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Description
Special City Council Meeting
Special Finance Committee Meeting
A
Everyone
welcome
to
the
thursday
april
7th
special
city
council
meeting.
Madam
clerk,
can
you
please
take
the
role.
C
D
A
President,
this
meeting
was
called
in
accordance
with
section
3.07
of
the
home
rule
charter
and
section
2.04.060.
A
Of
the
city
code,
this
meeting
has
been
called
to
order.
I
like
to
entertain
the
motion
to
take
the
agenda
out
of
order.
D
D
A
Yes,
before
we
begin
I'd
just
like
to
welcome
the
honorable
mayor,
ken
hopkins
to
the
chambers,
welcome
mayor
good,
to
see
you
as
always.
First
up,
we
have
the
advice
and
consent
and
appointment
of
robert
zarnesky
as
finance
director,
but
before
we
get
into
any
discussion
on
that,
I
see
director
moretti
at
the
podium
and
I
will
open
it
up
to
you,
sir.
E
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
president,
because
of
the
criticality
of
this
position,
with
the
meaning
of
of
the
appointment
of
the
finance
directed
to
the
city
and
in
light
of
some
questions
and
concerns
that
developed
last
night,
the
mayor
requests
a
continuation
so
that
we
can
provide
supplemental
information
at
a
later
time.
A
A
Okay,
because
there
is
a
time
deadline,
obviously
we
heard
from
a
solicitor,
so
just
bear
with
me
for
one.
Second,
I
want
to
make
sure
we
stay
within
that
time
frame
that
the
charter
provides.
A
A
Do
you
have
direct
them
ready,
do
you
want?
Do
you
have
any
introduction
or
anything
you
wanted
to
say
from
yesterday,
where
we
left
off.
E
Sure,
just
I
don't,
I
think,
all
council
members
that
are
here
this
evening
were
here
yesterday.
So
I
think
you
all
would
want
to
agree
that
I
don't
reiterate
the
introduction
and
qualifications
of
mr
zanetsky,
but
what
I'm
kind
of
focusing
on
is
last
evening
there
was
a
concern
about
a
one
prerequisite
for
the
position
that
was
mentioned.
It
had
to
do
with
a
charter
requirement.
E
In
fact,
that
requirement
in
part
states
that
the
finance
director
quote
shall
be
a
person
skilled
in
governmental
accounting,
budgeting
in
financial
administration
in
evaluating
that,
and
if
it
does
appear
that
mr
zarnetsky
is
qualified
in
all
respects,
except
there
was
a
concern
about
the
issue
of
governmental
accounting,
focusing
on
the
key
word
skilled.
E
Respectfully,
we
submit
that
skill
does
not
mean
that
the
director
needs
to
be
a
practicing
accountant.
That
does
the
accounting,
as
you
know,
there's
other
people
in
the
department
that
do
that
work
and
certainly
if
those
positions
are
being
filled,
we
would
want
to
fill
that
with
an
accountant
that
populates
those
columns.
E
So,
however,
we
looking
upon
the
definition
of
of
skill,
which
I
think
is
critical
here,
so
that
seems
to
be
an
issue.
Webster's
dictionary
does
say
it
is
the
ability
to
use
one's
knowledge
effectively
and
readily
in
execution
or
performance.
E
And
I
have
to
say-
and
this
is
my
own
personal
comments-
I'm
a
certified
public
accountant-
I
have
been
cfo
of
companies
before
I've
been
a
controller
for
one
truly
part
of
me:
yeah
one
trillion
dollar
business.
I've
been
an
internal
order
director
of
a
one
trillion
dollar
a
part
of
me
billion
dollar
business.
I
certainly
would
have
no
qualms
about
hiring
mr
zandesky
as
a
chief
financial
officer
of
a
of
that
size,
a
business
he
has.
E
He
has
that
skill
set
to
try
to
hone
in
on
a
word
with
the
fathers
of
the
city,
but
using
the
word
skills
which
the
webster's
dictionary
supports.
That's
not
relevant
in
this
case.
Certainly
expert
in
the
field
might
pertain
to
other
positions,
as
said,
but
certainly
this
gentleman
deserves
a
fresh
shake.
This
position
is
too
critical
to
the
city.
E
E
I
lost
sleep
last
night,
not
because
of
my
position,
but
because
of
the
danger
by
not
awarding
mr
zaneski
this
position,
we
are
putting
the
city
in
jeopardy
and,
frankly,
I
hope
you
realize
that
to
be
bigger
than
politics
to
be
getting
bigger
than
party
to
just
to
really
look
at
evaluate
this
person.
Does
this
man
have
it?
Does
he
have
the
character?
Does
he
have
the
expertise?
Does
he
have
the
wherewithal?
E
Can
he
use
that
information
that
mr
igo
produces
to
be
effective
in
helping
every
resident
in
the
city
and
being
fair
and
being
truthful
with
the
city
council
and
being
truthful
for
me
with
mayor
hopkins,
when
he
disagrees
with
with
may
hopkins,
because
he's
going
to
maya
hopkins
hardly
knows
mr
zarnetsky,
but
it's
certainly
working
with
him
at
a
distance.
If
you
will-
and
mr
zanes
he's
been
helpful-
the
state
giving
some
advice
to
cranston
in
terms
of
options
and
interpreting
the
opera
rules
that,
by
way
of
example,.
E
It's
just
too
critical
to
this
city
and
I
think
the
city
will
be
put
in
jeopardy
if
he
is
not
appointed
at
this
time.
The
city
has
been
recruiting
this
position
for
the
last
year,
mr
strom
expressed
that
he
would
be
leaving
at
the
beginning
of
2022..
He
stayed
on
a
couple
of
months,
so
networking
started.
Then
we
didn't
just
end
up.
We
ended
up
with
one
candidate,
mr
zarnevsky,
that
doesn't
mean
he's
the
bottom
of
the
barrel.
He
was
a
top
we're
fortunate
to
have
him.
E
We
don't
know
where
to
go.
After
this
a
year
went
by.
There
were
six
applicants.
There
was
no
one
else
we
plan
on
presenting.
It
will
be
a
long
time
unless
someone
comes
out
of
the
woodwork
before
the
administration
is
able
to
present
another
candidate.
So
I
ask
your
consideration
in
every
respect
from
mr
zaneski
and
truly
evaluate
the
person
that
he
is
in
the
background
that
he
brings
to
the
city.
Truly
ask
you
to
consider
that
blow
my
heart.
Thank
you.
F
I
just
want
to
reiterate:
we've
had
the
same
questions
and
the
same
concerns
regarding
mr
zaneski
that
the
council
has,
but
we
have
vetted
him.
We
have
met
with
him.
We
have
utilized
his
skill
set
when
it
comes
to
opera
and
he's
someone
that
we
feel
can
do
the
job
for
the
city,
like
mr
director
moretti
said,
even
though
he
only
had
six
applicants,
mr
zainski
stood
out
above
all
others.
No
other
person
had
the
missile
experience
that
he
had.
F
No
one,
we
questioned
expect
the
skill
set,
the
accounting,
the
the
wording
of
the
charter.
He
fills
the
bill
for
the
city
and
it
doesn't
do
the
council
any
good,
not
giving
him
the
opportunity
to
represent
the
mayor
and
the
administration
and
going
forward
if
he's
not
doing
a
good
job.
Mayor
hopkins
has
the
ability
to
move
on
from
him
there's
no
harm
in
giving
him
the
opportunity
to
take
the
job.
Take
the
reins
and
move
forward.
A
E
Members,
thank
you.
I
forgot
to
mention
this.
I
believe
there
is
a
former
no
part
of
me.
Current
finance
director
strom
submitted
a
letter
to
the
city
clerk.
I
wonder
if
she
could
read
it
and
present
that
to
the
council,
if
she
has
that,
I
think
that
might
be
something
of
value.
G
A
All
right,
would
you
mind,
reading
that
briefly
to
the
council
and
then
we're
going
to
go
with
the
council
member
questions.
Thank
you.
B
Dear
city,
council
members,
I
respectfully
wish
to
share
with
you
my
impressions
of
robert
zaneski
and
his
qualifications
to
sub
succeed
me
as
finance
director.
I
have
had
the
pleasure
to
meet
and
work
with
rob
over
the
past
several
months
during
the
recent
budget
process
and
collaborate
on
the
interpretation
and
availability
of
uses
of
opera
funds.
Throughout
this
time
he
demonstrated
an
excellent
understanding
of
accounting
and
budgetary
concepts,
and
the
intricacies
of
municipal
finance
rob
demonstrated
that
he
is
more
than
qualified
to
secede
me
as
defined
in
the
city
charter.
B
B
If
appointed
rob
will
depend
on
controller
mike
igo
and
chief
finance
clerk
george
forte,
just
as
I
did
in
the
preparation
of
accounting
statements
in
expenditure
reports.
I
am
convinced
that
rob
is
skilled
at
understanding
and
effectively
applying
to
disciplines
of
governmental,
accounting,
budget,
budgeting
and
financial
administration,
as
defined
in
the
city
charter.
B
You
and
other
councils
have
trusted
me
for
many
years
as
finance
director
as
your
outgoing
finance
director.
I
hope
that
you
will
trust
my
judgment
and
recommendation
and
give
rob
your
support
through
his
advice
and
consent
process,
along
with
the
well-merited
and
affordable
salary
adjustment
for
him
in
his
position.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
rose
alba.
Thank
you,
director,
maretti
and
director
pirillo.
Moving
on
to
questions
or
comments
from
council
members,
I'm
going
to
go
to
either
councilman
jermaine
or
vargas
first,
because
they
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
yesterday
if
they
have
anything
to
to
say
or
add.
H
Many
of
the
questions
that
I
actually
or
I
was
going
to
ask
were
eventually
asked
yesterday
evening,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
the
I'm
going
based
on
the
fact
that
the
gentleman
that's
come
before
us
and
and
the
candidate
you
know
I
I
think
you
have
a
quite
intensive
and
strong
resume,
of
course,
with
with
with
experience
in
the
sense
of
what
you've
done
in
those
roles.
H
While
I
understand
you
took
math
during
grad
school
or
accounting,
as
you
had
noted
yesterday,
I
took
obviously
classes
as
well,
while
I
was
in
college
whether
it
was
art
or
history,
but
I'm
not
an
art
teacher.
Nor
am
I
a
history
teacher
or
a
historian
working
in
that
capacity,
and-
and
so
I
will
be
voting
against
this
sorry
I'll-
be
for
against
your
position
this
evening
in
terms
of
the
the
finance
committee.
Sorry,
the
finance
director,
only
because
I
think
that
this
is
not.
H
This
is
not
a
position
that
I
actually
feel
that
you
would
be
able
to
be
a
strong
suit
for
the
city
and
it's
and
by
all
means
this
is
absolutely
not
personal,
nor
is
it
even
political
is
what
I
think
is
best
what
my
constituents
is
best
as
far
as
making
sure
that
the
city
has
no
structural
deficit,
that
we
continue
to
be
a
financially
well
established
city
moving
forward,
and
so
I
understand
you
were
a
town
manager
and
you
probably
had
a
few
members
working
for
you
in
collaborating
and
putting
together
a
a
budget,
but
I
I
think
that
if
you
were
coming,
perhaps
even
as
chief
of
staff,
I
would
probably
say
by
all
means,
but
as
a
finance
director,
I
just
don't
see
this.
H
This
resume
being
positioned
in
a
finance
role
for
the
city.
We
have
a
lot
at
stake.
We
have
federal
dollars
coming
in
obviously
we're
in
budget
season
and
so
hearing
you
yesterday
and
your
your
responses
to
the
questions
that
were
being
asked
in
my
right
mind.
I
would
not
be
able
to
vote
on
this
advice
and
consent
this
evening.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
council
president.
I
all
most
of
my
questions
were
answered
yesterday
when
my
colleague
asked
and
in
your
response,
mr
zaniski,
but
I
would
like
to
wait
with
this
question.
I
I
have
never
held
the
position
of
finance
director
for
municipality.
I
managed
a
small
business
and
handled
the
finances
in
that.
I'm.
G
J
I
I
I
argue
that
my
collaboration
skills
are
excellent,
that
I
work
well
with
people
and
in
fact,
worked
with
a
finance
director
in
south
kingstown
to
great
effect
to
to
a
very
good
outcomes
with
the
city's
budget
and
very
good
outcomes
with
the
general
state
of
finance,
very
good
outcomes.
With
regard
to
the
information
technology
program
that
was
within
that
department
and
good
outcomes
with
regard
to
contracting.
I
One
of
the
things
that
that
I
do
think
is
important
to
recognize
is
that
in
south
kingstown
I
didn't
have
a
comptroller
mike
igo
was
the
equivalent
that
that
position
is
the
equivalent
of
what
the
finance
director
did
in
south
kingstown.
