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Coverage of the January 25, 2023 Special Cupertino City Council Meeting.
Regular Meeting segment. Part 3 of 3.
A
A
So
councilmember
Moore
says:
delete
8.52
councilman
methrone,
revised
8.52
to
allow
council
members
to
remove
at
least
one
item
from
the
consent
calendar
without
providing
notice
before
the
council
meeting
begins,
and
my
recommendation
was
to
allow
items
to
be
removed
by
the
public
with
Council
majority
affirmative
and
the
member
of
the
public
needs
to
request
removal
item
and
state.
The
reason
for
the
request
I
am
willing
to
strike
my
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
too
complicated.
So,
let's
just
consider
council,
member
Moore
and
council
member
froons
recommendations.
B
A
B
A
E
B
A
C
C
Yeah
I
I
feel
that's
really
going
against
the
transparency
and
the
communication
with
the
public,
because
I
know
that
the
city
council
has
done
that
in
the
past.
Every
time
I
feel
very
uncomfortable,
because
the
public
might
want
to
talk
about
an
item
believing
it
would
be
item
nine
and
then
it's
pulled,
move
toward
and
I'm
concerned
we
already
approved.
Then
they
may
not.
They
might
come
to
the
meeting
and
find
out.
Oh,
they
missed
their
chance
to
speak.
Okay.
A
A
A
A
E
A
A
A
H
A
E
I
would
strike
the
last
item,
we're
looking
at
8.5.1,
so
I
actually
do
want
to
have
that
deletion,
because
I
don't
quite
understand
why
it's
sitting
here,
because
this
is
an
item
called
adding
item
to
consent
on
the
calendar.
And
then
it
says
in
the
last
line.
Items
may
be
removed
from
consent
item
from
the
consent
calendar
only
by
a
member
of
the
city
council.
That
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
because.
D
C
H
G
C
H
C
I
Mary
so
typically
calendars
as
Chris
mentioned,
that
uses
discretion,
but
typically
these
are
minutes.
Financial
reports,
contracts,
anything
that's
not
controversial,
and
that
will
help
Council
to
move
along
your
project.
There's
certain
projects
that
requires
a
public
hearing
entitlement
project,
appeals
ordinances,
but
the
second
reading.
The
final
reading
sometimes
can't
go
on
the
consent.
I
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
city
manager,
so
we
have
two
and
two
and
one
so
I
I
would
change
to
to
with
council
member
Moore
and
council
member
vice
mayor
child.
So
we
can
move
forward
all
right.
So,
let's
move
to
8.52,
removing
it
from
consent.
Calendar
council
member
Morris
delete
the
whole
8.52
councilman
mcphroom,
allowed
section
8.52
to
allow
council
members
to
move
at
most
one
item
from
consent
agenda
without
providing
notice
before
the
council
meeting
begins.
Maybe
we
have
some
comments.
B
E
E
For
instance,
our
January
17th
meeting
had
21
items
on
consent
and
they
were
not
simple,
rubber,
stamping
type
things
you
had
the
Lawrence
midi,
Park
and
trail
project
design
Direction,
you
had
Wilson
Park
Community
Garden,
a
contract
award
for
basketball
court,
rejecting
all
bids
for
the
Blackberry
Farm
on
and
on
lots
of
things
here
and
now.
Also,
as
I
had
mentioned
previously
were
there
was
a
requested
shorten
up
some
of
the
decrease,
some
of
the
duties
of
of
and
wholesale
removed.
E
There's
certain
committees,
loading
up
Council,
even
even
further
with
that,
and
so
there's
probably
a
danger
that
we're
going
to
have
even
more
items
put
onto
consent.
In
fact,
show
me
the
money
Financial
transparency
needed
was
put
on
on
consent.
So
the
reason
why
I
would
say
delete
section
8.5.2
is
because
we
we
have
been
relying
on
our
members
of
the
public
who
have
been
very
carefully
going
through
the
agenda.
They
provide
information
and
and
I
I,
really
appreciate
it
and
I
trust
their
judgment.
E
D
C
A
C
As
it's
written
right
now,
the
public
member
does
not
have
the
right
to
remove
agenda
item,
but
our
current
practice
has
been.
The
property
can
come
in
and
say
they
want
to
pull
an
item
here
is
that
report
on
that
item
and
we
have
been
able
to
live
without
that
and
if
the
current
way
it's
written,
unless
the
council
member
re
requests
it
to
be
removed
on
the
before
the
meeting
the
council
member
hearing,
a
public
comment
cannot
request
an
item
to
be
removed
on
the
diets.
Yes,.
C
Yeah
I
like
at
least
one
more
item,
so
agenda
yeah.
So
my
comment
is
actually
I
usually
would
email
the
city
manager
before
meeting
if
I
plan,
to
pull
an
item
so
that
the
staff
know
they'll
be
prepared
to
with
some
representation.
I
think
that's
a
good
practice,
but
it's
true
that
sometimes
I
don't
know
the
information
the
public
may
know
they
might
bring
something
to
the
council
meeting.
It
will
be
great
if
they
can
email
the
council
ahead
of
time.
Then
I
can
pull
that
ahead
of
time.
A
A
E
E
A
Any
item
from
accounting
agenda
shall
notify
the
city
manager
and
CD
card
prior
to
the
meeting,
but
that
doesn't
say
you
can
put
it
at
the
time
so
council,
member
Froome
added.
If
the
council
members
want
to
remove,
they
can
remove
at
least
one
more
item
from
the
consent
agenda
without
providing
notice
for
the
council
meeting
begins
because
at
the
comment
is
we
might
hear
a
public
comment
from
our
communication
from
a
you
know,
a
a
public-
and
you
might
say
oh
I-
would
like
to
have
more
information
on
that.
E
Vote
is
you
put
21
items
on
consent
and
I
have
a
feeling
we're
going
to
see
a
whole
lot
more
in
what
you're
doing
it
with
this
rule
is
making
it
so
that
a
member
of
the
public
tells
us
that
there's
a
problem.
I
can
only
pull
one
item
off
and
the
member
of
the
public
who
made
those
comments
during
oral
Communications
you're,
taking
away
their
ability
to
pull
something
from
consent.
E
B
So
I'll
interject
on
that
one
point:
if
I
might
we,
we
are
all
charged
with
reviewing
these
documents
in
advance,
we
have
not
surrendered
any
right
to
pull
in
an
item
from
consent
in
advance.
That's
all
that's
asked
yeah.
This
prevents
us
from
ambushing
staff
and
leaving
them
unprepared
so
that
we
have
a
bad
discussion
that
winds
up
going
until
who
knows
when
that
is,
that
does
not
make
for
a
good
meeting.
B
This
is
a
compromise
so
that,
if
we
do
have
something
that
has
genuinely
been
missed
and
it's
been
a
we've
been
alerted
to
it
by
a
member
of
the
public
at
the
last
second,
we
still
have
a
mechanism
for
addressing
it.
I
I,
don't
think
that
there
is
some
some
desire
here
to
Ram
things
through,
which
is
what
it
seems
to
be
suggested
at
the
moment.
We
should
all
be
doing
our
homework
in
advance,
and
if
we
want
to
pull
something
from
the
consent,
calendar
then
ask
for
it
before
the
meeting
and.
A
B
A
H
A
Email,
their
council
members,
they
have
issues,
questions
and,
and
they
want
the
council
members
to
put
it.
So
it's
it's
still
a
very
open-ended
for
the
public
to
participate
and
I
want
to
say
there
are
City
cities
who
does
have
this
policy
I
do
believe
today
at
the
West
Valley,
Cities
manager
and
Mayors
meeting
the
city
of
if
I,
do
it
correctly,
Los
Gatos.
G
A
Have
that
policy
that
they
do
not
allow
the
public
to
pull
consent
calendar
but
that
doesn't
pre-coo
the
public,
making
comments
to
consent,
calendars,
email,
staff
with
questions
and
ask
their
council
members
any
one
of
us
or
five
of
us
questions
so
that
we
are
alerted
to
their
concerns
and
issues.
So
I
will
hope
that
the
public
knows
that
this
is
not
to
not
having
them
participate,
and
we
really
appreciate
everybody's
here.
So
that
would.
C
Yes,
I
do
support
the
language
as
written
plus,
council
member
foreign
I.
Think
the
public
then
just
need
to
email
council
members
ahead
of
time
so
that
we
can
make
that
request
on
your
behalf
and
maybe
when
you
are
not
sure
if
you
really
want
to
comment
email
anyway,
so
that
I
think
the
staff
needs
that
notice
that
this
item
will
be
pulled.
They
will
need
to
be
in
person
and
talk
about
the
item.
So
it's
we
just
need
to
be
giving
them
a
bit
more
advanced
notice.
I!
Think
it's
a
good
practice!
Yeah.
E
Pardon
me
yes,
thank
you,
so
this
says
any
member
of
the
city
council
who
would
like
to
remove
an
item.
That's
singular
one
item
from
the
consent.
Calendar
shall
notify
the
city
manager
and
the
city
clerk
prior
to
the
meeting.
So
that's
one.
So
when
we
were
at
the
meeting
on
the
17th,
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
committee
assignments
for
the
Historical
Society
advisory
Council.
Now
that
recommended
action
was
not
what
we
approved.
We
approved
a
different
action.
So
there's
there's
one
item.
The
next
one
was
show
me:
the
money,
Financial
transfer.
E
E
H
So
the
way
that
I
would
interpret
this
the
proposed
language
is
that
each
council
member
is
allowed
to
remove
an
unlimited
number
of
items
prior
to
the
meeting
at
the
meeting.
Each
council
member
would
be
allowed
to
remove
one
additional
item
for
a
total
of
up
to
five.
If
all
council
members
exercised
their
right
to
do
so
so.
A
A
A
A
So
I
I
make
a
very
long
suggestion
because
public
comments
a
lot.
A
lot
of
residents
say
how
about
two
speakers,
three
speakers,
but
then
I
realized.
This
is
way
too
long
and
so
I
do
agree
with
we're
going
to
limit
public
comment
to
10
minutes
if
they
have
five
or
more
and
the
rest
just
the
mayor's
discretion,
because
sometimes
we
might
change
three
minutes
to
two
minutes
and
then
the
two
speakers
might
have
shortened
it
I
understand
I
over
wrote
on
this
one.
A
And
I
did
want
public
comments,
because
this
is
not
opening.
