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Coverage of the June 23, 2022 Cupertino Housing Commission Teleconference Meeting.
A
B
Hi,
I
seem
to
be
having
a
few
technical
problems
here
but
good
morning.
Everybody,
yes,
so
welcome
to
this
morning's
thursday
june
23rd
meeting
of
the
housing
commission
and
we're
having
it
virtual
to
decoded
and
to
limit
the
spread.
Today's
a
special
meeting
hold
on
just
a
second.
A
Recommend
chair
parish
to
discontinue
screen
sharing.
Oh.
A
A
Please
vote
claire
parish
here
vice
chair
todd,
achary.
C
D
A
Feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
too.
If
you
need
a
support,
commissioner
bose
doesn't
great
commissioner
doss
yeah.
E
B
Yes,
now
am
I
off
screen
chair?
Yes,
okay,
great
sorry
about
I've
never
had
to
do
that
before.
So.
The
first
item
on
the
on
the
agenda
is
to
approval
of
minutes.
Do
I
have
anyone
with
a
motion
to
approve.
D
A
One
moment,
let
me
confirm
that
everybody
was
in
attendance
at
that
meeting
for
the
vote
I
need
to
commissioner
cunningham
hi
were
we
were
all
of
you
there
for
the
interest
of
time,
we're
all
of
you
at
the
last
meeting
and
eligible
to
vote.
B
Great,
we
have
no
postponements
and
was
written
communication
none.
Next
we
have.
We
moved
to
public
hearings,
which
is
the
2022-2023
community
development
block
grant,
and
it's
over
to
you
kerry,
yes,
presentation.
A
A
This
is
due
to
hud
by
august
16th
and
the
county
is
planning
to
submit.
Actually
excuse
me
it's
due
july
12th,
so
the
timelines
are
quick
and
we
are
part
of
the
county
consortium.
So
once
we
approve
this
document
today,
we
will
notify
the
county
and
they
will
submit
on
our
behalf,
some
highlights
for
you
from
the
plan
the
funding
allocations
for
cdbg
for
next
year
for
public
services
and
capital
housing
grants
were
approved
in
the
spring
of
2022
by
housing,
commission
and
city
council.
A
That's
valuable
is
that
in
the
in
the
consolidated
plan
adopted
in
2020,
we
gave
a
five-year
plan
for
the
cdbg
funds
now
each
year
we
have
to
come
back
and
acknowledge
specifics
of
what
we're
doing
tied
to
that
five-year
plan.
So
it's
a
very
well
thought
out
process.
A
F
So,
are
you
looking
for
a
question.
B
Okay,
but
hold
on,
I
did,
I
see
a
hand
raised
whose
hand
was
up
first.
I
think
it
was
connie.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
you
carrie
for
this
informative
and
detailed
report.
It's
clearly
a
major
undertaking
getting
all
this
pulled
together.
I
understand
that
this
report
goes
to
hud
telling
them
about
our
decisions
that
we
made
earlier
this
year,
and
I
read
the
document
and
I
have
no
further
questions
on
it
and
thank
you
for
helping
me
understand
it
a
little
earlier
on
the
telephone
call
that
we
had.
That
was
useful
and
answered
some
preliminary
questions,
and
so
that
took
care
of
all
my
questions.
A
Okay,
great
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
commissioner
cunningham-
and
I
spoke
just
on
process
and
in
depth
about
the
the
document
clarifying
questions,
as
I
did
with
chair
parish
this
week
too.
So
thank
you
for,
for
that.
F
Yeah
thank
chair.
I
do
have
questions
if
required.
I
can
also
email
them
to
you
kerry.
So,
but
you
know
in
case
if
we
are
not
able
to
cover
it.
So
some
of
the
questions,
let
me
start
with
that
kind
of
drill
down
approach.
F
So
on
page
23
I
have
a
there's
a
cumulative
figure
given
in
the
one
two
three
four
five,
six,
seven,
eight
8,
which
is
the
expected
available
remainder
of
con
plan,
so
they
don't
mention
is
of
course,
total
for
this
year
is
418
09
34,
which
is
in
the
seventh
column.
In
the
eighth
column,
it
states
the
amount
is
792
806..
F
G
Real
quick,
if
I
may
just
ask
a
quick
question:
are
we
not
having
kerry
present
the
report
to
us?
Are
we
asking
questions
right
now
before
kerry?
Presents
the
report?
That's
the
first
question
I
have
before
we
go
dive
into
the
report
kerry.
Can
you.
A
Sure
so
this
is
an
an
annual
document.
That's
in
a
hud
federal
reporting
format.
So
we
we
fill
in
the
sections.
It's
it's
not
creative
per
se,
so
I
gave
just
a
high
level
overview
because
of
the
length
of
the
document
and
it's
one
of
the
things
I
should
have
mentioned.
Commissioner
bose,
that
would
be
beneficial
to
the
public.
This
document
was
released
in
draft
form
april
1st
and
it's
been
available
to
the
public
on
our
website
since
current.
So
I'm
happy
to
dive
in
and
explain
any
of
the
pieces
of
this.
A
I
just
wanted
to
be
considerate
of
the
the
upcoming
item
as
well
in
our
time,
but
basically
we
have
been
working.
We
put
this
in
the
cupertino
courier
to
notify
the
public.
We
haven't
received
any
public
comments
and
then
this
is
the
latest
draft
that
we
intend
to
submit
to
hud
unless
we
find
an
error.
This
is
this
is
what
hud
will
see,
and
so
so,
commissioner
tadachari
I'm
on
page
eight
and
I'm
unable
to
find
the
numbers
you're
you're
mentioning.
Are
you
going
off.
A
F
And
if
you
could
in
the
anticipated
resources,
you
know
if
you
see
the
eighth
column.
F
F
A
A
In
a
five-year
five-year
cycle
under
the
cdbg
consolidated
plan,
which
is
the
big
master
document,
but
the
annual
allocation
changes
depending
on
the
federal
budget,
so
that's
why
it's
an
expected
or
estimate,
and
so
we
currently
are
getting
388
459.
A
So
we're
anticipating
that
we
will
have.
I
think,
we're
in
year
three
of
the
con
plan,
it's
2020
to
2025,
so
we're
anticipating
two
years
of
hud
funds
remaining
for
24,
24
and
25,
which
is
an
estimate
of
792
806.,
the
bmr,
affordable
housing
fund,
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
estimated
estimated
is
easier
to
look
at
because
we've
been
giving
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
a
fair
housing
agency
and
the
city
controls
those
funds
and
we
have
it
capped
at
fifty
thousand.
A
F
Plan,
okay,
so
the
way
I
should
understand
the
eighth
column
is
the
792
is
additional
to
what
the
cdbg
funds
are.
As
of
today,.
F
Okay,
fine,
okay,
that's
very
good!
Actually
I
mean,
I
think
I
really
commend
you
for
having
put
together
this
document.
It's
really
exhaustive,
it's
very
good!
I
I
was
able
to
read
through
it.
I
was
able
to
understand
you
know
I
didn't
have
questions,
I
let
let's
put
it
this
way.
I
should
have
asked
questions
ahead
of
time,
but
you
know
I
I
didn't
get
the
occasion
to
do
that,
but
anyway,
so
the
the
the
other
thing
other
clients
need
is
in
a
number
of
places.
F
It
mentions
a
housing
commission
meeting
on
may
30th.
I
believe
it
would
be
june
14th
at
june
23rd
as
of
today.
So
I
can
point
out.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
part
thing
that
you
need
to
refer
today
in
the
in
the
meeting,
but
the
number
of
places
where
I
found
a
reference
to
a
housing
meeting
on
may
38.
I
know
that
they
were
thinking.
It
was
a
may
and
now
it's
june
23rd.
F
So
I
just
point
that
out
to
you
email
so
that
you
can
look
at
it
and
decide
you
know,
what's
the
correct
date
to
be
put
I
other
than
that,
I
have
very
satisfied
with
the
document.
I
commend
you
for
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
feedback.
The
may
30th
date
is
intended
to
show
the
public
comment
period
that
was
advertised
from
april
1st
to
may
30th.
I
will
go
through
the
document
and
make
sure
that
it's
not
signified
it's
not
saying
we
had
a
meeting
if
you
have
any
any
dates
that
you
find
on
certain
pages.
Please
feel
free
to
email
me
shortly
after
the
meeting,
and
let
me
know
too,
but
I
can
take
care
of
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
B
Okay
and
then
I
also
saw
commissioner
dos
with
his
hand
up.
Did
you
still
have
a
question.
C
C
But
I
do
remember
that
there
was
a
meeting
on
using
some
funds
coming
from
somewhere
and
there
were
two
or
three
contenders
and
I
could
not
attend
that
meeting.
But
I
did
submit
my
detailed
feedback
and
I
was
wondering
that
is
this
the
same
thing
or
that
is
a
different
thing
and
has
already
been
decided.
A
The
hud
funding
is
the
cdbg
funding,
and
the
housing
commission
approved
that
in
april
and
city
council
approved
in
may
and
now
we've
entered
the
data
into
this
document
to
present
it
to
hud.
So
the
the
agencies
have
already
been
awarded
their
funds
and
contracts
are
underway.
Now
we're
just
telling
hud
that
we're
doing
that.
C
C
Okay,
so
definitely
that's
great
that
things
have
approved
and
move
forward,
but
I
had
some
specific
questions
and
kerry.
Do
you
have
any
data
to
answer
my
questions,
because
my
specific
question
was
that
they
showed
the
roof
repaired
work
as
six
thousand
dollars
or
eight
thousand
dollars?
Something
and
200
000
plus
dollars
were
shown
for
administrative
costs.
So
is
this
fun
to
support
an
organization
in
general,
or
is
this
fun
for
some
specific
piece
of
work.
