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August 27, 2012, City Council Meeting Part Two of Two
B
A
There
anything
between
the
the
diet,
two
page
and
the
full
banquet
40
page.
C
If,
if
I
made
true
to
true
council
president,
is
it
not
technically?
No,
because
I
mean
there
is
an
explanation
of
what
we
changed
and
then
there's
what
we
changed
and
if
I
typically
what
happens,
if
you
try
to
explain
what
you
changed
it
when
in
detail
it
winds
up
longer
than
the
expo
than
the
change
itself.
C
I
can
give
anybody.
This
wants.
There's
a
series
of
correspondence
between.
That's
all
public
records
always
been
available.
I've
always
offered
it
a
series
of
correspondence
between
the
planning
department
and
the
statewide
planning.
Somebody
told
me
they
already
have
the
statewide
letter.
I
can
gladly
give
you
that
too
statewide
letter
in
the
department's
response.
E
Thank
you
miss,
mr,
if
I
made
through
the
chairman,
I
just
want
to
ask
mr
paula
just
to
kind
of
just
clear
it
up
for
me
as
far
as
where
we
are
with
this,
because.
B
C
E
C
E
C
C
So
now,
what's
before,
as
I
said
earlier,
what's
before,
the
council
is,
and
it's
a
simple
question,
is
you:
you
have
a
choice
of
having
a
locally
adopted,
comprehensive
plan
which
is
there,
and
I
mean
you
can
go
to
the
changes
and
it
does
not
should
have
been
done
in
the
public
forum
and
or
adopting
the
changes
that
have
been
approved
by
the
state
and
have
moved
the
comprehensive
plan
towards
a
point
to
to
where
the
state
can
adopt
that
we
have
both
a
local.
You
know
state
approved,
comprehensive
plan.
C
C
Be
thinking
about
the
time
frame
on
this
because
there's
a
slight
other
problem
is
if
we
do
this
in
september,
if
this
gets
amended
and
not,
we
have
to
go
through
the
amendment
process.
There's
major
amendments
to
this
this
has
to
you
may
not
be
able
to
do
this
by
october.
If
this
doesn't
get
done
by
october.
It
doesn't
go
back
for
two
years.
Mr
lapollo.
D
B
D
We
approved
the
comprehensive
plan.
What
the
councilmem
are
asking
for
are
what
significant
amendments
were
made
after
we
let
it
go.
There
has
been
discussion
about
powers
of
the
planning
commission
that
that
comes
into
the
definitions.
Is
that
correct?
That's
one
of
the
ordinances
that
we
did
not
put
forward
is
that.
D
Correct,
that's
not
a
change
that
was
made
on
the
comprehensive
plan;
no,
they
gave
power
to
the
planning
commission.
So
I
think
what
mr
stycos
is
asking
for
is
you
gave
us
a
two-page
explanation,
there's
a
40-page
documentation
between
the
state
and
you.
I
think
what
he's
asking
for
is
something
in
between
to
take
those
particular
points
that
you
made
and
just
explain
them
a
little
bit
further
and
how
they
affect
what
we,
what
is
different
from
what
we
approved
at
at
the
approval
of
the
comp
plan
on
the
local
level.
C
I
can
I
can
provide
it's
basically,
I
can
try
to
provide,
but
if
you
really
want
to
know
what
the
changes
are,
the
changes
are
the
responses
to
the
state.
I
can
provi
try
to
provide
a
more
detailed
explanation,
but
the
explanation
that
was
provided
is
basically
that
detailed
explanation
the
changes
are.
C
Is
we
agreed
that,
under
the
old
comp
plan,
we
set
two
things
under
land
use
of
several
things
under
the
land
use,
but
they
basically
referred
to
how
we
were
going
to
do
zoning
is
we
were
going
to
not
change
the
zoning
on
open
space
for
private
property
owners
if
they
objected,
and
that
was
a
basically
a
violation
of
war,
because
we
have
to
be
consistent,
so
we
agreed
to
say
that
we
would,
if
private
property
owners
refuse
to
go
to
open
space.
Mr.
D
D
What
we
need
so
come
from
psychos.
