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July 28, 2014, City Council Meeting
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F
The
last
time
that
I
spoke
at
the
meeting
I
walked
out
mr
santagata,
mr
barone
and
mr
estrada
all
came
up
to
me
and
says
we're
doing
something
about
it.
We're
trying
to
get
this
moved
and
I've
called
up
and
I've
come
into
the
to
the
office
for
the
last
seven
weeks
into
the
mayor's
office.
Haven't
got
a
damn
thing
done.
I
told
you
people
that
if
I
can't
get
anything
done,
I
would
call
channel
12
susan
hogan.
I
called
her
today
and
she
will
be
following
up
on
this.
F
F
It's
just
an
open
piece
of
land
with
a
house
on
it.
That's
falling
apart.
I
parked
over
here
on
the
right
side
of
the
the
building
and
there's
caution
tape
around
a
little
hole.
I
mean
I'd
go
as
far
as
you
get
me.
The
tape
I'll
put
the
damn
tape
around
the
the
property,
but
right
now
there
hasn't
been
a
damn
thing
done.
F
G
H
H
G
I
I
No,
it's
going
to
be
the
front
of
the
house.
Oh
it's
going
to
be
it's
not
there!
Well
they're
supposed
to
do
it
this
week,
it's
at
the
front
of
the
house.
It'll
it'll
cover
the
front.
It'll
go
all
the
way
to
the
it'll,
go
the
front
lawn
to
the
front
of
the
house
and
then
in
it's
not
going
to
be
around
the
entire
property.
Okay
and
that'll
be
done
this
week.
You
said
that's.
G
C
F
He
said
that
the
it's
it's
not
dangerous,
they've
got
a
house
built
on
trash
on
garbage
the
house.
This
smells
coming
from
the
house,
which
is
usually
methane
gas.
I
do
have
a
have
a
background
in
the
trash
business.
Also
I
own
the
trash
business
and
one
of
the
reasons
if
you
ride
by
the
johnson
landfill
you
see,
these
outgas
flares
is
to
burn
off
the
methane
gas,
and
the
street
itself
is
cracking.
There's
a
two
inch
crack
on
the
street.
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
been
by
there,
yet
I
call
up.
F
F
I
F
F
F
C
J
L
L
M
K
Well,
I
mean
you:
would
you
would
think
that
the
receiver
who's
charged
with
managing
the
property
would
seek
to
limit
the
exposure
of
his
receivership
by
taking
the
whatever
means
necessary
to
minimize
liability?
So
I'd
like
to
find
out
who
the
receiver
is
and
go
from
there
have.
We
entered
an
appearance
in
that.
J
Yeah
through
the
chair
to
the
solicitor,
don't
we
have
ordinances
on
the
books
where,
if
we
have
to
cut
the
grass-
or
I
mean
they've,
been
cases
where
we
boarded
properties
up,
we
put
a
lien
on
the
property
and
then
that's
charged
to
wherever
the
receiver
might
be.
I
mean,
if
that's
the
case
and
we're
worried
about
this
methane,
gas
and
stuff.
J
At
the
very
least,
we
should
be
able
to
send
the
fire
department
or
somebody
there
with
the
inspectors
to
see
if
it's
a
hazard
and
you
know,
take
care
of
it
whatever
it
costs
put
the
lien
on
the
property
and
we
get
our
money
later.
At
least
that'll
solve
that
problem.
Also,
if
there
is
methane
gas
there.
C
N
N
So
at
the
last
meeting
the
question
was
asked
why
the
residents
hadn't
been
involved
in
the
comprehensive
plan
that
was
modified
five
years
ago,
and
that
answer
is
very
simple.
Many
of
the
residents
moved
in
over
the
last
five
years
and
those
that
were
there.
They
weren't
aware
that
these
changes
were
being
made,
and
I
agree
that
legal
notices
were
sent
out
and
they
were
probably
specified
as
comprehensive
plans,
but
most
average
residents
don't
attend
every
city
city
council
meeting
and
they
don't
know
what
a
comprehensive
plan
is
and
how
it
can
impact
them.
N
N
Maybe
there's
other
areas
of
western
cranston
that
aren't
as
dense
and
it
makes
sense
to
develop
there.
But
alpine
has
over
400
homes,
which
is
significant
for
one
neighborhood.
We
all
know
if
this
area
is
rezoned,
it's
going
to
have
a
ripple
effect
across
western
cranston.
It's
going
to
clog
the
few
access
points
that
we
have
to
the
highway,
the
local
single
lane,
roads
and
they're
not
intended
to
handle
all
of
this
traffic.
N
So
in
other
meetings,
mr
murray's
information
gave
the
residents
who
lived
there
very
little
assurance.
He
used
words
like
possibly,
of
course,
and
you
know,
we'd-
be
well
into
the
plan
before
we
really
know
what
we're
dealing
with
and
the
magnitude
of
how
it
impacts
us.
We
don't
know
what
type
of
sewer
systems
will
be
required.
What
type
of
water
systems
will
be
necessary
to
accommodate
the
land
and
will
there
be
costs
incurred
to
the
residents
who
live
there
to
tie
into
these
new
more
sophisticated
systems?
N
N
So
we're
not
attempting
here
tonight
to
strip
the
landowners
over
their
rights
to
build,
we
understand
they
want
to
make
money
and
develop
the
land
sensible.
So
we
encourage
them
to
build
the
land,
as
it
has
been
for
the
entire
duration
that
they
and
their
family
have
owned
it.
They
can
build
at
80,
000
square
foot,
lots.
They
can
build
one
to
two
beautiful
upscale
houses.
N
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
the
fact
that
the
rate
that
we're
raising
these
issues
is
not
because
we're
alpine
snobs
and
we
feel
like
we're
above
construction
we're
actually
a
group
of
hard-working
people
and
we've
invested
our
money
to
provide
ourselves
and
our
families
with
a
safe
neighborhood.
That's
nicely
nestled
into
the
wooden
surroundings
of
western
cranston.
N
So,
throughout
this
comprehensive
plan,
as
I
decided
to
read
some
of
it,
it
mentions
the
goal
is
to
recognize
differences
with
varying
approaches
to
growth
management
while
protecting
existing
neighborhoods.
It
mentions
balanced
growth
in
western
cranston.
It
mentions
applying
smart
growth
policies
and
reinforcing
cranston
western's
early
agrarian
history.
N
N
O
Thank
you,
council
president,
sean
gately,
14
owl
court
also
a
fellow
residence
in
alpine
estates,
and
I
want
to
second
a
lot
of
what
trisha
said.
You
know
with
the
short
notice
that
was
given
just
before
the
fourth
of
july
weekend,
and
you
know
a
butters
being
noticed
notified
at
that
point
in
time,
which
was
a
small
percentage.
O
It
took
us
a
while
to
try
and
put
our
put
our
heads
together
and
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do
from
a
go
forward
basis.
So
at
our
last
meeting
we
had
mentioned
so
far,
we've
been
able
to
retain
council
we've
done
a
lot
of
studying
of
the
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
to
second
some
of
the
things
that
ms
gilmore
had
just
mentioned
to
you.
O
It's
not
only
just
this
five-acre
lot
of
land
mark
tetra,
who
will
be
our
attorney,
unfortunately,
is
delayed.
We're
hoping
he's
going
to
get
here
in
time
for
this
meeting,
but
there
are
a
budding
acreage
behind
orchard
farm
school
and
then
the
farms
that
are
off
of
out
tall
pines
or
the
back
section
of
alpine
estates.
O
That
could
lead
all
the
way
up
to
100.
More
homes
now
under
the
comprehensive
plan,
it's
also
part
of
the
recommendation
that
these
could
be
zoned
as
a
12..
So
now
you're,
even
doubling
the
amount
of
homes
that
could
be
built.
Now
we
have
an
existing
covenant
in
alpine
estates,
which,
basically
is
you
know:
half
acre
lots
and
20
2200
to
2800
acre
square
foot
homes.