So
I
had
to
work
with
the
finance
director
on
a
daily
basis
and
did
so
enthusiastically.
G
How
do
you
see
yourself
with
when
you
have
some
difficulty
or
hard
conversation,
and
you
want
a
way
I
will
say
always
I
so
I?
How
do
you
see
yourself
in
the
next
feature?
You
have
some
disagreement
with
the
council
and
then
you're
gonna
just
resign
again.
I
I
When
a
town
council
majority
no
longer
believes
that
its
philosophy,
its
view
of
the
world
meshes
or
is
consistent
with
the
view
of
the
world
that
the
manager
has
that's
an
irreconcilable
difference
and
they
have
the
right
to
ask
for
they
have
to
do
it
under
you
know
the
terms
of
a
contract.
They
have
to
follow
the
law.
I
They
have
the
right
to
ask
for
a
manager
to
to
they
have
the
right
to
fire
a
manager.
They
have
the
right
to
simply
discharge
a
manager
if
they
have
cause
in
in
most
systems
in
most
municipal
governments.
If
they
have
cause,
they
do
so,
but
even
if
they
don't
have
cause
and
there's
a
a
friction
among
a
majority
of
a
council
and
the
manager,
it's
not
good
for
a
community
for
that
to
continue.
I
G
G
Says
change
in
council
so
that's
mean
you
have
a
type
of
council.
You
could
work
with.
That's
how
I
interpret
it.
So
so,
as
a
person
who
has
skill
to
collaborate,
teamwork,
you
should
be
able
to
work
with
any
council
right.
So
when
you
say
for
a
change
of
counsel,
this
was
a
problem
for
me
because
whoever
has
an
experiences
skills.
You
should
be
able
to
work
with
everybody.
G
So
change
of
counsel,
that's
language
resign
because
of
a
change
in
counsel.
This
is
speak
to
me,
so
you
have
a
really
impressive
resume
for
any
other
position
in
my
collection
as
a
policy
analyst,
okay,
you
have
background
and
politicals
very
impressive,
really
very
impressive
with
all
due
respect,
but
I
don't
feel
comfortable
to
vote
for
you
as
a
finance
lawyer.
I
I
I
would
like
to
just
address
your
your
concern
about
the
need
of
a
public
servant
to
be
able
to
work
with
anybody.
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
be
able
to
work
with
with
each
other.
We
all
know
I've
been
a
city
councilor.
I
I've
sat
in
your
chair
and
we
all
know
that.
That's
just
not
the
reality.
Conflicts
arise
in
in
groups
and
there
are
conflicts
that
even
cause
people
to
switch
parties,
which
is
a
pretty
big.
A
pretty
big
thing
to
happen.
I
Conflicts
arise
and
the
question
for
a
manager
and
a
town
council
in
the
manager
council
form
is:
are
these
tensions
such
that
we
are
better,
that
the
community
is
better
off
as
a
manager?
My
job
really
is,
or
was
to
make
sure
that
I
was
advancing
the
interests
of
the
community
and
when
I
could
no
longer
do
so
effectively
because
of
a
change
in
philosophy
of
people
who
who
wanted
a
different
set
of
outcomes
than
than
I
thought
were
appropriate.
I
My
professional
judgment-
and
we
talked
about
this
last
night-
was
that
the
budget
structures
were
going
to
do
detriment
and
that
I'd
advanced
a
budget
based
on
my
best
professional
judgment
in
consultation
with,
in
this
case
the
superintendent
and
the
finance
director,
and
that
wasn't
something
that
the
philosophy
of
a
majority
of
the
council,
or
actually
it
turns
out
that
that
was
a
philosophy
that
a
majority
of
the
council
was
okay
with.
But
a
critical
element
of
the
council
was
not
okay
with
it
that
that
was
the
setup
for
an
irreconcilable
difference
of
opinions.
I
There
are
places
where
that
would
not
have
been
an
issue
had
I
been
at
south
kingstown
for
10
or
15
years
and
had
built
up
a
rapport
across
the
community.
Maybe
that
would
not
have
been
an
issue.
I
hadn't
been
there
that
long.
I
was
the
new
guy
who
was
now
propagating
a
philosophy,
a
position
that
a
significant
portion
of
the
council
simply
couldn't
get
behind,
and
that
was
going
to
be
a
continuing
source
of
tension.
I
But
your
your
general
point
that
you
have
to
make
every
effort
to
work
with
people
is
absolutely
correct,
and
I
will
say
this:
I
had
done
everything
I
thought
I
could
do
short
of
changing
what
I
thought.
My
what
I
in
my
professional
judgment,
thought
was
the
best
recommendation
for
a
budget.
I
didn't
decide
what
the
budget
was.
I
made
a
recommendation
to
the
budget.
It
was
the
recommendation
that
that
was
the
source
of
of
tension,
and
I,
I
think
you're
right
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
work
with
people
is
extremely
important.
G
A
A
K
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
zarnowski.
I
was
looking
further
into
your
resume
and
I'm
a
little
bit
interested
in
your
six
sigma
approach
to
if
you
bring
that
into
your
government
approach
as
well,
and
how
you
would
use
that
as
a
finance
director
sure.
I
So
I
guess
the
the
important
thing
about
six
sigma
is
as
a
philosophy
and
actually
I've
pursued
two
different
approaches
throughout
my
career,
one
is
agile
management
and
the
other
is
sort
of
six
sigma,
which
is
all
about
continuous
improvement,
and
you
know
for
me
one
of
the
the
most
important
exercises
for
a
manager.
A
new
manager
in
any
position
to
go
through
is
to
sort
of
do
a
comprehensive
review
of
the
entire
system.
I
So
if
we
sort
of
think
about
how
how
you
approach
this
job
in
this
community
at
this
point
in
time,
what
what
I
think
so
let
me
take
this
differently.
Let
me
try
it
this
way.
If
we,
if
I
ask
the
question,
how
would
I
come
at
this
on
day?
One?
What's
the
first
thing
I
do
walking
in
the
door?
The
first
thing
you
do
with
as
a
finance
director
is
you
make
sure
you
understand
where
all
your
money
is
you're
going
to
understand
the
accounts
and
the
controls
that
are
in
place
for
those
accounts.
I
So
if
you
do
what
former
boss
of
mine
used
to
call
it
a
top
to
bottom
review,
which
I'd
prefer
to
call
a
sort
of
comprehensive
concentric
review?
But
if
you
think
about
doing
a
top
to
bottom
review
or
a
concentric
review,
you
go
out
and
you
talk
to
the
custodial
institutions
that
hold
our
money
that
hold
our
our
funds.
And
you
talk
to
them
about
what
issues
they've
seen.
Have
there
been
any
any
historic
challenges
in
working
with
the
the
city
of
cranston?
I
Are
there
any
issues
that
have
arisen
in
the
past
understanding
the
history,
understanding
where
our
money
is
and
what
the
handling
of
the
money
from
our
custodians
perspective
has
been?
I
It's
then
coming
inside
the
organization
and
asking
the
question:
who
has
access
to
these
accounts
and
why
and
reviewing
whether
or
not
we've
got
the
right
number
or
the
right
reasons
for
folks
to
have
access
to
those
accounts.
Once
you
know
where
the
money
is
once
you've
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
the
managers
of
those
monies
and
once
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
inside
and
figure
out
what
the
controls
are
to
ensure
that
those
monies
are
safeguarded,
then
the
next
question
is
okay.
I
How
do
we
want
to
manage
our
program
going
forward
and
again?
The
top
to
bottom
review
is
a
question
of
them
talking
to
division,
heads
within
the
finance
department,
understanding
what
the
challenges
are
and
making
sure
that
everybody
every
division
head
knows
that
they
can
come
to
you
with
bad
news.
Come
to
the
finance
director
with
bad
news,
come
to
the
finance
director
with
problems.
I
We
do
not
want
an
environment
where
people
feel
that
they
cannot
ask
questions
or
raise
concerns.
I
want
folks
to
know
that
they
can
raise
their
concerns
because
I'm
going
to
be
asking
questions,
I'm
going
to
be
asking
probably
more
questions
than
someone
who
was
a
practicing
accountant
would
be
asking,
and
I'm
not
going
to
ask
those
questions
and
say
I
assume
I
know
the
next
answer.
I'm
going
to
ask
those
questions
right
down
to
the
root
of
any
any
inquiry
that
I
might
have
to
make.
I
So
it's
it's
a
matter
of
talking
to
the
division,
heads
understanding,
every
process,
understanding
every
procedure
that
they're
engaged
in
I've
already
had
a
chance
to
review.
What
used
to
be
the
cafe.
It's
now
the
annual
comprehensive
fiscal
report.
I've
had
a
chance
to
review
it
and
I
have
a
pretty
good
handle
on
the
broad
parameters
of
cranston's
finances,
but
I
want
to
know
who's
responsible
for
handling
every
ledger
entry.
I
want
to
know
that,
and
I
want
to
talk
to
every
department
employee,
about
how
they're
doing
that.
I
What's
the
internal
auditor
doing
what
are
the
challenges
and
upper
and
and
issues
that
the
internal
auditor
has
seen
over
the
years?
What
are
what
are
the
issues
she
sees
going
forward
into
the
future
understand
inside
the
department?
Once
you
understand
inside
the
department
right
down
to
bare
metal,
then
the
next
question
is
okay:
what's
the
relationship
between
the
finance
department
and
the
other
departments
in
the
city?
What
are
their
challenges
in
dealing
with
the
finance
department?
What
are
their
concerns?
What
are
their
suggestions?
I
What
can
we
do
to
be
a
service
provider
to
other
departments,
including
the
school
department?
Importantly,
how
can
we
build
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
school
business
official
and
the
and
the
school
superintendent,
because
having
a
good
relationship
resolves
problems
resolves
conflicts,
it
resolves
the
sort
of
conflicts
that
arise
when
you
don't
have
those
relationships.
When
someone
new
comes
in
and
doesn't
you
know,
have
those
established
relationships,
it's
not
easy.
So
it's
very
important.
I
think,
to
make
sure
that
you're
doing
that
from
day
one
and
then
the
question
is
okay.
I
Now
we
turn
to
the
work
and
the
biggest
piece
of
work
that
the
finance
department
does.
Is
the
budget-
and
I
mentioned
yesterday
that
I
thought
that
the
south
kingstown
budget
was
a
tremendous
example
because
it
uses
a
program
planning
budget.
It's
an
incredibly
useful
tool.
You
define
your
program
for
the
long
term,
not
on
an
annual
basis,
you're,
not
trying
to
figure
out
what
you're
going
to
do
for
one
year,
you're
trying
to
figure
out
what
you're
going
to
do
for
a
long
period
of
time.
I
I
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
that
you
know
I
know
might
be
a
tension
in
a
city
where
you've
got
a
strong
mayor
and
you've
got
a
council
sort
of
looking
at
the
mayor's
work
product
is
who's
the
finance
you
know
director
work
for,
and
I
the
answer
is
legally.
The
finance
director
is
working
at
the
suffrage
of
the
mayor,
but
I
want
this
council
to
know
that
if
I
am
appointed
finance
director,
I
will
work
with
the
council
as
well,
because
there
is
no
mud,
no
no
monopoly
on
good
ideas.
C
And
thank
you
for
that
thorough
explanation.
This
budget
is
already
done,
though,
so,
if
you
were
appointed,
it
is
how
it
is.
Would
you
have
the
ability
and
the
confidence
that
you
could
go
through
this
and
help
us
cut
it
now.
I
So
I've
spoken
to
the
mayor-
and
I
don't
think
he's
happy
about
my
my
position
here,
but
what
I've
told
the
mayor
is.
I'm
gonna
give
my
best
professional
judgment
and
I'm
gonna
share
the
information
that
people
ask
for
every
time.
I'm
asked
that
is
a
public
servant's
duty,
I'm
not
as
as
a
finance
director,
I'm
not
the
mayor's
person
to
just
you
know,
push
you
know
the
mayor's
agenda
now.
I
Let
me
be
clear
about
that
for
a
second,
because
this
is
a
complex
set
of
relationships
when
a
mayor
comes
to
a
finance
director
and
says
this
is
these
are
my
priorities.
This
is
my
program.
This
is
my
10-year
vision
of
where
I
want
to
be,
and
these
are
the
objectives
that
I
think
we
need
to
achieve
in
the
short
term.
Can
you
help
me
build
a
budget
to
do
that?
The
answer
is
yes,
of
course,
I
work
for
the
director
works
for
the
mayor
and
that's
that's
an
objective.
That's
that's!
That's!
I
That
having
been
said
when
a
council
then
asks
why
is
this
built
the
way
it's
built?
