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Coverage of the Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting, recorded on Tuesday, December 21, 2021. Part 1 of 2.
A
C
C
A
And
I'm
here,
thank
you,
madam
city
clerk,
all
right,
so
our
first
two
items
on
our
agenda
tonight
fall
under
ceremonial
matters
and
presentations
item.
One
is
a
recognition
of
the
2021
stem
winners
from
the
city
of
cupertino
who
participated
in
the
santa
clara
county,
2021
synopsis
championship
science
fair.
Tonight
we
have
a
couple
of
people
from
the
organization:
that's
the
santa
clara
valley,
science
and
engineering,
fair
association
or
s-c-v-s-e-f-a.
A
We
have
board
member
alina
chaduri,
chowdhury
and
forrest
williams.
Our
old
friend
from
sv
cbsefa
will
be
receiving
the
certificates
and
you
know
forrest.
I
know
that
he's
been
involved,
since
this
was,
I
think
it
was
even
one
of
the
predecessors
was
westinghouse
for
a
long
time.
When
you
know
the
older
among
us
were
around
and
participating
in
these,
but
in
any
event,
shall
we
have
a
a
brief
set
of
remarks
from
alina
welcome?
D
Hello,
hello,
richard
welcome.
I
am
on
the
board
of
the
santa
clara
valley,
science
and
engineering,
fair
association
and
we're
very
happy
to
here
to
be
here
and
congratulate
the
the
students
for
their
enormous
achievement
and
participation,
and
we
are
here
to
encourage
them
in
the
path
of
science
and
engineering
going
forward
and
helping
them
in
any
way.
We
can.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
forrest
did
you
want
to
say
anything.
I
know
it's
on
you
to
present,
but
we
have
all
the
names
here.
Welcome
back.
A
E
I
just
want
to
thank
the
the
mayor
mayor,
paul
and
vice
mayor
leon,
chow
and
kitty,
moore
and
hungwe
and
john
wooley,
for
their
willingness
to
honor
the
student
from
the
city
of
cupertino,
also
the
staff
people
that
helped
with
putting
all
of
this
together
when
kristin
squasia,
esther
quan
and
the
city
clerk's
office.
They
helped
prepare
all
of
the
certificates.
E
We've
picked
up
the
certificates
already
and
we'll
be
mailing
them
to
all
the
participants,
but
it
just
just
it
just
shows
a
concern
that
government
has
or
we
have,
for
our
students
in
our
city
that
do
good
work,
they're
planning
for
the
future,
and
they
will
be
benefiting
us.
So
I
always
say
that
if
we
want
to
change
the
future,
we
must
put
the
architect
together
today
so
that
they
will
be
able
to
fulfill
the
obligations
of
the
future.
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much,
councilmember
williams.
Thank
you
for
everything
that
you've
done
for
our
community
and
for
us
over
the
years.
This
has
been
just
a
wonderful
legacy
that
you've
put
forward,
obviously
really
great
and
interested
involvement
with
our
students
over
the
years
as
well
as
alina,
and
you
know
really
appreciate
it
and
we'll
no
doubt
see
you
guys
back
here
next
year,
right.
E
A
All
right,
great,
so
item
number
two
is
the
proclamation,
the
shinshin
educational
foundation,
recognizing
a
quarter
century
of
their
volunteer
work.
But-
and
yes,
I
can
do
the
math
between
1997
and
2021
is
actually
24
years,
and
you
know
I
won't
lean
on
the
fact
that
we're
very
close
to
2022,
so
we're
quite
close
to
the
25-year
mark
or
the
fact
that
you
know
sometimes
in
some
cultures.
You
do
start
counting
at
one
year
at
the
inception,
but
you
know
in
any
event
we're
near
the
quarter
century.
A
Mark
we
have
a
representative
from
shinshin
educational
foundation
to
speak
a
bit
to
the
activities
that
they've
done
over
this
past
couple
of
decades
and
a
half.
I
believe,
steve
team
from
the
organization
is
here,
welcome
steve.
A
And
if,
if
steve's
not
on,
I
can
say
a
few
words.
F
Okay,
hey.
A
F
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
mayor
darcy
paul.
My
name
is
steve,
teen,
a
long
very
long
time
resident
in
this
beautiful
city
of
cupertino
and
I'm
the
chairperson
of
the
xinjin
educational
foundation,
registered
501c3
organization
on
behalf
of
the
tens
of
dollars,
hundreds
of
volunteers
and
supporters
in
the
bay
area,
many
of
them
live
and
work
in
our
work
in
cupertino.
F
I
thank
the
city
of
cupertino
and
the
council
for
your
recognition
and
support
over
the
years
and
deeply
appreciate
mayor
darcy
paul
who
took
the
time
from
his
very
busy
schedule
to
attend
the
foundation's
annual
event
on
sunday.
The
foundation's
work
is
to
provide
the
basic
educational
facilities
to
those
poor
elementary
schools
in
europe
and
remote
villages
in
china,
but
by
doing
so
we
also
serve
the
objective
for
the
international
friendship
between
wonderful
people
of
two
great
countries.
F
F
F
Lastly,
we
appreciate
that
I
put
in
many
hours
for
the
community,
like
people
have
a
different
viewpoints,
work
like
what
you
do
and
what
we
do
is
designed
create
a
platform
to
help
everyone
so
and
lastly,
I
wish
you,
on
behalf
of
the
foundation,
all
the
volunteers,
wish
you
all
a
healthy
and
a
happiest
holiday
season.
Thank
you
again.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
steve
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
work
that
shinshin
has
done,
for
you
know
the
betterment
of
not
just
our
society,
but
you.
E
A
International
relations
and
helping
educate
and
build
up
infrastructure
over
the
course,
the
last
24
years,
all
right
great.
So
we
are
on
to
postponements
and
orders
of
the
day
as
per
our
agenda.
There
are
two
items
that
are
being
postponed
to
to
a
later
date.
You
can
read
the
indicators
and
information
on
items
3
and
4.
A
beyond
that.
I
would
also
like
to
move
that
we
move
item
25
prior
to
item
24..
May
I
have
a
second
for
that
motion,
councilmember
moore,
second,
okay,
very
good.
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
from
public
at
this
time,
so
let
me
go
and
I
do
see
one
hand
raised.
Okay,
I
see
two
hands
raised,
there's
joe
kunzler
gene,
badord,
colin
user,
and
so
let
me
go
ahead
and
take
those
members
of
the
public
comments.
Let's
go
ahead
and
set
this
to
a
minute.
A
Okay,
I
don't
hear
gene
bador
speaking,
and
so
I
will
assume
that
perhaps
the
hand
raised
is
for
a
subsequent
item.
Let's
go
ahead
and
take
this
back
up
to
council.
Are
there
any
comments
from
city
council
with
regard
to
this
item,
placing
25
before
item
24
and
the
reason
we
have
it
in
the
agenda?
The
way
that
we
do
otherwise,
I
would
have
ordered
it
in
this
way-
is
that,
according
to
code,
we
have
to
have
you
know
a
certain
ordering
and
so
putting
item
25
before
item
24.
A
Simply
is
our
only
mechanism
for
doing
this
in
this
part
of
the
meeting
at
the
beginning?
So
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
from
council,
madam
city
clerk,
would
you
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote.
A
Great
thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk
item.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
going
to
be
oral
communications.
Oral
communications
is
the
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak
on
any
item
that
is
not
on
the
agenda
and
so
with
regard
to
oral
communications.
I'll
continue
my
practice
as
mayor
as
long
as
you
have
your
hand
up
by
the
end
of
the
time.
The
first
person
concludes
speaking.
You
will
be
able
to
speak
under
this
item
and
any
other
item
with
regard
to
the
agenda
and
so
oral
communications.
A
C
A
Okay,
the
person
labeled
column
user1
will
need
to
speak
at
this
point.
Otherwise,
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
person
with
a
hand
raised.
You
are
unmuted
and
I
don't.
G
Okay,
okay,
oh
thank
you,
city,
council,
samara
and
a
guest
and
as
a
city
residents-
and
we
have
something
very
unthinkable
happened,
and
we
have
people
and
without
our
notice,
came
to
the
backyard
and
and
took
down
the
build
up
and
also
confiscated
a
personal
belongings
and
they
filed
a
paper
the
day
before
sunscreen,
when
we
were
not
seeing
the
time
and
also
show
underhanded
finding
a
different
case.
G
So
all
the
all,
the
paperwork
and
all
the
motions
and
objections
we
had
before
deemed
useless
and
there's
a
cities
all
around
the
countries
around
and
even
the
states,
and
they
have
a
case
of
20
30
years.
So
we
we're
actually
friends
were
helping
people
and
they
had
a
even
quarter
orders
and
the
city
county
state.
They
all
worked
things
out
and
unbelievable
happened
to
this
city
and
and
also
I
wondered
how
the
ethics
on
in
this
matter-
and
it's
also
so
cruel
and
doing
all
these
holidays.
G
How
you
imagine
family
can
go
through
that
and
we
want
to
know
what's
all
right
on
this
and
and
we
we
also
actually
had
a
symbolic
permit
as
well
and
for
something
only
90.
Some
square
foot
and
some
kind
of
12
feet
high
and
we
had
a
warning
as
well
and
also
look
from
the
neighbor's
side
where
it
was
a
little
bit
higher
because
we
have
a
higher
ground.
You
know
that's
border,
I
don't
know
whoever
is
or
somebody's.
G
I
don't
know
what
happened
there
and
we
want
to
know
what
all
right
yes
on
this
matter
and
the
whole
thing
is
so
cruel.
So
and
if
you
have
anybody
wants
help
out,
we
have
phone
number,
four,
eight,
three,
nine,
six,
nine,
four,
six:
zero
again:
four:
eight:
three:
nine:
six:
nine,
four:
six
zero!
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
calling
user
one.
The
next
speaker
with
a
hand
raised
is,
I
don't
see,
hands
raised
on
my
my
screen
here.
Although
it's,
it
is
indicating
that
there
are
two,
it's
showing
again
jennifer
griffin,
followed
by
joe
console,
welcome
jennifer.
H
Thank
you,
mayor
darcy
hi,
I'm
jennifer,
griffin,
happy
holidays,
everybody.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
that
ab1401,
which
is
the
laura
assembly
person,
laura
friedman,
scott
senator
weiner
and
nancy
skinner,
a
bill
that
was
introduced
in
february
of
2021,
which
reduces
parking
minimums
across
the
state,
is
coming
up
for
review
in
january
when
the
legislator,
california
legislative,
opens
again.
This
was
essentially
put
into
a
two-year
bill
and
they
will
be
discussing
it
when
they
come
back.
H
H
No
one
is
asking
in
this
case.
No
one
asked
the
people
in
california
what
they
thought
about
this
bill.
They
just
the
legislators
for
some
reason,
just
decided
to
do
this
eliminate
parking
standards
across
the
state.
Why
are
we
starting
out
with
the
entire
state?
Why
don't?
Why
doesn't
senator
wiener
propose
this
for
san
francisco
or
nancy
skinner?
Do
this
for
berkeley,
oakland
or
laura
friedman?
Do
it
for
southern
california?
I
believe
she's
assembly
person
out
of
los
angeles.
H
H
I
I'm
really
really
concerned
that
we
have
people
in
sacramento
that
somebody
voted
in.
These
are
not
any
of
the
people
I
voted
for
and
they
are
making
decisions
for
the
rest
of
the
state
without
asking
anyone
it
it's
it's
gone
too
far,
and
I
I
am
fully
believe
that
next
year
they
will
put
in
legislation
to
not
allow
anyone
to
drive
in
the
state.
H
I
that's
that's
where
we're
going
in
this
dystopian
universe
that
they're
in,
but
I
really
I'm
very
very
concerned
about
9
and
10,
but
1401
is
going
to
become
just
as
bad
as
the
other
one
anyway
keep
your
ears
open,
because
this
is
going
to
go
fast
and
I
predict
the
governor
will
endorse
it.
Thank
you.
A
I
Thank
you
for
having
me
cupertino
city
council.
I
wanted
to
thank
councilmember
moore
profusely
tonight.
The
first
available
opportunity
for
intercepting
rowan
lebrun
at
her
policy
advisory,
vta
policy
advisory
committee,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
stepping
up
for
public
transit
for
civility.
I
think
it's
really
important.
I
We
have
people
like
you
in
the
transit
community
that
will
stand
up
and
when
you're
on
these
federated
boards,
which,
for
those
that
don't
know,
are
boards
comprised
of
elected
officials
to
oversee
multi-jurisdictional
governmental
bodies
and
stand
up
and
say,
hey
that
abuse
isn't.
Okay,
because
I've
seen
this
kind
of
stuff
happen
in
my
puget
sound
and
we
haven't
had
people
stand
up
so
much
up
there
and
then
things
just
snowball.
So
it's
so
so
important
that
we
take
a
moment
and
we
applaud
councilmember
moore
for
what
she
did.
I
I
know
his
pandemic
makes
it
hard
to
justify
in-person.
Thank
you
visits
and
stuff,
but
so
I
wanted
to
place
a
zoom
call.
I'm
sure
you've
all
heard
the
news
by
now,
and
I
also
want
to
pass
along
a
message
to
all
of
you
from
my
good
friend
monica
malone,
who
said
quote
it's
so
important
that
they
are
finally
taking
action
to
protect
themselves
from
him
and
quote.
I
I
think
that
that
sentiment
is
held
by
every
transit
advocate
on
in
the
pacific
coast.
Imagine
if
we
didn't
have
board
member
moore
stand
up
and
say
you
need
to
look
into
that.
I
We
could
have
had
a
tragedy
and
because
of
her
courage
and
leadership,
a
lot
of
people
are
feeling
safer
and
breathing
a
lot
easier
tonight,
and
I
just
wanted
to
call
in
and
just
say
thank
you
councilmember
moore
for
all
you've
done
and
continue
to
do
for
public
transit,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
council
for
having
me
this
evening
and
I
wish
all
of
you
well
in
cupertino.
I
understand
it's
a
community
where
you
build
all
your
nice
apple
ipads,
my
parents
and
I
absolutely
love
ours.
A
Thank
you
joe
and
happy
2022
to
you
as
well.
Okay.
So
that
concludes
our
oral
communications
for
this
evening.
Let's
bring
it
back
up
to
council
following
oral
communications
on
our
agenda,
our
reports
by
council
and
staff.
Those
are
items
five
through
seven
item.
Five
is
brief
reports
by
council
member
activities
and
brief
announcements.
I
will
go
first.
A
I
have
relegated
my
summary
to
my
mayor's
corner
for
this
month
and
so
I'll
be
sending
that
over
to
the
city
clerk
after
the
conclusion
of
our
meeting,
and
so
would
anyone
else
like
to
go.
I
see
council
member
willie
with
a
hand
raised
and
again.
This
is
brief
reports
to
a
minute
or
less
on
council
member
activities
and
brief
announcements
since
the
last
time
that
we
met,
which
would
have
been
december,
7th,
welcome,
councilmember,
william.
J
A
Oh
council,
member
willie,
I
have
you
frozen
on
my
screen.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
that
issue.
So
I'm
just
gonna
reverse
engineer
that
and
assume
that
that
might
be
a
bandwidth
issue
on
your
end.
Hold
that
thought
if
you
can,
if
you
can
hear
this,
try
to
resolve
that.
Perhaps
it's
a
matter
of
logging
back
in,
but
let's
go
to
councilmember
way
at
this
point,
followed
by
vice
mayor
chao
and
then
council,
member
moore.
K
Thank
you,
mayor,
paul,
okay,
so,
on
the
the
december
8th,
we
I
think
a
couple
of
us
joined
the
grand
opening
of
the
duan
chin,
jin
taiwanese
noodle
place,
and
you
know
new
restaurants
coming
for
cupertino.
So
please
support
our
restaurants
and
we
have
a
lot
of
celebrations
for
our
non-profit
organizations,
because
we
thank
the
donors,
so
kubernetes
storage
society
museum
has
your
annual
holiday.
K
Thank
you
party
and
fremont
union
high
school
district
foundation
also
has
it
so
this
is
a
time
of
giving
thanks
and
the
community
library
foundation
also
did
a
thank
you
party.
So
it's
really.
We
have
great
great
many
volunteers.
This
is
a
good
time
to
pay
our
thanks
to
it,
and
I
also
attended
a
couple
of
housing
implementation
examples.
K
The
one
I
really
want
to
mention
is
the
innovative
ideas
and
best
practices
for
arena
implementation,
a
lot
of
good
examples
of
a
variety
of
housing
designs
that
were
presented,
so
that
was
very
enlightening
and
council
member
willie's
american
league
legions
wreath
across
america
again
of
heaven,
cemetery
honoring,
our
remembering
our
fallen
heroes
and
heroines,
and
it's
really
a
annual
highlight
that
we
really
like
to
do-
and
I
want
to
highlight
just
one
more
thing:
the
silicon
valley,
youth
climate
action
team
also
celebrate
their
achievements
and
thank
their
advisors
and
supporters.
K
A
J
Yeah,
hopefully
I
won't
duplicate,
but
I
do
want
to
say
how
important
you
know.
It
is
very
touching
the
veterans
that
there's
several
that
spoke
and
they
spoke
about
the
sacrifices
the
they
came
back,
but
a
lot
of
their
friends
did
not,
and
those
were
really
the
toughest
sacrifices
of
all
for
our
country.
J
J
Okay,
everyone,
you
know
just
take
a
time
as
you
can
and
remember
our
veterans
and
then
councilman
way
said.
The
youth
climate
was
very
important
that
the
youth
are
getting
engaged,
the
climate
change,
that's
going
on,
and
the
history
society
party
so
important
for
us
to
remember
our
heritage
where
we
came
from
as
a
community.
