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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - May 19, 2022 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the Tuesday, May 19, 2022 Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting (Part 2 of 2)
A
So
we'll
go
to
item
number
17
on
our
agenda.
That's
under
public
hearings.
This
is
the
consideration
of
the
fiscal
year
22
to
23
fee
schedule,
update
which
was
continued
from
our
meeting
of
this
past
tuesday,
and
I
understand
our
presenter
is
going
to
be
thomas
leong,
but
anyone
like
to
introduce
thomas
or
speak.
I
don't
see
any
other
video
cameras
on
so
thomas.
Take
it
away.
B
B
B
Schedule,
b
or
engineering
fees
is
for
services
related
to
public
works
engineering
such
as
design
and
inspections,
schedule
c
planning
fees
is
for
fees
related
to
community
development
planning
division.
This
includes
current
mid
and
long
term
planning
schedule.
D
building
fees
is
related
to
community
development,
building
division
fees,
including
general
building
construction
plan
check
and
building
code
enforcement.
B
The
city
performs
a
fee
study
approximately
every
seven
years
in
fiscal
year,
2016-17
the
city
conducted
its
most
recent
comprehensive
peace
study
staff
has
submitted
a
budget
proposal
in
the
fiscal
year
23
the
post
budget
for
the
next
fee
study,
and
if
this
proposal
is
approved,
staff
plans
to
develop
a
rfp
and
complete
the
study
in
fiscal
year.
23.
B
The
city
is
currently
negotiating
with
its
foreign
groups,
because
labor
agreements
expire
on
june
30th
2022.
Due
to
the
uncertainty,
the
1
labor
cost
increase
only
accounts
for
step,
increases
and
changes
in
calpers
retirement
rates.
It
does
not
include
any
cost
of
living
adjustments
or
colas
or
any
equity
adjustments.
B
B
On
this
slide,
we
have
a
history
of
changes
in
escalators
and
we
can
see
that
cpi
was
applied
to
schedule.
A
cci
and
labor
cost
increases
to
schedule
b,
cpi
and
labor
cost
increases
stage
c
and
labor
costs
schedule.
D
no
escalator
was
applied
to
schedule
e
as
parts
and
recreation
fees
are
market
driven
in
order
to
be
competitive
with
other
entities
that
offer
competing
services.
B
Now
I'll
discuss
any
new
fees,
also
of
schedule,
a
on
schedule,
a
staff
is
proposing
to
add
a
new
category,
titled
animal
establishment,
women
and
then,
under
this
category
date,
the
posts
and
move
private
kennel,
which
has
a
fee
of
318
dollars,
as
well
as
add
three
new
categories:
pet
shop,
grooming,
business
and
horse
establishment,
which
would
all
have
the
same
rates.
318.
B
D
B
B
B
On
schedule,
e
aux
and
recreation
fees,
city
staff
are
proposing
several
new
fees
at
the
quinlan
community
center
hugston
recreation
is
proposing
the
establishment
of
fees
for
the
craft
room
at
monte,
vista
recreation.
Center
staff
is
proposing
the
addition
of
fees
for
monte
vista
kitchen
and
room
five,
and
the
rates
for
these
fees
are
based
on
fees
for
rooms
of
similar
capacities.
B
At
the
senior
center
staff
is
proposing
to
replace
the
seven
dollar
flex
plots
flex
pass
with
a
drop
in
rate
to
more
accurately
adjust
to
the
varying
cost
classes
and
programs
offered
at
the
senior
center.
This
rate
is
for
members
to
drop
into
specific
fitness
classes
listed
in
the
50
plus
scene
for
outdoor
facilities.
The
field
attendant
fee
is
increasing
from
17
to
18
dollars
per
hour
to
a
line
of
minimum
wage
requirements.
B
B
B
A
Thomas,
let's
go
to
our
members
of
the
public
and
I'll
remind
our
members
of
the
public.
There
are
no
hands
raised
yet
in
zoom,
but
if
you
do
raise
your
hand,
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
if
you're
on
the
phone,
I
don't
think
anyone
is.
But
if
you
are
press
star
nine
on
your
phone
to
raise
your
hand
and
zoom
by
the
time
the
first
person
is
done.
Speaking
you'll
need
to
have
your
hand
raised,
or
you
can
also
email
your
comment
into
our
city
clerk
at
city
clerk
at
cupertino.org.
A
I
don't
see
anybody
with
a
hand
raised
at
this
point
and
so
I'll
bring
this
back
to
our
council.
Are
there
any
questions
of
thomas
or
of
other
staff
from
council
on
on
the
first
go
around
here
to
help
clarify
the
presentation
council
member
willie
has
hand
faced.
E
Yeah
thanks
thomas
for
the
update,
the
one
that
I
would
ask
about,
is
the
cell
tower
adding
antennas
on
existing
poles
great
if
we
have,
if
we
have
not
been
charging
for
planning
staff
time,
446
dollars
now
for
two
hours
of
staff
time
absolutely,
but
does
that
really
cover
our
cost
when
they're,
adding
new
poles
and
new
infrastructure
down
in
rancho
verizon
is
cutting
up
the
streets
and
laying
wires
in
the
streets,
and
then
the
pavement
replacement
and
things
of
that
nature
that
sure
all
that
infrastructure
up
and
down
the
entire
streets
sounds
to
me
like
a
lot
more
than
446
dollars.
B
So
I'll
add
that
the
city
does
have
additional
fees
for
other
types
of
alterations,
so
the
one
that
we
are
proposing
is
alterations
to
an
existing
facility,
but
they
do
have
a
fee
for
freestanding
cell
towers
and
that
is
1225
and
then
for
towers
that
are
attached
to
buildings.
That
would
be
one
thousand
and
four
dollars.
E
How
about
the
infrastructure
previously
chad
had
told
us
that
there's
actually
a
moratorium
on
the
streets
once
they've
been
paid
outside
facilities
are
not
able
to
kind
of
come
in
and
cut
up
our
streets
for
three
years.
E
F
Through
the
mayor,
matt
morley,
director
of
public
works,
I
I
can
help
you
with
with
that
a
little
bit
council
member,
so
the
the
utility
companies
are
required
to
restore
restore
the
roadway
to
the
previous
conditions,
so
they
have
to
pay
back
to
to
new
condition
the
work
that
they're,
where
they're
working,
so
that
we
we
make
sure
to
manage
them
on
that,
and
that
includes
the
full
depth
of
the
of
the
trench
that
they
dig
and
there
are
feats
associated
with
the
with
utility
permits,
and
we
have
an
inspector
to
watch
us
to
make
sure
that
they're
doing
that
adequately,
so
that
is
cost
cost
recovery.
F
E
Seems
pretty
extensive?
Are
you
happy
with
the
fee
schedule
because
that
wasn't
on
the
list?
Are
you
happy
with
the
fees
you
know?
Historically,
a
water
main
break
or
something
you
know
it
was
a
spa
repair.
You
know
the
the
extensive
nature
of
what
they're
doing
is
is
pretty
extreme.
Are
you
happy
with
the
fee
recovery?
I
mean,
you
know
a
a
local
dig
versus
the
entire
street.
He
sure
seems
to
me,
like
you
know,
a
lot
more
oversight
and
inspection.
F
A
Thank
you,
castleman
wooly,
thank
you,
director,
morley,
and
so
I
don't
see
further
hands
raised.
Do
we
have?
Oh,
we
do
actually
so
councilman
are
more
followed
by
vice
michelle.