A
West
valley,
community
services
does
not
have
a
rehab
project
as
part
of
fiscal
year.
2223
the
capital
housing
project
is
awarded
to
rebuilding
together
silicon
valley.
So
if
you
go
to
the
staff
report,
the
upcoming
funding
is
outlined
in
the
cdbg
public
services
and
in
the
cdbg
capital
housing
projects
and
I
think
you're
speaking
to
capital
housing.
So
I
would
pull
up
the
staff
report
on
the
last
page,
there's
a
chart
and
that
information
is
lifted
into
the
action
plan.
A
B
Excellent.
Thank
you,
commissioner
doss.
That's
the
the
detailed
feedback
that
is
very
much
appreciated
throughout
the
whole
process
and
and
more
so
when
it's
first
announced
and
we
can
vote
on
it.
I'd
really
appreciate
that.
Okay
and
next
do
we
have
any
public.
A
B
D
Move
that
we
approve
the
action
plan.
Okay
have
a
second.
B
B
F
If
I
just
want
that,
if
everybody
has
gone
through
the
report-
and
you
know
in
sufficient
detail-
because
it's
a
pretty
detailed
document-
so
I
was
just
it-
was
very
exciting-
that's
fine!
I'm
fine
with
it.
No
problem
right.
B
New
business,
so
the
new
business
subject
is
housing.
Commission
participation
and
development
of
the
six-hour
housing
element
update
and
the
recommended
action
is
to
consider
preparing
and
sending
a
memorandum
to
the
city,
council
and
city
manager,
identifying
opportunities
for
the
housing
commission
to
contribute
to
the
housing
element,
update
process
such
as
discussing
affordable
housing
strategies
and
funding
sources,
and
discussing
planned
and
potential
joint
meetings
with
other
legislative
bodies
and
nominating
commissioners
to
prepare
the
memorandum.
B
Okay.
So
it's
kind
of
a
hefty
one.
If,
because
we
have
a
memorandum
and
that's
why
kerry
was
trying
to
speed
things
along
because
we
we
do
have
a
hefty
one.
So
for
this
item,
do
we
want
to
open
it
to
open
to
the
public
for
comment?
Carrie.
B
Bring
it
back
to
the
google
bring
it
back.
Okay
sounds
good.
So
with
that,
I
I
had
asked
to
see
if
anybody
had
prepared
any
items
or
any
had
any
thoughts.
We
are
going
to
open
this
for
comments
and
deliberation
here.
Yes,
commissioner,
chattachari.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
and
all
other
commissioners.
I
definitely.
This
was
something
which
has
been
one
of
the
dominant
things.
You
know
I
was
in.
You
know
in
terms
of
what
the
mission
should
be
involved
in
most
of
the
time
you
don't
want
to
be
at
the
whatever
the
tail
pipe
of
the
housing
element
process.
Is
you
want
it
as
part
of
the
housing
element
process
you
able
to
address
some
of
the
housing
challenges
that
are
there
in
the
city?
F
Otherwise,
most
of
the
time
we
are
on
the
tail
pipe
side
and
we
are
just
taking
you
know.
Whatever
is
the
exhaust
coming
out?
We
are
just
absorbing
it
so
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
it
was
important
for
us
to
be
a
part
of
the
process
itself,
and
that
was
my
sentiment
to
to
begin
with.
F
I
had
expressed
this
during
mia's
meeting.
The
thing
is
that
we
are
still
an
advisory
body.
I
mean
whatever
we
say
is
still
taken,
as
you
know,
input
and
it's
for
the
council
and
the
planning
commission
to
take
decisions
wherever
they
are
to
be
taken,
but
I'm
very
happy
that
we
have
been
able
to
get
involved
in
the
process.
F
I
believe
we
have
a
meeting
scheduled
on
june
28th
and
you
know
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
I'm
not
as
as
a
as
a
commissioner.
I
took
both
as
a
commissioner
as
well
as
a
member
of
the
public
very
active
interest
when
the
cep
was
formed.
You
know
when
the
sorry
the
strategic
advisory
commission
was
formed
and
every
the
strategic
advisory
committee
had,
which
is
the
public.
I
have
attended
all
those
meetings.
I've
made
my
contributions
in
you
know,
making
comments
etc.
F
So
it's
not
just
that
you
know
I
it's
just
you
say
that
I
am
trying
to
need
to
get
involved.
I
definitely
found
the
opportunity
to
also
I
got
involved,
as
you
know,
mainly
as
a
member
of
the
public,
because
I
am
not,
I
don't
have
any
say
within
the
within
the
strategic
advisory
committee's
role,
but
I
am
very
happy
that
city
has
a
schedule
point
meeting
with
the
planning
commission
and
I
wanted
to
just
express
that
sentiment.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Excellent,
thank
you,
and
I
I
did
want
to
sort
of
if
we
could
take
one
minute
to
look
at
and
consider
what
our
goal
is,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
to
do
during
this
meeting.
So
if
you
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
think
about
what
your
goal
is
within
this
item,
because
this
has
been
a
topic
and
then
we've
requested,
this
item
be
brought
to
the
agenda
for
discussion.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
do
that.
So
I
think
commissioner
tatachari
you
just
did
that.
B
But
I'll
come
back
to
you,
commissioner.
Cunningham.
D
Okay,
I
want
to
at
first
say
that
I
am
pleased
that
we're
on
virtual
these
days,
because
I
have
tested
positive
for
covid
and
I
certainly
would
not
want
to
infect
olly
all
because
I
didn't
know
I
had
it
for
the
first
three
or
four
days
I
had
laryngitis
and
I
it
was
only
because
I
had
a
public
meeting
to
go
to
that.
I
tested
myself
and
went:
guess
I'm
not
going
there.
D
So
it's
very
important
to
all
of
you
to
know
exactly
how
easy
it
is
to
get,
because
I
had
I've
been
very
careful
and
so
just
as
a
warning
having
your
shots
and
your
boosters
really
keeps
it
low
as
far
as
how
you
suffer
from
it.
But
at
the
same
time
it
keeps
you
from
participating
in
the
public
life,
but
as
far
as
this
particular
goal
goes,
I
did.
I
send
my
comments
in
written
because
I
wasn't
sure
about
my
voice,
but
I
wanted
to
say
about
the
housing,
the
housing
commission
being
involved.
D
D
They
also,
I
note
that
when
the
council
changed
the
emc
process
for
outreach
to
that
cep,
it
reduced
the
diversity
of
people
included
from
the
city's
process.
Two
council
members
a
planning
commissioner
and
a
housing
commissioner,
even
although
very
fine
people
and
tesla,
is
an
excellent
chair
planning.
Commissioner
for
below
market
rate
housing.
D
No
one
from
the
communities
directly
affected
by
fffh
were
included.
The
people
on
the
cep
have
insights
already
incorporated
into
the
communication.
Loop
excuse
me
of
the
city.
Others
were
excluded
by
this
change,
and
then
I
would
go
on
to
say
the
reason.
Another
reason
that
I'm
not
in
favor
is
that
sources
more
knowledgeable
with
affordable
housing
strategies
are
available
than
those
of
this
housing.
D
Commission,
local,
non-profit
builders
specifically
also
charities,
housing
voices
like
theirs
would
have
been
on
the
outreach
panel
if
it
had
not
been
disbanded
by
the
city
council,
so
I
will
say
that
right
now,
I
would
not
recommend
that
this
housing
commission
be
on
the
joint
meeting
with
other
legislative
bodies.
This
is
not
our
area
of
expertise.
D
D
D
D
D
I
think
that
if
this
commission
is
not
familiar
with
the
cwp
process
of
2022,
then
you
absolutely
cannot
make
any
further
demands
upon
staff
time
to
support
this
particular
activity
of
this
letter
that
we're
thinking
about.
I
can
understand
some
frustration
about
the
group
not
being
included
in
the
housing
element
process
on
the
timing
to
which
we
feel
that
it
should
be
done,
but
I
do
think
that
we
don't
understand
completely,
but
what
is
needed,
and
so,
therefore,
I
I
recommend
that
we
do
not
send
a
letter.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
comment.
Commissioner.
Cunningham.
Did
you,
commissioner
tadachari
your?
Do
you
have
your
hand
raised.
F
F
In
terms
of
the
actual
item,
it's
a
question
of
we
prepared
memorandum
to
this
to
the
city
council
to
me,
the
intentionally
that
we
want
to
be
participating
in
the
in
the
joint
meeting.
You
know
both
currently
planned
june
28
and
potential
joint
meetings
with
other
legislative
bodies,
which
I'm
not
aware
of.
I,
I
think
the
point
which
raises
that
this
is
a
once
in
a
eight
cycle
item
and
some
of
us
not
necessarily
in
the
st
as
a
housing
commissioner,
but
in
our
personal
cap.
F
You
know
as
a
member
of
the
public,
I
participate
in
the
housing
element
cycles,
both
the
previous
one,
as
well
as
the
current
one
at
the
city
level,
as
well
as
extra
effort
to
be
part
of
the
abac
meetings,
a
bag,
mtc
meetings
in
san
francisco.
F
So
to
a
large
extent
we
understand
the
lean
up
process.
You
know
there's
no
way
that
one
can
explain
the
intensity,
explain
the
depth
of
knowledge,
that's
definitely
a
different
issue,
but
in
terms
of
being
participating,
I
think
the
the
strength
that
we
bring
from
housing
commission
is
we
are
the
people
who
are
actually
implementing
the
housing
strategies.
F
F
Beyond
that,
I
do
not
anticipate
the
role
would
expand
in
terms
of
making
demands
on
the
on
the
what
I
would
say,
the
planning
department,
our
community
development
department,
we.