My
answer
is
going
to
be
a
forthright
explanation
of
why
it's
built
when
I'm
asked
the
question.
What
assumptions
have
you
built
into
this?
I'm
going
to
tell
you
what
those
assumptions
are:
I'm
not
going
to
hide
the
ball
from
anybody,
because
it
doesn't
work
systems
that
have
people
hiding
the
ball
end
up
in
a
bad
place.
I
I'm
not
going
to
do
that.
So
to
answer
your
question
very
directly,
if
I
am
appointed
finance
director
this
budget,
which
is
presented,
you
guys
know
it
can
be
approved.
The
mayor
knows
it
can
be
improved,
there's
nothing
that
is
perfect
and
I
will
work
with
the
council
to
make
sure
that
we
find
those
opportunities
and
where
the
changes
can
be
made
to
at
this
point,
receive
a
majority
vote
of
the
council
I'll
help.
C
Thank
you
and
to
a
solicitor
or
to
our
attorney.
I
just
want
some
clarification
because
I
too
walked
into
the
meeting
yesterday
concerned
about
mr
zarneski,
not
being
a
cpa,
because
that's
the
first
thing
I
would
think
of,
but
is
it
there's
no
language
in
the
charter?
To
my
understanding
that
says,
he
needs
to
be
a
cpa.
That's
not
the
language!
Correct!.
C
Okay,
so
we
the
writing's
on
the
wall
here,
but
I'm
just
going
to
say
something
we
can't
one
day
say
you
know
we
have
to
follow
the
charter.
We
can't
just
be
making
you
know
new
decisions
about.
You
know,
ward
lines,
that
when
the
charter
says
this,
we
can't
change
the
laws
today.
If
we
want
in
the
future
the
finance
director
to
have
to
have
a
cpa,
then
we
can.
We
can
do
it
a
charter
amendment
and
that
can
be
part
of
it,
but
we
have
to
go
by
what
we
have
today.
C
So
I
think
that
I
hope
that
everyone
could
be
a
little
bit
more
open-minded
and
realize
that
we're
picking
a
piece
of
something
that
doesn't
exist.
It's
not
a
requirement,
a
cpa.
This
is
higher
than
a
cpa.
This
is
a
strategist,
someone,
who's
doing
planning
long-term
planning
creatively
using
technology.
We
haven't
had
that
in
a
lot
of
positions.
We've
had
people
in
positions
for
a
really
long
time
who
don't
change,
who
just
move
numbers
from
box
to
box,
and
you
know
if
nothing
changes,
nothing
changes,
so
I
will
be
voting
to
to
approve.
C
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
rinzuli,
I'm
I'm
going
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity
to
speak
one
more
time
just
so
that
way
we
can
move
on,
because
I
know
we
can
see
it.
We
have
people
here
for
budget
hearings,
anybody
else
having
to
say
council,
member
mourinho
just.
K
You
I'll
be
brief.
One
thing
I
share
with
the
administration
is
that
this
nominee
vote
keeps
kept
me
up
at
night
as
well,
but
for
a
different
reason.
Our
charter
doesn't
ask
doesn't
say,
cpa
chief
fiscal
officer,
the
nominee
before
us
has
never
served
as
a
fiscal
officer
in
a
municipal
capacity
or
a
private
capacity.
K
A
G
Thank
you,
council
president.
I
have
mr
zaneski
said
something
earlier
and
when
counsel,
when
zuli
councilwoman
wenzel
asked
him
another
question
and
he
changed.
G
G
First
of
all,
when
I
asked
you
about
your
skill
collaboration
teamwork,
you
said
you
clearly
said
you
don't
work
for
the
council.
You
will
work
for
the
mayor,
that's
why
you
said
and
then,
when
council
wentzole
asked
the
question
how
we
will
see
how
the
change
will
make
to
this
current
budget,
and
you
said
now-
oh,
I
am
not
working
like
I'm
not
doing
exactly
what
the
mayor
will
say
to
do.
I
will
work
so
I
feel
like
there
is
a
discrepancy
here.
G
So
it's
whether
you
stand
or
you
work
for
the
mayor
or
you
work
for
the
council
and
you
say
clearly:
no,
so
if
I'm
in
finance
do
it
I'm
not
working
for
the
council,
I'm
working
for
the
mayor
and
now
when
you
have
another
question
and
yes,
you
are
like.
So
that's
another
point
for
me
to
really
not
vote
for
you,
so
I
don't
know
where
you
stand
right
now.
So
if,
if.
A
M
Thank
you,
council
president,
without
going
back
through
the
minutes,
I
don't
believe
I've
ever
voted
against
in
now
my
second
term
any
any
mayoral
appointment,
because
I
I
do
believe
that
the
mayor
should
have
the
people
around
them
that
they.
L
M
M
I
can't
in
good
conscious
I
I
don't
think
that
resume
fits
for
this
position.
If
you
were
here
tonight
for
chief
of
staff,
director
of
administration
director
of
policy,
I
would
be
unquestionably
in
voting
in
favor,
but
for
this
position
I
just
I
can't
support
it,
and
I
I
don't
come
to
this
decision
lightly.
M
C
I
just
have
a
question:
I
don't
know,
maybe
to
you
or
a
solicitor
or
direction
ready.
Do
we
have?
How
long
can
we
go
without
a
finance
director?
Is
that
anywhere
by
law
that
we
have
to
have
a
finance
director
at
a
certain
who
is
going
to
manage
the
money
if
it
takes
six
more
months?
I'm
just
curious,
it
might
be.
A
We're
under
this
council
member
discussion
right
now
direct
any
other
comments
from
council
members
that
haven't
spoke
yet.
J
L
A
N
D
A
C
N
A
A
D
C
O
C
Raise
applicable
to
whoever
would
come
next,
because
if
we
and
I'm
just
putting
this
out
there,
even
if
we
use
an
executive
search
firm
to
find
the
best
and
brightest
human
from
across
the
country,
we're
going
to
spend
more
money.
Looking
for
the
person
like
we'll
spend
half
as
much
money
as
we
pay
the
person.
C
C
A
Thank
you
and
the
answer
question
I
this
is
to
the
position,
not
the
person
so
under
the
discussion,
councilmember
donaghy.
M
I'm
actually
contemplating
withdrawing
the
motion,
and
my
rationale
behind
it
is
my
understanding
of
past
council
rules
is
that
if
something
is
brought
up
more
than
once
or
if
something
is
denied,
it
cannot
be
brought
up
again
in
the
same
term,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
were
to
deny
this
tonight,
I
wouldn't
want
it
to
prohibit
frustration
from
leveraging
a
potential
salary
fluctuation
for
any
new
candidate.
So
I
don't,
I
don't
want
to
tie
their
hands
off
the
bat
in
that
regard.
A
L
Obviously,
whatever
you
set
is
the
salary
for
the
finance
director
as
a
policy
decision,
certainly
a
budget
decision.
But
procedurally,
if
you
disapprove
of
this
ordinance,
you
are
correct.
You've
taken
it
up
during
the
session
and
that's
it.
If
you
withdraw
your
motion
and
you
were
to
table,
for
example,
this
ordinance
until
such
time
as
you
may
be
done
with
the
budget
or
as
part
of
the
budget,
you
may
think
otherwise,
and
you
know,
bring
it
off
the
table
and
perhaps
even
augment
that
amount.
L
M
Thank
you.
My
intention,
for
both
the
my
my
intention
in
this
motion
is
was
was
not
to
tie
the
hands
of
the
administration
or
or
block
a
future
finance
director
nomination
for
salary
negotiations.
So
I
will
withdraw
my
motion
to
deny.
A
K
The
administration
could
withdraw
this
ordinance
this
evening,
which
would
not
then
prejudice
them
from
resurrecting
the
salary.
The
specific
ordinance
again
correct.
A
K
And
they
have
not
chosen
to
do
that.
As
of
as
of
now
correct,
all.
A
E
No,
we
don't
want
to
withdraw
it.
We
think
it's
appropriate.
We
are
not
able
to
find
someone
qualified,
which
one
quite
uncertain
now
as
to
what
qualifications
to
find,
but
I
think
we
need
to
keep
raise
the
threshold
in
order
to
recruit
for
this
position,
because
it's
proven
for
over
a
year,
it's
not
competitive.
E
A
A
Definitely
three
months:
we
we
do
three
months
yeah
three
days.
We
usually
do
three
months
at
the
council
level
and
at
that
point
we
can
either
re-table
it
or
it
falls
off
the
table
so
we'll
just
keep
it
it'll
be
listed
on
the
docket
too.
I
believe,
as
we
go
on
for
the
next
three
months,
is
that
correct,
madam
madam
clerk
it'll
be
listed
on
the
docket,
so
we'll
be
able
to
see
it
at
council
meetings.
If
you
wanted
to
remove
it
from
the
table
and
take
action
council,
member
jeremy.
A
If
we
vote,
if
we
vote
to
deny
it,
they
cannot
be
brought
back
for
this
session
so
for
the
next.
You
know
until
january,
one
when
the
new
council
comes
in
this
couldn't
be
brought
back.
If
we
table
it,
we
have
the
option
to
take
it
off
the
table
and
hear
it
again.
So
it
gives
the
council
flexibility
and
the
mayor
the
mayor's
office.
A
A
G
Is
that
a
way
to
proactively
prepare
for
the
next
finance
is
that
this
resolution
a
way
to
proactively
prepare
for
the
next
final
director.
E
G
You
can
say
this
is
what
you
can
offer
for
wherever
we
want
to
yeah
so.
E
A
Yeah
and
tabling
isn't
passing
it's
basically
continuing.
It
gives
us
the
flexibility
to
bring
it
back
in
the
future
if
we
need
it
to
be.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
see
no
further
discussion.
Madam
clerk,
please
take
the
role
on
tabling
on
the
motion
to
table
this
ordinance.
B
A
A
Yes
I'll
entertain,
I
see
no
further
business.
Before
I
succeed,
they
obtain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
K
E
A
The
meeting
is
recorded
thanks
so
much.
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
are
adjourned.
Thank
you,
10
minute
recess,
until
budget
hearing,
so
everybody
can
use
the
restroom.
D
B
D
Okay,
first
department
up
is
the
finance
department.
D
We
welcome
you
tonight
and
we
we
look
forward
to
hearing
your
budget
recommendations.
Thank
you.
Q
Department
budget
is
on
page
18
of
the
the
proposed
budget.
Sorry.
R
Ms
diego,
do
you
want
me
to
so?
Currently,
the
revenue
actual,
which
is
just
interest,
is
running
at
about
53
percent.
R
R
And
the
expenditures
for
the
department
is
currently
running
at
56
percent,
but
I
would
believe
that's
a
little
low,
miss
igo
only
due
to
the
fact
that
contributions
to
the
claims
are
done
sporadically
and
if.
R
A
D
N
C
O
C
So
this
might
not
be
appropriate
for
the
budget
meeting
so
under
the
finance
department.
We
do
expect
more
people.
O
N
R
Just
a
point
of
information
currently
in
the
finance,
the
director's
position
in
this
budget
is
budgeted
at
139,
considering
everything
else
that
just
transpired.
H
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
so
I
think,
with
the
audited
said,
probably
just
answered
one
of
my
questions
and
then
I
would
obviously
assume
that
that
extra
35
299
under
the
salary
schedule
is
the
dollar
amount
that's
being
allocated.
If,
in
fact,
it
was
an
ordinance
proposed
passes
to
increase
for
a
finance
director.
Is
that
the
what's
the
I'm
assuming.
H
Thank
you.
The
other
question
that
I
have
on
there
was
on
the
was
it
give
me
one.
Second,
I
think
it's
on
the
other
side.
Yes,
the
bank
charges.
Q
Yes,
we
have
a
monthly
fee
that
we
get
from
brinks
to
deliver
our
deposits
every
day
to
the
citizens
banking
site.
So
there's
a
monthly
charge
that
we
received.
H
So
have
we
we
haven't
used
any
of
it
yet
so
when
do
we
get
billed
for
it.
Q
I
don't
know
councilwoman,
I'm
not
sure
why
it's
showing
zero.
I
don't
know
if
it
got
included
with
the
departmental
expenses
rather
than
the
banking
charges.
I
have
to
look
into
that.
H
Yeah,
sir
yeah,
if
you
don't
mind
mike,
that
would
be
great,
because
I
know
that
there
was.
H
An
extra
1200
is
allocated
in
the
budget
for
that
yeah
and
if
we
haven't
even
exhausted
a
penny
out
of
it
or
you
know-
and
this
is
for
the
third
quarter-
I'm
just
wondering:
if
are
we
really
going
to
use
a
full
13
hundred
or
or
so
so?
Thank
you
actually,
when
you
do,
do
you
mind
there
ending
it
to
the
clerk?
