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From YouTube: Cupertino Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting - November 17, 2022 (Live Streamed Version)
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Coverage of the November 17, 2022 Cupertino Parks and Recreation Commission Teleconference Meeting.
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Okay,
hi
I
think
this
is
Sashi
bigor,
the
chair
of
the
parks
and
rec
commission
I'm
sitting
in
for
a
minute,
our
chair
manager,
for
a
chair.
It
is
604
and
I
call
this
meeting
to
order.
B
So
the
first
order
of
business
for
us
will
be
roll
calls.
D
B
Okay,
do
we
have
any
oral
communication?
There
are
a
lot
of
participants
in
our
meeting.
D
B
Right,
so
do
we
go
around
the
room,
Jessica
and
figure
out.
B
Okay,
so
then
we
go
on
to
any
kind
of
oral
Communications.
Where
am
I
there
we
go
I'm
looking
at
attendees
and
I.
Don't
see
anybody
using
their
hand
at
this
point
so
then
do
we
have
any
written
Communications.
B
If
we
go
to
our
first
topic,
that
is
under
an
update
to
the
Joint
Commission,
sorry,
what
go
just
a
second
give
me
looking
the
topic
on
this
is
the
Lawrence
Mitty.
So
we
start
with
your
update
Rochelle.
G
Good
evening,
Commissioners
I
am
Susan,
Michael,
CIP
manager
and
we're
here.
John,
roommakers
and
I
are
the
project
managers
on
the
Lawrence,
midi,
Park
and
trail
plan
project.
It's
a
CIP
project
and
we
also
have
our
team,
the
designers
from
Mig,
Jan,
Iceland
and
Marinette
ortz
here
and
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
them
to
go
through
the
slides.
I
will
say
that
tonight.
What
we're
here
to
do
is
to
share
our
updates
on
the
project.
We've
gone
through
the
initial
sign
phase.
G
We
developed
three
design,
Alternatives
alternatives
and
have
gotten
Community
input
from
that
on
those
designs.
If
you
go
to
engage,
cupertino.org
you'll
see
the
design
Alternatives
and
we're
also
going
to
share
them
tonight,
and
you
can
see
the
survey
that
was
up
and
all
sorts
of
great
things
that
we've
been
doing
on
the
project
so
tonight.
G
H
All
right
great,
thank
you,
Susan
and
you've.
Pretty
much
covered
the
agenda,
so
I
will
get
to
first
thing
is
the
project
overview
we've
met
with
you
all
before,
so
this
is
going
to
be
really
brief.
We're
just
gonna
do
a
super
quick
recap
of
what
the
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today.
H
H
So
you
all
are
pretty
familiar
with
this
project.
By
now,
it
all
started
with
a
need
for
more
Parks
based
on
the
east
side
of
Cupertino,
and
you
can
see
our
site
here
on
the
screen
on
the
very
far
right,
a
sandwich
between
the
Saratoga
Creek
and
the
Lawrence
Expressway,
and
here's
just
a
zoom
in
on
the
site.
It's
about
a
half
mile
long
and
some
photos
of
the
existing
conditions
there
at
the
site.
H
So
just
to
recap,
phase
one.
We
took
those
existing
conditions,
looked
at
them
closely
in
our
technical
site,
analysis
to
really
understand,
what's
feasible
for
this
site,
how
we
can
address
you
know
it
does,
have
its
challenges,
how
we
can
address
those
and
how
we
can
also
make
the
most
of
his
opportunities
and
then
the
phase
two
we
led
a
community
visiting
effort,
really
understand
what
the
community
wanted
to
see
here
at
this
site,
because
this
part
Park
is
ultimately
for
them,
and
that
really
brings
us
to
where
we
are.
H
Today
we
took
that
feedback
and
that
analysis
and
it
led
us
to
three
design
alternatives
that
were
shared
with
the
community
over
the
throughout
the
month
of
October
in
various
ways.
H
So,
based
on
what
we
heard,
we
didn't
want
to
make
three
competing
Alternatives.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
Alternatives
had
those
features
that
were
most
important
to
the
Community
Vision,
so
you'll
see
differences
in
the
Alternatives,
but
there
are
definitely
some
commonalities
in
all
of
them
too.
H
So
in
all
of
them
we
have
this
emphasis
on
biking,
walking,
play
nature
in
the
creek
and
in
all
of
them
we
extend
the
multi-use
trail
to
the
north
edge
of
the
park
site,
and
then
we
also
allow
for
a
future
connection
further
north
outside
of
the
park.
And
then
we
also
include
walking
trails
that
are
separated
from
the
bikes,
because
that
was
a
widespread
concern,
making
sure
it
was
separation
and
then
all
of
them
have
comfort
and
safety
features
things
like
seating.
H
There
are
varying
ways:
sound
wall
or
fencing
is
treated
in
each
design
and
we
included
an
emergency
phone
and
then
all
of
them
have
extensive
planting
so
more
shade
trees
and
more
native
plantings
along
the
creek.
So
then,
on
top
of
all
those
Baseline
features.
Each
concept
that
you're
about
to
see
next
has
more
of
a
unique
Focus
for
those
additional
features,
so
we're
working
within
a
budget,
so
there's
cost
trade-offs
and
so
we're
showing
what
we
showed
the
community
different
ways
that
we
could
develop
the
park.
H
H
We
call
this
one
wheel
fun
because
it
really
goes
in
on
the
all
in
on
the
bike
features
which
was
a
natural
fit,
given
that
this
site
really
gets
accessed
by
bicycles
from
multiple
directions
and
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
parking
options,
and
so
this
is
each
each
concept
has
photos
and
a
diagram
on
the
first
sheet
and
then
the
second
sheet
really
goes
into
detail
on
the
plan
and
you
can
see
all
the
features
labeled
with
photos
so
in
wheel,
fun
on
the
North
End,
you
can
see
there's
a
small
to
mid-sized
BMX
skills
course
meant
for
teens
and
adults,
and
then
there's
also
seating
and
walking
paths
and
exercise
stations
around
that
North
End,
so
that
people
who
don't
want
to
do
the
bike
activities
also
have
things
to
do
there
and
then
you'll
see
in
the
middle
there's
an
arrow
pointing
to
Sterling
Barnhart
this
concept
that
provides
a
single
user
restroom
there.
H
And
then,
if
you
look
on
the
left
side
of
the
page
at
the
south
end,
this
is
the
part
that
has
the
existing
Trail
already
through
it.
We've
added
some
some
features
in
this
one.
It
has
a
small
bicycle
pump
track
for
younger
kids,
and
that
would
be
just
be
a
small
trail
that
we
use
through
the
trees,
and
then
there
are
new
walking
trails,
Fitness
stations
and
small
nature,
Play
Elements
that
will
also
appeal
to
all
ages
and
those
that
are
not
into
biking.
H
H
It
packs
a
lot
in
there
providing
play,
and
fitness
features
that
kind
of
build
on
what's
already
offered
at
Sterling
Barnhart,
which
is
kind
of
a
small
footprint.
So
this
one
allows
you
to
offer
a
little
bit
bigger
features
for
the
older
kids
and
you
can
see
in
the
plan
here.
The
play
elements
that
are
included
are
a
net
climber
geared
more
towards
ages.
H
Five
to
twelve
basket
swings
that
really
work
for
singles
doubles
and
all
ages,
like
I've
seen
tots
on
their
grandparents
all
ages
and
then
also
a
log
Scramble
for
nature
play
also
on
this
plan
are
Fitness
stations
that
are
placed
around
a
loop
path
that
surrounds
a
flexible
lawn
space
and
then
also
like
concept
A.
This
one
has
a
single
user
restroom
at
Sterling,
Barnhart
Park
and
then
because
we
packed
so
much
in
the
North
End
on
this
one.
This
one
has
a
much
more
simple
approach
this
to
the
South
Bend.
I
Right,
thank
you
Jen
good
evening,
everyone
so
we'll
share
with
you
what
we
heard
from
the
community.
We
brought
the
three
concepts
to
them,
both
in
person
and
online
through
various
events.
So
the
first
in-person
event
was
a
pop-up
event
at
the
library
and
we
were
able
to
engage
with
families
with
younger
children
and
teenagers
and
concept.
B
storytrail
was
the
most
popular
from
that
activity.
In
our
second
in-person
event,
at
the
actual
site,
we
allowed
people
to
come
and
experience
the
location
and
give
us
their
feedback
there.
