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Coverage of the March 21, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting.
(Live Streamed Version)
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Okay,
I'm
gonna
make
a
little
announcement
because
American
Red
Cross
month
is
this
month,
so
I
like
to
take
a
moment
to
recognize
that
March
is
American
Red
Cross
month
we
have
issued
a
proclamation
declaring
March
as
American
Red
Cross
months
in
the
city
of
Cupertino.
There's
a
long
history
of
the
American
cross,
helping
our
neighbors
in
need,
and
this
is
a
special
time
to
honor
the
kindness
and
dedication
of
the
volunteers
and
donors
who
give
their
time
and
resources
to
help
families
and
people
in
our
communities.
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And
today,
I
have
a
very
sad
news
to
share
with
you,
our
Board
of
trustee
with
the
Fremont
Union
High
School
District
we're
rocking
passed
away
on
Sunday.
He
was
intelligent
and
kind
man.
He
served
our
community
and
taught
at
Lindbergh
High
School
before
he
became
board
member
with
Fremont
Union
High
School
District
I
have
served
with
him
for
many
many
years.
He
was
not
just
a
board
of
trustee,
but
also
a
mentor
and
also
a
friend
I
like
to
give
a
few
seconds
of
respect
to
Roy.
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It
is
very,
very
easy
to
forget
about
the
history
of
Cupertino
and
our
little
part
of
of
California
and
we've
had
the
stockelmeyer
property
for
quite
a
while.
Now
we
have
the
orchard
which
we'll
talk
about
later,
with
the
orange
Orchard
Etc
and
I
used
to
actually
ride
the
bus
down
the
hill
when
I
was
going
to
De
Anza,
the
23
or
24
and
I
would
see
the
fish
ponds.
H
I
think
that
we're
actually
because
you're
up
high
enough
when
you're
coming
down,
we
called
it
huhu
Hill
and
you
could
see
into
the
property
and
I,
always
wondered
what
the
fish
ponds
were
that
were
there
and
I.
Don't
know
why
it
is
taking
so
long
to
start
working
on
the
house,
but
I
think
that
everyone
in
Cupertino
needs
to
remember
and
understand
the
history
of
the
people
that
were
here
before
us.
H
We
learn
a
lot
from
people
who
lived
in
the
city
before
us,
and
I
really
do
think
that
it's
time
now
that
we
start
working
on
the
stockelmeyer
house,
one
of
the
most
significant
things
that
I
have
encountered
when
my
husband
and
I
went
to
Virginia.
In
probably
one
of
our
reunion
trips,
probably
in
about
2010,
we
were
in
the
city
of
Winchester
and
we
actually
worked,
which
is
about
a
little
town
from
the
1840s
and
all
of
a
sudden.
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We
were
walking
along
and
there's
an
acre
of
land,
and
it
is
this
little
cabin,
that's
sitting
there
and
it
is
where
George
Washington
had
one
of
his
survey
Cottages
or
cabins
from
1745..
He
was
trained
as
a
surveyor
as
a
teenager
and
he
surveyed
a
lot
of
the
land
and
they
had
kept
the
actual
structure
there.
I
mean
1735.
I
was
dumbfounded
that
this
was
something
because
that
was
Wilderness
at
the
time.
Winchester
was
actually
founded
a
hundred
years
later.
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It's
where
apple
orchards
in
that
area,
but
California
has
a
lot
of
old
structures
itself,
I'm
I'm
working
on
looking
at
the
Home
in
Scotts
Valley.
That
was
where
the
founder
lived,
et,
cetera,
et
cetera,
but
we
have
just
because
a
home
is
from
1900
doesn't
mean
that
it
doesn't
deserve
and
we
own
it
and
it
can't
be
torn
down.
Let's
restore
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
Good
evening,
I,
don't
know
where
to
begin
to
express
my
disappointment
at
the
last
council
meeting
about
the
behavior
of
people
that
participated
in
the
council
meeting,
it
was
like
something
out
of
a
medieval
fair
bear.
Baiting
Etc,
you
know
the
whole
point
of
this
sort
of
a
situation
is
to
exchange
ideas.
It
is
not
to
pillory
people,
it
is
not
to
abuse
them
and
we
had
people
from
out
of
town
coming
in
here
talking
very
passionately
about
issues
that
they
didn't
understand.
I
We
had
a
section
of
people
that
were
hooting
and
hollering
and
chuckling
when
they
were
discussing
Mr
Wong,
and
it
was
just
unbelievable.
It
was
just
a
completely
disgusting
spectacle
and
it
was
unnecessary
if
you
wanted
to
relieve
him
of
his
duties.
All
you
had
to
do
was
vote
on
it.
You
didn't
have
to
pillory
him.
I've
had
many
people
talk
to
me
in
my
exercise.
Class
and
they've
wanted
to
know
when
they're
going
to
people
are
going
to
start
to
recall
the
council
because
they
thought
it
was
so
offensive.
I
You've
turned
this
man
into
a
martyr
and
in
the
past,
when
people
have
come
to
power,
they
have
just
held
their
noses
and
waited
until
the
per
the
commissioner
had
termed
out.
They
didn't
do
this.
It
was
unnecessary,
I
think
you've,
behaved,
abominably
and
I
think
you
need
to
be
put
in
time
out
bad
counsel.
Shame
on
you.
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So
Kirsten's
going
to
put
a
slide
up
that
I
asked
several
meetings
ago
to
share
and
I'll
I'll
tell
you
why,
when
it's
there,
okay,
you
can
see
it
all.
I
can
see.
Is
myself
okay,
there
we
go
so
I
would
just
like
this
to
be
for
the
record
and
people
to
understand
that
this
is
this
particular
image
without
the
edits
is
from
well
I.
Believe
the
city
has.
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Supplied
it
to
a
who
is
it
fairs,
and
you
know
who
I'm
talking
about
the
consultant
people
looking
at
into
Main
Street,
and
there
are
issues
with
the
map
that
they're
using
and
they're
basing
their
report
on.
They
have
their
report
in
draft
form
and
it's
using
this
map.
It's
not
correct,
and
you
can
ask
me
about
it
later,
because
I
don't
want
to
spend
any
more
time
on
that
I.
Just
keep
sending
Mr,
Kirsten
and
now
I've
got
in
there.
Thank
you
so
other
other
things,
new,
the
new
Creek
Trail
great.
It's
here.
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J
So
what
I'd
like
to
know
is
if
we
could
somehow
get
a
very
firm,
sensible
multi,
you
know
definition
I
want
to
say,
but
more
than
that,
a
definition
for
the
term
undue
influence
as
it's
used
in
the
new
procedural
manual
and
also
how
it's
used
elsewhere
in
the
city
or
Beyond.
It
would
be
really
helpful
to
have
that
so
I'm
requesting
that,
and
hopefully
one
or
more
of
the
council
members
will
ask
for
that
and
staff
can
produce
it
for
us.
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K
Good
evening
city
council
I
would
like
to
talk
to
you
today
about
the
capital
Improvement
projects
that
are
ongoing
in
the
city
and
the
experience
of
a
resident
that
is
dealing
with
the
city,
roads
and
the
traffic
conditions.
As
you
may
have
heard
from
me
on,
a
written
commented
to
you.
Mclillon
road
is
a
complete
mess.
We
have
traffic
that
is
going
in
the
opposite
lane.
K
The
problems
are
completely
of
the
city
Zone
making
because
of
the
creation
of
these
artificial,
no
right
turn
on
reds
that,
in
turn,
have
led
to
this
traffic
scramble.
That,
in
turn,
has
led
to
a
large
amount
of
traffic
that
is
allowed
to
flow
when
the
light
turns
green,
causing
cars
to
back
up
into
the
opposing
Lane
as
they
go
westbound
on
McClellan
during
school
Peak
powers,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
current
projects
that
are
in
the
pipeline
of
the
eight
projects
that
are
in
the
pipeline.
K
For
bike
bed
and
Roads,
four
or
five
of
them
are
related
to
creating
more
disasters
like
mclillon
Road,
namely
we
are
going
to
create
smaller
roads.
We
are
going
to
constrict
traffic
on
the
roads.
We're
gonna
put
in
these
concrete
cinder
blocks
with
separated
bike
Lanes
in
other
stretches
such
as
McLellan
extensions
such
as
Stevens,
Creek,
Boulevard
extensions
and
we're
gonna
add
buffer
zones
on
the
Anza
Boulevard.
K
K
I
request
the
city
council
to
please
bring
some
common
sense
to
these
projects
and
defer
funding
for
all
projects
that
constrict
the
flow
of
traffic
and
create
safety
hazards
for
the
public.
I
further
request
you
to
please
have
simple
fixes,
which
is
eliminate
the
no
right
turn
on
red
If.
You
eliminate
the
no
return
on
red
and
introduce
crossing
guards
which
we
already
have.
We
do
not
need
more
crossing
guards.
Mclellan
and
Bob
already
has
a
crossing
guard.
We
did
not
need
the
scramble.
We
did
not
need
the
no
right
turn
on
red.
K
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Thank
you
good
evening
mayor
way.
Vice
mayor,
Mohan,
council
members
and
staff,
I
would
like
to
make
the
council
and
the
public
aware
and
some
of
the
staff
that
the
city
lost
over
12.5
million
dollars
last
month
and
they'll
lose
another
323
000
this
month.
This
is
result
of
the
California
Department
of
tax
and
fee
Administration.
We
get
local
taxes
sales
tax
once
a
month.
L
L
L
This
is
the
statement
from
March
10..
This
is
March
21st
12
days
ago,
and
we
still
don't
know
publicly
that
this
actually
happened.
I
have
several
questions
regarding
this.
Why
did
this
happen?
Why
wasn't
the
council
and
the
public
informed
of
this
massive
multi-million
dollar
loss
in
Revenue
over
a
month
ago?
Why
wasn't
the
audit
committee
informed
when
they
met
in
February
at
least
weeks
after
it
was
known?
How
much
more
will
the
city
lose
and
does
the
city
have
to
give
Apple
an
Insight,
their
35
sales
tax
Kickback
in
spite
of
this
loss?
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L
D
M
But
we
do
everything
possible
to
stall,
enforce
multiple
actions
that
have
now
reached
the
point
where
there,
where
some
agreement
is
going
to
have
to
be
reached
in
order
to
be
able
to
bring
this
to
an
end.
We
just
want
to
say
for
at
least
for
the
future
that
we
hope
the
city
can
at
least
consider
what's
right.
M
M
So
on
that
note,
I
would
ask
you
to
maybe
have
some
sort
of
a
much
more
open
sort
of
dialogue
in
terms
of
being
able
to
be
a
more
conciliatory
and
then
not
have
to
drag
this
thing
out
for
like
three
years,
which
is
causing
nothing
but
acrimony
between
all
of
the
different
parties
involved.
So
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
do
hope
that
that
something
good
can
come
all
of
us,
maybe
not
for
her,
but
mainly
for
other
residents
of
Cupertino.
Thank
you.
D
N
Somehow
I've
been
to
the
circle
and
the
thing
is
we
asked
because
we
also
had
a
amount,
a
legal
announced,
three
different
legal
consultants
in
other
cities,
I
mean
and
the
things
we
want
to
put
some
cost
work,
because
we
had
this
Europe
three
two
times
have
died
and
taken
away
belongings.
Well
because
we
don't
want
all
these
things
happen
and
over
everything,
and
always
stepping
to
the
residents
and
homeowners
in
the
city,
and
this
this
you
know
in
all
education,
the
colors
they
find
a
piece
and
patterns
keep
going.
N
So
we
thinking
at
least
need
a
compensating
and
the
material
cost
or
the
build
up
with
the
Hi-Fi
figure
and
and
also
some
legal
fees-
oh
and
to
that,
and
and
so
we
and
the
peace
Factor
back
and
if
the
kids
already
have
so
present
on
this,
maybe
help
some
some
distance
if
we
need
a
temporary
State
and
homeless
whatever
so
so
the
well.
Those
kind
of
patterns
will
not
continue
to
have
maybe
already
overstep
any
homeowner
and
in
the
city.
So
we,
but
once
the
council
to
consider
that.
O
Hi
good
evening,
Council
and
staff
today
I'm
my
comment:
I
have
a
couple
of
comments.
One
of
them
is
I'm
very
saddened
about.
The
last
meeting
like
Brooke
mentioned.
I
was
saddened
that
our
young
youth
has
no
respect
for
the
elders,
a
respected
individual.
The
community
was
pretty
much
I
yeah.
It
was
like
a
a
circus
in
there
and
I.
Just
was
at
all
that
I
know.
O
Mayor
Paul
would
have
put
order
into
that
situation
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention
so
that
in
the
future
there
could
be
some
order.
I
actually
looked
for
the
sheriff.
It
was
like
in
the
past
that
would
not
have
been
tolerated.
There's
been
a
clapping
in
the
past,
I've
been
around
for
a
while
that
you
know
when
all
the
back
and
forth
and
people
were
discussing
passionately,
but
never
like
it
was
last
time.
O
It
was
very
embarrassing
that
video
going
out
from
our
city
was
embarrassing
and
I
just
wanted
to
plead
with
you
to
not
let
that
ever
happen
again
and
please
put
those
people
mayor,
Paul,
stopped
and
said:
please:
well
everyone
stop
the
whatever
it
is.
They're
clapping,
or
whatever
he
put
order
into
it,
so
please
do
that
in
the
future.
O
Also
I
it
just
during
the
meetings
it
appears
to
be
hostile,
it
does
not
seem
to
be
a
safe
environment.
I
get
some
hostility
from
from
a
group
of
people
towards
other
people,
and
it
just
doesn't
feel
like
everyone's
working
together.
I
wanted
to
just
plead
with
you,
mayor
hungway.
You
went
on
the
campaign
that
you
were
gonna
work
with
people
and
get
everyone
to
work
together
amicably
and
it
just
seems
a
little
hostile,
not
safe.
It
feels
like
a
almost
like
a
Witch
Hunt
towards
certain.
O
B
Q
Sudama
council
member
Moore's,
first
request
on
the
Peggy
Griffin's
request
we're
already
working
on
it.
The
request
King
to
director
El,
Faro
and
myself
late
today,
so
we'll
provide
a
response
back
to
miss
Griffin
and
also
provide
that
same
response
back
to
council.
We're
looking
at
hopefully
to
have
that
information
completed
by
early
next
week.
B
Q
Q
E
E
R
Q
P
B
P
P
G
P
Probably
we'll
provide
the
update,
yeah,
oh
and
lastly,
through
the
mayor,
I
was
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
wait
until
the
end
of
this
meeting,
but
with
regards
to
our
sign
ordinance
in
general,
when
would
be
an
appropriate
time
to
make
a
motion
to
revisit
that
ordinance.
I
have
some
questions
about,
what's
allowable
in
my
own
neighborhood
that
I've
seen.
Q
So
to
have
a
study
session
or
any
sort
of
work
to
be
done
on
a
sign.
Ordinance
right
now
would
have
been
considered
a
work
program
item
which
is
not
part
of
the
work
program.
The
council
has
provided
direction
to
staff
for
next
year,
but
we
can
certainly
entertain
a
potential
conversation
to
either
add
or
modify
the
current
work
program
and
having
a
more
refined
scope
on
the
science.
Ordinance
and
staff
can
work
with
adequate
allocation
of
Staff
time
and
resource
to
work
on
the
program.
B
B
R
B
S
B
S
B
B
E
Pulled
it:
okay,
go
ahead,
I,
send
my
questions
to
staff,
but
sorry,
I,
really
I
haven't
had
time
to
re,
read
the
answer,
but
the
main
concern
is
usually
the
for
public
project.
We
take
the
lowest
bid
and
for
this
item
it
seems
to
be
not
lowest
bid.
It's
based
on
qualification,
but
the
qualification
scoring
particular
was
not
listed.
I.
E
Remember
usually
when
this
qualification
based
the
council
has
to
have
resolution
on
specific
type
of
project
we
may
have
qualification
based
and
also
the
qualification
has
to
be
public
information,
and
that
information
is
not
available.
I
think
this
is
to
ensure
fairness
for
all
the
respondents
so
that
they
are
being
considered
fairly
by
a
public
agency.
So
I
remember,
we
approved
something
for
the
library
Expansion
Project
only
specifically,
but
this
is
a
different
project
when
we
can
consider
qualification
rather
than
just
lowest
bid.
T
Good
evening
Council
Chad
Mosley
interim
director
of
Public
Works,
we
did
respond
to
that
question
in
one
of
the
supplemental
questionnaires,
but
I
do
have
Jimmy
Tan
our
assistant,
Public
Works,
director
on
the
zoom
call
to
answer
this
question
he's
been
handling.
Many
of
those
questions
so
I
will
hand
that
off
to
him.
U
Leaving
audible
mayor
members
of
the
city
council
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
the
questions.
Yeah,
the
you
know,
the
the
RFP
that
was
sent
out
was
advertised
included,
the
you
know
the
qualifications
that
were
looked
at
in
addition
to
the
cost
overall
cost.
