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From YouTube: April 11, 2022, Special Finance Committee Meeting
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April 11, 2022, Special Finance Committee Meeting
A
Good
evening,
everyone
tonight
we're
going
to
start
our
budget
hearings
off
with
the
public
libraries,
so
we
welcome
you
to
have
a
seat
here
at
that
nice
big
table
and
please
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
the
public
libraries
and
please
introduce
your
budget
to
us.
Thank
you.
C
Good
evening
council,
my
name
is
ed,
garcia,
the
director
of
the
cramston
public
library.
I
just
wanted
to
start
off
by
thanking
the
council
for
your
continued
support
of
our
libraries.
You
know
coming
out
of
the
pandemic,
as
we
have
over
the
last
few
years.
The
libraries
are
busier
than
ever
and
are
every
day
we
have
more
and
more
people
coming
back
into
the
library.
This
fall.
C
This
spring
we've
had
a
very
vibrant
program
schedule
with
computer
classes
for
adults
we
have
some
adult
coding
classes
coming
up
and
we're
getting
ready
for
a
very
vibrant
summer,
reading
program
for
the
children
and
teens
of
the
city,
as
well
as
some
adult
programming
as
well.
So
I
I'm
not
sure
if
you
wanted
me
to
to
highlight
anything
specifically
about
our
budget
or
if
you
wanted
me
to
just
I'm
at
the
pleasure
of
the
council,
answering
questions.
I
can
certainly
go
over
anything
that
you'd
like
me
to.
C
That
is
correct.
We
are
actively
trying
to
spend
down
a
few
line
items
that
we
might
be
a
little
high
at
this
percent
this
time
of
the
year.
So
I
anticipate
you
know
being
pretty
close
to
spent
down
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
good
evening,
director
karsha.
I
just
wanted
to
again
commend
the
work
of
the
library
system
here
in
cranston.
D
C
C
You
know
in
time
to
account
for
the
fiscal
year
we
also
had
some
issues
in
the
last
couple
of
years
during
the
pandemic
of
staffing,
where
we
did
not
need
to
have
our
full
complement
of
part-time
staff
on
just
because
of
the
restrictions
that
we
were
under
as
far
as
the
coven
restrictions
and
what
we
could
actually
do
in
the
building.
So
so
that's
what
that's
what
it
is
currently
at.
As
of
the
end
of
december.
E
I
really
don't
have
a
question,
so
just
I
want
to
make
a
comment.
Thank
you,
director,
gracia,
for
the
work
you've
been
doing
with
the
library.
E
I
was
able
to
look
the
diversity
of
books,
that's
something
mostly
we
like,
and
you
make
the
effort
to
offer
a
variety
of
diversity
in
the
book
and
for
the
history
month,
black
history
month
we
went
into
the
library
my
kids
love
going
to
this
library
when
you
have
one
close
to
us,
but
that
the
one
we
used
to
so
they
don't
want
to
change
it
and
for
the
the
staff
they
are
so
helping,
and
we
have
a
program
where
my
children
participate
on
doing
the
pandemic
and
my
son
asking
again
when
we
gonna
start
again
with
this
program.
E
C
Thank
you
councilwoman.
I
really
appreciate
that
I'll.
Let
our
our
staff
know
we
have
an
amazing
team
at
the
library
and
they're.
You
know
you
guys
see
me
a
lot
of
the
times,
but
they're
they're,
the
ones
that
do
amazing
work
with
the
with
the
patrons
and
with
the
community
and
are
typically
the
people
that,
when
the
public
comes
into
the
building,
they're
they're
doing
with
our
frontline
staff
at
the
circulation
desk
or
our
children's
librarians
or
adult
services
librarians,
and
they
do
they
do
amazing
work.
So,
thank
you.
E
There
is
one
more
thing
that
there
was
this
program:
the
team-
I
I
remember
we
were
invited-
another
council
jessica,
we're
there
council
wednesday
and
I
received
so
much
document,
and
I
I
want
to
share
it
with
my
friends
and
I
was
like
it
was
so
amazing
to
meet
with
the
young
people
who
participate
in
this.
Can
you
give
a
little
bit?
A
lot
of
people
doesn't
know
really
what's
going
on
a
little
bit
about
this
program
for
the
youth
that.
C
That
particular
program
was
was
late
last
year
and
our
teen
librarian
and
I
were
discussing
the
fact
that
we
have
so
many
really
fantastic
elected
women
officials
in
the
city
and
that
that
could
be
inspiring
for
a
lot
of
our
young
people.
So
we
invited
several
of
you
and
I
think
senator
gallo
came
and
represented.
Baginski
and
just
you
know,
had
a
lot
of
teenagers
there
where
they
were
able
to
come
and
ask
you
guys
questions
about
about
why
you
chose
politics
and
your
civic.
C
You
know
civic
duties
and
civic
government
and
I
think
it
was
really
inspiring
for
a
lot
of
the
teams
that
that
came
to
that
program.
So
I
think
that's
the
that
it
was
really
great
that
you
guys
were
all
able
to
participate.
I
think
it's
just
just
a
great
example
that
you
showed
to
to
the
young
people
in
the
city.
E
I
think
I'm
gonna
share
those
pictures
of
you
when
I
receive
them,
I
laughed
so
hard
and
they
draw
a
picture
of
all
of
us
women
who
were
there.
I
don't
know
if
you
receive
one
counsel,
you
know
so
they
make
picture
off
of
us.
We
were
there
and
whole
hands,
it
was
so
touchy.