So
then
that
way
we
all
have
it.
Thank
you.
O
D
Q
Q
Q
You
work
on
the
both
the
audit
and
the
budget,
and
then
we
take
a
few
days
off
in
between
all
that.
Q
Our
budget
is
going
up
primarily
just
due
to
the
three
percent:
contractual
raids
of
the
bargaining
unit.
R
Yes,
currently,
the
expenditures
are
running
at
about
77.65,
which
is
running
just
about
on
budget.
O
O
D
Okay
and
we're
looking
at
a
submitted
number
of
six
seventeen
one
one,
four
yeah
but
attributes
to
the
fifty
thousand
dollar
increase
the.
Q
True,
the
two
drivers
are
the
twenty
six
thousand
dollar
increase
in
salaries,
which
is
based
on
the
the
contractual
three
percent
plus
two
of
the
employees
within
the
department
are
receiving
steps
which
are
contractual
as
well.
The
other
increase
majority
of
it
is
hospitalization,
as
we
planned
this
budget
out.
Q
We
budgeted
10
increase
because
of
the
deficits
we've
been
accumulating
over
the
past
several
years,
so
we
increased
hospitalization
in
all
departments
by
ten
percent.
D
C
The
who
who
is
getting
a
differential,
can
you
tell,
I
don't
know.
Q
There's
two
employees
within
my
office
that
receive
differentials
the
payroll
clerk
receives
differential
for
doing
personnel
work
and
the
accounts
payable
clerk
receives
differential
for
doing
work
in
the
treasurer's.
O
R
Point
of
information,
any
of
the
con
contractual
play
increases
that
are
due
to
the
the
contracts
will
also
you'll,
see
just
to
make
it
easier.
You'll
see
the
payroll
taxes
increase,
the
health
benefit
increase
and
the
pension
increase.
So
it's
a
it's
just
a
full
package.
So
if
there's
a
contractual
increase,
these
other
expenses
will
go
up
with
it.
Also.
D
Any
other
questions
I'm
going
to
ask
you
a
question:
are
any
of
these
other
items
here
on
the
finance
department
that
you're
responsible
for
before
we
asked
mr
marchese
to
come
up
for
contracts
and
purchasing.
Q
No
I'm
just
here
in
the
finance
director's
capacity
as
he's
no
longer
with
us.
S
Contracts
and
purchasing
we
process
all
the
purchase
orders
for
the
city
approvals.
S
I
handle
all
the
purchasing
for
all
the
26
departments
for
the
city
and
also
I
some
of
the
quasi
agencies
if
they
need
any
help
with
anything
like
some
of
the
little
ones.
I
take
care
of
too.
A
Vice
president
ferry,
mr
marchese,
thank
you
for
being
here.
I
frequent
the
building,
sometimes
during
the
day
and
they're,
like
a
ping-pong
ball
in
and
out
of,
the
offices
seemed
like
a
very
busy
guy.
How
many
people
work
in
your
department.
A
So
it
seems
to
me
you
have
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
responsibility
that
keeps
you
pretty
busy.
Okay.
Well,
thank
you
for
all.
You
do.
S
A
That's
right,
you
did
before
tom
came
in
to
help
us
out
with
the
the
day-to-day
audio
visual
mark
was
the
point
guy
to
make
sure
that
we
had
cameras
and
everything
was
working
in
here
and
worked
with
the
vendors
to
make
sure
that
we
were
all
set,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
mark.
R
Yeah
just
the
point
of
information,
the
current
expenditures
are
running
about
76.58,
which
is
just
about
on
point.
There
is
a
a
shortfall,
mr
marchese,
on
the
scrap
sales.
If
you
want
to
just
fill
them
in,
it
seems
that
it's
we'll
be
going.
S
Out
to
bid
for
that
usually
go
to
bid
for
that
mid
may
early
june
and
we
try
and
get
all
that
stuff
done.
I
I
deal
with
the
the
fleet
manager
gerard
scotty,
and
we
do
that.
We
wait
towards
the
end,
so
all
the
stuff
that's
unusable
for
the
city,
the
vehicles
and
equipment.
We
wait
till
the
end,
so
we
can
put
everything
together
and
we
should
hit
our
mark
this
year
again.
S
Don't
there's
no
time
it's
just
the
old,
the
older
trucks
that
we
put
out
of
use,
and
sometimes
they
still
run
so
we
still
get
some
get
some
decent
scrap
money
for
them.
K
K
S
S
J
S
I've
only
had
like
one
scrap
of
a
hundred
dollar
gaming
box
from
the
fire
department.
So
far
I
I'll
go
out
like
you
know
the
middle
of
may,
and
that's
like
the
reason
you
do
it
once.
S
H
S
A
surplus-
actually,
I
usually
receive
a
check
once
a
year
from
a
supplier
from
the
wb
mason
and
I'll
put
that
into
my
expense.
H
Okay,
so
then
that
4
900,
that
difference
is
what
came
from
mason
and
then
you
just
you,
apply
it
to
that
specific
department,
though
not
any
of
the
other
ones
right,
because
they.
S
Have
to
do
it
that
goes
into
one,
and
then
I
help
supplies
other
departments
that
need
some
help
with
some
stuff.
If
not,
it
will
just
stay
in
my
account
and
leave
a
certain
general
fund.
H
Okay,
so
is
it
fair
to
say
that
that
two
thousand
dollars
allocated
right
now
is
actually
is,
would
be
sufficient,
then,
because
you
would
get
this
payment
once?
Is
it
once
a
year,
probably
yeah.
B
O
H
C
Mr
marchese,
I
notice
that
you
there
is
a
vacant
position,
a
senior
buyer,
I'm
just
curious
what
that,
if
you
feel
you
need
that
person
in
your
office
what
they
would
do
exactly
and
if
you
know
what
a
step
one
salary
is.
Yes,.
S
S
I
wanted
a
senior
buyer,
but
the
administration
came
up
with
a
purchasing
clerk.
Instead,
as
a
grade
15.,
I
would
like
a
senior
buyer.
That
was
my
on
my
wish
list
to
have
like
a
number
two
to
do
all
purchasing
functions,
to
help
me
out
with
the
bids
and
the
meetings
which
I
do
get
help
from
the
city
clerk.
I
mean
the
purchasing
clerk,
but
just
a
little
bit
more
to
pass
on
some
of
the
other
duties
that
I
do.
It
would
be
beneficial
to
the
department.
S
S
C
D
Anyone
else,
mr
marchese,
just
I
just
wanted
to
point
something
out-
your
2021
actual
was
211
078,
correct,
yes,
and
your
projected
2023
is
230
634,
which
is
only
a
difference
of
nineteen
thousand
dollars.
Correct
you
don't
see.
Do
you
see
anywhere
in
your
budget
where
that
19
000
could
be
cut
out?
I
I
don't
see
it
it's
mostly
salaries.
D
D
Mr
capuano,
if
you
you
are
online,
you,
you
will
be
allowed
to
talk.
If
anyone
has
a
question,
are
you
there.
D
V
D
Q
I'll
go
the
the
city
court
city
collector,
basically
they're
in
charge
of
collecting
all
the
taxes
for
the
city,
including
sewer
tax
property,
tax
for
residential
and
commercial
properties,
tangible
tax
and
motor
vehicle
tax
they're,
also
in
charge
of
taking
in
all
the
deposits
from
the
different
departments,
usually
on
at
least
a
day
well
on
a
daily
or
a
weekly
basis,
depending
on
the
revenues
that
come
into
departments
those
those
deposits
are
brought
over
the
to
the
treasurer's
office
and
deposited
into
our
accounts
at
citizens,
bank
they're
also
in
charge
of
analyzing
our
outstanding
taxes
and
at
the
end
of
the
year,
they
do
what
they
call
a
tax
sale.
Q
So,
if
anyone's
been
delinquent,
they'll
send
multiple
notices
of
the
delinquency
and,
if
they're,
if
they
have
don't
bring
the
outstanding
invoices
current,
their
property
is
placed
in
tax
sale.
Where
somebody
has
the
opportunity
to
purchase
that
and
then
they
need
to
redeem
it
back.
If
you
won't
choose
with
that,
they,
as
I
said
they
send
out
delinquency,
notices,
they're
called
dunning
notices
and
our
collection
rates
have
been
outstanding
over
the
past
few
years.
We're
in
the
high
90s.
J
Q
We've
also
implemented
several
steps
to
to
improve
the
the
collection
process,
especially
during
the
pandemic.
We
have
an
online
build
pay
system.
Now
it's
called
invoice
cloud
and
many
people
during
the
pandemic,
since
they
couldn't
come
into
city
hall.
We
were
utilizing
this
feature
so
that
our
collections
stayed
steady.
We
didn't
really
see
a
decline
during
the
pandemic
and
now
people
are
used
to
using
it
there's
a
minimal
charge.
If
you
want
to
pay
on
on
the
invoice
cloud,
I
think
it's
like
60
cents
or
something
like
that.
Q
So
it's
really
been
beneficial
to
to
the
department
and
the
city,
because
you
know
we
used
to
have
lines
all
the
way
down
the
hall.
I
don't
know
if
anyone's
ever
came
in
in
the
past
during
tax
collections
on
the
quarter,
you
would
have
a
line
from
one
end
of
the
hall
to
the
other,
and
now
that
that's
all
dissipated
because
of
the
use
of
this
online
feature,
we
also
have
a
dropbox
collection,
which
is
something
that
we
we
use
with
citizens
banks.
Q
So
if,
if
you're,
not
computer
savvy,
you
can
also
just
drop
it
into
the
mail,
it
goes
to
citizens
what
they
call
lock
box.
They
send
us
a
report
of
how
much
they
collected
and
a
tape
so
that
we
just
upload
the
tape
into
or
our
file.
Now
it's
not
a
tape,
no
longer
a
file
to
decrement
our
outstanding
taxes.
U
And
mike
I
can
just
further
that
a
little
bit
regarding
the
lockbox
rocks
and
invoice
cloud
back
in
2016-17
when
I
brought
in
voice
cloud
in
and
we
implemented
this.
You
know
I
feel
like
it's.
It's
been
such
a
help
for
the
city
for
the
taxpayers
and
a
win-win
across
the
board.
Every
morning
we
get
these
files.
You
know
99.9
percent
of
time,
there's
no
issue
with
these
files.
U
We
I
I
download
these
files
they're
implemented
through
everybody's
account
and
obviously
that
the
girls
and
tax
collection
do
a
wonderful
job
with
this
when
the
system
was
imposed.
So
it's
been
a
lot
of
work
over
the
last
three
years,
but
it's
it's.
It's
done
wonders
for
the
city,
for
the
collection
rate
and
for
the
taxpayers.
A
I
just
like
to
follow
up
with
what
mr
capuano
just
said.
I
was
on
the
council
when
the
invoice
cloud
came
up
and
I
remember
those
lines
in
the
hallway
that
we
used
to
get
people
wanting
to
come,
pay
their
taxes,
and
I
think
you
can
probably
see
that
as
a
reflection
in
the
overtime
on
line
one
zero
one,
you
can
kind
of
see
in
2017
2018,
I'm
going
to
assume
that
that
overtime
was
to
process
payments.
U
U
You
know
the
girls
used
to
have
to
stay
many
hours
of
the
night
with
thousands
of
of
pieces
of
mail,
one
being
online
checks.
Online
checks
were
a
huge
problem
to
the
city.
We
would
probably
get
10
000
per
quarter
that
we
literally
had
to
make
a
copy
of,
and
then
put
in
so
the
girls
had
something
to
copy
against
that
online
check.
Well,
now,
invoice
cloud:
we
have
online
check
system
through
invoice
cloud
and
those
checks
are
basically
down
to
a
minimum.
Maybe
a
hundred
a
quarter.
A
Yeah,
that's
pretty
amazing
dave
and
just
you
know,
give
a
shout
out
to
your
employees
in
the
office,
certainly
appreciate
it
and
I
pay
my
taxes
online.
It's
the
easiest
way
to
do
it
and
I
hope
everybody
takes
advantage
of
the
system.
So
thanks
again.
K
Thank
you,
I'm
not
sure
if
mr
capuano,
mr
igor,
want
to
address
it
with
respect
to
the
revenue,
the
legal
fees,
that's
appropriated
for
200,
000,
and
but
it's
not
anywhere
near
that
amount.
Is
that
anticipated?
That's.
H
H
As
well,
then,
I
think
it's
put
one.
H
Perceive
exhausting
in
that
359
that's
the
ending
balance
under
cash
overage
then,
which
is
lying.
Q
Well,
cash
overage
is,
is
just
it's
random.