D
Thank
you
and,
and
thank
you
for
the
the
presentation
here.
I
was
wondering
about
the
the
fees
and
schedule
e
for
recreation
when
I
did
some
comparisons
for
for
room
rentals
for
surrounding
cities,
it
seemed
like
we,
we
are
low
and
was
also
curious
about
our
policy
with
regards
to
a
cupertino
non-profit
rental
rate
versus
a
resident.
So,
for
instance,
if
you
wanted
to
rent-
let's
say
the
cupertino
room
at
quinlan
for
a
non-profit,
a
cupertino
non-profit,
it
is
thirty
dollars,
but
for
a
resident
group
it's
a
hundred
and
sixty
eight
dollars.
D
If
anyone
can
recall
that
of
regarding
why
there's
this
discrepancy
and
then
I'm
not
seeing
the
definition
of
a
non-profit,
I
would
think
it
is
a
501c3,
but
it
is
not
specifying
that
and
when
I
go
look
at
the
lists
of
of
nonprofits,
there
are
multiple
nonprofit
designations,
so
I
would
assume
it
would
follow
the
grant
funding
policy
that
it
would
be
a
501c3,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
specified
and
if
it
is
specified,
I'm
unable
to
locate
that.
G
Sure,
thank
you,
director
parks
and
recreation,
joanne
mcgreeney,
and
I
am
here
with
our
management
analyst
kevin
kuh,
who
can
help
me
out
with
some
of
these
answers
to
these
questions,
for
you,
councilmember
moore,
wanted
to
let
you
know.
Traditionally.
Yes,
we
use
the
503c
as
our
our
point
of
reference
for
nonprofit.
So
if
that
is
not
clear
in
the
fee
schedule
or
in
the
documentation,
we
can
certainly
add
that
information.
That's
my
understanding,
and
traditionally
I
think
that
you
know
we
revisit
the
fee
schedule.
G
G
A
Okay,
thank
you,
director,
mcgreeney
and.
D
Do
we
have
do
we
have
fines
in
this
list?
I
wasn't
seeing
like
some
cities,
I
noticed
they
they'll,
show
the
fees
and
then
they'll
also
have
the
fines
as
well,
and
that
was
something
I
I
it
seemed
like.
I
saw
him
sort
of
scattered
through
a
little
bit
and
maybe
next
year,
when
we
go,
do
our
our
full
review.
It
can
be
kind
of
ordered
that
way,
because
to
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
to
find,
find
those
items,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
them
separated
out.
G
A
G
H
H
So
that's
mainly
fines
like
if
groups
do
stay
past
the
reserve
time
that
we
did
to
find
those
fees
to
charge
them
if
they
do
stay
past
being
an
hour
an
hour
and
so
forth
in
terms
of
other
fines,
like
say,
for
example,
if
there's,
if
a
group
has
user
room
and
something
has
been
broken
extensively
or
something
along
those
lines,
that
is
what
we
utilize
their
security
deposit
for
and
because
there's
no
way
to
fully
estimate
like
the
cost,
for
you
know,
fixing
a
broken
light
to
hold
the
wall,
just
random
examples.
H
We
then
defer
to
public
works,
to
direct
us
or
to
to
provide
an
estimate
for
us
that
we
then
communicate
to
the
renter,
and
then
we
would
deduct
from
their
security
deposits
to
cover
those
costs.
A
Okay,
thanks
kevin
and
councilmember
moyer,
your
hand
is
still
raised,
but
do
you
have
any
follow-ups.
D
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
to
clarify
if,
if
I
were
to
rent
community
hall-
and
it's
and
say
I
had
a
non-profit
group
and
for
thirty
dollars
an
hour,
would
I
would
that
also
include
being
able
to
have
the
the
video
cameras
and
the
screens
going,
and
you
know
trash
pickup
if
we
have
meals
there,
things
of
that
nature
or
or
is
that
an
extra
staff
time
addition
to
the
charge
because
it
for
the
thirty
dollars
for
a
non-profit
to
use
it
if
they
were
to
get
all
those
extra
services
that
could
take?
D
Maybe
someone
to
unlock
the
door,
somebody
to
lock
it
back
up
someone
to
pick
up
all
the
the
trash
and
compostables
and
all
that
afterwards,
and
maybe,
if
I
needed
chairs
and
tables
to
to
be
set
out,
that's
going
to
be
another.
D
You
know
two
people
for
that
and
then,
if
I
need
video
help
and
microphones
and
all
that,
that's
even
more
assistance,
so
I'm
wondering
how
we
have
it
set
it
up,
set
up
right
now,
if
we're,
if
we're
charging
anywhere
near
what
it
actually
costs
or
not.
G
My
understanding
when
we
do
the
fee
schedule
study-
and
I
have
done
this
at
my
previous
city-
is
you
take
all
of
those
overhead
items
into
consideration
when
you're
determining
the
fee,
so
I
don't
believe
that
we
factor
those
things
out
of
the
fee
in
cupertino.
But
again,
we've
been
closed,
mostly
during
covet,
so
I'll
defer
to
staff
about
how
that
rental
actually
works
so
kevin.
If
I'm
missing
anything,
let
me
know.
H
Apologies,
this
is
more
just
for
clarification,
so
some
of
the
fees
that
you
had
mentioned,
like
specifically
if
it
does
involve
a
video.
If
there's
a
request
to
record
a
meeting,
those
fees
are
actually
determined
through
our
communications
through
the
communications
department.
So
they
have
fees
that
they
charge.
That
are
separate.
The
thirty
dollars
that
we
that
we
have
on
our
fee
schedule
that
is
specific
to
having
a
snap
person
to
help
them
set
up
tables
and
shares.
H
We
do
help
them
with
like
rudimentary
audio
video
capabilities
so
like
if
they
need
a
projector
if
they
need
microphones
like
those
aspects
our
staff
covers.
But
if
it's
anything
past
that
recordings
televised
of
those
sorts
that
then
they
would
then
talk
to
communications,
specifically
the
video
department,
and
then
they
would
estimate
feet
or
have
fee
established
fees
based
on
their
costs
four
and
might
be
more
information
than
you
were
asking,
but
for
the
normally
for
the
weekday
fees.
H
So,
as
you
mentioned
thirty
dollars
per
hour,
at
least
the
way
that
I
understand
it,
because
we
we
do
have
a
full-time
staff
person
that
is
assigned
to
that
to
the
room
his
or
their
budget
or
their
expenses
like
to
be
on
site,
are
captured
in
the
staffing
in
the
the
staffing
allocation
of
for
the
room
or
for
yeah
and
and
so
that's,
why,
like
you,
would
see
kind
of
a
bit
of
a
jump
when
it
changes
from
weekdays
to
weekends,
because
then,
when
it
moves
to
the
weekend
fee,
that
is
when
we
would
then
need
to,
but
a
budget
or
ask
for
part-time
staff
to
come
and
help
for
the
general
cleaning
setting
up
helping
them
out
kind
of
being
there
for
the
event
to
provide
any
support.
H
So
that's
kind
of
why
it's
a
bit
of
a
it's
a
leap
from
when
it's
what
we
call
weekday-
or
I
guess
non-prime-
apologies,
I'm
adding
extra
terms.
But
it's
really
just
weekday
fees
to
then
after
hours
and
then
weekends.
A
Okay,
let's,
let's
move
on
to
vice
mayor
chad,
this
time
investment
channel.
