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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - April 5, 2022 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the Tuesday, April 5, 2022 Cupertino City Council Meeting. Part 2 of 2.
A
We're
at
8
40,
and
so
let's
start
up
with
item
number
12
again
where
we're
at
with
this.
This
is
our
work
plan
item
and
we
have
heard
the
staff
presentation
and
we've
heard
from
our
members
of
the
public
who
had
input
on
this
item
and
so
I'll
bring
it
back
to
council.
A
At
this
point,
let's
start
off
with
any
questions
that
we
have
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
us
off
with
councilmember
moore
here
I'll
just
you
know,
set
us
to
a
few
minutes
three
minutes
each
for
this
first
go
around.
B
Hey
thank
you,
mayor,
paul
and
I'm
not
sure
who
to
direct
this
question
to.
I
actually
find
this
process
really
confusing.
B
So
I,
when
I
look
at
the
existing
work
plan
and
then
the
new
items,
I
see
some
overlap,
so
I'm
not
really
sure
what
to
do,
but
with
with
that
and
some
of
the
some
of
the
items
don't
show
up
in
the
same
as
high
up
on
the
list
last
year
as
they're
showing
up
this
year.
So
I'm
a
little
confused
about
how
we
integrate
these
two
lists
and
then,
like
a
member
of
the
public,
mentioned,
there's
the
issue
with
the
cip
items.
B
So
I
I
wonder
if
we're,
if,
if
the
process
is
making
a
lot
of
sense
and
then
looking
at
this
from
a
the
member
of
the
public's
standpoint,
it
it
kind
of
feels
like
people
are
throwing
in
items
at
the
last
minute
and
then
gathering
up
as
much
support
they
can
and
kind
of
lobbying
for
them,
and-
and
I
really
feel
particularly
for
the
people
with
regards
to
the
carmen
road
issue,
which
wasn't
previously
on
the
list.
And
now
we
have.
B
B
So
if
there's
some
suggestion
for
how
we
are
supposed
to
add
in
items
at
this
point,
because
I
heard
things
like
the
vacancy
tax
foreign
ownership
tax
tasks,
restricting
this
resist
restricting
corporate
ownership
to
apartments.
I
thought
all
interesting
worth
discussing.
I
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
end
up
on
our
list.
B
I
wanted
a
simple
facilities,
inventory
and
long-range
plan
for
some
of
our
properties
like
burn
and
bletch
and
stocklemire
seem
like
a
fairly
practical
type
of
item
to
to
end
up
on
the
list,
but
we
don't
seem
to
be
doing
that
and
we
do
need
some
budget
policies
you
think
about
budget
policies.
They
don't
really
rise
to
the
expense
of
a
four
million
dollar
project.
But
how
does
that?
How
does
that
tie
in
and
and
get
blended
with
this
list?
B
A
Well,
yeah
I'd
like
to
make
a
quick
comment
on
that
before
we
bring
this
to
staff
commentary,
I
mean,
I
think,
councilman
moore.
If
you
had
a
particular
item
that
you
wanted
on
there,
I
think
it
should
have
at
least
gotten
some
rating
right,
because
we
had
an
opportunity
as
a
council
to
identify
particular
items
that
we'd
like
to
see.
So,
if
you're
talking
about
an
inventory
of
various
city
properties,
then
that
should
certainly
be
on
there.
A
If
that's
one
of
our
our
priorities,
because
that
was
the
whole
point
of
the
exercise
between
our
last
council
meeting
and
this
one
to
be
able
to
give
the
council
an
opportunity
to
you
know
to
to
rate
and
add
those
items
that
we
saw
would
would
end
up
being
added.
I
do
see
your
hand
is
raised
again,
I'm
assuming
that
you
want
to
respond
to
that
point
before
I
call
on
staff
to
follow
up
on
on
your
other
parts
of
your
inquiry
or
including
this
one.
B
A
Okay,
well
thanks
very
much
I
mean
just
you
know
to
to
that
point
again
I
mean
if
you
have
another
preference
I
mean
I
think
it
could
have
been
added
from
you
know
within
our
process
here,
but
to
your
point
as
to
adding
you
know,
items
right
now.
I
I
think
we
would
take
that
under
advisement.
I
mean
that's
that,
in
my
opinion,
that's
a
good
point.
If
we're
adding
something
you
know
right
now,
given
the
fact
that
this
has
been,
you
know
properly
noticed
for
a
couple
of
meetings
now.
A
C
Yes,
oh,
did
you
want
to
speak
city
manager,
troop.
C
So,
in
terms
of
the
overlap
with
existing
city
work
program
items
as
we
presented
at
the
march
8th
meeting,
some
of
these
projects
are
multi-year,
and
so
there
will
be
some
carryovers,
and
so
those
carryover
items
are
included
in
this
list
if
they
did
get
a
rating
from
council
members
in
terms
of
inclusion
of
cip
staff
is
always
recommended
to
keep
cip
as
a
separate
process,
because
it
does
have
its
own
process
as
part
of
the
budget.
C
It
is
a
little
complicated
when
we
start
putting
them
in
both
places,
but
you
know
it's
at
the
will
of
the
council
and
in
the
past
we
have
been
directed
to
add
some
of
those
cip
projects,
and
so
we've
done
so
and
then
also
in
terms
of
adding
items.
Mayor
paul
is
correct
that
the
I
think
the
idea
was
that
council
members
could
add
new
items
during
the
rating
process
between
march
8th
and
then
this
meeting,
but,
of
course
at
the
will
of
the
council.
C
E
First,
in
responding
to
k,
councilmember
moore's
comment,
remember
in
2018
red
knot.
Creek
trail
was
added
in
june
at
the
council
meeting,
when
the
former
council
approved
the
final
budget.
That
item
never
appeared
even
before
that
it
wasn't
even
on
the
agenda,
but
carmen
bridge.
This
is
early,
but
I
agree
that
it
should
be
on
the
cip
project
list
when
that
comes
to
the
agenda,
and-
and
I
assume
that
today,
when
we
make
a
final
motion,
we
will
have
some
revised
description
and
add
new
items.
A
Well,
I
think
vice
mayor
that
that
process
is
largely
driven
by
council,
and
I
understand
that
staff
is
basically
saying
that
you
have
a
list
in
front
of
you.
There
are
current
rankings,
we're
hearing
public
commentary
and
then
with
well
with
the
benefit
of
that.
With
our
deliberation
we
could
also,
you
know,
potentially
come
up
with
a
re-ranking
if
I'm
understanding
that
the
preference
from
staff-
and-
I
think
katie-
you
had
indicated
this
to
us
a
a
little
while
back
with
regard
to
you
know
what
the
what
the
advisement
was.
C
E
C
E
C
So
and
anyone
from
public
works,
you
can
feel
free
to
correct
me,
but
I
believe
the
inclusive
playground
is
part
of
the
cip
program
and
is
being
worked
on.
The
again
like
I
said,
we
we've
tried
to
not
have
all
the
cips
in
the
city
work
program,
but
if
the
ones
you
do
see
are
because
council
has
specifically
requested,
they
be
part
of
the
work.
E
It's
not
like.
You
are
paving
a
road
or
building
a
bike
path.
There
are
more
options
to
select
different
features
to
choose
from.
That's
not
my
question
anyway.
The
next
one
is
for
those
items
marked
as
not
include
operational.
It's
great.
E
F
D
Would
be
if
it
is
an
operational
item,
then
we
would
attribute
that
to
whichever
department
to
work
on
that
as
an
operational
matter.
Again,
I
think,
as
katie's
pointed
out.
Some
of
these
have
come
on
just
so
that
they're
pointed
out
to
the
to
the
staff
or
the
other
council
or
to
the
public
just
to
make
sure
that
they
are
being
accounted
for.
So
that's
why
they're
on
there.
F
C
G
E
E
I
will
assume
that
the
stated
objective
is
the
one
okay
another
question
since
it's
operational,
for
example
the
artwork
in
the
library
and
labyrinth
kind
of
project.
My
understanding,
then,
is
that
the
commission
could
still
put
the
items
on
their
work
program.
It's
not
on
the
councilwork
program,
that's
good,
but
they
should.
The
commission
should
still
be
able
to
put
put
put
on
their
work
program,
so
they
can
get
updates
if
available,
without
taking
extra
staff
time
and
give
feedback
on
as
needed,
and
in
case
the
commission
would
like
something
extra.
E
A
D
Yes,
if
I
understood
it
correctly
so
say
like
with
the
laboratory,
if
they
decided
that
they
wanted
to
get
as
an
example,
just
a
group
of
volunteers
to
go
out
and
do
something
that
they
wanted
to
go
out
and
clean
up
one
of
them
or
reestablish
it
in
a
better
format.
That
would
be
something
that
they
could
do
without
having
to
be
part
of
of
the
work
plan.
Yes,.
E
A
D
A
An
opportunity
across
council
to
get
this
initial
round
in
so
council
member
willie.
H
Yeah,
so
so
the
first
one,
nice
presentation,
katie
one
quick
question
for
you.
You
said
a
survey
was
done.
I'm
really
big
on
community
engagement,
how
good
or
how
poor
are
we
doing?
How
many
responses
did
you
get
for
the
survey
that
was
done
and
if.
H
Excellent,
I
mean
to
me
that
speaks
to
me,
okay,
so
now
for
our
work
plan
for
tonight,
the
first
ones
I'd
like
to
keep
our
list
to
about
30.,
maybe
plus
a
few.
H
H
That
being
said,
it
sure
seems
like
there's
a
couple.
Duplications
still
existing
on
the
list,
the
list
that
I'm
using,
which
was
from
this
week,
I'm
not
sure
it's
the
most
most
recent
one
number
five
is
lawrence
middie
and
number
31,
I'm
sorry
number
26
is
lawrence
middy,
so
number
five
got
ratings
from
close,
but
one
didn't
and
then
lauren
smitty
got
one
rating
from
the
one,
but
none
of
the
others.
So
again,
that
sure
looks
like
duplication
line
five
and
line
26
then
line.
Eight
is
the
homeless
jobs
program.
H
But
when
I
look
at
item
31
that
says
support
for
unhoused
residents
in
the
description
it
says
it's
the
program
so
once
again
line
31
only
had
one
person
that
ranked
it
and
they
did
not
put
a
number
rating
on
line
eight,
while
the
other
councilman
all
did
so.
I
think
it
was
just
wow,
the
the
second
one
before
the
first
one
and
thought
they
were
done,
communicate
community
engagement,
I'm
seeing
line
25
and
it
seems
awfully
similar
to
line
27
25.
H
H
A
Well,
thank
you
councilman,
william.
You
know
I
will
speak
to
your
lawrence
mini
item.
I
I
added
that,
because
I
thought
that
we
need
a
project
manager
and
then
for
the
homeless
item
the
unhoused
item.
I
added
that
as
well,
because
I
thought
that
would
serve
well
to
consolidate
a
few
of
the
items
that
were
on
the
prior
draft,
but
that
enumerated
consolidation.
I
I
did
indicate
which
ones
I
was
consolidating
when
I
edited,
but
that
didn't
make
it
over
to
this
this
draft.
A
So
you
know
that
that's
how
that
got
in
there
so
council
member
way.
I
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
paul.
Actually,
I
was
just
gonna
clarify
that
too,
all
the
other
ones
with
just
one
person.
That's
we
added,
because
we
had
the
time
between
last
time
to
this
time
to
add
up
to
five.
I
believe,
okay,
so
that's
why
we
have
14
new
items.
There
might
be
some
overlapping
because
maybe
like
mayor
paul,
wants
to
expand
it
a
little
bit
and
have
a
little
difference
so
yeah
so
councilman,
william,
was
going
to
say
what
mayor
paul
says.
I
I
think
we
went
through
this
same
pro
same
process
last
year
when
we're
doing
this,
and
we
did
give
us
like
15
minutes
we
were
doing.
I
remember
I
was
doing
the
ranking
and
submitted,
and
so,
according
to
the
agenda,
I
did
get
a
message
that
we
are
going
to
do
that.
But
of
course,
this
council
that
we
could
always
update
it
and
choose
to
do
it
later
or-
and
I
do
agree
with
katie-
we
need
to
do
it
sooner
than
later.
I
The
public
does
have
the
right
to
add
more
things
on
this
item
because
that's
their
opinion
and
I
think
it's
up
to
council
to
decide
whether
we're
going
to
take
new
things
or
not.
I
want
to
be
rational
and
reasonable
because
we
have
so
many
items
there
is
like
council
member
really
says
there
is
no.
I
We
can
continue
to
add
things,
but
the
staff
is
not
going
to
have
time
to
do
it.
So
we
really
need
to
prioritize.
What's
the
most
10
20,
that's
we
want
to
start
to
work
on
this
year.
Again
it
doesn't
mean
the
things
that
we
are
not
in
it.
That's
not
going
to
be
worked
on.
It's
just
not
going
to
be
worked
out
on
the
2022
2023
year.
So
let's
be
rational
and
reasonable
and
not
piling
a
whole
bunch
of
things
in
there.
I
Knowing
that
the
staff
cannot
finish,
it
doesn't
have
the
time,
and
I
do
want
to
ask
one
question.
I
know
carmen
bridge
was
on
the
cip
and
it
it
actually
maybe
was
on
the
work
plan
to
have
a
little
bit
money
to
work
on
to
resolve
the
easement
or
ownership
issues,
but
somehow
it
was
dropped
from
this
year
and
it
just
katie
just
said
so.
I
realized
it's
on
a
cip
plan,
so
I
want
to
say
if
we
want
to
consider
it
on
the
cip.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
councilman
way
and
I
don't
have
questions,
and
so
if
anyone
wants
to
go
back
to
you
know
follow-up
questions
vice
versa.
I
know
you
had
somebody.
I
think
you
indicated
your
questions
at
that
point.
Councilmember.
Will
you
have
your
hand
raised?
Oh,
and
I
do
want
to
you
know-
thank
you,
council,
member,
vice
mayor
ciao,
for
asking
your
questions
with
regard
to
clarifying
what
something
means
when
it
says
it's
operational,
because
you
know,
I
think
I
put
it
in
a
much
more.
A
You
know
kind
of
like
simplistic
manner.
If
it,
if
it
says
operational,
does
that
mean
it's
just
completely
out
of
our
hands,
and
I
do
appreciate
you
pushing
on
that
and
asking
if
the
project
description
is
essentially
going
to
be
delivered,
because
once
it
becomes
operational,
we
really
we
don't
have
any
transparency
as
to
how
it's
being
treated,
and
so
I
I
think,
that's
a
very
important
question
to
ask
council
member
willie.
You
had
your
hand
raised
again.
Did
you
want
to
follow
up
on
any
questions.
H
H
H
Ultimately,
I
put
on
the
work
plan
so
that
we
would
get
updates
and
we
would
be
involved
things
like
the
labyrinth.
Things
of
potential
dola
things
like
a
possible
all-inclusive
playground
as
we're
getting
inputs
from
the
community
parks
and
rec,
is
getting
input
too,
but
our
set
of
eyes,
I
think,
are
very
crucial
also
and
we
need
to
be
engaged
and
not
wait
for
the
end
of
the
year
when
we
do
the
next
work
plan
to
find
out
what
transpired.
H
5G
is
another
one
where,
as
a
city
councilman,
I
was
told
it's
not
your
purview,
that's
that's
public
works,
and
yet
we
got
hundreds
of
emails
from
residents
and
yet
no
updates
and
no
involvement,
and
so
again
that
wound
up
on
the
work
plan
so
that
we
do
get
involved
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
The
next
couple
items
I'd
like
to
kind
of
maybe
change
a
couple
of
my
rankings.
H
I
knew
the
single-use
plastics
was
important
to
the
mirror,
so
I
did
give
that
a
three
one
of
my
threes,
knowing
that
it
was
possibly
going
to
end,
but
I
didn't
know
that
it
would
truly
be
finished
or
not.
Since
I'm
the
only
one
that
gave
it
points,
I
would
like
to
remove
my
three
from
single-use
plastics.
H
H
H
So
I
would
like
to
add
an
item
for
the
city
properties
and
I
would
like
to
assign
it
a
three
of
mine
that
I
have
available
and
I'll
use
the
other
three
after
I
hear
from
the
other
councilman,
but
that's
my
eliminate
two
items
that
were.
I
was
the
only
one.
So
if
we
have
56,
we
now
have
54.
H
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
john
thank
you
councilmember
and
katie.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
chelsea
willie's.
C
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that,
if,
if
a
council
member
added
an
item
that
was
not
part
of
the
original
proposed
document
that
wasn't
circulated
to
the
rest
of
the
council
members,
so
this
would
be
the
first
time
they're
seeing
it
and
that's
why
there's
only
one
score
for
those
items.
So
just
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
for
everyone.
So
it's
not
that
no
one
thought
it
was
important.
C
Necessarily
they
just
haven't
had
a
chance
to
rate
it
and
that's
why,
in
this
four
portion
of
the
rating
is
when
everyone
will
get
to
rate
all
of
the
items,
including
the
14
new
ones,
from
the
council
members.
A
Yeah
and
for
mayor's
cup
and
the
plastic
single-use
plastics
ordinance,
the
the
the
list
was
out
there
at
a
time
when
we
were
uncertain
as
to
when
the
event
would
take
place,
because
we
were
going
to
hold
the
event
in
the
new
library,
expansion,
and
so
the
new
library
expansion
is
going
to
be
opening
on
april
29th
and
we'll
be
having
that
that
event
on
may
14th,
and
so
that's
why
I
didn't
vote
for
it,
because
I
knew
that
there
was
a
definitive
sunset
and
the
single-use
plastics
ordinance,
of
course,
is
is
before
us
later
this
evening
for
for
first
reading
so
yeah
I
mean,
of
course
I
support
the
mayor's
cup,
and
I
appreciate
that
you
know
our
entire
council
here
voted
that
the
top
priority
for
this
current
fiscal
year,
so
councilman
roy.
A
I
understand
what
you're
saying
there
and
you
know
I.
I
agree
with
your
removal
of
those
points.
Since
it
is
squarely
within
our
current
fiscal
year.
We
have
hands
raised
from
vice
mayor,
ciao
and
council
member
way,
vice
mayor
chao,.