O
Now,
where
I
live,
I
pay
approximately
nine
thousand
dollars
in
property
taxes.
I
have
two
children
that
are
in
the
cranston
school
system.
Now
my
understanding,
I
believe
the
average
cost
to
educate
one
of
our
children
in
the
christian
school
system
is
somewhere
above
10
or
11
000
or
higher
than
that
so
you're
talking
about
what
is
going
to
be
the
cost
of
the
taxpayers-
and
I
know
senator
lombardi,
who
sat
on
the
school
committee
is
here,
would
probably
even
further
emphasize
the
cost
on
a
per
student
basis
of
the
cost.
That
could
happen.
O
Finally,
from
a
personal
standpoint
in
alpine
estates,
the
traffic
density
that
we
already
currently
have
with
400
homes
and
the
amount
of
time
it
takes
to
get
out
having
orchard
farms
about
alpine
estates
drive,
we
now
have
tons
of
children
that
walk
up
and
down
alpine
states
drive
on
a
daily
basis
going
to
school.
There's
a
safety
issue
just
I
believe
it
was
five
or
six
years
ago,
the
they
had
to
repave
alpine
estates
drive
going
to
another
cost
that
there
is
to
the
city.
O
O
200
houses
and
you've
got
50
ton
trucks
coming
up
and
down
alpine
state's
drive
again
for
the
next
five
years,
who's
going
to
pay
to
repave
that
street
who's
going
to
put
a
traffic
light
at
the
end
of
alpine
stage
drive
in
scituate
avenue,
because
the
density
of
the
population
there
is
probably
going
to
require
a
traffic
light.
Then
it
all
the
other
additional
costs
that
are
going
to
there.
Finally
and
last,
which
is
kind
of
a
selfish
notion,
is
that
alpine
estates
was
hit
very
very
hard.
O
When
the
market
crashed,
we
saw
our
homes
collectively
our
neighbors
lose
40
45
of
the
value
of
our
homes.
We've
actually
experienced
a
small
recovery
in
our
neighborhood,
add
200
homes.
To
that
inventory,
then
suddenly
we're
going
to
start
losing
the
value
of
our
homes
again
losing
tax
base
to
the
city,
because
the
reevaluation
is
going
to
have
to
come
through.
O
So
therefore,
I
guess,
if
that
argument
worked
at
that
point
in
time,
I
would
hope
that
that
same
argument
would
hear,
and
I
truthfully
ask
that
we
unanimously
vote
down
this
ability
and
finally
last
note
as
an
organization
and
I'm
kind
of
the
semi
de
facto
speaker.
Here
we
are
more
than
willing
if
there
is
litigation
pending
following
this
vote,
and
it
is
voted
down
that
we
are
more
than
willing
as
an
organization
and
as
a
neighborhood,
to
step
up
as
an
intervener
and
assist
in
any
way
shape.
O
C
P
P
We
paid
a
significant
amount
of
money
to
live
on
a
street
that
is
fortunate
enough
to
have
two
cul-de-sacs
on
any
given
day.
There
are,
maybe
15-20
kids
out
there
playing
and
we
bought
this
because
we
wanted
a
neighborhood
that
was
conducive
to
a
place
where
our
kids
could
grow
up
and
have
fun
and
we're
worried
that
with
the
construction
vehicles
and
everything
else
that
it's
going
to
reduce
the
safety
that
we
paid
for
for
our
children.
P
P
P
Another
final
thing
that
I
just
wanted
to
mention
is
that
I
and
other
constituents
have
called
the
mayor's
office
several
times
to
discuss
this,
and
there
was
no
return,
call
no
interest
of
any
sort.
So
as
a
whole.
Again,
we
are
opposed
to
the
expansion
of
peppermill
lane.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Q
Q
And
quite
frankly,
I
know
I've
spoken
with
a
number
of
you,
and
I
know
that
it's
a
concern.
So
I
know
the
family
also
has
their
position.
You
know
a
lands
right,
a
land
right
issue,
so
I
think,
as
a
group
collectively,
we
want
to
find
an
amicable
solution.
They
could
either
sell
the
land
to
someone
who's
planning
on
building
on
a80
or
the
other
option
which
we're
pursuing
is
a
land
trust
option
that
should
satisfy
the
council's
reservation
as
far
as
going
to
a
lawsuit
and
not
having
a
chance
of
winning
the
reality
is.
Q
There
are
many
land
trusts
in
western
cranston
and
I've
done
some
research.
I've
reached
out
to
a
couple
of
folks,
margaret
devos
with
the
south
side,
community,
land
trust
for
some
guidance
and
also
an
ann
garnett.
Who
is
a
consultant
for
the
public
policy
and
land
trust
alliance,
and
these
people
are
willing
to
help
us
come
up
with
a
solution,
so
I
would
just
ask
respectively,
that
you
vote
and
oppose
this.
Q
B
B
I
mean
when
I
walk
through
alpine
estates
or
I
drive
through
alpine
estates.
It's
currently
dense.
It's
really
dense
right
now,
if
you're
to
walk
there,
there's
a
lot
of
children
there
and
so
you've
got
to
consider
the
public
health,
the
public
safety
of
those
children
and
when
you
build
more
you've,
already
heard
that
argument.
When
you
build
more
homes,
you
have
more
city
services,
a
pressure
on
these
city
services.
You
have
more
need
for
police,
you
need
more
sanitation.
B
You
need
more
students
in
the
class,
you
have
more
students
in
the
classroom
and
that's
an
integra
in
integral
part
of
your
analysis
tonight,
not
just
commitment
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
when
you're
asking
folks
that
live
in
a
neighborhood
that
pay
upwards
of
10
to
12
thousand
dollars
in
property
taxes.
To
you
know
the
first
impression
the
instinct
is
always
with
zoning
is
to
say
not
in
my
backyard,
but
that's
your
typical
response
to
all
zoning,
but
that's
not
the
case
in
this
particular
case.
It's
unique
to
this
particular
project.
B
I
believe,
because
what
you're
asking
is
to
take
a
dense
area
of
high
quality
homes
and
you're
going
to
add
to
it
seven
more
homes,
which
equates
into
seven
times
more
city
services
for
those
homes.
But
more
importantly,
I
think
the
most
important
thing
that
you
have
to
realize
as
a
legislative
body
in
this
commit
in
your
commitment
tonight
is
the
dangerous
slippery
slope
that
you
go
down
because
think
I
want
you
all
to
know.
B
You've
all
been
in
government
long
enough
to
know
that
there
is
a
lot
more
similarly
situated
properties
throughout
western
cranston
that
are
going
to
come
and
run
to
this
clerk's
office
and
seek
similar
relief
and
consider
that
it's
your
obligation,
it's
your
it's
your
commitment
to
consider
that
as
well.
So
I
urge
you
in
this
particular
instance.
You
cannot
approve
this
project.
Thank
you.
R
I
moved
to
western
cranston
because
of
this
feeling
of
you
know
almost
the
branding
of
okay
there's
going
to
be
lots
of
trees
in
the
environment
and
more
space
between
my
neighbors,
and
I
have
three
children
on
the
street
and
it
looks
like
things
are
really
going
to
change
for
one.
I
pay
11
000
in
taxes,
11
000
plus
in
taxes,
and
I
would
really
like
to
know
what's
going
to
happen
when
I'm
going
to
fight
my
taxes,
because
property
values
will
inevitably
go
down
with
all
the
new
homes.
R
S
Greg
silva
16
peppermill
lane
the
house
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
cul-de-sac.
There
really
just
want
to
reiterate
everyone
else's
points,
specifically
there's
10
houses
from
when
you
turn
off
the
alpine.
The
stage
drive
to
basil
crossing
to
pepper
mill,
there's
10
houses
between
that
that
stop
sign
and
the
end
of
my
street,
the
cul-de-sac
there's
15
children
living
in
those
houses
and,
as
someone
alluded
to
earlier,
we're
not
wealthy
folks.