So
I
sent
you
a
picture
I'll
take
a
picture
sent
to
you.
Thank
you
for
those,
you
know
really
every
age
you
know
find
something
and
it's
really
encouraging.
Thank
you.
D
Donegan,
thank
you
chairman,
director,
garcia,
just
as
as
you
were
mentioning
the
the
reserve
fund
in
the
capital
budget
for
this
year,
315
000
for
improvements
which
I'm
sure
are
needed,
is
it
I'm
not
top
my
head.
What
the
debt
service
would
be
on
315
000,
but
is
there
any
chance
that
money
in
the
reserve
fund
could
use
to
pay
for
part
of
that
to
reduce
the
debt
service.
C
I
would
not
be
able
to
answer
what
the
debt
service
is
on
that
amount
that
the
so
the
project
at
the
auburn
library
actually
combines
several
needed
building
upgrades
into
one
project.
We
need
renovations
of
three
restrooms
in
that
library.
The
front
entrance
to
the
library
is
not
accessible,
so
we
need
to
put
in
an
automatic
door,
but
also
widening
the
entire
entrance
to
the
building,
because
right
now,
the
way
it
is
was
constructed.
C
It's
really
difficult
for
anyone
in
a
wheelchair
or
if
you
have
a
large
stroller
to
to
be
able
to
navigate
into
the
building,
and
we
also
want
to
make
a
a
permanent
outdoor
programming
reading
area
in
the
front
of
the
library.
So
we
can,
we
can
do
more
outdoor
programming.
C
So,
as
far
as
the
reserve
fund,
that's
that's
certainly
possible
we're
looking
at
all
avenues
trying
to
find
funding
right
now
I
mentioned
that
we
were
trying
to
spend
down
some
of
our
our
lines
this
year
and
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is
part
of
the
one
of
the
other
capital
projects
that
we
had
approved
a
year
ago
was
to
pave
the
central
library
parking
lot.
C
So
the
most
important
part
of
that
is
the
sidewalks
leading
up
to
the
building
are
in
really
really
need
some
repairs,
so
we're
actually
trying
to
do
that
right
now
and
we're
also
looking
for
other
funding
for
this
project,
I'm
not
going
to
guarantee
that
we're
going
to
get
it,
but
I
did
just
apply
for
funding
through
senator
whitehouse's
office
for
the
auburn
project
for
the
entire
amount
of
it
they
were.
They
were
reaching
out
to
nonprofit
organizations
to
apply
for
various
funds.
C
I
think
this
one's
through
the
housing
and
urban
development
so
crossing
our
fingers,
maybe
we'll
get
the
entire
amount
from
from
that
project
from
that
pot
of
money,
but
we
are
looking
for
other
ways
to
pay
for
that.
Not
a
certain
piece
of
the
capital
budget.
C
If
you're,
referring
to
the
to
the
315
000
for
the
auburn
project,
as
well
as
the
parking
lot
I
just
mentioned,
neither
one
of
those
projects
have
been
bonded.
We've
we've
proposed
they've,
been
they've,
been
put
on
the
capital
budget
by
the
planning
commission,
but
they've
not
been
put
on
any
on
any
bond.
C
No,
you
know
that's
something
that
I'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
I'm
not
sure.
I
was
aware
that
they
would
do
that.
I
was
working
with
an
architect
who,
who
did
the
bid
spec
for
that,
so
I'll
follow
up
with
them
to
see.
If
there
are
any
reimbursable
expenses
that
we
can,
we
can
do
for
that.
C
So
that
that
typically
doesn't
work,
it
doesn't
happen
with
us
most
of
the
time
when
we
apply
for
for
grants.
That's
either
one
of
two
categories:
one
is
a
capital
building
expense
which
isn't
really
in
our
in
our
operating
budget
or
it
could
be
for
programming.
So
we
don't
really
have
a
line
item
in
our
in
our
budget
for
programs.
So
when
we
do
the
summer
reading
program
or
some
of
our
other
programs
that
cost
money
we're
constantly,
either
writing
small
grants
or
doing
fundraising
through
our.
C
So
the
library
has
the
cranston
public
library
association,
which
is
not
part
of
the
library.
It's
a
501c3,
separate
entity
that
does
fundraising
for
the
library
kind
of
a
friends
of
the
library
group.
So
typically,
we
may
apply
for
small
grants,
whether
it's
through
the
foundation
or
just
in
general,
that
are
that
are
programmatic
and
not
so
much
operating.
C
So
I've
been
here
for
10
years
as
the
director,
and
I
can't
think
of
a
time
where
we
actually
budgeted
something
and
they
got
a
grant
and
then
just
kept
the
money
in
the
reserve
right
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
typically
happen.
So,
yes,
typically,
you
know
programmatic
or
or
capital
building
expenditures
we
try
to
do
over
the
last
10
years.
The
city
has
been
very
generous.
C
We
had
a
bond
passed
in
2014
and
the
city's
been
very
generous,
getting
some
of
our
projects
on
the
capital
budget,
but
in
that-
and
that
was
a
1.4
million
dollar
bond.
But
in
the
same
time
I
think
we've
received
grants
from
the
champlain
foundation,
for
example,
in
excess
of
800
000
for
other
building
projects
that
the
city
didn't
have
to
actually
pay
for.
C
C
Okay-
I
I
I
I'm
sorry
about
that.
Once
I
submit
my
information,
I
don't
have
any
control
over
after
that
point.
So
the
reason
we
asked
for
that
position,
just
just
to
give
you
some
background,
is
that
we
currently
have
one
full-time
custodian
for
our
six
buildings
and
that's
been
that
way,
since
the
library
system
was
formed.