So
you
know
we
had
a
pricing
table
attached
to
the
RV
that
requested
unit
prices
for
various
different
items
that
were
part
of
the
scope
of
work.
U
So
with
that,
you
know
at
the
the
term
the
the
time
when
the
poses
are
due
the
city
staff
actually
reviewed
all
of
the
other
prices
and
compared
them
with
various
different
contractors
that
submitted
and
out
of
the
the
six
contractors
West
Coast
operas
was
the
the
submitted,
the
actual
lowest
unit
price
for
the
for
the
project.
So
we
are
selecting
West
Coast
average,
which
is
the
lowest
unit
price
contractor.
U
In
addition
to
that,
we
did
review
the
the
proposals,
and
then
we
ensured
that
the
The
Firm
actually
has
the
qualifications,
as
well
as
the
proposals
or
verified
to
be
responsive
or
actually
be
responsible
and
qualified,
as
well
as
that
the
company
can
perform
discover
work.
That's
identified
in
the
Erp.
E
But
as
I
remember,
I
read
the
staff
report,
it
didn't
say
it's
based
on
the
lowest
unit
price
and
the
unit
price
were
not
listed
in
the
staff
report
and
for
the
other
contract
which
is
agenda,
item
five
I
think
the
all
the
plates
were
listed
and
then
we
understand
that
we
choose
the
lowest
bid.
This
step
reports
specifically
said
it's
qualification
and
the
unit
cost
are
both
considered.
So
you
are
saying
we
did
choose
the
lowest
unit.
Price
and
qualification
were
considered
or
not
considered.
U
A
U
We
have
you
know
that
we
occur
for
our
cities
right.
So
with
that
you
know,
in
addition
to
the
qualifications,
we
still
have
to
look
at
the
overall
cost
to
make
sure
that
the
contractors
you
know
provides
the
efficient
costs
to
do
the
work
that
we're
asking
to
do
so
with
that
you
know
it's
it's
both.
You
know
as
part
of
the
overall
evaluations,
both
cost
and
qualifications
were
considered.
R
T
And
might
interrupt
please
and
for
the
other
contract,
that's
for
actual
defined
work
that
will
be
happening
for
this
one.
It's
an
on-call
service.
We
don't
know
what
work
will
be
necessary
until
that
work
comes
up
so,
like
we
just
had
these
recent
storms
with
the
trees,
we
may
have
needed
to
call
out
a
contractor
to
help
with
some
of
that.
We
don't
know
what
that
work
is
until
the
situation
arises.
T
E
B
P
B
P
P
Is
it
that
you
are
over
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
that
this
was
brought
to
council
and
I
want
to
clarify
with
that
175
000
in
the
purchasing
policy?
Is
that
for
the
entire
contract,
regardless
of
the
time
period?
So
if
it
was
five
years,
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
would
that
trigger
a
contract
needing
to
come
to
council,
or
is
it
just
for
a
single
year
amount,
so
I'm
wondering
what
where
what
the
trigger
is
and
what's
the
difference
between
these
two
contracts?
Thank
you.
U
First,
if
I
made
answer
that
question
in
regards
to
the
contract,
you
know
it
is
not
a
single
year
contract,
it's
a
multi-year
contract.
So
with
that
the
city
is
bringing
the
item
for
console
approval
and
it
will
you
know
it's
currently
right
now
it
is
a
city
staff
is
requesting
an
on-call
agreement
of
200
000
per
year,
which
actually
triggers
Consular
approval
for
that
and
since
it's
a
multi-year
contract.
U
In
addition,
the
other
questions
that
you
had
of
councilmember
and
it's
not
in
the
budget,
because
it's
not
we're
not
requesting
additional
probations.
You
know
for
this
item.
It's
because
the
the
amount,
the
budget
the
base
budget
already
includes
the
probations
already
for
the
to
treat.
You
know
services
so
that
that's
the
reason
why
and
it's
it's
allocated
throughout
various
different
budgets.
You
know
in
our
in
our
ground
maintenance
budget,
various
different
funding
programs.
So,
but
that's
the
reason
why
we're
not
requesting
additional
funding
for
this.
P
T
B
D
H
Thank
you,
I'm
glad
to
have
the
discussion
about
this.
I
have
actually
used
West
Coast
arborist
I
have
a
a
Modesto
Ash
in
my
backyard,
which
is
cabled
and
braced
I've
had
the
tree
maintained
since
I
purchased
the
house
in
1995.
I
purchased
the
house
understanding
that
I
would
have
to
maintain
the
back
tree
and
we
have.
We
have
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
the
back
tree.
I
am
happy
to
report
that
there
was
nothing
lost
in
those
winds
and
we
have
cables
and
braces
installed.
H
I
did
consult
with
West
Coast
Arbors
several
times.
Probably
15
years
ago,
was
very
very
impressed.
I
had
to
have
my
Modesto
Ash
trimmed
a
year
ago,
I
actually
looked
at
West
Coast
arborist,
but
I
was
able
to
have
another
person
because
they
were
able
to
come
in
for
the
PG
e
clearances.
I
would
recommend
West,
Coast,
arborists
and
I
would
say.
Remember
when
Rancho
Rinconada
annexed.
It
was
understood
that
my
neighborhood
in
2000
part
of
the
planning,
was
that
we
came
in
with
fully
mature
trees.
H
Fifty
thousand
dollars
was
spent
to
purchase
the
equipment
that
actually
lifts
people
up
to
trim
the
trees.
So
there
is
an
understanding
that
we
have.
There
is
an
understanding
by
the
neighborhood
of
Rancho
Rinconada
that
Cupertino
will
maintain
our
trees.
That
was
one
of
the
agreements
when
we
annexed
it
was
very,
very
important
to
us.
Rancho
Rinconada
has
some
of
the
most
mature
large
trees
in
Cupertino
and
I've
been
very,
very
pleased
with
the
city's
maintenance
of
them.
H
But
when
you're
you
know,
if
you're
going
to
be
building
a
road
or
doing
something
else,
maybe
you
can
have
the
lowest
contractor,
but
you,
when
you're
bidding
on
tree
work,
you
have
to
look
at
whether
the
group
will
do
a
significant
job
and
they
know
they're
different
types
of
trees.
You
cannot
trim
trees
same
way
per
species
and
you
can't
take
a
40
year
old,
full-grown
tree
and
trim
it
the
way
you
would
a
5
to
10
year
old
tree.
H
There
is,
if
people,
if
people
don't
remember,
one
of
our
big
ashes
in
Rancho,
has
been
valued
at
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
Now
you
can
go
back
and
look
up
the
records
from
10
years
ago,
so
you
do
not
want
someone
coming
in
during
a
time
when
they're
on
call
and
start
hacking.
The
trees
up
believe
me,
I
have
seen
it.
I
saw
our
full-grown
Street
trees
cut
down
to
one
foot
from
the
base
before
we
annexed,
and
that
is
why
we
annexed
to
protect
our
trees.
H
I
think
that
the
city
understands
the
investment
they
have
in
our
big
trees.
The
big
trees
that
are
at
velco,
which
are
the
chamel
ashes,
which
are
different
than
Modesto
ashes.
But
I
am
pleased
that
the
city
is
looking
at
using
the
West
Coast
arborists
I.
Think
that
they're
a
very,
very
good
group,
and
that
we
will
know
when
the
winds
blow.
J
Hi
I
apologize
in
advance
if
this
isn't
an
appropriate
time
to
bring
this
up.
That
I've
been
wanting
to
ask
this
question
when
Street
trees
were
planted,
Years
Ago
by
the
city
and
they
were
responsible
for
them,
they
had
and
I.
Don't
know.
If
this
has
anything
to
do,
I
think
the
city
was
doing
it
themselves,
but
it
is
important
to
the
growth
of
the
trees
and
the
health
of
the
trees.
J
They
had
water
bags
on
them
and
a
Truck
would
come
by
every
once
in
a
while
some
schedule
that
was
appropriate,
I
assume
to
fill
those
bags
and
I
don't
see
those
anymore,
and
so
many
Street
trees
died
very
young
that
they're
never
going
to
need
the
service
of
any
of
these
Arbors.
So
if
we
could
just
clear
that
up,
that'd
be
great.
K
Council
I
would
like
to
understand
through
the
council
is,
there
is
a
element
of
this
that
can
be
looked
at,
which
is
on
call
activity.
200
000
per
year
is
a
fairly
steep
amount.
How
much
of
that
is
cost
attributed
to
the
on-call
nature
of
this
partnership
contract
versus
the
use
of
an
external
arborist
part
without
non-call?
The
reason
I
bring
this
up
is
because
my
understands
the
311
request.
K
There
is
an
on-call
service
that
is
looking
at
the
request
after
hours
for
after
hours,
we
need
to
call
emergency
numbers
that
are
listed
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
the
on
call
is
fully
warranted
or
if
it
would
be
on
a
monthly
basis
or
during
a
storm
in
Winter.
If
we
did
have
a
season
of
stops
in
in
a
regular
season
on
call
services
are
not
warranted.
B
E
G
So
the
the
amusement
code
provides
that
the
city
council
can
make
findings
to
to
award
contracts
to
other
than
a
lowest
bidder
in
certain
circumstances.
So
you
know
that
that
finding
is
not
necessary
here,
because
you
know,
based
on
the
combination
of
qualifications
and
price
Public
Works
is
recommending
that
the
council
select
the
lowest
bidder.
G
E
G
E
B
Comments
or
oh
on
anybody
else's
comments,
I
I
would
like
to
really
thank
the
public
works,
because
I
think
this
this
contract
seems
to
be.
We
have
residence.
Verification
is
a
really
good
company
and
we
really
need
on
call
with
trees,
because
this
is
with
the
weather
is
right.
Now
this
is
very
important
and
also
our
Public
Works
work
closely
with
the
sustainability
Department.
To
make
sure
our
you
know,
planetary
trees
are
being
taken
care
of.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember.
P
T
T
But
there
could
be
situations
where
removal
or
replacement
are
potentially
part
of
it,
but
most
of
this
is
really
going
to
be
for
for
trimming
and
and
removing
damaged
trees
with
respect
to
Replacements,
we
typically
replace
commercial
trees
where
necessary,
if
there's
gaps
that
people
are
noticing,
they
can
alert
us
to
those.
Typically,
if
you
see
gaps,
we've
been
trying
to
replace
those
and-
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
put
a
tree
in,
there
is
potentially
there's
a
PG
e
Vault
or
some
water
facility.
E
How
much
time
I
have
it's?
Okay,
a
couple
minutes
I
want
to
ask
the
question
I.
Think
one
of
the
public
member
asked
about
exactly
when
we
will
use
this
Uncle
maintenance
service.
My
understanding
is
the
city
does
have
staff
on
our
staff
does
have
the
ability
to
trim
trees
and
they
go
around
the
city
region
by
region
to
trim
them
and
maintain
and
maintain
them
over
the
years.
E
So
this
Uncle
is
not
a
regular
or
and,
like
I,
think
the
I
think
Sam
mentioned
if
a
resident
fell
on
311
and
the
tree
needs
maintenance.
Usually
it's
a
city
staff
that
goes
out
and
we
use
this
service
only
when
the
staff
couldn't
handle
the
normal
load
like
the
storm
situation.
Could
you
clarify
that.
B
B
B
B
G
E
S
So
I've
also
spoken
briefly
with
Miss
Frye
I've
reviewed
all
of
the
emails
that
she
has
sent,
including
the
ones
that
a
council
member
Chow
included
in
the
public
record.
In
addition
to
the
people
who
have
written
in
emails
to
council
I've
spoken
with
the
following
individuals
on
this
topic:
Connie
Cunningham,
Annie,
Yang,
Dr,
Shanny,
kleinhouse,
SEMA,
Lynn's,
cogniel,
Park,
McClintock,
Gene,
Bedard,
Michael,
Moore,
Jennifer,
Sheeran,
Tara,
Shri,
Krishna,
okay,.
W
W
Again,
the
the
introduction
by
mayor
way
is
essentially
the
subject
as
well
as
know,
I'll
repeat,
as
well
as
the
considered
petition
for
reconsideration
regarding
the
city
council
decision
of
February
7
2023
to
uphold
the
appeal
of
plan.
Commission
resolution
number
6962
in
part
approved
one
of
the
two
requests
of
free
RNA
signs
and
deny
the
request
to
sign
exception.
The
applicant
who's
also
the
appellant
as
well
during
the
council.
Hearing
on
February
7th
is
David
four
from
all
science
Services.
He
is
in
the.
W
He
is
an
attempt
and
attendance
as
well,
and
we
have
petitioner
Rhoda
fry
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
earlier
this
afternoon
after
the
council
received
their
presentations,
I
did
make
some
modifications
to
the
presentation
just
to
have
a
read
more
clear
and
consistent
with
the
staff
report.
So
if
causing
any
confusion,
I
apologize
but
I
want
to
get
that
made
you
aware
of
that
before
I
started.
W
So,
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
background,
starting
with
February
7th
Council
on
February
7th
2023,
upheld
appeal
of
plan.
Commission
resolution
1662
in
part
proved
one
of
the
two
requests
of
freeway
oriented
signs
and
denied
the
request
to
sign
exception.
10
days
later,
as
is
customary
within
the
10-day
period
to
reconsider,
wrote
a
fry
submitted,
a
petition
for
reconsideration
for
council's
decision
city
council
reconsideration,
Municipal
Code,
section
2.08.096
authorizes
any
interested
person
to
petition
the
city
council
to
reconsider
Eddie
at
judicary
decision
made
by
the
city
by
the
council.
W
Three
proof
of
facts
which
demonstrate
that
the
city
council
proceeded
with
Fout
or
in
excess
of
this
jurisdiction
petitioner
argues
that
city
council
proceeded
without
or
in
excess
of
its
jurisdiction,
citing
an
undefined
validation
from
Caltrans
staff
recommends
denying
reconsideration
on
this
ground
s.
Council
has
jurisdiction
to
review
the
planning
commission's
decision
and
affirm,
modify
or
reverse
it
grounds
for
reconsideration.
4
proof
of
facts
which
demonstrate
that
the
city
council
failed
to
provide
a
fair
hearing.
W
W
W
One
one
irada
that
was
brought
to
our
attention
a
few
days
ago
was
revision
staff
report
page
two
paragraph
four
first
should
read.
First
petition
argues
that
reconsideration
is
warranted
because
there
is
relevant
evidence,
so
the
no
should
be
crossed
out.
There
should
be
no.
No
in
there
recommended
actions
that
the
city
council
conduct
a
public
hearing
and
adopt
resolution
number
23.
attachment
a
denying
the
petition
for
reconsideration,
and
that
concludes
my
staff
presentation.
X
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Council
voted
to
approve
the
sign
without
having
the
necessary
data
and
direction
to
make
an
informed
decision.
The
red
arrow
points
to
the
proposed
sign
location.
Next
slide.
You
only
need
one
reason
to
reconsider
and
there
are
many
now
you
have
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
your
residence,
health
and
safety
needs
and
to
follow
new
Municipal
Municipal
Code
next
slide
per
the
city
website.
X
The
sign
ordinance
provides
the
regulations
that
the
city
has
adopted
to
ensure
that
signage
does
not
impinge
upon
the
Aesthetics
of
the
city
and
does
not
inconvenience
the
public.
The
building's
excessive,
exterior
lighting
gives
you
an
idea
as
to
the
impact
of
the
proposed
sign
next
slide.
There
were
many
missteps
during
the
approval
process.
You
could
not
have
a
fair
hearing,
because
relevant
evidence
was
improperly
excluded.
You
were
told
that
you
had
to
vote
for
one
freeway-oriented
sign
because
the
building
had
none.
X
X
The
staff
report
next
slide
assume
that
only
sign,
2
and
3
shown
below
are
freeway
oriented
and
incorrectly
assumed
that
sign
one
is
not
freeway
oriented
I
mentioned
in
the
reconsideration
petition.
Sign
one
is
visible
from
the
highway
280..
Consequently,
Council
rendered
a
decision
that
was
not
supported
by
findings
of
fact.
Next
slide.
X
The
fact
that
the
proposed
sign
directly
faces
homes
across
the
freeway
was
improperly
excluded.
The
above
picture
is
what
you
were
shown.
The
below
one
is
what
you
should
have
been
shown.
The
voices
of
your
most
impacted
constituents
were
muted
because
they
were
not
notified.
They
were
deprived
the
opportunity
to
provide
evidence
next
slide.
X
The
proposed
sign
number
three
has
the
apparent:
that's
the
one,
that's
more
northward
being
625
square
feet,
but
the
council
was
told
165
square
feet.
So
here
is
my
schematic
of
the
dimensions
with
a
six
foot
tall
person,
as
it
turns
out,
an
illuminated
sign
is
not
measured
by
the
size
of
the
rectangle.
It's
measured
by
the
area
of
illuminated
letters.
