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From YouTube: Election 2018: Pros and Cons on State Ballot Measures
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This special election event, hosted by the League of Women Voters of Cupertino-Sunnyvale and the Cupertino Library, provides an in-depth look at each of the measures appearing on this November's California State Ballot. Moderated by Michael Lusk. Recorded October 24, 2018 at the Cupertino Community Hall. (90 min.)
B
B
We
have
two
branches,
an
advocacy
branch
and
a
voter
education
branch.
Neither
branch
ever
takes
positions
on
candidates
or
parties.
The
advocacy
branch
will
sometimes
take
positions
on
ballot
measures
or
general
issues
I'm
from
the
voter
education
branch,
and
we
never
take
positions
on
anything.
Okay,
so,
let's
launch
into
it
I
should
say
that
I
follow
a
cut-set
pattern
for
each
of
the
measures.
I'll
give
I'll,
explain
something
about
the
content,
maybe
something
about
the
background.
B
I'll
give
you
the
fiscal
effects
on
government
I'll,
give
you
some
prominent
supporters
and
opposers
some
arguments
that
supporters
and
opposers
make
and
then
I
end
with
the
campaign
finance
how
much
money
has
been
given
in
support
or
opposition
and
to
explain
that
beforehand.
Committees,
all
money
going
to
support
or
oppose
a
measure
must
go
through
a
committee,
and
so
that's
that's
how
it's
kept
transparent.
That's
how
donations
are
kept
transparent,
so
sometimes
I
say
there
is
no
commit
as
a
bla-bla-bla
date.
There
is
no
committee
registered
and
opposition.
B
That
means
that
there
has
been
no
money
donated
an
opposition
okay,
so
there
are
eleven
state
propositions.
Oh
yes,
rob
has
I
like
to
keep
the
floor
open
to
questions.
I.
Think
people
learn
better
if
they
can
ask
questions
as
they
go
along.
Rob
has
a
microphone
right
there.
So
just
raise
your
hand
if
you
have
a
question
and
he'll
come
over
and
we'll
see
we'll
see
how
that
works
out.
B
Marie
Ann,
also
the
lady
in
the
red
jacket
back
there
by
the
camera,
has
a
microphone
also
okay,
so
there
are
11
state
propositions
on
the
ballot.
This
November
3
were
placed
by
the
legislature
and
eight
of
them
were
placed
by
citizens
by
citizens
we
mean
anybody
who's,
not
the
legislature
could
be
an
individual
could
be
an
organization.
B
The
first
four
propositions
are
all
bond
measures
before
getting
into
the
individual
bond
measures.
I
find
it
safes
time
to
go
through
a
quick
government
bonds.
101
government
bonds
fall
into
two
categories:
general
obligation,
bonds
and
revenue
bonds.
General
obligation,
bonds
are
paid
back
out
of
general
fund
tax
revenue,
that's
sales
tax
and
income
tax
and
is
counted
as
a
part
of
state
debt.
General
obligation,
bond
debt
is
considered
part
of
overall
state
debt
and
general
obligation.
Bond
measures
must
be
approved
by
the
voters.
B
Revenue
bonds
are
serviced
by
a
dedicated
revenue
stream
stream,
and
the
debt
is
not
counted
as
part
as
over.
Overall
state
debt
revenue
bonds
do
not
normally
require
voter
approval.
There
is
an
exception.
This
November,
which
I'll
get
into
the
classic
example
of
a
revenue
bond
issue,
is
one
used
to
finance
the
construction
of
a
toll
bridge.
B
The
bonds
are
paid
off
from
the
toll
revenue
bond
debt
is
incurred
when
the
bonds
are
sold,
not
when
they're
authorized
and
bonds
can
sit
around
for
years
after
being
authorized.
Unsold
bond
financing
is
contrasted
with
pay-as-you-go
financing
pays
ago.
Just
means
you
accumulate
enough
money
until
you
have
a
it
to
pay
for
something
outright
and
the
advantages
you
don't
have
to
pay
the
interest
cost
the
disadvantage.
B
B
B
B
It
goes
to
several
different
programs,
but
in
total
prop
one
bond
funds
are
expected
to
provide
annual
subsidies
for
up
to
thirty
thousand
households
in
multi-family
housing.
That
means
apartment
buildings
and
7,500
farm
worker
households,
down
payment
assistance
to
about
fifteen
thousand
home
buyers
and
home
loans
to
about
three
thousand
veterans,
so
1
billion
of
that
total
4
billion
will
be
repaid
by
and
mortgage
payments.
So
you
can
think
of.
This
is
sort
of
a
hybrid
general
obligation,
a
revenue
bond
measure.
B
The
remaining
three
billion
will
be
serviced
by
general
fund
tax
revenues.
There
would
be
a
cost
to
California
of
about
a
hundred
and
seventy
million
dollars
annually
for
the
next
thirty
five
years
for
a
total
cost
of
about
six
billion.
So
the
background
is
this:
the
woeful
story.
We
all
know
that
housing
around
here
costs
a
lot
houses
in
California
cost
about
two
and
a
half
times
the
national
average
and
is
a
lot
higher
than
that
in
the
coastal
areas.
B
B
California
has
24
percent
of
the
u.s.
homeless
veteran
population,
that's
the
largest
share
of
any
state.
They
say:
California
has
nine
of
the
nation's
10
most
expensive,
metro,
major
metropolitan
areas
whose,
against
it
Howard
Jarvis
Taxpayers
Association
the
California
Republican
Party.
