It
was
purposeful
for
people
to
see
that
this
is
what
can
happen
when
people
who
are
elected
to
represent
us
lose
control,
and
that's
what's
happened
over
these
last
couple
of
months.
You
have
a
rule.
R
R
C
All
right
next
is
Miss
Arisha
Z
Lawrence,
representing
music
and
entertainment,
Council,
Mac
and
music
education
offer
via
MEC
for
the
Youth
of
Columbus,
Georgia
and
Ma
Fest.
AI
Arisha
Z
Lawrence
and
223
8th
Street
make
house
people
get
ready.
A
Fest
is
coming.
Listen
I
am
here
to
lighten
the
air,
because
when
you
think
about
everything
you
can
invest
in
a
lot,
you
can
invest
in
crime.
You
can
invest
in
police
Chiefs.
You
can
invest
in
a
whole
heap
Mr
Isaiah,
but
guess
what?
When
you
invest
in
music?
AI
That's
a
safe
space,
the
music
teacher
that
spoke
earlier,
Mrs
Ellis.
She
gave
kudos
to
her
music
and
then
you
know
mentorship
in
her
earlier
years,
and
she
said
it
was
a
sound
Factor
as
to
why
she
is
who
she
is
today.
She
requested
investment
into
public
schools
which
I
heavily
believe
in
and
Community
programming.
AI
As
for
those
kids,
which
the
schools
and
those
after
school
programs,
that's
like
their
Savior
and
I
agree
with
her
totally
I
will
add
that
when
it
comes
to
music,
we
just
want
to
keep
this
community
sustainable
and
positive,
and
music
education
does
just
that.
So
my
heart
goes
out
to
the
McClendon
family
and
the
loss
of
her
son.
AI
They
can
beat
it
out
on
a
microphone
in
a
studio,
an
instrument
or
lyrics
speak
about
it,
poetry,
things
of
that
nature,
art
and
music
is
everything
you
can
Google
a
lot
of
music
education,
facts
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
love
is
that
music
engages
the
brain
networks
and
related
with
anticipation,
attention
and
neutral
Clairvoyance
according
to
the
lever
Institute,
but
according
to
new
research,
music
training
improves
mental
acuity,
particularly
in
the
areas
of
cognitive,
verbal
and
emotional
intelligence,
and
we
can
look
at
thousands
of
studies
and
understand
that
music
helps
in
a
lot
of
things.
AI
As
music
advocates
for
music
and
arts
education,
we
see
an
opportunity
to
continue
to
always
hold
our
leaders
accountable,
which
in
that
case,
that
would
be
you.
We
just
want
you
all
to
invest
in
music
and
the
Arts
as
we
build
healthy
resilient
communities.
Of
course,
the
music
entertainment
Council.
Our
objective
is
just
to
grow
Columbus's,
ecosystem
and
supply
chain,
so
it
creates
jobs,
drives
sustainable
tourism
and
does
so
inclusively
across
all
communities
and
demographics.
Georgia
music
has
always
been
strong,
which
is
why
Mick
we
are
partnered
with
Georgia
music
partners
and
sound
diplomacy.
AI
Internationally
Meg
is
the
Columbus
affiliate
of
both
with
both
entities.
We
are
part
of
a
Statewide
and
Global
Network
myself
as
a
proud
member
of
the
recording,
Academy
Grammys
CEO
of
the
Legend
music
legend
Awards
Chief,
music
officer
of
the
music
entertainment
Council
I
would
love
for
us
to
all
make
Columbus
Georgia
a
music
Eco,
Columbus
Georgia's
music
ecosystem
stronger
than
ever
I
have
brought
some
great
friends
who
have
a
lot
of
strength
in
music
and
their
varied
hats.
We're
all
together
in
this.
This
is
not
a
me
thing.
AI
This
is
a
us
thing,
because
when
you
look
at
the
word,
music
is
m-u-s-I-c.
Us
is
right
in
the
middle
together
we
can
accomplish
this
some
things
we
can
just
sing
out
when
the
pressures
are
on
us.
You
know
think
music
when
we
don't
know
where
the
funding
is
coming
from
sing
that
song
that
cheers.
Your
heart
we'll
find
it,
but
together
we
can
do
this.
AI
So
I
appreciate
Sherman
Williams,
a
renowned
choreographer,
which
you
will
see
with
Dancing
with
the
Stars
later
this
week,
I
appreciate
Jason
Keaton,
the
president
of
Columbus
Jazz,
Society,
Mr,
Oz
Roberts,
so
many
hats
too
many
to
name
but
as
a
supporter
and
endorser
all
founding
members
of
the
music
entertainment,
Council
and
JC
Jenkins
sitting
over
in
the
first
row,
capturing
some
some
good
content
in
her
mind
like
Electric,
City,
Life
and
a
lot
of
other
hats.
So
that's
all
we
are.
Please
support
us.
C
AI
C
You
Zeke
and
I
tell
you:
Mac
is,
has
really
done
a
good
job
of
keeping
music
at
the
Forefront
of
this
community.
I
know,
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
and
I
still
owe
her
a
trip
to
Macon
and
as
well
as
some
discussion
about
the
mafest.
So
we
will,
we
will
make
that
happen.
C
All
right
next
is
Mr
Emmanuel
Rosado
regarding
to
offer
opinion
for
the
interim
chief
of
police
position.
J
Christy
and
Bill
43
Lee
Road
2077,
Phoenix,
City,
Alabama
36870.
The
reason
why
I'm
here
is
I'm
employed
with
the
Columbus
Police
Department
I've,
been
for
16
years.
J
First
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
the
officers,
concerns
the
take
the
different
reports
and
the
analysis
into
mind
when
you
had
to
make
a
decision.
No
matter
what
side
you
were
on
the
decision
to
tell
someone
that
they're
three
decades
of
service
is
no
longer
doing
any
doing
good
for
the
department
or
for
the
city.
J
That's
a
really
hard
choice
and
I'm
thankful
that
you
guys
stuck
through
ignored
the
race
baiters,
the
political
agendas
for
whatever
they
may
have
in
mind,
and
you
stood
strong
and
you
made
a
decision
that
you
believed
was
best
for
the
Department
in
the
city,
Miss
Tucker.
You
took
a
beating
on
social
media
and
for
people
to
claim
that
someone
has
to
vote
solely
based
on
race
is
asinine.
J
As
far
as
an
interim
Chief
I
know,
you
guys
are
going
back
and
forth.
You
really
don't
know
who
to
put
in
that
position.
We
do
have
capable
people
in
this
department
to
fill
in
as
an
interim
outside
interims,
take
two
three
four
months
to
figure
out
where
to
even
begin,
when
we
have
the
leadership
within
our
department
to
go
ahead
and
hit
the
ground
running
and
make
the
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
to
save
this
department
and
to
save
this
city
and
whether
they
be
Hermann
miles.
Deborah
Kennedy,
Lance,
Deaton
they're
there.
J
J
A
C
AJ
C
J
There's
an
entire
attention
of
families
that
are
being
wiped
out
either
they're
going
to
be
murdered
or
they're
going
to
be
imprisoned
for
murder,
and
we
have
to
have
someone
in
this
Police
Department
that
is
going
to
combat
the
crime
and
be
steadfast
and
approaching
that
crime,
not
community
policing.
We
have
to
have
an
aggressive,
Police
Department
to
gain
the
city's
control
back.
C
AK
AK
upon
the
investigation
they
had.
They
received
video
of
the
murders
showing
that
these
bins
assaulted
him
first
hit
him
in
his
face
and
then
shot
him
down
investigating
the
homicide
department
has
a
video
of
this
here
now
we
have
been
repeatedly
calling
the
homicide
department
inquiring
about
my
son
murder,
and
what
was
he
going
to
do
about
bringing
Justice
born?
AK
AK
AK
Then
repeatedly,
this
detective
told
me
that
well
when
we
get
them,
we're
not
going
to
charge
them
with
murder
a
person
going
to
the
store
and
shoplift
a
bag
of
potato
chips,
they
arrest
that
person
he
might
be
accused
of
taking
that
bag
of
potato
chips,
but
he
might
not
be.
He
might
might
wasn't
wrong.
He
might
have
didn't
take
him,
but
they
arrested
him.
AK
AK
AK
The
homicide
department,
the
investigation,
Officer
William,
told
me
that
he
didn't
have
the
authority,
so
I
called
Mr
Stacy
Jackson
up
the
d8
and
I
asked
Mr
Jackson
what
he
called
the
homicide
department.
What
he
called
the
gbiza
and
he
repeatedly
told
me
said:
I'm
not
going
to
call
no
gbi,
then
I
said
well.
Will
you
send
what
you
have
to
the
grand
jury?
AK
AK
C
C
L
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
First
on
my
agenda,
I've
got
approval
to
purchase
property
at
415,
melon
Street
for
95
000,
using
cdbg
funds,
and
this
would
be
a
potential
site
for
a
possible.
AC
L
Next
Miss
mayor
I've
got
Design
Services
for
overthorpe
bridge
design,
consultant
Folker
Inc
not
to
exceed
120
thousand
dollars.
X
M
AH
Yes,
ma'am,
the
bridge
is
on
a
state
route
and
it
is
currently
being
designed
by
the
state
of
Georgia
DOT,
of
course,
they're
just
going
to
plan
it's
already
about
60
percent
I
think
they're
planning
just
a
standard
concrete
bridge,
but
we
felt
like
given
its
location,
it's
an
entrance
Point
into
Columbus
into
the
state
of
Georgia
into
the
Civic
Center
South
Commons
area,
where
we
get
a
lot
of
recognition
that
we
thought
it
ought
to
be
something
special
because
a
bridge
lasts
around
100
years.
M
Okay
and
these
folks
that
were
asking
me,
I
told
them
that
I
thought
that
it
was
on
the
state
route,
but
that
we
are
working
in
cooperation
with
GDOT
on
the
whole
thing.
Yes,
ma'am,
okay,
thank
you,
and
do
you
have
any
kind
of
a
timeline
that
was
one
of
the
other
questions
is?
Is
that
bridge
going
to
be
out
of
commission
and
we
have
to
go
another
way
to
get
in
and
out
of
Columbus
no.
AH
Ma'am
right
now,
I
think
the
schedule
is
for
it
to
be
constructed
in
FY
28,
and
the
current
plan
is
to
build
it
under
traffic,
so
they
would
build
likely
half
of
it
and
use
the
other
half
for
construction
and
then
swap.
C
L
A
L
C
C
Council
crab
is
a
yes
all
right.
That's
approved,
I've
got
Georgia
traffic
yeah,
but
we
have
councilor
Davis
with
a
comment.
W
Thank
you,
mayor,
Miss
city
manager,
just
while
we're
on
this.
We
just
approved
this
matter,
but
just
trying
to
add
this
up,
it
may
be
good
that
you
come
back
at
another
time,
because
we,
you
know,
we've
we've
Georgia
Power
has
helped
us
upgrade
our
lights
throughout
the
city
and
we've
used
LEDs
and
we're
all
you
know
I
I
guess
a
mindset
is
when
you
go
to
an
LED
light.
The
cost
comes
down
considerably.
You
save
a
lot
and
I,
don't
know.
If
that's
the
case.
W
But
you
know
it
just
makes
sense
to
me,
but
I
I
don't
see
that
number
fluctuating
yeah
very
much,
so
it
might
be
good
to
have
that.
Have
that
conversation.
L
And
mayor
certainly
will
be
happy
whether
it's
doing
during
budget
deliberations
or
if
we
come
back
just
at
a
council
meeting,
but
we'll
we'll
be
happy.
Have
that
conversation?
Thank
you.
Next
I've
got
Georgia
traffic
incident
management
enhancement
task
force.
Grant
is
for.
C
Motion
to
prove
item
four:
is
there
a
second
second
motion?
Second,
any
discussion:
you
can
cue
it
you
can't
assume,
as
you
finish,
the
description.
L
Yes,
but
a
grant
as
awarded
you
know,
oftentimes
we
apply
and
we
sometimes
don't
get
these
grants,
but
we
do
make
the
effort
there's
no
matching
funds
required,
but
it
would
be
for
the
purchase
of
108
Tearaway
traffic
safety.
Vest
is
what
this
is
for,
and
it's
for
Columbus
prior
EMS
all
right
and
that's
approved
yeah
and
Council
crab.
L
And
then
I've
got
State
Criminal,
Alien
assistance
program,
Grant
application,
it's
thirty
thousand
two
hundred
ninety
five
dollars
or
as
awarded
there's
no
match
motion.
AK
C
L
Are
for
sure-
and
you
heard
number
five
Grant
with
the
U.S
Department
of
Justice
for
fiscal
year,
23.
Marathon
grant
for
First
Responders,
it's
4960.55
cents,
no
matching
required
there
for
Columbus,
try
EMS
for
an
average
of
65
rescue
incidents
each
year
that
they
have
with
and
and
they
are
requesting
funds
to
purchase
heavy
rescue
package
and
hazardous
materials
test
kits
to
Aid.
In
incident
mitigation,
then
I've
got
the
FEMA
fire
prevention,
safety
prevention
and
safety
Grant.
It's
fourteen
thousand
982
dollars
or
600
smoke
alarms.
L
We've
got
the
FY
24
Congressional
Appropriations
Grant
139
055
to
be
used
to
purchase
a
cardiac,
monitor
or
Ford
Explorer
and
medical
equipment
Aid
in
implementing
a
mobile,
Integrated,
Health,
Care,
Program
and
then
number
nine
is
Columbus
Police
Department
donation
receipts
except
thirty
thousand
cartons
of
water
box
single,
serve
cartons
of
spring
water
and
those
or
those
items,
and
then
I've.
C
Got
a
few,
it
was
not
approved.
I,
don't
believe,
we'll
need
a
vote,
for
that.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
thirty
thousand
cartons
of
water,
all
right
Motion
in
a
second
any
discussion,
cue,
that
one
let
counselors
vote.
L
That's
approved
so
then
I've
got
a
few
I've
got
four
purchases;
security,
surveillance
and
Security
Access
Equipment
annual
contract
value
at
an
estimated
210
000
per
year,
based
on
prior
usage.