E
E
So
my
understanding
of
how
today
should
go
is
if
we
have
on
any
item
to
add
or
revise
on
their
objective,
we
should
propose
and
then,
if
eventually
we
would
approve
a
motion
to
on
things
that
we
agree
on
and
maybe
we
would
rank
after
that
because
for
ranking.
I
think
I
really
need
to
think
about
that.
So
I
took
some
of
that
and
then
I
also
learned
that
in
the
past
three
years,
if
we
put
something
on
work
program
by
the
way
I
didn't
specify
the
language.
E
Clearly,
the
outcome
would
become
different
from
what
we
had
in
mind.
So
I
paid
more
attention
to
write
down
what
specifically
what
I
think
this
objective
is
to
clarify
some
confusion,
but
but
for
number
one
it's
not
that
number
one
is.
I
would
like
to
add
the
burn
avenue
property
to
the
list,
because
it
was
on
the
councilwork
program,
2019
and
20,
and
then
dropped
the
last
year
and
I
spoke
to
two
non-profit
organizations
and
they
are
so
at
least
one
is
very
interested
another
one.
E
I'm
talking
to
tomorrow,
I'm
hoping
they're
interested
tomorrow
is
the
habitat
for
humanity
and
the
the
other
one
is
bay
area,
housing
cooperation.
They
are
very
interested
in
developing
memory
care
units
for
mentally
disabled
people,
so
that
location
works
for
them.
They
think
so
so
I
hope
that's
some
something
we
continue
to
explore
and
then
number
three
here's
the
revised
one
objective
for
stan
for
dola.
E
They
are,
if
they're
not
next
to
an
ethnic
area
that
may
be
simpler,
and
then
I
would
propose
that
we
form
a
task
force,
as
I
said,
with
truth
parks
and
rec,
commission,
member
and
some
dollar
champions,
so
that
they
can
together
from
rules
and
help
standardize
this
process
to
facilitate
and
also
keep
order.
So
that's
my
proposal.
I
have
other
items
that
I
have
written.
A
What's
your
time
estimate
for
having
to
go
over
your
proposal
here.
E
E
A
J
J
A
J
So
so,
what's
been,
agenda
is
is,
is
is
setting
priorities
for
the
the
work
program
for
next
year
to
the
extent
that
the
council
members
can-
and
I
understand
this-
this
is
challenging.
J
J
Don't
I
I
don't,
I
I
don't
think,
there's
a
need
to
call
attention
to
any
specific
issue.
I
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
and
thank
you
vice
mayor
for
your
details,
but
I
do
have
you
know.
Maybe
it's
not
an
issue
of
whether
we
should
talk
about
it
is
I
need
time
to
absorb
all
your
writings
because
it
just
I
just
can't
have
looking
at
it
right
now
and
then
say:
what
are
we
going
to
do
in
reality?
In
the
details,
like
you
know,
turning
princess,
because
those
details,
I
think,
still
need
to
be
vetted
with
input
from
the
council
in
front
the
public.
So
I
want
to
repeat
back.
E
So
these
are
not
details.
All
I'm
saying
is
as
part
of
the
senior
strategy.
We
should
do
a
thing
in-depth
survey,
because
the
survey
this
year
is
too
superficial.
E
I
could
have
just
said
it
it's
very
simple
and
then
and
then
that
we
should
also
survey
address
the
needs
of
seniors
who
plan
to
age
at
home,
because
that's
important
or
part
of
the
senior
strategy
we
have.
I
could
have
said
that,
but
to
help
the
staff
I
have
written
it
so
that
when
we
propose
that
the
submotion
is
clear,
if
I
just
said
it
verbally,
how
do
you
make
that
emotion
right?
So
I'm
planning
that
this
will
be
emotion.
B
All
right,
I
believe,
council
member
way
at
her
hand
up
before
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
will
go
okay,
I'm
not
hearing.
A
F
K
B
Okay,
so
I
I
still
find
this
process
a
bit
of
the
sausage
making
and
understanding
how
the
old
work
plan
works
with
a
new
one.
I'm
still
having
problems
with
that,
and
I
and
I
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
of
information
about
that.
It's
still
as
clear
as
mud
to
me
and
then
the
next
steps
that
we're
moving
on
to.
I
don't
quite
understand
them,
but
I
do
want
to
see
added
on
and
I
and
I
think
it
does
get
into
policy.
B
I
want
to
see
added
on
that
that
we
have
a
plan
for
the
city
properties.
When
a
council
member
then
says
I
want
this
property
to
become
this,
then
you're
getting
into
more
of
a
more
a
little
more
detailed
than
I
would
want,
because
I
frankly
don't
agree
with
the
suggestion
that
I
heard
made.
B
B
Assist
with
home
ownership
of
some
form,
or
I
I
don't
know
how
to
kind
of
get
a
more
generalized
way
to
describe
those
suggestions
that
that
might
make
an
interesting
topic
of
discussion
having
a
study
session
for
what
we
can
do,
do
we
agree
with
having
a
vacancy
tax?
Is
that
something
we're
interested
in?
Do
we
agree
with
the
foreign
ownership
that
could
possibly
be
something
on
the
list,
so
I
want
to
know
what
our
what
our
end
point
is
tonight.
B
There
are
items
on
the
list
which
I
kind
of
thought
we
should
have
crossed
out,
because
staff
said
not
included
and
to
me
I
just
went
through
and
and
scratched
those
out,
but
I
would
need
the
council
to
look
at
those
and
then
there's
there's
a
handful
of
them
and
and
decide
if
council
agrees
to
remove
them,
and
I
would
like
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
some
of
those
not
included
suggestions,
why
they
were,
if
actually,
if
katie,
could
go
through
real
quickly
and
say,
there's
just
there's
a
handful
and
say
why
briefly
the
the
idea
was
to
not
include
because
we
can
really
crop
down
our
list
pretty
fast.
B
If
we
agree
that
we
agree
with
staff
on
those
items
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councilmember
moore.
With
regard
to
those
not
included
items,
I
will
note
that
on
on
some
of
them,
staff
does
have
a
reason
under
the
not
included
designation
on
some
of
them.
It
just
states
not
included,
and
so,
if
we
were
to
follow
up
on
your
suggestion
and
ask
for
clarity
on
those
items,
katie
are
you
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
speak
to
those
items
readily?
In
other
words,
do
you
have
the
do?
C
If,
if
you'd
like
me
to
go
one
by
one,
I
can
I
think,
as
you've
mentioned,
where
there
was
you
know,
if
it's
operational
we've
mentioned
it
or
if
it
you
know,
it's
just
staffing
and
bandwidth
constraint.
It's
been
mentioned,
there
was
one
that
you
know
it's
already
actually
been
implemented.
C
That
was
the
had
to
do
with.
I
think,
okay.
A
Let
me
let
me
go
through
this,
then
on
number
eight,
the
homeless
jobs
program,
it
has
a
consolidated,
11
score
and
it
says
not
include.
What's
the
reason
for
that.
C
A
C
C
Include
aesthetics
and
from
my
understanding
and
perhaps
public
works,
has
more
information
on
this.
Aesthetics
were
already
discussed
in
part
of
certain
agreements
that
have
already
been
developed
and
gone
through
council
approval,
and
so
it
was
not
deemed
it
was
deemed
as
it
was
already
worked
on.
K
A
Okay,
so
let
me
go
on
to
items
34
and
37.
You
have
not
include
operational
for
both
the
labyrinth
program
and
catalytic
converter
theft.
A
So
going
back
to
your
prior
discussion
with
vice
mayor
chow,
if
his
states
not
include
operational,
what
does
that
mean?
Does
that
mean
it's
going
to
be
operationally
delivered
as
described,
or
does
that
mean
this
general
category
of
the
like
is
something
that's
operational
and
we
don't
really
have
a
sense
of
whether
it's
going
to
be
delivered
as
described.
C
So
this
one
for
kind
of,
like
catalytic
converter,
we
explain
what
we
mean
in
terms
of
its
operational.
The
sheriff's
offices
incorporates
much
of
the
recommended
action
into
into
regular
operations,
the
block
leaders.
They
have
a
regular
update,
they're
at
our
public
safety
commission
meetings.
We
do
now
also
publish
information
on
our
website
and
they
do
share
tips
and
tricks
on
how
to
prevent
these
crimes
from
happening.
C
A
So
you
know
I'm
taking
that
to
mean
that
the
item
description
is
not
something
that
is
going
to
be
of
necessity,
delivered
just
because
there's
an
indicator
in
this
spreadsheet.
That
says
not
include
operational,
and
I
note
that
you
didn't
address
the
labyrinth
program,
not
include
operational.
I
assume
that
means
the
same
thing
correct
that
because
it
has
that
designator.
A
That
does
not.
That
does
not
indicate
that
the
program
or
the
item
I
should
say
as
described,
is
going
to
be
delivered
operationally.
Is
that
correct
right.
C
A
Okay
line
39
impacts
to
school,
that's
a
to
schools,
rather,
that's
not
include.
Did
you
have
a
reason
for
that.
A
Okay
ben
welcome
thank.
L
You,
mr
mayor,
so
we're
looking
at
this
is
potentially
it
could
be
determined
as
part
of
the
housing
element
sites
discussion.
I
think,
additionally,
the
impacts
to
schools
is
a
little
challenging
for
the
city
to
start
participating.
I
believe
there's
some
state
laws
that
that
prevents
the
city
from
considering
fiscal
impacts.
So
that's
why
we
indicate
this
as
something
that's,
not
included
for
for
right
now,.
A
Okay,
you
know
I'll
note
that
the
project
description
is
assessment
or
score
as
a
net
positive
or
net
negative
impact
to
services,
schools,
particularly
of
projects,
so
it
doesn't
really
look
like
it's
a
it's
a
fiscal
evaluation.
It's
really
more
of
a
kind
of
consideration
from
the
city's
perspective
as
to
what
the
net
impact
would
be
of
a
particular
project.
So,
okay,
well
I'm
going
to
go
on
at
this
point
to
the
next,
not
include
that's
the
visitor
center
line,
46.
C
This
one
is,
we
think,
with
our
ongoing
cupertino
store
item.
We
think
that
finishing
that
item
would
be
prudent
and
then
we
can
work
on
the
visitors
center.
But
again
this
these
are
just
our
recommendations
and
if
the
council
wants
to
prioritize
this
against
other
items,
then
that's
something
that
we
would
definitely
be
looking
at.
A
Well
understood
just
trying
to
get
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
the
recommendations
here,
so
we're
on
item
50.
Now
the
privately
owned,
ev
chargers,
the
description
is:
explore:
options
for
private
businesses
to
open
up
privately
owned
electrical
electric
vehicle
chargers
to
the
public
when
not
in
use
by
employees.
This
does
not
include
operational,
so
does
that
also
apply?
If
it's
not
include
operational
here,
that
doesn't
mean
it's
going
to
get
done
operationally.
Is
that
correct.
C
A
A
Right:
okay:
under
51,
I
see
it
not
include
operational.
Let
me
just
go
on
not
to
belabor
the
point
that
it
may,
you
know,
be
a
whole
range
and
refer
to
the
other
notes,
52
the
festival
that
is
run
by
the
fine
arts
commission.
The
staff
recommendation
is
not
include.
What's
the
reason
for
that.
C
It
says
that
fine
arts
commission
previously
worked
on
worked
with
the
current
festivals,
the
house
space
for
fine
arts.
C
A
Okay
and
I'll
note
that
the
last
three
items
are
also
not
includes
those
are
the
regional
transformative,
transit
projects,
initiative,
solar
generation,
maximization
and
young
artist
scholarships
they
all
received
a
some
total
of
one
point
and
they're
respectively,
not
include
operational,
not
included,
not
include
operational
with
yeah.
You
know,
I
think
your
reference
is
essentially
going
to
be
to
those
different
columns
of
the
spreadsheet
as
well
in
terms
of
staff's.
A
You
know
reasons
for
for
the
recommendation
that
they
have
so
let
me
go
to
councilmember
way
and
and
before
I
do
that
you
know,
let
me
let
me
just
say
that
that
that
actually
comprises
the
entirety
out
of
this
list
of
the
items
that
staff
was
recommending
not
to
include-
and
so
it's
relatively
fast
to
go
through
that
through
this
list
in
terms
of
the
consolidation
of
items
you
know,
I
will
note
that
lawrence
smitty
park
was
something
that
was
fairly
highly
rated.
A
The
proposal
to
add
a
to
add
a
dedicated
staff
member
to
be
the
project
manager
for
the
park.
You
know
that's
a
five
by
me.
I
I
have
since
seen
that
staff
is,
you
know,
making
some
pretty
significant
movement
on
that,
and
so
I'm
inclined
to
move.
You
know
my
five
to
the
other
part
of
lawrence
smitty
part
that
I
think
would
actually
bump
that
up
to
a
consolidated.
You
know.
F
A
Sum
rating,
but
let's
let's
let's
move
on
here-
I
I
think
we're
making
some
decent
project
progress
overall
and
hopefully
we'll
converge
to
a
workable
point.
Councilmember
way,
actually
jim
your
hand
is
raised,
did
you
want
to
speak?
I.
A
No
worries:
okay,
great
councilmember
way.
I
Okay,
so
I'm
I'm
so
glad
mayor,
paul
sort
of
cleared
a
lot
of
things,
because
I
I
do
believe
when
staff
list
very
clearly
some
of
them
they're,
not
opera,
they're
not
are
not
operational
but
not
includes,
is
because
of
a
lot
of
staff
constraint
right.
So
the
the
thing
I
want
to
clarify
is
I
I
do
have
an
issue
adding
things
tonight,
because
if
we
add
things
tonight
that
means
the
public
hasn't
seen
it.
We
haven't
seen
it.
I
The
staff
hasn't
rated,
whether
it's
large
median
or
small,
so
it
means
that
we
can't
rate
them
or
we
can.
We
have
to
open
up
to
public
comment
next
time.
So
I
think
adding
things
tonight
is
an
issue
I
don't
know.
If
attorney
chris
can
comment
on
that.
The
second
is,
I
really
don't
want
to
get
into
details,
for
example,
really.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
details
a
vice
mayor
made
but,
for
example,
the
dollar
to
be
mana,
vista
of
lina
vista
and
memorial
park.
I
I
mean
we
might
have
arguments
from
you
know
whether
white.
Why
don't
we
do
the
other
two
first
or
it's
six
months?
Why
don't?
We
do
a
year,
so
I
really
think
we
need
to
prioritize
things
and
go
into
the
details
of
how
to
operate
it.
So
tonight
really
is
to
prioritize
and
the
staff
recommendation
is
not
it's
just
their
recommendation.
We
can
always
say:
oh,
we
want
to
put
this
on
the
work
plan.
We
think
it's
important,
so
the
rating
from
us
is
really
important.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
details.
I
I
don't
think
we
should
work
on
it
today
tonight
and
we
really
need
to
consider
staff
time
if
staff
recommends
everything
we're
still
going
to
rate
it
staff
choose
not
to
recommend
something
is
because
they
don't
have
staff
time
or
it's
already
being
done,
or
they
can
do
it,
for
example,
the
the
what's
that
the
anyway
some
of
the
things
already
being
done
and
there's
so
even
without
us,
knowing
it
and
then
so
I
I
think
we
really
need
to
get
onto
ratings
right
now.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
paul,
so
I'd
like
to
see
the
the
items
removed.
If
out
of
that
not
include
list,
if
that's
possible,
if
we
can
come
to
some
agreement
to
crop
them
off
and
have
an
adjusted
list,
I
do
know.
Last
last
year
items
were
added.
You
know
it
kind
of
at
the
last
minute
and
ended
up
there.
So
I
I
don't
personally
have
a
problem
with
seeing
something
new
placed
on
the
list.
B
So
I
would
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
if
we
can
get
to
some
consensus
on
what
the
list
is
and
then
we
have
some
time
to
rank
what's
remaining
and
please
combine
the
the
lawrence
midi
items
which
were
identified
as
having
some
duplication
by
council
member
willie.
B
Put
together
so
we're
not
looking
at
the
same
item
and
then
we
throw
points
at
different
things
which
are
really
should
be
just
one,
and
I
am
there
was
one
item
with
regards
to
the
license
plate
readers
and
that
was,
it
was
listed
as
being
an
extra
large
project
which
is
kind
of
a
different.
It's,
like
you
know,
bigger
than
everything
else,
so
I
I'm
wondering
shouldn't
we
get.
B
If,
if
we
were
to
look
at
this
shouldn't,
we
get
some
before
we
rank
it
and
and
agree
with
it
shouldn't
we
get
some
information
from
captain
urina
about
this,
about
the
need,
rather
than
it
just
feels
like
we're,
jumping
into
something
without
having
guidance,
and
so
I'm
a
little
I'm
personally
hesitant
about
it.
I
want
to
know:
what's
you
know?
What
are
the
statistics
about
this?
Is
this
a
good
idea?
B
I
don't
know
and
how
many,
how
much?
What
are
we
getting
ourselves
into
so
for
for
this
one
I'm
well.
I
would
personally
like
some
more
information,
just
even
to
understand
how
to
rank
it,
but
so,
like
I
said,
I'd
like
to
have
this
list
cold
and
trimmed
up,
and
then
we
go
and
and
rank
and
come
back
at
the
next
meeting
with
it.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councilmember
moore
and
let's
go
on
before
we
go
to
councilman
willie
katie.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
the
last
comments.
C
Yeah
just
really
quickly
in
terms
of
the
duplicated
items,
the
reason
that
they
were,
if
the
if
they
were
truly
kind
of
duplicative
or
something
that
was
very,
very
close,
we
did
our
best
to
combine
them
in
these
instances.
What's
being
proposed,
is
significantly
different
than
what
the
original
item
was,
and
so
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
council
can
decide
which
one
they
want
to
move
forward
with,
and
so
that's
why
they're
separated
and
then
for
the
resident,
engagement
and
engagement
plan.
C
For
example,
those
are
two
distinct
items:
one's
developing
the
plan,
one
is
increasing
the
engagement
via
and
it
has
some
good
strategies
in
there,
and
so
they
are
technically
different
items.
We
can
combine
them
but
like,
for
example,
homeless,
jobs
is
one
singular
program
versus
support
for
the
unhoused
has
a
much
larger
scope
that
we
want
to
understand
more,
but
just
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
That's
why
they're
not
currently
combined,
and
we
would
love
some
feedback
or
direction,
counsel
on
how
to
move
forward
with
those.