Who
would
know
that
next
slide,
you
were
not
told
that
the
building
was
supposed
to
be
nearly
invisible
from
the
freeway.
X
How
can
you
justify
approving
a
highly
visible
sign
now
Planning
Commission
approved
this
building,
because
it
was
supposed
to
be
a
low
impact.
Building
a
low
impact
building
doesn't
require
multiple
signs,
illuminated
signs
or
giant
signs.
The
previous
building
had
no
freeway
oriented
sign
for
40
years.
The
staff
report
even
said
allowing
more
than
one
wall
mounted
sign
to
a
single
business,
is
contrary
to
the
intent
and
purpose
of
the
sign
ordinance.
X
Next
slide,
Council
approved
the
new
Public
Storage
sign,
based
on
the
false
assumption
that
it
would
be
the
only
freeway
oriented
sign
and
its
impact
would
be
comparable
to
that
of
the
Cupertino.
Hotel
here
is
an
existing
sign
that
is
Public
Storage,
that
is
about
one-third
the
size
of
the
proposed
sign,
and
it
is
much
more
impactful
of
the
Cupertino
Hotel
sign,
which
is
pointed
to
by
the
blue
arrow,
because
otherwise
you
wouldn't
see
it
next
slide.
Council
was
unable
to
provide
a
fair
hearing,
because
Council
failed
to
obtain
clear
instructions
from
staff.
X
X
The
design
criteria,
which
is
key
to
approving
science,
was
improperly
excluded
from
the
staff
report
and
from
the
hearing.
Even
after
a
council
member
requested
its
display
and
subsequently
asked
for
a
constituent
continuance,
the
development
requirements
were
also
improperly
excluded.
The
sign
shall
be
compatible
with
the
aesthetic
character
of
the
surrounding
developments
and
neighborhood.
Now
this
area
is
residential
on
office
per
the
north
De
Anza
special
area
of
the
general
plan.
The
building
was
promised
to
look
like
an
office
office.
Signs
cannot
exceed
40
square
feet.
X
The
images
below
you
can
see
that
the
south
side
of
the
building
is
dark,
but
the
freeway
oriented
sign
s
is
not,
and
that's
the
side
that
faces
residents
next
slide
and
and
then
the
other
the
long
side
also
faces
residents.
The
design
criteria
dictates
that
color
illumination
shall
not
produce
a
distraction
to
motorists.
The
applicants
stated
that
he
would
want
the
sign
to
be
visible
to
motorists
driving
at
75
miles
per
hour.
It
would
produce
a
distraction.
All
the
designs
of
forged
residents
will
be
blinded
by
the
sign
when
they
enter
their
driveway.
X
That's
a
safety
hazard.
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
picture
below
that
was
taken
from
a
residence
window,
the
red
arrow
points
to
the
general
location
of
the
sign,
the
design
criteria
dictates
the
color
and
illumination
shall
not
produce
a
distraction
to
Residents,
allowing
light
to
shine
into
people's
homes
as
a
health
hazard
and
a
public
nuisance
next
slide.
Now,
let's
see
I
wanted
to
have
a
little
case
study
about
how
a
good
sign
program
works.
This
is
the
Cupertino
hotel
and
that
was
approved
in
2016.
It
went
from
May
through
August.
X
First,
they
determine
the
size,
then
they
determine
the
illumination
and
then
what
they
do
is
they
refine?
They
look
at
the
design
criteria.
They
took
a
close
look
at
that
they
say.
Is
this
compatible
with
the
aesthetic
character
of
the
surrounding
developments
and
neighborhood,
and
then
they
ask
how
about
the
color
and
illumination?
Let's
make
sure
it
shall
not
produce
a
distraction
to
motorists
or
nearby
residents.
In
fact,
the
staff
report
explains
that,
following
the
formal
application,
the
applicant
worked
with
staff
to
further
refine
the
plans,
including
size
of
the
sign
and
illumination
intensity.
X
Etc
next
slide,
please
now
I'm
going
to
compare
the
public
storage
building
with
the
Hyatt
House
sign,
which
is
a
hotel.
This
is
that
picture
was
taken
at
at
dawn,
the
building
that
the
building
that
you
see.
That's
actually
what
the
sign
that
that's,
what
that's
the
size
of
the
sign
that
actually
faces
the
freeway
but
I
couldn't
get
an
image
in
it.
So
I
took
a
different
one.
It
is
the
same
size,
the
other
one,
with
the
trees.
That
is
the
sign
from
the
freeway.
X
X
It
faces
residence
homes,
it's
an
intensification
of
a
non-conforming
use
and
it
vital
Municipal
Code
next
slide.
You
know
mistakes
can
happen.
We
can
fix
it.
It's
accepting
that
the
hearing
went
wrong
and
rejecting
the
sign
proposal
allows
the
applicant
to
reapply
and
work
with
staff
and
propose
a
more
appropriate
sign
consequences
of
accepting
a
sign
public
nuisance,
health
hazard
safety,
hazard,
excessive
energy
use,
light
pollution.
Let's
do
something
about
the
elimination
on
the
building.
Look,
let's
say
I
want
you
to
think
about
this.
X
If
my
home
was
allowed
to
have
only
one
swimming
pool
and
I
already
had
one
that
was
accidentally
permitted
as
and
had,
but
had
a
small
hot
tub
upon
realizing
the
error.
Would
the
city
allow
me
to
have
a
second
swimming
pool
with
the
knowledge
that
it
would
be
a
public
nuisance,
a
health
and
safety
hazard?
Can
you
answer
that
question
now,
there's
been
public
outcry.
Next
slide,
you've
got
over
160
signatures
on
change.org
Audubon
Society
Sierra
Club.
Now
you've
got
several.
D
R
B
G
E
E
E
Plan
the
petitioner
claims,
the
public
storage
building
sits
in
I,
think
the
staff
report
I
read
so
many
versions.
One
of
the
staff
reports
says
that
current
zoning
is
I,
think
office
and
Industrial
for
that
site,
but
I
think
the
petitioner
is
claiming
that
the
general
plan
for
that
side
is
not
industrial
use.
Therefore,
it's
a
non-compliant
use.
It's.
Q
Q
R
E
R
G
W
P
X
X
You
know,
I
I,
just
I
lived
here
for
40
years,
I've
I've,
gotten
involved
in
various
issues:
trees,
garbage
school
safety,
all
sorts
of
things,
and
this
one
just
just
I-
had
a
visceral
reaction
to
it
and
I
think
a
lot
of
other
people
do.
Is
you
notice
you
know?
I
did
a
change
that
art
petition
you've
gotten
over
160
signatures,
Audubon
Society,
ACR
Club
are
on
board
with
this
and
you've
gotten
a
lot
of
letters.
P
D
X
That
got
it
yes,
and
actually
before,
just
before
that.
Regarding
the
the
general
plan,
the
Zoning
for
the
north
De
Anza
special
area
that
is
still
in
place,
it
was
in
place
and
you
know-
and
so
it
is
residential
and
an
office.
That's
what
that's
what
it
says
and
that's
why
this
a
project
that
was
smaller
than
this
one
at
Public
Storage
was
projected
in
2006..
X
So
as
far
as
the
building
is
assigned,
that's
kind
of
interesting
Public
Storage
has
come
up.
Their
Architects
have
come
up
with
this
idea,
and
then
they
had
it
in
their
blog
about
how
they're
it's
their
new
design
and
that
the
building
is
the
sign.
So
you
know
that's
why
they
have
the
orange
wall
which
is
like
for
that
particular
one
is
625
square
feet,
and
then
they
put
the
sign
on
it,
but
they
actually
did
they're
saying
the
building
is
the
sign.
So
the
impact
is
that
you've
got
this.
X
You
know
billboard
size
sign,
looking
at
you
and
then,
of
course,
there's
these
illuminated
hallways
that
are
fake
and
they're
also
shining
into
residence
bedrooms,
and-
and
that
is
also
that
that
whole
idea
of
the
design
about
the
building
being
it
actually
says
the
building
is
the
sign
with,
is
and
italics
on
there
on
their
blog
and
the
the
buildings.
Architects.
G
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
an
internally
illuminated
hallway
would
would
be
a
sign.
It
doesn't
have
any
of
the
indesia
being
signage.
I'd
also
say
that
you
know
that
when
this
building
was
originally
approved,
you
know
neither
the
hallway
nor
the
building
was
treated
as
a
sign
and
that
that
decision
is
is
final
and
is
really
not
the
subject
of
reconsideration.
Tonight.
There
are
Provisions
for
non-residential
indoor
right
Lighting
in
the
bird
safe
development,
ordinance
and
those
are
are,
are
being
enforced
with
respect
to
this
building.
So.
G
G
P
B
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
the
staff
a
few
questions.
You
know
we
we
have
Council
here.
We
we
make
ordinances,
we
follow
city
codes,
we
have
follow-state
and
federal
laws,
so
I
think
we
need
to
follow
our
own
laws.
When
we
at
this
sign
is
it
anywhere
design
is
in
violation
of
our
codes
or
objective
standards?
B
Y
B
Q
The
mayor
I'll
take
that
yeah,
so
the
sign
has
been
approved
by
the
Council
on
February
7th.
That
was
a
final
decision
made
by
Council
and
you're
absolutely
right.
If
the
council,
members
and
the
members
of
public
find
difficulties
in
what
has
been
regulated
in
the
sign
ordinance,
that
is
a
different
task.
Q
Perhaps
Council
can
consider
directing
staff
to
revisit
design
ordinance
as
a
work
study,
a
work
program
item
as
council
member
more
alluded
to
earlier
during
the
meeting
today.
However,
the
current
sign
that
was
approved
by
council
is
in
full
compliance
with
the
regulation
that's
in
place
today
and
with
that
said,
I
would
also
like
to
read
my
counsel
as
laid
out
and
staff
report.
The
petition
for
reconsiderations
can
only
be
made
based
on
the
five
findings
and
criteria,
as
laid
out
in
section
2.08096
understand.
B
Okay,
I,
that's
my
question.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
the
petition,
the
applicants
are
following
all
the
ordinances,
object,
standards
and
city
codes.
One
more
question:
you
know
that
the
petition
mentioned
that
the
sign
is
huge,
but
when
I
we
were
told
the
sign
is
not
huge.
It's
165
square
feet,
but
the
petitioner
says
500
or
600
square
feet.
Can
you
tell
me
the
difference.
W
Sure
mayor,
yes,
you
know
the
petitioner
had
measured
and
I
think
she
even
clarified
herself
in
her
presentation
at
least
that's
how
I
understood
it.
She
had
counted
the
orange
background
as
sign
area.
You
know
the
way.
1908
definitions
in
the
municipal
code
defines
how
defines
how
we
measure
signs-
and
you
know,
potentially
individual
letter
signs
like
the
one
that
was
approved,
is
just
very,
very
delineated
or
just
around
the
letters
themselves
and
whatnot
and
that's
a
sign
area
now,
if
it
has
the
fine
background,
that's
illuminated.
W
B
V
B
V
W
Correct
the
the
sign
ordinance
has
the
the
250
foot
Lambert
restrictions
on
it.
You
know
if
the
signs
are
indeed,
you
know
turned
off
by
a
certain
time,
and
that
includes
even
the
interior
ones,
which
are
not
up
for
reconsideration
now.
You
know
those
would
be
in
compliance
with
the
dark
sky
ordinance,
correct.
V
Q
Through
the
mayor,
if
I
understand,
the
request
from
vice
mayor
is
if
there
is
a
request
that
could
be
passed
on
to
the
developer,
to
be
a
good
neighbor
to
the
community
to
voluntarily
turn
off
your
light
at
a
certain
time
so
that
it
minimized
the
impact
to
the
residents
around
the
facility,
and
that
will
be
a
volunteering
gesture
on
the
developer
and
operator.
Side
and
staff
can
definitely
follow
up
with
the
conversation.
But
that
will
be
a
voluntary
gesture
on
the
operator
side.
W
W
Thank
you
the
way
it
was
taken
in
we,
we
had
made
the
Judgment
at
the
time
of
application.
For
for
this.
You
know
it
was
an
exception
and,
as
even
subsequently
as
a
building
permit,
that
this
was
not
a
freeway
oriented
sign.
Do
the
direction
was
facing
as
well
as
just
by
the
way
the
plan
sets
were
drawn
out.
We
made
a
termination
of
time.
The
building
permit
was
has
been
approved,
the
signs
have
been
installed
and
and
whatnot,
and
so
it
was.
It
was
a
call
that
we
made
with
that.
S
G
However,
speculation,
conjecture
or
unsubstantiated
opinion
does
not
constitute
substantial
evidence
under
the
law
so
that
that's
the
general
standard,
so
there
you
know,
you'd
have
to
want
to
point
to
concrete
facts
that,
for
example,
showed
that
there
was
evidence
presented
so
just
taking
the
example
of
the
first
finding
for
for
reconsideration
that
there
was
evidence
presented
by
the
petitioner
here
that
both
was
not
made
available
to
council
by
the
petitioner
or
another
party
and
also
could
not
have
been
made
available
by
reason.
Diligence.
G
S
And
on
the
fifth
prong,
the
abusive
discretion
prong
in
another
administrative
proceedings,
it
would
be
sufficient
to
say
that
something
was
wrong
as
a
matter
of
law
in
order
to
be
able
to
reverse
it.
But
is
it
correct
to
say
that
in
this
instance,
you
would
also
have
to
support
it
with
a
a
finding
of
substantial
evidence?
Yeah.
B
So
I
have
one
more
question
for
staff,
because
the
petition
does
also
say
that
the
planning
commissioner
denied
it.
So
she
expect
the
council
to
also
deny
that
what,
under
what
condition,
was
the?
How
has
the
Planning
Commission
denied
it
or
do
they
deny
that?
Did
they
have
the
right
to
deny
it
or
do
they
did
our
legal
counsel,
consult,
you
know,
give
them
advice.
S
G
B
D
Oh
come
here:
I
have
five
cards
blue
speaker
cards
that
have
been
submitted
in
Community,
Hall
and
I,
see
several
hands
raised
on
Zoom.
Please
have
your
hands
raised
or
submit
speaker
cards
submitted
in
the
next
nine
minutes.
I
have
starting
with
Jennifer
Griffin
Albert
Lee
and
Connie
Cunningham
welcome
Jennifer.
H
Good
evening
city
council
I
was
at
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
last
fall
and
when
they
discussed
this
public
storage
and
then
I
have
attended
the
other
City
Council
meetings
pertaining
to
this,
and
in
the
past
23
years,
I
have
in
Cupertino,
attended
I,
think
it
was
design,
review
and
Planning
Commission
meetings
where
we
have
discussed
signs
in
depth.
So
it
is
not
unprecedented
for
people
in
Cupertino
to
have
participated.
We
actually
worked
on
some
of
the
ones
for
some
of
the
shopping
centers.
H
That's
why
I
remember
this
and
I
was
probably
at
the
2006
or
I
thought
she
said.
16
meetings
of
that
then
again,
I
will
just
start
out
and
say
that
one
of
the
things
that
got
everyone
off
on
the
wrong
foot-
it's
nobody's
fault.
There
is
a
new
law
that
just
went
in
in
January,
where
you
cannot
have
plan
sets
shown
to
anyone
and
that
has
completely
just
kind
of
tip
the
Apple
card
over.
Nobody
knew
that
the
law
was
there.
H
Yes
and
okay,
it's
a
law
but
we're
having
to
deal
with
it
without
any
preparation
and
I
feel
like
that
tied
everyone's
hands.
The
city
council,
the
the
staff
I,
was
dumbfounded
by
it
because
I
couldn't
figure
out
there
were
no
pictures
of
the
signs,
so
I
think
and
I
I
think
the
developer
too
I
I
think
that
this
was
unfortunate,
but
this
is
the
cross
we
bear.
We
have
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
deal
with
this
new
law.
H
The
other
thing
is
that
Cupertino
did
not
have
a
Cupertino,
has
a
freeway
running
through
the
middle
of
it,
and
it
was
a
city
and
then
in
1968
280
was
put
in.
So
you
have
a
city,
that's
divided
by
a
freeway,
so
there
are
people
that
are
going
to
be
concerned
about
what
is
visible
as
you
go
through
the
city
of
Cupertino
and
head
on
up
to
Los,
Altos
or
you're,
going
south
and
hit
San
Jose
I
I
think
that
it's
very
very
important.
Now
we
have
the
dark
sky.
Ordinance.
H
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
try
to
have
a
dark
presence
as
we
go
through
Cupertino
on
280.
I,
I'm
quite
attached
to
280.
We
have
our
beautiful
Bridge
up
there,
the
that
goes
from
homestead
over
to
Mary
and
I.
Think
that
we
need
to
have
I
mean
Cupertino
to
me:
is
quality
Elegance.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
the
experience
of
going
through
Cupertino
is
as
beautiful
as
being
in
Cupertino.
H
AA
Hi,
thank
you.
