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Special Finance Committee Meeting
Special City Council Meeting
Special Finance Committee Meeting
A
B
A
First
is
going
to
be
the
advice,
consent
hearing
on
the
mayor's
appointment
of
robert
zarnitzky
as
finance
director,
and
the
second
is
going
to
be
an
ordinance
transferring
appropriations
for
that
position,
but
this
time
I'd
like
to
open
up
public
hearings
on
the
ordinance
only
so
if
anyone
is
in
council
chambers
or
on
zoom
would
like
to
make
any
comment
on
the
ordinance
at
this
time.
Please
speak
now.
D
Vasquez,
I
have
a
just
a
question
or
a
point
of
information.
I
don't
see
any
city
legal
here,
so
I'll
defer
to
our
solicitor.
We
don't
do
many
advice
and
consents.
We
have
probably
haven't
done
more
than
within
a
year
or
more
than
a
year,
just
looking
for
a
breakdown
of
what
our
role
here
is
on
this
and
just
an
overview
for
those
watching
on
youtube
and
on
zoom
as
well.
E
Good
evening,
so
the
last
time
that
this
group
did
advice
and
consents
was
back
in
back
in
january,
so
perhaps
a
little
refresher
for
the
council
on
you
know
what's
the
council's
province
when
it
comes
to
advice
and
consent.
So
when
a
nomination
is
received
by
the
mayor's
office,
this
committee
is
designed
to
act
as
the
vetting
mechanism
to
provide
advice
and
consent
with
a
recommendation
to
the
full
council.
The
nomination
was
received.
E
As
far
as
I
know,
on
march
8th,
I
didn't
get
a
copy
of
it,
but
my
understanding
is
that
by
way
of
email
it
was
transmitted
to
the
council
in
an
undated
letter
from
mayor
hopkins,
which
is
march
8th,
so
the
transmission
date
would
be
march
8th.
This
committee
has
30
days
from
march
8th
to
provide
a
recommendation,
and
thereafter
the
full
council,
based
on
the
committee's
recommendation,
has
45
days
to
act
on
the
nomination,
so
you're
acting
timely
within
within
the
30
days.
E
Someone
might
say:
well
what
happens
if
we
don't
act
within
the
30
days
as
a
committee,
then
the
law
is
clear
in
the
city
and
it
simply
is
that
the
that
the
the
recommendation
is
deemed
to
be
favorable,
so
failure
of
this
committee
to
act
either
to
provide
its
advice
and
consent
or
to
withhold
its
advice
and
consent
would
would
essentially
be
a
favorable
recommendation.
So
those
are
the
time
frames.
So
what's
what's
the
role?
E
Usually
when
you
know
this
committee
or
any
committee
of
the
council
meets
there's
a
motion,
that's
put
on
the
floor,
the
motion
is
seconded
and
then
there's
discussion.
Nominations
are
different.
You
know
this
committee
will
essentially
vet
the
nominee
ask
questions
of
the
administration.
I
would
assume,
as
they
did
in
january,
that
the
administration
will
have
a
presentation
relative
to
the
nominee
and
then
there'll
be
a
q,
a
from
this
committee
to
and
with
the
administration
and
even
perhaps
the
nominee.
E
It
is
after
that
that
the
committee
will
then
entertain
a
vote
or
a
motion.
I
should
say
of
some
kind.
This
is
not
scheduled
for
public
comment.
This
is
a
confirmation
here,
not
a
confirmation
hearing,
but
an
advice
and
consent
hearing.
It
is
not
a
violation
of
the
open
meetings
act
if
there
is
no
public
participation
and
it
is
not
set
up
as
such
for
this
evening,
just
to
be
clear
and
also
to
be
clear.
E
It's
it's
that
simple,
in
addition
to
which
those
non-committee
members
are
not
able
to
make
motions-
and
I
know
that
I've
seen
in
the
past
and
things
have
been
corrected,
where
you've
had
some
non-committee
members
in
other
committee
meetings
on
ordinances,
who've
made
motions-
that's
not
appropriate
here
this
evening
for
sure
so
and
then
we
get
to
well.
What
actual
motions
should
you
be?
E
What's
the
basis
for
this
nominee
to
come
before
the
council?
To
as
a
refresher
section
five,
I
should
say
chapter
five
of
the
charter,
which
is
the
section
on
executive
on
the
chief
executive.
Section
5.02
requires
that
the
mayor
with
the
advice
and
consent
of
the
city
council,
hired
department,
heads
and
specifically
it
says
the
mayor
with
the
advice
and
consent
of
the
city
council,
has
the
power
to
appoint
heads
of
all
departments.
E
That's
number
one
number
two
you
say
well
is
the
nomination
before
us
tonight
ahead
of
a
department.
Yes,
it
is.
If
you
go
to
chapter
seven
of
the
charter
7.02,
you
will
find
a
listing
for
the
finance
director
and
it
indicates
there
that
the
finance
director
shall
be
appointed
by
the
mayor,
as
provided
in
5.02
of
the
charter.
So
this
is
properly
before
you
you'll
also
notice
that
in
section
7.02
of
the
charter,
it
lists
the
qualifications
generally
and
the
duties
to
be
performed
by
the
finance
director.
E
I'm
sure
that
you've
taken
a
chance
to
look
at
that,
and
this
is
much
the
same
process
by
the
way
for
the
director
of
public
works
that
will
come
before
you
at
some
point.
I
I'm
aware
that
there's
an
appointment
coming
up
on
that
that
nominee
will
appear
before
this
finance
committee
and
that
job
description,
if
you
will,
is
a
chapter
10
in
the
charter
at
section
10.02
that
addresses
the
director
of
public
works.
E
So
this
count
this
committee
will
vote
tonight
to
give
its
advice
and
consent
or
not
give
its
advice
and
consent.
That
will
be
the
recommendation
of
the
committee
by
vote
to
the
full
council.
That
does
not
mean,
however,
that
the
full
council,
like
anything
else
that
comes
before
the
full
council,
has
to
take
that
recommendation.
E
E
The
council
has
30
days
within
which,
and
certainly
if
the
failure
of
this
committee
to
act
within
45
days,
it's
very
clear
so
part
d
says
that
if
the
finance
committee
does
not
act
within
45
days
of
receiving
the
nomination,
then
the
appointment
will
be
considered
recommended
to
the
full
council
for
consent
at
the
next
scheduled
city
council
meeting.
That
does
not,
however,
mean
that
the
council
that
the
full
council
at
its
vote
is
bound
to
that
recommendation.
E
So
then
we
get
to
sub
part
e.
That
says
that
no
nominee
requiring
the
advice
and
consent
of
the
city
council
shall
work
in
the
position
for
which
he
is
seeking
advice
and
consent
until
and
unless
the
city
council
shall
vote
in
the
affirmative.
On
the
question
of
the
nominee's
approval
for
the
position,
that's
the
full
city
council.
So
there
is
an
exception
for
an
acting
director,
that's
subject
to
advice
and
consent.
When
that
acting
director
is
already
a
departmental
employee.
E
We
needn't
get
into
that,
because
mr
zarnetsky
does
not
work
within
that
department
and
clearly
subpart
e
says
that
if
the
vote
of
the
full
council
is
to
deny
advice
and
consent
to
the
nominee
that
the
nominee
shall
not
be
employed
in
the
position,
it
may
not
be
nominated
for
that
position
for
at
least
six
more
months
and
that's
the
general
framework.
I
read
through
it.
E
A
F
C
G
G
H
Thank
you
very
much
good
afternoon,
mayor
hopkins
and
city
council
members
on
behalf
of
mayor
hopkins.
It
is
my
pleasure
to
introduce
and
request
your
recommendation
for
advice
and
consent
to
appoint
mr
robert
zaneski
as
the
next
finance
director
of
the
city
of
cranston
rob
comes
to
us
from
a
prayer
from
a
career
of
public
service
of
nearly
three
decades,
with
federal
state
and
municipal
governments.
H
Rob's
vast
experience
in
government
didn't
end
there
for
over
six
years,
rob
served
the
city
of
norwich
connecticut,
including
assistant
and
city
manager.
For
approximately
four
years
there
robin
park
instituted
a
performance-based
budgeting
system
which
resulted
in
reductions
in
costs
and
property
taxes.
H
Most
recently,
rob
became
known
to
the
administration
as
rhode,
island's
senior
economic
and
policy
analyst
for
the
department
of
ryland
department
of
administration's
pandemic
recovery
office
appointed
by
governor
mckee.
He
was
assist.
He
has
assisted
the
state
in
all
municipalities
in
navigating
through
the
american
rescue
plan,
act
arpa.
H
H
Rob's
experience
extends
beyond
all
of
his
career
credentials.
Rob
has
his
ba
from
eastern
connecticut
state
university,
a
masters
of
arts
from
the
university
of
connecticut,
a
masters
of
education
from
harvard
university,
a
phd
candidate
from
the
university
of
massachusetts,
and
he
is
an
attorney
graduated
from
the
university
of
oregon
school
of
law.
H
H
As
our
finance
director,
we
will
be
fortunate
to
have
him
rob.
Zaneski
is
more
than
an
extremely
credentialed
professional.
He
is
an
honest
and
forthright
person
that
calls
balls
and
strikes.
He
doesn't
waiver
for
political
favor,
rob
isn't
taking
this
job
for
financial
reasons.
In
fact,
he
is
accepting
this
position
foregoing
much
greater
financial
opportunities.
H
Rob
has
taken
this
role
so
that
he
can
help
make
cranston
better.
He
is
a
true
public
servant
to
the
core.
Cranston
has
a
unique
opportunity
to
acquire
the
talents,
experiences
and
character
of
such
a
qualified
individual.
Our
city
deserves
rob.
Zanetsky
may
hopkins
respectfully
request
your
recommendation
for
advice
and
consent
of
him
if
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to
kindly
introduce
mr
rob
zaneski
to
the
council.
I
I
To
give
the
council
or
the
committee
the
opportunity
to
ask
me
questions,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
most
productive
way
to
get
to
any
concerns
or
any
questions
you
might
have
asking.
The
questions
is
a
way
to
get
to
the
answers,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
the
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
tonight
before
you
and
ask
for
your
consent
to
mayor
hopkins
nomination
of
me
to
this
position.
I
D
Thank
you
chair,
appreciate
it,
mr
zarneski,
thank
you
for
being
here
today
to
be
honest
with
you.
For
the
past
week,
I've
been
driving
around
with
a
notepad,
because
I've
had
like
a
million
questions
to
ask
you.
Some
have
been
answered
through
mr
moretti's
speech.
Some
have
been
answered
through
your
resume.
I've
spilled
coffee
on
this
pad.
I
can't
read
my
own
handwriting,
so
just
bear
with
me
I'm
going
to
ask
you
a
few
and
we'll
muddle
through
this
together
and
I
apologize.
D
If
some
of
these
questions
you
might
have
already
answered
my
first
one
was
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself.
You
already
did
that
my
next
question
would
be.
Is
there
any
work
experience
that
might
have
been
left
out
from
the
presentation
that
was
given
that
you
think
would
be
beneficial
for
us
to
know.
I
Yes,
I
have
a
long
and
storied
past
I
I
guess
the
thing
that
I
I
would
have
you
think
about
with
regard
to
public
finance
and
budgeting
in
particular,
is
that
I've
done
budgeting
pretty
much
at
every
level
of
government.
I,
when
working
in
the
us
senate,
I
worked
for
paul
sarbanes
as
well
as
senator
chris
dodd.
I
worked
on
the
banking
committee
and
I
worked
doing
budget
appropriations
for
senator
dodd
for
several
years,
so
I've
been
involved
in
development
of
the
federal
budget.
I
I
had
the
opportunity,
as
a
very
young
government
employee,
to
actually
do
defenses
of
the
bureau
of
transportation
statistics
budget
at
omb,
so
I've
been
involved
in
budgeting
for
a
very
long
time
in
norwich
as
the
assistant
city
manager
and
then
as
manager.
I
was
responsible
for
making
sure
that
we
developed
a
budget
that
met
the
needs
of
a
community
that
was
under
tremendous
economic
pressure.
I
At
the
time,
norwich
had
not
seen
the
sort
of
growth
that
other
communities
in
connecticut
had
seen
and
the
costs
were
going
up,
not
unlike
the
circumstance
that
we
see
in
cranston
right
now
because
of
the
pandemic.
