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Coverage of the Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting of Tuesday, September 21, 2021. Part 1 of 2.
A
A
And
I'm
here
all
right,
so
today's
special
meeting
has
its
topic:
a
study
session
on
the
pre-approved
accessory
dwelling
unit
plans
that
we
have
recently
implemented,
and
I
believe
that
we
have
our
director
of
planning
our
director
ben
fu
here
and
madam
mr
city
manager.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
the
item.
C
D
Welcome,
thank
you,
mr
st
manager.
Thank
you
mayor
good
evening,
mayor
vice
mayor
city,
council
ben
food,
director
of
community
development.
With
me
tonight
I
have
john
martier,
a
senior
senior
planner
with
our
community
development
department,
and
so,
as
the
mayor
introduced
this
item
study
session
to
provide
update
on
our
pre-approved
pre-approved
accessory
drawing
unit
program,
then
we
ask
that
council
receive
this
presentation
and
provide
us
with
any
comments
that
you
may
have.
D
You
can
scroll
down
to
the
second
slide,
please
john.
Thank
you.
As
you
can
see
this.
This
item
originally
was
a
part
of
the
city's
war
program.
From
a
couple
years
ago,
it
initially
started
as
just
to
to
establish
some
procedures
on
how
we
can
fast
track
and
streamline
adu
review
and
that,
as
we
completed
that
effort,
it
turned
into
a
develop
further
developed
into
how
do
we
and
sort
of
incentivize
and
provide
further
incentivize
and
provide
a
pre-approved
adu
program
for
our
residents.
D
So
it
has
also
gone
through
planning
commission
as
well.
We
received
their
comments,
part
of
this
presentation
tonight
john
continues
with
a
slideshow.
We'll
talk
about.
What's
happened,
what's
occurred,
compare
past
past
or
present
and
also
talk
about
what
the
comments
will
receive
from
planning
commission.
So,
with
that
I'll
hand
off
this
part
to
john
john.
E
Thank
you
ben
good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
and
to
the
cupertino
public
at
large,
I'm
john
martier,
the
senior
planner
with
the
community
development
department,
so
yeah,
so
just
continuing
with
ben
was
explaining.
This
is
part
of
a
work
program.
I
am
under
housing
to
establish
procedures
and
policies
on
streamlining
the
edu
review
process.
E
At
least
within
since
2015
you
know,
we've
we've
exempted
from
our
below
market
rate
manual,
the
adus
from
any
bmr
fees
in
the
2018-2019
feed
schedule.
We
greatly
reduced
the
plan
check,
inspection
fees
for
adus,
especially
when
it
comes
in
through
the
building
permit
processes,
and
we've
always
had
a
ministerial
review
of
of
accessory
dwelling
units.
Unless
there
was
some
type
of
hillside
exception
that
was
part
of
it.
E
And
since
the
state
has
gone
through
their
push
to
encourage
accessory
dwelling
units,
I
would
say
since
2016,
the
city
has
always
been
full
compliance
with
the
state
standards
which
includes
reduction
in
parking
and
any
other
minimum
development
standards,
as
well
as
fee
exemptions
in
state
law.
Since
that
date,
these
include
no
impact
fees
for
units
that
are
under
150
square
feet,
which
include
you
know,
park
dedication,
fees
which
ran
in
the
neighborhood
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
and
also
no
off-site
improvements
are
required
for
any
adu,
regardless.
E
So,
as
ben
had
said,
we,
this
was
just
really
a
general
item
in
our
in
our
work
program
to
encourage
edu's,
and
so
myself
and
and
other
staff
members
had
gone
to
look
at
what
other
cities
had
done.
And
what
we
found
was
that
the
city
of
san
jose's
ally,
adu
ally
program,
was
probably
the
most
consistent
with
the
direction
that
we
felt
the
council
at
the
time
had
wanted
to
to
go
in.
E
So
we
we
brought
this
to
the
planning
commission
in
june
23
2020,
and
we
discussed
pretty
in-depth
the
city
of
san
jose
adu
ally
program,
which
really
offers
pre-approved
plans
from
selected
vendors
and
what
they
have
found
is
that
it
really
quickens
the
review
process
while
saving
the
applicant
money,
the
applicant's
money
in
the
staff
report.
You
could
see
that
I
attached
a
or
put
a
link
to
the
san
jose
allied
pro
pre-approved
ally.
E
So
what
is
our
pre-approved
adu
program?
Well,
first,
it
enables
residents
to
choose
a
pre-approved
design
from
a
specific
vendor,
so
on
the
web
page,
which
we'll
go
through
in
a
little
bit
the
we
would
list
similar
to
what
san
jose
does
the
vendor.
That's
that's
marketing
their
pre-approved
plans
as
as
well
as
a
link
to
their
to
the
web
to
the
web
page
and
whatnot.
So
what
qualifies
as
a
pre-approved
adu?
E
Okay?
Is
there
any
to
use
an
attach,
adus
and
conversion?
What
where
can
I
do
it?
Can
I
be
a
hillside
home?
Can
I
be
a
home
next
to
a
creek
or
in
the
valley,
so
pre-approved
use
aren't
throughout
the
whole
city.
You
have
to
live
in
a
certain
zoning
destination
within
a
certain
geological
zone
and
it
can't
be
any
other
type
of
adu,
except
for
detached
streamlined
adus,
which
essentially
means
an
adu
that
is
under
as
detached
and
is
under
800
square
feet.
E
F
E
E
E
If
those
plans
are
approved,
the
vendor
in
designer
lists
on
cs
web
page
and
the
pre
the
approved
design
is,
is
kept
in
a
file.
Typically,
a
building
permit
file
the
qualified
homeowners
work
with
the
approved
vendor
to
submit
the
site-specific
bill
permit
and
from
there
the
building
permanent
application
is
reviewed
for
compliance
with
zoning
related
issues.
F
E
E
Then
we
have
the
widget
over
here
that
the
accordion
excuse
me
that
describes
a
process
to
the
homeowner
once
they
find
event
they
like
what
do
they
have
to
do
or
how
do
they
choose
a
vendor
but,
most
importantly,
does
their
property
qualify.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
I
pick
two
addresses
in
the
city
at
random
to
go
through.
If
it's
your
house
or
someone
and
at
home
I
apologize.
So
if
you
don't
mind
I'll,
go
through
and
type
in,
a
few
addresses
right
here.
F
E
Information,
so
you
can
see
the
status
comes
us.
It
would
say
this
property
make
qualify
for
pre-approved
adu,
so
whether
they
qualify
they
may
qualify
or
might
not
qualify.
We
always
encourage
the
homeowner
or
res
homeowner,
resident
or
applicant
to
speak
with
city
staff
and
over
here
it
shows
the
zoning,
the
property,
as
well
as
the.
E
So
we
can
see
that
zoning,
a
hillside
zone
and
the
geologic
hazard
zone
is
a
slope
instability,
so
this
last
widget
is
a
pre-approved
vendors,
as
you
don't
have
any
vendors.
Yet
we
did
have
a
question
from
the
community
as
to
well
how
come
sounds
like
has
all
these
vendors
and
we
don't
yet.
The
reason
is
because
our
web
page
is
really
a
soft
opening.
At
this
point,
we
didn't
want
to
do
a
hard
staff.
E
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
as
well
was
developed
community
handouts
that
are
on
our
adu
web
page
as
well.
One
is
talks.
The
first
hand
on
the
on
your
left
over
here
is
a
just
an
information
sheet.
That
kind
of
just
goes
through
any
frequently
asked
questions
on
the
other
side,
as
well
as
the
development.
E
E
E
E
So
I
decided
to
just
do
an
analysis
of
2020
to
2021
in
terms
of
what's
been
permitted,
just
to
show
how
successful
or
or
what
the
trends
are
within
the
city
in
terms
of
adus.
I
I
only
chose
a
couple
years
because
that,
since
2020
is
really
when
the
the
state
had
that
big
push
to
to
have
more
lenient
standards
for
those
development
of
these
types
of
housing
units,
as
you
see,
we
haven't
permitted
any
jdus.
Yet
we
have
permitted
15
detached
adus
with
an
average
size
of
652
square
feet.
E
G
G
Then
again,
because
of
what
the
governor
did
last
thursday
signing
sb9
and
sb10
everything
has
just
gotten
even
more
murky.
I
I
have
questions,
I'm
glad
that
the
city
is
taking
a
responsible,
measured
approach
to
the
adus,
because
I
understand
they
are
state
law,
but
this
is
recent.
There's
a
lot
of
questions
about
them.
G
I
have
made
a
point
of
following
all
of
the
staff
members
presentations
on
the
adus
through
planning,
commission
city
council
workshops
et
cetera,
and
I
am
very
pleased
that
the
city
is
taking
a
responsible
approach
and
understanding
that
this
is
both
a
neighborhood
issue,
neighbor
issue
and
then
choices
of
homeowners
I
just
had.
I
will
say
that
I
did
see
a
two-story
adu
in
next
to
santa
cruz
yacht
harbor
about
a
week
ago,
and
it
is
in
a
tsunami
zone.
G
I
think
those
are
legal
in
santa
cruz,
but
anyway
I
like
your
webpage.
I've
been
looking
at
it.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
in
terms
of
where
are
we
with
the
four
foot
setback
from
is?
Does
that
mean
from
the
front
of
the
property
from
both
sides
and
the
back?
Do
we?
It
might
be
good
to
develop
a
handout
sheet
for
neighbors
so
that
if
they
found
out
that
someone
next
door
to
them
was
putting
in
an
adu,
these
are
things
that
they
might
need
to.
G
Consider
I
mean
my
first
thought
would
be.
I
would
go
out
and
hire
a
surveyor,
because
I
would
have
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
boundaries
are
set
correctly.
I
also
have
two
pg
e
clearance
lines
across
two
parts
of
the
property.
I
I
think
that
that's
important
to
think
about
is
this.
Forefoot
setback.
Is
that
something
that
will
change
eventually,
I'm
not
a
real
big
fan
of
it,
because
you
could
burn
down
the
entire
neighborhood
very
very
quickly.
G
Are
we
requiring
them
to
leave
a
pad
for
people
to
be
parking,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
out
on
the
road
and
then
can
you
allow
these
people
when
they
put
the
adu
in
to
bring
in
a
boom
crane
and
go
over
people's
properties
and
drop
this
unit
in
a
backyard
so
that
you'd
have
cranes
dropping
it?
Some
of
the
adu
websites
talk
about
bringing
in
a
boom
and
they
can
drop
the
unit
in.
I
would
have
some
reservations
about
that.
G
A
E
H
H
E
So
I
think
more
than
a
cost,
I
I
think
it's
a
time
measure
you
know
in
you
know
in
in
discussions
with
our
our
building
department
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
city
of
san
jose's
building
department,
too
most
comments
on
on
adu
are
really
just
really
any
structural
plans,
but
mostly
just
focused
on
adus
come
from
the
building
department,
and
you
know
rarely
does,
does
an
application
for
building
permit
get
approved
in
the
first
round,
at
least
for
an
adu.