You
know
we
we
sometimes
when
they
collect
only
throughout
the
day
they
they
tally
their
drawers
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
there
might
be
an
extra
five
ten
fifteen
dollars
in
the
in
the
in
their
cash
register.
So
basically
it's
it's
money
that
we
receive
due
to
either
they
process
something
at
an
a
wrong
amount,
or
somebody
gave
us
the
wrong
amount
and
it
got
into
the
account.
So
it's
extra
money
that
the
city
has
received.
Q
Q
You
can't
you
can't
identify
the
particular
person
that
gave
it
because
the
register's
open
for
two
days
at
a
time,
so
they
they
collect
for
two
days
straight-
the
cash
by
customer.
So
it's
all
going
into
the
one
one
register
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
day
they
run
a
tape
to
see
how
much
should
be
in
the
register
and
compare
it
to
what's
actually
in
the
register
and
the
amount
that's
over
is
is
what
goes
into
this
cash
overage
line.
So
it's
it's
almost
impossible
to
identify.
H
Q
We
don't
even
know
who
who's
the
unclaimed
property
belong
to.
You
know
like
we.
We
do
that
with
checks.
If
we
issue
somebody
a
check
and
they
don't
cash
it
within
so
many
months,
we
have
to
send
it
up
to
the
state
of
rhode
island
and
that
that's
a
process.
That's
done
within
the
finance
department
itself.
H
Okay,
thank
you
and
that
specific
department,
it
doesn't
look
like
there
is
obviously
the
one
of
the
questions
I
had
council
mourinho
just
asked
in
terms
of
the
the
revenue
component
of
it,
but
I'll
I'll
be
asking
actually
this
of
all
directors-
and
I
really
forgot
to
ask
yesterday,
but
if
is
there
room
for
any
sp,
any
cuts
at
all,
at
least
within
the
department?
My
assumption
is
no
based
on
these
numbers.
I'm
just
curious.
Q
D
R
Q
That's
that's
the
title,
search
that
the
outside
lawyers
perform
before.
We
actually
start
the
proceed
with
the
tax
sale
process.
Q
Unsure
councilman,
it
depends
on
how
many
properties,
because
we
notify
the
person
they
have
the
opportunity
to
come
in
before
the
property
goes
for
sale
and
if
they,
if
they
clear
up
their
balances,
it
doesn't
go
to
tax
sale.
So
then
we
don't
have
to
do
the
title
search
on
the
property,
thereby
reducing
the
expenditure
through
the.
R
Q
And,
and
and
just
to
your
point,
because
we
we've
implemented
this
invoice
cloud
system,
we're
finding
fewer
and
fewer
people
are
being
delinquent
with
their
taxes.
That's
why
also
when
we
get
to
the
revenues,
we
see
that
we
decrease
the
amount
of
delinquent
taxes
that
we
need
to
collect,
because
there's
fewer
and
fewer
dollars
available
each
year
for
the
city
to
collect
in
delinquent
taxes.
C
You,
mr
igo,
why
is
it
say
that
the
do
we
have
a
vacant
city?
Treasurer
position?
That's
unfunded,
that's
correct!
C
A
A
point
of
information,
mr
igo
made
a
statement
that
since
the
invoice
cloud
came
in,
you
know
people
are
less
delinquent.
It's
because
you
send
like
seven
emails,
that
the
taxes
are
due
and
the
automatic
system
sends
it
to
like
1
30
in
the
morning.
So
if
you,
you
know
get
up
and
you
look
at
your
phone
you're
like
yeah,
I
know
I
got
to
pay
my
taxes,
so
it's
doing
a
good
job.
H
Yes,
I
just
had
a
quick
message
sign.
I
tend
to
ask
this
question
every
year
to
mr
strom,
and
he
continues
to
tell
me
you
can't
do
this,
but
given
the
fact
that
we're
moving
on
to
online
system,
where
we
have
that
online
system
on
the
postage
system,
I
know
it
was
just
decreased
to
about
five
thousand
dollars
and
that's
all
on
the
tax
bills
and
everything
else
along
those
lines.
H
But
given
the
fact
we're,
having
more
and
more
just
taxpayers
paying
online
is,
is
that
numbers
a
number
that
you
foresee
continuing
to
spend
like
the
full
125
I
mean
it
was
reduced,
but
on
on
postage,
yeah.
Q
Well,
I
I
think
until
our
system
incorporates
everybody's
email
onto
a
property
and
onto
a
tax
bill,
we're
going
to
be
stuck
actually
sending
the
bills
majority.
A
lot
of
the
bills
go
to
the
big
banks.
You
know
because
people
escrow
their
their
mortgage
payments
and
you
know
that's
another
way
that
we
we
collect.
The
the
bigger
banks,
corelogic
is,
is
the
largest
they
just
send
in
one
check
with
a
big
file,
but
all
the
bills
go
directly
to
them.
H
U
If
I
can,
if
I
can
just
add
in
on
that
that
mail,
that
postage
line
item
is
for
the
entire
city
mail,
that
the
tax
collection
office
is
in
charge
of
that
we
send
out
every
single
day,
so
any
outgoing
mail
is
done
by
my
office,
mostly
by
me,
going
out
to
you
know
whether
it's
senior
center
sending
it
over
whether
it's
canvassing
setting
up
2
000
pieces.
That
all
goes
through.
That
line
item.
H
Okay,
so
that
being
said,
particularly
the
fact
that
you
touch
base
on
canvassing
with
people
requesting
mail,
ballots
or
anything
along
those
line,
is
that
going
to
then
increase
the
postage
because
we
just
decreased
it
by
five?
So
I'm
just
curious:
if
that'll
be
a
problem,
no.
D
Thank
you.
Council
president
next
listed
on
here
is
revenues.
Is
that
it's
just
a
general
we're
going
to
look
at
all
revenues
right
now.
D
On
the
small
binder
it's
on
starts
on
page
four,
it
says
summary
of
revenues,
revenues.
A
Q
A
June
or
july,
do
they
make
pilot
money
payments
timely
or
do
you
every
year?
Is
it
the
same
time.
A
A
The
last
time
we
had
a
that
your
knowledge
had
a
big
increase
in
pilot
money.
Q
A
Yeah,
I
just
have
a
pet
peeve
with
that.
I
wish
we
got
more
pilot
money
for
what
we,
what
the
city
provides
for
services
up
there
and
for
the
lost
opportunity
that
we
have.
As
you
know,
we've
had
topgolf,
you
know,
pushed
off
and
pushed
off
covert
came
in
that
the
davao
building
there
was
used,
obviously
for
covid.
I
wish
they.
The
state
would
consider
that
and
give
us
a
boost
in
pilot
money
to
make
up
for
that.
To
be
honest
with
you,
so
thank
you.
Q
I
mean
obviously
the
biggest
increase
would
would
be
with
the
tax
2.85
percent
increase
that
proposed
for
residential
commercial
properties.
We
also
lost
money
because
the
motor
vehicle
tax
rate
has
dropped
from
30
dollars
to
20
dollars.
Q
Conversely,
though,
the
state
aid
that
we
get
from
the
state
excise
phase
outline
item
that's
increased
because
of
the
same
reason,
because
it's
supposed
to
be
an
offset,
you
know
the
the
motor
vehicle
decrease
is
supposed
to
be
offset
by
the
state
as
as
part
of
state
aid.
Q
So
then,
if
we,
if
you
want
to
just
go
through
each
department,
city
clerk
is
up,
I
think
we
spoke
about
this
last
night,
a
bit
with
the
real
estate,
but
there's
also
a
car
corresponding
expense.
That
goes
up
because
it's
only
a
portion
of
the
these
funds
that
we
collect
that
the
city
gets
to
keep
a
porsche,
goes
to
the
state.
So
there's,
even
though
the
revenue
is
up,
the
expense
is
up
proportionately
through
the
chair.
R
Mr
demaio,
yes,
the
city
clerk's
office,
is
running
at
a
92
percent
collection
based
on
the
budget
allocated
for
2022.
If
they
consistently
go
at
that
rate,
they'll
be
at
about
4.6
million
annualized.
Q
Municipal
court's
proposed
budget
has
an
increased
slight
increase.
Well,
no,
that's
actually.
Q
Based
on
current
year
activity,
there's
an
assumption
that
the
monies
collected
by
the
municipal
court
will
increase
as
well.
R
Point
of
information
they're
currently
running
at
72
percent
of
budgeted
for
2022.
R
It
could
be
just
based
on
lag
of
deposits
if
they
don't
deposit
each
day
or
the
fees
aren't
received.
Q
Q
City
planning
that
decreased
last
year,
they
had
expected
to
receive
a
grant
for
their
comprehensive
plan
and
they
think
that
that
money
will
not
materialize
again
next
year.
M
Thank
you
chairman,
good
evening,
mr
igo,
a
real,
quick
question
on
the
the
building
inspections
revenue.
Mr
demeo
just
mentioned
that
the
the
budget
as
a
whole
is
running
about
105
percent
to
this
year.
The
line
item,
specifically
it's
within
group,
one
one,
one
one
it's
line,
42160
building
permits
last
year's
budget
was
805
000..
M
The
proposed
budget
for
fiscal
23
is
down
just
under
twenty
thousand,
but
the
today
we've
received
a
hundred
and
ten
percent
of
fiscal
year.
Twenty
two,
so
I'm
wondering
is
you
know
what
the
reason
behind
having
a
if
we're
three
quarters
in
and
we're
at
110,
but
we're
reducing
projections
for
next
year
by
2.5
percent.
M
O
J
M
W
I
was
listening.
Thank
you.
I
know
this
this
year
coming
up
to
the
end
of
the
fourth
quarter
fairly.
Soon
we
had
a
banner
year
with
building
commits.
I
just
didn't
think
that
we
could
sustain
that
moving
forward
for
those
values,
so
I
dropped
it
a
little
bit
from
the
other
805
000.
D
Q
Q
Department
1606,
I
believe
yes,
so
the
it's.
If
you
look
at,
let's
see
what
page
it's
on.
Q
We
had
had
left
it
at
zero
and
after
talking
with
director
that
that
number
should
be
75
000.
Q
It's
on
page
nine
in
department,
1606,
47,
150
senior
services,
rsvp.
C
Thank
you,
mr
erica.
What
is
that
running
right
now.
H
Okay,
for
just
through
the
chair,
can
we
just
have
mr
aigo
repeat
what
mr
craddock
said
just
for
people
on
youtube
watching
are
able
to
actually
hear
what
mr
director
craddock
just
said.
Sure.
Q
D
H
Mrigo,
the
under
the
revenue,
the
senior
services.
I
know
we
are
going
to
go
through
that
department.
Perhaps
a
socratic
director
credit
can
elaborate
then,
but
I
was
just
curious.
H
Q
There's
a
couple
of
contracts
at
the
nutrition
program
services
and
they
are
expiring
in
december,
and
we
are
anticipating
that
they
will
not
continue
so
that
there'll
be
a
decrease
in
revenue
in
that
department.
Correspondingly
there'll
be
also
decreases
on
their
expense
side
because
we
won't
have
to
be
providing
the
services
related
to
those
contracts.
H
Okay,
so
either
you
you'd
be
able
to
either
answer
this
or,
if
not,
I
can
wait
until
the
until
director
product
comes
before
us.
Only
because
I
do
see
the
nutrition
plan
has
been
reduced
under
the
mayor's
budget
under
the
senior
services
by
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I'm
just
looking
at
the
revenue.
H
Q
H
D
Okay,
any
revenue
questions
can
be
asked
directly
to
any
department
head.
Anyone
else
have
any
questions.
D
V
G
P
Okay,
basically,
the
it
department
oversees
the
installation
and
maintenance
of
computers
and
the
city
network.
D
Okay,
any
questions
for
the
it
department
council
just.
A
K
Thank
you
good
evening,
ms
gungio,
I
had
a
question
with
respect
to
the
professional
services
on
the
proposed
budget.
It
it
is
providing
for
104
thousand
dollars
and
that
was
not
previously
allocated
in
prior
budgets.
Can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
that
is.
P
Yes,
we
had
our
I.t
support
person
retire,
and
the
city
has
chosen
to
hire
an
on-site
engineer
from
our
vendor.
It
has
been
has
proven
very
beneficial
to
our
department
in
the
city.
P
K
Okay,
thank
you,
director
of
administration,
mr
perillo
indicated
it
may
have
been
about
seventy
thousand,
but
I
assume
that's
before
any
benefits.
O
H
Okay,
the
kind
of
piggybacking
a
little
bit
on
the
professional
services
on
because
we're
outsourcing
correct.
Are
we
outsourcing,
inter
in
what
ways
are
we
outsourcing
when
we're
talking
about
professional
services?
Is
it
the
maintenance
of?
Is
it?
Is
it
the
server?
Is
it
just
a
person
to
come
in.
