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From YouTube: Let's Talk with The Mayor 03 22 2018
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A
Ask
all
those
that
are
getting
snacks
come
on
in
and
please
sit
in
the
front.
We
want
our
sponsors
and
our
guests
to
be
sure
and
set
up
front.
We've
got
plenty
of
seating
over
here
to
my
right,
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
the
Springer
Opera
House,
the
state's
Theater.
We
are
so
fortunate
today
to
have
the
29th.
Let's
talk
with
the
mayor,
to
be
hosted,
of
course
here
at
the
Springer
to
be
sponsored
by
the
Cultural
Arts
Alliance
that
includes
the
Springer
and
the
River
Center
so
Paul
and
norm.
A
Thank
you
so
much
also
for
historic,
it's
being
sponsored
by
the
historic
Columbus
foundation.
I
see
Elizabeth
Barker
and
her
group.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
helping
us
get
the
word
out
and
also
uptown
eat
in
the
bit.
I
saw
Ross
Horner,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
what
you've
done
to
help
pull
this
get
together
this
evening
to
supply
the
snacks
and,
let's
just
give
them
a
round
of
applause
for
being
great.
A
Well,
as
I
said,
this
is
the
29th.
Let's
talk
with
the
mayor.
The
purpose
of
this
is,
of
course,
to
come
to
those
areas
where
citizens
feel
comfortable
gathering,
not
making
you
come
to
the
mayor's
office
or
making
you
come
down
to
City
Hall
or
even
a
City
Council
meeting,
to
ask
a
simple
question:
to
voice
your
concerns
or
to
just
give
us
an
idea,
a
bright
idea,
we're
always
looking
for
those.
A
So
we're
going
to
make
some
very
preliminary
very
short
comments
about
things
going
on
in
the
city,
to
maybe
grease
the
wheel
of
your
mind
and
and
and
and
some
of
the
things
that
you
may
want
to
know
about.
But
then
it's
going
to
be
your
show
for
about
75
minutes.
You
can
ask
questions
so
be
thinking
about
things
that
maybe
you've
just
always
wondered
about
things
about
your
neighborhood
or
how
the
city
works,
and
now
we've
got
all
the
right
people
here
to
answer
those
questions.
A
So
let
me
introduce
a
few
folks:
we've
got
our
city
manager,
mr.
Isaiah
Hughley.
He
can
answer
it.
All
he's
been
with
us
and
almost
35
30
34
years.
So
we
started
at
Metra
and
and
then
made
his
rounds
away
around
the
city
and
now
is
our
city
manager.
So
we
also
have
two
deputy
city
managers.
We
have
Lisa
Goodwin
Lisa
handles
sort
of
Parks,
&,
Rec
and
Public
Works,
and
several
of
the
bigger
departments
that
you're
probably
familiar
with
are
under
Lisa.
A
Then
Pam
handles
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
Pam
Hajj
in
the
back,
so
planning
transportation
projects,
things
of
that
nature
and
and
then
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
department
heads
I'm
not
going
to
introduce
all
of
them.
Obviously,
but
we've
got
department
heads
here.
So
if
you
ask
a
specific
question,
we've
got
the
right
folks
in
the
room.
I
want
to,
of
course,
recognize
our
sheriff
Donna
Tompkins
who's
here
and
our
chief
of
police
Rick
Boren
who's
with
members
of
his
command
staff.
A
So
if
anybody
has
questions
related
to
public
safety,
we
will
be
able
to
answer
those
as
well
again
welcome
I'll
throw
out
just
a
couple
of
things.
We've
just
had
the
mayor's
state
of
the
city
about
a
month
ago
and
in
order
to
do
that,
I
sort
of
pulled
together
milestones
things
that
we've
accomplished
this
city
is
a
data-driven
City.
We
keep
all
sorts
of
numbers
statistics.
A
We
measure
our
progress.
We
measure
our
shortfalls,
see
how
we
can
do
things
better
and
so
that
let
the
state
of
the
cities
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
quantify
whether
there's
been
progress
or
maybe
a
step
backwards.
So
what
you
have
in
your
hands?
Two
things:
one
a
fold
out
of
just
a
summary
of
some
of
the
particular
x'
that
we
get
a
lot
of
questions
about
some
of
the
milestones
and
things
we
achieve
throughout
the
year.
So
do
take
a
look
at
that.
A
If
you
have
any
specific
questions,
I
will
tell
you
some
of
those
charts
just
simply
in
order
to
fit
on
on
the
sheet.
We
had
to
kind
of
condense
a
little
bit,
but
if
you
go
to
Columbus
GA
org,
you
will
find
that
link
and
you
will
be
able
to
scroll
to
the
bottom
and
there's
much
more
detailed
graphs
with
a
bunch
of
columns
a
bunch.
More
numbers-
and
so
you
will
be
able
to
see
that
we
also
have
a
sheet
a
double-sided
sheet
related
to
statistics,
crime,
statistics
and
I
wanted
to
give
those
to.
A
A
I
don't
want
to
bore
people
with
things
they
don't
want
to
talk
about,
but
if
you
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
our
technology
or
capabilities,
how
we
track
crime
and
know,
what's
going
on
I
think
you
would
be
very
impressed,
and-
and
so,
if
somebody
like
to
ask
about
that-
we
certainly
have
more
information
before
I.
Forget
and
I.
Usually
do
this
right
off
the
bat
so
I
want
to
apologize.
A
I
want
to
recognize
PMB
broadcasting,
we
are
being
broadcast,
live
I'm,
Boomer,
102.5
I
want
to
thank
you
all
on
boomer
for
your
interest
and
getting
this
out
to
the
public.
Not
everybody
can
be
here,
obviously,
but
some
of
them
may
be
working
the
evening
shift.
They
do
have
radios
and
can
listen
at
work.
So
thank
you
for
helping
us
get
that
out.
I
mentioned
a
few
other
things
real,
quick.
We
are
in
the
process
of
paying
together
our
budget.
We've
made
a
whole
lot
of
progress
saved
our
citizens,
millions
of
dollars.
A
Again,
we
can
talk
more
specifically
about
that.
If
people
are
interested
in
the
finance,
you
know
what's
going
right.
What,
when
adjustments?
Have
you
made
that
save
me
millions
of
dollars,
I
like
to
hear
more
about
it,
and
what
more
do
you
think
needs
to
be
done?
What's
the
next
challenge
that
we
need
to
tackle
related
to
that,
we
also
have
been
meeting
for
some
time
about
what
to
do
about
our
government
center
because
it's
aged,
it's
in
frankly,
poor
condition.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
safety
concerns
about
it,
I'm
not
an
alarmist,
but
at
some
point
we
have
to
be
realist
about
it.
We've
come
up
with
three
scenarios.
One
was
suggested
to
council
by
a
commission,
but
that
really
opened
up
the
discussion
process
and
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
you
don't
have
opinions
and
we
also
are
continuing
to
gather
additional
that
sometimes
leads
it's
and
maybe
a
little
different
direction
than
we
thought
with
the
information
we
had
originally.
A
So
we
continue
to
discuss
the
opportunities,
the
options
and
would
love
to
hear
from
you
your
thoughts
about
that.
It
has
a
hefty
price
tag
because
we're
talking,
you
know,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
square
feet
and
that
costs
a
lot.
So
we
just
have
to
decide
what
we
want
is
a
city
but
I,
but
staying
where
we
are
presently
is
just
not
going
to
be
an
option.
It
already
offers
some
challenges
that
are
frankly
alarming.
A
Concerning
so,
and
we
can
talk
more
about
that,
I
know
being
that
we
are
in
the
historic
district
area.
There
may
be
some
questions
about
uptown
things
that
are
going
on
opportunities.
There's
been
some
proposals
about
open
container
type
issues
that
have
been
in
the
median
I
know.
We've
got
the
right
people
here
to
answer
those
kinds
of
questions.
We
all
hope.
Also
have
had
some
discussion
in
the
media
recently
about
the
tank
farm.
