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From YouTube: Columbus GA City Council Meeting 03 22 2022
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A
Mayor
skip
henderson
city
manager,
isaiah
hughley
pops,
barnes
district,
one
glenn
davis,
district
2,
bruce
huff
district
3.,
toya
tucker
district
4,
charmaine,
crabbe
district
5.,
gary
allen,
mayor
pro
tem
and
district
6.
mimi
woodson
district
7
walker,
garrett,
district
8,
judy
thomas
post
9
at
large
counselor
john
house
post
10
at
large
counselor
sandra
davis,
clerk
of
council
and
city
attorney;
clifton
fay,
columbus,
georgia.
This
is
your
city
council.
B
B
And
they
seem
to
be
in
a
pretty
good
mood,
we'll
get
to
y'all
in
a
little
bit
we're
going
to
begin
our
meeting
as
we
begin
all
of
our
our
meetings,
and
that
is
by
invoking
god's
presence
on
our
proceedings
and
david
stallion.
Reverend
stallion
is
on
our
agenda
and
he
is
on
his
way
to
the
podium,
welcome,
pastor.
C
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
sir,
let
us
pray
father
of
heaven.
We
are
grateful
for
arriving
to
this
point
of
the
day,
we're
asking
your
blessing
for
the
remainder
of
the
day.
We
thank
you
for
this
counsel
and
his
leadership.
We're
asking
your
guidance
upon
them,
and
we
thank
you
for
the
citizens
that
are
here
and
those
that
may
be
viewing.
C
We
pray
that
all
that
will
be
discussed
and
decided
today
will
be
for
the
betterment
of
this
city,
a
special
prayer
for
our
national
leaders
as
well
as
those
in
ukraine.
We
ask
now
that
you
will
be
in
the
midst
of
what's
going
to
take
place
and
that
all
will
be
in
accordance
to
your
will.
We
ask
it
all
now
in
your
name,
we
pray,
amen,
amen,.
B
Pastor,
thank
you
so
much.
Please
thank
you
church
for
sharing
you
with
us
this
evening.
All
right!
If
you
would
please
stand
and
join
me
in
the
pledge
of.
B
Thank
you,
council.
You
have
the
minutes
from
the
march
8th
meeting
motion
to
prove
from
councillor
tucker
in
a
second
from
who
made
that
say:
counselor
huff.
Are
there
any
edits
or
any
changes
anybody
like
to
make
hearing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
post
all
right.
The
minutes
are
approved.
B
All
right,
we
finally
have
an
update
on
kova.
That
is
actually
hope.
I'm
sorry
hang
on.
I
don't
have
my
mr
city
manager.
D
Miss
mayor,
I
I
really
wanted
to
just
take
the
moment
to
thank
reverend
stallion
and
the
mount
pilgrim
baptist
church.
D
D
And
so
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
reverend
stallion
and
the
mount
pilgrim
congregation
made
that
possible
and
they
are
constructing
their
new
church
facility
and
I
believe
it's
coming
along
really
well,
but
I
just
I
thought
it'd
be
good
to
just
acknowledge
that,
but
for
them
we
would
not
be
having
that
interchange
and
opening
up
that
area
for
all
of
the
possibilities
that
will
come
in
the
future.
As
a
result
of
that.
B
E
To
piggyback
with
the
city
manager,
he's
being
very
modest
and
he's
thanking
everyone,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
voters
for
voting
for
the
t-splost
to
give
us
the
opportunity
to
work
with
mount
pilgrim
to
negotiate
the
deal,
but
I
also
like
to
give
a
public
thank
you
to
the
city
manager
for
working
really
with
us
over
the
past
five
or
six
years
to
try
to
make
a
lot
of
things
come
together.
So
I
want
you
all
to
know.
E
He's
been
involved
with
us
from
the
beginning,
the
mayor,
everybody
here,
and
we
look
forward
to
everything
going
and
pastor
stallion
and
the
members
of
mount
field
baptist
church.
I
was
down
there
like
a
kid
on
sunday,
so
I
took
pictures
sunday
of
the
progress,
so
it's
looking
real
good.
Thank
you.
E
B
You,
sir,
very
very
well
said
all
right:
we,
the
covet
outlook,
is,
is
much
better
than
it
was
the
last
last
several
months.
We've
we've
got
a
hospitalization
rate
right
now
of
about
32
that
have
have
been
admitted
to
one
of
our
area,
hospitals
and
diagnosed
with
code,
but
we've
we're
down
to
three
new
cases,
so
things
are
looking
better.
We
have
opened
up
made,
masks
voluntary
in
government
buildings.
B
We
will
continue
to
monitor
the
hospitalization
rate.
That's
the
key
figure
that
we
keep
an
eye
on,
but
again
every
time
we
give
an
update.
We
we
end
by
thanking
the
people
of
this
community
that
have
worked
so
hard
to
kind
of
not
only
protect
themselves
but
to
protect
their
neighbors
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
your
participation
in
trying
to
keep
columbus
moving
forward,
both
economically
and
from
a
medical
perspective.
B
F
G
The
various
challenges
that
come
with
raising
children
and
the
exchange
club
of
columbus
time
out
teddy
mascot
will
tell
you
to
take
time
out
to
know
your
child.
Take
time
out
to
learn
about
discipline,
take
time
out
to
help
when
you
see
the
warning
signs
and
take
time
out
to
prevent
child
war
abuse.
G
H
Child
abuse
prevention
is
very,
very
important
to
the
exchange
club
and
our
big
timeout
teddy
big
time
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
so
he
sent
his
little
buddy
to
to
let
y'all
know
that
he
is
very
much
ready
to
do
the
role
for
child
abuse
prevention
and
these
little
bears.
H
We
give
them
involved
to
the
police
department,
to
the
sheriff's
department
and
to
the
tree
house
when
they
encounter
a
child
that
has
been
traumatized
in
some
map
form
they
give
them
a
little
time-out
teddy
bear
to
kind
of
you
know,
make
them
feel
a
little
bit
better.
So
we
love
timeout
teddy
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
council,
the
mayor
and
everyone
involved
in
this,
and
we
certainly
appreciate
the
recognition.
H
B
But
we
just
wanted
folks
to
know
your
names,
because
you
guys
do
such
a
great
great
job.
Great
works
with
the
exchange
club
and
the
efforts
that
you
put
towards
stopping
child
abuse
is,
is
just
it's
very
much
appreciated.
H
B
B
B
All
right,
I
don't
know
if
y'all
noticed,
but
we
had
a
local
team
that
did
fairly
well
in
their
state
tournament.
We
want
to
congratulate
the
spencer
green
wave
for
bringing
home
the
state
title.
B
We're
gonna
ask
the
young
men
and
their
coach
to
come
on
up
and
guys
if
you
would
line
up
line
up
on
this
side.
B
E
E
But,
as
was
stated,
as
was
stated
last
night
at
the
school
district
meeting
school
board
meeting
that
you
all
have
exemplified
all
of
the
good
things
that
anyone
could
ask
of
any
young
men
and
everywhere
you
go
you've
gotten
compliments
on
how
well
your
manners
were,
how
well
you
acted,
and
you
represented
spencer,
high
school
in
columbus,
georgia
everywhere
that
you
travel.
So
we
wanted
everybody
to
know
that
and
as
we
go
through
this,
we
also
have
athletic
scholars
involved
in
what's
going
on
and
they've
done
well
in
the
basketball
court.
E
E
E
E
And
whereas
the
team's
statistical
averages
include,
is
it
kyrie
diaz?
Is
that
right?
These
kyrie
dees
team,
captain
12th
grade
averages
2.3
2.3
points
a
game,
2.1
steals
per
game.
Tyson
mcdaniels
11th
grade
averages,
11.7
points
a
game,
7.3
rebounds
2.3
blocks,
tony
montgomery
ninth
grade
averaged
10.3
points
a
what
that?
What
darius
is
that
correct?
E
B
B
All
right
and
counselor,
thomas.
K
It's
always
a
delight
to
be
able
to
recognize
students
in
our
schools
in
muskogee
county
and
especially
students
who
excel
not
only
in
the
classroom
but
on
the
courts
and
guys
we
are
so
proud
of
you.
I
hope
you
can
feel
all
of
that
pride
that
we
have
for
you
tonight.
K
I'm
delighted
to
be
able
to
read
this
proclamation
into
the
record
through
hard
work,
dedication
and
sportsmanship
the
2021-22
william
henry
spencer,
high
school
varsity
boys,
basketball
team
earned
the
school's
first
ever
state
title
with
a
victorious
score
of
62-42
against
the
westover
patriots
in
the
georgia,
high
school
association
class,
4a
state
title
game
on
wednesday
march
9
2022
at
the
macon
coliseum
and
whereas
randall
dixon,
where's
randall
raise
your
hand
up
high
around.
So
they
can
see.
K
K
Whereas
tony
montgomery
only
he's
the
only
varsity
freshman
tony
white
and
spencer,
shooting
guard
scored,
11
points
and
five
assists,
and
whereas
ghs,
a
conference
games,
included
spencer
versus
spalding,
81-42
spencer
versus
north
oconee,
62-35
spencer
versus
doherty,
56-34,
spencer
versus
marius,
4436,
fort
valley,
state
university
state
championship
spencer
versus
westover
6242
at
the
macon
coliseum,
you
guys
are
good.
You
know.
F
K
F
K
And
listen
to
this
folks,
the
win
is
william
henry
spencer,
high
school's
28th
in
a
row
in
the
team's
30
to
22
record
and
the
mayor,
whereas
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
of
columbus
georgia
recognized
the
accomplishments
and
extend
the
deepest
congratulations
to
the
william
henry
spencer,
high
school
varsity
basket,
boys,
basketball
team
and
now
mayor,
skip
henderson
does
proclaim
today
ride
the
wave
championship
day.
Congratulations.
B
It
would
appear
the
toughest
the
toughest
thing
for
you
all
to
do
during
these
games
was
just
making
sure
you
got
to
the
court
on
time,
because
I
didn't
hear
anybody
got
within
20
of
y'all.
That's
listen.
I
know
we
want
to
hear
from
your
coach,
but
we've
got
a
pretty
proud
spencer
graduate
up
here.
Who's
who's
is
about
to
bust
a
button,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna.
Let
our
city
manager
have
a
few
moments.
Well,.
D
Mayor,
I'm
glad
you
did
that,
because
this
is
my
high
school,
my
high
school,
yes-
and
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
congratulate
this
team-
and
I
made
a
note-
it
says
this
team
is
the
truth.
D
D
All
of
the
above
yes,
and
so
I
I
just
simply
wanted
to
say
how
to
you
how
proud
I
am
principal,
freeman
assistant,
principal
patterson,
to
this
team,
all
the
coaches.
D
I
am
so
proud
of
my
school
of
each
of
you
and
I'm
glad
you're
here
tonight,
and
you
know
there
there
will
be
four
signs
that
will
go
up.
That
will
recognize
you,
as
the
4a
state
champion.
D
D
B
E
Ma'am
and
one
last
comment
to
the
principal
you've
been
in
our
prayers
for
a
good
while
now
and
we're
so
happy,
they
brought
you
some
good
news
and
and
we're
happy
that
you've
gotten
through
things.
Well,
if
you
need
anything
from
any
of
us,
I
don't
know
your
story,
but
you
have
been
able
to
function
unbelievably
well
under
these
conditions
and
they
brought
you
a
championship
home
which
I'm
sure
helps
a
lot
so
to
you
and
your
staff.
Everybody,
mr
patterson,
keeps
me
informed
with
everything
that
goes
on,
and
I
appreciate
you.
B
And
gentlemen,
finally,
let
me
just
point
out
that
one
of
the
great
pleasures
of
being
mayor
is,
I
have
the
opportunity
to
represent
and
speak
for
the
entire
city
of
columbus.
So
please
understand
the
words
I
say
they
come
from
me,
but
they
represent
the
feelings
of
this
community.
We
are
proud
of
you.
We
are
proud
of
you
for
your
athletic
success,
but
we
are
really
proud
of
the
young
men
that
you
are
in
the
way
you
represented
your
city.
So
thank
you,
coach.
L
L
It
has
been
an
interesting
year,
but
these
kids,
they
they
called
me
in
before
I,
which
game
was
that
realm
of
y'all
sent
me
the
video
they
called
me
in,
and
mayors
before
the
various
game,
and
they
said
our
motto
is
gonna,
be
do
it
for
doc
and
that
just
really
uplifted
me
and
it
made
me
feel
so
much
better,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
guys.
I
love
you
all
and,
and
we
appreciate
the
city
and
isaiah
and
everything
that
y'all
done.
Thank
you
so
much
thanks.
Thank
you.
B
B
Thank
you
all
right.
We
have
a.
Finally,
we've
got
a
resolution
for
frank
morass,
honoring,
frank
morass,
the
former
president
of
the
hospital
authority
of
columbus
georgia
for
his
service
to
the
city.
B
M
It's
my
privilege
to
publish
this
product
this
resolution,
for
not
only
my
friend
but
a
friend
to
columbus,
georgia,
and
it
reads
as
follows:
whereas
frank
morris
iii,
recently
retired
after
over
36
years
from
service
to
columbus,
consolidated
government
and
the
citizens
of
columbus
georgia,
whereas
frank
was
a
lifelong
resident
of
columbus
having
been
born
on
august,
29,
1960
to
frank,
morris
jr
and
kathleen
morris
early
on
frank
early
on
frank,
was
called
brother
by
and
many
of
his
old
friends
still
call
him.
M
Brother
frank,
grew
up
at
1422
elmwood
drive
and
overlook,
attended,
winton
and
brook
stone
and
graduated
from
columbus
high
school
in
78.
frank,
attended,
both
columbus
state
university
and
georgia
southwestern
university
and
received
a
degree
from
georgia.
Southwestern
university
1985,
whereas
shortly
after
graduation
frank,
began
his
career
with
the
columbus
consolidated
government
in
the
revenue
department
on
february
24
1986,
where,
as
early
in
frank's
career,
frank
lambert
recognized
his
skills
managing
people
in
and
just
so
everybody
knows.
Frank
lambert
was
the
first
city
manager
of
columbus,
consolidated
government,
frank
lambert,
recognized
his
skills.
M
Managing
people
in
finance,
with
his
encouragement,
frank,
began
working
with
the
hospital
authority
of
columbus
georgia
and
the
muskogee
manor
nursing
home
on
july.
17
1995,
whereas
frank
saw
a
need
to
be
a
certified
nursing
home
administrator
and
he
successfully
received
his
licensing
nursing
home
administrator
certificate.
On
august
9,
19
april
9,
1998
becoming
the
first
ceo
to
have
a
nursing
home
license
later
frank
was
certified
to
be
an
instructor,
whereas
frank
had
the
longest
tenure
as
ceo.
M
Georgia
and
his
efforts
are
worthy
of
special
recognition
by
the
council
of
this
incredible
service
to
our
community.
Now,
therefore,
the
columbus
council
of
columbus
georgia
is
here
by
resolve.
We
hereby
express
our
deep
appreciation
to
frank
morass,
former
president
of
the
hospital
authority
of
columbus
georgia
for
his
service
and
dedication
to
the
elderly,
disabled
citizens
of
columbus,
georgia
and
his
contributions
to
the
columbus
community
will
long
be
remembered.
N
Thank
you
I'll
just
say
he
wished
he
could
have
been
here.
He
couldn't
make
it
tonight,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
the
recognition
for
his
service
and
for
the
authority.
So
thank
you
very
much.
K
I
know
that
some
of
us
around
this
table
are
aware
that
may
the
24th,
which
is
a
tuesday,
is
election
day,
and
we
have
council
scheduled
for
that
evening
at
5
30,
and
I
would
like
for
us
to
have
me
perhaps
at
this
time
a
short
discussion
about
moving
that
date.
That
meeting
either
to
we
could
do
it
a
number
of
ways.
We
can
move
it
to
the
the
third
tuesday.
We
could
move
it
to
the
morning
of
the
fourth
tuesday.
We
do
have
a
fifth
tuesday
meeting
in
may
that
we
could.
K
We
could
do
it,
but
I
feel
like
that.
The
the
polls
will
still
be
open
for
another
hour
and
a
half
after
our
meeting
starts,
and
I
just
would
like
for
us
to
consider-
and
perhaps
some
of
the
rest
of
you
have
some
thoughts
about
when
we
ought
to.
K
If,
if
we
ought
to
move
that
meeting
and
if
so
when-
and
I
I
personally
am
not-
you
know-
real
hung
up
on
any
one
of
those
dates,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
the
logical
choices
would
either
be
move
it
to
the
third
tuesday
move
it
to
the
morning
of
the
fourth
tuesday
or
come
make
the
fifth
tuesday
work
session,
a
regular
business
meeting
and
I'd
I'd
like
to
hear
from
some
of
the
other
counselors.
K
If
any
of
them
have
any
thoughts
about
what
we
ought
to
do
and
then
ask
the
clerk
to
bring
us
a
resolution,
perhaps
at
our
next
meeting
to
solidify
that
date.
B
B
M
B
M
F
M
D
B
P
B
P
P
Okay,
all
right
pass
next
item
is
a
zoning
hearing
mayor
we've
got
several
parties
to
hear
from
this
is
going
to
request
a
change
in
zoning
from
residential
estate,
one
to
single
family
residential
four,
it's
a
banana
bay
petition.
This
is
a
zero
old
guard
road
just
to
the
west.
I
believe.
A
veterans
parkway
and
we've
got
planning
department
recommending
denial
planning
advisory
commission
recommended
approval,
subject
to
a
school
and
traffic
study,
and
I
think
mr
austin
gibson
attorney
is
here
with
the
applicants.
Q
Yes,
sir,
my
name's
austin
gibson,
I'm
an
attorney
at
page
screen
scranton
here
in
columbus.
My
address
is
1111
bay
avenue
third
floor.
I
am
here
today
on
behalf
of
banana
bay
llc,
and
I
have
with
me
today
one
of
the
principals
of
banana
bay,
dr
matthew,
thomas
and
then
one
of
banana
bay's
agents.
Q
Q
And
so
this
these
maps
here
should
orient
you
as
to
where
we
are.
You
know
I
guess:
they're
not
quite
zoomed
out
enough,
but
veterans
parkways
are
running
below
this
photo
and
old
guard
road
shoots
up
and
you've
got
the
elementary
school
and
then
the
school
in
picture
is,
I
believe,
veterans
middle
school
there,
and
so
that's
our
property
across
the
street
from
the
middle
school.
Q
It's
currently
on
zone
re1,
which
allows
for
the
development
of
single-family
properties
on
one
acre
or
more
land,
and
we
are
asking
that
the
property
be
re-zoned
to
sfr4,
so
that
we
can
build
on
smaller
lots,
and
I
will
tell
you
I'll
tell
you
why,
as
we
move
forward,
the
the
purpose
of
this
development
is
going
to
be
115.
Q
That's
you
know
going
to
prohibit
a
lot
of
activity
that
you'd
find
in
a
normal
neighborhood
and
then
we'll
also
handle
all
yard
maintenance.
So
the
residents
won't
have
any
yard
maintenance,
the
hoa
mow,
the
grass
put
out
pine
straw,
all
those
types
of
things
and
you're
also
going
to
have.
Q
You
know
certain
amenities
that
would
appear
that
would
appeal
to
the
55
and
over
demographics,
such
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
green
space.
There's
going
to
be
a
clubhouse
and
you
know,
sort
of
a
walk-in
pool
type
thing
and
all
that
stuff.
Q
So
those
type
of
things
should
appeal
to
that
older
demographic
and
mr
bowers
is
going
to
go
into
a
little
more
detail
about
the
specifics
of
the
development,
but
but
generally
the
the
homes
and
development
are
going
to
be
two
or
three
bedroom
homes,
you're
looking
at
1200
to
1800
square
feet
for
each
of
those
homes
and,
like
I
said
they
are
going
to
be
on
this
quarter.
Acre
to
you
know,
in
some
cases,
just
based
on
the
topography,
half
acre
lots.
Q
And
so
as
you
well,
it's
very
difficult
to
see,
but
you'll
see
a
little
black
arrow
pointing
to
that
bluish
area
and
so
for
the
future
land
use
of
this
development.
It
is
going
to
be
in
that
mixed
use
category,
so
in
theory
at
least
this
sfr4
would
fit
into
that
mix.
With
that
mixed
use
that
that
is
projected,
and
so
here
you
still
see
our
site
plan
and
you'll
see
the
roughly
15
or
115.
Excuse
me.
Q
Units
and
you'll
also
notice
that
there,
the
development
is
it's
all
situated
in
one
area
and
that's
for
two
reasons:
one
one
there's
difficult
topography
out
in
that
area.
It's
very
it's
very
hilly.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
rock
in
that
area
that
you
know
really
impedes
construction.
So
you're,
really
only
looking
based
on
this
site
plan
that
we've
got
right
now
on
approximately
30
of
the
58
50
acres
being
used
for
the
development
and
the
remainder
will
either
be
green
space
or
it'll,
be
it'll
remain
as
it
currently
is
just
at
raw
land.
Q
Q
There
will
be
numerous
construction
jobs
in
the
build
out
of
these
115
units,
and
then,
additionally,
there
will
be
there
will
be
jobs
for
maintaining
the
maintaining
the
association
property
as
well
as
you
know,
rental
offices
or
or
leasing
offices,
or
you
know,
selling
offices
and
then
as
well
as
you
know,
manning
the
pools
and
manning
the
you
know
all
the
other
amenities
that
the
association
will
have
to
offer.