P
He
works
five
days
a
week
and
basically
you
know
it's.
He
waits
on
the
the
needs
of
the
city.
So,
if
there's
printers
down,
if
software
has
to
be
installed,
if
computers
have
to
be
deployed,
he
does
that.
H
Thank
you.
I
had
another
follow-up
question
and
that
was
in
terms
of
the
technology
upgrades.
I
don't
have
the
expenditures
right
now,
but
perhaps
see
either
mr
ago
or
or
the
auditor
does
just
like
to
know
where
we
are
in
terms
of
the
technology
upgrade
system
upgrades
on
those
two
items.
If
possible.
Sorry
technology.
P
You
want
to
know
what
we're
going
to
use
the
money
towards
is
that.
J
Q
H
Q
Q
H
Thank
you,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
as
far
as
giving
the
fact
on
the
computer,
maintenance
and
fees
where
software
licensing
application
supported
all
along
those
lines.
H
You
know
in
terms
of
updating
any
given
the
fact
it's
been
on,
both
on
all
three
items
on
the
computer
maintenance
system
upgrades
and
technology
upgrades
yeah.
What
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
a
lot
of,
obviously
to
upgrade
and
there's
a
lot
of
maintenance,
and
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
you
know
how.
H
How
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
our
systems
are
not
breaching
and
that
our
cyber
security
is
actually
in
place
in
terms
of
the
city-wide
systems
that
we
have
and
what
microsoft
service
are
we
actually
currently
in
using
right
now.
P
We
just
increased
our
microsoft
o365
licenses
to
business
premium,
which
brought
the
city
up
to
2019
and
all
our
servers
have
been
upgraded
to
the
current
version,
except
for
the
finance
server
which
the
next
fiscal
year,
starting
in
july,
we're
going
to
be
starting
on
on
that
server.
H
C
Thank
you,
miss
gungio.
Are
there
any
plans
if
it's,
if
it's
fiscally
responsible
to
use
outside
vendors
in
the
example
earlier
for
a
vacant
position?
C
Is
that
a
practice
we
will
continue
going
forward?
Are
there
any
other
positions
that
would
be
better
to
be
outside
contractors,
and
is
that
also
what
brave
river
is
underneath
the
technology
upgrade?
Is
that
what
is
brave,
river
support.
P
Brave
river
is
a
company
that
writes
software,
so
they
we
had
a
company
that
created
our
website,
but
they're
also
going
to
help
our
gis
manager
with
programming
of
like
title
cods
and
trans
van.
D
P
D
Okay
and
the
2023
up
budget,
for
you
is
one
million
five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand,
which
is
an
increase
of
about
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars.
Do
you
see
any
way
possible
in
that
your
budget,
that
any
of
that
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
can
be
cut?
As
you
know,
we're
facing
a
2.85
tax
increase
and
the
school
department
is
asking
for
more
money
so
which
could
result
in
a
three
percent
tax
increase,
so
we're
looking
at
every
department
asking
them
the
same
question.
P
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
I've
seen
an
increase
of
10
to
30
percent
in
licensing
and
supplies,
and
a
lot
of
our
maintenance
and
freeze
line
item
is
all
contractual
and
so
is
the
telephone.
P
So
I
I
really
don't
see
where
I
can
cut
with
trying
to
continue
to
upgrade,
and
you
know
so.
The
the
city
is
current
with
everything.
So
I
don't
see
where
I
could
cut.
K
P
So
that's
why
bob
strom
brought
him
in
for
the
chill
day.
K
So
if
I
understand
you
previously,
it
was
four
days
a
week
and
it
was
changed
to
five
days
a
week.
Right,
remember
what
the
cost
was
when
it
was
four
days
a
week.
D
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
Councilwoman
manzulli,
sorry,.
C
One
more
the
differential,
can
you
please
tell
me
who's
getting
the
differential,
what
positions
and
what
it
is.
P
Our
gis
manager
gets
a
differential
for
doing
gis
duties
for
the
tax
assessor
and
I'm
getting
a
differential
for
doing
it.
The
it
manager
position.
C
Mr
ago,
do
you
know
what
that
it
manager
is
just
on
its
own?
It
was
filled.
J
Q
O
C
Mr
misgungio,
that
that
position
itself,
the
it
manager
position
would
that
cover
some
of
the
things
that
were
actually
you
know
spreading
around
and
outsourcing
or
no
or
no.
What
is
that
actual
job?
Do
you
know.
P
No,
I'm
basically
doing
it's.
You
know
clerical,
I'm
also
back
up
for
it
support,
I'm
also
back
up
for
the
switchboard.
You
know
I
do
the
budget.
I
correspond
with
all
the
vendors.
D
H
Q
The
network
manager
position
is
the
one
that
was
left
vacant
in
lieu
of
hiring
the
outside
consultant,
their
cost
for
that
position
last
year
was
a
hundred
and
seven
thousand
dollars.
So
technically
it's
over
three
thousand
dollar
savings
from
what
we
were
paying
that
person.
What
we're
paying
this
company
to
do.
Q
Q
J
O
H
Q
Q
With
with
with
apex.
P
Bob
strom,
you
know
he
he
signed
the
contract.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure.
K
Just
to
follow
up
the
outside
vendor
doing
the
it
support.
Does
that
person
have
a
different
skill
set
than
someone
that
is
already
employed
in
the
department.
Q
P
Yes,
yes,
well,
we
have
a
gis
manager
who,
basically
you
know
she
does
gis,
but
she
writes
programs
and
we
have
a
network
manager
that
kind
of
monitors
our
network
profiles,
pcs,
basically,
maintenance
of
our
data
center.
P
We
have
a
programmer
that
helps
the
gis
manager
and
basically
the
hired
vendor
is
doing
the
day-to-day
support.
You
know
that
people
open
tickets.
A
F
I
think
they're
properly
staffed
right
now,
so
the
role
that
elaine
has
now
she
took
over
as
the
manager
differential,
so
we're
making
savings
there
person
from
apex
their
skill
set,
is
much
more
comprehensive
than
the
person
that
they
replaced
and
it's
a
set
rate.
So
some
employee,
you
have
additional
benefits:
a
cell
phone
short
on
healthcare.
The
healthcare
cost
could
escalate.
So
I
fixed
our
costs
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
so
I
think
their
staff
right
where
they
need
to
be
right.
Now.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
only
just
you
know
it's
nice
to
hear
about
apex,
because
I
think
they
do
bring
that
different
skill
set
when
cyber
security
issues
come
up
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
you
gotta
kind
of
be
on
the
cutting
edge
with
that,
and
it
certainly
is
a
savings
with
the
benefit
package.
So
that's
a
that's
a
plus
thank
you.
D
Ms
gonzalez,
thank
you
for
your
time.
We
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
and
we
appreciate
you
talking
to
us
tonight.
Thank
you.
D
Me,
yes,
we
can
hear
you
welcome
we'd,
like
you
to
give
us
a
little
summary
of
what
you
do
and
introduce
your
budget
to
us.
Please,
and
then
we
might
have
some
questions
for
you.
Thank
you.
Perhaps.
X
Absolutely
good
evening,
council,
I'm
tim
sanzio
director
of
community
development,
I'm
privileged
to
have
an
exceptional
staff,
one
of
whom
we
just
lost
to
retirement
last
month
and
what
we
do
as
a
team
is
manage.
The
community
development
block
grant,
which
is,
if
you
do
not
know
it's
a
supplement,
an
annual
supplement,
seeing
the
city
of
cranston
as
an
entitlement
city
we're
allowed
to
manage
an
annual
supplement
or
allotment
from
hud
each
year.
X
X
We
provide
a
great
deal
of
funding
for
programs
that
provide
exceptional
services
to
a
myriad
of
practices
within
the
city,
and
we
do
that
with
a
lot
of
pride
and
a
lot
of
personal
attention
and
customer
service
to
the
people
who
need
it.
Residence
in
city
of
christ.
X
I
would
add
that
our
budget
that
was
submitted
for
fiscal
year
23
is
an
estimate.
On
average,
the
last
10
years,
the
city
of
cranston,
has
been
awarded
approximately
a
million
dollars.
X
We
have
not
been
officially
awarded
this
year.
Congress
passed
enacted
the
legislation
and
allotments
late,
so
hud
is
presently
trying
to
develop
what
our
city
and
all
the
other
municipalities
are
going
to
receive
for
this
year.
So
I
estimated
it
at
a
million
dollars
and
116
000
is
a
program
income,
which
is
an
estimate
that
we've
had
for
each
year
and
the
program
income
side
comes
from
our
loan
portfolio
that
we
carry
based
on
the
housing
rehabilitation
loans.
We
generate
monthly.
M
Thank
you
chairman,
good
evening,
mr
sanzi.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
earlier
this
evening
I
sent
miss
tanzi,
an
email
asking
for
the
breakdown
of
the
cdbg
allotment,
and
he
very
quickly
turned
that
turn
that
over
to
me.
So
I
I
just
want
to
thank
you
publicly
for
for
being
so
prompt
in
a
response.
The
there's
about
a
17
reduction
in
salary
is
that,
due
to
that
retirement.
X
X
M
How
has
thank
you
for
that
answer
that
that
makes
sense
for
and
I'm
not
suggesting
any
of
them
be
reduced?
Let
me
just
start
the
preface
my
question
with
that.
In
light
of
a
lot
of
the
resources
and
financial,
some
financial
supports
that
have
been
put
in
place
through
through
code
throughout
the
the
pandemic,
how
have
some
of
the
rent-
you
know:
rental
assistance,
heating
assistance
programs
like
that?
How
how
have
those
been
going
with
the
community
with
you
know,
kind
of
the
abundance
of
other
stuff?
X
Yeah
aside
from
the
very
active
the
answer,
quite
simply,
aside
from
the
general
cdbg
grant,
we've
also,
the
city
was
also
awarded
in
two
separate
allotments,
approximately
1.1
billion
dollars
for
a
covet
response
grant,
which
we're
about
three
quarters
of
the
way
through
in
the
last
year.
X
We've
done
everything
we
can
to
push
money
out
into
the
community
for
a
myriad
of
projects
from
rent
mortgage
assistance
to
economic
development,
business,
supporting
grants
for
individuals
and
businesses,
which
that
alone,
we've
supported
approximately
45
businesses
with
176
000
of
support.
X
This
is
all
covert
related
items,
the
senior
center
cleaning
the
senior
center
and
providing
a
computer
room
which,
which
they
never
had.
We
did
improvements
to
the
hope
center.
X
X
X
Among
some
other
projects,
the
mortgage
and
rent
relief,
we're
in
competition
with
rhode,
island
housing,
which
is
about
200
million
dollars
and
their
paperwork
quite
frankly,
is
much
easier
to
work
through
than
hud's
hud
says.
Hud
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
regulation
and
requirements
for
the
applicants,
but
through
ccap
we
funneled
approximately
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
just
for
mortgage
relief
through
c
cap
for
needy
families.
X
During
this
very
challenging
time
in
covert.
M
Councilman
donegan,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
director,
sanzi,
for
for
all
that
that
sorry,
for
I
know
that,
in
the
past
and
and
based
on
what
you
sent,
you
know
looks
like
housing,
rehabilitation
and
housing.
Acquisition
are
gonna,
be
two
substantial
allotments
of
the
of
the
million
projected
for
next
year.
How
is
that?
Has
there
have
there
been
any
properties
acquired
in
the
past?
You
know
calendar
year
through
affordable
housing,
acquisition.
X
There
have
not
we've,
we
are
in
competition.
I
think
there
are
seven
foreclosures
we
have
to.
We
have
to
purchase
foreclosed
property
in
order
to
rehab
that
and
resell
that
to
a
low
to
moderate
income
qualifying
family.
I
think
there
was
seven
in
the
last
year
what
what
traditionally
happens
is
rhode.
X
Island
housing
will
have
them
on
a
list
and
they'll
buy
them
right
up,
so
we're
working
with
them
presently
and
also
talking
at
central
florals
housing
working
with
them
on
a
demo
rehab
project
for
low
moderate
income,
housing
right
now
as
well.
So
we're
working
on
that,
but
at
the
same
time,
because
of
the
housing
you
know
the
real
estate
market,
it's
very
difficult
to
make
an
acquisition.
X
We
try
to
do
one
each
year,
I've
taken
some
of
that
money
and
put
it
towards
housing,
rehabilitation
which
is
really
grown
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
which
I
think
is
good
for
the
preserving
the
the
housing
stock.
So
we're
getting
a
lot
more
clients
that
are
coming
in.
X
We
also
did
a
little
bit
more
advertisement
last
year
for
that,
because
trying
to
make
one
of
my
goals
to
make
as
many
people
as
possible,
aware
of
all
the
benefits
and
opportunities
that
we
can
provide
for
them
if
they
qualify.