L
Hi,
so
on
the
I
missed
the
holiday
party
for
the
historic
society,
because
I
had
to
attend
the
county
committee
meeting
so
but
I
did
attend
the
library
foundation
holiday
party
and
they
have
many
new
board
members
and-
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
foundation
members
on
really
putting
all
to
raise
a
lot
of
funding
for
the
library
expansion
project
and
on
the
18th.
L
There
are
american
flags
not
only
in
the
main
area,
but
all
over
the
cemetery
to
look
at
the
different,
different,
the
history
of
people,
and
it's
just
I.
I
think
this
is
really.
There
are
so
much
stories
in
the
cemetery.
Maybe
we
should
encourage
our
young
kids
to
visit
not
only
on
during
during
the
holidays
and
even
in
the
main
halls.
There
are
a
lot
of
history
in
that
cemetery.
That's
yeah,.
A
M
On
december
13th,
I
attended
the
stevens
creek
corridor
steering
committee
and
we
discussed
funding
a
study
for
transit,
approved
improvements
along
stevens
creek
boulevard
to
dear
don
station
and
and
what
the
dear
non
station
to
the
airport
route
could
look
like
in
the
future,
and
this
will
be
coming
to
council
in
the
future,
and
I
also
attended
the
final
two
meetings
on
december
10th
and
december
17th
from
senator
cartesia's
office
regarding
the
housing,
and
we
did
have
to
see
a
presentation
from
dan
parolic
from
opticos
talking
about
the
different
housing
options
in
order
to
help
us
meet
our
arena
needs.
M
So
it's
always.
It
was
very
interesting
to
see
dan
again.
A
Much
kelson
moore,
we
are
now
on
to
item
number
five,
which
I
believe
is
our
city
manager's
update.
No,
actually,
no.
I
take
that
back.
Item
number.
Six
is
what
we're
on
now,
and
that
is
a
report
on
our
committee
assignments
and
delineating
that,
with
our
brief
announcements
from
item
five,
these
are
committee
assignments
that
we,
you
know
approve
at
the
end
of
the
year.
A
We
have
another
set
of
committee
assignments
in
fact
coming
up,
but
let's
start
with
council
member
moore,
who
has
the
hand
raised
any
committee
assignments
to
report
out
on
since
our
december
7th
meeting.
M
Right,
okay,
so,
on
december
9th,
as
a
member
of
the
public
mentioned,
I
chaired
the
vta
pac.
We
did
have
a
member
of
the
public
made
a
comment
which
is
now
being
handled
by
the
courts.
We
did
have
a
better
bus
stops
item
which
was
put
on
consent.
However,
I
suggested
some
of
our
bus
stops,
which
could
have
improvements,
especially
for
ada
accessibility
and
lastly,
we
had
a
very
interesting
discussion
about
cash,
only
patrons
how
they
can
more
easily
acquire
and
fund
their
clipper
cards
in
the
community.
On
december
10th
the
cupertino
lrc
met.
M
We
discussed
the
legislative
platform
for
next
year.
We
recommended
support
for
the
initiative
the
2021
0016
initiative,
which
is
similar
to
aca
7.,
see
I
have
one
more
on
december
13th,
the
audit
committee.
There
we
brought
up
the
municipal
code
requirements
for
monthly
financial
reporting
among
some
other
items.
It's
very
interesting.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah
so
on
december
8th,
we
had
our
monthly
silicon
valley,
clean
energy
meeting
and
it
goes
hand
in
hand
with
the
youth
climate
group
how
important
it
is
for
us
to
address
the
climate
change.
So
the
state
goal
is
to
have
100
clean
energy
by
2045,
but
silicon
valley,
clean
energy,
is
clearly
pushing
to
bring
that
in
much
sooner
and
in
a
variety
of
ways,
principally
trying
to
get
more
purchasing
of
clean
energy
as
opposed
to
the
fossil
fuel
power.
J
So
that
is
the
primary
task,
but
they're
also
working
on
grants
to
help
get
more
ev
chargers
in
multi-family
units
and
to
get
the
whole
building
electrification
moved
along
faster,
along
with
helping
cities
to
work
on
the
next
session
of
reach,
codes,
reach
code
2.0.
So
a
lot
of
work
and
doing
the
best
they
can.
L
On
the
10th
we
had
a
legislative
review
committee
meeting
and
the
committee
voted
to
oppose
on
state
initiative.
That's
called
the
taxpayer
protection
and
government
accountability
act.
That
would
add
more
restrictions
on
how
we
can
on
ballot
majors
for
tax,
and
then
the
committee
also
voted
to
support
a
local
land
user
zoning
constitution
amendment
so
that
the
state
cannot
take
away
local
control
on
zoning
issues
and
then
we
also
discussed
the
legislative
platform
that
will
be
on
the
council
agenda
january
on
the
13th
we
had
audited
community
meeting.
L
Finally,
we
reviewed
the
interactive
website
and
the
budgeting
class,
so
the
citizens
are
encouraged
to
visit
the
finance
website.
We
have
very
comprehensive
chart
and
that
can
help
inform
you
about
city
finance
and
on
the
15th
there
is
a
waste,
recycle
and
commission
meeting.
That's
a
the
county
commission
and
we
adopted
the
budget.
This
is
funded
by
the
fees
from
our
our
waste
collection
and
then
they
have
they
have.
They
found
different
kind
of
a
recycle
and
waste
reduction
programs
for
the
county.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Vice
mayor
chow
I'll
provide
an
update
at
this
point.
My
committee
activities
were
both
vta
related.
A
I
chaired
the
or
at
least
I
should
say
I
vice
chair
of
the
sstpl
committee
for
vta,
that's
safety,
security
and
transit
planning
and
operations,
and
so
we
did
have
a
good
discussion
with
regard
to
talking
about
what
we
can
be
doing
to
outreach
to
our
various
communities
in
terms
of
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
serving
particularly
on
our
bus
system,
the
underserved
and
socio-economically
underprivileged
populations,
and
we
also
did
have
a
vta
board
meeting
as
a
communicator
from
the
public
alluded
to
earlier
this
evening.
A
In
our
meeting,
there
was
an
unfortunate
comment
from
a
member
of
the
public
over
at
another
one
of
our
committee
meetings,
chaired
by
our
councilmember
moore
and
very,
very
appropriately,
councilmember
moore
made
a
comment
with
regard
to
some
very
ill-advised,
and
you
know
comments
that
could
only
be
construed
as
threatening
and
and
menacing,
especially
within
the
context
of
what's
happened
at
vta
earlier
this
year
with
the
shooting
at
the
rail
yard.
A
And
so
I
echo
those
sentiments,
you
know
it's
it's
interesting
that
we
had
our
sstpo
committee
meeting
after
this
talking
about
safety
and
security.
We
did
modify
some
of
our
meetings,
both
the
board
chair,
glenn
hendricks,
at
the
board
meeting,
and
I
modified
my
opening
comments
on
the
sstpo
committee
to
essentially
state
that
you
know
look.
A
We
have
to
have
commentary
that
is
directed
towards
the
item
and
also
is
not
threatening
and
harassing,
and
so
you
know
kudos
to
councilmember
moore
chair
more
for
the
pack
for
bringing
that
to
the
forefront
the
board
meeting
for
vta
to
close
out
the
year
went
well
as
well
as
you
can
imagine.
A
We
have
a
lot
of
various
items
that
we
need
to
be
dealing
with,
because
not
only
was
there
the
tragic
incident
that
occurred
in
may,
there
was
also
there
was
also
a
security
breach
in
which
you
know
part
of
the
breach
was
what
was
happening
earlier
in
this
year,
and
you
know,
prior
years,
in
terms
of
breaching
security,
for
agencies
and
essentially
holding
hostage
with
regard
to
you
know
asking
for
monetary
compensation
in
order
to
release
keys
to
let
people
have
their
data
back.
A
So
there
are
just
a
lot
of
year-end
issues
that
we
have
to
clean
up
in
vta.
This
was
a
special
meeting
and
we're
working
on
those,
and
I
think
that
the
agency
is
going
forward
at
a
good
spot,
as
it,
you
know,
puts
2021
behind
it
and
looks
forward
to
2022..
A
Right
now
we
have
and
with
gratitude
and
acting
city
manager,
who
is
also
our
assistant
city
manager,
diane
thompson
because,
as
everyone
knows,
on
december,
8th
greg
larson's
last
day
occurred
for
his
interim
stint
and-
and
so
we
now
find
ourselves
in
that
period
of
time
between
that
and
when
our
permanent
city
manager,
jim
troop,
starts
on
january,
3rd
and
so
diane.
Is
there
anything
for
the
city
manager
update
for
for
this
evening.
N
Yes,
good
evening
at
mayor,
paul
and
city
council,
I
do
have
a
covet
update
and
a
few
announcements
to
make
this
evening.
Now.
First
of
all,
the
covet
update
and
due
to
a
recent
increase
in
cases,
the
california
department
of
public
health
has
mandated
that
everyone
in
california
wear
a
mask
in
indoor
public
spaces
and
workplaces.
N
N
There
are
1377
cases
by
zip
code
and
1391
cases
by
city,
and
both
of
those
numbers
are
up
17
cases
for
the
last
two
weeks,
cupertino
continues
to
have
the
lowest
case
rate
per
100.
000
residents
in
the
county
in
terms
of
testing
for
covid,
the
county
of
santa
clara,
will
continue
testing
at
cupertino
senior
center.
That
will
return
on
monday
january
3rd,
from
9
30
to
4.
30
and
appointments
can
be
scheduled
at
www.scc.
A
Sorry
diane,
I
think
your
your
microphone
might
be
a
little
scratchy.
If
there's
anything,
perhaps
intruding
it,
you
might
want
to
move
it
out
of
the
way
or
something
is
this.
N
N
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
in
terms
of
the
next
item,
is
community
funding.
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
and
let
the
public
know
that
the
city
of
cupertino
community
funding,
grant
applications
will
be
available.
Beginning
january
1st
2022
this
year.
The
program
will
be
facilitated
through
the
city's
website
for
more
information
visit,
cupertino.org,
slash,
community
funding
or
email
community
funding
at
cupertino.org.
N
N
A
A
A
Okay,
very
good,
11
and
21,
and
so
let
me
ask
for
emotion,
man.
I
have
a
motion
for
consent,
calendar
items
8
through
10
12
through
15
17
through
20,
22
and
23
council
member
way
so
moved.
Would
anyone
like
to
second
councilmember
boy's
motion.
A
O
Not
this
specifically,
I
want
to
ask
about
the
canyon
crossing
issue
that
was,
I
think,
might
have
been
raised
earlier
today.
I
I
came
in
late
sorry.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
andrew.
Let
me
just
briefly
notify
you
that
that
was
actually
on
our
postponements
and
so
we'll
be
postponing
that
item
to
to
a
future
meeting
date
likely
in
january.
A
You're
welcome,
okay,
so
let
us
go
back
to
council
and
so
there's
a
motion
on
the
table.
I
don't
see
further
hands
raised,
madam
city
clerk.
Would
you
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote.
A
A
Thank
you,
madam
city
clerk.
We
now
have
item
11,
followed
by
item
16,
followed
by
item
21,
all
on
consent,
calendar,
and
so
let
me
go
to
the
respective
council
members
that
hold
these
items.
Councilmember
moore.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
item
number
11
and
the
reason
you're
requesting
that
it
be
pulled.
M
M
This
is
a
drone
with
thermal
imaging
capabilities,
and
I've
asked
for
our
cio
to
provide
our
policy
regarding
this
and
whether
or
not
its
use
will
be
construed
as
an
illegal
search
and
the
the
concern
is
referencing.
The
united
states
versus
kylo,
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
some
information
from
the
city
attorney
about
that,
because
this
would
be
something
the
city
staff
is
in
possession
of
as
opposed
to
our
our
sheriffs
or
the
fire
department.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
councilmember
moore.
To
encapsulate
what
I
believe
you
have
described.
The
city
has
purchased
the
thermal
imaging
drone
and
so
you're
asking
for
clarification
on
on
certain
points.
Perhaps,
regarding
you
know,
privacy
and
search
from
director
mitchell
as
well
as
perhaps
city
attorney
jensen.
Welcome
welcome
bill.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
councilmember
moore's
comment.
P
Sure,
I'd
be
glad
to
so
mayor,
paul
and
councilmember
moore
great
question:
give
you
a
little
bit
of
information
on
this,
so
the
skydio
drone
we
purchased
an
enterprise
class
drone,
and
what
this
drone
allows
us
to
do
is
multiple
things
within
the
city,
so
the
city
is
partnered
with
different
divisions
within
the
city,
for
example,
the
main
one
we're
looking
at
and
we're
going
to
pilot
some
operations
with
emergency
management,
so,
in
the
event
of
a
catastrophe
like
an
earthquake,
we'd
be
able
to
deploy
the
drone
with
a
pre-programmed
flight
path
to
be
able
to
search
an
area
and
look
for
hot
spots,
as
well
as
damage
to
be
able
to
get
good
situational
awareness
without
endangering
staff
or
the
public
that
may
be
involved
in
the
operation
itself.
P
Additionally,
with
the
thermal-
because
I
know
thermal
is
the
concern
here,
mapping
does
it
points
out
hot
spots
within
the
city,
so
as
we're
moving
forward
with
our
climate
action
plan,
we
want
to
understand
what
the
thermal
footprint
of
our
city
is.
This
really
gives
us
that
snapshot
of
before
and
after
I
know
in
the
past,
you've
asked
about
pervious
and
impervious
surfaces.
P
P
So
by
doing
heat
mapping
of
a
facility,
you
can
actually
see
where
you're
doing
energy
loss,
because
you
can
see
you
know
the
cracks
of
the
roof
and
those
kind
of
things
where
you're
losing
energy.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
for,
but
this
is
just
us
moving
into
the
drone
world.
There's
a
lot
of
different
non-security
applications
that
we
want
to
explore.
We
will
not
be
exploring
any
security
applications.
I
will
let
you
know
that
all
staff
that
will
be
utilizing
the
drone
are
faa
certified.
We
currently
have
two
on
staff.
P
Today
we
are
drafting
a
policy
with
tom
thomas
chen's
group
that
we
will
be
sending
to
chris
for
a
review
on
the
drone
operations
before
we
actually
deploy
for
these
type
operations.
A
Yeah
great
director
mitchell,
you
know
this
is
interesting.
This
actually
takes
me
all
the
way
back
to
law
school
about
20
years
ago,
and
if
I'm
remembering
correctly,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
the
reference
that
councilmember
moore
made.
But
the
concern
back
then
was
that,
of
course,
there
was
heat,
signature
and
heat
mapping.
Technology
back
then,
and
I
think
what
ended
up
happening
under
the
unreasonable
search
and
seizure.
A
You
know
argument
that
was
made
in
the
case
was
that
there
was
some
kind
of
marijuana
grow
house
and
basically
the
heat
signature
indicated
that
there
was
a
lot
of
you
know,
heat
for
the
heat
lamps
and
you
know
in
the
building
that
you
wouldn't
otherwise
be
able
to
visualize,
and
so
that
formed
the
foundation
of
at
least
one
strand
of
supreme
court
jurisprudence
with
regard
to
reasonable
search
and
seizure.
A
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
really
get
a
satisfactory
answer
with
regard
to
policy
and
usage,
I'm
I'm
hearing
from
what
you're
saying
that
we
do
have
a
couple
of
faa
certified.
You
know
drone
pilots
on
our
staff,
but
perhaps
that's
a
question
for
our
city
attorney
to
speak.
To
and
if
there's
follow-up
needed,
I,
I
suppose,
then
that's
good
information
to
have
at
this
point
before
we
turn
to
chris.
Let's
go
ahead
and
go
back
to
council
member
moore
who
has
her
hand
raised.
M
Yeah,
thank
you,
mayor
paul
and
yes,
that
that
is
the.
That
is
the
same
case
that
you're
mentioning
it's
my
preference,
my
firm
preference
that
this
drones
remain
grounded
until
we
actually
have
policy
in
place,
and
I
am
curious
if
this
is
a
policy
that
needs
to
come
to
city
council.
M
It
is
also
my
preference
that
this
would
be
something
that
either
the
fire
department
or
our
sheriff's
department
would
be
having
control
of,
because
it's
one
thing
to
have
a
device
which
you're
using
for
the
photography
it's
another
when
you're
able
to
see
through
walls
and
see
people,
and
if
you,
if
you
look
up
for
the
the
skydio
x2e
starter
kit,
the
thermal
imaging
one.
M
A
Okay,
a
fair
question:
fair
point:
city
attorney
jensen:
did
you
want
to
speak
to
any
of
this.
Q
You
know
our
our
office
will
be
reviewing
the
policy
before
you
know.
The
drone
is
operational
and
you
know
will
clearly
outline
the
the
legal
use
cases
which
there
certainly
are
many
government
jurisdictions
who
use
drones
versus
use
cases
that
that
may
not
be
legal,
and
you
know
our
goal
is
obviously
to
ensure
that
the
city's
uses
will
be
legal
and
consistent
with
policy
direction.
A
Okay,
great
well,
thank
you
very
much
city
attorney
jensen,
seeing
as
to
how
this
particular
item
is
not
agendized
and
it's
more
financially
related.
I
think
we
can
just
say
that
staff
is
taking
this
under
advisement
and
we'll
be
following
up
on
this
comment:
it's
not
agendized,
of
course,
but
you
know
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
an
update
in
the
future.
As
to
you
know,
potential
follow-up
here.
A
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
we're
within
our
purview
to
give
give
definitive
direction
on
this.
But
can
we
say
that
staff
is
taking
these
comments
on
their
advisement
at
this
point?
