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Description
February 16, 2023
Special City Council
Public Works Committee
A
B
A
On
the
agenda
this
evening
is
one
single
item
that
we
will
be
having
executive
session
on
as
noted
pursuant
to
Rhode
Island
general
laws
of
42-46-5
subsection,
a
subsection
2
collective
bargaining
negotiations
on
the
ibpo
local
union
301
fiscal
year,
July
1
2023
to
June
30
2026.
I'd
ask
for
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session
clerk.
Please
take.
A
E
A
C
F
B
F
F
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
We
receive
a
great
also
for
the
poll,
and
it
was
as
this
resident
saw
in
the
news.
I
saw
the
proposed
proposal
as
well
for
a
reduce
poll,
and
when
we
consider
that
our
population
goal,
we
have
more
than
80
2000
right
in
Queenstown,
and
this
pool
is
the
only
one
we
have
for
the
populations
to
use
and
they've
been
using
it
for
decades.
G
H
Sure
the
I
believe
all
council
members,
in
fact
I
believe,
was
in
the
in
the
herald,
given
that
design
of
the
pool
which
was
contracted
by
an
architect
who
then
went
out,
given
that
the
conceptual
design
to
obtain
estimates
as
to
what
that
cost
might
be
again
given
what's
there,
which
is
still
open
for
discussion
and
input.
So
if
there's
certain
things
about
it,
it's
not
locked
cast
in
stone
at
this
point,
but
it
can
be
changed
if
and
we
encourage
further
input.
H
That
would
be
for
installing
a
splash
pad
heading
heading
away
from
the
pool
house
and
then
building
a
pool
approximately
a
third
of
the
current
size
of
the
pool
progressing
beyond
that
they
would
be
the
tennis
court,
pickleball
court
or
butcher
Court.
Something
like
that
along
with
I'll
call
it
a
pagoda
house
I'm
using
the
wrong
term,
but
an
area
where
you
could
have
picnic
tables
benches.
That
type
of
thing
for
Gatherings
that
whole
project
is
estimated
about
seven
million
dollars
the
if
it
broken
down.
H
We
looked
at
this
to
say
if
we
broke
this
down
to
two
phases
to
say
the
pool,
so
that
is
also
encompassing
this.
What
I
just
described
without
that
Pagoda
house
slash
picnic
area
in
in
the
pickable
area
or
whatever
recreational
area
they
would
be
so
it
would
be
renovation
of
the
pool
house,
the
installation
of
a
splash
pad
and
a
pool,
as
I
mentioned,
approximately
a
third
of
the
size.
I
H
No,
the
architect
and
and
Miss
Bernardo,
along
with
the
architect
and
the
Consultants
that
were
out
there,
is
basically
that
it
can't
you
have
to
build
a
new
pool,
it's
not
renovating.
What's
currently
there
there's
too
much
Decay
damage,
that's
that's
the
existing
pool
itself,
the
size
of
it.
So
no
that
hasn't
been
looked
into.
Thinking
that
wasn't
an
option
was
not
an
option
again.
Given
that
capacity
which
is
obsolete
and
with
this
is
just
the
size
of
the
pool
mate,
they
also
have
to
maintain
it
lifeguards.
H
J
Thank
you,
mine
is
I,
more
so
have
a
comment
that
might
turn
into
a
question.
So
I
can
certainly
appreciate
the
letter
that
councilwoman
Jermaine
received
and
that
person's
opinion,
because
I
do
believe
we
do
need
places
for
teenagers
to
go
as
well
as
younger
children,
but
I
just
want
to
know
that
that
pool
is
huge.
J
The
pills,
the
pools
that
were
built
in
the
Roosevelt
era
in
the
1940s,
with
that
money
of
that
magnitude
that
that
magnitude
have
already
been
redone,
some
more
than
once
all
the
pools
in
New
York
same
thing
that
have
gone
to
this
model
to
shrink
the
size
of
the
pool,
but
still
have
a
pool.
So
people
can
swim
and
then
add
other
elements
of
recreation
around
it,
because
it
will
actually
include
more
people,
so
that
pool
has
a
capacity
of
something
like
1200.
J
J
That's
around
to
350
right
if
it's,
the
capacity
is
1200,
so
we'll
still
utilize
the
pool,
because
kids
can
still
swim.
14
year
olds
can
still
go
and
then
they
can
also
play
Pickleball
tennis
basketball
go
to
the
baseball
field
and
then
toddlers
can
go
and
if
it
opens
at
night,
more
adults
can
go
that
to
me.
I
see
it
as
it
will
be
utilized
more
than
if
we
left
it.
