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A
There's
so
many
stories
and
so
much
information
that
come
out
of
this
school
and
this
isn't
the
only
School
in
Muskogee
County.
So
if
you
want
to
help
with
the
youth
I
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
some
of
our
underprivileged
schools.
So
let
me
change.
Hats
is
dr.
Edmunds
didn't
still
with
us,
I
didn't
Sam,
but
he
was
with
us
earlier
another
school
board
member.
A
So
let
me
put
on
my
hat
of
NeighborWorks
Columbus
and
talk
to
you
very
specifically
about
some
of
the
work,
we're
doing
here,
a
new
program
and
then
some
opportunities
for
changing
the
paradigm
on
funding
these
type
of
challenges
in
our
community.
So
first
of
all,
NeighborWorks
Columbus
actually
was
birthed
out
of
the
very
first
good,
bad
and
ugly
tour
in
1997
I
was
with
the
Greater
Columbus
Home
Builders
Association.
We
did
exactly
this
22
years
ago.
A
Then
we
spent
a
year
and
a
half
studying
the
issue
of
substandard
housing
and
the
availability
of
affordable
housing
and
from
that
came
NeighborWorks
Columbus.
So
it's
nice
to
see
this
circle
closed
a
little
bit,
but
I
wish
it
could
be
done
with
a
little
bit
better
news,
so
20
for
the
last
20
years
that
we've
been
producing
housing,
we're
Hauser's
and
we
do
multifamily
as
you've
seen,
but
our
Genesis,
our
heart
is
in
single-family
because
we
don't
think
families
want
to
raise
their
children.
A
A
The
next
one
is
kind
of
what
we
call
the
the
the
lower
middle
class
of
our
community,
where
there's
over
7,000
unit
gap
between
what's
available
and
what's
affordable,
and
what
do
I
mean
by
that?
If
you
are
paying
any
more
than
30%
of
your
income
towards
your
housing,
you
were
deemed
cost
burden,
I,
don't
care
how
much
money
you
make
it
doesn't
matter
if
you're
paying
more
than
30%
of
your
income
to
housing
costs
than
you
are
cost
burdened.
A
What
we
see
on
the
lower-income
scales
is
that
number
becomes
drum
a
dramatic
gap
and
that
impact
is
profound
because,
if
you're
working
minimum
wage
we
heard
this
morning,
that's
not
going
to
cover
the
cost
of
a
one-bedroom
apartment
anywhere
in
this
country,
and
Columbus
isn't
unique.
It's
also
in
Columbus.
So
when
you
make
when
you
pay
over
30%,
you
have
to
make
very
difficult
decisions
every
day
like
what
do
you
feed
your
children
and
sometimes
how
do
you
feed
your
children
like?
A
You're
not
doing
any
of
those
things
because
you're
thinking
about
how
you're
going
to
get
home
from
that
second
shift:
wake
your
children
up,
pile
them
into
your
grandmother's
car
and
getting
them
out
of
the
neighborhood.
Because
the
next
morning
the
marshals
are
supposed
to
show
up
and
put
all
your
stuff
on
the
curb,
because
you're
being
evicted
or
like
when
I
went
and
visited
one
of
our
elderly
residents,
homes
and
I
went
through
it
and
I
came
back.
I
said
Miss
Smith
where's
your
refrigerator.
She
said.
A
So
there
are
over
14,000
families
that
are
having
to
make
those
difficult
decisions
every
day.
Should
they
stay
in
that
substandard
house?
That's
creating
the
asthma
in
their
children,
with
the
black
mold
on
the
walls,
because
they're
afraid
to
tell
the
landlord
because
the
rent
will
get
raised
or
do
they
risk
their
children
out
ahead
of
the
landlord
as
dr.
Scarborough
talked
about.
These
are
the
realities
for
over
14,000
families
in
Columbus
that
he's
not
even
the
greater
area.
I
think
it's
around
17,000
when
you
start
to
bring
in
some
other
areas.
A
This
is
a
housing
crisis
and
you
combine
that
with
the
fact
that
in
Columbus
Georgia
over
23%
of
our
mortgage
holders,
people
those
are
those
are
not
renters.
Those
are
homeowners
are
underwater
still
on
their
mortgage.
