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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - May 3, 2022 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the Cupertino City Council Meeting of May 3, 2022. Part 2 of 2.
A
A
So
this
is
a
monthly
basis
that
would
extend
it
under
ab361
by
a
30-day
period.
Our
member
of
the
public
who
pulled
this
was
peggy
griffin
and
so
very
briefly,
peggy
if
you'd
like
to
raise
your
hand
so
that
you
can
be
allowed
to
talk
and
just
let
us
know
the
reason
for
pulling
the
item.
Welcome.
Peggy.
A
Okay,
very
good:
let's
go
ahead
and
bring
this
back
to
the
diocese,
and
so
I
think
the
appropriate
person
would
either
be
our
city
attorney
or
city
clerk.
To
talk
about
this
from
initial
standpoint,
chris
or
kirsten
would
either
of
you
like
to
take
this
on.
With
regard
to
introducing
the
item
itself,.
A
D
D
Concerning
the
covid19
pandemic
council
must
find
that
either
the
state
of
emergency
continues
to
directly
impact
the
ability
of
members
to
safely
meet
in
person
or
state
or
local
officials
continue
to
impose
or
recommend
measures
to
promote
social
distancing,
the
county
health
officer
and
the
county.
The
california
department
of
industrial
relations
continue
to
recommend
social
distancing
in
the
workplace
in
certain
certain
circumstances
and
evidence
documenting
the
transmission
of
cobit
19
in
indoor
spaces
establishes
that
the
state
of
emergency
continues
to
impact
directly
the
ability
of
members
to
meet
safely
in
person.
A
C
Once
this
sunsets
teleconference
meetings
would
be
allowed
under
the
pre-covered
brown
act
rules,
meaning
that
the
there
would
have
to
be
a
quorum
physically
present
at
the
meeting
location
and
any
members
wishing
to
participate
remotely
would
have
to
post
the
location
from
which
they're
participating
on
the
agenda
and
then
make
that
location
open
to
members
of
the
public.
That
wish
to
come.
Observe
the
meeting.
A
Okay,
very
good.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
backdrop
of
information.
Let
us
go
to
our
members
of
the
public
and
I'll
remind
the
members
of
the
public.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
this
item,
have
your
hand
raised
by
the
time
our
first
member
of
the
public
is
done
speaking
same
with
blue
cards
and
same
with
emails,
send
in
your
blue
cards
and
emails
during
that
period
of
time,
while
the
first
member
of
the
public
is
speaking,
I
have
one
hand
raised
on
zoom
from
peggy
griffin
and
so
welcome.
B
A
E
E
E
I
have
an
issue
with
certain
meetings
that,
for
instance,
when
the
cep
the
housing
element
was
being
held
last
time.
There
was
so
much
confusion
with
some
things
and
plan
it.
Actually
I
take
that
back.
It
was
the
planning
commission
meeting
that
emc
was
presenting
at
it
would
have
been
far
easier
to
follow.
If
that
had
been
at
least
the
the
not
the
participant's
rewarding
the
panelists
were
all
together
because
they
were
screen
sharing
and
jumping
back
from
the
screen
to
that
screen.
E
And
if
you
were
in
city
hall
you
could
or
community
hall
you
could
have
used
the
large
screens.
It
would
have
been
much
clearer.
What
was
going
on
even
for
someone
that
was
potentially
watching
from
home,
so
I
I
guess
it's
a
level
of
complications
in
a
meeting
that
make
it
better
in
person,
but
I
do
think
you
get
more
participation
when
there's
an
option
to
be
for
the
public
to
be
in
a
zoom.
E
E
E
A
F
Hi
I
hadn't
thought
I
was
going
to
speak
on
this
one,
but
the
previous
speakers
did
bring
up
some
interesting
points
and
peggy
had
some
really
really
good
statements,
so
did
lisa
and
so
did
rota,
and
I
I
think
that
it's,
I
really
think
that
it's
nice
to
have
the
hybrid
model.
As
long
as
we
can.
I
know
that
it's
really
complicated
and
it's
requires
a
lot
of
overhead.
F
F
I
think
people
have
taken
advantage
of
the
public
and
passed
things
without
the
public,
knowing
or
being
able
to
say
anything
on
it,
and
I
I
hope
that
the
sacramento
politicians
do
not
think
that
that
is
the
way
that
things
can
continue,
because
that
is
not
the
way
democracy
in
this
state
or
this
country
goes.
That's
just
my
personal
feeling.
F
I
have
had
a
great
deal
of
frustration
because
I
feel
like
our
politicians
in
sacramento
level,
not
our
local
people,
but
at
sacramento
are
not
listening
to
the
public
and
we
are
going
down
a
road
towards
some
type
of
a
model
that
is
trying
to
run
this
state
that
I
don't
even
have
a
description
for.
I
have
very,
very
grave
concerns
about
if
we
continue
this
way
without
asking
the
public
having
respect
for
the
public.
I
have
some
of
the
comments
that
some
of
our
electeds
in
sacramento
have
made
about.
F
Cities
are
absolutely
reprehensible
to
think
that
these
people
have
even
been
elected
to
the
state
level
and
they're
saying
things
like
this:
it's
just
mind-boggling,
but
in
this
situation
I
do
think
in
terms
of
the
housing
element
meetings.
Those
have
to
be
in
public
I've
been
coming
here.
This
is
like
the
fourth
housing
element.
B
F
A
A
Yes,
I
believe
that
the
first
speaker
stated
that
there
would
be
a
preference
for
hybrid
meetings
for
commissions
and
committees
and,
if
that
were
not
possible
to
have
those
meetings
exclusively
on
zoom.
I
think
this
is
probably
a
good
legal
edification
exercise,
because
from
what
I
understand
mr
city
attorney,
I
think
that
would
be
more
challenging
than
having
meetings
exclusively
live.
Given
the
legal
regime,
I
I
think
state
statute
would
actually
have
to
affirmatively
change
quite
significantly
for
us
to
have
exclusively
zoom
meetings
for
commissions
and
committees.
C
A
G
A
C
I
H
H
A
On
because
you
have
a
live
meeting
and
a
video
meeting
going
on
yeah,
okay.
Well,
I
promised
very
last
question
before
I
call
on
vice
mayor
ciao.
If
we
notice
of
a
live
meeting
right
now,
is
it
theoretically
possible
for
all
of
us
to
zoom
in
so
to
speak
under
the
current
provision
that
we
are
looking
to
extend
here
and-
and
I
think
that's
to
legal
counsel.
C
A
A
C
J
J
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
what
they
are
requesting
is
to
forever
allow
an
option
to
attend
all
the
committee
commission
meeting
virtually
and
then
yeah,
and
what
and
then
also
that
I
think
we
attended
the
fremont
union
board
meeting
the
other
day.
They
there
is
a
new
device
that
has
multiple
cameras,
that
it
will
detect,
who
is
speaking
and
actually
follow
the
speaker,
even
as
they
they
walk
and
automatically
switch
and
even
have
multiple
camera
on
on
the
zoom.
J
So
so
there
are
technology
there,
you
don't
need
a
video
team
to
and
they
they
can
even
detect
the
switch
between
cameras.
So
I
think
it
should
really
look
into
that,
and
I
see
that
there
is
even
a
desktop
version.
You
can
just
put
one
in
on
conference
room
table.
The
freeman
union
has
it
on
the
poll
you
and
then,
if
we
can
do
what
we
are
doing
now,
all
the
commissioners
even
physically
present
also
log
into
a
zoom.
I
think
their
their
hybrid
meeting
will
be
possible.
Yeah.
A
K
H
A
Right
so
yeah
right
so
so
it
does
seem
that,
with
regard
to
a
hybrid
meeting,
you
wouldn't
necessarily
need
to
have
a
telecast.
We
could.
We
could
basically
have
a
essentially
a
live.
I
think
zoom
meeting
similar
to
sort
of
what
we're
doing
right
now,
but,
but
I
think
you
know
to
vice
mayor
chow's
point
about
current
technology.
A
I
would
say
that
the
video
crew
would
still
you
know,
serve
a
very
valuable
function
of
trying
to
make
sure
these
various
iterations
are
worked
out.
You
know
for,
for
instance,
one
of
the
primary
details
here
is
that
you
can't
have
a
live,
zoom
meeting
in
a
hybrid
meeting
and
turn
on
your
microphone,
or
else
there's
going
to
be
like
a
ton
of
feedback,
so
I
mean
I
know
that
a
lot
of
technical
issues,
or
at
least
some
technical
issues
that
would
need
to
be
worked
out
before
we
got
into
that
environment.
A
In
any
event,
this
here
is
to
allow
us
to
go
ahead
and
have
these
types
of
hybrid
meetings
resume
meetings
for
the
next
30
days,
and
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
for
a
motion
to
to
to
move
the
recommended
action.
May
I
have
that
motion
council
member
way
may
have
a
second
for
this
council
member,
more
and
so
councilmember
way.
If
you
would
vocally
move
that,
please.
A
A
You
very
much
madam
city
clerk,
and
now
we
are
on
to
item
number
nine
item
number
nine.
Is
the
consideration
of
a
donation
from
marilyn
francesco
for
a
memorial
plaque
to
be
placed
on
a
bench
in
memorial
park
in
memory
of
rob
and
andy,
and
so
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
our
member
of
the
public
that
requested
that
we
pull
this
item
and
again
peggy.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
this,
please
raise
your
hand
on
zoom
and
give
us
a
brief
summary
of
the
reason
that
you
are
pulling.
The
item
welcome
back
peggy.
A
A
B
Hear
me:
yes,
okay,
the
reason
I
pulled
it
was.
I
think
there
should
be
some
discussion
about
the
policy
of
when
a
plaque
is
used.
Typically,
when
you
see
a
bench
with
a
plaque
on
it,
it's
assumed
that
the
donor
bought
the
whole
bench
and
so
and
they're
really
114
dollars
to
purchase
a
bench
or
a
plaque
and
then
how
many
plaques
on
a
bench
and
what,
if
the
bench
goes
away
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff,
I
think
it
should
be
discussed.
A
H
L
We
realize
this
is
a
program,
so
staff
are
working
together
to
bring
some
information
for
council
to
consider
for
a
program
of
that
nature.
But
we
did
feel
that
we
should
bring
this
item
forward.
There
was
a
donation
and
a
park
bench
was
designated
incl
in
coordination
with
public
works
staff
at
memorial
park
and
do
the
naming
I'm
sorry,
the
donation
policy,
and
that's
why
this
item
is
before
you,
because
city
council
may
recognize
the
donation
of
a
plaque
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
A
L
A
Let's
go
to
our
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item
and
so
I'll.
Remember
I
remind
our
members
of
the
public
if
you'd
like
to
speak
on
this
item,
please
raise
your
hand.
You'll
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
Currently
I
don't
see
anyone
with
their
hand,
raised
and
so
I'll
go
ahead,
and
also
ask
are
members
of
the
public
that
are
here
if
they
would
like
to
speak
to
the
item
to
fill
in
a
blue
card
and
by
the
time
the
first
person
is
concluded.
A
Speaking
you'll
need
to
either
have
your
hand
raised
on
zoom,
a
blue
card
filled
out
or,
if
you're,
putting
in
your
comment
over
email
to
city
clerk
at
cupertino.org
you'll
need
to
have
that
email
sent
by
the
time
the
first
member
of
the
public
is
done
speaking
now,
we
do
have
a
hand
raised
on
the
zoom
function
now
from
rota
fry
and
some
and
so
rhoda
welcome.
You
will
be
the
first
speaker
on
this
item.
That's
item
nine.
E
A
D
A
D
A
G
So
I
I'd
like
to
understand
that
part,
because
my
reading
on
it
isn't
that
you
simply
donate
money
for
a
plaque,
but
that
you
are
providing
something
tangible,
and
so
I'd
like
to
understand
that,
and
I
do
when
I
first
read
this-
I
thought
perhaps
it
was
for
the
memorial
that
we
have
there.
That
is
needing
some
care,
because
some
of
the
granite
plaques
have
fallen
off.
I
thought
maybe
this
was
a
request
for
for
a
veteran.
G
Like
the
member
of
the
public
said,
we
will
run
out
of
benches
and
then,
if
we
are
changing
the
way
the
entire
park
is,
is
furnished
and
what
what's
being
provided
there.
It
may
be
that
some
of
these
benches
are
going
to
be
removed,
becomes
kind
of
a
delicate
situation.
If
you
have
a
bench
that
now
has
a
memorial
plaque
on
it
and
you're
taking
it
out
of
the
park.
What
do
you
do
then
yeah?
I.
G
A
C
Yeah,
so
I
so
I
I
believe
joanne
indicated
that
she
that
that
her
staff
is
reviewing
the
donation
policy.
Certainly
the
city
attorney's
office
would
be
part
of
that
review.