They
say
this
bond
will
result
in
a
temporary
one-time
boost
in
housing
construction
that
will
help
a
very
limited
number
of
people.
It
will
not
do
nothing
to
combat
California's
long-term
housing
shortage.
For
that
minimal
benefit.
Taxpayers
will
be
saddled
with
billions
more
in
debt.
B
So,
as
of
the
15th,
a
total
of
3.4
million
had
been
raised
in
support
and
you
can
see.
Mark
Zuckerberg
and
his
wife
opened
up
started
an
advocacy
group.
They
donated
the
largest
amount.
We
see
a
construction
labor
group.
We
see
a
couple
of
property,
Essex
property
trust.
They
hold
a
portfolio
of
a
residential
property,
California
Association
of
Realtors
and
KP
financial
s,
VCS,
o-p-s
and
I,
don't
know
who
they
are,
and
there
are
no
committees
registered
in
an
opposition.
C
B
B
B
This
also
was
put
on
the
ballot
by
the
legislature
and
it's
best
to
start
with
some
background
on
this
one
prop
63
of
which
the
voters
approved
back
in
2004,
also
known
as
the
Mental
Health
Services
Act
funds,
various
county
programs
aimed
at
helping
the
the
mentally
ill
it's
financed
by
a
so
called
millionaire's
tax.
It's
a
1
percent
surcharge
on
income
above
a
million
dollars
since
prop
63
was
passed.
B
So,
accordingly,
the
legislature
enacted
a
program
called
the
no
place
like
home
program
in
2016
and
no
place
like
home
is
aimed
at
creating
housing
for
this
population.
It
has
not
yet
gone
into
effect
because
of
court
challenges,
so
if
it
were
in
effect,
no
place
like
home
would
authorize
the
state
to
issue
two
billion
dollars
of
revenue
bonds,
which
would
go
to
fund
an
estimated
20,000
supportive
housing
units.
B
This
is
the
idea
is
to
put
the
mentally
ill
into
sort
of
group,
housing
or
housing
together,
where
workers
can
work,
live
with
them
and
keep
track
of
them
to
service
the
bonds
no
place
like
home
would
repurpose
some
of
the
prop
63
/
millionaires.
Tax
revenue
previously
used
to
fund
ongoing
county
programs,
and
here
I
can
say
as
an
aside
that
there
has
been
product
the
counties
that
have
actually
had
problems.
B
Spending
prop
63
money,
I,
don't
know
exactly
why
there's
some
outrage
on
on
some
quarters,
but
the
money
has
just
accumulated
in
the
counties.
There's
a
billions
of
worth
accumulated
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
it's
because
the
counties
can't
get
their
act
together
or
this
the
prop
63
was
too
ill-defined
or
or
what
the
problem
is.
B
Whether
prop
63,
slash
millionaires,
tax
money
can
be
used
to
back
bonds
without
voter
approval,
so
prop
three
was
put
on
the
ballot
by
the
legislature
in
order
to
remove
those
legal
doubts.
If
the
voters
approve
it,
then
all
legal
doubts
are
removed.
There's
no
more
court,
no
court
challenge
can
stand
and
no
place
like
home
would
take
effect
immediately.
If
prop
2
fails
to
pass,
then
no
place
like
home
may
or
may
not
take
place
later,
depending
on
how
the
courts
rule.
B
So
who's
for
it,
California
senators,
Kevin
de
Leon
and
John
warlock,
and
it's
not
often
you
see
those
two
on
the
same
side
of
a
measure:
good
old,
reliable
State,
Building
and
Construction
Trades
Council
of
California,
the
California
police
chiefs,
Association,
the
California
Democratic
Party,
the
LA
Times
and
the
San
Francisco
Chronicle,
and
what
they
say
is
housing
for
the
mentally
ill
allows
coordinated,
coordinated
care
of
mental
health
and
substance,
use
services,
medical
care,
law
enforcement,
education
and
job
training.
They
say
prop:
2
brings
no
additional
cost
to
taxpayers
who's
against
it.
B
The
Contra
contra
branch,
Contra
Costa
branch
of
the
National
Alliance
on
Mental
Illness
I'm,
told
that
other
chapters
of
the
National
Alliance
on
Mental
Illness
have
don't
have
a
problem
with
prop
2
and
Mary
Ann
Barnard.
She
is
an
attorney
who
is
a
mental
health
advocate,
and
she
is
the
one
that
filed
suit
against
prop
2.
B
So
what
some
of
the
arguments
that
I
found
online
against
prop
2,
they
say
prop
2
is
wasteful,
a
hundred
million
of
it
that's
5%
of
the
total
will
go
to
housing
bureaucrats,
they
say
prop.
2
is
unnecessary.
The
legislature
has
already
authorized
counties
to
accumulate
prop
63
funding
for
up
to
10
years
to
use
for
pay-as-you-go
housing.
B
This
first
bullet
point
was
an
argument
put
up
by
Maryanne
Bernard
herself.
She
says
housing
for
this
population
is
needed,
but
stealing
treatment,
money
from
the
mentally
ill
to
pay
off
bonds.
As
the
stip
is
despicable
and
the
last
argument
it
does
nothing
to
change
restrictive
local
zoning
cities
and
counties
are
often
reluctant
to
approve
homeless
housing
leading
to
fewer
new
homes
than
proponents
suggest.
B
B
Doesn't
really
untangle
it?
