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From YouTube: Housing Element Community Workshop - December 9, 2021
Description
The City of Cupertino provides this event as an opportunity for the public to engage with the Housing Element Update. You are invited to learn about the Housing Element Update during this first of two virtual meetings on the subject.
Recorded December 9, 2021
A
A
Thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight
is
our
first
housing
element
community
workshop,
we're
looking
forward
to
receiving
some
feedback
from
everybody,
whether
it's
on
the
process
or
topic
with
us
tonight
from
the
city
side.
It's
the
city
team,
that's
represented
by
the
planning
and
housing
divisions
in
the
next
slide.
You
will
see
some
of
these
names:
pugh
ghost
planning
manager,
managing
planning,
division,
john
martier
city,
planner,
luke,
connolly,
senior
planner.
A
We
have
eric
cleveda
associate
planner
carrie
hughesville,
the
housing
manager
in
charge
of
housing
division
as
well
as
gabriel
borton
senior
housing
planner.
We're
also
joined
tonight
with
our
consulting
partner,
emc
planning
group
led
by
principal
planner,
andy
flower.
I
want
me
to
do
them
any
justice
by
the
introduction,
but
on
the
overhead
you
will
see
their
names
and
andy
can
introduce
them
in
a
minute.
A
The
emc
team
brings
lots
of
experience
in
this
particular
field.
Their
their
team
consists
of
professionalism,
planning
and
design
communications,
environmental
review,
analysts,
and,
more
so,
like
I
said
I'll,
let
you
do
that.
Introduction
emc
shortly
will
be
guiding
the
workshop
tonight.
That
includes
presentation
with
background
on
the
housing
element,
information
process
and
a
new
simulator
city
staff
and
emc
will
also
be
available
for
questions
at
the
end.
A
If,
for
some
reason,
your
question
is
not
answered
live
tonight,
please
be
rest
assured
that
we
will
answer
them
and
visit
our
project
website,
which
also
be
shown
on
a
presentation
tonight.
With
that,
I
will
hand
this
off
to
andy
andy.
B
Thank
you
ben
so
happy
to
be
here.
We've
got
a
great
team
and
we're
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
whole
community,
our
team
we
have
tonight
and
through
this
whole
process,
I'm
andy
flower
principal
planner.
Here
at
emc
planning
group
we've
got
lauren
herr
associate
planner,
bmc
cleaning
group,
david
mason
els
architecture
and
urban
design,
samantha
suiter
from
meta
urban
design,
rachel
kane
from
more
skyless
ceiling,
kristen
masters
and
chris
keifer,
both
from
santa
cruz
nonviolent
communication.
B
B
We're
gonna
try
to
tap
your
imagination
and
bring
you
through
our
cucutino
housing
simulator,
which
is
an
interactive
exercise.
It's
also
known
as
the
balancing
act.
Part
four
is
going
to
be
the
second
half
of
this
two-hour
workshop
tonight,
and
so
we
have
lots
of
time
for
questions
and
answers.
So
please
start
thinking
about
them.
Now.
C
All
right
again,
my
name
is
samantha
souter,
I'm
owner
and
founder
of
meta.
Urban
design
really
excited
to
be
here.
As
andy
mentioned
there,
there
will
be
lots
of
opportunities
tonight
to
hear
from
you.
That's
the
main
reason
why
we're
here
tonight.
So,
thank
you
all
for
taking
time
out
of
your
your
evening
to
be
here
also
take
care
of
yourself
during
this
virtual
workshop.
Take
breaks,
stretch,
take
care
of
yourself,
we'll
be
here
throughout
the
evening,
ready
to
talk
and
listen
to
you
a
few
zoom
logistics.
C
There
are
three
main
tools:
three
main
avenues
that
you
can
engage
with
us
the
panelists
tonight.
The
first
is
chat
so
as
an
attendee
in
the
webinar,
you
may
chat
with
panelists
we're
going
to
have
a
few
questions
throughout
the
evening.
So
please
familiarize
yourself
with
the
chat
and
and
get
ready
to
use
that
when
we
ask
specific
questions
throughout
the
evening.
C
The
second
zoom
tool
is
the
raised
hand
feature
during
the
end
of
the
workshop
tonight.
We
will
ask
for
attendees
to
raise
their
hand
and
we'll
let
you
step
up
to
the
virtual
microphone
and
ask
questions,
share
comments.
We're
going
to
limit
attendees
questions
or
comments
to
two
minutes
just
to
be
respectful
of
everybody's
time,
but
if
you
want
to
step
up
to
the
virtual
microphone
at
the
end
of
the
night,
use
the
raised
hand
feature
and
our
our
video
team
will
help
facilitate
the
the
unmuting
of
your
microphone.
C
Lastly,
there's
the
q
a
feature
so
throughout
the
presentation.
Any
questions
you
have,
please
add
them
into
the
the
q
a
in
zoom.
We
will
have
a
whole
team
ready
to
answer
questions
in
real
time
when
that's
possible
and
then
we'll
have
a
few
moments
throughout
the
presentation
where
we
can
stop
and
answer
any
of
those
questions.
You
can
also
vote
them
up
or
down.
So
please,
please
keep
an
eye
on
the
questions
and
know
that
we
will
do
our
best
to
answer
as
many
questions
tonight
as
we
possibly
can.
C
Finally,
there
are
a
few
viewing
options.
The
first
is
zoom.
I
know
we
have
about
25
attendees
right
now,
who
have
joined
through
the
zoom
webinar,
there's
also
the
cupertino
youtube
channel,
cupertino
tv
and
then
the
local
cupertino
television
television
channels.
If
you
are
viewing
this
workshop
through
one
of
those
other
formats,
please
know
that
we
have
a
whole
interactive
website
set
up.
So
if
you
can't
engage
through
the
zoom
tools,
please
go
to
engage
cupertino.
C
Rachel,
please
correct
me
in
the
chat.
If,
if
I
was
wrong
or
is
that
dot
org
sorry
about
that
and
and
that
way
you
can
provide
some
comments
through
the
online
platform
there.
C
Lastly,
there's
going
to
be
this
really
fun
interactive
workshop
activity
that
we
have
planned
today,
that
is
through
this
web
platform,
that
andy
alluded
to
that's
best,
viewed
through
a
laptop
or
a
desktop
computer.
So
if
you
have
access
to
one
of
those
tools,
please
pull
that
out.
Please
get
logged
in
on
that
when,
when
we
get
ready
for
the
mapping,
exercise,
that'll
be
the
the
best
experience
for
you.
So
thanks
for
bearing
with
me
during
those
few
logistic
tech,
ground
rules
now
I'll
hand
it
off
to
kristin
great.
D
Thank
you
sam.
I
want
to
suggest
that
we
can
get
the
best
possible
outcome
from
this.
If,
when
you
do
speak
that
you
speak
from
your
own
experience
that
you
don't
talk
about
what
other
people
think
you
talk
about,
what
your
experience
is
that
you
share
that
space
with
some
kind
of
brevity,
because
there
are
many
of
you.
D
I
also
want
to
suggest
that
that
all
of
us
can
listen
for
what
really
matters
to
each
speaker.
We
probably
have
a
lot
more
experience
in
listening
to
voices
with
some
amount
of
judgment,
but
you
listen
for
what
matters
to
them,
what
they
care
about
and
what
they
value,
because
there
aren't
any
right
or
wrong
answers
and
please
no
interruptions.
E
E
Once
I
launch
it,
it
should
show
up
as
a
pop-up
window,
and
you
may
have
to
navigate
around
to
find
that
pop-up
window,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
launch
that
now
and
it
looks
like
it
is
launching
and
you
should
be
able
to
go
ahead
and
answer
it,
and
I
see
people
are
already
chiming
in
we've
got
about
31
percent
34
answering
so
I'll.
Wait
till
that's
a
little
bit
higher
to
close
the
poll.
E
D
Yeah,
so,
to
give
us
a
little
bit
of
practice,
you
can
put
something
into
the
chat
about
what
part
of
home
you
feel
represents
you
today,
so
just
think
metaphorically
about
what,
in
a
house
or
a
home,
what
in
a
place
of
residence
is
something
that
represents
how
you
show
up
or
what's
important
to
you,
so
you
can
put
that
into
the
chat.
If
that
feature
is
available
to
you
and
we'll
get
to
see
a
little
bit
get
to
hear
a
bit
of
your
voice
in
that
way,.
D
Have
been
a
few
kitchens
and
a
family
room
with
most
activities
happening
there,
a
family
room
with
an
interesting
little
emoji
that
looks
a
little
aggro
and
some
things
about
how
a
place
that's
comfortable,
all
of
the
home.
D
B
Great
and
we'll
let
those
keep
getting
collected
as
we
maybe
move
forward
and
we'll
start
talking
about
homes
generally
and
the
housing
element
updates,
specifically
and
kristin.
I
think
you're
going
to
stay
on
with
me
a
little
bit
here
and
we'll
do
a
little
call
and
response
and
we're
going
to
go
through
just
the
basics.
B
What
who
why,
how
many
and
when
and
as
as
we
do
that,
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
we
also
have
a
a
website
that
dives
in
much
deeper
to
to
these
very
quick
prompts
just
so
that
we
can
all
have
some
base
knowledge
as
we
as
we
work
towards
opening
up
the
simulator
tool.