I'd
say
if,
if,
if
if
council
is,
is
uncomfortable
with
taking
action
on
this
item
before
that
review
is
completed,
I
would
suggest
that
that
that
that
council
not
take
action
on
the
item.
A
G
And
to
the
city
attorney,
I
I
personally
am
uncomfortable
taking
action
on
this
item
and
I
I
think
it
leads
us
in
in
to
a
certain
precedent
where
I
an
individual
could
say.
I
would
like
a
plaque
and
I
want
it
to
be
on
this
object,
but
I'm
not
donating
that
object.
I'm
donating
the
plaque
and
oh
the
city
did
this
in
the
past
now
you're
going
to
do
that.
For
me
and-
and
I
I
think
that
that's
that
could
be
pretty
difficult.
J
J
J
Yeah,
it
seems
to
make
sense
if
they
are
donate,
even
if
they
are
donating
the
entire
object.
I
think
we
need
to
review
if
we
even
want
to
accept
the
object
on
the
location
where
they
want
to
put
it
and
because
we
may
or
may
not
want
the
object
they
donate
right.
Not
it's
not
anything.
That's
free
is
always
meet
the
city's
mission
or
image.
Thank
you.
M
H
H
A
I
M
A
K
Man
asked
director
joanne
a
question:
has
this
been
done
before,
because
I
think
we
kind
of
need
no
end?
Not,
I
know
we
do
have
a
policy
and
yes,
the
city
council
can
accept
or
not
accept
a
donation
depends
on
our
cultural
or
what?
What
we
believe
is
we
can
or
cannot
accept,
not
that
we
like
or
not
like
it
so
but
I'd
like
to
ask
director
joanne
if
this
has
been
done
before.
Thank
you.
L
So
I'm
sure
that
it
has
been
not
in
the
two
years
that
I
have
been
here
and
I'm
pretty
sure,
due
to
the
pandemic,
but
we
do
have
additional
inquiries
waiting
in
the
wings
for
direction
and
so
we're
trying
to
put
together
some
information
for
council's
consideration
and
that
will
be
both
user-friendly
to
the
public
as
well
as
to
staff.
In
order
to
navigate
these
issues.
A
K
So
it
is
very
difficult
for
family,
mother
and
friends,
because
I
I
did
make
a
donation
to
the
koopa
king
library,
when
my
daughter
passed
away
and
the
team
room
does
have
her
plaque
and
then,
when
the
library
was
remodeled,
they
rep
they
removed
it,
but
put
it
back
somewhere
else
and
I'm
okay
with
it.
So
the
question
about
if
the
bench
goes
and
where
do
we
put
the
plaque,
I
think
the
city
staff
are
really
very
caring
and
they
notify
me
and
they
let
me
know,
and
then
I'm
okay
with
it.
N
N
Cause
difficulty
when
subsequent
changes
are
done.
I
do
appreciate
that
when
somebody
makes
a
large
donation,
I
mean
richard
lowenthal
donated
that
land
for
the
linda
vista
trail
and
I
believe,
there's
a
plaque
there
at
the
front.
I
don't
remember
what's
on
the
plaque
if
it
actually
has
his
name,
but
there
is
a
plaque
there.
N
N
I
really
would
like
to
see
something
if,
if
joanne's
correct-
and
we
have
people
waiting
behind
this
one
that
would
like
to
do
some
type
of
memorial-
I
think
we
should
have
a
place
in
memorial
park
that
would
be
open
to
those
type
of
things
my
sister
actually
paid
for
one
in
santa
clara
across
from
the
old
kaiser
building
the
park.
That's
there.
They
have
one
for
war
memorial,
our
dad
being
in
world
war
ii.
She
paid
for
one
of
the
bricks
there.
A
A
Okay,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
leave
this
to
questions
at
this
point
and
so
we'll
go
with
councilmember
moore.
I
will
go
ahead
and
propose
a
motion
following
questions
for
the
purposes
of
further
discussion
and
so
councilmember
moore.
If
you
have
any
further
questions,
please
ask
them
at
this
point:
okay,.
G
So
I'm
wondering
when
they
originally
made
cupertino
memorial
park,
what
why
was
it
called
memorial
park
and
what
was
the
the
an
original
function
supposed
to
be?
Was
it
in
consideration
of
of
military
veterans
a
memorial
for
that?
If
someone
has
some
of
that
history,
I'd
like
to
to
know
if
what
we're
doing
is
in
keeping
as
opposed
to
providing
a
memorial
for
anyone
who
has
passed
away.
A
A
H
A
A
Let
me
see
if
that
will
work.
Okay,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
for
those
following
motion,
and
let
me
see
document
five,
okay,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
that
council
direct
staff
to
bring
back
to
council
proposed
policy
and
procedures
for
considering
requests
for
memorial,
plaques
on
city,
public
property
prior
to
consideration
of
further
action,
the
current
item
and
that
the
current
and
any
similar
pending
proposal
be
reconsidered.
Subsequent
to
the
results
of
the
consideration
by
council
of
proposed
policy
and
procedures
for
memorial,
plaques
may.
L
A
A
second
for
this
council
member
willie
seconds,
and
I
will
take
that
for
consideration
and
further
deliberation
as
the
movement
I'll
go
ahead
and
and
say.
I
think
that
this
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
follow
up
on
any
questions
that
may
be
pending.
It
gives
staff
the
opportunity
to
research
this
particular
topic
and
provide
any
suggestions
or
recommendations,
as
well
as
coalescing.
A
A
A
J
Okay,
so
could
your
motion
include
a
direction
to
bring
the
memorial
plaques
that
we
already
have
right
now
and
their
donation
amount
in
the
past
and
then
also
could?
Could
you
include
that
the
policies
there
should
be
a
policy
that
says
the
city
has
a
right
to
uninstall
such
a
plaque,
and
the
city
is
not
obligated
to
cover
the
cost
of
relocating
in
if
there
is
a
need.
J
D
J
A
G
One
of
the
things
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
this
is
a
it's
a
donation
policy
and
I
think
we
should
be
having
some
discussion
about
what
items
that
we'll
accept
for
for
donation
and-
and
I
not
sure
that
it's
covering
that.
So
this
is
a
talking
about
requests
for
memorial
plaques
as
opposed
to
our
our
donation
policy
and
that
that's
a
little
bit
different.
G
G
G
So
I
I
do
my
reading
of
this
policy
is
that
an
object
was
supposed
to
have
been
donated.
I
think
the
the
object
should
be
of
some
kind
of
value
and
and-
and
so
I
kind
of
think
about
what
the
city
manager
mentioned
and
that
was
ordinarily
there's
a
an
object
like
a
bench
with
that's
being
donated
along
with
a
plaque,
and
I
not
too
many
months
ago
I
was
at
the
ladybird
johnson
botanic
garden,
and
there
were
donations
for
many
different
sections
of
the
botanic
garden.
G
Some
people
donated
whole
fountain
areas
and
groves
and
buildings
and
all
different
kinds
of
benches
that
were
done
very
artistically
and
had
so.
There
were
names
of
of
people
all
all
over
the
entire
park,
and
that's
what
I'm
used
to
seeing-
and
I
that's
what
I
would
like
to
see
here
in
the
future
and
that
there
should
be
there
should
be
some
like
object,
kind
of
cost
threshold.
G
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
moore,
I'm
sharing
my
screen
now
for
policy,
nine
under
donor
recognition
guidelines,
and
so
in
reference
to
the
policy
that
you
indicated
that's
number
two
under
roman
numeral,
nine,
no
city,
building
facility,
structure,
equipment
or
furnishing
can
be
named
after
a
donor,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
that,
because
I
wasn't
able
to
initially
identify
which
policy
you
were
referencing.
So
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
that's
the
policy
you
had
mentioned.
G
H
Thank
you
mayor.
I
was
just
going
to
say
we'll
bring
all
of
this
back
because
we're
going
to
be
bringing
back
a
full
policy,
we
can
get
into
much
more
detail.
At
that
point,
I
think
I
think,
once
you
see
a
policy
is
better.
Then
we
have
at
least
a
baseline
a
guideline,
some
kind
of
format
to
go
off
of
versus
we're
sort
of
throwing
everything
out
there.
A
H
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
jim.
I
I
will
say
that
I
think
councilmember
moore
makes
some
excellent
points.
Reading
the
policy
vis-a-vis
what's
being
asked
at
this
point
and
perhaps
part
of
that
referral
to
staff
can
be
a
matter
of
looking
at
these
various
scenarios.
A
plaque,
of
course,
is
not
the
only.
You
know
time
that
we
could
be
looking
at
a
potential
falling
of
a
donation.
A
If
we
were
to
accept
this
particular
request,
I
I
think
a
policy
would
be
in
good
order
for
future
referral.
So
if
that's
satisfactory,
I'd
be
happy
to,
you
know,
consolidate
those
comments
into
the
referral,
but
I
do
have
the
hands
raised
from
both
vice
mayor
chow,
as
well
as
council
member
way,
and
so
let's
go
on
to
vice
mayor
chow.
At
this
point
and
then
council
member
way.
G
Well,
I'm
not
really
entirely
sure
how
to
do
this.
I
would
my
preference
is
actually
that
this
goes
back
to
staff
and
they
bring
some
modifications
and
clarification
of
the
donation
policy
back
to
us
and
because
my
read
on
it
is
that
this.
This
suggestion
for
this
agenda
item
actually
doesn't
qualify
for
for
for
us
to
agree
with
to
this
donation.
There's
no
object
being
donated
and
I'm
sorry
to
say
that,
but
that
that
is
my
reading
of
this
policy.
So
I'd
like
to
have
that
clarified,.
A
Council,
moore-
I
I
just
I
I
have
to
I
have
to
interject
before
we
have
vice
mayor
chao,
I
mean
actually
under
9.2.
I
actually
completely
agree
with
you.
It
does
explicitly
say
no
city
building
facility,
structure,
equipment
or
furnishing
can
be
named
after
a
donor
and
the
way
I
read
this,
I
would
think
that
if
you
were
to
fix
a
plaque
that
had
a
particular
person's
name
on
it,
it
would
be
something
if
it's
not
the
specific
donor.
A
J
A
K
A
Of
course,
I
I
think
that
should
be
an
administratively.
You
know
appropriate
and
matter,
of
course,
action
that
that
would
be
read
into
the
motion,
but
jim
or
anybody
else
on
our
city
staff.
Is
that
something
that
would
be
interpreted
as
part
of
the
motion
that
if
you
were
to
bring
back
the
policy
and
we
were
to
approve
one
and
any
pending
requests,
are,
are
then
pending
after
the
policy
that
anyone
submitting
those
requests
would
be
notified
after
the
policy
was
considered
and
perhaps
enacted.
A
G
Very
brief:
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
on
the
city
council
staff
report.
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
misleading
because
it
says
this
recommended
action
is
consistent
with
the
cupertino
donation
policy,
section
9.3,
titled
donor
recognition
guidelines,
which
states
that
city
council
may
recognize
a
donation
of
a
plaque
with
a
wording
to
be
determined
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
G
A
A
The
policy
itself-
you
know
states
quote
the
city
council-
may
recognize
a
donation
by
a
plaque
affixed
to
the
appropriate
city,
building,
etc.
It
doesn't
say
the
city
council
may
recognize
a
donation
of
a
plaque
affects
to
this
program.
So
I
I
I
I
agree
with
the
nuance
of
interpretation
in
in
that
language
there
vice
mayor
chow.
Are
you
ready
at
this
time
to
introduce
your
substitute
motion.
G
J
I
think
we
can
probably
decide
if
we
want
to
limit
that.
I
think
I
think
yeah.
I
think
we
can
decide
what's
the
purpose
of
the
plaque,
it
could
be
just
for
memorial
of
a
loved
one.
On
I
mean
like
council
member
william
said.
Maybe
there
could
be
a
location
where
kind
of
like
the
library
donation
wall,
we
could
create
a
different
location.
Maybe
it's
not
memorial
park,
but
a
place
in
the
city
residents
can
put
in
memorial
plaques
for
their
loved
ones.
I
don't
know
it's
just
potential.
Let's
consider
that
it.
E
G
Was
your
question,
I
have
a
question
what
what
imagine
in
someone
wants
to
have
a
memorial
plaque
and
makes
it
makes
a
donation
and
council
finds
their
their
request
unacceptable,
perhaps
in
memory
of
someone
that
they
collectively
don't
want
to
see
memorialized
now
what
happens
if
the
city
says
no,
and
we've
said
yes
to
others.
Are
we
in
some
sort
of
legal
situation.
C
So
so,
by
creating
a
place
where
people
could
be
recognized
in
that
fashion,
you'd
be
creating,
what's
typically
characterized
as
a
limited
public
forum
under
first
amendment
law,
so
that
allows
the
city
to
place
content-based
regulations.
For
example,
we
could
you
know
people
would
you
know
they
could
be.