E
If
it's,
if
it's
you
know,
there's
always
two
rounds,
sometimes
even
three,
maybe
even
four,
it
depends
on
the
design
you
get.
You
know
they
missed
something
on
structural.
They
missed
a
code
step
here.
You
know,
maybe
didn't
put
a
firewall
where
they're
supposed
to
so
what
this
does
is
take
away
that
step.
You
know.
The
first
round
is
always
three
weeks
at
least
three
weeks
and
then
the
second
round
is
ten
business
days
and
it
supposed
to
get
shorter
each
time.
So
that's
just
so,
since
you
would.
H
I
E
H
Okay
and
then
question
is
I
thank
you
for
finally
getting
this.
I
think
I
suggested
this
to
deb.
A
year
ago,
when
I
saw
san
jose,
who
was
doing
this
pre-approved
adu,
so
I
suggested
to
deb.
We
should
also
provide
that
I'm
glad
that
it's
finally
come
up,
but
then
you
are
saying
we
not
set
up
a
process,
but
we
don't
have
any
vendors
yet
do
you
know
how
many
vendors,
somehow
they
have,
and
how
different
our
process
is?
Is
it
likely
substantially
similar
to
san
jose?
H
E
So
pretty
much
very
similar,
you
know
it's
almost,
I
wouldn't
say
it's
a
carbon
copy,
but
we
we
try
to
make
it
it's.
We
didn't
try
to
reinvent
the
wheel
in
in
many
aspects
of
what
san
jose
they
seem
very
happy
with
it,
and
the
vendors
I've
talked
to
who
also
have
their
apple.
Their
pre-approved
plans
with
the
city
of
san
jose
are
very
happy
with
their
process
as
well.
To
answer
your
question:
how
many
vendors
do
they
have?
H
H
H
J
J
The
delay
is
for
because
we
just
don't
have
time
to
do
it
or
I
would
believe,
adu
right
now,
because
it
does
come
toward
our
housing
element.
So
it
will
be
a
very
welcoming
feature
for
our
residents
and
I
look
into
san
jose's
website
and
they
do
have
quite
a
few
adus,
that's
pre-approved
available.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
this
process.
My
one
question
that
left
that
vice
mayor
has
been
asking
is:
how
long
do
you
think
this
process
would
be
like?
We
would
have
pre-approved
adus
vendors
on
our
website.
E
Well,
my
expectations
within
the
next
couple
weeks
to
really
start
pushing
out
notice
that
that
we
have
that,
I
know
maybe
press
release,
at
least
for
the
next
couple
days
to
the
public
that
we
have
this,
that
we
have
this
program
and
then
start.
You
know
I
in
great
question,
because
I
was
talking
to
our
building
interim
building
official
today
about
what
what
ways
we
can
do
to
reach
out.
E
So
I
I
think
it
could
be
fairly
quickly.
You
know,
when
can
we
start
listing
them?
You
know
they
still
have
to
those
vendors
once
they
apply
still
have
to
go
through
the
vetting
process
and
whatever
else
too,
and
so
that's
so
I
would
think
a
couple
months
before.
Maybe
we
see-
and
you
know,
I'm
being
that's
a
pretty
conservative
number
just
just
a
temper
expectations
before
we
see
a
vendor
listed.
J
E
Correct
yeah-
and
you
know
I
know
the
right
one
of
the
residents
talked
about.
You
know
boundary
surveys.
You
know
we,
you
know
we
do
require
boundary
survey
for
for
any
additional
in
any
additional
square
feet.
We've
got
80
or
even
additional
room
to
a
single
family
home,
and
for
that
reason
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
that
those
buildings
are
in
the
right
spot.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
make
sure
that
in
any
required,
easements
for
utilities
or
even
drainage,
easements
and
whatnot
too.
E
So,
yes-
and
you
know
they're
still,
city
standards-
and
you
know
the
city
has
always
taken
a
very
liberal
approach
to
adus.
You
know
it
says:
adu's
could
have
always
been
as
close
as
three
feet:
the
property
line
you
know,
depending
on
the
wall
height.
So
I
I'm
gonna
answer
your
question:
council,
member.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
K
K
K
E
So
it's
a
great
question.
I
think,
that's
that
you
know
and
that's
one
of
the
concerns
most
people
have
you
know,
are
they
usually
turned
to
verbose
or
airbnb,
short-term,
rentals
and
whatnot?
So
the
state,
specifically
it's
a
statute
that
you
you
can't
use
these
for
for
rentals
less
than
30
days.
So
you
know
any
rental
would
have
to
be
over
30
days.
You
know
I
I
don't
have
statistics
about
how
many
are
rented.
What
not?
I
could
just
tell
you
anecdotally
what
we
hear.
E
You
know
my
oh
my
mother's
coming
from
overseas,
and
you
know
we
just
want
to
have
a
place
for
her
to
live,
or
you
know
my
children
can't
just
graduate
college
and
they
have
a
job
at
apple,
but
they
can't
afford
they
can't
afford
an
apartment.
So
I
want
to
give
them
the
opportunity
to
live
at
home
but
have
their
own
independence.
So
those
are
the
stories
we
hear,
but
you
know
any
any
data
on
how
many
are
rented
rather
than
owner-occupied
staff.
This
is
great.
E
The
quick
answer
is
yes,
so
what
the
state
has
said
a
year
and
a
half
or
so
ago
was
that
local
jurisdictions
cannot
prevent
the
development
of
adus
up
to
800
square
feet.
If
it's
801
square
feet,
then
all
bets
are
off.
Then
yes,
you're,
subject
to
far
lot
coverage
any
other
standard
we
have.
However,
if
it's
under
800
square
feet
or
under
we
cannot
they.
You
know
they
can
have
50
far
as
opposed
to
what's.
K
Okay,
so
with
that
being
said,
you
know
in
the
past,
residents
have
have
worried
about
parking
again
in
rancho,
where
the
lots
of
5000
square
feet,
the
frontage
is
50..
If
you
take
a
50-foot
frontage,
a
20
foot
wide
garage,
then
you're
and
then
you've
got
10
feet
on
one
side
for
garbage
cans
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
that
leaves
essentially
enough
room
to
park
one.
K
Maybe
one
and
a
half
cars
now
larger
lots.
Typical
city
lots,
6
500
square
feet,
7
000
square
feet
where
the
frontage
is
65
or
70
feet.
You'd
have
room
for
clearly
like
two
cars,
one
of
those
maybe
being
for
the
adu.
Maybe
both
of
them.
Is
there
any
consideration
in
the
adu
requirements
on
lock,
frontage
width
that
might
help
alleviate
or
address
parking
problems.
K
Okay
kind
of
a
unique
case,
but
you
know
when
a
resident
asks.
I
think
we
should
at
least
check
if
it
was
a
prefab
and
they
were
using
a
crane
to
move
it
in.
Are
they
allowed
to
go
over
a
neighbor's
house
or
must
it
be
over
their
their
house?
Would
it
ever
fall
and
crash?
Probably
the
odds
are
way
against
it,
but
that
doesn't
really
make
people
sleep
good
at
night
it.
What,
if
anything,
do
we
know
about
that.
E
K
That's
fine,
so
let
me
go
real
quick
on
the
last
one.
So
if
somebody
builds
a
house
the
city
requirement,
unless
it's
been
changed,
they
must
have
a
400
square
foot
garage
and
then
on
your
you
know,
if
that's
still,
in
effect,
that's
probably
one
question
providing
it's
still.
In
effect,
you
mentioned
that
some
of
the
adu
10
of
them
were
garage
conversions.
K
A
L
It
mentioned
single
family
and,
in
my
opinion,
we
no
longer
actually
technically
have
single
family
zoning
in
state
and
I'm
kind
of
wondering
I
I
one
thing
I
don't
know
about,
sb9
is:
does
it
sunset
and
and
if
not,
should
we
be
changing
our
single
family
titles
to
be
saying
like
one
to
four?
If,
if
it's
one
to
four
units,
if
that's
what
single
family
means
at
this
point,
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
about
that.
I
I
asked
a
question
of
the
attorney
about
sb9
and
the
use
of
adus.
L
If,
if
we
could
have
that
clarified
for
for
the
public
at
large,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
Looking
at
the
table,
19
112
030a
from
the
municipal
code
for
new
construction
for
detached
adu
of
800
square
feet.
I
just
want
to
clarify
this.
I'm
seeing
that
the
setbacks
are
four
feet
from
the
rear
and
side
lot
lines
and
the
height
is
16
feet.
I
I
want
that
clarified.
Is
that
16
feet
maximum,
I'm
assuming
it
is,
but
I
it's
not
clear
here.
L
So
maybe
this
could
be
actually
cleaned
up
in
the
municipal
code
to
say
max.
If
that's
what
the
intention
was
so
with
that
with
regards
to
the
16
feet
that
wouldn't
matter
if
the
next
door
neighbor
had
a
retaining
wall,
it
was
down
three
four
feet
and
the
the
neighbor
to
the
rear
could
actually
put
something
16
feet,
high
four
feet
away
from
the
property
line
and
actually
cast
cast
a
good
bit
of
shadow
to
to
the
backyard
for,
especially
for
some
of
these
smaller
lots.
L
If
I'm
understanding
that
correctly
and
lastly,
with
regards
to
the
four
feet
our
eaves
included
within
that,
are
they
allowed
to
extend
into
the
four
feet
or
must
the
eaves
be
stopped
at
the
forefoot
line,
because
the
these
older
iclers
that
we
have
our
eaves
are
within
the
five
foot
side
yard
all
right?
I'll
start
with
that.
Thank
you.
M
E
Perfect,
so
thank
you,
councilmember
moore
I'll
start
backwards.
So,
yes,
the
16
feet
is
the
height
maximum
and
you
know
if,
if
it
does
help,
I
would
take
that
recommendation
and
consideration
to
add
the
word
maximum
on
top
of
that,
and
as
long
as
they
are
four
feet
from
the
property,
the
side
are
rear
properly,
and
then
you
have
the
16
foot
wall
right
there.
E
Unless
they
want
to
go
as
close
as
three,
then
you
know
our
standards
in
19100
which,
which
is
which
are
our
accessory
building
standards.
Then
we
can
dictate
the
height
the
wall
height
if
they
get
if
they
want
to
go
closer
than
four
feet
in
terms
of
the
eve
area.
I
I
understand,
I
know
exactly
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
iclear
and
mid-century
modern
design
homes.
They
do
have
quite
a
bit
of
of
eaves
and
they
do
encroach
into
the
did
a
setback.
E
L
So
well
it's
my
understanding
and
thank
you,
john
it's
my
understanding.
Then
you
can
have
a
two
foot
encroachment
on
the
16
foot,
so
my
concern
with
that
is,
if
you
have
a
shed
design-
and
it's
sloping
up
it's
actually
now,
it
could
end
up
being
over
16,
the
the
top
of
the
eaves
at
that
point.
So
that's
now
a
three,
a
two
foot
step
back
and
it's
going
to
be
depending
on
how
steep
this
the
shed
roof
is.
E
A
that's,
a
good
point
very
x
is
existential
that
we
have
to
consider.
I
would
say
that
you
know
architectural
features
can
can
go
above
the
height.
