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A
A
A
Would
like
to
remind
those
in
the
audience
and
those
watching
on
TV
that
this
is
the
first
reading
of
any
rezoning
for
the
spot
or
special
exception
requests
brought
before
us
today.
We
will
hear
a
reading
of
the
staff
report
and
we
will
ask
the
applicant
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
request.
We
will
then
give
the
opportunity
for
anyone
in
the
audience
to
speak,
for
or
against
the
request.
A
The
commissioners
will
have
any
needed
discussion
and
render
a
decision,
and
then
that
decision
will
be
sent
back
to
the
Planning
Division
and
then
on
to
City
Council.
Who
will
hear
the
request
two
more
times
before
rendering
a
final
decision?
We
do
have
minutes
that
were
sent
out
to
you,
commissioners.
Earlier
we
can
accept
those
as
submitted
unless
any
of
you
have
any
changes
or
additions
that
need
to
be
made
to
them
and
I
see.
None
so
will
we
will
submit
those
as
accepted
I.
Do.
B
A
Absolutely
so
do
that
one
first!
Yes,
please,
all
right,
so
we
have
accepted
the
minutes
as
submitted,
and
then
we
will
bring
our
first
case
board,
which
is
a
request
for
a
special
exception
use
located
at
1501
13th
Street.
The
current
zoning
is
NC,
which
is
neighborhood
commercial.
The
request
is
to
allow
for
a
use
for
more
than
5,000
square
feet
within
an
existing
structure.
Brian
cielito
is
the
applicant
and
the
property
is
located
and
counts.
District
seven
would
sent
mr.
Harrod
if
you'll
read
the
staff
report
for
us.
Please
thank.
B
You,
the
property,
is
located
at
1501,
13th
Street.
The
we
have
three
different
qualifiers
that
we
have
to
look
at.
The
first
is
access,
is
Street
access
to
the
building
adequate
to
serve
one
or
more
permitted
uses
that
occupy
more
than
5,000
square
feet.
Gross
square
feet
in
the
building
the
local
street
provides
access
to
the
property
north
cool
street
at
providing
access
to
the
property
will
be
adequate
for
neighborhood
commercial
use
within
said.
Building
traffic
and
pedestrian
safety
currently
accessed
is
adequate
to
serve
the
proposed
use
in
the
building.
B
The
existing
building
has
been
in
existence
for
numerous
years
and
has
various
access
points
for
from
numerous
streets.
At
adequacy
of
public
facilities,
the
property
the
proposed
use
is
served
by
all
city
services.
There
will
be
no
school
impacts,
there
were
30
property
owners
that
were
sent
notices
and
we
received
no
comment
from
any
of
them
within
the
300
feet.
Thank.
C
A
D
Morning,
my
name
is
Brian
cielito.
The
address
is
a
1200
sixth
Avenue.
That's
the
address
of
the
Columbus
Chamber
of
Commerce
I
am
before
you
today,
as
I
have
been
on
a
couple
of
other
occasions,
as
it
relates
to
projects
that
we
are
working
in
terms
of
economic
development,
specifically
job
creation
and
capital
investment.
D
The
the
property
owner
is
in
the
audience
today
as
well.
Mike
McMillan,
the
property
is
1501
13th
Street.
Some
of
you
may
remember
that
building
as
being
built
in
the
early
1970s
by
mr.
Woodruff
over
the
years,
it's
been
several
things,
including
IBM,
has
at
least
the
entire
building,
which
is
about
30,000
square
feet.
Tesis
has
been
in
it
over
the
years
recently
in
recent
history.
Prior
to
2005,
the
building
has
had
several
tenants
in
smaller
uses,
but
the
building
is
was
built
and
designed
to
accommodate
one
large
user.
D
We
find
ourselves
in
this
instance
kind
of
at
a
in
a
in
a
strange
position
where
zoning
of
situ
then
became
neighborhood
commercial
where
office
uses
is
allowed,
but
office
use
only
at
5,000
square
feet
or
less,
and
that's
why
the
request
for
the
special
exception.
So
kind
of
what?
What
is
what
is
at
stake
here
is,
as
it
relates
to
economic
development,
the
creation
of
a
hundred
and
fifty
new
jobs
to
Columbus.
A
E
B
Under
the
current
zoning
for
neighborhood
commercial,
if
you
have,
if
you
build
a
new
building
in
neighborhood
commercial,
you
can
only
build
it
to
five
thousand
square
feet.
So
therefore,
it's
a
legal
non-conforming
use
currently
as
it
states
it
doesn't.
