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From YouTube: April 10, 2023, Special Finance Committee Meeting
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April 10, 2023
Special Finance Committee Meeting
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A
Now.
The
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind,
of
course,
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
school
spending
on
the
capital
budget
and
that's
true.
If
you
go
over
to
the
the
school
total-
and
you
see-
47
million,
which
is
huge
amount,
but
even
in
the
non-school
capital
budget,
is
double
what
the
normal
non-school
budget
is
non-school
capital
budget.
A
So
it's
it's
that
and
I'm
I'm
sure
that
the
finance
people
here
from
the
city
can
explain
this
better
than
I
can,
but
just
because
you
have
a
capital
item
in
the
budget
this
year.
It
isn't
always
reflected
in
this.
This
year's
budget,
because
if
the
city
goes
out
to
bond,
in
other
words,
sells
bonds
borrows
money
that
takes
a
while.
So
if
they
went
out
to
bond
in
September
October
whatever
before
their
act,
interest
is
actually
being
paid.
A
It's
towards
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
or
not
even
in
the
fiscal
year,
so
the
large
is
67
million,
really
almost
68
million
in
total
Capital
spending
that's
being
proposed.
That's
not
going
to
show
up
as
a
interest
in
principle
much
until
future
years
and
these
bonds.
This
borrowing
is
their
20-year
bonds.
So.
A
That
adds
about,
depending
on
the
interest
rate,
it
adds
at
least
about
a
half
again.
So
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
project
becomes
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
project.
When
you
add
the
interest
into
the
cost
and
I
think
that
really
I,
what
I
would
hope
the
city
council
would
do
is
make
some
choices
about
what
what
is
important.
We
can't
do
everything
all
at
once
and
that's
really
what
this
capital
budget
I
think
tries
to
do.
A
It's
it's
a
building,
a
new
school,
very
expensive,
very
important,
but
then
it's
it's
fixing
the
pool
fixing
the
ice
rink
building,
putting
AstroTurf
on
the
Cranston
West
baseball
field,
there's
even
Capital
money
to
upgrade
baseball
fields
which
I
don't
really
think
is
a
capital
expense.
It's
something
that
rebuilding
a
pitcher's
mound
is
not
going
to
last
20
years
and
I.
Don't
think
we
should
be
paying
interest
for
20
years
to
rebuild
a
pitcher's
mound.
A
Another
item
that
I
would
just
ask
the
council
to
look
at
if
you
look
at
under
the
the
public
works
department,
there's
city-wide
infrastructure,
which
it's
a
storm
drains
and
Paving
streets,
and
it's
four
million
dollars.
Most
of
the
time
when
I
was
on
the
council,
that
was
one
million
dollars,
and
that
was
that
was
low.
The
Public
Works
director
said,
but
we
got
by
with
the
we
got
by
with
the
1
million,
and
then
it
jumped
to
4
million.
A
A
Yeah,
that's
what
I
I!
That's
really
what
I
have
to
say:
I
think
the
the
numbers
speak
for
themselves
and
we
just
can't
go
spending
70
million
dollars,
almost
70
million
dollars
on
Capital
expenditures
that
are
not
essential
and
I.
Think
most
of
us
would
agree
that
the
school
is
number
one,
and
maybe
the
school
committee
needs
to
be
talked
to
about
if
there's
some
things
that
could
be
toned
down
in
their
building
since
I
believe
that
Eden
Park
project
was
way
over
budget.
E
F
Evening,
councilman
I
wanted
to
start
briefly
just
by
saying
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
your
continued
support
of
the
library.
We've
had
a
really
successful
2022
moving
into
2023
library
is
at
about
85
percent
of
our
pre-pandemic
usage
of
2018
and
once
again
the
Cranston
Public
Library
was
the
highest
circulating
public
library
in
Rhode
Island
last
year,
with
over
640
000
items
loaned
out
to
library
users,
as
we
move
into
the
spring
and
into
the
summer
we're
getting
ready
for
the
summer
reading
program,
which
is
our
largest
program.
F
I
wanted
to
say,
the
the
library
Administration
has
been
working
very
hard
with
my
colleagues
around
the
state
to
achieve
full
funding
of
state
aid
to
libraries,
which
we
have
done
this
year.
With
the
council's
help,
the
council
passed
a
resolution
asking
the
general
assembly
to
fully
fund
stated
last
year.
B
B
That
line
item
is
staying
the
same
at
198
thousand
dollars.
The
the
question
I
have
is:
if
we
look
at
the
fit
of
at
the
current
fiscal
year,
it's
running
at
close
to
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand,
which
is
81
000
over
budget.
So
I'm
just
I'm
wondering
why
why
so
far
over
budget
and
is,
is
an
increase
necessary
for.
F
The
next
year,
so
no
the
the
increase
is
not
necessary
and
the
reason
why
that
that
is
over
budget
is
later
in
the
last
fiscal
year.
All
right.
Let's
just
go
you're
right,
I
should
say
the
state
passed
their
budget
in
in
the
end
of
June
and
they
actually
included
some
of
the
additional
state
that
I
mentioned,
but
that
had
been
that
was,
after
the
city
already
passed
the
budget.
F
B
The
the
next
question
is
five:
six:
zero,
zero,
two
books
in
care:
that's
going
up
five
thousand
dollars
to
what
140
000.
annualized
for
this
year.
It's
at
146
and
the
five-year
average
is
148,
so
it
just
a
I
think
you
would
mention
you,
you
got
everything
you
wanted.
So
are
you?
Are
you
happy
with
the
140
is?
Is
anything
additional
required
or
nope.
F
The
only
reason
those
line
items
have
been
been
a
little
higher
over
the
last
couple
of
years
is
during
the
pandemic.
We
weren't
able
to
spend
on
certain
mod
items
because
of
Staffing
levels,
our
part-time
line
Etc.
So
we
ended
up
moving
that
into
books.
We
could
always
use
more
money
for
books,
I'm,
not
going
to
say
that
you
know
we
couldn't,
but,
but
you
know
we're
happy
with
the
140.
That's
in
this
line,
I'm
in
this
budget.
F
F
B
G
G
F
That
I'm
aware
of
this
is
an
ordinance
that
was
passed
eight
years
ago
that
all
City
buildings
should
be
upgraded
by
a
10-year
time
frame,
so
I've
been
working
with
with
Chief
Warren
and
Deputy
Chiefs
of
sourcey,
and
there
was
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
there
was
no
State
money
available
for
this
project.
So
we
we
took
it
upon
ourselves
to
to
work
it
out
from
our
Reserve
fund.
G
F
Actually,
now
that
I
think
about
it,
it
might
not
even
be
ten
thousand
dollars.
It's
gonna
be
pretty
close
to
that
number.