It
could
be
limited
to
a
certain
subject
matter
and
obviously
people
couldn't
put
obscenities
and
that
sort
of
thing
on
a
plaque,
but
we,
but
the
city
would
not
be
allowed
to
discriminate
based
on
viewpoint.
G
C
K
So
we
just
completed
the
library
donation
plex
and
I
yeah
I
I
do
think
the
concerns
are
there,
but
if
we
have
policies,
that's
written,
that's
conforming
with
the
current
policies,
a
lot
of
we're
doing
right
now.
I
I
think
it's
case
by
case
right,
so
I
do
think
that
the
concerns
are
there,
but
it
doesn't
exclude
us
from
making
a
policy.
That's
that's
good
for
our
citizens.
You
know
these
things.
Are
these
things
build
communities?
You
know
build
put
us
together,
so
I
do
believe
that
it's
a
good
thing.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
C
I
should
say
that
you
know
there
may
be
more
discretion
for
the
city
to
accept
or
reject
funds
than
than
you
know
simply
allowing
or
disallowing
speech.
That's
something
I'd
have
to
look
at
more
closely,
but
I
I
didn't
I
I
think
I
didn't
want
to
leave
the
leave
open
that
leave
that
possibility
unaddressed
right.
A
So
city
attorney
jensen
the
way
I
read
the
policy
it
seemed
like
it
was
contemplating
donations
of
funds
and
essentially
in
exchange
the
city
would
say
we
will
place
a
plaque
somewhere
for
example,
and
so
I
think
we
should
go
back.
Staff
should
be
asked
to
go
back
and
examine
this
and
clarify.
You
know
the
policy
in
past
practice,
but
but
I
think
that
also
it
is
a
good
time
to
go
ahead
and
put
a
punctuation
on
this.
We're
not
going
to
contemplate
every
single
iteration
of
what
we
can.
A
You
know
potentially
be
putting
forward
to
the
public
as
a
future
donation
opportunity,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
suggest
that
vice
mayor
chad,
you
do
have
a
substitute
motion
that
you've
introduced,
but
we
don't
have
a
second
for
the
substitute
motion
at
this
time.
Council
member
moore,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
I
second.
G
A
A
A
Okay,
all
right
so
go
ahead
and
unshare
your
screen.
Vice
mayor
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
place
on
my
screen.
My
my
screen
on
zoom,
the
new
substitute
motion,
and
so
it
reads,
as
can
be
seen
on
on
the
screen,
are
there
any
other
further
comments
on
this
motion?
The
substitute
motion
is
voted
on.
First
council
member
moore.
G
A
J
As
well
what
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
policy
should
also
consider
relocation
of
the
donated
object
of
plaque
whether
the
city
covers
the
cost
or
what's
the
liability
for
the
city.
If
we
remove
those
objects,
okay,
so
the
policy
should
include
that.
But
what
exactly
is
that
policy?
I
don't
know
we
would?
The
staff
would
bring
recommendation
on
those.
N
J
A
You
know
when
we
were
at
smith.
This
tends
to
get
a
bit
unwieldy,
but
I
think
point
taken
I
mean
and
so
yeah.
I
think
this
is
probably
just
an
exercise
in
you
know
kind
of
learning.
You
know
how
how
to
discipline
ourselves
when
you
know
we're
we're
putting
forward
these
motions,
but
the
motion
as
it
stands
is
on
the.
A
Let
me
go
ahead
and
try
to
expand
this
out
so
that
all
the
words
can
be
captured
is
on
the
screen,
and
so
let
me
just
get
an
explicit
confirmation
from
the
movement
and
the
seconder
vice
mayor
chao.
Do
you
accept
these
friendly
amendments
to
your
motion?
Yes
and
council?
Member
more,
do
you
accept
those
friendly
amendments
as
a
seconder?
Yes,
okay.
Are
there
any
further
comments
on
this
motion
on
the
substitute
motion?
A
A
A
Everyone
we
are
now
on
item
10..
The
subject
is
to
consider
the
fiscal
year
2022
to
23
community
development,
block,
grant
or
cdbg
program
and
below
market
rate,
bmr,
affordable
housing
fund,
ahf
funding
allocations,
and
so
let's
go
to
our
member
of
the
public.
That
pulled
the
item
once
again.
Peggy
griffin,
did
you
want
to
speak
briefly
as
to
the
reason
that
you
pulled
the
item
peggy?
H
M
O
O
O
So
I
wanted
to
go
over
the
timeline
with
you.
In
november,
the
city
issued
an
annual
notice
of
funding,
availability,
flash
and
rfp,
and
this
was
open
until
february
and
after
the
deadline
staff
reviewed
the
applications
received,
provided
them
to
housing
commission
in
april,
and
we
are
here
with
housing
commission
recommendations
throughout
the
year.
O
O
First
I'll
go
over
the
anticipated
cdbg
budget.
I
would
like
to
mention
that
hud
has
not
the
us
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
Hud
has
not
issued
their
final
allocations,
but
we
build
in
about
a
five
percent
increase
every
year
and
we
can
adjust
the
final
numbers
based
on
the
contingency
plan
that
we
have
established
in
the
city.
O
So
in
front
of
us
for
cdbg
we
are
anticipating
an
entitlement
amount
of
427
thousand
dollars,
approximately
of
which
we're
here
this
evening
to
take
a
look
at
the
282
thousand
dollars
for
the
capital,
housing
projects
and
any
rollover.
Funding
from
projects
not
finished
this
this
year
as
well,
will
go
into
the
pot.
O
So
here's
the
applications
for
the
cdeg
capital,
housing
funds.
We
had
two
applications
rebuilding
together.
Silicon
valley
submitted
an
application
to
continue
the
repair
and
rehab
program
for
low-income
homeowners
in
cupertino,
the
west
valley
community
services,
vista
village
application
is
not
recommended
pending
resolution
of
a
hud
audit.
So
before
you
you
have
about
88
000
in
funding
applications.
O
O
I
should
also
mention
that
the
county
runs
a
rolling
application
process
for
their
funding
sources
and
we
have
the
same
kind
of
sentiment
in
cupertino,
where,
if
someone
has
a
project
in
front
of
us,
we
would
be
glad
to
open
the
funding
cycle
and
make
a
competitive
process
to
award
those
funds.
We
don't
want
timeline
to
be
a
barrier
so
as
part
of
the
human
housing
and
human
services
grant
funding
process,
we
have
significant
reporting
and
monitoring.
We
provide
ongoing
technical
assistance.
We
require
quarterly
and
annual
reports.
O
The
funds
are,
the
reports
come
in
the
form
of
a
reimbursement,
so
we
review
all
funds
before
we
issue
payment
and
then,
in
addition,
we
have
significant
compliance
with
hud
for
cdbg
dollars,
so
we
hold
ourselves
to
a
very
high
standard
and
then
next
steps.
We
are
here
to
authorize
the
city
manager
to
execute
the
cdbg
and
bmr,
affordable
housing
fund
funding
agreements
and,
along
with
a
representative
from
west
valley,
community
services
and
rebuilding
together
silicon
valley.
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
and
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation.
A
Thank
you
very
much
carrie.
Let's
go
to
our
members
of
the
public
I'll
go
ahead
and
remind
our
members
of
the
public
that
once
the
first
speaker
is
done
speaking,
please
have
your
hand
raised
and
zoom
or
your
speaker
card
filled
out
your
blue
card
live
or
have
an
email
sent
to
cityclerk
all
one
word
at
cupertino.org
again
by
the
time
that
first
speaker
is
done
speaking.
We
do
have
a
member
of
the
public
with
a
hand
raised
on
zoom
that
is
peggy
griffin
welcome,
peggy.
B
Thank
you,
city,
council
and
staff.
I
pulled
this
item
because
I
didn't
really
understand
it,
and
I
was
hoping
that
somebody
would
explain
it,
and
I
understand
this
now
a
little
bit,
but
I
was
wondering
if
the
funds
could
be
used
to
purchase
land
that
could
then
be
used
for
affordable
housing.
There
are
some
sites
that
are
talked
about
on
the
housing
element
that
the
owner
is
interested
in
developing
and
probably
could
be
purchased
for
less
than
six
million.
B
B
A
A
D
A
O
We
actually
do
have
a
city,
housing
programs
and
resources
websites
right
off
of
the
housing,
cupertino
box,
cupertino.org
backslash
housing,
there's
a
housing
programs
and
resources
website
where
we
stay
up
to
date
on
connecting
to
programs
that
offer
subsidies
such
as
west
valley,
community
services,
project
sentinel
is
a
housing
counseling
agency.
So
those
types
of
programs
fall
under
the
public
services
dollars
that
are
underway
and
there
was
a
significant
amount
of
funding
available
to
the
community
during
the
pandemic
and
we
have
listed
those
out
as
well.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Carrie
and
I'll
follow
up
briefly
on
a
question
regarding
our
municipal
code.
So
I
think
carrie
or
perhaps
city
attorney
jensen
can
answer
this.
I,
I
think,
there's
actually
a
pretty
strong
allowance
in
our
municipal
code
for
for
for
hearings
administered
by
the
city
that
could
help
potential
renters
and
disputes
with
their
landlords
avoid
the
costly
court
process
is
that
correct
city
attorney
jensen
or
or
kerry?
C
A
I
know
that
in
my
seven
year-
well
I
don't
know
this
for
a
certain
fact,
but
I
I
haven't
seen
it
invoked
at
least
as
a
visitation
upon
council
in
my
my
seven
and
a
half
years
on
on
the
diocese
here.
But
but
carrie
are
you
familiar
with
this
process
that
we
have
on
our
cupertino
municipal
code
for
helping
ease
that
into
more
of
a
local,
a
local?
I
don't
want
to
say
arbitration
oriented,
but
a
local
hearing
based
process
that
helps
renters,
avoid
those
costs
of
a
court
hearing.
O
Mayor,
I
can
speak
to
our
current
practice
on
landlord
tenant
mediation.
The
city
currently
provides
funding
annually
to
project
sentinel
for
tenant,
landlord
mediation
services
and
for
fair
housing
assessments
and
those
are
provided
to
cupertino
residents
free
of
charge,
and
I
believe
our
housing
element
requires
landlord
tenant
dispute
services
as
well.
So
we
are,
we
are
underway
with
that
contract
with
project
sentinel
and
any
time
we
have
a
request.
They
they
step
in
and
support
our
residents
free
of
charge.
A
Okay,
understood-
and
so
I
I
guess
I
would
just
make
the
request
that
you
know
if
that
mechanism
is
active
and
available
in
our
municipal
code,
that
perhaps
we
get
some
kind
of
an
update
to
the
public
as
to
that
option
available.
So
vice
mayor
chow,
I
think
you
have
a
hand
raised
and
does
anyone
else
have
a
hand
raise.
So
I
can
get
an
order,
a
council
member
more
prior
to
bringing
forward
a
motion.
So
at
this
point
we're
at
questions
for
clarifying
the
presentation
before
we
bring
a
motion
forward.
J
My
understanding
when
I
talk
to
project
sentinel
is
they
also
per
help
with
negotiations
when
the
rent
price
increase
so
not
only
mitigation
and
then,
as
for
funding
for
those
who
are
facing
eviction,
I
think
when
I
talked
to
josh
seller
at
the
west
valley
community
service,
the
city
did
provide
funding
to
help
pay
for
rent,
but
he
said
they
didn't
get
a
lot
of
requests
for
those
funding.
It
seems
on
the
federal
government.
J
A
J
G
G
Some
previous
upgrades
have
been
made
to
vista
village,
so
my
concern
is
because
we
we
do
have
a.
I
believe
that
67
of
our
bmr
rental
units
are
going
to
be
going
offline
because
they
are
reaching
their
their
their
their
term
and
I'm
wondering
when
vista
village
might
be
reaching
the
end
of
theirs.
I
believe
it
was
built
in
2002,
so
I'm
wondering
how
much
time
is
left
on
it.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
moore,
and
thank
you
for
the
reference
I
I
was
actually
looking
for
that
part
of
the
municipal
code,
myself,
2.78
greatly
appreciated
and
with
regard
to
the
question
asked
by
council
member
moore,
I
I
suppose
we
can
either
reference
our
director
of
community
development,
ben
foo
or
carrie
hussler.
To
answer
that
specific
question,
I
think
it
was
related
to
vista
village,
in
particular,
correct.
O
O
Thank
you,
my
apologies.
The
city's
below
market
rate
housing
program
website
has
an
active
and
up-to-date
gis
map
of
the
city's
bmr
portfolio,
so
that
lists
the
entire.
The
entire
list,
including
as
well
as
the
housing
element,
has
a
list,
and
I
can
provide
the
exact
exact
date
of
vista
village.
It's
november
29
2056..
A
J
I
think
you
also
using
cdbg
grant
they
had
habitat
for
humanity,
for
funding
to
upgrade
the
ownership
homes
for
low-income
homeowners
and
they
funded
a
project
with
the
housing
trust.