C
Motion
to
prove
the
purchases
items
a
through
d
is
there
anyone
that
anyone
would
like
pulled
all
right.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
any
post.
If
you
describe.
L
Your
description
so
B
would
be
network
network
switches
and
access
point
upgrades
for
information
technology,
Sea,
Air,
gaped,
back
up
and
Recovery
Solutions
for
information
technology
and
then
D
construction
management
manager
as
general
contractor
for
fire
station
number,
five
replacement
and
the
entire
budget
for
that
project
is
five
million
dollars
and
the
recommended
contractors
cost
is
within
the
amount,
budgeted
and,
of
course,
fire
station
number.
Five
is
at
6700.
L
Lynch
Road
and
facility
is
approximately
nine
thousand
square
feet,
and
so
this
would
be
general
contractor
for
fire
station
number
five
replacement,
and
then
we
did
have
an
emergency
purchase.
A
five
utility
police
intercept
the
vehicles
for
the
police
department.
Those
are
the
purchases
and
I've
got
just
a
few
updates.
L
AL
All
right
great,
thank
you.
It's
good
to
be
here
with
you
all
this
morning
and
wanted
to
talk
to
you
for
a
few
minutes
about
how
convictions
and
tourism
is
doing
here
in
Columbus
and
want
to
be
start
off
by
reminding
everyone
that
tourism
is
not
just
an
economic
development.
It's
not
just
Economic
Development.
It's
also
a
strategy
based
on
third-party
research
and
key
performance
indicators.
AL
If
we
look
at
the
economic
Horizon
of
money
in
the
economy
and
how
it
is
performing,
it's
definitely
on
the
Traveler's
mind,
and
we
looked
at
the
hospitality
industry
as
well
as
looking
at
that
and
researching
how
that
is
impacting
travel.
Specifically,
as
we
look
at
Columbus,
45
of
our
travel
and
Survey
feel
that
they
will
be
better
off
financially
or
year
off
from
now,
27
percent
have
either
canceled
travel
vacation
plans
because
of
inflation.
AL
The
dollar
just
isn't
quite
doing
what
it
was.
45
of
Travelers
surveyed
said
that
they
haven't
been
able
to
travel
because
of
the
economy.
However,
and
this
is
the
exciting
part
of
that
30
percent
say
that
now
is
a
good
time
to
travel
for
pleasure
and
again,
our
research
is
showing
that
Columbus's
Leisure
Market
is
now
dominating
the
market
segment
and
more.
Most
importantly,
50
percent
have
said
that
travel
is
a
priority
for
this
travel
season.
AL
This
chart
illustrates
that
when
visitors
are
asked
to
to
how
they're
going
to
expend
their
income
over
the
next
three
months,
over
56
percent
responded
that
it's
not
just
top
of
mind,
but
it
is
a
priority
and
part
of
their
plan
moving
through
the
summer
months
and
then,
when
we
look
at
Key
motivators,
these
are
the
things
that
we
use
to
develop.
Our
strategy
around.
These
are
the
key
things
that
were
ranked
most
important
to
Travelers
quality
of
time.
B
AL
A
fun
fact
that
something.
AL
AL
If
you
walk
around
a
lot
of
the
shops
and
Retail
and
so
forth,
you'll
see
water,
bowls
and
other
types
of
things
that
certainly
allow
those
visitors
to
understand
that
Columbus
is
a
very
pet,
friendly,
Community
we're
also
seeing,
which
is
an
interesting
fact
that
there's
an
uptick
in
Travelers
using
either
a
travel
advisor
or
travel
agent,
that
that
Trend
had
Once
Upon
a
Time
had
almost
disappeared,
but
because
of
being
able
to
maximize
the
dollar
amount
for
spending.
AL
So
let's
look
for
a
few
minutes
on
how
Columbus
did
in
FY
22
and
we're
thankful
for
Columbus
State
University,
providing
this
data
in
this
research
based
off
of
information.
They
gather
from
us.
The
destination
saw
2.3
million
visitors
in
the
Des
in
the
city,
and
they
were
here
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
The
top
of
that
was
a
Leisure
Travel
meeting
and
conventions
visiting
friends
and
relatives,
corporate
travel,
of
course,
Fort
Benning
and
sports.
AL
Those
visitors
generated
over
300
million
dollars
for
the
destination
and
that
was
supported
over
4
000
jobs
and
generated
a
payroll
of
109
million
dollars
for
the
community
and
then,
if
we
break
it
down
and
look
at
the
the
the
market
segments
that
are
in
those
jobs
that
were
impacted
by
the
hospitality
Community,
we
see
it
ranges
from
entertainment,
arts
and
Recreation
retail
lodging,
of
course,
and
then
restaurants
and
food
service
topping
out
the
top
of
that
list
and.
AL
A
few
minutes
on
daily
spending
of
visitors.
Well,
you
know
we.
We
talked
about
a
big
number,
but
let's
look
at
the
daily
expenditure
and
what
those
visitors
mean
to
our
community
each
day,
there's
over
6
400
people
in
Columbus
for
some
reason,
whether
it's
for
business
or
for
leisure
visiting
their
soldier
at
Fort,
Benning
they're
here
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
and
they
spend
a
little
more
than
832
thousand
dollars
each
and
every
day,
which
means
that
on
average,
every
visitor.
That's
here
spends
almost
129
dollars
in
our
community
each
and
every
day.
AL
AL
The
breakdown
even
further
into
the
specific
markets
that
that
visitor
spending
impacts.
If
we
look
at
restaurants,
we'll
see
161,
000
plus
dollars,
impacting
with
folks
eating
out
again
every
single
day
over
235
thousand
dollars
spent
in
our
hotels
and
lodging
169
000
plus
spent
in
retail
I.
Think
that
most
of
us
who
travel
that's
probably
the
first
thing
we
do
when
we
go
on
vacation
or
go
for
businesses,
we've
gotten
something
or
we
want
to
take
a
souvenir
home.
AL
We
also
need
to
look
at
our
arts
and
entertainment,
Parks
and
Rec
and
so
forth,
and
we
see
over
fifty
seven
thousand
dollars
spent
every
single
day
in
our
community
in
these
particular
segments,
which
means
that
every
day
visitor
spending
ads
and
over
economic
impact
generating
some
fifty
four
thousand
dollars
in
sales
and
lodging
tax
for
the
city
and
another
way
to
bring
this
down
even
more
succinctly
to
what
it
means
to
not
just
the
city,
the
government
here,
but
also
to
each
household
as
there
is
a
household
Savings
of
534
dollars.
AL
Because
of
visitor
spending
and
the
way
to
look
at
that
is
that
visitor
spending
was
not
taking
place
in
the
community
that
the
government
you
all
the
city
council,
our
leadership
and
so
forth-
will
have
to
find
other
resources
to
meet
the
demands
and
expectations
of
the
citizens.
So
that's
why,
when
we
say
that
tourism
is
economic
development,
it's
because
of
the
the
impact
that
it
leaves
in
the
city
when
those
visitors
come
and
spend
that
money
and
leave
and
go
back
home
and
then
final
chart
here.
AL
I
wanted
to
talk
about
how
the
city
is
doing
as
far
as
travel
goes
with,
the
recovery
from
covid
visitation
is
nearly
where
we
were
pre-covered
and
visitors
spending
continues
to
improve,
but
we
continue
to
watch
what's
happening
with
the
variety
of
the
different
types
of
Health
crisis
that
are
out
there.
The
other
factors
that
could
impact
a
travel
and
we
remains
focused-
and
this
is
the
key
part
of
what
my
staff
does
is.
AL
L
You
thank
you.
Mr
Bowden
appreciate
you
Mary
for
what
you're
doing
too
so
Mary
next
I've
got
an
Integrated
Waste
update
director
of
Public
Works
Adriel
short,
and
our
finance
director
will
talk
about
the
financial
component
and
concerns
that
she
has
that
we
have,
as
it
relates
to
the
state
of
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
and
Public
Works
Public
Works
director.
Drill
short,
is
coming.
AE
Afternoon
everyone,
my
apologies,
like
they're,
rolling
up
courts
up
trying
to
get
everybody
situated
good
afternoon,
hope
you
all
had
a
really
nice
holiday
weekend.
My
name
is
Trail
short,
as
you
all
know,
and
I'm
here,
to
give
you
an
update
on
our
Integrated
Waste
program.
I.
Do,
however,
want
to
take
just
a
moment
if
the
city
manager
is
okay
with
it
to
introduce
you
our
new
Integrated
Waste
manager,
I'm
John,
Pittman,
who's
standing.
AE
John
Pittman,
okay,
yes,
ma'am,
and
we
are
just
really
really
fortunate
with
his
experience
and
making
sure
that
Integrated
Waste
funds
are
working
and
are
healthy
and
making
sure
programs
are
working
to
the
best
practice
that
we
have
he's
already
come
in
and
done
a
lot
of
things
that
are
already
starting
to
make
minor
changes
in
our
processes.
But
there
are
some
things
that
we're
going
to
need
to
do
in
order
to
improve
them.
K
Good
afternoon,
mayor
council,
John,
Pittman
Integrated
Waste
manager.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
before
you
this
afternoon
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
a.
K
My
agenda
is
I
want
to
just
give
you
an
overview
of
our
staff
challenges.
The
surface
impact
I
want
to
give
you
a
little
bit
about
amways
private
hauler
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
Peak
seasons
for
our
bulk
waste.
Some
operational
changes
going
forward
some
vehicle
recognition
and
our
strategy
overall
strategy
for
both
collection,
and
then
we
want
to
get
your
approval.
You
know
to
move
forward
with
a
request
that
we
have
when
it
comes
to
the
way
that
we
collect
bulk
waste.
We
want
to
get
the
word
out.
K
We
want
to
get
the
word
out
and
and
then,
after
that,
we
we'll
be
open
for
some
questions.
K
First,
what
you
see
on
our
screen
is
the
Integrated
Waste
collections,
FY,
21,
22
and
23..
It's
a
full-time,
CDL
operators.
This
is
what
we
had.
You
know
after
covet
in
21
in
our
household
waste,
and
these
are
remind
you.
These
are
all
CDL
operators,
CDL
positions.
K
We
got
Recycling
yard
waste
grab
balls
and
in
the
total
staff
positions
in
21,
which
is
post
covet,
we
had
68
CDL
employees
and
then
at
22
we
kind
of
dropped
down
a
little
bit
to
54
and
and
then
23
we
have
54.
for
the
most
part.
We
have
some.
We
had
vacancies
in
21.
K
and
we
had
17
vacancies
in
22.
We,
you
know
we
went
down
a
little
bit
to
14
and
then
23.
We
have
14
vacancies
So.
Currently
right
now,
when
it
comes
to
the
CDL
operators,
we
have
about
nine
open
vacancies
that
we
gotta
Implement
in
order
to
to
move
forward.
So
the
impact,
the
impact
you
know
with
covet
kind
of
slowed
us
down
a
little
bit
so
we're
getting
back
on
track
now:
bulk
waste
collection,
Services
impact.
K
You
know,
as
I
was
saying
earlier,
due
to
the
personnel
and
Equipment
shortage
that
had
an
impact
on
our
operation.
Cdl
operators,
we
couldn't
get
any
impacted,
Fleet
mechanics.
We
couldn't
get
any
mechanics
to
to
keep
our
vehicles
on
the
road
back
in
August,
21
Airways.
They
provided
us
container,
Yard
Service
for
our
Greenways
for
the
city.
You
know
they
turn
over.
We
turned
over
actually
14
routes
to
amways
there,
which
is
about
56
per
week.
You
know
at
the
time
you
know
we
were
paying
amways
439
600
per
month.
K
That's
that
was
that
that's
our
current
expense
right
now
and
weighs
expenses
to
date
that
we've
paid
out
7.3
million
dollars
for
the
services
at
the
end
of
the
physical
year
expense.
We
projected
about
8.665
million
dollars
going
forward
a
pick
season,
waste
collection,
just
a
quick
overview.
You
know
our
peak
season
is
through
from
March
through
October
31st.
K
The
impacts
affected,
the
bulk
collections
for
for
FY
22,
you
know
again,
personnel
and
Equipment
shortages
covet
impacted
us,
of
course
you
know,
and
it'll
and
and
we
were
able,
the
Constitution
was
what
what
was
able
to
do
more
in
the
yards
and
put
more
on
the
curve
because
they
were
working
from
home.
So
they
had
a
lot
of
time,
a
lot
more
time
to
be
able
to
get
out
in
the
yard
and
put
out
more
yard
waste.
K
The
employee's
salaries
was
addressed
in
in
the
last
survey,
so
that
has
been
taken
care
of.
So
the
pay
company
was
an
issue
back
in
in
FY
22,
and
so
that
has
been
taken
care
and
implemented
going
forward.
K
Currently,
we
have
a
daily
bolt
collection
routes
that
you
know
what
we're
doing
right
now
we
go
up
and
down
the
streets
and
that's
how
we
collect
it.
We
see,
what's
out
there,
we
put
out,
you
know
a
driver's
ride
through
every
street
each
day
on
a
certain
route.
So
our
proposal
right
now
is
that
we've
determined
that's
kind
of
inefficient
for
our
operation,
so
it
gives
us
a
lot
of
time.
You
know
out
on
the
streets
unnecessary
times,
so
we
want
to
change
the
way
we
operate.
K
We
want
to
line
up
with
the
ordinance
we
want
to
do
what
we
call
a
call-in
service.
You
know
we,
the
residents,
put
their
yard
trash
out,
though
they
both
waste
out
on
the
curb
and
they
call
us
and
schedule
it,
and
that
will
be
done
on
the
same
day
that
we
collect
their
garbage
their
waste
garbage
so
going
forward.
We
want
to
ask
that
you
support
that
that
that
you
give
us
the
approval
to
move
forward
with
that
call
in
service
some
additional
operational
changes.
You
know
for
the
call-in
service.
K
It's
we
believe
that
it's
better
customer
service
we
can
relate.
You
know
the
customer
calls
in
you
talk
to
some
staff.
