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Coverage of the February 14, 2023 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
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Let
me
go
to
the
participants
here:
okay
and
see.
If
anybody
wishes
to
speak
on
the
election,
nobody
has
their
hands
raised
there.
So
go
ahead.
Can
we
have
the
the
staff
report
first,
or
should
we
do
the
I?
Guess
let's
do
the
election
first,
because
there
is,
the
staff
report
is
only
for
the
committee
assignments,
so
great,
so
I
will
open
nominations
first
for
the
chair,
which
anybody
want
to
nominate
anyone.
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Good
evening,
members
of
the
commission
I
just
this-
is
the
portion
of
the
staff
report.
That's
focused
on
the
committee
appointees
to
what
would
be
the
environmental
Review
Committee
and
the
design
Review
Committee,
your
the
the
chair
of
the
commission
of
the
Planning
Commission,
has
typically
served
on
the
environmental
Review
Committee,
though
the
Planning
Commission
has
the
opportunity
to
appoint
another
member.
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The
DRC,
the
vice
chair,
has
typically
served
on
that
as
well
as
another
member
of
the
Planning
Commission.
That
would
be
chosen
by
the
commission.
So
those
are
the
committee
appointments
that
would
be
before
you
tonight.
If
you
have
any
other
questions
of
Staff,
we
could
be
happy
to
answer
those
okay.
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There
is
an
upcoming
agenda
item
where
both
of
these
committee's
responsibilities-
yes,
could
be,
essentially
the
Committees
would
be
eliminated
and
their
responsibilities
would
be
transferred
either
to
the
Planning,
Commission
or
staff.
So
there
is
the
possibility
that
both
the
ERC
and
the
DRC
would
not
be
continuing
for
much
longer.
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Thank
you,
chair
sharp
hi,
I'm,
Jennifer
Griffin,
and
the
fact
that
you
all
brought
up
the
ERC
and
DRC
I
really
hope
that
we're
not
going
to
get
rid
of
those
I
they've,
been
around
the
entire
time.
I've
been
going
to
City
Council
meetings,
which
was
23
years
and
I'm
a
little
bit
nervous
about
the
new
booklet
like
getting
rid
of
being
able
to
pull
from
consent,
calendar
limiting
the
public
and
what
they
can
say
and
then
I'll,
but
now
we're
trying
to
take
away
the
ERC
and
DRC
okay,
I
I
I'm.
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And
I
really
feel
like
I
I,
just
I
feel
like
all
of
a
sudden
everybody's,
taking
away
everything
in
California.
We
can't
Senator
weiner
seems
to
be
running
the
state.
That's
we
don't
hear
from
our
governor.
We
just
hear
from
Senator
weiner
saying
how
he's
going
to
take
away
and
make
all
the
decisions
and
I
that's
why
I'm
feeling
really
sensitive
about
what's
happening
with
our
with
the
Public's
access
to
things?
I,
really
don't
want
the
ERC
and
DRC
to
go
away.
We
haven't
been
able
to
have
public
vetting
on
that.
L
The
items
about
the
consent
calendar
to
me
is
really
really
threatening
I
I
I.
Really
it's
it's
scary
to
me.
It's
terrifying
and
I.
I,
really
I'm
really
scared,
what's
happening
with
our
state,
with
with
some
of
the
politicians
that
are
just
so
anti
people
in
California
that
you
know
they,
they
say
nasty
things
about
people
who
live
in
cities.
L
You
know
they're
they're
people
that
were
elected,
other
people,
elected
them
in
other
cities,
but
yet
they're
coming
back
and
saying
nasty
things
about
people
in
our
city
and
where,
where
my
relatives
live
and
it's
almost
like,
they
were
thinking
they
were
taking
over
the
state
and
and
now
we're
losing
our
liberties
and
our
own
City,
so
I
feel
like
in
some
ways.
This
whole
manual
thing
is:
is
an
Outreach
of
Senator
weiner
his
hand
coming
down
and
saying
that
the
public
has
no
right
to
speak.
L
I'm,
sorry,
I
know
he
has
nothing
to
do
what
happens
in
Cupertino,
but
I.
Just
can't
I
I
feel
very
very
strongly
that
we
are
losing
our
liberties
and
I
do
not
want
this
to
happen
in
my
state
or
my
city,
so
I'm
I'm
being
a
really
sensitive
about
this.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Let's
hope
that
we're
not
going
down
the
road
where
we
have
we're
supposed
to
sit
here,
fat,
dumb
and
happy
and
let
people
who
weren't
even
elected
by
our
city,
tell
us
what
we're
doing
in
this
state.
It's
getting
out.
I
I
do
want
to,
and
by
the
way
to
all
of
you
here,
I'm
grateful
for
you.
Sort
of
putting
Valentine's
Day
on
hold
I
know
I'm
gonna
get
to
my
husband
as
soon
as
possible,
but
we're
here
because
it
was
scheduled
for
this
day.
So,
thanks
for
being
here
and
I
want
to
just
mention
and
give
us
a
heads
up,
please
to
all
of
you
who
may
or
may
not
know
how
involved
the
Planning
Commission
was
in.
I
I
Take
the
place
of
the
target
site:
Target
was
in
building
six,
which
was
designated
as
major
retail,
and
it
was
meant
to
be
retail,
not
restaurant,
retail
anchor.
That's
not
a
restaurant.
Now,
there's
a
push
for
a
22
000
square
feet
to
become
some
big
entertainment
hub
and
I.
Don't
think
the
people
at
the
Metropolitan
have
been
noticed
of
this.
No
one
has
it's
just
kind
of
happening
behind
the
scenes
for
over
a
year.
So
please.
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Thank
you,
Commissioners
I
wish
to
congratulate
all
of
you
on
the
new
Planning
Commission
welcome
to
New
Commissioners
that
have
come
on
board.
Commissioner
Livescore,
commissioner
Paul
and
I
want
to
congratulate
the
chair
and
vice
chair
for
being
re-nominated
I
wish
to
bring
to
your
attention
that
the
the
decision
that
you
will
approved
to
to
deny
the
signage
on
I-280
for
the
public
storage
was
appealed
at
city
council.
As
you
may
have
heard,
some
of
you
may
have
attended
and
was
approved
at
city
council.
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Meeting
I
would
like
for
each
of
those
that
were
on
the
prior
Planning
Commission,
to
kindly
write
in
to
the
city
council,
explaining
a
rationale
for
why
that
was
denied
and
I
would
further
like
you
to
in
White
City
Council,
to
join
you
in
a
walkthrough
of
the
facility
at
night,
so
that
you
may
show
them
in
person
the
conditions
there
and
how
a
signage
that
is
eliminated
would
be
out
of
place
for
the
area.
I
have
personally
got
friends
of
mine.
M
They
happen
to
be
parents
of
my
kids
classmate
who
live
with
their
bedroom
facing
that
area
and
they're
already
complaining.
