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From YouTube: Cupertino Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting - June 2, 2022 (Live Streamed Version)
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Coverage of the June 2, 2022 Cupertino Parks and Recreation Commission Teleconference Meeting.
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I
am
the
vice
chair
of
the
parks
and
rec
commission.
B
Awesome
hi
hello:
this
is
sashi
bigur.
I
am
the
vice
chair
of
the
parks
and
rec
commission.
Our
chair
mina
had
some
issues
and
will
be
joining
us
later
today
at
about
8
o'clock.
So
until
she
joins,
I
will
be
conducting
the
meeting
tonight.
B
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F
And
vice
chair,
bangor,
yes,
and
as
of
right
now,
chair
shoe
and
commissioner
stanek
are
absent.
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B
So
the
next
order
of
things
would
be
the
approval
of
minutes.
We
have
two
sets
of
minutes
that
we
have
to
approve
so
the
first
one,
which
is
the
april
meeting
minutes.
I
believe
we
have
a
quorum
to
be
able
to
address
that,
but
the
second
one
we
would
have
to
wait
until
maybe
our
chair
joins
us
or
have
to
postpone
approval
of
that
minute
of
those
minutes
until
we
have
enough
of
a
forum
to
to
approve
that,
because
I
believe
commissioner
swami
wasn't
at
that
meeting.
B
So
we
can't
do
that
right
now,
so
I'm
gonna
suggest
that
we
postpone
it
to
later
today
after
the
chair
joins
us,
so
that
we
can
take
care
of
that
business,
then
so
for
right
now
we
will
just
look
at
the
april
meeting
minutes.
So
commissioners,
does
anybody
have
any
comments
on
the
april
parks
and
rec
april
7th
parks
and
rec
meeting.
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I
I
can't
approve,
I
can't
make
the
motion
right
so
therefore,
I'll
wait
for.
B
Awesome
so
jessica,
would
you
like
to
go
around
and
get.
B
Okay,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
may
18th
one
we
will
handle
later.
There
are
no
postponements,
as
far
as
I
can
tell
for
this
meeting
is
that
right
and
since
we
have,
we
do
have
two
attendees.
Are
there
any
oral
any
comments
that
any
of
the
attendees
want
to
make.
B
H
I
don't
have
anything,
why
is
chip.
B
Good,
I
I
was
also
wondering
if
the
attendees
wanted
to
say
something
so
with
that
love,
were
there
any
written
communications,
since
nobody
is
raising
their
hand,
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
topic,
which
is
the
written
communications?
Were
there
any
written
communications
that
we
received
jessica.
B
And
so
let's
go
on
to
the
new
business
and
let's
get
ourselves
an
update
on
the
memorial
park,
ponds,
repurposing
project.
C
Good
evening,
commissioners,
you
can
hear
me
okay,
good
evening
to
everybody
in
attendance.
Thank
you
tonight,
I'm
going
to
introduce
the
team
that
is
working
on
this
project
and
ayano
hattori
is
the
project
manager
in
cip
and
she'll,
be
doing
the
presentation,
and
we
also
have
chad
mosley
the
assistant
director
of
public
works
and
matt
morley,
the
director
of
public
works,
who
will
be
available
for
questions
following
the
presentation.
J
J
J
J
The
city
had
the
area
surveyed
to
facilitate
the
design
of
the
project.
The
following
slides
will
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
post
work.
The
city
put
the
project
out
to
bid
and
the
bid
process
closed
on
may
12th.
The
low
bidder
for
the
project
was
granite,
rock
company
and
their
bid
of
approximately
1.3
million
dollars
was
in
line
with
the
projected
project
costs.
J
The
design
consists
of
removal
of
the
concrete
liner
backfill
of
the
excavation
and
minor
grading
and
drainage
work.
The
area
will
be
restored
with
vegetation
and
minor,
paving
work
to
enable
the
public
to
reuse
the
area.
The
project
was
designed
to
minimize
the
need
to
remove
improvements
in
the
future.
Much
of
the
project
consists
of
work
that
need
to
happen
no
matter
what
future
improvements
the
city
considers.
J
J
Restoration
of
the
area
consists
of
various
asphalt,
pads
and
vegetation
coverage.