You
know.
In
this
case
I
would
say
you
know
one
to
two
foot
would
be
reasonable,
but
that
is
something
I
I
we
could
clarify
if
you
think
on
a
on
a
handout
for
adus,
particularly
if
it's
you
know
that
close
to
the
property
line.
L
So
I
would
personally
like
to
see
if
there's
a
way
we
can
anonymously
get
people
to
state
what
the
use
is
afterwards.
So
we
can
get
some
data
to
see
if
this
is
actually
solving
the
housing
issue
or
are
we
just?
You
know
happy
to
be
able
to
check
off
some
boxes?
That
say,
moderate
units
were
being
built,
but
but
the
reality
is
there.
You
know
twenty
percent
of
those
are
pool
houses.
L
Fifteen
percent
are
home
offices,
workshops,
vacation
places
for
their
relatives
to
come,
hang
out
and
and
whatnot
I'd
like
to
know
after
a
couple
years.
What's
what
the
reality
is?
So
we
know
if
this
is
working
or
not,
and
I
and
I
don't
want
people
to
feel
like
they're
being
penalized.
If
that's
if
that
was
the
ultimate
purpose,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
the
data.
E
M
It
also
allows
any
single
family
residential
lot
to
be
split
into
two
lots
again
subject
to
largely
overlapping
qualifying
criteria.
So
you,
if
you
exercise
both
of
those
options
for
ministerial
approval,
you
can
develop
up
to
four
units
on
what
was
you
know
originally
one
single-family
residential
lot.
M
If,
if,
as
a
multi-family
property,
you
would
ordinarily
have
the
option
to
add
one
adu
to
both
of
those
lots,
however,
sb9
includes
a
provision
that
that
that
states
that
local
jurisdictions
are
not
required
to
both
allow
the
development
of
of
four
units
in
this
matter.
Using
you
know
both
of
the
ministerial
approval
authorities
under
sb9
and
also
allow
required
ministerial
approval
of
the
adus.
So
you
can
you
can
limit
the
construction
of
adus.
If
someone
chooses
to
construct
four
units
on
a
formerly
single
fam,
one
formal
single
family
lot.
L
M
L
A
A
Okay
got
it
so
it
does
apply
to
the
sides
in
in
the
back,
but
not
the
front
and
the
front
is
a
20
foot
set
back.
You
said
john,
yes,
okay
and
then
there
was
a
question
about
developing
a
handout
sheet.
Is
there
any
kind
of
useful
reference
source
that
we
have
available
on
the
website
or
are
planning
to
push
out
there.
E
A
E
I
think
councilmember
willie
brought
that
brought
that
back
up,
and
you
know
I
in
what
my
my
response
was.
I
think
I
know
the
answer
but
I'll
you
know,
since
it
is
a
public
works
item,
it's
it's
their
permit
issue.
I
I
think
it
would
be
best
for
some
of
the
public
works
to
respond
to
that.
If
someone's
available,
you
know,
my
thought
is
probably
not
over
someone
else's
property,
but
you
know,
I
think,
to
be
100
percent.
You.
E
A
It
got
it
okay,
so,
following
up
on
a
question
that
was
asked
by
another
one
of
the
council
members,
so
can
we
elaborate
a
bit
more
on
denial
authority
because
I
understand
their
understanding
of
the
kind
of
the
inherent
you
know.
Nature
of
of
an
approval
process
is
that
on
the
flip
side
of
approval,
is
you
know
not
not
approving,
so
what
exactly
would
need
to
be
changed
about
our
ordinance
or
zoning
in
order
to
impart
that
you
know
flip
side
of
the
approval
ability.
M
So
the
the
the
zoning
ordinance
would
need
to
incorporate
the
language
in
sb9
that
authorizes
a
city
to
to
to
to
deny
an
adu
application
that
would
otherwise
be
ministerially,
ministerially
approved
under
state
adu
law,
in
a
situation
where
you
wind
up
with
effectively
four
units
on
a
single
family
lot
due
to
a
lot
split
and
then
subsequent
approval
of
duplexes
on
both
laws.
So
there's
their
specific
language
in
sb9
that
reserves
that
paul
that
that
that
power
to
cities.
A
A
Got
it
yeah
I
mean
so:
we've
we've
done
a
much
better
job,
keeping
up
to
date
on
state
legislation
in
the
last.
You
know
several
years
and
I
think
that
weeks
do
matter
at
this
point,
so
you
know
if
there
are
allowances,
I
don't
want
to
wait
three
weeks
and
you
know
be
falsely
accused
of
trying
to
push
these
things
through
at
the
last
minute.
It
is
the
end
of
september
right
now,
so
we
would
accurately
if
we
were
to
wait
a
month.
A
Okay,
so
I
see
councilmember
moore's
hands
up.
Let
me
check
the
time
here,
so
we
have
about
20
minutes.
I
can
go
ahead
and
allocate
another
another
few
minutes
to
each
of
us.
If
we
decide
to
use
that
for
follow-up
comments,
council
member
willie,
followed
by
councilmember
moore,
seems
to
have
been
musical
hands
at
this
point.
So.
K
Yeah
it'll
be
fairly
quick
again,
I
I
want
to
be
sure
the
adjacent
neighbors
you
know
have
have
an
ability
to
know
what's
going
on.
So
what
I
want
to
ask
is
that
you
know
previously
and
unless
the
city
has
changed
its
rule,
if
a
house
added
a
second
story,
there
needed
to
be
a
review
with
the
planning
commission
and
the
neighbors
notified
so
that
they
could
at
least
have
some
input.
K
K
E
You
know
typically
ministerial
approvals
like
this.
Don't
don't
have
noticing
requirements.
You
are
correct,
it's
still
the
case
with
two-story
homes,
because
those
are
more
of
discretionary
or
quasi
I'm
using
the
wrong
term.
Chris
quasi
judicial
review.
You
know
where
the
staff
does
have
discretion
on
design
and
whatnot.
So
you
know
two-story
homes
second-story
editions.
E
M
L
L
Is
it
possible
that
we
can
add
the
wildland
urban
interface
or
or
is
there
a
good
reason
for
why
we
don't
have
that?
That's
one
question.
The
second
one
is
looking
at
some
of
these
dry
cleaner
sites
which
have
contaminated
onto
residential
areas
and
apparently
about
70.
75
percent
of
dry
cleaners
have
had
some
some
contamination
of
the
the
soil.
What
do
you?
L
Is
there
anything
that
that
can
be
done
about
that
in
order
to
not
agree
to
a
ministerial
approval
and-
and
I'm
looking
at
an
example,
you
know
in
my
hands
of
residences,
which
have
been
contaminated
by
a
dry
cleaner,
and
I
would
not
want
that
city
to
ministerially
approve
the
lot
split
and
the
densification
of
that
law
without
having
it
cleaned
up
for
to
for
residential
standards.
Because
of
the
potential
for
soil,
vapor
intrusion
into
the
new
structure.
Is
there?
Is
there
anything
that
can
be
done
about
that?
E
Sure
I'll
I'll
take
the
first
question.
First
yeah
we
we
could
look
into
adding
the
wirelife
interface
areas
as
one
of
the
ones
that
aren't
consistent
with
the
city
of
san
jose
that
aren't
qual.
They
don't
qualify
for
for
pre-approved
adu
structures.
You
know
for
us
most
of
most
of
those
zones
are
in
the
hillside,
any
anyways,
so
they're
already
excluded
in
a
way,
but
we
could
add
that
I
think
that's
a
fair,
that's
a
fair
request.
The
second
part,
I'm
thinking
to
add.
M
I
could
address
this
john,
it's
sure
sure
so
so
so
I
mean
to
the
extent
that
it's
a
question
about
lot
splits
per
se.
I
am
I'm
just
going
to
respectfully
defer
that
to
a
future
discussion,
because
it's
it's
not
agendas,
I'm
sure
we
will
be
talking
about
it
in
the
future.
To
the
question.
The
question
is
about
adu
construction.
M
The
state
adu
law
doesn't
require
environmental
review
and
I
think
the
thinking
is
that
there's
either
an
existing
residential
property
with
with
people
living
in
it
already
or
there
could
be
environmental
review
within,
like
you
know,
for
example,
within
the
construction
with
in
the
context
of
an
adu
built
at
the
same
time
as
the
construction
of
of
a
primary
dwelling
unit
under
a
non-ministerial
process.
But
there
aren't
that
way.
M
H
Hi,
I
have
other
questions,
but
I'd
like
to
first
follow
up
on
council
member
willie
question
about
the
notification.
My
understanding
is
as
long
as
this
objective
standard.
We
should
be
allowed
to
require
notifications,
such
as
we
have
done
for
the
small
cell,
which
is
ministerial
approval.
Also
right.
H
My
thinking
is,
there
are
a
lot
of
state
laws,
that's
turning
the
previously
discretionary
approval
into
ministerial
approval,
with
much
tighter
or
tighter
requirement
and
likely,
for
example,
the
ct
may
be
used
to
require
six
feet,
and
now
the
state
law
allows
four
feet.
Maybe
we
can
say
if
you
want
to
use
four
feet,
you
are
required
to
notify
your
neighbors.
This
gives
the
neighbors
a
chance
to
have
a
conversation.
H
Of
course,
the
homeowner
is,
has
every
right
to
steal,
build
to
the
four
feet
by
line,
but
maybe
with
the
conversation
the
neighbors
could
come
up
with
a
better
compromise
that
provides
them
that
chance.
So
why
couldn't
the
city
still
require
notification
when
on
a
neighbor
wants
to
use
the
state
standards
rather
than
the
normal
city
standards?.
M
So
so
I
think
each
statute
needs
to
be
looked
at
independently.
You
know
here
we're
looking
at
the
state
adu
law,
and
you
know
at
least
with
adus
that
meet
the
minimum
criteria.
You
know
meaning
800
square
feet.
Four
foot
beer
inside
setback,
16
feet
height.
The
state
law
is
extremely
prescriptive
as
to
what
additional
requirements
the
city
can
impose
on
the
adu
development,
and-
and
so
you
know
my
my
review
of
these
questions,
sometime
back,
you
know
in
the
law
hasn't
changed.
M
I
I
think
it
was
pretty
clear
that
we
could
not
impose
notice
requirements
on
on
the
applicant.
The
city
would
still
if
the
city
believes
you
know,
as
a
policy
position,
that
it's
important
that
neighbors
are
notified
of
this
this
of
these
projects,
then
we
could
certainly
provide
no
notice
to
them.
H
Okay,
so
some
cities
do
provide
notification
on
their
own.
Okay,
maybe
that's
something
we
should
consider
and
then
also
notification
for
potential
edition
on
street
parking
when
it's
added,
because
other
neighbors
would
want
to
know
their
own
state
parking
spaces
would
be
effectively
yeah
and
then
my
other
question
is
I'm
I'm.
I
assume
that
the
vendors
when
they
submit
their
plans,
we
are
not
charging
them
any
approval
fee
right.
E
H
E
I
know
within
at
least
I'm
assuming
within
the
next
few
days.