They
have
a
kindergartner
and
a
second
grader
who
can't
go
to
bed
because
those
bright
white
lights
from
the
public
store
are
hitting
their
bedroom
and
even
if
the
blinds
close,
it
is
way
too
bright.
They
were
not
even
aware
that
the
assignment
is
coming
up
and
I
invite
you
to
join
me
in
visiting
the
area
and
bringing
the
council
with
you
and
overriding
the
override
that
was
done
of
your
decision.
M
It
is
not
fair
to
the
residents
of
the
condo
Community
there
that
those
bright
white
lights
stay
on
till
11
pm
when
kids
should
be
in
bed
by
nine
or
sooner.
It
is
not
fair
that
our
community
of
residents
are
being
overridden
and
I,
encourage
all
of
you
to
do
the
right
thing
and
preserve
the
beauty
and
Landscaping
of
I-280
and
not
allow
for
a
president
to
be
set
to
have
signage
or
even
those
bright
white
lights
to
disturb
the
wildlife
and
the
beautiful
nature
that
we
have
around
here.
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Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
point
out
also
the
the
Planning
Commission
doesn't
have
any.
You
know
power
to
override
the
decision,
the
decision
of
the
city
council
that
would
have
to
be
someone
that
files
for
a
reconsideration
and
that's
the
way
that
would
work.
Okay.
Next,
we
have
Rhoda
fry
welcome,
Rhoda.
N
But
regarding
Stan's
comments,
I
will
be
filing
for
reconsideration
and
you
know
we're
looking
at
165
square
feet
of
eliminated
signage
on
a
1,
000
square
foot
orange
background.
It's
just
not
acceptable,
and
if
we
had
an
active
design,
Review
Committee
that
public
storage
building
would
not
have
been
built.
Did
you
know
that
in
2006
a
new
public
storage
building
had
been
proposed?
Where
that
new
one
is
today,
the
planning
department
recommended
against
it
in
the
Planning
Commission
agreed
that
building
would
have
had
three
stories
and
155
000
square
feet.
N
N
New
developments
should
protect
residents
from
noise
traffic,
light
and
Visually
intrusive
effects.
Finally,
with
respect
to
signage
Outdoor,
Advertising
Signs
shall
minimize
traffic
hazards
and
shall
positively
affect
the
general
appearance
of
the
neighborhood
and
harmonize
with
adjacent
development.
How
do
you
all
think
it
turned
out?
How
do
you
all
think
it
turned
out?
N
Finally,
I
don't
believe
that
this
building
should
have
been
have
been
categorically
exempt
from
sequa
Class
32
exemption
is
not
available
of
the
project,
and
successive
projects
of
the
same
type
in
the
same
place
will
result
in
cumulative
impacts,
which
it
absolutely
positively
does.
Even
the
denial
of
the
smaller
building
proposal
mentioned
an
unacceptable
intensification
of
use
that
failed
to
promote
our
general
plans
policies.
N
As
you
know,
the
city
council
overturned
your
determination
not
to
allow
the
sign
that
would
have
been
illuminated
until
11
pm
daily
I
hope
that
you
will
enjoy
me
in
convincing
the
council
to
reconsider
their
vote
moving
forward.
What
can
the
Planning
Commission
do
to
reduce
the
glare
on
neighbors
privacy
issues?
Etc
I?
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,.
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applicant
Steve
Rawlings
on
behalf
of
Chevron
stations,
location,
11010,
North,
De,
Anza,
Boulevard,
assessor,
parcel
number
309-042041
and
the
recommended
action
is
that
we
adopt
the
proposed
draft
resolution
and
finally
project
resembly
SQL
and
approve
the
conditional
use
permit.
So
may
we
have
the
staff
report
please.
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Yes,
thank
you,
chair
shark
I
will
be
turning
the
staff
presentation
over
to
associate
planning
Emmy
sugayama
I.
Also
just
wanted
to
note
that
there
were
a
couple
of
hands
up.
I
saw
that
Cyra
had
had
her
hand
up
as
well
as
the
vice
chair,
maripatla
I,
didn't
know
if
they
wanted
had
some
comments
before
we
got
into
the
project.
Oh.
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Yeah,
so
no
this
is
regarding
World
communication.
I
have
a
question:
do
you
know
my
alternate
City
attorney
a
student
attorney
I
know
one
of
the
residents
are
offered
to
set
up
a
meeting
to
meet
with
you
know
the
residents.
You
know
that
are
impacted
on
that.
So
is
there
anything
preventing
us?
You
know
in
engaging
on
that.
I
know
it's
a
decision.
That's
you
know
been
done
at
the
city
council
level
and
then
also
the
other
residents
spoke
about
no
sum
up
here.
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Yes,
Inky
share
sharp
me
sugama
planning
staff
and
I'm
here
today
to
discuss
a
request
by
Chevron
stations
for
our
conditional
use.
Permit
the
project
property
is
located
in
the
Northeast
quadrant
of
the
intersection
of
North
De
Anza
Boulevard
and
Homestead
Road
on
the
Northern
boundary
of
the
city,
abutting,
the
City
of
Sunnyvale
and
the
property
is
within
the
planned.
General
commercial
zoning
District,
the
applicant
Chevron
stations,
is
requesting
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
concurrent
sale
of
alcohol
and
gasoline
at
an
existing
Chevron
gas
station.
O
As
a
bit
of
background
operations
for
this
gas
station
were
originally
approved
in
1991,
through
a
use
permit
that
allowed
for
fuel
stations,
a
mini
market
and
an
attached
drive-through
car
wash.
The
current
and
allowable
hours
of
operation
are
from
6
a.m
to
11
pm,
and
this
request
does
not
include
any
exterior
modifications
to
this
existing
station.
O
Per
the
city's
Municipal
Code,
a
request
for
the
concurrent
sale
of
alcohol
and
gasoline
must
be
allowed
through
a
conditional
use
permit
to
be
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
Each
operation
must
follow
these
standards
outlined
here.
Staff
has
found
that
the
proposed
operations
will
meet
each
of
these
requirements
and
that
conditions
have
been
included
in
the
resolution
to
ensure
consistent
operation.
O
This
chart
just
outlines
the
locations
that
the
city
has
previously
approved
for
concurrent
sale
of
alcohol
and
gasoline,
with
the
most
recent
being
the
approval
on
South
De
Anza
Boulevard
in
2012..
The
city
has
not
seen
any
significant
enforcement
issues
associated
with
these
gas
stations
or
their
sales
of
alcohol.
O
When
considering
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
concurrent
sale
of
alcohol
and
gasoline,
it
must
be
found
that
the
new
use
will
not
be
detrimental
to
property
or
improvements
in
the
vicinity
of
the
project
or
to
the
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare.
Additionally,
it
must
be
found
that
the
conduct
of
the
proposed
use
will
not
be
will
be
consistent
with
the
city's
General
plan.
O
Their
zoning
regulations,
as
well
as
be
consistent
and
compliant
with
Ziploc
staff,
has
made
these
findings
as
outlined
in
the
draft
resolution,
and
with
that
staff
recommends
that
your
commission
adopt
the
proposed
draft
resolution
to
find
that
the
project
is
exempt
from
SQL
and
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit.