So
I
the
other
thing
is
that
you
know
we
could
not
have
anticipated
this
to
be
a
part
of
the
cwp,
because
cwp
and
housing
element
cycles
have
a
different.
They
mapped
out
somewhat
differently.
F
So
that
is,
you
know
just
in
terms
of
what
I
would
like
to
express
why
we
need
to
participate,
but
I'm
I'm
fine
with
you
know
with
sending
a
memo
which
essentially
identifies
our
role
as
more
participatory,
and
you
know
we
know
it.
We
are
already
an
advisory
body
and
then
that
you
know
it
also
makes
sure
that
we
are
keeping
ourselves
abreast
of
what
is
going
on
in
the
city
in
terms
of
the
housing
element
process.
So
that's
pretty
much
where
I
would
like
to
start.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner
tyler
jerry.
If
you
want
to
put
your
hand
down
so
when
I
have
a
couple
of
items
that
I
wanted
to
present,
but
first
I
wanted
to
reference
our
duties
and
powers,
duty
powers
and
responsibilities.
B
Number
two
point:
eight
six
point:
one
hundred
and
the
first
one
first
item
says:
the
powers
and
functions
of
the
housing
commission
should
be
as
follows:
a
to
assist
the
planning
commission
and
the
city
council
in
developing
housing
policies
and
strategies
for
implementation
of
general
planning,
housing
element
goals.
B
So
what
does
this
say
that
so
this
this
meeting
here
is
for
us
to
discuss
how
we
can
be
more
active,
and
so
what
I
did
is
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research.
I
went
ahead
and
went
back
to
the
last
housing
element
and
in
the
last
housing
element,
if
you
have
january
2014,
I
am
now
going
to
attempt
to
share
my
screen.
B
B
New
business
general
plan,
housing
element
staff
notified
and
requested
attendance
from
the
commission
regarding
an
upcoming
general
plan,
housing
element,
joint
planning,
commission
housing,
commission
study
session,
scheduled
for
january
23,
2014
at
6,
30
pm
note.
This
was
a
study
session
because
from
what
I
have
seen
and
says,
commission
staff
will
also
follow
up
with
housing.
Commission
members
who
were
not
present
at
the
meeting
to
request
their
participation
at
the
upcoming
general
plan.
Housing
element
joint
planning
meeting,
so
the
housing
did
not
have
any
comments
about
this.
B
B
I'm
looking
at
this
going
forward,
I've
been
in
the
housing
commission
for
three
years
now.
I
don't
particularly
I'm
not
interested
in.
What's
happened
before
I'm
not
interested
in
in
what
should
have
or
could
have
I'm
only
looking
at
going
forward,
because
when
I
joined
this
commission,
I
looked
at
these
responsibilities
and
I
thought
this
is
what
we're
gonna
do
so
we're
gonna
meet
with
you
know:
maybe
housing
developers,
low-income
bmr,
develop
developers
and
and
look
at
how
we
can
come
up
with
innovative
approaches.
B
We
should
be
an
advisory
committee
commission
advising
the
planning
commission
on
how
to
and
how
to
be.
You
know
like
if
they
have
the
environmental
right
now
they
have
the
environmental
impact
we
should
be.
As
a
commission,
I
I
believe
this
is
my
bring
to
the
table.
I
believe
we
should
be
saying
these
are
the
policies
we
recommend
for
housing
for
the
environmental
impacts.
Do
we
want?
You
know
more
green
ways
to
build
houses?
B
B
Indeed,
those
when
requested
by
the
director
of
community
development
or
the
city
council
to
make
recommendations
to
the
planning,
commission
and
the
city
council
regarding
affordable
housing
proposals
in
connection
with
applications
for
development,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
recommendations
for
possible
fee
waivers.
You
know
we're
considering
and
talking
I'm
going
to
pause
from
reading
that
we're
considering
and
talking
about
how
we
can
get
the
developers
to
develop
what
has
been
already
approved,
we're
in
a
housing
shortage.
We
should
be
involved
in
in
research
and
in
proposing
these
whenever
possible.
B
Other
incentives,
the
number
and
type
of
affordable
units
and
target
groups
to
be
served
any
referral
to
the
housing
commission
shall
be
limited
to
consideration
for
affordable
housing
proposals
which
exceed
normal
housing
requirements
under
the
applicable
provisions
of
the
city
and
then
e.
It
says
to
make
recommendations
regarding
requests
for
money
from
c
d
c
dbg,
which
is
what
we
do
to
make
recommendations
regarding
that
I
you
know,
do
we
make
recommendations?
B
Vice
mayor
chao
has
been
researching
this
quite
a
bit
and
met
with
some
developers
for
affordable
housing
has
attended
some
meetings
and
stuff,
and
I
I
looked
at
this
and
kind
of
went.
You
know
what
it
what
is
expected
of
us.
So
another
thing
I
I'll
take
one
more
minute
and
then
I'll
open
it
to
the
rest
of
the
commissioners.
B
I
looked
at
the
city
of
menlo
park
and
their
housing
element
update.
I
encourage
you,
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
share
that,
but
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
that.
It's
not
a
very
long
video,
but
it
has
the
housing.
Commission
and
the
planning
commission
working
together
on
both
of
these
items
to
come
up
with
on
the
proposal
it's
they're
at
the
end
of
their
they're,
already
submitting
it.
Their
last
update
was
pretty
much
here's
what
we're
going
to
present.
B
So
I
I
highly
recommend
that
the
purpose
for
me
wanting
to
have
this
was
so
that
we
as
commissioners,
can
discuss
how
we
could
fulfill
our
duties
and
responsibilities
going
forward.
We
have
a
challenge
in
that
we
do
have
a
shortage
of
staff
like
connie
commissioner
cunningham
mentioned,
and
so
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
discuss
how
we're
going
to
do
this
without
burdening
the
our
housing
manager
who's,
carrying
a
huge
load
and
preparing
mostly
right
now,
a
very
busy
cycle.
B
So
I
I
think
what
I'm
considering
for
me
for
my
goal
is
going
forward.
You
know
how
to
be
connected
with
the
manager,
a
housing
manager
on
how
we
can
assist
her
rather
than
be
a
burden,
and
then,
with
the
housing
element,
we
do
have
a
joint
planning
commission
already
on
the
agenda.
I
requested
that
to
the
planning
commissioner,
who
more
than
welcomed
it
and
mayor
supported
it.
So
we
will
have
we.
B
We
are
scheduled
to
have
that
part
of
why
I
suggested
that
we
all
have
research
it
so
that
we
don't
have
to
be
a
burden
and
we
can
participate
in
a
smart
way.
Okay,
that's
what
I
all
I
have
to
say.
Now,
I'm
going
to
start
sharing
anybody,
I
see
any
other
hands.
Commissioner
tadachari.
D
Okay,
I
can
defer
to
let
other
people
speak.
I
did
already
speak
for
a
fairly
long
time,
so
I'd
like
to
hear
other
commissioners
and
then
then
I
can
speak
again.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Todd
chari.
F
So,
in
keeping
with
that
same
sentiment,
I
think
it's
better
that
we
have
commissioner
da
speak
before
us,
and
then
you
know
I
can
always
come
back
and
you
know
fill
in
whatever
I
had
to
say.
C
Hey
tessa
thanks
a
lot,
so,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we
are
discussing
over
here,
as
per
the
agenda
point
number
three,
that
whether
we
need
to
have
some
representation
or
not,
and
if
we
should
request
city
council
to
have
us,
allow
or
send
somebody
in
those
meetings
right,
for
example,
for
this
preparation
of
the
housing
elements
plan.
C
C
C
First
of
all,
I
have
no
idea
even
what
housing
element
means
beyond
certain
extent
or
just
seeing
the
document
as
we
speak,
but
I
believe
that
most
of
us
may
be
in
a
similar
boat,
where
we
don't
have
much
prior
exposure
on
what
housing
element
means
or
what
it
means
to
give
useful
feedback
and
valuable
inputs.
C
But
I
think,
if
somebody
has
the
motivation
and
wants
to
go
over
it,
a
few
weekends
or
few
evenings
first
understand
what
it
means:
google
up
here
and
there
and
then
see
what
our
current
housing
element
means
and
how
we
can
improve
it.
Then
I
think
we
should
definitely
support
that
person,
because
just
because
we
don't
have
some
prior
exposure
in
housing,
elements
doesn't
mean
that
none
of
the
five
commissioners
should
take
a
look
at
it
if
he
or
she
wants
to
so,
I
would
say,
for
example,
again
it
comes
down
to.
C
A
So
I
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
add
at
this
point
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
that
there
is
a
joint
housing
commission
and
planning
commission
meeting
on
june
28th
and
we
do
have
a
quorum.
I
understand
all
five
housing
commissioners
are
planning
to
attend
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
I
wanted
to
highlight
the
subject
matter
of
that
meeting.
A
The
goal
of
the
joint
planning
commission
housing
commission
meeting
on
june
28
is
to
get
a
recommendation
from
the
commissions,
both
commissions
together
to
the
city
council,
regarding
which
sites
and
properties
should
be
included
on
the
housing
site's
inventory.
The
city
council
is
approving,
is
the
approving
body
for
the
site's
inventory.
A
So
the
packet
will
be
coming
out
shortly,
and
that
would
be
a
good
opportunity
for
you
for
you
to
dial
in
and
prepare
for
the
the
joint
the
joint
meeting,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
clear
there
is
a
meeting
planned
and
housing
commission
will
be
well
represented
and
participating.