But
the
reason
the
I'll
just
I'll
just
add
that
we
typically
have
a
small
amount
that
we
we
keep
just
in
case
things
get
accrued
into
the
fiscal
year
so
this
year.
Actually
there
was
a
an
extra
pay
period
for
health
coverage
that
we
had
not
forecasted
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
so
that
that's
probably
going
to
eat
up
the
rest
of
that
Surplus
to
cover
that
and.
G
F
That
it
is
not
the
the
102
000
number.
It
actually
is
a
number
that
spans
two
fiscal
years.
Last
year
there
was
some
incorrect
information
in
our
salary
schedule
that
was
accounted
for
with
with
step
increases.
So
in
that
fiscal
year
we
covered
that
those
funds
which
is
approximately
30
for
a
thousand
dollars
out
of
our
Reserve
fund,
so
this
year
that
that
money
is
in
there,
as
well
as
an
additional
amount
for
contractual
obligations
for
our
Union.
F
H
F
I
Thank
you
chairman,
thank
you
for
being
here
again
this
evening,
I
equal,
the
sentiment
of
President
Marino,
so
we
did
I
think
the
library
the
Queensland
Library
did
an
amazing
job.
So
everybody
should
recognize
that
my
kids
really
enjoy
going
there.
It's
always
a
pleasure
for
the
resources,
so
I
see
you
mentioned
for
books
and
care.
So
that's
when
we,
you
really
don't
need
more
books.
Is
that
correct?
No.
F
I
F
F
There
was
some
information
in
last
year's
budget
in
the
salary
schedule
that
that
did
not
reflect
some
of
the
salary
step
increases
for
my
for
my
staff,
so
that
money
was
paid
and
we
paid
it
out
of
the
library
Reserve
fund.
So
so
part
of
this
increase
34
000
of
it
reflects
that
in
money
being
actually
represented
in
the
budget,
and
the
remainder
of
it
is
a
contractual
obligation
that
we
that
we
had
in
there
as
well
snake.
G
F
It
came
to
the
Cranston
Public
Library
Association,
which
is
a
501c3
non-profit
that
exists
outside
of
the
library
that
they
they
raise
money
to
support
the
library.
The
friends
of
the
library
is
part
of
that
group,
so
that
money
is
at
is
that
the
association
and
they're
they're
spending
it
on
additional.
We
haven't
spent
it
all
once,
but
they've
been
spending
it
a
little
bit
each
year
to
help
support
programs
most
of
the
programs
that
we
have
at
the
library,
including
the
summer
reading
program.
F
F
There's
no
restriction
on
that
money,
but
with
the
the
mission
of
the
Cranston
Public
Library
Association,
is
to
is
to
support
the
library
with
funding
additional
to
any
funding
that
comes
from
the
city
and
state
through
appropriation.
So
it's
up
to
the
board
of
directors
of
the
cpoa
where
and
how
they
they
want
to
spend
those
funds
and.
F
G
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Director
I
can
attest
to
the
wonderful
services
at
the
library,
as
my
twins
love
going
there
every
weekend.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
But
my
question
is
this
extra
ten
thousand
dollars
for
the
online
resources
that
I
see
from
23
to
24?
Can
you
just
tell
me
what
that
is
what
new
resources
we're
getting.
F
K
F
If
you're
familiar
with
that
magazine,
they
have
an
online
version
and
we
added
that
last
year
or
actually
I
should
say
this
fiscal
year,
and
that
takes
up
probably
half
of
that
ten
thousand.
It's
been
it's
been
so
the
way
that
works
is
you
can
go
in
and
just
and
research
in
in
consumer
reports,
any
issue
that
they've
ever
printed
so
new
stuff
in
in
older,
older
things.
F
They
don't
they
actually
don't
certain
things
you
know
publish
very
often
so
they
might
have
like
the
best
refrigerator
list
every
like
four
years,
for
example.
So
that's
we
were.
That
was
a
service
that
we
had
gotten
a
lot
of
requests
for
so
we
added
that
and
the
rest
of
it
I
hope
we
hope
to
just
spend
on
additional
ebooks
and
digital
audiobooks.
Those
are
becoming
increasingly
popular.
F
K
What
typically
drives
the
revenue
at
the
library
because
they've
seen
the
actuals
in
you
know:
2018
95,
000,
2019,
75,
000
and
then
obviously
2020
was
a
pandemic
2021
and
then
you
know
where
it's
continued
to
be
about
41
500,
going
forward
so
I'm
just
curious,
I
see
it
says:
miscellaneous
lost
materials,
e-rate
does
that
include
room
rental?
What
what
is
driving
the
revenues
and
what
can
we
do
so
to
help
Drive
Revenue
yeah.
F
The
reason
why
that's
that
you've,
seen
a
a
continual
rapid
decrease
over
the
years
is
because
when
we
went
started
going
fine
free,
we
had
a
revenue
line
for
fines
and
when
we
first
proposed
going
fine
for
children's
and
team
materials,
mayor
Fung
added
twenty
thousand
dollars
into
our
Revenue
line
to
cover
the
The
Loft
revenue,
and
then
the
council
have
approved
that
and
then
the
same
thing.
When
we
went,
we
were
completely
fine
free.
F
We
we
backed
that
out
of
our
Revenue.
That
was
the
Prime
that
was
the
Prime
mover
of
that
Revenue
So.
Currently,
the
revenues
are
lost
materials,
room
rentals.
We
have
copy
machines
that
we
charge
for
so
that
that's
like
the
miscellaneous
stuff
miscellaneous
is
mostly
the
room
rental
that
kind
of
thing
photocop,
photocopiers,
printing
caustic.
So
it
will
charge
people
to
print.
You
know
paper,
so
the
41.5
number
has
been
there
for
I.
Think
at
least
two
years.
F
Maybe
three
and
we've
been
we've
been
consistently
hitting
that
and
that
that's
a
kind
of
a
realistic
number
for
US,
knowing
that
we're
that
our
revenue
for
fines
has
has
been
decreased
to
only
only
a
couple
thousand
at
this
point,
because
we
still
have
a
fines
on
a
few
items
that
are
mostly
tools
and
technology
that
we
loan
out.
So
so
that's
that's
where
that
number
is
derived
from
and
again
the
Big
Driver
had
been
heading
fines.
F
What
we
decided
to
remove
those
over
the
last
five
or
six
years,
because
we
saw
that
there
was
a
barrier
to
a
lot
of
families
using
the
library
when
we
had
gone
I
want
to
say
it
was
2016..
We
had
done
a
a
challenge,
a
couple
that
maybe
2015
the
library
leader
challenge.
Then
President
Obama
had
wanted
to
get
a
library
card
in
the
hands
of
every
student.