They
schedule
their
pickup
and
weeks,
go
out
and
schedule
and
pick
it
up,
and
it
also
extends
the
life
of
our
equipment
going
forward,
we're
not
riding
around
for
10
hours
a
day,
just
Friday
when
they
call
in
and
make
those
requests.
You
know
we
can
just
go
straight
to
the
to
the
destination
and
take
care
of
that
customer
reduces
the
opportunities
of
accidents.
K
You
know
that
kind
of
eliminates
the
fatigue
of
just
riding
around
you
know
throughout
the
community,
looking
for
both
ways
to
collect
fuel
Savings.
Of
course,
when
you
go
direct
to
the
from
point
A
to
point
B
that
eliminates
a
lot
of
time
on
the
road
riding
and
all
of
these
things
will
be
collected
on
your
normal
scheduled
day.
So
when
you
call
and
schedule
they
call
and
schedule,
it
will
be
picked
up
on
the
regular
garbage
day.
K
So,
fourth
comment:
we
have
some
some
race
study
recommendations,
waste
collection
fees
was
talked
about
in
a
race
study,
past
race
study.
You
talked
about
the
additional
card
fees,
something
that
we
need
to
look
at,
and
the
trees
for
fees,
collection
and
Disposal
also
was
another
Topic
in
the
race
study
vehicle
recognition.
What
we
have
here
is
a
blue
household
waste,
garbage
truck
we're
going
to
call
it
our
Columbus
Blue
and
that's
going
to
represent
our
household
garbage.
You
know.
K
K
Vehicle
it
would
represent
recycling.
So
when
the
recycling
truck
comes
to
white
vehicle
comes
through,
you
know,
the
customer
will
know
that
hey
that's
the
recycling
truck,
because
sometimes
we
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls
saying:
hey
you
got
the
truck
rolled
by
so
now
they'll
be
able
to
identify
it
going
forward.
You
know,
they'll
know,
what's
what's
out
there,
whether
it's
a
recycling
truck
or
whether
it's
a
garbage
truck
the
white
represents
Recycling
and
Columbus
Blue
will
represent
household
waste,
our
strategy
for
boat
collection.
We
we
originally
started
this.
K
We
wanted
to
do
a
clean
sweep
for
the
first
week
of
April.
We
didn't
get
the
opportunity
to
do
that,
but
we
are
actually
on
track,
we're
on
top
of
our
buckwheats,
we're
not
behind.
So
we're
good
to
go
going
forward.
10
grab
ours
that
we
have.
K
We
deploy
them
daily
four
days
a
week,
and
sometimes,
if
we
get
behind
whichever
we're
deploying
five
days
a
week,
our
backup
system,
we
will
use
12
railroads,
that's
what
we
have
is
backup
going
forward
and
we
will
only
use
them
on
Wednesdays
and
Saturdays
if
we
get
behind.
Currently,
we
all
we're
on
task.
K
So
we
are
requesting
your
approval
to
move
forward
with
our
streamlining
our
operation
with
the
boat
call
call
in
service
the
April
1st
date
and
the
July
1st
2023
date
is
what
we
want
to
do
with
our
customers.
We
want
to
continue
to
train
them.
We
want
to
continue
to
let
them
know
how
the
system
work
and
the
direction
that
we're
going
in,
so
we're
going
to
train
them
during
that
time
frame
and
let
them
know
that
they
have
to
call
in
and
and
and
schedule
their
bulk
collections
pick
up
going
forward.
K
How
are
we
going
to
do
that?
We're
going
to
roll
out
that
immediate
Bliss
that
we
have
we're
going
to
get
the
word
out
for
both
collection
through
radio
media,
cable
television,
broadcast
TV,
ccg
TV,
the
web
page,
every
social
media
technology
that
we
have
that
we
can
officially
use
we're
going
to
get
that
word
out
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
get
that
word
out
going
forward
at
this
time.
I'll
be
more
than
having
to
take
any
questions.
If
you
have
Council.
C
AF
AF
AE
A
J
AC
AC
K
We
want
to
advise
you
to
put
it
out
the
day
before
your
regular
garbage
day
and
the
night
before
so.
AC
AC
And
if
the,
if
I
can
just
provide
a
little
bit
of
visual
feedback,
that
maybe
the
the
truck
should
be
swapped
since
the
recycle
bin
is
blue
and
the
truck
is
blue.
Just
maybe
just
maybe
something
to
give
a
little
bit
of
thought
to.
AE
The
differentials
in
the
color
excuse
me
John,
but
the
most
important
thing
to
know
is
that
if
you
give
us
the
approval
to
move
forward,
we
no
longer
will
have
to
go
down
every
single
Street
in
Muskogee
County.
Looking
for
ways
now,
it
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
schedule
waste
collection
and
not
have
to
use
the
fuel
to
just
go
up
and
down
streets
that
have
absolutely
nothing
on
them
right.
A
V
A
AE
C
AM
It's
an
honor
to
be
with
you
today.
We
as
you're
aware
we
provide
the
Greenway
Services
for
the
integrated
plan,
Solid
Waste
Management
plan
for
the
city.
My
name
is
Randy
Lee
I'm,
the
Chief
Operating
Officer
for
am
waste
and
I'll,
see
our
parent
companies
matter.
Management
Enterprises,
we're
located
in
West
Point
Georgia,
our
corporate
offices
in
Westport
Georgia
operation.
Our
scope
of
work
and
daily
plan
is
the
14
routes,
as
described
by
Mr
Pittman.
Those
are
three-man
Crews.
We
have
a
total
of
42
route
employees.
A
AM
That
includes
additional
two
additional
swing:
drivers.
We
have
a
14
spare
ratio
which
industry
standard
for
a
rear
loader
which
we
use
the
rear
loader,
rather
than
what
you
use
are
the
automated
sign
loaders
industry
standards
10.
So
we
have
16
trucks
for
14
rounds.
We
have
14
primary
drivers,
two
two
spare
drivers,
part
of
that
admin
support,
including
the
route
manager,
all
of
our
route
managers
locally
within
LaGrange
and
Randolph
Chambers,
County
and
Pike
County
are
all
CDL
certified
and
and
we'll
drive.
AM
I
I
hold
a
CDL
myself
and
at
times
during
Force
major
issues
and
coveted
and
whatnot.
You
know
we
find
ourselves
doing
doing
such
things.
So
we
have
more
than
enough
coverage
on
our
contingency
plan,
operational
contingency
plan,
to
manage
any
scenario
Act
of
God
more
than
your
issues.
AM
What
not
so
currently
we're
operating
on
a
recovery
recovery
opportunities,
the
code
two
that
we
get
from
the
city
of
less
than
0.01
of
total
Services,
provided,
which
is
the
gold
standard
for
our
industry,
which
was
established
actually
by
Waste
Management,
the
big,
the
biggest
company
biggest
always
Environmental,
Services
Company
in
the
world,
and
they
use
the
UPS
number
United,
Parker
first
number
for
establishable
class
and
that's
two
percent
of
services,
so
we're
at
point
less
than
0.01,
which
is
on
average
of
about
four
to
five
a
day
on
a
four
day
work
week.
AM
So
you
know
the
homes
you
can
do
the
math.
That's
pretty
good!
There's
no
questions
asked
we
get
to
receive
those
code
twos
we
either
recover
those.
AM
Day
first
thing
in
the
morning
and
we'll
report
back
to
the
city
to
Darrell's
team
and
no,
like
I,
said
no
questions
asked,
although
we
do
have
the
capability
of
recording
every
one
of
our
services
with
the
Linux
systems,
Drive,
cams
and
or
third
eye
system,
which
is
a
six
six
camera
six
camera
safety
system
on
the
truck.
AM
So
but
we
don't
use
that
here,
but
there's
so
few
there's
so
few
misses
or
they
missed
us
that
we
just
go
get
them
so
usually,
usually
those
are
within
within
12
hours
of
the
request
of
the
next
morning.
Our
operational
contingency
plan,
as
I,
spoke
to
briefly.
We
do
have
personnel
and
additional
rowing
stock
and
LaGrange
Georgia,
which
is
managed
by
the
same
area.
Vice
president
Pike
County,
Chambers,
County
and
Randolph
County
Alabama.
AM
Oh
look
as
I
said
over
our
senior
managers
and
Route
managers
or
CDO
certified
and
can
fall
in
and
replace
a
driver
at
any
time.
We
also
use
temporary
labor
on
the
back
on
the
back
and
in
case
our
full-time
helpers,
we're
having
retention
issues.
If
we
have
retention
issues,
we're
usually
good
about
keeping
our
folks
pay
them
well
and
treat
them
well,
and
we
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
serve
the
city
of
Columbus
with
our
service.
C
X
Well,
while
you're
here,
just
something
to
think
about
I've
noticed
that
the
recycle
can,
when
you,
when
it's
raining
and
you
raise
the
lid,
the
water
drains
off
the
lid.
But
when
you
on
the
other
two
cans,
when
you
raise
the
lid,
the
water,
the
top
is
concave,
and
so
it
collects
water.
And
when
you
raise
the
lid,
the
water
goes
in
the
can
and
there
are
no
holes
in
the
can
for
obvious
reasons,
so
it
stays
in
there
and
it
causes
a
problem.
AE
F
Yes,
I
wanted
to
thank
director
short.
You
know
we
had
several
Community
meetings
in
reference
to
our
boat
waste
and
trash,
and
things
like
that.
F
You
listen
in
reference
to
this
collection
pickup,
where
we
call
in
I
actually
have
been
promoting
that
on
the
radio
like
almost
every
Friday,
whether
it's
3-1-1
or
you
know,
calling
and
also
I'm
gonna,
say
my
seat
mate
here,
Joanne
counselor
Chicago
we've
been
doing
it
on
social
media.
Like
you,
if
you
contact
them,
they
will
pick
it
up
and
I
think
one
day
it
was
less
than
24
hours,
like
I
put
it
in
and
that
next
morning
you
know
it
was
all
picked
up.
F
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
listening
and
actually
putting
this
in
in
place.
So
thank
you.
M
Mr
city
manager,
one
of
the
easiest
things
that
I
answers
that
I
get
to
give
citizens
when
they
call
me
is
I,
tell
them
call
3-1-1.
Is
this
going
to
be
through
the
book
calling
through
3-1-1?
Yes,.
AE
M
Okay,
and
so
anybody
that
wants
to
have
this
bulk
pick
up,
call.
AE
M
M
Okay,
I
I,
don't
consider
my
printer
a
hazardous
waste.
AE
W
W
AE
W
I
I
will
have
to
say
and
I'm
going
to
use
the
kind
of
a
joking
analogy,
but
you
know
sometimes
from
we
get
extreme
concerns
from
our
end
and
then
we
throw
rocks
that
you're
in
you
know,
but
every
once
in
a
while,
probably
more
often
than
most,
but
we
need
to
send
accolades.
We
need
to
send
flowers,
we
need
to
send
gifts.
W
It's
an
extreme
notice,
noticeable
difference
in
the
services
out
there,
and
you
know
that
was
a
challenge
and
I
guess
I'm,
trying
to
tell
you
that
the
incredible
job
that
y'all
are
doing
and
at
the
same
time
telling
you
that
you've
got
a
tough
job,
a
really
extreme
job.
W
Through
The
Years,
there's
there's
things
that
come
up
but
you're
addressing
them
so
I
guess,
in
summary,
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
do
an
incredible
job.
W
It's
a
good
job
and
you
know
I'm
just
glad
we
got
to
this
point
and
we
need
sometimes
to
communicate
that
to
you
and
your
people,
of
what
they're
doing
over
there,
the
great
things
and
sending
accolades
and
Flowers
and
gifts,
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
do
because,
most
of
the
time
in
the
past,
all
since
I've
been
on
this
council
chambers
here
in
the
council,
the
the
directors
of
Public
Safety,
they
usually
don't
get
a
lot
of
that.
It's
usually
about
the
issues
that
we're
throwing
the
Rocks.
W
You
know
about
the
concerns
that
we're
getting
and
you
know
sometimes
you
just
got
to
stop
and
say
you
know,
good
job,
doing
a
great
job,
so
I,
just
I
just
want
to
express
that
and
I've
got.
Some
I
know
that
in
moving
on
that,
we're
going
to
have
some
more
challenges
that
need
to
be
talked
about.
Staff
city
manager.
Staff
brings
those
all
the
time
talks
about
them
all
the
time
and
updates.
But
mayor
one
of
these
days
you
and
I
are
going
to
have
a
conversation.
W
I
got
some
ideas,
I,
don't
know
if
they'll
work
or
not,
but
I
want
to
float
them
by
your
desk
and
and
see
if
it
can
help
in
some
of
this.
Some
of
these
things
that
we're
dealing
with
and
where
we
move
into
the
future,
because
we're
going
to
probably
have
to
make
some
tough
decisions
to
to
help
your
department
out
and
what
you
all
do
day
in
and
day
out
so
anyway,
I
think
I
think
you
you
get
the
you
get
the
jest
of
what
I'm
trying
to
say
to.
AE
AH
V
AC
C
O
O
App,
though,
is
it
has
this
long
list
of
things
and
you
have
to
go
through
it
and
and
try
and
find
the
appropriate
place,
and
that
really
needs
to
be
more
user
friendly
and
I
know
that
that's
not
your
area,
but
it
does
affect
your
area
a
lot
and
it
would
be
nice
even
on
the
3-1-1
app
to
have
like
a
button.
When
you
get
on
that
app,
you
know
to
call
in
bulk
waste
because
I
call
in
bulk
waste
all
over
town.
O
Using
my
3-1-1
app
when
I
see
something
has
been
put
out,
it
might
be
a
duplicate,
but
I'd
rather
have
you
get
it
twice
than
not
at
all,
and
so,
if,
if
we
could
simplify
that
on
the
3-1-1
app
and
then
really
encourage
people
because
I
like
taking
a
picture
of
it
and
then
sending
it
to
you,
because
then
you
know
what.
But
what
truck
to
bring?
Because
you
will
see
if
it's
a
small
you.
O
M
Mayor,
do
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
bulk
call
in
if
so,
I
so
move.