This
isn't
the
rich
part
of
alpine
estates,
we're
all
hard-working
people
we
paid
every.
S
You
know
everything
we
could
to
move
into
that
neighborhood.
Specifically,
in
our
case,
I
can
tell
you
for
the
location
when
I
bought
my
house,
I'm
on
the
end
of
the
cul-de-sac
there
we
specifically
bought
it
because
it
was
on
the
end
of
a
cul-de-sac.
We
were
specifically
told
when
we
bought
it
that
those
were
wetlands
and
they
weren't
buildable.
That's
what
we
were
told
by
the
realtor
by
the
seller,
everybody
when
we
bought
the
house
and
that's
why
we
moved
there.
You
know
you
talk
about
the
safety
issues,
the
water
pressure
issues.
S
I
mean
we
have
all
these
problems.
What
about
building
a
sidewalk
I
mean,
if
you're,
going
to
have
even
more
people
or
even
more
more
cars
and
more
more
construction
and
everything
else.
The
kids,
like,
I
think
sean
was
saying.
Strong
gateway
was
saying.
You
know,
kids
walking
to
school
now,
you've
got
in
addition
to
the
hundreds
of
cars
going
up
and
down
that
road.
Skipping
stop
signs
every
day.
Now
you've
got
heavy
construction
vehicles
where
they
can't
even
see
kids
off
to
the
side.
You
know
someone's
going
to
build
sidewalks
on
that
road.
S
There's
there's
another
cost.
So
again,
just
you
know
just
just
to
reiterate:
we
moved
there
because
it
was
a
safe
quiet
place
for
our
families.
We
were
told
or
or
expected
in
some
cases
that
it
would
remain
that
way.
Now,
all
of
a
sudden,
you
know
four
years
later,
we're
being
told
that
our
quiet
cul-de-sac
is
going
to
be
a
throughway,
and
you
know
I
really
don't
think
that
that's
right.
Thank
you.
T
T
T
The
highest
point
of
the
land
in
question
is
386
feet
above
sea
level.
That's
that's
almost
30
feet
difference,
that's
a
pretty
steep
incline,
and
that
means
that
that
runoff
comes
down
to
my
property
and
properties
adjacent
to
this
land,
not
only
my
land.
I
know
that
I
have
two
sump
pumps
in
my
basement,
one
that
runs
and
then
one
for
an
emergency
in
case
that
first
one
fails.
T
T
And
what
I'm
worried
about
is
that
those
streams
are
going
to
get
quite
large
with
this
runoff,
because
if
you
again
the
war,
the
land
can
just
barely
absorb
the
water
now,
but
if
you
put
pavements
and
streets
and
landscaped
lands
and
foundations,
there
is
no
place
else
for
the
water
to
go
except
downhill
and
yeah.
You
can
take
measures
to
collect
water
and
on
this
on
the
notification
that
you
sent
us
telling
us
about
this,
you
know
the
400
foot
notification.
T
T
It
is
where
you
took
the
indigenous
trees
and
shrubs
and
clear
cut
them,
dug
a
hole,
60
feet,
long
40
feet
wide,
put
a
chain
link
steel
chain,
link
fence
around
it
and
collect
the
water,
and
it's
become
it's
become
a
swamp.
You
put
the
chain-link
fence
around
it
because
you're
trying
to
protect
the
wildlife
and
children
from
getting
accidentally
going
in
there
getting
trapped
falling
in.
T
T
T
So
you
know
you
may
be
able
to
take
measures
to
control
the
water
flow,
but
I
do
know-
and
you
say-
and
you
know
somebody
say
well
to
me-
you
don't
know
what
might
happen.
Oh
you're,
absolutely
right,
I
don't
know
what
might
happen,
but
I
do
know
what
has
happened
and
what
has
happened
in
the
past
is
that
the
court
is
on
an
angle.
T
It
has
a
slope
right
down
to
my
house
from
alpine
estates
drive
that
slope
is
about
15
feet
alpine
state's
drive
if
you're
coming
from
scituate
avenue
has
a
slope
down
to
dove
court
and
alpine
state's
drive
from
the
other
direction
has
a
slope
down
the
dove
court.
So
if
you're
on
alpine
stage
driving
you
get
to
dove
court
alpine
stage,
drive
looks
like
this.
T
Guess
where
that
storm
drain
line
drains
out
to
my
land
just
dumps
out
now?
How
did
you
get
that
approved?
How
could
the
dem
approve
that?
How
could
the
city
approve
that
I
don't
know,
but
depre
engineering
got
it
done,
and
some
other
engineering
company
could
get
it
done
again
in
this
case
that
water
goes
out
to
my
land
and
it's
a
lot
of
water.
T
That's
why
I
need
two
sump
pumps.
I
don't
want
to
see
this
happening
if
this
goes
through
and
those
houses
are
built
and
that
land
becomes
saturated,
that
water
is
coming
down
to
my
land
and
the
people's
lands.
Adjacent
to
mine
sounds
kind
of
selfish
of
me,
but
it's
also
a
good
deal
more
than
just
my
land.
It's
going
to
be
affected,
so
I
I
hope
that
you
do
not
approve
this
change.
U
U
It's
reasonable
to
expect
that
prospective
buyers
would
do
some
analytical
comparisons
of
what
they
could
expect
to
experience
in
western
cranston
versus
other
viable
alternatives
like
jamestown
or
narragansett
or
south
kingstown,
and,
quite
frankly,
there
really
aren't
a
lot
of
compelling
reasons
to
live
in
cranston
if
you're
going
to
pay
ten
or
eleven
thousand
dollars
in
property
tax.
So
I
would
just
ask
everyone
to
consider
what
the
ramifications
would
be
on
property
values
if
you
relax
zoning
standards.
V
Good
evening,
mr
chairman,
mr
council,
president,
members
of
the
city
council
for
the
record,
robert
murray,
with
the
firm
of
taft
mcsally,
located
at
21
garden
city,
drive
I'm
here
this
evening
with
the
applicants
for
the
subject
changer
zone
petition
for
the
extension
of
peppermill
lane.
Let
me
again
introduce
my
clients,
phyllis
brown,
patricia
iannelli
and
lorraine
carlino.
V
They
are
here
this
evening
as
they
were
at
the
ordinance
committee
11
days
ago.
This
you
know,
and
I
appreciate
the
the
wealth,
the
thoughts
shared
by
residents,
both
at
the
ordinance
committee
and
again
this
evening.
I
heard
many
of
the
the
same
remarks
and-
and
I
I
understand
that,
if
it's
in
my
backyard,
they
have
every
right
to
express
their
feelings.
V
I
would,
however,
feel
obligated
again
just
to
set
off
set
forth.
Some
facts
that
are
undisputed
ordinance.
6-1401
was
presented
to
the
city
council
in
the
normal
course
was
publicly
advertised
in
accordance
with
your
rules
and
regulations
in
state
law,
and
a
public
hearing
was
held
on
july
17th
prior
to
the
ordinance
committee,
considering
it
on
july
17th,
the
transit
planning
commission,
as
required
for
all
zone
zone
change,
petitions,
rendered
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
and
that
was
a
unanimous
recommendation
of
approval.
V
The
basis
of
that
approval
is
that
this
ordinance
represents
an
extension
of
the
comprehensive
plan
of
the
city
in
the
land
use
map.
It's
consistent
with
both
those
items,
and
for
that
reason,
the
guide
that
this
city
council
has
adopted
both
in
2010
and
2012,
says
that
this
parcel,
along
with
1300
other
apostles
throughout
the
city,
need
to
be
rezoned
in
order
to
bring
them
in
compliance
with
that
plan.
V
V
V
It
says
that
it
is
the
for
the
purpose
of
having
a
temporary
turnaround
for
the
future
extension
of
peppermill
lane.
This
is
not
something
that
phyllis
brown
and
her
sisters
invented.
Last
week,
it's
been
on
the
record
plans
of
this
city
since
nineteen.
Eighty
six,
I
can't
speak
to
what
representations
were
made
to
people
when
they
bought
their
homes.