E
E
Okay,
it
looks
like
75
percent
is
good,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
in
the
poll
and
share
the
results.
Can
you
all
see
that
on
your
screen?
I
just
want
to
double
check:
okay,
great
so
24
people
answered
and
right
now
we
have
about
58
that
are
unsure
and
some
that
are
feeling
somewhat
confident
and
confident,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
move
more
of
you
into
the
somewhat
confident
or
confident
by
the
end
of
the
workshop.
When
we
ask
this
poll
again.
B
Well,
a
housing
element,
it's
it's
part
of
the
general
plan,
and
specifically
this
is
a
chapter
that
is
a
plan
for
the
housing
needed
in
a
community
both
currently
and
into
the
future,
and
it's
important
to
understand
that
the
city
of
cupertino
doesn't
build
the
housing
and
instead,
this
is
a
plan
to
recognize
capacity
and
to
make
sure
there's
enough
capacity
for
the
current
and
future
needs
so
that
the
city
of
cupertino
creates
the
programs
and
policies
to
plan
where
new
housing
should
go
and
how
many
units
could
be
on
potential
sites
next
slide.
B
B
Yes,
so
in
the
end,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
plan
that
we
bring
to
the
council
for
review
and
decision
making
that
it
represents
cupertino's
core
values,
represents
cupertino's
vision
of
future
housing,
creates
a
more
inclusive,
cupertino
community
and
meets
the
regional
and
state
landed
state
mandated
housing
next
slide.
Please.
B
B
This
will
be
cupertino's
sixth
cycle
timeline,
it
will
begin
2023
and
the
full
cycle
ends
in
2031.,
and
I
want
to
be
clear
too.
We
sometimes
talk
about
an
acronym,
that's
pronounced
reena
and
what
that
stands
for
is
regional
housing
needs
allocation,
and
what
that
is,
is
a
target
number
for
homes
needed
next
slide?
Please.
B
Yeah
well,
the
arena
number
came
from
the
the
association
of
bay
area
governments
and
they
had
to
allocate
numbers
that
that
were
given
for
the
entire
bay
area
and
so
for
cupertino,
specifically,
that
total
ends
up
being
4588
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
goal
is
to
have
numerous
units
according
to
income
levels,
so
that
we
can
have
affordability
at
different
levels,
and
I
do
want
to
point
out.
We
have
a
very
low
income
level
here
and
that
is
also
inclusive
of
an
extremely
low
income
level.
B
Well,
the
deadline
is
in
january
2023
and
that's
for
all
109
jurisdictions
within
bay
area,
so
everybody's
working
hard
at
this
yeah.
It's
it's
it's
being
discussed
quite
a
lot
in
the
bay
area
and
we
have
a
challenge
for
us
because
we
we
have
to
jump
into
the
site
options
immediately
in
order
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
can
understand
what
kind
of
environmental
review
will
be
needed.
B
B
We
want
to
make
sure
that
housing
types
available
are
reflected
of
a
person's
time
of
life,
that
there
would
be
starter
homes
available
for
people
who
want
to
age
in
place
in
this
community
that
there
are
opportunities
to
do
so
for
people
with
all
kinds
of
special
needs
that
that
anyone
who
needs
and
wants
a
home
in
cupertino
that
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
connect
with
with
a
particular
housing
unit
that
they
need.
C
Okay,
so
with
that
brief
introduction,
we're
gonna
open
it
up
and
address
some
some
of
your
questions
so
far,
so
I've
I've
seen
a
couple
questions
in
the
q,
a
feature
and
a
few
questions
in
the
chat
and
just
a
few
zoom
reminders.
If
you
use
the
question
answer
in
the
in
zoom,
it's
a
little
easier
for
other
attendees
to
see.
So
we
encourage
you
to
to
put
your
questions
in
the
q
a
first
okay,
andy
ready
for
a
couple
questions.
C
B
F
I
just
want
to
add
andy
that
the
arena
number
is
the
allocation
that
is
required
for
the
city
to
meet,
but
the
city
does
not
actually
build
those
houses.
You
know
it
does
require
market
forces
to
build
them
and
the
market
forces
don't
always
allow
that
to
occur.
So,
while
it
is
the
city's
responsibility
to
through
this
process
to
figure
out
where
it
can
be
built
and
how
it
can
be
achieved,
it
doesn't
mean
that
they're
actually
building
the
houses.
B
Thank
you
david.
I
appreciate
that,
and
it's
also
important
to
note
that
this
number
4588,
that
this
isn't
a
number
that
is
chosen
because
there's
been
exactly
that
number
as
a
deficit
in
the
past.
This
is
a
projection
that
involves
quite
a
bit
of
analysis
by
the
association
bay
area
governments.
B
So
it's
not
necessarily
reflective
of
a
number
of
a
specific
number
of
units
that
that
were
not
capable
of
being
built
in
cupertino.
If
that's
helpful
next
question
sam.
C
C
Let
me
let
me
summarize
that
again,
so
I
think
the
question
is,
what
have
you
been
doing
for
senior
affordable
housing
and
when
will
more
come
online.
G
G
The
city
in
2018,
I
believe,
approved
the
verandas
project,
which
is
a
senior
affordable
project
for
which
the
city
actually
put
in
close
to
40
percent
of
the
funds
for
construction
of
that
project
as
well,
but
the
it
was
not
a
very
large
number
of
units.
However,
it
was
a
project
that
was
very
supported
by
the
community
and
by
the
city
and
city
council.
G
Additionally,
the
city
recently
also
approved
the
westport
project,
and
that
was
in
august
2020,
in
which
there
were
several
hundred
senior
units
that
were
approved.
The
there
was
a
bmr
portion
of
that
project
as
well,
which
had,
I
believe,
close
to,
I
think,
48
bmr
units
and
that
portion
of
the
project
I
think,
is
well
on
its
way
towards
obtaining
permits
for
the
construction
of
that
as
well.
B
Thank
you
pew
and
just
for
the
audience
I
thought
we
would
mention
that
bmr
stands
for
below
market
rate.
C
Serious,
I
was
muted
sorry
about
that
this
one's
directly
for
you
andy
who
is
emc,
and
what
is
your
experience
as
an
organization
in
doing
this.
B
Oh,
my
goodness
well
emc
consulting
group
excuse
me,
emc
planning
group
has
has
been
around
for
over
40
years
and
we
have
extensive
experience
with
housing
element
work
of
with
both
the
fourth
and
fifth
cycle,
with
many
communities
within
central
california.
B
We
have
a
robust
staff,
very
seasoned
and
and
also
new
energy.
In
with
our
group-
and
let's
see,
we
also
are
very
well
regarded
as
an
environmental
firm,
meaning
that
we
create
reports
for
environmental
review
related
to
sql,
which
is
the
california
environmental
quality
act.
B
So
we
will
also
be
performing
the
review
for
environmental.
C
B
B
The
guarantees,
the
best
the
best
way
that
we
can
move
forward
with
our
housing
element
update,
is
to
focus
on
as
much
certainty
as
is
possible
in
in
this
arena,
so
that
we
will
be
doing
some
level
of
feasibility
analysis
and,
and
also
we'll
do
all
that
we
can
to
set
the
stage
for
this
housing
to
be
built
over
time
in
the
areas
that
the
community
deems
appropriate
with
policies
that
also
relate
back
to
equity
standards,
meaning
that
we
will
have
meaningful
actions
that
relate
back
to
what
is
understood
as
the
needs
for
all
in
the
city
of
cupertino.
B
The
kinds
of
consequences
that
are
in
play
currently
is
that
if,
if
the
city
does
not
meet,
if
a
city
under
the
cert,
the
current
cycle-
five
housing
element,
then
if
they
have
not
reached
their
numbers,
then
they
would
be
subject
to
sb
35,
which
is
a
state
law
that
enables
the
developer
to.
B
To
have
streamlined
review
for
their
development,
so
we
don't
know
what
kinds
of
laws
might
be
in
play
when
we
get
to
the
end
of
cycle
six
housing
element.
We
do
know
that
we
have
a
little
peek
at
what
the
trends
are
with
the
state
and
with
housing,
housing
law,
and
we
will
do
our
best
to
have
a
plan
that
is
robust
and
feasible
so
that
we
present
the
city
with
the
best
chance
of
meeting
those
numbers.
C
B
C
All
right,
and
just
for
the
sake
of
time,
let's,
let's
do
one
more
question,
a
reminder
to
the
attendees.
Please
please
keep
adding
your
questions.
We
will
track
those
and
we
will
have
time
at
the
end
for
more
robust
discussion.
C
So
this
is
a
little
teaser
to
where
we're
going
andy.
Can
you
just
briefly
describe
the
the
mapping
tool
and
is
it
a
program
or
an
app,
and
why
is
it
important?
Why
should
we
care.
B
Oh
great,
yes,
it
is
an
app
and
what
this
enables
is
for
direct
democracy,
meaning
that
anyone
who
has
the
url
can
first,
let
us
know
whether
or
not
you're
a
resident
or
maybe
you
would
like
to
be
one
and
and
then
you
enter
into
the
mapping
tool
and
and
well
it's
hard
to
describe
without
having
a
visual
in
front
of
us.