F
So
mayor,
Fong
and
superintendent,
nonamassi
myself
took
the
challenge
and
we
we
actually
got
really
close
to
getting
a
card
in
every
student's
hand
at
that
point.
But
we
noticed
that
there
was
at
least
2
200
students
that
cards
were
blocked
because
their
family
couldn't
afford
the
fine,
and
we
we
felt
that
having
that
Revenue
base
based
on
someone's
bad
behavior
would
really
rather
have
the
family
be
able
to
use.
The
library
was
was,
it
was,
was
more
important
than
having
that
that
increased
Revenue.
K
B
Thank
you
director,
seeing
no
other
questions
from
the
committee.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
with
any
comment
on
the
public
libraries
seeing
none
in
person?
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
that
have
any
comment
online?
There
is
no
public
comment
all
right.
Thank
you
director.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
group
will
be
group
1110
vision
of
Economic
Development
Ducey,
director
Paulino
here
this
evening.
Director
welcome.
L
Thank
you:
everyone,
member
of
the
Council
of
Franklin
polino,
director
of
economic
development
for
the
city
of
Cranston.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
brief
on
the
mission
of
the
other
division
of
Economic
Development
is
to
enhance
the
city
of
Cranston
quality
of
the
throughout
the
creation
and
preservation
of
healthy
business.
Apparently
we
only
have
one
staff,
which
is
myself.
L
B
L
M
M
B
H
H
All
right,
so
just
so
I
fully
understand
what
you're
saying
is
that
the
differential
that
you're
proposing
for
2024
budget
for
six
thousand
dollars
and
let's
my
page,
is
cut
off
and
50
something
dollars.
That's
to
pay,
in
addition
to
the
salary
of
the
the
communications
coordinator
and
the
executive
department
for
him
to
work
extra
hours
to
earn
that
six
thousand
or
is
it
just
an
increase
in
his
salary,
where
he.
H
M
H
L
L
H
L
H
M
We
had
a
meeting
the
other
day,
whereas
we've
discussed
this
that,
for
these
ribbon,
cutting
openings
reopenings
where
they
are
the
director
or
Zach,
would
speak
with
the
business
owner
to
ask
them.
If
they
would
like
to
invite
the
you
know,
Council
people,
whatever
people
they
would
like
represented,
they
call
the
mayor's
office
and
invite
the
mayor
and
we
figured
as
we're
not
we
should.
M
We
should
not
be
in
the
position
to
invite
people
to
crash
somebody
else's
party,
but
director
Paulino
is
instructed,
along
with
Zach,
to
convey
the
wishes
of
the
council
to
have
them
if
they
wish
to
be
invited
to
get
their
approval
before
before
they
take
the
liberty
of
doing
stuff.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
cleared
by
the
by
the
business
owner.
M
I
understand
you
correctly
kind
of
I
can't
speak
to
what
Masha
did
or
didn't
do
frankly
as
to
all
ribbon
cuttings
and
all
I'm,
not
quite
sure,
but
I.
Think
just
social,
a
common
etiquette
would
be
is
a
few.
Any
council
person
has
a
wedding
that
they
would
ask
someone
if
you
know
can
that
person
come
to
the
wedding
versus
inviting
that
person.
H
M
H
Week,
I'm
sorry
director
I'm,
going
to
interrupt
you
that
wasn't
my
question
and
I
wasn't
one
that
complained.
My
question
is
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
have
my
facts
correct.
You
stated
that
the
notification
process
has
changed
since
Marshall
left
and
if
I
understand
you
correctly,
you
said
that
you,
the
Administration,
has
taken
on
as
proper
business
etiquette
that
you
are
asking
the
business
owners
when
they're
doing
a
ribbon,
cutting
or
reopening
of
some
kind
we
are
economic
development
is
presenting
and
traditional
council
members
had
been
asked
to
go.
H
M
Your
statement
was
I
can't
answer
your
question,
because
you've
told
me
that
it
changed
from
what
Marsha
did
I'm
saying.
I
cannot
tell
you
what
Masha
did
versus
now.
I
can
only
tell
you
what
we're
doing
now
is
is
that
we
are
encouraging
the
business
owner
to
invite
whatever
Council
people
they
like,
whether
it's
for
Mr
paulino's
department
to
get
back
to
council
people
or
for
them
if
they
wish
to
contact
the
Council
people
themselves.
I
think
it's
kind
of
just
common
courtesy,
but
yes
guilty
of
asking
the
business
owner
permission.
First.
Yes,.
H
Still
speaking,
director
Moretti
I'm,
still
speaking
it
that's
unique
to
Cranston
it's
Unique
to
to
us
in
the
last
year.
If
that's
not
how
it
had
been
done
previously,
I'm
sure
director
Paulino,
you
were
there
and
you
know
what
Marcia
did.
She
was
part
of
your
department,
and
that
was
in
fact
the
case
before
so
we
can
all
attest
to
that.
D
My
question
was
going
to
be
to
director
Paulino
as
to
what
the
procedure
was
to
invite
the
council
people
to
the
ribbon
cuttings,
because
I
haven't
been
invited
to
one
in
at
least
eight
months.
That
I
can
think
of.
Okay
and
I
refuse
to
believe
that
the
business
owners
do
not
want
the
council
people
to
be
at
their
ribbon
cuttings,
whether
whether
you
say
that's
the
fact
or
not,
I
have
a
problem
believing
it
so
I
would
like
to
see.
D
M
I
This
same
subject,
it
just
make
me
laugh
to
it
what
it
is
it's
just
you
want
certain
Council
to
be
there.
So
then
do
just
what
it
is.
Okay,
I
would
say
the
waiting,
because
right
here
in
my
world
has
been
a
lot
of
doing,
cutting
and
I
saw
them.
I
never
been
invited
not
once
since
I
don't
know
when
and
how
I
would
like
to
know
how
to
really
talk
to
the
business
or
not
to
say
hey.
Do
you
want
Council
and
instrument
come
to
you?
B
I
I
L
I
M
M
I
K
L
K
Director
Paulino
I
know
that
you
know
there
are
a
variety
of
Grants
through
Commerce
that
don't
essentially
flow
through
the
city,
but
in
speaking
to
people
at
the
Commerce
department.
They
have
said
that
you
are
a
big
promoter
of
those
grants
to
help
the
businesses
in
Cranston,
even
though
the
money
is
coming
from
Rhode,
Island,
Commerce
I
think
that's
very
important
will
Zach
be
able
to
help
you
with
that,
because
I
don't
know
how
you
can
be
no
matter
how
much
money
you
were
paid.
L
Yes,
Sac
has
been
helping
us,
also
he's
a
journalist,
so
we
are
working
close
with
Lisa
androsia
on
the
grant.
