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B
Hey
quit
mom.
My
name
is
some
Cam
Cameron.
My
address
is
7512
morning
marsh
trail
or
Penna.
Moss,
City,
Beach,
Florida
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
this
morning,
as
will
stated,
seeking
the
Oro
designation
from
a
SF
far
to
I'll
be
brief.
Basically,
what
I
want
to
do
is
this
build
two
apartment
buildings
for
a
total
of
48
units.
B
This
is
a
property
on
armored
road
that
has
recently
gone
up
called
the
the
legends
at
Armour.
This
is
similar
to
what
I'm
proposing
it's
a
think.
These
guys
did
a
fantastic
job
and
when
I
say
similar
to
theirs,
I
just
made
more
than
the
building
style,
there
I
think
they're,
probably
maybe
a
little
bit
bigger
and
they
have
four
units
out
there.
There
are
four
buildings.
B
My
next-door
neighbor
is
Hidden
Lake
condos,
which
is
also
zoned
or
so
I
think
I'm
the
following
being
relatively
consistent
with
with.
What's
there
there's
several
other
properties
on
the
street
that
are
multi-family,
it's
just
they
it's
the
area's
changed
I'm
a
little
bit
in
the
same
boat
that
mr.
wells
was
in
truthfully.
There's
there's
no
market
for
single-family
housing
right
there,
unfortunately
I
mean
it's
been
listed
forever.
It's
a
fantastic
price
for
building
Lots
and
I
can't
get
any
takers
I'm
a
builder
I
can't
make
it
work.
It's
just
really.
B
B
You
know
raised
a
lot
of
red
flags
with
people
I'm
not
looking
to
do
anything
like
that.
I
just
just
want
to
do
some
nice
apartment
buildings
and
I
think
there's
a
there's,
a
need
for
it.
I
really
believe
the
majority
of
the
the
buildings
will
be
housed
with
with
CSU
students
and
I'll
I'll.
Leave
it
there
and
just
answer
any
questions
you
guys
may
have.
A
C
My
name
is
Nancy
Schroeder
2525,
Norris,
Road
apartment
117,
Columbus
Georgia
I
may
read
a
note
that
I've
written
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
Hidden
Lake
condominium
homeowners
association
I,
am
here
to
file
an
objection
to
the
requested.
Zoning
change
to
are
the
basis
for
our
objection
is
that
our
Oh
appears
to
allow
an
extremely
high
density.
C
Maximum
high
density
as
high
as
43
units
per
acre
since
the
property
is
being
reviewed,
is
3.59
acres
that
could
allow
a
possible
153
units
to
be
built
in
the
future.
If
the
current
plans
don't
materialize,
mr
cameron
has
stated
that
he
intends
to
build
a
maximum
of
48
units
on
the
site.
We
do
not
object
to
that
proposed
plan
and
actually
favor
the
possibility
of
responsible
development
next
to
our
community,
as
we've
had
problems
with
homeless
folks,
camping
on
that
the
vacant
property
for
the
last
several
years.
C
We
do
object
to
the
high
density
of
our
own
and
believe
that
one
of
the
lower
density,
multifamily
designations
would
better
suit
the
neighborhood.
If
the
RO
designation
does
get
approved,
we
request
that
it
be
a
restriction
added
to
limit
the
number
of
units
to
48.
Hidden
Lake
condominiums
is
clearly
a
multi-family
community.
However,
our
98
units
are
mostly
privately
owned
and
occupied
by
the
owners.
Only
14%
of
our
community
is
comprised
of
owners
who
lease
their
units
on
the
open
market.
The
other
properties
near
Mr,
Cameron's
lots
are
single-family.
C
D
A
F
Good
morning
my
name
is
Nikki
Kaye
I'm,
a
relatively
new
resident
at
20,
27,
22,
Barbara
Avenue.
The
appeal
to
barbara
avenue,
which
abuts
the
property
that
we're
talking
about
is
that
it's
a
green
space
I
moved
down
here
from
North
Carolina.
As
you
know,
one
of
the
most
beautiful
places
in
the
world
in
the
area
of
Western
Carolina,
where
Green
was
very
important
to
us.
F
It's
still
important
to
us,
which
is
why
we
bought
where
we
did
on
barbara
Avenue
I've
spoken
to
every
property
owner
owner,
not
renter
property
owners,
some
of
them
over
50
years.
You
all
know
mr.
Adams
from
farm.