Its
overall
footprint
is
thirty
thousand
square
feet,
but
as
it
sits
in
NC,
which
is
neighborhood
commercial
zoning
district,
it
only
allows
for
a
five
thousand
square
foot
building.
So
therefore
they
are
asking
for
the
exception.
D
My
understanding
that
the
building
is
thirty
thousand
square
feet,
but
can
only
be
subdivided
to
five
thousand
square
feet.
So
what
we've
got
in
this
instance
is:
we've
got
a
user
currently
in
the
building
in
sixty
eight
hundred
square
feet,
and
then
we
have
several
smaller
users
within
that
structure.
What
the
owner
is
proposing
to
do
is
to
take
down
all
of
the
dividing
interior
walls,
reopen
up
the
building
to
one
single
user,
which
would
be
in
excess
of
the
five
thousand
square
feet
as
it
states
in
the
you
do.
A
A
E
F
E
A
I
have
mr.
Davis
is
second,
second,
all
those
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
right
hand.
It
is
unanimous,
so
we
will
send
that
as
approved
on
to
Council
into
the
planning
department.
Thank
you
so
much,
and
that
will
bring
us
to
our
next
zoning
request,
which
this
is
a
request
to
amend
article
8
of
chapter
7
of
the
unified
development
ordinance
you
do
by
adding
a
new
paragraph,
k2
section,
seven
point:
eight
two
point:
three
design
standards
for
streets:
mr.
Heric
at.
F
Good
morning
will
Johnson
Planning
Department.
We
were
approached
by
or
actually
council
councillor
Henderson
requested
during
a
council
meeting
that
we
look
into
this
of
amending
of
creating
an
appeals
process
for
essentially
cul-de-sacs.
That's
what
this
is
affecting
and
emergency
turnarounds
and
things
of
that
nature.
So,
at
his
request
we
have
moved
it
forward
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
just
kind
of
read
over
it,
but
just
keep
in
mind
this
roof.
This
refers
to
cul-de-sacs.
You
have
emergency
personnel
that
have
to
get
in
there
and
turn
around
fire
trucks.
F
If
you
don't
have
a
cul-de-sac,
garbage
trucks
have
to
back
down
the
street
to
get
your
garbage
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
what
that's
why
we
require
coldest
acts
and
emergency
turnarounds,
but
this
is
an
appeals
process
that
would
be
that
would
go
into
the
you
do
in
section
7,
so
the
new
language
would
be
section.
F
Seven
point:
eight
point
three
point:
K
appeal
of
Street
design
standards,
any
property
owner
aggrieved
by
a
determination
may,
pursuant
to
the
standards
set
forth
in
this
code,
section
seven
point:
eight
three
may
only
may
seek
a
variance
to
such
standard.
Upon
request
to
counsel
so
it
would
not
go
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals.
It
would
go
straight
to
Council
all
of
engineering
appeals,
except
for
parking
already,
Oh
straight
to
Council.
F
A
variance
shall
be
issued
only
when
there
is
one
a
finding
of
good
and
sufficient
cause
number
two:
a
determination
that
failure
to
grant
the
variance
would
result
in
an
exceptional
hardship,
and
that
does
not
have
to
be
financial.
Three.
A
finding
that
council
has
received
and
reviewed
the
recommendations
of
the
Department
of
Engineering,
the
Department
of
Planning,
the
Department
of
Public
Works,
the
Columbus
Police
Department
and
Columbus
Fire
EMS
Department
concerning
the
various
requests.
So
all
those
departments
will
have
input
into
whether
they
would
support
the
variance
or
not.
F
Finally,
a
determination
by
Council
that
the
granting
of
a
variance
will
not
interfere
with
the
provision
of
city
services
along
the
impacted
streets,
inhibit
the
access
of
Public
Safety
vehicles
into
the
affected
area,
resulting
in
extraordinary
public
expense
or
otherwise
threaten
the
safety
of
the
public
and
I'll
entertain
any
questions.
I
know
that's
a
lot
of
legal
age.
F
My
well,
it
refers
to
a
cul-de-sac,
I'm,
not
sure
where
this,
if
there's
a
situation
out
there
that
exists
now,
but
it
does
refer
to
a
cul-de-sac
because
that's
pretty
much
what
we
require
when
you
stub
out
a
street,
even
if
you're
stubbing
the
street
into
a
property
you
may
acquire
in
the
future,
we
still
require
you
to
have
an
emergency
turn
around
and
have
to
be
paved.