Our
economy
in
Columbus
has
not
recovered
from
the
Great
Recession.
Our
properties
are
not
appreciating
like
they
do
in
other
communities,
largely
that
is
because
of
the
property
tax
freeze.
It
depresses
the
real-estate
value
in
our
area.
Where
does
that
not
happen?
It
does
not
happen
on
rental
property.
A
It's
elderly
residents
living
in
shacks,
you
might
drive
by
and
think
it's
an
okay
home
until
you
find
out
that
the
only
electricity
they
have
is
for
extension,
cords
that
are
put
together
from
a
neighbor's
house
and
there's,
oh
by
the
way,
there's
no
plumbing
one
of
the
houses
you
drove
by
on
4th
Avenue.
When
we
got
into
it,
the
family
was
living
in
a
house
that
the
commode
was
flushing
in
to
the
crawlspace
because
they
weren't
even
on
the
sewer
system.
We
got
that
family
out
immediately
drive
by
that
house.
A
You
don't
know
that
there
is
a
large
number
of
substandard
units
of
this
community
and
a
large
number
of
are
occupied,
and
so
what
NeighborWorks
Columbus
has
said
for
the
last
20
years
and
has
now
been
reinvigorated
in
our
effort
to
say
not
here,
not
in
Columbus.
No,
we
do
not
accept
this,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
I'm
most
proud
of
that
we
have
been
working
on
in
Melanie
facing
us.
A
He
or
she
is
the
director
of
programs
and
services
for
NeighborWorks
and
together
we
have
been
working
for
the
last
three
or
four
years
on
one
program
on
determining
how
we
can
intervene
to
stabilize
the
family
unit
to
allow
families
to
be
just
that
families
to
just
breathe
to
just
be
a
family,
and
we
know
that,
if
they're
paying
over
30%
of
their
income,
their
costs
burden
their
making
other
decisions.
Their
focus
is
on
survival,
its
own
survival.
So
we
developed
heart
heart
is
an
acronym
I
live
in
acronym
soup.
A
Heart
I
can't
do
anything
if
it's
not
an
acronym
I'm,
sorry,
but
heart
stands
for
homeownership
earned
and
reached
together,
and
it's
not
just
homeownership.
It
really
should
be
housing
earned
and
reached
together
where
we
can
take
a
family
that,
if
not
for
one
or
two
things,
if
not
for
you
know
twenty
years
ago
what
the
obstacle
was
to
homeownership.
It
was
credit.
Remember
that,
remember
credit.
You
don't
hear
that
anymore,
we're
often
than
not.
Today
it's
student
debt
because
we
have
to
treat
it
differently.
A
What
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
intervene.
We
have
raised
enough
capital
to
really
roll
this
out
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
we
will
be
working
with
dr.
Scarborough
in
this
community
to
identify
her
children
in
this
school,
her
teachers
that
want
to
participate
on
getting
them
into
good,
decent,
new
or
completely
rehabbed
homes
to
today's
standard,
and
they
will
pay
no
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
towards
their
rent.
That's
it!
It's
not
rocket
science.
This
is
not
rocket
science.
It.
A
We
know
that
if
we
can
stabilize
that
family
unit
and
get
them
out
from
underneath
that
cost
burden
status,
they
can
breathe,
they
can
be
with
their
children.
They
can
begin
to
pay
down
that
student
debt
or
that
medical
debt,
where
they
can
get
a
better
job,
because
they
don't
have
to
pay
everything
that
they
have
for
that.
One
thing
that
electric
bill,
because
do
you
know
what
I
guarantee
you?
A
That
house
is
not
exactly
what
you
would
call
energy
efficient,
that
we
can
start
intervening,
and
we
have
seen
this
because
we
did
a
program
15
years
ago,
based
on
this
same
philosophy
of
no
more
than
30%,
with
section
8
to
homeownership.
Last
month,
our
first
families
came
out
from
underneath
that
subsidies.
A
They
come
up
to
me
in
stores
and
say:
I
cannot
believe
it
I
did
it
one
family
that
I
talked
to
and
winn-dixie
came
out
of
the
old
bTW
15
years
ago,
their
homeowners
with
$40,000
worth
of
equity
in
their
house
right
now,
it's
going
to
put
their
two
children
through
college.
