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From YouTube: April 3, 2023, Claims, Safety Services & Licenses Committee and Finance Committee Meetings
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April 3, 2023
Claims Committee
Safety Services & Licenses Committee
Finance Committee
A
B
2023
is
the
claim
committee
meetings.
Please
Madame
click
the
wall.
D
B
B
B
46-5
something
A2
prospective
and
actual
litigation
matters
as
listed
on
the
agenda
in
this
section.
That
follow
would
like
a
motion
to
go
to
Executive
session.
So.
E
B
E
D
C
D
B
Right
what
was
taken
on
the
executive
session,
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
seal
the
minutes
so.
E
G
H
E
C
A
E
Okay,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
up
public
comment:
if
there
is
anyone
here
in
council
chambers
or
on
Zoom,
that
would
like
to
testify
on
any
item
that
is
on
the
docket
tonight.
We
ask
that
you,
please
do
so
at
this
time.
So
is
there
anyone
here
in
council
chambers
that
would
like
to
speak
on
any
item
on
the
docket
tonight.
E
E
Next,
we
have
committee
business
matters
carried
over
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
discussion
relative
to
issues
and
complaints
of
vibration,
allegedly
from
business
Edgewood
laundry
located
at
1980,
Broad
Street
I
had
contacted
the
attorney
for
the
Neighbors
Mr
Kelleher,
and
he
said
he
would
not
be
here
tonight
and
that
they
have
not
at
this
time
made
any
progress.
So
we
would
like
to
continue
this
to
next
month,
if
possible.
Let
them
work.
E
E
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
a
victualing
license
for
sweet
green,
which
was
continued
and
I
would
like
to
note
that
the
clerk's
office
did
receive
the
Rhode
Island
Department
of
Health
final
inspection,
and
they
have
so.
That
means
all
of
their
paperwork
is
in
order.
I
know
that
there
is
someone
from
sweetgreen
on
Zoom
welcome.
If
you
just
have
any
comments
to
make
to
us.
K
Hi
I
am
the
director
of
Licensing
for
sweet,
green
and
I
believe
on
the
last
hearing,
everything
was
approved,
except
for
the
final
health
inspection
report,
which
was
the
only
item
pending
since
then.
We
have
received
the
final
inspection
report
and
everything
was
sent
to
Miranda
in
the
city
clerk's
office.
C
E
C
E
E
Please
press
the
button
on
there
make
sure
the
green
light
is
on
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please
Charles.
E
If
you
could
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
business,
what
your
hour
is
going
to
be
and
we'll
have
a
discussion
on
that.
L
L
L
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
through
the
chair
to
the
clerk
is
everything
in
order
in
terms
of
fire,
inspection
and
everything
else.
That's
required.
D
You
chair
just
have
a
comment.
Obviously
I've
been
on
the
council
for
nine
years
and
you've
been
in
existence
then,
and
I've
never
received
any
complaints
from
any
of
the
neighbors
or
the
neighboring
businesses.
It's
pretty
much
all
businesses
there
so
good
job
on
nobody
around
calling
me
to
complain
about
you.
So
thanks
sometimes.
C
N
I
C
D
E
We'll
take
that
out
of
order
use
car
license
new
Atlantic
Auto
Center.
C
E
C
Actually
under
section
B
it's
listed
as
new,
but
it
should
be
renewal.
E
All
right,
let's
vote
on
it,
now
motion
to
approve
so.
A
C
E
E
O
O
Sure
so
Delta
auto
body
is
an
auto
body
that
has
been
in
existence
since
1977,
with
the
primary
location
in
Providence.
We
are
making
a
second
location
on
Park
Ave
at
the
old
Ideal
Auto
Body
after
they've
lost
their
license
with
taking
over
that
facility
the
process
of
buying
the
building,
and
so
this
is
an
application
to
have
a
second
location
here
in
France.
Now.
J
D
Thank
you
chair,
just
like
I
did
with
the
last
Auto
Body
I
ideal
has
been
there.
I
haven't
received
no
complaints
from
the
neighbors
there's
no
houses
that
have
bought
it
so
I'll
be
voting
in
favor
of
this
tonight.
E
Okay,
now
we
have
class
a
liquor
license:
transfer
from
Reservoir
Liquors
to
Rhode
Island
wine
and
spirit
I'd
like
to
make
a
note
that
there
were
two
items
on
the
agenda
on
their
license
that
had
not
been
cleared,
the
first
one,
the
clearance
on
tangible
taxes.
That
item
has
been
cleared
with
the
clerk's
office,
and
the
second
item
I'd
like
to
mention
this
before
you
do
before
you
talk.
E
The
state
requires
the
applicants
to
advertise
twice
when
they're
looking
for
a
certificate
of
good
standing
and
because
of
one
day
the
state
required
them
to
advertise
this
a
second
time
they've
only
had
like
one
day
and
therefore
the
license
could
not
be
they
could
not
have.
E
The
state
could
have
not
renewed
it
today,
but
they
could
get
it
tomorrow
and
then
they
would
have
to
wait
another
month
to
get
their
license
so
I'm
recommending
tonight
that
we
approve
this
license
and
let
the
clerk
issue
the
license
only
if
the
certificate
of
good
standing
with
the
state
comes
in,
but
not
to
issue
the
license
until
then
so
and
now
at
this
time,
would
you
guys
please
explain
to
us
a
little
bit
about
your
business
right
name
and
address
for
the
record
all.
P
E
P
E
Q
That
would
be
the
certificate
of
good
standing
is
what
they
were
waiting
for,
but
that's
that
is
correct.
You
know
Miranda
said
that
she
was.
She
was
expecting
that
in
relatively
short
order.
R
Certificate
of
good
standing
cannot
be
issued
by
the
state
until
the
license
has
been
advertised
for
two
consecutive
advertisements
so
with
the
Cranston
Herald
running
once
a
week
on
Thursdays
this.
The
second
run
of
this
ad
was
on
Thursday
March
30th,
so
the
first
day
that
the
certificate
of
good
standing
could
have
even
possibly
been
issued
would
have
been
on
Friday,
but
the
state
is
usually
not
that
prompt
so
as
of
today,
it
hasn't
been
issued.
Yet,
but
that's
that's,
not
That's
Not
Unusual.
E
Okay
can
I
ask
Council
to
weigh
in
on
this
please.
S
Yes,
so
basically,
what
we're
describing
here
is
a
liquor
license
that
is
granted
not
issued
until
certain
criteria
have
been
satisfied,
and
that
is
a
rule
that
the
dbr
has
enacted.
S
There
is
Talk
of
the
DVR
rescinding
this
rule.
I,
don't
know
that
it's
been
done
just
yet.
However,
the
committee
can
assume
to
that
rule
Grant
the
license
with
the
understanding
that
it's
not
going
to
be
issued
by
the
clerk's
office
until
any
and
all
criteria
are
met.
So,
yes,
there
is
authority
to
Grant
the
license.
It
just
won't
be
issued.
D
N
D
And
I
will
strike
that
and
motion
to
approve
Rhode,
Island,
Wine
and
Spirits
Inc
for
the
transfer
pending
the
certificate
of
good
stamina.
C
E
L
A
E
Next,
we
have
class
BV
liquor,
license
999
restaurant
Incorporated,
Asian
Bistro.
Is
there
anyone
here
from
that
establishment.
S
That
that's
correct
chairman.
The
committee
can
do
the
same
same
exact
thing.
The
license
can
be
granted
not
issued
until
the
condition
is
complied
with.
E
The
certificate
of
good
standing
has
not
been
received
at
this
point
in
time,
so
what
we're
considering
tonight
is
to
approve
the
license,
but
not
issue.
It.
T
J
T
Received
the
email
from
the
conquer
about
Thursday
and
I,
called
them
Friday
and
they're
working
on
me.
T
S
Chairman,
if
I
made
one
more
point
of
information,
because
this
particular
license
is
over
the
cap,
it
does
need
full
Council
approval
as
notated
by
the
clerk.
So
even
if
that
condition
is
satisfied
until
the
council
gets
full
approval
at
the
end
of
the
month,
they
won't
be
able
to
operate
pending
that
approval.
E
All
okay,
so
what
what
he's
explaining
to
you
is
that
we
can
vote
to
approve
it
tonight,
but
not
issue
it
until
the
clerk
has
the
certificate
of
right.
However,
at
the
end
of
the
month,
we
have
a
full
council
meeting
and
because
this
license
is
over
the
cap
yeah,
you
need
the
full
Council
vote
on
it.
So
we
it's
not.
It
is
even
if
you
get
the
certificate
tomorrow
and
give
it
to
the
clerk,
we
still
can't
issue
you
the
license
until
the.
E
Until
until
that
meeting
on
at
the
end
of
the
month
last
Monday
of
the
month,
yeah
all
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Well
stay
right
there,
just
in
case
anybody
has
a
question
for
you.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
pending
the
certificate
of
good
standing,
somu.
S
I
mean
I,
I
I,
think
it's
semantics,
I
mean
if
the
council
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry,
if
the.
If
the
committee
approves
this
now,
it
needs
Council
approval.
If
the
council
doesn't
approve
it,
it
doesn't
take
effect
anyway.
The
recommendation,
I
think
is,
is
kind
of
Superfluous.
It's
it's
irrelevant.
It
makes
it
out
of
committee.
It
goes
in
front
of
the
council.
If
they
approve
it,
they
approve
it.
They
don't
approve
it,
they
don't
approve
it
I,
don't
think
it
really
needs
to
take
the
form
of
a
recommendation.
S
S
You
should
just
you
you
vote
to
approve,
if
that's
what
you'd
like
to
do
subject
to
obviously
the
condition
of
the
certificate
of
food
standing.
It's
then
taken
up
by
the
council,
because
until
the
council,
and
unless
the
council
approves
it,
it
has,
it
doesn't
take
effect
in
any
event.
So
whether
we
call
it
a
recommendation,
I
I
prefer
that
you
vote
on
it.
It's
approved,
it
makes
it
out
of
committee
is
being
approved,
and
then
the
council
votes.
E
E
I
C
J
E
U
We
are
a
50
50
partnership,
LLC,
so
I'm
Cecilia
etherbrew.
I
t
h:
u
r
b?
U
r?
U
61
Hope
Street
Providence,
Rhode,
Island,
02906.,.
U
So
we
run
a
wedding
and
event
design
business
and
also
do
florals
and
vintage
pieces
so
kind
of
like
home,
decor
events
and
flowers.
We
offer
delivery
and
Custom
Design
Services
for
the
home
and
also
businesses
and
the
like.
U
E
M
Thank
you
chairman,
just
gonna,
say
it
gets
approved
this
evening.
Welcome
to
the
city.
Cranston
I
am
a
woman
of
Ward
one
in
that
area,
particularly
as
well,
and
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
myself
or
any
one
of
the
council
members
as
well.
All.
E
V
A
c
h,
I
d
a
last
name
era,
a
h,
I
a
r
a-
and
this
is
it's:
it's
a
smoke
shop
which
is
I,
sell.
Only
tobacco
products
like
cigarettes,
loose
tobacco
bags,
hookah
hookah.
E
Okay,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
motion
to
approve.
Second,
any
discussion
or
questions
from
the
council
for
the
applicant
councilman.
I
Donegan,
thank
you
chairman
good
evening.
How
are
you
the
only
thing
is
last
month
there
was
an
establishment
who
sells
alcohol.