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terrific
thank
you
hey
good
evening.
My
name
is
Steve
Rawlings
I'm
here
this
evening
on
behalf
of
Chevron
Corporation.
Joining
me
this
evening
are
several
members
of
the
management
team
for
Chevron
Brennan
Beatty,
who
is
the
vice
president
of
in
charge
of
merchandising
as
well
as
Chelsea
Maloney,
who
is
also
works
in
the
merchandising
side
and
then
Eric,
Aranda
and
Mari
belamonte
that
are
work
on
permits
and
Licensing
and
they're
obviously
available
for
any
questions
that
anybody
might
have
I
I
wanted
to
just
keep
my
comments
brief.
P
This
station
has
been
owned
and
operated
by
Chevron
Corporation
since
the
mid
90s
and
they
have
been
selling
beer
and
wine
there
at
this
location
since
1995..
The
request
that
is
before
you
this
evening
is
so
that
we
could
add
distilled
spirits
to
the
inventory
of
which
would
be
stored
in
the
behind
our
cash
registers.
P
We
have
Chevron
operates
over
300
gas
stations
and
many
markets
throughout
the
state
of
California,
with
about
half
of
these
selling
alcohol
and
I
can
honestly
say
that
they
have
a
very,
very
good
track
record
in
of
not
being
any
kind
of
public
safety
issue
for
any
of
the
communities
that
they
sell
alcohol
in.
So
with
that
we're
available
for
any
any
questions
that
anybody
has
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
B
L
Thank
you,
chair
I,
actually
go
to
this
station.
Quite
a
lot:
I
didn't
okay,
I,
I,
guess,
I
had
didn't
understand
the
question.
I
I
thought
they
were
asking
to
get
permits
to
sell
alcohol
and
wine
I
apologize
if
I,
if
if
I,
was
incorrect
and
that
if
they
already
are
selling
this
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
hard
liquor
is,
that
they're
going
to
be
selling
and
in
terms
of
I,
can
understand
beer
and
wine.
L
Okay,
that
that's
you
know,
people
buy
that
all
the
time
you
know
yesterday
with
the
Super
Bowl
Etc,
but
I'll
tell
you
right
now
that
if
you
know
I
go
in
there
quite
often
to
pick
up
things,
you
know
heading
toward
El
Camino,
whatever
I'm.
If
and
they
do
have
a
regular
food
items
in
there,
I
would
feel
a
little
funny
knowing
now
that
they
had
harder
alcohol
in
there.
Because-
and
that's
you
know,
that's
just
in
terms
of
shopping
issues,
you
you're
running
the
risk
that
somebody,
you
know
nobody's.
L
L
Chevron's
a
good
station
I'm
glad
it's
there,
but
I
will
feel
funny,
knowing
that
they've
got
hard
liquor
in
there,
because
you've
also
got
access
to
280
there
immediately,
which
means,
if
you've
got
to
hold
up
somebody's,
got
an
immediate
access
at
280..
So
I'm
just
throwing
this
out
there
that
beer
and
wine
are
one
thing.
L
But
if
we're
going
to
be
having
hard
alcohol,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
appropriate
actions
are
taken,
that
you're
not
going
to
have
people
flying
in
there
for
a
hold
up
and
then
compromise
the
people
that
are
just
buying
gas
I.
So
in
that
regard,
if,
if
we're
going
to
be
doing
this,
let's
make
sure
that
there
are
parking
places
in
front
of
the
store
so
that
someone
coming
in
that
is
going
to
be
purchasing
things
like
alcohol
liquor.
Etc
have
a
place
to
park
work,
they
can
come
in
there.
L
You
know,
go
in
and
you're
not
going
to
have
people
that
are
just
coming
into
the
Bays
to
park
and
then
go
purchase
hard
liquor
in
the
store
hold
up
the
gas
problem,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
so
I
I
understand
I
I'm
sensitive.
That
sales
are
very
you,
know
important
to
Chevron
mini
Marts
Etc,
but
I
just
would
be
a
little
bit
concerned
about
what
can
you
explain
what
the
hard
liquor
is
and
who
would
be
buying?
This
thank.
I
I
I
It
doesn't
feel
right
to
me,
but
I
have
heard
over
and
over
there's
no
reason
that
you
should
assume
that
whoever's
driving
is
gonna
fire
Fifth
and
guzzle
it
down
before
they
take
off.
Why
promote
it?
Why
I
just
wonder
why
other
than
profits-
and
you
know
Public
Safety
to
me-
is
more
important
than
profits,
so
it
seems
inappropriate,
but
I
know
it's
done
so
I'm,
not
sure
how
to
voice
my
concerns
properly.
N
N
The
only
reason
why
the
applicant
would
be
applying
for
this
would
be
to
intensify
their
business.
That's
why
they're
bringing
it
forward
so
to
say
that
it
wouldn't
intensify
that
just
that
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
really
cut
the
mustard.
For
me,
you
know.
In
what
way
does
this
you
know
benefit
the
fabric
of
our
community
and
because
this
has
been
brought
forward
to
you
to
this
body
this
evening?
That
means
that
you
have
a
discretion
to
say
what
do
you
want
our
community
to
look
like,
and
you
know?
N
Sometimes
you
might
go
to
a
store.
You
know
you
go
into
the
Mini
Mart
or
whatever
to
buy
a
Band-Aid,
and
it's
like
oh
cool.
There's,
some
candy
bars
there,
I
guess:
I'll
have
a
candy
bar
that
looks
pretty
good,
even
though
I'm
on
a
diet
right
and
so
making
that
analogy.
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
to
have
hard
liquor
in
in
the
gas
station
and-
and
you
know
so
you
just
can't
we
we
shouldn't-
we
just
shouldn't,
have
it
there
and
I
wish
I
had
been
able
to
prepare
my
comments
later.
B
P
P
What's
driving,
this
is
actually
there
are
pre-made
cans
that
that
do
used
alcoholic
beverages
you
can
buy.
You
know
like
a
margarita
in
a
can
or
a
Paloma
or
things
along
those
lines
that
are
actually
made
with
distilled
Spirits
they're
quite
watered
down
when
they
are
in
one
of
these
pre-made
products.
But
that's
the
that's
the
driver
for
the
request.
We
we
get
constant
customer
requests
for
this
type
of
product.
P
You
know
Beverages,
and
so
that's
and
and
the
area
that
we
are
looking
to
display.
This
in
is
literally
a
about
a
four
foot
shelf
that
is
behind
the
cashier.
So
we
do
keep
it
away
from
customers
access
to
that.
So
when
they
do
request
that
product
we
do
have
to
physically
get
it
off
the
shelf
and
and
ring
it
up
after
we've
done
a
proper
ID
check.