A
That's
on
the
river
that
was
in
the
paper
today,
and
so
if
people
would
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
we
certainly
can
share
information
related
to
that.
So
I
was
through
those
few
things
out.
I
will
say
generally
this
city
I
know
you
can
feel
it
is
so
vibrant
we've
come
so
far
in
you
know,
recent
years,
particularly
and
now
that
we're
on
the
other
side
of
this
recession,
I
would
say
that
really
the
world
is
our
oyster.
Frankly,
Columbus
Georgia,
we
have
gotten
a
lot
of
things
straight.
A
We've
got
a
lot
of
things
in
order
and
we're
ready
ready
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
that
are
coming
our
way.
The
future
is
bright
for
Columbus,
Georgia
and
I'll.
Leave
you
with
that
thought
as
I
turn
it
over
the
city
manager
to
make
a
few
quick
comments
and
then
we're
going
to
get
to
let.
C
Me
just
take
just
a
couple
of
minutes
to
welcome
you
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
your
city
manager
and
be
a
part
of
the
growth
and
development
of
the
city,
and
let
me
just
say
right
off
that,
because
someone
told
me
a
few
days
ago
that
I
work
for
them
and
I
want
you
to
know.
I
work
for
you,
I
work
for
you,
the
citizens
of
Columbus,
and
the
mayor
mentioned
that
we
have
come
a
long
way
in
recent
years
and
I'll
just
mention
a
couple
of
thoughts
that
come
to
man.
C
We
are
a
vibrant
city
with
great
things
going
on
throughout
our
city
and
all
sectors
of
our
city.
One
of
the
deputy
city
managers
gave
transportation
update
at
the
last
City
Council
meeting
and
what
she
presented
to
you,
the
citizens
and
to
our
elected
officials,
is
that
we
have
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
of
road
projects.
C
Transportation
projects
going
on
across
this
city,
whether
it's
the
Winton
Road
streetscape,
whether
it's
the
Martin
Luther
King,
jr.,
streetscape,
whether
it's
the
forbidden
roll
streets,
caves,
whether
it's
a
roundabout
on
at
Brennan,
casita
and
flipping
road,
or
a
roundabout
abed,
River,
Road
and
Bradley.
Thank
you,
but
we've
got
just
great
transportation
projects
going
on
right
now:
interchange
at
casita
and
185,
a
diverging
diamond
interchange
at
Buena,
Vista,
Road
and
185,
whether
it's
the
bridge
across
the
railroad
tracks
there
Martin
Luther,
King
it
goes
on
and
on
and
on.
C
We
are
widening
forest
road,
all
the
way
out
to
Chicago
place
bridges.
We've
got
just
work
going
on
all
over
the
city
in
every
aspect.
I
am
proud
of
the
60
miles
of
walking
biking
jogging
trails
that
we're
connecting
here
in
our
city,
we're
doing
the
final
connection
at
City
mill
and
at
the
mill
through
the
Chiefs
plans
to
TIA.
C
That
was
a
past
with
Metra
we've
expanded
our
transportation.
It
took
until
11:30
at
night
we've
added
routes,
we've
added
drivers.
We
received
we're
receiving
twenty
two
point:
four
million
dollars
to
expand
public
transit,
and
so
great
things
in
terms
of
quality
of
life
are
going
on
throughout
our
city.
That
I'm
excited
about
I'm
excited
about.
What's
going
on
in
Uptown
I'm
excited
about?
A
A
D
I'm
really
proud
of
Columbus
and
I
think
you
had
a
lot
do
it
but
I'm
concerned.
Thank
you
for
the
rails
trails
we
really
enjoyed
it.
Moana
can
I
think,
but
I
really
want
to
talk
to
you
about
I'm
interested
in
the
Train.
You
know
from
here
to
Atlanta
yeah
I'm,
sorry
about
that
and
also
concerned
about
the
area,
no
theatre
section
of
all
327.
A
Let
me
know
we
have
done
a
passenger
rail
feasibility
study
from
Atlanta
our
from
Columbus
to
Atlanta,
connecting
our
two
airports,
and
the
reason
why
that
is
so
exciting
is
when
Columbus
is
actually
more
viable
than
the
most
any
city
in
the
United
States.
Frankly
for
an
intercity
connection
by
high-speed
passenger
rail
and
here's.
Why?
First
of
all?
Because
it's
relative
a
relatively
ruled
between
Columbus
and
Atlanta?
A
Secondly,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
right-of-way
that
is
already
owned
by
the
city
that
runs
along
or
in
between
the
lanes
of
185
and
85
all
the
way
to
the
airport,
because
the
airport
is
on
the
south
side
of
the
city.
That
means
that
there's
very
little
land
acquisition,
and
that
means
that
the
cost
of
putting
in
a
high
speed
passenger
rail
is
comparatively
low.
A
When
you
start
looking
at
some
of
these
other
cities
and
see
the
gazillions
of
dollars,
it's
going
to
be
expensive,
but
we
look
at
per
mile
transportation
per
person
per
mile
transportation.
It's
actually
quite
feasible
as
compared
to
high-speed
passenger
rail.
The
other
reason,
it's
very
exciting,
is
we're
one
of
the
few
proposed
projects.
That's
not
not
suggesting
that
we
be
on
train
tracks
for
near
train
tracks
and
the
reason
why
that's
a
problem
in
other
areas
is
because
the
railroads
don't
want
passenger
rail
anywhere
near
them.
They
make
their
money
off
of
Freight.
A
They
make
their
money
off
of
Freight
traveling
on
time
and
a
and
passenger
rail
slows
that
down,
because
one
train
has
to
get
off
to
let
the
other
train
go
by.
There's
more
safety
issues
related
to
passenger
rail,
obviously,
and
anytime,
you've
got
freight
and
passenger
rail
in
conflict.
It's
a
whole
nother
circumstance
for
the
for
the
train
companies
to
worry
about.
A
So
these
rail
companies,
the
diesel,
rail,
really
disfavor
passenger
rail
and
they
usually
try
to
use
all
of
their
political
might
and
their
lobbying
influence
to
crush
any
suggestion
of
high-speed
passenger
rail
because
it
interferes
with
what
they're
doing,
but
in
our
case
since
we're
nowhere
near
them,
they've
actually
written
as
letters
of
support,
they're
very
happy
for
us
to
be
where
we
are
suggesting
to
be
and
to
be
leaving
them
alone
and
they're
all
otherwise.
For
high-speed
passenger
rail.
A
They
think
it's
a
good
idea,
but
let
me
suggest
something
that
few
people
have
really
appreciated
and
in
fact,
have
an
erroneous
perception
about
this
proposal
and
that
is
you'll
run
into
people.
You
think,
oh,
it's
going
to
hurt
our
Airport
we're
already
struggling
and
only
have
one
airline.
What's
going
to
happen
to
our
poor
Airport,
everybody
will
take
high-speed
passenger
rail.
No,
that's
actually
exactly
the
opposite.
Our
Airport
is
one
of
the
biggest
proponents
for
this
high-speed
passenger
rail
line
because
it
would
make
us
the
second
does.
The
second
southeastern
destination.
A
Hartsfield
Hartsfield
has
now
gotten
itself
landlocked.
Frankly,
it
can't
it's
surrounded
by
285
and
and
the
the
85-75
interchange
there
and
so
the
connector,
and
so
they
really
are
very
limited
with
what
they
can
do
and
I
don't
think
we'll
be
able
to
put
in
another
runway
or
any
more
gates.
And
so,
if
Columbus
was
to
have
high-speed
passenger
rail
just
60
minutes
away
and
that's
with
one
stop
in
Newnan,
then
we
would
actually
come
become
the
low
cost
carrier
hub
for
the
southeastern
United
States.
A
So
they
could
be
able
to
free
up
almost
12
gates
in
Atlanta
by
bringing
that
low-cost
carrier
hub
here
to
Columbus.