Yes,
absolutely
near
paul,
okay,
excellent!
Thank
you
very
much
acting
city
manager,
thompson,
and
so
let
us
go
ahead.
May
I
have
an
a
motion
for
item
11
as
agendized
in
the
recommended
action.
A
A
Let
me
read
it:
it's
accounts
payable
for
the
period
ending
november
1st
councilmember
way.
A
I
am
asking
for
the
recommended
action,
which
is
to
adopt
resolution
number
21-121,
accepting
accounts
payable
for
the
period
ending
november,
1st
2021.
so
moved
okay,
and
is
there
a
second
for
this
motion?
A
I
don't
see
a
second,
so
so
let
me,
let
me
open
this
back
up
to
counsel
for
further
discussion.
Do
we
want
to
bring
this
back
to
a
future
council
meeting
after
follow-up
has
been
concluded?
Let's
start
with
council
member
moore
and
then
go
to
council
member
way
with
a
hand
raised.
M
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
paul.
I
suppose
my
concern
is
the
one
item
on
on
the
accounts
payable
for
the
payment
register,
which
is
the
the
drone,
and
you
know.
I
feel
as
though
that
the
item
was
that
I've
that
I've
seen
it
in
some
of
the
documentation.
M
My
concern
is
that
whether
or
not
it
could
be
construed
that
we
are
approving
the
payment
register
for
this
for
this
drone
that
we're
also
approving
its
purchase
as
well
and
and
when
it
comes
to
that,
then
then
I'm
I'm
stuck
because
I
want
to
know
more
about
it
and
and
how
it's
going
to
be
used,
how
to
be
controlled,
who
has
access
to
it.
While
we
have
faa
pilots
on
staff
now
that
doesn't
mean
we
necessarily
will
have
that
in
the
future.
Are
we
saying
that
our
staffing
needs
to
include
drone
pilots?
M
I
think
this
kind
of
opens
a
a
can
of
worms
so
and
I'm
not
really
sure
how
to
how
to
resolve
it.
Well,.
A
Let
me
let
me
refer
this
to
staff.
Can
we
accept
the
accounts
payable
with
the
exception
of
this
particular
item?
Would
that
work
administratively
and
I'll
wait
for
a
hand
to
be
raised
from
staff
to
answer
that
and
just
to
you
know,
notify
and
inform
members
of
the
public.
These
are
actually
expenditures
that
have
been
made.
We're
being
asked
to
accept
the
accounts
payable
after
the
fact
here
and
it's
this
is
for
the
period
ending
november,
1st
2021.,
and
so
would
anyone
from
finance
I
see.
A
Zach
korach
is
on
finance
manager
or
our
city
manager
like
to
speak
to
this
zach.
R
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
Yes,
that
would
be
acceptable
administratively
to
accept
and
adopt
a
resolution
approving
all
payments
on
that
specific
payment
register.
A
That
is
wonderful,
zach,
and
thank
you
for
that
language.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
ask
let
me
go
ahead
and
move
that
yeah,
just
as
zach
articulated
it
as
the
motion,
so
we
would
be
accepting
the
accounts
payable
period
ending
november
1st
2021,
with
the
exception
of
that
one
item
that
was
described
by
mr
korach
in
in
his
language
just
a
moment
ago.
So
I
see
council
member
way
with
a
hand
raised
councilmember
way.
Would
you
like
to
second
that
motion,
or
do
you
want
to?
I.
K
K
M
I
want
a
second
your
motion,
mayor,
paul.
A
Okay,
okay,
thank
you
very
much,
and
so
we
have
council.
Member
boy,
sorry,
oh
I
I
got
a.
A
Okay,
very
good,
any
further
discussion
requested
at
this
point.
Okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
conduct
a
roll
call
vote.
Madam
city
clerk.
A
A
J
Yeah
that
that's
what
my
request
was
about
so
mayor,
paul,
you've
done
a
great
job
of
assigning
all
the
committee
assignments.
The
the
question
I
would
just
ask
is
that
someone
moore
and
me
on
the
legislative
review
committee.
J
Yes,
I
see
how
well
vice
mayor
chao
does
on
these
state
bills
and
so
with
two
of
us
being
new
on
this
one.
I
think
oh
no
kitty
was
on
it
last
year,
and
so
that
was
kind
of
my
question.
You
know
that
vice
mayor
chow,
being
so
much
more
up
to
speed
on
the
state
bills
right.
A
So
so
councilman
willie.
Let
me
speak
to
that.
Since
you
know
I
was
essentially
giving
out
the
proposed
assignments.
You
know
it
was.
It
was
a
balance
between
trying
to
get
people
experience
and
also
trying
to
provide
the
assignments.
That
would
give
some
regional
experience,
and
so,
for
instance,
you
have
the
clean
energy
authority
experience
and
vice
mayor
chow,
I
I
propose
to
put
on
the
library
jpa,
even
though
the
library
is
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
A
You
know
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
have
an
even
balance
as
well,
and
so,
with
regard
to
the
the
committee
assignments,
we
basically
have
22
assignments
to
divvy
out
between
five
people,
and
so
that
leaves
everyone
with
four
assignments,
except
two
of
us
have
five,
and
so
the
two
that
would
end
up
with
five
are
myself
as
well
as
vice
mayor
chow,
and
so
you
know
given
that,
and
I
totally
agree
with
you.
I
thought
that
the
legislative
review
committee
did
a
fantastic
job.
A
A
You
know
on
that
scale
of
that
you
know
level
of
engagement,
and
so
you
know
I
realized
that
it
is
a
new
assignment
for
yourself,
but
I
did
you
know,
try
to
make
sure
that
a
institutional
knowledge
you
know
person
so
to
speak-
was
represented
there
with
councilmember
morris
who,
as
you
correctly
point
out
a
moment
ago,
and
so
you
know
I-
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
get
that
kind
of
additional
institutional
knowledge
within
our
council.
But
of
course,
I'm
open
discussion.
J
I
I
had
overlooked
that
councilman
moore
was
on
it
last
year,
so
I
was
kind
of
thinking.
It
was
two
new
ones,
and
so
then
the
continuity
and-
and
so
thank
you
for
reminding
us.
M
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
M
So
I
am
looking
at
what
you
have
selected
for
the
santa
clara
county
cities,
association,
legislative
committee
and
that's
mayor,
paul
and
vice
mayor,
ciao
and,
and
it
it
kind
of
makes
me
want
to
see
the
the
vice
mayor
also
on
the
legislative
review
committee,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
she
will
already
have
seen
a
lot
of
the
new
legislation
and
be
up
to
speed
on
that
to
you
know,
speak
at
the
at
the
legislative
committee
she's
there
as
an
alternate,
but
I
I
could
see
it
being
very
helpful
if,
if
that
is,
if
there's
some
way
to
have
that
considered,
okay.
A
Well:
okay:
well,
let's
go
to
vice
mayor
ciao
before
I
make
a
proposal
vice
mayor,
ciao,.
L
L
That
one
has
doesn't
really
have
meetings.
Maybe
as
like
one
meeting,
I
don't
even
remember
so,
he
could
switch
with
that
if
he
would
like
to
yeah,
but
it
depends
on.
If
councilman
really
is
interested
in
learning
more
about
state
bills,
it
does
so.
A
What
I'm
distributing
vice
mayor
ciao
is
a
willingness
to
take
this
on
if
council
member
wooly
would
be
willing
to
take
on
the
county
of
santa
clara
housing
and
community
development
advisory
committee,
and
I
will
say
that
you
know
this
has
been
impacted
by
kovid,
but
with
regard
to
what
it
does
it's
very
similar
to
what
our
housing
commission
does
in
terms
of
giving
out
cdbg
funds,
and
so
that's
on
the
county
level.
However,
so
so
it
is
of
substance,
it
is
important
council,
member
willie.
A
Would
you
be
willing
to
trade
off
your
proposed
committee
assignment
for
the
legislative
review
committee
for
the
county
of
santa
clara
housing
and
community
development
advisory
committee.
J
Yeah
that
that
would
yeah
that
would
be
a
positive.
A
Okay,
then,
I
would
so
move
that
we
passed
the
council
committee
assignments
as
proposed
with
the
one
change
of
assigning
to
council
member
willie,
the
primary
for
the
county
of
santa
clara
housing
and
community
development
advisory
committee
and
to
assign
to
vice
mayor
chao,
one
of
the
primaries
for
the
legislative
review
committee
instead
of
council
member
willie.
A
May
I
have
a
second
for
that
motion
council
member
moore,
a
second
okay,
very
good.
I
don't
see
members
of
the
public
with
hands
raised
on
this
item
number
16
and
so
I'll.
Take
it
back
to
the
city
council.
I
don't
see
further
hands
raised
there
either.
Madam
city
clerk,
would
you
please
conduct
the
roll
call
vote.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
city
clerk.
We
are
on
to
item
number
21.
item
number
21
was
pulled
by
councilmember
moore.
It
is
consideration
of
accepting
a
1.9
plus
million
dollar
grant
funding
from
the
santa
clara
county,
2016
measure
b,
program
for
fiscal
22-23
and
the
grant
allocation
is
for
the
junipero
serra
trail
east
segment,
council.
Member
moore,
would
you
like
to
kick
us
off
on
this
item,
since
you
were
the
one
who
pulled
it
from
the
set.
M
Sure,
thank
you
mayor
paul,
and
my
concern
is
specifically
with
the
name
and
that
this
name,
I
keep
seeing
it
being
repeated,
and
my
question
is:
do
both
the
city
and
apple
want
to
continue
to
honor
innoporous
sarah,
in
light
of
the
controversial
treatment
of
the
native
californians,
and
not
seeing
anyone
wanting
to
jump
in
and
speak
about
that,
I
would
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
the
funding
for
this
trail
along
the
I-280
and
send
the
project
naming
to
the
bikepad
commission
for
study
and
review
and
alternate
naming
suggestions
would
return
to
council
and
in
the
interim
the
trail
will
be
called
the
ia
280
trail
until
a
different
name
is
selected.
A
Q
So
the
specific
topic
of
naming
the
trail
is
not
on
the
agenda.
I
I
I
think,
staff
if
council
were
interested
in
approving
the
the
acceptance
of
the
grant
funding
and
I
would
defer
to
the
acting
city
manager
as
to
whether
she
would
take
that
as
as
direction
from
staff
to
to
pursue
alternative
names
through
the
trail.
A
How
about
how
about
we
modify
the
motion
to
make
it
such
that
it
becomes
palatable
within
the
confines
of
the
description
description
of
the
item,
so
that
we
asked
madame
acting
city
manager
to
go
back
and
present
us
in
a
future
meeting.
Our
options,
for
you
know
considering
this
topic,
is
that
workable,
mr
city
attorney.
A
Okay,
if
that's
the
case
and
diane,
did
you
want
to
say
something
before
I
second,
this
possibly
modified
motion,
because
I
need
to
go
back
to
council
member
more
to
see
if
that
modification
would
be
acceptable
to
her.
A
A
Okay,
wonderful,
and
so
it
sounds
to
me,
like
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table
with
regard
to
the
recommended
action
here,
although
we
do
want
to
refer
this
to
the
bike
and
pet
commission
as
well
as
revisit
the
possibility
in
a
future
council
meeting
from
an
update,
I
presume,
from
our
city
manager
as
to
what
our
potential
courses
of
action
are.
A
With
regard
to
visiting
the
naming
of
this
particular
item,
and
so
in
terms
of
this
particular
trail
I
should
say,
and
so
mr
city
attorney,
there
was
a
component
of
councilman
reports
motion
that
had
to
do
with
call
what
we
call
it
in
the
meantime.
A
Q
So
I
believe
it
would
be
within
the
city
manager's
discretion
to
to
use
the
alternative
nomenclature
until
we
return
to
council,
because.
P
D
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
city
attorney.
It
sounds
like
good
direction
and
we
have
a
motion.
I
second
it
to
clarify
that
on
the
table.
I
don't
see
members
of
the
public
with
hands
raised
for
comments
on
this
item
number
21..
I
don't
see
further
hands
raised
from
city
council,
and
so,
madam
city
clerk,
would
you
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote.
L
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk,
okay,
and
and
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
cooperation
and
keeping
this
a
timely,
a
timely
agenda.
You
know
at
this
point
I
also
wanted
to
thank
acting
city
manager,
diane
thompson
for
her
willingness.
Nan
actually
had
a
year
in
vacation
plans
right
now,
and
so
you
know
we
pulled
her
away
from
that
and
thank
you
for
staffing
this
december
21st
meeting.
A
We
do
have
a
number
of
items
that
are
very
important
to
clear
up
before
the
end
of
the
year,
and
so
we
are
able
to
do
this
efficiently.
It
looks
like
thus
far
item
25,
which
we
placed
in
front
of
item
24
under
ordinances
and
action
items
per
that
motion,
or
I
should
say
under
postponements
and
orders
of
the
day
for
that
motion
is
consideration
of
an
interim
ordinance
to
implement
new
state
legislation
which
is
senate
bill
9..
We
will
hear
the
staff
presentation
first
then
take
public
comments.
A
Then
staff
will
have
an
opportunity
to
address
questions
raised
by
members
of
the
public
and
after
that,
council
will
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
staff
questions.
Following
that,
we
will
entertain
a
motion
for
discussion
purposes
for
a
vote.
Does
anyone
need
me
to
repeat
that
procedure?
It's
the
procedure
that
we've
naturally
fallen
into
over
the
course
of
the
last
several
meetings,
and
what
I've
noticed
is
that
it
really
does
provide
a
good
opportunity
for
these
issues
to
crystallize
and
also
hear
what
our
public
comment
is.
A
Prior
to
us
asking
our
clarifying
questions,
and
so
the
other
aspect
I
would
say
is
that
keep
those
questions
to
staff
in
the
presentation
as
questions
before
having
comments
and
deliberation,
because
comments
and
deliberation
are
appropriately
put
into
the
motions
and
so
we'll
bring
emotion
on
the
table,
we'll
second
it
and
then
we
can
have
the
comments
and
deliberations
and
well,
I
like
us
in
this
upcoming
year
in
terms
of
you,
know
procedural
expectations
to
keep
that
within.
A
You
know
so-called
motion
practice
for
for
council,
essentially
we're
closing
off
the
questions,
to
counsel
to
I'm
sorry
to
staff
at
that
point
and
we're
essentially
engaged
in
deliberation,
and
so,
if
you
have
questions
of
staff,
you
would
ask
it
before
we
we
put
the
motion
on
the
table.
A
We
don't
have
a
flow
chart
that
we
provide
to
the
public
with
regard
to
ordinances
and
action
items,
but
we
do
for
hearings
which
I'll
go
over
after
this
item
when
we
get
to
the
next
item-
and
so
I
won't
put
this
in
a
motion
as
as
as
the
effective
chair
of
this
meeting,
I'm
just
notifying
with
regard
to
you
know
the
order.
A
So
thanks
again
for
that
cooperation
here,
let's
go
ahead
and
give
it
over
to
acting
city
manager
thompson
to
introduce
the
person
from
staff
that
is
giving
the
presentation
for
item
number
25.
S
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
apologize
if
let
me
get
things
set
up
here,
we're
having
a
little
bit
of
a
difficulty.
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
for
a
quick
five-minute
break
for
us
to
get
set
up.
Oh
perfectly,
fine!
Let's
do
that.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
So
it's
53
right
now
we'll
reconvene
at
eight
o'clock
with
this
meeting.
Okay,
we'll.
A
A
S
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you,
council
members
and
vice
mayor.
I
apologize
for
the
delay.
We
had
a
presentation
ready
now
pew
gauche,
our
planning
manager
has
a
presentation,
for
you
will
also
be
available
for
any
questions
so
without
further
ado
I'll.
Just
let
you
take
it
over
from
now
we
have
a
few
slides.
T
Hi
good
evening,
council,
I
hope
you
can
hear
me.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
Thank
you
perfect.
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
here
and
start
the
presentation
all
right,
so
just
a
brief
introduction
to
what
sb9
is
and
what
it
does
and
what
we
are
bound
by
state
law
to
do.
T
Sb9
essentially
goes
ahead
and
allows
the
ministerial
approval
of
either
a
duplex,
whether
that's
attached
or
detached
on
every
single
family's
own
property
in
cuputino,
and
it
also
allows
the
subdivision,
which
is
called
an
urban
lot
split
of
an
existing
single-family
residential
property
in
cupertino,
and
anybody
could
put
two
duplexes
on
each
of
those
lots
rather
a
duplex
on
each
of
those
lots.
T
In
general,
there
are
certain
criteria
under
sb9,
which
is
basically
it
cross-references
certain
sp,
35
criteria
that
it
applies
to
these
properties.
Essentially,
properties
cannot
be
prime
farmland,
they
cannot
be
on
wetlands.
They
can't
be
in
a
state
designated
high
fire,
very
high
fire
severity
zone,
but
that
is
subject
to
limitations
or
that
it
cannot
be
on
delineated.
T
There
are
also
additional
criteria
for
both
types
of
sb9
projects,
which
is
either
the
duplex
projects
or
the
lots
split.
It
cannot
result
in
the
demolition
of
bmr
or
rent
controlled
units.
It
can't
be
on
property
occupied
by
tenants
in
the
past
three
years.
T
It
cannot
have
been
in
the
market
on
property
that
has
been
withdrawn
from
the
rental
market
under
the
ellis
act,
the
past
15
years,
and
it
cannot
be
on
any
property
located
in
historic
district
or
state
historic
resources,
inventory
site
or
within
a
county
or
local
landmark
or
historic
property
or
district.
So
there
are
certain
limitations
on
which
property
can
apply
for
sp9
projects.
T
With
regard
to
urban
lot,
splits
there's
additional
criteria.
