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Coverage of the April 12, 2022 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
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Okay,
we
have
to
read
the
whole
thing:
the
teleconference
public
participation,
knowledge
stuff.
So
so
good
evening.
Everybody
welcome
to
the
kupino
city
planning
commission
meeting
and
I'm
vice
chair,
muni
madipatla,
I'm
kind
of
filling
in
for
chair
stephen
sharp,
who
is
struggling
to
join.
Hopefully
you
know
he
comes
soon
and
takes
over.
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Okay,
security,
okay,
so
let's
get
started
while
chair
shaft
is
getting
set
up,
so
I
hope
you
know
you
guys
can
continue
to
hear
me.
So
this
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
pursuant
to
you
know:
public
california,
government
court,
five,
four,
nine,
five,
three,
you
know
in
a
public
forum
with
you,
know,
teleconference
meeting
and
you
know
physical
location.
To
stop.
I
mean
no
physical
location
to
stop
spread
of
kobit
19..
So
members
of
public,
you
know
wishing
to
comment
on
the
item
you
know,
may
do
so
in
the
following
ways.
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F
I
can
go
ahead
and
answer
that
there
were
several
meetings
that
were
taking
place,
that
we
did
need
to
prepare
agendas
and
noticing,
for
which
is
the
community
engagement
plan,
strategic
advisory
committee,
which
I
was
helping
with
agenda
and
notifications
for
that.
So,
unfortunately,
I
was
not
able
to
get
the
minutes
ready
in
time
for
the
agenda
packet
for
this
meeting,
but
they
will
definitely
be
available
by
the
april
26
meeting.
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E
I'm
sorry
it's
time
for
time
for
oral
communications.
Let
me
check
to
see
if
I
have
anyone
that
wishes
to
speak
during
oral.
If
you
wish
to
speak
during
oral,
raise
your
hand
I
have
two
hands
raised.
You'll
have
three
minutes
and
just
like
in
city
council
meetings.
If
you
wish
to
speak,
please
raise
your
hand
prior
to
the
first
speaker
finishing
so
welcome
jennifer.
J
Thank
you,
chair
sharp.
I
was
getting
all
ready
to
say,
welcome
vice
mayor,
muddy,
poplar,
okay,
all
right,
but
anyway,
nice
to
see
you
all.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
items
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
I
had
sent
an
email
to
the
planning
commission
and
to
the
city
council
about
as
an
example,
the
house,
the
six
cycle,
housing
element
in
santa
cruz
county
capitola,
has
just
begun.
J
Their
housing
element
too,
and
their
mayor,
whose
name
is
sam
story,
wrote
a
an
article
for
this
santa
cruz
sentinel,
and
he
he
had
some
very
interesting
points
that
I
think
people
should
be
aware
of
we're
all
in
this.
Together
with
the
housing
element,
santa
cruz
county
has
areas
of
unincorporated,
capitola,
scots
valley
and
santa
cruz
are
the
only
actual
cities
in
cup
in
santa
cruz
county,
and
I
think
watsonville
too,
but
santa
cruz
county
has
had
to
have
33
000
housing
units
from
their
reyna
cycle,
which
is
a
believe.
J
They
are
going
to
have
to
re-zone
practically
the
entire
city
to
try
to
accommodate
their
portion
of
the
arena
for
santa
cruz
county,
and
he
said
that
they
need
time
if
they're
going
to
do
this,
and
I
think
that
he
spoke
a
great
truth
there.
I
I'm
really
really
getting
concerned
about
the
the
state
and
hcd
and
other
powers
that
keep
beating
down
on
the
cities,
saying
that
you
have
to
do
something
by
a
certain
date.
As
you
all
are
aware,
santa
cruz
county
had
the
ccu
fire
two
years
ago.
J
There
were,
there
were
areas
and
cities
that
were
completely
evacuated
in
there.
I
know
I
have
relatives
there.
I
know
people
that
were
evacuated
out
for
almost
a
month.
You
cannot
get
fire
insurance
in
some
parts
of
aptos
and
capitola
and
to
think
that
anyone
would
be
urging
this
area
which
is
still
going
through
active
rebuilding.
I
see
trucks
on
17
when
I
go
over
two
times
a
week
that
are
going
into
scott's
valley
to
get
up
into
felton
to
rebuild
houses.