That
was
that's
a
couple
couple
doors
down
and
they
were
here
due
to
some
issues
with
selling
to
underage
I
know
that
was
alcohol,
but
just
please
be
mindful
of
you
know,
making
sure
that
everyone
that
is
in
the
store
and
purchasing
any
you
know
tobacco
products
that
is
required
to
be
over
21.
You
know,
please
just
be
careful
that
we're
abiding
them.
V
So,
according
to
the
APA,
we
are
required
to
for
the
signs
of
the
door,
windows
and
counter
21,
and
over
and
also
I
bought
a
system
that
any
product
with
tobacco.
It
will
ask
for
an
ID
and
it
will
scan
it.
The
transaction
will
not
go
through
unless
it's
a
license.
Can
anyone
who
looks
from
like
20
to
maybe
50
years
old,
we're
gonna
ask
for
that
idea?.
V
It's
going
to
be
scanned
with
the
date
of
birth.
The
scanner
will
tell
me,
even
if
it's
five,
so
this
is
a
new
Option
and
so
I'll
make
sure
I
will
not
sell
to
under
eight
I.
Do
have
15
years
old
and
myself
I
don't
smoke
but
I.
They
just
do
it
for
things.
I
Best
of
luck
and
great
to
see
you
opening
a
business
here.
I
C
E
Okay,
the
applicants
have
been
up
in
front
of
us
before
you
need
to
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
again.
Please
Priscilla.
F
E
E
V
E
Okay:
next,
we
have
a
massage
therapist
license:
Tree
of
Life
Massage
Therapy
applicant.
Please
step
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
business.
Please.
My.
J
Yes,
DEA
you're
welcome,
I
am
a
massage
therapist
and
also
holistic
healer
I
do
everything
by
appointment,
usually
not
past
eight
o'clock,
but
sometimes
other
than
that
I
mean
I,
currently
practice
in
Warwick
I'm,
also
a
certified
occupational
therapy
assistant.
So
a
lot
of
the
clients
I
deal
with
are
clients
who
need
rehab
in
the
sense
of
you,
know,
surgeries
or
trauma
dealing
with
trauma.
I,
don't
know
how
to
explain
it
so
yeah.
That's
it
that's
about
it.
B
L
E
C
You
can
contact
Miranda
in
the
morning.
Okay,.
W
Cranston
Police
they've
done
for
at
a
fall
festival
in
the
past
I,
don't
know
if
they've
done
a
Spring
Festival,
they
typically
had
it
at
the
off
sockinosa
Crossroad,
so
they
want
to
bring
it
out
more
to
the
community
onto
the
streets
and
so
they're
asking
to
they
had
asked
if
they
could
do
a
one-day
event.
I
believe
it's
a
Sunday
I
think
it
was
May
21st
and
they
yeah
basically
make
it
very
much
a
community
event
they're
going
to
have
various
booths.
W
N
E
To
the
city
of
Cranston,
okay:
next
we
have
I'd
like
to
note
that
we
have
a
scribness
era.
It
says
Gilmore
Academy
LLC
and
it's
really
grimoire
Academy
spelled
g-r-I
-m-o-I-r-e.
E
Hello
I
would
I
would
assume
that
you're
from
grimoire
Academy.
Could
you
please
state
your
name
and
address
and
please
speak
directly
into
the
microphone.
H
Yes,
this
particular
event.
Yes,
but
we
have
been
here
before.
E
None
at
this
time,
Madam
click.
Please
take
a
vote
on
that
license.
C
H
E
E
We
did
that
already
I'm,
sorry
jacked
off
okay.
Next
we
have
a
ritualing
license:
Lila
and
Athena's
LLC
doing
business
as
Athena's
Restaurant.
My
favorite
breakfast
place
existing
business
under
new
ownership
to
if
you
want
to
pronounce
your
last
name.
N
N
And
The
Business
is
going
to
stay
the
same.
Nothing
is
going
to
change,
we're.
Keeping
everything
the
same.
He's
Chris
is
just
stepping
out
I'm
going
to
be
stepping
in
the
hours
are
the
same
62.,
nothing
is
going
to
be
changing,
everything's
staying
the
same
breakfast
and
lunch,
and
this
is
pretty
much
it.
C
E
Discussion
of
questions
for
the
applicant
from
the
council,
not
at
this
time,
Madam
click-
please
take
a
vote
on
this
Cosmic.
E
E
E
E
D
E
Okay:
next,
we
have
monthly
schedules.
I
need
a
vote
on
to
enter
these
lists
into
the
event
into
the
record.
I
need
a
vote
to
enter
these
lists
into
the
record.
C
E
E
Please
note
that
we
have
licenses
that
are
issued
administratively
mobile
food
establishments
case
ice
cream,
Mac
screaming
the
Hot
Potato,
the
moo-mobile,
all
renewals.
We
do
not
vote
on
those.
We
have
one
Council
communication
item:
councilman
Donegan.
You
got
the
floor.
I
Thank
you
chairman,
just
quickly
the
you
know
earlier
in
the
winter,
there
was
well
now
we're
in
the
spring.
Earlier
in
the
year
during
the
winter,
there
was
that
one
weekend
where
there
was
severe
cold
and
I
know
that
the
Mayors,
the
mayor's
office
and
team,
as
well
as
the
in
coordination
with
the
fire
department,
worked
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
warming,
Center,
open,
24,
7,
I,
think
at
the
at
the
senior
center
and
I
guess.
I
The
the
question
I
have
is
is
like
is
going
forward
in
preparation
for
next
year.
You
know,
should
the
city
have
any
sort
of
you
know
permanent
plan
for
when
it
hits
X
degrees
whatever
that
might
be,
there
will
be
a
warming
Center
open
that
way.
People
can
be
and
prepare
for
that
and
can
be
better
informed
and
and
not
be
kind
of.
You
know,
instance,
by
instance,
where
people
might
be
left
wondering
whether
or
not
something's
going
to
be
open.
I
H
E
E
Question
to
the
administration
sure
well,
whoever
we
have
the
fire
chief
here
ready
to
speak.
Thank
you.
X
Yeah,
so
we
would
conjunction
with
the
Rhode
Island
EMA
until
we
get
the
message
out
who
then
they
use
social
media,
immediate,
Outlets,
2-1-1,
that's
how
we
get
the
message
out.
Every
Monday
we
have
a
weather
update,
give
us
up
Monday
just
to
see
how
cold
it's
going
to
be
in
the
next.
Fourth,
eight
to
fourteen
then
30
days.
X
That's
how
we
point
it
you're
like
if
it's
super
cold,
we
try
to
do
open
up
the
senior
center
overnight
and
start
that
with
someone
in
response
for
the
last
Winter's
cold,
we
had
done
that.
So
we
set
the
senior
center
up.
We
also
visited
the
best
Street
Armory
that
we
needed
to
move
people
quickly.
We
could
do
it
throughout
the
night.
We
would
do
it
through
that
it
would
take
more
I,
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
be
impossible
next
year.
X
We
want
to
see
these
kind
of
a
movie
Pockets,
sometimes
housing.
As
you
know,
we
did
plan
on.
We
had
the
chance
to
please
go
to
any
of
the
known
homeless,
encampments
in
the
city
and
notify
them
of
the
cold
weather,
and
if
that
they
need
to
be
moved,
we
would
move
stuff.
That's
what
we
try
to
plan
on
I
think
we
were
ahead
of
it.
This
year,
like
I,
said
it
was
only
one
really
cold
weekend.
It
was
very
cool.
X
Use,
but
we
have
people
that
do
use
it,
they
do
use
it
more
for
cooling
stuffers
we
have
found
out,
and
the
senior
center
is
also
open.
It's
on
the
website
around
EMA
I
find
it
hard
to
navigate
through
that
to
find
it
and
I
know
what
I'm
looking
for
I
think
it
could
be
better,
especially
during
the
winter
or
the
summer.
Have
it
right
on
the
front.
I
All
right
do
you
think
next
year
it
could
be
possible
that
if
we
know
it's
going
to
be,
you
know
under
15
degrees
that
there
will.
You
know,
definitely
be
something
open
that
we
can
get
word
out,
or
is
that
something
that
we
have
to.
X
Man,
we
do
use
social
media
and
again
you
know
the
large
media
Outlets
is
how
we
use
everybody,
how
they
do
it.
We
do
something
on
our
website.
The
city
website,
I'm
sure
we
could
have
something
in
place
and
plan
to
move
forward.
If
it
does
gets,
you
know,
whatever
we
determine
to
be
a
good
temperature
to
bring
the
system
up
and
running
I
think
that's
fair.
E
Thank
you
just
to
make
a
note
director
already
once
you
did,
notify
us
I,
think
everybody
here
pretty
much
shared
it
and
and
that
post-cut
shared
like
hundreds
of
times
throughout
the
city,
so
the
faster.
We
know
the
better,
the
better
it'll
be
for
even
us
to
put
it
to
our
social
media.
Yes,.
W
I'm
trying
to
recall
something
too,
is
something
we
can't
do
if
we
didn't
do
it
and
thinking
when
I
saw
that
as
a
issue
press
releases,
as
the
chief
says,
we
do
work
with
the
media
and
that'd
be
the
perfect.
In
my
opinion,
you
know
the
perfect
medium
this.
So
when
we
see
this
coming
up
to
have
those
press
release
available
and
they
obviously
they're
gracious
to
publicize
it.
So
we'll
keep
that
more.
Be
more
aware
of
that
and
we.
W
X
Lot
of
people
that
do
need
the
warming
Center,
don't
have
social
media
or
access
to
that.
So
that
was
one
of
our
biggest
plans
was:
how
did
the
police
go
out
to
known
and
tell
them?
If
you
need
a
ride,
we
can
get
you
somewhere.
We
will
get
you
something.
That's
why
I
contacted
the
Armory,
the
middle
of
the
night.
We
will
get
someone
there
and
I
would
drive
myself.
W
Into
into
that
point,
I
don't
know
if
the
chief
mentioned
it
at
least
did
go
out
to
the.
Not
only
just
warning
go
give
people
a
heads
up
about
the
location
of
the
warming
centers,
but
where
the
whole
homeless
and
campus
were
there
were
none
during
those
very
cold
times,
not
just
that
one
night,
but
there
were
several
nights
that
they
do
routinely.
You
know
notify
the
folks
and
go
by
there
to
check
up
on
them.
A
E
Thank
you
very
much
Council
vice
president
of
August.
M
Thank
you,
chairman,
Chief,
good
evening,
just
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
that
as
well.
When
we
do
get
the
word
out
to
your
point
right,
like
probably
the
the
social
media
as
much
as
you
do,
it
may
not
get
to
those
who
do
need
it,
but
do
we
also
disseminate
any
of
the
information,
at
least
to
the
churches?
Do
we
have
like
a
list
that
perhaps
they
might
be
able
to.
A
M
Within,
like
you
know,
or
at
least
know
just
you
know,
it
might
be
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
other
cities
who
do
that
and
I.
Don't
know
how
they
do
it,
though
I'll
be
honest
with
you,
but
I
think
if
we
right,
but
we
it's
working
collaboratively
right,
we're
reaching
out
of
one
of
the
Cities
just
to
kind
of
get
a
sense,
but
just
just
a
thought
on
that
for
the
near
future,
if
that's
even
possible
yeah,
but
thanks
again,
chief.
E
I
G
I
A
I
Committee
business
matters
carried
over
for
this
evening.
There
were
two
that
were
under
my
communities
from
the
previous
meeting.
The
first
was
the
exploration
of
a
liability
policy
for
the
city.