We
should
have
a
press
release,
I
believe,
let
the
residents
know
or
ever
sign
up
to
receive
press
release
that
we've
that
we
have
this
program
as
well,
as
you
know
where
he
probably
probably
could
most
likely
do
an
active
push
for
the
next
two
or
three
weeks.
H
Okay
and
then
coming
back
to
the
concern
another
council
member
raised
that
some
of
these
adus
are
not
used
as
potential
additional
housing
units
as
we
hoped,
but
then
I
do
want
to
know
so.
Are
these
ministry
approved
units
are
they
required
to
have
kitchen
and
restrooms
so
that
they
are
at
least
ready
in
case
someone's?
It.
E
E
H
A
All
right,
thank
you
vice
mayor
ciao,
so
I
hope
that
staff
is
is
listening
to
the
direction
of
the
questions
and
comments
and
has
good
guidance
for
a
follow-up
on
this.
I
appreciate
the
effort
put
forth
here.
I
think
that,
as
can
be
seen
by
production,
you
know
there
are
two
sides
of
every
story
at
least,
and
we've
actually
been.
You
know
accused
recently
of
having
a
very
low
production
of
this
type
of
unit,
but
it
seems
like
this
is
actually
accelerating
based
upon
what
our
initial
projections
were.
A
So
it
will
be
quite
interesting
to
see
how
the
rest
of
the
year
plays
itself
out
as
well
as
the
following
calendar
year.
So
thanks
very
much
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
adjourn
the
special
meeting.
It's
now
6
33,
we'll
reconvene
at
6
45
to
begin
our
regularly
scheduled
council
meeting
for
the
third
tuesday
in
september.
A
A
I'm
here,
okay,
so
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
today
is
a
ceremonial
matter
and
presentation.
Normally,
we
have
two
I've
been
trying
to
limit
these
to
two
this
year
so
that
we
could
get
done
by
midnight,
and
so
the
first
item,
however,
is
of
particular
importance.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
have
good
public
safety
and
outreach,
and
so
we
have
a
proclamation
recognizing
september
as
national
suicide
prevention
month,
and
we
would
like
to
present
the
proclamation
as
a
recommended
action
recognizing
september
as
national
suicide
prevention
month.
A
A
I
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
council
for
issuing
this
important
proclamation
today.
My
name
is
mega
lien.
I
am
the
prevention
services,
division
manager
with
the
county's
behavioral
health
services
department
and
I'm
accepting
this
proclamation
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
county's
suicide
prevention
program,
our
suicide
prevention
oversight
committee
and
especially
on
behalf
of
the
county
residents
who
we
serve,
who
have
been
affected
by
suicide,
either
personally
or
through
the
loss
of
people
that
they
know
due
to
suicide.
I
I
So
proclamations
like
this
really
help
to
make
suicide
prevention
the
priority
that
it
should
be
in
spite
of
our
efforts
that
have
been
you
know,
collective
and
sustained
over
years.
Suicides
in
the
county
have
increased
in
the
past
three
years
and
the
coven
19
pandemic
has
really
brought
into
sharp
focus.
How
much
our
mental,
health
and
well-being
are
impacted
by
things
like
social
connection,
our
physical
health
and
economic
stability
and
sadly,
last
year,
164
county
residents
died
by
suicide.
I
So
it's
clear
that
suicides
can
be
prevented
and
it
really
needs
to
be
a
community-wide
effort.
The
council's
proclamation
today
is
significant
in
this
effort,
because
it
will
help
to
raise
awareness
and
fight
the
stigma
around
mental
health
and
suicide.
So
again
on
behalf
of
the
county's
suicide
prevention
advocates
and
the
individuals
and
families
we
serve.
I
want
to
thank
you
and
the
city
staff
for
your
initiative
today.
A
N
O
P
Good
evening,
council
and
mayor
paul,
I
was
going
to
wait.
This
is
an
agenda's
item
correct
the
suicide.
I
could
speak
at
about
it
at
that
time
rather
than
this.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
extending
the
the
courtesy
I
mean
this
is
just
I've
really
not
used
to
this
much
courtesy
with
respect
to
city
government,
so
I
really
appreciate
that
I'll
speak
on
it
at
the
appropriate
time.
Thank
you.
A
Q
A
A
A
A
So
let's
go
on
to
item
number
two,
that's
another
ceremonial
matter,
that
is
a
proclamation
recognizing
september
21st
as
world
alzheimer's
day,
and
the
recommended
action
is
similarly
to
present
the
proclamation
recognizing
september
21st
as
world
alzheimer's
day.
I
want
to
thank
diana
miller
from
the
county
as
well,
who
has
been
very
patient
with
me
personally.
A
She
had
initially
asked
me
to
sign
on
to
something
that
literally
only
takes
five
to
ten
minutes,
and
you
know
I
I'm
very
sugar
in
to
report
that
I
have
not
done
that
yet,
but
I
will
commit
to
doing
that
and
I
will
commit
to
asking
our
counsel
to
do
the
very
same
so
that
we
can
have
a
full
spectrum,
support
of
recognition
of
mental
mental
health
issues
and
mental
support.
So
this
is
a
proclamation
for
world
alzheimer's
day
and
diana.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words
with
regard
to
the
proclamation.
A
We
have
a
staff
member
cherie
walkoviac
who
coordinates
the
contest
for
for
for
cupertino
as
well
as
coordinates
the
safe
routes
to
school
program,
and
I
know
you're
very
busy,
coordinating
our
our
bike
fest
that
will
take
place
this
weekend,
so
welcome
sheree.
I
understand
that
you
have
some
summary
of
the
contest,
as
well
as
a
couple
of
videos
to
share
with
us
here.
R
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
so
this
past
spring
cupertino
state
round
statistical
hosted
a
student
video
contest
for
both
middle
and
high
school
students
that
centered
around
alternative
transportation,
which
includes
active
modes
such
as
walking
biking
and
scootering,
in
addition
to
taking
carpool
or
public
transit,
the
idea
being
that
for
every
student
who
gets
to
school
using
an
alternative
mode.
That
means
one
less
car
on
a
road
which
has
multiple
benefits.
R
So
all
of
the
submissions
that
we
received
fell
into
the
inspirational
category,
and
within
that
category
there
were
two
winners,
one
at
the
middle
school
level
and
one
and
two
winning
videos.
I
should
say
one
at
the
middle
school
level
and
one
at
the
high
school
level.
So
the
winning
middle
school
video
was
entitled
safe
routes
to
school
animation
and
it
was
created
by
a
kennedy
middle
school
student
who
was
a
middle
school
student
at
the
time
I
believe,
they've
moved
on
now.
S
There
are
other
alternatives
that
provide
safer
and
healthier
options
for
going
to
school
methods
like
walking
or
biking,
enables
children
to
incorporate
regular
physical
activity
and
build
strong
muscles
and
joints.
There
are
also
cognitive
benefits
to
walking
or
biking
to
school
students
who
walk
or
bike
in
the
morning
are
more
attentive
and
ready
to
learn
when
they
arrive
at
school.
It
also
improves
memory,
skills
and
brain
health.
S
R
T
T
U
A
A
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
and
so
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
item.
Now
we
are
at
oral
communications.
Oral
communications
is
to
speak
on
any
item
that
is
not
on
our
agenda
tonight
and
so
once
you
are
done
speaking
for
once,
the
first
speaker
is
done
speaking.
I
should
say:
you'll
need
to
have
your
hand
up
by
that
time
in
order
to
be
called
on.
G
I
I
was
very
surprised
that
our
governor,
with
all
of
his
experience,
would
have
signed
two
bills
like
this
that
are
so
poorly
written
that
there
has
been
tremendous
amounts
of
debate.
What
these
two
bills
mean.
I
believe
that
both
of
them
are
unconstitutional,
particularly
sb10,
which
is
taking
it,
which
is
essentially
messing
with
california's
voters,
rights
to
have
local
initiatives.
G
I
I
think
the
governor
has
little
practical
land
use
experience
and
he
was
advised
very
poorly
about
the
ramifications
of
sb9
and
sb10.
You
cannot
do
a
ministerial
lot
split,
it
is
illegal.
You
have
to
have
people
come
out
surveyors
a
lot.
The
lot
lines
have
to
be
surveyed
and
they
have
to
be
recorded
indeed
with
the
county.
G
I
am,
I'm
frankly,
appalled
at
some
of
the
level
of
confusion
that
these
bills
have
rolled
out
on
the
state
and
the
cities
and
they
become
active
on
january
1st,
I
would
beg,
I
would
think
right
now.
75
percent
of
the
people
in
california
are
not
aware
we
are
trying
to
get
the
word
out.
This
has
happened
in
oregon.
A
lot
of
people
in
oregon
are
not
aware
that
a
law
was
put
in
a
year
ago.
That
allows
the
same
thing.
This
is
not
the
way
to
conduct
yourself
as
a
governor
in
this
state.
G
I
think
that
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
time
and
money
on
the
city's
parts,
a
lot
of
confusion.
We
look
at
the
questions
that
were
asked
in
about
the
adus.
This
affects
the
adus.
This
affects
reyna.
It's
everything,
it's
loss
of
local
control.
I
I
doubt
at
this
point
that
gavin
will
be
fit
to
go
on
to
become
president.
He
is
does
not
have
my
vote
for
that.
G
A
W
Thank
you
so
just
to
piggyback
on
jennifer,
the
initiative
which
is
in
the
works
has
been
submitted
to
the
state
is
statewide,
there's
no
guarantee
it
will
be
on
the
ballot
next
november.
We
need
people
to
sign
it
in
order
to
make
that
happen.
So
please
keep
that
in
mind
and
and
start
asking
questions.
W
So
there
was
a
very
recent
city
council
meeting
that
spoke
about
abuse.
I
was
unable
to
attend
the
entire
thing,
but
what
I
did
take
from
it.
I
I
have
a
couple
follow-up
questions.
There
were
some
excellent
questions
asked
by
council
members,
but
I
have
some
more
to
just
be
considered
in
the
future.
I
know
nothing
can
be
done
tonight.
W
P
Thank
you,
member.
Thank
you,
mary
and
members
of
the
council.
My
name
is
paul
soto.
I
am
a
I'm.
The
son
of
a
campasino,
my
father
and
mother,
got
here
in
1938
and
they
they
lived
in
a
neighborhood
called
sassy
puedes,
and
that
was
on
the
east
side
of
san
jose.
In
fact,
john
steinbeck
had
visited
the
area
in
1938
and
he
wrote
a
he
wrote
an
essay
and
it's
called
starvation
under
the
orange
tree,
and
I
would
center
my
my
comment
on
that
document.
P
P
I
grew
up
in
a
redlined
area,
and
so
I
I
know
very
clearly
what
happens
and
how
the
wealth
concentration
happens
at
the
expense,
at
the
very
same
time
at
the
expense
of
another
group
of
people,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
that
I
think
that
it
would
be
helpful
and
that's
why
I'm
here
I
don't
get
paid.
I
don't
come.
I
come
here
as
a
as
a
as
a
as
a
sixth
generation
citizen
of
santa
clara
county,
whose
family
literally
built
this
city
with
their
bodies.