You've
not
seen
a
tax
increase
in
cranston
in
the
last
three
years,
but
your
expenses
have
continued
to
grow
over
those
three
years.
That's
that's
a
challenge.
It's
a
challenge.
I
Steve
used
had
set
up
and
used,
and
we
used
when
I
was
in
south
kingstown
what
we
call
a
program
budgeting,
a
program
budget,
it's
a
it's
a
budget
is
a
planned
program
budget.
The
idea
is
that
you're
going
to
plan
your
work,
you
budget
to
your
plan,
and
then
you
execute
your
plan.
It's
a
very
clean,
simple
way
of
doing
budgeting.
It
seems
logical,
it
seems
like
everybody
ought
to
be
doing
it.
It's
not
what
every
government
does
it's
not
the
way
everybody
goes
about.
D
I
I
There
are
challenges
in
cranston's,
financial
universe
and
in
the
environment.
Here
I
mean
we've
got
the
pension
deficit.
That's
got
to
be
dealt
with
over
the
long
haul.
There
are
some
opeb
shortfalls
that
need
to
be
addressed,
but
the
operating
shortfall
on
an
annual
basis
is
really
it's
really
a
challenge.
It's
something
that's
going
to
have
to
be
dealt
with.
It's
something
that's
going
to
have
to
be
brought
back
into
balance.
I
It's
not
in
balance
right
now,
your
expenditures
with
regard
to
the
health
and
medical
program,
the
current
health
and
medical
program,
not
the
opeb
health
expenses,
is
out
of
whack.
It's
been
short
now
for
three
or
four
consecutive
years.
The
deficit.
There
is
nearly
seven
million
dollars.
It
needs
to
be
reduced
that
this
budget
actually
does.
I
That
makes
that
reduction
makes
that
payment
and
gets
you
even
again,
but
even
at
the
projections
you're
looking
at
for
next
year,
you're
going
to
be
potentially
short
and
the
way
that
this
works
is
that
you
guess
at
what
your
experience
is
going
to
be
next
year.
You
guess
at
how
much
you're
going
to
spend
on
hospitalization
for
city
employees.
I
I
I
That
number
gets
us
to.
I
believe
it
was
eleven
seven,
eleven
million
seven
hundred
thousand
the
actual
experience
last
year
was
thirteen
five.
So
getting
to
eleven
seven
is
good.
It's
ten
percent
more
than
the
estimate
was
last
year,
but
if
our
experience
next
year
is
the
same
as
our
experience
this
year
has
been
we're,
gonna
be
short
again.
I
So
it's
it's
really
important
for
us
to
be
thinking
about
where
we
can
economize
thinking
about
where
we
can
adjust
some
of
our
estimates.
It
doesn't
do
any
so
back
when
I
was
starting
out
in
the
federal
government.
There
was
a
omb
director
who
used
to
talk
about
the
rosy
scenario
the
rose
rose-colored
glasses,
always
coming
on.
When
you
were
talking
about
revenue
estimates
and
when
you
had
discretion
to
guess
at
what
your
expenditures
were
again
guessing
so
that
things
looked
like
they
were
more
imbalanced.
We
can't
have
rose-colored
glasses.
I
We
need
at
this
point
in
time
to
really
be
honest
about
our
projections
with
regard
to
revenues,
and
we
need
to
be
honest
about
our
projections
with
regard
to
expenses,
where
we
have
the
discretion
to
make
an
estimate.
Quite
often
those
are
tied,
and
we
know
those
numbers
because
they're
just
going
to
be
what
they
are
they're,
an
extrapolation
from
current
expenditure,
plus
inflation
or
something
like
that.
D
The
reason
I
asked
that
question
is
in
your
position
as
town
manager.
When
you
had
the
finance
directors.
Did
you
have
any
direct?
I
don't
know
how
to
say
this
back
and
forth,
or
did
you
work
with
the
auditors
that
came
in?
Did
you
have
any
experience
working
with
the
state
auditor
general
in
that
position.
I
Every
single
day
I
worked
with
the
finance
director,
no
decision
was
made
by
the
finance
director
without
my
participation.
In
that
decision
I
was
constantly
in
contact
with
the
finance
director.
Finance
director
in
south
kingston
is
also
the
position
responsible
for
contracting
contracting
is
actually
one
of
my
sort
of
fortes.
I
If
you
will
it's
one
of
the
things
that
I
love
to
do,
I'm
a
contract
person
worked
on
contracts
in
the
federal
government,
cared
about
contracts
in
norwich
served
as
a
private
attorney
for
a
number
of
years,
and
much
of
my
business
was
around
developing
contracts
for
small
businesses
and
setting
small
businesses
up.
So
when
I
got
to
south
kingstown,
I
was
involved
very
involved
in
helping
to
develop
a
new
approach
to
contracting
that
improved
the
efficiency
of
things
a
bit.
D
Yeah,
I
have
a
lot
of
questions,
but
I'll
just
ask
one
more
then
I'll
defer
it
to
the
kick
to
the
committee.
Obviously
the
charter,
have
you
read
the
charter?
I
have
the
charter
section,
tell
you
what
it
is:
7.02,
a
through
l
kind
of
lists,
the
qualifications
of
the
finance
director.
What
we're
looking
for
and
in
there
is
a
a
part-
that's
pretty
important
to
me.
It's
part
about
accounting.
I
So
I
am
not
a
cpa
and
I'm
not
an
accountant.
I've
studied
accounting.
I've
had
accounting
courses,
but
no
I'm
not
an
accountant
and
then,
in
fact,
if
you
were
looking
for
an
accounting
technician,
if
that's
what
the
the
city
needed,
if
that's
what
the
mayor
had
suggested,
was
necessary
and
if,
in
talking
to
people
and
looking
at
the
finances
in
the
city,
I
had
come
to
the
conclusion
that
what
you
need
is
an
accountant,
and
I
know
the
charter
doesn't
require
an
accountant.
I
It
needs
someone
who
is
familiar
with
public
finance
and
the
accounting
function
within
a
public
organization.
If
you
were
in
need
of
a
technical
accountant,
a
technician
who
did
fine
accounting,
I
wouldn't
be
your
right-
wouldn't
be
the
right
pick.
I
am
a
generalist.
I
am
an
attorney
who
is
certainly
capable
of
understanding
accounting
rules
and
ensuring
systems
are
in
place
to
enforce
those
rules.
Accounting
rules,
accounting
standards
are
just
that
they're
they're,
just
rules
they're
the
regulations
that
control
how
the
bookkeeping
gets
done.
I
That's
what
they
are.
There's
there's
nothing
about
accounting
rules
that
is
vastly
different
than
any
other
regulatory
or
or
statutory
system.
It's
just
a
system
of
maintaining
a
way
of
doing
things.
It's
these
are
the
rules
we
follow
when
keeping
the
books
from
keeping
track
of
the
expenditures
and
the
revenues
that
are
coming
into
the
into
the
city.
I
I
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
convinced
that
just
getting
the
the
columns
to
line
up
or
to
to
balance
is
what
you
need.
You've
got
columns
that
balance,
but
that
balance
is
not
contributing
to
the
long-term
health
of
the
community.
To
do
that,
you
need
to
figure
out
where
the
revenue
might
be
increased
and
that
means
being
savvy
about
going
out
and
looking
for
grants.
Looking
for
other
revenue
sources,
you
need
someone
who's
thinking
about
how
to
keep
expenditures
down
who's
who's,
not
going
to
say,
oh
what
the
heck.
I
I
Three
years
no
tax
increase
three
years
expenditure
increases
particularly
around
labor,
because
that's
you
know,
that's
the
big
chunk
of
any
any
municipal
budget.
We
can't
we
can't
continue
on
this
path.
This
is
not
sustainable.
So
it's
a
programmatic,
again
approach
to
budgeting.
The
budget
shouldn't
drive
the
program.
I
Opportunity
challenge
for
me,
because
the
need
is
so
clear.
You've
looked
at
the
budget,
I
mean
you
asked:
have
I
seen
the
budget
you
guys
have
looked
at
the
budget
too.
You
know
that
we
need
to
be
more,
it's
not
just
disciplined.
We
need
to
be
more
disciplined
and
more
creative
and
those
are
two
really
interesting
things
for
someone
who
cares
about
public
administration.
Those
are
really
those
are
the
idea
that
using
the
right
carrots
and
sticks
is
going
to
get
us
to
a
strong
financial
footing.
I
F
J
K
K
I
What
I
would
suggest
to
the
committee
and
to
the
council
is
that
the
finance
director
that
you
need
isn't
necessarily
an
accountant
you
have
accounting
staff
mike
igo
in
particular,
is
very
good
at
what
he
does
known
across
the
state
as
being
very
good
at
what
he
does.
What
you
need
is
is
financial
leadership.
What
you
need
in
the
city
of
cranston
is
a
generalist
who
brings
discipline
and
creativity
to
the
financial
environment
of
the
of
the
community.
I
I
can
do
that
for
you.
If
that's
not
what
this
council
this
committee,
this
city
wants.
That's
fine.
I
do
think
that
I
can
make
the
city
of
cranston
stronger
financially
over
the
next
several
years.
I
I
am
after
having
spoken
to
staff
here,
after
speaking
to
the
mayor,
after
looking
at
your
finances
at
looking
after
looking
at
the
net
position
statements,
I
am
convinced
that
there
are
steps
that
can
be
taken.
I
K
Also,
have
you
ever
served
as
a
cfo
at
all?
No,
I
have
not,
and
with
respect
to
your
law
degree,
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
many
people
that
graduate
law
school
do
not
actually
carry
on
with
an
actual
practice
or
are
admitted.
I
noticed
on
your
resume
that
you
were
admitted
in
a
couple
of
jurisdictions,
washington,
dc
and
connecticut.
Those
bar
licenses
still
active.
K
K
It
specifically
gives
us
the
criteria
for
the
director
of
finance,
and
it
doesn't
say
that
the
person
should
be
familiar
with
it
says.
The
person
in
this
category
should
be
skilled
in
governmental,
accounting,
budgeting
and
financial
administration,
and
the
concern
that
I
have
is
that
your
background
seems
more
suited
towards
policy,
which
is
not
what
this,
if
I
can
just.
I
K
Which
is
not
what
this
position
is,
and
it's
not
for
us,
as
council
members
or
as
mayor,
to
change
the
requirements
of
this
position.
Precisely
for
the
reason
that
myself
and-
and
you
know,
I'm
sure
everyone
cares
about
the
longevity
of
the
financial
well-being
of
of
the
city
and
that's
what's
giving
me
pause
this
evening.
I
I
I
I
have
managed
the
finances,
including
the
functions
that
are
within
the
purview
of
the
finance
director
here
in
cranston,
including
contracting,
including
the
I.t
function.
I've
been
manager
of
it
in
order
to
ensure
the
financial
documents
and
records
are
well
maintained
and
as
far
as
the
accounting,
I
am
skilled
sufficiently
to
be
able
to
read
the
statements
that
are
are
being
produced
by
staff.
I
am
certainly
capable
of
producing
a
net
position
statement
and
I
am
capable
of
ensuring
that
that
work
is
is
conducted
by
people
who
work
in
the
finance
department.
I
I
have
been
engaged
with
those
materials,
those
documents
again
for
more
than
a
decade.
I
am
skilled.
The
question
you
know
is:
is
the
skill
set
that
I
offer
the
right
skill
set
for
this
community
and
if
the
answer
to
the
question
that
this
committee
and
that
the
council
comes
to
us,
no,
we
need
someone
who
fills
the
columns.
I
Then
again,
that's
a
technical
accounting
skill
set.
The
charter
calls
for
skill
in
account
in
public
accounting,
not
a
not
a
particular
type
of
accounting
activity.
But
if
that's
the
skill
set
that
the
council
and
the
committee
believes
is
necessary,
I
understand
I
do
think
that
you
would
be
better
served
honestly
have
a
more
global
perspective.
I
K
K
K
To
quote
some
of
it,
you
said
of
all
things:
I've
been
lucky
enough
to
do
being,
a
town
manager
has
been
the
most
challenging
because
of
the
framework.
Local
government
systems
are
not
particularly
complex,
but
what
makes
local
management
so
difficult
is
the
context,
and
then
you
proceeded
to
go
on
and
describe
basically,
what
some
might
say
is
the
small
nature
of
not
taking
a
look
at
the
big
picture.