So
it's
it's
by
comparison.
I
don't
wanna,
I'm
not
saying
this
to
disparage
under
the
department,
but
the
senior
center
has
four.
C
So
we
have
tried
to
backfill
that
over
the
years
of
part-time
custodians
and
unfortunately
over
the
last
year
or
two
has
been
really
difficult
because
we've
lost
several
of
them
because
of
just
the
part-time
wages,
people
were
able
to
get
other
like
in
most
industries.
People
are,
you
know,
trying
to
get
jobs
at
the
higher
paying
jobs
elsewhere.
So
we've
had
a
hard
time,
keeping
our
part-time
custodians,
but,
as
I
told
the
mayor
once
he
had,
you
know
what
he
asked
you
know
said
he
needed
to
cut
out
of
this
budget.
C
A
Anyone
else
I
have
I
had
had
five
questions,
but
three
of
them
have
been
answered,
so
I
noticed
that
the
budgeted
payroll
for
2023
is
up
46
000
over
2022..
C
A
So
they
are
contractual
okay.
Thank
you.
The
second
thing
is,
you
are
aware
of
the
fact
that
the
council
is
daunted
with
the
task
of
looking
at
a
tax
increase
and
we've
been
advised
that
there
could
possibly
be
subsequent
tax
increases
down
the
road.
So
we're
trying
to
really
work
hard
and
take
a
look
at
this
budget
and
see
where
cuts
can
be
made.
A
C
Yeah,
you
know
that's
most
of
the
line
items
in
this
budget.
We
level
funded
so
there's
very
few
increases
that
aren't
contractual
in
here,
there's
a
few
small
ones
and
some
of
the
lines
you
might
notice
in
online
resources
and
library
supplies
where
we
actually
had.
I
think
their
two
or
three
thousand
dollar
increases
the
only
major
line.
Item
increase
here
that
is
was
not
a
personnel
contractual
increase
was
in
our
operations
line,
which
you
might
notice,
was
an
8
000
increase.
C
That
increase
actually
is
going
towards
our
security
officer.
So
we
I
want
to
say
in
2017
18
we
added
a
security
officer
at
the
central
library,
but
that
was
added
as
a
contract
with
a
security
firm.
C
So
it's
not
a
full-time
employee,
so
we
pay
the
security
firm
and
they
handle
the
salary
benefits
and
the
8
000
was
actually
an
increase
because
the
to
the
security
officer,
because
she
was
making
12.75
an
hour,
and
so
we
know
that
there's
a
minimum
wage
increase
on
the
state
later
this
year
and
when
I
was
discussing
the
the
salary
with
the
security
firm,
they
told
me
that
if
she
were
to
leave
the
starting
salary
that
they're
asking
for
all
of
their
for
any
new
hires
that
what
they're
getting
is
17
an
hour,
so
this
8
000
increase
raises
that
up
to
16..
C
So
it
didn't
go
to
the
full
17
but
was
still
an
increase
because
you
know
we
did
not
want
to
lose
this
person
and
we
knew
that
we
were
gonna.
We're
gonna
have
to
spend
more
if
we
were
if
she
was
to
leave
and
go
elsewhere.
So
that's
that's.
Like
the
major
line
item
increase,
all
the
rest
of
the
the
non-contractual
increases
are
all
you
know,
one
or
two
thousand
three
thousand
dollars.
So
you
could
certainly
level
fund
those
lines
back
to
the
year
before.
C
But
I'm
not
sure
if
that
would
really
impact-
and
you
know,
as
mr
demaio
did
mention,
we
do
have
a
maintenance
of
effort,
so
you
know
we,
which
would
basically
say,
says
that
if
our
funding
is
not
level
to
what
it
was
the
year
before,
we
would
lose
all
of
our
state
aid.
Currently
we
get
699
000
in
state
aid,
which
is
a
significant
portion
of
our
budget.
C
A
I
just
hope
you
understand
the
situation
that
we're
in
as
a
council.
Anyone
have
any
last-minute
questions
pertaining
to
the
budget
of
the
library.
Yes,
councilman
jermaine
councilwoman
jimmy.
E
Okay,
one
question
I
have
is
light9151306.
E
Legal
services
phone,
would
you
give
us
a
little
bit
explanation
about
so
you
have
your
own
council
volleyball,.
C
Yeah,
yes,
the
board
of
trustees
retains
their
own
legal
counsel,
and
this
this
fund
is
typically
used
most
frequently
when
there's
a
labor
year.
So
this
year
we
just
went
through.
We
just
negotiated
a
new
contract
for
the
union
and
that-
and
in
fact
our
our
legal
line
is
going
to
be
higher
than
what
is
budgeted,
because
you
know
the
way
the
negotiations,
how
long
they
took
so
in
a
normal
budget
year.
We
typically
spend
around
the
you
know
the
four
thousand.
C
There
may
be
cases
where
there's
where
there's
just
a
labor
question
that
the
trustees
have
and
we
when
we
talk
to
our
retained
council,
I
actually
do
talk
to
the
city,
solicitors,
on
most
of
our
legal
matters,
and
I
have
done
so
for
for
a
number
of
years.
So
you
know
we
try
to
keep
those
expenses
pretty
small.
A
Next
up
is
economic
development.
You
can
ask
director
paulino.
G
Yes,
thank
you.
My
name
is
franklin
polino,
I'm
the
director
of
economic
development
for
the
city
of
cranston.