B
So
I
look
forward
to
sharing
this
demonstration,
but
in
general,
what
we're
looking
for
with
our
initial
map
is
to
get
a
sense
for
where
the
community
would
generally
like
to
see
housing
be
considered
into
the
future
we
want
to.
We
want
to
bring
the
community
along
from
our
very
first
starting
point
without
any
assumptions
and
just
to
enable
all
of
the
neighborhoods
and
special
areas
that
they
all
be
available
for
consideration
and
each
one
is
informed
within
the
map.
So
this
is
a
geo-referenced
comment
collector.
B
So
we
want
to
see
your
comments
and
we
want
to
see
your
upvotes
and
your
down
votes
as
far
as
numbers
of
housing,
and
then
we
will
collate
all
this
information
and
we'll
also
integrate
it
in
with
opportunities
for
strategies
going
forward.
B
So
in
other
words,
there
will
be
more
maps
in
the
future
that
in
the
near
future,
that
will
build
off
of
this
one
and
will
bring
all
of
that
to
the
decision
makers
going
through
the
advisory
groups
until
we
get
to
the
council
with
an
idea
for
what
our
opportunity
sites
or
sites
inventory
will
be
incorporated
with
our
claim.
B
B
Local
control
is
a
bit
of
a
buzzword
these
days
and
there's
some
there's
talk
of
people
feeling
like
this
is
being
threatened,
but
in
some
ways
we
we
want
to
recognize
where
local
control
is
maybe
shifting
to
and
and
making
sure
that
people
understand
where
their
power
lies
and
a
lot
of
that
is
in
working
together.
B
B
D
And
talking
to
andy
about
this,
we
were
we
were
discussing,
how
it's
helpful,
to
have
people
be
in
touch
with
and
communicate
to
to
this,
to
emc
and
to
the
city
of
cupertino.
What's
important
to
you,
what
are
you
trying
to
protect
and
what
what
pieces
are?
Not
that
crucial
for
you
so
knowing
that
about
one
another
so
that
we
can
do
a
a
better
job?
All
of
us
of
collaborating.
B
Well,
how
about
if
we
just
leave
the
chat
open
for
a
little
bit
and
we'll
start
walking
a
little
bit
through.
We
thought
it
would
be
helpful
to
think
about
times
in
the
past,
when
people
living
in
cupertino
were
brought
to
a
crossroad
and
and
a
lot
of
change
occurred,
so
we're
we're
tapping
into
this
youtube
that
was
available
through
the
city
and
it
was
called
60
years
of
bringing
the
community
together,
and
I
think
we'll
be
sharing
that
link
in
in
the
chat
in
case
somebody
wants
to
watch.
B
Just
starting
with
this
photo,
those
living
in
cupertino
from
the
early
days
of
wine
country
were
quick
to
reinvent
themselves
as
successful
fruit
producers.
B
B
E
B
Great,
thank
you.
So,
in
a
time
of
change,
there
are
opportunities
to
maybe
work
out
what
isn't
working
within
a
community
and
and
factoring
that
into
how
a
future
plan
might
come
together.
Kristin.
Could
you
ask
this
question?
Please.
D
B
So
we'll
keep
the
chat,
open
and
maybe
continue
on
with
our
next
slide
and
david
that
you
can
work
with
me
on
on.
F
Yeah
sure
you
know
it's
exciting,
because
a
rail
line
really
was
one
of
the
main
points
of
starting
for
the
area
and
monte.
Vista
was
one
of
the
first
suburban
neighborhoods
planned
for
cupertino,
and
I
believe
it
was
a
san
francisco
to
san
jose
line
was
one
of
the
early
rail
lines
on
the
west
coast.
So
cupertino
has
for
a
long
time
been
an
important
spot
on
the
map.
F
Right-
and
I
think
with
this-
I
love
this
graphic,
but
I
think
what's
key
about
this-
is
to
understand
that
at
this
point
there
was
a
lot
of
differing
opinions
on
what
the
city
of
cupertino
should
do,
but
what
they
decided
to
do
was
they
decided
to
control
their
own
destiny
and
to
incorporate
as
a
city
of
cupertino-
and
I
think
you
know
there
are
these
key
turning
points
in
histories
of
cities
that
really
make
a
big
difference,
and
this
was
a
key
one.
At
that
point,.
B
So
the
timing
happened
to
coincide
with
an
explosion
of
suburbia
right
david.
F
Right
I
mean
suburbia
across
the
united
states
was
certainly
exploding
during
that
time.
You
know
we're
talking
about
the
era
of
levitt
towns
growing
across
the
country
there
cupertino
was
was
wide
open
and
people
loved
the
weather
and
they
loved
to
move
out
here.
So
there
was
huge
opportunity
and
people
tend
to
go
to
opportunity
next
slide.
Please
and
it's
interesting
to
see
over
the
decades
sort
of
the
growth
rate
of
cupertino,
and
when
you
compare
this
to
santa
clara
county
and
then
the
larger
bay
area,
cupertino's
growth
is,
is
quite
exceptional.
F
Santa
clara
county
in
general
has
grown
quite
quickly,
but
cupertino
has
grown
extremely
rapidly,
especially
in
the
70s
and
80s
and
2000s,
but
now
it's
starting
to
slow
down,
and
I
think
that's
a
byproduct
largely
of
the
fact
that
that
there
isn't
that
much
unbuildable
land
that
is
pretty
built
up
and
it's
a
supply
and
demand
issue
like
much
of
the
bay
area
is
there's
not
enough
land
for
the
number
of
people
that
want
to
live
here.
If
it's
owned,
all
single
family.
B
And
maybe
we
should
also
point
out
that
the
amount
of
population
gain
that
might
occur
if
all
this
housing
were
to
be
built
within
this
next
eight
years
we
would
be
somewhere
on
par
between
2000
and
2010,
and
luckily
not
that
difference
between
1960
and
1970,
which
is
unimaginable
really.
F
I
think
I
think
what's
great
about
cupertino.
Is
it
just?
Has
great
resources
and
we've
seen
this
in
the
comments
that
people
have
have
mentioned
about?
Why
they
like
being
here,
there's
great
parks,
there's
great
activities,
there's
great
amenities,
there's
just
a
great
quality
of
life,
and
you
know,
de
anza
is
a
fantastic
resource.
I'm
working
with
other
community
college
districts
in
the
bay
area.
F
Right
now-
and
I
can
I
can
say
firsthand,
the
de
anza
is
considered
the
gold
standard
for
community
colleges
to
achieve,
and
on
that
particular
note,
we're
seeing
community
colleges
struggle
with
the
same
sort
of
housing
issues
that
a
lot
of
cities
are
struggling
with,
and
community
colleges
now
are
starting
to
implement,
affordable,
affordable
housing
on
campus
housing,
which,
before
roy
would
have
been
unfathomable.
F
And
I
think
what's
really
exciting
about
cupertino
is,
is
you
know
how
how
multicultural
it
is,
there's
a
lot
of
different
opinions
here,
there's
a
lot
of
different
people
here
and
I
think
that's
it's
that
richness
that
draws
people
to
cupertino
and
I
think
just
the
south
bay
and
the
bay
area
in
general.
Is
you
get
such
a
richness
of
multiculturalism.
F
You
know
they've
they've
attracted
and
sustained
global
technology.
Industry
you've
made
you've
made
a
destination
for
highly
educated
residents,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
to
tap
into
that
spirit
of
innovation
and
to
work
towards
a
plan
for
the
future
that
reaches
beyond
sort
of
the
typical
solutions,
because
this
is
a
pretty
big
number.
As
we've
mentioned,.
B
B
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
an
impossible
dream
is
like?
Can
you
help
us
get
into
that
place
of
imagination
so
that
we
can
we
can
tap
in
before
we
started
our
mapping
exercise
here,
yeah.
D
It
it
it's
a
fun
thing
to
hold
out
for
ourselves
that
we
get
to
want
what
we
want
on
behalf
of
what's
important
to
us.
Even
if
we
don't
see
the
pathway,
but
we
get
to
advocate
for
what's
important
to
us
and
in
doing
that
that
we
can,
we
can
kind
of
place
our
impossible
dream
out
there
somewhere
around
the
jetsons
or
whatever
image
works
for
you,
that
if
you
think
long
term,
you're
more
likely
to
put
things
in
place
that
we
can,
we
can
progress
along
that
line.
D
You
know
responding
to
the
values
that
are
important
to
you,
so
you
kind
of
have
to
think
big
and
hear
other
people's
big
thoughts
and
big
dreams
so
that
you
can
try
to
build
one.
B
D
So
here's
your
chance
to
have
three
whole
words
to
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
cupertino
needs
in
the
future.
So
what
does
that
impossible?
Dream
include
for
you.
What
is
it
that
you
want
to
make
sure
is
on
the
map
or
on
the
list?
B
In
fact,
with
this
one,
we
want
to
open
it
up
for
for
chats
for
anyone
who
maybe
didn't
get
a
chance
to
participate
in
the
first
one.