A
Great
all
right,
thanks
katie,
let's
go
on
to
council
member
willie.
H
Great,
thank
you
so
I'll
start
with
the
the
last
one
there.
So
the
support
for
unhoused
residents,
I'm
I'm
fully
fine
with
it
being
different,
but
on
the
copy
that
I
have
it,
has
the
jobs
program
listed
on
it.
So
if
we
remove
that
from
it,
I'm
okay,
then
they're
distinctly
different.
H
H
The
other
that
I'll
mention
is,
I
would
like
one
added
tonight,
which
is
the
city
owned
properties
and
put
a
five
on
it.
So
when,
when
I
pushed
to
have
this
put
on
this
work
plan,
it
was
not
about
aesthetics,
it
was
about
staff,
responding
to
the
community's
concerns
and
the
community
sending
us
emails
about
cells
that
are
going
to
be
right
next
to
their
bedroom.
H
Things
of
that
nature.
When
we
talked
about
this
to
the
best
of
my
know,
my
memory,
I
even
showed
a
concern
sheet
that
I
created
that
said
what
resident
what
location,
and
then
it
had
a
box
for
a
picture
for
a
google
map
picture
to
show
where
that
would
be
relative
to
their
house,
and
then
it
had
a
statement.
What
other
possible
locations
can
be
looked
at
two
case
in
points.
One
resident
over
at
three
oaks
park
was
going
to
get
a
cell
in
front
of
his
house
contacted
us.
H
H
That
was
the
intent
of
this
one,
making
sure
that
the
city
has
a
process
to
to
look
at
the
concerns
by
the
residents
see
what
other
options
there
are
record
it
and
give
it
a
number
so
that
the
resident
or
his
neighbors
can
call
up
city
staff
and
get
an
update
a
month
two
months
down
the
road.
What
happened?
What
were
other
ones
that
were
looked
at
as
opposed
to
what
we
don't
know?
It
needs
to
be
logged
in
and
given
a
number
and
do
a
little
bit
of
research.
It
was
not
about
aesthetics.
H
H
I
don't
know
how
far
we
expand
this,
but
addressing
the
community
concerns,
so
so
that
one
plus
adding
the
property
one,
and
I
would
be
good
for
you-
know
bringing
it
back
to
us
then
with
re-ranking,
but
I
do
think
this
has
moved
pretty
far
down
the
the
field
so
far.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
katie.
Thank
you,
jim
okay,.
A
Well,
thank
you,
john,
and
just
to
get
a
kind
of
a
straw
poll
of
your
opinion
on
it.
So
the
so
the
not
not
includes
are
you
in
general
agreement
with
the
staff
recommendations
there.
H
Ranked,
like
I
say,
I'd
like
to
see
us
stay
at
about
the
30
level,
I
would
be
hesitant
to
remove
anything
that
is
within
the
first
30.
I
was.
I
was
very
happy
to
see
that
this
council
of
five
put
their
high
priority
items
and
those
are
in
the
top
30..
All
of
our
fives
are
in
the
top
30..
H
H
What
it
would
take
to
do
something
similar
in
our
community
not
do
it,
and
then
we
kind
of
to
tell
them
based
on
how
much
money
and
how
much
time
it
could
go
then,
and
it
may
not
be
until
the
next
year's
work
plan,
but
no
we're
not
trying
to
build
a
an
aircraft
carrier
over
the
course
of
this
next
12
months.
No.
A
C
I
can
just
speak
to.
I
just
want
to
clarify
5g,
so
councilmember
willie,
your
item
for
5g
for
the
current
fiscal
year
is
underway.
It's
happening,
the
5g
ordinance
and
and
the
reporting
that
you're
talking
about
has
already
been
worked
on
it's
going
to
come
to
council
soon.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
C
That's
not
on
this
list,
because
that
item
is
going
to
be
done
this
fiscal
year
so
item
that's
on
this
list
is
was
proposed
by
the
planning
commission
and
the
objective
is
what
they
proposed,
because
they
wanted
to
talk
about
aesthetics.
I
think.
D
Sorry,
I
thought
I
hadn't
done
that
no,
I
was
gonna
one.
What
katie
just
said,
the
other
one
too
about
the
a
budget
process
where
I
have
in
is
one
of
the
community
sort
of
a
community
item
of
the
proper
name
community
outreach
person-
that's
in
my
head
at
the
moment
for
doing
different
types
of
outreach,
such
as
with
the
5g,
the
other
one
too,
just
throwing
it
out
there
from
you
know.
D
Councilmember
williams
said
the
one
item
about
you
know
making
sure
that
we
have
at
least
the
30,
but
you
know
maybe
having
a
motion
just
to
remove
the
not
includes
unless
council
wants
to
keep
certain
ones
and
pick
pick
the
ones
that
are
somewhat
duplicative
and
are
they
ones
we
want
to
keep
or
combine,
and
then,
if
you
did
have
any
additional
ones
to
add
at
this
time,
and
then
we
can
compile
it
back
into
a
new
list
and
have
everyone
you
know
we
can
once
we
get
that
compiled,
finalized
or
finalized,
we
can
compile
it
and
then
send
it
out
for
the
rank
just
trying
to
help
move
that
along.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you,
jim
and
let
me
go
to
I
I
see
hands
raised
by
vice
mayor
ciao
as
well
as
councilmember
moore.
You
know
before
we
go
back
to
vice
mayor
ciao.
Let
me
let
me
make
a
couple
of
follow-ups
here.
I
have
a
couple
of
items
that
I
want
to
make
comment
or
clarification
on
item
number
six.
We
have
the
cupertino
store
implementation.
A
I
was
the
one
who
added
a
council
member
proposal,
and
I
you
know,
while
I
do
appreciate
the
attempt
to
consolidate
this,
the
original
objective
did
specify
that
cupertino's
store
being
at
the
chamber
of
commerce,
but
when
we
had
this
on
our
work
plan
last
year,
all
right-
and
so
my
my
pro
my
my
added
proposal
here-
was
to
kind
of
remind
us
really
of
what
we
had
asked
staff
to
put
on
our
work
plan,
and
it
was
to
explore
various
options
for
where
we
would
put
this
and
somehow
it
seems
to
have
morphed
into
a
description
where
we
would
definitively
place
it
at
the
chamber
of
commerce.
A
You
know
I'll
note
that
we're
still
in
the
middle
of
our
fiscal
year,
we
still
have
a
full
quarter
left
or
almost
a
full
quarter,
and
you
know
my
proposal
that
you
see
on
the
latter
part
of
of
this
item
here,
I
think
it's
item
six
is
is
just
to
remind
us
that
we
were
actually
supposed
to
be
exploring
at
this
point
various
locations
this
could
be,
and
so
I
just
you
know,
I
just
suggested
quinlan
center
library,
city
hall,
as
potential
alternate
locations,
and
so
you
know
to
the
extent
that
we're
still
in
the
midst
of
our
fiscal
year.
A
You
know
I
would
say,
that's
my
first
comment
that
we
should
be
following
up
on:
what's
articulated
in
the
current
work
program
or
should
be,
and
then
the
other
thing
is
that
this
seems
to
be
a
bit
if
not
in
direct
conflict.
It's
not
really
that
consistent,
though,
with
what
the
revised
objective
description
is,
which
does
identify
the
the
chamber
of
commerce.
A
I
don't
know
how
we
ended
up
winning
on
this
one
particular
location,
but
I
would
like
to
ask
you
know
to
the
extent
that
we
have
these
kind
of
conflicting
consolidated.
A
You
know
directions
which
one
are
we
choosing
if
we
end
up
putting
our
votes
here,
because
you
know
I'll
notice,
I'll
note
that
you
know
for
this.
This
is
a
consolidated,
12
points
which
I
guess
you
know,
took
my
five
points
and
added
it
to
other
seven.
But
I
I
note
that
we
didn't
take
my
five
points
for
lawrence
middie,
which
is
clearly
in
support
of
the
project
and
and
added
to
you
know,
item
number.
F
C
A
C
Right,
I
can
speak
to
that
so
for
the
cupertino
store
in
reviewing
your
item.
It
was
kind
of
exactly
as
you
described.
It's
essentially
sounded
like
a
reminder
on
what
we're
currently
doing
in
this
fiscal
year.
We're
just
referencing
the
item
as
adopted
was
called
cupertino
store
at
chamber
of
commerce.
That's
what
it
is
in
our
current
work
program
so
that
we're
just
using
that
as
a
reference.
It's
not
saying
it's
going
to
be
at
the
store.
We
are.
We
do
plan
to
provide
you
more
than
just
the
chamber
as
an
option.
C
So
that's,
hopefully,
there's
no
conflict
there,
but
in
terms
of
we
tried
to
combine
it
in
the
revised
objective,
and
I
do
think
we
tried
to
capture
all
aspects
from
everyone's.
The
reason
why
this
one
was
easily
combined
was
while
there
was
additional
like
wording.
The
intent
was
the
same.
There
were
no
real
differences.
We
were
already
looking
at
other
other
locations.
The
fact
that
there
were
some
specific
locations
suggested
was
helpful,
but
it
it
didn't
really
change
what
we
were
already
doing
with
this
item.
C
So
that's
why
they
were
combined,
because
then
we
tried
to
actually.
This
is
why
the
number
in
the
staff
report
went
from
57
and
then
this
list
is
actually
56
items,
because
we
thought
we
would
keep
all
of
the
council
member
proposals
separate.
But
when
we
tried
to
fill
in
the
information
for
it,
we
realized
it
was
really
the
same
information
and
so
we're
like
it.
Really.
C
They
should
be
combined
versus
some
of
the
other
ones
like
such
as
lawrence
mini
the
idea
of
adding
the
project
manager,
adding
additional
sessions
with
council
to
review
timeline.
That
would
actually
change
some
of
the
aspects
of
the
project
and
potentially
make
it
more
expensive,
other
things,
and
so
they
were
not
identical
so
that
that's
the
reasoning
there.
A
Okay
and
then
for
line
31,
you
had
mentioned
wanting
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
this
support
for
the
unhoused
item,
which
which
was
proposed
by
me.
I,
I
guess
this
is
an
opportunity
to
provide
that
clarity.
So
what
kind
of
clarity
is
it
that
that
you
wanted
to
receive?
I
I
thought
that
it
was
a
fairly.
A
You
know
extensive
description.
You
know,
essentially
I'm
saying
if
we
have
these
various
items
related
to
the
unhoused
and
you
know
county
measure,
a
dollars
are
basically
supposed
to
be
for
trying
to
provide
that
type
of
housing.
You
know
why
not
put
that
into
what
is
effectively
a
consolidated
approach.
A
You
know,
instead
of
you
know,
homeless
jobs
program,
in
addition
to
you
know
something
that
you
know
kind
of
partners
with
the
county
to
identify
a
five-year
plan.
That
sort
of
I
guess
kind
of
piggybacks.
Off.
Of
that
I
mean
why
not
look
at
what
we
can
be
doing
internally
right
I
mean
if
there
are
opportunity
sites-
or
at
least
you
know,
one
or
possibly,
two
available
for
housing
for
the
unhoused
or
transitional
housing.
A
A
And
I
I
will
note
that,
there's
no
recommendation,
there's
no
recommendation
to
include
or
not
include
so
I
mean,
if
that's
the
case,
then
what's
the
clarity
that's
needed
as
it
sits.
It
has
five
points.
It
has
my
five
points
because
I
think
it's
a
you
know
worthy
thing
to
you
know
try
to
to
support,
but
so
what
else
needs
to
be
done
in
order
to
evaluate
this.
A
Ben
director
of
community
development,
you
know
food,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Do
you
want
to
speak
this.
L
Yeah,
mr
mayor,
if
I
may,
I
think
your
points
are
well
taken.
I
think
in
looking
initial
evaluation
of
this
item.
The
the
initial
reaction
is
that
the
city
plan
and
homelessness
is
already
an
item.
That's
that's
progressing
and
then
sort
of
piggybacking
on
on
the
county's
plan
that
the
council
approved
the
homeless
job
jobs
program
finalized
as
his
past
or
current
fiscal
year.
L
So
you
know
these
are
kind
of
parallel
projects
already
sort
of
in
the
works,
so
the
clarification
on
that
is
not
not
really
clear
how
we
can
merge
them
into
one
particular
specific
plan
again,
because
there
are
already
parallel
projects
are
going
towards
the
finish
line
already.
L
I
think
your
your
objectives
are
very,
very
detailed
and
is
great
directive.
I
think
that's
sort
of
what
we're
sitting
on
right
now
is
those
those
items
already
in
the
works.
A
Well,
you
know
I'll
tell
you
how
I
think
about
this.
You
know
I
I
think
about
this
from
the
perspective
of
what
gets
us
closer
to
getting
supportive
services
faster.
That
are,
you
know,
that's
done
in
a
way.
That's
you
know
thoughtful
and
makes
people
come
to
the
table
and
really
think
about
these
particular
issues.
You
know,
and
as
described
in
these,
you
know
couple
of
different
items.
I
I
don't
really
see
a
whole
lot
happening.
A
You
know
in
the
next
you
know
few
years
other
than
having
perhaps
a
you
know
a
paper
or
two,
but
I
do
know
that
we
have.
You
know
some
measure.
A
funds
are
dwindling.
You
know,
I
know
we
have
sites,
you
know,
so
I
I
mean
maybe
it's
too
much
of
a
lay
person's
perspective,
but
as
a
lay
person
I
have
been
around
the
city
for
a
while,
and
so
I
think
I
have
a
sort
of
a
sense
of
how
some
of
these
things
get
done
and
what
could
help
facilitate
it.
A
So
I
I'm
not
really
sure
where
this
lives,
you
know,
there's
there's
not
a
recommendation
to
include
or
not
include
so
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
really
how
to
take
guidance
in
that
regard,
and
perhaps
there
is
no
staff
guidance
on
this.
My
final
question
before
I
go
to
council
member:
vice
versa.
A
Item
number
54
regional
transformative,
transit
projects
initiative.
I
see
it
as
a
non-included
operational.
It
did
get
one
point
you
know.
Perhaps
let
me
let
me
ask
you
know
who
who
assigned
at
that
point
was.
That
was
that
was
that
perhaps
my
point
that
I
assigned
or
can
can
someone.
You
know
clarify
that.
F
A
Oh
councilmember,
william,
okay,
so
councilman
willie
did
you
did
you
want
to
reassign
that
that
point
as
well
or
was
there
a
reason
that
you
have
that
kind
of
included
in
your?
You
know
your
13
one
point
items.
H
Yeah
13
one.
You
know,
though,
the
one
points
are,
you
know
kind
of
the
lowest
of
our
priority
other
than
zero.
I
would
be
in
favor
of
moving
it
to
something
that
gets
broader
support
from
the
other
council.
A
Right,
okay,
okay,
great,
let's
go
to
vice
market,
show
vice
mayor.
You
know,
I
realized
you
had
four
other
items
that
you
wanted
to
provide.
Some
you
know
specific
detail
on
kind
of
what
I'm
running
up
against.
Is
council
member
way's
comment
on
this,
where,
where
she
expresses
the
the
desire
to
sit
down
with
what
you're
saying
and
kind
of
absorb
it,
you
know
a
little
bit
better
and
I
think
you
know
that's
that's
a
reasonable
point.
Well
taken.
A
That
kind
of
is
consistent
with
the
other
express
sentiments
that
you
know.
If
you
have
a
new
item
you
know,
perhaps
we
should
be
a
little
bit
more
leery
about
adding
items
at
this
point.
So
so
I
I'll
just
tell
you,
what's
you
know
kind
of
you
know,
processing
through
my
mind,
right
now
is
as
to
how
to
deliver
what
you're
describing
as
some
of
these
you
know
pretty
specific
and
extensive
changes
in
some
instances
to
to
our
process
here.
A
So
I
mean
it
does
look
like
we
have
a
list,
I
mean
we
could
be
consolidating,
we
could
be
taking
some
stuff
off,
but
in
terms
of
you
know,
adding
at
this
point
or
editing
you
know
based
upon
emotion,
you
know,
I
wonder
I
wonder
whether
it
might
make
more
sense
to
you
know:
try
to
tr
try
to
figure
out
a
better
way
to
incorporate
that
or
or
just
mix
it
all.
A
Together
I
mean,
maybe
maybe
we
go
to
the
pleasure
of
the
council
at
this
point
I
mean
you
know
I
I
will
say
that
you
know
I
I'd
be
willing
to
sit
down
and
get
a
better
sense
of
the
specifics
of
what
you're
you
know
trying
to
propose,
and
I
I
do
think
that
kind
of
prioritizing
before
we
know
those
specifics.
You
know
you
know,
is
a
bit
problematic
as
well
right
because
you're
you're
proposing
that
we
change
some
of
these.
You
know
top
level
descriptions
right
so.
E
Knowledge
yeah,
I
mean
I
provided
a
lot
of
comments
in
my
submission,
but
they
were
not
integrated.
That's
why
I
think
staff
is
one
person
right.
How
would
they
know
that
they
should
do
that?
That
doesn't
make
sense.
Therefore,
today
is
the
only
chance.
I
think
that
I
could
say.
Okay,
this
item
description
needs
to
add
a
little
to
be
more
clear.
E
The
reason
is
also
from
the
past
three
years
when
we
are
not
clear,
things
doesn't
go
the
way
we
intended
to
and
the
staff
when
they
write
the
description.
They
don't
a
lot
of
times.
The
misunderstanding
is
not
intentional,
but
the
misunderstanding
is
still
there.
So
I'm
trying
to
correct
that,
so
it
won't
go
to
come
the
end
of
the
year
and
then
find
out.
Oh
how
come
it
didn't
go,
get
implemented
the
way
we
had
the
intention
and,
for
example,
the
dollar,
okay.
E
E
I
think
that's
a
misinterpretation
of
the
council
direction
the
con
because
they
are
telling
the
dollar
people
the
council
said
not
to
start
any
trial
in
after
all,
these
data
is
collected
until
the
next
october.
We
never
said
that
I
think
that's
a
misinterpretation
of
console
direction,
not
intentional,
but
it's
a
misinterpretation.
A
Right
well,
but
again
I
mean
there
was
that
opportunity
to
go
ahead
and
provide
a
project
title
and
a
project
description
right
and
to
assign
points
to
it.
