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Coverage of the May 23, 2023 Cupertino Planning Commission Meeting.
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Here,
okay,
so
our
first
item
of
business
is
to
approve
the
April
25th
Planning
Commission
minutes.
If
you
can
all
take
a
look
at
those
minutes
and
someone
can
make
a
motion
to
approve
them.
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Okay,
we
are
Madam
city
clerk,
any
postponements,
all
right.
We
are
on
to
oral
Communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
commission
on
any
matter
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
That
is
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
get
three
minutes
and
in
most
cases,
state
law
will
prohibit
the
commission
for
making
any
decisions
with
respect
to
a
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
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Planning
Commission
hi,
I'm,
Jennifer
Griffin,
something
I
want
to
talk
about
today,
which
actually
just
came
up
was,
as
you
all
know,
San
Jose
is
proposing
to
put
a
another
Costco
at
the
Westgate
West
Shopping
Center
at
Lawrence
and
oh
my
God.
What
road
is
that
Prospect,
I
guess
just
down
a
couple
of
blocks
from
this
project
and
I
was
over
there
today
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
parking
issue.
As
you
all
know,
we,
like
you,
know
I
almost
called
it
gemco
boy
that
goes
back
to
Cupertino
Costco
very
much.
F
We
have
membership,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
this
is
an
appropriate
place
for
Costco.
We
have
one
down
Lawrence,
there's
one
by
the
airport.
There's
many
in
this
area.
I,
certainly
don't
I
have
shopped
at
Westgate
West
for
many
years
and
as
I
understand,
there
are
three
owners
of
this
property.
It's
kind
of
constrained
back
there
as
you
go
into
the
Sprouts
I,
think
you
get
into
the
back
area,
which
is
another
owner.
And
yes,
this
is
West
San
Jose,
but
I
shop.
F
There
I
have
shopped
there
since
I
moved
into
Cupertino
area
when
it
was
in
the
county
in
the
80s,
and
it's
just
a
run-up
Lawrence
for
me,
but
I'm
I'm
concerned,
because
it
sounds
like
they're
going
to
close
the
middle
building
in
the
Westgate
West
close
to
Lawrence,
and
that
is
taking
out
a
PAMF,
Setter
fist
medical
facility.
F
It's
also
taking
out
the
FedEx
and
I
think
it
was
a
ballet
studio,
I'm
really
concerned,
because
it's
the
second
time
that
we've
lost
small
businesses.
You
all
may
remember
Schroeder's
haircut
stuff
when,
when
that
owner
bought
the
property
I
think
eight
years
ago
there
were
five
businesses
that
were
forced
out,
we're
losing
I
mean
losing
a
Sutter
PAMF
medical
facility.
There
that's
to
put
in
a
Costco.
What
rationale
is
that
we're
also
losing
the
other
grocery
store?
That's
next
to
the
that
I,
don't
know!
There's
one!
F
My
husband
loves,
that's
right
down
there
by
the
around
at
the
corner
and
then
I'm
also
concerned
that
the
parking
overflow
is
going
to
slap
over
into
the
other
property.
It's
going
to
go
into
the
neighborhood
behind
there,
which
is
on
Graves
Avenue,
which
believe
it
or
not.
The
graves
family
from
the
other
side
of
Saratoga
owned
this
property
in
the
1860s
and
we're
going
to
have
spillover
parking
into
the
other
part
of
Westgate
West,
which
is
where
the
beauty
I
go
to
that
beauty
salon.
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I'm
sorry
I
didn't
really
intend
to
speak.
I
do
support
this
project,
but
the
this
was
muted
at
the
beginning,
so
we
lost
about
five
minutes.
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Good
evening,
chairman
Scharf
planning,
Commissioners
and
staff
I
want
to
talk
about
Valco.
The
residents
are
pleased.
The
contaminated
soil
at
the
site,
west
of
wolf,
is
going
to
be
removed,
but
we
are
all
concerned
about
how
that's
going
to
happen
and
who
is
going
to
monitor
it.
I
was
I'm
requesting
a
couple
things
one.
H
I
think
it
would
reassure
people
that
the
contamination
is
actually
going
to
be
addressed
and
addressed
properly.
Thank
you.
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Okay,
thank
you
Peggy,
so
City
attorney,
who
would
be
appropriate
to
have
a
study
session
like
that
on
the
proper
disposal
of
the
contaminated
soil,
is
that
city,
council
or
Planning
Commission
or
city
manager.
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Oh
hello,
hi.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Sarah
for
putting
your
Planning
Commission
stuff,
hi
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
California
office
of
traffic
safety,
Calo
TS,
and
also
the
California
Department
of
Transportation
Caltrans
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
remind
all
residents
of
the
importance
of
go
safely.
California
the
education
program
from
calotias
and
Caltrans
that
promote
a
safety
culture
where
everyone
can
quote
go
safely.
End
quote
following
the
safety
rules
of
the
road
can
save
lives
for
all
drivers,
bicyclists
and
pedestrians
and
I
just
have
three
brief
statistics
to
share.
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First,
one
10
of
all
drivers
under
the
age
of
20
were
involved
in
fatal
crashes
and
were
reported
as
distracted
at
the
time
of
the
crash.
Two
pedestrian
fatalities
accounts
for
nearly
25
percent,
one
quarter
of
all
roadway
deaths
in
California
and
the
last
statistic
no
state
has
more
pedestrian
deaths
on
its
roadways
than
California,
and
more
information
is
available
on
gosafely.ea.org,
it's
available
in
English
and
Spanish
friendly
as
well,
and
what
I
share
more
to
share
more
more
details?
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Hit
a
very,
very
brief
comment
at
the
time
when
this
item
was
agendized,
I
did
receive
a
notification
from
the
staff
looking
at
the
proximity
of
my
home
to
the
proposed
project
I'm
actually
right,
the
state
of
California
has
laws
about
conflict
of
interest
at
a
distance
of
500
feet
or
less
you're
presumed
to
have
a
conflict
of
interest.
It
would
not
participate
at
greater
than
a
thousand
feet,
you're
presumed
not
to
have
a
conflict
of
interest.
J
I
happen
to
live
in
the
area
between
500
and
1000,
at
about
960
feet
from
the
edge
of
the
property.
I
contacted
the
fppc
for
informal
advice
on
the
previous
findings
that
they
had
had
in
these
cases,
and
it
didn't
appear
that
I
have
a
a
conflict
for
a
number
of
reasons.
For
that
reason,
I
am
not
repeating
myself
on
this
for
not
to
participate
in
the
hearing
tonight.
A
Okay,
great
thank
you
for
telling
us
that
okay,
I
guess
we're
ready
for
the
staff
report.
Thank.
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Yeah
I
think
I'm
also
the
third
Planner
on
this
project
as
well
too,
but
you
know,
but
thank
you
Pew
for
the
for
the
great
introduction
again
I'm
John
martir,
a
senior
planner
with
the
Community
Development
Department
Plan
division,
specifically
I,
think
my
yeah.
The
presentation
is
up
and
again
not
to
reread
what
chair
sharp
had
had
written
already
or
read
already,
but
what
the
project
is
and
what
the
applications
are
again.
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Adoption
of
mitigation,
negative
debt
declaration,
as
well
as
a
variation
of
permits,
include
development,
permit
architectural
site
approval,
use,
permit
investing
tentative
map,
as
well
as
a
tree
removal
permit
project
location.
This
is
one
of
the
ones
that,
in
my
career,
has
seen
the
greatest
mix
of
uses
as
well
as
vicinity
to
multiple
jurisdictions.
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So
the
1655
South
De
Anza,
you
know
internally,
we
called
the
Coach
House
site
because
that's
the
most
well-known
business
on
the
property
and
how
we
talk
about
in
shorthand
yeah,
the
coach
outside
how's
that
going
so
this
has
been
a
shopping
center.
Probably,
since
the
1960s
I
believe
approx,
11
000
square
feet,
mostly
single
story,
although
there
is
a
rear
portion
that
it
does
have
a
second
story.
Mezzanine,
that's
adjacent
to
the
liquor,
store,
I
believe
the
the
sushi
restaurant
as
well.
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It
is
bordered
by
a
number
of
of
uses,
as
well
as
the
city
of
San
Jose
to
the
east
as
well.
The
city
of
Saratoga
to
the
South.
Some
of
those
uses
include
single
family
residential
on
the
western
edge
as
well
as
office
uses,
which
include
the
cities.
The
West
Valley
Sheriff's
Station
to
the
north,
to
the
east
in
San.
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That's
one
of
the
few
remaining
four
corners
that
have
used
to
have
the
you
know:
gas
station
Each
corner
at
one
time
in
the
general
plan
is
considered
the
south
Danza
special
area,
and
it
is
part
of
a
conceptual
Plan
called
the
South
Saratoga
seinville
Road
conceptual
zoning
plan,
which
I
think
dates
to
the
late
70s.
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Building
C
is
the
other
three-story
town
home
structure,
with
seven
residences.
So
until
you
have
23
Apartments
as
well
as
11
town
homes,
51
Aussie
on-site
true
replacements
for
the
51
protective
development
trees
were
posed
to
be
removed
or
located.
Let
me
look
excuse
me
for
that.
Let
me
just.
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And
the
best
antenna
Maps
has
said
the
Vive.
The
two
existing
properties
are
two
parcels
and
those
will
be
subdivided
into
12,
Parcels,
11
of
those
being
the
town
home
and
the
other
one
being
the
mixed-use
higher
density
apartment
complex.
So
here's
the
the
site
plan
with
just
showing
the
roof
so
just
give
an
idea.
What
building
is
what
so
again,
building
a
Building,
B
and
Building
C
decibels.
The
waiver
requests,
in
conformance
with
our
with
the
city's
Municipal
Code,
this
the
requirement
at
the
time
of
of
application
was
15.
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The
density
bonus
does
allow
for
again,
as
the
name
of
the
chapter
of
the
municipal
code
alludes
to
allows
for
higher
density
when,
when
calculating
the
higher
density,
the
applicant
has
to
choose
from
one
to
income
categories
and
income
levels
to
base
their
their
density
bonus
on.
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So
in
this
case,
the
greatest
return
is
through
the
very
low
income
level,
and
so,
as
they
have
12
percent
of
their
development
12
of
their
base
density
as
a
that's
very
low
income,
they
are
allowed
to
use
a
35
density
bonus
so
which
allows
them
nine
marker
rate
units,
in
addition
to
the
base
density
of
25,
the
total
is
34
units.
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So,
although
they
are
required
to
provide
15
BMR
with
the
extra
very
low
income
unit,
they
are
providing
a
total
of
20
BMR
units
on
site.
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So
there's
two
waivers
that
they're
requesting
and
both
of
them
are
for
building
a
the
general
plan
allows
in
this
special
area,
a
height
of
30
feet.
Building
a
has
a
couple
portions
of
that
building
that
go
above
the
30
feet,
so
the
roof
line
of
building
a
tops
out
of
approximately
38
feet
to
the
roof
Ridge,
while
in
the
middle
of
the
building
the
52
feet,
is
the
top
of
the
elevator
Tower.
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Typically,
the
general
plan,
not
typically,
but
the
general
plan
does
allow
mechanical
equipment
and
elevator
Towers
to
exceed
the
height
limit
as
long
as
they're
centrally
located,
but
because
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
have
General
access
for
a
common
open
space
on
the
roof.
Staff
has
found
to
to
include
this
as
a
as
part
of
the
the
the
waiver
request
for
elevator.
The
elevator
Tower
is
actually
not
exempt
from
the
height
standards
so
that
thus,
the
applicant
has
requested
this
waiver
for
the
elevator
tower
height,
so
this
is
Sunnyvale
Saratoga.
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Okay,
remember
similar
to
the
conceptual
plan
area,
does
require
an
average
of
50
feet.
Setback
from
the
face
of
curve
along
South
De,
Anza
Boulevard,
with
no
point
being
less
than
35
feet.
So
you
can.
So
if
you
have
a
point,
that's
that's
about
35
feet,
as
example.
Another
another
part
of
the
building
that
setback
would
have
to
be
greater
than
50
feet,
so
just
to
make
that
average
of
50
feet.