Our
economic
development
program,
promotes
business
coming
into
the
city
of
cranston.
G
G
Currently,
the
city
of
cranston
has
approximately
2
500
small
business
and
we
are.
We
are
waiting
for
the
upper
fund.
G
We
are
very
excited
for
the
funds
to
come
available,
so
we
can
help
a
small
business
that
came
out
the
pandemic.
G
Our
budget,
our
office
has
two
employees
myself
and
secretary.
Martial
oppressi
she's
been
with
the
department
almost
20
years
and
that's
what
we
have
currently
the
salary
there's
a
full
salary
is
142
214.
G
G
We
don't
have
no
federal
grants,
the
chamber
of
commerce,
we
had
it
last
year,
there's
no
chamber
of
commerce
currently,
but
I'm
enrolled
in
the
rotary
organization
and
on
marketing.
We
are
requesting
a
five
dollar
upgrade
from
three
thousand
five
hundred
to
four
thousand.
We
are
asking
for
that
race
because
we
have
the
opera
fund
coming
in
and
it's
the
big
project
that
we're
going
to
have
and
we
like
to
market.
G
G
So
that's
that's
our
budget,
which
is
a
total
of
225
814
dollars.
G
There
was
one
individual
in
royal
square
that
was
trying
to
be
the
trying
to
be
involved
in
it,
but
he
he's
sick
and
so
there's
a
pause
on
that
and
there's
another
there's
another
alliance
group
that
wants
to
bring
it
in
it's
just
a
matter
of
having
the
person
come
in
and
and
putting
together
a
group
of
individuals.
G
So
they
could
start
the
chamber,
but
it's
we
just
need
individuals
to
come
forward
and
see
who's,
gonna,
organize
it
and
redo.
It.
G
Well
today,
just
the
governor
announced
a
project
that
I
was
working
with
is
to
take
it
outside,
and
the
city
of
cranston
was
awarded
250
000
and
that
just
today,
so
we're
going
to
be
working
on
that
helping
small
restaurants
or
a
restaurant
in
the
city
of
cranston,
especially
ross
square,
patopsia,
village,
rob
square
and
park
avenue
and
reservoir
courier
and
well
we're
working
on
the
on
the
opera
fund.
G
G
G
We
haven't
used
that
so
when
we
go
and
have
the
ribbon
cutting,
we
really,
although
all
the
meet
and
greet
and
other
activities
that
we
can
have
and
that
we
have
to
rent
a
a
room
or
a
restaurant
or
any
of
those
activities.
We
haven't
had
much
of
those.
D
G
Oh
yes,
we
just
finished
the
agreement
with
with
the
lawyers
and
that
agreement
is
all
set.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
have
a
meeting
on
wednesday
with
christine
donnell
just
to
finalize
that.
D
Great
and
yes
again
sorry,
I
can't
make
that
meeting.
What
do
you
think?
That's
gonna
help
increase
revenues
for
the
city
for
for
the
taxes
we
might
receive
from
meal
and
beverage.
Well,
yes,.
G
The
tourism
agreement
that
we
have
they
will
be
providing
the
website
and
it
will
be
giving
the
city
of
cranston
a
lot
of
exposure
in
terms
of
tourism
and
the
hospitality
and
all
the
restaurant
that
we
have
in
the
city.
So
it's
gonna
be
very
helpful
because
it's
a
it's
a
partnership
of
providence,
cranston
and
warwick.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
exposure
for
the
city
of
branston.
A
Okay,
I
had
three:
two
of
them
were
answered:
oh
actually,
one
of
them
was
answered.
Your
payroll
for
2023
is
budgeted,
is
up,
seven
thousand
dollars
from
2022
and
ten
thousand
dollars
up
from
2021.
G
My
salary
went
up
and
this
year
I
believe
I
don't
know
what
was
my
increase,
but
our
secretary,
I
think,
is
contractual
so
she's
up.
I
don't
think
she
had
it
last
year,
so
I
think
she
gets
it
this
year.
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
the
percentage
so.
A
A
Okay,
as
I
had
said
to
director
garcia,
I
realized
that
the
majority
of
your
budget
is
payroll
and
fixed.
Yes,
so
I
I'll
ask
you
this
question
anyways,
but
I
don't
really
see
anything
myself.
Do
you
see
anywhere
in
your
budget
where
you
could
cut
expenses
to
help
bring
the
overall
budget
down
to
prevent
a
tax
increase.
E
Yeah
good
evening
I
I
know
you
really
focus
on
helping
the
small
businesses
and
I
saw
your
work
and
I
commend
you
all
for
that.
I
saw
your
own
and
my
question
is:
is
there
any
way
we,
while
we
are
helping
as
well
but
those
businesses
bringing
some
way
within
you,
so
do
do
they
bring
something
as
well,
because
we
want
to
help
them.
We
are
independent,
but
is
there
a
way
also
when
we
get
something
from
them.
A
G
Yes,
well,
you
know
they.
You
know
all
these
business
that
we
have.
You
know
they're
the
backbone
of
our
community.
You
know
they
have
job
creation,
you
know
they
have
people
working
and
also
we
are
retaining
we,
we
are
retaining
job
and
you
know
we're
not
losing
business
to
other
cities.
You
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
individuals.
They
want
to
come
to
the
city
of
cranston
to
do
business.