But
if
anybody
reviewing
the
title
examination
of
this
area,
reviewing
the
record
plan
would
clearly
see
that
it
was
always
extended
intended
to
be
extend
extended.
V
To
1
units
per
acre,
this
application
is
absolutely
consistent
with
that,
as
is
the
rest
of
alpine
estates.
The
the
2010
plan
that
was
adopted
by
this
city
council
on
august
23rd
2010
that
was
ordinance
2-10-4.
It
passed
unanimously
called
for
the
same
designation
that
we're
presenting
you
here
tonight.
V
It
said
this
should
be
re-zoned
for
half-acre
zoning,
as
you
know,
through
the
comprehensive
plan
process
in
2010.
That
plan
was
then
sent
on
to
the
state
of
rhode
island
for
approval.
It
was
sent
back
with
the
request
for
changes
and
comments.
After
period
of
time
on
september,
24
2012
ordinance
number
6-12-7
passed
unanimously.
V
It
reflected
the
same
proposed
land
use
for
this
parcel
at
the
end
of
peppermill
lane,
as
it
did
in
2010
a
total
of
six
members
of
this
city
council
between
2010
and
2012,
supported
that
comprehensive
plan.
The
state
finally
approved
it
after
your
approval
in
september,
and
the
final
approval
is
october
of
2012..
V
The
bottom
line,
mr
chairman,
is
with
all
due
respect
to
the
neighbors
concerns,
and
many
of
the
comments
they
raise
tonight
are
just
premature.
You
know
people
say
that
I'm
talking
in
equivocation.
I'm
telling
you
that
all
that's
being
considered
tonight
is
the
rezoning
questions
about
wetlands
question
about
runoff
questions
about
engineering
designs,
all
that
are
appropriate.
V
V
People
have
paraphrased
councilman
cycles,
who
I'm
sorry
is
not
here
tonight
last
time
at
the
orders
committee
and
if
you
asked
me
before
the
evening,
which
councilman
would
not
support
this
application,
I
would
have
bet
my
bet:
the
ranch
on
councilman
psychos,
because
I
respect
him,
but
I've
watched
him
operate
for
many
years.
I
thought
for
sure
that
he
would
have
voted
against
the
ordinance.
I
commend
him.
V
If
you,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
uphold
the
law
this
evening,
then
you
must
vote
the
most
must
vote
affirmative
on
this.
The
issues
that
many
neighbors
have
talked
about
are
germaine,
but
they're,
not
germane.
Tonight
and
and
with
all
due
respect,
we
are
not.
You
know.
This
is
next
starting
a
ripple
effect
with
any
of
the
locks
in
western
cranston.
Those
things
come
forward
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
This
is
a
isolated
parcel
of
land,
no
access
to
anywhere
else.
There
will
be
no
other
connections
to
plainfield
pike,
dove
court
or
al
court.
V
This
is
an
extension
which,
right
now,
because
I
thought
I
had
to
I
presented
you
a
small
conceptual
plan
which
showed
six
or
seven
lots
on
it.
In
all
honesty,
when
we're
done
with
design
and
everything
else,
I
suspect
that
we'll
end
up
with
something
less
than
that,
but
the
bottom
line
tonight.
The
only
question
you
have
to
ask
is:
is
this
ordinance
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
that
this
city
council
approved
as
late
as
september
2012?
V
If
you
conclude
that
it
is,
and
I
suggest
that
it
is,
you
know
unfortunately
you're
obligated
to
vote
in
the
affirmative.
What
happens
after
tonight?
I
can't
speak
to
that,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
legislative
actions
get
wide
authority
by
the
courts,
but
when
it's
in
the
area
of
land
use
decisions,
your
decisions
must
be
made
in
accordance
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
with
that,
mr
chairman.
Mr
president,
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
I'm
sure
there
are
no
questions
but
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any.
W
W
W
W
They
have
to
take
a
school
bus
special
in
the
morning
and
in
the
afternoon,
and
we
don't
have
any
sidewalks.
I
moved
here
from
out
of
state
beautiful
area
I
bought
said
you
can't
lose
on
this
investment
spent
extra
money
and
then
the
the
market
tanked,
not
your
fault,
but
the
market
tanked.
So
now
I'm
sitting
on
a
house
where
I'm
probably
down
100,
maybe
150
000
dollars.
W
You
add
more
surplus
to
that.
It
doesn't
just
affect
me.
What
about
the
people
over
in
across
the
street
in
castleton,
go
talk
to
them
and
they
have
a
cut
through
on
their
street
that
drives
them
insane,
because
the
indianapolis
speedway,
if
this
family
wants
to
grow
the
limited
amount
of
houses,
that's
fine,
but
you
can't
change
and
allow
them
to
go
more
because
then
you're
gonna
have
another
lawyer,
come
up
here
and
say
precedence
back
in
2014.
W
W
X
Thank
you.
Council
president.
We
had
one
item
on
an
ordinance
6-14-01
ordinance
in
amendment
of
chapter
17,
dakota
city
cranston,
2005,
entitled
zoning
change
of
zone
extension
of
pepper
mill
lane.
This
came
on
a
committee
with
recommendation
of
denial
council
president.
I
believe
it
was
four
in
that
affirmative
and
two
against
denial.
M
M
M
So
I
I
don't
think
we're
really
which
we're
making
the
change
on
the
record,
but
we've
already
made
the
decision,
fortunately
or
unfortunately,
and
as
a
officer
of
the
court.
I
don't
know
that
I
can
support
something
that
is
going
to
violate
our
own
ordinance
and
charter
in
state
law,
perhaps
and
certainly
cost
the
taxpayers
money,
because
in
certain
litigation
the
other
thing
I've
noticed
is
that
in
looking
at
the
plan
presented
by
mr
murray,
some
of
those
lots
are
forty
thousand
forty
three
thousand
square
feet.
Thirty
seven
000
square
feet.
M
There
are
some
very
large
parcels
in
there
and,
as
it
presently
sits,
three
parcels
could
be.
Three
houses
could
probably
be
built
with
ease
at
eighty
thousand
square
feet.
So
you're
really
talking
about
the
difference
between
between
three
maybe
seven.
My
hunch
is.
I
don't
know
that
mr
marty
would
get
seven.
Maybe
he'll
get
five,
so
you're
really
arguing
about
a
couple
of
lot
difference
with
regard
to
this
zone
change,
and
I
was
glad
to
hear
some
of
the
speakers
talked
about-
maybe
purchasing
some
of
them.
M
Maybe
a
deal
can
be
worked
with
the
developer
to
the
to
buy
a
couple
of
the
lots
and
let
them
build
the
three
that
they
were
already
entitled
to
build.
I
I
think
we
have
to
make
decisions
based
on
what's
presented
before
us.
I
don't
know
that
any
access
road
could
be
built
to
pippen
orchard
road
or
to
rather
plainfield
pike.
M
There's
wetlands
right
adjacent
to
this
parcel,
so
the
likelihood
of
being
able
to
put
a
road
through
there,
I
think,
is
really
very
slim
knowing
having
done
some
zoning
work
and
some
having
some
deals
with
dem.
I
I
don't
think
they'd
allow
you
to
pave
over
a
wetlands
and
certainly,
if
there's
a
brook,
I
think
you'd
have
a
problem.
I'm
not
even
sure
that
that's
zoned
residential,
I
thought
it
was
zoned
commercial
and
I'd
like
to
ask.
I
don't
know
if
the
solicitor
knows
through
the
chair.
M
Does
the
solicitor
know
whether
that
adjacent
parcel
is
commercial?
I
do
not
know
that.
I
know
there's
a
large
piece
on
the
other
side
of
the
wetlands,
but
I
think
that
there
is
probably
a
solution
to
this
problem,
but
I
think
we
have
to
separate
this
process
from
the
the
lengthy
process
that
mr
murray
would
face
going
forward
and
where
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
maybe
resolve
this
issue
or
litigate
it
for
for
quite
some
time.