I
think
that's
for
low-income
homeowners,
that
it
provides
a
way
for
them
to
get
equity
out
of
their
home
while
they
are
alive.
But
then
there
is
some
financing
management
plan,
so
are
those
eligible
under
bmr
funding
or
my
misunderstanding
on
the
category
that's
funded,
they
didn't
need
require
a
lot
of
funding.
J
A
A
Okay,
thank
you,
director
foo.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
bring
this
back
to
the
item
itself.
So
under
item
10.
The
recommended
action
is
to
authorize
the
city
manager
to
execute
the
fiscal
year
22
to
23
cdbg
and
bmr
ahf
funding
agreements
for
the
purposes
of
further
discussion.
Can
we
have
a
motion
to
bring
that
forward?
Councilmember
moore,
so
moved?
Is
there
a
second
for
this
recommended
action?
Vice
mayor
chow
seconds,
okay,.
J
J
Before
going,
one
is
under
habitat
for
humanity,
where
they
help
low-income
homeowners,
renovate
their
homes
and
then
another
one
is
to
help
low-income
homeowners
to
get
equity
out
of
their
home
as
living
expenses
were
so
that
they
can
work
out
some
financing
program.
That's
called
the
housing
trust,
I
think,
and
I
did
email
the
staff
a
pretty
detailed
email
with
all
the
information.
I
will
find
my
email
and
enter
that
into
public
records
so
that
the
council
can
have
the
information
too.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
vice
mention.
Let
me
refer
this
back
to
our
staff
director,
foo
or
miss
usler.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
vice
mayor
child's
question?
I
see
it
as
fairly
similar
to
the
original
question
by
our
member
of
the
public,
but
on
a
different
category.
This
is
not
about
whether
this
funding
can
be
used
to
purchase
land,
for
instance,
for
vmware
housing,
but
can
it
be
used
for
these
particular
purposes,
either
ben
or
kerry?
Would
you
like
to
address
that?
J
O
Sure
so
the
bmr,
affordable
housing
capital,
housing
project
funds
can
be
used
for
land
acquisition,
new
construction
acquisition
or
rehabilitation
of
buildings
for
permanent
affordability
or
substantial
rehabilitation.
So
these
funds,
for
you
were
used
for
the
veranda,
is
the
most
recent
example
in
terms
of
the
rehab
or
renovation
of
low-income
homes.
That
is
a
good
application
for
cdbg
funds
and
we
have
the
rebuilding
together
silicon
valley
program
that
has
submitted
the
application
for
that,
but
it's
often
hard
to
find
eligible
applicants
for
cdbg,
and
so
we
haven't
needed
to.
O
J
O
Yes-
and
I
can
tell
you
that
we've
met
with
numerous
non-profits
we've
met
to
discuss
numerous
projects.
My
understanding
is
that
we
haven't
received
any
applications
at
this
point
because
they're
not
shovel
ready
and
that's
one
of
the
requirements
of
the
funding
source,
and
so
you
might
you
know
I
would
imagine
with
our
pipeline.
You
might
see
some
applications
for
this
funding
in
the
near
future.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much.
Carrie
I'll
go
ahead
and
remind
our
council
that
we
do
have
the
recommended
action
on
the
table
as
a
motion
as
well
as
the
second
for
that
motion,
and
so,
if
I
don't
see
any
further
hands
raised
I'll,
go
ahead
and
ask
for
a
vote
on
this
item
and
so
seeing
no
further
hands
raised.
Let's
go
ahead
and
do
so,
madam
city
clerk.
Thank
you
very
much.
Please
vote
with
your
lights.
A
A
A
A
Here's
my
statement,
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
on
the
cupertino
city
council
for
considering
my
proposed
resolutions
to
the
upcoming
united
states
conference
of
mayors,
which
will
be
taking
place
next
month
from
june,
2nd
to
june
6..
With
regard
to
the
proposed
resolutions
set
forth
this
evening,
I
appreciate
your
leave
to
make
a
few
comments.
A
A
Colleagues,
I
am
not
asking
for
monetary
support
with
these
proposed
resolutions,
but
I
do
very
strongly
believe
that
the
principles
represented
and
espoused
within
them
are
critically
important
for
us,
not
just
as
a
community,
but
as
a
society
to
be
able
to
function
effectively.
Let
me
share
with
you
a
recent
experience
along
these
lines.
People
often
say
to
me:
why
doesn't
our
local
newspaper
cover
cover
local
news
of
import
to
the
community?
A
That
is
an
excellent
question.
From
my
perspective,
it
is
not
for
a
lack
of
trying.
I
have
repeatedly
during
my
terms
in
elected
office,
asked
our
local
repub
reporters
to
cover
our
local
events
of
significance,
but
instead
of
doing
so,
it
frequently
turns
out
to
be
the
case
that
there
is
no
interest
in
doing
so.
In
fact,
exactly
this
happened
last
week,
I
was
asked
by
a
reporter
for
a
local
publication
about
prior
comments
during
a
study
session
on
cupertino's
lobbying
ordinance,
which
does
exist
and
which
is
not
unique.
A
You
would
think
that
instead,
the
library
in
our
city,
which
sees
nearly
a
million
patrons
a
year,
despite
being
the
only
library
in
the
santa
clara
county
library
system,
not
having
a
dedicated
public
meeting
space,
would
make
news
when
we
go
through
years-long.
Community-Wide
efforts
to
deliver
precisely
that
type
of
space
to
the
community
and
public
would
be
newsworthy,
but
no,
apparently,
a
request
to
cover
the
ladder
is
not
even
worth
the
courtesy
of
a
response
from
the
reporter.
A
That
is
one
reason
why
I
think
that
we
need
to
to
support
the
proposed
resolution
regarding
lobbying.
We
need
to
stand
with
the
side
of
disclosure
if
moneyed
interests
are
seeking
to
determine
decision
making
in
our
democratic
process.
That
is
an
absolute
prerequisite
to
intelligent
and
informed
decision
making.
That
is
the
second
of
my
proposed
resolutions.
A
Similarly,
the
first
resolution
regarding
accurate
public
information
is
also
critically
necessary
to
support.
This
is
self-evident.
If
the
public
is
being
presented
with
inaccurate
and
untruthful
information,
posing
as,
for
instance,
news,
then
this
is
a
disservice
to
our
democratic
process.
This
is
about
efficacy
and
decision-making.
A
A
A
Colleagues,
we
are
at
a
critical
inflection
point
in
democracy.
Do
we
allow
paid
for
outright
lies
on
any
and
every
side
of
an
issue
to
continue
to
erode
our
conversations?
Do
we
allow
moneyed
interests
to
continue
with
activities?
Heedless
of
the
actual
repercussions
of
undisclosed
paid
for
lobbying?
A
A
A
A
I
see
lisa
warren
with
a
hand
raised
I'll
remind
our
members
of
the
public
that
you
will
need
to
have
your
hand
raised
on
zoom
or
a
blue
card
filled
out
by
the
time.
The
first
speaker
is
done
speaking
and
also,
if
you
want
to
submit
your
comments
over
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please
email
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Speaking
again.
Our
first
speaker
is
lisa.
Warren
welcome.
Lisa
you'll
have
three
minutes.
B
E
Your
observations
for
your
passion
for
your
emotion
behind
what
you
just
said,
and
I
thank
the
council
who
continually
asks
good
questions,
isn't
afraid
to
ask
questions
even
though
they're
persecuted
many
different
ways,
and
they
do
so
because
it's
the
kind
of
governing
we
all
need
from
the
bottom
up,
and
I
think
you
encompass
that
in
much
of
what
you
said
and
I
have
to
admit.
I
missed
the
beginning
of
what
you
said,
but
I
caught
enough
of
it
to
get
the
gist
of
it.
A
B
A
F
Jennifer,
yes,
thank
you
mayor,
for
you
have
very
eloquently,
stated
everything
that
I
feel
about
how
my
state
is
being
run,
how
there
are
attempts
to
run
oregon
and
washington
state
the
same
way
that
california
is
being
run.
I
have
relatives
in
both
states,
washington
and
oregon,
and
they
are
facing
similar
consequences
that
we
are
going
through
in
sacramento.
F
F
It's
it's
all
there.
If
we
had
had
access
to
the
cupertino
courier
like
we
did
before
when
we
were
going
through
issues
in
the
city,
we
would
have
had
more
of
a
voice
for
whatever
reason
that
paper
is
gone,
it's
not
accessible
to
the
public,
for
whatever
reason-
maybe
that's
nobody's
fault
we're
in
a
digital
age,
but
I
have
never
in
my
life
felt
in
the
last
five
years,
so
slighted
ignored
prejudiced.
F
F
Everyone
has
a
story,
and
I
really
really
feel
that
we
are
are
losing
it
in
california.
We
are
losing
local
control
and
I
fault
sacramento
anyone
that
is
pushing
those
bills
on
the
public.
Like
I
described
tonight,
we
have
the
adu
bill
that
is
2221
where
you
can
build
an
adu
four
feet
from
the
property
line
in
the
front
they're
going
to
cut
the
street
trees
down.
Where
is
this
garbage?
F
It
is
garbage
where
is
it
coming
from,
and
why
is
it
being
tolerated
by
our
our,
not
our
local
politicians,
but
our
electeds
in
sacramento,
again
and
again
and
again,
people
who
live
in
cities
or
counties
of
any
age
who
happen
to
be
in
california
are
constantly
insulted
and
told
that
they
are
not
good
enough
to
live
here.
Well,
I'm
sorry,
the
buck
stops
here.
F
A
J
J
We
know
that
not
only
mercury
news
even
see
major
when
seeing
in
the
new
york
times
they
tell
they
report
truth,
but
only
part
of
the
protrudes
they
pick
and
choose
what
they
report
and
that
they
really
biased
a
lot
of
information
we
receive,
but
they
are
not
lobbying
organization
and
we
know
that
a
lot
of
nonprofits
and
people
fund
them
with
tax
free
dollars,
millions
of
them,
but
they
are
not
qualified
as
lobbyists
in
our
lobbying
ordinance.
So
I
don't
understand
how
any
one
of
this
resolution
you
propose
would
address
that
issue.
J
Maybe
I
don't
understand
it.
So
that's
one
question.
Another
question:
is
we
have
seen
that
twitter
and
facebook
trying
so
hard
cancelling
posts
that
they
consider
false
when
a
lot
of
them
actually
tell
the
truth,
but
just
not
the
truth.
They
want
to
hear
so
when
a
government
organization
is
trying
to
enforce
truth.
I
have
to
ask:
what
do
we
mean
by
that
who
is
who
is
going
to
decide?
J
What
truth
is
and
biden
recently
proposed
to
have
this
misinformation
governance
bureau
trying
to
control
misinformation,
but
I
have
seen
school
board
members
people
in
power
using
the
term
misinformation
to
silence
objects,
objections,
silence,
diverse
opinions,
they
don't
dis,
they
disagree
with.
They
just
slap
a
label
misinformation,
so
they
don't
even
have
to
explain
which
part
is
false.
J
A
Yeah,
well,
let
me
start
backwards,
then.
So
my
my
third
resolution
really
is
about
a
process
and
and
and
the
best
the
best
analogy
I
can
put
forward
is
what
we
have
going
forward
for
the
the
mayor's
cup
challenge,
because
you
know
that
particular
topic
is
in
the
inaugural
event,
plastics
and
sustainability,
and
so
when
I,
when
I
put
it
together,
I
think
about
this
very
widespread
problem.
How
do
we
go
about
dealing
with
it
right
so
that
there
are
several
aspects
to
look
at?
There
are
the
entrenched.
A
You
know
don't
just
be
taking
these
knee-jerk
reactions
that
are
not
really
informed
by
you
know
the
landscape
think
about
what
the
pressures
of
the
landscape
are
the
opportunities
and
then
find
a
way
to
shape
your
policy
in
accordance
to
trying
to
address
those
pressures,
but
also
you
know.
When
we
talk
about
addressing
the
pressures,
I
think
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
countering
them.
It's
also
a
matter
of
trying
to
speak
to
what
it
is
that
their
their
people
are
trying
to
look
for
in
a
lot
of
these.
A
This
is
this
comes
down
to
a
profit
motive,
and
so,
if
that's
the
case,
I
think
then
it
really
does
need
to
have
a
careful
examination
of
economies
and
and
market
driven
forces.
But
then
the
second
part
of
it
is
things
like
you
know,
scientific
wherewithal
and
what
we
can
be
doing
in
order
to
encourage
the
development
of
of
these
types
of
capabilities.
J
A
A
Speaking
to
your
concern,
vice
mayor
chao
that
people
ultimately
get
shut
down
in
their
viewpoints,
I
I'm
I'm
doing
my
best
to
try
in
the
language
to
encourage
that
openness,
and
I
think,
with
with
that
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
kind
of
I
don't
want
to
call
it
a
leap
of
faith,
but
a
willingness
to
go
ahead
and
have
have
some
compassion
and
general
generosity
on
viewpoint.