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So
one
of
the
waivers
requested
for
building
a
is
to
have
the
full
Frontage
of
the
building,
be
35
feet
from
face
of
Kirk,
so
using
a
rendering
as
an
example
of
how
they
have
they
met
the
standards
or
or
or
to
better
demonstrate
the
waivers
that
they're
requesting.
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We
further
have
38
feet
to
the
roof
line
and
if
you
can
see
it
in
the
background
right
here,
the
elevator
Tower
at
50
approximately
52
feet,
and
so,
where
would
30
feet
be
along
this
building?
So
proxy
right
here
would
be
30
feet
where
this
red
line
is.
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So
there
are
findings
required
for
dial
of
a
waiver
and
or
incentive
or
concession
there's,
no
just
as
a
reminder.
There's
no
incentive
reconcession
request
as
part
of
this
application,
just
a
waiver-
and
these
are
statutory-
that
the
waiver
and
center
of
concession
would
have
an
adverse
impact
on
Real
Property
lists
in
the
California
register.
L
Historic
resources,
which
this
is
not
that
the
waiver
and
center
of
a
concession,
would
have
a
specific
adverse
impact
upon
public
health
safety
or
the
physical
environment
and
there's
no
feasible
method
to
satisfactorily
mitigate
or
avoid
the
specific
adverse
impact
without
rendering
the
residential
project
unaffordable
to
low
and
moderate
income
households.
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As
part
of
this
project,
there
is
a
mitigated,
negative
declaration
with
mitigated
measures
which
we
can
talk
about
a
little
bit
further
comments
about
that.
We
do
have
place,
works
on
call
on
standby
right
now
on
Zoom
to
to
answer
any
questions
and
at
the
waiver
organizations,
contrary
to
the
state
or
federal
law.
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So
in
this
case
the
the
applicant
has
request
an
alternative
parking
standards
from
the
city's
Municipal
Code.
So,
as
there
are
two
different
types
of
of
residential
programming
on
the
side,
the
town
home
portion,
as
well
as
the
the
higher
density
apartment
rental
portion,
the
the
applicant
has
proposed
a
few
alternates
to
this
and
for
the
town
homes.
Typically
with
our
ordinance.
The
municipal
code
ordinance
is
2.8
parking
spaces
per
townhome
they're,
proposing
two
on
site,
which
is
consistent
with
our
density
bonus,
ordinance
and
with
our
Apartments.
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So
if
they
were
to
to
go
by
the
municipal
code,
they
would
need
about
107
spaces
throughout
the
development,
including
the
retail
portions,
which
they're
not
proposing
to
reduce
in
any
ways.
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What's
also
part
of
the
state's
mandate
for
alternate
parking
standards
that
they're
allowed
to
use
tandem
parking
spaces
as
well
as
reduce
or
no
limits
or
standards,
for
how
many
have
to
be
enclosed
or
not
enclosed
and
whatnot,
and
so
many
of
the
units
on
this
side,
including
I,
think
about
half
the
town
homes
and
about
five
or
six
of
the
spaces
in
the
podium
parking
are
also
tandem
to
remove
and
replacement,
replacing
Route
51
trees
with
51
trees
of
various
box
sizes.
L
None
of
the
trees
that
are
being
removed
are
actually
on
our
protective
species
list
per
the
for
chapter
14
of
our
Municipal
Code,
but
they
are
protected
just
because
they
have
been
development.
Trees
in
the
vast
majority
of
those
of
those
species
are
actually
Italian
cypresses.
That
and
many
of
those
are
along
the
western
property
line
adjacent
to
the
single-family
homes.
L
L
You
know
maintain
as
much
as
possible
those
mature
Italian
cypresses
along
the
western
property
line,
as
we
provide
the
ample
privacy
protection,
the
two
yards
of
enjoying
single-family
residences,
the
applicants
arborists,
as
well
as
the
Seas
consultant
arborist,
had
reviewed
the
you
know
the
grading
plans
and
whatnot,
and
their
feeling
was
that
the
grading
as
proposed
could
could
be
a
detriment
to
those
Italian
cypresses.
L
So
you
know
we
do
have
an
out
for
them.
You
know
if
case
there's
no
way
around
to
to
there's
no
avoidance
of
of
that
grading
on
that
side,
that
they
would
have
to
do
the
plantings
and
conformists
with
the
city's
privacy
protection
measures.
However,
you
know
the
preference
from
staff
and
I
think
you
know
probably
also
the
applicant
as
well
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
neighbors
is
to
keep
those
Italian
cypresses
if
they
can,
because
you
have
pretty
much
already
made.
L
You
know,
privacy
protection
measures
talked
about
the
vesting
tentative
map
already.
You
know
just
getting
those
two
Parcels
subdivided
into
12.
L
The
applicator
has
a
presentation
already
that
will
go
more
detailed
on
the
the
materials
proposed
on
the
side
and
the
the
specific
design,
but
just
to
kind
of
show
you
some
of
the
renderings
here's
a
view
from
South
deanza
Boulevard
of
building
a
the
mixed
use,
building
looking
Northwest
into
the
retail
portion,
as
well
as
the
the
front
of
this
of
building
a
here's,
a
view
again
kind
of
looking
at
the
same
perspective,
same
direction
Northwest,
but
along
Prospect,
Road
towards
the
town
homes
with
the
single
family,
residence
in
the
in
the
rear
right
here,
yeah
and
then
here's
a
view.
L
Looking
Northeast
almost
like
from
a
drone
looking
like
towards
from
the
rear
of
the
Town
Homes
into
the
to
the
to
the
mixed-use
portion
as
well
across
South,
the
Anza
Boulevard
San
Jose.
As
you
can
see,
Italian
Cypress
is
right.
There
you
do
see
a
rear,
deck
or
balcony
area.
On
the
second
floor
of
the
Town
Homes,
the
third
floor
of
the
town
homes
have
transoms
over
the
the
bedrooms
of
on
those
typically
what
we
require
for
privacy
mitigation
in
a
single
story
or
I'm.
Sorry
on
two-story
development.
L
In
a
single
family
zone
is
you
know
those
being
five
feet
from
from
from
the
windowsill.
Thank
you
to
the
from
the
Finish
floor,
so
site
design
a
couple
things
to
point
out.
You
know
we
do
have
standards
within
our
general
plan
to
reduce
the
amount
of
driveways
with
new
developments
at
the
time
of
of
currently
there's
two
two
driveway
entrances
and
exits
along
the
South
along
Prospect
Road.
L
This
has
been
reduced
in
one
and
the
same
thing
along
South,
De,
Anza
Boulevard,
where
currently
there
are
two
driveway
entrances
and
exits.
This
has
also
been
reduced
to
one
as
well
one
of
the
things
we
also
one
of
the
things
the
city
encourages,
both
through
the
general
plan,
as
well
as
through.
The
conceptual
plan
is
to
have
interconnectivity
between
the
parcels.
L
So
when
this
one
things
we
originally
require
requested
of,
the
album
was
to
was
to
have
an
easement
with
the
parcel
to
the
north.
Similarly,
when
we
asked
when,
when
the
city
required
the
parcel
to
the
north,
when
it
was
developed
in
the
mid
80s
to
provide
an
access
easement
when
this
site
was
was
redeveloped,
one
of
the
concerns
brought
up
during
the
the
ERC
meeting
in
October
was,
you
know.
L
Well,
how
will
this
affect
the
sheriff's
station
if
we
have
an
opening
directly
from
Prospect
Road
through
the
the
parking
lot
where
the
sheriff's
maintained
their
their
vehicles,
and
so
when
staff
reached
out
to
the
sheriff
it
was.
They
were
pretty
blunt
and
said
that
we
will
have
to
move.
You
know
there
was.
There
was
no.
L
They
were
not
too
pleased
with
having
an
access
from
directly
from
a
ride
away
into
the
parking
area
of
the
other
vehicle,
so
staff
is
recommending
for
lack
of
very
true
I'm
kicking
kicking
the
standard
down
the
road
as
a
condition
of
approval.
When
so,
have
the
have
this
developer
build
out
an
area,
a
driveway
ready
to
be
opened
up
in
the
event
that
we
can
require
the
northern
parcel
to
open
it
if
and
when
they
ever
decide
to
redevelop
it,
so
they
would
actually
have
the
easement
on
that
side.
L
L
What
the
findings
of
this
mnd
was
that
the
city
can
rely
on
the
adopted
Environmental
Protection
standards
in
chapter
17,
which
includes
you,
know,
demolition
standards
as
well
as
bird
safety
standards
and
whatnot.
Some
of
those
conditions
in
that
chapter
add
to
to
the
development
permit
resolution.
L
So
if
you
need
reference
to
that,
there
were
two
two
mitigation
measures
that
were
added
on
top
of
this
within
the
mnd
that
you
know,
placeworks
had
found
as
well.
Some
of
our
traffic
Consultants
too.
The
first
is
our
transportation,
so
the
VMT
or
vehicle
models
traveled
were
for
this
project
were
above
the
city's
thresholds
in
our
in
our
municipal
code,
mainly
due
to
the
fact
that
this
project
site
is
outside
of
a
half
mile
of
from
a
major
Transit
stop.
L
So
there
were
some
mitigation
measures
that
included
fair
share
contribution
for
bike
improvements
along
Prospect,
Road,
preparation
of
a
school
pool,
bicycle
car
share
program,
behavioral
intervention
programs,
as
well
as
as
well
as
an
electric
bike
program,
bike
program,
further
noise
level.
So
beyond
what
we
have
in
chapter
17,
some
mitigation
measures
include
construction.
Shell
compiled
the
noise
ordinance
as
well
as
best
management
practice
for
noise
mitigation,
ensure
mechanical
equipment.
It's
like
to
meet
the
Seas
noise
standards.
L
This
also
includes
a
certain
physical
barriers
during
during
ground
disturbing
activities
that
would
prevent
further
noise
going
into
single
family
neighborhoods
to
the
West.
L
This
project
falls
under
the
housing.
Accountability
act
as
two-thirds,
because
more
than
two-thirds
of
the
square
footage
is
dedicated
to
residential,
so
the
the
haa
limits
the
ability
of
a
seeds
in
an
iron
post
concerning
conditions
on
a
housing
development
project
when
the
project
complies
with
applicable
objectives,
General
plans,
zoning
subdivision
standards
and
criteria.
L
This
project
is
a
housing
development
project
under
haa
because
it,
as
stated
before
it
is
a
mixed
use.
Development
consisting
of
residential
and
non-residential
uses
with
at
least
two-thirds
of
square
footage
designated
for
residential
use
and
the
project
is
either
consistent
with
the
city's
objective
standards
or
has
applied
for
waivers
or
incentives
and
concessions
under
a
density
bonus
law.
L
L
At
least
the
to
better
memorialize,
excuse
me
to
better
memorialize
the
the
BMR
units
on
site
and
how
and
whatnot
so
our
recommendation
is
to
delete
condition
13
into
modify
condition,
7
to
read
the
following
and
what
you
see
underlined.
There
is
kind
of
the
add,
a
language
to
condition
number
seven
if
I
could
read
it
just
just
to
have
it
on
the
record
identity.
Bonus,
affordable
units
is
the
title
of
a
condition,
so
this
would
be
a
modify
again
modify
condition.
Seven.
L
The
important
part
is
here
the
prior
to
occupancy.
The
proposed
project
shall
record
covenants
that
require
the
units
to
be
occupied
at
those
income
levels
for
a
period
not
less
than
99
years.
From
the
day
of
first
occupancy
of
the
units,
conclusion
is
that
staff
recommends
approval
to
project
because
a
project
condition
approval
address,
concerns
related
to
the
proposed
development
and
all
the
findings.
The
approval
of
the
post
project
consistent
with
the
chapters
1418
1828,
1956,
19156
and
19168
of
the
CMC,
could
be
made
concerning
development's
height
setback
I'm.
L
Sorry,
it
should
be
front
step
back
waivers.
Evidence
in
the
records
demonstrated
that
the
project
met
the
standards
granting
waivers
under
the
state
density
bonus
law.