B
C
I
think
I
think
the
joint
meeting
is
definitely
helpful
and
we'll
all
learn
we'll
all
get
to
learn
a
few
new
things
or
many
new
things,
but
coming
back
to
this,
this
agenda
topic
are
we
supposed
to
decide
today
that
whether
we
want
somebody
there
or
we
can
wait
till
that
joint
meeting
gets
over
for
us
to
get
a
better,
feel
or
idea
about
what
things
are
and
aren't
that
too
related
are
totally
not
related,
so
we're
we.
B
Already
have
a
planned,
a
scheduled
joint
session
with
the
planning
commission
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
it's
part
of
our
duty
as
commissioners
and
when
I
discussed
it
with
the
planning
commissioner
and
the
may,
and
the
mayor,
supported
it,
because
it
is
part
of
our
duties
again
going
back
to
to
what
we're
supposed
to
be
and-
and
it
will
come
back
because,
of
course
I
wanted
to
just
respond.
I
missed
one
of
the.
C
Comments
I'll
go
ahead,
I'm
sorry
for
interrupting.
So
you
are
saying
that
point
number
three
in
the
agenda
today
that
whether
we
should
have
some
representation
or
request
city
council
to
allow
us
to
be
a
part
of
the
process.
You
are
saying
that
it's
more
a
responsibility
than
a
choice
right.
We
should
do
it.
B
Well,
so
there's
two
things:
your
question
about
the
joint
session
is
already
scheduled,
so
we
already
have
a
meeting
that
we're
supposed
to
attend.
C
C
B
We've
been
doing
this
for
over
a
year
now
I
believe-
and
this
is
we're
coming
towards
the
end
of
that
process.
B
So
the
only
the
agenda
item
here
is:
how
could
we
be
more
active
as
housing,
commissioners,
as
is
our
duty,
and
so
we,
because
this
is
always
the
way
we've
we
we've
run
things
I
wanted.
Commissioner
tatachari
brought
it
up
and
I
wanted
to
also
discuss
different
ways
and
how
do
we
see
actually
performing
our
duties?
B
That's
that's
what
this
meeting
is
about,
so
we
have
two
different
things
and
in
the
process
of
that
we
went
ahead
and
scheduled
the
plannings
session.
That's
it.
If
I
may,
are
you
I
is
it
okay
or
did
that
happen.
B
Question:
okay,
thank
you!
So
real
quick.
I
wanted
to
respond
to
commissioner
cunningham's
or
say
something
about
him.
F
Since
we
do
still
have
to
add
our
comments,
would
it
be
okay
for
to
request
you
can
comment,
you
can
take
everything
in
total
and
then
offer
your
comments
at
the
end.
Is
that
fine
with
you?
Oh.
B
E
B
Okay,
go
ahead,
who
had
their
hand
first,
commissioner,
charlie.
F
No,
I
believe
commissioner
cunningham
was
basically.
B
In
that
case,
I
do
want
to
respond
to
a
comment
that
she'd
made
previously,
and
I
wanted
to
do
that
before.
We
went
back
the
advisory
committee
that
that
she
was
referring
to
that
the
city
council,
that
she
feels
the
city
council
removed
comments
from
different
portions
of
the
community
representation,
I'm
actually
as
part
of
it.
I
was
listening
and
we
were
hearing
comments
from
the
public,
complaining
that
where
did
people
these
groups
come
from
and
who
selected
these
representations
and
was
it
just
limited
to
them?
B
You
are
able
to
request
and
put
yourself
as
a
leader
of
a
you,
can
form
a
group
and
still
be
participant,
and
you
can
also
reach
add
feedback,
so
it
was
actually
expanded
rather
than
contracted
anyway.
I
in
regards
to
that
topic
about
city,
removing
that
I
don't
believe,
that's
correct,
but
you
know
it
might
be
a
point
of
perspective.
I
encourage
you
all
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
to
go
back
to
those
meetings.
B
They're
online
and
listen
to
public
comments,
as
well
as
go
on
the
city
website
for
the
housing
element
and
see
how
it
is
going
forward.
Okay,
so
comments
were
not
or
participation
was
not
removed,
and
the
advisory
committee
is
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
outreach
that
there
that
there
is
actually
we
request
that
there
be
more
churches,
there's
only
one
or
two
particular
churches
participating
anyway.
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
comments
just
encourage
you
all
to
consider
that.
So
now,
we'll
go
back
to
commissioner
cunningham
your
hand
of
his
race.
G
D
Thank
you
so
much
chair
and
I
appreciate
your
response,
although
I
will
respectfully
say
that
I
disagree
about
the
committee
and
its
purposes
and
so
forth,
but
I
did
want
to
go
back
and
perhaps
help
commissioner
dos
understand
about
where
we
started
in
this
whole
thing
back
in
2021,
when
the
housing
element
was
first
being
kicked
off
april,
27
2021
and
may
11
2021.
D
There
were
two
joint
meetings
with
the
city
council.
The
excuse
me
planning,
commission
and
the
housing
commission
where
the
whole
thing
was
described
and
what
the
various
things
how
it
was
going
to
go
moving
forward.
It
would
probably
be
beneficial
for
commissioner
doss
to
take
a
look
at
those
particular
meetings
because
he
unfortunately
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
be
in
those
meetings.
D
At
that
time
it
was
made
clear
that
the
that
you
know
how
we
were
all
going
to
move
forward
since
the
council
sets
the
direction
for
all
of
this,
and
since
we
have
not
been,
I
mean
we
have
a
formal.
We
have
a
formal
role
like
I
said:
it's
called
the
housing
committee
within
the
housing
element,
but
since
the
time
it
was
set
up
back
in
that
april
may
time
frame,
no,
we
have
not
been
advised
too
much
about
what
the
housing
committee
is
going
to
be.
D
One
is
that
the
city
council
has
not
put
in
feedback
that
we,
you
know
to
the
system
that
that
we
should
be
included
more
and
we
do
get
occasionally
an
email
directly
from
vice
mayor
chao,
which
is
okay,
if,
as
long
as
we
don't
take
it
as
direction
because
no
city
council
member
on
their
own
is
supposed
to
be
directing
the
commissions
or
the
staff,
so
it's
it's
all
complicated.
D
This
is
a
very
complicated
thing
with
the
law
and
how
it's
supposed
to
be
rolled
out.
That's
what
makes
it
difficult
that's
what
makes
communications
hard
to
the
extent
that
people
understand
what's
going
on?
You
know
we
each
you
know
you
remember
the
elephant
tail,
you
see
the
the
nose,
you
see
the
tail,
you
see
the
leg
and
everybody's
got
a
whole
different
idea
of.
D
What's
going
on
so
in
my
opinion,
I
think
we
need
to
trust
the
system
that
was
put
in
place
where
we
have
a
a
staff
members
who
are
excellent
staff
members,
and
we
also
have
a
consultant
who
understands
the
laws
and
stuff
and
are
working
hard
to
to
to
pull
this
all
together
by
interjecting
at
different
places
at
different
times
and
requesting
responses
complicates
the
issue
even
more
than
it's
already
complicated,
and
I
guess
that's
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
the
system
is
hard
enough
as
it
is
and
my
take
on.
D
It
was
last
meeting
of
the
one
before
I
said:
it's
really
important,
but
we
don't
have
to
interject
as
a
commission,
we
can
individually
interject
and
I
have
been
to
the
planning
commissions
and
I
just
encourage
you
also
to
go.
I
mean
we
get
to
bogle
next
week,
no
problems,
but
anything
after
that.
We
can
certainly
go
as
individuals
so
I'll
quit
talking
for
now
and
give
somebody
else
an
opportunity.
Thank
you,
chair.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Cunningham
gang
commissioner
tatachari.
B
I
don't
know
I.t
can,
is
he
able
to
share
his
screen.
A
A
F
Okay,
yeah,
if
we
go
to
the
housing,
I
think
at
the
house
side
there
is
this.
There
is
this
duties,
powers
and
responsibilities:
the
commission.
Actually
it
refers.
That
link
goes
back
to
american
legal
publishing,
which
you
know
defines
you
know:
ca
municipal
testing,
there's
2.86
hundred
duties,
powers
and
responsibilities.
F
A
We
we
have
figured
out
so
csiro
go
ahead
and
give
commissioner
todd
acharya
temporary
co-host
and
then,
when
the
screen
share
is
over,
we
can
remove
it.
We
have
limited,
thank
you
guys
for
working
with
us
on
the
tech
stuff.
A
F
Thank
you.
Oh
that's
good.
Okay,
so
I
wanted
to
highlight
this
so
when
to
be
you
know
when
I
was
applying
for
different
positions.
Commission
politicians,
one
of
the
things
I
had
looked
through-
is
the
responsibility
of
each
of
the
commissions.
F
So
if
you
look
at
this
duties,
powers
and
responsibilities,
I
believe
this
is
mentioned
also
by
again
tessa
parish,
but
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
this
because
it's
useful
for
all
of
us,
so
you
know,
cdbg
is
just
one
of
the
components
of
powers.
You
know
responsibilities
most
of
the
things
a
b
and
c
have
to
do
with
developing
policies,
helping
in
developing
housing
policies
and
strategies.
F
You
know
you
look
at
the
item
number
a
which
is
the
fundamental.
You
know
thing
to
assist
the
planning
commission,
city,
council,
developing
housing
policies
and
strategies
for
for,
for
it
specifically
mentions
here.
It
says:
where
is
it
2.6?
F
Sorry,
sorry
for
scrolling
out
yeah
for
implementation,
the
general
housing
element
goals.
So
it's
not
that
and
we
are
doing
anything
which
is
outside
what
we
need
to
do.
It
is
just
that
it
looked
like
curtail
at
some
point
what
our
responsibilities
are
and
our
participation
submitted
earlier.
So
I
don't
think
we
are
doing
anything
diff
from
what
we
are
supposed
in
terms
of
participating
in
the
government
goals
and
general
plan
process.