I
Hi,
so
a
member
of
the
public
mentioned
to
me
that
santa
clara
parks
do
not
require
rental
fees,
it's
free
for
residents,
I'm
not
entirely
sure.
If
that's
true,
but
I'm
curious
for
our
park
rental
feeders.
Do
we
charge
them
to
cover
our
cost
of
renting
the
facility
out
like
staffing?
And
what
does
the
staff
do
for
park?
Rental.
H
I
believe
we
do
charge
something.
If
I
don't
know
sorry,
my
camera
seems
to
have
turned
up
and.
C
H
H
Okay,
apologies.
We
do
charge
groups
when
they
do
rent
picnic
areas
the
fees
are
are
are
based
on.
I
believe
it's
the
capacity
of
the
groups
so
like.
Let
me
just
bring
that
up
really
quick
like,
for
example,
a
memorial
park,
because
their
capacity
is
about
113
people,
we
charge
them.
We
essentially
are
charging
a
dollar
per
person,
so
to
speak,
these
fees
mainly
cover
like
cleanup
costs
for,
like
after
a
group,
uses
the
space.
I
believe
it
more
covers.
H
The
cost
for
public
works
staff
to
then
go
into
the
site,
take
out
the
trash
clean
up
the
space
and
so
on,
yeah
the
the
that
would
be
what
those
fees
are
for
to
my
understanding,
if
someone
want
from
public
works,
wants
to
correct
me,
please.
A
F
I
I
So
I
have
a
question
regarding
cell
towers,
so
we
have
three
categories
of
locations
forced
down
tower
and
I
think
yeah
we
try
to
like
recover
cost
to
for
this
kind
of
thing,
but
when
it's
when
they
choose
the
category,
that's
located
on
neighborhood
streets
that
when
it
require
more
staffing
and
even
city
council
time,
because
it
complicates
the
issue,
so
can
we
charge
more
if
they
choose
the
locations?
That's
less
favorable,
as
does
requiring
more
staff
and
council
time.
F
Thank
you,
yeah,
that's
what
I'm
a
little
rusty
on
the
cell
towers,
but
I
believe
that
there's
some
restrictions
on
what
we
can
do
with
cell
towers.
We
do
where
we
can
be
cost
recovery.
We
are
cost
recovery,
it's
an
average
cost
recovery.
F
So
when
we
do
the
fee
studies,
we
average
it
across
all
of
the
work
that
we
do
so,
for
instance,
if
we
have
ten
thousand
dollars
in
expenses
over
a
course
of
a
year
and
we
issued
10
permits,
we
would
know
that
it's
about
a
thousand
dollars
a
permit
and
that's
how
we
would
determine
the
fee
structure
so
that
that's
that's
the
structure
of
how
that
would
be
set
up,
and
then
we
would
escalate
that
by
a
cpi
factor
on
an
annual
basis
and
that's
what
you're
seeing
in
front
of
you
tonight.
I
My
understanding
is,
I
think,
of
fcc
sets
a
max
for
the
monthly
fee
awakened
charge,
but
they
did
not
really
set
the
max
like
permit
fee,
because
permit
fee
really
covers
it's
just
that
recovery
of
the
cost
we
spend.
So
my
question
is:
we
do
spend
different
amount
of
staff
time
when
they
choose
different
categories
of
locations.
So
can
we
charge
different
levels
of
permit
fees
based
on
their
location.
F
F
We
would
do
that
through
a
fee
study
and
those
typically
are
done
on
about
a
five-year
increment,
and
so
we,
when
we
do
our
next
fee
study,
we
would
we
would
if,
if
it
was
well
the
council,
we
would
factor
that
in
and
provide
that
data
back.
F
Yeah,
if
we're
doing-
and
I'm
sorry
I'll
have
to
plead
being
new
on
this
one,
but
if
we're
doing
a
fee
study
for
next
year,
then
then
we
can
certainly
account
for
for
the
varying
costs
associated
with
these.
With
these
permits.
I
A
Thanks
vice
mayor,
I
don't
see
any
new
hands
raised
at
this
time.
So
let
me
go
ahead
and
ask
a
question.
So
the
civic
center
charge
of
a
thousand
dollars
a
day
historically,
how
many,
how
many
groups
or
people
have
asked
to
run
out
of
the
civic
center
for
an
event
on
an
annual
basis.
G
Sure
so
I
think
prior
to
covet,
I
don't
know
if
there
were
any,
but
we
have
had
several
inquiries
from
groups
about
wanting
to
use
the
civic
center
for
their
events
or
you
know,
potentially
festivals
or
things
of
that
nature.
A
G
Or
a
festival
of
some
sort
with
tabling
and
something
similar
to
what
earth
day
was
in
the
civic
center
area.
I
would
assume.
A
G
No,
I'm
sorry
I'm!
I
was
mentioning
earth
day
before
when
it
was
pre-covered
in
that
location.
A
Okay,
so
you're
just
talking
about
basically
the
area
with
concrete
between
library
and
community
hall,
and
so
you
know.
A
Okay,
I
have
hands
raised
again
from
council
member
moore
and
vice
mayor
chao,
and
then
you
know
after
this
round
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
for
a
motion
to
continue
discussion.
If
that's
the
pleasure
of
counseling,
so
council,
member
moore.
D
Okay,
I
just
want
to
mention-
and
I
hope
that
there
was
no
no
issue
with
california
cricket
academy
having
earth
day
use
the
use
that
fields.
I
I'm
going
to
assume
that
it
was
all
negotiated.
Well,
everything
was
good,
okay,
excellent,
so
I
I
would
move
that
we
adopt
resolution
number
22-049
approving
fiscal
year,
2022
2023
fee
schedules,
a
b
c
d
and
e
effective
july
18
2022,
with
a
specification
that
nonprofits
means
501c3
and
the
frequency
of
the
fee
study
be
changed
to
five
years
in
the
future.
A
Five
years,
sort
of
every
seven
years,
sometimes
more,
is
that
right,
correct,
okay,
so,
okay,
all
right.
Would
anyone
like
a
second
council
member
moore's
motion
and
I
have
a
hand
from
vice
mayor
ciao?
Would
you
like
to
second
the
motion.
D
I'm
going
to
assume
that.
That's
that
I
don't
need
to
do
that
as
a
motion
that,
when
this
comes
to
us,
we'll
it'll,
it
will
have
some
feedback
as
well.
Is
that
is
that
correct?
I
see
thomas
yeah
and
joanne.
D
So
yes,
I'm
great
with
that
with
the
amendment
to
the
main
motion.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
councilmember
moore
and
vice
mayor
ciao.
I
assume
that
you
accept
your
own
amendment
as
the
second
order
of
the
motion.
A
Okay,
why
don't
you
ask
your
questions
and
then
we'll
try
to
call
a
question
and
take
a
vote.
I
So,
with
the
new
city-
civic
center
plaza,
I
I'm
assuming
that's
only
for
one
day
event
that
really
use
the
entire
plaza.
Because
often
we
have
a
small
group
of
people
who
have
like
one
table
at
the
plaza
like
during
weekend,
so
those
they
don't
need
to
reserve
right
because
library,
it
has
traditionally
been
a
public
forum
area.
That's
important
for
our
community.
G
So
that
is
not
factored
in
as
a
location
for
that
purpose
and
I'm
sure
we
could
look
into
that.