J
Anyone
would
be
a
fool
to
say
that
that
area
has
to
get
housing
implemented
by
a
certain
date.
They
are
victims
of
fires,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
gross
abuse
of
cities
such
as
capital
in
santa
cruz
county.
To
even
be
doing
this,
they
have
narrow
roads
problems
where
you
have
mud
flows.
Remember
love,
creek,
it's
asinine!
We
need
to
change
this.
Thank.
K
Thank
you,
you
didn't
say
my
name
or
I
didn't
hear
it.
So
it's
lisa
warren,
so
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
request:
a
very
strong
request
with
the
modified
sp35
application
submission
for
the
former
former
velco
area.
I'm
hoping
that
you
as
the
planning
commission,
will
use
your
the
reason
you're
there
to
help
with
planning
to
emphasize
to
staff
and
city
council.
The
great
importance
of
an
independent
third-party
review
of
all
of
the
newly
submitted
plan
sets
and
accompanying
documents
prior
to
the
submission.
K
So
please
encourage
beg
whatever
it
takes
to
have
some
eyes
that
are
independent
and
I
know
we've
the
city's
used
people
before
that
are
somewhat
familiar
with
this
area
and
would
probably
be
wise
to
reach
out
to
again.
So
please
help
facilitate
that,
and,
of
course
you
yourselves,
please
look
at
it
best.
You
can
together
and
individually
and
share
share
share.
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So
the
agenda
for
tonight
is,
I
will
run
through
the
projects.
There
are
seven
projects
that
we
are
proposing
and
we've
grouped
them
into
category
based
on
the
general
plan
goals,
so
there'll
be
projects
on
the
mobility
infrastructure
and
energy
sustainability,
infrastructure
and
land
use,
parks,
recreation,
community
service,
and
then
we
will
open
for
comments
and
discussion.
L
So
the
general
plan
includes
a
goal
stated
here
that
the
city's
infrastructure
will
be
upgraded
enhanced
through
the
capital
improvement
program
and
that
the
cip
is
reviewed
by
planning
to
confirm
that
it
meets
the
goals
and
policies
identified
in
community
vision.
2040.
The
general
plan
we're
here
tonight
to
present
the
proposed
new
projects
and
illustrate
that
conformance
for
your
consideration.
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L
I
hadn't
changed
the
title
from
last
year's
project,
so
in
short,
last
year
we
did
a
survey
of
our
cities,
our
cities
lighting
actually-
and
we
wanted
to
do
a
survey
to
see
what
it
would
take
to
bring
our
lighting
into
compliance
with
the
dark
sky
ordinance.
So
some
of
the
lighting
is
not
led
and
needs
to
be
brought
to
led
and
other
of
the
fixtures
are
led,
but
we
need
to
evaluate
them
to
see
if
they
meet
the
requirements
of
the
dark
sky
ordinance.
L
So
that
survey
has
been
completed
and
we
are
proposing
a
project
to
implement
the
results
of
that
survey.
So
that
would
be
we
estimate
a
million
dollars
and
it
would
take
more
than
one
year
to
do,
but
it
is,
there
are
over
2500
light
fixtures
that
would
be
addressing.
So
it's
quite
substantial
and
we
believe
it's
in
conformance
with
the
general
plan,
especially
these
aren't,
like
I
said,
all
of
the
policies
and
strategies,
but
we
wanted
to
stick
to
the
highlights.
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L
L
So
the
land
use
school
specifically
is
to
maintain
a
fiscally
sustainable
city.
Government
that
preserves
enhanced
quality
of
life,
promotes
innovative
strategies
to
address
parking
and
the
we
want
to
protect
the
urban
and
rural
ecosystems,
as
well
as
ensuring
that
the
infrastructure
is
enhanced
in
a
fiscally
responsible
manner.
L
We
actually
have
a
study
session
next
week
for
council
to
provide
further
direction,
but
the
proposal
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
that
the
existing
city
hall
building
was
built
in
1965
and
it
has
not
been
sufficiently
reinforced
to
withstand
a
major
seismic
event.
Retrofit
of
this
structural
system,
along
with
upgrades
to
the
infrastructure,
including
mep
and
life
safety,
are
essential
to
extending
useful
life
of
the
facility.