Q
We'd
anticipate
that
this
that
this
property
would
increase
the
tax
base
by
approximately
four
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
annually,
and
so
now
I'll
go
into
a
couple
factors
or
issues
that
that
have
arisen
relating
to
this
in
our
response
to
those
issues
primarily
the
well.
Let
me
address
one
briefly
at
our
pac
hearing.
Q
We
heard
from
the
school
district
that
they
had
a
couple
of
concerns
regarding
the
development,
one
being
school
impact
and
the
second
being
traffic,
and
so
just
to
address
the
first,
very
briefly,
with
the
55
and
over
community
you're
not
going
to
have
the
number
of
students
in
the
schools
that
you
would
expect
in
a
normal
residential
subdivision.
That
being
the
case
because
they
are,
they
are
55
and
over,
and
then,
additionally,
that
the
that
they
are
two
and
three
bedroom
properties.
Q
So
there's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
extra
room,
for
you,
know
nieces
and
nephews,
grandchildren,
those
types
of
things
to
come
in
and
live
with
them,
and
you
know
based
on
based
on
u.s
census
data,
which
is
the
most
accurate
data.
You
know
we
can
find,
and
it
is
nationwide
data
not
specifically
to
columbus
we'd,
anticipate
that
they're
based
on
this
development.
There'd,
be
you
know
at
the
most
10
students
that
would
come
into
the
school
of
cinematic,
just
based
on
the
statistical
data.
Q
And
so
then
that
brings
me
to
traffic,
which
is
the
big
ticket
item.
If,
if
you've
been
out
on
old
guard
road,
you're
aware
that
you
know
there
are
three
schools
within
that
quarter,
mile
area
and
it's
it's
an
area
of
big
development
right
now,
it
seems
like
all
of
columbus
is
kind
of
moving
towards
that
north
north
end
of
town.
Q
We
we
met
with
a
traffic
engineer
and
got
that
priced
out,
and
you
know
to
be
frank
with
you:
it
was
going
to
cost
between
20
and
25
000
to
do
that,
traffic
study
and,
from
speaking
with
the
traffic
engineer,
the
school
district,
the
planning
department,
I
think
ever
I
won't
speak
for
anyone,
but
I
think
the
general
consensus
is.
We
know
what
the
traffic
study
would
say.
Q
So
in
meetings
with
the
school
district
we
you
know,
we
tried
to.
You
know,
work
towards
a
solution
and
unfortunately
we
we
weren't
able
to
get
there.
We
couldn't.
We
couldn't
really
do
anything
that
would
address
their
concerns,
and
mainly
that's
because,
let's
see
so,
this
is
more
of
a
zoomed
out
picture
there
and
it's
it's.
You
see
how
far
I
had
to
zoom
out,
but
our
property
is
generally
where
that
red
star
is
and
you'll
see
that
it's
other
than
old
guard
road.
Q
It's
completely
landlocked,
it's
surrounded
by
the
vulcan
quarry
some
property
owned
by
georgia
crown
and
then
the
woodruff
property,
of
course,
is
to
the
old
town
and
those
that
developments
over
to
the
to
the
left-hand
side
of
this
photograph.
Q
So
in
discussions
with
the
school
district,
they
they
asked
that
in
order
for
them
to
to
not
oppose
our
reasoning,
they
requested
that
we
provide
the
additional
access
off
old
guard
road,
so
in
other
words,
that
would
be
extending
old
guard
and
I'll
go
back
to
the
prior
slide.
So
we
can
see
you'll
see.
Olgar
makes
that
left-hand
turn
there
towards.
Q
You
know
in
front
of
the
middle
school
and
then
towards
that
construction
area,
which
is
the
new
grace
zone
development
out
there,
and-
and
you
know,
we
couldn't
find
any
solution
that
would
work
because,
like
I
said
this
property
is
landlocked,
it's
surrounded
by
private
property.
There's
there's
no
there's
not
going
to
be
any
easy
way
to
get
an
additional
access
point
for
old
guard
road
to,
in
other
words,
connect
to
either
fortson
road
or
woodridge
road.
Q
It's
just
you
know,
you're
half
a
mile
to
a
mile
away
and
that's
through
private
property,
a
railroad
and
as
well
as
a
quarry.
So
you
know
it
to
do
something
like
that.
It
would
require
require
the
city
government
to
condemn
some
land
and
then
it
would
also
require
you
know
millions
of
dollars
in
investment
to
pave
a
road
such
as
that.
So,
while
I
understand
that
you
know
the
safety
concerns
and
the
traffic
concerns
that
the
school
district
has
it's,
you
know
the
traffic
out
there.
I
think
you'd
agree
with
me.
Q
If
you've
been
out
there
is,
is
there's
already
substantial
traffic
out
there,
and
none
of
that
is
related
to
any
development
out
there.
Currently
there's
two
schools
and
one
residential
property
on
old
guard
road.
So
so
I'd
you
know
submit
to
you
that
the
traffic
problem
is
not
one
that
this
development's
gonna
cause.
Q
The
traffic
problem
is
one
that's
already
there,
based
on
the
schools
and
there's
georgia
law
distinguishes
between
what
they
call
project,
improvements
and
system
improvements
and
in
a
rezoning,
a
rezoning
can
be
conditioned
on
project
improvements,
which
would
be
something
like
you
know,
put
in
a
roundabout
at
your
development.
Excel
diesel
lanes.
Add
a
red
light,
an
emergency
access
point,
some
of
those
type
things,
but
the
law
doesn't
allow
and
it's
actually
unconstitutional
to
require
a
developer,
to
make
system
improvements
to
a
piece
of
property
and
what
a
system
improvement
is.
Q
Is
a
property
or
excuse
me,
an
improvement
that
benefits
the
system
in
that
area
as
a
whole.
So
in
other
words,
you
know
creating
a
new
access
point
for
all
the
excess
traffic
from
traffic.
That's
not
necessarily
related
to
your
development.
That
would
be
a
system
improvement
and
it
so
it'd
be
an
unconstitutional
request.
I
believe-
and
in
addition
it's
just
strictly
practically
impossible,
so
that
that's
where
we
are
with
with
the
traffic.
Q
It's
important
to
note
that
in
the
planning
department's
report,
I
know
we're
going
to
hear
from
them
in
just
a
moment,
but
the
traffic
before
this
development
was
was
at
level
b
and
after
this
development,
the
planning
department
says
it's
still
going
to
be
level
b.
So
in
other
words,
in
other
words,
the
traffic
classification
level
is
not
going
to
change
based
on
this
development.
So
I
so
I
don't.
Q
And
so
finally,
I
know
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
you
know
already.
Zonings
are
like
this,
but
this
one
particularly,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
a
delicate
balancing
act
of
you
all.
You
know,
balancing
the
you
know
the
legitimate
traffic
and
safety
concerns
that
the
school
district
has
versus.
You
know
this
rezoning
and
the
benefits
and
improvements
of
that
rezoning.
Q
So
I
just
appreciate
you
all
remembering
some
of
the
points
that
we
raised
here
and
then
additionally,
I'm
going
to
have
mr
bowers
come
up
and
he's
just
going
to
very
briefly
show
you
a
few
slides
and
just
talk
very
briefly
about
about
the
development
as
a
whole.
Thank
you.
R
All
right
good
evening,
council
members,
mr
city
manager,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
all
for
your
time,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
as
brief
as
I
can,
but
I'm
pleased
to
propose
a
115
unit,
age-focused
gated
community,
on
50
acres
located
on
old
guard
road
in
district
2..
With
this
community,
we
are
seeking
to
provide
the
active
adult
population
of
columbus
with
an
age
tailored
high
quality
product
and
the
rapidly
expanding
north
columbus
market,
something
which
is
desperately
needed
in
this
city.
R
R
When
differentiating
between
the
different
senior
categories
or
life
stages,
they
can
be
broken
down
into
three
distinct
groups:
gogo
slogo
and
nogo.
We
aim
to
serve
the
gogo
senior
group.
These
are
the
active
adults
who
are
over
the
age
of
55
who
are
not
in
need
of
healthcare
based
housing
or
meal
services
in
the
columbus
active
adult
housing
sector.
It's
important
to
note
that
virtually
all
of
the
housing
in
the
senior
space
is
either
traditional
for
sale,
housing
in
a
non-age
focused
community,
nursing
homes,
apartment
buildings
or
income,
restricted
housing.
R
None
of
these
options
would
meet
the
needs
or
be
acceptable
to
the
individuals
we
look
to
serve.
We
seek
to
provide
an
option
to
those
in
the
55
plus
age
group
who,
for
any
number
of
reasons
prefer
to
stay
in
a
home
environment,
would
prefer
to
conserve.
Capital
are
not
looking
to
invest
in
a
forever
home,
would
like
something
new
and
modern
to
avoid
maintenance
and
to
live
in
a
quality
age,
tailored
single
family
community,
not
an
apartment
building.
R
So
the
choice
until
now
has
been
to
make
a
substantial
financial
investment
or
move
into
an
apartment.
We
want
to
provide
a
new,
better
option
in
the
columbus
55
plus
or
senior
age
group.
There
are
approximately
48
000
individuals
which,
when
considered
as
one
is
one
of
the
largest
demographic
groups
in
the
city,
yet
they
remain
critically
underserved
with
quality
active
adult
housing.
R
R
According
to
the
u.s
census,
approximately
six
percent
of
seniors
who
have
school
age
or
do
have
school-age
children
living
in
their
home.
Based
on
these
numbers,
it
can
be
expected
that
an
active
adult
community
consisted
of
consisting
of
roughly
115
households,
could
add
approximately
10
children
to
the
local
school
burden.
As
austin
said
earlier.
Additionally,
our
marketing
and
floor
plan
selection
will
be
targeted
toward
individuals
who
do
not
have
children.
R
Also,
our
amenities
selection,
which
I
will
cover
shortly
as
well
as
our
hoa
compliance
rules,
will
be
strictly
targeted
toward
go,
go
seniors
and
would
not
be
attractive
to
a
family
of
school-aged
children
based
off
conversations
with
traffic
engineers.
A
neighborhood
of
this
side
size
would
generate
an
expected
100
car
trips
per
day.
R
R
Lastly,
as
far
as
traffic
is
concerned,
the
issues
present
on
old
guard
road
are
primarily
confined
to
the
center
turn
lane
during
school,
pickup
and
drop-off
times
only
while
the
travel
lanes,
which
our
residents
would
be
the
ones
using,
will
remain
unrestricted
for
travel.
It
is
anticipated
that
most
residents
in
this
neighborhood
will
not
have
school-aged
children
and
therefore
will
not
be
trying
to
access
the
school,
pickup
and
drop-off
line
and
adding
to
these
or
adding
to
the
backup
during
these
times,
just
a
little
more
on
the
homes
we're
going
to
have
in
the
neighborhood.
R
The
homes
in
this
proposed
development
will
range
from
approximately
1200
square
feet
to
over
1800
square
feet
and
will
be
built
to
class.
A
high-end
design
and
quality
specifications
throughout
most
homes
will
have
a
two-car
garage.
Smaller
units
will
have
a
one,
and
homes
will
include
such
features
as
nine
plus
foot
ceilings,
open
floor
plans,
private
patios
and
or
screen
porches
granite
or
similar
countertops
deluxe
appliances
and
fixtures,
and
a
combination
of
wood
style
and
carpeted
floor
areas.
R
Our
common
area
features
include
a
zero
entry,
saltwater
pool,
multiple
pickleball
courts,
a
large
communal
patio
with
barbecue
grills,
walking
trails,
a
dog
grooming
station
dog
parks,
open
green
spaces
and
rotating
exterior
art
and
sculpture
exhibits.
This
community
is
sorely
needed
in
our
growing
city
by
a
large
number
of
its
citizens
and
will
fulfill
unnecessary
service.
R
R
R
As
mentioned
earlier,
a
new
service
retiree's
options
are
to
make
a
substantial
financial
investment
or
to
move
into
an
apartment.
This
is
not
a
possibility
or
acceptable
for
many
of
the
new
service
members
or
newly
retired
service
members,
so
they
choose
instead
to
leave
columbus
and
move
elsewhere
so
that
their
needs
can
be
met.
B
Thank
you,
mr
bowers
councillor,
garrett.
O
I
was
just
going
to
speak
because
I
do
have
personal
knowledge
of
this
since
my
wife's,
the
administrator
at
spring
harbor.
They
I
mean
this.
This
market
is
continuing
to
grow,
and
what
I
like
about
this
is
that
it's
something
different
than
the
other
facilities
are
offering
and
plus
it's
kind
of
creating
like
a
cluster
in
north
columbus,
that's
around
the
va
area
for
the
military
folks
and
also
within
short
driving
distances
or
restaurants,
for
the
people
who
are
independent,
but
I
mean
I
really
like
the
idiots.
O
I
think
it's
something
different
from
what
I've
seen
and
I
just
just
based
on
my
personal
experience
from
my
wife's
career.
It's
it's
certainly
something
I
think
columbus
could
support.
S
B
S
You
mayor,
I,
you
know
it's
a
very
interesting
concept
and
I
will
say
that
there's
been
much
request
and
much
need
for
a
retirement
community,
that's
being
proposed.
I
haven't
seen
a
design
like
this
in
a
long
long
time
matter
of
fact,
a
lot
of
what
you're
seeing
in
the
retirement
community
and
people
don't
really
think
about
it
as
economic
development.
But
it
is
it's
one
of
the
biggest
economic
development
engines
that
that
you
can
have
in
a
community
because
retirees
have
income
coming
in
and
they
spend
a
lot
of
money
within
communities
right
now.
S
One
of
the
largest
retirement
communities
in
the
state
of
georgia
is
harris
county.
So
having
a
concept,
that's
attractive,
that's
being
presented,
and
there
are
a
few
that's
in
the
district
I
represent
and
they're
sold
out.
I
mean
anytime,
a
for
sale
sign
goes
up,
they're
they're
off
the
market,
people
tend
to
like
them
and
there's
not
enough
and
people
ask
for
them,
especially
a
gated
community,
which
that's
what
I'm
recognizing
here.
But
in
saying
that
I
know
there's
some
some.
S
I
guess
some
obstacles
that
could
be
or
perceived,
obstacles
that
need
to
be
kind
of
talked
through,
and
I
think
that's
fine
to
do
that.
I
will
say
I
look
at
this
as
a
very
defined
development.
I
mean
it's
not
like
complex
enough
that
you
got
to
figure
it
out.
It
is
what
it
is,
and
I
like
it
from
that
standpoint,
and
I
also
recognize
that
there's
just
a
few
parcels
of
land
there
and
the
road
is
what
it
is.
The
land
is
what
it
is.
S
S
Let's
just
call
them
empty
nesters
or
the
retirement
community,
but
you
tend
to
go
with
a
larger
house
and
a
larger
footprint,
a
larger
development
there's
going
to
be
more
children,
more
cars,
more
you
got
to
look
at
it.
You
know
how
it's
kind
of
how
it
all
kind
of
plays
out.
So
you
when
I
say
when
I
talk
about
a
defined
development,
that's
kind
of
what
I
mean
I
will
mr
bowers.
I
would
like
you
to
consider
and
I'm
actually
going
to
request
it.
S
I
hope
it's
going
to
be
okay
with
you,
but
one
of
the
things
we
deal
with
with
these
developments
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
citizens,
because
what
is
being
proposed
you
know,
is
very
attractive
and
council
sometimes
makes
their
decisions
on
what's
being
proposed.
But
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
things
change.
S
And
sometimes
it
goes
in
a
different
direction
and
you
get
a
whole
different
new
development,
or
something
else
goes
there
that
wasn't
talked
about
before
and
when
we
give
these
approvals
on
reasoning
that
could
happen.
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
this
development.
What
attracts
me
is
exactly
what
you're
proposing,
which
I
think
sets
it
different
again
defined
from
all
these
other
developments
that
are
out
there.
S
I
would
like
to
put
a
condition:
ask
you
to
accept
a
condition
that
this
proposed
development
be
based
on
the
site
plan,
be
depo,
that
it
would
be.
S
As
proposed
on
the
floor
plans
and
the
elevations
that
you
are
presenting,
in
other
words,
everything
you're
presenting
and
you're
telling
us
that's
the
condition
I
want.
If
it
changes,
then
it
goes
back
to
a1
and
it
has
another
opportunity
for
a
public
hearing
and
I
think
that's
the
right
thing.
I
just
think
that's
the
responsible
thing
in
our
community
and
we
do
that
here
and
there
a
lot
of
us
call
it
a
reversionary
clause,
but
we're
always
told
by
the
city
attorney
not
to
do
those
kind
of
things.
S
So
you
add
it
in
as
a
as
a
condition,
and
I
think
what
I'm
doing
here
is
your
site
plan,
what
you're
proposing,
which
is
a
development
that
has
buffers
all
around
it
that
has
a
gated
community.
It's
it's
all
laid
out
in
section.
That
is
the
plan.
The
site
plan,
your
elevations,
your
designs,
that
you
just
laid
out
your
floor
plans.
Those
are
the
conditions
and
if
you
change,
you
know
we'll
have
to
rework
these
things
out.
I
think
there's
some
latitude
that
you
can
work
with
your
development.
S
S
Let
me
let
me
let
me
just
say
this:
I
had
another
development
that
came
into
the
district
several
years
back
and
I
asked
the
same
request
and
the
developer
is
following
through
a
matter
of
fact.
I
think
it's
a
developer
that
lives
right
there
off
of
old
guard
road,
okay
and
he's
doing
it
and
he's,
I
believe,
he's
doing
it
off
a
river
road
now
and
we
put
the
conditions
on
there
that
he
would
stay
with
the
site
plan
with
the
concepts
that
was
laid
out
and
he's
following
through
with
it.
S
So
it's
the
same
request.
It's
not
like
I'm
asking
something
different,
but
I
do
this
to
protect
the
residents
in
the
area
or
at
least
to
give
it
another
chance
to
have
a
public
hearing,
because
I
do
agree
if
it
does
change-
and
it
goes,
let's
just
say
it
goes
back
to
a1
or
some
other
concept
you
may
have
to
re-look
at
the
the
impact
on
it
from
that
standpoint,
so
it
just
gives
a
an
opportunity
to,
and
I
think
that's
good.
I
think
that's
good
government.
Q
Sure-
and
we
we
don't-
we
don't.
We
have
any
opposition
to
doing
that.
My
only
request
would
just
be
that
we
just
have
enough
leeway
that
as
we
go
through
the
engineering
phase
and
all
that
that
we
can
accommodate
whatever
engineering
wants
us
to
do
so,
in
other
words,
if
they
say
this
lot
won't
work
here,
but
you
can
move
it
over
here.
You
know,
I
think,
having
that
flexibility.
Q
S
Agree
with
you,
a
hundred
percent
and
I
think
they're,
you
know
they're
gonna
call
the
shots
on
that
so
they'll.
You
know
you'll
have
to
make
some
adjustments
here
and
there,
but
for
the
most
part
it
will
be
the
floor
plans
of
design
and
what
you're
trying
the
elevations
and
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
there.
Q
S
I'm
good
with
that.
Thank
you
sure,
thanks
for
entertaining
it
sure.
K
T
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
members
of
council,
let
me
let
me
start
off
by
saying
to
you.
First
and
foremost,
we
have
nothing
against
really
this
overall
development
itself.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
trying
to
talk
into
this
thing
the
best
I
know
how
we
don't
have
a
real
concern
in
terms
of
the
overall
development.
T
They
are
to
be
commended
in
terms
of
what
they're
trying
to
achieve
here
in
the
market,
they're
trying
to
strive
for
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that,
but
we
can't
make
a
recommendation
to
this
body
if
we
don't
have
the
right
information
to
make.
That
recommendation
to
you
case
in
point
is
traffic.
If
we
can
turn
the
overhead
on
just
for
a
second
here,
and
it's
on,
you
may
have
to
focus
that
thing
in
a
little
bit
for
us,
john,
you
can
and
you're
getting
there.
T
There
you
go
john
that
works
right.
There,
bring
it
back
out,
just
a
little
bit
more
bring
it
out
that
work,
that
does
that
does
a
good
job
right
there.
What
I
want
to
show
you
here
is
what
we're
up
against
as
a
community
here
now
as
council
members
and
as
as
planning
staff,
and
so
we're
up
against
here.
Right
now,
you've
got
as
they've
already
said.
There
are
three:
there
are
three
schools
out
there.
T
Three
major
schools,
basically
you've
got
a
high
school,
you've
got
a
middle
school
and
you
also
got
an
elementary
school
both
of
that
middle
school
and
elementary
school
sit
right
there
at
the
end
of
old
guard
road.
From
that
standpoint,
we're
seeing
an
awful
lot
of
development
pressure
happen
out
in
this
area.
We've
got
potential
for
another
grocery
store
out
there
on
veterans
itself
and
john.
T
If
you
go
back
to
the
thing
point
for
me
right
there
at
the
southwest
corner
of
old
guard
and
and
and
bedrooms
there
well,
I
can
do
it.
I
guess
I
can
do
it
here
on
this
thing
here
as
well.
Excuse
me,
I'm
sorry,
john
I've
lost
my
thought.
Here's
a
second
hold
on.
T
All
right,
let's
try
this
again
right
here.