My
wife
and
I
have
been
living
in
Cupertino
for
the
past
22
years.
Our
kids
were
born
here
and
yeah
I
only
recently
found
out
about
this
sign,
so
I
hope
I'm,
not
too
late,
but
we
live
in
the
the
the
Anza
porch
Condominiums
across
the
freeway,
from
the
public,
storage
building
and
yeah
one
night
I
was
just
going
to
bed
and
our
bedroom
blinds
are
open
and
I
noticed
a
bright
light
coming
from
outside
and
I
thought
it
was
like
construction
or
I,
I
I
thought
for
sure.
AA
It
was
on
our
side
of
the
freeway
because
it
was
so
bright,
but
it
yeah
it
turned
out
to
be
the
lights
from
the
hallway,
from
the
public,
storage
building
and
I
feel
like
yeah
having
another
big
sign.
There
would
just
make
it
a
lot
worse
and,
of
course,
we
can
close
our
blinds.
Some
light
does
leak
through
I
actually
have
no
problem
falling
asleep
at
night,
but
my
wife
and
our
high
school
daughter
are
more
sensitive
so,
and
another
thing
that
was
already
mentioned
was
about
the
highway
280..
AA
Then
yeah,
the
issue
about
280
was
already
brought
up.
280
along
our
stretch
of
Cupertino
is
an
official
California.
Scenic
Highway
and
most
buildings
along
280
are
painted
like
a
neutral
color
to
blend
in
with
the
scenery,
whereas
the
public
storage
building
has
bright
orange
panels
and
I
feel
like
and
also
on
scenic
highways.
AA
Billboards
are
not
allowed.
We
don't
want
to
make
it
like
101
or
880.,
and
I
feel
like
having
a
huge
sign
in
addition
to
the
orange
color,
and
all
the
hallway
lights
basically
makes
it
like
a
huge
billboard,
which
I
think
is
in
violation
of
the
spirit
of
our
Scenic
Highway
program,
so
yeah
I,
hope
I'm,
not
too
late,
but
I
ask
the
council
and
even
the
developers
to
reconsider
this
sign
and
yeah.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
S
D
AB
AB
The
illuminated
signs
are
a
health
and
safety
hazard.
If
that
is
not
possible,
I
would
ask
that
the
council
ensure
that
this
does
not
happen
again.
I
respect
the
right
of
businesses
to
make
a
good
living.
However,
businesses
have
responsibilities
to
the
communities
that
they
serve.
It
may
be
hard
to
balance
these
two
needs,
but
health
and
safety
risks
are
the
most
important
considerations.
City
policies
establish
guidance
to
help
businesses
and
residents
make
decisions.
A
strong
safety
net
is
an
imperative
for
government
to
provide
for
less
fortunate
and
vulnerable
residents
in
our
city.
AB
AB
First
I
urge
Public
Storage
management
to
consider
limiting
the
hours
that
they
leave
lights
on
to
be
in
keeping
with
the
intent
and
spirit
of
city
ordinances.
If
business
hours
end
at
9,
00
PM,
please
turn
off
lights
at
that
time.
Please
listen
to
the
people
who
are
affected
by
your
work
and
many
have
spoken.
We
want
your
storage
units.
We
want
you
to
make
a
good
living.
We
also
want
you
to
respect
the
needs
of
the
residents
and
drivers
in
and
through
our
community,
your
community
too.
AB
Secondly,
I
urge
city
council
to
direct
staff,
to
revise
the
sign
ordinance
to
strengthen
the
requirement
for
reducing
light
pollution
and
light
trespass.
This
would
prevent
harm
to
Residents
and
drivers.
The
applicant
stated
that
there
was
precedent
for
using
lighted
signs.
Wording
in
our
ordinance
must
clearly
state
that
the
fact
another
firm
has
a
lighted
sign
does
not
give
added
weight
to
the
new
request.
No
precedent
stuff
I
have
spoken
before
about
declining
biodiversity
at
city
council.
This
is
just
one.
AB
This
one
is
just
one
of
many
decisions
that
will
impact
the
health
of
our
residents
and
biodiversity.
One
indicator
of
the
damage
caused
by
light
pollution
is
that
birds
are
dying
by
the
billions
B
billions
because
of
light
pollution.
Scientists
have
warned
us
that
by
their
deaths
they
are
a
harbinger
of
the
deadly
impact
of
light
pollution
on
the
human
body.
Just
like
the
canary
in
the
coal
mine
these
birds,
untimely
deaths
can
serve
to
help
us
save
human
lives
by
limiting
light
pollution
in
closing
and
I
did
put
it
in
the
whatever.
AB
D
J
Take
a
comment,
then,
when
councilman
or
fruen
talk
ask
the
question
of
this
gentleman
about
the
nine
o'clock
shutoff
of
the
current
glaring
lights,
with
the
fake
Hall
and
fake
doors,
he
said
yes,
turning
them
off
early
would
help,
but
that
wasn't
an
answer
as
to
how
he
feels
about
an
additional
sign.
So
I
feel
like
that
may
have
been
misleading
and
I
wish
that
he
had
been
asked
that
question
as
well.
So
please
respect
the
work
done
on
behalf
of
our
community
by
Rhoda
fry.
J
J
All
this
in,
in
essence,
all
the
support
is
to
reverse
your
previous
vote,
which
I
think
was
done
under
some
form
of
duress.
That
meeting
was
very
odd
and
I.
Don't
think
you
were
getting
full
information,
you
thanks
to
Rhoda,
have
a
lot
more
now
and
I.
Just
you
need
to
understand
that
you
do
have
wiggle
room
and-
and
if
it's
let
me
put
it
this
way,
this
is
a
perfect
example
of
Give,
a
Mouse,
a
Cookie
If
You
Give,
a
Mouse,
a
Cookie
I.
J
Don't
think
that
this
developer
gives
a
kahoot
about
Cupertino
and
I.
Think
they're,
displaying
that
by
not
offering
to
compromise
and
I
I
didn't
know
that
the
sign
size
was
determined
by
just
the
lettering.
But
when
you
put,
we
can
see
how
everything
reflects
in
the
interior,
which,
by
the
way,
is
light,
trespass
and.
J
I
can't
reply,
I
think
it
was
vice
mayor
that
asked
about
dark
sky
ordinance
if
it
complies
dark
circuit,
ordinance
has
more
than
just
the
facet
use
specified.
There's
also
light,
trespass
light
trespass,
it
will
definitely
be,
and
it
already
is,
for
the
neighbors
across
the
freeway
and
motorists,
so
there's
so
much
wrong
with
this
and
I'm
so
disappointed
that
we
have
someone
that
wants
to
be
part
of
our
community
and
is
forcing
things
down
our
throat
that
no
one
wants
and
I'm
sure
they
wouldn't
want
it
in
their
own
communities.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
AC
We
did
a
couple
of
disability
studies
to
see
the
impact
from
the
freeway
really
going
on
the
280.
You
barely
see
the
property.
You
have
all
these
eucalyptus
trees
from
Caltrans
that
block
the
facility,
even
when
we
are
at
four
Stories.
The
only
point
that
we
really
see
the
top
floor
is
with
the
through
the
bridge
when
you're
driving
on
the
bridge
through
the
ends
when.
AD
P
AE
Are
all
internal
and
all
of
our
displays
are
with
faux
doors.
So
when
you're
looking
at
some
of
the
views
that
we
have
and
you
see-
storage
doors,
those
are
not
actual
storage
doors
you're
not
seeing
inside
into
the
storage
building,
we've
created,
yeah
we've
created
a
separate
space
and
those
are
lit.
By
can
lights.
AF
D
D
AG
Okay
hi
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name-
is
Vanessa
techmanski
I'm,
a
30-year
Cupertino
resident
31
years,
I,
really
like
to
think
of
any
notable
change
that
we
make
in
our
city
in
terms
of
the
benefits
added
not
only
to
our
residents
but
to
the
public
in
general
and
I.
Don't
really
understand
what
another
what
this
new
freeway
sign
does
for
anyone
other
than
maybe
the
business,
but
for
even
them,
maybe
not
because
most
people
are
going
to
use
Google
or
look
online
to
find
a
Public
Authority
the
storage
facility.
AG
I
also
thought
it
was
unfair
that,
in
the
previous
sign
consideration
the
last
meeting
that
I
didn't
feel
the
council
really
understood
on
that.
No
sign
was
one
of
their
options
and
I
don't
see
that
they
were
made
aware
that
the
business
already
had
the
one
sign
there
and
in
I
also
feel
like
the
the
canned
lights
with
the
doors
on
the
side
of
the
building.
AG
AG
We
have
graffiti
on
the
freeway
that
hasn't
been
cleaned
up
for
a
while
near
280
on
280,
near
portal
and
Blaney
I
I
think
it
just
is
really
unfitting
with
our
city
so
and,
as
I
said,
I
think
it
sets
a
really
bad
precedent,
they're
just
kind
of
squeezing
in
the
the
one
sign
and
then
the
can
light
sign.
And
now
it
seems
like
a
third
sign
so
trying
to
think.
AG
AH
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members
I
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
at
this
point
for
us
to
understand.
You
know
what
actually,
how
you
really
serve
the
public
in
terms
of
addressing
their
concerns.
So
if
you
one
of
the
slides
of
Buddha
fry,
identifies
as
consequences
of
accepting
the
sign
now,
it
says
public
nuisance,
health,
hazard
safety,
hazard,
excessive
energy
use,
light
pollution,
so
I
think
what
we
need
to
understand
is
this
not
only
affects
human
species,
it
affects
other
species
as
well,
because
we
are
by
Nature.
AH
AH
But
what
I
want
to
say
is
that
whenever
a
certain
resolution
comes
up,
especially
as
a
denovo
kind
of
thing,
where
you
know
they
have
a
right
to
appeal,
one
has
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
consequences
of
what
your
actions
could
be
and
in
this
case
is
very
much
there.
I
mean
you.
You
have
literally
opened
the
doors
for
every
other
business
to
come
back
and
overrule
whatever
is
done
by
the
Planning
Commission.
AH
So
I
would
request
that
please
revisit
sign,
Auditors
and
make
it
as
tight
as
possible
so
that
consequences
of
the
sign
are
are
addressed
before
you
approve
us
anything
which
is
related
to
sign
up
signing.
So
that's
one
thing:
I
would
definitely
appreciate
to
see
from
the
council.
The
other
thing
is,
there
are
different
kinds
of
business
types.
You
know
there
are
some
businesses
which
require.
You
know,
visibility
at
night.
This
is
not
one
of
those.
AH
You
are
not
going
to
drive
by
public
storage
and
say:
oh,
it's
eight
o'clock
in
the
night
you
go
there
and
you
say:
let's
go
and
kind
of
you
know,
do
something
at
nine
o'clock
or
ten
o'clock
you're
not
going
to
do
that
they
have
their
own
business
hours.
So
that's
another
thing.
I
would
like
you
to
point
out
that
there
are
different
business
type.
There
are
some
which
do
want
which
operate
in
the
night
time
as
well.
You
know
they
have
a
reason
to
have
more
signage,
but
this
is
not
the
one.
AH
The
third
one
another
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is,
though,
we
only
take
the
lettering
in
our
sign.
If
there's
a
bright,
till
IT
background,
I
think
that
should
be
included,
and
we
you
should
turn
this
down
there.
You
know
in
Cupertino
has
the
benefit
of
having
world's
best
business.
The
Apple
computer.
Look
at
that
they
are,
they
are.
They
are
not
selling
themselves
by
science.
They
are,
they
are
never
trying
to
make
their
footprint.
Look
that
odd,
so
I
think
from
that
point
of
view,
I
would
request.
AH
Please
enact
take
a
sign
ordinance
as
quickly
as
possible
and
please
do
not
set
in
motion
any
domino
effect
so
that
other
businesses
will
rush
to
the
city
council
to
get
certain
concessions
which
they
are
whenever
they
feel
little
offended.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
hope
everything
is
taken
into
consideration.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AI
Good
evening,
mayor
way
vice
mayor,
Mohan
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Annie
Yang
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
the
environmental
action
committee
of
the
Santa
Clara
Valley,
Audubon,
Society,
I'm,
also
a
resident
of
Cupertino.
We
are
against
adding
this
large
illuminated
illuminated
science.
This
building,
as
you
know,
artificial
light
at
night
has
become
a
serious
Hazard
to
humans,
wildlife
and
the
ecosystem.
AI
We
know
that
the
city
takes
light
pollution
seriously,
as
evidenced
by
our
dark
sky
ordinance.
So
we
hope
that
you
can
find
a
way
to
prevent
this
illuminated
sign
from
polluting
our
city,
whether
or
not
that
is
possible.
We
also
encourage
you
to
revise
the
sign
code
such
that
that
this
situation
doesn't
occur
in
the
future.
AI
Finally,
we
encourage
the
city
to
always
consider
supporting
biodiversity
in
conditions
of
approval
and
the
permitting
process.
This
is
accomplished
in
many
different
ways
from
thinking
about
the
illumination
that
comes
from
businesses
and
developments
to
using
native
plants
and
landscaping,
for
example,
if
we
think
about
supporting
biodiversity
as
a
value
in
all
we
do,
we
will
incur
ensure
that
we
are
supporting
a
healthy
Urban
ecosystem
that
benefits
both
wildlife
and
us,
as
residents.
Thank.
D
L
Good
evening,
council
members
and
staff
I'm
going
to
try
and
match
the
grounds
to
the
reasons
one
offer
a
relevant
evidence
excluded
at
prior
City
hearing
the
fact
that
there
were
only
those
two
wall
signs
directly
facing
them
and
it
wasn't
mentioned
I'm
not
saying
that
you
didn't
notice
them
that
they
were
too
far,
but
they
were
facing
and
the
staff
should
have
mentioned
and
mentioned
it.
The
Omission
that
the
exam
wall
sign
is
actually
a
freeway
oriented
sign.
L
Gian
said
it
was
a
judgment
call
before
it
was
installed,
but
after
it
was
installed,
it
resulted
in
a
freeway
oriented
sign
because
it
is
very
much
visible.
This
should
have
been
mentioned
to
inform
the
council,
even
though
it's
not
quote
freeway
oriented
by
the
permit,
how
the
square
footage
of
the
sign
was
measured.
Nothing
was
said,
the
square
footage
was
only
the
letters
lighted,
thus
the
existing
sign,
which
is
51
square
feet,
and
the
proposed
sign,
which
is
three
times
that
size,
but
they
have
the
same.
L
Letters-
means
that
this
new
proposed
sign
is
going
to
be
three
times
the
size
of
what
now
lit
up
past
Behavior.
The
owners
can
constant
violation
of
the
sign,
ordinance
and
writing
regarding
the
building,
and
the
existing
sign
should
have
rounds
on
whether
or
not
you
allow
them
to
have
another.
One
Council
city
council
failed
to
provide
a
fair
hearing.
L
It
was
not
clear
by
the
planning.
Commission's
denial
was
invalid.
The
exploration
did
not
address.
Why
specifying
the
minimizing
extraction
to
motorists
was
an
invalid
reason.
The
scenic
highway
the
Dark
Skies
was
quoted,
but
the
part
about
distracting
motorists
wasn't
addressed
after
the
break
city
manager.
Wu
discussed
the
three
findings
you
that
you
required
a
b
and
c,
but
the
municode
that
was
displayed
was
wrong.
It
was
confusing
the
actual
design
criteria.
L
19.104
220
was
never
in
the
staff
report
or
presented.
The
council
was
told
they
had
to
approve
one
of
the
signs
when
in
actuality
he
could
have
found
it
not
me.
The
design
criteria,
city
council,
abused
its
discretion,
rendering
a
decision
which
findings
a
fact
were
not
supported
by
evidence.
There
was
no
evidence.
The
city
council
assumed
that
the
Cupertino
Hotel
sign
was
similar
to
the
public
storage
side,
but
nothing
was
presented
or
to
justify
this.
The
council
decided,
based
on
using
this
assumption,
please
reconsider
this.
Thank
you.
O
O
You
know
they
have
coyotes
and
boxes,
and
you
know
owls
and
nature,
and
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
stood
out
from
the
last
meeting
was
the
municipal
code
and
how
it
was
supposed
to
blend
in
or
conform
to
the
neighborhood
to
the
residential
neighborhood
I,
don't
see
how
this
does
conform
to
it
and
I
know.
It
was
mentioned
several
times
in
this
meeting
that
it's
non-relevant
because
it
does
conform
to
the
other
municipal
code.
O
I,
don't
see
how
also
it
was
kind
of
confusing
during
the
last
meeting,
because
there
was
a
break
and
there
was
a
insinuation
that
the
city
council
had
no
jurisdiction.
They
just
had
to
vote
for
one.
We
couldn't
I'm
having
a
hard
time
just
finding
where
that
is
stated
and
the
staff
report
from
the
last
meeting,
but
whatever
it
is
I'm.