I
K
You
continued
on
to
say
when
it
comes
to
our
own
homes
and
our
hometowns
familiarity-
and
you
would
put
quote
I
know
so
and
so
entitlement
I've
lived
here
since
you
put
in,
quotes,
nostalgia
and
you
put
in
quotes.
I
remember
when,
and
self-interest
often
overwhelm
whatever
objectivity
we
might
otherwise
bring
to
bear
in
any
given
question.
The
flash
point
for
local
passions
is
extremely
low
when
it
comes
to
local
government.
A
C
I
Sure
I
was
hired
on
as
the
town
manager
in
december
of
2018.
is
that
right,
17
or
18.
came
on
board
and
went
to
work.
You
know
doing
doing
my
thing.
We
produced
several
no,
inter
no
increase
budgets
and
during
the
last
budget
cycle
that
I
was
there,
there
was
a
lot
of
contention
over
a
school
construction
project.
I
I
I
Contribution
from
local
tax
dollars,
I
went
forward
with
a
zero
increase
budget
for
the
school
board
for
the
school
committee
and
for
the
school
district
figuring
that
we'd.
You
know
relieve
some
pressure
on
the
question
of
whether
or
not
the
bond
should
be
approved.
Let's
not
have
an
increase
here
and
an
increase
in
the
debt
service
and
liability
for
bond
repayment,
and
I
thought,
frankly
that
that
was
going
to
help
the
community
resolve
some
of
this
conflict.
I
I
M
I
Is
thank
you
and
I
I
will
say
this
about
affordability,
you're
right.
We
need
to
figure
out
how
to
be
disciplined
about
salaries
and
wages.
I
simply
cannot
afford
not
to
have
the
salary.
That's
in
that
ordinance
because,
as
tony
had
indicated,
I'm
stepping
out
of
a
position
where
I'm
making
more
money.
Now-
and
I
you
know
it
would
just
not
be
economically
feasible
for
me
not
to
do
that
not
to
take
that
that
increase,
I
need
it
and
I'm
sorry
I
wish
I
could
simply
say
I
don't
and
hell.
F
F
It
sounds
like
you
are
ready
to
make
hard
decisions
about
this
budget
and
in
general,
that
you're
not
afraid
to
do
that,
because
you
are
coming
to
it
to
a
city
where
the
the
town
council,
everyone,
I
would
say,
80
of
us-
are
born
and
raised
here
in
cranston
the
mayor
same
thing.
So
I
can
appreciate
that,
but
I
would
ask
what
would
you
have
done
differently
in
south
kingston
to
maybe
mend
some
of
the
the
ties
with
the
council
or
get
people
to
understand
your
perspective
better?
F
I
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
I
am
willing
to
make
hard
decisions.
I
am
willing
to
give
difficult
advice,
I'm
willing
to
say
no
and
I'm
willing
to
tell
people
the
truth.
The
way
that
this
is
often
said
on
on
in
some
parliaments
is
speaking
truth
to
power.
I
I
really
think
that's
important,
I
I
don't
see
it
as
as
some
great
human
attribute
or
superpower
or
anything
like
that.
I
just
see
it
as
back
to
the
concept
of
duty.
I
I
So
I
suppose
if
the
opportunity
had
arisen
to
have
that
correcting
conversation
to
to
say
this
is
how
I
see
it.
What
do
you?
What
do
you?
What
do
you
think
we
should
do
you
know?
Is
there
a
different
perspective
on
this?
I
would
have
done
that
in
a
heartbeat
that
opportunity,
in
my
view,
in
in
under
the
charter
in
south
kingstown,
came
after
the
submission
of
a
budget
in
order
to
abide
by
open
meeting
laws.
That
was
not
a
series
of
one-off
rolling
meetings
with
members
of
council.
That
was,
you
present
the
budget.
I
You
explain
the
budget
and
the
council
has
the
authority
at
that
point
to
amend
the
budget
this.
That
council,
as
as
I
mentioned,
did
not
amend
that
did
not
change
the
budget,
but
the
ill
feeling
that
the
conversation
didn't
happen
in
a
different
context
was
still
there.
So
finding
clever
ways
to
have
conversations
that
don't
violate
open
meeting
rules
is
something
that
was
worth
exploring.
I
suppose.
F
I
So
I
really
do
wish.
I
could
I
mean
I
really
do
I.
I
I've
explained
that
my
interest
in
this
position
is
that
it's
a
really
intriguing,
interesting
problem
to
help
solve.
I
love
solving
public
problems.
I
love
that.
That's
that's!
That's.
What
gets
me
up
in
the
morning.
It's
what
I
love
to
do
more
than
anything
else.
F
K
L
K
I
N
Thank
you
for
coming
out
and
I
do
respect
all
your
background
and
your
knowledge,
but
I
am
truly
concerned
with
you
resigning
from
the
south
kingstown
position.
We
are
in
some
trying
times
here
in
cranston
we're
facing
a
tax
hike
and
it
could
get
pretty
heated
here
too,
and
I
want
to
be
sure
that
we
don't
left
without
a
finance
director
at
in
the
near
future.
I
So
I
I
will
say
this:
I
did
not
resign
in
south
kingstown
because
I
couldn't
stand
the
heat
in
the
kitchen.
I
resigned
in
south
kitch
in
south
kingstown,
because
the
folks
in
the
kitchen
said
this
is
our
kitchen
and
the
majority
of
us
are
having
difficulty
and
through
conversation
with
that
majority
concluded.
That
resignation
was
the
best
for
all
parties.
A
A
A
A
Probably
exceeds
many
others
that
could
come
forward
today
in
the
state,
but
I
don't
see
you
able
to
fill
the
columns.
We
look.
I
think
that
we're
looking
as
a
council
and
as
a
finance
committee
we're
looking
for
somebody
that
can
fill
both
those
positions
and
I
know
you've
searched
hard,
and
I
know
that
you
said
you
only
had
six
applicants,
but
my
concerns
are
that
we
need
somebody
that
can
fill
both
of
those
requirements
and
it's
nothing.
Personal.
I
So
if
I
may,
though,
I
I
actually
am
very
comfortable
with
the
idea
that
I
can
fill
columns,
I
just
don't
think
that's
what
you
need.
What
I
think
you
need
is
somebody
to
work
with
the
staff
that
does
that.
What
I
think
you
need
is
financial
planning.
What
I
think
you
need
is
financial
resources
being
brought
into
the
community.
You
need
somebody
who
can
deal
with
the
state
and
federal
agencies
and
figure
out
where
the
funding
is
coming
from.
So,
for
example,
I
mean
arpa
is
one
source
of
funds.
I
The
truth
of
the
matter
is
much
of
the
arpa
funding
that
is
coming
into
cranston,
in
all
likelihood
is
going
to
have
to
simply
go
toward
deficit
reduction
you're
not
going
to
have
those
resources.
The
way
that
you'd
like
to
have
them
for
innovative
projects.
Because
of
the
current
state
of
finance
that
having
been
said,
there's
more
federal
money
out
there,
the
infrastructure,
improvement
and
jobs
act
is
going
to
be
bringing
discretionary
funds
of
making
discretionary
funds
available
to
municipalities,
but
you've
got
to
go
out
and
ask
for
them.
I
The
first
thing
we
did
when
I,
when
I
became
a
city
manager,
was
go
out
and
look
for
state
and
federal
funds,
and
in
the
first
year
that
we
started
lobbying
the
state
capital
and
and
the
congress
we
got
21
million
dollars,
which
was
an
unheard
of
amount
of
money
for
the
city
of
norwich
connecticut.
We
need
to
be
doing
things
like
that
and
that
doesn't
get
done
by
simply
fixating
on
the
columns.
The
columns
are
clear.
The
columns
you
know
have
to
be
have
to
add
up.
They
have
to
balance.
I
There's
no
doubt
about
that.
The
net
position
for
the
the
city
has
to
be
balanced
on
a
daily
basis
and
I'm
not
telling
you
that
I'm
going
to
ignore
the
daily
cash
flow
reports.
Of
course,
I'm
not
going
to
ignore
those
reports
we're
going
to
pay
attention
I'm
going
to
pay
attention.
I
will
personally
be
on
top
of
all
of
those
reports
and
making
sure
that,
when
flags
arise,
I'm
rallying
with
the
staff
and
figuring
out
what's
happening
and
figuring
out
what
needs
to
be
done.
I
That's
what
an
accountant
is
going
to
do
for
you
too,
what
the
accountant,
if
you
don't
find
the
right
one
isn't
going
to
do,
for
you
is
figure
out
where
the
money
is,
how
to
go,
get
it
and
how
to
use
those
new
sources
of
revenue
to
improve
the
community
and
what
the
the
account
the
wrong
account
accounts.
There
are
certainly
accountants
who
will
tell
you.
This
is
the
way
I
see
it
and
we're
in
trouble.
D
Since
we're
butting
up
on
well,
we've
we've
blown
right
by
the
time
that
we're
supposed
to
do
public
comments.
So
that's
the
next
meeting
and
we
have
the
meaning
after
that,
on
the
school
department
on
our
other
committees.
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
and
part
of
this
motion
I'm
going
to
make
is
because
I
want
to
give
the
opportunity
for
everybody
on
the
council
to
be
able
to
speak
tomorrow
at
the
full
council
to
decide
what
we're
going
to
do.
So,
I'm.
L
D
To
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
advice
and
consent
of
mr
zarneski
in
the
finance
committee,
but
I
under
discussion
chair
if
that
gets
a
second
I'm
going
to
be
clear,
that
I
reserve
the
right
to
vote
the
other
way
tomorrow.
I
would
like
to
have
another
night
to
think
about
this.
If,
if
this
motion
gets
a
second.
F
D
Yeah
just
to
follow
up
on
my
motion,
the
accounting
part
of
it,
you
know,
really
sticks
in
my
head.
I
appreciate
that
you're
a
global
thinker.
I
think
that's
great.
I
do
think
we
need
that,
but
I
would
also
like
to
hear
from
my
other
colleagues
on
the
council
as
well
tomorrow
and
that's
the
path
for
on.
So
that's
that's
the
motion
that
I
made
and
if
it
passes
we'll
we'll
have
that
tomorrow,
we'll
have
it
either.
L
F
Thank
you
when
we
do
have
more
time
to
ask
questions,
councilman,
ferry
or
through
the
president,
will
the
people
already
asked
questions
be
able
to
to
ask
more?
I
would
definitely
like
to
ask
questions
regarding
the
federal
grantee
financial
management
and
your
experience
with
that,
because
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
very
important
and
we
didn't
really
get
too
into
it.
K
O
M
C
F
D
D
D
Yeah,
I'm
going
to
make
a
recommendation
for
no
recommendation
tomorrow,
because
if
it
dies
here
in
committee,
it
wouldn't
have
an
opportunity
for
everybody
on
the
council
to
speak
on
this
tomorrow.
I
think
it's
part
of
the
discussion
that
we
might
get
into
tomorrow,
so
it
just
gives
everybody
that
opportunity
and
because
I
feel
like
if
we
do
talk
about
it
now,
we
could
argue
about
it
for
a
half
hour
an
hour
and
we
have
budget
hearings.
A
B
D
A
I
I
D
Good
evening,
everyone
tom,
are
we
good
to
go
rose?
Are
you
good?
That's,
okay,
all
right
we're
going
to
start
in
a
second
just
for
everybody's
knowledge.
It's
been
a
couple
of
years
since
we've
been
in
chambers
for
budget
hearings,
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
meeting
where
we
do
public
comment
for
anything
on
the
budget
once
we're
done
with
that,
we'll
close
it
I'll
hand
the
meeting
over
to
chairman
ferry
of
the
finance
committee
to
start
with
the
school
department
budget
at
this
time.
D
D
President,
since
I
see
no
one
on
zoom,
but
I
will
ask,
is
there
anybody
on
zoom
for
public
comment?
There's
no
public
comment.
Okay,
I
will
close
public
comment
for
zoom
and
I
will
go
to
in
chambers.
You
can
come
up
one
at
a
time
name.
An
address
for
the
record.
Try
to
limit
yourself
to
four
minutes
and
the
floor
is
yours.
Thank
you
make
sure
the
green
light
is
on
on
the
microphone.
P
P
Last
time
I
ever
came
to
a
budget
hearing
for
the
city
was
when
mayor
napolitano
was
mayor,
and
the
reason
I'm
coming
here
is
to
tell
you
something
that
you're
not
going
to
hear
from
probably
everyone
else
who
comes
after
me
for
days
on
end
and
weeks,
which
is
that
when
I
looked
at
this
budget,
you
guys
really
need
to
do
some
spending
cuts
here.
