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A
Thank
you
and
before
we
get
started,
I
would
like
to
ask
those
in
the
audience,
and
also
my
fellow
commissioners,
to
please
I'll
turn
your
cellphone's
off
or
make
sure
that
they
are
silenced.
Since
we
are
recording
this
live,
we
will
first
one
want
to
remind
those
in
the
audience
and
those
watching
on
television
that
this
is
the
first
hearing
of
any
rezoning
tax
change
or
special
exception
requests
that
have
been
brought
before
us
today.
A
We
will
first
hear
the
reading
of
the
staff
report
for
the
case
by
the
planning
staff,
and
then
we
will
ask
the
applicant
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
request.
Will
then
give
the
opportunity
for
anyone
in
the
audience
to
speak
for
or
against
the
request,
and
then
the
commissioners
will
have
any
needed
discussion
in
the
case,
once
the
motion
is
made
and
seconded
by
the
Commission,
a
vote
will
take
place
and
a
recommendation
will
be
rendered.
The
case
will
go
back
to
the
planning
and
Advisory
Commission
back
to
the
planning
department.
A
Excuse
me
for
their
independent
recommendation
and
if
there
is
a
favorable
recommendation
it
is
given,
then
the
case
will
be
forwarded
to
the
City
Council,
with
two
independent
recommendations.
If
the
Planning
Department
makes
a
recommendation
for
denial,
the
applicant
will
have
ten
days
from
the
receipt
of
a
letter
stating
the
denial
to
notify
the
Clerk
of
Council
that
they
are
requesting
to
be
placed
on
the
City
Council's
agenda.
The
City
Council
Columbus
will
hold
a
public
meeting
which
is
called
the
first
reading
and
the
said
council
shall
consider
the
case.
A
They'll
review
pack
and
the
Planning
Department
recommendations
and
they'll
hear
any
discussion
regarding
the
matter
and
then
council
will
make
a
final
decision
at
a
second
public
meeting
called
the
second
reading.
We
do
have
minutes
that
were
sent
out
to
the
commissioners
from
our
prior
July
18th
meeting
commissioners
I'm
hoping
you've
had
some
time
to
take
a
look
at
these
minutes.
We
can
submit
these
as
accepted
unless
any
of
you
have
any
changes
that
needs
to
be
made
anybody
know,
so
we
will
submit
these
as
accepted.
Thank
you
for
those.
A
So
that's
actually
brings
us
to
our
very
first
case
this
morning.
We
only
have
two
on
the
agenda.
The
first
one
is
our
e
ZN
0
6
1
8
1
1
69.
This
is
a
request
to
rezone
40
acres
of
land
located
at
9:05
6
Veterans
Parkway.
The
current
zoning
is
re,
one
which
is
residential
estate.
One.
The
proposed
zoning
is
ro
residential
office.
The
proposed
use
as
a
life
plan
community
Joelle
Womack,
is
the
applicant
and
this
property
is
located
in
council
district,
six
Allen
mr.
Renfro.
If
you'll
read
it's
the
staff
report.
B
Yes,
ma'am
general
land
use
is
inconsistent
for
planning
area.
A
the
current
land
use
designation
is
vacant.
Undeveloped
future
is
single-family.
Is
it
compatible
with
the
existing
unit?
Land
uses?
Yes,
environmental
impacts.
The
property
does
not
lie
within
the
floodway
and
floodplain
area.
A
developer
will
need
an
improved
drainage
plan
prior
to
issuance
of
site
development
permit.
If
a
permit
is
required
cities,
the
property
is
served
by
all
city
services.
No
traffic
impact
the
site
shall
meet
the
codes
and
regulations
of
the
Columbus
consolidated
government
for
commercial
usage.
There
will
be
no
school
impact.
B
The
buffer
requirements.
The
site
shall
include
a
category
C
buffer
along
all
property
lines,
bordered
by
the
RO
zoning
district.
The
three
options
on
a
category
C
are
number
one
20
feet
with
a
certain
amount
of
canopy
trees,
understory
trees,
shrubs
ornamental
grasses
per
over
100
linear
feet
number
to
10
feet
with
a
certain
amount
of
shrubs
ornamental
grasses
per
100,
linear
feet
and
a
wood
fence
or
masonry
wall.
A
number
330
feet:
underserved
natural
buffer.
There
was
no
response
from
Fort
Benning
recommendation
or
the
DRI
recommendation.
B
A
C
Joel
Womack
EMC
engineering
address
3575
Macon
Road
Suite
15.
Like
said
the
the
plan
is
the
planned
living
assistance
right
now:
they're
planning
for
twenty
four
independent
cottages
kind
of
spread
out
throughout
the
forty
acres
and
then
one
large
building
that
will
facilitate
a
hundred
independent
living
apartments
with
102
skilled
nursing
beds,
as
well
as
48
apartments.
The
idea
is
it
to
be
for
a
retirement
facility
to
be
there
independently
and
as
they
progress
in
their
life
to
have
that
full
service
there.
C
D
This
is
a
question
just
for
information.
Is
there?