P
We
always
do
have
two
two
employees
on
duty
so
that
we're
able
to
have
a
lot
of
eyes
on
on
the
activity
around
there-
and
you
know
we
just
haven't-
experienced
a
lot
of
of
public
safety
issues
in
the
other
stores
that
we
have
offered
this
type
of
product
for
so
anyway.
With
that
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
on
my
team
has
anything
else
to
add,
but
that
was
that
was
what
I
wanted
to
add.
I
think
you.
B
P
B
E
P
E
Of
products
ready
to
drink
cocktails,
sorry
all
right,
ready
to
drink
cocktails
and
seltzers
kind
of
looking
at
those
are
typically
in
the
70
range
yeah
to
ten
percent
for
a
beverage
alcohol
content
just
for
the
rest
of
the
team.
And
what
expected
Revenue,
do
you
think
they'll
add
to
the
store
in
terms
of
Revenue
per
square
feet
is
that
is
that
a
big
bump,
Small
Bump,
and
how
does
that
help
with
cupertino's
tax
revenue.
P
It
incrementally
increases
the
overall
sales
by
a
couple
of
percentage
points:
I
don't
have
the
exact
dollar
figures
or
what
that
equates
to
on
a
per
square
foot
basis,
but
it
it
would
accrete
to.
We
already
do
sell
the
beer
and
wine,
but
it
would
accrete
to
a
couple
of
percentage
points
by
being
able
to
sell
the
pre-made,
hard
sells
or
seltzers,
etc,
etc.
E
A
E
J
E
It
and
then
back
to
Mr,
Rawlings
I
mean
it
when
you,
when
you
represent
your
clients
in
terms
of
you
know,
applying
for
these
kind
of
permits.
Is
that
limitation
typically
applied
to
a
you
know
extra
mile
store,
or
is
that
something
that
you
know,
would
you
guys
be
comfortable
with
that
such
a
big
proposal.
P
E
P
We
I
have
not
personally
seen
that
specific
condition
of
approval
placed
on
our
requests
in
other
communities.
There
I
would
have
to
defer
to
either
Brennan
or
Chelsea.
With
regards
to
it
sounds
to
me
like
you,
you
want
to
limit
our
ability
to
be
able
to
sell
bottles.
Like
you
know,
bottles
of
vodka
and
just
restrict
us
to
like
pre-made
types
of
beverages.
The
hard
seltzers
Etc
is
that
is
that
my
understanding.
E
I,
don't
I
don't
have
an
opinion
yet
I'm
just
trying
to
see
what
the
options
are.
That's
all
so
that
my
fellow
Commissioners
can
I'm
just
asking
the
question
just
so
that
we
know
what
our
options
are
in.
Something
like
that
as
well,
so
sure.
Well,
certainly
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
the
safety
report
and
the
procedures
that
you
guys
put
into
place.
So
thank
you.
F
Okay,
thank
you
chair,
so
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
so
one
to
the
applicant
so
pardon
my
ignorance
on
alcohols.
I'm,
not
you
know,
believable
verse
within
all
the
types
of
alcohols
so
I
understand.
You
know
you
already
have
permit
to
sell
certain
type
right
now
and
you're
asking
for
you
know
extending
it
to
include
some
more
so
can
you
explain
the
difference
between
now
what
you
are
selling
today
versus
you
know,
what's
being
added
right
in
layman
terms,.
P
Certainly,
presently
we
operate
with
what
they
call
a
type
20
license
which
allows
you
the
privilege
to
be
able
to
sell
beer
and
wine
products
for
off-site
consumption
and
that
that's
what
you're
limited
to,
which
would
also
include
things
like
wine
coolers.
But
traditionally
we
just
sell.
You
know
six
and
12
packs
of
of
your
traditional
beers
and
then
750
milliliter
bottles
of
wine.
Are
our
typical
inventory
items
along
with
a
few
other
things,
but
we're
just
strictly
limited
to
those
products.
P
F
P
F
D
F
Right
and
now
now
you
said,
you
know
it's
for
off-site
consumption.
That
means
you
know,
nobody's
allowed
to
consume
these
anywhere
within
the
premise
that
is,
that
is
correct:
okay,
okay,
so
that
they
can
buy
and
take
it
wherever
they
are
going
and
but
they're
not
allowed
to
consume
there.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
clarification
and
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
to
the
staff
right.
So
usually
you
know
when
the
alcohol
and
beverage
permits
are
involved.
There
is
an
entity
called.
F
You
know,
ABC
right,
you
know,
I,
think
you
know
alcohol
beverage,
control
board
or
something
like
that,
so
they
usually
get
involved
and
you
know
and
talk
to
the
residents
nearby
and
you
know
and
and
get
their
input
and
all
that
stuff.
So
I
was
wondering
you
know
if
that
has
happened,
and
you
know
if
we
heard
from
the
residents
nearby
the
reason
I'm
asking
about
this
is
I.
F
Myself
now
went
through
this
process
when
yeah
nearby
shop-
you
know
closer
to
my
home,
you
know
applied
for
you
know:
selling
alcohol
I
went
through
that
ABC
entity
and
worked
with
them.
To
kind
of
you
know,
work
out
a
compromise
right,
so
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
if
something
like
that
happened
in
this
case
all.
O
Right
so
for
this
specific
property
I
know
that
they
have
been
in
the
process
of
obtaining
this
type
21
license
for
a
while.
The
alcohol
beverage
control
officer
who
is
working
on
the
case
has
reached
out
to
me
multiple
times
to.
Let
me
know
that
they're
in
the
process
of
being
ready
to
approve
it,
so
I
believe
that
they've
gone
through
their
noticing
prior
to
this
and
have
their
you
know
different
notices
sent
out
at
this
point
Additionally.
O
D
F
B
B
F
So
what
one
more
question
so,
do
you
know
what's
the
closest
distance
to
that
location,
to
your
school
right,
I'm
trying
to
understand
you
know
how
close
the
schools
are
and
you
know
do
we
and-
and
you
know
there
should
be
some
restrictions
around.
You
know,
what's
allowed
you
know
within
certain
distance
of
school,
which
is
you
know,
what's
not
allowed
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
You
know
there
are
any
of
those
issues
here.
O
G
Always
looking
for
that
enemy,
but
so,
first
of
all,
thank
you
to
the
staff
and
to
the
applicant
for
the
information.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
application
here
is
largely
in
compliance
with
the
guidelines
laid
out
in
the
municipal
code.
My
only
my
only
question
actually-
and
we
just
touched
on
this
briefly-
this
is
an
unusual
corner
of
Cupertino.
There
are
only
two
two
buildings.
You
know
the
gas
station
and
the
building
next
to
it,
which
are
part
of
Cupertino
and
most
of
the
surrounding
area,
is
Sunnyvale.
O
G
Yeah
so
yeah
I
expect
you
know
one
of
the
I
think
one
of
the
big
points
of
the
in
the
staff
report
was
that
I
think
it
was
only
five
percent.
Three
percent
of
the
four
areas
is
dedicated
to
alcoholic
beverages.