Now
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
everything
that
people
say
all
the
time
I
mean.
A
I
think
that
there
are
some
prevailing
viewpoints
in
our
own
community
over
an
issue,
for
example
like
housing
and
and
density
and
inventory
that
are
are
are
certainly
you
know
debatable.
You
know
these
are
perspectives
that
are
often
you
know.
You
know
prevalent
and
repeated,
but
that's
not
necessarily
something
that
I
would
qualitatively
say
this
is.
This
is
definitely
something
that
I
agree
with,
or
I
don't
agree
with,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
in
in
order
to
get
these
problems
resolved.
A
A
I
mean
that's,
that's
really,
and
I
was
shocked
that
I
was
constantly
hounded
by
a
particular
reporter
last
week
to
try
to
try
to
try
to
answer
questions
with
regard
to
that
when
we're,
in
the
middle
of
you
know
very
significant
things
that
we're
doing
in
the
city
such
as,
for
example,
I
was,
I
was,
you
know,
naming
the
library
expansion
and
I
actually
specifically
said
well.
Why
aren't
you
covering
this?
It
was
just
completely
ignored.
A
You
know:
we've
gotten
to
the
point
where
a
comment
like
that
used
to
actually
be
met
with
at
least
a
a
head-on
rejection.
This
is
just
completely
ignored
and
I
think
that
we're
probably
going
a
bridge
too
far
with
regard
to
the
idea
that
okay,
a
hedge
fund,
bought
this
we're
a
for-profit
enterprise
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
no
such
thing
as
objective
journalism
or
things
that
are
of
concern
to
our
local
local
communities.
A
I
mean,
I,
I
think,
if
we
actually
have
trained
reporters
that
go
to
respectable
institutions
of
journalism
going
forward
and
saying
to
us.
Okay,
I
want
to
know
about
this
particular
thing
and
it
feels
like
a
game
of
gotcha,
especially
when
you
know
the
mayor
of
the
community
is
saying
these
are
really
interesting
things
we're
recognizing
veterans,
for
instance,
you
know
on
on
veterans
day
completely
ignored,
they
never
show
up,
and
so
I'm
wondering
right
now.
A
Okay,
now,
your
point
is:
how
does
this
speak
to
the
idea
that
we
should
have
a
little
bit
more
integrity
in
terms
of
how
we
approach
issues?
I
think
it
speaks
to
that
because
we're
making
generalized
position
statements
and
we're
and
we're
affirming
values
we're
basically
affirming
and
saying
that
look.
We
need
to
take
a
step
back
and
try
to
figure
out
what
we
can
be
doing
on
on
a
level
to
try
to
connect
with
people
and
and
beseech
them
to
basically
say
look.
It
is
not
a
game
of
cat
and
mouse.
A
A
A
I
have
the
city,
I
I
have
the
city
of
happyville
okay,
and
this
is
the
happyville
news,
all
right
and
the
happyville
news,
occasionally
reports
stuff,
but
whenever
it
comes
to
one
particular
thing,
it
reports
in
a
very,
very
particular
manner
all
right
and
someone
is
paying
the
happyville
news
to
get
out
there
on
the
internet
and
call
themselves
the
happyville
news
and
the
residents
of
happyville
look
at
this
and
people
from
outside
of
happyville.
Look
at
it
and
think
wow.
This
looks
like
a
neutral
news
source
all
right.
A
If
people
are
reading
this
and
they
they
think
you
know
95
percent
of
the
time.
These
articles,
you
know
make
sense
and
that
five
percent
of
the
time
for
that
interest
that
this
particular
interest
is,
is
paying
for
it
slants
in
a
particular
direction.
It
looks
like
news,
that's
what
I'm
talking
about?
Okay,
I
I
don't
object
to
advocacy.
I
object
to
lies.
I
object
to
the
deterioration
of
these
perspectives,
trying
to
act
like
a
wolf
in
sheep's,
closing
clothing
and
it's
insulting
and
it's
a
degradation
of
democracy.
J
I
totally
always
agree
with
everything
you
say.
However,
the
resolution
a
or
b
it
does
not
talk
about.
The
news
media
who
has
is
now
is
the
for-profit
and
where
what's
their
profit
stores
and
non-profit
who
are
actually
doing
the
lobbying.
But
when
people
hear
lobbying
most
of
the
lobbying
ordinance
exclude
those
too.
So
how
do
you
can
we
make
this
clear
that
we
are
talking
about
not
just
normal
kind
of
lobbying
but
any
organization,
that's
trying
to
influence
public
opinion?
Well,.
A
What
I
would
say
is
allow
this.
You
know
almost
ceremonial
first
step
to
happen
as
a
position
statement
and
then
let
us
go
ahead
and
try
to
figure
out
where,
where
the
details
lie,
I
I
I
don't
want
to
take
a
a
principled
statement
and
go
ahead
and
answer
to
you
know
this.
This
type
of
okay
well
for
news
in
particular,
for
instance,
how
do
you
go
ahead
and
fix
this
problem?
Really?
This
is
on
the
level
of
a
principled
resolution,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
the
question.
A
A
J
A
No,
no
questions:
okay.
Well,
then,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
set
forth
the
default
motion
here.
I'd
like
to
move
the
recommended
action
of
approving
the
proposed
resolutions
for
submission
to
the
united
states
conference
of
mayor's
annual
meeting
held
from
june
3rd
through
6th
2022.,
and
I
apologize
for
the
slight
discrepancy
in
the
dates
june
2nd.
A
N
N
A
Councilmember,
william,
you
know
I
I
would
like
to
say
you
know,
in
addition
to
thanks
for
your
comments,
I
I
do
bake
into
this
a
real
optimism
with
regard
to
the
the
capabilities
of
our
system.
I
I
think,
if
we're,
if
we're
open
and
honest
with
each
other,
about
the
sources
of
our
influences-
and
you
know
the
the
perspectives
that
we're
bringing
forward
and
why
we're
bringing
them
forward,
then
it
just
gives
us
that
much
more
of
an
opportunity
and
a
chance
to
go
ahead
and
solve
the
problems.
A
K
Thank
you
mayor
paul.
I
fully
support
the
three
titles:
accurate
public
information
in
a
digital
age,
financial
disclosure
of
special
interest
lobbying
and
the
democratic
principles
of
open
and
effective
public
discourse,
and
I
look
forward
to
attending
the
meeting
and
bringing
back
a
report
from
thank.
J
So
yeah,
I
fully
support
every
the
statements
you
made
and
it's
just
I'm
a
little
disappointed.
I'm
excited
by
your
statement,
but
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
these
resolutions
do
not
do
as
much
as
I
wished.
It
could
do
to
really
encourage
cities
to
do
things
differently
from
where
we
are
where
most
of
them
are
doing
right
now.
A
M
A
G
There's
ways
to
have
the
owner
masked
so
that
you
can't
find
out
who
it
actually
is,
and
if
there's
some
momentum
to
eliminate
that
kind
of
like
we
have
the
doing
business
as
way
that
people
can
kind
of
create
an
entity
but
but
we're
able
to
find
out
who's
behind
it.
So
I
I
would
like
it
like
with
the
with
the
internet
for
websites,
if
we
can
find
out
who
the
actual
owners
are
who's.
Providing
this
information,
I
I
would
appreciate
it.
I
did
just
kind
of
for
out
of
curiosity.
G
A
I
did,
I
think,
that
out
of
the
categories
that
they
provide,
transportation
and
communications
makes
the
most
sense,
and
you
know
hopefully
this
will
help
to
perhaps
carve
out
a
new
more
specific
category.
For
this
type
of
you
know,
maybe
truth
in
advertising
and
in
the
public
sphere,
you
know
type
of
sentiment
but
by.
I
also
think
that
you
know
where
we're
at
right
now
with
the
ability
to
communicate
so
quickly
to
so
many
people.
A
It's
an
issue
that
we
need
to
remedy,
and
I
appreciate
the
support
to
try
to
you
know
put
this
into
a
national
platform.
I
mean,
I
often
think
that
you
know
here.
If
you
basically
have
very
limited
control
of
messaging,
then
it's
probably
good
to
you
know,
try
to
appeal
to
a
broader
audience
and
we'll
see
we'll
see
if
this
is
something
that
resonates
on
a
more
wide
scale
level.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much,
councilmember
moore
and
yeah.
I
I
think
this
opens
door
to
a
lot
of
really
important
and
you
know
extensive
conversations.
But
again
you
know
I
appreciate
my
colleagues
for
expressing
support
and
willingness
to
allow
us
to
move
forward
with
this.
So
council
member
will
you
have
your
hand
raised
before.
N
90
is
going
to
be
on
the
transportation
and
bart,
and
things
like
that,
as
opposed
to
the
communication.
So
what
I
would
be
tossing
out
is
a
category
democracy
in
a
changing
world.
You
know
something
that
makes
no
no
confusion
about.
What's
going
to
be
under
that
in
that
category,
other
cities
want
to,
you
know,
be
following
guidance
or
coming.
You
know
trying
to
get
their
own
ideas.
Oh
democracy,
in
a
changing
world,
yep
we're
going
through
those
struggles.
Well,.
A
Thank
you
very
much
council
member
willie
for
for
the
thoughts
on
this,
and
I
will
say,
cupertino
has
not
participated
in
the
us
conference
of
mayor
mayors
for
a
number
of
years.
As
far
as
I'm
I'm
aware
and
have
been
on
council
for
seven
years,
and
so
this
is
a
good
opportunity
to
start
that
conversation,
I'm
happy
to
report
back
out
to
our
council
as
to
how
that
went
and
whether
there's
progress
in
kind
of
formulating
you
know
a
new
type
of
category
for
consideration
here.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk,
we're
at
the
end
of
our
at
the
end
of
our
consent
calendar
in
accordance
to
our
postponements
and
orders
of
the
day.
We
are
continuing
the
cip
item
from
our
special
meeting
prior
to
this
regular
meeting,
and
so
let's
go
ahead
and
let's
go
ahead
and
start
with
that
again
in
five
minutes:
it's
10
25
and
so
we'll
reconvene
at
10
31
on
this
prior
to
going
back
to
the
continuation
of
our
cip
item.
Thanks,
we'll
see
you
in
five
minutes.
A
A
A
So
let's
bring
this
back
I'll,
give
a
reminder
of
where
we
were
at.
In
our
discussion
we
had
had
the
staff
report
we
had
heard
from
members
of
the
public.
We
were
in
the
middle
of
deliberation.
I
had
suggested
a
potential
motion
to
put
on
the
diocese
and
madison
clerk.
Could
you
remind
us,
did
that
motion
make
it
with
a
second?
I
I
don't
recall
at
this
point.
A
Oh
second,
by
the
vice
michelle,
okay,
and
so
let
me
go
ahead
and
I
let
me
go
ahead
and
share
that
on
my
screen
here,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
that
motion
for
the
purposes
of
our
starting
point
on
this
discussion
here
and
so
I'll
read
it
back
into
the
record.
I
apologize
for
the
you
know,
lack
of
capitalizations
in
certain
areas.
I
move
that
council
support,
putting
forward
10,
455,
torrey
avenue,
upgrades
and
the
cip
to
allow
for
office
space
use
for
city
hall
employees.
A
With
regard
to
city
hall,
I
further
move
the
council
colon
provide
direction
to
staff
to
reduce
above
surface
parking
impacts,
semicon
call
and
provide
direction
to
staff,
to
be
conscious
of
costs
and
to
provide
a
plan
for
cost
auditing
semicolon
provide
direction
to
staff
the
city
complete
the
process
for
securing
a
procurement
officer
for
an
auditing
mechanism.
Before
proceeding
with
further
estimates
further,
I
move
that
council
direct
staff
in
future
years
to
refer
to
the
planning
commission
for
input
on
the
proposed
cip
projects,
in
addition
to
an
assessment
of
conformance
with
the
general
plan.
A
Further,
I
move
that
council
direct
staff
to
inform
council
and
the
public
of
what
the
funds
for
the
westport
project
park
mitigation
fees
are
being
allocated
towards
further.
I
move
that
council
direct
staff
to
return
to
the
public
with
a
study
session
on
memorial
park
consistent
with
or
at
least
addressing
the
recommendations
of
the
parks
and
rec
master
plan.
So
that
was
a
motion
on
the
diocese
that
we
were
discussing
at
that
point
and
I
believe
that
the
last
comment
had
been
from
councilmember
moore.
G
G
G
The
ranking
of
projects
will
be
used
to
allocate
resources
to
ensure
priority
projects
are
completed
effectively
and
efficiently,
and
I
know
we
did
mention
something
about
city,
the
the
change
the
of
the
city
hall
project
changes
to
the
cip,
such
as
addition
of
new
projects,
changes
in
scope
and
cost
of
a
project
or
re-prioritization
of
projects
will
require
city
manager
and
city
council
approval.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
following
these
these
policies.