O
You
know
we
have
a
new
city
manager,
I'm,
not
sure
if
Gian
was
around
for
the
last
meeting,
but
I
I
kind
of
feel
like
we
can
step
back
and
take
a
look
at
whether
or
not
this
is
actually
conformed
and
should
have
been
approved
or
if
it
was
a
confu
confusion
from
previous
from
predecessor
that
had
approved
it.
It
was
from
my
perception
like
it
was
already
approved.
O
There
was
nothing
no
further
discussion,
but
there
was,
and
so
I'd
like
to
point
that
out
and
see
if
that
could
be
reconsidered,
because
that
would
account
for
data
that
was
not
presented.
That
should
have
been
presented,
something
else.
I
heard
and
I
know,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
actually
a
a
factor,
but
if
it
is
I
did
research
a
little
bit
and
I'm,
not
a
lawyer.
O
So
I
couldn't
tell
you
if
this
is
all
the
data,
but
freedom
of
speech
was
mentioned
as
some
a
reason
why
a
sign
had
to
be
approved
and
I'm
not
sure
how
this
would
be.
But,
regarding
that
matter
of
freedom
of
speech,
there's
a
quote:
does
freedom
of
speech
include
signage
Justin
Stevens
delivered
the
opinion
of
the
unanimous
court
with
Justice
O'connor
filing
a
concurring
opinion.
O
Stevens
first
noted
that
signs
are
a
form
of
expression
protected
by
the
First
Amendment,
but
he
also
said
signs
pose
special
problems
that
are
subject
to
government
regulation,
so
they
can't
just
do
whatever
they
want.
Otherwise
we
wouldn't.
Why
have
immunicode
if
they
could?
Anyone
and
everyone
could
say
they
had
freedom
of
speech?
Another
quote
I
have
is
First.
Amendment
forbids
a
government
to
regulate
speech
such
as
signage
Shen
anyway,
favor
some
viewpoints
or
ideas,
so
this
would
be
relevant
to
some
idea,
not
just
promotion
of
the
business.
O
K
That
evidence
was
not
produced
at
the
previous
hearing,
so
on
the
first
basis
for
reconsideration,
I
would
like
to
offer
that
impacted
residents
were
not
old
and
their
feedback
was
not
submitted
to
Europe
on
the
second
criteria,
an
offer
of
relevant
evidence
which
was
improperly
excluded
at
any
private
City.
Hearing.
I
would
like
to
submit
to
you
that
the
question
that
council
member
Taylor
just
asked
of
Staff
as
to
why
they
did
not
bring
up
that
there
was
an
existing
three-way
facing
sign
and
the
reaction
to
that
which
was
in
their
judgment.
K
City
staff
made
no
effort.
Absolutely
none
collect
input
from
the
impacted
residents
and
denied
a
fair
hearing
to
the
residents
that
were
impacted
and
so
on.
The
fifth
proof
of
facts,
which
demonstrated
the
city
council,
abused
its
discretion
by
not
preceding
a
manner
required
by
law,
renting
a
decision
which
is
not
supported
by
findings
of
fact
and
rendering
a
decision
makes.
The
funding
is
a
fact,
but
not
supported
by
evidence.
There
was
no
evidence
again
are
from
impacted
residents
and
there
was
no
data
gathered
on
the
actual
impact
of
lighting
on
the
freeway
signs.
K
In
fact,
City
attorney
even
admitted
that
Caltrans
Scenic
Highway
regulations
was
not
something
he
had
looked
at.
That
is
a
world
record
on
the
previous
call.
So
I
would
like
you
to
consider
each
of
these
points
that
I
went
through
and
please
deny
the
previous
signage
and
approve
the
reconsideration.
Thank.
X
I,
don't
I'm
on
okay.
Well,
this
was
a
new
ground
for
me,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity.
Obviously,
as
you
can
tell,
this
issue
has
galvanized
our
community
who
share
my
visceral
reaction
to
this
abomination.
Why
weren't?
The
most
impacted
residents
notified?
How
can
Public
Storage
get
a
second
freeway
oriented
sign
when
they're
allowed?
To
only
have
one
I
want
to
repeat
the
general
plan's
North
De
Anza
special
area
as
designated
for
office
and
residential
I
think
that
they
need
to
be,
and
you
also
need
to
look
at
the
whole.
X
The
sign
is
on
the
building.
You
need
to
make
it
compatible.
Also
years
ago
we
had
massive
truck
traffic.
There
is
a
connection
here
between
the
two
quarries,
the
city,
county
and
Sheriff,
said
insisted
that
it
was
okay,
it
wasn't
and
I
provided
the
information
to
the
city
why
it
wasn't
and
they
put
an
end
to
it,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
I
got
the
public
safety
word
for
from
the
city
of
Cupertino
in
2022.
You
need
to
put
an
end
to
this.
X
The
lights
on
the
hallways
serve
no
purpose
other
than
to
advertise
a
building.
It
is
a
sign
it
is
not.
Okay.
I
would
like
to
clarify
my
understanding
that
the
dark
sky
ordinance
does
not
apply
to
signs,
so
you
can
say:
oh
yeah,
all
signs
are,
you
know,
dark
sky
compliant
because
it
just
doesn't
apply.
X
I
also
requested
the
city
staff
bring
in
10
square
feet
of
250
Lamberts,
and
then
you
can
determine
for
yourself
whether
it's
bright
or
not
give
the
residents
who
are
affected
the
highest
priority
in
addressing
the
current
and
future
light
pollution.
Have
you
also
considered
their
economic
laws
Supply
in
property
value?
That
is
mentioned
in
the
public
comments
that
you
received
today?
Please
read
them,
there's
an
easy,
easy
solution,
turn
off
the
lights.
Thank
you.
B
Does
the
applicant
want
to
speak
up?
No
okay?
So
if
there's
no
more
speakers
and
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
comment
close
to
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
the
council
for
discussion,
we
each
have
five
minutes
to.
You
know
make
our
comments,
because
I
think
we've
heard
a
lot,
and
this
is
our
second
time
hearing
it.
Councilmember
Moore.
P
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
am
looking
at
the
staff
report
from
February
7th
and
it
says
per
the
sign
ordinance.
All
wall
or
building
mounted
signs
proposed
within
660
feet
of
a
landscaped
freeway,
measured
from
edge
of
right-of-way
and
oriented
towards
the
freeway,
must
be
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission,
so
that
sign
should
have
gone
to
the
Planning
Commission
according
to
in
that
sign,
meaning
the
one
on
the
east
end
of
the
building
should
have
gone
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
I.
P
W
P
W
W
If
you
look
at
that
same
section
of
the
ordinance,
if
that,
if
a
freeway
oriented
sign,
is
not
exclusively
visible
from
a
freeway,
rather
it's
visible,
also
from
a
street
or
right
away,
whether
in
fee
or
an
easement
that
is
approved
by
CDD
staff.
So
would
not
have
to
go
to
plan
a
commission
in
either
way.
P
Okay
and
it's
visible
from
the
freeway,
so
it's
freeway
oriented
so
I
think
that
that
decision,
what
what?
What
method
could
counsel
or
member
of
the
public
have
been
able
to
appeal
that
decision
like
when,
when
would
the
public
have
been
informed
that
that
decision
happened,
so
it
could
have
been
contested
because
I
I,
don't
I.
Personally,
don't
agree
with
with
that.
P
With
with
what
happened
there,
I
I,
don't
I
drive
on
the
280
I
see
that
sign
it
catches
my
eye.
It's
it's
always
been
dark,
and
so
it's
that's
generally
how
signs
are
placed
when
you're
going
along
a
freeway
or
a
highway
they're
placed
perpendicular
to
the
roadway.
So
to
you
know
the
the
Caltrans
doesn't
put
their
signs
parallel
to
the
freeway.
They
run
them
perpendicularly
so
that
you'll
you'll
spot
them.
S
19.104.200,
which
discusses
freeway
orientation
and
the
municipal
code,
there
is
a
table
there
that
provides
who
the
Authority
for
approval
is
for
both
with
respect
to
a
sign
that
is
oriented
to
the
regular
Street
system
adjoining
the
property,
rather
than
exclusively
visible
from
the
freeway.
The
approval
Authority
is
CDD
if
it
is
a
freeway
orientation.
Otherwise,
then
it
would
be
the
Planning
Commission.
E
According
to
this
definition,
in
our
code
and
the
California
business
professional
code,
sign
one
is
a
freeway
oriented
sign
here
is
a
map,
and
then
the
red
rectangle
here
is
sine
one
and
if
you
are
driving
facing
on
the
west
or
north
to
80.,
that
sign
is
very
visible,
not
only
just
visible,
even
with
trees.
It's
visible,
okay,
so
sign
one.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
it's
approved
as
freeway
sign
or
not.
E
It's
a
freeway,
already
side
per
our
code
and
California
Business
and
Professional
code.
Therefore,
we
had
inaccurate
information
from
the
staff
report
on
February
7th,
which
claimed
sign.
1
is
not
a
freeway
oriented
sign
and,
as
a
result,
we
were
told
with
their.
They
are
allowed
maximum
two
signs,
and
then
we
had
I
think
we
were
given
accurate
information
in
our
decision
and
also
this
is
the
approval
condition
for
this.
E
Development
lighting
for
development
should
not
spill
over
to
other
joining
property,
and
also
there
are
other
conditions
that
it
should
be
harmonious
to
the
neighborhood
and
the
zone,
and
here
is
the
front
of
the
building
and
then
the
brightness
is
not
harmonious
to
the
building,
and
this
is
the
information
I
did
not
have
on
February,
7th
and
I.
Think
council
member
Moore
mentioned
it
at
the
time
I
drove
by
the
property
afterwards.
E
Finding
the
windows
on
very
bright
but
I
didn't
see
this
side,
and
then
I
didn't
see
this
until
last
Wednesday
when
I
went
on
site
with
the
petitioner.
That's
when
I
realized.
If
you
are
living
across
from
the
Sun,
how
bright
it
is
and
I
visited
the
condos
also
and
then,
if
you
view
it
across
from
the
condo,
the
current
interior
light
is
already
very
bright.
Adding
on
top
a
sign
is
extremely
bright.
That's
something
that
we
have
not
ever
seen
in
Cupertino
and
the
approval
condition
was
the
building
should
emulate
an
office
building.
E
This
does
not
emulate
or
office
building,
because
in
office
building
lights
are
shining
down
to
the
desk
working
area.
It
doesn't
interior
light.
Doesn't
go
ahead
shine
towards
outside,
but
the
interior
light
of
this
building
is
facing
outwards,
which
is
not
like
an
office
building,
and
it's
supposed
to
be
harmonious
with
adjusting
structure.
It's
not
according
to
and
also
I
did
not
understand
what
it's
meant
by
illuminated
science
at
the
time.
E
I
thought
illumination
is
kind
of
like
what's
seeing
on
the
left
here
on
some
kind
of
Illumination
just
enough,
so
people
can
see
the
sign
but
turns
out
for
Public
Storage.
The
entire
letter
is
a
light
tube,
so
it's
very
very
bright.
So
imagine
if
you
wait
a
long
one,
there
could
be
10
20
along
Cupertino.
Is
that
something
we
want
I
think
also.
We
didn't
know
that
and
I
think
we
did
not
notify
the
residents
our
Municipal
Code
actually
says.
E
E
I
would
like
to
ask,
while
the
recourse
is
there
if
the
council
decision
was
based
on
inaccurate
or
unavailable
information,
and
what
records
is
there
if
the
our
current
design
criteria
on
paper
is
not
sufficient
to
regulate
the
lighted
tube
LED
signs
that
we
see
here,
I
did
not
know
the
impact
until
I
see
it.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
P
Okay,
thank
you
so
also
looking
in
the
previous
staff
report,
I
could
not
find
the
19.104.220
C
and
G
findings
explicitly
made
and
I
know
in
the
in
the
previous
meeting.
I
said
that
I
could
not
make
those
two
findings.
So
question
for
the
City
attorney
is
if,
if
three
of
the
council
were
all
in
agreement,
that
they
couldn't
make
the
findings
of
C
and
G
at
that
time,
would
that
have
been
adequate
to
have
denied
this
appeal.
G
G
There
is
new
evidence
that
exists
and
B
that
it
could
not
have
been
produced
with
reasonable
diligence
at
the
prior
hearing
after
that,
council
could
would,
if
Council
were
able
to
make
that
finding
or
one
of
the
other
for
of
the
total
five
findings
in
the
reconsideration
process.
Council
would
be
able
to
consider
those
the
the
findings
in
the
side
ordinance
and
if
it,
if
it
concludes
tonight,
that
those
findings
can
cannot
be
made
and
they're.
You
know
and
there's
substantial
evidence
to
support
that
decision.
P
P
Well,
it's
it's
with
regards
to
producing
a
distraction
that
wear
in
the
packet,
and
maybe
this
is
for
staff
where
in
the
packet
did
it
show
accurate,
Renditions
and
and
I
had
asked
to
continue
this
this
item.
So
we
could
get
that
information
and
it
wasn't,
it
wasn't
provided
so
we
were.
We
were
truly
missing
that
information
and
and
I
tried
to
point
this
out
and
I.
You
know
I
failed,
but
going
back
to
CNG.
P
Q
B
I
think
there
is
sort
of
agreement
that
this
I
may
is
not
a
favorite
of
the
community,
but
I
want
to
reinforce
by
saying
we're
elected
officials.
We
don't
make
rules,
we
make
rules,
but
we
have
to
follow
our
own
rules.
Like
Tessa
Parish
just
say
we
have
government
regulations.
Why
do
we
have
government
regulations
because
for
us
to
follow,
we
have
to
follow
our
own
laws?
If
we
don't
like
our
own
laws,
we
can
change
it.
You
can
change
our
City
municipal
codes.
We
can
change
our
city
ordinance.
We
can
change
our
objective
standards.
B
I
feel
like
that.
My
hands
are
a
little
tight
here
because
we
are
doing
a
reconsideration
and
there
are
no
new
facts.
As
for
the
lighting,
the
color,
the
lighting
that
council
member
Moore
mentioned
I
I
used
the
objective
standards
that
the
the
the
how
big
the
letter
is,
how
light
what
lighting
is
one
third
of
what
our
our
Municipal
codes
allows.
So
everything
is
within
our
own
rules.
Our
own
Municipal
codes,
I
wanted
say
that
I
wish
I
hope
I.
Could
we
could
make
any
decisions
that
we
love
to
make?
B
B
So
I
would
like
to
stop
this
okay,
so
but
I
I
feel
that
at
this
point
at
this
particular
item
it
is
very
hard
for
me
to
say
just
because
we
don't
like
it
that
we're
not
going
to
follow
our
own
Municipal
codes,
our
own
regulations,
for
example,
if
you're
remodeling
your
own
home,
you
you're
doing
everything
according
to
what
city
codes
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
somebody
said:
I,
don't
like
it,
so
I,
don't
care
whether
you
comply
to
city
codes
or
not.
You
can't
do
it.
B
I
think
that's
unfair
to
anybody,
but
we
we
could
not
let
this
happen
again
when
this
project
was
approved,
2019
I
think
none
of
us
are
on
Council,
maybe
Council
Mormons,
a
council
member
Chow
was
encounter,
but
the
design
and
everything
is,
is
not
what
we
maybe.
What
not?
What
we
anticipated
as
for
the
lighting
indoor
lighting,
that's
light
up
until
midnight
or
after
midnight,
that
is
a
code
violation
and
our
staff
are
not
lying
they're,
just
we're
just
our
code.
B
Code
Enforcement
have
to
go
out
and
and
do
code
enforcement
and
I
I
think
we
are
doing
that
right
now.
So
that
is
not
going
to
happen.
It's
not
our
staff's
fault.
It's
the
business
or
residents
can
also
have
that
code
violation.
We
have
a
loan
blower
thing
that
you
cannot
blow
it
this
way
in
that
way,
and
then
we,
you
know
our
city
code
enforcement,
do
go
out
and
enforce
to
our
residents
too.
So
that
is
another
matter.
That
is
not
what
we're
considering
right
now.
B
I
I
would
love
if
I
can
say:
let's
not,
let's
reverse
this,
whether
we
gonna
follow
our
own
laws
or
not
I
feel
that
I
I
can
do
it,
but
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
happen
again.
I
do
think
the
council
is
very
aware
of
it
that
we
are
going
to
do
something
to
our
science
ordinance
to
make
sure
when
our
city
moves
forward
with
more
developments.
This
doesn't
happen
again:
I
do
not
want
a
whether
it's
a
freeway
facing
or
Steven's
Creek
facing
with
big
signs
of
their
advertising
for
anything
during
night.
B
So
I
think
we
can
stop
it.
I
actually
am
very
I.
Do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
rotify
for
all
your
work
and
your
study
and
and
all
the
wrestlers
that
bring
this
to
the
council's
attention.
We
need
your
help.
You
you're
helping
us
to
you
know,
move
forward,
making
a
good
decision
that
this
doesn't
happen
again
and
I
have
58
seconds.