If
you
just
put
the
number
one
ahead
of
it
and
same
goes
for
number
two
and
number
three.
We
just
wanted
to
give
anybody
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
in
us
gathering
those
words
from
you.
If
you,
if
you
maybe
missed
it,.
B
D
B
Okay,
now
we're
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
housing
simulator
tool,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
limitations
and
goals
and
and
then
we'll
have
a
quick
demonstration
so
before
the
demonstration,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please.
B
We
want
to
let
you
know
that
the
cupertino
housing
simulator
is
a
way
for
you
to
be
an
ambassador
to
choose
which
areas
of
the
city
you'd
like
to
see
future
housing
builds
and
to
return
to
use
the
tool
again
in
the
future,
in
the
very
near
future,
with
more
details,
so
we'll
have
maps
with
more
detail,
and
this
will
be
an
iterative
process.
So
today,
we'll
help
you
learn
the
tool
and
then
we'll
be
making
announcements
for
when
we
have
new
maps
ready
for
you
to
work
with
again
next
slide,
please.
B
So
the
goals
of
the
exercise
is
that
this.
This
is
a
way
for
us
to
learn
which
areas
of
the
city
that
the
community
would
like
to
see.
Future
housing
builds
and
then
we'll
also
learn
how
to
design
the
next
more
detailed
mapping
exercise
next
slide.
Please.
B
And
as
far
as
strategies
that
can
be
used,
we
want
you
to
focus
on
what
is
important
to
you.
You
can
come
to
this
tool
with
with
a
different
motivation.
Maybe
your
motivation
is:
how
should
housing
be
focused
in
different
areas
of
the
city,
or
maybe
your
motivation
is:
how
can
we
locate
future
housing
with
minimal
impact
to
what
make
groups?
F
Well,
you
know
first,
I
I
want
to
emphasize.
You
know
that
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity
for
the
community
to
step
in
and
shape
their
future.
You
know
housing.
A
housing
solution
is
unique
to
every
community
and,
as
andy
mentioned
earlier,
all
the
communities
in
the
surrounding
area
and
state
of
california
are
having
to
go
through
this
process,
but
every
city
has
to
find
its
own
way,
because
every
community
is
is
unique
and
it
has
its
own
centers
and
has
its
own
districts.
F
F
F
So,
what's
key
when
thinking
about
housing,
distribution
is
considering
how
every
every
area
can
help
to
some
degree,
that's
not
to
say
that
that
each
district
should
take
an
equal
amount
of
units
or
that
units
should
be
proportionate
to
district
area,
but
it's
about
identifying
the
best
distribution
for
the
communities.
This
is
about
being
forward.
Thinking
and
equitable
in
the
approach,
but
being
equitable
doesn't
mean
that
each
district
gets
an
equal
amount.
F
So
today
we're
not
talking
about
specific
sites,
we're
not
talking
about
the
retail
center.
Here
the
housing
air
we're
talking
about
just
general
neighborhood
and
commercial
areas.
We
want
to
get
your
say
the
community
say
in
how
it
should
be
distributed
generally
across
the
city,
because
you're
the
experts
on
cupertino.
F
You
know
your
knowledge
comes
with
credibility
and
experience
from
living
here
growing
up
here,
spending
time
here,
and
you
probably
have
the
most
thoughtful
approach
to
this
task,
and
that's
why
we
are
tapping
you
so
for
tonight's
process,
we've
divided
the
city
into
two
groups
of
areas,
so
the
special
areas
which
are
the
ones
you
see
on
the
screen
now
these
these
are
the
ones
that
are
some
corridors,
commercial
corridors
and
other
special
areas,
and
then
the
next
one
will
be
neighborhood
areas.
F
F
F
But
of
course
this
is
not
to
say
that
you
can
put
4
500
homes
in
this
special
district
area
just
in
these
corridors,
because
that's
probably
out
of
step
with
cupertino's
character
and
that's
why
I
come
back
to
the
idea
that
we
need
to
find
a
way
that
is
an
equitable
solution
that
matches
each
area
in
the
best
way
for
that
area.
In
your
opinion,
land
areas
differ
public
transit
and
activity
and
commercial
uses.
They
all
differ,
which
means
that
you
have
to
think
about
each
district
separately.
F
But
ideally,
these
housing
projects
have
the
opportunity
to
reinforce
the
community
and
the
character
and
even
enhance
it,
and
on
that
particular
topic,
you
know
you
can
think
about
in
commercial
districts
how
housing
development
might
actually
help
improve
commercial
corridors.
You
know
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
leverage
the
need
for
housing
to
get
a
development
that
actually
comes
to
the
street.
F
It
helps
define
a
wide
street
and
create
a
more
walkable
area
where
maybe
it
wasn't
walkable
before
and
there's
examples
of
this
all
around
there's
an
example
on
de
anza
of
a
multi-family
building
that
has
retail
on
the
ground
floor
and
it
comes
up
to
de
anza.
It
has
a
nice
seating
area
on
the
right
along
the
street,
and
so
that
sort
of
solution
provides
housing
and
it
provides
amenity
for
everybody
next
slide,
please
so
now
for
the
neighborhood
here
so
they're
shown
here
so
from
a
fear,
pure
land
area
basis.
F
These
obviously
dwarf
the
special
areas
in
size,
but
the
opportunities
are
different.
It
is
correct
that
some
of
the
neighborhoods
or
district
districts
could
accommodate
more
housing
than
others
due
to
their
relative
area
or
potential
development.
You
know
today
we
just
want
a
broad
brush.
Look
at
what
everyone
thinks
is
a
reasonable
distribution.
F
Where
are
the
best
places
that
we
can
put
housing?
You
know
we
want
you
to
tell
us
where
you
see
opportunity
in
both
the
neighborhoods
and
the
special
areas
and
I'm
guessing
we're.
Probably
gonna
get
some
pretty
strong
opinions
and
that's
what
we
want
and
that's
what
we
need
to
help
move
this
process
forward.
F
So
my
my
final
pitch
really
is
that
the
opportunity
here
is
that
making
housing
just
distribution
equitable,
you
know
it.
Can
it
can
help
a
lot
of
things.
It
can
help
reduce
housing
and
security
in
cupertino.
It
can
strengthen
the
sense
of
place
like
I
was
talking
about
bringing
some
of
these
buildings
to
the
road.
F
It
can
ensure
that
all
people,
regardless
of
race
and
ethnicity,
family
status
and
disability,
have
a
range
of
choices
and
can
find
a
home
in
cupertino,
and
it's
a
diverse
community
and
cupertino
was
built
on
this
diversity,
and
I
think
you
know
for
all
of
you
that
live
here
and
call
this
home.
I
think
there's
a
way
to
do
this
and
you
know
you're
all
innovators.
I
think
there's
a
way
to
do
this.
That
leads
to
really
great
solutions.
B
Our
cougar
housing
excuse
me
cooper,
gmail,
housing
simulator.
I
tried
to
say
all
the
words
at
once
that
didn't
work,
so
I
believe
rachel
will
be
putting
into
chat
the
url
so
that
everybody
can
join
if
they
would
like,
or
maybe
you'd
like
to
see
a
demonstration.
First,
when
you
open
up
the
url,
you
are
first
showing
this
welcome
screen.
That
has
a
little
bit
of
tips
and
lets
you
know
about
the
tool.
You
can
also
click
to
not
show
that
again.
B
B
B
B
Five
percent
of
the
total
that
is
so
again
you
can,
you
can
add,
and
then,
if
you
decide
that
you
want
to
take
away,
you
can
take
away
like
this
or
if
you
just
want
to
zero
it
back
out,
you
can
and
we
have
information
loaded
for
each
and
every
one
of
the
neighborhoods
and
special
areas.
B
Excuse
me
for
the
special
areas
we
have
links
to
not
only
a
little
bit
of
information,
a
descriptor,
but
we
also
have
more
details
that
will
show
you
both
the
a
map,
if
there's
one
that
we
found
available
and
then
there's
also
a
link
that
will
take
you
to
the
specific
plan
that
is
specific
to
that
area.
B
So
after
you
get
this
needle
moving
thermometer,
rather
that
takes
you.
You
can
see
it
takes
a
little
bit
at
first
to
get
moving,
but
then
once
it
does-
and
I
am
just
not
doing
this
in
a
meaningful
way-
the
way
that
we
would
expect
that
you
would
take
your
time
and
and
understand
exactly
which
areas
that
you're
adding.
B
You
may
hit
a
maximum
for
an
individual
area
and
if
you
do
just
know
that
that
maximum
also
was
not
specifically
analyzed
for
capacity,
but
now,
once
you
get
this,
then
we
can
know
that
the
whole,
the
full
number
that
was
required.
The
4588
has
now
been
accounted
for.
Of
course,
this
map
would
not
would
not
be
something
that
someone
would
submit
necessarily
but
it.
B
What
this
does
for
us
is.
It
starts
to
create
what
we
would
call
a
heat
map.
It
helps
us
understand,
general
distribution,
and
once
we
collect
information
from
as
many
people
as
might
use
this
tool,
then
we
can
enter
those
numbers
and
we
can
have.
We
can
have
a
visual.