It
can
be
crushed
and
run
or
something,
but
if
you
get
a
fire
truck
or
garbage
truck
or
something
in
there,
they
have
gotten
a
turn
turn
around.
F
If
you
have
a
street
stubbed
out
and
we've
got
houses
on
it,
a
garbage
truck
has
to
back
in.
On
top
of
that,
they
you
got
the
prisoners
on
there.
You
don't
want
to
accidentally
back
over
a
prisoner
because
you've
got
the
thing
in
Reverse
and
they're
grabbing
cans.
So
that
is
why
we
require
emergency
turnarounds
and
cul-de-sacs,
but
this
would
create
an
appeal
process
for
that
interesting.
A
F
F
Can
already
get
variances
from
council
on
street
design
and
things
like
that,
whether
you're
narrowing
it
I
know
Old
Town,
as
like
twenty
four-inch
twenty
four
feet
between
the
curbs,
but
there's
nothing
in
there,
specifically
for
emergency
turnarounds
or
cul-de-sacs.
So
that's
what
this
would
affect.
Everything
else
is
Street
design
currently
has
a
variance
process.
All.
A
C
F
G
C
F
E
G
E
F
C
E
And
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
out
clarity
to
me.
Yes,
so
amazing
I,
so
so
right
now,
there's
a
city
policy
that
states,
if
you
have
a
dead-end
street
in
a
new
subdivision,
you
must
have
a
cul-de-sac
for
various
reasons
which
I
think
a
good
reason:
yeah
fire
safety
and
trash
trucks,
things
that
nature
it
people
so
that
they
don't
have
to
back
down
the
street
or
into
someone
else's
driveway.
They
will
go
and
turn
around,
and
that
was
a
steadfast
policy
with
no
appeal
process
right.
So
right
now.
E
F
A
I
think
you
know
harkening
on
mr.
Issa
and
it
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
we
have
this
great
policy
in
place
right
now,
especially
for
a
new
neighborhoods
or
whatever
that
you
have
to
have
these
color
sacs
for
various
good
reasons,
and
we
believe
that
that's
a
good
ordinance.
E
A
F
E
A
E
C
Say
it's
a
when
it
comes
to
public
safety
just
to
draw
some
analogies
here
at
public
safety,
water
quality
standards?
Okay,
if
the
change
in
water
quality
standard
would
be
something
which
will
be
taken
very
seriously.
Okay
building
codes,
which
require
minimum
strength
of
buildings
and
minimum
loads
that
they
have
to
be
resigned
designed
for
you'd,
have
to
go
a
long
way
before
you
got
a
waiver
our
building
code.
This
is
a
public
safety
issue,
also
so
I'm
still
trying
to
get
my
head
around.
Why
we're
doing
this?
For
a
cul-de-sac
and.
A
H
F
H
If,
if
we're
talking
about
a
road
that
is
going
to
be
eventually
extended,
mm-hmm,
okay
and
you
have
to
have
this
emergency
cul-de-sac
or
turn
around
crush
and
run
whatever
I
can't
see
that
being
a
major
expense
for
a
builder
or
any
other
opportunity.
So
I'm
with
mr.
Kenner
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
understand!
Why
we're
trying
to
to
do
this?
To
be
quite
honest
with
you
and.
E
F
Average
subdivision
today
the
right-of-way
is
either
gonna,
be
50
or
60
feet
wide,
curb
the
curbs,
gonna
be
what
Kevin's
30
and
then,
of
course,
people
Park
on
the
street
yeah
there's
usually
only
room
in
a
driveway
for
two
cars
side
by
side.
So
you
got
a
bunch
of
kids
whatnot
they're
parking
on
the
street
gas
parking
on
the
street,
so.
H
H
C
A
C
E
Would
really
love
additional
information?
I
would
I
would
love
to
have
at
least
one
example
of
where
this
with
an
example
like
mr.
mr.
Greenblatt
said
where
it
would
fit
this
circumstance,
because
you
say
you
know
here
number
two:
it's
a
grant.
The
variance
will
result
in
exceptional
hardship
night.
You
know
me.
E
And-
and
you
said
other
than
financial
hardship,
you
know
the
only
thing:
I'm
thinking
is
you're,
taking
away
more
land.
That
could
be
a
part
of
a
lot
for
a
home
or
something
of
that
nature
and
to
me,
that's
not
set
perceptional
hardship
as
it
relates
to
public
safety.
So
I
would
really
need
to
know
help
me
visualize,
where
this
would
be
empty.