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Dr. Eric Pan, Arden Cho, Jeannie Mai, and George Takei meet in a live virtual panel to debunk disinformation and talk about COVID-19 vaccines. Recorded May 4, 2021.
Recorded May 4, 2021
Video courtesy of the California Department of Public Health
For more information regarding the impact of the COVID-19 outbreak in Cupertino, please visit https://www.cupertino.org/coronavirus
C
Absolutely
and
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
coven,
19
vaccines
and
debunking
disinformation,
we'll
examine
how
the
cope
with
vaccines
are
essential
to
help
end
the
pandemic.
I
know
everybody
wants
to
get
out
and
be
normal
again
and
we're
also
going
to
have
details
about
the
johnson
and
johnson
vaccine,
how
the
vaccines
benefit
you
and
your
community
and
more.
C
C
E
Well,
dr
pond,
and
I
have
a
mutual
friend
named
jay
kuo,
who
went
to
high
school
with
dr
pawn
and
jay,
is
a
very
dear
friend,
but
also
a
very
gifted
composer
lyricist,
who
did
the
music
for
a
musical
that
we
developed
on
the
internment
of
japanese
americans
during
the
second
world
war
and
his
music
is
glorious.
But
he
tells
me
that
both
your
parents
and
his
parents
know
each
other
and
your
parents
invested
in
allegiance.
C
E
So
today
it's
been
almost
three
months
since
we
got
the
shot
and
the
interesting
thing
that
we
felt
was
when
we
got
the
shot,
we
hardly
felt
it.
I
mean
it
was
just
a
little
prick
and
after
the
shot
we
felt
like
we
felt
before
our
friends
had
prepared
us
by
telling
us
that
they
got
brain
fog
or
exhaustion.
E
We
felt
none
of
that.
So
I
we
thought
at
first
that
we
didn't
get
the
shot
just
that
little
prick,
but
we
were
assured
that
we
did
indeed
get
the
shot,
so
we're
fine
and
we're
vaccinated,
but
not
having
felt
anything
since
and
even
before
this
everything's
been
the
same.
We
feel
that
we're
naturally
invincible.
E
Oh,
we
got
the
phaser,
it's
the
pfizer.
You
know,
though,
all
those
years
of
star
trek
between
my
mouth
muscles
to
say,
phaser
and
immediately
brad
chimes
in
with
pfizer.
We
have
a
comic
routine
going.
I
see,
and
he
says
pfizer
back
and
forth,
so
we're
a
comic
duo
and
again
without
brad,
I'm
calling
it
a
phaser
do
remind
me.
It's
a
pfizer
shot
that
we
had
and
we
we
feel
very
good
about
the
whole
thing.
E
D
That's
a
great
question,
so
I
was
actually
lucky
to
be
one
of
the
first
californians
to
get
the
johnson
and
johnson.
Sometimes
we
call
that
the
one
and
done-
and
I'm
really
grateful
that
we
have
three,
as
you
were
talking
about
three
safe
and
effective
vaccines
here
in
the
united
states.
Some
of
the
main
differences
are
that
pfizer
and
the
mederna
are
two
doses.
One
of
them
is
three
weeks
apart.
One
of
those
four
weeks
apart
and
then
the
johnson
johnson
again
is
one
dose.
D
C
Absolutely
I
I
am
have
friends
too,
have
taken
combinations
of
all
three
and
you
know
from
mild.
You
know
maybe
a
little
tired.
The
next
day,
I've
also
heard
some
rumors
about
taking
a
tylenol,
but
otherwise
pretty
much
like
everybody
was
just
like
back
to
normal
after
you
know
a
couple
days
after
the
second
one,
if
they
took
the
two
arden,
do
you
have
any
questions
for
dr
pawn.
F
Yeah
I
mean
similar
to
you
guys.
I
have
friends,
who've
had
all
different
vaccines.
You
know,
of
course
there
are
people
that
were
like.
We
all
got
pfizer
get
pfizer,
then
there's
a
whole
group
that
got
moderna,
and
then
I
actually
had
a
lot
of
friends.
Surprisingly,
I
didn't
know,
but
I
was
just
talking
to
people
recently
that
had
gotten
the
j
and
j
because
of
what
you
said,
dr
pond,
that
it
was
one
and
done
and
it
seemed
easy,
but
I
know
that
there
was
a
brief
pause.
D
D
Almost
over
seven
million
vaccines
had
been
given
and
six
individuals
had
a
very
unusual
type
of
blood
clot
and
those
blood
clots
happen
to
be
in
large
vessels
and
and
all
of
these
women
they
were
in
there
actually
in
their
brains
and
also
accompanied
by
something
that's
different
than
the
kind
of
blood
cuts
you
might
get
from,
for
example,
birth
control,
pills
or
other
kinds
because
they
had
low
platelets.
