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Coverage of the Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting, recorded on Tuesday, February 15, 2021. Part 2 of 2.
A
A
Any
requests
from
my
fellow
council
members
for
postponements
and
orders
of
the
day.
If
there
are
none,
then
we
will
go
on
to
oral
communications.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
there.
So
oral
communications
is
the
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak
on
any
item
that
is
not
on
our
agenda,
as
with
other
items,
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
speak
on
any
item
that
is
not
agenda
is
this
evening,
and
so
by
the
time
the
first
speaker
is
concluded.
Please
have
your
hand
raised
if
you
would
like
to
be
called
upon
to
speak
under
oral
communications.
C
Thank
you,
mayor
darcy,
I'm
jennifer
griffin
and
I
certainly
have
appreciated
all
the
nice
presentations
we've
had
today.
So
far.
I
attended
a
zoom
meeting
last
week
that
was
about
the
housing
element
numbers
that
each
city
in
california
is
required
to
be
meeting
and,
as
everyone
is
aware,
these
housing
element
numbers
are
very,
very
high
for
this
cycle.
C
I
have
gone
through,
I
believe
four
housing
elements
cycled
with
cupertino
since
2001-
and
this
is
a
very
very
unusual
year-
I
it
was
presented
to
me
and
other
people
that
these
inflated
housing
element
numbers
are
hitting
all.
I
believe,
211
cities
across
the
state.
I
believe
that
southern
california
had
to
certify
or
send
in
their
housing
element
numbers
before
we
did
in
northern
california,
and
many
many
of
the
housing
element
numbers
that
the
cities
southern
california
are
sending
in
have
not
been
certified
by
hcd
and
they
have
been
sent
back.
C
C
The
these
housing
element
numbers
how
they've
been
arrived
at
there's
some
very,
very
strange
statistics
that
are
being
used.
The
housing
element
members
were
arrived
at
and
adopted
by
something
called
plan
bay
area,
which
is
the
casa,
compact
and
abag
and
mtc
adopted
these
a
year
ago.
I
believe
it
was
a
year
ago,
even
though,
at
the
time,
officials,
elected
officials
in
the
state
were
concerned
that
these
numbers
were
inflated
and
they
were
asking
questions.
Statistical
questions
about
how
these
numbers
were
being
arrived
at.
C
They
are
the
cities
being
are
rezoning,
areas
that
are
in
100
year,
flood
plains
to
high
density,
to
put
housing
in
their
rezoning
areas
and
fire
zones
to
meet
these
high
densities.
They're
rezoning
areas
in
earthquake,
fault
areas,
they're
rezoning
areas
where
levees
can
break
such
as
in
the
central
valley,
and
I
think
that
we
are
having.
A
D
D
What's
the
next
step
and
of
course,
falco
and
quite
a
few
people
have
noticed
that
all
the
heavy
equipment
is
gone
from
the
site
at
this
point,
wondering
how
and
why
that
happened,
and
when
it
may
come
back
and
then
I'd
also
like
to
suggest
that
the
city
seriously
consider
a
vacancy
tax
for
I,
I
think,
there's
a
number
that
staff
has
or
someone
has
that
reflects
the
number
of
housing
units
large
and
small,
that
are
just
sitting
vacant
when
the
state
is
telling
us
build,
build,
build
housing,
housing,
housing
and
I
don't
see
how,
if
we
were
able
to
meet
our
arena,
numbers
actually
got
developers
to
build
those
units
who's
going
to
control
the
vacancy
of
those
san
francisco,
as
you
probably
all
know,
is
already
doing
this,
and
I
I
think
it's
overdue.
D
Actually
so
please
have
some
discussion
about
that
at
some
point
very
soon
and
then
also
thanks
for
the
the
model
of
the
united
nations
students
who
I'm
sure
are
long
gone
from
the
meeting,
but
they
did
a
great
job
and
I'm
it's
a
great
thing.
Thanks
for
the
proclamation
and
thank
you
for
them
and
that's
it.
E
E
We.
Finally,
as
of
october
2021
four
years
later,
have
one
ongoing
dollar
at
jonathan
park.
Jala
mandola
has
been
very
successfully
ongoing
since
then
without
incident,
one
dola
cannot
serve
all
the
dogs
and
dog
owners
in
cupertino,
especially
since
kovid
cupertino
has
over
11
000
dogs
and
growing
for
further
work
on
more
dollas
to
continue
successfully.
The
creation
of
more
dollas
needs
to
be
given
a
high
priority
by
the
council
in
the
city's
work
plan
for
2022-2023.
E
More
dollars
need
to
be
formed
throughout
cupertino
to
enable
nearby
residents
to
walk
their
dogs
to
and
from
a
closed
dola
rather
than
driving
to
a
distant
single
dollar.
This
complies
with
cupertino's
policy
of
encouraging
residents
to
walk
as
well
as
improves
residents
mental
health
by
giving
them
an
outdoor
opportunity
for
community
engagement,
which
includes
seniors
young
people,
as
well
as
those
in
between
an
age.
E
E
E
Small
dogs
do
not
go
there,
because
small
dogs
are
entertainment,
intimidated
and
at
risk
with
large
dogs
who,
appropriately
for
their
breed,
run
chase
and
wrestle
each
other,
but
who
can
easily
and
accidentally
run
over
and
injure
small
or
delicate
dogs.
Little
and
delicate
dogs
need
an
area
separate
from
that
at
athletic
arena.
E
Delicate
dogs
can
include
large
gentle
dogs,
who
are
afraid
of
large
athletic
dogs.
Older
dogs,
who
need
a
more
sedate
dog
setting,
arthritic
dogs,
fearful
dogs,
frail
dogs,
whatever
a
little
dog
and
delicate
dog
dola,
would
serve
the
needs
of
the
community
of
little
dogs
and
delicate
dogs
and
their
owners,
who
are
very
eager
to
have
a
legal
dollar
available
to
them
more
dollars
being
given
a
high
priority,
will
provide
essential
support
to
the
community
in
their
efforts
to
form
more
dolas
without
a
high
priority.
No
zola
trials
can
be
started
again
since
2019..
E
F
Good
evening,
everybody
thank
you
for
this
opportunity,
I'm
also
speaking
on
the
same
subject.
I
was
one
of
the
original
people
with
the
jolly
mandola
and
there's
been
some
good
things
I
feel
have
have
actually
come
out
of
the
pandemic,
one
of
them
being
heavier
use
of
the
parks.
I'm
seeing
a
lot
of
organized
events
such
as
regular
volleyball,
jolliben
baseball's,
just
started
up
again.
F
People
are
getting
out
there
and
one
of
the
benefits
of
the
dollars
has
been
people
getting
to
know
their
neighbors,
a
very
diverse
group
of
people,
people
watching
out
for
each
other,
who
didn't
even
know
each
other
existed
before
it's
not
just
about
the
dogs.
It's
about
the
people
connecting
and
in
some
cases
we
have
some
elderly
people
who
come
out.
F
One
doesn't
even
have
a
dog,
but
they
come
out.
They
connect
they
used
to
have
a
dog,
but
more
than
that,
they
want
that
community
spirit
and
contact
out
there.
So
I
think
the
parks
and
recreation
committee
did
a
great
job
working
with
us
to
get
this
going.
Joanne.
The
parks
and
rex
director
worked
with
this
as
well,
and
I
know,
as
a
council
you're
very
busy,
but
with
the
template
we
have
what
we've
proven
I
would
ask.
Is
it
shouldn't?
Take
too
much
time?
Can
we
expand
the
dollar
concept?
F
My
goal
is
not
forgive
the
pun,
to
have
the
city
go
to
the
dogs,
but
go
to
the
volleyball,
go
to
the
soccer,
go
to
all
of
the
activities
and
widen
the
dogs
off
leash
to
the
points
of
not
having
people
having
to
drive
connecting
people
and
continuing
to
build
the
community
literally
one
or
two
relations
at
a
time.
I'm
still
constantly
meeting
people
and
I
think
it's
extremely
valuable
and
it
would
take
a
minimal
amount
of
time
to
expand,
and
most
of
us
involved
would
be
willing
to
help
other
parts
of
the
city.
F
G
I'm
mary
ellen
and
they
call
me
the
sheriff
of
the
jolly
man
park
dola,
because
I
let
people
know
that
what
the
what
the
rules
are
and
when
because
a
lot
of
times
there
are
new
people
coming
in
and
they
they
have.
No
idea
that
you
know
they
don't
bother
to
read
the
information
on
the
sandwich
boards,
so
I
let
them
know
and
if
people
are
not
compliant,
I
tell
them
that
they
need
to
comply
so
that
we
don't
have
any
issues.
G
And
so
of
course
I
can't
throw
them
in
jail,
but
that
might
come
anyway.
I
would
like
to
ask
for
more
dollars
as
well.
G
I
live
near
hoover
park
and
it
would
be
great
for
me
to
be
able
to
walk
my
dog
there,
I'm
not
getting
any
younger,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
to
have
one
in
my
neighborhood
also
the
great
thing
there
are
so
many
great
things
about
the
jolly
mandola
for,
for
example,
my
dog
gets
to
actually
be
a
dog
and
he
is
a
teenage
boy
at
this
point
and
he
has
his
girlfriends
there,
so
he
gets
to
chew
on
their
faces.
G
I
love
you.
I
love
you,
let
me
chew
on
your
face
and
he
just
has
a
great
time
there
and
I
do
too.
I
am
a
widow,
and
so
I
get
to
connect
with
people
there.
I
have
made
some
wonderful
friends
there
it's
great
to
get
out
and
to
connect
with
nature
tonight,
as
I
was
leaving,
I
saw
that
full
moon.
It
was
just
gorgeous.
G
I
I
can't
imagine
what
it
looks
like
now,
so
I
would
like
to
ask
that
we
that
you,
as
council,
put
this
on
your
list
prioritize
creating
more
dollar
trials
and
again,
as
tony
said,
I
and
I
am
happy
to
help
in
any
way
that
I
can,
because
this
has
been
so
great
for
me.
You
know
my
my
dog
gets
to
get
out
and
be
a
dog
and
socialize
I
get
to
get
out
and
socialize,
I'm
in
nature.
G
It's
good
for
my
mental
health
to
be
out
there,
and
I
just
think
that
we
we
have
the
space
to
do
that.
So,
if
needed,
you
have
my
name,
and
I
know
you
know
how
to
connect
with
me.
If
you
need
to-
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
city
council
and
our
staff
and
our
deputies
for
making
cupertino
such
a
great
place
to
live.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
H
Good
evening,
council
and
staff,
I
second
lisa
warren's
comments
on
asking
for
updates
on
three
projects,
I'd
like
to
add
the
mary
avenue
eli
and
the
santa
clara
county,
affordable
housing
at
the
outback
site,
and
I
also
second
her
comment
about
looking
into
a
vacancy
tax
or
something
similar,
something
to
encourage
empty
houses
to
be
rented
and
finally,
pavement
cupertino
is
known
for
its
nice
roads.
H
I
don't
know
what
the
score
was,
but
it
was
really
really
high
and
you
can
tell
when
you
drive
from
san
jose
into
cupertino,
but
we've
got
pavement
hackers
tearing
up
our
roads
and
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
the
cell
towers.
If
you
look
at
the
curbside
lanes
between
homestead
and
interstate
280
on
both
sides,
these
pavement
hackers
have
cut
squares
into
the
pavement
and
then
they
haven't
patched
it
properly
so
they're
tearing
apart
and
I'm
seeing
them
work
at
blainey
and
homestead
2,
and
it
doesn't
look
like
a
really
good
patch.
H
A
Thank
you
peggy,
and
that
concludes
our
oral
communications
for
this
evening,
we'll
bring
it
back
over
to
council.
This
is
now
under
the
section
of
our
agenda
called
reports
by
council
and
staff.
We
are
now
on
item
number
three.
The
subject
is
a
set
of
brief
reports
on
our
council
member
activities,
along
with
brief
announcements
and
I'll
remind
the
council
trying
to
encapsulate
this
for
your
individual
comments
to
a
minute.
The
general
purpose
of
this
is
to
give
some
brief
updates
to
the
public
or
to
possibly
follow
up
on.
A
I
Okay,
thank
you
mayor,
paul,
real,
quick,
the
the
vacancy
rate
for
santa
clara
county
46,
000
units,
okay,
so
friday
february
11th,
I
participated
in
the
cal
city,
statewide
environmental
quality
policy
committee
meeting,
where
we
went
over
aca
7
and
formed
a
statement
on
it
to
the
board
to
ensure
environmental
protection.
We
went
over
policies
and
made
suggestions
for
review,
and
I
suggested
the
plastics
ballot
initiative
called
the
california
plastic
waste
reduction
regulations,
initiative
for
review,
which
has
significant
funding
from
recology
to
the
tune
of
almost
four
million
dollars.
I
On
sunday
february
13th,
I
attended
the
opening
of
natural
music
in
the
former
sweet
music
studios
with
the
mayor
and
councilmember
way,
and
that
has
been
vacant
for
about
10
years
and
I'm
really
excited
to
see
it
reopened.
That
is
where
my
sons
first
took
lessons.
So
I'm
glad
to
see
the
music
teachers
back
and
it's
a
great
space
and
it's
a
very
exciting
studio
with
jazz
and
rock
lessons
rock
music
lessons
and
band
opportunities
for
when
the
students
become
proficient
similar
to
school
of
rock.
J
Hi,
so
on
the
5th
of
february,
I
attended
the
annual
library
forum
on
where
the
library
district
present
their
annual
performance,
and
especially,
we
had
two
cupertino
teams
presenting
their
poets
poems
and
the
youngest
one
was
like
eight
or
nine
years
old
that
they
were
amazing
poet
and
then
on
the
seventh,
the
sea.
The
city
staff
took
us
on
a
city
tour
of
properties,
to
look
at
stockholm,
house,
splash
house
and
bryan
brought
the
house
on
bread,
bread,
bry
bayon,
which
the
city
has
purchased
and
the
one
on
tory.
K
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
I'm
going
to
skip
the
be
natural
music
that
council
member
moroni
mentioned
and
the
library
district
forum,
but
I
just
want
to
mention
that
our
very
own
library
extension
was
mentioned
on
the
forum,
so
we
were
very
proud
of
it.
On
nov
february
7th,
I
attended
the
abc's
of
adu
seminar
because
adu
is
part
of
could
be
part
of
our
housing
element,
so
I
might
think
maybe
our
city
could
do
a
sim,
similar
similar
seminar
to
educate
our
residents
on
september
9th.
K
I
attended
this
silicon
valley
used
climate
action,
their
webinar,
along
with
the
california
environmental
protection
agency.
You
know
our
youth
are
on
the
front
run
in
protecting
the
our
environment,
so
I
think
cupertino
really
is
part
of
it
and
encouraging
our
youth
be
part
of
the
environmental
protection
actions
and
on
the
10th
I
attended
the
lunar
new
year
celebration
hosted
by
the
aapa
council,
abc
council
of
cupino
chamber,
where
they
honored
two
bridge
awards.
K
One
is
our
business
leader,
one
of
the
pineapple
thai
pineapple
thai
opened
in
during
the
covet,
and
then
they
really
are
part
of
the
community.
They
think
out
there
and
giving
back
to
the
community,
so
they
received
the
rich
award,
which
is
very
deserving,
and
the
individual
work
goes
to
bali,
bove
15-year
superintendent
of
the
fremont
union,
high
school
district
who's
retiring
after
this
year.
So
a
very
deserving
person
too,
and
just
one
one
last
mission
is
as
an
executive
board
member
with
kel
city's
peninsula
division.
K
We
had
a
meeting
yesterday
and
we're
planning
education
seminars
and
put
together
so
that
the
three
counties
san
francisco
county,
san
mateo,
county
and
santa
clara
county
cities
can
get
together
and
work
together
on
infrastructure
seminars
coming
up
in
march
and
I'll.
Let
everybody
know
thank
you.
L
Yeah,
thank
you,
so
I
I
really
want
to
focus
tonight
on.
I
attended
the
cupertino
plan
to
end
homelessness
workshop
and
I
feel
it's
just
so
important
that
you
know
this
community
is
going
to
be
actively
involved
in
trying
to
assist
our
homeless
directly.
They
did
bring
well.
There
were
108
attendees,
very
high
number
one
of
the
comments
from
the
consultant
that
ran
it
said
cupertino
creating
a
planned
end.
Homelessness
is
really
a
first
of
a
kind
that
they
know
of
where
a
city
is
actually
creating
their
own
plan.
L
To
me
that
that's
great,
and
then
they
talked
about
our
homeless
jobs
program.
That's
already
up
and
running.
My
hope
is
that
this
planned
end.
Homelessness
will
come
back
to
the
city
council,
with
options
on
ways
we'll
be
able
to
help
the
homeless,
people
that
are
in
our
community,
for
which
they
said
that
currently,
there's
159,
there's
some
that
we
really
see
on
the
corners,
but
when,
when
they
tell
us,
there's
159
it
to
me
says
we
need
to
help
and
work
on
this
issue.
L
So
hopefully
staff
will
be
bringing
back
some
options
for
us
as
they
explore
the
options.
Maybe
places
for
overnight
parking
as
needed,
emergency
shelter,
very
temporary
type-
things
like
that.
So
it's
part
plan
and
it's
now
had
its.
So
thank
you.
A
J
Oh
okay,
yeah.
Actually
I
attended
the
chamber
lunar
new
year
event.
Also
it
was
great
and
how
I
guess
for
the
count
cities.
I
am
on
the
cal
city's
policy
committee,
which
is
not
exactly
a
council
appointment,
so
I
guess
I
should
report
here,
and
so
this
is
the
second
meeting
of
the
year
and
we
reviewed
the
guidance
of
cal
cities
which
still
focused
on
local
control.
But
then
there
is
seems
to
be
a
desire
to
define
what
local
control
is
and
then
we
work,
we
approved
a
work
program
for
this
year.
A
Okay
and
vice
mayor
just
for
future
reference
for
that
kind
of
thing,
encapsulate
your
comments
within
a
minute.
You
know
I'm
not
gonna,
give
a
report
out
in
the
interest
in
respecting
everyone's
time,
and
so,
if
you
can't
get
to
it,
then
you
don't
get
to
it.
Just
you
know
just
a
future
of
reference
and
then,
with
regard
to
a
very
brief
update,
as
requested
by
a
couple
of
members
of
the
public,
I
can
you
know
let
people
know
that
the
westport
project
is
going
forward.
A
There
was
one
component
of
it
that
was
a
little
bit
nebulous
if
you're
reading
the
media
reports
and
that
had
to
do
with
the
townhomes
and
row
homes
that
was
actually
purchased
by
taylor
morrison
through
a
through
a
financing
mechanism,
so
so
they're
building,
as
well
as
the
bmr
units
for
senior
affordable,
the
the
senior
market
rate
and
memory
care
units
are
going
forward
with
related
company
within
the
next
year.
But
it
does
look
like
that.
A
There's
significant
movement
going
forward
with
the
entirety
of
that
project
and
then,
as
for
the
other
requests,
I'm
going
to
leave
that
to
the
city,
manager's
updates.
With
regard
to
our
next
item
on
the
agenda,
that's
item
number
four.
That
has
to
do
with
our
committee
assignments,
and
so
I
asked
that
and
I'll
just
take
one
bite
of
the
apple.
I
won't
go
backwards
anymore.
So,
if
you
have
an
update
for
your
committee,
assignments
provide
those
updates,
we'll
start
with
vice
mayor
chao
and
then
go
to
council
member
more.
J
I
Thank
you
on
february.
Well,
on
february
3rd
I
gave
the
vta
pac
update
to
the
vta
board
on
the
10th.