Thank
you.
A
N
N
N
N
So,
if
you're,
looking
at
a
30
years,
you're
actually
looking
at
334
000
per
month
and
to
me
that
just
doesn't
belong
in
the
same
category
as
our
typical
projects
and
to
get
something
like
that
off
the
ground
and
moving.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
several
sessions
where
city
council
gets
to
help
guide
city
staff
now
get
to
that
guiding
part.
The
things
that
I
see
is
number
one,
and
these
are
the
things
that
would
be,
I
think,
should
be
coming
to
us.
N
N
So
number
one
is:
what's
that
status
number
two
is
going
to
be
when
you're
going
to
bring
something
massive
if
we're
talking
about
a
splash
pad.
Okay,
take
the
ball
and
run
with
it,
and
we
may
make
some
adjustments
at
the
tail
end.
But
for
something
like
this,
I
think
clearly
we
need
to
understand
what
the
options
are
and
the
fiscal.
N
For
us
to
be
able
to
revise
their
their
regular
updates
to
us
such
that,
if
they
were
to
put
out
something
that
either
was
too
far
from
what
were
we're.
Thinking
is
right
for
what
we
think
is
right
for
our
community.
We,
we
steer
them
back
or
the
opposite.
They
show
us
something:
hey,
there's
some
cracked
concrete
beams
and
you
know
there's
just
really
nothing
feasible
to
to
do
with
it,
and
we
need
to
do
these
other
things.
And
so
then
we
can
say:
okay,.
N
We
we
really
do
need
to
understand
the
options
and,
and
then
the
the
parking
already
brought
up,
and
so
oh
and
then
the
last
one
being
we
purchased
torrey
torrey
is
5600
square
feet.
If
you
use
the
200
square
foot
per
employee
that
supposedly
apple
likes
to
use.
I
think
earlier
tonight
public
works
said
that
city
hall
is
like
168
or
180
square
foot
feet
per
person,
which
is
pretty
pretty
reasonable.
N
Like
I
said
previously
on
another
night
saying,
sandhill
was
promoting
main
street
office
buildings
in
three
different
configurations
that
were
you
know,
way
below
the
200
square
feet.
But
if
we
did
use
200
5600
divided
by
200
means
there's
28
employees
right
off
the
bat
that
can
be
moved
from
city
hall
over
to
the
city
hall,
annex
hattori,
to
relieve
you
know
some
of
that
pressure.
One
other
item
I
did
go
back
and
I
re-watched
the
2019
cip
city
hall
agenda
item
that
came
to
us
and
roger
lee
said.
N
N
Taking
the
the
stance
that
all
of
city
hall
has
to
be
brought
up
to
eoc
level,
it's
up
to
city
staff
to
help
the
whole
community
understand
normal
buildings
of
bill
with
a
redundancy
factor
of
1.0,
and
they
they
have
a
risk
factor
of
either
one
or
two
and
when
you
start
talking,
eoc
or
hospitals
with
emergency
rooms.
That
redundancy
goes
up
to
1.5.
N
So
I'll
leave
it
with
that,
but
I
hope
city
staff.
I
hope
our
city
manager
will
have
city
staff,
bring
us
either
number
one.
Well
all
of
the
above.
What
the
statuses
of
this
last
year,
cip,
item
number
seven
for
500
000,
I'm
definitely
supportive
of
putting
cip
dollars
into
city
hall.
Evaluation
work.
N
I
would
hope
it's
going
to
complement,
has
all
of
the
500
000
been
spent
or
is
it
you
know
300
spent,
and
we
still
have
200
for
what
I'm
suggesting
that
we
have
these
back
and
forth
meetings
over,
say
the
next
12
months
to
kind
of
determine
the
right
right
plan
for
the
city.
It
would
it
be
a
500,
000
effort.
A
G
I
I
feel
as
though
this
this
list
of
seven
projects
was
being
held
up
by
the
april
2022
report
for
city
hall
improvements,
and
that
we
could
have
received
this
in
a
more
timely
manner.
Had
that
staff
not
not
do
that
and
and
if
you
look
at
the
items
on
the
list,
I
think
you
can
you
you
might
agree
with
with
my
assessment
when
I
look
at
last
year's
cip.
G
When
I
look
at
the
dashboard,
it's
saying
complete,
completing
the
ada
evaluation
and
design
by
may
of
2022,
and
the
completion
is
now
slid
out
into
february
2023,
and
on
top
of
this,
we've
got
this
blackberry
farms
pool
splash
pad.
So
if
we
add
this,
we're
now
at
you
know,
1.2
over
1.2
million
dollars
being
allocated
for
that
facility
and
and
the
budget's
kind
of
extended.
G
The
the
cip
project
would
be
initiated
at
this
time,
and
approximate
cost
would
be
two
million
dollars.
I
do
appreciate
that
we're
looking
at
that
cost
dropping
to
to
looks
like
one
million
dollars,
but
they
do
reference.
A
report
which
I
can't
recall,
having
seen,
which
is
the
city
lighting,
led
transition
assessment
report.
G
So
the
project
description
we
have
for
the
one
million
dollars
is
to
implement
the
results
of
the
fiscal
year.
21
22
city
lighting
led
transition
assessment,
so
I
I
would
like
to
see
the
the
contract
for
this
assessment
and
the
results
of
the
assessment
and
and
how
much
was
was
billed
for
that
and-
and
I
think
that
for
for
each
of
these
items
I
would
if
there
was
a
report
that
was
supposed
to
happen.
G
I
I
would
want
to
be
able
to
see
the
the
contract
and
the
the
work
product
that
happened
for
it
and
so
for
for
the
for
our
process.
I'm
wondering
what
what
we're
trying
to
do
moving
forward
since
we
do
have
the
requirements
to
rank
these
items,
and
I
also
want
to
just
remind
remind
ourselves
that
the
projects
included
in
the
cip
will
have
complete
information
on
the
need
for
the
project,
description,
scope
of
work,
total
cost
estimates,
future
cost
estimates,
future
operating
and
maintenance
cost
and
how
the
project
will
be
funded.
G
So
for
the
for
the
big
projects,
the
the
bigger
projects,
the
79.6
million
dollars,
I
do
not
understand
how
that
project
is,
is
supposed
to
be
funded,
and
that
is
supposed
to
be
part
of
our
our
package.
What
we're
looking
at
so
I
do
think
we
are
missing
some
information
and
then
we
do
need
to
provide
a
pr
prioritization.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
moore.
Would
anyone
on
staff
like
to
speak
to
any
of
the
comments
of
either
councilman
willie
or
councilmember
moore?
I
I
think
one
of
the
comments
made
was
regarding
the
prioritization
of
cip
items
or
any
of
the
other
comments
raised
by
the
priority
council
members
and
city
manager
troop.
I
think
you
had
turned
on
your
microphone.
I
Yeah,
absolutely
absolutely
thank
you
for
the
questions
so
to
council,
member
moore's
questions
or
comments.
There's
there's
a
couple
items
that
that
we
can
provide
information
on
with
respect
to
to
the
work
in
the
pool
at
blackberry
farm.
That
work
is
mostly
plaster
work
inside
in
the
pools
and
that
we're
just
getting
the
contract
completed
now,
so
that
work
will
need
to
take
place
following
the
spring.
I
The
summer
season,
so
we'll
be
queued
up
to
take
care
of
that
work
in
100
days,
essentially
because
the
pools
are
set
to
open
with
respect
to
the
street,
the
le
led
lighting.
That
report
is
being
finalized
as
we
speak,
so
we
would
expect
to
have
that
in
the
next
week
week
and
a
half
and
be
able
to
to
share
that
at
that
point,
and
then
that
would
lead
ultimately
to
to
a
project
to
replace
the
led
lighting
or
replace
the
lighting
with
led,
and
that
would
be
a
contract.
I
One
of
the
things
that
staff
staff
brings
forward
to
to
the
council
during
the
proposed
budget,
so
the
study
session
leads
into
the
proposed.
So
the
idea
would
be
that
we
would
receive
your
feedback
and
that
would
educate
us
in
ranking
the
projects
for
council
consideration
at
the
proposed
budget
time,
and
so
that's
sort
of
the
process
that
we're
in
now
it's
an
innovative
process
and
one
that
we
work
in
as
a
team
with
with
the
council
on
and
then
with
respect
to
identifying
funding
for
projects.
I
So,
when
you're
looking
at
big
projects,
whether
it
be
a
a
big
facility,
construction
like
a
city
hall,
building
or
a
project
like
a
bridge,
it's
not
uncommon
to
to
proceed
with
the
design
even
up
to
further
along
the
design.
But
even
up
to
like
the
35
point,
where
you
have
a
good
co,
a
good
comfortable
idea
of
what
the
project
is.
So
you
can
start
to
nail
down
the
cost
of
the
project,
and
then
that
leads
you
into
the
to
the
full
funding
element.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
director
morley
director.
Let
me
ask
you
a
quick
follow-up
question
here.
If
city
council
and
the
public
are
not
sold
on
the
idea
of
building
a
three-story
external
parking
lot
in
the
civic
center
lot
overlooking
the
adjoining
neighborhood,
I
mean
what
would
be
the
point
of
proceeding
as
you
describe
in
order
to
seek
funding
sources
if
it's
not
agreed
upon
that,
that's
really
the
optimal
or
even
remotely
desired
manner
of
going
about
it.
A
I
That's
a
great
a
great
point,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
the
life
cycle
of
a
project,
it
starts
out
with
a
very
broad
scope.
It's
sort
of
like
a
funnel
we're
at
the
top
of
the
funnel,
where
our
scope
is
very
broad
and
because
of
that,
it's
very
difficult
to
hone
in
on
on
the
cost,
and
we
need
to
narrow
that
down
toward
as
we
get
towards
the
point
of
the
funnel.
I
So
as
we're
at
the
beginning
of
the
project
life
cycle,
where
we're
we're
using
using
making
some
assumptions
to
to
get
us
started,
those
assumptions
can
certainly
change
along
the
way
and
that
change
would
come
through
the
guidance
of
the
council.
So
we
would
be
looking.
You
know.
We
start
with
a
three-story
three-story
garage
to
help
us
with
with
a
scoping
and
a
conversation,
and
then
that
leads
us
into
you
know.
I
Maybe
it's
one
story
underground
two
stories
above
ground
and
that
so
becomes
less
less
of
a
significant
structure
to
to
the
community
or
maybe
there's
another
option
where
it's
a
longer
garage
versus
a
taller
garage.
So
those
are
options
that
we
can
explore
and
we
do
that
through
through
the
iterative
process,
but
we
needed
a
starting
point
and
something
to
to
to
allow
us
to
move
forward.
A
I
Yeah
absolutely
yeah,
absolutely
we.
We
went
with
a
conservative
in
terms
of
of
cost,
so
an
above
ground
structure
is
significantly
more
affordable
than
than
a
below
ground
structure,
but
we
can.
We
can
explore
a
blow
but
below
ground
or
a
subsurface
structure
of
some
sort
and
and
we
can
weigh
that
the
the
cost
and
the
benefit
of
both
with
with
the
council
through
the
process.
If,
if
that's
the
direction,
the
council
would
like
to
go,
I
see.
A
J
So
before
the
staff
wants
to
go
ahead
and
change
the
scope,
bring
that
to
the
council
for
council
approval
that
you
want
to
consider
parking,
which
is
not
included
here,
that
you
want
to
consider
adding
space
to
city
hall.
That's
not
included
here,
what's
included
here,
is
renovation
and
current
need
and
just
bring
it
up
to
the
code
standard.
So
if
the
staff
has
a
different
recommendation,
agenda
is
an
item
to
seek
the
council
approval
directly
and
allow
the
public
to
provide
input.
J
Similarly,
for
the
lorry
avenue
on,
I
think
the
lower
avenue
the
tory
avenue
building
again,
the
the
adopted
item
is
to
first
talk
about
the
use
of
this
facility
and
complete
programming
and
conceptual
design,
but
that
first
step
is
to
bring
it
to
the
console
to
get
console
direction
and
approval
and
allow
the
public
to
come
to
provide
input
rather
than
complete
the
whole
thing
and
then
come
to
the
council
to
get
funding
for
for
construction.
That's
really
not
the
appropriate
public
process.
J
So,
even
though
I
stuck
into
the
darcy's
motion
for
the
purpose
of
discussion,
what
I
would
like
is
to
make
a
motion
on
another
substitute
motion
to
include
a
few
items
that
I
have
listed
here.
I
will
go
over
so
first
city
hall
related
keep
the
description
of
the
adopted
plan
until
a
separate
agenda
item
is
brought
forward
from
update
and
any
request
to
modify
the
scope
of
the
project,
provide
information
on
other
public
buildings,
that's
30
years
old
or
older,
and
whether
they
have
been
rebuilt
or
or
only
did,
earthquake
retrofit.