We've
got
a
development
underway
right
now
today
for
a
rehab
hospital
to
go
into
that
site.
That's
an
area
that
we've
got
to
deal
with
and
so
forth
in
terms
of
looking
at
things.
So
what.
K
Is
what
is
that?
Where
is
that
located
right
here?.
T
T
I'll
try
and
just
find
it
here.
You
got
you
got
base,
you
got.
You
got
shaw
here,
north
side.
I'm
sorry,
excuse
me
north
side,
then
you've
got
you've,
got
the
middle
school
here
and
you've
got
the
elementary
school
that
sits
right
there
at
the
end
and
that
and
that
that
concern.
So
you
got
that
lego.
T
The
other
thing
you've
got
going
on
as
well,
though,
and
I'll
show
you
again
on
this
on
this
side
on
this
side
of
the
property
there
at
old
garden
veterans
is
opportunity
for
mixed
use
development
to
occur
at
that
site.
T
I
think
I
think
I
can
speak
for
most
of
us
in
this
room
that
yeah
we
do
drive
and
we
we
do
get
in
our
cars
and
we
do
go
places
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
try
to
convey
to
you.
This
thought
is
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
we
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we
have
accommodated
for
everything
out
there.
We
we
go
through
this
whole
process.
T
What's
what
it's
going
to
take
to
do
this,
and
so
it's
all
due
diligence
on
our
part
from
the
planning
department's
part
to
make
sure
we
have
all
the
information
we
didn't
get
all
the
information,
and
we
can't
make
a
recommendation
to
approve
this
for
you
even
with
conditions
or
anything
else.
You've
also
got
to
remember,
also
john,
go
back
to
that,
what
you
will
and
kind
of
kind
of
zoom
out
one
more
time
for
me.
T
In
fact,
if
you
will
there's
an
aerial
on
that
on
that
map
slide
over
to
the
area
right
there,
this
gets
better.
This
gives
a
better
representation
really
of
out
there.
This
this
area,
we've
shown
here
site
this
area
right
here,
though,
are
the
apartments
council
approved
back
in
2018
that
are
actually
under
construction.
T
Today,
it's
going
to
put
it's
going
to
put
a
tremendous
load
on
that
on
that,
as
well
involved
with
all
that.
We
got
also
some
development
concerns,
also
on
the
north
side
of
old
guard
between
veterans
and
this,
this
this
piece
of
property
as
well.
That
folks
are
either
going
to
come
in
there
with
single
family
homes
and
build,
or
we
may
have
another
development
of
this
type.
T
You
don't
need
that
many
lots,
I
mean
it
makes
economic
sense.
I
agree.
I
agree
with
that,
but
maybe
it's
better
to
scale
that
back,
so
you
can.
We
can
accommodate
the
traffic
for
it
again.
I
don't
know
that
without
that
study
and
that's
the
reason
we
denied
it
and
that's
why
we're
asking
your
for
your
consideration
on
this
as
well.
T
B
U
So
I'm
ward
odom,
I'm
the
senior
director
of
facility
maintenance,
interim
director
of
construction
from
second
county
school
district.
First
of
all,
at
the
school's
growth.
I
want
to
say,
first
of
all,
we
celebrate
growth
in
the
school
district
because
all
the
children
we
have
and
we
have
plenty
of
room.
So
that
is
what
we
celebrate,
and
that
is
not
our
concern
at
this
place.
U
The
traffic
flow
on
that
on
that
road
is
what
we're
really
concerned
about,
and
that's
what
the
we
want
to
see
the
study,
along
with,
to
see
how
it
was
the
the
schools
when
we
acquired
them
were
developed
under
the
zoning
that
they
are
currently
and
the
traffic
was
based
on
that,
and
we
just
want
to
see
what
it
will
look
like
with
a
change,
and
that
is
what
our
concern
is.
K
I
went
out
there
this
afternoon
and
it
was
after
the
schools
had
dismissed
no
traffic
whatsoever.
It
was,
it
was
beautiful,
but
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
parents
and
grandparents
who
go
out
there
during
pickup
time
from
those
schools,
and
you
can
sometimes
hardly
get
through
there
because
of
the
traffic
that
that
is
a
concern
to
me.
One
of
the
other
concerns
to
me,
and
and
mr
jones,
you
may
be
able
to
answer
this:
the
apartments
that
are
being
built
abutting,
this
property.
How
many
apartments
are
those
are
up
there.
T
Counselor,
thomas,
I'm
afraid
I'm
not
a
good
source
for
you
on
that.
I
I
don't
have
a
number
in
front
of
me.
All
I
can
say
is
a
book
who
of
them
right
now
being
built
out
there.
I
mean
it's
when
I,
when
I
wrote
there
about
months
so
ago,
to
look
see
how
what
kind
of
progress
they
were
making
I
was.
I
was
just
amazing.
The
apartments
were
actually
going
in
there.
K
One
of
my
concerns
with
the
apartments
and
with
this
facility
is
that,
right
now
on
old
post
road,
I
mean
not
old,
post
old
guard
road.
There
are
no
sidewalks
so
that,
if
kids
are
coming
from
those
apartments
or
by
chance,
the
ten
that
you
mentioned
living
in
this
community
are
going
to
those
schools.
K
There's
there
are
no
sidewalks
and-
and
that
would
be
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
want
to
see.
If
we
approve
this,
this
rezoning
is
to
make
sure
that
there
is.
There
are
sidewalks
along
that
road,
so
that
people
can
get
in
and
out.
K
Mr
jones,
I've
forgotten
if
it
was
mr
gibson
or
who
talked
about
a
level
b.
K
T
You'll
see
it
you'll
see
it
in
our
staff
report.
We
do
it
every
time
we
do
it.
We
do
a
basically
a
land
use
analysis
of
in
terms
of
what
the
land
itself
will
will
generate
in
terms
of
traffic,
and
we
also
tell
you
what
the
what
the
road
classification
is
for
for
that
particular
road.
A
a
is
basically
just
white,
is,
is
there's
five
different
characters.
It
runs
a
to
f
a
is
basically
wide
open.
You
stand
in
the
middle
of
the
road.
T
Never
get
hit
by
a
car
f
means
it's
a
parking
lot,
because
you
can't
move
in
this
case
it's
running
at
a
b,
but
we
do
that
for
everything,
okay
and
that's
fine,
but
with
everything
else,
we've
got
going
on
out
there
in
terms
of
all
the
development
that
is
occurring.
T
We
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
another
potential
problem
in
in
this
development
because
there
are
going
to
be
other
developments,
we're
going
to
have
to
say,
do
the
same
kind
of
analysis
and
so
forth
with
them,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
that
problem.
But
again,
I
can't
tell
you
that
without
that
information,
and
without
that
study,
I
just
can't
give
it
to
you.
K
I
I
also
until
these
apartments
and
if
this
subdivision
goes
in
there,
I
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
residential
residences
in
that
area.
Right
now
is
that
from
old
old
guard
down
to
veterans.
T
K
I'm
just
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
traffic
and
you
know
given,
as
I
said
at
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
there
is
no
traffic,
but
it
as
I
understand
it,
from
about
1
30
to
about
3
30,
it's
difficult
to
get
through
there
and
because
of
the
traffic
and
because
of
the
those
it's
a
three-lane
road,
but
it's
it's
still
difficult
to
to
maneuver.
So,
whatever
it's
going
to
take
to
to
respond
to
that,
I
I
would
be
very
interested
in
hearing.
S
Thanks
mayor-
and
I
wanted
I'm
glad-
the
the
school
district
has
come
up
to
share
their
concerns.
Let's
just
talk
about
that
for
a
minute.
S
You've
got
land,
that's
already
rezoned
there
and
we
have
been
dealing
with
a
traffic
problem.
Mayor
henderson
you
and
I
have
worked
on
this
many
many
years.
We
finally
got
the
improvements
out
on
veterans,
parkway
and
got
done
with
the
turning
lanes
and
all
but
look
you
got
three
schools
there
and
the
traffic
is
what
it
is.
That's
not
going
to
change.
S
S
I
don't
do
schools,
but
I
know
that
that's
where
progress
is
going
and
it's
moving
in
that
direction,
and
I
would
have
to
say
that
the
school
district
needs
to
start
looking
at
maybe
building
some
new
schools,
because
it's
not
going
to
get
any
better
and
the
growth
is
continuing
to
come
and
there's
going
to
be
more
residential
developments.
Now,
let's
just
look
at
this
logically,
I
said
earlier.
S
Two
miles
five
miles:
10
miles,
maybe
over
on
hubbard
road,
maybe
further
out
veterans,
parkway,
there's
new
developments,
residential
developments
coming
that's
traffic!
It's
going
to
be
on
that
road.
So
would
you
want
the
cars
driving
from
those
places
to
get
to
the
school,
or
would
you
rather
have
the
children
walk
across
the
street?
S
You
know
I
kind
of
look
at
it
a
little
bit
different.
Logically,
when
you
think
about
things
like
that,
I
don't
think
those
people
gonna
be
driving
their
kids
to
school
if
they
have
kids.
So
that's
the
least
when
I
talk
about
the
least
impact,
that's
the
least
impact
now
the
stuff
up
that
was
talked
about
in
the
front,
the
commercial
and
all.
That's
not
changing,
and
that's
going
to
happen
whether
you
do
a
traffic
study
or
not,
but
I
think
that
I
mean
I
am
okay.
S
It
does
and
you're
still
going
to
have
the
same
situation,
so
they
could
go
in
and
they
could
do
that
and
they
don't
need
anybody's
approval.
They
don't
need
any
traffic
studies
because
it
already
matches
up
the
apartments.
Are
there,
you've
got
a
limited
amount
of
land
and
the
only
thing
really
that
can
go
in
there.
I
would
not
approve
any
more
departments
for
for
houses
the
land's
going
to
be
cleared
if
it
stays
at
a1.
S
The
land's
going
to
be
clear,
though,
because
of
the
topography:
it's
not
changing
whether
you
have
100
120
lots
or
50
lots
that
land's
going
to
be
cleared.
I
mean
that's
just
what's
going
to
happen
so
when
you
look
at
it
from
aesthetics
and
all
across
the
board,
whether
it's
a1
or
sfr4
you're,
just
talking
about
some
smaller
lots
and
when
a
developer
is
trying
to
put
in
something
nice.
S
We
don't
get
a
lot
with
buffers.
You
got
buffers
here
which
I
like
I
don't
even
have
to
put
a
condition
in
for
buffer,
because
the
buffers
are
natural
and
I
based
it
on
a
site
plan.
So
that's
great,
I
think,
when
I
said
define
the
traffic
count
is
going
to
be
what
it's
going
to
be,
and
I
think
we
can
define
that
the
planning
department's
been
doing
this
for
years.
S
Mr
jones
has
been
around
for
years.
We've
got
models
that
are
already
there
that
we
know
exactly
what
the
car
count
is.
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
tell
you
what
that
rehab
center
is,
but
that
land
is
is
zoned
and
there's
going
to
be.
If
they
want
to
put
a
building
there,
there's
nothing
we
can
do
about
it
now.
Would
I
agree
no,
but
what
kind
of
traffic
changes
do
you
make
at
that
intersection
to
change
things
you
can't
not
under
not
only
the
proposed
overlay.
We
have
an
overlay
district
too.
S
By
the
way,
so
I
mean
whatever
goes.
There
is
going
to
go
there
and
they're
going
to
approve
the
entrances
as
is,
and
a
traffic
study
is
not
going
to
matter,
because
the
law
allows
them
to
use
the
land.
That's
there
and
it's
already
been
zoned.
Would
I
approve
any
more
apartments?
No,
would
I
approve
anything,
that's
going
to
have
a
what
I
would
consider
a
significant
impact.
S
S
S
I
think
when
I
look
at
this,
like
I
said,
and
I
don't
have
look,
I
I'm
I'm
trying
to
look
at
this
objectively.
I
don't
know
these
gentlemen
and
and
certainly
I'm
trying
to
balance
all
the
growth
we've
got
a
tremendous
amount
of
growth
in
our
district
and
I'm
trying
to
balance
all
that,
but
I
do
know
that
you're
kind
of
limited
somewhere
and
the
path
of
progress
is
going
to
continue
and
you're
somewhat
limited
in
what
you
can
do
with
that.
S
You
know,
I'm
concerned
about
those
quarries
over
those
quarries
are
what
they
are,
but
there's
some
some
talk
of
progress.
You
know
some
expansion
there,
but
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
that.
I
would
hope
that
you
could
take
that
thought
back
to
the
school
district
and
ask
him
to
consider
that
I
did
talk
to
some
of
the
school
representatives
before
you
know.
God
rest
is
solely
to
pass
now,
but
but
we
had
those
conversations
about
the
need
for
more
classrooms.
S
I
hope
that
we
see
that,
because
that's
really
the
only
solution
I
see,
I
don't
think
we
can
talk
about
the
traffic
counts
for
a
long
time.
But
it's
really
not
going
to
matter
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
going
to
need
to
take
the
traffic
off
the
road
and
redirect
the
school
traffic
somewhere
else,
because
the
school
traffic's
not
going
to
change
unless
you
redirect
those
students
somewhere
else
or
limit
the
number
of
students
in
the
schools
and
that's
kind
of
you
know
that's
kind
of
how
I'm
viewing
it.
S
And
I
don't
I'm
not.
I'm
not
arguing
the
point.
Okay,
because
I
respect
the
position
and
I
understand
it,
I'm
just
trying
to
throw
out
a
little
different
view
of
it
from
a
from
a
different
angle
and
how
I'm
looking
at
it,
and
when
we
make
these
decisions
you
try
to
express
and
you
try
to
share
with
the
community
how
you're
thinking
and
how
you're
processing
your
thought
process
and
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
right.
S
You
know
it's
somewhat
of
a
it's
a
waste
of
money.
I
mean
it
is,
but
I
do
respect
the
planning
director's
point
of
view,
because
that's
what
they
do
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
his
job,
that's
their
job
and
they
need
somebody
to
tell
them
that
we're
okay
in
doing
it
a
different
way.
That's
why
we
have
the
bza.
That's
why
we
have
council.
That's
why
we
have
an
opportunity
to
work
through
that,
but
they're
doing
their
job.
S
I
mean
they
do
that
with
every
development,
but
sometimes
we
say:
okay,
let's
do
it
this
way
and
it
it
works,
and
that
way
he
can
be
fair
to
all
the
other
developers
that
come
in
and
say
the
same
thing
I
held
my
ground,
but
council
said
it's
okay,
so
that's
my
perspective
on
the
on
the
traffic
stay
as
far
as
the
sidewalks
in
almost
city
manager,
we've
got
sidewalks
around
we've
been
putting
them
trying
to
put
those
around
schools,
and
I
would
think
that
the
infrastructure
funds
that
we
have
are
sufficient
enough
to
put
sidewalks
in
there
or
something
like
this
came
to
to
try
to
deal
with
some
of
those
matters.
S
But
I
want
to
also
say
that
old
guard
road
has
a
turning
lane,
which
is
totally
different
from
like
double
churches,
road
and
some
of
the
other
roads
that
we
desperately
need
improvements
on
as
well.
We
haven't
had
improvements
there
in
a
long
time
and
we're
still
development
still
just
going
everywhere.
So
you
know
that's
that's
kind
of
it
in
a
nutshell.
So
thank
you.
S
I
know
on
the
on
the
staff
report.
There
were
no
comments
that
were
put
on
there
by
anybody,
but
I
did
receive
I've
been
out
of
the
country.
Okay,
I've
been
back
in
the
country
in
less
than
48
hours,
so
I
did
have
an
email
that
I
saw
and
I
have
not
been
able
to
address
by.
I
think
it's
one
of
the
residents
out
there
and
you
know
they
do
have
a
home
there.
S
I
I
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
work
out
when
you
you,
you
don't
have
roads
that
are
going
further
into
the
depth
of
the
land,
but
I
I
do
want
to
get
back
with
that
person.
They
may
be
here
tonight,
but
I
do
want
to
get
back
with
them
and
talk
to
them
about
some
of
their
concerns
as
well.
U
Okay-
and
I
just
want
to
say
not
to
be
argumentative-
that
the
the
growth
of
the
classroom
count
as
we
have
plenty
of
room
for
new
students
just
going
from
the
40
acres.
It's
talked
about
and
having
one
driveway
per
acre
versus
four
driveways
per
acre
and
the
increased
amount
of
cars
that
would
be
there
on
that
one-way
road.
That's
that's
what
our
concern
is,
so
it's
not
the
growth
or
the
classroom.
Okay,.
Q
Hurt
I've
taken
up
a
lot
of
your
time,
but
I
did
just
want
to
address
the
I
heard,
maybe
counselor
thomas,
throw
out
a
condition
on
sidewalks
and
I
just
wanted
to
define
you
know
what
what
that
was
that
we
might
be
agreeing
to
if
that's
a
condition,
that's
out
there.
But
that's
that's
my
point.
P
K
I
don't
know
all
I
know
is,
as
I
drove
through
there
this
afternoon
and
saw
that
apartment
complex
and
saw
the
sign
where
it
said
your
complex
would
be
going
in
down
to
the
middle
school
that
well,
there
are
no
sidewalks
at
all
on
old
guard,
and
if
there
are,
I,
I
understand
your
point
that
there
probably
are
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
kids
in
your
development,
but
in
the
apartments
there
may
be-
and
I
just
want
us
to
be
sure
that
we
are
giving
those
students
the
safest
way
to
get
to
the
school
and
the
the
planning
department
has
worked
with
this
many
times
about
sidewalks
and
what
we
need
and
so
forth.
K
And
so
you
know
that's
that's.
My
concern
is
that
they
have
some
safety.
K
Way
to
get
to
safeway
to
get
to
school,
particularly
from
those
apartments
which
I
know
are
not
your
concern
and
the
the
residential
area
there
to
both
the
middle
school
and
the
elementary
school
sure.
Q
And
just
speaking
for
our
development,
I
know
there'd
be
no
issue.
You
know
to
the
extent
that
sidewalks
would
be
helpful
in
our
subdivision.
There'd
be
no
issue.
Putting
sidewalks
in
in
front
of
you
know
in
front
of
our
property
getting
towards
the
middle
school
or
wherever,
and
I
guess
too
you
really
briefly.
You
raise
a
very
interesting
point
of
you
know
the
apartment
complex,
that's
already
there.
It's
don't
hold
me
to
the
numbers,
but
I
believe
it's
262
units.
That's
planned.
K
Q
I
believe
six,
but
don't
don't
hold
me
to
that
number
okay,
but
I
would
just
point
out
that
that's
twice
the
size
of
this
development
four
years
ago
there
there
was
no
talk
of
a
traffic
study.
No
the
school
district
didn't
request
any
traffic
study
school
impact
any
of
those
things
and
that
development
was
twice
the
size
of
this
one.
So
that's
just
something
to
consider
as
well
when
we
think
about
you,
know
the
zoning
process
being
constitutional,
making
sure
you
know
equal
protection
under
the
law
to
everyone.
Q
Q
P
D
P
H
D
Sorry,
I
think
he
addressed
he
acknowledged
that
they
would
put
sidewalks
internally,
okay
and
but
not
external
of
their
development.
So.
V
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
city
manager,
members
of
the
council,
as
a
teacher,
I
always
have
a
backup
plan.
I
wasn't
sure
of
you
guys
technology
set
up,
so
I
made
you
all
colored
bound
copies
of
my
data
for
tonight,
so
I
am
beth
leatherwood
and
I
am
the
resident.
I
live
on.
2040
old
guard
road,
and
I'm
here
tonight
with
my
husband
brett
to
oppose
the
rezoning
of
banana
bay
llc.
V
V
V
V
It
is
my
understanding
that
banana
bay
has
repeatedly
denied
requests
by
the
city
for
a
traffic
study.
Austin
gibson,
the
lawyer
for
banana
bay,
mentions
a
20
000
to
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
price
for
the
study
in
a
previous
meeting,
but
state
that
the
price
was
not
the
reason
it
was
not
obtained.
V
V
I
don't
need
a
traffic
study
to
tell
me
about
the
traffic
problems
on
old
guard
road
and
I'm
so
thankful
as
an
educator
for
15
years.
That
judy
thomas
brought
up
the
point
about
sidewalks,
because
kids
are
always
in
my
best
interest
and
the
idea
of
kids
walking
down
those
roads
with
no
sidewalks
at
that
very,
very
high
density
time
makes
me
nervous.
Is
I
have
two
kids
in
that
neighborhood
as
well?
Two
sons,
please.
I
have
first-hand
knowledge
of
the
traffic
problems.
Please
turn
to
page
two
of
your
packet.
V
V
V
The
next
two
photos
in
the
packet
are
still
shots,
captured
from
drone
footage
taken
on
march
24th.
You
can
see
the
cars
waiting
in
the
straight
lane
to
pick
up
their
children.
The
problem
here
is
that
cars
try
to
pass
the
waiting
parents
by
using
the
turn
lane
and
they
become
victims
of
road
rage.
The
waiting
parents
yell
they
even
swerve
into
the
next
lane
to
prevent
you
from
from
passing
them,
and
we
took
this
drone
footage.
We
do
have
a
live
video
of
that.
V
If
you
would
like
to
see
that
I
have
that
in
my
powerpoint
banana
bay
says
that
they
will
sorry,
I
lost
my
place.