Oh,
this
is
not
open
oral
Communications
or
non-agenda
items.
I'm
hoping
this
sentence
is
referring
to
our
city
council.
All
public
comments
must
be
relevant
to
the
issues
before
the
city
council.
We
have
that
Arguments
for
against
the
measures
should
be
related,
stated
as
concisely
as
possible.
I'm
hoping
our
public
will
follow
the
same
guidelines
that
the
council
members
are
being
subject
to.
That's
why
I
added
this
I
did
not
change
any
language
copy
this
from
the
requirement
for
Council
Members.
C
A
E
A
B
A
B
A
D
A
C
H
So
that's
that's.
The
Brown
act
requirement
is
that
you
know
have
to
allow
public
comment
on
any
item
within
the
the
council's
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
You
know
how
I
think
you
know
we
enforced
that
rule
against
speakers
is
I,
think
a
matter
of
discretion
and
should
be
exercised
delicately
because
you
don't
want
to
to
necessarily
silence.
People
who
are,
you
know,
feel
like
they
have
something
important
to
say,
but.
C
C
C
H
We,
yes,
so
so
so
you
could.
You
I
think
it
would
be
reasonable
to
have
a
shorter
period
for
people
to
express
their
interest
to
speak.
When
there's
an
item
that
there's
you
know
considerable
interest,
the
mayor
can
also
just
request
that
people,
you
know
raise
their
hand
immediately
to
get
a
sense
of
who's
there,
but
yeah
I
I
agree
that
it
CR
it's.
Although
it's
not
necessarily
a
violation
of
the
brown
act,
it
does
create.
You
know
problems
if
you're,
giving
different
people
different
amounts
of
time
to
speak.
C
And
also
we
have
been
allowing
people
attending
virtually
to
speak
first
and
then
in
person
later,
and
then
we
swap
that
today,
but
in
case
there
is
a
lot
of
interest,
there
will
be
an
issue
on
allowing
only
one
set
to
speak
first
so,
and
so
what
I
had
proposed
is
to
adapt.
What
Cupertino
Union
has
been
using
is
to
have
a
virtual
sign
up
speaker
card
so
that
virtually
just
like
in
person
people
can
handing
their
blue
card
as
soon
as
the
meeting
room
opens,
I
think
for
them.
C
It's
30
minutes
before
a
meeting
you
are
allowed
to
submit
your
virtual
card
and
then
the
city
clerk
calls
People
based
on
the
card,
and
so
people
are
attending
in
person
can
also
submit
that
card.
That
way,
there
is
one
order
between
virtual
and
in-person
speakers,
and
also
we
know
earlier
how
many
speakers
might
be
interested
in
speaking
on
item
and
yes,
maybe
we
will
still
close
the
time
to
submit
your
speaker
card
like
five
minutes
after
the
staff
presentation,
for
example,.
H
G
H
L
G
A
I
A
A
The
comment
from
me
is
to
strike
out
the
no
member
of
the
public
may
be
allocated
more
than
a
combined
minute
of
10.,
and
that's
it
I'm
not
going
to
add
anything
else
and
same
thing
with
councilman
Memorial
I
think
we
are
striking
the
same
thing:
councilmember
Froome
wants
something
and
plus
the
public
comment
raised
your
hand
to
submit
car
within
nine
minutes
with
city
attorney's
language,
to
make
sure
that
if
the
public
comment
is
closed,
they
cannot
raise
your
hands
after
public
comment
is
closed.
Do
we
have
a
store
vote
on
this.
E
Made
okay
I'll,
remember
more
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
check
in
perhaps
with
the
clerk
about
the
nine
minutes,
because
we
have
the
the
clock
set
for
three.
If
now,
you've
got
somebody's
gonna
have
to
keep
a
nine
minute
clock,
that's
all
I'm,
saying
and
because
you'll
have
people
that
are
speaking
at
different
different
lengths,
I.
F
C
H
Somewhere,
please
go
in
this
handbook,
so
under
the
under
the
proposed
rules-
and
this
is
a
procedure
that's
used
in
in
most
jurisdictions,
although
not
all
the
you
know,
there's
an
up.
There
has
to
be
an
opportunity
for
public
comment
on
the
consent
item
before
Council
votes
on
it
so
vote's
on
it,
so
that
typically
the
mayor
would
introduce
the
consent,
calendar
and,
and
then
would
there
would
be
an
opportunity
to
to
for
the
public
to
make
comment
on
the
consent
item
as
as
a
whole
before
Council
votes
on
it.
They.
C
I
H
Right,
so
so
so
so
so,
I
I
think
what
the
what
city
manager
who
said
is
correct.
You
know
it's
probably
best
if
it's
done
prior
to
the
meeting.
If
there
was
one
item
that
a
member
of
the
public
wanted
to
be
pulled,
they
should
request
that
from
the
council
member
do
that
before
the
consent
calendar
is
heard.
C
H
C
A
C
A
C
A
A
C
A
E
G
A
A
A
Okay
and
council
member
ciao-
yes,
yes
for
me
too
councilmember
Moore,
yes,
okay,
let's
move
forward
and
now
we're
going
to
8.93
counsel,
questions
and
deliberations.
We
do
have
comments
that
the
mayor,
because
I
was
going
to
ask
to
add
a
member
who
has
been
recognized,
should
limit
their
time
for
five
minutes
to
to
confirm.
With
the
other
statement,
the
mayor
may
add
additional
time
for
deliberation
where
appropriate,
because
the
previous
recommendation
doesn't
say
that
so
I
like
to
have
the
option
for
provide
more
time
for
deliberation
when
appropriate.
A
B
Yeah
sure
so,
I'll
explain
what's
going
on
here.
The
the
substantive
part
that
is
really
changing
is
the
very
end
it
is
designed
to
make
it
consistent
with
the
beginning.
The
idea
is
that
you,
as
a
council
member
each
one
of
us,
would
have
five
minutes
on
question
time
and
that
the
mayor
would
have
the
ability,
through
discretion,
to
allow
additional
questions
at
the
end.
A
A
E
E
G
C
C
C
So
exactly
which
part
isn't
conflicting
I
thought
rosenberg's
rule
is
the
real
way
of
following
is
there
where?
Where
are
we
conflicting
with
that?
I
would
like
to
know
before,
because
maybe
then,
if
we
should
comply
with
the
established,
the
Rosenberg
rule,
rather
than
adopting
something,
that's
comforting,
so
do
we
know
of
any
conflicting
ones.
H
So
yeah,
so
just
just
so
just
sort
of
the
threshold
question,
so
Council
adopted
rosenberg's
rules
that
could
make
modifications
to
the
rules.
It's
that's.
It's
not
unusual
for
jurisdictions
to
do
that
kind
of
adopt
modification
to
the
rules
here.
The
particular
rule
that
would
be
overridden
by
the
proposed
policy
would
be
the
the
the
super.
The
motion
to
limit
debate,
which
you
know
was
generally
requires
a
super
majority
vote
of
the
council
to
to
to
to
call
the
question.
C
C
A
C
H
Doesn't
say
that,
but
it
gives
the
mayor
discretion
to
to
to
allow
or
not
allow
additional
time,
and
because
it's
proposed
I
mean
it
does
clearly
state
that
it
would
displace
conflicting
rules.
I
I,
that
that's
that's.
How
I
interpret
that
language?
It's
council,
member
foreign
language,
so
that
he
should
feel
free
to
to
speak
up.
C
D
E
E
But
there's
been
a
discussion
since
then,
and
information
provided
from
the
city
attorney
so
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
when,
when
you
are
voting
for
council
member
fruen,
you
are
voting
to
limit
debate
by
the
council,
and
that
is
that
is
debate
and
discussion
which
the
council
enjoys.
It
is
for
us
to
talk
about
these
items
for
us
to
deliberate
on
these
items,
and
this
was,
in
my
opinion,
rather
cleverly
and
indirectly
written
so
that
we
needed
to
go
to
the
attorney
to
have
it
explained
for
what
this
actually
does.
E
E
C
C
Like
your
proposal,
the
current
practice
has
been
the
the
mayor
does
limit
time
and
say
we
should
move
on
and
we
do
and
it's
the
mayor
does
have
already
that
authority
to
say
enough
discussion,
I,
think
I'm.
Okay
with
that
and
other
council
members
can
call
a
question
and
then
we
can
say:
okay,
let's
move
on
so
I
think
that's
already
good
enough.
Okay,.
A
B
E
E
A
A
A
B
Sure
this
is
relatively
simple:
I'm
just
trying
to
allow
us
to
be
able
to
extend
the
time
of
a
meeting
if
we
feel
like
it's
necessary
by
a
simple
majority
vote
of
the
council
rather
than
requiring
a
two-thirds
vote,
a
two-thirds
vote
at
present
would
require
four
members
of
the
council
to
agree.
May.
G
H
A
B
B
E
D
G
A
Okay,
so
council
member
froons
is
to
fiber
majority
in
council
member
Moore.
Are
you
willing
to
withdraw
it
or
are
you
going
to
ever
smoke
over
on
that
one
I'll
withdraw
my
withdrawal
ending
is
to
let
the
mayor
have
authority.
So
let's
I
have
to
strong
vote
councilmember.
Anybody
want
to
vote
first.
A
B
A
G
A
H
A
G
E
More
okay,
so
8.12
I
had
some
comments
which
were
not
reflected
here
and
with
regards
to
this
recess
period.
Okay,
so
I'm,
counting
this
out
as
being
seven
weeks
off
and
I
want
to
understand
that.
So,
during
the
recess
period,
the
city
managers
authorized
to
take
such
ministerial
actions
for
matters
of
operational
urgency,
including
such
emergency
actions,
as
are
necessary
for
the
okay,
immediate
preservation
of
the
public,
peace,
health
or
safety,
as
would
normally
be
taken
by
the
city
council,
During,
the
period
of
recess.
E
Okay.
So
what
it
sounds
like?
Okay,
the
city
manager
shall
make
a
full
and
complete
report
to
the
city
council
at
its
first
regularly
scheduled
meeting
following
the
period
of
recess
of
actions
taken
by
the
city
manager.
Pursuant
to
this
section,
at
which
time
the
city
council
may
make
such
findings
as
may
be
required
to
ratify
the
actions
of
the
city
manager.
Essentially,
it
seems
as
though
we're
taking
off
on
a
seven
week,
vacation
leaving
the
city
manager
in
charge
and
then
on
top
of
that,
a
special
meeting
could
be
called
during
that
period.