A
C
C
If
y'all
could
be
aware,
when
you're
on
some
of
the
more
narrow
roads
outside
of
the
inner
city,
when
they
put
those
cans
back,
two
vehicles
can't
pass
because
they're
they're
getting
set
down
in
the
road
and
I
know
it's
hard
and
a
lot
of
them
are
set
there
I
think
by
the
by
the
inmates
on
the
back
of
the
truck,
and
so
that
that
may
be
easy
to
to
fix,
but
it's
it
did.
It
does
create
a
dangerous
situation.
L
And
so
mayor
there
are
no
more
questions
there.
There's
one
final
piece
and
I
appreciate
the
accolades
around
the
table
and
Trail
does
an
excellent
job
but
she's
costing
us
money,
and
so
councilor
Davis's
comments,
I,
think
it
it's
a
good
transition
to
how
drill
short
is
able
to
get
that
done
is
costing
us,
and
so
you
know
it's
always
been
said.
You
get
what
you
pay
for,
and
so
we're
getting
good
service,
because
I
mean
we're
it's
costing
this.
So
with
that
our
finance
director,
Angelica
Alexander.
AN
Yes,
there
excellent
segue
into
I
guess
my
segment
of
the
presentation
and
I
kind
of
feel
like
the
bear
of
bad
news
here
to
some
degree,
but
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
integrated
the
state
of
the
Integrated
Waste
Fund,
in
terms
of
where
we
are
right
now,
with
our
reserves,
which
is
our,
which
is
our
investments
and
our
cash
on
hand
and
our
future
obligations,
I
wanted
to
provide
a
snapshot.
AN
The
last
time
I
mentioned
Integrated
Waste
fund
of
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
reserves
to
you
all
was
back
in
August
of
2022.
At
that
time
we
had
about
8.9
million
in
investments
in
cash
on
hand,
which
is
what
we
count
as
reserves.
We'd
actually
ended,
FY
21
at
11.9,
11.8
million,
so
a
little
less
starting
out
the
the
new
fiscal
year
I
mean
FY
as
of
August
of
22
at
8.9.
At
that
time
we
had
about
4.8
million
due
left
on
the
amways
contract.
AN
This
did
not
include
any
fuel
surcharges
which
left
a
revised
Reserve
amount
of
4.1
million.
Of
course,
we
all
know
about
the
landfill
closure
and
post-closure
liability
that
remains
on
the
book
at
some
point,
we'll
have
to
pay
the
piper
so
to
speak
for
that
at
16.6
million,
so
that
leaves
as
of
August
of
2022,
a
deficit
of
about
12.5
million
I'm
sort
of
moving
down
the
slide
here
where
we
were
where
we
ended.
AN
When
we
closed
the
books
as
of
Monday
for
March,
we
have
about
4.1
million
in
investments
in
cash
on
hand,
which
is
again
our
reserves.
We
actually
know
what
our
2022
Reserve
number
was
because
we've
since
closed
FY
22,
we
ended
that
year
with
8.6
million
we
have
about
1.3
million
left
on
the
amways
contract.
This
again
does
not
include
any
fuel
surcharges,
part
of
the
contract.
AN
A
AN
Does
not
include
that
the
revised
Reserve
amount
again
2.8
million
and
still
not
leaving
out
the
landfill
post
closure
and
post
closure
cost
of
16.6
million
right
now
we're
at
a
13.8
million
dollar
deficit
for
the
Integrated
Waste
fund.
Now
that's
forward-looking
in
terms
of
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
in
terms
of
those
quick
snapshots
there,
but
you
know
really
sort
of
sort
of
more
immediately
I
kind
of
wanted
to
provide
information.
AN
As
far
as
you
know,
what
are
we
looking
like
in
terms
of
revenues
and
expenses
and
again
providing
the
information
for
FY
22?
We
ended
that
year
with
about
a
three
point
close
to
3.3
million
dollar
deficit.
We
have
more
expenses
than
revenues
that
we
collected
for
FY
22
for
FY,
23,
I'm,
estimating
about
a
13
point
million,
13.9
million
dollars
collection
in
terms
of
revenues
and
about
20
million
dollars
in
expenses,
which
will
end
this
year
with
another
deficit
of
about
6.1
million.
AN
AN
But
if
you
take
into
consideration
where
we
began
FY
23
with
8.6
million
and
taken
to
the
account
the
deficit
that
will
end
the
year
with
we'll
only
have
about
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
left
in
Integrated
Waste
Reserves
gfoa
best
practices
in
terms
of
Enterprise
funds
say
that
you
should
have
at
least
about
45
days
of
working
capital,
very
close
to
that
ending
at
2.5
million.
AN
So
you
know
what
that
means
sort
of
moving
forward.
You
know
currently
at
this
point
as
we
move
into
FY
24,
we're
obviously
not
going
to
be
able
to
sustain
the
amway's
contract
at
its
current
level.
Now
what
that
means?
AN
You
know
director
short,
the
city
manager,
staff,
I,
guess
Council
will
obviously
decide
you
know,
sort
of
what
that
means
from
a
service
level,
standpoint
I
do
know.
Council
did
approve,
as
you
may
recall,
council
did
approve
a
subsidy
from
the
general
fund
to
the
Integrated
Waste
fund
to
help
cover
the
cost
of
the
pace
study.
AN
L
And
so
mayor
and
Council,
obviously
councilor
Dave
is:
you
would
not
be
able
to
share
accolades
with
drill
short,
were
it
not
for
M
waste
or
not
for
M
waste,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
continue
to
be
able
to
please
citizens
like
we've
been
able
to
to
do,
then
we're
going
to
need
M
waste
or
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
hire
CDL
drivers.
L
Of
course,
you've
through
the
pay
plan,
we've
increased
the
paid
to
21
an
hour
and
no
Metra
is
picking
up
doing
better,
but
they've
got
the
same
situation
at
Metra.
They
cannot
have
not
been
able
to
hire
on
CDL
drivers,
and
so
you
know
we
just
want
to
share
this
with
you
today
and
we'll
have
to
have
a
a
follow-up
discussion,
especially
as
we
go
into
the
budget
process.
L
L
We
we
know
what
we
have,
but
we're
not
going
to
bring
that
forward
for
implementation
in
the
upcoming
budget,
because
we
committed
that
we
would
not
do
it
as
we
implemented
the
pay
plan
and
but
for
the
following
fiscal
year
following
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
L
If
we,
you
know,
we
could
talk
about
auditors
in
finance,
we're
struggling
and
so
I
could
go
on
and
on
and
on,
and
so,
but
that's
the
state
of
integrated
ways
and
where
we
are-
and
we
are
excited
pleased
that
when
I
my
garbage
and
recycling
on
Friday
is
collected
before
8
30
in
the
morning
I
mean
they
are
Timely.
L
L
O
You
and
yet
we
don't
need
that
today
and
we
don't
need
that
for
maybe
another
20
years,
and
so
we
have
time
to
build
that
those
funds
up
correct,
because
I
was
told
when
we
had
when
we
implemented
the
I'm.
Sorry
I'm
just
having
a
big
money
right
now.
No,
when
we
implemented
the
recycling
that
that
extended
the
life
of
our
landfill,
and
so
we
have
longer
period
of
time
to
collect
the
amount
of
money
that
we
need
in
order
to
close
the
landfill.
AN
Well,
that's
true,
I
mean
it
is
a
liability
on
our
books
in
terms
of
what
we
need,
but
again,
as
I
stated
previously,
that
is
more
so
long
term.
The
more
immediate
is
this
slide
right
here,
which
shows
the
6.1
million
dollar
deficit
that
will
end
FY
23
with
so
we're
talking
short
term
and
long
term
long
term.
We
know
we'll
need
the
16.6
million
I'm,
not
sure
it's
20
years
out,
drill
I
know
she
worked
very
closely
with
the
consultant
to
sort
of
program
that
into
the
rate
yeah,
so
right.
AE
Now
we
are,
we
are
at
25
years,
however,
also
understand
that
closure
post
closure
is
done
in
phases
of
a
landfill.
It's
not
that
we
just
close
it
down
at
one
time,
and
it's
done
it's
done
in
phases.
So,
even
though
we
don't
need
the
entire
16.6
tomorrow,
there
is
a
portion
of
it
that
will
be
done
and
will
have
to
be
done.
That
will
come
out
of
that
16.6.
If
that
makes
sense,
and.
O
This
is
another
thing
that
I've
asked
for
several
times
and
I
have
not
received
it
yet
and
before
we
make
any
decision
any
of
these
financial
decisions
that
you're
setting
us
up
for
I
want
to
see
the
cost
savings
to
our
government.
Because
of
our
use
of
am
waste,
we
don't
have
salaries,
we
don't
use
our
trucks,
there's
a
lot
of
cost
savings
and
I
have
never
seen
that
and
I
want
to
see
it
before.
I
would
vote
on
something
like
this.
AN
Right,
I'm
completely
understand
that,
just
to
give
you
some
perspective,
though,
even
with
21
an
hour,
the
new
rate
that
we
are
that
Council
approved
is
part
of
the
pay
plan.
The
value
of
a
person,
a
full-time
employee
at
the
21
per
hour
is
is
just
over
fifty
six
thousand
I
think
that
was
in
in
drills,
I'm,
sorry,
John's
presentation.
AN
AN
if
you
multiply
out
the
56
470
by
14,
that's
right
at
700,
ninety
thousand
five
hundred
and
seventy
eight
dollars.
So
while
we
are
theoretically,
you
could
say
that
with
saving
and
salary
savings
because
we
don't
have
any
employees
perform
that
operation,
the
cost
of
the
amways
contract
certainly
outweighs
the
cost
savings.
Absolutely.
L
Things
like
that
yeah
and
the
equipment
is
sitting
there
on
the
lot,
because
there
are
no
drivers
to
drive
it
and
so
remember
we're
short
on
Miss
Pittman's,
head
mechanics
that
helps
us
because
otherwise
mayor
you
know
with
Fire
EMS
and
everything
else
we've
got.
We
have
been
contracting
out
making
this
because
we
can't
hire
mechanics
and
there's
a
difference
in
changing
the
oil
at
the
shop.
Using
inmates,
then
sending
it
out
to
some
commercials
to
change
oil
right.
O
O
L
O
L
A
L
W
We
can
do
it
it's
a
matter
if
we
want
to
do
it,
but
you
know
right
now:
there's
sixty
thousand
people
that
pay
into
the
Integrated
Waste
fund,
but
we
boast
of
having
how
many
people
in
our
community
250,
270
000-
and
you
know
we
do
have
somewhat
of
you-
can
make
the
case
that
we
do
have
somewhat
of
a
transient
side
of
our
community.
W
C
S
I
was
going
to
mention,
as
Charmaine
mentioned,
their
their
cost,
such
even
she's,
not
aware
of
when
you
look
at
it
since
I've
been
on
Council,
the
biggest
payouts
we've
had
have
been
wrecks,
involving
either
bus
or
a
commercial
vehicle
like
a
like
a
trash
truck,
and
also
if
this
isn't
where
to
get
hit.
A
private
corporation
like
amway's,
actually
has
reasonable
Insurance
limits,
I
mean
if
you
were
to
run
over
and
have
an
amput
yet
empty
that
leg.
S
Half
a
million
dollars
would
not
come
close
to
making
you
whole,
but
the
private
sector
does
have
insurance
and
there's
also
mechanisms
for
penalties
and
contracts,
which
you
know.
We
can't
do
that
with
our
own
employees,
because
we'd
be
basically
enforcing
ourselves,
but
there
are
just
a
lot
of
advantages
to
privatization.
That
I
would
encourage
it.
L
Yeah
well,
and
and
certainly
mayor,
we
endorsed
privatizing
where
it
makes
sense.
You
know,
and
so,
but
we
we're
going
to
bring
back
that
discussion,
but
let
me
just
say
be
clear:
councilor
David
I
really
appreciate
your
comments
and
I
think
rail
short
and
her
team
have
done
an
excellent
job.
We
could
not
have
done
it
without
Amway,
so
I
have
to
express
appreciation
to
them
and
and
I
think
they've
got
they
have
it
right.
L
We
just
got
to
figure
out,
like
you
said,
Council
Davis,
how
to
fund
it,
but
I
think
we've
got
a
good
team
with
M
ways
working
with
public
works
and
we're
getting
it
done
for
the
the
citizens.
We
just
got
to
figure
out
how
to
sustain
it.
So
we'll
we'll
be
coming
back
with
more
discussion
on
that
anything
else.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
next
mayor
I've
got
a
pool
update
from
Holly
Browder,
our
Parks
and
Rec
director.
A
AA
I
always
like
to
go
back
for
those
of
our
public
that
are
watching
to
give
them
the
history,
so
they
kind
of
know
where
we've
come
from.
So
where
our
pools
began.
In
99,
we
transformed
from
18
neighborhood
pools
to
more
of
a
regional
concept
with
the
outdoor
pools
that
we
had
as
of
a
few
years
ago
with
the
four
outdoor
pools.
AA
But
where
are
we
going
for
the
summer
and
the
summer
we
will
have
the
Double
Churches
pool
open.
We
will
open
Saturday
May
27th.
This
is
very
similar
to
how
we've
done
in
previous
years,
and
we
will
close
approximately
the
week
before
children
go
back
to
school.
As
you
know,
lifeguards
are
comprised
of
our
teens
that
live
here
in
the
community
and
our
kids,
who
go
to
college
and
typically
come
back
and
continue
to
work
for
us
each
summer.
AA
What
are
our
hours
this
summer
going
to?
Look
like
these
are
the
operating
hours.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
will
open
May
26th
we'll
go
through
July
30th
for
Double
Churches
and,
of
course
the
Aquatic
Center
is
year
round,
so
that
doesn't
affect
them.
So
these
hours
are
simply
for
Double
Churches.
AA
AA
They
actually
use
the
outdoor
pool
for
another
swim
program
that
they
have
done
for
many
many
years,
so
it
gives
them
the
opportunity
to
have
two
locations
in
the
summer
on
both
inside
and
the
outside,
and
to
give
more
kids
the
opportunity
to
swim
just
gives
us
a
few
more
lanes
and
a
few
more
hours
each
week,
so
the
kids
go
out
early
every
morning
before
we
actually
open
to
the
public,
so
we
kind
of
allow
everybody
to
use
it
moving
forward.