Writing
so
far,
we
put
in
three
grand
for
the
city
and
we're
looking
at
the
new
program.
That's
coming
out
for
the
state,
which
is
the
the
ventilation
program
and
this
in
the
third
round
of
the
Take
It
Outside,
which
we
applied
for
250
000
to
the
city.
K
Excellent
and
the
the
point
that
councilman
Donegan
brought
up
about
the
the
go
Providence
if
those
if
they
are
funded
through
arpa
I
assume,
will
someone
still
report
to
you
because
in
the
last
year,
the
first
time
that
we
spoke
to
that
Association
was
like
in
the
last
month
when
they
came
here
we
didn't
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
knew.
There
was
a
go
Cranston
website
there.
They
were
doing
some
kind
of
pizza
week
and
I
know.
Councilwoman
Jermaine
was
very
interested
in
it.
K
K
L
K
And
just
to
the
the
point
of
the
ribbon
cuttings
director
Paulino,
if
someone
brings
a
ribbon
cutting
to
you,
does
that?
Does
that
ever
happen?
Does
this
do
Council
people
say
hey,
there's
a
business
opening
here's
the
contact
information?
Is
that
why
they
could
perhaps
know
about
the
ribbon,
cutting
that
no
one
else
knows
about?
Yes,.
L
As
you
know,
from
the
council
person
from
the
award,
if
there's
a
business
opening
there,
they
will
go
to
the
console
person
and
they'll
contact
me
and
we
set
it
up
just
so
on
the
ribbon,
cutting
just
to
get
it
I'm
more
than
more
than
willing
to
notified
all
the
console
person.
I
know,
Marcia
was
doing
the
ribbon,
cutting
she
had
it
down
and
she
would
do
the
whole
thing
and
but
I'm
willing
to
every
time
that
we
have
a
concert
person.
L
You
know
if
I
will
invite
you
know
try
to,
but
it's
it's
a
lot
of
work,
putting
together
the
ribbon,
cutting
and
and
making
sure
that
the
major
attends
and
making
sure
the
council
person
attend,
because
it's
during
the
day,
a
lot
of
the
ribbon
cutting
we
are
doing
is
during
the
week
from
you
know,
from
10
to
3
o'clock,
and
you
know
I
do
invite.
You
know
the
council
person
if
they
can
attend.
I
have
no
issue
with
that.
H
L
H
B
B
I
L
M
The
answer
is
he
Zach,
the
Luke
will
make
him
safe
available
as
necessary
and
we'll
see
how
that
works
again.
We're
trying
to
watch
City
dollars
and
we
think
we
can
get
by
this
way,
as
I
said
before,
every
Department
can
create
very
sound
rationale
for
more
Personnel.
It's
it's
at
what
point
do
we
have
to
get
by?
As
the
mayor
said,
I
think
in
his
speech.
They
have
to
do
more
with
less
and
here's
a
perfect
example.
I.
M
Just
on
this
department,
we're
requesting
a
one,
two-thirds
of
one
percent
increase
to
the
Department
and
pardon
me
getting
over
a
cold
and,
as
you
can
see,
what
we're
doing
other
departments
we're
kind
of
taking
a
little
haircut
as
where
we
possibly
can
in
trimming
the
department.
As
as
in
terms
of
you
know,
some
of
the
spending
like
the
office
supplies
and
the
public
observances
Etc
as
we're
doing
with
every
Department
in
the
city
and
that's
why
we're
putting
it
for
a
0.66
percent
increase.
M
B
D
D
M
M
Another
third
is
assist
in
constituent
Affairs,
because
we
only
have
one
person
there
and
some
of
the
issues
can
get
deeper
into
the
Departments
and
obviously
the
council
people
requests
and
certainly
the
the
constituents-
and,
thirdly,
is
assist
with
the
mayor's
schedule
and
be
the
advanced
person
for
the
mayor
there's
more
to
it,
but
that
I
guess
that
would
be
a
quick
synopsis
as
the
fundamental
role.
Okay,.
D
N
D
D
K
M
M
Until
we're
stretched,
but
we
feel
like
we're
getting
to
that
point,
we
are,
we
do
feel
as
we're
at
that
point
and
that
person
could
also
help
as
a
utility
person,
as
you
hear,
or
every
department
is
being
stretched
and
that's
another
part
of
why
we
feel
it's
Philly
is.
Is
the
right
right
thing
to
do.
K
M
K
And
could
you
tell
us
who
the
liaison
to
the
council
is?
Is
that
you
because
you're
always
here?
Thank
you,
but
is
it
supposed
to
be
you
because
we
were
one
of
these
positions
were
going
to
be
the
liaison
to
the
console
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
directing
our
needs
to
the
wrong
person
and
over
overdoing
it.
M
Yeah,
yes,
I
would
be
the
primary
contact.
Certainly
as
as
you
know,
Steve
craddick
is
actually
coming
in
a
couple
of
days
a
week
to
help
us
out
where
so
he
would
be
a
a
a
key
person
too.
So
myself
or
Steve,
if
certainly
I,
would
depends
on
the
complexity
of
the
issue,
how
pervasive
it
might
be
into
the
Departments.
If
you
really
need
special
attention.
Certainly
I
encourage
you
to
contact
me.
K
M
K
M
What
he's
done
he
at
the
senior
center?
He
does
a
a
fair
amount
of
work.
He
would
be
in
his
office
at
his
desk,
so
he's
using
a
lot
of
his
desk.
Tell
him
if
he
will,
where
he's
been
at
the
senior
center
in
in
coming
over.
We
see
this
as
a
temporary
thing.
Frankly,
but
yeah
he's
he's
stretched
a
bit
and
he
said
just
about
every
day.
You
know,
but
he
does.
H
H
J
H
J
H
Okay,
all
right
yeah.
If
you
can
get
me
that
department
number
that'd
be
great
because
I
know
with
it
not
being
listed
here,
it
has
to
be
accounted
for
somewhere
and
I.
Don't
didn't
want
to
make
assumptions
as
to
it
being
included
in
the
DPW
like
Highway
Fleet
Department,
whatever
it's
called.
So,
if
you
can,
let
me
know
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you.
I'm
all
set.
I
I
M
M
M
I
M
B
N
B
Be
solicitor
the
one
question
I
have
is
regarding
outside
Legal
Services
line.
52313
I
know
that
you
know
from
day
one
you've
you've
said
that
a
priority
or
emphasis
on
doing
as
much
in-house
as
possible
to
try
and
reduce
the
outside
fees
and-
and
it's
reflected
in
the
current
fiscal
years
projection
at
you
know,
373
000.
B
O
It
is
thank
you
Mr
Lima.
It
is
the
equivalent
of
of
a
looking
through
a
crystal
ball.