E
However,
if
we're
trying
to
Now
navigate,
we've
got
a
seven
week,
vacation
break
and
we're
planning
our
time
off
and
now
you've
got
a
special
meeting.
That's
thrown
at
you,
I
think
that
makes
it
very
difficult.
I
think
the
period
of
recess
is
is
far
too
long
and
I
I
would
like
it
shortened
up
so
this
this
past
summer,
I
think
we
had
a
like
two
Council
meetings
that
were
off,
maybe
maybe
only.
H
You
know
so
so.
Certainly
you
know
you'd
under
you'd
want
to
try
to
to
get
everybody
there,
but
you
know
you
know
unless
Council
were
comfortable
delegating
much
more
significant
settlement
Authority,
for
example,
during
the
to
the
City
attorney
during
that
period,
I
I
would
want
to
have
the
ability
to
go
to
council
to
you
know
if
there
was
a
need
for
a
decision
regarding
the
resolution
of
litigation
or
the
initiation
of
litigation,
or
there
could
be
other
emergencies
that
would
warrant
a
special
meeting.
H
That's
correct
I
mean
what
this
so
I
mean.
Typically,
what
the
council
has
done
is
has
has
canceled
meetings
kind
of
on
an
ad
hoc
basis
over
the
course
of
the
Year.
This
is
an
attempt
to
regularize
it.
It's
obviously
up
to
council
if
it
wants
the
period
to
be
shorter
or
longer
at
a
different
time
of
year.
This
was
a.
H
A
A
E
I
E
H
E
A
I
Last
Tuesday,
if
you
remember
clerk's
office,
actually
established
at
the
2023
calendar,
which
was
approved
by
Council,
so
we
could
bring
that
up
again
to
refresh
your
memory.
That
was
the
regularly
scheduled
calendar
event
for
this
year,
but,
as
Chris
mentioned,
that
you
have
all
discretion
to
call
a
special
meeting
for
any
other
budget
reason
or
any
other
project
that
you
wish
to
discuss.
Okay,.
H
I
I
think
no
there's
there
there's
no
reason
other
than
that's.
That's.
Probably
a
more
common
practice
is
for
councils
to
go
dark
in
August
I
mean
there
are
councils
that
take
a
much
longer
break
in
the
summer,
I'm,
not
suggesting
that,
but
if,
if
there
would
be
a
if
there's
a
preference
to
to
have
the
the
recess
in
July,
you
know
this.
Would
you
know
this
is
certainly
something
council
could
adopt
a
different
schedule.
Yeah.
C
I
C
C
C
H
C
A
C
G
C
A
A
C
Adding
8.13,
okay
yeah
study
session
are
meetings
during
which
the
council
receives
information
about
City
business
in
informal
setting.
The
informal
study
searching
setting
is
intended
to
encourage
in-depth
discussion
and
detailed
questioning
and
brainstorming
by
Council
on
issues
of
significant
interest,
including
City
policy
matters,
zoning
applications
and
major
public
works
projects.
The
council
may
discuss
material
freely
without
following
formal
rule
of
parliamentary
procedure,
staff
may
be
directed
to
bring
matters
back
for
future
Council
consideration,
as
no
action
can
be
taken
at
a
study
session.
C
C
So
I'm
not
married
to
things
like
not
following
parliamentary
procedure,
I
think
it's
okay
to
follow
that,
and
but
I
would
like
to
clearly
more
clearly
Define
that
we
should
not
take
action
on
study
session
so
because
that
has
been
the
practice
of
Cupertino
and
so
that
the
property
knows
if
the
council
can
give
direction
and
if
anything
formal
action
will
be
taken
will
be
in
a
next
regular
session.
Okay,.
B
D
A
H
Right
just
to
clarify
the
earlier
discussion:
there
is
no
state
law
or
city
ordinance
or
or
policy
in
place.
That
makes
any
distinction
between
study
sessions
and
other
types
of
agenda
items
on
which
Council
may
act.
That
said,
there's
nothing
preventing
Council
from
adopting
this
type
of
policy.
If
it
wishes
to
do
so.
Okay,.
A
C
E
G
A
If
so,
let's
finish,
this
first
I
think
we're
almost
at
the
end,
so
I
I
am
okay
with
because
again
anything
we
decide
and
voted
on
later
and
the
next
meeting
it
can
be.
This
I
mean
this
Council
has
discretion
to
to
do
otherwise.
So
these
are
just
a
general
direction
and
I
do
believe.
We
haven't
made
any
decisions
during
study
session,
even
though
there
was
a
you
know.
Action
item
recommended
on
the
study
session,
so
I
think
this
council
is
pretty
flexible
on
that.
I
have
no
objection.
H
So,
just
to
clarify
the
the
the
the
the
idea
that
that
is
that
Council
would
take
no
action
so
that
I
I,
you
know
just
just
to
be
clear
what
that
would
mean.
That
would
mean
that
there
would
be
no
direction
from
the
full
council
at
a
study
session
to
you
know,
to
provide
the
staff
to
do
future
work.
H
C
I
clarify
sure:
that's
not
my
intent,
I
think
and
I
think
Council
can
give
direction
even
take
a
vote
on
this
informal
direction
to
staff,
but
no
final
action
should
be
taken
just
like
I
think,
a
road
that
brought
up
all
the
search
the
nine
years
of
study
session.
It
stated
okay
study
session
and
then
final
action
at
a
later
date,
so
it
but
it's
okay.
Like
climate
action
plan,
we
provide
Direction
on
what
we
would
like
to
see
and
then
and
revise
the
Virgin
would
come
back.
That's
the
intent.
C
G
H
A
A
A
G
A
C
B
Think
we
can
fold
it
into
another
discussion
that
we
would
almost
certainly
be
having
on
later
revisions
anyway,
and
that
feels
more
economical
to
me.
I,
don't
generally
like
adding
additional
language
that
I
haven't
seen
the
first
time
that
we
will
see
that
language
is
presumably
when
it
comes
back
to
us
on
the
7th
of
February.
A
A
The
two
proposal
is
one
is
to
remove
it,
not
included
on
the
next
agenda
item
and
then
talk
about
it
as
a
another
separate
agenda
item
or
when
we
come
back
to
revisit,
because
council
member
froon
does
not
like
to
have
a
new
agenda
item,
and
then
we
have.
It
decided
right
away
next
time
and
council
member
ciao
would
like
to
put
it
has
City,
but
City
attorney
work
on
a
language
and
come
back
together
with
this
manual.
A
C
A
A
G
C
Before
that
can
I
add
an
item
that
likely
would
fit
into
the
scope
when
this
comes
back
for
repeating
and
I
think
it's
something
I
have
emailed
City
attorney
about
about
both
Palo
Alto
and
the
Berkeley
Council
procedures
include
that
agenda.
Title
should
be
descriptive
to
indicate
the
content
and
then.
A
G
H
H
A
C
C
Council
members
have
thrived
to
I
think
the
agenda
item
today
specifically
added
including
Council
ceremonial
procedures,
and
it
was
added
because
it
turned
because
of
my
coming
to
City
attorney
and
but
going
forward.
I
would
like
to
make
it
clear.
This
is
something
that
helps
the
public
that
the
gender
title
should
be
explicit.
So.
C
C
A
C
D
A
A
A
A
I
But
I
would
like
to
receive
a
motion
front
Council,
concluding
your
straw
vote
in
terms
of
when
this
can
come
back
under
what
format
and
I
think
Chris
and
I
have
taken
enough
notes
in
terms
of
what
detail
needs
to
come
back,
but
I
will,
if,
if
possible,
we'd
appreciate
a
emotion
front.
Council
on
this
item,.
C
So
so
that's
happy
to
make
that
motion
that
we
accept
the
straw
vote
on
from
this
meeting
on
the
staff,
who
would
come
back
with
the
revised,
take
the
direction
from
today's
meeting
and
come
back
with
the
revised
the
First
Council
procedures
menu
in
the
next
regular
meeting.
But
I
do
want
to
clarify
and
maybe
include
some
of
the
future
agenda
items
that
were
mentioned.
I
wasn't
keeping
track
so
I.
I
I
believe
point
of
clarification,
I
believe
the
study
session
idea
was
brought
up
when
Council
has
adopted
this
policy
and
used
it
for
some
time
and
if,
when
you
want
to
bring
it
back
to
further
clarify,
that's
when
you
can
additionally
add
more
policies
and
Provisions
to
your
existing
policies.
So
we'll
have
a
study
session
for
you
to
consider
and
maybe
examine
how
this
policy
has
governed
and
and
to
add
or
delete
any
further
provision.
So.
I
I
I've
noted
that
you,
the
council,
would
like
to
have
information
on
mayor's
fund,
so
we'll
provide
a
informational
memo
to
Council
on
that
matter.
Council
would
like
to
follow
up
on
TBD.
So
let
me
do
a
cleanup
of
our
current
six
page,
TBD
and
I
will
come
back
with
the
quarterly
report,
as
you
just
approved
on
the
policy.
I
Council
would
like
to
have
exact
time
when
your
questions
can
be
made
into
the
disk
item.
So
I
will
be
following
up
with
mayor
in
terms
of
the
exact
time
and
provide
that
to
council.
Council
would
like
to
have
Clarity
on
what
qualifies
for
a
consent
agenda
item
I
will
provide
again
ml2
Council
from
looking
at
other
cities.
Just
now.
There
are
two
Provisions
I
think
one
on
a
study
session
that
was
proposed
by
council
member
Chao.
I
A
I
I
A
A
A
another
one
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
the
City
attorney
and
city
manager
come
back
with
a
clean
version
of
what
our
stroll
vote
have
recommended,
so
that
we
can
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
next
regular
meeting
and
provide
all
the
information
that
we
just
set
to
council
so
that
we
can
move
forward.
Whether
we
want
to
do
it
or
not,
but
so
so
I
would
like
to
have
a
clean
version.
A
That's
definitely
been
decided
by
this
Council
for
approval
of
in
the
regular
meeting,
but
all
the
rest
of
the
information
I
think
city
manager
caught
almost
all
of
it
will
be
information
items
that
come
back
to
the
council,
so
that
we
have
more
information
to
decide
what
items
we
want
to
add
to
a
gender
item
or
study
session,
because
I
think
we
don't
have
information
to
decide
right
now.
Is
that
a
do?
We
have
a
second
or
let's.
