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A

Good morning, I'd like to call the september 2nd 2020 planning advisory commission meeting to to order and we'll start with the pledge allegiance and our flag is behind us out on the front lawn. So if you would face that direction, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

A

Thank you, and I would please ask you to silence your cell phones during this meeting uh or turn them off today we're operating under much different circumstances, as most meetings are now being held. We have some commissioners that are watching by television or youtube and will be forwarding questions to me via text right now. Today we have one that's doing that we will have citizens calling in via phone with questions and our comments.

A

So we ask those watching here and by other means to be patient with us as we move these cases forward, the phone number in which to call in is 706 225-3937 and it is scrolling on your screen for those that are watching electronically.

A

I remind those in the audience, and those watching on by other means that this is the first hearing of any rezoning text change or special exec exception request brought before us here today. We first hear a reading of the staff report for the case by planning staff ask the applicant to provide a brief overview of the request.

A

We will then give the opportunity for anyone in the audience to speak, for or against that request or to inquire about the said request. The commissioners will then have any needed discussion on the case. Once a motion is made and seconded by the commission, a vote will take place. The recommendation will be rendered.

A

The case will then go back to the planning department for their independent recommendation. If a favorable recommendation is given, then the case is forwarded to the city council with the two independent recommendations.

A

If the planning department makes a recommendation for denial, the applicant will then have 10 days from the receipt of a letter stating the denial to notify the clerk of counsel that they are requesting to be placed on city council's agenda city council of columbus will hold a meeting a public meeting and that's called the first reading said council shall consider the case review.

A

Our recommendation, planning department recommendations and hear discussion on the matter council will then make a final decision and vote at a second public meeting, and it's called the second reading so we'll get to our agenda for the day. First item agenda is to approve the minutes of the previous meeting, which would be august. The 19th 2020.

A

So has everyone had an opportunity to take a look at those minutes um and any any changes. I think a few changes were made, but uh they they all look good to me and I'm sure, if you and somebody has a change, we're going to go ahead and consider those accepted everybody. Okay, all right, all right, so we'll get to our one and only case this morning and zoning case rezoning case. One r e z, n 0 0720-2248: this request results: 0.24 acres of land located at 849, brighton road.

A

Current zoning is gc general commercial proposed zoning is sfr3 single family residential three. The proposed use is personal care home type, one which is one to six madeleine breboy is the applicant. The property is located in council district, one barnes pop barnes, we'll ask uh planning to give us their report. First. Please.

B

Yes, sir excuse me, general land use is consistent for planning area e. Current land use designation is neighborhood commercial, future land use designation, a single family residential. It is compatible with existing lane uses. The property does not lie within the floodway and floodplain area. The developer will need an approved drainage plan prior to an issuance of a site development permit. If a permit is required, property is served by all city services. The average annual daily trips will decrease by 44 trips. If used for residential use, the level of service will remain a level b.

B

The site shall meet the codes and regulations of ccg for residential usage. There'll be no school impact. The site shall include a category c buffer along all property lines, bordered by the sfr zoning district. The three options under category a are for one: there's, none for two 20 feet with a certain amount of shrubs ornamental grasses per 100 millennial feet in a wood fence or masonry wall, and three is done fort. Bending recommendation, no dri recommendation. None surrounding zoning, north general, commercial, south, as general commercial east is sfr3.

B

West is general commercial 35 out 35 property owners within 300 feet of the subject. Properties were notified of the resulting request. The planning department received two calls in our emails regarding this rezoning. Those two calls were in opposition as far as additional information that was brought to our attention. This property has been a daycare twice in the past first day. Care was closed due to child abuse. Second day care was closed due to fraud. The opposition is concerned about surrounding property values.

B

If this property is rezoned or residential, most do not want to lose the general commercial zoning. Although the primary use of these parcels is residential in nature, and that is all for the staff report, all.

A

Right, thank you, mr roon. Pro commissioners. Do you all have any questions, mr info?

A

Anyone all right, I'm not seeing any text questions so all right if the applicant would please come forward to present the case and step to this podium. There tell us what your plans are.

A

A

And I need your name and address for the record. Please.

C

um Madeline brayboy is there for 849 brighton road, columbus, georgia, 31906.

A

Okay, so tell us what your plans are.

C

Our plan was to change the home into a personal care home one to six people.

C

It is a quiet neighborhood. We did not plan to change any of that. Just allowing clients, disabled or elderly another place another home to live.

C

We had already originally when we requested for the property, we were told it was correct, but it's wrong and we already resigned the bedrooms inside. We haven't made any noise or any complaints about those changes being made during that time.

C

And I've worked in personal care homes before so. I've been doing this for a few years and it would be our pleasure to serve our community. This way.

A

Okay, the two things that came up: did you own it prior or are you a new owner.