F
I
think
that
is
one
second
thing
is
the
centers
held
session
that
was
held.
It
was
a
study
session.
It
was
not
in
session.
It
was
a
study
where
we
were
told
what
actually
the
housing
element
processes.
F
Don't
look
like
it's
not
anticipatory,
it
will
participate
in
that
and
the
second
thing,
the
other
thing
you
have
to
realize
is
this-
did
not
start
on
own
requests
were
made
continuously
to
the
the
council
and
at
one
meeting
I
remember
mayor
there
is
a
documented
saying
that,
which
is
also
signed
by
the
mayor,
essentially
that
they
wanted
us
to
decide
on
what
the
scope
of
work
that
we
will
be
involved
in.
F
So
that
is
already
a
done
done
thing
in
terms
of
council
agreeing
to
have
us
under,
have
us
debate
and
and
come
to
the
just
think
about
what
our
roles
in
response,
how
how
much
we
are
prepared
to
take
in
terms
of
our
our
what
we
want
to
contribute
towards
housing
policies
and
strategies.
F
So
in
a
way,
I
don't
want
to
shift
my
response,
but
like
to
not
be
the
person
you
know,
taking
the
the
policies
and
strategies
after
they
are
decided
at
the
tailpipe
end
rather
participate
in
it,
and
that's
where
my
sentiment
is.
We
are
not
doing
anything
which
is
extraordinary
in
terms
of
changing
what
we
are
supposed
to
do.
F
I
think
we
have
be
a
little
bit
curtailed
in
the
way
of
participation
and
we
are
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
back
into
the
idea
of
having
full
participation
to
be
able
to
advise
the
the
planning
commission
in
the
course
and
the
council,
and
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize.
We
are
advisory
commission.
We
do
not
have
the
powers,
they
take
a
decision
so
by
participating.
B
I
can,
can
I
ask
you
to
wrap
it
up.
We
do
have
members
of
the
public
wanting
to
speak
and
and
if
you
could
just
wrap
it
up
in
the
next
minute,
okay
that'd
be
great
and
then
we're
going
to
come
back
again.
F
I
I
do.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
there
was
in
given
by
us
in
terms
of
the
indian
strategic
advisory
committee,
which
was
formed
that
that
process
is
owned
by
the
city
is
not
owned
by
the
consultant,
and
that
needs
to
be
very
clear
in
the
the
consultants
in,
in
addition
have
engaged
a
sub
consultant.
F
B
A
We
do
have
two
members
of
the
public
with
their
hands
raised.
Please
at
this
time.
If
you
intend
to
speak,
raise
your
hands
as
we
will
be
closing
public
comments
when
the
hands
discontinue,
you
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
I'll,
go
ahead
and
stop
and
start
and
we'll
have
a
timer
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
give
there
we
go
we'll
do
our
best
to
give
some
notice.
So
first
member
of
the
public
is
peggy
griffin
welcome.
I
will
open
your
time.
I
Good
evening,
commissioners
and
staff
I
good
morning,
sorry,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
discussing
this,
and
also
for
all
your
comments.
I
think
you
all
have
brought
very
valid
points
to
this
discussion.
My
concern
as
a
member
of
the
public.
I
I
agree
that
at
the
first
proposal
for
the
emc
it
appeared
that
there
it
had
not
been
opened
up
to
a
larger
variety
of
organizations,
and
so
I
was
glad
to
see
that
there
was
some
oversight
on
direction
and
I
hope
that
in
on
that
group,
I
feel
that
one
representative
from
the
housing
commission
should
also
be
on
it.
In
addition
to
the
member
of
the
planning
commission
and
the
two
city
council
members,
I
think
a
member,
a
knowledgeable
member,
that's
volunteering
on
it
should
be
on
it
also.
I
I
believe
that
the
next
step
in
the
housing
element
process
is
the
establishing
the
goals,
policies
and
strategies
to
implement
the
housing
element,
and
since
it's
already
in
your
responsibilities,
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
time
to
step
in
and
be
involved
from
the
beginning
on
the
development
of
these
policies.
They're
critical.
I
Also,
I
I
thought
that
the
housing
element
or
the
housing
commission
should
be
the
or
become
the
experts
on
the
variety
of
housing
options
and
organizations
and
explore
them.
It
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
there
isn't
time
in
the
city,
council
or
the
planning
commission
or
the
staff
to
do
all
this
research
and
gathering
of
data-
and
I
feel
like
the
housing
commission
is
a
place
where
I
I
attended.
A
field
trip
one
time
to
some
affordable
housing
examples.
I
This
is
several
years
ago
connie
cunningham
commissioner
cunningham
attended
along
with
the
vice
mayor
and
a
couple
other
people,
and
I
I
have
heard
that
there
are
options
that
may
not
count
towards
the
the
exact
housing
numbers
but
seniors
seniors,
have
homes
with
rooms,
but
there's
they're
not
going
to
open
it
up.
Unless
somebody
manages
who
comes
in
these
are
affordable
housing,
it
could
be
a
really
win-win
situation
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much
for
discussing
this.
B
H
You
carrie-
this
has
been
a
very,
very
interesting
discussion.
I
can
see
people
are
very
passionate
about
this.
I'll.
Tell
you
right
now
that
the
I
this
is
my
third
or
fourth
housing
element
that
we've
gone
through
and
this
housing
element
has
turned
into.
I
call
it
a
circus
snowball.
H
It
has
gotten
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger
and
more
complicated,
and
I
can
understand
why
people
are
very,
very
passionate
about
it.
I
right
now
I'm
just
going
to
take
the
initial
issue
with
hchcd,
because
we've
never
had
so
many
edicts
coming
down
from
hcd
before
the
2014
housing
element.
I
was
probably
at
that
meeting
that
that
test
that
chair
tessa
had
talked
about.
We've
never
had
these
conflicting
things
coming
down
from
hcd
like
like
we
southern
california,
hats
did
their
housing
a
limit.
Last
year.
H
There
are
new
things
that
hcd
is
coming
up
with
that
we're
getting
blasted
with
first
that
sca
that
southern
california
didn't
even
have
to
have.
I
have
to
follow
what's
going
on
here.
I
also
have
to
follow
what's
going
on
in
santa
cruz,
because
my
mother,
okay,
she's
90,
but
she
is
a
pro
she
has
the
she
was
able
to
have
a
home.
H
She
owns
property
in
santa
cruz
county
and
there
are
only
two
incorporated
cities
that
she's
involved
with,
which
is
capital
and
santa
cruz,
I'm
having
to
follow
like
four
or
five
housing
elements
in
santa
cruz
county.
My
mother
has
three
neighbor
sewer
connections
in
the
back
of
her
property
from
1920
zoning
and
no
one
can
put
an
adu
in
her
back
area,
but
I'm
not
convinced
somebody
wouldn't
try,
but
I
I
just
think
that
hcd
has
been
very,
very
confused.
H
It
has
confused
the
public
and
and
made
things
worse
because
they're
coming
up
with
new
laws
like
every
every
two
weeks
and
I'm
emc
has
been
struggling
to
keep
up
with
them
the
public.
I
wasn't
able
to
go
to
the
may
24th
meeting
because
we
were
in
orlando
florida.
I've
been
trying
to
follow
it,
but
I'm
really
glad
you
guys
are
having
a
meeting
on
june
28th,
because
I
will
tell
you
frankly
right
now.
H
B
Thank
you
very
much
jenny.
I
I
we
appreciate
your
comment
and
yes,
I've
been
following
those
elements
as
well.
Do
we
have
any
other
comments
or.
A
I
do
want
to
do
it
a
time
check
and
just
make
sure
the
commission
is
prepared
to
to
wrap
up
the
discussion
around
10,
45
or
11.
If
we
can
yes.
B
And-
and
that
included
we
need
to
do-
we
have
to
finish
the
memorandum
today
or
can
we
table
that
and
put
that
for
the
next
meeting
sure
since.
A
This
is
your
item
chair
if
you
would
like
to
continue
it
to
another
you're.
Welcome
to.
I
just
want
to
advise
the
commission
that
any
work
done
on
this
item
needs
to
be
done
in
the
public
setting
unless
it's
part
of
the
agenda
packet.
So
chair
you're,
always
welcome
to
draft
a
memo
and
put
it
into
the
the
packet
for
a
future
item
for
discuss
for
public
review
and
discussion.
You
just
would
not
want
to
draft
it
in
consultation
with
commissioners.
It
would
be
something
you
prepared
yourself
and
then
deliberated
on.
B
Right,
okay
sounds
good,
so
I'm
just
I'm
concerned
about
the
time
that
we
have
so
we
have
conditioner
cunningham
with
her
hand
raised
again.
Yes,.
D
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
parish.
D
I
wanted
to
maybe
make
some
historical
comments,
because
I
know
that
commissioner
das
had
suggested
that
you
know
that
someone
needs
to
pull
together
some
information
for
historically
the
housing
element
has
been
something
that
is
done
every
eight
years
and
so
for
40
years,
hcd
sent
out
the
requirement
and
the
cities
all
responded,
and
unfortunately,
after
the
result
of
40
years
of
housing,
elements
wherein
many
many
cities
in
the
state
of
california
have
not
created
housing
enough
to
for
its
citizens
and
has
created.
D
Therefore,
the
housing
crisis
that
we
have,
the
new
law
that
came
out
had
some
more
teeth
in
it,
meaning
that
they
plan
to
actually
oversee
it
and
manage
it
better.
Before
you
just
had
to
say
we
tried,
and
if
we
didn't
build
any
houses,
oh
well,
and
there
was
never
any.
There
was
nothing
that
had
that
happened
to
the
city
because
they
didn't
build
housing
enough
for
their
people.