C
C
E
To
come
back,
okay,
and
so
my
concern
is
that
we
only
have
about
11
people
that
have
tuned
in
and
and
to
this
and
I'm,
hoping
that
the
staff
report
is
going
to
be
very
comprehensive
about
all
of
these
changes
because
they
are
like
mentioned
before.
Truly
significant
and
I
haven't
seen
anything
like
this
in
in
forever.
So
I
think
the
public
really
needs
to
be
informed
about
that.
Absolutely
it's.
A
B
A
I
I
know
it's
getting
late,
we
start
at
four
o'clock
mairway
before
Council
takes
a
vote.
The
staff
report
is
pretty
self-explanatory
in
the
interest
of
time.
I
would
skip
the
presentation
and
go
straight
to
my
recommendation
and
I'll.
Take
any
questions
at
the
point
where
public
is
ready
and
council
is
ready.
I
would
recommend
Council
start
on
the
discussion
as
February
7
is
a
packed
agenda
and
so
is
February
21st.
So
it's
March,
7
and
so
is
the
remainder.
Then
we're
getting
to
CIP
in
budget.
I
We
will
be
discussing
the
grand
jury
report
in
the
coming
council
meeting.
So
I
know
this
is
a
late
hours
and
I
I
am
hating
myself
for
saying
this,
but
if
there
is
any
will
by
the
council
to
start
the
conversation
and,
like
I,
said
more
than
happy
to
skip
the
presentation
to
get
to
the
questions
portion
so.
A
C
A
E
I
I
hear
that
I
also
don't
see
the
members
of
these
commissions
and
committees
that
you're
trying
to
ask-
and
that's
that's
really
disturbing
so
they're
not
here
for
this
presentation-
they're
not
here
for
this
discussion,
I,
don't
know
if
they
were
all
informed
that
this
was
happening
right
now,
so
I
I
really
have
a
problem
with
that.
This
is
not
transparent.
A
I
Take
a
stab
at
it
and
Chris
and
Kirsten
jump
in
this
item
has
been
on
both
the
January
17
and
January
25th
agenda.
It's
been
publicly
agendized,
it
is
on
the
city's
website.
We
do
not
make
a
point
of
providing
the
staff
report
or
a
a
special
reminder
to
the
Commissioners
or
the
committee
members,
as
this
is
a
council
policy,
but
I
mean
I
I,
believe
this
item
has
been
adequately
agendized
for
the
wrong
act.
Purpose.
I
The
objective
for
this
item
is
to
sorry
Kirsten
no
worries.
I
know
we
want
to
go
fast,
but
not
that
fast.
So
this
is
the
received
direction
from
city
council
to
consolidate
not
all
of
the
commissions
or
committees,
but
certain
ones,
given
that
they're
similar
in
duties
and
responsibility
and
if
Council
decides
to
move
forward.
A
staff
appreciates
the
council's
direction
to
proceed
with
necessary
Municipal
Code
amendments
to
come
back
into
public
hearing
and
the
first
reading
and
second
reading,
where
the
ordinance
will
become
effective
30
days
after
next
slide.
I
Agenda
for
tonight
is
Introduction
as
I
just
mentioned,
and
provide
background
on
existing
committees.
That
city
has,
in
addition
to
the
existing
commissions
and
committees
that
the
city
has
what's
not
on
the
agenda
is
I
will
briefly
go
over
the
subcommittees
that
has
been
created
by
Council,
probably
in
2021
and
mostly
2022..
I
will
also
briefly
talk
about
the
commissions
and
committees
in
other
cities
within
our
County
and
I
will
end
my
presentation
with
the
staff's
recommendation
and
entertain
any
questions
from
the
council
next
slide.
I
So,
as
I
mentioned,
I'll
start
with
some
background
information.
What
I
did
is
I
pulled
the
table
from
the
staff
report,
but
color
coded
the
commission
with
the
responsible,
Department
liaison
in
a
different
color.
You
will
see
that
arts
and
Parks
and
Rec
is
colored
in
green
public
works
in
Brown,
community
and
development
in
blue
and
I.
Believe
city
managers
later
on,
you
will
see
in
red
and
admin
services
in
Black.
I
This
is
a
way
to
help
me
visualize
the
amount
of
commissions
that
each
department
oversees,
for
instance,
arts
and
culture,
commission
and
their
responsibilities,
are
laid
out
in
the
table
reports
and
it
has
established
liaison
with
the
parks
and
rec
department
and
bicycle
and
pedestrian
commission
reports
and
coordinates
with
Public
Works,
the
Housing
Commission,
along
with
the
Planning
Commission
Works
strictly
and
closely
with
Community
Development.
The
library,
commission,
Parks
and
Rec
commission
again
falls
under
the
parks
and
Rec
Department
next
slide.
I
I
So,
in
addition
to
the
city
commissions,
we
also
have
a
number
of
committees,
the
first
one
again
in
blue
administrative
hearing
committee.
These
are
bodies
that
hear
certain
entitlements
and
projects
that
are
called
out
by
our
municipal
court
and
the
Chief,
Building
official
or
other
staff
liaison
and
Community
Development
departments
is
the
major
support.
The
audit
committee
is
responsible
and
supported
by
the
administrative
service
department.
The
design
Review
Committee
is
another
committee
that
the
Community
Development
Department
supports.
I
Based
on
my
information,
the
design,
Review
Committee
hasn't
really
been
regularly
meeting,
and
but
it
is
a
standing
committee
that
is
currently
codified
in
our
code.
The
disaster
Council
meets
annually
and
it's
also
supported
by
the
city
manager's
office,
the
Emergency
Services.
The
newly
formed
economic
development
committee
is
another
committee
that
the
city
manager's
office,
The,
Economic,
Development
Division,
that
supports
next
slide.
I
Environmental
Review,
Committee
and
housing
element
Community
engagement
plan.
The
cep
committee
are
two
additional
committees
that
Community
Development
Department
supports.
In
addition
to
legislative
Review
Committee
that
is
currently
liaison
through
the
city
manager's
office.
There
is
one
more
committee
and
apologize
for
the
Omission
is
the
sister
city
commission
that
didn't
get
into
this
table
in
the
first
staff
report,
Council
will
find
a
supplemental
member,
including
your
packet,
that
explains
staff's
recommendation
to
remain
the
sister
city
committee,
as
this
carries
a
very
different
function
than
the
rest
of
the
committee
next
slide.
I
I
I
This,
in
addition
to
the
subcommittee
that
I
previously
mentioned
that
has
concluded
its
function,
there
are
a
number
of
committees
that
are
kind
of
still
going
or
have
been
formed,
but
doesn't
have
any
council
members
appointed,
for
instance,
the
legislative
Aid
selection
subcommittee,
the
summer
intern
application
Review
Committee
the
homeless
subcommittee,
where
the
festival
fee
waiver
subcommittee.
So
these
five
additional
subcommittees,
in
addition
to
the
17
or
18
committees
and
commissions,
will
make
a
total
of
over
20
bodies
that
staff
is
currently
supporting.
I
So
this
table
shows
a
comparison
chart
that
was
prepared
for
council's
consideration
in
February
of
2022
I
have
yet
to
update
this
chart
based
on
the
current
population.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that,
given
our
population
size,
roughly
66
000
people,
we
support
17
committees
and
commissions,
not
including
the
subcommittees
where,
if
you
were
looking
at
a
similar
jurisdiction,
say
Palo
Alto,
just
slightly
lessen
our
population,
they
support
a
total
of
14
committees
and
commissions
next
slide
again.
I
So
what
I
have
done
is
to
highlight
the
potential
of
consolidating
some
of
some
of
these
committees
and
commissions.
For
instance,
if
Council
were
to
direct
staff
to
consolidate
the
economic
development
committee,
the
environmental
Review
Committee
and
design
review,
and
the
legislative
Review
Committee
that
will
put
a
saving
of
over
600
hours
of
Staff
time
towards
supporting
these
committees
and
commissions
next
slide.
A
C
I
The
mayor,
if
I
may
so
Kirsten,
if
you
can
help
me,
pull
that
slide,
I
think
it's.
The
second
slide
for
the
subcommittee
I
did
clarify,
and
also
in
the
staff
report,
that
these
are
the
Committees
that
were
recently
formed
by
city
council.
Yeah
I
have
those
here,
but
have
not
either
have
the
council
members
appointed.
Therefore
you
they
cannot
meet
no.
C
Asking
oh
yeah,
so
it
says
no
longer
active
as
far
as
I
know.
The
farmer's
market
subcommittee
never
really
require
the
city
staff
time.
We
just
met
with
the
answer
and
the
farmer's
market
provider
to
connect
them
with
Fremont
Union
and
when
they
were
exploring
different
options.
Fiscal
strategic
plan
committee,
I
think
that
has
I,
don't
think
it
has
ever
made.
The
four
years
I
was
on
the
console
and
Community
funding.
C
C
I
mean
this
is
not
a
good
representation
of
Staff
time.
If
we
that's
what
we
are
talking
about,
many
of
them
are
formed,
but
never
really
required
staff
time
to
support.
That's
the
point.
I
want
to
make
and
some
of
these
next,
the
ones
in
the
next
page.
As
said
no
one
was
assigned,
it
I
think
some
were
intern
and
legislative
Aid
has
some
council
member
assigned,
but
never
met.
C
Also
so
just
want
to
clarify
that
and
I
asked
the
staff
in
addition
to
this
I
think
staff
included
some
committees
that
have
no
council,
member
or
public
member
sitting
on
them
like
the
design,
Review,
Committee
and
administrative
hearing
committee,
and
so
my
question
to
staff
is
trying
to
understand
the
workload.
There
are
other
communities
that
not
listed
here.
Staff
also
is
supporting,
such
as
the
safe
route
to
school
committee.
They
have
weekly
or
monthly
work
group
meeting
and
they
produce
newsletter
and
then
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
legislative
action
committee.
C
K
E
E
I
was
I,
I
guess
assigned
to
it,
but
it
only
met
one
time
and
it
was
its
final
time
and
the
festival
fee
waiver
subcommittee.
We
had
hoped
that
it
would
be
a
continuation
of
the
council
member
Chao
and
myself,
because
we
had
worked
on
the
the
the
Grant
subcommittee
and
presented
our
our
information
to
to
the
council
already,
but
the
festival
fee
waiver
subcommittee.