I
attended
the
vta
express
lane
opening
ceremony
in
mountain
view,
for
the
us-101
express
lanes
which
is
phase
3
of
that
project,
which
included
over
50
million
dollars
of
funding
from
google
and
facebook,
and
that
project
will
eventually
be
extended
to
morgan
hill.
I
Also,
on
february
10th,
I
chaired
the
vta
pac
meeting,
where
we
had
an
extensive
discussion
on
freeway
litter
and
graffiti,
with
nearly
every
member
across
the
county,
having
something
to
say
about
how
this
problem's
gotten
worse
and
learn
about
how
we
can
network
our
resources
to
have
the
freeways
cleaned.
It
has
been
a
challenge
to
keep
maintenance
workers
in
the
area
and
under
staffing
issues
continue
on
a
positive
note.
We
may
be
seeing
a
clean
up
day
for
the
I-280
in
cupertino
in
the
near
future.
Thank
you.
L
Yeah
so
on
the
ninth
was
the
silicon
valley,
clean
energy
meeting,
and
we
installed
the
new
officers,
which
is
our
councilman
way,
is
going
to
be
on
the
committee
for
finance
and
administration.
L
So
thank
you
for
stepping
forward,
for
that
and
one
item
that
they
do
have
is
that
they
actually
have
a
scholarship
program,
so
those
with
high
school
students
could
go
to
their
website
and
find
out
more
details
about
a
possible
scholarship,
and
then
they
have
several
of
their
power
purchase
agreement
projects
going
to
be
coming
online
over
the
next
year,
or
so
the
first
one
being
in
mark
well,
the
first
one
was
january
and
another
one
in
march
is
all
contributing
to
getting
us
off
the
fossil
fuels
and
on
to
renewable
energy
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
A
You
councilman
willie
and
councilman
roy.
Did
you
want
to
report
out
on
anything?
No
okay,
great
so
I'll.
Just
dovetail
off
of
councilman
moore
on
the
vta
item,
I'm
on
the
vta
board
of
directors
and
we
did
have
a
board
meeting.
Then
we
actually
had
in
our
board
meeting
a
member
of
caltrans
for
our
district.
I
believe
it's
district
five
and
that's
essentially,
you
know
the
district
that
encompasses
the
bay
area
and
you
know
people
may
have
noticed.
A
Certainly
all
the
elected
officials
there,
you
know,
noticed
a
lot
of
the
various
you
know
kind
of
litter
situations
along
the
various
freeways
you
know
controlled
by
caltrans
and
we've
run
into
issues.
You
know
we've
had
appetite
from
our
community
itself
where
people
would
say
hey,
you
know
we'll
go
out
there
we'll
go
out
there
and
pick
up
the
litter
ourselves
right,
and
you
know
the
the
issue
is
that
we
don't
actually
have
an
encroachment
permit
to
go
on
there.
A
There's
also,
you
know
the
issue
of
training
to
pick
up
litter,
you
don't
know
what
might
be
there
and
then
also.
You
know
the
safety
issue
as
well.
So
when
we
had
a
member
of
caltrans
on
our
vta
agenda,
come
in
and
basically
you
know
the
local
director,
we
actually
had
a
very
vigorous
discussion
about
picking
up
the
the
litter
along
the
highways
which
council
member
moore
referenced.
A
It
was
actually
a
discussion
that
I
had
had
with
city
manager
troupe
with
regard
to
you
know
earlier
trying
to
apply
for
grant
funding
dealing
with
caltrans.
Unfortunately,
you
know
by
time
it
caught
my
attention.
We
only
had
a
couple
of
days
left
and
so
we
weren't
able
to
get
that
grant
funding,
but
shortly
thereafter
was
when
we
had
that
vta
board
meeting,
and
there
was
this
member
of
caltrans
talking
about
things
like
having
a
volunteer
litter
pick
up
today.
A
Among
other
things,
such
as
you
know,
major
items
like
funding
for
this
type
of
cleanup
by
caltrans,
which
I
assure
you
was
very
vigorously
discussed
by
the
elected
officials
there,
representing
virtually
every
geographic
area
of
santa
clara
county.
So
what
I'm
hoping
in
the
near
future
to
bring
back
to
the
community
is
the
opportunity
to
consolidate
a
volunteer
group
to
start
you
know
taking
our
ad
hoc.
You
know
efforts
to
help
clean
up
the
the
size
of
the
highways
in
conjunction
with
caltrans
and
their.
A
You
know
kind
of
litter
cleanup
day
efforts.
You
know,
I
I
think
you
know
when
I
asked
those
particular
questions
focused
on
that
and
focusing
upon
the
litter
cleanup
day.
I
I
think
it
really
sent
a
strong
message
at
the
vta
board
that
you
know
it's.
It's
such
a
strongly
felt
issue
that
people
are
willing
to
go
and
volunteer
to
pick
this
stuff
up,
and
then
that
really
is
what
I
think
lynch
pinned
and
triggered
the
conversation
of
you
know.
You
know
the
rest
of
the
elected
officials
who
were
very
vociferous.
A
I
I
didn't
realize
how
deeply
felt
that
this
is
throughout
the
entire
geography
of
santa
clara
county,
so
hopefully
that
goes
forward.
Well,
we
also
had
the
the
cities
association,
our
santa
clara
county
cities,
association
meeting.
We
met
on
the
legislative
side.
Interestingly
enough,
the
legislative
discussion
part
of
that
had
to
do
with
the
vta
board
assembly.
Member
berman
is
extending
his
bill
from
last
year
into
a
two-year
bill
and
trying
to
think
about
ways
to
potentially
reform
the
board.
A
For
vta
and
the
governance
structure
with
regard
to
the
rest
of
the
city's
association,
I
sit
in
on
the
regular
meeting
this
year
and
you
know,
with
with
the
time
in
mind,
I'll,
go
ahead
and
refer
that
out
to
you
know
the
rest
of
you
know
I'll
I'll,
provide
some
written
comments
on
that,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.
A
That's
item
number
five
that
is
going
to
be
our
city
managers
report,
that
is
a
city
manager
update
jim.
Please
provide
the
update
for
item
five.
M
L
M
For
covet
updates
february
9th
2022,
the
county
santa
clara
public
health
announced
it
will
not
lift
local
indoor
masking
requirements
when
the
state
does
lift
its
masking
requirement
on
february
16th,
which
is
tomorrow.
Instead,
the
county
is
going
to
continue
to
base
decisions
on
whether
to
lift
the
indoor
masking
requirements
on
the
risks
posed
by
cobit
19,
using
defined
metrics
related
to
vaccination,
hospitalizations
and
cobit
19
cases.
M
However,
the
county
and
does
anticipate
that
it
will
be
able
to
lift
these
indoor
masking
requirements
in
a
matter
of
weeks,
as
the
cape
rate
case
rate
does
continue
to
climb.
I
just
checked
it
a
little
bit
ago
and
it's
actually
dropped
down
some
more
so
right
now
the
requirements
to
lift
the
mandate,
our
hospitalizations
in
the
county
are
low
and
stable,
which
they've
been
and
the
judge
and
send
the
judgment
of
the
health
officer
and
that
the
seven
day
average
of
new
cases
is
at
550
or
below
so
just
a
second
ago.
M
I
checked
it
and
it
was
at
1045,
and
that
was
down
100
from
yesterday.
So
it
is
dropping
some
of
the
other
ones.
We've
talked
about
before
countywide.
There
were
200,
almost
three
hundred
thousand
cases
and
when
I
wrote
this
just
yesterday,
there's
one
thousand
one.
Forty
five
cases
on
the
seven
day
average
case
rates
continue
to
climb.
There
were
about
six
thousand
cases
two
weeks
ago,
so
it's
dropped
down
quite
a
bit
from
then.
M
Let's
see
what
are
some
other
good
numbers.
84
percent
of
the
county's
population
has
been
fully
vaccinated,
which
is
extremely
high
and
69.
67
percent
of
the
eligible
residents
have
also
received
a
booster.
So
then
there's
just
some
other
ones
we've
talked
about
before,
but
with
that
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
the
mayor.
A
And
jim,
did
you
want
to
speak
to
any
of
the
requests
from
public
on
adam's
or.
M
My
yeah,
my
apologies,
so
for
the
lawrence
committee
that
park
we
do
have
so
san
jose
did
go
ahead
and
they
de-annex
that
piece
for
those
that
didn't
know
that
parcel
we
owned.
It
was
actually
in
the
city
of
san
jose,
so
that
has
gone
through.
The
city
has
done
their
first
step.
So
that's
good!
So
that's
been
deannex
from
san
jose.
M
The
next
piece
is
we
worked
hard
chad,
our
city
engineer,
got
that
through
and
he
was
able
to
get
everything
up
and
done.
We
turned
that
into
lafco,
that'll
be
the
next
step,
so
we
should
be
able
to
get
on.
In
fact,
I
see
chad
up
here.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
that?
Chad,
real,
quick.
N
Yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
speak
about
it
briefly.
San
jose
city
council
did
approve
the
resolution
supporting
the
deannexation
from
the
city
of
san
jose
and
the
application
forms
have
been
submitted
to
lafco
and
we're
shooting
to
have
lafcok
and
the
lafco
board
consider
the
annexation
of
the
property
at
their
april
6th
board
meeting
at
this
point
in
time,
we're
waiting
for
them
to
get
through
their
materials
to
make
sure
that
they
have
everything
and
I'm
continuing
to
provide
information
as
they
need
it.
M
And
that
that's
a
big
step
for
us
for
balco,
I'm
gonna,
throw
throw
to
over
here
our
city
attorney
chris,
do
you
have
anything
you
can
add
to
that?
One.
O
So
only
that
you
know
there
there
has
been
utility
make
ready
work
going
on
at
the
site
under
a
building
permit
that
was
issued
in
2020.
O
There's
recently
been
a
pause
to
that
work
to
allow
us
to
continue
to
work
with
our
partners
at
the
county
department
of
environmental
health,
as
well
as
the
developer,
to
make
sure
that
work
is
done
consistently
with
all
applicable
requirements.
And
so
we
are
our
work.
Sort
that
out,
we
anticipated
will
be
a
cooperative
process
from
all
parties
called
to.
A
A
I
Just
one
thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
would
like
to
take
item
number
13
off
of
consent.
A
Okay,
item
number
13
is
the
consideration
of
accounts
payable
for
the
period
ending
january
10th
2022
and
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised
I'll
go
to
our
members
of
the
public.
If
anyone
would
like
to
request
items
to
be
taken
off
consent
at
this
time,
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised,
and
so
let
me
go
back
over
to
our
council.
Can
we
have
a
motion
for
items
6
through
12,
as
well
as
14
through
17,
as
recommended
in
our
agenda
for
passage
council
member
willie?
No
moved
council
member
way?
A
Second,
okay,
I
don't
see
any
further
hands
raised,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
take
a
roll
call
vote
for
the
motion
on
the
table
regarding
consent
items
six
through
twelve
and
fourteen
through
seventeen,
madam
city
clerk.
P
A
Thank
you,
madam
city
clerk
and
so
council,
member
moore,
because
you
pulled
item
number
13
and
that's
an
account
payable
week.
Would
you
like
to
open
this
up
with
regard
to
the
reason
that
you're
pulling
the
item.
I
I
and
looks
like
it's
a
monthly
charge
that
that's
new
to
me.
I
don't
recall
seeing
it
previously.
I
might
have
missed
it.
I
just
want
to
point
that
one
out
and
as
a
matter
of
interest,
blackberry
farm,
pine,
beetle
suppression
of
11
946
dollars,
I'm
only
bringing
that
up
as
a
matter
of
interest
that
they,
it
looks
like
they
have
a
pine
beetle
problem
and
that
can
be
really
devastating.
So
I
hope
that's
successful.
I
Lastly,
west
valley,
community
services,
there
was
an
article
talking
about
a
cupertino
residence
in
the
mercury
news
recently
having
an
increase
of
people
using
their
services,
and
in
that
article
they
mentioned
that
their
west
valley,
community
services,
revenue,
8.7
million
expenses,
5.8
million
and
in
our
in
this
accounts,
payable
statement
payment
register.
I
should
say:
wes
west
valley,
community
services
received
14
306
dollars
for
the
the
homeless,
jobs
program,
homeless,
jobs
program
and,
to
my
knowledge,
that
was
for
it
was
to
assist
two
individuals.
I
So
I
would
like
to
hear
a
report
from
west
valley
con
community
services
about
how
this
program's
going,
where
the
money's
going,
because
that,
if
that's
only
two
individuals,
we're
talking
eighty
four
thousand
dollars
per
year
for
this,
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
if
it's,
if
it
is
being
cost
effective
and
and
in
the
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I'd
actually
like
to
know
how
much
money
we
are
giving
west
valley
community
services,
given
their
8.7
million
dollars
of
revenue.
That
they're
mentioning.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
councilmember
moore,
and
so
is
your
request
here
to
to
hold
this
account
payable
register
until
your
follow-ups
can
be
addressed,
or
are
you
simply
pointing
those
out
as
points
to
note
in
this
item.
I
I
think
mayor
paul.
I
would
like,
with
regards
to
the
storage,
to
know
what
city
policy
is
using
facilities
like
bletch
house,
for
storage
versus
also
having
an
outside
storage
facility,
I'm
kind
of
curious
about
that
and
with
west
valley.
I
would
like
a
report
actually,
so
I
would
like
it
held
to
find
out
what's
going
on.
Thank
you.
K
I
do
believe
west
valley,
community
services
service,
including
a
lot
of
services,
so
that
eight
million
dollars
could
be
a
lot
of
report
and
to
hold
on
to
this.
Because
of
that
I
I
I
just.
I
think
we
should.
We
could
get
a
report
on
it,
but
this
is
part
of
it
to
I.
I
think
we
should
just
let
it
I
mean,
let
it
go
through
but
understand.
What's
the
english
out,
because
eight
million
dollars
that
includes
a
lot
of
things,
not
just
the
jobs
service,
okay,.
A
Thank
you
councilman
before
I
bring
back
to
councilman
moore.
Let
me
just
just
make
a
note.
I
think
council
member
moore's
request
was
to
provide
an
update
on
the
expenditure
that's
listed
in
this
particular
account
payable
with
regard
to
the
the
homeless
jobs
program,
not
the
entirety
of
the
eight
million
dollar
budget.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
so
let's
go
to
the
member
of
the
public
with
a
hand
raised
here:
lisa
warren,
assuming
that
you
are
speaking
on
item
number,
13
I'll,
go
ahead
and
repeat
the
instruction
to
the
members
of
the
public.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
this
item,
please
raise
your
hand
by
the
time
the
first
speaker
is
concluded.
Speaking
if
your
hand
is
raised
by
that
time,
I'll
call
on
you.
If
not,
then
we
will
not
have
you
on
the
speaker
list
for
this
item.
Welcome
lisa
you'll
have
three
minutes.
D
A
Right,
sorry,
thank
you
very
much
all
right,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
bring
this
back
to
our
city
council,
and
so
let
me
ask
staff:
do
you
feel
that
you
have
sufficient
direction
to
follow
up
on
councilmember
moore's
request
prior
to
bringing
the
accounts
payable,
ending
january
10th,
2022
back
to
city
council.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much
city
manager,
troop.
So
let
us
go
on
to
item,
I
believe
is
number
18,
but
let
me
pull
up
my
agenda.
We
are
yes
on
item
number
18.
We
don't
have
any
second
readings
of
ordinances
or
public
hearings.
This
follows
this
item.
Number
18
falls
under
the
heading
ordinances
and
action
items.
We
have
three
this
evening.
Item
number
18.
A
O
Yes,
thank
you,
mayor
members
of
council.
I
will
have
a
brief
presentation.
I
will
attempt
to
share
my
screen
and
hoping
everybody
can
see
the
the
slideshow.
O
We
can
see
it
yes
right,
okay,
so,
as
the
title
indicates,
the
that
this
item
relates
to
a
referral
from
the
santa
clara
county
board
of
supervisors
to
explore
options
for
county
acquisition
of
the
lehigh
cement
plant
glory.
O
O
That
process
had
been
ongoing
when
lehigh
actually
initiated
litigation
against
the
county
last
year
to
attempt
to
compel
the
county
to
process
that
application
and
lehigh
also
sought
judgment
from
the
court
with
respect
to
its
vested
rights
to
continue
and
expand
mining
at
the
location
that
legal
action
was
unsuccessful
and,
as
a
consequence,
lehigh
is
in
the
process
of
has
initiated
the
process
of
environmental
review.
Of
that
reclamation
plan.
Application
with
the
county.
O
There
are
have
have
been
a
significant
history
of
environmental
impacts
and
impacts
on
the
community
from
the
lehigh
plant.
There's
dust
traffic
and
noise
on
cupertino
city
streets
associated
with
hauling
from
the
plant
other
plant
operations.
O
Most
recently,
there
have
been
examples
include
discharges
of
sediment
to
permanente
creek,
which
I
believe
resulted
in
the
nodes
of
violation,
also,
exceedances
of
waterboard
waste
discharge
requirements
for
selenium
in
a
separate
county
referral
network
that
we're
not
actually
discussing
today.
O
The
county
board
of
supervisors
has
had
cash
county
staff
to
provide
more
information
on
the
history
of
environmental
compliance
or
environmental
non-compliance,
as
the
case
may
be
at
the
plant,
and
so
that
will
provide
a
a
an
additional
source
of
information
on
on
some
of
these
violations
and
other
exceedances
at
the
plant.
O
O
O
Just
last
week,
supervisor
savidian
announced
that
he
would
be
making
a
referral
or
requesting
a
referral
to
county
staff,
to
report
back
to
the
board
of
supervisors
within
90
days,
with
options
for
consideration
related
to
the
potential
acquisition
of
the
lehigh
plan,
and
this,
I
think,
is
rightly
characterized
as
a
first
step
in
what
is
likely
to
be
a
long
process
that
will
have
financial
considerations,
environmental
considerations
and
important
considerations
related
to
land
use
that
will
involve
the
county.
O
It
will
certainly
impact
the
city
of
cupertino
and
other
surrounding
cities
and
that
the
the
board
of
supervisors
met
today,
this
this
measure
was
considered
and
the
board
did
approve
the
the
referral
unanimously,
so
staff
at
the
county
has
been
assigned
with
the
task
of
of
beginning
to
investigate
the
options.
O
O
The
the
recommended
action,
as
you
see
in
your
agenda
packet,
is,
is
to
provide
direction
to
the
city,
manager
and
city
attorney
for
a
letter
in
support
of
the
county's
efforts
to
study
acquisition
of
the
lehigh
property,
and
this
recommendation
is
based
both
on
past
council
expressions
of
concern,
as
reflected
to
the
prior
priority
given
for
monitoring
pollution
from
the
lehigh
plant
in
the
current
work
program,
as
well
as
long-standing
expressions
of
community
concern
regarding
the
plant
that
that
said,
this
is
this.
Exploratory
referral
from
the
county
is
very
preliminary.
O
There
are
necessarily
many
unanswered
questions
at
this
stage
of
the
process,
and
so,
as
noted
here,
an
alternative
action
and-
and
I
think
another
reasonable
alternative
available
to
council
would
be
to
monitor
the
county
efforts
to
study
acquisition
of
lehigh
property,
and
then
you
know,
of
course,
retain
the
option
for
taking
a
position
regarding
the
county's
efforts
at
a
later
date,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
this
back
over
to
council
for
any
questions
you
have
for
me
or
other
staff
or,
of
course,
your
comments.
A
A
Worked
in
conjunction
with
you
to
bring
this
to
our
school
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
make
a
note
that
in
our
agenda
I
did
make
a
slight
modification
to
the
recommended.