People
I
mean
you
have
a
structural
deficit,
as
you
know,
about
12.4
million
dollars
you're
using
one-time
revenue
source
of
arbor
funds.
P
Unless
you
get
your
structural
deficit
under
control,
you're
going
to
use
almost
all
your
opera
funds
for
basically
trying
to
keep
tax
increases
below
three
percent
a
year
for
the
next
few
years,
and
I'm
not
exaggerating
12.4
million-
is
a
significant
amount
of
money.
I'm
not
talking
about
the
7
million.
That's
a
one-time
transfer
of
funds
about
1.8
million
1.9
is
equal
to
one
percent
of
your
taxes.
P
And
I'll
tell
you
that
I
know
it's
difficult
to
cut
spending.
It's
actually
easier
to
raise
taxes
politically
than
cut
spending.
I
found
because
I've
just
seen
that
historically
but
I'll
tell
you
one
thing
I
can
tell
from
being
on
the
charter
commission
and
the
amendment
we
put
forward
that
limited
tax
increases
to
three
percent.
It
passed
with
86
percent
of
the
vote.
P
P
Q
Q
Q
Q
In
fact,
before
mckee's
budget,
which
level
funded
everything
we
were
actually
going
to
be
receiving
less
from
the
burden
back
to
you
guys
to
give
us
the
money,
that's
just
not
right
and
until
the
state
gets
their
act
together.
Unfortunately,
we're
going
to
have
to
come
to
you
and
ask
for
those
funds.
The
mayor
mentioned
that
there's
very
I'm
not
going
to
look
at
this
anymore.
Mayor
mentioned,
like
there's
a
lot
of
increases
in
the
city
budget,
for
example
fuel
heating
things
of
that
nature.
Q
Q
So
are
we
and
just
to
remind
you,
every
salary
budget
that
we've
passed
has
had
to
come
before
you
to
be
passed
as
well?
I
know
this
is
a
difficult
time.
I
know
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
tough
decisions,
but
if
you
can
find
anything
anything
at
all
to
help
keep
the
schools
going.
It'll
be
greatly
appreciated.
R
Let
me
just
say:
you're
right,
it's
great
to
be
back
in
the
chamber.
It's
a
little
hot
I'll,
be
honest!
It's
in
front
of
people
yeah,
then
seeing
yourself
on
the
screen.
Dan
wall
27
sagamore
road.
I
am
the
chairman
of
the
cranston
school
committee.
I
come
here
on
behalf
of
the
school
committee,
the
members
who
couldn't
be
here
myself
and
the
members
who
couldn't
be
here
tonight.
Let
me
just
start
off
by
saying
I'm
very
thankful
to
mayor
hopkins
for
allotting
a
million
dollars
towards
the
schools.
R
I'm
very
thankful.
I
know
the
words
that
will
follow
after
it
will
sound
like
I'm,
maybe
a
little
ingratious,
but
let
me
say
that
on
the
onset
I
don't
come
here
tonight
to
give
you
a
long
speech.
In
fact,
it's
going
to
be
very
short,
I'm
not
going
to
attempt
to
make
you
feel
guilty,
but
instead
I'm
just
going
to
respectfully
request,
as
mr
fusco
did,
but
you
make
some
amendments
to
this
budget
and
fully
fund
it.
It's
a
tall
order.
R
I
also
realize
there
are
those
who
would
say
that
the
school
department
has
a
whole
bunch
of
money.
You
have
a
whole
lot
of
covert
relief,
money
grant
money,
and
that
would
be
to
some
extent
in
some
ways
we
do
have
that
grant
money.
However,
as
mr
fusco
was
alluding
to
these
monies
cannot
or
maybe
better
said,
should
not
be
used
for
our
contractual
obligations
or
any
recurring
salary
obligations.
R
These
monies,
the
monies
that
cover
these
costs
should
be
part
of
the
school
department's
maintenance
buffer
if
those
monies
are
spent
and
when
they're
spent
and
they
run
out.
There's
nothing
left
much
like
mr
freya's
speaking
of
we'll
end
up
with
a
structural
deficit
and
that's
going
to
cause
a
great
problem.
The
school
department
cuts
etc,
which
we
we're
not
in
the
position
to
talk
about
this
time.
R
As
I'm
talking
just
a
couple
of
items,
I
might
also
compare
that
it's
going
to
sound
like
I'm
whining
a
little
bit
but
forsake
a
comparison.
The
school
department
with,
as
I
say
once
more
I'm
thankful,
the
1.1
increase
we
received
in
this
budget,
counting
that
million
dollars
that
the
mayor
put
forth
to
us.
R
If
you
compare
that
to
the
other
departments
or
many
of
the
other
departments
in
the
city,
some
are
receiving
six
and
nine
percent
increases
respectively.
Now,
I'm
not
saying
or
suggesting,
or
even
you
know,
a
rivalry
any
sort.
I
know
these
departments
deserve
those
monies
and
just
nothing
would
be
further
from
the
truth
to
say
that
they
don't.
R
R
Show
me
your
budget
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
you
value!
Listen
members
of
the
city
council.
Once
again,
I'm
just
going
to
request
that
you
give
the
school
department
a
little
bit
more
to
fully
fund
this
budget
and
show
show
everyone
showing
people
in
cranston
that
we
here
in
cranston,
we
do
value
education.
R
S
Good
evening,
council,
president
and
members
of
the
council
nick
lim
the
registrar
director
of
elections
for
the
counseling
authority.
Those
of
you
who
have
been
on
the
council
for
any
number
of
years
will
probably
know
that
my
budget
presentations
to
the
council
normally
rival
the
epic
of
gilgamesh
in
length
I'll
try
to.
I
promise
you
now
I'll
try
to
keep
my
budget
presentation
shorter,
maybe
than
the
gettysburg
address
this
time
around,
but
given
that
the
addre
that
my
presentation
is
actually
next
wednesday,
not
tonight,
I
figure.
S
If
I
start
tonight,
maybe
I
can
wrap
up
by
wednesday.
Just
one
thing
I
want
to
want
to
let
the
council
know
in
order
to
help
hopefully
save
some
time
next
wednesday.
So
in
the
elections
budget,
the
cancer
department
is
pretty
straightforward
budget.
For
the
most
part,
we
do
have
one
major
line
item
that
covers
our
entire
elections:
costs
for
for
2022..
S
That
line
item.
If
you
may
know
it
was
around
181
thousand
dollars
actual
in
in
for
the
2020
elections,
we
were
asking
for
223
000
in
that
line
item
for
this
year's
elections.
I
just
want
to
explain
to
the
council
why,
and
if
you
have
questions,
give
me
a
call
over
the
week
or
ask
me
at
the
at
the
meeting
next
next
wednesday,
I'm
happy
to
answer
it
further.
S
S
We
that
year
solicited
and
received
a
forty
four
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
ctcl,
which
basically
covered
our
entire
costs
for
early
voting
in
the
2020
elections.
That
was
a
one-time
grant.
There
aren't
any
other
funds
out
there,
at
least
that
we're
aware
of
so,
unfortunately,
that
the
there
aren't
any
other
areas
and
elections
that
we
can
really
cut
to
make
up.
For
that.
As
you
know,
elections
are
mandated
by
the
state
in
many
many
respects,
including
what
we
pay
poll
workers.
S
S
The
council
is
aware:
that's
why
you
see
that
drastic
difference
in
that
line
item,
because,
even
though
the
the
actual
budget
from
from
that
2020
election
fy
2021,
says
181
thousand
dollars
that
that's
because
the
grant
offset
the
extra
costs
that
year,
the
actual
cost
was
closer
to
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
in
what
we
spent
to
run
the
2020
election.
So
it's
technically
asking
for
about
a
22
000
decrease
in
that
line.
S
D
You
for
breaking
up
your
state
of
the
canvassing
address
into
two
nights,
mr
lima.
We
certainly
appreciate
it
and
we're
still
catching
up
on
sleep
from
your
last
address
anybody
else
in
chambers
for
public
comment
on
the
budget.
Overall,
I
see
none
I'll
ask
one
more
time
on
zoom.
If
anybody
with
their
hand
up
mr
lima.
D
D
C
A
B
A
Okay
tonight
we
have
budget
hearings
on
four
different
groups
or
boards
and
commissions
city,
council,
city,
clerk,
comma
probate
and
school
department.
So
I'd
like
to
do
the
school
department
first.
So
if
representation
from
the
school
department
would
like
to
come
forward,
please
be
seated:
we've
got
a
nice
beautiful,
comfortable
table
for
you.
B
B
B
Second,
I
wish
to
thank
the
city
administration
and
all
of
you
who
also
supported
us
through
a
pandemic
and
all
of
the
challenges
that
brought
to
bear
that
brought
to
bear
on
our
community
of
you
have
children
in
our
schools
and
or
family
members
who
are
part
of
our
staff.
You
know
the
incredible
work
we
do
and
the
challenges
we
face
from
an
increasingly
needy
population.
B
B
B
B
Understandably,
given
the
economic
circumstances
we
find
ourselves
in,
you
can
imagine
how
substantial
cost
increases
across
the
board
can
have
a
dire
impact
on
our
budget
over
the
years
and
with
the
support
of
the
city.
My
team
has
done
a
phenomenal
job
in
using
the
financial
resources
at
our
disposal.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
T
T
U
Yes,
so
I
have
the
differential
right
now
at
approximately
1.5
million
dollars,
so
we
asked
for
three
five.
As
mr
demayo
stated,
the
governor
backfilled,
the
originally
what
we
were
told
by
ride.
We
were
going
to
lose
in
state
aid,
so
the
governor
replenished
that
loss
so
level
funded
state
aid
for
the
most
part
and
then
with
the
mayor's
additional
million
dollar
contribution.
U
T
U
U
U
T
D
You
chairman,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do,
all
your
staff.
Wonderful
ever
I
have
any
questions
concerns
you
guys
are
right
on
it,
and
I
hear
that
from
my
constituents
as
well
and
dominic's
doing
a
good
job
too.
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there,
but
dave
dave.
Demayo
ordered
the
mayor
stole
my
thunder
a
little
bit
on
the
the
esser,
the
4.3
million.
D
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
do
you
are
you
concerned,
or
do
you
think
you
might
be
building
a
structural
deficit
in
there
because
we
we
kind
of
have
that
situation
happening
with
us
on
the
city
side,
I
mean
that
really
the
federal
money
is
a
blessing,
but
I
think
a
bigger
curse
when
you,
when
you
look
at
what
we
have
to
do
with
the
money,
so
I
guess
that's.
My
first
question.
B
B
It
is
a
substantial
amount
of
money,
however,
it
comes
with
significant
restrictions
and
it's
very
difficult
to
make
folks
understand
that.
Yes,
we
are
receiving
nearly
20
million
dollars,
but
we
cannot
use
those
monies
for
salaries,
for
example,
because
once
that
money
is
gone
and
as
mr
frias
eloquently
stated,
it
goes
away,
but
the
costs
don't
go
away,
so
it's
kind
of
like
hitting
the
lottery
and
then
just
spending
it
and
expecting
that
lottery
money
to
keep
coming
in.
B
B
B
People
raises
because
the
next
year
you're
going
to
have
to
pay
those
raises
without
the
money,
so
we're
trying
to
use
the
money
responsibly
and
for
those
one-time
costs
and
again
we
also
have
federal
guidelines
that
we
have
to
follow.
So
the
federal
government
and
the
department
of
ed
watch
our
spending
very
closely
and
I'm
not
sure
about
the
city
funds,
how
you
have
to
apply
for
funding.
But
what
we
do
is
we
put
it
in
a
grant.
We
apply
the
the
grant
is
reviewed
by
the
department
of
ed.
B
They
use
federal
guidelines.
They
have
folks
who
that's
all
they
do
is
look
at
the
grant
and
then
they
approve
each
line
item.
So
they
will
say:
okay,
you
can
use
it
for
english
curriculum
or
math
curriculum.
If
we
went
in
there
and
said
hey,
we
want
to
build
a
new
scoreboard
at
the
stadium
that
would
be
rejected.
B
There
are
some
facilities
uses
that
we
can
use
for
infrastructure,
which
is
really
helpful
because
again
that's
a
one-time
use.