P
There
was
three
movements
that
were
spawned
from
sussex
by
this
little
little:
neighborhood,
the
farmworkers
movement,
the
lowrider
movement
and
the
chicano
movement.
All
three
of
the
most,
some
of
the
most
powerful
mexican
american
movements
of
the
20th
century
have
their
roots
in
that
body,
and
so,
like.
I
said,
I
avail
myself
to
to
the
to
the
city
of
cupertino
to
at
least
help,
maybe
just
gain
some
understanding,
maybe
not
agreement,
but
that
you
understand
why.
P
A
Q
Thank
you
and
the
mayor
and
council
member
and
the
guest
and
the
residents-
and
this
is
just
a
little
update
and
because
we
want
thanks
for
your
all,
your
constant
understanding
and
the
help,
and
we
recently
tried
for
the
little
pre-structure
in
the
back.
We
just
trying
to
not
give
have
any
confusion.
We
spend
the
past
the
one
the
reason
played
torn
down
permit
and
this
permit.
Q
Q
Whatever
out
there,
I
mean
front
to
back,
you
guys
see
a
picture
before
a
lot
in
the
city.
Nobody
cares
and
this
one
you
know,
delivery
actually
was
a
miniature
little
placings
and
you
can't
live
there.
This
is
so
small
and
there
was
not
even
them.
Adult
heights
required
to
can
walk
around
so
really
have
no
very
much
use
and
there,
and
we
actually
played
so
much
like
people
have
like
a
bigger.
N
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
paul
and
council
members.
My
name
is
mary
and
I've
been
a
resident
of
cupertino
for
almost
30
years.
I've
heard
that
council
members
of
some
cities,
don't
think
guns,
are
an
issue
in
their
community.
Perhaps
they
believe
that
the
scary
events
that
we
hear
about
on
the
news
only
happen
in
other
communities,
but
we
know
now.
This
is
not
true
for
cupertino.
N
Last
week
a
child
brought
an
unserialized
semi-automatic
firearm
to
homestead
high
school.
This
was
an
extremely
close
call.
Our
city
could
have
been
the
next
mass
school
shooting
and
saying.
This
is
not
stretching
the
truth
too
far.
So
what
should
be
our
response?
We
must
take
reasonable
steps
to
protect
our
community.
We
should
not
look
the
other
way
and
pretend
that
scary
firearm
incidents
don't
or
can't
happen
here.
N
Safe,
firearm
storage
has
been
associated
with
reduced
accidental
firearm
injury,
reduced
suicides
and
homicides,
reduced
firearm
theft
and
reduced
mass
shootings.
A
safe
firearm
storage
ordinance
simply
requires
firearm
or
owners
to
store
their
firearms
in
a
locked,
safe
or
with
a
locking
device
so
that
unauthorized
persons
do
not
have
access.
N
Let's
join
our
neighboring
cities
just
this
month,
palo
alto,
los
altos
hills
and
los
altos
brought
to
nine
the
total
number
of
cities
in
santa
clara
county
with
safe
storage
of
firearms
ordinances.
Our
county
is
catching
up
to
the
13
in
san
mateo
county.
Let's
pass
a
safe
firearm
storage
ordinance
to
protect
our
cupadine
of
communities.
N
X
I
have
forwarded
my
presentation
and
findings
to
the
ct
and
requested
it
to
be
put
on
the
agenda
to
have
that
discussion,
but
I
wasn't
able
to
get
it
on
the
agenda
so
I'll
just
pick
out.
Those
three
major
discrepancies
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
one
is
cupertino
is
the
only
city
which
differentiate
point
of
origin
and
receiving
land
uses.
X
This
makes
things
very
tricky
example.
Even
if
the
distance
between
residential
property
and
commercial
property
is
just
a
few
inches
just
because
the
noise
point
of
origin
is
commercial,
the
enforcement
officer
has
to
use
higher
noise
level
65
and
55
dba
for
day
and
night
respectively.
This
is
unfair
to
the
residents.
Imagine
if
54
dba
level
during
night
hours
coming
from
west
side
of
commercial
property
and
just
which
is
just
a
few
inches
away
from
the
residential
property,
but
that
doesn't
violate
ordinance.
X
However,
if
the
same
noise
level
made
from
the
units
at
the
same
distance
on
the
east
side,
then
it
violates
the
ordinance
violation.
So
so
this
is,
this
is
the
only
cupertino
is
the
only
city
which
differentiate
origin
and
receiving
all
other
cities.
Are
you
only
use
receiving,
and
I
put
all
the
evidence
and
links
on
the
my
presentation
that
I
forwarded
to
city
manager
and
city
clerk,
and
I
believe
it's
been
forwarded
to
mayor
as
well.
The
the
second
or
discrepancy
is
the
cnc
ordinance
doesn't
factor
in
the
distance
between
two
properties.
X
It
treats
same
noise
standards
if
commercial
property
just
two
feet
away
or
50
feet
away.
The
third
discrepancy
is
other
city
ordinances,
set
noise
level,
violation
for
continuous
noise
at
much
lower
level,
around
45
dba
than
for
the
intermittent
noise.
So
if
the
impact
of
noise
is
is
not
just
on
the
ears,
it's
beyond
it's
difficult,
falling,
asleep
inability
to
stay
asleep
waking
up
too
early
and
according
to
2018
reviews,
short-term
exposure
to
noise
pollution
can
temporarily
raise
blood
pressure
and
increase
blood
viscosity.
A
J
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
I'm
to
be
trying
to
brief.
I
attended
the
mtc,
a
back
plan,
bay
area,
2020
webinar
and
it's
expanding
partnerships
and
also
equity,
focused
discussions
and
it's
very
enlightening,
and
on
september
12th
I
went
to
the
second
taiwan
center
for
mandarin
learning
opening.
So
it's
really
great
they're
offering
mandarin
learning
for
adults,
and
I
attended
on
september
14th
the
state
of
the
district
addressed
by
a
cosd
superintendent
state
yao.
We
all
know
copenhagen
union
school
district
is
working
really
hard
to
re-organize
their
schools.
J
So
this
is
an
important
topic.
It
was
really
good
discussions
and
also
good
information
from
cusd
and
on
september
16th
I
co-moderated
with
santa
clara
county
santa
clara
city
council
kevin
park
on
the
aapm
mental
health
forum,
so
I
would
say
a
little
bit
more
on
when
this
item
comes
up
and
I
am
very
happy
to
have
attended
the
assembly
member
evan
lowe's,
a
7
million
dollar
giveaway
from
funding
for
wildfire
from
federal
funding
at
in
los
gatos
on
september
18th.
It
was
really
a
very
joyful.
J
You
know
occasion
that
seven
million
dollars
for
wi-fi
go
to
the
west
valley,
cities
of
campbell,
cupertino,
los
gatos,
mother,
sereno
and
saratoga,
and
I'm
very
happy
that
our
emergency
manager,
thomas
ching,
was
also
there.
So
it's
good
to
see
you
there,
tom
and
on
september
19th,
our
very
own
kubernetes
library
foundation,
hosted
the
senior
housing
speaker
series
and
I
was
honored
to
co-moderate
with
henry
sen.
I
think
this
is
a
very
important
topic
for
cupertino.
A
K
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
willie
I'll
go,
so
I
actually
had
about
five
items.
I
wanted
to
report
out
on
that
weren't
committee
items.
I'm
gonna
skip
all
that
you
know
I
was
really.
I
was
really
moved
by.
You
know
a
member
of
the
public
talking
about
redlining,
and
this
is
not
the
first
time
he's
spoken
about
it,
but
I
did
go
and
take
a
look.
So
I
want
to
dedicate
my
minute
or
so
to
that
you
know.
Quick.
Google
search
states
quote
in
the
united
states.
A
Redlining
is
the
systematic
denial
of
various
services
to
residents
of
specific,
often
racially
associated
neighborhoods
or
communities,
either
explicitly
or
through
the
selective
raising
of
prices.
End
quote
so
that
comes
off
the
wikipedia
entry
and
you
know
I
think,
that's
it's
very
moving.
You
know
this
is
a
an
extremely
nuanced
subject
with
regard
to
racial
dynamics.
A
But
when
I
look
at
a
community
like
ours,
I
often
think
that
yeah
we're
often
you
know,
looked
at
and
I
think
very
unfairly
persecuted
or
taken
advantages.
Advantaged
of
because
of
you
know
demographics,
and
so
I
stand
in
total
solidarity
with
the
experiences
and
the
you
know.
The
the
the
the
the
pain
that's
being
relayed
there
so
now,
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
to
the
forefront
I'll
go
on
to
vice
mayor
ciao.
Vice
mayor
channel.
H
Hello
yeah,
actually
I
have
heard
cupertino
back
in
1970
is
or
even
earlier
is
a
community
that's
undesirable.
It's
very
cheap
and
other
areas.
Campbell
and
sunnyvale
was
has
more
higher
housing
prices.
Then
things
change,
so
I'm
curious
how
how
things
redlining,
if
from
1930s,
affect
many
things
today
and
so
I'd
like
to
report
on
the
11th.
H
I
attended,
the
the
former
fall
festival
and
festival,
and
now
it's
named
day
and
night
festival
and
now
rotary
club
hosted
that
not
only
if,
during
that
in
the
morning,
they
also
had
live
band
at
night,
and
then
we
had
the
art
commission
host
art
contest.
So
on
behalf
of
mayor,
I
picked
out
a
winner
and
yeah.
So
thank
you
rotary
and
a
lot
of
volunteers
for
making
this
amazing
event
possible.
H
It
was
extremely
well
attended
and
this
each
city
department
also
had
a
booth
to
provide
a
lot
of
brochures,
information
for
the
residents
and
the
police
and
fire
station,
and
another
thing
I'd
like
everyone's
attention:
that,
on
thursday
cusd
board
meeting
the
superintendent
stacy
will
propose
a
potential
school
closing
plan
likely
identifying
sites
or
chosen
for
potential
culture
for
this
year,
and
that's
just
the
first
phase,
and
it
seems
that
they
have
place
to
close
more
the
next
two
three
years.
Yeah.
A
O
C
Thank
you,
mayor
I'll.
Just
follow
up
on
one
of
the
public
speakers.
Staff
is
also
reviewing
the
documents
submitted
by
our
speaker
on
our
noise
ordinance
and
the
differences
between
our
ordinance
and
the
other
jurisdictions,
and
we'll
be
reporting
back
on
that
review
over
the
next
few
weeks
to
the
council.
A
Excellent.
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
item
item
number
five
is
our
report
on
committee
assignments
and
committee
assignments.
Are
our
specific
assigned
committees
at
the
beginning
of
the
calendar
year
would,
and
we
have
10
minutes
allocated
for
this,
and
so
would
anyone
from
council
like
to
provide
their
summary
of
activities
since
our
last
regular
meeting
on
september,
7th
related
to
committee
assignments?
A
There
were
a
number
of
items
discussed,
including
the
plans,
as
relates
to
covet
and
reopening,
essentially,
as
relates
to
those
vta
is
following
guidance
from
from
county
state
and
and
the
federal
government,
and
so
the
requirements
from
from
those
in
an
effort
to
assure
uniformity
are
what's
going
to
be
driving.
