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A
All
right,
we
will
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Welcome
to
the
I
guess
really,
the
last,
hopefully
the
last
budget
meeting
for
the
FY
18
budget,
and
we
because
of
a
change
in
the
in
the
procedures
that
we
adopted
about
three
years
ago.
We
cannot
pass
anything
on
the
add
delete
list
on
a
simple
majority
has
to
be
a
true
majority
and
it
has
to
so.
They
have
to
get
at
least
six
votes,
but
we
have
had
a
lot
of
questions.
A
There
have
been
a
number
of
Council
members,
including
myself
that
have
been
getting
questions
about
the
payroll
conversion
process
and
it's
even
caused
me
to
I
thought.
I
understood
it
and
the
more
questions
has
the
more
I
thought.
Maybe
we
ought
to
run
for
this
one
more
time.
So
I
think
this
is
a
perfect
time
to
get
Angelica
to
run
through
the
payroll
conversion,
so
that
council
is
completely
aware
of
what
that
process
looks
like,
and
maybe
the
folks
watching
and
some
of
the
employees
will
have
a
clearer
understanding
as
well
and
jelly.
Yes,.
B
Thank
you
all
right.
So,
like
the
budget
chair
mentioned
previously,
the
city
is
upgrading
its
current
payroll
and
Human
Resources
system.
We
recently
within
the
last
year,
so
upgraded
two
of
our
other
systems,
one
of
those
being
our
budgeting
system
and
the
other
one
being
our
financial
system.
And
so
currently
we
on
the
prepare
the
process
of
upgrading
our
payroll
and
Human
Resources
system
to
the
same
cloud-based
solution.
B
Once
we
upgrade
to
this
new
cloud-based
solution,
our
payroll
will
no
longer
be
processed
in-house.
That
will
be
done
off-site
by
the
people
that
the
vendor
that
are
hosting
us
with
this
particular
software
I'm.
Currently,
we
process,
if
I'm,
four
three
well
for
payrolls
like
really
three
of
them
are
recurring.
There
is
a
weekly
payroll
cycle,
the
body
to
payroll
cycle
and
the
month
payroll
cycles
and
then
intermittent
intermittently.
We
have
we
process
payroll
for
things
such
as
J
CPA
or
in
at
the
end
of
November.
B
When
we
process
those
six
bonuses
out
to
employees,
that's
an
intermittent
payroll
or
special
payroll,
as
we
like
to
see
so.
The
goal
with
this
conversion
goal
number
one
is
to
eliminate
the
weekly
payroll
cycle.
This
would
just
really
allow
the
city
to
standardize
our
paid
practices
across
all
departments.
It
would
allow
us
to
be
more
efficient
and
more
effective
in
our
time
reporting
and
there's
a
reduction
in
manual
adjustments,
as
well
as
an
anticipated
increase
in
payroll
accuracy.
B
So
the
second
goal
for
this
payroll
conversion,
in
addition
to
eliminating
the
weekly
payroll
cycles,
is
to
create
a
one-week
lag
for
bi-weekly
employees.
Now
this
transition
will
not
result
in
a
reduction
of
salaries.
Employees
will
still
be
compensated
all
the
time
that
they
work
so
by
weekly.
Employees
will
not
be
losing
the
paycheck
it's
simply
a
one
week,
deferment
of
when
they
would
actually
receive
that
paycheck.
So
when
you
separate
from
the
city
you
receive
one
week,
pay
after
your
last
day,
work
because
of
the
leg.
B
So
we're
hoping
with
this
one
week,
leg
to
create
some
consistency
and
our
payroll
processing.
Currently,
the
weekly
employees
are
on
a
one-week
leg,
so
they
work
a
week
and
they
get
paid
the
next
week.
Currently.
Currently,
our
bi-weekly
employees
are
not
on
a
leg.
They
get
paid
current
to
date,
so
but
the
lag
time
would
allow
us
to.
B
Allow
time
for
computation
to
be
based
on
what's
known
and
accurate
information,
as
far
as
when
an
employee
is
actually
working
and
there's
no
built
in
a
sum
which
reduces
future
Corrections.
So
our
current
process
is
that
we
process
payroll
on
Tuesdays.
These
most
about
95%
of
our
employees
are
paid
via
direct
deposit,
and
those
payments
are
submitted
to
the
bank
on
Wednesday
paychecks
are
received
on
Fridays
for
the
work
week
that
begin
on
Monday,
so
we're
estimating
on
Tuesday
that
you're
going
to
be
here
until
5:00
p.m.
B
B
So
here's
the
chart
that
just
shows
the
the
weekly
payroll
date
I'm
currently
on
the
left
side
of
the
chart,
the
current
weekly
schedule-
employees
receive
a
paycheck
every
week,
so
the
weekly
employees
are
already
on
the
leg.
So
just
starting
at
the
top
there,
you
see
the
pay
period
that
begins
June,
17
and
ends
June
23rd
is
actually
paid
on
June
30th
and
that
process
continues
down
for
weekly
employees
now
for
weekly
employees,
they're
going
to
a
biweekly
schedule.
B
B
C
Angelica
can
I
ask
a
question
that
may
that
a
finer
point
on
it
just
because,
like
councillor
Henderson
I've,
had
dozens
of
questions
in
Memphis
I
think
in
its
most
simplistic
form
as
to
tell
everyone
that
normally
you
would
have
been
paid
on
August
4th
and
August
11th
correct
this
year.
However,
you're
going
to
be
paid
on
August
4th
and
August
18th.
However,
on
August
11th
we're
going
to
give
you
a
bonus,
you
would
not
otherwise
have
gotten.
That's.
C
I
think
that's,
you
know,
eight
I
know
you're
explaining
it
in
conversion
and
clouds
and
software,
but
really
that's
all
people
care
about
is
I
was
paid
on
the
fourth
and
the
eleventh
now
I'm
going
to
be
paid
on
the
fourth
and
the
18th.
But
in
order
to
carry
me
those
extra
seven
days,
the
city
is
going
to
give
me
a
bonus
on
the
inland.
That's.
C
We're
not
taking
a
paycheck
and
not
giving
it
to
them
until
they
leave
the
city,
see
that's
what
they
hear
when
you
say
once
you
leave
the
city,
you'll
get
a
paycheck
two
weeks
later.
Well,
that's
true,
but
that
will
be
for
work
that
you
have
done
the
two
weeks
before
you
left
the
city.
That's
right!
Okay!
Well,
they're
thinking
we're
taking
this
check,
keeping
it
for
35
years
and
we're
going
to
pay
them
when
they
leave
and
that's
not
true
back
they're
going
to
be
paid
on
the
fourth.
A
I
think,
though,
what
I'm
hearing
is,
is
it
safe
to
save
and
at
the
end
of
the
year
when
they
have
been
paid
for
the
full
year,
they
actually
will
end
up
with
20
hours
more
money
in
a
bonus
and
I.
Think
that
part
is
probably
fine
with
the
average
employee
I
think
that
the
challenge
is
when
we
go
from
the
paycheck
they
receive
on
the
17th,
which
will
be
one
week's
pay
right.
A
I
know
riether
is
probably
working
on
it,
but
is
the
communication
piece
so
that
people
understand
far
enough
in
advance
that
yes
you're
going
to
get
a
one
week
worth
of
paycheck
on
these
on
the
4th,
and
you
won't
get
a
two
week
worth
of
paycheck
until
the
18th.
But
we
will
give
you
a
bonus
on
the
11th
to
help
tide
you
over
that
week,
even
though
the
dollars
are
the
same
and
even
tilt
them
that
employees
favor.
That's
that's
still
for
a
lot
of
folks
on,
particularly
on
the
lower
end
of
the
pay
scale.
A
It's
still
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
for
them
to
meet
that
so
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
this
I'm.
Just
saying
that
I
understand
where
their
concerns
are
coming
from-
and
this
is
all
great-
we
get
why
it
benefits
the
city.
We
get,
that
it's
creating
greater
efficiencies
and
it's
really
being
done
in
a
much
more
proper
way
of
handling
the
finances.
But
it
is
in
fact
going
to
create
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
for
for
them
for
that
one
week
particularly
weekly
comes
for
us.
Yes,.
D
B
E
And
I
think
we
we
started
talking
about
this
some
weeks
ago
right
and
we
wanted
to
not
do
it
July
1st,
when
the
fiscal
year
starts.
We
wanted
to
allow
some
time
after
the
fiscal
year,
because
we
wanted
to
allow
enough
time
we're
going
to
provide
an
explanation
with
how
their
paychecks
are
going
to
come
to
every
single
employee
and-
and
it
was
our
hope
that
they
will
be
able
to
take
that
letter.
E
If,
if
they
need
to
and
as
you
said,
go
to
your
landlord
and
say
you
know,
my
rent
yeah
we
need
I
will
need
to
pay
it
on
this
date
and
here's
a
letter
where
they're
changing
our
pay
schedule
and
I
want
you
to
know,
and
if
they
did
that
July
1st
and
it's
going
to
happen
in
August
I
think
the
landlord
perhaps
with
know
in
advance
and
hopefully
would
be
considerate.
So.
D
E
Fun
place
to
go
and
what
has
already
been
drafted
once
we
know
where
we're
going.
It
is
going
to
be
given
or
email
to
every
single
employee
in
the
government
and
they'll
have
an
outline
of
you
know
what
we're
doing
and
how
their
this.
That
schedule
is
on
that
memo
that
is
going
to
every
single
employee.
Just
like
you
see
it
and
it
explains
it
and
and
that's
what
they
will
be
able
to
share
with
whomever
to
show
that
I'm
not
just
telling
you
this
here.
E
D
E
D
E
E
D
True
and
the
utilities
and
everybody
you
know,
I
just
think
we
need
to
let
everybody
know
that
this
city's
making
this
conversion
and
put
the
utilities
and
the
relatives
and
everybody
so
that
they
don't
think
this
is
you
know
every
now
and
then
somebody
comes
in
and
they
say
well,
you
know
I've
heard
all
your
stories
so
what's
new
today,
yes,.
E
D
B
So
the
next
chart
just
sort
of
provides
the
timeline
for
the
biweekly
payroll
dates
currently
to
the
left
side
of
the
of
the
table.
There.
You
see
the
current
bi-weekly
schedule
and
to
note
on
this
schedule.
Normally
employees
would
have
been
paid
on
August,
normally,
bi-weekly
employees
would
have
been
paid
on
August,
11th
and
August
the
25th,
but
because
of
the
conversion
they'll
be
paid
on
August
the
18th
and
then
September
1st
for
the
same
corresponding
pay
cycles,
and
so
they'll
also
receive
the
bonus
check
on
august
11
to
help
carry
them
through.
B
F
Your
last
entry
there,
since
the
objective,
is
to
change
the
cycle,
so
your
pay
date
is
after
the
last
work
date,
which
makes
sense.
Was
there
any
thought
to
moving
the
pay
date
up
to
right
after
the
end
of
the
pay
week
as
early
as
possible
things
like
you're
going
out
for
another
week?
In
other
words,
if
you
paid
a
$10
a
day
since
your
convergent,
converting
everything
make
the
pay
date,
Monday
or
Tuesday?
F
B
Within
our
current
payroll
system,
we
can't
duplicate
a
pay
period,
so
that
really
can't
be
any
overlapping.
Our
paid
cycle
actually
starts
on
Saturday
so
from
Saturday
to
Friday
as
our
pay
cycle
days,
and
we
get
paid
currently
on
that
Friday
at
the
end
of
the
pay
cycle,
so
to
push
it
out,
I
guess
I'm
not
really
well.
F
Honestly,
I
don't
think
that
if
you're
going
to
make
a
conversion
to
pay
date
would
matter
you
make
your
page
just
just
talking.
In
other
words,
you
could
make
the
pay
date
as
soon
after
the
pay
cycle
ends
as
possible,
that
if
you
that's
right,
other
than
you're
gonna
have
a
weekend
in
there
and
you're
going
to
have
to
do
your
group.
B
B
So
the
bonus
pay
that
will
be
paid
out
on
august
11,
it's
a
one-time
bonus
that
will
not
have
to
be
repaid
for
your
bi-weekly
employees.
It
equates
to
being
one-fourth
of
your
bi-weekly
salary
or,
if
you're,
an
hourly
paid
employee,
it
equates
to
being
20
hours.
This
is
for
all
full-time
employees,
excluding
elected
officials,
you,
because
it's
not
a
regular
paycheck.
G
G
G
B
Involves
is,
is
that
correct?
Well,
even
though
the
Public
Safety
departments
they
are
on
different
pace
cycles,
then
be
typical,
bi-weekly
employees,
they
are
paid
every
two
weeks,
just
like
we
are,
and
so
the
bonus
for
them
equates
to
being
one-fourth
of
their
bi-weekly
salary.
So
they
get
paid
every
two
weeks,
just
like
any
other
bi-weekly
employee,
even
though
they
may
for
the
fire
department.
It
works
out
to
be
in
a
fifty
three
hour
week,
even
though
it
works
out
to
be
a
fifty
three
hours.
So.
G
E
E
E
E
E
B
An
actress
under
her
because
we
are
pushing
the
pay
date
back
one
week
in
calendar
year.