Banana
bay
says
that
they
will
market
their
development
to
55
and
older
first
by
the
georgia
statute,
44
560
d3,
the
development
cannot
be
age
restricted.
V
Secondly,
any
increased
density
will
be
bad
for
the
area
whether
the
residents
are
18
to
80.,
and
I
might
go
on
to
say
that
mr
bowers
mentions
that
he
aims
for
the
go-go
seniors,
a
group
of
adults,
55
and
older.
If
we're
talking
about
a
traffic
issue
and
they're
go
go
residents,
then
they're
going
to
be
going
to
which
is
going
to
cause
even
more
traffic.
V
We
don't
need
any
more
high
density
housing
in
this
area.
Banana
bay
might
mention
that
graystone
apartments
are
already
nearby.
However,
we
built
this
house
knowing
that
the
graystone
apartments
were
going
in.
We
never
expected
an
increased
density
to
be
right
next
door,
even
though
I
am
the
only
house
existing
currently
next
door
to
banana
bay
in
about
five
months.
My
parents
will
also
be
there
with
me
banana
bae.
Never
approached
me
about
rezoning
this
until
yesterday,
after
I
heard
that
after
they
heard
that
I
would
p
oppose
their
request.
V
V
W
Sorry
about
that,
if
you
notice
banana
bay's
property
right
here
is
50
acres.
If
this
zoning
is
approved,
then,
what's
to
say
the
50
acres
next
door
to
it
doesn't
get
the
same
zoning
rates
in
the
future
and
that
could
increase
it
by
another
115
properties.
G
Thank
you
it's
my
observation
that
this
is
not
an
isolated
issue
with
cars
around
schools.
At
this
time
of
day,
I
travel
the
city
quite
a
bit
in
my
job,
and
I
see
this
same
issue
on
edgewood
in
front
of
club
view
and
richards.
G
We
don't
do
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
handle
the
traffic
around
the
schools.
This
is
I
don't
this
is
this
is
going
to
go
on
and
continue
no
matter
what
goes
there,
and
I
would
think
that
if
children
were
there,
if
I
were
their
mother,
I'd
have
them
walking
to
school,
I
wouldn't
sit.
I
wouldn't
sit
in
that
line,
so
it
seems
like
maybe
we
should
be
talking
about-
maybe
widening
this
road
to
give
it.
G
B
Yeah
and
I
I
would
yield
to
our
friends
from
the
school
district,
but
this
year
is
especially
tough
because
there
are
more
parents
taking
their
kids,
because
we've
had
labor
issues
and
hiring
bus
drivers,
so
the
buses
get
there
earlier
and
pick
up
drop
off
later
at
night.
So
this
year's
been,
I
feel
for
y'all
we're
having
trouble
too.
But
it's
it's
been
a
challenge.
S
Yeah
I
just
wanted.
I
wanted
to
ma'am.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
coming
up
and
again
I
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
get
back
with
you
but
I've.
I
really
I've
been
back
in
the
country
less
than
48
hours
and
I
do
have
your
email.
I
got
your
email.
I
got
that
I
think
last
week
was
sent
to
me.
I
did.
I
was
able
to
see
that
where
I
was,
but
I
could
not
respond
because
I
didn't
didn't
have
the
service.
So
I
apologize
about
that,
but
I
do
want
to
talk
to
you.
S
This
is
on
first
reading,
so
I
knew
that
coming
here
tonight
that
I
could
do
that.
I
already
had
a
plan
to
talk
to
you,
but
some
of
the
things
I've
talked
about
tonight.
I
I
you
know
that
the
we're
going
to
have
to
fight
you're
right
we're
going
to
have
to
find
solutions,
but
I
don't
know
if
what
we're
talking
about
the
the
we
are
talking.
A
S
Traffic,
because
that
that's
a
problem,
it's
been
a
problem
for
a
long
time
and
and
the
road
is
there.
I
don't
foresee
the
road
being
widened
anytime
soon,
and
I
don't
know
where
that
money
is
to
make
it
happen,
but
it
would
take
a
long
time,
but
before
it
went
through
a
bid
process
and
on
down
the
road
and
the
council,
members
know
how
long
it
takes
to
get
roads
in
I'm
trying
to
get
whitesville
road
fix
right
now,
because
we
got
a
problem
there
at
double
churches.
S
You
guys
know
that
with
the
school
there,
but
I
do
know
we're
gonna
have
to
start
talking
about
more
classrooms.
I
do
know
that's
the
way
to
take
the
pressure
off
the
road,
the
land
is
there
and
and
whether
you
do
a1
that's
what
I
was
talking
about.
I
mean
we
could
keep
it
like
it
is,
they
would
still
clear
it
and
they
would
still
put
lots
there
and
it
would
still
be
the
same.
We're
still
talking
about
the
same
thing.
Yet
they're
continue
to
do
it.
They
could
do
the
whole,
for
example.
S
S
You
know
that
land
theoretically
could
be
used
continued
like
that
and
you're
still
going
to
have
the
same
issues
and
like
I
said
whether
it
was
a
mile
away.
You
know
we
do
have
a
development
right
across
the
street
dave
erickson
yano,
the
promenade
that
y'all,
that
that
was
built.
It's
totally
different
from
this
one,
but
that's
a
concept
that
you
can
tell
from
a
traffic
standpoint.
What
I've
seen
is
that
it
hasn't
been.
There
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
traffic
there.
S
There
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
traffic
in
some
of
these
other
developments
that
I'm
familiar
with
in
the
district.
I
represent
it
and
that's
why
I
talk
about
I'm
more
concerned
about
the
least
the
least
impact.
Okay.
That's
why
I'm
focused
on
the
least
impact
versus
a
a
larger
impact,
but
whether
it's
hubbard
road
what's
happening
now,
whether
it's
wool
ridge
road,
whether
it's
some
of
the
other
roads
that
are
further
out.
S
I
do
know
more
developments
coming
and
it's
still
the
same
cars
so
whether
it's
there
or
further
out
that's
not
going
to
solve
that
issue,
but
the
land
is
going
to
be
used
somehow,
and
what
I
do
like
about
this
one.
Okay,
is
what
I
said.
If,
if
you
were
to
come
up
here
and
they
had
a
development
there
and
they
didn't
have
these
buffers
away
from
your
house,
I
would
be
asking
for
a
condition
to
put
an
undisturbed
buffer
in
there.
S
I
would,
and
the
council
members
know
that,
but
they've
got
a
a
buffer.
What
I
like
is
they've
got
a
considerable
buffer,
which
I
think
is
significant.
We
don't
see
those
kind
of
things.
Usually
they
put
up
a
wooden
fence
and
the
terrain.
You
know
the
exactly
so,
whether
it's
natural
or
whatever
you
don't
have
to
look
at
a
wooden
fence,
and
it's
not
in
your
backyard.
S
It
could
be
in
your
backyard,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
there
in
this
case,
which
that
you
know
it
gives
me
some
more
confidence
that
I'm
looking
out
for
the
residents
and,
at
the
same
time,
not
being
a
hindrance
to
development
because,
like
the
attorney
said,
I
mean
they
have
rights
to
to
develop
the
land.
So
you
know
in
looking
at
these
developments,
there's
going
to
be
development
there
I
mean
that's
just
a
fact,
and
we
cannot
stop
that
development.
S
We
can't
say
because
there's
traffic
on
the
road,
nobody
can
do
anything
with
that
land.
That's
illegal!
You
can't
do
that,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
a
solution,
and
I'm
saying
that
I
don't
think
that
I
think
residential
in
its
right
component
is
going
to
be
the
least
impactful.
What
we
need
to
start
real
life
is
trying
to
get
that
traffic
off
the
roads
and
the
schools
are
the
central
focus.
S
So
you
know
we're
going
to
have
to
start
looking
at
more
schools,
maybe
in
different
areas,
to
direct
that
traffic
in
different
ways.
I
mean
that's
just
a
fact
and
we
should
have
had
that
conversation.
I
hope
that
conversation
has
been
going
on
with
the
school
district
and
it
should
have
been
happening
a
long
time
ago.
You
got
to
plan
these
things
out,
but
that
road,
when
that
road
was
put
in
there,
I
mean
they
knew
development
was
coming.
S
S
We
can't
control
that.
Do
we
just
tell
everybody
to
stop
so
you
know,
we've
got
to
figure
this
thing
out
and
at
the
same
time,
I'm
very
sensitive.
Look
I'm
very
sensitive
to
your
concern
because
I've
got
somebody
building
in
my
backyard
right
now
and
we
talk
about
it
all
the
time
and
I
deal
with
those
issues
but
trying
to
balance
it,
but
I
do
want
to
sit
down.
This
is
your
ho.
I
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
y'all
and
talk
about
this
more
in
detail.
V
S
That's
really
what
I'm
trying
to
capture
for
the
area
is
to
make
sure
that
that's
the
development,
if
they
don't
do
that
and
it
changes,
it
goes
back
to
a1
and
you
get
to
have
another
public
hearing
and
hear
what
goes
on.
They
agreed
to
do
that.
That's
that's
what
I
asked
them
to
do
and.
V
S
Well,
you
make
a
good
point,
but
you've
got
to
look
at
it
as
a
positive
having
that
granite,
there's
a
good
thing,
because
it
keeps
people
from
developing
the
land
and
it
stays
in
its
natural
state
granted.
Sometimes
when
people
are
dealing
with
granite,
the
cost
to
build,
go
up
extremely
higher
and
so
having
a
few
more
lots
makes
the
development
work,
but
the
good
thing
for
you
or
anybody
else
that
was
living
that
area
and
I
don't
think
you're,
probably
going
to
be
the
last
one.
S
Exactly
there's
usable
land
and
you
know
most
likely
the
landowners
will.
Probably
you
know
whatever
their
desire
is
to
do
with
the
land
they
may
sell
it,
and
the
rock
is
going
to
be
an
issue.
But
I
look
at
that
as
a
positive
thing,
because
it
limits
what
developers
can
do
and
it
may
be
in
some
of
these
other
lots.
You're
talking
about
that.
That
becomes
a
factor
and
people
don't
want
to
people
don't
like
developing
in
rock.
V
V
V
I
didn't
turn
around
and
resell
it
and
try
to
get
it
rezoned
to
squish
a
couple
houses
on
it
to
get
my
money
back
and
that's
my
fear
and
and
and
I'll
hush
on
my
point,
because
I
think
I've
made
it,
but
my
fear
is
all
of
the
houses
being
pushed
into
one
little
zone,
because
that's
the
only
buildable
opportunity
that
they
have,
whether
it
be
a
buffer,
because
they're
in
a
flood
plain
you've
got
granite,
and
this
is
the
only
buildable
space
that
you
have
what's
to
say
that
that
squished
hundred
and
some
odd
homes
is
not
going
to
be
put
into
the
next
50
acres.
V
And
then
we
have
a
really
really
big
issue.
I
would
love
for
it
to
all
tie
into
old
town,
because
that
is
a
beautiful
community,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
it
doesn't
look
like
that
is
the
direction
old
guard
is
going
in
and
we
are
jam-packed
in
that
area.
We
are.
S
S
You
remember
at
one
time
when
that
massive
right,
where
you
live,
there
was
a
massive
apartment
complex
that
was
going
to
come
in
there
and
and
we
went
through
this
and
we
were
able
to
stop
it,
but
they
brought
up
the
fact
that
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
rock
and
all
in
that
that
area
and
it
and
it
didn't
happen,
but
we're
either
going
to
have
to
build
more
classrooms,
we're
going
to
have
to
build
a
bigger
road
something,
but
both
of
those
are
going
to
take
a
long
time.
X
My
name
is
paul:
olson
illumi,
13830
late
jupiter
georgia
to
give
a
solution
to
her
problem,
since
it's
a
nature
way
bylaws
and
have
it
to
where
it
prohibits
subletting
to
not
meet
the
criteria
of
55
and
older,
and
that's
the
answer
to
that.
B
Thank
you,
mr
thompson.
Madame
clerk
did
you
have.
W
F
J
P
B
All
right,
there's
a
I
guess,
councillor
davis,
that
was
a
motion
all
right,
there's
a
motion
to
condition
it
on
making
sure
that
any
development
is
consistent
with
the
site
plan
right,
constructing,
excluding
excluding
any
engineering
required
relocations.
B
P
B
And
that
was
to
include
sidewalks
on
the
exterior
of
the
property
as
well.
B
Q
Just
very
briefly,
I
wanted
to
mention
that
ms
leatherwood
mentioned
that
state
law
doesn't
allow
you
to
discriminate
based
on
age.
That's
true,
federal
law
is
the
same,
but
the
fair
housing
act
gives
exceptions
where
you
can.
You
can
restrict
based
on
age,
for
55
and
over
communities.
As
long
as
80
percent
of
the
community
is
that
55
and
over
and
the
way
you
keep
and
the
way
you
keep
you
keep
it
55
and
over.
Is
you
know
you
do
you
like?
Q
Q
Such
it's
not
currently,
but
I
have
a
condition
if
you
guys
would
like
if
you
guys,
would
like
to
read
it
into
the
record
and
vote
on
it.
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
B
R
Bowers
had
one
point:
yes,
I
just
do
have
one
point
on
that.
One
thing
with
doing
the
full-blown
age
restriction
which
we
are
comfortable
with
doing
is
like
I'd
stated
earlier.
We
do
have
folks
that
do
retire
out
of
fort
benning
that
have
not
reached
the
age
of
55.
Yet
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
accommodate
those
individuals
in
this
neighborhood.
However,
if
the
approval
would
be
conditioned
upon
the
age
restriction,
we
are
comfortable
doing
that.
Well,.
B
Q
And
so
would
you
like
me
to
read
this
out
the
rezoning
of
the
subject
property?
The
sfr4
is
conditioned
upon
the
development
being
age
restricted
in
quotes,
which
means
that
at
least
one
person
is
age,
55
or
older
in
at
least
80
percent
of
the
occupied
units
in
according
with,
in
accordance
with
the
housing
for
older
persons,
persons
exemptions
set
forth
in
the
fair
housing
act
and
24
cfr,
section
100.300
in
the
code
of
federal
regulations.
So
that's
a
defined
term.
B
B
You
made
the
motion.
All
right,
you
made
councillor
barnes,
had
the
second
council
all
right
motion
in
a
second
any
discussion,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
That's
the
third
condition.
Thank.
P
P
P
Y
P
Z
Hi
good
evening,
we've
partnered
with.
W
Z
Durbin
with
a
grant
living
llc,
we
have
partnered
with
working
with
houses
and
we
are
actually
in
the
process
of
the
permitting
stage
and
are
awaiting
approval
for
that
have
been
for
the
last,
I
believe
two
to
three
weeks.
Z
And
forgive
me
I
haven't
been,
but
I'm
not.
I
am
not
aware
of
the
conversations
that
are
going
on
between
the
owner
of
the
property
and
the
permitting
office
as
I'm
not
privy
to
all
of
those
conversations,
but
I
do
know
that
there
was
a
conversation
earlier
today
regarding
moving
forward
with
getting
that
permit.
Or
there
was
a
excuse
me.
Z
There
was
a
document
that
was
misplaced
at
the
office
by
one
of
the
office
members
that
they're
trying
to
find
and
they're
working
that
out
and
probably
we
have
to
resend
that
to
them
because
it
was
hand
delivered
to
the
office.
So
that
might
be
the
whole
day.
B
Y
Y
The
reason
the
property
is
on
here
is
this
has
actually
been
on
our
list
since
2011.,
it's
one
of
our
oldest
properties,
this
owner
bought
it
actually
last
year,
but
since
it
has
been
on
the
list
that
long
that's
why
we
we
brought
it
forward,
but
I
would
certainly
anticipate
by
second
reading
that
they
would
have
their
permit
and
would
have
the
opportunity
to
begin
renovation
work
on
the
property.
So.
Y
P
B
Bring
that
those
documentation
that
documentation
in
and
and
get
with,
ryan
hill.
Z
E
P
AA
I'm
really
here
for
a
different
reason.
I
do
not
have
an
ownership
stake
in
this
property.
I
have
an
a
an
emotional
investment
in
this
property.
I
live
at
738
broadway.
My
name
is
fran
carpenter.
I've
talked
to
some
of
you
about
this
building
before
and
about
the
liberty
district
in
general.
Before
I
own
property
in
the
liberty
district,
I
bought
a
derelict
building
about
five
years
ago.
The
windows
were
broken
out
of
it,
and
people
looked
at
it
and
said:
there's
no
way
that
building
can
be
saved,
but
I
now
have
saved
it.
AA
I
just
fundamentally
have
a
problem
with
the
fact
that
I
feel
we're
at
cross
purposes
with
the
city.
Sometimes
these
are
historic
properties.
This
last
property
is
a
historic
property.
It's
in
a
historic
district
and
there
are
there.
There
is
code
in
our
municipal
code
that
does
not
allow
for
demolition
by
neglect.
AA
You
should
enforce
that
code.
I
have
a
problem
with
the
fact
that
our
city
doesn't
enforce
that
code.
There
are
fines
that
can
be
levied,
but
the
problem
is
that
the
property
is
owned
by
an
individual,
real
estate
investor
and
that
person
can't
be
compelled
to
sell
that
property
to
someone
who
will
actually
turn
it
into
something.
AA
There's
a
shell
of
a
building
on
broadway,
it's
the
old
crest
building.
The
facade
still
stands
there
today.
I
don't
know
what
will
ever
be
done
with
that
building,
but
we've
had
the
foresight
to
save
it,
and
I
feel
the
same
way
about
this
building.
This
building
was
stabilized.
There
were
steel,
girders
placed
inside
the
building
and
the
since
the
new
owner
has
purchased
it.
The
roof
has
caved
in
on
the
other
two
buildings
there's
a
book.
AA
AA
AA
Architectural
treasures
cannot
be
rebuilt.
The
history
can't
be
put
back,
so
I
don't
know
are
we?
Are
we
only
going
to
be
happy
when
we've
torn
it
all
down
and
level
the
entire
liberty
district?
I
say
we
should
save
this
building.
I
say
that
the
planning
department
should
compel
the
owner
to
stabilize
the
remainder
of
the
building.
B
AB
My
name
is
chance,
chancellor.
I
live
at
732
broadway
in
the
historic
district,
and
so
I
would
also
like
to
speak
in
opposition
to
utilizing
demolition
by
neglect
on
this
building
as
spoken
earlier.
This
is
a
historic
property
and
one
of
the
few
remaining
historic
pieces
in
the
liberty
district.
If
you
drive
to
the
liberty
district
today,
you
will
see
most
of
it
has
been
either
demoed
and
turned
into
modern
housing,
or
it's
just
empty
space.
AB
We
know
from
what
is
city
manager's
agenda
number
six
on
the
acquisition
of
snyder's
lance
that
there
are
major
major
plans
for
the
liberty
district.
You
have
all
this
space.
That
is
right
for
redevelopment.
Why
does
this
space
have
to
come
down?
There
are
so
many
empty
lots
and
so
many
empty
spaces.
AB
AB
So
this
really
comes
into
the
bigger
issue,
with
the
use
of
legalization
of
demolition
by
neglect
for
historic
properties
during
the
historic
district
are
designated
historic
by
other
means.
This
is
an
important
tool,
but
it
is
a
very,
very
heavy-handed
and
final
tool
that
is
used
when
the
condition
of
property
has
truly
deteriorated.
AB
So
if
the
owner
of
this
property
came
before
the
board
council
today
and
asked
to
demolish
his
property,
bher
would
likely
oppose.
But,
however,
because
this
is
being
presented
by
council
to
council
itself,
this
is
bypassed
so
currently,
bhr
is
charged
with
monitoring,
neglected
historic
properties.
In
section
9.3.16
of
the
municipal
code,
council
should
seek
bhar's
recommendation
on
this
and
other
historic
properties
prior
to
simply
ordering
demolition
of
by
neglect
and
implement
bhar's
recommendation
you've
delegated
this
power
to
phar.
AB
For
a
reason,
let's
let
bhar
do
its
job,
let's
see
so,
rather
than
offering
to
simply
demolish
this
property
on
behalf
of
the
owner
and
bill
them,
which
is
doing
them.
A
favor
council
should
seek
alternative
remedies
such
as
fines,
which
I
recognize
would
likely
be
in
the
form
of
a
lien.
This
is
a
llc
out
of
fayetteville
georgia
so
that
this
property
can
be
kept
intact
and
allow
for
future
restoration
with
everything
that's
about
to
be
happening
in
the
liberty
and
all
the
exciting
changes
we
need
to
keep
the
few
police
places.
AB
We've
got,
I
mean
think
of
you
know
down
broadway
iron
bank.
You
know
all
these
other
historic
properties
that
have
been
redeveloped
for
reuse
and
that
are
his
especially
anchors,
especially
liberty.
Theater,
there's
not
much
left
in
this
property
to
anchor
the
liberty
district.
We
need
every
piece
of
property
we
can
save.
AB
Y
G
Y
To
our
knowledge
he's
I've
we've
only.
My
department
has
only
had
one
conversation
with
the
the
gentleman
who
owns
it,
which
was
last
summer.
We
did
the
city
manager
and
I
went
to
the
bihar
meeting.
I
believe
it
was
in
july
last
year
to
update
them,
and
let
them
know
that
at
some
point,
if
the
owner
did
not
take
action,
we
would
be
bringing
this
property
before
before
council
for
their
consideration.