I
did
ask
a
question
about
if
a
particular
city
ends
up
imposing
some
requirements,
would
that
actually
end
up
affecting
the
agency,
since
the
agency,
of
course,
is
operating
within
our
cities?
A
O
A
Rail
has
been
reopened
completely,
and
you
know
it's
it's
an
ongoing
set
of
challenges
that
we
face
on
the
agency
on
on
a
different
note.
Much
more
forward
looking
in
terms
of
our
future
transit
is
the
idea
of
what
we
do
with
our
bus
fleet
and
what
they're
looking
to
do
is
to
either
electrify
or
switch
over
to
a
hydrogen.
K
So
with
that
being
said
in
the
future,
we
would
like
to
increase
that
discount,
but
at
the
current
time
we're
just
not
able
to
do
it.
We
also
discussed
the
work
plan
over
the
next
year
and
trying
to
grow
silicon
valley,
clean
energy,
so
that
we
can
handle
more
clean
energy
projects,
get
more
the
residents
involved
in
using
silicon
valley,
clean
energy
for
their
power
supply.
So
with
that
being
said,
that's
it
for
this
month.
Thank
you.
L
And
I
did
I
left
this
off
in
the
the
previous
item.
But
I
did
attend
the
urban
forestry
alliance
meeting
on
september
9th.
Really
I
I
it
was
a
long
meeting,
but
at
the
end
of
it
I
was
highly
motivated
to
see
that
we
got
more
trees
in
the
community
and
then,
on
the
end
of
the
day
september
9th
I
was
attended
the
cities
association,
which
appointed
with
some
elections
there,
and
we
also
discussed
a
complicated
issue
with
regards
to
the
the
airport
noise
round
table
and
that's
it.
L
A
C
C
C
However,
we're
continuing
to
support
county
services
testing
resumed
in
cupertino
a
week
ago,
and
it
will
be
returning
again
on
monday
october,
4th
and
monday
october
18th
and
residents
can
sign
up
for
testing
through
the
county
and
vaccinations
have
now
been
approved
nationally
for
third
doses
for
immunocompromised
and
those
over
65
years
of
age
and
there's
further
progress
on
youth
vaccination
as
test
results
are
being
released.
I
also
with
the
mayor's
permission,
have
expanded
the
update,
because
we
wanted
to
start
sharing
some
of
the
public
events
that
are
available
to
our
residents.
C
The
weekend
after
we
have
our
pooch
plunge,
which
is
on
saturday
october,
2nd
at
blackberry
farm
pools,
where
it's
an
opportunity
for
our
pooches
to
swim,
splash
and
plunge
into
the
water
pre-registration,
is
required
and
can
be
found
at
the
city
website
and
admission
is
five
dollars
per
dog.
I
guess
humans
are
free,
so
that's
and
then
that
same
weekend
starts
shakespeare
in
the
park
with
pericles,
the
prince
of
tyre
performing
at
the
memorial
park,
amphitheater
on
october,
2nd
and
third,
and
returning
the
following
weekend
on
the
8th,
9th
and
10th.
C
C
A
H
A
H
A
Okay,
yeah.
Well,
thank
you
for
accepting
that
on
behalf
of
cupertino
vice
mayor,
I
unfortunately
I
need
to
drive
back
for
a
for
a
court
hearing
on
thursday
morning
and
then
I'll
be
heading
back
to
sacramento,
but
that
unfortunately
coincides
with
the
time
when
we're
supposed
to
be
accepting
the
award
a
lot
of
great
things
happening
in
cupertino,
and
so
hopefully
everyone
leans
into
the
good
and
true
press
such
as
it
is
generated.
A
L
A
Okay:
let's
go
ahead
and
I'll.
Take
that
as
your
request
to
pull
item
number
15..
Is
there
any
other
item?
I
see
you've,
muted
yourself
and
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up
from
council.
Let
me
go
to
the
members
of
the
public,
jennifer
griffin,
I
see
your
hand
is
up
and
I
won't
put
this
on
a
timer.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
pulling
any
items
on
our
consent?
Calendar
and
again
that's
items
number
seven
through
15.
G
A
A
Okay,
you're
welcome.
So
let's
take
it
back
to
council.
Will
anyone
be
willing
to
move
items
seven
through
fourteen,
as
recommended
on
our
agenda?
I
see
council
members,
moore
and
willie
have
their
hands
raised
in
sequence
and
so
councilmember
moore.
Would
you
like
to
move
the
item?
Yes,
so
moved:
okay,
councilmember
willie!
Would
you
like
a
second
second?
Yes
excellent.
I
don't
see
any
further
hands
raised
for
consent
items
seven
through
fourteen
and
so
madam
city
clerk.
Would
you
please
conduct
the
roll
call
vote
for
those
items
on
our
consent.
A
A
Thank
you,
madam
city
clerk,
and
so
we
are
on
to
item
number
15..
The
subject
is
to
initiate
sixth
cycle
general
plan.
Housing
element
update,
consider
consultant
agreement
to
complete
the
sixth
cycle,
general
plan,
housing
element,
update,
related
rezoning
and
all
necessary
environmental
review,
as
required
under
state
law
and
associated
budget
modification,
and
I
believe
that
our
director
of
planning,
I.e
community
development
benfu
is
back
here
ben
did
you
want
to
provide
us?
The
summary
on
this
item.
D
Yes
mayor,
we
actually
have
a
team
of
staff
here
to
to
assist
and
answer
questions
as
well.
Thank
you
mayor
for
introduction,
ben
food
director
of
community
development.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
vice
mayor,
mr
c
manager
and
city
council,
as
well
as
the
public
for
entertaining
this
item
for
this
item.
D
As
you
may
be
aware,
we
initiated
this
process
earlier
in
20
and
20
21
earlier
this
year
with
our
first
duration
of
the
rfq
ascending
out,
the
prep
work
really
started
winter
of
last
year,
2020.,
we
went
through
a
couple
of
different
rounds
rfq
and
we're
able
to
secure
this
particular
consultant
to
assist
the
city.
We'll
also
talk
about
sort
of
the
budget,
modifications
as
well,
which
I'll
be
happy
to
to
address
with
that
I'll.
Let
go
and
let
erica
start
with
the
discussion
and
we're
here
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Staff
conduct
conducted
multiple
rfp
efforts
between
april
and
july
in
an
effort
to
receive
proposals
from
qualified
consultants
to
assist
the
city
in
completing
a
housing
element,
update
related
rezoning
and
all
necessary
environmental
review,
as
required
under
state
law.
After
thoroughly
reviewing
proposals,
staff
held
interviews
with
the
most
qualified
firms
in
mid-august
and
conducted
reference
checks.
Z
Z
Given
the
significance
of
the
housing
element,
update
staff
therefore
recommends
that
city
council
initiate
the
six
cycle.
Housing
element
update,
award
a
consultant
agreement
for
the
sixth
cycle,
general
plan,
housing
element,
update,
related
rezoning
and
all
necessary
environmental
review,
as
required
under
state
law,
authorized
city
manager
to
execute
the
consultant
agreement
based
on
the
scope
of
work
with
emc
planning
group
for
an
amount
not
to
exceed
748
040
authorize
the
city
manager
to
approve
no
cost
contract
change,
orders
with
emc
planning
group
and
approve
budget
modification
number
2122-4.
C
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
add
kind
of
a
another
note.
First,
since
I
came
on
board
as
your
interim
city
manager
as
I've
discussed
with
many
council
members,
this
is
a
critical
path
item
for
the
city
to
get
our
housing
element
done
to
meet
the
state
mandate
and
bringing
the
consultant
on
board
was
the
necessary
first
step
and
staff
redoubled.
Their
efforts
this
summer,
to
bring
on
a
qualified
consultant,
who
I
should
point
out,
is
also
doing
the
housing
element
for
two
other
cities
in
santa
clara
county.
C
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
that
it's
our
intention,
with
the
approval
of
the
consultant
contract
to
return
to
council
or
a
study
session
in
october
regarding
the
public
engagement
and
outreach
process
in
the
timeline
for
the
project
going
forward,
but
we
needed
to
have
the
consultant
on
board
before
we
can
bring
that
back
to
you.
Thank.
A
D
D
We
then
recently
found
out
that
those
grants
are
reimbursed
reimbursables
only
so
we
can't
really
use
them
up
front
so
that
accounts
for
for
additional
money
coming
back
to
council
asking
for
that,
and
also
some
items
did
not
make
it
to
the
priority
list
award
program
so
that
those
budgets
did
not
follow
through
with
that
as
well.
We
also
wanted
to
come
back
to
council
with
what
we
have
a
proposal.
So
we
know
the
exact
dollar
amount
that
that
that's
necessary
for
the
project
so
that
we
don't
so
we
can.
D
We
can
propose
a
an
amount.
That's
realistic
and
reasonable.
We've
seen
other
cities
with
different
amounts,
different
projects.
Well,
it
kind
of
depends
right.
If
the
city
has
already
areas
allocated
to
satisfy
the
arena
numbers,
then
they
wouldn't
need
as
an
extensive
housing
element.
Update.
Cupertino
is
not
one
of
those
right,
so
we
need
to
look
at
sites.
We
can
identify
some
sites
and
then
identify
the
density,
so
that
requires
more
work
than
a
city
already.
Has
those
zones
identified
already
in
their
city
also
too,
depending
on?
D
We
can't
speak
details
about
what
the
budget
is
like
or
contracts
for
other
contractors
and
other
cities,
but
every
city
has
different
needs,
different
level
resources
allocation.
Some
city
is
much
bigger
than
us,
whether
it's
in
size
or
or
a
number
of
residents
or
staffing,
so
that
that
would
account
for
the
need
for
either
a
more
comprehensive
study
or
not
that's
up
for
speculation.
Obviously,
so
that's
what
would
the
difference
would
be
between
our
our
amounts
versus
some
of
you
see
some
other
city,
something
else.
L
L
Six,
okay,
thank
you
and
then
I
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
task
k,
the
sql
documentation
and
it's
assuming
a
initial
study,
mitigated
negative
declaration
with
an
optional
contingency
budget
to
cover
the
cost
for
a
full
environmental
impact
report.
And
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
the
city
attorney.
So
if
we,
if
we
had
a
site
that
we
suspect
has
contamination
on
it,
is
that
something
that
would
flip
the
mnd
into
an
eir
situation.
L
M
L
L
M
So
I
mean
it's
difficult
to
answer
those
questions
in
the
abstract.
I
mean
the
question
that
that
you
would
answer
for
any
aspect
of
the
housing
element,
including
that
one
is
whether
there
is
an
impact,
and
you
know
whether
it
can
be
mitigated
to
a
less
than
significant
level.
There
are
even
on
on
contaminated
sites.
There
are,
are
many
recognized
ways
to
mitigate
those
impacts
so,
but,
but
I
I
do
think
it's
a
very
difficult
question
to
answer
in
the
abstract.
L
Okay,
so
is:
is
there
just
cities
set
as
a
policy
that,
if
they,
if
they
know
that
there
is
a
high
potential
for
contamination,
that
they
would
not
select
those
particular
sites
for
housing
or
or
did
they
just
go
ahead?