2017
we
will
not
have
26
pay
periods
will
actually
have
25.
It
is
typically.
It
is
typical
for
us
to
have
26
pay
periods
in
a
year,
but
sometimes
that
changes-
and
this
particular
instance
is
changing
because
we're
pushing
it
back
that
one
week,
but
employees
will
still
be
paid
for
the
time,
but
they've
worked
and
just
be
paid
on
that
January
5th
paycheck
date.
I
E
E
D
B
So
I
provided
here's
some
examples
for
different
grades
on
the
pay
scale,
starting
with
the
grade
10.
The
bonus
amount
equates
to
being
the
270
180
for
the
deduction
of
the
required
taxes,
which
a
federal
state
and
FICA
the
pension
deduction
is
based
on
the
4
percent
contribution
rate.
So
I
know
you
remember
due
to
pension
reform,
we
have
two
contribution
rates
for
our
existing
employees
that
were
on
payroll
as
of
July
1
2012,
that
contribution
rate
is
4%,
but
for
new
employees
that
contribution
rate
is
8%.
B
So
what
equates
to
being
as
far
as
the
grade
10
is
the
166
dollars
and
seventy
seven
cents
for
the
grade
17-
and
this
is
just
the
step-
a
I
mean
if
you're
further
out
on
the
scale
and
obviously
it's
going
to
impact
you
differently,
but
for
the
great
17a
the
bonus
equates
to
gross
donors,
equate
to
being
384,
10
subtracting
out
the
applicable
taxes.
The
net
bonus
amount
would
be
3565
and
then
on
the
upper
end
of
the
pay
scale
for
great
24,
a
which
is
more
so.
J
G
That
I
have
gotten
from
several
folks
in
councillor
Baker,
as
our
resident
CPA
may
wanna
help
answer
this
one
was
about
the
employees,
w-2
form
the
w2
as
I
understand
it
only
reports
what
you
are
actually
paid,
not
what
your
salary
amount
is,
so
the
w2
that
they
get
will
be
what
they
are
actually
receiving
salad
during
2017,
not
necessarily
what
their
annual
salary
is.
Is
that.
A
G
G
F
A
Thanks,
sir,
any
other
questions
about
the
payroll
conversion,
so
I
guess
I!
Guess
if
you
condense
it
into
something
that
the
employees
and
I
can
understand,
there's
going
to
be
a
a
one-week
delay
from
when
you
get
all
the
money
you
would
have
normally
gotten
up
to
the
date
that
you
receive
it
then,
and
to
offset
that
you'll
be
given
a
bonus
equating
to
one-fourth
of
what
you're
by
monthly
or
biweekly
pay
rather
would
be.
A
A
A
You
need
to
make
plans
and
we
need
to
be
communicating
in
to
them,
so
they
know
to
talk
to
whomever
they
need
to.
So
they
can
meet
other
obligations
that
they
know
that
one
week
there's
going
to
be
a
seven-day
delay
before
they
get
there
full-time,
but
they're
going
to
have
a
bonus
to
help
offset
any
in
expenditures.
For
that
one
week
and.
A
J
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
If
there
are
no
other
questions
about
the
payroll
conversion,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
into
the
add
delete
list,
and
we
have
we've
added
enough
folks
that
that
I
think
we've
got
a
much
better
shot
at
get.
Some
of
these
things
addressed
officially
just
a
reminder.
Again,
it
will
take
six
positive
votes
to
add
anything
that
has
currently
been
placed
on
the
list
and
we'll
go
through
them
one
at
a
time.
B
I've
also
provided
a
couple
of
items
that
were
requested
of
Council
to
accompany
the
list,
such
as
the
detailed
operating
expenditures
from
the
Department
of
Engineering,
as
well
as
a
detailed
capital,
outlay
request
from
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department.
The
word
are
three
referrals
that
were
requested
for
Council,
one
of
those
two
of
those
actually
being
for
the
marshal's
office.
Those
are
attached
as
a
part
of
attachment,
a
and
B
and.
B
I'm,
sorry,
three
of
those
for
them
included
the
marshal's
office
and
they're
all
attached
to
the
responses
and
request
from
Council
from
the
last
budget
meeting
and
what
I'd
like
to
get
clarification
on.
As
far
as
the
add
delete
list.
I,
do
it
add
a
few
items
via
email
that
I've
received
from
a
couple
of
counselors
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
mention
of
those
items
and
request
that
these
individuals
officially
add
these
items
to
the
list
during
the
budget
review
sessions?
B
L
A
B
So
I'm
the
first
island,
is
an
email
diversity
from
councillor.
Davis
I
didn't
seek
clarification
from
the
firing
EMS
Department
concerning
the
paramedic
certification
for
the
administrative
staff
and
that
amounted
to
ten
people.
The
amount
that's
listed
on
the
list
is
included
benefits,
that's
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars.
B
The
next
item
that
I've
received
was
from
Mayor
Pro
Tem
trip
team
as
it
related
to
the
reclassification
for
discussion
for
the
internal
officers
that
amount
listed
on
the
list
is
twelve
thousand
one
hundred
and
ninety
nine
dollars
buried
items
on
the
general
fund
on
the
in
the
over
local
option.
Fairfax
sign
on
the
public
safety
side.
B
Other
see
I'm
the
emails
from
councillor
Davis
concerning
the
marshal's
office
to
delete
their
license
plate
reader,
as
well
as
an
email
from
Council
Davis
settings
added
to
pursuit
difficult
with
the
build-out
package
for
the
police
department
and
if
I
could
just
get
motions
to
officially
add
these
items
to
the
list
for
discussion.
You.
B
All
right
taken
care
of
some
housekeeping
for
a
assistant
city
attorney,
okay,
all
right.
So
the
first
item
on
the
list
is
for
the
marshal's
office,
we'll
we're
adding
one
brevity
Marshall
great
PS
14
in
the
amount
of
forty
nine
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
dollars.
We
have
a
general
reserve
impact
of
point
one
two
days.
Currently
there
is
no
offsetting
on
deletion.
For
this
item
can.
M
Just
want
to
reiterate
my
fellow
counselors
the
reason
I
had
this
have
met
with
the
marshal's
office.
This
isn't
some
sort
of
luxury
item.
It's
not
a
want,
it's
for
them
as
a
need
because
they
are
down
to
that
level
where
they
can't
take.
They
can't
put
some
on
vacation
without
basically
again
other
people
to
cover
it.
So
you
know
it
can
end
up
costing
us
more
in
overtime
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
this
is
something
that's
dire.
It's
a
dire
need
for
them.
It
puts
another
officer
on
the
street.
M
F
That's
my
quick
question
would
be
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
critical
needs
on
this
list
is.
Is
there
any
information
regarding
a
funding
source
I
mean
the
fund
balances.
It
was
not
a
funding
source.
Most
of
these
things
on
here,
especially
payroll
related
items,
is
now
the
funding
balance
doesn't
have
a
revenue
stream.
You
can't
go
into
the
fund
balance
and
cut
the
cost
somewhere
else.
It's
a
fixed
part
of
the
budget
that
it's
not
even
sitting
in
a
savings.
F
It
flows
into
our
general
fund
to
help
us
pay
bills,
and
if
it's
a
moving
target
when
you,
when
you
hit
a
continuing
expense
against
that
money,
it
doesn't
work
that
it's
not
set
up
to
be.
You
know,
especially
payroll
other
fund
balance.
So
that's
my
concern
with
all
these
issues.
I'm
not
doubting.
Any
of
them
are
critical
in
the
heat's.
My
question
is
going
in
before
we
start
this
list.
If
somebody
has
an
idea
for
funding
source,
please
please
help
us
out.
F
You
know,
I,
don't
see
the
fund
balance
at
61
days
as
being
a
funding
source.
If
it
was
98
days,
we
could
at
least
have
the
discussion,
there's
no
difference
between
61
and
60000
leeway
there,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
issues.
You
know
that
we're
dealing
with
we've
got
some
repairs
down
at
the
the
tower
we're
looking
at
doing
that.
That
could
take
some
money
there,
so
I'm
just
I'm
just
asking
for
any
help
that
anybody
has
an
offending
source
outside
the
fund
balance.
I,
just
don't
think.
E
Expirement
yeah,
if
I
may
and
I,
don't
want
to
get
into
all
of
what
you
all
are
talking
about
in
terms
of
what's
on
the
a
delete
list.
But
I
do
want
to
just
remind
you
because
every
time
the
fund
balance
goes
below
60
days,
I
hear
councillor
Davis
asking
he
need
to
find
a
way
to
get
it
back
to
60
above
60
days,
but
one
and
councillor
Henderson
I,
know
that
you
will
know
this
and
many
of
the
councillors
who
have
been
here
for
many
years.
E
The
one
you
know
I've
talked
about
in
the
last
few
weeks:
salary
savings
and
how
we
didn't
touch
it
and
the
other
thing
and
that's
what
got
us
to
133
days
in
fund
balance
reserve,
but
the
other
policy
that
we
had.
We
had
when
council,
Jack,
Rogers
and
Mayor
Pro,
Tem,
Jack
Rogers
others
were
here,
is
that
he
would
never
ever
fund
and
operations
expense
out
of
fund
balance,
counsel,
Henderson
I
know.
You
will
remember
that
you
only
funded
one-time
expenses,
not
operational
out
of
fund
balance
and
I.
Just
enough.
A
To
show
that
William
long
long
stated
that
you
don't
you
can't
keep
paying
your
rent
or
your
mortgage
out
of
your
savings
account.
Eventually,
you
lose
your
house
same
thing
with
payroll,
any
kind
of
operating
expense,
one-time
capital
expenditures
we
have
utilized
in
fund
balance
in
the
past,
but
there
it
is
it's
a
very
slippery
slope,
because
once
you
head
down
that
way,
it
kind
of
just
folds
itself
into
the
budget,
and
it's
there
year
after
year
and
it's
coming
out
of
how
to
fund
bounce
council.
D
A
D
The
monies
were,
however,
they
came
up
with
the
percentages.
It's
like
30-something
percent
to
the
police
department,
37
percent,
to
the
Sheriff
Department
and
point
to
to
the
marshal
department,
which
I
would
think
in
the
old
law.
It
should
have
been
a
different
percentage.
They
I
don't
know
if
it's
5%
10%
15%.
However,
the
voters
voted.
I
need
clarification
on
what
the
intentions
were:
either
the
old
laws
for
each
department.
F
L
D
If
it
was
outlined,
police
marginal,
Sheriff,
Department,
fire
departments
is
Public
Safety
those
percentages.
If
those
percentages
were
in
place,
regardless
of
what
else
we
do,
that
was
the
intent
to
take
care
of
that
time
for
them
to
have
what
they
need,
because
what
what
I'm
looking
at
here
now
is
just
basically,
they
asked
for
two
cars
two
budgets
ago.
They
asked
the
two
cars
last
budget.
They
asked
the
two
cars
issue,
so
now
you
come
in
this
year
saying
we
need
eight.
D
F
Is
different,
but
maybe
there
is
an
option
there.
If
listening
to
the
city
manager,
he
talked
about
whether
it
be
salary
savings
or
some
departments
may
have
operational
savings
other
than
salary.
We
let
the
year
close
out
and
roll
that
in
the
fund
balance
and
come
back
after
the
auditors
check
it.
It
may
click
up
a
couple
of
days
and
may
give
some
capital
funding
availability.
I,
don't
know
that
I'm
saying
it's
an
option
of.
O
F
F
D
F
An
imperfect
system
and
I'm
not
advocating
for
or
against
the
marshal
I'm
just
talking
about
it.
We
are
where
we
are
and-
and
you
know,
when
you're
at
61
days
of
fund
balance.
In
my
opinion,
that's
not
a
fiscally
responsible
funding
source
for
virtually
anything.
That's
why
I'm
asking?
If
anybody
has
any
other
ideas,
I'm
open
to
listen
but
sure
one
option
is
to
find
another
Department
and
say
no.
The
marshal
is
more
critical
than
that
department.
Let's
move
it,
you
know,
that's
certainly
an
option
on
every
one
of
these
items
and.
F
D
F
F
K
D
B
M
A
A
A
We
try
to
give
it
to
them.
What
has
happened?
Is
we
created
that
culture,
because
their
public
safety
and
I
don't
apologize
for
because
I'm
always
going
to
give
them
anything
we
can?
But
when
we
get
to
a
point
where
there
just
is
not
the
resources,
they're
just
are
not
the
resources
to
gain
changes
and
we
do
end
up
in
a
situation
a
delete
list.
Frankly,
I
wish
it
was.
There
was
a
different
way
to
do
it,
but
I
don't
know
of
a
better
way.
A
I
mean
this
gives
each
member
of
council
who
may
have
a
particular
item
that
they
have
an
interest
in
to
be
able
to
voice
their
opinion
and
then
share
their
vote,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
value
the
others.
It
quite
simply
means
that
our
prioritization
might
be
a
little
different
based
on
our
experiences
within
the
government.
We
certainly
appreciate
what
everybody
knows:
I'm,
not
trying
to
hog
the
mic.
I
I
understand
what
councilor
Huff's
come
from.
It
is
frustrating
it's.
D
A
D
A
M
M
But
if
it
increases
the
service
to
landlords
and
makes
things
more
efficient
and
some
of
this
is
necessary
and
they
needed
a
deputy.