Are
you
finished.
F
I
just
have
one
question
from
mr
to
the
chair:
you
mentioned
if
this
isn't
passed
by
september.
What
is
the
deadline?
What's
the
official
deadline
from
the
state
for
this
comprehension.
C
Have
no,
you
know,
january
of
2013.?
No,
you
don't
is
is
is
november
whatever
you
have
a
new
council
correct.
Is
the
members
of
the
council
who
weren't
on
that
board
and
there's
going
to
be
a
significant
number,
can't
vote
on
this,
because
you
can
only
vote
in
a
public
hearing
on
those
things
that
you
sat
in
on
so
as
of
the
end
of
october,
this
dies.
This
does
not
get
approved.
This
is
an
effect
tonight
by
charter.
I
can't
bring
it
back
for
two
years
unless
there's
a
substantial
and
material
change.
G
E
Just
through
the
chair,
mr,
I
want
to
ask
mr
paula
one
more
mr
lapollo,
on
the
now
you
mentioned
that
it
could
stay.
We
can
utilize
the
local
approval
of
the
comprehensive
plan
which
we
approved,
or
you
could
have
one
that
is
approved
also
locally,
but
also
by
the
state.
E
Just
clarify
for
me:
isn't
there
a
like
state
law,
though
saying
that
that
is
the
the
local
one
has
to
be
approved
by
the
state?
No,
so.
C
No
they're
confused
what
state
law
says
is
that
when
a
community
adopts
the
comprehensive
plan
at
the
local
level,
there
is
a
locally
approved,
comprehensive
plan
for
all
local
land
use
actions
that
has
the
force
of
law.
What
chachata
says
is
the
comprehensive
plan
has
the
force
of
the
law
upon
adoption
that
all
land
use
decisions
shall
be
consistent
by
charter
with
the
future
land
use
plan.
C
That's
even
above
state
law
is
what
the
state
law
then
says
is
where
to
submit
that
for
review
and
adoption
that
we
are
required
to
submit
for
review
in
adoption,
but
by
the
state
is
and
if
the
state
doesn't
they
they've
changed
their
procedures.
If
the
state
doesn't
adopt
it
is
you
can
have
a
problem,
as
I
said,
there's
no
requirement
for
state
to
be
consistent
with
your
what's
the
problem.
First
of
all,
this,
what's
the
plan
there's
two
problems.
C
Once
the
plan
is
adopted,
any
action
of
the
state
must
be
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
for
or
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
If
it's
not
adopted
by
the
state,
the
state
is
not
bound
by
that
plan.
It
can
do
whatever
it
wants.
In
the
city
of
grantston,
and
then
we
have
no
recourse
saying
it
has
to
be
consistent
with
the
plan.
That's
number
one
and
number
two
is
they're.
C
Tying
funding
discretionary
funding
to
an
adopt
state
adopted
comprehensive
plan
more
and
more
so
so
that
in
the
future,
and
that
we're
beginning
to
see
that
now
in
the
future,
when
there
are
discretionary
grants
out
there,
if
you
don't
have
an
adopted,
comprehensive
plan,
you
may
be,
you
may
be
excluded
for
applying
for
state
funds
grants
discretionary
grants,
so
there
are
penalties.
Attached
does
not
relieve
us
of
zoning
consistency.
A
During
the
when
you
spoke
the
first
time
after
mr
joslin
spoke
yeah,
I
thought
that
at
the
very
end
you
said,
if
there's
a
conflict
between
the
comprehensive
plan
and
zoning
zoning
controls,
is
that
what
you
said.
C
C
What
controls
under
the
land
use
law
there's
a
requirement
that
zoning
would
be
consistent
with
the
comp
plan
in
east
providence.
There
was
zoning
that
was
inconsistent
with
the
comp
plan
and
the
planning
commission
turned
down
the
subdivision.
Basically,
it
was
inconsistent
and
they
went
to
court
in
the
court
basically
upheld
that
it
had
to
be
consistent
with
the
comp
plan.