Action
has
initially
drafted
it
and
thank
you
for
your
help
over
the
course
of
this
last
week
and
a
half
or
so,
and
bringing
this
to
the
forefront,
I
added
the
words
and
otherwise
regarding
regarding
the
letter
in
support
of
these
efforts
by
santa
clara
county.
A
So
let
me
go
ahead
and
open
this
up
to
members
of
the
community.
I
have
jennifer
griffin
with
the
hand
raised
as
well
as
lisa
warren.
The
same
goes
for
this,
as,
as
in
the
past,
we
have
three
minutes
each
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak,
and
if
you
have
your
hands
raised
by
the
time
that
the
first
person
concludes
speaking,
I
will
call
on
you
to
provide
public
comment
for
this
item.
Number
18.
welcome,
jennifer
griffin,.
C
Thank
you,
mayor
darcy.
I
don't
know
if
people
are
aware,
but
the
property
lies
within
cupertino's
lafco
jurisdiction.
We
have
the
right
to
annex
it.
We
have
had
the
right
since
at
least
two
thousand.
I
was
in
the
county
before
and
I
was
aware
at
the
time.
C
Okay,
we
have
discussed
this
before
this
might
be
a
good
plan
of
the
county
purchasing
the
property,
but
I
do
think
that
it
should
go
immediately
to
mid
peninsula,
the
regional
open
space,
the
land
should
it
it's.
It
has
not
been
broken
up
since
the
rancho
days
since
18,
probably
65..
It
was
originally
part
of
the
land
that
was
with
a
ranch
of
san
antonio
property.
There
is
100-year
floodplain
problems
there.
You
cannot
put
housing
in
most
of
those
areas.
C
It
is
a
fire
zone.
Last
summer
those
areas
around
there
were
under
quarantine
because
of
potential
fire
danger.
I
know
that
I
know
people
that
live
in
that
area
that
were
ready
to
evacuate.
So,
if
we're
going
to
be
putting
housing
in
there,
we
need
to
rethink.
C
I
do
not
want
this
3
100
acres
to
become
a
panacea
for
every
person
in
this
state
or
city
that
is
trying
to
put
in
high
density
housing.
You
cannot
put
it
in
there.
That
is
a
fire
zone.
There's
a
hundred
year,
flood
plain
and
the
land
needs
to
be
cleaned
up.
So
this
is
no
panacea
to
solve
all
the
housing
problems.
C
Don't
let
anybody
else
get
it
because
it
has
to
be
either
cleaned
up
and
there
is
a
100-year
flood
plane.
I
know
that
I
have
known
that
my
entire
life,
so
this
is
nobody's
panacea.
This
is
a
bunch
of
land
that
needs
to
become
parkland
or,
and
I
would
feel
more
comfortable.
A
Thank
you
jennifer.
Our
next
speaker
is
lisa.
Warren
lisa
is
followed
by
peggy
griffin
and
we
don't
have
any
further
hands
raised
at
this
point.
So
peggy
will
be
our
last
speaker
on
this
item.
18.
welcome,
lisa.
D
Thank
you
so
just
to
add
a
little
bit
to
what
happened
today
with
the
supervisors.
It
was
unanimous,
though
it
took
all
of
20
minutes
for
the
entire
subject,
because
they
all
know
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
that.
20
minutes
actually
included
three
speakers,
one
being
brian
schmidt
from
greenfoothills
who
was
all
for
it
and
referred
to
midpen,
and
then
brian
malone
from
midpen
itself
said.
D
Yes,
yes,
yes,
shawnee
from
the
audubon
society
also
said
she
had,
of
course,
was
in
support
and
to
return
this
cory
back
to
nature,
and
she
said
that
there
were
130
letters
from
people
in
support
of
this
action
to
do
further
research
on
it,
and
I
believe
it's
a
90-day
time
frame
to
do
that.
So
I
encourage
you
also
to
go
along
with
this.
If
that's
the
way,
you
want
to
put
it
to
support
this,
and
let
all
the
supervisors
know
that
that's
the
case.
D
There
was
a
lot
of
not
a
lot
in
20
minutes,
but
there
was
some
discussion
and
there's
been
some
things
in
writing
about.
D
We
have
examples
of
how
this
can
work
and-
and
I
want
to
add,
given
the
proclamation
that
was
happened
tonight,
I
don't
think
you
can
say
no,
because
this
is
an
opportunity
to
respect
the
right
of
citizens
to
have
healthy
environment,
because
it's
not
healthy
now,
so
there
you
have
it.
Thank
you.
H
Good
evening,
council
and
staff,
I
support
the
previous
speakers.
I
encourage
you
to
support
and
go
with
the
flow,
but
I
also
encourage
you
to
look
into
what
jennifer
griffin
mentioned
about
land
use
and
the
flood
when
you
start
talking
about
lots
of
land
people
get
greedy
and
they
have
these
ideas
on
how
they're
going
to
use
it,
and
I
think
cupertino
since
it
lies
within
cupertino's
boundaries,
should
have
a
very
strong
say
in
what
happens
to
this
land.
H
Anyway,
I
support
the
initial
idea
of
acquire
the
the
county
acquiring
the
land.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
we'll
bring
it
back
up
to
council.
I
see
a
hand
raised
from
council
member
moore
councilmember
moore
before
before
we
have.
You
speak
we'll.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
address
a
couple
of
points
raised
by
members
of
the
public,
so
jennifer
griffin
pointed
out
that
there
is
the
potential
of
annexation.
A
Annexation
is
possible,
but
it
would
have
to
be
voluntary,
even
though
the
land
does
fall
within
the
borders
of,
or
at
least
partly
within
the
borders
of
cupertino
and
our
sphere
of
influence,
it
would
still
require
the
consent
of
the
of
the
property
owner.
So
with
regard
to
future,
you
know
usage
of
the
land,
certainly
the
mid
peninsula
region.
Regional,
open
space
district
is
a
prospective
partner,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
this
comes
down
to
things
like
you
know.
A
What
are
the
the
costs-
and
you
know
the
valuations
and
and
so
forth,
but
I
think
that
we'll
have
a
a
good
discussion
over
the
course
of
time,
starting
with
this
evening
here.
In
terms
of
you
know,
what
are
the
various
factors
we're
going
to
be
considering?
Mining
has
been
going
on
in
this
location.
A
For
you
know
about
100
years
at
this
point,
and
so
it's
not
going
to
be-
you
know,
kind
of
undone
in
a
year,
five
years
or
or
even
in
a
decade,
but
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
first
step.
So,
with
regard
to
you
know
some
of
the
activities
that
we've
undertaken
in
the
last
several
weeks.
Well,
you
know
to
bring
this
forward
to
the
public.
A
We
did
work
pretty
pretty
well
with
our
county
supervisor,
joe
smithian,
as
well
as
a
number
of
the
other
local
jurisdictions,
namely
the
mayors
and
we
put
together
a
press
release
recently
to
indicate
our
support
from
the
cities
of
not
just
cupertino
and
los
altos
and
los
altos
hills.
We
also
had
sunnyvale's
mayor
and
palo
alto
smear
join
us
on
at
the
last
day,
as
we
were
putting
this
together.
A
So
you
know
this
wasn't
a
really
long
and
drawn
out
effort,
but
it
was
one
that
quickly,
you
know,
maintained
a
fair
amount
of
momentum,
so
I
I
you
know
expressed
the
sentiment
internally
that
in
my
seven
years
on
council,
I
actually
haven't
heard
really
strong
opposition
to
the
notion
of
the
mining
ceasing.
You
know
within
our
within
our
residential
base,
you
know,
and
that
goes
for
you
know
any
geographic
region
within
cupertino,
so
you
know
I.
A
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
to
be
said,
for
you
know
you
know
treating
people
fairly,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
we
also
have
a
lot
of
other
considerations.
Like
the
you
know,
current
status
of
our
our
denser
population
in
the
area
and
the
fact
that
you
know
health
is
at
stake.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
considerations
here
that
we'll
need
to
delve
into
as
this
goes
along,
but
let
me
go
ahead
and
start
with
other
council
members
and
their
comments
for,
for
my
own
part,
I
mean
I
pretty
much.
You
know
publicized
my
my
my
support
for
this
referral,
so
I
I
I'll.
P
I
I
If
you
look
in
the
the
written
communications
for
tonight,
the
the
opening
four
pages
has
answers
to
some
of
the
questions
that
I
had
regarding
the
site.
So
there
are
some
maps
in
there.
If
people
are
interested
in
it,
I
think,
as
we
move
forward,
we
should
probably
have
maps
so
that
people
know
the
the
borders
a
little
more.
Clearly,
you
can
see
it's
where
cupertino,
where
cupertino
falls
into
the
quarry
property
one
thing
about
that
site:
they
they
be
began
with
the
cement
mining,
a
cement
manufacturer.
I
I
should
say
limestone
mining
for
the
shasta
dam
and
then
they
did
do
some
bomb
making
aluminum
foil
manufacturer
ended
in
the
80
late
80s.
When
I
first
got
here
they
were,
they
were
actually
burning.
Some
tires
for
fuel,
and
now
it's
petroleum,
coke
they've
been
the
county's
largest
greenhouse
gas
producer,
the
the
largest
I
mean.
I
That's
quite
serious
and
to
my
knowledge,
they
haven't
been
actually
producing
cement
on
site,
but
what
it
looks
like
is
that
they
the
way
the
the
rules,
if
you
will
are
written
up,
they
can
stall
beginning
reclamation
for
about
15
years
after
they
have
a
ceased
operation,
so
it
could
be
a
really
a
long
long
wait
for
them
to
start
their
reclamation.
So
there
there
are
a
few
items
that
I
would
like
included
and
sent
onto
the
board
of
supervisors.
I
Regarding
this
project.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
time
if
you
want
some
input
later
on.
I
can.
I
can
add
that
I
I
am
concerned
about
the
because
there
are
talks
of
having
housing,
I'm
concerned
about
a
comparison
of
the
contamination.
That's
already
there
at
the
site
versus
residential
screening
levels
in
the
future.
Is
it
even
feasible.
I've
heard
some
questions
about
that.
The
feasibility
for
having
housing
there
and.
I
Is
that
simply
you
know
they
must
do
their
due
diligence
with
regards
to
having
a
complete
assessment
of
the
contamination,
the
potential
future
uses
and
their
required
screening
levels,
but
they
are
in
step
with
the
community's
will
to
have
what
looks
like
a
spent
operation
begin
the
last
chapter
and
have
that
scar
that
we've
been
looking
at
on
the
heel
on
the
hillside
finally
healed
and
reclaimed
back
to
a
usable
state.
That'd
be
great.
Thank
you.
Okay,
thank.
L
Yeah
great
that
councilman
moore
she
essentially
covered
the
things
of
interest.
I
would
ask
that
I
think
maybe
the
city
attorney
could
put
that
first
page,
that
councilman
moore
was
referring
to
the
aerial
map
of
that.
I
think
it's
always
good
that
the
community
kind
of
understand
the
the
magnitude
of
what
we're
talking
about
whether
it's
a
park
or
it's
lehigh.
L
Great,
so
what
I
would
say,
then,
I'm
well
great.
So
let
me
start
with
my
note:
the
history
of
the
lehigh
for
the
for
the
years
that
I've
been
in
cupertino.
L
You
know
we
keep
going
to
the
meetings,
some
of
them,
you
know,
get
held
here
in
cupertino
and
we
see
the
long
list
of
violations
and
it
it's
not
something
that's
legacy.
It's
you
know
current
violations
or
just
ongoing
pollution
violations
and,
of
course
it's
concerning
to
all
of
us,
and
so
with
this
type
of
a
history
I
mean,
of
course
you
know
we
should
be
trying
to
move
in
the
direction
of
stopping
that
type
of
pollution
and
affecting
so
many
people.
L
So
now,
when
we
get
to
this
and
the
first
resident
that
was
talking
about
annexing,
can
we
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
how
it
lays
into
the
cupertino
borders
versus
los
altos
and
los
altos
hills?
You
know,
on
the
one
hand,
we're
just
the
very
west
west
side
of
cupertino
touching
it
but
and
the
whole
road.
No,
please
keep
the
map
up
there,
because
that's
what
we're
referring
to
is
this
city
attorney
or
public
works?
L
Able
to
kind
of
tell
us
of
that
3
000
acres,
you
know
where
do
those
three
municipalities
play
in
santa
clara
county
so
for
the
first
map
I
think,
is
the
easiest
to
understand,
because
it's
got
the
I
what
I
would
consider
to
be
the
3000
plus
acres,
where
this
is
pretty
much
just
focused
on
the
the
mining
operation.
O
Part
of
that
question,
I
I'm
not
sure
that
I
can
answer
the
entire
question.
The
reason
I
put
this
up
is
this
is
taken
from
the
county
lafco
site
and
that
red
line,
which
it's
I
understand
it's
hard
to
see
here,
shows
this
cupertino
urban
service
area
found.
O
So
that's
that's
not
necessarily
the
cupertino
city
limits
which
are
more
constrained,
but
but
these
are
the
areas
that
have
already
been
you
know,
designated
by
lafco,
as
within
cupertino's
urban
service
area.
L
Good,
so
if
you
go
back
to
that
previous
slide,
so
we
again,
we
can
just
kind
of
see
the
the
magnitude
of
you
know
that
it
really
is
santa
clara
and
los
altos
hills
and
los
altos
and
really
belongs.
I
think,
with
midpen,
as
opposed
to
an
annexation
type.
That
cupertino
would
then
somehow
be
over
or
part
of
reclamation
for
such
a
huge
operation.
L
So
obviously
we
don't
have
that
kind
of
information
tonight,
but
I
think
we
really
need
to
have
our
eyes
open
and
make
sure
that
the
organization
with
enough
enough
authority
and
ability
to
make
sure
that
that
whole
site
is
addressed.
You
know
15
years
worth
so
I'll.
Leave
it
at
that
for
tonight.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
city
attorney.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
bob.
You
know
this.
This
lehigh
and
stiffness
pearl
curry
has
been
in
cupertino's
eye
for
a
long
long
time.
I
know
a
lot
of
residents
really
pay
attention
and
provide
details,
especially
I
want
to
mention
rotor
5,
who
really
you
know,
is
on
top
of
this.
So
I
really
like
to
thank
our
representative,
ed
county
supervisor,
joe
smitten,
for
bringing
this
up
as
mayor
says,
mayor
process.
K
This
is
just
the
beginning
of
a
very,
very
long
process,
so
our
position
right
now
really
is
to
support
joe
smitten
and
our
and
other
supervisors
to
support
to
start
this
process.
So
in
yes,
we
do
want
to
eventually.
If
this
really
happens,
you
know
the
land
use
everything
the
reclamation
has
to
be
paying
in
details,
but
at
this
moment
this
is
a
long
long
way
to
go.
K
With
positive,
you
know,
reinforcement
from
our
residents
from
the
city
council
from
the
staff,
so
I
I
really
want
to
thank
personally
our
tiny
board
of
supervisors,
joe
smith,
and
for
really
moving
this
forged
this
hat
and
then
on
behalf
of
the
residents
not
just
in
cupertino
but
all
around
the
cement
and
stevens
prairie
area.
So
let's
support
it.
J
Hi,
this
is
really
welcome
news.
That's
long
awaited
and
I
think
cupertino
has
been
taking
a
strong
stance
against
the
pollution
by
lehigh
and
the
staff
city
staff
has
written
some
really
strong
letters
to
advocate
for
us
and
the
cupertino
residents
have
suffered
for
so
many
many
years
throughout
the
operation
of
the
cement
plant.
J
We
of
course,
are
delighted
that
the
country
is
exploring
options
to
acquire
it,
but
I
wonder
maybe
it's
too
early,
but
maybe
we
should
mention,
since
they
will
explore
options
that
we
can
request
the
county
to
ensure
cupertino
residents
have
a
strong
say
on
the
future,
use
of
that
land
and
either
maybe
even
annex
a
portion
of
it,
and
so
that's
one
thing.
Another
thing
that's
mentioned
by
about.
I
think
the
rhoda
fry
is
the
hammond
property.
That's
right!
J
Next
to
the
cement
plant,
the
the
county
in
2012
ordered
it
to
be
vacated
because
they
they
simply
couldn't
mitigate
the
pollution
from
lehigh
and
now
that
property
has
not
been
occupied,
and
so
would
the
plan
also
consider
restoration
of
this
historical
home
and
fund
the
historical
restoration
of
that
home
on
for
cupertino.
J
Maybe
that
could
be
one
thing
that's
considered,
and
then
I
have
a
question.
Lehigh
cement
and
the
stephens
corey
are
two
separate
operators.
So
is
this?
Does
this
plan
include
the
stevens
creek
quarry
also
not.
J
A
So
chris,
I'm
not
really
sure
whether
the
the
quarry
itself
is
encompassed
in
this.
From
what
I
heard
during
the
process,
there
was
a
question
about
the
quarry
and
I
I
think
it
was
actually
included
in
it.
But
when
I,
when
I
look
at
the
more
details
of
the
referral,
it
does
seem
to
focus
a
bit
more
on
the
cement
factory.
Q
O
My
my
understanding
is
that
operations
at
stevens
creek,
which
you
know
I
believe
the
vice
mayor's
correct,
is
under
separate
ownership,
are,
are
not
would
not
be.
O
A
Yeah,
I
mean
my
understanding
of
it.
You
know
having
having
been
right
in
the
process,
as
this
was
being
formulated,
was
that
this
actually
does
include
the
gravel
quarry,
but
it's
also
something
that's
in
a
very
early.
You
know
formation.
So
if
that's
something
that
we
want
to
explicitly,
you
know
have
as
a
consideration,
then
I
I
I
do
think
that
we
should
call
that
out.
A
Specifically,
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
you
know
language,
the
specific
language
of
the
referral,
it
is
kind
of
crafted
in
a
way
to
be
open
to
interpretation.
So
that's
a
really
good
question
vicente
ciao
before
I
go
to
councilman
moore
I
I
did
want
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
here.
A
You
know
we
we
do
find
ourselves
in
a
moment
of
opportunity,
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
remind
everyone
of
the
fact
that
we
don't
get
to
this
moment
of
opportunity
without
a
lot
of
people
working
into
really
really
granular
detail
and
a
lot
of
tenacity
over
the
years,
and
so
you
know
it
is
indeed
members
of
the
public
that
have
you
know,
provided
that
tenacity
and
a
lot
of
the
detailed
work.
A
It's
also
members
of
our
council
that
have
you
know,
pushed
over
the
years,
not
just
our
current
council,
but
prior
council
as
well,
and
so
I
would
just.
I
would
just
point
out
that
you
know
they're
all
part
and
parcel
of
what
are
what's
really
just
a
positive
thing,
although
it
doesn't
necessarily
seem
that
way.
All
the
time
you
know
if
people
are
advocating
for
a
particular
position
in
one
specific
issue,
okay,
it
may
seem,
like
you
know
that
advocacy
tends
to
attack.
A
You
know
those
that
ask
questions
and
get
into
those
details,
but
that's
part
and
parcel
of
exactly
why
we
are
here
in
this
moment
of
time
to
be
able
to
take
a
100
year,
polluting
and
mining
operation
and
and
start
asking
the
critical
questions
as
to
you
know
when
we're
at
this
point.
What
can
we
be
doing
to
potentially
be
you
know,
shutting
down
that
operation
after
years
and
years
decades
of
of
effort,
and
I
think
people
really
should
ask
themselves.
A
Why
are
we
here,
and
you
know
why
are
we
here
with
this
particular
council,
bringing
this
forward
when
there
has
been
so
much?
You
know
so
much
heat
you
know
set
forth
in
in
past
years
and
and
and
past
sessions
to
try
to
get
to
the
point
where
we're
at
right.