So
not
you
know
it's
not
a
liquor
store
that
that
was
being
opened
here
so
in
in
general.
You
know,
I
I
have
no
issues
with
the
the
opportunity
you
know.
If
this
helps
with
the
Health,
you
know
the
kind
of
economic
health
of
the
station.
G
A
Q
Q
You
know
liquor
establishment,
it's
it's
really
there
to
supplement
it.
It's
it
is
a
smaller
location
relative
to
our
average
size
stores.
We
really
enjoyed
doing
business
in
Cupertino
and
the
competition
is
really
the
cup.
Our
customers
have
have
told
us
that
they
would
look
forward
to
this
type
of
product,
and
then
the
competition
has
has
moved
in
this
direction
in
case
in
point,
the
grocery
store
and
there
a
bigger
footprint.
Q
We
do
sell
tequila
and
we
do
sell
vodka
and
we
do
sell
rum,
but
we're
not
in
every
single
flavor
and
we're
not
in
every
single
brand,
and
we
won't
be
merchandising
the
liquor
outside
from
the
cashier
area.
It
will
require
a
cashier
to
be
present
for
them
to
to
to
to
touch
the
product
they.
You
know.
Q
We
were
a
big
advocate
of
Mothers,
Against,
Drunk
Driving,
and
we
we
have
implemented
significant
training
processes
for
our
employees
and
our
staff
for
them
to
for
carting,
and
we
have
an
impeccable
record
and
we
really
think
that
we're
going
to
have
you
know
a
really
positive
foot
forward
when
we
move
to
this
this
alcohol
position.
But
again
this
isn't
going
to
Define
us.
It's
going
to
be
a
supplemental
Inc
addition
to
our
offering
and
and
and
to
go
back
to
the
sales.
You
know
Steve
is
correct.
Q
It's
it's
not
know
so
much
the
alcohol
sales,
but
it's
what
people
are
purchasing
with
the
alcohol.
It's
the
fresh
food
that
we
offer
it's
the
snacks,
it's
the
treats
it
all.
Those
collectively
add
to
our
Market
Basket
and
we're
just
trying
to
stay
relevant
and
compete
with
the
competition,
and
that's
that's
the
really
the
the
truth
of
what
why
we're
here
today.
B
B
K
Okay,
so
I
have
a
quick
question.
I
think
this
might
be
first,
the
staff
you
listed,
the
other
gas
stations
that
have
concurrent
alcohol
sales
permits
and
I
just
wanted
to
understand
are
all
of
them
type,
20
or
20
type
21.
How
many
are
type
20?
How
many
are
type
21,
because
that's
not
listed
in
the
report.
O
A
K
B
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner
list.
Before
Ray
and
Mooney
go
again,
you
know
I'd
like
to
point
out
the
corner
of
De,
Anza
and
Pacifica.
There's
a
new
get
well,
it
was
an
old
76
station
they're
rebuilding
it.
It's
looks
like
it's
ready
to
open
in
a
month
or
so,
and
they
explicitly
did
not
ask
for
a
license
to
sell
hard
liquor.
They
said
it
would
not
be
appropriate
for
the
community.
B
I
was
on
council
at
the
time
and
you
know
I
wish
there
was
something
in
between
the
type
20
and
21,
because
you
know
really
nothing
wrong
with
the
hard
seltzers,
but
I
don't
really
like
the
idea
of
selling
rum
and
whiskey
and
Tequila
at
a
gas
station
and
I
I
would
like
to
know
if
those
other
stations
are
type
20
or
21.
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
find
that
out.
O
E
Yeah
sure
I
would
suggest
that
we
get
the
data
on
where
we
are
in
terms
of
the
permits
from
ABC
I.
Think,
commissioner,
was
called
made
a
great
Point
here.
We
should
actually
have
the
information
presented
to
us
as
to
if
they're,
all
type
20
and
we
open
the
can
and
the
floodgates
on
21
every
other
gas
station
is
going
to
want
to
do
the
same.
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
impact
is
on
the
community.
They'll
still
have
to
apply
this.
Let's
go
to
the
ABC
process.
E
Mr
Wallings
will
be
happily
employed
amount
of
process,
but
we
should
at
least
find
out
that
information
before
we
make
a
decision
I
think
it's
kind
of
crucial
to
do
that.
I
want
to
make
a
side
commentary.
That's
related
to
that
I
think
it's
wonderful
that
we
are
very
business
friendly
to
a
lot
of
folks
in
our
in
our
community.
E
You
know
sometimes
we're
very
business
friendly
and
I.
Think
like
we
should
have
this
information
available
before
we
make
a
decision.
I
hope
we
are
this
residence
friendly
when
the
residents
apply
for
permits
as
well.
Sometimes
I
don't
think
we
are
so,
but
that's
my
commentary
on
that.
But
I
would
suggest
gesture
that
maybe
we
get
more
information
before
we
come
back
and
understand
the
implications.
F
Okay,
so
thank
you
Amy
for
finding
out
the
school
distance.
So
you
said
you
know
it's
about
Apple.
My
should
I
go
to
school,
correct,
yes,
yeah!
Okay,
so
I
do
have
a
couple
of
you
know,
follow-up
questions.
So
I
think
you
know
it
was
Mr
Brennan
Beatty
that
he
made
a
statement
say
you
know
they
currently
sell
wine
and
I
think
the
type
21
beverages
right.
That's
no
wine
and
you
know
and
beer.
He
also
said
you
know
they
sell.
O
So
can
can
I.
I
might
just
offer
a
bit
of
clarification
overall
here.
This
application
is
for
beer
and
wine
sales.
We
do
not
have
on
record
an
application
for
the
sales
of
beer
and
wine,
and
then
I
believe
that
they
currently
possess
a
type
20
license
not
associated
with
the
city
permits.
Again,
that's
associated
with
the
ABC
licensing
and
they're,
going
to
a
type
21
license
which
would
allow
for
the
distilled
Spirits
as
well
for
offset
consumption.
F
A
F
O
H
Okay
thanks,
but
if
I
could
just
add,
one
thing
on
that
question
is
the
distinction
between
the
license,
which
is
not
issued
by
the
city
and
the
use
permit,
which
is
so
the
use
permit,
runs
with
the
land
if
a
subsequent
operator
were
to
come
in,
they
would
be
able
to
operate
under
the
terms
of
that
use
permit.
So,
however,
you
condition
this
permit.
That's
what
runs
with
the
land.
The
type
20
or
type
21
license
is
an
alcoholic
beverage
control
issue.
G
H
A
H
J
B
Thank
you,
Michael.
Someone
mentioned
that
the
youth
permit.
Let's
say
the
gas
station
changed
ownership
and
the
used
permit
goes
to
the
new
owner
automatically
because
we
had
a
gas
station
on
Stelling
and
Stevens
Creek.
That
was
very
upset
because
the
used
permit
didn't
go
along,
would
not
transport
so
I'm
a
little
confused
here.