M
Thank
you,
sir.
I
appreciate
it
and-
and
thank
you
I
know
you
know
this
department
in
particular,
does
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and,
and
is
you
know,
beneficial
to
the
whole
city,
but
particularly,
you
know
the
areas
that
I
represent,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say.
I
appreciate
your
work
and
the
work
you
do
for
our
community.
J
J
G
Thank
you
I'll
make
sure
I
am
india
white
fly
item
five,
one:
three:
zero:
three
hospitality,
hospitalization
bypack.
G
G
Okay,
I
see
for
the
past
four
years.
It
was
zero
okay
and
then
we
start
an
increase
2021
from
2106.
G
X
Yeah
that
that's
that's
a
buy
bag
for
not
accepting
medical
coverage
for
the
city.
That's
because
I
have
a
retirement
from
the
state.
G
G
H
G
H
I
just
had
a
quick
question
to
the
to
the
director
director
zanzi
good
evening
or
8
30
almost
already,
but
we
last
fiscal
year
for
the
budget
time.
You
provided
us
a
listing,
I
think,
to
councilman
donegan
and
I
probably
for
the
whole
clerk
on
the
projects
that
you
were
for,
seeing
like
the
programs
in
place
that
you
would
use
the
funds
for
for
fy22.
J
H
X
I
I
I
certainly
do,
but
just
so
you
know
it
is
an
estimate,
but
but
they
are
representative
allotments
from
after
we've
had
our
advisory
committee
meetings.
So
there
it's
a
ballpark
but
yeah.
I
absolutely
can
do
that.
Councilman.
H
Thank
you,
but
you
can
actually
share
it
to
the
clerk
so
that
way,
if
the
clerk
would
then
disseminate
the
information
to
all
of
us,
that
would
that
would
be
great,
and
is
it
my
understanding
that
you're
saying
that
there
are
available
grants
through
cdbg
right
now
for
folks
who
apply.
X
Yes,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
opportunities
for
different
programs,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we're
we're
going
to
advertise
for
the
actually.
It
should
be
in
the
herald
right
now,
the
scholarship
program,
which
is
a
thousand
dollar
scholarship.
Last
year
we
did
18
students
this
year.
I
think
we're
going
to
fund
14
housing
acquisition,
housing,
rehab
down
payment
assistance,
closing
cost
assistance,
fuel,
which
is
a
big
program.
X
H
I'm
I'm
looking
visually
here
at
a
map
that
I,
the
city
once
had
and
anything
that
was
color-coded
purple
would
pretty
much
be
entitled
to
receive
title
1
funds
I
mean
cdbg
funding,
there's
a
park
on
smith
street
that
I
think
might
be
in
the
pipeline
of
that
falls
under
this
purple
line.
Item
under
cdbg
is
that
being
that
coming
out
of
this
potential
that
project
goes
on?
Is
it
coming
out
of
fiscal
year?
23?
H
X
I
I
well
that
was
originally
planned.
Last
year
I
had
actually
planned
the
splash
pad
smith,
florida
and
whipple
to
accomplish.
Unfortunately,
the
the
splash
pad
is
going
to
take
precedent.
X
What
had
happened
is
a
lot
of
the
hvac
cleaning
for
the
larger
facilities
that
are
entertained
by
a
larger
population.
For
example,
the
senior
center
quickly
consumed
a
lot
of
funding
because
of
the
expense,
but
you
know
made
a
decision
to
prioritize
that,
because
we
had
to
track
it
back.
X
J
X
Was
capable
of
retaining
funding
the
splash
pad,
but
the
other
three
parks
are
gonna
have
to
wait.
X
That's
a
long
way
to
answer
your
question,
but
as
for
right
now,
we're
not
gonna
fund
the
smith
street.
J
O
D
I
know
that
everyone's
pretty
familiar
with
what
you
do,
if
you
just
want
to
give
us
a
little
explanation
of
what
it
is.
You
do
and
introduce
your
budget
to
us,
and
then
we
might
have
some
questions
for
you.
W
Okay,
so
our
role
for
the
city
is
to
enforce
the
state
adopted,
building
codes,
electrical
codes,
plumbing
codes,
mechanical
and
fuel
class
codes,
as
well
as
the
property
maintenance
code,
and
that's
for
new
construction
renovation
to
existing
structures,
pools,
decks,
vinyl,
siding
roof
windows,
so
it
entitles
quite
a
bit
of
quite
a
large
area
of
building
codes.
We
also
enforce
the
city
zoning
ordinance
as
well
as
we
are
secretary
to
the
zoning
board.
D
Okay,
mister
question:
for
you.
R
Now
just
a
point
of
information,
the
current
revenue
side
is
running
at
a
106
of
budgeted
and
the
expenses
currently
are
running
at
73.
M
Thank
you
chairman,
good
evening,
director
rodrigo.
How
are
you,
sir,.
M
Just
a
few
quick
questions,
the
on
the
I'll
start
on
the
revenue
side.
I
know
you
would
answer
the
question
about
building
permits.
I
appreciate
that
the
other
one
is
excuse
me
on
solar
permits
on
solar
permits
and
which
is
line
four
two
one.
Seven,
six
in
revenue
group,
one
one
one,
one.
O
O
M
So
yeah
fiscal
year's
22,
it's
it's
budgeted
at
60
000
for
the
mayor's
proposed
budget
before
us.
It's
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
to
date,
we've
already
received
over
200
000,
and
you
know
three
quarters
in
we're
at
361
percent
of
what
was
budgeted
for
the
last
year.
Is
there
any
reason
why
it's
it's
so
drastically
high
this
year,
and
do
you
think
that
the
increase
in
projections
for
fiscal
23
of
50
000
is
too
low.
W
Well,
solar
or.
J
W
The
pv
cells
have
come
such
a
long
way
in
the
past
couple
of
years.
There
is
so
much
there
are
so
many
permits
issued
to
solar
this
year.
It's
grown
like
exponentially.
W
M
Do
you
think
that's
a
trend,
that's
going
to
continue
or
or
is
this
going
to
be?
You
know
just
a
one-off
kind
of
blimp
where
we're
going
to
see
a
major
spike
and
then
it's
going
to
come.
W
Up,
I
don't
know
if
it'll
be
a
spike,
I
I
think
it's
going
to
continue
to
grow
as
long
as
you
know,
the
government
is
pushing
for
more.
You
know
renewable
resources.
M
Okay,
I
guess-
and
so
I
recognize
that
the
the
percentage
increase
from
fiscal
22
to
the
proposed
budget
is
it
I
mean
it's,
it's
an
84
increase.
That's
a
that's
a
you
know,
sizable
amount,
but
that's
still
considered
more
than
what
the
actuals
are
for
fiscal
year
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
So
do
you
think
that
it's
going
to
sustain
at
that?
You
know
over
200
000.
W
Well,
yeah
I
mean
I
don't
I
don't
know
about
that,
I'm
hoping
that
it
continues
to
to
grow
or
meet
that
number,
but,
like
I
said,
I.
M
The
budget
proposed
in
front
of
us
is
a
reduction
of
ten
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
date.
We're
we're
only
at
about
thirty
five
percent
of
actuals
through
the
first
three
quarters.
So
I
guess
it.
You
know
a
reduction
makes
sense,
but
when
looking
back
at
previous
years,
part-time
help
is,
is
that
such
as
59
000,
88,
000,
43
000
and
the
previous
fiscal
year
fiscal
year
21
the
actual
was
47
000..
M
W
Well,
in
my
three
years
here,
there
was
a
part-time
help,
an
architect
who
was
doing
our
plan
review
and
he
was
there
for
a
couple
of
years,
so
that
brought
the
numbers
up,
I'm
not
sure
what
they
were
paying
them
on
an
hourly
rate.
But
I
think
it
was
north
of
50
an
hour
for
sure.
W
We've
since
then
hired
a
full-time
position
for
a
plan,
reviewer,
slash
inspector
who
has
taken
on
that
role-
and
I
don't
know
what
his
salary
is.
But
it's
nowhere
near
that
80
000.
M
Sorry,
my
last
question
is
regarding
salary
schedule.
I
do
want
to
commend
the
mayor
for
adding
an
inspection,
a
minimum
housing
inspections
position.
I
do
think
that
that's
desperately
needed,
given
the
aging
housing
stock,
particularly
in
eastern
cranston,
and
the
health
issues
that
that
potentially
poses
to
residents
within
the
city.
M
W
M
Thank
you,
and
for
I
I
guess
anyone
mr
demayo,
mr
igo,
mr
rodeo.
Whoever
could
could
take
this.
How
much?
O
R
That's
correct:
it's
broken
out
of
councilman
in
the
binder
in
the
big
binder.
It's
got
his
page.
Q
W
C
Thank
you,
mr
rodeo.
Can
you
just
maybe
clarify
for
me
last
year
I
know
we
funded
half
an
inspector,
and
maybe
council
president
can
answer
or
mr
demaio,
where
is
where
is
that?
Where
do
I
see
what
is
half
an
inspector?
We
is
that
part
inspector
part
plan
reviewer.
Is
that
what
part
time.
W
That's
a
full-time
position:
titled
the
plan
review,
slash
inspector,
so
he
has
multiple
jobs.
He
can
do
reviews
in
the
office
and
do
inspections
in
the
field.
G
W
Oh
yeah,
I
think
it's
a
long
overdue.
I
mean
it's
a
big
city
and
we
have
three
inspectors
doing
minimum
housing,
slash
zoning,
slash
posting
work,
that's
been
going
on
with
no
building
permits,
so
everybody
is
very
busy
in
our
office.
We
have
a
great
staff
and
we
could
certainly
use
a
little
help.
A
Just
for
mr
rodeo,
thank
you
for
being
here
by
the
way,
the,
if
you
add
another
inspector,
do
you
foresee
it
being
a
revenue
generator
or
it
won't
bring
enough
revenue
in
to
cover
the
position.
W
I
don't
think
it'll
generate
revenue,
but
it'd
be
a
great
asset
for
the
citizens
of
the
city.
If
we
can
process
permits
quicker,
if
we
can
do
inspections
quicker,
if
we
can
get
to
complaints
quicker,
I
think
the
all
the
residents
of
the
city
would
would
benefit
okay.
Thank
you.
M
Sorry
last
question
director
rodeo:
if
you,
if
you
in
your
your
dream
situation,
how
many
inspectors
do
you
know
if
you
could
have
your
pick,
how
many
inspectors
would
you
have
in
your
department.
H
Director
rodeo
good
evening,
quick
question,
so
you
are
fully
stopped.
Everyone
is
in
there's
no
one
out
currently
right
in
your
department.
W
We
do
have
somebody
on
injury,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's,
if
it's
still
in
our
payroll,
it's
been
out
for
quite
a
while.
H
G
I
just
want
to
pick
it
back
on
and
the
question
on
council
president
krabowska
asked
if
the
addition
of
the
inspector
considered
with
you
and
the
joker
say
no,
so
I
would
like
to
ask
how,
for
example,
if
you
find
a
violation,
is
there
any?
G
I
know,
for
example,
for
littering
there
is
a
two
hundred
dollar
fee
and
as
much
as
you
have
inspector
in
the
you
know
going
out
on
when
you,
if
you
have
those
violations,
do
we
have
any
fee
that
will
be
collected
that
will
cost
you
today
with
you.
W
Well,
the
process
we
use
if
we
find
a
property
maintenance
violation,
we
notify
the
owner
and
give
them
30
days
to
make
repairs
or
to
at
least
start
some
repairs.
Whatever
the
issues
are,
if
they
don't
do
that
within
30
days,
we
send
a
second
notice
out.
We
lean
the
property
and
we
try
and
get
it
into
the
court
system.
D
Okay,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
senior
services,
which
has
got
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven
different
categories.
Are
you
excited
good
evening?
Welcome?
Let's
all
please
be
mindful
of
the
time
and
we
welcome
you
tonight.
If
you
want
to
explain
a
little
bit
about
what
it
is,
you
do
introduce
your
budget
to
us
and
then
we
just
might
have
a
few
questions
for
you.
T
Senior
services,
as
I
said,
was
divided
into
seven
different
departments.
So
therefore,
we
have
seven
different
budgets,
essentially
they're,
all
just
different
components
of
the
senior
center.
So
we
have
administration,
which
is
kind
of
oversight.
Programs
which
manages
all
of
our
different
exercise.
Programs
are
music
programs
cards
chess.
All
of
those
different
things.
T
We
have
adult
day
care
which
is
our
ads,
which
takes
care
of
cranston
residents,
that
are
mildly
cognitive,
impaired
and
we
provide
them
services
during
the
day.