I
In
this
event,
we
heard
that
concept
C
was
the
most
popular
they
wanted
play
it
up
and
have
more,
but
more
of
the
nature,
Play
features
for
all
ages
and
then
in
cons
in
the
final
event
with
the
community,
this
was
a
virtual
community
meeting
with
a
smaller
sample
size
concept.
B
was
also
the
most
popular
from
this
one,
based
on
the
online
polling
that
we
did
during
the
meeting.
I
We
also
hosted
an
online
survey
for
the
month
of
October
and
we
received
over
the
370
responses
about
78
of
them
were
from
Cupertino
residents,
and
you
can
see
the
breakdown
here
of
the
different
neighborhoods
that
they
represent,
primarily
those
neighboring
the
site
and
then
a
few
residents
from
West
San
Jose
also
responded
to
the
survey
and
in
the
next
couple's,
slides
we'll
go
through
what
we
heard
so
for
each
of
the
concepts
we
asked
the
community.
What
were
their
preferred
features,
as
you
saw
in
those
earlier
slides?
I
What
were
those
photos
or
elements
that
they
thought
were
their
favorite
and
so
for
concept,
A,
the
creek
side,
bench
Overlook
and
nature.
Play
Elements
came
up
top
for
preferred
features
for
concept
B
in
the
story,
Trail
concept:
they
agreed
that
con
Creekside
deck
Overlook,
so
a
similar
type
of
Overlook
or
an
expanded
nature.
A
natural
area
were
their
favorites
for
concept.
C
play
it
up.
The
Creekside
bench
overlooks
again.
These
were
really
popular
across
the
the
three
features.
I
The
three
concepts,
as
well
as
play
area
features,
were
rows
to
the
top
here
you're,
seeing
a
comparison
of
all
the
features
across
the
three
concepts,
and
we
wanted
to
just
show
you,
regardless
of
what
concept
people
were
selecting
here,
were
the
favorite
features
that
came
to
to
to
the
top,
so
the
Creekside
bench
overlooks
you'll
see
is
twice
on
here,
just
because
it
showed
up
in
concept,
A
and
C,
and
it
was
popular
in
both
of
those.
I
We
also
asked
participants
who
responded
to.
Let
us
know
what
their
least
important
feature
was
across
the
different
concepts,
and
so
here
you're.
Seeing
that
comparison,
the
bike
skills
course
and
the
bike
pump
track
were
the
least
important,
so
you're,
seeing
those
at
the
bottom
and
then
when
they
had
to
vote
between
a
b
or
c
again
story.
Trail
similar
to
our
in-person
events
story.
Trail
was
the
top
with
47
of
the
votes.
I
And
when
we
asked
you
know
generally,
regardless
of
what
concept
you
selected,
what
were
your?
Why
were
you
selecting
these
Concepts?
What
sort
of
stood
out
to
you?
The
top
choices,
were
that
it
had
the
nature
experience
that
they
were
looking
for
or
it
provided
a
play
for
all
ages,
as
well
as
having
green
spaces
or
open
spaces.
So
these
were
the
top
preferences
of
why
people
chose
the
concept
that
they
selected
and
then
we
also
asked
participants
to
think
about
some
of
the
cost
trade-offs
when
they
were
selecting
their
Concepts.
I
I
And
we
broke
off
the
data
to
show
you
just
the
Rancho
Rinconada
residents
and
what
their
preferences
were,
because
that's
what
we
heard
in
the
initial
round
of
Engagement,
we
really
wanted
to
engage
the
local,
immediate,
neighbors
and
recognize
what
their
preferences
were.
So,
when
asked
around
the
trade-off,
the
most
important
elements
for
the
immediate
Neighbors
in
this
neighborhood
were
to
have
the
sound
wall
up
as
much
as
possible,
as
well
as
include
as
many
Recreation
features
as
possible.
I
I
And
then
we
had
an
open-ended
question.
What
else
did
community
members
like
to
share
with
us,
and
so
this
really
aligned
with
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
we
had
heard
in
the
initial
face
of
Engagement
back
in
the
spring
concerns
around
parking
safety
making.
Sure,
like
Jan,
said
that
there
was
safety
and
division
between
bikes
or
bikers
and
other
users,
but
making
sure
that
there's
also
a
passive
space
or
quiet
space
and
that
the
sound
wall
would
impact
visibility
and
safety.
So
these
concerns
came
back
up.
I
And
so
here
you're,
seeing
we
just
wrapped
up
the
online
summary
online
survey
summary,
but
here
you're,
seeing
the
combined
votes
across
the
in-person
events,
the
virtual
meeting
and
the
online
survey,
so
that
you
can
see
that
again
concept
B
really
stood
out
regardless.
If
it
was
the
survey
online
or
in
person
as
the
preferred
concept
for
residents.
I
And
then,
here
again
comparing
across
engagement
in
person
and
online,
what
were
the
preferred
features
and
so
you're
seeing
the
list
as
as
we
showed
earlier
in
the
previous
slide,
but
now
adding
the
in-person
votes
as
well,
and
so
the
Creekside
deck
and
overlooks
the
nature
areas.
Nature
play
are
really
at
top
as
you're
seeing
here.
I
So
all
of
this
engagement
and
input
really
is
giving
us
this
direction
for
that
final
concept.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
to
include
the
connection
to
Nature
open
views
to
the
creek
as
top
priorities,
why
people
were
inclined
to
vote
for
concept
b
or
con
story
Trail
and
then
including
some
additional
priorities,
because
this
one
is
more
focused
on
nature.
I
So
with
all
that
information.
What's
next,
we
are
getting
ready
to
again
design
the
final
Park
Trail
plan
and
design
where
we've
heard
from
the
community
across
the
different
concepts
last
night
and
tonight
we're
hearing
from
all
of
U.S
Commissioners
and
then
we're
going
to
City
Council
in
the
coming
months
to
share
this
with
them
as
well
and
really
bring
all
of
this
together
into
one
final
design
of
the
of
the
site.
I
That
is
site
appropriate
with
some
of
the
limitations
and
constraints
that
we
found
earlier
on
in
the
process,
making
sure
that
it's
cost
effective,
as
well
as
designed
for
opportunities
for
all
ages
and
engaging
all
ages
and
meeting
the
community's
needs.
That
we've
heard
throughout
the
process
and
with
that
we'll
pass
it
back
to
the
Commissioners
for
discussion.
F
I
have
a
question
I.
Thank
you
so
much.
This
was
a
very
good
presentation.
One
question
I
have
is
people
were
looking
for
open
views
of
the
creek?
What
are
we
doing
with
regard
to
a
lot
of
homeless
encampments,
especially
if
we
were
to
open
it
up,
for
you
know
greater
viewing
of
the
Creek
area.
G
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
can
answer
that,
if
that's
all
right
with
the
chair
sure
so
we
are
as
a
public
works,
we're
trying
to
address
the
encampments
now
and
trying
to
stay
on
that.
The
idea
is
that
when
and
if
this
is
a
more
used
property
and
inhabited
it
won't,
we
won't
have
the
same
problems.
G
We
will
have
we're
working
with
Sheriff
and
and
just
we're,
bearing
in
mind
as
we
proceed
with
the
design,
but
know
that
the
implementation
of
the
project
probably
won't
happen
until
a
year
from
now.
So
you
know
we'll
hope
that
conditions
improve.
B
All
right,
commissioner
Stan,
you
have
any
questions
or
comments.
D
Yes,
thank
you
for
recognizing
me.
One
question
I
had
was,
which
other
commissions
are
you
speaking
with
I'm
guessing
bike
pad?
Are
there
of
any
others.
G
G
They
they
didn't
have
anything
that
was
Earth
shattering.
They're.
Definitely
wanting
to
see
a
connection
to
the
North
End
of
the
parcel
for
this
project.
We're
designing
this
parcel
and
we're
keeping
the
options
open
for
the
future,
but
since
we
don't
own
the
property
up
there,
that
isn't
a
part
of
this
project
per
se.
So
they've
asked
that
we
included
in
next
year's
CIP
to
have
that
as
a
project
to
include
the
Calvert
Drive
make
a
connection
there.
G
D
Was
their
main
concern
super
yeah,
thank
you
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
so
right
now
you're
you're
going
to
be
taking
something
to
council.
That,
basically,
is,
are
these
three
showing
them
the
three
options
where
the
interest
is
from
the
residents?
So
is
this
the
time
when
we'll
be
deciding
what
are
the
actual
nature?
Play
Elements
is
that
at
a
later
stage,.
G
Yes,
so
we'll
be
taking
so
the
the
concept
we're
bringing
to
you
and
to
the
council
is:
we've
done.
Community
outreach.