And
the
interesting
thing
is
our
airport
right
now
as
its
presently
designed
and
existing
its
present
infrastructure
can
handle
five
carriers
and
we've
got
one.
So
it's
a
very
exciting
proposition
airlines
like
JetBlue
Norwegian,
Air
other
low-cost
carriers
that
you
could
think
of
would
be
landing
here
in
Columbus.
It
would
mean
thousands
of
jobs,
thousands
of
jobs
for
Columbus.
It
also
means
you
could
live
in
Columbus
and
work
in
Atlanta.
A
You
could
live
in
Atlanta
and
work
in
Columbus.
It
would
make
us
a
bedroom
community
of
each
other
without
all
the
horrible
stuff
that
comes
with
being
a
bedroom
community
that
traffic
the
congestion.
It
frankly
would
relieve
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
problems
that
they
have
in
Atlanta,
so
there's
more
to
say
about
it,
but
I
won't
enlist,
because
I
could
take
the
whole
time
talking.
It's
obviously
a
very
exciting
proposition,
but
it
would
cost
I
think
it's
the
exact
amount.
It's
40
42
dollars,
I!
A
Think
it's
$41.50
one-way,
which
is
about
the
price
of
a
groom
ticket.
So
it's
very
competitive
with
groom.
You
would
be
talking
again
high
speed
speeds
up
to
212
miles
an
hour.
It
would
take
60
minutes
from
Columbus
to
Atlanta,
because
there'd
be
one
stop
in
Newnan.
Of
course
you
have
to
slow
down
to
stop
and
then
wait
a
few
minutes
and
then
rev
backup.
Obviously,
but
there
are
some
curves
where
you
have
to
slow
down,
but
60
minutes
is
pretty
good.
A
The
fascinating
thing
really
exciting
thing
is
noon
and
holy
supports
this,
because
it
makes
it
about
gosh.
I
can't
remember
now,
if
it's
15
or
17
minutes,
but,
let's
just
say,
17
minutes
from
noon
in
to
downtown
Atlanta
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
change
of
quality
of
life
for
them,
because
their
folks
are
stuck
in
traffic.
A
For
you
know
a
long
period
of
time
in
the
morning
in
the
afternoon,
so
it's
very
exciting
we're
waiting
for
the
state
of
Georgia,
frankly
to
sort
of
catch
up
with
us,
because
for
many
years
people
have
had
frankly
a
misimpression
about
high-speed
passenger
rail.
They
think
of
it
as
Amtrak
the
old
Amtrak
model
that
has
worked
successfully
in
the
Northeast
but
has
struggled
everywhere
else.
I
would
say.
Importantly
the
proposal
and
feasibility.
We
did
showed
our
high-speed
passenger
rail
to
Atlanta
being
profitable
in
the
first
year
and
at
one
point
to
profitability
ratio.
A
The
reason
why
that's
important
is
because,
with
a
1.2
profitability
ratio,
you
can
service
debt,
so
you
can
put
out
bonds
and
pay
investors
with
your
profits.
You
see.
So
that
means
you
don't
have
to
have
subsidies
coming
from
the
government.
There
are
rail
lines,
high-speed
rail
lines
that
are
being
wholly
built
by
the
private
sector.
Like
all
aboard
Florida
from
Miami
to
Orlando
so
again,
I
could
go
on,
but
that's
enough
about
that.
If
other
people
had
additional
questions,
I'm
happy
to
to
elaborate,
but
it's
very
exciting.
A
We
have
laid
the
groundwork
we
have
built.
The
relationships
we've
been
to
visit
the
federal
rail
administration
in
Washington
DC.
You
know
the
federal
highway
administration
they
know
about
us
and,
as
frankly,
the
federal
government
state
government
catches
up
to
Columbus
Georgia
will
be
at
the
top
of
the
list.
So
we
look
for
every
opportunity
to
push
that
because
it
would
be
transformative
to
Columbus
Georgia,
and
yet
it
would
allow
us
to
keep
our
community
as
it
is
now.
B
A
B
B
The
developers
who
actually
control
that
property
now
have
have
named
it
mid,
Midland
Commons
as
their
project
name
for
it.
They
are
looking
at
primarily
Morris
shopping
center
conflict,
but
there's
also
some
some
interest
in
housing
out
there.
Some
office
shoots
potentially
things
of
that
nature.
We
are
encouraging
that
we
have
been
meeting
with
them
off
and
on
for
about
the
last
six
to
eight
months.
Now,
with
that,
we
are
encouraging
them
to
look
at
one
of
our
zoning
classifications.
B
We
should
call
it
plan
urban
excuse
me
you,
so
this
plan
makes
you
urban
development
area
itself
involved
with
that,
where
they
they
actually
have
come
in
really
planned
that
area
out
and
lay
it
out
for
us
or
anything
else.
The
real
concern
we've
had
with
them
and
we've
shared
this
on
numerous
occasions,
is
a
traffic
that
may
be
generated
from
that
site
and
how
they're
going
to
how
they're
going
to
handle
it
and
how
they're
going
to
deal
with
it.
B
But
we
just
know
that
we
are
working
on
on
that
project
right
now,
trying
to
make
best
interest
for
both
parties
with
the
city
and
for
the
developers
as
well
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
do
any
more
damage
out
there.
If
we,
we
know
the
the
psu
of
traffic,
we
have
out
there
that
particular
area.
B
Now
you
should
know
that
just
just
just
so
everybody
knows
that
is
a
Traulsen
spot
for
us
right
there
at
beaver,
run
and
kitten
lake
in
Flat
Rock
those
areas
we
haven't
worked
with
Georgia
Department
transportation
to
synchronize
with
lights,
a
little
bit
better.
Try
it
seemed
to
be
flowing
somewhat
was
smoother,
but
it's
still
on
our
radar
every
day
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
intensify
that
problem,
so
that
project
is
going
to
be
coming
for
here
at
hope.
In
very
short
time,.
D
A
B
He's
asking
about
the
traffic
to
might
say
about
the
traffic
is
terrific
out
there
and
it
really
is.
Like
I
said:
we've
been
working
with
G
dot,
though,
to
help
alleviate
that
they've
actually
come
in
and
install
some
new
software
and
our
windows
closed
cabinets
either
for
the
low
traffic
signals
where
they
can
actually
adjust
that
traffic
on
an
hourly
basis.
Now
I'm
still
having
actually
come
out
on
site
and
make
that
make
notes,
adjustments,
so
that's
helped
well
there.
B
They
are
monitoring
that-
or
at
least
we
hope
they
are
monitoring
that,
and
eventually
our
intentions
really
take
that
whole
system
crossing
the
entire
city
itself.
But
right
now
we're
really
trying
this
out
and
see
it
and,
like
I,
said
what
I
can
see
when
I've
heard
traffic
is
moving
a
little
bit
easier,
a
little
bit
quicker
out
there
than
it
was
say
six
months
to
a
year
ago
and.
A
I
can't
say,
sir,
that,
as
the
developer
gets
more
particular
specifications
related
to
what
it
is,
they
propose
to
do.
As
Rick
said
it
will
go
through
our
process.
There'll
be
an
opportunity
for
public
input,
and
so
you'll
have
the
opportunity
to
appeal
to
your
councilors
to
hear,
if
you'd
like
to
to
speak
out
about
whether
you're
for
it
against
it
or
would
like
some
adjustment
to
it.
So
just
keep
your
eye
open
for
notices
in
the
paper
and
things
of
that
nature.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and-
and
you
asked
to
about
and
whoever's
next
y'all
get
ready
to
go,
but
you
asked
to
about
or
mentioned
the
rails-to-trails
and
yes,
we,
you
probably
have
been
seeing
all
the
tremendous
trail
work
down
here,
but
also
throughout
the
city.
We
will
have
sixty
miles
of
connected
dedicated
bike
trails
and
pedestrian
trails
in
the
city
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
perhaps
by
the
this
year,
but
certainly
by
the
end
of
next
year,
and
that
is
a
great
feat.