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L
L
The
cost
of
the
construction
is
going
to
be
substantial,
so
we
are
asking
the
city
council
to
approve
the
first
year,
funding
for
design
and
contract
services
for
consultants
related
to
the
defined
construction,
and
that
would
get
us
started
and
give
us
better
documentation
to
price
out
the
construction.
So
it's
worthy
to
note.
L
We
believe
this
project
meets
the
general
plan
by
looking
at
the
land
use
goals,
maintaining
improving,
improving
and
yeah,
improving
the
city's
long-term
fiscal
health
by
having
a
better,
more
efficient
building.
That
also
is
adjusting
the
energy
and
sustainability
goals
and
also
the
m6
vehicle
parking.
As
we
all
know,
parking
at
city,
civic
center
is
challenging,
so
we
are
proposing
to
add
parking
to
address
that
need,
and
we
also
want
to
develop
this
site
in
a
fiscally
and
sustainably.
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M
Here,
yeah,
I'm
I'm
here
yeah,
I
I
don't
believe
that
you're
gonna
be
conflicted
out
for
making
decisions.
Since
you
know
your
your
particular
situation
is
gonna
be
similar
to
other
members
of
the
public
who
reside
around
this
development,
so
I
think
you're
fine
to
to
participate
and
stay
in
this
meeting.
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M
Yeah,
as
far
as
I
know,
based
on
your
your
what
you're
informing
me
at
this
moment
to
be
your
residency
within
a
particular
distance
of
this
project,
I
don't
believe
you're
precluded.
Having
said
that,
please
note
that
the
purpose
of
this
of
this
presentation,
the
commission,
is
to
determine
that
it's
in
compliance
with
the
general
plan.
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L
So
the
next
project
also
had
a
wrong
prose
budget.
Here
I
apologize
for
the
city,
owns
three
residential
properties,
stockelmeyer
burn
and
blush,
and
this
project
is
a
minor.
We
actually
proposed
to
get
inspection
reports
on
those
three
properties
and
to
facilitate
a
strategy
discussion
about
what
next
steps
might
be
for
those
properties,
because
they're
currently
unused.
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L
So
if
I've
not
got
more
errors,
so
the
next
section
is
the
parks
and
recreation
projects.
There
are
three
of
them.
We
do
hope
that
these
projects
conform
to
the
general
plan.
There's
three
major
goals
stated
here
that
we
are
providing
a
range
of
part
and
recreation
resources
and
preserving
the
natural
resources,
providing
recreation
programs
and
services
that
meet
the
needs
of
the
population
and
provide
a
high
quality,
flexible
and
well-maintained
community
facility
that
meets
the
changing
needs
of
community
and
a
source
of
community
identity.
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L
The
next
project
is
a
jolly
man
all-inclusive
play
area,
adult
assistive,
bathroom
facilities,
so
one
of
the
existing
projects
in
the
cip
portfolio
is
a
new
all-inclusive
play
area
at
jellyman
park
and
that
is
underway.
Hopefully,
you've
seen
the
survey
on
engage,
cupertino.org
and
you've
taken
part
in
that
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
designing
that
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community.
L
The
people
that
come
to
the
fire,
car
of
all
ranges
of
mobility
and
the
currently
the
bathroom
facilities
are
across
the
park
to
600
square
foot.
Sorry,
600
foot
walk
and
having
a
base,
a
bathroom
adjacent
to
the
back
to
the
new
play
area
would
be.
It
would
just
enhance
the
usability
of
the
new
playground.
L
L
We
are
trying
to
respond
to
the
parks
and
recreation
system
master
plan
wherein
they
identified
the
need
to
have
a
major,
a
recreation
facility,
whether
it
be
performing
arts
aquatic
or
another
major
recreation
facility,
and
looking
at
that,
there
are
still
questions
as
to
what
would
be
of
most
use.
What
would
be
fiscally
responsible
for
the
city
and
where
that
would
go.
So
this
study
would
be
looking
at
that
to
try
to
figure
out
what
would
be
the
best
use
of
the
city's
resources.
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J
Thank
you,
chair
scharf
hi,
I'm
jennifer
griffin,
and
that
was
a
really
nice
presentation
from
the
staff
we
we're
so
happy
to
have
our
wonderful
staff.
You
guys
have
been
working
so
hard.
Believe
me,
I
understand
that
you
know
I'm
really
glad
that
you
all
mentioned
the
stockholmer
farm.