On
top
of
that
it
cannot.
You
cannot
have
a
lot
split
on
a
property
on
a
parcel
that
has
been
created
already
through
the
use
of
sp9.
T
You
can't
have
the
owner
of
the
parcel
that
is
being
subdivided
acting
in
concert
with
any
additional
owner
that
has
previously
subdivided
an
adjacent
parcel
using
an
urban
lot's
foot,
lots
created
must
be
limited
to
residential
uses,
and
applicants
must
sign
an
affidavit
stating
that
they
intend
to
occupy
one
of
the
units
on
the
property
as
the
principal
residence
for
a
minimum
of
three
years
after
any
lots
split.
So
there
are
certain
limitations
on
irman
lot
split.
In
addition,
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
proposed
regulations.
T
The
first
set
of
regulations
is
for
the
development
of
up
to
two
units
on
a
prop
on
a
property.
State
law
allows
us
to
allow
or
establish
objective
zoning
and
design
review
standards,
provided
they
don't
conflict
with
the
following,
which
is
you
have
to
have
at
least
800
square
foot
units
you
have
to
allow
minimum
four
foot
side
and
rear
setbacks.
T
If
and
no
more
than
25
percent
of
the
exist,
exterior
walls
of
an
existing
unit
may
be
impacted
because
you're
actually
adding
a
duplex
onto
the
property.
So
those
are
the
regulations
for
development
developing
up
to
two
lots.
That's
also
under
state
law.
T
Additionally,
for
the
minister
of
approval
of
lot
splits,
the
city
can
impose
objective
subdivision
standards
as
long
as
the
new
lots
are
no
more
than
in
a
50
to
60
split
of
the
original
lot.
No
new
lot
can
be
less
than
1200
square
feet
and,
additionally,
the
city
cannot
require
conditions
of
approval
of
the
lot
split
of
any
offsite
improvements
or
the
correction
of
any
existing
non-conforming
conditions.
T
With
regard
to
the
local
regulations
that
are
being
proposed
right
now,
I
did
want
to
make
one
overarching
statement.
The
way
that
the
local
regulations
have
been
developed
or
designed
is
to
allow
at
least
what
is
currently
allowed
under
local
regulations
for
the
development
on
those
properties.
So,
for
example,
if
we
currently
allow
45
far
on
properties,
you
know,
as
long
as
you
meet
certain
requirements
of
our
proposed
regulations,
you
can
get
up
to
45
far
on
those
properties.
So
we're
not
trying
to
be
any
more.
T
T
That's
the
chapter
number
we're
basically
saying
that
a
lot
parcel
map
application
is
required
that
parcel
map
application
will
be
ministerially
processed.
There
will
be
no
public
hearings
required.
That
is
a
requirement
of
state
law.
The
decision
of
staff
would
be
final
on
those
lot
splits.
There
are
some
regulations
around
around
over
grading.
T
So,
essentially,
you
can't
grade
or
pad
up
your
building
by
or
your
lot
by
more
than
six
inches
in
order
to
make
sure
that
you're
not
like
at
a
much
higher
grade
than
your
adjacent
neighbors.
Once
you
subdivide,
you
must
comply
with
the
objective
standards
of
the
municipal
code.
Any
other
objective
standards
of
music
that
we
already
have
adopted
you'll
also
have
to
comply
with
the
objective
standards
of
the
government
code
section
for
sb9
and
any
new
zoning
standards
in
the
zoning
code
with
regard
to
subdivision
or
with
development
of
those
properties.
T
Another
section
that
we've
incorporated
into
this
section
is
the
that
this
section
would
be,
in
effect
only
until
such
time
as
this
a
government
code
section
is
either
repealed
or
superseded.
If
they,
if
that
happens,
then
that
section
goes.
This
section
goes
away
of
the
of
the
municipal
code.
Oops
pardon
me.
T
Moving
on
these,
the
presentation
presents
these
regulations
kind
of
chronologically,
as
they
appear
in
the
municipal
code,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
set
that
stage.
The
next
set
of
changes
are
in
chapter
1908
in
section
30,
which
is
definitions.
Essentially,
we've
added
a
few
definitions
for
bay
windows.
T
Gable
ends,
which
are
essentially
the
triangular
shape
that
you
see
when
a
roof
is
proposed,
that
is
triangular
in
shape.
Essentially,
pie
shaped
lots
and
what
is
substantially
enclosed.
Additionally,
we've
also
amended
two
definitions
for
duplexes
to
include
both
attached
and
detached
units,
so
they
weren't
specifically
referenced
in
our
definitions
and
floor
area.
We've
updated
our
basements
definition
and
we've
also
included
the
basements
in
the
far
for
sb9
projects
and
units.
T
We've
also
made
some
amendments
to
the
administration
chapter
1912.,
we've
essentially
added
a
new
miscellaneous
ministerial
permit
for
ministerial
single
family
or
duplex
developments.
We've
kind
of
made
some
amendments
to
disallow
extensions,
because
these
are
ministerial
projects.
There's
no
reason
for
these
projects
to
hang
around
for
noticing,
we've
added
some
adjacent
noticing
requirements
for
adjacent
site
noticing
about
14
days
prior
to
any
action
that
the
city
takes
on
these
applications.
T
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
no
other
city,
as
far
as
I
know
in
santa
clara
county,
has
adopted
any
such
noticing
requirements
with
regard
to
appeals.
They
are
not
allowed
due
to
the
limitations
of
state
law
and
public
hearings,
and
so
that
is
not
proposed
at
this
time.
With
these
proposed
interim
regulations
moving
on
in
administration
in
section
40,
we've
clarified
made
some
additional.
Actually,
this
is
in
chapter
19,
28
40..
T
T
People
that
propose
single
story,
homes
just
come
in
for
a
building
permit
and
that's
how
that
process
works,
and
we
just
clarified
that
for
purposes
of
this
amendment
we
have
added
the
new
miscellaneous
ministerial
permit
references
to
that
in
this
particular
section
as
well,
and
it
is
required
for
one
or
two
story:
duplicates
developments
or
new
one-story
or
two-story
homes
or
second-story
editions
pursuant
to
sb9
standards.
T
So
if
somebody
says
that
they
wish
to
do
any
of
these
things,
but
they
want
to
apply
under
sb9,
then
they
have
to
get
this
new
miscellaneous
ministerial
permit.
In
order
to
do
that,
moving
on
in
administration,
we've
kind
of
clarified
what
the
minimum
lot
area
is
for
sb9
projects,
which
is
between
40
to
60
split
of
the
original
lot
as
long
as
you're,
not
less
than
1200
square
feet.
This
is
essentially
codifying
what
the
state
law
requires.
T
T
We
are
requiring
two
lots
with
street
finance
if
the
lots
are
less
than
60
feet,
whether
they're,
cul-de-sac
or
interior
lots
one
street
one
lot
would
have
street
frontage,
the
other
one
would
have
to
be
a
flag
lot,
and
this
is
really
dependent
on
how
we
wish
to
see
development
occur
on
those
properties
and
what
we
see
from
the
street
front,
which
is
why
we
kind
of
picked
this
break
at
the
60
feet.
Mark
existing
flag
lots
would
generate
two
flag:
lots.
T
Two
new
flag,
lots
and
corner
properties
would
have
to
be
subdivided
along
the
street
side
because
the
street
side
property
line,
as
you
can
see,
from
this
image
on
the
far
bottom
right.
That
is
the
longer
property
line
on
corner
loss
generally,
and
so
it
makes
more
sense
to
subdivide
along
that
property
line
than
along.
What
is
the
existing
front,
because
that
kind
of
creates
a
very
wonky
situation.
T
We've
added
a
requirement
that
50
of
the
front
yard
must
be
landscaped
on
projects
that
are
pursuant
to
sb9.
We
also
have
requirements
with
regard
to
lots
that
have
a
slope
that
is
greater
than
20
percent,
but
our
zoned
r1,
we've
essentially
kind
of
adopted
substandards
akin
to
rhs,
which
basically
says
that
you
can't
have
more
than
2500
cubic
yards
grading
and
then
flat
yard
cannot
be
more
than
2500
square
feet
for
lots
that
are
greater
than
equal
to
30
percent.
T
T
There
are
certain
on-site
improvements
that
are
required:
you're
required
to
provide
a
four
and
a
half
foot,
a
wide
pathway
and
a
four
and
a
half
foot
wide
planting
strip,
curb
gutter
and
curb
cut
and
ac
pavement.
These
are
basically
required
when
you
develop
property,
but
they're
not
required
where
the
semi-rural
designation
applies.
That's
already
adopted
by
council
and
council
considers
those
applications
on
a
fairly
regular
basis
applied
for
by
neighborhoods,
with
regard
to
driveway,
curb
cut
standards
for
new
lots
that
are
less
than
or
equal
to.
T
35
feet
no
more
than
a
one
car
curb
cut
would
be
allowed,
which
is
about
12
12
feet
wide
and
as
long
as
you
have
a
minimum
of
22
feet
between
the
two
one,
car
car
cuts
proposed.
That's
to
allow
at
least
a
single
car
to
be
parked
on
the
street
else.
You
have
to
share
a
driveway
for
pie,
shaped
lots
where
the
existing
lot
is
greater
than
70
feet.
You
can
provide
two
car
curb
cuts,
but
again
you
have
to
provide
that
22
feet
between
the
two
curb
cuts.
T
If
you
provide
a
two
car
credit
card,
if
you
cannot
provide
that,
then
you
have
to
provide
at
least
a
one
that
22
feet
so
that,
but
then
you
only
get
a
one
car
curb
cut.
You
at
least
have
to
provide
that
22
foot
between
the
curb
cuts
for
an
existing
lot
that
is
less
than
or
equal
to
70
feet.
There
would
be
a
shared
driveway.
T
These
standards
kind
of
are
for
that.
With
regard
to
the
flag
lot
access
area
we're
basically
requiring
those
to
be
between
20
to
25
feet
wide.
There
has
to
be
a
minimum,
16
foot,
dry,
vial
and
a
minimum
of
two
feet:
a
landscape
planter
on
either
side
of
that
driveway
aisle.
T
This
is
kind
of
pulled
from
our
existing
standards
in
our
parking
ordinance
shared
driveways,
not
not
on
that
flag,
lot
access
area
where
we
would
require
50
of
the
width
of
those
that
to
be
on
each
of
the
properties
that
are
sharing
that
driveway
and
you
would.
You
can
only
have
a
maximum
of
an
18-foot
curb
cut.
T
T
Moving
on
to
how
one
could
develop
two
units
on
a
property,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that,
in
parentheses,
I've
tried
to
identify
what
is
required
by
state
law
and
what
is
very
similar
to
our
existing
standards
so
that
it's
helpful
for
people
to
understand
that
we're
adding
a
new
new
section
in
chapter
1928
as
an
interim
requirement
for
the
two-unit
development.
T
It
allows
us
to
require
a
ministerial
permit
and
charge
a
processing
fee.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
at
this
time
we
are
not
proposing
a
processing
fee,
but
we
will
try
to
do
that
in
early
2022,
so
we
can
recoup
our
costs
of
reviewing
such
permits.
T
Essentially,
at
the
base
of
it,
any
property
would
be
allowed
800
square
foot
per
unit
for
duplexes
that's
period,
that's
required
under
state
law.
However,
we
we
do
say
that
duplex
units
must
be
within
200
square
feet
of
each
other.
T
At
the
end
of
the
day,
duplexes
are
meant
to
be
comparable
units,
not
necessarily
one
unit
very
large,
much
larger
than
the
other,
but
as
an
incentive,
you
can
get
your
far
to
be
up
to
45
percent
of
the
net
lot
area,
which
is
similar
to
our
existing
standards
as
long
as
it
meets
all
other
objective
standards
that
we've
required
in
this
section,
so
you
can
and
again
as
a
part
of
state
law.
You
cannot
demolish
more
than
25
percent
of
the
existing
exterior
walls
of
an
existing
unit.
T
We
also
state
that,
if
you
no
previous
dedication
was
required,
you
have
to
dedicate
the
right
of
a
way
and
for
make
the
furniture
improvements
as
required
by
the
city.
T
If
there
are
you
know,
if
you
have
a
two-story
building
your
second
story,
first-story
ratio
cannot
exceed
for
fifty
percent
if
you're
coming
in
under
sb9,
if
you're
coming
in
under
discretionary
permits,
that's
a
different
standard.
There's
different
regulations
for
that.
But
this
is,
you
know,
similar
to
our
existing
standards,
but
you
can
go
up
if
the
stan
setbacks
are
increased
or,
if
you're
in
r1a
zone.
So
there
are
certain
exceptions
to
that
and
r1a
zones
have
their
own
regulations.
T
High
volume
interior
areas
are
double
counted
for
floor
area
purposes.
This
is
existing
standards.
We
do
this
in
our
discretionary
processes
as
well.
The
first
floor
and
second
floor
setbacks
along
the
front
are
the
same
as
the
underlying
zoning
district.
So
you're
still
gonna
have
to
meet
your
20
foot
front.
Your
25
foot
front
yard
setback,
whatever
it
states
in
there
or
if
you
have
a
light
and
air
easement
recorded
on
your
tentative
map.
You've
got
to
meet
that
requirement.
T
Third
car
spaces:
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
are
putting
in
a
third
car
space,
it
needs
to
be
in
tandem
or
in
a
detached
structure
at
the
rear.
This
is
primarily
because
that
of
the
potential
for
narrow
lots
because
of
the
urban
lot
splits
the
flag,
lots
of
side
oriented
garages.
You
know
at
the
rear,
if
you're
proposing
a
if
you
have
a
flag,
a
lot
or
if
you're,
proposing
a
side
oriented
garage
at
the
rear
of
the
building.
T
You
do
not
need
to
set
the
garage
back
or
provide
ten
of
spaces.
You
could
have
three
garages,
then,
in
that
case,
at
the
rear,
when
it's
not
really
visible
from
the
public
right
away.
With
regard
to
first
and
second
floor
side
and
rear
setbacks,
that's
four
feet,
as
required
by
state
law.
Unless
you
have,
for
example,
you
have
a
three
foot
setback
or
a
zero
lot
line.
T
You
know
whatever
the
situation
is
and
you're
replacing
it
in
the
same
location
and
to
the
same
dimensions,
but
you
cannot
encroach
on
public
or
private
utilities
mints
and
that's
the
requirement
of
state
law
for
corner
triangles.
This
is
a
health
and
safety
standard.
We
don't
usually
allow
any
structures
in
corner
triangles,
however,
because
of
state
law
requirements.
You
know
we're
basically
saying
you
can't
have
anything
in
a
corner
triangle.
T
Unless
it
conflicts
with
the
state
requirement
for
the
forefoot
maximum
on
the
side
setback,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
an
out
there
for
certain
people
for
some
portion
of
that
corner
triangle,
potentially
detached
structures,
and
I
take
that
back
with
detailed
structures-
must
be
set
back
five
feet
from
each
eve
and
that's
our
existing
standard
that
we
have
in
our
accessory
structure
ordinance.
T
If
you
have
an
eye
zoning
district,
then
you
get
to
be
18
feet
maximum.
With
regard
to
building
envelope
standards,
we
have
first
floor
building
on
wolf
standards,
which
is
very
similar
to
existing
standards.
With
regard
to
the
second
floor,
there
is
a
building
envelope
standard
proposed
and
essentially
the
way
that
the
building
envelope
standards
are
proposed
is
that
it
would
allow
two
nine
foot
plates.
T
T
If
you
allow
a
law
allows
about
16
feet
at
a
4
foot
setback,
and
so
this
would
allow
two
nine
foot
plates
roughly
at
that
four
foot
setback
there
are
basement
setbacks
identified
in
this
proposed
ordinance,
there's
also
a
requirement
that
basements
would
only
be
allowed
on
lots
that
are
greater
than
5000
square
feet
and
one
of
the
sp9
duplex
units
could
entirely
be
contained
in
the
basement
unit.
If,
if
proposed,
that
way,
light
wells
would
be
limited
to
the
minimum
number
and
size
required
for
light
and
air
under
the
building
code.
T
Some
of
the
ways
of
making
sure
that
they
would
be
limited
are
outlined
here,
basically
to
say
that
only
windows
would
be
allowed
for
emergency
access.
Egress
there
will
an
emergency
egress
is
only
allowed
for
areas
where
you
have
to
provide
emergency
egress.
There's
certain
areas
in
basements
that
you're
not
required
to
provide
emergency
egress
under
a
building
code.
So
essentially
that
this
is
a
requirement
that
states
you.
You
cannot
provide
emergency
users
for
areas
where
it's
not
required
for
under
building
code.
T
Transom
windows
would
be
allowed
for
light
and
air
where
which
is
not
required.
You
can
only
have
one
exterior
exit
door.
If
you
have
a
separate
unit
in
the
in
the
basement
area,
we
have
single
story.
Homes
are
allowed
a
10
by
10
like
well,
and
that's
a
standard
that
currently
exists
in
our
discretionary
processes.
T
We've
kind
of
incorporated
that
here
and
of
course,
railings
can
have
the
maximum
height
of
three
foot
six
inches,
which
is
the
same
as
existing
standards,
because
that's
the
height,
that's
required
by
building
code
light
wheels
would
not
be
allowed
to
encroach
within
setback
areas
and,
of
course
they
cannot
be
visible
from
the
street
with
regard
to
landscaping.
Of
course,
these
are
all
similar
to
existing
standards.
We're
basically
saying
that
you
need
to
plant
a
california
native
tree
in
the
front
yard,
a
24-inch
box,
particularly
if
you
have
a
two-story
home.
T
If
you
have
an
existing
tree,
you
can
give
us
an
arborist
report.