Now
the
other
thing
that
I'll
point
out
you
know
I've
been
talking
about
making
sure
that
our
communications
mechanism
is
shored
up
within
cupertino,
and
you
know
I.
A
I
don't
feel
that
it
would
be
fair
for
me
not
to
mention
this.
This
is
a
prime
example
of
why
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
capability
of
communicating
of
you
know,
setting
forth
our
story.
A
This
is
an
issue
that
is
basically
something
that
unites
the
entirety
of
our
city,
and
so
when
I
try
to
go
forward
and
make
sure
that
we're
communicating
this,
it
does
feel
kind
of,
like
you
know,
win
behind
the
sales,
although,
as
it
goes,
you
know
it's
interesting
that
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
people
out
from
the
public.
A
You
know
looking
at
this
this
evening,
but
at
the
same
time
I
I
know
we
have
that
that
support,
but
when
I,
when
I
say
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
communicate,
you
know
I
leave
out
the
fact
that
you
know
city
attorney
jensen.
You
know
basically
wrote
the
press
release,
you
know
skeleton
and
I
basically
wrote
the
rest
of
it
right,
and
so
you
know
given
the
fact
that
that
there's
that
much
work
going
on
that
much
coordination,
you
know
within
the
mechanisms
that
are
not
really.
A
That's
precisely
what
I
mean,
and
I
think
we're
at
a
fortunate
point
in
time
that
we
have
that
wherewithal
on
our
council
and
in
parts
of
our
staff
to
be
able
to
set
that
forward,
but
I
also
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
very
serious
look
at
not
just
the
quality
and
the
you
know,
aspersions
that
are
cast
at
that
quality
of
detail
and
commitment
to
these
various
issues,
but
also
you
know
when
we
point
out
that
there
are
particular
areas
that
we
need
to
work
on.
A
It
would
be
much
appreciated
if
we
don't
have.
You
know,
piled
on.
You
know
interest-laden
aspersions
cast
at
us,
because
it
is
precisely
that
type
of
effort
that
can
bring
forward
this
type
of
measure.
So
that's
the
that's
the
point
I
wanted
to
make
and
you
know,
as
I've
taken
you
know
to
saying
in
the
recent
past,
I'm
here
for
another
nine
or
ten
months.
A
You
know
I'm
bringing
my
seven
years
and
then
some
too
to
bear,
and
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
I
say
you
know
bless
all
of
you,
but
at
the
same
time,
let's
be
sensible
about
how
we
go
forward,
let's
be
sensible
about
how
we
go
forward
with
this,
how
we
go
forward
with
any
number
of
issues
you
know,
including
you
know,
development
and
you.
R
A
Be
it
like,
you
know
personal
interest
or
profit
driving,
you
know
kind
of
motivations.
I
mean
people
need
to
come
to
their
senses
with
regard
to
what
makes
sense
and
what's
fair.
So
thanks
very
much
for
you
know
entertaining
that
I'll
go
on
to
council
member
more
at
this
point,
for
you
know,.
I
I
have
a
couple
of
comments,
one
with
with
regards
to
casting
aspersions-
I
I
think
that's
part
and
parcel
of
being
in
politics
and
and
making
making
decisions.
People
are
gonna
question
them
and
I
think
that's
just
what
happens.
There
was
a
statement
about
with
regards
to
the
snyder
hammond
house,
the
conditions
of
the
conditions
of
approval
from
2012
conditions
43
through
45.,
it's
available
on
the
county
website.
I
43
and
44
essentially
say
you
need
to
use
this
type
of
equipment
and
provide
us
information
about
what
equipment
you're
using
and
then
in
lieu
of
those
in
lieu
of
doing
that
in
lieu
of
conditions,
43
and
44,
the
mine
operator
may
submit
within
90
days
of
the
rpa
approval
evidence
establishing
that
the
planning
managers
to
the
planning
manager
satisfaction
that
there
are
legally
binding
restrictions
precluding
any
occupancy
of
the
caretakers
residents
located.
That's
it's
the
snyder
hammond
residence.
I
So
there
there
were
two
ways
they
could
have
gone
with
this
and
you
know
we
can
discuss
that
another
time.
But
I
think
it's
interesting
about
helping
the
snyder
hammond
house
in
the
county's
responsibility,
yeah
an
interesting
question
and
I
did
pull
up
the
the
agenda.
It
was
item
13
on
the
board
of
supervisors
meeting
today
and
I
do
not
think
it
includes
the
the
stephens
creek
quarry.
I
There
is
a
quarry
operation
which
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about,
so
they
are
essentially
grinding
rock
now
and
they
they
had
stopped
back
in
2014
and
they
had
gotten
approval
to
continue
with
some
new
equipment.
I
believe
in
2020-
and
I
have
some
questions
about
that,
and
I
want
to
thank
community
member
rhoda
fry
for
bringing
all
this
information
to
us.
I
I
I
am
in
complete
support
of
the
the
acquisition
by
the
county
of
this
of
this
property
within
the
written
communications
provided
by
our
city
attorney.
There,
I
believe,
is
a
link
to
the
mid
pen
letter
where
midpen
indicates
that
they
would
like
it
returned
to
open
space.
So
I
think
that
that
their
their
wishes
are
really
important
here.
I
So,
as
I
had
said
earlier,
it
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
a
really
accurate
assessment
of
the
site,
because
it's
my
understanding
that
reclamation
will
return
it
to
a
usable
area
a
space,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
all
of
the
contamination
in
the
ground
is
cleaned
up.
Okay,
so
there
might
be
individuals
who
are
interested
in
housing
down
the
road
that
would,
in
my
understanding,
would
be
something
further
for
remediation
beyond
what
a
reclamation
plan
would
provide.
I
But
if,
if
people
are
interested
go
to
the
county
website,
just
google
lehigh
santa
clara
county
and
you'll
find
that
they
have
a
tentative
2019
reclamation
plan,
which
is
different
from
the
2012
plan
and
one
of
the
things
that
changed
is
at
the
west
materials
storage
area.
The
designation
for
it
has
changed,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
the
name
wrong.
I
I
If,
once
the
county
got
the
got,
the
project
got
the
property
and
had
a
plan
in
hand.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Yeah
and
speaking
of
having
a
plan
you
know
I
I
wish
my
colleagues
the
very
best
of
luck.
You
know,
I'm
happy
to
you
know,
lend
the
resources
that
I've
been
able
to
bring
to
bear
up
to
this
point.
But
you
know
with
regard
to
the
casting
of
aspersions,
I
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
note
that
we
did
pass
a
lobbying
ordinance
recently,
and
so
I
absolutely
agree
with
you.
A
So
you
know,
with
regard
to
your
comments,
councilmember
moore,
you
know
I
did
pull
the
referral
and
what
I
will
tell
you
is
that
when
we
were
having
these
discussions
there
was
a
specific
question
with
regard
to
whether
the
gravel
quarry
was
part
of
these
discussions,
and
so
the
answer
at
that
time
was
that,
yes,
it
was
indeed
part
of
these
discussions.
A
But
if
I
look
at
the
language
of
the
final
referral-
yes,
I
I'm
parsing,
you
know
various
subjects
and
you
know
conjugations
of
the
verb
to
be
to
see
whether
we're
talking
about
when
they
say
the
lehigh
cement
plant
and
quarry
refers
to
multiple
properties.
A
In
one
sentence,
it
does
say
it
is
in
historical
anachronism,
and
so
yes,
it
does
seem
like
the
way
that
this
referral
is
written.
It
refers
only
to
one
of
the
properties,
and
so
I
I
would
say
as
a
point
of
information
that
could
be
conveyed
to
the
board
of
supervisors.
A
A
So,
with
regard
to
the
other
aspects
of
making
sure
that
we
have
full
information
regarding
reclamation
and
responsibilities
and
obligations
and
the
scope
of
what
needs
to
be
done
absolutely,
I
I
would
support
making
sure
that
we
make
mention
of
those
parts
of
the
work,
but
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
adhering
to
something
that
council
member
way
pointed
out
that
we
have
to
keep
our
eye
on
the
fact
that
this
is
really
the
law.
The
broad-based
picture
is
very
straightforward
and
it's
fairly
simple.
You
know
there's.
A
Here
they
want
to
make
sure
that
their
staff
and
the
county
comes
back
in
90
days
to
give
them
some
options,
and
so
we
are
so
we
are
in
support
as
a
basic
matter.
You
know
of
that
referral,
which
is
you
know
essentially
what's
in
front
of
us
at
this
point,
and
I
I
think
we
can
add
that
other
material
you
know
as
as
described
by
yourself
and
others
so,
council,
member
willie,
you
have
your
hand
raised
at
this
point.
Councilmember
willie.
I
I
will
ask
for
a
motion
at
this
time.
A
So
would
you
like
to
bring
forward
something
yeah.
L
So
so,
yes
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
the
motion
to
draft
and
prepare
and
submit
a
letter
of
in
support
of
the
submitting
and
the
county's
effort
to
do
that
study
for
the
next
90
days.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
council,
member
willie
and
councilman
willie.
Would
you
be
willing
to
add
to
incorporate
the
comments
shared
by
our
council
members
in
this
discussion
as
well
within
the
draft
of
that
letter.
A
L
So
I
I
was
just
going
to
make
the
comment.
You
know
that
it's
been
my
understanding
that
the
a
large
amount,
if
not
all,
of
the
material
that
stephen's
creek
quarry,
is
processing,
is
coming
from
lehigh,
and
that
was
the
purpose
for
the
illegal
haul.
Road
was
to
allow
all
the
spoils
from
lehigh
to
be
transferred
over
to
the
stephens
creek
quarry.
L
Is
it
all
or
is
it
most
or
is
it
part,
but
I
think
if
the
material
from
lehigh
is,
you
know
ceases
that
in
itself
may
mean
that
it's
not
profitable
for
stevens
creek
quarry
to
to
be
in
business.
L
If
and
when
this
comes
back
to
us.
Hopefully
we
have
could
have
staff
come
back
and
tell
us
how
those
two
are
intertwined,
so
we
may
find
that
all
they
need
to
do
is
to
address
the
the
lehigh
and
it
automatically
takes
care
of
the
the
entire
area
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
councilmember
willie,
and
you
know
as
either
the
drafter
or
the
person
in
charge
of
who's
going
to
be
drafting.
Let
me
refer
this
to
city
attorney
jensen.
So,
chris,
with
regard
to
customer
willie's
last
comment:
do
you
feel
you
have
sufficient
guidance
with
regard
to
the
interplay
between
the
rock
quarry
and
the
cement
plant?
To
add
that
you
know
particular
point
to
the
other
ones
that
have
been
raised
tonight
and
this
evening's
discussion.
O
Yes,
sufficient
guidance.
Additional
research
will
be
required,
but
sufficient
guidance
to
do
that.
A
You
know
just
mention
of
that
with
regard
to
that
hall
road
that
was
unpermitted
and
then
discovered
after
the
fact,
so,
but
I'm
sure
that
you
can
make
a
nexus-
and
you
know,
follow
up
in
the
manner
that
council
member
willie
is,
is
describing
as
well
correct,
correct,
yes,
okay,
great
all
right,
so
the
motion
is
made
by
council
member
willie
I've
seconded
unless
someone
else
wants
a
second,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
you
know,
take
my
second
off
table
and
someone
else
wants
to
go
on
the
record
as
seconding
this
one.
A
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised.
Are
there
any
other
further
comments
or
questions
from
my
colleagues
and
council
councilmember
way.
K
Yes,
I
have
a
question
on
exactly
the
motion.
The
motion
is
to
authorize
rc
attorney
to
write
a
letter
incorporating
all
the
points
that's
been
mentioned
by
the
console
or
exact.
What
points
are
we
well.
A
The
ones
that
I
have
council
member
way
have
to
do
with
the
assessment
of
contamination,
how
long
a
reclamation
can
be
delayed.
Contamination
issues
with
regard
to
consideration
of
you
know,
potential
development
and
making
sure
that
that
is,
you
know
placed
at
the
forefront.
If
you
know
the
development
issue
becomes
part
of
the
calculus,
I
don't
expect
it
to
be.
At
this
point
I
mean
at
this
point
it
becomes
fairly
clear
that
this
is
a
90-day
referral
to
the
county,
to
provide.
A
You
know,
options
for
foreclosure
in
particular,
and
then
council
member
willie
mentioned
I'm
talking
about
the
the
hall
road
that
goes
or
that
went,
I
should
say,
between
the
cement
factory
and
the
gravel
quarry,
and
you
know
the
repercussions
coming
off
of
the
the
the
potential
closure
of
the
cement
factory
and
and
whether
that
would
help
to
alleviate
some,
if
not
all,
of
the
concerns
regarding
the
other
mining
operations.
A
So
so
so
that's
what
I
have
I
mean
chris,
do
you
have
a
different
or
additional
set
of
factors
that
you
were
tracking
no.
O
I
think
I
think
that's,
that's
that's
a
good
summary
I
have.
I
have
I've
been
taking
notes
of
council's
comments
and
will
it
incorporate
them?
You
know
into
the
comments
the
city
provides.
You
know,
understanding
that
the
drafting
will
be
a
process.
There
will
be
some
discretion
involved
in
that.
K
Can
I
ask
follow-up
with
this
so
but.
K
A
Yeah,
I
didn't
hear
any
conditioning
upon
you
know
the
the
other
points
being
discussed
by
council.
K
A
Right,
I
mean
it's
support
for
for
all
with
additional
points.
You
know
that
we're
raising
and
would
like
to
have
considered
at
some
point.
I
Okay,
thank
you
mayor,
paul,
actually,
how
I
oh
I
came
upon.
I
Robert
salisbury's
name
was
looking
at
a
letter
the
county
had
posted,
which
was
a
statement
of
inadequacy
for
their
financial
assurance
cost
estimate,
and
that
was
for
their
reclamation
and
they
had
about
27
points
that
they
had
took
issue
with
for
their
face
calculation
and
the
new
calculation
per
the
the
surface,
mining
and
reclamation
act,
they
said
was
due
february
11th,
and
so
I
wanted
to
know
if
the
new
cost
estimate
was
provided,
they
had
a
cost
estimate
of
around
60
million
dollars,
and
what
I
learned
is
that
they
were
given
an
extension
until
april
to
provide
that
that
dollar
amount.
I
Now
that's
important,
because
you're
talking
about
a
90-day
turnaround
from
the
county
to
provide
them
some
with
some
information,
so
it
would
be
really
important.
I
would
assume
for
the
county
to
know
what
the
estimate
is
for
reclamation.
If
it's
really
more
like
a
hundred
million
dollars,
the
county
needs
to
have
that
that
dollar
amount
in
on
hand.
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up
and
all
of
these
things
they're,
like
I
said,
they're
available
on
the
county
website.
I
If
anyone
else
wants
to
look
it
up
and
then
some
of
the
questions
that
I
have
I
can
I
I
can
get
the
answers
offline
with
regards
to
the
error
quality
contamination
reporting
that
they
have
with
regards
to
the
quarry
operation,
which
they've
restarted.
J
So
one
more
point
is:
we
hope
that
to
stress
that
cupertino
and
neighboring
cities
who
have
suffered
from
the
pollution
should
have
a
strong
say
on
the
future
use
of
the
property,
and
I
think
when
they
explore
options,
invariably
they
are
going
to
talk
about
uses
over
the
property.
J
So
I
think
we
should
state
that
now,
in
the
letter.
J
A
I
I'm
fine
with
adding
that
point
council
member
willie.
Are
you
okay
with
that
as
the
mover?
Absolutely
okay?
So
so
I'm
fine
with
adding
that
as
a
secondary
promotion.
A
All
right,
madam
city
clerk,
if
you
could
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
for
the
motion
on
the
table.
P
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much.
We
are
now
on
item
19
and
the
subject
of
item
19
is
the
consideration
of
an
update
on
the
via
cupertino,
on-demand
community
shuttle
pilot
program.
There's
a
proposed
grant
application
from
the
california
state
transportation
agency
or
calsta
the
transit
and
inner
city
rail
capital
program.
Under
that
agency
or
tircp.
A
We
have
a
presentation
from
chris
carreo,
our
senior
transit
and
transportation
planner.
Who
is
our
key
staff
person
helping
us
administer
the
via
shuttle
program
and
yeah?
I
we
we've
been
working
as
well.
I've
been
working
the
last
few
days
to
try
to
refer
chris
to
a
couple
of
our
partner
and
neighboring
agencies
in
santa
clara
and
san
jose,
to
see
whether
we
can
perhaps
partner
with
multi-jurisdictional.
A
You
know
possibilities
of
expanding
our
via
shuttle
program.
So
chris
thanks
very
much
and
please
take
away
the
presentation
all
right.
Thank.
R
You
for
your
your
help
with
that
outreach
mayor
paul
good
evening,
council
members
and
members
of
the
public,
the
via
cupertino
pilot
program,
began
in
october
2019,
and
this
pilot
is
currently
scheduled
to
end
in
october
of
2022
of
this
year
to
date.
R
At
the
time
that
this
presentation
was
made,
the
the
programs
provided
almost
17
000
trips,
the
most
the
majority
of
these
trips
happened
from
the
launch
of
the
program
in
october
2019
right
up
until
march
of
2020,
when,
when
kobit,
when
the
shelter
and
place
orders
were
given
by
the
county,
we've
done,
nearly
300
ada
rides
in
our
two
wheelchair
accessible
vans
and
since
the
relaunch
in
october,
we've
done
almost
2.
000
new
rides.
R
This
slide
here
shows
you
a
really
really
it's
like
a
graphic
timeline
of
of
the
ridership
since
the
launch
of
the
program
into
february,
and
what
you
can
see
is
since,
when
we
originally
launched
this
program
in
october
2019,
we
had
a
rapid
increase
in
ridership
right
until
about
march,
when
kovitz
struck,
and
then
we
did
run
and
operate
through
covid
until
august,
with
very
limited
ridership
to
different
destinations,
mostly
whole
foods
and
those
types
of
essential
destinations.
R
And
then,
since
we
relaunched
that
is
the
teal
the
teal
bars
on
the
right.
So
you
can
see,
we've
had
a
steady
increase
since
relaunch
even
with
the
omicron
variant
we
saw
increases.
We've
had
increases
in
ridership
week
over
week,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
students
riding
the
the
school
use
case
is
really
strong
right
now,
and
we
believe
that
the
population
that's
missing.
The
most
are
the
is
the
daily
workforce.
R
This
slide
here
shows
this
a
graphic
representation
of
our
ridership
since
relaunch
these
are
pickups,
and
then
the
next
slide
are
drop
offs,
and
if
I
toggle
back
and
forth,
you
can
kind
of
see
the
movement
patterns
and,
what's
really
interesting,
is
that
the
destinations
really
have
not
changed
from
pre-covered
to
since
relaunch
same
destinations,
just
less
volume.
R
This
slide
shows
you
what
has
changed,
and
that
is
the
hours
during
the
day
in
which
the
system's
busy
before
we
had
sort
of
this
commute
pattern
in
the
morning
and
in
the
evening
now,
we
seem
to
get
most
of
our
ridership
in
the
afternoon
right
around
three
o'clock
four
o'clock.
R
This
slide
also
shows
hours
in
which
we
don't
operate
and
that
that's
that
represents
people
that
try
to
to
get
a
ride
on
the
app
that
get
a
message
that
we're
we're
not
currently
operating.
So
it's
an
interesting
thing
for
us
to
to
track
also
as
we
consider
expanding
in
the
future
and
as
funding
allows
us
to
expand
our
hours.