M
But
I
think
that
if
we
deny
this
and
go
against
our
own
ordinance,
that
we
are,
we
are
likely
to
incur
some
large
legal
bills
on
behalf
of
the
city
or
the
taxpayers,
just
to
try
to
address
your
concerns.
Most
of
the
parcels
in
that
plaque
are
smaller
than
some
of
the
lots
that
have
been
being
proposed
by
mr
murray.
M
E
You,
president
lani,
sadly
I
wasn't
able
to
make
the
committee
meeting
last
week.
I
had
to
travel
for
work,
but
when
I
look
at
projects
like
this,
you
know
I
don't
look
at
what
we
all
pay
in
taxes.
I
don't
look
at
the
validity
of
the
house
values.
I
look
at
issues
for
every
project
that
will
hurt
the
area.
I
look
at
density.
I
look
at
you
know
through
ways,
there's
one
entrance
from
one
entrance
and
one
exit
to
alpine
estates.
I
look
at
things
like
that
water.
E
How
it's
going
to
dissipate
those
kind
of
things
I
feel
make
it
a
project.
You
know
to
go
up
or
down,
and
that's
why
I
sang
in
the
denial
because
looking
at
those
issues
until
we
solve
for
them,
we
shouldn't
expand
alpine
states
because
of
its
density.
If
this
was
to
happen
in
any
other
plat
in
any
other
part
of
the
city,
I
would
approach
it
the
same
way,
whether
it's
world,
one
or
two
ward,
three
word
forward:
five
or
six.
E
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
actual
value
of
homes
or
expanding
expansion
of
property.
It's
about
the
issues
that
make
this
a
project-
that's
not
feasible.
Right
now
and
realistically,
I
know
a
lot
has
been
talked
about.
You
know
what
the
law
is
and
what
the
comprehensive
plan
is
and
what
our
responsibility
is.
But
I
wasn't
on
the
council
in
2010
or
2012.,
I
didn't
vote
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
E
Had
I
been
on
that
that
council
I
would
have
voted
against
the
comprehensive
plan,
because
I
feel
80
is
a
good
parcel
of
land
in
in
ward
4..
There's
a
lot
of
dense
park,
a
lot
of
death
houses
in
ward
4.
It
was
supposed
to
keep
it
rural.
Keep
it
agrarian,
keep
it
that
sense
of
farming
community,
that's
been
for
the
last
50
years
and
there's
a
clause
in
our
laws
and
our
rules
on
this
council.
That
says
the
city
council
has
final
authority
over
all
zoning
matters.
E
H
I
I
agree
with
councilman
farina
it
it.
It
seems,
like
the
comprehensive
plan
was
put
forth
a
while
ago
and
like
the
gentleman
said
earlier,
we
are
wiser
than
two
years
ago
and
we
have
a
lot
of
feedback
in
the
area
that
we
hear
of
people's
wet
basements
and
issues
they
have
flooding,
and
I
think
that
some
things
that
looked
good
on
paper
back
when
the
comprehensive
plan
was
being
put
through
with
the
feedback
we
get
from
the
community
might
not
be
as
good
of
an
idea
and
it
is
called
a
comprehensive
plan.
H
It's
not
a
comprehensive
mandate,
so
I
feel
that
it
would
be
unwise
to
not
take
the
time
to
what
to
go
over
it.
As
each
of
these
issues
comes
up,
we
don't
just
make
the
comprehensive
plan
because
we're
under
the
pressure
of
the
state
to
have
a
plan
in
place
and
then
change
all
the
zoning
all
at
once.
H
X
President,
I
want
to
thank
every
all
the
constituents
and
all
citizens
residence
francis
coming
out
tonight.
I'm
glad
you
came
you
enlightened
me
on
a
number
of
issues
I
want
to
say
I
take
disagreement
with
with
a
friend
bob
murray,
who
I
respect
immensely
bob
says
the
only
question
before
us
is
that
this
request
to
change
the
zoning
from
a
a20
comply
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
I
disagree
with
him
immensely
because,
as
senator
lombardi
has
stated,
his
other
individual
stated,
we
have
a
higher
calling
here.
X
X
The
comprehensive
plan
is
is
basically
a
general
outline
and
it's
like,
like
anything
else,
it's
elastic
it
changes
and
times
change
and
sentiments
change,
and
this
council
needs
to
to
to
change
with
those
requests.
In
those
sentiments
we
shouldn't
be
locked
in.
We
should
not
be
locked
in,
so
I'm
not
going
to
support
this.
I
will
be
voting
to
deny
and
we'll
hope
it's
tonight.
Thank
you
because.
J
Thank
you,
mr
council.
President.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
thank
the
residents
and
something
that
mr
mcdonald
said
resonates
with
me,
because
it
should
be
resonating
with
every
elected
official,
whether
you're
elected
at
the
city
council,
the
school
committee,
the
state
governor,
wherever
you're
elected,
to
represent
the
people,
and
it's
very
obvious
here.
Okay,
when
I
have
to
make
a
decision
on
technicality,
is
the
law
or
upholding
what
the
people
want?
I'm
going
to
be
with
the
people
all
day
long.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
neighbors
for
coming
out.
L
Thank
you,
council
president.
The
question
really
comes
down
to,
when
is
a
town
or
city
required,
to
bring
its
zoning
into
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
mr
murray,
in
a
letter
to
the
lawyers
for
the
city,
has
pointed
out.
The
18-month
period
within
which
the
statute
says
a
council
should
bring
its
comprehensive
plan
and
zoning
ordinance
into
compliance
with
each
other.
L
However,
this
was
checked
in
a
or
tested
in
a
case,
west
versus
mcdonald,
a
rhode
island
supreme
court
case
where
they
said
that
the
18-month
language
was
directory,
not
mandatory,
meaning
that
the
council
is
not
required
to
change
within
18
months
and
make
the
zoning
ordinance
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
law
does
specifically
provide,
though,
that
you
cannot
change
the
zoning
on
a
parcel
of
land
after
you
adopt
a
comprehensive
plan
and
make
it
something.
That's
inconsistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
L
This
is
just
whether
you're
required
to
you
bring
your
plan
into
consistency
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
what
time
frame
you
have
to
do
it.
The
court
looked
at
this
in
west
versus
mcdonald
in
east
providence
and
held
that
the
language
from
the
statute
was
directory.
Not
mandatory,
so
I
still
believe
it
is
within
the
city
council's
discretion
to
approve
or
not
approve
the
president
request
before
it.
C
Thank
you,
mr
quinlan.
My
only
comment
is-
and
I
said
it
at
the
ordnance
committee
meeting
this
city
council
is
not
a
rubber
stamp
for
any
department
of
this
city.
The
planning
commission
thought
or
thinks
that
we're
going
to
rubber
stamp
their
decisions.
They
have
an
awful
lot
to
learn
about
city
government.
H
I
H
H
E
H
H
C
Y
I
actually
have
a
question
regarding
the
property
revaluations.
I
got
a
letter
today.
The
guy
came
to
my
door.
I
wanted
to
come
in
and
I
denied
him
access
because
I
said
nothing's
changed
since
last
time
and
I
don't
want
people
walking
through
my
house.
I
got
a
letter
today
saying
this
process
requires
that
all
dwellings
within
the
town
be
measured
and
inspected,
and
my
question
was:
I
thought
this
was
voluntary
that
I
had
to
let
somebody
in
my
house
and
I'm
just
looking
for
a
clarification.
Y
Z
Yes
continue.
Thank
you,
council
president,
sir,
you
are
not
required
to
let
them
into
your
home.
However,
the
caveat
to
that
is
that
they
will
do
an
exterior
evaluation
of
your
property,
which
they
did
and
and
then
whatever
that
assessment
is,
if
it
is
not
accurate
because
of
something
that
they
can't
see
on
the
inside
you'll
have
to
deal
with
that
at
the
moment.