You
know
we
seriously
need
to
assess
it.
I
agree
with
councillor
Baker,
we've
gotta
find
a
revenue
source,
and
this
is
my
first
time
through
the
budget
process.
So
you
know
I'm
looking
at
y'all
for
guidance
on
that.
But
you
know
those
are
two
options.
You
know
technically.
A
And
necessarily
a
policy
decision
for
this
body,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
we
just
recently
reminded
our
Fire
EMS
that
funds
generated
within
a
division
or
not
just
for
that
division.
They
are
not
because
they
were
talking
about
ambulance
fees
and
I
know
they
wanted
to
address
some
compression
issues
and
their
pay
and
they
identified
the
money
necessary
through
the
ambulance
fees.
Well,
we
we
don't
typically
do
that.
A
We
don't
allow
a
revenue
generating
area
and
the
reason
for
that
is,
there's
an
awful
lot
of
department,
support
departments
within
this
government
that
don't
generate
revenue,
so
they
don't
have
the
same
luxury
of
been
able
to
say
well,
I'm
going
to
go
out
there
and
I'm
going
to
raise
a
little
bit
of
money.
Some
of
my
fees
and
I'm
going
to
take
that
money
and
pump
it
back
into
my
apartment.
A
It
is
a
policy
decision,
and
that
means
that
it
can
change
if
this
body
decides
that
it's
worthy
of
a
vote
changes
so
I
and
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
I,
don't
think
anybody
I
haven't
heard
anybody
run
this
table
that
doesn't
think
that
the
marshal
doesn't
need
that
deputy.
He
doesn't
need
the
cars.
Nobody
thinks
that
the
Public
Works
folks
don't
need
the
reclass.
Nobody
thinks
public
defenders
aren't
needed
to
be
added.
A
K
You
know
you've
taken
consideration,
everything
everybody
has
said
and
I
know
we
don't
take,
lend
miss
generated
by
a
department
to
run
that
department,
but
I
think
at
some
point
in
time.
We
need
to
take
in
consideration
that
that
department
is
generating
money
and
it's
going
to
the
John
fund.
So
at
work
we
say:
how
can
we
find
a
position
in
the
department?
K
That's
generating
funds,
there's
funding
the
general
funds
and
I
guess
what
the
only
place
she's
going
to
find
the
money
confirm
that
position
is
in
the
general
fund
and
it's
going
into
the
general
hunch,
because
that's
the
part
when
you're
scuffin
to
generate
money
that
goes
into
that
part
and
it
relates
to
the
percentages
or
breakdown
on
public
service
council.
That's
the
first
time
I
heard
about
those
percentages.
Don't
know
a
thing
about
those
all
I
know
is
70%
ret
to
public
safety.
G
And
I'd
like
for
you
to
look
at
the
at
the
add
delete
list
here.
The
first
page
of
this
add
delete
list
if
I'm
reading.
This
correctly
are
items
that
are
typically
funded
from
the
general
fund,
backpacks
and
then
the
second
and
third
pages
are
items
that
are
funded
from
the
Oh
loss
or
that
are
proposed
to
be
funded
from
the
olaf's
on.
G
So
the
third
pages,
the
stormwater
and
the
pay
okay
I'm
down
at
the
bottom
of
that
first
page,
it
says
s
ending
estimated
days
remaining
58
point
six
seven
does
that
include
the
reserve
from
the
loss?
Yes
ma'am,
so
that
if
we
did
all
of
this,
our
fund
balance
would
be
at
fifty
eight
point,
six,
seven
days
that
correct
okay,
so
the
additional
deputy
marshal
that
is,
that
is
being
discussed
at
this
point,
is
being
proposed
to
be
paid
from
the
general
fund,
not
from
the
Oh
loss.
That's.
G
And
if
I
remember
correctly
in
the
Oh
lost
in
the
original
presentation
from
the
Oh
loss
and
currently
the
marshal's
office
was
to
receive
five
additional
deputies
and
those
five
positions
are
currently
filled.
Is
that
correct
that
correct?
Okay?
So
if
we
need
this
deputy
marshal
from
the
general
fund
page
to
the
old
loss
page,
it
would
not
make
a
difference
in
the
days
left,
but
it
would
increase
the
number
of
employee
of
the
number
of
deputies
assigned
to
the
marshal's
office
from
the
Olas.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
P
You
mr.
budget
chair,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
well
I,
think
you
have
to
question
the
fact
that
if
we're
trying
to
create
positions
just
to
generate
revenue,
I,
don't
think
that's
wise
in
this
case,
I
would
look
at
this
and
and
I'm
looking
at
it,
both
from
some
of
the
discussion
that
has
been
talked
about
around
the
table
with
funding
but
I'm.
P
Also
looking
at
this
as
a
management
issue
and
sticking
to
your
core
mission
of
your,
your
departments,
now
I
totally
respect
and
I
appreciate
in
every
department,
head
or
chief,
or
whether
it's
an
elected
official
whomever
coming
in
and
standing
up
for
their
department
and
in
their
needs
and
we're
going
to
get
that.
We've
had
tons
of
requests,
tons
of
requests
all
on
the
way
they're.
All
they
all
can
be
justified,
but
that's
somewhat
the
problem
with
sometimes
and
what
we
do
with
the
and
delete
list
has
been
around
forever.
P
That's
part
of
the
budget
process,
but
you
know
outside
the
mayor's
budget.
That's
been
prepared
and
bet
it.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
us
and
then
we
have
to
relook
at
some
of
these
things
from
a
standpoint.
It
really
makes
it
difficult
and
I
only
thing
you
can
do
is
just
talk
to
folks
or
not
I.
Don't
have
any
indication
that
that
there
is
a
need
out
in
the
community
right
now
matter.
Of
fact,
everybody
I
talked
to
is
content
with
the
service.
P
You
look
at
the
Sheriff's
Department
of
doing
more,
more
and
more
work
on
this
side
of
serving
you
look
at
the
private
career.
As
you
look
at
those
things,
I've
I
think
somebody
said
along
the
way
that
there's
24
vehicles
that
we're
talking
about
one
is
there's
only
17
personnel
and
24
vehicles.
Within
this
within
this
office.
Look
we
just
lost
two
more
CPD
vehicles
that
we
just
read
about
in
the
paper
that
that's
going
to
have
to
be
replaced.
P
Somehow
so
I
think
you
know
everybody's
going
to
have
to
start
sticking
to
their
when
you
have
an
issue
from
the
revenue
side,
they're
going
to
start
sticking
to
the
core
mission.
So
you
know
my
question
is
I'll
continue
to
do
what
you've
done
in
the
past
and
at
the
same
point
in
this
discussion,
I
think
it's
very
very
relevant
that
we
look
at
the
history
here.
P
You
look
at
the
history
of
why
we've
made
some
changes
last
year
in
the
year
before
you
look
at
how
the
funding
was
used
is
very
obvious
of
why
the
changes
were
made.
So
the
question
of
standpoint,
do
you
really
need
the
extra
personnel
to
accomplish
your
mission?
I?
Think
that's
one
of
the
key
questions
at
this
point.
Everybody
needs
more
personnel,
everybody
I
mean
everybody
wants
more
services,
but
we're
having
to
do
more
with
less
basically
and
continue
to
stay
on
the
same
pace.
P
So
I
look
again,
I
appreciate
and
respect
all
the
requests,
but
I've
got
to
look
at
this
from
a
from
a
standpoint
of
capital
replacement,
I'm.
You
know
somebody
really
needs
and
it
becomes
a
safety
issue.
I
think
we've
had
a
tremendous
amount
of
discussion
on
the
safety
aspect
of
our
vehicles
across
the
board.
I,
don't
think
I
think
according
to
I,
asked
a
fleet
manager
actually
do
we
have
any
issue
as
far
as
a
safety
concern
within
your
vehicles.
He
said
no
they're,
all
good,
so
you
know
I
equipment
providing
equipment
for
our
people.
P
P
If
we're
going
to
go
out
and
create-
or
if
you
look
back
to
the
history
and
duplicate
the
services
throughout
the
city,
then
again
that
question
comes
up
about
the
need
of
of
extra
personnel,
so
this
year
you
know,
I,
think
you
keep
doing
what
you're
doing
I
think
you
keep
managing
the
department.
I've
heard
good
things
about
from
this:
the
the
subject
at
hand
and
the
marshal's
department
that
people
are
contempt
with
the
service.
It's
a
good
thing
and
I
guess
you.
P
A
K
In
reference
to
adding
on
personnel
to
generate
income,
that
was
not
what
the
marshal
said.
He
weren't
that
person
who
it
was
ensure
that
they
get
the
warrant
or
whether
they
deliver
out
in
a
timely
manner
and
I
have
heard
some
complaints
from
citizens
who
go
down
the
Municipal
Court
to
file
for
whatever
it
is
they
found
for
to
deliver
that
it
does
take
a
while,
the
marshal
didn't
say
he
wanted
a
person
to
generate
more
income.
K
That
was
something
I
said
that
could
be
done
and
we
said
well
we're
going
to
get
the
letter
home
and
Council
Garrett
said
no
writing
tickets.
They
get
letter
format
that
wasn't
the
marshal
see
it,
but
as
far
as
the
capital
fun
with
the
cars
I
to
it
question,
why
would
they
need
additional
cars
when
they
have
I?
Think
it's
seven
more
cars
than
they
have
people
in
the
department.
A
Council,
you.
D
D
D
So
it's
necessary
to
replace
some
of
that,
but
we
need
a
count
on
what
the
cars
are.
He
has
people
here
if
somebody
can
help
me
with
that.
To
explain
to
me
the
numbers,
because
I
know
that
the
additional
seven
cars
that
are
talked
about
are
not
just
sitting
there
counted
as
regular
fleet
like
that,
so
they
not
just
extra.
Q
Good
afternoon,
that's
a
noon
I'm,
looking
at
a
list
that
was
provided
by
the
fleet
manager
as
to
the
inventory
of
vehicles
assigned
to
the
marshal's
office,
given
here
24
cars,
but
on
his
list
that
he
provided.
There
are
actually
22
cars
on
this
list.
I,
don't
know
what
a
24
is
coming
from.
I
have
no
idea.
Okay,.
Q
We'll
have
17
sworn
deputies
using
of
the
22
vehicles
Council,
as
you
know,
in
FY
16,
defunded,
three
positions,
so
there
were
three
pursuit
vehicles
for
those
three
positions
that
we
still
have
on
hand,
and
then
we
have
two
special
purpose.
If
you
will
vehicles,
we
have
a
band
that
we
use
for
there
and
the
great
program
there
in
the
junior
marshals
program,
and
then
we
have
what
we
call
an
admin
car
and
then
track
it,
but
other
than
that
I,
don't
know
what
other
vehicles
other.
What's.
K
Q
E
A
D
D
D
They
took
the
better
cars
and
put
them
on
the
street
and
the
older
ones
that
are
at
100,000
miles
plus
seven
years
were
the
ones
in
question
that
they
were
trying
to
put
one
or
two
cars
back
on
the
road
to
try
to
keep
the
fleet
going
because,
like
I
say,
if
you
get
into
the
details
of
it
gets
to
be
redundant
that
fleet
manager
says.
This
is
the
way
we
operate
and
the
cars
are
safe.
But
at
some
point
we
should
be
able
to.
D
Q
A
Yes,
sir,
and
just
a
reminder
to
the
Budget
Committee,
we're
still
focusing
on
the
deputy
marshal
request
to
be
added
anymore
anymore.
Comments
to
that
particular
ad
item.
There's
been
a
motion
and
a
second
with
no
offset
funding
to
add
a
deputy
marshal
PS
14,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed
all
right
any
and
all
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
right
hand.
One.
R
B
P
Budget
I
think
I
heard
the
you
know
relevant
to
the
previous
conversation.
I
think
I
heard
the
city
manager
talk
about
a
potential
plan
in
working
to
accomplish.
Some
of
the
council's
concerns
concerns
we've
heard
from
the
citizens.
I
believe
that
is
correct
in
my
miss
stating
that
that
that
is
being
looked
at,
it's
going
to
be
looked
at
in
the
upcoming
months.
E
P
Concern
that
we
shared
on
this
I
know,
that's
why
we
put
it
on
the
list
for
discussion
to
try
to
take
care
of
some
of
the
priorities
and
parks
and
Rex,
but
I
have
your
confidence
insurance.
If
those
matters
will
be
continued
to
work,
he
worked
on
as
the
year
closes
out
into
the
next
year.
Absolutely
mr.
budget,
chair
I,
will
make
a
motion
to
remove
this
from
the
list
at
this
point
and
let
the
city
manager's
office
handle
that
lightly.
A
P
L
A
E
R
You
know
because
to
me
that
was
very
embarrassing
when
the
presentation
was
here
in
the
media,
you
know
took
off
with
it
and
it
seemed
to
look
like
we
were
putting
our
employees
in
an
unsafe
environment,
and
that's
my
reason
for
for
saying
that
that
I
know
you
say:
you'd
probably
be
less
than
$500,
but
I
hope
that
you'll
give
us
a
report
back
on
the
things
that
are
very
very
priority
to
ensure
the
safety
of
our
employees
and
that
the
mission
gets
completed.