We've
produced
these
designs,
we've
done
the
Outreach.
The
community
has
spoken
and
said
they
like
option
b
with
some
of
the
features,
maybe
from
c,
and
so
that's
the
basis
on
which
we're
proceeding
and
so
we're
doing
a
you
know,
final
check
before
we
proceed
down
that
road.
B
For
minutes,
but
in
the
meantime,
the
one
question
that
I
had
before
I
open
it
up.
There
are
a
couple,
there's
one
hand
up
so
just
for
clarity
of
this
discussion.
Just
about
this
do
we
have
a
timeline
that
we
specified
other
than
the
overall
timeline
that
was
in
the
report
for
all
of
these
phases.
I
know
there
was
23,
it's
a
22
23,
but
was
there
any
kind
of
a
timeline
provided
somewhere
that
I
missed?
We.
H
Sure
the
next
phase
will
be,
we
think,
we're
going
to
council
now
in
January
and
then
we'll
be
doing
that
final
plan.
And
then
we
take
that
final
plan
into
that
environmental
review
process.
That
does
take
a
little
time.
So
that
would
be
about
June
or
July
next
year
and
then,
after
that's
approved,
we
can
start
the
construction
drawing
process
and
then
we
think
the
actual
construction
would
be
starting
in
2024..
B
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
participants
here
and
I
believe
we
have
Jennifer
once
was
ready
for
pants,
so
shall
I
I'd
love
you
to
talk.
J
Thank
you.
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
good!
Thank
you.
That
was
a
wonderful
presentation.
I'll
tell
you.
Mig
has
just
been
so
professional
in
this
entire
Endeavor
I'm,
very,
very
impressed
with
all
the
Care.
They
took
how
much
input
they
got
from
all
different
parts
of
the
public.
J
I
was
present
for
two
of
the
on-sites
at
the
actual
Park.
We
walked
around
I,
actually,
I,
don't
walk
well
and
I
actually
got
myself
out
there,
which
was
amazing.
I
was
really
sore
when
I
came
back
because
I
I
have
gout.
So
it's
difficult
for
me
to
walk
distances,
but
it
is
really
fantastic
I'm.
So
amazed
at
the
amount
of
oak
trees
and
it's
a
good
nature
inside
pardon.
J
J
Just
wonderful
and
I'm,
a
real
proponent
of
b
or
c,
and
my
concerns
were
having
since
I,
don't
walk
great
distances,
I'm
hoping
someday
to
be
able
to
walk
from
my
house
to
this
park
without
my
husband
bringing
me
but
I'm,
really
looking
to
have
benches
quiet,
maybe
picnic
tables
places
for
kids
to
do
enjoy
the
nature
area.
J
I
would
like
to
have
an
emergency
phone
out
there
just
from
the
history
of
the
area.
There's
lots
of
things
that
have
happened
out
there
and
I'm
particularly
concerned
about
security.
It
sounds
like
the
sheriff's
department
would
have
people
out
there
because
it
is
remote
and
you're
out
against
Lawrence
Expressway.
J
J
Hey
you
can't
there,
you
go
I'm
just
as
concerned
about
having
an
emergency
phone
and
remember
that
that
Creek
does
carry
a
high
load
of
water.
J
When
it's
raining,
so
we
may
need
to
put
fences
up
along
there
if
you
do
have
benches
for
protection
for
for
people,
but
I'm
really
I
like
B
and
C,
are
probably
my
favorite
ones
and
I
think
just
having
quiet
areas
where
you
can
sit
and
enjoy,
because
once
you
get
in
there
it
is,
you
know
you
do
have
the
noise
from
Lawrence,
but
then
again,
we've
had
the
noise
from
280.
Since
I
was
a
kid
actually
remember.
The
area
before
280
was
put
in.
J
D
K
Okay,
I
have
this
tiny
screen
I'm
trying
to
split
so
I,
don't
label
things
wrong.
Thank
you.
Yeah
Mig
I
said
last
night
at
my
head
meeting
that
they
they've
done
a
great
job.
Susan,
also
and
John.
I'm
sure
you
too,
but
Susan
seems
to
be
the
face
all
the
time.
So
I
know
she
doesn't
work
in
a
vacuum.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
and
I
I
would
want
to
repeat
something.
I
asked
a
long
time
ago.
K
Please
consider
changing
the
name
of
this
park
before
it
gets
etched
somewhere
because
I
don't
believe
this
is
appropriate
name
but
I.
Don't
okay,
so
I
am
I'm,
really
glad
that
the
community
who
who
participated
in
this,
the
feedback
has
sort
of
ixnade
the
whole
bike,
the
pump
and
the
track.
It's
not
appropriate
for
the
area.
In
my
opinion,
for
several
reasons
and
every
meeting
I
went
to
with
the
public.
That
was
not
a
priority
at
all.
K
What
was
mentioned.
A
lot
is
having
some
open
space
to
throw
a
frisbee.
If
if
there
were
ever
a
dollar
there
to
actually
have
some
area
for
dogs,
so
I
say
more
of
that-
or
it
was
mentioned
that
C
option,
C
I
think
it's
called
played
up
is
has
got
more
oomph
on
the
South
and
excuse
me
the
North
End,
then
the
south
side,
which
initially
I,
don't
think
anyone
really
expected
the
south
side
of
the
bridge
to
be
changed
as
part
of
this
park.
K
So
I
would
prefer
that
the
resources
that
we're
using
are
focused
on
the
north
side
and,
of
course,
improvements
to
the
South
side,
but
I
just
don't
see
that
being
used
as
much
and
we
can
get
more
packed
in
effectively
on
what's
the
bigger
piece
of
property
in
The
Wider
stretch,
it
makes
more
sense
to
me
so
my
my
preference
is
a
combination
of
B
and
C
and
I
I.
Think
I
prefer
more
of
C
than
b.
K
Of
course,
I
answered
the
survey
questions,
so
my
input's
in
there
with
everybody
else,
not
trying
to
say
I'm
the
only
one
that
matters
by
any
stretch,
but
it's
something
to
think
about
I,
think
and
also
last
night
at
the
meeting.
A
couple
of
Commissioners
bike,
ped
Commissioners,
were
asking
about
in
The
Carol
here
again
tonight.
K
Extension
outside
towards
Stevens,
Creek
I.
Think
it's
super
important
for
people
to
understand
that
Calvert
Drive
is
a
freeway
entrance.
It's
not
it's
not
a
great
place.
It's
where
the
unhoused
and
panhandlers
are
always
they've
been
there
for
years,
and
now
people
that
choose
to
go
into
the
Park
area
to
to
quote
unquote
live,
are
coming
in
in
a
more
difficult
way,
just
in
the
future.
When
that
section,
because
I
know
it's
not
now
it's
not
there's
not
a
great
place
to
make
a
connection
the
better
side.
K
L
Now
we
can
hear
you
okay,
so
now
and
is
there
any
community
members
want
to
make
our
communication.
B
I,
my
internet
is
really
acting
up,
so
I.
Thank
you.
Please
do
okay
and
then
I,
don't
kind
of
commission
would
be,
would
be
standby.
I'm
gonna,
try
and
go
to
my
heart
and
see
if
that's
better,
so.
L
Okay,
and
so
the
next
should
be
yeah,
I
I
just
want
to
know.
What's
the
next.
L
Oh
commissioner,
karastanic.
D
Thank
you,
yeah
I
want
to
thank
the
consultants
and
staff
for
all
their
hard
work
and,
and
the
Outreach
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
that
the
the
residents
were
focused
on
keeping
this
a
natural
play
area
and
I.
Think
that's
great
and
I
look
forward
to
moving
forward
in
the
process
and
at
the
time
when
we
will
have
more
discussion
about
the
actual
nature
elements
or
other
things
that
are
there.
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
Lisa
Warren
about
the
the
trail.
D
I
think
it's
something
that
we
really
need
to
look
at
very
carefully,
because
the
trail
is
coming
up
from
the
south
I
think
it's
the
Saratoga
bike
trail
that
connects
at
the
southern
end
and
I
know
that
bike
ped
has
been
looking
at
this
to
extend
that
trail
all
the
way,
so
whether
it
goes
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street
as
Lisa
Warren
was
suggesting
or
we
take
it
through
this
side.
I
know
that's
going
to
be
a
big
area
of
focus,
moving
forward
and
I.
D
Think,
as
we
look
at
the
three
options,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
was
a
given
was
that
there
would
be
a
bike
trail
through
here,
so
I
don't
want
that
to
get
overlooked
as
we're
looking
at.
