City of Columbus, GA PAC Meeting, 1 Feb 2017

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A

Good morning, I would like to bring this februari first 2017 meeting of the planning and advisory commission to order. If you please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

A

Thank you and I would like to remind those in the audience and those watching on television that this is the first reading of any rezoning request brought before us today. We will hear a reading of the staff report and ask the applicant to provide a brief overview of the request. We will then give the opportunity for anyone in the audience to speak, for or against that request. The commissioners will have any needed discussion and render a decision, and then that decision will be sent back to the planning department and then on to City Council.

A

Who will hear the request two more times before rendering the final decision. We do not have any minutes to bring forward, but we do have some old business first, it's our e ZN 1216 dash 2478.

A

This is a request for a text amendment to amend the text of the unified development ordinance or the you do in regards to section ten point, eight point: two certificate of occupancy and section ten point: eight point: one building permit mr. Herot. If you could give us any other information, sure.

B

What they, what we have asked to do is to change.

B

Section ten point: eight two and ten point: eight one and at this time I'd like to go ahead and bring up John Hudson, here's our director of inspections and codes and he's got a presentation for you. Thank you.

A

Morning, good morning, I.

C

Know we've met before I think I've got almost all your questions answered and be able to move forward. um Ideally, like I said when we mentioned about changing things in the you do and what's in the code, I'm kind of understood that it's more we're not changing the procedure. It's just changing those definitions, so the procedure for bihar vba everything is still going to be there. It's just the definition of what a building permit is and what a certificate of occupancy is will be defined like it is currently in the from the code.

C

The intent is to correct what we know have it's more succinct and that there's no conflict I've actually looked in my section I had in chapter 10, was called building permitting and then there's actually already a section and chapter 8, which is called building construction, so even within the uto itself, there's already things that are saying the same thing. So that's why you kind of see the explanation of the revisions that there's a lot of things for taking out.

C

But if you go to chapter 8, article 9, it's already there so I just want to go through. We've already talked to by against the purpose of a building construction. Is that section, and so that already exists in the you do and then two chapters later there's another section called building permitting, so the building construction- I really don't have it up and sign. The only thing I would want to take out is what's shown is underlined. Its interior finishes because, like we discussed in the last meeting, interior finishes are exempted from a permit.

C

So we want to take that line out.

C

And then to the answer, but ideally this is what I would prefer to read. So then we that everyone's okay, I put the rim required on there, because there is an opportunity for people to ask us or contact us to find out if it needs a permit. So I don't just want to say everything needs a permit, but it's when required, and the technical codes is what the codes that are in the columbus codes, that's what they referred to over there.

C

So that's the building codes encode electrical code, all that is referred to as technical code in there and then also the uniform codes act which, which is all of these books, which we enforce currently but, like I, said all of those all of their references are all in for Columbus code.

C

So in Section, eight article, nine, like I, said it already refers to things that are in chapter 10, the airport requirements and changes to the historical properties, the building permits for on-site sewage disposal.

C

All that's already there, like I, said chapter 10 building permitting, ideally like I, said I just want to repeal those two sections of that chapter and then all the pertinent info we did add, as you can see in your hand out there, that you also have the zoning verification and simultaneously the Middle's like I said my intent is not to remove the procedure of what the UDL tells us, how to do a building permit, but I just want the definition of a building permit to be taken out and then at the bottom, and they also proposed and definitions will be in chapter 8 of the Columbus hope so I know we had kind of a question of what what is what is a building permit, what's qualified as a permit, so me and my staff is sat down, we've kind of gone through the books.

C

What we typically have permitted in the past administrative leave, what we may not need to permit, so they fall into these four categories since either required work exempt from a permanent repairs and emergency repairs.

C

So this is directly from the 2012 IBC, any owner authorization who intends to construct enlarged, alter repair, move, demolisher change, the occupancy of a building or structure or to erect, install and large, also repair, remove a convert or replace any electrical gasps, mechanical or plumbing system. The installation which is regulated by this cold or to cause any work to be done so I'll first make an application to the building official and attain your fire permit. I know. Initially, we talked about the word altar and we didn't we reliable. Can we take altar out?