We
can
have
a
graphic
that
is
reflective
of
everybody's
average
collated
opinions,
so
at
this
point
I
could
hit
submit.
B
B
So
I
want
you're
always
welcome
to
use
the
q
a
tool
and
our
staff
has
been
working
hard
to
make
those
answers
available
as
often
as
possible
and
any
questions
that
we
don't
get
to
this
evening.
We
will
be
sure
to
make
available
on
our
website,
and
each
speaker
has
two
minutes.
B
We
have
a
randomized
selection
of
speakers
between
raised
hands
and
phone
callings.
We
have
our
video
team
helping
us
out
with
that,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
this
selected
speakers
are
not.
First
come
first
served
if
you're
calling
in
from
watching
it
and
in
ways
other
than
within
our
webinar.
That
phone
number
is
669-900-6833.
C
H
I
questions
I
have
is
one
by
date.
Do
you
want
us
to
give
the
feedback
in
terms
of
the
selection
use
of
the
mapping
tool,
and
then
you
know,
when
would
you
close
the
window
get
closed?
The
other
is
that
you
know
is
that
is
that
a
way
that
we
can
get
information
about
the
poll
that
we
conducted
way
that
we
would
we
can
know
what
were
the
expectations
from
the
community
in
terms
of
you
know
what
they
were
looking
for
in
cupertino.
B
Thank
you
for
those
questions.
We
will
definitely
be
sharing
back
what
we
heard
tonight.
We
may
be
able
to
do
that
this
evening
and,
if
not
we'll
be
sure
to
do
it
within
our
website,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
am
responsive
to
all
of
your
questions.
B
But
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
catch
the
earlier
question
I
had.
I
had
an
issue
with
the
volume
on
my
computer.
B
Yes,
okay,
so
this
mapping
tool
right
now.
Our
intention
is
to
leave
this
open
throughout
the
full
process
and
we
will
likely
add
additional
maps
so
that
anyone
coming
into
the
process.
They
could
always
begin
with
this
map
and
then
move
on
to
the
more
complex
and
maybe
more
informed
and
detailed
maps,
or
they
could
just
jump
into
the
most
current
one,
but
we
want
to
keep
those
options
open,
at
least
at
this
point
in
time.
That's
our
intention
going
forward.
J
Is
the
is
the
funding
in
place
to
do
all
the
things
that
you're
planning
and,
if
you
do,
what
you
say
you
want
to
do
is:
are
you
going
to
have
parallel
services
to
go
along
with
the
increased
housing
and
people
that
live
in
cupertino
that
don't
currently
live
here?
So
your
services
will
become
commensurate
with
the
amount
of
new
population
you're,
getting.
B
So
when
you're
asking
about
the
funding
in
place,
I'm
imagining
that
well,
I
want
to
make
sure
you
have
your
full
two
minutes.
Is
that
do
you
feel
complete
with
your
questions.
J
B
Questions
about
funding
as
far
as
our
team
and
being
able
to
follow
through
with
our
intentions
that
we
spoke
about
this
evening.
Yes,
the
funding
is
in
place
and
as
far
as
parallel
services
relative
to
the
increase
in
housing,
there
will
be
an
environmental
review
and
that
will
include
reports
that
will
research
and
document
that
analysis.
I
Hi
there
I
came
in
a
little
late
to
the
meeting,
so
maybe
you
already
covered
this
in
doing
the
poll
will
there?
How
is
it
going
to
be
analyzed-
and
I
understand
that
this-
it's
not
exclusive
to
cupertino
residents
or
people
that
work
here.
Will
there
be
a
point
system
where
it's
well
there's
more
weight
on
the
responses
from
the
residents
or
anything
like
that.
B
Thank
you,
tessa,
I'm
happy
to
respond,
and
then,
if
there's
a
little
time
we
can
see
if
you
have
a
follow-on
question.
So
I
think
when
you
say
poll
you
mean
our
mapping
exercise
our
cupertino
housing,
simulator
and
so
that
data
as
far
as
residents
versus
people
who.
B
B
Consequence
with
the
decision
makers,
the
decision
makers
will
factor
this
into
their
decision
making.
So
I
want
to
be
clear
about
that.
This
is
just
a
way
to
collect
community
opinion
and
one
more
point
on
that.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
it
is
important
to
understand
what
the
residents
want
and
and
and
that
they
bring
forward
their
understanding
and
knowledge
of
the
local
community.
B
But
it's
also
important
for
those
who
would
like
to
live
in
cupertino
or
who
have
tried
to
or
who
have
in
the
past,
but
are
not
now
able
to
afford
to
live
in
cupertino
that
that
their
opinions
are
also
warranted
and
and
hurt.
C
C
You're
welcome
and
this
might
be
a
tag
team
effort
between
you,
andy
and
you
david,
because
it's
in
response
to
something
you
said
david
here
we
go,
the
city
isn't
responsible
for
building
the
actual
housing.
The
the
question
is
quoting
a
comment
you
made
on
the
slide.
C
The
city
isn't
responsible
for
building
the
actual
housing
the
market
is,
then
the
question
is:
aren't
there
actions
the
city
can
do
to
remove
arbitrary
impediments,
such
as
parking
requirements,
etc
or
factors
that
shape
the
economics
of
a
project?
And
if
so,
what
measures
or
reforms
will
the
city
seriously?
Consider
to
that
effect?.
F
I
mean
that's
a
fantastic
question
and
I
mean
the
answer
is
yes,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
any
city
can
do
in
terms
of
code
and
zoning
to
encourage
encourage
housing
production?
It's
not
practical
in
every
location.
I
think
you
hit
on
one
of
the
things
that's
huge,
which
is
parking.
You
know
when
you
look
at
at
doing
housing,
especially
multi-family
housing.
The
parking
load
usually
ends
up
determining
the
number
of
units
that
you
actually
build
because
it
takes
up
so
much
space
and
it's
extremely
expensive
to
do
structured
parking.
F
So
I've
seen
a
lot
of
communities,
look
at
parking
differently
along
transit
corridors,
for
instance.
Right
now,
the
city
of
cupertino's
parking
policy
is
pretty
much
in
line.
I
think
with
the
rest
of
south
bay,
that's
something
that
you
know
could
be
looked
at
and
there's
other
zoning
and
form-based
code
issues
that
could
be
addressed
once
we
better
understand
where
the
housing
where
the
housing
is
preferred
to
go.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
follow
up
on
that
in
terms
of
the
code.
B
That's
certainly
something
that
will
be
analyzed,
discussed
and
considered
as
we
move
forward
in
our
housing
element,
update
process,
and
that
will
be
in
the
end.
It
will
be
up
for
up
for
the
council
to
determine.
C
F
The
arena
breakdown
of
numbers
includes
different
levels
of
affordability,
so
you
have
to
hit
different
bars
of
very
low
affordability,
moderate
affordability,
medium
affordability,
etc.
That's
based
on
the
adjusted
median
income
or
the
ami
of
the
area
and
in
in
the
bay
area
you
know,
affordable
housing
can
go
to
people
that
make
a
pretty
reasonable
salary
because
it
is
so
challenging
to
live
here.
F
Arena
specifically
on
its
unit
count
does
not
provide
specific
information
about
bedrooms,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
every
community
needs
to
study
when
they
look
at
this
to
look
at
their
individual
needs
of
families
and
what
their
family's
needs
and
their
community
needs
are.
I
think
schools
are
always
a
major
issue.
F
I
will
say
just
generally
over
the
next
10
years
we
are
seeing
a
decline
in
the
bay
area
population
and
in
the
number
of
high
school
graduates
over
the
next
10
years
each
year,
because
people
are
having
fewer
kids,
but
the
families
will
always
be
here,
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
something
that's
considered
as
we
move
forward
with
the
plan.
C
Right
and
just
as
a
reminder,
if
you
want
to
step
up
to
the
microphone,
raise
your
hand
and
michelle
will
will
unmute
you,
but
in
the
meantime
I
will
keep
asking
our
panelists
some
questions.
Okay,
so
what
process
and
data
is
available
to
separate
extremely
low
income,
eli
from
very
low
income
vli
for
cupertino.
B
That's
that's
a
metadata
question
that
that
we
will
be
pursuing.
F
The
arena
numbers
establish
those
parameters
correct
so
I
mean
the
arena.
Numbers
basically
bake
that
into
the
thinking.
Now
the
arena
numbers
are
developed
by
the
associated
bay
area,
governments
or
abag,
and
they
they
try
to
do
the
arena
numbers
really
holistically.
They
don't
just
look
at
communities
individually,
but
they
look
at
all
the
adjoining
communities
and
what
effect
they
have,
which
I
think
is
wise,
but
in
terms
of
the
affordability
that
is
all
handled
through
the
arena
numbers
correct
andy.
B
That
is
correct,
and
I
think
this
specific
question
is
is
asking
for
differentiation
between
extremely
low
income
and
very
low
income,
which
so
it
is
a
sub
category,
and
there
are
hcd
standards
for
us
to
bring
that
analysis
into
our
process.
We
don't
have
that
at
our
fingertips
tonight
to
forward
a
link,
but
it
will
definitely
be
part
of
our
process,
part
of
our
transparent
process.