Absolutely.
A
G
A
You
know
there
is
there,
isn't
we
read
the
mayor's
budget
included,
expected
revenues
consistent
with
what
episode
FY
17
show,
which
included
about
a
four
million
dollar
less
revenue
stream
than
we
anticipated
so
in
FY
18?
It
could
be
that
they
fixed
the
arm
in
the
next
couple
years.
They
fix
the
tag
ad
valorem
system
could
be
that
sales
tax
rebounds
could
be
that
we
collect
more
fees
and
recorder
court.
This
is
a
prioritization
list.
A
In
my
mind,
if
he's
officious
group
has
placed
these
on
an
adolescence
because
they're
serious
about
trying
to
provide
for
the
marshal
and
trying
to
provide
for
some
of
the
other
individuals,
so
I
would
hope
that
if
there
does,
if
we
do
end
up
at
mid-year
or
even
prior
to
that,
with
some
additional
funding
that
we
will
revisit
these
items
and
give
this
group
an
opportunity
to
reprioritize
and
determine
which
ones
we
want
to
expend
those
funds
on.
Yes,.
E
And
so
council
comes
back
to
your
point,
because
I
was
looking
at
the
list,
we'll
bring
back
an
entire
list
to
show
you
what
we
were
able
to
do,
because
some
of
the
things
on
here
obviously
I
say
to
zero-turn
baggers
for
9,500
a
ball
field,
paint
machine
6000,
but
we'll
bring
the
entire
list
of
whatever
we
do
back
and
well,
not
for
voc
necessarily
but
to
show
you
because
it's
not
over
$10,000.
Yes,
yes,
yes,
thank
you.
B
B
6040
$3
includes
benefits.
What
was
initially
placed
on
the
a
delete
list
was
the
reclassification
of
that
position
of
potential
reclassification
of
that
position,
based
on
our
current
promotional
pay
policy,
the
corner
of
requested
a
step
increase,
that's
in
that's
over
and
above
our
current
pay
policy,
and
so
that's
what's
reflected
on
the.
A
All
right
is
there
a
sort
of
motion
to
approve
the
deputy,
coroner
and
and
I
thought
what
we
were
talking
about,
that
mr.
city
manager.
You
had
indicated
with
that
amount
that
you
thought
administrative
leave
that
can
find
them
money
five
thousand
I
think
is
what
we're
talking
about
within
his
budget.
Well,.
A
E
A
A
B
Next
item
on
the
list
was
placed
on
on
the
based
on
the
May
16th
meeting
from
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Pugh
and
council.
Listen
for
Public
Works.
There
was
a
reclassification
for
a
correctional
officer,
Public
Safety
grades,
7-12
to
an
assistant
facilities,
division
manager,
I'm,
the
director
I
believe
from
Council
X,
for
this
particular
position
was
for
staff
to
come
back,
possibly
at
this
meeting
with
the
funding
source
and
at
this
particular
time
we
don't
have
one.
E
E
Part-Time
white
wages
or
there's
a
adjustment
and
salary
somewhere
else,
and
they
looked
and
they
look
hard
and
they
simply
could
not
come
up
with
it.
And
so
it's
not
something
that,
based
on
the
guideline
that
we've
used
budget
neutral
from
over
times
hours
or
wages,
we
can't
I
can't
recommend
it
at
this
time.
K
A
N
A
E
Mr.
chairman
know
that
a
city
manager
at
I
really
want
I
need
this,
and
but
it's
just
simply
and
I've
talked
to
the
director.
I
mean
it's
just
simply
something
that
without
being
budget
neutral,
knowing
our
situation
just
can't
recommend
so
I
just
they
know
that
because
I
support
them
and
would
support
this
as.
A
L
A
B
A
I
A
I
P
A
P
G
K
S
A
A
E
B
G
K
B
A
G
G
A
B
A
B
A
B
E
B
Go
slower
all
right
so
back
to
the
original
question,
so
exclude
everything
else
that
presently
on
the
list,
based
on
what's
been
approved,
what's
not
been
approved,
what's
been
withdrawn,
our
fund
balance
started
out
at
sixty
one
point.
Four
five
days:
it's
presently
down
to
61
point
three:
nine
days
sailing.
L
G
B
E
B
E
A
P
L
M
To
one
point:
four
or
five:
so
if
that
was
our
starting
point
and
then
theoretically,
we've
approved
everything
unless
which
we've
already
decided
we're
not
approving
certain
things
or
Indian
estimated
days
will
be
58
point
six.
Seven
well,
I
mean
we've
already
added
back
in
our
we've
already
deleted.
One
point:
three:
seven
off
this
list,
which
would
put
us
above
sixty
days,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
where
we're
rich.
B
B
M
A
L
B
G
A
F
A
Absolutely
absolutely
okay
and
that's
an
important
point.
We
we
can
actually
Izmir
pro
tempore
that
we
can
until
it
back
to
the
past.
We
can.
We
can
make
changes
so
that
if
we,
if
we
continue
to
try
to
work
on
this-
and
we
typically
do-
and
there
have
been
a
few
occasions
where
we
have
made
changes
right
up
to
the
last
minute-
to
the
to
the
second
okay,
what.
F
P
He's
right,
he
can
make
changes
all
the
way
around
and
it
goes
on
first
reading,
but
let
me
remind
you:
we've
always
kept
somewhat
of
a
cushion
in
the
in
the
fund
balance,
but
you
remember
the
year
that
right
when
we
were
about
to
prove
the
budget
that
we
got
hit
with
that
emergency
request,
I
think
it
was
a
dryer
if
I'm
not
mistaken.
That
was
a
huge
one.
P
F
A
B
N
A
A
There's
a
motion
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
counselor,
yes,
sir,
but.
A
Sir,
thank
you
yeah
and
in
just
a
statement
from
my
perspective
on
these
reclassifications
I'm,
absolutely
in
favor
of
all
of
them.
I
just
can't
pay
salaries,
kind
of
fun,
bounce
I
just
think
it's
a
fundamental
issue
for
me:
I
just
cannot
do
it.
I
can
promise
the
individuals
that
are
on
here
for
reclassify
to
address
this
because
we've
got
some
put.
A
All
of
our
faiths
need
to
be
paid
from
top
down
really
from
the
bottom
up,
but
there
are
some
particularly
at
department
head
levels
and,
in
my
opinion,
or
there's
a
bigger
spread
than
there
is
in
some
other
areas.
I
intend
to
continue.
Look
I
just,
cannot
pay
it
out
of
fun
balance.
So
that's
my
personal
coming
satvinder.
So.
A
I
B
A
B
A
E
B
R
A
B
G
$26,500
designated
for
salary
for
juvenile
court
judges
the
way
the
legislation
is
written,
it
merely
says
salaries
for
the
judges,
it
does
not
say
salary
increase,
so
I
have
talked
with
three
of
our
representatives
and
initially
all
three
of
them
said:
oh
no,
it
means
salary
increases.
It
does
not
mean
using
this
twenty
six
five
to
offset
what
Muscogee
County
currently
is
putting
into
these
salaries.
G
You've
got
to
give
these
three
judges
arrays
and
then
then
two
of
them
came
back
to
me
and
said
that
they
had
checked
with
colleagues
in
Atlanta
I'm,
assuming
either
at
the
ledge
counsel's
office,
are
the
Budget
Office
of
somewhere
that
they
that
were
then
told
that's
not
what
the
legislation
says.
The
legislation
does
not
say
salary
increases,
it
says
to
pay
salaries,
and
at
least
one
of
them
told
me
that
that
they've
been
told
that
several
other
counties
in
the
state
of
Georgia
are
doing
what
is
proposed
to
do
here.
G
G
The
minimum
salary
has
to
be
$60,000
according
to
what
we
were
given
last
week
by
the
juvenile
court
judge.
The
office
judge
Loudermilk
is
not
making
sixty
thousand
he's
making
fifty
six
nine
seventy
four.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
we
under
hb5
at
least
act
to
raise,
judge
Loudermilk
salary
to
the
sixty
thousand
judge
dodging
and
judge
kenan,
are
both
meeting
the
minimum
that
is
required
by
state
law
as
I
understand
it,
and
all
of
this
is
said
with
as
I
understand
it.
Okay,
so.
G
P
K
A
B
G
A
G
As
I
understand
it,
mayor,
pro-tem
and
I'm
going
to
use
just
some
rounded
figures:
okay,
the
the
state
sends
so
much
money
down
to
us
to
offset
our
costs
of
paying
the
juvenile
court
judges,
and
then
we
have
to
make
up
what
is
left
of
that
and
suppose.
For
the
sake
of
example,
we
have
to
make
up
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
what
we
have
done
it.
What
has
been
done
to
this
point
is
in
last
year
we
paid
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
this
next
year.
G
We're
going
to
use
this
twenty
six
five
to
help
pay,
that
hundred
thousand,
so
that
that
we
will
only
be
taken.
Seventy
four
five
out
of
our
budget
and
using
the
twenty
sixty
five
to
get
to
the
hundred
thousand.
Our
total
amount
is
not
going
to
go
up.
It's
just
that
we're
not
going
to
have
to
use
as
much
money
out
of
our
general
fund
next
year,
as
we
did
this
year,
does.
G
Correct
okay,
so
if
we,
if
we
did
not
do
that,
if
we
gave
that
twenty
six
five
as
sour
increases
to
the
three
judges
and
we
continued
to
fund
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
out
of
our
general
fund,
yes,
it
would
only
go
up
forty
four
cents,
but
we're
not
funding
that
entire
hundred
thousand
out
of
the
general
fund
anymore.
We're
only
funding.
Seventy
five
of
that.
C
Mr.
Bishop
chair,
can
the
assistant
city
attorney
speak
to
the
issue
about
the
minimum
pay
for
the
juvenile
court?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we'd
had
a
couple
of
interpretations
of
the
law
that
were
incorrect
and
then
the
assistant
city
attorney
sent
around
a
memo
that
clarifies
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
a
lawyer.
Nonetheless,.
C
I
Perfectly
as
Clifton
and
I
read
and
researched
it,
we
see
that
that
paragraph
that
was
amended
by
House
bill
five
as
providing
a
calculation
just
as
councillor
thomas
outlined
and
even
the
specific
salaries
for
judges
with
certain
numbers
of
days.
That
is
an
amount
that
helps
calculate
the
grant,
because
we
have
a
certain
number
of
Superior
Court
judges.
We
don't
even
use
that
subparagraph
of
the
grant
calculation
at
all,
because
we
get
more
money
using
the
first
two
sub
paragraphs.
So
at
one
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
is
what
Columbus
is
getting
this
year.
I
And
if
you
look
at
the
existing
bill,
which
the
paragraph
above
which
didn't
change,
the
salary
of
each
of
the
judges
is
set
by
the
Superior
Court
judge
with
the
consent
of
the
governing
authority.
So
absolutely
it's
totally
appropriate
for
you
to
determine
and
agree
to
a
certain
level
of
salary
for
any
of
the
juvenile
court.
Judges
and
I
think
that's
what
you're
proposing.
K
A
I
guess
one
other
question
I
would
ask.
There
is
also
some
there's
some
fees
and
talking
with
the
judge
and
that
that
in
the
juvenile
court
there's
some
fees
that
were
supposed
to
have
been
being
paid,
that
I
know
we're
collecting
and
I
know
have
those
been
calculated
as
part
of
the
FY
18
budget.
Yes,.
J
L
A
A
R
A
All
right
councillor,
yes,.
S
L
D
You
for
being
here,
how
are
you,
sir,
our
glee,
think
as
far
as
discussion
with
other
counties?
D
S
It
it's
a
little
too
early.
It's
a
little
too
early
to
tell
I.
Just
I
worked
on
the
bill
going
back
two
years
ago.
I
know
it
was
to
get
salaries
up
as
to
how
that
money
is
applied.
I
don't
have
any
any
I'm.
Just
your
humble
servant,
so
I
was
the
budget
stuff
I
leave
to
a
city
manager
and
the
finance
director,
and
you
are
the
folks
but
I
thought
I
came
in
here
with
a
with
a
just,
a
very
nominal
request
for
a
pass-through.
S
Basically
for
that
money
and
I
I
was
really
last
Tuesday.
I
didn't
really
know
what
to
say:
I
was
a
little
surprised,
but
in
in
the
other
counties
I
can
I
can
just
tell
you
that
we
I
didn't
know
also
that
the
thirty
seven
thousand
three
hundred
seventy
one
dollars
and
81
cents
that
we
collect
from
the
five
of
the
counties
was
also
included
in
the
budget,
because
that's
a
new
money
that
we
have
collected
in
the
past
so
without
getting
way
into
the
weeds.
S
S
S
Six
yeah
yeah,
so
the
the
Pat.
If
you
applied
the
the
26
to
50,
which
is
House
bill
five,
then
you
would
based
on
past
revenue,
since
this
is
new
money
from
the
five
counties,
you
would
have
37,000
370
181
in
new
money,
and
that
doesn't
include
in
your
rare-
is
that
I
wasn't
going
to
get
into
at
all.
But.
P
P
You
got
a
really
all
the
judges.
Have
a
tough
job
in
your
court
is
protecting
and
providing
guidance.