Oh,
these
are
the
things
that
might
be
different.
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
baselines,
so
I
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
that,
but
the
things
that
were
baselines
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
I
think
could
be
brought
out
more
in
the
presentation.
G
Yes,
thank
you.
The
bike
trail
bike
and
Pad
Trail
are
both
part
and
parcel
of
the
design
in
any
of
the
designs
that
we
do.
Yeah.
D
Yeah,
so
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
that
was
stated
clearly
so
people
don't
forget
about
that
or
minimize
the
importance
of
that,
and
so
so
I'd
really
like
to
see
that
that,
on
there
I
think
I
understand
completely
why
the
the
Rancho
residents
feel
like
a
restroom
is
not
as
important
for
them,
because
they're
so
close
and
they're,
the
ones
that
are
probably
going
to
be
walking
to
the
park.
D
I
mean
and
other
people
are
going
to
be
walking
because
you
can't
get
there
by
driving,
but
there
may
be
bicycling
and
to
the
extent
that
we
want
families
to
come
or
older
people
or
just
about
anybody.
Our
bathrooms
are
pretty
important
amenity,
so
I
understand
that
that
seemed
to
be
lower
on
the
list
for
the
Rancho
Rinconada
respondents,
but
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
a
very
important
aspect
of
making
this
a
really
usable
park
for
families
with
young,
kids
and
people
of
all
ages.
I
think,
that's
all
my
comments.
B
Hopefully,
with
the
hot
spot,
my
internet
will
be
slightly
better
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
also
and
then
a
couple
of
comments
following
that
I
guess
the
the
question
I
have
was
you
know
how
given
the
drought
and
given
whatever
we're
dealing
with
when
was
the
creek
flowing
last
or
is
it
flowing
now,
given
that
there
is
some
we've
had
some
sort
of
rain
and
often
in
the
winter,
does
it
actually
flow?
L
Actually,
I
have
something
to
say:
I'm
living
close
by
and
I
think
10
years
ago
it
flows
all
year.
So
even
in
summer
there
was
water,
but
after
the
California
drought
yeah
it
just
stopped
in
from
you
know
spring
summer
and
fall
not
only
have
water
in
winter,
but
maybe
stuff
have
other
data.
If
you
would
like
to
share.
G
M
You
know
I,
as
you
mentioned,
I've
been
out
there
since
2015
on
and
off
and
I.
Don't
think
I've
ever
seen
water
in
there,
so
probably
wouldn't
go
out
on
a
rainy
day
anyways.
But
my
assumption
is
based
on
like
Ragnar
creeping
that
if
it
does
get
a
significant
rain,
it'll
probably
have
some
flow
in
it.
But
I
couldn't
tell
you
when
that
was
last.
B
So
do
we
want
to
you
know
figure
out,
you
know
maybe
have
more
trees,
I,
don't
know
something
else,
because
if
there
is
not
going
to
be
any
water,
there's
going
to
be
nothing
to
see,
and
if
it
is
raining
I
seriously
doubt
anybody
would
come
out
to
the
park
at
that
point.
B
The
other
question
question
comment
that
I
have
is.
There
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
sonic
wall
and
you
know
a
lot
of
concern
about
safety,
which
is
a
very,
very
valid
thing,
but
I
think,
given
the
the
closeness
to
Lawrence
Expressway,
is
there
an
air
quality
issue
as
well,
and
does
it
require
mode
freeze
to
be
planted
rather
than
removed
in
order
to
improve
the
air
quality
in
that
area?.
G
Actually
Jan
and
do
you
have
any
info
on
hand,
because
we
did
cover
all
that
in
the
environmental
report.
Yeah.
H
And
that's
part
of
the
sequel
process,
but
I
know
what
Mike
has
said
already
about
that
our
environmental
consultant
in-house.
Is
that
there's
not
a
it's,
not
gonna,
there's
not
a
requirement
that
it's
hitting
a
threshold.
I
mean
it's.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
as
good
as
other
areas
in
town,
but
if
there's
nothing
serious
that
that
we're
hitting
a
threshold
for.
B
H
Yeah,
that's
true.
There
wasn't
a
section
in
that,
but
in
the
SQL
process
it's
a
little
bit
more
in
depth.
That's
the
California
required
that
will
be
out
at
the
in
about
six
months
time.
Okay,
once
we
have
the
final
plan,
that's
when
they
start
doing
that
very
official
report
and
wrap
up
all
those.
B
Yeah
I
wonder
from
a
from
both
the
noise
perspective
and
the
air
quality
perspective,
since
we
do
have
the
trail
right
now
in
the
south
end
of
it
kind
of
information
about
this.
At
this
point.
B
A
B
People
walk
there,
and
so
do
we
have
any
information
at
all
about
the
air
quality
and
or
the
noise,
as
is
measured
right
now,.
G
We
measured
the
noise
quite
a
bit
in
the
initial
environmental
study,
so
what
we
we,
the
project
team,
actually
mig's
team
did
when
we
started,
was
to
go
out
and
measure
and
kind
of
quantify
and
document
as
much
as
we
could
about
the
existing
conditions
of
the
site,
and
in
this
case
the
site
is
environmental.
G
So
we
did
our
upfront
information.
So
that
was
the
initial
environmental
report
and
the
sound
studies
are
in
there
and
the
sound
wall
that
has
been
developed
is
that
there's
different.
Each
of
the
options
had
different
sound
wall
configurations,
but
the
designers
and
the
engineers
have
looked
at
it
and
know
where
the
the
best
locations
are
for
our
money
to
have
the
most
effect
on
the
sound.
But
as
Jan
is
saying
the
SQL
process
that
follows
once
we
have
a
design,
there
will
be
more
detailed
environmental
evaluation
to
do
that.
B
One
last
comment:
you
know
it's
the
the
the
fact
that
their
bike
biking
will
be
a
very
critical
part
of
it,
or
at
least
some
feedback
that
there
that's
an
essential
part.
I
am
I.
Think
we've
had
a
couple
of
you
know
we
have
the
joint
meeting.
That
was
very
big
concern
about
opening
it
out
on
the
North
End.
B
So
that's
something
that
we
really
have
to
be
very,
very,
very,
very
careful
about
of
how
that
trail
comes
out.
On
the
other
side,
that's
a
huge
concern
and
I
think
you
know
we
need
to
get
some
get
some
serious
study
or
feedback
on.
You
know
how
we're
going
to
work
through
that
issue,
because
it's
you
know,
bikes
within
Cupertino
and
your
schools
are
crazy
enough
to
start
with,
and
you
know
right
by
a
free
day
entrance
it's
just
asking
for
trouble.
L
Okay,
commissioner
Swami.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
Chu,
for
recognizing
me.
I
want
to
answer
sashi's,
commissioner
Sashi
Baker's
question
about.
When
was
it
that
we
last
Saw
water
I've
been
in
the
area
since
2014
and
like
you,
John
I,
haven't
seen
a
smidgen
of
what
I
do
see
some
water
with
this
rainy
season,
but
really
not
a
whole
lot
enough
to
see
a
continuous
trickle
or
a
flow
which
brings
up
the
second
point
that
commissioner
baker
said,
which
is:
should
we
have
alternative
or
some
additional
type
of
vegetation
over
there?
F
F
Yes,
the
sound
wall
sounds
that
it
is
a
requirement,
but
if
we
were
to
plant
a
lot
of
these
long
fur
trees,
not
the
broad
ones
but
the
thin
long
ones,
would
that
not
also
act
like
a
sound
barrier,
but
also
not
being
an
eyesore
just
want
to
ask
you
your
opinion
about
that,
from
your
expertise
and
your
from
that
standpoint,
please
would
love
to
hear
your
answer.
H
You
thank
you.
I
also
believed
that
foliage
would
have
an
impact
if
it
was
dense
enough,
but
the
noise
Consultants
say
that
is
a
common
misconception
and
it
really
doesn't
have
a
a
big
impact
on
suppressing
the
noise.
So
if
you
didn't
want
to
do
a
wall,
one
other
option
is
a
burn.
H
D
C
F
H
And
we
did
think
in
the.
If
we
were
doing
the
bike
skiing,
we
did
have
the
berm
as
a
instead
of
a
sound
while
we
use
utilized
a
berm
in
that
one
yeah.
We
might
not
want
to
sacrifice
the
space
in
the
other
schemes
because
there
were
reasons
to
do
it
in
the
bike
one.
H
We
needed
that
topography
anyway,
but
if
we
want
to
really
kind
of
maximize
our
community
space,
we
probably
want
to
lean
towards
the
sound
wall
just
to
get
the
most
space
for
the
amenities
and
the
bike
trail
and
the
walking
paths
and
everything.