Unfortunately,
my
department,
unlike
any
other
department
in
the
city,
I,
don't
know
where
anything
is
going
to
be
tomorrow,
based
on
the
fact
that
the
city
is
self-insured
in
that
everything
regarding
legal
representation
and
I'll,
leave
it
as
basic
as
that
comes
through
the
department.
So
if
we
have
a
quiet
six
months,
obviously
the
number
can
go
down.
O
That
number
could
jump
up
in
as
a
result
of
a
car
accident
that
might
happen
five
minutes
from
now
so
I'm
doing
my
best
to
keep
stuff
in-house,
as
I
said,
I
would
last
year
and
I
am
trying
to
keep
that
number
down
I'm,
relying
on
the
the
lack
of
a
better
term,
in-house
solicitors
and
assigning
them
work
that
that
may
be
in
years,
past
they've
gone
to
outside
legal
counsel,
but
again
I'm
doing
my
best
to
keep
it
within
that
budget
and
I
hope.
I
do
but
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
H
H
My
other
question
is
while
councilman
Donegan
addressed
the
outside
Legal
Services
portion.
I
also
know
from
from
past
discussion
that
and
with
other
department
heads
as
well,
that
there
are
legal
expenses
that
are
incurred
with
various
departments
in
the
city.
Do
you
know
specifically,
which
departments
are
utilizing?
Other
Legal
Services.
O
H
For
for
Budget
purposes
as
an
actual
line
item
and
an
expenditure
for
each
department
in
the
legal
department
for
you,
obviously,
we
have
the
outside
legal
service
fees
and,
for
example,
claims
or
or
tax
assessors
of
a
tax
collection.
They
have
a
an
individual
expenditure
for
legal
fees,
and
so
my
point
is
my
question:
is
how
many
other
departments?
Besides
just
the
law
department,
has
an
expenditure
for
Legal.
O
B
O
K
Okay,
I
think
that's
like
what
I'm
saying.
Basically,
we
don't
know
how
much
it
is
because
it's
not
in
your
budget,
so
is
it
just
I,
guess
I'm
wondering
if
it's
under
departmental
expenses
and
it's
lumped
into
departmental
expenses
or
if
there
should
be
separate
lines
that
say
legal
within
a
department
that
is
separate
from
your
department.
J
If
I
just
may
answer
that,
as
the
council
president
stated
speaking
specifically
to
last
week,
that
being
treasury,
it
was
classified
I
think
as
personal
services
Professional
Services.
Thank
you
council
president.
So
generally
it's
in
that
type
of
I'll
call
it
an
object
code
by
you
know
the
five
digit
number,
the
expense
number
that
starts
with
the
five.
That's
where
you'll
see
it,
but
it's
it's
generally
it
it's
not
like
the
solicit
is
account
where
he
has
one
that
specifically
says
outside
Legal
Services.
K
O
O
Some
are
product
firms
that
are
part
of
the
the
stipend
of
this
of
this
within
the
budget,
in
other
words,
I
have
flat
fees
that
I'm
trying
to
lean
on
those
individuals
to
do
work
rather
than
send
it
outside,
and
have
it
go
up
on
an
hourly
basis.
Sometimes
those
hourly
bases,
as
as
members
can
know,
can
run
up
to
350
to
400
per
hour,
so
I'm
doing
what
I
can
to
keep
that
in
in-house,
when
I
can.
K
O
Kind
of
goes
into
claims
and
I
can
let
Mr
zavellis
talk
about
that.
Unfortunately,
that's
a
line
item
that
I
think
would
probably
be
best,
be
updated
if
you
will
for
the
for
the
term
of
the
budget,
because
it
indicates
settlements,
but
the
reality
is
it
kind
of
goes
through
claims
and
it
goes
to
a
different
department.
So
I
guess
this
is
like
I'll
speak
to
that
yeah.
That's
an
extent
I'm
on
that
and
it's
coming
up
on
the
next
discussion.
K
O
O
J
Probably
May
counselor
in
terms
of
recognizing
the
expenditures
year
to
date,
as
the
esteemed
counselor
Malaya
said,
he's
been
very
conservative
on
his
expenditures,
recognizing
where
they
were
through
the
course
of
this
fiscal
year
that
also
recognizing
the
good
work
he's
done
that
precipitated
the
reduction
from
the
year-to-year
that
being
the
year-to-date
expenditure
in
FY
23.
Sorry
thank.
I
Thank
you.
My
question.
Elizabeth
councilman
Wednesday
a
little
go
over
my
question,
but
I
went
to
Willie
command
you
because
from
869
379
dollars
in
2018
to
four
hundred
thousand
and
twenty
three
and
it
stayed
the
same
for
24.
That's
really
significantly
a
decrease
and
that's
really
make
a
difference.
So
I
I
want
to
to
comment
you
for
that
and
also
keep
doing
what
you're
doing
and
try
to
find
a
better
way
to
really
decrease
it.
So
that's
good!
That's
good
work.
I
I
want
to
mention
that
I
have
another
question
about
the
settlement.
So
that's
for
me.
It's
like
unpredictable
and
also
when
you
know
what
you
have
by
now.
What
litigation
you
have
you
can
foresee,
maybe
things
that
will
happen
so
when
I
see
Zero
that
make
me
like
something
just
doesn't
right.
So
it's
like
you
have
nothing
now
right,
even
though,
but
you
don't
know
what
could
happen
from
now
on
to
so
you
better
be
prepared
proactively.
I
O
Yeah
councilman
councilwoman
Jermaine
there
again
settlements
are
I,
appreciate,
Big,
Time
words
and
I
appreciate
it
like,
like
I,
said
it's
kind
of
like
a
crystal
ball.
Unfortunately,
and
we
are
trying
to
my
department,
myself,
Deputy
Ross
and
the
rest
of
my
department
trying
to
keep
track
of
the
cases
that
and
I
can't
talk
publicly.
Obviously,
but
the
cases
I
know
that
are
are
in
my
office
and
in
a
file
and
in
that
are
pending
and
we
do
try
to
assign
some
kind
of
value
to
each
of
those
cases
and
I
work.
O
There
are
maybe
one
or
two
that
are
out
there,
that
kind
of
maybe
we
have
our
eye
on
if
you
will,
but
as
the
as
the
council
is
aware,
Sometimes
some
things
have
come
have
been
picked
up
and
we've
had
to
to
step
forward
on
those,
but
I
am
trying
to
keep
my
eye
on
the
on
the
settlement.
So
this
just
so.
You
know
that
line
item
doesn't
necessarily
Encompass
everything
that
we're
talking
about,
because
it's
different
departments,
okay,.
C
I
A
little
bit,
my
other
question
is
I.
Think
Council
ones
will
also
talking
about
that.