H
B
Okay,
the
other
case
was
for
tobacco
and
there
was
a
ordinance
passed
that
forbid
the
sale
of
tobacco
near
schools,
but
the
gas
station
was
grandfathered
in,
but
if
they
had
sold
to,
they
were
trying
to
sell
to
7-Eleven
and
they
would
not
be
able
to
sell
tobacco
so
yeah
they
were
upset
that
the
youth
permit
did
not
go
with
the
sale
of
the
of
the
land,
so
I'm
a
little.
You
know
not
sure
here
about
which
is
actually
true.
J
So
the
CMC
section
that
deals
with
this
as
I
said
governs
alcoholic
beverages,
including
beer
and
wine.
It
does
not
make
the
distinction-
and
at
this
point
with
the
information
available,
the
staff
they've
they've,
determined
and
obtained
evidence
that
he
complies
with
with
that
code
section
and
made
those
appropriate
findings.
I.
Think
they're
in
this
meeting
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
raised
so
yeah.
To
the
extent
this
this
body
wishes.
We
can
continue
this
the
direct
staff
to
look
into
this
further.
H
B
K
Yeah,
sorry
so
yeah
I.
Second,
your
questions,
I
think
that
would
be
good
information
for
us
to
have
before
we
move
forward.
I
also
just
wanted
some
clarification
and
I
I.
Think
I
think
we
got
a
sort
of
an
answer
from
Michael,
but
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
clarify
that
further.
So
so,
I
understand
the
difference
in
the
the
alcohol
and
control
board
is
the
one
that
decides
whether
they
get
a
permit,
21
or
20
or
20
or
21,
and
then
we
decide
the
land
use
permit.
K
J
Well,
I
mean
there's
certain
findings.
Commissioner
of
this
Cloud.
That
needs
to
be
made,
and
at
this
point
they're
findings
that's
been
presented
is
that
they
comply
with
all
the
standards
set
forth
and
CMC
section
19.132,
and
so
you
know
we
would.
We
would
need
to
have
further
research
and
find
additional
findings
to
show
that
you
know
alcohol
above
a
particular
proof
for
particular
alcohol
content,
somehow
it's
injurious
to
public
health
and
safety
in
that
area.
So
at
this
point
we
don't
have
those
type
of
findings
like
those
can't
be
made.
G
Yeah
I
would
I
would
only
accommodate
in
some
respects
this
may
be
taking
this
action.
This
way
may
actually
go
in
the
other
direction.
You
know,
because
they,
you
could
easily
discover
here
that
the
people
who
have
class
20
license
could
have
could
have
had
class
21
without
you
know,
coming
back
for
additional
approval,
I
believe
that's
correct
as
well.
Right.
J
G
But
but
I
suspect
that
it
would
be
my
guess
that
this
isn't
going
to
cause.
You
know
this
isn't
going
to
trigger
a
you
know:
alcohol
war
between
gas
stations.
So
you
know
if
I
I
think
that
there
is
some
value
in
understanding.
You
know,
historically,
whether
this
is
something
new
but,
as
I
had
said
before,
I
actually
don't
have
a
problem
with
approving
this.
As
a
as
a
come
to
us
today,.
Q
For
many
years
it's
always
been
just
type
20
that
convenience
stores
have
been
able
to
offer
that
type
of
product
to
the
community,
and
in
the
last
few
years,
California
legislation
has
moved
such
that
now
gas
stations
are
able
to
to
to
to
offer
type
21.
So
that's
probably
why
you
don't
see
a
preponderance
of
stores
that
have
type
21
right
now
we
have
300
stores
and
we
currently
have
27
type
21
licenses
among
those
300
stores
of
those
300
stores
about
175
have
beer
and
wine
licenses.
Q
We
see
it
as
a
differentiator.
Again
we
we're
not
leading
we
don't
advertise
at
our
pumps.
We
don't
advertise
on
the
windows.
We
don't
we're.
It's
it's
a
it's
an
offering
for
our
our
com,
our
customers
that
have
told
us
that
this
they
would
stop
more
frequently
if,
if
they
had
that,
and
and
so
that's
that's-
that's
really
why
we're
here
today
is
you
know:
we've
identified
as
crepitino
as
a
strategic
location.
We
have
no
intention
of
leaving
Cupertino.
We
have
no
intention
of
selling
this
property.
Q
It's
you
know.
We
we've
been
here
since
1991
and
we're
just
trying
to
maximize
the
the
facility
and
and
provide
the
offering
and
and
it's
a
smaller
c-store
relative
to
our
footprint
and
so
anything
that
we
can
do
to
add
additional
Revenue
in
terms
of
the
snacks,
the
cakes,
the
cookies.
We
have
a
fresh
food
offering.
That
is
phenomenal.
If
you
get
a
chance
and
it's
it's
just
it's
it's
a
it's
an
overall
offering
that
we're
trying
to
present.
E
Yeah
I
do
have
a
question
right
and
I
I
kind
of
had
the
suspicion
that
the
tech
21
ABC
licenses
weren't
offered
to
gas
stations
until
a
few
years
back.
I
think
the
state
legislature
has
been
passing
a
lot
of
crazy
things,
not
saying
that's
crazy
I've
been
a
lot
more
permissive
as
a
legislature
than
in
general.
My
comment
to
you
is:
do
you
have
to
get
a
special?
E
Q
Yeah,
you
don't
know
but
but
but
unfortunately
well
luckily
we're
self-insured.
So
there's
no
there's
no
extra
premiums.
We
were
able
to
lean
on
on
the
on
the
bigger
Chevron,
but
but
we
operate
as
a
subsidiary
of
Chevron.
The
the
the
company
operated
stores
are
are
called
Chevron
stations,
Inc
and
that's
a
subsidiary
of
Chevron
and
so
but
again
we're
under
the
umbrella
of
of
big
Chevron.
Q
D
K
O
So
and
Michael
or
Luke
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
my
understanding
is
that
they
would
in
fact
need
to
come
back,
as
their
conditions
typically
would
stipulate
the
sale
of
beer
and
wine
was
approved
and
that
it
did
not
strictly
say
at
least
for
the
last
two
that
I
have
seen
that
that
was
strictly
outlined
in
the
conditions.
So
again,
Michael
feel
free
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
H
I
think
you're
right,
Emmy,
sorry,
Michael
other
work,
I've
done
in
other
cities.
You
generally
tie
the
use
permit
to
the
type
of
ABC
license
because
it's
easier
to
track.
I
think
also
one
of
the
issues
that,
if
you
get
in
a
gray
area
between
harder
liquor
and
beer
and
wine,
then
you
could
potentially
be
setting
up
an
Enforcement
issue
of
who
would
be
going
into
monitor.
So
generally,
the
permits
have
tracked
one
license
or
the
other,
and
if
you
go
to
upgrade
from
beer
and
wine,
only
you
have
to
modify
your
use
permit.
H
F
Yeah
so
I
I'll
speak
from
my
experience
right.
So
I
worked
with
the
ABC
on
granting
a
permission.