B
So
this
isn't
the
first
time
I've
heard
a
question
like
this
coming
from
cupertino,
so
I'm
I'm
certain
that
we'll
be
making
this
available
on
our
website
as
we
as
we
move
through
our
analysis,
our
data
analysis
process.
C
I
Here
we
have
tessa
hi,
thank
you
and,
by
the
way,
andy,
I
was
trying
to
respond
to
you,
but
the
whoever's
administrating,
it
muted
mutes,
the
public
right
after
so
we
can't
actually
answer
you
just
fyi
we're
not
ignoring
you.
So
is
part
of
the
the
the
poll
or
the.
What
you're
doing
here
at
the
survey.
I
Are
you,
including?
What
is
there
a
place
for
people
to
include
what
they'd
like
to
see
incorporated
within
the
community
as
part
of
the
housing,
for
example,
as
a
housing?
Commissioner,
I
would
like
to
see
a
shelter
eventually
somewhere,
some
type
of
a
small
place
or
a
shelter
where
someone
can
go
like
what
we
have
in
west
valley.
Public
housing
is
there
somewhere
where
people
can
can
suggest
that
as
well
as
training
adult
education,
those
kind
of
things
or
is
it
just?
I
B
Initially,
our
intention
is
to
just
focus
on
on
the
housing,
but
that
we
do
have
an
ideas
board
on
our
website
and
these
ideas
that
you
just
suggested
would,
I
think,
be
a
wonderful
contribution
to
that
within
the
ideas
board.
There's
opportunities
for
people
to
add
add
their
thumbs
up
if
it's
something
that
they
they
would
like
would
like
to
support
more
information
about,
and
and
and
also
to.
B
C
Okay,
here's
another
question:
can
we
get
more
information
on
the
details
of
the
process
and
steps
for
meeting
the
number
requirements
and
how
the
public
will
be
able
to
participate.
B
Yes,
that's
a
great
question:
we
have
some
things
available
on
our
website
and
this
was
this:
was
our
initial
launch
just
this
last
week
we
have
it
in
five
different
languages,
including
english
and
and
we'll
be
adding
to
that
website
over
time
and
making
sure
that
all
of
our
opportunities
for
people
to
interact
are
are
made
available
on
that
site.
So
that's
sort
of
the
go-to
for
understanding
what's
coming
up
next
and
what
our
overall
process
is.
B
B
We
also
have
8686,
which
is
the
state
law
that
mandates
that
we
bring
in
a
whole
lot
of
equity
throughout
process.
So
we
want
as
many
people
to
be
engaged
in
this
process
as
possible.
C
All
right,
here's
another
balancing
act,
question:
where
did
you
get
the
max
numbers
of
units
per
area
in
your
demo.
F
F
The
the
tool
should
be
not
thought
of
as
a
surgical
tool.
That
is
a
general
tool.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
choose
118
units
in
one
area,
that
does
not
mean
purely
that
you
want
exactly
118
units
in
an
area.
The
thinking
really
is
to
aggregate
all
of
everyone's
opinion,
together
into
a
heat
map
where
we
can
look
at
it
at
a
future
meeting,
just
to
see
where
the
community
opinion
and
preference
lies
on
where
housing
is
located,
so
you
can
generally
disregard
the
cap
other
than
to
say
that
we
haven't
really
studied.
C
H
B
It's
an
interesting
point
and
a
very
good
question
to
my
knowledge,
the
arena
numbers
do
not
they're
silent
on
whether
the
housing
units
would
be
ownership
or
rent.
B
I
think
the
focus
is
much
more
on
feasibility
when
we
put
our
plan
together
and
and
the
importance
of
being
able
to
reflect
meaningful
actions
relative
to
our
equity.
B
Research
are
basically
our
needs
assessed,
so
that's
the
more
primary
part
that
that
hcd
will
be
looking
at
looking
to
in
their
review.
K
It's
not
going
to
be
an
easy
task,
4
500
and
with
a
buffer
up
to
6
000,
and
it
is
really
vital
that
we
do
this
and
likewise
trying
to
allocate
that
many
houses
in
residential
units
in
cupertino
is
going
to
be
a
big
challenge,
and
so
the
input
from
the
community
is
really
vital,
and
I
wanted
to
get
that
out
first
and
so
yeah.
This
is
john
donald,
willy
one
of
the
councilmen,
and
we
need
your
input.
K
I'm
hoping
that
by
stepping
up
and
saying
this
it'll
encourage,
encourage
more
people,
both
residents
and
non-residents,
to
take
the
survey
to
put
in
their
input,
send
the
city
council
emails
so
that
we
have
the
best
information
we
can
from
the
community
and
community
at
large
in
how
to
go
about
placing
this
new
allocation
of
housing.
So
just
want
to
say
that
thank
you
so
much
kirsten
samantha,
andre
and
david
great
job.
J
In
a
follow-up
to
what
your
councilman
just
said,
do
you
have?
Did
you
have
any
thoughts
about
how
many
people
would
actually
attend
this
meeting
and
did
it
meet
your
expectations
and
the
follow-up
for
that
is
if
you're
interested
in
the
community
participation,
which
I
know
you
are,
are
you
doing
more
of
an
outreach
to?
Let
people
know
that
there
is
actually
something
like
this
it's
going
to,
if
you
directly
to
your
website,
you
may
not
even
know
that
this
is
happening
in
cooper,
t
cupertino.
J
B
That's
a
great
question
david.
I
know
that
our
city
staff
has
worked
hard
to
get
the
word
out
through
all
kinds
of
social
media.
We
are
also
working
with
west
valley,
community
services.
They
have
an
advocacy
group
there,
that's
growing
and
becoming
more
and
more
informed
and
engaged
we're
very
excited
about
that.
B
We
have
50
participants
today
and-
and
that
is
the
number
of
people
who
registered.
We
can't
know
exactly
how
many
people
might
also
be
watching
either
on
youtube
or
on
the
television
channels.
It
is,
it
is
a
week
night,
that's
not
always
easy
for
folks,
and
it
is
recorded
so
we're
hoping
that
that
there
might
be
a
number
of
people
who
visit
this
afterwards.
B
There
will
also
be
closed
captioning
available
once
it
is
recorded
and
archived
and
made
available
through
the
city
website
and
through
our
unique
housing
web
page
on
the
website,
but
we
also
are
very
open
to
any
ideas
that
folks
have
for
getting
the
word
out
even
more.
So
we
hope
that
if
you
have
some
ideas
that
you
share
share
it
with
us
here
in
the
chat
with
q,
a
or
on
our
web
page
under
the
ideas
board,
and
we
will
follow
through.
C
Right,
we
have
another
follow-up
about
the
balancing
act
and
it's
talking
about
making
meaningful
decisions
and
that
there
doesn't
seem
like
there's
enough
information
about
each
area
and
the
follow-up
question
is
how
much
older
underutilized
retail
property
is
in
each
area
such
as
vacant,
land,
old
housing,
etc.
So
follow
up
about
additional
information
about
the
balancing
act
sites.
B
I
I
love
this
question
because
it
really
opens
up
the
doors
for
what
our
hopes
are
for
our
next
steps.
So
one
the
last
question
on
excuse
me.
The
last
option
on
the
balancing
act
tool
is,
is
a
place
for
people
to
include
a
comment.
Just
like
this.
B
It's
asking
you
what
your
strategy
would
be
or
what
kind
of
strategies
you
might
recommend
for
our
next
steps
of
the
map,
so
these
questions
could
certainly
lead
us
into
how
we
might
organize,
arrange
and
design
our
next
level
of
map
and
inform
it
in
ways
that
that
are
responsive
to
to
the
questions
that
you
just
asked
and
david.
I
see
that
you're
unmuted,
please,
please.
F
Well,
no,
I
think
you,
I
think
you
answered
it
pretty
well,
you
know
the
the
question
about
aging's
retail
centers
and
things
like
that.
You
know,
I
think,
that's
probably
for
the
next
stage
when
you
think
about
parcels
and
sizes,
there's
a
lot
of
options.
Hcb
generally
talks
about
parcels
between
half
an
acre,
which
is
about
22
000
square
feet
and
10
acres,
but
that's
a
huge
range
and
I
don't
think
it's
really.
E
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
quick
time
check
that
it
is
7
30,
so
we
have
about
a
half
hour
left
total
and
I
think
andy
we
can
do
maybe
10
more
minutes
of
questions.
Does
that
sound
good
or
15.
B
And
that
sounds
that
sounds
great.
Thank
you
lauren.
I
appreciate
the
time
check
and
sam
if
it's
not
too
awkward,
I
would
like
to
do
one
follow
on
with
david
sloane's
question
that
was
just
raised.
B
B
For
so
sure
we
would
have
loved
to
have
had
150
people
on
tonight,
but
we're
so
lucky
that
the
50
of
you
have
joined
us,
and
we
really
hope
that
they
spread
the
word
and
that
you
encourage
your
neighbors,
your
friends,
your
schoolmates,
your
your
family
to
participate,
because
everybody's
opinion
matters
in
this
in
this
process,
and
it's
it's
all
about
the
future
for
cupertino
and
who
better
to
help
plan
that
than
people
who
are
living
here
now
or
who
want
to
live
here
now.