So
family
members
can
do
other
things,
social
services.
We
provide
help
with
grants
and
seniors
that
have
any
issues
at
all,
so
we
will
help
them
with
rent,
we'll
help
them
with
housing.
T
T
Nutrition
is
our
kitchen
which
cook
for
not
only
cranston
residents,
but
a
number
of
other
senior
centers
that
we
act
as
a
caterer
for
and
our
last
organization
is
our
senior
retired
senior
volunteer
program.
We
have
a
number
of
different
programs.
We
have
some
that
work
in
our
kitchen.
We
have
some
that
actually
drive
seniors
around
the
state,
helping
them
to
grocery
stores,
doctors
and
other
things.
So
it's
a
variety
of
different
programs
that
we
run
through
our
rsbt
program.
M
T
Them
are
running
this
department
last
year
when
I
presented
the
budget.
I'd
been
on
the
job
for
about
two
months,
so
I
was
still
in
the
learning
process
so
administration.
I
realized
that
we
didn't
need
all
the
part-time
help
that
we
had.
It
was
kind
of
a
little
bit
redundant.
T
So
in
programs,
it's
actually
not
a
reduction
in
part-time.
If
you,
if
you
look
further
down,
we
actually
move
those
dollars
down
to
instructors.
T
We
pay
our
instructors
in
two
different
ways:
some
are
part-time
associates
that
makes
it
easier
for
them
to
get
their
checks
and
then
the
rest
we
pay
under
the
instructor
line
as
they
perform
services.
We
pay
them.
So
we
just
shifted
dollars
down
there
because
as
we're
adding
new
instructors,
we're
not
really
adding
them
on
to
the
part-time
list.
We
really
keep
them
in
that
instructor
line,
and
then
nutrition
is
obviously
related
to
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
be
reducing
our
contracts
at
the
end
of
the
year.
M
T
It's
basically
the
number
of
meals
that
we're
preparing,
so
once
we
once
we
eliminate
the
contracts
for
both
blackstone
and
east
bay,
we'll
be
very
significantly
less
meals.
So
therefore,
our
cost
that
basically,
is
our
cost
of
goods
for
producing
our
meals,
so
that
price
is
going
to
actually
volume
is
going
to
go
down.
H
Thank
you
good
evening,
director
o'clock,
so
crook,
so
I
it's
very
similar
question
to
to
councilman
donegan
I
had
as
well
on
the
vacation,
sorry,
the
extra
vacation
time
or
the
part-time
positions.
Actually
I
just
say
so.
H
I'm
gonna
stick
with
nutrition
first,
because
that's
the
one
where
we
kind
of
left
off.
I
know
we're
reducing
nutrition
because
we're
making
our
own
now
our
own
food
is
that.
T
No
we're
actually
cranston
is
unique
in
the
fact
that
we
actually
are
a
caterer
for
blackstone
and
east
bay,
so
we
actually
provide
meals
to
16
other
senior
centers
around
the
state
we're
pulling
out
of
those
contracts,
so
we're
actually
for
the
first
half
of
the
year.
We
need
all
the
labor
everything
we
have,
but
in
the
back
half
that'll
start
that'll
reduce
because
we're
not
going
to
be
providing
all
of
those
other
senior
centers
with
meals.
We're
only
going
to
be
focusing
on
grants.
T
H
So
because
we
would
provide
them
the
the
other
cities
and
towns
with
meals.
Does
that
impact
the
revenue?
Then
I
mean:
why
are
we
cutting
those
programs?
I'm
just
curious?
Are
we.
T
It's
the
problem
is
that,
right
now
we
are
in
contracts,
we've
been
in
the
same
contracts
for
a
number
of
years,
where
we're
paying
a
value
that
is
significantly
less
than
what's
costing
the
contracts
don't
have
escalators
for
it.
Regarding
inflation
and
everything
else,
those
costs
have
gone
up
over
the
last
four
or
five
years,
we've
been
eating
that
cost
as
costs
of
going
up
recently,
even
greater
we're
still
having
all
of
those
costs
coming
on
us,
because
we
can't
pass
them
along
to
the
to
the
vendor.
T
So
decision
was
made
by
the
mayor
that
we
should
focus
on
cranston
and
not
focus
on
the
yes
to
the
state,
because
there
are
other
caterers
that
will
provide
those
services.
H
Okay
and
then
thank
you
for
answering
that,
and
then
the
other
component
was
again
piggybacking
on
what
john
on
councilman
donegan
said,
which
was
the
part-time.
You
said
some
of
them,
some
of
the
staff
ended
up
actually
coming
here
versus.
T
Going
there
associate
colonel
mancuso,
he
was
downstairs
now
in
the
security
office.
He
was
an
ambassador
for
us.
I.
T
N
T
H
All
right,
thank
you,
and
so
the
extra
vacation
after
10
years
under
the
1600
senior
services
administration,
then
that
went
just
slightly
down,
is
that
is
that,
because
someone
retired,
is
that.
T
I
believe
it
is,
I
think,
that's
related
to
the
fact
that
I
think,
if
you
look
at
it,
I
think
one
person
decided
not
to
take
it.
So
it's
an
optional
thing:
they
can
either
take
the
week's
pay
or
they
can
take
the
vacation.
H
D
No
public
comment
for
senior
services,
so
councilwoman
vargas.
You
may
ask
another
question.
H
Sure,
through
this
budget,
that's
being
proposed
for
fy23,
is
there
any
programs
that
are
being
cut?
My
hope
is
that
is
no,
but
I'm
just
making.
T
Sure
and
confirming
you
mean
programs
programs
for
the
seniors,
no
we're
actually
looking
to
expand.
So
one
of
the
things
we're
really
working
on
as
a
group
is
kind
of
a
membership
drive,
so
we're
looking
at
some
direct
mail
pieces
we're
adding
in
some.
We
brought
back
some
programs
that
a
lot
of
our
instructors
were
very
afraid
to
come
back
for
a
while,
so
we're
bringing
those
backs.
We
just
brought
back
ballroom
dancing
cards
was
suspended
for
a
while
we're
adding
more
events
than
we
than
we
are
taking
away.
T
Last
night
we
had
a
memory
loss
lecture
from
a
phd
from
rhode
island
hospital.
We
had
60
people
attending
that
last
night.
You
were
you
know
nice
enough
to
come
to
our
health
fair
last
week,
so
we're
adding
more
events
to
actually
draw
more
people
in
we're
planning
a
historical.
T
Like
historical
tours,
we're
going
to
actually
enlist
the
working
with
the
historical
society
so
we'll
take
the
seniors
around
different
neighborhoods
of
branston
and
kind
of
relive.
The
thing
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
rhode
island
thing,
so
we're
adding
programs
not
taking
away
programs
any
program
that
we
take
away
would
only
be
because
it's
just
not
in
attendance
that
we
have
and
we'll
just
move
on
to
another
program.
But
right
now
we're
not
eliminating
anything.
T
Good
shape
and
we
have
actually
a
number
of
older
vehicles
that
the
maintenance
folks
actually
use
for
parks
and
other
such
things.
So
the
vehicles
that
we're
currently
driving
around
every
day
are
in
very
good
shape.
H
All
right,
my
last
thing
was
even
expenses
and
everything
you
guys
are
pretty
much.
I
guess
to
the
auditor
just
to
keep
him
on
his
his
toes.
It's
gonna
show
where
we
are.
H
And
while
he's
doing
that,
I
just
want
to
get
ahead
and
again
thank
you
for
running
a
great
senior
center.
I
think
we
have
one
of
the
best
senior
centers
in
the
city
of
in
this
in
our
state,
so
appreciate
that.
O
R
Yeah
on
the
expense
sides
administration's
running
about
71
services
and
programs
running
about
71.8
percent,
adult
daycare
is
running
at
69
percent.
Social
services
is
running
at
83
percent.
R
R
Social
services
is
running
at
150
percent
to
budget
trans
van
services
are
running
at
30
percent
nutritions
running
at
32.55
percent
and
rsvp's
running
at
87.
H
Thank
you.
So
I
have
one
more
question:
where
was
mr
mancuso,
under
which
budget
item
was
his
salary
out
of,
and
where
did
it?
I
believe.
H
H
I
don't
know
if
I'm
derailing,
but
is
that
part-time
as
well
correct.
G
Thank
you
all
it's
it's
the
program
about.
You
know
for
the
covet.
Bender
things
has
changed.
So
how
do
we
keep
this
away,
like
some
devices
technology
for
those
elders
doing
the
pandemic?
How
we
still
have
those
programs
who
keep
them
in
case
or.
T
A
lot
of
the
we've
eliminated
most
of
the
protocols
at
the
center.
We
still
have
kind
of
a
call
list
for
people
that
are
homebound.
That
may
have
issues
related
to
that,
and
we
have
that
unwritten
call
those
folks
on
a
regular
basis,
but
the
technology
we
really
don't
have
any
technology
related
to
assisting
covid.
Folks,
we
have
some
we've
had
the
new
computer
lab
that
we
can
that
people
can
come
in
and
use
for
different
things
for
doctor.
G
So
you
didn't
use
any
technology
like
if
they
cannot
come
and
some.
I
know
some
center
give
tablet
you
know
to,
and
then
they
can
participate
in
activity
when
they
cannot
come
so.
T
No,
we
did
not,
we
don't.
We
don't
have
any.
We
only
have
like
one
tablet
in
the
building,
so
we
don't
really
have
that
technology
that
we
could
actually
lend
out
at
this
point
now.
J
K
Thank
you,
hi
director
credit
and
yes,
the
health.
Fair,
was
very
nice
to
experience,
and
I
do
appreciate
everything
that
you
do
and
having
a
direct
impact.
You
know
on
the
citizens.
It
really
makes
a
difference.
My
question
for
you,
I
have
just
a
few
quick
questions
before
councilman
vargas
had
asked
you
specifically
about
the
one
position:
employee,
part-time
employee-
that
that
you
did
recall
that
came
here
before
that.
K
There
was
only
one
then
okay,
director
perillo,
is
that
right?
Is
that
consistent,
okay
and
then
with
respect
to
just
the
expenditures
on
the
scene
of
services,
rsvp.
K
From
the
current
tail
end
of
a
third
quarter
here,
the
education
program,
the
two
thousand
dollars
allocated
there
just
what's
the
status
of
that
and
then
the
also
the
five
thousand
dollars
for
the
nutrition
program.
T
The
the
education
program
basically
covers
a
conference.
It's
been
canceled
for
the
last
two
years.
It's
going
to
be
virtual
this
year,
it's
a
requirement
for
americorps
prior
years.
It
was
in
washington
dc,
so
there
was
money
allocated
to
actually
support
people
to
go
down
to
the
actual
conference.
That's
what
that
was
there
for,
anticipating
that
the
conference
would
go,
live
again
in
2003.
T
So
that's
where
that
money's
there
nutrition
program
is
designed
to
support
different
activities,
including
a
thank
you
party
and
those
other
types
of
things.
Those
have
not
happened
for
the
last
couple
years
because
of
covid.
We
are
going
to
have
one
this
year,
so
we
may
not
spend
all
of
that
money,
but
we
probably
would
need
more
for
next
year,
as
we
expand
different
programs.
It's
also
we
provide.
T
We
do
tax
assistance
with
the
different
manners,
so
they'll
bring
snacks
and
other
things
like
that,
along
with
them
to
kind
of
make
the
event
more
interesting.
Those
are
those
two
dollars.
K
Would
that
also
be
a
similar
logic
with
respect
to
the
special
activities,
because.
T
D
Okay,
I'd
just
like
to
mention
to
you
that,
as
you
know,
I
am
a
member
of
the
senior
center.
I'm
the
only
person
on
the
console,
that's
old
enough
to
be
a
member
have.
T
D
T
I
always
do
he's
my
my
guy
that
keeps
me
out
of
trouble
in
the
kitchen.
D
All
right
and
we're
gonna
finish
up
tonight
with
cranston
community
grants,
which
looks
like
a
level
funded
item
here.
A
A
J
Q
Yes,
I
mean
they
send
in
a
request
to
us-
usually
quarterly-
sometimes
it
lags,
but
by
the
end
of
the
year,
they've
they've
received
everything
that
they've
requested.
R
They're
currently
running
it,
49.33
percent.
Q
A
Mr
chairman,
before
we
adjourn,
can
I
just
give
a
shout
out
to
nick
lima
and
steve
fryas,
who
sat
with
us
all
night
on
zoom,
I'm
sure
mr
lima's
working
on
his
budget
presentation
as
we
speak
so
good
job
nick.
D
Yeah,
our
next
budget
meeting
will
be
on
monday
april.
11Th
we'll
see
everybody.
Then
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
second,
all
those
in
favor
aye,
aye
good
night.
Everyone.