I
I
think
that
it
would
be
really
really
wonderful
for
this
city
to
focus
at
some
point
on
the
future
use
of
that
farmhouse.
J
I
have
to
put
my
glasses
on
to
watch
the
timer
on
tv.
Oh
I
hear,
and
now
we
have
this
this
house,
I
I
think
it
would
be
wonderful
to
develop
to
have
a
10,
20,
30
40
50
year
plan
for
this
this
price,
this
site,
you
don't
come
across
farm
houses
like
this
anymore.
They
get
torn
down,
they
get
bulldozed,
nobody
wants
them,
but
this
is
a
very,
very
important
homestead
from
the
farming
era
and
the
orchard
era.
I
think
they
had
a
viticulture
there
too.
J
If
I
remember
correctly
on
this
property-
and
we
need
to
remember
that
in
the
history
of
cupertino,
particularly
monte,
vista
by
blackberry
farm
was
a
pastoral,
a
rural,
a
farming
area,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
living
history,
museums.
I
have
been
to
appomattox
in
virginia
where
the
civil
war
ended.
I
have
been
to
george
washington's
home
and
then
many
things
in
california,
columbia,
gold,
rush
town.
You
can
have
different
types
of
living,
history,
museums
set
up
in
different
ways.
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E
B
L
B
L
E
B
Parking
lot
so
that
parking
garage
that
one
it
says
you
know
southeast
corner
right,
I'm
trying
to
visualize
know
where
it
is
right.
So
can
someone
help
me
understand
it?
Because
if
you
really
look
at
you
know
the
southeast
corner
of
you
know
library
parking
lot,
it's
the
beginning
of
that.
You
know
park
park,
space,
the
open
space,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
see
you
know
where
this
structure
is
going
to
be.
I
L
Put
it
at
that
back
corner,
we
would
have
considered
putting
the
parking
garage
more
adjacent
to
city
hall,
but
it's
a
smaller
lot
and
we
won't
be
able
to
reach
the
capacity
that
is
needed
to
address
the
parking
needs
of
the
civic
center.
So
the
proposal
is
to
put
it
to
the
southern
end,
which
is
south.
If
city
hall
is
north
in
the
library
south.
B
B
B
On
the
city,
lighting
transition
right,
the
led
stuff,
so
besides
you
know
controlling
the
light,
for
you
know
the
dark
skies
and
all
that
stuff.
How
much
in
energy
savings
is
expected,
because
you
know
it's
a
huge
number
of
lights.
You
got
to
believe
you
know
there
should
be
something
that,
in
terms
of
you,
know
the
savings
energy
savings.
Do
you
know.
B
L
L
Yeah,
I
don't
know
who
had
that
up
before
if
they
could
google
the
park
for
me,
so
the
play
area
that
exists
right
now
that
will
there
is
a
playground
that
is
going
to
be
replaced
by
a
new
all-inclusive
playground
and
immediately
adjacent
to
that.
So
the
circle
on
this
that's
wilson,
actually
is
it
no
you're
right?
I'm
sorry!
L
B
Okay,
so
the
all-inclusive
play
area
is
that
the
circle
that
where
you
have
the
arrow,
yeah,
okay,
so
the
bathroom
is
gonna,
be
right
next
to
it
right:
okay,
okay!
So
the
funding
for
this.
My
understanding
is:
you
know
that
all-inclusive
play
area
is
being
funded
by
county
grants.
Some
grants
that
we
got
from
county
so
couldn't
the
funding
for
the
bathroom
also
come
from
that
source?
Why
is
it
coming
from?
You
know,
city.
L
So
the
grant
that
we
received
the
aipg,
which
is
all-inclusive
playground,
grant
play
area
grants.
Is
it's
a
matching
grant,
so
there's,
I
think,
1.4
million.
I
think
it
is
that
we
received
as
a
grant
and
the
cities
required
to
match
those
funds.
We're
also
required
to
do
one
million
dollars
of
fundraising
in
order
to
comply
with
the
stricture
of
the
grant.
G
My
question
is
related
to
you
mentioned
about
the
city
house
is
nick
restructuring
and
the
parking
lot.
That
is
four
million
dollars
there.
That
is
just
for
planning
right
just
for
planning
and
that
funding
is
from
the
79.5
million,
which
I
saw
in
your
pamphlet,
which
you
handed
out
is
that
comes
from
that
entire
budget?