Okay,
like
with
hospitals,
I,
think
whoever
the
regulatory
agency
is
they?
The
hospital
requires
some
sort
of
certificate
of
need
before
they
can
build
new
new
beds
for
a
hospital?
Do
you
guys?
Is
there
some
sort
of
a
regulatory
agency
that
you
have
to
deal
with
that
establishes
a
or
agrees
with
a
certificate
of
need
or
anything
no.
E
F
B
F
A
G
G
G
248
inch
pipes
with
about
a
42
to
44
foot
run
that
goes
under
our
driveway
common
driveway
for
three
houses
that
live
on
that
property.
My
mother
lives
at
88
66,
which
is
immediately
south,
and
my
brother's
at
88
50,
which
is
immediately
south
of
her
all
share
the
common
driveway
I
got
some
photos
of
capacity
for
that
bottom
area
that
depict
the
capacity
for
the
water.
In
what
concerns
me
is
the
retention
pond
that
they
show
on
the
south
edge
of
the
development,
which
basically
appears
to
be
around
two
and
a
half
acres.
G
The
best
I
can
scale
it.
There
is
no
scale
on
their
rendering,
so
they
just
kind
of
have
to
swag
the
size
of
it,
but
it
looking
at
that
photo
right
there.
It
would
be
to
the
left
of
the
property
lines
approximately
200
foot
north
of
that
location
of
the
creek.
These
photos
were
taken
in
2009,
we've
been
there
since
1988.
G
To
my
recollection,
this
is
the
only
time
the
creek
has
been
out
of
the
bank
on
the
headwall
side
of
the
creek,
so
but
it,
but
it
is
a
pretty
impressive
feed.
This
is
this.
Is
the
headwall
side
and
you
can't
really
see
the
creek
right
there,
because
it's
it's
actually
running
out
and
a
lot
of
times
we
do
have
water
running
in
the
creek
from
those
from
that
low-lying
area,
but
never
running
out.
G
This
is
running.
We
have
a
low
place
on
both
sides
of
the
culverts
to
kind
of
work
as
spillways
that
are
far
away
from
the
culprits
themselves
to
try
to
prevent
washout
and
that's
what
you're
looking
at
there
we're
standing
on
top
of
the
culverts
now
looking
toward
the
houses,
and
this
is
back
looking
into
the
headwall
side.
Looking
up
this
photo
right
here
directly
north
about
200
feet
is
where
they're
depicting
a
retention
pond
coming
to
the
property
line.
My
concern
is:
is
I,
don't
really
know
the
classification
between
retention
or
detention.
G
If
there's
any
difference,
they
depict
it
as
an
actual
detention.
Pond
I'm,
assuming
they'll,
have
to
have
a
spillway
I'm,
assuming
that
it'll
reach
full
capacity
at
some
point
some
event
and
and
have
to
use
that
spillway
I,
don't
know
how
the
water
is
going
to
be
regulated
out
of
that
development,
but
the
property
is
not
developed
mantle
and
that's
what
it's
capable
of
this
Creek
Bank
is
approximately
three
and
a
half
feet
tall,
and
it
usually
runs
with
that
much
water
in
it
on
any
given
day.
G
This
is
looking
from
the
house
at
the
entire
bottom.
You
can
see
the
the
two
little
masonry
walls
on
either
side
of
the
driveway
down
there.
If
you
look
right
at
the
center
of
the
picture,
water
is
running
out
on
this
side
and
on
the
other
side,
which
is
running
off
the
property.
That,
in
this
case,
would
be
to
the
right
about
200
feet
from
those
abutments
down
there
from
those
masonry
walls
down
there.
All
these
photos
are
2009.
This
is
a
more
recent
photo
in
March
of
this
year.
G
This
is
the
the
head
wall
side.
We've
lost
a
few
trees
during
the
years
they
fall
or
whatever
we
have
to
clean
them
out,
but
you
can
see
it's
to
the
top
of
the
two
pipes
and
we
got
approximately
another
18
inch
rise
to
the
masonry
wall
on
that
side
as
well,
and
about
maybe
15
feet
from
the
masonry
wall
to
the
inlets
to
those
pipes
looking
at
that
photo.
G
My
concern
is
these
pipes
will
put
in
30
years
ago
they
were
put
in
by
Alexander
contracting
and
at
the
time
they
described
him.
There's
something
and
I'm
not
familiar
with
this
term
either,
but
they
described
him
as
something
that
would
withstand
anything
except
the
100-year
event
and
that's
with
no
development
and
we're
talking
about
a
significant
amount
of
development
and
I'm,
just
assuming
a
significant
larger
amount
of
water
as
well
associated
with
that
I'm
have
lesser
concerns
about
the
actual
environmental
of
the
Creek.
You
know
will
actually
be
coming
in
it.
G
Things
like
that,
which
brings
me
to
their
sewage
plans
for
the
plan
for
the
actual
development
I'm,
not
sure
how
they're
going
to
plan
to
handle
sewage,
I
can't
get
access
to
that
or
haven't
been
able
to.