C

A

You are okay, okay, and let me ask you another question too: um on these personal care homes who who actually oversees these things as far as health department state you are you inspected or.

C

Yes, we are, and.

A

Is that like periodic or is it.

C

uh Yes, there is a periodic in plus, of course, we'd already make arrangements for our own accountability being checked through acquisitions to make sure that all documentation would be correct. Medication usage is monitored and supplies, feeding making sure all meals are appropriate.

A

Okay and you're planning to run this yourself.

C

Yes, sir, okay.

A

All right, commissioners do y'all, have any questions. Yes, sir.

D

What I know is a personal care home, but what would be the mental stability of the people? Will it be people that are mentally challenged or people with physical disabilities.

C

um Actually, you have to be ambulatory to live into that type of personal care home so and no mental disability.

D

Okay, thank you for your answer.

A

All right anybody else have any questions. uh Yes, ma'am, just if yeah yeah.

E

Is your property fenced in.

C

uh Yes, ma'am. Actually, we have three segments of fencing around that property. We didn't remove the old daycare fencing that was around the property, so we actually have fencing in the front yard, fencing to the side and fencing in the back. Okay,.

E

A

All right any other questions, and I have none on the virtual side here, all right. No other questions all right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Is anyone the audience and I know we have one there do we did you? Would you like to speak for or against this proposal.

F

The hard of hearing I didn't understand everything you were saying, but I am in the opposition of. Let me get in.

A

Can I get your name and address please there you.

F

Go that's on willa carnes. I live at 855, brighton, columbus, georgia, okay, I'm opposing this 849 brighton road facility because 20 years when I bought the house in the early 20s early 90s, I'm sorry for my girlfriend. Then now wife, it was a daycare. I've been a daycare for 20 years. I couldn't enjoy my backyard through the week. Just had to do it on the weekend from that day, kelly that daycare closed because of child neglect, a child cruelty, they closed it down.

F

Another daycare came in and they got closed down for fraud brought the government out of money. So now the house was sold out to a single family relevant home and that's what I feel like that's what it should be because it's been a business twice and it should be stay as healed as a single resident family home. But we don't want no there's buyers going around. We don't need no more people coming in his vibe is in this senior citizen, home and and all this kind of stuff. So we don't want it.

F

I talked to the neighbors. I walked the neighborhood and talked to the neighbors. They don't want it, the man next door to 8 49. He didn't even get a letter from the advisory board, the saying that they was changing it, but he saw the sign so we talked about it, but we don't want it.

F

A

Don't want the problem. You live right, you're, right next door, you're right next door, correct! I.

F

Mean just I can't.

A

You live right, correct, right, next door to the house next.

F

Door to the house right right, I'm next door to the house.

A

All right all right, commissioners,.

F

Y'all have any questions like I said. I talked to all the neighbors in that neighborhood and don't know of them they wanted to be in this morning, but they're going back to work. But since this viral start they're going back to work, they can't be off. So they just told me if they need me to come back again and they would try to get here to try to speak their opinion. So they don't want it, and I don't either.

A

All right, thank you, mr carnes. Any questions.

E

Commissioners, sir, do you have a petition that was signed by the neighborhood.

F

No, I didn't know, I can't.

E

I'm sorry, do you have a petition that they signed objecting having this personal care home there.

F

I still didn't understand.

E

Do you have a piece of paper that they signed? No, no, that your neighbor signed, saying that they do not want this home there or you do have a petition that.

F

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E

You haven't got a petition, but I.

F

Haven't got anything anybody signed. I haven't I've. Seen this lady two or three times you haven't spoke, haven't said anything to nobody. Neighborhood just came in thought moving stuff in that night, so I was told yes.

E

Sir, so you got their word that they don't want it there right. Okay, thank you. Thank you all right. Thank you.

F

They told us nothing they're, just trying to move in on top of us for no reason we don't want, we don't want to rezone it all right. Let's stay as is of the family rather than home district. We, I sure, would appreciate it. The neighborhood would appreciate it and my daughter looked up. Let me say this before I sit down my daughter looked up last night about a group home that that she was running a group home children group home didn't have nothing to do with a dog.

F

It was a group home somebody's trying to come in the back, though some kind of way for the wrong reason. I don't want it all right. I appreciate it if you would deny it. Thank you, sir. Back.

A

There all right anybody else well that takes care of the ones that we have here in the audience I'd. I do uh not have any questions from anybody else virtually so with that said, we need to get a motion on this case, so who would like to make a motion.

A

Did you did you want to respond to his concerns?

A

Well, please come come forward. Miss bray boy. Am I saying your name right? Yes, okay,.

A

You can take your mask down there. You go you're easier to hear, but if you would address his concerns, if you would why but address it to us, please of.

C

Course um what we're asking for is right now the property is marked commercial, we're asking for it to be changed to a residential home.