So
the
pause
was
really
to
take
a
pause,
make
sure
people
were
aware
of
it
make
sure
providers
knew
there
was
something
special
too.
D
They
wanted
to
make
sure
clinicians
knew
to
be
on
the
lookout
for
it,
because
it
changes
the
way
you
might
treat
these
blood
clots
and
also
to
just
take
a
little
bit
more
time
and
see
if
more
of
these
cases
were
going
to
show
up
or
not
and
a
few
more
did.
But
again
the
risk
is
extremely
low
and
the
end
of
all
that,
after
looking
at
all
of
those
studies,
it's
very
clear
that
the
benefits
far
outweigh
the
risks
of
this
vaccine.
D
We
have
seen
that
women
under
50
are
the
ones
that
have
a
slightly
higher
risk
of
these
unusual
blood
clots.
So
women
under
50
might
really
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
other
two
options
as
well,
but
for
some
again
the
convenience
might
be
more
important
and
again
the
risk
is,
you
know
about
two
and
a
million
overall
for
the
general
population,
but
13
in
a
million
for
women
under
50..
So
again,
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
personal
choice
and
certainly
can
talk
to
others
and
your
doctors
as
well
about
that
decision.
D
Yeah,
I
think,
if,
within
the
last
three
weeks,
the
main
symptoms
that
were
associated
with
a
lot
of
these,
these
clots
were
really
serious
headaches,
and
this
is
beyond
that.
First
couple
of
days
you
know
many
of
you
talked
about
the
mild
side
effects
that
many
of
us
felt
like
within
the
first
day
or
so,
but
really
several
days
in
having
you
know
the
worst
headache
of
your
life.
There
was
another
person
that
had
a
blood
clot
in
their
leg
and
some
swelling,
so
those
are
the
kinds
of
symptoms
to
look
for.
F
Oh
okay,
thank
you,
yeah.
I
had
surprisingly
a
lot
of
like
my
mom
friends
that
are
under
the
age
of
50
that
did
get
j
j
and
they
said
they
felt
fine.
Two
of
my
friends,
both
husband
and
wife,
and
they
both
have
children
had
gotten
the
shot
and
they
said
they
felt
great.
I
was
not
sure
which
one
to
get,
but
then
I
got
an
appointment
appointment
for
moderna,
so
I
got
that
so
I
guess
you're
basically
saying
it
is
safe
to
get.
F
D
Think
they
should,
you
know,
look
again
at
what
their
options
are
and,
if
you
know,
may
depend
too
how
quickly
that
someone
wants
to
be
protected
so
to
be
fully
considered
fully
vaccinated
or
protected.
You
have
to
be
at
least
two
weeks
beyond
either
that
one
dose
of
johnson
johnson
or
the
second
dose
of
the
pfizer
morderna.
So
that's
another
factor
as
well,
but
but
there
is
again
that's
the
group
that
I
think
I
would.
C
Sure,
amazing
and
doctor,
I
have
some
questions
too,
because
I
have
a
group
of
friends
who
have
underlying
conditions
and
they're
avoiding
getting
vaccinated
because
they
don't
want
to
heighten
it.
They
haven't
heard
any
specifics,
for
you
know
people
in
that
category.
So
what
would
you
say
to
that?.
D
I
would
actually
say
for
almost
any
underlying
medical
condition:
the
risk
of
actually
getting
covet
19
and
having
more
serious
outcomes
is
much
higher
and
there
are
no
reasons
actually
not
to
get
vaccinated,
so
I
would
actually
strongly
encourage
them
to
get
vaccinated
to
protect
themselves
from
covet
19.
Because
again,
you
have
all
been
hearing
about
the
really
serious
outcomes
and
hospitalizations
and
deaths
from
coven
19
and
again,
if
you
have
other
underlying
medical
illnesses,
some
of
those
actually
put
you
higher
risk
for
going
to
the
hospital
with
coke
and
19..
C
So
I
have
friends
that
are
either
going
through
ivf
or
they're
trying
to
get
pregnant
or
they
are
pregnant,
and
I
also
know
a
lot
of
fertility
centers
that
issue
out
a
document
saying:
you're:
fine,
it's
not
going
to
disturb
any
any
part
of
the
process,
but
they
also
acknowledge
that
a
lot
of
studies
have
not
been
done
because
the
vaccine
is
so
new.
So
what
is
the
actual
real
answer?.
D
So
I
think
they're
getting
good
information
in
that.