Permitry,
you
know
one
of
the
neighboring
stores
closer
to
my
home
and
I
was
the
only
resident.
You
know
that
you
know
registered
a
voice
when
they
did
the
noticing
and
I
was
able
to
attach.
You
know
tons
of
conditions,
including
you
know,
time
right
and
and
few
other
conditions,
but
unfortunately
enforcing
that
is
a
big
challenge.
We
do
see
constant
violation
of
those.
F
In
fact
you
know
my
neighbors
are
constantly
you
know
bringing
up
to
me
saying:
hey,
you
know
all
these
conditions
you
attach,
they
are
violating
it
so
and
they
are
complaining
to
the
city
and
they're
complaining
to
you
know
Sheriff's
Office,
even
they
called
you
know
ABC
a
few
times,
but
it's
a
you
know
difficult
exercise.
You
know
trying
to
chase
those
things
afterwards,
but
it
is
possible
to
attach
you
know
the
time
criteria
and
you
know
on
few
other
criterias
at
the
Abc
level,
not
at
the
city
level.
F
B
I
mean
all
right
well,
I
will
make
a
motion
that
the
Planning
Commission
adopt
the
proposed
draft
resolution
for
application.
U
2022006
find
the
project
exempt
from
SQL
and
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
I'll,
second,
that
okay,
so
now
well
technically,
we
should
have
done
that
and
now
we
can
have
more
discussion
if
you
wish-
or
we
can
just
vote
on
that.
If
no
one
else
has
anything
to
say,
mooning
go
ahead
so.
F
I'm
not
comfortable
working
on
it.
You
know
with
a
lot
of
unknowns,
I
understand
you
know
they
are
within
the
code
and
all
that
stuff,
so
I
would
prefer,
for
you
know,
for
the
staff
to
come
back
with.
You
know
answers
to
all
those
questions
like,
for
example,
to
other
gas
stations.
Do
they
have
you
know
type
21
and-
and
you
know
how
many
and
you
know,
and
all
that
stuff
that
would
be
my
preference
and
you
know
I
will
feel
comfortable.
You
know
voting
on
something.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
like
that
idea
too,
but
it
was
my
understanding
that
it's
almost
irrelevant
whether
those
other
stations
have
a
type
21
or
not.
If
I,
if
Michael's
correct,
it's
like,
we
don't.
You
know
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
Michael,
but
this
we
do
not
have
discretion
over
this.
Is
that
an
accurate
statement
or
do
we
have
discretion
to
deny
a
type
21?
B
J
If
there
are,
if
there
are
questions
that
the
Planning
Commission
has,
and
you
wish
that
could
go,
use
more
research
to
establish
that
perhaps
there
may
be
findings
that
will
show
the
opposite
that
there's
there's
there's
there's
that
that
it
doesn't
comply
with
the
code.
Then
that's
a
discretion.
You
have
to
to.
B
J
Q
Thank
you
chairman,
so
I
would
just
I
would
encourage
the
council.
You
know,
as
as
a
company
operated
Network.
You
know
our.
We
have
significant
controls
in
place
and
we
have
our
own
Mystery
Shop
program,
and
we
also
have
you
know
where
we
have
the
extra
mile
brand
associated
with
us.
So
extra
mile
is
a
franchise
and
we're
a
partner
and
an
owner
in
that
brand,
and
so
they
also
have
a
a
Mystery
Shop
program.
Q
we're
going
to
be
responsible.
We're
going
to
be.
You
know
customer
facing
and
Community
facing
and
we're
putting
checks
and
balances
in
everything
that
we
do
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
going
to
be
right
for
the
community
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
was
that
was
known
and
and
we're
not
you're,
not
necessarily
going
to
see
that
in
a
single
owner
operator
operation,
which
is
what
we
on
a
c-store
basis,
we're
competing
against.
Q
But
then
you've
got
the
big
grocery
store
across
the
way
from
us
that
that
would
have
similar
controls
that
we
have
so
I.
Just
I.
Just
think
that
the
the
risk
at
this
particular
facility,
because
that
we're
present
in
all
of
our
organizational
capability
that
we
employ
and
the
checks
and
balances
you
know
we're
we're
going
to
do
a
really
Paramount
offering
for
the
community.
Okay,.
Q
So
the
fun
fact
fun
fact
we're
the
only
oil
company
that
has
company
operated
stations
back
in
the
day.
All
of
the
oil
companies
started
selling
their
their
company
Ops
across
the
country
and
Chevron
elected
to
to
keep
them
so
yeah.
We
do
not
divest
or
or
sell
our
stores
on
a
regular
basis.
We
actually
have
a
strategy
where
we're
growing
we're,
adding
one
to
two
new
to
Chevron
locations
a
year.
Q
Q
E
With
some
of
the
conditions
he
put
into
place
in
his
ABC
application,
ABC
efforts
in
the
past
and
I
also
want
to
make
a
point
that
I
I
do
agree
with
acting
director
Connolly,
that
we
probably
need
some
more
information
and
and
to
actually
substitute
a
motion
once
I
hear
from
commissioner
maripatla
to
just
continue
this
at
a
different
point.
So,
but
those
are
my
suggestions
but
I'd
love
to
hear
from
commissioner.
F
Yeah
so
I'll
be
brave
yeah,
so
so
I
don't
remember
all
the
conditions
like
I
I
was
able
to
attach.
You
know,
10
to
11
conditions
for
ABC
to
issue
the
use
permit
at
that
location
and,
for
example,
you
know
they
wanted
to
sell
the
the
last
sale
is
not
nine
o'clock
nine
PM
right,
so
they
wanted
to
sell
up
until
2
A.M
in
the
morning.
F
That
was
their
request
right,
but
I
was
able
to
attach
a
condition
that
said
no
last
sale
is
nine
o'clock
and
the
consumption
should
end
at
you
know
10
o'clock
or
something
right.
It's
a
restaurant
and
likewise
you
know
there
are
doors
you
know
on
the
backside
you
know
should
be
always
closed.
No
consumption
allowed,
you
know
anywhere
outside
the
restaurant,
since
there
are
tons
of
conditions
attached
like
that
and
I.
Don't
remember
all
of
them,
but
I
can
dig
up
on
to
know
and
share
in
an
email
to
the
staff.
E
Okay
and
I
do
take
Point
to
Mr
Brennan's
point
the
Mr
Beatty's
point
I
mean
you
know:
Jackson
and
Chevron
have
put
in
effective
programs
around
the
country,
I'm
very
aware
of
what
they've
done
with
their
ownership
and
their
controls
and
I
know
they're
there.
But
I
do
would
like
to
put
in
a
substitute
motion
chair
to
continue
this
siding
with
staff
here
to
actually
get
more
information
and
get
all
the
information
that
commissioner
Lynn
Scott
was
looking
for
myself
and
commissioner,
has
their
man
make
that
motion
for
substitute.