Of
course,
as
always,
I
have
to
I
have
to
mention.
AA
We
always
need
lifeguards
and
continue
to
need
lifeguards
right
now.
We
need
roughly
about
25
lifeguards,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
applications,
but
we
can
always
take
more,
so
we
always
want
to
mention
that
we're
always
looking
for
lifeguards.
If
you
know
someone,
please
send
them
to
us,
we
do
our
own
training
classes,
so
they
don't
have
to
be
certified.
AA
Of
course,
they
do
have
to
be
able
to
swim
and
pass
the
certifications,
but
please
send
them
to
us,
because
we
will
take
care
of
training
them,
certifying
them
and
and
take
care
of
all
that
which
used
to
be
a
huge
hurdle
for
many
students
or
many
teens
and
their
parents,
because
it
was
costly,
but
we'll
make
sure
we
we
take
care
of
them
if
you
can
send
them
to
us
again.
What
are
we
looking
like
for
summer?
For
those
of
you
the
last
few
years
we
have
done
the
passport
to
Columbus.
AA
We
do
a
summer
fun
pass,
and
this
was
done
in
lieu
of
the
fact
that
we
had
the
three
outdoor
pools
that
were
closed.
These
are
the
summer
partners
that
we've
committed
to
partner
with
at
this
time
and
we'll
be
going
ahead
and
processing
the
passes
to
get
ready
to
hand
those
out
as
of
May
1st,
we'll
hand
those
out.
As
you
know,
in
past
years,
we've
partnered
with
all
of
our
agencies
that
are
listed
as
partners.
They
also
are
willing
to
help
us
hand
out
passes.
AA
So
it's
a
really
wide
Community
opportunity
for
us
to
partner
with
a
lot
of
organizations
and
then
give
back
to
the
citizens
and
the
kids
just
as
much
as
we
do
and
they're
always
great
Partners
in
the
fact
that
they're
willing
to
support
us
in
any
way
possible.
Not
only
will
they
have
passes
available
that
can
be
picked
up
at
many
of
these
locations.
AA
Of
course.
These
are
the
components
that
we've
had
before
from
the
outdoor
pool
to
the
Aquatic
Center,
of
course,
Metro.
The
ice
rink
is
just
summer
fun
for
kids
and
trying
to
keep
kids
active
and
kids
busy
talking
about
future
outdoor
pools
and
where
we
are
at
this
point.
Of
course,
squash
funding
is,
has
provided
us
the
opportunity
to
replace
the
salmon
Road
pool
the
Rigden
Park
Pool
and
the
Shirley
Winston
pool
the
funding
for
us
did
not
start
being
received
until
May
of
2022.
AA
AA
We
appreciate
your
input
as
well
as
the
communities
we
were
able
to
hold
three
public
forums
at
the
various
locations
as
well
as
hosting
one
at
the
Columbus
Aquatic
Center,
where
we
tried
to
get
the
swim
and
youth
component
as
well
to
to
give
us
our
information
and
we've
moved
through
and
into
the
design
phase
and,
of
course,
we'll
be
coming
back
at
a
later
time
for
approval.
But
just
to
give
you
an
idea
at
this
point
of
what
our
conceptual
designs
look
like.
AA
This
is
Shirley
Winston
Park,
to
explain,
explain
many
of
the
residents
and
you're
going
to
see
as
you
look
at
the
pools,
they're
very,
very
similar,
maybe
not
exact,
but
very,
very
similar.
A
lot
of
the
feedback
we
heard
from
the
community
was
parents
wanted
the
opportunity
to
take
their
kids
and
do
different
things.
So
our
goal
has
been
to
keep
them
as
similar
as
possible,
but
maybe
give
them
different
themes
and
different
looks
so
kids
want
to
visit
different
locations,
all
of
which
have
public
transportation
access.
AA
So
anyone
would
have
the
means
and
resources
to
be
able
to
get
there,
but
all
the
pools
are
going
to
have
what
we
would
call
A
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
It's
like
an
exercise
area
for
seniors
who
want
to
walk
backwards,
but
it's
it's
going
to
be
really
creative
with
Splash
sprays.
Sorry
I'm
losing
the
word
right
this
minute,
but
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
get
other
generations
of
people
in
the
pool.
So
it's
like
a
lazy
river.
AA
If
you
will
so,
if
you're
looking
at
the
the
design
you'll
see
there's
a
round
like
almost
not
quite
a
figure.
Eight
but
a
loop
on
the
left
side
of
the
pool,
and
that
will
be
a
lazy
river
type
situation
where
folks
can
get
on
a
get
on
a
float
float
around.
It's
very
tranquil.
It's
very
calm,
but
it'll
also
have
pocket
areas
where
people
can
sit
on
benches.
If
they
wanted
to
sit
within
the
water,
they
can
watch
their
kids.
They
can
watch
their
grandkids.
AA
They
can
just
watch
other
people,
but
they
also
have
the
opportunity
to
walk
against
the
current
for
greater
exercise
if
they
want
to
do
that
as
well.
It's
also
going
to
be
zero
depth
entry
going
into
the
pools
you
can
see
there
at
the
top
that
long
wide,
Blue
Area
will
be
a
zero
depth
entry.
One
thing
that
will
be
different:
that
we're
hoping
will
give
a
much
different
look
to
our
pools.
This
time
is
the
trapezoid
oil.
You
see
the
Triangular
shapes
there
will
be
shade,
so
they'll
actually
be
shade
over
the
pool
area.
AA
So
people
will
have
the
opportunity
to
sit
out
of
the
sun
if
they
choose
and
still
be
in
the
water
if
they're
watching
their
kids
play
they'll
also
be
smaller.
Kid
features
at
the
entrance
to
that
zero
depth.
Entry
really
trying
to
have
the
whole
concept
of
all
ages
in
these
pools.
So
your
youngest
of
children
could
play
there
in
like
a
top
type
area
and
the
older
kids
can
move
out
into
the
pool.
For
example,
this
is
as
I
mentioned,
Shirley
Winston,
Shirley
Winston
will
have
the
slide.
AA
You
can
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
there.
It's
called
a
run
out
slide,
so
it
does
not
actually
go
into
the
pool.
It
actually
goes
into
several
inches
of
water,
which
slows
them
down.
Once
they
come
down
the
slide,
they
can
get
out,
jump
out
and
jump
out
and
go
right
back
up
and
go
down
the
slide
again.
AA
The
pool
itself
is
going
to
have
a
zip
line,
so
they'll
be
able
to
actually
zip
into
the
pool
which
is
kind
of
cool
and
kind
of
fun
for
kids
and
also
there'll,
be
other
amenities
like
mounted
basketball
goals
where
they
can
play
basketball
all
on
the
edge
of
the
pool
they
can
play
volleyball
in
the
pool
and
then
at
the
very
top
you'll
see,
there's
little
yellow
circles.
AA
They're
kind
of
hard
to
see
on
here,
but
the
little
yellow
circles
that
are
actually
in
the
blue
area
of
the
pool
is
a
water
walk
area
if
you've
ever
been
to
pools
or
you've,
seen
where
the
kids
try
to
hold
on
and
try
to
maneuver
to
walk
across
the
water
or
they
may
be
lily,
pads
or
logs,
or
something
of
that
nature
that
they
can
actually
walk
across
and
play
in
the
pool
on
so
really
trying
to
give
all
ages
the
opportunity
to
have
something
when
it
comes
to
the
pool.
AA
One
thing
that
you
will
notice
also,
that
is
different
and
the
concept
of
this
versus
our
original
pools
that
we
had
you'll
see
those
green
squares.
Those
green
squares
are
going
to
be
Pavilions.
We
really
want
to
focus
on
trying
to
get
larger
groups
in
the
community,
so
family
reunions,
churches,
youth
groups,
places
like
that
that
want
to
come
and
use
the
facility
they'll
be
able
to
use
those
we'll
host
birthday
parties
and
things
of
those
Natures
Under
The
Pavilions.
AA
The
other
gray
squares
that
you
see
on
here
are
Cabanas
most
parks
and
Facilities
such
as
this
now
have
rental
space
for
Cabanas
people
who
want
to
have
their
own
private
space
for
their
family
or
loved
ones
and
get
out
of
the
sun.
We
will
have
those
for
rental
throughout
the
time
that
we're
open
and
operating
to
the
public
is
that
the
only
seating
space
known
there
will
also
be
the
addition
of
the
chairs,
as
we've
always
had.
AA
Typically,
our
pools
have
100
to
150
of
the
white
summer
pool
plastic
chairs
that
people
can
use
on
a
first
come
first
clear
basis,
so
there'll
be
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
people
to
be
able
to
use
any
type
of
aspect
of
the
pool,
but
this
is
Shirley
Winston
and
it
is
like
I
said
it's
slightly
different
than
the
others,
but
also
has
many
of
the
same
features.
This
is
Rigdon.
Rigdon
is
the
one
pool
that
will
have
a
slide
like
the
traditional
ones
they
have
now,
so
the
pool
will
go.
AA
The
side
will
go
back
into
the
pool
and
we
did
this
because
it
will
be
like
Double
Churches,
so
Double
Churches
has
a
slide
that
actually
runs
back
into
the
pool.
The
thought
process
was
that
we
wanted
to
have
pools
of
similar
Styles
and
pipes
on
each
end
of
town,
so
everybody
has
opportunities
to
do
different
things,
but
this
is
just
one
example
of
that.
This.
This
pool
in
particular
Rigdon,
will
go
back
into
the
pool
and
you
can
kind
of
see
there
what
it
would
be.
AA
The
north
Northwest
side
there's
some
lines
on
the
pool
lines
in
the
pool
water.
Those
are
what
we
call
floatables,
so
those
will
be
things
that
kids
can
hang
on.
They
can
play
on
and
they're
actually
anchored
to
the
bottom
of
the
pool,
so
they
don't
move
per
se.
They
can't
move
them
out
of
the
pool,
but
they
can
play
on
them
and
have
a
good
time,
and
we
can
also
take
those
out
the
good
thing
about
it
would
be.
AA
We
could
take
those
out
and
we
could
change
the
theme
of
that
area
of
the
pool.
So
we
can
make
it
new
and
fun
for
kids
periodically,
maybe
halfway
at
the
summer,
we
take
them
out
and
we
switch
them
from
one
side
of
town
to
the
other
or
we
just
switch
them
out
in
general,
or
we
just
take
them
out
period
but
trying
to
give
kids
and
give
us
the
opportunity
to
have
interchangeable
features.
AA
So
we're
not
just
always
having
the
same
thing,
trying
to
make
it
fun
and
creative
for
kids
to
really
make
it
a
a
destination.
A
visit,
that's
different.
Every
time
they
can
kind
of
come
again.
It
has
the
it
has
the
area
for
the
Zero
Entry
the
shade,
the
all
of
the
things
that
all
the
other
pools
have.
So
there's
really
no
difference.
AA
If
you
will
in
this
pool
other
than
the
slot
is
different,
so
it
doesn't
have
the
water
walk
and
it
won't
have
the
zip
line
because
we
are
going
into
the
pool
instead.
So
that's
the
only
difference,
and
then
here's
Salmon
Road
Salmon
Road
has
the
same
type
slide
that
Shirley
Winston
has
so
it's
it
doesn't
go
in
to
feed
into
the
pool.
The
only
difference
here
is
that
this
pool
will
not
have
the
zip
line
that
Shirley
Winston.
AA
Instead,
it
will
have
the
floatables
where
the
kids
can
climb
on
them
instead
of
the
zip
line,
but
it
will
have
the
water
walk
where
the
kids
can
walk
across
the
lily
pads
or
whatever
floatables
in
the
pool
and
walk
on
those,
and
otherwise
it's
exactly
the
same.
More
or
less
and
all
of
these
pools.
You
can
see
the
fence
line
there.
X
Pads
the
last
one.
Yes,
sir,
excuse
me
a
couple
of
questions.
Absolutely
excuse
me
on
the
I
believe
it's
the
Rigdon,
no
Shirley
Winston
and
salmon
Road.
There
is
sort
of
a
Loop
thing
that
does
not
connect
to
the
pole,
so
I
think
Rigdon
has
the
slide.
That
goes
into
the
pole.
AA
AA
That
that
is
the
slide,
and
it's
just
like
the
one
it's
salmon
and
no,
it
will
not
go
into
the
pool.
It
is
a
slide
where
you
it.
Basically,
the
kids
will
go
and
land
in
water,
so
they
it's
a
run
out
slide.
So
at
the
bottom,
instead
of
dumping
into
the
pool,
it'll
have
a
long,
linear
piece
of
the
pool.
AA
They
just
ride
out
into
you,
know
a
few
inches
of
water
and
the
water
itself
will
slow
them
down
and
stop
them
at
the
end,
and
then
they
can
hop
out
and
get
back
in,
but
you'll
see
it
has
several
Loops
there.
So
they'll
have
that's
the
tubes
if
you've
seen
our
current
pools,
it's
very
similar
to
that,
but
bigger
and
so
they'll
have
more
opportunity
to
kind
of
swirl
around.
If
you
will
to
go
through
those.
F
Yeah,
that's.
That
was
my
question
and
reference
to
that
slide
off
off
to
the
side,
but
it
does
look
fun
and
you
know
I've
said
several
times.
If
I
knew
that
2017
will
be
the
last
time,
I
would
have
participated
in
any
swimming
activities
that
surely
be
able
to
went
every
day.
But
this
this
does
look
nice
and
nice,
and
that
was
one
of
the
concerns
and
I
knew.
F
You
know
when
we
had
the
meeting
and
we
put
our
little
stickies
and
what
we
wanted,
that
the
features
and
amenities
could
possibly
be
different.
You
know
for
for
each
pool
location,
but
I
do
think
that
this
is
fair.
You
know
we.
AA
Really
wanted
to
stick
counselor
Tucker
to
your
point.
When
the
citizens
came
out
everybody
to
her
point.
The
way
we
did
did
the
did
the
on-site
with
the
public
was
they
got.