C

I went back to my staff and I said: hey you know, Kim! Is that something should look at and then once we talked, we were saying: no, because you can affect your egress and you can affect other things in the building without making structural all the relation alterations so say, the family dollar, on Veterans Parkway, all of a sudden wants become a daycare technically, it's structurally sufficient. The way it is now, but if they start putting different type of partitions in there, you affect your ignorance or if they put in walls, I mean I.

C

Go all the way up to the ceiling, and now you don't have a set egress path or a set exit to get out of that building. We'd have an issue so we'd like to look at that, so it wouldn't be a situation there. They I know. Initially, we said we were going to try to take out the word structural alterations and I. Just don't see a way that we can do that safely without running into other conflicts.

C

Like I said these is, and this is that other handouts, you have I'm kind of walking through some of those things that are currently that we would that are currently exempt. So I just want it. Does everyone understand? So if you paint your house your tile on your house, your carpeting, your house, there's just no need for a permit.

C

If you're doing County at work and cabinetry like I said we mentioned that you may need a plumbing permit based off if you're relocating your sinks and things like that, but you would need a building permit to do cabinet work, also temporary structures like it's a fair. If anybody comes to town is we don't permit temporary structures? Now who's got your kind of different now, because the state has instituted international swimming pool and spa code, and so now who's that are more than 24 feet.

C

Deep I mean 24 inches, even sorry, 24 inches deep would require a permit now, but that's a state law. So that's kind of where that one is swings and playground equipment. We don't. We don't require a permit and awnings coming off your windows. If you're supported by an exterior wall, we don't require a permit, so those things already exempt currently and then, as you see in the list that attach them with, you, is there's also electrical exemptions, mechanical exemptions and plumbing exemptions.

C

I just didn't want to go to all of those, but portable portable devices being plugged up and you're just working on repairs and what we would consider is ordinary repair.

C

Like I mentioned you last time, I came that people. Typically, if you reach engl, your rules will not a requirement permit, but it depends on. If you start getting into the structure, that's when we would want you to pull a permit to verify what you're doing so. We put such repairs to not include the cutting away of any wall, partition or portion thereof, or the removal of cutting of any structural beams, load-bearing support or the removal of change of any requirement means of egress and that's kind of where that alteration came in.

C

That's why we knew we couldn't just directly take out the word operation and then we put or the work affecting public health and general safety like I, said typically and commercial properties. We don't have the issues to issue more in the residential houses and people want to make alterations to their houses and make sure they're doing it safely and then obviously, emergency repair, something happens over the weekend next business day. You know, call us, let us know inspector to make sure it so far certificate of occupancy.

C

This is the one also that I'm looking to move over to the Columbus clothes, we're currently having issues with churches and nonprofits moving into properties and making them assembly spaces and they don't meet. The requirements of such we've got one that that's currently zoned in LMI and it's a church and that's not allowed at all, but we didn't know, we know we saw somebody working on the roof and we wouldn't call them and say: hey.

C

What's going on and they're just like will we're a church they've been there, like you know from over a year now and they're coming to finally come get a building permit now we're telling them hey. These are the things you need to be doing and because, typically, businesses that are nonprofit or churches don't need certificate of I expenses because they don't need a business license. They just say hey well. Well, do we want and I'm like you know, we need to. We need to change that.

C

So that's why you see kind of underlined in their business. Just like this change, your description change, because it was an existing property and they just moved in. They don't have the minimum acreage, they don't have the amount of off street parking, I mean they don't have any of that and we're just you know we're trying to kind of corral that so it doesn't get any worse.

C

So that's where that is, and this is technically already to know people like wire. You know you just all of a sudden coming in enforcing this. This is currently already in the you do that it is that it's that that this session is here, it should not be occupied to change maintenance e. It's already there and it's been made it's already there, but administrative leave.

C

We just have not pushed it against churches, but if you're assembling 40 50 people in a shotgun house there's going to be issues, so we just want to make sure that these properties are coming to us getting a certificate of occupancy, verifying it say our church and they're performing. You know that they're having service, which is fine, but if they're having us there would be considered an assembly space there for teams there certain parameters. They need me so and, like I said, we already mentioned about the temporary temporary CEO.