There's
no
evidence
right
now
that
any
vaccines,
including
coven
19
vaccines,
cause
any
fertility
problems,
including
any
problems
trying
to
get
pregnant
or
anything
like
that.
So
there
are
some
vaccines
where
we
recommend
a
pregnancy
test
first
or
something
like
that,
and
that
is
not
needed
for
this
vaccine
so
again,
and
the
other
important
thing
to
know
is
you
know
again:
we've
never
had
this
many
millions
of
people
vaccinated
so
quickly
after
vaccine
was
developed
and
authorized.
D
D
F
Yeah,
dr
pond,
you
know
I've
been
reading
and
watching
the
news
and
of
course
just
like
you
said,
there's
so
many
myths
and
there's
so
many
things
that
we're
hearing
and
I
feel,
like
you
know,
there's
all
these
concerns,
which
is
fair
and
I
was
actually
sort
of
one
of
the
later
ones
to
get
vaccinated
out
of
my
group
of
friends,
mainly
because
I
was
scared,
I
just
and
then
it's
not
that
I
wasn't
against
it.
I
just
was
hesitant
because
I
was
like
do
I
get
pfizer?
Do
I
get
modern?
Like
my?
F
My
parents
got
pfizer
and
then
you
know
I
had
friends
that
were
like
no
just
get
j
j,
it's
so
much
easier,
but
then,
of
course
that
fertility
myth
did
scare
me,
but
I
guess
now
I'm
starting
to
hear
that.
There's
new
variants
coming
up
and
obviously
you
know
that's
a
big
concern.
There
are
friends
that
you
know
we
still
haven't
seen
each
other,
even
though
we've
been
vaccinated,
and
so
I
guess
my
question
is:
does
the
vaccine
protect
us
from
new
variants
and
what
sort
of
can
you
share
with
us
about.
D
F
I
feel,
like
that's
a
question
that
so
many
people
have
been
asking,
and
you
know
I'll
be
traveling
actually
to
the
east
coast
for
the
first
time
in
about
two
weeks
and
I've
been
a
little
nervous
because
I
haven't
really
left
since
quarantine
and
everyone
in,
like
my
near
community
oddly
enough,
hasn't,
had
coven,
even
though
I
feel
like
we
know
so
many
people
who
have
in
like
that
second
to
third
degree,
but
just
in
our
immediate
community,
nobody
had
yet,
and
so
we
were
like
still
being
very
careful
and
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
D
Sure
yeah,
I
think
again
we're
watching
that
closely,
but
it's
really
important
to
to
get
that
vaccine
to
protect
you
and
then
the
manufacturers
are
looking
at
you
know.
Are
we
gonna
need
boosters
at
some
point?
I
know
that's
another
common
question.
You
know
just
like
we
get
the
flu
vaccine
every
year.
That
is
a
possibility
because
we
are
seeing
these
variants
that
people
will
need
to
get
boosters
later.
So
that's
the
other
reassuring
thing.
F
D
D
But
I
will
say
historically
with
vaccines,
we've
always
recommended
stick
with
the
same.
You
know
manufacturer
because
that's
where
all
the
clinical
trials
were
and
all
the
data
was,
but
there
is
there
are
some
studies
about
this
and
right
now
the
recommendation
is
to
stick
with
one
manufacturer
unless
it's
unavoidable.
C
I
can't
even
imagine
like
creating
a
little
cocktail
inside
of
me
and
not
knowing
the
results.
That's
crazy,
I
was
afraid,
just
like
you
aren't
end
up
taking
one
so
to
anybody
out
there
who's
running
out
there
getting
samples
of
everything,
that's
crazy,
but
no,
I
I
agree
with
you.
You
know
I
realized
when
I
was
so
hesitant
in
the
beginning.
To
get
any
of
the
shots
was
one
I
wanted
to
observe
other
people
to
just
see.
C
If
something
was,
I
don't
know
what
I
was
expecting
like
a
third
year
grow
out
of
somewhere
or
you
know
somebody
started
walking
different,
so
I
was
calling
all
my
friends
like
checking
with
them
like
getting
them
to
talk
to
me
and
see
if
they
like
for
were
forgetful
or
anything
like
that.
Of
course,
nothing
like
that
happened
at
all.
C
E
Well,
it
sounds
like
from
what
what
we've
been
hearing
that
we
are
seeing
a
little
light
on
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel.
Looking
a
little
optimistic
and
we,
as
I
said,
are
bike
coastal
and
we
spent
more
than
a
year
now
here
in
beautiful
los
angeles.