Think
of
that
that's
magic
and
that's
what
we
want
to
do
with
heart,
so
how
we
do
how
we're
going
to
do
it,
because
you
know
I
can
give
me
a
problem.
A
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
solution,
not
gonna,
be
able
to
tell
you
how
to
pay
for
it,
though,
but
I'll
tell
you
how
to
fix
it,
I'm
good
at
that
real
good
at
that.
But
this
time
we
said
we
can't
just
come
up
with
an
answer.
We
have
to
come
up
with
a
total
solution
and
I
want
to
just
finish
on
this.
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
thinking
about
giving
and
thinking
about
funding
some
of
the
work
that
we
do
in
this
community
differently.
A
I've
been
on
this
I've
been
on
this
bandwagon
now
for
about
two
years.
Three,
really.
Instead
of
giving
me
money,
don't
get
me
wrong.
I'm
gonna!
Take
your
money
if
you
want
to
give
it
to
me,
bring
it
on,
but
if
you
really
want
impact,
if
you
really
want
to
change
a
community,
let
me
use
the
money
doing
items
such
as
EQ
to
Synovus
just
signed
up
for
a
half
a
million
dollar
EQ
last
Friday.
Thank
you
very
much
Synovus.
A
What
what's
the
PNC
doesn't
even
have
a
bank
in
this
area
with
a
footprint
right
just
signed
up
with
another
half
million
dollar.
Low-Interest
loan,
a
local
foundation
said
we're
gonna,
put
a
million
dollars
behind
it
because
we
believe
that
a
program
related
investment
allows
you
to
use
this
money
to
impact
this
community
more
than
just
one
time.
Let
me
use
the
money,
let
me
revolve
it.
Let
me
get
a
family
stabilized
when
they
can
buy
that
house,
and
we
will
share
that
equity
with
them.
We
will
move
it
to
the
next
house.
A
No
they're
not
going
to
be
six
or
seven
percent,
which
is
what
market
is,
but
these
these
partners
are
saying
we
understand
that,
there's
more
to
an
economic
return,
there
has
to
be
a
socially
just
return
in
the
work
that
we
do
in
this
community
and
it
can
be
done
and
the
state
of
Georgia
was
the
last
partner
that
stood
up
and
said.
We're
gonna
put
a
million
dollars
behind
it
too.
A
A
When
we
came
down
third
Avenue
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you
really
looked
at
the
housing
you
were
supposed
to
look
at,
but
how
many
of
you
saw
the
rocking
horse
or
the
play
the
play
items:
the
toys
on
the
front
porches,
those
are
children
that
represents
children
being
raised
in
these
substandard
housing
and
that's
not
acceptable
in
Columbus
Georgia.
It's
something
we
said
in
1997
after
the
first
good,
bad
and
ugly
tour,
where
we
stood
up
and
said
from
every
Pope
at
every
podium
in
every
soapbox.
A
A
So
that's
a
great
question
and
it's
a
real
challenge
for
our
community.
You
know
and
I
think
John
Hutchinson
talked
about
it
this
morning.
Even
a
bad
home
is
still
a
home.
You
know
it's
it's
better
than
nothing,
it's
better
than
the
street,
it's
better
than
not
having
a
roof,
even
if
it
leaks
on
rainy
days
over
your
head.
So
the
city
is
very
challenged
to
really
impress
enforce
codes
that
could
condemn
a
house.
A
I
will
tell
you,
though,
if
you
go
through
a
neighborhood,
and
you
really
see
something
that
is,
you
know
the
substandard,
which
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
that
too,
and
you
know
nobody's
living
in
it.
You
can
call
2-1-1
and
report
it
and
if
codes
gets
out
there
and
it's
truly
not
it's
not
occupied
3-1-1.
A
B
B
A
A
A
Can
I
just
please
say
thank
God
for
the
City
of
Columbus.
Can
I
just
give
a
shout-out
to
the
Community,
Reinvestment
Department
or
whatever
they're
called
these
days.
Laura
is
just
amazing.
I
know
that
the
mayor
is
committed
to
this
he's
using
CDBG.
We
we
were
able
to
produce
over
a
million
dollars
in
NSP
program
income.