B
I
do
want
to
say
for
businesses,
Goodwill
counts
a
lot
I,
don't
think
Public
Storage
heard
us,
but
they
probably
heard
us
tonight
if
they
could
show
Good
Will
and
help
our
wrestlers
I
think
you'll
get
more
business
than
having
a
sign
light
up
there,
all
night,
long
and
or
up
to
11
o'clock
I
do
think
business
and
Goodwill
and
work
with
the
community
is
a
plus
for
any
business
to
be
in
the
community.
Make
it
your
community.
B
Even
though,
if
we
revise
our
signed
audience,
we
could
not
regulate
you,
but
I
hope
that
in
the
in
the
goodness
of
what
I'm
working
with
the
community,
it
will
bring
you
more
business
than
having
the
light
up
until
11
o'clock
or
or
Beyond.
So
that
that's
my
that's
my
comment.
Thank
you
and
council
member
froon
and
westmin
Mohan.
V
V
This
the
the
light,
the
the
in
indoor
light
of
the
the
building,
the
the
side
light
with
the
white
lettering
and
but
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
we
are
here
to
uphold
the
law
and
uphold
the
the
municipal
court.
So
we
don't
really
have
too
much
leeway
in
terms
of
changing
the
code
or
making
modifications
as
it
stands
now.
That
is
something
for
the
future
and
I
hope.
S
Sure
I
have
really
one
more
follow-up
question
for
the
the
City
attorney
with
respect
to
council
member
chao's
invocation
of
the
business
and
professions
code
and
its
definitions
of
visibility
from
the
freeway.
Irrespective
of
that,
we
would
still,
as
a
city
be
able
to
determine
which
approval
Authority
within
the
city
would
be
able
to
decide
that
a
freeway-oriented
sign
is
going
to
be
approved
or
not.
Yes,.
S
So
again,
I
will
repeat
that
the
we
do
have
a
specific
provision
of
the
municipal
code.
That
indicates
who
the
approval
Authority
is
for
a
freeway-oriented
sign,
regardless
of
whether
it
is
exclusively
visible
from
the
freeway
or
not,
and
in
this
case,
if
it
is
not
exclusively
designed
to
be
exclusively
visible
from
the
freeway
and
is
adjoining
a
a
regular
straight
system,
then
the
approval
Authority
would
be
CDD.
That's
clear
in
our
code,
I
think
we
need
to
uphold
our
code,
so
I
will
underscore
what
both
the
mayor
and
the
vice
mayor
have
said.
S
You
know
we
we
have
the
municipal
code,
we
should
be
following
the
municipal
code.
The
municipal
code
I
think
in
this
case
moves
us
only
in
One
Direction.
We
have
five
grounds
that
we
can
consider
for
reconsideration.
This
is
not
a
re-hearing
de
novo,
so
we
are
not
here
reassessing
what
the
law
is
or
what
the
facts
are.
AH
S
I've
tried
lots
of
different
creative
arguments
that
I
have
passed
by
the
City
attorney
I'm
sure
I
annoyed
him
to
no
end
the
term.
Creative
is
not
a
positive
one
in
the
practice
of
law,
it
is
usually
an
epithet,
but
I
tried
it
nonetheless
and
I
came
to
know
no
additional
useful
conclusion.
That
would
allow
me
to
find
a
reason
that
would
be
supported
by
substantial
evidence
that
would
allow
us
to
support
the
petition
for
reconsideration.
S
R
S
Think
it
is
especially
important
because
we
know
that
the
city
will
densify,
that
there
are
buildings
that
will
be
taller
and
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
feel
good
about
the
city
that
we
live
in,
that
we
drive
through
that
we
walk
through
Etc.
So,
where
signs
are
how
bright,
they
are,
what
kind
of
light
pollution
we
see
in
the
city
that
we
are
containing
that
in
a
way
that
is
appropriate
to
the
applicant
I,
will
reiterate
also
the
points
that
have
been
made
by
my
colleagues.
S
You
have
a
choice
as
to
what
kind
of
neighbor
you
want
to
be,
and
I
would
really
hate
for
your
legacy
to
be
that
we
had
to
revisit
a
whole
host
of
things
in
our
municipal
code
in
order
to
regulate
what
this
one
building
does
to
those
neighbors
who
are
most
directly
affected.
I
am
an
open
door
to
you.
Let's
talk
about,
what's
going
to
help
make
this
better
for
you
if
it
means
that
you
need
more
screening,
I
am
very
open
to
a
discussion.
Thank
you
very
much.
AJ
P
W
B
P
Okay,
so
I
actually
side
with
the
petitioner
here,
I
move
that
we
accept
the
petition
for
reconsideration,
because
the
petitioners
demonstrated.
The
decision
was
not
supported
by
findings
of
fact
regarding
19.104.220
CNG,
particularly
with
regards
to
what
the
signage
looks
like
and
impacts
from
various
views
on
the
freeway
and
the
explanation
of
these
subdivisions
was
not
adequately
made
and
that
the
petitioner
provided
new
information
not
provided
at
an
earlier
hearing,
namely
that
the
freeway-oriented
sign
already
in
place
fulfilled
the
allowance
for
the
freeway
oriented
signage.
P
Yes,
I
already
have
said
that,
with
regards
to
what
the
signage
looks
like
and
the
impacts
from
the
various
views
on
the
freeway
and
the
explanation
of
the
subdivisions
was
not
adequately
made.
So
you
had
heard
me
ask
about
subdivision.
C
and
G.
I
still
do
not
have
a
clarification
about
about
those
two
and
lastly,
that
the
petitioner
provided
new
information,
namely
that
it
was
a
freeway
oriented
sign
which
it's
fitting
the
definition.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
you
can
see
I'm
trying
very
hard
here
to
you
know,
to
make
myself
decide
on
something
and
I
hope.
The
public
knows
that
you
do
want
your
council
members
that
you
let
council
members
follow
laws
and
we
we
may
have
different
perceptions
of
of
what
laws
government
regulations
are
on
municipals,
so
I'm
trying
really
hard
to
understand
the
council
member
Moore's
point
of
view.
Okay,
thank
you.
P
B
D
B
E
B
B
E
E
So
here
motion
to
approve
the
reconsideration
petition,
based
on
the
following
fact:
typo
the
fact
that
the
definition
of
freeway
signs
and
visible
were
not
made
available
to
the
council
in
the
last
meeting.
The
fact
that
sign
1
is
a
freeway
facing
sign
according
to
Cupertino
municipal
code
and
California
Business
and
Professional
code
was
not
made
available.
The
fact
that
the
development
already
has
one
freeway
facing
sign
was
not
mentioned.
E
The
fact
that
the
council
did
not
know
sign
2
will
be
the
second
freeway
sign
and
the
fact
that
there
was
no
information
that
the
science
faced
the
condos
across
280
and
there's
no.
There
was
no
information
on
its
impact.
The
fact
that
the
council,
the
city,
did
not
do
our
due
diligence
to
notify
the
residents
beyond
the
minimum
requirement
to
include
the
residents
residential
developments
nearby,
who
will
be
significantly
impacted
by
the
science
at
the
discretion
of
the
community
and
Development
Department,
as
required
as
Allowed
by
our
municipal
code,
and
we
didn't
do
that.
E
E
Exercise
of
reasonable
diligence
could
not
have
been
produced
at
an
earlier
City
hearing.
I
believe
this
exercise
of
reasonable
geologies
is
a
subjective
on
evaluation.
So,
in
my
assessment
we
did
not
exercise
with
even
with
exercise
exercise
of
reasonable
diligence.
Last
time
we
I
could
we
could
not
have
made
those
findings
that
I
have
just
stated
as
facts
and
second
offer
of
relevant
evidence
which
was
improperly
excluded
at
an
early
prior
City
hearing
I
think
we
had
inaccurate
information.
E
Think
here
I
could
add
that
council
member
mentioned
the
division
CND
from
the
last
meeting
or
we
didn't
have
sufficient
finding
at
the
time
and
that
rent
we
rendered
the
decision
in
which
the
findings
of
fact
were
not
supported
by
evidence
and
I.
Think
we
didn't
have
enough
evidence
at
the
time
to
support
that
decision.
We
made
so
that's
my
motion.
R
S
The
back
up
on
the
screen
and
scroll
up
so
I
I
think
we've
addressed
every
single
one
of
these
issues
already
the
very
first
one
is
simply
not
relevant
to
the
discussion
per
the
discussion
that
we
had
a
moment
ago.
The
fact
that
sign
one
is
a
freeway
facing
sign
according
we've,
already
again,
we've
addressed,
who
has
the
approval
Authority
in
this
matter,
and
whether
or
not
we
need
to
make
a
decision
that
would
be
relevant
here,
that's
discussed
in
the
municipal
code.
It's
very
clear.
S
S
With
respect
to
a
number
of
the
other
comments
here,
we
we
in
our
own
diligence,
either
walking
the
property
going
out
and
taking
a
look
at
the
space
could
have
known
most
of
the
facts
that
you
are
describing.
If
those
facts
are
substantial
to
be
able
to
deny
the
sign
in
the
first
instance,
so
I
and
I
disagree
emphatically
that
the
idea
that
that
this
expression
in
the
exercise
of
reasonable
diligence
is
subjective,
the
the
expression,
reasonable
diligence
is
a
trigger
word
in
the
law
for
a
a
an
objective
standard.
S
E
So
I
I
did
not
argue
well,
who
is
should
be
the
approving
authority
of
sign
one
or
not,
and
it's
already
approved
I
know
sign.
One
is
not
at
the
issue
here,
but
the
important
fact
is
there
is
already
one
we
are
on.
The
table
is
whether
to
approve
a
second
freeway
sign.
That
fact
was
not
mentioned
in
the
last
hearing,
because
we
didn't
know
the
existing
sign
is
already
freeway
facing,
and
the
staff
report
has
an
error.
E
B
W
That
was
our.
That
was
our
recommendation
at
the
time.
That
was
our
decision
at
the
time
and
our
interpretation
of
the
sign
at
the
time,
and
you
know
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
findings.
You
know
that
was
this
was
a
fact
that
could
have
been
brought
up
by
a
member
of
the
public
and
was
not
at
the
time.
So
it
was,
and
these
were
available
to
the
public
to
bring
up.
B
So
yeah,
so
my
my
questions,
I
I
really
want
to
follow
the
law.
I
I
really
want
to
say
we
should.
We
could
deny
this,
but
I
I
do
feel
that
everything
that
said
on
council,
member
Charles
it
could
have
been
brought
up
or
we
should
have
do
our
we
we
could
have-
or
we
should
have
do
our
due
diligence
and
and
end
of
first
hearing
access.
B
P
It
would
be
an
Ingress,
egress,
easement
I
believe
because
it's
not
a
the
road
that
you
go
to
get
to
Public
Storage
is
not
a
regular
Street
by
any
means,
and
that
also
you
know
we
were
not
informed
about
that,
and
it
was
only
when
I
pulled
up
the
map
and
noticed
that
it's
not
showing
up
on
our
land
use
map
as
being
the
city
street.
That's
that's.
P
The
first
I've
learned
that
it's
not
so
I
would
my
interpretation
of
this
code,
oriented
to
the
regular
Street
system
would
be
that
the
sign
was
oriented
towards
Valley,
Green,
drive
itself
or
or
North
dance,
a
Boulevard,
so
I
think
there's
yet
even
more
information
that
we
were
not
given
so
I
I.
This
is
a
freeway
oriented
sign.
That
is
not
a
regular
Street.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
P
W
E
E
If
you
vote
no,
that
means
you
100
doesn't
think
any
one
of
these
is
true
and
then
I
would
like
to
say
that
John
mentioned
the
the
staff
at
the
time
didn't
think
it's
a
freeway
facing
sign,
but
I
think
he
did
not
say
this.
After
reading
this
code,
they
have
a
different
someone
could
interpret
actually
should
Implement
interpret
that
sign.
One
is
a
freeway
oriented
sign
per
code.
We
need
to
follow
the
code
like
mayor
said.
Our
code
clearly
said
sign.
1
should
have
been
a
freeway
sign.
E
Q
For
the
mayor,
if
I
may
point
out
the
clarification,
so
this
is
a
definition
that
CDD
has
implemented
to
interpret,
which
sign
is
a
freeway
oriented
site.
So
the
sign
that
you
are
seeing
on
the
building
has
been
approved
by
CDD
administratively,
and
that's
why
it
was
not
included
in
the
staff
report
for
you
to
consider
the
approval
of
that
three-way
phasing
sign
in
February,
and
this
is
an
interpretation
that
has
been
implemented
by
CDD
staff
to
regulate
all
other
signs.
B
R
AA
E
B
A
B
B
B
B
AJ
AJ
AJ
At
the
May
2018
at
the
May
18
2022
bicycle
pedestrian
commission
meeting
the
commission
recommended
that
staff
research
potential
names
develop
a
survey
based
on
findings
and
conduct
public
Outreach
at
the
February
23rd
2023
bicycle
pedestrian
Commission
meeting
the
pub
the
commission
endorsed
the
Top
Choice
selected
by
the
public,
which
is
the
tamian
Inu.
The
tamian
trail.
AJ
Survey
research,
so
staff
worked
in
collaboration
with
the
tamian
nation,
the
Cupertino
Historical
Society,
the
stockholmeyer
library
at
De,
Anza
College
and
staff
also
reviewed
Publications
from
the
San
Francisco
Estuary
Institute,
and
the
Cupertino
Chronicle.
From
that
research.
Seven
options
emerged.
AJ
So
the
survey
naming
options,
the
seven
options
that
emerged
within
the
four
categories
are
as
follows:
based
on
location
option,
one,
the
I-280
trail
based
on
Tami
and
Nation
option;
2
tamian
Inu
option
three
room:
Inu
River
Trail,
based
on
historical
vegetation
based
on
historical
vegetation
of
the
West
Santa
Clara
Valley
option
for
Chaparral
Trail
option.
Five
is
Punta
de
rovlar
point
of
the
Oak
Grove
Trail
and
based
on
historic
Cupertino
option;
six
elemoso
Camino
beautiful
path
or
option;
7
Cupertino
Crossroads.
AJ
P
If
we
go
ahead
and
choose
this,
then
select
it
will
there
be
some
information
station
somewhere
along
the
trail,
because
I
wasn't
familiar
with
the
Italian
Nation
until
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
most
people
think
of
the
aloni
instead,
so
it
might
be
a
new
name
for
people
and
I
was
looking
at
their
website
today
and
learning
a
little
bit
about
it.
So
I
was
wondering
what
the
plan
might
be
with
that.
AJ
B
AJ
B
B
H
Thank
you
so
good
evening,
city
council,
I
I
did
I
did
receive
the
card
in
January
I
trying
to
remember
if
I
actually
did
take
the
survey
I
may
have
taken
it
later,
but
I
I
didn't
realize
it
closed
so
soon
and
I,
don't
know
whether
the
names
were
chosen
before
I
have
great
respect
for
our
history
of
California.
I
do
speak,
Spanish
and
I
had
proposed
initially
when.
H
Name
was
showing
issues:
I
will
be
Frank.
He
is
a
historical
figure
in
California
and
I,
don't
like
to
just
erase
figures
in
California
I'll
just
leave
it
there,
but
I
had
participated
in
the
beginning
meetings
of
when
Apple
first
proposed
the
trail
to
go
along
the
corridors.
This
goes
back
several
years.
H
All
the
way
out
to
the
new
Apple
campus
I
did
work
at
tandem
for
two
years
in
the
80s,
so
I'm
we
were
actually
on
velco
Parkway
in
buildings
that
are
actually
owned
by
Apple
now
so
I'm
very,
very
familiar
with
the
area
I
had
proposed
just
initially
started,
calling
it
The
Steve,
Jobs
Trail.
It
made
complete
sense
to
me
because
it
these
are
two
buildings
that
occupied
a
great
deal
of
his
life
in
in
Cupertino.
He
did
attend
Cooper,
I'm,
sorry,
Homestead,
High,
School,
Flint
Center
at
De.
H
Anza
has
many
many
instances
of
where
he
held
meetings
for
Apple
I
had
the
Great
I
was
able
to
work
on
a
next
computer
in
the
time
it
is
a
wonderful
product
that
he
had
developed
for
Unix
operating
system,
I,
consider
Steve
to
be
a
Native
Son
of
Cupertino
and
I
really
would
like
to
see
something
in
our
city
named
for
him.
I
know
that
the
Apple
campus,
the
two
has
many
items,
but
he
is
foundational
in
our
city.
I
knew
Don.
H
H
I
I
don't
want
to
fight
about
the
name
of
this
Trail,
but
I
do
think
that
if,
if
people
are
willing,
I
think
it's
an
appropriate
measure
to
have
this
be
the
Steve
Jobs,
Trail
I,
don't
know
if
Steve.
Obviously
it
goes
between
the
two
apple
campuses.
I
can't
see
anything
a
greater
tribute
to
him
than
to
do
something
like
that.