Thank
you
for
that.
Sam.
C
Of
course,
okay,
we
have
a
couple
more
hands
raised.
B
B
The
different
tonalities
to
show
up
the
intention
initially
was
that
there
would
be
no
max
so
that
there
wasn't
this,
this
confusion
about
what
that
maximum
might
actually
mean,
and-
and
I
tried
to
set
maximum
so
high
for
each
one
and
I'll
say
it
now
much
higher
than
probably
any
of
these
areas
could
actually
withstand,
and
that
was
because
I
didn't
want
the
user
to
the
person
using
the
app
to
hit
that
wall,
where
the
pop-up
then
comes
down
and
tells
you
that
you've
reached
the
maximum.
B
B
The
the
app
makers
are
very
responsive
and
helpful
and
and
they're
evolving
the
tool
along
with
our
needs,
so
a
shout
out
to
everybody
out
there.
If
there's
any
opportunities,
you
see
to
improve
this
tool
for
your
experience,
please
do
share
that
with
us
throughout
this
process.
M
M
I
I
remember,
maybe
I'm
remembering
incorrectly,
but
it
is
really
it's
hard
to
get.
I
don't
know.
I
think
that
that
maximum
number,
I
would
have
appreciated
if
you
could
put
it
as
high,
even
if
it
was
higher
than
it
was
feasible
because
to
meet
these
numbers,
we're
going
to
go
have
to
go
higher
than
it's
feasible
anyway.
So
I
think
it's
confusing
and
it
puts
people
in
too
much
of
a
box
to
really
think
outside
of
the
box.
M
Now
I
haven't
done
it
yet,
so
I
can't
say
that
I'm
actually
correct
about
that,
but
that's
just
how
it
feels.
So
it
would
be
great
if,
if
you
could
get
these
people
to
change
it-
and
I
can't
believe
no
other
city
or
no
other
group
of
consultants
has
has
asked
them
to
change
that
limitation.
M
F
Yeah,
thank
you
and
I
yeah.
I
certainly
certainly
understand,
and
I
think
the
confusion
is
unfortunate-
the
the
numbers,
the
cap
numbers
on
each
area
we
put
really
artificially
high
higher
than
you
know.
We
believe
that
there
would
even
be
possible
capacity
for
those
areas.
I
don't
know
if
andy,
if
we
can
talk
to
them
to
raise
those
and
that
would
still
allow
it
to
gradiate
the
way
we
want
it
to.
B
I
I
can
do
that
actually
behind
the
scenes.
That
is
something
that
I
have
the
ability
for
it's
just
yes,
the
question
of
then
making
that
number
known.
We
could
put
that
within
a
text
within
the
information
box.
If
that's
helpful
for
people,
that's
that's
one
opportunity
as
well.
B
These
ceilings
will
make
a
lot
more
sense
as
we
get
further
along
and
and
as
we
do
iterative
maps.
So
as
we
get
into
map
number
three
or
four,
those
ceiling
numbers
are
going
to
be
very
important
for
us.
This
first
one,
the
inspiration
for
it
was.
I
wish
that
I
could
create
a
big
coloring
map
for
everybody
to
show
us
and
display
what
their
preference
is
for
for
all
of
the
different
areas
for
distribution
just
generally.
B
So,
if
I,
if
I
had
my
preference,
I
it
wouldn't
even
say
housing
units
on
it
and
it
would
just
be
a
big
coloring
mat.
We
just
we
need
as
as
simple
a
start
as
we
can
get
we're
gonna
get
more
granular
and
it's
gonna
be
pretty
quick.
So
it's
important
that
we
have
a
very
basic,
simple
start.
B
N
N
The
question
I
have,
I
was
filling
out
the
the
numbers
and
all
that
it
gets
down
to
the
bottom
and
asks
you
for
your
opinion
and
what
you
base
your
survey
on
and
I
could
put
a
quote
in,
but
then
it
still
says:
zero
housing,
even
though
there's
a
total
for
higher
or
someplace
else.
So
that
was
confusing.
N
But
at
the
very
bottom
it
does
say
that
what
you're
looking
for
is
more
of
a
gradient
look
and
not
individual
housing.
And
maybe,
if
you
clarified
that
with
folks,
they
might
feel
a
little
more
comfortable
filling
this
out.
That
you're
not
really
looking
exactly
at
the
number
of
houses,
but
where
you
kind
of
would
like
to
see
things
built,
perhaps
in
the
special
areas,
not
the
neighborhoods
or
the
neighborhoods,
not
the
special
areas,
or
something
like
that.
N
But
also
it
says
to
submit
your
your
responses
from
tonight
and
it's
like
if
you
haven't,
given
it
a
whole
lot
of
thought
before
tonight.
It
feels
a
little
uncomfortable
to
put
that
in
as
hey
here's,
my
opinion,
because
I
don't
know
if
you're
gonna
be
using
it
like
right
away
or
if
this
gives
people
still
an
opportunity
to
go
back
in
and
maybe
revise
it
a
little
bit
not
tonight.
But
later.
B
Thank
you
connie.
Those
are
great
comments
and
and
suggestions
absolutely,
and
I
apologize
that
I
didn't
maybe
make
that
that
context,
a
little
more
clear
that
that,
yes,
we're
not
looking
at
the
housing
units
exactly
at
all,
but
that's
a
function
of
the
app
the
tool
that
we
have
and
instead,
yes,
we
are
just
looking
for
general
general
distribution
of
where
the
housing
can
go
into
the
future,
and-
and
I
also
want
to
make
clear
that
we're
not
we're-
not
collecting
the
map
responses
tonight.
B
Specifically,
this
is
something
that
will
be
gathered
over
time
and,
as
we
have
meetings
with
our
advisory
groups
and
with
our
with
our
council
and
planning
commission,
those
will
be
points
in
time
in
preparation
for
those
meetings
where
we'll
take
a
snapshot.
So
please
everyone,
I'm
not.
We
are
not
expecting
you
to
make
all
of
these
decisions
on
the
fly.
The
intention
is
that
you
could
be
thoughtful
about
it.
That
there's
plenty
of
time
for
you
to
read
through
the
information
and
to
make
conscientious
choices.
That's
that's
the
ideal.
B
In
fact,
this
app
does
have
a
workshop
mode
where,
where
people
could
work
together
in
breakout
room
again,
that
might
be
something
that
we
look
to
doing
in
the
future
with
another
workshop.
But
that's
not
what
we're
doing
tonight
tonight,
we're
just
introducing
the
tool,
take
your
time
and
explore
and
try
things
on,
add
things
and
then
zero
it
out
again
for
yourself
and
and
then
submit
when
you
feel
like
it's
reflective
of
of
this
initial
intention,
it
won't
be
written
in
stone.
B
E
I
think
we
are,
but
it
is
7
40
and
I
think
we
have
time
to
address
the
last
two
hands
raised.
If
that
sounds
good
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
last
few
options.
H
Thank
you.
It's
been
a
very
imp,
a
very
informative
evening,
so
I
just
want
to
continue
with
something
one
that
I
have
four
points.
The
first
is
that
you
don't
have
to
answer
all
the
points.
It's
just
something
which
I
want
to
provide
as
inputs
so
think
about
some
ideas:
how
to
increase
participation,
because
everything
is
virtual,
so
participation
should
be
much
easier.
So
that's
first
point.
H
The
second
point
is
about
you
know,
along
with
the
max
housing
estimates,
is
it
possible
to
know
what
is
the
current
number
of
housing
units
available
in
neighborhood
areas
and
in
special
areas
because
neighborhood
areas,
you
know
we
want
to
know?
Typically,
you
know
what's
a
kind
of
current
density
across
the
city,
because
lots
of
inputs
have
been
given
saying
that
we
want
the
addition,
all
these
units
to
be
distributed
across
the
sticky,
so
that
kind
of
information
would
be
helpful.
H
The
third
point
is
that
we
definitely
need
to
understand
the
needs
of
the
eli,
vli
and
other
bmr
categories,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
want
a
walkable
solution
for
many
of
the
needs,
you
know
it
should
be
available
in
that
area.
For
example,
there
are,
there
are
certain
areas
I
I
am
aware
of
both
in
the
east
and
west
side
of
cupertino,
where
which
had
been
earmarked
for
some
kind
of
business
businesses.
There
are
already
apple,
had
leased
out
a
number
of
business
units
on
the
west
side.
H
So
is
there
a
way
that
you
know
something
can
be
done
so
that
it
can
address
some
of
the
local
needs
if
we
put
some
housing
over
there?
So
that's
third
point.
The
fourth
point
is
about.
We
definitely
need
help
and
funding
to
solve
some
of
the
mobility
issues.
H
In
case
you
know,
we
are
trying
to
bring
in
a
population
which
which
wants
that
kind
of
solution,
so
in
terms
of
transit
areas
and
all
those
kinds
of
things,
some
kind
of
planning
that
can
be
done
and
also
a
future
parking,
because
the
thing
is,
I
also
done
people
will
come
into
the
city
to
do
business
as
well.
So
you
know
we
need
parking,
we
it's.