You
know
certify
that
that
existing
tree
is
in
good
health
and
that
can
be
certified
substituted
for
that
24
inch
front
yard
tree
that
is
required.
A
covenant
would
be
required
to
record
these
trees
as
protected
trees,
to
make
sure
that
they're
protected
and
not
removed
by
the
property
owner
again
for
privacy
protection.
They
are
required
for
second
story
windows
or
projections
from
the
second
story
or
any
openings
in
the
second
story.
Wall.
T
T
We
also
are
requiring
private
open
space
for
each
unit
on
the
ground
level,
so
15
of
unit
area
has
to
be
provided
on
the
first
floor,
with
no
dimension
of
that
private
pro
open
space
being
less
than
10
feet
so
and
then,
additionally,
for
permitted
yard
encroachments.
T
There
are,
you
know,
front
entry
features
such
things
like
that
can
approach
up
to
three
feet
into
a
required
setback,
but
in
under
no
circumstance
can
be
closer
than
three
feet
to
the
property
line,
and
this
is
similar
to
our
existing
standards.
T
One
thing
that
we
wanted
to
make
clear
as
an
objective
standard
is
the
architectural
features
just
bay
windows
or
things
like
that.
They
cannot
exceed
50
of
the
wall
that
they're
on
as
seen
from
the
interior,
because
sometimes
we
do
see
that
where
somebody
comes
in
and
when
you
look
at
it
when
you
imagine
it
from
looking
inside
the
room
outside
the
bay
window
could
be
80
to
90
percent
of
that
room
looking
out,
and
it
does.
T
With
regard
to
second
story,
decks
council
had
wanted
options.
We
provided
those
options
in
the
draft
ordinance.
The
council
has
options
to
either
deny
all
decks
as
in
not
allow
any
decks
or
allow
decks.
If
the
lot
width
is
50
feet,
or
you
know,
you
basically
have
to
have
a
minimum
of
50
feet
in
order
to
have
a
deck
and
as
long
as
you're
no
more
than
five
feet
higher
than
your
adjacent
numbers.
T
T
The
third
option
is:
it's
only
allowed
if
the
balcony
faces
the
front
yard
of
that
property
or
faces
a
public
street.
Additionally,
there
are
certain
other
requirements.
You
know
limiting
the
size
and
depth
of
the
balcony,
et
cetera,
et
cetera
if
the
council
does
choose
to
allow
dex,
so
those
are
kind
of
the
first
three
bullet
points,
kind
of
outlined
that
counts
as
three
options
for
dex,
as
proposed.
T
There
are
designs
several
design
standards
proposed
in
order
to
make
it
easier
for
applicants
and
staff
to
implement
sb9
they're
related
to
entry
features.
Porch
features
you
know,
making
sure
that
there
are
no,
you
know
exterior
or
uncovered
staircases,
making
sure
that
there
is,
you
know
not
shading
of
existing
solar
panels.
You
know
making
sure
that
existing
design
standards
can
be
applied
to
the
project.
There
are
standards
for
sloped
lots.
T
The
standard
is
essentially
to
defer
to
rhs
standards,
window
trim,
standards
to
garage
door
standards,
roof
overhangs,
making
sure
that
the
architectural
style
and
materials
are
used
consistently
throughout
the
property.
You
know
how
much
of
the
garage
the
proportion
of
the
garage
space
to
living
space
from
a
facade
perspective,
there's
certain
front
elevation
requirements.
You
know
to
make
sure
that
the
front
is
aesthetically
designed
requiring
certain
elements
to
be
incorporated
into
that
front.
T
There
are
requirements
to
make
sure
that
we
addre,
you
know
basically
refer
back
to
our
existing
standards
on
accessory
buildings,
except
that
the
adus
would
not
be
allowed.
If
a
lot
is
subdivided
and
units
are
built
pursuant
to
sb9
making
sure
that
fences
and
outdoor
lighting
comply
with
our
existing
standards,
making
sure
that
there's
room
for
refuse
recycling
in
other
containers
per
unit,
because
those
do
require
space
on
property
and
that
they're
appropriately
screened
and
also
requirements
for
parking.
T
Basically,
of
course,
we
are
limited
by
state
law
and
what
we
can
require,
but
if
you
provide
more
than
what
state
law
allow
you
know
requires
you
to
provide,
then
you
have
to
meet
our
existing
standards
they're.
You
know,
driveway
curb
cut
driveway
requirements,
not
just
curb
cut,
but
you
know
how
wide
a
driveway
can
be.
So
you
know
a
one
car
driveway,
you
know
can
be
between
10
or
12
feet.
Two
car
driveway
is
a
maximum
of
20
feet.
T
If
you
provide
more
spaces,
they
have
to
be
provided
in
tandem
under
state
loss.
Short-Term
rentals
are
not
activities
not
allowed
on
sb9
unit
in
sp9
units.
Another
area
for
council
to
consider
is
kind
of
minimizing
these
units.
You
know
the
options
are
really
if
the
council
wishes
to
allow
that
or
not.
Those
are
two
options
for
council
and
languages
proposed
in
the
proposed
ordinance.
T
I
will
stop
at
this
point
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
about
what
I've
talked
about
so
far
about
lot
subdivision
and.
C
A
After
that,
if
you
want
to
respond
to
any
of
the
public
comments
or
questions
and
then
we'll
take
it
to
a
consultation.
T
Absolutely
there
is
the
next
set
of
amendments
are
in
the
rhs
coordinates
basically
to
allow
the
new
lot,
but
lots
of
divisions
again
same
thing,
40
to
50
of
the
original
lots,
we're
requiring
everybody
to
share
a
driveway
so
that
no
new
driveways
are
proposed
because
that
does
require
grading
and
a
considerable
cost
adds
considerable
cost
to
development.
T
Again,
the
same
thing
about
no
more
than
two
property
lines
being
added
to
create
that
new
lot
and
we
want
those
to
follow
the
contours
of
the
property.
If
there
is
a
percolation
test
required.
If
sanitary
sewer
connection
is
unavailable,
you
know
we
will
comply
with
state
law
with
regard
to
those
requirements.
T
We
want
the
building
pad
on
rhs
property
to
be
on
the
flattest
portion
of
the
resulting
lots
closest
to
the
existing
or
proposed
driveway,
and
no
hillside
exceptions
would
be
allowed
for
substandard
lots
created
as
a
result
of
the
new
state
law.
Essentially
they
basically,
if
they
can't
meet
our
requirements,
then
they
get
800
square
foot
units
to
800
square
foot
units
for
the
the
amount
of
grading
that
you
can
do
on
these
properties.
You
know
it's
half
of
the
existing
standards.
T
Of
course,
if
you
used
up
all
your
grading
on
the
primary
property,
then
you're
kind
of
out
of
luck,
you
kind
of
limit
it
to
the
800
square
foot
units.
T
The
grading
is
also
limited
to
within
50
feet
of
the
pad
that
you're,
proposing
flat
yard
would
also
be
limited
to
half
of
what
the
existing
standards
are,
because
you've
got
two
lots.
Now
there
are
certain
requirements
added
in
about
screening
the
buildings
from
the
prominent
intersections
on
the
valley
floor.
T
Those
intersections
have
long
been
established
through
the
hillside
exception
process,
since
1993
those
are
just
being
added
to
the
ordinance
projects
pursuant
to
the
new
state
law
would
not
be
allowed
to
encroach
on
the
15
sight
line
from
the
prominent
ridgelines
and
those
are
in
order.
That
is
done
in
order
to
protect
the
view
of
the
hills
from
the
valley
floor
so
that
the
public
at
large
can
enjoy
those
views
without
having
to
see
very
large
structures
on
the
hills.
T
Lots
greater
than
30
percent
would
be.
A
grading
would
be
limited
to
500
square
feet,
that's
similar
to
existing
non-discretionary
limits,
and
it
would
allow
as
long
as
you're
allowed
to
800
square
foot
units.
But
you
then
you
would
not
be
allowed
any
other
development.
You
know
for
a
pool
yard
or
things
like
that.
There
is
language
added
to
protect
trade
linkages
anticipated
in
the
general
plan
and
again
there
would
be
requirements
for
privacy,
protection
for
second
story
windows
and
special
window
treatment.
T
If
you're
too
close
to
the
side
and
rear
property
line,
which
is
you
know,
for
the
setbacks,
are
four
feet
as
required
by
state
law.
In
these
areas
area,
you
are
allowed
the
800
square
feet,
but
if
you
meet
all
the
objective
standards
of
the
rhs
ordinance
as
amended,
then
the
floor
area
would
be
proportionate
to
what
you
would
be
allowed
for
the
existing
lot.
T
So,
for
example,
if
your
far
for
the
existing
lot
before
subdivision
was
5
000
square
feet,
and
if
you
split
that
lot
into
a
50
50,
then
each
new
lot
would
be
allowed
2500
square
feet.
So
essentially,
it
allows
you
know,
rhs
properties,
to
apportion
that
fdr
onto
those
two
properties,
side
setbacks
four
feet
for
projects
under
state
law.
It
allows
the
extension
of
legal
non-conforming
walls
would
not
be
allowed
lot
splits
or
units
with
development
of
units
pursuant
to
sb9.
T
Those
lots
would
not
be
allowed
in
adu
or
jdu
as
currently
proposed
our
design
standards
added
regarding
garages,
entry
features
things
like
that,
similar
to
the
r1
ordinance.
Off-Street.
Improvements
may
be
required
for
lots
that
previously
do
not
have
to
dedicate
or
make
those
improvements
under
state
law.
Again.
Short-Term
rentals
are
prohibited
and
other
minor
clarifications
in
this
section
to
make
things
more
objective
again,
a
new
section
has
been
proposed
for
the
development
of
two
units.
T
It
allows
us
to
have
that
new
permit
be
applied
to
those
permits
and
it
mirrors
many
of
the
design
standards
that
I've
already
discussed
on
the
in
the
context
of
the
r1
development.
T
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
we
have
a
comparison
of
the
processes
under
existing
and
the
new
you
know
requirements
under
state
law.
The
only
difference
really
is
with
regard
to
the
hearing
body
and
the
appeals
process
in
under
the
hearing
body
for
an
urban
lot
split.
Currently
we
have
to
have
a
public
hearing
and
the
admin
hearing
officer
decides
on
that
parcel
map
under
the
new
state
law.
We
would
have
to
decide
this
at
the
state
level
without
a
hearing,
similarly
for
a
two-story
permit.
T
T
We
would
continue
to
have
a
comment
period,
but
there
wouldn't
be
much
opportunity
to
request
changes,
particularly
if
those
comments
are
esoteric
and
not
objective
related
to
the
municipal
code,
so
there
could
be
no
changes
required
of
the
project,
even
if
we
do
get
multiple
comments
of
dissatisfaction
with
regard
to
the
appeals
there.
T
There
are
under
both
the
urban
lots
of
the
parcel
map
and
for
the
two
story
permits
we
do
have
appeals
and
those
appeals
are
first
heard
of
the
planning
commission,
where
it's
final
and
if
it's
appealed
again
it
comes
to
city
council.
Under
the
proposed
you
know,
regulations
there
would
be
no
appeals
of
that,
because
this
is
a
ministerial
process.
T
Again
there
is
a
under
the
adu
chapter.
There's
an
amendment
made
to
disallow
adus
or
jadu's
on
properties
that
are
either
subdivided
and
or
developed
with
up
to
two
units
under
sb9
and
then
that's
my
final
slide.
The
recommended
action
is
to
conduct
the
one
and
only
reading
of
this
interim
or
urgency
ordinance
number
21
2233
by
title.
Only
so
with
that.
I
conclude
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions.
A
Great
thank
you
very
much
pew.
As
I
stated
earlier,
we'll
be
going
to
public
comment
at
this
time
and
so
we'll
take
the
public
comments,
pew
or
anyone
from
staff.
Please
feel
free
to
respond
to
the
public
comments
or
questions
more
particularly
raised
during
that
time.
After
that,
we'll
take
it
back
to
council
for
the
clarifying
questions
of
staff
regarding
the
presentation
followed
by
motion
practice
by
my
council
on
deliberation.
A
So
at
this
point
I
have
four
hands
raised
from
the
public.
They
are
from
jennifer
griffin,
andrew
wong,
peggy,
griffin
and
lisa
warren
and
I'll
just
remind
everyone.
You'll
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
if
you
want
to
speak
on
this
item,
please
have
your
hand
raised
before
the
conclusion
of
the
first
speaker's
comments.
Jennifer,
griffin,
welcome
and
again
you'll
have
three
minutes.
H
Thank
you,
mayor
darcy,
thank
you
to
the
staff
for
bravely
going
into
this
very,
very
controversial
area.
The
city
has
got
to
do
what
it's
got
to
do
to
protect
itself.
I
will
state
right
now.
I
will
never
vote
for
this
governor
for
governor
of
this
state
again
or
if
he
runs
for
president.
I
will
never
vote
for
him.
I
will
never
vote
for
any
politician
that
had
a
hand
in
passing,
sb9
and
sb10.
That
is
my
solemn
oath.
H
I
think
the
city
has
been
forced
to
try
to
come
up
with
legislation
to
protect
itself.
I
live
in
an
extremely
vulnerable
neighborhood.
We
are
under
fifty
five
hundred
five
thousand
square
foot
watts
every
single
lot
in
my
neighborhood
fifteen
hundred
of
them
are
under
sixty
feet.
I
I
commend
the
city
for
doing
everything
possible
to
make
sure
that
this
happens.
H
This
sb9
horror
campaign
is
going
to
try
to
the
city
is
going
to
try
to
protect
the
residents
as
best
as
they
can.
I
have
read
the
los
altos
and
los
altos
hills,
and
I
completely
agree
with
them.
I
would
just
start
out
saying:
remember:
we
have
very
very
old
street
trees
in
my
neighborhood.
I
cannot.
H
I
I'm
not
sure
where
these
trees
are
fitting
in
with
this,
but
I
am
assuming
the
city
will
do
everything
possible
to
protect
our
existing
trees
and
their
root
structures.
I
will
say
right
now
that
if
people
are
not
aware
of
it
that
6.2
earthquake
in
mendocino
yesterday,
my
mother
felt
it
in
aptos
at
12
15.
Yesterday
it
rolled
she
was
third
10
miles
away
when
she
went
through
the
1989
loma
prieta
and
it
knocked
her
to
the
ground.
H
She
said
it
was
the
same
movement,
it
was
the
san
andreas
fault
and
she
is
in
sandstone
shale.
She
is
in
the
coastal
commission
conservancy
within
aptos.
God
forbid
that
you
get
a
full
rip
out.
Earthquake
like
I
went
through
1989
earthquake
at
the
anza
college
and
the
spray
was
going
10
feet
in
every
direction.
H
I
think
that
the
city
is
being
wise
to
put
forth
this
type
of
legislation
to
protect
the
residents
from
this
type
of
dangerous
zoning
that
the
state
has
come
up
with
for
nine
and
ten,
which
I
can
never
condone
that
the
city
has
to
do
what
the
city
has
to
do.
Have
you
all
looked
at?
What's
happened
with
the
hoa
because
there
is
no
clear
consensus
whether
the
hoas
will
be
affected
by
this?
H
A
And
the
hands
raised
are
the
same
and
we
had
at
the
very
last
moment
an
additional
hand
raised
from
stephen
scharf,
and
so
our
next
speaker
is
andrew
wong
welcome
andrew.
O
Hi,
thank
you
mayor.
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
requirement
that
a
california
native
tree
would
be
required
as,
like
part
of
the
landscaping.
I
think
that's
a
very
good
idea,
and
I
think
it's
like
it's
in
line
with,
like
the
city's
master
plans
for
sustainability
and
helping
the
environment
and
and
yeah.
I
just
want
to
commend
that
point.
O
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
andrew
and
so
I'll
we'll
our
staff
is
listening
and
presumably
we'll
address
our
points
from
public
comment
after
the
last
speaker
is
done.
Andrew.
Did
that
conclude
your
comments?
A
U
The
material
provided
by
the
staff
is
extensive
and
very
thorough,
and
I
thank
them
for
their
efforts.
I
request
of
the
council
that
you
pick
option
a
not
to
allow
second
story
decks
and
balconies
and
also
pick
option
g
in
two
different
sections
that
make
it
in
converting
to
condo
map
ineligible.
U
U
I
didn't
see
anything
that
permit
that
that
didn't,
and
also
in
the
r1a
that
the
encroachment
has
changed
to
be
much
more
than
what
it
is
right
now
and
so
I'd
like
those
two
things
reviewed.
U
I
also
want
to
know
if
this
ordinance
nope
never
mind
and
again.
Thank
you
all
for
taking
a
positive,
forward-looking
approach
to
a
state-mandated
law.
The
ultimate
goal
is
to
provide
more
housing
in
a
structured
and
safe
environment.
So
I
thank
you
all.
This
has
been
a
lot
of
work
and
I'd
like
to
hear
the
answers
to
my
question
about
tweets
and
changes.
Rhs
does
its.
Does
this
ordinance
prevent
second
story,
doubt
balconies
index
and
r1a?
U
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much,
peggy
I'll,
just
pause
very
briefly
to
confirm
that
staff
is
tracking
these
questions,
I'll
just
go
by
not
of
head
or
if,
if
a
shake
of
a
head
I'll
go
ahead
and
pause
it
again,
so
I
saw
a
couple
of
key
head
nods
there.
So
thank
you
very
much.
So
we
have
next
lisa
warren,
followed
by
stephen
scharf.
Welcome
lisa.
V
Oh,
thank
you.
So
I'll
just
be
quick.
I
said
well
I'll
be
fast.
I
sent
an
email
today
and
a
follow-up
one.