J
And
how
much
is
it
if
the
staff
really
think
we
need
to
rebuild
city
hall
and
let's
also
keep
the
description
of
the
adopted
ci
people
inventory
until
it's
brought
to
the
council
for
direction
and
then
then
you
can
finalize
the
programming
and
planning
and
then
for
memorial
park.
I
would
like
to
see
the
memorial
park.
Master
plan
still
be
the
first
step
so
that
we
can
play
with
the
parks
and
record
master
plan.
J
The
council
adopted
to
obtain
community
input
and
consensus
to
assist
in
formulating
plans
to
renovate
portions
of
the
park,
including
parking
requirement.
Upgrade
of
the
surrounding
facilities
as
specified
in
the
fiscal
year,
1920
cip
plan,
and
then
I
would
like
to
postpone
memorial
park
pond
repurposing
until
memorial
park.
Mass
pleasure
plan
is
complete
that
area.
J
J
Just
like
the
work
program
and
similar
floor
planning
and
I'd
like
to
see
the
major
recreational
facilities
item
removed
until
we
have
a
financing
option
for
other,
currently
unfunded
projects,
analyze,
the
and
and
then
I'd
like
to
see
on
this
splash
pad
from
blackberry
from
removed,
so
that
we
comply
with
the
parks
and
rec
master
plan
which
says
water.
Play
areas
should
be
geographically
dispersed
throughout
the
city.
J
J
J
A
I
I
Our
point
of
the
of
the
study
session
is
to
get
the
ideas
of
the
council
what
the
needs
and
the
priorities
of
the
council
are
so
so
going
from
council
member
to
council,
member
and
providing
input
certainly
provides
us
education
in
what
we
should
look
at
in
modifying
and
and
bringing
to
you
the
proposed
budget
at
the
next
council
meeting.
So
that's
sort
of
the
step
we're
at
now.
N
That
that's
a
slide
from
2019,
where
one
of
the
options
for
the
parking
was
to
use
the
edge
of
library
field.
If
I
do
a
rough
count,
it
looks
like
that's
like
about
80
parking
spaces
there
and
for
the
most
part,
you
know
minimal
expense.
I
think
when,
when
this
was
on
the
city
council,
I
think
they
said
that
that
was
about
a
million
dollars
to
put
in
those,
it
sure
looks
to
me
about
80
parking
spaces.
N
That's
just
information
for
matt.
You
know
in
terms
of
options
now
to
go
back
to
vice
mayor's
motion
yeah.
I
I
really
fully
support
it.
The
only
comments
would
I
would
have.
Is
man
those
dead
pawns
have
been
dead
for
so
long.
We
just
had
a
cherry
blossom
festival
there.
I'd
like
to
not
see
it.
You
know
just
continue
to
to
languish.
N
I
mean
that
is
our
flagship
park,
and
yet
it's
really
eight
years
now
the
bollinger
road
improvements.
Yes,
there
was
a
death
there,
I'd
really
like
to
get
some
input
from
the
bike
and
ped
commission
and
how
that
might
rank
with
respect
to
the
2016
bike
and
ped
project.
I
mean
here
we
are
creating
a
project,
a
death
was
there,
but
they
should
also
be
weighing
in
how
do
they
see
that
safety
versus
the
safety
of
their
other
ones?
N
A
A
K
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
I've
read
the
packages
real
quickly
and
I
want
to
actually
thank
director
morley
to
be
on
board
so
fast
and
and
also
for
susan,
for
the
capital
improvement
program
managers
to
explain
things
real.
Clearly,
at
least
to
me,
I
was
looking
at
blackberry
from
poor
splash.
Blackberry
farm
is
a
very
popular
well-used
facility
and
I
look
at
the
reason
why
it's,
because
that
slide
is
aged
and
needs
to
be
either
replaced
or
fixed
and
a
splash
pool
seems
to
be
a
good
fit.
K
I
understand
the
the
desire
to
be
equitable,
but
this
is
a
place
that
we
already
have
and
can
be
finished
really
fast
and
our
residents
and
really
enjoyed
it.
It's
not
far
from
anywhere
from
our
city.
So
I
actually
like
that
blackberry
farm
full
splash
pad
project
because
it
would
benefit
the
summer
is
coming
and
people
are
coming
out
and
I
I
think
the
reason
is
very
clear.
K
I
agree
that
we
have
we
bought
tory
and
we
need
to
work
on
it
and
have
you
know,
proposals
on
it?
We
can
have
our
emergency
places
out
of
the
city
hall,
but
if
I
listen
carefully
what
susan
has
presented
to
retrofit
the
the
city
hall,
it
needs
to
be
retrofit.
I
was
looking
at
a
page
and
it
alarms
me
when
I
was
reading
a
the
four
reports
and
one
of
them
says
our
emergency
generator
has
a
thousand
pound
of
fuel
right
outside
of
that
generator.
K
It
is
not
safe,
and
I
understand
that
we
have
a
desire
not
to
spend
too
much
money
and
use
our
money
wisely
and
prudently.
So
I
think
we
need
maybe
more
research
of
how
we
can
how
much
it
costs
to
retrofit
it,
because
if
I
hear
it
correctly
on
susan's
presentation,
one
remodeling
will
trigger
another
lot.
K
We
have
to
do
another
thing,
so
maybe
we
just
didn't
get
exactly
of
the
amount
of
money
to
retrofit
it
and
an
order
amount
of
money
to
rebuild
it,
and
I
do
believe
we
won't
have
to
revisit
that
report
and
get
a
clear
picture
of
how
much
it
costs
to
retrofit
it
to
make
it
safe.
And
how
much
is
it
worth
to
redo
it
and
as
the
space?
I
understand
people,
you
know
where
our
theory
is,
we
have
tori.
K
Maybe
we
can
use
the
other
place
for
our
emergency
team,
but
if
we
do
need
to
re,
if
it's
not
worth
to
retrofit
it
and
it's
the
money
is
worse
to
rebuild
it,
then
adding
the
square
footage
for
community
use
to
benefit
the
whole
city
makes
sense.
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
clear,
a
more
clear
picture
of
what
it
looks
like
and
today
I
do
consider
it.
This
is
agendas
for
council
input
like
director
morley,
says
they're
looking
for
directions,
and
so
this
is
in
the
public
input.
So
I
feel
the
process.
K
K
It
seems
brand
new
to
me
and
I
need
to
really
absorb
it,
because
everything
on
it
is
brand
new
in
addition
to
the
seven
things
we're
looking
at
so
to
me,
I
don't
think
I
can
even
vote
on
it
right
now
and
a
lot
of
them
are
on
our
city
work
plan
proposals.
So
I
think
we
got
a
little
mixed
up.
Oh
so
I
I
need
time
to
re
absorb
that
list,
because
that
list
is
totally
different
from
the
seven
list
we're
getting
today.
That's
my
comment.
G
G
With
regards
to
those
improvements,
I
would,
I
personally
would
prefer
that
we
had
a
a
master
plan
rather
than
doing
piecemeal
improvements,
because
I
think
we
could
end
up
wishing
that
we
didn't
fix
certain
areas
up,
because
we
want
to
use
them
a
little
bit
differently
in
the
future.
So
I'd
rather
see
a
comprehensive
plan
for
the
entire
area
moving
along
for
cip
items
here.
G
So
I
just,
I
think,
we're
a
little
bit
premature
without
without
having
our
work
program
completely
finalized
and
we
do
have
seismic
retrofits
and
upgrades
to
existing
city
hall
and,
and
that
had
been
on
our
previous
program.
We
have
the
torrey
avenue
improvements
to
prioritize
as
well
and
blackberry.
Farm
golf
course
needs
assessment.
G
Is
there
so
I
I
have
all
along
had
a
little
confusion
with
having
cip
mixed
in
with
a
work
plan,
but
it
seems
that
we
need
to
finish
finish
up
the
work
plan
listings
and
if
so,
if
someone
could
tell
me
what
our
next
steps
are
here,
I'd
appreciate
it.
What
are
when
we
have
to
have
this
this
completed?
G
A
Okay,
thank
you
councilmember
moore.
Well,
in
the
immediate
we
do
have
a
motion
in
a
substitute
motion.
The
substitute
motion,
I
believe,
is
on
the
table
because
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
councilman
willie
did
you
suck
in
the
substitute
motion.
You
did
right,
you
want
to
okay,
so
let
me
just
check
with
our
city
clerk
kirsten.
Was
there
a
second
for
the
the
substitute
motion
it
was.
N
N
J
A
C
A
Requests
for
modification.
Do
you
first
of
all
do
and
I
I
don't
accept
the
idea
that
you
want
clarification
and
then
you
know
hearing
an
extemporization
of
someone
else's
comments.
Okay,
so
do
you
accept
council,
member
willie's
modifications
to
your
motion?
If
you
do
not
council
member
willie
has
already
expressed
a
willingness
to
second,
your
substitute
motion,
so
I
just
want
to.
J
J
N
J
A
C
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
city
attorney
johnson.
So
all
right,
we
have
a
substitute
motion
on
the
table.
That
is
vice
mayor
chow's
motion
and
I
do
have
an
order
of
commentary.
I
believe
that
we
were
at
was
it
councilmember
moore
before
counting
the
vice
mayor,
chow
and
then
myself?
Is
that
correct?
A
Someone
helped
me
refresh
my
recollection
here
because
I
think
it
was
council
member
way
and
councilmember
willie
is
gone.
Councilman
moore,
you
had
your
hand
raised
as
well
as
vice
mayor
chow.
I
think
I'm
not
100
certain
on
that.
Vice
march,
you
might
have
been
next,
but
I
did
say
that
I
wanted
to
speak
on
some
of
these
items
as
well,
so
vice
martin
councilmember.
Do
you
remember
if
you
had
your
hand
raised
prior
to.
G
G
A
A
G
Read
correct
so
so,
if
you
look
at
the
staff
report,
it's
it's
kind
of
a
little
confusing.
Consider
a
study
session
on
the
capital
improvement,
cip,
including
review
of
the
five-year
cip,
22-27
and
new
proposed
projects
for
22-23,
receive
a
report
on
the
five-year
cip,
okay,
which
I
don't
really
recall,
hearing
it,
including
new
proposed
projects
for
fiscal
year,
22
to
23,
and
then,
let's
see
the
fiscal
year
22.
A
A
We
we
do
have
these
projections
in
front
of
us,
and
so,
if
we
fail
to
comment,
for
instance
on
some
of
them,
then
I
I
don't
think
that
we're
necessarily
accepting
them
by
by
silence,
but
I
I
think
you
know
we
would
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
if
we
had
some
thoughts
on.
You
know
four-year
projections
outside
of
this
upcoming
fiscal
year.
So
I
think
vice
mayor
ciao
was
next
on
on
the.
A
At
this
point,
and
then
I'll
go
to
my
own
comments
and
then
I
think
that
it
would
probably
behoove
us
to
go
ahead
and
at
least
try
to
provide
some
direction.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
motions,
a
substantive
motion
as
well
as
the
original
motion,
so
vice
mayor,
ciao
yeah.
Some
follow-up
comments
at
this
point.
J
Yeah
I'd
like
to
clarify
so
in
my
motion,
everything
is
from
today's
seven
new
items.
I
only
added
two
items,
which
is
the
dog
park,
amenities
and
the
bollinger
bike
path,
which
is
from
one
of
the
23
to
27
list.
So
those
are
so
that
even
the
bollinger
one
is
in
the
agenda.
I
turned
today
they
only
added
the
amenity
for
dog
park.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you
vice
mayor,
and
so
you
know
I'll
go
ahead
with
my
my
follow-on
comments
here
with
regard
to
completing
our
current
fiscal
year,
capital
improvement
programs
items
and
the
descriptions.
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
do
so
for
10,
455,
torrey
avenue.
I'm
just
gonna
go
ahead
and
share
what
I
would
put
in
as
a
modification
to
my
original
motion
if
that
were
on
the
table,
and
so
we
can
just
capture
that.
So
let
me
give
me
one
moment,
sorry
about
that.
A
All
right,
so
I
I
would
have
modified
my
commentary
on
the
10
45
torrey
avenue
space.
I
was
compelled
by
something
that
vice
mayor
chao
said
a
couple
of
iterations
ago.
In
our
comments
with
regard
to
the
current
capital
improvement
improvements
program
description.
I
think
that
is
a
good
idea
to
complete
that
process.
Prior
to
you
know,
deferral
and,
I
think
that's
an
integral
part
of
the
city
hall,
employment
equation.
A
Councilmember
willie
had
recommended
that
we
look
at
the
option
of
locating
the
emergency
operations
center
or
the
eoc
in
a
location
other
than
city
hall,
to
see
if
it
would
impact
the
cost
projection
of
city
hall
or
perhaps
even
provide
us
some
additional
options.