A
Y
C
A
C
H
AA
D
A
C
H
D
AA
D
A
C
I
M
I
H
D
C
He
has
a
tank,
he
has
trouble
with
some
of
these
names,
so
I'll
say
him
for
teresa
pinekia
and
gemma
war
associates
thirty
thousand
dollars.
Personal
injury,
rosary,
acosta
and
fay
law
associates
one
thousand:
seventy
five
dollars
and
ninety
five
cents,
personal
interest,
industry,
injury
and
that's
for
informational
purposes.
Only
council
present
communications.
C
C
C
C
J
I've
done
some
investigation
on
that
myself
made
some
phone
calls.
I
believe
the
fault
lies
well,
I
don't
want
to
call
it
the
fault,
but
I
think
the
issue
is
that
there's
some
miscommunication
between
departments
of
the
city
and
the
capital
properties,
because
they're
willing
to
plant
those
other
three
or
four
trees
that
they
owe
us.
J
The
city
hasn't
told
us
where
to
put
those
the
ones
where
councilman
steichos
originally
wanted
them
those
got
put
up,
but
now
we're
not
getting
any
word
as
to
where
the
city
wants
us
to
put
the
other
three
or
four
trees.
So
once
we
clear
that
up,
I
believe
copianato
properties
will
go
ahead
and
plant
those
trees
at
you
know
whatever
location,
the
city
seems
that
they're
appropriate
for.
G
San
maria,
thank
you,
council
president,
if
I
may
just
follow
up
on
your
question
of
the
legal
fees.
There
are
two
gentlemen
on
here
that
haven't
been
on
previous
reports,
charles
pisa
toro
and
christopher
zangari,
and,
as
you
know,
by
charter,
we
have
to
have
their
hourly
rate.
So
can
we
get
those
for
the
next
council
meeting
all
right
I'll.
G
Also,
council
president,
I
have
another
constituent
here
about
81
midfield
he
came
late.
Can.
Can
I
give
him
a
quick
briefing
on
that
after
the
meeting
on
what
happened?
Yes
on
81
midvale,
I
will
do
that
for
you.
Okay,
then
I
have
removed
the
removal
of
a
truck.
That's
been
there
for
about
four
years
and
counting
now.
Community
fruitland
is
out
of
business,
and
I've
talked
to
director
barone
about
this.
So
I'd
like
to
get
on
the
record
on.
What's
what's
transpired
since
then,.
I
G
G
G
Excellent
at
a
previous
public
works
committee
meeting
I
think
me,
along
with
a
couple
other
people
had
asked
for
a
list
of
cdbg
streets
to
be
paved.
Are
there
a
couple
of
streets
in
knightsville
that
council
president
and
I
feel,
are
low-income
low
to
moderate
income,
and
we
asked
steph
from
cdbg
to
give
us
a
list,
so
I
haven't
seen
it.
So
that's
why
I
put
it
on
council,
member
communications.
Z
We'll
work
on
putting
a
list
together,
just
so
you're
aware:
cdbg
money
is
not
released
until
october,
so
any
of
those
streets
that
are
eligible
will
not
be
touched
until
after
that
money
comes
in
because,
unlike
other
programs,
we
cannot
put
the
money
ahead
of
time
to
do
the
project
and
then
reimburse
ourselves
for
that
money.
So
unfortunately
we
do
have
to
wait.
So
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
get
that
cdbg
list
together.
G
Z
D
J
G
Z
Will
get
your
question?
We
will
get
an
answer
for
you,
because
traditionally
we
have
not
done
any
work
in
the
fifth
ward
with
cdbg
money,
because
most
of
the
award
is
not
eligible,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
any
streets
that
are
eligible
according
to
federal
guidelines
generally
as
a
rule
of
thumb
awards,
one
two
and
three
have
historically
been
the
only
awards
to
qualify
for
city
pg
money.
C
G
A
couple
of
neighbors
have
sent
me
pictures
that
the
truckers
are
completely
ignoring
it
and
took
down
the
tree
branch
last
week.
Well,
maybe
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
so
it's
wonderful.
You
get
some
enforcement
there
or
maybe
a
letter
to
the
businesses,
because
it's
and
that
they're
speeding
on
top
of
it,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
get
the
trucks
to
do
what
the
sign
says.
Do
we
have
to
make
a
bigger
sign?
I
don't
know,
but
I
just
want
to
know
where
the
enforcement
is.
A
I
G
C
G
J
K
K
We
have
a
list
of
people
who
could
potentially
take
you
know
trash
away,
so
it's
not
as
if
we're
giving
it
to
waste
management
or
allowing
them
to
collect
any
kind
of
fee
other
than
what
they
would
normally
charge.
Anyone
else,
that's
just
one
option:
we're
not
mandating
that
waste
management.
Take
your
couch
or
your
your
mattress
or
anything
like
that.
It
could
be
anybody
so
well
what.
K
K
J
J
That
we
have
a
private
vendor
collecting
taxpayer
money,
which
I
know
it's
not
a
taxative.
It's
really
a
tax.
You
know
so
that
I'm
just
not
comfortable
with
that.
So
and
then
second
question:
at
what
point
does
the
city
pick
up?
White
goods
and
items
left
out
that
resident
either
it's
abandoning
council?
What
not
I
mean,
how
are
we
making
that
decision
on
a
case-by-case
basis
or.
U
K
AA
Theory,
ken
mason
director
of
public
works
concerning
your
second
question
about
what
does
the
city
at
what
point?
Does
the
city
pick
up
bulk
or
white
good
items?
Well,
number
one
white
goods
haven't
been
picked
up
by
the
city,
since
I
believe
2009
that
that
has
never
that
that's
been
gone
for
about
five
years.
G
Santa
maria
council
president,
may
I
reaffirm
my
request
to
the
administration
that
we
have
some
sort
of
amnesty
period.
Council
president.
I
know
you've
mentioned
that
too.
In
amnesty
week
and
amnesty
day
I
had
a
call
from
a
constituent
that
they
had
a
party
for
their
son
over
the
weekend
and
they're
already
three
bags
over
the
limit.
G
This
is
going
to
keep
happening
st
mary's
fee
society
was
a
perfect
example.
They're
not
going
to
be
able
to
fit
the
garbage
that
they
that
they
put
out
during
these
festivals
during
parties
we're
going
to
tell
people
they
can't
have
parties
at
home
now,
because
that
they
can't
fit
in
the
garbage
or
pay
150
for
another
garbage.
Can
we
need
some
amnesty
days?
We
still
have
we're
going
to
have
mattresses
all
over
this
fine
city.
Z
To
use
councilman
santa
maria's
point,
the
administration
is
aware
of
some
of
the
issues
that
are
being
caused
by
this
new
system,
but
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
clear
up
from
councilman
santa
maria's
statement.
As
far
as
mattresses
and
bulky
items
like
that,
the
administration
is
already
working
with
waste
management
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
I
don't
use
the
word
amnesty
but
allow
residents
to
have
you
know
to
have
that
stuff
picked
up
in
a
way.
That's
not
going
to
cost
them
money.
Z
So
we
are
working
on
that.
We
are
almost
done
finalizing
that
and
once
we
do
get
that
locked
lockdown,
we
will
make
a
public
announcement
and
we'll
let
residents
of
the
city
know
when
that
date
will
be
and
how
long
it
will.
Last
for
so,
we
are
already
working
on
that
on
the
second
on
the
second
matter.
As
far
as
the
trash
itself
and
the
recyclable
bins
themselves,
the
65-gallon
bins
that
we've
distributed
throughout
the
city,
generally
speaking,
are
adequate
for
what
we're
for
families
generate
in
terms
of
trash.
Z
It's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
for
families
and
residents
to
get
used
to
trying
to
stuff
all
of
their
trash
into
these
things,
but
we
looked
at
different
cities
throughout
the
state
and
found
that
this
was
an
adequate
size
for
the
residents
of
cranston.
In
fact,
we've
had
about
1500
people
request
these
smaller
35
bins,
35
gallon
bins,
because
some
of
these
bins
are
too
big
for
them.