If
I
recall
correctly,
I
believe
the
administration
was
was
looking
into
that.
Is
there
any
update
on
this
matter
at
this?
At
this
time,.
F
Through
the
chant
of
the
council,
as
we
said
back
in
February,
we
are
working
with
a
I'm
going
to
use
firm
third
party
administrator
I,
a
company
that
does
this
or
an
entity.
We
are
still
working
through
that
issue,
I'm
getting
them
the
information
they
need,
so
they
can
provide
a
a
quote
for
us
to
review.
I
Thank
you
director,
do
you?
Is
there
any
and
I
know
you
know
the
past
couple
weeks
you've
been
putting
the
budget
together
so
I
recognize
that
your
your
priorities,
understandably,
have
been.
You
know
on
the
budget
or
elsewhere.
Presumably,
is
there
a
reasonable
timeline?
You
think
that
we
might
have
a
a
tangible
from
that
third
party
administrator
through
the.
F
I
Right,
thank
you
director
through
the
clerk.
If
we
could
I
think
90
days,
then,
would
put
us
at
at
May
if
we
could
put
this
on
the
May
agenda.
I
And
then
also
under
Communications
from
last
month,
I'm
sorry,
what
before
we
move
on,
did
anyone
else
on
the
committee?
Have
any
comments
regarding
that
matter?
I
Okay,
there
was
also
a
discussion
of
the
legal
vendor
report.
I
do
want
to
recognize
that
directors
did.
I
G
I
Do
we
need
a
I,
don't
believe
we
need
to
vote
on
this,
just
because
it's
it's
under
Communications,
but
I
appreciate
the
motion
in
the
second.
I
Okay
before
us
is
ordinance,
2-2307,
ordinance
and
amendment
of
title
III
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
Cranston
2005,
entitled
revenue
and
finance
chapter
3.97030,
15
years,
Economic
Development
tax
incentive
program
for
property
located
at
661,
Park
Avenue
and
271
thoric
Avenue
tax
stabilization
agreement
sponsored
right,
councilman,
Ferry
and
co-sponsored
by
councilwoman
Renzulli.
This
was
continued
at
the
last
meeting.
I
All
right,
there's
no
other
correspondence
or
Communications
before
us
this
evening.
At
this
time,
I
will
open
up
the
floor
to
the
public
for
any
public
comment,
we'll
start
with
those
members
here
in
person
and
then
we'll
move
to
anyone
that
is
here
via
Zoom.
Y
Y
You
know,
as
a
former
elected
official
I,
occasionally
look
at
all
the
items
that
come
before
the
city
and
I
always
stay
Akin
of
to
what's
happening,
and
so
are
the
announcement
last
week
by
our
mayor
that
you
know
is
looking
forward
to
building
a
new
pool
and
a
new
Splash
Pad
at
the
side
of
the
old
pool.
So
I
look
forward
to
coming
here
tonight
and
hearing
you
debate
the
resolution,
that's
on
the
docket
asking
for
350
000
for
basically
which
looks
like
a
site
survey
for
a
project.
Y
That's
not
approved
yet
procedurally
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
odd
that
we'd
be
asking
for
funding
for
something
that
this
Council
really
hasn't,
debated
or
approved.
You
know
kind
of
an
odd
concept
because
the
this
body
might
not
approve
the
pool.
You
may
decide
in
your
wisdom
that
the
budget
cannot
afford
a
project
of
this
magnitude.
They
decide.
This
project
needs
to
be
smaller.
You
may
decide
it
needs
to
be
bigger,
so
I,
don't
know
why
we
would
allocate
350
000
until
we
know
what
this
body
is
going
to
approve
for
the
budget.
Y
It's
the
only
kind
of
question
I
had
as
you
guys
go
through
it
I'm
hoping
someone
will
ask
why
we're
doing
this
now,
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
the
budget
process
to
get
through
that
process
to
understand
what's
approved
by
this
body,
so
you
can
move
forward
and
approve
some
kind
of
spending
for
for
a
study.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
Z
Z
Z
Items.
Okay,
so
you
have
a
documented
item
that
apparently
you're
going
to
decide
whether
to
spend
350
000.
on
a
site
survey.
Feasibility
study
for
a
plan
submitted
by
the
mayor
and
my
position
as
a
citizen
of
Branson
is
that
if
this
committee's
job
is
to
just
approve
and
spend
money
for
whatever
the
mayor
wants,
then
we
don't
have
a
lot
to
talk
about.
Z
Z
A
couple
of
times
and
I
have
not
heard
one
word
representing
the
voices
of
anybody
in
the
citizen
of
great
citizens
and
Craftsman,
especially
not
the
350
people
who
bought
passes
to
the
pool
or
the
people
who
didn't
bypass
this
before
who
might
bypasses
if
the
pool
was
configured
in
Turkey
and
this
might
be
the
right
configuration
or
it
might
not
be,
but
I
think
the
most
important
question
that
this
committee
should
be
have
an
answer
to
well.
I
mean
a
some
kind
of
verifiable
answer
is
what
are
the
people
of
Cranston
want?
Z
So
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
that,
except
for
one
informal
survey
that
got
about
150
responses
about
being
in
favor
of
or
not
in
favor
of
this
plan,
and
the
large
majority
of
those
responses
were
not
in
favor
of
this
plan.
Z
So
this
is
anecdotal.
It's
not
necessity.
It's
not
a
formal
survey,
but
it's
as
far
as
I
can
tell
all
you've
got
from
the
people
of
Cranston
saying
what
do
they
want
so
before
I
spent
350
000
on
the
mayor's
plan?
I
wouldn't
want
to
make
sure
that
was
the
best
part
or
the
plan
that
the
people
want.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
seeing
no
other
members
of
the
public
this
evening
in
person
that
wish
to
speak
Tom.
Is
there
anyone
online
that
wishes
to
speak?
I,
see
no
public
comment
on
Zoom.
Thank
you
at
this
time,
I'll
close
public
comment
and
I
I
do
apologize.
We
should
recognize
former
council
president
Michael
Farina,
who
is
here
this
evening.
Thank
you
for
your
years
of
service
and
thank
you
for
being
here
this
evening
before
us
this
evening.
We
do
have
several
new
matters,
the
first
being
ordinance
3-23-01.
I
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
we
have
a
second
if
it
is
appropriate
through
the
clerk,
if
the
seeing
that
this
is
sponsored
by
Mayor
Hopkins.
Is
there
anyone
from
the
administration
that
would
like
to
introduce
this
to
the
committee.
W
Sure,
as
we
know,
probably
for
the
past
at
least
a
year
year
and
a
half
there's
been
much
enthusiasm
expressed
from
every
member
of
the
city
council,
not
necessarily
formally
in
the
form
of
a
vote,
but
has
expressed
tremendous
urgency
in
questioning
how
come
a
new
pool
hasn't
been
built
or
how
come
the
existing
pool
has
not
been
repaired,
and
you
all
know
it.
W
It
appears
that
every
almost
every
councilwoman
award
II
has
done
a
great
job
of
mentioning
this
from
months
and
months
on
end
about
bringing
up
this
topic
for
updates.
So
I
don't
think
anyone
here
should
be
very
surprised
that
the
mayor
put
forward
this
resolution
because
of
that
urgency
that
the
council
has
also
informally
expressed,
as
we
know,
at
all
the
meetings.
So
with
that
the
it
was
determined,
as
you
all
know,
that
structurally
the
pool
is
obsolete,
the
bath
house
doesn't
work
with
all
the
requirements.
W
W
So
with
that,
along
with
deficiencies
within
the
structural
deficiencies
within
the
pool,
it
was
determined
that
this
would
pull
the
size
of
it.
Etc
was
not
practically
salvageable.
W
If
you
will
with
that
and
after
those
discussions,
as
you
know
well
communicated
that
the
mayor
had
with
the
urging
of
the
council
going
out
in
with
Mr
moxikosha
from
sakosha
Architects
to
develop
a
an
artist
rendering
of
the
pool
that
information
I
know
was
was
shared
with
with
everyone
that
the
pool
could
have
been
that
a
pool
facility
pertaining
of
a
renovated,
Bath
House,
a
pool
the
potential
for
a
splash
pad
and
other
facility
other
met.
W
Other
amenities
was
shown,
I
know
Council
the
council,
the
councilwoman
Jermaine
was
in
the
mayor's
office
once
the
renderings
were
done.
I
know
she
was
very
supportive
of
it
telling
the
mayor.
It
was
perfect,
it
was
wonderful,
and
so,
with
that
assumption,
the
mayor
went
forward
and
introduced
those
renderings
to
this
Council.
W
With
with
that
support
and
enthusiasm,
they
were
shared.
We
received
the
feedback
from
the
council.
W
Thinking
to
do
the
whole
thing
is
too
much
to
take
on
and,
and
the
mayor
heard
you
and
then
has
gone
back
and
proposed
via
this
ordinance
to
scale
it
back
as
you
requested
to
a
minimal
facility
which
would
would
basically
get
necessities
of
of
renovating
the
bat
house
and
installing
a
pool
or
rebuilding
a
pool
about
a
third
of
the
current
size,
believing
future
phases
of
the
development
as
a
potential
down
the
road,
if
you
know,
should
if
it
should
that
be
the
case.
W
So
in
the
interest
of
time
I
believe
there's
the
mayor
heard
an
urgency
to
have
the
pool
open
for
next
year
and
speaking
with
Mr
bernado
thinking
of
the
with
the
how
undependable
construction
is
nowadays
in
terms
of
securing
contractors
and
Supply.
It's
the
most
prudent
thing
to
do
is
to
initiate
the
process
to
lead
to
the
construction
of
the
pool
and
that
being
the
we
could
have
done.
Two
things.
W
Everything
as
you
know
with
the
city
rightfully
so
has
to
be
properly
vetted
and
we
we
could
have
just
spent
more
money.
Another
x
amount
of
dollars,
thousands
of
dollars
to
basically
show
the
renderings.
The
way
you
have
it,
except
just
it,
can
simply
Envision
the
way
those
drawings
were
just
replace
it
had
a
splash
pad.
Then
a
pool
just
put
the
pool
first
and
stop
there.
W
So
to
save
you
know,
thousands
and
thousands
of
dollars,
that
being
the
only
change,
the
recommendation
or
the
request,
if,
if
this
Council
so
desires,
to
have
a
pool
ready
for
next
year
is
to
secure
the
timing
of
it
by
going
soon,
if
approved
by
the
council,
to
engineering
design
and
development,
those
would
be
the
engineered
drawings
and
with
that
that
doesn't
mean
you're
building
the
pool
off
those
designs.
W
But,
in
terms
of
you
know,
trying
to
hit
you
have
a
pool
open
for
next
summer
share
those
with
this
console
members.
If
you
agree
with
with
that
design,
they
can
be
tweaked,
but
if
you
fundamentally
feel
that
you
want
to
go
at
the
pool
house
and
a
pool
about
a
third
of
the
size
as
a
scale
back
as
far
as
can
be,
the
that
would
be.
The
plan
is
to
get
get
going
with
the
engineering
work
to
you
know
to
be
able
to
have
yourself
another
boy.
W
The
Apple
before
those
designs,
those
engineering
work,
is
finalized.
So
in
the
interest
that
he
heard
the
message
he
heard
the
support
for
the
pool,
but
also
heard
people
saying
they
don't
want
the
pool
to
be
that
that
size
scaled
it
back.
Thinking
he's
going
along
with
the
wishes
of
the
council
and
the
feedback
received
in
the
mayor's
office
from
the
public,
so
we're
presenting
the
opportunity
tonight.