Thank.
J
So
somehow,
if
you
have
ideas
how
to
make
that
better,
please
share
them,
and-
and
what
have
you
and
I
would
just
like
to
comment
too,
that
when
I
saw
the
term
Cupertino
or
the
name
Cupertino
Crossroads,
we
have
a
Cupertino
Crossroads.
Currently,
it's
strip
mall,
basically
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
a
name,
a
reason
for
something
like
a
trail
to
be
named
with
the
same
name
as
we
have
a
retail
Center.
D
F
F
I
believe
that's
part
of
the
part
of
the
reason
that
City
Council
made
the
decision
to
rename
the
trail
now.
Tamian
Inu
is
a
name
that
the
city
received
as
a
suggestion
from
the
tamian
nation,
the
indigenous
people,
whose
land
we
now
live
on,
who
have
stewarded
this
land
for
centuries
and
Millennia
and
continue
to
be
unseated
from
their
the
nation.
F
So
if
the
city
of
Cupertino
wants
to
reconcile
the
history
of
colonization
and
honor
the
indigenous
people
of
this
land,
this
is
a
good
choice
for
the
naming.
The
trail
and
I
know
there's
some
concern
potentially
about
the
public,
not
understanding
what
the
trail
name
means,
but,
as
as
staff
has
mentioned,
there
are
plans
to
include
education
and
interpretive
signage
to
translate
the
name
and
I.
F
Think
it's
a
really
great
opportunity
for
people
who
are
walking
biking
and
spending
time
on
the
trail
to
learn
about
the
first
people
of
this
land
and
it's
a
much
more
effective
than
having
something
like
tamian
Trail,
because
people
are
gonna
have
to
ask
what
does
Inu
mean
right
so
so
I
think
not
translating
it
an
entirety
for
the
full
name
is
effective
and,
of
course,
the
the
commission.
We
were
also
discussing
the
small
vote
margin
between
the
top
two
votes.
The
top
two
choices.
F
Excuse
me
Tami
and
Inu
and
scubatino
Crossroads,
and
you
you
know.
Our
commission
just
discussed
how
Cupertino
Crossroads
is
not
really
a
good
choice
because,
as
mentioned
before,
this
term
has
multiple
meanings,
there's
already
a
plaza,
that's
named
after
the
cappuccino,
Crossroads
and
also
a
lot
of
people,
think
of
deanza
Boulevard
and
Stevens
Creek
Boulevard
when
they
hear
the
term
libertino
Crossroads.
So
it's
not
really
effective.
F
D
Y
Good
evening,
mayor
way
and
City
Council
Members
I'm
going
to
be
really
brief,
because
John
and
Sal
that
took
care
of
the
bike
head
commission
said
many
of
the
things
that
I
would
have
said.
So
I
am
speaking
tonight
only
as
a
resident
and
not
as
a
representative
from
The
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
I
encourage
you
to
improve
to
approve
the
name
of
tamian
Inu
or
tamian
Trail
or
the
280
Trail.
Y
Not
only
is
that
is
this
the
top
choice
of
our
resident,
admittedly
by
four
vote,
but
also
it
is
a
very
appropriate
name
and,
as
John
mentioned,
the
City
Bicycle
pedestrian
commission
approved
it
unanimously
as
well.
Thank
you
for
considering
my
input
and
for
your
work
on
behalf
of
Cooper.
You
know
good
night.
C
C
The
survey
I
didn't
participate
in
the
survey
because
there
were
I
recall
six
choices,
but
none
of
them
represented
the
ilani
people
at
all,
so
I'm,
just
hoping
if
there
could
be
some
background
as
to
why
the
titanium
people
are
recognized,
but
the
Ohlone
people
are
not
recognized
for
this
Trail,
just
just
for
my
own
education
and
I
hope
the
education
of
the
community
for
others
who
may
be
confused
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
K
Posting
a
table
by
the
library
or
by
farmers
market
or
by
any
of
the
many
places
with
the
public
frequents,
would
have
gotten
you
a
hundred
responses
in
one
hour.
I
would
like
to
understand
why
none
of
those
were
used
to
obtain
more
feedback.
Posting
a
table
by
any
of
the
many
schools
in
Cupertino
would
have
gotten
thousands
of
responses.
K
I'd
also
like
to
offer
up
that
the
city
use
the
next
door
polling
feature
to
be
able
to
pull
residents
for
their
choice
of
names.
That
is
an
instantaneous
method
to
get
feedback,
even
though
that
is
not
validated
in
terms
of
proof
of
residence
checks.
Finally,
I
would
like
to
offer
up
that
a
name
that
has
not
been
discussed
that
I
would
love
to
see
offered
is
a
choice
of
hewlett-pack
and
job
stream.
Hewlett
and
Packard
have
long
been
a
part
of
the
history
of
Cupertino.
K
Hp
has
occupied
the
Cupertino
campus,
which
is
now
the
Apple
Spaceship
Campus
since
1969.
the
city
of
Cupertino
is
Incorporated
in
1955.
So
for
much
of
the
existence
of
the
city
of
Cupertino,
the
HP
campus
has
been
a
part
of
the
history
of
the
city
of
Cupertino,
the
Apple
campus,
the
infinite
Loop
was
started
in
I,
believe
1978
and
absolutely
has
established
itself
as
the
home
in
Cupertino.
K
When
we
mentioned
the
word,
Cupertino
people
refer
to
it
as
the
home
of
apple
and
so
I
believe
we
would
do
justice
in
honoring
all
three
and
purifying
them
into
one
name,
calling
it
The,
Hewlett-Packard
and
job
spring
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
propose
an
alternative
here
and
get
the
public
input
on
a
more
broader
scale
and
and
go
forward.
I
urge
you
not
to
vote
on
this
today
and
send
this
back
for
a
more
repetitive
feedback
from
the
community.
Thank
you.
B
You
mother
city
clerk,
I'd,
like
to
thank
all
the
public
comments.
Again,
it's
really
great
to
hear
from
the
public
and
I'm
always
learning
something
so
I
am
going
to
close
the
public
comment
and
close
the
public
hearing
right
now
and
bring
it
back
to
council
for
discussion.
Does
council
want
to
discuss
first
and
make
emotional,
make
a
motion
and
then
discuss
discuss
first,
okay,
council,
member
ciao,
I.
E
E
But
it's
relevant
because
I
have
thought
I
think
when
we
decided
that
we
probably
should
look
at
the
name.
One
thing
that
I
have
always
had.
Unfortunately,
this
hasn't
been
brought
to
the
council,
and
my
study
session
to
address
is
this
Trail
I
think
it
will
be,
it
will
cost
50
million
dollars
and
more,
and
if
we
make
that
a
really
nice
paved
bike
trail,
that's
going
to
be
even
more
so
I
have
wondered.
Since
this
connector
took
Apple
campuses,
could
we
possibly
get
some
donation
from
Apple
or.
E
G
G
E
Consider
proposed
to
have
a
donor,
yes
and
because
I
am
I,
think
it
I
usually
I
liked
him,
meaning
tamian
Trail.
The
name
I
think
we
should
recognize
this
Indian
tribe,
especially
since
it's
not
as
well
known
that
they
actually
have
a
history
in
our
area.
We
couldn't
name
them
after
we
can
rename
a
park
as
the
tamian
park,
for
example,
but
for
this
Trail
we
really
need
a
funding
source.
E
P
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
want
to
thank
Chad
and
Evelyn
for
this.
The
presentation
and
all
their
work
on
renaming
this
Trail
I
after
I
had
been
educated
about
the
the
treatment
of
the
Native
Californians
by
Junipero.
Sarah
I
had
brought
forth
and
was
advocating
to
see
if
we
could
get
a
different
name,
and
so
we
were
for
the
meantime.
P
Some
people
don't
feel
that
it
did
not
get
as
much
as
we
might
have,
but
I
think
there
was
a
little
bit
of
response
fatigue
from
the
housing
element
and
the
park
and
all
of
the
things
that
we've
been
really
working
on
having
more
Outreach
in
it,
I
think
over
the
holidays.
People
might
have
not
picked
up
every
bit
of
mail
and
responded
to
everything
and
might
have
been
kind
of
tired,
so
the
the
tamian
traditionally
I'm
going
to
just
read
from
Wikipedia
that
they
traditionally
lived
throughout
the
Santa
Clara
Valley.
P
P
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
really
like
this
name
is
because
it's
to
me
it's
very
poignant
that
it's
sitting
right
alongside
of
the
juniperocera
freeway,
the
I-280
is
called
the
juniperocera
freeway
and
the
titanium
Inu
Trail
would
be
right
alongside
of
it
and
I
I
I,
just
like
I,
said,
I
find
it
poignant
that
way.
So
I
I'm
really
pleased
with
the
outcome
of
the
survey
that
this
name
was
brought
forward.
P
I
think
it's
really
it's
very
interesting
that
that
we're
learning
that
that
the
tamian
people,
the
tamian
nation
is
is
the
they
are.
The
native
people
in
this
area,
most
of
us
thought
it
was
the
Ohlone
so
I'm
glad
this
is
going
to
be
an
educational,
stop
and
I
hope
that
all
of
this,
this
history
can
be
incorporated
into
it
as
well.
So
I'm
I'm
fully
behind
this
I
think
it's
I'm
really
impressed
with
the
choice
I
really
like
it.
Thank
you.
S
Yeah
I
know
I
agree
wholeheartedly
with
council
member
more
on
this
I
think
that
the
tamionino
is
a
fantastic
name
for
the
trail.
I
I
appreciate
the
juxtaposition
of
it
against
the
universe.
Freeway
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
recognize
the
full
history
of
Santa,
Clara,
Valley
and
I
think
that
the
temen
are
underrepresented
in
that.
So
I
think
this
is
a
marvelous
opportunity
to
give
them
some
representation.
S
I
also
agree
with
the
speakers
who
have
mentioned
the
confusion
surrounding
the
Cupertino
Crossroads.
That
seems
like
a
a
poor
choice
of
name
for
a
trail
that
that
would
also
invoke
this
as
other
commercial
center
in
town
I.
Also,
don't
really
think
that
it
as
a
trail
that
is
mostly
linear
that
it
it
really
qualifies
as
Crossroads,
there's,
not
really
anything
Crossing
it.
It's
just
there.
So
I
I
think
that
tammanino
is
a
fantastic
choice
and
I'll
be
happy
to
support
it.
E
Okay,
so
I
just
want
to
to
see
whether
the
other
council
members
can
I
mean
this
Trail,
it
hasn't
been
constructed.
We
likely
won't
have
funding
to
construct
it
for
another
10
years.
Maybe
it's
nice
to
name
it,
but
then
we
probably
won't
be
able
to
have
a
sign
to
recognize
it,
because
it's
costly
and
we
and
without
funding
it's
a
sky.
But
then,
if
we
can
name
like
a
Lawrence
meeting
park,
that's
something
attainable.
We
can
open
it.
E
I,
like
the
name,
tamian
and
I,
am
wondering
whether
something
that
we
already
have
or
will
likely
have
soon,
maybe
better.
We
can
put
a
sign
there
with
the
history
why
this
area
should
be
recognized
as
Tamia
Nation
wonder
if
the
council
should
consider
that
and
then
maybe
for
this
Trail,
which
needs
funding,
we
could
pursue
potential
donors
who
might
help
design
the
naming,
but
still,
of
course,
subject
to
the
council
approval.
E
B
We
have
any
more
comments.
I
I,
don't
have
a
comment.
So
the
the
survey
is
disappointing,
but
I
like
the
history
and
I,
do
think
you
know
once
we
name
it.
It
comes
with
education
and
comes
with
awareness.
This
is
very
strict.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
California
history,
so
this
is
really
good
education
part
for
me,
too.
I
I
have
no
objection
to
it.
So
if
and
if
there's
any
no
more
comments
from
the
council
may
I
have
a
motion.
G
B
Thank
you
so
we'll
move
into
number
10.,
the
number
20
is
2022
General
plan
annual
report
and
housing
element
annual
progress
report
on
forms
required
by
hcd.
The
recommended
action
is
to
receive
reports
and
authorized
submit
her
to
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development.
So
do
we
have
a
staff
report.
Q
R
Q
AK
My
name
is
Carrie
Hustler,
housing
manager
and
I
am
joined
by
Luke
Connolly.
Our
acting
community
development
director
I
am
here
tonight
to
present
you
with
an
overview
of
the
city's
2022
General
plan
annual
report
in
the
city's
progress
in
implementing
our
housing
element
in
the
2022
annual
housing
element
report.
AK
AK
This
was
reviewed
by
Planning
Commission
in
December.
Planning
Commission
suggested,
adding
policies
with
next
comprehensive
General
Plan
update
regarding
telecommunition
telecommunication
projects
to
meet
5G
architectural
standards,
public
health
and
safety,
environmental
changes
and
Smart
City
initiatives.
AK
The
2022
report
covers
activity
during
January
through
December
of
2022
numbers
are
based
on
net
new
building
permits
issued,
which
adds
housing
to
the
arena
stock.
In
past
years,
the
report
focused
on
building
permits
issued
for
new
housing
units
broken
down
by
affordability,
level,
the
city's
progress
towards
meeting
its
Rena
numbers
and
the
city's
progress
towards
implementing
its
housing
element
programs.
AK
In
the
last
nine
years,
developers
have
applied
for
and
been
issued
the
following
building
permits
overall
in
2022
the
city
issued
128
building
permits,
of
which
we
have
24
moderate
income
units
and
104
above
moderate
income
units.
You
see
that,
although
we
have
made
progress,
there
is
quite
a
lot
of
housing
that
remains
to
be
built.
AK
Here
is
an
overview
of
the
city's
Arena
entitlements
for
the
same
time
period.
In
all
four
categories,
we
have
far
exceeded
Arena
obligations.
The
city
has
entitled
and
produced
546
total
units
as
counted
towards
our
annual
housing
element,
progress
reports,
otherwise
known
as
Arena
production.
The
city
has
entitled
3370
units
which
have
not
yet
been
produced.
AK
B
B
2020.,
that
means
actually
29
new
units
are
being
occupied,
the
rest
are
either
in
building
and
being
built
or
just
having
permit.
They
haven't
done
anything
like
entitlement,
but
they
haven't
done
anything
right,
correct,
okay,
thank
you,
I
I.
My
comment
is
that
that
sounds
pretty
low
for
29
occupancy
in
2022..
Does
that
include
Adu
and
everything.
AK
E
E
Q
AL
AH
AL
That
are
unfiled
projects
have
that
have
received
their
approval
through
planning
projects
that
are
at
the
building
permit
stage
and
then
at
the
certificate
of
occupancy
stage,
which
is
the
last
stage
where
you
can
actually
have
people
moving
in.
So
they're
really
tracked
throughout
the
life
of
the
project.
Something.
R
Y
R
E
E
Q
Another
point
of
clarification,
so
we
only
point
out
these
four
projects,
so
we
do
not
provide
a
name
of
the
project
to
hcd
as
part
of
submittal.
All
hcd
cares
about
is
the
number
of
units
that
have
met
the
requirement,
but
we
simply
want
to
provide
the
name
of
these
a
development
to
council,
as
they
probably
are
you're
more
familiar
with
the
name
of
development.
P
P
That
would
be
the
building
permit
under
review
and
it
says
above
moderate
123
units
I
I'm
wondering
if
maybe
I'm
missing
something
here,
because
there's
you
have
131
senior
apartments,
48
BMR
units
for
seniors,
I
know
the
27
Memory
Care
rooms
don't
count,
and
then
you
also
have
the
the
88
townhouses
and
row
houses.
So
should
that
be
in
this
table,
I,
don't
I
just
I'm
kind
of
lost
when
I
look
at
the
Oaks
and
it
says
123
is
that
does
that
need
to
be
changed?
P
AK
B
B
P
No
we've
got
I
mean
I've
pulled
up.
The
page
and
I
was
on
the
Planning
Commission
we've
got
yeah,
so
it's
131
senior
apartments
will
be
in
the
Atria
building
and
you've
got
the
48
senior
bmrs
that
building's
almost
almost
done
there
and
the
88
townhouses
and
row
houses
yeah,
so
I
think
that
just
and
it's
got
the
old
name,
the
Oaks.
So
maybe
that
is
just
a
relic
of
a
earlier
table
that
that
could
use
some
more.
But
this
is
not
like
you're
saying
this
is
not
what's
getting
turned
into
hcd.
P
You've
got
another
yeah
place
where
you're
keeping
track
of
it,
but
I
think
for
this
summation
table
it'll,
probably
help
and
I
think
people
are
looking
forward
to
those
buildings
getting
completed.
I
think
the
the
BMR
looks
like
it's
moving
along
pretty
well,
so
on
that
note,
I'd
love
to
hear
an
update
on
when
they
expect
those
to
open.
Thank
you.