Y
G
D
The
director
said,
I
accompanied
him
to
bihar
last
year
sometime
just
to
try
and
get
this
moving,
because
I
mean
I
I
drive
that
way.
Every
single
day
I
come
to
work,
I
drive
past
it
every
single
day
that
I
travel
home
and
I've
watched.
D
You
know,
and
I
mean
I
don't
know
whether
the
bricks
will
are
stable
or
not,
and
I
think
you
all
looked
at
that,
but
but
we
did
go
to
bihar
and
I
mean
I've
watched
it
for
the
last
15
17
years
in
in
in
such
a
terrible
state
and-
and
of
course
you
know-
I
hear
fran
and
and
the
concern
of
bihar.
D
You
know
I
don't
mind,
leaving
it
on
the
list,
but
delaying
demolition
to
determine
see.
If
we
can,
you
know
what
other
options
we
have,
but
I
would
leave
it
on
the
list.
D
B
Well,
we've
just
through
the
normal
course
of
the
process.
We've
got
at
least
two
more
weeks
to
try
to
relocate
our
again
with
the
owner
and
see
if
there's
any
way
to
try
it
because
listen
the
demolition
process
is
not
something
that
we
jump
to
lightly.
We
go
through
the
demolition
process
when
we
don't
have
any
response
or
can't
get
any
assistance.
B
Our
objective
is
to
get
the
property
revitalized
if
possible,
or
to
get
the
owner
to
take
action
to
take
it
down,
because
we
we
have
to
hear
from
individuals
that
this
this
doesn't
apply
here,
but
typically
the
demolition
process
is,
is
enacted
because
we've
got
neighbors
or
people
around
there
that
are
impacted
by
the
way.
These
properties
look
and
sometimes
you'll
have
a
whole
neighborhood
that
is
brought
down
by
one
property
and
and
then
it
kind
of
becomes
council's
obligation
to
try
to
determine
whether
or
not
they
can
make
an
improvement
by
subtraction.
B
We
can
talk
with
this
gentleman
talk
with
them
again.
We
can
see
if
there's
any
fines
or
talk
with
the
city
attorney
about
any
other
leverage.
We
can
exercise
to
try
and
encourage
him
to
do
something
with
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
have
a.
We
have
an
obligation
to
make
sure
that
the
public
is
safe
too.
So.
D
B
S
Davis,
mr
mayor,
thank
you.
You
know
I'm
kind
of
struggling
to
see
where
the
bhar
fits
into
all
this,
because
they
they
are
an
appointed
body
from
council
and
normally
they
review
development
and
plans
and
give
recommendations
and
things
like
that.
I've
never
seen
the
bha
or
bhar
involved
in
demolition,
and
things
like
that.
I
would
think
that
the
historic
society
would
have
more
more
say-so
there.
S
You've
got
the
access
to
deviant-type
activities
and
things
like
that.
You've
got
to
do
something
to
stabilize
this.
What
would
be
the
mental
minimum
standards
to
get
this
property
where
it
needs
to
be.
Y
Yeah,
really,
the
the
bare
minimum
would
be
like
you
mentioned,
cleaning
up
all
the
solid
waste,
the
debris,
cleaning
up
the
trees
and
all
that
that
have
grown
inside
of
it
and
then
getting
an
engineer
and
stabilizing
the
brick
structure.
S
Sometimes
you
can
camouflage
some
of
these
buildings
until
the
development
comes
with
artwork
and
things
like
that.
I
don't
I'm
not
saying
that's
the
case
here,
but
I
do
know
this
build
needs
to
be
secured
because
there
are
life,
safety
issues
and
other
type
of
community
issues
that
need
to
be
dealt
with,
whether
you
tear
it
down
or
not.
AC
First
of
all,
I
kind
of
like
the
way
this
conversation
is
going
I'd
like
to
ask
the
the
lady
that
talked
about
something:
that's
not
being
utilized
ordinance
or
something.
That's
not
being.
Could
you
touch
on
that?
AC
What
you
were
speaking
about,
something
that
an
ordinance
or
something
that
would
work
in
the
defense
of
something
like
that
and
the
reason
I'm
saying
this
here,
I'm
I'm
150
glared
that
we're
I've
adopted
this
monies
for
to
get
rid
of
blight,
but
I
know
in
philadelphia
they
that
that
they
use
something
to
kind
of
save
some
of
the
buildings
that
work.
AC
If
there
is
something
you
know
because
after
you
tear
it
down,
it's
gone,
I
mean
it's
gone
and
so
what
you
opened
up,
something
that
I
would
like
to
know
a
little
bit
about
be
a
little
educated
too.
If
there's
something
that
organization,
maybe
to
be
hard
whatever,
where
you
identify
individuals,
this
is
not
going
to
be
blanket
for
so
many
but
specific
structures.
AA
From
the
current
municipal
code-
and
this
has
to
do
with
historic
properties,
so
when
bhar,
when
something
is
brought
to
their
attention,
that
it's
a
derelict
property,
there's
a
failure
to
maintain
a
historic
property,
there
are
remedies
in
place
and
I
don't
know
why
the
city
does
not
use
them.
I
have
no
idea,
but.
AC
AC
You,
but
I
think,
with
something
like
this
here,
there's
nothing
stopping,
and
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
mr
city
manager,
let's
just
slow,
slow
the
role
a
little
bit
and
pursue
this
here,
because
once
it's
torn
down
the
historical
history
of
it
is
gone,
and
I
know
that
I
I
think
that
we
slow
down
just
a
little
bit
just
to
pursue
it,
particularly
if
we
have
something
on
the
books
like
this
here.
This
is
news
to
me.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
news
to
everybody
else
or
not,
but
it's
definitely
news
to
me.
AC
I
think
that
we're
going
in
the
right
direction,
mr
sydney
mayor
just
slowing
up,
we
can
keep
it
on
a
list
because
now
should
be
someone
should
contact
whoever's
in
the
mix
with
this
ordinance,
along
with
bihar,
to
check
things
out,
make
sure
everything's
according
to
oil,
if
it's,
if
it
can
legitimately
go
the
root
of
this
something
that
we
already
have
on
the
books.
AC
AC
AC
I
think
we
need
to
do
our
due
diligence
to
pursue
it
and
we're
going
to
keep
it
on
the
list,
but
it
allows
all
the
individuals
you
to
call-
or
maybe
mr
city
manager,
for
us
to
get
into
contact
with
whoever
it
may
be
to
look
into
this
here
and
to
see
if
it's
legitimately
legitimately
can
be
saved
or
get
some
people
in
the
mix.
AC
Of
course,
if
not
and
on
the
side
of
safety,
but
you
are
definitely
alerting
the
individuals
as
yourself
and
other
individuals
who
know
the
true
significance
of
this
to
get
involved
and
start
shaking
the
leaves
and
start
having
the
individuals
be
involved
in
trying
to
do
something
to
save
this
building.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
AA
You
councillor
barnes,
and
I
just
want
to
clear
something
up:
I'm
not
here
representing
bhar
tonight
I
am
on
bhar.
I
volunteer
my
time
for
bhar,
I'm
here
as
a
concerned
citizen
who
lit
who
lives
in
the
historic
in
a
historic
district
and
owns
property
in
the
liberty
district,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
here,
I'm
not
here
to
represent
bhar
tonight.
B
Y
My
staff
for
myself
have
to
physically
touch
the
person
and
hand
them
the
citation
to
get
them
to
court
to
be
able
to
impose
those
fines.
The
judge
in
recorder's
court
is
the
one
that
has
to
impose
those
fines,
so
that
is
the
challenge
and
then,
if
the
defendant
doesn't
show
up
to
court,
all
we
can
do
is
issue
a
warrant
for
their
arrest
and
we
wait
until
they
get
picked
up.
So
that's
the
particular
challenges
we
have
with
enforcing
that
particular
ordinance.
K
If
we
leave
this
on
the
list-
and
it
goes
to
the
second
reading
and
remains
on
the
list,
what
it,
what
is
the
next
step,
do
we
try
to
notify
this
owner
and
say
your
property
is
on
the
list
and
it's
going
to
be
demolished
or
what
are
mr
pruitt
one
of
you
what's
next?
K
I
guess
one
of
the
things
I'm
trying
to
find
I'm
trying
to
get
in
my
mind
is
the
timeline.
Are
we
talking
about
a
week?
Are
we
talking
about
a
month?
Are
we
talking
about
six
months?
Are
we
talking
about
what,
between
the
second
reading
of
this
and
the
actual
action
with
the
owner.
D
D
We'll
have
a
conversation
with
bihar,
we'll
do
whatever
we
need
to
do,
and
the
demolition
company
will
know
don't
do
anything
with
this
property.
Unless
we
give
you
clearance,
though
it's
been
authorized
by
council
and
I
mean
if
we've
got
to
go
another
six
months,
I
mean
it's
been
through
the
process.
D
D
F
K
One
of
the
things
I
would
suggest
to
you
is
that
we
can
keep
this
on
the
list
for
both
the
second
reading
and
the
first
reading.
K
Ms
carpenter
knows
that
we
that
there
is
a
possibility
that
bihar
might
be
able
to
do
something,
and
perhaps
she
could
get
in
touch
with
bihar
and
see
if
we
move
him
on-
and
you
know
mr
city
manager
and
mr
pruitt
that
it
seems
to
be
pretty
much
the
consensus
of
council
to
let's
put
this
on
the
list
as
low
as
we
can,
so
that,
if
something
can
be
done,
it
can
be
done.
But
if
not,
this
is
a
a
detriment
to
the
community.
D
O
I've
had
the
same
issues
you
know
in
my
district,
because
east
island
and
north
island
has
a
lot
of
historic
homes,
beautiful
homes
that
have
been
on
the
demo
list
and
in
north
island
in
particular.
I
think
troop
springs
would
be
willing
to
renovate
some
of
them
but,
for
example,
the
building
behind
mine.
I
had
to
track
down
the
owner
in
miami
behind
my
my
law
office
on
veterans
and
12th.
O
If
y'all
have
driven
by
there,
there
are
homeless
people
all
inside
the
building
behind
where
morgan
morgan's
office
is
in
that
building
that
is
attached
to
us.
I've
called
the
owner
actually
got
his
contact
information.
He
said
he
can't
find
anybody
to
do
anything
with
it,
and
we've
got
to
have
a
stronger
condemnation
power
with
this
city,
where
we
can
take
these
properties
and
allow
them
to
be
put
for
public
sale,
because
otherwise
people
aren't
going
to
buy
them
with
these
tax,
liens
and
properties
like
this.
O
If
we
were
able
to
put
up
for
public
auction,
somebody
would
probably
buy
it
now
would
would
we
get
our
money?
Would
we
get
our
money
back?
Maybe
not,
but
if
they're
gonna
use
it
for
a
historical
purpose
and
keep
it
within
the
historical
realm,
I'd
be
okay
with
that,
and
but
there's
got
to
be
something
to
get
for
these
out
of
town
landlords,
because
I'm
dealing
with
it
personally,
we
joke.
O
We
got
a
gr,
we
joke
about
a
boyfriend
and
a
girlfriend
that
sleeps
on
one
side
of
her
building,
one
on
the
other
side
and
there's
no
telling
how
many
people
are
in
the
building
behind
us,
because
the
windows
are
open
and
I've
made
the
owner
aware
and
he's
not
doing
anything
about
it.
You
know
I'm
talking
about
the
one
behind
morgan,
morgan
and
if
we
don't
have
condemnation
power
when
it
gets
to
this
point
so
that
we
can
preserve,
because
that's
at
night
that
building
has
good
bones.
O
I
know
multiple
people
who
who
are
interested
in
it,
but
nothing
is
happening
and
the
owner
is
neglected.
This
is
since
I've
been
at
morgan,
morgan
in
2018,
and
before
that
we
had
my
old
law.
Firm
actually
looked
at
buying
it
and
it
is
not
getting
better
and
we've
got
to
somehow
increase
our
power
because
we
can
save
these
historic
properties
if
we
can
get
them
out
of
these
slum
lords
who
do
not
live
here,
do
not
care
about
our
community
and
don't
care
about
the
historic
value
they
just
thought.
O
They
made
some
sort
of
investment
they
might
flip,
and
if
we
don't
do
that
either
in
some
way,
conjunction
with
condemnation
or
giving
it
to
land
bank
where
they
can
auction
off.
We've
got
to
find
a
way
to
do
this,
because
I
agree.
This
is
an
eyesore,
it's
dangerous,
but
this
owners,
let
it
get
this
way
and
they
don't
deserve
to
be
able
to
keep
the
property.
And
I
mean
that's
my
opinion,
but.
AC
I
agree,
I'm
all
for
safety
and
everything
if
the
lady
there
had
not
brought
up
something
that
we
have
on
the
book,
and
I
don't
think
I'm
the
only
council
up
here
to
know
that
this
is
existing.
But
something
like
this
is
good.
I'd
like
to
have
more
information
on
that
a
piece-
and
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
just
keep
it
up
a
little
bit
so
that
I
know
that
the
city
is
going
to
contact
bihar
hard.
AC
I
forget
what
your
name
is.
Yes,
thank
you,
ma'am
that
you
will
also
get
in
the
mix
because
of
your
volunteerism
and
wanting
to
preserve
historical
buildings.
I
hear
what
counselor
garrett
is
saying,
so
I
just
think.
I
really
think
this
is
part
of
us
preserving
history.
Once
it's
torn
down
it's
over
it's
gone,
and
this
is
not
you're
doing
an
excellent
job.
I'm
glad
that
the
meredith
city
manager
has
this
program
for
blight.
AC
This
is
blight
here,
so
we're
on
the
right
path,
but
I
think
there's
exceptions
to
every
rule
stringent
this,
and
I
think
this
is
one
thing
that
we
may
not
regret,
slowing
down
and
I'm
just
saying
slow
the
process
down
enough
for
the
lady
and
others
interested
in
this
building
here
can
bring
to
us
and
say
it
is
very
historical
and
do
whatever
our
due
diligence
to
save
it.
AC
D
We
will
certainly
do
that
and
again
we
would
do
everything
we
can.
You
know,
but
I've
got.
D
When
we
come
back
to
you,
if
it's
christmas
time,
you're
still
going
to
see
this
here
in
december,
because
you
know
when
it's
historic
property,
I
think
people
know
that
you
know
you
got
to
go
through
an
act
of
congress
and
they've,
ordered
that
you
know
they.
Don't
they
don't
have
a
sense
of
urgency
and
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
do
everything
we
can.
Okay.
S
A
D
S
I
mean
that's
your
best
professional
source
to
find
out
if
that
building's
salvageable
it
really
is,
and
if
they
come
in
and
tell
you
it's
dangerous,
then
then
it's
a
whole
new.
G
S
City
manager,
you
know
I'm
all,
for
I
mean
I'm
all
for
saving
historic
structures,
but
you
know
I've
talked
to
you
many
times
about
buildings
down
there
of
things
that
are
happening,
and
you
know-
and
you
heard
that
and
took
care
of
it
and
whatever
happens
if
this
building
stays
there,
it
needs
to
be
secured,
it
needs
to
be
stabilized
and
cleaned
up
and
and
put
in
a
position
that
nobody
can
get
hurt
or
no
type
of
deviant
activities
are
happening
in
this
area.
K
Mr
pruitt,
it's
my
understanding
that
you
have
the
authority
under
our
rules
and
regs,
to
board
this
property
up
and
then
charge
the
owner
for
the
material
and
the
labor
and
so
forth.
I
would
request
I'm
not
making
the
motion
that
you
do
this,
but
request
that
you
take
a
look
at
this
and
see
what
your
recommendation
would
be
in
boarding
it
up,
and
if
you
could
do
that
before
you
bring
it
back
on
the
first
reading.
K
Just
to
give
us
an
idea
of.
Is
that
a
possibility?
Is
that
something
that
we
can
do
to
help
keep
the
kids
out
and
so
forth?
If
you
could
bring
that
back
to
us
when
you
come
back
for
first
reading,
I
think
that
might
be
helpful
too.
AB
Oh
just
my
only
observations.
Looking
at
the
budget,
36
000
was
allocated
to
tear
this
building
down.
The
property
was
purchased
for
200
000
36
000
would
go
a
long
way
towards
stabilizing
this
building
and
shoring
it
up.
Thank.
B
F
P
AD
M
AD
Lang
I
live
at
2
30
lake
rebel
drive
in
fortson
georgia.
I
was
born
and
raised
in
columbus
graduated
columbus
high
school
in
1992..
My
first
house
here
in
2000
I
currently
own
and
manage
a
real
estate
firm
as
qualifying
broker
since
2005.,
I'm
here
today
to
defend
the
property
at
38,
22
30
avenue,
which
I
owned
and
acquired
in
2014
in
the
beautiful
north
highland
subdivision.
AD
I
I'm
committed
to
preserving
the
property
and
I
just
wanted
to
be
present
here
today
as
the
owner.
We
have
a
lot
of
absentee
owners
and
I'm
not
one
of
them.
I'm
of
limited
fine
bandwidth
and
financial
capacity
to
just
immediately
click
my
heels
together
to
renovate
this
thing
and
get
it
up
speed.
But
I
did
in
response
to
the
letter
that
I
got
to
appear
today,
clean
up.
AD
Quite
a
bit
just
to
make
a
reasonable
effort
to
show.
I
have
good
intentions
and
to
do
my
part,
my
timetable
is
not
necessarily
the
timetable
of
the
cities
to
get
it
renovated,
but
I
have
made
progress
on
the
liens
on
that
property
that
started
at
110
000
in
2014
and
now
stand
at
approximately
20
000.
AD
I
would
like
to
ask
the
city
to
allow
me
to
work
directly
with
code
enforcement
rather
than
having
to
reappear
before
the
council.
I
know
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
steep
request,
but
the
last
interaction
I
had
with
code
enforcement
was
in
march
of
2020
in
the
honda
covid
I
had
contracted
to
a
gentleman
to
do
repairs
on
it.
AD
He
took
down
the
boards
that
were
on
the
windows
that
had
stood
there
for
the
length
of
time
that
I
owned
the
property
and
even
longer
than
that,
we
subsequently
put
the
boards
back
up,
and
I
was
told
that
as
long
as
that
remained
the
condition
that
there
would
be
no
more.
You
know
enforcement
interaction
and
until
I
got
the
letter
I
just
was,
I
was
kind
of
blindsided
it
to
some
degree
in
appearing
here
today.
AD
So
if
I
could
work
with
directly
with
mr
pruitt,
I
would
appreciate
that
I
did
speak
with
him
this
morning
and
he
gave
me
some
encouragement
that
they
would
be
willing
to
work
with
me,
and
I
intend
to
do
that.
I
did
also
list
the
property
for
sale
on
mls
locally
and
I
would
like
to
request
90
days
to
get
the
property
sold
to
a
qualifying
investor.
If
I
can't
be
given
the
timetable
that
I
personally
need
and
lastly,
that's,
a
sort
of
a
material
fact
is.
A
AD
AD
I'm
so
sorry
I
told
you
I
could
talk
loud
and
I'm
not
doing
it
this
this
property
here
is
my
house
and
three
of
my
immediate
neighbors
houses
are,
are
burnt
severely,
and
I've
already
had
conversations
with
potential
investors
and
they're
there's
a
there's.
A
real
threat
of
arson
risk
immediately
there,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
city's
timetable
for
taking
care
of
some
of
that
blight
is.
But
if
I
could
have
your
assistance
and
guidance
on
what
your
timetable
is,
it
could
help
me
decide
what
mine
needs
to
be.
AD
So
this
is
my
immediate
neighbor
to
the
left.
This
fire
happened
on
the
third
of
march
subsequent
to
getting
me
getting
this
letter
or
actually
five
days
prior
to
me,
getting
this
letter
subsequent
to
the
day
that
it
was
sent
out.
So
this
is
something
that
maybe
code
enforcement
doesn't
isn't
even
aware
of,
and
the
the
damage
of
that
house
is
extensive.
I
don't
think
it
can
be
restored
in
any
reasonable
fashion
and
it's
fair
to
say
that
with
the
owners
there
they
may
have
plans,
I'm
not
sure,
because
it's
so
recent.
AD
AD
AD
This
property
is,
is
very
severely
burned,
dilapidated
across
the
street
that
fire
happened
in
january
of
2021
a
year.
You
know
a
little
over
a
year
ago
and
this
property
was
also
burnt
two
years
ago
in
in
december
of
2020.,
so
that
those
are
just
legitimate
concerns
that
I
have
that
they
have
obviously
affect
the
marketability
of
the
property,
and
I
just
want
your
help
and
getting
guidance
moving
forward.
G
Justin,
have
you
disclosed
that
the
city
of
columbus
has
notified
you
about
your
property
that
you
said
you
listed
on
the
mls.
AD
My
realistic
timetables
in
the
next
two
years
I
mean
just
just
being
honest
with
you
that
doesn't
mean
I
can't
make
progress
as
if
I'm
forced
to
and
I'll
look
at
the
city
spitting
the
money
to
tear
it
down,
which
I
don't
think
we
should
do,
but
that
would
be
my
ideal
timetable
and,
frankly,
with
the
other
burned
houses,
I
really
would
like
some
input,
or
at
least
some
direction
on
where
to
go,
to
get
that
input
to
communicate
directly
with
the
city
on
what
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
those.