R
R
Takeaways
is
that
we've
learned
is
that
most
of
our
via
riders
are
not
vta
riders
and
a
via
didn't
exist
would
be
driving
single
occupant
vehicles,
which
is
exactly
what
we
were
hoping
for
this.
We
know
that
69
of
our
riders
switched
from
driving
to
riding
via,
and
then
we
also
have
some
people
that
were
using
the
ride
program.
R
R
The
one
thing
that's
kind
of
interesting
is
that
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
people
going
to
kaiser
before
at
least
it
wasn't
in
our
top
five,
and
now
it
is
since
relaunch,
but
still
caltrain
is
making
up
the
bulk
of
our
requests.
It's
the
most
popular
destination
and
the
most
popular
pickups
point
followed
by
the
the
schools,
all
of
our
middle
and
high
schools
throughout
the
community.
R
When
we
look
at
the
data
to
see
who's
writing,
we
have
an
inter
we
have
a.
We
have
a
mix
we
have
about.
Half
represented
in
blue
are
riders
that
are,
I'm
sorry
represented
and
blew
our
riders
that
were
had
signed
up
before
kovid
with
the
original
launch
of
the
program
and
are
now
riding
with
us
again
and
in
red.
Those
are
new
riders.
R
This
is
a
graph
graphic
that
shows
you
where
people
live,
that
have
downloaded
the
app
and
ride
via
in
cupertino,
and
you
can
see
that
it's
obviously
in
cupertino
we
have
the
highest
concentration,
but
in
sunnyvale
santa
clara,
even
down
in
campbell
and
san
jose.
There
are
quite
a
few
people
that
are
that
have
the
app
on
their
phone
that
are
writing
via,
obviously
that
either
work
in
cupertino
or
our
students.
R
The
grant
is
administered
by
the
california
state,
transportation
agency
or
calsta.
It's
a
grant.
That
is
generally
meant
for
rail
projects,
large
capital
infrastructure
infrastructure
projects.
However,
this
year
does
offer
funding
for
micro
transit
projects
that
can
boost
rail
ridership
and
the
grant
is
generally
favors
projects
that
are
larger
in
scale
that
serve
large
communities
that
are
gener,
that
have
communities
of
concern
or
equity
zones,
lower
income
areas
included
and
and
bring
riders
to
rail
transit.
R
And
so
what
we're
proposing
is
an
expansion
of
the
via
program
into
sunnyvale,
santa
clara
and
san
jose,
and
also
including
adding
the
mountain
view,
cal
train
station
and
el
camino
hospital
as
as
islands.
So
they
would
not
be
in
the
main
service
area.
R
R
We
don't
have
hard
numbers
yet,
but
I
can
talk
about
what
what
what
we're
currently
looking
at.
So
the
grant
is
a
five-year
long
grant
that,
if
awarded,
we
would
likely
begin
in
january
2023
from
what
we're
designing
right
now,
a
we're
trying
to
design
the
most
competitive
application
possible.
R
So
we're
mapping
out-
and
you
have
attached
to
your
staff
report
this
evening-
two
phases
of
an
expansion,
and
so
what
it's
looking
like
is
that
in
the
first
year
the
the
estimates
would
be
approximately
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
that
that
each
year
would
increase
by
approximately
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
reaching
500
to
600
thousand
dollars,
and
that
would
sort
of
be
the
steady
state
operating
costs
moving
forward
and
the
reason
for
that
slow
increase
is
to
give
communities
buying
in
an
opportunity
to
to
find
the
funds.
R
So
that
is
still
being
worked
out.
Those
numbers
are
still
being
worked
out.
We
have
been
in
discussions
with
all
of
the
communities
and
we
have
had
an
informational
meeting
with
cal
sda
to
ask
questions
about
the
grant
and
we
were
told
that
the
notification
of
an
award,
if
we
do
go
after
this
grant
will
be
in
june
2022.
R
We
were
also
told
that
candidly,
that,
if
this
grant,
if
we're
awarded
a
partial
award,
that
it's
very
likely
this
particular
grant
will
get
replenished
by
the
state
because
there's
another
large
expenditure
coming
through
the
pipeline.
R
So,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
this
particular
application
is
successful,
we
are
definitely
looking
for
opportunities
to
expand
via
because
it's
been
a
program.
That's
been
really
enjoyed
by
the
community
and
the
one
question.
The
one
thing
people
always
ask
or
complain
about
is
that
they
can't
go
to
more
destinations.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
to
the
council,
I'm
available
for
questions
and
also
krista
gladspock,
who
is
the
western
u.s
partnerships
manager
for
via,
is
also
online
tonight
with
us.
A
Great
thanks
chris
and
thank
you
krista
before
we
go
to
our
members
of
council
with
questions
or
follow-up
comments,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
this
up
to
the
public
for
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
item
number
19
and
I
see
jennifer
griffin
with
a
hand
raised,
welcome
jennifer
I'll,
remind
our
members
of
the
public
that
you'll
please
need
to
have
your
hand
raised
by
the
time.
Jennifer
is
done
speaking
in
order
to
be
called
on
to
speak
on
this
item,
number
19.
welcome,
jennifer.
C
Thank
you,
mayor
darcy.
Yes,
I've
tried
the
vf
program.
It
sounds
like
it's
been
a
real
success.
I
think
it's
a
really
really
good
plan.
I'm
just
gonna
throw
in
a
word
of
caution
here,
since
I've
just
become
so
pessimistic
about
our
state.
Are
we
going
to
be
if
we
accept
this
money
from
the
state?
C
Are
we
going
to
be
beholden
to
anything?
Does
this
mean
that
we
can
keep
operating
via
with
the
current
vehicles
that
we
have
we're
not
going
to
get
a
mandate
that
all
of
a
sudden?
We
don't
because
we
accepted
the
money
that
we
have
to
start
putting
in
railroad
tracks
or
we
have
to
put
in
light
rail
down
the
middle
of
stephens
creek
boulevard.
I
mean
I
I
hate
to
say
this.
C
I
am
so
jaded
by
some
of
the
stuff
coming
out
of
sacramento
that
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
accepting
money
for
this
that
we
get
to
do
it
our
way,
our
way
is
working
and
local
control
all
the
way.
So
I
just
gonna
throw
that
in
there
because
believe
me,
we've
been
getting
such
a
load
of
goods
from
sacramento
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
not
dictating
to
us
that
we
have
to
put
in
certain
vehicles
if
we
accept
their
money.
C
Has
anybody
checked
that,
but
I
think
via
has
been
a
real
best
and
what
happens
after
five
years?
Has
anybody
thought
down
the
road
for
that
bad
pun
anyway?
Thank
you
very
much.
H
Good
evening,
council,
members
and
staff,
I
I
like
the
idea
of
adding
el
camino
hospital
and
the
mountain
view
view
cal
street
transition.
Those
are
two
big
destination
destinations
that
can
cover
a
lot
of
areas.
If
people
want
to
go
to
the
castro
street
and
have
dinner,
then
you
know
the
cal
train
station.
There
is
close
enough
that
you
could
walk
the
rest
of
the
way
and
el
camino
hospital.
H
A
lot
of
doctors
and
dentists
and
stuff
are
in
that
area.
So
getting
to
the
hospital
where
there's
not
very
good
parking
allows
you
to
do
that.
My
question
is,
as
you
add,
more
areas,
what
about
the
wait
time
are
you
going
to
add
more
vehicles
and
also
cupertino
has
been
adding
more
bike
lanes
and
encouraging
people
to
bike
around.
Are
these
vehicles
also
going
to
have
bike
racks
so
that
you
could
bike
to?
You
know
a
bike
path
or
something
like
that
anyway?
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
peggy
and
let's
bring
it
back
to
chris
and
krista
before
we
call
on
vice
mayor
ciao,
as
our
first
council
member
commenter
questioner,
did
you
want
to
speak
to
some
of
the
questions
raised
by
our
members
of
the
public
here,
chris
or
christian
sure.
R
I'd
be
happy
just
to
mention
that
our
all
of
our
bands
do
have
bike
racks
now,
so
we're
excited
about
that
and
that
the
only
mandate
from
the
state
that
we're
aware
of
is
that
the
vans
would
all
need
to
be
electric
and
we
would
have
to
have
considerably
more
vans
on
the
road
for
the
expansion
more
than
twice
the
number
we're
looking
at
much
more
than
that,
depending
on
which,
which
year.
R
R
We
don't
well
that's
a
good
question
because
we
currently
are
enjoying
very
low
wait
times
because
of
ridership.
So
we
we,
when
we
contracted
with
via
we're
targeting
a
15-minute,
wait
time
we're
currently
around
eight
minutes.
But
we
will
have
adequate
supply
to
maintain
that
15-minute
goal
and
that's
that
by
having
more
adding
more
supply,
we
can
control
that.
A
J
R
This
grant
would
involve
expanding
and
having
those
cities
partner
with
us
mountain
view,
mountain
view
is
actually
not
part
of
the
partnership,
but
right
now
we're
talking
to
santa
clara
and
sunnyvale
and
actually
san
jose
as
well
and
cupertino
would
continue
to
pay
for
its
own
fleet,
but
as
a
user,
it
would
seem
like
one
large
area
and
each
city
would
be
contributing.
R
J
L
Yeah
great
thanks
for
the
presentation
chris.
Actually
it's
great
to
get
this
update
positive
results
and
it's
great
to
hear
that
our
neighboring
cities
are
looking
at
the
possibility
of
joining.
So
that
being
said,
a
few
technical
questions.
R
We
expect
to
use
the
1.75
million
dollars
to
get
to
october.
That's
assuming
we
consider
we
don't
have
any
more
covet
outbreaks
and
ridership
rebounds
in
the
way
that
we're
expecting
so
we
would
need
to
come
back
to
council
and
figure
out
a
way
to
cover
the
gap
between
october
to
january.
R
What
happened
councilmember
was
that
this
program
was
scheduled
to
end
a
long
time
ago
and
we
took
a
pause
for
a
year.
So
that's
what
that's
why
the
math
isn't
adding
up.
L
Great
okay,
so
then
that
being
said,
okay,
everything's
copacetic.
At
that
point,
when
we
originally
had
the
meeting
and
allocated
the
money,
we
knew
we
would
be
subsidizing.
L
L
To
what
degree
are
we
subsidizing
the
rides
now?
The
number
then,
I
think
maybe
like
five
dollars
a
ride.
We'd
be
subsidizing
or
something
like
that.
So.
R
R
That
was
when
we
were
needing
to
order
more
vans,
because
ridership
was
was
going
through
the
roof
and
we
didn't
have
enough
vans
to
meet
the
demand.
So
the
wait
times
got
a
little
bit
longer.
That's
when
we
saw
the
most
sharing
happening
within
the
vans
and
then
the
more
sharing
that
occurs,
the
more
efficient
the
program
is
because
you
only
have
one
driver
for
multiple
passengers.
R
So
what
we?
What
happened
after
kovit,
was
that
we're
really
repeating
that
same
pattern
of
relaunch
we're
trickling
back
up
so
we're
still
in
a
lean
period
from
a
subsidy
perspective
per
passenger,
but
the
busier
the
system
gets
the
more
sharing
that
occurs
and
the
more
efficient
economically
it
becomes.
L
So
probably
my
last
comment
on
on
trying
to
get
to
the
to
the
dollar
numbers.
So
if
we
you
know,
if
right
now,
we
say
well,
the
1.75
million
carries
it
through
october
and
then
conceivably.
I
think
our
original
plan
was
then
we
could
re-evaluate
at
that
time
and
determine
what
the
future
was
going
to
be.
But
if
we
were
to
say
gee,
let's
consider
continuing
it
beyond
the
I
I
think
I'd
sure
like
to
know
and
see
some
type
of
a
plot
in
terms
of
this
subsidy.
L
I
think
in
the
very
beginning
we
knew
that
we
couldn't
make
it
sustainable
if
we're
always
rising.
But
if
we
see
that
the
subsidiary
subsidy
is
in
fact
decreasing
over
time
and
and
we
kind
of
see
that
coming
down,
it
gives
us
a
lot
of
hope
to
keep
it
going.
So
it
continues
down
terminating
means.
It
would
have
to
be
from
scratch.
The
users
would
again
have
to
relearn.
L
I
I
guess
you
can't
really
answer
that
tonight,
but
when
it
does
come
to
us
for
continuation
beyond
october,
hopefully
we
have
more
of
an
understanding
of
that
subsidy
because
that's
coming
out
of
our
residents
tax
dollars.
R
And
the
one
thing
I,
the
one
thing
I
could
say
is
that
by
applying
for
this
grant,
we
aren't
committed
to
continue
via
and
we,
our
our
plan
is
to
come
back
to
council
this
summer
with
the
complete
end
of
pilot
report,
and
we.
L
Maybe
one
last
thing
to
add
into
that,
and
I
don't
think
you
have
it
tonight,
but
you
said
there
have
been
multiple
surveys
done
and
that
kind
of
allowed
you
to
make
that
pie,
chart
and
stuff.
I
I
think
it's
always
very
helpful
to
tell
us.
You
know
people
were
part
of
that
survey
so
that
we
can
kind
of
understand.
You
know
how
much
weight
we
should
put
to
that
to
that
data,
but
very
good
job.
Thank
you
for
the
update.
K
Thank
you,
mayor,
paul
chris
first,
thank
you
for
the
report
and
if
I
want
to
actually
want
to
clarify
two
points
that
I
read
about
it
and
make
sure
that
I
get
it
correctly,
one
point
is
in
order
to
apply
for
this
grant.
Actually,
it
is
maybe
not
mandate,
but
it's
it's.
We
need
other
cities
to
be
on
it
in
order
to
have
a
chance
to
even
get
the
brand
did.
I
get
that
point
correctly.
K
K
K
Okay,
thank
you
and
the
second
song
once
it
okay,
so
we're
being
optimistic
once
if
we
get
the
grand
and
maybe
three
cities
or
four
cities
getting
together,
then
our
residents
will
be
able
to
write
via
services,
even
though
it's
provided
by
cupertino
but
to
locations
in
sunnyvale
and
san
jose
or
santa
clara.
Is
that
the
whole
plan?
Yes.
K
Is
that
always
very
ideal
because
we
do
want
to
expand
services
so
that
more
ridership
would
be
there?
So
my
third
question
actually
is
following
up
with
council
member
willie.
You
know
the
subsidy,
I
think
one
simple
formula
is
we
spend
1.75
million
by
october,
how
much
money
we
receive
from
writers?
I
think
then
the
rest
is
how
much
we,
the
city,
subsidize
the
program
it
can.
With
that
data.
Can
you
presented
that
data?
Maybe
in
some
point
what.
R
K
K
I
think
that
would
be
wonderful.
Thank
you
chris
and
another
thing
to
follow.
Council
member
williams.
Point
is,
you
know,
survey
is
great,
but
we
really
need
to
know
how
many
people
filled
in
the
survey
it
it's
10.
Then
the
data
doesn't
make
sense,
but
it's
just
200.
The
data
makes
sense,
so
it'll
be
nice
to
know
how
many
people
return.
The
survey
in
order
to
you
know
to
see
if
the
data
is
valid
or
not.
R
That's
a
good
point.
I
can
post
that
on
our
on
our
city
website
at
via
cupertino.org
shuttle
I'll
be
sure
to
post
that
information.
K
Okay,
thank
you
chris
one
more
day
that
I
would
like
to
have,
but
you
might
not
be
able
to
get
it.
I
understand
we
have
so
many
writers
and
so
many
trips,
but
a
writer
that
can
mean
somebody
takes
one
writer
can
take
10
rights.
You
know
within
a
month,
so
I
would
consider
that
one
writer
are
you:
will
you
be
able
to
get
that
data?
How
many
people
really
take
advantage
of
their
services,
not
how
many
trips
or
how
many
rights
are
taken,
but
how
many
people
really
taking
advantage
of
it.
R
We
do
we
have.
We
have
data,
so
the
numbers
that
I
showed
the
hard
numbers
are
the
number
of
rides
taken.
So
if
you
had
two
people
in
a
van
that
would
count
as
two
trips
we
do
have
data
on
how
many
riders
are
writing
and
what's
interesting,
is
the
data.
R
I
don't
have
the
slide
with
the
in
the
deck
tonight,
but
the
the
data
does
show
us
that
we
have
a
lot
of
people
about
40
of
our
riders
are
receiving
a
discount
either
a
student
or
senior
discount
and
they're
making
up
the
large
majority
of
the
trips
taken.
So
we
have
a
small
group
of
super
writers
that
love
via.
K
R
S
K
J
Thank
you,
yeah,
that's
great
questions.
It
would
be
because
if
there
is
a
small
group
of
super
writers
that
probably
skill
the
data
to
look
like
a
lot
of
people
are
using,
so
that
would
be
good
to
know
how
many
individual
writers
are
there
and
then
remember
when
we
approve
this
on
the
target
is
the
average
occupancy
of
3.5
people
per
car?
Then
then
we
would
get
12
dollars
per
our
cost,
is
12
per
right
and
then
we,
if
they
are
paying
three
dollars
per
ride,
we
subsidize
nine
dollars.
J
I
don't
know
if
I
remember
it
right
and
then
now
I
wonder:
what's
the
current
average
occupancy
we
see
so
we
kind
of
know
how
much
we
are
subsidizing
per
right.
Do
we
have
some
number?
I.
R
Know
that
our
current
utilization
via
calls,
this
number
the
utilization
rate,
the
amount
of
riders
in
the
van
at
one
time,
and
when
our
when
we
initially
launched
right
around
february
march
2020
when
things
were
getting
really
busy,
we
had
a
utilization
rate
of
four
to
five.
So
surpassing
our
our
stated
goal,
and
at
some
times
during
the
day
it
was
even
higher
than
that.
Now
we're
we're
back
to
a
much
lower
number.
I
can
get
you
the
number,
but
it's
very
low.
R
J
Okay
and
then
it's
great
that
we
are
working
connecting
with
other
cities,
I
wonder
how
about
saratoga
and
campbell
since
you,
your
graph
shows
campbell
already
have
quite
a
few
people
signed
up,
and
I
think
kimbo,
downtown
and
saratoga
downtown
are
good
destinations
that
people
like
to
visit.
J
So
would
their
cities
be
interested
in
joining
and
from
milpitas?
I
I
think
they
have
their
own
chateau
service.
Not
via.
I
don't
know
what
are
theirs.
I
don't
know
how
it's
working
out
for
them.
R
We
can
certainly
reach
out
to
more
communities.
We
honestly
really
just
because
of
the
the
rush
we
just
reached
out
to
us
are
nearby
communities
first,
that
are
really
contiguous
to
cupertino,
trying
not
to
bite
off
more
than
we
could
chew,
but
but
you're
right,
we
could
include
more
communities,
and
I
can
work
with
via
to
come
up
with
some
costs
to
have
some
discussions
to
see.
If
that's
a
possibility.
A
Great
thanks
vice
mayor
chow
yeah,
so
you
know
I
I
guess
just
to
be
really
open
about
it.
Chris
I
mean
all
the
data
is
in
your
staff
report.
Right
with
regard
to
you
know
how
much
cupertino's
spent,
how
much
we've
gotten
in
fairs,
how
many
trips
there
are
right.
I
mean
people
would
do
the
math
if
they
wanted
to.
You
know,
pull
those
numbers
out
right.
Yeah.
R
Yeah
you
could,
you
could
go
through
and
especially
once
they
post
these
slides.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
mean
you
know,
there's
no,
there's
no
secret.
There
I
mean,
I
think,
at
the
end
of
it.
You
know.
Your
staff
report
says
that
16
708
trips
have
been
made
overall,
since
the
program
began
in
october.
2019
that
that's
you
know
at
the
top
of
our
agenda
packet
super
paginated,
page
190,
so
we
know
how
many
trips
have
been
made.