As
of
yet
so
I,
don't
know
if
it's
actually
into
the
city
system,
if
it's
like
a
septic
system,
if
it's
a,
if
it
will
require
pumping
station,
is
there
possible
possibilities
for
overflow
in
that
area?
If
it
does
I
have
those
concerns,
because
everything
is
downhill
to
that
point.
G
Well,
this
is
the
exhaust
side,
but
everything
is
downhill
to
the
point
of
the
intake
side
of
that
Creek.
That's
that's
later,
where
you
can
kind
of
see
what
the
creek
bank
looks
like.
This
was
actually
December
of
2015
and
that's
as
high
as
it
got
then,
and
this
was
during
the
fall
with
no
leaves
not
a
lot
to
stop
the
water
and
things
like
that.
Trees,
weren't
growing,
so
that's
a,
but
we
get
a
lot
of
water
in
there.
You
know
we
get
a
lot
of
work
done.
G
G
G
Was
one
other
questions
I'm
concerned
about
the
actual
elevation
of
the
retention
pond
or
the
dam?
What
we'll
actually
be
looking
at
down
there
and
how
that'll
be
landscape,
but
that's
I'm
sure
that's
something
we
can
address
later
during
the
construction
phase.
But
mr.
Renfro
mentioned
that
they
would
have
to
be
an
approved
drainage
plan
before
the
permit
could
be
issued.
And
then
he
qualified
that
by
saying,
if
a
permit
is
required
in
what
situation
would
they
not
have
to
obtain
an
approved
drainage
plan
before
anything
I
mean
is
there
is
there?
G
G
B
G
Not
opposed
to
the
project,
I
mean
I,
think
it's
probably
a
good
fit
for
the
community.
They
certainly
a
lot
of
people
around
there
that
I'm
associated
with
that
seem
to
think
it's
a
good
fit
for
the
community,
but
I
think
it
without
a
doubt
should
have
conditions,
and
that's
my
failing
on
that
this
morning.
All.
A
C
Inland
or
storm
we're
mandated
to
match
the
existing
conditions
that
are
now
in
our
embedded.
So
the
fact
that
you
have
that
much
rock
water
running
on
your
site.
Now
we
will
not
increase
it
one
bit.
We
can't
as
Bluebook
law,
which
the
columbus
you
do
all
the
way
up
to
the
hundred
year
rain
event.
So,
like
you're
saying
the
hundred
year,
the
amount
of
inches
that
fall
per
hour
and
then
a
24-hour
period.
That's
what
kind
of
weather
gauge
the
rain
event
on
that,
so
we
will
be
mandated
to
put
the
detention.
C
If
you
put
my
slide
back
up
there
again
and
on
to
say
the
site
plan
we're
in
the
process
of
surveying
it
now
so
where
we
showed
the
detention
pond.
That
now
is
just
kind
of
eyeballing
where
the
low
area
is
it's.
Typically,
you
put
the
detention
pond
in
the
low
area,
but
we
also
instead
of
making
them
one
big
one.
C
We
may
try
to
put
smaller
ones
in
different
areas
to
catch
the
water
and
slowly
release
it
instead
of
hitting
it
all
that
one
area
too
so
we're
under
the
idea
of
trying
to
topo
it
all
right
now
and
figure
out
where
the
best
little
pockets
are
to
make
sure
that
we
could
capture
it.
That
way,
I
think.
C
But,
but
in
regards
to
the
stormwater,
no,
we
will
not
increase
in
storm
water
leaving
the
site.
Nasa
said
that's
where
we
do
everything
on
the
way:
the
idea
between
the
detention
and
retention
they
don't
want
to
hold
water
in
the
pond.
So
we're
gonna
sit
there
when
the
rainfall
hits
we're
gonna
hold
that
with
rain
water
and
then
slowly
drain
it
out
to
match
the
existing
conditions.
Now
and
then
it'd
be
a
drive
attention,
pollen,
it's
not
wings
because
they
don't
want
to
hold
the
water,
have
the
mosquito
issues
and
things
all
the
time.
C
Okay,
I
mean
in
the
idea
I
mean
like
I
said
everything
was
preliminary,
we're
assuming
about
a
one
and
a
half
to
you
know.
Maybe
a
two
acre
teach
upon
for
the
thing,
but
like
say,
if
we
put
it
in
multiple
areas
and
I,
think
that's
not
one
I
think
the
first
time
I
think
I've
gotten
or
one
here,
they've
already
tweaked
some
stuff,
because
we're
not
we've
slid
down
we're
not
going
to
have
to
excesses.
C
C
G
C
C
Line
is
we
have
50
foot
that
we're
staying
away
from
that?
No
matter
what
so
you
have
an
additional
buffer
on
that
stream.
Where
do
you
say?
That's
us
kind
of
figuring
out
where
that
buffer,
maybe
it
that's
the
area
that
we're
gonna
stay
out
of
the
idea
is
to
have
this
much
landscape
buffer
as
much
landscape
buffer
around
the
property
as
possible,
because
we
wanted
to
feel
like
it's
kind
of
enclosed,
that
we're
not
imposing
on
anybody
along
those
lines
and,
like
I,
said
the
we
slid
it.