The
way
it
was
which
would
it's
saying
it's
impossible
to
rebuild
exactly
how
it
is.
J
I,
get
the
historical
aspect
and
I
very
much
appreciate
it.
I
went
to
the
bud
long
pool
as
a
child,
but
if
it's
not
going
to
be
utilized
and
the
way
that
it
was
many
many
years
ago,
then
I
don't
understand
why
we
would
even
make
that
consideration.
Just
for
the
point
of
History,
we
could
we're
supposed
to
have
more
people
wanting
to
come
to
utilize.
J
The
space
I
think
that's
the
point
with
the
community
growing,
there's
more
young
small
children
in
this
community
now
and
you
know,
with
a
capacity
of
1200
people,
that's
the
size
of
Princeton
West
like
every
kid
is
not
going
to
that
pool
every
day.
There's
also
other
things
to
do
so.
My
personal
opinion
is
expanding.
What
we
can
do
there
is
a
better
option
and
it
will
be
more
inclusive
for
the
city,
so.
H
F
Thank
you,
Council
women's.
Are
you
okay
on
the
subject?
I
just
I
have
one
follow-up
on
that
subject.
If
I
can
all
right
so
director
I
know
we,
so
we
received
about
750
000
from
that
Congressional
Aramark
grant
that
came
through.
There
are
some
guidelines
that
go
with
it,
which
we
have
to
actually
monitor
and
fulfill,
so
that
750
is
not
here.
You
go
city
of
Cranston.
We
have
to
follow
up
on
that.
Is
there
any
follow-ups
that
we
are
currently
will
be
doing
before?
H
The
grant
data
I
know
is
very
generous
in
terms
of
the
usage
of
the
funds
in
terms
of
the
out
dates,
but
the
critical
date
which
is
attributable
to
virtually
all
federal
grants
is
the
is
the
Contracting
the
proper
awarding
of
it
that
there's
certain
restrictions
and,
secondly,
and
critically
is
projects
cannot
begin
until
the
grant
document?
The
grant
pardon
me
the
grant
agreement
is
signed
by
both
parties,
so
it's
fully
executed.
H
So,
yes,
we've
been
awarded
it,
but
then
the
federal
agency
will
be
drafting
the
agreements
sending
them
over,
so
it
could.
It
could
take
months
for
that
to
happen
so
correct
if
we
don't
want
to
gamble
forfeiting
the
750
000
by
breaking
ground
too
soon.
Otherwise,
if
we
do
it
would
likely
be,
it
would
have
to
be
some
discussion
if
not
forfeited.
H
F
G
H
Now
that's
a
very
good
question
the,
and
this
is
for
consideration.
The
recommendation
is
the
bottom
line
would
be
I
think
this
should
be
vetted
through
the
budget
process
which
is
going
to
be
upon
us
very
very
soon.
The
way
we
open
to
any
suggestions,
but
the
way
we
see
this
would
be
one
of
two
things
using
arpa
funds
or
partially
using
arpa
funds.
H
If
it
qualifies,
we
believe
it
would,
but
we
want
to
verify
that
that
is
a
valid
use,
but
we're
quite
sure
it
would
be,
and
then
also
certainly
using
our
bond
funds.
So
the
city
sponsored
along
with
the
grants
or
use
or
combination
with
Opera
and
the
federal
funds,
the
that
750
000
Grant
off
more
more
so
happy
to
come
through
I,
think
those
are
basically
the
two
options.
G
G
One
thing
we
don't
take
into
consideration:
we
are
doing
something
here
to
satisfy
okay,
yes,
those
features
good,
but
the
thing
is
Last
Summer.
We
all
experience
how
hard
it
was
where
we
all
trying
to
find
cooling
station
for
those
people-
and
we
know
the
use
of
the
pool
will
be
best
for
when
we
get
into
summer.
G
So
my
question
is
why
you
don't
know
where
this
seven
million
dollars
can
come
from
and
since
we
passed
this
resolution
asking
to
use
up
a
fund
and
I
think
still
now
you
don't
know
how
much
you
can
take
from
our
power
and
you
don't
even
start
the
process
to
ask
whether
the
general
Tresor-
and
we
know
we
asked
auditor
di
Mario
was
he
said
based
on
the
guideline
of
kovid.
We
could
use
upper
money,
we
know
we
can
use
it,
but
you
should.
G
G
It's
not
we're
not
asking
for
Fantasy
we're
asking
for
to
have
a
place
for
when
someone
could
hit
and
it's
hard
and
our
children
not
going
to
school.
I
can
have
a
place
to
go,
not
the
fantasy
land.