C

It will be six individual residents of elderly care that need a place to stay, someone to take care of them.

C

There will be no ruckus, no running down the streets, no changing, actually we're improving the property because it was actually pretty it's been sitting for years. No one has been using it, no thought for the property, no care for the property, so we're be we're actually cleaning up the outside.

C

um Changing it up, trying to put a garden in um it will be home to six people, um just like everyone else, has the right to have a home and and have some care for now.

C

I understand that if someone felt that we were moving in and changing the area without their permission- and I do express that my apologies for that- that there was any lack of communication with us in the area we were trying to be quiet and decent when we purchased the home, it looked good to our clientele that we were trying to serve, which actually fits the same dynamics of the area.

C

There are single parents or we've been actually watching the area ourselves. No one is loud, no music, no racing up and down the streets, it's a very decent area to live, and we do not want to change that. We want to add to it and just make sure that we're serving our community. Well previously, we are not responsible for what businesses try to run out of that home.

C

We are responsible for ourselves and how we maintain from that that point, should we be judged on how we maintain our home and take care of our clients and make sure that our documentation has maintained up to state recommendations.

A

Okay, does that answer you, mr.

G

A

G

I have one other question, though you said you're up to six individuals, and that be including yourself would be seven. Is that correct.

C

G

So or you said, they're ambulatory are you gonna have an intention? uh Is there an opportunity to have seven vehicles parked at that location.

C

You know, sir, most clients that even come to a personal care home and due to state regulations, they do not have their own personal transportation. If they did, they would not be living in a personal care home.

A

Okay, thank you. Okay, any other questions. Yes, ma'am.

E

You stated that you ran a personal care home in the past.

C

E

Okay, um you still have that one.

C

uh No ma'am, actually, it was for va and I relocated for another reason.

E

Okay, so that was in columbus.

C

uh Yes, ma'am, it was for columbus and I ran it successfully for a year. I just asked I actually went to the system and told them that I needed to close the house and that I would actually reopen another va home. You know in the future. Okay.

E

Okay, thank you.

A

All right anyone else, mr brannon.

H

I had a question for mr renfrow: what what sort of things or can you give examples of what someone if they owned this property, one of those adjacent that are general commercial? What they could put in those homes right now buy right with no change like what are some of the you know, probably the more um things you wouldn't want in a residential area, but that could be done right now with no.

B

As far as, if it remained gc correct, uh pretty much gc is our most relaxed zoning. um The only thing that can't go in general commercial is residential uses, which is why she is attempting to rezone it to a to an sfr three.

H

But they I mean convenience store.

H

B

That on that, that road, that has a general commercial could convert their home into a convenience store if they would like, or it.

H

Looks like a truck repair store based on some of the right to the udo table. So I mean you could have lots of car wash banquet facility. Things like that that could run 24 7 correct in a neighborhood in essence, buy right; no, they can do it right now. Yes, sir. That's right.

A

You know I notice on the map there's a lot of gc there. There is quite a bit and even your property is general commercial as well. So um it's just it's just amazing. How? What would you attribute that to remaining general commercial is that for future land uses.

B

That I'm sure, whenever they started converting everything um with the udo change with the city or from the county to the city, that that's, why it got rezoned to general commercial, and it just never has a lot of times in this case, this would be an area that we would reach out to them and basically say: would it would everybody like to raise on their property at once, and the planning department would take care of that fee and getting all that documentation together?

B

The problem is: is some of the the owners there actually want to keep their property general commercial, so gotcha.

A

But I noticed it backs up to light manufacturing too, so you know that that is a transitional zoning. So all right any other questions.

G

Just have one but the future land use for all of that along that street is for single family.

B

It is single family, okay, yes, sir, and I just wanted to clarify just as far as group, home and personal care home a group home is for children and a personal care home is for adults right. Okay,.

G

So the question for this committee, though, is more the land use, that's correct. The the regulations of how that is used is not a part of this body at all correct.

B

That's correct because, through the through the um fair housing act, basically any group of people is con considered a family unit. So in this case you're technically just considering will you allow sfr3 to be rezoned in this location in the sink and the future land use a single family all right all.

A

Right. Thank you very much.

C

A

All right, commissioners, yeah, do we have any other questions? Yes, sir.

F

Has anyone ever went.

A

F

B

Yes, sir, everybody on this commission, including myself, wrote by that prior.

F

To it, if anybody looked at them quite sure you would have turned it down, then just looking at the house could have been a top on the house for the last year since they moved in it. Hadn't been repaired. Had nothing been done, so it's just a total mess. You look at. You asked me for a home. You know living in a home right, so all that need to be looked into before you make a decision forward.

B

F

Would be a neighborhood, I appreciate it.

B

That would need to go through inspections and codes, and they would deem whether the property is suitable to live in.

A

Right and I'm sure she's not going to invest in that property unless she can get it resolved.