E
We
were
hoping
to
have
it
continue
on
with
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
of
the
parks
and
rec
Commission,
because
we
had
already
met,
as
you
know,
with
the
director
of
parks
and
rec,
so
that
actually
made
sense
with
regards
to
these
comparisons
here
showing
the
cities
in
Santa,
Clara,
County
and
our
comparison
there.
It
doesn't
always
reflect
the
number
of
meetings
or
actually
I
should
say
it
does
not
reflect
the
number
of
meetings
that
are
held.
So
when
you
mention
the
environmental
Review,
Committee
I
believe
it
meant
met
three
times.
A
B
I
was
hoping
that
the
City
attorney
could
opine
on
the
potential
for
a
conflict
of
interest
on
the
part
of
the
environmental,
Review
Committee,
and
then
the
member
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
member
of
council
that
sit
on
that
committee.
Who
would
then
subsequently
be
hearing
matters
that
had
been
reviewed
by
the
ERC.
H
So
so
so
there
is,
there
is
the
potential
for
not
not
necessarily
a
conflict
of
interest,
but
it
it
a
due
process
issue
that
would
arise.
If
you
have
somebody
who
is
sitting
on
a
committee,
that's
conducting
preliminary
review
of
a
project
ultimately
making
a
decision
about
whether
to
approve
that
project.
E
I'd
like
to
respond
so
to
City
attorney
I
have
been
sharing
the
ERC
for
the
past
four
years
to
on
planning
and
two
on
Council
I
have
not
been
informed
of
a
single
complaint.
If
anything
I've
been
praised
for
adding
training
to
that,
making
sure
that
we
had,
we
had
attorneys,
come
and
inform
us
of
what
our
duties
so
were
there
complaints
that
you've
that
you've
heard.
H
G
A
J
J
I
am
concerned
about
the
following:
the
environmental
Review
Committee.
This
committee
is
a
critical,
has
a
critical
job
to
protect
the
current
and
future
people
who
live
and
work
in
Cupertino
by
reviewing
all
discretionary
projects
that
aren't
exempt
for
evaluation
for
siqua.
The
members
of
this
committee
were
actually
trained,
so
they
would
be
familiar
with
the
issues.
Environmental
reviews
can
take
time
and
they
should
not
be
stuffed
into
a
packed
agenda
that
encourages
items
to
be
passed
on
consent
or
rushed.
J
They
need
to
be
reviewed
thoroughly
by
a
commit
by
committee,
members
that
are
familiar
with
the
material
who
have
other
items
that
who
don't
have
other
items
on
the
agenda
if
it
takes
80
hours
annually,
so
be
it
if
it
will
protect
the
current
and
future
health
and
safety
of
construction
workers
and
members
of
the
public.
It
also
protects
the
city
against
future
litigation
from
health
issues
that
arise
due
to
exposure
to
contaminants.
J
I
request
that
you
keep
this
committee
and
make
sure
that
the
members
are
trained,
design,
Review,
Committee
I'm,
going
to
skip
what
I
said,
but
please
my
request
is:
oh,
the
staff
report
is
confusing
because
on
page
one
it
says
that
it
will
be
rolled
in
the
functions
that
were
previously
designated
for
design,
Review
Committee
and
the
environmental
Review
Committee
would
go
into
planning,
but
then,
on
page
five
it
says
that
it'll
be
as
needed
or
as
appropriate.
So
which
is
it?
You
need
to
be
clear.
You
can't
just
do
it
on
this
fly.
J
Legislative
Review,
Committee
uses
400
hours,
that's
a
lot
of
time,
but
it's
necessary
with
this.
With
our
continuing
changing
laws,
the
city
needs
to
be
proactive
and
the
way
to
do
it
is
to
have
a
committee
focused
on
this.
As
you
see,
everything
gets
stuffed
in
consent
and
passed
in
one
vote:
Economic
Development
Committee.
The
reason
this
was
created
was
because
it
was
a
de
facto
behind
the
scenes
committee
and
the
public.
Wasn't
it
wasn't
visible?
It
was
a
privileged
meeting
between
City
staff
and
the
Chamber.
J
K
Good
evening
city
council
I'm
going
to
talk
about
a
lot
of
stuff
because
we
obviously
didn't
get
to
talk
about
anything
for
the
last
four
hours
and
you
guys
were
making
a
lot
of
decisions
that
the
public
had
no
control
over
and
I'm
very,
very
concerned
about
yeah
I've
been
coming
here
for
22
years,
but
I
have
never
seen
anything
like
this
manual
put
together.
No
one
used
to
mess
with
the
agenda
maybe
two
times
a
year
and
we
discussed
it.
I,
don't
like
this
new
type
of
politics.
That's
come
in
here.
K
You
guys
have
been
sitting
on
the
city
council
for
what
six
two
weeks,
three
weeks
so
already
we
have
a
brand
new
manual
about
what
we
can't
and
can't
do.
The
public
can't
say
anything:
are
we
in
nursery
school
and
then
we're
getting
okay?
The
other
thing
is
we're
getting
rid
of
committees
that,
to
me,
is
a
red
flag
for
shut
the
public
up
I'm
sorry,
my
brother
was
a
National
Guard
member
and
he
died
from
multiple
myeloma.
The
family's
belief
is
that
it
was
from
places
where
he
was
stationed.
K
Multiple
myeloma
is
a
product
of
contamination
from
pcbs,
etc,
etc.
He
was
49
years
old.
He
was
a
National
Guard
member
I
don't
take
lightly
that
we
are
getting
rid
of
the
environmental
Review
Committee.
My
brother
might
be
alive
today.
If
areas
that
he
was
stationed
at
had
been
properly
cleaned
or
disclosed
to
the
public.
I
don't
take
his
life
lightly.
My
family
has
not
recovered
from
his
loss.
He
was
a
psychologist.
He
was
also
a
youth
Minister
leader
and
he
was
a
National
Guard
member.
K
His
loss
is
something
that
the
world
he
should
still
be
here.
He
has
a
grieving
Widow
who
has
not
recovered
and
I
am
not
willing
to
sacrifice
my
city
to
having
environmental
contamination
kill
other
people.
This
is
yeah.
We
can
laugh
about
it.
Let's
roll
the
ERC
away,
I,
don't
really
care
that
Cupertino
is
the
only
city
that
have
it
that
has
the
ERC.
We
have
it
for
a
reason.
We
need
to
find
out
why
there
are
areas
in
this
city
that
need
to
be
looked
at,
etc,
etc,
design
Review,
Committee,
yeah.
K
K
We
have
a
lot
of
bad
things
that
are
happening
in
the
state
right
now
and
the
more
that
the
public
knows
about
it.
The
better
I
don't
want
contaminant
I,
don't
want
other
people
to
die
because
they're
subject
to
contaminations
where
they
live,
and
okay
I'd
like
to
make
the
Historical
Society
historical
committee.
F
L
L
They're
not
viable
at
this
point,
however,
I
would
consider
that
you
continue
to
hold
a
spot
for
the
city
hall
renovation
subcommittee,
because
there's
already
new
fluff
coming
out
about
changing,
potentially
changing
what
has
already
been
decided
by
that
committee
after
hours
of
service
and
good
work
with
staff,
and
so
you
may
just
need
it
again.
You
will
likely
need
it
again
and
it's
a
very
worthwhile
committee
and
I
hope
that
if
it
continues
council
member
Moore
remains
on
it
because
she's
done
the
work.
L
Also,
given
we
don't
what
we
that
we
don't
know
what
will
happen
with
our
housing
element,
we
may
still
need
the
bub
Road
subcommittee,
because
that's
not
something
that's
out
of
the
war
out
of
the
woods
yet
so
just
consider
maybe
putting
it
on
hold,
but
not
getting
rid
of
it.
Environmental
Review,
Committee
Peggy
was
spot
on
everything
she
said
and
I'm
sure
she
had
more
to
say.
L
They
had
three
meetings
within
to
a
two-year
period,
but
it's
not
because
it
shouldn't
be
used.
It
should
be
used,
it's
not
being
used.
The
way
it
is
was
designed
to
be
too
often,
issues
that
should
have
gone
to
a
design
review
are
just
handled
as
a
director
of
Community
Development
makes
a
vote
on
his
own,
and
if
you
go
back
and
look
at
what
those
decisions
have
been,
many
of
them
should
never
have
been
solely
the
director's
discretion.
L
F
G
M
M
It
doesn't
give
this
the
public
any
chance
to
talk
when
the
city
council
is
talking
all
the
time,
I
think
they
should
be
limited,
but
consolidate
definitely
consolidate.
These
commissions
eliminate
the
ones
that
aren't
even
the
Committees
that
aren't
even
being
a
meeting
and
I
I.
Just
totally
agree
with
the
recommendation
by
the
city
manager
and
I
recommend
that
you
adopt
it
for
efficiency.
M
We
need
to
make
our
meetings
more
efficient
so
that
real
governing
can
happen.
San
Jose,
Mercury
News
said
we
were
the
the
least
efficient
city.
As
far
as
our
meetings
are
getting
anything
done,
it's
pretty
sad
and
having
all
of
these
commissions
and
committees,
and
it's
not
helping
the
public
get
more
input.
M
F
N
Hi
good
evening,
I
confirm
with
both
Miss
Griffins
and
Ms
Walton.
We
are
having
massive
changes
in
land
use,
much
of
it
from
commercial
and
that
commercial
allows
more
ground
pollution
than
residential
and
all
of
the
other
Myriad
of
issues
that
go
with
it.
Look
no
further
than
Bayview
in
San
Francisco
and
look
at
the
generational
illness
and
premature
premature
mortality
due
to
the
failure
of
the
city
to
do
due.
Diligence
look
I
Jennifer
said
significantly.
This
is
we're
shutting
the
public
up.
This
is
no
good.
N
You
know
it's
much
easier
to
cancel
a
meeting
than
it
is
to
revive
a
commission
such
as
the
design
review,
design
review
didn't
mean
at
all
last
year,
so
you
know
that
whatever
the
40
hours
it
didn't
happen,
they
were
safe
but
it'll
be
harder
to
put
it
back.
So
please
retain
design
review.
Environmental
review,
Economic,
Development,
Committee
I
was
so
excited
about
that
coming
on
board,
and
especially
the
legislative,
Review,
Committee
I
learned
so
much
from
Jennifer
Griffin
coming
in
and
talking
about.
N
What's
going
on
with
the
legislation,
we
really
need
that
in
our
city,
please,
we
retain
the
design,
Review,
Committee
and
environmental
Review
Committee.