G
A
G
I
I
I
That's
small,
and
with
that
other
than
you
know,
salary
lines
benefits
basically
keeping
things
the
same
slight
increase
in
office
supplies
because
that's
the
way
things
have
been
trending
and
the
only
I'll
say
real
discretionary
spending,
perhaps
could
be
the
orders
of
the
mayor
and
public
observances
the
level
funding
that,
because,
just
as
last
year,
as
I
explained
I
like
to,
I
think,
it's
important
to
kind
of
keep
a
little
bit
of
joy
in
the
city
and
some
spirit
and
community
and
to
fund
various
events
like
a
fall
harvest,
festival
which
we
attended
last
year,
covert
struck
again
that
didn't
happen.
I
We
did
the
veterans
day
parade
we're
looking
at
perhaps
some
things
as
a
summer
type
festival,
perhaps
a
holiday
type
festival,
and
then
some
of
the
public
observances
would
be
things
in
the
council
chambers
outside
for
for
various
types
of
holidays
or
commemorations,
although
just
as
if
we
kept
the
the
proposed,
we
have
orders
of
the
council,
we
kept
that
at
seventeen
thousand
from
last
year,
which
was
a
no-line
item
from
the
year
before
so,
in
the
same
spirit
with
leaving
those
items
in
there.
A
Any
questions
for
director
moretti,
councilman
donican
thank.
D
You
chairman,
good
evening,
director
one
the
one
question
I
have
is
on
the
excuse
me
part
help
zeroed
out
from
seventeen
000
that
it
was
in
fiscal
22
which,
based
on
the
actuals
for
the
year
so
far,
it's
only
about
2300,
so
it
makes
sense
for
that
to
be
significantly
reduced.
D
Only
the
the
question
I
have,
though,
is
that
over
the
past
five
years,
or
so
it's
never
been
other
than
this
here,
the
current
budget,
it's
never
been
lower
than
25
000,
so
is
it?
D
I
You,
if
you
notice
it
was
really
last
year
in
the
in
the
salary
line.
That's
where
the
change
occurred,
whereas
a
position,
a
couple
of
part-timers,
were
converted
to
a
full-time
position,
so
it
went
there
and
in
a
part-time
remains,
but
we
felt
that
we
didn't.
It
wasn't
necessary
to
keep
that
person.
That's
why
it's
running
lower
now,
because
we're
operating
that
way.
A
This
council
approved
an
increase
in
your
budget
from
2021
to
2022
of
16
in
payroll,
not
pointing
at
that,
but
is
there
any
chance
that
it
doesn't
have
to
go
up
another
four
thousand
dollars?
I
mean
it
was
a
16
from
2021
to
2022,
which
is
a
substantial
increase
in
payroll.
So
we
would.
I
would
expect
that
maybe
in
20
2023
that
maybe
it
could
be
truly
lovely
level
funded
to
the
dollar.
A
It's
just
a
question
and
my
second
question
would
be
this
is
a
suggestion,
the
tenth
is
it
ten
or
nine
thousand
dollars
for
public
observances,
which
I
would
not
in
a
million
years
want
to
take
away
from
you,
but
couldn't
we
get
businesses
to
sponsor
those
things
and
get
them
to
pay
for
them,
so
we
could
save
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
know
it's
only
ten
thousand
dollars,
but
maybe
we
could
even
get
more
than
ten
thousand
dollars
from
and
put
that
money
into
some
other
function
of
the
executive
office.
It's
just
a
suggestion.
I
I'll
take
the
latter
one.
Yes,
certainly,
I
believe,
like
fall
harvest,
festivals
things
like
that,
this
would
kind
of
be
a
net
number.
We
would
look
at
businesses
that
would
want
to
do
sponsorships
and
if
we
don't
have
to
spend
the
money,
we
won't
spend
the
money.
But
but
you
answered
your
questions
yeah,
maybe.
A
The
economic
development
department
could
take
on
that
task
of
surveying
businesses
in
the
area
sure
to
sponsor
the
parade
or
to
sponsor
the
autumn
fest
or
the
sponsor
of
the
hanukkah
christmas
wreath.
Whatever
I
mean,
I'm
sure
businesses
would
get
in
line
to
be
standing
out
there
with
the
mayor
when
these
things
are
on
channel
10
channels.
A
I
You
did
ask
the
other
question,
I
believe
on
increases,
it's
just
giving
you
know
nominal
increases
to
employees
in
terms
of
the
salaries.
That's
what
that
was.
I
Except
for
the
mayor,
and
every
other
michael
had
mentioned,
administrative
salaries
were
increased
three
percent
and
that's
basically
the
appointees,
the
the
directors
a
couple
of
non-directed
positions.
I
believe
it
has
an
effect
of
approximately
thirty
thousand
dollars.
Overall,
a
couple
of
thoughts
were
behind.
That
is
every
everybody
else
in
the
city
is
getting
increases
contractually,
just
because
they
unfortunately
are
appointed
by
the
mayor.
I
Those
people
have
to
go
to
food
shopping
themselves
and
face
inflation,
so
I
thought
that
was
a
fair
thing
to
do.
The
second
part
of
that
was
a
problem
we
have
now,
and
it
kind
of
touched
upon
that
at
the
about
the
finance
director
in
private
administration
apparently
increases
we're
not
giving
most
of
the
years.
In
fact,
I
think
director
strom
told
me
that
of
the
12
years
he
was
there.
I
think
he
received
three
increases.
I
I
thought
that
made
the
city
pretty
uncompetitive
and,
as
you
can
see,
and
we'll
present
some
information
about
where
cranston
does
see,
as
it
does
stand
as
the
second
largest
community
and
basically
at
best
we
kind
of
stand
in
the
middle
in
terms
of
our
salaries
and
compensation.