But
I
would
say
that
since
that
is
the
only
field
available
for
qriket
use
in
the
city,
we
would
want
to
take
that
into
consideration
because
it
is
utilized
on
on
a
daily
basis,
basically
monday
through
saturday
monday
through
saturday,
and
you
know
one
sunday
a
month.
So
at
this
point,
so
it's
not
a
lot
of
it's
not
available.
I
For
festival
use
right,
okay,
that's
good
to
know,
and
then
I
think
we,
our
farmer's
market,
do
use
a
quick
side
parking
lot,
which
is
great.
However,
I
think
we
do
need
to
capture
how
much
we
are
subsidizing
the
farmers
market,
and
although
I
assume
we
don't
have
that
as
a
category
to
rent
out,
but
could
should
we
in
some
way
capture
how
much
that's
costing
the
city?
I
I
A
Good
point:
okay,
so
I
don't
see
any
takers
on
that.
So
vice
mayor,
that's
I'll,
put
that
in
the
category
of
using
the
wind.
So
I'm
going
to
go
to
councilmember!
Wait
at
this
point.
Vice
mayor
councilman,.
J
I
have
one
question,
so
I'm
not
opposing
to
changing
the
fee
schedule
to
from
seven
years
to
five
years.
I
just
want
to
know
what
is
the
cost
in
associating
with
doing
a
fee
schedule,
study
and
presented
just
a
question
of
how
much
does
it
cost
to
do
it.
A
Good
question:
thanks:
councilman
white
thomas,
you
know
what
the
budget
is
for
a
fee
station.
Yes,
now.
J
A
J
A
I
A
Okay,
so
thomas.
I
I
Okay,
and
so
if
we
account,
for
let's
say
inflation
of
three
percent
per
year-
I'm
not
I'm.
My
math
is
not
good.
I
B
I
A
Yeah,
okay
city
attorney
johnson,
you
have
your
androids
at
this
time.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
comment.
A
C
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
there
are
also
legal
obligations
associated
with
making
sure
that
you
know
that
the
fees
accurately
reflect
and
don't
exceed
the
cost
of
providing
services
and
so,
to
the
extent
you're.
You
know,
looking
at
the
benefit
versus
cost
of
more
frequent
fee
schedule
updates
that's
another
thing
to
take
into
account.
D
Yes,
I
I
think
the
the
city
attorney
is
is,
is
I'm
assuming
is
okay
with
the
change
of
the
frequency
to
five
years,
because
it'll
help
keep
us
in
alignment
with
the
the
actuals
and
so
that
we
we
don't
accidentally
go
over
charge
too
much
force
services
is
that
is
that
what
I'm?
What
I'm
to
understand,
yeah.
C
I
I
think
I
think
you
know
all
else
being
equal.
Just
you
know,
having
you
know
an
up-to-date
fee
schedule
reduces
you
know
any
liability
risk
for
excessive
fees
under
prop
26
or
prep
to
18.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
You
know,
I
remember
just
from
from
soccer
the
the
field
fees
just
from
danzi's
soccer
league
were
around
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year,
just
just
for
that.
One
organization-
and
you
know
I
like
to
I
like
to
look
at
the
chico
city
budget
policies
because
they
have
everything
in
one
place,
but
when,
when
we-
and
they
do
mention
fees,
we'll
comply
with
all
applicable
laws,
but
they
have
four
different
categories
of
fees.
D
So
when
we
do
bring
this
back
and
have
a
discussion
that
we'll
be
talking
about
fees,
that
would
have
a
hundred
percent
cost
recovery
and
then
fees
that
that
may
be
below
100
and
then
we'll
have
a
discussion
about
the
policies
for
why
we
don't
want
to
charge
full
amounts
for
certain
things
and
then
make
make
some
adjustments
and-
and
I
think
that,
as
each
council
approaches
this,
they
might
have
some
different
opinions
about
about
the
whole
fee
structure
and
and
things
will
change
as
as
the
councils
move
ahead
in
the
future.
A
B
B
B
Earlier
I
was
only
looking
at
the
general
fund.
B
A
Well,
I
think
you've
had
a
lot
of
comments,
but
what
what
do
you
have
as
a?
I
was.
I
Trying
to
make
sense
whether
75
000
for
comprehensive
study
makes
sense
so
with
if
or
the
fees
were,
seven
hundred
fifty
thousand
per
year-
that's
ten
percent,
but
now
it's
ten
times
more.
So
that's
one
percent.
So
this
the
the
cost
of
doing
a
comprehensive
feast
schedule
study
is
one
percent
of
our
annual
fee.
Then
five
year
makes
sense.
A
Okay,
great
for
agreement,
thomas,
do
you
want
to
say
something
or
can
we
call
a
vote
here?
Sorry,
all
right,
great!
Let's
go
ahead
and
do
that,
madam
city
clerk.
Could
you
please
conduct
a
roll
call
now.
A
A
L
Thank
you,
council
members,
tina
kapoor
economic
development
manager
and
we're
here
today
to
discuss
the
proposed
ordinance
for
the
economic
development
committee.
L
L
So
as
background
the
committee
has
met
informally
for
at
least
over
two
decades
is
our
understanding
and,
as
part
of
the
city
work
program.
Council
requested
that
the
new
code
is
amended
to
codify
this
committee.
L
L
And
so
similar
to
the
role
of
the
committee
in
the
past,
the
proposed
purpose
for
the
new
codified
committee
is
to
provide
expertise
and
guidance
on
policy
related
to
economic
development,
also
actively
promote
cupertino
as
a
location
of
choice
for
current
and
prospective
businesses,
and
so
this
purp,
this
purpose
recommended
purpose
can
be
carried
out
in
three
ways.
One
would
be
to
make
recommendations
on
a
broad
range
of
strategic
matters
that
are
broadly
applicable
to
cities
economic
development
goals.
L
So
taking
into
account
council's
direction
on
the
composition
of
this
committee,
you'll
notice
that
the
proposed
membership
includes
two
city
council
members
and
three
business
representatives
again
from
the
selected
industry
sectors.
So
the
committee
will
have
five
members,
as
shown
here.
L
And
so
with
that,
our
recommendation
today
is
that
council
conducts
the
first
reading
of
this
ordinance
for
the
codified
economic
development
committee
and
find
that
the
proposed
actions
are
exempt
from
cq.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
present
and
we're
here.
If
you
have
any
questions.
A
If
any
member
of
the
public
has
a
comment
on
this,
please
raise
your
hand
on
zoom
or,
if
you're,
on
the
phone
and
calling
in
on
zoom
star
nine
on
your
phone
is
how
to
race
the
hand
you'll
have
three
minutes
and
if
anyone
is
watching
this
on
youtube
or
city
channel
you'll
need
to
email.
Your
comment
to
city
clerk,
all
one
word
at
cupepino.org.
A
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
at
this
time
and
so
with
for
the
moment,
still
not
hands
raised,
we'll
go
back
to
city
council.
A
I
I'll
comment
later
I
have
okay
I'll
come
in
first,
I
I
don't
think
we
should.
I
think
the
purpose
of
economic
development
committee
is
not
only
to
develop,
develop
our
current
business,
but
it
should
be
future
looking
what
new
business
we
should
bring
into
cupertino.
I
So
I
don't
want
us
to
hard
code
what
industry
sector
there
should
be-
and
I
think
we
could
say
with
priorities
in
retail,
restaurant
technology
and
hospitality,
but
that's
not
hard
coded
so
that
the
council
has
flexibility
if
a
good
candidate
that
could
bring
us
future
opportunity
outside
of
what
we
currently
have
we
can
still
appoint.