Who
are
you
today,
and
it
just
continues
to
to
be
something
that
we
all
need
to
be
aware
of
and
concerned
about,
but
I
think
what
you
just
said
that
it's
safe
to
say
that
those
expert
witnesses,
probably
in
the
some
of
those
meetings
that
understand
it
versus
you,
know,
opinions
and
as
well.
P
What
I
was
referring
to
later
the
budget
chair
spoke
about
it
just
a
minute
ago,
was
that
you
know
we're
calculating
annually.
So,
yes,
some
of
the
calculations
are
annual,
but
some
of
the
things
that
are
now
coming
back
in
and
being
approved,
like
I,
said
I
I
feel
confident
that
we
can
handle
the
requests.
Thank.
S
You
and
well
I,
just
want
to
say,
will
continue
to
do
everything
humanly
possible
to
help
these
children
and
these
families
we're
right
about
I,
get
off
the
soapbox,
but
I
get
past
it
we're
right
about
1.2
million
dollars
in
grants
to
augment
these
services,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
that.
We're
trying
to
get
a
family
drug
court
on
in
that
same
spirit,
so
we'll
continue
to
do
that
regardless,
but
we
appreciate
everything
y'all
have
done
and
regardless
of
the
outcome.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
Tell
you
that
one
of
our
legislators
said
that
he
spoke
with
the
author
of
hv5
and
the
authors
said
his
intention
when
he
wrote
it
was
salary
increases
that
the
judges
do
get
the
increase,
and
he
said
as
it
came
out.
It
didn't
reflect
that
if
you
want
to
read
it
in
that
way,
so
the
the
author
of
the
bill
agrees
with
putting
this
money
into
the
salary
and
not
into
the
offset
just
wanted
to
give
you
that
little
piece
of
information
thank.
F
Thank
you,
George
Guiana
work.
We
do
and
I
apologize
to
I
thought
it
was
a
direct
pass
through
and
for
the
conversations
with
the
budget
chair
with
some
others.
I
realized
it
had
already
been
incorporated
into
the
mayor's
budget
as
a
reduction,
and
also
those
additional
fees
had
already
been
incorporated
to
the
budget.
So
I'm
not
sure
where
that
leads
us
and.
S
L
M
Just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
is
aware,
particularly
the
public,
that,
in
addition
to
this
bill,
we
basically
were
servicing
a
multi
County
circuit.
Our
judges
have
in
our
judges,
we
get
us.
Typically,
they
have
their
base
salary
and
then
they
get
their
supplement
based
on
population
size
in
the
Superior,
Court
level
and
other
other
judgeships.
But
with
this
judgeship,
their
workload
is
increased
tremendously
and
we
have
not
gotten
paid
and
now
we're
not
gotten
paid.
M
The
judges
are
the
ones
who
discovered
that
and
which
is
very
important
and
we're
now
going
to
be
getting
compensated.
So
you
know
I
think
that's
very
important
to
note
that
basically
they're
getting
paid
like
they
were
just
servicing,
Muscogee
County.
That's
no
one!
We're
going
to
be
the
case,
so
this
is
basically
again
they're
supplements
that
were
already
do
from
these
other
counties.
A
Well,
you
know,
there's
no
other
lights
on
and
I'm,
just
going
to
say
I
this
one
troubles
me
and
I.
Certainly
don't
blame
the
administration,
because
they're
looking
to
cobble
together
a
balanced
budget
any
way
they
can,
but
when
I
first
heard
of
this
is
councillor.
Baker
alluded
to
I
assumed
this
was
a
pass
Perot
that
this
was
the
dreaded
no-brainer
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
handle
it.
And
then,
when
I
heard
it
was
obligated.
A
I
thought
well:
okay,
because
we'll
check
on
some
of
the
funds
that
have
not
been
collected
I
know,
we've
also
got
maybe
some
rent
payments
coming
from
YDC
I,
don't
know
if
those
have
been
factored
in.
I've
asked
the
deputy
city
manager
to
check
with
other
larger
counties,
to
determine
how
they
are,
how
they're
treating
this
money
that
comes
in
and
how
it's,
how
it's
being
utilized.
A
You
know
my
biggest
issue
and
the
judge
and
I
thought
about
is
I.
I
thought
this
was
a
pastor
and
but
since
its
obligated,
it's
very
very
difficult
for
me
to
both
approve,
just
because
it
comes
out
of
fund
balance.
I
feel
like
we're
going
to
be
able
to
plug
the
hole
in
future
years
by
utilizing
dedicating
either
some
of
these
contributions
from
the
other
counties
or
the
the
proceeds
from
hb5,
so
I
think
going
forward.
A
We're
good
in
as
councillor
Baker
said,
I
think
if,
in
the
event
unlikely
event,
this
doesn't
pass
now,
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
will
pursue.
You'll
see
us
pursue
pretty
much
non-stop
until
we
can
try
to
identify
something
for
this
year
to
hold
us
until
we
get
to
FY
19
when
we
can
use
some
of
that
money,
as
frankly
I
thought
it
was
supposed
to
be
used.
A
So
there
is
a
motion
on
the
floor
substitute
motion
and
it
is,
it
is
to
fund
its
to
fund
the
entire
25
959
I
believe
for
the
juvenile
court
judges.
So
any
comments,
any
additional
comments
to
the
motion.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
those
in
favor
raise
your
right
hand,
I'll
post
your
passes
to
with
your
passes.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
thanks,
sir.
G
S
L
B
Sir,
so
much
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
west
coast
on
the
only
agenda
under
a
delete
list.
Only
at
the
May
16th
meeting
by
councillor
Allen
for
the
Department
of
Engineering
is
to
reclassify
of
a
traffic
engineer
position
which
is
presently
vacant.
At
a
grade
23
to
an
assistant
engineering
director
at
a
great
24,
the
engineering
department
has
provided
various
operating
reductions
to
offset
the
reclassification
surveyors,
no
impacts
to
the
fund
balance.
A
B
A
J
A
S
B
A
D
Keep
in
mind
that
the
elections
office
is
run
very
well
and
we
had
a
donation
of
equipment
last
year
of
1.2
million
from
Colorado
and
that
I'm
not
sure
the
number
of
years
she's
been
employed
here
with
the
city,
but
we
have
quite
a
few
people
being
paid
more
than
she
has
she's
being
paid
and
she's
done
a
great
job
over
there.
So
as
we
bring
on
new
people,
we
need
to
be
concerned
about
some
of
the
ones
they've
been
here
with
us
for
twenty
twenty-five
thirty
years.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
How
much
say
there's
a
couple
of
them
here?
You
know
it's
probably
questionable.
A
lot
of
people
are
really
trying
to
understand
it,
but
I
think
this
is
something
that
council
has
been
concerned
about
for
quite
a
while
I
know,
the
executive
administration
is
headed
in
a
direction
as
far
as
a
lot
of
the
department
leaders
and
all
and
and
has
brought
some
concern
and
granted.
P
P
Certainly
you
can
make
the
arguments
a
bad
time
to
do
it,
but
you
know,
when
is
a
good
time
when
you
you
talking
about
experience,
tenure,
gender,
ethnicity,
education,
just
of
a
world
of
experience
that
that
we've
got
to
really
look
at
and
so
I
think
when
you
look
at
these
this,
it's
somewhat
like
we
talked
about
earlier
with
the
coroner
just
making
a
correction
and
getting
it
all
up
to
up-to-date
and
I'll.
Tell
you
I,
don't
blame
anybody.
I
mean
I,
because
I
don't
know
obvious.
A
And
I
believe
that
the
offset
for
this
position
is
probably
available
in
a
budget
for
this
year,
but
going
forward
isn't
the
challenge.
So
this
would
not
I
think
we
can
find
the
offset
for
this
one
year,
but
these
positions
that
are
on
here,
I
felt
like
should
have
been
done
sometime
last
year
and
and
I'm
committed
to
making
sure
and
the
reason.
Quite
simply.
A
L
A
Don't
know
and
I
think
it
would
take
and
I
want
to
put
she
I,
don't
want
to
put
on
the
spot
here
and
just
make
that
determination
right
away,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
there
should
be
and
will
be,
some
continuing
discussion
about
it
and
like
like
councillor,
Baker
was
making
a
point
earlier.
We
can
make
modifications
and
changes
up
to
the
thing
and
I've,
which
is
just
my
issue
with
with
paying
an
out
of
fund
balance,
so
I
certainly
understand
the
need.
D
N
So,
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware,
our
budget
fluctuates
based
on
the
number
of
elections
that
we
have
in
a
year
and
when
we
pass
the
FY
17
budget
at
the
time
the
runoff,
the
December
runoff
was
not
budgeted
and
I
believe
we
have
been
able
to
maintain
that
budget
without
funding
without
additional
funding
for
the
unbudgeted
runoff.
This
that
was
held
in
December
I
also
believe
that
there
is
funding
there
for
the
increase
this
year
for
a
carryover.
N
A
P
Mr.
budget
chair,
I
just
think
I
just
need
to
say
this:
it's
it's
from
the
heart,
but
nobody
solicited
or
anybody
requested.
What
is
on
this
list
matter
of
fact,
if
you
really
look
at
what's
in
the
budget,
I
think
you
you
will
see
where
individuals
have
pretty
much
gone
to
bat
for
everybody
else
and
leaving
themselves
on
the
sidelines,
which
is
somewhat
a
you
know,
I've.
Just
from
my
background.
That's
a
display
of
leadership.
A
O
F
C
Q
C
O
F
I've
just
got
a
lot
of
constituents
in
my
district
that
both
volunteer
and
then
are
very
active
in
animal
rescue
and
other
mayor
is
under
leadership.
We've
come
a
long
way
with
shield
rates,
and
things
like
that
and
I
know
to
me
vaccinations
and
spay/neutering
or
Keystone's
of
that.
How
I
would
hate
to
lose
to
lose
that
I
know.
Funding
is
an
issue
as
we've
gone
through
today,
but
if
there's
any
opportunities
to
replenish
those
as
you
go
through,
please
keep
an
eye
on
that
see.
L
F
L
T
O
F
A
E
K
A
E
A
I
B
Next
item
on
the
add
delete
list
is
an
email
received
from
counselor
Davis.
It
was
to
delete
the
paramedic
certification
increase
for
administrative
staff
within
the
fire,
EMS
Department,
that
budgetary
impact
is
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars,
and
just
I
guess
expound
a
little
bit
more
on
that.
That
amounts
to
ten
individuals
receiving
the
additional
thousand
dollar
increase
for
having
a
paramedic
certification,
counselor.
P
Davis
and
just
to
further
expand
on
the
logical
man,
I
think.
The
way
the
presentation
was
presented
to
us
is
that
there
were
several
opportunities
for
well
to
to
discuss
or
go
back
for
quote
pay
reform.
I
know
the
concern
which
was
stated
very
well
in
the
presentation
was
key
and
what
we
were
doing
was
to
retain
and
recruit
in
this
case
fire
medics,
paramedics
and-
and
that
was
the
purpose
behind.
In
my
mind,
the
purpose
behind
the
additional.
P
What
would
be
considered
a
you
know,
just
call
it
a
supplement
for
like
words,
you
know
in
my
mind,
that
should
be
for
active
paramedics
that
are
fire
medics
that
are
out
there,
whether
you're,
ranked
or
not
you're
out
there
day
in
and
day
out,
that's
what
you're
doing
at
your
service.
I
look
at
administration
or,
let's
just
say,
a
tower
behind
the
desk
or
administration,
totally
different.
Now,
if,
in
the
way,
this
would
be
defined,
I
guess
it
would
have
to
have
a
definition
behind
it.
P
G
J
B
So
position
title:
one
individual
is
a
sergeant
for
investigation,
so
that
are
three
lieutenant
I'm.
Sorry,
two
lieutenants
for
training;
three,
so
two
training
lieutenant
one:
five
captain
EMT
one
fire
captain
rescue
one
captain
Els
coordinator,
one
fire;
captain
training,
paramedic
instructor,
one
division;
chief,
I'm
Deputy,
Fire
Chief
and
one
assistant
fire
chief.
G
And
it
may
be
helpful
if
cube
Meier
were
closer
to
the
mic.
Most
of
the
people
that
you
call
most
of
the
positions
that
you
called
out
are
not
people
that
are
sitting
in
an
office
somewhere.
Is
that
right
I
mean?
Is
that
I
mean
you're
talking
about
a
sergeant
you're
talking
about
training,
trainers.
G
They're
not
effect
I
guess.
Part
of
my
concern
is
I.
Perhaps
could
see
this
if
we
said
if
you
are
a
this
level
or
above
you,
don't
get
it
if
you're
this
level,
and
you
know
that
you
do
get
it
if
you're
a
paramedic
but
to
the
way
this
is
written.
If
you
are
paramedic
and
don't
ride
the
ambulance
you
don't
get,
it
is
that
right,
I
think.
B
P
In
and
we
put
it
on
the
list
too
without
I-
think
one
of
the
key
thing
councillor
thomas,
is
having
that
definition
that
we've
been
struggling
to
find
that
it
first
started
out
at
a
different
number,
now
we're
at
a
different
number.