So
that
is
what
has
happened
in
this
one.
D
It
does
have
more
teeth,
and
I
do
I
do
understand
that
that
has
caused
a
lot
of
perturbation.
I
do
not
agree
with
the
characterization
oftentimes
that
you
hear
from
gee
everywhere
about
the
state.
I
think
they're
working
very
hard
to
solve
the
housing
crisis,
which
is
severe,
and
I
hope
in
fact,
that
my
participation
in
this
whole
process
is
to
make
sure
that
our
city
does
have
a
good
housing
element
and
that
we
do
provide
housing
for
all
incomes
and
abilities
in
our
city.
D
We
have
a
number
of
ideas,
including
infill
housing,
which
will
combine
with
transit,
which
brings
people
closer
to
their
work,
which
means
there'll,
be
less
traffic
and
then
so
you're
reducing
traffic,
which
is
a
big
deal
for
a
lot
of
people,
you're
also
bringing
people
closer
to
their
work,
so
they
don't
have
to
travel
so
far,
so
it
reduces
commute
times.
You've
got.
B
B
I
want
to
keep
it
focused
on
how
we,
as
a
commission
can
participate
better
so
that
I
want
to
take
this
time.
So
what
your,
if
you
want
to
connect
it
to
what
we
have
on
the
agenda?
How
can
we,
as
commissioners
like
what
you
said-
environmental
and
all
those?
How
can
we
affect
that
better
and
perform
our
duties?
I
would
I
appreciate
that.
D
D
You
I
was
wondering
a
bit
because
I'm
very
passionate
indeed
about
this.
So
as
far
as
what
I
think
we
should
be
doing,
we
should
be
paying
attention
to
all
of
these
things
and
providing
our
individual
input
as
we
see
fit
and
then
attend
the
meeting
next
week,
and
I
don't
think
that
inserting
ourselves
without
understanding
what
the
rest
of
how
this
impacts,
the
rest
of
the
staff
and
the
process
is
a
good
idea.
So
I
guess
that
summarizes
it.
B
So
so,
commissioner,
that
there's
two
things:
the
planning
commission,
joint
commission
that's
coming
up
is
one
thing,
and
this
agenda
item
is
going
forward
right
how
we
could
so
this
is
not
inserting
ourselves.
This
is
how
we
can
perform
our
duties
going
forward.
So
if
you
have
any
ideas
on
on
that,
do
you
want
to
pause
on
that
and
think
about
that
and
come
back
or
do
you.
D
Well,
actually,
my
answer
to
that
is.
I
don't
think
that
we
can
put
in
our
ideas
and
in
in
some
kind
of
pure
world
we
put
in
our
ideas.
Somebody
says:
oh
yeah,
you
have
to
do
that.
Then
the
staff
has
to
do
something.
It's
not
that
simple
and
I
just
no.
I
don't
think
I
have
to
consider
it
more.
I
will
consider
it
more
and
I
will
stop
comrading
now.
Thank
you.
Okay,
okay,.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I'm
just
gonna
come
back
to
just
wanted
to
look
at
in
order.
B
B
We
could
say,
for
example,
at
the
end,
when
we
request
an
item
be
added
to
the
agenda.
If
we
requested
and
coordinated
several
developers
for
low-income
housing
to
come
and
talk
to
us
about
what
each
one
requires,
for
example,
do
they
require
specific
underwriting
items?
What
do
they
look
for
in
a
property?
What
could
we
do
to
incentivize
so
that
we
could
propose
a
policy
change
or
an
incentive
to
planning?
Commission
planning
commission
does
a
lot
of
things
and
based
watching
them.
B
I
have
seen
some
of
the
items
that
they
do
kind
of
fall
into
our
role,
things
that
are
we're
not
advising
them
on,
and
so
I
don't.
I
think
this
has
been
by
default
in
one
of
the
meetings.
Mr
fu,
I
forget
his
position.
A
community
manager,
I
believe
had
said
yes,
it'll,
go
to
the
housing
committee
commission,
but
only
to
for
information
only
he
wasn't
trying
to
get
her
input.
B
He
wasn't
so,
and
I
I
don't
think
it's
it's
it's
it's
just
the
way
it's
been
done
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say.
It's,
it's
just
the
way
things
have
been,
and
so
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
to
maybe
perhaps
change
those
so
where
we
take
in
any
position,
if
you,
if
you
get
hired
for
a
position
the
way
I
see
it
is
I
take
on
my
job
and
my
duty
and
and
assume
the
responsibility
and
how
it
plays
with
the
other,
the
other
players
right.
B
So
if
we
brought
people
with
from
the
developers
and
then
if
we
went
site
selection,
we
have
six
million
dollars
from
silicon
valley,
we
literally
could
propose
a
property
for
six
million.
We
could,
as
a
commission,
select
a
property
or
propose.
I
mean
that
would
be
an
agenda
item.
Can
we
consider,
does
you
know?
Can
we
open
this
up?
Do
we
have
what
I?
What
properties
can
be
brought
forth
now
with
the
ability
to
create
a
four
five
plex,
etc?
B
This
is
I'm
this
meeting,
I'd
like
it
to
be
where
we
think.
How
can
we
fulfill
this?
How
do
we
come
up
with
policies
to
advise
on
who
do
we
invite
again?
This
is
not
us
to
do,
but
just
put
on
the
agenda
for
us
to
discuss
and
us
as
commissioners
bring
forth
information
and
perhaps
a
proposal
that
we
could
submit
and
help.
My
my
only
concern
really
is:
do
we
and
I
don't
know-
I
thought
I
heard
I
heard
some
commissions-
maybe
housing
manager
can
can
respond
to
this.
B
I
heard
some
other
commissions
are
able
to
have
meetings
without
taking
up
a
staff
if
they
keep
meeting
notes
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
this
city
or
another
city,
but
if
we're
able
to
have
a
meeting
with
recorded
or
otherwise
in
minutes,
are
we
able
to
do
something
where
we
do
work
without
having
to
take
up
your
time?
Kerry,
chair,
parish,.
A
I'm
not
aware
of
a
commission
that
would
be
able
to
run
a
public
hearing
without
staff.
You
would
need
the
support
of
this
whole
infrastructure.
H
A
To
add
chair
that
anytime,
an
item
comes
to
housing,
commission,
it
is
for
information
and
input,
and
it's
considered
and
so,
for
example,
today's
meeting
there's
so
much
valuable
information,
that's
being
discussed
from
both
the
commissioners
and
the
public
we
will
make
sure
to
share
with
staff,
enter
basically
enter
it
into
the
housing
element
process.
So,
as
you
are
working
on
the
concept
of
a
memo,
we're
also
grabbing
information
and
and
making
sure
that
it's
well
received
and
that
it's
moved
forward
and
considered
basically
so
there's
a
lot
that
happens
behind
the
scene.
A
But
anytime,
an
item
comes
before
housing
commission,
as
director
foo
had
mentioned
to
you
earlier.
It
is,
it
is
informational
and
invaluable.
B
B
This
is
why
I
wanted
to
open
it
for
discussion.
How
can
we
well
if,
if
our
job
is
to
assist
planning
in
developing
and
counsel
and
developing
housing
policies
and
strategies,
how
do
we
come
up
with
those
policies
and
strategies,
if
not
through
information
and
research
right,
so
what
research
developers
policies
so
do
we
make
it
or
should
propose
or
suggest
a
policy
that
only
green
builders,
be
you
know
we
don't
want
to
limit
it,
but
you
see
what
I
mean.
It's
just
an
example
of
policies.
B
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Vice
chair,
I
guess
one
thing
just
keeping
in
mind
what
you
had
said
tessa
about
things
that
we
can
do
and
don't
whatever
one
of
the
things
when
I
was
first
on
the
commission,
every
every
every
meeting,
a
planning
commissioner
had
been
assigned
to
come
to
the
housing
commission
to
keep.
D
I
guess
that
open
line
of
communication
now
I
haven't
seen
that
happen
in
a
very
long
time,
certainly
not
on
a
regular
basis,
so
so
not
to
say
that
they
should
be
or
whatever,
but
maybe
that's
something
that
vice
chair
tarachari
was
speaking
to
when
he
was
talking
about
keeping
communications
open
or
whatever,
but
we
could
certainly
do
that.
D
You
know
having
a
housing,
commissioner,
attend
planning
commission
meetings
to
to
give
feedback
now,
given
I
don't
think
you
can
give
feedback
from
the
commission,
but
you
can
certainly
take
information
back
and
bring
it
to
our
so
anyway,
just
just
a
thought-
and
I
also
just
real
quickly-
wanted
to
mention
that
I
think
there
it
could
be
an
ethical
issue
with
a
commission
selecting
properties.
It
was
in
our
training
when
we
took
that
at
the
beginning
of
this
year,
so
I
would
really
caution
us
to
be
careful.
D
We
don't
want
to
mess
up
any
any
below
market
rate,
housing,
selections
of
properties
that
we
would
make.
So
I
guess
that's
that's
it
and
thank
you.
I
will
take
down
my
hands.
Okay,.
B
So
could
you
could
you
give
me
a
little
more
info
on
what
you
were
talking
about?
The
ethical?
Are
you
talk,
meaning
us
pre,
bringing
a
property
specific
property-
or
I
was
referring
more
to
like
the
city,
has
properties
that
they've
identified
or
like
the
property
that
was
the
steakhouse
on
de
anza.
Remember
that
that
one
got
oh,
okay,
okay,
that's
what
I'm
talking
about.
D
B
F
Yeah,
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
I
hope
it
happens
in
the
future-
it's
not
now,
but
when
we
actually
go
for
a
commission
position,
we
look
at
the
person,
responsibilities
and
rules
and
kind
of
you
know,
look
at
whether
it's
what
we
want
to
do.