C
Can
you
sign
it
down
we'll
just
so.
We
start
the
interest
because
we're
trying
to
as
well
overlook
here's
where
the
idea
was
made
for
little
pockets
in
there
to
the
right
of
the
drive
to
make
sure
that
we
could
reduce
the
size
of
that
detention
pond
down
there.
So
we're
not
having
all
the
water
go
into
one
location,
so
we're
trying
to
capture
it
in
different
little
pockets
and
slowly
release
it.
That
way,
like
I,
said
in
this,
when
we
sled
the
drive
down
as
far
away
from
the
veterans
intersection
as
possible.
C
Just
so,
you
had
more
stacking
more
and
more
time
to
react
to
things
along
those
lines.
We
are
in
Tollett
for
forestry
to
talking
about
maybe
trying
to
thin
out
that
little
sight
distance
area
a
little
bit
there,
just
to
make
sure
that
you
have
plenty
of
sight,
distance,
I'd,
the
intersection
of
a
Pierce,
Chapel
and
veterans,
because
it
is
kind
of
a
sharp
angle
right
there.
It's
not
the
motion
is
very.
C
H
I
C
In
touch
with
Columbus
Ward's
right
now,
they
have
their
budgeted
to
extend
that
main.
That's
feeding
of
that
system!
Now
it's
they've
already
had
it
budgeted
we're
just
saying
total
for
them
now
to
see
if
we
can
make
it
faster
by
helping
out
with
our
parcel
of
land,
but
it
the
close
water
dogs
has
budgeted
to
extend
that
sewer
service
up
there,
but.
A
D
E
C
Much
they'd
like
say
we
were
talking
with
the
forestry
to
see
if
we
couldn't
clear,
maybe
a
little
bit
of
the
underbrush,
not
clear
it
we're
just
kind
of
said
that
you
cleanse
out
through
a
little
bit,
I
mean
we
don't
we
don't
everybody
see
and
through
there,
and
we
want
to
have
that
buffer
to
better,
so
that
the
noise
and
things
on
there's
lines.
You
know
come
of
that,
but
we've
to
see
if
we
couldn't
have
a
little
couple
windows
of
blips,
they
insist
you
can
actually
see
through
there.
E
J
K
J
C
Stevia
you
haven't
seen
anything
because
we're
in
the
little
immature
stages,
everything
we
had
to
design
like
so
we're
just
now
getting
a
survey
I
mean
at
any
point.
You
want
to
kind
of
see
the
idea.
What
we're
like
soon
as
we
submit
to
the
city
is
opener
continuance
we're
not
going
to
hide
in
anything,
but
you
sure
you
told
me
getting
your
own
engineer.
We
could
provide
our
hydraulic
force
and
everything
showing
every
kind
of
runoff
that
we're
doing
well.
A
G
Of
the
reasons
that
I
was
looking
for
an
engineer
to
look
at
these
plans,
is
we
don't
know
what
capacity
we
have
now
right
with
the
with
the
culvert
that
we
have?
Obviously
it's
got
30
years
of,
wear
and
tear
on
you
know
it
had
it
had
a
unformed
concrete
face
wall
on
it,
but
it's
the
it's
deteriorated
as
well.
We've
lost
a
couple
of
trees
there
and
pull
some
of
it
up
and
some
other
things.
So
you
know
we
we
don't
know
what
our
capacity
is.
G
We
don't
know
the
actual
condition
of
the
culprit
itself.
You
know
from
a
professional
standpoint,
so
so
those
are
some
things
that
I
would
love
to
know
that
we
would
be
working
with
a
developer
on
as
far
as
possible
inspections,
how
much
water
is
going
to
come
down
through
there
and
things
like
that.
Didn't
you
yeah.
C
Like
I
said,
we
would
be
matching
or
embedder
and,
of
course,
all
possible
and
I
said
when
I
got
my
cap
rate
I
could
guarantee
that
part
of
it
I
mean
the
other
partials
that
her
feet
and
upstream
from
it,
goes
upon
a
Pierce
Chapel
or
that
cream
I
don't
know
I
mean
that's
a
same
applies
to
them
when
they
develop
their
land,
the
heck.
He
can't
seen
more
than
what
you've
been
seeing
now.
Thank.
A
G
A
H
A
Enjoy
your
set
mr.
Bollinger,
okay,
all
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
right
hand
and
it
is
unanimous,
so
we
will
submit
this
as
a
recommendation
for
approval.
Thank
you
for
coming
forward
with
that.
That
brings
us
to
our
next
case,
which
is
our
e-z
0
7
1
8
1
3
9
7,
and
this
is
a
request
for
a
text
amendment
to
amend
the
text
of
the
unified
development
ordinance,
also
known
as
the
you
do.
In
regards
to
adding
section
four
point:
four
point:
nine
short-term
rentals.
Mr.
Renfro.
Yes,.
B
L
L
Ideally,
the
intent
is
for
the
short-term
rentals
to
be
an
accommodation
for
transient
guests,
either
in
the
primary
structure
any
approved
accessory,
drawing
provided
lodging
for
a
period
of
time
not
to
exceed
30
consecutive
days
so
anytime.