A
AA
And
they
got
to
choose
what
amenities
they
would
like
to
see
in
their
community
pool,
and
so
each
person
was
allotted
so
many
Post-it
notes.
They
could
put
it
on
the
picture
for
what
they
wanted
and
then
we
compiled
all
the
information
from
each
pool
and
from
the
Aquatic
Center,
when
we
did
it
with
the
kids
and
took
that
information
and
gave
it
to
the
designers-
and
we
said
here
you
go.
This
is
what
our
community
wants.
AA
This
is
what
people
are
asking
for,
and
this
was
the
result
really
wanting
to
try
to
give
people
as
much
of
the
amenities
that
they
asked
for
everybody
was
a
little
different,
but
parents
in
general,
we
heard
a
lot
of
parents
say
that
they
wanted
their
kids
to
have
different
opportunities.
So
like
this
week,
maybe
they
spent
their
week
at
Shirley
Winston
next
week.
AA
They
would
take
their
kids
to
Salmon
Road,
but
really
trying
to
make
the
kids
have
an
opportunity
to
feel
like
they
were
going
somewhere
other
elsewhere
or
outside
of
here,
while
they're
staying
in
the
city
limits,
but
giving
them
many
opportunities
here
within
Columbus
to
feel
like
they
were.
Having
fun
and
the
goal
for
us
is
to
make
them
as
similar
as
possible,
but
feel
a
little
different,
even
though
they're
all
going
to
have
the
same
amenities.
AA
AA
Don't
we
don't
have
those
yet
we've?
Actually
we
meet
Court,
we
meet
bi-weekly,
and
that
was
our
discussion
last
week
is
they're
going
ahead
to
send
us
all
the
colors
and
so
that
part
can
be
eked
out
and
decided.
So,
yes,
ma'am.
F
Okay,
I'm
a
probably
throw
somebody's
name
and
if
they
are
listening,
they're
gonna
smile
but
Michael
sold
Muhammad
from
David's
broadcast
and
said
that
he
will
host
the
pool
party
when
we
have
the
grand
opening.
So
you
know
how
we
keep
him.
Yes,
his
feet
to
the
fire,
but
he
said
he
will
host
a
pool
party
for
Shirley
B.
O
Thank
you.
This
looks
great
I,
wonder
if
you're
taking
into
the
design
you're
taking
into
consideration
the
ease
and
cost
of
maintenance
for
these
pools.
I
hope
we
learned
from
our
last
set
of
pools.
Yes,.
AA
In
the
years
to
come,
so
if
you
look
at
the
the
design
here
and
you'll
notice
it
in
all
three
of
them.
AD
A
AA
Yellow
oranges,
beige
kind
of
colored
Square
there
at
the
top,
so
what
we
opted
to
do,
rather
than
to
re-utilize
any
of
that
pump
pool
area
because
we
had
issues
with
it.
So
that's
where
our
chemical
systems,
our
control
systems,
that
typically,
would
be
housed
inside
that
very
large
building
at
the
top,
which
is
the
concession
area,
The
Lifeguard
area
and
also
was
originally
the
chemical
control
pump
room.
AA
We
are
now
going
to
move
that
outside
and
it's
going
to
have
its
own
space,
so
everything
will
be
brand
new
because,
as
we
mentioned
in
our
last
in
my
last
update,
we
were
keeping
the
actual
original
pool
building.
We
were
trying
to
save
cost
to
your
point
being
very
cost
effective.
There
was
no
reason
for
us
to
get
rid
of
those
buildings.
Do
they
need
a
little
dressing
up?
Absolutely
they
are
20
plus
years
old,
but
there
was
no
reason
at
their
core
that
the
own
structure
of
them
was
very
good.
AA
So
why
would
we
do
it
tear
down
something
that
we
could
very
much
say
so,
but
the
thing
about
it
was
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
day.
The
pumps
and
everything
that
were
stored
in
there
will
be
removed.
All
that
will
be
disabled.
We
will
then
use
that
space
for
storage.
AA
That's
one
of
the
things
you
never
have
enough
of
I,
don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
even
in
your
own
homes,
we
never
seem
to
have
enough
storage,
and
so
we
asked
to
be
able
to
use
that
existing
space
rather
than
build
another
structure
or
spend
any
more
money.
Let's
utilize
that
in
a
better
way,
so
we're
going
to
use
that
for
storage.
But
yes,
ma'am.
AA
Every
aspect
of
these
have
been
vetted
several
times
as
to
how
can
we
pay
the
most
cost
efficient,
whether
it's
the
chemicals
that
we're
going
to
use
the
chemical
systems,
we're
going
to
use
the
placement
of
the
actual
design
and
placement
of
some
of
the
pieces
in
the
pool?
Because
that
determines
how
many
lifeguards
we
have
to
have.
AA
So
we
had
a
long
discussion
one
day
about
moving
about
a
four
foot
wall
and
we
spent
about
45
minutes
talking
about
moving
a
four
foot
wall,
but
for
us
it
was
about
making
the
design
more
user
friendly,
and
it
was
also
about.
Where
would
we
place
our
lifeguards
for
the
safety
of
the
community?
So,
yes
ma'am,
we
have
taken
every
every
opportunity
to
explore
how
we
do
it
better
than
we
did
before.
AA
Absolutely
that's
all.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
these
that
was
rigged
in
following
okay,
so
splash
pads.
So
as
we
previously
discussed,
we
wanted
to
open
two
splash
pads
this
summer,
but
the
issues
we
continue
to
have
are
getting
equipment
getting
supplies
in
so
supply
chain.
Demand
has
been
a
major
issue,
but
we
have
continued
to
work
on
the
splash
pads
and
right
now.
The
last
thing
we
were
told
from
the
designers
is:
we
could
expect
to
open
them
in
May
of
2024..
AA
AA
AA
For
these
two
facilities
and
I
say
that,
because
I
really
want
you
all
to
have
the
opportunity
to
see
what
we're
thinking
from
sexual
design,
because
most
people
in
our
community
when
they
think
about
a
splash
pad
and
I'm,
not
negating
or
being
negative
in
any
way
to
the
splash
pad
that
we
have
in
the
Uptown
Woodruff
area,
it's
fun
now
you
know
it's.
It's
phenomenal,
I'm
glad
the
kids
have
it,
but
we
want
to
really
look
at
doing
something
different,
so
I'm
showing
you
a
couple
of
these
are
not
the
designs.
AA
We've
come
up
with
yet,
but
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
have
discussed.
So
you
can
see
here
that
it's
more
than
just
a
pad
that
has,
you
know
sprays
coming
up
out
of
the
ground
yeah
we
may
have
some
of
those,
but
we
will
interactivity.
We
want
kids
at
all
abilities
all
levels
all
ages
to
have
things
to
do
when
they
go
here,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
our
idea.
So
here's
conceptual
design
one,
here's
another
one.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
idea.
AA
AA
We
wouldn't
want
to
go
and
build
six
cookie
cutters
of
the
same
exact
things
when
it
comes
to
these,
so
we
really
are
looking
at
doing
different
things,
but
the
biggest
charge
we
gave
to
designers
was
we
don't
just
want
sprays
coming
up
by
the
ground
ground,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
kids
to
here's
another
one
and
it's
a
little
more
simplistic,
but
we
really
and
here's
here's
I
think
the
last
one-
and
you
can
see
here
even
from
like
the
leaf,
the
green
spray
that
you
can
see
and
you
can
there
below
it.
AA
You
see
a
green
looks
like
a
green
leaf,
so
that
is
transparent.
The
top
of
it's
transparent,
so
when
the
light
hits
it,
it
actually
makes
colors
on
the
ground
below
it.
So
when
I
say
we're
being,
as
you
know,
as
creative
as
possible,
we
really
are
trying
to
add
different
features
and
different
creativity
and
different,
interesting
things
to
everyone
that
we
build.
So
the
kids
will
love
it
just
as
much
as
we
do
and
they'll
want
to
visit
each
one
because
they're
distinctly
different,
but
here's
some
actual
real-time
pictures.
AA
So
you
can
see
some
of
those
features
that
were
shown
maybe
on
those
other
conceptual
designs.
So
here's
a
couple
of
pools
and
some
of
the
features
that
the
company
we're
working
with
has
done,
and
so
this
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
an
idea
of
kind
of
what
we're
thinking
but
really
bright,
really
colorful,
really
fun
and
inviting
for
kids
in
the
community
to
use
really
wants
them
and
kind
of
begs
them
to
come
and
use
it,
and
that's
what
our
goal
is
and
that's
it.
That's
all
I
have
for
slash
pads
today.
AA
You
still,
we
do
not
we're
working
on
that
right
now,
but
we
do
not
we're
trying
to
choose
some
of
the
space.
That's
maybe
easier
for
us
to
go
ahead,
because
one
of
the
things
I
did
not
mention
is
that
each
of
our
splash
pads
will
need
to
have
a
proximity
to
restrooms.
A
AA
Changed
out
of
a
swimsuit,
and
so
in
addition
to
not
only
building
those
flash
pads
depending
on
where
we
put
them,
they've
also
got
to
have
access
to
a
bathroom
and
a
changing
space,
and
so
that's
part
of
our
decision
making,
because
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
it
as
quickly
as
possible.
Okay,.
X
F
Yes,
have
we
had
a
park,
Master
Plan
update.
AA
L
You
thank
you
so
mere
Pro
Tim.
The
next
two
should
be
rather
short,
we've
got
a
demolition
update,
Ryan,
Pruitt,
director
of
inspections
and
codes
and
then
we'll
follow
with
Deputy
city
manager.
Lisa
Goodwin
in
the
Civic
Center
and
finance
the
right
to
Angelica
Alexander
will
come
on
that
one
Miss
Pruitt
thank.
AJ
Unfortunately,
I
was
unable
to
be
here
but
didn't
have
a
chance
to
go
back
and
watch
and
heard
some
of
the
questions
about
the
process,
how
properties
end
up
on
the
demolition
list
and
how
some
of
them
don't
and
just
kind
of
walk
through
all
that
so
just
kind
of
want
to
walk
through
quickly
and
I'll
have
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
so
the
first
step
in
investigating
any
dilapidated
property
in
the
city
is
to
determine
which
section
of
the
city
ordinances
we're
going
to
use.
AJ
You
know
we
get
complaints
through
3-1-1
we
get
phone
calls
we
get
emails.
We
even
have
people
that
send
us
letters
with
pictures
of
the
homes.
You
know
just
notifying
us
that
hey
there's
an
issue
in
our
neighborhood.
So
when
we
get
those
complaints,
we
dispatch
a
code
enforcement
officer
to
the
property
and
the
first
thing
they
do
is
determine
which
category
the
home
falls
into.
Is
it
a
property
maintenance
case
which
is
typically
what
we
associate
with
some
minor
violations
or
is?
AJ
Does
it
need
to
be
a
demolition
case
which
we're
all
familiar
with
and
is
for
the
properties
with
with
some
major
problems?
So
the
code
enforcement
officer
is
the
one
that
makes
this
initial
determination.
These
cases
have
different
paperwork
requirements,
different
processes,
the
whole
nine
yards.
So
the
code
enforcement
officer
makes
that
first
decision.
That
decision
is
reviewed
by
their
supervisor
the
code
enforcement
manager.
AJ
Then
it
is
also
reviewed
by
myself
as
the
building
official,
so
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
Demolition
cases,
which
are
the
more
serious
cases,
the
the
properties
with
larger
violations,
and
so
in
our
ordinances,
section
8-81.1,
paragraph
e
spells
out
11
conditions
that
make
a
structure
unsafe
and
as
the
building
official
it
is
my
job
to
determine
if
a
structure
meets
some
of
these
conditions,
all
these
conditions,
and
so
that's
part
of
what
we
do.
Each
time
we
go
go
look
at
a
property.
AJ
I
have
all
of
11
conditions
in
the
presentation,
I'm
not
going
to
read
them
all,
but
I
will
highlight
a
couple
of
them.
You
know,
there's
like
number
four
is
talking
about
the
structural
Integrity
of
a
structure.
You
know
due
to
the
strength
and
stability
is
there,
you
know,
is
the
structure
showing
signs
of
you
know
linging
those
types
of
things
that
make
us
think
there's
a
bigger
problem
with
the
structural
Integrity
of
it,
you
know,
is
the
building
clearly
unsafe
for
its
use
or
occupancy
number
seven
is
a
big
one.
AJ
You
know
a
lot
of
times,
people
look
at
a
structure
and
say:
well,
it
doesn't
look
too
bad,
you
know,
but
is
it
an
attractive
nuisance
to
children
or
vagrants
criminals?
Other
immoral
persons
looking
for
somewhere
to
do
illegal
acts,
and
so
that's
a
big
call
that
we
get
is
there's
a
house
that
recently
became
abandoned.
So
you
know
and
there's
people
in
there
already
using
it
that
are
up
to
no
good.
AJ
AJ
So
the
first
step
again
is
to
look
at
those
11
conditions
and
determine:
does
the
structure
meet
one
of
those
or
multiple
of
those?
If
it
does,
then
the
next
step
is
to
hold
a
demolition
hearing,
which
is
the
first
process.
You
hear
it
a
lot
where
people
come
up.
It's
the
first
process
in
our
first
step
in
our
demolition
process,
where
we
notify
the
owner
that
hey,
we
have
an
issue
with
your
property.
AJ
We
want
to
have
a
meeting
with
you
and
talk
about
it
and
go
from
there,
so
it's
held
with
inspections
and
code
staff
as
the
designated
agent
of
the
city
of
manager.
We
notify
the
property
owners
via
certified
mail
and
again
this
is
the
time
for
the
owners
to
dispute
that
the
property
should
be
eligible
for
Demolition
and
in
the
council.
Information
I
included
a
sample
letter
from
one
of
our
recent
cases,
so
you
can
see
the
wording
that
we
put
in
that
letter,
but
it
basically
says
the
city
has
identified
your
property
as
unsafe.
AJ
Unfit
for
habitation
hearing
is
scheduled
at
this
date
and
time.
You
know
bring
proof
to
why
the
structure
should
not
be
demolished.
We
get
about
10
percent
participation
in
these
demolition
hearings,
so
we
get
very
few.