But
I
you
know,
I
do
understand
what
you
say
on
the
training
side,
that
they're
actively
engaged
with
the
active
paramedics
I
would
I
would
I
would
yield
to
say
that
that
would
be
the
definition
that
they
would
also
receive
that
supplement
if
they
are
directly
attached
to
training
the
paramedics
and
I.
U
Now
that's
finally
I
appreciate
the
question
and
the
counselor
is
concerned
with
the
supplement.
I
can
see
how
it
can
be
looked
at
in
the
way
that
the
proposal
was
made
years
ago.
I
guess
it
was
seven
or
eight
years
ago.
Now
we
we
squared
this
away
in
that
the
paramedics
that
were
receiving
the
certification
pay
is
what
it
was
called.
I
would
not
lose
that
as
they
were
promoted
and
went
through
the
ranks
for
the
playing
civil
reason
that
nobody
would
put
in
for
promotion
anymore
if
they
lost
money.
U
So
these
staff
or
personnel
that
we're
talking
about
whether
they're
in
training
assistant
chief
of
the
department,
deputy
chief,
they
all
have
a
role
to
play
in
providing
EMS
service
here
in
Columbus
Georgia.
They
could
possibly
be
sitting.
We
have
members
of
those
people,
that's
it
on
the
region,
EMS
Council.
The
council
looks
over
and
makes
the
decisions
for
EMS
rules
and
regs
and
zoning
for
our
whole
region.
So
we
have
representation
on
that
council
that
that
supports
the
EMS
services,
not
only
in
the
region,
but
here
in
Columbus
Georgia.
U
Our
rescue
coordinator
is
doing
the
swift
water
rescue
or
the
high
angle
rescue
our
the
one
sergeant.
That's
in
investigations,
that's
also
a
City
one
of
the
city's
few
bomb
techs
and
also
is
a
SWAT
medic.
So
he'll
go
out
with
law
enforcement
on
search
warrants
for
felons,
possibly
with
marshals
federal,
Marshal's,
Office
and
acts
as
that
SWAT
medic
they're.
Also,
that
person
is
also
a
law
enforcement
trait.
U
Of
course,
the
assistant
chief
of
the
department
is
my
assistant
chief
and
one
I
can
go
to
who
was
actually
the
assistant
chief
of
the
EMS
before
we
consolidated
into
I
of
2001
I
rec
captain
this
EMS
coordinator
does
the
quality
and
insurance
on
all
the
patient
care
reports
that
go
to
Billy.
That
building
has
a
question
on
one
of
the
patient
care
reports.
They
contact
that
captain
and
he
addresses
those
concerns.
P
Measure
two
chief,
and
that
is
the
role
being
played
without
a
doubt,
I
mean
that's,
that's
without
a
doubt,
but
as
I
go
back
to
the
presentation,
the
reason
and
the
purpose,
but
why
we're
doing
this
we're
making
a
big
step
forward?
Which
I
don't
want
it
to
get?
The
reason
I
proposed
them?
What
on
proposing-
and
maybe
maybe
for
discussion
at
this
point,
if
my
think
council
would
some
might
have
talked
about
maybe
coming
back
and
we
can
still
make
the
approval
and
define
it
later.
P
That's
not
that's
not
an
issue,
but
the
what
I
don't
want
to
cross
over
into
is
you've
got
people
through
your
departmental
certifications
and
when
you
start
weighing
on
what's
the
purpose
of
Latham
we're
doing
this
for
retention
and
recruitment,
because
we've
got
a
situation
where
we're
trying
to
find
paramedics
and
keep
them.
We've
got
somewhat
of
a
crisis
there
that
we've
been
dealing
with
for
a
while
and
there's
not
an
issue
on
the
other
side
of
where
there's,
let's
just
call
it
support.
P
There
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
issue
there.
The
issue
is
out
in
the
field
with
the
with
the
active
ones
and
I:
don't
want
to
be
careful
that
we're
rewarding
an
individual
where
now
it
brings
in
all
the
certifications
into
play,
where
we've
got
to
look
at
those
as
well,
so
I
think
by
the
very
definition
and
the
presentation
how
its
come
to
us.
That's
why
that's
the
angle
I'm
looking
at
it.
L
P
You
know
the
part
about
the
the
let's
just
again
call
it
support
where
everybody
had.
Yes,
everybody
in
the
fire
department
has
an
active
role.
You
can
say
all
the
way
down
to
the
firefighter.
The
firefighter
has
an
active
role
with
the
paramedics
as
well.
You
know,
I
think
it's
a
team,
as
you
described
before,
word
all
functions
together,
but
in
this
case
we're
trying
to
retain
and
recruit
certain
individuals.
That's
what
the
request
was
for
the
for
the
revenue.
Well,.
U
And
and
your
points
well-taken,
but
but
going
forward
and
we've
got
a
promotion
procedure
this
year,
so
I've
got
fire
medics
that
will
be
able
to
put
in
for
promotion.
Let's
say:
they're
getting
this
additional
thousand
dollar
certification
fee
and
next-
and
it's
just
for
conversation-
see
next
March.
U
Therefore
moded
now
do
they
keep
it
or
do
they
lose
it
so
I
think
I'm
going
all
the
way
back,
seven
or
eight
years
and
go
and
look
if
it's
important
now
I
think
it's
important
throughout
that
employees
30-year
career
that
we
can
use
that
as
a
recruitment
tool.
You
know,
we've
done
a
lot
of
things
and
council
has
been
very
supportive
in
adjusting
the
promotional
procedure.
One
of
those
things
that
we
dug
in
and
in
supporting
the
move
from
the
14
to
15.
P
Yeah
we
talked
about
you,
you
mentioned
favorite
form,
which
certainly
always
be
all
the
individuals
were
talking
about,
will
be
covered
and
that's
where
I
think
there's
a
line
of
different
a
differential
in
what
we're
talking
about
here
so
anyway,
I
know
miss
city,
mister
budget
chair.
Maybe
it's
probably
appropriate
to
maybe
pull
this
off
the
list
and
come
back
to
when
we
have
a
mission
work
session
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
it.
A
U
A
L
B
K
A
M
Make
this
real
quick
because
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
actually
add
this
as
revenue
yet
but
I'd
made
a
referral
to
consolidate
our
city
permits
for
dogs
with
the
rabies,
vaccination.
The
reason
I
bring
that
up
is
because,
when
I
met
with
director
short,
we
had
29,000
rabies
permits
issued
only
at
19,000
city
permits
issued.
If
we
can
saw
even
to
one
the
minimum
$10.
M
If
your
dog
is
vaccinated
or
excuse
me
not
vaccinated
is
$10
if
they
are
neutered
and
$40
fee
for
the
city
permit
if
they
are
not,
but
there's
a
10,000
animal
variants
and
it
also
consolidates
a
record-keeping.
But
we
just
require
the
vets
to
one
permit.
We
got
to
get
the
ordinance
actually
has
to
come
before
us,
but
it
is
something
I
did
want
to
bring
up
because
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
hadn't
come
before
us,
but
that's
revenue
that
we're
losing
out
on
right
now.
Listen,
nothing!.
A
Under
Thousand,
Leagues
I
think
it
represents
forward-thinking
and
glad
to
see
you're
looking
for
ways
to
to
streamline
things
and
generate
revenue.
That's
a
great
idea,
I
think
from
a
procedural
standpoint.
We
probably
should
take
a
look
at
an
ordinance,
make
sure
it
passes,
but
that's
awesome
to
put
on
the
radar
screen
and
it's
something
that
we
could
take
a
look
at
mid-year
on
some
of
these
items
that
we
have
prioritized
good.
J
B
M
Mayor
Burton,
my
understanding
is
that,
right
now
their
policy
is
to
respond,
and
maybe
the
chief
could
offer
more
direction
that,
but
to
basically
be
a
backup
for
our
police
officers
and
also
to
they
come
across
someone
who
has
has
a
warrant
out
in
their
normal
course
of
duties,
but
they're
supposed
to
detain
them
and
they're
specially
respondent
seen
so
unless
we
make
a
formal
policy
change
or
the
marshal's
office
makes
that
policy
change.
That's
their
reasoning
for
that.
A
You
know
and
I
think
the
list
of
this
council,
and
previously
this
administration
previous
administration,
made
commitments
to
making
sure
that
all
of
our
public
safety
areas
had
all
the
equipment
and
the
necessary
computers
and
technology
to
be
able
to
both
protect
themselves
and
assist
in
the
policing.
Endeavor
I
think,
though,
that.
L
A
I
go
back
to
if,
if
we
had
the
money
in
the
fund
balance,
if
we
had
the
ability
to
do
this
without
further
kind
of
pinching,
our
our
funds
I
would
support
it
in
a
heartbeat,
but
it
just
find
myself
thinking
that.
Yes,
they
do
system
backup.
Their
primary
function
is
serve
the
courts
and
if
I
have
only
enough
money
for
to
pursuit
vehicles,
I
would
my
opinion.
A
I
would
put
them
in
the
department
who
responds
to
them
when
one
calls
and
who
finds
themself
as
part
of
their
core
mission
engaged
in
potential
pursuit
situations.
It's
not
to
minimize
what
any
of
the
other
public
safety
departments
do
is
just
it
in
a
prioritization
mode.
When
you're
going
through
this
type
of
a
budget,
I
mean
that's
just
it's
just
my
mind,
my
view
of
it
council
yeah.
K
N
D
P
Budget
chair
can
somebody
help
me
understand
how
we're
going
to
replace
those
two
CP
decock
vehicles.
A
B
E
E
E
C
P
A
R
G
P
I,
you
know
what
I
thought
I
mean.
I
would
be
willing
to
stretch
one
of
the
pursuit
vehicles,
but
I
thought
that
was
the
request
was.
That
was
where
the
need
was.
What
what
are
the
administrative
vehicles
being
used
for
I
mean
where
they
going
or
are
they?
Are
they
just
going
to
replace
the
administrative
positions
vehicles?
Are
they
actually
going
to
be
out
on
the
I
thought?
The
request
was
for
the
need.
The
request
is
for
pursuit
cars.
D
A
A
D
Vehicles
is
for
definitely
going
out
to
do
the
evictions
and
for
those
stages
for
the
points
that
don't
want
to
lead
that
they
have
to
arrest
have
to
take
into
custody.
The
atman
cars
would
be
for
paperwork
purposes,
as
you
mentioned,
so
what
we
were
trying
to
do,
councilor
Davis,
is
to
find
out
what
we
could
get
Council
to
come
together.
So
we
were
trying
to
look
at
either.
We
had
to
pursuit
vehicles
on
the
list.
So
if
you're
in
favor
one,
we
could
go
with
one.
D
A
D
M
Acid
here
yeah:
basically,
the
marshals
already
said
that
he
needs
the
pursuit
vehicle,
so
I
propose
we
go
and
vote
on
those.
If
that
doesn't
pass
in
our
men
might
so
we
know
the
substitute
stuff
I'll
amend
my
request
for
the
Ministry
of
vehicles
for
two.
If
it
doesn't
get
the
pursuit
to
invest,
but
he's
expressed,
that
pursuit
is
what
he
needs.
Okay,.
G
The
pursuit
vehicle
is
about
$50,000
to
position
the
to
admin.
Vehicles
are
about
$40,000,
I'm
wondering
if,
if
we
approved
a
an
amount
of
money
and
said
to
the
marshal
either
spend
it
for
a
pursuit
vehicle
or
spend
it
for
to
administrative
vehicles.
I
mean
you
know
and
let
let
him
make
that
call
rather
than
us
trying
to
second-guess
that,
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
you
know.
I.
A
To
pers
to
admin
vehicles
and
he
decided
he
needed
to
pursue.
You
see
the
pursued
vehicle
out
there,
so
I
think
ultimately,
we
even
though
we
appropriate
that
amount
of
money
for
what
we
think
we
were
providing
if
he
uses
that
money
in
another
way,
unless
it's
personnel
he
just
loses.
Is
that
not
correct.
A
D
A
A
A
As
opposed
to
a
motion,
it
was
a
recommendation
to
approve
either
one
pursuit
vehicle
or
to
the
admin
since
the
amount
a
difference
was,
you
know,
five
to
ten
thousand
dollars,
but
right
now
the
motion
on
the
table
for
two
pursuit
vehicles-
I,
haven't
heard.
A
second
are
the
motion.
Second,
for
two
pursuit
vehicles
for
Marshall's
office
out
of
the
old
lost
funds
to
the
motion,
any
comments,
questions
all
right,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
all
opposed,
raise
your
right
hand
if
you're
in
favor,
please
those
opposed.
A
B
A
D
A
A
M
P
A
That,
if
you
you,
you
approve
that
vehicle.
That's
our
intention,
we're
just
my
comments
earlier
were
just
that.
Marshall
is
elected
official
if
he
gets
in
and
decide
he'd
rather
have
to
that's
that's
his
decision
and
I.
Don't
know
that
he
has
to
come
back
to
Council
for
that
line
item
as
long
as
it
doesn't
exceed
the
amount
that
was
originally
appropriated
for
the
well.
P
D
P
Just
came
around
my
understanding
through
this
budget
process,
what
we
talked
about
whole
and
I'm,
going
back.