As
far
as
the
families
who
absolutely
positively
cannot
crush
their
boxes,
crush
their
cans
compact,
their
trash
to
fit
into
the
65
gallon
bins.
Z
They
do
have
the
option
to
purchase
the
additional
service
which
includes
the
bin
pickup
and
the
mitigation
of
the
increased
tipping
fees
that
would
be
charged
to
the
city.
All
of
that
is
encompassed
in
the
150
dollars
that
they're
being
charged,
which
really
breaks
down
to
under
three
dollars
a
week
for
pickup.
E
Council
president,
I
did
have
a
question
about
council
member
communications
that
I
asked
the
last
council
meeting,
but
unfortunately,
director
mason
was
not
here
and
since
it's
regarding
trash
and
you
segued
into
it
nicely
the
question
I
had.
If
1500
people
basically
opted
for
a
smaller
bin,
we
negotiated
the
contract.
Assuming
everyone
in
the
city
would
have
a
64
gallon
bin
and
1500
people
now
have
half
the
bin
by
default.
We
would
have
less
tonnage
going
through
than
we
anticipated.
E
So
how
are
we
going
to
build
a
rebate
in
to
get
money
back
from
waste
management
for
all
that
tonnage?
That
has
come
down?
Well,
director
mason.
You
look
confused,
but
if,
if
we
assumed
26
000
households
in
the
city
of
cranston-
and
we
assumed
everybody
has
a
64
gallon
bin
and
1500
people
have
taken
half
the
size
of
the
bin,
there's
less
trash
we're
going
to
push
through
waste
management,
so
wouldn't
it
cost
us
less.
A
E
J
E
AA
E
AA
E
I
can
get
one
for
you,
that'd,
be
excellent.
That
way
we
can
know
exactly
what's
in
150,
as
our
constituents
call
us
and
request.
You
know
why
the
why
there
is
a
150
fee,
because
we've
had
some
differences
as
we've
been
talking
through
this,
and
you
know,
as
beaucap
negotiated,
how
much
was
tonnage.
How
much
was
for
the
bin?
How
much
is
for
the
use
of
flipping
the
bin?
So
it
would
just
be
good
for
us
to
have
that
information
as
they
call
we
can
explain
it
to
them
more
effectively.
J
Yes,
director
mason
council
farina
kind
of
led
into
this,
so
we
have
1500
people
who
are
elected
to
take
a
smaller
bin,
so
people
are
buying
a
second
pin
so
from
an
operational
standpoint
from
waste
management.
So
now,
instead
of
just
coming
in
front
of
the
house
and
taking
one,
they
have
to
take
one
put
the
arm
down.
Take
the
second
put
the
arm
down
where,
if
we
took
some
of
the
savings,
maybe
from
the
1500
bins
and
gave
families
a
bigger
bin,
they
could
just
take
the
arm
in
one
big
bin.
J
Z
Z
Heroic
has
the
95
bins
because
they
did
it
10
years
ago
and
they
had
three
additional
bins,
because
at
the
time
there
was
not
single
source
stream
stream
line
disposal,
so
they
had
to
separate
into
bottles
paper
and
then
cardboard
or
different
types
of
paper.
So
again,
councilman
aceto,
that's
not
a
real,
accurate
comparison.
Z
G
G
They
seem
like
they
said
to
us.
Here's
a
here
we're
going
to
give
you
this
you're
going
to
save
250
000
dollars
did
boccat
ask
important
questions
that
we're
asking
tonight.
I
don't
think
that
happened.
I
think
it
was
here.
You
go
we're
going
to
give
you
through
65,
gallon
tanks,
take
it
or
leave
it
that
was
there
any
negotiation
for
the
larger
barrels
because,
like
I
said
it
was
quote
in
the
paper,
we
run
the
show
not
trash,
not
waste
management.
Z
C
Z
H
H
J
Z
J
AA
J
AA
J
E
Thank
you,
council
president.
You
know,
I
know
we
talked
before
about
comparing
central
falls
to
cranston
and
warwick
to
cranston,
but
I
will
remind
the
administration
that
they
got
up
there
and
said
that
providence
was
just
like
cranston
and
providence
made
it
with
the
small
bin.
So
as
we
look
at
these
municipalities,
they're
adding
the
trash
program,
you
can't
just
say
well,
cranston
is
like
this
city,
but
not
like
that
city
when
we
started
comparing
it
to
narragansett
and
other
towns
and
municipalities.
E
So
as
we
bring
this
up,
you
know
there
are
aspects
of
this
trash
program
that
this
council
really
doesn't
like
and
that
constituents
really
don't
like
in
the
whole.
I
think
the
trash
program
has
merit
and
value,
but
when
you're
campaigning-
and
you
have
a
man
get
in
his
car
and
chase-
you
down
the
street
to
discuss
the
validity
and
the
problems
with
the
trash
program.
E
There's
probably
some
issues
with
the
trash
program
and
that's
where
I
think,
as
a
councilman,
I'm
coming
from
as
I'm
getting
these
calls
from
constituents
as
I'm
fielding
them
that
I
have
broken
bins
and
I
had
a
squirrel
eat
through
a
bin.
I
thought
these
were
supposed
to
be
rat
proof,
I'm
getting
those
kind
of
calls,
and
I
will
say
the
administration
is
being
excellent
in
facilitating
them
and
helping
us
and
making
sure
we
do
the
right
things
by
the
city,
and
I
know
it's
new
people
have
to
get
used
to
it.
We
understand
that.
E
I
think
we
all
understand
that
it's
new
it'll
take
time
it'll
take
effort.
We
have
to
get
people
to
recycle
more,
but
there
are
flaws
and
I
think
if
the
administration
can
present
to
us,
as
we
talked
about
two
months
ago,
those
things
like
putting
a
dumpster
at
the
at
the
barn
having.
I
don't
want
to
call
them
amnesty
days,
but
free
pickup
days
trying
to
work
on
solutions.
E
I
think
we
can
stop
some
of
this
bickering
back
and
forth.
So
I'd
love
to
see
some
costing
some
benefit
analysis,
some
work.
That
says,
you
know
what,
if
we
have
this
day,
where
we'll
go
out
and
pick
up
white
goods
twice
a
year
for
spring
cleanup
and
fall
cleanup
it'll
cost
us
x.
That
way
we
can
work
with
the
director
of
finance
and
say:
okay,
director
strong.
This
is
what
it'll
cost
and
we
can
do
this
together
to
make
sure
we
fix
the
minor
flaws
that
we
have
in
the
program.
Z
Mr
lopez,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
councilman
farina
for
his
kind
words,
and
I
do
concur
with
you
and
you
know,
look
this
council
this.
This
program
is
barely
a
month
old,
and
you
know
the
the
call
volume
to
our
office
has
dropped
off
significantly
you're
always
going
to
have
that
vocal
minority
that
is
going
to
take
actions
like
chasing
you
down
the
street
and
look
those
people
are
always
going
to
be
there,
but
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
the
implementation
of
this
program
has
been
successful.
Z
Z
Z
Z
We
did
an
extra
pickup
for
those
neighbor
for
that
neighborhood,
because
we
knew
that
due
to
the
volume
of
people
and
trash
that
people
generate,
we
would
need
an
extra
truck.
So
we
have
that
flexibility
and
we're.
You
know
we're
working
on
it
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
I
assure
the
council
that
we
will
meet
their
concerns
and
address
a
lot
of
the
problems
that
we
have
quick
follow-up
council
president.
E
You
I
know,
like
some
of
those
ideas
actually
came
out
of
sessions
with
the
council
and
and
the
problems
you're
going
to
have
is,
as
we
keep
going
through
this
and
doing
this
dance.
If
you
don't
involve
us
in
some
of
those
discussions,
we're
going
to
keep
coming
back
at
you
because
we're
going
to
keep
getting
asked.
What
are
the
solutions?
How
are
you
solving
it?
So
I
just
implore
you
to
have
some
open
dialogue
with
us.