Y
AD
F
B
I
think
a
lot
of
that
depends
on
what
you're
able
to
work
out,
mr
pruitt,
because
technically
once
that
process
starts
process
continues
these
will.
These
are
in
some
stage
of
that
same
process,
so
it'll
follow
the
same
same
road
that
yours
will,
but
that's
why
I
say:
if
I
mean
if
this
pruitt
makes
a
determination
that
you're
making
some
plans
and
can
show
him
what
you're
going
to
do
and
when
you're
going
to
do
it,
you
know
he
may
he
may
come
back
with
a
different
recommendation.
Y
Yes,
so
when
we
first
start
a
demolition
case,
I
can
back
up.
I
have
a
slide
so
when
we
get
notified
or
get
a
complaint
or
our
officers
on
their
own
find
a
dilapidated
property
that
meets
the
criteria
for
demolition,
which
that
criteria
is
that
it's
going
to
cost
more
than
50
percent
of
the
property's
value
to
fix
up
the
property.
That's
what
qualifies
a
property
for
the
demolition
list.
The
first
step
is
to
to
notify
the
owner
and
schedule
a
demolition
hearing,
so
we're
required
by
ordinance
to
send
certified
mail.
Y
Y
Then
we
hold
the
hearing,
the
hearing's
held
by
me,
and
my
staff
at
that
hearing.
The
owner
has
an
opportunity
to
let
us
know
their
plans
show
cause
why
the
property
shouldn't
be
demolished
really
just
have
kind
of
a
similar
conversation
that
we're
doing
with
this,
this
particular
property.
That
hearing
was
held
back
in
the
early
part
of
2020.
Y
Then
the
owner
is
given
another
notice
which
either
we
hand
deliver
it
to
them.
At
the
hearing
or
again,
we
have
to
send
certified
mail
if
they
don't
come
to
the
hearing.
That's
a
45
day
notice,
which
basically
puts
the
requirement
on
the
owner
to
start
repairs
within
45
days
and
then,
if
they
fail
to
do
that,
the
next
step
is
to
send
another.
F
A
W
AD
Honest
experienced
opinion:
this
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
property.
It's
a
duplex.
It's
one
bedroom
one
bath
on
either
side.
It's
gonna
take
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
fix
it
up
frankly,
but
it's
a
hundred
thousand
property
based
upon
a
gross
rate
multiplier
of
a
hundred
so
and
with
ramps
going
up.
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
a
problem
to
get
500
aside
once
it's
done,
so
it's
a
viable
project.
It's
not
just
something!
I'm
here
to
ask
you!
Please
don't
knock
it
down,
because
I
won't
forever.
B
Well
and
it'll
it'll
it'll
stay
on
for
second
reading
in
two
weeks,
and
but
that
gives
you
some
time
I
think,
like
I
said,
to
talk
to
mr
pruitt
and
see
if
there's
something
you
can
work
out
all
right,
we'll
do.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
lane.
P
Not
sure
if
that's
in
an
estate
or
not
we'll
need
to
check
on
that,
mr
pruitt
next
one
2614
avenue
dennis
deal.
Anybody
present.
P
P
Y
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
couple
slides
to
update
where
we
are
at
overall
with
our
demolition
list
and
the
progress
we've
made
over
the
last
several
years.
So
this
is
a
look
back
over
the
last
three
or
four
years
and
you
can
read
on
the
slide
in
2019,
the
city
itself
demolished
20
properties.
Y
Two
of
those
were
large
trailer
parks,
one
on
old,
casita
and
one
on
far
road
in
2020.
Again
it
was
another
20
properties
in
2021
it
went
up
to
23
properties
and
so
far
to
date
this
year
the
city's
contractor
has
taken
down
five
properties
to
date,
and
you
can
also
see
the
numbers
that
the
private
property
owners
have
taken
care
of.
Y
Now,
here's
a
slide
summarizing
the
funds
that
have
been
expended
the
last
four
fiscal
years,
so
the
fy
22
number
does
not
include
the
200
plus
thousand
dollars,
that's
in
front
of
you
tonight,
but
you
can
see
the
total
is
over
1.8
million
dollars
and
then
this
graph,
I
think,
is
a
good
representation,
so
the
the
blue
bars.
Those
are
the
number
of
cases
that
we
opened
each
countless
calendar
years
here.
The
blue
bar
is
the
number
of
cases
we
opened
each
year,
so
you
can
see
in
2021
we
open
51
new
demolition
cases.
Y
That
means
we
found
51
dilapidated
properties
that
we
opened
cases
and
started
proceedings
on
the
red
or
the
orange
is
the
number
of
cases
we
closed
each
year
that
were
either
demolished
by
the
city
repaired
or
demolished
by
the
property
owner,
and
then
the
gray
bar
is
a
total
cumulative
number
of
the
total
number
of
open
cases.
So
you
go
back
to
2018.
Y
Our
demolition
list
was
up
to
almost
150
properties.
Long
due
to
all
the
money
and
the
effort
that's
been
spent,
we've
brought
that
down
down
to
90
as
of
december
31st
of
2021,
and
you
can
see
we're
making
progress
every
year
and
plan
on
continuing
to
do
that.
So
basically,
the
90
represents
the
cases
that
have
been
opened
in
the
last
two
years,
so
we're
out
of
cases
that
date
back
to
2012
2013
we're
strictly
pretty
much
dealing
with
2020
and
2021
cases
from
here
on
out
I'll,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
S
I'm
going
to
take
this
moment
to
to
help
councillor
woodson
out
a
little
bit,
but
she's
talked
about
it.
I've
talked
about
it
before
there's
a
property
in
her
district
that
it
just
seems
like
nothing
ever
happens.
It's
a
retail
strip
center
across
from
you
know
where
the
flea
market
is.
I
think
it's
bull
creek
right
there
going
down
victory,
drive
on
the
other
side,
it
just
it.
Could
somebody
go
out
there
and
take
a
look
at
that?
S
I
know
council
woodson
can
confirm
it,
but
that's
been
on
my
mind
for
a
long
time.
I
do
a
lot
of
business
on
the
south
end
of
town.
My
mother-in-law
lives
over
there.
I
I
get
my
hair
cut.
I
do
a
lot
of
things
over
there
on
the
south
end
of
town,
and
I
see
it
all
the
time
and
it
just
it.
You
know
it's
not
being
addressed.
Could
somebody
take
a
look
at
that?
E
Huff
yeah,
I
need
one
give
him
one
before
he
leaves.
If
you
don't
mind,
excuse
me
on
amos
street
brown,
avenue
namaste
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
There's
serious
squatting
going
on.
E
We've
had
the
police
to
go
out
and
some
other
people-
and
I
just
got
a
text
message
asking
please
please,
please
they
are
starting
to
start
fires
over
in
there
to
stay
warm
and
they're,
using
it
to
cook
on
and
everything,
but
the
resident
lives
on
the
south
side
down
the
corner,
but
on
the
coin
you
can't
miss
it
on
the
corner
of
brown
avenue
and
amos
street
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
Okay.
Thank
you.
P
M
Yeah,
I
think,
we've
all
heard
from
some
cpas
that
doing
business.
We
extended
this
made
this
extension
last
year
and
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
to
do
it
this
year
to
help
all
of
them
out
this
time.
So.
P
M
B
Thank
you
all
right,
we'll
move
the
public
agenda.
Please
remember:
you'll
have
five
minutes.
We
ask
you
to
start
by
giving
your
name
and
your
address
and
we
won't
start
the
timer
until
after
you've
done
that
and
then
unfortunately,
five
minutes
is
all
you
can
have
on
on
this
particular
item.
But
we
can,
if
you
have
more,
you
need
to
say
you're
welcome
to
stick
around
till
after
the
clerk's
agenda
and
we'll
give
you
an
additional
three
three
minutes.
B
B
All
right,
miss
palmer
is
not
here,
mr
paul
olsen
regarding
the
mayor's
biography
city,
purchase
of
synovus
building
and
double
roundabout
intersection
of
lynch
road
and
highway
80..
Mr
olsen
hang
on
just
second.
Let
me
pull
this
up.
X
It
I
signed
a
form
and
they
agreed
that
they
put
it
up
there
anyway.
My
name
is
paul
olsen.
I
live
at
one
three,
eight
three
zero
jupitery
lane
and
if
they
would
have
put
it
up
there,
it
was
on
the
city's
website.
It
shows
mayor
henderson's
biography,
where
he
attended
columbus
state
and
also
columbus
college
and.
X
Interrupted
anyway,
columbus
college
anyway,
I
put
in
an
open
records,
request
and
stated
that
he
did
not
obtain
a
degree,
and
you
say
well,
what's
the
big
deal
about
that
well
years
earlier,
a
friend
of
mine
and
his
name
is
randy
lunsford
he's
vice
president
of
senior
vice
president
of
cbnt
and
synovus
hired
mayor
henderson
with
just
a
high
school
diploma,
and
who
would
the
largest
bank
in
the
city
of
columbus,
cbnt
and
synovus
would
hire
somebody
with
just
a
high
school
diploma
unless
he
was
a
city
councilor,
he
was
the
same
person
who
fired
you,
mayor
henderson,
and
he
told
me
that
okay,
so
therefore,
he
also
worked
in
the
same
building
that
we
purchased
for
25
million.
X
The
real
problem
is
that
the
tax
assessors
has
it
at
23
million.
It's
225
000
square
feet,
100
square
foot,
22.5
million,
rounded,
to
23
million.
Why
did
we
not
have
mayor
a
buyer's
agent,
charmaine
she's
left.
You
know
I
have
a
real
estate
license.
You
have
a
real
estate
license,
especially
when
it
comes
to
a
commercial
piece
of
property.
You
need
to
have
him
to
protect
all
interests
in
the
disclosures.
X
There's
hazmat
for
hazardous
materials
and
also
for
lead-based
paint,
plus
any
other
defects
and
deficiencies,
and
it's
like
going
into
a
courtroom
and
as
an
attorney
walker,
you
would
never
advise
somebody.
That's
looking
at
the
death
penalty
to
not
have
an
attorney
to
represent
him
by
not
having
a
buyer's
agent
to
represent
him.
Then
in
essence.
X
Basically,
we
have
no
protection
at
all,
and
the
thing
is:
is
that
no
one
in
their
right
mind
would
spend
25
million
to
buy
a
property
and
then
spend
another
25
million
dollars
for
renovation
and
repairs,
and
the
real
problem
is
in
the
contract.
In
the
closing
statement-
and
this
is
what
the
attorney
said
said-
this
is
from
the
seller
to
the
purchaser
and
we're
the
purchaser
first
is
recognize
and
acknowledge
that
the
closing
attorney
has
not
been
requested
to
and
has
not
undertaken
any
investigation
of
the
condition
of
the
property
of
any
environmental
matters.
X
Is
that
we're
totally
blindsided
in
the
fact
that
in
this
25
million
dollars
in
renovation,
we
do
not
know
in
line
itemization
and
work
orders
what
you
are
repairing
and
in
essence,
if
we
would
have
had
a
buyer's
agent,
he
would
have
been
able
to
disclose
that
and
find
out.
And
so
therefore,
instead
of
paying
the
23
million-
and
it
was
10
million
in
repairs
out
of
that
25
million
dollars
in
renovation,
we
could
have
bought
it
for
13
million
and
the
real
joke
is
going
to
be
on
us.
X
The
taxpayers,
because
cbnt
in
sonomas
was
novice
now
is
going
to
their
intention,
is
to
move
to
atlanta,
and
you
know
mayor
henderson
knows
that
I
mean
it's
even
been
put
in
the
newspaper
that
they
have
intentions.
You
know
they're
one
of
the
largest
banks,
that's
not
located
in
a
major
city.
X
So
therefore
I
just
want
to
give
you
that
warning
order.
So,
lastly,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
ter,
the
roundabouts-
I
don't
know
if
anybody
knows
but
there's
a
roundabout
going
to
be
there
at
chatsworth,
not
chatsworth,
but
the
lynch
road
and
macon
road
making
highway
highway.
80.-
and
the
thing
is-
is
that
there's
going
to
be
another
one
where
that
chevron
gas
station
is
so
it's
going
to
be
like
a
double
roundabout
within
300
yards
and
mayor
henderson,
and
I've
discussed
it
before,
and
I
said
yes,
fine
and
dandy.
X
If
you
have
something
like
that,
you
know
on
a
secondary
road,
but
not
on
a
main
thoroughfare,
because
you're
going
to
have
to
push
all
that
traffic
from
a
four
lane
down
to
a
two
lane
on
chatsworth
road
where,
when
it
it
goes
across
a
railroad
track
that
sometimes
stops
traffic
for
20
to
30
minutes,
then
they
have
to
access
and
get
back
on
macon
road
going
westbound
on.
X
D
Deputy
city
manager
hodge
to
just
pull
up
a
document
related
to
the
purchase
acquisition
of
the
sonova's
property
and,
of
course
you
know,
we
we've
presented
that
here
public
very
aware
of
the
acquisition
it's
been
reported
by
the
media,
but
it's
250,
000
250
000
square
feet
that
we
were
able
to
actually
get
for
24.5
million
dollars,
plus
a
600
space
garage
plus
a
634
space
garage
and
we're
going
to
show
you
the
property
and
the
furniture
and
the
furniture.
D
And
so
I
know
that
you
know
most
real
estate
agents
would
know
that
that's
a
pretty
good
deal,
and
and
and
when
you
look
at
the
quality
inside
the
building,
the
marble
floors
and
walls
and
so
forth.
You
know
that
you're
getting
something
extra
special
and
so
would
you
would
you
just
share
so
because
it
is
important
that
when
people
provide
erroneous
information,
bad
information,
that
we
set
the
record
straight
as
quickly
as
possible?
AE
Absolutely
this
was
a
presentation
that
was
done
back
in
september
of
2021
related
to
the
property
acquisition
of
the
synovus
buildings,
and
I
will
say
just
to
add
to
that.
We
did
extensive
review
of
that
building
with
our
architects
with
our
construction
manager,
they
brought
in
specialists
for
plumbing
electrical
hvac,
evaluated
all
the
systems
in
the
building
thoroughly
multiple
times,
and
we
do
have
an
itemization
of
everything
that
will
be
done
as
part
of
the
renovation
they
evaluated
all
the
systems.
AE
Anything
that
had
a
useful
life
less
than
10
years
will
be
replaced
as
part
of
this
renovation
so
that
we
do
have
a
building,
that's
sustainable
for
many
years
into
the
future.
We
looked
at
the
roof,
so
everything
about
the
buildings
was
evaluated
by
our
architect
and
construction
management
team,
along
with
ryan
pruitt,
our
inspection
and
codes
director
and
all
the
consultants
that
came
with
them.
AE
These
are
the
different
buildings
that
we
acquired:
the
jordan
building,
bradley
building
the
main
office,
the
uptown
center
and
then
the
parking
facility,
a
picture
of
the
main
office
which
sits
on
the
corner
of
broadway,
the
bradley
building
right
next
to
the
main
office,
building
the
jordan
building
further
down
broadway
the
uptown
center,
which
is
off
the
first
avenue
side
and
then
the
parking
facility,
so
that
acquisition
was
a
purchase
price
of
25
million.
AE
D
And
mr
mayor,
you
know
we
had
architects,
obviously
heavily
involved
and
and
and
let
me
just
say
that
we
have
an
architecture,
an
architect
team
of
local
architects,
as
well
as
slam.
D
From
orlando
from
orlando,
so
we're
not
just
you
know,
out
of
town
and
local
architects
are
partnered
and
they
looked
at.
We
looked
at
a
number
of
different
buildings
throughout
this
community
and
of
all
of
the
buildings
and
properties
we
looked
at.
This
property
was
the
number
one
without
question,
and
we've
done
all
the
due
diligence.
As
the
deputy
city
manager
indicated,
we've
inspected
every
system,
not
only
as
she
said,
the
architects
were
there.
The
construction
manager
was
there
ryan
pruitt
who's
icc
certified
was
there,
we
had
public
works
employees
who
would
work
on
systems.
D
B
And
I
think
there's
a
couple
other
little
things
too,
that
are,
I
want
to
point
out:
synovus
isn't
leaving
in
fact,
sonova's
just
announced
that
they're
consolidating
their
headquarters
right
there
in
a
brand
new
river
riverfront
place,
and-
and
on
top
of
that,
I
think
the
staff
did
a
very
wise
thing
and
and
actually
used
a
mix
of
taxable
and
non-taxable
bonds,
so
that
it
would
leave
us
the
option
of
returning
some
of
that
storefront
back
to
retail
or
restaurant
or
whatever,
and
we're
also
going
to
be
consolidating
a
lot
of
our
other
buildings
being
able
to
put
them
back
on
the
tax
rolls.
B
So
it's
just
I
mean
it
was,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
net
neutral
in
cost
to
the
taxpayers.
It
was
probably
as
good
as
good
a
transaction
for
the
taxpayers,
as
could
possibly
happen.
S
Well,
while
we're
on
the
subject,
I
mean
just
to
to
expand
on
what
you
two
gentlemen
were
just
talking
about.
If
you
really
subtract
the
parking
deck
out
of
it,
you
got
a
parking,
that's
worth
20,
25
million
easy.
S
I
mean
current
smaller
terms,
you
know
and
when
you,
when
you
look
at
it
from
that
way,
it's
it's
a
significant
deal
having
that
part
conduct
there,
but
I
just
got
an
email
and
we'll
take
this
opportunity,
while
you're
all
discussing
the
topic
from
a
gentleman
that
he
actually
just
asked
about
pressure
washing
the
parking
deck.
S
Now,
when
you
look
at
the
photo
that
you
just
showed
up
there,
it
looks
very,
very
clean,
and
quite
frankly,
I
can't
tell
you
right
now:
if
it's
been
done
or
not,
but
can
we
make
sure
that
the
facade
of
the
parking
deck
is
pressure
washed
and
cleaned
up,
because
it
would,
it
would
be
a
big
improvement
for
that
area
and
really
bring
a
little
vibrancy
to
that
area.
It's
a
lot
of
acid
rain
on
it.
Last
time
I
saw
it,
I'm
not
sure.
D
S
And
if
anybody
knows
construction,
what
it
costs
per
parking
space
to
pay,
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
lot
of
money
to
have
a
parking
deck.
D
B
B
All
right,
if
you
would
just
it's
for
the
record
state,
your
name
and
your
address.
AF
My
name
is
jerome
lawson
2922,
howard
avenue.
I
am
the
owner
of
twist
skillet
llc
food
truck,
I'm
here
today
to
talk
about
the
arp
program,
issues,
confusion
and
unaccountability.
AF
Now
I
submitted
my
paperwork
for
the
arp
grant
and
I
was
denied
because
my
business
wasn't
in
existence
before
2019..
That
was
that
was
the
criteria
for
denying
my
arp
grant.
Now,
I'm
going
to
prove
to
you
all
that
I
was
in
business
within
the
eligibility
time
frame
stated
in
the
application
for
the
arp
grant.
That's
why
I
titled
it
confusion
and
unaccountability.
AF
AF
AF
This
is
the
eligibility
printed
out
in
the
arp
program,
okay
overview
and
it's
for
rent
a
mortgage
utility
and
or
operational
retrofitting.
So
any
upgrades
anything
you
did
to
your
business
doing
covet
to
accommodate
the
covet
impact
you're
supposed
to
be
reimbursed
for
that.
According
to
the
arp,
that
was
billing
all
right.
AF
This
right
here
highlighted
yellow
it
says
to
be
be
considered
for
the
arp
business
grant
program,
a
business
must
meet
all
eligibility
listed
below
okay.
I
just
want
to
point
this
out
because
some
reason
some
people
didn't
get
it
all
right
right
here.
It
says
for-profit
businesses
who
can
demonstrate
ongoing
business
operations
since
march
1st
2019
right
y'all
see
that
that's
not
my
writing.
That's
an
arp
grant
package
copy
of
current
city
of
columbus
business
license
sole
proprietor
certification,
2020
schedule
c.
If
you
got
to
have
a
20
20
schedule,
we'll
see
you.
AF
AF
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
red
real
fast,
and
these
are
the
emails
of
the
correspondence
that
I
emailed
with
staff
from
the
arp
board,
because
after
they
denied
me,
I
sent
them
an
email
asking
to
explain
their
denial,
saying
that
I
wasn't
open
before
2019
when
the
eligibility
specifically
said
march
1st
2019
since
that
day,
not
before,
but
since,
and
somehow
we're
trying
to
make
before
sense
mean
the
same
thing.
Apparently
now
it
says
thank
you
for
applying
for
the
city
of
columbus,
arp,
small
business
grant.
This
came
from
the
arp
columbuschamber.com.
AF
AF
So
the
reason
why
I'm
here
today
is
because
the
dates
have
no
clarity
which
makes
it
misleading.
Since
march
the
1st
2019
and
before
march,
the
1st
2019
are
two
different
meetings:
funding
reimburses
only
from
june
2020
they're
only
funding
you
from
june
2020
going
forward.
So
what
relevancy
does
march
the
1st
2019
have
within
the
eligibility?
Why
does
it
state
that,
if
you
can't
upload
your
2020
business
license
then
use
your
20
2019
then
use
your
2020
business
license.
B
And-
and
we
may
be
able
to
get
you
some
of
that,
mr
scott,
you
want
to
reply
to
that.
Yes,
ms
lawson,
thank
you,
sir.