W
If
you
wish
to
proceed
with
with
the
pool
by
going
to
engineered
drawings,
if
you
will
and
but
if,
if
we
I'll
say,
if
the
more
we
wait,
the
more
you
run:
the
risk
of
of
supply
and
availability
of
contractors,
so
it's
up
and
running
next
summer.
So
we
we
offer
that
to
you
and
thinking,
that's
the
suggests.
That's
the
best
route
to
go
if
you're.
If
the
city
council
wishes
to
do
that,
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
I
Thank
you
director.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
committee
that
have
any
questions
or
councilwoman
chairman
and
and
then
Council
vice
president
barcas
I
did
see
you
raise
your
hand
as
well.
B
B
B
B
The
pool
itself
will
be
comprehensively
overall
to
correct
all
deficiencies
and
to
address
the
structural
failures
of
the
poor
shell
and
the
substrate
that
is
causing
the
piping
valves
to
crack
and
leak
this.
This
that's
from
the
purpose
right
one.
This
will
require
the
removal
of
the
liner,
excavation
and
removal
of
the
unsuitable
soils
installing
new
substrate
materials,
and
we
installation
of
the
new
pool
Basin
with
new
joints
and
the
completion
of
the
Interior
pole
finish.
B
This
purpose
are
push
preserves
as
much
as
much
of
the
existing
functions
as
is
and
does
not
focus
on
avoiding
or
changing
the
overall
site
programming,
and
this
proposal
will
cause
between
2.5
and
2
million
dollars,
so
I
with
the
first
one.
That's
the
orange
that
we,
if
we
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
we
citizens,
agree
with,
because
I
made
some
research
I
listened
to
people
some
expert
about
the
polls.
B
B
B
B
If
we
want
to
move
forward
with
option
ones,
we
don't
need
to
spend
350
000
dollars
after
many
Reflections
and
with
use
of
the
feasibility
study.
I
see
a
need
to
hear
now
from
certain
people.
We
have
that
we
have
not
heard
from
them
this
study
so
now
I
would
like
to
know
if
they
may
cannot
use
this
study.
There's
something
that
does
it
work
is.
This
study
is
not
worth
it.
Is
it
a
waste
of
money,
because
if
you
do
study
you,
you
have
to
use
it
now.
B
The
person
will
produce
this
weapon.
The
feasibility
report-
indeed
it
says
Federal
Hill
group
architects.
B
So
we
would
like
to
have
someone
from
this
who
write
this
report
because
I
believe
the
the
pool
has
a
director
they
have
someone
expressed
that
took
care
of
it
for
a
long
time.
So
I
would
like
to
know
in
this
report
if
the
First
Federal
Hill
interviews
or
what
kind
of
measurement
what
are
expert
that
designed
everything
they
said,
because
if
this
is
valid
or
not
valid,
so
that's
my
question
is
this
study
is
valid
or
not
valid.
B
Second,
we
need
to
have
the
inspector
of
public
building
in
Queenston
coinstone
inspector
of
public
buildings
to
come
before
the
council,
because
things
we
don't
know
is
the
bath
house
has
to
be
under
the
inspector
to
keep
up
to
code.
So
that's
one
thing:
so
it's
a
building.
It's
a
public
buildings,
that's
supposed
to
be
on
the
public
and
the
inspect
their
building.
B
So
I
would
like
to
hear
from
him
because
from
one
because
for
what
is
going
on
here,
I
feel
like
we
do
not
have
the
true
nature
of
the
Badland
Court.
We
are
going
around
one
year
around
and
now
we
are
talking
about
designing
and
I
have
to
mention.
I
went
to
the
pool
again
because
I
visited
the
pool.
B
B
But
we
need
to
know
when
this
study
was
done.
It
was
groundwater
because
I
need
to
know
it
was
close.
The
pool
was
closed
in
2019.
He
didn't
open
in
2020,
so
I
want
to
know
from
the
person
who's
running
it
in
2019
how
it's
leak,
because
if
it
was
close
2019
he
hasn't
been
filled.
Since
then,
how
you
can
say
it's
leaked
or
not
leak,
I
wanna
know
I'm,
not
an
expert,
but
we
want
to
unexpect
to
say
that,
because
now
I'm
questioning,
that's
why
I
am
questioning
around
this
study.
B
B
You
will
do
your
bathroom,
you
make
it
beautiful
I!
Think
we
can
take
this
300
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
win
over
bath
house.
He
can
do
it.
So
that's
my
position
here
and
one
thing
to
add
is
we
have
a
population
that
is
growing
Plus
more
than
82
000
people?
Why
we
need
a
smaller
pool
when
we
have
less
people?
B
I
Council
vice
president
pargas
I
think
you
were,
you
would
your
hand
up
as
well.
Did
you
want
to
speak
now
or.
M
So,
first
and
foremost,
I
guess,
council,
member
Jermaine
had
a
few
questions
on
there.
That
I
was
wondering
whether
the
administration
would
be
able
to
respond
to
that,
because
that
might
answer
some
of
the
questions
they're
very
similar
to
what
I
have
and
then,
depending
on
that
response.
I
have
additional
questions
to
be
then
asked.
W
I
I
heard
a
couple
of
things.
First
of
all,
referring
to
that
Federal
Hill
Architects
I
forget
their
exact
name
report
Federal.
M
Which
is
a
feasibility
study
that
was
submitted,
To
Us
by
direct
assignment
exactly
I,
think
it
was
sent
to
us
back
in
February
of
2000
2022.
yeah.
W
Yeah
about
I
guess
the
gist
of
that
I
guess
that
first
phase
of
the
councilwoman
is
in
favor
of
I
believe
is
to
spend
about
two
and
a
half
to
three
million
dollars
to
renovate
the
existing
pool.
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
gist
of
it
upon
the
Engineers.
Look
at
it.
It's
a
failed
pool.
W
The
administration
is
told
that
by
by
the
engineers
and
the
experts,
so
it
is
not
the
mayor
making
that
up
that
the
pool
is
irreparable.
You
can
repair
anything
but
for
a
cost
now
to
have
a
new
pool
with
a
with
a
renovated
bath
house
for
approximately
the
same
price.
Perhaps
so
we
don't
know
the
exact
cost.
Yet
this
is
what,
when
you
get
down
to
the
engineering
designs
and
work
and
which
are
the
actual
blueprints
for
the
pool,
get
you
right
down
to
construction
documents.
That's
when
you
have
a
better
idea.
W
When
you
have
to
find
out
the
cost
of
the
pool,
it
might
be
three
million
dollars,
it
might
be
the
same
amount,
so
you
might
have
a
brand
new
pool.
That's
going
to
last
Generations
I,
don't
know
about
Generations,
but
at
least
a
generation
are
two
for
the
long
term
versus
repairing
a
pool
that
is
in
the
process.
That's
decaying
and
failing
as
we
go
along.
So
if
that
clarifies
that
second
of
all
the
engineered,
it's
not
a
study,
it's
design,
development
construction
documents.
W
W
The
other
thing
that's
very
disappointing
that
for
months
and
months
and
months
for
several
months,
we've
been
saying,
as
everyone
here
was
party
to
that
we
had
the
concept
of
the
architectural
Concepts.
We
didn't
hear
any
objection
to
preceding
that
down
that
that
direction
versus
going
back
to
the
study.
I,
don't
think
this
topic
has
brought
up
about
this
Federal
Hill
group
for
many
many
many
months
before.
So
that's
fine!
W
You
want
to
resurrect
it
and
you
want
to
go
in
that
direction,
but
you
you're
kind
of
telling
us
one
thing
and
coming
back
at
us
a
different
way
and
if
you
don't
want
to
proceed,
that's
perfectly
fine,
but
the
last
time
we
met
I
believe
I
even
made
a
statement.
I
believe
it's
consensus
here
that
you
people
you
folks,
want
to
proceed
in
the
direction
we
were
talking
about
with
their
new
design.
W
W
If
you
don't
want
to
do
it,
that's
fine,
but
may
is
doing
everything
he
can't
tease
this
thing
up
for
you
and
that's
really
what
it's
about,
and
but
it's
not
the
mayor
making
up
it's,
not
the
mayor's
pool,
I,
don't
think
he's
going
to
be
going
in
it
very
often
he's
hearing
it
from
the
council
and
the
people
that
we
receive
feedback
that
you
see
on
social
media
from
the
mayor's
office.
Etc
yeah,
it's
subjective.
W
In
that
sense,
we
didn't
we
didn't
do
a
poll,
we
didn't
go
to
an
election
to
tell
us,
we
want
the
pool
or
not,
but
I
think
we
got
a
pretty
pretty
good
consensus
here
wanting
to
move
forward
and
thought
we
were
doing
the
right
thing
to
have
these
architectural
drawings
and
Concepts.
That
I
know
councilwoman
from
Ward
2
absolutely
congratulated
them.
They
bought
in
and
was
elated
in
his
office
over
what
she
saw.
W
I
Recognized
I'll
recognized
councilwoman
Jermain.
B
B
So
the
design
looked
good.
I
said
that's
beautiful,
yes,
but
now
the
question
is:
can
we
afford
it
so
I
never
said
this
doesn't
look
good.
He
looked
good.
Yes,
you
look
good.
Everybody
was
saying
yes,
that's
no
good,
but
can
the
queen
queenstone
now
offer
that's
original
thing,
seven
million
dollars,
because
the
last
time
I
asked
you
the
question:
where
are
we
gonna
find
the
seven
million?
Because
of
what
you
propose,
this
beautiful
picture
is
a
seven
million
dollar
cost
so
be
realistic.
B
So
don't
mention
my
name
to
say:
oh
I,
agree.
No
I
said
that
beautiful
that
will
now.
Let's
come,
let's
come,
let's
come
down.
Let's
look:
let's
look
at
where
we
going
to
find
the
money
to
do
it
and
my
constituent
when
I
meet
with
them,
when
they
email
me,
they
said
you
know
some
of
them,
some
of
them
and
then
say
we
don't
even
need
a
bath
house.
We
can
go
home,
we
take
a
shower.
B
B
So
the
consensus
is,
you
know,
that's
when
I
don't
understand
what
happened,
because
let
me
quote
this
for
you
again
last
time
you
were
here
Maori
when
I
asked
you
the
question
and
all
the
council
members
said
we
need
a
pool
and
a
bath
house,
and
then
you,
when
you
present
this,
we
all
say
we
need
a
pool
and
a
bath
house.
Now
when
I
ask
you
yes,
this
look
beautiful,
but
when
we're
gonna
have
the
money,
you
couldn't
answer
that
question.
B
B
So
it's
going
to
be
a
pull
and
a
bath
house
for
the
original
price
of
about
3.7
million
dollars.
This
is
what
I
assume
the
mayor
says.
Now
the
mirror
comes
out
within
a
press
conference
say
a
totally
different
thing.
So
if
someone
is
this,
something
is
missing
here.
If
this
is
the
word
that
whatever
is
lying
or
someone
else
is
lying,
so
that's
what
it
is.
So
don't
tell
me
I
agree
I,
just
I
say:
yes,
that's
beautiful,
and
anyone
who
saw
this.
They
say
that
beautiful,
but
the
question
is:
can
we
afford
it?
B
No,
the
summer
is
coming
so
that's
mean
we're
gonna
spend
because
we
have
some
fantasy
in
our
head.
We
want
to
do
so.