The
next
step
is
the
plan.
Commission's
recommendation
will
be
forwarded
to
city
council
versus
decision
on
the
project
which
is
10
will
be
scheduled
for
June
21st
2023..
A
Okay,
thank
you
before
the
applicant
presents.
Could
you
tell
us
why
this
is
not
subject
to
the
20
percent
BMR
for
for
sale,
housing.
L
A
So
I
thought
our
20
for
for
sale.
Housing
requirement
was
before
2020.
A
Very
good,
okay,
so,
and
was
it
10
then
for
for
rentals
or
what
it.
L
Was
15
rental
and
and
oh.
A
Okay,
so
the
24
for
sale
came
after
after
this
project.
Okay,
very
good!
So
does
the
applicant
have
a
presentation.
M
Good
evening,
members
of
the
commission
and
staff
thanks
for
hearing
us
this
evening,
just
wanted
to
kind
of
walk
you
guys,
through
a
little
bit
of
the
project,
from
sort
of
our
our
community
design
and
and
building
design,
standpoint
and
review
a
couple
of
the
key
points
of
both
the
program
of
the
building
and
the
process
that
we've
gone
through.
As
we've
heard,
it's
34
total
units,
23
apartments
and
11
Town
Homes.
M
The
distribution
of
the
below
market
rate
units
is
representative
of
the
mix
of
units
in
the
project
as
a
whole
and
distributed
throughout
the
project
across
the
multiple
floors
of
the
apartment
building,
as
well
as
one
of
the
town
homes
I'm
going
to
touch
on
the
transportation
mitigation
measures.
There
is
an
electric
bicycle
program
providing
elect
20
electric
bicycles
for
residence
use,
as
well
as
the
fair
share
contribution
for
the
planned
off-site
improvements
along
Prospect.
M
So
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
maintain
those
within
the
project
and
then
there
was
community
outreach
that
that
we
did-
and
that
was
probably
the
primary
concern
that
came
out
about
that
was
the
Privacy
across
that
Western
property
line,
which
we
heard
loud
and
clear,
and
we're
we're
happy
to
do
everything
that
we
can
can
I
Advance,
John,
myself
or
okay,
just
a
little
exploded
view
here
of
the
the
project
itself,
sort
of
pointing
out
the
approximately
7
400
square
feet
of
commercial
oriented
toward
De
Anza,
the
11
Town
Homes
along
the
western
property
Edge
two
floors
of
apartments
above
the
parking
and
Commercial
level
for
the
23
apartments,
one
in
the
very
it's
it's
11
units
per
floor
of
of
flats
and
then
in
the
very
lower
left-hand
corner
of
the
building.
M
M
Next
again,
thanks
kind
of
just
walking
through
some
of
the
views
that
you've
already
seen
and
a
few
extra
ones,
we've
also
added
in
a
before
image
in
the
lower
corner
of
the
slide.
This
is
the
the
main
view
along
along
De
Anza,
and
this
just
kind
of
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
the.
What
we
think
is
really
is
a
neat
mixed-use
project.
M
M
You
know
from
from
both
sides
of
the
project-
and
this
is
a
really
interesting
one,
because
it
presents
us
with
this
Urban
Edge
and
the
ability
to
you
know
actually
provide
the
commercial
open
space
at
the
street
Frontage,
which
is,
is
appropriate
for
some
sort
of
outdoor
seating,
depending
on
the
use
that
goes
into
the
retail,
but
providing
kind
of
a
welcome,
deeper
setback.
M
The
of
course
well
we'll
get
to
the
the
neighborhood
transition
next,
but
just
in
general
kind
of
a
a
warm
contemporary
architecture
trying
to
work
with
color
tones
and
materials
there
sort
of
a
warmer
stone
at
the
base,
some
kind
of
copper
accents
within
the
the
upper
portions
in
a
what's
a
perforated
metal,
as
kind
of
an
accent
material
that
we
weave
throughout
the
the
project
and
balconies
and
at
the
project
at
the
residential
portion
of
the
project
entry,
and
so
this
is
the
this-
is
the
sort
of
ground
level
view
of
this
and
next
slide.
M
Please
is
just
elevating
a
little
bit
above
that
looking
down
we've
seen
this
one
before,
but
it
highlights
a
little
bit
more,
the
the
depth
of
that
front
public
Plaza
and
how
it's
we
will
provide
some
short-term
bike
parking
there
for
commercial
uses.
We
don't
show
it
furnished
in
this
view
right
here,
but
that
would
be
the
intent.
Is
that
that's
what
that
Plaza
could
provide.
M
Panning
around
the
site
just
a
little
bit.
These
are
some
of
the
Interior
site
views.
This
is
you?
Can
you
can
make
out
just
a
little
bit
how
the
site
slopes
up
from
De
Anza?
So
this
provides
us
an
appropriate,
a
a
taller,
appropriate
floor
plate
for
the
retail
that
faces
De
Anza
as
the
site
grades
and
slopes
up
to
the
interior
of
the
site.
M
It
we
we
take
advantage
of
that
for
for
parking
without
having
to
actually
raise
the
building
to
a
higher
level
in
the
back
portion
of
the
site.
The
residence
Lobby
is
on
the
lower
left
portion
of
this
image.
M
It's
really
tucked
back
in
there
it's
to
maintain
sort
of
a
sense
of
privacy
and,
what's
otherwise
a
little
bit
more
of
a
public
Frontage
of
commercial
and
parking
and
to
have
it
feel
a
little
more
protected
from
the
from
the
parking
lot
itself
and
then
the
next
view
elevates
that
to
to
show
the
view
of
that
common
rooftop,
open
space
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
a
really
great
space.
I
think
those
we've
seen
in
our
projects
that
those
roof
decks
get
a
lot
of
use
and
I.
M
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
nice
one
that
we've
that
we've
done
here
next
panning
around
to
the
prospect
side
of
the
site,
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
highlight
the
first,
the
sort
of
first
most
obvious,
the
form
of
the
town
home
itself.
This
is
this
is
not
an
off-the-shelf
townhome
plan
that
we've
brought
in
here.
This
is
really
site-specific
design.
M
It's
to
work
within
the
setbacks
specific
to
this.
This
area,
as
well
as
you
know,
taking
taking
measures
to
to
do
the
best
we
can
to
ensure
privacy
across
the
property
line,
we've
oriented
front
doors
along
Prospect.
The
end
units
of
all
of
these
two
buildings,
be
in
Building
C,
have
front
doors
facing
to
the
ends
so
that
that
presents
a
front
door
along
Prospect
rather
than
a
blank
sidewall.
The
next
image
rotates
just
a
little
bit
around
and
and
shows
for
the
units
in
the
middle.
M
Those
are
what
we
call
front
loaded
Townhomes.
They
have
both
a
garage
door
and
a
front
door
facing
this
interior
alley
and
that
preserves
private
rear
yards
along
the
back
of
the
property
and
sort
of
a
like
for
like
scenario
rather
than
having
foot
traffic
along
the
property
line,
and
then
I
think
might
be.
M
The
last
slide
is
the
overhead
view,
and
we
saw
this
one
and
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
again
about
the
kind
of
the
the
stepping
of
the
Town
Homes,
the
location
of
the
open
space
for
for
those
Town
Homes
and
how
we've
done
what
we
can
to
you
know,
provided
that
that
we
could
keep
those
Italian,
cypresses
I,
think
we've
we've
kept
the
the
window
stepped
back,
we've
kept
the
window,
sills
High,
we,
you
know
again,
we've
kind
of
we've
worked
to
to
have
subtle,
compatible
tones,
nothing
bright
or
garish,
really
kind
of
Earth
Tones
things
that
we
think
are
are
pretty
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
I.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Now
we
will
go
to
public
comment
before
bringing
it
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
Madam
City
Clerk,
okay,
I
have
one
blue
card
from
a
resident.
Jennifer
Griffin
welcome
Jennifer,
and
do
we
have
anyone
on
Zoom?
Yes,.
A
F
You
Planet
commission,
and
that
was
a
very
nice
presentation,
I
appreciate
that
my
husband
moved
into
the
air
neighborhood
behind
this
project
when
he
was
three
years
old,
so
he
spent
his
entire
life
back
there.
The
family
home
is
back
there.
You
can
understand
that
when
you're
dealing
with
areas
that
are
where
people
grew
up
their
whole
family
history
is
there.
My
husband
used
to
play
in
the
creek
around
Blue
Hills
and
he
used
to
play
at
the
Seven
Springs
Ranch
property,
and
he
remembers
when
they
put
in
the
gigantic
sewer
lines.
F
He
could
stand
up
them
in
them
as
I
think
a
four
or
five-year-old,
so
it
is
on
the
edge
of
Saratoga
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
have
to
be
sensitive
to
other
cities.
Saratoga
is
very,
very
concerned
about
lower
elevations
and
I
will
be
blunt
here.
The
state
can
say
things,
but
they
are
in
Sacramento,
and
these
are
our
cities
and
our
towns
and
the
fight
will
be
born
out
at
the
local
level.
F
So,
I'm
glad
that
the
developer
has
seen
fit
to
understand
the
sensitivity
levels
when
you've
had
families
that
have
lived
there
for
over
60
to
70
years,
whatever
Sacramento
says,
does
not
determine
ultimately
what
goes
on
there.
There
will
be
pushback
if
Sacramento
came
in
there
and
said
we're
going
to
have
20
sturdy
buildings
that
will
block
the
views
of
the
Blue
Hills,
and
my
husband
often
talks
about
the
views
that
he
had
of
the
oak
trees
on
those
blue
hills,
and
he
would
make
up
stories
that
they
were
covered
wagons.
F
This
is
a
four
or
five-year-old,
so
we
are
messing
with
people's
Heritage,
so
I
understand
that
people
want
to
push
housing,
but
when,
when
the
metal
hits
the
road
here,
these
are
people's
lives
and
their
homes
and
where
their
parents
live.
So
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
the
developer
has
worked
out
a
project
that
appears
to
be
reducing
the
height,
making
sure
that
everything
that
is
Cupertino
and
Saratoga
and
West
San
Jose
is
respected.
There
are
two
Urban
Villages
here
in
San
Jose.
F
We
have
Prospect
Road
Urban
Village
in
West,
San
Jose,
and
we
have
South
De
Anza
Boulevard
in
San
Jose.
You
can
have
signature
projects
up
to
200
feet
high
in
those
Urban
Villages.
So
the
other
question
is:
what
are
the
schools?
My
husband
went
to
Monte
Vista,
High,
School
and
then
I'm
running
out
of
time,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
respect
all
setbacks.
A
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
three
more
in
person,
so
the
next
one
has
no
name,
but
the
email
starts
with
an
L.
So
if
that
person
would
like
to
come
up.
A
N
Thanks
yeah
I
think
I,
don't
know
whether
we
can
go
back
to
slides,
but
we
we,
after
reading
figures,
I.
We
have
strong
like
concerns
about
the
roof
deck
in
the
second
floor
and
so
I'm
not
sure
whether
we
can
go
back
to
the
figures.
Pictures
for
that
floor
plan,
nothing.
N
Yeah
go
back
to
the
yeah
yeah
this
one
so
and
maybe
yeah.
If
you
look
at
this
view
like
this,
is
only
a
little
bit
fit
between
the
your
chart
between
the
backyards
and
then
it's
on
the
second
floor
and
also
for
normally,
if
you
have
a
like
labors
of
railing,
so
ever
since
it's
pretty
far
away
instead
of
like
this
is
a
very
small
yard,
so
it's
very
close
and
also
like
for
our
home.
We
have
I
think
three
to
four
labels
per
house.
N
So
basically,
if
my
case
is
playing
in
the
backyard,
they
are
full
house
five
house.
In
the
second
floor
they
can
view
you
and
also
If
Everyone
likes
Cupertino,
like
cyber
areas
weathers.
The
extension
is
every
day
every
weekend
people
will
sit
on
the
second
floor
and
we
ask
so
I
think
that's
actually.
My
major
concern
here
is
the
second
floor
of
the
roof.
These
deck
areas.