It's
it's
not
mint.
It's
it's!
The
whole
idea
is
to
build.
How
is
to
build
housing
when
they
prosper
when
they
pass
prop
63
I
guess
the
sponsors
of
the
bill
did
not
realize
how
much
housing
or
was
necessary
to
help
mentally
ill,
and
so
this
is
there
they're
just
trying
to
use
the
same.
The
funding
that
was
originally
so.
B
B
B
An
additional
2.6
billion
to
be
prioritized
for
those
disadvantaged
communities
prop
3
is,
is
administrative,
Lea,
quite
complex.
It
would
provide
funding
to
more
than
a
dozen
different
state
agencies.
They
in
turn
would
allocate
grants
to
local
government
agencies,
Indian
tribes,
nonprofit
organizations
and
private
water
companies
for
specific
projects,
and
in
some
cases
the
local
agencies
would
have
to
provide
matching
funding.
B
There
would
be
an
annual
cost
to
California
of
430
million
over
40
years
for
total
cost
of
over
17
billion.
There
would
be
savings
to
local
governments
because
they
wouldn't
have
to
pay
for
some
of
these
water
projects
that
they
might
otherwise
have
to
this.
The
state
will
pay
for
it,
who's
for
it,
Diane,
Feinstein
and
John
Cox.
In
the
case
of
odd
political
bedfellows,
the
agricultural
Council
of
California,
the
farmers
are
in
favor
of
this
one,
the
nature
conservancy,
the
California
Chamber
of
Commerce,
they
say
California-
must
prepare
for
extreme
variations
in
water
supply.
B
Prop
three
gets
us
ready
for
the
next
drought.
They
say
prop
three
has
money
to
fix
the
Oroville
and
other
dams
to
keep
people
safe
and
hold
more
water.
Prop
three
protects
disadvantaged
communities
by
providing
funding
for
clean,
safe
drinking
water,
who's
against
it,
Central
Solano
citizen
taxpayer,
group
the
LA
Times
The
Chronicle,
the
League
of
Women
Voters
of
California,
the
Sierra
Club
of
California.
B
B
The
last
argument
is
because
this
measure
was
not
placed
by
the
lessee
legislature.
Remember
it
was
placed
by
a
citizen.
It
will
not
go
through
the
annual
legislative
budgeting
cycle
to
ensure
that
the
funds
are
being
spent
effectively.
State
agencies
will
make
their
own
decisions
on
spending
with
little
review
or
oversight.
B
B
Ok,
the
last
of
the
bond
measures
prop
for
the
Children's
Hospital
bond
measure
was
placed
on
the
ballot
by
an
association
of
children's
hospitals.
It
would
authorize
the
state
to
issue
1.4
billion
dollars
of
general
obligation
bonds.
The
proceeds
would
be
used
to
award
grants
to
children's
hospitals
and
hospitals
with
children's
clinics
which
provide
pediatric
services
to
children
eligible
for
the
California
Children's
Services
program.
I'll
call
that
CCS
from
now
on,
CCS
is
intended
to
provide
medical
services
for
children
whose
families
are
unable
to
pay
for
them.
B
Funding
for
CCS
comes
from
the
state
general
fund
and
is
administered
by
medi-cal,
but
Medical
CCS
payments
do
not
cover
the
full
cost
of
CCS
care,
so
the
money.
How
will
the
money
be
spent?
The
funds
will
be
used
for
capital
projects
for
construction
expansion,
renovation
and
equipping
the
pediatric
programs
of
eligible
hospitals.
B
There
would
be
a
cost
to
California
of
about
80
million
annually
over
35
years
for
a
total
cost
of
3
billion
who's
for
it.
You
probably
aren't
too
surprised
to
see
the
California
Children's
Hospital
Association,
the
California
Medical
Association
California
Teachers
Association,
the
Democratic
Party,
the
Mercury
News.
They
say
California.
Children's
hospitals
provide
specialized
care
for
over
two
million
sick
children
each
year,
regardless
of
the
family's
ability
to
pay.
Patient
expenses
are
often
not
fully
covered,
so
hospitals
don't
have
enough
surplus
funds
to
invest
in
new
equipment
and
other
capital
improvement.
B
They
need
taxpayer
help
who's
against
it.
Gary
Wesley
Howard,
Jarvis,
Taxpayers
Association,
the
Republican
Party.
They
say
state
funds
should
not
be
used
to
support
private
facilities.
This
principle
stands
even
when
the
facilities
serve
severely
ill
children.
They
say
bonds
are
not
free
money.
There
are.
There
are
interest
costs
and
that's
money
that
can't
be
used
to
pay
off
unfunded
pension
liabilities
and
K
through
12
education.
B
B
She's
saying
she's
saying:
is
this:
money
is
going
to
building
fund
and
not
really
for
ongoing
programs
for
the
children
and
that's
true,
but
you
could
make
the
case
that
to
support
the
children,
they've
got
to
have
the
proper
equipment
and,
and
they
need
you
know
they
think
they
say
they
need
a
dollop
of
money
to
upgrade
their
facilities
in
order
to
best
serve
the
children.
Yes,
ma'am.
B
E
B
B
Question
is
so
well
timed
because
I
I
have
the
the
slide
right
up
to
answer
your
question
so
before
I
leave
this
measure
of
bonds
and
that
I
want
to
talk
about
just
touch
on
the
overall.
The
state
of
overall
California
debt
California
currently
has
about
83
billion
dollars
in
general
obligation
bond
debt.