Our
area
around
the
amphitheater
will
be
restored
with
low
ground
coverage
to
help
separate
the
staging
area
from
the
amphitheater
seating.
The
city
is
installing
asphalt
paths
around
the
back
of
the
staging
area
and
around
the
gazebo
to
provide
better
pedestrian
connection.
J
K
B
Attendees,
I
guess
I
have
to
go
to
the
I
do.
Have
a
couple
of
questions
actually
before
I
go
to
the
to
the
attendees.
Is
that
the
right
order
in
which
I'm
doing
things?
Yes?
No,
maybe
okay,
so
this
this
was
part
of
the
approval
for
2122,
or
is
it
going
forward?
I
I
don't
know
if
I
missed
that
ayanna.
J
C
B
And
when
it
was
made
part
of
that
program,
was
there
any
specific
discussion
on
how
much
you
know
what
was
the
budget?
I
think
there
was
a
mention
that
it
was
within
the
range,
but
what
was
the?
What
was
the
budget
allocated
and
how
much
within
that
range?
Is
this
current.
C
B
C
I
think
direct
assistant
director
mosley
would
love
to
answer
that
question.
Yeah.
L
So
the
you
know
the
pawns
are
set
into
the
ground
and
there
is
a
concrete
liner
that
hold
that
held
the
water
there's
actually
two
levels
in
some
parts
of
the
pond.
So
when
we
remove
that
concrete
liner,
we're
gonna
have
a
hole
in
the
ground
and
of
course
we
need
to
fill
that
hole
with
imported
soil
and
that's
the
grading
work
that
we're
talking
about
and
when
we
bring
in
that
that
grading
or
that
that
soil,
we
need
to
ensure
that
it
it
drains
properly
for
storm
drainage
purposes.
B
L
The
the
northern
sutterly
one
was
just
a
convenient
way
for
us
to
kind
of
show
you
a
closer
up
of
what
was
being
proposed
there,
the
southern,
the
southern
pond
area,
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
turf
in
that
most
subtly
section
in
the
area
where
there's
that
rock
channel
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
some
some
ground
cover
there.
That's
the
drought,
tolerance
in
the
northern
section.
L
There's
the
area
around
the
amphitheater,
where
we're
removing
the
ponds
and
putting
in
again
low
drought,
tolerant
vegetation,
the
northerly
part
is,
is
mostly
turf
around
the
gazebo
in
the
large
pond
area
and
then
there's
a
a
small,
concrete
pagoda
in
kind
of
a
central
section
and
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
drought-tolerant
vegetation
in
that
area
as
well.
B
I
Yup.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
victor
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
Maybe
I
missed
it
in
the
update.
Do
we
have
a
timeline?
I
know
you
said
the
may
12th
or
something
the
the
contract
has
been
closed
or
awarded.
Is
that
did
I
hear
that
correctly.
L
So
the
city
put
the
project
out
to
bid
in
in
april
that
those
bids
closed
on
may
12th.
We
reviewed,
we
reviewed
the
proposals
and
the
low
bidder
was
granted
rock
construction
and
we
we
planned
to
take
that
contract
to
city
council
for
award
on
june
7th,
where
they'll
award
the
contract
to
the
contractor
so
that
they
can
begin
its
construction.
I
Thank
you,
and-
and
the
second
question
I
had
was
all
these:
the
plans.
Do
we
have
the
sequence
or
maybe,
if
it
is
already
there,
I
missed
it.
Apologies
do
we
have
a
timeline
on
when
once
it
is
awarded
when
the
work
gets
started
on
on
the
stages
of
the
the
work
or
the
sequence
of
work.
Yes,.
L
L
B
Any
other
questions,
anybody
else.
Okay,
doesn't
none
of
the
participants.
Oh
carol
has
raised
her
hand,
so
I'm
going
to
allow
you
to
talk.
M
Hi
everyone,
I'm
just
full
disclosure,
I'm
from
the
fine
arts
committee,
but
I'm
just
wanted
to
join
in
because
I
thought
this
was
a
part
that
I
frequent
regularly
my
question
and
and
if
it's
been
answered,
many
many
meetings
ago.
Apologies
but
I'd
still
like
to
know
is
the
expectation
that
the
pond
areas
that
are
to
be
filled
in
are
areas
that
people
will
just
remain
out
of.