N
Do
we
actually
need
that,
given
that
you
already
have
the
backyards
and
people
that
they
can
enjoy
everything
in
the
backyards
and
so
I
think
that's
the
first
one
first.
The
major
concern.
Second,
concern
is
the
the
Italian
surface
and
I
think
not
every
it's
not
guaranteed
very
strong,
like
100
I.
Think
it's
about
70
60
70
written
in
there
are
multiple
gaps
in
different
cypress
trees,
and
also
we
have
some
neighbors
that
don't
have
even
have
a
Italian
service
in
the
backyard
yeah.
So
this,
like
privacy,
I,
think
it's
our
it's.
A
O
Hey
I
think
yeah
another
single
family
owner
to
the
other
side
of
the
downtown
house.
I
also
have
some
concern
regarding
the
prices
we
have
So
based
on
the
accountable,
so
our
backyard
we're
going
to
share
the
same
things
with
the
Town
Halls
on
the
on
the
other
side
and
also
based
on
the
countries
we
have
the
people
from
the
townhouse.
You
can
see
our
backyard
very
clearly
from
the
second
floor
and
I
I
have
a
six
months
of
the
baby
and
I
always
like
that.
O
I'm
gonna
play
with
him
a
lot
in
the
backyard
in
the
future,
so
I'm
doing
like
what
we
can
do
to
have
our
purposes
better
protected
thanks.
A
Okay,
thank
you
next
is
anut
is
a
newt
here,
did
I
pronounce
that
right?
B
Yeah
yeah
again,
just
like
the
folks
that
preceded
me,
I
also
live
on
the
western
edge
of
the
property
on
Jamestown
Drive,
mostly
like
to
Echo
the
same
concerns.
Just
adding
you
know
the
again
with
the
deck
concerns
around
the
Privacy.
I
do
have
some
cypress
trees
on
the
back
between,
but
they
at
best
provide,
maybe
50
60
privacy.
So
there
is
still
some
concern
there,
especially
again
with
the
proximity.
I
believe
it's
the
deck
would
be
as
close
as
15
feet
from
the
property
friends.
B
So
that's
really
again
going
back
to
similar
concerns.
I
have
some
young
kids
as
well
so
continuing
to
maintain
the
Privacy,
no
General
issues
around
having
a
development
as
such,
but
you
know
whatever
can
be
done
to
help
mitigate
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Next,
we
have
Ting
cow,
welcome,
ting.
P
Again,
but
these
are
my
neighbors,
we
have
a
couple
of
concerns.
Privacy
I
think
you've
heard
over
and
over
again
the
Italian
cypress
trees.
They
are
not
in
my
backyard
they're
only
in
half
of
my
backyard,
so
actually
half
of
my
backyard
is
not
covered
by
the
Italian
cypress
trees.
P
I
also
hear
that
they
might
not
survive
potentially
and
I
like
to
know
whose
responsibility
is
it
to
actually
make
sure
that
when
the
development
is
done,
if
the
Italian
cypruses
are
not
doing
well,
whose
responsibility
is
it
to
actually
guarantee
our
privacy
again,
we
are
concerned
about
second
stories
looking
directly
into
our
second
stories,
given
that
it's
really
the
backyard
is
only
10
to
15
feet,
it's
very
it's
very
close,
so
you're
here
over
and
over,
we
lose
I,
think
we're
losing
quite
a
bit
of
our
privacy.
P
It's
okay
as
long
as
we
unders
as
long
as
there
is
a
mitigation
plan
that
we're
happy
with,
but
right
now,
if
the
only
mitigation
plan
that
you're
talking
about
is
or
will
keep
the
Italian
cypress
tree,
I'll
tell
you
right
now:
I
don't
have
them
like
half
of
my
backyard.
Does
not
have
the
Italian
Cypress
streets,
they
have
some
really
low
pine
trees,
that's
just
not
there.
P
We
are
also
concerned
about
construction,
noise
and
construction
debris
and
construction
air
quality.
My
neighbors
all
have
very
young
children.
We
expect
that
everybody
spends
time
in
their
backyard.
I
understand
this
is
going
to
be
a
reasonably
large
construction.
Therefore,
it's
going
to
take
quite
some
time
and
it
will
be
a
huge
concern
of
ours
if
there
is
no
additional
medications
in
terms
of
construction,
noise
and
construction,
air
quality
and
construction
debris.
P
That
would
be
a
huge
concern
for
us.
I
think
we
are
we've.
We've
written
to
the
city
in
terms
of
email,
we
documented
all
our
concerns.
I
have
sent
images
or
photos
of
the
Italian
cypress
trees,
that's
in
my
backyard,
showing
that
only
half
of
them
is
covered
and
I
have
not
heard
back
concretely
in
terms
of
what
is
to
be
done.
Q
Good
evening,
another
neighbor
in
back
and
I
share
the
same
privacy
concerns,
although
let
me
say
at
the
start
that
I
do
support
the
project.
In
general,
I
mean
we
need
more
houses,
one
I'm
not
going
to
go.
You
know,
reiterate,
I'm,
not
going
to
repeat
what
everybody
else
said,
but
I
would
like
to
bring
up
a
related
privacy
concern,
which
is
light,
I
mean
in
the
past.
The
Coach
House
has
at
times
had
lights
shining
in
our
backyard
recently.
They
they
fixed.
Q
A
Okay,
thank
you,
Adam
city
clerk
for
the
zoom.
Yes,.
R
R
All
right
so,
as
usual,
I
haven't
gotten
all
my
ideas
together.
I
do
recall
seeing
this
project
in
the
past
and
my
concerns
of
the
the
past
are
still
here,
I'm
glad
to
see
some
of
the
neighbors
participating
this
time
they
didn't
last
time.
Maybe
they
didn't
know
about
it.
So
I
do
share
their
concerns
regarding
privacy,
both
from
the
backyards
and
also
from
the
decks,
and
also
the
impact
on
neighbors
for
solar.
R
Other
concerns
regarding
neighbors
are
testing
for
HazMat
I.
Don't
think
that
they
were
doing
the
entire
all
of
the
potential
Hazmat.
It
seemed
like
it
was
a
minimal
list
and
it's
very
going
to
be
very
important
to
check
for
residential
screening
levels.
R
Another
thing
that's
a
little
strange
about
are
the
our
laws
are
that,
although
it
they
are
required
to
test
for
asbestos,
so
that
any
asbestos
is
mitigated
prior
to
deconstruction,
that
is
not
the
case
for
lead
testing,
and
it
would
be
very
bad
if
there
was
any
lead
in
the
buildings
and
the
paint
and
having
that
dust
get
on
the
neighbors
with
small
children.
R
R
What
is
being
done
for
mitigations
for
open
space
for
Park
I,
certainly
hope
that
the
rooftop
is
not
a
mitigation
for
ground
level
park
space
we
do
need
to
have
some
a
little
open
space
and
plants
and
the
other
one
would
be
public
art
and
what?
Where
would
any
public
art
go
for
this
project
and
I
think
that's
about
all
the
scribbles
I
had.
Let
me
just
see
if
I
have
anything
else,
I
think
that's
about
it.
So
I.
R
A
Thank
you.
Rhoda
next
is
Peggy
Peggy
Griffin
welcome.
H
Good
evening,
chairman,
sharp
council
members
and
staff
I
want
to
thank
John
for
meeting
with
me
and
answering
a
lot
of
my
questions.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
staff
and
the
developer
for
abiding
by
the
BMR
guidelines
for
BMR
unit
dispersal
and
comparability.
H
That
has
been
an
issue
with
many
developers,
and
it
was
a
refreshing
change
to
see
one
that
actually
did
it.
So
thank
you.
My
concern,
I
I
Echo
wrote
a
Fry's
concern
about
residential
levels.
H
I
was
pleased
to
see
that
there
was
advanced
soil
testing,
because
my
concern
was
that
a
gas
station
garage
is
next
door
and
someone
Gian
said
it
was
like
a
gas
station
corner
with
multiple
gas
stations
in
the
area
so
I'm,
assuming
because
it
went
through
the
ERC
and
kitty
Moore
that
it
was
looked
at
very
closely
unfortunate,
I'm
sad
that
we
don't
have
that
anymore,
but
I'm
concerned
that
if
it
wasn't
done
with
residential
levels
in
mind,
it
needs
to
be
fire
I'm
concerned
about
the
north
side.
A
S
T
A
T
I
was
going
to
ask
a
couple
of
requests.
Firstly,
maybe
this
is
for
the
future,
but
if
staff
can
speak
slowly
for
the
benefit
of
citizens
that
are
following
along
and
are
not
as
well
worth
the
stuff
or
with
the
with
the
terminology
and
the
language,
it
is
rather
hard
to
follow
staff
and
they
get
to
the
material.
T
I
understand
they're
highly
familiar
with
it
and
trying
to
get
through
it
with
it
at
a
fast
pace,
but
poor
residents
that
have
taken
the
time
to
attend,
appreciate
staff
slowing
down
so
that
we
may
follow
along
and
understand,
especially
as
I
as
I
heard.
A
number
of
speakers
that
are
attending
in
person
may
not
be
native
English
speakers,
so
it
was
really
hard
to
follow
along
when
staff
was
speaking.
It
is
a
request
to
the
chair
to
please
slow
staff
down
if
they're
speaking,
at
a
pace
that
is
hard
to
follow.
T
Coming
to
the
project
itself.
I
would
like
to
understand
how
the
project
brought
to
feedback
from
the
neighbors
seems
like
several
neighbors
are
here
today,
speaking
in
person,
offering
feedback
and
does
not
seem
like
their
Outreach
in
the
past,
recorded
that
feedback.
T
So
I
would
like
to
see
if
the
chair
can
request
that
that
study
be
evaluated
to
see
how
neighbor's
feedback
was
not
accounted
for
and
is
not
on
the
record,
and
if
it
is
why
it
was
not
brought
up,
and
then
I
would
like
to
go
back
to
the
issue
that
was
raised
about
the
sheriff's
saying
they
would
have
to
move
if
their
access
was
was
impaired,
and
that
is
highly
highly.
T
Concerning
and
and
the
fact
that
we
are
creating
a
pathway
for
that
in
the
future
makes
me
even
more
concerned
because
that
might
come
up
and
that
might
require
the
sheriffs
to
move.
As
we
know,
we
have
had
significant
amount
of
crime
as
well
as
Road
Safety
incidents,
And
Timely
access
to
sheriffs
and
their
ability
to
have
timely
access
to
their
vehicles
in
the
parking
lot
is
a
utmost
importance
to
the
safety
of
property
law.
T
So
I'm
really
concerned
that
we
are
not
taking
input
from
the
sheriff's
inviting
by
that
and
giving
the
leeway
for
Access
rights
to
change
that
may
require
the
sheriffs
to
move
it.
We
don't
know
how
far
they
would
have
to
move
their
parking
structures
if
that
came
to
it,
so
I
would
request
that
we
abide
by
the
feedback
from
the
sheriff's
department
on
there
on
their
access
not
being
changed
for
for
their
parking
Vehicles.
T
Finally,
I
want
to
request
that
the
waivers
for
height
and
parking
and
setback
be
rejected
or
the
grounds
of
impairing
the
convenience
and
safety
and
health
of
the
resident
that
are
on
the
west
side
of
the
property.
The
height
is
nearly
double
if
you
account
for
the
full
height
of
the
structure,
and
we
now
have
opportunities
to
see
what
these
Heights
actually
look.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
That
concludes
public
comments.
We'll
close
public
comment.
Perhaps
the
staff
could
answer
some
of
the
residence
questions
about
tying.
The
parking
lots
together.
I
mean
I,
see
along
De
Anza.
A
lot
of
the
businesses
are
preventing
that
where
it
used
to
be
possible
now
they're
ensuring
that
people
can't
drive
through
because
it's
almost
created
another
Street
back
there,
but
as
I
understand
it,
we're
not
going
to
open.
That
up.
Is
that
true
yeah.
L
J
A
S
List,
thank
you
all
the
neighbor
for
their
comments
and
I
think
there's
some
confusion
about
those
three.