F
So
is
that
a
recommendation
or
you're
saying
that
we
should
not
consider
the
alternative,
because
a
space
constraint,
or
are
you
saying
that
we
do
have
an
option
to
think
about
the
you
know
looking
at
it
from
it
also
provides
natural
habitat
right?
We
have.
We
can
have
the
nice
ground
cover,
we
could
have
all
kinds
of
trout
resistant
plants
in
there
and
that
also
provides
you
know
the
kind
of
relief
to
the
sore
eye.
F
One
would
say
one
could
argue
as
opposed
to
having
and
a
bright
Trail
really
doesn't
need
a
whole
lot
of
space.
Does
it
and
it's
not
wide
enough
for
a
whole
lot
of
playground,
kind
of
idea
area.
So
why
not
combine
the
bike
space
area
with
the
alternative,
where
we
are
not
actually
putting
an
eyesore,
and
this
also
looks
more
natural
and
it's
prettier.
A
H
F
F
L
You
and
I
also
have
some
question
about
the
trees
So
currently
there's
more
trees
by
Lawrence
at
South
End
of
the
trail,
but
for
the
North
End,
that's
a
major
place
of
the
Lawrence
meeting.
Park
I.
Remember:
there's
not
so
much
trees
along
Lawrence,
so
it's
right
the
place
on
the
map.
It
shows
it
maybe
have
a
potential
sound
wall
yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
and
there
is
also
an
option
to
plant
more
trees
instead
of
build
a
wall
is
that
true
did
I
misunderstood
anything
one.
G
Of
the
takeaways
from
the
community
input
was
the
emphasis
on
nature,
so
we
are
definitely
going
to
plant
more
trees
and
what
I
think
Jan
was
trying
to
say.
We
know
that
the
berm
is
a
less
expensive
and
yet
effective
option,
but
it
takes
up
space
on
the
area
of
the
parcel
where
there's
a
big
open
space-
that's
not
as
difficult
to
consider,
but
there
are
areas
of
the
site
that
are
really
tight
in
terms
of
width,
so
we're
trying
to
just
balance
the
two.
G
L
That's
that's.
A
variable
and
I
have
another
question.
So
are
we
going
to
install
the
new
irrigation
system
for
along
the
trail,
because
in
the
past
those
trees
by
the
creek?
Actually
they
were
not
watered.
L
G
And
Jen,
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
there's
definitely
going
to
be
an
irrigation
system
even
for
the
trees.
So
when
you
do
a
major
system
like
a
part,
you
definitely
have
to
have
a
higher
level
of
irrigation
to
get
it
started
and
then,
as
it
gets
more
mature
in
its
location,
you
don't
have
to
water
as
much,
but
we'll
need
to
have
irrigation
and
we're
also
engaging
with
the
public
work
stuff
to
make
sure
that
we're
covered
operationally.
G
L
D
I
had
a
couple
of
other
comments.
The
first
one
was
I,
guess
a
question
harking
back
to
Lisa
Warren's
comment
about
renaming.
When
would
the
appropriate
time
that
would
it
be
in
the
process
that
that
might
be
considered.
G
It's
definitely
on
our
list
of
things
to
do
we're
actually
trying
to
launch
a
survey
to
First
rename
the
I-280
trail,
and
we
also
have
it
in
the
project
plan
for
this
to
put
out
a
similar,
Endeavor
survey
or
somehow
get
a
new
name.
Yes,
we've
actually
we've.
Okay,
great
Lisa
has
mentioned
that
a
number
of
times
more
or
on
it.
D
So
I'm
sure,
if
it
comes
up
again,
if
you
know
at
least
if
it's
on
the
plan
somewhere,
then
she
can
say
I'm
so
glad
to
see
that
that's
happening,
and
we
can
all
say
that
and
then
the
other
thing
was
as
we're.
We
go
forward,
I
think
if
regardless
and
there
may
be
some
sound
well,
some
firm
to
the
extent
that
there
is
some
sound
wall
again
we're
going
to
want
to
make
it
aesthetic
and
you're
talking
about
trees.
D
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
opportunity,
of
course,
with
any
sound
wall.
You
want
to
be
concerned
about
graffiti,
and
so
maybe
if
we
have
something
that
would
be
something
that
people
would
appreciate
that
we
can
cut
that
back.
F
Thank
you.
I
really
want
to
retreat
why
we
should
really
consider
the
bomb
ball
seriously
because,
as
commissioner
stanik
also
pointed
out,
in
addition,
if
a
it's
more
sustainable
to,
as
commissioner
stanik
pointed
out,
there's
also
an
option
where
you
know
all
these
empty
walls
are
really
an
invitation
for
more
people
to
come
and
do
graffiti
and
two.
If
we
were
to
do
murals
or
any
other
kind
of
actual
art
up
there,
it
adds
to
the
cost.
F
The
point
of
that
is,
how
can
we
make
it
more
sustainable
pleasing
to
the
eye
and
use
natural?
You
know
elements
to
make
the
trail
exactly
what
it
is,
a
lovely
one
and
have
the
bike
trail
go
through.
So
for
the
short
spaces
that
I
heard
you
say
Susan
that
well,
the
space
is
somewhat
narrow.
F
We
could
certainly
consider
putting
up
a
wall
there
or
some
something
else,
but
I
I
don't
want
us
to
dismiss
off
the
the
burn
wall
as
an
alternative,
especially
because
a
sustainable,
B,
beautiful
three,
more
natural
four
prevents
being
an
eyesore
and
ISO
is
not
just
putting
trees
in
front
of
it,
but
also
it's
the
potential
for
graffiti
and
other
things.
F
L
And
I
have
some
questions
so
from
the
presentation.
I
didn't
see
other
than
the
new
restroom
in
the
Sterling
panhardt
park.
Is
there
other
restrooms
in
the
Lawrence
meeting?
Park
I
didn't
see
it
on
the
map
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
the
Barnhart
Park
is
very
tiny
and
the
Lawrence
media
Park
is
big.
I
assume
there
should
be
a
bigger
restroom
in
the
Lawrence
mini
Park.
L
G
In
two
of
the
options
we
included
a
restroom
to
get
feedback
and
in
both
of
the
options
we
included
the
restrooms
at
Sterling
Barnard.
The
feedback
that
we
I
think
the
takeaway
is
that
the
restroom
is
heavily
favored
by
most
users,
with
the
greatest
exception
being
the
neighbors
that
are
adjacent
to
the
park.
The
Sterling
Barnhart
Park
they're
very
opposed
to
having
the
bathroom
in
that
location
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
project
team,
including
John
and
myself,
are
going
to
look
into.
G
Is
the
cost
of
the
reality
of
trying
to
put
the
bathroom
in
the
actual
on
the
Lawrence
midi
parcel.
The
difficulty
of
doing
that
is
that
we
can't
pull
the
utilities,
water
and
sewer
from
the
city
of
Cupertino.
We
have
to
pull
it
from
the
city
of
San
Jose,
because
we
can't
cross
the
creek
bed,
but
we
are
going
to
look
into
the
reality
of
making
what
what
it
would
take
to
make
that
happen
and
I
know
that
Jan
and
myrna's
concern
is
the
budget
for
the
project.
So
we
have
to
balance
all
these
things.
L
N
L
G
L
And
I
have
another
question
about
the
creek
Outlook
I
didn't
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
So
in
do
you
know
the
height
of
the
Outlook
or
another
concern
about
the
safety
issue,
because
in
Winter
after
rain
the
creek
there
may
be
full
of
water
and
sometimes
the
water
is
mixed
with
sand
and
rocks.
So
the
water
just
turned,
yellow
or
even
black,
and
at
that
time
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
Outlook
that
yeah
there
won't
be
any
safety
issues
there.
G
The
this
is
where
I
rely
on
MRG,
they're
professionals
and
I,
don't
believe,
we'd
be
creating
a
dangerous
condition
there.
So
there
would
have
to
be
some
kind
of
guardrail
something
to
present
to
prevent
a
child
from
Falling
Down.
The
creek.
A
L
I
I
just
have
concern
about
the
base
of
the
Outlook
just
make
sure
when
the
creek
that
has
a
lot
of
water,
it
won't
damage
the
base
and
make
sure
the
Outlook
won't
collapse.
We're.
L
For
the
bike
trail
I
just
want
to
make
some
comments.