You
know
as
you're
defining
them.
If
you
have
three
people
in
one
vehicle
for
one
ride,
that's
three
trips.
We
know
how
much
money
has
been
spent.
A
You
know
by
you
know
us
on
the
program.
We
know
how
much
money
remains.
We
know.
We've
collected,
you
know
on
that
same
page,
about
midway
through
twenty
thousand
nine
hundred
and
twenty
seven
dollars
and
nine
cents
in
fares.
I
I
mean
the
math
can
be
done,
but
let
me
ask
you
this
you're
familiar
with
the
county's
ride
program.
Yes,
it
stands
for
reach
your
destination
easily.
A
You
are
okay,
good
and
you,
from
from
your
understanding,
is,
is
that
cost
per
trip
more
or
less
than
what
we're
spending
on
via
the.
R
So
if
you
run
a
service
nine
hours
a
day,
you
just
multiply
it
by
that
amount.
The
ride
program
is
very
costly
to
operate,
and
it
also
has
specialized
vehicles
when
via
is
operating
efficiently.
It's
far
less
expensive
than
any
comparable
programs.
A
Right-
and
so
I
I
mean
it-
wouldn't
surprise
you
to
hear-
I
would
imagine
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it
wouldn't
surprise
you
to
hear
that
on
a
per
trip
basis,
the
ride
program
is
actually
still
much
more
expensive
than
the
cupertino
via
program,
even
in
you
know
a
so-called
down
month.
You
know
what
would
that
surprise
you
to
learn
that
no.
A
I
mean
it's,
it's
actually,
you
know
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
speaks
to
a
service,
and
an
unmet
need
is
how
I'm
interpreting
it.
You
know
you're
looking
at
sixteen
thousand
seven
underneath
trips
since
the
inception
of
our
program.
I
mean
I
see
that
as
that
many
trips
that
would
not
have
otherwise
been
serviced
by
public
transit,
I
mean,
would
you
say,
that's
a
or
at
least
if
it
were
it
would,
you
know,
be
done
so
in
a
less
efficient
manner.
Time
wise,
you
think,
that's
a
fair
statement.
R
I
think
that's
absolutely
a
fair
statement
and
and
just
anecdotally,
anecdotally
speaking
with
with
hundreds
of
people
about
about
via
services
being
the
point
person
for
via
for
the
city.
A
lot
of
people
say
that
they
they're
they're
they're
they're
taking
trips.
They
wouldn't
have
taken
before
a
lot
of
seniors
have
said
their
their.
Their
quality
of
life
has
increased.
R
I
had
one
person
tell
me
they
bought
ice
cream
before
for
the
first
time
in
a
long
time,
because
they
used
to
wait
for
a
vta
bus
and
ice
cream
would
melt
by
the
time
they
got
home.
So
we've
heard
a
lot
of
heartwarming
stories,
so
it
doesn't
surprise
me
and,
and
the
the
most
impressive
thing
I
think,
has
been
the
amount
of
people
going
to
caltrain.
I
have
a
bonus
slide
if
you're
interested
in
seeing
it,
but
that
I
didn't
show
for
a
lack
of
time.
R
A
R
It's
worth
pointing
out
hold
on
one
sec,
okay,
so
this
is.
This
shows
this
particular
slide
shows
trips
from
the
region
to
apple
park,
and
this
is
in
2020.
This
is
in
2022,
so
this
is
showing
kind
of
like
the
reduced
amount
of
of
trips
happening.
This
is
in
2020
to
caltrain
in
sunnyvale,
and
you
can
see
the
wide
range
of
geography
coming
from
all
over
cupertino
to
caltrain
and
then
in
2022,
there's
still
quite
a
bit
through
the
pandemic
and
in
the
relaunch
just
a
reduced
volume.
A
So
yeah-
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to-
I-
don't-
want
to
scratch
a
sore
point
or
you
know
pick
on
a
scab
or
anything,
but
I
I
think
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
you
know
mention
this.
You
know
as
as
our
sitting
board
member
for
the
west
valley
cities
on
vta.
A
I
I
do
want
to
you
know
going
to
share
with
the
public
our
experiences
with
trying
to
apply
for
grant
money
with
regard
to
innovative
transit
through
our
local
county
transportation
agency,
and
so
we
were
actually
late
right
to
apply
to
that.
We
were
actually
you
know
from
from
our
own
perspective,
and
we
we
hatched
this
out
with
bta
staff,
but
we
were
discouraged
right
from
from
vtas.
Is
this
what
you
know
we're
you
know
putting
out
there?
A
I
I
mean-
and
let
me
just
preface
this
by
also
saying
I'm
very
appreciative
of
the
fact
that
our
staff
right
now
is
putting
forward
this
this
proposal
in
the
context
of
a
of
a
grant
proposal
right
and
then
it's
not
only
just
limited
to
cupertino,
but
with
the
eye
on
also
not
just
keeping
it
multi
or
expanding
into
multi-jurisdictions,
but
also
you
know
adopting
the
idea
of
electrification
of
the
fleet,
which
is
something
that
I've
also
been
working
on.
A
You
know
in
in
in
my
spare
time
I
guess
to
try
to
encourage
that
that
to
happen,
but
in
terms
of
you
know,
kind
of
backing
up
and
looking
at
some
of
the
lessons
learned
from
our
experiences
with
that
grant
proposal,
I
mean:
is
there
anything
that
you
could?
You
know
bring
to
the
forefront
here
in
terms
of
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
learned
from
that
episode?
A
You
know
stipulating
that.
Yes,
you
know
the
the
very
existence
of
this
agenda
item
together
with
a
grant
proposal.
Discussion
is
evidence
that
we're
moving
forward
with
a
lot
of
you
know
good
ideas,
but
was
there
anything
that
you
wanted?
To
kind
of
you
know
debrief
public
on
and
just
kind
of
you
know
go
forward
with
any
lessons
learned
or
you
know
if
it's
complete
defense.
I
understand
that
as
well,
but
was
there
anything
that
you
know?
A
We
think
that
we
can
kind
of
glean
from
that,
and
also
I'm
on
the
vta
board
until
the
end
of
the
year
as
well
right.
So
I
I
can
keep
an
eye
on
that,
even
though
the
innovative
grant
funding.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
think
it's
coming
back
to
us
in
this
particular
calendar
year
or
fiscal
cycle,
but
you
know
perhaps
someone
you
know
listening
or
someone
talking
to
somebody
else.
Councilman
moore
sits
on
our
vta
pack,
the
policy
advisory
committee
that
has
a
member
from
each
of
the
cities.
A
You
know
kind
of
can
carry
that
that
that
you
know
baton
forward
and
communicate
these
types
of
lessons
learned
to
others
sure.
R
Yeah,
I
think
we
can.
We
can
definitely
take
away
that
we
need
to,
you,
know,
go
after
grant
funds
whenever
they
are
available
to
us
and
and
push
back
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
comments
or
parameters
that
are
given
for
particular
grants
to
clarify
and
that's
what
we've
tried
to
do
with
this
particular
application.
Is
you
know
to
take
extra
time
to
meet
with
the
grantor
and
learn
about
what
the
rules
and
regulations
are
for
that
particular
vta
grant?
R
I
overheard
I
I
was.
I
was
in
a
room
at
a
committee
meeting
where
I
was
told
that
this
type
of
program
wouldn't
wouldn't
qualify
for
that
particular
fund
and
that
it
wasn't
innovative.
R
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
back
and
forth,
so
it's
it's
water
under
the
bridge
at
this
point,
but
I
did
learn
from
cal
sta
that
we
can
use
other
grant
funds
to
make
up
the
local
match
if
we
are
awarded
this
grant-
and
so
I
do
have
my
eye
on
that
same
grant
when
it
does
come
open
again,
maybe
in
the
future
calendar
years
the
innovative
transit
pot
from
measure
b-
and
I
would
certainly
go
after
it
of
course,
next
time,
with
more
vigor.
A
Absolutely-
and
you
know,
I'm
so
glad
to
hear
that
with
the
idea
that
if
the
funding
is
there
apply
for
the
grant,
if
you
possibly
can,
you
know
get
on
top
of
it
early
and
you
know,
put
your
ducks
in
a
row,
get
everything
lined
up
and
then
I
I
will
kind
of
bookend
this
by
pointing
out
that
you
know
and
I'd
imagine
you
probably
know
this,
but
the
reach
your
destination
easily.
A
You
know
program
actually
got
the
residual
money
from
that
grant
right
that
had
we
applied
for
it,
we
would
almost
certainly
have
scored
better,
and
so
there
was
a
bit
of
money
even
left
over
after
that.
For
you
know
what,
basically,
you
know
the
way
the
board
voted
was
that
essentially
any
program
would
have
gotten
that
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
in
fact
I
will
even
say
that
I
tried
to
get
that
reopened
so
that
cupertino
could
grab
that.
A
You
know
a
couple
hundred,
I
think
it's
like
260,
000
or
or
so
it
was
unsuccessful.
You
know
something
like
11
to
1
vote
on
the
vta
board,
but
I'm
just
really
glad
to
hear
that
and
I'm
glad
we're
having
this.
You
know
public
discussion
about
the
idea
that
you
know.
Let's
keep
a
look
out
and
you
know
please
absolutely
encourage
your.
A
We
have
lines
of
communication
that
are
open,
and
you
know
ears
to
the
ground
that
you
know
may
not
be
heard
from
you
know
all
the
different
directions,
even
though
we
have
very
committed
staff.
You
know
such
as
you
know
yourself
that
very
much
exemplifies
all
the
great
work
that
that
we're
doing
you
know
to
put
forward
these
types
of
amenities
for
the
community,
but
yeah.
So
so
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
we'll
continue
to
do,
and
thank
you,
for
you
know.
A
This
log
forward-
and
I
I
will
just
say
in
closing
you
know
the
the
the
actual
cost
per
ride
cost
per
trip
is
is
pro,
is-
is
competitive
with
a
lot
of
vta
programs
out
there
if
you're
talking
about
express
buses
from
south
county
over
to
places
like
mountain
view,
if
you
were
to
look
at
the
cost,
you
know
per
per
trip,
but
of
course,
in
the
west
valley.
We
really
don't
have
you
know,
transit
to
speak
of.
A
So
let
me
go
ahead
and
bring
forward
a
motion
if
we
want
to
have
further
discussion
on
this
item,
fine,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
the
staff
recommendation.
That
council
authorized
the
application
for
this
particular
grant
proposal.
That's
been
discussed
here
this
evening,
and
so
that
would
be
in
particular,
the
grant
application
to
cal
sta
to
fund
fifty
percent
of
our
shuttle
costs
in
the
future.
A
May
I
have
a
second
for
that
motion
and
vice
versa.
I
do
see
your
hand
is
raised.
J
So
I
wonder
besides
vta
funding,
whether
we
could
also
pursue
state
level
or
even
federal
funding
I
mean
the
state
is
now
has
sb9
biggest
concern
is
parking
as
people
subdivide
lots
and
have
duplex
and
this
program
if
successful,
is
of
statewide
interest,
because
that
really
resolved
a
lot
of
these
parking
concerns
on
for
areas
we
without
bus
or
transit.
J
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor
chow,
any
other
comment
on
this
motion
on
the
table.
A
Well,
you
know
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
comment
on
this.
You
know
so
so.
Transit-
and
this
is
you
know,
I'm
speaking
from
a
somewhat
informed
personal
perspective.
I
mean
I
I've
had
about
a
year
and
a
few
months
on
the
vta
board.
Now
you
know
when
I
look
at
transit,
I
think
there
are.
There
are
basically
two
really
useful
things
that
we
can
be
doing
to
look
to
the
future.
A
I
I
think
we
really
need
to
you
know,
get
a
working
transit
system.
You
know
for
our
area.
I
I'm
not
really
sure.
If
what
we're
you
know
what
we're
supporting
is
workable
right
now.
I
wish
we
would
look
to
the
future,
but
this
is
not
so
much
that
this
is
not
trying
to
look
at.
You
know
the
really
innovative
ideas
out
there
for
getting
us.
A
You
know
very
far
distances
in
a
very
brief
amount
of
time
and
thereby
you
know
solving
just
really
broad-based
economic,
and
you
know
housing-based
issues
as
well,
but
the
other
part
of
the
transit
equation.
You
know,
I
I
think
is
going
to
be
the
revolution.
That's
going
to
be
happening
on
a
on
a
dual
full
front
in
in
just
what
we
normally
think
of
as
cars,
and
just
you
know,
personal
vehicles,
one
part
is
going
to
be
the
electrification
of
those
vehicles.
A
A
We're
able
to
you
know
help
out
with
the
various
data
points
in
in
what
I
consider
to
be
a
fairly
obvious
and
at
this
point,
in
a
inevitable
shift
over
towards
crowdsourcing
all
of
this
information
and
efficiently
using
you
know,
vehicles
to
get
multiple
people
from
various
points
and
when
you,
when
you
take
into
account
the
fact
that
we
have
a
lot
of
software
coming
in
a
lot
of
sensor
functionality,
you
know
I,
I
think
we're
really
kind
of
getting
ahead
of
the
curve
here,
but
also
it's
at
a
very
appropriate
time
to
be
doing
so.
A
I
look
at
the
numbers,
you
know,
and
people
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
calculated
it
out
as
we
were
talking.
I
think
it's
something
like
forty
three
dollars
a
ride
right
now
and
as
we're
subsidizing
it
twenty
thousand
dollars.
You
know
it's
something
like
41.75
or
something
like
that,
but
you
know
ride.
I
think,
starts
to
push
three
figures.
A
You
know
the
the
reached
your
destination
easily
program,
but
I
think
that
we
do
have
to
look
at
it
in
the
context
of
how
much
our
county
transit
system
costs
and
when
you
look
at
various
types
of
lines-
and
you
know
the
various
things
that
are
being
serviced
in
other
parts
of
the
county.
You
know
our
our
residents
really
aren't
using.
A
You
know
a
form
of
transit,
so
we
we've
actually
had
to
step
up
in
cupertino
and
deliver
that,
for
you
know
some
part
of
our
sector
or
some
you
know
portion
of
our
of
our
population.
I
do
think
that
this
is
something
that's
going
to
amplify
and
grow.
If
we,
you
know,
keep
on
investing
in
it,
I
realize
it's
not.
You
know
it's
not.
It's
not
cheap
by
any
you
know
means.
A
I
wish
that
our
county
agency
would
step
up
and
you
know
realize
what
we're
doing,
and
I
I
think
at
this
point
you
know
if,
if
it
basically
goes,
it
takes
a
you
know
hard
left
and
it
stops.
I
I
think
that
this
is
an
idea
that
is
absolutely
going
to
take
hold
in
other
places,
and
I
think
it
will
come
back
at
us.
You
know
in
one
way
shape
or
form.
I
would
support
this
right
now.
A
I
know
I
know
it's
not
super
cost
effective,
but
I
think
that
looking
at
the
data
in
the
more
busy
months
there
are,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
being
serviced
and
it's
not
anywhere
near
the
you
know
40
some
odd
dollars
per
per
trip
that
I'm
calculating.
A
So
you
you
know
I
I
realize
this
is
a
cost
benefit
analysis,
but
you
know
getting
that
information
out
in
the
open.
It
is
something
that
I
don't
think
that
we
should
shy
away
from.
In
terms
of
you
know,
just
trying
to
you
know,
talk
about
it
and
and
what
the
other
you
know
possibilities
are.
So
you
know,
I
really
do
see
this
as
the
future
of
the
last
mile.
You
know
when
it
really
comes
down
to
the
guts
of
real
transit.
A
You
know
for
me,
I
don't
know
why
we
wouldn't
be
aiming
at
like
200
miles
an
hour
to
get
to
the
central
valley
and
solve
their
economic
woes
and
also
our
housing
crisis
and
one
one
fell
yet,
albeit
very,
very,
very,
very
hard-earned
swoop.
So
I
think
those
are
the
dual
natures
of
future
transit
and
you
know
to
the
extent
that
we
can
have
a
piece
of
that
equation
and
we're
already
you
know,
moving
that
along.
A
I
think
we
should
be
doing
our
part
so
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion.
That's
on
the
table.
A
A
A
Okay,
well
thanks
very
much
we're
on
to
item
number
20
at
this
point.
This
is
also
under
ordinances
and
action
items.
Item
number
20
is
consideration
of
an
update
on
the
stephens
creek
boulevard,
steering
committee
and
consideration
of
the
city
of
cupertino's
participation
in
the
stephens
creek
boulevard,
transit
vision
study.
A
R
So
this
project
is
the
last
time
we
were
in
front
of
the
council
was
actually
in
november
2020
and
prior
to
that
in
july
2019
the
council
had
approved
a
resolution
that
was
in
support
of
a
visioning
process,
collat,
really
in
support
of
collaborating
with
our
neighbors
on
our
neighbors,
along
stephens
creek
boulevard
on
conducting
a
multi-city
vision
process,
one
that's
really
centered
around
multi-modal
transportation,
so
from
the
pedestrian
level,
and
also
in
one
that
would
consider
high-capacity
transit
the
the
council
leading
up
to
in
the
summer
of
2019.
R
The
council
had
formed
a
subcommittee
to
work
with
staff
to
work
out
some
of
the
the
wording
of
that
resolution
and
I
believe
two
prior
council
members
worked
had
worked
on
that
and
ultimately
was
adopted
and
the
same
process
happened
in
neighboring
cities,
so
in
santa
clara
and
san
jose
also
adopted
resolutions
to
work
together,
basically
standing
to
work
together
after
that
time.
R
Shortly
after
that
time,
the
city
of
san
jose
formed
a
steering
committee
comprised
of
elected
officials,
and
then
we,
the
staff,
brought
an
item
back
to
council
in
november
2020.
That's
the
most
recent
time.
This
item
has
been
before
council
and
the
council
elected
at
that
time,
not
to
move
forward
with
participating
in
a
study.
R
After
that
time,
there
was
a
considerable
pause
taken
when
cupertino
decided
not
to
move
forward.
The
other
cities
were
trying
to
figure
out
their
next
steps
and
then
covet
struck
and
the
paws
grew
to
be
even
longer,
but
over
the
last
six
to
eight
months
this,
the
staff
working
group
has
been
having
very
frequent
meetings
to
discuss
the
different
issues.
Each
community
wanted
to
incorporate
into
the
scope
of
work
and
really
in
an
effort
to
to
get
something
together,
a
scope
of
work
that
each
community
could
get
behind,
and
that's
resulted
in.
R
What's
attached
to
the
staff
report,
the
proposed
scope
of
work
in
terms
of
the
landscape
and
changes
in
the
landscape
from
then
to
now
one
of
the
big
key
things
has
been
that
the
metropolitan
transportation
commission
has
included
the
stevens
creek
corridor
in
its
long-range
plan
and
that
just
happened
in
october
2021.
R
The
most
recent
meeting
steering
committee
meeting
occurred
in
december
and
councilmember
moore,
attended
on
behalf
of
cupertino
presentations
were
given
by
san
jose
on
a
separate
but
somewhat
connected
project,
which
is
the
san
jose
airport
connector
project.
That's
a
separate
effort
that
san
jose
has
undertaken
to
connect
to
dear
don
with
san
jose
airport.
That
presentation
was
given
and
also
itaras,
gave
a
presentation
on
this
same
scope
of
work
and
actually
there's
a
representative
from
my
terrace
here
this
evening,
sean
daily
who's,
the
senior
planner
with
itara's.
R
If
any
questions
come
up
later,
I
don't
want
to
read
through
the
all
the
discussion
slides.