I
have
some
edits
made
to
the
ordinance
that
I
would
be
ready
to
make
a
motion
when
it's
a
time.
Thank
you.
L
D
You
I
I
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
because
we
have
it's
a
it's
a
committee
of
five
and
it
would
have
two
city
council
members.
D
I'd
almost
be
inclined
to
suggest
that
we
would
have
the
planning
commission
a
planning,
commissioner,
it
could
be
the
planning
commission,
chair
and
perhaps
someone
from
I
would
even
suggest
sustainability
perhaps,
but
there
could
be
another
committee,
member
or
yeah
another
committee,
member
from
from
the
city
and
moving
this
to
a
a
seven
person
committee
with
a
majority
coming
from
from
the
city,
I'm
just
just
a
little
concerned
about
how
the
voting
would
go.
D
I
don't
know
if
you
were
on
the
erc
today,
but
we
had
a
3-2
vote
with
a
because
we're
we're
a
mix
between
between
staff
and
and
planning
commission,
chair
and
myself.
So
when
you
have
when
you
do
set
up
a
group
of
of
five
and
you
have
three
members
from
the
business
community
and
you're
voting
on,
you
know
where,
where
what
direction
or
resources
could
be
spent,
I
it
you
could
have
some.
D
Some
conflicts
could
out
voting
on
certain
things
so,
and
it's
with
and
you
might
be,
making
recommendations
on
how
things
will
be
money
will
be
spent.
I
should
say
so.
I
have
some
concern
about.
I
don't
know
if
any
other
other
council
members
have
have
any
matching
concerns
with
regards
to
that,
but
that
that's
my
only
my
only
thought
on
it
would
be
to
expand,
expand
the
group.
D
I
thought
that
the
wording
was
very
nicely
chosen
for
the
what
the
the
one
two
and
three
items
that
the
committee
would
involve
itself
in.
I
thought
that
was
well
well-written,
broadly
written,
and
I
and
I
I
think
it's
great-
that
this
is
finally
getting
codified.
I'm
really
glad
to
see
it.
A
Great
thanks,
councilmember
moore
and
just
a
clarification
to
staff,
either
tina
or
chris.
I
guess
this
would
be
a
question
for
you
guys.
So
how
are
the
committee
members
other
than
the
council
members
selected
or
for
that
matter?
How
are
the
council
members?
I?
I
assume
that
the
council
member
committee
members
will
be
part
of
committee
assignments
at
the
end
of
the
year
or
whenever
it
happens,
to
be.
L
Tina,
I
was
just
going
to
say
chris
that
the
composition-
I
can
talk
about
the
composition
itself,
but
maybe
chris
you
can
shed
some
light
on
how
they're
appointed,
but
my
understanding
it
understanding
is
that
all
committee
members
are
appointed
by
council,
but
my
thoughts
on
the
composition
to
council
remember
moore's
point.
L
We
also
think
having
seven
would
offer
a
richer
dialogue.
There
is
definitely
a
diverse
perspective
going
on.
You
know
one
thought
and
that
will
also
address
vice
mayor
chao's
concern.
One
thought
is
maybe
getting
someone
from
the
commercial
real
estate
world
that
could
represent
different
kinds
of
sectors
and
businesses
that
that's
one
option
as
well.
L
A
Okay,
thanks
tina
and
yeah,
you
answer
the
question
with
regard
to
selection
as
well
pleasure
console.
C
Just
to
clarify
that
the
ordinance
does
provide
that
the
appointment
of
of
committee
members
is
governed
by
the
resolution
govern
governing
the
appointment
of
other
commissions
and
committees.
So
it's
the
same
process.
The
council
uses
for
other
committees
and
commissions.
A
J
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
Actually,
I
was
gonna
follow
vice
mayor's
thoughts,
trend
and
also,
I
do
think
five
is
a
little
bit
not
enough.
I
I
remember
when
we
did
this
study,
we
have
other.
We
have
examples
from
other
city.
How
many
you
know
on
is
in
the
economic
development
committee
members
if
they
do
have
one.
J
I
remember
the
members
more
like
seven
to
nine
and
I
I
do
like
the
idea
that
we
need
to
look
forward,
so
we
need
to
have
someone
who
has
an
expertise
of
economic
development,
maybe
outside
of
cupertino,
because
we're
part
of
the
silicon
valley,
so
it's
going
to
suggest
one
of
the
members
could
be
outside
of
us
could
be-
maybe
it's
not
our
own
chamber,
but
the
silicon
valley
chamber
in
the
in
a
greater
silicon
valley
that
has
more
outlook
in
what
other
people
do
that,
just
a
thought
that
we
could
add
a
position
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
in
the
cupboardino
city
as
more
outlook,
more
future
looking
or
what
other
regions
are
doing.
J
The
second
thought
is
we're
looking
at
stakeholders-
and
I
do
think
our
our
school
district.
Three
of
them
could,
between
union
school
district,
female
union,
high
school
district
and
diesel
college
has,
you
know
good
investment
into
the
community,
including
economic
development.
Maybe
it
could
be
a
one
representative
from
the
three
districts
they
can.
It
does
not
three
representative,
but
one
represented
education
field
would
be
a
good
one,
that's
already
seven.
So
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
J
I
wouldn't
think
we
want
that's
just
my
personal
view,
a
planning
commission
or
chair
to
be
part
of
because
they
have
a
commission
position
already
and
they
they
could.
You
know,
always
come
and
express
their
experiences
that
we
need
more
different
commissioners
in
this
committee
members
in
this
group.
So
I
would
follow
through
the
seven
and
then
add,
maybe
one
more
for
outlook
outside
of
cupola
have
more
expertise
and
one
for
former
education
field.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
councilmember
away
and
I
guess
councilman
willie
did
you
have
any
comments
on
this
before
we
return
back
to
vice
mention.
E
Well,
I
think
the
the
items
brought
up
by
the
council
pretty
much
cover
it.
I
I
also
think
seven
would
be
more
preferred,
but
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
You
know
I
will
say
that
staff
did
a
a
a
good
job
in
and
kind
of
looking
at
the
landscape
of
these
types
of
committees.
You
know
locally,
and
so
I
have
numbers
of
eleven
five,
four
nine
seven
six
I
mean
so
so.
Seven
does
kind
of
seem
to
hit
about
a
median
spot
in
terms
of
you
know.
Who
would
how
many
people
would
be
on
the
economic
development
committee
and
kind
of
have
us
in
keeping
with
the
the
general
numbers
of
the
area
for
the
identity?
A
You
know,
I
think
councilman
moore
mentioned
the
planning.
Commissioner,
I
forget
who
the
maybe
a
sustainability,
commissioner,
I
think
she
said,
and
then
council
member
way
was
talking
about
someone
from
the
education
sector
and
and
tina
mentioned
real
estate
yeah.
I
I
guess
that's
a
few
to
choose
from
given
the
the
makeup,
but
let's
let's
hear
from
vice
mayor
chow
and
hopefully
we
can
get
a
motion
on
the
table
for
further
discussion
and
hopefully
a
vote
vice
mayor.
I
Fifth,
I
think,
and
in
that
virgin
the
staff
recommendation
was
seven
members,
so
I
do
have
a
virgin
where
seven
members
I
edited,
based
on
the
april
version
of
the
ordinance
and
my
proposal
at
that
time-
was
two
council
members,
three
cupertino
business
representatives
and
two
cupertino
resident
representatives
with
business
background,
and
so
that's
one
possibility.