This
summer
will
come
again
and
no
pool
for
the
people,
because
what
you
present
here
is
having
a
study
to
have
a
design
or
whatever
it
is,
and
now
how
long
it's
gonna
take
to
have
a
pool
and
one
one
more
thing.
One
more
thing:
I
question
right
now:
I
question
I
question
the
status
of
the
pool
so
I
want
that's.
Why
I
said
I
wanna
hear
from
those
three
people.
B
So
if
we
have
to
give
some
more
money
for
something
we
need
to
know
the
truth,
because
I
am
not
comfortable
with
all
of
these
things
that
have
been
said
because
we
don't
know
who
did
it?
No
with
the
person
who
did
it
cannot
come
before
us
to
own
this
study
because
the
person
couldn't
come
to
own
this
study
they
did
and
there
were
there
is
in
the
former
director,
never
say
a
word.
B
Okay
and
I.
Don't
think
anyone
contact
him
or
if
they
contact
me,
he
didn't
want
to
talk
I,
don't
know
because
he
has
to
come
to
say
the
truth.
What
is
what
is
the
current
condition?
That's
now
I'm
questioning
now
because
I
didn't
question
questioning
it
before,
but
now
you
make
me
really
questioning
what
is
really
the
status
of
the
bad
language.
W
I
I
I
cannot
let
something
go
on
on
remarked.
I
Absolutely
you
will
have
the
next
word:
I
just
wanna
momentarily
over
the
next
course.
The
next
five
weeks
we're
going
to
be
spending
a
lot
of
time
together
in
this
room.
I
just
want
to
all
of
us
to
just
take
a
moment.
Remember
that,
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
gonna
have
to
sit
here
and
work
together.
So
let's
just
keep
that
in
mind.
Whatever
comments
people
have,
let's
please
keep
it
to.
I
This
goes
for
everyone
I
just
ask
that
we
keep
the
comments
on
topic
about
this
proposal,
not
about
conversations
outside
of
these
these
doors
and
not
about
one
another
in
personal
attacks
that
goes
for
everyone.
If
that
happens,
I
will
ask
you
to
stop,
and
I
will
give
the
floor
to
someone
else
with
that
said
director
you
have
the
floor
and
then
I
would
like
to
recognize
Council
minority
leader
renzuli
next.
W
Two
or
three
points
one,
not
one
person
here,
came
forward
and
voiced
opposition
to
a
in
in
the
last
couple
of
months
after
they've
seen
the
renderings
right
other
than
saying
you
want
to
scale
those
renderings
back
in
the
mail,
listen
to
you,
but
no
one
ever
went
back
and
said:
go
look
at
the
original
pool
and
just
fix
what
we
got.
Okay,
no
one
said
that
no
one
objected
to
to
the
no
one
came
forward
to
us,
so
we're
trying
to
be
helpful,
but
I
do
have
to
say
this.
W
AB
W
It's
it's
included
in
that
we
won't
know
the
I'll
say
a
more
firm
number
until
you
actually
have
a
construction
document,
you're
able
to
get
quotations
from
them.
But
yes,
the
three
and
a
half
million
dollar
range
include
this
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
is
estimated
to
be
included
in
the
three
and
a
half
million
dollar
range
of
this
project.
AB
That
is
a
very
basic
study
to
my
understanding
and
what
you're
trying
to
do
now
is
actually
engineering
and
design
phase,
which
has
to
happen
one
way
or
the
other.
Before
we
build
the
pool
we
can't
go
from
as
far
as
I
understand
it.
In
looking
at
multiple
proposals
in
Newton
Massachusetts
in
Boston,
Massachusetts
and
New
York
City,
they
all
have
these
phases
that
I've
lost
more
money
than
I
would
think
they
could
cost.
But
I'm
not
an
engineer.
So
that's
why
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
money,
I
think.
AB
AB
AB
Well,
it
was
debated
whether
to
take
that
pool
right
out
of
the
capital
budget
and
as
far
as
I
understand
as
far
as
some
legal
people
have
told
me,
if
they
took
it
out
of
the
budget,
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
put
it
back
and
use
Bond
money
for
it.
So
I
got
up
and
I
spoke
and
I
said
the
will
of
the
council
and
as
far
as
I
understand
the
will,
the
mayor
is
to
do
something
with
this
pool
just
want
to
let
not
be
known.
AB
Last
year
it
was
incorrectly
put
into
the
capital
budget,
so
we
couldn't
even
do
it.
If
we
wanted
to
now,
we
want
to
do
it.
I
do
I
can
understand
what
former
president
Farina
is
saying
about
spending
350
000
before
we
go
through
the
budget
process.
However,
if
we
wait
till
we
go
through
the
budget
process,
then
it's
July
1st.
Then
we
have
to
go
every
time.
We
want
to
have
a
meeting
it's
another
month.
We
got
to
put
it
in.
AB
It's
got
to
go
to
committee,
it's
going
to
go
to
full
Council,
then
in
September,
then
someone's
saying
we
didn't
open
the
pool,
then
it's
November,
then
it's
snowing.
We
can't
do
anything.
We
live
in
New
England.
We
want
to
build
the
school,
we
have
to
freaking,
do
it
well,
we
have
to
buy
everyone
passes
to
the
Alpine
because
we're
wasting
our
time
so
I'm
not
saying
that
this
is
I.
Agree
with
this
100
I,
don't
know
I'm
not
an
engineer,
but
he
moved
it
back.
That
pool
was
built
in
1940.
AB
Every
other
pool
built
in
WPA
era
has
already
been
closed
or
redone.
We
can't
plug
holes
in
the
pool
anymore,
and
now
we
have
arpa
money.
The
budget
is
a
little
better.
It's
going
in
the
capital
budget.
We
have
a
bond
I,
don't
understand
why
we're
now
wanting
to
waste
more
time
questioning
a
study
from
last
year.
We
already
questioned
it
last
year.
We're
over
it
on
to
the
next
one,
so
we're
just
going
to
decide.
AB
If
we
want
to
do
this
or
not,
and
that
and
that's
that's
it,
that's
how
I
see
it
and
I'm
saying
that
with
the
respects
to
everybody
and
if
we
can
scale
it
back,
it
sounds
like
the
mayor
wanted
to
scale
it
back
to
the
plan
that
you
are
saying:
councilwoman,
Jermaine
and
making
an
ADA
Compliant.
The
pool
as
it
is,
is
not
ADA
Compliant.
It
needs
to
be
changed.
The
bath
house
is
not
ADA
Compliant.
The
department
of
health
will
not
license
us.
The
way
that
that
is
so.
Everyone
go
online
I'll.
AB
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
And
if
we
want
to
spend
four
million
dollars
on
a
pool-
and
that's
not
what
the
people
really
want
to
do
in
budget
times,
putting
out
a
bond
to
spend,
four
million
dollars
is
really
going
to
cost
you
six
million
for
a
pool.
That's
going
to
hold
a
hundred
people,
because
the
old
pool
held
300.
If
it's
going
to
be
one-third
the
size.
I
E
D
Thank
you,
chairman
done
again
through
the
chair
team.
Administration
I
have
one
question
for
you:
if
the
pool
gets
fixed
up
and
is
a
back
open
and
whatever
rendition,
it
is
scale
back.
The
water
park
really
nice
drawings
that
we
did
see
and
Etc.
Is
it
going
to
be
open
to
the
summer
camp
programs
for
the
kids
to
use
the
four
or
five
weeks
of
the
summer
camps.
W
I
Director
just
want
to
councilman
Pablo
Vasquez
has
the
floor
after
he
is
done
with
his
questions.
I'll
certainly
allow
you
to
address
anything,
and
then
we
can
thank.
D
You
let
me
get
the
train
back
on
the
track,
says
my
train
of
thought.
Thank
you
director.
So
you
know
I
came
here
tonight.
You
know
with
that
question
in
mind.
The
summer
camp
program
because
I
think
having
the
pool
of
some
sort
for
the
kids
during
the
summer
is
extremely
important.
I
also
remember
back
on
July
18th,
this
Council
passed
unanimously
a
resolution
to
spend
money
on
the
pool
and
by
the
way,
I
also
appreciate
the
mayor.
D
Putting
this
proposal
forward
to
spend
Opera
funds-
okay
and
trying
to
do
something
here
with
the
pool,
because
it
has
been
a
Hot
Topic
that
we've
talked
about
for
a
while
and
I
know.
Last
year
we
couldn't
do
it
and
it's
not
safe
and
we
want
to
make
the
pool
safer.
Lemaya
wants
to
make
the
pool
safe.
So
I
certainly
appreciate
that
the
sentiment
him
trying
to
get
this
started
working
with
the
administration.
D
D
D
I,
don't
know
what
which
way
I'm
going
to
vote
now,
because,
honestly,
when
I
hear
from
the
from
councilman
councilman
Germaine,
maybe
you
want
to
go
a
different
direction,
so
I'm
trying
I
want
to
help
I
want
the
pool
for
the
kids
I
want
the
summer
camp
program
to
have
it,
but
now
I'm
getting
conflicted
when
it
comes
down
to
this.
Because
of
all
the
discussion
that
we're
having
back
and
forth
on
whether
to
do
this
or
not
do
this
certainly
the
money's
there
in
the
capital
budget?
D
You
know
if
the
council
decided
to
take
it
out,
I,
don't
think
this
money
is
going
to
be
spent
between
now
and
we
meet
on
Amendment
night.
That's
another
question
to
the
chair
to
director:
Moretti:
will
this
money
be
spent
by
the
time
this
Council
approves
the
capital
budget.
W
That
quick
well,
we
would
contract
the
services
to
begin
to
commit
that
spending.
Let
me
say
that,
would
they
would
the
drawings
be
back
by
then
that's
probably
about
the
time
frame.
The
drawings
will
be
back,
but
certainly
that
commitment
would
be
water
over
the
bridge
under
the
bridge.
I'm.
Sorry,
okay,
thank.
D
D
W
D
D
If
that
can
be
fixed
or
not,
and
we.
D
Need
to
spend
enough
we've
got
to
remember
that
we
need
to
spend
these
Opera
funds
by
December
31st
2026,
if
I
remember
correctly
so
I,
don't
think
it's
out
of
line
asking
now
take
a
look
at
this
and
possibly
spend
this.
So
that's
all
the
comments
I
have
for
tonight,
but
I,
you
know
I
do
support
doing
something.
We
need
a
pool
for
the
kids
and
you
know
appreciate
everybody's
passion
on
it,
whatever
side
you're
the
table
you're
on
thanks.
Thank.
I
You
councilman
I
I,
do
want
to
recognize
council
president
Mourinho.
AC
Thank
you.
While
it's
on
my
mind,
councilman
Paul
blaskus,
we
have
to
allocate
it
by
December
31st
2024
and
spend
it
by
December,
31st
2026..
So
so
I
am
frankly
embarrassed
that
we
are
here
at
this
point,
something
so
simple,
something
that
we
agree
all
should
be
operational.
Something
we
also
agree
on
is
that
we
should
do
it
at
as
low
of
a
cost
as
we
possibly
can,
and
yet
we
still
haven't
begun
to
accomplish
that
goal
and
councilman
Germain
is
right
to
have
her
reservations
and
her
concerns.
AC
AC
There
was
no
bid
waiver
and
whether
that
was
proper
or
not
doesn't
matter.
We
know
it
didn't
it
doesn't
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
be
now.
AC
The
administration
is
coming
to
us,
asking
Council
to
approve
350
000
for
this
design
and
construction
plans
that
you're
mentioning,
and
yet
it
from
my
account
I
think,
would
put
some
of
the
council
members
more
at
ease,
as
is
if
the
administration
would
have
it's
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse.