He
lives
on
blogger
Avenue.
It's
gonna
affect
his
property.
He
doesn't
want
it
and
I'm
speaking
for
him.
I
have
a
signature
of
everybody
that
the
property
is
a
budding.
F
The
property
that
exists
there
today
is
an
indication
of
where
the
property
is
going
or
how
the
property
is
going
to
be
treated
later.
It
is
a
dumping
ground
for
people
who
are
doing
drugs.
If
you
care
about
the
property
you
own
take
care
of
it,
it's
not
being
taken
care
of.
If
he
owns
this
property,
he
needs
to
respect
the
people
that
his
property
is
a
budding.
It's
very
disrespectful.
F
There
are
people
doing
drugs
right
behind
our
property.
This
is
a
neighborhood.
This
is
a
neighborhood
where
people
have
lived
raised,
their
children
sent
them
to
school.
They're
invested
50
years,
some
of
them
and
they
have
been
disrespected.
Somebody
from
Florida
can
come
up
here
and
just
change
and
open
up
make
things
the
way
they
want
to
for
an
investment
but
they're
not
taking
care
of.
What's
there
now
you
could
sell
that
property
as
single-family.
If
you
cleaned
it
up,
it
would
be
very
desirable.
F
We
value
our
neighborhood,
it's
a
beautiful
quiet,
neighborhood
we'd
like
to
keep
it
that
way.
I
don't
want
a
two-story
building
behind
me.
Looking
into
my
private
backyard,
it's
a
lovely
backyard.
I've
worked
hard
to
make
it
a
home
and
every
one
of
you
would
feel
the
same
way
if
you
knew
what
I
was
talking
about
come
by.
Take
a
look
at
the
lovely
homes
in
on
barbara
avenue,.
F
Don't
know
what
the
impact
of
the
schools
are.
I
heard
what
you
said
about
the
impact
of
the
schools
and
the
traffic
I
find
that
difficult
to
understand.
48
more
renters
see
us
you,
people
are
not
homeowners.
These
are
kids,
they're
partiers,
we're
talking
about
temporary
transient
situation,
I,
don't
know
what
the
impact
will
be
on
the
schools.
F
I,
don't
know
what
the
impact
will
be
on
thee
on
the
roads,
but
I
do
know
right
now
that
the
way
the
roads
are
constructed
and
our
North
North
Avenue,
particularly
or
nor
is
it
north
Drive
in
particular,
I-
have
a
Honda
Pilot
that
takes
up
that
whole
Lane.
If
there's
another
trucker
vehicle
coming
the
other
way,
there's
no
place
to
go,
those
roads
need
to
be
fixed.
F
They
don't
need
to
be
burdened
more,
but
we
need
to.
We
have
a
city
planner
that
we
hire
to
plan
a
community
there's
a
reason.
We
have
a
city
planner.
We
need
to
pay
attention
to
what
the
plan
was
originally,
why
we
want
to
start
changing
things.
It's
because
somebody
comes
in
here
from
Florida
and
says:
I
have
a
better
idea
to
use
my
property
and
I
can
make
some
money.
No,
this
is
a
community.
This
is
our
home
and
we
need
to.
We
need
to
protect
what
we've
invested
in.
Thank
you
very
much.
I.
A
G
G
G
These
trees,
there's
there's
sweet
gum,
trees,
there's
oak
trees,
there's
pine
trees
and
they're
a
majority
of
our
100
to
200
feet
tall,
and
it
would
be
a
shame
and
they've
got
to
be
a
couple
50
to
75
years
old,
for
those
trees
to
come
down
would
be,
would
be
a
shame
and
just
be
a
crime.
That's
all
I've
got
Thank.
A
H
My
name
is
Lauren
Locklear
I
live
at
2714,
Barbara
Avenue,
it's
a
double
lot,
so
much
2714
and
2704.
The
entirety
of
my
backyard
comes
up
against
this
lot.
That's
in
question
with
her
rezoning.
The
reason
that
we
moved
into
this
area
four
years
ago
was
because
it
was
very
similar
to
where
my
husband
grew
up
and
to
the
neighborhood,
where
his
grandmother
lives,
which
is
all
single
family.
She
lives
in
Hilton,
Heights.
His
parents
live
in
Mahina
woods.