So
if
council
moore
may
want
to
give
an
update
on
this
meeting
later,
but
I
will
say
the
one
takeaway
that
we
really
that
I
really
got
from
this
last
meeting
was
that
there
seems
to
be
really
a
a
true
interest
in
doing
something:
innovative
and
different
in
this
corridor
from
a
transportation
project
perspective.
R
We
would
return
with
a
funding
agreement
at
a
future
meeting
in
march
between
cupertino
and
the
city
of
san
jose.
San
jose
would
really
be
the
lead
on
this
project
in
terms
of
managing
the
contract,
but
in
terms
of
the
project
itself,
the
both
committees
would
continue
moving
forward
to
sort
of
shepherd.
R
The
project
through
the
working
group
at
the
staff
level
would
handle
more
of
the
technical
technical
elements
of
the
project
and
then,
of
course,
the
elected
officials
would
continue
to
meet
in
the
steering
committee
and
that's
I
did
say
it
was
going
to
be
a
short
presentation,
but
I
wanted
to
leave
as
much
time
for
discussion
as
possible.
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
A
C
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
chris
for
your
very
informative
presentation.
I
sent
the
city
council
an
email
at
4
30
this
afternoon.
It's
called
well,
it
was
I
I
am
concerned
about
some
of
the
issues
involving
cupertino
being
involved
in
the
stephens
creek
boulevard
transit
vision
study.
C
One
number
one
is
involvement
of
mtc
and
plan
bay
area.
2050.
yeah
I've
been
talking
about
this
all
night,
but
I
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
because
plan
bay
area
ntc
had
included
the
stevens
creek
corridor
in
their,
oh
god,
in
their
long-range
bay
area
long-range
plan.
That
makes
me
very
very
nervous.
I
I
really
am
very
concerned
about
how
planned
bay
area
was
adopted,
and
I
really
I
feel
uncomfortable
having
our
students
create
corridor.
C
Our
section
of
cupertino
involved
in
ntc,
because
mtc
has
made
a
very
very
bad
example
of
itself
this
year
by
taking
away
local
control,
and
I
don't
want
them
taking
away
local
control
of
stevens
creek
boulevard.
They
have
no
right
and
no
reason
to
be
sticking
their
nose
into
what
cupertino
does
on
stephens
creek
boulevard.
Now
it's
one
thing
if
we're
talking
to
san
jose
and
santa
clara
and
viradon
etc,
but
I
don't
want
top-down
command
of
what's
happening
in
cedar.
C
Creek
boulevard
happening
out
of
mcc
and
there's
too
much
involvement
from
san
francisco
in
this
they're
sticking
their
nose
in
places
where
they
shouldn't
be
involved.
I'm
sorry,
I
I'm.
I
have
really
had
enough
of
mcc
and
a
bag
and
san
francisco
dictating
to
the
rest
of
the
state
what
they
want
us
to
do
so
nothing.
You
know
the
other
thing
is
I
don't
want
to
express
rapid
transit
down,
stephens
creek
boulevard,
our
portion.
C
I
don't
want
to
be
involved
with
complete
streets
program,
because
that
means
that
they
are
closing
down
roads
without
telling
the
public
about
it.
You
know
roads
for
cars,
we're
just
shut
them
down.
Okay,
valco
issues
with
rolf
road
and
traffic
impact.
We
don't
know
yet,
with
the
godzillion
amounts
of
housing,
that's
supposed
to
be
going
in
high
rises
to
the
sky
at
balco.
We
don't
know
what
kind
of
traffic
is
going
to
be
put
onto
stevens
creek
boulevard.
C
A
A
T
Yes,
yeah
sorry,
I
was
having
trouble
there
good
evening,
mayor
paul
vice
mayor
town,
council
members,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
vice
marriage,
happy
jones
of
san
jose
and
on
his
behalf,
we
wanted
to
recommend
for
the
city
of
cupertino
to
participate
in
the
proposed
stephen's,
pre-corridor
transit
vision
study.
T
T
A
Thank
you,
rania
and
we'll
bring
this
back
to
the
council,
as
well
as
our
our
staff
and
external
external
consultant
for
the
for
the
project
for
the
vision
study,
and
so
I
don't
hear
follow-ups
that
were
required
from
the
members
of
the
public
who
spoke.
A
A
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
anybody
you
know
taking
on
that
offer.
So
so
let
me
go
ahead
and
bring
this
over
to
council,
so
I
can
go
ahead
and
kick
us
off
here.
You
know
I've
been
involved
in
this
process
for
a
number
of
years
now
and
I
will
say
that
when
it
reaches
cupertino,
we've
always
been
really
dedicated
to
making
sure
that
our
streets
are
unaffected.
A
That's
why?
If
you
read
the
resolution
that
we
passed
in
2019,
it
very
much
is
carefully
tailored
to
ensure
that
our
our
street
is
not
affected
in
terms
of
the
traffic
flow.
A
We
specifically
called
out
grade
separation,
whether
that
be
above
or
below
ground,
and
then
we
also
actually
had
an
extensive
series
of
discussions
back
then,
with
regard
to
once
it
hits
cupertino.
Are
we
looking
at
going
along
stevens
creek
boulevard?
Are
we
looking
at
going
along
highway
280
and
that's
why,
when
you
look
at
the
language
of
the
resolution,
highway
280
is
mentioned
there
as
well.
My
current
understanding
of
this
is
that
it
is
a
cohesive
quarter,
vision,
study
and
that
doesn't
just
include
you
know
what
we
typically
think
of.
A
As
a
traditional
form
of
mass
transit,
that
also
includes
pedestrian
access
and
bicycle
access.
So
you
know
when
I
read
over
our
staff
report,
I
don't
get
as
much
of
that
kind
of
a
sense
that
we
have
the
ability,
ultimately
to
you,
know,
pick
and
choose
from
those
aspects
of
the
vision
study.
The
corridor
study
we're
being
asked
to
support
here
such
that
what
could
potentially
transpire
in
10
or
15
years
you
know,
is
a
series
of,
for
example,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
improvements.
A
Off
this
there
there
just
seems
to
be
a
sweet,
a
pallet
of
options
available.
If
we
go
down
this
road-
and
you
know
somebody
please
correct
me-
if
I'm
wrong-
we're-
not
making
a
commitment
to
any
particular
mode
of
transit
or
transportation
down,
stevens
creek
boulevard,
if
we
proceed
with
supporting
the
study,
so
oh
you
know
I'll
put
that
into
a
form
of
a
a
question
you
know.
Chris.
A
Perhaps
you
would
be
the
best
person
to
speak
to
that
from
our
city
staff,
or
you
know
we
could
ask
sean
as
well
from
italy's,
but
I
I
think
john's
task
is
a
little
bit
different
right.
Yeah.
R
No
mayor
that
was
a
that
was
one
of
the
points
that.
T
G
R
Main
point
that
was
discussed
in
these
staff
working
groups
is
that
that
there
is
no,
that
this
is
mode
agnostic
and
that
this
is
really
a
true
vision
study
where
the
best
ideas
would
rise
to
the
top.
A
Yeah
I
mean
you
know
I
don't
even
push
back
to
the
whole
rise
to
the
top.
You
know
part
of
it
I
mean
I
I
just
I
don't
want
any
kind
of
implication
there
being
that
some
ideas
will
be
chosen
and
kind
of
anointed
as
what
we
will
go
forward
with
I
mean
I,
I
just
want
to
make
it
really
clear
and
verify
that
you
know
we're
we're
still
driving.
You
know
the
the
vehicle
here,
we're
still
we're
still
steering
the
ship.
If
we
go
forward
with
this,
you
know
quarter
study.
A
We
have
not
committed
to
any
particular
mode
right,
that's
correct,
yeah,
that's
correct,
okay,
and
if
we
were
to
commit
that
would
happen
in
the
future
right.
It
wouldn't
be
happening
here
or
even
at
the
time
that
the
study
was
you
know,
delivered
or
even
you
know
considered.
There
would
have
to
be
a
very,
very
explicit
consent
to
going
down
any
particular
path
for
a
mode
of
transit.
Is
that.
R
That's
correct
the
at
the
end
of
this
study.
It's
a
19
month
study
and
there
there
is
not
enough
scope
and
detail
to
really
be
studying
a
transit
project
in
in
great
detail.
It's
really
meant
to
be
more
of
a
vision
for
for
steven's
creek,
but
it
will
look
at
transit
options
in
the
corridor.
It
looks
at
the
right,
subway
and
and
other
factors
like
land
use,
etc.
If,
if
sean's
on,
he
may
be
able
to
speak.
U
Yeah
a
little
bit
yeah,
I
can
add
to
that
I
mean
the
the
the
vta
funding
portion
of
it
is
specific
to
transit
improvements.
U
You
know,
broadly
with
that
sort
of
caveat
that
that
there
is
going
to
be
obviously
a
lot
of
focus
on
transit
modes,
but
we
we
really
want
to
be
as
open
as
possible
to
really
start
with
needs
and
start
with.
Where
you
want
to
go.
Not
you
know
what
mode
it
is.
You
know
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
all
that
kind
of
stuff
in
the
beginning.
You
know
you're
really
backing
into
what
fits
your
vision
and,
as
chris
said,
that
would
be
pretty
much
mode,
neutral
and
and
frankly,
involving
all
modes.
U
You
know
it's
not
like
a
one
likely
to
be
one
magical
solution.
It's
it's,
obviously,
probably
a
lot
more
complex
with
a
lot
of
different
strategies
and,
frankly
different
strategies
in
different
cities.
U
You
know
part
of
it
would
be
sort
of
that
more
uniform
corridor,
whole
stephens
creek,
but
actually
most
of
it
is
probably
going
to
be
much
more
refined
at
the
city
or,
or
you
know,
community
or
individual
intersection
level
that
you
know,
mobility
happens
at
many
scales
and
we
want
to
be
respectful
of
that
and
then
one
other
portion
is
about.
A
third
of
the
budget
is
strictly
devoted
to
outreach.
U
So
there's
a
lot
of
effort
given
to
especially
early
on
to
allow
the
community
to
come
in
and
convey
their
experience.
Their
values
really
shape
that
and
we're
gonna
spend
a
lot
of
time.
Recording
that-
and
you
know
filtering
it
back
to
each
of
the
cities,
so
they
understand
where
each
of
the
communities
line
in
their
priorities
sort
of
a
phase,
one
that
ends
with
that
vision,
development
before
we
really
get
into
the
details
of
of
those
modal
specific
things
in
the
phase
two.
U
Yeah,
the
the
end,
there's
a
couple
of
deliverables
here
we
have
a
part
one,
that's
pretty
much
eight
months
in
and
that's
the
vision
statement.
That's
that's
sort
of
a
hard
stop
with
that
vision,
statement.
That's
talking
about
needs
and
talking
about
conditions
and
a
lot
of
stakeholder
feedback
and
then
a
part.
U
Two
is
more
getting
into
the
details
of
potential
solutions
and
it
does
include
development,
preferred
alternative
or
alternatives,
and
a
conceptual
well
not
really
conceptual
but
implementation
plan
so
that
those
are
sort
of
the
that
end.
Point
final
deliverable.
A
Okay:
okay,
let
me
go
to
council
member
willie,
followed
by
vice
mayor
chow,
followed
by
customer
way.
L
So
a
quick
question
to
start
off,
so
it
sounds
like
when
we
chose
not
to
participate
in
november
of
2020.
No
study
proceeded
at
that
time.
R
L
Correct,
okay,
and
from
my
recollection
back
then
you
I
think
there
was
a
concern
that
the
the
plan
for
stephen's
creek
was
going
to
be
heavily
influenced
by
san
jose,
and
I
I
think
that's
what
I
remember
being
our
concern.
Cupertino
is
not
san
jose.
Yes,
we
we
share
the
same
long
path
down
stevens
creek,
but
it's
a
very
different
section
of
stevens
creek.
If
you
were
to
scattus
and
down
the
center
of
los
gatos,
it's
very
different
than
cupertino.
L
L
I
do
believe
you
know
deirdre
into
de
anza.
College
is
really
a
very
wise
thing
to
do.
Those
are
two
very
important
destinations
that
people
all
along
that
route
can
get
on
and
go
to
either
of
those
or
go
from
one
to
the
other,
and
so
while
that
is
important,
then
it
should
be
studied,
and
I
do
we
should
be
trying
to
participate.
L
You
know
we
don't
want
to
be
left
out
and
not
having
our
concerns
and
things
put
out
as
long
as
it
truly
is
not
just
lip
service
that's
being
given
and
that
the
predetermined
best
mode
for
san
jose,
you
know,
is
going
to
be
the
the
the
main
focus,
and
so
I
do
like
that.
I'm
hearing
that
that's
not
going
to
be
the
approach,
it's
going
to
be
looking
at
innovative
ideas
and
possibly
a
combination
along
that
long
stretch.
L
Hopefully
we
will
be
listened
to,
and
you
know
our
ideas
and
concerns,
and
with
that
being
the
case,
we
would
continue
to
be
a
participant,
but
if
it
turned
out
that
it's
got
a
different
focus,
then
at
that
point
we
would
probably
return
to
our
previous
one
and
say
that
we're
going
to
just
focus
on
cupertino,
so
I
think
for
tonight.
I
think
we
should
be
a
participant
and
move
forward
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
willie,
and
let
me
just
translate
that
into
a
brief
question,
which
will
hopefully
have
a
brief
answer,
so
so
sean
what
comfort
and
insurance
can
you
give
cupertino
that
the
sentiments
coming
out
of
here
you
know,
even
if
they
arrange
a
gamut
and
a
spectrum
that
will
be
reflected
in
your
ultimate
deliverables.
U
Yeah
I
mean
in
terms
of
how
we're
scoped
I
mean
the
idea
is
really
that
really.
The
one
thing
that
is
shared
across
the
corridor
is,
is
the
transit
service
just
about
everything
else
related
to
the
street
itself,
is
within
each
city
and
is
going
to
be
essentially,
you
know,
guided
by
those
those
cities
jurisdictions.
You
know
it's,
it's
not.
It's
really
a
bottom
up
type
thing:
it's
a
very
long:
nine
mile
corridor,
they're
very
few
people
walking
biking
or
even
driving
its
full
length.
U
You
know
each
city
would
sort
of
determine
how
the
street
would
you
know
their
vision
for
the
street
in
their
community,
with
the
exception,
of
course,
of
that
you
know
the
transit
service
being
the
thing
that's
connecting
this,
this
string
of
of
cities,
so
I
mean
we
definitely
want
to
respect
each
jurisdiction's
character
and
and
and
make
sure
it's
integrated
in
fosters.
J
J
R
Initially,
the
study
was
going
to
start
at
deanza
and
then
we
asked
for
the
starting
point
to
move
a
little
bit
further
west
so
that
it
could
get
right
to
the
over
crossing
of
stevens
creek
85
in
the
event
that
there's
a
transit
service
on
85
at
some
point
in
the
future.
So
we
have
a
seamless
connection
and
then
connecting
all
the
way
to
jiradon
and
and
that
was
defined
kind
of
through
discussions
with
committees
over
time
over
the
last
several
years.
J
R
R
We
can
we
can
certainly
inquire
about
it
and
and
see
what
the,
if,
if
there
would
be
any
increased
cost
to
adding
adding
that.
U
I
I
was
just
going
to
add
generally
in
corridor
studies,
we
do
a
half
mile
sort
of
buffer
when
we're
doing
this
study,
I
believe
that
half
mile
is
pretty
close
to
getting
to
foothill
and
we
can
certainly
extend
that
so
they're
we're
grabbing
that
in
in
terms
of
how
we
do
our
analysis,
the
it's
about
a
mile
the
so
we
could
I'm
sure
we
could
probably
do
that.
I
think
it
also
aligns
with
the
vta's
route
23.
So
that's
really
intended
to
be.
U
You
know,
that's
the
high
quality
transit
service
in
the
corridor,
and
it's
it.
You
know
a
lot
of
it
is
meant
to
leverage
that
asset.
So
I
think
that
the
the
boundaries
of
the
study
really
have
to
do
with.
You
know
how
that
service
is
operated
and
as
we're
saying
with
that
last
mile
issue,
we
do
want
to
have
a
much.
You
know
a
buffer
around
there.
U
It's
generally
a
half
mile,
but
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things
where,
if
it's
reasonable,
if
it's
a
mile,
you
know
going
to
foothill
that
makes
sense.
I
don't
I
don't
think
that
really
changes.
You
know
the
scoping.
It
just
is,
you
know,
making
sure
that
that's
included.
J
K
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
think
a
couple
of
my
question
has
been
answered
because
I
am
like
vice
mayor
ciao.
I
am
curious.
Why
is
it
doesn't
go
to
foothill
because
at
foothill
there
is
our
sunnyvale
sunnyville
senior
centers
do
do
a
lot
of
ridership
there,
so
it
will
be
really
great
if
the
you
know
can
end
at
foothill
instead
of
the
enzyme.
So
my
other
question
is:
if
we
kept
on
saying
it's
there
down
station
to
the
anza.
K
K
Okay,
because
deuteronomy
goes
to
san
carlos,
then
stevens
creek
boulevard.
So
it
goes
all
the
way
through
san
carlos
boulevard
to
gildown
station,
correct,
okay,
so,
okay,
so
yeah.
That
was
curious
because
it
said
so
it
would
be
really
really
good
if
you've
been
from
dildon
station
all
the
way
to
foothill
expressway.
K
So
if
that
could
be,
you
know
verified
sean.
That
would
be
great.
My
second
comment
is,
I
agree
with
council
member
willie.
We
need
to
be
part
of
the
study
because
we
need
to
get
our
opinions
and
get
our
visions
in
there.
So
if
we're
not
in
there,
then
we
would
be
excluded
in
providing
our
input
and,
as
mayor
darcy
verified
that
it
is
not
a
commitment,
but
it's
a
vision
study.
K
So
I
do
agree
with
council
member
willie
that
I
think
cupertino
needs
to
be
part
of
the
vision
study
because
we're
not
an
island
in
in.
In
silicon
valley,
we
need
to
work
with
when
a
transit
is
considered.
We
need
to
work
with
our
neighboring
cities,
because
the
street
is
connected,
connects
to
our
residents
to
other,
not
cities
but
to
job
opportunities
to
shopping
areas.
So
I
do
agree
with
council
member
willie
that
I
think
cupertino
definitely
needs
to
be
part
of
it.
Thank
you.
A
Great
thank
you
councilman
way.
Yeah,
I
mean
I
would
just
comment
that
I
encouraged
the
you
know
the
consultants
to
look
long.
I
mean
I
I
I
think
it
was
a.
It
was
a
fair
response.
The
question
of
how
cupertino's
you
know
sentiments
are
going
to
be
reflected,
but
you
know
frankly
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
really
that
reflective
of
right,
our
our
sentiments
to
say
that
you
know
well,
this
one
component,
transit,
you
know,
is
going
to
be
common,
but
the
other
ones.
A
You
know
things
like
you
know,
bike
paths
and
you
know
pedestrian
walkways.
Well
it
it's
not
an
insignificant
component
right,
the
the
transit
part
of
the
equation.
So
I
mean
I
I
would
say
you
know
cupertino
is
getting
it
right.
I
I
really
think
if
we're
talking
about
a
real
transit
solution
for
a
good
amount
of
time
into
the
future,
we're
talking
about
great
separation,
we're
talking
about
looking
to
the
future
and
trying
to
define
something
that
will
help.
A
You
know
economy
proof
us
in
terms
of
getting
people
from
point
a
to
b,
effectively
which,
after
all,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
is
what
transit
system
is
about.
So
you
know
I.
I
think
we
can
certainly
look
at
issues.
You
know
like
equity,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
think
about
issues
beyond
going
from
10
miles
an
hour
to
11
miles
an
hour.