You
know
prior
to
this
and
I'm
not
sure
what
you
mean
by
you
know.
You
provide
comments,
because
if
we
went
ahead
and
added
lines
to
the
you
know
to
the
table,
then
that
opportunity
would
have
been
there
to
put
that
description.
A
A
F
A
A
E
A
Okay,
well,
it's.
E
A
Can
you
get
through
your
additional
items
in
say
six
minutes?
Can
you
do
that
for
your
other
four
items,
just
I'm
trying
to
be
cognizant
of
of
time
here.
E
F
C
Think
we
were
struggling
in
terms
of
whether
to
recommend
or
not
recommend
really
it's
a
policy
decision
and
a
staffing
thing.
So
we
just
need
to
know
what
to
do
and
then
get
the
appropriate
staffing
levels
and
training
and
implementation
and
policies
in
place.
E
Okay,
so
so
that
right
now
doesn't
have
a
label
just
so
you
know
and
then
homeless
jobs
program,
and
I
think
it's
ranked
number
eight.
The
reason
for
not
including
is
odd
it's
that
additional
resources
are
needed
if
we
extend
isn't
that
what
the
priority
setting
is
for.
If
the
city
council
wants
that
priority,
they
will
allocate
additional
resource
and
work
with
the
partner
or
is
it
because
the
current
provider
doesn't
want
to
continue
the
program
anymore?
L
Yep
vice
mayor
and
through
the
mayor,
if
I
may
respond
so
we're
indicating
that
as
as
not
not
to
include
because
there's
additional
funding
and
resources-
and
this
council
needs
to
consider,
so
it's
not
really
that
us
making
that
decision
to
include
not
include,
but
you
know,
council
decides
that's
item
that
you
want
to
continue
for
this
fiscal
year.
E
C
That,
if
I
might
so
this
again,
the
that
column
is
the
staff
recommendation
to
include
or
not
include,
we,
we
provided
kind
of
the
reasoning
and
it's
really
up
to
count,
but
it's
still
in
the
list
right,
because
it's
always
council's
prerogative
to
rate
it
and
say
we
want
it
included
anyway.
So
we,
you
know
we
did
our
best,
where
we
could
to
make
a
recommendation
in
some
of
these.
We,
it
was
really
like.
I
could
see
it
going
both
ways
so
yeah.
I
think
in
this
sense.
E
That's
fine,
so
yeah.
Actually
I
wrote
here
then
katie.
I
keep
forgetting.
This
is
really
really
a
lot
of
work.
I
actually
like
the
process.
I
yeah.
There
is
some
confusion,
but
then
I
think
we
are
improving.
It
gets
better,
so
there
is
chance
for
us
to
provide
more
input.
So
thank
you
for
putting
all
the
work
pulling
all
the
data
together.
It's
really
a
lot
of
work
really
appreciate
that
and
so
homeless
jobs
program.
I
would
hope
that
we
include
a
partner
with
county
for
a
sustainable
program.
Besides
a
city
stand
alone
program.
E
So
if
it's
west
event,
we
first
work
with
west
west
valley
fight,
but
eventually
I
think
we
want
to
partner
with
the
county.
Then
I
think
cupertino
store.
I
remember
last
year
when
we
had
the
discussion.
I
we
were
also
thinking
of
torrey
avenue,
because
that
was
just
purchased
and
there
is
a
possibility
there
and
that's
not
included
there
right
now
for
items
to
remove
not
only
the
not
included.
I
think
there
were
two
items
jones
said
that
he
was
the
only
person
who
has
point
and
he
wants
those
removed.
E
I
forgot
which
two
so
those
probably
should
be
removed,
and
this
is
another
comment
on
lawrence
and
lawson
school
bikeway.
There
is
only
one
ranking
of
three
from
one
member.
The
justification
is
also
that
doesn't
make
sense.
The
justification
basically
applies
to
all
bike
projects
and
all
walk
audit
project,
and
my
comments
last
time
is
also
I
put
in
my
spreadsheet-
is
that
we
should
have
all
the
unfinished
walk.
Audit
items
have
bike
and
pet
commission
rank
them
and
then
decide
which
one
we
should
proceed.
E
It
shouldn't
be
one
of
someone
pushing
this,
someone
pushing
that
so
that
justification
especially
didn't
really
justify
this
one
particular
project.
So
if
the
council,
member
who
rented
three
is
okay
with
that,
I
think
we
should
remove
this
item
also,
then,
let
me
try
and
finish
my
comments,
so
I
am
proposing
I'll
first
go
to
the
new
item.
First.
A
No,
no
vice
merch.
No,
let
me
let
me
go
back
to
the
other
council
members
because
he
made
really
extensive
comments
here
and
then
you
know
I
did
ask
you
to
limit
it
to
a
particular
amount
of
time.
So
let
me
go
to
councilman
willie,
okay,
we'll
go
to
calcium
our
way,
and
then
you
know
and
then
and
then
we'll
circle
back.
Customer
willie.
H
Yeah
so
katie,
you
are
correct
in
the
description
of
the
current
5g
work
plan.
That's
currently
item
number
3
on
the
existing
one.
It
says
revisit
5g,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
recording,
responding
to
complaints,
transparency
on
existing
applications
and
says
that
it
hopes
to
be
done
by
september
of
this
year.
H
Now
we've
had
updates
to
my
memory.
I
haven't
had
updates
that
have
given
me
input
that
this
is
on
on
schedule
on
track,
and
so
the
importance
of
having
5g
in
the
current
2223
year
is
to
make
sure
that
we
do
in
fact
take
care
of
our
community
with
respect
projects.
Don't
always
go
as
planned,
sometimes
they'll
end
early.
H
If,
if
we
had
gotten
periodic
updates,
that
said,
hey
we're
we're
on
schedule,
this
is
happening.
It's
going
to
be
done,
then
I
wouldn't
have
felt
a
need
to
to
put
a
focus
on
it.
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that
that
if
you
talk
to
staff
and
find
out
where
do
they,
where
do
they
feel
they
are,
and
do
they
really
feel
confident
that
their
current
resources,
the
current
dollars,
are
in
fact
going
to
bring
it
to
closure.
H
So
with
that,
I
think
I'm
good
for
tonight,
and
if
we
get
an
updated
list
I'll
double
check.
My
rankings
hopefully
move
the
two
that
I
took
threes
away
from
to
cupertino
properties
and
the
other
three
would
go
to
the
mayor's
one
for
homeless
services,
so
that
I'd
have
three
points
adding
to
his
five
for
homeless
services.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
councilman
jim,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
speak
or
oh.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
can
say
for
council
member
willie
that
our
city
attorney
chris
and
our
assistant
public
works
director.
Chad
have
been
working
on
that.
I
believe
chad
has
the
draft.
K
Yeah,
it's
in
my
it's
in
my
court
right
now
bless
matt
morley
for
coming
in
and
taking
a
bunch
of
work
off
my
plates.
This
is
one
of
my
priorities
and
I'm
hoping
I
can
have
the
ordinance
ready
for
council
consideration
come
may
potentially
june,
but
I'm
hoping
to
have
it
done
this
fiscal
year.
A
Yeah,
I
you
know-
and
let
me
just
make
a
quick
comment
here
if
this
is
projected
to
end
in
september
2023.
It
probably
should
have
made
its
way
into
this
current
list,
because
that
is
going
into
the
next
fiscal
year.
G
C
That's
what's
true,
I
understand.
G
A
Okay,
so
let's
let's
go
on
to
councilmember
way
and
then
kill
someone
more.
I
Thank
you,
mayor,
paul.
I'm
going
to
be
really
brief
for
why
that
was
a
little
uncomfortable
with
you
know,
I'm
glad
we
asked
the
staff
why
they
included
not
included
and
some
of
them
they
don't
make
recommendations.
I
I
think
the
staff
really
tried
to
make
it
very
clear
why
they
do
that
and
then
it
really
is
up
to
the
council.
The
council
really
wants
to
do
it.
Even
the
staff
says
not
include.
We
can
also
include
it.
I
So
I
I
feel
that
our
staff
is
really
working
in
humans
job
and
then
try
to
make
recommendations,
but
some
of
them
they
don't
make
it
for
why.
I
thought
we
were
saying.
If
you
don't
make
a
recommendation,
why
don't
you
make
recommendations
if
you
make
recommendations?
Why
do
you
do
with
this,
but
I
I
get
it
we
want
to
make
it
clear.
So
I
really
think
we
should
yes
like
council,
member
willie
and
everybody
agree.
I
Let's
eat
and
I
think
council
member
moore
says:
let's
eliminate,
eliminate
some
and
then
really
work
on
our
priorities.
The
details
can
really
come
and
then
we
can
work
on
it
and
I
I
still
think
if
we
add
something
now,
it's
it
has
to
go
through
a
public
process.
I
mean
the
public,
doesn't
know
we
don't
know.
So
we
do
have
a
lot
of
work
plans
and
I
we
need
to
narrow
it
down
and
be
really
rational
about
it,
and
we
can.
It
doesn't
mean
that
it
doesn't
make
this
year's
project.
I
It's
not
going
to
come
back.
If
it's
always
in
the
back
of
a
mind,
it's
always
there
and
the
staff
has
the
you
know
the
list,
so
we
can
always
bring
it
back.
I
really
hope
that
we
can
accomplish
something
tonight.
B
Okay,
well,
it
sounds
like
I
don't
have
any
support
for
the
council
to
take
care
of
the
properties
that
we
own
and
come
up
with
some
sort
of
plan
for
it
that
that's
too
bad
that
that's
how
it
goes.
So
I
would
like
it
if
we
could
at
least
take
a
vote
on
the
the
property,
not
the
properties,
the
the
projects
that
had
the
not
include
ranking
and
remove
those
off
the
list.
B
If
we
all
agree
with
doing
that,
if
there's
some
that
you
want
to
hold
on
to,
please
go
ahead
and
do
that,
but
I
think
we
need
to
move
on,
make
that
make
that
decision
call
the
list
and
and
then
we
can
take
the
list
and
rank
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
B
So
that's
the
problem
we
have
with
this,
so
we
didn't
really
entirely
agree
to
a
process
here,
and
so
that's
why
you
ended
up
with
members
of
the
public
trying
to
add
items,
because
they
didn't
know
that
the
list
is
done.
You
can't
add
at
the
last
minute
and
and
that's
our
process.
I
didn't
know
that
that
was
not
enough
and
and
we're
a
group.
B
We
should
be
deciding
the
process
together
and
I
think
honestly,
before
we
stepped
into
the
process,
we
should
have
had
a
goal-setting
session
where
we
talked
about
how
we're
going
to
prioritize
and
go
through
this,
so
it's
not
after
10
o'clock
and
we're
trying
to
figure
it
out
so
kind
of
prior
planning
etc.
So
that
that's
why
I
say
it's
not
it's.
I
didn't
get
support.
Thank
you.
A
Yes,
let
me
respond
to
that.
I
mean
councilmember
moore,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
actually
did
hand
in
a
ranking
sheet
by
march
16th,
but
you
know,
I
think,
to
insinuate
that
you
didn't
receive
support
from
the
council
on
this
particular
item
and
then
now
to
say
that
it's
because
you
think
that
you're
not
allowed
to
add
anything
right
now.
I
just
I.
A
You
know
and
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
at
this
point
and
we
haven't
made
a
decision,
you
know.
No,
no
motion
has
been
put
on
the
table,
saying
that
you
can't
add
an
item.
You
know
I'll
note
that
our
our
members
of
the
public
did
ask
for
three
things
that
we
haven't
discussed.
Yet
our
members
of
the
public
have
asked
for
carmen
bridge
some
have
spoken
against
carmen
bridge.
A
One
has
asked
for
money
for
a
an
elderly
survey
and
one
has,
or
at
least
a
you
know
some
some
members
of
the
public
have
asked
with
regard
to
vacancy
tax.
You
know,
and
you
know
related
items,
and
so
you
know
we
haven't
made
a
definitive
decision
and
and
to
say
that
you
didn't
receive
support
when
it
seems
explicit
that
we
can't
add
things.
No
one
has
said
that
no
one
has
said
that
at
this
point,
so
I
mean
I
just
I
just
asked
for
a
cohesive.
A
You
know
and
and
engaged
you
know
process.
I
I
don't
know
what
we're
supposed
to
do
at
this
point.
If
we've
afforded
you
an
opportunity
to
add
something,
and
you
didn't
avail
yourself
of
it
and
now
you
know
you're,
basically
explicitly
saying
no
one's
supported
and
then
you're
backtracking,
saying,
oh
well,
that's
not
what
I
meant.
I
meant
that
I
can't
add
it
when
we
haven't
even
voted
on
whether
you
know
that
part
of
the
process
can
go
forward
now.
A
With
regard
to
your
comment
that
you
know,
this
is
something
that
you
know
we
should
have
met
about
and
agreed
to
a
process
at
the
very
beginning.
Well,
you
know,
I
will
note
that
we
have
a
full
quarter
left
in
our
fiscal
year.
You
know
this
is
something
that
we've,
you
know
run
into
a
couple
of
different
challenges
in
the
last
couple
of
fiscal
years
because
of
the
nature
of
you
know
what
we've
been
experiencing
collectively,
and
this
is
actually
a
fairly
new.
A
You
know
process
for
to
have
a
work
plan
at
all,
and
I
will
point
out
that
if
you
look
at
the
work
plan
items
from
our
previous
year,
a
lot
of
them
did
get
accomplished
and
we're
just
trying
to
you
know,
process
the
refinements
of
that
process,
and
you
know,
while
you
know,
I
think
your
point
you
know
with
regard
to
defining
something
is
well
taken.
I
I
do
ask
for
you
know
some
patients
with
regard
to
the
idea
that
you
know
we
are
trying
to
formulate
this
as
fairly
and
cohesively
as
we
can.
A
But
it's
not
something
that
has
been
automatically
set
in
stone
and
we
you
know
are,
are
trying
to
figure
out
what
would
work
you
know
going
forward,
because
this
is
a
fairly
you
know
new
process.
So
you
know
I
I
do
ask
that
you
engage
and
if
people
do
have
support
for
a
particular,
you
know
priority
that
you
not
express
you
know
chagrin
or
disappointment
that
it's
simply
not
there.
You
know
because.
A
That
there
are
opportunities
here
to
you,
know,
support
you
know
particular
priorities.
So
so
jim,
you
have
your
hand
raised,
and
you
had
asked
to
comment
just.
F
D
A
Right,
you
know,
and
to
that
point
you
know
when
we
talk
about,
I
I
mean
there
are
a
couple
of
differentiators
here
right
and
ultimately,
these
are.
These
are
really
fair
points
to
be
hashing
out
when,
when
we
have
this
delineation
between,
you
know
what
what
some
people
like
to
describe.
As
you
know,
policy
versus
operations.
Right,
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
a
codified,
you
know,
delineation,
I
mean
that's
something
that
you
know
kind
of
people
in
you
know
professional
service
organizations.
A
Try
to
you
know
kind
of
you
know
you
know
describe
as
a
way
of
you
know
helping
to
packetize.
You
know
the
the
work
on
the
roles
you
know,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is:
if
you're
really
looking
at
you
know
trying
to
get
these
things
done.
I
mean
it
does
help
us
to
you
know.
Try
to
you
know,
create
some
categories,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
it's
useful
to
call
it
a
cip
project
and
we're
in
good
faith
trying
to
work
with
each
other,
you
know.
A
I
don't
think
that
we
should,
you
know,
kind
of
create,
create
lockstep.
You
know
lock
and
key
definitive.
You
know
square
peg
round
hole,
you
know
kind
of
constructs
to
try
to
block
each
other
from
you
know.
You
know
accomplishing
things,
so
you
know
I
I
do
appreciate
it.
I
appreciate
that
jim
and
I
I
don't
think
that
we're
at
loggerheads
with
regard
to
you
know
trying
to
get
some
conversation
at
least
going
on
these
city-owned
properties.
That
are,
you
know,
just
kind
of
sitting.
A
There
frankly
tell
us
more
before
I
I
go
back
to
vice
mayor
child,
because
I
know
vice
versa.
Has
you
know
six
minutes
to
kind
of
present
her?
You
know
other
proposals
here.
Did
you
want
to
follow
up?
You
have
your
hand
raised.
B
I
would
have
really
liked
to
have
heard
at
that
time
that
it
was
going
to
come
back
as
a
cip
item
that
would
have
saved
me
some
irritation,
so
I
did
ask
about
process
at
the
start
of
the
evening
and
now
we're
talking
about
it
well
into
it.
So
I
I
think
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
The
timing
of
it
is
not
ideal
and
with
regards
to
it,
coming
back
on
the
c
as
a
cip
item,
how
does
that
then
work
into
the
rankings
that
we're
doing
tonight?
A
Well
so
so
you
know
jim
and
I
think,
for
the
benefit
of
clarity
here
you
know
we
have
a
few
properties,
you
know
and
they
essentially
join
the
the
blackberry
farm
corridor.
There's
a
one
along
st
there's,
a
couple
of
long
stephens
creek,
actually
the
stockholmer
property.
Next
to
the
orchard.
There's
the
there's,
the
blush
house.
I
believe
it's
called
next
to
next
to
the
the
the
blue,
pheasant
and
pro
shop
of
blackberry
farm
golf
course.
A
There's
the
burn
property
at
the
you
know
san
fernando
road
opening
entrance
to
blackberry
farm,
and
so
you
know
those
are
properties
that
each
of
the
council
members
have
visited
at
this
point
and
there
are
open
questions
as
to
you
know
what
to
do
with
those
properties
because
they're
not
being
utilized
at
this
point
and
so
council
member
moore's
concern,
is
you
know
with
these
properties?
You
know:
are
we
moving
these
forward
and
you
know
with
limited
bandwidth
in
cip
projects?
A
I
think
that
the
the
general
sense
I'm
hearing
from
our
city
manager
is
that
there
will
be
some
movement
forward
there
will
there
will
be
attention
paid,
or
at
least
there
is
that
intention
to
bring
that
forward
to
the
public
as
a
group
of
properties,
and
you
know
the
beginning
of
a
capital
capital
improvement
project
process,
so
so
jim.
If
I'm
capturing
that
accurately,
you
know
let
us
know,
but
you
know
outside
of
that,
you
know
I.