That
means
bonds
that
had
been
sold
and
about
39
billion
of
unsold
bonds.
You
can
think
of
unsold
bonds
as
potential
debt.
B
That's
a
debt
that
the
state
has
a
right
to
enter
into
when
it
chooses
so
props,
1,
3
and
4,
and
remember
those
of
the
three
general
obligation
bond
measures
would
authorize
California
to
issue
another
fourteen
point:
four
billion
of
general
obligation
debt
for
a
total
of
ninety
seven
point:
four
billion.
If
all
the
bonds
were
sold
immediately,
but
really
they're
there,
they
won't
be
sold
immediately.
That's
kind
of
an
imaginary
number
that
gives
you
a
sort
of
a
maximum
debt
bond
debt.
B
So
the
annual
cost
of
servicing
prop
one
and
three
one.
Three
and
four
debt
would
be
about
four
hundred
and
thirty
million
annually
paid
over
forty
years
for
a
total
cost
of
twenty
six
billion.
The
proportion
of
general
fund
revenue
spent
on
bond
debt
service.
That's
called
the
the
debt
service
ratio.
The
debt
service
ratio
would
peak
at
about
four
point:
five
percent:
the
u.s.
B
average
debt
service
ratio
is
three
percent
and
I'm
told
that
bond
rating
agencies
getting
twitchy
and
nervous
when
the
debt
service
ratio
hits
about
five
percent,
and
this
is
also
answering
your
question.
Ma'am
a
bond
debt
is
just
one
part
of
overall
California
debt
and
not
the
largest
part.
A
retiree
pension
and
healthcare
liabilities
are
about
271
billion
dollars.
B
B
It
allows
the
homebuyers
to
transfer
the
property
tax
valuation
from
their
old
home
to
their
new
home,
adjusted
by
certain
formulas
which
I'll
get
into
later.
So
current
law
already
allows
such
home
buyers
to
transfer
their
taxable
values,
but
under
more
limited
circumstances
than
prop
5
would
allow,
unlike
current
law
under
prop
5,
there
would
be
no
restrictions
on
the
new
home
value.
Currently,
the
new
home
has
to
be
of
lesser
or
equal
value
than
the
old
home.
B
There
would
be
no
restrictions
on
location
of
the
new
home.
Currently
you
can
only
transfer
property
tax
valuation
within
the
same
county
as
the
old
home
or
to
another
county
that
accepts
property.
Tax,
valuations
I
think
there
are
currently
11
counties
that
do
so,
including
Santa
Clara,
but
it's
at
the
option
of
the
county,
because
accepting
property
tax
valuations
has
implications
for
their
property
tax
base.
B
Finally,
there
will
be
no
restrictions
on
the
number
of
moves
the
homebuyer
may
make.
Currently,
the
homebuyer
may
only
do
it
once
in
his
lifetime
his
or
her
lifetime.
So
here
are
the
adjustment
formulas.
If
the
new
home
has
a
lower
market
value
than
the
old
and
I'll
just
say
it
in
English,
while
you
can
ponder
the
math
formula,
new
home
taxable
value
is
in
the
same
proportion
to
the
old
home
taxable
value,
as
the
new
home
market
value
is
to
the
old
home
market
value.
B
So
if
you
sell
your
old
home
and
you
buy
another
one,
that's
30%
less
expensive,
then
the
property
tax
evaluation
will
be
your
old
homes,
taxable
value
less
30%
30%
cheaper
than
your
old
home
taxable
value.
Okay,
if
the
new
home
has
a
higher
market
value
than
the
old,
the
formula
is
simpler.
The
new
home
taxable
value
is
increased
by
the
difference
in
market
value.
So
if
you
sell
your
old
home
for
500,000
and
buy
a
new
one
for
600,000,
your
taxable
value
goes
up
by
the
difference
between
these
two,
which
is
$100,000.
B
So
who's
for
it,
California
Association
of
Realtors,
probably
doesn't
shock
you
to
see
that
a
California
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
Republican
Party,
and
they
say
it
will
prop
5-
will
create
incentives
for
more
empty
nesters
to
downsize
homes,
putting
more
single
foam
family
homes
on
the
market.
They
say
it
will
help
older,
fixed
income
income
and
low-income
people
find
new
housing
whose,
against
it,
the
California
Teachers
Association,
the
California
State
Association
of
counties,
the
LA
Times
The,
Chronicle
representative
David
Chiu.
B
B
B
B
Right
now,
if
you
have,
you
cannot
transfer
your
property
tax
evaluation.
If
you
buy
a
more
expensive
house-
okay
and
remember
we're
talking
about
your
over
fifty
five
or
you're
severely
disabled.
To
take
advantage
of
this,
it
has
to
be
done,
as
I
mentioned
before
has
to
be
done
within
the
same
county.
You
can
only
do
it
once
in
your
lifetime.
B
B
It's
best
to
start
with
some
background
on
this
one,
so
Senate
bill,
one,
the
road,
repair
and
Accountability
Act
was
passed
in
April
of
last
year,
very
largely
along
party
lines.
It
raises
an
estimated
5.1
billion
dollars
a
year
by
taxes
on
fuel
and
vehicle
fees,
and
it
allows
adjustments
to
those
for
inflation.
You
might
have
noticed
the
sales
tax
on
gasoline
going
going
up
last
November
that
was
Senate
bill.