Okay,
just
help
me
if
I'm
on
the
same
page
with
everybody
here
I
know
we
just
put
it
in
to
a
number
of
issues
with
the
city
between
various
departments,
officers,
elected
officials,
okay,
but
through
that
it's
my
understanding
now
that
this
body,
the
administration
in
this
body,
has
the
right,
the
legal
right
and
the
authority
to
not
only
designate
funds.
P
But
our
excuse
me
not
only
to
administer
funds
or
to
appropriate
funds,
but
to
also
designate
those
funds,
and
the
finance
department
now
is
going
to
make
sure
from
an
accountable
standpoint.
I
think
we
talked
about
that.
We're
designating
funds
in
this
case
to
a
vehicle.
Yes,
that
that's
what
those
funds
be
used
for
well
and
that's
in.
E
Let
me
just
say
that
the
deputy
city
managers
just
came
over
and
said
to
me
now,
when
they
appropriate
funds
for
a
vehicle
or
in
a
specific
vehicle
in
order
for
them
to
order
something
different
they've
got
to
come
back
to
Council.
We
just
don't
go
when
you
say
that
it
was
an
administrative
vehicle
and
you
want
to
pursue
vehicle
or
vice
versa,
and
so
they
would
have
to
come
back
to
Council.
So
whatever
you
approve
is
what
we're
going
to
hold
them
to
well,.
A
So
we
have
so
we're
back
to
the
motion
for
the
pursued,
be
yes,
we
have
one
procedure
all
right
and
there
was
a
second
any
other
comments.
Any
questions
to
motion
those
in
favor
providing
the
pursued
vehicle
out
of
the
old
lost
funds
to
the
Marshall
Police,
say:
I
call
those
against
see.
Oh,
no
ready.
Please
raise
your
right
hand
if
you're
in
favor.
N
D
K
A
The
mayor
is
just
informed
us
that
if
we
want
to
continuances
we're
getting
close
to
the
end
of
the
a
delete
list,
we'll
just
continue
on
in
the
City
Council
meeting,
we'll
start
just
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
later.
That's
okay,
yeah!
We
I
think
we're
going
to
get
very
close
to
you.
Don't
all
right!
Well,
let's
just
keep
moving
on
councillor
Thomas.
It
was
an
inconclusive
vote
for
one
pursuit
vehicle
for
the
marshal
I'm
on
I.
A
N
B
R
B
B
Well,
the
first
item
was
the
one
that
did
not
pass
in
the
general
fund
that
was
to
delete
the
lost
supplement
that
was
related
to
the
reclassification
of
the
correctional
officer
to
the
assistant
division
manager.
The
second
item
is,
for
a
loss
supplement
to
add
one
loss
supplement
and
that's
to
reclassify
a
rain
water
supervisor
from
me,
general
government,
great
15,
to
a
public
safety
grade
15.
We
actually
have
not
voted
on
the
reclassification
for
the
position
itself.
That's
actually
on
the
others
fun
list.
B
K
A
B
You
if
the
law
supplement
is
in
the
lost
time,
because
that's
where
we
pay
all
the
lost
supplemental.
So
if
we
don't
feel
if
she
doesn't
feel
that
correctional
officer
position
in
the
general
fund,
then
it
could
be
budget
neutral
or
she
reclassifies
it
to
something
else.
That's
not
a
public
safety,
Florin
officer
position
worthy
of
the
law
supplement,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
note
that
the
position
itself,
the
reclassification
for
the
position
is
on
the
third
page,
because
it's
got
a
bit
stormwater
fun.
B
Currently,
the
supplement-
that's
in
the
old
loss,
is
for
a
correctional
officer
position
that
she
has
that
she
wanted
to
reclassify.
These
two
items
are
really
unrelated.
I
was
just
making
note
that
the
first
supplement
that
where
we
were
deleting
the
supplement,
because
of
the
reclassification
of
the
correctional
officer
that
did
not
pass
in
the
general
fund,
so
we
could
skip
that
item.
The
next
item
was
to
add
at
one
loss
supplement
to
the
rain
water
supervisor,
because
she
was
changing
it
from
a
general
government
position
to
a
public
safety
position.
O
G
E
G
E
O
E
G
E
G
L
E
O
G
B
In
order
to
reclassify
this
general
government
position
to
a
public
safety
position,
if
not
exactly
budget
neutral,
because
there's
an
impact
to
the
pension,
the
pension
contributions
for
the
general
government,
employees
is
only
eight
point.
Two
five
percent,
whereas
for
Public
Safety
is
seventeen
and
a
half
percent.
So
there
is
some
budget
impact
to
reclassify
this
position
from
a
general
government
position
to
a
public
safety
position.
That's
what
I
have
listed
here
on
the
sheet,
but
I
do
remember,
directed
vigilant,
mentioning
a
presentation.
B
There
was
the
tree
trimmer
or
the
crew
leader,
because
with
the
crew
leader
position
in
the
general
fund
that
she
wanted
to
reclassify
this
a
position
so
I
have
to
go
back
in
I'm.
Some
little
fuzzy
on
the
details
right
now,
I
give
you
can
give
in
just
a
second
I
can
pull
up
the
presentation
just
to
be
sure
I.
E
G
B
A
B
B
A
Think
next
item
is
the
is
the
share
of
paper
fall
in
the
first
phase?
Five
hundred
fifty
nine
thousand
frankly,
I
think
I'm,
not
sure
why
it's
on
here,
I
didn't
want
it
on
here
I'm
in
complete
agreement
with
this
particular
initiative.
I
think
the
way
kind
of
on
here
is
councillor.
Thomas
had
asked
questions
and
we
were
getting
kind
of
in-depth
and
I
just
reminded
us
that
we
could
put
it
on
this
list.
If
we
wanted
to
postpone
that
discussion,
I
think
it's.
A
This
is
the
I
think
it's
the
kind
of
gap
day
and
yes
correcting
that
and
and
so
I
don't
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
way
that's
being
handled
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
need
it
on
there.
But
if
anybody
has
any
questions
about
this
particular
initiative
of
the
sheriff's,
the
sheriff
is
here
councillor
Davis.
P
P
E
A
C
G
C
C
These
are
actually
I'm
sorry,
the
1414
positions
that
were
funded
from
lost
positions
would
be
used
to
find
this
gap.
Time
pay
reform
and
therefore
relieve
the
impact
on
the
budget
in
general,
but
particularly
our
general
fund,
from
overruns
due
to
overtime
which
have
been
up
to
two
million
dollars.
Fourteen.
L
C
G
Never
move
what
what
what
we
authorized
to
fund
out
of
the
owe
loss
was
a
total
of
78
positions
and
initially
12
of
those
was
were
to
be
deputy
positions
and
sixty
six
of
those
were
to
be
correctional
officers
when
we
built
the
new
wing
at
the
jail,
the
new
tower
at
the
jail.
What
has
happened
since
then
is
we
have
funded
part
of
those
correctional
officers
without
building
the
the
tower
at
the
jail,
but
the
positions
that
were
not
filled
have
not
been
funded.
Isn't
that.
H
Correct
this
is
utilizing
funding
for
14
of
the
original
78
position
for
the
560
thousand.
So
what
the
sheriff
has
agreed
to
do
out
of
the
78
that
was
originally
approved,
los
26
have
already
been
authorized.
What
she's
requesting
to
do
is
use
14
of
those
78
and
she's,
saying
that
she
will
not
request
those
14
positions
of
the
78
to
utilize
that
560,000
towards
this
elimination
of
gap.
Time
well.
G
H
G
C
G
H
Are
dog-eared
it's
part
of
the
FY
18
budget?
So
if
you
look
at
all
of
the
positions
that
were
funded
in
FY
17,
then
we
take
out
of
that
is
a
amount
that's
remaining
for
the
amount.
That's
remaining
14
of
the
positions
are
being
utilized
for
gap
time
and
the
remainder
of
those
of
those
funds
are
being
utilized
to
distribute
capital
amongst
the
public
safety
agencies,
and
that's
had.
G
H
H
H
K
H
H
C
We
recommend
it
councillor,
Davis's
being
incredibly
prudent
in
a
way
to
reform.
What
has
been
an
out-of-control
pace
system,
particularly
in
the
sheriff's
office
under
prior
leadership,
is,
was
made
a
big
issue
in
Prior
discussions,
and
so
this
is
an
opportunity
to
get
some
things
straight
and
save
us
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
and,
though,
there's
a
difference
of
opinion
that
we
feel
very
strongly
is
an
appropriate
use
of
Oh
Ross
funds
because
being
used
for
Public
Safety
for
pay
for
for
post
certified
certified
employees.
It.
A
B
All
right,
so
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
sheriff
affirmed
on
phase
two
and
which
would
be
reducing
the
contingency
found
and
placing
that
three
hundred
and
seventy
two
thousand
dollars
in
the
sheriff's
budget.
This
was
an
item
that
was
placed
on
the
absolute
less
on
the
sixteenth
mean
by
councillor
Davis.
P
P
I
know
that's
something
that
they
talked
about
and,
and
it
looks
like
it's
phase
two
and
they're-
going
to
continue
to
work
on
it,
but
I'm
doing
my
math
here
and
there's
just
no
way
to
get
through
this
list
with
this
amount
that
that's
being
requested
so
I
think
I
hope.
That's
understandable.
We've
got
some
other
items
on
here.
That
I
would
consider
extremely
important
I.
Just
don't
think
we're
going
to
get
to
that
point.
So
we
can
vote
on
it.
I
don't
mind.
Voting
on
it
or
I
can
take
it
off
the.
B
L
A
T
Understand
when
I
can't
even
made
my
presentation,
I
said
I
do
understand
that
it's
tough
budget
year.
The
reason
I
wanted
to
try
to
address
both
in
one
year.
It's
nothing
that
I'm
doing
here
is
any
different
than
what
the
Columbus
Police
Department
has
done.
Only
difference
is
they
did
it
in
two
budget
years.
The
reason
it
is
important
is
to
when
you
deal
with
the
pain,
compression
part
people
that
have
been
here
for
a
while.
They
will
get
something
our
news.
T
People
are
lowest
paid,
employees
are
going
to
be
the
people,
this
part
will
affect
and
they
would
be
getting
nothing
if
we
don't
get
both
parts
of
this.
My
understanding
about
this
money
was
that
it
was
set
aside,
not
otherwise
already
delegated.
To
something
else.
I
would
request
that
if
we
could
not
do
it
immediately,
because
I
do
understand
immediate
needs,
could
we
come
back
at
mid-year
and
address
it.
T
A
It's
something
that
we
need
to
address
in
my
opinion
and
I
think
it's
it's
certainly
a
high
priority
and
we
would
be
happy
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Mid-Year,
keep
in
mind
that
a
lot
of
these
items
that
have
been
voted,
no
people
will
have
an
interest
in
bringing
them
back,
but
but
I
do
I
do
understand
that
that
this
is
critical
to
trying
to
do
what
you
can
to
write
the
whole
ship.
That's.
T
Right
and
and
not
hurt
our
employees,
you
know,
and
that's
what
I
see
if
we
can't
try
to
address
both
parts
of
this
people
are
going
to
certainly
have
the
perception
that
that
it's
flooding
them
instead
of
helping
them-
and
you
know-
and
that's
certainly
not
where
I
believe
the
council
wants
to
go,
and
it's
certainly
not
where
I
want
to
go,
and
my
understanding
again
was
the
money
is
set
aside.
It's
not
otherwise
delegated
to
something
else.
So
certainly
I
would
appreciate
your
consideration
on
it.
Thank.
P
Request
to
us
and
how
you've
gone
about
it,
I
I
do
want
to
say,
though
I
do
think,
there's
a
difference
and-
and
we
don't
want
to
get
that
kind
of
misunderstood,
but
the
there's
a
difference
in
some
of
these
pay
reforms
that
we've
done
in
various
departments.
Oh
I,
in
with
respect
to
the
sheriff's
office
and
all
the
the
men
and
women
of
the
sheriff's
office,
I.
P
T
I
do
understand
that,
but,
like
I
said
at
the
first
meeting,
I
have
all
the
respect
in
the
world
for
the
Columbus
Police
Department
and
the
job
they
do,
but
once
they
pick
up
that
person
and
they
take
them
into
custody
that
will
bring
them
to
us
and
seven
days
a
week
365
days
a
year.
We
need
great
people
working
in
that
jail
facility
working
in
those
courts,
and
you
know
to
me
their
value
is
just
as
much
as
the
Columbus
Police
Department
or
the
marshal's
office.
T
A
B
A
J
J
L
A
F
A
F
K
H
H
F
So
we
spent
having
half-hour
talking
about
a
car
a
minute
ago
that
I
think
we
can
do
better
than
that,
but
I
think
the
administration
needs
some
guidance
from
us
from
a
policy
standpoint,
not
just
mileage
in
years,
but
actually
when
and
how
to
replace
as
we
get
along,
and
hopefully
that
would
help
us
guide
us
through
some
of
these
discussions.
Yeah.
S
F
A
G
N
A
J
B
B
K
G
E
And
basically,
what
you're
saying
is
the
three
hundred
and
seventy
two
thousand
that
we
had
in
contingency
to
take
care
of
phase
two
for
sheriff.