Up
to
that
point,
if
it's
over
30
days
and
there's
typically
rental
Overeem
in
some
things
like
that,
so
we're
not
getting
into
that.
So
it's
in
anytime
under
30
consecutive
days.
The
requirements
that
we
would
like
to
set
forth
is
that
they
would
completion
of
a
short-term
rental
permit
application.
Today,
nope,
okay,.
L
Talked
and
put
it
up
on
time,
completion
of
a
short-term
rental
permit
application,
completion
of
a
criminal
background
check
obtaining
a
valid
business
license,
and
then
they
would
be
required
to
renew
the
permit
annually
so
as
they
would
have
to
come
into
our
office,
especially
for
the
24
hour
contact
person
or
whatever
management
agency
that
may
be
running
it
or
if
the
owners
doing
that
themselves,
we
request
that
they
come
in
every
year
to
renew.
So
we
make
sure
we
have
a
constant
data
and
its
current
and
we
know,
what's
going
on
all
right
well,.
L
There
and
we'll
go
through
kind
of
quickly
what's
on
there,
so
we
have
the
property
address.
You
have
the
type
of
building,
whether
it's
residential,
single-family
and
multi-family,
if
it's
a
duplex,
if
it's
an
apartment
or
multi-family,
if
it's
a
condo
or
an
approve
accessory
dwelling,
approves
accessory
dwellings
have
to
be
a
detached
structure,
no
more
than
a
thousand
square
feet,
and
it
has
to
have
at
least
an
acreage
already
at
least
an
acre
or
more
already.
L
We
have
some
that
have
grandfathered
in
and
we
have
some
in
the
historic
district
or
some
that
are
in
lake
bottom,
that
our
grandfather
that
don't
meet
that
requirement
and
they
already
have
attached
cottages
and
those
would
be
eligible
as
well,
and
then
the
type
of
rental
is
either
a
partial
dwelling.
If
somebody
wants
to
ran
out
of
bedroom
of
their
basement
or,
however,
or
if
they
wanted
to
do
the
full
house
rental,
that
would
also
be
approved
on
the
application
on
the
application.
L
L
We
can
track
that
type
of
information
on
the
kind
of
the
code
in
code
side
is
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
these
individuals
attest
to
these
certain
things
that
they
have
to
have
a
certain
level
of
insurance,
that
smoke
detectors,
fire
extinguishers,
exits
and
escape
plans
are
provided
and
on-site
that
they
comply
with
any
standards
for
property
maintenance
codes.
You
know
it's
not
or
missing
utilities
things
like
that:
no
unpaid
obligations
or
liens
or
taxes
for
the
city,
so
the
old
property
tax,
or
anything
like
that.
L
We
make
sure
that
their
current
along
that
kind
of
information
and
if
a
renter,
because,
like
I,
said
we,
we
can't
necessarily
tell
them
that
they
shouldn't
sublease.
We
know
they
shouldn't
but
to
be
able
to
know
that
information.
We
will
ask
them
to
make
sure
that
they
bring
us
consent
if
they're
not
listed
as
the
owner
of
the
property
when
we
go
to
the
site
and
check
it
to
make
sure
that
they
have
consent
from
that
property
owner
to
do
what
they're
doing
so.
L
If
they
are
written
a
house
from
somebody
and
then
they
want
to
sublease
a
a
bedroom
in
that
house.
We
make
sure
that
that
property
owners
notified
that
they
know
that
that's
going
on
in
that
property
before
we
accept
the
application,
the
short-term
rental
agent,
that
person
is
available
to
handle
problems.
So
if
we
get
any
noise
complaints,
anything
like
that.
That's
the
person,
because
we
have
that
24-hour
contact
person
which
will
be
shared
with
local
authorities
police
department,
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
L
L
A
J
L
So,
like
I
said
the
duties
of
the
short
term,
the
rental
agent,
like
I,
said
they'll,
be
able
to
receive
and
accept
service
of
any
Notice
of
Violation.
So
if
we
get
a
noise
complaint
or
trash
complaint,
solid
waste
complaint,
any
kind
of
stuff
like
that
that
24-hour
contact
person
will
be
there
legalize
agent.
So,
therefore
we
have
issues
and
we
have
to
issue
citations.
That's
who
will
be
receiving
the
citation
regulation
procedures
like
I,
said
the
Visitors
Bureau
is
kind
of
running
the
the
the
over
site
to
kind
of
help
us
track
these
down.
L
So
they
will
be
the
ones
checking.
You
know
all
the
different
websites
to
see
who
that
is
because,
ideally
we
we
personally
don't
have
the
personnel,
because,
if
you've
been
on
Airbnb
in
these
sites
until
you
actually
book
the
room,
you
don't
know
where
exactly
the
street
is
it's
kind
of
general
area,
so
they'll
kind
of
be
able
to
be
our
eyes
on
the
ground
to
help
us
with
that.
But
because
the
visitor
view
is
not
a
part
of
us
that
can't
be
an
official
enforcement
arm,
but
they'll
help
us
with
the
complaints.