And
even
if
it's
a
gas
station
or
not,
we
need
to
designate
these
sites
and
and
and
we're
going
to
go
with
a
an
mnd,
because
we're
going
to
make
the
assumption
that
it
can
be
mitigated
and
not
really
knowing
in
the
end.
If,
if
it
can
be.
D
So
so
I'll
say
once
again
to
pick
it
back
on
it's
the
attorney
to
comment.
Obviously
it's
hard
to
for
us
to
speculate
that
particular
situation,
but
we
obviously
I
think,
as
as
as
any
city
would
do
if
you
try
to
identify
sites
that
are
more
housing
friendly.
So,
but
you
know,
depending
on
the
on
the
city
and
the
location
of
the
city,
you
may
have
very
limited
those
those
kind
of
sites
available.
So
you
had
to
start
looking
at
other
sites
as
well
and
consider
the
environmental
impacts
of
those
sites.
K
So
that
being
said
now
that
we've
got
six,
it
sounds
like
we're
catching
up
six
quotes.
So
that
sounds
good.
I'd
like
to
know
two
more
things.
One
is
kind
of
in
addition
to
mayor
paul's.
I'd
I'd
really
like
to
know
you
know
a
million
dollars.
Yes,
councilman
moore
also
brought
up
such
a
discrepancy.
K
The
appearance
of
a
discrepancy
of
that
large
magnitude
would
really
gee.
Whiz
were
all
the
consultants
that
were
reasonably
priced
used
up
and
were
faced
with.
You
know
the
higher
price
quotes.
Can
you
compare
our
price
being
just
over
a
million
dollars
to
what
the
other
comparable
cities
around
us
are
hearing?
The
numbers
would
really
help
us
to
understand.
You
know
its
tax
dollar,
what
we're
spending
and
then
the
second
question
again
of
the
lagging
feeling
that
we're
lagging
a
little
bit.
K
K
Is
there
going
to
be
adequate
time
for
the
resident
engagement,
adequate
time
for
city
staff
to
be
crafting
identifying
sites
and
doing
all
that?
A
couple
of
those
comments
or
answers,
I
think,
would
help
us
to
know
where
we're
really
at.
Are
we
in
good
shape
or
still
lagging
a
little
bit?
Thank
you.
D
Sure,
mr
mayor,
if
I
may
thank
you
council
member
customer
willing
for
your
question.
Yes,
we
heard
those
those
claims
as
well
and
as
I
was
attempting
to
address
earlier
in
the
presentation,
two
two
things,
one
in
terms
of
the
in
terms
of
the
the
amounts
we'll
have
to
look
at
what
other
cities
contracts
and
we
can
get
the
copy
to
contract,
evaluate
the
contract.
I
understand
what
went
into
them
but,
like
I
said,
every
city
is
a
little
bit
different.
D
If,
if
we,
if
our,
if
a
city
already
has
adequate
sites
designated
for,
say
all
the
extreme
100
000
units,
for
example,
and
the
new
arena
numbers
fall
within
those
numbers,
then
the
amount
of
work
reasonable
work.
That
needs
to
be
done.
It's
you
can
understand
less
than
a
city
that
has,
for
example,
zero
and
been
allocated
a
hundred
thousand
units
right.
It's
a
very
extreme
example.
D
D
So
so
that
could
that
could
account
for
for
one
of
the
discrepancies
in
terms
of
the
of
the
pricing,
the
contract
amount
itself
in
terms
of
whether,
when
the
city
staff
just
misbudgeted
or
mishandled,
a
budget
that
that
would
that's
entirely
untrue.
We
we
could
have
come
forward
with
just
straight
up
million
dollars,
but
it
would
just
be.
D
Unfortunately,
by
the
time
we
get
those
funds,
we
get
the
details
of
those
funds
and,
like
I
said,
they're
reimbursable,
so
we
can't
pay
them
upfront,
for
example,
the
contract.
We
can't
just
paid
upfront
to
consult
and
have
them
start
work.
We
have
to
reimburse,
after
fact,
so
therefore
we're
asking
for
that
money
ahead
of
time
as
we
pay,
and
then
we
can
reimburse
the
city
as
part
of
that
fund
and
in
terms
of
the
scheduling.
D
So
we
start
our
process
around
that
time
as
well
working
on
the
rfp
pro
documentation
reaching
out
on
our
own
to
to
our
list
to
the
to
the
con
contractors
that
we
know
of
so
we
did
that
two
rounds.
We
didn't
receive
any
any
bits.
I
can't
say
why
what
that
is,
but
then
we
did
receive
more
and
this
time
around
with
the
help
our
interim
city
manager
and
do
more
outreach
on
our
staff
as
well.
We've
probably
called
quite
a
bit
just
reaching
out
to
them
as
well.
D
D
So
that's
why
we're
going
to
get
more
responses
this
time
around.
But
in
terms
of
being
consistent,
I
think
a
number
of
the
cities
are
the
same
track
as
well.
As
you
can
see,
some
emc
is
also
in
a
contract
process
with
a
couple
other
cities,
so
we're
sort
of
caught
up
if
you
will
to
use
your
words
from
councilmember
willie
to
to
the
process
and
there's
ample
time
we
spoke
with.
D
Staff
spoke
with
spoken
with
the
emc
there's
ample
time
to
to
conduct
this
process
and
and
that
their
ability
having
to
work
with
other
cities
in
our
county
and
just
just
familiar
with
with
our
county,
is
going
to
help
with
the
process
and
the
timeline
as
well.
So
hopefully
that
answered
your
question
a
little
bit
and
I
know
mr
larson
may
be
able
to
add
a
little
bit
more
and.
C
If
I
may
follow
on
mr
mayor
from
one
comment,
I
was
really
pleased
with
the
round
of
the
rfp
process
that
occurred
since
I
began.
Staff
did
aggressive
outreach,
including
myself,
calling
firms
to
encourage
them
to
apply
and
telling
a
good
story
about
cupertino
and
our
role
in
silicon
valley
and
what
this
community
has
going
for
it,
and
I
was
pleased
when
we
got
six
firms
in
staff
reviewed
those
paper
proposals.
C
They
chose
three
firms
as
finalists
to
interview.
Two
of
those
firms
were
chosen
as
the
top
finalists
to
do
reference
checks
and
ultimately
came
to
me
for
a
final
decision,
which
are
the
two
firms
to
go
with
and
to
the
councilman's
point.
In
particular,
one
of
the
key
differentiators
for
the
firm
we're
recommending
is
that
they
could
start
immediately,
while
the
other
top
firm,
which
had
other
great
strengths,
would
have
had
a
delayed
start
on
our
housing
element
project,
and
I
think
that
tipped
the
scales
for
us
going
with
emc
they're,
both
qualified
plus.
C
U
H
H
D
To
be
honest,
vice
mayor,
I
wouldn't
know
how
anybody
would
know
being
able
to
decline
to
to
to
submit
if,
if
they
choose
not
to
submit,
they
would
simply
choose
not
to
submit
a
proposal.
They
wouldn't
necessarily
contact
the
city
and
say
thank
you
for
your
interest,
but
I
declined
to
submit
so
we
wouldn't
know
that.
H
D
C
Wondering
yeah
and
I'm
going
to
give
the
kudos
to
staff
for
doing
the
outreach.
I
did
a
couple
calls,
but
they
had
already
called
most
of
the
firms.
I
was
gonna
call
by
the
time
I
started
calling.
So
I
appreciate
the
recognition
and
I
really
want
to
give
it
to
ben
and
his
team
for
the
I
think
he
told
me
ben
it
was
roughly
30
call
your
staff.
Did
I
had
a
couple
firms
on
that
list.
I
was
calling
as
well.
H
Okay,
great
thank
you
for
clarifying,
thank
you
ben
and
greg
for
your
leadership
and
we
didn't
start
too
late,
and
but
the
good
thing
is
at
the
end.
We
now
finally
found
a
good
consultant
that
that
could
start
right
away.
That's
really
good
to
know
and
how
so
how
many
city
planners
will
be
working
on
the
housing
element.
Do
we
have
enough
staff.
D
Good
question
by
smear
child:
we're
we're
working
on
that.
Your
your
planning
division
team
has
a
total
of
seven
planners,
including
the
planning
manager
herself
as
well.
That's
something
significantly
less
than
other
cities
that
we've
seen
cited
in
these
emails
and
correspondence,
whether
it's
palo,
alto
or
mountain
view.
I
think
they
at
least
double
our
account
just
for
the
contract
process
itself.
H
H
H
Oh,
I
was
looking
at
that.
I
didn't
see
so
it's
further
down.
Okay,
yes,
fine
I'll!
Look
that
up
later!
So
regarding
the
scope
of
work,
I
see
that
rezoning
is
considered
an
optional
task,
which
means
that
the
current
estimate
doesn't
include
any
cost
in
case.
We
need
to
observe
a
certain
site
and-
and
I'm
guessing
when
we
need
to
operation,
is
it
when
we
need
a
full
eir?
Is
that
why
it's
included?
H
H
Z
H
Z
Z
Z
U
H
Final
question
is,
I
see
the
task
c
is
housing
and
spatial
housing
needs,
and
the
special
housing
needs
that
it's
listed
here
is
quote.
Special
housing
needs
will
be
evaluated
for
the
disabled,
elderly,
large
families,
from
workers,
families
with
female
heads
of
households,
families
and
persons
in
need
of
emergency
shelter.
H
But
then
I
remember
in
the
housing
element,
there
is
a
specific
requirement
of
affirmatively,
fair
housing,
there's
some
a
new
term,
and
that
specifically
has
to
do
with
the
address
the
issue.
That's
according
to
the
apec
criteria.
Cupertino
is
not
diverse
enough
because
we
have
a
very
large
percentage
of
asian
populations,
but
not
some
other
racial
groups,
but
that's
not
addressed
in
this
task
c.
So
I'm
wondering
how
this
consultant,
which
or
which
part
of
the
scope
of
work,
include
something
that
would
address
the
affirmatively
fair
housing
criteria.
D
Yeah
vice
mayor,
good
question,
thank
you.
We
we
will
be
addressing
the
our
assessment
of
from
the
furthering
fair
housing.
It's
required
as
part
of
housing
element
update,
and
it
will
be
that
will
be
going
concurrently.
But
it's
on
a
separate,
separate,
separate
budget
with
a
separate
consultant
that
will
be
working
with.
AA
Yes,
so
there
is
an
analysis
that
the
city
will
be
undertaking
with
regard
to
affirmative
furthering
fair
housing.
However,
for
housing
element
purposes,
there
is
another
task
under
task
g
related
to
reformative
and
further
fair
housing.
We
have
to
analyze
all
of
our
sites
and
determine
how
the
selection
of
sites
actually
further
affirmatively
furthers
fair
housing,
so
that
task
is
included
under
cash
g.
AA
H
AA
J
Thank
you
mayor
pratt,
so
I
want
to
clarify
three
points
and
the
first
one
is.
I
did
hear
ben
director
and
explained
that
the
difference
in
the
pricing
for
other
cities
in
our
city.
It
really
depends
on
the
scope
of
work.
So
I
know
public
we're.
You
know,
council
members
very
curious
in
public
is
going
to
get
us.
So
I
hear
that
and
I
think
that's
you
know
we
have
six
bits,
so
I'm
pretty
sure
we
picked
the
first
one
that
the
one
that's
really
catered
to
our
needs.
J
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
is
what
director
ban
means.
The
second
one
is
we
and
I
also
hear
the
discrepancies
for
774
thousand
dollars.
Actually
it
doesn't
it's
not
that
much,
because
we,
our
staff,
sort
of
when
they
did
the
estimate
they
calculated
the
grand
funds
of
lead
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
reap
fifty
two
six
one
three
into
it,
but
now
we
have
to
pay
it
first
before
it
gets
reimbursed,
so
it
discrepancy
seems
to
be
big,
but
it's
not
as
big
as
it
seems
correct
me.
J
If
I'm
wrong,
I
won't
clarify
that
so
actually
the
350
2613
will
be
back
from
the
grant
to
fund
this
program,
but
it's
backwards.
So
we
have
the
budget
now
we
will
get
reimbursed
later.
The
third
one
is
about
timing,
and
I
I
really
think
this.
We
should
make
this
our
priority
right
now
when
we
do
our
housing
elements.
So
can
you
verify
my
guess?
My
analysis
is
correct.
D
Yeah,
yes,
of
course,
council
on
the
way.
Thank
you
for
that.
Your
analysis
is,
is
correct
in
terms
of
the
the
funding
originally
like
I
mentioned.
Originally,
we
had
looked
at
this
being
about
nine
hundred
thousand
up
to
a
million,
so
we
we
proposed
nine
hundred
thousand
split
into
different
efforts
and
different
projects,
and
so
depending
on
what
what
rises
to
the
to
the
priority
for
the
program
item.
Some
will
not
be
able
to
capture
and
that's
why
you
see
that
discrepancy.
D
Like
you
mentioned,
also,
of
course,
the
grand
phone,
the
352
000
and
change
play
a
huge
part
into
that.
So,
if
you
don't
look
at
all
that
really
the
difference
is
about
one
whatever
1.0
million
versus
the
900
000,
plus
that
we
initially
anticipated
so
roughly
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
difference
than
we
had
initially
anticipated,
not
even
having
a
proposal
on
hand
over
the
details
of
what
could
be
done,
that
that
is
the
true
discrepancy.
D
If
you
want
to
call
it
that,
but
yes,
your
assessment
is
absolutely
correct
and
it
is
all
hands
on
day
for
us,
like,
I
mentioned
even
outreach
process
and
we
deployed
five
out
of
our
seven
planners
from
the
team
hours
spent
talking
to
consultants
and
multiple
callbacks,
so
it
is
absolutely
all
hands
on
deck.
We
have
a
really
capable
team
that
works
a
tremendous
amount
of
hours
to
not
just
for
these
items,
but
also
to
perform
the
daily
operations.
A
D
A
Z
A
Okay,
so
so,
basically,
we
simply
had
a
set
of
requirements
and
asked
a
number
of
companies
to
go
ahead
and
bid
that
out
and
six
submitted,
and
we
ended
up
getting.
You
know
general
ballpark
range
here
so
so
this
is
a
question
with
regard
to
other
than
the
fact
that
they
could
work
with
us
a
little
bit
more
quickly.
What
are
the
other
value
adds
that
we
see
in
this
recommended
selection
for
emc.
C
O
D
A
A
So
it
does
sound
like
we're,
adhering
more
to
the
principles
of
a
greater
public
involvement,
as
well
as
just
being
particularly
sensitive
to
safety
and
environmental
needs.
So
well,
thank
you
for
that
information.
It
will
be
good
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know,
other
aspects
that
they
might
be
bringing
to
the
table,
but
at
this
point
I'll
go
ahead.
Councilman
moore,
you
do
have
your
hand
raised
again.
Did
you
have
a
a
brief
follow-up
question
before
we
go
to
members
of
the
public.
L
Well,
I
think
it's,
it's
actually
perhaps
a
question
for
you,
mayor,
paul
or
or
for
the
city
manager
as
a
suggestions
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
interested
in
this
particular
topic.
I
I
some
of
us
are
aware
that
a
form
of
a
newsletter
was
sent
out
with
with
various
attacks
and
charges
kind
of
levied
against
this
this
process.
L
L
A
Know
you
know,
frankly,
that's
an
inquiry
for
staff.
In
my
opinion,
you
know
if,
if
there's
any
lobbying
related
activity,
you
know
driving
this,
I
I
think
the
legitimate
question
is
to
you
know:
ask
our
our
staff
or
city
attorney
to
look
into
the
idea
of
how
we
can
enforce
our
newly
enacted
lobbying
ordinance.
A
C
You
know
the
only
comment
I
would
add
is
that
stack
during
the
course
of
this
presentation
that
tried
to
lay
out
the
facts
as
we
know
it,
and
I
think
that
is
staff's
role
in
terms
of
the
political
discourse
that
occurs
that's
kind
of
beyond
staff,
but
in
terms
of
providing
facts
such
as
the
firm
we're
recommending
is
doing
to
other
cities
in
santa
clara
county.
I
think
that's
relevant
information
for
the
council
to
know.
M
A
Okay,
let's
go
on
to
our
members
of
the
public.
I
see
that
we
have
paul
soto
and
jennifer
griffin
with
hands
raised,
welcome
paul
and
we
will
once
paul
comments
are
concluded.
You'll
have
to
have
your
hand
raised
in
order
to
speak.
I
see
jean
vadored
also
has
her
hand
raised
at
this
point,
and
so
we'll
start
with
paul.
Welcome
paul.
P
P
So
I
I
would
I
would
I
would
challenge
the
the
council
to
to
to
try
to
at
least
try
to
adopt
that
type
of
perspective
that
that
the
moral
and
ethical
implication
and
legal
and
legal
implications
of
redlining
that
this
is
the
grunt.
This
is
the
consequence
and
it's
up
to
our
generation
to
settle
those
moral
and
ethical
and
legal
violations
that
have
happened
over
four
generations.
P
One
good,
really
really
good
piece
is
that
martin
luther
king
april
3rd
of
1967
at
stanford
university
county
santa
clara,
he
gave
a
speech.
It's
called
the
the
other
america
and
he
articulates
explicitly
how
this
happened.
What
it
looks
like
what
its
moral
failures
were
of
segregated
housing,
okay,
and
so,
when
the
redlining
map.
It's
no
coincidence,
because
I
grew
up
right
there
on
on
in
the
gardner
area,
so
bird
avenue
bird
avenue,
that's
the
cutoff
point,
every
single
thing,
west
of
bird
avenue
in
the
county
of
santa
clara.
P
P
We
can't
have
ourselves
in
proximity
to
races
and
cultures
and
and
they
actually
call
them
invaders,
which
is
interesting,
because
that
language
was
resurfaced
within
the
context
of
trump's
candidacy
and
thank
you,
his
candidacy
and
his
presidency,
and
so
so
I'm
going
to
be
sending
you
all
those
documents.
You
go
ahead
and
look
at
them
yourself
and
then
I
think
you'll
kind
of
understand
what
I'm
saying
that
it
has
to
be
centered
within
the
context
of
these
conversations,
so
that
people
can
understand.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
mayor
darcy,
I'm
sorry,
I
keep
calling
you
darcy
mayor
paul.
Yes,
I'm
jennifer
griffin
and
you
know
I.
I
have
followed
everything
about
abed
and
hcd
and
mtc
and
the
arena
numbers.
This
has
been
an
ongoing
drama,
never
seen
anything
like
this
in
the
last
21
years
that
we've
been
in
the
city
and
we
were
in
the
county
five
years
before
this
is
mega
drama,
and
I
will
tell
you
right
now,
my
20
years,
21
years
of
association
with
the
city
of
cupertino,
we
are
a
fine
city.
G
I
have
always
been
impressed
by
the
diligence
and
brilliance
of
our
staff.
I
I
commend
the
staff
we
have
now
working
on
this.
We
are
in.
We
have
because
of
what
the
governor
did.
I
don't
I
am
going
to
reiterate
again
what
he
did
on
nine
and
ten
went
over
the
line.
We
have
gone
into
soviet
dictatorship
land.
I
recommend
that
everyone
become
aware
of
what
he
has
done.
Frankly,
the
stuff
coming
out
of
sacramento
makes
you
wonder
if
the
politicians
hate
the
residents
of
the
state,
the
arena
numbers
are
outrageous.
G
I
my
main
reason
for
pulling.
This
item
was
to
make
sure
that
emc
planning
came
into
this
neutral
and
that
they
understood
the
confusion
and
concerns
that
the
very
activated
residents
of
our
city,
we
are
enraged,
engaged
and
ready
and
let's
roll
local
control,
let's
grow
four
is
for
local
control.
Let's
roll
this,
this
arena
cycle
is
going
to
be
one
heck
of
a
ride,
but
I'm
concerned
about
everybody
seems
to
be
trying
to
upzone
everything
in
california.
G
I'm
particularly
concerned
about
the
upzoning
more
the
properties
in
cupertino
that
we
need
to
have
special
light
on
that.
I
think
emc
is
going
to
be
fantastic.
They
are
coming
in.
I
have
family
members
with
property
in
los
gatos.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
protected
from
arena
numbers
and
from
sb9
and
sb10.
I
I
think
that
it,
it
works
out
good.
We
have
montevista,
which
has
suffered
sp35
drama
and
frankly,
you
know
what
we've
had
a
heck
of
a
year.
G
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Reputation
and
distraction
with
non-essential
projects
is
costing
us
dearly.
I
urge
you
to
sign
this
agreement,
so
the
city
can
get
working
on
revising
the
housing
element.
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
the
next
six
months,
and
the
city
needs
to
start
community
outreach.
Time
is
of
the
essence.
Thank
you.
A
A
H
A
J
H
H
H
H
They
have
spent
some
other
dollars
on,
so
their
housing
urban
element
alone
might
not
be
as
much
perhaps
because
they
have
been
doing
other
things.
I
don't
know,
I
think.
Probably
each
city
is
different,
so
it's
not
apple
to
apple
comparison.
We
need
to
look
at
the
scope
of
work
of
each
contract
to
really
know.
A
So
you
know,
I
think
that
that's
a
that's
a
good
example
and
let's
move
forward
and
and
learn,
you
know
I
I'm
a
bit
disappointed
to
hear
yeah.
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
self-serving,
I
don't
know
what
purpose
it
really
is
geared
at,
but
inaccurate
information
saying
that
you
know
over
a
hundred,
were
you
know,
approached
and
and
declined?
I
just
I
I
don't
know.
A
A
You
know
welcome,
assuming
that
this
passes.
I
hope
in
good
faith
that
it
does
serve
cupertino
to
a
requisite
level.
That's
right
with
the
amount
of
commitment
we're
setting
forth
as
well,
so
vice
mayor
chao,
you
still
have
your
hand
up.
Did
you
want
to
say
something
or
sorry?
Is
it?
Okay,
if
I
call
a
vote?