A
A
Has
lowered
at
this
point
and
I'm
assuming
that
there's
not
much
more
to
say
on
that
particular
item.
But.
D
You
know
what
you
what
you
said
was
correct:
it's
going
to
come
forward,
it
would
be
like
an
overview
kind
of
a
project.
It's
not
going
to
be
suggested
to
rebuild
the
homes
or
tear
it
down,
but
something
else
it'll
be
discussions
on.
You
know
what
their
current
condition
is.
What
would
need
to
be
done
or
not
done?
You
know
that
that
type
of
a
discussion
is
what
that
cip
would
be
proposing.
A
Right
understood
so
so,
just
so
you
know
we're
all
aware
if
we
put
it
on
the
work
program,
don't
expect
any
of
these
properties
to
be
going
down,
or
you
know
significant
capital
expenditures
or
projects
to
be
effectuated
in
this
upcoming.
You
know
fiscal
year,
so
it
sounds
like
it
would
be
part
of
a
process.
You
know
and-
and
I
will
say
that
you
know-
I
think
the
workf
the
work
program
process
also
motivates
a
lot
of
you
know,
discussion
and
movement.
You
know
for
for
various
items.
A
I
I
view
the
lawrence
mini
project
is
is
very
similar.
To
this
I
mean
I,
I
added
a
fairly
extensive
description
and
item
and
in
the
interim,
we've
got
a
fairly
extensive
update
on
on
what's
happening
there.
So
I
mean
you
know
it's
just
something
that
I
think
we
should
view
more
as
a
tool,
and
you
know
I
I
just
look.
A
I
I
I'll
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
Let's
go
to
okay,
so
councilmember
way,
your
your
comments
tend
to
be
pretty
succinct,
and
so
let
me
let
me
call
on
you
before
we
go
to
vice
mayor
ciao,
which
I
you
know.
I
know
she
has
a
few
suggestions
for
what
was
going
to
be
originally
her
motion.
I
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
just
want
to
bring
us
back
to
the
importance
of
what
do
we
value.
I
love
all
these
discussions.
You
know
all
all
the
projects
and
all
the
things
that
our
city
could
have
done,
but
we
have
to
bring
back
to
realistically
rationally.
What
can
we
do
next
year
and
what
are
our
priorities?
So
the
staff
can
work
on
it.
You
know
we
all
know
we
have
surplus
properties
and
we
all
toured
it
and
it's
a
huge
project
if
we
want
to
even
decide
to
work
on
one.
I
So
I
do
think
it
is
not
a
time
to
do
it
now
on
the
work
plan,
but
that's
just
my
point,
but
everybody
can
decide
to
say
yes,
we
can
add
it
on,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
mayor
paul
made
it
very
clear
la
from
march
16th
we
do
have,
we
could
add
up
to
five
items.
There
were
14,
I
have
to
say
I
added
none,
because
I
think
I
looked
at
my
50
something
items.
That's
enough
already,
so
we
did
get
a
chance
to
add
anything
we
want.
I
A
Yeah,
okay,
hey
councilman
roy
all
right
vice
mayor.
You
can.
E
A
Present
your
your
four
items
that
you
are
going
to
modify
a
bit
here:
okay,.
E
First,
I
think
the
process
question
I
am,
I
am
still
confused,
so
should
can
we
add
new
item
today
or
not
my
understanding
is.
We
are
not
adopting
the
final
work
program
today.
E
We
are
just
prioritizing
them.
Therefore,
my
understanding
then
is
we
can
add
them.
We
can
revise
them.
This
is
our
chance
to
do
so.
We
didn't
get
the
chance.
Last
time
we
were
told
not
to
say
anything
just
rank,
so
we
did
that
this
is
our
first
ever
chance
to
propose
an
item
that
on
and
also
so
anyway.
E
So
if
we
are
not
allowed
to
do
that,
then
that's
very
confusing
to
me
if
we
are
not
allowed
to
edit
anything,
that's
very
confusing
to
me,
but
I'll
just
say
my
piece
and
then
you
can
decide
what
to
do.
I
understand
these
are
all
new
items.
That's
proposed
by
a
lot
of
people
a
few
people
today,
but
these
are
things
that
has
been
talked
about
by
the
city
for
a
while.
It's
just,
I
think
they
should
have
brought
it
up
a
month
earlier.
E
So
I
kind
of
combined
them
as
a
home
ownership,
enhancement
initiative,
and
I
understand
there
are
a
lot
of
things.
So
maybe
we
could
have
a
study
session
first
on
the
home
ownership
enhancement
initiative,
and
hopefully
that
will
lead
to
something.
I
think
we
should
do
a
housing
stock
survey
so
that
we
understand
what
house
stocks
are
there,
how
many
are
actually
actually
how
many
ownership
of
homes
are
rented
or
owned
by
cooperation,
and
I
can
send
this
earlier
I'll
just
go
through
them
first
and
the
community
land
trust.
There
are
various
options.
E
I
think
that's
something
to
explore,
because
it's
a
way
to
have
home
ownership
for
homes
for
a
longer
time,
even
forever
and
home
ownership
assistance
program.
There
are
various
equity
home
down
payment
assistance
program
such
as
there
are
two
programs
by
housing,
trusting
home
silicon
valley,
and
then
there
is
land
data,
so
people
can
get
some
down
payment
assistance
and
the
organization
gets
part
of
the
equity.
E
E
Homeownership
enhancement
initiate,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
should
be
studies,
so
she
started
with
study
session,
but
I
hope
we
end
up
with
something
that's
more
concrete
and
as
for
the
other
items
that
okay,
so
for
the
anza
housing
program,
I
hope
that
we
add
back
the
house
share
program.
It
wasn't
in
our
work
program,
they
had
the
program,
but
they
paused
it
in
2020,
and
I
hope
that
they
can
restart
that
and
also
explore
vmware
housing.
E
Well,
I
think
I
said
that
anyway,
I
said
that
piece
and
I
think
integrated,
that
community
engagement
plan,
which
I
proposed
should
emerge
the
ways
number
27
resident
engagement.
This
is
a
big
project,
but
it
will
save
us
a
whole
lot
of
time
because
we
won't
be
redoing
reinventing
the
world
with
every
project,
for
example.
This
time
I
see
that
lawrence
meaty
has
a
really
good
plan,
but
housing
management
after
four
months
we
don't
have
a
plan.
E
E
I
added
something
to
clarify
some
questions
that
the
staff
had
in
their
question
mark
on.
I
think
I
added
some
incentive
that
this
kind
of
internship
program
actually
builds
the
pipeline
for
students
to
be
interested
in
civic
government
work,
and
that
is
what
we
really
need
for
work
for
working
in
public
agency.
I
think
this
should
be
open
for
college
and
high
school
students,
and
the
internships
program
could
be
summer
program,
but
it
could
be
year-round
also
because
a
lot
of
students
actually
has
a
lot
of
especially
high
school
students.
E
They
have
a
summer
camps,
they
are
busy
in
the
summer.
Year-Round
might
be
possible
and
I
think
college
interns
should
be
paid,
and
sometimes
they
have
it's
like
three
months.
It's
a
stipend,
so
it's
not
by
an
hour,
maybe
high
school,
also,
and
there
are
actually
funding
sources
for
this
program,
for
example,
cb,
civic
leadership,
usa.
They
provide
internship
funding
for
on
matching,
and
the
useful
work
program
is
what
I
proposed
and
thank
the
staff
for
recommending
to
include
that
I'd
like
to
add
some
incense
explanation.
F
A
Okay,
I
have
a
hand
raised
from
councilmember
moore.
B
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
paul,
I'm
wondering
if,
like
the
community,
land
trust
and
the
other
ideas
could
be
called
home
ownership
strategies,
perhaps-
and
I
I
and
then
have
like-
maybe
subheadings
underneath
if
we
were
going
to
get
into
it,
but
also
if,
if
we
were
willing,
you
could
take
the
homeowner
strategies
and
see
about
pulling
in
some
of
the
the
resident
ideas
with
regards
to
the
perhaps
the
vacancy
tax
and
and
come
up
with
some
language
for
that
particular
topic,
which
to
me,
is
more
of
a
like
a
study
session
to
see
what
ideas
could
turn
into
ordinances
for
the
city
in
the
future.
B
With
regards
to
housing
stock.
My
one
concern
on
that
is
that
I
well
not
really
a
concern.
I
think
it
should
be
part
of
the
the
housing
element,
part
of
the
assessment
that
we've
been
asking
for
which
hopefully
has
been
underway,
but
I
know
that
I
I've
heard
the
request
for
what
we,
what
do
we
have
already
many
times
now,
and
it
supposedly
is
underway
for
for
that
process.
B
B
I
I
kind
of
thought
that
your
idea
that
you
had
further
down
in
the
list
with
regards
to
homelessness
and
jobs
that
there
was
perhaps
some
way
to
include
that
in
the
actually
the
eli
and
the
bmr
housing
it
is
for
developmentally
disabled
individuals,
but
it
also
says
the
eli,
so
you
could
potentially
add
in
something
for
homelessness
and
I'm
not
seeing
the
simian
pro
property
being
mentioned,
but
there
may
be
some
way
that
that
could
be
explored
and
and
if
we
do
get
the
other
properties
on
the
list
burn
potentially
sure
you
could
develop
on
that
site.
B
B
Thank
you.
That's
it.
A
Okay,
let
me
try
to
work
backwards
here,
so.
A
Okay,
just
stop
your
screen
share.
Let
me
you
know,
since
you've
had
your
turn.
Yeah
keep
your
hand
up
I'll
I'll
respond
to
you
in
a
moment
vice
mayor.
So
with
regard
to
the
the
student
internship
program,
that
was
mine,
and
so
I
really
I
don't
have
objections
to
refinements.
A
You
know,
but
I
think
that
you
know
those
refinements
are
probably
something
that
you
know
ultimately
are
going
to
get
pushed
down
the
road,
and
that's
that's
probably
true,
for
a
lot
of
what
we're
you
know
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
scope
of
her
subject
matter,
and
so
as
I
was
writing
that
what
I
realized
is
that
you
know
the
beginning
of
a
fiscal
year
is
july
1st,
and
so,
if
we
put
this
in,
you
know
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
even
if
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
pass
it
and
it
gets
on
our
work
program
by
the
time
it
starts
we're
talking
about
already
being
in
the
middle
of
a
student
summer
break.
A
So
you
know,
pragmatically
speaking,
that's
that's
too
late
to
initiate
certainly
a
full-fledged
internship
program.
So
you
know
my
thought
on.
That
was
that
we
could
individually
take
on.
You
know
student
interns
this
year,
like
in
most
years.
You
know
certain
members
of
council
do
end
up.
You
know
responding
to
what
are
inevitable.
You
know
inquiries
from
our
from
our
students,
and
you
know
I
think
we
put
on
the
work
program.
What
we're
really
doing
is
we're
committing
to
calendar
year,
2023
potentially
having
a
more
full-fledged
program.
A
A
So
you
know
this
is
something
where
I
think
that
it's
very
legitimate
to
put
that
detail
in,
but-
and
I
understand
you
know
we
should
unders-
we
should
have
a
common
understanding
of
what
we're
voting
for,
but
I
am
hearing
a
couple
of
things
in
terms
of
kind
of
new
topical
items
such
as
home
ownership,
that
I
think
you
know
we
should.
A
We
should
have
more
of
that
kind
of
threshold
question
of
whether
we're
willing
to
entertain
new
items
here,
and
so
I
I
think
if
we
can
answer
that
threshold
question,
then
you
know
if
it's
a
yes,
then
we
can
just
go
through
these
items.
I
think
they're
a
manageable
amount.
I
I'm
hearing
a
few
from
the
public
and
a
couple
here,
maybe
maybe
another
one
if
you
include
the
the
city
properties.
A
So
let
me
just
kind
of
ask
each
of
us
here:
we
have
a
set
list.
Okay,
it
was
a
desk
item
in
terms
of
the
kind
of
the
full-fledged
you
know,
version
of
it.
Do
we
want
to
go
with
that
set
list
in
terms
of
how
we,
you
know,
proceed
to
either
vote
or
call
or
do
we
want
to?
You
know
potentially
add
a
few
this
evening,
and
so
you
know,
let's
just
take
a
you
know
a
sense
of
it
here
in
a
straw
poll.
A
You
know
if
I
end
up
being
the
tiebreaker,
you
know
for
the,
for
the
sake
of
you
know
just
trying
to
go
forward.
As
a
group,
I
will
say
yes
as
long
as
it's
relegated
to
these
five
or
six
things,
but
vice
mayor
ciao,
would
you
be
in
support
of
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
calling
you
to
make
comments
on
what
you
wanted
to
you
know
kind
of
elaborate
on.
I
just
want
to
get
a
sense.
You
know
in
an
effort
to
you,
know
possibly
curtail
this
or
define
the
parameters
of
it.
A
E
A
Councilmember
willie,
would
you
want
to
add
items?
Yes?
Okay,
that's
a
yes,
councilmember!
More!
Yes!
Councilmember
way.
Would
you
be
okay
with
item
adding
the
items.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
I
hear
you
counseling,
but
I
will
note
that
the
public
that
did
come
out
tonight
did,
like
I
said
earlier.
You
know,
suggest
a
few
items
that
that
aren't
on
here
right,
yeah.
So,
okay,
you
know,
I'm
I'm
really
just
counting.
You
know
six
items,
three
items
from
our
council
and
three
items
from
public,
and
so
you
know
perhaps
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
go.
Go
over
those
items
determine
whether
we
want
to
put
those
on
the
list
and
then
go
through
the
other
items.
A
I
I
would
say,
let's,
let's,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
very
low
ranked
ones
the
ones
I
got
say
three
points
or
less
and
then
also
the
ones
that
are
not
includes
on
staff
recommendations
and
then
hopefully
we
can
come
up
with
something
that
would
be
a
more
you
know,
consolidated
list
that
will
will
then
proceed
to
you
know
prioritize
at
a
different
session
so
and
so
before
we
do
that.
Vice
versa,
you
seem
to
want
it
kind
of.
E
A
Okay,
well,
let's
you
know,
let's
put
that
in
as
an
as
a
item
to
consider
tell
someone
away.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
Do
you
want
to
make
a
comment.
I
Yes,
I
do
because
you
know
that
I
I
get
it
we
get
public
says
support,
but
other
probably
doesn't
know
that
they
can
propose
and
when
we
talk
about
tasks,
packs
we're
gonna
get
a
lot
of
other
opinions.
I
just
have
an
issue
of
adding
something,
that's
so
controversial,
and
but
I
guess
we
need
to
talk
about
it.
A
B
Hey
thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
was
wondering
if,
if,
if
we
word
it
a
certain
way
that
it,
the
staff,
could
come
back
with
various
strategies
that
we
then
discuss
and
prioritize
at
a
at
a
later
date,
for
instance,
if
we
were
to
call
it
something
like
and
someone
else
can
correct
me
or
add
or
change,
he
called
it
something
like
housing
ownership
strategies.
B
Perhaps
then,
maybe
that
more
of
a
vague
title
could
allow
staff
to
come
back
and
then
say
you
could
consider
a
vacancy
tax.
These
cities
did
it.
This
is
how
it
went.
You
could
consider
foreign
ownership
tax.
These
are
the
cities
that
have
done
it.
I
actually
don't
know
of
any
in
the
united
states,
just
vancouver,
but
there's
more.
If
who
who
tried
restricting
corporate
ownership
to
apartments?
Did
it
work?
How
did
that
go?
Was
it
popular
any
any
of
these
suggestions?
B
So
basically,
everything
that
that
vice
mayor
has
suggested
could
come
back
as
an
array
of
options,
including
measure
a
the
loan
assistance,
and
maybe
that's
a
way
that
we
can
just
provide
the
options.
We
talk
about
them
and
see
later
what
the
what
the
the
residents
think
about
it.
A
D
Yeah
this,
whatever
council
is
going
to
end
up
doing,
will
do,
but
this
is
a
that
would
be
a
considerable
amount
of
work
and
especially
to
do
work
that
if
we
don't,
if
the
council
decides
no,
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
One.
We
would
have
expended
substantial
staff
time
to
go
through.
D
A
I'm
not
quite
understanding
so
so
are.
Are
you
indicating
that
you
wouldn't
want
to
add
it
to
a
potential
consideration
for
a
work
plan,
item
or.
D
No,
if
we
I'm
sorry
mayor
if
we
added
an
item,
that's
that's
fine,
but
to
start
checking
and
seeing
and
doing
the
research
on
different
items,
and
it's
not
one
that
is
being
absolutely
hundred
percent
approved
by
the
council.
That's
a
lot
of
staff
time,
that's
being
used
and
it's
possibly
for
an
item
that
will
not
be
voted
on
and
ranked
high
enough
for
us
to
do
anything.
A
Okay,
no,
I
I,
I
think,
we're
not
quite
at
that
point
yet
right
now,
where
we're
you
know,
giving
a
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down
to
add
that
as
a
description,
so
I
I
think
councilwoman
moore
is
really
going
through
kind
of
like
a
deliberative
process
which
we're
not
you
know
all
five
of
us
committed
to
in
terms
of
adding
you
know
those
those
specifics.
So
you
know
let
me
okay.
So
so
again
we
have
a
few
items
that
we're
talking
about
here.
They're
limited,
you
know,
some
are
you
know
housing?
A
You
know
ownership
strategy
vacancy
tax.
Whatever
you
want
to
describe
it,
it
seems
like
there's
an
attempt
to
create
a
bit
of
an
omnibus
you
know
item,
and
so
let
me
let
me
let
me
start
with
this.
Okay,
let's
go
through
counsel
and
figure
out.
If
there's
an
appetite
to.
You
know
even
consider
this
as
an
added
item,
so
I'm
gonna
go
through
in
the
order
of
same
same
that
I
checked
last
time
vice
mayor,
child
counselor,
willie
and
then
councilmember
more
customer
away
than
myself,
so
vice
mayor
ciao.
A
Would
you
want
to
add
this
item
on
under
a
work
plan?
Consideration,
for
you
know
something
that
would
be
written
out
and
able
to
be
noticed
properly.
E
E
E
E
A
Okay,
okay,
council
member
willie,
would
you
be
in
support
of
adding
this
as
a
potential
work
plan
item
to
be
voted
upon?