It's
going
into
land
banking,
that's
huge,
really
having
a
vigorous
land
bank
is
gonna,
do
a
lot
of
good
for
the
community.
So
it's
not
like
this
is
happening
in
a
vacuum
everybody's
working
on
it,
everybody
recognize
it.
A
You
know
it's
just
it's
not
a
big
secret,
but
it's
one
of
those
secrets.
We
don't
talk
about
too
often
in
public,
and
we
have
to
talk
about
this
because
it
is
our.
It
is
our
people,
it
is
our
residents.
It
is
our
friends
that
are
living
in
these,
and
let
me
tell
you
something
when
it:
let
me
I
could
switch
hats,
real,
quick
and
cause
whiplash.
If
that
talked
about
not
being
able
to
teach
these
kids
that
aren't
in
these
in
these
seats,
that's
a
big
deal.
That's
why
I
ran
for
the
school
board.
A
My
board
believed,
like
I,
did
that
the
to
go
hand,
and
he
and
Community
Redevelopment
and
educational
attainment
go
hand
in
hand.
So
you
know
it's
all
the
same
mission.
What
what
a
vet
does
every
day
at
this
goal,
and
what
that
schools
do
in
district
7.
My
district
every
day
goes
hand
in
hand,
and
this
is
our
future.
A
C
A
Our
area,
our
area,
median
income
for
a
family
of
four,
which
is
the
traditional
use.
We
were
a
little
low
on
that
this
morning
when
we're
showing
that
numbers.
Forty,
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
and
sixty-four
dollars,
something
like
that's
close
to
forty,
eight
thousand.
So
that's
eighty
percent,
so
anything
below
that.
So
you
can
I'm
not
a
good
at
math,
I'm,
sorry,
but
but
it's
it's
around
thirty
thirty-two
thousand,
and
you
know
what
thirty-two
thousand
dollars
is:
that's
our
starting
police,
that
is
our
starting
teachers.
In
some
cases
that
certainly
para
pros.
A
That
is
a
lot
of
the
people.
You
see
every
single
day
on
your
daily
activities.
Forty
seven
thousand
for
a
family
of
four
is
most
of
the
people.
You
see
every
day
on
your
daily
activities.
That's
most
of
us!
So
that's
not!
It's
not
impoverished.
It's
not
people
in
Housing,
Authority
property.
It's
our
low
middle
income!
It
is
you
know
we
do
two
things
in
Columbus.
Incredibly.
Well,
when
it
comes
to
housing,
we
went
buy
some
of
them
on
River
Avenue,
we
house
the
wealthy.
A
D
E
A
You
know
I
could
go
on
and
on
and
on,
but
there's
not
a
lot.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
housing,
I
work
with
the
city,
it
with
their
home
allocation
and
trying
to
help
with
down
payment
assistance
and
gap
funding,
and
that's
kind
of
where
heart
pem
Siddons
on
that
gap,
but
they're
the
heart
there
were
the
working
poor
I
mean
if
you've
heard
that
phrase
working
poor.
That
is
the
working
poor
and
we
should
not
in
this
country,
in
my
opinion
and
I,
don't
want
to
get
too
political.
We
shouldn't
have
that
term.
A
Shouldn't
exist
in
America
working
poor
I
mean
everybody
should
make
a
living
wage.
If
there
was
a
living
wage
and
people
didn't
have
to
work.
Two
and
three
jobs
to
make
ends
meet
to
be
able
to
afford
a
home,
and
we
wouldn't
have
this
problem.
So
you
know
it's
it's
it's
pretty
across
the
board.
There
is
problems,
there's
you
know,
deficits
everywhere,
but
I
will
say:
Columbus
Georgia
probably
does
better
than
most
cities
our
size
and
trying
to
help
again
a
lot
of
our
working
poor
is
invisible.
It's
just
they
don't
come
forward.
A
You
don't
know
you
know
so.
You've
got
to
get
into
the
neighborhoods
like
never
works,
Columbus
does
every
day
and
and
you
have
to
really
figure
it
out,
but
there's
a
you
know:
there's
plethora
of
programs
for
feeding
for
eating
for
housing,
but
you
know
you
just
gotta
lay
them
set
all
questions.
Thank
you
all
very
much.