S
S
S
AL
S
D
H
Good
evening
city
council,
I
have
lived
the
drama
of
the
sixth
cycle
arena
for
the
last
year,
and
I
will
tell
you:
I
was
exhausted
in
December.
That's
probably
why
I
didn't
take
the
tamian
trail,
whatever
that
was
in
January,
because
I
I
was
exhausted
in
December,
but
yet
hcd
made
us
turn
this
document
in
take
our
holidays
to
keep
working
on
this
and
I
can
tell
you
right
now.
H
H
We
had
no
assurance
that
hcd
will
certify
us.
I
have
been
extremely
critical
of
this
whole
process.
Since
the
beginning,
I
won't
go
down
that
road
I
am
following
the
seventh
cycle:
Arena
housing
numbers.
It
is
happening
in
Southern,
California
and
up
here
there
will
not
be
a
repeat
of
what
happened.
This
last
time.
H
I
am
very
very
concerned
that
HC
an
hcd
just
eliminated
self-certification
by
cities.
This
just
happened
like
two
or
two
days
ago:
hcd
is
making
up
the
rules
as
we
go
along.
It's
not
fair.
It's
not
ethical.
It's
not
legal
and
I
have
great
concerns
about
the
legality
of
what
is
being
foisted
upon
our
state,
all
480
cities
and
the
counties
are
having
to
run
the
hamster
treadmill
that
hcd
is
is
pursuing
and
yes,
okay,
someone
said
that
hcd
does
not
care
about
each
development.
They
do.
H
People
are
blabbing
to
hcd
about
every
single
building
project
in
the
state
and
there's
SB
450,
which
I
guess
that
Tony
Atkins
just
put
in
a
day
ago,
which
is
going
to
allow
sb9
to
have
even
more
ministerial
adus
and
hcd,
will
take
over
Adu
implementation
in
every
city.
That
is
not
running
the
hamster
wheel.
I
can
tell
you
right
now.
This
is
happening
in
other
states.
It's
happening
in
Arizona,
Oregon,
Virginia,
Florida,
Washington,
State
and
I
I'm
I
have
grave
concerns
about
the
legality
of
all
of
this.
H
Y
Y
Only
about
500
units
housing
units
have
been
built
here
in
total,
and
only
about
12
percent
of
those
were
for
low
and
very
low
income
residents
who
qualifies
for
low-income
housing.
It
might
surprise
many
or
a
family
of
four
I
did
a
little
investigation.
Low
income
is
about
a
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
dollars
here
in
Cupertino.
The
starting
salaries
for
teachers
are
about
77
fish
thousand
dollar,
which
means
they
qualify
even
for
a
single
person
living
alone.
Y
We
need
to
make
sure
our
housing
element
coming
out
that
we're
redoing
considers
everyone
in
our
and
not
just
those
residents
that
already
own
a
single
family
home
I
hope
that
we
work
to
fix
our
housing
element
and
that
this
time,
there's
input
from
residents,
students,
20
and
30
year
olds,
newly
in
the
workforce,
those
with
lower
incomes
and
others
wishing
to
live
here
that
they
will
be
truly
Incorporated.
In
the
plan,
we
also
need
to
be
sure
that
the
projects
will
actually
get
built,
approving
something
isn't
enough.
Y
B
Again,
thanks
for
the
public
comments,
I'm
going
to
close
the
puppy
comments
and
go
back
to
the
council
for
deliberation,
I
like
to
make
a
motion
first
and
have
a
second
and
then
we
can
deliver
it.
I
move
that
we
receive
reports
and
authorized
submit
her
to
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development.
S
E
Yeah
I
I
think
I
think,
following
up
on
Council
maplemore's
question
regarding
I
think
I
looked
up.
The
website
for
Westport
137,
it's
listed
in
the
staff
report
is
137
units,
but
the
137
I
mean
1
or
23.
123
is
the
number
of
assisted
unit
and
that
website,
unfortunately,
has
not
been
updated.
Since
December
2021,
we
have
approved
the
amendment
for
the
assisted
State
living
and
then
the
project
consists
of
88
townhouse
and
row
houses
and
48
below
market
rate.
That's
in
the
building
too,
and
that's
already
one.
E
AL
P
P
And
that
caused
the
error.
So,
let's
take
a
if
we
could
pull
this
up
and
take
a
look
at
it,
because
what
I'm
seeing
is
multiple
lines
showing
Westport
and
it
could
be
that
there's
a
grand
total,
perhaps
I'm
not
really
sure
how
you're
doing
this.
This
part
of
the
table,
because
I'm
seeing
one
two
three
eight.
P
AJ
P
AM
Don't,
like
sorry,
is
the
mic
on
sorry.
I
just
need
to
get
closer
hi
good
evening,
Ben
food
director
from
the
element
I
just
I,
can
answer
the
question
about
the
table.
Two,
the
123
number
I
believe
the
number
that
number
references
the
number
of
permits
not
yet
issued
so
so
in
the
Westport
project
has
a
number
of
different
units.
As
you
mentioned,
different
unit
types,
so
123
is
correct.
It's
reference
to
the
ones
actually
not
yet
been
issue,
but
approved
just
want
to
clarify
that
point.
P
Just
presented
okay,
because
so
when
I
go
to
table
a
it's
got
the
total
proposed
units
by
project
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
it
might
be
that
the
the
table
is
kind
of.
It's
not
really
showing
a
summation
at
the
bottom
and
it
just
moves
on
to
the
next
project.
So
we
can't
tell
if
the
math
is
good.
P
Q
Q
P
P
Q
P
Q
B
E
So
I
brought
up
the
issue
with
the
city
manager
that
this
should
have
come
to
planning
commissioned
and
then
maybe
these
numbers
could
be
checked
and
understand
that
there
is
no
time
this
year,
I
think
on
the
city
manager
promised
for
next
year.
We
were
playing
ahead,
so
there
is
sufficient
time
to
go
to
Planning
Commission.
Q
B
B
B
Creating
any
issues,
oh
okay,
if
the
council
can
finish
really
fast
on
number,
nine
I
would
love
to
have
it
done,
because
the
California
cities,
Association
Peninsula
division,
is
going
to
have
a
meeting
very
soon
and
they
are
going
to
ask
us
to
support
it
oppose
it.
But
if
it's
going
to
take
some
time
we
can
postpone
to
next
meeting.
What's
the
council's
pleasure.
B
D
B
B
Thank
you.
Okay.
It's
consider
submitting
a
letter
in
opposition
of
opposition
to
the
taxpayers,
protection
and
government
accountability,
act,
initiative
number
21-0042
a
so
approve
the
submission
of
a
letter
to
in
opposition
to
the
taxpayer,
protection
and
government
accountability
act.
Do
we
have
staff
report
on
this.
G
So
this
is,
this
is
a
an
initiative.
That's
on
the
November
2024
ballot.
It
was
a
opposed
by
the
the
city
through
the
legislative,
Review
Committee
before
it
qualified
for
the
ballot.
It
has
the
number
of
of
things
that
are
potentially
concerning
for
the
city.
It
would
prohibit
advisory
measures
that
would
Express
a
preference
for
the
use
of
revenues
from
a
general
tax.
G
So
Steph
is
recommending
that
the
city
submitter
letter
in
opposition
to
the
measure
which
has
been
requested
by
the
the
league
of
cities
because
they're
you
know
the
the
measure-
would
Place
further
restrictions
on
the
ability
of
local
governments
to
raise
revenue
and
there's
legal
risk.
That's
created
by
the
higher
standard
for
the
review
of
fees
and
charges.
So
with
that
I
will
be
available
for
any
questions
and
that
that
Council
may
have
so.
R
B
B
H
Good
evening,
city
council,
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
should
not
have
gotten
rid
of
the
legislative
Review
Committee.
It
was
extremely
enlightening
to
me,
I
feel
now,
because
we
don't
have
it.
The
public
has
no
way
of
knowing
slick
things
like
this,
where
they're
trying
to
take
away
and
confuse
the
public.
Just
because
the
legislative
Review
Committee
last
year
sent
a
letter,
we
need
to
send
another
one
again.
I
read
this
and
I
feel
like
the
public
is
being
fleeced.
H
I
have
grave
concerns
about
Evan,
Lowe
and
Senator
Cortese,
where
their
loyalties
lie.
I
did
not
vote
for
either
of
them
and
I
probably
will
not
vote
for
them
again.
I
have
great
respect
for
them,
but
I
have
been
forced
because
I
have
no
legislative,
Review
Committee
in
my
city
to
go
out
and
join
other
groups
that
are
looking
at
what
the
laws
will
do
to
this
state
and
I
can
tell
you
I,
read
this
item
here
and
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
about
it.
H
I
am
not
willing
to
give
up
my
personal
Liberty
and
my
city
to
someone
who,
at
the
state
level,
is
going
to
dictate
and
think
that
they
know
best
about
what
happens
in
my
city.
I
am
not
going
to
surrender
My
Liberty
for
my
city,
and
this
is
how
it
begins.
They
start
taking
away
the
liberties
from
the
city
and
they
don't
let
the
public
know
what
happens.
This
is
what's
happening.
H
That's
why
I
hope
that
we
will
see
fit
to
restore
the
legislative,
Review
Committee
so
that
the
public
can
understand
what
is
happening
to
them.
Yes,
I
will
heart
begin
about
the
Revolutionary
War.
If
my
ancestors
had
sat
there
and
let
someone
take
advantage
of
them,
the
taxation
or
whatever
cause
the
Revolutionary
War
and
cause
those
13
colonies
to
pull
together,
we
would
still
be
sitting
there
in
a
cesspool
of
taxes,
I
I'm.
Sorry,
I
cannot
begin
to
state
that
things
like
this
cannot
be.
H
You
cannot
hold
the
public
whatever
is
happening
at
the
state
level.
They're
treating
the
cities
like
they're
stupid,
like
we're,
vassals.
Well,
I'm!
Sorry,
you
know.
If
my
city
council
is
not
going
to
support
and
give
the
public
the
information,
they
need
they're
going
to
have
to
go
to
other
groups
and
that's
what
I
have
had
to
do.
H
I
I
really
really
have
grave
concerns.
I,
don't
fully
understand
what
this
is
doing,
but
if
mayor
Darcy
and
the
legislative
Review
Committee
saw
fit
last
year
to
say
that
this
was
not
a
good
piece
of
legislation,
then
I'm
on
board
with
them.
Let's
do
it
again
and
again
and
again
you
know,
if
you
don't
do
it
here,
we'll
do
it
by
the
state.
Thank.
L
Evening,
council,
members
and
staff,
a
few
things
concern
me
about
this
item.
The
text
of
the
initiative
has
not
been
included
as
an
attachment.
I
think
it
should
have
been
also
there's
no
link
to
where
we
can
find
the
actual
final
text
when
you
do
a
Google
you're,
not
sure
what
you're
getting
sometimes
the
draft
letter.
This
is
a
question
for
the
City
attorney.
The
draft
letter
says
it's
deceptively
titled.
L
Why?
What
makes
it
so
I'm
not
clear
how
it
would
affect
Cupertino
directly
I
read
some
of
the
aspects
and
from
a
resident
who's,
retired
and
on
a
fixed
income.
Some
of
those
things
are
appealing
to
me,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
consequences
are
of
all
the
property
taxes
staying
local.
That
sounds
kind
of
good,
but
what's
the
consequence,
I
don't
see
any
pros
and
cons
and
I'm
concerned
that,
because
we
don't
have
a
legislative
review
anymore,
that
the
next
item
that
comes
up
will
have
even
less
scrutiny.
L
So
if
you
could
answer
why
it's
deceptive,
what
are
some
exact,
specific
things
that
are
bad
for
Cupertino,
but
and
bad
for
residents,
not
just
the
city
but
the
residents,
and
should
the
council
take
a
position
on
a
ballot
measure
that
citizens
are
going
to
vote
on
is?
Should
you
have
a
policy?
I
know
you've
taken
positions
on
state
bills,
but
that's
not
the
same
as
a
ballot
measure.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
bring
back
to
the
council,
we
have
about
five
minutes.
So
can
we
limit
to
one
minute
please
I,
I'm,
gonna,
say
first,
because
even
if
we
don't
have
a
legislative
committee,
this
shows
that
we
are
working.
We
are
working
with
the
league
of
Cal
cities
and
we're
looking
with
where
our
Peninsula
division
we're
working
with
the
citizens
Association
of
Santa
Clara,
that
all
the
cities
are
together
and
I.
B
Think
City
attorney
can
answer
the
questions
of
the
consequences
for
the
city
and
for
the
rest
is
because
we
bear
the
burden
of
having
to
prove
a
lot
of
things
and
we
are
have
a
legal
risk
of
a
lot
of.
If
this
bill
passes.
All
the
cities
are
in
a
pretty
tight
position.
Can
you
explain
a
little
bit
more.
G
Yeah,
just
briefly
so
so
I
mean
what
one
consequences
of
wizard
would
make
it
more
difficult
for
the
city
to
to
raise
Revenue
that
that's
that's
a
policy
decision
that
council
could
make,
because
you
know,
as
as
the
the
member
of
the
public
commented
you
know,
some
people
prefer
to
have
more
restrictions
on
the
government's
ability
to
raise
taxes.
So
so
that's
that's
that
that's
a
policy
question
for
the
council.
G
That
means,
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
it,
the
the
initiative,
would
limit
voters
ability
to
to
to
to
vote
on
certain
advisory
measures
that
are
not
binding
on
the
council,
but
Express.
Voter
preference
for
the
use
of
of
of
of
of
funds
from
from
General
taxes,
so,
for
example,
by
you,
know
the
cadet
who
could
impose
a
general
tax,
but
the
voters
could
advise
Council
that
they
wish
those
funds
to
be
set
aside.
G
B
G
E
E
G
N
E
E
E
B
B
E
AH
E
A
decision
on
exactly
what
kind
of
restriction
is
that
restriction,
really
something
that
increase
the
transparency
I.
Think
increasing
transparency
is
a
good
thing
when,
especially,
we
are
going
to
take
money
out
of
people's
pocket
and
but
I
need
to
understand
more
to
decide.
So
I
will
extend
from
this.
We
haven't
got.
S
It
overthrows
a
number
of
important
California
presidents
in
terms
of
how
we
interpret
what
is
a
tax
and
what
is
a
fee.
It
also
does
the
same,
for
you
know
the
voter
initiated
initiative
process
for
how
we
handle
taxes
to
give
you
some
idea
of
how
artfully
they've
crafted
the
marketing
title
for
this.
The
the
description
on
the
Secretary
of
State's
website
is
in
terms
of
what
it
will
do
is
that
it
limits
the
ability
of
Voters
in
the
state
and
local
governments
to
raise
revenues
for
government
services.
R
G
G
B
So
yeah,
so,
if
I
understand
correctly
part
of
is
the
proof
of
burden
is
on
the
city,
because
you
have
to
justify
how
you
charge
it
to
be
the
exactly
the
cost
and
and
it
could
be
challenged
by
anybody,
so
it
it
proves.
The
burden
on
the
city
is
so
huge
that
the
cities
Association
is
asking
other
cities
to
oppose
it,
because
you
have
to
prove
it.
And
then
you
have
to
hire
Consultants
analysis
and
people
can
still
challenge
you
and.
G
Specifically,
with
prospective
fee
and
charge
the
the
a
fee
or
a
charge,
it
would
increase
the
burden
of
proof
from
you
know,
a
preponderance
of
an
Evidence
to
clear
and
convincing
evidence
which,
which
is
a
high
standard
to
meet
so
exam.
For
example,
you
know
that's
the
same
standard
that
you
need
to
sort
of
impo.
G
You
know
to
impose
punitive
damages
in
a
civil
case
for
just
to
take
one
example
of
where
that
shows
up
in
in
the
law,
and-
and
so
it's
it
that
it's
definitely
a
a
high
standard,
a
higher
standard
to
meet.
I.
Think
that
you
know
the
consequences
of
that
would
be
unpredictable,
but
they're
certain
that
they
I
think
they
would
be.
P
P
I
would
prefer
that
we
would
at
this
time,
be
looking
at
some
some
of
the
legislation
that's
going
through
this
year.
That's
going
to
get
signed
because
there's
so
much
time
between
now
and
the
actual
vote.
So
I
am
wondering
what
is
what
is
our
rush
to
look
at
this
particular
piece
of
so
this
ballot
initiative,
as
opposed
to
looking
at
some
of
the
other
laws
that
we
know
that
are
going
to
be
modifying
things
that
are
affecting
our
cities?.
B
G
As
is
it,
the
league
I
mean
I
had
the
same
question
myself
when
this
request
came
in
because
November
2024
seemed
a
long
way
away
to
me
as
well,
and
you
know
the
response
was
they,
you
know
their
their?
The
the
I
think,
both
at
the
state
level,
and
then
our
our
regional
organizations
are
attempting
to
to
gather
support
for
the
campaign
to
oppose
the
measure
and
so
they're
trying
to
line
up
support
now,
so
that
that
that's
the
reason
for
the
timing.