F
If,
whatever
is
the
you
know,
it's
not
efficient
that
you
just
participate
in
few
of
the
commission
meetings,
but
also
to
be
able
to
wholesomely
understand
the
issue
that
that
the
the
kind
of
challenge
that
commission
is
dealing
with
so
housing
is
definitely
a
very,
very
important
issue
not
only
for
the
state
but
nationally
and,
I
think,
participating
in
a
par
as
part
of
the
housing
commission.
F
There
are
two
things
one
needs
to
highlight:
one
is
the
advisory
role
of
the
commission.
The
second
is
that
they
do
have
to
participate
in
the
policies
and
strategies.
So
there
has
to
be
certain
level
of
either
prior
knowledge
or
people
should
be
prepared
to.
You
know,
learn
it
as
they
go
quickly
as
quickly
as
possible,
because
we
that's
the
only
way
we
are
going
to
level
us.
F
F
Only
talk
in
this
kind
of
forum
talk
in
as
a
as
a
member
of
the
public
in
other
meetings,
so
there
are
areas
which
cannot.
There
are
certain
things
which
we
cannot
express,
or
we
cannot
in
bring
it
into
what
I
would
say
bring
it
into
effect
unless
you
are
participating
in
in
this.
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
like
about
this
agenda
three
is
that
we
are
actually
able
to
discuss
this
item
which
otherwise
cannot
be
discussed
easily
right.
F
Let
me
come
to
the
suggestion,
so
I
think
I
agree
that
there
are
ethical
issues
by
getting
involved
in
individual
individual
decisions.
You
know
in
terms
of
site
selection
or
whatever,
but
there's
definite
that
I
that
a
commission
can
participate
in
the
process
and
there's
no
reason
why
we
should
kind
of
share.
F
F
That's
the
reason
it's
handed
over
to
a
consultant,
so
I
think
I
I
tend
to
agree
with
the
observation
made
by
commissioner
cunningham,
that
you
know
we
need
to
be
very
careful
about
where
the
boundaries
lie,
but
at
the
same
time,
unless
we
are
prepared
to
take-
and
you
know-
participate
very
very
well
in
the
process-
and
you
know-
accept
our
responsibilities
and
find
a
way
to
execute
them,
because
there
are
so
many
ideas
that
can
come
up
and
there
are
so
many
ways
we
can
effectuate
ourselves
to
be
a
better
commission
and
also
be
able
to
play
a
better
advisory
role.
B
Yes,
okay,
so
I
don't
know
if
this
is
something
we
could.
I
just
thought
of
this
right
now,
as
I'm
considering
all
this.
So
if
we
are
to
be
every
anything
housing,
people
think
of
the
housing
commission
I'll
never
forget
for
about
four
years
ago
we
had
a
different
council
and
what
an
item
had
come
up
and
one
of
the
council
members
actually
asked.
Has
this
gone
to
housing?
The
item
hadn't
gone
to
housing
and
he
said:
what's
it
doing
here,
why
isn't
it
going
to
housing?
B
And
why
is
it
coming
to
us
without
the
advice
from
or
the
recommendation
from
housing?
And
that
was
the
first
time
I
I
my
ears
perked
up
about
housing,
because
I
think
the
role
is
a
lot
more
important
and
if
everyone
in
the
city,
if
we
made,
if
we
did
our
jobs,
if
we
do
our
jobs
because
I'd
like
to
see
it
going
forward
our
jobs
well
enough,
it's
not
us
making
a
comment
as
an
individual,
because
that's
not
what
the
responsibilities
are.
So
we
are
as
a
commission,
our
that's
our
responsibility.
B
If
we,
everyone
thinks
hey,
there's
this
item
on
housing
coming
up
for
environmental
impact,
what
does
the
housing
commission
have
to
say
about
that?
If
we
were
in
tune
with
whatever
everything
that's
happening
out,
everything
everywhere
else
in
the
city
planning
or
otherwise,
then
we
would
be
called
upon
to
advise
and
we
would
have
already
had
a
meeting
to
discuss
that.
Do
you
see
what
I
mean,
so
I
kind
of
think
it's
it's
intertwined
and
it's
part
of
planning
it
beforehand.
B
So
if
we
see
that,
for
example,
the
low
income
and
very
low
income
that
is
coming,
that
was
coming
up
in
the
hamptons
or
the
wherever
and
they
wanted
it.
If
we
were
involved,
we
would
have
had
a
meeting
to
discuss
that
and
decided
to
send
a
recommendation
or
proposal
to
planning
or
even
how
to
join
session.
During
that,
do
you
see
us
if
people,
if
the
city
thought
anything
housing,
housing
commission
they
would?
B
We
would
be
involved
as
part
of
the
process
and
that's
where
I
think
we
need
to
make
ourselves
known
to
the
rest
of
the
city
by
the
way
mayor.
As
soon
as
commissioner
tadachari
mentioned,
that
and
during
the
city
council
meeting
that
we
were
not
as
involved
mayor
paul
was
surprised,
and
he
said
oh
now-
that
we
know
that
a
commission
is
being
underutilized
and
just
prior
to
that
mayor
and
vice
mayor
had
worked
on
our
handbook
to
make
sure
that
we
were
participating.
B
So
I
think
it's
I
don't
it's.
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
if
we're
not
being
called
upon,
it's
because
the
city
council
doesn't
want
us
to
this
happened
but
way
before
then,
like
I
said
with
the
previous
council
members
things
weren't
going
to
housing
commission
either.
So
it's
but
again
it's
as
part
of
how
it's
things
are
being
done
and
now
going
forward.
I'd
like
I
personally
would
like
to
see
our
role
being
fulfilled
as
a
commission
where
they
think
housing.
What
does
the
housing
commission
have
to
say
about
that?
B
Has
a
housing
commission
in
either
they
send
it
to
us
beforehand
so
that
it's
ready
when
they
need
to
have
their
meeting
or
we
if
we're
already
involved
with
everything
else,
have
already
planned
on
that
meeting
to
basically
give
input
how
we
can
accomplish.
That
is,
hopefully
the
what
I'm
trying
to
discuss
here.
G
B
Okay,
okay,
is
that
okay,
commissioner
cunningham?
If
she
speaks
for
now,
I
said:
okay,
yeah!
Okay,
thank
you
go
ahead,
commissioner.
Votes.
G
Thank
you,
commissioner
parish.
So
I
believe
that,
in
order
to
move
forward
in
the
section
that
we
should
given
the
disabilities
as
put
down,
we
need
to
just
like
you
have
done
in
this
case,
put
it
down
on
our
list
of
items
to
be
discussed
at
the
future
meetings.
And
then
we
can
discuss
those
items
at
the
meeting
and
in
that
way
we
will
have
the
support
of
the
staff
and
we
discuss
the
items
and
be
able
to
assist
the
planning
commission
and
give
recommendations
to
the
city
as
needed.
B
E
A
To
go
ahead
go
ahead
sure
for
the
benefit
of
the
group.
I
wanted
to
mention
that
the
future
agenda
item.
We
keep
a
list
of
the
commission's
desire,
but
these
are
all
based
on
resources
and
budget
in
addition
to
the
work
program.
So
any
item
that
comes
before
you
ahead
of
staff,
resources
or
budget
would
need
to
be
chair,
initiated
with
the
agenda
item
and
the
materials
like
today,
but
an
item
like
any
item
that
requires
staff.
A
B
Yes,
thank
you,
and
my
hopes
is
that
we
have
a
fully
manned
staff
soon
and
and
we
that's
we're
not
taking
too
much
of
a
burden
on
you,
housing
manager.
Yes,
okay,
so
sue
going
back
to
what
you
just
said,
then
my
is
it
possible?
B
What
do
you
think
about
like
if
we
consider,
when
we
say
any
items
to
can
add
to
the
agenda?
We
also
consider
doing
that.
Are
there
any
other
commissions
or
anything
else
happening
within
the
city
that
we
need
to
look
at?
B
G
So
the
the
point,
the
point
that
kerry
was
making
and
based
on
what
I
understand
the
way
the
housing
commission
works
is
whatever
we
do
and
in
order
to
go
according
to
the
brown
act
rules,
we
have
to
do
it
within
the
the
limitations
of
the
meeting
and
it
would
have
to
be
within
the
meeting.
We
cannot
go
and
do
things
outside
the
meeting.
Oh.
B
Okay,
so
what
I'm
saying
is
during
after
every
meeting
or
during
you
know
like
at
the
end,
one
of
our
items
is
any
suggestions
for
new
items
on
the
agenda.
Maybe
we
can
on
our
own,
consider,
are
there
any?
Is
there
anything
else
happening
within
the
city
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
from
housing
point
of
view?
In
other
words,
we
should
consider
what
this
the
rest
of
the
commission's
city
council
needs
and
see.
If
we
should
be
preparing
for
that,
when
we
consider
newer
items
on
the
agenda.
A
For
a
time
check,
chair
parish,
I
would
recommend
about
10
more
minutes
on
this
item
so
that
we
we
can
get
to
the
to
the
future
agenda
items
and
the
commission
reports.
We
have
staffing
available
until
about
11
o'clock,
so
I
can
help.
I
can
help
you
with
timing.
Moving
forward
too.
B
D
Hi
I
mean
I
would
like
to
make
an
addition,
then,
to
the
the
comments
about
the
letter
that
you're
going
through,
which
is
you
know,
we're
asking
to
be
involved
in
things.
One
of
the
things
that
is
most
beneficial
to
affordable,
affordable
housing
is
land
policies
and
many
of
our
land
policies
within
the
general
plan
do
not
allow
the
low
market
rate
housing
to
be
billed.