You
can't
even
afford
it
would
be
good
to
have
Infinity
land,
but
if
you
can
afford
it,
you
are
talking
to
something,
and
you
don't
know
where
you
can
find
the
funds.
F
J
J
We
do
have
money
that
we
could
use
based
on
bonds,
but
using
the
bonds
might
not
be
the
best
way
to
go,
because
that's
how
I
understand
it,
but
my
question
beyond
that
is:
are
we
still
searching
for
further
Grant
options
to
supplement
what
we've
already
had,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
use
bonds,
money
or
excessively
use
Arbor
money,
because
that
could
go
into
a
different
pot?
Is
that
happening
still
future.
J
H
The
recommendation
from
the
mayor
is
break
this
into
two
phases:
phase
one
phase,
two
phase,
one:
the
pool
house
he's
encouraging
a
splash
pad.
If
you
feel
you
don't
want
to
do
a
splash
pad
I'm
sure
he's
open
to
not
do
it,
but
when
you're
installing
something
you're
going
to
get
best
economies
of
scale
to
do
that
in
the
in
the
pool
and
address
the
other
two
million
dollar
segment
at
a
later
time,.
C
H
Also
to
complete
that,
because,
if
you
really
look
at
it,
we're
in
getting
to
the
end
of
February
to
the
mayor's
budget
is
due
to
the
console
for
deliberation.
April,
1st
we're
talking,
maybe
six
weeks
away
and
we'll
have
we'll
have
a
much
better
idea
where
we
are
financially.
So
that's
why
I
get
back
to
the
two
options
of
arpa
or
the.
J
J
Bond
funds
which
I
I
understand
is
it:
are
there
just
multiple
different
things
that
could
be
presented
to
us
as
what
it
costs
less?
Perhaps
as
you're
doing
the
Bane
Splash
Pad,
we
get
some
kind
of
some
kind
of
deal
that
you
know
we're
going
to
do
another
one
right
now
to
to
start
things
quicker
so
that
we
can
say
this
summer.
There
will
be
something
for
people
to
do
and
you
don't
really
need
a
bath
house
to
play
in
a
splash
pads,
because
people
can
just
come
there.
J
I
think
I,
don't
know
the
exact
how
the
health
code
is
going
to
go
if
you
need
to
have
bathrooms
or
if
you
need
to
have
porta
potties
how
it
will
work,
but
if
someone
could
figure
that
out,
I
think
that
that
would
satisfy
more
people
and
there'd
be
less
pressure
to
spend
all
the
money
and
do
this
all
at
once
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
probably
better
for
the
council
and
the
administration
and
the
whole
city.
So
that's
just
just
me
talking
off
the
cuff.
D
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
chairwoman.
Vice
president
director,
what
is
the
what's
the
deadline,
so
obviously,
when
this
comes
before
us
in
the
budget
process,
I
would
think
it
would
come
through
the
the
capital
budget.
What
is
the
which
has
to
be
approved
by
planning?
What's
the
deadline
for
the
administration
to
submit
that
to
planning
for
their
approval
to
be
included
in
the
fiscal
year,
24.
H
Great
question
the
mayor
has
submitted
I
believe
five
million
dollars
within
the
cap
to
planning
for
their
consideration,
so
it
would
would
be
coming
back
to
you
know
through
the
budget
process,
for
presentation
to
the
council
for
April
1st
and
it
also
the
possibility
of
the
Opera
funds.
But
obviously
we
know
we'll
have
to
balance
that
with
you
know,
Revenue
loss,
so
I
don't
think,
there's
a
well
a
lot
more
six
weeks
from
now
than
we
do
know
this
evening.
H
We
believe
that
or
recommend
that
yeah
that
doing
another
pickleball
court
or
the
pergola
house
I
call
it
could
wait,
whereas
more
essential
being
the
pool
and
the
and
essential
is
the
the
pool
house
renovations.
You
can't
have
one.
Without
the
other
I
say
the
only
optional
thing
would
be
the
splash
pad
and,
as
you
know,
the
construction
has
begun
and
the
the
Bane
splash
pad
and
at
least
it'll
be
something
that
there
will
be
something
we'll
have
come.
The
warm
weather.
D
D
You
know
it
is
a
piece
of
history
that
piece
of
History
has
played
its
part
and
been
a
really
a
core
to
a
lot
of
great
memories
for
a
lot
of
people
in
Cranston,
and
hopefully
the
new
rendition
of
that
will
continue
to
provide
those
memories
and
opportunities
for
for
people
to
come.