A
We
need
to
thank
some
of
our
private
partners
who
have
invested
in
that
who,
frankly
had
a
vision
of
how
it
might
be
done
and
be
done
quickly.
That's
the
community
foundation,
betsy
covington
ken
Henson,
a
lot
of
folks
thought
outside
the
box
of
how
the
city
could
partner
with
other
entities
in
the
private
sector
to
move
quickly,
move
less
expensively
and
get
our
citizens
a
very
high-quality
amenity.
It's
actually
going
to
be
a
separate
transportation
grid.
You
know
there
will
be
a
day
and
I
know
for
all
the
people
who
are
not
Millennials.
A
They
have
they
can't
fathom
this,
but
there
will
be
a
day
when
the
Millennials,
who
don't
care
many
of
them,
don't
care
to
own
cars.
They
can
get
around
on
bikes
just
like
they
do
in
some
of
the
European
cities.
They
will
have
that
option,
particularly
if
they
live
closer
in
town.
So
thank
you
for
recognizing
the
investment
that's
been
made
in
that
all
right.
Yes,
sir,
if
you
would
Michael
just
move
that
microphone
there,
because
we're
being
broadcast-
and
it
won't
pick
up
your
voice
without
it
there.
You.
E
A
You
good
thank
you
so
much
for
those
questions
and
Pat
I'm
going
to
let
you
pick
up
any
details
or
correct
anything.
I
say
I'll.
Give
you
a
30,000
foot
response.
First,
it's
actually
been
tremendous.
It's
a
little
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Maybe
Pat
can
give
us
the
specifics
of
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
a
budget
avoidance,
because
we
were
going
to
have
to
start
to
occur
at
least
that
much
to
maintain.
In
addition,
what
we
always
were
I
will
tell
you.
A
We
were
very
much
behind
the
eight
ball
in
being
able
to
fund
two
day
a
week
household
pickup.
Now
don't
forget.
At
that
time
we
were
going
by
your
house
five
times
two
times
per
household
pickup.
We
have,
of
course,
recycling.
We
picked
up
your
once
a
week.
We
picked
up
your
natural
yard
waste
and
then
we
would
go
by
for
what
we
call
white
pick
a
white
goods,
and
that
would
be
like
your
old
water
heater.
The
washing
machine
that
broke
down
is
no
good
to
anybody.
We
would
come
by
and
pick
that
up.
A
So
really
you
were
getting
five
services
a
week,
extraordinary
level
of
service
I,
don't
know
that
that
level
of
service
was
being
offered
by
anyone,
but
that
twice
the
twice
a
week.
Household
pickup
was
only
being
offered
by
two
other
jurisdictions
in
the
state
of
Georgia
and
they
were
charging
in
the
neighborhood
of
thirty
six
thirty
eight
dollars
a
month
and
they
were
limiting
how
many
cans
you
could
put
out.
So
if
you
wanted
to
put
out,
you
could
put
out
two
cans
for
36
or
38
dollars
a
month.
A
That
is
one
thing,
and
so
if
there
was
some
budget
avoidance,
we
also
increased
recycling,
I
think
it
says
237
percent
and
added
years
to
our
our
garbage
dump
but
which
Pat's
going
to
tell
you
about,
and
that
sir,
is
saving
us.
It's
it's
delay
millions
of
dollars
in
costs
we
have
so
Pat.
Won't
you
tell
us
a
little.
F
Bit
about
it,
I'd
love
to
talk
about
the
landfill
seven
or
eight
years
ago
we
were
looking
at
a
life
expectancy
of
twenty
seven
years
since
then,
with
recycling
diverting
some
of
that
material
out
of
the
landfill
and
with
operational
changes
we've
made
to
increase
compaction
and
to
handle
it
better.
We
have
now
got
a
life
expectancy
of
thirty
seven
and
a
half
years.
F
So,
rather
than
going
down
seven
years,
we've
gone
up
to
thirty
thirty
seven
and
a
half
thirty
eight
years,
and
we
are
looking
at
other
ways
to
expand,
extend
that
even
more
that's
for
Pine
Grove
landfill
for
the
municipal,
solid
waste
area,
in
our
other
landfill,
of
course,
is
on
River
Road
at
Granite
Bluff,
and
that's
for
our
green
waste.
Trees.
F
Grass
leaves
what
have
you
and
that
has
some
future
life
in
it.
If
we,
if
we
need
it,
we'll
take
some
construction,
but
we
several
years
ago,
purchased
a
grinder
and
we
have
been
grinding,
the
material
and
the
the
tree
limbs
and
bushes,
and
all
of
that
coming
in
and
we
have
been
running
a
composting
program.
We
have
also
then
been
having
a
lot
of
the
ground
material
being
hauled
off
not
paying
for
it,
but
actually
exchanging
services
to
help
us
reduce
all
of
those
trees
and
what-have-you.
So
we're
looking
very
good
in
that
arena.
F
We're
looking
in
the
future
next
couple
of
years
to
moving
the
composting
out
to
Pine
Grove,
because
we'll
have
more
acreage
and
more
area.
So
we
can
compost
even
more
that
that
composting
material
can
be
used,
then
for
cover
on
the
landfill
at
Pine
Grove,
which
will
cut
down
on
us
having
to
acquire
dirt
in
other
material,
and
we
hope
to
get
to
divert
most
of
that
green
material
and
not
have
to
do
any
land
filling
of
green
material.
So
both
of
those
are
going
extremely
well
and
we've
got
a
very
bright
future.
A
A
Financially
and
frankly,
we
were
having
a
lot
of
trouble
even
sustaining
it
day
to
day
I
mean
there
were
times
in
which
the
rate
and
the
rate
we
were
charging
was
not
enough
to
buy
the
trucks
we
needed
to
buy,
and
so
we
would
get
to
work
and
not
be
able
to
feel
the
trucks
we
needed
to
provide
to
day
a
week
service
and
not
everybody
was
being
picked
up
and
it
was
just
a
mess
and
it
was
only
going
to
get
worse.
I
want
to
recognize
for
those
who
are
on
the
radio.
A
E
A
We
are
so
appreciative
to
have
the
Boy
Scouts
here,
they're,
so
naturally
interested
in
civics,
our
future
elected
officials,
our
future
community
leaders
and
you'd
be
surprised.
Maybe
you
wouldn't
be
surprised
how
many
folks,
even
adults,
know
very
very
little
about
government
and
civics
and
how
the
community
we
function,
and
so
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
and
working
with
the
Boy
Scouts
to
shed
a
little
light
in
a
fairly
young
age
of
how
this
community
works.
It's
so
important.
So
thank
you.
What
else
don't
be
shy?
Yes,
ma'am.
Can
you
move
to
this
microphone?
G
A
A
Would
it
be
on
public
works
page?
It
would
be
okay
and
also
you
can
dial
I
hope.
Everybody
knows
you
can
dial
3
1
1
from
your
hard
line
or
you
can
dial
6
5
3
4000.
Thank
you,
six,
five,
three
four
thousand
and
and
ask
any
such
question
or
report
an
issue
any
time.
So
thank
you.
Thank
You,
Pat,
all
right,
but
I'll
sue.
You!
Yes,.
H
Hello,
my
name
is
Susan
I
know
we
have
a
problem
with
violence,
murders
here
in
Columbus
and
as
it
seems
to
be
part
of
this
whole
opioid
crisis
across
the
country.
There's
not
that
much.
That
Columbus
itself
can
do
to
stop
the
influx
of
opioids,
because
you
just
can't
put
up
guards
at
the
border
to
Muscogee
County.
But
the
motivation
for
a
lot
of
people
to
use
drugs
is
hopelessness.
H
A
A
It's
just
not
that
a
deal.
You
know
somebody
with
all
the
opportunities
in
the
world
and
all
the
comfort
of
the
world
is
going
to
think
twice
about
anything.
That's
going
to
forfeit
that
lifestyle
and
land
them
in
jail.