H
We
can't
say
that
we
don't
need
parking,
but
at
the
same
time,
how
do
we
come
up
with
some
kind
of
parking
solutions
which
can
address
future
needs
a
decade
ahead
and
ahead
and
stuff
like
that?
We
know
that
the
the
sharing
economy
is
going
to
change
a
lot
of
dynamics,
but
just
as
an
input.
These
are
the
only
four
points.
I
don't
need
an
answer
today,
but
if
you
can
incorporate
somehow-
and
let
us
know
that
will
be
helpful.
M
Okay,
now
lisa
can
speak.
Okay,
I
thank
you.
I
don't
need
answers
either,
just
what
I
was
some
of
what
I
was
going
to
say
was
just
said
by
govind
and
also
connie.
I
agree
with
connie's
comments
about
the
mapping
and
and
what
I
want
to
make
sure
people
understand.
M
They're
listening,
it
may
not
understand,
is
and
what
makes
it
problematic
to
have
these
numbers
assigned
to
sites
for
a
number
of
units
is
the
number
of
units
is
dependent
on
the
size
of
the
units,
so
it's
so
all
over
the
place
that
having
any
numbers
assigned
really
is
probably
not
a
good
idea.
Why
don't
we
just
go
to
initially
to
the
basic?
M
I
think
the
numbers
should
be
eliminated
initially
in
this
first
round
is
probably
the
best
way
to
go
and
govern
to
mention
that
participation
is
easier
virtually,
but
I
don't
believe
it
is
as
effective
or
as
useful
as
in
person
round
tables
where
you
can
actually
have
an
ongoing
back
and
forth
conversation
and
ask
questions
of
the
people
at
your
table
and
it's
much
better
collaboration
that
way.
M
So
I
hope
we
can
get
to
some
of
that,
and
I
know
that's
not
your
fault,
it
really
needs
to
happen
because
that's
what's
happened
in
the
past
and
it's
it's
been
good.
People
have
understood
and
they've
had
the
table
with
these
big
old
maps
on
it
and
they're
drawn
circles
and
different
colors,
and
it
it
it's
way
more
real,
and
I
I
really
hope
we
get
to
that.
But
thank
you,
that's
it
and
I
I'm
trying
I
I
don't
mean
to
be
negative
about
everything.
E
I
do
think
if
we
are
leaving
the
last
10
minutes
for
a
wrap-up.
Maybe
we
do
have
time
to
answer.
Connie's
question
whose
hand
is
raised.
N
N
I
know
the
city
pretty
well,
and
so
I
realized
what
we
were
doing
so,
please
soften
my
comment
in
your
minds
as
far
as
that
goes
because
that
that
really
wasn't
my
my
intent,
I
just
thought
that
that
general
coloring
board
thing
was
a
was
a
helpful
construct.
N
That's
all
it
was,
and
I
do
appreciate
very
much
the
fact
of
thinking
having
the
maps
with
the
neighborhoods,
not
everybody's,
familiar
with
that
having
the
maps
with
the
special
areas
is
very
good
and
not
everybody's
familiar
with
that
all
those
little
descriptions
were
nice.
I
have
my
own
right
now
thought
about
that.
We
need
multi-family
home
buildings
and
where
I
might
be
thinking
to
put
them
and
so
yeah.
N
I
thought
that
was
very
useful
to
have
those
descriptions
where
it
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
what's
in
each
neighborhood,
and
so
I
thought
it
was
very
well
done.
Virtually
is
nice.
I've
been
in
both
situations
before
and
trying
to
think
with.
All
that
chatter
going
on
in
the
room
is
sometimes
not
that
beneficial
for
me,
so
I
think
different
people
respond
differently
to
different
tools,
so
keep
up
the
good
work,
and
thank
you
very
much.
F
Thank
you,
and
you
know
I'll
just
say
generally
with
the
tool
you
know
andy
and
emc
and
myself.
We
come
to
this
process
with
no
preconceptions
about
what
the
solution
is
and
the
tool
does
use
numbers
as
theoretical
unit
numbers,
but
each
click
is
not
one
unit.
Each
click
is
a
number
of
units,
it's
a
block
of
units,
so
it
is.
F
I
certainly
can
see
the
challenges
we
just
and
we'll
look
at
the
tool,
but
we
just
ask
everyone
to
think
about
it
and
use
it
in
a
conceptual
way,
because
we
aren't,
we
aren't
actually
citing
units.
At
this
point
we
we
want
a
road
map
from
the
public
on
where
you
know
the
best
opportunities
are
within
all
of
cupertino
for
vera's
housing,
because
you're
the
ones
that
live
here
you're
the
ones
that
drive
the
streets
every
day,
you're
the
ones
that
are
the
experts
on
the
community.
E
Thank
you
andy
and
david
for
answering
all
those
questions.
Unless
there's
any
other
comments
from
andy
or
david,
I
think
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
and
so
this
is
our
last
poll.
We
asked
this
question
before
at
the
beginning
of
the
workshop,
and
it
is
how
confident
are
you
now
that
we're,
at
the
end
of
the
workshop
about
the
cupertino
community's
abilities
to
collaborate
on
the
best
locations
for
future
housing
to
meet
the
state
standards.
E
E
E
E
We
don't
have
a
slide,
comparing
the
this
result
to
the
first
one,
but
I
can
say
that
it
is
very
similar
from
the
beginning,
so
it
is
really
good
feedback
to.
Let
us
know
what
we
can
improve
upon
for
our
future
outreach
efforts,
and
we
appreciate
everybody's
participation
throughout
the
workshop.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
yes,
so
in
wrapping
up
we
we
have
a
a
great
surprise
here
for
us
all.
We
have
results
of
our
word
clouds,
which
means
we're
going
to
share
back
with
you
what
we
heard
through
chat
with
our
three
questions,
if
you
could?
Yes,
thank
you,
so
our
our
first
word
cloud
in
one
word:
what
draws
you
to
live
in
cupertino?
We
see
schools
and
community,
they
got
repeated,
often
location,
long
term.
F
I
think
these
really
reinforce
you
know
a
lot
of
what
we
heard
in
the
comments
and
what
we,
what
we
do
know
of
cupertino
in
terms
of
you
know
what
a
great
community,
the
great
schools,
the
location,
obviously
is
ideal
in
the
south
bay.
You
know
this
kind
of
resonates
with
us
with
what
we've
heard
from
the
community
as
we've
spoken
with
them.
B
So
up
to
two
words:
what
part
of
cupertino
isn't
working
and
we
can
see
housing,
affordability,
that's
the
big
one.
Traffic.
F
I
mean
I
think
these
are
issues
that
the
bay
area
at
large
is
dealing
with.
You
know
it
is
challenging
to
live
in
the
bay
area,
and
cupertino
is
a
microcosm
of
that.
F
The
the
prices
are
very
high
and
housing
affordability,
it's
difficult
and
there's
not
a
great
supply
of
housing,
and
that's
something
that
you
know
the
the
state
is
trying
to
solve
that
or
or
help
push
forward
with
the
arena
process
as
difficult
as
it
is.
Sometimes
that
is
you
know
the
the
hope
is
that
can
help
start
solving
that
this
can
be
that
first
step.
B
F
B
Yeah,
that's
that's
what
we're
here
to
help
connect
the
dots
for
and
can't
do
it
without
the
community,
so
we're
so
glad
that
you
all
came
out
tonight
and
participated
and
for
those
watching
after
this
has
been
archived.
Thank
you
for
your
time
as
well
and
for
anyone
out
there
watching
on
television,
we're
excited
to
move
forward
into
the
future
and
to
to
help
connect
the
dots
on
bringing
affordable
housing
capacity
to
cupertino.
A
Yeah,
this
is
ben
fu,
director
of
elements.
I
want
to
thank
the
ems
emc
team,
for
your
presentation,
but
most
of
all
I
want
to
thank
the
community
for
being
with
us
here
tonight.
I
know
it's
not
easy
doing
a
work
week,
everyone's
busy,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
feedback
we'll
take
all
those
to
heart,
we'll
discuss
and
make
improvements.
Hopefully
you'll
see
those
in
the
next
round
of
discussions,
so
just
want
to
say
on
behalf
of
the
city
staff
and
also
consulting
team.
B
Thank
you
ben.
It's
sure,
a
pleasure
to
work
with
your
team
and
to
get
to
know
your
community
better
and
we're
looking
forward
to
next
steps
and
we'll
keep
everybody
informed
through
the
website
about
opportunities
to
continue
to
participate
and
help
inform
this
process.
So
our
decision
makers
here
in
cupertino
can
feel
confident
that
the
decisions
that
they're
making
in
the
end
are
reflective
of
the
community
desires
and
lauren.
I
see
you
coming
on.
E
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
that
once
the
video
team
ends
the
webinar,
there
will
be
an
exit
survey
that
you'll
be
prompted
to
take
and
we
encourage
everyone
to
participate
in
that
there.
I
believe
there
is
a
text
box
in
the
last
question
where
you
can
provide
more
comments
as
well
on
how
we
can
improve
for
next
time.
B
Well,
thank
you
to
everybody
for
showing
up
tonight
and
for
participating,
and
we
wish
you
well
and
have
a
happy
holiday
season
and
thank
you
and
good
night.