M
K
M
Okay,
that's
great,
I
just
I
didn't
know
with
some
of
the
descriptions
about
the
landscaping
to
be
put
in
place.
If
the
expectation
is
that
the
this
is
space,
that
people
will
be
not
not
allowed
within
and
just
kind
of
observe,
so.
B
I
Great
thank
you,
since
the
work
is
going
to
start,
and
I
I
think
chad
I
think
you
mentioned
that
only
the
amputated
area
won't
be
touched
on
it,
but
since
it's
summer
season
right,
so
a
lot
of
activity
will
happen
around
the
park,
and
these
big
machinery
is
moving
and
all
of
them.
What
is
it?
Is
it
totally
still
accessible
the
the
memorial
park
or
we're
going
to
completely
close
down
or
what
is
it?
What
is
it
we
plan
to
do
yeah.
L
The
we
anticipate
fencing
off
the
area
immediately
adjacent
to
the
ponds,
so,
basically
right
now
the
ponds
are
kind
of
off
limits
as
it
is
and
we're
not
anticipating
the
construction
staging
area
to
be
much
larger
than
the
existing
ponds.
So,
basically
we're
fencing
off
the
ponds.
You
won't
be
able
to
access
that
area,
but
you
should
be
able
to
access
all
the
areas
around.
L
It
shouldn't
be
much
much
more
of
an
impact
to
the
public
than
what
there
is
now
after
the
summer
sessions
are
over,
there'll
be
work
around
the
amphitheater
area,
which
could
you
know,
impact
use
in
that
immediate
vicinity
just
due
to
access
and
the
work
that
needs
to
happen
there,
but
for
the
most
part
that
the
public
shouldn't
be
impacted
by
the
construction
activity.
I
L
We
have
not
yet
we
have
not
prioritized
the
northern
section
over
the
southern
section.
We've
only
prioritized
we've
only
basically
screened
out
the
amphitheater
area.
So
with
respect
to
how
the
contractor
does
the
work?
That's
actually
the
contractor's
decision
on
how
to
perform
that
work.
I
imagine-
and
I
don't
know
yet.
A
L
The
only
staging
that's
happening,
but
again,
if
the
company
it's
up
to
the
contractor,
how
they
want
to
perform
their
work.
B
I
have
a
follow-up
question
or
sort
of
a
comment.
So
specifically
ayanna.
B
Can
you
put
back
the
southern
the
the
picture
of
the
southern
plan.
B
So
my
question
really
is
to
the
assistant
director,
mostly
so
with
this
with
the
southern
plan.
There
I
think,
that's
where
the
play
structure
is
in
towards
the
southern
area.
If
I'm
right
is
that
correct,
yeah.
B
So
when
they're
working
on
this,
they
will
quarter
off
the
entire.
The
entire
area
and
the
playground
area
will
be
clearly
still
open
and
quite
far
away
from
all
the
construction.
L
B
Kind
of
curious,
where
of
just
a
couple,
more
follow-up
questions
what
other?
So
I
think
some
I
think,
somewhere
along
somebody
mentioned
that
some
parts
of
this
will
have
to
be
reworked
as
part
of
the
master
plan
requirements.
L
I'll
explain
that
we're
not
sure
what's
going
to
come
in
the
master
plan,
the
master
plan
or
the
specific
plan
for
memorial
park
is
anticipated
to
begin
later
on
this
year,
not
much
later
but
later
on
this
year.
At
that
point,
we'll
be
collecting
public
input
on
what
they
want
to
see
happen
with
the
park,
and
with
that
there
may
be
some
ideas.
The
public
wants
to
see
there,
and
you
know
we
would.
We
would
work
to
bring
those
projects
to
fruition
in
the
future.
L
It
may
be
that
the
public
ultimately
likes
the
turf
area
and
that's
what
stays
or
maybe
they
want
to
put
a
basketball
court
in
there.
I'm
not
sure,
that's
for
the
public
to
tell
us
what
they
want
and
when
we
go
to
design
that
we'll
we'll
do
what
we
can
to
to
implement
it
in
that
area,
because
if
that
makes
sense.
B
Yeah
sure
no
I
mean
it's
fair.