I
hope
you
had
a
chance
to
read
it
because
I
don't
want
to
read
it
all
and
lose
a
chance
for
other
things:
balconies
no
balconies
and
please
describe
what's
different
between
a
balcony
and
a
second
story,
deck
to
me,
they're
the
same,
but
they're
used
interchangeably
and
it's
confusing.
It
needs
to
be
very
clear,
no
basements!
So
please
choose
that
option.
V
V
We've
got
infrastructure
that
has
to
go
in
between
to
serve
the
units
and
it's
it's
just
too
much
stuff
being
stuck
in
the
ground
and
it
won't
allow
for
a
healthy
growth
of
trees.
If
there's
concrete
poured
20
feet
down
in
the
soil
or
12
or
whatever
it
would
be,
and
I
I
wonder
if
the
building
department
has
weighed
in
on
some
of
these
things.
There's
another
thing
I
want
to
know
somewhere.
It
says
the
outdoor
minimum
space
for
outdoors
for
a
unit
is
less,
is
10
square
feet.
V
If
that
is
true,
how
can
that
be
considered
humane?
And
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
to
do
about
it
when
you
have
these
things
able
to
go
so
close
together?
As
you
know,
I
keep
saying
and
wanting
to
screen
the
privacy
planting
requirements
that
are
existing
are
already
a
problem,
and
this
only
makes
things
worse.
So
we
really
really
need
to
tighten
that
up
and
fix
it.
V
I'm
concerned
about
the
solar
comments,
and
will
these
structures
units
require
be
required
to
have
solar
or
are
they
exempt
from
what
is
already
a
state
law
that
begins
in
january?
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
if
yeah
it's
in
what
I
wrote
hopefully
read
it
and
we
need
very
good
noticing
if
there
is
no
appeal
process-
and
I
can
understand
why,
but
there
has
to
be
really
good
notice
and
ample
information
for
people
to
at
least
make
comments.
V
Pew
mentioned
not
being
able
to
really
address
those
comments,
but
you
know
you
never
know,
and
people
need
the
opportunity
and,
in
my
opinion,
something
like
this
should
be
noticed
with
a
sign
like
a
two-story
building,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that's
not
required.
I
have
parking
concerns,
yeah,
no
condo,
no
condo,
no
condo,
please
define
landscape.
Clearly,
and
please
do
everything
like
jennifer
asked
to
protect
existing
established
large.
V
You
know
trees,
we
more
than
we
know
with
lot
splits
that
could
become
a
big
problem
and
just
please
do
whatever
can
be
done
to
make
it
a
small
problem.
A
Thank
you
lisa.
Your
three
minutes
has
elapsed.
Okay,
appreciate
it
all
right.
Our
final
speaker
is
steven
scharf
welcome,
stephen.
W
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
staff
has
done
please
adopt
as
strict
standards
as
possible
for
sb9
in
the
future.
We
can
loosen
them
if
needed.
I
agree
neat.
I
agree
that
we
need
to
more
clearly
define
balconies,
not
just
for
sb9,
but
in
general.
It's
a
big
point
of
contention
in
the
city.
W
Parking
is
a
big
concern.
We
may
have
to
look
into
permit
parking
for
more
and
more
neighborhoods
if
a
lot
of
lot
splits
occur
and
there's
insufficient
street
parking
remaining.
W
I
would
also
point
out:
sb9
has
zero
affordability
requirements
and,
in
fact,
will
make
housing
less
affordable
as
real
estate.
Investors
buy
up
houses,
tear
them
down,
put
in
four
to
six
units
on
a
lot
and
then
sell
or
rent
those
units
at
market
rates
in
portland
where
they
did
a
similar
loss
split
law.
There
is
an
affordability
requirement,
but
that
was
removed
from
sb9
at
the
request
of
property
developers
and
real
estate
investors.
W
I
know
it's
too
late,
but
I
would
point
out
that
nearly
every
affordable
housing
organization
in
california,
as
well
as
nearly
every
california
city,
opposed
sd9
and
sb10.
Most
notably,
housing
is
a
human
right.
W
We'll
have
state
assembly
members
and
state
senators
that
will
act
in
the
best
interest
of
residents
in
cities
and
finally,
hopefully,
in
the
november
on
the
november
2022
ballot,
we'll
have
aca
7
a
ballot
measure
that
will,
if
enough
signatures
are
collected,
we'll
undo
many
of
these
state
laws.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
stephen
we'll.
Take
it
back
up
to
staff
to
address
any
questions
or
follow
up
to
comments
that
were
provided
by
members
of
the
public,
and
so
at
this
point
pew
or
city
attorney
chris.
Would
you
like
to
address
those
questions
and
comments
from
the
public.
Q
I'll
address
some
of
the
higher
level
questions
first
and
then
I
think
there
were
some
more
specific
questions
about
development
standards
that
I
think
you
will
do
a
better
job.
Answering
that
I
will
so
so
just
sort
of
some
of
the
the
more
general
comments
about
you
know
such
as
landscaping
tree
protection.
Q
So
so
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
that
these
projects
will
have
to
comply
with
all
ethical
objective
standards
in
the
existing
code,
and
so
so
so,
for
example,
the
projects
will
have
to
comply
with
the
objective
standards
of
our
tree
protection
ordinance
and
we
relied
on
those
existing
standards
with
some
minor
tweaks
to
try
to
make
sure
that
they
were
objective
and
enforceable.
In
this
context,
as
far
as
rewriting
those
standards
I
mean
that's,
that
is
that
that
may
be
a
project
that
council
wishes
direct
staff
to
do.
Q
I
think
it
would
be
difficult
and
arguably
not
appropriate,
to
do
in
the
context
of
this
interim
ordinance.
That's
you
know,
being
developed
in
essentially
an
emergency
context,
so
so
that's
just
sort
of
an
overall
view
of
how
those
issues
are
addressed.
Related
to
that
there
will
be
a
public
process
next
year.
This
is
an
interim
ordinance.
Q
It
will
have
to
be
reauthorized
by
council
after
45
days
and
and
after
that,
reauthorization
it
will
assuming
it's
reauthorized.
It
will
be
in
effect
for
for
up
to
a
year.
Q
So
during
next
year
there
will
be
a
public
process,
the
org,
if
we
will
be
going
to
planning,
commission
and
eventually
council,
with
a
permanent
ordinance
to
replace
this,
and
so
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
all
of
those
questions
at
this
time
and
have
a
much
more
wholesome
public
process
than
we
were
able
to
have
in
the
limited
time
that
we've
had
this
fall,
and
so
finally,
one
other
specific
legal
question
that
I
believe
it
was
miss
warren
that
asked
is
so
that
these
projects
are
required
to
comply
with
all
building
standards,
including
energy
code
requirements,
and
so
they
will.
Q
You
know,
projects
will
be
required
to
comply
with
the
current
energy
code
and
then
the
22
2022
energy
code,
which
I
believe
was
referenced,
and
my
understanding
is
that
takes
it
back
january,
1
2023.
It
is
called
the
2022
energy
code,
so
that's
just
confusing
nomenclature
that
building
standards
typically
use.
Q
T
Sure
I
had
a
you
know
a
question
about
the
input
that
you
know.
People
can
provide
on
certain
tweaks
that
need
to
be
made
to
the
proposed
ordinance.
You
know
as
chris
mentioned.
Yes,
there
will
be
a
regular
ordinance
that
will
be
you.
G
T
An
outreach
process
conducted
to
prepare
a
regular
ordinance
which
will
be
presented
to
council
planning
commission
council
next
year,
so
that
would
be
the
appropriate
time
to
provide
that
public
input.
You
know
there
were.
There
was
a
question
about
whether
the
r1a
standards
post
with
this
ordinance
was
any
different
than
the
ordinance.
You
know
requirements
as
they
stand
today.
The
way
that
we
have
tried
to
write
this
ordinance
is
to
make
sure
that
the
standards
remain
the
same
for
r1a,
particularly
if
you
want
the
incentive
to
get
up
to
the
45
percent
far
again.
T
T
You
know
what
is
the
the
roof
of
the
first
floor
and
serving
as
a
place
where
you
can
walk
onto
on
the
second
floor,
that
would
be
considered
a
deck,
but
a
balcony
would
be
a
projection
from
the
second
story,
so
it
projects
outwards
from
the
second
story
wall
that
would
be
considered
balcony.
T
That's
how
we
differentiate
between
a
balcony
and
a
deck,
at
least
that's
how
we
look
at
it,
and
then
I
think
there
was
a
a
question
about
you
know
whether
dex
could
be
disallowed
in
the
rhs
zoning
district
for
sp9
properties.
That
would
certainly
be
done
at
the
council's
pleasure
as
the
ordinance
is
proposed
right
now.
T
We
haven't
proposed
that,
because
rhs
properties
are
generally
fairly
much
larger
than
the
r1
properties
in
general,
so
that
has
not
necessarily
been
proposed
at
this
time,
but
if
the
council
wishes
to
incorporate
that
with
this
urgency
ordinance,
we
can
certainly
include
that
within
the
sortency
ordinance
as
well.
So
I
think
those
were
all
the
questions
that
I
got
from
the
public
speakers.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much
pew
and
thank
you
very
much
chris.
Let's
go
ahead
and
take
this
to
council
at
this
time,
and
I
remind
everyone
we're
at
council
questions.
This
will
be
prior
to
our
deliberative
process,
which
all
I'd
like
to
initiate,
after
our
questions
are
concluded,
with
a
request
for
a
motion
and
a
second
for
us
to
either
vote
or
to
commence
and
continue
to
continue
with
deliberations
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
my
order
of
hands
on
zoom.
K
A
Yeah,
no,
if
you'd
like
to
reiterate
those
questions
briefly
or
at
least
give
us
some
context
here
in
the
public
meeting
as
to
the
nature
of
them,
so
that.
K
So
so
one
question
I
have
is
it
says:
no
more
than
two
garage
spaces
may
be
visible
from
the
right
of
way.
Additional
space
must
be
proposed
in
tendon
or
at
the
rail
of
the
property.
If
there
is
room
say
if
it
probably
has
a
lot
of
friend
space,
you
know
and
then
allows
more
than
50
to
be
not
garage.
T
At
this,
as
proposed,
that
is
correct,
we
are
requiring
that
the
third
guard
space
be
in
tandem
or
at
the
rear
of
the
property.
If
the
council
wishes
to
look
into
that
now,
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
want
to
point
out
that,
in
order
for
a
three-car
garage,
you
would
need
to
have
at
least
a
60
to
62-foot
building
frontage.
On
top
of
that,
if
you
have
the
four
foot
setback
that
is
required
by
state
law
to
be
allowed,
you
have
what
would
be
a
75
foot
lot.
T
T
So
what
you're
expressing
council
member
way
would
be
for
a
very
few
lots
where
you
would
be
able
to
accommodate
three-car
garages,
so
we're
trying
to
hit
that
sweet
spot
where
you
know
these
regulations
would
apply
in
general,
and
we
do
not
have
that
many
lots
that
are
150
feet
or
wider.
Okay.
T
K
So
I
I
would
propose
we
add
if
a
lot
has
175
feet
that
could
accommodate
a
three-car
garage
comfortably
that
we
allow
them
to
do
it,
even
though
we
I
know
we
have
very
few
but
intended
garage,
it
really
doesn't
look
good.
It's
not
critical
that
that
would
be
my
suggestion
that
if,
if
it's,
we
can
add
a
said
if
a
friend
law
has
175
that
could
accommodate
a
company
comfortably
three
car
garage,
we
should
be
able
to
route
it.
K
T
As
written
yes,
the
shadow
study
is
required
if
you
have
an
existing
solar
panel
array
on
the
neighbor's
property
in
order
to
make
sure
that
that
existing
solar
panel
is
not
shaded
by
more
than
10
percent.
So.
K
One
one
question
I
like
to
for
a
council
to
consider
or
discussion
is
on
the.
This
is
not
my
question,
but
when
I
reread
it
on
section
19.28.150.
K
It
says
the
limitation
that
the
duplex
two
duplexes
they
should
be
200
square
feet,
bigger,
not
you
know,
within
the
200
square
feet
size
not
bigger
than
a
common
common
accommodating
duplex
unit.
I
think
we
can
discuss
this
because
that
will
limit
the
duplexes
to
about
the
same
size.
I
think
that's
the
reason
for
it,
but
if
we
want
to
accommodate
more
families,
so
if
a
family
can
have
one
second
have
three
bedrooms,
the
other
is
one
bedroom,
so
a
family
could
accommodate
it.
I
would.
A
Remember
wait.
Let
me
let
me
just
cut
you
off
there.
I
I
just
fully
digress
into
comments
and
just
try
to
keep
this
on
questions
for
the
time.
K
You've
got
it
okay,
then
I
have
no
money.
That
would
be
a
comment.
I
would
like
to
the
council
to
consider
wonderful.
A
So
yeah
we'll
just
keep
this
on
clarifying
questions.
Keeping
aware
of
time.
I'd
like
us
to
you
know,
wrap
within
the
half
hour
for
this
item
and
that'll
leave
us
each
with
about
three
minutes
for
the
questions
portion
and
three
minutes,
deliberatively,
of
course
I'll
reallocate
as
as
needed.
I
don't
really
have
many
questions
you
know
on
my
part,
so
you
know,
for
instance,
that
would
be
available
to
others.
So,
let's
go
on
to
vice
mayor
chow,
followed
by
council
member
willie
and
again
this
is
questions
of
staff.
At
this
point.
L
T
Correct
that
is
as
written.
Yes,
you
are
right.
One
of
the
things
that
we
currently
utilize
is
that
we
do
have
setback
requirements
on
the
second
floor
and
we
have
more
setback
requirements
on
the
first
floor
than
we
could
require
under
sb9.
T
So
as
a
result,
we've
you
know
we
kind
of
use
our
existing
setbacks
as
a
proxy
to
make
sure
that
there's
enough
sunlight
available
to
neighboring
properties,
but
with
the
sb9
requirements
we
aren't
quite
sure,
and
so
we
were
trying
to
address
that
issue
by
requiring
us.
So
a
shade
study,
if
you
have
existing
solar
panels
on
neighboring
properties,.
L
L
Close
to
open
those
are
required
so
with
the
new
sb9
project
for
each
primary
unit.
I
guess
it
could
be
one
primary
and
the
80
or
it
could
be
two
primary
that
would
be
duplex,
so
only
one
enclosed
is
required.
Is
there
another
one
for
not
enclosed
or
it's
just
one?
It's
just
the
one.
So
just
one
does
it
have
to
be
enclosed
or
it
could
be
a
porch.
T
Well,
they
have
to
have
a
driveway
approach
to
get
to
that,
to
that
to
get
to
the
garage.
T
L
Okay
and
then,
regarding
the
this,
the
bill
says
that
we
cannot
require
as
conditions
of
approval,
off-site
improvements
or
corruption
of
existing
non-conforming
conditions,
and
the
first
question
is
on
offsite
improvement.
Does
that
mean,
for
example?
Sometimes
we
require
installation
of
light
poles
on
certain
site
or
the
sidewalk
is.
Is
that
considered
outside
or
off
site?
So
the.
T
So
if,
if
somebody
were
to
come
in
with
a
lot
split,
we
cannot
condition
that
parcel
map
to
say
that
you're
going
to
provide
a
sidewalk
you're
going
to
provide
curb
gutter.
Any
improvements.
However,
when
that
property
does
come
up
for
redevelopment
later,
we
can
require
those
things,
so
you
just
can't
require
it
during
the
lot
split.
L
T
They
are
required
to
construct
it
after
the
when
they
develop
the
lots.
L
A
T
See
that
city
attorney
jensen
has
unmuted
himself,
and
maybe
he
has
something
to
add.
L
J
Okay,
first
question:
a
few
page:
27:
you
talk
about
the
design
standards
without
details,
and
so,
if
you
could
put
that
up
help
craft
the
question
at
least
I'm
seeing
it
as
a
29
on
my
printout.
But
again
it's
the
pages
says,
says:
design
standards
without
giving
specifics.
J
T
I
can
go
over
this
roof.
Overhangs
are
currently
not
required
to
be
two
feet:
they're
recommended
to
be
at
least
12
inches.
We
are
requiring
that
to
be
at
least
12
inches
for
roof
overhangs
for
sb9
developments.
I
can
go
over
each
of
these.
I
just
you
know
I
had
it
was
a
fairly
long
presentation,
so
I
was
trying
to
focus
on
the
particulars,
but
I'm
happy
to
go
over
any
on
all
of
this
with
well.
J
Yeah,
I
don't
want
to
you
know
we
don't
have
that
much
time,
but
I
just
want
to
know
where
the
design
stand.
You
know
I
want
all
the
community
to
know
what
we're
what
were
requiring,
and
so,
if
this
is
simply
directly
requiring
the
prospective
property
owner,
that's
going
to
do
this.
You've
got
to
go
to
our
current
r1
code
and
pull
out
all
these
with
roof.
Overhangs
things
of
that
nature.
T
Correct
so
they
are
in
section
150
and
they
are
codified
in
that
section,
I'm
trying
to
get.
J
Okay,
I.
T
J
The
next
one
I'm
confused
about
is
you
had
a
page
in
there.
That
says,
cannot
demolish
more
than
25
of
the
existing
wall
structure.
J
J
Okay-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
still
had
time
the
hey
john
sorry.
A
M
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
have
it
repeated
about
that,
this
being
a
45
day,
effective
interim
ordinance
and
and
I'm
just
reading
off
from
the
staff
report
within
the
45-day
period
council
may
vote
to
extend
the
ordinance
for
an
additional
10
months
and
15
days
and
then,
in
addition,
it's
anticipated
that
staff
will
develop
a
permanent
ordinance
to
implement
sb9
prior
to
the
expiration
of
the
interim
ordinance.