H
The
draw
was
that
it
was
all
single-family
and
that
when
we
came
and
saw
the
neighborhood,
we
saw
people
who
his
parents
knew
had
lived
there
forever,
who
his
parents
had
gone
to
school
with
it's
an
established
neighborhood
with
people
who
are
proud
of
their
yards,
who
are
proud
of
their
homes
and
are
proud
of
being
a
community
together,
we
could
stand
out
in
the
yard
and
check
the
mail
and
five
people
will
come
by
or
wave
and
say
hello.
It's
a
it
was
a
safe
place.
H
The
only
place
near
my
house,
that
is
a
rental
right
now,
is
across
the
street,
but
it
has
stayed
rented
full
time
with
people
who
are
there
for
the
long
term.
We
do
not
have
people
that
move
in
and
out
within
a
school
year,
I'm
concerned
about
the
fact
that
it
may
be
College
housing
I
was
a
college
student
and
I'm
ashamed
to
admit.
I
didn't
take
very
good
care
of
the
property
around
me
and
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
it.
H
Our
neighborhood
right
now
has
a
lot
of
respect
for
people
and
their
property.
We
have
a
very
low
crime
rate,
even
with
what's
going
on
in
the
back
with
the
drug
use
and
the
homelessness
we
protect
ourselves
on
our
street
I'm
concerned
about
that
lot
being
cleared.
We
have
a
lot
of
animals
that
you
can
hear
back
there
at
night.
We've
heard
it
talked
about
the
green
space,
but
there
there's
a
lot
that
hasn't
been
talked
about,
and
it's
just
the
feeling
you
get
on
that
street.
H
If
apartment
complexes
are
built
there,
people
will
not
come
into
this
area
single-family,
and
this
this
neighborhood,
that
is
kind
of
a
hidden
gem
off
of
Edgewood
will
not
be
the
same
any
longer
and
you
will
not
have
people
wanting
to
move
in
when
the
people
who
have
lived
there
50
years
30
years
in
the
same
home
no
longer
are
there
anymore.
The
whole
neighborhood
is
going
to
go
downhill
is
my
concern
and
then
there's
also
the
concern
of
safety.
H
Having
that
many
people
who
are
not
permanent
residents
living
behind
where
I
am
choosing
to
grow
a
family
I'm
concerned
about
what
kind
of
element
would
be
moving
in.
We
already
know
that
there
are
some
shootings
and
some
of
the
college
apartment
complexes.
There
was
the
one
on
off
a
university
near
Mahina
woods
where
they
had
the
the
police
shooting
with
people
running
through
there
with
drugs
and
everything.
So
my
concern
is
safety.
My
concern
is
the
downfall
of
the
neighborhood.
If
this
is
resumed.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
Name
is
Betty
Louis
I
live
at
25,
25,
North,
Road
apartment,
103,
I
live
in
Hidden
Lakes,
and
no
one
really
addressed
the
traffic
patterns
Norris
Road,
which
is
where
the
apartment
complex.
We
boo
will
be
built
on
intersects,
Edgewood,
Drive
and
making
Road
traffic.
There
is
horrendous
at
rush
hour
and
especially
during
school
time
again
as
part
of
the
board.
I,
don't
personally
object
to
a
part
of
a
complex
there,
but
I
would
really
like
to
urge
you
guys
to
put
a
limit
on
how
many
people
could
be
there.
I
B
Hey
if
I
could
just
mention
a
couple
of
quick
things
that
I
know
these
rezoning,
so
they
they
they're
emotional
I,
get
it
I
just
want
you
guys
to
understand.
Yes,
I
live
in
Florida
right
now,
I
went
for
an
opportunity
for
a
couple
years:
I
just
moved
from
Columbus.
Last
year,
I've
been
at
Columbus
for
the
last
12
years.
There
was
an
opportunity
for
me:
I
took
it.
I
have
every
intention
of
coming
back
so
I'm,
not
just
some
guy
from
Florida.
That's
that's.
That's
shown
up
here
to
to
recapping.
So
let.
J
B
J
J
E
J
E
B
Couple
other
things:
hey,
I'm,
a
runner,
so
I
don't
feel
like
a
transient.
Ok,
so
I
I,
just
I,
don't
like
that
term,
but
nothing
wrong
with
written
written
property.
I
think
that's
truthfully!
I
think
that's
a
little
bit
more
of
the
future.
You
know
that
the
the
being
a
home
ownership
is
just
gonna.