But
when
someone
else
is
looking
at
a
pretty
cold,
you
know
love,
let's
know,
family
structure.
A
You
know
no,
no,
no
neighborhood,
structural
support
system.
The
cost-benefit
analysis
is
a
lot
different.
If
we
want
to
help
our
police
officers,
our
law
enforcement
agencies,
we
need
to
be
investing
in
the
types
of
things
you're
talking
about
and
we
have
tremendous
partners
with
Columbus
tech,
Clemmie,
State
University,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
who
now
has
changed
from
the
old
model
of
only
caring
about
you
know
from
decades
ago,
caring
about
thanks
and
finance
companies
to
caring
about
what
our
poverty
rate
is
because
they
understand
that
is
a
drag
on
economic
development.
A
It's
a
drag
on
our
workforce
capability
here
and
so
they've
really
changed
their
focus
for
our
development
authority
and
our
Chamber
of
Commerce
has
as
a
primary
objective
to
help
us
reduce
poverty.
Of
course,
our
school
system
so
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
can
talk
to
you
about
any
number
of
afterschool
programs,
crime
prevention,
programs
that
cater
to
middle
school
students,
particularly
partnerships
with
our
school
district
and
our
Parks
and
Rec.
Of
course,
we
investments
in
Parks
and
Rec
is
not
just
you
know
for
fun.
A
It's
actually
for
productive,
constructive
activities
for
kids
to
channel
their
natural
energies
into
things
and
activities
that
are
not
dangerous
for
them
either
physically
or
dangerous
for
them
and
their
futures,
and
so
we
do
a
whole
lot.
Mentoring,
programs,
there's
so
many
cooperative
nonprofit
organizations
that
we
work
with
literacy
programs.
We
fund
some
of
them
out
of
our
crime
prevention,
office,
Seth,
Brown
I,
think
is
here
and
can
speak
about
some
of
those.
A
If
you
were
interested
so
I
want
everyone
to
know
that
when
we
talk
about
all
these
different
things
that
people
people
sometimes
think
well,
why
is
the
city
involved
in
that
effort
in
an
after-school
program?
Why
is
the
city
involved
in
handing
out
these
crime
prevention
grants
that
have
to
do
with
middle
schoolers
that
all
those
dots
connect
and
we're
trying
to
do
our
part
to
create
vibrant,
prosperous
communities
and
hope
and
a
connectedness?
A
Because
the
more
connected
you
are,
the
less
likely
you
are
to
engage
in
risky
behavior
the
picture
life
in
your
future
at
risk.
Now,
for
the
police
officer
aspect,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
chief
Boren
and
certainly
if
shares
Tompkins
was,
would
like
to
speak
to
it
I'd
like
for
her
to
as
well.
You
know
we
are
in
the
dense
urban
community.
This
is
not,
nor
has
it
ever
been.
Maybe
read:
okay
and
sometimes
people's
memories
grow
a
little
foggy
with
the
romance
of
the
past,
but
we've
struggled
as
a
city.
A
Certainly
other
sees
like
us
struggle
with
issues.
One
thing
that
I'm
hopeful
about
and
as
you
well
know,
anybody
here
well
knows
a
lot
of
times:
I'm
sighs,
because
I
state,
the
bald-faced
fact
that
our
crime
has
decreased
39
percent.
Since
we
invested
in
the
Oh
lost
a
lot
of
people
say:
we've
had
more
murders,
and
that
is
true.
We
had
more
murders
this
past
year
than
we
had
had
since
we've
been
keeping
statistics
and
the
way
that
we've
been
keeping
statistics,
but
we've
had
so
many
less
where
it
lows.
A
As
you
can
see,
on
those
charts
25
year
lows,
34
year
lows:
28
year
lows
on
15
year,
lows
in
auto
theft,
larceny
burglaries
even
aggravated
assault,
we're
having
you
know
much
improvement,
so
those
things
are
going
down
and
I
would
just
say
that
that
is
good
progress.
We
need
to
keep
doing
the
things
that
are
allowing
us
to
make
that
kind
of
ground
up.
A
Is
that
I
truly
believe
we're
creating
less
criminals?
I
think
the
people
who
are
doing
those
advanced,
violent
crimes
today
are
people
who
have
been
engaged
in
criminal
activity,
since
they
were
13,
14,
15
years
old
and
when
they
were
13
14
15
years
old,
they
were
committing
larceny
and
burglaries,
and
that's
why
in
2008
2009
our
numbers
were
off.
The
charts,
I
mean
really.
We
had
15,000
500
crime
in
2009.
B
A
This
past
year
we
had
9600
part
one
crimes,
it's
huge
difference
and
that's
mostly
in
those
entry-level
crimes,
I
think
we're
creating
less
criminals.
Less
people
are
taking
chances
and
I
think
it's
because
of
these
programs
because
of
these
training
opportunities
that
we
have
and
and
I
believe
that
is
going
to
mean
less
people
will
be
as
hardened
as
it
takes
to
pull
the
trigger
to
kill
another
human
being.
A
Another
observation,
I
would
say:
is
that
in
Columbus
not
that
this
is
any
solace
to
the
fact
that
we're
losing
a
life,
but
the
murders
tend
to
be
of
two
types:
domestic
which
has
been
so
far
this
year.
I
think
all,
but
one
had
been
domestic.
A
couple
of
years
ago,
we
had
over
50%
of
our
murders
were
domestic
violence.
The
other
type
of
murder
we
tend
to
have
in
Columbus
Georgia
is
criminal
and
criminal
they're
fighting
over
drug
money,
they're
fighting
over
something
but
they're
engaged
in
very
bad
activity.
Together,
that's
not
oh!
A
Well,
then
that
means
I
shouldn't
worry
about
it.
We
can
worry
about
it,
but
it's
not
the
random
type
of
crime.
If
you're
living
a
life
of
good
choices,
safety,
if
you're
not
living
a
life
of
criminal
risk,
any
chances
of
being
a
victim
of
murder,
a
violent
crime
is
extraordinarily
low.
Before
Miss
Georgia
I'd.
A
H
Value
of
those
programs
in
front
of
the
general
public's
eye
Oh,
a
city
is
remarkably
like
a
person
with
diabetes.
If
any
diabetic,
however
vibrant
they
may
seem
to
be
allows
a
diabetic
wound
to
fester
very
trouble
yeah,
any
city
that
allows
a
blighted
area
to
fester
is
also
in
trouble.
Yes,
you
know
I
used
to
live
in
Los
Angeles
and
they
did
marvelous
things
with
their
downtown
and
they
ignored
South
Central.
H
Then,
when
south-central
exploded,
everybody
stood
around
with
a
dumb
look
on
their
face.
Oh
dear,
oh,
my
yeah.
Well,
we
can't
allow
our
blighted
areas
to
fester
and
I
think
one
of
the
ways
you
do
that
not
just
the
diversion
programs,
but
you
have
to
you,
know
for
all
those
people
who
don't
live
in
those
blighted
areas.
You
have
to
make
it
clear
that
these
programs
are
exceedingly
valuable
to
the
community
as
a
whole.
Yes,
Thank.
A
You
chief
ornateness,
he
makes
his
way
the
microphone
mr.
city
manager,
when
they're
done
talking
about
crime.
I'd
like
you
to
talk
about
how
much
we
have
invested
the
millions
of
dollars
have
been
invested
in
South
Columbus
to
build
infrastructure
in
previously
blighted
areas
to
allow
those
communities
to
be
refortified
because
you're
right
we're
not
turning
our
uptown.
It's
wonderful
and
we're
also
excited
and
hoping
those
ripple
effects.
You
know
go
out
and
in
and
spread,
but
we're
not
counting
on
that.
We've
been
investing
in
other
communities
with
Tad's,
and
things
like
that.
I
I
think
that
you
saw
and
I
think
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
copies
of
the
crime
stats
that
we've
had
in
Columbus.