One
kicking
in
so
Senate
bill,
one
revenues,
finance
transportation,
infrastructure,
repair
and
improvement
about
two-thirds
of
revenues
go
to
highway
and
road
repair
and
improvement.
B
You
that
project
on
Matilda,
maybe
you've,
seen
it
between
101
and
237,
that
is
financed
with
partially
by
Senate
bill
one
money:
seventeen
million
dollars
of
Senate
bill,
one
revenue,
one-third
of
Senate
bill.
One
revenue
goes
to
other
programs
such
as
mass
transit,
but
not
high-speed
rail
I
know.
Somebody
would
ask
me
about
that.
B
B
B
It
would
make
it
more
difficult
in
the
future
to
raise
fuel
taxes
or
vehicle
fees,
because
the
legislature
would
have
to
go
before
the
voters
each
time
it
wanted
to
do
so.
Unless
money
could
be
found
elsewhere,
transportation,
infrastructure,
repairs,
improvements
would
have
to
be
deferred
or
dropped.
B
So
I
went
into
a
little
more
background
on
this
one
than
the
others.
The
state
is
responsible
for
building
and
maintaining
about
8%
of
total
California
Road
mileage,
and
that
includes
50,000
Lane
miles
of
pavement
over
13,000
bridges
and
over
200,000
culverts.
Most
California
Road
mileage
is
built
and
maintained
by
cities
and
counties,
though
they
often
they
usually
receive
partial
financing
from
the
state
total
Road
spending
in
California
at
all
levels
is
about
thirty-five
billion
dollars
a
year
and
twelve
billion
of
that
comes
from
the
state.
B
So
I
think
this
measure
kind
of
boils
down
to
a
few
questions.
The
first
question
is:
do
you
think
that
California
roads
need
repair
and
improvement,
and
do
you
think
that
measures
ought
to
be
taken
to
relieve
the
congestion?
So
to
help
you
answer
the
first
question:
I
the
American
Society
of
Civil
Engineers
gave
the
state
and
overall
D
in
a
to
an
assessment
that
came
out
just
a
few
days
ago,
that
graded
California's
transportation
infrastructure.
B
So
if
you
answer
yes
to
those
questions,
then
the
next
question
is:
where
will
the
money
come
from
to
do
those
things
so
prop?
Six
supporters
claim
that
there's
enough
waste
in
the
system
to
make
up
for
the
loss
of
Senate
bill
one
revenues
if
the
wastes
were
eliminated,
they
believe
that
California
spends
more
than
other
states
to
build
and
maintain
its
road
infrastructure.
They
often
refer
to
a
study
by
the
recent
Foundation,
which
is
a
libertarian
think-tank
that
undertook
a
big,
exhaustive
study,
comparing
Road
cost
between
states
according
to
that
state.
B
To
that
study,
the
cost
and
building
of
building
and
maintaining
California
state
roads
is
two
and
a
half
times
the
national
average,
which
is
the
eighth,
the
most
expensive,
the
United
States
Caltrans
disputes.
The
recent
foundation
study,
they
say
reason
is
using
simple
lengths
of
road
to
compare.
They
say:
California
roads
have
more
lanes
than
the
US
average
three
point.
B
Five
and
the
US
average
is
two
two
point
four,
and
so
a
given
length
is
more
expensive
to
maintain
faster
Caltrans,
also
points
out
that
greater
than
forty
percent
of
us
free
moves
from
California,
Los,
Angeles,
Long,
Beach
and
Oakland
are
three
of
the
United
States
top
five
busiest
ports
and
the
wear
and
tear
of
all
that
truck
traffic
adds
to
the
state's
maintenance
tab.
Other
studies
that
I've
seen
online
indicate
the
California's
cost
per
Lane
mile
is
about
average.
If
all
factors
are
taken
to
account.
But
there
are
many
uncertainties.
It's
not
turns
out.
B
The
question
is
simple:
you
know:
does
it
cost
more
to
build
this
lean
mile
of
road,
then
another
Lane,
Mile
Road?
And
it's
it's
really
quite
a
complicated
issue,
because
there's
lots
of
factors
that
go
into
making
a
road
into
the
cost
of
a
road
that
the
terrain
costs
more
to
build
the
mountains
and
a
flat
roads.
B
It
costs
the
number
of
bridges,
the
number
of
culverts,
the
the
usage
of
the
road
and,
above
all,
the
degree
of
urbanization.
It
costs
much
more
to
build
a
road
in
an
urban
area
than
a
rural
area.
I
think
an
average
of
20
times
more
so
and
and
California
is
the
most
heavily
urbanized
state
in
the
Union.
B
C
H
B
H
B
Just
simple
majority:
simple
majority
of
the
voters:
yes,
so
who's
for
it:
the
Republican
Party
John
Cox,
the
candidate
for
governor
Paul,
Ryan
Speaker
of
the
US
House
of
Representatives
Kevin
McCarthy,
US
House,
Majority
Leader,
and
this
brings
to
light
that
there
is
a
there.
Are
national
political
repercussions
to
this
one.
B
Okay.
So
what
proponents
say
they
say
the
Senate
bill,
one
gas
tax
hike
will
cost
California
families
$700
a
year.
On
average,
they
say
the
tax
was
never
voted
on
by
the
people
and
was
approved.
Despite
a
budget
record,
a
record
budget
surplus,
they
say
Senate
bill,
one
raise
taxes
without
reforming
the
well-documented
waste
and
inefficiency
at
Caltrans
who's
against
it,
Governor
Brown
Chamber
of
Commerce
Democratic
Party,
this
Chronicle,
the
LA
Times,
the
California
Highway
patrolman
Association.