These
committees
already
do
not
meet
very
often
it'll,
be
much
easier,
as
I
said,
to
keep
them
on
standby
than
have
them
re
reform
them.
If
necessary,
city
of
Los
Altos
actually
has
a
design
review.
Commission,
it
isn't
even
a
committee,
don't
we
want
to
make
Cupertino
a
better
place
to
live
these.
N
The
types
of
people
who
serve
on
design
review
are
going
to
be
somewhat
different
than
the
types
of
people
who
serve
on
Planning
Commission.
Someone
who
starts
on
design
review
has
a
narrow
focus
and
specific
expertise.
The
same
is
true
for
environmental
Review
Committee.
Many
of
these
meetings
are,
as
I
said,
are
already
being
canceled,
so
let's
keep
them
penciled
in
in
case
they're
needed
again
specific
interests.
Expertise
is
required
for
this
work.
N
Moreover,
having
a
meeting
of
people
with
a
specific
focus
on
a
specific
topic
will
yield
Superior
results
and
advice
to
the
Planning
Commission,
and
that's
exactly
what
we're
doing
right
here
tonight
we're
having
a
specific
meeting
on
these
specific
things,
and
so
we
need
to
keep
these
special
meetings
around
for
design
review,
environmental
review,
Economic,
Development
and
legislative
Review
Committee,
also
one
to
there's
a
quote
in
their
Council
discontinue
all
previously
formed
subdivision
committees
and
delegate
areas
of
concerns
for
the
city
manager
to
review
in
the
research.
This
is
really
troubling.
N
F
O
This
is
the
first
time
I've
heard
people
shouting
for
more
government,
more
bureaucracy,
I
want
more
bureaucracy
and
everybody
has
their
favorite
committee
or
pet
project.
And
yes,
I,
understand
that,
and
if
we
kept
everybody's
favorite
committee
and
commission
and
whatever
it
would
just
keep
growing
and
growing
and
and
then
pretty
soon
it's
it's
government
run
amok
and
basically,
less
is
more.
O
If
we
have
our
Council
meetings
run
with
less
repetitive
talking,
some
people
seem
to
repeat
their
statement
over
and
over
again
when
the
point
is
mute
because
three
or
four
people
already
passed
the
point
past
the
item
but
the
but
speaking
and
taking
up
a
lot
of
time
causes
the
meetings
that
end
up
being
unmanageable
and
the
same
thing
goes
with
having
all
these
extra
committees
and
commissions.
The
goal
should
be
not
everybody
getting
to
keep
their
favorite,
commission
and
committee
and
subcommittee.
O
The
goal
of
everybody
should
be
efficient
government
that
is
transparent
because
you
have
less
layers
and
impediment,
so
you
can
make
things
less
transparent
by
adding
more
committee
subcommittees,
Etc
and
so
on
to
overwhelm
residents
that
cannot
stay
up
until
11
o'clock
when
they're
working.
So
upon
that
note,
I'm
going
to
prove
that
less
is
more
by
stopping
here
and
I
would
appreciate
it
if,
when
people
speak
at
the
council
that
they
they
put
short
into
the
point,
thank
you.
P
Adding
an
environmental
commission.
We
are
growing
as
a
city.
If
we're
going
to
have
4
300
more
units
added
to
it,
we're
going
to
be
bigger
and
we
we
can't
be
shrinking.
We
actually
need
to
expand
so
for
those
people
that
are
asking
for
Less.
Even
though
I
don't
know,
I
mean
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
they've
served
in
the
commission
and
they
know,
but
it
takes
a
lot
of
work
and
it
does
take
more
work
to
be
transparent.
The
the
meetings
have
to
be
public
Etc.
P
So
I
wanted
to
bring
a
point
about
Kitty
and
and
the
attacks
that
have
been
made
on
this
because
I've
known
Kitty,
even
before
when
she
was
reading
the
initial
environmental
review
documents
for
Valco,
she
found
items
that
had
not
been
discovered
by
the
previous
count.
Not
two
councils
ago,
she
found
items
that
were
not
reported
anywhere.
I
spoke
at
that
council
meeting
that
there
was
a
phase
one
environmental
report
calling
for
a
phase.
P
Two
one
was
not
done,
and
yet
it
was
passed
who
caught
it
and
who
caught
the
rest
of
it
was
Kitty.
She
has
read
through
tones
of
documents
and
so
because
she's,
qualified
and
knowledgeable,
and
so
at
the
time
of
course,
I
know
nothing
about
it.
So
did
that
information
was
not
shared
with
me
until
years
later,
when
it
came
up
now
that
she's
in
Council
in
the
council
meeting
I
got
to
hear
them
and
the
meetings
what
was
discovered
and
now
that
there
does
indeed
need
to
be.
P
You
know
talks
that
there
is
toxic
soil
that
needs
to
be
cleaned
up
and
I
think
that's
extremely
important.
Now,
let's,
let's
please
consider
that
the
council
members,
the
majority
right
now
were
in
support
of
velco
and
were
against
the
phase
two
environmental
report
being
done
at
the
time.
I
was
there
in
the
meeting,
so
I
I
can't
help,
but
feel
that
this
is
almost
an
attack
and
like
all
it.
A
Thank
you
so
much
mother
city
clerk
I
want
to
say
that
we
are
still
operating
on
the
previous
because
we
haven't
make
any
changes.
So
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
open
up
for
console
deliberation
for
five
minutes
each,
because
I
think
our
goal
was
to
end
it
by
midnight.
Still,
if
that's
okay
with
the
council
members
I'll
go
to
our
store
ball.
Is
that
good?
For
because
right
now
we're
hot?
We
hear
a
lot
like
a
lot
of
opinion,
so
it's
good
to
have
a
deliberation
right.
B
Yeah
I'm
willing
to
continue
to
the
extent
that
there
are
members
of
the
public
who
would
still
like
to
be
able
to
comment
on
the
issue
most
of
these
items.
If
not
all
of
them
are
codified
in
the
municipal
code,
which
means
that
they
would
have
to
be
brought
back
as
new
ordinances
to
amend
the
the
municipal
code,
which
means
that
they
will
show
up
on
a
future
agenda.
Item.
A
I'm
going
to
open
up
for
Council
deliberation,
five
minutes
each,
please
because
we're
about
45
minutes
left
but
for
the
sake
of
deliberation,
I
like
to
entertain
a
motion
and
the
second,
so
we
can
deliberate
what
is
going
to
be
delivered
on
our
Motion
in
a
second.
Does
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion.
A
A
I
really
want
to
make
it
really
clear.
This
is
not
to
diminish
any
public
participation
and
I
would
like
to
say
to.
This
is
not
a
final
decision.
The
staff
recommendation
that
has
been
on
the
motion
being
made
and
second
is
for
staff
to
come
back
with
reports
with
items
so
that
we
can
further
discuss
it
so
that
I
want
to
make
very
clear.
A
This
is
not
saying
that
we're
going
to
consolidate
right
away,
and
it's
like
council
member
Froome,
said
they're
going
to
come
back
with
ordinances
when
we
still
have
time
to
public
comment,
discuss
it,
so
it
is
really
not
the
final
final
to
me.
It
is
not
final,
but
to
consolidate
to
me
right
now
is
an
urgent
matter.
First,
we
do
have
short
of
Staff.
Second,
we
do
have
lots
of
things
to
do
and
I
think
you
hear.
A
City
council,
city
manager
says
how
many
things
we
need
to
do,
but
we
don't
want
to
diminish
public
comment
or
public
participation,
so
we're
still
going
to
have
13
if
every
consolidation
comes
through
13,
commission
and
committees.
So
we're
not
going
to
say
we
don't
want
to
listen
to
the
public
it
just
from
today
from
four
o'clock
to
now.
We
are
listening
to
the
public,
so
we're
hoping
that
the
public
understand
what
we're
trying
to
do
right
now
is
for
staff
to
come
back
with
still
recommendations
so
that
we
can
take
a
realistic
look
of.
A
What
can
we
do
still
be
transparent?
Still
do
all
this.
What
we
need
to
do
not
ruin
the
environment
and
not
to
ruin
the
design
but
really
consolidate
what
we
can
do
with
the
best
input,
with
the
most
efficient
staff
time
and
still
move
forward
as
a
city,
so
that
is,
the
I
would
like
to
make
a
comment
at
it
because
we
get
yes,
we
I
understand
to
take
away
something
some
really
not
changes
our
heart,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
cannot
add
things
back.
A
Let's
try
this
and
consolidate
get
good
governments
coming
on
first
and
then
we
can
see
what
we
need
to
do
to
add
to
to
move
forward
to
really
the
current
needs
may
not
be
what
the
past
needs
are.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
are,
we
are
moving.
I
would
love
to
move
forward
with
this,
so
we
can
hear
more
from
the
staff,
so
I'm
going
to
make
comments
like
that
about
two
minutes
and
30
seconds
now.
So
anybody
else
want
to
try
me
please
and
vice
Mohan
yeah.
D
I,
looked
at
this
staff
report
and
I
did
not
see
anything.
That
said
any
there's
there
will
be
less
public
input
that
there
will
be
less
of
responsibilities
that
the
city
manager
engages
in
city
manager
and
staff
engages
in.
So
all
this
is
doing
is
taking
away
subcommittees
and
and
consolidating
them
it
doesn't
mean
the
functions
are
going
away.
D
The
functions
are
being
absorbed
by
other
departments
and,
and
these
are
committees
that
don't
meet
every
month
or
and
and
so
the
they
meet
less
frequently
and
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
May
away.
This
is
a
document,
or
these
are
things
that
can
be
changed
if
they
don't
work.
None
of
this
is
cast
in
stone.
We
can
always
come
back
and
make
changes
if
there
is
a
need
for
another
subcommittee
or
or
expanding
an
activity,
so
I
I'm,
not
sure
which
we
should
not
try
this,
because
it
definitely
reduces
staff
time.
C
So
I
looked
at
the
agenda:
Economic,
Development
and
email.
Sorry,
environmental
review
and
design
Review
Committee
does
meet
very
infrequently
or
not
at
all
in
a
year,
or
maybe
at
most
three
in
one
of
the
year
so
as
reflected
by
the
hours
here,
and
they
are
Nimble
because
it's
either
true
Planning
Commission
or
one
council
member
one
Commission
so
merging
that
into
a
bigger
commission.