I
I'm
proud
of
l.a,
but
we
are
eager
to
get
back
to
our
new
york
apartment
and
back
to
the
vitality
and
the
energy
and
the
excitement
of
manhattan.
E
D
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
that
you
know
having
this
conversation
is
one
of
the
best
steps
towards
it
and
I
just
want
to
emphasize
again.
There
are
no
silly
questions.
Of
course
people
want
good
information,
but
the
most
important
thing
to
get
us
back
to
normal
and
back
to
you
know
the
theater
in
new
york
city
and
other
things
is
for
more
people
to
get
vaccinated.
D
So
I
think
the
more
of
us
that
get
vaccinated
the
more
we
get
to
what
we
call
community
immunities.
So
it's
protecting
yourself
protecting
the
loved
ones
around
you,
and
once
we
can
get
to
that
point
where
you
know
we
have
a
vast
majority
of
people
vaccinated,
then
you
know
we
will
be
able
to
to
reopen
and
get
things
back
to
normal
and
in
the
short
term.
I
think
it's
also
a
nice
bonus.
If
you
are
around
other
people
that
are
fully
vaccinated,
you
can
start
to.
D
You
know,
take
off
your
mask
and
be
indoors
if
everyone
is
in
with
you
is
unboxing,
I
mean
it's
fully
vaccinated,
you
can
all
be
together,
and
so
it's
been
so
nice,
for
example,
it
sounds
like
you've.
You
know
heard
about
my
parents
and
when
they
could
hug
my
kids
and
hug
their
grandparents
for
the
first
time
in
over
a
year.
It
was
just
such
an
incredible
experience
and
that's
my
other
thing
I
like
to
explain.
E
Well,
I'm
a
theater
person.
I
work
in
the
theater,
but
if
I'm
not
performing
on
stage,
I'm
usually
in
the
audience
watching
my
very
gifted
friends
performing
on
stage
and
theater,
it
seems
is
still
way
off,
and
so
I'm
hoping
you
know
since
we
got
our
second
phaser
pfizer
shot.
It's
been
almost
three
months.
D
Yeah,
we
sure
have
thank
you
for
asking
that
question
too.
So
we
call
that
effectiveness,
as
opposed
to
you,
know
the
technical
terms
for
the
trials
or
efficacy,
and
we
have
more
and
more
data
accumulating
a
couple.
Recent
studies
showing
that,
after
these
trials,
that
we
have
over
90
protection
from
infection
from
these
vaccines
in
the
real
world
and.
B
D
We
have
vaccinated
over
100
million
people
in
the
united
states
and
over
200
and
something
doses
I
believe,
and
so
again
this
is
an
unprecedented
experience
to
be
able
to
have
this
much
data
this
quickly.
We
just
started
vaccinating
people,
you
know
I
think
december
were
some
of
the
earliest
right
when
it
first
arrived.
E
D
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
different
approaches
and
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time,
trying
to
do
surveys
and
focus
groups
and
trying
to
understand
and
really
trying
to
answer
people's
questions.
So
again,
I
really
appreciate
an
opportunity
like
this
to
be
able
to
hear
the
common
questions
and
be
able
to
respond,
and
I
think
you
know
meeting
people
where
they
are
and
understanding.
Is
it
a
fear,
as
some
of
you
mentioned,
of
the
unknown
or
just
wanting
to
see
more
experience
and
hopefully
getting
people
good
information?
D
E
Well,
I've
been
telling
them
just
take
a
look
at
on
the
on
the
news
what's
happening
in
india,
people
that
are
gasping.
I
mean
millions
of
people
gasping
for
survival
and
I'm
telling
them
that
that's
the
other
option.
You
know,
if
you
don't
take
it.
If
you
don't
ca,
can't
take
the
vaccine
because
of
some
belief,
that's
going
to
happen
to
you,
you're
increasing
the
chances
of
that
kind
of
disaster.
Calamity
happening
to
you
doesn't
seem
to
persuade
them.
D
Yeah,
I
know
it's
a
difficult
thing,
I
think,
and
just
to
bring
it
home
right
here
in
california,
during
our
winter
surge.
We
really
we
were
having
to
get
extra
oxygen
to
the
hospitals,
actually
right
there
in
southern
california,
where
a
few
of
you
are-
and
you
know
right
in
the
united
states,
we
really
almost
overwhelmed
our
health
care
system
and,
as
you
saw
in
certain
cities
and
as
we
all
saw
in
new
york
city
last
last
year,
I
think
it
can
quickly
get
out
of
control
and
vaccines
are
our
best
protection.
D
I
think
some
of
these
other
tools
are
really
helpful
as
well
such
as
making
sure
until
we
get
people
vaccinated
people
wear
their
masks.