Yes,
okay,
councilmember,
moore.
B
I
had
a
caveat,
I
mean
I
I
out
of
that,
like
the
four
that
were
suggested
vacancy
tax
foreign
ownership
tax,
I
would
take
like
one
and
explore
vacancy
tax
only
because
I've
seen
it
in
berkeley
is
it
berkeley
oakland,
I
believe,
measure
z,
they
have
it
and
then
I
they're
looking
at
it
up
in
san
francisco.
B
So
I
would
like
to
just
take
a
look
see
how
it's
going
there
and
and
personally
I
would
not
touch
items
two
three
and
four
that
were
suggested
in
in
that,
because
I'm
just
out
of
out
of
conservativism
for
what
we
were,
what
we
would
look
at
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
going
so
far
afield.
So,
overall
the
the
answer
is
yes,
I
would
like
to
explore
it,
but
I
would
really
narrow
the
focus
somehow.
A
Okay,
yes,
with
qualifiers,
noted,
councilmember
way.
I
No
because
I
would
like
to
rate
our
own
pro
programs
already
on
the
table.
First,
tax
measures
are
very,
very
controversial.
It's
just
and
exploited
it's
going
to
take
staff
time.
I
really
want
to
staff
input
how
much
time
they
do
they
have
to
plan
to
do
it,
whether
we
have
other
memorial
park.
Other
things,
that's
more
important
again
we're
adding
things
that
I
think
we
even
without
staff,
input
that
how
much
time
that
they're
going
to
take
them
and
we
might
explore
the
vacancy
tax
and
and
decided.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much.
That's
not
what
I.
A
A
A
Okay,
and
so
you
know,
none
of
us
has
that
description
here,
and
so
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
we
go
back
to
staff
and
ask
them
to
come
up
with
that
description.
We're
going
to
have
to
go
ahead
and
you
know,
consolidate
the
the
results
of
our
work.
Okay,
this
is
the
addition
portion
and
we're
going
to
have
to
go
back
and
you
know
hopefully
pull
out.
A
You
know
some
of
these
items,
and
so
so
that'll
be
the
first
item
and
I'm
going
to
propose
an
omnibus
motion
based
upon
what
we're
doing
this
is
not
a
motion.
Okay,
this
is
not
a
formal,
you
know
vote,
but
it
is
a
show
of
support.
A
My
second
question
is
this:
you
know
with
regard
to
the
the
city-owned
properties.
Would
there
be
a
support
for
adding
a
work
plan
item
explicitly
to
state
that
we're
going
to
be?
You
know
visiting
this
in
terms
of
staff,
providing
us
a
an
update
or
study
session
on
the
on
the
on
a
public
study
session
on
the
state
of
these?
You
know
properties,
and
you
know
some
some
proposed
plan
going
forward.
Vice
mayor
chow,.
E
I
have
to
clarify
here
is
my
proposal:
item
1
housing,
stock
survey,
item
2,
community
land,
trust
item,
3,
home
ownership,
assistance
program
item
for
incentive
for
more
ownership.
Housing
tax
is
only
maybe
a
next
step
after
we
know
where
we
are.
I
did
not
propose
next
year
we
will
even
study
vacancy
text
so
there
it
seems
to
be
a
misunderstanding.
E
I'm
just
saying
that
that
could
be
still
considered,
but
that's
not
the
main
thing
in
what
I'm
proposing
here.
But
people
are
objecting
because
something
that's
a
3d
secondary.
So
I'm
I
really
want
to
clarify
that
and
for
the
si
list
of
city
properties
as
a
work
program.
Item
yeah.
I
think
that
should
be
there.
We
really
need
to
discuss
how
to
deal
with
them.
We
can
let
them
sit
there.
A
Yeah
memorialize
that
so
that
should
be
the
relatively
easy
one.
I'm
a
yes
on
that
one
as
well,
and
so
at
this
point
I
will
go
ahead
and
you
know
just
remind
everyone
that
we
do
have.
We
do
have
another
round
coming
back
at
us
clearly,
because
we're
adding
a
couple
of
items.
I
I
do
want
to
ask
our
group:
do
you
want
to
consider
the
I
I
identify
them
as
three
a
senior
strategy
survey,
funding
carmen
bridge
and
then
also.
A
It
wasn't,
it
was
the
it
was,
the
one
that
we
just
dealt
with
actually
so
so
it
would
just
be
two
more
here.
It
would
be
the
senior
strategy
survey
funding
in
carbon
bridge.
Do
we
want
to
deal
with
those
as
potential
additional
items?
I
can
ask
in
the
same
same
manner.
A
Does
anyone
want
to
discuss
this
before
I
ask
for
a
straw
poll
opinion
we'll
take
him
in
order,
so
richard
adler
had
suggested
that
we
commission
a
senior
survey
and
that
age
friendly
cupertino
the
organization
essentially
be
put
in
charge
of
commission
of
running
the
survey.
A
A
F
B
Okay,
yeah,
I
I
if
you
if
the
vice
mayor
is
referring
to
item.
F
B
So
I
think
personally,
I
think
we've
got
it
covered
and
then
the
other
part
is
kind
of
getting
into
a
policy
issue
about
who's
in
who's,
in
control
of
running
these,
these
projects,
and
so
personally,
I
want
to
keep
it
in
in
the
city
staff
hands
as
much
as
possible,
and
I
I
have
an
example
from
another
project
which
we'll
get
to
later
in
the
evening,
so
I'm
I'm
not
actually
in
support
of
of
adding
either
of
these
items
to
the
to
the
list
right
now.
Thank
you.
E
And
can
I
clarify
what
this
survey
is
sure
voicemail?
So
this
is
a
specific
survey
that
they
already
identified
a
company,
that's
very
experienced
in
running
this
kind
of
survey
in
other
cities,
and
richard
adler
has
done
helped
in
a
previous
city.
He
lived
before.
So
it's
not
something
we
are
coming
up
from
scratch
and
it
will
ask
details
on
the
different
kind
of
service
needs
that
seniors
need.
E
So
it's
so
it's
something
they
already
have,
but
we'll
customize
it
to
cupertino's
need
and
they'll
help,
help
cut
customize
that
so
I
that
is
not
something
the
city
staff
would
be
able
to
come
up
from
scratch
and
they
already
identified.
A
Okay,
thanks
councilmember
customer
more,
you
have
hand
raised.
B
Thank
you
and
that
again
that
that
gets
into
the
procurement
issue
and
contracting
and
which
is
something
that
we've
identified
in
the
internal
audit,
so
I
again
have
a
problem
with
this
suggestion.
Thank
you,
jim.
You.
D
A
Okay,
okay,
thank
you
jim!
Well!
Let
me
let
me
hear
from
the
other
members
of
council.
So
is
there
an
appetite
too
and
and
let's
just
deal
with
your
survey
first
council
member
willie.
H
So,
as
I
originally
said,
I'd
like
to
keep
our
work
plan
to
around
30
items,
so
I
would
not
advocate
for
having
this
be
its
own
line
item.
I
would
think
that
it's
possible
to
add
this
to
line
item
15
and
the
night
that
we
decide
on
the
final
work
plan.
We
could
decide
to
either
pencil
it
in
or
strike
it
out.
You
know
put
it
in
and
we
might
strike
it
out
depending
on
what
staff
says
it's
going
to
cost
and
the
added
hours
over
and
above
what
they're
planning
for
item
15..
H
A
Thanks
councilman
councilmember
way.
I
My
opinion
is
same
as
councilman
member
willie.
This
is
a
very
dedicated
group
and
then
working
with
our
staff.
We
can
use
this
survey
or
that
survey,
but
I
think,
including
the
senior
strategy,
will
be
a
good
thing.
A
Okay,
well
great,
I
I
don't
mean
to
be
unoriginal,
but
when
I
heard
council
member
willie's
suggestion
it
sounded,
it
sounded
like
a
good
idea
to
me.
I
mean
in
my
idea,
was
really
to
kind
of
send
this
as
a
referral
to
staff.
As
to
you
know
what
their
recommendations
would
be
after
hearing
this
and
after
evaluating
it,
I
think
that
could
easily
be
folded
in
item
number
15..
What
I
like
about
item
number
15
is:
it
also
mentions
both
the
city
council
and
commissions,
and
that's
really
what
we
have
purview
over.
A
I
I
think
that
it
really
doesn't
make
sense,
and
so
what
I
would
say
is
that
if
number
15
could
be
modified
to
include
this
idea
and
some
staff
vetting
of
it,
you
know
we
could
kind
of
fold
this
into
a
strategy
over
which
we
have
you
know
some
direct
contact
and
you
know
ability
to
engage
because
there
really
are
a
lot
of
you
know.
Kind
of
outreach
mechanisms
that
are
are
quite
untapped.
A
You
know
with
within
our
council
and
our
commissions-
and
you
know
by
that
point
I'll
just
I
will
just
point
out
when
it
came
to
some
of
these
projects
recently,
particularly
our
litter
pickup,
I
mean
as
a
council,
we
were
able
to
get
15
volunteers,
including
ourselves
out
there
I
mean
you
know:
vta
did
contact
our
city
staff
and
then
there
was
a
couple
rounds
of
outreach.
A
I
think
they
got
like
three
people
you
know
from
from
the
community,
and
so
you
know
I
think
to
that
point
as
well,
when
people
are
trying
to
outreach.
You
know
it's
really
a
good
idea
to
lean
on
on
council
and
our
you
know
appointeds,
because
they're
we're
from
the
city
and
to
be
here
to
be
sitting
here,
we
had
to
get
you
know
thousands
upon
thousands
of
votes
of
support.
So
that's
just
something
to
think
about.
A
In
terms
of
you
know
this
kind
of
conduct
conducting
of
outreach
vice
mayor,
chow
and
then
councilmember
moore
yeah.
E
I
want
to
clarify,
of
course
I
didn't
mean
that
city
has
to
use
that
consultant.
They
they
propose.
What
I
mean
is
they
have
done
the
work.
There
is
this
type
of
survey
that's
done
by
people.
Of
course
we
can
do
ifp.
There
might
be
multiple
different
kind.
We
can
choose
from
that's
better
and
what
I
mean
is
just
there
is
certain
way.
People
already
have
experience
doing,
and
another
thing
is
under
this
item.
E
E
They
don't
use
senior
center
or
canada
ford.
They
cannot
afford
the
pricey
rental
homes,
they
don't
qualify
for
west
valley,
community
services,
but
they
age
at
home
because
that's
the
most
affordable
way,
but
what
services
can
do
they
need?
What
services
are
there
auto?
Has
this
kind
of
service
for
aj
at
home
population?
We
don't
some
other
cities
have.
I
think
this
is
what
linear
strategy
should
be.
We
have
this
item
this
whole
year.
It
didn't
do
anything
but
did
a
supervision
survey.
E
A
Okay
yeah,
so
let's
go
to
councilman
moore.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
comment
on
this.
B
B
If
there's
something
that
staff
can
can
provide
information
on
so
going
back
to
the
original
question,
what's
the
the
thirty
four
thousand
dollars?
What
was
that?
What
were
people
expecting
for
a
work
product
from
that.
A
B
Thank
you,
mayor,
paul
in
the
in
the
work
program
that
we
have
now
and
in
the
previous
one
it
has
a
estimated
budget
of
thirty
four
thousand
dollars.
I
see
I
was
wondering
what
that
was
for.
D
A
lot
of
that
was
due
to
outreach
and
some
staffing
issues
you
know
trying
to
have
enough
people,
I
don't
know,
is
carrie
on
tonight
there
she
is.
M
Good
evening,
yes-
and
that
was
in
order
to
do
outreach
for
the
actual
survey
and
then
to
address
what
the
the
product
would
be
as
far
as
outreach
goes
once
we
got
information
from
the
survey.
So
a
lot
of
it
was
in
response
to
what
resources
seniors
were
not
aware
of
and
how
we
would
address
getting
them
that
information,
so
whether
that
be
a
mailer
of
some
sort
or
some
type
of
marketing
campaign.
Based
on
the
information
that
we
got
back.
A
B
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
in
our
table
we
have
estimated
budget,
not
including
staff
of
of
the
34
000,
so
just
to
point
out
that
the
staff
time
is
not
included
in
that
amount.
All
right.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
A
No
no
good
point-
and
these
are
these-
are
all
really
good
cohesive,
connecting
points
to
our
current
work
plan.
So
you
know
what
I'm.
What
I'm
hearing
so
far
is
that
there
is
some
appetite
to
move
forward
in
some
capacity
and
there's
a
reminder
of
what's
on
our
current
work
plan
as
well.
A
A
You
know,
frankly,
I
I
don't
have
enough
ear
to
the
ground
to
know
precisely
what
the
genesis
of
this
was,
because
I
see
it
wasn't
on
our
you
know
prior
iterations
of
voting
here,
but
there
were
a
number
of
people
that
spoke
on
it,
not
just
you
know
for
it,
but
also
with
reservations,
and
so
let
me
go
through
the
same
order,
but
I'll
take
some
comments.
First,
councilmember
way
did
you
want
to
speak
to
this
item?
Yes,.
I
I
would
like
to
have
some
clarification
because
I
do
remember:
carmen
bridge
was
or
is
on
our
either
cip
or
because
we
did
have
some
money
in
there
to
acquire
land
and
to
investigate.
So
I
remember
it
was
in
last
year's
something
and
sorry
I
think,
quite
as
a
cip
or
is
it
on
a
work
plan,
and
this
is
not
something
out
of
the
blue.
This
has
been
studied.
Parking
recreation
has
been
commissioned
has
recommended,
so
I
don't
think
that
residents
are
coming
to
lobby
any
specific
things.
This
was
on
our
plan.
I
Even
before
I
was
elected
on
council,
I
believe
so
I
do
believe
if
it's
not
on
the
work
plan,
it
needs
to
be
on
the
cip
plan
and
I
did
ask
manager
jim
about
you
know
the
the
resident
said
this
ownership
thing
is
resolved,
whether
it's
confirmed
by
the
staff
or
not.
I
haven't
heard
about
that.
So
I
just
want
some
clarifications.
A
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mary
did
have
a
short
update
on
it
and
I
I
was
under
the
impression
from
what
I
believe
I
was
told
that
it
is
city-owned
property,
but
if
chad
is
still
available,
he
can
and.
K
Yeah,
so
this
staff
did
investigate
the
land
ownership
there
on
the
north
side
of
carmen
road
bridge
for
the
city
work
program,
and
in
that
investigation
we
found
that
the
city
actually
does
own
that
land,
the
county
apn
maps
were
confusing
misleading,
indicating
that
it
was
privately
owned.
K
So
now
that
we
have
those
that
we
have,
that
established
we're
looking
to
potentially
bring
for
council
consideration
at
some
point
in
the
future.
The
actual
bridge
projects.
A
Okay
and
jim,
your
your
hand,
is
still.
E
So,
first
should
we
vote
on
the
senior
strategy
with
the
to
approve
the
modification
or
the
addition
under
that
first
do
a
strong
vote.
E
Were
in
the
middle
of
carmen
bridge,
I
I
understand
we
have
a
long
list
of
capital
projects
like
earthquake
safety
for
the
city
and
other
city-owned
buildings
and
carmen
bridge.
It
would
really
nice
to
have
project.
I
would
have
loved
to
have
a
bridge
there.
You
can
walk
over
and
there
are
many
bike
projects
too,
especially
on
areas.
That's
high,
exited
prone,
and
do
we
have
funding
for
those
do
we?
E
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
have
that
visibility,
but
if
today
I
don't
need
to
worry
about
that.
Just
come
and
bridge
hey
yeah
I'll
support
that
I
it
would
be
really
nice
to
be
able
to
have
that,
but
so,
when
the
cip
comes
back,
I
hope
that
we
have
that
long-term
view
of
how
much
we
do
have
to
to
spend
on.
So
we
can
decide
if
we
have
money
for
this
item.
Thank
you.
B
B
There
wasn't
a
sidewalk
to
my
recollection
that
it
is
kind
of
a
it
perhaps
has
a
rural
designation
as
well,
and
there
was
some
concern
about
the
suggestion
for
it
to
be:
have
have
bike
access
and
that
was
kind
of
a
interesting
and
somewhat
problematic
issue,
because
you
you
don't
have
sidewalks
and
it
it
was.
It
was
kind
of
where,
where
the
bicycle's
going
to
go,
is
this
really
a
safe
area?
B
There
was
something
about
needing
a
certain
percentage
or
number
of
of
residents
who
were
in
support
of
it,
and
there
was
so
there
was
there
were
some
is,
I
don't
want
to
say
controversial,
but
there
were
some
more
complicated
issues
with
that
project
that
make
me
very
uncomfortable,
putting
it
on
to
the
work
plan
having
seen
it
before
in
in
and
it's
there
there's
issues
with
this,
so
I
I
I
wish
that
this
were
suggested
earlier,
but
at
this
at
this
11th
hour,
recalling
these
items
I'm
very
reluctant
to
put
it
on
the
on
the
list.
B
A
I
Oh,
thank
you.
I
was
just
gonna
see
if
we
could.
I
can
get
the
answer
whether
this
was
on
the
cip
plan
or
not,
because
everything
council
remember
more
talk
about
it.
I
remember
we.
We
had
discussed
that
when
it
was
on
the
cip
plan
last
year
or
a
work
plan,
and
I
I
do
think
we're
just
talking
about
whether
we
want
to
put
in
a
work
plan
or
not.
Since
you
know
if
we
say
this
is
the
way
ours
we're
adding
some.
I
You
know
other
things,
that's
really
big
too,
so
I
want
to
give
it
a
fair
chance
of
because
this
is
really
a
plan.
That's
not
new.
It's
been
there
for
a
long,
long
time
and
it's
being
the
top
priority
for
parkland
recreation
commission
for
a
while
too
so,
and
we
did
work
on
it
last
year.
So
I
want
to
say
this
is
not
a
a
sudden
plan.
That's
coming
up.
It
just
probably
is
not
in
a
work
plan
because
it
on
the
cip
plan.
It's
so
can
I
get
my
answers.
A
A
And
the
other
part
about
I'm
not
sure
that
it
made
it
onto
our
I'm
pretty
sure
it
did
not
in
fact
make
it
on
to
our
work
plan
priorities.
