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Description
Coverage of the February 21, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting.
Part 2 of 2.
A
Continue
the
item
from
February
7th
we
already
have
staff
report
and
Council
asked
questions
public
comment.
So
we're
going
to
go
straight
to
council
discussions.
B
A
Does
the
council
want
to
make
a
motion
and
seconded
before
discussion
or
the
council's
pleasure
to
talk
to
discuss?
First,
according
to
our
new
procedures,
we
each
have
five
minutes
for
discussion.
Does
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion
yeah
all
right,
I'd,
like
okay,
Vice.
D
I'll,
second,
that
okay,
thank
you
and
so
so
accept
the
staff
response
right.
C
D
So
the
motion
is
to
accept
the
staff
response
stated
in
the
item
right.
B
A
Great
yes,
yes,
okay
yeah,
so
we
have
a
motion
by
vice
mayor,
Mohan
and
Council.
Second
by
council,
member
ciao.
E
Tell
you
what
so
that
I
don't
have
to
wait
for
it.
I
will
paste
the
text
into
an
email,
and
that
way
the
city
clerk
can
put
it
on
the
screen.
A
E
E
For
example,
the
city
council
recently
approved
two
significant
large
development
projects
and
a
number
of
smaller
developments
in
a
timely
fashion
and
the
city
continues
to
innovate
in
policy
areas
such
as
its
response
to
climate
change
and
the
reduction
of
single-use
plastics
second
is
to
with
respect
to
finding
four
and
elsewhere,
as
the
City
attorney
deems
appropriate
or
helpful
to
the
strength
of
the
response
to
add
language.
To
note
the
adoption
first
of
the
council
procedures
manual.
Second,
that
the
city
will
revisit
its
ethics
policy
using
the
2018
policy
as
a
starting
point
for
revision.
E
Third,
that
the
city
will
revisit
the
commissioner's
handbook
to
bring
it
into
alignment
with
the
council
procedures
manual
and
to
address
other
concerns
raised
by
the
Civil
grand
jury
report
and
then
four
that
the
City
attorney
will
investigate
and
report
back
on
other
violations
of
the
municipal
code.
With
respect
to
the
council
staff
and
commissioner
staff
relations
so
that
the
city
council
May,
establish
policy
to
correct
or
prevent
such
violations
in
future
and
I
hope
that
that
will
resolve
some
of
the
questions
that
people
have
had
about.
What
actually
has
happened
in
the
city.
A
So
that's
a
bit
bigger
it's
hard
to
read,
so
the
substitution
is
to
change
the
language
to.
E
To
adopt
yeah
to
adopt
the
the
response,
as
proposed
with
the
following
changes:
okay,.
B
E
City
continues
to
make
policy
progress
in
many
areas.
For
example,
the
city
council
recently
approved
two
significant
large
development
projects
and
a
number
of
smaller
developments
in
a
timely
fashion,
and
the
city
continues
to
innovate
in
policy
areas
such
as
its
response
to
climate
change
and
the
reduction
of
single-use
plastics
and
refinding
for
and
elsewhere,
as
the
City
attorney
team's
appropriate
or
helpful
to
the
strength
of
the
response,
adding
language
to
note.
First,
the
adoption
of
the
council
procedures
manual.
E
Second,
that
the
city
will
revisit
its
ethics
policy
using
the
2018
policy
as
a
starting
point
for
revision.
Third,
the
city
will
revisit
the
commissioner's
handbook
to
bring
it
into
alignment
with
the
council
procedures
manual
and
to
address
other
concerns
raised
by
the
Civil
grand
jury
report
and,
fourth,
that
the
City
attorney
will
investigate
and
report
back
on
other
violations
of
the
municipal
code
with
respect
to
council
staff
and
commissioner
staff
relations,
so
that
the
city
council
May
establish
policy
to
correct
or
prevent
such
violations
in
future.
A
A
D
Okay,
so
first
like
like
to
thank
the
Civil
Grand
jurors
for
com
for
committing
to
spend
20
hours
per
week
to
serve
as
watchdogs
for
our
public
agency.
It's
a
well-intentioned
process,
but
the
process
unfortunately,
is
flawed,
and
here
is
the
actual
process.
The
interviewees
have
to
sign
a
statement
to
not
disclose
the
content
of
the
interview
until
the
report
comes
out.
However,
they
are
not
required
to
to
sign
to
to
swear
to
tell
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
The
interviewees
were
all
Anonymous.
D
They
are
not
accountable
for
what
they
said
in
their
interview.
The
Civil
grand
jury
also
did
not
ask
for
any
supporting
evidence
to
make
a
new
attempt
to
verify
the
claim
and
I
voluntarily
supplied
evidence
after
the
interview,
but
they
seem
to
have
not
read
the
evidence
I
provided
they
selectively
include
some
narratives
in
which,
in
their
final
report,
but
some
they
choose
to
ignore
due
to
the
lack
of
cross-examination
and
evidence
seeking
process.
The
Civil
grand
jury,
unfortunately,
is
a
collection
of
selective
narratives,
not
verified
witness
testimony
or
affidavit
a
functional
city.
D
Government
government
require
a
two-way
public
engagement
process
throughout
the
decision-making
process,
but
a
lot
of
the
claims
made
by
the
Civil
ground
in
the
in
the
report
were
concerns
or
statements
that
were
never
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
city,
Administration
or
the
city
council.
As
a
result,
the
city
could
not
respond
to
them.
For
example,
the
very
simple
fact
of
the
code
of
ethics
was
not
posted
on
the
website
if
any
member
of
the
com
public
just
emailed
the
City
attorney
city,
city
manager
or
the
council
that
could
have
been
resolved.
D
This
is
not
even
a
council
decision
to
provide
that.
What
we
are
seeing
is
a
very
dysfunctional
but
not
big
within
between
the
council
and
the
city
staff,
but
we
are
seeing
some
people
choose
to
broadcast,
never
express
concerns
Direct
not
to
the
city,
admin
or
Council.
They
broadcast
to
civil
grand
jury
or
even
through
a
lawsuit
right
before
an
election
and
that's
very
dysfunctional.
They
are
creating
a
perception
of
this
function
that
may
or
may
not
be
there,
and
because
they
did
not
bring
the
concerns.
D
Some
of
them
misunderstand
the
actual
fact,
and
unfortunately
we
cannot
correct
them
because
they
did
not
bring
it
to
the
attention
of
the
city,
regardless
ECT
Fall,
City
Hall.
This
statement
by
the
Civil
grand
jury
that
funding
were
allocated
in
2015
and
then
redirected
is
false.
2015
is
the
custody.
Council
never
funded
the
project.
They
approved
a
plan
which
included
a
new
city
hall
but
turns
out
too
costly,
so
they
dropped
the
project
entirely.
They
did
not
even
consider
the
option
of
Simply
renovating
to
reduce
the
cost.
D
This
is
this
statement
by
civil
grand
jury
claimed
the
staff
on
some
staff
are
concerned.
The
city
council
is
not
willing
to
fund
the
project,
they
are
concerned
about
their
safety
and
this
concern
was
never
brought
up
to
the
city
manager
and,
since
the
city
manager
never
brought
up
that
concern
to
the
council,
when
the
council,
in
fact
have
been
working
on
trying
to
find
ways
to
renovate
the
city
hall
where
the
economic
means
we
have.
D
This
statement
is
this:
this
part
of
the
report
is
accurate,
that
the
city
has
not
been
providing
monthly
treasurer's
report,
and
now
the
city
finally
is
is
providing
that.
But
the
report
for
neglect
to
mention
it
was
council,
member,
Katie
Moore
who
actually,
who
brought
up
the
concern
and
repeatedly
and
finally,
the
city
staff
complied
and
I.
Don't
have
time
to
go
over
and
so
many
of
them.
But
here
are
the
facts.
On
the
code
of
ethics,
the
Civil
grand
jury
choose
not
to
recruit,
which
is
the
this
Con.
D
This
city
never
had
a
code
of
ethics
before
November
2018
and
it
was
adopted,
but
there
are
many
concerns
which
I
emailed
them,
but
then
they
choose
to
not
include
in
the
report.
The
2018
code
of
ethics
has
a
lot
of
issues,
which
is
why
it
was
rescinded
and
the
Civil
grand
jury
choose
not
to
include
any
of
them.
D
H
Great
thank
you.
So
you
should
have
my
response
in
the
written
Communications.
So
this
is
a
response
representing
myself
only
that
they
that
the
response
from
the
city
did
not
correct
the
findings
error.
On
page
eight
of
the
report.
The
grand
jury
did
not
inform
me
of
the
allegation
in
the
report
for
response,
which
one
would
expect
in
a
proper
investigation.
While
I
do
appreciate
the
immense
time
that
the
citizen
volunteers
willingly
donate
to
the
grand
jury,
it's
very
important
that
they
and
the
city
staff
providing
information,
get
it
right.
H
Paragraph
one.
On
page,
eight
states
that
I
questioned
a
subordinate
of
the
city
manager
about
charges.
The
staff
member
occurred
incurred
on
a
city
credit
card.
The
staff
member
presented
an
explanation
of
the
charges
council.
Member
Moore
did
not
accept
the
explanation
and
requested
copies
of
the
documentation
to
pursue
her
own
investigation.
This
is
not
true.
What
actually
happened
is
that
I
had
observed
and
I
should
mention
that
I've
been
on.
H
These
charges
would
total
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year,
with
no
reporting
to
the
public
for
what
the
city's
money
was
being
spent
on
or
a
formal
audit
of
these
charges.
It
should
be
noted,
as
I
said,
I'd
been
concurrently
serving
on
the
audit
committee
and
eventually
chairing
it.
I
had
seen
the
city's
credit
card
policy,
which
actually
was
put
together
by
acting
city
manager,
Amy,
Chan
and
I'd,
spoken
to
friends
who
have
company
and
government
issued
cards
and
was
told
what
they
were
required
to
document
for
their
card
use
and
read.
H
I
never
spoke
to
either
employee
those
supporting
documentation
came
from
separately.
An
employee
was
found
to
have
used
their
card
for
personal
items,
and
I
was
informed
that
they
had
been.
Let
go
City
attorney
Jensen
has
the
folder
I
described
and
can
share
what
he
deems
as
disclosable.
The
interim
city
manager
had
also
asked
me
to
do
another
spot
check
in
the
future,
given
that
I
was
handed
the
information
in
hard
copy.
H
It
was
not
an
email;
it
is
very
possible
that
no
other
staff
members
knew
that
I
had
it
I
hope
this
corrects
the
record
adequately
and
then
I
do
want
to
mention
I.
Think
I
might
have
said
this
before
the
response
to
finding
three.
The
grand
jury
report
makes
it
sound
like
the
embezzlement
which
ended
around
September
of
2014
was
found
in
2014.
The
city
does
not
correct
this,
so
that
the
public
will
understand
that
the
embezzlement
was
found
in
2018..
H
The
city
does
not
reference
the
2018
and
2019
internal
controls
reports,
which
are
actually
pretty
difficult
to
find,
which
have
numerous
deficiencies
and
City
responses.
The
city
also
does
not
address
that.
The
policy
staff
and
Moss
Adams
mentioned
that
they
were
working
on
were
not
brought
to
the
audit
committee
or
Council
for
us
to
actually
see
what
those
policies
are.
I
want
to
mention
the
March
14
2019
city
of
Cooper,
Tino,
internal
controls,
review
by
Frank
Zimmerman
and
Company
LLP.
H
H
We
still
haven't
gotten
that
updated
procurement
policy
still
hasn't
happened.
The
city
does
not
mention
that
at
the
January
audit
committee,
the
treasurer
recommended
that
the
audit
committee
no
longer
review
the
monthly
Treasurer
reports.
Just
the
quarterly
investment
reports,
which
are
two
reporters.
Two
reports
generated
by
our
hired
investors
at
the
audit
committee
alone
sees
the
accounts,
payable
statements
and
no
longer
would
they
come
to
council
that,
instead
of
meeting
monthly,
that
audit
would
recommend
that
they
only
meet
six
times
per
year.
This
reduces
the
number
of
views.
These
items
get
and
increases
risk.
H
Please
let
the
grand
jury
know
that
all
the
good
work
that's
being
done
is
being
rapidly
undone.
We
need
transparency
and
accountability.
So
when
we
we
will
be
having
the
items
come
to
council,
but
they
will
not
they'll
be
in
memo
form.
We
might
still
get
the
accounts
payable
by
resolution
that
will
show
up
on
the
agenda
but
understand
that
some
of
those
items
you're
not
going
to
see
them
they're
just
going
to
go
to
council.
Thank
you.
A
So
I'm
going
to
make
a
couple
of
minutes
comment
as
I
said,
the
when
jewelry
report
is
not
something
to
take
lightly
and
I
do
believe
our
city
manager
did
see
attorney,
did
a
good
job
of
responding
to
it,
but
I
do
agree
with
council.
Member
from
that
they
are
relevant
laws
that
specific
that
we
need
to
follow.
We
are
council
members.
Yes,
we
make
directions,
we,
you
know,
prove
ordinances,
but
we
need
to
follow
our
own
Municipal
laws
and
I
do
believe.
A
The
gradual
report
point
out
to
that
and
further
you
know,
work
from
the
council
as
a
whole.
We
need
to
work
on
that.
So
I
I
do
believe
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
I
believe
we
can
work
on
it.
If
we
all
and
take
a
step
back
and
say
this
is
happening,
so,
let's
work
on
it
and
as
for
the
a
lot
of
things,
that's
being
said,
I
just
want
to
say
I
trust.
A
Our
City
attorney
can
do
a
good
response
to
the
grand
jury
and
it's
due
March,
20th
and
I
do
like
that.
We
are
going
to
authorize
our
CEO
attorney
to
make
the
necessary
adjustment
and
it
doesn't
have
to
come
back
to
council,
because
I
trust,
our
staff
and
their
expertise.
So
I
am
in
fully
support
of
council
members
rooms,
substitute
motion,
any
more
comments
from
council
members.
C
After
reviewing
the
grand
jury
report
and
the
response,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
fair.
We
I
think
the
City
attorney
has
made
it
clear
that
we
disagree
with
a
lot
of
items.
We
partially
disagree.
We
partially
agree
so
I
I
think
that's
fair
enough,
and
my
hope
is
that
we
take
all
the
findings
seriously
and
move
Beyond.
This
I
mean
it's.
You
know
it
doesn't
make
too
much
sense
to
keep
going
back
to
the
years
when
some
of
these
issues
were
raised.
C
E
To
the
extent
that
you
know,
there's
still
a
lot
of
concern
about
what
the
Civil
grand
jury
relied
on,
whether
it
was
reliable,
Etc,
My,
Hope
Is
that
the
fourth
point,
in
my
suggested
response
to
finding
four
that
the
City
attorney
will
investigate
and
report
back
on.