Testing
is
another
tool,
but
I
think
it's
a
you
know.
It's
only
good
for
when
you
take
the
test
and
we've
seen
lots
of
examples
where
people
take
the
test
and
the
next
day
they
were
infecting
other
people,
so
vaccines
are
really
our
best
protection
and
yeah.
I
really
hope
we
can
continue
to
work
on
people's
beliefs
and
then
get
our
whole
community
vaccinated.
E
C
C
So
we
would
just
robe
like
naked
in
the
foyer
and
then
walk
through
our
house
to
go
to
the
shower
to
then
shower
and
then
put
on
dishwashing
gloves
to
go,
take
the
dirty
clothes
from
the
foyer
and
then
go
put
in
the
wash
with
like
hot
hot
water
and
wash
them
like
twice.
I'm
not
doing
that
again.
So
get
us
away
from
that
and
you
brought
back
memories,
george
about
going
to
the
gym
and
you
know
being
able
to
be
at
the
theater.
C
C
F
F
I'm
going
to
see
my
mother
this
weekend
and
it's
like
these-
are
things
that,
obviously
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
we
haven't
been
able
to
do,
and
so
I
really
really
hope
that
everyone,
you
know
whether
they're
afraid
or
they're,
unsure
or
against.
It
hope
that
they
would
do
the
research
and
learn
and
get
vaccinated
so
that
we
can
just
get
back
to
what
we
might
call
normal.
D
Yeah
and
actually
again,
those
of
you
that
are
fully
vaccinated
actually
can
travel
now,
but
it
is
interesting.
More
and
more
airlines
and
countries
actually
in
asia
are
increasingly
requiring
proof
of
vaccination
and
it's
required
for
a
lot
of
large
events.
Now
or
at
least
some
proof
of
testing
or
vaccination
is
a
one
of
the
common
approaches
here
in
california.
D
So
it's
really
important
to
you
know,
keep
your
record
in
in
place,
and
I
know
there
are
more
and
more
applications
evolving
that
can
help
you
verify
that
you've
been
vaccinated.
But,
yes,
I
think,
if
you're
fully
vaccinated,
it
is
a
okay
to
travel
and
see
those
people
that
you
miss
they're
vaccinated
as
well.
E
We
sold
the
rights
to
japan
to
produce
translated
and
produce
it
in
japan
and
the
production
opened
in
in
early
april
in
tokyo,
and
we
really
wanted
to
go
for
that
opening
and
we
had
been
vaccinated
twice
and
we
felt
that
we
were
fine.
But
japan
will
not
let
you
in
I
mean
their
decision
without
quarantining
in
japan
for
two
weeks
14
days,
and
you
know,
the
hotel
costs
in
tokyo
are
staggering.
E
I'm
not
going
to
stay
in
the
hotel
room
for
14
days,
and
so
we
thought
the
production
was
supposed
to
move
to
nagoya,
halfway
down
japan
and
play
for
a
week
there.
We
thought
we
might
go
there
and
the
14-day
quarantine
still
remained
and
it
was
going
to
have
its
final
run
in
osaka
in
late
april,
and
so
we
were
planning
hoping
praying
that
we
could
go
to
japan
in
late
april
and
still
the
14-day
quarantine
exists.
E
Global
athletic
event
and
they
require
a
14-day
quarantine,
it's
absolutely
baffling
and
frustrating,
and
we
know
we
never
were
able
to
see
they
sent
us.
The
actors
singing
some
of
the
beautiful
songs
in
translated
into
japanese
and
the
translation
was
so
poetic,
so
beautiful
and
so
moving,
and
we
desperately
wanted
to
see
it,
but
that
opportunity
is
gone
because
of
and
and
the
vaccination
rate
in
japan
is
way
below
ours.
D
Yeah,
that's
interesting,
I
mean,
and
then
there
are
other
countries
that
you
know.
Of
course
india
is
the
worst,
but
there
are
many
other
countries
who
are
having
surges
right
now
too,
and
to
your
point,
I
think
we've
had
access
to
vaccine
much
earlier
than
many
countries,
so
we're
really
lucky
so
it
may
take
longer.
I
think
it
will
take
longer
for
the
rest
of
the
world
to
get
vaccinated,
but
I
think
it's
great.
D
C
Well,
that's
all
about
our
time
I
am
so
filled
with
so
much
information
and
confidence.
Now,
dr
pond,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
patience
with
all
of
our
questions
and
for
being
so
detailed
and
so
equipped
with
all
the
information
that
we
need
to
know
in
order
to
make
the
right
decision
now,
everybody
else.
Thank
you
for
being
such
a
great
audience.