You
know
for
the
for
the
current
fiscal
year,
which
goes
to
another
question
as
to
you
know
the
relationship
between
cip
projects
and
and
work
plan
projects.
Right
I
mean
this
if
it
is
a
cip
project,
I
guess
it
leads
to
the
question
of
how
how
was
the
cip
project
determined,
especially
vis-a-vis?
A
K
Briefly,
the
carmen
road
bridge
item
that
was
on
the
city
work
plan
from
last
year
was
an
investigation
as
to
trying
to
acquire
the
necessary
ownership
to
place
the
bridge
here.
That
was
the
only
plan
that
was
on
the
city
work
plan.
There
is
nothing
on
the
cip
at
this
point
in
time.
K
We've
just
found
that
we
already
own
that
land
we
have
a
cip
plan
kind
of
oriented
for
next
year
and
staff
would
recommend
potentially
considering
the
carmen
road
bridge
for
the
next
fiscal
year
after
that
fiscal
year,
23
24
that
would
allow
us
to
get
caught
up
on
many
of
the
current
projects
that
are
already
currently
funded
are
underway,
as
well
as
kind
of
tackle
some
of
the
newer
priorities
that
are
coming
up.
One
of
them
being
this
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
feasibility
studies
for
what
would
what
it
would
take
to
renovate.
F
A
That's
great,
you
know,
honestly.
I
I
think
with
that
question
that
answer.
We
probably
you
know
ticked
off
one
work
plan
item
from
this
current
fiscal
year.
Right
I
mean
staff's,
made
the
investigation
and
found
out
the
city
actually
owns
us.
So
I
mean
I,
I
don't
know
why
we
would
necessarily
need
to
agendize
that-
and
you
know,
provide
that,
but
I
mean
maybe
we
can
consent
calendar
it
out.
Since
it's
you
know
a
pretty
clear
update
for
me,
the
timetable
sounds
great.
A
I
mean
you
know
putting
it
on
a
cip
next
year
as
a
recommendation
to
move
forward
the
following.
You
know
fiscal
year.
It
does
make
sense.
You
know,
especially
given
the
scope
of
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
here,
but
let's
go
to
councilman
willie.
You
haven't
waited
on
this
item
yet.
H
Yeah
so
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
weigh
in
I
I
see
that
this
one,
it
really
belongs
on
the
cip
list.
H
The
cost
for
a
bridge
you
know
has
got
to
be
in
the
many
multiple
million
dollar
range
and
the
work
plan
is
really
focused
primarily
on
city
staff
and
then
whatever
funds
they
need
for
for
getting
that
work
done
now
on
the
cip
items.
You
know,
I
think
it
needs
to
then
be
collated
with
the
other
project.
You
know,
as
we
finish
as
staff
finishes
existing
cip
bike
cip.
Then
they
can
pull
in
based
on
the
bike
pad
and
the
community's
priorities.
H
You
know
the
clown
road
separated
bike
lanes,
the
stevens,
creek
separated
bike
lanes,
the
bike
lanes
on
bub
road,
the
regnar
creek
and
so
in
fairness
to
the
whole
community
for
dispersal
of
the
money
that
we
have
and
let
the
priorities
be
set
and
equally
allotted.
H
And
if,
if
the
community
says
the
the
next
highest
priority
item,
when
anything
finishes
is
carmen,
then
I
would
say
you
know
boom,
that's
where,
where
it
would
belong
and
tonight,
I
think
we
should
focus
on
the
work
plan,
and
I
can
say
you
know
we
have
two
bike
items
on
our
current
work
plan:
I'm
trying
to
keep
it
to
30
and
we
have
vision,
zero
and
we
also
have
bike
facilities.
H
A
Thank
you,
councilman,
william.
I
think
we're
in
alignment
there
and
I'll
take
it
with
councilmember
moore's
comments
that
we
wouldn't
have
the
majority
of
sticking
it
on
the
on
the
current
list
to
vote
on
for
for
the
work
plan
in
this
upcoming
fiscal
year
under
advisement
from
our
staff
that
you
know
the
plan
is
to
put
on
the
cip
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
Never
nevertheless,
councilman
you
have
your
hand
raised.
I
I'm
you
know.
I
Actually
one
because
it
did
mention
that
we
could
get
some
grant
from,
because
this
is
a
project
that
has
potential
to
get
brand.
So
I
wonder
if
the
staff,
if
the
staff,
think
the
timing
is
right
when
to
get
a
brand,
maybe
I'll
leave
to
the
staff's
discretion.
But
I
want
to
say
that
if
we
can
get
some
brand
of
this
project,
then
we
can
save
some
money.
F
B
Be
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
off
off
here,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
city
work
program,
goal
survey
from
engage,
cupertino,
255
visitors,
185
responses,
182
are
anonymous,
three
are
registered
and
then,
when
I
look
at
it,
I
would
actually
like
staff
from
it
department
to
pull
up
the
ip
addresses
that
these
survey
responses
are
coming
from.
These
anonymous
responses
are
kind
of
interesting
anonymous.
They
want
housing
at
306
pm
same
day,
3,
40
housing
and
quality
of
life.
Anonymous.
B
I'm
just
thinking
that
this
anonymous
person
is
is
somewhat
similar,
making
very
similar
responses,
dola
areas
and
multiple
cupertino
parks,
the
next
one,
and
that
was
348
403
dolla
off
leash
park
with
more
available
times,
414
established
new
dollas
418,
open,
more
parks
and
public
spaces
for
dogs.
B
I'm
seeing
a
trend
here,
so
I
actually
would
like
staff
to
see
if,
if
this
survey
has
been
put
out
there
in
a
way
that
can
block
people
from
repeat
ip
responses,
we
saw
this
happen
with
the
optico
survey,
where
you
could
spoof
the
system
very
very
easily
and
and
flood
it
with
with
responses.
B
So
I'm
concerned
that
this
this
survey
has
some
has
some
problems,
so
I
I
I
appreciate
that
that
that
it
was
done,
but
this
one
had
at
first
glance
it
looked
like
the
the
carmen
bridge
ended
up
pretty
high
on
it
as
well.
So
I
would
like
a
little
bit
of
research
on
this
when
we're
doing
these
surveys.
Are
we
getting
really
good
and
accurate
information
and
data
back?
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
so
here
here's
what
I
would
suggest
you
know
we're
we're
coming
up
on
11
20..
I
would
like
just
to
get
through
another
item,
at
least
we're
on
item
12
item
13
shouldn't
take
too
long,
I'm
not
anticipating
either
item
14
or
15
can
get
done.
Those
are
respectively,
the
economic
development
committee,
as
well
as
something
else
that
will
take.
I
think,
a
more
extensive
amount
of
time
so
here.
A
What
I
would
suggest
is
that
it
looks
like
we
do
have
support
to
add
to
this
list
a
couple
of
items,
one
having
to
do
with
housing
ownership
strategies
in
a
study
session
with
with
a
possible
inclusion.
Ultimately
of
you,
know
the
vacancy
tax
discussion
and
a
modification
to
item
15
to
include
a
staff
recommendation
for
a
survey
of
our
senior
population.
A
A
You
know
we
do
have
a
number
of
items
that
only
got
one
point
and,
I
would
say
all
of
those
items
except
for
the
long
term
strategic
plan.
A
Those
are
four
items
I
should
say
were
were
not
recommended
for
inclusion
by
the
staff
so
or
maybe
it's
five
yeah,
it's
five
and
then
of
those
you
know
one
of
them
was
not
was
not
recommended
for
inclusion.
So
can
we
can
we
agree
to
not
include
those
in
our
in
our
upcoming
vote.
I
see
vice
mayor
chao
with
a
hand
up
no
no
hand
up.
Okay,.
A
So
my
suggestion
in
this
in
this
list
of
56
items
that
we
have
right
now
that
you
know
when
we
when
we
get
an
updated,
you
know
round
that
we
that
we
exclude
the
one
point
items
that
were,
at
the
very
least
not
recommended
for
inclusion
by
our
city
staff,
and
so
are
we
are
we
okay
with
doing
that,
and
I
see
councilman
moore.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
B
A
I'll
read
the
item.
Titles
52
is
the
festival
that
is
run
by
fine
arts,
commission
53.,
okay,.
B
So
start
at
52,
okay
and
and
and
the
seismic
part
did
did
get
included
that's
up
in
the
40s
okay.
I
was
just
a
little
concerned
that
the
seismic
retrofit
that's
at
43,
we're
cool,
so
42
and
down
I
mean
52
and
down.
F
A
Well,
can
I
get
you
know
you
get
a
sense
of
whether
there's
an
appetite
to
eliminate
the
one
point
ones
that
are
recommended
not
for
inclusion?
Yes,
okay,
all
right,
I
I
see
a
nod
from
councilmember
away
and
councilmember
willie.
Are
you
okay
with
that
yep.
A
And
then
I'm
okay
with
that
vice
mayor
ciao,
I'm
assuming
that
you're
you're.
A
That
we
have
a
majority
here.
There
are
two
items
under
not
include
that
are
two
points.
Those
are
privately
owned:
ev
chargers,
as
councilmember
moore
just
pointed
out
in
volunteer
engagement
strategy,
which
was
a
public
safety
commission
proposal.
So
are
we
okay
with
excluding
those
those
are
numbers
50
and
51.?.
E
Okay,
so
then
I
would
like
this
item
for
the
public
commission
to
continue
to
be
able
to
discuss,
because
we
know
that
block
leader
program.
It
has
been
operational
but
then
really
not
operational.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
for
that
good
vice
mayor,
I'm
I'm
trying
to
be
faithful
to
our
to
our
procedure
that
we
define.
I
don't
think
that
the
council
priorities
on
the
under
the
work
program
are
creating
an
exclusive
set
of
things
that
a
particular
commission
can
add
to
their
items
for
consideration.
A
A
If
we,
if
we,
if
we
drop
this,
I
think
the
public
safety
commission,
you
know,
could
still
take
it
on.
You
know,
as
as
a
as
a
study
session
or
an
update,
yeah.
A
Well,
given
the
fact
that
you-
and
I
basically
reformulated
these-
you
know
guidelines
together
with
katie,
you
know
all
three
of
us
are
here,
so
we
can
kind
of
you
know,
get
a
sense
of
like
how
this
and
this
entire
council
has
been
through
this
program
through
the
last
fiscal
year.
I
I
don't
think
that
this
was
necessarily
constraining
our
our
commission
activity.
A
I
think
I
think
at
the
same
time
it
could
it
can
inform
the
activity
of
each
of
the
commissions
and
how
the
liaisons,
you
know
ultimately
take
this,
but
I
I
don't.
I
don't
see
this
as
something
that
definitively
constrains
it
I
mean
do,
do
we
have
any
other.
A
You
know
this
is
a
per
th.
This
is
a
perfectly
legitimate
procedural
point.
I
mean
you
know
from
my
perspective.
It's
it's
it's
advisement
I
mean.
Ultimately,
you
know
we
are
trying
to
put
the
work
plans
into
sync
with
each
other.
But
if
you
look
at
this,
the
commissioner
handbook
there
is
the
ability
to
you
know,
add
something
that's
like
less
than
two
hours
right
along
the
way.
So
you
know
if
a
commissioned
chair
feels
okay,
I
really
want
you
know
something
that
would
take
less
than
two
hours
staff
time.
A
I
want
a
volunteer
engagement
strategy
right
and
even
though
you
know,
council
basically
said
that's
not
one
of
their
priorities,
that's
something
that
you
know,
I'm
interested
in
as
a
chair
or
or
a
couple
of
commissioners
could
suggest,
and
then
the
constraint
we
put
on
it
was
the
amount
of
time
now
I
can.
A
I
can
envision
a
staff
member
pushing
back
and
saying
well,
this
is
explicitly
in
front
of
council,
that's
not
one
of
their
priorities
and-
and
I
think
that
you
know
just
basically
based
upon
bandwidth
and
the
willingness
of
staff,
and
then
that's,
that's
just
part
of
the
you
know,
that's
part
of
the
calculus
that
we
go
forward
with.
Nonetheless,
right
I
mean
there's
no
there's.
A
Not
like
actual
calculus
right
I
mean
it's
not
you
know,
you
know
you
didn't
put
the
derivative
in
and
you
just
you
know
kind
of.
Did
the
equation
wrong.
I
mean
it's
just
it's
it's
more
of
an
art.
Ultimately,
but
I
you
know,
I
no
longer
see.
I
do
see
councilmember
moore,
you
know
kind
of,
like
you
know,
with
an
expression
and
shaking
her
head,
I
mean
you
know,
look
I
get
it.
You
know.
A
I
know
that
there's
not
like
definitive
rules
on
all
of
this,
but
I
mean
at
the
same
time
you
know.
I
me
I'm
just
trying
to
kind
of
you
know
cut
down
on
some
of
these
things
that
we
would
you
know
be
considering,
because,
obviously
you
know
only
two
of
us
put
one
point.
You
know
on
this.
So,
okay,
I
don't
see
hands
raised
at
this
point.
Let
me
just
go
ahead
and
ask
you
know
for
these
two
point.
You
know
not
include
operational
items.
A
Are
we
okay
with
taking
them
off
for
our?
You
know,
I
see
a
head
nod
from
councilmember
wayne.
Just
interrupt
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
nod.
I
see
councilmember
willie
noddy
a
thumbs
up
from
you,
know:
councilmember,
moore,
okay,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna.
Take
those
off
in
omnibus
motion
as
well.
A
A
Three
three
items
that
are
not
include
recommendations:
those
are
the
visitor
center,
the
impacts
to
schools
and
the
catalytic
converter
theft
prevention
and
the
hybrid
meeting
for
city
council
on
commission
meetings.
That's
not
ranks
you
know,
honestly.
I
think
when
we
get
the
three
points
it's
sort
of
sounding
like
there
are.
You
know,
arguments
to
be
made.
I
mean
councilman
moore.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
B
B
A
You
know
actually
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out.
I
would
say,
given
the
start,
that
we've
you
know
made,
and
you
know
kind
of
you
know
specifically,
you
know,
council
I
mean,
and
more
specifically
me
I
I
mean
I
I
I
think
I
pretty
much
unilaterally
managed
to
get
a
relationship
going
with
caltrans.
I'm
not
sure
we
really
needed
an
adopt
a
highway
program.
I
mean
we
have
good
contacts.
You
know
people
were
really
happy
to
see
us.
We
all
spent
three
hours
cleaning
up
trash
off
of
280..
A
I
mean
I
I
I
actually
feel
like
you
know,
we
we
have
we've
gotten
a
great
start
to
this
kind
of
interagency.
You
know
I
I
would
vote
to
take
it
off.
Frankly,
I
mean
I
I'm
not
sure
that
we
need
the
program
since
we
we've,
you
know,
got
gotten
the
relationship
going
in
in
you
know
rather
a
singular
manner.
That's
that's
quite
positive.
So
so
that
would
be
my
suggestion.
Thanks
for
you
know,
mentioning
number
48
are
people,
okay,
with
removing
number
48.
A
At
this
point
I
mean
you
know
it
just
seems
like
yeah
yeah
I
mean
I
get
the
optical
icing,
but
we've
already
baked
all
the
cake.
So
all
right,
I
you
know
honestly,
I'm
gonna
stop
there
because
we're
you
know
a
little
past,
11
30
right
now,
and
here's
what
I'm
going
to
do.
I'm
going
to
suggest
a
motion.
I'm
going
to
put
this
motion
on
the
table,
okay,
and
just
understand
that
you
know
we're
at
a
point
where
we're
under
this
motion.
A
You
know
asking
staff
to
you
know:
go
back
and
consolidate.
You
know
information
that
they've
heard.
I
would
take
the
excel
spreadsheet,
add
two
items
with
a
directional
staff
to
come
up
with
descriptions
based
upon
our
discussion
for
this
housing
ownership
strategy
study
session.
A
As
the
first
item
to
add-
and
then
the
second
item
is
to
modify
item
15,
to
include
the
staff
recommendation
for
a
survey
of
senior
of
the
senior
population-
and
I
would
further
add
to
that
motion
that
we
remove
the
items
that
receive
one
point
that
are
not
recommended-
that
we
remove
the
items
that
receive
two
points
that
were
not
recommended,
that
we
remove
line
48
the
caltrans
adopted
highway
program
as
well,
and
then
that
we
received
back
the
then
newly
formed
list
of
items
for
a
further
vote.
A
And
so
I
would
I
would
ask
that
we
bring
this
back.
This
shouldn't.
Take
too
much.
You
know
this
shouldn't
take
too
much
time.
My
my
request
is
that
this
just
be
added
to
the
april
19th
meeting
materials.
A
Okay,
so
that
would
you
know,
provide
roughly
a
week
to
get
this
prepared
and
then
it
would
be
published
in
a
week
and
a
day,
maybe
a
week
and
two
days,
and
so
we
would
be
able
to
see
those
as
part
of
the
public
agenda
and
then
we
would
just
revisit
the
voting.
You
know
at
the
time
that
we
would
have
you
know.
A
Presumably
five
or
six
days
to
to
go
over
this,
so
so
that's
that's
my
that's
my
motion
and
I
do
see
a
hand
raised
from
vice
mayor
chow,
but
let
me
ask
if
I
can
get
a
second
for
that
motion
for
the
purpose
of
you
know.
E
E
So,
but
I
I'd
like
to
add,
though,
for
the
dollar
I'd
like
to
strike
the
parts
where
it's
just
before
I
before
another
search
area
can
be
established.
This
is
where
it
says
so.
The
justification
says
trial
ended
in
october
and
ongoing
problem
is
to
be
observed
for
one
year
before
another
such
area
can
be
established.
A
E
Please
don't
and
then
I
hope
that
please
add
one
more
new:
two
new
trials
should
start
as
soon
as
feasible.
A
I
don't
I
don't
see
the
language
that
you're
suggesting
is
in
conflict
with.
What's
there
right
now,
the
revised
objective
is
now
standardized
process
to
create
dollar
trial
programs,
with
no
more
than
two
trials
running
at
a
time,
respond
and
evaluate
community
driven
dollar
proposals
to
implement
additional
dollars
throughout
the
city.
So
so
it's
it's
much
more
generalized
language
right
now,.
A
Trial
ended
october
20.
The
ongoing
program
is
to
be
observed.