M
T
Right,
I
think
we
would
need
more
than
45
days
to
come
up
with
a
a
a
regular
ordinance.
So
I
think
what
is
anticipated
that
we'll
come
back
with
an
extension
to
the
council
on
this
urgency
ordinance
and
following
that
in
the
following
10
months
and
15
days,
that
we
have
that
we
would
develop
the
regular
ordinance
and
come
through
the
process.
Do
the
public
outreach
and
go
through
the
whole
process
again.
M
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
and
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
the
the
staff
report
and
all
of
the
work
that
went
into
this
entire
project.
I
know
it
was
very
complex
and-
and
there
was
some
very
thoughtful
consideration
about
how
things
would
end
up
looking,
given
that
it's
a
it's
you
don't
have
to
you,
can
there's
no
wiggle
room.
You
know
these
are
the
rules
and
we're
done
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
councilmember
moore.
I
don't
have
questions
of
this,
and
so
let
me
go
back
to
council
member
willie
with
a
hands
raised.
Councilmember
willie
I'll
go
ahead.
If
anyone
else
raises
their
hand,
vice
mayor
chow,
we'll
go
ahead
and
divvy
up
the
time.
Approximately
four
minutes
remaining
in
questions
council,
member
willie
and
then
vice
merchant.
J
Yeah
and
so
the
requirement
for
the
property
owner
to
occupy
the
at
least
one
of
the
two
duplexes
or
one
of
the
new
structures
on
the
split
lot
for
three
years,
and
so
what
mechanism
do
we
have
to
enforce
that?
So,
if
I'm
correct,
you
know,
a
house
can
go
up
for
sale,
a
a
person
developer
can
come
in
and
buy
it.
J
Do
the
lot
split
put
up
the
two
structures
he's
got
the
requirement
to
live
in
one
of
the
structures
for
three
years
and
if
it's
truly
just
his
business
that
he's
embarking
on
and
has
no
intention
to
to
live
in
it.
I
see
two
different
possibilities.
One
is
the
adjacent
neighbors
they're,
not
bothered.
You
know.
We've
got
a
lot
of
these
mitiga.
These
impacts
noticing
and
things
like
that.
J
J
What
mechanism
do
we
have
to
prevent
that
from
happening?
Maybe
he
leaves
it
vacant
for
the
three
years
at
the
end
of
three
years,
he's
allowed
to
sell
it.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
know
what
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
what
the
community
may
face
as
this
plays
out.
So
that's
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
to
answer,
but
if
you
could
do
your
best.
T
Sure
I
will
actually
very
happily
defer
on
this
question
to
our
city
attorney
for
him
to
respond,
but.
Q
Enjoy
absolutely
yeah
so
so
so
presently
the
the
the
property
owner
is
required
to
sign
an
affidavit
stating
their
intent
to
live
there
for
three
years.
That's
that's
the
enforcement
mechanism
that
is
in
the
interim
ordinance.
You
know
I
would
recommend
seeing
how
the
potential
enforcement
of
that
evolves
and
the
legal
issues
around
that
evolve
over
the
next
year
and
and
then
reconsider
that
when
we
revisit
the
permanent
ordinance
because
of
some
of
the
legal
concerns
with
doing
more
than
that.
A
Thank
you,
chris
vice
mayor
ciao,
you
have
the
remaining
time
we'll
give
you
a
couple
of
minutes.
L
Yeah
one
regarding
the
owner
occupancy,
so
it's
the
state
law
says
that,
from
the
date
of
approval
of
the
lot
split,
they
need
to
reside
in
the
unit
for
three
years.
They
could
get
approval
and
then
doesn't
even
do
anything
for
three
years
right.
Q
This
is
an
area
where
I
hope,
although
I'm
not
sure
that
we
will
be
getting
guidance
from
the
state
as
to
what
that
three
years
means,
and
so
we've
been,
I
would
say,
deliberately
paid
in
the
interim
ordinance
and
to
to
see
how
the
regulatory
environment
evolves
for
the
next
I'd
say.
Can.
L
We
can
we
put
an
expiration
date
on
the
lot
split
approval
that
they
need
to
propose
a
project
within
a
year.
Q
L
Okay
and
then
for
the
non-conforming
conditions,
do
they
have
to
provide
proof
that
the
existing
non-conforming
condition
it
predates
january
1st
2022.
L
P
Q
Q
Right
so
I'll
answer
that,
but
it's
not
necessarily
when,
when,
when
the
condition,
the
non-conforming
condition
arises,
where
what
I
would
say
is
that
that
applies
to
a
a
lawful
non-conforming
condition.
So
if,
if
there
was
a
legal
structure
on
the
property
and
the
zoning
change
that
made
it,
you
know
no
longer
conformance
to
zoning,
then
we
could
not
require
correction
of
that
type
of
condition.
Q
In
connection
with
a
lot
split
approval.
Contrast
that
the
situation
where
an
illegal
structure
is
constructed-
and
you
know
that
was
a-
and
they
were
seeking
to
use
the
lot
split
to
legalize-
that
illegal
structure.
The
lot
split
itself
would
not
grant
them
authority
to
to
to
legalize.
O
Q
Structure,
so
I
I
I
hope
that
answers
your
question,
but
that
that's
the
way
that
I
would
interpret
this
provision
and
and
in
the
past
have
interpreted
similar
provisions
in
the
state
adult.
L
You
the
fuel
and
chris
and
you
this
is
really
comprehensive
work,
and
it's
just
thank
you
for
all
the
support
that
you
have
provided
and
I
did
request
to
allow
on
the
two
units
in
the
lot
split
should
be
attached
so
that
they
could
be
split,
but
still
look
like
a
one
single
family
home
and
then
thank
you
for
including
that
in
the
ordinance.
A
You
should
I
make
a
motion
now
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
this
up
for
any
motion
and
so
vice
mad
ciao.
If
you'd
like
to
bring
it
forth,
please
do
so.
L
Okay,
so
a
move
that
we
conduct
the
first
and
only
reading
and
in
act
interim
ordinance,
number
21-2235,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
cupertino,
adding
or
amending
cupertino
municipal
code
sections.
L
And
so
with
the
following
amendment,
that
the
balcony
or
deck
are
not
allowed
under
the
ministry
of
approval
and
basement
not
allowed,
and
there
should
be
no
converging
to
condos
and
and
then
I
would
like
to
add
also
that
units
approved
under
this
administrative
process
should
not
exceed
2000
square
foot.
L
L
A
A
Member
wooly,
yes,
yeah!
Well,
second,
okay!
Thank
you,
council
member
willie.
We
now
have
a
new
hand
raised,
and
so
let
me
go
to
council,
member
moore,
councilmember
moore.
M
Okay,
thank
you
mayor,
paul,
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion,
which
is
a
little
more,
in
conformance
with
the
the
recommended
action,
and
my
substitute
motion
is
that
we
conduct
the
first
only
reading
of
ordinance
number
21-22,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
cupertino,
adding
or
amending
cupertino
municipal
code
sections,
18.20.170.
M
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councilmember
moore
and
councilmember
moore,
to
clarify
your
motion
because
I'm
looking
at
the
recommended
action.
What
I
would
like
to
clarify
is
that
you
are
taking
the
discretionary
input
requested
by
staff
in
their
presentation
in
identifying
it
by
code
sections
and
choosing
you
know.
One
of
those
options
is
that
correct
in
each
of
those
additional
code
sections
you
related
okay,
great
before
I
ask
for
a
second,
I
do
have
a
hand
raised
from
staff
pew.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
clarifying
comment
or
something
similar?
T
I
had
a
clarified
question
about
the
substitute
motion
with
regard
to
subsection
1940.0.
T
Oh
gosh:
nine,
zero
sub
uppercase
g,
whether
councilmember
moore
was
intending
to
add
option
a
or
option
b
to
that
one.
She
did
not
clarify
in
her
motion
yeah.
That's.
A
Correct,
thank
you
so
zero
nine
zero
and
that
would
be
okay,
hey,
okay,
so
that
is
so
amended.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
pew
and
thank
you
councillor,
moore
I'll,
go
ahead
and
second
that
motion,
and
so
we
do
have
a
motion
on
the
table.
Along
with
a
substitute
motion.
A
I
don't
see,
I
do
see
a
hand
raise
now.
So
let's
go
to
vice
mayor
ciao,
followed
by
council
member
way
at
this
point,
if
we
were
to
vote
it
would
be
on
the
substitute
motion
and
then
subsequently,
if
that
were
not
to
pass,
it
would
be
on
the
original
motion
set
on
the
table,
and
I
do
remind
everyone
that
we
will
need
to
ask
the
city
clerk
to
conduct
the
first
and
only
reading
of
this
prior
to
taking
a
vote.
So
vice
mayor
ciao,
followed
by
council
member
way.
L
Okay,
so
first
a
comment:
I
envisioned
that
this
kind
of
duplex
a
lot
split
through
discretionary
approval,
is
a
good
low
impact
method
for
a
city
like
cupertino
to
increase
the
number
of
units.
L
L
So
what
we
should
allow
under
this
pathway,
this
the
intent-
is
to
provide
affordable,
more
affordable
housing.
So
we
should
not
that's
that's
the
reason
I
propose
not
to
allow
unit
primary
on
unit
to
exceed
2000
square
foot
or
maybe
2500
square
foot,
so
there
is
upper
limit.
The
reason
is,
someone
could
be
proposing
a
mansion
with
four
feet
set
back
through
this
process
when
they
could
have
built
just
a
smaller,
reasonable
size
unit
through
the
risk
discretionary
process,
but
they
would
they
could
maximize
there's.
L
I
don't
want
people
to
abuse
this
process
to
build
a
mansion.
So
if
someone
wants
to
use
the
ministry
process
to
provide
less
parking,
then
they
should
there
should
be
an
upper
limit
on
the
size
of
the
unit.
They
could
build
so
maybe
2000
square
feet,
maybe
2500
square
foot,
but
it
shouldn't
be
four
thousand
square
feet
under
this
process.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
Vice
merchant.
Your
comment
time
stands
out
one
minute.
Next,
we
have
council
member
way.
K
K
For
example,
the
19.28.5
150
the
limitation
that
sb9
duplex
unit
not
to
be
any
larger
than
200
square
feet,
bigger
than
a
common
accompanying
duplex
unit
that
limits
the
family
units
that
could
be
built
in
a
smaller
unit
could
accommodate.
You
know
a
cheaper
somebody
who
can
limiting
less
rent.
You
know
we're
looking
for
families
to
build
in.
K
So
if
we
approve
this
tonight
and
then
we
have
extension
within
45
days,
and
then
we
have
10
months
to
work
on
this,
they
can
still
be
revisited
and
and
tweeted,
so
that
we
can
have
a
deeper
discussion
is
that
the
process.
Q
K
Q
Q
A
minor
correction
which
appears
on
page
495
of
the
agenda
packet,
it's
in
section
1908-30,
it's
in
the
definition
of
florida
area
number
seven
and
the
reference
the
step,
the
reference
to
the
government
code.
There
should
be
section
5852.21
rather
than
government
code,
section
6411.7,
and
that
relates
to
the
inclusion
of
basements
in
floor
area.
So
it's
relevant
to
our
discussion
and
obviously
we
want
to
get
it
right.
So
I
would
request
that
both
movements
include
that
additional
change
in
their
motion.
A
Okay,
thank
you
chris.
So
let
me
go
back
to
the
original
movement
of
the
movement
of
the
first
motion.
Vice
mayor
chow,
do
you
accept
that
clerical
correction
to
the
motion
that
you
made
council
member
willie?
Do
you
accept
that.
C
A
Senator
okay
and
on
to
the
substitute
motion,
councilmember
moore:
do
you
accept
that
correction
from
from
our
city
attorney.
M
A
Okay
and
as
the
seconder
of
the
substitute
motion,
I
also
accept
okay,
so
we
have
a
corrected
substitute
motion
and
motion
on
the
table.
Next,
we
have
okay,
I'm
going
to
ask.
I
don't
know
how
our
items
are
getting
promoted
from
from
an
attendee
to
to
a
participant,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
our
participants
that
are
not
attendees.
On
this
current
item
back
to
attendees,
I
promise
you.
A
I
will
move
you
back
when
your
item
is
here,
so
thank
you
very
much
and
just
to
everyone
just
make
sure
you
mute
your
your
your
audio
here.
Okay,
so
I
have
vice
mayor
chow
vice
mayor
ciao,
as
I
stated
previously,
you
have
about
a
minute
of
comment,
time
left
and
then
we'll
visit,
and
then
council
member
willie
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
comment
yet
on
these
motions.
So
let's
go
to
council
member
willie.
First
councilmember
willie.
J
Yeah,
I
I
think
I'm
a
little
confu
concerned
if
we
were
to
say
basements
are
allowed
without
a
limit
on
it.
I
am
concerned
that
when
we
tried
to
tweak-
and
we
were
to
say
well
we're
only
going
to
allow
basements
up
to
150
square
feet
that
it
would
be
similar
to
like
down
zoning
you've
already
approved
basements
with
no
limit,
so
they
could
even
be
bigger
than
the
house
structure.
A
L
Yeah,
the
reason
I
don't
want
basement
is
through
the
ministry
of
process.
Is
we
don't
have
that
many
development
with
basement?
So
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
sufficient
objective
standard
to
consider
taking
into
account
all
the
condition
we
need
to
consider
for
basement.
So
I
would
rather
not
allow
that
for
minister
approval
and
the
second
you
know
incred
answering
to
how
consummate
berhan's
question
current
ordnance
actually
allow
one
primary
unit
and
one
apu-
that's
smaller.
A
President,
okay,
let's
go
ahead,
you
you've
stated
your
comment
and
request:
let's
go
on
to
councilmember
moore.
M
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
was
hoping
that
pew
could
go
over
the
the
objective
standards
that
we
have
for
the
basements
and
also,
I
think
it's
an
important
point
that
they're
being
considered
with
regards
to
the
floor
area
ratio,
because
you
can
actually
limit
the
visual
impact
of
the
structure
if
I'm
understanding
that
correctly
by
including
the
basements.
So
I'd
like
to
hear
more
more
about
that
and
where
the
the
positive
reasons
why
we
would
want
to
include
this.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you,
councilmember
moore,
I'm
happy
to
answer
that,
so
there
are
with
regard
to
basements.
There
are
certain
things
that
we're
proposing
right
now.
One
of
the
things
is
that
we're
proposing
that
there
be
a
setback
required
for
the
basement
itself,
which
we
do
not
have
for
our
discretionary
projects.
At
this
point,
we
are
requiring
that
light
wells
be
not
located
within
any
of
those
setback
areas.
We
are
also
requiring
that
the
basement
far
be
included
in
the
fdr
for
the
total
development
on
the
property.
T
T
We
are
also
requiring
that
all
the
exit,
egress
requirements
being
met
by
windows
as
a
result,
the
the
light
wells
themselves
would
be
smaller
and
if
a
unit
was
proposed
in
the
basement
itself,
it
would
be
allowed
one
exit
door
which
would
allow
the
light
wells
to
be
much
smaller
than
they
are
under
our
discretionary
processes
as
well,
and,
additionally,
we're
requiring
the
light
wells
be
screened,
which
is
an
existing
requirement
already
and,
and
things
like
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Councilman
moore,
your
deliberative
time
stands
at
approximately
a
minute.
A
little
bit
more.
I
see
vice
mayor
chow
has
a
hand
raised,
as
does
council
member
way,
let
me
go
to
council
member
way.
First,
council
member,
you
have
approximately
a
minute
and
a
half
left.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
this
is
just
a
quick
reply.
What
I
meant
is
when
the
lot
is
spread.
We
have
two
duplexes
made
not
about
adus,
that
the
duplex,
if
we
are
limited
to
200
square
feet
one
size
bigger,
then
we
are
really
limiting
the
family
size.
So
I
would
hope
that
when
we
doing
the
ten
months
period,
we
can
revisit
this.
K
It's
about
the
duplexes
that
we're
building
not
about
us
a
home
deck
with
the
adu,
so
that
that's
what
I,
until,
according
to
my
understanding,
we
can
revisit
this
during
the
ten
months
period.
Right.
Q
A
Thank
you
councilmember
way,
and
so
finally,
we
do
have
vice
mayor
child
your
hand
is
still
raised.
Is
that
residual
or
does
it
make
a
final
comment
in
your
final
half
so.
A
Let's
let
our
movement
for
the
substitute
motion.
M
T
L
Okay,
so
could
I
attempt
a
sub
amendment
to
put
an
upper
limit
on
the
unit
size
of,
say,
2500
square
foot.
L
A
A
friendly
amendment
on
the
substitute
motion:
okay,
council
member
moore,
will
you
accept
that
friendly
amendment
made
by
vice
mayor
chao.
M
I
need
to
defer
to
pew
on
this
because
I
want
to
know
where
you
could
get
to
the
something
greater
than
2500
square
feet
in
a
unit.
The
way
things
are
written
right
now.
T
So
I
will
say
this:
if
there
is
a
very
large
resident
hillside
lot
and
where
you
could
end
up
building,
I
have
I'm
not
having
to
think
this
through
on
the
spot
yeah.
I
know.
T
Might
be
a
few
lots
and
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
imagine
in
my
head
where
they
are.
There
are
some
lots,
maybe
on
lindy
lane
or
somewhere
over
there,
which
are
zoned
r1,
which
are
about
40
000
square
feet.
Those
lots
could
be
allowed
a
45
far
which
would
be
about
you
know:
16
000,
16,
000
square
feet.
Yes,
and
as
a
result,
you
could
build
rather
large
homes
there
and
you
could
get
units
that
are
bigger
than
2500
square
feet,
but
those
would
be
few
and
far
in
between.