We
went
all
of
it
way
back
to
the
1970s
as
far
as
keeping
statistical
information
and
numbers
and
I've
been
the
chief
now
for
14
years,
and
we
went
back.
I
was
especially
concerned
with
that
period
of
time
and
during
that
time,
in
prior
to
back
to
1980
I
think
you'll
see
on
your
chart.
That's
starting
in
85.
The
numbers
started
decreasing
slightly
and
are
still
decreasing.
I
We
have
a
very
aggressive
police
department.
We
have
aggressive
patrols.
We
aggressively
go
into
some
of
the
blighted
areas
where
we
tend
to
see
some
crimes.
That
fester,
but
always
remember.
The
police
department
cannot
do
anything
about
the
economy.
We
can't
do
anything
about
education.
We
can't
do
anything
about
jobs,
bringing
jobs
here
nor
training.
Here
we
get
the
residual
and
the
residual
is.
I
What
happens
in
this
community
has
a
result
of
some
of
those
things
based
on
that
we're
in
the
schools
we've
been
in
the
schools,
we
start
in
the
great
in
the
local
schools.
We
have
a
5th
grade
program,
a
seventh
grade
program,
an
11th
grade
program
and
the
guys
are
constantly
in
and
out
they're
constantly
concerned
with
the
different
programs,
even
that
the
schools
do
whatever
the
schools
involved
in
when
they
call
us.
I
When
there's
problems,
we'll
go
out
and
put
a
police
car
right
in
front
of
the
schools
and
that's
what
you
probably
have
seen
recently
with
the
school
shootings.
You
know
we
have
to
have
a
presence
even
with
a
police
department.
That's
short,
we're
short
a
number
of
officers
at
this
time,
but
we're
working
on
that.
We
have
an
excellent
crime
prevention
program
and
this
group
and
this
group
of
officers
will
continue
to
work
with
our
young
people
and
our
churches.
We've
been
involved
with
churches
recently
with
active
shooter
scenarios.
I
We've
also
been
with
a
pastor's
police
academy,
training
that
we
have
and
I
think
we
have
a
graduate
right
over
here
of
the
pastors
Academy,
and
it's
been
extremely
successful
when
you,
when
you
know
you're
police
officers
well
enough,
that
you
can
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
one
of
them
on
the
phone
and
say
hi
I
need
some
help.
This
is
what
the
problem
is
and
we
go
out
and
we
work
with
them.
I
think
that
we're
extremely
blessed
in
this
community
for
our
elected
officials,
as
well
as
our
law
enforcement
personnel.
Thank.
J
J
The
Sheriff's
Office
I
believe
is
very
proactive
about
being
with
the
community,
we're
doing,
for
example,
an
autism
event,
Easter
Egg
event
we're
trying
to
build
those
relationships
with
children
so
that
they
feel
that
law
enforcement
is
safe
and
good,
and
so
we're
always
reaching
out
like
that,
but
as
he
was
speaking,
I
was
thinking,
wow,
you're
kind
of
getting
them
on
the
front
end,
but
the
Sheriff's
Office
gets
them
a
lot
on
the
back
end
once
they've
come
into
our
facility.
We
do
so
many
things
in
that
jail
that
we
do
amazing.
J
J
If
your
life's
not
important
and
think
about
your
child,
their
life's
important-
and
you
know,
we
know
that
if
you're
not
spending
time
with
them
and
you're,
not
being
a
parent
to
them,
they're
going
to
grow
up
like
this,
so
so
we're
reaching
out
once
you
kind
of
come
in
contact
with
us
more
and
I'm,
very
proud
of
all
that
we
do
on
the
inside
to
try
to
keep
you
from
coming
back
once
you've
made
that
first
mistake.
Drug.
A
Treatment
I
mean
you
do
they're,
really
the
Sheriff's
Department,
so
many
people
that
they
know
we
have
at
jail.
They
know
we
have
a
police
department,
sure
they
just
think
we're
doing
the
rudimentary
things,
and
it
really
is,
as
you
said,
amazing,
how
much
energy
and
resources
we
put
in
trying
to
help
people
change
their
lives.
Our
drug
courts,
for
instance,
I've
saved
a
lot
of
people's
lives
and
put
a
lot
of
people
veterans,
courts,
veterans.
J
A
Lot
of
people
it's
kind
of
confusing,
we
have
a
jail
which
is,
of
course
under
the
jurisdiction
of
Sheriff
Tompkins,
and
they
house
some
people
who
have
made
some
very
bad
decisions
to
say
the
least
and
some
folks
who
are
simply
waiting
for
trial.
And
then
we
also
have
our
Muscogee
County
Prison,
which
is
part
of
the
state
system.
We've
got
our
two
deputy
wardens
here:
deputy
warden,
King
and
Thomas
there.
A
A
They
give
out
many
times
more
GED,
and
they
also
have
several
hundred
of
the
folks
that
they're
housing
they're
involved
in
various
programs
to
understand
how
to
dress
for
interviews
and
understand
how
to
interact
more
successfully
with
people
once
you
are
out
and
they're
dealing
with
well,
not
quite
as
hardened
criminals,
although
it's
not
a
cakewalk
but
but
folks
who
can
my
point
is
folks
who
could
be
reclaimed
and
returned
to
meaningful
productive
lives?
And
so
thank
you
all
for
what
you
do.
A
Hopefully
that's
a
one-stop
place
and
they
get
on
with
their
lives
after
that,
and
thank
you
for
for
thinking,
ahead
and
being
visionaries
and
programs
that
help
them.
Okay,
we're
going
to
what
certainly
Williams
answer
any
other
questions
about
that.
But
I
wanted
the
city
manager
to
speak
to
Susan's
point
is
the
city
doing
anything
about
blighted
areas
and
if
so,
what.
C
That's
a
big
question
but
Susan
your
observation
about
Los
Angeles
and
now
they
took
care
of
downtown
in
depth
of
light
in
other
places,
and
you
got
to
get
a
bad
outcome
when
you
do
that
and
I'd
like
to
think
that
we
have
not
done
that
and
we
are
not
doing
that.
In
fact,
you
know
when
I
think
about
what
we've
done
in
Uptown.
C
C
You
remember
all
of
you
remember,
look
if
you're
old
enough,
the
Oklahoma
sperm
all
and
what
happened
in
that
area.
High
became
blood
and
grass
growing
through
the
asphalt
just
don't
building
and
look
at
that
area
today.
But
I
was
talking
to
counsel
Woodson
day
before
yesterday
and
and
I
said
to
her
I
baked
this
coming
at
you,
and
we
talked
for
probably
45
minutes.
I
said
your
district
is
one
of
the
more
progressive
districts
of
all
of
the
other
seven
districts.
C
We
had
already
and
then
they're
talking
about
a
sports
place
out
there.
That
will
come.
Perhaps
a
little
later
we
had
already
planned
to
street
scape
for
being
in
row,
we're
a
land,
Brennan
rope,
Cedar
Road
we're
going
to
do
a
roundabout
there
and
we're
going
to
Street
skate
Fort,
Benning
Road
from
there
to
victory
and
then
from
across
to
the
footman
in-game.
It's
going
to
have
a
12-foot,
walking
biking
jogging
trail.
That's
going
just
like,
what's
going
along
Linwood
and
you're,
going
to
have
the
trees
and
so
forth.
C
C
They
pull
down
the
old
beat,
but
what
you
watched
and
b-t-dub
here
right
along
veterans-
and
you
see
the
Columbus-
come
and
see
our
beautiful
structure,
but
they
replaced
some
of
those,
the
old
Chapman
homes
they
redid
the
old
Chapman
homes,
to
make
it
something
beautiful
and
and
so
there's
housing
development.
If
you
go
out
Victor
drap,
where
the
Walmart
is
located,
the
city
bought
the
old
dilapidated
apartment
complex
to
make
the
Walmart
project
viable.
C
We
spent
37
million
dollars
to
put
an
underground
infrastructure
in
there
and
we
street
scape
6th
Avenue.