C
I
C
The
law
that
governs
us
and
basically
what
it
lays
out,
is
a
procedure
which
we're
not
under
because
in
terms
of
the
the
the
old
one
said
you
brought
it
into
within
18
months.
The
new
or
law
says
you
designate
a
time
frame,
a
reasonable
time
frame
to
do
it
and
you
do
it
by
then.
But
the
law
also
says
is
that
if
you
don't
bring
zoning
and
planning
of
the
comprehensive
plan
into
consistency
within
a
period
of,
I
think
it's
a
year.
C
Don't
hold
me
on
that
than
zoning
controls,
which
is
the
way
I
always
thought
it
was
or
should
be
so
under
the
new
law
that
was
passed
just
this
last
year
last
year
or
after
that
case,
2011
is.
If
zoning
in
in
the
comprehensive
plan
isn't
brought
into
conformity
by
the
comprehensive
plan
act,
the
zoning
ordinance
will
control.
A
Well,
let
me
I
okay,
so
the
first,
the
first
point
you're
making.
Is
that
what
mr
joslin
was
saying
that
case
the
east
providence
case,
since
that
case
the
legislature
changed
the
law,
yes
right,
and
that
so
let's
say
we
have-
and
I
I
know
this
is
what
I
worry
about
about
the
comprehensive
plan
that
we
have
some
lot,
that
is
zoned
residential.
C
A
All
right
so
the-
and
we
we've
been
told
a
number
of
times
by
the
lawyers
that
if
the
the
landowner
comes
in
and
wants
to
change
the
zoning,
in
this
instance
from
residential
to
commercial,
to
comply
with
the
comprehensive
plan
that
the
city
council
doesn't
have
an
option
we
have
to.
We
have
to
bring
zoning
into
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
C
I
mean
what
I
when
I
it's:
this
is
land
use
law.
Nothing
is
ever
straight
forward.
What
the
law
says
is
that
and
then
the
archata
makes
it
it
sort
of
plays
in
and
that's
more
local.
What
the
state
law
says
is
that
right
under
the
old
one,
I'll
just
use
it
within
18
months
of
approval
by
the
state,
the
city
is
to
bring
the
it's
zoning
into
consistency.
With
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
the
judge,
jocelyn
fred,
jocelyn's
right,
the
court
said:
there's
no
penalty
attached.
C
If
you
don't
do
it,
because
there's
no
penalty
in
the
law
is,
if
you
do
not
do
that
with
the
law
that
I'm
going
to
give
away
the
secrets.
If
right
now
is
they'll,
come
in
and
says
that
that
is
the
law.
That
is
absolutely,
I
will
tell
you.
The
law
says,
is
that
that
you're
supposed
to
make
the
comprehensive
plan
and
zoning
consistent
is
if,
in
the
exercise
of
your
legislative
function,
you
choose
not
to
re-zone
a
particular
property.
C
Somebody
comes
in
for
it's
supposed
to
be
commercial.
It's
residents,
you
want
to
keep
it
commercial,
a
residential
is.
If
you
deny
that
zone
change.
There
is
no
appeal
of
that
zone.
Change
to
the
court
system.
That
stance,
because
the
supreme
court
has
said
it's
a
legislative
function
and
the
zoning
the
comprehensive
plan
act
and
zoning
provides
no
appeal
of
a
denial
of
his
own
change.
What
would
then
happen
is,
I
would
have
to
change
to
be
consistent.
C
A
I
I
would
like
something
by
the
piece
of
information:
do
you
I
would
like
a
list
of
the
land
owners
who
requested
changes
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
It's.
C
It
it's
in
the
comprehensive
plan
when
we
did
this,
I
specifically
and
then
that
was
at
all
the
public
hearings,
and
I
can
remember
specifically,
we
did
this
because
councilman
livingston
asked
me
to
put
in
the
ones
that
we
didn't
approve
is
there
is
a
list
in
the
comprehensive
plan
of
all
the
requests
that
landowners
came
in
to
me
for
a
change
in
the
future
land
use
map,
and
I
listed
those
and
what
we
changed
it
to,
and
then
I
also
presented
it
at
the
public
hearings
to
the
city
council.