So
looking
forward
to
seeing
what
the
exact
plans
are
and
with
the
mention
of
Splash
Pad
I
do
want
to.
I
I
What
maybe
her
point
is
that
why
do
we
have
to
shoot
for
the
sky
here
when
the
summer
comes
and
the
pool's
not
open
we're
going
to
get
the
phone
calls
again
and
then,
if
this
we
break
ground,
we
may
not
even
have
a
pool
the
following
year
if
we're
going
with
a
seven
million
dollar
project.
So
it's
it
just
seems
to
me.
Why
can't
we
just
have
a
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
plan
that
gives
us
a
pool
that
we
can
open
and
the
rest
of
it
can
be
done
after
I
know.
I
The
overall
project
would
be
beautiful
and
everybody
would
love
it.
It
would
be
very
expensive,
and
it
just
seems
to
me
that
if
we
had
something
with
less
High
Hope
but
would
give
us
a
pool,
I
think
that's
what
people
really
want
in
this
city
right
now
they
don't
want
a
paddle
ball
court
or
whatever
you
call
it.
I
H
E
You
and
I
I
fully
agree
with
the
council,
councilman
Ferry
I
think
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
we
even
need
one.
We
just
are
building
our
first
Splash
Pad
so
before
we
go
designing
and
paying
for
a
second
one.
Let's
see
if
people
even
go
to
this
one
and
what
problems
exist
there
or
not
exist,
so
that
we
can
then
develop
a
second
one.
If
we
see
a
need
for
it,
we
shouldn't
be
doing
things
unless
there's
a
need
for
it.
There's
definitely
a
need
for
the
pool
in
the
pool
house.
E
H
I
know
that
you
can't
take
a
vote,
but
if
you'd
like
individually
to
send
me
a
text
or
an
email,
giving
me
your
opinion
I'll
be
happy
to
bring
that
back
immediately
to
the
mayor
and
give
you
give
your
ideas
having
that
Design
This
input
is
good.
That's
that's
what
we
want
frankly,
but
if
you,
if
you
let
us
know
we'll
we'll
I'll
get
back
to
them
as
soon
as
we
can
I'll
collect
that
information
in
several
days
and
then
we
could
take
another
peek.
A
I
just
want
to
thank
councilwoman
Jermaine
for
bringing
up
the
subject
of
the
bud,
long
pool
that
the
good
news
is
I.
Think
everybody
in
this
room,
the
administration.
We
all
agree
something
needs
to
be
done.
We
all
agree,
it
should
have
been
done
yesterday
and
while
it
will
be
a
large
expense,
we
all
agree.
We
want
to
spend
the
least
amount
to
accomplish
the
goal
and
I
think
that
from
what
I've
heard
this
evening,
we
all
agree
that
we
just
want
to
pull
for
the
kids
to
use.
A
We
just
want
to
pull
open.
We
understand,
we've
got
to
have
the
ADA
compliance
and
a
facility,
but
we
don't
want
all
other
kinds
of
bells
and
whistles.
If
it's
going
to
delay
the
project
or
have
us
over,
extend
us
financially
in
a
place
that
we
don't
need
to
be
so
the
sooner
we
can
get
it
done
this.
You
know
the
the
just
stick
to
what
we
need,
which
is
just
a
functioning
pool
and
I
appreciate
the
administration's
efforts
and
I
will
say
this.
A
H
You,
sir,
if
I
may
respond
absolutely
in
terms
of
delaying
it.
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
delay
it.
This
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
this
practically
speaking,
The
Season's,
not
it's
not
going
to
happen
for
the
summer.
So,
given
that
I
think
it's,
perhaps
a
matter
of
cost
and
utility,
what
you're
really
looking
for
so
I
think
either
way
it
would
be
next
year.
Someone
take
you
know
going
into
the
pool,
but
it
would
be
a
matter
of
cost
and
scaling
back
is
kind
of
I.
G
So
I
wanted
to
conclude
with
I
feel
I.
Do
believe
that
if
we
took
into
consideration
for
the
past
two
three
years,
the
needs
of
the
resident
of
what
the
priority
was,
we
could
have
the
the
poll
for
this
summer,
so
they
aren't
the
only
one
thing
they
need
have
a
place
to
cool
off
when
the
summer
hit
and
I
do
appreciate.
G
G
The
only
thing
we
have
at
hand-
and
the
only
thing
the
administration
could
do
is
make
sure
to
know
how
much
money
we
could
use-
or
this
is
what
we're
going
to
take
from
upper
and
use
it
as
as
what
we
have
to
start
off
start
off
with
what
we
have
not
dreaming
from
what
we
don't
know
when
we're
gonna.