I
I
But
if
we
are
going
with
two
cupertino
resident
representatives,
we
can
specify
that
they
have
previously
or
currently
own
a
business.
The
business
doesn't
have
to
be
in
cupertino,
but
then
they
are
cupertino
resident
or
they
have
experience
with
business
development
and
then
there's
three
cupertino
business
representative
could
say.
We
can
say
that
we
prioritize
in
those
three
areas
that
we
would
like
to
focus
on.
So
I
think
yeah
that
that
would
be
my
thought
yeah.
I
I
I
bet
I
could
share
so
this
is
my
virgin,
my
edit
from
the
last
last
virgin,
where
a
two-count
city,
two
council,
member,
two
business
and
two
resident,
and
this
I
edited
that
to
about
the
qualification
for
these
two
groups-
and
this
is
a
virgin
I
have
based
on
today's
agenda
ordinance.
That's
five
members!
If
you
give
me
some
time,
I
can
edit
this
to
combine
those
two.
If
that's
what
the
council
members
would
like
to
see,
then,
but
yeah.
A
Okay,
let's,
let's
okay,
let's
go
to
chris
and
chris,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
these
comments?
Yeah.
C
A
Yeah,
let's
do
that.
I
mean
it's
not
a
critically
necessary
that
we
ask
first
reading
tonight.
A
Well,
I
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
how
many
people
we
want
and
who
we
want
on
their
basement,
okay,
and
we
just
give
staff
instruction
to
come
back
with
proposed
ordinance
to
that
effect.
So
so,
council,
member
more,
I
you
know-
and
I
will
kind
of
you
know-
kind
of
call
out
again
the
the
people
that
I've
heard
from
the
suggestions
council
member
way
suggested.
A
An
educational
representative,
councilmember
moore,
suggested
a
planning
commissioner
sustainability.
Commissioner,
vice
mayor,
you
were
suggesting
particular
parameters
as
to
how
businesses
or
the
business
representatives
were
connected
to
the
community,
and
then
I
think
tina
mentioned
to
real
estate
or
realtor
interest,
and
I
think
vice
mayor.
You
also
mentioned
a
member
of
tick
as
opposed
to
a
member
of
the
sustainability.
So
that's
you
know
that's
at
least
nine
or
ten.
So
so
I
think
we
would
just
need
to
win
on
down
to
our
representatives
would
be
chris.
A
You
have
your
hand
up
again
or
did
that
just
come
from
last
time.
A
Know
it's.
I
was
just
going
back
and
forth
between
them
all
right,
councilmember,
moore,
your
your
hand
is
up.
Do
you
have
thoughts
on
yes,
discussion.
D
D
Well,
I
might
bring
forward
emotion,
so
I
I'm
kind
of
thinking
the
nine
is
is
an
interesting
total.
So,
looking
at
two
council
members,
the
technology
sector
representative,
the
retail
small
business
representative,
hospitality
tourism
sector-
is
exactly
as
it
has
in
the
this.
The
staff
report,
I'm
wondering
if
having
tick
and
sustainability,
might
be
a
good
idea.
D
D
Lastly,
I
like
the
idea
for
the
real
estate
and
education
sectors
to
to
be
covered
as
well.
So
that
would
be
two
council,
the
tick,
the
three
in
the
the
three
business
sectors,
real
estate
and
education,
but
then
we're
up
to
nine,
but
that
might
actually
work
out
if
people
can't
make
the
meetings
that
you
still
are
have
have
quorum
present
and
you
still
have
a
lively
discussion.
Even
if
you
have
just
a
meeting
of
five,
you
still
have
a
good
good-sized
group.
D
If
you
only
have
five
as
as
we're
noting
it,
you
could
have
a
lot
of
cancellations
or
conflicts
on
schedule,
because
they're
business
people
they
might
not
be
able
to
make
all
these
meetings.
So
those
are
my
thoughts
if
you,
if
you
want
want
me
to
make
a
motion
or
just
if
you
collectively
want
to
have
staff,
come
back
with
this
edited
list.
If
the
the
council
is
amenable
to
it,
so
we
could
do
that.
A
You
know,
I,
I
think
that's
actually
pretty
good
direction,
and
so
let's
go
ahead
and
try
to
put
that
on
so
not
to
not
not
to
call
your
motion
but,
but
I
think
to
reiterate:
you're
looking
for
a
modified
ordinance
that
has
two
council
attack,
wrap
a
retail,
wrap
hospitality,
rep,
someone
from
the
tick
commission,
someone
from
the
sustainability
commission,
representative
of
real
estate
and
a
representative
of
education.
A
So
that's
nine
and
you
like
to
make
the
motion
to
direct
staff
to
come
back
with
modified
ordinance
to
that
effect.
Is
that
is
that
a
reasonable
reiteration
of
your
emotion,
councilman.
D
Absolutely
yes,.
A
Okay,
so
I
guess
we're
on
a
discussion
this
point
vice
mayor
ciao,
do
you
have
a
discussion
point
or
perhaps
a
friendly
amendment
or
something.
I
I
So
this
is
what
I'd
like
to
see
on
the
membership
two
council
members
to
commissions
on
from
sustainability
and
tick.
So
that's
four
members
and
then,
if
we
are,
if
we
are
doing
nine,
then
I'd
like
to
see
two
cupertino
residents
with
business
representatives.
I
That
have
experienced
either
own
or
previously
on
their
business
and
three
representatives
of
cupertino
businesses.
I
don't
want
to
specify
particular
category
for
each
position,
but
we
can
put
priorities
in
this
three
area
on
because
I
don't
think
it
makes
sense
to
hard
code.
We
have
to
have
one
from
hospitality.
I
We
have
to
have
one
from
this
or
that-
and
I
I
don't
remember
what
this
comes
from
remorse
emotion.
Right
now.
Does
that
include
the
education?
I
don't.
I
I
don't
think
we
have.
We
should
have
a
representative
from
education
because
they
are
an
important
member
of
our
community,
but
it's
not
suitable
for
economical
development.
I
think,
but
it
doesn't
prevent
them
to
fit
into
one
of
these
categories
if
they're,
if
they
apply
on
the,
but
not
all
economic
economic
decision
has
to
do
with
education
and
they
can
definitely
per
they
are
an
important
member.
We
should
definitely
seek
out
their
input
on
issues
related
to
education.
I
And
chamber
is
important,
but
I
think
also
that
they
are
advocacy
group
and
when
there
are
issues
that's
related
to
chamber,
of
course,
we
can
engage
them,
invite
them
to
provide
inputs,
unlike
all
the
other
organizations
and
think
could
be
real
estate
developer.
Some
issues
are
related
to
them.
Some
issues
are
not
so
when
issues
are
related
to
real
estate,
definitely
we
should
reach
out
to
them,
but
not
all
economic
development
issues
are
related
to
real
estate
development.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
I
I
appreciate
that
set
of
comments
vice
versa,
so
there
there's
the
motion
the
substitute
motion
on
the
table
by
vice
mayor
ciao.
Is
there
a
second
for
that
substitute
motion
before
we
entertain
some
deliberation
on
it.
I
So
one
more
point:
my
concern
was
one
person
representing
a
specific
industry
sector.
That
person
would
become
an
advocate
for
that
one
particular
sector
rather
than
representing
the
interest
of
cupertino.