B

Right and the fire department is also going to go out and take a look at that property, and I'm, assuming that's already been done so that you know how many, how many residents can actually reside in that personal care home.

A

All right any other questions or comments all right. The floor is open for a motion. So if someone would like to make a motion, please consider it.

A

All right, what's your question, we cut on your speaker, dr mccaskey, please, if you would come back up, please thank you.

D

Okay, this is some of my questions in regards to the young gentleman like. When you get the home open, we all have vans for the people to travel. Will families be allowed to come visit them there? What are your daily hours of operations going to be like.

C

um Operations resume from eight to four to five o'clock in the evening.

C

Yes, we will have transportation, we do have a driveway and all this time, while we have been moving back and forth between our trans property, we have remained on our property, not parking, not in, um shall I say, disrupting any traffic flow coming through the neighborhood at any time. I'll normally allow anyone to most of the time family visits are reserved to about 15 to 30 minutes.

C

Then, most of the time family just pick comes in, they will pick up the client and they will leave and then they'll come back. However, also because the covert rules right now visits are being excluded, more everything is via the phone until issues are resolved because most clients right now, if they're going out due to their health issues, they are picking up diseases and possibly bringing them back. Most clients are aware that the fact that once they move into a home, they won't be allowed to go out unless it's really doctors a visit, something necessity.

C

But, besides that, it's not heavy traffic flow and it's not something that our driveway can handle.

C

It would be like me, being a regular resident in the home, and I have my family come out for the weekend.

A

Okay, all right, mr moran, and I think mr brandon, you have a question.

H

A

Miss thomas.

E

Okay, you said there will be six residents and one with you now you don't have no other staff.

C

Oh, I will have assistance, I will have assistance and we've already worked out. A meal plan and meal plans are approved by dhs and regulated on health, sodium making sure you have a diabetic meal as well.

E

So how many more, are you counting other than you and those that you just mentioned.

C

That would be a rotating.

E

A rotating shift.

C

Yes, and um that would be one to two others, that's it.

E

Okay, thank you.

H

All right, mr brandon, and how long have you had, I want to say, control of the property I don't obviously haven't started operating yet so how long have you been associated or involved with 849.

C

H

Okay, so you had so you've been involved with the prior businesses that were there or there's just no.

C

No! No! No, since we purchased that home.

H

In 2016., okay, thank you.

D

I have another question so have you made the proper um fixings like he was saying? The top on the roof are y'all fixing everything up to be brought up. The cold.

C

Yes, sir, our main situation was inside to get that fixed up and then we've been working on beautification on the outside of the home as well. I'm sure he's probably talking about it, needs a touch up on the outside for the paint and so forth and all but my thought process on creating this home is. I will not have someone live somewhere where my own family would not live so before it even goes that far, you know. I have other support as well, that I mentor under that.

C

I would be very proud to have come walk to my home first before anybody is actually entered into my home.

A

Thank you all right, any other questions. Commissioners.

A

Does that answer your questions? Yes, okay, thanks! So much. Thank you. Thank you very much.

A

All right. The floor is still open for a motion. Someone would like to make it. Mr brannon.

H

Sure, in the case of rezn 07-20-2248 property located at 849 brighton road, a request to down zone from general commercial to sfr 3, because it is consistent with general land use and consistent with future land use and compatible with existing lane use. I move that we recommend approval of this request.

A

All right, I have a motion to approve. Do we have a second second from miss thomas any discussion?

A

All those in favor raise your right hand to approve this case.

A

All right. We've got one two, three, okay and all, let's see so that leaves us with one two and I got a no on here. So we have a tie.

A

A

I sure have wait a minute. uh No, he he voted to approve. I apologize. He said no because I put on their questions, so we've got four to approve and three to disapprove, so they got me out of the hot seat. Didn't it all right that was from mr dudley, he did vote to approve virtually all right. You got that mr renfrow, sir 4-2, I'm sorry 4-2, I'm counting myself anyway, all right that takes care of our cases today.

A

um Again, I'd like to officially welcome miss gloria thomas uh we're glad to have you here and uh we're glad look forward to working with you. Thank you and we have sheila brown that will be here. She had a previous uh previously scheduled appointment for today, but she should be here on october. The 7th which we do have one case, and if you have any questions about those cases you know, are you familiar with trello?

A

Has he told you about what you got to do, and I mean you, you guys have coordinated on that and also with miss brown, I'm hoping too. So if you ever have any questions, please feel free to call me and I'll be glad to help you. So thank.

E

A

Yes, ma'am: is there any old business we need to talk about? I will I will mention this. We will have the employee, the employee handbook. You can tell I'm doing too much. We've got a commissioner's handbook that we will be reviewing at the next meeting. So if you would take time to download that and read it and if you want to bring a copy, if you have questions so anyway with that said, we are dismissed. Thank you.