Since
the
start
we're
we
are
proposing
to
plan
more
tree
than
it's
there
right
now
and
we're
keeping
the
existing
tree
and
trying
to
feel
the
void
of
what's
not
being
able
to
keep,
and
that
is
the
the
solution
to
that.
S
Screening
and
I
think
there
was
a
confusion
on
some
of
the
comment
about
the
tree
and
privacy,
wise
I,
think
we're
being
to
the
setback
to
the
back
of
the
property
15
feet
and
for
the
population
of
the
of
the
town
home
and
for
the
distant
is
similar
to
any
other
single
family
development
is
similar
to
any
other
neighborhood
that
respect
each
other
and
those
cypress
tree
will
get
at
least
two
level
high
right
now
and
the
new
Cyprus
will
catch
up
to
that
high
as
time
go
by
and
ask
for
the
noise
concern,
I
believe
the
contractor
or
whoever
they're
going
to
conduct
those
operations
in
terms
of
grading
noise.
S
S
We
have
superintendent
on
site
to
hear
any
kind
of
complaint
that
the
neighbor
might
have
and
we'll
post
the
phone
number
on
the
fence,
so
they
can
contact
us
directly
if
there
is
any
complaint
Outreach
to
the
neighbor,
we
did
Outreach
to
the
neighbor
300
feet
and
we
did
receive
some
of
those
comments
through
that
Outreach
and
that's
why
we
know
about
the
tree.
That's
why
we
want
to
obey
to
the
existing
tree
and
trying
to
keep
them
surviving
greatly
as
the
construction
goes.
S
S
On
the
other
flip
side,
there's
there's
coming
about
Net
Zero,
we're
we're
committed
to
Green
Building,
we're
using
all
the
energy
efficient
appliances
and
construction
process
to
provide
that
standard,
but
we
might
not
be
able
to
get
to
the
Green
Building
just
because
of
the
Net
Zero
calculation
method,
but
we
are
trying
to
achieve
that.
S
What
else
is
there
a
noise
appreciation
to
do
and
I
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
residents
to
be
supportive
of
this
project.
I
hope
everyone
will
understand.
This
will
transform
the
neighborhood
and
and
be
an
example
of
how
we
can
actually
do
something
in
Cupertino
appreciate
your
time.
S
Rooftop
count,
and
also
the
the
corridor
in
between
the
town
home
can
as
well
so
we're
working
with
that's
why
we
also
needed
that
deck
to
be
a
private,
open
space.
I
think
that
answer
I
need
my
architect
to
to
chime
in
on
that
calculation,
so
we're
calculating
both
a
private
and
public
park.
Space.
S
A
L
U
Yeah,
so
on
the
up
the
tall
building,
building
a
yes
only
one
off
of
the
top
is,
you
know,
shown,
as
you
know,
with
trees,
and
you
know
and
sittings,
not
the
second
half
any
reason
for.
U
S
S
So
the
tree
covering
is
where
the
open
space,
the
garden
is
and
some
of
the
other
area
it
would
be
utility.
It
would
be
your
AC
unit
or
or
some
other
mechanical
item.
That's
gonna
go
there.
So
that's
why
the
trees
surrounding
where
the
human
interaction
is
going
to
be,
and
that's
where
the
green
element
was
designed.
Yeah.
U
L
So
so,
just
just
to
clarify
the
parking
is
podium.
It's
underneath
the
underneath.
U
The
front
half
of
the
ground
floor
is,
you
know,
retail,
and
you
know
the
back
off
of
the
ground
floor.
Is
the
parking
structure,
correct
and
the
homes
are
about
right,
correct,
right
and
and
if
you
look
at
this
diagram,
you
know
where
you
have
the
arrows
pointing
you
know
that
structure
looks
unawakened
and
it
looks
more,
like
you
know,
a
open
parking
structure.
U
O
U
M
V
A
Okay,
John
repeat:
what
is
the
requirement
for
the
State
of
California
for
solar?
That
only
applies
to
single
family
homes
or
I
thought
all
new
construction
required
solar,
but
it
may
only
be
single
family.
L
K
Here
there
there
are
different
requirements
for
different
building
types,
I
believe
there
are
some
requirements
about
being
solar,
ready
and,
and
so,
while
I
don't
necessarily
know
what
exactly
the
requirements
are
for
this
particular
project,
but
they
will
have
to
meet
the
our
Green
Building
Code
and
they
will
have
to
meet
the
building
code
in
general,
cool.
E
S
A
Okay
and
I
didn't
think
that,
because
the
solar
panels
usually
face
either
south
or
west
I
didn't
think
that
this
would
impact
the
neighbors
that
are
the
neighbors
that
are
to
the
West,
because
their
panels
would
be
facing.
You
know,
towards
the
hills
or
towards
the
South,
but
I
think
we
do
have
some
rule
about
new
buildings,
impacting
existing
solar
production
on
other
buildings
is
that
is
that
true.
A
Thought
it
was
a
state
law,
actually
not
city
law,
the
City.
J
J
K
Don't
think
it
has
to
do
necessarily
with
structures,
because
the
state
is
allowing
structures
to
rebuild
at
four
feet
for
the
most
part,
with
this
forfeit
setback
in
general,
but
whatever
the
city's
requirements
are
for
Green
Building
and
whatever
the
m
d
requires.
You
know
if
that
is
part
of
the
analysis,
and
that
is
part
of
our
mitigation
measures.
We
will
ensure
that
those
are
implemented
before
the
building
permits
are
issued
for
this
project.
Okay,.
J
I
think
that
that
actually
may
have
been
I
remember
this
coming
up
before
your
planting
plan
could
be
something
that
needs
to
be
reviewed,
but
it
doesn't
impede
the
solar
energy.
So
you
know
if
somebody
I
don't
know.
If
somebody
had
a
existing
solar
installation
on
the
western
side,
it's
possible
that
that
might
be
something
you
need
to
do.
Accommodate
yeah.
A
J
A
Facing,
East:
okay,
where
that
were
those
all
the
questions
of
the
residents,
so
where,
in
the
plan
did
it
say,
the
applicant
was
going
to
add
more
trees
and
not
just
replace
the
51
that
were
being
removed,
I
didn't
see
where
they
said
they
would
add
more
cypress
trees
in
the
back.
It.
L
Species
that
was
consistent
with
our
privacy
mitigation
plan
along
the
on
the
west
side.
So
you
know
the
the
plan
set.
That's
attached
to
staff
report
doesn't
show
maintenance
of
the
of
the
Italian
cypresses.
That's
why
we
have
it
as
added
condition.
So
when
they
do
come
in
with
Billy
permits
that
you
know,
we
would
encourage
them
to
okay.
L
L
What
would
it
be
for
first
floor?
You
know
it's
typically
20
feet.
You
can
go
as
close
as
10
feet
with
the
minor
residential
permit
pending
that
there's
some
rear
yard
area
standards.
L
The
second
story
is
actually
more
restrictive
for
this
area
than
it
would
be
for
a
normal
single
story:
a
single
family
neighborhood.
So,
for
example,
the
Second
Story
setback
is,
in
this
case
30
feet,
whereas
in
a
normal
it
would
be
25
feet.
Four,
okay,.
A
You
also
have
that
you
know
same
privacy.
Concern
I,
think
you
know
the
issue
here
that
there's
been
nothing
there
for
so
many
years
that
there's
kind
of
an
expectation
of
privacy
sorry
go
ahead.
Sema.
E
Yeah,
so
I
just
have
a
question
on
the
the
trees
right,
because
I
just
want
to
understand.
Will
there
be
some
sort
of
enforcement
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
there
are
privacy
trees
planted
there?
That
fully
block
all
of
it?
Because
I
didn't
see
that
in
the
report
either
I
saw
51,
trees
will
be
replaced,
I
didn't
see
anything
about,
we
will
infill
where
there
are
gaps
or
we
will.
You
know
like
there
was
nothing
there.
L
So
it
was
probably
the
last
I
would
say
five
sheets
that
show
the
the
planting
plan,
with
with
certain
with
tree
replacement
types
and
and
whatnot,
but
to
your
to
your
point
about
enforcement
and
and
ensuring
that
these
trees
are
maintained,
we
typically
even
in
R1
zones,
require
a
covenant
to
be
placed
on
the
properties
that
would
that
would
State
the
the
type
of
trees
and
that
are
placed
or
whatnot
typically
removing
any
protect.
The
species
is
a
three
to
four
thousand
dollar
fine
per
tree.
L
L
The
first
step
typically-
and
this
is
consistent
with
our
chapter
17,
which
is
recently
adopted-
so
you
know
prior
to
demolition.
You
know
I,
think
properties
within
500
feet,
500
300
feet,
it's
of
the
project
site
are
notified
of
when
demolition
will
will
start
and
whatnot.
You
know,
although
we
cannot
send
out
building
permit
plans-
and
this
has
been
the
case
forever
because
of
copyright
issues.
You
know
we
are
open
to
speaking
with
with
residents
and
whatnot.
E
L
Yeah
I
mean
I
I.
The
first
step
is
these
types
of
hearings
right,
the
city,
council,
hearing
and
whatnot.
This
is
this
is
how
they,
how
they
know
their
rights
and
whatnot.
So
on
the
project
side
itself
is
you
know
the
the
they
are
required
to
have
contact
information
and
whatnot?
So
the
city's
very
old
I
mean
we're
very
open.
There's
a
formal
process
to
have
a
letter
sent
with
action.
Letters
or-
or
you
know,
you
know,
certificate
occupancy
letters
to
teach
neighbors
once
occupancy
begins.
L
U
Ahead
so
so
on
the
the
three
mitigation
plan,
the
preliminary
tree
mitigation
plan
on
the
diet,
the
diagram
that
staff
sent.
If
I
look
at
you
know
along
the
west
side
wall.
This
is
about
almost
you
know:
40
cypress,
trees
shown
if
you
count
all
the
bubbles,
so
I
don't
think
you
know
there
are
40
trees
today.
So
that
means
you
know.
Are
we
going
to
plant
that
many
like?
Does
each
bubble
no
count,
or
is
that
just
you
know
a
rough
pictorial
depiction.
L
J
K
A
difference
so
I
think
staff
has
added
a
condition.
If
you
look
at
the
draft
resolution
that
says
that
they
will
try
to
retain
the
cypress
trees
and
and
because
they're
removing
certain
other
trees
on
the
property
they
do
need
to
plant
Replacements,
so
they
would
fill
in
those
gaps.
However,
if
because
of
grading
issues
or
any
other
issues
during
construction,
some
or
all
of
these
cypress
trees
need
to
be
removed,
and
it
is
it's
not
possible
to
retain
them
because
they're
they
give
they
will
get
damaged.
A
S
So
we
do
have
a
slight
repair
for
this.
We're
proposing
to
have
the
eBay
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
next
to
the
mixed-use
building
on
the
outside.
The
second
option
will
build
a
structure
on
the
roof
to
store
part
of
the
bike
population
when
they're
not
in
use,
and
they
can
swap
out
as
the
residents
take
them
into
their
usage.
W
S
A
S
I
think,
as
the
age
HOA
will
have
to
hire
a
company
to
continue
to
maintain
and
upheld
the
operation
with
the
reasonable
lifespan
and
for
operation
wise.
Usually,
the
ebuy
will
come
with
an
app
program
that
allowed
resident
to
check
in
and
check
out
those
buys
and
I
think
long
term
wise
ho
will
have
to
take
a
lead
on.
A
A
L
L
We
also
have
Terry
McCracken
from
placeworks
right
here
if
Terry,
if
you
can
respond-
and
this
is
as
this
is
probably
I'm-
assuming
a
minor
change.
Do
you
see
this
as
being
an
issue
to
modify
this
mitigation
measure.
A
Okay
and
along
those
lines,
so
the
e-bikes
are
part
of
the
solution
to
meet
the
VMT.
So
what
happens?
If
how
is
the
VMT
monitoring
if
it's
not
met?
What
are
the
other
steps
that
get
taken,
so
the
VMT
is
met.
L
So
I
mean
this:
is
you
know
part
of
this?
This
e-bike
program
will
be
have
to
be
as
part
of
their
ccnrs
correct.