B
B
Okay,
prop
seven-
and
this
is
a
nice
easy
one
to
give
your
neurons
a
break
from
the
frantic
activity.
This
would
allow
the
legislature
to
extend
daylight
saving
times
to
year-round.
I
should
say
this
is
put
on
the
ballot
by
a
citizen,
so
it
would
allow
the
legislature
to
extend
daylight
savings
time
to
the
whole
year
by
a
two-thirds
majority
vote.
B
B
They
say
studies
have
found
that
the
risk
of
heart
attacks
increases
by
10%
in
the
two
days
following
on
time,
change
and
the
risk
of
stroke
increases
8%
for
cancer
patients.
The
risk
of
stroke
increases
25%
for
people
over
age
65.
It
goes
up,
20%
and
I.
Just
turned
65,
so
I'm
really
dreading
the
next.
The
next
time
change.
B
Okay
says
the
time
changed:
cost
California
434
million
annually
in
fuel
and
electricity
costs,
who
was
against
it,
California
senators,
Hanna,
Beth,
Jackson
and
Jim
Nielson
representative
Phillip
Chen,
the
Chronicle
they
say
prop
7
would
fix
something
that
is
not
broken.
It
would
create
too
much
confusion
to
change
daylight
savings
time
again.
I
said
if
California
went
to
permanent
daylight
savings
time
summer
evenings
would
be
light
longer,
but
winter
mornings
would
have
an
extra
hour
of
darkness.
E
E
B
B
B
It
creates
incentives
for
the
clinic's
to
spend
as
much
as
possible
on
the
allowable
cost
in
order
to
minimize
the
rebates,
the
more
they
spend
on
the
allowable
costs,
the
smaller
their
profit
margin
is,
and
the
smaller
the
profit
margin
is
the
less
likely
they're
going
to
have
more
than
a
15%
profit
margin
that
they'll
have
to
refund.
Okay,
so
under
Prop,
8
allowable
costs
fall
into
two
categories:
direct
patient
care,
services,
costs
and
health
care
improvement
costs.
B
Healthcare
improvement
costs
are
defined
as
new
health
technologies,
staff
training,
patient
education
and
counseling
prop
8
would
also
empower
the
California
Department
of
Health
to
establish
other
categories
of
allowable
costs
upon
appeal
by
the
clinic's.
The
clinic's
claim
that
that
appeal
process
would
be
very
slow
and
cumbersome.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
background
to
this
one.
In
2000
the
year
2016
about
140,000
patients
received
dialysis
treatment
in
California.
This
has
been
a
rapidly
growing
share
of
our
healthcare
dollar
for
happy
reasons,
the
reasons
being
that
dialysis
patients
are
living
longer
than
they
used
to
Medicare.
Well,
government
programs,
particularly
Medicare
pay
for
most
treatments.
Medicare
covers
everyone
with
end-stage
renal
disease,
regardless
of
age.
B
B
About
72
percent
of
California
and
the
same
is
true:
nationwide
actually
of
dialysis
clinics
are
owned
by
two
companies:
divita
kidney
care
and
Fresenius
Medical
Care,
give
you
a
kidney
care
and
for
sending
a
submitter
pair
they're,
very
profitable
companies.
Da
Vida
and
Fresenius
have
reported
profit
margins
in
the
18
19
percent
range,
since
2013
divita
has
paid
nearly
1
billion
dollars
to
settle.
Whistleblower
suits,
including
495
million
for
overbilling
Medicare
and
Medicaid.
B
Fresenius
and
divita
have
been
sued
by
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
by
insurance
companies
and
by
investors
for
deceptively
steering
Medicare
eligible
patients
to
private
insurance.
They
set
up
a
something
called
the
kidney
Care
Foundation
and
they
would
refer
a
Medicare
eligible
patient
to
the
kidney
Care
Foundation.
The
kidney
Care
Foundation
would
sign
actually
enroll
them
in
a
private
health
plan,
and
then
they
would
start
the
dialysis
treatment.
B
B
U
HW
has
a
history
of
placing
measures
on
the
ballot
in
order
to
gain
leverage
in
labor
negotiations
and/or
in
attempts
to
get
legislation
passed
so
here
I
should
explain
that
when
a
sponsor
somebody
sponsors
a
ballot
measure,
there
is
an
intermediate
stage
before
is
irretrievably
on
the
ballot
it
can
be
withdrawn
by
the
sponsor,
and
this
can
and
in
some
cases
this
has
been
used
as
a
negotiating
chip.
Uhw
did
this
in
negotiations
with
Kaiser
in
2014.
They
put
a
measure,
something
like
prop
8
on
the
ballot
and
then
Kaiser
got
so
angry.
B
B
B
If
prop
8
were
to
pass
and
the
short
answer
is
nobody
really
knows
it's
too
complicated?
It's
highly
uncertain.
It
depends
on
the
interpretation
of
allowable
costs,
on
the
responses
of
the
clinic
owner
operators
and
the
responses
of
private
health
insurance
companies
so
who's
for
it.
Okay,
we
see
uhw
there
we
see.
Mostly,
we
see
three
labor
organizations,
the
California,
Democratic
Party,
the
Congress
of
California
seniors,
and
some
of
the
arguments
they
advanced
are
dialysis
in
the
US
is
a
market
failure.