It's
going
to
drop
over
time
and,
and
so
and
me
is
a
runner
hey,
you
know,
I
still
take
care
of
my
property
apologize
to
the
to
the
residence.
I
did
not
know
it
that
there
was.
B
Ok,
ok,
okay,
what?
When
I,
when
I
found
out
when
somebody
called
me
from
Hidden
Lakes
I
immediately
called
the
police
I
have
never
received
a
call
from
a
police
officer.
Ever
there
was
there
was
a
former
police
officer,
Hidden
Lakes.
He
called
me
that's
the
day.
I
made
the
call
because
he
couldn't
do
anything
about
it.
So
I
I
don't
want
I,
don't
want
drug
users
on
my
property
in
their
backyard.
I!
Don't
want
that
either
I!
It's
just
I'm,
not
I,
just
wanna
throw
that
out
there
that.
B
Thank
you,
this
just
hey
last
night,
I
am
I,
am
perfectly
fine,
with
with
putting
a
condition
that
it
can
only
be
48
units
also
that
I
have
I'm
trying
to
be
transparent.
No,
you
know
I'm
not
trying
to
hide
anything
get
this
through
and
then
you
know
build
150
unit
tests.
This
is
my
plan.
48
units
up
I,
think
I'm.
Okay,
that
condition
all.
A
K
K
K
B
J
K
Door
is
20
feet
from
the
property
line
so
having
a
garbage
unit
20
feet
beyond
that,
it's
probably
not
going
to
be.
It's
not
gonna
work
for
us.
You
know,
I,
don't
want
to
put
down
anything
at
Hidden,
Lakes
or
anything
like
that,
but
they're
garbage
inna
stinks.
Sometimes
we
can
smell
it
from
our
property
and
we
would
prefer
not
to
have
another
garbage
unit
that
close
to
our
our
back
door
and
that's
the
back
door
that
we
use
every
day.
So
that's
the
only
question
that
thank.
A
L
Good
morning
my
name
is
Francesca
panto
and
I
live
at
2806,
barbara
Avenue
I.
Think
one
of
the
main
things
that
hasn't
been
addressed
is
the
schools.
I
know
we
talked
about
wouldn't
impact
the
schools
because
they
may
or
may
not
be
college
students
which
isn't
guaranteed.
There's
dozens
of
children
that
walk
up
Edgewood
and
down
Norris
from
school.
Increasing
traffic
would
be
extremely
unsafe.
These
children,
especially
given
there,
is
not
adequate
sidewalks
anyhow
so
I
like
that
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
L
I,
don't
think
it's
necessary
to
have
any
sort
of
apartment,
complex,
especially
geared
towards
CSU
students,
seeing
as
how
they
have
ample
amount
of
housing
and
his
example
was
a
new
apartment
complex
on
Armour
Road,
which
is
very
close
to
C,
as
you
so
I,
don't
think
that's
necessary
either
with
the
statement
about
no
one's
buying
single-family
homes,
we're
technically
considered
the
Midtown
area.
Kind
of
on
the
outskirts.
L
Houses
in
Midtown
are
going
so
quick
that
they're
only
on
the
market
for
a
week,
so
I
find
that
hard
to
believe
that
single
family
homes
wouldn't
sell
in
that
area
and
they're
actually
looking
for
homes
under
the
$200,000
range.
So
as
a
developer,
why
would
you
not
just
build
homes
there
and
then
sell
them?
It
is
in
my
backyard,
a
little
catty
corner
to
where
the
lots
are.
It
would
be
an
extreme
disruption
to
have
the
development
even
built.
Let
alone
exist,
norris
roads,
a
two-lane
road.
L
A
M
Name
is
Barbara,
Corson
I
live
at
2700,
Barbara
Avenue,
and
this
property
is
right
behind
my
house
and
aside
from
the
fact
that
I
loved
woods
already
they've
cleared
some
of
that
area
and
I
can
actually
see
cars
going
back
and
forth
down.
Norris
road
already,
that's
you've
heard
that
before.
But
you
haven't
heard
that
Barbara
Avenue
area
is
a
dead-end
area.
We
can
only
get
out
of
barbara
Avenue
on
to
Edgewood
road
and
then
East
Lindsey
Edgewood
Road.
M
So
it's
already
very
difficult
for
us
to
get
out,
especially
on
school
mornings,
because
cars
are
going
both
directions
on
Edgewood
Road,
you
add
a
lot
more
cars
going
and
people
taking
children
to
school
it
will
be
impossible
to
get
out
of
our
street.