You
would,
in
essence,
be
taken
the
phase
two
money
in
contingency
for
sheriff
and
fund
into
police
vehicles,
and
it
would
not
change
no,
no
I'm
talking
about
to
cut
the
number
of
days.
That's
what
I'm
saying
I
didn't
give
an
opinion.
I
gave
an
observation.
A
Where
we
are
where
we
are,
is
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
floor
for
the
two
pursuit
vehicles
with
the
build-out.
There
has
been
no
incorporating
into
the
motion
where
it
money
comes
from.
So
there's
a
motion
in
second:
do
we
have
a
second?
We
did
so,
let's
go
ahead.
Call
the
question
any
other
comments
there
any
questions
regarding
them,
hi
all
in
favor,
please
say
hi.
I
R
A
P
Did
want
to
say
that
if
the
administration,
if
things
changes
as
we
go,
I
mean
we
just
approved,
they
a
request
to
approve
funding,
but
if
we
want
to
along
the
way
move
it,
whether
it's
from
whether
it's
from
the
general
fund
or
some
fund
balance,
whether
it's
from
additional
monies
and
the
loss
to
whatever
I
you
know,
I,
it
doesn't
I,
don't
have
a
problem
right
now.
I
guess
we're
designating
it
coming
out
of
the
fund
balance,
but
if
it
seemed
differently
later
at
a
later
date
and
then
I
would
suggest
well.
B
G
Would
it
be
appropriate?
Well,
but
perhaps
not
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
want
to
say
is
that
one
of
these
motorcycles
costs
about
it
cost
$27,000
with
the
with
the
traffic
ticket
that
they
do
I
see
them
sitting
on
River,
Road
and
slow
down
every
time
I
see
them
with,
but
with
this
with
the
money
that
they
generate
from
there
from
traffic
tickets.
G
This
motorcycle
will
pay
for
itself
in
two
months
and
then
it
will
be
good
for
another
five
years,
so
we're
I
would
I
would
hope
that
we
would
approve
both
motorcycles
because
they
will,
it
will
mean
increase
revenue
to
the
city
and
I
know
that
it
doesn't
go
directly
to
the
police
department,
but
it
it
generates
income
to
this
villian.
So.
A
P
Let's
just
take
it
from
a
different
perspective
when
we
get
calls
from
citizens
coming
in
about
speeders
and
neighborhoods
excessive
speed
all
that
in
neighborhoods.
These
are
the
vehicles,
in
this
case
the
motorcycles,
the
instruments
that
we're
talking
about
that's
being
sent
out
there.
So
if
they're
not
there,
then
you
know
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
meet
those
requests
within
the
neighborhood
they're
coming
from
our
constituents.
Absolutely
good
point.
A
B
A
B
G
G
P
I
think
if
we
don't
approve
the
licensing
fee,
then
then
certainly
the
court,
the
license
plate
reader
goes
away,
but
let
me
go
back
a
little
history
here
when
we
started
on
this.
The
marshals
department
was
the
first
department
that
came
to
us
through
a
grant
and
didn't
cost
the
city
any
money
and
that's
the
way
it
was
being
proposed.
P
The
license
plate
readers,
I,
don't
think
up
to
this
day,
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
this
from
a
standpoint
being
brought
to
us
as
software
fees
for
a
piece
of
equipment
and
certainly
if,
if
I,
would
have
known
that
back
then
I
don't
know
if
I
would
have
supported
it,
because
it's
just
an
ongoing
I
mean
it's
an
ongoing
cost
to
the
city.
We
have
I
go
back
to
the
the
core
mission
we
have
now
today.
Let's
just
fast
forward
to
today,
CPD's
got
them
I.
P
P
Because
it's
just
there's
continuing
to
be
a
increase
of
these
things
out
there?
It's
just
another
expenditure
to
the
to
the
government
and
I
mean
that's
just
the
way.
I
look
at
I
didn't
I
thought
this
was
a
call
for
a
new
one,
but
a
licensing
fee,
I,
guess
they're
all
now
under
licensing
fees
or
software
fees
is
that
is
that
right,
right.
B
P
M
Would
just
say
this
is
based
off
the
memo
that
the
marshal
sent
us.
You
know
we
do
have
the
Capitol
already.
We've
got
the
actual
reader
and
they're
driving
around
and
they're
catching
criminals
without
even
doing
anything
because
it
pops
up
as
soon
as
a
warrant
and
the
number
one
concern
I
hear
from
my
constituents
is
crime
prevention
and
to
me,
Lee,
foolish,
first,
not
to
enable
us
to
use
the
one
one
thing
where
I've
spent
money
on
that
cool
device.
So
all.
B
B
D
Yeah
in
him
doing
his
core
mission,
they
come
from
an
eviction
or
something
and
just
happened-
to
pass
a
criminal
somewhere
along
the
way.
They
pick
this
information
up
and
pass
it
on
to
CBD.
Let
them
know
that,
what's
going
on
who's
out
there,
that
control
them
until
CPD
can
get
there.
But
my
point
to
all
of
this
is:
it
has
to
be
paid
and
I
think
we
just
have
severely
cut
his
budget.
D
A
R
R
R
A
E
E
E
A
B
D
B
B
B
Right
so
the
last
list
here
for
the
other
fund
I'm.
The
first
item
on
the
list
was
a
request
from
counsel
Davis
at
the
May
9th
meeting
for
the
human
resources
risk
management
on
division,
to
add
one
risk
analysts
and
to
find
that
by
reducing
contingency,
there's,
no
impact
to
the
budget
for
the
risk
management
fund.
Hi.
B
Categories
separately,
but
it's
all
one
from
balance
total,
and
so
what
was
provided
at
the
last
budget
review
session
was
a
seven-year
history
of
the
risk
management
fund.
It
shows
a
reduction
in
the
workers
comp
claims,
beginning
in
FY
14
on
there's
been
some
significant
reduction
by
a
risk
manager,
Ann
Marie
on
that
particular
side,
and
so
what
we?
The
risk
management
fund,
is
a
fund
that
we
allocate
it's
cost
out
to
all
of
the
other
funds,
and
so.
B
It's
budget
neutral
in
creating
this
position
in
reducing
the
contingency
because
the
funding
has
already
been
allocated
out
to
the
other
fund.
So
what
we'll
do
going
forward
is
reduce
the
amount
of
content
see
because
we've
done
so
well
in
reducing
the
workers,
comp
claims
and
really
controlling
the
liabilities.
As
far
as
the
risk
management
side,
we
go
and
try
what
we
anticipate
that
we
want
me
as
much
contingency
into
that
fund
as
we
budgeted
this
year.
F
P
P
The
sake
of
the
public
viewing
what
we're
dealing
with
now
is
restricted
funds,
so
these
are
designated
out
of
other
funds.
This
doesn't
have
an
impact
on
the
general
fund
or
the
for
the
fund
balance.
So-
and
you
know,
like
we
said
in
the
contingency
I-
think
that
the
you
know
that
the
trend
here,
even
though
you
have
a
contingency
based
on
I,
guess,
suits
or,
however
you
want
to
describe
them.
The
contingency
has
been
built
because
the
trend
is
that
human
resources
is
doing
a
good
job
at
managing
the
fund.
R
B
The
slam
where
to
find
there
is
allocations
to
the
engineering
department
as
well
as
public
works,
because
that
fund
is
specific.
We
can
only
spend
those
dollars
on
stormwater
improvements
and
that
sort
of
thing
that's
why
those
two
funds
are
really
the
only
funds,
only
departments
within
the
stormwater
fund,
as
well
as
the
paving
sign
there's
monies
allocate
to
public
works
as
well
as
engineering.
Okay,
all
right.
B
I
A
A
B
And
so
because
we're
dealing
with
all
the
other
signs
are
just
should
say,
multiple
funds,
that's
why
the
funding
and
department
units
are
listed
out
here
specifically.
So
the
next
item
on
the
list
was
based
on
the
on
the
I
delete
list
by
councillor
Thomas
at
the
May
16th
meeting
for
Public
Works,
to
reclassify
the
rain
water
supervisor,
general
governments
or
a
rain
water
supervisor,
Public
Safety
and
what's
most
here,
is
the
impact
to
the
pension,
the
difference
in
the
pension.
B
B
B
A
A
A
B
The
next
item
on
the
list
is
our
social
Public
Works.
It
was
an
item
placed
on
the
agenda
from
counsel
Allen
and
Mayor.
Pro
Tem
2
at
the
16th
meeting,
is
to
add
one
recycling
route
supervisor
g15.
This
is
a
new
position
that
is
presently
there's
plenty.
No
offsets
to
fund
the
positions,
so
Public
Works
would
have
to
make
some
other
reductions.
B
A
B
So
the
next
item
on
the
list
is
from
councillor
Alan
it's
for
the
Department
of
Engineering.
It
was
to
reclassify
a1
survey
crew
worker
deem
18
to
a
stormwater
data
inspector
G
16.
In
order
to
balance
the
Sun
on
the
department
has
made
various
operating
reductions,
which
I've
attached
to
your
add
delete
list.
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
E
E
E
The
other
person
is
the
finance
director
and
let
me
just
say
that
we
had
a
very
difficult
time:
hiring
an
inspection
and
codes
director
and
a
finance
director.
As
you
know,
the
finance
director
is
a
pay
grade,
26
at
a
higher
level
than
most
of
the
other
directors
and
was
new
and
and
so
we
wanted
to
go
a
year
and
see
how
that
person
performs
and
if
performed
successfully,
would
move
one
step,
two
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
five
dollars
and
eighty
four
cents.
It's
in
the
budget
and
its
budget
neutral.
E
The
other
person
or
two
people
is
assistant
to
the
city
manager,
was
promoted
in
June
of
last
year
in
the
past.
That
position
and
the
executive
assistant
to
the
city
manager
did
not
have
college
degrees
were
not
required
and,
and
both
one
in
June
of
last
year
got
the
bachelor's
degree
and
now
working
on
a
master's
we'll
have
that
in
December
and
the
employment
offer
was,
if
you
get
your
degree
and
you
perform
successfully
one
year,
we'll
move
you
one
step.
E
R
Mines
on
a
different
subject,
but
as
soon
as
he's
finished
before
we
adjourn
I
want
to
speak.
Okay.
E
P
P
E
P
In
again,
without
getting
deep
in
discussion
with,
you
know
we
again
in
my
in
my
site-
and
you
know-
we've
somewhat
corrected
some
things
that,
through
the
years
that
you
have
surface
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
this
would
be
right
along
the
lines
of
just
putting
it
all
out
on
the
table.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
to
us
alright.
Well,.
A
And
I
appreciate
clarification,
appreciated
city
managed
transparency
in
light
of
the
fact
I.
He
certainly
recognizes
how
tight
the
budget
is
and
wanted
to
try
to
make
sure
we're
aware
of
it.
Respect
that
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity,
though,
as
his
account
so
Davis
mentioned
to
maybe
take
a
look
in
a
tight
budget
environment
when
we
hire
just
including
counsel,
so
that
we
know
what
what's
coming
on
down
down
the
line,
but
they've
all
performed
certainly
well
enough
to
earn
any
kind
of
incentives
that
were
promised
in
councilor
Woodson.
Thank.
A
R
202,000
people
in
this
community
that
calls
in
and
I
feel
that
we
need
to
start
looking
at
their
office
and
taking
care
of
them
because
they
are
our
representation.
When
we're
not
here-
and
we
only
dollar
a
month
that
we're
talking
about
that
I'm
asking
us
and
you
need
to
look
at
it's
a
total
of
eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
thirty-five
dollars.
That
is
nothing
compared
to
all
the
dollars
that
we've
heard
today.
R
So
I
would
like
to
add
that,
for
when
we
come
back
before
we
vote
on
the
budget,
for
us
to
reconsider
and
I
would
ask
my
colleagues
to
please
think
about
their
jobs,
everything
they
do
for
us
and
how
home?
How
do
they
feel
they're
not
going
to
tell
us
their
disappointment
they're
not
going
to
tell
us
how
they
feel,
but
you
know
I'm
looking
at
them,
while
we're
approving
all
these
things
and
wondering
what's
going
through
their
minds.
R
So
I
want
to
add
those
two
on
those
two
requests
back
under
as
this
for
when
we
come
back
and
I
also
want
us
to
look
at
on
the
$25,000
for
Uptown
Columbus
and
my
reason
for
the
Uptown
Columbus's
said
they
have
done
a
lot
to
bring
our
city
to
the
forefront.
They
are
taking
care
of
a
recreational
area
that
the
public,
the
whole
city,
people
that
travel
come
around
are
looking
at
it.
So
Anjali
I
like
to
bring
those
three
back:
okay,
I.
K
R
A
R
A
R
A
A
K
R
A
Right,
no
further
business
just
want
to
thank
the
administration
think
with
Alexander.
He
did
an
amazing
job
for
her
first
run
through
the
budget
and
I
want
to
thank
this
council
people
don't
may
not
appreciate
or
recognize
the
fact
that
every
vote,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
requests
made
by
our
employees,
is
agonized
over
my
everybody
around
this
table
and
there's
no
easy
votes.
You
might
not
agree
with
some
of
the
votes
but
I
guarantee.
If
you
ask
anybody
around
this
table,
why
they
voted
a
certain
way.