Normal
market
forces
can't
work
to
lower
prices
and
raise
quality.
B
Insurance
companies
are
forced
to
pass
the
costs
on
to
all
policyholders,
driving
up
healthcare
premiums
for
all
Californians
who's
against
it.
The
California
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
California
Medical
Association
American
Nurses
Association
Mercury
News
LA
Times
San
Francisco
Chronicle,
the
Republican
Party.
B
They
say
this
first
one
is
an
argument
made
by
the
Dallas's
clinics
themselves.
Prop
8
allowable
costs
do
not
include
the
following:
necessary
costs,
administration,
medical
directors,
clinic
coordinators
professionals,
services,
Insurance,
Advisors,
regulatory
compliance
and
facility
security,
and
that
these
positions,
most
of
them,
are
mandated
by
federal
law.
They
have
no
choice
but
to
hire
these
people,
they
say
under
prop
eights.
A
limited
definition
of
allowable
costs.
Clinics
could
only
recover
69
percent
of
their
operating
costs,
forcing
closures
or
major
cutbacks.
B
H
B
B
B
Currently,
local
rent
control
is
is
limited
by
the
costs
of
Hawkins
Rental
Housing
Act
of
1994
Casta
hawkins,
prohibits
rent
control
of
all
rental
housing
except
apartment
buildings,
first
occupied
before
February
of
1995.
That's
a
simplification,
but
basically
it
basically
it's
true.
It's
a
good
rule
of
thumb
and
also
mobile
home
rental
spaces.
B
So
what
does
prop
10?
Do
it
repeals
cost
of
hawkins,
which
would
allow
local
governments
to
regulate
how
much
landlords
can
charge
tenants
as
long
as
landlords
receive
quote
just
and
reasonable
returns,
unquote
and
I
believe
Justin
reasonable
returns
that
defined
as
6%
over
costs
so
likely
effects
if
prop
10
passes
and
the
legislature
doesn't
pass
a
new
law
regulating
rent
control
and
some
cities
do
implement
rent
control,
the
LA?
Oh,
that's
the
legislative
analyst
office.
B
That's
the
branch
of
government
that
advises
the
legislature
on
financial
matters,
the
Elio
thinks
the
likely
effects
would
be,
and
they
can't
be
more
exact
or
precise
than
this.
The
obvious
some
renters
would
spend
less
on
rent.
Some
landlords
would
get
less
rental
income,
some
renters
would
move
less
often,
some
rental
properties
would
be
converted
to
owner
occupied
housing.
B
So
who's
for
it
that
the
Democratic
Party
Eric
Garcetti,
LA,
Times,
California,
Nurses,
Association,
Teachers,
Association,
San,
Francisco,
Board
of
Supervisors,
the
East
Palo
Alto,
City
Council,
they
say
kosta
hawkins
has
undermined
our
ability
to
protect
our
most
vulnerable
residents
from
being
displaced
due
to
skyrocketing
rent
those
who
lives
closest
knows.
What's
best,
local
governments
should
have
control
over
their
own
City.
B
B
They
say
making
up
for
40
years
of
insufficient
rental.
Housing
production
will
take
a
minimum
of
20
to
30
years.
Rent
control
is
not
a
silver
bullet,
but
all
other
solutions
will
come
too
late,
who's
against
it.
The
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
Business
Roundtable,
the
Small
Business
Association,
the
Republican
Party,
the
America
renews
the
San
Francisco
Chronicle.
B
They
say
almost
all
economists
agree
that
rent
control
reduces
the
quality
and
quantity
of
rental
housing.
They
say
the
only
real
solution
to
the
housing
crisis
is
to
increase
the
supply
of
housing
developers
won't
build
more
rental
housing.
If
we
devalue
the
unit's
they're
considering
building
by
capping
future
rents,
they
say
the
only
people
who
would
benefit
from
rent
control.
Our
current
renters
everyone
else,
including
people
seeking
rental
housing,
will
lose.
B
As
of
the
15th,
a
total
of
nineteen
point,
six
million
had
been
raised
and
support,
and
you
can
see
the
great
largest
by
far
was
by
the
AIDS
Healthcare
Foundation,
that's
as
an
organism
headed
by
Michael
Weinstein.
Who
takes
a
interest
in
these
questions.
The
AIDS
Healthcare
Foundation
was
who
put
this
on
the
ballot,
also,
the
California
Teachers
Association
committee
to
save
our
children,
Nurses
Association
and
the
Liberty
Hill
foundation.
B
As
of
the
15th,
the
total
of
56
million
had
been
raised
in
opposition,
and
you
can
see
that
the
top
five
donors
are
all
associations
of
Realtors
or
property
groups
that
have
probably
have
portfolios
of
residential
property.
Well,
human
nature
are
so
disappointing.
Sometimes,
isn't
it
ok
so
on
to
prop
11?
B
B
B
B
So,
according
to
the
legislative
analyst
office,
if
the
law
were
strictly
applied
to
ambulance
companies,
they
would
have
to
hire
about
25%,
more
ambulance
personnel
and
that
these
higher
costs
would
be
borne
by
the
county
space,
because
the
counties
are
the
level
of
government
the
contract
with
ambulances,
ambulance
companies,
okay,
so
what
would
prop
11
do?
It
would
allow
the
companies
to
require
ambulance
workers
to
remain
on
call
during
meal
and
rest
breaks?