You
know
if
we
find
that
they
are
not
abiding
by
their
ccnrs.
There
are
issues
what
we've
done
in
the
past
too,
we
you
know,
withhold,
building
permits
from
being
issued.
You
know,
you
know
if
it's
not
life
and
safety
or
or
whatnot,
but
it's
it's
again.
It's
up
to
also
the
vigilance
of
the
residents
of
that
too.
A
L
X
I
can't
speak
to
the
the
Terry
mccrack
in
that
place.
Works
I
can't
speak
to
the
enforcement,
but
the
VTA
model
that
the
VMT
is
based
off
of
has
built-in
credits
that
you
can
apply
and
those
have
been
vetted
through
VTA
that
these
are
mechanisms
that
help
reduce
the
VMT,
and
so
we
chose
these
ones.
It's
not
just
I
mean
you've,
seen
the
mitigation
measure
trans1.
So
it's
not
just
the
bike
program.
There's
several
things
that
are
being
implemented.
A
E
Right
so
I
looked
at
the
the
VMT
impact
and
it's
22
percent
over
what
it's
supposed
to
be.
The
11.5
right,
which
is
pretty
significant,
I,
share
the
same
concern
as
sharesharf.
There
aren't
any
enforcement
measures
included
here
and
I
wonder
how
and
I
it's
it's
a
really
robust.
Looking
program
between
the
the
e-bike
loaner
program,
the
school
pool
program,
the
transportation
coordinator,
the
car
share
program,
subsidized
memberships.
E
That
all
sounds
great,
but
you
know
like,
for
example,
I,
look
at
Apple's
TDM
that
we
that
we
negotiated
with
them.
There
was
an
enforcement
mechanism
that
we
negotiated
with
them
to
have
a
third
party,
monitor
the
the
vmts
and
the
amount
of
reduction
that
they
were
able
to
meet,
and
then
there
was
a
penalty
if
they
weren't
able
to
meet
it
for
a
period
of
I,
think
it
was
like
five
or
ten
years
or
something
like
that.
E
Can
we
have
something
similar
here,
where
we
have
some
sort
of
third-party
monitoring
to
make
sure
that
they
are
meeting
that
VMT
reduction
goal
of
11.5?
And
if
not,
what?
What
are
our
options
like?
Do
we
have
penalties?
We
can
impose
like
how
do
we
monitor
this,
and
how
do
we
enforce
that?
To
make
sure
that
the
vmts
come
in
at
11.5
or
below.
A
K
If
I
may
chair.
K
When
the
VM
team
vta's
model
was
set
up,
they
they
had
a
menu
of
options
that
they
included
in
their
model,
from
which
you
can
choose
measures
to
reduce
your
VMT
and
those
reductions
were
based
in
studies
and
actual
research
that
was
done
to
indicate
how
much
reduction
you
get
from
each
mitigation
measure
and
those
were
scientific
papers
that
were
peer-reviewed
Etc
and
those
were
built
into
the
model,
and
my
understanding
is
that
these
mitigation
measures
are
picked
from
that.
It's
a
pick
list
essentially.
Y
K
Meet
the
enforcement
is
certainly
one
thing
you
know
can
we
put?
Can
we
strengthen
this
I
would
defer
that
to
Terry
and
her
expertise
on
this.
This
is
a
small
enough
project.
Where
you
know
enforcement
is
you
know
that
does
involve
a
lot
of
Staff
time
as
well,
and
you
know
resources
both
on
the
applicants
and
and
the
cities
and
potentially
but
again,
I
will
ask
Terry
to
maybe
comment.
E
Yes,
yes
right
but
I
mean
if
we
have
vmd
standards,
it
isn't
I
mean
what
is
the
point
of
having
standards
if
we
don't
enforce
them.
E
X
Yeah,
just
sanitary
again,
I
think
that
what
we
a
few
I,
think
what
we
can
do
is
in
the
mitigation
monitoring
report.
We
can
there
identify
the
frequency
of
monitoring
of
this
mitigation
if
the
sequel
does
require
monitoring
of
the
mitigation
and
we
get
to
choose
like
how
often
or
how
frequently
that
is
being
mitigated.
X
I
think
the
second
part
of
what
you're
asking
is
you
know
demons
you
need
to
demonstrate
that
the
measures
are
working
and
then,
if
there's
other
measures
that
you
then
pick
from
the
eta's
list,
that
part
I
think
we
have
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
maybe
adding
that
into
the
mitigation
measure,
but
I
think
the
solution.
You're.
Looking
for
right
now
for
monitoring
the
mitigation
measures
already
built
into
the
mmrp.
X
A
Okay,
let's
see.
S
S
You
have
to
take
the
residential
elevator
to
the
roof.
Okay,.
U
Okay,
so
this
is
for
staff,
so
so
I
understand
you
know.
15
dwelling
units
per
acre
is
the
current.
You
know
land
use
designation
for
that
site.
U
Did
we
assume
any
different
density
for
the
new
housing
element
conservation?
When
we
were
looking
at
this
location,
I.
U
U
So
so
this
this
project
is
going
under
the
existing
land
use
density
allocation,
so
the
parking
spaces
99
versus
you
know
107..
So
it's
my
understanding
that
you
know.
According
to
our
Municipal
Code,
we
need
107
spaces,
but
the
state
law
density
provisions
and
all
that
is
war
riding
it
to
allow
up
to
you
know
they.
They
are
needed
to
build.
You
know
98,
so
they're,
giving
99
so
one
more
than
what's
required
as
per
the
state
law,
but
our
Municipal
Court
requires
107..
Is
that
right?
That's
correct!
Okay!
U
So
to
me
you
know,
there's
just
a
mic,
a
comment
and
observation
retail
needs.
You
know
parking
spaces,
so
I
feel
bad
that
you
know
we
are
not.
You
know
doing
107
right,
I
would
hate
to
see.
You
know,
retail
software,
because
there
is
not
enough
parking
spaces
right
I.
Personally,
whenever
you
know
I
can't
park,
I
don't
go
to
the
shop
okay,
so
so
I'm
not
going
to
walk
to
the
shops
right
so
but
but
then
you
know
people
you
can't
change
the
people's
behavior
right.
U
So
if
they
can't
find
parking,
they
are
going
to.
You
know
suffocate
the
businesses,
so
that's
just
my
observation,
so
I
understand
the
height
waiver.
I
didn't
quite
understand
the
setback
waiver
because
you
know
the
sit
back.
You
said
you
know
it
could
be
from
35
to
you,
know
50,
so
they
do
have
35.
So
why
is
that
you
know
we
need
a
waiver.
L
U
Okay,
so
so
it
has
to
be
the
the
total
debt.
The
average
has
to
be
50
right,
the
some
parts
you
know
being
you
know
35
and
some
being
you
know,
70
and
whatnot,
but
then
this
one
has
an
35
period.
It's
just
5,
35,
okay,
okay
got
it.
Let's
see,
does
City.
Have
you
know
some
kind
of
you
know
architectural
and
design
guidelines?
You
know
for
that
entire.
You
know
segment
from
you
know
the
Yamaguchi
right.
U
So
all
the
way
up
to
you
know
the
prospect,
because
I
would
hate
to
see
you
know
each
of
these
developments.
You
know
come
up
at
different
times
and
look
totally
different
right.
I
would
like
to
see
you
know.
Some
kind
of
you
know
homogeneity
so
that
you
know,
even
though
they
are
all
worn
by
different
Property
Owners,
but
they
all
can
often
look
and
melt
together.
L
So
the
the
sorryville
certificate,
it's
changed
names
so
many
times,
Saratoga
Sunnyvale
wrote
a
conceptual
plan
only
contemplates
site
design
rather
than
building
design.
Okay,.
U
Let's
see
the
driveway
extension
that
we
talked
about
right
so
when
the
other
properties
that
get
developed
you
know
we
want
the
driveway
to
extend
so
can
we
put
some
condition
where
it's
kind
of
a
binding,
because
I
I
do
remember
seeing
a
conflict?
You
know
between
two
adjacent
properties
on
McLellan,
where
you
know
they
couldn't
come
to
an
agreement,
and
you
know
they
were
complaining
when
the
second
property
came
up
for
development
approval
and
we
ended
up
telling
them.
U
W
L
Conditioned
you
know
we
took
staff
took
the
because
of
the
issues
with
the
sheriff's
department
and
in
wanting
to
maintain
them
at
this
location,
if
possible,
we
decided
instead
of
requiring
at
this
time
we
require
a
date
to
be
determined
once
the
the
parts
of
the
north.
Now,
if
the
plan
commission
could
always
suggest
no,
we
want
it
done
now.
We
can
modify
that
condition
of
approval
required
to
be
done
now,
because,
because
the
the
process
of
the
north
also
has
that
same
condition,
yeah.
U
Yeah,
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
binding
on
both
sides,
and
so
it
doesn't
become
an
issue
later
on
when
that
property
gets
developed,
because
we
have
seen
it
on
McLellan,
where
you
know
there
was
condition
put
on
the
First
Development
and
the
second
development
came
up
and
they
needed
to
share
the
driveway
and
they
were
not.
They
were
not.
You
know,
cooperating
right.
U
Let's
see
yeah
the
privacy
trees,
please
make
sure
that
you
know
that's
Rock
Solid,
because
you
know
privacy
is
a
major
concern
for
a
lot
of
our
residents
and
you
know
and
every
development
that
we
approve,
including
the
birthday
brothers
and
few
others.
You
know
we
made
sure
that
you
know
there
are
privacy
trees
so
that
you
know
the
adjacent
in
a
single
family
homes.
You
know
don't
lose
privacy,
so
let's
make
sure
that
no
that's
Rock
Solid.
Okay,
thank
you.
Y
S
I
think
this
space
is
suited
for
like
serving
a
food
service,
type,
retail
type
or
any
kind
of
non-heavy
cooking
establishment.
I
would
say.
S
L
This
is
under
CG
if
I
get
out
of
that
about,
you
know.
Carlson
talked
about
cooking,
we
do
have
a
condition
about
order
payment
systems
on
the
roof
too.
You
know,
especially
as
so
so
adjacent
to
a
single
found
residential,
but
this
isn't.
B
A
Is
that
it
okay
yeah?
He
beat
me
to
it,
but
yeah
the
the
retail
I'm
really
concerned,
because
we
I've
been
making
a
list
of
six
mixed-use
projects
that
we've
had
in
Cupertino
and
on
none
of
those
six
has
the
mixed
use
worked
the
retail
either
there's
continuous
turnover
or
it
never
gets
leased
at
all.
Metropolitan
City,
Center,
travigna,
19800,
Biltmore
and
I.
Forget
the
name
of
the
one
on
the
corner
of
Stevens
Creek
Indiana,
where
there
was
a
restaurant
and
it
closed
years
ago,
and
they
can't
so
I
mean.
S
I
think
initially,
it
was
a
staff
request
to
retain
some
of
the
current
retail
in
the
initials
application,
and
we
found
that
it's
actually
makes
sense
for
the
residential
around
this
area
to
have
some
retail
retained
and
it
is
I
think,
with
a
couple
of
other
new
property
in
the
neighboring
location
opening
and
with
this
location,
open
and
with
actual
residential
to
supply
customer
to
those
retail,
they
might
have
a
higher
chance
of
survival.
I
would
say
right.
S
S
Would
be
pretty
good
to
continue
to
serve
and
and
when
I
say
non-happy
cooking
they
will
have
to
work
around
on
on
their
Hood,
an
oil
usage
and.
A
No
we're
not
going
to
put
that
in
okay,
okay,
I.
A
Today,
right
there
won't
be
enough
parking
for
them
so
back
to
a
serious
note.
So
for
the
rental
apartments
are
these
being
designed
so
they'd
be
possible
to
do
con
they'd
be
suitable
for
condo
conversions
in
the
future.
If
the
rental
market
does
not
improve.
S
A
S
And
it
would
be
fitted
if
the
market
is
open
up
for.
A
It
okay,
then,
if
it
and
it
if
they
were
converted
to
condos
I
guess
this
is
for
our
planning
staff
there'd
be
no
increase
in
the
BMR
percentage
right,
it
would
remain
at
15.