Have
it
so
be
practical?
That's
what
I
think
so,
if
I'm
working
I
know
if
I
can
afford
a
house
five
thousand
hundred
dollars,
I
know:
where
is
my
budget?
G
Are
we
not
fiscally
responsible
now
so
I
agree?
We
need
that
will
be
so
good
to
be
so
inclusive,
but
what
now
they
need?
The
immediate
need
is
have
a
pool.
So
if
we
said
they
listen,
we
could
do
we
say
we
start
off
with
APA.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
take
two
two
million
dollars
from
upper
to
start
people,
that's
concrete
Toyota.
We
have
nothing
concrete,
it's
all
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah.
H
H
Now
the
considerations
for
using
arpa
funds
or
the
budget
going
back
to
it
I
think
we're
gonna
have
better
perspective
in
a
few
weeks
that
to
say
we're
how
we
best
off
approaching
that.
Certainly,
we
would
love
to
use
the
Opera
funds
as
the
first
choice.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
due
to
room
without
with
possibly
using
Revenue
loss.
We
don't
want
to
put
ourselves
in
a
pickle
on
an
operating
basis,
but.
G
F
C
B
G
G
G
G
We
will
have
a
worker
cannot
go
for
your
work
and
we
have
a
speeding
issue
that
has
not
been
solved
so
our
quality
of
life,
so
people
cannot
go
out
to
really
use
the
sidewalk
to
walk
their
dog.
You
cannot
use
your
cycle
to
go
with
your
toddlers,
your
one-year-old
in
a
you,
know
cheer.
You
cannot
do
that
in
word
too.
I,
don't
know
for
the
other
word,
but
in
word
too
a
mom
cannot
go
out
in
the
afternoon
for
a
walk
with
their
kids.
There
is
no
other
ones.
G
G
My
name
is
I'm,
not
saying
the
name:
I
live
in
Mason
Ave,
in
what
to,
along
with
my
wife
and
a
15
month,
old
son
I
had
been
intending
to
write
to
you
for
some
time
about
some
item
affecting
our
area
and
would
like
to
know
what
you
or
the
city
could
do
about
them.
If
anything,
one,
we
walk
a
ton
since
getting
a
dog,
but
as
the
weather
improves,
we
like
to
walk
to
Dave's
and
all
the
shops
and
restaurants
on
world
Square.
G
However,
there
are
lots
of
cars
that
speed
to
the
tune
of
50
plus
miles
per
hour,
some
of
whom
ignore
crosswords
and
many
of
whom
are
trying
to
beat
a
red
line
in
front
of
the
elementary
school
as
a
speed
bump
in
or
around
what
I
mean
being
considered.
Oh,
my
gosh.
Okay,
our
sidewalks
directly
in
front
of
our
house
and
both
of
our
neighbors,
is
a
disaster
and
using
a
stroller
on
them
is
impossible.
G
G
Thank
you
in
advance
for
your
time
and
consideration.
So
this
letter
has
so
many
things
that
we've
been
talking
about.
Sidewalk
is
one
of
them,
so
I
have
many
residents
that
says
I
want
to
redo
my
side
work,
but
there
is
a
program
in
this
city
and
the
way
the
program
works.
You
have
to
have
your
own
contractor
and
to
be
benefit
to
benefit
so
like
50,
and
you
have
a
reimbursement.
G
G
G
So
if
this,
this
city
has
the
money
to
reimburse
so
why
don't
you
make
it
easy
for
the
resident
we
didn't
say:
okay,
I'm
gonna
cause,
it's
gonna
cost
me
like
I
have
an
appraisal,
it's
gonna
cost
me
500
and
because
I'm
gonna
have
two
250
reimbursement.
Why
don't
you
I
got
the
250
to
the
Department
of
Public
Works,
and
then
they
do
the
work.
So
that's
what
I
want
to
propose?
I,
don't
know
if
we
in
this
channel
how
we
can
do
or
if
that
I
would
like
the
administration
to
answer
that.
G
We
know
we
need
trees,
we
have
a
program,
we
need
to
plant
trees,
but
at
the
same
time
we
need
to
ensure
the
safety
of
our
elders
and
our
children,
because
we
have
complaints,
I,
know
of
a
resident
that
has
a
son,
a
child
that
fell
on
the
sidewalk
and
Sue
the
city,
because
the
arm
his
arm
was
booked.
My
son
fell
on
the
sidewalk
and
was
it
Thief?
G
So
if
we
want
to
have
the
quality
of
life
for
our
business,
we
need
to
address
those
three
that
they
made
our
sidewalk
and
last
time.
I
bought
this
into
the
console.
I
was
told
it
was
at
the
discretion
of
the
warden
tree
to
cut
the
trees.
So
my
question
now
who
is
liable
when
someone
fall
because
of
our
sidewalk
are
not
safe,
so.
F
K
Far
as
the
liability
portion,
we
do
have
two
ordinances
under
on
the
title:
12,
which
state
that
the
abutting
landowner
is
responsible
to
repair
any
defect
in
the
sidewalk.
That's
their
back
to
back,
and
the
way
it
reads
is
that
if
the
director
of
Department
of
Public
Works
determines
that
there's
an
issue
with
the
sidewalk
that
the
abutting
landowner
has
put
on
notice
that
they
have
to
effectuate
a
repair
okay.
So
we
already
have
that
in
our
ordinance.
K
K
G
D
Just
every
time
this
comes
the
late
Cool
Moose,
Bob
Healey
wrote
a
really
interesting
editor
in
the
herald.
Maybe
at
this
point
eight
years
ago
that
asked
some
of
these
questions
and
and
I
know.
Councilwoman
Rizzoli
are
kind
of
looking
across
at
each
other,
wondering
how.
How
is
it
possible
that
a
public
entity
is
Shifting
responsibility
for
maintenance
onto
a
private
individual
without
any
ability
to
appeal
that
responsibility.
K
Well,
those
types
of
ordinances
believe
it
or
not
have
been
challenged
throughout
the
country,
because
I
did
research
this
at
one
point
and
what
I
found
was
nothing
short
of
incredible
I
found
cases
where
a
land
owner
was
tasked
with
maintaining
and
cutting
down
grass
on
a
budding
land
that
was
owned
by
a
city
and
I
said
when
I
first
saw
the
factual
scenario.
I
said
there
was
no
way
a
court
can
possibly
uphold
this.
K
A
person
has
to
go
out
like
you
see
on
the
sides
of
the
highway.
Where
you
you
know,
you
might
see
them
on
the
medians
they're
cutting
the
grass.
But
it's
it's.
You
know
the
highway
department
doing
it
and
I
found
that
some
cases
believe
it
or
not.
Where
the
courts
actually
upheld
that
and
said
Yup.
It
is
the
not
only
the
responsibility
of
the
landowner
but
the
financial
responsibility
which
truthfully,
as
an
attorney
I,
found
to
be
incredible,
but
there
is
case
law
out
there
and
there
are
courts
that
uphold
these
kinds
of
ordinances.
J
Thank
you
so
going
back
to
the
so.
The
city
owns
the
sidewalks,
but
makes
residents
responsible
for
fixing
sidewalks
and
shoveling
the
sidewalks.
But
if
they
fall
on
the
sidewalk,
they
can
sue
the
city
unless
they
are
found
to
have
not
maintained
the
sidewalk
that
is
not
owned
by
them
and
if
there's
a
tree
in
the
sidewalk
making
it
a
hazard,
they
don't
have
the
right
to
even
pay
with
their
own
money
to
remove
said
tree
to
fix
the
sidewalk
that
they're
responsible
for
that
they
don't
own.
K
J
K
Without
trying
to
further
complicate
what's
already
a
complicated
issue
here,
the
Supreme
Court
in
Rhode
Island
has
made
it
very
clear
that
in
situations
and
this
this
applies
to
the
snow
removal
ordinances.
The
court
said:
yeah.
Okay,
that's
fine!
You
can
do
that.
However,
if
somebody
slips
and
falls
the
homeowner
or
the
property,
the
Abundant
property
owner
will
not
be
liable.
K
J
Is
did
you
know,
or
is
it
possible
that
this
might
be
an
outside
of
this
Arena
conversation,
but
does
anywhere
and
again
you
probably
have
to
look
this
up
and
I'll
expect
you
to
know.
Just
if
you
give
the
sidewalks
to
the
homeowner
and
then
say
you
know,
you're
responsible
for
maintaining
in
the
same
way
that
you're
responsible,
you
can't
have
your
grass
over
a
certain
height
or
whatever,
and
you
then
they're
responsible
for
everything
and
they
can't
sue
the
city
with
that
other
than
uniformity.
J
Because
then
we
can't
really
control
exactly
what
people
do
I,
don't
think.
Would
that
maybe
be
maybe
fiscally
better
for
us
and
give
people
the
freedom
and
liberty
to
make
a
nice
sidewalk
and
then
clear
it
and
then
not
sue
us,
because
we
keep
going
over
how
we
are
self-insured
and
we
don't
want
to
really
open
ourselves
up,
but
maybe
it
also
takes
away
work
from
us
just
saying
just
an
option.
K
Because
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
that's
more
of
a
policy
decision
than
it
is
really
a
legal
question.
I
mean
obviously
and
I
know.
This
has
happened
before
the
city
on
occasion
has
abandoned
sections
of
of
a
street.
For
instance,
that's
no
longer
useful
for
whatever
reason,
and
that
becomes
one
half
of
I'm
just
using
the
example
of
the
street.
One
half
would
go
over
to
the
abutting
landowner
on
one
side
and
the
other
half
becomes
part
of
the
land
holding
of
the
other
of
butter.
K
So
it's
been
done,
obviously,
with
with
roads
and
I.
Truthfully
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
situation
where
a
city
in
one
Fell,
Swoop
basically
said
okay,
every
sidewalk
in
the
city
or
the
town
is
now
going
to
be
abandoned
and
conveyed
over
to
the
abutting
property
owner.
I.
Think
you'd
probably
be
a
test
case
for
that.
G
G
So
to
resolve
these
side
work
problem
safety,
so
you
know
we
I
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
here
when
I
showed
those
side
Works
in
this
side
here
I
have
I,
can
I
can
send
it
to
you
all.
You
can
see.
I
took
pictures
so
those
for
example.
We
have
many
residents
that
want
it
to
be
done,
but
they
do
not
have
the
you
know,
Financial
ability
to
do
it,
but
they
want-
and
we
know
there
is
a
program
here
that
can
help
you
know
on
some.
G
So
my
question
was:
if
we
can,
we
ask
you
know
instead
of
having
this
city,
give
the
50
to
the
west
to
the
resident.
Who
want
decide
what
to
be
done,
and
we
ask
if
you,
if
you
want
your
sidewalk
to
be
done,
give
us
the
the
money
and
then
we
come.
We
do
it,
it's
not
something
we
can
do
or
legally
or
toward
students
or
something
yeah.
K
I
think
your
question's
kind
of
a
mix
of
legal
and
administrative,
but
yeah
I
by
ordinance,
you
can
enact
any
ordinance
as
long
as
it
promotes
health
safety,
welfare
morals
of
of
the
citizens,
so
that
would
certainly
come
under
that
heading.
So
the
short
answer,
the
short
answer
is
yes:
now
the
devil
is
in
the
details.
Obviously,
that
is
something
that
would
have
to
be
vetted
and
worked
through
and,
as
I
said,
it's
probably
a
combination
of
legal
and
and
administrative.
That's.
H
K
I
think
you
have,
as
I
said
before,
and
I
use
the
example
of
the
snow
removal
that
that's
an
easier
example.
The
court
said
you're
not
the
budding
homeowner,
even
though
they're
tasked
with
clearing
the
snow.
If
they
do
it
negligently
and
someone
slips
and
Falls,
they
cannot
be
sued.
That
only
leaves
one
party
that
leaves
the
city
okay,
so
I.
Don't
think
that
this
would
necessarily
change
the
status
that
the
city
occupies
as
owner.
K
Now,
if
you're
going
to
as
I
said,
if
you're
going
to
seed
the
land
over
the
sidewalk
over
to
the
landowner,
that's
that's
a
whole
different
matter.
Now,
it's
it's
absolutely
theirs
if
they
make
some
repair
to
the
sidewalk
and
they
maintain
it
negligently.
Well,
if
we
use
the
snow
removal,
analog,
I,
think
in
my
opinion
the
court
would
take
the
same
position
that
look.
K
You
want
to
make
them
responsible
to
maintain
the
sidewalk
fine,
but
unless
it's
something
ridiculous,
something
that
reaches
somebody
leaves
a
three
foot
hole
I'm,
not
talking
about
something
like
that,
but
it's
just
not
a
good
job
and
somebody
trips
and
falls
I,
don't
think
you'll.
The
the
budding
landowner
will
be
able
to
be
sued
and
it
would
fall
back
on
the
city,
but
that's
the
status.
That's
the
state
of
law.
Now,
anyway,
I.
Don't
think
that
would
really
change.
G
Can
I
add
something
you
know
based
on
their
program?
This
city
has
to
inspect,
that's
why
we
make
it
easy
for
the
resident
and
for
the
safety,
because
when
someone,
if
someone
participate
in
this
program,
the
city
has
to
come
to
inspect
if
this
sidewalk
has
been
done
properly
so
now,
if
we,
you
have
to
do
all
of
those,
why
not
you
know
how
it's
done
properly?
Why
not
you
give,
you
know,
give
me
the
money
and
then
I
did
I
will
give
you
the
work.
I
will
make
the
work.
G
F
Thank
you,
councilwoman
Jermaine,
moving
on
to
councilman
papalasquez
he's
not
here
this
evening,
I
assume
we
want
to
move
this
over
move
this
to
the
next
public
works
committee
meeting,
which
is
updated
on
the
construction
of
Park
and
nights
bill.
So
through
the
clerk
of
we
can.
Please
move
this
on
for
next
month.
The
next
items
that
we
have.
We
actually
have
eight
polls
requesting
eight
pull
requests
from
Rhode
Island
energy
on
eight
different
location.
F
D
Sorry
geraldman
vice
president
I
would
ask
that
the
motion
be
amended
to
remove
the
request
from
Rhode
Island
energy
for
poll
location
on
Cadillac
Avenue.
It's
it's
right
around
the
corner
for
me
and
and
unfortunately,
I
haven't,
had
the
opportunity
or
I
haven't
been
able
to
connect
with
the
the
property
owner
about
any
questions
it
is.
A
Along
the
lines
of
the
discussion
of
taking
it
as
a
block,
I
will
just
say:
I
won't
be
in
favor
of
that
this
evening,
because
I
did
look
at
all
these
locations
and
I
do
have
some
concerns
with
some
of
these
locations,
which
I
would
prefer
to
discuss
individually.
But
if,
if
the,
if
this
committee
chooses
to
take
it
as
a
block,
then
I
will
just
vote
no.
G
F
F
G
G
H
Public
works
department,
the
Engineering
Group
goes
out
to
make
sure
that
these
requests
are
in
compliance
with
the
criteria
criteria
being
40-foot
high
poles
wooden
poles
with
in
these
cases,
all
these
cases
there's
no
tree
removals
or
any
substantial
tree
trimming
involved
and
that
there
are
offsets
from
driveways
of
at
least
three
feet,
so
they
meet
all
those
criteria.
So
with
that,
there's
no
objection.
F
A
H
A
J
You
to
council
president
mourinho's
Point:
could
we
just
maybe
continue
this
one,
so
we
could
actually
check
it
out.
I
know
Google
Maps,
if
it.
If
it
looks
that
way,
and
the
council
president
is
not
confident
in
it
could
we
could
take
a
drive
by
it
could
just
be
how
it
looks
if
I
don't
wanna.
You
know
to
put
her
in
that
position
to
have
to
vote
no.
Instead,
we
could
just
continue
it
and
check
it
out
further.
Just
an
idea.
My.
I
Just
a
recommendation
in
the
future
I
used
to
have
a
discussion
with
Nick
capeza
prior
to
these
meetings
and
I
would
also
drive
out
personally
to
most
of
these
spots
and
I
would
have
a
conversation
with
Marissa
Albanese
from
National
Grid.
Sometimes
the
poll
is
needed
because
they're
building
a
house
and
they're
gonna,
they
need
to
put
electricity
on
that
spot.
So
how
we
vote
sometimes
really
makes
a
difference
on
whether
or
not
National
good
can
do
their
job
and
do
what
they're
supposed
to
do
so.
I
I'm
not
saying
I
did
not
go
out
and
look
at
this
one
I
did
not
see
it,
but
in
the
future
we
need
to
be
more
prepared
to
vote
on
these
because
it
could
make
a
difference
if
somebody
trying
to
build
a
house
or
do
a
renovation
or
something
to
that
effect.
So
that's
all
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
going
to
matter.
A
I,
just
on
discussion,
the
description
of
the
work.
That's
provided
says
that
it's
it's
needed
to
Aid
with
slack
between
two
existing
polls.
The
problem
I
have
is
I,
don't
know
where
exactly
it's
going
to
be
situated,
because
the
driveway
for
two
Randolph
Street,
let
me
be
clear,
is
on
the
same
side
of
where
they're
proposing
a
poll
whether
or
not
it's
gonna
be
within
three
feet.
I,
don't
know.
Perhaps
we
do
want
to
continue
this
matter
and
get
an
exact
location
as
to
where
that
poll
is
going
to
be
located.
F
J
F
I
C
B
A
So
by
them
adding
this
poll
it
would
be
four
polls
or
at
a
minimum,
of
three
poles
encumbering
that
property.
The
reason
stated
for
the
poll
is
to
said
that
it's
aiding
with
guying
the
junction
Pole.
Basically
it
was
a
guy
wire
installation,
but
I
I'm
not
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
it.
We
can
either
continue.
It
continue
it
with
further
information
or
we
can
approve
of
it.