Okay,
the
proper
process
would
have
been
and
would
have
created,
more
trust
in
in
the
the
actions
being
taken
in
terms
of
the
design.
If
the
contract
and
purchaser
goes
out
and
puts
out,
this
forbid
gets
proposals
and
then
we'll
know,
hey,
look.
AC
Three
people
came
back
and
said
it's
going
to
cost
350
000
to
give
us
the
design
plan,
and
then
you
come
to
council
and
you
say:
hey:
we
put
it
out
to
bid
three
different
companies.
These
are
the
bids
we
got.
You
know
you
know
our
purchasing
agent
says
hey.
This
is
this
was
the
best
bid.
This
is
the
company.
This
is
what
it's
going
to
cost.
Then
you
come
to
us
and
I
think
that
some
of
us
I
know
for
myself.
I'd
be
a
lot
more
comfortable,
saying.
AC
Okay,
because
we
could
see
what
were
the
specs.
What's
the
design,
what's
the
plan
in
place
and
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be
and
then
we
can
decide
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
spend
that
money,
but
to
just
be
sitting
here
and
asking
the
same
Council
to
just
trust
that
the
administration
is
going
to
use
350
000
of
plans
when
ten
thousand
dollars
was
spent
on
worthless
plans.
That's
asking
a
lot
and
to
say
that
no
one
likes
the
delay,
but
things
has
to
be
have
to
be
done.
The
right
way.
AC
That's
not
our
fault.
As
we
sit
here
and
the
fact
the
mayor
had
plans
drawn
up,
then
the
mayor
took
it
upon
himself
to
have
those
plans
drawn
up.
He
didn't
ask
for
a
public
work
workshop
with
the
council.
You
know
to
say
that
you
know
just
because
he
had
some
plans
and
no
one
came
forward
and
said
those
were
no
good
that
that's
not
that's,
not
fair.
AC
You
know
if
any
one
of
us
were
doing
this
with
respect
to
our
own
home
or
property.
That's
the
way
you
do.
It
you'd
find
out
what
the
cost
is.
First
from
the
firms
for
the
plans,
and
then
you
just
then
you
allocate
the
money
and
then
take
it
from
there.
AC
And
and
one
other
thing,
I
want
to
say,
I
appreciate,
councilman
Ferry,
you
know
doing
a
survey
and
asking
people,
however,
did
that
pool
has
a
history
of
serving
mostly
to
councilman
pavlowski's
point
the
children
of
Cranston,
okay,
I
have
heard
from
other
children
the
first
summer
that
we
were
in
Council
and
it
was
closed.
Kids
on
the
you
know,
on
the
fields
that
live
in
the
eastern
part
of
the
city
were
like
yeah
I
usually
go
to
the
Budlong
pool.
We
can't
it's
closed.
We've
got
no
place
to
go.
AC
M
W
Typically,
and
and
obviously
yeah
I'm
learning,
but
with
the
engineer,
speaking
with
Mr
bernado
that
typically
design
course
for
projects.
This
is
very
typical
in
the
eight
to
ten
percent
of
the
estimated
cost
of
the
project,
and
that's
how
this
is.
These
are
some
of
the
framing
I've
been
wanting
to
do
of
the
numbers
but
yeah
and
to
say
belief.
It
would
be
up
to
in
total
about
350
000
playing
it
safe
to
say
up
10
being
up
to
three
3.5
million
for
the
project
is
the
Z
broad
estimate
at
this
point?
M
So
we're
just
coming
up
with
numbers
hypothetically.
W
M
Okay
and
then
just
to
be
clear,
this
350
000
ordinance
is
coming
before
us
to
be
used
from
apra
funds
is
for
the
strict
designing
of
the
pool,
nothing.
W
Else
it's
for
the
design
of
the
renovation
of
the
bath
house,
the
pool
you
know
in
in
the
decking,
so.
W
M
Like
the
blueprint
right
like
the
layout
of
the
pool,
geez,
maybe
I'm
in
the
wrong
career,
you
know,
but
it's
350
000
a
lot,
but
my
question
to
you,
then,
is
so
we
have
these
350
that's
coming
before
us.
M
So
we
don't
lose
those
750
000
dollars
and
then
and
given
the
fact
that
you
know
cost
of
inflation
and
and
interest
to
the
point
that
Council
and
very
you
know
made
is
if
this
was
to
pass
these
this.
Let's
just
assume
if
this
350
000
was
to
pass
out
of
committee
in
the
council,
the
blueprint
that
would
then
be
provided.
W
It
would
it's,
it
would
be
about
six
to
eight
weeks
as
the
estimated
you
know,
time
time
frame
to
get
the
those
drawings
back
and.
AA
AA
M
So
so
I
guess
you
know
this
is
just
to
get
the
ball
rolling
to
an
extent,
but
if
this
does
not
pass,
what
are
our
next
options
that
you?
What
what
are
your
backup
plans?
I'm,
just
curious
that
would
be
proposed.
W
If,
if
I
can
just
mention
the
dollar
perspective,
it
is
estimated
to
be
with
two
professionals:
the
director
bernado
PE,
along
with
the
PE
being
Mr
sakosha,
estimating
the
cost
to
be
in
that
vicinity,
which.
AA
A
W
Matches
up
similar
to
what
that
incredible
and
not
credible,
Federal
Hill
Place
was
about
just
for
reconstructing
the
pool.
So
it's
about
350,
3.5
million,
including
this
number
and
I,
want
to
just
point
that
out.
W
I
think
I
was
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
to
say:
Hey
you
could
make
a
decision
on
the
cost
of
the
construction
of
the
pool
during
the
budget
deliberations
that
you
know
considered
using
Opera
funds
or
you
know,
City
bonding
funds,
so
that's
still
on
the
table
for
the
actual
construction
of
the
pool,
but
why
this
is
brought
up
now
is
obviously
you
know
the
mayor
heard,
as
the
councilman
pointed
out
to
use.
W
You
know
the
by
that
resolution
was
a
positive
message
about
doing
the
pool,
so
the
may
assume
that's
what
the
council
wanted
to
do,
but
that
2.8
million.
If
it's
3.5,
we
received
a
grant
of
750
you're
in
the
2.8
million
dollar
vicinity.
W
So
if
you
wanted
to
use
up
it's
consistent
with
what
your
resolution
was,
though
it
could
be
deliberated
to
use
against
regular
City
bonding
recreational
bond
funds
would
suffice
too,
but
that
process
can
go
on.
But
to
get
this
off
the
dime
figure
instead
of
waiting
another
six
weeks
or
so
for
this
process
to
occur.
W
If
this
Council
was
committed
to
the
school,
as
as
we
stated
to
get
going
with
it
to
help
make
sure
that
we
get
this
thing
up
and
running
for
next
year
and
and
this
frankly
as
Mr
bernardo's
thought
process,
because
he's
concerned
about
what
he's
seeing
in
the
world
about
construct.
As
we
spoke
about
construction,
Contracting
and
and
a
supply
chain.
M
W
147
million
dollars,
but
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
questioned
that
they
went
off
the
list.
There
was
not
a
bidding
process
for
those
just
to
give
you
some
analogy
for
those
Engineers
either
right.
M
So
I'm
not
sure,
if
I'm
out
of
line
in
terms
of
asking
or
not
for
those
type
of
questions,
but-
and
you
know
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
we
already
know
who
it's
for.
My
only
reason
for
asking
is
only
because
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
my
first
question.
That
I
asked
right
we're
asking
if
the
300
the
administration
is
asking
for
350
000,
of
which
we
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
which,
who
it's
going
to
be
awarded.
AC
Look:
the
charter
requires
competitive
bidding,
okay,
7.09
I'm,
not
the
solicitor
I
can
tell
you
can't
speak
my
other
council
members.
I
am
not
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
resolution
tonight.
I
have
no
problem
continuing
it.
I'd,
like
an
opinion
from
the
solicitor
as
to
whether
or
not
competitive
bidding
is
actually
required
before
this.
This.
This
takes
place.
F
S
S
Best
way,
I
can
answer
it,
and
I
I
just
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
look
into
this,
because
it
is
a
close
issue,
because
there
is
a
Professional
Services
exception
when
it
comes
to
competitive
bidding
question
is:
does
this
fit
under
that
exception,
and
I
would
really
need
to
take
a
much
much
closer
look
at
the
charter.
I'll
do
that
now,
while
the
discussion
continues,
I'm
just
not
prepared
right
now
to
answer
that
without
taking
a
a
real,
detailed
look
at
the
charter,
because
it's
close,
it
could
go
either
way.
S
Let
me
take
a
look
please.
If
I
can
then
continue.
M
To
have
the
floor
through
the
chair,
if
that's
okay,
that
may
allow
Council
vice
president.
Thank
you.
So
you
know
I
have
to
say
that,
while
the
administration
to
director
mariety
came
up
and
said
you
know,
this
is
what
the
mayor
is
proposing.
He's
hearing
is
how
you
know.
M
I
I
appreciate
the
mayor
really
trying
to
put
something
before
us,
but
I,
also,
and
and
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
dollars
being
spent
and
the
news
we're
also
seeing
throughout
the
state
in
the
country
and
developments
happening
and
then
sometimes
developers
may
not
be
fully
be
able
to
happen.
You
know
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
ask
the
question
so
that
it
doesn't
happen
in
our
city
that
developments
may
come
to.
M
You
know,
may
start
and
then
may
halfway
stop
because
of
inflation
or
anything
else
that
we
have
to
do
so.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
I
think
it's
our
responsibility
right
to
find
out
whether
or
not
this
is
going
to
be
he
financially
stable
project
that
we
can
actually
do
or
not
do
while
Opera
funds
are
coming
before
us.
M
You
know
I
I'm
I
want
to
see
this
pulled
on.
I
really
do
I
think
it's
a
need
in
our
community.
We've
all
been
receiving
emails.
It's
a
matter
of
how
are
we
all
going
to
collectively
get
there,
while
also
making
sure
that
we
keep
taxpayers
money
our
residents,
business
owners,
everyone
who
invests
in
our
cities
in
mind
as
we're
moving
along
with
this
project?
So
I,
you
know
I'm
I'm.
M
W
Make
the
I'll
make
the
statement,
if
certainly
if
it
is
Dean
that
is
not
allowed
to
to
select
which
we
won
advised
differently,
but
if
not
allowed
to
go
from
the
list,
just
like
the
schools,
as
I
mentioned
they're
spending
about
147
million
dollars
or
without
a
bidding
process
for
similar
work.
If
you
will
the
analogy
of
one
of
their
schools,
I
think
we
should
be
all
be
concerned
to
look
into
that
as
well,
not
just
the
book,
but
in
any
event,
if
it's
required
to
go
to
RFP,
we
will
go
to
RFP.
W
So
if
you
approve
this
tonight,
you
know
whether
we
have
the
answer
tonight
or
whatever
we
will
do
in
the
legal
fashion,
whether
it
be
through
RFP
or
if
it's
allowed
on
that
list.
If
that
those
those
professionals
have
been
vetted
already
and
it's
a
legal
list
we'll
go
in
either
direction,
but
whatever
way
it's
going
to
be,
it
will
be
legal
in
either.
M
Way,
I'm
sorry,
chairman
can
I
ask
one
follow-up
to
that.
If
you
don't
mind,
I,
I,
don't
think
and-
and
please
correct
me
through
the
solicitor
as
well.