We
want
input
from
specific
sectors.
Yes,
but
if
they
are
a
member
or
voting
member
of
the
committee
and
they
represent
one
sector,
are
they
representing
only
the
interest
of
that
sector?
I
Then
perhaps
they
are
not
looking
out
for
the
best
interest
of
cupertino,
so
they
even
if
with
priority
in
those
three
industries,
they
should
still
know
that
they
represent
looking
out
for
the
best
interest
of
creating
or
not
only
their
own
specific
sector.
They
are
appointed
to
so
that's
why
I'm
concerned
with
locking
a
person
into
an
industry.
A
J
J
Okay,
so
my
question
is:
if
we
don't
have
representatives
from
different
sectors,
we
have
one
from
two
two
from
one
field,
then
that's
even
an
even
field.
So
I
think
when
we
appoint
our
commission
committee
members,
we
actually
put
that
question
out.
You
bring
your
expertise
on
your
fields,
but
your
outlooks
for
the
cupertino
economics,
not
just
your
field,
so
I
I
think
that
could
be
a
criteria,
so
I
I
would
think
specify
one
each
would
have
more
representation,
but
whoever
will
pick
needs
to
have
an
open
mind.
A
Well,
thank
you
councilman
way.
You
know
we're
at
the
original
motion.
That's
on
the
table.
The
substitute
motion
doesn't
have
a
seconder,
and
so
you
know
I
will
make
some
comments
on
the
motion
on
the
table.
A
I
think
it
will
be
there'll,
be
work
to
find
somebody
from
each
of
those
fields
and
when
I
look
at
our
commissions
over
time
that
have
specified
people
that
we
have
to
put
in
there,
it
is
an
added
dimension
that
could
you
know,
sort
of
limit
your
ability
to
fill
the
positions
and
then,
when
you
need
to
replace
them,
they
need
to
be
specific,
but
I'm
willing
to
do
that
work.
You
know
I.
I
think
that
this
is
a
good.
This
is
a
good
diversity.
A
It's
a
good
mix
of
entities.
I
I
hear
what
vice
mayor
chow's
saying
with
regard
to
you
know
specific
industries,
and
you
know
I
I
think
education
is
an
interesting
question.
A
It's
it's
a
very
interesting
question,
and
especially
in
our
community,
but
I
think
where
I
cut
on
it
over
time
is
that
I
think
it's
actually
a
fairly
significant
part
of
the
economic
drivers
of
our
of
our
city,
but
where
I'm
a
little
bit,
you
know
where
I
want
to
be
really
careful
is
that
it
doesn't
turn
into
some
kind
of
a
mechanism,
for
you
know
trying
to
push
like
bond
measures,
or
you
know,
parcel
taxes
or
something
like
that.
That's
we
need.
E
A
Particularly
careful
about
that
and
what
else
I
I
would
say
that
I
I
really
like
the
idea
of
vice
mayor
chaos,
pointing
out
you
know
the
cupertino
resident.
You
know
environment
and
let
me
ask
our
our
our
city
attorney.
So,
if
you're,
if
we're
tying
this
to
our
municipal
code
as
to
other
appointees,
is
the
default
that
they
have
to
be
cupertino
residents
to
begin
with.
C
C
You
know
if
it's
not
specified,
then
I
think
you'd
generally
be
able
to
appoint
non-residents.
I
mean
in
this
you
know,
for
example,
owners
of
a
cupertino
business.
A
Okay,
see,
I
thought
I
thought
it
was
the
opposite.
I
thought
that
if
it's
not
specified,
they
do
need
to
be
a
resident,
but
I'm
not
I'm
not
certain
on
that,
because
I
I
know
that,
and
maybe
the
city
clerk
is
is
the
best
first
answer.
So
when
there
is
a
specified
spot
for
does
not
need
to
be
a
cupertino
resident.
A
I
think
I
think
our
audit
committee
has
someone
like
that
is
that
right,
or
one
of
the
committees
has
or
commissions
possibly
has
has
maybe
the
housing
commission.
Yes,.
K
K
Sustainability,
commission,
the
I
believe,
fine
arts,
fine.
K
So
well,
fine
arts
might
be
a
non-resident
yes
and
housing.
Yes,
housing.
A
Okay,
but
but
chris
was
saying
that
it
seems
to
be
kind
of
in
the
code
for
each
particular.
You
know
advisory
group,
so
I
think.
K
So,
for
instance,
sustainability,
it's
codified
that
one
from
the
education
sector
and
one
is
a
business
representative
and
the
housing
I
believe
we
removed.
One
of
them
was
a
business
member.
But
yes,
it's
specified
it's
outlined
in
the
code.
C
E
C
A
C
L
Mayor
paul,
if
I
may,
I
was
just
going
to
say
in
the
draft
ordinance
that
we
submitted.
We
did
have
include
language,
that
the
members
shall
be
cupertino
residents
or
own
a
business
or
be
currently
employed
at
a
business
or
organization
within
the
city
of
cupertino.
A
Right
I
mean
it's
pretty
expensive
right
I
mean
it
would
seem
like
you.
Wouldn't
I
mean
if
there
was
like
literally
no
connection
to
our
geography
from
a
business
perspective,
then
why
would
you
appoint
that
person
too?
I
mean,
maybe
they
have
like
really
great
expertise
in
you
know
retailers
but
yeah.
So
so
vice
mayor
you,
you
have
a
comment
at
this
time.
I
A
So
so
the
motion
is
to
direct
staff
to
go
back
and
modify
the
the
the
draft
ordinance
to
include
appointees,
two
of
which
will
be
from
council
one
from
the
tech
sector,
one
from
retail
one
from
hospitality,
one
from
the
tick
commission,
one
from
the
sustainability
commission,
one
from
the
real
estate
sector
and
one
from
education.
A
So
beyond
that,
we
haven't
really
specified
whether
each
of
you
know
these
representatives
need
to
be
residents,
for
instance,
and.
C
Yeah
so
without
mayor
celina,
if
I
may,
without
without
further
direction
from
council,
we
will.
You
know
assume
that
the
the
language
and
the
current
ordinance,
specifying
you
know
residency
or
some
association
with
a
business
in
cupertino
is,
is
fine.
We
might
have
to
tweak
that
language
somewhat
just
for
the
if
an
educ,
if
the
education
sector
is
included
just
to
make
sure
that
it
makes
sense,
but
but
that
would
that
you
know
without
further
direction
from
council.
That's
the
approach
we
would
take.
A
I
A
I
A
Okay
thanks
vice
mayor
ciao,
let's
go
on
councilmember
moore.
You
had
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
make
a
comment
or.
D
No,
I
comment
on
the
education
part
and-
and
I
just
wanted
to
keep
this
fairly
fairly
open-ended
and
and
when,
when
we
get
the
applicants,
I
think
I
think
we'll
probably
have
some
deliberative
discussion
on
it,
but
I
was
thinking
more
broadly
that
not
not
just
individuals
that
would
come
from
the
different
school
districts,
but
you
could
potentially
have
someone
from
a
montessori
school
or
a
language
school,
even
music
or
art
schools,
depending
on
you
know,
on
the
year
we
might
want
to
hear
have
some
different
voices,
so
it
wasn't,
wouldn't
always
be
someone
from
a
school
district,
but
there's
there's
so
many
different
aspects
to
education
that
I
think
it
could
be
really
actually
quite
quite
enlightening
and
and
have
some
really
interesting
discussions
there
and
same
with
real
estate,
there's
so
many
aspects
to
to
the
real
estate
industry
that
we
could
really
have
some
interesting
economic
diversity
and
discussions.