So
without
doing
it
just
feeling
that
we
would
get
that
much
more
behind
the
competitive
curve
and
that's
just
an
honest
assessment,
those
are
the
two
reasons
why
the
increases
that
may
have
felt
would
be
justified.
E
A
I
I'll
ask
I
I
don't
I
I
saw
that
and
noticed
that
that
was
the
trend,
but
much
of
that
was
early
on
when
the
administration
came
up
became
my
board,
so
I'm
sure
there
were
changes
having
to
do
with
stationary
and
with
some
one-time
expenses.
So
I
I
I
you
know
do
feel
be
tracking
kind
of
consistent
over
the
past
couple
of
months,
which
won't
be
that
higher
trend
and
that's
why
there
is
a
small
increase
in
for
next
year.
If
I
think
it
was
a
couple
of
thousand
dollars.
B
J
Now
that
the
mic
works
for
those
watching
this
virtually,
I
just
raised
the
issue
of
the
office
supplies
expenses
being
currently
significantly
over
budget
of
about
four
thousand
dollars
to
be
exact,
three
thousand
seven
hundred
seventy
nine
dollars
and
just
was
wondering
what
the
reason
was
for
that
and
what
efforts
you
know
will
be
made
going
forward,
since
we
still
have
another
quarter
plus.
That's
all.
Thank
you.
E
Sorry
line
item
five,
two
one
one
one,
these
dudes,
I
see
zero
zero.
Just
give
me
a
little
explanation.
We
don't
do
anything
the
city
not
at
all
now.
I
Well,
this
would
be
the
executive
branch.
One
thing
there
there's
the
next
line
that
there's
a
different
type
of
dues
league
of
cities
and
towns,
which
is
quite
expensive,
and
that
went
up
on
us
if
you
notice
that
next
line
item,
but
because
of
we're
trying
to
conserve
the
mayor
and
the
even
the
administration
are
not
belonging
to
associations
which
could
be
a
little
to
the
detriment.
Frankly,
in
terms
of
sharing
information
sharing,
but
we're
not
putting
if
any
increases
to
belong
to
further
societies
or
the
other
leaks.
A
If
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
your
department
and
your
budget
to
us,
we
would
really
appreciate
that.
Then
we
might
have
a
few
questions
for
you.
D
Donegan,
thank
you
chairman,
good
evening
solicitor.
The
one
question
I
have
it's
a
good
one.
I
think
line
item
where,
where
am
I
here
outside
legal
services
on
the
expenditure
side?
Yes,
so
for
fiscal
22,
it's
for
425,
000,
it's
being
reduced
by
25
000
to
400
for
this
year
and
for
the
current
fiscal
year
we're
running
at
62,
which
is
significantly
lower
than
what
it
what
we've
paid
in
outside
legal
fees
over
the
years.
H
So
one
of
the
things
councilman
that
I've
been
trying
to
do
on
behalf
of
the
department
and
the
city
is
try
to
utilize
the
services
of
the
the
members
I
have
on
staff
and
we
I
have
been
through
my
whole
department.
I
am
nothing
more
than
a
figurehead
as
far
as
everyone
else.
It's
a
team
effort
and
we've
been
successful
on
a
lot
of
things
where,
in
the
past
it
may
have
been
given
out
to
outside
legal
counsel.
H
I've
been
trying
my
best
if
it's
something
within
lack
of
a
better
term,
the
wheelhouse
of
of
the
attorneys
that
I
have
on
staff.
Then
I've
been
trying
to
use
that.
I
have
been
leaning
on
my
staff
a
little
bit
more
than
maybe
in
years
past,
so
I'm
trying
to
take
some
money
out
of
the
outside
budget
and
use
it
correctly.
H
Just
simple
math:
if
the
outside
agencies
are
billing
at
x
dollars
per
hour-
and
I
have
someone
on
staff
that
salary
I'm
trying
to
do
that
the
best
I
can
and
that's
basically
what
that
number
is-
and
I
am
still
and
again
this
goes
to
the
entire
staff
of
the
law
department,
not
me,
but
my
budget
I'm
running
under
budget
right
now
as
far
as
outside
legal
counsel,
I'm
projecting
to
be
just
about
slim
under
in
the
in
the
current
fiscal
year.
J
Thank
you
good
evening,
mr
malay.
I
had
a
question.
Unlike
the
other
departments,
I
found
missing
in
the
budget
for
the
operating
expenditures,
the
actual
breakdown
of
your
staff,
how
many
solicitors,
what
the
salaries
are
etcetera.
So
when
will
you
be
presenting
that
to
us.
H
I
believe
councilwoman
that
I
did
present
that
at
the
original
budget,
when
it
was
presented,
I
certainly
could
provide
a
breakdown
to
that.
I
have
myself
included
five
attorneys
on
staff,
so
I
could
certainly
present
that
at
a
later
date
I
could
grab
it
from
miss
marino
who
runs
all
the
books
in
the
department,
but
that
is.
That
is
something
that
I
have
previously
provided,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
provide
that.
J
Yes,
if
that
could
be
supplemented,
assuming
that
that
would
be
great,
and
so
it's
five
solicitors
in
the
office
and
one
administrative
staff
being
miss
mourinho,
no
relation,
but
for
the
record.
H
That's
correct:
I
have
myself
and
four
assistants
and
and
miss
mourinho
as
my
administrative
assistant.
Yes,.
J
Are
those
solicitor
positions,
those
part-time.
H
H
H
H
Director
of
my
department,
okay,
chairperson,
I
have-
I
do
have
my
outside
practice,
but
this
takes
up
a
majority
of
my
time.