Can
we
RFP
or
RFQ
with
whether
this
passes
or
not?
This
Administration
can
still
put
something
out
for
an
RFQ,
so
I
don't
think
this
necessarily
has
to
go
through
that
particular
approval
in
order
to
go
through
that
procurement
process
to
our
Q
am
I
incorrect
on
that
I.
M
S
In
my
opinion,
that's
correct
so
if
I
can
just
pivot
a
little
bit
back
to
president
mourinho's
query
and
the
question
I
think
many
of
you
have
in
just
taking
a
quick
look
at
competitive
bidding
process.
First
of
all,
it
references,
Rhode
Island
law,
which
also
has
a
statutory
framework
for
competitive
bidding.
The
best
way
I
can
describe
it
at
this
point
is
that
this
initially
there's
a
presumption
that
everything
should
go
out
to
bid
right
that
that's
the
way
it's
supposed
to
work.
S
However,
it
gets
a
little
hazy
and
it
gets
you
get
into
a
gray
area
when
you're
talking
about
Professional,
Services
or
you're
talking
about
some
type
of
service
that
involves
unique
Services,
the
the
the
the
charter
lists,
maybe
six
or
seven
factors
for
the
purchasing
agent.
That's
the
term
it
uses
to
consider
and
make
a
judgment
as
to
whether
or
not
in
his
or
her
opinion.
S
It
should
go
out
to
bid
or
it's
the
type
of
activity
or
the
type
of
service
that
is
not
really
appropriate
for
bid,
because
it
involves
a
unique
talent,
a
unique
service.
Something
like
that.
Now
it's
a
fact
intensive
question.
I,
don't
know
enough,
I
can't
answer
it
only
because
I
don't
know
enough
about
the
the
company
that
that's
been
proposed,
the
type
the
precise
type
of
work
they're
going
to
do.
Can
anyone
do
it?
Can
any
professional
engineering
service
do
it?
I,
don't
know
these?
S
I
I
hope
that
makes
sense,
but
it
it's
really.
It
boils
down
to
what
is
the
nature
of
the
service
that
is
being
is
being
offered
or
is
being
sought
by
the
city,
so
that
analysis
has
to
be
done
first,
we
need
to
know
exactly
what,
where
seeking
to
procure
here
like
I
said
I'm.
Just
at
this
point,
I
can
tell
you
that's
the
legal
standard,
but
the
facts
I
think
have
to
be
fleshed
out.
S
M
Great,
thank
you
so
I
this.
If
this
was
to
pass,
we
have
the
350
plus
the
13,
800
I,
think
75
dollars
that
we've
also
paid
for
the
feasibility
study,
and
yet
there
still
wouldn't
be
any
movement
as
to
what
the
next
steps
would
be
on
the
to
build
a
pool
right.
That
would
be
build
the
pool
and
that's
it.
AA
M
Listen:
here's
where
I
stand
on
this
is
that,
if
had
we
I
much
rather
see
at
least
an
RFQ
just
give
us
a
dollar
amount
versus
just
voting
on
350
and
saying
this
is
what
it's
going
to
roughly
be,
and
I
I
would
probably
think
differently
on
how
I
would
be
voting
had
I
known
it
would
have
gone
through
the
RFQ
or
RFP
on
this
dollar
amount,
which
I
don't
believe
it
would
cost
the
city
any
money
to
put
it
out
as
soon
as
again
go
through
that
procurement
process
and
then
have
that
and
then
our
peer
queue
can
take
roughly
14
days
or
so,
and
then
the
scoring
and
everything
else
that
goes
with
it.
M
and
then
not
knowing
what
the
next
step
is
and
I
I
want
to
get
this
pool
going
as
well.
We've
been
talking
about
it
since
forever
I
mean
we
go
back
to
2019
when
we
were
sending
emails
in
terms
of
what's
the
revenue
of
the
pool,
how
many
passes
do
we,
how
many
users
do
we
come
and
and
visit
the
pool
and
and
all
that
and
so
I
want
to
get
it
going,
but
I
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
just
getting
in
the
RFQ
process
before
actually
voting
in
support
of
the
full
350.?
G
Thank
you,
chairman
Miss
Marty,.
G
Mr
Murray
the
if
I'm
correct
this
says
up
to
350
000.
Yes,
so
if
it
costs
ten
dollars,
it
would
be
ten
dollars
right.
Yes,
and
where
did
you
get
the
number
350
000.
W
It
was
estimated
from
the
engineers
that
the
engineer
that
designed
the
the
architectural
drawings,
along
with
Mr
bernado,
the
professional
in-house
engineer
he
was
a
public
works
director,
estimated
that
that's
the
cost
by
getting
some
loose
quotes,
but
as
a
starting
point,
which
they
typically
would
do
with
any
project.
But.
G
W
G
W
J
W
W
That's
correct
and
I
think
kind
of
historically
I
believe
as
I
mentioned,
I
am
I've
been
informed,
though
I
didn't
attend
the
meetings
that
even
the
schools
just
go
by
that
professional
listing
Professional
Services
listing
that
I'm
not
quite
sure
they
did
go
out
to
bid
themselves
as
an
analogy
where
we
should
watch
our
dollars,
because
obviously,
projects
have
much
more
significance
of
seven.
Eight
million
dollar
range
versus
350.
we've
kind
of
be
similar
to
that.
The
analogy
with.
G
G
W
That's
correct:
that's
we've
heard
you
couldn't
go
either
way
and
so
to
this
affirm
that
I
know
that
Mr
bernado,
but
we
trust,
has
had
experience
with
them.
Many
many
many
years
with
a
lot
of
credibility.
We
trusted
Mr
Bernard
his
judgment,
there's
his
recommendation.
If
we,
if
we
cannot
just
award
it
on
a
Professional
Services
list,
then
certainly
we
could
do
the
RFP.
However,
we
will
be
jeopardizing
the
time
frame.
D
G
Apparently,
and
now
as
to
the
cost
of
this
I
know,
I
was
here
I
believe
you
were
here
when
we
discussed
that
none
of
us
liked
that
seven
million
dollar
plan
it
was
just
too
much.
You
remember
that
it's
gone
and
now
and
I
remember
all
of
us
saying
smaller
councilman,
Ferry
and
I
actually
agreed
with
him.
That
night
we
said
why
don't
we
do
the
four
million
dollar
plan
or
the
three
million
dollar
plan
I.
I
G
God
Mr
Moretti
the
how
how
much
would
it
cost
if
we
just
fix
the
pool-
and
you
know
put
some
Band-Aids
on
that
on
the
the
building
there
that's
kind
of
what's
being
suggested,
wasn't
it
if
I
remember
correctly,
wasn't
it
even
a
similar
costs.
W
G
Y
G
Would
be
a
waste
of
money,
so
I
think
I
thought
we
were
all
in
favor
of
doing
the
smaller
tone
down
project,
not
the
big
one,
with
the
pickleball
courts
and
the
pagodas
and
all
that
stuff,
but
the
pool.
We
all
said
it
a
fool
in
a
pool
house.
That's
all
we
wanted
now.
The
other
one
is,
however,
many
years
old.
It's
the
only
one
left
in
the
country,
because
everybody's
spotted
up
and
fixed
this
we're
the
only
ones
that
have
this
thing
left
and
rather
than
just
trying
to
spoke
at
the
mayor.
G
W
Have
to
realize
on
an
operational
basis,
they
have
a
pool
that
size,
that's
basically
ridiculously
large.
It
costs
money
to
maintain
it
hiring
I,
don't
know
if
we
can,
in
this
case,
we'll
get
to
get
the
lifeguards
to
support
the
attendant
attending
to
that
pool.
There's
a
lot
of
logistics
that
go
into
it
than
just
a
massive
pull
the
size
of
Eden
Park.
L
G
W
It
was
expressed
like
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
to
say
scaled
those
plans
back
to
the
pool
in
the
pool
house.
The
mail
listed
then
and
the
May
is
listening
now.
H
B
So
I
want
to
really
wait
to
read
that
again.
Council
Valley
said
yes,
yes,
I
met
with
you
last
year.
We
have
nothing
on
paper,
nothing.
A
picture
and
I
asked
you
to
publish
it
to
everybody,
and
you
said
this
is:
if
it's
not
something
that
is
concrete,
that's
something
we!
We
cannot
share
with
the
public.
Now
now,
don't
do
that's
the
politic.
You're
doing
you
told
me
this
is
we
didn't
have
any
any
costs?
Yet
we
didn't
know
how
much
it's
gonna
cost,
because
I
asked
Dr
Mori.
B
We
have
a
picture.
You
sent
me
a
picture
and
I
asked
you
in
the
council
here
to
share
this
picture
with
everybody
to
put
it
in
public,
and
you
said
no,
because
this
is
a
work
on
Project.
You
do
not
have
any
course.
Yet
you
cannot
do
that
now.
Don't
tell
me
because
we
have
this
conversation
and
you
keep
you
use
it
to
say.
I,
agree
with
you
when
something
you
didn't
know
what
was
the
cause
last
time
we
met.
Don't
that's
the
political
praying,
don't
do
that?
No,
no!
No!
No!
No!
B
What
what
was
the
cause-
and
that
was
a
year
ago
and
then
when
you
come
in
front
of
council-
and
you
say
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do
and
I
said
ow
when
we're
going
to
find
the
money-
and
you
couldn't
say
where
we're
gonna
find
the
money.
If
you
have
the
money
you
want
to,
do
it
do
it,
but
where
you're
gonna
have
the
money?
That's
the
that's.
The
point.
I
want
to
make
and
don't
take
someone.
I
am
the
person
I
email.
B
You
I
want
to
meet
with
you
to
know
where
we
are
with
the
board.
Don't
say
someone
went
to
your
office
and
yes
went
to
the
mayor's
office
as
update
about
Deadpool,
and
at
that
moment
you
show
me
a
picture.
There
was
nothing
concrete,
no
prices,
no
courses
and
earlier
was
talking
earlier.
He
said
we
don't
know
yet
we
don't
know
the
exact
price.
Yet
you
just
said:
I
wrote
it
down.
While
you
say
it,
I
wrote
it
down.
So
one
thing
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
gonna
be
done.
B
The
study
we
had
says:
okay,
let
me
know
with
the
poor,
so
he
never
says
the
pool
cannot
be
fixed.
These
studies,
this
never
said
the
pool
cannot
be
fixed.
Don't
tell
me
the
pool
cannot
make
me
fix.
He
says
here
keep
the
functions
as
they
are
presently
are.
Now
we
should
reduce
construction
time
minimally.
That's
the
poor,
allow
the
existing
functions
to
now
proceed
safely
and
efficiently
without
Band-Aid
measures.
B
I
Thank
you,
councilman
campiano
and
just
one
thing:
I'm
going
to
allow
councilman
camper
piano
to
speak,
I'm
going
to
speak,
and
then
we
are
taking
a
vote.
Everyone
has
had
more
than
ample
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
AD
Thank
you
chairman,
since
this
came
out,
I
went
back
and
forth
myself
several
times
on
this
issue
and
and
thought
about
it,
and
on
the
pro
side,
we
did
pass
a
resolution
to
spend
our
funds
for
the
pool
and
also
on
the
pro
side,
we
have
750
000
in
a
bond
for
it,
and
also
to
my
knowledge.
This
is
the
only
thing
that
was
proposed.
AD
It
would
go
directly
to
the
people,
I
mean
we've
used,
Opera
funds
for
plugging
gaps
and
revenue
and
all
other
things,
but
this
is
the
only
thing
that
came
right.
That
would
go
directly
to
the
people,
which
is
a
good
thing,
and
hopefully
we
do
need
a
pool.
I
I
do
not
think
the
size
that
the
pool
is
now
is
right
for
this
day
and
age.
Other
cities
have
pools
that
are
nearly
that
size
and
to
staff.
A
pool
safely
at
that
size
is
a
daunting
task.
AD
In
today's
society,
I
mean
getting
people
to
come
to
work
if
one
person
one
if
we
need
four
like
gods
and
one
life
God,
calls
out,
and
we
have
to
close
down
the
facility
because
of
that
I.
Don't
think
that
would
be
a
good
thing.
I
think
a
scale-bound
virgin
is
better.
It
is
concerning
to
me
that
it
didn't
go
out
to
bid
for
multiple
companies
to
draw
it
up
and
proposals
for
the
plans.
I
would
like
to
have
seen
that
and
also
Staffing
it
over
the
over
the
long
run.
AD
What
is
it
going
to
cost
the
staff
a
facility
like
that
so
I
just
heard
everybody's
concerns
tonight
and
I
still
haven't
made
my
decision
I'm
thinking
about
it,
but
I
hope
the
pool
gets
done
and
I
hope
it
gets
pulled
done
for
next
year.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
see
two
people
seeking
to
be
recognized,
I've,
let
everyone
speak
multiple
times
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
take
a
moment
respectfully
to
everyone
and
I'm.
Just
a
lot
of
my
questions
have
been
answered.
I
So
I'm
not
gonna
label.
The
point
on
those
but
I
wanna
try
and
chart
some
sort
of
path
forward,
because
I
know
we
all
want
the
pool
to
get
done.
Whatever
the
pool
looks
like
in
some
way,
I
think
a
true
statement
is
we
all
want
the
pool
to
get
done.
What
that
means
to
each
of
us
is
going
to
differ.
What
that
pool
is
in
our
minds,
for
each
of
us
is
different,
so
we've
got
to
find
some
sort
of
consensus
there
on
that,
but
I'm
also
and
and
I
I
recognize.
I
It
sounds
like
this
is
something
we
need
that
has
to
get
done
for
the
pool
to
go
forward.
We
have
to
have
the
study
done
in
order
to
do
this
now.
I've
heard
some
people
say
that
they're
concerned
about
the
cost
of
the
study.
I've
heard
some
people
mention
the
the
process,
whether
it
goes
through.
One
of
the
you
know
preferred
vendors
or
or
whatever
the
term
is
or
if
it
goes
through
the
RFP
process.
I
I've
also
I
also
had
the
same
thought
coming
in
tonight
that
Council,
the
former
council
president
Farina
had
said
about.
Well,
we
would
we
be
approving
tonight
350
000,
to
go
towards
a
project
that
we
haven't
actually
approved
yet
so
what
happens?
If
we
approve
this
tonight,
but
then,
for
whatever
reason,
hypothetically
not
saying
I'm
I
would
do
this.
We
remove
the
bud
long
project
from
the
capital
budget.
So
then
we've
approved
350
000
towards
something
that
we're
not
actually
going
to
do.
I
I
What
I
would
propose
and
I'm
proposing
this
because
I'm
I'm
reading
the
room
and
I'm
trying
to
count
votes
in
my
head
here
sounds
like
this
thing's
going
down
potentially
and
I.
Don't
think
I
want
that
to
happen
tonight,
because
I
think
there's
more
information
out
there
to
be
had
and
I
think
there's
a
way
forward
for
all
of
us.
So
we
can
get
this
done,
so
what
I
would
ask
and
what
I
would
pose
to
my
colleagues
here
into
the
administration
to
see
if
this
would
be
agreeable?
I
I
I
We
could
we
could
have
a
special
or
we
could
put
this
on
the
docket
for
one
of
those
nights
for
a
special
Finance
meeting
send
to
the
send
it
to
the
council,
so
there
isn't
any
further
delay
so
that
way,
this
could
potentially
be
completely
approved
by
the
council
by
mid-may
and
it's
not
delaying
the
process.
I,
don't
think
respect
respectfully
to
the
administration.
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
fair
to
say
that
the
council
is
the
ones
delaying
this.
I
You
know
for
five
weeks
we
are
in
you
know,
month,
26
of
this
Administration
I.
Don't
think
it
would
be
fair
to
come
after
us
if
we
continue
it
for
a
month
to
try
and
get
all
this
information.
So
that's
my
proposal
continue
this
to
may
get
the
rfqs,
and
then
we
can
take
final
action
on
this
in
may.
We
have
further
time
to
think
about
it.
I
just
don't
want
to
see
this
die
tonight.
So
if,
if
anyone
I
can't
make
the
motion
I'm
the
chair.
W
My
concern
is,
it
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot
of
time,
but
those
five
weeks
will
further
jeopardize
the
having
the
pool
ready
for
next
July
I
just
have
to
be
on
the
record
with
that.
That's
what
I'm
hearing
from
Mr
bernado,
if
we
had
I,
feel
he
had
the
luxury
to
vet
it
through
the
budget
process.
As
frankly,
my
original
thought
process.
W
Certainly
we've
been
more
in
favor
of
that,
but
he's
calling
it
to
our
attention
his
concern
that
he's
having
getting
very
concerned
about
not
having
the
process
done
and
constructed
by
then,
and
there
were-
and
he
made
it
clear
to
me.
I
could
just
tell
you
that
and
I'm.
Just
echoing
what
he's
telling
me
you
delay
this
any
further
cannot
promise
the
pool
for
next
summer.
W
I
AB
This
is
in
accordance
with
your
suggestion.
I
would
I
have
no
vote
here,
but
I
would,
if
I
did
I
would
also
ask
for
it
to
be
continued
and
a
attorney
to
please
look
at
Charter
15.05.
I
Council
woman,
Jermaine
and
then
council
president.
B
So
I
we
with
your
proposition,
that's
why
I,
seconded
and
I
want
people
to
be
open,
but
I
want
it
to
be
done
in
the
right
way
so
and
with
transparency.
So
thank
you.
M
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
say
that,
based
on
what
my
constituents
and
what
I'm
hearing
is,
they
want
the
pool
and
they
want
it
now
and
it's
not
going
to
be
able
to
obviously
happen
this
year,
and
so
with
this
motion,
I
have
no
problem.
Doing
that
and
supporting
the
motion.
That's
before
us
with
the
RFP
or
the
RFQ.
Whatever
the
case
may
be,
I
know
they
just
mentioned
that
it
might
be
a
slight
delay.
M
They
might
be
a
delay
regardless,
whether
or
not
you
get
started
you
know,
but
you
know
that
my
only
concern
is
just
making
sure
for
the
transparency
that
we're
actually
doing
what
we
can
if
the
attorney
that
can
be
that
attorney
verdeckia
just
said:
if
there
isn't
an
exclusion
on
there,
an
exemption
on
there
and
that's
fine
I
just
want
the
pool
to
get
started.
If
that's
the
case,
I'll
be
honest
with
you,
I'll
be
supporting
that
350
000
to
go
forward.
M
If
that
is
the
case,
I
needed
to
I
I
want
this
to
move
forward,
and
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
politics.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
whether
what
party
I
am
affiliated
with
this
has
to
be
about
the
community
and
council
member
cup
and
Beyond
piano.
Actually
I'd
mentioned
something
that
I
had
also
written
here.
M
You
know
Opera,
you
know
it's
when
you
see
how
it's
being
used
throughout
the
entire
country,
it's
for
the
community
and,
however
I
also
want
to
have
the
best
interests
of
our
taxpayers,
because
we
may
see
a
escalate,
possibly
in
their
taxes
right
throughout
throughout
the
city
and
so
I'm
being
very
mindful
of
that,
but
I'm
also
being
very
mindful
of
the
community.
That
also
would
like
to
see
a
pool
for
children
or
campers,
our
seniors
and
our
younger
families
as
as
well
in
individuals.
M
AC
Council
president,
thank
you,
I
think
it's
I
I
share
a
lot
of
council
vice
presidents
vargas's
thoughts
on
this.
It's
unfair
to
say
that
a
delay
of
five
weeks
when
the
administration
comes
to
us
in
April
for
next
year
for
the
pool
that
that's
somehow
gonna,
be
you
know
on
our
backs.
If
this
doesn't
happen,
that's
on
fear
wanting
competitive
bidding
is
advantageous
to
us
as
a
city,
because
we
will
yield
the
benefit
of
saving
money,
we'll
be
getting
plans
at
the
cheapest
price.
AC
If
there's
some
Nuance
so
and
back
to
that
thought,
even
if
there's
an
exception
that
allows
for
us
just
to
hire
a
firm
with
unique
engineering
qualifications
or
unique
Professional
Services.
What
is
the
harm
in
putting
it
doesn't
mean?
We
cannot
put
it
out
to
bid
there's
nothing
that
precludes
us
from
doing
that.
AC
Okay
and
if
there
is,
as
there
was
with
this
resolution,
a
firm
in
mind
that
could
have
been
communicated
to
us
included
with
us,
so
that
we
could
have
vetted
that
firm
in
advance
of
tonight
and
we
all
have
good
reason
to
question
it,
because
we
are
looking
at
up
to
350
000
and
we
do
all
want
this
done.
We
want
it
done
the
right
way.
We
want
it
done
to
fiscally
responsible
way
for
the
most
part.
AC
Councilman
Ferry
may
not
want
the
pool
and
that
that's
that's
his
right,
but
not
what
I
said.
No
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure.
Did
you
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
I,
I,
didn't
okay,
you
do
okay,
I,
wasn't
sure!
No,
no
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
trying
to.
AC
AC
I
actually
didn't
want
to
put
you
in
a
class
that
you
didn't
want
to
be
in
so
I
I.
Take
that
that
back
I
did
not
know
that
that
you
didn't
have
a
change
of
heart.
I.
Guess
I
got
confused
with
your
intentions
this
evening,
so
but
it
doesn't
hurt
to
put
it
out
to
bid.
We
can
save
money
and
I
hope
the
administration
will
will
take
that
to
heart.
I
Then
I'll
say
this
and
then
remove
and
then
we're
taking
a
vote.
I
agree
with
council
president
Vargas
I
really
don't
care.
What
party
the
mayor
is.
A
part
of
I
want
the
Pool
opened
as
soon
as
possible,
preferably
that.
A
I
Have
been
you
know,
two
or
three
years
ago,
that
hasn't
happened,
let's
get
it
open,
it
better
be
open
for
for
next
summer,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
that
ball
rolling,
ASAP
clerk.
Please
take
the
role.
What
are
we
voting
on
we're
voting
on
the
motion
to
continue.
A
I
All
right
now
to
the
the
real
controversial
stuff
on
the
on
the
DACA
tonight:
yeah!
Oh
just
wait
until
the
budget.
I
If,
if
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
it,
if
the
quote
comes
in
for
less
than
350
000,
maybe
like
a
popcorn
machine
back
there,
we
could
some
a
real
estate
tax
abatements.
Take
a
motion.
C
C
D
I
G
C
I
No
further
business
before
us
this
evening,
we'll
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
move
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye.
We
are
adjourned
as
a
reminder.
Tomorrow
evening
we
do
have
a
special
finance
committee
meeting,
one
at
six
pm
and
then
the
next
at
6,
15.,
I'm.
Sorry,
six
o'clock
is
special
counsel,
followed
by
budget
hearing
beginning
at
6
15..