T
We
do
not
have
very
many
lots
that
would
get
up
to
units
that
are
that
large.
But,
yes,
it
is
possible.
M
Okay,
so
you
could
potentially
have
some
duplexes
that
were
4
000
square
feet
apiece,
but
that
would
be
what
the
the
rules
would
be,
allowing
because
the
lot
is
so
big.
So
no,
I
don't
accept
the
friendly
amendment
if,
if
builders
want
to
make
them
that
big,
if
their
lot
is
that
large,
then
then
they
they
can
do
that.
I
don't
you
don't
have
to
be
four
feet.
Set
back.
You'd
have
to
give
me
a
different
number.
M
No,
the
setbacks
are
different
up
on
the
hillsides,
though,
with
the
way
that's
the
way
things
end
up.
Being,
I
think
and
np
would
have
to
describe
it.
You
know.
D
G
A
E
A
That
wasn't
okay
go
ahead
and
speak
that
wasn't.
Okay,
let
me
go
ahead
and
get
a
check
in
as
to
where
we
are
right
now.
So
we
have
substitute
motion
on
the
table.
Vice
mayor,
you
did
attempt
to
make
a
friendly
amendment.
Did
you
have
another
attempt
at
a
friendly
amendment
before
I
you
know?
I
tried
to
close
this
and
ask
for
a
vote
on
the
substitute
motion.
A
J
Yeah,
I'm
still
a
little
concerned
that
if
we
open
the
door
to
the
basements
well,
I
do
like
if
more
of
the
structure
is
below
ground
and
it's
less
visual
up
above.
But
I
am
concerned
that
if
we
open
the
door
for
the
basement
tonight,
we
cannot
close
the
door
on
basements
when
we
go
to
tweak
it
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
that.
I
mean
I
like
the
concept,
but
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
really
do
have
the
basement
details
defined.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
that
comment.
Councilmember
willie!
I
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
ask
for
a
vote
on
the
substitute
motion
at
this
point.
I
haven't
made
comments
on
this,
but
I
will
echo
the
thanks
to
city
staff.
I
think
a
lot
of
work
has
been
put
into
this.
I
think
it
makes
it
better
for
not
just
our
community
but
for
the
delivery
of
effective
additional
housing
that
is
conceitedly
much
needed.
A
You
know
a
lot
of
thought
went
into
it
and
I
do
ask
that
our
our
our
community
and
council,
you
know,
focus
on
the
parts
of
it
that
we
have
done
very
successfully
okay.
So,
madam
city
clerk,
if
you
could
please
conduct
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
the
first
and
only
reading
of
this
ordinance
with
the
stipulation
that
any
modifications
are
incorporated
that
have
been
put
into
the
motion
in
the
substitute
motion.
B
Point:
19.28.110:
zero
point:
zero,
five,
zero.
Nineteen
point:
four:
zero
point:
zero:
six,
zero;
nineteen
point:
four:
zero
point:
zero,
nine,
zero
and
nineteen
point
one
one:
two
point:
zero:
six:
zero
to
adopt
standards
for
ministerial
approval
of
duplexes
and
lot
splits
in
single-family
residence
districts.
A
Thank
you,
madam
city
clerk,
and,
at
this
point
I'll
just
make
a
quick
check
in
with
our
city
attorney.
Chris.
Are
we
fine
to
proceed
with
a
vote
on
the
substitute
motion
and
the
motion
given
that,
first
and
only
reading
of
the
urgency
ordinance?
A
A
Correct
okay,
so
madam
city
clerk,
I
will
ask
at
this
point
that
you
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
substitute
motion.
L
C
L
Okay,
no.
A
B
And
I
believe,
since
this
is
an
emergency
ordinance,
the
motion
fails
with
way
and
willie
boateng,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
willian
ciao
voting.
No,
then
city
attorney
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
A
A
Thank
you
kirsten,
thank
you,
chris.
So
the
motion,
the
substitute
motion
does
not
pass.
That
leaves
us
with
the
motion
that
was
originally
placed
on
the
table.
A
super
majority
is,
is
required
for
an
emergency
ordinance
so
that
that
would
have
required
four
votes.
So
let
us
go
ahead
and
vote
on
the
motion
that
was
brought
forth
by
the
vice
mayor
and
seconded
by
council
member
willie,
madam
city
clerk,
would
you
please
conduct
the
roll
call
vote
for
that
motion.
K
K
A
Okay,
let's,
let's
stop
sharing.
B
J
L
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
at
this
point.
We're
at
9
43.,
let's
reconvene
at
9.50,
I
understand
so
there
was
direction
to
staff
that
was
requested
by
the
vice
mayor
vice
mayor.
Would
you
like
to
make
that
motion
at
this
time.
L
A
L
I'd
like
to
propose
moved
with
direction
to
staff,
to
come
back
with
a
recommendation
on
possible
expiration
date
for
a
lot
of
split
loaning.
That
might
be
one
year
from
the
date
of
the
approval,
so
that
they
should
propose
a
project
before
one
year.
L
The
site
notice
should
be
clear
that
there
is
no
appeal
for
this
project
and
the
notice
should
include
the
number
of
units
proposed,
including
primary
and
eight
use
on-site
and
the
number
of
on-site
parking
spaces
and,
and
then
there's
I'd
like
staff
to
come
back
with
recommendation
on
how
to
ensure
that
the
site
construction
is
is
started
within
a
specified
time,
say
six
months
and
then
occupancy
permits
should
be
pulled
within
a
specified
time,
say
12
months
or
18
months,
and
then
clarify
that.
L
How
would
the
non-conforming
conditions
be
reviewed
so
that,
let's
drop
that
I'm
okay
with
that
and
then
another
is?
I
would
direction
on
how
staff
review
panel
might
be
considered
so
that
this
kind
of
ministry
approval
would
be
fair
and
consistent
between
staff
members
in
case
of
any
potential
human
error
or
undue
inferences
by
any
party.
A
M
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
paul,
I'm
a
little
confused
about
about
this.
This
motion
we're
asking
staff
to
go
study
other
items.
There
may
be
things
other
items
that
we
want
them
to
to
look
into
for
potential
changes
in
the
future.
M
I
could
you
explain
a
little
more
about
what
what
this
process
is,
because
it
also
seems
like
a
motion
to
make
changes
to
what
we
just
passed,
and
so
I'm
a
little
confused
about
that,
because
that
really
wasn't
part
of
the
agenda
item,
but
you
know
how
do
you
want
to
see
this
change?
Moving
forward
seems
like
an
entirely
different
issue.
A
Mayor
ciao,
well,
okay,
let
me
let
me
go
to
our
city
attorney.
First,
in
terms
of
you
know,
procedural
acceptability
is
this
something
chris
that
that
you
believe
could
be
taking
as
staff
direction
and
follow-up
within
the
confines
of
the
legal
requirements
and
the
noticing
on
this
item.
Q
A
Okay,
and
would
it
be,
would
it
would
it
cut
off
any
further
potential
follow-up
by
our
city
or
staff?
I
think
not.
A
Okay,
council,
member
more,
is
that
an
acceptable
response
to
your
concerns.
M
It's
it's
okay!
I
don't!
I
don't
really
like
this.
This
practice,
where
we
have
one
individual
saying
how
they
want
to
you,
know
direct
staff
and
and
change
things
up
and
without
having
some
some
further
discussion
about.
You
know
what
was
just
passed
and
because
it
was
a
super
majority
there's
needed
and
I'm
always
placed
first
in
in
the
voting
order
it.
M
It
leaves
me
in
a
position
where
I
need
to
gamble
essentially
to
see
something
get
passed
through
in
the
hopes
that
it
will-
and
I
I
actually
was
asking
for
something
a
little
more
lenient
and,
for
instance,
felt
that
the
the
basements
and
issue
was
held
handled
very,
very
well
by
staff,
and
it
made
perfect
sense
to
reduce
the
visual
bulk
of
the
of
the
future
projects.
So
I
was,
you
know,
not
happy
to
see
that
visual
bulk
was
increased
on
the
site
by
the
vice
mayor's
motion.
M
So
so
I
I'm
further,
I'm
not
really
pleased
with
what's
being
suggested
in
the
in
the
future,
for
the
for
the
projects
and
that
than
that
the
basements
aren't
included
in
that.
So
I
guess
I
won't
vote
for
it
and
it
has
to
do
more
with
how
this
process
is
being
done.
I
don't
find
it
very
collective
and
it
doesn't
feel
like
a
council
working
together.
It
looks
like
you
know,
one
person
going
off
with
their
individual
plan,
so,
okay.
A
Thank
you
number
more.
Let's
go
on
to
councilmember
way,
and
I
want
everyone
to
be
aware
of
the
timing
of
this.
Please
let
us
try
to
wrap
this
up
I'll.
Let
everyone
know
that
this
is
actually
not
under
the
urgency.
Ordinance
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
chris,
so
this
would
just
need
to
pass
by
simple
majority.
A
The
current
motion
is
that
correct.
That's
correct,
okay,
council
member
way,
followed
by
vice
mayor
chow.
Please
be
concise
with
your
comments.
All.
K
Right,
thank
you
mia
paul.
I
I
have
to
agree
with
councilmember
moore,
I'm
a
little
confused
on
this
motion
and
I
think
we
have
ten
and
a
half
months
to
work
on
the
ordinance
and
we
can
really
revisit
this
later.
I
I
actually
didn't
even
get
the
language
of
the
motion,
so
I
I
have
to
be
with
council
member
more.
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
confusing.
A
Okay,
thank
you
councilmember
way,
madam
city
clerk,
did
you
follow
the
and
record
the
motion
language
by
vice
mayor
show.
A
A
To
know
what
the
the
content
of
the
direction
on
the
current
motion
on
the
table
is.
B
A
So
that's
vice
mayor
start.
Stop
sharing
your
screen,
please
we'll
we'll
go
to
staff
and
the
recreation
of
your
motion.
Chris.
Please
proceed.
Q
So
so
vice
mayor
child
directed
staff
to
consider
for
the
the
permanent
ordnance
implementing
sb9
the
possible
expert,
a
possible
expiration
date
for
a
lot
split
zoning
up
to
one
year.
Q
That
staff
should
consider
recommendations
as
to
how
to
ensure
site
construction
is
started
within
a
specific
time
frame
such
as
six
months
and
opportunity
permits
are
pulled
within
a
set
time
and
also
to
provide.
A
Okay,
thank
you
city
attorney,
jensen,
and
so
vice
mayor
ciao.
You
have
the
next
hand
raised
and
we'll
follow
you
with
council
member
willie.
I
mean
again
I'm
asking
people
to
be.
You
know,
concise
and
brief
here
this
is
staff
direction
to
follow
up
for
possibilities.
Vice
mayor.
This
is
your
motion.
I
think
it's
clear
what's
on
the
table
and
so
and
same
with
councilmember
willa,
you
seconded
it
councilmember
moore
your
hand
is
back
up.
A
I
also
reiterate
my
request
to
be
concise
about
this,
so
that
we
can
take
a
take,
a
vote
on
the
motion
on
the
table
and
then
move
on
to
our
next
and
final
item
on
the
agenda.
Vice
mayor.
L
I
I'm
I'm
willing
to
reconsider,
allowing
basement
in
the
prominent
ordinance,
and
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
there
are.
L
And
then
the
things
that
I
propose
to
hear
are
things
I
consulted
with
the
staff
previously
and
the
staff
says
that
they
need
more
time
to
study
this
issue.
That's
why
I'm
giving
direction
to
get
staff
recommendation
later?
I'm
not
I'm
not
committed
to
any
of
the
time
that
I'm
proposing.
These
are
just
an
initial
idea.
J
Yeah
so
so
my
comment
is,
I
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
giving
additional
direction
to
staff
without
this
additional
direction
to
staff
staff,
I
would
think
is
simply
going
to
look
at
the
existing
items
that
are
already
in
our
ordinance
the
length
of
time
for
a
property
owner
to
have
to
come
back
with.
Something
to
me,
I
think
is
needs
consideration.
J
If
we
don't
have
any
type
of
limit,
then
essentially
all
twenty
thousand
homeowners
in
cupertino
could
immediately
send
their
lot
split
requests
into
the
city
with
no
intent
of
splitting
it
as
long
as
they're
living
in
the
structure
but
they're
going
to
sell
this
the
property
at
some
point
with
this
advantage
for
higher
prices
further
elevating
the
the
value
of
the
homes
in
in
cupertino
at
least
directing
staff
to
tell
us
can
we
put
this
time
limit
on
to
me,
sounds
like
something
that
would
help
to
prevent
the
type
of
thing
we
see
with
the
hamptons
with
marina
open-ended,
and
so
I
I
would
like
to
hear,
and
if
we
don't
put
that
in
this
motion,
I
don't
see
that
staff
is
going
to
look
into
it
for
us.
M
Councilmember
moore,
okay,
thank
you,
mayor
paul.
M
I
was
wondering
if
we
couldn't
just
schedule
a
study
session
in
six
months
regarding
potential
amendments
to
sb9
interim
ordinance
that
we
have
here
and,
and
that
way
we
all
get
to
think
about
the
ordinance
and
see
how
it's
been
used
and
what
other
cities
have
implemented,
see
what
projects
have
have
been
put
into
the
pipeline
and
we
all
get
a
chance
to
provide
our
input
and
you
know,
have
equal
footing
on
on
what
we'd
like
to
see
changed
and
have
a
study
session
where
we
get
to.
A
Okay,
well,
you
know
I'll
go
off
of
that
comment.
I
think
that's
actually
a
very
reasonable
comment,
and
if
you
wanted
to
make
that
into
a
substitute
motion,
I
would
support
it
with
a
second.
You
know,
and,
and
staff
does
have
the
foreknowledge
at
this
point-
that
this
is
the
original
motion
on
the
table
in
the
second
are
of
interest
at
least
two.
I
would
have
voted
for
the
the
original
emotion
as
well.
A
To
be
frank,
but
procedurally
what
you're
describing
not
only
I
think
is,
is
more
more
fair
and
more.
You
know
step
wise,
but
also
it
sends
a
signal
to
the
outside
world
that
we're
trying
to
work
with
the
you
know.
Other
cities,
as
well
as
the
you
know,
the
the
original
people
that
that
set
this
forth
without
a
whole
lot
of
assistance.
Frankly,
in
terms
of
the
practicalities
of
getting
this
implemented,
so
councilmember
moore,
did
you
want
to
make
that
substitute
emotion
at
this
point.
M
Yes,
absolutely
correct
me
if
you
want,
you
know
a
different
time
period
other
than
the
six
months,
but
I
I
move
that
we
conduct
a
study
session
within
six
months
regarding
potential
amendments
to
the
sb,
39,
sb9,
sorry,
interim
ordinance
and
and
well.
I
don't
think
I
need
to
say
the
rest
of
it
for
the
for
the
logic
behind
it,
just
that
we
conduct
a
study
session
within
six
months.
Okay,.
A
Councilmember
moore
moves
that
we
conduct
an
sb9
related
study
session
within
six
months
to
follow
up
on
the
discussion
that
we're
having
here
this
evening,
I'll
go
ahead
and
second
substitute
motion.
I
see
a
new
hand
was
raised
by
councilmember
way,
but
councilmember
willy
you
have
a
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
comment
with
regard
to
this
item?
Yeah.
J
A
question
for
the
city
attorney:
on
the
one
hand,
you
know
the
time
period
item
is
not
in
the
original
motion
that
we
passed
tonight.
J
A
A
Well,
let
me
see
what
you
know,
chris
has
to
say
in
his
interpretation
and
information
that
he
can
provide.
Q
Yeah,
no,
I
I
think
I
think
I
think
either
way
we
would.
You
know
we
would
continue
to
study
the
viability
of
of
these
proposals.
You
know
either
as
in
response
to
the
substitution,
promotion
or
anticipation
of
a
study
session,
where
you
know,
we'd
expect
them
to
come
up
again.
L
I'm
quite
confused,
I
think,
every
time
we
have
emotion,
it's
of
course
one
person
who
put
the
motion
forward,
it
doesn't
mean
a
person
is
trying
to
dictate
anything
and
then,
of
course,
other
council
members
are
welcome
to
amend
the
motion
to
for
additional
comments,
and
what
I'm
proposing
here
is
within
the
scope
of
this
item
and
I
consulted
with
ctr
attorney
beforehand
that
these
items
he
could
he
doesn't
have
enough
information
to
make
a
recommendation
for
today.
That
and
other
council
members
are
welcome
to
add
your
ideas.
L
For
example,
are
you
not
agreeing
that
we
should
have
an
expiration
date
for
a
lot
split
approval?
Are
you
not
agreeing
that
we
should
have
a
deadline
for
to
start
construction
and
the
poor
occupancy
permit,
and
are
you
for
this
kind
of
ministry
of
project,
because
even
sp
35
has
an
expiration
date
for
them?
You
know.
L
A
Okay:
okay,
thank
you.
Vice
mayor
ciao,
you've
made
your
position
clear
on
this.
A
It
is
within
six
months.
Vice
versa
is
what
the
motion
states,
the
substitute
motion,
okay
and
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
that
direction
from
our
city
attorney
that
the
suggestions
will
be
encapsulated.
If
this
substitute
motion
passes
with
the
understanding
that
we'll
try
to
bring
this
a
bit
more
timely
than
the
than
the
six
months
that
have
been
identified
as
an
outside
period
of
time,
so,
madam
city
clerk,
would
you
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
substitute
motion.
B
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk
and
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
let's
take
a
a
break
until
10
10.,
as
promised
I'll
I'll
bring
back
our
people
for
item
number
24
into
the
zoom
mode
for
participants,
we'll
see
a
1010
and
we'll
close
out
the
agenda
with
item
number
24.
thanks
very
much.