We
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
be
asked
to
do,
but
then,
from
this
1.3
million,
are
we
going
to
be
potentially
scrapping
the
entire
1.3
million,
or
is
there
do
we
have
a
detailed
breakup
as
to
how
much
you
know
just
say
if
we
take
out
the
cir
turf
area,
if
we
take
out
just
the
turf
area
and
the
southern
plan,
do
we
have
the
breakup
like
that
yeah.
L
It's
not
extremely
detailed,
but
based
on
the
estimates
we
received
from
the
contractor
for
irrigation
work
and
turf
work,
it's
about
15
of
the
1.3
million,
so
somewhere
around
250
000
is
turf
irrigation
that
could
potentially
be
removed
or
revised
to
address
future
improvements.
L
At
the
same
time,
you
know
what
this
250
000
does
right
now
is
to
allow
us
to
open
this
area
up
to
the
public
by
the
end
of
by
the
end
of
the
summer,
so
that
the
area
is
usable
until
the
memorial
park
specific
plan
gets
completed
and
then
we
go
and
and
choose
the
projects
and
have
them
designed,
which
could
be
as
far
as
two
years
out
before
any
future
project
happens.
There.
B
B
You
said
that
this
was
the
budget
was
3.3
million
from
the
cip
and
this
particular
part
of
the
project
is
1.3
and
some
part
of
it
was
the
design
work.
Do
we
know
how
much
was
the
design
work.
L
L
L
Construction
costs
were
rising
extremely
quickly,
and
so
we
believed
it
was
going
to
be
somewhere
around
3
million
and
then,
when
we
were
going
when
we
were
beginning
this,
we
knew
there
were
going
to
be
a
lot
of
concerns
about
any
work
that
we
were
doing.
We
don't
want
to
be,
you
know,
putting
in
a
bunch
of
work
and
then
ripping
it
out
later
with
the
specific
plan.
L
B
Excellent,
so
a
follow-up
question:
now
the
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
get
the
name
of
the
contractor.
Did
you
say
granite
rock
or.
B
Okay,
I
I,
I
guess
the
the
name
is
not
that
important
you
you
had
mentioned,
I
mean
I
want
to
say
the
correct
name.
However:
you'd
mention
that
they
were
awarded
the
contract
because
they
were
the
lowest
bidder.
So
what
were
the
other
criteria
that
they
met
in
order
for
them
to?
B
L
In
all
honesty,
if
they
are
the
low
bidder
and
they
are
considered
a
responsive
contractor
to
the
requirements,
they
are
the
ones
awarded
the
contract.
That's
that's.
What
the
state
public
contracting
code
requires
that
the
lowest
bidder
who
is
responsible
and
can
get
the
job
done,
he's
the
one
who
gets
the
job.
B
Okay,
so
it's
so
have
we
worked
with
them
before?
Have
they
done
other
projects
in
the
city?
How
did
we
determine
that
they
are
responsible.
L
They
are
they're
a
very
large
contracting
firm.
They
have
actually
done
work
for
us
in
the
past.
In
fact,
there
was
a
few
years
ago
back
in
2017
when
we
had
those
large
storms.
There
was
a
washout
up
on
ragnart
road
and
they
were
the
low
bidder
on
that
contract
and
repaired.
The
road
and
put
them
retaining
wall
did
an
excellent
job
was
very
responsive
to
the
public,
so
we
have
worked
with
them
in
the
past
and
they
are
very
good
contractors
to
work
with.
B
It
looks
like
commissioner
swami
has
a
comment
or
a
question.
H
Yes,
I
had
thank
you
vice
chair
bigur.
My
question
was:
I
heard
you
say
that
you
might
put
in
a
basketball
court
if
there
was
a
public
need
for
it
or
a
request
for
it.
What
is
the
process
of
determining
that?
What
is
the
timeline?
How
do
you
do
what
I
would
like
I'd
like
to
have
a
little
bit
more
understanding
of
the
process.
L
Yeah
not
a
problem
like
I
said
we
are
in
the
process
of
preparing
a
specific
plan
for
memorial
park
and
the
specific
plan
will
have
a
very
robust
public
outreach
portion
to
that
or
we'll
reach
out
to
the
public
and
ask
you
know
what
we're
planning
the
future
of
this
park.
What
do
you
want
to
see?
L
Maybe
the
public
comes
back
and
says
we
don't
want
anything
to
happen.