People
show
up
to
show
cause
why
it
should
not
be
demolished
or
to
provide
us.
Their
information
provide
us
their
plans.
You
know
just
give
us
the
update
of
the
property
and
it's
you
know,
I
encourage
if
anybody's
listening
that
has
gotten
one
of
these
letters.
Recently
it's
crucial
to
participate
and
come
to
this
hearing.
AJ
AJ
AJ
So
if
the
value
to
repair
the
property
is
more
than
50
percent
of
the
value
of
the
structure
as
determined
by
the
tax
assessor,
then
it
is
eligible
for
demolition.
So,
if
the
tax
assessor
says
this
structure
is
worth
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
in
our
opinion,
which
again
we
use
our
construction
knowledge,
our
experience
to
do
with
the
permitting
and
all
that
to
estimate
the
repair
value.
AJ
So
if
the
structure
value
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we
estimate
their
repairs
at
forty
thousand,
then
the
structure
needs
to
be
repaired
and
it
will
not
be
on
the
demolition
list.
However,
if
that
same
hundred
thousand
dollar
structure
is
going
to
cost
more
than
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
repair.
Well,
then
it's
eligible
for
Demolition
and
we're
going
to
continue
the
demolition
process.
AJ
So,
at
the
hearing
or
after
the
hearing,
if
nobody
participates,
the
young
property
owner
is
going
to
get
a
second
notice,
which
is
also
in
your
packet,
which
we
call
the
45-day
notice.
It's
the
notice
to
demolish
a
repair
which
essentially
gives
starts
the
clock
for
another
45
days
that
again
notifies
the
owner
that
your
property
is
unfit
for
habitation
it's
unsafe.
It
needs
to
be
corrected.
You
have
45
days
to
accomplish
that.
Now
we
do
communicate
with
them.
AJ
We
do
know
construction
projects
take
longer
than
45
days,
but
they're
in
that
initial
45
days
needs
to
be
some
type
of
concrete
progress
to
move
forward
on
that
on
that
piece
of
property
and
then
again
demolition
cases.
So
once
the
45
days
is
over,
we
send
them
a
third
notice,
notifying
them
that
we
are
bringing
your
property
forward
for
Council
consideration.
That
letter
again
is
in
the
packet.
AJ
You
know
it
notifies
them
of
the
date
and
time
of
the
first
reading,
so
they
can
have
an
opportunity
to
come
before
this
body
to
make
their
case.
You
know
we
also
in
that
letter,
Twist
Again
more
documentation
to
prove
that
they
are
making
progress.
You
know
we
asked
for
contracts.
We
asked
for
statements
of
financial
capabilities
things
like
that,
just
to
be
able
to
show
us
and
show
Council
that
they're
serious
about
it
that
they
actually
have
a
plan.
AJ
You
know
to
take
care
of
the
property,
and
so
when
we
put
together
a
list
for
Council
consideration,
we
base
it
on
the
length
of
time
that
it's
been
on
the
list,
as
well
as
the
overall
condition
of
the
structure.
So
if
a
structure's,
the
worst
one
we've
seen,
you
know
we're
trying
to
get
those
to
this
body
within
a
year
year
and
a
half.
If
a
structure,
you
know
still
meets
all
the
qualifications,
maybe
the
owners
participating
in
the
process.
AJ
AC
So
you
addressed
everything
in
chapter
eight,
but
is
there?
Can
you
address
how
that
applies
to
chapter
nine
under
the
historic
historic
homes
like
specifically
in
the
Liberty
District
I
saw
that
you
had
that
9
31
or
9
51
or
whatever
number
it
was
up
on
there,
but
and
and
at
what
the
role
of
bhar
and
historic
Columbus
play
in
that.
AJ
So,
chapter:
nine:
that's
in
the
unified
development
ordinance
that
talks
about
the
historic
preservation
and
which
is
a
different
section
than
this
chapter
eight.
So
it
gets
a
little
confusing
with
the
numbers
but
the
historic
preservation.
So
with
the
Demolition
demolition
cases
bhar,
you
know,
does
not
you
know.
We
have
in
the
past
gone
and
informed
them
that
hey
we
plan
on
taking
this
property
to
council
for
their
approval.
AJ
AC
So
I
mean
I,
guess
the
big
thing
that
I
have
a
struggle
with
is
that
bhar
is
required
by
our
citizens
to
follow
our
own
ordinance
to
if
they
want
to
demo
a
fence,
they
have
to
go
to
bhar
to
get
approval,
but
the
city
does
not
have
to
follow
its
own
ordinance
in
presenting
any
of
these
houses
towards
bhr,
even
as
a
courtesy
like
the
two
houses
that
were
demoed.
AC
That
has
some
significant
history
behind
them
in
the
in
the
Liberty
district,
and
now
we're
talking
about
the
Elizabeth
Canty
house,
which
is
also
a
historical
Monument.
When
we're
talking
about
the
Liberty
district
and
preserving
I
mean
if
you
look
at
our
our
old
motto
of
the
city,
preserving
what
history
has.
AC
Whatever
progress
has
preserved,
you
know
I'm,
just
I'm,
really
struggling
with
what
the
agenda
of
the
Liberty
district
is
and
why
we
wouldn't
want
to
preserve
some
significant
structures
within
the
Liberty
District,
whether
you
know
whether
they're
moved
or
restored
or
brought
to
bhar
I
know
the
the
porter
structure
was
demolished
a
little
while
ago
that
would
have
been
an
outstanding
part
or
farmer's
market
or
or
what
have
you.
AC
AJ
Will
and
I
can
defer
to
the
City
attorney
about
city-owned
property,
which
now
you
mentioned
the
two
properties
recently
demolished
near
the
mall
Rainey
house.
Those
were
city-owned
properties,
so
that
wasn't
part
of
any
demolition
case
or
anything
like
that.
For
those
two.
AC
But
even
if
bhar
can
you
know,
go
up
to
the
to
this
other
people
and
and
offer
the
the
chance
to
move
those
houses,
it's
just
it's
just
going
forward.
It's
just
a
a
shame
to
see.
Let's
just
wipe
out
history,
if
we're.
If
we're
so,
you
know
if,
if
we're
so
passionate
about
stories
and
and
and
teaching
our
youth,
what
our
past
was
and
where
we've
come
from,
then
why
are
we
pushing
to
just
erase
it.
H
M
L
L
L
L
L
L
But
you
had
cases
on
them,
but
but
it's
you
know,
and
and
but
I
was
referencing.
The
six
and
eight
property
and
I
think
the
property
owner
lived
in
Atlanta
would
not
respond
to
certified
mail
would
not
do
anything
and
just
just
ignored
us,
but
when
it
got
to
council
that
person
showed
up
from
Atlanta
didn't
they.
They.
L
A
L
They
I
mean
if
you
go
up
there
right
now,
because
you
haven't
I,
don't
think
those
properties
have
not
gotten
to
this
point.
But
if
you
go
up
not
veterans
but
Second,
Avenue
to
Manchester
turn
right
and
then
take
the
next
first
right
and
just
drive
down
that
street
and
see
what
you
see
well,
I've
been
down
there
I
think
that's
your
District
terrible
part.
AF
AC
I
guess
my
I
guess
my
biggest
concern
is
just
I.
I
would
like
to
see
us
interact
with
bhr
in
the
in
the
historic
Columbus
a
little
bit
more
when
we're
talking
about
historical,
historic
houses
in
the
future
and
at
least
extend
the
invitation
to
talk
to
talk
about
them
in.
AC
A
C
AC
Down
and
I'm
and
I'm
not
discounting
the
the
blight,
that's
that's
around
Columbus
whatsoever
and
I
think
there's
a
time
and
a
place
for
for
demolition.
But
when
we're
talking
about
the
history
of
Columbus,
so
we're
talking
about
history
of
specific
areas,
I
think
it's
important
for
the
past
present
and
future
to
know
know
where
they
came
from
and
and
where
they're
going
and
I
just
think.
It's
a
shame
that
we,
our
first
response,
is
just
to
tear
down
those
houses
so
that
we
can
build
something
new.
But.
AC
No
well
I
mean
I
I.
Understand
that
the
the
the
steps
that
you
go
through
to
to
make
those
to
reach
out
to
those
those
people
but
I,
just
think
that
we
need
to
afford
those
two
entities.
Some
are.
C
W
W
But
I
do
know
the
list
is
getting
to
be
close
to
a
mile
long,
and
you
know
we
we
need
I,
think
we
need
to
start
asking
the
questions
kind
of
like
getting
to
the
end
of
the
Fork
Road,
like
Yogi
Bear,
always
says
when
you
get
to
the
end
of
the
Fork
Road
you
take
it
so
I
mean
you
question,
there's
a
there's,
there's
a
burden
to
the
taxpayers
here.
I
mean
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money
and
I'm,
not
sure.
W
If
the
you
know,
when
you
look
at
the
list,
I
know:
we've
tried
to
utilize
some
ways
created
ways
like
the
amnesty
deal
that
we
did
today
and
things
like
that.
But
you
know
it
just
seems
like
we've:
we've
got
to
have
a
better
system
of
process
or
prioritizing
these
kind
of
things
and
somehow
getting
these
Property
Owners
to
be
more
responsible
and
liable
and
I.
You
know
we
talk
about
this
all
the
time,
but
I
do
know.
W
That
list
is
getting
long
and
mayor
Mayweather
just
to
put
a
mayor's
commission
for
we
committed
together
or
something
like
that
that
you
know
to
take
a
take,
a
look
at
it.
But-
and
that
may
be
the
thing
is
to
engage
some
Community,
some
of
our
community
Partners
to
maybe
look
at
this
in
depth
and
give
us
some
some
ideas
of
how
we
can
move
forward,
because
it's
a
lot
of
money
and
I.
W
Maybe
that's
a
way
to
maybe
the
mayor's
Commission
on
Weeds
to
to
try
to
figure
this
thing,
demolition
of
weeds
to
maybe
get
some
ideas
from
the
community
I.
C
E
A
C
A
M
A
lot
on
the
corner
of
29th
Street
and
10th
Avenue,
one
block
off
Hamilton
Road,
where
the
house
on
that
Corner
burned
and
they
have
taken
the
top
floor
off,
but
the
rest
of
it
has
been
sitting
there
that
fire
was
at
least
a
month
ago.
Tell
me
how
we
deal
with
those
kinds
of
issues
as
it
relates
to
demolition
is:
is
there
something
that
we
can
do
to
make
that
owner
and
if
I
remember
correctly,
that
owner
is
lives
in
Texas?
M
AJ
Yes,
so
with
burn
properties,
which
we
do
get
a
lot
and,
of
course,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
in,
so
we
do
work
with
the
fire
department
and
we
get.
You
know
notice
that,
and
there
was
a
structure
fire
and
some
of
it's
left.
So
if
the
structure
is
still
standing
and
usable,
then
it
would
turn
into
a
demolition
case,
which
means
we're
going
to
send
the
owner
the
the
first
letter
and
get
the
process
started.
AJ
M
Well,
to
my
non-professional
eyes:
this
lot
cannot
this
house
cannot
be
repaired,
I
mean
when
you
can
stand
on
10th
Avenue
and
see
all
the
way
through
the
house
with
the
burns
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So,
as
I
said,
it's
corner
of
10th,
Avenue
and
29th
Street,
if
you
could
check
it
out,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Yes,.
AJ
M
AC
AJ
We
can
certainly
do
that
and
I
was
going
to
go
through
some
specifics
on
that
that
home
as
well,
because
I
know
that's
kind
of
what
generated
some
of
the
discussion.
AJ
Yeah,
so
real
real
briefly
on
931,
Fifth,
Avenue
I
know:
we've
been
talking
about
it.
So
again,
my
job
as
the
building
official
is
to
deem
want
to
structure
meets
one
of
those
conditions
in
8-81.1.
So
again,
in
my
opinion,
it
meets
paragraphs
two
three,
six,
seven,
eight
and
nine
and
therefore
it
is
unsafe
and
then
the
other
box
is
the
repair
cost.
Gonna
exceed
50
of
the
value
of
the
structure
according
to
the
tax,
assessor,
the
value
of
the
structures
a
little
over
fifty
seven
hundred
dollars.
L
C
O
One
percent
of
the
buildings
that
they
restore
would
have
been
on
your
list
because
their
their
value
was
less
than
what
the
tax
assessor
would
say,
but
it's
more
than
just
their
physical
value.
It's
their
historic
value,
they're
willing
to
spend
that
money
to
restore
these
homes
and
a
lot
of
people
may
be
willing
to
spend
a
lot
more
than
what
their
value
is
at
the
time
in
order
to
restore
them
because
of
their
historic
value,
and
so
I.
O
O
Some
revitalization
and
I
mean
we're
we're
tearing
out
some
of
the
reasons
why
we
wanted
to
revitalize
it,
and
we
just
we
just
took
over
the
Liberty
Theater
for
I
mean
have
you
considered
that
being
on
your
list,
because
we're
going
to
be
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
the
Liberty
Theater
and
if,
in
its
current
condition,
what
is
its
real
value?
You
know.
So
that's
an
that's
just
an
example
of
what
I'm
saying
that
we
should.
O
L
Yeah
and
and
some
would
say,
unless
it's
next
door
to
my
property,
you
know,
but
we
will
do
whatever
you
want
us
to
do.
We
just
need
some
Direction,
but
I
can
say
it
will
be
set
in
a
president
and
there
are
others
who
could
come
and
say:
well
you
treated
them
differently
than
you
treated
my
property
and,
and
so
it's
a
matter
of
so
if
we
want
to
create,
we
want
to
revise
how
we
handle
deal
with
you
know.
L
L
C
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
that's
the
end
question
is:
what
do
you
do
with
it,
because
if,
if
they
don't,
if
it
doesn't
get
fixed,
when
you
give
them
time
the
first
time
and
there's
not
anything
really
done,
we've
seen
it
I
mean.
Throughout
the
years
people
have
sat
around
the
stable
and
then
some
people
will
throw
some
money
at
it
and
they
just
threw
the
money
away
because
they
don't
do
enough
of
an
improvement
to
really
get
the
work
done
and
I
think
we've
had.