L
Typically,
we
get
these
anyway,
not
necessarily
for
this,
but
say
if
we
do
SEOs
any
other
type
of
business
license.
We
get
people
telling
on
each
other.
Hey
so-and-so
is
over
here
right
in
their
place
and
so
we'll
we
can
we'll
use
that
network
to
be
able
to
proceed
with
that.
The
CPB,
as
well
as
us,
will
maintain
a
file
of
all
short-term
rental
locations
and,
like
I
said
their
job
has
helped
us
advise
the
city
of
any
additions.
L
So
as
we
know
that
people
may
come
on
that,
we
are
not
aware
of
then
we'll
go
out
there
and
give
them
a
time
frame,
which
is
they
need
to
come
in
and
make
sure
that
they
they
come
in
and
get
get
an
application.
So
the
way
we
have
it
listed
right
now
is
three
violations
within
a
12-month
period
and
the
permit
will
be
revoked
for
a
period
of
12
months,
any
previous
violation
of
building
health
or
life
safety
codes
provisions.
The
owners
must
demonstrate
compliance.
L
So
if
we
go
out
there
and
in
investigating
that
they
don't
have
the
permit
any
of
these,
the
things
that
they
are
testitude,
if
they
don't,
if
they
you
know,
I
got
a
hole
in
the
roof
or
they
got
something
else.
That's
not
working.
We
we'll
also
hold
that
until
make
sure
those
things
are
corrected
before
we
allow
them
to
reopen
or
continue.
L
Ideally
here
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
create
a
first
time.
Typically,
any
violation
of
the
you
do
or
any
codes
goes
to
recorders
court
and
typically
there
is
not
a
fee
number
or
feet
tested
to
it,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
minimum
fine
for
people
who
assume
they
would
try
to
get
away
with
this
kind
of
stuff,
because
sometimes
you
can
go
to
recorders.
Court
has
kind
of
the
judges
discretion,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we
had
a
set
fee
to
start.
L
So
that's
why
we
chose
the
500
on
the
first
violation
750
on
the
second,
with
in
those
12
months
and
a
third
violation
or
a
thousand.
We
also
have
the
rule
to
you
know
we
can
override
that
and
just
go
ahead
and
pull
it
if
it's
an
egregious
violation.
If
it's
something
major
that's
happened
or
happened
at
that
site
or
happening
as
a
part
of
the
air
BnB,
some
type
of
burglary
or
anything
crazy
like
that,
we
could
just
go
ahead
and
just
revoke
it
period.
We
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
go
through
the
step
process.
L
The
appeal
to
the
appeal
process
would
be
to
the
city
manager
authorized
agent
me
so
we'll
just
have
to
deal
with
that
as
it
comes
through
taxes.
That's
why
I
have
you
Vaughn
here
in
case
y'all
have
any
questions
on
this.
These
are
all
the
taxes
once
we
have
a
license
with
them
that
they
would
be
required
to
pay,
and
that
was
the
timeline
getting
to
you
guys.
We've
got
the
dates
mixed
up,
but
antennas
to
go.
August
14th
for
the
first
reading
to
the
you
do
with
you.
Guys
is
approval,
so
any
questions.
F
L
Only
the
the
permit
itself
will
be
$40,
there's
a
$20
permit
fee
for
each
background
check.
So
each
persona,
if
you
have
say
if
you
have
your
your
applicant,
which
is
the
owner,
you
have
the
owner
information
and
the
24
hour
person.
If
that's
all
three
different
people,
there
would
be
$20
plus
the
40
of
the
permit
itself,
because
we're
recouping
the
cost
plan.
L
J
I
My
name
is
Yvonne
Ivey
and
I'm
with
the
finance
department,
occupation,
tax,
section,
the
administrative
fee,
the
process,
the
business
license
is
going
to
be
$75
and
it's
on
a
calendar
year
basis.
So
therefore,
that
license
will
expire
as
of
12:30
1
of
that
year
and
they
have
it
to
April
1
of
the
following
year
to
renew
it.
They
also
have
to
report
to
us
in
order
to
renew
it.
I
They
have
to
file
an
occupation
tax
return
in
which
they
have
to
report
to
us
the
amount
of
revenue
that
they
generated
and
we
tax
on
gross
receipts,
the
amount
of
revenue
that
they
generated
in
the
in
the
prior
year
and
what
they
think
they're
going
to
do
in
the
current
year,
and
that
would
determine
how
much
they
have
to
pay
to
renew
now.
Currently,
the
tax
rate
for
lodging
transits
a
hotel
operators
is
$3
and
21
cents
per
thousand
on
their
taxable
gross
receipts.
M
M
I
If
we
were
to
treat
them
like,
we
do
other
hotel
ORS
anyone
who
has
to
do
to
a
casualty,
such
as
a
fire
or
disaster
natural
disasters.
Thank
you.
We
do
allow
hotel
lodge
and
operators
to
exempt
the
gross
receipts
that
they
are
that
they
generate
from
that
from
that
renter
because
of
that
natural
casualty
that
just
took
place
and
there's
an
exemption
worksheet
that
we
attach
to
our
a
hotel,
motel
excise
tax
form.