A
H
Again,
it's
not
an
hourly
basis;
it's
it's
a
work
basis.
So
if
a
case
comes
in
whatever
the
the
legal
situation
is
that
the
city
faces-
and
I
assign
solicitor
x
to
it-
then
solicit
x
is
responsible
for
that.
For
that
matter,.
A
Sometimes,
when
we
get
the
the
legal
analysis
for
some
of
our
meetings
for
some
of
the
finance
meetings,
some
of
the
law
firms
bill
150
an
hour
some
bill,
200
some
bill,
250
some
bill
even
more
than
that.
So
it's
your
job
to
try
and
get
someone.
That's
already
on
your
staff
to
take
some
of
that
work
to
alleviate
paying
those
kind
of
fees.
H
Yes,
and
if
it's
a
new,
some
of
those
fees
have
been
agreed
to
previously
and
if
something
new
is
coming
up,
I'm
doing
my
best
to
negotiate
a
better
fee.
H
It's
I
will
say
it's
difficult
with
some
of
the
bigger
firms
to
accept
a
difficult,
a
different
fee.
I
I
don't
know
how
to
say
it.
You
know
I've
done
my
best.
I've
got
my
part-time
work,
the
the
individuals
working
in
district
court,
they're
hourly
municipal
court,
and
then
we
use
outside
firms
depending
on
the
the
individual
legal
case,
a
as
everything
comes
out
in
the
door.
Everything
is
a
case-by-case
basis.
Mr
president,.
H
I'm
absolutely,
I
will
absolutely
try
that
and
absolutely
work
to
assist
with
the
council.
E
Thank
you
good
evening.
I
want
willie
to
piggyback
on
what
council
the
question
council
drink
and
ask.
Thank
you
for
really
working
to
reduce
the
the
feed
down
the
outside
thing.
This
is
from
I
see
like
for
2019.
It
was
924
thousand
dollars
and
to
to
be
to
come
at
400.
This
is
a
tremendous
progress
I
would
say
so.
My
question
is
what
you
can
advise
any
department
in
the
city,
whoever
to
make
sure
that
we
prevent
having
you
know
this
thing
we
cannot
prevent,
I
know,
but
what
can
they
do
to
prevent?
E
Having
those
litigation
that
costs
us
a
lot
of
money,
because
we
need
to
work
proactively,
and
I
and
I
think
every
department
can
try
to
do
that-
to
to
not
having
those
litigation
where
we
have
to
really
have
outside
help.
H
Thank
you,
councilwoman.
The
question
is
insightful
in
in
so
much
as
I
will
say
that
every
member
every
department
head
is
unbelievable,
contacting
me
before
they
do
anything
which
could
result
in
any
type
of
legal
fees.
We're
constantly
chatting
I'm
constantly
chatting
with
the
different
different
department
heads,
and
so
I
I
will
not
speak
years
past
years,
president
and
so
forth,
because
everything
is
a
case-by-case
basis.
Obviously,
with
the
city,
everything
comes,
but
we
are
doing
our
best.
H
The
administration
has
been
tremendous
on
contacting
the
law
department,
reviewing
everything
before
we
enter
into
a
contract
or
before
there's
any
action
taken.
I
heard
mr
garcia,
you
know
speak
to
that
that
exact
thing
he
contacts
me
a
lot
parks
and
rec,
you
name
it.
H
Department
of
public
works,
there's
a
lot
of
different
departments
within
the
city
that
contact
me
before
doing
anything,
and
we
are,
I
will
say,
every
member
every
department
head
is
very
conscious
on
doing
anything
that
could
result
in
any
type
of
legal
activity
and
so
we're
doing
our
best.
But
there
are
some
things
that
are
beyond
our
control.
H
E
Thank
you
one
last
question:
do
we
have
a
pattern
like
you
have
some
sort
of
thing?
That's
come
up,
that's
where
you
always
have
illegal
something
in
litigation.
Do
we
have
a
problem
like
we
can
I
follow
this
like
you
can
work
on
that?
So
do
we
have
a
parent.
H
D
Donegan,
thank
you.
I
was
going
to
ask
this
question
when
talking
about
claims,
but
you
brought
up
being
just
being
self-insured
on
a
on
a
property
and
casualty
standpoint.
Do
you
think
that
there's
potential
opportunity
for
savings
taking
out
some
sort
of
liability
policy
to
protect
the
city
from
you
know
major
claims.
H
I
mean
it's
something
that
we
I
certainly
would
like
to
look
into
of
joining
the
you
know,
the
interlocal
trust.
Again,
I
don't
know
until
we
do
the
weighing
the
risk
there's
different
policies
that
they
offer
different
coverages,
that
they
offer
I'm
certainly
willing
to
go
out
and
weigh
each
policy
and
and
present
it
to
the
council.
It's
something
that
that
can
be
considered
in
the
future,
but
as
of
right
now,
obviously
being
self-insured.
We
cover
it.
A
F
Sure
the
the
claims
committee
is
charged
with
paying
for
any
claims
that
come
before
the
city,
both
people
that
that
sue,
the
city
and
also
for
insurance
policies
that
the
city
retains
the
budget
for
the
the
claims
committee
is
paid
from
the
finance
department
as
an
expense.
F
Claims
are
like
snow,
you
don't
know
when
they're
coming
or
how
much
they're
coming
for
or
if
we're
going
to
have
a
good
year
or
a
bad
year.