We
like
the
park
exactly
the
way
it
is
that
might
make
things
worse.
It
might
make
things
easier,
but
we're
anticipating
that
the
the
public
will
want
some
improvements
and
I
just
threw
out
basketball
court.
Just
as
you
know
a
potential,
we
don't
know
what
the
public's
going
to
want.
We're
here,
to
listen
to
you
and
to
to
the
citizens
to
see
what
they
have
to
say.
Looks
like
susan
would
like
to
speak
to
you.
C
I
would
just
like
to
add
to
that
that,
as
part
of
the
parks
and
recreation
system
master
plan
from
2018,
there
was
also
a
robust
public
input
process.
So
we
will
be
using
that
input
as
well,
but
we
will
take
that
and
open
it
up
again
for
input
with
a
public
outreach
process,
probably
similar
to
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
for
the
lawrence
committee.
The
jolly
man
all-inclusive
play
area.
C
H
Yeah,
I
have
a
follow-up
question
to
that
when
you
ask
for
public
feedback,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
response,
is
there
actually
a
cost
attached
to
doing
a
survey
to
get
the
public
feedback
and
if
so,
what
is
the
cost
for
that.
C
The
costs
vary,
there
is
a
cost,
there's
a
cost
in
that
we
hire.
We
typically
have
a
mix
of
internal
staff
that
work
on
it
and
there's
no
direct
cost
there,
except
for
the
cost
to
have
those
employees
on
staff.
C
There's
also
typically,
there's
consultants
involved
that
help
us
to
organize
and
do
the
right
thing,
because
there
are
professionals
that
know
these
communication
processes
in
some
ways
better
than
we
do,
but
it
does
depend
on
the
project.
We
also
depend
on
the
we've
been
using
the
engage
cupertino
website
which
there's
the
city
has
engaged
this
website
and
I'm
sure
there's
some
costs
related
to
that.
But
we
don't
pay
for
that
out
of
the
project
fund.
There
are
other
costs
like
mailers
and
things
like
that,
depending
on
the
outreach
methods
that
we
choose.
C
So
I
couldn't
speak
to
specifics,
but
it
does
take
time
and
money
to
do
that
process.
Yes,.
H
Is
there
actually
a
way
in
which
there
could
be
volunteers
that
are
professionals
that
can
potentially
help?
I
was
perhaps
my
knowledge
is
not
accurate,
but
somebody
told
me
that
sometimes
this
survey
can
take
as
much
as
eighty
thousand
dollars
to
complete.
Is
there
a
way
in
which
there
could
be
volunteers,
professional
volunteers
who
know
how
to
do
survey?
Writing
that
can
help
cover
the
I
mean
volunteer
their
time
and
give
you
the
survey
or
provide
that
feedback
or
service
to
the
city
at
cost,
or
at
no
cost.
C
There
probably
are
ways
that
that
could
happen.
I
think
we'd
have
to
be
organized
for
that
to
be
in
place
so
that
it
was
a
confident
group
of
people
that
would
be
able
to
mobilize
and
engage
the
public
effectively
yeah.
The
difficulty
would
be
organizing
that
on
a
project
or
project
basis,
we
have
done
different
levels
of
contracting.
You
could
say
for
the
different
projects
and
so,
for
example,
for
the
blackberry
farms.
Golf
course.
A
C
A
H
C
I'm
sorry
assistant
director,
mostly
something
else
to
add.
L
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
add
quickly
oftentimes
the
these
surveys
and
a
lot
of
this
public
outreach
is
included
with
the
whatever
contract
we
have
for
the
professional
service
for
the
professional
consultant
who's.
Putting
together
the
specific
plan,
we
typically
will
build
those
types
of
outreach
into
the
contract,
and
that
is
kind
of
what
has
happened
with
the
lawrence
midi
plan.
There
were
some
surveys
that
were
put
out
by
our
consultants
and
a
lot
of
other
outreach
efforts
that
have
been
put
out
by
them
so
right.
L
I
don't
know
exactly
what
it
was.
It
was
built
into
the
contract
for
the
specific
plan,
preparation
and
that
contract
for
the
lawrence
mini
specific
plan
for
the
entire
specific
plan.
Preparation
was
around
300
000.
I
recall
250
to
300
000,
but.