So
we
are
applying
some
of
our
sr
monies
toward
the
garden
city
project,
because
the
sr
monies
are
to
be
used
for
costs
that
have
been
directly
impacted
by
kovit.
So
when
you
look
at
the
building
costs
and
if
any
of
you
have
even
gone
to
loads
right,
you
know
that
something
that
may
have
cost
20
bucks
now
costs
35..
B
So
any
building
increases
that
we
are
incurring
for
garden
city.
We
can
use
s
or
monies
because
we
can
make
a
very
valid
argument
that
kovit
has
impacted
the
cost
of
that
project,
so
we're
able
to
defer
some
of
the
increases
actually
most
of
the
increases
by
the
sr
monies.
But
that's
a
one-time
use
and
it's
an
appropriate
use-
and
I
know
mr
campagno
and
mr
ferry
are
on
our
building
committee
and
we've
talked
about
this
over
and
over
again.
B
But
after
two
years
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
how
do
we
still
provide
those
services
and
we're
hoping
that
in
those
two
years,
if,
if
our
programs
work
well
enough,
kids
will
have
kind
of
caught
up,
but
so
that's
that's
kind
of
what
we're
using
the
ceremonies.
For
I
know
I'm
going
on
and
on.
Please
please
jump
in
if
I've
said
too
much.
D
I
appreciate
that
chair
one
more
question,
then
I'll
defer
to
the
committee.
Mr
igo
sends
us
actuals
from
where
we
are.
You
know
how
we're
running,
how
the
different
departments
are.
My
question
to
you,
mr
balducci,
is:
where
are
you
running
on
the
nine
month?
Actuals
now
are
we
in
line?
Are
we
trending
over
under
I
mean,
I
know
it's
kind
of
a
broad
question,
because
you
probably
have
a
lot
of
actuals,
but.
U
So
my
office
prepares
a
monthly
report
that
we
then
share
with
the
superintendent
in
the
school
committee.
So
through
the
month
of
february,
we
seem
to
be
on
target
to
at
least
with
a
balanced
budget
for
the
year.
We're
in,
I
don't
see
a
deficit,
but
I
can't
give
you
a
bottom
line
at
this
point,
but
I
don't
see
any
problems
you
know
three
months
out
so
which
is
good
news.
U
V
V
My
question
to
you
and
I
understand
how
you
explain
the
restriction
with
the
money
you
have
and
the
question
a
lot
of
people
keep
asking
is
that
oh,
you
have
money,
you
have
money
and
they
don't
understand
that
school.
As
I
always
said,
we
tend
to
treat
school
as
second
hand,
and
school
system
is
the
backbone.
V
You
have
a
great
doctor,
a
great
engineer.
They
all
went
to
school
why
we
always
have
to
fight
to
have
money
for
school,
so
it's
it's
challenging,
but
what
I
can
say
is
any
I'm
not
in
the
finance
committee,
but
anything
we
can
find
to
help
to
support
the
school
system,
because
education
is
the
key
and
who
will
be
more
impacted
by
less
resources.
Is
those
be
children
who
are
less
fortunate
and
often
people
who
don't
experience,
hardship
will
not
understand.
We
need
to
really
support
this
school
to
fund
this
school.
V
They
will
find
all
excuses.
All
court
goes
for
school
public
school
because
who's
benefit
public
school,
less
unfortunate
right
parents
who
do
not
have
options
to
send
them
in
a
private
school.
So
you
don't
know,
but
I
would
I
want
to
really
assure
you
and
all
the
residents
that
anything
we
can
do
I
can
do.
We
will
find
a
way
to
give
you
more
money.
That's
why
I
hope
so
to
have
my
money,
because
we
we
have
to
change
the
narrative.
V
We
have
to
stop
treating
school
system
as
second
hand.
We
have
to
stop,
give
them
a
proper
budget,
because
if
we
keep
saying
children
are
the
future
of
our
nation,
we
need
to
give
them
the
education.
They
need
the
resources.
They
need
the
teacher
this
what
they
need
to
instruct
our
children
to
have
the
better
future.
So
that's
what
I
want
to
say
and
my
question
for
you
right
now
is
about.
We
know
we
have
it
shortage
teacher
showed
it.
How
that's
you
experience
that
and
what
is
the
mechanism
you
have
to
address
that.
B
So
you
are
very
correct
in
this.
This
is
a
nationwide
problem.
I've
made
some
a
lot
of
connections
around
the
nation
of
late
with
superintendents.
We
all
talk
about
the
same
thing:
that
there
is
a
teacher
shortage
and
in
our
own
state
the
teacher
preparation
programs.
I
mean
everybody
says:
oh,
you
know.
If
you're
a
teacher,
you
go
to
rhode
island
college
right,
you
become
a
teacher,
providence
college
uri.
The
teacher
preparation
programs
in
higher
ed
are
also
seeing
huge
declines
in
participation.
B
So
it's
not
just
cranston.
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
a
nation
and
statewide
problem
right
now.
We
have
four
vacancies.
Now
we
have
about
a
thousand
teachers,
so
we
have
four
vacancies
that
we
have
been
unable
to
fill
for
different
reasons.
Three
of
them
came
after
school
started
with
folks
resigning
or
leaving
or
taking
a
leave
of
absence
so
and
they're
they're
all
over.
It's
not
one
particular
area.
We
have
a
world
language
and
an
english,
a
psychologist
and
a
special
educator.
B
I
think
we
have
a
great
culture
and
we
have
a
good
reputation,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
folks
are
going
to
go
where
the
money
is,
and
it's
a
it's
a
market
that
is
very
competitive.
Now
when
I
began
teaching
you
had
to
sub
for
a
couple
of
years,
you
had
to
wait
your
turn
and
you
hoped
that
you
got
a
job.
B
B
L
B
B
V
So
do
you
I
don't
know,
I
have
to
check
everything
and
we
have
any
plan
right
now
to
facilitate
a
young
like
at
least
or
west.
You
know
young
kids,
who
want
to
be
a
teacher.
How
we
can
you
can
yeah
help
them
to
really
get
into
the
profession,
because
one
of
the
things
the
shortage
we
are
talking
about
is
we
don't
value
the
profession
and
he
has
to
come
from
us
to
say:
hey,
you
can
go
to
school
and
go
have
a
degree
in
teaching
and
you
make
your
life.
V
You
don't
need
to
have
a
second
job
and
I
know
a
lot
of
teachers.
They
do
it
out
of
love.
They
have
a
second
job
that
should
not
be
happening.
You
go
to
school,
you
have
a
degree,
you
should
work
on
your
degree
and
make
your
end
life.
You
should
not
be
having
a
second
job
too.
That's
why
I
think
the
increasing
for
the
teacher.
It's
it's
important,
it's
important
to
keep
them
and
to
continue
the
work
for
ins,
educating
our
kids,
so
those
are
important
for
everybody
who
listening.
V
We
need
money
for
the
school.
We
need
to
keep
our
good
teachers
working
really
hard
keep
them.
They
not
go
home
tired
and
go
to
a
second
job,
and
then
tomorrow,
when
they
go
to
teach
our
kids,
they
are
tired
and
sometimes
they
are
getting
cranky.
It's
not.
They
are
human,
but
if
we
then
give
them
the
support
they
need,
they
will
not
have
to
go
to
have
a
second
job
and
our
in
our
children
will
be
better
off.
So
my
other
question
you
know
with
the
pandemic,
we
see
a
huge.
B
Answer
the
one
you
just
okay,
we
do
have.
Currently
we
have
a
a
career
and
technical
program
at
cranston
west
for
early
childhood
educators,
where,
if
students
complete
our
program
when
they
graduate,
they
are
able
to
take
the
paraprofessional
test
so
right
when
they
come
out
of
high
school,
they
can
be
a
paraprofessional.
B
So
we
have
a
very
successful,
very
well
respected,
award-winning
program
at
cranston
west
and
it's
more
of
an
early
childhood
for
for
younger
children
preschool
age.
But
we
are
also
in
discussions
and
the
pandemic
kind
of
derailed
it
a
little
bit
with
a
group
called
educators,
rising
which
will
help
develop
a
career
in
tech
program,
and
we
were
going
to
put
it
at
cranston
east
once
it's
able
to
get
off
the
ground
for
to
prepare
students
to
become
teachers
of
older
kids.
B
So
we
are
trying
to
embed
that
within
our
career
and
tech
programs,
for
education,
preparation-
and
I
don't-
I
don't-
want
to
go
down
a
a
rabbit
hole
with
this.
But
for
the
past
decade
teachers
have
been
vilified,
not
here,
but
across
the
country.
You
know
they're
they're,
the
reason
for
every
ill
in
society
and
it's
a
very
hard
thing
to
come
back
when
you
are
trying
to
talk
about
the
nobility
of
being
a
teacher-
and
I
was
a
teacher
and
I
considered
it
a
vocation-
it's
a
calling.
You
have
to
love
it.
B
B
B
So
we're
trying
to
be
creative
to
make
it
more
enticing
for
people
and
make
it
easier
to
get
into
the
career
but
you're
spot.
On
that
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
problem
as
years
progress,
so
we're
trying
to
grow
our
own
and
we
princeton
people
we
like
to
grow
our
own
and
you
know,
bring
people
up
from
the
neighborhoods
and
from
our
schools
and-
and
things
like
that.
So
we
are
looking
at
additional
programs
to
have
students
from
here.
V
B
O
Yes,
we
actually
hired
an
agency
called
sorry.
We
hired
an
agency
called
effective
school
solutions
so
that
they
can
increase
our
social
emotional
support,
and
that
was
great
because
we
weren't
able
to
send
our
students
out
to
get
that
support,
which
is
a
heavy
bill.
Any
child
I
send
out
a
district
is
going
to
be
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
student
right,
so
we're
able
to
get
the
services
in
our
programs.
O
I
have
that
in
two
middle
schools
also
wrote
a
grant
for
what's
called
project
aware,
to
really
help
us
focus
on
our
suicide
rates
and
our
social
emotional,
and
in
that
grant,
once
I'm
able
to
find
some
social
workers.
I
do
have
a
few
positions
in
there
presently.
Right
now,
I
have
about
30
social
workers
for
the
district,
from
the
increases
of
grants.
V
This
is
really
mental
health.
We
we
think
it's
a
taboo.
A
lot
of
kids
have
been
really
impacted
with
kobe,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
dominic's
domestic
violence
and
they
are
home
with
parents
and
they
are
really
affected.
So
those
are
really
issue
that
we
didn't
need
to
take
care
of.
So
that's
why
I'm.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
My
last
question
is
about
lunch.
V
So
do
we
have
the
ability
to
keep
lunch
free
for
all
children
regardless
because
as
an
as
I'm
a
mom
who
experienced
when
we
used
to
have
learned
shaming
in
here-
and
thank
you
I
remember
the
first
time
I
asked
you
this
question
as
a
mom,
okay
and
I'm
so
grateful.
We
do
not
have
lin
shaming
right
now,
but
we
know
we
need
money
to
keep
that
up
and
with
the
covid
money
every
child
will
be
able
to
have
a
freelance
and
that's
something
that
I
hope
that
can
stay.
L
B
Their
socioeconomic
status-
we
were
notified
about
three
weeks
ago
that
the
federal
government,
as
part
of
I
think
it
was
it-
was
wrapped
into
the
infrastructure
bill
that
didn't
pass.
So
the
continuation
of
those
waivers
is
supposed
to
end
at
the
end
of
this
year.
So
the
federal
government
had
been
subsidizing
free
lunch
for
everybody
since
20
up,
you
know
the
impact
with
the
pandemic,
including
summers
right
now
that
is
set
to
end.
So
I
have
reached
out
to
our
federal
delegation.
B
I
have
a
zoom
call
with
representative
langevin
next
week,
I've
heard
from
senator
whitehouse
and
senator
reed
as
well
that
they
are
trying
to
senator
reid,
is
sponsoring
a
bill
to
try
and
have
the
waivers
continue
at
least
for
another
year
and
a
year
in
a
summer,
but
eventually
I
do
foresee
that
that
will
end.
So
we've
talked
about
what
will
happen
and
it's
a
very
difficult
conversation,
especially
now
that
for
say
three
or
four
years:
we've
given
everybody
free
lunch
and
now
we're
going
to
say.
B
Oh
sorry,
now
you
have
to
pay
and
we
will
start
incurring
the
debt
and,
and
that
will
happen
exactly
as
it
had.
You
know
been
years
previous.