That's.
L
That's
that's
a
great
question.
You
know
we
do
have
a
condo
conversion
ordinance
in
our
zoning
in
our
zoning
ordinance
chapter
19..
It
makes
it
very
difficult
to
convert
from
rental
to
condominium
Condominiums.
There's,
there's
city-wide,
surveys
that
have
to
be
done,
based
on
rental,
occupancy
levels
and
whatnot
right.
A
K
A
Right
yeah
I
think
that
was
originally
rentals
and
then
they
changed
it
to
condos.
If
I
recall,
correctly
and
and
I
know,
Javier
was
also
approved
for
a
condo
conversion,
but
they
never
did
it.
Okay,
yeah
I,
guess
that's.
A
J
So
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
items
that
was
mentioned
was
Apple
privacy
protection
measures.
That's
a
common
part
of
the
boiler
plan,
I'm
just
curious.
If
we
could
be
if
you
could
kind
of
explain
what
that
what
that
would
be
yeah
how.
L
You
how
you
so.
L
Know
I
think
it's
Steph's
intention
not
think
what
it
is
staff's
intention
to
when
we
we
did
the
ordinance
in
the
tree.
The
tree
tree
removal
permit
resolution.
We
didn't
see
the
division
of
approval
to
maintain
those
Italian
cypruses,
those
existing
ones.
You
know
the
the
second
part
of
that
condition
was
to
abide
by
the
R1
standards
for
privacy
protection
which
which
details
certain
box
minimum
box
sizes,
planting
Heights,
as
well
as
distance
between
trees
of
those
plantings
as
well.
J
J
If
you
had
any
more
detail
on
that
was
there
what
was
the
concern
that
was
being
raised.
L
There
I
think
it
was
direct
Community
Access
by
right
into
the
into
the
parking
lot
where
they
have
the
patrol
Vehicles.
You
know
I
believe
that
they
they
believe
they
wouldn't
want.
My
understanding,
at
least
from
my
conversation
with
with
them,
is
they
want
some
separation
between
the
public,
right-of-way
and
public
access
to
their
patrol
vehicles,
and
this
would
give
them
the
public
buy
right.
You
know
access
into
the.
J
Rear
yeah
I
do
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
any
I,
don't
actually
have
an
an
issue
with
that
I
mean
I
felt
that
that
was
something
that
was
unusual
in
the
report.
J
You
know
if
I
were,
if
I
were
living
in
the
in
this
project,
you
know
perhaps
I
wouldn't
want
to
have
an
open
pathway.
You
know
to
the
jail,
so
you
know-
maybe
maybe
that's
maybe
that's
just
as
well
and
I.
Think
I
did
note
that
it
was
interesting.
The
discussion
about
solar,
solar
support
in
these
buildings,
I
I
did
I
was
thinking
about
that
ahead
of
time
and
I
did
notice.
The
plans
actually
showed
a
solar
area
on
all
the
units.
So
you
know
I
would
encourage.
J
I
would
encourage.
You
know,
although
I
think
Net
Zero
is
a
lot
to
to
reach
for
I.
Think
I
would
encourage
that
as
part
of
the
design
you
know,
I
don't
think
there
would
be
anybody
who
would
be
opposed
to
to
that
as
as
being
an
integral
part
of
the
design
and
I
guess
the
only
other
thing
I.
The
only
thing
I
had
to
comment.
J
Maybe
we'll
do
this
when
we
come
back
in
comments
as
opposed
to
the
this
section,
but
you
know
in
my
in
my
prior
term
here
you
know
we
had
a
lot
of
hearings
which
were
related
to
Dex,
and
you
know
Dex
and
privacy
concerns.
J
So
I
was
a
little
surprised
to
see
this
in
this
design.
I
think
it
is
a
plus
for
the
people
who
who
would
consider
living
there,
but
to
me
that
I
would
actually
probably
have
highlighted
that,
as
probably
the
most
controversial
thing
in
this
design.
J
So
you
know
I
think
it
seems
like
the
requirement
for
private
open
space
was
met
in
the
yards
without
without
the
need
of
having
that
space
and
I
realized
that,
from
a
from
a
planning
and
allocation
space
that
that
decks
are
kind
of
you
know,
a
upper
four
balcony
or
deck
is
a
kind
of
a
freebie
I've
mentioned
this
before
I.
Think,
that's
probably
something
that
as
a
city,
we
should
really
look
at
whether
we
want
to
treat
it
that
way.
J
If,
if
there
was,
if
it
were
treated,
not
as
a
you
know,
kind
of
100
percent
space,
that's
not
counted
toward
the
toward
the
square
feet
to
the
Limit
I
think
that
that
probably
would
have
been
a
that
would
be
beneficial
for
the
city
so
and
I
think
you
know,
and
so
in
some
respects
you
know
pulling
the
back
gate
back.
J
A
few
feet
probably
would
I
think
that
you'll
actually
I
suspect
whether
I
have
pittosporum
in
my
backyard
and
I
suspect
that,
whether
it's
pittosporum
or
or
Aspens
or
Whatever,
Whatever
Gets
chosen
here
that
I
suspect
that
that
should
address
the
issue
in
the
future.
But
I.
A
A
So
yeah
you
mentioned
when
we
come
back
to
comments
that
we
kind
of
been
doing
comments
all
along,
but
yeah.
We
can
officially
go
to
comments
now.
If
anyone
else
has
anything
more
go
ahead.
Sema.
E
S
Well,
that
area
would
be
for
repair
for
storage,
that
non-use
by
or
for
convenient
I
think
it's
a
flex
area
that
we
we
stored
out
to
allocate
it
from
the
retail
space
for
a
convenient
sake
in
terms
of
how
that
eBay
program
would
run.
We
anticipated
more
convenient
to
have
by
available
downstairs,
and
if
there
is
a
repair
need
that
room
would
be
a
good
place
to
repair
it
as
well.
Okay,.
E
W
E
So
I
would
prefer,
if
we
didn't
have
a
this
or
that
if
we
just
said
it'll
be
indoors
in
a
in
a
locked
and
you
know
secure
location
versus
having
the
will
do
this
or
that
right
and
then,
if
we
can
do
it
in
the
ground
floor
rather
than
Up
on
the
Roof
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
little
friction
I
because
you
have
to
get
on
the
elevator.
So
it's
not
a
huge
friction,
but
every
little
friction
makes
a
difference
right.
E
So
if
it's
on
the
same
level
as
the
parking,
if
we
can
use
that
room
that
you
had
allocated
but
to
put
the
storage
in
there
right
so
that
it's
easier
for
people
to
access
the
e-bikes
to
loan
them
out
from
there,
that
would
be
I
think
a
better
solution.
If
we
can
do
that,
okay,
the
the
VMT
mitigation
we
talked
about
so
I'd
like
to
really
understand
how
we're
going
to
do
monitoring
and
enforcement.
E
Somebody
had
mentioned
the
lights,
light
pollution
from
the
upstairs
units
shining
into
the
the
homes
behind
them.
So
even
with
the
trees.
Have
you
given
any
thought
to
that
to
not
allowing
any
kind
of
outdoor
bright
lights
on
the
second
floors
of
the
of
the
the
townhouses
that
shine
that
would
shine
down
like?
Are
there
any
kind
of
mitigation
there.
L
We
have
the
our
Dark
Sky
Bird,
safe
ordinance.
That
would
that's
intended
to
to
mitigate
those
issues
that
were
brought
up.
I've
made
the
Neighbors
in
yourself,
commissioner,
so
you
know
this
this
project,
it's
conditioned
to
meet
those
standards
as
well.
You
know
we're
both
burst
safe
in
the
dark
sky
downward
facing
lights
as
an
example
and
whatnot.
L
E
E
The
the
other
thing
is
yeah,
I
kind
of
want
to
reiterate
what
some
of
my
other
Commissioners
have
said.
Put
solar
in.
If
you
can
I
mean
I,
think
that
that's
such
a
low-hanging
fruit
in
a
way
I
mean
I,
think
it
would
be
a
really
great
solution,
and
it
would
be
a
really
great
example
to
set
for
other
buildings.
E
E
T
E
U
So
some
other
comments
you
know
I
would
like
to
re-emphasize
I
I,
prefer
you
know
the
e-bike,
storage
and
access.
You
know
at
the
ground
floor
not
in
on
the
rooftop,
because
you
know
any
friction.
You
know
we
need
to
remove
it,
but
I'm
going
out
there
and
you
know
how
to
choose
between
car
and
the
e-bike.
You
know
if
I
had
to
go
elevator
and
you
know
pick
up
the
bike
I'm
going
to
go
in
the
car
right.
So.
U
So
we
just
have
to
make
it
easy.
So
so
that's
one
and
please
consider
solar,
because
you
know
almost
all
the
new
homes
you
know
everywhere.
That's
getting
built,
you
know,
solar
is
default
and
I
would
like
to
see.
You
know
solar
on
these
buildings.
So
that
way
you
know
it's
it's
it's
neutral
and
I
really
appreciate.
You
know
you
guys,
you
know
working
with
the
neighbors
right
and
taking
their
consent.
So
that's
good
to
see
you
know
the
developers
and
working
with
neighbors.
U
Y
Nope
but
yeah
just
to
disclose
that
I
did
get
to
meet
with
the
developer
on
site
about
two
weeks
ago.
J
I
tried
I,
didn't
either
I
responded
to
an
email,
but
yes,
so
I
had
a
I.
Had
a
couple
other
comments,
if
that's
okay,
so
the
e-bike
thing
is
interesting.
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
on
that.
I
think
that
for
for
many
things,
the
greatest
benefit
of
so
so
this
is
actually
I
mean
I
had
a
prior
term
here
on
the
Planning
Commission
I.
Don't
remember
us
ever
having
one
of
these
before
who's
anybody
who's
chosen.
This
I
suspect
this
is
probably
it
is
a
little
bit
of
a
check
off.
J
You
know
to
me:
you
know,
to
to
meet
the
VMT.
You
know
to
address
the
VMT
issue.
I'll
bet
it's
the
most
expensive
one
too.
It's
it's
probably
a
lot
more
expensive
than
the
bus
passes
that
people
aren't
going
to
use.
So
you
know
it's
hard,
particularly
they're
you're,
a
long
way
from
a
bike,
a
long
way
from
a
bus
stop
but
I
think
the
greatest
benefit
is
actually
you
know.
Sorry,
I
worked
at
a
company
manufactures
electric
vehicles
and
one
of
the
things
that
really
is
the
Catalyst
for
for
more.
J
You
know
for,
for
these
things
becoming
more
popular
is
for
people
to
try
them,
and
so
I
think
this
is
actually
a
great
opportunity.
You
know
for
people
to
try
them
I
think
that
that
probably
is
the
greatest
the
greatest
opportunity
here.
You
know
that
there's
this
Fleet
of
these
bikes
here
and
the
people
will
try
them
and
try
to
go
places
and
hopefully
be
successful
at
that.
So
I
I
think
that
I
think
it's
a
good
thing.
J
I
actually
probably
would
not
I.
Don't
you
know
given
this
given
the
size
of
the
given
the
size
of
this
project,
I,
don't
think
that
you
know
additional
mitigation.
I
mean
what
you're
going
to
find
is
that
yeah,
maybe
they're
not
used
as
much
as
as
you'd
like
to
see
for
commutes
and
things
like
that,
but
you
know
I,
don't
know
that.
That's
really
really
high
in
value
that
the
program,
the
the
VMT
mitigation
program
and
monitoring
program
for
big
projects,
you
know
Google
in
North,
Bayshore
or
apple
here
in
Cupertino.
J
W
J
You
know
to
the
extent
that
they
can,
they
would
try
to
reduce
the
single.
You
know
single
driver
car
drives,
but
probably
would
just
pay
off
the
you
know
the
the
penalty.
J
There
was
a
comment
about
business
parking.
I
think
you
actually
this
this
proposal
is
exceeding
the
business
parking
requirement
from
the
city
by
one
spot.
So
you
know,
that's
I,
think
that's
good.
