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A
All
right,
good
morning,
everyone-
we
don't
have
our
nice
introduction
this
morning,
we're
getting
off
the
three
day
weekend
and
I
guess
the
computer
system
doesn't
want
to
cooperate,
but
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
all
with
us.
It's
our
May
30th
special
work
session.
We
have
these
whenever
there's
a
cyst,
a
fifth
Tuesday,
and
so
we're
going
to
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
take
a
little
deeper
dive
into
some
issues.
That
counsel
would
like
to
hear
about.
A
B
Good
to
see
you
thank
you
for
the
honor
to
be
able
to
be
here
today,
I
fully
appreciate.
Thank
you.
Let's
go
to
Lourdes
and
prayer
together.
Shall
we
there
how
many
Father
we
come
before
your
presence
praising
you
for
who
you
are
Lord
and
for
all
the
blessings
and
gifts
that
you
so
abundantly
give
us
I
think
you
have
any
father
for
allowing
us
to
live
in
a
free
nation,
so
we
mean
by
worship
and
pray
openly
and
publicly
Lord,
where
many
people
have
to
pray
secretly
in
other
nations.
B
Lord
I
want
to
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
live
in
such
a
wonderful
City
as
Columbus,
Georgia
and
I.
Also,
thank
you
for
the
leadership
to
this
great
city
and
Lord.
There
are
many
decisions
that
must
be
made
today
and
so
I
ask
your
wisdom
and
direction
Lord
for
mayor
Tomlinson
and
the
City
Council
members
I
know
many
of
them
have
a
strong
faith
and
they
lean
on
your
wisdom
each
and
every
day
as
I.
Do
I
also
ask
for
your
protection
for
them.
B
This
morning,
Lord
we
are
blessed
to
live
in
this
city
and
with
any
City.
There
are
many
problems
and
need
to
be
addressed
and
corrected
in
any
great
organization,
and
so
because
of
that
Lord,
we
lean
on
you
for
everything
that
will
be
taking
place
here
this
morning
and
want
to
thank
you
for
answers
to
prayers,
guide
and
direct
everything
that
will
be
going
on
here
in
this
meeting
today,
Lords
in
Jesus
name,
we
pray
and,
for
his
sake,
amen.
A
Good
good
and
thank
you
for
all
that
cascade
Hill
says
for
our
community.
We
greatly
appreciate
it.
We
have
our
pledgers
have
been
waylaid
this
morning,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
with
us,
but
I
know
we
can
muddle
through
on
our
own.
If
you
all
would
stand
and
prepare
to
have
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
A
A
C
C
D
You
so
I'm
the
chair
of
your
Columbus
tree
board
and
the
tree
board's
mission
and
ministers
examinations,
the
applicants
seeking
certification
for
properly
maintaining
and
removing
trees
acts
on
adjustment
standards.
Applications
makes
recommend
a
the
City
arborist
and
the
council
and
other
matters
designated
by
Council.
So,
under
the
designation
of
making
recommendations
back
in
August
of
2015,
the
board
decided
that
we
would
look
at
the
canopy.
D
We
will
look
at
the
canopy
with
an
eye
to
seeing
where
it
is
where
it's
not
where
we
have
trees,
where
we
don't
have
trees
with
the
idea
of
making
some
recommendations
to
Council
as
to
what
might
happen
as
a
result
of
no
trees
in
some
area.
One
way
you
can
do
that,
in
my
background,
is
as
a
forester
for
Mead
Midwest
ACO
over
the
years
is
to
look
at
photography
of
trees
and
the
city.
Gis
department
had
great
high-resolution
photography,
which
they
let
us
use
so
at
Roy.
D
Keller
who's,
a
professor
at
CSU
and
also
a
member
of
the
tree
board,
said
that
he
would.
He
would
construct
a
course
to
assess
the
canopy.
I
was
a
member
of
the
course,
as
was
Chris
Kristen.
This
is
also
part
of
her
master's
project.
So
we
looked
at
the
photography,
learn
how
to
analyze,
photography
and
came
up
with
this
assessment,
which
she
will
now
present
after
the
assessment.
I'll
come
back
and
I
do
want
to
mention
that
we
have.
E
Mayor
Tom
listens.
Members
of
the
council.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
present
today
the
findings
of
your
tree
canopy.
We
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
little
bit
on
benefits,
just
to
reiterate
the
importance
of
trees.
Okay,
sorry
and
I'll
be
very
quick
over
these
benefits
economic
benefits.
You
might
have
heard
about
tree
property
properties
increase
their
value.
E
If
you
have
a
tree
that
is
big
and
has
a
large
canopy,
the
closeness
to
parks
that
have
groom
trees
and
bushes
that
usually
increases
the
value
of
properties
as
well
as
shopping,
centers,
attract
more
shoppers
when
they
have
nice,
trees
and
vegetation
to
offer
social
and
health
benefits.
These
are
usually
commonly
known.
Respiratory
issues
are
improved
with
improved
air
quality.
Trees
provides,
but
some
things
that
may
not
be
as
well
known
crime
is
decreased
as
well
as
longevity
of
seniors
improve.
E
E
So
that's
where
our
growth
is
as
our
city,
it's
as
you
can
imagine
this
up
to
the
north,
it's
to
the
east
and
but
there's
not
been
an
assessment
sensitive.
So
ten
years
worth,
there's
not
been
an
assessment
and
enter
the
class
and
the
tree
boards
goals.
The
class
wanted
to
take
the
tree
board
goals
and
make
it
so
that
this
project
doesn't
just
analyze
where
we
are
now
but
offers
a
tool
for
analysis
in
the
future.
So
we
used
this
imagery.
That
is
called
the
nape
or
national
cultural
imagery
program.
E
The
reason
why
we
used
it
it's
free
of
charge.
It
is
flown
every
year
in
areas
that
have
agriculture,
that
is
us
and
it
is
flown
during
the
growing
season.