It's
office,
Surprise
and
expensive,
so
I
see
a
big
I,
don't
know
discrepancies,
I
would
say
for
three
prior
years:
2018
1920
it
was
zero
and
then
2021
77
dollars
and
then
the
big
jump
in
2022
to
754
dollars
and
then
2023
zero.
So
I'm
like
what
is
going
on
in
this
like
item
here
and
then
for
24,
it's
800,
so
I
feel
like
that.
O
Think
of
letterhead
that
was
printed
up.
You
know
maybe
getting
calculated
within
office
supplies
opposed
to
administrative,
legal
expenses,
because
they're
kind
of
the
same
thing.
If
I
need
a
few
reams
of
letterhead
and
envelopes,
it
might
have
gone
through
the
office
expenses
as
opposed
to
supplies
rather
than
legal
expense,
they're
kind
of
they're
kind
of
one
in
the
same
councilworms
you
mean,
and
they
don't
you
know,
one
could
fit
either
item
and
I.
Think
Mr
zadellas
could
probably
address
that
more
properly.
O
M
If
I
can
underscore
Mr
Malay
was
a
bit
understated
and
what
he's
saying
is
relying
upon
legal
work
instead
of
going
to
the
outside
he's
relying
a
lot
more,
we
believe
than
in
the
past
on
our
in-house
people.
Those
stipend
individuals
he's
been
receiving
a
lot
of
pressure
from
the
administration
towards
the
budget
and
he's
done
a
great
job
in
saying
himself
and
and
the
members
of
his
of
his
staff,
part-time
staff
to
do
so
and
versus
just
picking
up
the
phone
and
calling
friends
and
family
to
take
care
of
things.
B
J
H
J
H
J
O
I
apologize
very
the
the
smaller
claims,
the
mailboxes,
the
property
damage
stuff
that
comes
regularly
before
the
claims
committee.
That's
reviewed
in
my
understanding,
that's
reviewed
by
Miss,
basso
and-
and
this
line
item
compensates
Miss
basso
for
that
for
the
for
that
work.
If
something
continues
on
further
through
my
office,
she
is
compensated
as
well.
If
it's
something
that
gets
to
me.
K
O
K
We
have
an
issue
in
claims
in
which
we
do
not
want
to
vote
on
it.
The
it's
usually
attorney
verdecia
is
there
and
we
elect
to
send
something
to
the
solicitor's
office
to
get
reviewed
beyond
the
capacity
that
we
have
within
the
room.
So
does
that
automatically
go
to
this
outside
legal
council
that
you
just
named,
or
does
it
come
to
you
to
review.
O
O
If
it's
something
that
is
not
within
the
realm
of
claims,
whether
it
be
a
larger
amount
of
warranted
or
there's
a
question
of
liability
or
any
number
of
individual
issues,
and
then
it
comes
to
my
office
and
then
it
will
be
further
so
maybe
before
it
gets
to
and
then
there's
obviously
multiple
steps
before
anyone
can
sue
the
city.
They
need
to
notify
the
council
and
so
forth,
but
there
are
claims
that
have
submitted
to
the
solicitor's
office
that
may
or
may
not
get
deployed
any
longer.
K
O
But
the
individual
provided
documentation
ended
up
to
my
office,
where
the
Box,
the
value
of
the
mailbox,
was
Far
exceeding
the
value
of
the
claim
that
was
assigned
by
claims.
It
was
a
custom
mailbox.
He
had
this
individual
had
the
receipts,
they
wanted
all
the
documentation
to
show
what
they
paid
for
the
mailbox
and
liability
was
not
involved,
or
certainly
wasn't,
a
defense
for
the
city.
O
We
mowed
it
down
with
a
cloud
product
that
better
so
a
plow
truck
during
a
snowstorm
had
hit
the
Box
whether
or
not
it
was
done
or
could
have
been
avoided
as
one
you
know,
a
separate
conversation
altogether,
but
the
mailbox
had
been
completely
destroyed
by
a
City
plow
truck,
and
so
this
goes
back
a
two
years
ago
it
was
reviewed.
It
was
reviewed
by
claims
I'm
assuming
by
Miss
basil
at
the
time
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not
assigning
anything.
O
K
It
perhaps
make
sense
to
give
you
more
control
over
that
funding
that,
rather
than
send
it
to
this
outside
attorney,
you
could
just
go
to
your
office.
You
can
decide
if
it
needs
this
outside
attorney,
because
we
also
we
get
a
legal
report
every
month,
but
we
don't
get
that
attorney
on
there
as
far
as
I
know.
So
we
don't
know
what
they're
billing
is
directors
idealists
that
they
bill
every
month.
A
different
amount
which
I
am
not
claiming
is
wrong.
We
just
we
don't
see
it
so
I
would.
K
O
Yeah,
it
could
certainly
what
you're
saying
makes
100
sense
leader
in
Julie,
the
Departments
I
would
I
guess.
I
could
only
request
that
they
include
me
on
any
type
of
of
legal
type
of
claim,
because
it
does
technically
fall
under
the
law
Department
up
until
now,
no
I
have
not
I,
don't
I,
don't
necessarily
receive
that
it
comes
through
finance
and
goes
through
Mr
zizelo's
office
and
Miss
IBO
in.
If
the
world
was
absolutely
perfect.
Yes,
it
would
be.
O
It
would
be
good
if
everything
kind
of
came
through
my
department,
not
from
a
control
standpoint
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination,
but
just
much
more
to
know
what
is
being
expended.
The
city
expenditures
that
fall
under
legal
and
those
would
include
insurance
claims.
So
that's,
that's
all
just
to
keep
everyone
on
the
same
page.
I
think
that
but
separate
conversation
so.
J
To
answer
your
question
directly
is
prior
to
payment,
because
what
we're
getting
is,
at
the
back
end
from
attorney
basso,
we
can,
at
the
front
end
coordinate
with
the
the
solicitor's
office
on
charges
being
considered
going
out
to
the
outside
Council
before
engaging
that
service.
You
know
that
service
at
the
claims
committee
level.
K
Okay,
I
think
I
mean
that
would
satisfy
me.
I,
don't
know
about
everyone
else,
but
it
just
makes
sense
that
it
goes
to
solicitor.
So
they
can
monitor
that
and
perhaps
for
it
to
be
included
in
the
legal
payments
document
that
we
get
every
month.
I
think
that
would
maybe
help
with
transparency
and
make
everyone
a
little
happier.
D
D
You
2021
the
league
line
five,
two
three
one:
two
legal
fees
outside
service.
It
was
a
hundred
and
sixty
eight
thousand
six
hundred
and
twelve
dollars.
So
how
do
we
assure
ourselves
at
a
claims
meeting
when
we're
making
recommendations
to
be
furthest
to
claim
to
outside
attorney
or
whatever
we?
It
is
that
we
vote
on.
How
do
we
assure
ourselves
that
we
don't
make
a
mistake
and
let
that
cost
us
168
612
dollars
again,
because
obviously
it
happened
in
2021
before
we
were
around.
J
Through
the
chant
of
the
counselor,
looking
at
that
Trend
that
we
see
21
was
a
spike
I,
don't
know,
what's
in
the
detail
behind
FY
21.
So
before
I
answer
your
question,
let
me
go
and
see
if
that
was
not
a
misclassification
on
using
that
account.
I
can't
say
that,
but
that's
something
that
warrants
a
response,
that
what
exactly
is
in
that
168
and
I
was
not
prepared
for
that
type
of
question.
But
we
can
get
that
information
rather
easily
sure.
N
K
Two
councilman
Ferry's
point
I:
think
that
running
everything
through
the
solicitor's
office
could
alleviate
that
that
problem.
We
won't
be
asking
that
question,
because
we
can
ask
the
solicitor
and
he'll
be
able
to
answer
it
because
he
seems
to
have
a
farm
grasp
on
what's
happening
in
his
own
office
and.
J
If
I
may,
procedurally
just
getting
them
presenting
it
to
the
Law
Department
first
ensuring
before
anything's
assigned
out,
because
there
are
other
things
that
you
know
other
types
of
cases
that
I
can
say
it
appears
that
attorney
basso
was
working
on.
But
I
can
say
with
no
uncertain
terms
that
we'll
check
before
anything
gets
assigned
out
to
Attorney
Ben.
So
we
make
sure
that
the
law
department
is
is
in
elope
and
in
terms
of
signing
off
on
any
payment.
K
O
I,
don't
think
anyone
is
internally
doing
legal
work.
If
that's
the
question,
I
think
that's
what
you're
getting
to
no
I.
Don't
think
that
that
is
but
I
I
do
think
that
it
needs
to
be
streamlined,
a
little
better,
where
departments
that
do
have
Legal
Services
being
utilized
and
I'm,
not
criticizing
the
legal
services
by
any
stretch,
but,
for
instance,
the
Law
Department
I
mean
the
the
library
I
was
unaware
that
they
have
outside
legal
counsel
to
until
it
was
raised
at
this
meeting
to
be
quite
Frank
with
you.
O
Okay
claims
I
was
aware
of
when
another
example
would
be
Bond
counsel
I
have
nothing
to
do
with
Bond
Council,
even
though
it's
actually
a
legal
service
and
it's
provided,
but
that
a
lot
of
that
is
due
to
how
they
are
paid.
But
it's
still
something
that
falls
within
the
law,
department
and
I
feel
as
though
I
should
at
least
be
able
to
give
you
an
answer
and
speaking
with
Mrs
Dallas
and
say
hey.
J
J
G
Pleasure
just
one
general
question:
based
on
the
current
budget,
we
funded
a
one-time
funds
for
the
claims
to
clear
up
previous
claims
with
Opera
funds
of
one
million
dollars,
and
then
we
add
the
consistent
budget
number
of
1.2
million.
The
current
claims
is
running
at
about
1.1.
Is
it
fair
to
assume
or
fair
to
say
that
the
end
of
this
budget
period
that
the
claims
fund
balance
will
not
be
negative,
would
at
least
be
carrying
some
positive
forward.
E
J
You
know
if
I,
if
we
could
sit
down,
that's
yeah
if
we
could
get
you
a
projection,
because,
as
attorney
Malay
was
speaking
to
they've,
compiled
a
list
of
claims
against
the
city
which
have
not
been
settled,
which
we
are
going
through
looking
at
that
the
potential
liability
of
fixed
every
claim.
So
until
we,
you
know
you're
asking
for
a
projection,
that's
yeah.
G
I
I
I
and
then
what,
when
we
talk
about
silicone
here
and
then
for
24
for
23
is
2500.,
so
I'm
I'm,
taking
two
big
numbers
here
you
know
and
then
for
24
is
projected
75
000..
So
I
would
like
a
little
bit
clarification.
What
happened?
What
is
like
when
we
say
City
claims
what
it
is
it,
including
the
all
Department
that
has
the
item
when
they
have
claims
or
all
the
expensive
that
occurred
within
the
the
city.
I
J
J
So,
in
terms
of
a
a
budget
of
2500
for
City
claims,
you
are
correct
that
for
FY
23,
that
line
item
was
budgeted
for
2500.,
but
through
February,
with
the
supplemental
information
that
I
provided
tonight
and
sent
out,
we
have
spent
through
February
34
000
for
City
claims,
so
the
actual
expense
that
we
are
experiencing
this
fiscal
year
is
above
the
2500
that
was
budgeted.
I
can't
speak
to
how
that
2500
dollars
was
was
derived
allocated
because
it
preceded
my.
I
Okay,
so
that
that's
like
Julie,
that's
my
attention
that
has
a
lot
I,
don't
know
what
happened?
Okay,
so
my
other
question
is
in
the
claimer
outside
Lima
outside,
so
we
have
City
claims
we
have
claim
outside
so
so
I
mean
that
when
we
have
claima
outside
that's
people
who
we
pay
right.
So
this
one
in
20.
J
I
J
I
J
And
what
we
were
observing
is
for
that
particular
line
item.
The
budget
amount
for
FY
23
was
260
000
through
the
end
of
February.
We
were
already
at
184
000,
so
that
led
to
our
projection
to
recommend
reallocating
5000
from
a
different
line
item
up
to
that
claims
account
because,
if
I
just
made
between
the
two
years,
the
bottom
line
is
the
exact
same,
a
million
two
being
funded
into
the
claims
account.
J
I
I
I
You,
yes,
so
earlier
in
the
Law
Department,
there
was
Zero
for
certain
events.
So
now
we
are
in
claim
committee.
So
there
is
a
settlement
that
holds
200
000..
So
my
question
is
how
we
separate
is
that
the
law
department
does
not
have
oversee
of
this
part.
It's
something
separate
how
they
handle
that
here.
J
J
Avail,
should
he,
in
his
his
Litany
of
cases,
choose
to
just
you
know,
proceed
with
a
settlement
of
a
case
that
is
for
no
better
term.
In
my
mind,
proceeds
that
are
assigned
to
in
this
account
that
are
assigned
to
attorney
Malay
in
the
law
department.
So
this
is
a
large
case.
That's
the
funding
source.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
want
to
say
sometime
in
the
last
month.
There
was
a
settlement
of
a
case.
J
J
I
Now
my
question
is,
though,
I
know
when
we
have
small,
you
know
claim
we
we
paid
it
out
of
the
committee
and
then
when
we
have
something
that
is
big.
We
say
we
send
this
to
solicitors
office.