It
is
important.
I
mean
I
think
it
is
important.
J
J
I
would
I
would
think
a
little
bit
about
I
think
that
the
landscape
plan
would
come
back
for
refinement
when
it.
You
know,
as
the
project
is
going
along,
make
sure
that
there's
an
opportunity
in
particular
to
to
have
feedback
from
The
Neighbors
about
the
kinds
of
planning
and
the
intention
about
the
about.
What's
going
to
get
planted
there,
you
know
I,
think,
there's
I
think
there's
a
good
intent
here.
It
is
challenging
I
think
with
the
yards.
J
You
know
with
the
work
that'll
have
to
be
done
to
put
the
yards
in
for
the
townhouses.
You
know,
hopefully
that
won't
affect
the
Trees
Too
negatively,
I
think
fondly
the
other.
The
last
comment,
I
had
really
was
that
you
know
again.
Maybe
this
comes
back
a
little
to
the
VMT
discussion.
You
know:
I
I,
I,
I'm,
really
I'm,
a
big
supporter
of
making
sure
that
we
try
to
address.
J
You
know,
try
to
address
the
traffic
issues.
However,
in
this
particular
case,
I
think
that
the
benefit
of
the
additional
housing
units
greatly
outweighs.
You
know
the
the
kind
of
incremental
incremental
models.
It's
not
it's,
not
a
minor
thing,
but
that
it's
considerably
over
the
you
know
the
the
impact
study,
but
you
know
I
think
that
the
fact
that
you
were
able
to
you
know
bring
these
units
bring
these
bring
some
additional
units
and
and
actually
exceed
the
requirement
for
BMR.
J
Those
are
all
those
are
all
pluses,
so
I
would
actually
not
not
want
to
put
greater
restriction
on
with
regard
to
with
regard
to
the
VMT
offset.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
think
these
VMT
studies
do
not
take
into
account
the
large
percentage
of
work
from
home
that
we
have
now
so
I'm
wondering
you
know
they
may
actually
meet
it.
When
you
consider
that
it
seems
to
be
permanent
that
people
are
not
going
into
the
office,
you
know
every
day.
You
know
they
may
be
going
in
three
days
a
week,
but
yeah
it's
personally
I
liked
level
of
service
better
than
VMT,
but
this
is
this
is
what
we
have
so
anyone
else
before.
A
E
W
S
E
S
Adjusted
landscape
a
little
bit
to
to
fit
it
closer
to
the
front
of.
E
A
You
yeah,
you
know
if
you
look
outside
by
the
library
and
over
to
the
left
here,
we've
installed
secure
bike
parking
called
bike,
keep
which
you
use
with
your
smartphone.
So
when
you
have
that
well,
you
could
still
steal
pieces
of
the
bike,
but
you
couldn't
really
steal
the
whole
bike.
You've
got
three
at
least
three
cyclists
on
the
Planning
Commission.
So
that's
why
we
are
so
you.
A
S
Security
through
every
bike
parking
there
yeah
I,
understand
yeah.
A
So
John
at
the
beginning,
you
mentioned
the
changes
to
the
bmrs.
You
said
7
and
13..
A
Where
do
we?
Where
do
we
put
that
when
we're
doing
the
approvals
of
the
resolutions,
or
is
it
already
in
there.
L
L
Development,
okay,
so
that's
the
number
two
okay
and
then
any
other.
You
know
Pew
and
I've
been
feverishly,
taking
notes
on
on
comments
and
whatnot.
So
any
other
modifications
you
wanted
a
project
or
any
of
the
conditions
of
approval,
we'll
go
in
that
that
cover
the
plan.
Commission
cover
page
the
resolution,
as
well
as
either
an
added
condition
or
or
modify.
A
L
P
A
Okay
and
one
more
thing
on
bikes,
you
know,
because
you
know
the
the
Builder
is,
you
know
these
units
will
have
an
HOA.
It
really
needs
to
be
in
the
ccnr
of
the
HOA
that
it
requires
the
continued
provision
of
these
e-bikes.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
in
perpetuity
or
until
the
last
survivor
of
the
Queen
of
England.
You
know
like
they
did
in
or.
L
E
This
is
partly
why
I
was
asking
for
the
monitoring,
because
if
the
e-bike
program
doesn't
work,
it's
like
we
don't
want
to
necessarily
force
you
to
keep
it
for
perpetuity.
If
it's
not,
you
know
working
right
so
if,
if
they,
if
they
find
some
other
measure,
works
better,
like
you
know,
carpool
subsidies
or
you
know,
free
via
shuttle
tickets
for
everyone
every
month.
W
A
Yeah,
that's
a
good
point,
so
maybe
we
can
make
a
list
of
all
the
items
we
want
to
put
in
the
resolution.
So
yeah
I
I
can
keep
a
list
right.
So
I've
got
the
ul2849.
A
A
L
L
A
Happen
Okay,
so
I
have
three
things:
the
UL
approval,
the
security
bike,
storage
on
the
ground
floor,
the
business
bike
parking
in
front
of
the
units
in
front
of
shops
right
in
front
of
shops.
A
Does
the
VMT
monitoring
fall
into
that?
Are
we
even
allowed
to
do
the
VMT
monitoring
I
mean.
L
We
can
what
we
could
do.
Is
staff
can
work
with
placeworks
that
come
up
with
a
with
a
monitoring
program.
You
knew
I
know
that
one
of
the
Commissioners
I
I
think
it
was.
You
commission
Scott
brought
the
the
example
of
Apple
how
they
have
them
submit
a
yearly
report.
You
know
we
could
come
up
with
something
probably
similar
to
that.
You
know
maybe
scaled
down
for
what
you
know.
Apple
has
to
provide,
but
right.
A
A
A
L
L
So
the
ccnrs
have
to
reflect
the
conditions
attached
to
the
project,
so
I
think
this
specific
modification
will
go
in
our
EA,
our
mitigation
monitoring
program
and
any
revisions
of
that,
and
then
a
ccnr's
kid
could
be
worded
again,
I'm,
not
an
attorney
so
I
don't
know
the
best
way
to
do
it,
but
I
think
the
CC
Stars
would
have
to
to
mitigate
the
condition
of
approval,
which
and
also
the
mitigation
monitoring
program.
So
it
is
in
it
of
itself
would
be
flexible
as
it
is.
V
A
V
And
the
reason
you
have
that
list
is
because
VMT
is
really
new
and
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
work
yet
so
I
think
what
would
be
good
is
if
you
were
to
find
out
through
monitoring
that
the
e-bikes
aren't
doing
what
you
thought
they
you'd
hoped.
They
would
do
that.
You
then
select
something
else
off
of
that
list
to
have
an
alternate
approach
to
meet
the
end
goal
that
you
want
to
meet
and
that
hopefully
the
e-bikes
will,
but
if
they
don't,
we
already
have
this
list
established
to
go
back
to.
A
U
A
Are
we
allowed
to
mandate
solar,
Michael.
W
L
X
X
Yeah
and
I,
if
I
could,
while
I,
have
your
heavier
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
in
the
the
revised
mitigation
for
the
bike
program.
It
does
talk
about
having
a
survey
and
it's
only
good
for
five
years,
and
the
survey
is
gonna
to
test
the
efficiency
of
the
bike
program
if
anybody's
using
it
or
not
and
then
generate
like
what
structure
needs
to
be
changed
in
the
bike
program
based
on
its
success
or,
if
nobody's
using
it.
So
that's
the
last
bullet
of
the
mitigation
measure
for
the
bike
program.
X
Right
so
it
talks
about
running
for
five
years
and
then
doing
surveys
along
the
way
and
then
adjusting
it.
If
the
annual
e-bike
program
survey
generates
the
need
for
more
bikes,
then
they
may
buy
more
bikes.
It
doesn't
really
save
if
it
doesn't
work
what
they
will
do,
but
it
is
talking
about
really
I
think
it's
banking
on
it
will
be
successful.
Positive.
X
A
Okay,
yeah
and
as
David
pointed
out,
you
know
yes,
it
would
be
nice
to
meet
the
VMT,
but
providing
this
housing
is,
you
know,
probably
worth
a
little
extra
VMT.
If,
if
that
even
happens,
considering
all
this
was
set
up
before
work
from
home
became
a
thing.
A
X
I
think
the
way
that
we
have
treated
work
from
home
at
this
point
is
we
don't
have
any
evidence
we
only
it's
only.
Nobody
has
any
actual
data
collected
on
it,
and
so
we've
been
using
like
pre-covered
standards
and.
A
X
Switched
the
technical
reports
that
we're
doing
now
in
2023
Baseline
are
starting
to
collect
new
data
based
on
current
conditions,
but
this
technical
report
came
in
you
know
during
during
when
it
was
all
happening
right.
I
A
Right,
oh,
it's
no
longer
a
standard
because
I
think
they
use
that
for
what
what's
the
name
of
the
party
that
replaced
the
Oaks
Westport.
A
See:
okay,
all
right!
Anybody
else
before
we
move
to
start
the
resolutions.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Who
wants
to
start
the
motions
or
do
you
want
to
have
a
break?
First
we've
been
going
for
no
no
breaks,
okay,
Okay,
so
I'll
go
first
I,
don't
think
we
have
anything
extra
for
the
mnd.
Do
we
okay,
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
adopt
the
mitigated
negative
declaration,
ea2022-005
I'll.
W
A
K
A
I'm,
sorry,
oh,
so,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
back
that
up
your.
A
The
e-bikes
must
be
UL
2849
certified
the
e-bike
storage
should
be
secure
and
on
the
ground
floor
indoors,
the
bike
parking
for
the
businesses
should
be
in
front
of
the
shops
and
do
we
need
to
put
anything
else
for
the
monitoring
of
the
VMT
or
is
that
kind
of
built
in?
That's
that's
already.
The.
A
L
K
For
Apple
I
believe
that
we
were
going
to
be
monitoring
for
five
years
and
if
they
had
three
straight
years,
where
they
met
the
the
their
trip
thresholds,
we
would
not
continue
the
monitoring,
but
if
they
didn't,
then
they
would
kind
of
go
back
in
a
loop.
But
we
can
talk
to
place,
works
and
figure
out
what
that
might
be
for
a
project
this
size
and
something
that
would
be
more
appropriate
right.
A
A
A
Right
per
your
report:
okay,
was
there
anything
else
anyone
had
for
the
development
permit,
I,
don't
believe
so?
Okay,
so
we
can
vote
on
that.
Yeah.
J
I'll
do
that
to
approve
the
architectural
Insight
approval
permit
ASA
2021.004,
maybe
we'll
do
the
use
permit
too.
Do
you
want
to
do
that
or
do
we
want
to
do
them
all
separately.
L
A
L
Those
are
just
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
vp1,
where
we
we
reconditioned
it
to
the
those
10
spaces
on
that
site
were
specifically
marked
commercial
for
the
for
the
future
bike
part,
oh,
so
the
bike
shop,
whatever
we
could
potentially
do
the
same
thing
on
this
one.
If
the
concern
is
to
maintain
the
31
spaces
for
retail
I'm,
getting
a
head
shake
now,
so
it's.
J
Okay,
so
that
that
would
be,
then
the
motion
is
to
adopt
that
as
submitted.
Yes,.
E
Number
four
right:
yeah
okay
motion
to
approve
the
use
permit
the
u-2021-001
as
submitted
I'll.
Second.
A
U
W
W
B
U
A
Q
S
Depends
on
the
plan
check
process
and
and
and
how,
how
fast
we
can
protect,
produce
those
plants.
So
hopefully,
sometime
next
year,.
U
E
S
E
Just
want
to
say
really
nicely
put
together
plans
very
impressive,
so
Kudos
on
that.
Thank.
E
A
A
Okay,
commission
reports
Mooney;
no,
no,
no,
okay,
I,
don't
have
anything
future
agenda
setting.
Does
anyone
have
any
items
that
they
would
like
to
see
put
on
a
future
agenda.
A
Okay,
okay,
Madam
city
clerk:
were
there
any
hands
raised
or
blue
cards
for
staff
and
commission
reports
or
future
agenda
settings.