I
I
think
the
bike
trail
along
Lawrence
meeting
Park
and
it's
kind
of
different
from
the
Ragnar
Creek
Trail
condition,
because
there's
no
houses
on
by
the
trail
and
all
the
house
residential
houses
are
on
the
other
side
of
the
creek,
so
looks
like
yeah
I.
Don't
think
residents
will
have
some
concern
major
concern
about
the
bike
trail
because
you
know
it's
on
the
other
side
of
the
creek
and
but
for
the
north
side
of
the
Asad
future
Trail
connection
North.
L
G
Translation
is
at
the
top
of
the
park
or
the
parcel
doesn't
abut
city
of
Cupertino
property,
so
we
have
nowhere
to
go
so.
The
the
point
is
that
we're
taking
this
parcel
and
designing
this
parcel
as
a
park
and
a
trail
that's
on
it,
but
knowing
that
any
connection
to
the
noise
needs
to
be
a
future
another
project,
a
different
project.
So
what
we've
tried
to
do
for
this
project
is
to
we
actually
have
a
turnaround
at
the
end
of
the
trail,
so
that
the
the
trail
doesn't
just
hit
a
wall.
B
Yeah
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
with
regards
to
the
bathroom
that
I
forgot
to
make
earlier.
I
know
the
general
feedback
seems
to
be
that
we
need
to
put
that
bathroom
in
the
barn
heart
park.
That's
such
a
tiny
Park.
Where
can
we
possibly
put
it
I
mean
there
is
there's
a
big
structure
there
as
far
as
I,
remember,
I'm
doing
this
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I,
don't
see
that
there's
a
feasible
place
for
it.
B
You'll
have
to
either
remove
the
structure
or
remove
something
in
order
for
you
to
put
a
bathroom
there,
so
that
might
actually
cost
more
to
put
a
bathroom
there
than
to
get
the
lines
over
from
the
other
side.
It's
just
something
that
I
don't
know.
If
you've,
you
know
you've
already
taken
into
calculation.
G
G
But,
as
I
mentioned
that
we
got
a
significant
amount
of
pushback,
so
our
first
design
push
will
be
to
see
what
we
can
put
into
the
Lawrence
many
parcel
itself
instead
of
the
Sterling
Barnard
part,
but
no
promises
either
way.
We
need
to
work
that
out
in
the
next
phase
of
the
design.
B
Sure,
okay,
then
the
other
question
I
have-
and
this
is
more
of
a
general
question
and
because
I
don't
understand
this
process,
you
know
when
you
have
a
sound
wall
and
especially
that
it's
going
to
be
for
a
public
park.
B
Is
there
some
kind
of
a
recommendation
of
how
you
maintain
the
security?
Will
there
be
floodlights
or
some
kind
I
mean?
Obviously,
floodlights
are
going
to
have
its
own
environmental
effect,
but
will
there
be
some
cameras
or
something
that
turns
on
when
people
I
mean
what
what
are
options
that
people
can
have
so
that
somebody
walking
there
feels
safe?
G
So
we
definitely
we
considered
lighting
because
of
it
was
one
of
the
comments
earlier
comments.
We've
decided
against
putting
lighting
into
the
on
the
trail
because
of
the
habitat
concerns
the
security
concerns
we're
working
with
the
Public
Safety
Division
Sheriff's
Office,
the
fire
department
to
make
sure
that
we're
covering
our
bases
and
make
sure
we're
providing
a
safe
place
and
we'll
get
into
cameras,
and
things
like
that
in
the
next
phase
as
well.
But
it's
definitely
all
part
of
the
design
process.
L
O
O
For
today's
presentation,
I'll
be
giving
a
brief
background
on
the
item,
our
current
status,
the
fiscal
impact
and
then,
of
course,
your
your
input
and
feedback.
O
So
many
seniors
have
a
wealth
of
lifelong
experiences.
Many
teens
do
not
have
grandparents
nearby
activities
cross
Generations
could
benefit
both.
We
feel
that
you
know
intergenerational
programming
could
benefit
both
Generations.
It
could
help
combat
some
issues
that
seniors
face,
such
as
loneliness
or
depression,
as
well
as
getting
them
active,
and
it
also
can
give
youth
a
better
understanding
of
aging
and
disabilities
and
somewhat
of
a
comfort
level
for
that
process
of
their
life,
as
well
as
have
somewhat
of
a
mentorship
for
youth.
O
O
Currently,
staff
are
working
on
bringing
back
past
intergenerational
programming.
In
addition
to
incorporating
new
ideas.
A
former
pro
a
former
program
staff
intends
to
bring
back
is
titled
techy
teens.
This
program
provides
seniors
the
opportunity
to
receive
tech
support
at
the
senior
center
from
volunteer
high
school
students.
Another
return
program
is
Classics
and
cookies
seniors
enjoy
cookies,
while
listening
to
classical
music
performed
by
youth
musical
groups
possible.
New
programs
may
include
a
silent
disco
event:
arts
and
crafts,
socials
board
game,
socials
and
various
outdoor
activities.
O
L
Okay,
thank
you.
Is
there
any
commission
I
have
questions
I,
see,
commissioner
Swami.
F
Thank
you,
chair,
shoe,
I
must
say:
I
absolutely
am
in
love
with
this
intergenerational
program.
I
think
this
is
something
that
should
be
beneficial
not
only
psychologically
I
mean
psychologically
and
also
create
a
greater
degree
of
connectivity.
I'd
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
this
and
more
details
about
how
you
are
going,
how
we
can
strengthen
these
interrelational
intergenerational
relationships,
but
I
love
the
concept.
Absolutely
I,
think
that
is,
you
know,
there's
actually
a
lot
of
research
about
how
the
senior
citizens
feel
a
great
sense
of
loneliness
and
with
two
parents.
F
Actually,
you
know
working.
It
is
also
a
good
opportunity
for
people
for
two
different
generations
to
connect
and
learn
about
each
other
and
find
great
support.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
comment
that
I
love.
It
would
love
to
hear
more
about
it
and
if
you
want
to
do
expansions,
what
are
you
planning
to
do
in
the
future?
What's
your
long-term
vision
and
moderate
term
Vision
as
well.
E
If
I
may,
through
the
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
we
also
presented
this
to
the
teen
commission
and
they
were
very
excited
and
came
up
with
fabulous
ideas.
So
we
will
be
working
with
them
and
Our
Youth
Activity
Board,
to
come
up
with
more
great
things
that
we
can
do
in
the
future.
We're
rolling
it
out
a
Teensy
bit
slowly
because
we're
still
watching
our
seniors
come
back
from
covid,
but
we're.
F
B
Yeah,
thank
you
Alex
for
that
presentation.
Yes,
I
I
would
suck
in
words.
Seema
has
said
it's
an
excellent
idea.
B
I
mean
you
know.
That
is
something
that
will
really
help
all
the
generations
involved
in
this
in
this
project.
My
question,
really
just
from
the
presentation
perspective,
is
that
there
was
a
budget
of
20
000
that
was
assigned
by
the
city
given
I'm
assuming
and
I
should
not
but
I'm,
assuming
that
the
teens
that
participate
in
this
are
going
to
be
getting
some
voluntary
hours
or
something
like
that.
So
what
do
you
expect
will
be?
Is
it
the
cost
of
running
the
program?
E
I
can
take
this
one
Alex.
If
you
want
I
mean
it's
mostly
materials
supplies.
Obviously,
with
the
cookies
event,
there's
going
to
be
cookies
that
we
have
to
buy
some
events
will
have
snacks
and
and
other
items,
but
you
know
we.
We
definitely
don't
want
to
just
make
it
that
they
walk
in
and
there's
you
know
like,
let's
say
the
Musical
one
kids
playing
music.
E
E
We
also
may
bring
in
different
like
instructors
for
things
that
could
be
fun.
It
may
not
just
be
team
volunteering.
It
could
be
different
instructors
that
may
charge
it
could
be
speaking
engagements.
We
could
even
do
a
mental
health
and
bring
both
teams
and
seniors
in
and
that's
something
they
could
even
engage
over
because
both
Generations.
That
is
an
issue
and
then,
of
course,
if
we
do
the
silent
disco,
we
may
actually
be
purchasing
the
silent
disco
headsets,
because
why
would
we
not
want
to
keep
doing
that?
That's
totally
fun.
E
L
Oh
I
see
commissioner
question
again.
F
I,
it's
a
little
bit
less
of
a
question
than
a
recommendation.
You
know
we're
really,
especially
when
you
talk
about
the
senior
citizens.
I
know
that
culturally
cookies
fudges
brownies-
these
are
normal
go-to
snacks.