My
other
objection
is
that
in
looking
at
this
plat.
N
M
Anyway,
I
don't
see,
ivy
I
see
very
little
green
space
and
we
we
enjoy
our
back
yard
I.
Do
a
lot
of
gardening
and
I
do
not
want
my
backyard
to
be
looked
down
upon
by
high-rise
apartment
buildings.
But
aside
from
that,
my
backyard
would
abut
this
apartment.
Complex
and
I
can
just
envision
students
going
through
my
yard
to
get
a
shortcut
to
Club,
View
and
research,
which
has
happened
before
and
so
I
really
object
on
that
grounds.
M
A
O
Good
morning
my
name
is
Jane
McCamey
I'm
at
27:46,
barber
Avenue
I
sent
a
an
email
to
mr.
Johnson's
office
and
I
believe
he
got
a
copy
to
you.
So
I
won't
go
over
that,
but
I
want
to
just
reiterate,
don't
know,
reiterations
and
I,
don't
think
it's
been
said
out
loud
here
this
morning,
I'm
worried
about
the
elevation
of
the
proposed
zoning
area
versus
us
down
hill.
O
G
O
E
From
the
property
line
on
his
property,
I
mean
that's
primarily.
What
he's
buffering
to
the
south
again
is
Hidden
Lakes
into
the
north,
there's
more
vacant
property
on
Marsh
Road.
So
most
of
what
you
see
is
the
buffer
notices
a
site
plan
right.
It's
not
anything!
That's
going
any
further
than
this
process.
Yet,
okay,.
A
Or
if
there's
any
questions
for
all
of
those
that
are
in
the
audience,
I
want
to
make
sure
you
understand.
We
do
respect
your
opinion,
so
so
the
week,
though,
the
commissioners
can
get
a
count
of
all
those
that
are
in
opposition
to
this,
would
you
prefer
straight
your
hand?
Please,
okay,
thank
you
all
right,
commissioners.
Any
other
discussion.
D
E
Slot
has
to
be
ten
thousand
square
feet.
Okay,
if
you
put
a
road
in,
it's
got
to
be
a
60-foot
ride,
away,
which
and
a
coldest
Act
which
really
wipes
out
the
SFR
to.
Of
course,
you
could
go
for
something
denser,
such
as
a
three
or
four,
but
as
far
as
running
you
know,
50-foot
Lots
off
of
Norris
Houston
came
a
few
years
ago,
and
did
that
got
a
variance
to
have
to
50-foot,
Lots
and
I.
Don't
know
if
his
focus
is
in
Harris
County
right
now,
but
they're
still
sitting
there
vacant.
M
My
name
is
Barbra
cause
they
and
I
live
at
2700
barber
Avenue
directly
behind
this
property
and
I
didn't
think
until
Jane
mentioned
the
drainage,
but
right
on
the
between
our
property
and
Lauren's
property
is
a
drainage.
Ditch
that
Underhill
mr.
Underhill,
who
used
to
own
that
property
had
dug
to
drain.
He
used
to
have
a
Scuppernong
Arbor
back
there
orchard
by
what
have
you
called
it
and
it
drained
water
from
that
which
comes
down
when
heavy
rains
gets
really
high
and
it
goes
into
the
sewer
right
on
the
edge
of
our
property.
M
A
E
A
D
All
right,
for
the
sake
of
making
it
clear
whether
something's
gonna
happen
or
not,
I'm
gonna
make
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
for
discussion,
and
then
we
can
vote
on
it.
One
way
or
the
other
I
move
that
in
the
case
of
our
ez
n0
6
1
9
5
9
0
4,
request
to
rezone
3.59
acres
located
along
Norris
Road
from
SFR
to
ro
I,
move
that
we
approve
it,
but
with
the
condition
that
there
is
a
60-foot
buffer
on
the
west
side,
undisturbed,
60-foot
buffer
and
a
limit
of
48.
K
A
I
A
O
E
E
E
J
E
Under
new
business,
there's
no
meeting
scheduled
for
August
7th,
the
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
August
21st
2019.
Also-
and
it's
not
listed
on
here-
I
think
everybody
here-
staff
wise,
including
Mike
and
Bruce-
have
a
conflict
on
October
16th.
So
we
were
gonna.
Ask
you
all
if
we
could
move
that
meeting
to
October
23rd
if
it
ends
up
being
necessary.