So
sometime
between
July
and
September
is
flown
over
Columbus
and
because
it
is
free
of
charge
and
flown
on
a
regular
basis,
you
can
use
the
same
analysis
in
the
future
and
2020
and
2025.
If
you
want
to
see
how
our
canopy
has
changed
the
results
of
our
analysis
for
2015
and
2010,
we
have
a
canopy
as
52%
of
our
land
cover
is
tree.
E
E
The
analysis
was
checked
using
1,500
random
points
and
came
up
with
92%
accuracy
how
we
shake
out
between
compared
with
other
southeast
cities,
counties
and
cities.
We
look
pretty
good.
So
if
you
compare
us
with
other
counties
because
we
are
a
consolidated
government,
we
are
right
in
line
with
some.
F
E
Counties
also
in
the
southeast,
but
if
you
look
at
a
breakdown
of
by
track
so
census
track,
it
doesn't
look
as
good.
So
while
we
have
52%
coverage,
it's
not
the
same
throughout
the
whole
area.
You
can
tell
that
just
by
looking
at
the
imagery,
but
how
that
breaks
down
is
our
northern
four
census
tracts.
They
have
most
the
canopy.
They
actually
have
almost
two
thirds
of
the
canopy
for
the
area
where
a
downtown
region
has
the
lowest
percent.
E
The
lowest
percent
is
13
percent
in
the
downtown
area,
where
you
have
the
railroad
tracks,
the
highest
is
I
wish
I
had
a
pointer
but
right
above
Bradley,
Park
area,
so
there
is
a
huge
difference
and
that
one's
out
75%,
so
that's
a
huge
difference
in
tree
canopy
across
the
area
and
what
that
means
for
our
benefits
are
this
benefits?
We
see
that
I
talked
about
at
the
beginning.
You
see
them
right
there,
where
those
trees
are
located.
E
E
In
conclusion,
we
have
a
great
canopy,
but,
as
I
said,
you
can
see
that
it
is
there's
a
disparity
across
the
region,
so
this
analysis
should
be
used
for
future
print
planning
to
look
at
better
places
to
plant
in
the
future
by
the
tree
board
and
by
trees.
Columbus
and
I
have
presented
that
with
them
and
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Bill.
So
he
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
where
they
plan
to
plant.
In
the
future,.
A
D
G
E
G
Of
it
has
changed
over
the
years
too,
because
when
I
think
about
the
subdivision,
I'm
living
in
I
went
to
work
one
day
and
there
were
trees
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
came
back
home
and
cheese
was
on,
but
since
that
time
that's
without
thirty-nine
years
ago,
since
that
time
we
developed
the
plans
we
develop.
We
require
trees
and
put
into
neighborhood
staying
neighborhood.
E
So
there
are
things
we
can
do,
though,
in
the
areas
that
are
developed
and
that
Street
trees,
that
better
planning
for
parks
that
have
retained
the
trees
or
planning
in
those
trees
planning
more
trees
in
those
parks.
There
are
some
areas,
even
though
we
have
it
paved
over
for
our
industry
of
the
area
that
we
can
put
in
more
trees
and
or
other
vegetation.
If
a
transition.
G
G
E
G
D
So
we
have
some
openings
on
the
tree
board.
I
think
she'd
be
an
excellent
addition
to
our
tree
board.
If
I
could
make
that
recommendation,
so
Columbus
has
maintained
our
considerable
tree
canopy.
As
pointed
out
from
2010
to
15,
with
the
imagery
from
the
city.
We
haven't
changed
much.
It's
52%
speaks
well
of
the
City
arborist
Scott
Jones
and
his
efforts
to
replace
trees
and
plant
new
ones
near
schools,
open
spaces
and
where
hormones
have
requested
them
to
be
planted
on
the
rights
away.
Trees
have
benefits
and
follower
values.
D
As
Kristen
pointed
out,
we
need
to
help
Scott's
Department,
add
more
young
trees
along
aging
we're
aging
trees
have
fallen
down
from
wind
storms,
I'm
leading
from
my
agenda.
You
all
have
my
agenda,
I,
hope,
yes,
okay
and
pointing
out
areas
like
lake
bottom
overlooked
in
winter
field
and
lake
bottom
we're
concerned,
because
it's
like
90
year
old,
trees
there
and
then,
when
wind
events
some
get
thrown,
we
need
to
replace
those
before
we
have
no
trees
and
then
start
over
again.
D
So
that's
a
concern
that
we
have
in
the
tree
board
and
Scotts
assessing
that
and
addressing
that,
so
that
may
come
up
again
and
again
on
our
recommendation.
Is
that
council
have
a
tree
plan
developed
to
preserve,
protect
and
enhance
our
valuable
tree
canopy
such
a
plan
could
be
added
that
the
existing
Comprehensive
Plan
for
Columbus
in
Muskogee
County
and
the
tree
board
would
be
honored
to
work
as
a
consultant
or
in
collaboration
with
whatever
firm
counts.
Ccg
might
want
to
develop
this
tree
plant.
So
that's
our
presentation,
thank
you
for
having
us
here.
C
Bill
I
want
to
thank
you
and
the
tree
bulwark
for
all
that
you
have
done
over
the
years
and
in
the
push
to
have
us
to
bring
forward
such
a
plan
in
your
recommendation
here
and
I
know
that
Scott,
Biegler
and
Scott
are
here
and
they're
listening
and
we'll
be
communicating
with
them
about
what
you've
recommended.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
coming
appreciate
it
Thanks.
H
I'd
just
appreciate
everything
you
guys
are
doing
on
the
three
board
and
it's
I
wanted
to
ask
I
know:
Scott.
We
had
the
program
where
residents
can
call
if
they
want
the
proper
trees
planted
along
the
right
away.
We
still
have
that
program.
Active
I,
guess,
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
just
don't
know
about
it,
because
it's
it's
I
mean
you
guys
have
done
an
amazing
job.