So
right
now
we
are
trying
to
work
with
the
federal
delegation
to
continue
with
the
federal
waivers
of
lunch,
the
cost
of
lunch.
If
that
then
is
taken
away,
we
have
to
revert
back
to
making
sure
that
families
fill
out
the
form
for
free
lunch
and
and
really
make
it
a
more.
V
V
V
I
think
that's
something
we
need
to
look
at,
because
children
cannot
learn
hungry
and
there
are
a
lot
of
parents
that
have
pride
because
they
make
two
dollars.
They
cannot
qualify
for
free
lunch,
but
it's
hard
for
them
and
then
I
spoke
for
with
many
families
they
are.
They
are,
you
know,
really
proud
family,
you
know,
but
imagine
you
have
four
or
five
kids.
V
You
just
make
two
dollars
extra.
You
want
to
qualify
and
how
that's
impact
those
kids
and
you
know
as
the
course
of
life
getting
you
know
what
it
is
right
now
and
earlier
I
heard
someone
say
we
have
the
mortgage
to
pay.
Everybody
has
the
mortgage
to
pay
right,
you
have
the
insurance
to
pay
and
then,
when
the
parents
make
all
of
those
so
the
food
to
go
to
school.
This
is
a
good
help
for
the
kids.
V
You
know,
so
I
I
really
hope
that
we
put
this
in
the
budget,
but
that's
one
of
the
thing
I
think.
As
a
council
president
paparosca
says
discovered,
money
is
a
blessing
and
it
curse
at
the
same
time,
because
we
should
budget
for
those
we
should
foresee
those
because,
first
and
foremost,
we
need
to
make
sure
our
children
learn
hungry.
You
cannot
learn
if
you're
hungry.
So
I
stop
right
here,
but
you
have
my
full
support.
F
Thank
you
just
to
start
off
with
the
at
the
school
lunch
question
did
that
affect.
I
know.
Last
year
we
talked
about
this.
How
filling
out
the
forms,
even
if
you
were
everyone,
was
getting
it
for
free,
less
people
filled
out
the
forms
that
already
you
know.
We
already
don't
have
high
numbers
filling
out.
The
forms
which
gave
an
inaccurate
picture
to
the
state
for
money
did
that
affect
us
this
year
as
well,
and
how
and
how.
U
F
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
we
can
actually
figure
out
or
not,
but
that
even
just
telling
parents
ptos
whoever
I'm
assuming
it's
a
big
number.
I
don't
have
no
idea
what
it
is,
but
we
could
be
encouraging
people
to
fill
out
the
forms
if
they
knew
how
much
more
money
we
would
be
getting
because
money
motivates
people.
U
How
I'll
answer
that
pre-pandemic,
I
think
we
as
a
school
district
did
a
good
job
as
far
as
promoting
families
to
fill
out
the
free,
reduce
and
by
so
doing
a
food
service
fund,
which
is
a
stand-alone
separate
fund,
would
maintained,
I
mean
was
was
supporting
itself,
so
there
was
no
infusion
from
the
school
district
to
help
that
fund
out.
So
again,
I
think
we
just
have
to
get
back
to
those
levels,
so
I
don't
think
we've
we've
left
any
money
on
the
table,
so
to
speak,
that
we
that
we
weren't
getting.
U
F
B
Had
about,
we
usually
hover
between
3
800
and
4
000
families
who
qualify
for
free
and
reduced
lunch,
so
the
problem
with
that
is,
if
they
don't
fill
it
out,
we
don't
we
don't
know
right.
We
can't
ask
families
so
we're
not
entirely
sure.
We've
had
a
pretty
steady
number
that
way.
So
if
we
assumed
that
we
went
back
to
that
3
800
4
000,
we
could
figure
out
what
that
student
success
factor
would
be.
B
I
don't
know
how
many
families
you
know
we
can
say
historically,
we've
had
this
number
that
could
be
increased
by
500
or
decreased
by
500,
we're
not
sure,
and
because
our
city
is
so
diverse.
As
far
as
socioeconomics,
we
don't
qualify
as
a
district
to
have
the
whole
district,
be
free
and
reduce
lunch
as
some
of
the
districts
are
in
rhode
island.
So
that's
a
hard.
F
U
So
it's
a
it's
a
firm
that
a
lot
of
the
school
districts
partner
with
in
the
state
one
of
the
services
they
do
provide
for
us
is
to
during
budget
building
time
I
reach
out
to
them
and
ask
them
for
them
their
assistance.
So
they
have
a
closer
look
on
what
they
think
the
rates
are
going
to
look
like,
and
then
they
also
look
at
historical
usage
and
basically
provide
me
with
some
estimates.
F
U
So,
given
that
we're
just
getting
out
of
the
heating
season,
that's
the
area
that
I'm
going
to
be
focusing
on
that's
one
of
the
areas.
I
really
don't
look
at
that
in
november
and
december,
because
again
we're
just
entering
the
heating
season
so
as
we
get
out
of
it,
that's
one
of
the
years
that
we'll
focus
on.
But
again
as
I
I
can
tell
you
this
evening.
I
don't
see
any
problems
right
now,.
F
U
F
U
W
We've
we've
gone
around
and
we've
done
some
upgrades
to
the
systems
and
everything,
but
we
can't
retain
what
we're
burning
in
the
building
and
that's
our
biggest
thing
and
unfortunately,
to
address
that
you're
talking
about
construction
projects,
so
those
are
projects
that
grid
will
not
address.
They'll
come
through
they'll
help
us
with
pipe
insulation,
steam,
trap,
replacement,
more
efficient
controls
and
everything.
But
again
we
can
we're
not
able
to
capture
the
heat
and
keep
it
in
the
building
as
efficiently
as
efficiently
as
we'd
like
to.
A
J
Good
evening,
thank
you
again
to
for
both
of
you
to
be
here
this
evening.
I
actually,
I
know
super
sunday.
You
started
your
speaking
portion
this
evening,
commending
the
staff
and
and
the
families,
and
but
I
but
I
want
to
reciprocate
that
back
and
actually
thank
you
and
obviously
the
staff
and
the
families,
and
also
the
students,
obviously
with
2020
pandemic
and
we're
pretty
much
kind
of
still
in
it.
I
know
that
it
hasn't
been
easy
decisions
and
probably
lost
some
sleep.
J
Many
many
nights,
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
leading
the
way
as
much
as
you
possibly
could
throughout
the
last
couple
of
years.
Oh
the
last
since
you've
been
superintendent,
but
definitely
the
last
two
years
right.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
just
had
a.
I
just
had
a
few
questions,
and
just
just
for
just
so
that
I
that
I
can
understand
correctly
as
well.
So
the
sorry
I
have
nice
notes
here,
the
current
vacancies
that
are
listed
right
now
on
your
website.
B
B
B
We've
interviewed
and
I
have
to
say
we
won't
just
hire
someone.
We
want
to
make
sure
the
person
is
the
right
fit
for
our
schools.
So
we
have
conducted
interviews
and
if
those
interviews
haven't
panned
out,
then
we
have
other
teachers
within
a
building
covering
those
vacancies.
But
there
are
some
vacancies
that
might
be
online
and
they
could
be
for
things
that
we
hire
every
year,
so
I'm
not
sure
which
ones
maybe.
B
No,
what
we
do
is
in
the
case
of
a
bus
driver,
so
if
we
have
a
bus
route
that
isn't
staffed
by
one
single
bus
driver,
we
double
up
so
that
causes
us
to
have
to
compensate
whoever
fills
in
for
that
so
similar
to
a
substitute
in
a
teaching
area.
Those
responsibilities
have
to
be
done
by
someone
and
we
have
to
pay
people
to
make
sure
that
we
fulfill
those
responsibilities.
B
So,
in
the
case
of
say,
a
teacher,
if
we
hired
a
first
step
teacher
with
benefits,
it's
still
cheaper
than
having
to
pay
other
teachers
to
cover
those
classes.
So
we
very
rarely
realize
savings
from
the
vacant
positions
even
with
bus
drivers
or
paras,
or
anything
like
that,
and
I
know
joe
can
speak
to
the
the
salaries
of
those,
but
even
with
vacancies,
and
that
could
be
one.
It
could
be
two
bus
drivers
that
we
need.
B
We
still
have
to
provide
the
service
right,
so
we
still
have
to
pay
someone
to
do
that.
Unfortunately,
that
would
require
overtime
or
someone
to
pick
up
an
extra
route
and
contractually
we
still
have
to
compensate.
Whoever
does
the
extra
work
in
in
any
of
these
areas,
whether
it
be
a
certified
teacher,
a
paraprofessional
bus
driver
custodian,
anyone
who's,
picking
up
duties
that
should
be
done
by
someone
else.
You
have
to
pay
them,
so
I
don't
know
if
joe
wants
to
add
anything
to
that.
U
So
the
only
other
comment
I'll
make
is
when
we
develop
the
shares
budget
or
a
budget,
I
I
will
sit
down
with
mr
crudel
who's
overseas,
human
resources
for
the
district.
So
at
the
timing
of
when
this
developed
this
budget
is
developed.
If
there
is
any
vacant
positions,
then
he
and
I
will
sit
down
and
say:
okay,
do
we
need
that
position
and
99.9
percent
of
the
the
time?
The
answer
is
yes,
so
then
he
and
I
will
have
a
conversation.
U
Okay,
if
it's
a
teaching
position,
do
we
think
we
can
get
a
third
step,
a
second
step,
a
first
step.
So
those
are
the
conversations
and
then
we
place
those
dollars
in
it,
even
though
we
don't
have
a
body
in
there
yet
again,
the
goal
is
to
get
someone
in
there,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
there's
budget
dollars
to
support
that
salary.
So
that's
how
we
do
it.
J
Part
of
the
sr3
there
was
about
4.6
million
and
then,
as
far
as
the
city
appropriation,
I
believe
there
was
like
another
3.5
or
so.
The
mayor's
proposed
budget
is
allocating
or
providing
the
schools
with
about
a
million
you're
asking
for
another
million
and
a
half
about
roughly,
and
so
I'm
sure
if
that
million,
that
1.5,
that's
just
just
to
even
it
out
roughly
a
number
out,
there
was
not
to
be
met
while
their
the
esser
funds,
esther
monies.
J
B
Unfortunately,
we
go
through
this
exercise
every
year
and-
and
I
don't
mean
that,
in
a
in
a
negative
way,
we
we
have
to
look
at
our
budget
at
the
end
of
our
year
going
into
our
next
year.
So
our
business
is
is
in
people.
So
we
look
for
efficiencies
in
staff.
Do
we
have
changes
in
class
sizes?
Population
retirements,
you
know,
did
we
estimate
10
and
we
have
12
or
anything
like
that.
So,
unfortunately,
we
first
have
to
look
at
staffing
and
we
do
that
across
the
board:
custodians
administrators
admin
assistants.
B
We
really
look
to
make
sure
that
we're
running
efficiently,
smartly
and
with
enough
people
to
make
sure
we
provide
the
service.
We
don't
want
to
cut
it
so
bare
bones
that
we're
not
delivering
what
we
should
be.
Then
we
look
at
our
programs
again.
The
the
esser
monies
really
has
helped
us
with
curriculum.
I
can't
speak
to
that
enough,
because
curriculum
is
so
expensive
that
those
monies
have
really
helped
us
provide
for
that
technology.
All
of
those
things
so
that
1.5
million
we
have
to
look
at
out-of-district
tuitions
again
when
we
start
the
budget
process.
B
We
started
in
december,
which-
and
I
know
we
have
to
by
then
just
because
of
our
timelines,
but
we're
we're
making
assumptions
in
our
budget
that
really
don't
shake
out
until
june.
For
example,
like
a
charter
charter
school
tuitions,
so
the
state
will
tell
us
we
estimate
you
need
to
pay
for
a
thousand
charters.
I'm
just
you
know,
throwing
a
number
of
it.
You'll
need
to
pay
for
a
thousand
students
to
go
to
a
charter
school
in
june.
B
So
we
can
say
all
right.
We
think
we're
going
to
spend
this
this
and
this
on
tuitions,
whether
it
be
out
of
district
special
ed
charter
schools,
pathways
things
like
that
until
june,
then
we
have
a
more
accurate
picture
of
how
we're
going
into
the
next
fiscal
year,
so
oftentimes
we're
able
to
realize
savings
with
that
without
really
affecting
personnel
and
programs.
B
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things.