Other
violations
of
the
municipal
code
with
respect
to
the
council
staff
relationship
will
help
us
to
resolve
what
the
truth
is
in
some
of
these
instances
surface
problems
so
that
we
can
address
it.
E
A
So
I
think
everyone
has
their
say
in
five
minutes.
You
did
our
manual
says
everybody
got
five
minutes
so.
A
D
A
You
have
it
on
the
on
the
on
the
oh
okay:
do
you
think
we
can
have
it
council,
member
from
The
Substitute
on
the
screen?
Again?
Yes,
so
I
know
exactly
which
one
you
are
I'm,
removing.
A
A
Yeah
move
using
the
2018
yeah
I'm
council
member
from.
B
D
More
so
I
would
like
some
more
time
to
finish
my
presentation
regarding
the
two,
the
problem
with
2018
code
of
ethics.
That's
why
this
substitute
motion
so
so
I
can
provide
reasons
for
my
substitute.
A
So
their
support,
emotion
is
the
same
as
the
council
member
froons
subject
of
motion,
but
without
the
sentence
using
the
2018
is
that
correct,
yeah.
A
D
H
Thank
you,
mayor
mask
yes,
procedural
question.
I
I
just
want
to
clarify
from
the
attorney.
So
what
we
just
observed
here,
if
I
understand
correctly,
it's
the
new
procedures,
As
I,
understood
them
that
the
the
mayor
has
the
sole
discretion
to
stop
deliberations
and
go
to
a
vote
that
I
believe
that's
what
I
just
saw.
I
On
an
item
beyond
that,
if
their
the
mayor
feels
there's
a
need
for
additional
discussion,
the
it's
the
at
the
mayor's
discretion
to
allow
that
so.
H
I
The
mayor
mayor
has
discretion
to
allow
additional
time
where,
where
she
believes
additional
time
is
necessary,
any
procedural
decision
of
the
mayor
can
also
be
overruled
by
a
majority
of
vote
of
the
council.
Okay,.
H
D
So
these
are
the
facts
that
I
shared
earlier.
The
item
was
not
on
in
any
of
the
it
was
adopted.
It
was
never
there
before
and
it's
put
on
under
the
agenda
item.
That's
for
improving
communication
with
commission
and
this
item
was
there
was
no
study
session
earlier.
It
was
one
of
the
six
documents
proved
and
the
commissioner
is
staffed.
Report
says
commissions
were
very
supportive,
but
there
is
no
record
of
any
commission
ever
provided
their
support
for
this
code
of
ethics,
and
here
are
the
other
problems
in
item
six
of
that
virgin.
D
It
says
decision
makers
will
base
their
decision
on
facts
presented
at
the
hearing
of
the
law
and
the
law,
which
is
this.
This
requirement
usually
applies
only
for
quasi-judicial
decisions,
not
all
policy
decisions
at
the
council
and
the
I-107
city
officials
will
rely
on
agenda
materials
and
information
received
at
the
public
hearing.
These
are,
and
then
item
8
the
conflict
of
interest.
It
says
an
organization,
an
organizational
anyone
who
is
with
an
organization
that
has
a
strong
personal
bias
to
any
item
that
is
considered
a
conflict
of
interest.
D
D
And
any
council
member
to
use
any
communication
house
meeting
with
community
members
meet
and
other
other
resource
to
make
their
decision
item
8
would
have
prevented
the
bike
and
pet
Commissioners
to
even
make
a
decision,
because
many
of
them
have
strong
opinion
to
Pro
for
a
certain
bike
project
and
sustainability.
Commissioners
would
have
strong,
buy
us
towards
the
sustainability
initiatives
and
they
cannot
vote
so.
This
is
very
I.
I
think
that
the
whole
process
of
that
process
that
the
adoption
of
that
we
should
not
start
with
something
that's
still
problematic.
That
start
fresh.
A
A
You
did,
but
that's
okay,
because
since
councilman
Richard
used
another
three
minutes
go
ahead.
Use
your
three
minutes.
Okay!
Thank
you.
Three
minutes.
Please.
H
Thank
you
so
I
agree
with
the
the
comments
and
the
the
rationale
from
council
member
Chow.
One
thing
in
particular:
that's
bothersome.
There
is
the
use
only
of
the
materials
that
you're
essentially
handed
by
staff.
H
So
if
you
could
put
that
back
up
on
the
screen,
I
would
like
to
I'd
like
to
see
that
wording
again
because
for
multiple
projects
they're,
you
know,
staff
staff
is
staff's
great,
but
sometimes
things
don't
get
into
the
packet
that
we
want
to
know
about,
and
here
we've
got
decision
makers
will
base
their
decisions
on
the
facts
presented
at
the
hearing
and
the
law,
which
is
supposed
to
apply
only
for
quasi-judicial
decisions,
so
wow.
So
what
happens?
H
If
we
go
out
and
visit
a
site,
we
take
photographs,
we
take
photographs
from
different
angles
that
maybe
staff
didn't
consider
would
be
important.
Maybe
we
talk
to
the
neighbors
and
we
have
all
this
other
information
or
we
research
somewhere
else
about
something
so
this.
For
me,
this
is
a
real
sticking
point
for
the
kinds
of
information
that
we
have
in
order
to
make
our
decisions
and
I
don't
think
we
should
be
starting
from
this.
This
point
and
we're
going
to
have
a
future.
H
You
know
perhaps
argument
over
over
this,
and
are
we
really
going
to
tie
our
hands
this
way?
Thank
you.
E
Yes,
so
I'm
I'm
only
asking
in
the
motion
that
we
start
with
the
2018
ethics
policy
as
a
starting
point,
it
doesn't
mean
that
it
is
the
what
I'm
asking
for
is
a
resurrection
of
the
2018
policy,
so
I
trust
the
City
attorney
to
bring
back
a
policy
that
is
consonant
with
our
procedures
manual.
That
is
consonant
with
our
other
policies.
In
order
to
be
able
to.
Let
us
move
forward
on
this
topic.
The
rest
of
the
2018
ethics
policy
is
considerably
stronger
than
what
it
was
replaced
by
and
when
it
was
originally
passed.
C
I
I
believe
that
that
is
the
request
of
the
first
substitute
of
both
the
first
and
second
substitute
motions
on
the
table.
I
guess
the
first
specifically
edura
is
directed
at
the
the
2018
ethics
policy,
which.
C
I
Come
back
so
that
that
would
come
back
for
for
consideration
by
Council.
You
know
perhaps
as
part
of
the
the
work
program
for
next
year.
D
You
yeah,
okay,
I
think
we
are
so.
My
main
issue
is
with
the
term
as
a
starting
point.
You
could
bring.
That
could
be
one
of
the
one
of
the
documents
we
review
together
with
other
potential
options,
but
as
a
starting
point,
it's
very
problematic.
That
document
was
a
violation
of
brown
act
when
it
was
adopted
because
it
wasn't
agendased
as
code
of
ethics.
The
public
didn't
even
know
it's
on
the
agenda.
They
couldn't
comment
on
it.
Okay,.
A
So
council,
member
from
you,
had
something
else
to.
A
A
So,
let's
put
it
on
the
screen:
okay,
let's
put
on
the
screen,
please
the
one
that
council
member
from
made
are
the
sub
emotion
but
cross
out
the
one
that
council
member
Charles
doesn't
want.
A
C
D
So
I
think
we
should
not
be
pounded.
We
should
not
pound
our
hand
with
the
starting
point.
That's
that
could
be
considered
as
one
of
the
documents
we
review
on
in
the
study
session.
No
I
think
we
should.
We
can
consider
others
on
Code
of
Ethics
from
other
cities,
but
that's
not
start
with
a
failed
one.
So
we
we
have
more
positive.
A
E
If
I
may
Madam
mayor,
so
one
of
my
reasons
for
focusing
on
the
2018
report
policy
is
because
the
Civil
grand
jury
report
specifically
cites
it.
What
we
wind
up
with
could
be
a
very
significant
departure.
I
think
this
is
a
stronger
response,
because
it
is
more
directly
responsive
to
the
Civil
grand
jury
report.
D
A
Content,
okay,
so
I
think
we
have
explained
ourselves
so,
let's
vote
by
light,
please
this
is
the
subject:
emotion
without
the
2018.
G
A
A
Yes,
as
a
starting
point,
use
2018
go
to
messages
starting
point,
let's
vote
by
like
please.
D
Okay,
a
question
to
the
City
attorney
so
in
my
I
was
I
pushed
the
abstain
actually
earlier
and
it
didn't
light
up,
but
can
I
abstain
on
this
item
because
of
my
objection
to
one
of
the
items.
I
really
don't
feel
comfortable
with
starting
with
a
failed,
very,
very
problematic
code
of
ethics.
It's.
B
A
K
Thank
you
Mary
way.
I
do
need
a
little
technical,
difficult
assistance.
K
City
clerk
will
help
me
so
I
well
start
with
my
presentation,
while
Kirsten
brings
it
up
take
your
time.
So
this
is
a
follow-up
ordinance
amendment
to
council,
following
up
on
the
January
25th
special
meeting,
to
do
several
changes
to
the
Ordnance
Municipal
Code
relating
to
legislative,
Review,
Committee,
Economic,
Development,
Committee,
environmental
Review,
Committee
design,
Review
Committee.
In
addition
to
the
audit
committee
next
slide,.
K
K
Again,
the
agenda
for
tonight
I
have
one
over
the
objective
for
council's
consideration.
I
will
be
going
over
the
reasons
for
for
recommendation
of
each
of
the
committee,
as
laid
out
in
the
staff
report,
conclude
my
presentation
with
staff's
recommendation
and
open
questions
from
Council
and
members
of
the
public
next
slide.
K
K
Second,
we're
asking
Council
to
consider
the
dismantment
of
Economic
Development
Committee
as
it
laid
out
Municipal
Code,
section
2.96
that
was
in
act
in
2022,
described
the
functions
and
responsibility
of
this
committee.
What
staff
is
recommending
is
to
repel
the
ordinance
completely
and
also
to
establish
economic
development
working
group.
This
is
at
the
alternative
reasons,
for
a
working
group
is
to
allow
more
flexibility
to
Pivot
more
quickly
to
immediate
interest.
K
This
will
serve
as
an
advisory
capacity
to
staff
on
a
as
needed
basis,
allowing
for
tailored
discussion,
and
this
will
also
include
an
array
of
business
and
also
business
serving
agencies
both
locally
and
regionally
so
without
having
a
wrong
act
body.
This
allows
for
a
lot
more
flexibility
to
Pivot
to
the
interest
of
the
topic
at
the
time.
Next
slide.
K
Continuing
on
the
economic
development
committee
future
Arrangement,
this
working
group
will
meet
hopefully
in
the
spring
or
summer
time
frame,
and
the
group
of
focus
on
assessing
current
program
and
developing
a
holistic
framework
and
staff
can
provide
updates
to
Council
on
the
discussions
and
the
progress
that
are
made
regularly
at
council's
desire.
Please
note
that
this
is
an
alternative
following
council's
promotion,
if
Council
would
like
to
provide
any
more
guidance
or
direction,
we're
more
than
happy
to
to
implement
this
working
group
will
not
require
any
action
by
Council.
K
Environmental
Review
Committee
again
background
the
municipal
code,
section
2.84,
enacted
environmental
Review
Committee
in
1990,
and
what
staff
is
recommending
is
to
again
repel
the
ordinance
entirely
and
to
amend
section
chapter
9.20.
This
is
a
review
of
offside,
Hazardous,
Waste
Facility,
to
address
any
environmental
Review
Committee
functions
in
that
chapter
and
also
we're
asking
council
at
the
time
to
also
establish
a
new
chapter
relates
to
California
Environmental
Quality
act,
sequel
to
make
sure
that
there
is
compliance
with
the
state
SQL
guidance
next
slide
as
part
of
the
environmental
Review
Committee.
K
We're
also
asking
Council
to
consider
activating
a
local
assessment
committee
that
has
not
been
active
to
review
any
sort
of
offsite
has
this
waste
facility
that
should
include
issues
related
to
secret
review.
This
is
again,
like
I,
said
a
dormant
committee,
but
it
is
a
committee
that
has
been
fully
described
in
our
municipal
code
in
section
I.
Don't
have
it
I
think
it's
chapter
19.
K
Continuing
to
design
Review
Committee
design,
Review
Committee
has
been
with
the
city
for
some
time
in
in
its
duties.
It's
a
subcommittee
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
its
Duty
has
been
described
in
section
2.90
of
the
City
municipal
code.
Again,
staff
is
recommending
the
entire
ordinance
to
be
repelled
and
also
to
delegate
the
authority
of
design
review
to
either
Planning
Commission
or
staff.
This
will
amend
section
2.32-070h
to
remove
any
reference
to
establishment
of
design.
K
Review
Committee
next
slide,
and
this
chart,
as
included
in
the
staff
report,
provides
you
an
a
summary
of
what
sort
of
a
permit
that
will
used
to
be
hurt
by
the
design.
Review
Committee
and
in
the
future
will
be
heard
either
by
the
Planning,
Commission
or
administrative
hearing.
For
instance,
a
signed
exception
will
continue
to
go
to
Planning
Commission
offense
exception
will
go
to
administrative
hearing.
Asa
permits
for
the
decorative
statutory
project
will
also
go
to
administrative
hearing
next
slide.
K
So
the
prior
slides
conclude
staff's
recommendation
on
what
happened
on
January
25th,
based
on
council's
Direction.
This
is
a
recommendation
coming
from
audit
committee,
so
the
audit
committee
convened
during
their
January
meeting
and
voted
unanimously
to
recommend
the
council
amend
certain
financial
reporting
requirements,
including
sound
requirements.
That's
been
codified
in
the
municipal
code.
So
specifically,
the
audit
committee
recommend
that
the
monthly
investment
report
to
be
provided
to
the
city
council
via
an
off
agenda
memo
and
that
the
city
council
amend
the
committee's
jurisdiction
to
review
only
quarterly
investment
reports
for
the
audit
committee.
K
This
wraps
up
all
of
the
changes
to
the
ordinance
that
staff
is
recommending
recommending
to
complete
my
presentation.
Staff
is
asking
Council
to
adopt
a
resolution
regarding
legislative
Review
Committee
to
conduct
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
Amendment
related
to
the
various
committee
that
I
just
mentioned
in
my
staff
report,
and
this
will
come
back
as
a
second
reading
and
the
ordinance
itself
will
take
effect
30
days
after
the
second
reading
and
we're
also
asking
Council
to
find
your
actions
to
be
exam
from
the
sequel
guideline.
K
Next
slide,
I
believe.
That
concludes
my
presentation
and,
more
than
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
you
have.
A
Thank
you,
city
manager,
Wu.
Now
we
have
five
minutes
of
each
council
members
to
ask
questions.
Anybody
wants
to
post
a
question.
First
council
member
ciao,
yeah.
D
So
first
I
think
I
would
like
the
staff
to
clarify
regarding
the
legislative,
Review
Committee.
That
resolution
in
2018
was
adopted
before
I
got
on
the
console.
Actually
I
didn't
know
there
is
that
resolution
and
and
then
we
were,
we
had
assignment
to
legislative
Review
Committee
and
none
of
the
City
attorney
in
2019
or
thereafter
has
expressed
any
concern
that
this
is
not
complying
with
municipal
code
and
I.
Think
City
attorney
Christiansen
has
not
brought
that
to
our
attention
until
I
see
this
agenda
for
February
21st.
I
Yeah
yeah
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
that
so
yeah,
that's
a
fair
characterization.
This
is
not
something
that
I
had
focused
on
I
I
did
in
preparing
this
agenda
item
for
Council
I
I,
I
reviewed
the
municipal
code
provisions
and
I
identified.
The
provision
cited
in
your
staff
report
and
I
do
believe.
There's
an
inconsistency
between
delegating
the
authority
to
take
legislative
positions
to
a
subcommittee
in
that
provision
of
the
municipal
code
and.
J
I
Reflected
in
the
staff
report
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
that
this
has
been
a
long-standing
policy
of
this
this
city,
but
I
do
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
correct
it
and
bring
it
in
line
with
the
municipal
code.
If
Council
wished
to
go
in
a
different
direction.
Of
course,
we
could
consider
changes
to
the
visible
code.
D
Yeah
I
actually
agree
with
your
assessment
that
bill
positions
should
be
taken
by
the
full
Council,
but
just
to
clarify,
but
previous
Council
didn't
just
delegate
the
entire
Authority.
They
did
adopt
the
legislative
platform
which
was
approved
by
the
council
and
then
specify
what
they
they
could
support
the
oppose
or
monitor
right.
D
And
so
I
contacted
you
and
asking
the
the
draft
resolution
we
have
today
gives
this
misinterpretation
misperception
that
somehow
the
council
was
not
complying
with
the
Municipal
Court
could
have
you
considered
any
wording
to
clarify
the
council
did
follow
the
recommendation
by
the
previous
City
attorney.
I
So
I
haven't
had
a
conversation
with
the
previous
City
attorney.
So
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
confirm
that.
But
I
would
say
that
you
know
that
the
discussion
of
the
municipal
code
is
not
necessary
for
adoption
of
the
resolution
and,
if
count
its
council's
desire
to
strike
that
that
recital
from
the
resolution
that
would
not
affect
the
ability
of
the
resolution.
D
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
and
council
member
Moore.
H
K
H
Okay,
so
specifically
through
through
the
the
mayor,
which
are
the
reports
that
are
being
altered.
K
K
H
Why,
okay,
so
an
informational
item
that
no
member
of
the
public
can
speak
on
one
when
that
item's
being
reviewed,
it
would
only
be
during
oral
Communications
if
members
of
the
public
understand
the
new
process
that
they
could
use
their
three
minutes
to
either
speak
about
a
topic
that
they're
interested
in
want
to
share,
or
if
there
were
say
seven
informational
items.
They
would
only
have
three
minutes
to
be
able
to
address
any
of
those
which
seems
very
unfair.
H
So
I
just
want
to
understand
that
this
off
agenda
memo
means
that
the
public
really
isn't
going
to
have
time
to
talk
about
it
and
that's
kind
of
a
problem,
because
this
is
about
our
money.
Okay,
so
could
someone
from
staff
please
put
up
the
the
the
sentence
in
the
municipal
code?
That's
being
altered
so
that
I
can
understand,
because
I'm
not
really
sure
what
what
that
change
actually
is.
I
You
can
do
that
if
you
I.
H
So
does
does
staff
write
the
investment
report
because
I
thought
the
investment
report
was
done
by
Chandler
and
U.S
bank
and
then
it's
brought
to
the
currently.
It's
actually
brought
to
the
audit
committee
on
a
monthly
basis
and
the
receipts,
disbursements
and
fund
balances
are
brought
to
the
audit
committee
on
a
monthly
basis
and
we
had
also
started
having
the
accounts
payable
come
to
the
audit
committee
and
what
this
was
providing
was
a
second
set
of
eyes.
So
I
do
do
I
understand
that
correctly.
K
H
H
That
line
in
the
municipal
code
changes
the
review
of
the
monthly
treasurer's
report
to
now
be
reviewing
the
quarterly
treasurer's
investment
report,
which
is
a
report
that
is
under
California
government
code.
53607.
H
4.
regularly,
at
least
once
each
month,
the
city
treasurer
shall
submit
to
the
city
clerk
a
written
report
in
accounting
of
all
receipts
disbursements
and
fund
balances.
So
I
also
want
to
bring
this
up.
With
regards
to
the
show
me,
the
money,
the
grand
jury
report
didn't
mention
the
fact
that
the
quarterly
treasurer's
reports
were
supposed
to
be
monthly
I
mean
quarterly.
H
Subject
to
review
the
legislative
body
May
renew
the
delegation
of
authority
pursuant
to
this
selection
each
year,
I
think
Council
was
wise
in
the
past
to
have
put
this
item
in
the
hands
of
the
audit
committee,
so
they
would
have
a
first
set
of
eyes.
Looking
at
these
documents,
and
now
this
recommendation
takes
that
away
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly.
H
A
A
A
A
K
Off
agenda
memo
informational
item,
the
quarterly:
let's
see
quarterly
Treasures
investment
report
will
come
to
Auto
committee
first
and
then
it
will
be
transmitted
to
council,
okay,
and
that
will
be
a
quarterly
report
that
will
be
a
quarterly
investment
treasury.
A
A
It
first
okay
Vice,
if.
C
I
could
make
a
quick
comment.
The
public
will
be
seeing
all
the
reports
that
are
currently
on
the
agenda.
It's
just
going
to
look
a
little
different,
but
there
is
nothing
and
I
repeat
nothing
that
will
restrict
their
ability
to
look
at
the
the
accounts
payable
register
or
the
or
the
treasurer's
report.
So
the
only
difference
is
that
they
will
not
be
coming
through
the
audit
committee
before
they
come
to
the
council.
They
will
come
directly
to
the
council,
except
for
the
quarterly
Treasures
investment
report.
So.
A
E
Yeah
no
I'll
just
Echo
the
vice
mayor's
comments.
I
think
that
they
are
are
a
correct
reflection
of
what
is
happening
and
no
one
knows
Finance
like
the
vice
mayor.
So.
A
D
D
B
K
D
K
D
D
I
The
council
can
set
its
own
agenda,
I.
Think
the
city
manager's
recommendation
reflects
an
attempt
to
move
our
meetings
more
away
from
from
managing
operational
aspects
of
the
city
and
towards
a
greater
degree
of
focus
on
policy
issues.
So
in
that
sense,
this
recommendation
is
is
is,
is,
is
sort
of
a
continuation
of
the
discussion
that
we
just
finished.
Regarding
the
grand
jury
report
on.
D
H
So
I
want
to
verify
that
government
code,
41004
and
53607
these
these
requirements
in
the
government
code
have
been
around
for
many
years.
I
know
for
a
fact
that
four
one
zero
zero
four
goes
goes
back
to
at
least
19
1949
I
believe
any
idea
how
far
back
53607
goes.
I'm
just
wondering
if
these
were
in
place,
when
perhaps
the
vice
mayor
was
our
interim
finance
manager,
because
this
was
not
being
followed.
H
H
K
K
A
Okay,
so,
okay,
so
the
question
is
done:
we're
gonna
go
to
public
comment.
Do
we
have
cards.
G
Yes,
Mary
we
have
two
cards
in-house
and
one
so
people
are
starting
to
raise
their
hands.
So
please
have
your
hands
raised
within
the
first
nine
minutes,
as
well
as
having
any
blue
speaker
cards.
So
we
have
Jennifer,
Griffin
and
Rhoda
fry
welcome.
Jennifer.
F
Thank
you,
city,
council,
I'm,
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
elimination
or
changing
of
four
of
our
committees
in
the
city.
I've,
frankly,
never
seen
anything
like
this
before,
along
with
the
agenda,
it's
it
raises
a
lot
of
concerns.
I
personally
think
the
legislative
Review
Committee
has
been
one
of
the
most
fundamental
things
in
my
life.
F
Currently,
it
is
fostered
a
great
interest
in
legislative
issues
that
are
going
on
in
California
other
states
and
nationally
I
will
say
right
now
that
we
there
is
a
hostile
body,
pushing
laws
through
in
the
state
that
this
year
are
trying
to
push
SB
35
to
Limitless
times
they're
trying
to
eliminate
sequa
in
all
forms,
and
it
is
important
for
the
public
to
have
access
to
things
like
the
legislative
review,
because
this
is
their
life
their
times.
Their
history
and
I
will
tell
you
right
now.
I
have
been
because
of
what's
been
happening.
F
I
have
been
pushed
to
look
to
see
what
my
ancestors
did
in
Virginia.
I
have
found
things
in
there
why
they
went
to
the
fight
that
they
did
and
they
lost
lives.
You
know
it.
This
is
how
bad
it
is.
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
design
Review
Committee,
we
annexed
my
neighborhood
annexed
and
we
use
the
design
Review
Committee
because
of
the
monster
houses
that
were
going
in
County
Cupertino
had
problems
with
them
and
I
really
really
am
offended
that
someone
would
be
getting
rid
of
the
DRC
when
I
spent
so
much
of
my
life.
F
It
makes
me
feel
like
insulted
like
that,
I,
that
everything
I
did
in
that
time
was
not
worth
it
and
who
are
they
to
say
that
what
I
did
was
worthless?
It
isn't
it's
our
state
we
get
to
decide.
This
is
the
public
and
I'm
also
concerned
about
this
thing
about
I.
Don't
really
know
what
the
audit
committee
is,
but
why
are
they
making
all
these
recommendations?
F
I
did
not
major
in
accounting
or
anything
like
that,
but
I'm
very,
very
concerned
that
that
this
items
that
the
audit
committee
are
saying,
it's
like
it
raises
the
red
flags
and
the
ERC
no
way.
I
have
two
relatives
that
pre
that
had
illnesses
and
died
from
them
and
they
were
probably
from
contaminated
military
or
work
sites.
F
I
have
another
brother
who
has
sustained
health
issues
because
he
worked
at
a
Superfund
Site
when
he
was
19
years
old
in
Mountain
View,
and
it
is
still
listed
as
a
super
fun
site.
You
cannot
have
housing
on
it,
I
I
question
again:
why
are
we
getting
rid
of
all
these
things?
I?
Don't
think
that
the
new
city
council
knows
better
I
I'm
very,
very
concerned
about
this.
Thank
you.
L
Hi
good
evening
again,
Rhoda
Frye
for
you
here,
president
of
Cupertino,
yeah
I-
would
have
used
different
words,
but
I
concur
with
Miss
Griffin's
sentiments.
L
There's
such
a
long
list
that
I
went
ahead
and
I
got
the
agenda
outside.
So
I
could
remember
all
of
the
things
that
are
are
changing.
Look
we
had
this
massive
embezzlement.
I
can't
imagine
that
it
was
the
only
thing
that
happened
or
the
only
thing
that's
left
to
be
cleaned
up,
so
we
need
eyes
and
we
need.
L
We
need
transparency,
and
so,
if
we
can
get
more
transparency,
it's
that
would
be
good
which
actually,
in
the
way
the
legislative,
Review
Committee
I'd
like
to
make
that
same
comment
as
well.
L
Hopefully,
the
work
that
I
know
it's
been
mentioned,
but
I'd
like
to
see
it
happen
that
maybe
we
actually
have
a
section
in
our
city
council
meetings
that
has
section
of
legislative
review
and
it
comes
to
this
body
and
so
every
agenda
item.
We
have
legislative
review
what's
going
on
in
the
state
if
we
can't
have
it
in
the
committee.
Let's
have
it
in
the
council
and
have
it
agendized
and
if
there's
nothing
going
on,
then
you
say:
there's
nothing,
but
please
have
it
on
the
agenda.
L
We
need
to
know
how
our
state
laws
are
affecting
us
in
Cupertino
on
the
economic
development
working
group.
It's
concerning
that
it
seems
like
it's
a
opaque.
L
How
I'd
like
to
be
a
member?
How
can
I
become
a
member
I
own
a
business
in
Cupertino
and
I
would
like
to
be
a
member,
and
you
know
if
you
guys
have
trouble
for
the
minutes.
I
understood
there
was
an
issue
having
staff.
Potentially
writing
amendments.
I
I'd
be
very
happy
to
provide
minutes
to
that
body.
We
need
to
know
what's
going
on
and
need
to
have
a
community.
That's
why
we're
here
right!
That's
why
we
have
a
stat,
a
wonderful
staff.
L
That's
why
we
have
a
city
council
and
that's
why
we
have
residents,
because
we
want
to
work
together
to
make
things
better
for
our
city,
design,
Review
Committee
on
that
one.
You
know
I
frankly,
I
think
architecture
in
Cupertino
is
pretty
hideous.
Other
cities
do
have
active
design
review
committees
to
see
it.
Obviously
it
hasn't
met
in
a
long
time
and
that's
quite
obvious,
because
Cupertino
is
getting
uglier
by
the
day
and
I
think
that
we
should
have
appropriate
design.
L
Review
Committee,
that
is,
that
has
even
has
Architects,
like
other
cities,
do
on
their
design,
review
committees
and
same
thing.
Environmental
review
couldn't
have
stated
it
better
than
Ms
Griffin
I
also
was
an
appointed
member
of
that
body
and
I
found
it
to
be
very
useful
for
the
city
and
I'm
sad
to
see
it
go.
It
should
also
be
something
that's
it
all
these
things
should
be
actually
agendized
on
our
agendas.
Thank
you
all.
G
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
Cupertino
already
has
one
publicly
traded
biotech
company,
and
my
understanding
is
that
some
of
the
Valco,
the
rise
as
it's
now
called
commercial
space,
is
being
designed
for
biotech
under
other
lab
related
companies
which
don't
provide
for
work
from
home.
You
have
to
work
and
lab,
so
I
am
urging
you
to
approve
all
of
the
staff
recommendations
to
streamline
our
city
governance
processes.
N
Good
evening,
council
members
and
staff
I
support
the
comments
made
by
Jennifer
Griffin
and
Rhoda
Frye
I
find
that
this
action
appears
to
be
a
way
to
eliminate
committees
with
established
members
and
recreate
them
with
your
new
preferences,
it's
sold
as
a
reduction
of
committees,
but
in
reality
you're
replacing
two
of
them
with
your
own
different
names.
N
The
economic
advisory
working
group
is
a
replacement
for
the
economic
development
committee.
The
economic
development
committee
was
transparent,
the
it
had
a
wide
range
of
members:
nine
members,
two
city
council,
Tech
sector,
retail,
small
business,
Hospitality
education,
commercial
sustainability,
Tech
and
two
of
which
were
Cupertino
residents.
This
was
this
was
variety
you're
on
ad
hoc
working
group
is
for
City
staff,
two
council
members,
one
Planning
Commission
and
four
reps
from
the
chamber.
N
The
chamber
has
approximately
200
members.
The
city
has
2
000
business
licenses.
You
are
not
representing
the
majority
of
the
business
community
in
our
city.
This
is
not
it's.
This
is
a
pay
to
play
and
there's
no
documents,
no
minutes
the
public
can
attend.
It
happens
behind
closed
doors.
This
is
not
transparent.
N
The
environmental
Review
Committee
replaces
another
committee.
You
just
mentioned
why
there's
an
established
codified
committee
with
men
with
with
minutes
and
members.
This
is
just
a
way
to
eliminate
the
people
and
pick
your
own
people.
This
is
not
helping
our
businesses.
This
is
not
helping
our
environment.
Thank
you.
O
O
P
P
P
P
It's
really
sobering,
I
guess
what's
happening,
but
I
will
I
I
sort
of
wish.
I
didn't
say
that
part.
But
it's
it's
a
truth.
P
P
A
Thank
you,
mother
city
clerk.
Thanks
for
all
the
public
comments,
I'm
going
to
bring
it
back
to
council
for
discussion
for
five
minutes
each
who
would
like
to
start.
H
Member
Moore,
thank
you.
I'm
just
gonna
make
a
very
brief
comment.
I
think
this
agenda
item
had
too
many
parts
to
it.
It
should
be
broken
up
into
each
separate
committee
and
so
that
the
public
can
understand
it
better
and
review
each
item
with
more
thoroughly.
With
regards
to
you
know
just
one
item,
the
design
Review
Committee:
they
do
have
access
to
an
architect,
there's
a
whole
section
in
the
municipal
code.
On
that,
that's
that's
being
changed.
H
So
I
have
served
on
the
Planning
Commission,
the
environmental
Review
Committee
for
gosh
it's
four
years
there.
Let's
see
the
legislative
Review
Committee
as
well,
and
I
worked
along
with
the
previous
council.
With
regards
to
the
economic
development
committee,
the.
H
Selecting
the
that
new
committee
membership,
so
the
with
regards
to
the
economic
development
committee,
I
I
wrote
an
email
which
is
included
in
the
agenda
packet
back
in
2019,
addressing
the
problems
with
with
the
economic
development
committee
and
with
regards
to
the
brown
Act,
because
it
had
been
in
existence
since
1996,
and
it
was
comprised
of
I
believe
this
was
already
stated
for
a
chamber
of
commerce,
members
and
I
believe
there's
around
200
businesses
that
belong
to
the
Chamber
of
Commerce.
H
One
of
the
things
I
did
last
year
was
get
the
business
licenses
promoted
to
have
those
put
online.
We
have
over
2500
licensed
businesses
in
in
Cupertino.
H
In
contrast,
I
also
collected
all
of
the
economic
development
committee
meeting
minutes
since
its
Inception
and
those
are
also
available
in
the
agenda
packet.
If
people
would
like
to
actually
take
a
look
at
what
they
were
doing,
because
you
might
be
surprised
because
you
had
four
four
chamber
members:
four
staff
members,
two
members
of
the
council
and
one
planning
commissioner.
So
it's
I
seriously
suggest
that
you
take
a
look
I'm,
deeply
concerned
and
dismayed
at
the
suggestion
of
having
a
working
group.
H
I
appreciate
that
an
alternative
suggestion
was
made
to
the
council,
but
every
effort
was
made
by
the
previous
Council
in
order
to
bring
about
transparency
and
accountability
with
with
the
economic
development
committee,
so
that
the
public
would
know
how
the
individuals
were
selected.
It
was
a
public
process.
H
Those
meeting
minutes
to
my
knowledge
haven't
come
to
the
council
from
from
that
meeting,
I
I'm,
look
it
up
and
and
we
provided
the
ability
for
the
public
to
have
all
the
meeting
minutes
and
every
all
of
the
information
about
what
they
were
doing
because
some
of
the
earlier
meeting
minutes
when
it
was
previously
happening.
It
looked
as
though
staff
was
coordinating
to
try
to
assist
particular
business
members.
So
that's
why
I
think
you
should
really
take
a
look,
because
it's
it's
some
some
curious
things
happen.
H
There
I
I
am
concerned
that
the
the
current
audit
committee
is
not
wanting
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
do
the
work.
H
That
is
tasked
for
them
in
the
municipal
code,
and
so,
as
I
said,
I
had
been
on
the
audit
committee
and
I
chaired
the
audit
committee,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
struck
me
was
that
I
was
reading
what
the
codified
requirements
of
it
were,
and
it
became
very
clear
that
we
were
supposed
to
be
looking
at
monthly
reports
and
that
audit
committee
had
only
been
meeting
as
little
as
three
times
a
year
and
there's
so
they
were.
H
They
were
not
doing
what
what
they
were
tasked
to
do
and
it
seemed
like
a
very
innocent
question
and
then
it
snowballed
into
wow.
We
haven't
been
doing
our
job,
for
this
committee
hasn't
been
doing
their
their
job
for
for
decades,
and
the
finance
department
had
not
been
directing
that
committee
because
there
that's,
where
our
liaison
is
from.
They
weren't
directing
that
committee
to
do
their
job
and
now
that
it's
been
discovered
and
it's
and
we've
had
a
few
months
and
we've
had
this
response
to
the
grand
jury.
H
About
how
we're
looking
at
things
and
being
very
transparent
about
it,
it's
being
rolled
back
so
that
that's
that's
really
upsetting
one
of
the
benefits
we
get
moving
on
to
the
environmental
Review
Committee,
one
of
the
benefits
that
we
get
from
the
environmental
Review
Committee.
Is
we
get
just
like
the
audit
committee?
H
You
get
a
first
set
of
eyes
on
those
environmental
impact
reports,
the
mnds
and
it
isn't
just
coming
to
the
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
to
council,
because
if
you've
looked
at
the
these
environmental
reports,
they
are
thousands
of
pages
they're
really
long
and
you
do
want
to
have
as
many
touches
on
it
as
possible,
so
that
people
are
having
an
opportunity
to
look
at
it.
And
it's
the
same
with
the
audit
committee.
H
We've
had
14-year
embezzlement
and
we
we
need
people
to
look
at
these
these
documents
before
they
come
to
council,
the
the
municipal
code,
the
previous
councils,
who
put
that
in
it
having
the
monthly
treasury
report
reviews
they
had
the
right
idea.
A
C
Mary
I
just
wanted
to
restate
the
responsibilities
or
the
changes.
Alleged
changes
made
to
the
audit
committee
functions.
If
you
look
at
the
amendments,
there
are
basically
two
words
that
have
changed
in
in
the
new
duties
Powers.
The
monthly
has
been
changed
to
quarterly,
and
the
treasurer's
report
has
been
clarified
to
say,
treasurer's
investment
report.
We
have
only
met
once
we
have
probably
discussed
what
the
audit
committee
has
or
hasn't
done
for
a
much
longer
time
than
we
have
actually
had
the
meeting.
C
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
let
me
State
one
other
thing
another
set
of
eyes:
that's
always
a
good
thing,
but
the
set
of
eyes
that
we
as
an
audit
committee,
I
suppose
or
as
a
city
council
are
supposed
to
provide,
are
not
the
detailed
accounting
items.
We
have
Finance,
that's
one
set
of
eyes.
We
have
city
manager,
we
have
another
set
of
eyes
and
hopefully,
in
between.
There
are
other
sets
of
eyes.
C
Looking
at
these
reports,
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that
we
as
city
council
would
would
be
have
have
the
need
to
look
into
specific
items
of
the
accounts
payable
register,
especially
that
councilman
council
member,
more
appears
to
reference
the
accounts
payable.
It's
done.
We
have
made
the
payments.
These
are
items
that
have
already
been
purchased
and
the
checks
have
already
been
cut.
So
the
I'm
not
sure
what
it
is
that
we
will
be
reviewing
other
than
to
maybe
say:
why
did
we
do
this
so
and
which
is
not
part
of
the
accounts
payable?
C
That's
a
completely
different
set
of
discussions
to
have.
Why
did
we
Pace
this
person
so
much
that
but
I'm
not
clear
that?
That's
something
that
we
can
discuss
as
part
of
an
accounts
payable
discussion?
That's
all
I
have
to
say.
A
So
I
like
to
take
my
five
minutes
to
a
few
say,
a
few
things
I
want
to
start
with,
can
I
have
my
five
minutes.
Curiously,
thank
you.
I'd
like
to
start
with
the
legislative
Review
Committee
I've
been
listening
to
it.
I
think
it
costs
us
400
a
day
a
year
to
do
it
and
all
I
heard
was
a
lot
of
complaint
and
then
yes,
yes,
we
did
write
letters
to
the
legislators.
A
Have
they
been
effective
to
me
it's
more
effective
if
we
go
with
the
Cal
cities,
legislative
action
put
our
cities
together
and
fight
for
local
control.
That
legislative
will
committee
I
do
believe
in
his
country,
Council
I.
Think
five
of
us
need
to
make
that
decision,
neither
two
of
it
and
the
the
money
we
spend
on
lobbyists
and
the
hours
the
staff
put
on
it
for
us
to
write,
very
effective,
effective
letters
to
the
legislatures,
I.
Don't
think,
that's
the
best
time
to
use
our
staff
time
and
our
money.
A
A
Everybody
knows
that
it's
abstained
from
odd
votes.
It
really
needs
to
come
to
the
new
Council
to
do
it.
10
days
before
the
new
council
is
running,
it's
not
a
good
way
to
do
it,
and
also
how
does
it
say
we
have
economic
direct
director.
She
is
had
expertise,
she's.
You
know
working
on
this
Economic
Development.
How
am
I
going?
Are
we
going
to
have
seven
or
nine
members?
Nine
members,
nine
members,
that's
going
to
represent
one
little
fraction
to
be
able
to
do
this.
I,
don't
see
how
this
could
be
done.
A
I
would
like
to
trust
our
economic
director
Tina
Kapoor,
to
work
on
this.
First,
we
can
always
evaluate
whether
it's
effective
or
not,
people
can
plan
the
chamber
only
represent
200
of
the.
How
many
you
know
registered
business.
Remember.
A
lot
of
registered
businesses
license
they're
one
person
at
home.
If
you're
accountant,
if
you're
real
estate
agent,
you
register,
if
chamber,
represents
200
and
we
have
nine
members
represent
one
profession,
each
I.
Don't
know
which
one
is
more
effective,
but
I'm
not
saying
that
we're
going
to
give
to
the
chamber
I
trust
our
staff.
A
A
The
2014
has
nothing
to
do
with
vice
mayor
Mohan,
I
founded
the
state
is
stateful
to
completely
always
say
it
during
the
meetings
to
attack
I
found
that
that
doesn't
build
any
credibility
or
any
relationship,
so
I
hope
that
stops
and
on
December
14th
when
that
stopped
it
actually
because
of
the
new
enterprise
resource
planning
software
new
world,
that's
being
installed
that
the
current
finance
department
actually
traced
it
and
founded
out
in
2018,
this
Council
or
previous
Council
had
no
crediting
it,
and
actually,
if
I,
want
to
repeat
one
more
time
that
we
had
SD
manager,
Jim
tube,
who
was
Finance
expert,
he
credited
our
finance
department
for
tracing
it
find
it.
A
We
got
most
of
the
money
back.
So
I
am
really
tired
of
listening
to
this
2014
investment
and
and
saying
that
our
staff
is
going
to
make
or
they're
not
honest.
They're
going
to
be,
you
know,
make
a
lot
of
mistakes.
Yes,
we
are
going
to
go
out.
You
know
we,
our
staff
I'm,
going
to
read
this
okay,
in
conjunction
with
the
upgrade
of
the
city's
enterprise
resource
planning
software
in
2014.,
the
city
Incorporated,
a
decentralized
accounting
structure
to
enhance
segregation,
purchasing
and
financial
duties.
A
Our
finance
department
is
doing
their
duty
to
prevent
this
from
happening
again
it
it's
not
something.
If
you
read
clearly
of
what
happened,
it's
not
something
can
be
easily
found
it's
over
14
years
of
investment
from
one
person
and
I
do
believe.
Our
finance
department
is
very
aware
yet
so
I
am
really
tired
of
listening
to
it
to
blend
out
our
invest,
our
financing
part,
especially
to
Blended
our
vice
minimal
hand.
So
I'm
gonna
make
that
clear
that
this
should
not
be
mentioned
again
and
we
we
will
have
a
big
report
on
this
investment.
A
We
got
most
of
money
back
so
I
just
hope
that
we
trust
arguing
that
the
elected
council
members
to
make
sure
that
they
are
as
capable
I
want
to
give
the
council
member
more
her
credit
for
finding
that.
My
time
is
up
for
really,
you
know
get
back
to
finding
a
law
so
that
we
can
have
monthly
report.
Yes,
that
is
really
great
and
councilman
Memorial
I
I
give
credit
to
you.
I
know
you
are
very
diligent,
but
let's
trust
our
newly
elected
council
members.
They
can
do
as
good
a
job
I'm
done.
A
I
think
we
all
use
them
for
five
minutes.
But
if
a
council
member.
A
E
So
I
I
will
largely
Echo
again.
The
vice
mayor's
commentary.
E
I
do
want
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
the
economic
development
committee.
I.
Just
think
that
this
committee,
the
way
that
it
has
constituted,
is
going
to
have
a
very
hard
time
achieving
its
goal
in
particular,
because
it
is
going
to
have
to
be
everything
conducted
in
public
and
everyone
who
is
on.
E
It
will
have
to
be
subject
to
a
form:
700
disclosure,
which
means
that
the
people
whose
expertise
you're
looking
for
can't
have
a
conflict
of
interest
in
the
city
on
the
topic
that
they
want
to
discuss,
and
that
seems
like
it's
going
to
frequently
engender
a
recusal
and
I.
Think
that
that's
going
to
be
a
problem.
I
think
that
the
suggestion
that
the
city
manager
has
made
in
the
staff
report
is
a
good
one.
E
I
think
that
it's
sufficiently
Nimble
I
think
it
allows
for
a
more
Frank
and
open
and
honest
discussion
of
issues
that
would
frankly
not
occur
if
the
meetings
were
forced
to
be
occurring
in
public
in
a
noticed.
Forum
that
is,
is
simply
too
ossified
and
too
difficult
to
react.
In
with
respect
to
the
lrc,
you
know,
I
I
shared
the
the
mayor's
General
view.
E
I
have
watched,
I
think
every
single
lrc
proceeding,
except
for
the
very
first
one
and
it
it
simply
has
not
managed
to
fulfill
its
purpose,
or
at
least
it
has
not
been
able
to
prosecute
the
legislative
agenda
of
the
city
and
I
think
that
very
frequently.
Instead,
it
engenders
the
exact
opposite
response.
E
We
send
a
letter
to
Sacramento
expressing
a
particular
view
on
most
especially
housing
legislation,
and
then
the
result
is
frequently
to
point
to
cupertino's
opposition
as
a
reason
to
support
it
instead,
so
I
think
that
we
have
not
been
particularly
effective
through
that
mechanism,
when
we
should
use
a
different
one
with
respect
to
the
environmental
Review
Committee
I
hope
everyone
understands
very
fully
that
the
functions
of
this
committee
are
not
going
away.
They
are
simply
being
committed
to
different
bodies.
It
will
make
us
a
lot
more
effective.
E
It
will
remove
what
is
frankly,
a
very,
very
strange
structure.
There
is
no
other
city
that
has
an
environmental,
Review,
Committee
structured.
The
way
that
ours
is
so
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
good
and
useful
change.
It
will
also
ensure
that
there
are
fewer
points
in
the
process.
It
will
streamline
development
applications
in
a
way
that
is
better
for
the
city
overall,
for
applicants
and
for
those
who
are
interested
in
commenting
on
the
the
process.
I
also
think
it.
E
E
The
the
state's
push
is,
generally
speaking
toward
objective
Divine
design
standards.
So
if
we
want
to
ensure
that
there's
some
sort
of
meaning
to
our
design
review,
we
need
to
be
adopting
objective
standards
and
putting
that
through
a
different
process.
Those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
J
D
I
asked
the
questions,
but
I
have
not
commented
after
okay
or
the
public
comments.
All
right,
please
yeah
so
I
feel
very
concerned
that
we
are
using
the
word
effective
and
streamlining
to
undermine
transparency
and
accountability,
which
is
essential
in
a
public
agency,
and
especially,
we
use
that
as
using
the
grand
jury
report
which
contain
a
lot
of
false
information
to
say
we
are
doing
this,
it's
very
concerning.
D
If
we
want
to
fix
a
problem,
we
need
to
be
sure
we
have
facts
so
that
we
identify
the
real
problem
where
they're
going
around
and
just
fixing
things
without,
even
knowing,
maybe
we
are
making
things
worse.
That
seems
to
be
what
this
Council
has
been
doing
so
far,
and
I
actually
agree
that
we
should
they
spend
the
legislative
Review
Committee.
But
I
would
like
have
a
question
so
do
we
still
have
a
current
contract
with
lobbyists?
Are
we
going
to
continue
that?
Yes,
we
still
do
and
that's
a
annually
flat
fee
that.
D
K
So
the
lobbyists
that
the
city
retains
is
not
only
to
support
the
legislative
Review
Committee.
They.
J
D
And
and
thank
you,
design,
contract
and
also
I
would
like
to
get
there
and
to
to
know
that
exactly
what
they
are
serving
the
city
for,
so
that
would
be
great
to
know
and
then
they,
so
that
means
they
can
still
provide
Council
legislative
updates,
they're.
D
Okay
and
then
I
want
to
clarify
that
my
I
think
Amendment
for
the
item
in
the
last
study
session
was
not
to
bring
the
working
group
and
it
was
a
little
mischaracterized.
My
intent
was
for
this
to
be
brought
to
a
study
session,
so
the
council
can
discuss
how
best
to
achieve
the
goal
we
need
to
achieve.
D
That
was
original
intended
with
economic
development
committee
and
mayor
Han
mentioned
that
there
are
only
nine
members,
but
that's
specifically
why
this
meeting
has
to
be
a
public
meeting
so
that
member
of
the
public
can
comment
and
others
who
have
Financial
interests
can
serve
on
the
committee.
They
can
always
come
in,
which
is
why
we
have
five
council
members
representing
the
entire
Cupertino,
but
the
ones
who
are
making
decisions
have
to
declare
no
financial
interest
with
the
working
group.
The
Very
concern
is
the
people
who
have
Financial
interests.
D
Who
will
benefit
will
then
now
have
a
backdoor
meeting
with
the
city
staff,
and
would
the
public
will
have
no
idea
what
they
are
talking
about
until
the
annual
report
a
year
later,
and
maybe
all
and
all
this
and
the
people
who
want
to
get
on
the
group
working
group
like
Rhoda,
probably
won't
be
accepted
and
who
this
kind
of
close
to
Door
meeting
has
provided
access
to.
Only
certain
include
certain
Elites
in
Cupertino
and
that's
really
not
a
democratic
process.
D
So
I
still
don't
understand
the
except
the
brown
act
requirement
economically
work,
the
committee,
which
will
bring
economic
benefit
to
Cupertino.
We
cannot
invest
a
little
bit
of
City
staff
hours
to
provide
a
publicly
accessible
that
could
provide
Equitable
access
to
all
the
businesses
and
all
the
public
to
attend
and
understand
what
we
they
are
recommending
to
the
council
and
somehow
that's
not
a
well
spent
of
City
hours
and
time
and
and
if,
if
this
Council
cannot
support
it's
on,
so
we
support
a
more
closed
door.
D
A
Do
we
so
we
are
at
9
35?
Actually
we
were
right
on
time.
So
does
the
council
want
to
have
another
round
of
couple
minutes
input
or
we're?
Okay,
with
a
motion
and
a
second.
A
Okay,
so
I
think
I
don't
see
a
board
of
support
that
we're
going
to
have
a
couple
more
minutes,
but
with
a
motion
a
second,
maybe
we
could
open
up
to
another
couple
minutes
of
support
of
discussion.
Okay,
so
do
we
have
a
motion?
Yes,.
E
So
I
will
I
will
second
but
I'd.
Ask
for
the
city
attorney's
view
on
how
we
need
to
read
the
the
request
for
the
motion.
I
So
so,
I
I
think
that
the
the
motion
could
be
as
simple
as
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendation
and
and
request
that
the
the
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
be
waived.
E
B
K
Deliberation
again,
merway
clarification
council
member
proven.
Can
you
also
clarify
your
position
on
the
resolution.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
give
everybody
a
couple
minutes
to
deliberate
councilman
Memorial.
Do
you
have
your.
H
License
on
yes,
I
do
thank
you,
so
I
would
like
to
have
it
clarified,
perhaps
by
the
the
treasurer
what
the
difference
is
between
the
monthly
Treasures
report
and
the
monthly
investment
report.
H
So
that
is
a
question
and
while
that's,
if
that's
possible
and
then
with
regards
to
the
Gonzalez
question,
if
they're
on
retainer
or
would
their
invoices
explain
what
their
work
has
actually
been
because
I'd
like
to
see
a
copy
of
the
invoices,
if
that
would
show
more
specifically
what
they've
been
working
on.
K
So,
in
terms
of
the
treasures
report,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
administrative
Services
director
to
walk
us
through
of
the
differences
I
will
provide
just
send
out
the
contract
for
our
lobbyists
to
all
Council.
For
your
reference.
We
can
pull
the
invoices
I,
don't
believe
that
it
describes
the
functions
that
they
have
carried.
I
mean
their
invoice
is
not
as
detailed,
but
we
can
definitely
provide
that
to.
Q
The
sun
yeah
I,
want
to
make
sure
so
the
question
was
describe
the
difference
between
the
two
monthly
Treasures
reports
is
that
correct.
H
Correct:
what's
the
difference
between
the
monthly
Treasures
report
and
the
monthly
treasurer's
investment
report
got.
Q
It
so
the
monthly
Treasures
report
specifically
shows
receipts
disbursements
and
fund
balance
on
a
monthly
basis.
The
monthly
treasurer's
investment
report
shows
the
Investments
the
city
has
made
during
that
month
and
also
gives
a
report
of
market
conditions
and
things
that
are
occurring,
so
any
transactions
that
occur
during
that
month
and
an
update
on
market
conditions
for
the
investment
report.
Okay,.
H
If
I
may,
through
the
mayor,
so
those
monthly
investment
reports
are
generated
by
Chandler
and
U.S
Bank.
Is
that
correct.
Q
H
So
the
changes
to
the
municipal
code
will
make
it
so
the
audit
committee
is
no
longer
looking
at
the
monthly
Treasury
service
report,
the
receipts,
disbursements
and
fund
balances.
They
will
no
longer
be
looking
at
that
and
instead
of
looking
at
the
monthly
investment
report
and
having
that
receiving
that
report
from
Carlos
I
believe
it's
namos
that's
going
to
stop.
So
they
would
only
have
a
quarterly
investment
report
from
Chandler
and
U.S
Bank.
That's.
H
Q
You
correct,
and
just
the
point
of
clarification
41004
does
not
have
the
requirement
that
accounts
payable
be
attached
simply
that
receipts,
disbursements
and
fund
balance
be
reported
on
and
so
that
that
accounts
payable
was
added.
As
a
recommendation
of
the
subcommittee
for
the
treasurer's
format,
review.
Okay,
we're
doing
is
taking
the
reporting
back
to
what
is
required
by
the
code.
Okay,.
Q
A
So
I
do
have
a
question
before
you
go
Christina,
so
Auto
reports,
monthly
disbursement
will
come
to
council
correct.
So
all
five
council
members
still
have
our
eyes
on
it.
That's
correct
so
council,
member
Moore,
even
she's,
not
on
the
audit
committee.
She
still
has
eyes
on
all
those
reports.
That's.
Q
H
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
My
time,
I
think
it's
still
running
okay.
So
thank
you
with
regards
to
the
reports
not
coming
to
audit
and
coming
to
council
we're
receiving
so
like
for
this
agenda
item.
H
This
agenda
agenda
is
meeting
I
should
say
the
agenda
came
out
a
Wednesday
evening,
okay
and
now
we're
going
to
have
no
safety
net
of
the
audit
committee,
which
has
three
Finance
individuals
on
it
and,
and
then
the
two
council
members,
so
that
that
was
supposed
to
have
been
our
our
layer
of
expertise
in
the
finance
world
before
it
comes
to
council.
So
we
will
have
agendas
that
will
have
all
of
the
accounts
payable.
H
The
monthly
report,
the
monthly
treasurer's
report,
the
investment
report,
no
pre-check,
no
pre-check,
except
for
once
in
a
while
in
the
investment
report,
and
it's
all
going
to
be
coming
at
meetings
which
will
have
eirs
in
them
and
so
I
I
you're.
Asking
for
this
is
increasing
risk
and
reduces
oversight
and
I.
Think
that's
a
really
it's
a
foolish
idea.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilmember
Moore
I
just
want
to
make
one
clarification.
I
do
read
and
check
everything,
so
I
think
five
eyes
are
pretty
good
and
yeah,
and
you
still
have
the
ice
on
it
too,
because
remember
more
so,
I
want
to
open
up
to
other
people
for
two
minutes.
Please.
D
So
I
think
in
in
the
past,
we
really
have
benefited
from
being
able
for
the
public
or
council
member
to
ask
questions
on
accounts
payable
or
monthly
treasurer's
report
when
it's
on
the
council
agenda,
when
it's
not
just
informational
item
and
now,
if
it's
over
gender
informational
item,
what
we
have
found
out
in
the
past,
for
example,
that
way
of
being
paying
an
organization,
sixteen
thousand
dollars
without
any
contract
that
we
find
out
on
another.
This
organization
receives
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
in
payment
for
a
website
turns
out
that
benefits
their
own
members.
D
So
how
will
the
council
be
able
to
ask
questions
if
we
find
something
we
would
like,
because
the
embezzlement,
if
someone
had
been
looking
at
the
accounts
payable
likely,
someone
would
be
asking?
How
can
we
are
paying
this
organization,
but
now
with
offer
gender
memo?
I
would
like
to
understand.
What's
the
process
for
asking
questions,
so
we
can
bring
up.
Also,
the
council
can
really
provide
oversight.
K
Want
to
answer
through
the
mayor
show
questions
can
still
be
directed
to
staff
once
the
packet
is
released
on
the
Wednesday
prior
to
council
meeting.
If
you
have
any
particular
questions
for
a
item
in
the
staff
report,
we're
more
than
happy
to
provide
a
background
for
you.
D
K
D
E
E
If
we've
deemed
that,
that's
appropriate
I
think
that
this
process
is
much
better
in
terms
of
ensuring
that
you
can
get
your
questions
answered,
you
can
get
them
answered
in
a
professional
fashion
that
doesn't
put
staff
on
the
spot
at
the
last
second
to
explain
some
some
piece
of
of
minor
minutiae
and
instead
we,
if
you
need
to
actually
have
it
on
an
agenda
item.
We
can
do
that
in
the
future.
A
You
do
have
more
discussions,
I
think
we
are
not
going
to
because
I
already
give
extra
time
and
I
do
believe.
It's
time
we
can
put
on
a
vote.
If
that's
okay
with
the
council
members
I
disagree.
D
D
A
A
Do
you
want
second
yeah
I
can
see
that
so
I
don't
have
to
raise
your
hand.
So
let's
go
to
a
vote.
Please.
A
D
Can
I
I
would
like
to
propose
the
motion
because
I
would
I
would
like
I
support
the
legislative
action,
Review
Committee
to
be
even
you're,
going
to
make
a.
D
D
Yeah,
so
my
motion
would
be
adopting
the
resolution
number
23-206
for
on
to
repeal
and
replace
the
resolution
number
18-101
for
regarding
legislative
Review
Committee.
However,
I'd
like
to
remove
the
section
which
I
mentioned
that
my
create
on
misunderstanding
for
on
this
section
that
says
this
legislative
review
can
committee
that
was
established
by
the
previous
2018
Council
does
not
comply
with
Municipal
Code,
because
the
advice
has
changed
so
apparently
previous
comes
the
city
council.
Attorney's
office
did
not
think
so.
Then
adding
this
paragraph
gives
the
incorrect
background
information
about
the
resolution.
A
My
motion
see
your
attorney
Jensen.
Can
we
do
that
yeah.
I
A
H
Would
like
to
second
that
with
a
a
friendly
Amendment,
if
you
would
be
so
kind,
I
would
like
to,
and
you
can
say
no
but
I
would
like
to
retain
2.96
the
economic
development
committee
and
to
strike
the
edit
to
the
audit
committee
2.88,
so
that
the
audit
committee
will
continue
to
review
those
documents
on
a
monthly
basis
and
provide
that
level
of
security.
For
us.
If.
H
So
we
vote
okay,
council
member
child.
Would
you
please
restate
your
original
motion
because
I
don't
think
I
understand
it
correctly.
D
H
A
H
D
B
H
We
vote
on
that
I
have
a
substitute
motion.
Okay,
substitute
motion
that
we
would
approve
the
recommended
action
item
one
and
for
item
two.
We
would
modify
it
to
retain
2.96,
so
we
would
not
be
repealing
it
and
to
remove
the
change
to
2.88,
which
is
under
item
two
and
three
find
the
actions
exempt
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
Act.
H
So
that
we
would
move
to
approve
item
one,
the
adopting
resolution
23.026.
G
H
Vote
I
have
a
comment:
okay,
so
they're
through
the
mayor,
there
was
a
a
mention
about
a
an
entity
which
was
receiving
monies
without
a
contract.
Over
the
past
five
years,
I
was
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
so
and
and
I
do
think
that
information
is
in
the
agenda
packet
and
it
is
an
item
that
we've
been
waiting
since
June
of
last
year
to
come
back
so.
J
A
H
Seeing
the
history
and
I
don't
think
that
there's
been.
A
I
Point
of
order
before
the
vote
may
I
ask
the
clerk
to
read
the
ordinance
by
title.
A
We
are
just
25
minutes.
Do
everybody
want
to
take
a
break?
Does
anybody
need
a
break
if
I
need
a
break
yeah,
please.
Thank
you.
A
Now
we're
going
to
move
into
the
consent
agenda
number
five
and
six:
that's
being
pulled
I
like
to
make
a
motion
to
consider
consent
agenda
6.
First,
we're
gonna,
take
public
comments
on
that.
One
item
two
so
do
I
have
a
second
please.
Second,
so
I
have
a
move
in
a
second
to
to
to
go
over
the
concern
agenda
6
before
constant
gender.
Five
May
I
maybe
have
a
vote.
A
Could
please
vote
with
their
lights?
I
made
a
motion
to
move
consent
agenda
six
above
five,
so
we
can
consider.
G
B
G
Mission
carries
with
ciao
verino
and
more
abstaining.
Okay.
A
Thank
you.
So
we
are
moving
to
consent.
Number
six,
consider
adoption
of
a
resolution
establishing
the
commemorative
commemorative
commemorative
bench
delegation
policy
and
waiving
the
commemorative
fee
for
Maryland
Francisco
continued
from
February
7th.
So
do
we
have
a
staff
report
on
this
one
merway.
K
We
do
have
a
staff
report.
We
do
not
have
Seth
presentation
ready
for
this
item,
given
that
this
is
on
consent.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
there
are
a
number
of
communications
questions
received
from
Council
that
we
provide
a
response
in
the
written
communication
that
was
published
yesterday.
Okay
I
do
have
acting
director
chat
mostly
available
to
answer
any
further
questions
that
Council
may
have
for
this
item.
Okay,.
A
J
A
J
Further
respect
to
her
application,
she
did
apply
for
a
plaque
in
early
2022.
If
I
recall,
yeah.
A
A
H
Ahead,
this
is
a
question
for
for
Chad.
Have
we
placed
plaques
before
based
on
the
current
policy.
J
Previously
there
I
mean
there
have
been
plaques
that
have
been
placed
in
the
past.
None
of
them
have
been
placed
based
on
this
policy,
since
this
policy
is
not
there
now,
in
fact,
we've
not
placed
any
new
plaques
since
May
of
2022.
J
H
So
there
were,
there
were
I,
think
two
examples
that
were
in
the
agenda
packet
and
it
looked
as
though
those
individuals
had
purchased
an
item
or
made
a
donation.
How
did
that
work.
J
The
plaque
and
trying
to
find
a
location
that
would
serve
the
public
does
not
hinder
the
The
public's
use
of
parks.
With
that
stated,
you
know.
Currently
the
parks
and
rec
commission
has
provided
recommendations
on
a
number
of
benches
to
be
placed
in
Parks
throughout
the
city,
including
some
recommended
locations
and
I.
Think
when
we
go
to
install
benches
in
the
future,
we'll
look
at
opportunities
to
to
place
benches
in
those
locations.
H
Okay,
so
that
wouldn't
be
the
staff
would
I
mean
the
council
would
have
no
input
on
that
and
so
memorial
benches
with
with.
Basically
any
kind
of
writing
on
that
plaque
could
be
could
be
put
anywhere
so,
for
instance,
at
Creekside
Park.
If
I
wanted
to
put
a
put
a
bench
with
a
plaque
commemorating
anyone
free
free
speech,
I
guess
that
could
happen.
J
So,
with
respect
to
the
bench
policy,
we
have
indicated
that
individuals
to
be
commemorated
should
have
a
direct
connection
with
Cupertino
and
additionally,
the
language
that
is
being
indicated
on
the
plaque
needs
to
be.
You
know,
in
memory
of
in
loving
memory
of
or
dedicated
to
the
individual's
name,
we're
limiting
the
the
language
that
can
be
placed
on
these
plaques
to
hinder
potentially.
J
Certain
you
know
statements
that
may
be
controversial.
We're
basically
trying
to
provide
these
plaques
as
memorials
for
individuals
who
are
directly
associated
with
Cupertino.
H
J
Again,
we
would
look
into
the
case-by-case
basis
if
this
person
lived
in
Cupertino,
they
would
have
a
direct
connection
with
Cupertino,
potentially
for
somebody
who
lives
in
Cupertino
and
an
immediate
relative
requesting
a
plaque
for
an
immediate
relative
that
may
be
considered
if
somebody
wanted
to
put
in
a
commemorative
plaque,
for
let's
say,
Vladimir.
O
J
I
I
However,
we
can
set
standards
based
on
on
the
content,
reasonable
time
place
manner,
restrictions
on
the
content,
so
so
that's
that
that
that's
why
you
know
this
that
there's
a
relatively
narrow
range
of
statements
that
we're
allowing
on
the
benches
and
trying
to
prescribe
some
some
some
some
some
Viewpoint
neutral
regulations
for
this
kind
of
Memorial
bench.
I
You
know
to
avoid
an
issue
where
you
know:
there's
there's
a
First
Amendment
issue
and
the
city
might
wind
up
associated
with
speech
that
you
know
we
we
wouldn't
think
reflects
well
on
the
city
or
our
Parks.
You
know-
and
we
would
have
a
hard
time,
perhaps
restricting
that
due
to
the
First
Amendment.
H
In
in
all
of
the
city,
parks
are,
are
fair
game,
for
these
memorial
benches
is
that
is
that
correct,
because
honestly,
I
would
prefer
and
I
kind
of
had
thought
that
Memorial
Park
with
the
word
memorial
had
some
kind
of
historic
significance
with
regards
to
that,
and
and
so
then
my
other
concern
is
that
we're
looking
at
a
Memorial
Park
reconstruction
and
what
happens
to
these
benches?
What,
if
you
want
to
have
them
all
re-coordinated
you're?
H
Looking
your
your
Architects
are
looking
for
a
different
look,
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
that
and
and
I,
don't
necessarily
want
to
go
to
each
and
every
Park
and
and
end
up
seeing
a
memorial
bench.
Maybe
maybe
that's
not
something
everyone
wants
to
see
throughout
the
city.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
You
know
the
conditions
so
the
past
ones
that
the
staff
interest
mentioned
in
the
staff
report.
The
post
parties
donated
the
bench
and
then
the
plaque
was
on
the
bench
they
donated.
B
D
J
Again,
I
don't
have
all
the
information
of
past
plaques
that
have
been
installed.
We're
bringing
this
policy
forward
to
basically
dictate.
D
D
D
K
The
mayor
by
may
but
I
understand,
council
member
Charles
question
I
believe
there
was
a
naming
policy
that
the
council
was
contemplating.
It's
not
the
bench
policy,
it's
to
name
a
facility
or
a
park
or
a
place
after
certain
criteria.
I
don't
know
if
that
policy
has
been
finalized,
but
that's
not
the
policy
we're
coming
before
you.
K
D
D
Yeah
okay,
never
mind
so
then
another
thing
I,
think
the
council
Direction
in
that
meeting
was
to
bring
this
item
back
with
the
proposed
bench.
Dedication
policy,
but
the
the
request
for
a
place
will
be
considered
after
the
policy
is
adopted.
That
was
the
Consular
direction
right.
J
We're
we're
bringing
the
policy
before
you
and
with
that
policy
is
also
the
option
to
consider
the
plaque
for
Maryland
Francisco
yeah.
D
K
I'll
answer
that
through
the
mayor
show
this:
this
is
not
on
the
work
program,
you're,
absolutely
right.
We
are
following
council's
direction
to
Paul
to
develop
the
policy,
given
that
Maryland
Francisco
has
been
patiently
waiting,
so
Steph
went
ahead
and
made
a
recommendation
on
our
own
you're,
absolutely
right.
The.
A
Thank
you.
So,
let's
open
up
for
the
public
comment,
please,
yes,.
G
Yes,
we
have
one
speaker
card
from
Jennifer,
Griffin
and
I
will
check
the
zoom.
Please
have
your
hands
raised
in
nine
minutes.
Welcome
Jennifer.
F
Hi
yeah
good,
it's
working.
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
placement
of
this
is
a
bit
bizarre,
but
that's
okay,
I'm
glad
we
got
to
it.
As
you
all
understand,
commemorative
benches
Etc
are
very,
very
personal
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
important
for
the
city
to
have
a
policy
of
this.
My
mother
lived
in
Pacific
Grove
for
many
years.
F
There
was
benches
all
over
the
city,
especially
near
the
ocean
that
had
names
of
people
who
enjoyed
the
sea
Santa
Cruz
County,
where
she
is
now
we
find
these
all
over
the
place
downtown
San
Jose.
Has
these
also
I
understand
that
it's
a
very,
very
complicated
issue.
I
am
familiar
with
the
naming
issue
over
the
fish
tank
and
the
library
with
Sandy
James
in
about
2004,
and
the
upshot
was
that
you're
supposed
to
have
passed
away
before
anything
can
be
named
from
you.
F
I
am
suggesting
now
that
we
name
the
280,
formerly
Juniper,
Sarah
bike
trail
after
Steve
Jobs.
He
he
is
the
living
legend
in
this
city
and
he
worked
in
both
he
it
I
won't
even
go
into
it.
I
think
we
should
do
that
now.
At
this
point.
I
think
that
it
would
be
really
really
prudent
for
the
city
council
to
set
up
a
research
group
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
policy
about
memorial
benches.
We
have
lots
of
parks.
F
We
have
Memorial
Park
I,
think
that
another
thing
we
could
do
is
have
funds
that
families
could
donate
money
to
maybe
a
military
fund,
a
fund
for
people
who
liked
environmental
issues,
people
who
liked
nature
Birds,
Etc
and
then
have
have
a
standard
plaque
on
the
bench
in
memory
of
so
and
so,
and
you
know
you
can
even
have
the
birth
date,
death
date
I've
seen
this
all
over
the
place,
my
family
has
been
giving
out
two
music
scholarships
at
Homestead,
High
School
for
the
last
eight
years
in
honor
of
my
brother,
we're
very,
very
happy
with
it
and
I.
F
My
family
also
gives
out
a
an
annual
scholarship
in
the
hometown
in
Virginia
and
I.
Think
that
that,
for
me
personally,
has
been
one
of
the
highlights
of
the
memorial
of
a
person
and
I
think
that
I
I
understand
that
Miss
Francesco
she
wants
to
honor
her
friend
or
whoever
this
family
member
was
I.
Think
it's
time
that
we
have
a
policy
set
up
on
this
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
it.
We
can
look
at
what
other
cities
do
et
cetera
the
county.
F
This
isn't
the
first
time
the
city
has
had
meetings
about
what
type
of
bench
Furniture
go
along
like
Stevens,
Creek,
Boulevard
et
cetera
Etc,
and
it's
probably
time
to
do
that
because
you
know
I
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
I
spend
a
lot
of
times
at
cemeteries.
Okay,
yes,
I
do,
but
thank
you.
They
are
tremendous
learning
places.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
N
Evening,
council,
members
and
staff
I've
sent
suggestions
on
the
Forum
and
policy
via
email.
Please
see
my
email
comments.
They're
based
on
location
of
the
bench
I
think
that
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
should
should
be
involved.
Not
just
Public's
works,
a
verification.
The
policy
does
not
specify
who
verifies
the
required
connection
to
Cupertino
application
form.
The
form
should
state
that
there
needs
to
be
a
direct
connection
to
the
city
of
Cupertino
on
the
Forum
when
they
fill
it
out,
and
it
should
also
state
that
no
organization
or
groups
will
be
considered.
N
That
said,
public
benches
are
paid
for
with
public
tax
dollars.
When
a
plaque
is
on
a
bench,
it
is
assumed
that
the
person
paid
for
that
bench.
You
are
setting
a
procedure.
You
are
setting
up
a
procedure
which
is
a
good
start.
Then
you
turn
around
and
immediately
make
an
exception
to
wave
the
theme
procedures
work
best.
If
the
rules
are
followed
over
and
over
I've
heard
the
whole
Council
said
it
procedures
need
to
be
in
place.
This
is
the
time
to
follow
the
procedure.
Exceptions
mean
people
can
pull
strings.
N
N
Please
make
the
changes
suggested
on
the
application
form
and
deny
the
fee
waiver,
but
encourage
the
applicant
to
donate
in
honor
of
their
loved
one.
This
is
a
very
emotional
time
and
having
a
bench
in
their
memory
is
fine,
but
it
should
not
be
an
existing
bench.
You're
setting
a
precedent
that
the
next
person
coming
along
will
want
to
do.
I
want
to
just
get
a
fee
waiver
and
just
slap
a
plate
on
an
existing
bench.
Please
do
not
set
this
precedent.
A
Thank
you,
madam
City.
Crook
I
want
to
tell
Jennifer
that
I
really
appreciate
your
donation
to
The
Homestead
Ben
I
was
a
school
board.
Member
I
was
there
almost
every
year
and
we
heard
about
a
band.
It's
really
great.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
I
want
to
bring
this
back
to
council
for
discussion.
Do
we
want
to
make
a
motion
and
second,
first
before
discussion,
or
do
we
want
to
discuss
first
I'm
going
to
do
the
pleasure
of
the
council
yeah.
A
H
Go
ahead.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
we
just
heard
from
from
Peggy
and
I
do
agree
with
the
parks
and
rec
issue
in
particular,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
parks
are
well
designed
and
that
we're
not
putting
these
concrete
pads
and
these
benches
in
areas
and
then
changing
our
mind
about
them.
Like
I
had
mentioned
about
Memorial
Park
I'm
worried
that
we
we
might
be
constraining
the
use
of
that
space
or
making
it
more
difficult
and
more
expensive
to
change
things
in
the
future.
H
A
couple
of
years
ago,
I
had
the
pleasure
of
being
at
the
Lady
Bird
Johnson
Botanic
Garden
in
outside
of
Austin,
and
it
you
have
to
pay
to
go
in,
but
there
are
many
of
the
garden
rooms.
I'll
call
them
were
dedicated
by
various
families
and
individuals,
and
there
are
beautiful
benches
which
have
plaques
on
them
throughout
the
whole
park.
It's
it's
absolutely
beautiful.
H
So
if
you
get
a
chance
just
to
visit
it
online
go
ahead
and
do
that
it's
it's
it's
awesome,
but
what
I
liked
about
it
was
that
these
these
benches
were
very
artistic
and
there
it
wasn't.
Just
your
typical
park
bench
there
were
some
in
the
shapes
of
dragonflies
and
butterflies
and,
and
you
know
beautiful
patina
on
them,
so
I.
You
know
I
like
that.
H
This
this
bench
idea
is
here,
but
I
would
like
it
to
have
some
architectural
oversight
about
it,
so
that
we're
kind
of
reaching
a
little
bit
above
and
beyond,
and
maybe
there's
areas
where
you
you
donate
you
you,
you
donate
the
five
thousand
dollars
and
you
get
a
typical
bench.
But
if
you
want
to
have
this,
you
know
glorious
artistically
designed
bench,
you
can.
H
You
can
pay
some
more
and
have
your
name
put
on
that
or
if
you'd
like
to
have
some
other
decorative
item,
perhaps
outdoor
Sculpture
Garden
in
in
some
area,
if
you'd
like
to
donate
that
that
that
option
could
potentially
be
be
made
available
and
and
have
this,
but
have
the
items
be
something
that
was
decided
for
by
by
professionals
so
that
these
these
items
are
very
Tastefully
done.
H
As
we
all
know,
we've
received
leaving
emails
in
support
of
the
dolas
and,
and
one
of
them
actually
was
asking
for
benches
in
an
area
which
I
think
is
an
interesting
request
and
and
but
if
an
area
hasn't
been
kind
of
scoped
out
by
Public
Works
in
coordination
with
Parks
and
Rec,
then
we
might
not
have
these
items
put
in
the
best
locations
and
it
so
I
think
that
that
would
help
so
and
I
do
agree
that
this
is
setting
a
a
precedent
with
regards
to
waiving
so
much
money
for
an
individual
that
that
that
this
it's
problematic
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
getting
into
it.
H
You
know,
I
am
very
sorry
that
this
item
came
to
council
as
it
did
when,
when
it
did
there
was.
It
seemed
as
though
there
was
a
misinterpretation
of
established
code
or
policy
in
in
the
past
that
the
the
staff
had
been
able
to
provide
the
the
plaque
on
benches,
and
we
have
these
examples
where
it
was
followed
correctly,
but
this
this
item,
you
know
something
happened
with
it,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
be
setting
the
precedent
and
just
giving
away.
City
resources
in
this
manner
I'm.
H
You
know
I'm,
sorry
to
say
that
all
right
with
that
I
think
the
question
of
who
verifies.
If
the
person
has
a
connection
to
Cupertino
I,
don't
know
what
ideas
you
have
on
how
to
do
that
I
think
it.
It
could
be
complicated
if
you
do
have.
If
anyone
from
staff
has
some
idea
how
that
could
happen,
you're
just
gonna
have
to
take
someone's
word
for
it.
I
don't
know
so.
I'll
leave
it
with
that.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
do
we
have
other
comments
that
was
a
vice
mayor,
Mohan.
C
So
my
understanding
is
this
is
not
something
that
happens
very
frequently
if
I
looked
at
the
staff
report,
it's
two
two
instances
in
the
last
several
years
so.
C
So
I'm
not
sure
we
should
be
too
concerned
that
there
will
be
like
an
avalanche
of
bench.
Commemories
commemoration
requests
so
I'm,
not
I
would
like
to
sort
of
move
fast
on
this
item.
C
There
is
a
five
thousand
dollars
set
up
for
10
years:
maintenance
installing
the
bench
and
the
plaque
I
would
like
to
make
an
exception
for
Miss
Francesco.
She
has
waited
since
May
and
it
is
to
commemorate
a
loved
one
and
there's
no
question
of
setting
a
precedent
once
this
reapprove
this.
This
becomes
policy,
and
this
is
the
Miss
Francesco's
request
is
the
only
one
in
the
pipeline,
so
there
wouldn't
be
any
question
of
a
precedent,
so
I
I'd
like
to
move
forward
on
this.
D
D
Usually,
as
a
community
member
brings
something
they
want
to
do
a
certain
thing.
The
city
current
policy
doesn't
support,
a
plague
is
existing
bench
normally,
wouldn't
the
staff
would
just
tell
them?
That's.
We
don't
have
allow
that
and
that's
it
rather
than
come
to
the
council,
to
adopt
a
new
policy
to
allow
this
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
come
the
staff
has
not
denied
the
request
and
then
somehow
miscommunicated
and
then
resulted
in
this
applicant
keep
waiting.
K
J
So
my
understanding
is
there
is
there
was
a
donation
policy
in
place
that
allowed
for
certain
donations,
including
plaques,
and
then
I
think
with
that
policy
there
was
a
requirement
to
come
to
council
I
think
when
this
was
brought
in
May.
There
was
a
request
to
have
a
very
specific
policy
for
for
benches,
but.
B
D
Night
and
you
asked
for
a
policy
so
in
last
May
on
the
staff
report,
the
question
was
asked
of
council
what's
rewarding
on
the
plaque.
At
that
time
the
plaque
wasn't
even
ordered,
and
now
we
are
being
told
in
today's
staff
report,
the
applicant
purchased
went
ahead
and
purchased
the
plaque
with
the
wording
she
probably
decide
and
now
that's
a
reason.
We
should
Grant
this
request
because
they
she
again
did
not
follow
the
city
policy.
So.
J
J
I
again,
I'm
not
sure
how
plaques
were
originally
placed
on
benches,
where
the
first
one
came
in.
This
was
a
request
that
was
that
was
provided
in
may.
We
brought
it
to
council
for
their
consideration
with
this
we're
bringing
a
policy
forward
for
future
and
we're
giving
Council
a
chance
to
either
accept
the
waiver
or
reject
that
waiver.
Here
you
are
not
being
required
to
approve
this
waiver,
we're
just
bringing
this
same
request
that
was
made
last
May
forward
to
council
for
consideration.
We
do
have.
D
E
Yeah
just
a
couple
of
questions,
quick
ones,
more
questions
that
have
come
to
mind
now,
primarily
for
the
City
attorney.
First
of
all,
thank
you,
Chris
Jensen,
for
having
answered
my
numerous
Forum
analysis.
Questions
in
the
past
on
on
this
topic,
I,
really
appreciate
it,
apropos
of
something
that
council
member
Moore
raised
with
respect
to
you
know,
maybe
there
being
certain
places
where
these
benches
wouldn't
be
say,
places
where
certain
residents
wouldn't
want
to
see
them.
Perhaps
they
would
expect
to
see
them
in
Memorial
Park
and
not
in
other
Parks.
E
I
All
you
know
it
part
of
the
The
Limited
public
forum
analysis
is
you
know
whether
the
city
chooses
to
open
up
a
public
space
to
speech
by
by
members
of
the
public,
and
the
city
can
always
choose
to
open
or
close
a
space?
So
I
wouldn't
see
any
problem
with
specifying
where
these
plaques
would
be
allowed,
either
now
or
later
or,
and
changing
that
over
time
got.
E
It
and
consistent
with
that
would
that
require
us
to
if
we
were
to,
for
example,
close
a
specific
Park
to
these
types
of
benches,
would
we
have
to
remove
that
in
existing
bench
and
place
it
somewhere
else.
I
A
H
Thank
you
so
in
the
written
Communications
from
I
guess
it
was
February
7th.
The
existing
donation
policy
was
included
in
there
and
that
was
resolution.
17-102.
The
donation
policy
talks
about
the
authority
to
accept
and
reject
donations
and
the
evaluation
guidelines
and
the
the
city
council
May
recognize
a
donation
by
a
plaque
affixed
to
the
appropriate
city,
building
facility,
structure,
equipment
or
Furnishings.
The
wording,
size,
type
and
location
of
the
plaque
shall
be
determined
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
H
When
this
item
came
to
to
council,
I,
don't
know,
maybe
a
year
ago
it
would,
it
was
changed.
The
language
was
changed
to
the
city.
Council
May
recognize
a
donation
of
a
plaque
that
was
the
language
change.
That
was
in
the
in
the
staff
report,
and
it
was
a
pretty
significant
change,
because
that's
not
what
the
what
the
donation
policy
actually
says.
So
you
need
to
a
donation,
buy
of
pla
a
plaque,
and
then
they
talk
about
what
these
donations
can
be.
H
So
they
talk
about
donations
of
any
kind,
restricted
or
unrestricted,
which
are
valued
above
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
must
be
presented
to
the
city
council
and
the
manager
is
authorized
to
delegate
authority
to
accept
donations,
valued
at
or
below
ten
thousand
dollars
to
the
director
or
head
of
the
department
for
which
the
donation
is
intended.
So
this
policy
actually
was
in
place
at
the
time,
in
my
opinion
and
I
think
this
actually
should
have
been
brought
up.
H
If
it's
not,
you
know
fully
spelled
out
in
the
current
staff
report
that
the
language
was
changed
when
it
was
brought
to
city
council
and
I
was
the
person
who
spotted
it.
I
remember
spotting
it
and
it
was
the
the
issue
with
the
word
being
of
or
by
so
it
was
changed
to
of
and
I
remember,
having
this
discussion
and
with
a
council
about
it,
and
so
I
am
surprised
that
this
item
has
returned
to
us,
because
the
policy
has
been
in
place
and
it
has
been
implemented
properly
in
the
past.
H
So
I
I
I
do
appreciate
the
bench
policy
I
would
like
to
have
Parks
and
Rec
and
Public
Works.
Think
about
where
they
would
like
these
these
benches
to
be
what
the
design
is
going
to
be
like
in
the
city
and
I
personally,
I
I,
don't
always
want
to
be
coming
across
a
memorial
site
in
every
park.
It
changes.
You
know
my
experience
when
I'm
there
and
I
think
other
people
would
have
that
perhaps
have
that
feeling
as
well.
So
I
would
like
these
to
be
contained.
H
However,
I
do
really
like
the
idea
about
people
being
able
to
donate
benches
by
this
policy
and
and
and
simply
say
this
is
a
gift
from
someone
who
just
wanted
to
gift
a
bench
for
for
a
park,
or
perhaps
you
know
with
regards
to
the
dollar
request
to
have
benches.
Perhaps
someone
would
want
to
just
donate
one
it
didn't
have
to
be
in
memory
of
or
they
you
know.
Perhaps
they
just
wanted
to.
H
Okay,
so
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear
and
also
with
regards
to
this
a
particular
agenda
item,
it's
difficult
for
me
to
navigate
through
these
documents,
so
I
had
to
dig
into
the
February
7th
written
Communications,
because
I
had
remember
seeing
all
of
these
all
of
these
documents
they
to
my
knowledge,
they
did
not
get
pulled
forward
into
this
agenda
packet
in
the
written
Communications
to
find
it
so
I
had
to
go
hunting
through
the
through
the
last
ones,
I
think
if
we're
going
to
give
a
red
line
or
a
change
to
a
policy
and
you're
referencing
in
the
previous
policy,
it
would
really
help
me
save
time
if
we
can
have
whatever
the
old
policy
is.
H
So
the
question
was
about
the
old
policy.
Well,
it
was
we
have
it.
It
was
17-102
resolution
17-102,
it
was
in
place.
It's
been
in
place,
I'm,
going
to
assume
that's
2017
by
the
way
they
they
number
these
items,
so
I
want
to
make
that
perfectly
clear.
Thank
you.
That's.
A
K
I
mean
if
clerks
can
take
a
moment
and
pull
it
up.
I,
don't
believe
we
have
a
bench.
A
Right,
okay,
so
I'd
like
to
make
my
comment.
Five
minute
comment:
I,
remember
the
May.
When
it
came
to
us
and
I.
Remember
clearly
the
council
said
to
staff.
You
know
work
on
a
bench
policy
and
bring
back
it
to
council
and
I
I
want
to
say
the
staff
did
a
great
job.
It's
a
simple
policy,
but
to
the
point,
if
our
staff
is
doing
a
good
job,
I
really
want
to
commend
our
staff
for
doing
a
good
job
and
also
agree
on
it.
A
Even
though
we
might
say
how
come
when
I
we
never
know
about
it,
but
we
really
want
to
empower
our
staff
to
make
good
policies
and
as
to
where
do
we
put
a
bench?
Is
it
going
to
look
good
which
part
to
put
it
I
do
think
this
is
Administration
I
think
I'll
park,
our
public
works
with
probably
will
work
without
Park
Recreation
and
put
a
bench
where
it's
going
to
look.
A
Good
people
are
going
to
sit
on
it
and
it's
going
to
make
Park
look
better,
whether
it's
on
in
a
which
park
or
is
Memorial
Park
or
is
it
you
know,
I
want
to
trust
staff
and
I
think
they
can
implement
this
and
I
like
this
policy.
A
It's
simple
to
the
point
and
I
do
think
it's
implementable
and,
as
City
attorney
says,
it
also
protects
the
the
city
with
the
simple
you
know
statement
so
that
we
have
that
way
to
is
you
know
people
are
going
to
say
it's
Amendment
rights,
so
I
do
think
this
policy
is
good
as
for
Marilyn.
A
A
She
was
in
multiple
meetings,
unfortunately
she's,
not
here
and
maybe
there's
some
misunderstanding
or
not,
but
I'm
not
gonna
go
to
the
origin
of
it,
but
I
want
to
say
she
is
our
resident
she's,
being
patient,
she's
being
nice,
and
this
is
before
this
policy
and
it's
one
time
exception,
and
we
already
have
the
bench.
It's
not
like
we're
losing
resources.
A
I
am
inclined
to
give
her
that
one-time
waiver
and
adopt
this
policy.
So
it's
not
going
to
happen
again.
It's
not
like
another
person's
gonna
say:
oh
she
you
gave
it
to
her,
so
I
want
it
and
that,
and
that
would
have
to
come
to
council
and
again
I
like
the
Simplicity
and
effectiveness
of
this
policy
and
I,
think
our
staff
did
a
good
job
and
I
think
they
can
implement
it.
A
We
really
do
not
need
to
go
into
details
and
they're
not
going
to
put
a
bench
where
people
are
going
to
trip,
or
it's
not
going
to
look
good.
So
my
inclination
is
approve
it.
If
we
don't
like
it,
we
can
always
amend
it.
If
we
want
some
special
benches,
we
can
always
add
to
it.
You
know
butterfly
bench,
a
dog
bench
for
the
for
the
park.
A
E
A
A
So
it's
being
moved
and
seconded
do
we
have
any
more.
H
Please
make
a
short,
please,
okay,
so
with
regards
to
the
bench
policy,
I
appreciate
that
all
of
this
is
being
worked
out,
but
one
of
the
things
that
stands
out
is
that
it
is
it
to
have
a
commemorative
statement,
memorializing
an
individual
or
family,
and
it's
and
it's
referred
to
as
Memorial
bench
dedication
and
that's
something
that
I
didn't
exactly
pay
attention
to
First
reading
this,
but
as
I
previously
mentioned,
it
would
be
great
if
people
could
simply
donate
a
bench
because
they
want
to
donate
a
bench
and
they
don't
necessarily
want
it
to
be
a
memorial
bench.
H
They
would
simply
like
to
to
make
it
make
a
donation.
Perhaps
they
want
their
name
on
it.
Perhaps
they
want
to
be
anonymous,
but
they
would
like
to
to
do
that
and-
and
it
might
actually
open
open
the
interest
up
from
the
public
if
they
didn't
feel
like
they
needed
to,
you
know,
give
make
it
a
memorial
site.
Maybe
they
just
you
know,
want
to
beautify
a
park
and
provide
a
nice
place
for
someone
to
sit
with
their
name
on
it
or.
H
You
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
have
this.
This
altered.
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
do
it
on
the
fly
right
now,
but
is
there
a
way
that
that
it
could
be
a
donation
without
the
memorial
part
being
insisted
upon,
because
the
language
is
is
quite
strict
that
it's
in
memory
of
in
loving
memory
of
dedicated
to
thank.
A
You
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table
for
the
memorial
bench
and
if
we
a
yeah,
this
is
the
memorial
bench
policy
right.
We
could
always
come
up
with
another
policy
so
that
that
is,
it
has
a
motion
in
a
second.
Are
we
ready
to
vote
if
we
do
please
vote
by
light
foreign.
H
A
I
A
D
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
that
we
yeah
I
I
have
to
say
that
I
also
like
the
bench
donate
dedication
policy
I,
think
it's
needed.
I
just
didn't
like
that.
We
are
adopting
a
brand
new
policy
on
consent
agenda
and
when
it's
not
on
the
adopted
work
program,
that's
really
should
be
discouraged
and
but
since
now
now
it's
here
so
I'm
proposing
that.
D
Here's
my
motion,
okay,
that
we
should
deny
the
request
to
place
a
citizen
bot
play
plaque.
Not
only
the
donation
amount,
the
plug
is
not
bothered
by
the
city.
That
means
the
quality
of
the
plug
is
not
guaranteed
to
place
on
an
existing
park
bench
without
making
any
donation
or
comply
with
existing
policy,
and
this
is
not
her
bench.
D
It's
the
OCD
bench,
but
by
placing
the
plaque
public
would
unders
would
misunderstand
that,
and
I
would
like
to
revise
the
resolution
to
involved
with
the
parks
and
rec
department
and
commission
to
advise
on
the
location
of
the
part
of
the
oven.
So
I
am
revising
that
the
department
of
parks
and
rec
will
accept
donations
and
the
director
of
Parks
and
Rec
in
consultation
with
parks
and
rep
commission
shall
establish
a
procedure
to
apply,
and
then
they
will
I
trust
that
the
commission
will
identify
proper
locations.
That
way
we
have
a
public
process.
It's
important.
D
This
is
a
really
good
policy.
We
want
the
public
to
know
and
utilize
this
donation
policy
to
donate
benches
in
parks
that
may
be
near
their
home
on.
But
if
this
is
a
director
level
thing,
then
there
is
no
public
process
and
public
won't
you'll
be
able
to
utilize
only
selected.
A
few
will
know
about
it.
Oh
so
that's
my
motion,
the
rest,
didn't
change
and
that
on
the
application.
H
I'd
like
to
second
that
I
do
have
one
clarification
that
I'd
like
to
make
of
chat
and
I
was
wondering
if,
if
an
individual
can
perhaps
stretch
the
dedicated
to
start
of
the
commemorative
statement
to
be
dedicated
to
the
residents
of
Cupertino
by
so-and-so
or
to
park
lovers
or
nature
lovers,
or
something
like
that
I'm
going
to
assume
that
it
could
be
stretched.
That
way.
H
The
reason
why
I'm
saying
that
is
that
I
think
that
we
could
encourage,
if
you're,
looking
for
more
benches
more
benches
to
be
dedicated
or
donated
to
the
city.
If
the
language
is
kind
of
opened
up
a
little
bit
and
people
knew
that
they
could
for
five
thousand
dollars
in
an
area
they
want
to
have
a
bench,
they
could
perhaps
see
if
that
could
happen.
So,
let's
see
if
that
would
work
that
possible.
I
So
I,
don't
think
there'd
be
any
problem
with,
with
extending
the
recognition
to
somebody
that's
alive.
I
would
be
hesitant
to
to
to
to
have
it.
Have
the
ability
to
dedicate
or
recognize
a
particular
cause,
because
you
know
you
have
to
treat
the
park
lovers
and
the
park
haters
equally.
A
Do
we
have
a
do?
We
have
a
second
or
you
want
to
make
a
friendly
Amendment.
H
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
our
City
attorney
could
so
dedicated
to
park
lovers,.
B
I
So
that's
that's
a
Viewpoint
right
people
who
hate
hating
Parks
is
also
a
Viewpoint
right,
and
so
that
that
that's
that's
why
I
I,
don't
think
it's
a
problem
that
that
you
know
to
be
able
to
recognize
a
living
person
with
a
connection
to
Cupertino
or
a
family,
which
is
is
the
words
that
are
used
in
the
policy
I
I
would
I
would
advise
against
sort
of
you
know,
allowing
public
access
to
private
access
to
public
property.
I
So
that
is
probably
that
would
probably
be
okay,
because
it
is
just
a
recognition
of
the
location
you
know,
but
I
guess
I'd
be
hesitant
to
to
sort
of
jump
to
that
conclusion
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Okay,.
A
The
park
and
have
it
approaching
11
o'clock
I
need
to
wrap
this
up.
Please
we
are
looking
for
a
Memorial
Park
Memorial
bench
I
want
to
re-emphasize.
If
we
want
to
do
other
benches,
we
can
ask
the
staff
to
come
back
with
other
things.
I
really
want
to
wrap
this
up
before
11
o'clock
else.
We
have
to
make
a
motion
to
extend
the
meeting.
D
Just
shortly
about
the
plaque,
I
think
the
language
right
now
is
very
it's
it
just
says
the
plague
may
be
inscribed,
so
it
could,
if
anyone
can
choose
not
to
inscribe
words
in
memory
of
and
just
say
dedicated
by
whom
right.
So
the
the
director
has
the
flexibility
to
allow
very
that
variation.
I
D
D
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
safety
motion
with
made
by
council
member
Charles
second
by
the
council
member
Moore.
May
we
have
a
light
vote.
Please.
A
Whether
it
was
accepted,
she
didn't
make
it
nothing,
yeah,
no!
Okay!
Sorry!
There
was
no
friendly,
Amendment
okay.
So
this
is
to
vote
on
substitute
of
motion,
that's
published
by
council
member
chow
and
seconded
by
council
member
Moore
I'm.
H
H
So
if
you're
trying
to
donate
a
bench-
and
it's
not
a
memorial
bench,
it
would
still
fall
under
the
donation
policy
like
it
did
when
it
came
to
council.
This
item
did
when
it
came
to
council
about
a
year
ago.
Is
that
correct.
I
I
It's
possible
that
that
that
that
there
could
be
a
gift
of
a
bench
under
the
donation
policy,
I
think
if
there
were
a
conflict
between
the
two
policies,
this
policy
would
control
given
given
its
its
the
language
and
and
in
the
resolution
in
the
more
recent
adoption.
Okay.
A
D
So
the
current
policy
only
allow
individuals,
so
what
the
organization
who
maybe
are
helping
veterans
would
they
be
able
to
donate
a
bench
and
dedicate
it
to
a
veteran
who
is
a
Cupertino
resident.
D
A
D
A
A
E
D
So
then,
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
approve
the
dedication
policy
that
in
the
staff
recommendation
without
the
without
the.
A
Let's
move
it,
let's
vote
by
like
please.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
so
I
think
we
have
five
minutes.
I,
don't
think
we
have
time
to
go
to
number
five
to
extend
it
again.
Do
we
want
to
go
to
number
five
I'm
gonna?
Let
any
my
fellow
consonants
decide
how's
that.
A
K
We
don't
have
a
staff
report
through
the
mayor,
so
this
is
the
item
that
was
continued
from
February
7..
My
understanding
is
that
we're
trying
to
rectify
the
account
payable
for
the
month
of
November
from
last
year
staff
went
ahead
and
realized
that
there
were
receipts
that
were
coming
to
our
attention.
We
wanted
to
bring
to
councils
for
not
any
action,
but
just
to
bring
it
to
council's
consideration.
A
D
I
think
one
one:
member
of
the
public
pulled
the
item.
I
was
hoping
to
hear
from
the
member.
N
Good
evening,
council,
members
and
staff
for
the
audience
that's
left
those
present
in
those
on
Zoom
the
accounts
payable
is
the
city's
checkbook
register.
It
lists
all
the
checks
the
city
has
issued
for
each
week.
Roughly
This
Record
goes
way
back
in
the
city's
history.
Why
do
I
care
and
keep
bringing
this
up
for
transparency?
It's
how
the
city
spends
our
tax
dollars?
It's,
because
if
the
real
day-to-day
numbers
aren't
right
and
it's
hard
to
have
confidence
in
the
big
picture
called
the
budget.
N
N
A
I'm,
a
little
close
close
to
public
comment.
I
do
believe
these
answers
are
being
answered
on
the
on
the
stat
reports
and
I've.
Read
them
yes,.
K
You're
absolutely
right:
Mary
I
was
going
to
say
the
happy
reiterated
in
the
staff
report.
That's
correct.
A
So
well,
we're
going
to
council
discussion
go
ahead.
H
K
For
that
I
mean
I
can
kind
of
go
over
high
level.
Of
course
you
need
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
It
happened
during
the
week
of
Thanksgiving,
so
the
receipts
were
kept
came
to
us
and
we
realized
that
when
we
sent
it
to
audit
for
consideration,
there
was
one
week
missing.
So
we
quickly
realized
that
we
were
one
a
week
behind
and
brought
it
to
council.
H
Also
through
the
mayor,
there
I
actually
also
pulled
pulled
this
item
and
for
this
reason
in
in
attachment,
B
accounts
payable,
page
14
of
21.
there's
a
payment
to
Boucher
Law
PC
dated
November
4th
2022
for
finance
manager,
parentheses
2022,
close
parentheses.
I
would
like
to
see
the
invoice
for
this
and
the
contract
for
this
service
made
public
redacting.
What
is
needed
for
some
background?
The
city
contracted
with
Boucher
in
2022
for
recruitment,
Services,
mayor.
H
Thank
you
pardon
this
is
we
we
made
a
payment
for
finance
manager
and
we
hired
Boucher
for
Recruitment
and
we
paid
them
for
recruitment
I'm
trying
to
understand.
Why
are
we
having
this
payment
there
for
finance
manager?
The.
I
K
Foreign,
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
the
contract
and
the
receipt.
I
think
this
is
not
the
place
to
discuss
why
Chris
boucher's
Services
is
retaining
a
finance
manager
and
that's
a
different
policy.
That
is
not
the
content
of
the
agenda
item
today,
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
you
the
receipt.
I
I
Would
you
would.
B
I
Think
we
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
vote.
D
Oh,
that's
right.
Oh
just
a
minute,
I
have
one
more
question:
can
I
can
I
ask
you
one
more
question.
A
D
K
Through
the
mayor's
show,
I
think
we
are
doing
that.
We're
bringing
it
to
council
for
you
to
ratify
the
mistake.
A
So
I
like
to
make
one
comment:
our
staff
found
a
mistake
and
brought
it
to
us
and
I
think
we
should
credit
the
staff
for
finding
the
mistake
and
I
do
believe
they
learn
from
their
mistakes
and
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
happen
again.
A
If
we
say
staff,
don't
bring
any
mistakes
to
us,
we're
gonna,
you
know
put
that
on
you,
I
I,
just
think
that
our
staff
is
honest
and
they
made
a
mistake.
They
bring
it
to
us
for
to
rectified
it
and
they
will
pay
attention
to
that.
Okay
and-
and
we
learn
from
our
mistakes,
so
I
would
like.
D
To
definitely
and
that's
why
I
recognize
that
I
thank
the
staff
for
finding
and
picking
up
this
and
bring
this
updated
so
quickly,
but
as
we
know
that
we
just
adopted
Council
procedure
and
we
learn
from
our
mistake,
but
then
people
change
people
get
busy.
So
when
we
find
out
oh
I
missed
it
this
time,
usually
a
normal
process
will
be
okay.
D
What
can
I
do
to
so
that
I
don't
miss
it
next
time,
and
then
there
may
be
a
you
can
establish
a
procedure
like
if
I
keep
forgetting
my
key
I
will
keep
I
will
keep
putting
it
in
the
same
location
and
so
that
next
time
is
less
likely
to
happen.
So
so
I'm
just
one
wondering,
are
they?
Are
we
doing
something
to
learn
from
the
mistake
to
so
that
we
have
a
more
solid
procedure?
D
D
A
A
B
A
H
A
Okay,
second,
is
being
moved
and
seconded.
Can
we
move
by
light.
A
So
we
have
the
origin
of
motion.
Can
we
vote
on
it
now
Okay
police
vote
by
light.
K
G
So
mayor
would
I.
Could
you
please
review
vote
I
had
to
change
the
councilmember
Moore
accidentally
voted
incorrectly
I'm,
sorry,
councilmember
Moore
accidentally
voted
in
the
wrong
Manner
and
so
I
restarted.
The
vote.