Or
is
it
a
separate
four
million
dollars.
L
G
E
M
Yes,
I
would,
and-
and
thank
you
chair
shark,
because
that
was
exactly
the
comment
I
was
going
to
make,
and
so
you
know,
of
course
you
know,
there's
some
clarification
questions
you
want
to
ask
based
on
the
materials
that
are
presented.
You
know
please
do
so,
but
but
this
is
not
to
design
any
project,
it's
just
to
ensure
that
these
projects,
we're
contemplating
over
the
next
year,
is
in
conforms
with
the
general
plan.
So
thank
you.
E
D
Hi
susan
and
thank
you
chair
just
quick
questions.
How
do
we
determine
like
which
projects
get
approved?
I
always
ask
this
question.
I
know
other
people
do
like
do
these
get
prioritized
because
you
know
they're
getting
funding
or
matching
grants
were
up
at
risk,
or
you
know
community
inputs
that
these
are
the
top
ones
or
or
staff
determined.
These
were
the
top
ones
just
to
remind
the
public
how
that
process
works
and
then
I'll
ask
you
some
questions
that
relate
back
to
the
gp
so.
D
So
yeah
I
mean
these
were
approved
by
council.
I
know
we're
just
we're
just
confirming.
I
think
people
need
to
know
that
these
are
the
ones
that
were
confirmed
by
council
and
prioritized,
but
there
are
other
capital
improvement
plans
that
are
coming
as
well
right.
Those
are
these
just
the
seven
for
now.
L
D
L
So
we
do
have
a
prioritization
process.
We
we
have
a
list
of
projects
that
we've
considered
up
in
previous
years.
We
asked
staff
who
keeping
in
mind
are
in
grounds
and
facilities,
and
they
know
park
and
rec.
He
asked
all
of
the
staff
to
do
project
initiation
and
we
received
those
projects
as
well
as
considering
other
projects,
for
example
the
stockholmer
blush
and
vern
analysis.
We've
listened
to
counsel
over
the
years
to
know
what
has
been
on
the
kind
of
top
of
mind
what
our
council
priorities.
L
We
also
refer
to
the
work
program,
so
we
take
this
list
of
projects
and
we
also
so
then
we
evaluate
projects.
Do
we
have
the
staff
to
do
it?
Does
it
conform
with
the
general
plan?
Does
it
meet
council
priorities?
Does
it
serve
a
community
need?
Is
it
funded
by
grants
already,
there's
a
number
of
criteria
that
we
have
and
we
apply,
and
that
is
actually,
I
believe,
one
of
the
attachments
excuse
me
that
was
provided
in
your
packet
shows
the
project
narratives
and
has
little
symbols
to
show
that
this
does.
L
L
We
have
40
active
projects
right
now
in
cip,
so
we
have
a
shorter
list
this
year
and
we're
trying
to
be
clear
about
things
that
are
achievable
so
yeah,
for
example,
the
bike
path
project
is
a
rather
simple
project.
We
won't
be
redesigning
streets
were
doing
restriping
on
it
and
transportation
division
has
assured
me
that
they
are
able
to
take
that
on.
At
this
point,.
D
Yeah,
I
noticed
that
four
of
these
were
council
priorities
and
four
of
them
were
health
and
safety
improvements.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
public
understood.
That
was
the
case
right
in
terms
of
that
prioritization,
so,
okay,
cool
and
a
quick
question,
I'm
just
going
through
one
of
them.
I
think
the
questions
I
had
were
similar
to
some
of
my
fellow
commissioners
about
the
library,
parking
garage
and
design.
I'm
not
going
to
add
to
that.
The
question
I
do
have
around
with
bike
lanes
and
dark
sky
projects.
D
Are
there
expiration
dates
for
these?
Like
you
know,
you
know
like
do
these
last
for
five
years,
they'll
last
for
10
years,
do
they
continue
on
for
some
time?
I
only
say
that,
because
some
bike
lanes
are
heavily
used,
some
bike
lanes
are
not
heavily
used.
Sometimes
we
could
actually
redirect
bike
lanes
in
other
places,
where
we'd
see
that
I
know,
there's
a
bike
pad
commission
and
that's
their
jurisdiction
to
do
that.
D
L
So
we're
always
checking
back
on
that.