If,
if
there
are
some
cost
savings,
I
think
the
rest
of
it
is
identical
to
what
I
had
stated
previously
yeah
and
then,
with
regard
to
the
bollinger
project.
A
I
do
note
that,
based
upon
what
councilmember
moore
had
stated
that
we
do
have
the
bollinger
road
bike
improvements
on
this
category,
1u
projects
area
and
the
funding
projected
for
that
is
about
1.5
million,
with
a
cost
escalation
in
the
subsequent
fiscal
year
to
1.575
million
dollars.
But
but
then
again
we're
not
being
asked
to
approve
the
fiscal
year.
2024
budget,
we're
just
you
know,
and
I
think
if
we
had
thoughts
on
that,
we
would
basically
say
do
we
perhaps
move
that
up
and
my
thought
on
this
would
be
I'm
in
complete
agreement.
A
You
know
if
people
have
if
people
have
gotten
killed
crossing
this.
This
is
a
this
is
a
definitive
priority,
and
so
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
be
working
with
west
san
jose
the
jurisdiction
of
san
jose
and
working
on
these.
These
improvements,
it's
it's
critically
necessary.
You
know
it's
not
just
one
person,
it
was
multiple
people,
multiple
pedestrians
that
have
gotten
killed
in
the
last.
I
think
year
to
two
so
yeah.
A
A
A
K
I
won't
do
two
points
I
I
do
agree
that
we
need
to
come
back
and
with
the
feedback
that
the
staff
can
give
us
to
it.
But
I
want
to
agree
with
this
council
member
more
that
okay,
vice
mayor
child
did
say
that
it's
included.
She
refers
to
everything.
It
does
including
seven
items,
but
the
scope
and
everything
has
changed.
So
I
really
need
the
staff
to
come
back.
For
example,
the
2122
plan
a
carmen
bridge
is
on
it.
It's
been
completed
because
there
was
no
problem
with
the
entitlement.
K
A
Yeah
I
I
mean
I
will
say
that
carmen
bridge
apparently
has
almost
a
million
dollars
for
design
in
the
next
fiscal
year
and
the
in
the
fiscal
year
after
that,
almost
five
million
dollars
for
construction,
but
we're
not
approving
any
of
these
things.
You
know
under
this
current
fiscal
year.
So
so,
let's
go
ahead.
Councilmember
moore
did
you
have
some
follow-on
comments
at
this
point
briefly,.
G
You
know
I
wish
I
wish
it
was
highlighted
more
rather
than
just
the
focus
on
the
seven,
because
we
actually
have
a
whole
menu
of
other
other
options
and
if
you
are
reducing
the
the
cost
of
the
city
hall
renovation
by
looking
at
different
different
ways
of
getting
a
satisfying
result
there.
There
are
some
less
expensive
projects
which
I
think
could
provide
a
lot
of
good
public
use.
G
For
instance,
the
blackberry
farm
bocce
ball,
shade
structure,
linda
vista
park
area,
shade
structure,
portal
portal
park,
picnic
area,
shade
structure,
the
dola
pathway
at
jolly
man,
the
skylight
renovation
at
this
quinlan
community
center.
To
me,
that
sounds
like,
like
a
maintenance
issue
that
we
really
would
want
to
get
after,
not
not
leave
that
behind
memorial
park
park,
a
softball
field
led
lighting
up
upgrade
also
sounds
affordable
and
we'd
get
a
lot
of.
G
We
get
a
lot
of
bang
for
our
buck
for
for
taking
on
these
projects,
so
I
I'm
hoping
that
and
of
course,
the
the
bollinger
road
bike
improvements
at
the
1.5
million.
I'm
hoping
that
the
the
reallocation
or
reconsideration
of
the
the
city
hall
project
is
actually
freeing
up
money
for
for
some
of
these
smaller
projects,
which
I
think
will
provide
some
good
benefits
for
the
public.
A
We
have
substituent
motion
on
the
table.
There
was
also
an
original
motion,
but
I'd
like
to
give
the
opportunity
to
staff
to
come
back
based
upon
our
feedback
this
evening.
If
some
of
this
material
changes
in
an
upcoming
city
council
meeting
such
as
the
one
on
may
17th,
what
are
our
options
with
regard
to
the
motions
that
are
in
front
of
us
at
this
point?
A
C
A
C
H
Thank
you,
mayor
council,
you
know
that
is
something
we
could
do
is
come
back
with
a
continuation
of
the
of
a
study
session.
I
was
going
to
say
this
is
a
study
session,
so
it's
really
giving
us
direction
to
come
back
with
what
we're
we
we're
going
to
present
or
we
do
present
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
If
there
is
need
for
more
discussion,
then
we
could
continue
that
at
that
point
too,.
A
Let's
do
that,
let's
go
ahead
and
continue
based
upon
our
discussion
this
evening
we
have
a
couple
motions:
the
substitute
motions,
that's
on
the
table
and
the
original
motion
as
well
and
so
we'll.
You
know
very
much
look
forward
to
what
staff
brings
back
to
us
on
may
17th
and
so
I'll
I'll
put
another
emotion
on
the
table
to
bring
this
back
to
the
day
certain
of
may
17
2022,
based
upon
the
feedback
that
we
have
here
tonight.
I
may
have
a
second
for
that
motion.
J
C
C
C
J
A
N
N
A
J
My
earlier
comment
is,
I
would
like
to
amend
my
motion
with
two
items:
first,
for
eoc
exam,
I'm,
including
councilmember
willis
proposal
to
examine
the
effects
of
the
option
of
locating
eoc
in
other
locations,
rather
than
city
hall,
such
as
a
service
center
and
the
second
to
bring
back
more
detailed
cost
estimates
of
common
bridge
projects,
because,
right
now
the
cost
is
at
about
almost
5.5
million
dollars.
So
I
am
one
I
wonder:
what's
how
is
that
derived
that
would
help
us
and
then
also
I'm,
I
think
the
councilman.
J
J
A
J
A
President,
this
is
completely
immaterial
to
whether
you
know
you're
going
to
add
something
and
basically
say:
I'm
not
going
to
add
this
because
of
this,
because
if
you
did
that,
then
we
opened
the
entire
universe
of
topics
to
stuff
that
you're
not
going
to
put
in
your
motion.
Okay,
so
let's
go
ahead.
L
A
Councilmember
willie
whether
he
would
agree
to
the
two
amendments
that
you've
delineated
to
add
to
your
motion:
council
member
willie.
Are
you
okay
with
adding
those
two
items
to
the
substitute
motion
that
vice
mayor
chao?
Has?
Yes,
okay,
all
right
advice,
my
trial,
I'm
going
to
shut
this
down
right
now,
because
you
know.
A
It's
frankly,
frankly,
it's
immaterial
because
all
that
all
of
that
has
not
been
put
into
the
form
of
direction
as
voted
on
motion
and
so
staff
has
heard
all
of
this,
and
with
regard
to
the
follow-up,
we
will
go
ahead
and
leave
that
to
may
17th.
If
this
motion
procedurally
passes
and
so
madam
city
clerk,
would
you
allow
us
to
vote
with
our
lights
on
the
may
17th
motion
to
continue
this
item
until
that
date
is
certain.
Thank
you.
A
K
C
A
C
A
A
H
A
D
A
A
H
We
ran
in
because
we're
back
live
again.
We
ran
into
differences
like
I
spoke
last
time
when
we
did
have
the
one
and
we
had
to
do
rearranging
the
schedules,
because
people
had
already
booked
the
chamber.
So
it's
not
as
easy
as
when
we
were
virtual
to
do
that
so
and
also
we
have
a
number
of
staff
that
were
on
there.
So
I
don't
know
if
I
can
get
them
all
back
online.
That
would
be
very.
A
Difficult
I
mean
we
could,
we
could
notice
a
zoom
meeting
right.
We
could
notice
the
non-hybrid
meeting
if
we
wanted
to
do
a
continuation,
but
so
what
do
you
think
about
the
substance
being
pushed
back
two
weeks
of
these?
You
know
four
items
here
I
mean.
Is
that
something
that
we
could
perhaps
benefit
by
having
one
or
two
of
the
items?
At
least
I.
A
H
J
G
A
D
Yes,
mayor
quickly,
the
so
the
council
annuals
annually
recesses
from
its
regularly
established
meeting
schedule
during
the
summer.
This
is
routinely
based
on
canceling
one
or
two
council
meetings.
According
to
council
members
summer
schedules,
if
council
wishes
to
consider
any
meeting
cancellations,
please
take
note
that
wheat
abatement,
lien
assessment
must
be
approved
no
earlier
than
july
6
and
no
later
than
august
3rd.
Additionally,
national
night
out
is
on
tuesday
august
2nd,
which
is
a
regular
city
council
meeting
date
and
neighborhood
events
will
occur
on
the
same
evening,
and
that
is
all.
A
A
You
know
representatives
to
to
attend
national
night
out,
for
instance,
but
you
know
typically
in
in
my
experience
we
have
cancelled
a
couple
of
summer
summer
meetings,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
if
anyone
has
questions
at
this
point.
Councilmember.
Do
you
have
a
question,
or
can
I
have
a
second
for.
A
G
With
canceling
the
the
the
august
one
on
that's
on
national
night
out
august
second,
but
I
I
don't
agree
with
canceling
the
the
fifth
of
july
one
because
our
agenda
has
been
so
packed
and
we've
had
to
move
items
off
that
I'd
be
afraid,
especially
with
the
housing
element
needing
to
progress
that
that
we
might
get
caught
with
too
much
on
our
plate.
Okay,.
A
So
we
have
also
in
the
past.
I
think
this
probably
affects
your
affects
your
reaction
to
this.
We
have,
in
the
past
also
canceled
the
first
meeting
in
september
due
to
the
fact
of
the
labor
day
holiday
and
that
first
monday,
so
councilmember.
Let
me
just
ask
you
you
would
also
I
take
it
not
be
in
favor
of
canceling
the
first
meeting
in
september.
Is
that
correct?
A
That's
true,
okay,
so
so
so,
council,
member
more
suggestion
that
we
suggesting
that
we
cancel
only
august
2nd
I'd,
be
happy
to
make
an
amendment.
To
my
motion
I
mean
I,
I
hear
what
you're
saying
it
is
a
very
important
year
and
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
amend
the
motion
to
suggest
counseling
cancelling
the
august
2nd.
It
is
august,
2nd,
correct,
madam
city
clerk,
first
tuesday,
okay,
the
august
2nd
meeting
of
the
of
the
cupertino
city
council
this
year.
Vice
mayor
ciao,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Would
you
like
to
second
that
motion.
A
J
J
There
might
not
be
staff
around
the
week
before
to
prepare
the
agenda,
and
if
we
cancel
that
regular
meeting
we
can
always
add
a
special
meeting
on
any
day
in
july,
so
we
still
have
two
meetings
in
july,
so
that
doesn't
really
limit
us
from
adding
spatial
meeting.
If
we
need
for
housing
element,
that's
yeah.
G
Councilman
more,
you
have
comment.
Yes,
I
don't
know
if
if
anyone
else
has
looked
at
the
the
cost
of
air
travel
and
the
need
to
plan
at
least
two
weeks
in
advance
in
order
to
get
tickets,
but
I
was
getting
caught
last
year
with
this
rescheduling
of
meetings
that
seemed
like
they
were
popping
back
into
the
into
the
schedule.
So
I'd
rather
have
something
a
little
more
concrete
than
relying
on
having
having
a
meeting
show
up
unexpectedly.
A
K
A
You
know
my
inclination
is
to
say
you
know.
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I'd
love
to
go,
but
we
have
such
an
important
year
and
yeah,
and
so
I
I
think
the
sentiment
is
greatly
appreciated.
But
for
me,
I'm
actually
probably
that
much
more
available
in
july.
So
to
the
extent
that
we
have
city
business,
that
would
be
good
to
conduct,
and
you
know
we
are,
you
know,
kind
of
pushing
back
a
few
items
a
few
times
now.
A
N
N
N
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
councilmember
willie.
I
mean,
I
think
we
also
yeah
well
well,
the
sixth
is
wednesday
right,
and
so
I
suppose
we
could
we
could
move
to
the
seventh
as
well.
I
mean
you
know,
just
in
terms
of
you
know,
trying
to
trying
to
push
back
a
little
bit
further
a
week.
Does
staff
have
any
kind
of
you
know,
feedback
on
on
the
notion
of
moving
our
meeting
of
july
5th
back
further
in
the
same
week,.
H
M
A
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much
everyone.
We
do
have
a
few
items
that
we're
continuing
to
may
17th
and
so
with
that,
unless
jim
you'd
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
staff,
I'd
be
happy
to
adjourn
the
meeting
to
may
17th
with
our
continued
items
on
that
agenda
as
well.
Getting
nod:
okay!
Well!
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone,
a
good
productive
meeting.
We'll
have
you
know
a
couple
of
weeks.
Hence
we'll
be
reconsidering
the
items
that
we've
we've
continued.