It
requires
the
companies
to
pay
workers
at
their
regular
rates
during
those
breaks.
B
It
also
requires
companies
to
provide
employees
with
training
related
to
active
shooters,
multiple
casualties,
natural
disasters,
violence
prevention
and
mental
health.
To
require
the
companies
to
provide
workers
up
to
ten
ten
mental
health
paid
mental
health
services
per
year,
and
companies
who
offer
health
insurance
would
be
required
to
offer
plans
that
include
long-term
mentals
services.
B
I
guess
the
ambulances
workers
are
exposed
to
some
pretty
ugly
stuff,
sometimes
so
who's
for
it.
California
Republican,
Party,
The,
Mercury
News.
They
say
prop
11
establishes
into
law
the
long-standing
practice
of
paying
EMTs
and
paramedics
to
remain
reachable
during
their
work
breaks
in
case
of
an
emergency.
Just
like
firefighters
and
police
officers,
they
say
prop
11
is
needed
because
a
recent
California
Court
ruling
could
require
EMTs
and
paramedics
to
be
unreachable
while
on
break
they
say.
Ambans
personnel
have
a
stressful
job.
B
B
B
B
B
B
Veal
calves
would
be
required
to
have
at
least
43
square
feet,
usable
floor
space
per
animal
breeding,
pigs,
24
square
feet
and
egg-laying
hens,
one
square
foot
it
gives
the
farmers
until
2021
to
adopt
new
procedures
violations
would
be
misdemeanor
crimes
punishable
by
fines
of
up
to
$1,000.
It
creates
a
good
faith.
Defense
for
sellers,
relying
upon
written
certification
by
suppliers,
assigns
responsibility
for
implementation
and
enforcement
to
the
Department
of
Food
and
Agriculture,
and
the
Department
of
Public
Health
so
who's
for
it.
B
The
Humane
Society
of
America,
the
ASPCA
California
Democratic,
Party,
The,
Mercury
News,
let's
say
locking
farm
animals
and
tight
cages
for
the
duration
of
their
lives
is
cruel.
All
animals
deserve
humane
treatment.
They
say.
Scientific
studies
repeatedly
find
that
packing
animals
and
tiny
filthy
cages
increases
the
risk
of
food
poisoning
who's
against
it.
The
California
Republican
Party
The
Chronicle,
a
couple
of
farmers
groups
and
an
organization
called
Californians
against
cruelty
cages
and
fraud.
B
They
say
livestock
livestock
production
practices
should
be
left
to
those
who
are
most
informed
about
animal
care,
that
is,
farmers
and
not
animal
rights
activists.
They
say
prop
12,
actually
legalizes
the
cruel
cages
for
hens,
the
Californians
overwhelmingly
voted
to
prohibit
ten
years
ago.
This
refers
to
a
measure
that
was
passed
about
ten
years
ago
that
dealt
with
these
same
animals,
and
the
sponsors
of
this
of
this
proposition
felt
that
the
terms
of
that
previous
proposition
were
too
imprecise.
B
I
think
it
took
the
form
of,
for
example,
a
veal
calf
must
have
enough
room
to
get
up
and
turn
around,
and
some
farmers
were
getting
around
that
by
hurting
them
a
lot
of
them
into
one
enclosure,
and
then
they
would
temporarily
herd
all,
but
one
two
went
into
the
enclosure
and
then
the
one
calf
would
have
enough
room
to
turn
around
and
then
so.
This
was
explained
to
me
by
someone
who
was
quite
passionate
about
this
issue.
B
B
Okay.
So,
as
of
the
15th,
the
total
of
four
point,
seven
million
had
been
raised
in
support
and
we
see
the
Humane
Society
the
ASPCA,
a
few
individuals,
I
guess
in
sympathy
with
this.
As
of
the
15th,
a
total
of
five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
have
been
raised
in
opposition.
The
sole
donor
is
the
humane
farming
Action
Fund,
and
so
that
it
that
ends
my
presentation
on
individual
propositions.
Yes,.
B
B
B
K
M
N
Was
an
active
member
of
the
league
when
the
last
proposition
passed
and
it
increased
the
sizes,
but
it
also
said
any
changes
had
to
be
made
by
the
voters.
This
changes
it
so
that
any
changes
can
now
be
made
by
the
legislature
and
we're
out
of
the
picture
and
the
farmers
think
they
can
influence
the
legislature
by
money
rather
than
the
voters.
Okay,.
E
B
B
There
was
a
BA,
there
were
some
bonds
that
were
using
to
being
used
to
finance
transportation
infrastructure
and
then
the
state
fell
on
hard
times.
They
had
to
divert
some
money
to
pay
off
the
transportation
bonds.
I,
you
know
I,
better,
not
I.
Don't
think
I
have
a
clear
enough
memory
of
this,
but
in
general
the
question
isn't
the
answer
to
your
question:
doesn't
no,
it
can't
be
diverted
okay,.
B
B
We
have
to
remember
that
we
voters
can
reasonably
be
asked
to
only
do
so
much
after
giving
a
good
faith
effort,
and
you
still
don't
understand
something
or
you
don't.
You
can't
foresee
the
consequences,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
leaving
to
the
legislature.
There
are
pros,
that's
what
we
pay
them
to
do.
That
brings
up
my
third
point.
We
do
have
a
legislature.
Could
an
issue
be
better
dealt
with
them
than
by
the
voters?
If
a
measure
is
such
a
great
idea,
why
hasn't
the
legislature
already
done
it?