Okay,
so
that's.
B
D
That
I'm
pleased
to
present
to
you
by
the
way
were
there
any
other
members
of
the
public
wanting
to
speak
on
an
undocumented
item.
There
being
none.
That's
closed.
I'm
pleased
to
present
to
you.
We
had
a
sad
occurrence
as
mentioned
earlier
in
the
meeting.
You
know
the
loss
of
steve
warner.
Roy
damiano
came
forward.
He's
been
a
member
of
the
audit
committee
for
going
on
two
years
to
two
and
a
half
years
now
and
brings
a
lot
of
similar
experience
to
mr
warner.
D
D
The
actions
and
the
the
decisions
of
the
council,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
go
you
have
his
his
resume
it's.
It
certainly
fits
a
lot
of
the
similar
parameters
that
we
had
with
mr
mr
warner.
So-
and
this
is
a
council
appointment
so
with
that
being
said,
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
appointment
of
roy
damiano
to
the
internal
order
of
the
position
for
the
city
council
motion.
D
D
E
Yes,
how
you
doing
good
roy,
just
a
quick
question
regarding
you,
know
the
position
and
actually
the
workings
of
the
the
city,
computers
and
the
system
here.
Are
you
familiar
or
are
familiar
with
with
our
system
as
far
as
accessing
data
through
through
our
through?
I
think
we
have.
What
do
we
use?
E
All
right
yeah,
because
I
know
I
know
it's
it's
a
very
you
know
there
is
a
separation
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
I
mean
you
work
for
the
council,
the
council,
I
mean
there's,
there's
and,
and
you
you
have
certain
responsibilities
and
powers
to
to
go
into
departments
and
go
into
those
systems.
Look
up
the
information,
you
need
that
we
request
and
things
like
that,
and
I
mean
not
that
the
administration,
but
there
has
to
be
a
certain
amount
of
of
being
able
to
to
look.
E
You
know,
get
what
you're
looking
for
from
which
we
request.
So
I
guess
my
question
would
be
not
knowing
the
system
is
there
a
who's
going
to
teach
him
like?
How
is
he
going
to
learn
to
I
mean
you're
going
to
be
taught
by.
You
know
the
administration
staff,
which
is
fine,
but
I
mean
there
are
there's
just
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
know
how
to
get
at,
and
I
don't
know
how
is
he
going
to?
Is
it
like
a
manual?
I
I
know
mr
damiano
from
the
audit
committee
and
we've
had
a
good
working
relationship
in
that
committee
same
as
mr
warner,
and
we
always
provided
mr
warner
with
a
a
pc
and
access
to
any
reporting
that
he
wanted
and
we'll
provide
the
same
to
mr
damiano
plus
a
desk,
and
we
will
be
more
than
happy
to
show
him
how
to
go
into
the
system,
not
tell
him
what
to
look
for,
but
how
to
get
into
the
system.
So
he
can
determine
what
type
of
reports
he
would
like
to
run
and
it's.
I
M
I
The
school
department
we're
in
admin
system,
the
school
department
has
munis,
I
would
have
to
you,
know,
introduce
mr
damiano,
or
maybe
he
already
knows
mr
balducci,
but
he
would
have
to
work
with
mr
balducci
or
a
member
of
his
staff
to
get
access
there
or
if
he
wanted
certain
things
provided
to
him.
I
will
tell
mr
balducci
to
provide
it.
K
Thank
you,
president
lupino,
and
good
to
see
you
roy
welcome.
This
is
actually
a
question
to
the
council
president.
I
should
know
the
answer
to
this,
so
I
apologize
council
president
is
this
appointment.
Is
there
a
term
to
this
appointment
is?
Does
the
his
auditor
serve
it?
The
will
of
the
council.
D
He
serves
at
the
pleasure
of
the
council,
the
sitting
council,
so
he
is
subject
to
reappointment
or
at
in
january
great.
D
And
mr
damiano
was
aware
of
that:
he
knows
that
so
he's
on
a.
I
think.
It's
it's
good
he's
he's
got
some
experience.
If
I
might
speak
he's
got
some
experience
on
the
audit
committee.