I
think
we
really
need
to
be.
A
You
know
going
after
what
what
makes
sense
in
in
terms
of
putting
forth
you
know
significant
amounts
of
of
dollars
in
an
effort
over
the
course
of
you
know
a
number
of
years,
so
you
know
I.
I
hope
that
that
kind
of
effort
is
really
reflected
and
put
forth
I'll,
certainly
be
following
this.
You
know
beyond
my
time
as
a
elected
official
here,
because
I
I
think
it's
just
it's
really
quite
important
to
the
future
of
our
economy
and
our
area.
A
If
you
make
good
transit,
the
equities
of
it
are
such
that
everyone
benefits
so
okay.
Well,
can
we
have
a
motion
to
go
ahead
and
pass
the
recommended
action
to
join
on
to
this
study
as
a
as
the
default
notion?
If
we
wanted
to
proceed
further
council
member
willie.
A
A
Will
you
just
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
you're
moving
that
we
approve
participation
in
the
stephens
creek
boulevard,
quarter,
transit
study
to
create
a
cohesive
vision
for
the
stevens
creek
boulevard
corridor,
including
a
study
of
the
potential
for
transit
councilmember
way?
Did
you
want
to
second
councilman
wooley's
motion.
K
I
would
like
to
second
that
with
a
amendment
to
add
to
so,
the
study
in
cupertino
extends
to.
A
Okay,
great
so
councilmember
moore.
I
Okay,
well
considering
some
of
the
the
suggested
modes
of
transportation
that
were
presented
by
san
jose
when
they
did
their
rfi.
Many
of
them
were
very
forward
thinking,
bombardier
monorail,
byd,
monorail
and
sky
shuttle.
They
mentioned
boring
company
having
electric
vehicles
in
a
tunnel
conceptual
pod
cars
things
that
had
not
yet
been
put
into
operation,
considering
those
types
of
grade
separation
that
that
they
had
considered.
I
I
I
you're
welcome
to
include
in
in
your
motion
going
to
foothill
boulevard,
but
I
think
the
realities
of
the
amount
of
density
at
the
west
side
of
of
the
city
compared
to
the
cost
of
these
kinds
of
grade
separated,
transit
options.
I
So
just
just
keep
that
in
mind
and
during
the
december
13th
meeting
that
we
had,
I
did
bring
up
that
cupertino
loves,
stevens,
creek
boulevard
loves
the
trees,
we
love
the
median
the
planted
median
and
we
I've
already
been
spending.
I
want
to
say
millions
of
dollars
on
our
separated
bicycle
lanes,
protected
bicycle
lanes
in
in
the
city
and
in
fact,
in
the
presentation
which
I
saw
they
had
a
photograph
of
it
looked
like
it
was
the
bike
lane
around
main
street
cupertino.
I
I
What
you
see
there
is
a
median
turn
lane
and
you
have
on-street
parking,
so
they
have
a
lot
of
space
and
they
have
a
lot
of
room
for
improvements
and
even
space
for
as
a
bus
lane
as
a
rapid
transit
lane,
whereas
we
are
already
much
more
constrained.
So
I
did
bring
this
up,
that
it
may
be
that
the
best
we
can
do
in
the
short
term
is
provide
prioritized
signal
timing
at
our
intersections
and
that
as
expensive
as
it
is.
I
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
people
would
actually
prefer
in
cupertino
that
this
would
go
underground
if
we
were
going
to
have
a
grade,
separated
transit
and
that
would
that
would
cost
a
lot
of
money.
So
I
did
convey
all
this.
It
has
been
shared.
Just
just
be
warned
that
if
we're
going
all
the
way
to
foothill,
we
might
not
get
the
the
fancy
bells
and
whistles,
because
it's
going
to
get
all
that
much
more
expensive
and
we
might
just
have
the
bus
okay,
that's
it!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
You
know,
I,
I
see
this
motion
as
a
show
of
good
faith
from
cupertino
and
hopefully
that
will
be
reciprocated.
You
know,
given
the
concerns
I'll,
also
point
out
that
you
know
the
bart
extension
is
spending
somewhere
on
the
order
of
several
billions
of
dollars
to
go
underground
into
downtown
san
jose.
A
You
know
and
as
a
matter
of
timing,
it
might
not
be
a
bad
idea
to
see
where
the
wherewithal
goes
from
there.
You
know
I
it
would
be
really
nice
to
have
a
a
good
built
out
transit
system
in
santa
clara
county
and,
if
we're
anticipating
a
lot
of
activity
along
those
lines
going
underground,
just
practically
speaking,
you
know,
certainly,
though
the
dollars
are
there,
you
know
coming
up
in
the
next
10
or
15
or
even
20
years.
Why
not?
A
You
know
think
about
that
as
the
natural
extension
of
what
we're
looking
at
here
as
a
possibility.
I'm
not
sure
I
quite
you
know,
agree
with
the
constriction,
or
at
least
as
I'm
perceiving
it
of
a
rubric
where
a
particular
preferred
mode
is
defined
and
kind
of
pursued.
As
you
know,
the
focal
point
of
a
deliverable,
I
I
think
it
might
make
more
sense
to
keep
more
of
an
open
mind
and
again
you
know
it's
not
even
a
matter
of
shooting
for
the
stars.
A
I
I
think
it's
a
matter
of
you
know
doing
what's
proper
for
infrastructure.
You
know,
don't
think
about.
You
know,
don't
think
about
the
immediate
pressures
from
you
know,
dollars
that
might
be
influenced
by
things
that
are
a
little
bit
more
profit,
driven.
Think
about
the
infrastructure
and
the
policy
from
a
jurisdictional
perspective
and
what
makes
sense
if
you
want
to
make
sure
that
this
area
is
successful.
A
J
So
I
I
see
that
in
our
2019
resolution-
and
we
I
think
we
support
the
the
transit
corridor
along
stephen's,
creek
and
i280
corridor
and
i2a
decorator
is
also
mentioned
in
the
scope
of
work.
So
I
would
envision
continuing
to
foot
hill
does
not
necessarily
mean
going
through
stephen's
creek.
It
could
be
a
along
280
corridor
to
foothill
boulevard
and
that
transit
corridor
right,
so
that
was
in
our
2019
resolution.
So
are
we
asserting
this
resolution
today
or
soon?
Okay,.
R
I
I-280
was
looked
at
in
a
in
a
proposed
previous
scope
of
work,
in
addition
to
the
stephens
creek
corridor
and
the
costs
were
considerably
high
and
so
at
the
at
this
point,
stevens
creek
boulevard
is
the
corridor
of
the
study,
not
not
i280.
J
So
then,
part
of
the
resolution
is
also
not
use.
General
purpose
travel
length
or
adversely
impact
vehicle,
vehicular
capacity
on
city,
surface
streets.
That's
our
2019
resolution
and.
R
With
that
particular
element,
the
part
about
i280
because
of
subsequent
discussions
that
happen
afterwards
and
the
costs
involved,
with
studying
both
we
there
was
a
we
looked
at
with
the
previous
scope
of
work,
studying
just
I-280
and
cupertino
only
and
studying
stephen's
creek
corridor.
In
other.
H
P
J
U
I
believe
the
intent
there
is
to
you
know
more
from
the
vehicular
perspective
of
not
interfering
with
the
ramps,
particularly
because
there
is
concern.
You
know
short
of
a
grade
separation.
If
you're
doing
other
types
of
of
treatments,
there
could
be
interaction
with
the
ramps
and
the
ramp
intersections.
Particularly
that
could
be
problematic.
U
There
are,
there
tend
to
be
a
lot
of
issues
around
caltrans
signals
and
then
coordinating
those
with
the
city's
systems
which
which
does
gets
worked
out,
but
you
know
it
can
change
when
you,
when
you
start
having
different
types
of
movements,
so
so
the
you
know
there's
an
eye
towards
that.
There's
several
obviously
freeway
and
highway
interchanges
within
the
corridor
that
that
could
be
an
issue.
U
We're
also
going
to
take
a
look
at
sort
of
broader
travel
patterns,
understanding
that
so,
when
you're
looking
at
vehicles,
I
I
would
conjecture
that
they're
not
allowed
people
that
drive
the
full
length
of
stevens
creek.
They
may
be
dipping
down
to
280
and
rejoining
stevens
creek
and
all
sorts
of
things
like
that.
So
as
part
of
the
broader
travel
patterns
that
would
be
studied.
J
Okay,
so
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
in
other
countries
it
seems
here
people
are
thinking.
Oh,
we
need
density
in
order
to
have
transit,
but
that's
not
the
case
in
other
countries.
I
lived
in
germany
where
it's
suburban
of
munich.
Our
area
is
all
single-family
home.
We
have
street
stressing
bomb.
I
mean
flight
rail
going
through
that
area
so
and
then
in
taipei.
Also
that
there
are,
I
mean
it
because
you
do
need
that
network
in
order
to
support
the
transit
system.
J
It's
not
like,
if
you
only
connect
the
core
that
really
doesn't
support
the
entire
city
and
that
kind
of
transit
doesn't
work.
You
need
to
reach,
provide
a
grid
of
transit
yeah.
So
that's
why
I
think
it's
important
to
include
a
foothill
boulevard,
because
those
population
will
perk
and
then
they
will
make
this
a
better
transit
system.
A
U
I
I
guess
I
would
think
it
would
be
something
in
the
form
that
there
would
be
a
vision
like
a
very
long-term
vision
and
there
would
be
steps
to
get
there
and
also
interim
investments
that
help
mobility
now,
at
probably
a
pretty
small
level
and
at
larger
levels
like
like
signal
priority
that
type
of
thing
where
many
communities
are
doing
those
types
of
upgrades
that
are
fairly
cost
effective.
U
U
We
would
also
probably
see
a
formalization
of
programs
of
like
transit
access
and
maybe
even
parking
as
well.
Santa
clara
is
very
interested
in
parking,
not
only
along
stevens
creek,
but
looking
at
the
streets
they're
connecting
to
it.
So
they
had
us
add
in
parking
inventories
along
there,
so
that
that
probably
be
a
component,
probably
not
as
big
a
deal
cupertino
because,
as
you
said,
there
is
no
on-street
parking
on
stevens
creek.
There
are
adjacent
roadways
which
could
be
looked
at
as
well.
A
U
Right
yeah,
I
mean
that
is
the
drawback.
I
will
say
one
of
the
the
things
that's
holding
back.
The
acceleration
of
building
more
transit
in
the
united
states
frankly,
is
that
we
don't,
you
know
already
do
enough
of
it.
It's
not
sort
of
a
constant
building,
and
hopefully,
as
you're
saying,
there's
sort
of
like
there
will
be
enough
resources
available
that
around
the
bay
area,
they're
continually,
building
out
transit.
U
That's
how
you
sort
of
begin
to
get
costs
to
come
down,
because
you
have
a
professional
group
and
the
equipment
to
just
keep
going.
So
you
see,
cities
reach
a
critical
mass,
usually
when
they're
building
out
rail
systems,
where
they're
just
they
seem
like
they're
continually
building.
Well,
that's
because
it
sort
of
becomes
much
cheaper
on
a
unit
cost
basis.
U
As
you
go
out,
we're
still
talking
about
big
sums
of
money,
of
course,
but
yeah
I
mean
I
I
would
my
biggest
guess
is
that
we
would
have
different
types
of
improvements
in
different
time
frames,
because
you
don't
just
want
to
pause
everything
and,
like
you
said,
sort
of
hit
that
home
run
very
long
term.
U
You
definitely
want
to
have
benefits
for
people
as
soon
as
possible
that
we
know
are
cost
effective,
and
so
I
would
hope
that
we
would
have
sort
of
staged
implementation
getting
towards
that
broader
vision,
because
it's
really
about
mobility
and
the
needs
of
people
today
and
then,
of
course,
as
we're
forecasting.
The
future
with
development
coming
in.
A
Okay,
well,
it
seems
like
you'll
call
out
the
specifics.
You
know
as
as
we're
working
along.
So
let's
go
to
councilmember
moore.
I
Thank
you.
I
do
have
a
question
probably
for
the
city
attorney.
Would
you
happen
to
know
if
there's
a
transit
center
part
of
the
the
valco
sp
35
plan,
because
to
my
recollection
we
don't
have
one,
and
so
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking
in
terms
of
the
future.
Where
would
we
even
have
a
transit
center
like,
like
you
see
at,
I
believe
it's
the
milpita
station,
maybe
berryessa
parking
garages,
plenty
of
places
for
people
to
park
and
ride.
But
would
you
happen
to
recall
if
there
is
one
there
so.
Q
It's
it's.
It's
not
part
of
the
approved
project.
I
think
you
know.
I
believe
there
would
be
some
interest
in
in
accommodating
that
at
the
location,
but
but
at
this
point
it's
not
part
of
the
approved
price
project,
so
you
know
we'd
be
the
subject
of
further
discussion.
I
Also,
there
is
pre-covered
tremendous
amount
of
north-south
traffic
on
lawrence,
expressway,
danza,
saratoga,
sunnyvale
and
then
saratoga
as
well,
and
you
know
please
take
that
into
consideration
when
you're
looking
at
future
options
for
what
will
have
the
flexibility
to
connect
with
the
north
south
routes,
because
I
actually
personally
think
that
the
lawrence
expressway
north
south
route,
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
city
place
gets
underway
in
in
santa
clara,
we're
going
to
really
be
suffering
on
that
particular
expressway.
I
A
J
J
A
A
So
can
we
do
that
and
be
consistent
with
what
the
recommendation
is,
because
vice
versa
is
correct.
I
mean
that
is
you
know
taken
directly
from
the
resolution
that
was
passed
by
cupertino
back
in
2019,
and
you
know,
if
we're
talking
about
signal
priority,
I
think
we
can
probably
easily
do
a
carve
out.
I
mean
if
you're
talking
about
other
modes
of
transit
that
would
implicate.
You
know
that
language
that
was,
you
know
specifically
identified
in
the
cupertino
2019
resolution.
I
think
we're
talking
about
a
different
situation.
A
So
would
you
be
able
to
work
with
that
language
if
the
the
the
motion
was
amended?
True,
you
know
to
reflect
consistency
with
our
2019
resolution.
In
that
regard,
it
I'll.
R
Think
that
we
could
include
any
any
language
like
that
into
the
motion,
although
I
think
that
honestly,
really
it's
it's
it's
my
my
my
job
and
and
also
the
the
role
of
of
the
appointed
council
member
to
the
committee
overseeing
this
to
ensure
that
that
resolution
is
being
met
in
cupertino.
R
We're
really
hoping
not
to
have
too
many
too
many
things
that
would
potentially
inhibit
creative
and
innovation,
create
creativeness
and
innovation.
By
saying,
okay,
we'll
study
this,
but
not
x,
y
z
and
all
these
things.
But
but
of
course,.
G
R
Can
include
it
and,
and
my
role
would
be
to
with
the
staff
working
group
that
would
help
oversee
the
the
project-
implementation
of
the
project,
to
make
sure
that
we
aren't
taking
lanes
in
cupertino
and
doing
all
these
things
the
community
doesn't
want,
and
the
council
doesn't
want.
Okay,.
A
Great
well,
I
I
guess
the
flip
side
of
it.
It
could
foster
more
creativity
right
to
kind
of
put
that
you
know
as
opposed
to
making
it
easier
to.
You
know,
go
go
with
a
default
okay!
Well,
let
me
go
to
the
motion
maker
and
I
believe
that
was
council
member
willie
with
the
second
from
councilmember
away,
or
do
I
have
that
reversed.
A
What
I
said:
yeah,
okay,
so
councilmember
willie.
Will
you
accept
that,
as
a
friendly
amendment
to
your
motion.
L
Yeah
I'll
accept
it.
I
I
do
somewhat
agree
with
chris's
concern
that
it
it
you
know
there.
There
are
things
that
could
go
down,
stephen's,
creek,
being
creative,
possibly
and
but
I
I'd
say:
let's,
let's
go
ahead
and
give
it
a
try,
see
how
it
goes
so.
Yeah.
A
Okay,
thank
you
councilmember,
willie
and
councilman.
Why
do
you
accept
that,
as
the
secondary
motion.
K
I
really
don't,
because
I
don't.
This
is
a
vision,
study
and
that's
going
to
be
visualized
next
decade
or
even
two
decades
of
possibilities
and
to
put
this
kind
of
a
restrictions
on
it.
I
think
it
would
only
inhibit
the
vision,
the
visioning
part
of
it,
and
but
we
could
have
that
guideline
for
our
staff
or
council
members
going
into
representing
us
into
the
study.
I
just
don't
think
we
should
have
such
specific
restrictions
on
it,
so
that
the
divisioning
or
the
innovative
things
can
can
be
restricted.
K
K
A
Okay,
okay,
yeah,
all
right,
so
the
motion
is
not
changed.
Vice
mayor
ciao.
Do
you
have
anything
further
at
this
time.
J
I'd
like
to
clarify
I,
this
is
not
a
restriction,
it
just
says
preferably
not
using,
and
then
I
assume
the
study
will
consider
multiple
options
and,
like
a
mayor
said
usually
when
there
is
some
restriction,
that's
when
it
will
promote
more
innovation,
for
example,
it
could
be
a
power
plant
on
the
air
right
which
some
other
city
I
think
have
studied.
J
A
Can
make
a
substitution?
Let
me
let
me
just
ask
that
you
know
put
that
back
up.
If
you
don't
mind,
okay,
I
just
want
you
to
clean
up
the
language
on
it.
So
if
you
can
yeah
share
your
screen
again,
so
we
can
take
a
look.
Can
you
change
the
or
in
your
additional
language,
to
a
nor.
Q
J
A
Okay,
so
vice
versa,
substitute
motion
and
I'm
seconding
vice
mayor,
chelsea
substitute
motion.
Okay,
vice
versa,
you
have
your
hand
raised,
but
I'm
assuming
that
you're
not
looking
to
deliberate
further
on
this.
You
have
the
substitute
motion
on
the
table.
A
Now
I
will
point
out
that,
yes,
you
know
looking
at
the
language
of
your
substitute
motion
again,
it
is
not
binding
and
I
will
reiterate
that
as
a
seconder,
you
know
if
that
so-called
creative
and
innovative
spirit
you
know
requires
it
go
ahead,
and
you
know
put
that
you
know
mode
or
modes
that
you're
looking
at
you
know
to
to
sean
and
your
colleagues
in
your
in
your
deliverables,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
reiteration
of
cupertino's
position,
so
I'm
not
seconding
it
as
a
as
a
binding
of
your
your
work
potentially,
but
as
a
affirmation
of
what
what
cupertino's
position
is
here?
A
Okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
if
there
are
no
further
comments
from
council
go
ahead
and
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
motion
on
the
substitute
motion.
Madam
city
clerk.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Madison
state
clerk
we're
at
11
23
right
now.
We
are
not
going
to
have
time
to
give
sufficient
due
to
our
work
plan
update,
and
so
my
my
suggestion
is
that
we
continue
this
meeting.
I
would
suggest
this
thursday
evening.
If
this
thursday
evening
doesn't
work,
then
we
can
try
next
tuesday,
the
22nd.
A
K
A
Okay,
well,
hearing,
no
objections,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
continue
this
meeting
until
the
evening
of
february,
17
2022
at
a
time
certain
of
seven
o'clock
p.m,
and
so,
madam
city
clerk,
if
you
could
please
conduct
that
notice
so
that
we
can
reconvene
our
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
february
15
2022
until
that
date
and
time
without
any
further.
You
know
delay
we'll,
go
ahead
and
complete
the
rest
of
the
agenda
at
that
time
as
well
the
non-enumerated
items.
So
thank
you
very
much.
We
had
some
really
great
discussions
tonight.