Can
we
consider
for
bringing
in
something
like
more
along
the
lines
of
fruits,
some
kind
of
a
healthy
snack,
especially
for
senior
citizens?
Many
of
them
are
either
diabetic
or
can
have
cholesterol
and
fruit
is
not
only
a
great
snack,
but
it's
also,
you
know,
I'm
a
strong
proponent
of
like
why?
F
Don't
we
just
propagate
not
just
mental
well-being
but
also
physical
well-being,
it
costs
I,
think
about
the
same
or
maybe
a
little
bit
cheaper,
but
that's
a
good
option
to
consider.
E
Feel
better
one
event
that
Alex
mentioned
it
is:
it
is
cookies,
that's
it's
part
of
the
name
of
the
event,
but
yes,
we
definitely
heard
that
from
the
Teen
commission
also
and
many
of
our
seniors,
who
also
bring
in
stuff
from
their
trees
in
their
yards
and
and
share
it
at
the
same
time.
So
there's
plenty
of
times
where
we
will
try
and
go
definitely
a
healthier
right.
E
F
F
Right,
but
if
you
ask
a
diabetic,
they'll
say
I'd
love
to
have
a
cookie
because
they're
deprived,
but
that's
not
really
good
right.
Why
don't
we
spend
a
little
bit
more
and
give
them
a
healthier
option?
F
Please,
let's
please
do
consider
that
I
say
this
with
a
genuine
sense
of
concern,
because
I
know
how
difficult
it
is
for
people
and
when
they
get
together-
and
this
is
I'll
tell
you
I
do
most
most
of
us
at
least
I
don't
like
cookies,
but
if
it's
in
front
of
me
I
will
eat
one,
and
it's
not
particularly
good
and
I
have
to
now
work
it
out
now.
Senior
citizens,
particularly
let's
be
mindful
of
their
health.
E
K
L
Shhh,
okay,
so
no
other
clarification
questions
and
thank
you
for
the
nice
presentation.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
that
just
hope
from
next
year,
yeah
this
program
will
be
yeah,
give
great
opportunity
for
kids
and
old
people,
so
they
can
have
good
time
together,
yeah
after
the
flu
season.
O
D
L
I
think
the
next
is
the
public
comments
for
this
item
yeah.
So
if
any
community
members,
you
have
anything
to
say
about
this,
our
gender
item,
please
raise
your
hand
and
I,
see
Jennifer
raised
hand.
J
Thank
you:
a
manager,
Miss
Miss
chairman
hi,
I'm,
Jennifer
Griffin.
This
is
a
really
interesting
item.
I'm,
really
glad
you
guys
were
pursuing.
This
I
was
lucky
enough
to
have
my
grandparents,
both
sets
of
them
and
then
another
set
by
another
marriage,
and
they
were
you
know
with
four
children
in
my
family,
my
grandparents
provided
on
hands
Hands-On
babysitting
for
my
mother.
You
know
who
was
trying
to
handle
three
boys
and
a
girl,
and
it
it
is
just
wonderful
that
people
have
children,
have
access
to
the
wisdom
of
older
people.
J
J
You
again:
okay,
hey
it
hang
on
I'll,
be
done
in
a
second,
no
I,
really
really
I.
Think
it's
very
a
lot
of
children
right
now.
We
actually
have
one
in
our
family
are
struggling
with
issues
as
they
go
back
to
school
in
terms
of
anxiety,
nervousness
and
I.
Think
that
having
older
people
in
their
families
or
schools
Etc
to
try
to
help
them
realize
that
they
got
through
it,
that
there
are
things
that
people
go
through
and
you
do
survive.
J
I
just
wanted
to
say
two
of
the
games
that
I
enjoyed
with
my
grandparents
were
Bingo,
especially
when
my
grandmother
lived
in
a
retirement
community,
loved
Bingo.
Now
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
do
Bingo
and
Cupertino,
you
may
have
to
get
a
permit,
I,
don't
know,
but
and
shuffleboard
now
I.
Oh
my
God,
my
grandparents
loved
shuffleboard
and
when
we
went
with
them
anywhere
there
were
lots
of
shuffleboard
championships.
J
I,
don't
know
if
they
do
that
now,
but
it's
great
for
seniors,
because
you
just
push
like
a
a
disc
back
and
forth,
and
a
lot
of
retirement
areas
have
access
to
it.
So
I
don't
even
know
if
we
have
a
shuffleboard
Court
in
Cupertino
anywhere,
you
might
it's
low
low
stress
for
the
seniors
and
the
kids
get
to
run
around
and
say:
oh
Grandpa
got
a
50
or
60
or
something
so
anyway.
J
Well,
good
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
a
wonderful
job
with
this,
and
it's
really
good
for
kids
to
have
access
to
here.
Another
generation's
perspective,
especially
when
you
go,
you
realize
that
these
seniors
have
gone
through
several
Wars
different
things
like
that
I
just
you
know,
I'm
I'm
really
really
supportive
of
what
you
guys
are
doing
with
this.
Thank
you.
L
N
So
I
just
had
a
quick
comment.
I
think
that
since
this
community
at
least
half
the
people
are
Chinese,
that
mahjong
is
wonderful.
You
cannot
go
through
Parks
and
Rec
commission
meeting
without
mentioning
Mahjong
as
an
intergenerational
a
game.
N
My
mother
just
went
who's
93
years
old
had
a
stroke
and
we
had
to
teach
her
language
again
and
the
thing
that
really
encouraged
her
to
learn
language
and
learn
how
to
count
Chinese
numbers
right,
because
it's
just
like
Jen
rummy,
where
you
have
the
Chinese
numbers,
she
learned
how
to
do
language
just
so,
she
could
go
back
to
playing
Mahjong
and
it
really
was
stimulating
and
it's
really
therapeutic
when
you
move
the
tiles
around
and
build
the
walls.
N
So
anyway,
I'm
and
I'm
sure
there's
other
games
from
India
that
are
real,
popular
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
way
to
have
the
cross-cultural
as
well
as
intergenerational.
N
So
you
know
so
there
you
have
it.
L
Oh
okay,
thank
you
for
your
comments.
Yeah,
okay,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
in
Senior,
Center
is
already
some
senior
play
mahjian,
but
I
I
see
in
the
sunny
video
so
that
that
senior
housing
by
Foothill
I
I
saw
those
senior
people
they
play.
Imagine,
they
lazy.
They
have
some
yeah,
that's
their
program
every
day
you.
E
L
Now
we
can
start
yeah,
commissioner,
you
can
start
your
comments
and
discussion
yeah,
commissioner
charisstanic.
D
Thank
you
yes,
I'd
just
like
to
reiterate,
it
looks
like
a
great
program.
I
think
it
will
be
very
well
received.
There
are
so
many
different
opportunities.
D
I
think
we
could
probably
go
on
all
night,
but
I
think
there
will
be
lots
of
opportunities
in
the
future
to
try
different
things
and
see
what
works,
whether
it's
Mahjong,
whether
it's
bringing
in
the
chess
club,
you
know
finding
out
what
seniors
hang
out
there
and
what
their
interests
are
and
if
they
need
a
partner
to
play
yes
or
cards
very
lots
of
different
card
games,
something
like
that.
D
A
resource
might
also
be
to
the
girl
and
boy
scout.
Community
I
know
that
the
Girl
Scouts
are
often
looking
for
ways
to
they
might
do
crafts
with
the
seniors.
Perhaps
you
know
early
in
the
Christmas
cycle,
they
could
figure
out
how
to
do
a
Christmas
ornament
or
maybe
you
know,
take
a
photo
and
create
an
ornament
with
the
seniors
photo
on
it
that
they
could
give
to
their
families.
So
there's
lots
of
things
and
there's
just
lots
of
opportunity.
Just
leads
it
to
the
imagination
is
the
only
thing
that
limits
it.
L
O
Yes,
that
that's
correct,
we
plan
to
outreach
definitely
with
the
school
district,
as
well
as
our
commissions,
our
youth
commissions
and
our
our
yab,
our
youth,
Advisory
Board
and
then
other
non-school
volunteer
groups.
We
plan
to
contact
them
and
with
with
the
support
of
the
Teen
commission,
a
lot
of
those
team
Commissioners
have
connections
to
outside
volunteer
groups
that
are
looking
for
volunteer
opportunities.
L
E
So
we
can
start
with
Commissioners
I'll
go
at
the
end.
If
you
any
of
you,
have
updates.
D
Thank
you.
I
participated
in
the
commissioner's
dinner,
where
I
saw
a
couple
of.