For
example,
I'll
give
you
statewide
transportation,
that's
always
a
favorite
topic
of
ours.
We
have
no
control
over
that
absolutely
none
a
few
years
ago.
I
want
to
say
about
10
years
now
the
state
told
us
that
you
know
come
with
us
for
statewide
transportation.
We'll
save
you
a
lot
of
money
that
hasn't
happened
and
they
give
us
a
bill.
We
have
no
recourse
on
that,
so
we
try
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
the
bill
they
give
us
is
accurate.
B
Did
ms
vargas
really
take
the
bus
for
six
months
and
we're
getting
charged
for
that
or
did
miss
vargas
move
and
statewide
didn't
pick
up
on
it?
So
you
know
what
I
mean:
it's
those
kinds
of
things
that
really
our
staff
tries
really
hard
to
make
sure
what
we're
paying
is
accurate
and
those
are
the
things
that
are
just
moving
targets
that
we
have
no
control
over.
So
right
now
we're
looking
to
hopefully
get
a
little
bit
of
relief
with
statewide
transportation,
but
it's
hard
when
we
have
to
give
a
budget
in
february.
B
It
has
to
be
all
done
to
go
to
the
mayor
for
march,
when
we
really,
you
know
we
are
making
a
lot
of
estimates
and
assumptions,
and
I
just
don't
want
folks
to
think
we're
doing
anything
nefarious
when
we
make
those
assumptions
because
they
do
change-
and
everyone
says,
oh
sure,
you
know
you
you're
padding
the
budget
you're
hiding
money,
it's
not
that
our
assumptions
are
genuine
at
the
time
we're
making
them
with
whatever
data
we
have
on.
I
mean
I
look
like
a
complete
mess
over
here
with
all
these
papers.
B
J
Thank
you.
I
have
one
other
questions
just
so
I
can
allow
all
of
my
other
council
colleagues
to
have
ask
theirs
as
well,
so
that
1.5
obviously
usually
based
on
my
experience
in
the
past
years,
we're
usually
trying
to
figure
out
what
amendments
we're
doing
and
where
to
reduce
from,
and
where
do
we
add,
the
dollar
amounts
and
1.5
million.
I
mean
I've
been
going
through
this
binder,
since
we
were
given
it
on
friday
and
trying
to
get
a
sense.
J
T
That's
it's
probably
a
multi-pot
answer,
I
mean.
Obviously
the
initial
answer
would
be.
If
there
was
expenditures
we
could
cut
to
find
the
1.5
million.
Also
there's
remaining
s
or
funds.
Excuse
me,
opera
funds
that
could
be
used
in
the
current
budget.
We
have
19
million.
7
million
of
that
is
a
one-time
expenditure.
T
To
get
to
the
last
point
that
you
ask
at
some
point,
it
would
affect
the
taxpayers
with
the
tax
increase.
Once
the
opera
funds
are
depleted,
we
would
need
to
increase
either
revenue
by
additional
tax
dollars
or
we'd
have
to
raise
the
tax
rate.
Also.
The
charter
states
that
were
only
allowed
to
raise
the
taxes
at
three
percent
a
year
so
based
on
that
it
would
be
over
a
period
of
time
to
recoup
what
we're
funding
now.
J
J
U
J
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
superintendent.
Thank
you,
mr
balducci.
As
well,
and
yes,
I
echo
the
sentiments
of
my
colleagues.
You
know
for
all
the
efforts
that
you
guys
have
put
and
brought
to
the
table,
as
well
as
the
teachers,
the
staff,
the
students
and
it
shows
having
two
kids
in
the
public
school
system
who
post
pandemic
returning
now
literally,
are
sad
when
it's
school
vacation.
K
U
So
let
me
address
this
tuition
rate.
So,
yes
to
answer
your
question,
the
state
does
dictate
how
much
we
as
a
district
can
bill
a
sending
district,
so
my
office
in
coordination
with
a
career
in
tech.
Usually
in
october,
we
have
a
you
know
by
then
the
dust
has
settled
the
kids
coming
from
johnston-
scituate,
not
prominent,
you
name
it
they're
there.
My
office
then
goes
on
the
state's
website.
U
There
is
a
rep
there's,
a
document
that
says:
okay,
the
town
of
johnston,
they're
obligated
to
pay
again
I'll,
say:
fourteen
thousand
dollars
a
student
and
there's
actually
two
rates
if
their
child
is
not
considered
free
reduced,
it's
14,
if
it's
free,
if
that
child
is
free,
reduced,
it's
16
or
something
like
that.
So
we
just
use
those
rates
and
then
we'll
send
out
a
tuition
bill
quarter
four
times
a
year.
K
K
K
B
That's
what
we're
paying
out
so
we
have
39
students,
cte
entitlement
right,
so
that
includes
we.
We
have
students,
we
have
two
kids
who
go
to
coventry,
one
who
goes
to
east
providence.
Fortunately,
we
don't
have
many
students
who
leave
us
and
that's
a
good
thing.
So
we
have
39
total
students
for
cte
and
pathway
only
and
yeah.
Oh
actually,
sorry
484
for
a
week
is
what
we're
working
on
right
now.
So
just
under
500
000.,
we
get.
B
We
do
we're
able
to
get
some
cte
categorical
help
with
high
cost
programs
from
the
state
our
construction
program,
because
of
materials
where
again,
construction
has
welding
things
like
that.
So
some
of
the
higher
cost
programs
were
able
to
get
some
help
with
equipment
for
culinary
to
buy
things
like
that,
but
that
lives
outside
of
the
tuition
and
those
are
we
don't
even
bank
on
that
money
because
it
could
go
away
at
any
time.
So.
K
B
One
of
our
biggest
things
is
pension
and
health
care.
We
have
to
make
us,
you
know
we
have
to
plan
for
the
worst
and
hope
for
the
best.
The
pension
has
gone
up
over
17
percent
for
certified
staff,
and
you
know
those
nothing
ever
comes
down.
No
stuff
isn't
getting
cheaper
for
us,
that's
for
sure,
and
it
isn't
for
our
families
to
what
councilwoman
jermaine
said.
B
It's
it's
a
hard
balance
when
we
were
in
covid
and
we
weren't
spending
money
on
gas
and
buses
and
and
transporting
kids
and
doing
things
that
again
cost
us
money
in
a
fluid
manner.
We
did
realize
a
lot
of
savings,
as
you
can
all
imagine
those
they're
gone
because
of
the
increase
in
costs
that
we
have
now
so.
D
F
Thank
you,
council,
vice
president
to
go
back
to
councilwoman
marino's
point
about
the
paying
out
for
for
the
39
students
going
to
other
schools.
I
think
I
asked
this
last
year,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
again:
are
we
obligated
to
pay
for
students
to
go
to
other
schools
where
we
have
that
program
and
why.
B
What
has
happened
is
schools
are
now
competing
with
each
other
for
customers.
It's
it's
become
a
very
business,
principled
system.
So
when
that
all
happened
and
again
we
want,
I
firmly
believe
a
student
should
be
where
they
need
to
be.
I
understand
that,
but
we've
also
seen
that
certain
districts
have
created
programs
that
have
taken
so
many
students
away
from
other
districts
that
they've
nearly
bankrupted
them.
B
What
we're
working
on
now.
Actually,
I
think
it's
senator
pearson
in
the
at
the
state
house
is
working
on
a
bill
that
will
prevent
that
kind
of
thing,
because
if
I
have
say
culinary
or
robotics
or
pre-engineer,
you
know
the
the
programs.
We
have
you're
right,
I'm
going
to
pay
a
neighboring
district
now
a
lot
of
times,
there's
other
factors
at
play.
Students
might
go
there
for
sports
students
might
go
there
for
a
different,
read,
yeah
nobody'll,
admit
that,
but
so
that
becomes
a
problem
and
you're
right.
B
We
want
to
keep
our
kids
in
our
communities
being
here
growing
up
here
and
we
want
them
to
go
to
our
schools,
so
it
is
a
very
difficult
balance
that
we
have
to.
We
do
have
to
pay.
I
can't
deny
a
student
to
go
if
they
want
to
go
to
coventry,
which
is
you
know
right
over
our
border
for
a
program.
We
have
it's
a
very
difficult
argument.
I
can't
prevent
them
and
we
have
to
pay
the
tuition.
B
Conversely,
we
do
have
students
who
come
to
us,
so
it's
it's
a
very
touchy,
subject
amongst
among
school
districts
and
superintendents
that
we're
competing
with
each
other
with
duplicate
programs,
and
that's
not
a
good
way
to
do
it
either,
because
we're
saturating
the
market
with
programs
and
students
are
going
everywhere.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
districts
that
are
suffering
greatly
because
of
that,
but
the
short
answer
is
no.
We
can't
deny
them.
B
B
F
U
B
B
We
do
try
to
keep
some
of
that
rainy
day
fund
savings
account.
However,
you
want
to
call
it
for
dire
emergencies.
We
don't
want
to
spend
all
that
money
because
that's
only
going
to
create
havoc
for
us.
Just
just
like
you
folks,
you
know
you
want.
You
want
some
kind
of
backing,
so
I
can
I'll
let
joe
speak
to
more
of
the
accounting
parts
of
it.
But
I
know
we
do
try
not
to
make
sure
that
that's
a
zero
balance,
because
that
is
not
good
for
either
side
of
the
ledger.
U
And
to
echo
the
superintendent's
comments
again
when
we
have
to
make
cuts,
we
always
look.
You
know
as
far
away
from
the
classroom,
the
students
as
possible.
So
that's
our
goal.
Yes,
it
is
a
source
of
revenue.
It
is
available,
but,
like
we've
all
been
having
this
conversation
to
utilize
one-time
revenue
sources,
when
the
when
you
spend
it,
you
get
one
shot
at
it
and
it
goes
away.
U
F
Thank
you-
and
this
might
be.
It's
part,
comment
part
question
for
our
our
auditor,
so
I
I
really
like
what
the
superintendent
said
about
planning
for
the
worst
and
then
hoping
for
the
best,
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
should
try
and
do
that
across
the
board
in
all
our
departments.
But
to
my
understanding
the
difference
is
in
say:
public
works.
F
T
You
know,
basically,
the
way
it
works
is
any
money
that
is
appropriated
to
the
school
becomes
maintenance
of
effort,
and
what
that
means.
What
you
give
today
you
have
to
give
tomorrow
whether
they
have
a
surplus.
They
don't
have
a
surplus.
So
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
double-edged
sword.
It's
a
tough
decision
to
make.
F
F
T
And
actually,
there's
a
there's
actually
a
state
case
that
I
researched,
because
if
you
remember
correctly,
I
think
last
year
or
two
years
ago
we
withheld
4.3
million
dollars
of
funding
that
wasn't
yet
allocated
from
the
state
and
the
only
reason
that
we
pushed
to
do.
That
was
strictly
simply
that
there
was
a
proven
case
that
a
city
was
had
a
meeting
had
a
surplus.
T
T
U
And
what
mr
demayo
is
referring
to?
Yes,
we
have
a
capital
reserve
fund,
while
larger
bonds
come
before
the
city
for
approval
and
so
forth.
Smaller
price
repairs.
We
try
to
do
those
ourselves,
but
we
need
money
to
do
that
and
how
we're
able
to
accomplish
that
is
that
again,
we
identify
a
need.
We
spend
the
dollars
out
of
the
capital
reserve
fund.
U
We
then
seek
reimbursement
with
the
state
as
far
as
housing
aid
reimbursement,
so
we
get
54
cents
on
the
dollar
back
for
any
dollars
we
spend
so
it's
a
recurring
fund
that
we
try
to
keep
alive
as
long
as
we
can
and
budgetarily.
If
we're
able
to
you
know,
make
a
one-time
infusion
into
that
before
we
close
up
the
year
by
all
means
that
would
be
my
recommendation
to
the
superintendent,
because
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
to
do.
Instead
of
just
you
know,
flowing
down
the
quote-unquote
to
the
bottom
line.
T
I
have
one
other
question
to
expound
on
what
the
superintendent
said
about
the
energy
savings-
and
this
is
just
maybe
thinking
outside
the
box
with
the
way
green
energy
is
coming
with
the
new
buildings
and
the
161
million
dollars
that
we're
bonding
we'll
have
to
service
the
debt.
Is
there
many
any
discussion
to
maybe
partnering
with
the
energy
company
to
put
solar
on
the
buildings
some
of
the
older
buildings,
because
they're
flat
roofs,
some
of
the
newer
buildings
that
would
actually
generate
some
revenue
to
reduce
utility
costs?