I,
don't
understand
it
seems
to
be
taking
more
time
rather
than
less,
and
there
was
people
who
are
not
as
specialized
and
legislative
review.
C
Actually
I
agree
that
we
can
remove
that
for
economic
development.
I
think
it
was
formed
to
solve
a
problem
and
I
have
asked
the
staff.
If
you
propose
to
remove
that,
I
would
like
to
see
a
proposed
solution
to
solve
that
problem.
I
have
not
received
that
the
problem
was
we
had
the
Cupertino
really
needs
to
diversify
our
Revenue
tax
revenue
source.
So
especially
now
we
might
reduce
much
in.
C
We
might
receive
much
reduced
tax
revenue
from
Apple,
and
so
I
asked
how
our
current
economic
development
manager
of
one
person,
even
though
she
is
a
full-time,
compared
with
30
hours
before
10
more
hours.
But
then
how
will
one
person
be
able
to
reach
out
to
a
diverse
industry
of
experts
who
could
provide
input
to
help
Cupertino
look
at
different
industries
that
might
bring
be
interested
in
setting
up
shopping
Cupertino?
How
can
we
make
our
city
more
friendly
to
these
businesses
if
we
don't
talk
to
people
who
actually
run
them?
C
How
do
we
know
and
I
saw
I
think
if
we
want
to
remove
that?
I
would
like
to
see
a
solid
proposal
of
how
that
can
be
achieved
by
City
staff
only
because
it
hasn't
worked
before
then
how
what
has
changed
that
would
make
it
work.
I
need
to
know
that
before
I
can
make
a
decision
on
that,
and
then
the
environmental
review
also
I
think
it's
important
to
fix.
C
C
I
would
like
to
also
understand
the
staff
hours
spent
on
all
those
committees
I
mentioned
earlier,
so
we
have
a
broad,
broader
picture
of
all
the
hours
spent
on
this
other
committees.
Many
people
don't
even
know
about
there
might
be
others
and
some
of
the
Civil
committees
I.
Think
we
next
time
this
comes
back.
We
should
have
an
actual
number
of
meetings
or
staff
staff.
The
meetings
for
those
civil
communities
these.
So
we
have
a
clear
picture
of
exactly
how
much
time,
rather
than
just
let's
count
the
total
number
of
them,
but
I
do
agree.
C
Some
of
the
seventh
committees
should
go
and
the
Palo
Alto
I
think
all
Berkeley.
They
have
I
proposed
that
to
the
City
attorney.
They
have
a
specific
procedure
on
how
the
concept
committee
should
be
appointed,
and
maybe
those
are
with
the
good
Council
procedure.
Where
adopted.
Maybe
you
have
a
more
defined
process
to
to
handle
subcommittee.
Maybe
that
will
be
better.
Thank
you.
E
Okay,
thank
you
so
I'm,
looking
at
agenda
packet,
page
a
PDF
50
over
60.,
the
first
committee
is
the
administrative
hearing
committee.
That's
not
a
committee
from
the
city
council,
that's
a
staff
committee!
I!
Don't
understand
why
that
is
in
our
table.
With
regards
to
audit
committee.
I've
mentioned
this
previously
in
the
last
audit
committee
meeting
on
Monday,
the
staff
recommendation
was
that
they
would
review
them.
Monthly
I
mean
the
quarterly
treasurer's
investment
report.
E
That
report
is
a
report
given
to
the
City
by
Chandler
and
U.S
bank,
and
that
recommendation
removes
the
audit
committee's
duty
to
look
at
the
receipts,
disbursements
and
fund
balances,
which
is
something
that
then
moves
it
to
just
city
council
and
the
reason
why
it's
better
for
us
to
have
this
at
the
audit
committee
is
because
we
get
a
first
check-in
and
somebody
already
looking
through
those
documents
before
it
gets
to
council
with
regards
to
design
review
this
again.
It
doesn't.
It
meets
so
infrequently.
E
There's
no
good
reason
to
to
completely
abolish
that
Economic
Development
Committee,
the
economic
development
committee
had
been
meeting
for
for
decades
and
it
was
four
members
of
Staff
with
four
members
of
the
chamber,
one
member
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
two
members
of
the
city
council.
It
was
not
codified
and,
finally,
we
we
got
it
codified
in
the
municipal
code.
E
2.96.010
and
you
know,
the
the
reasoning
for
it
is
is
great.
The
purpose
enhances
and
promotes
a
strong
local
economy
to
provide
Municipal
services
that
businesses
and
residents
desire
and
need
to
maintain
the
community's
quality
of
life.
Cupertino
is
really
challenged
with
our
local
economy
because
of
the
the
borders
that
we
have
and
the
existence
of
Apple
taking
up
70
percent
of
our
little
over
70
percent
of
our
commercial
space.
E
Home
Depot,
as
you
know,
is
not
in
Cupertino,
so
you're
not
able
to
go
by
your
your
refrigerator,
your
power
tools
and
all
in
within
Cupertino.
We
have,
you
know
very
limited
places
for
that.
The
median
household
income
is
over
155
000.
If
you
look
at
where
you,
where
you
can
buy
your
clothes
or
or
shoes,
it's
very
very
limited
choices
here
so
and
the
mall
is
closed
down.
So
we're
heading
off
to
other
cities,
and
that's
why
we
have
this
incredible
retail
leakage.
E
That's
why
we
need
the
environmental
I
mean
the
economic
development
committee
to
be
here
and
be
active
and
be
you
know
we
just
had
a
report
provided
for
our
economic
development
manager
regarding
our
our
local
retail
situation,
and
it
we
need
help.
Previously,
it's
it's
been
about
90
95
percent
of
our
new
retail
has
been
at
restaurants
with
regards
to
the
environmental
Review
Committee
I
agree
with
members
of
the
public
that
we
need
to.
We
need
to
hang
on
to
this
and
again
what
you
get
with
the
ERC.
E
E
Like
I
said
in
January,
we
had
we
had
21
items
on
consent
and
now
you're
trying
to
to
make
it
so
it's
difficult
for
the
items
to
be
removed
and
and
I
I
think
we're
we're
really
headed
in
the
wrong
direction,
with
with
less
oversight
with
regards
to
audit
those
decisions
that
were
made
there
taking
those
items,
the
request
to
take
those
items
off
of
audits,
duties,
I
think
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
another
embezzlement,
I
really
do
I.
This
is
this
is
very
very.
Concerning
changes.
E
The
housing
element,
Community
engagement
plan
committee
that
had
completed
their
duties,
I
chaired
that
last
year,
so
that
one
is
complete.
There
was
some
wish
to
carry
it
on
in
order
to
keep
the
public
informed
of
the
housing
element
process.
I
think
that
was
a
noble
Noble
request
from
council
member
Chao,
but
I
do
understand
that
that
committee
has
completed
its
its
duties
at
this
time
with
regards
to
the
legislative
Review
Committee.
If
it
does
move
to
council
that
again
is
going
to
pile
more
work.
B
B
H
You
know
if,
if,
if
there
was
a
separate,
it
depends
on
how
it's
the
planning
commission's
jurisdiction
would
be
structured
right
now
there
is
a
separate
hearing
to
determine
whether,
basically,
whether
a
mitigated
negative
declaration
or
a
an
environment,
environmental
impact
report
is
required,
there's
no
requirement
necessarily
to
hold
up.
You
know
public
hearing
on
that
it
can
be
any
kind
of
public
meeting
or
even
in
in
most
jurisdictions.
It
is
done
that
determination
is
made
at
a
staff
level.
H
B
B
B
I
My
understanding
is
that,
subsequent
to
the
interviews,
the
clerk
was
busy
with
the
swearing
ceremony,
the
orientation
and
other
matters
to
support
Council.
So
they
have
not
had
any
paperwork
done
for
the
economic
development
committee
members
and
therefore,
we're
also
waiting
for
Council
to
appoint
a
committee
council
members
to
support
the
economic
development
committee.
They
I
think
the
committee
members
were
expecting
a
January
meeting
to
occur,
but
we
don't
know
what
that
day
is.
Okay,.
I
B
All
right,
thank
you
for,
for
all
of
that
clarification,
you
know.
I'll
just
offer
an
addition
with
respect
to
the
legislative,
Review
Committee
I've
watched
every
or
listened
to
every
legislative
review
committee
meeting
since
I.
Think
its
second
meeting
I
don't
feel
like
this
committee
has
managed
to
achieve
what
its
original
goals
were.
If
we
still
have
the
the
lobbyist
I,
don't
see
any
reason
why
the
lobbyist
couldn't
work
with
the
city
attorney
to
help
leverage
the
interest
that
we
have
and
inform
Council
of
upcoming
legislation
that
might
impact
the
city.
B
You
know
of
the
saying
that
a
a
camel
is
a
horse
drawn
by
committee,
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that,
just
by
virtue
of
having
a
committee
that
you're
going
to
get
a
better
outcome,
we
have
to
balance
all
of
these
things
between
the
amount
of
time
that
that
each
one
of
these
committees
and
commissions
occupies
and
what
the
results
are.
Thank
you
very
much.
Amir.
I
Wave
I
add
if
I
can
add
one
more
to
council
member
fruen's
earlier
point
on
environmental
Review
Committee.
My
understandings
of
the
recently
passed
housing
law,
SB
330
limits,
the
amount
of
or
the
number
of
public
hearing
entitlement
project
can't
go
through.
If
my
memory
serves
me
right,
my
planning
background
tells
me
it
cannot
exceed
more
than
five
public
hearing,
or
is
this
three
five
five?
So
typically
that
would
include
your
environmental
scoping
meeting.
A
Thank
you,
city
council,
for
your
expertise
and
explanation.
So
I
think
I
have
a
couple
minutes
left.
This
is
not
intention
to
rush
anything
through.
This
is
our
second
study
on
this
issue
and
I
have
studied
back
and
forth
force
and
backs.
Ask
questions,
for
example,
the
economic
development
committee.
A
The
recommendation
is,
the
city
is
conducting
research
on
Economic
Development
Committee
in
other
cities,
to
evaluate
what
will
work
best
for
the
city
staff,
City,
anticipate,
presenting
This
research
for
the
city
council's
consideration
in
April.
Oh
sorry,
I
was
reading
something
not
quite
right.
Okay,
that
was
the
previous
silica
okay.
So
what
I
would
like
to
say
what
I
want
to
say
is
on
the
economic
development
committee.