C

We already talked about that may be issues, so there is immense, it's not a hard facet is no, but they can apply to us to get to the partial. So in conclusion, I'd like to repeal article 89 chapter 10 of the you do and remove the conflicts that we have currently with the columbus code. All pertinent info that we mentioned about zoning and simultaneous was permit.

C

Submission will be moved to chapter 8, article, nine and then all the concerns of certificate of occupancy were meant to be mentioned only in the codes and then all set and proposed and definitions will be in chapter eight.

C

Any questions. Commissioners.

A

Are there any questions? Mr. Devlin.

D

Station I have a question on your emergency repairs section, and this made you see my lack of understanding of the process, but what you said about an emergency repairs. You've got to make it over the weekend. Just give us a call than that. The next business day doesn't sound quite the same as the permit application shall be submitted within the next working business. A well.

C

It's not to not to diminish it, but it's to understand that if something happens, if there's a storm or something in your carport fall in and you just you know- you just get two by four to hold it up, so you can get your permit all that kind of stuff. We understand that kind of work, so it will be used sparingly. It's not like. Oh I, have an emergency. Here's my permit the next day. So no it's more. It's more geared towards emergencies or or natural disasters.

C

Things like that, so we don't have a problem fleshing it out, but I. Just like I said: I've been working with City Attorney's Office but, like I said, I want to make sure I had to help blessing before we fully went in and started really working on it before I got too far down the road I.

A

Have a question: it's more procedural than anything. If you all be it through your ride, visor, what have you find out that someone's been in violation of one of these ordinances? Are they fine, correct.

C

Okay, so they're fine, and then they have the opportunity coming getting. We try to give them some type of time to say: hey.

A

The corrected you have some.

C

People who've never built anything wrong.

A

D

C

A sudden they're just building stuff on the house, and we allow them to come in, so we can sit down and talk to him, but we do have a few repeat offenders that can hope we don't catch them, so it just depends on the level of we've dealt with you before and firing. Thank.

A

You any other questions for the applicant from our Commissioner mr. Bollinger, and.

E

I to appreciate the power point in the presentation: I guess I still have a little bit of concern about the burden on our individual taxpayers and the wording in the document where it says ordinary minor repairs may be made with the approval of the building official without premier, and what that specifically states is. They has to come to the office to get approval, to do a minor repair and I understand the egress issue, but I think that also falls within the fire marshal's office.

E

If they change the egress, that would be a violation of the fire food and then likewise, on the emergency repair. You know if we had a storm on a thursday instead of calling their insurance company on friday, they have to come to the building permit office to get it from it and it just things things very burdensome and I understand the spirit of what you're doing and that's what we talked about last time.

E

But the spirit and the actual wording in the document are two different things, and if we change that wording that gives the opportunity to go very strictly by the wording and a court of law. That's what they would look at, not the spirit. They look the wording so now, I'm sure this is going to probably pass that I still have concern about the burden that we're placing on own individual homeowners.

A

Thank you any other comments or questions from the commissioners.

A

Do I hear a motion at this point.

A

F

I'm going to try to do this the right way a little bit regarding our e ven dashed. Well, that's 16 dash 2478, a request, a request for a text amendment to amend the text of the unified development ordinance. You do in regards to section 3.8 point2 certificate of occupancy in section 10 point 8.1 the building permit I move for approval with the concern stated by mr. Bollinger about the burdensome context of this okay and.

A

I have a second all, those in favor. Please raise your right hand on all of those posts, so we have four in favor and one opposed thank you. I would reshape them.

D

A

That brings us to our new business, which is zoning case, are easy: n 0, 1, 170 136. This is a request for a text amendment to amend the text of the unified development ordinance, the UDL in regards to adding an overlay district on Second Avenue from eighteenth street north to manchester expressway and 45th Street. This overlay will be created to promote and enhance the aesthetic qualities of the area. Mr. Harris thank.

B

You we have been asked and partially initiated by the city village plan to come back and take a look at an overlay ordinance on Second Avenue to make sure that we have a beautiful gateway that comes into the downtown area. What you guys have in front of you is a proposed new ordinance overlay district that will be between.