Oh
I
see
what
you're
saying:
okay
all
right!
Well,
the
motions
on
the
table
and
seconded
so
you're
asking
for
a
friendly
amendment
to.
A
Let
me
let
me
hear
a
comment.
Councilman
moore,
you
ever
hand
raised.
B
Okay,
so
my
comment
was
that
it
wasn't
clear
that
I
heard
that
city-owned
properties
were
was
in
your
motion
or
or
if
it
needed
to
be.
I
did
not
hear
it.
I.
A
I
do
apologize
for
that.
I
I
missed
that,
and
it
was
something
that
I
you
know
yeah.
No,
I
I
missed.
I
I
didn't
get
to
typing
it
in
my
notes.
I
I
apologize
so
that
that's
supposed
to
be
in
there.
The
study
session
on
city-owned
properties
should
definitively
be
in
there.
Sorry
to
you,
know
kind
of
cut
in
line
there
vice
mayor.
Will
you
support
that
addition
as
a
second
order
promotion
before
we
get
to
the
question?
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
so
that
that
many
emotions
on
the
table
to
include
the
city
on
the
property
study
session
language
and
the
direction
of
staff
bring
that
back.
So
vice
mayor
chow,
you
know,
let
me
let
let
me
I
don't
see
any
comments
you
know
or
hands
raised
from
from
our
our
council
or
staff.
I
I
would
be
okay
with
that.
I
mean,
in
terms
of
you
know,
essentially
empowering
language
to
potentially
move
this
up.
You
know
in
time
I
do
see
councilmember
way
with
the
hand
raised.
I
A
Yeah,
well,
it
does
say:
trial
ended
in
2021.
The
ongoing
program
is
to
be
served
for
one
year
prior
before
another.
Such
area
can
be
established,
so
I
mean
that
could
be
interpreted
as
going
until
october
2022,
which,
which
also
you
know,
falls
within
the
scope
of
the
fiscal
year
that
we're
considering
here
and
not
not
too
far
into
it,
actually
a
little
bit
more
than
a
quarter.
E
So
I
have
another
proposal
and
so
for
the
housing
program
for
the
unza
student.
I
think
I
mentioned.
I
hope
to
that
we
add
we
would
restart
the
home
share
program
that
was
paused
in
2020.
We
thought
it
was
ongoing.
We
approved
that
and
then
it's
stopped
so
and
then
explore
bmr
or
middle
missed,
middle-income
housing,
funded
by
the
890
million
bomb,
major
on
or
off
campus.
E
A
A
So
those
are
two
items
for
clarifications.
You
know
I'm
fine
with
that
as
the
movement,
but
let
me
let
me
hear
from
councilmember
morrow
as
a
hand
raised.
B
Sorry,
mayor
paul,
this
is
a
this
process.
Question.
A
B
We've
cropped
down
this
list,
we're
doing
some
fine
tuning
on
it.
Could
you
please
remind
me,
what's
going
to
happen
next
with
prioritization,
and
are
we
going
to
now
put
put
a
certain
number
of
you?
You've
got
a
grand
total
of
items.
Are
we
going
to
put
a
certain
number
of
fives
and
threes
and
ones
on
here
and
and
get
a
total
after
this
evening?
Is
that
what
we're
doing.
A
This
matrix
this
table
is
going
to
be
updated.
It's
going
to
be
published,
you
know
if
this
motion
passes
it'll
be
published
with
the
april
19th
materials
you'll
have
five
to
six
days
to
review
them
before
the
april
19th
meeting,
and
then
we
will
vote
at
the
april
19th
meeting
further
than
that.
I
haven't
made
a
suggestion
in
the
motion,
but
what
I
would
suggest
is
the
same
procedure
that
we
had.
A
You
know
the
fives
five
fives,
thirteen
threes,
thirteen
ones
and
a
tally
at
that
point,
and
then
at
that
point
I
think
we
make
a
cutoff.
We
make
a
cutoff
as
to
a
certain
number
of
items
that
we
stick
as
priority
items
on
our
work
plan.
A
So
that's
what
I
would
suggest
as
a
as
a
process
moving
forward
councilmember.
Why.
I
A
No
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
be
providing
the
rankings
at
the
meeting,
and
you
know
what
I
think
we
should
be
worried.
I
I
think
we
should
be
working
on
a
way
to
make
that
calculation
relatively
quickly.
You
know,
it's
probably
just
a
matter
of
you
know,
making
the
right
modifications
in
an
excel
spreadsheet.
You
know
we'll
figure
it
out.
You
know
so
that
can
just
be
like
done
via
email
and
a
cut
and
paste
relatively
quickly
after
a
five
minute
break
or
something
like
that.
So
so
then
our
our
totals
could
be.
A
You
know
generated,
and
I
think
that
you
know
as
this
is
going
along.
You
know
you
know
it's
much
appreciated
having
these
excel
spreadsheets,
but
in
terms
of
the
readability
factor
and
like
the
usability
I
mean
that's
work
in
progress
as
well,
but
maybe
we
should
have
a
document
that
basically
puts
every
item
on
one
page
right
so
that
we
can
kind
of
flip
through
you
know
somewhat
of
a
larger
document
and
see
you
know
each
of
these
things
in
a
in
a
more
you
know,
kind
of
kind
of
readable
format.
A
I
don't
know-
maybe
maybe
people's
excel
you
know
kind
of
savvy
is,
is
a
bit
more
more
versed
than
mine,
but
okay.
I've
got
three
hand
raised
now
from
vice
mayor,
chow,
councilmember,
moore
and
councilman
away,
I'll
remind
everyone
that
there
is
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
table.
That's
been
amended
council
member
vice
mayor
ciao.
I
went
ahead
and
stated
that
I'm
fine
with
your
amendments,
you
know
based
on
those
two
items,
please
don't
add
any
more.
A
E
E
A
I
I
do
ask
that
you
know
I
do
I
mean
that
you
know
let's
try
to
get
through
item
number
13
as
well.
As
I
don't
know
12
here
so
can
I
call
some
more
here?
Did
you
have
a
another
comment
at
this
point?
I
have.
B
Real
real
simple:
if
if,
if
the
council
likes
this
idea,
if
we
could
have
just
a
sheet
to
vote
on
and
then
the
long
form
sheet
where
we
can
read
everything
out,
I
think
that
might
help,
and
if
we
can
have
it
just
the
voting
sheet,
if
it
can
fit
on
eight
and
a
half
by
eleven,
it
might
take
two
eight
and
a
half
by
elevens,
because
it's
kind
of
a
long
list.
B
But
if
we
could
do
that,
have
a
nice
little
table
just
with
us,
you
know
just
you
could
probably
just
take
the
the
the
this.
I
guess
it's
the
third
column
briefly
describes
it,
and-
and
let
us
vote
on
that,
I
think
we
could
scrunch
it
down
to
a
single
sheet
and
then,
if
we
need
to
read
the
whole
all
the
details,
we'll
have
the
long
form
spreadsheet.
B
So
we'll
have
a
way
to
do
the
research.
If,
if
the
other
council
members
like
the
idea.
A
Okay,
I'm
fine
with
creating
a
uniform
and
concise
voting
sheet
for
the
purposes
of
our
use
on
april
19th,
and
if
staff
can,
you
know,
you
know,
publish
that
with
the
materials
for
april
19th
that
will
basically
provide
them
a
week
and
a
day
to
generate
those
documents
vice
mayor
chow,
are
you
okay
with
that
further
instruction,
as
a
modification
of
the
motion.
E
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Vice
mayor,
ciao,
councilmember
way.
I
A
You
know,
let
me
let
me
refer
this
question
to
the
city
attorney.
I
think
that's
a
good
question.
I
mean
if
we're
chris,
should
we
be
continuing
this?
If
we're?
Basically,
you
know
as
a
as
a
matter
of
trying
to
say
we're,
setting
a
cut
off
in
terms
of
comments
and
additions
of
you
know
subsequent
items,
because
then
that
would
perhaps
allow
us
also
just
to
take
this.
You
know,
as
a
continuation
of
our
current
discussion,
having
taken
the
public
input.
How
should
this
work
process
wise.
J
Yes,
so
so
you
you
can
you
you
can
proceed
either
way
and
you
know
I
I
think
if
the
item
were
continued,
you
know
we
wouldn't
necessarily
be
required
to
reopen
public
comment.
If
that
were
what
council
desired,
you
know,
but
you
could
certainly
you
know.
F
J
Could
you
could
you
could
vote
to
cut
off
adding
new
items
if
you
wished,
if
you
think
that
would
be
more
transparent
for
the
public?
Of
course,
council
could
always
revisit
that
decision.
You
know
in
the
future.
It's
really
it's
get
council
discretion
to
to
to
restrict
the
discussion
in
that
way.
A
Okay,
well,
let's,
let's,
as
I'll,
make
an
amendment
to
the
motion
to
restrict
new
items
from
being
added
on
after
after
this
point
yeah,
I
won't
try
to
continue
the
items
so
that
we
can
cut
off
public
discussion.
I
I
think
you
know
we'll
see
how
public
comment
goes,
because
we
do
have
some
items
that
weren't,
actually
you
know
suggested
by
the
public.
A
We
probably
you
know,
would
do
well
to
hear
what
that
public
has
to
say
about
the
couple
of
items
that
we
we
have
added
here,
so
vice
mayor
chow
and
then
council,
member
moore.
Well,
let
me
go
to
vice
mayor
ciao.
First,
I
suggested
an
amendment
to
my
motion.
A
Are
you
accepting
of
that
secondary?
Okay?
Oh
great,
so
no
more,
no
more
additional
substantive
items
here
after
this,
and
so
you
have
your
hand
raised
otherwise
as
well.
E
Yeah,
I
actually
lost
track
for
the
senior
strategy,
so
did
the
most
include
the
in-depth
survey
and
the
aging
at
home
services
and
also
maybe
elder
abuse
which
council
member
more
mentioned
financial
financial
abuse,
I
think
also
so,
but
I'm
not
so
did
we
increase
either
motion
include
that
or
not.
A
E
And
then
the
housing
program
for
dianza
on
home,
share
and
housing
or
off
the
anza
site
would
be
considered
right.
E
Second
kind
of
forgot,
which
one
is,
was
it
good,
but
I
have
one
question
about
the
gun
safety
problem.
I
understand
for
the
homeless
jobs
program,
somehow
city
staff
recommend
not
include
because
it
needs
extra
staffing
and
resourcing
this
stuff
for
gun
storage
that
will
need
the
city
staff
coming
is
there
there
is
strong
opposition
or
there
are
strong
opinions
on
both
sides.
This
will
take
a
lot
of
work.
If
the
council
strongly
desire,
we
should
do
it,
but
the
city
staff
recommend
include.
G
Manager,
jim
crew
or
our
director
of
community
development
benfu
either
one.
D
I
was
just
mine
would
just
be
more
of
a
general.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
ben
is
on
or
I'm
trying
to
remember
now
who
it
would
be,
but
on
some
of
those
you
know
the
the
gun
piece.
F
D
As
difficult
because
we
would
be
working
with
the
sheriff's
department
on
that
one,
since
they've
already
been
doing
that
with
other
cities.
So
that's
not
as
staff
intensive,
and
I
forgot
the
other
one
you
had
mentioned,
though
homeless.
D
E
A
Are
I'm
going
to
cut
off
discussion
at
this
point
because
you're
winning
on
one
particular
item-
and
you
know
having
a
discussion
that
you
know
we
really
shouldn't
be
having
at
this
time,
especially
given
the
stated
time
constraints
so
and
the
fact
that
we
have
the
opportunity
on
april
19th
to
bring
it
up
as
well?
And
you
know
if
you
have
an
opinion
on
it,
you
know
it'll
be
in
front
of
you,
you'll
be
able
to
sign
boats
accordingly,
councilmember
moore,
you
have
a
hand
raised
and.
B
Yes,
just
noticing
the
time
11
51,
we
have
item
items,
13,
14
and
15
still
on
the
list.
A
You
know
I
understand
that
and
have
stated
that
so,
madam
city
clerk,
could
you
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
for
this
motion?
That's
on
the
table.
N
A
A
Okay,
item
number
13
is
a
five-minute
teen
commission
term
cycles
item.
I
think,
that's
essentially
clerical
kirsten.
Can
you
condense
that
to
a
couple
of
minutes
you
know
kind
of
get
us
to
the
graveman.
A
Oh
okay,
my
understanding
is
that
there
are
staggered
terms
and
you're
making
a
recommendation
for
an
adjustment
of
current
terms.
Is
that
essentially
what
it
is?
Yes,
okay?
Well,
you
know
I
I'm
I'm
happy
to
vote
on
it,
but
if
people
feel
like
we
need
more
time
to
consider
and
take
in
public
comment,
that's
fine
as
well!
We
can
always
is
this
time-sensitive
amount
of
city
clerk
to
the
extent
that
we
can't
consider
it
on
april
19th.
I
guess
that's
another
piece
of
information
to.
N
I
think
it
would,
it
is
time
sensitive.
It
would
push
out
the
teen
commission
recruitment
process
probably
into
summer
the
summer
months
or
we
or
council
could
allow
staff
to
push
the
recruitment
into
august
before
school
starts,
and
when
the
summer
schedules
and
the
the
summer
vacations
and
for
the
students
to
be
able
to
interview.
A
Okay,
councilmember,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
B
A
N
Okay,
so
so
the
municipal
code
requires
that
the
teen
commission,
the
appointments,
are
two-year,
consists
of
two-year
terms
and
the
appointments
are
made
in
odd
number
years,
with
five
new
appointments
being
made
and
four
new
appointments
being
made
in
even
numbered
years.
At
a
certain
point
in
2011,
the
annual
during
the
animal
recruitment
process.
N
So
appointments
have
continued
to
be
based
on
six
terms,
expiring
in
odd
year,
odd,
numbered
years
and
three
terms
expiring
in
even
numbered
years.
So,
and
so
this
year,
three
members
of
the
teen
commission
have
terms
that
are
set
to
expire.
N
This
conflicts
with
the
code,
which
requires
that
four
members
be
appointed
this
year.
So
due
to
this
conflict,
staff
is
requesting
direction
from
council
to
consider
making
corrections.
N
N
N
A
second
option
is
to
direct
staff
to
act
to
amend
the
code
would
require
an
ordinance
amendment
to
set
the
tag
or
the
staggered
term,
appointments
at
six
appointments
in
odd
numbered
years
and
three
appointments
in
even
number
of
years,
which
is
where
we're
at
right
now
and
then
authorized
staff
to
proceed
with
the
annual
recruitment,
but
setting
the
application
deadline
and
interview
dates
for
three
terms:
expiring
and
the
application
deadline,
because
an
ordinance
amendment
would
be
required.
A
first
and
second
reading
would
add
an
additional
two
months
to
the
process.
N
So
it
would
push
the
interview
dates
to
august,
8th
and
august
9th.
A
N
F
A
Okay,
so
one
person
will
need
to
shorten
their
term
by
a
year
in
order
to
bring
us
into
compliance.
Okay,
all
right
vice
mayor,
ciao
and
then
councilman
away.
E
E
J
J
That
that
council
come
into
compliance
with
the
code,
you
know,
but
but
you
know
what
the
vice
mayor
is
proposing
is
an
option.
J
D
J
There's
concern
is
about
shortening
someone's
term,
I
mean
it
would
be.
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
prohibition
on
reappointing,
someone
whose
you
know
term
would
be
shortened
for
one
year
for
an
additional
two
years,
so
they
would
go
from
a
two-year
term
to
a
three-year
term,
but
so
council
could
council
could
consider
that
at
the
time
of
reappointment
of
the
commission.
A
That's
very
interesting
and
that's
a
good
food
for
thought,
we're
at
11
59
folks.
You
know
and
we're
not
going
to
get
this
item
done.
I'm
sorry!
So
I'm
going
to
move
that
we
continue
item
13
through
15
to
april
19th.
May
I
have
a
second
for.
A
I
mean,
if
there's
so
much
will,
to
I
mean
I
see
I
see,
laughs
and
and
head
shaking,
but
councilmember
moore
did
you
want
to
speak.
A
A
Okay,
so
there's
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
table
to
continue
this
these
three
items
and
then
we
would
be
skipping
the
final
unenumerated
item
before
adjournment
so
councilman
did
you
have
a
comment
on
this.
I
Yes,
I
I
agree
to
extend
it,
but
can
can
we
have
a
little
explanation
of
if
we
like
returning
chris's
suggestion?
What
can
we
get
that
next
time?
Can
we
have
that
in
our
hands
and
or
vice
mayor's
suggestion,
so
that
we
can
vote
it
quickly.
A
Well,
I
mean
if
they
want
to
supplement
the
staff
you
know
report,
then
they
can
based
on
what
we
have
here.
I
guess
so
is:
is
that
is
that
feasible
chris
to
to
do
that
to
speak,
to
or
or
is
that
something
that
wouldn't
be
consistent
with
the
motion
to
continue?
The
item.
A
Okay
to
consider
okay,
great
vice
versa,
your
hand
is
raised,
but
I'm
gonna
call
for
a
vote.
E
E
A
You
know
that
actually
can
it
changes
the
the
nature
of
the
motion.
That's
on
the
table.
Vice
mayor,
you
know
the
the
the.
A
J
E
J
I
think
the
council
has
requested
more
information
and
more
options,
so
so
kirsten,
and
I
will
discuss
that
and
and
come
back
and
try
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
information
needed
to
make
a
decision
next
time.
A
Yeah
I
mean
that
that's
a
good
point.
I
originally
said
you
know,
for
these
meetings,
keep
your
thursdays
open
as
well,
but
you
know
subsequently
I've
run
into
some.
You
know
push
back
on
that,
so
I
I'll
just
you
know,
identify
april
19th
unless,
unless
someone
from
staff.
D
A
Know
tells
me
otherwise
that
that
that
would
be
less
palatable
than
than
continuing
this
later
this
week.
A
So
seeing
no
no
calls
for
for
comment,
madam
city
clerk,
could
you
please
conduct
the
roll
call
vote.
A
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
everyone
and
a
lot
of
good
discussion
on
a
broad
range
of
topics
today,
so
we're
we're
at
midnight,
and
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
adjourn.
Our
meeting
we'll
see
you
on
april
15th
for
our
next
regularly
scheduled
council
meeting.