He
has
a
relationship
with
mr
strom.
He
will
develop
a
relationship
with
mr
balducci.
He
is
still
he
he
understands.
I
sent
him
all
the
all
the
background,
qualifications
and
the
duties
and
his
powers
to
him.
D
So
he
understands
that
fully
just
a
matter
of
being
weeding
things
out
for
the
next
few
months
and
hopefully
he'll
he'll
prove
to
you
that
he
can
continue
after
that.
K
D
J
D
D
35
000
and
currently,
and
then
mr
damiana
would
be
pro-rated
from
from
this
point
to
the
fifth
to
his
the
end
of
his
appointment
is
that
how
it
works.
J
B
A
F
Thank
you,
council,
president
of
just
a
couple
of
questions
for
mr
damiano
through
the
chair,
because
I'm
chairman
of
finance,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
working.
The
budget
is
over,
but
there
may
be
supplemental
adjustments
to
the
budget.
We
just
have
a
bidder
for
the
police
station
so
that
money
that's
coming
would
have
to
decide
what
transpires.
F
H
F
So
you
can
leave
your
business
okay,
which
is
a
good
thing
and
that's.
F
Leading
to
and
then
I'm
sure
you
have
my
cell
phone
to
for.
H
D
H
G
You,
council,
president,
very
briefly,
I
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
know
mr
demiano
for
a
number
of
years,
so
I
know
his
qualifications
and
I
have
no
problem
making
the
recommendation.
That's
why
I
made
the
motion
to
approve,
so
I
think
everyone
will
be
very
pleased
with
his
work.
K
F
M
E
D
Raise
your
right
hand,
do
you
swallow?
Do
you
solemnly
swear
that
you
will
be
true
and
faithful,
unto
the
sub
unto
and
support
the
constitution
of
the
united
states?
This
state
and
support
the
laws
and
constitution
thereof
in
the
home,
ruled
charter
and
ordinances
of
the
city
of
cranston,
and
you
will
will
well
and
truly
execute
the
office
of
which
you
have
been
appointed
or
until
another
be
engaged
in
your
place
or
until
you
be
legally
discharged
there
from
so
help
you
god,
congratulations!
D
B
D
L
K
D
L
G
K
D
D
M
Thank
you,
council,
president,
to
the
through
the
chair
to
the
administration.
M
I'll
wait
till
jerry
gets
up
jerry
any
update
from
the
state
on
the
state
highways
that
nothing's
been
done,
that
the
weeds
are
getting
taller
and
taller.
Are
we
on
a
time
schedule?
Are
they
gonna
wait
till
the
snowfall
comes
or.
L
To
answer
your
question,
I
have
not
gotten
a
response
back
from
the
state.
That's.
M
I
would
like,
like
that
very
much
jerry
again
another
thing
cbo
park
in
probably
know
what's
on
florida
avenue
in
the
back,
I've
got
a
few
complaints
from
the
constituents
that
it's
in
bad
shape
condition
wise.
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
have
someone
go
by
and
look
at
it.
D
M
M
M
My
question
is:
if
there's
children
walking
to
school
and
they're
three
abreast
one
of
them's
going
to
have
to
walk
into
the
street,
which
kind
of
takes
away
the
safe
routes
to
school
moniker.
Is
there
any
way
that
can
be
put
either
in
the
grass
or
somewhere
else?
It's
smack
in
the
middle
of
the
sidewalk
you're.
M
L
Yes,
sir,
I
am
familiar
with
the
situation.
I
did
speak
with
the
constituent.
We
did
send
an
engineer
out
to
look
at
it
and
we
are
somewhat
constrained
and
we're
constrained
from
a
number
of
standpoints.
One.
Those
signs
have
to
be
in
a
in
a
a
semblance
of
distances
apart
because
there's
several
new
signs
that
had
to
go
in
as
part
of
the
safe
routes
to
school,
and
secondly,
it
has
to
be
in
the
city's
right
of
way
we're
not
going
to
put
it
on
his
land.
L
Of
course
it
has
to
be
in
the
right
way,
and
it
has
to
be
so
far
from
the
curb.