D
Some
of
those
are
height
limits,
some
setbacks,
those
kinds
of
things,
so
I
think
we
want
to
add
that
to
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
would
want
to
be
involved
in.
Thank.
B
You
so
I'm
because
I
want
to
make
sure
to
have
it
correctly.
What
would
you
like
the
it
to
can?
Do
you
want
to
research?
Add
an
item
perhaps
or
that
we
consider
the
policies
of
land
policies.
Is
that
what
you
can.
D
D
B
F
Yeah
just
to
add
to
what
commissioner
cunningham
said:
land
use
policies
are
definitely
part
of
the
gender
plan
creation
process.
So
I
think
you
know
it's.
What
she
brought
out
is
a
very
valid
point.
There
are
things
which
constrain
us
from
building
affordable
housing,
bmr
health,
especially
so
I
think
it's
pretty.
I
would
guess
that
it
is
something
on
which
the
commission
have
a
discussion
and
make
recommendations.
B
B
You
know,
brainstorming
on
this
item
on
how
we
could
be
connected
to
the
rest
of
the
commissions
rest
of
what's
happening
in
the
city,
in
this
case
the
housing
element
and
prepare
to
finish
up
and
and
prepare
the
memorandum
that
we
need
to
come
up
with
so
we'll
table
the
memorandum
for
the
next.
Anybody
else
have
any
comments
before
we
close.
A
E
A
Give
me
one
moment,
so
there
is
a
recommended
action
for
this
item,
which
indicates
we
need
a
vote.
So
if
the
commission
wants
to
make
a
clear
recommended
action,
what
I'm
hearing
is
to
continue
the
item,
but
you
might
want
to
be
really
specific
about
what
you're
looking
for
chair
perish.
It
also
is
a
possibility
for
you
to
submit
a
draft
memo
in
the
next
pocket
to
give
the
commission
a
place
to
to
work
off
of
and
the
public
the
opportunity
to
review.
A
B
Identifying
opportunities,
yes,
I
definitely
want
to
do
that,
because
I
think
this.
The
memorandum
would
make
ourselves
known
in
a
possibly
city
manager
and
city
council
opportunities
for
the
housing
commission
to
contribute
where
yeah,
okay.
B
I
think
I
will
take
that
opportunity
then
I'll,
send
you
a
draft
for
you
to
review
and
and
then
we
can
table
the
rest
of
the
discussion
for
next
meeting.
B
A
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
the
recommended
action
would
be
for
chair
parish
to
draft
a
memo
for
consideration
at
a
future
hearing,
and
then
we
can
coordinate
with
staff
on
dates
is
that
is
that?
Am
I
capturing
that
correctly?
Yes,
okay,
so
if
a
commissioner
wants
to
propose
that
motion,
exactly
how
it
excuse
me
propose
the
recommended
action,
how
you'd
like
it
to
be.
I
can
conduct
a
roll
call.
B
F
Is
is
there
a
way
that
you
can
just
repeat
that
thing
so
that
I
can
just
say
I
propose
that.
B
For
chair
parish
to
prepare
a
draft
for
to
for
the
commissioners
to
consider
preparing
and
sending
the
memorandum
to,
the
city,
council
and
city
manager,
identifying
the
opportunities
for
housing
commission
to
contribute
to
housing,
element
etc.
But
is
it
possible
to
maybe
tweet
it
change
that
a
bit
and
and
say
it
not
just
for
the
housing
element,
but
just
in
general,
because
it
does
say
housing
element,
update
process
such
as
discussing
affordable
housing,
etc,
discussing
panel
joint
meetings,
but
it
kind
of
makes
it
the
way.
B
A
The
item
brought
forth
today
is
specific
to
the
housing
element,
so
I
would
caution
against
that
because
we
didn't
have
public
input,
but
what
I
would
suggest
in
your
motion
is
to
be
clear
that
them
or
excuse
me
in
your
recommended
action,
is
to
be
clear
that
the
the
memo
will
be
for
consideration
at
a
future
housing,
commission,
public
hearing
and
then
and
then
we
when
the
memo
is
prepared,
it
will
be
released
in
the
packet.
That's
the
part
that
we'll
help
you
with,
on
the
back
end.
E
F
Okay,
so
I
I
do
propose
that
if
it
is
possible
to
add
one
housing
element
related
related
relay
discussions,
because
that
includes
general
plan
changes
too.
So
you
know
whatever
land
use
policies
that
commissioner
cunningham
was
talking
about.
That
becomes
a
part
of
the
housing
element
discussion,
so.
E
F
F
Yeah,
I
would
recommend,
if
it's
possible,
kerry,
if
you
could,
I
mean
housing
manager
kerry.
If
you
could.
Actually,
you
know
kind
of
spell
it
out
in
that
will
be
very
helpful
to
all
of
us.
A
Or
sure,
let
me
do
my
best
to
capture
so
the
the
recommended
action
would
be
to
and
we'll
fine-tune
it
on
the
back
end
again.
But
the
best
on
the
fly
is
to
say
that
chair
parish
will
prepare
a
draft
memorandum
to
the
city,
council
and
city
manager,
identifying
opportunities
for
the
housing
commission
to
contribute
to
the
housing
element,
update
process
such
as
discussing
affordable
housing
strategies
and
funding
sources,
and
discussing
planned
and
potential
joint
meetings
with
other
legislative
bodies
and
continue
this
item
to
a
future
housing
commission
meeting.
A
So
it's
capturing
your
current
recommended
action,
putting
putting
a
draft
and
then
the
action
putting
a
draft
in
motion
and
the
action
will
be
for
the
commission
to
come
back
and
review
and
if
that
is
in
the
spirit
of
what
you
wanted
chair,
perish.
F
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay,
propose.
I
propose
a
motion
based
on
how
the
the
the
illustration
of
the
agenda
item
as
as
identified
by
kerry.
E
B
I
I
excellent.
I
heard
all
eyes
the
motion
passes
and
I
think
that's
it.
Let's
see
if
we
have
any
other
items
here,
staffing,
commission
reports,
do
we
have
any
reports
carrie.
A
Sure
so
I
wanted
to
so
now.
Let's
see
I
wanted
to
report
on
making
sure
all
of
you
are
aware
of
the
june
28th
housing
element
joint
workshop.
Our
joint
excuse
me
joint
meeting
that
was
discussed
earlier,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
Please
join
us
at
the
june
28
housing
element
joint
commission
meeting,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
now
that
the
fiscal
year
is
coming
to
a
close,
we
will
be
bringing
the
homeless
jobs
program
to
housing
commission
for
a
report
on
this
year.
A
We
also
are
actively
working
on
the
city
plan
to
end
homelessness
and
the
santa
clara
county,
point-in-time
homeless.
Count
numbers
are
being
released
soon
and
so,
once
those
numbers
come
out,
we
will
be
able
to
incorporate
them
into
the
cupertino
draft
and
then
have
that
closer
to
a
final
draft
and
public
review
and
comment.
So
that's
significant
under
work,
significant
work
underway
this
summer
and
fall,
and
I
think
I
think
for
now
that's
all
and
just
a
reminder
to
report
on
any
attendance
at
the
monthly
mayor's
meeting.
B
Thank
you
thank
you
and
commissioner
tadachari.
F
I
think
I
was
nominated
to
participate,
so
I
participated
in
it
and
I
the
the
the
commissions
like
park
and
rec
teen
library,
information
technology-
and
you
know
all
those
other
commissions
also
participated
highlights-
are
that
the
library
commission
made
a
presentation
in
terms
of
you
know
the
typical
statistics
involved
in
terms
of
how
it's
being
used
as
well
as
the
you
know
that
that
the
library
expansion
is
completed,
and
there
was
some
pictures
shown
of
the
you
know,
new
meeting
facilities
and
stuff
like
that,
and
it
is
very
interesting
because
I
think
just
for
about
25
dollars,
one
can
get
an
excellent
meeting
facility
for
four
hours.
F
It's
it's
very,
it
looks.
It
looks
really
good.
So
that's
one
tidbit.
I
wanted
to
share
that
particular
meeting
yeah.
I
think
it
should
not
be
for
for-profit
use.
It
can
be
for
any
purposes
by
non-profit
or
something
which
you
know
just
like
you.
If
somebody
wants
to
say
a
recipe,
you
know
share
recipes
or
something
like
that.
I
guess
where
is
this?
F
F
B
Sizes-
excuse
me
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
Commissioner
acharya
was
reporting
back
on
the
mayor's
meeting,
so
he's
saying
the
highlight
was
the
from
the
library
and
thank
you,
commissioner
tatachari.
I
think
we've
come
to
the
end
of
our
time.
Is
it
did
you
want
to?
Did
you
finish
your
report,
commissioner?.
F
Yeah
just
one
more
thing,
so
I
did
bring
up
the
issue
of
housing
element
and
future.
So
I'm
very
happy
that
we
made
progress
because
I
discuss
the
work
items
like
the
status
of
the
last
meeting
etcetera
and
then
you
know
I
in
terms
of
housing
element.
I
was
talking
about
issues
for
free
site,
selection,
timeline
cons.
What
else
remains
and
development
disabled
housing
for
developmentally
disabled,
and
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
as
a
way
that
we
can
have.
F
F
Presentation
share
with
with
I
will
send
it
to
she
can
share
it
with
the
other
commissioners.
F
B
You
and
then
next
item
is
whether
or
not
there
are
any
recommendations
for
future
agenda
items.
B
B
A
Thank
you
stay
tuned
for
for
the
packet
for
the
upcoming
joint
meeting,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
your
time
you're
spending
on
this
here
at
the
commission
level
and
then
outside
in
your
personal
time
to
contribute.
Thank
you
all
and
thank
you.