A
Specifically,
if
you
it's
an
open
meeting
and
everybody
would
have
noticed,
I
abstain
from
appointment
from
every
commissioner,
because
it
it's
such
a
new
committee
and
we're
having
new
council
members,
I,
don't
know
who,
but
swearing
very
soon,
I
strongly
objected
and
I
think.
It
was
noted
that
the
previous
Council
appointed
the
Commissioners
without
the
current
council's
ratification.
A
So
I
just
totally
believe
that
if,
if
we
want
to
be
really
transparent,
we
really
need
to
take
a
look
at
this
coming
committee
and
then
say
what
would
work
best
incorporating
our
Economic
Development
directors
opinions
and
come
back
to
the
council
and
make
recommendations
that
is
just
my
personal
purview,
but
to
consolidate
really
doesn't
mean
we're
going
to
let
the
jobs
go
and
I.
Think
councilmember
Froome
in
one
of
the
public
comment
was
right
on
target.
A
Having
less
committee
doesn't
mean
we're
not
going
to
get
the
job
done
and
the
staff
recommendation
is
really
to
bring
back
a
lot
to
the
city
council.
So
that's
why
I
believe
we
need
to
move
move
forward
with
doing
more
research
consolidate
and
go
from
there,
because
the
current
staff
and
the
current
working
situation
at
the
staff
time
and
how
effective
these
commissions
are
working
have
having
more
doesn't
mean
it's
more
effective.
A
I
really
would
like
to
see
what
the
staff's
research
and
come
back
to
recommend
to
us
and
it
will
be
on
the
agenda
and
we'll
have
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Public
comment
discuss
it
ask
questions
and
then
make
decisions
moving
forward,
so
I
think
that's
my
second
Min
two
minutes
comments
and
I've
done.
My
five
minutes
comment.
C
C
A
Thank
you,
okay,
thank
you.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
everything
is
going
to
come
back
to
us.
Today's
recommendation
is
just
to
receive
direction
from
the
city
council
so
that
the
staff
can
start
to
make
these
recommendations
and
come
back
to
council
with
it.
Councilman
I
think
you
have
maybe
a
couple
more
minutes.
E
Okay
right.
So
if
we
were
to
look
at
that,
we
would
be
getting
rid
of
the
audit
committee,
for
example,
and
we
wouldn't
do
that,
because
we
believe
that
that
committee
has
a
really
important
role
right
yeah
and
what
we're
saying
is
that
these
other
committees,
which
have
much
less
of
a
time,
commitment
that
they're
that
they're
not
important
and
they're,
actually
taking
less
resources.
E
The
one
in
particular
that
concerns
me
is
this.
The
abolishing
economic
development
I
did
not
hear
members
of
the
public
coming
out
when
this
item
came
to
council
when
we
finally
codified
it
I
did
not
hear
members
of
the
public
saying
do
not
have
an
economic
development
committee.
They
people
have
been
talking
for
years
in
Cupertino
about
how
we
don't
have
a
diversified
economy.
They've
been
wanting
that
to
be
improved,
and
here
we
have
an
opportunity.
We
went
to
the
trouble
of
interviewing
all
of
these
people
with
from
all
of
their
different
backgrounds.
E
To
make
sure
we
had
a
diversified
group
of
Intel
of
individuals
and
I
was
about
to
say,
intellectuals,
because
I
mean
I
was
blown
away
with,
with
with
some
of
the
candidates
that
we
had.
It
was
amazing
and
I'm
excited
to
see
this
finally
get
going
with
this.
With
this
incredible
team
of
people
who
are
waiting
in
the
wings
and
I,
you
know
I
so,
like
I
said,
if
you're,
if
the
hours
spent
annually
is
the
metric,
why
are
we
keeping
audit?
Why
are
we
keeping
Planning
Commission,
my
goodness
1100
hours,
that
should
go?
E
I
mean
this
is
not
making
sense
and
we
are
not
having
to
do
what
the
city
next
to
us.
Do
we
get
to
be
unique?
We
get
to
do
what's
right
for
our
own
community,
so
I
I
and
going
back
to
having
the
second
set
of
eyes
and
the
extra
group.
Now
what
you're
doing
is
suggesting
that
we
pile
on
more
to
council
you're.
Given
me
too
few
days
to
review
and
and
things
are
not
getting
spread
out
well-
and
you
will
get
a
worse,
a
worse
work
product
from
your
Council
by
doing
that,
so.
A
I
A
D
D
Council
member
Moore
has
talked
about
the
audit
committee
a
couple
of
times
during
the
course
of
this
meeting
and
I
wanted
to
sort
of
get
the
record
straight
from
my
perspective.
Yes,
we
are
making
changes
in
the
audit
committee
setup
we're
making
changes
in
the
way
the
reports
are
being
sent
through
the
the
various
channels.
Finally,
to
city,
council,
nothing
and
I
repeat,
nothing
is,
is
being
diminished
in
terms
of
the
workload.
The
same
reports
are
being
produced,
the
same
amount
of
work
or
needs
of
the
committee
and
the
city
itself.
D
Nothing
is
diminished
in
this
process.
What
we
are
trying
to
do
is
streamline
the
process
itself
and
make
sure
that
the
council
gets
the
same
information
that
it
always
did
and
that
we
don't
we
we
just
focus
on
efficiency
and
focus
on
on
our
on
the
responsibilities
of
the
audit
committee
and
not
reach
out
into
areas
that
doesn't
really
come
under
the
purview
of
the
audit
committee.
D
So
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear
and
the
other
comment
I
wanted
to
make,
and
it
sort
of
goes
back
to
to
the
audit
committee
remarked
that
council
member
Moore
made
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
there
was
some
kind
of
a
bias
on
this
part
of
the
city
council,
City
staff.
With
with
the
staff
report
recommending
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair,
we
had
not
met
the
first
time
we
met
was
way
after
that
staff
report
was
prepared.
D
A
Every
one
of
our
council
members
is
doing
a
really
good
job,
but
that
doesn't
mean
new
council
members
will
not
do
as
a
good
job.
As
you
know,
our
previous
councilman
I
hope
that
the
respect
is
there
to
respect
our
colleagues
ability
and
and
what
they
can
do
to
bring
a
set
of
new
eyes
to
diff
to
different
committees
and
commissions.
That
will
be
just
my
comment.
Thank
you.
G
C
I'd
like
to
request
that
administrative
hearing
committee
be
removed
from
the
list,
because
that's
not
a
console
or
no
commissions.
No
council
members
sit
on
that
committee.
It's
misleading
to
put
it
here
and
count
it
as
a
one
of
the
total
committee
and
the
disaster.
Council
I
was
assigned
to
that
Community
Council
and
it
didn't
meet
for
a
whole
year
and
then
met
once,
but
mainly
it's
receiving
report
from
the
fire
department
and
those
are
reports,
I
think
could
have
just
been
reported
directly
to
the
council
and
those
are
really
good.
C
C
Then
that
card
that
removed,
60
hours
and
I
think
then
Economic
Development
Committee,
that
we
should
let
that
it's
a
being
worked
on
and
people
have
been
appointed
I
think
we
should
just
let
that
run,
and
their
term
is
now
two
years
and
I
think
we
took
council
member
waves
concern
in
mind
when
that
was
approved.
I
would
suggest
that
just
let
it
run
for
two
years
and
the
this
Council
can
decide
after
two
years
how
well
it
runs
and
maybe
modify
the
municipal
code.
C
A
So
why
don't
we
do
this?
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
the
council
members
each
have
one
more
minutes
to
to
give
staff
recommendations
so
that
they,
when
they
come
back
with
their
recommendations,
they
can
incorporate
some
of
our
recommendations.
That
will
be
good
because
this
is
really
to
for
staff
to
come
back
with
a
lot
of
recommendations
ordinance.
So
we
can
still
study.
C
C
C
I
think
a
small
committee
actually
is
more
Nimble
and
more
efficient
and
then
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
administrative
hearing
committee
is
removed
from
this
list,
because
that's
not
the
council
Commission
and
merge
disaster
Council
so
that
to
do
that,
perform
that
function
as
part
of
the
city
council
meeting.
If
that
meets
the
legal
requirement
and
then
retain
Economic
Development
Committee.
A
A
A
I
Has
three
components
one
is
to
move
forward
with
the
consolidation
and
I
got
your
suggestion
for
swapping
out
some
of
the
Committees
that
staff
recommended.
Second,
one
is
to
discontinue
the
sub
committees
and
I.
Think
I
heard
you
say
that
you
would
support
staff
recommendation
to
to
discontinue
the
subcommittees
and
the
third
one
is
to
proceed.
Allow
staff
to
proceed
to
come
back
with
the
ordinance
Amendment
at
a
public
hearing.
C
C
C
A
A
B
A
A
C
C
G
C
Think
the
staff
proposal
is
to
perform
the
function.
That's
currently
stated
in
the
Municipal
Code
by
the
city
council
and
all
the
staff
so
I,
it's
unclear
how
that
would
be
done
so
I
think
this
committee
was
proposed
to
solve
a
problem
that
problems
still
exists.
So
I
would
like
to
know
the
solution.
If
we
are
removing
that
solution.
Okay,.
G
A
B
C
C
G
A
So
the
second,
let
me
clarify
it
first,
the
second
the
secondary.
We
need
to
accept
that
friendly
amendment
to
and
with
the
also
the
motion,
the
councilman
who
made
the
motion.
Would
you
accept
the
friendly
amendment
that
the
council
member
more
child
had
made,
or
do
you
want
to
clarify?
What's
the
friendly
limited.
B
B
G
A
E
A
F
I
Meeting
and
then
just
for
the
record
want
to
make
sure
that
Kirsten
and
my
records
are
accurate.
So
the
emotion
that
passed
was
to
support
staff's
recommendation,
as
stated
in
addition
to
providing
an
alternative
to
the
economic
development
other
than
delegating
to
city
council,
and
this
could
be
stated
in
the
staff
report
to
council
as
part
of
the
ordinance
Amendment
consideration.
A
C
I
I
Believe
the
project
and
Chris
correct
me
I,
believe
the
brown
act
will
actually
simply
say
that
public
hearing
to
consider
amendment
to
Municipal,
Code,
chapter
2,
.2
point
and
this
this
and
that
it
will
not
specifically
say
the
intent
of
what
council
just
did.
That
is
just
to
comply
with
the
brand
act.