B

Manchester expressway 45th street all the way down to eighteenth Street, which is where the bridge starts on. Second, this will be 500 feet from the center line of second Avenue heading out, tip towards first street or first ave in there and third out of there.

B

It has a few things that will pretend to you in some, but it will not. It will not pretend to single-family residential homes. These are completely excluded from this overlay.

B

It keeps the sidewalks in the area the same as as required within the you do currently now in sections in chapter seven, article 10, which is a five-foot minimum, except for in along second avenue, between 30-50 3 and 38 street, that they will be no less than 8 feet in width, and that is the area that is was the downtown area of bib city, and so it automatically has that draw of the downtown, and we want to help it keep that feel and that's what the all the residents in that area had voiced back to us.

B

When we had two meetings out there talking about the proposed ordinance.

B

It changes some of the landscaping requirements we currently, I believe it is 22 density units whenever you're redoing when you're developing a parcel, because that is the urban area.

B

We talked about reducing it down to 10 tree dense, dense the units, so that way it gives it lends to more of urban feel, but it also allows them to use the space in which three which they have when you start getting into what is old, Dead City, you have older parcels that are smaller parcels, so they're, not they're, not what you're going to see a Columbus crossing which is kind of what that was designed for so we're trying to figure out a way to still keep the beautiful trees that we have and make sure there's enough greenery, but still allow for people to develop on their side.

B

The way they need to be able to develop on that side.

B

And just to talk about the parking a little bit, we have proposed that.

B

Parking be in the back if they can't, if they can't do the parking in the back of the development, then they can do what we've seen on veterans where they can put up a green shrubbery area or a berm that blocks basically the headlights from shooting out onto the road and have some parking out front. We've dropped some of the standards on it. So if you have parking up front your gross square feet of your, your parcel is 7501 to 25,000, then you're allowed to have ten percent up parking up front.

B

If you have 25 25 thousand and one to five thousand, you can have fifteen percent. Fifty fifty thousand or greater then fit dozen one in greater. You can have twenty percent up front, we're hoping that most of this upfront parking, if it's will, if it's needed, would be for a DA compliance so that you have people that are it has a handicapped Akande they can park up front, get to the front of the building and not have to walk around.

B

Signage we put in that we would like to see monuments ons, but also to add the shingle sons. So what you would normally see like you see it in Savannah, some where they have a son thats hanging off of their building, that's basically about 24 by 36 inches and has their name either on one side or the other I. Actually, both you can have it on both on this. That also lends to the feel of the area that it was an old downtown, especially in in the big city park.

B

And then we've added some things in there for building height, to give a 5 to 1 ratio, say that when you have single families, your butted up against commercials, but it up against single-family that it's that they have to push back a little bit as they're moving up so that there's not a shadow effect on that single-family resident. But also so the single family doesn't feel as though they're being if it was an apartment, complex that they're being looked over a fence in being stared down on by the people an apartment complex.

B

He adds a little bit more.

B

Killing a comfort for the current single-family residence that are there if something does go into Sodom.

B

The outside disposal and storage areas is reminiscent to all the other overlay districts that we have as well as the gas pump pollens you can see, we can see those on either the back or the sod of the retail so instead of having it at the front once this is pass, you can't put it at the front you can just put you can put it at the side kind of offset or you can put it in the back of back of the building. So the book building will be forward facing.

B

It allows for some variance in the architecture standards which we don't currently have in the you do, so this would fit architectural standards within the area of every way. This is reminiscent of some of the other over light districts that we have living materials. The color color of the building, the top of material that you can use on the building.

B

To have rooftop mechanical equipment, shielded or hidden away, so that you can't see it on the top.

B

Let's turn it over you guys, if you have any specific questions on it, I can go into more anytime before.

A

We go further. Let me say: I was remiss in the previous case they're not asking if there was anybody in the audience who want to speak for against it, but we have no one in the audience, except for one person and know why she's here so just wanted to put that on the record. I did not ask for that. So back to this one commissioners, any questions for mr. Harris, mr. deadly I had.