You
know,
I
know
you
said
to
be
patient,
but
you
know
patience
is
a
virtue.
G
Mr
president,
to
the
administration,
I'm
not
questioning,
I'm,
not
I'm
not
questioning
the
program
as
much
as
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
running
the
show
because
we
pay
the
bill.
I
want.
I
just
want
assurance
that
they're
not
telling
us
how
it
goes
that
we're
telling
them
how
it
goes.
If
you
can
tell
me
that.
Z
M
Thank
you,
council,
president.
I'll,
be
brief.
I
want
to
thank
director
mason
for
the
the
program
saturday
with
the
collecting
the
recycle
bins
it
was.
I
was
there
all
of
a
minute
in
and
out
so
it
was
run
very
smoothly
and
perhaps
maybe
you
could
use
that
as
a
model
for
maybe
a
quarterly
pickup
or
something
because
it
was
organized
so
well
that
it
was
pretty
easy
to
get
in
and
out
and
they
picked
the
stuff
right
out
of
your
trunk
and
it
was
good
and
it
was
gone.
X
Thank
you,
council
president.
Before
I
asked
my
question,
I
just
want
to
preface
my
remarks.
I
did
a
little
traveling
around
the
city
in
my
pontiac
and
and
I
I
was
basically
doing
reconnaissance
in
western
cranston
and
I
drove
along
phoenix
avenue
and
I
found
out
from
the
gazebo
to
295
was
paved,
which
is
two
and
a
half
miles.
X
Pavement
phoenix
avenue,
phoenix
ridge,
hill
crest,
three
tenths
of
a
mile
of
pavement
priscilla
drive
only
arnold
road,
four
tenths
of
a
mile
pavement
angela
drive,
half
tenth
of
a
mile,
wayland
avenue,
five
tenths
of
a
mile,
so
that's
basically
no
offense
to
councilman
ceto,
because
I
I
understand
that
you
know
all
awards
need
to
be
paved.
But
I
will
quote
a
former
colleague
councilman
pelletier
in
his
first
and
second
terms,
bragging
on
the
amount
of
pavement
he
had
in
his
ward.
X
Z
So
I'd
like
to
remind
councilman
arketto
when
he
was
in
my
office
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
asking
for
a
special
change
to
the
streets
that
we
had
selected
that
I
did
go
over
the
plan
with
you
and
in
fact
I
have
an
article
by
our
star
reporter
gregory
smith,
which
explains
the
process
that
we
use.
If
I
may
hand
this
to
the
councilman,
he
can
review
it
at
his
leisure.
Z
Z
We
try
to
combine
areas
where
the
utility
companies
have
are
or
are
are
doing,
work
or
are
planning
to
do
work.
So
that
way
we
stretch
the
taxpayer
dollar
a
lot
further.
An
example
of
that
is
a
road
that
perhaps
is
having
its
water
line
done,
and
it
would
they
would.
The
water
utility
would
tear
up
30
of
the
road.
Z
Z
The
other
final
aspect
of
this
is
obviously
I
take
council
input
into
consideration
and
whenever
possible,
we
do
try
to
accommodate
the
council
person's
request.
In
some
cases,
it's
not
possible
because
the
project
either
demands
that
it
be
done.
For
example,
howard
avenue,
as
I
went
over
with
councilman
arkhedo,
has
a
sunken
drain.
A
Z
A
barrel
over
a
sinkhole
so
for
the
cost
of
just
fixing
that
section
of
the
road
properly
for
a
little
bit
more,
we
could
do
the
whole
road.
Certainly,
we've
accommodated
councilman
arkhedo.
In
the
past,
I've
switched
roads
for
him
to
go
to
areas
that
he
preferred
and
in
our
last
meeting
I
did
leave
it
that
we
would
look
at
the
couple
of
roads
that
he
suggested
that
we
look
at
and
make
the
adjustment
accordingly.
Z
X
G
Councilman
santorini
council,
because
I
may
ask
carlos
one
more
question
on
the
great
job
on
phoenix
avenue
by
the
way
now
we're
going
to
put
up
the
school
zone
signs
in
the
speed
limit
signs,
because
that
was
an
issue
before
with
speeding
now
with
a
freshly
paved
road.
It's
I
want
to
avoid
it
from
being
indianapolis
500,
so
we're
going
to
put
school
zones
from
westin
hills
to
the
end
of
france
and
west,
and
strict
enforcement
or
speed
limit
they're
18
year
old
kids
for
crying
out
loud
they're
going
to
fly.
G
Z
M
X
C
X
AA
After
the
new
200-foot
section
of
fence
that
we
had
put
up,
there
is
one
section
of
fence
that
is
still
down
and
we
left
it
down
because
it's
at
the
very
top
of
the
of
the
hill
of
the
road
and
the
kids
use
that
as
a
cut
through
to
the
neighborhood
and
back
we're
hesitant
to
replace
that
section
of
the
fence,
because
the
kids
do
use
that,
but
we
did
go
out
there
and
did
some
additional
repairs
to
the
existing
fence.
Straightening
the
poles
out
and
reattaching
the
the
existing
chain
link
fence
to
it.
AA
AA
X
One
last
item:
council
president:
I
have
a
letter
from
a
constituent
requesting
the
administration
put
a
emergency,
no
parking
sign
up
and
I
just
want
to
submit
that
to
them
maria.
Could
you
email
mr
brown
with
this
letter,
because
he
said
it's
very
difficult
for
him
to
read
this
so
tomorrow,
could
you
eat?
Could
you
email,
mr
baroon,
this
letter,
because
he
has
difficulty
reading
this
type
text.
M
Thank
you,
council
president.
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
your
your
comments
on
the
aclu
letter.
I
I
believe
that
the
the
letter
was
so
self-serving.
I
was
disappointed
in
mr
brown
in
the
fact
that
he
took
a
cheap
shot
at
the
police
department
during
a
during
an
ongoing
case
and
using
the
tragic
case
of
a
murder
of
a
six-year-old
boy
to
follow
his
own
agenda.
M
Whatever
that
may
be,
he
took
a
lower
court
decision
or
what
he
liked
from
that
decision,
which
was
actually
overturned
five
to
nothing
by
the
supreme
court
and
used
that
as
a
basis
to
suggest
that
we
do
an
investigation
of
the
police
department
on
that.
The
the
it's
totally
inappropriate
at
this
point
in
time,
and
I'm
sure
he
knows
it.
He
said
it
was
premature,
but
it's
actually
very
inappropriate.
M
M
The
o.j
simpson
case
probably
is
the
most
notable
of
all
time
and
it
was
one
of
the
largest
police
departments
in
the
country,
so
to
suggest
that
we
need
an
investigation
every
time
a
case
is
process
is
being
processed
through
the
court
system.
That's
what
the
courts
are
for,
not
for
us
to
order
an
investigation.
M
Every
time
someone
says
they
don't
like
what
the
police
did.
So
I
think
that
there
was
really
no
need
for
it.
I
think
it
was
inappropriate
and
I'm
glad
that
council
president
doesn't
see
that
any
need
for
it
at
this
point
in
time
we
already
have
the
state
police
in
there.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
on
that
subject:.
C
Once
we
have
once
we're
privy
to
that
information,
then
we'll
look
at
mr
brown's
case
and
if
it's
ties
in
or
there's
anything
in
the
state
police
investigation
that
suggests
that
we
go
further,
I
would
not
be
adverse
to
going
further,
but
until
I
have
all
the
facts,
I
am
not
going
to
jump
the
gun.
So
if
I
remember
my
quote,
was
jump
the
gun
on
this
any
other
council
communications.
AB
We
have
two
claims
that
have
been
presented:
janice
reynon
a
proper
damage
claim
from
an
alleged
incident
on
june
8
2014
and
julia
diamante,
a
personal
injury
claim
from
alleged
incident
on
may
21st
2014,
and
that's
all
I
have
that.
That
is
to
be
referred
to
the
cleanse
committee
for
hearing
on
august
4th.