E
Think
the
social
media
motion
is
to
follow
staff's
recommendation
acting
director
Connolly's
recommendation
to
get
more
information
and
I
think
it's
up
to
the
commission
to
make
sure
we
have
all
that
information
like
they
do.
Apologize
to
the
applicants,
I
think
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
best
information
we
have
in
front
of
us
from
staff
as
to
where
the
licenses
are
and
as
to
what
restrictions
we
can
place.
E
I
think
we
may
have
to
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
research
assistant
attorney
who,
as
to
what
restrictions
we
can
place
based
on
who
we
are
in
the
CMC.
If
we
were
to
do
so
so
that
we're
in
compliance,
so
that's
the
substitute
motion
is
to
have
a
continuance
of
this
discussion.
Is
there
a
second
is
what
I'm
asking
for
sure.
B
D
D
B
Q
E
B
H
A
C
C
The
last
time
we
had
Commissioners
invited
to
this
training.
We
did
register
three
attendees
two
data,
ten
I
believe
you
were
one
of
the
two
chair
shark
that
attended
the
last
one.
So
we
are
for
any
Commissioners
who
are
interested
in
attending
and
are
available
you're.
More
than
welcome
to
coordinate
with
me.
I
will
be
handling
the
registration
and
travel
accommodations,
at
least
for
the
hotel,
as
recommended
by
the
cities,
for
this
particular
training.
C
B
And
yeah
it
was
a
great
training.
You
know
whether
you've
been
on
Planning
Commission,
before,
like
commissioner
Fung
or
on
city
council,
like
I,
was
I
I
still
learned
a
lot
by
attending
this,
especially
the
sessions
on
Sequel
and
a
lot
of
this
changes
every
year.
So
I
would
recommend
if
you
know
anyone
that
can
attend.
It
would
be
it's
worthwhile
to
go
and.
G
E
B
E
Encourage,
oh
I
would
encourage
the
public
to
also
look
I
mean
the
presentations
are
available
after
the
event
and
they're
all
listed
publicly
listed,
so
you
can
also
take
a
look
at
them
as
well
and
if
you
can't
attend
definitely
with
last
year's
I
mean
all
the
presentations
are
up
there
and
I
think
you'll
learn
a
lot
as
well.
So.
B
Okay,
I,
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised
the
Staffing
commission
reports,
so
we
are
on
to
future
agenda
setting
well
I
guess
we
will
have
come
back
to
the
Chevron
station
issue
at
some
point
in
the
future
and
Luke.
Is
there
any
other
things
you
can?
Think
of
you
know?
Do
you
know
when
the
Coach
House
thing
is
coming
back
to
the
Planning
Commission.
H
E
Oh
just
my
usual
I'm
still
getting
a
lot
of
complaints
from
the
residents
about
where
we
are
on.
You
know,
5G
and
setting
architectural
standards.
I
know
they're
public
polls,
they're,
not
private
polls,
I-
think
there's
still
a
lot
of
questions
from
the
community
about
that.
They're
worried
about
Aesthetics
I'll
emphasize
that
not
necessarily
health
reasons,
and
we
have
done
our
darnest
to
take
a
very
long
time
to
get
to
this
and
and
I
think.
A
lot
of
residents
are
very
upset
at
the
moment
and
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure.
E
At
least
we
take
those
issues
seriously.
I
know
it
might
be
in
another
jurisdiction,
as
a
Assistant
Attorney
will
tell
us
Deputy
attorney,
but
I
I,
even
that
informational
hearing
or
status
from
the
city
I
think
would
be
wonderful.
A
lot
of
residents
are
still
complaining
and
I.
You
know
I,
don't
want
to
direct
them
all
at
us,
but
I
I
hope
we
are
listening.
E
E
J
E
Sure,
thank
you
assistant,
City
attorney,
sure
I
believe
it's
within
our
purview
to
actually
have
a
an
informational
session.
If
we
need
to
about
this
or
study
session
on
the
conversation
on
how
cities
have
put
architectural
standards
in
place,
using
their
planning
commissions
to
do
so
to
set
those
architectural
standards
and
and
believe
it
or
not,
our
City
attorney
is
actually
an
expert
in
this.
Our
current
City
attorney
is
an
expert
in
this
he's
done
that
before
and
and
I'm
hoping,
we
can
actually
learn
from
them.
E
C
I,
thank
you,
chair,
I,
just
wanted
to
add,
as
I'm
I
forgot
to
earlier.
As
you
know,
the
executive
emergency
order,
I
should
say
from
the
government
or
the
state
will
be
ending
on
February
28th.
So
that
means
for
our
first
meeting
in
March,
which
should
be
March
14th.
There
is
anticipated
to
be
a
Planning
Commission
meeting
in
terms
of
training
on
the
hybrid
format
for
the
Planning
Commission.
C
C
We
do
need
to
have
to
ensure
we
stick
to
Brown
out
brown
act,
regulations
that
we
have
three
separate
meetings:
two
Commissioners
at
a
time
and
a
third
meeting
with
just
one
commissioner
that
may
run
concurrent
with
other
commissions
that
are
also
doing
their
hybrid
training.
But
again,
more
information
will
come
out
for
that
closer
to
the
date
and
also
wanted
to
just
remind
the
commission
and
the
public
to
fill
out.
C
F
Yeah,
so
it's
a
real
quick
update,
so
I
did
attend
the
Mayes
meeting
last
week
on
behalf
on
behalf
of
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I
brought
it
update.
You
know
asked
you
know
what
was
happening
in
our
last
couple
of
meetings
and
also
talked
about
where
we
are
on
the
housing
element.
Submission
right.
F
This
is
for
the
benefit
of
you,
know
the
mayor
vice
mayor
and
also
you
know
the
other
Commissioners
from
other
commissions
and
most
of
the
commission
reports
were
to
do
with
the
changes
that
are
occurring
there
right
in
terms
of
you
know,
the
new
chair
and
voice
share
and
a
lot
of
the
commission
meetings
were
also
canceled
during
holidays
right.
So
there's
not
significant.
F
You
know
update
from
any
of
them,
but
mayor
did
ask
you
know
if
you
want
these
meetings
to
be
in
person,
the
monthly
you
know
Mass
meeting
and
some
of
us
provided
feedback.
You
know
I
was
one
of
the
first
ones
to
say
you
know
hey,
let's
have
this,
as
you
know,
Zoom
meetings.
So
that
way
you
know
people
know
are
not
required
to
come
in
person
for
this
meeting.
F
So
I
may
was
in
support
of
that
and
also
you
know,
there
was
a
request
from
the
mayor
to
change
it
from
five
o'clock
to
you
know
six
o'clock
in
the
evening
so
that
you
know
most
of
the
Commissioners
that
were
present.
You
know
they
accepted.
They
said
you
know
yeah,
that's
fine,
because
mayor
had
a
conflict
at
five
o'clock,
so
she
wanted
it
to
be
not
six
o'clock.
So
most
everybody
was
fine.
Our
request
was
not
to
make
it
video
meetings
and
I.