D

31, can you tell us a little more about the opinions expressed from the two public meetings and how those are reflected sure.

B

In the public meeting, what we did was we did some design layout for him to talk about and gave them a draft of what we were putting together.

B

We wanted to make sure that we kept the awesome character and feel that it currently has, but also you give them the ability to make it their own, and so we gave them we talked about. Was there anything about the sidewalk? So if they want changes, they want to change the top of work of the sidewalk. Did they want to have vegetated strips between the curb cuts between the curb and the sidewalk, and they did, and so we added that in we talked about the tree height.

B

If there are trees required, trees like in the TD use do a quad trees to go in. How do you want those trees? Do you want them? 30 feet high view within 20 feet high. You want a certain tree type that you want to put in, so they came back and said the using the tree types that we currently have in there would be fine. They wanted it about a 20-foot high tree and we do have on the right hand, side if you're going south on Second Avenue.

B

You do have the power lines that are there, and so we have to worry about that. Can you put something in it's not going to be trimmed by georgia power? That's going to because we want to beautify the area.

B

Then we will talk about the sidewalk where it's and that's where the eight-foot came within the bib city area, and then they were happy with the type of styles of being able to put in metal brick. You know the glass being up so that a developer can make something look very appealing, but also here to some of the older structures that are there.

D

Thank you second question: why is the intersection of second Avenue and forty-second Street, our 42nd Street, not included in the focus areas? One of the bedrooms recalled that is.

B

B

Commercial, like area, and those does couple areas were not they weren't included in it, but they're not called out as specific zones. So they're not interest areas because one, it's not a, cannot a complete cross section where you have one road that is running all the way across and joining up on.

B

The other side of second, so it'd be really hard for us to come in there and say here's what you have to do and it is in a low cut in in the there's a hill on either side of it, and so we were, we don't want to do- is cause how to make a problem where there's a sight distance problem when you're working with all that infrastructure.

D

And then my third question is the list of purposes of the section starts out by saying provides for an entrance that displays our textile manufacturing beginnings. I, don't see anything in here. That specifically does. That is the assumption that this will allow for some future decision to display the residual history. It.

B

Was a way to add in just preamble to this? This is what the area has grown up as and that we want to make sure they we recognize that and that it is a gateway into Columbus.

D

A

Other questions for mr. hare it from the commissioner mr. Bollinger, oh.

E

Yes under signage, it specifically states, monument and shingled, and I believe I've read through this pretty comprehensively, but I did not see anything in here about billboards. They.

B

Are prohibited on second, mr.

A

E

So is that under a different overlay, those.

B

Inside the you do, okay, very good. Thank you. Thank.

A

You any other questions for mr. Harrow from the commissioners. Mr. Greenblatt just.

F

A point of interest- I guess for me- I've- been noting for the drive-throughs I guess for restaurants or banks, or whatever else you're trying to do that as a shielding. You want to use on the side of the rear of the building correct. Yes, what if that is not possible? I know that you said there needs to be some type of hedge.

B

Work with them, okay,.

F

Yeah and the reason I ask is the chick to lay out on beaver run road that was one where they actually made them drive it below grade level. But you know: 300 yards across the street. You've got a Hardee's there, that's right up there in front and you can see the drive-through and everything.

F

It seems to me that we're putting a little bit of undue stress and I understand it that hard each is outside the overlay and chicken fillets under the overlays, but gets in the same general area and I think that's just kind of inconsistent.

A

F

And it just bothers me for business, develop my guess my question. Mr.

A

G

And one reason we put these overlays in chapter 2 of the unified development ordinance is because you can go, get a variance from the board Zoning Appeals, which is exactly what chick-fil-a did that's and, of course, as you said, you were on the highway 80 overlay committee.

G

They dropped it below the road right which a great as far as Hardy's goes. We did have some issues, especially with the menu board, because it did not make the overlake whether they went to the board zoning appeals or not. I, do not recall, but.

F

Then again, right across the street, you've got the Windies, which is the exact same thing. Then.

G

Whip, of course, Whitney's is pre.

F

/ le, but that's my point that you know you've got an inconsistency there within a very tight-knit area and I think that you know we just need to be aware and I think there's some of these things. You know you put a little bit of overburden on on some.