U
We
we
currently
do
partner
with
the
solar
farm
located
in
johnston.
We
have
been
with
them
for
at
least
two
possibly
three
years
now
and
that
partnership
does
generate
to
the
district
somewhere
between
120
to
140
000
annually.
So
what
we
do
is
we
take
credit
for
the.
So
what
happens?
Is
we
get
a
monthly
bill
and
we
keep
the
first
16
percent
of
the
of
the
rebates
and
then
the
balance
goes
to
the
company,
that
is,
that
purchased
the
infrastructure,
maintains
the
solar
farm
and
so
forth.
B
There
are
some
buildings
that,
even
if
they're
newer,
they're,
just
not
if
efficient
for
utilities,
the
newer
buildings-
I
can
assure
you-
are
being
built
to
the
highest
standards
for
energy
efficiencies
and
clean
energy.
So
we're
hoping
that
and-
and
that
really
is
part
of
why
we
need
to
build
new
buildings.
B
We
needed
a
plan
to
address
those
issues
and
the
the
bond
that
the
voters
of
cranston
overwhelmingly
approved
in
2020.
Thank
you
to
all
of
those
who
voted
for
it.
That
is
a
move
in
the
right
direction
to
start
getting
a
handle
on
those.
If
we
didn't
do
that,
we
would
just
keep
throwing
good
money
after
bad
and
old
buildings.
B
You
know
you
can
replace
the
windows,
you
can
replace
a
boiler
but
you're
still
operating
with
the
same
essential
building,
so
our
school
building
and-
and
I
know
it's
and
you
know
we-
we
have
the
debt
service
to
pay
for
that.
But
it
will
be
worth
it
in
the
end
and
and
that's
we
have
to
be
forward
thinking
with
all
of
that
with
our
new
buildings
that
those
will
eventually
save
us
money.
W
Yeah
specifically
to
the
solar
panels,
as
you
know,
we
have
half
of
cranston.
West
roof
is
covered
with
solar
panels.
It
doesn't
carry
hardly
anything
in
the
building.
We
find
it
to
be
much
more
efficient
to
jump
in
with
a
solar
farm.
Mr
balducci
stated
that
we
have
eight
buildings
currently
on
one
in
johnston.
W
The
new
buildings
we're
looking
to
roll
them
in
I've
kind
of
had
preliminary
discussions
with
the
proposed
solar
farm.
That's
going
up
here
in
cranston,
so
we
would
look
to
tie
those
in.
We
do
a
much.
We
do
a
much
better
job
at
cost
avoidance,
not
savings,
cost
avoidance
when
it
comes
to
electricity
by
farming
out
to
a
solar
farm
that
has
acres
of
panels.
T
W
That's
rolled
on
that
just
got
switched
over
because
they
because
of
amazon
going
in
there,
they
had
to
resell
it.
So
we
just
upped
that
contract
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
that.
So
we're
still
in
that
and
again
when
the
new
buildings
come
online,
we've
already
had
discussions
about
either
tying
into
the
solar
farm.
That's
going
up
west,
but
if
not
going
into
another
one.
J
Very
very
brief:
the
garden
city
school
development.
I
assume
it's
not
going
to
be
done
until
2024
a
three
another
year,
so
there'll
still
be
a
chest
of
barrels
to
students
over
in
here.
Do
you
foresee?
Maybe
this
is
a
question
maybe
for
next
year,
but
do
you
foresee
chester
bowers
continue
to
be
used
for
any,
as
other
schools
are
being
worked
on
as
well,
and
hopefully
that
will
be
some
sort
of
cost.
Saving
is
my
yes.
B
Yes,
once
garden
city
is
online,
which
will
be
in
the
in
september
of
2023,
we'll
move
the
students
into
the
new
garden
city
building.
We
will
use
watermen
and
and
barrows
for
students
from
gladstone
when
we
begin
building
gladstone
so
that
swing
space
we
don't
have
to
go
to
other
districts
or
rent
space
or
anything.
We
have
it
right
there
so
yeah,
that's
what
those
so
we'll
be
using
those
buildings
for
the
next,
probably
four
years
for
kids.
V
B
V
B
B
I
think
the
one
the
the
issue
you're
talking
about
was
that
when
the
window
blew
open
and
it
froze-
and
we
had
water
everywhere
so
fortunately
because
of
insurance
purposes,
all
of
the
rooms
that
were
affected
by
that
have
been
rebuilt,
redone
they're
beautiful.
So
not
that
I
enjoy
a
good
flood,
but
we
used
it
to
our
advantage
that
in
edgewood
highlands
because
they
happen
the
same
week.
A
A
A
So
and
it's
just
one
of
those,
it's
a
tough.
It's
a
tough
situation
so
and
we
thank
you
for
being
here.
We
thank
you
for
your
comments
and
we
thank
you
for
your
preparation,
so
I
mean,
if
you
could
email
us
the
nine
months,
actually
I'd
love
to
take
a
look
at
it
to
see.
You
know
if
I
can
take
a
higher
look
at
the
numbers.
Thank
you
appreciate
everything
tonight.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
X
So
the
boards
and
commission's
budget
for
the
fiscal
year
2023
is
level
funded
at
180.
000
comprises
I'm
sorry,
that's
1901.,
it's
on
page
22
of
the
budget,
but
it
is
level
funded
at
39602
it
can.
It
can
consist
of
donations
to
the
patuxent
river
authority,
the
cranston
art
commission,
the
the
pay,
the
stipend
that
the
tax
such
as
board
and
review
receives
and
the
related
payroll
taxes
associated
with
that
donation
to
the
cranston
conservation,
commission,
historic
district
commission
and
the
diversity
commission.
T
To
try
to
bring
back
a
little
bit
of
a
former
finance
director
I'll
try
to
help
out
so
I
had
asked
mike.
I
go
to
give
me
the
current,
so
what
you
received
in
an
email,
the
current
budget
at
nine
months
is
running
about
49,
which
is
currently
roughly
25
percent.
Under
actual,
it
will
probably
come
in
under
budget
unless
the
administration
is
aware
of
any
additional
expenses
that
may
not
have
been
allocated
will
come
into
the
fourth
quarter.
So
at
this
point
it
it'll
be
probably
under
budget.
D
Yeah
just
to
comment
on
the
cranston
art
commission,
you
probably
all
saw
on
social
media
they're,
doing
the
breitbart
bright
box
project,
that's
going
to
be
approximately
a
thousand
dollars
a
box
and
there's
gonna
be
they're.
Gonna
be
painting
six
of
them.
What's
the
actual
on
the
cranston
arts
commission
as
of
now,
because
I
don't
think
they
requested
funding
for
that.
Yet.
D
They
did
expend
the
money-
okay,
all
right,
so
they
did
expend
the
money
for
the
project.
So
that's
good.
Sometimes
the
cranston
conservation
commission
is
a
little.
You
know
last
minute
on
their
spending
historically,
but
we
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
spend
their
whole
ask
that's
all
I
have
to
add
for
boards
and
commissions.
J
You
just
a
quick
question.
I
know.
Usually
the
a
few
members
of
various
different
boards
will
sometimes
write
an
email
or
anything
grows
up,
but
there's
nothing
that
came
in
from
anyone
from
boards.
Remember
any
boarding
commission
right
asking
for
any
additional
funding,
less
funding
or
what
they're
doing
with
the
funding
or
anything
like
that.
C
F
Thank
you
vice
president,
very
just
to
go
back
to
the
arts.
Commission,
I'm
sorry!
If
I
I
missed
what
was
said,
but
so
we
had.
I
believe
this
was
something
that
former
councilman
brady
had
really
wanted.
When
we
found
some
money,
we
moved
it
over
to
do
these
boxes
and
that
their
will.
They
all
be
done
with
this
7
400.
F
T
D
F
T
C
F
T
D
Yeah,
so
the
only
thing
that
sticks
out
at
me
here
is
the
video
streaming
budget
was
funded
at
10
000.
We
obviously
funded
28
000
for
last
year.
The
actual
for
video
streaming
right
now
is
14
000
dollars
spent
for
this
year,
but
this
year
we
had
some
expenses.
We
had
the
tv
we
had
a
couple
of
service
calls
with
ambient
sound
to
fix
some
issues
that
we
had
and
some
gremlins
purchased
a
computer
which
hopefully
will
last
us
five
years.
D
Yes,
that's
the
plan.
That's
the
plan,
not
sure
I
know
tom
lim
is
looking
for
another
mixer
to
make
the
quality
a
little
bit
better,
that
we're
putting
out
that
might
come
out
of
this
year's
budget.
So
10
000
might
be
a
little
tight,
but
I
think
we
can
get
by.
If
we
had
to.
We
could
always
take
some
out
of
orders
of
the
council
if
we
run
over,
but
we
might
have
to
increase
that
just
a
little
bit
just
in
case
anything
comes
up
next
year.
D
We
have
not
used
it
all.
There
is
a
little
bit
left
in
there.
It's
actually
a
good
point
that
you
bring
that
up.
I
know
the
tree
council
keeps
asking
for
some
more
funds.
Let
me
just
check
make
sure
we
see
what
we
got,
but
I
think
we
might
do
that
with
this
money
before
the
year
is
over.
We
had
put
some
in
there
for
in
case
the
bright
box
project
went
over,
but
I
think
they're
gonna
be
okay.
J
J
D
D
D
X
Set
up
for
the
total
amount
of
the
budget
and
every
time
that
the
stenographer
comes,
the
amount
that
they
submit
for
their
invoice
reduces
that
of
a
commerce,
an
encumbrance
reserves,
the
the
use
of
the
funds
a
year.
So
if
the
budget
was
18,
000,
that's
what
they
had
set
up
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
as
an
incumbent,
so
they
reserved
the
whole
amount
to
be
used
for
stenographic
charges
and
then,
as
the
invoices
come
in
they're
paid,
but
the
encumbrance
is
reduced
by
the
same
amount.
So
currently,
there's.
X
X
F
I
think
you
I,
I
hope
that
someone
else
announced
this
and
I
missed
it,
but
what
counts
as
what's
departmental
expenses
for
us
five,
two:
zero,
zero.
Four
I
mean
it's
consistent.
Always
I'm
just
wondering
what
that
29
000
is
that's
okay!
So
that's
in
addition
to
like
the
salary
schedule,
okay
and
and
city
code,
is
that
like
for
using
unicode.
J
On
the
revenue
sign,
I
just
I
had
a
quick
question:
the
certified
copies
looking
at
the
five-year
average
on
there.
If
I'm
doing
my
math
correctly,
I
know
the
proposed
was
ten
thousand
like
the
five
year.
Average
is
about
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars
or
so
and
change,
but
it
was
reduced.
Do
we
do
we
not
foresee
that
revenue
an
extra
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
revenue
at
all,
and
I
guess
maybe
can
you
just
remind
me
what
certified
copies
are
again
is
that
birth
certificates.
J
The
certified
copies
those
birth
certificate
is
my
first
question:
if
not
what
what
are
they
and
in
the
proposed
budget
for
23?
It
was
proposed
at
10
000,
where
in
2022
it
was
at
30
000,
sorry
not
proposed
budget.
As
far
as
revenue
I
apologize
coming
in,
do
we
think
we're
going
to
go
over
that
10
000.,
just
trying
to
understand
that
no.
B
T
C
T
J
A
A
D
V
G
Yeah,
I
think
that
includes
the
city
clerk
position,
so
we
we
funded
that
we
did
a
little
bit
of
an
upgrade
in
that
position.
So
right
now,
I
believe
it's
funded
at
81
000
and
the
new
crux
gonna
be
funded
at
91
000.,
so
that
91
000
salary
is
part
of
that
salary.
Schedule
increase
along
with
the
built-in
raises
that
the
teamsters
are
getting
in
that
office.
K
Thank
you.
I
had
a
question
on
the
revenue
side
line.
Item
42137,
auto
repair
license
the
projected
revenues
for
that
seem
high
unless
I'm
missing
something
because
in
the
the
current
revenue
summary
to
date,
it
shows
that
that's
down
significantly
that
we've
only
collected
1400.
If
I
see
it
right,
it's
like
16
percent
of
projections,
we're
wondering
why
we're
increasing
why
we
expect
it
to
jump
even
more
when
it's
not
even
meeting
what
the
expected
goal
was
for
2022.