D
A
D
A
Just
just
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
our
typical
commission
is
five
and
those
are
four-year
terms,
and
you
know
you
know
the
interview
schedule
so
for
having
a
commission
of
nine
they're,
all
gonna,
shortening
the
four-year
term.
That's
just
that
many
more
interviews.
D
And
they're
all
going
to
be
starting
at
the
same
time.
Well,
I
guess
we're
gonna
have
to
choose,
choose
wisely
and
carefully,
and-
and
I
would
consider
making-
I
don't
know
if
there's
some.
A
Creative
way,
to
begin
with,
I
mean
so
have
five,
maybe
five
two
year
terms
and
four
four-year
trends.
D
That
sounds
really
smart.
I
think
that's
a
good
idea,
so
perhaps
that
could
be
part
of
the
the
motion
that
of
rotation
be
be
worked
in,
because
we
saw
this
issue
with
the
having
to
get
creative
with
the
teen
commission,
yeah
yeah.
So.
A
D
A
So
if
you'll
accept
that
as
a
friendly
and
how
about
the
notion
of
a
resident
majority,
did
you
want
to
instruct
staff
to
try
to
describe
that
as
part
of
the
requirement
requirement,
as
noted
by
vice
mayor
ciao,
as
a
concern.
D
D
Maybe
it
was
a
tick
commissioner,
could
possibly
not
be
a
cupertino
resident
so
for
those
particular
positions,
I
I'm
I'm
looking
for
for
what
they
know
their
contribution.
A
So
staggered
terms
five
for
two
years
initially
and
four
for
four
years
so
councilmember
way,
I
believe
you
seconded
it
is
that
right.
J
A
Okay,
so
thank
you
for
the
clarification
of
that,
and
so
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
part
of
the
motion
itself.
So
tina
you,
you
have
your
hand
raised
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
vice
versa.
L
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
just
wanted
to.
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
some
of
the
conversation
here
and
I
agree
with
council
member
moore.
You
know
the
residency
requirement
could
limit
us.
I'm
thinking
this
specifically.
L
If
it's
a
commercial
broker,
it
may
be
better
for
us
to
look
regionally
in
that
sense,
one
we
will
get
cupertino
on
their
radar
right,
so
they're
looking
at
and
working
with
new
businesses.
So
we
definitely
want
that
perspective
and
then,
in
terms
of
education,
I
think
having
an
education
representative
would
be
great
if
we
can
get
de
anza
callers.
That
would
be
wonderful
because
you
know,
as
you
know,
most
businesses
are
looking
for
workforce
opportunities
and
we
could.
We
could
definitely
use
that.
So
thank
you.
A
Yeah
no
and
there
are
definitely
workforce
connections
in
dan's
offerings.
Vice
mayor
ciao,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
I
I
I
don't
know
so
yeah,
so
I
still
don't
feel
comfortable
with
identifying
specific.
A
I
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
on
to
councilmember
way.
Vice
mayor
councilman
wayne.
J
Thank
you
mayor.
I
want
to
address
vice
mayor's
concern
about
residency.
This
is
economic
development.
I
really
do
think
the
the
people
we
choose
to
be
on
the
committee
should
have
that
economic
expertise,
whether
they
live
in
cupertino
or
not,
and
then
they
will
bring
that
vitality
to
cupertino.
So
I'm
not
that
concerned
about
whether
they
live
in
putin
or
not
more
than
their
expertise,
but
I
think
the
broader
definition
is
either
they
live
work
or
what
I'm
sorry?
What
was
the
other?
J
A
D
No,
I
was
just
being
polite,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
tech
means
also
biotech
that
would
be
included
in
there
with
with
that
category,
because
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
interesting
if
we
could
attract
a
more
biotech
to
to
the
city.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
a
good
thing.
Okay,
that's
it
thanks.
I
I
am
still
concerned
to
can,
can
I
make
a
friendly
amendment
to
have
to
so
that
we
have?
It
says
two
council
members
at
least
three
should
be
cooperating.
No
residents,
because
we
have
seen
that
economical
development
committee
in
the
past
did
not
really
look
out
for
cupertino's
interest.
They
all
have
their
business
interest
to
push
and
then
they
actually
were
going
in
in
a
totally
different
direction
than
what
residents
would
like
to
see.
I
A
I
I
don't
I
I
think
you
just
reduce
your
chances
of
making
that
happen.
Well,
let
me
see
if
I
can
see
if
the
the
motion
or
would
accept
that
as
a
friendly
amendment,
you.
I
On
okay,
so
then
yeah,
so
besides,
two
council
members,
three
other
at
least
three
other
members-
should
be
cupertino
resident,
yeah.
A
Well,
I
I
and
I'll
make
note
that
I've
asked
about
that
precisely
and
it
wasn't
accepted,
but
I
can
go
back
to
councilman
moore
and
see
if
that
would
be
acceptable
as
the
maker
of
promotion.
D
Well,
when
it,
when
it
comes
back,
we
can
just
for
purposes
of
finishing
this
item
up.
D
So
we
could
have
a
line
that
that
says
that
the
the
it's
a
committee
that
will
maintain
a
majority
a
resident
majority,
but
but
when
it
comes
back
and
and
hopefully
it
won't
be
such
a
full
agenda.
But
when
it
comes
back,
we
can
have
that
discussion
further
and
decide
whether
to
keep
keep
it
or
keep
it
or
strike
it
in
in
in
the
code.
C
Yeah,
we'll
we'll
we'll
yes,
we'll
bring
back
an
ordinance
without
with
optional
language,.
D
Okay,
so
the
emotions
amended
to
have
optional
ordnance
language,
to
say
something
to
the
effect
of
maintaining
a
majority
of
residents,
and
I
would
need
the
seconder,
which
is
councilmember
way
to
agree
to
that
if
that
works.
I
also
remember.
A
J
A
Oh
great,
thank
you,
you're
shaking
your
head
and
saying
it
so
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
so
let's,
let's
close
this
out
and
madam
city
clerk,
could
you
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
for
this
mission.
K
Okay,
okay,
yes,
will
I
be
conducting
the
first
reading
also.
K
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk.
I'm
sorry
at
least
it's
10
something
we
are
now
at
the
end
of
our
agenda.
I
believe
so.
Let
me
just
double
check
this.
Yes,
that
was
item
18.
Now
we
are
at
adjournment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
and
you
know,
congratulations.
A
I
think
we've
really
accomplished
quite
a
bit,
so
I
I
anticipate
this
as
our
busiest
week
of
the
year,
especially
after
all
that
we've
done
over
the
years
to
you
know,
put
everything
into
line,
not
just
the
capital
improvement
program,
but
the
work
plan
and
the
budget.
So
so
thanks
for
everyone's
hard
work,
it
is,
you
know
very
deeply
appreciated
by.
I
know
everyone
on
council,
and
so
you
know
I'll
leave
it.
F
A
And
if
you
want
me
to
read
a
poem
to
that
effect,
I've
I've
written
one,
but
I
won't
do
that
now.
So
thanks
so
much,
everyone
have
a
great
night
and
we
will
see
you
for
our
first
regular
council
meeting
in
june.
That's
june
7.
take
care
of
meeting
adjourned.