But
the
budget
for
the
presentation
for
fiscal
year
23
is
level
funded
at
1.2
million
dollars,
consisting
basically
of
of
money
set
aside
for
insurance
policies
and
claims
payments.
So
if
there's
an
accident
with
one
of
our
vehicles
and
the
person
comes
after
us,
then
we
pay
it
out
of
the
claims
department.
D
The
I
mean
it's
it's
a
tough
question
because,
like
you
said
we
I
mean
you
never
know,
every
every
claim
on
the
agenda
could
be
a
pothole
or
it
could
be
a
you
know:
50
000,
t-bone
accident.
You
know
involving
a
public
works
truck.
You
never
know
really
what
the
claims
are
going
to
come
across.
Gianna's
descrip.
D
So
claimants
outside
claimants,
it's
running
at
about
94
through
the
first
three
quarters
and
it
is.
It
is
a
number
that's
trending
upwards.
Over
the
past
couple
years,
151
156,
166,
270
300.
D
F
You're
right
kaufman,
I
mean,
if
you
look
at
the
21
actuals,
it
was
300
000,
but
then
the
year
before
that
you
know
it
was
only
270..
So
it's
it's
just
a
fair
estimate
of
where
we've
been
for
the
last
few
years.
E
I
always
have.
Thank
you.
Oh.
I
always
have
asked
this
question
because
when
it
comes
to
crime,
each
department
has
like,
for
example,
if
there
is
a
collusion
between
fire
and
police
and
with
the
submitted
claim,
so
I
will
always
want
to
know
why
each
department
has
to
submit
a
claim
to
to
this
to
the
same
city.
So
that's
is
it
because
we
are
self-insured,
correct.
F
F
That's
right:
yes,
this
money.
It
basically
is
to
reflect
the
true
cost
of
a
department.
So
there's
three
departments,
police,
fire
and
public
works
that
have
line
items
for
claims,
so
if
they
have,
if
they
commit
the
the
injury
that
that
results
in
the
claim
they
get
charged
to
that
department
first,
but
then
there's
other
people
that
that
might
have
a
claim
for
against
the
city
that
comes
out
of
this.
F
So
when
we
get
to
the
public,
works,
police
and
fire
you'll
see,
there's
a
line
within
each
budget
that
was
set
up
a
few
years
ago,
so
that
they
can
be
more
accountable
and
more
aware
of
trying
to
be
safer
with
with
their
actions
so
that
they
don't
commit,
or
we
don't
have
those
claims
to
pay.
E
My
my
question
is
because
we
are
self-insured,
so
we
we
did
not
feeling
you
know
the
the
costs
and
I
see
a
lot
of
claim
coming
and
you
know
this
thing
we
cannot
prevent,
but
at
the
same
time,
how
we
can
detail
or
how
do
I
say
to
for
having
people
more
cautious.
F
Well,
I
think
training
probably
would
be
the
the
biggest
thing
you
know
like
training
program
for
drivers
and
driving
awareness.
That
to
me
would
would
be
the
really
I
mean
it
is
an
accident.
You
know
in
the
end,
that's
the
word
it's
an
accident,
you
know
so,
but
I
think
training
is
probably
the
most
effective
way
to
avoid
these
types
of
accidents.
E
F
A
C
E
F
E
How
we
can
be
more
proactive
to
make
sure
if
someone
has
thought
we
are
accident
and
what
can
happen
and
something
that
can
deter
them
not
to
do
not.
You
know,
be
more
careful,
we
know
we
cannot
give
an
accident,
we
know
right,
but
sometimes
you
know
if
you
know
this
is
what's
gonna
happen.
You've
been
more
cautious.
F
Well
again,
I
think
it
goes
back
to
training.
You
know
that
if
somebody
is
a
repetitive
offender
or
or
repeatedly
getting
into
accidents,
well,
you
know
it's
up
to
the
management
of
that
department
to
say:
hey.
This
guy
needs
to
be
trained
better
on
at
his
job
or
maybe
reassigned
to
a
different
type
of
job.
A
Councilwoman
jermaine,
when
we
sit
down
with
each
department,
you
might
want
to
ask
like
public
works
or
please
fire
if
they
do
in
fact
have
programs
that
mine.
You
know
that
type
of
thing.
That
might
be
a
good
question
at
that
time
for
them
not
not
to
watch
chief
accountant
over
here.
A
D
Yeah,
the
the
one
thing
I'll
add,
is
and
director
pirillo
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
a
couple
years
ago
there
was
an
incident
where
we
had
a
habitual
offender
in
one
department
down
on
cranston
street
that
was
delivering
food
and
I
believe
that
individuals
reassigned
to
a
different
duty
within
the
within
the
senior
center.
So
I
know
in
the
past,
staffing
arrangements
have
been
shifted.
When
you
know
we
get
three
or
four
claims
in
from
the
same
person
driving.
A
K
Evening
so
my
large
department
is
responsible
for
conducting
all
civil
service,
testing,
police
and
fire
promotions,
discipline,
contract
negotiations,
policy,
development
and
so
forth.
The
budget
two
increases
our
salary
for
the
three
percent
raised
for
myself
and
my
assistant
and
part-time
help,
which
includes
gail,
topakian,
retired,
colonel
police,
colonel
downstairs,
who
works
the
front
desk
and
dominic
deandre,
who
was
kind
of
a
floater.
So
he
started
out
working
at
the
desk
when
the
colonel
came
over.
K
A
K
Yeah
I
did
cut
the
drug
and
alcohol
by
a
thousand,
but
it's
trending
a
little
lower
this
year.
That's
one
thing:
it
really
changed.