All
the
way
from
Victor
drive
all
the
way
up
to
15.
Look
at
the
light
fixtures
that
we
have
and
the
new
signal
poles
that
we
have
the
black
decorative
looking
poles
and
things
that
we've
had
there
but
Walmart
believe
it
or
not
was
a
game-changer
for.
C
We
spent
seven
million
dollars
on
the
bright
Avenue
Bridge,
but
the
nightclub
that
the
chief
and
the
mayor
and
others
shut
down
the
old
K
and
W,
where
there
were
several
murders
we
went
in
and
we
acquire
that
nightclub
and
we've
demoed
that,
and
so
we
own
that
property.
The
old
Kendra
pecan
across
the
street.
Someone
just
purchased
that
property
and
they're
constructed
a
Family,
Dollar
I
believe
there,
but
we
own
all
around
Andrews
Road.
C
We
are
12
acres,
we
own
the
old,
fluid
or
building,
for
example,
and
then
we
own
an
additional
12
acres,
and
so
we
are
a
similan
property
prepared
for
future
growth
and
development.
If
you
go
on
up
and
you
go
around,
Brennan
grow
where
I
talked
about
the
roundabout,
it's
going
to
be,
and
we
straight
for
we're
going
to
land
that
we
on
17
acres
there
and
public
works.
C
If
you
go,
if
you
go
down
to
see
the
world
from
10
I'm,
just
telling
you
about
beautification
things
and
things
that
we're
doing
to
deal
with
ye,
you
will
see
trees
planted
along
to
see
the
road,
because
I
called
Public
Works
on
a
regular
basis
and
in
areas
where
there
is
bloody
and
I
asked
them
required
them
to
go
out
and
clean
up.
Caseta
Road
and
plant
trees
and
I.
C
Just
called
you
2
weeks
ago
about
Andrews,
Road
and
I,
see
that
you've
already
planted
some
trees
out
there,
I
called
them
about
Brennan
Road
I
wanted
cars
off
the
right-of-way.
The
taxicabs
out
there
and
I
wanted
them
to
go
out
and
enforce
inspections
are
sent
so
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
I
am
focused.
C
We're
spending
forty
million
dollars
on
that
project,
and
so
we
are
focused
on
the
whole.
The
whole
Benning
drive
mayor.
You
we
go
out
there
take
here,
the
hole
and
it
was
a
drug
prostitution,
chief
and
and
so
we
went
in
and
we
bought
the
hole
and
we
chief,
and
so
we
are
focused
on
where
there's
that
type
of
activity
we
go
in.
We
acquire
property
with
similar
property.
C
Laura
Johnson
is
in
here
and
she's
our
Community
Reinvestment
person,
but
we
are
acquiring
property
assembling
property,
just
like
we've
done
in
the
Liberty
history
and-
and
so
the
effort
is
where
this
play.
We
try
and
go
in
and
deal
with
that
clean
it
up,
prepare
it
for
growth
and
economic
development,
and
so
we've
come
along
and
we've
done
at
an
uptown
when
they
came
to
us
about
the
tad
in
Uptown,
rich
Bishop,
I
said
Richard.
We
need
a
tear
in
the
Liberty,
District
and
I
said.
C
You
know
we'll
work
with
you
on
the
tad
and
uptown.
If
you
will
include
the
Liberty
District,
and
so
it's
two
different
tears,
but
when
it
happened
for
the
Liberty
District
at
sixth
Avenue
Liberty
District
area
uptown
paid
for
it
because
we
felt
like
the
tant
would
be
that
economic
development
to
while
it's
helping
uptown
is
going
to
help
deliver
the
district
to
so
we
are
focused
on
poverty,
we're
focused
on
blight
and,
and
so
those
are
just
some
of
the
things
doing.
C
I
had
the
planning
department
to
calculate
all
of
the
business
investment
in
the
area
and
Rick
I
can't
remember:
I.
Had
you
all
to
calculate
what
has
been
invested
in
the
South
Columbus
area
alone.
Victor
Drive
is
also
an
enterprise.
So
that's
another
economic
development
to
that
we
have
out
there,
but
it
was
I
mean
the
hotel.
C
I
know
you
don't
remember
either,
but
it
was
millions
and
millions
and
millions
of
dollars,
and
you
can't
see
it
all
when
you
just
look
but
but
trust
me,
it's
all
coming
together
and
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
fight
black
we're
going
to
deal
with
it.
We
are
going
to
assemble
property
with
an
acquire
property.
We're
going
to
develop
all
of
the
economic
development
tools
that
we
can
and
we're
going
to
make
them
available
to
those
who
are
interested
in
investing
in
those
areas
and
bringing
those
communities
back.
A
Right
I
just
wanted
to
go
through
that,
because
I
think
sometimes
people
just
do
not
appreciate
the
hundreds
of
difference
of
ways
that
we're
attacking
problems
like
poverty
in
blight.
Of
course,
it
took
us
30,
40
years
to
get
in
the
situation
due
to
you
know,
super
suburban,
the
super
suburbanization
of
Columbus,
like
many
cities,
had
that
caused
the
depopulation,
the
disinvestment
in
those
areas,
and
now
we
have
to
go
back
and
build
markets.
I
mean
the
city
manager
said.
A
That's
a
big
deal
because
Walmart's
everywhere,
let
me
tell
you
what
they
didn't
want
to
go,
because
we
were
asking
them
to
create
a
new
market
there
to
be
the
first
one
and
it
was
essential
that
they
go
because
once
they
start
getting
their
register
receipts
and
you
start
seeing
those
revenues
of
that
store.
That's
a
benchmark
that
other
store
owners
and
other
investors
look
to
to
see
if
their
business
would
be
profitable.
There
we
didn't
have
one.
We
didn't
have
a
national
that
type
of
an
entity.
A
C
You
imagine
me
when
you
said
that
we
were
sitting
in
your
conference
room.
They
had
taken
Walmart
off
the
table
for
that
area.
I
mean
it
was
off
the
table
and
we
said
no,
you
said
we
can't
let
this
happen
and
we
called
in
that's
it
absolutely,
and
we
said
we
got
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
them
understand
that
this
is
a
good
location
and
it's
a
good
deal
and
they
came
to
council
that
Walmart
two
three
weeks
ago,
it's
the
number
one
performing
Walmart
in
the
state
of
joy.
C
A
What
we're
doing
for
blighted
areas
unless
she
wants
to
suck
up
all
the
time?
I'm.
Sorry
she
didn't
know
that
was
a
softball,
but
it
was
but
but
no
it's
it's!
This
community
does,
as
the
sheriff
alluded
to.
We
do
amazing.
That
was
an
incident
an
instance
of
amazing
because
they
kept
telling
us
no
no,
no
and
they
had
made
their
corporate
decision
and
they
had
no
reason
to
want
to
negotiate
with
us.
A
No
reason
to
two
to
one:
a
quote:
unquote:
throw
us
a
bone
and
we
knew
it
would
be
successful
and
we
just
never
say
die
in
Columbus.
We
figure
out
a
way
and
that's
the
great
thing
about
your
community.
So
we
are
thinking
of
all
the
bad
things
that
you
don't
think
we
did
up
to
par.
Remember
that
we
have
pulled
some
rabbits
out
of
the
hat
and
we're
gonna
keep
doing
it
in
our
areas
that
are
particularly
distressed.
Yes,
ma'am.
We
need
to
get
you
a
microphone,
though.
K
K
Businesses
were
closing
and
have
not
been
real,
a
very
place
such
as
the
winn-dixie
and
I
understand,
they're,
all
about
to
close
in
this
area.
We
are
in
these
south
from
Buena
Vista
Road
over.
There
are
very
limited
grocery
stores,
we're
very
limited
and
banks
and
other
facilities
that
the
people
in
those
areas
need,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
city
come
together
and
work
with
the
peoples
in
the
area
and
bring
back
some
of
those
businesses
we've
had
there
were
numerous
banks
out
on
st.