A

F

A

Can you hang on one sec? Do you hear that is that people yelling or we just have somebody sounds.

G

Like it's in the back home check it okay.

A

I just wanted sorry go ahead: okay, but.

F

Just a little bit of you know, overburden all some business owners and not on us I guess is, is the point I'm trying to make there and not that it it's a game changer, but it is a point of interest for myself. Well,.

G

And chick plays a great example out there on Bieber run, they came in with their game plan. They came in knowing exactly what the overlay said, knowing what they couldn't meet and they did apply for three variances, but they mitigated everything they showed that they had a true hardship. That's why we put it in chapter 2 so that you do have some relief. If you can't accomplish something one of the hard ones is the gas tank you know having them in the rear having them on the side.

G

Any gas station that you deal with will tell you. They want to be able to see the pumps, they want see who's out there for security reasons, and sometimes the layout of the property is not conducive to having them in the side of the rear. So we know it has challenges. Most of these overlays were created for undeveloped stretches of roadway.

G

The only two that are really urban is second Avenue. If approved and victory drive and victory job, we have had some.

F

And that brings me to one other question about signage, that mr. Bollinger brought up I, understand the concept of the smaller signs and and the monument signs, but then you've got a gas station there. That has a you know: 12 14, 18, foot awning that has marathon or whatever posted on it in neon. How do we address that? Or is that just something we have to deal with owning.

G

Signs things like that that goes back to the you. Do, that's just something we have to deal with. Okay, I, don't know they can exist on Kevin, owning signs, I believe they are on I. Think that they're, the only only group that has purview over an awning sign, for instance, is Doug town facade board. Yes, everywhere else, I think it's an exempt fine. Okay, clarification.

F

Thank you. Yes, sir Thank.

A

You mr. Johnson any other questions, commissioners for mr. Harrod or mr. Johnson. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak for this amendment of this rezoning you'll come forward and state your name and address, and please give us your information I'm.

H

Lea black stem 125 almond ridge, dr forts and George's I, have been a part of a grassroots effort to clean up second M&E and just before I start. How many of you are happy and feel good about what you see when you get off the North bypass and between that and between the time and hit the bridge by tsys coming downtown or anybody. That's really happy with that. Ok, so the I know, I've met a lot with Kevin and Rick and so forth, and we've gone through these so I.

H

Just one of the last things that was added is keeping the beautification historic character, absolutely love the corner at 38, Street, the lights and and doing things there to keep it a love several of those homes coming down. You know coming on Second Avenue, but a lot of those have extreme deferred maintenance. There's not landscaping, there's not really anything. So we want to make sure that there is some bite in this.

H

There is something that will have a lasting impact on the overlay that will result in Columbus Georgia having a nice gateway, beautiful coming from the North bypass down to our Uptown area.

H

So just the biggest things for our group and I sat down like I said with Rick and Kevin they've worked hard on this Ken Hinton son, Dorothy, McDaniel and myself sat down and went through everything on this ordinance and then I sat down later with this group and and went through it the biggest thing, just the T to use and really trying to make sure that there are not variances on Second Avenue.

H

If someone has a site and they have to put X number of trees on this property X number of bushes, we don't want to see it on the back street. We want to see it on Second Avenue, so I really encourage. One of the things we asked was that that has to go to counsel and I certainly understand Rick's concern that was expressed and and we'll and Kevin that you're getting caught up in a lot of politics to go to there.

H

Maybe it's better to stay with the city, but I would like to see something say: we're not deviating from the amount of trees and maybe even say how many trees you have to have there just don't go spread it on the rest of the site. We want this area to look good and want to be proud of it long term. So that's a concern. The next concern Michael. You mention this about the big signs we would like to know on the monument signs and on my meeting early January I asked Rick, that's Clifton.

H

Is there any way this was Ken, Henson's idea? Who is an attorney? We canwe sunset these big signs on Second Avenue, so that X number of times years from now not necessarily debate tomorrow, not trying to do it in a year. But could there be a provision that, even if it's you know 10 2026, could we do that so that in so you know at a certain date? We know that these things are all taking care of it.