W
W
Yes,
there's
been
somewhat
of
a
consistency
in
how
we
do
things
and
we
usually
at
the
end
of
the
day,
let
you
kind
of
walk
these
matters
through,
but
you're
asking
us
I
I.
Just
you
know
I
I,
it
looks
like
there's
progress.
W
W
If
the
inside
of
the
building
is
the
problem,
then
make
sure
the
outside
is
secure,
that
the
concern
would
be
somebody
going
in
getting
hurt
as
long
as
it's
concerned,
secure,
I
think
we've
treated
other
matters
that
have
been
on
the
demo
list
exactly
like
that,
so
with
the
intent
to
give
it
a
little
more
time
to
to
try
to
try
to
recover
the
the
value
of
the
property,
so
that
you're
asking
me
I'm
I,
mean
I.
Think
that's
what
you're
asking
us
I
just
that's.
AC
I
just
think
going
forward.
We
need
to
treat
houses
with
historic
value,
I
mean
we
can.
We
can
say
that
we're
setting
precedence
with
something,
but
if
we
keep
doing
the
same
thing,
it's
just
like
banging
your
head
against
the
walls.
If
we're
just
going
to
keep
doing
the
same
thing.
So
at
some
point
we
need
to
make
a
step.
AC
Yet
we
need
to
adjust
our
way
of
thinking
a
little
I.
If,
if
we're
talking
about
historic
houses
I,
you
know
I
think
that
they
need
to
be
dealt
with
a
little
bit
differently
or
at
least
like
I,
said
again
before
at
least
have
a
conversation
with
bhar
and
with
historic
Columbus.
What
what
can
be
done
to
save
those
that
historic
value
and
if
and
if,
there's
nothing
that
can
be
done,
then
there's
nothing
that
can
be
done
and
we
move
forward
on
that.
So
that's.
L
L
AC
L
O
AJ
So
there's
currently
last
time,
I
checked
there
was
approximately
80
that
are
is
on
our.
A
AC
If
we,
so,
if
we
do
delay
it
to
I'm
a
little
confused
well,.
AC
L
AC
L
AC
C
AB
C
AD
C
All
opposed
to
removing
it
raise
your
hand.
All
right,
it'll,
be
pulled
off.
C
Okay,
councilor
Tucker,
you
still
I
mean
no.
F
I
was
just
gonna
say
the
first
photo
that
we
we
saw,
it
was
really
close
and-
and
that's
really
on
me
I
feel,
like
you
know,
that
was
her
district
and
I
kind
of
left
it
to
counselor
cargo
to
make
the
decision.
But
if
I
would
have
known
that
it
had
some
historical,
you
know
some
significance
behind
it
and
I
would
have
went
out
there
to
actually
see
the
location.
F
I
probably
wouldn't
have
voted
to
put
it
on
there,
because
we
just
we
just
had
a
meeting
I
can't
remember
it
was
something
I
think
it
was
on
Broad.
Was
it
on
Broad?
What
was
the
one
where
we
was?
They
were
talking
about
picking
up
a
home
and
bringing
it
down
to
the
historic
district,
and
we
met
with
the
one
lady
yeah,
so
we're
we're
really
trying
to
work
on.
F
You
know
kind
of
retaining
some
of
the
history
and
we're
doing
so
much
in
the
Liberty
district,
and
you
know
and
I
know
you
know
the
city
manager
when
we
go
out
and
we
we
do
different
tours
outside
of
the
state
like
when
we
was
in
Asheville
and
you
see
how
they
rebuild,
and
you
know
just
really
bring
the
Vibrance
back.
F
I
really
think
that
we
can
capitalize
on
just
kind
of
restoring
these
homes
instead
of
especially
when
it
has
some
history,
you
know
behind
it
and
I
didn't
even
know
it
was
Elizabeth
Canty's
home
I
I
would
have
felt
very
terrible
if
we
would
have.
You
know,
pulled
that
house
down
with
the
history
and
just
with
us
doing
Juneteenth
we
actually
did
the
black
Heritage
Trail
and
we
went
to
see
the
My
Rainy
house
and
we
went
to
different
places.
F
I
think
we
can
do
something
to
to
Spotlight
this
home
and
and
to
kind
of
bring
it
up
and
I
do
know
that
we
got
to
work
with
the
property
owner
on
it,
but
I
just
think
we
do
have
to
think
about
our
history.
That
is,
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
been
put
is
like:
where
was
your
Black
Wall
Street?
F
You
know
in
your
communities
the
Liberty
District
was
the
Black
Wall
Street
in
Columbus
Georgia,
and,
and
we
got
to
do
a
better
job
with
you
know,
bringing
bringing
back
some
some
livelihood
in
in
that
area,
so
greetings
so.
Q
Yeah
I
did
I
think
now
that
you've
pulled
that
off
the
list,
I
think
going
forward.
You
just
need
to
look
at
your
policy
and,
for
instance,
the
Udo
says
it's.
A
certificate
of
appropriateness
must
be
obtained
from
the
board
prior
to
demolition
or
relocation
of
a
building
structure,
work
of
art
located
on
a
historic
property
or
within
a
historic
district.
Do
you
want
that
policy
to
apply
to
the
city
going
forward?
Q
A
C
C
L
L
Q
L
C
Okay,
Council
Barnes
hang
on.
Let
me
get
down
there
to
you,
amen.
AF
Into
the
same
situation,
not
too
long
ago
on
8th,
Street
and
I
think
sometimes
we
put
the
clock
before
the
horse
or
some
things
at
the
following
meeting
after
I
asked
for
a
delay,
because
he
was
a
lady
here
who
brought
to
some
historical
organization.
I,
don't
know
if
you
recall
that
she
spoke
up
and
we
gave
them
time.
AF
I
think
we
gave
them
to
the
following
month
for
them
to
get
some
Traction
in
the
community,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
history
in
Winton,
there's
a
lot
of
historical
places
and
and
and
so
I
think
that
if
we
try
to
just
brainstorm
a
little
bit
because
to
your
point,
you're
right
on
this
issue,
because
it
puts
him
in
somewhat
of
a
tenuous
situation
a
wrong
in
I.
Think
what
we
need
to
do
is
try
to
do
some
brainstorming
here
to
see
if
we
have
historical
historians.
AF
We
have
a
number
of
historians
here,
but
organizations
that
could
bring
us
some
of
this.
If
a
house
comes
up
that
has
some
historical
significance
give
them
ample
enough
time
to
interface
with
them
and
and
with
Ryan,
and
if
it's
feasible,
financially
feasible
to
preserve
them,
then
do
it
the
one
that
was
torn
down.
It
was
really
historically
significant
as
far
as
the
black
community
is
concerned,
but
to
your
point
you
were
right
because
it
was
dangerous
and
we
gave
them
I
think
we
gave
them
a
month.
AG
AF
Half
and
then
because
I
had
called-
and
there
was
no
traction
so
correctly-
we
tore
it
down.
So
if
we
can
come
up
with
something
like
that,
then
that's
the
fix
submit
because
there
are
a
lot
of
buildings
throughout
Columbus
that
are
historically
significant,
that
are
in
disrepair
right
and
I
agree.
It
is
a
crime
because
once
they're
torn
down,
that's
it
so
I
think
that
we
can
come
together
and
brainstorm
and
find
out
go
out
into
the
community
or
maybe
run
something
to
find
out.
AF
If
there
are
historical
societies,
organizations
throughout
Columbus
and
structures
that
are
historically
significant,
so
I
I
don't
want
to
hamstring
to
your
point.
Ryan
is
doing
his
job,
but
at
the
same
team,
if
you
start
setting
up
president
next
thing,
you
know
you're
going
to
be
caught
in
the
Quagmire
and
so
to
this
present
situation.
I
think
we
what
we
need
to
I'm
comfortable
with
it,
but
I
think
we
need
to
start
thinking
about
coming
up
with
a
fix
for
this
year,
because
there
are
historical
structures
throughout
Columbus.
E
A
L
AJ
Just
had
two
more
brief
slides
to
talk
about
our
other
type
of
case,
which
is
a
property
maintenance
case.
So
these
are
cases
that
do
not
rise
to
that
demolition,
demolition
level.
We
enforce
the
2018
International
property
maintenance
code,
some
common
violations.
You
know
some
rotten,
fascia
board,
broken
windows,
you
know
leaking.
B
AJ
AJ
Maintenance
code
is
followed,
so
again
we
send
mail,
we
can
also
hand
deliver
these
notices
or
we
can
post
them
on
the
property
for
24
hours,
notifying
the
landlord
of
of
an
issue
and
includes
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
to
repair
the
violations
up
to
90
days.
And
then,
if
the
repairs
aren't
made,
we
have
other
additional
enforcement
actions
and
that's
all
I
have.
L
Thank
you,
sir
thanks
Ryan.
The
final
update
is
the
Civic
Center
Deputy
city
manager,
Lisa
Goodwin,.
AN
The
events
we're
having
more
events
related
to
hockey
and
there
is
additional
funding
that
we'll
need
to
carry
us
through
to
June
related
to
the
hockey
budget,
and
we
anticipate
300
000
as
well
as
needed
in
terms
of
expenses
that
we'll
have
through
June
through
Juniors,
of
course,
is
to
be
supported
by
Revenue,
that
we
receive
from
ticket
sales,
sale
of
merchandise
and
other
things
that
are
for
sale
during
the
event.
And
if
you
have
any
other
questions
related
to
it.
Of
course,
Deputy
city
manager,
Lisa
Goodwin,
is
here
to
answering
questions.
A
AG
C
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry,
the
motion.
The
motion
was
to
approve
the
request
to
allow
the
Civic
Center
to
exceed
their
budget
five
to
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
As
just
mentioned,
there's
a
motion
and
a
second
to
do
so
had
there
was
no
discussion,
so
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
AD
Thank
you
so
good
afternoon.
This
is
just
a
quick
update
on
the
arp
we
did
reach
out
to
the
state
we're
working
with
the
state.
This
has
to
do
with
the
small
business
grant
program
that
we
have
with
the
state
they
have
signed
off
on
the
amendment.
So
we
are
working
through
the
execution
of
the
agreements.
The
agreements
will
need
to
be
amended,
so
we're
working
through
that
process
and
as
soon
as
we
do
we'll
be
able
to
get
the
small
business
grant
program
up
and
running,
but
based
on
direction
from
Council.
AD
At
the
last
meeting,
we
did
send
an
email
on
March
30th
to
all
of
those
who
have
submitted
application
or
somewhere
in
the
process
to
notify
them.
That
there's
been
a
delay
in
the
process
and
that
will
get
that
started
again.
So
all
businesses
have
been
contacted
through
the
ARP
grant
program
to
notify
them
of
this
delay.
L
AD
So
we
had
put
our
guidelines
together
when
we
applied
for
this
additional
funding.
Through
the
state's
ARP
program
of
four
million
dollars,
we
sent
our
guidelines
to
the
state.
They
accepted
our
guidelines,
which
included
a
reimbursement
period
from
July
1
of
2020
through.
A
AD
Of
2022,
that's
the
right
thing,
and
so
when
we
had
been
processing
those
Grant
applications,
we
had
paid
out
seven
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
dollars
and
had
submitted
that
to
the
state
for
reimbursement
at
that.
Time
is
when
they
declined
the
reimbursement,
saying
that
we
were
outside
of
the
agreement,
and
so
we
have
been
having
discussions
with
the
state
for
quite
a
while
on
that
agreement
and
the
guidelines
that
they
explicitly
approved
as
part
of
that
process.
AD
And
so
we
are
now
in
the
process
of
amending
the
information
so
that
the
state
will
accept
our
reimbursement
requests.
And
so
we
wanted
to
not
issue
any
additional
checks
using
City
dollars
for
reimbursement
until
we
could
get
the
information
clarified
with
the
state.
So
we
are
working
through
that
process
with
them
and
very
hopeful
that
we'll
get
that
resolved
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
that
we
can
ramp
back
up
and
get
the
rest
of
the
grants
process
that
we
have
received
to
date.
But.
L
They
finally
agree
that
they
did
sign
off
on
our
the
guidelines
we
submitted
yes
and
so
now
we
are
processing
based
on
the
approved
guidelines
that
they
initially
said.
Yes
to,
then
they
came
and
said:
no,
we
and
so
we're
just
working
through
it,
and
if
we
had
proceeded
beyond
the
700
000
and
let's
say
I
spent
the
four
million
they
could
have
said,
no
we're
not
going
to
amend
and
then
the
city
is
on
the
hook
for
four
million
dollars.
Okay,
we
can't
get
reimbursed.
F
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
update.
This
is
actually
in
reference
to
the
second
half
of
the
Opera
dollars.
Are
we
going
to
bring
at
least
the
project
for
the
was
it
prosperity
of
poverty
reduction?
Can
we
bring
that
back
during
the
next
council
meeting
I.
AD
Have
a
meeting
scheduled
with
Friday,
we
are.
AD
We
are
one
and
then
once
we
have
gotten
the
agreement
in
place,
we'll
be
bringing
that
back
to
council,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able
to
walk
through
there
are
requirements
that
they
will
have
to
meet
related
to
ARP,
and
so
we
want
to
walk
through
all
those
requirements
with
them.
This
Friday
and
if
everything's
in
agreement
we'll
be
bringing
that
to.
A
F
C
AB
AB
C
C
C
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
C
All
right
we
are
gonna.
We
have
had
a
request
going
to
Executive
session,
but
before
we
do,
I
was
going
to
allow
Ed
up.
C
Yeah
we
I
I
I
I'll
I'll,
follow
up
with
Sergeant
Malone
on
his
case
and
ask
them
for
a
little
update
on
on
his
request
for
the
gbi
and
I'll
also
send
an
email
to
RDA
and
we'll
ask
them
to
reach
out
directly
to
him.
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
it'd
be
appropriate
for
us
to
get
in
the
in
the
communication
line
there.
So
all
right!
Well,
there
was
a
request
to
go
into
executive
session
of
the
City
attorney
to
discover
to
talk
about
real
estate
acquisition
and
Disposal
and
potential
litigation.