K
Mary's
Road
your
this
road
and
now
the
closest
Bank
you
get
from
st.
Mary's
Road,
it's
going
to
be
over
on
Victor
Drive
I'll
come
to
make
a
road,
so
we
still
need
and
there's
a
lot
of
people,
and
particularly
elderly
people
who
have
difficulty
get
into
some
of
these
businesses
that
they
really
need,
and
we
would
like
to
see
more
emphasis
put
on
bringing
those
businesses
back
into
the
south
side
area
of
Columbus
and.
A
Let
me
say
it's
such
a
good
point
and
actually
I
was
at
a
conference
recently.
They
were
talking
about
this
and
it's
such
an
important
point
was
made
by
and
large
a
lot
of
the
companies
are
talking
about
are
never
coming
back,
not
not
coming
not
coming
back
to
South
Columbus
they're,
not
coming
back
period
because
the
the
world
is
changing
and
the
markets
as
we
knew
them,
are
changing.
Sears,
Kmart,
Toys,
R,
Us
Amazon
is
changing
everything,
and
so
the
world
is
changing
and
we
need
to.
A
We
need
to
understand
that
our
present
and
future
signal
to
success
is
not
dependent
by
measuring
it
to
what
used
to
be
successful
twenty
thirty
four
years
ago
and
and
so
banks
now
you
know
so
much
is
being
done
online.
You
know
it's
funny,
there's
an
age
difference
between
me
and
my
husband
of
twelve
years,
and
he
still
goes
to
the
bay
I
haven't
been
to
the
bank.
In
ten
years.
I
haven't
walked
into
a
bank
to
deposit
a
cheque
or
cash
a
check
in
ten
years.
A
He
goes
to
the
bank
out,
it's
nostalgia
for
him,
I,
don't
know
why
he
just
wants
to
see
everybody
there.
I
guess
I,
don't
know
but
yeah
personally,
so
he
tells
me
he
says
he
has
a
personal
relationship
with
this
teller,
which
I
think
I'm
gonna
just
have
to
go
down
there
and
check
out
frankly,
but
but
in
any
event,
but
but
so
times
are
changing.
I
have
this
gentleman
who
maybe
he's
listening?
He
emails
me
once
a
week
and
says:
Columbus
is
horrible.
Kmart's
are
closing,
Columbus
is
horrible.
A
A
I'm.
Sorry,
you
they
come
to
every
single
one
of
these
and
here's
the
one
they
didn't
come
to
and
they're,
probably
trying
to
speed
here
because
they're
listening
to
it
on
the
radio,
but
but
they
have
think
saw
this
trend
for
some
time
and
what
we
are
seeing
a
ton
of
now
is
entrepreneurialism.
So
instead
of
you
know
another,
what's
that
black/white
market,
you
know
williams-sonoma
type.
A
You
know
right
high-end
stores,
we're
starting
to
see
young
people
open
up
boutique
shops
people
from
here
in
Columbus,
opening
up
unique
places
like
there
used
to
be
in
a
way
it's
interesting.
If
you
go
back
to
the
fifties,
kind
of
when
people
would
open
up
their
own
little
restaurant
or
open
up
their
own
little
store
and
their
family
would
run
it
right.
We
kind
of
think
of
that
as
being
quaint.
That's
come
back
in
a
new
way.
A
It's
going
to
be
people
who
are
renting
booths
and
bringing
unique
items,
and
we
will
get
out
of
our
house
and
away
from
our
computers
and
the
Internet
to
go,
buy
something.
That's
wholly
unique,
that's
special
to
Columbus,
that's
an
experience
that
we
can
have
a
relationship
with
a
person
selling
us
tomatoes
like
we
have
used
to
have
years
ago.
Now
we're
having
again
so
in
a
way
everything
old
is
new
again,
but
the
one
thing
that
appears
not
to
be
new
again
as
these
old,
large
brick
and
mortar
shop
soap.
A
So
I
hear
you
and
there
are
other
businesses.
I
will
tell
you
that
the
one
thing
that
does
seem
to
be
good
about
bricks
and
mortar
restaurants.
People
are
not
getting
tired
of
restaurants.
People
want
to
go
out
and
eat,
and
so,
as
you
see,
this
vibrancy
spreading
throughout
South
Columbus
you're
gonna
get
to
the
tipping
point.
Just
like
you
did
down
here.
We
now
have
27
restaurants
or
bars
within
about
a
four
block
area.
That's
that's
incredible!
Most
of
them
most
all
of
them.
A
The
few
exceptions
are
locally
owned,
their
unique,
more
boutique
light
restaurants,
not
chains,
and
that's
what
you're
going
to
start
seeing
in
the
retail
environment
too.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
question.
I
I,
don't
say
it
as
an
excuse.
If
you
need
banks,
if
you
need
grocery
stores,
I
hear
you,
we've
just
got
to
find
a
new
way
to
deliver
those
services
to
those
areas.
In
today's
world
we
will
not
be
able
to
force
a
Toys
R
Us
to
come
and
open
on
victory,
Drive,
because
they've
seen
their
day
is
done.
A
L
First
name:
Kathy
Kathy.
My
question
is
not
really
odds.
It's
a
situation.
Okay
for
eight
years,
I
wrote
you
and
eight
years
ago
about
my
plight
of
a
fictitious
felony
sodomy
charge
against
me
with
a
16
year
old,
male
and
I'm,
not
able
to
acquire
my
grandson
out
of
the
state
of
Nebraska
because
they
will
not
grant
me
custody
and
I
was
also
four
weeks
from
being
ordained.
Yes,
AME
Church
also
blocked
my
ordination
because
of
it.
Fictitious
felony,
sodomy
charge
and
I
have
asked
you
all.
L
If
you
all
would
help
me,
because
I
see
an
active
addicts
and
ma'am
I
got
addicted
through
the
Medical
Society
I
had
a
morphine
drip
for
three
months.
They
didn't
have
probably
detect.
He
touched
me
prior
to
that
I
was
drunk.
We
are
all
free
and
that's
how
I
started
on
a
twin
three-year
jurisdiction
so,
as
I
have
been
prostates
in
and
out
of
the
prince,
the
judicial
system
in
the
prison,
several
incidents
happened
and
the
officers
with
the
court
system.
They
were
all
very
bad
and
I
asked
you.
A
Now
let
me
just
and
I'm
sorry
to
stop
you
but
you're
right
with
the
fact
that
it's
an
individual
personal
issue,
we're
gonna,
have
to
talk
with
you
privately
about
that,
and
we
also
have.
There
are
some
things
that
other
people
listening
might
be
interested
in.
If
you
have
been
convicted
of
crimes,
you've
served
your
time.
There
are
some
expungement
opportunities,
I
know
it
doesn't
matter
about,
and
surely
we
cannot
help.
That
was
a
court
issue
and
that
apparently
happened
long
ago.
That
was
for
a
judge.
A
No
mayor,
no
police
chief,
no
sheriff,
can
help
right
about
the
the
validity
or
the
justice
that
that
occurred
or
the
injustice
that
occurred
some
time
ago.
But
what
we
can
do
is
take
the
reality
of
the
situation,
assess
it
and
if
there
are
resources
which
can
help
you,
we
can
point
you
in
those
directions.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
were
accused
of
crime,
perhaps
convicted
of
a
crime,
served
time
and
then
got
out,
and
they
may
now
have
everything
back
together
and
want
to
vote
again.
A
They
may
want
to
obviously
get
a
job
all
the
things
that
you
need
to
do
to
have
a
productive
and
full
life,
and
there
are
expungement
opportunities.
There
are
other
such
programs,
and
so
please
know
you
can
call
3-1-1
six
five,
three
four
thousand,
and
we
can
give
you
information
about
that.
If
you're
listening
and
then
for
you
man,
what
we'll
do
if
you'll
have
a
seat,
then
we'll
get
you
the
right.
Folks,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
All
right,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
again.
This
concludes
our.