AG
AG
What
that
means
is
that
a
business
would
have
had
to
been
established
prior
to
march
1st
2019,
when
mr
lawson
applied
for
the
grant
application.
The
business
that
he
started
was
effectively
started
on
march
18th
of
2019
under
the
name
of
twisted
skillet.
He
then
had
a
name
change
in
2020,
which
then
became
twist
skillet.
The
thing
is
the
the
program
is
designed
to
show
that
you
were
in
business
prior
to
march
1st
2019.
AG
The
business
license
that
we
were
able
to
find
does
not
show
that
the
business
license
shows
that
the
business
was
established
on
march
18th.
We
have.
This
is
17
days
past
the
date
in
which
you
should
have
had
that
license,
and
so
what
the
body
decided
to
do,
and
what
I
decided
to
do
is
because
I
felt
where
mr
lawson
was
coming
from.
I
asked
for
an
exception.
You
know.
In
this
particular
case
an
exception
was
not
granted.
B
We
have
a
couple
questions.
Mr
councillor,
john
house,.
AH
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Mr
scott,
where
did
the
dates
come
from?
Was
that
a
federal
requirement
with
the
arp
money.
AG
Well,
at
the
time
that
this
grant
grant
process
was
developed,
the
arp
final
rule
hadn't
come
out.
We
were
trying
our
best
to
get
the
proc
the
product
out
to
the
community,
so
we
followed
interim
regulation
at
the
time
and
so
for
us
it
was
just
as
clear
as
that.
You
know
we
followed
the
regulation
that
was
in
front
of
us
at
the
time,
but
then
the
final
rule
came
out
later.
AG
You
know,
but
we
were,
I
already
had
the
product
in
the
street,
so
this
it's
hard
to
change
a
product
once
you
have
it
deployed
in
a
community
as
large
as
ours.
AH
AG
AG
AG
No,
the
expenses
had
occurred
during
the
period.
The
period
in
which
the
expenses
should
have
been
occurred
was
july,
1st
2020
to
through
present.
However,
the
requirement
required
that
businesses
have
had
to
have
been
established
prior
to
march
1st
march.
1St
was
the
cutoff
for
businesses
to
have
been
started
to
participate
in
this
project.
AH
B
E
I
met
with
mr
lawson
friday
because
I've
been
eating
that
for
years,
and
I
was
around
during
the
time
that
he
had
some
situational
circumstances
with
his
partner,
so
he's
been
in
business
a
while
and
he
had
to
change
to
get
the
partner
out
for
him
to
be
a
sole
proprietor
of
his
business,
which
had
him
to
change
licenses
to
give
a
different
date.
So
as
far
as
the
director
going
by
the
dates,
the
dates
are
correct,
but
there
should
be
some
type
of
exception
or
something
because
he
really
was
in
business.
AE
E
E
E
E
AE
E
F
E
E
AE
F
D
AF
AF
Okay,
thank
you.
So
if
I
was
led
by
you
through
this
process,
then
why
stand
before
the
council
and
make
it
look
like
I'm
stupid
the
bit
the
eligibility?
I
just
picked
this
up
on
the
table.
It
says
since
march
1st
2019,
if
you're
going
to
be
misleading
and
wait
till
the
product
is
out
there
and
say
no,
we
meant
before
that
is
misleading
the
community.
AF
That
is
wrong
and
if
you
drop
the
ball,
that's
okay.
People
make
mistakes,
but
don't
hold
me
accountable
because
you
all
didn't
clarify
something
that
you
had
the
responsibility
to
clarify
and
you're
going
to
stand
here
before
the
public
and
say:
oh,
we
meant
before.
If
you
meant
before.
Why
didn't
you
put
it
in
the
eligibility
stipulations?
AF
And
then
you
said
we're
only
reimbursing
you
from
june
2020,
then
2019
doesn't
make
a
difference
because
you're
not
reimbursing
business
businesses.
From
that
day
we
need
to
have
accountability
from
our
leaders,
and
I
ask
that
you
all
vote
in
my
behalf,
because
I've
been
an
integrable
business
in
columbus,
doing
the
right
thing
in
my
community,
and
I
got
to
stand
here
and
have
people
to
treat
me
like
this
because
they
dropped
the
ball.
He
just
said
we
basically
just
put
something
together
and
put
it
out
there
because
of
the
time
restriction.
AF
Kovic
was
heavy,
but
don't
make
me
suffer
because
you
just
dropped
the
ball.
It's
okay,
people
make
mistakes,
we
grow,
we
get
better,
but
integrity.
Won't.
Allow
me
to
sit
here
and
make
it
seem.
Like
I
didn't
do
what
I
was
told
to
do.
I
appreciate
the
favor,
but
I
don't
really
accept
favors,
like
that.
I
don't
ask
people
for
favors,
I
earn
what
I
get
and
I
work
hard.
AF
AF
AF
This
isn't
the
thing
that
the
community
can
say:
oh,
they
did
the
right
thing
because
they
did
and
I
sat
there
and
I
read-
and
I
said
businesses
ongoing
business
since
march
1st
2019
that
doesn't
indicate
before
and
if
it
did,
they
should
have
said
so
they
could
have
said
so,
but
they
didn't
because
we
know
that
the
funds
don't
get
depleted.
They
go
back
to
the
city,
but
we
need
to
incorporate
this
and
redistribute
these
funds
to
our
people
out
here
that
are
working
hard
people
out
here
that
deserve
a
push
and
a
boost.
AF
The
brother
sat
there
and
told
me
what
I
needed
to
do
and
I
fought
that
and
now
that
it
didn't
work
out,
you
should
stand
behind
me.
Forget
a
job
stand
behind.
What's
right,
that's
what
it's
about!
I
did
everything
the
application
said
and
I
had
to
switch
business
partners.
I
couldn't
control
that,
but
it
said
since
march
the
1st.
So
that
means
that,
starting
at
march
the
1st
2019
going
forward,
that's
what
sense
means
and
we
need
to
honor
that.
D
Mr
mayor,
yes,
if
I
may,
I
I'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
it.
I
I
haven't
seen
that
so
I
don't
know,
but
let
me
give
you
no,
I
can
get
it
from
staff.
AE
Our
internal
committee
is
made
up
of
myself:
deputy
city
manager,
lisa
goodwin
finance,
director
angelica
alexander
I.t,
director
forrest
holy
and
hr
director
ruther
hollowell
on
the
arp
program
on
this
particular
program.
Director
rob
scott
was
brought
in
as
putting
together
the
application
process
for
small
business
tourism
and.
AE
So
the
review
process
is
done
with
startup
columbus.
We
went
in,
we
had
a
mou
with
startup
columbus
through
the
chamber.
Josh
beard
was
their
contact
person.
He
has
since
left.
The
chamber
and
tiffany
has
started
reviewing
the
applications,
but
rob
scott
has
been
answering
their
question
and
assisting
them
with
the
interpretation
of
the
rules
that
we
developed
internally
with
staff.
B
AH
AF
Went
to
the
business
office
and
got
my
business
license.
The
transitioning
peer
winded
up
making
me
get
my
business
license
on
the
18th
of
march,
but
either
way
march
first
was
the
starting
date.
That's
the
first
that
they
were
going
back
as
far
as
validating
businesses.
So
if
it
was
march,
the
first
or
april
or
may
it
had,
the
deadline
was
according
to
this
like.
If
we
went
to
court,
this
would
be
a
reference
case
that
would
bust
it
open.
E
AI
I
did
want
to
ask:
I
know
that
it
was
stated
that
he
would
be
put
on
the
list
at
the
end
and
if
it
was
monies
left
over
that
we
could
possibly
approve
now
does
his
food
truck
qualified
as
the
tourism
and
hospitality,
because
you
know
we
are
aware
that
not
too
many
people
have
applied
for
those
dollars
and
if
he,
your
range,
isn't
within
that
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
and
he
qualified
you
know,
maybe
we
can
approve
him
under
the
hospitality
and
tourism.
AI
D
Option
we'll
take
a
look,
and
I
can
assure
you
you
know
we're
going
to
do
the
right
thing
whatever
it
is.
You
know
if
it's,
if
he's
right,
we'll
do
it.
If
he's
not
right,
we're
not
going
to
do
it,
and
so
we
will
do
the
right
thing.
We
got
a
few
more
councillor.
S
Davis,
msc
manager,
thank
you
for
being
willing
to
take
a
look
at
it.
I
was
going
to
ask
if
you
would
do
that
too.
I
think
that's
the
right
thing,
thank
you
and-
and
let
me
just
say,
I'm
not
defending
anybody,
but
a
lot
of
this
is
a
very,
very
confusing
act
coming
out
of
washington,
I'm
just
telling
you
on
the
federal
government
side:
okay,
it's
not
the
city
side,
not
the
state
side.
S
So
a
lot
of
these,
I
would
suspect
a
lot
of
these
deadlines
and
there
were
a
lot
of
deadlines
that
that
people
were
confused
on
across
the
board.
I
know
this
people
in
business-
I've
even
heard
it
from
them,
but
it
it
is
what
it
is.
It
came
out
of
washington
real
fast
and
they
tried
to
get
it
out
there
and
god
bless
the
ones
trying
to
put
it
together.
I
mean
it
was
just
you
know
a
fast
rapid
thing.
Am
I
right
on
that?
S
S
S
Here
to
there,
basically,
you
had
to
hear
their
timelines
within
that
I
mean,
but
you
guys
were
trying
to
put
all
this
together
and
there
were
several
different
pots
of
money
that
came
through
over
the
course
of
time.
So
you
know
a
lot
of
people
got
confused
over
that,
but
I
remember
them
talking
about
you
know.
Once
the
funds
are
depleted,
you
got
to
get
it
in
it's
kind
of
like
first
first
in
line
first
come
first
serve.
S
Am
I
right,
I
remember
hearing
that,
but
there
were
funds,
and
you
all
said
in
public
once
the
funds
are
gone,
but
it
sounded
like
in
this
conversation
that
I
heard
that
there
was
a
you
know.
Y'all
were
looking
closely
at
this
and
you
you
went
on
through,
and
probably
the
funds
were
de
depleted
and
and
we're
kind
of
stuck
in
this
situation
is
that
that.
AE
S
AF
B
B
S
You
know,
I
don't
know
how
y'all
could
pull
this
stuff
out
with
all
the
requirements,
and
I
mean
you
know
there
were
a
lot
of
phone
conversations
be
going
on
between
senators
and
congressmen
and
washington
representatives
and
even
amongst
the
council,
but
to
get
it
all
put
together
and
then
serve
the
community.
I
mean
I
wouldn't
want
to
be
doing
that
personally,
because
I
know
somebody
don't
get
missed
out.
I
know
you
know
some
stones
are
going
to
be
cast
my
way
and
I
wouldn't
want
that.
S
But
I
just
want
people
to
know
that
this
group
was
just
charged
to
try
to
do
the
best
they
can
to
get
it
out,
but
it
was.
The
program
was
set
and
put
in
place
in
washington
with
everything,
and
we
just
tried
to
do
the
best
we
can
and
mayor
how
many
times
have
you
talked
to
other
mayors
and
and
the
state
level,
and
on
trying
to
figure
all
this
stuff
out.
Quite
a
few
I
mean
miss
city
manager.
Am
I
right
yeah?
So
you
know
I.
S
AI
Yes-
and
I
know
rob-
and
I
I
know
director-
rob
and
deputy
city
manager
pam
hodges-
they
really
work
hard
on
putting
this
out
at
a
you
know
in
a
timely
manner.
What
I
do
know
is
that
the
cares
act.
You
know
we
we
based
the
arp
grant
in
reference
to
our
application
of
you
know
the
cares
act
with
some
arp
requirements
and
stipulations.
AI
However,
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
the
cares
act.
Requirements
are
completely
different.
That
was
state
versus
the
arp,
which
is
federal.
So
when
that
interim
final
rule,
they
did
not
have
these
dates.
You
know
included,
but
we
had
to
come
up
with
something
and
that's
why
we
use
the
cares
act
because
we
had
already
had
that
in
place.
AI
However
arp
the
only
stipulations
is
that
the
issues
that
you
face
have
to
be
during
the
pandemic,
so
whatever
business
or
nonprofit,
whatever
they
submit
as
a
need,
you
know
for
reimbursement,
it
hadn't
been
at
the
time
of
the
pandemic.
It
did
not
have
a
stipulation
based
on
the
time
a
business
had
to
start,
except
for
it
had
to
have
started
during
the
pandemic.
AI
However,
what
we
did
was
use
the
cares
act
because
we
wanted
to
help
the
citizens.
You
know
in
a
timely
manner
and
not
wait
today
to
the
final
rules
to
come
out
which
came
out
just
this
past
january.
So
it's
a
lot
of
this
was
a
I'm
gonna
say
like
a
moving
train.
Things
changed
continuously
from
the
moment
that
the
arp
and
we
just
hit
a
year
march
11-
was
the
annual
the
one
year
anniversary
of
arp.
AI
So
it
was
a
lot
of
updates
and
changes
to
the
the
arp
requirements,
but
you
know,
I
hope
that
we'll
be
able
to
to
help-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
know
later
on-
we'll
be
able
to
amend
the
requirements
that
will
basically
look
like
what
the
arp
really
was
set
for,
and
that
was
really
for
underserved
individuals,
people
that
have
faced
great
disparities
like
our
black
and
brown
business
owners,
and
that's
why
me
and
councillor
woodson,
really
went
hard
going
out
and
reaching
you
know
these
business
owners.
AI
B
D
D
We
laid
out
a
plan
for
grants
during
with
karazhak
dollars
for
small
business.
D
We
had
a
workshop
at
the
trade
center
and
went
through
that
process
and
and
then,
when
the
arp
dollars
came
out,
the
same
team
worked
very
hard
and
in
fact,
rob
scott
had
some
grant
money
in
the
cares
act
that
was
administered
that
they
were
able
to
receive,
and
then
they
took
that
application
process
and
just
carried
it
forward
to
become
the
arp
grant
process
and-
and
and
you
know,
it's
yeah,
I've
heard
people
talk
about
how
tough
the
application
is
and
and
I've
said
to
them.
D
You
know
the
ones
who
don't
get
discouraged
by
the
documents
you've
got
to
submit
because
it's
federal
money
we
just
can't
hand
out
money
without
accountability.
You
know,
and
so
that's
why
all
those
documents
are
required,
but
but
those
who
persevere
and
go
through
that
process,
then
they
will
get
the
money
and
those
who
you
know
don't
will
not
but
rob
scott
put
together
the
initial
application
process
and
this
one
and
you've
done
a
heck
of
a
job,
and
I
appreciate
that.
D
Yeah
so,
first
on
my
agenda,
the
sub
recipient
agreement,
columbus
department
of
public
health
for
cure
violence-
it's
up
to
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
arp
money
up
to
500
thousand
dollars
motion.
B
G
G
S
I
I
just
want
to
restate
this
again
and
and
with
this
program
I
mean
I'm
going
to
support
it,
but
I
did
the
first
time
this
came
to
us.
I
asked
about
how
we're
going
to
measure
productivity.
S
D
D
Do
we
use
a
metric
of
we
want
to
see
crime
reduced
by
the
certain
percentage
and
and
we
don't.
This
is
something
new
for
them.
It's
new
for
us
and
we're
trying
to
determine
you
know.
What's
the
right,
metrics
and
you
know,
do
we
say
we
want
to
see
crime
significantly
reduced
and
then
it
becomes
what
is
significant.
D
So
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
finance
director
on
the
metrics
and
so
we're
still
working
on
it,
trying
to
figure
it
out,
and
I
even
said
to
the
finance
director
when
we
were
going
back
and
forth.
You
know
if
we
look
at
new
york
or
we
look
at
chicago
where
they've
had
cure
violence,
you
know
their
metrics
may
not
make
sense.
D
I
mean
we
just
can't
say:
well,
they
did
this
in
chicago
or
new
york,
so
we
want
a
similar
reduction
in
something
in
columbus.
So
we're
still
working
to
try
to
figure
out
the
exact
metrics,
but
we
are
clear
that
we
need
some
measurable
goals,
expectations,
deliverables
and
so
we're
still
working
through
that.
P
D
D
We
got
to
try
and
get
it
right,
because
I
mean
I
could
say
reduced
by
50
and
that's
totally
unreasonable
and
so
we're
going
to
over
promise
you
know
and
under
deliver,
but
we
don't
want
to
say
about
10
and
under
promise
and
over
deliver.
We
just
to
feel
good
about
it.
So
if
you've
got
some
ideas
share
them,
but
I've
been
going
back
and
forth.
B
AI
AI
But
what
I
do
like
is
that
you're,
giving
a
summary
of
the
overall
community
outreach
and
mobile
mobilization
and
also
the
number
of
violence,
interruptions
and
detections
handled
by
type,
and
then
you
provide
the
number
of
participants
served
to
include
the
demographics
as
well.
So
it
seems
like
we're
collecting.
AI
You
know
some
good
data
that
we
can
and
then
it
looks
like
I
I'm
guessing
that
you're
gonna
come
back
and
do
a
report
is
that
on
an
annual
basis
or.
AJ
So
I
may
be
able
to
help
some
with
some
of
your
concerns,
councilman
david,
so
our
system
that
we
use
to
track
what
we're
doing
actually
will
give
our
reporting
part
of
our
process
is
always
to
have
continuous
reporting
analyzing,
what
we're
doing
to
ensure
that
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
It's
not
simply.
We
start
on
day
one
and
we
wait
365
days
before
we
have
any
interaction
or
changes.
So
this
is
always
an
ongoing
process.
We
have
a
database
that
we
we
put
information
in
that
database
does
repr
provide
reporting.
AJ
It
also
goes
to
our
global
contacts
to
help
us
through
any
kind
of
issues
that
we
may
be
seeing.
So
if
we
have
some
kind
of
special
outlier
that
maybe
hasn't
been
seen
before,
we're
able
to
identify
that
very
quickly
and
move
forward
we're
also
working
with
data
as
far
as
from
the
hospital
as
well
that
talks
about
each
event
and
how
per
event?
AJ
What
does
that
cost?
Because
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
look
at
is
not
just
the
homicide
piece
of
it
is
the
violent
piece
of
it
as
well,
where
we
have
people
going
into
the
hospital.
You
know
in
a
year
time
we,
after
about
1500,
violent
events
that
go
to
the
hospital,
probably
about
350
of
those
are
gunshot,
wound
victims,
and
you
can
probably
look
on
average
about
34
000
just
talking
about
maybe
the
hospital
piece
per
event,
but
on
a
national
scale.
AJ
You
look
at
about
150
000
when
you
add
all
the
people
involved
and
resources
involved
in
that
process.
So
if
we
reduce
that
by
10
or
more,
you
can
see
the
value
of
the
money,
that's
coming
back,
because
you
have
to
think
about
a
lot
of
these
events
from
I
mean
I
hate
to
talk
about
it
this
way,
but
in
some
of
those
instances
those
events
are
not
being
paid
for
so
once
again,
that
is
a
tax
on
the
city
and
the
taxpayers.
AJ
So
we
understand
that
that
is
one
of
the
metrics
that
we're
looking
at,
because
we
want
to
see
the
big
picture
of
what
does
it
cost
per
event?
It's
not
some!
It's
about
the
life
part
of
it.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
we
have
to
think
about.
Like
you
said,
return
on
investment.
You
have
to
see
where
you're
failing,
but
then
also
where
you're
also
making
improvements,
and
how
can
we
reinvest
the
money
saved
to
put
in
programs
that
can
help,
so
we
we
absolutely
agree
what
you're
asking
for,
and
we
want
that.
AJ
The
reason
why
we're
coming
on
the
health
department
is
because
of
that
credibility.
The
reporting
aspect
behind
that,
as
well
as
the
health
department,
already
serves
many
of
the
people
that
we're
talking
with.
So
you
look
at
about
125
000
and
just
in
30903
area.
42
of
those
are
under
the
property
level.
So
there's
things
that
we're
looking
at
that
go
along
with
this:
it's
not
simply
the
violence
phase,
but
it's
what's
causing
the
violence,
and
where
does
it
start?
So
we
totally
agree
with
what
you're
saying.
D
Absolutely
and
and
so
council
davis,
you
can
see
that
he's
talking
and
on
that
side,
but
I
I
mean
angelica
has
been
in
my
ear
about
it.
You
know
and
and
and
I
think
we've
gone-
we've
kind
of
argued
a
little
bit
about
it.
You
know
the
metrics
and
what
we
expect
going
back
and
forth.
So
I
want
you
know,
that's
been
a
conversation
for
us.
AJ
I
mean
we're
looking
at
you
know,
salaries
that
will
be
well
above
livable
wage,
so
in
that
instance
we're
already
making
impact
with
just
the
ten
we're
trying
to
hire
so
we're
trying
to
make
a
difference
immediately.
You
know
this
is
not
about
just
throwing
something
against
the
wall.
We
want
to
do
this
right
the
first
time
and
we
want
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
funding
that
we're
given
it's
very
important
for
us
to
change.
What's
going
on
in
our
communities
and
what
we're
trying
to
do.
AJ
You
know
we
also
just
got
through
talking
with
the
housing
authority
as
well
to
get
into
those
four
housing
projects
I
mean
out
of
that
is
307
kids
or
kids
in
that
14
to
25
year
range
that
we
we're
focused
on
so
we're
very
adamant
about
doing
it
right,
getting
it
right,
the
first
time
not
just
spending
the
money
but
making
sure
we
do
it
right.