Also,
in
terms
of
are
the
bike
lanes
being
used
that
you
have
actually
a
very
talented
transportation
division,
a
great
engineer
who
we're
always
looking
at
traffic
patterns
and
getting
feedback
from
the
community
and
the
bike
head
commission
is
also
quite
active
and
vocal,
and
they
would
be
the
first
ones
to
say
that
we
need
to
change
this.
It's
not
working.
So
I
think
in
the.
I
H
One
challenge
I
have
is
that
when
a
proposal
comes
to
the
planning
commission,
we
really
have
a
choice
between
two
or
three
designs,
which
we
could
study
and
comment
on.
It's
almost
like,
we
are
told
that
this
is
sort
of
the
freight
company
and
then
you
have
to
have
a
stamp
it
and
I
think
that
way
of
working
probably
doesn't
align
with
it.
H
C
L
L
G
Because
you
have
prioritized
these
to
be
presented
to
the
council
and
some
of
these
each
of
these
projects
have
certain
earmarked
mark
budget
allocated
to
it.
I'm
just
wondering
that
how,
in
your
decision
process
in
selecting
these
projects,
how
much
what
was
the
role
they
played
in
the
privatization.
L
We
are
aware
of
it.
Our
capital
improvements
reserve
is
definitely
part
of
the
reality
under
which
we
function.
The,
for
example,
with
the
city
hall
project.
We
tried
to
find
a
way
an
achievable
way
to
move
the
project
forward
by
bringing
it
into
chunks
that
we
could
get
the
project
started,
while
a
more
robust
funding
strategy
was
developed
by
the
city
in
order
to
cover
such
a
large
project.
G
E
E
E
H
A
C
M
Yeah,
it
was
the
red
lines
are
individually
provided
to
to
the
commissioners.
I
mean
the
bottom
line.
Is
it
already
sets
forth
that
you're
finding
that
it's
that
this
exempt
from
sequa?
And
so
you
know
all
of
those
additional
warehouses
aren't
necessary,
but
it's
there's
there's
nothing
wrong
with
them,
but
there
was
just
sort
of
surplusage.
M
E
E
F
H
B
E
D
I
wanted
to
see
how
people
thought
the
planning
commissioner
academy
was
unless
someone
talked
about
that
before.
So,
if
there's
anything
learned
that
was
there,
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
go,
but
I
think
I
what
downloaded
all
the
presentations,
so
I
wanted
to
see
how
people
were
thinking
there,
and
the
second
thing
I
have
was
you
know
just
trying
to
see
if
people
have
gotten
community
input
for
what's
been
going
on
with
the
proposal,
for,
I
guess
the
rise.
So
that's
basically
my
comments.
E
B
Yeah,
I
briefly
raised
yeah,
so
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
you
know,
questions
coming
in
the
community
about
the
rice
right,
so
people
just
I
often
talk
to
residents
and
they
don't
know
their
lot
of
questions.
So
everything
that
we
can
do
to
inform
our
residents
with
respect.
You
know
the
delta
between
you
know.
What
does
the
original
plan
are
approved
through
the
sv
35
plan,
which
is
you
know,
what's
being
proposed
now,
it'll
be
a
a
good
thing
to
educate
the
community.
E
Okay
and
on
that
I
did
at
the
agenda
setting
meeting
for
the
planning
commission
last
week.
I
did
request
that
we
get
a
review
of
this
at
the
planning
commission,
but
it
was
too
soon
for
tonight's
meeting.
So
hopefully,
by
in
two
weeks
we
will
be
able
to
have
something
on
the
agenda
to
look
at
the
proposed
changes
to
the
sp35
project
and.
D
E
C
E
Okay,
right-
and
there
are
you
know
there
are
ongoing
things
happening
within
the
city
to
look
at
this.
It
just
was
too
soon
for
tonight
to
have
any
physical
or
legal
review
of
it,
so
that
will
be
coming
up
and
the
planning
commissioner
academy
yeah.
I
did
attend.
I
mentioned
it
briefly
at
the
last
meeting,
but
the
meeting
was
so
long.
I
didn't
go
much
into
detail,
but
it
it
was
excellent.
I
can
just
say
that
it
was
at
bishop
ranch
out
in
san
ramon.
E
The
developer
gave
us
a
tour
of
the
property
and
they
kind
of
over
built
on
their
class
a
office,
and
then
they
went
recently.