So,
therefore,
if
you,
if
your
read
in
law,
if
he
has
to
go
ahead
well,.
A
D
I
K
So
the
questions
that
I
would
have
is
a
do.
We
have
some
sort
of
rampant,
Airbnb
problem
where
we
have
a
bunch
of
people
with
really
bad
homes,
and
things
like
that.
We've
had
numbers
of
safety
issues
that
we
need
to
address
this
and
then
the
second
question
is
why
just
the
30
days,
why
wouldn't
this
apply
to
anybody
if
I
rented
out
my
house
for
regardless
of
the
amount
of
time?
Why
does
it
matter
if
it's
30
days
or
not?
So
this
is
a
pretty
big
difference
to
your
wire.
A
I
Statue
yeah:
it's
lodging
if
you
rent
a
property
that
someone
is
using
as
transient
living
and
for
some
other
reason
like
the
extended
stay,
they
go
beyond
the
30
days
by
law.
On
the
31st
day,
we
cannot
they're
not
subject
to
Hotel
Motel
excise
tax
right,
but
we
will
charge
the
occupation
tax
and
there
are
some
exceptions
to
the
rules
with
sales
tax,
but
the
Georgia
Department
of
Revenue
would
have
to
act
on
that.
So,
if
they're
going
beyond
at
31
days,
that
means
that
that
is
their
abode
and
that's
where
they
live.
K
And
that's
that's
still
well
beyond
we're
in
the
revenue
portion
of
it.
I
understand.
Look
if
you're,
if
you're
generating
revenue,
you
need
to
be
paying
your
business
tax,
we're
business,
you
know,
have
business
licenses
and
whatnot,
but
like
the
permitting
the
the
$40
permit,
getting
the
background
checks,
you
know
inspections
about
codes
and
enforcement
and
stuff
like
that
and
that's
more
on
John's
side.
Why
isn't
this
apply
to
those
folks
as
well?
And
it's
not
a
you
know
why?
K
I
Your
version
on
what
we
call
a
residential
rental
and
bye-bye
columbus
code
for
anyone
who
rent
their
from
their
property
for
a
residential
stay
there
or
not.
They
are
exempt
for
from
occupation,
tax
and
business
licensing,
but.
K
L
Want
anything
beyond
that
is
under
the
property
maintenance
loss.
So
if
anybody
comes
in
and
they're
a
tenant
that
lives
in
a
property
and
they
have
deficiencies
that
are
in
their
homes,
they're
more
than
welcome
to
call
our
office
and
then
we
inspect
them
and
make
sure
at
that
point,
when
the
property
is
built,
it
receives
a
certificate
of
completion
so
that
at
that
point
it
is
done
and
it
meets
all
codes
unless
any
any
future
alterations
are
made
and
it
wants
any
alterations.
L
Our
main,
we
go
back
and
inspect
it
at
that
point,
so
this
is
only
to
cover
these
short-term
rentals,
where
you're
in
but
any
other
rental
agreement.
If
it's
a
tenant,
that's
living
in
substandard
conditions,
they
can
come
to
our
office
and
then
we
inspect,
but
at
that
point
and
we
go
back
to
review
when
that
permit
was
pulled
when
it
was
built
to
make
sure
it
met
code
at
that
time
and
check
the
floor,
plans
make
sure
any
of
those
alterations
weren't
made.
So
anything
after
that
point.
We
would
check
it
anyway,
but.
K
Why
would
you
if
you're
renting
it
out?
Why
wouldn't
you,
regardless
of
the
length?
Why
wouldn't
you
be
required
them
to
get
this
the
permit?
Not
that
not
the
license
the
tax
side,
but
the
permit
side?
Why
did
not
require
everyone
that
rents
out
their
property,
regardless
of
the
length
to
get
this
permit
and
I'm?
A
D
D
Can
I
pause
another
another
case
that
I'm
aware
of
right?
Now
that
may
you
may
be
able
to
illustrate
the
difference
between
what
mr.
Brennan
was
doing
in
and
in
this
case
in
my
in
my
neighborhood,
there
was
a
woman
that
died.
Okay,
her
daughter
doesn't
want
to
sell
a
house
right
away,
but
she
wants
to
have
some
income,
so
she
wants
to
run
it
out,
okay,
and
that
would
be
for
six
months
or
a
year
or
something
like
that.
I
A
K
That
that
that
I
understand
yes,
I
understand
the
mathematical
difference
between
staying
one
night
or
31
nights
and
I
understand
that
it's
a
difference,
but
these
things
that
we're
looking
for
life
safety,
whether
they've
got
a
felony
or
something
like
that.
Why
does
it
matter
if
it?
If
somebody
stays
in
your
house
for
one
night
or
300
nights,
why
does
yeah?
Why.
A
M
M
F
M
J
That
clarifies
of
me
how
to
advocate
for
a
Airbnb,
but
it
seems
like
it's
gonna,
stop
a
lot
of
people
from
wanting
to
engage
in
this
service
and
I.