H

There would be no Cole signs and when the monument signs would be something really nice, there I share your concern about the pump islands and what that looks like, and that would be nice to deal with and then the 42nd Street I know that was asked by you James that that is a diagonal street and it's not a true intersection and that's why they felt like you can't most all of these are dealing with square. Why and that's why we couldn't work with it.

H

So you know the the curb cuts will be dealt with by G ot. We were concerned that you didn't get more of those and we're really just concerned about the landscape and what the buildings look like, believe it or not. There's there's a small temporary structure that was put up, I call it a circus tent at a place at a tire store on second nominee and over a year ago, since eighteen months ago, maybe longer sent it to the city, there's nothing. We could do about it. Those kind of things would be covered in this.

H

You do they would have to be approved by the city and just want to make sure when those houses, although the houses are excluded from this, that's why they're being used as a single family residence. So at the point someone wants to put a small business in there correct me if I'm wrong, they have to go through this ordinance because they're going to have a commercial business license. Yes,.

B

When it changes from single-family to commercial or maybe a commercial, then it will okay.

H

And so that's that's what we want to to protect and then, lastly, just the buffer stick, we asked about there not being any parking on the city right away or within the five foot landscape buffer. Looking at this, you do it says if I foot setback back, not a five foot buffer. We might want to look at that terminology just if someone has to stay off their building five feet. What can they do in that? That five feet is? Does that mean I can have a driveway? Does that mean I can have anything?

H

Or does it mean there is grass and the five foot that they own, not the city right away and then other than that? We're we're very excited to see this come to fruition, we've been pushing for it over 18 months and I'm just come in the city staff. To kind of put this together, get it expedited for approval before we end up with a metal building asking to come on Second Avenue. Thank you, commissioners.

A

Do any of you have any questions or comments for mrs. Franklin, okay,.

I

A

You so do I, hear a motion, or is there any other discussion that you all would like to have regarding this?

A

Okay, do I have anybody that would like to make a motion? Mr. Etheridge.

I

See how we basically want to say this that we've got in case of our easy n dash 0 1 dash 170 136 I, move approval of a request for a text amendment to amend the text of the unified development ordinance in regards to adding an overlay district on Second Avenue from eighteenth street north to manchester expressway or 45th story. This overlay will be used for moat, enhanced, aesthetic qualities of area and it's subject in to the details that are Pitman spotted to us in the Bible playing the wall. Thank.

A

You, mr. a finish to run a second mr. Greenblatt, his second all those in favor. Please raise your right hand. It is you Nana, so we will go ahead and send that on to Council for approval, and that is all that we have today. In terms of our cases, I would like to remind you that our next meeting is scheduled for februari the 15th. Mr. Herot. Is there any other information that I need to bring forward.

B

We will be having GPA fall conference I believe that is going to be August or sep tember will I was.

A

Thinking is that the temperament I could be wrong.

D

B

Haven't announced it yet on that.

F

A

B

We're hosting it we have created some of the information you.

G

Yeah Georgia, the 2017 annual conference of the Georgia Planning Association, will be held here at the trade center and the marriott will be the conference hotel they've been here over here over 5 and over here in 2012. Again we extend the same invitation to you all that we have in the past.

G

We will pay your registration fee for those of you to work. Downtown it'll, be real. Convenient will get you your agenda and whatnot in your packages. So just let us know if you're willing to attend, and that does include all the fun functions that we do in the evening. So Dean.

A

Do you know the date or is that September.

G

27Th to sep tember 29th, we really want a big crowds, show off what we've done here: beard wine festivals on Saturday, the thirtieth, so we're going to stick around for the weekend, as well as the Uptown concert series, so we're playing an old meeting for those three days and hoping they stay and enjoy it for the rest of the weekend. That's.

A

Great, thank you will for that information and we'll make sure that we pass this along amongst us with the agenda and everything I do want to encourage you, commissioners, to put this on your calendar. I know you don't have much information right now, but this is a service that that the planning department is willing to give us an opportunity to learn a little bit more about what they do and what we do so I hope that you'll at least block that on your calendar for now anything else, no, sir, we are adjourned. Thank you.