So
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
options
and
what
we
were
able
to
successfully
do
for
that
property
owner
is.
It
was
originally
planned
for
two
signs
on
his
sidewalk
and
we
were
able
to
adjust
them
both
directions
and
limited
it
to
one.
How
much
further
we
can
go.
I
don't
know,
but
there
does
have
to
be
a
safe
distance
from
the
curb.
M
B
D
J
We
have
proposed
ordinance
8-12-1
an
amendment
of
title
10,
chapter
32
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
cranston,
entitled
motor
vehicles
and
traffic
for
a
stop
at
grace
street
in
pond
street
to
be
referred
to
safety
services.
For
a
hearing
on
september
10th,
we
have
proposed
ordinance
8-12-2
an
amendment
of
title
12,
chapter
32
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
cranston
titled
motor
vehicles
and
traffic
for
a
crosswalk
at
narragansett
boulevard
at
chiswick
road
to
be
referred
to
safety
services
for
hearing
on
september
10th.
J
We
have
a
petition
by
olympia
holdings
llc
for
a
an
amendment
of
chapter
17
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
cranston,
2005,
entitled
zoning,
a
change
of
zone
for
phoenix
avenue
to
be
referred
to
the
ordinance
committee
for
hearing
on
october
11
2012.
J
K
F
D
Motion
second,
under
the
discussion
cleric
clerk,
please
be
aware
of
the
timing
on
those
committees
because
of
the
we
said
we
would
be
able
to
adjust
times
due
to
the
agenda,
so
I
think
you
said,
there's
not
much
on
ordinance,
so
if
we
can
adjust
those
times
for
the
advertising
of
those
meetings,
move
them
up.
I
want
to
remind
okay
take
a
vote
on
the
on
the
referral.
K
B
D
Yes,
just
a
qualified
clarification,
councilman
goes.
We
originally
had
ordinance
at
six
and
finance
at
seven,
but
we
are
allowed
to
adjust
that
if
there's
a
lack
of
a
any
substantial
items
on
ordnance,
so
we
can
make
it
six
and
six
thirty.
A
Yeah,
I
just
I
think,
those
those
issues
that
we
tabled
at
the
last
meeting.
All
those
zoning
issues.
D
D
D
I
would
ask
at
this
time
the
minority
leader
to
reconsider
a
couple
of
appointments
on
a
couple
of
the
committees,
I'm
not
getting
cooperation
from
a
particular
individual,
and
I
would
like
that
person
to
be
replaced
because
I
am
not
that
person
is
not
being
cooperative,
nor
is
nor
is
that
person
attending
the
meeting.
So
please
be
advised
that
I'm
I'll
be
looking
for
another
appointment
on
that
on
those
committees.
D
It's
not
fair
to
the
other
members,
and
it's
certainly
not
fair
to
me,
because
if
I
have
to
make
up
the
the
quorum,
I'm
not
being
notified
in
a
timely
manner,
you
know
10
minutes
before
the
meeting
is
not
enough
time
for
me
to
you,
know,
get
here
and
and
make
that
quorum.
It's
not
it's
not
fair
to
anyone,
nor
is
it
fair
to
the
public
who
have
to
come
to
these
meetings
and
plan
for
that.
So
I
would
like
that
to
be.
K
D
Both
there's
been
no
attendance,
but
there's
also
been
no
notice.
You
know
others
who
others
who
have
not
going
to
make
the
meetings
notify
the
cleric
the
chairperson
and
myself
ahead
of
time,
so
that
I
can
make
that
third
or
fourth
person,
whatever
the
case
may
be
on
that
committee.
So
I
wish
you
would
consider
that
and
have
a
discussion
with
your
with
your
minority
caucus.
Well.
D
It
is
not,
but
in
that
particular
evening
it
was
a.
It
was
a
minority
non-attendee
that
created
the
lack
of
a
quorum
one
we
couldn't
get
a
hold
of,
but
one
just
never
responded.
D
So
if
you
could,
that
being
said,
our
next
regular
scheduled
meeting
is
september
24th.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn.