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From YouTube: Take 53 #16 (November 1989)
Description
The November 29, 1989 edition of Take 53 features an interview with Judith Carson-Croes, Chair of the Cupertino Historical Society Museum Organization Committee. Host: Susan Robinson.
This video is one in a series of programs presented as part of the Cupertino City Channel's digital video archive project.
A
A
Welcome
back
to
take
53,
I'm,
Susan
Robinson,
and
today
our
focus
is
on
the
new
Cupertino
Historical
Society
Museum.
Today
our
guest
is
Judith
Carson
crows,
chair
of
the
museum
organization
committee,
thanks
for
joining
us
today
on
take
53.
First
of
all,
how
did
you
become
so
involved
in
the
in
the
Cupertino
Historical
Society
Museum?
Well,.
C
C
A
C
That
went
through
many
many
stages,
actually,
in
fact,
part
of
their
bylaws
does
say
to
conserve,
to
collect
and
conserve
the
collection
and
artifacts
of
the
cupertino
area
and
eventually
to
display
those
which
automatically
implies
that
there
would
be
a
museum,
and
they
investigated
many
different
places
from
the
parish
house
to
McClellan
Ranch,
to
a
variety
of
different
places,
to
house
the
collection.
But
in
a
museum
and
in
order
to
conserve
your
objects,
you
have
to
have
correct
conditions.
C
You
have
to
have
a
good
climate,
it
has
to
be
secure
and
protective
of
the
objects,
and
none
of
those
none
of
those
sites
were
really
very
appropriate.
So
the
city,
actually
the
Department
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
stepped
in
at
some
point
and
came
up
with
the
idea
of
the
community
center
and
that
the
museum
would
be
one
of
several
different
organizations
that
could
be
located
in
there.
So
then
the
museum.
You
know
that
then
became
the
site
of
the
museum.
I
see.
A
C
Just
about
everywhere,
not
not
atypical
of
historical
society,
museums
I,
would
think
most
of
the
objects
are
in
people's
homes.
They've
been
in
garages
and
they've,
been
in
basements
and
under
beds,
and
in
attics
and
and
it's
well
protected.
You
know,
as
individuals
can
can
protect
them,
but
they
have
not
I,
don't
think
ever
been
in
one
place
completely
and
displayed
as
as
a
museum
collection.
I
see.
C
We
have
a
rather
large
over
3,000,
at
least
3,000
object
collection
right
now
and
it's
quite
diverse.
We
have
a
lot
of
farm
implements,
obviously
from
the
agricultural
time
of
Cupertino
a
lot
of
those.
Those
probably
will
not
be
in
the
museum
they're
awfully
large
and
metal,
and
a
lot
of
those
probably
will
be
outside
someplace
in
a
display.
C
But
there
are
a
lot
of
fantastic
historical
photographs
and
smaller
items
that
were
used
by
the
pioneers
in
the
mid-1800s,
everything
from
irons,
real
iron,
irons
to
other
smaller
kitchen
and
household
items,
and
you
know
a
variety
of
things
that
people
used
in
their
homes
and
and
out
of
their
homes
and
a
lot
of
things
that
were
used
in
the
early
schools,
inkwells
and
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
those
will
all
make
up
a
lot
of
what
we
display
in
the
museum.
A
C
There
will
be
a
variety
of
things,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
over
3,000
objects
and
they
include
everything
really
that
was
used
by
Cupertino
residents
from
the
pioneer
days
really
up
to
I
would
say
about
the
last
50
years
or
so,
and
they
include
everything
from
the
very
large
objects.
The
agricultural
implements,
for
instance,
that
were
used
in
the
the
apricot
farming
areas
and
various
things
to
some
that
were
used
by
people
in
their
homes,
that
includes
kitchen
objects,
household
personal
objects,
hand,
mirrors,
etc.
C
A
D
D
They
teach
us
of
the
courage
and
adventure
of
the
seagoing
life
that
helped
build
this
nation
and
the
self-reliance
and
perseverance
that
are
part
of
the
American
character
join
us
in
keeping
our
maritime
heritage
alive
and
vibrant,
preserve
and
protected
for
the
enjoyment
of
all.
By
supporting
maritime
preservation.
Efforts
in
your
community
don't
give
up
the
ships.
A
C
A
C
Most
of
them,
I
would
say
and
I'm
fairly
new
to
this
particular
Museum
and
Historical
Society,
but
I
would
say
the
majority
are
donated.
There
are
a
lot
of
old
Cupertino
families
and
still
involved
in
the
Historical
Society,
and
a
lot
of
those
items
have
come
from
from
them
or
from
their
estates.
Mm-Hmm.
C
A
C
Well,
as
a
total
collection,
it
will
be,
there
have
been.
We
have
participated,
a
lot
of
different
things
and
there
is
a
traveling
trunk,
I
think
as
part
of
the
program.
So
that
includes
that's
gone
out
to
schools
and
to
various
Cupertino
events,
and
that
includes
some
of
the
collections.
So
those
items
as
well
as
a
large
one,
the
fire
truck,
which
probably
people
remember
seeing
they
have
been
seen,
but
they
have
not
seen
the
entire
collection
mm-hmm.
E
C
State
that
is
very
much
a
concern
of
the
Historical
Society,
even
when
it
when
it
started.
They
wanted
that
involvement
in
the
Cupertino
schools.
They
wanted
the
Cupertino
children
to
be
aware
of
their
heritage
and
that
traveling
trunk
was
put
together
and
has
gone
out
to
innumerable
schools
in
the
past
several
years.
In
fact,
I
think
one
year
it
visited
26
different
classes
and
the
children
write
back
and
and
expressed
their
interest
in
the
different
things
that
were
shown
to
them.
So
that's
been
a
very
popular
thing.
That's.
A
C
C
That
could
be
done
either
way.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
were
very
aware
of
the
different
schools
in
the
area,
so
we
have
made
contact
with
them
and
one
of
our
Historical
Society
and
museum
members.
Hazel
fretwell
has
been
most
intimately
involved
in
that
and
she
has
established
contact
with
most
of
the
schools
in
the
area,
so
they
they
do
know
who
to
contact
if
they
would
like
to
have
that
visit
made
now.
A
C
Gone
in
primarily
to
primary
schools,
but
certainly
could
go
into
any.
In
fact,
what
we
could
do
is
we
could
orient
it
to
a
little
bit
older
student
or
different
types
of
classes.
Whatever
the
class
is
dealing
with
the
time,
for
instance,
in
their
history,
we
could
certainly
put
together
a
trunk
that
would
be
appropriate
to
that
class.
That's.
A
C
C
Certainly
with
some
of
the
companies
we've
had
a
fairly
good
response
from
some
companies.
They
would
like
to
see
some
historical
materials
in
their
lobbies,
and
things
like
that,
so
we
will
be
reaching
out
to
the
community
with
our
collection,
via
companies
via
schools
via
other
community
organizations.
Mm-Hmm.
A
C
Actually,
a
lot
of
the
speaking
has
been
done
at
the
Historical
Society
meetings
themselves,
where
we
invite
speakers
in
now.
Obviously
those
same
speakers
or
historical
members
could
always
give
a
speech
to
any
any
organization
in
the
cupertino
or
or
even
greater
Santa
Clara
area.
If,
if
asked
you
know,
that's
we'd
be
very
open
to
that.
We
have
a
lot
of
very
interesting
speakers
who
come.
Some
are
members
of
the
Historical
Society.
Some
are
not.
They
speak
on
Northern
California
history.
We
recently
had
mr.
C
H
Allen
Bidwell,
who
was
a
whose
ancestor
was
John
Bidwell
and
kind
of
founding
farmer
of
Chico
California.
So
he
had.
We
had
him
speaking
recently.
That's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
do.
One
of
our
members
writes
a
regular
column
for
the
Cupertino
scene.
That's
Henry
on
Marcotte.
She
writes
on
on
roots
of
Cupertino
I,
see.
A
C
A
C
That's
a
very
interesting
question:
we
haven't
decided
that
entirely.
Probably
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
we
would
like
to
start
off
an
exhibit
with
the
very
early
part
of
Cupertino
history,
so
with
the
settling
in
the
mid
1800s
and
the
pioneers
and
then
bring
it
up
to
a
little
bit
more
contemporary.
So
we
will
have
kind
of
a
span
of
Cupertino
history
in
the
first
exhibit
we
will
be
changing
exhibits.
Some
of
those
will
be
by
special
theme.
For
instance.
C
We
would
also
like
to
certainly
deal
with
our
pre
Anglo
settlement
and
deal
with
some
of
the
Native
American
settlement
in
the
area
as
well.
So
we
will,
we
will
have
some
special
thematic
exhibits
as
as
we
see
the
need,
or
sometimes
by
request,
if
there's
a
particular
individual
or
group
who
would
like
a
focus
in
the
exhibit.
We
will
certainly
take
that
into
consideration
great.
E
E
A
And
we're
back
on
take
53
with
Judith
Carson
crows
of
the
Cupertino
Historical
Society
Museum
I
noticed
that
one
of
the
quotes
on
the
flyer
that
you
gave
me
for
the
museum
stayed
that
it's
a
museum
for
the
preservation
of
the
past
the
present
and
for
the
future
and
risk
enrichment
of
the
cupertino
community.
I
understand
about
the
past.
What
do
you
mean
by
the
present
and
future
in
the
museum?
Well,.
C
I
think
this
is
a
it's
a
very
interesting
and
we
hope
the
very
contemporary
view
for
historical
museums,
and
that
is
the
importance
not
just
of
a
very
rich
past,
but
how
the
future
and
the
present
becomes
the
past.
So
we
would
like
to
see
our
entire
history
on
a
continuum
and
note
the
changes
in
the
area.
The
changes
in
the
people,
the
changes
in
the
industry
that
come
and
obviously
Cupertino,
was
originally
a
very
much
an
agricultural
area
and.
E
C
Became
more
and
more
industrial
and
then
obviously
became
part
of
the
Silicon
Valley
boom
with
the
electronics
and
the
companies
that
settled
in
this
area
are
very
much
a
part
of
we
consider
our
present
right
now
in
our
very
recent
past,
and
certainly
our
future,
so
those
things
we
would
like
to
include
in
some
of
the
collection
that
we
get
for
the
museum
and
for
the
display.
So
again,
people
can
relate
a
little
bit
more.
This
is
not.
We
don't
want
the
museum
and
our
collection
to
be
seen
as
just
kind
of
a
dead
thing.
C
We
want
it
to
be
a
living
thing.
We
want
it
to
be
something
that
is
is
very
I,
think
contemporary
and
what
that
people
can
relate
to.
So,
as
the
community
changes
with,
for
instance,
a
different
kind
of
Frizzles,
our
settlers
were
primarily
northern
European
and
from
Ireland
and
England
and
some
from
Italy
and
that
changes
to
I
mean
we
have
a
new
community
around
us.
C
We
have
a
Hispanic
community,
we
have
a
large
Asian
community
and
we
want
to
reflect
their
interests
and
their
participation
in
the
community
of
Cupertino
and
certainly
to
get
people
interested
in
the
museum
you
you
want
to
make
that
very
I
think
appropriate
to
them.
So
so
they
want
to
see
some
of
what
their
contributions
have
been.
So
that's
what
we'll
try
to
do
and
I
in
our
living
museum?
That's.
A
C
Surrounding
areas,
the
different
organizations
that
exist,
the
churches,
the
schools,
the
community
centers
of
the
outlying
areas-
certainly
any
group
I
think
that
exist
in
Cupertino-
is
something
that
we
have
to
be
aware
of.
We
need
to
set
up
very
good
talking
and
listening
relationships
with
them
so
that
they
feel
involved
in
what
we
do
and
that
we
feel
involved
in
what
they
do,
and
hopefully
it
doesn't
happen
overnight.
Obviously,
but
but
over
time
they
will
become
more
and
more
part
of
what
we
put
on
in
our
museum.
Mm-Hmm.
A
C
C
Things
that
museums
have
to
abide
by,
for
instance,
there
are
all
sorts
of
them
excuse
me.
Federal
codes
are
dealing
with
wildlife
and
dealing
with
American
Indian
rights
with
their
artifacts
and
things.
So
so
we
write
all
of
these
in
our
policy,
and
this
gives
us
a
guideline
as
to
what
is
appropriate
for
the
collection.
What
isn't?
But
obviously
anyone
who
thinks
that
there
is
something
that
they
have
or
he
or
she
has.
C
That
would
be
appropriate,
can't
contact
us
either
when
we
get
a
museum
number
at
the
Museum
number
or
apt,
the
Historical
Society
itself.
We
would
also
like
to
urge
Annie,
Cupertino
resident
or
anyone
outside
of
the
area
to
join
the
Historical
Society
and
become
involved
at
that
level,
because
that's
pretty
much
the
basis
of
our
museum,
still
that's
where
it
all
started.
Okay,.
C
Now
all
of
the
individuals
involved
in
the
operation
of
the
museum
in
the
starting
up
of
the
museum
are
volunteers.
Eventually.
What
we
would
like
to
see,
certainly
and
I
would
like
to
see
this-
probably
at
the
start
of
the
year,
if
possible,
is
to
hire
a
museum
professional
to
head
the
museum
and
its
its
operations
and
then
perhaps
still
rely
a
lot
on
volunteers
to
act
as
docents
and
to
help
with
the
school
tours
and
and
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
there
will
be
a
lot
of
volunteers,
always
involved.
Okay,.
C
Right
now
we
are
getting
almost
all
of
our
funding
through
the
Historical
Society's
efforts.
We
do
have
a
separate
organization,
a
fundraising
committee
that
was
set
up
as
part
of
the
museum
organization
committees.
They
are
working
on
some
fundraising
campaigns,
the
first
one
really
that
the
Historical
Society
did
was
in
June.
That
was
our
first
official
fundraiser
that
we
had
with
our
barbecue
and
we
charge
$25
for
all
of
the
guests
and
all
of
the
proceeds
of
that
then
went
towards
the
museum,
after
obviously
paying
off
what
it
cost
to
to
put
the
barbecue
on.
A
C
We
have
a
lot
of
things.
Actually,
some
of
them
entail
tangible
things
that
have
to
deal
with
the
organization
of
the
collection
and
the
running
of
the
museum
itself
on
the
top
of
our
list
might
be
a
computer
and
printer.
We
do
need
that.
What
we
have
to
do
with
the
entire
collection
is
go
through
every
single
object
and
accession
that
we
have
to
apply
a
number
to
that.
C
So
one
of
the
key
things
in
any
museum
operation
is
documentation,
so
documentation
means
lots
and
lots
of
little
numbers
and
lots
and
lots
of
names
and
description.
So
in
order
to
make
that
an
easier
task
would
be
computerizing
that,
which
is
something
we
would
really
like
to
do
right
now,
we
do
have
an
inventory
and
they're
all
on
cards,
and-
and
we
would
like
to
elaborate
that
and
make
sure
that
it
stays
updated
and
that
so
the
computer
would
be.
You
know
very
nice
thing
to
receive
on
arm
on
our
wish.
C
With
a
lot
of
other
things
involving
services,
we
would
like
to
put
our
display
cases
together
and
materials,
for
that
would
would
come
in
handy
as
well
as
anyone
who
has
the
technical
skills
carpentry,
for
instance,
to
help
us
build
the
display
cases
and
actually
install
them.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
involve
putting
the
displays
together,
art
art
paper,
anything
having
to
do
with
writing
the
text
out,
for
instance,
if
there
are
businesses
around
that
could
help
us
put
some
of
the
labels
together.
That
would.