So
we
can
have
return
on
investments
and
we
can
reinvest
that
money
and
other
programs
that
can
assist
in
other
areas.
B
D
So
I've
got
a
street
acceptance
portion
of
ripple
ridge
located
in
section
three
chair,
creek
rise.
B
B
D
Number
three
was
another
street
acceptance
recommended
by
engineering
department.
Number
four
was
the
purchase
of
5212
ray
street
for
140
thousand
dollars.
We've
got
a
drainage
pipe
going
underneath
the
house
and
we
didn't
have
any
other
option:
number
five
risk
management
donation
for
workers,
compensation
seminars
for
public
entities
number
six
is
a
acquisition
of
these
are
19
very
small,
tiny
parcels
of
property
directly
across
in
front
of
the
liberty
theater.
You
know
you
got
the
big
trees
over
there.
D
It's
a
vacant
lot,
you
know,
snyder
lance
is
no
longer
going
to
be
here
and
it's
just
vacant
property
and
and
it's
71
thousand
dollars
we
just
don't
want.
We
want
to
basically
control
the
property
but
it'll,
be
I
don't
want
to
say
flip,
but
go
for
economic
development
opportunities
that
we
can
control.
D
For
example,
we
might
not
want
a
gas
station
to
set
up
across
the
street
from
the
liberty
in
front
of
the
liberty,
so
we
just
want
the
right
business
to
come
and
want
to
do
something
with
it,
and
we've
got
property
all
around
that
property
that
we're
purchasing.
That
we've
assembled
that
it
could
really
be
an
economic
development
opportunity.
That's
what
that
is.
D
We've
got
georgia.
Traffic
incident
management
enhancement
task
force,
grant
it's
twelve
thousand
six
hundred
forty
two
dollars.
I've
got
a
porch
providing
overdose
reversal
to
give
columbus
hope,
it's
a
grant,
two
million
up
to
two
million
dollars
or,
as
otherwise
rewarded.
There
is
no
match
for
that
required
by
us.
We've
got
much
green,
it's
additional
funds
and
it's
a
20
percent
match
estimated
103
400
to
complete
the
match
green
project.
B
We
want
to,
we
probably
ought
to
thank
dana
while
she's
here
for
her
work
on
that
porch
project.
That's
been
a
significant
tool
for
our
officers
and
first
responders
to
use
to
try
to
keep
people
from
overdosing
when
they
come
into
contact
with
fentanyl.
Thank
you.
B
Motion
to
prove
the
purchases
item,
a
through
e
second
from
council
tucker.
Anybody
want
one
pulled
to
discuss
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
purchases.
Please
say:
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
D
They're
approved
so
I've
got
traffic
safety
equipment.
It's
eight
to
six
thousand
forty
four
dollars.
We've
got
fiber
contractor
services,
it's
a
rebid.
D
We've
got
payment
for
dialysis
treatment
for
the
jail
for
general
inmates,
and
I've
got
ivana
avenue,
harmony,
email
and
core
collaboration
advancement
software
for
our
information
technology
department
is
seven,
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
sixty
dollars,
and
so
those
are
the
purchases
and
mayor
council.
I've
got
two
updates:
a
monthly
finance
update
and
then
deputy
manager
hodge
will
do
a
t-splash
update.
I
I
The
general
fund
is
down
when
you
compare
february
2022
to
2021
and
that's
just
because
we
still
haven't
fully
recovered
in
some
of
our
revenue
sources,
particularly
the
court
fines
and
forfeitures,
also
in
our
occupation,
tax
revenue-
we're
not
where
we
not
quite
where
we
were
last
year
and
that
so
the
other
local
options
sales
tax
fund
is
down
about
four
and
a
half
percent
and
excluding
the
one-time
revenue
from
the
department
of
of
revenue,
the
one-time
audit
funds.
That
fund
would
actually
be
up
about
nine
percent.
I
So
it's
down
right
now.
That
is
comparison
to
last
year,
which
included
about
3.3
million
in
additional
monies
that
we
didn't
receive
this
year.
The
storm
water
fund
is
up
three
and
a
half
percent.
The
paving
fund
up
3.39
percent
medical
center
fund
up
4.23
percent.
All
of
these
funds
are
tax,
supported
and
general
property.
Taxes
are
up
about
four
percent
across
the
board.
I
The
integrated
waste
fund
is
down
20.45
and
a
large
part
of
that
decrease
is
attributable
to
the
capital
investment
that
was
made
from
the
general
fund
to
the
integrated
waste
fund.
Last
year
of
about
2.7
million
on
the
e-911
fund
is
up
14.61.
I
I
It
is
also
tax,
supported
the
debt
service
fund
down
1.55,
and
that's
just
due
to
the
retirement
of
some
of
our
existing
debt.
I
The
trans
metro
transportation
fund
is
up
51.45,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
mattress
revenue
is
grant
related
as
well,
and
so
that's
just
really
due
to
the
timing
of
the
reimbursements
that
we
receive
on
some
of
those
grants.
I
Bull
creek
golf
course
fund
is
down
16.92
percent,
but
that
is
largely
due
to
the
general
fund
investment.
I'm
sorry,
the
cares
act
investment
into
the
golf
courses
last
fiscal
year.
There
was
about
222
that
was
invested
in
the
golf
courses
for
those
golf
carts,
excluding
that
sort
of
one-time
influx
of
funding.
I
It
would
actually
be
up
about
two
and
a
half
percent
oxbow
creek
is
up
8.61
and
the
civic
center
is
up
524
percent
yeah.
Obviously
some
great
great
things
going
on
at
the
city
center.
There
is
an
increase
in
ticket
sales
this
year.
More
events
more
shows
are
happening
at
the
civic
center
this
year.
Now
that
they've
opened
up,
but
also
there
was
significant
grant
revenues
that
they
received
about
1.3
million
dollars
in
grant
revenue
and
fy
22.,
I'm
moving
down
the
snapshot
to
the
other
local
option:
sales
tax
fund,
public
safety.
I
I
Moving
to
the
left
side
of
the
snapshot
in
terms
of
the
general
fund
expenditures
you'll
see
here
that
the
goal
for
february
is
to
be
at
about
33,
so
it's
at
or
above
33
percent
of
the
ones
that
are
not
quite
at
that
percentage
are
highlighted
here
in
yellow
I'm
starting
with
the
city,
attorney's
litigation,
obviously
defending
millions
in
claims
for
the
employee
benefits
well
in
human,
well,
yeah,
employee
benefits
that
is
due
to
the
annual
death
benefit
and
major
disability
payment
that
we
have.
I
We
also
have
some
unemployment
benefits
that
are
paid
out
of
that
fund,
and
I
hope
that
that
does
not
go
over
this
particular
fiscal
year.
We
have
seen
a
significant
reduction
in
the
unemployment
claims
that
we
pay
out,
because
we
are
self-funded
with
our
unemployment
claims,
so
we
reimburse
the
state
for
what
they
pay
out
on
our
behalf,
but
so,
hopefully
that
doesn't
exceed
the
budget
in
that
particular
call
center.
I
I
1500
bonuses
that
we've
paid
out
for
the
fire
department,
so
they're
just
on
the
watch
list,
and
we
knew
that
you
know
they
didn't
have
as
much
salary
savings
as
some
of
the
other
public
safety
departments.
So
the
jury
manager
here,
that's
due
to
the
jury
fees
and
the
public
defender
is
due
to
the
monthly
contract
payment
that
we
make.
We
pay
that
in
advance,
so
it'll
always
show
as
being
over
budget
when
technically
it
is
not
that
in
itself,
is
the
finance
update
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
AE
So
good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
mr
city
manager,
I'll
try
to
make
this
brief,
but
I
did
want
to
go
through
the
t-splost
with
you
this
evening.
Again
we're
part
of
the
river
valley
region.
There
were
four
original
regions
that
adopted
the
t
splost
we
had
23
projects
for
our
region.
Eight
of
them
are
under
construction.
12
have
been
completed
in
the
river
valley
region.
AE
Those
projects,
specifically
in
muskogee
county
included
the
riverwalk
for
10
million,
which
has
been
completed
the
following
trail.
Three
and
a
half
million
has
been
completed.
The
u.s
27
custer
interchange
at
20
million
that
has
been
completed,
the
metra
was
22.4
million
and
that
one
is
in
progress.
AE
AE
AE
A
portion
of
the
reese
road
bridge
was
funded
through
t-splash
discretionary
matching
funds
for
the
dragonfly
trail
project,
sidewalks,
the
infantry
road
and
trail
the
match
for
the
z-230
funds
came
from
t-splash
discretionary,
the
match
for
mott's
green
at
200,
000
and
then
guard
rails.
So
a
total
of
19
million
out
of
the
22
has
been
allocated
to
a
specific
project.
AE
Now
that
t
splash
does
end
this
december,
and
so
there
is
a
on
the
ballot.
May
24th
will
be
the
continuation
of
the
t's
boss
for
the
citizens
to
consider
the
final
investment
list
that
forecast
for
10
years.
These
forecasts
are
done
by
gdot,
not
locally,
because
we
are
part
of
a
16
county
region
with
664
million.
AE
75
percent
of
that
is
allocated
to
projects
and
25
percent
is
allocated
to
discretionary
funds,
and
so
out
of
the
total
present
value
of
that
investment
list
is
just
under
400
million
g
dot
is
contributing
159
million
to
the
projects
within
our
region
for
a
total
project,
investment
of
559
million
that
the
voters
will
get
to
decide
on
may
24th
so
that
proposed
list
and
I'll
walk
through
these
quickly.
AE
AE
D
Because
these
projects,
people
there
there's
an
election
on
may
24th,
this
is
on
the
ballot
on
may
24th
and
and-
and
I
want
people
to
be
clear-
this
is
an
educational
process
of
what
is
on
the
ballot
and
they
get
to
this
ad,
whether
they
want
to
support
it
or
not.
D
AE
AE
Okay,
so
the
original
forecast
that
gdot
did
for
this
10
years
would
be
664
million.
75
percent
is
projects
at
598
million
and
25
percent
is
what's
considered
local
discretionary.
So
there's
a
formula
where
each
county
in
the
16
county
region
receives
a
monthly
discretionary
funds
which
I
went
through.
Those
projects
that
we've
done
with
the
22.475
million
that
we've
received
in
discretionary
funds
from
the
teeth
loss
that
we're
in
right
now,
there's
also
administration
of
the
program
at
19.7
and
then
they've
put
an
inflation
factor
in
there.
AE
One
of
the
problems
that
they
had
with
the
original
t-splos
is
that
wasn't
considered
in
the
calculation
and
so
there's
been
some
issues
with
the
collection
which
gdot's
had
to
make
up
the
difference
on
a
lot
of
the
t-sploss
projects,
since
they
did
the
original
calculation.
So
they
built
that
in
so
the
present
value
of
that
investment
list.
AE
So
the
present
value
of
the
498
million
allocated
as
the
75
less
administration
and
that
inflation
factor
brings
you
to
the
present
value
of
that
investment
list
of
399
million
they're,
also
going
to
contribute
an
additional
159
million
to
the
projects
within
our
region.
That
will
make
the
total
project
investment
at
559
million,
which
is
the
399
million
plus
the
159.
AE
AE
AE
So
these
are
all
band
one,
so
they
take
the
t-splash
list
and
they
make
band
one
band
two
and
band
three
band.
One
is
the
first
three
years
band
two
is
like
year,
four
through
six
and
then
band
three
will
be
year:
seven
through
ten.
So
these
are
all
the
projects
that
would
be
allocated
in
the
first
three
years
that
the
t
splost,
if
adopted
by
the
region,
so
the
first
one,
the
river
rock
repaving
at
12.5
million
and
that
is
to
resurface
parts
of
the
riverwalk.
AE
It
would
go
from
the
trade
center
all
the
way
down
to
oxbow
and
then
from
city
mills
to
the
north
island
dam
so
really
not
resurfacing.
That
portion
that's
in
uptown,
which
is
not
in
need
of
resurfacing
the
steam
mill
road
improvement.
You
know,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
steam
mill.
Road
we've
had
a
consultant,
that's
really
evaluated
that
corridor,
so
this
would
include
from
buena
vista
road
all
the
way
to
the
end,
widening
from
two
to
three
lanes
with
sidewalks
multi-use
trails
streetscapes
and
there
would
be
a
pedestrian
bridge
across
185.
AE
AE
This
again
is
from
two
lanes
to
three
lanes
that
will
go
from
whittlesea
to
williams,
road,
with
intersection
improvements
and
or
roundabouts
with
sidewalks
and
a
multi-use
trail.
That's
on
whitesville
road,
buena,
vista
road
corridor
improvements-
and
this
is
widening
from
two
and
four
lanes
to
three
three
lanes
from
winton
road
to
illjust,
road
with
sidewalks
and
a
multi-use
trail
south
lincoln
road
streetscapes,
10.1
million-
and
this
would
be
from
victory,
drive
south
to
the
roundabout,
including
sidewalks
and
multi-use
trail
for
the
south,
lumpkin
road
project,
university,
avenue,
road
diet
and
streetscapes.
AE
This
will
be
from
manchester
expressway
to
macon
road
on
university
avenue,
and
this
is
a
road
diet.
We
would
reduce
from
four
lanes
to
two
lanes
with
more
pedestrian
and
bicycle
facilities
along
university
avenue,
13th
avenue
17th
street
in
linwood.
This
would
be
either
a
roundabout
or
intersection
improvements
at
that
intersection:
liberty,
theater,
block
enhancements.
AE
AE
This
would
be
for
manchester
expressway
south
to
19th
street,
include
trails,
sidewalks
and
landscaping
along
the
second
avenue
corridor,
which
is
a
project
that
we
get
a
lot
of
requests
for
j.r
allen
at
schomburg
and
blackmon.
This
is
11.3.
This
is
one
of
the
projects
in
muskogee
county.
That
gdot
would
also
contribute
to
this
project.
For
a
total
of
11.3-
and
this
would
be
looking
at
eastbound
and
westbound
ramps-
intersection
improvements
at
those
two
intersections
for
j.r
allen
at
schaumburg
in
blackman.
AE
Forest
road
widening
this
would
be
from
macon
road
to
woodrow
farm
road
from
two
to
three
lanes
with
a
roundabout
at
trinity
and
forest
also
includes
sidewalks
and
a
multi-use
trail
morris
road
improvements
at
12
million.
This
would
be
from
buena
vista
road
to
forest
road,
widening
from
two
to
three
lanes
again
with
sidewalks
multi-use
trail
and
landscaping.
AE
Casita
road
excuse
me
casita
road
widening.
This
would
be
from
two
to
three
lanes
with
roundabouts
from
10th
avenue
to
north
lumpkin
road,
with
roundabouts
at
north
lumpkin,
at
23rd
and
brown
at
andrews
road.
Also,
again,
the
sidewalks
and
multi-use
trail
at
this
project
williams,
road
widening
at
18.7.
AE
This
would
be
from
veterans
parkway
to
185
widening
from
two
to
three
lanes
with
pedestrian
and
bicycle
amenities
around
about
at
williams
and
185,
and
at
fortson
road
with
pedestrian
and
bicycle
amenities,
double
churches,
road
improvements
and
we're
into
band
3.
At
this
point,
this
would
be
from
veterans
parkway
to
river
road
again
with
multi-use
trails,
sidewalks
intersection
improvements
or
a
roundabout
at
double
churches
and
whitesville
road
county
line
at
mahaffey.
AE
This
is
a
37.45
million
dollar
project.
Again,
this
is
another
one
that
gdot
would
make
a
contribution
towards
a
project
in
muskogee
county.
This
one
also
crosses
into
harris
county,
and
that
is
the
intersection
interchange
to
widen
that
bridge
at
mahaffey
and
county
line
road
and
then
also
on
my
happy
two
lanes
to
three
lanes
and
then
the
last
one
for
the
road
projects
or
transportation
is
the
bull
creek
dragonfly
trail
connector
and
this
would
be
rigdon
park.
AE
AE
From
the
discretion
or
from
the
list
of
303
million
they're
estimating
that
our
discretionary
funds
would
be
approximately
32.5
million
for
a
total
projects
in
muskogee
county
of
339
million
again
gdot
would
make
a
contribution
of
just
over
38
million
towards
that
project
list
and
also
when
the
t
splice,
which
we
don't
really
talk
about.
But
our
contribution
to
our
lmed
grants
is
reduced
when
there's
a
tcp
lost
in
place.
So
there
is
some
additional
savings
from
that
as
well.
AE
AE
And
it's
about
a
they're
estimating.
It
would
be
about
a
nine
million
dollar
savings
to
muskogee
county
alone.
If
the
t-splost
is
in
place.
AE
So,
just
to
kind
of
summarize,
our
project
list
was
201
million
on
the
t-splost.
That's
in
place
today
with
those
projects
that
have
a
multi-county
project
which
includes
harris
county
as
57
million
our
discretionary
we're
estimating
our
total
will
be
around
27.4
million
we've
received
24.6
to
date,
the
2022
proposed
list
is
303
million,
with
gdot
contributing
about
38
million
to
that
project
list,
and
our
proposed
discretionary
of
36.5
million
would
equate
to
a
total
investment
in
muskogee
county.
AE
Which
leads
me
to
the
update
of
the
public
meeting,
so
we're
scheduled
three
public
meetings
to
be
from
5
30
to
6
30.
we'll
go
through
the
project
list,
we'll
answer
any
questions
that
any
of
the
citizens
have.
The
first
one
is
thursday,
the
april
14th.
It
will
be
here
in
this
location.
It
will
be
televised
on
ccgtv.
AE
S
An
observation
and
a
recommendation,
the
city
manager,
you
you
got
some
pretty
significant
road
projects
and
the
second
go-round
the
north
side
is
knows.
For
fact,
a
lot
of
these
projects
that
are
on
this
list
are
key
and
important
in
a
district
that's
growing
day
by
day.
I
think
we
had
a
long
conversation
on
that
earlier,
but
I
I
see
the
meeting
list
and
I
see
midland-
I
see
south
columbus.
I
see
the
heart
of
columbus,
but
I
don't
see
anything
on
the
north
in
the
town
and
you've
got
some
key
projects
on
there.
S
I
would
hope
that
the
people
in
the
district
I
represent
would
want
to
see
that
I
plan
to
get
that
information
out,
but
I
think
that
they
want
to
know
that.
I
think
it
would
be
key
if
you
want
to
gain
some
vital
support
in
seeing
this
initiative
passed,
because
they
need
to
know
about
some
of
these
road
projects
that
are
on
here
yeah,
but.
N
K
Mr
city
manager,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
say
over
and
over
and
over
again
that
when
this
is
on
the
ballot,
the
question
will
be
yes
or
no.
It
will
not
be.
I
like
this
one.
I
don't
like
this
one
and
the
16
county
region
in
order
for
the
t
splosh
to
pass
and
pam
make
sure.
I'm
saying
this
right
in
order
for
the
t
splash
to
pass
the
majority
of
the
voters
in
all
16
counties,
50
plus
one
have
to
vote
in.
U
K
And,
like
the
last
election
harris
county
voted,
no,
the
majority
of
the
people
in
harris
county
voted
no,
but
the
majority
of
the
people
in
the
16
county
area
voted
yes,
so
harris
county
got
what
they
was
on
their
list.
Okay,
but
the
thing
is
it's
not
a.
I
like
this
one.
I
don't
like
this
one.
It's
a
the
entire
group
is
voted
up
or
down.
K
D
D
Yes,
ma'am
miss
mir.
That
concludes
my
agenda.
B
J
B
I
do
have
a
gentleman
that
I'll
get
you
his
bio
later,
but
it's
armando
fernandez
for
the
community
development
advisory
council
motion
to
confirm
from
mayor
pro
tem.
Second
from
who's
that
counselor
councillor
huff
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
He
is
confirmed.
J
B
J
B
B
All
right
just
motion
and
a
second
to
confirm,
miss
stole.
B
There's
confirmation
from
the
mayor
pro
tim
second
from
council
garrett,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed.
J
B
All
right
there's
a
motion
to
approve
confirm
ms
browder
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
She's
confirmed
motion
second,
to
confirm
mrs
boren.
All
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
she's
confirmed.
J
J
J
Next,
we
have
council
appointments,
any
nominations
would
be
listed
for
the
next
meeting
for
the
animal
control
advisory
board,
the
seat
of
lindsay
ellis
councillor.
Garrett
is
nominating
patricia
montgomery
for
this
seat
and
we
will
bring
this
back
for
confirmation
for
the
next
meeting
for
the
historic
and
architectural
review
board.
The
seat
of
kathy
williams
is
open
for
nominations.
K
D
B
D
AF
K
Okay
and
what
about
the
metal.
B
All
right
we
needed
to
go
into
executive
session
on
litigation
and
personnel
all
in
favor.
There's
a
motion.
Second
to
go
in
all
in
favor,
say:
aye,
any
post
all
right
we're
in
executive
session.
B
All
right.
We
are
back
in
regular
session.
We
were
in
executive
session,
discussing
personnel
and
litigation.
No
votes
were
taken.
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
motion
and
second
to
adjourn
before
we
go
happy
birthday
to
councillor
crabb
tomorrow
and
happy
birthday
to
councilor
davis
next
week
on
the
28th,
all
in
favor
of
adjournment,
say
aye
any
opposed.