How
now,
when
it's
like
I,
don't
know
it's
the
procedure
or
if
the
law
office
has
something
like
that
is
big.
He
come
to
to
to
this
I.
Don't
know
just
just
enlighten
me
through
the.
J
In
the
counselor,
in
terms
of
what
I
will
refer
to
as
an
appropriation,
a
budgeted
line
item
that
attorney
Malay
would
need
to
access
to
make
a
settlement.
This
particular
line
item
200
000
for
next
year
is
what
he
would
have
at
his
Avail
to
settle
one
of
his
cases
that
you
know
one
of
the
suits
against
us.
E
E
E
J
I
O
I
O
G
Demand:
okay,
just
to
try
to
simplify
this.
The
city
is
self-insured.
We
cannot
quantify
our
claims
by
a
deductible
so
in
years
that
we
have
no
claims,
there's
less
money
expended
the
years
that
we
have
more
claims,
there's
more
money
expenditures
there
to
the
best
of
their
knowledge,
they're,
making
their
best
estimate
on
what
they
feel,
what
claims
their
in-house
will
be
paid.
But
it's
never
going
to
be
a
true
assessment.
G
I
Okay,
thank
you.
My
last
question
is
about
that's
something
that
is
eliminated,
so
I
would
like
to
know
just
the
narrative
behind
it.
So
what
would
be
the
question
might
be
answered
before,
but
salary
schedule
51110,
so
I
see
2018.
We
had
this.
It
is
86
000,
but
it
has
been
zero
for
all
those
years.
What
explained
that
I
know.
J
Through
the
through
the
the
chair
to
the
counselor
I'm,
going
to
make
an
assumption,
I,
don't
like
doing
this
back
in
2018,
there
was
a
body
assigned
to
the
claims
committee.
That's
all
like
you
know,
because
if
you
notice
not
only
is
there
a
dollar
value
for
salaries
but
they're
all
withholdings
payroll,
withholding
salt
I'm
going
to
make
an
assumption
back
in
2018,
there
was
a
physical
body
staff.
Member
lawyer,
I,
don't
know
a
sign
of
claims
committee,
but
that's
an
assumption
based
on
what
I'm
seeing
there
so.
G
If
I
recall
going
back
I
believe
at
the
time,
what
had
happened
was
is
that
the
claims
were
segregated
and
then
removed
under
the
finance
department
and
the
person
who
was
in
claims
split
the
job
between
helping
this
Director
of
Finance
and
the
claims
I
think
it
was
just
a
unilateral
move
to
utilize
that
person
in
a
different
department.
Okay,.
N
G
M
I'll,
be
quick,
I
feel
obligated
to
go
back
to
Mr
demaio's
question
about
I.
Believe
you
have
the
question
about
the
that
inherited
claim
shortfall
where
we
caught
up
I
gave
you
a
simple
answer,
said:
yes,
I
stand
by
that
I'll
stand
by
that
more
like
in
an
accounting
sense,
as
you
know,
for
any
claims
that
may
be
reasonably
estimated
and
probable
of
occurring.
The
answer
is
yes,
so
the
whatever
you
don't
know
what
arises
in
the
future,
but
from
accounting
sense.
The
answer
is
yes.
That
way,
the
books
are
properly
reflected.
M
G
Only
main
reason
for
the
question,
because
I'll
probably
ask
it
what
the
other
one-time
funding
is
to
show
that
this
Administration
rectified
issues
that
were
carried
forward
and
now
we're
going
forward
with
a
clean
slate
and
now
we're
dealing
with.
What's
in
the
budget,
not
what's
coming
from
the
past.
M
G
H
Particularly
the
insurance
premium
for
buildings
properties,
that's
tracking
high
and
there's
an
increase
there,
and
my
question
is:
when
are
we
paying
the
premium
like?
When
is
the
policy
you
know
fall
in
the
in
the
year
and
is
that
affecting
the
number?
Because
I
would
assume
it's
a
set
policy?
You
know
what
the.
F
J
Again
through
the
chair
to
the
the
council
president,
the
October
I
came
back
November
we
in
the
month
of
November
we
got
quotes
in
for
building
insurance
for
the
and
I.
Don't
remember
the
term
of
the
policy
period,
but
I
can
say
that
the
quotes
came
in
and
were
due
immediately
in
terms
of
building
the
building
insurance
which
which
you're
predominantly
looking
at
on
the
account
50754
and
I,
cannot
remember
that
period
runs
on
a
fiscal
year
basis,
I,
don't
think
it
does,
but
it's
an
annual
premium
and
our
claims
experience.
J
B
J
That's
augmenting
HR
Personnel
type
issues
down
within
the
department,
so
there
are
two
part-time
positions
assigned
to
this
budgeted
line
item.
As
you
said,
the
greeter
and
yeah
okay
I'm.
Sorry,
let
me
rephrase
it
the
greeter,
slash
security
and
a
part-time
person
augmenting
tasks
in
the
in
the
Personnel
Department.
Okay,.
H
H
And
I
know
there
was
mentioned
the
other
position
being
the
the
greeter
he's
backslash
security
or
part
security
you
had
mentioned,
but
let's
make
sure
we're
all.
On
the
same
page.
We
have
a
person
under
Personnel,
that's
just
a
greeter,
and
then
we
have
separate,
apart
from
that
part-time
person,
an
actual
police
officer
that
is
not
part
of
this
Personnel
budget.
That's
actual
security
am
I,
correct.
J
H
J
Yeah
and
but
if
I
may,
in
terms
of
monitoring
the
cameras
in
in
you
know
the
work,
that's
done
by
the
police
officer,
you
know
whether
it
be
the
police
officer
has
a
day
off
or
there's
a
multitude
of
reasons
to
backfill.
You
know
the
greed
or
slash
security,
but
yes,
it's
more
than
you
know.
There
are
functions,
including
watching
the
cameras
that
the
part-time
person
does
do
in
the
absence
of
the
police
officer.
H
J
K
Thank
you.
I
just
have
a
question
with
the
increase
in
the
salary
schedule,
whose
I
only
see
two
people
listed
in
Personnel
so
who
but
an
increase
or
did
that
move
from
you
know
the
difference
that
went
down
and
went
down
in
part-time
help.
It
seems
like
it
same.
Amount
went
up
in
the
salary
schedule,
so
is.
Is
that
what
happened.
M
What
it
is
is
less
Reliance.
There
was
a
first
of
all,
as
you
see
it's
a
420
Department
increase
of
0.2
percent,
so
realizing
the
savings
from
that
part-time
help
and
making
the
rate
for
the
clerk.
Given
the
confidential
nature
of
that
position
to
be
of
a
clerk
senior
clerk
type
level
before
it
was
just
a
just,
a
ridiculous
pay.