I
think
in
january
they
sold
some
of
the
office
buildings
to
a
housing
developer,
who
will
be
building
he'll,
be
tearing
down
the
office
buildings
and
building
single-family
homes
and
town
homes.
E
So
that
was
interesting,
that
sunset
development
found
the
same
thing
and
found
a
housing
developer
that
was
willing
to
buy
those
office
buildings
and
raise
them
and
build
housing
which
should
be
coming
very
soon.
I
think
they're
be
starting
construction
this
year,
and
I
mentioned
that
we
had
an
sb9
session
and,
as
someone
else
mentioned
last
meeting
cupertino
got
mentioned
in
that
sb9
session.
E
E
G
It
was
very
good
presentations
on
how
the
I
took
one
message
away
that
the
there
was
a
strong
emphasis
on
the
density,
so
anything
which
goes
against
density
will
be
shot
down.
So
that
was
clear
in
session
after
session
in
session
after
session.
So
sequa
presentation
was
very
good
and
I
think
they
went.
They
have
advanced
sequence
equal
both.
So
I
think
they
went
in
far
more
details
and
the
one
thing
they
pointed
out
that
the
sequa
does
not
have
a
ba
and
the
project
approval
they
have.
G
G
Cupertino
was
mentioned
in
two
times.
One
was,
of
course,
for
their
innovative
sun
shades,
ordinance
that
you
cannot
have
solar
panels
in
the
shade
of
the
other
neighboring
building,
and
that
would
avoid
that
would
cause
energy
loss
and
things
like
that-
and
I
think
most
of
the
commissioners
who
came
there-
there
were
all
familiar
about
walco,
so
people
had
lots
of
different
ideas.
How
the
volca
problem
can
be
solved
and
why
the
sequa
is
issue
can
be
solved
for
walker.
I
E
E
Yeah,
it's
a
little
bit
scary,
because,
first
of
all,
there's
the
proposal
to
allow
two-story
adus,
which
would
be
four
feet
still
four
feet
from
the
property
line.
There's
the
proposal
there
with
there's
three
different
laws
to
try
to
take
away
impact
fees
from
cities
which
would
be
disastrous
to
all
cities.
E
So
hopefully
the
cal
cities
will
be
opposing
those
it
sounded
like
they
would,
as
well
as
the
that
bob
weikowski's
adu
ordinance,
because
you
know
a
two-story
adu
backing
corporate
from
the
property
line
would
would
not
be
a
good
thing
and
it
would
be
the
city
could
not
do
anything
about
it.
It
would
be
approved
by
default
ministerially
approved.
E
It
sounded
like
they
had
gotten
some
and
I
think
they
what
happened
that
one
of
the
days
we
were
there,
that's
when
the
state
auditor's
report
came
out
on
hcd,
and
so
I
think
the
league,
I
think
it
was
seemed
to
be
getting
more
backbone.
I
think
they
were.
You
know
the
whole.
The
whole
audit
was
prompted
by
the
california
alliance
of
local
electeds
and
I
think
the
league
saw
the
success
they
had
and
is
taking
note
of
it.
That's
all,
maybe
I
will
say
about
that.
B
Thank
you
thank
you,
chef
and
commissioner
sanji
for
a
detailed
report.
I
was
one
of
the
people
planning
to
attend
that
registered,
but
I
couldn't
because
last
night
you
know
I
had
to
travel
to
india
for
family
emergency.
So
my
my
apologies,
but
I
think
you
know
you
feel
filled
us
in
specifically,
though
the
the
mix
right,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
friends,
you
know
in
that
area
that
lived
and
they
always
considered
know
the
bishop
ranch.
B
As
you
know,
one
of
the
very
successful
you
know
mixed
use
and
high.
You
know
retail
centric.
You
know
location
right,
so
it's
good
to
hear
that
you
know
the
retail
is
thriving
there
and
and
residences,
and
you
know,
building
off
office
and
you
know
where
they
are
going
to.
You
know,
convert
to
offices.
So
that's
that's
a
good
insight
right.
So.
E
E
B
E
E
G
One
comment
I
just
want
to:
I
heard
that
in
the
planning
academy
sessions
that
if
the
city
is
once
changed,
the
the
state
or
meant
the
state
rules,
it
can
issue
an
ordinance.
So
if
you
are
concerned
about
about
a
particular
issue,
then
city
has
some
rights
to
issue
ordinance.
So
what
do
you
think
about
that?
G
G
E
M
Well,
I
just
want
to
point
out,
though
man,
that's
a
good
question
that
commissioner
cabille
asked,
but
this
complicated.
I
think
it's
a
you
know
it's
it's
it's
a
statue
by
statute.
You
know
examination
because
we're
a
general
lost
city,
we're
governed
by
state
law.
We
have
to
comply
with
state
law,
and
so
you
know
sometimes
the
state's
going
to
preempt
any
sort
of
regulation.
M
That's
contrary
to
what
to
say
and
then
other
times
you
know
you
can
pass
legislation
that
that
may
be
more
more
strenuous,
and
so
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
it's
a
a
rather
complicated
response.
That's
really!
You
know
determined
by
each
specific
ordinance.
You
want
to
further
regulate
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
It's
just
you
know
so.
E
M
You
know
offhand,
I
I
don't
know
all
the
specifics,
but
it
certainly
would
require,
like
you
know,
vote
of
the
citizens
and
coming
out
with
a
charter,
and
so
it's
it's
it's
fairly
complicated
and
you
you
have
a
right
distinction
between
charter
and
general
law
cities.
Charter
cities
generally
can
control,
what's
called
their
own
municipal
affairs.
E
M
B
B
So
a
couple
of
things
that
I
just
wanted
to
one
question,
and
you
know
one
information
so
I'll
be
out
next
two
weeks
traveling.
So
if
there
are
any
meetings
you
know
I
will
not
be
able
to
attend,
because
I
will
be
totally
in
a
different
time
zone,
but
if
there
are
any
mandatory
meetings,
I
would
like
to
know
this
week.
That's
just
an
fyi.
B
C
So
the
consultant
is
working
on
that
sites
list,
of
course,
some
of
the
resources
that
he
had
got
redirected
to
the
community
engagement
committee
that
was
formed
and
as
a
result,
that
list
kind
of
got
shelved
a
little
bit.
However,
that
is
still
on
track
to
come
before
the
planning
commission
at
this
time
on
april
26th.
E
E
D
E
D
C
I
believe
that
is
a
council
decision,
and
so
any
meetings
after
I
believe
it's
april,
14th
is
or
or
maybe
it's
tonight-
maybe
it's
april
13th
are
all
supposed
to
supposed
to
well,
are
all
in
person
except
the
planning,
commission,
the
city
council
and
the
parks
and
rec
commission.
If
I
can
remember
right,
those
are
hybrid,
but
hybrid
is
only
for
the
public.
The
commission
and
staff
still
would
be
at
the
city
hall
chambers.
M
I
M
M
The
the
remote
teleconferencing
meetings
in
compliance
with
the
brown
act-
I
don't
know
often
how
far
much
further
it
goes
in,
but
council
did
express
the
desire
that
that
that
our
the
commission's
next
meeting
and
the
council's
next
meeting
on
tuesday
19th
be
hybrid.
Having
said
that,
my
understanding
is
that
they're
also
going
to
allow
staff
to
make
presentations.
M
M
Maybe
send
out
communication
to
all
of
you
with
respect
to
what
can
and
can't
be
done
in
respect
to
commissioner
wong's
query
I
mean
I
think,
even
under
the
brown
act,
I
mean
to
the
extent
that
we
can't
extend
the
teleconference
thing.
I
mean
there
was
always
procedures
where
you're
kind
of
not
going
to
be
available.
You
could
attend
from
further
away,
but
you
just
have
to
allow.
If
there's
someone
in
the
public
who
wants
to
you,
know,
join
you
in
that
facility,
they
can
do
so.
B
B
That
week,
so
time
zone
wise
and
it
won't
work
out.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
confusion
about
another
hybrid
meeting,
so
it
will
be
nice
to
get
a
very
clear
instructions.
What
it
means
I
was
under.
The
impression
hybrid
meeting
means
you
know
we
have
an
option
of
you
know
being
in
person
or
no
attending
remotely,
and
but
I
just
got
a
clarification
saying
you
know
that's
only
for
public.
You
know
that
they
have
an
option
to
either
to
come
in
personal
remote,
but
we
have
to
be
in
in
the
office.