I
know
a
couple
of
different
areas
where
they've
planted
them
along
the
right
away
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
such
a
tall
tree
with
such
an
invasive
canopy.
H
I
We're
trying
to
do
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
we're
trying
to
get
what
we
call
the
right
tree
in
the
right
place,
because
over
the
past
years
a
lot
of
large
maturing
were
planted
under
power
lines.
Then
you
get
a
lot
of
georgia,
power,
cuts
and
prunes
that
we're
trying
to
get
the
large
we're
trying
to
get
small
maturing
or
medium
maturing
under
power
lines
and
then
large
maturing
where
they
can
actually
have
their.
I
You
know,
lifespan
without
being
cut,
and
then
we
we
have
to
take
into
consideration
the
the
canopy
size
and
the
width
on
the
roadways.
But
yes,
there
is
strategic
planning.
We
look
at
the
areas
and
kind
of
see
what
is
the
appropriate
tree,
and
then
we
map
that
out
and
try
to
you
know
we
do
the
trees
that
we
plan
every
year
and
then
we
try
to
you
know
carry
that
on.
If
we
don't
finish,
you
know
the
year
before.
What's.
H
A
great
program
and
I
think
that,
particularly
for
the
district
councillors,
as
they
are
in
there,
the
neighborhoods
that
make
up
the
districts
when
they
talk
about
beautification
projects
and
things
of
that
nature.
This
is
just
another
tool.
I
think
that
the
neighborhoods
can
use
to
create
that
sense
of
place
and-
and
it
really
just
takes
a
call,
I
think
two,
three
one
one:
they.
H
I
Then
we
do
our
planning
January
through
March,
so
the
yeah,
it's
open.
We
try
to
plan
anywhere
from
750
to
850
trees
a
year,
so
it
just
is
just
a
call
and
we
need
we're
trying
to
get
it
out
there
more
because
I
mean
citizens
I
mean
a
lot
of,
even
though
it's
been
in
place
for
years.
A
lot
of
citizens
still
don't
know.
Yeah.
H
I
J
Of
the
recommendations
that
bill
made
this
morning
was
that
we
develop
a
tree
plan
to
talk
about
the
what
we
need
to
do
in
Columbus
mr.
city
manager.
What
would
be
the
steps
to
get
that
in
process?
Is
that
something
that
you
need
to
bring
back
to
Council
for
us
to
take
a
action
on,
or
is
this
something
that
we
can
charge?
Keep
Columbus
beautiful
of
the
tree
board
with
our
I'd
like
to
see
something
like
this?
J
F
C
My
intent
counselor
is
to
direct
the
public
works,
Scott
Jones
and
the
Forester
Beautification
Committee
to
work
with
keep
Columbus
beautiful
to
do
exactly
what
has
been
recommended,
and
that
is
to
develop
a
plan
to
preserve,
protect
and
enhance
the
value
of
tree
canopy,
and
they
may
have
already
started
to
do
some
work
they
have,
but
will
once
they
have
completed
their
work.
Working
in
conjunction
with
tree.
The
tree,
borer
didn't
keep
Columbus
beautiful
will
bring
something
back
to
you.
Good.
A
C
Mayor
next
is
a
short
presentation
just
to
give
you
feedback.
At
the
last
council
Business
Council
meeting,
we
had
someone
on
public
agenda
to
talk
about
concerns
in
church
and
forest,
with
flooding
with
new
subdivision
going
in
and
all
and
we
had
staff
to
meet
with
residents
and
go
out
and
take
a
look.
There
were
some
questions
about
an
easement
when
they
talked
at
last
business
meeting
and
so
I've
got
director,
Donna
Neumann
and
for
hard
apple
finally
pocket
here
and
they
are
going
to
talk
about
their
visit
last
week.
K
Okay,
as
the
city
manager
said
last
Wednesday
afternoon,
Ollie
and
myself
and
councillor
Barnes
met
with
mr.
Brogdon,
who
is
the
thermal
wall
of
one
of
the
residents
and
some
of
the
other
residents
on
site.
To
look
exactly
is
what
had
happened
and
what
the
situation
was
with
the
demand
with
the
subdivision.
That's
currently
under
construction,
and
what
we
have
showing
here
is
a
copy
of
an
overlay
showing
where
through
subdivision,
is
going
into
place,
and
this
is
the
residence
they
came
to
Council
with
some
of
their
concerns.
K
K
K
That
was
it
that
is
currently
in
place,
and
this
shows
the
location
of
the
concrete
channel
here
and
you'll
see
that
it
that
captures
runoff
from
a
stream
that
comes
across
making
road
and
capture
some
of
the
drainage
off
of
Macon
Road.
You
can
also
note,
from
this
plan
difficult
to
see.
I
know
that
there
is
a
drainage
easement
that
runs
along
the
back
of
these
properties
that
was
put
into
place
whenever
this
was
developed
and
I
think
we
do
determined
that
was
sometime
in
the
70s
that
this
subdivision
was
developed.
A
K
This
is
mr.
pink
nice
house.
This
is
mr.
Amin's
house
who
I'm
sorry,
it's
not
going
over
far
enough.
This
is
mr.
Evans
house.
That
is
the
father-in-law
of
mr.
Brogdon,
that
was
at
Council,
and
this
is
miss
prayers
house
and
then
I
think
this
lady.
That
owned
this
house
was
here
as
well.
They
did
run
into
a
problem
just
a
general
note.
They
did
run
into
a
problem
with
groundwater.
K
This
is
a
sanitary
line
that
was
tied
in
when
they
were
installing
the
sanitary
line,
so
what
they
actually
did
was
put
in
an
under
drain
system
to
capture
that
runoff
and
tied
into
an
existing
Inlet
right
here
on
Marriott
courts
of
them.
It
was
noted
when
we
were
out
there.
I
walked
along
Mariette
driving
on
up
own
own
to
Deerfield,
and
a
lot
of
these
Lots
had
water
draining
onto
the
curb.