M
D
Was
a
very
nice
thank
you
from
the
council
recognizing
the
incoming
the
new
incoming
Commissioners
and
the
outgoing
Commissioners
as
well
for
their
time.
So
it's
a
very
nice
opportunity
to
be
in
a
different
environment
and
talk
about
things
that
are
not
necessarily
related
to
the
commission
and.
D
Know
each
other
a
little
better
I
think
it
was
very
nice
I
also
attended
the
Veterans
Day
celebration
over
at
Memorial,
Park
and
I
wanted
to
comment
on
a
couple
things.
One
I
was
just
driving
by
and
I
noticed
that
the
grassy
areas
at
Memorial
Park,
the
ponds,
are
replaced
with
grass
and
Landscaping
and
I
just
want
to
command
the
staff
for
getting
that
done
in
time.
For
the
Veterans
Day
celebration,
it
looks
beautiful.
D
If
you
haven't
been
over
there,
I
highly
recommend
it
and
the
fences
are
still
up,
but
I
think
that's
just
to
give
the
graph
some
time
to
settle
in
and
I
really
I'm,
so
appreciative
that
that
got
done.
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
the
organizers
of
the
Veterans
Day
event.
It
was
a
beautiful
event
and
I've
seen
that
Sandy
James
is
actually
one
of
our
attendees
tonight
and
I
know
she
has
a
lot
to
do
with
putting
on
that
program
and
it
was.
It
was
really
a
beautiful.
D
Thank
you
to
our
veterans,
and
there
were
so
many
veterans
there
from
going
as
far
back
as
World
War
II
and
some
of
the
employees
that
were
veterans
from
Apple
have
donated
a
new
Boulder
that
is
in
Memorial
Park
that
and
they
have
done
this
anonymously.
It
is
not
an
apple
donation,
it
is
from
these
Apple
employees
who
are
veterans
and
they
have
done
it
anonymously,
and
it's
very
nicely
done,
and
that
was
a
beautiful
event
and
I.
L
All
right,
thank
you.
I
I
see
my
share
with
your
hand,
but
oh
okay,
so
I
I
have
some
update.
I
joined
the
ceremony
and
as
a
Lawrence
media,
Park
site
that
day,
I
think
yeah.
Our
staff
did
a
great
job.
L
That's
you
know
they
prepared
everything
and
finally,
I
can
see
the
gate
open
to
the
Lawrence
meeting
Park
site,
because
in
the
past
it
was
always
locked
and
it's
great
to
see
how
the
landscape
looks
like
by
going
there
myself,
yeah
and
it
looks
like
yeah
a
lot
of
open
space
at
that
place
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
see
the
big
Park
in
the
future,
and
thank
you
and
I
see,
commissioner
Swami.
F
Yes,
I
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
the
mayor's
meeting
so
very
quickly.
So
a
couple
of
highlights
the
library
commission
organized
the
celebration
of
the
Diwali,
with
the
Rangoli
on
October
23rd
and
on
24th.
They
had
a
distinguished
author
event.
They
have
about
186
meeting
room
for
users
and
they
also
actually
had
a
sexual
orientation
and
gender
identity
occasion
and
meeting
on
October
5th.
They
are
also
working
on
community
programs
and
homework,
help
for
elementary
school
through
ninth
grade
and
and
also
organized
on
October
22nd,
a
bilingual
Music
Festival.
F
The
Planning
Commission
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
the
Lots
can
be
split.
Single
splitting
the
single
home
lots
into
multiple
lots
and
how
some
of
those
Flagship
a
flag
type
of
lots
can
can
be
divided
as
well
from
a
public
safety
standpoint.
They
talked
about
October
26th,
organizing,
a
Community
Hall
indoors
with
safety
issues.
Discussion,
including
a
dinner.
F
Lastly,
about
with
regard
to
bike
and
bike
and
bike
commission,
they
talked
about
assessing
the
intersection
of
Bob
Road
and
McClellan
Road
and
Bollinger
Road
for
a
safety
plan
perspective.
So
those
are
some
of
the
key
highlights
from
the
meeting.
I
must
say,
though,
commissioner
stanik
I
was
I,
really
missed.
The
commissioner
meeting,
although
I
RSV
paid
due
to
an
emergency
business
meeting,
which
is
why
I'm
out
here
in
Bentonville
I'm,
so
glad
that
you
all
had
a
great
time
and
we'll
catch
up
with
you
all
privately.
D
Sorry,
I
think
that
this
may
be
our
first
meeting
since
we
have
a
new
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation
and
I
would
like
to
congratulate
Rochelle
on
her
promotion
and
well-deserved,
and
congratulations
so
glad
to
have
you
here.
Thank
you.
L
Okay,
the
next
one
is
Vice
chair,
bigger.
B
Speaking
of
emergencies,
I
miss
the
mayor's
program
mayor's
meeting
in
November,
so
I
will
offer
my
services
for
December.
Unfortunately,
I
had
something
that
I
had
to
take
care
of.
I
completely
lost
I
did
not
even
think
of
contacting
someone
else
to
go
and
attend
the
November
meeting.
So
I
will
offer
my
services
for
December
unless
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
do
that,
commissioner,
standing.
E
Then
I'll
go
ahead,
so
thank
you,
Carol,
yes,
I
am
your
new
director
and
I
am
very
excited
to
be
your
new
director.
E
I've
worked
for
the
city
for
21
years
and
I've
lived
in
the
city,
my
entire
life,
my
whole
family
lives
here.
So
Cupertino
is
one
of
my
first
loves,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
be
in
this
position,
and
a
lot
of
it
is
my
team.
I
have
to
give
a
shout
out
to
our
dear
Jessica,
because
she
has
had
quite
a
week
this
week.
She
was
huge
in
the
commissioner's
dinner.
She
ran
a
poet
laureate
program
last
night
with
our
library,
commission
and
then
she's
here
with
us
tonight.
E
So
she's
had
a
fabulous
week
of
doing
great
things,
so
thank
you,
Jessica
I
would
like
to
let
you
know
that
council
did
extend
the
teleconference
meetings
with
now
through
December
15th,
so
our
December
meeting
will
be
just
like
this.
E
The
Creekside
Tot
Lot
open
to
the
public
the
week
of
October
17th
I,
think
most
of
you
will
remember
it
had
a
creek
theme
and
many
all-inclusive
play
options
so
that
totlot
is
now
open.
They
are,
however,
doing
some
Ada
path
work
next
week
before
Thanksgiving,
so
that
it's
all
up
to
Ada
standards
to
get
to
that
playground.
E
E
Also.
We
have
a
couple
of
events
coming
up
that,
hopefully
we'll
see
you
at
tree
lighting,
our
giant
Community
event
will
be
Friday,
December,
2nd
from
6
to
8
p.m,
at
Quinlan
community
center.
That
is
an
outdoor
event,
and
it
does
tend
to
be
somewhat
chilly,
so
bundle
up
if
you're
going
to
come
out
and
join
us.
E
Also,
we
have
a
couple
of
events
that
our
registration
required
events.
We
have
breakfast
with
Santa
Saturday,
December
3rd
from
8
30
to
11
30
at
Quinlan,
Community
Center.
That
event
is
almost
full
already
so
get
in
there,
quick.
If
you
would
like
to
go,
we
have
signing
Santa,
which
is
for
our
deaf
and
hard
of
hearing
children.
That
is
also
a
registered
event.
It's
on
Saturday
December,
10th
from
2
to
4
P.M
at
Quinlan,
Community
Center,
and
then
we
have
our
Santa
visits,
which
are
also
almost
full.
E
E
These
days,
it's
absolutely
adorable,
so
we're
we
have
just
so
you
guys
are
aware,
started
to
put
some
A-frames
out
at
our
bigger
parks
that
have
of
signs
about
some
of
our
events
and
stuff,
and
so
we're
excited
to
see
that
most
of
these
are
full
jollyman's,
one
of
them
creekside's,
one
of
them
a
lot
of
our
bigger
walkable,
Parks,
and
so
we're
gonna
start
doing
some
marketing
in
that
way
of
our
programs,
so
just
kind
of
a
heads
up
there,
but
that's
it
for
me.
L
Thank
you.
Well
all
these,
a
good
update
and
looking
forward
to
the
holiday
season
more
fun,
the
program
coming
yeah.
That
sounds
great.
No,
if
there's
no
other
comments
wow,
so
at
7,
42,
I
call
to
end
this
park
and
the
direct
meeting
of
Cupertino
city,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
yeah,
a
lot
of
contribution.
Thank
you.
Thanks.