Think
that
could
be
more
harm
to
the
city
than
helpful.
If
people
want
to
come
here
and
enjoy
that
type
lodging
and
not
to
be
forced
to
stay
in
certain
folks
hotels,
but
want
to
stay
in
a
private
home.
Well,
not
what
we're
finding
there
and.
A
L
A
L
F
I
L
As
a
permit,
then
these
are
the
requirements
that
are
done.
We
don't
check
everyone's
lease
if
somebody's
signing
a
place
whenever
they
are,
we
don't
see
a
copy
of
that
lease.
We're
just
trying
to
make
sure
sublease
is
especially
if
we're
dealing
with
home
occupations
or
home
offices
and
home
businesses.
That's
the
only
time
the
city
ever
sees
a
private
lease,
because
then
we
know
that
that
homeowner
has
approved
that
person
to
do
that
type
of
work.
L
K
J
K
No
regular
regulations
to
me,
but
right
now,
there's
no
regulations
to
me
other
than
the
typical.
What
you
talk
about,
if
my
home,
so
after
dated
y'all,
can
come,
look
at
it
and
market
for
demolition
and
whatnot.
But
there's
no
regulation
of
me
running
out
my
house
right
now
for
more
than
31
days,
so
I
get
it.
J
M
L
A
I
Add
please
we're
trying
to
we
try
to
put
we're
trying
to
do
this
fairly
across
the
board,
because
these
short-term
rentals
they're
in
competition
with
our
hotel
ORS
and
we
make
them
abide
by
our
rules
and
they're
collecting
monies.
And
so
we
tried
to
have
the
short-term
runners
to
abide
by
the
same,
almost
the
same
rules
as
a
hotel
earth
and
there
they
have
a
truer
argument
to
say
we're
having
it
pay
sales
tax.
We
haven't
obtained
8%,
lodging
tax
yeah,
we're
having
to
pay
occupation.
I
D
I
I
Others
have
to
obtain
a
certificate
of
occupancy
from
the
inspectors
and
close
office
in
lieu
of
the
certificate
of
occupancy,
we're
having
them
to
get
this
show
on
the
short-term
rental
permit
and
then,
after
that,
it's
the
same
thing
across
the
board,
if
they're,
if
the
hotel
are,
is
in
violation
where
they're
not
paying
their
taxes
or
didn't
renew
their
business
license
with
some,
especially
enforcement.
The
same
thing
is
going
to
apply
for
our
short-term
rental
people.
Instead.
K
Of
I
guess
the
idea
is
you're,
providing
a
short
circuit
for
the
one-off
situations
or
for
the
small
small
business
person,
the
one
family
owner,
but
what
you're
also
telling
me
is
is
they're
all
already
laws
on
the
books,
city
and
state
that
regulate
short-term
rentals,
that
are
where
they
are
supposed
to
be
paying
their
fees
and
stuff
like
that
and
we're
just
not
enforcing
it.
For
whatever
reason,
which
I
know
there's
a.
We
got
a
staff
issue
too
that
needs
help,
but
there
are
laws
on
the
books.
So
why
add?
K
I
I
We
looked
at
other
cities
as
far
as
in
Savannah
and
even
in
New
Orleans,
and
we
try
to
mimic
what
they
put
into
play,
because
it's
already
in
action
and
everything
is
a
work
you
know
in
in
in
process
as
we
go
along
to
try
to
better
this.
This
is
this
is
what
we've
come
up
with,
just
based
on
the
information
that
we
obtain
from
other
cities
throughout
the
United
States.
A
A
Lack
of
a
better
word
regulate
appropriately
operations
in
a
that
are
acting
in
as
if
they
are
in
a
hotel
or
lodging
situation
to
bring
them
on
board,
with
getting
a
business
license
and
being
compliant
with
codes
and
enforcement,
so
that
we
can
also
appropriately
tax
them.
I
mean
I,
think
that
that's
it
in
a
summary,
I
mean
I,
realize
the
background
check
is
a
bone
of
contention.
I
hear
that
loud
and
clear
I
guess
I'd
be
curious.
Outside
of
the
background
check.
Is
it.
J
F
J
K
H
K
K
Well,
in
again,
everything
these
just
a
connection.
You
know:
I
just
have
a
problem
with
it
restricting
an
economy,
it's
another
layer
of
bureaucracy
and
red
tape.
If
somebody
in
in
Columbus,
you
know
they're
trying
to
get
ahead
and
they
want
to
rent
out
their
room
on
a
short-term
basis,
because
they've
got
a
nice
place
downtown
and
this
helps
them
get
ahead.
This
is
just
one
more
thing.
I
mean
all
of
these
steps
here
and
again,
there's
already
laws
your
if
you're
under
30
days,
you're
supposed
to
be
following
the
hotel
walls.
K
F
A
Any
other
comments
amongst
the
commissioners
comments
or
questions.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
text?
Amendment
I,
don't
see
anybody
coming
forward,
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
against
it
if
I
do
not
see
any
ones
I.
Don't
do
I
have
a
motion
on
this
text.
Amendment
any
motion.