So
there's
a
lot
of
groundwater
in
this
area,
which
is
fairly
common.
K
K
G
I
K
K
K
K
K
This
does
catch
flow
off
of
Macon
Road
and
from
from
public
right
away.
So
that's
the
reason
this
easement
has
been
maintained
through
the
years.
This
is
mr.
Hammonds
house,
which
is
the
father-in-law
mr.
Brogdon.
That
was
here
and
you'll,
see
one
thing
that
we
noted
while
we
were
there
you'll
see
his
rooftops,
and
this
is
part
of
a
head
row
that
he
had.
That
was
all
around
his
house,
so
we
feel
like
and
I
know.
Mr.
Brogdon
said
that
he
was
getting
water.
K
K
This
is
a
picture
of
the
new
subdivision
going
in
and
if
you'll
note
on
the
lights,
they're
draining
back
toward
the
streets
and
the
rooftops
are
draining
back
toward
the
street,
then
it
get
sorry.
It
gets
caught
up
in
the
storm
sewer
system,
that's
in
place
and
drains
to
the
detention
pond.
This
is
a
copy
of
the
detention
pond,
and
that
is
the
outlet
structure
which
then
ties
into
that
same
drainage,
easement
area
that
we
saw
before
this
is
a
copy
of
this
is
what
we
found.
K
F
K
The
berm
and
went
down
through
there-
and
we
think,
that's
probably
when
they
suffered,
that
heavy
rainfall
event
that
they
were
discussing
and
you
can
see
this
is
again
behind
those
houses
in
the
cul-de-sac
still
under
construction.
You
can
see
that
for
the
most
part,
it
has
a
really
nice
permit
here
it
captures
the
water
and
you
can
see
where
it's
been
draining.
We
see.
There's
a
section
here,
that's
getting
loose
and
up
in
here
is
where
that
one
section
got
loose.
K
So
what
we
requested
moon,
a
representative
from
moon,
makes
meth
with
us
out
there
and
they
were
the
design
engineer
and
what
they're
going
to
go
out
there
and
do
hopefully,
today
or
tomorrow,
is
go
out
and
check
the
swirl
area
and
making
sure
that
it's
training
the
way
that
it
should
be
training
and
then
also
making
sure
that
it's
adequate
to
carry
the
runoff
such
that
it
doesn't
get
down
and
get
into
behind
those
Lots.
We
also
made
the
recommendation
to
mr.
K
C
K
K
Deeper
when
it
was
originally
put
in-
and
it's
common
that
over
time,
where
homeowners
don't
maintain
as
well,
that
it
will
gradually
fill
in
just
in
cutting
grass
with
grass
clippings
and
sediment
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
it
is
common
that
it
gets
shallower
over
time.
So
we
suggested
that
they
may
need
to
go
out
and
reestablish
that
swell
to
make
sure
it's
adequate.
Well,.
C
K
Of
course
they
have
to
meet
all
the
standards
of
the
state
and
federal
government
related
to
clean
water
and
erosion
control,
and
thus
the
reason
for
the
detention
pond
and
we
don't
have
a
copy
of
the
erosion
control
plan,
but
there's
a
lot
of
rows
and
control
requirements
that
they
have
to
meet,
and
you
could
see
some
of
the
silt
cents
and
some
of
the
photos,
but
we
also
rated
drainage
and
how
it
affects
the
surrounding
properties.
And
we
review
that
and
they
did
a
drainage
study
of
this.
K
Approximately
six
acres
and
a
majority
of
it
was
going
to
go
to
the
pond
and
ended
up
go
to
the
pond.
But
there
was
a
couple
of
lots
that
you
to
Elevation
were
not
physically
able
to
get
into
the
pond.
So
they
have
to
compensate
for
that
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
increasing
the
runoff
downstream,
and
so
they
have.
A
Let
me
ask
you
a
couple
questions:
I
think:
whenever
we
have
these
issues
about
flooding,
various
flooding
issues,
sometimes
it's
stormwater
sewer
capacity,
sometimes
it's
or
runoff
capacity,
and
sometimes
it's
something
like
this
I
think
the
city
manager's
questions
was
getting
to
where
I
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
one.
So
from
what
I'm
hearing
you
feel
we
have
that
we
properly
assess
this,
even
given
the
top
agra
fee
and
in
the
geographic
variance,
and
then
you
imposed
the
requirements
that
were
necessary.
A
Particular
thing
to
be
done
by
the
developer
and
and
that
everything
we
require
the
developer
did
I
mean
every
that's.
What
we
sign
off
on,
we
go
back
out
and
say
we
required
you
to
put
in
this
outlet.
We
required
you
to
put
in
these
berms.
We
requires
you
to
do
these
things
and
you
go
out
and
check
and
make
sure
they've
done
all
that.
Yes,.
K
K
There's,
not
a
lot
of
inspection
that
goes
on.
There
is
as
far
as
erosion
control,
but
as
far
as
drainage
goes
on
some
of
the
Lots,
and
sometimes
what
happens
is
after
the
construction
of
the
home
is
the
residents
or
the
Builder
may
offer
something?
And
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
go
out
there
and
make
sure
that
what
was
originally
constructed
and
reviewed
and
approved
as
part
of
the
subdivision
was
put
into
place
and
that's
another
reason.
K
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
with
the
survey
that
that
moon
mix
is
doing
right
now
that
that
that
is
still
in
place
and
that
we're
not
creating
a
problem,
not
we,
but
the
developer
is
not
creating
a
problem
for
the
residents,
so
we
do
check
them
and
make
sure
that
whatever
is
reviewed
and
approved
and
designed
by
the
professional
engineers
put
into
place.
Well,.
A
A
We
followed
the
various
city,
ordinances
and
state
laws
and
requirements
to
ensure
there's
no
runoff,
but
that
easement
is
your
property
and
you
must
maintain
it
because
it
seems
like
from
what
I
heard
the
other
night
and
then
from
this
that
they
didn't
appreciate.
The
homeowners
didn't
appreciate
that
they
were
supposed
to
be
maintaining
this
easement,
because
it
is
their
property.
A
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
those
requirements
by
thing.
It's
something
worth
worth
looking
into,
because
you
know
things
like
this
do
happen.
Then
they
come
to
us
and
say
why
aren't
you
maintaining
I
mean
if
I
said
once
I've
said
four
five
dozen
times
to
homeowners,
the
city
doesn't
maintain
that
that
that's
your
property
maintain
and
they
had
no
there's
no
idea.
They've
been
waiting
for
four
or
five
years
for
the
city
crew
to
come
by
and-
and
they
just
didn't
know
they
were
supposed
to
be
so
anyway.
Yes,.
K
Ma'am,
the
challenge
with
that
is
is
twofold:
one
is,
we
are
not
part
of
the
transaction
when
the
homes
are
sold
originally
and
two
is
they
change
ownership?
Over
time,
as
I
said,
the
homes
along
Marriott
Drive
were
developed
in
the
70s,
so
most
of
them,
a
majority
of
them
are
probably
not
the
original
homeowner.
So
even
if
we
had
required
it,
then
that
getting
passed
on
to
the
to
the
new
home.
A
I
was
talking
about
the
the
ones
who
owned
it
when
the
new
subdivision
Linnet,
so
it
would
be.
The
new
subdivision
developer
would
have
to
notify
all
existing
owners
that
they
have
just
concluded
or
they
are
in
the
process
of
or
have
concluded
and
they
have
applied.
They
have
complied
with
all
laws
and
they've
created
an
easement
and
that
it
is
that
other
existing
property
owners
responsibility
to
maintain
that
easement
because
it
seems
like
they
don't
they
don't
understand.
They're
supposed
to
maintain
these
easements.
F
F
L
L
M
A
N
K
N
N
K
N
K
K
K
G
No,
wouldn't
you
say,
oh
you
know
like
we
hit
the
trees
presentation
earlier
and
when
those
houses
look
rid
of
the
house
were
built
before
they
started
developing
the
second
part
of
the
subdivision.
They
had
trees
on
so
I,
don't
think
they
had
in
the
promise
was
flooding
onto
their
prophet
lowers
the
trees
from
there
as
soon
as
they
started,
cutting
trees
down
and
developing
the
subdivision.
That's
when
the
problem
started.
K
But
they
probably
had
did
receive
some
runoff
during
the
initial
construction
of
the
subdivision
before
all
of
the
drainage
system
was
in
place.
Of
course,
they
had
measures
in
place
to
try
to
minimize
that
water
flows
downhill,
so
the
property
owners
of
the
new
development
had
just
as
much
right
to
develop
their
property
as
the
property
owners
on
the
lower
side,
and
that's
why
the
the
easement
was
put
into
place
and
the
swells
were
put
into
place
when
this
was
originally
built.
Now,
sometimes
when
we
have
these
really
intense,
as
mr.
K
Brockman
stated
two
to
five
inches
of
rain,
there's
not
a
whole
lot.
You
can
put
in
place
to
handle
that
kind
of
rain
during
construction.
Now,
as
Ali
was
saying
as
the
the
Lots
are
developed
and
the
drainage
is
put
into
place
for
the
individual
Lots
as
the
grass
starts
taking
shape
and
the
area
becomes
more
stabilized,
then
that
would
minimize
the
amount
of
runoff
that
goes
down
to
those
Lots.
K
G
It
sounds
real
good,
but
when
you
in
your
home
you're
at
the
bottom
of
the
street,
water
runs
in
your
yard
and
it
has
no
other
place
to
the
length
of
the
slab
and
I
know
exactly
what
they're
talking
about,
because
I've
I've
been
through
and
I'm
in
the
house.
Nine
years
and
I
still
have
that
same
problem,
because
when
they
develop
the
properties
around
me,
they
built
for
us.
So
when
it
runs
down,
it's
gotten
the
way
to
go.
Yes,.
K
A
Done
I
know
when
I
ran
into
us
on
Thursday.
Well,
actually
was
a
lady
I
think
we're
telling
me
that
that
most
of
the
neighbors
came
I
think
everybody
that
was
here
that
day
came
is
that
right
and
and
the
son-in-law
could
only
stay
for
a
little
bit,
but
everybody
else
was
there
and
I.
Think
David
of
time
is
it?
Would
it
be
necessary?
A
If
it
seems
to
me
that
if
this
is
not
resolved
to
the
satisfaction
of
all
the
parties,
what
you
have
is
a
private
nuisance
claim
and
I
hate
it
every
time
the
city
is
in
a
position
of
advising
citizens
that
they
need
to
get
a
lawyer
and
so
to
go
and
take
action
against
other
citizens.
I
mean
that's.
That
seems
to
me
to
be
the
worst
case
scenario,
and
so,
if
there's
anything,
we
could
do
to
maybe
meet
with
them
or,
if
you
feel
that's
already
been
done.
A
C
C
J
K
J
J
C
L
C
M
C
An
acute
next
I've
got
in
the
final
topic
is
to
restructure
the
restructure
of
recorders.
Court
got
HR
director,
Rita
Halliwell
here
and
following
this
I
have
a
couple
of
announcement.
Madam
mayor
I
want
our
finance
director
to
just
mention
the
taxpayer
Bill
of
Rights
and
the
public
hearing
for
the
budget
is
coming
up
and
then
I'd
like
one
other
announcement
about
the
Liberty
district
meeting
today
at
5:30
Rita
halle-loo
before.
C
And
typically,
we
like
to
do
that.
We
don't
like
for
them
to
read
stuff
like
that
in
the
news
we
even
do
it
prior
to
our
budget
coming
to
Council.
We
make
sure
we
get
to
department,
heads
elected
officials
so
that
they
don't
hear
things
for
the
first
time
when
it's
announced
here,
but
we
do
it
just
before
we
come
into
council
meeting,
but
we'll
take
that
under
advisement.
Thank.
G
O
Council
vehicle
Tim.
Last
week
we
talked
about
the
restructure
of
the
recorders
court.
We
talked
about
the
senior
judge
position
and
then
the
clerk
of
recorders
court.
So
just
a
review
from
last
week,
the
recorders
court,
as
it's
currently
made
up,
you
have
one
part-time
senior
recorders,
court
judge
and
three
part-time
recorders.
Court
judge
the
part-time
recorders
court,
judge,
Pro
tems
handle
court
in
the
afternoon.
They
conduct
environmental
court
and
they
conduct
Saturday
or
weekend
court.
So
the
recommendation
for
the
judgeship
and
recorders
court
was
to.
O
Hire
a
full-time
senior
recorders
court
judge
and
maintain
three
part-time
recorders,
court
judge
performing
those
same
functions
of
or
similar
functions,
environmental
court
and
the
weekend
and
Saturday
court
and
to
fill
in
for
the
senior
or
the
chief
judge.
That
is
the
recommendation
they
are
currently.
Obviously
we
said:
there's
a
the
part-time
senior
court
judge
and
then
on
the
for
the
clerk
of
recorders
court
at
present.
There's
the
interim
recorders
court,
Mary
love
is
there
so
and
the
recommendation
is
for
a
full
time:
recorders:
court
clerk.
O
There
is
not
funding
for
that
particular
position
previously.
That
position
was
funded
by
the
share
office
and
that
position
has
been
taken
back
to
the
share.
So
there's
not
funding
for
a
clerk
of
recorders
court.
We
did
talk
about
the
court
coordinator
position
that
is
funded
in
the
budget.
The
court
coordinators
position
is
similar
in
functions
as
the
clerk
of
recorders
court.
So
for
your
consideration
and
for
budgetary
purposes,
the
recommendation
was
to
really
fund
a
clerk
of
recorders
court
and
to
unfun
the
court
coordinator
position.
Those
position
would
be
similar
in
pay
and
gray.
C
O
Essentially
the
same
position:
they
perform
the
same
function
in
terms
of
being
the
a
chief
administrative
officer
for
court
recorders
court.
The
duties
are
very
much
similar
in
terms
of
managing
the
staff
being
responsible
for
the
budget
and
those
other
administrative
things
that
the
court
would
need
to
do
in
terms
of
making
sure
the
judge
gets
what
the
judges
get,
what
they
need
in
terms
of
a
docket
preparing
the
docket,
the
all
the
financials
related
to
the
court.
Those
function
are
very
similar:
okay,.
H
You
mayor
pro-tem
I'm,
this
question
is
going
to
kind
of
be
aimed
at
councillor
Thomas,
because
I
consider
you
to
be
one
of
the
primary
experts
on
the
lost.
It
seems
to
me
when
we
were
talking
about
the
impact
on
crime
that
we
hope
to
achieve
through
the
Oh
lost.
It
was
acknowledged
that
by
putting
more
police
officers
on
the
street
and
at
the
time,
contemplating
building
a
bigger,
bigger
jail
or
another
tower
that
we
also
talked
about
the
necess
necessary
increase
in
funding
for
the
judicial
branch
as
well
and
I
know.
H
J
I
think
you're
absolutely
right.
Councillor
Henderson,
that
was
one
of
the
considerations
that
we
looked
at,
was
if
we
have
more
law
enforcement
on
the
street.
That
naturally
will
put
a
heavier
burden
on
our
court
system
and
as
I'm
sitting
here
right
now,
I'm
trying
to
recall
if
we
have
any
recorders
court
positions
being
funded.
O
H
But
here
recently,
when
we're
talking
about
increasing
salaries,
where
we're
signing
in
to
fund
balance
and
and
just
fundamentally
that
that
that
concerns
me,
although
I
think
in
recorders
court,
it's
reasonable
to
assume,
there
will
be
some
corresponding
increase
in
the
fines,
because
we
saw
such
a
precipitous
drop
this
year
because
of
the
uncertainty
there
and
I
know
you.
It
was
mentioned
by
by
mr.
love
the
the
declining
number
of
probationary
cases,
and
some
of
these
things
are
bound
to
increase
that.
P
H
H
P
Sir,
that's
actually
the
difference
in
the
and
the
judge,
I
think
currently
and
recorders
court.
You
have
a
senior
as
misawa
fate
of
a
senior
recorders
court
judge
that
holds
the
morning
session,
and
then
you
have
a
part-time
judge
that
holds
the
afternoon
session.
The
part-time
judge
that
holds
the
afternoon
sessions
receives
benefits,
whereas
the
other
two
part-time
judges
that
holds
environmental
court
and
Saturdays
or
weekend
and
holiday
sessions
do
not
currently
receive
benefits.
P
J
J
I
J
C
Counselor
Thomas,
when
I
talk
to
staff
about
this
and
director
Halliwell
is
absolutely
correct.
That
senior
judge
whole
town
would
take
care
of
both
courts
rather
than
just
moving
in,
and
then
someone
else
or
part-time
takes
care
of
afternoon
and
and
I
share
with
them.
I
see
it
similar
to
the
municipal
court
judge
or
a
Superior
Court
judge
in
terms
of
your
full-time,
and
you
come
to
work
at
eight
o'clock
and
you're
done
at
5:00
and
whatever
municipal
court
judge
is
just
a
judge
or
it's
appear
for
judge.
C
They
know
that
their
full-time
they
stay
there.
The
number
of
hours
required
to
do
whatever
they
got
to
do.
That's
what
they
do
right
now,
those
other
judges,
this
one
would
be,
would
work
full-time
in
a
similar
way
and
and
and
so
I
talked
to
the
interim
clerk
and
and
I
know
that
with
if
it's,
if
that's
what
you
decide
to
do,
I
think
he's
an
agreement
that
you
could
reduce
the
number
of
part-time
judges
if
we
go
with
the
full-time
in
that
way,.
J
C
C
J
J
When
we
would
not
need
a
part-time
judge
in
the
afternoon,
we
would
need
an
environmental
court
judge
and
we
would
need
someone
to
hold
court
on
Saturday
correct.
Yes,
so
if
we
move
to
the
part-time
judge,
we
would
have
a
I
mean
the
full-time
judge.
We'd
have
a
full-time
judge
and
two
part-time
judges.
O
O
Three
part-time
judges
would
hold
environmental
court,
they
would
do
the
Saturday
court
and
then
another
judge
would
fill
in
for
the
Saturday
environmental
and
for
the
full-time
judge.
Just
consider
that
the
full-time
judge
will
take
vacation,
maybe
be
out
sick,
go
to
training
so
and
if
you
have
a
three
part
time
or
two
part
time
is
not
necessarily
a
major
budget
impact,
because
it's
how
you're
going
to
be
using
them.
O
C
J
P
J
M
J
P
J
And
I
don't
know
who
the
proper
person
to
answer
this
question.
But
it
would
seem
to
me
that
if
we
had
a
part-time
judge
who
handles
Saturday
court
that
that
person
could
also
be
the
own
College,
that
their
their
job
would
be
on-call
and
Saturday
court,
so
that
there
would
only
be
a
need
for
two
positions
rather
than
the
three
positions.
Well.
C
C
Appropriation
is,
and
they
work
within
that
budget,
and
they
may
very
well
say
that
my
Saturday
judge
is
going
to
be
the
own
college
to
you,
they'll
tell
you
how
it's
going
to
work.
If
you
decide
that,
that's
what
you
want,
they'll
at
least
recommend
to
you:
here's
how
it
works
and
I
stay
within
my
budget.
J
C
H
I
agree:
I,
think
that
you
know
the
recorders
court
reports
theoretically
directly
to
counsel
and
one
of
the
recommendations
made
by
mr.
Redmond
was
that
we
have
some
type
of
a
group
of
counselors
to
serve
as
not
the
managers
or
the
de
facto
managers,
but
certainly
as
an
intermediary,
so
that
they
can
there's
some
point
of
contact
for
that.
That
chief
judge
and
I
would
like
to
see
that
happen.
We've
talked
about
that
and
I
I.
Don't
think
we
grant
a
lot
of
power
to
this
small
group,
but
it
is.
H
It
is
a
group
that
meets
regularly
with
the
recorders
court
judge
and
I
think
that
this
group
vote
should
vote
on,
who
should
represent
I,
don't
want
to
put
mr.
Garrett
on
the
spot,
but
I
think
he's,
probably,
and
not
that
this
is
any
tremendous
compliment
with
history,
but
you're
the
keenest
legal
mind
outside
the
mayor
on
counsel.
So
I
would
hope
that
we
would
put
people
who
have
some
qualifications
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
understand
some
of
the
issues
that
are
faced
in
that
court.
H
P
H
P
H
H
H
I
think
I
just
want
to
know
what
the
number
is
before
we
bring
any
kind
of
resolution
to
this,
and
I
personally
agree
with
adding
that
that
judge
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
way
for
that
individual
to
maybe
cut
back
on
one
of
the
part-time
judges,
but
I,
don't
know
that
I
think
we
need
to
leave
that
up
to
the
individual
around
the
court.
So.
H
C
C
F
F
H
Q
Q
If
you
get
a
quality
lawyer
who
has
incentive
to
stay
and
to
stay
with
the
city
and
work
with
the
clerk
and
really
make
an
investment
in
this
as
a
career,
not
just
a
temporary
job
and
85,000
a
lot
of
times
like
a
lot.
When
you
have
a
thousand
dollar
student
loan
payments
a
month,
it
doesn't
add
up
to
that
much.
Q
But
I
would
say
we
at
least
give
authority
I
mean
if
you
get
somebody
fresh
out
of
law,
school
you're,
going
to
get
what
you
pay
for
it.
But
if
we
get
somebody
who
is
maybe
been
in
the
public
defender's
office
or
in
the
DA's
office,
you
know
it
gives
them
some
some
incentive
to
stay
with
this
position.
Q
If
we
give
at
least
a
thought
authority
to
pay
for
that
experience
as
far
as
the
part-time
judges
have
it's
kind
of
like,
when
we
have
of
counsel
positions
in
a
law
firm,
it's
called
eat
what
you
killed.
One
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
session,
it's
unless
one
paying
a
benefit,
and
it's
our
best
interest
to
have
a
roster
of
some
folks
who
know
what
they're
doing
who
are
willing
to
come
in.
That's
a
bargain,
every
single
time
they
come
in
there
if
they
get.
Q
If
there's
one
person
who
is
in
violation
of
some
sort
of
ordinance
and
we're
going
to
find,
they
are
more
than
making
their
money
back.
So
unless
there's
a
budgetary
impact
or
if
we
can
find
a
way
to
make
it
where
there's
not
a
budgetary
impact
by
having
it
roster
of
the
of
the
part
times,
I'm,
not
sure
that
there's
a
reason
for
us
to
cut
back
on
that.
So
if
we
can
make
it
where
it's
the
per
session
deal
no
benefits.
Q
You
know
that
I
have
a
problem
with
the
three
part
times,
and
that
gives
us
plenty
of
backup,
but
I
do
think.
We
need
to
have
the
full
full-time
position.
I
think
it's
in
our
best
interest
to
go
in
and
invest
in
that
position.
If
we
can
get
somebody
with
some
experience
who
will
stay
with
us
and
not
leave
us
after
a
few
years.
P
Q
C
J
What
councillor
Garrett
was
saying
about
having
a
roster
of
attorneys
that
would
fill
in
as
the
part-time
judges,
and
perhaps
that
would
be
one
of
the
things
to
say
to
the
full-time
judge.
Is
that
here's
here's
a
pot
of
money
at
one
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
per
session,
and
we
need
to
you
need
to
develop
a
list
of
folks
who
are
willing
to
come
in
and
do
this.
J
It
may
not
be
just
three
people,
it
may
be
seven
people
or
it
may
be
some
other
number,
but
that
as
the
full-time
judge,
that
would
be
part
of
that
responsibility.
And
so,
instead
of
saying
we
authorized
three
part-time
judge
positions.
We
authorized
this
amount
of
money
to
handle
those
court
sessions
and
let
the
full-time
judge
as
part
of
his
or
her
duties.
It
may
be
that
they
use
the
same
person
all
the
time.
J
It
may
be
that
the
same
person
who
handles
environmental
court
can
fill
in
on
vacation
and
do
the
Saturday
court
and
whatever,
but
to
give
that
full-time
judge.
Some
of
that
responsibility,
I,
think,
would
be
one
of
the
things
that
would
do
is
it
would
put
the
full-time
judge
in
charge
of
the
court,
which
I
think
they
now
are
not.
Nobody
seems
to
be
in
charge
of
the
recorders
court
at
this
point,
and
so
maybe
this
would
would
help
to
do
that.
I.
J
Also
with
the
clerk
of
court
and
the
coordinator,
there
are
managerial
responsibilities
that
that
person
would
have
as
well
as
court
responsibilities.
Is
that
true
I
mean
they
would
do
they
would
do
whatever
managerial
work
needed
to
be
done
with
the
other
staff
in
the
court,
as
well
as
overseeing
the
compilation
of
the
docket
and
those
kinds
of
things
is
that
right?
Yes,
they
may
not
actually
do
the
physical
pulling
of
the
docket
together,
but
they
would
be
and
they
would
be
managing
the
person
who
did
that
great.
O
J
A
M
A
R
You
meryt
I
wanted
to
talk
about,
have
a
discussion
about
the
selection
process
and
councillor
Henderson
mentioned
sort
of
an
oversight
group
of
counselors
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
direction
we
want
to
go
or
if
we
would
be
presented
as
a
body
the
list
of
names
and
then
we
could
fit
that
and
select
who
we
want.
From
that
point,
have
you
all
thought
about
that.
C
O
C
R
P
C
Discussion
want
to
hear
from
people
and
their
vision
regarding
the
Liberty
district,
and
so
it's
more
of
like
the
information
gathering
and
that
staff
will
be
able
to
go
back
and
determine
if
we
need
to
tweak
the
old
and
outdated
master
plan
or
start
anew
and
come
up
with
a
new
master
plan.
That
is
what
that
puppet
of
meeting
is
about
tonight
at
5:30,
at
the
Government
Center
index,
first
floor
conference,
room,
4,
2010,
3,
5:30
and.
P
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everyone
of
the
upcoming
budget
schedule
on
next
Tuesday
June
6
at
9
a.m.
in
Council
Chambers
will
have
the
first
of
three
taxpayer
Bill
of
Rights
public
hearings
on
the
next
public
hearing
for
the
tax
code.
Bill
rights
would
be
at
6
p.m.
on
June
6th
that'll,
be
part
of
the
proclamation
facts.
Regular
council
meeting,
also
on
June
6,
will
have
the
first
reading
of
the
budget
ordinance
and
will
advertise.
So
there
be
another
advertisement
in
the
paper.
P
The
five-year
tax,
millage
history
and
the
notice
of
the
taxpayer
Bill
of
Rights
for
the
June
13th
hearing
so
on
June
13th
will
have
another
taxpayer
Bill
of
Rights
public
hearing.
That
will
be
part
of
the
9:00
a.m.
council
meeting,
as
well
as
the
second
reading
of
the
budget
ordinance
and
the
first
reading
of
the
millage
ordinance
and
then
on
June
20th.
P
It's
a
special
called
meeting
at
5:30
and
I'm
going
to
be
the
second
reading
of
the
millage
coordinate
said
when
I
said
another
advertisement
in
the
paper
the
city
published
today
and
an
ad
in
the
paper
announcing
its
intention
to
increase
the
2017
property
taxes.
There's
a
percentage
there
listed
for
you
urban
service
districts,
1,
5,
6
and
7
of
7
percent
of
urban
service
district
to
a
7
percent
increase
in
urban
service
district,
for
a
1%
increase
and
on
what
this
is.
P
C
When
we
say
a
property
tax
increase
or
an
increase
in
the
digest,
as
you've
indicated,
if
you
bought
your
home
and
you're
at
the
time,
you
bought
your
house,
you're
you're
you
are
frozen
and
the
only
way
your
property
tax
would
change
is
that
you
added
a
room
or
two
or
you
did
something
that
caused
an
increase
in
value.
That's
only
way
your
property
tax
would
change.
That's.
P
C
C
Not
because
there
was
a
property
tax
increase
on
someone's
property
who
had
done
nothing
to
their
property.
So
it's
misleading
and
we
explain
it
every
year,
and
so
we
just
want
to
make
its
required
by
the
state
of
Georgia
that
we
advertise
it
in
that
way
and
we
try
and
make
sure
we
provide
some
clarification
to
citizens
residential
colleges.
C
C
Right,
you're
right,
a
primary
tax
freeze
has
to
do
with
residential,
not
commercial,
so
I'm
talking
residue,
that's
correct,
counselor,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
ask
600
new
houses,
you're
going
to
get
your.
You
grown
your
digest
and
we
advertise
it
as
a
an
increase
in
the
digest
and
that's
why
it's
stated
that
way
required
by
the
state
of
Georgia
that
it
be
advertising
that
way
and
so
for
those
out
there
listening.
We
just
wanted
to
provide
some
clarification.
We
have
not
increased
your
property
tax
at
all.
Thank.