H
Okay,
so
is,
is
my
information
incorrect
that
it
could
be
as
much
as
eighty
thousand
dollars
for
a
survey.
L
I
don't
recall
that
certainly
the
surveys
being
that
expensive,
they're
typically
you
know
a
an
electronic
survey.
That's
done
online
and
we'll
typically
send
mailers
to
folks
so
that
they
can
have
their
inputs.
My
understanding
that
a
citywide
mailer
costs
somewhere
around
5000
to
six
thousand
dollars,
and
so
after
that
is
really
just
the
preparation
of
the
survey
and
which,
if
it's
an
online
survey,
is
probably
not
overly
expensive.
You
know
maybe
a
few
thousand
dollars
to
prepare
it.
I'm
not
exactly
sure,
but
80
000
seems.
H
B
All
right,
I
have
one
more
follow-up
question
that
I
forgot
to
ask
earlier
now
with
every
contract.
You
know,
at
least
I
that
I
have
handled
before
the
contractor
personally,
when
I've
handled
it.
The
contractor
gives
me
one
number
and
then,
by
the
end
of
the
project,
it
is
always
a
plus,
it's
never
a
minus.
B
L
We
we
typically
build
a
contingency
into
the
into
the
1.3.
What
ayano
do
you
recall
what
the
contingency
is
for
this
project.
L
So
we're
building
in.
L
Yeah,
so
I
think
about
150
000
contingency
to
take
care
of
some
of
those
unforeseens
because
yeah
you're
right.
It
typically
goes
up
with
that
stated
staff
trying
to
think
outside
of
the
box.
We
do
have
the
westport
project
right
across
the
road,
they're
planning
on
doing
excavation
for
that
project,
and
we've
been
coordinating
with
the
developer
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
import
soil
from
that
property.
Take
it
right
across
the
street
and
use
it
here
and
we're
hoping
that
there
may
be
a
cost
savings
there.
L
B
B
Every
contractor
is
supposed
to
do
within
the
1.3
or
1.5
or
whatever
we've
built
in
and
they're,
going
to
give
us
like
six
trees,
two
two
pawns
whatever
whatever
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they
will
take
their
1.5
regardless
and
they
might
give
us
one
tree
instead
of
six
trees,
because
costs
went
up
because
of
covid.
Somebody
happened,
supply
issue
this
that
and
the
third
thing.
What
do
we
have
built
into
the
contract?
That
says
you
don't
deliver
this?
B
You
don't
get
paid
this
much
or
if
you
delay
the
project,
you
don't
get
paid
or
do
contracts
for
city
not
involve
such
such
terms.
Oh.
L
No,
we've
got
all
kinds
of
stuff
in
there
and
our
city
attorney
chris
jensen
reviews
all
of
these
contracts
where
we
take
them
to
council.
We've
got
a
lot
of
stop
gaps
in
there
and
safety
measures,
one
of
the
biggest
ones
being
the
you
know.
We
provide
plans
for
the
the
bid
process.
The
contractor
reviews,
those
plans
and
what's
on
the
plans,
is
what
they
have
to
build
and
yeah,
and
we
typically
have
progress
payments.
We
don't
pay
them,
we
don't
pay
them.
One
point
three
million
up
front.
B
Okay,
so
there
are
penalties
that
they
would.
If
they
don't
deliver,
they
either
don't
get
paid
or
they
will.
They
will
have
to
pay
some
kind
of
penalty
if
they
don't
deliver.
L
That's
correct:
they
they
won't
get
paid
and
if
they
don't
deliver
it
on
time,
there
are
the
potentials
for
penalties
at
the
end
of
the
projects
for
the
number
for
the
amount
of
time
they
go
beyond.
Contract
amount
contract.
A
lot
of
time.
B
I
think
I've
exhausted
all
my
questions
for
tonight
unless
somebody
else
has
thought
of
something
else.
If
not,
and
it
doesn't
look
like
any
hands
are
being
raised.
So
thank
you
very
much
ayano
susan
and
chad
for
putting
up
with
all
of
our
questions
and
with
that
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
topic.
I
guess
jessica.
G
So
next
we'll
have
the
jolly
man
park
all-inclusive
playground
and
I'd
like
to
invite
up
evelyn
moran
our
public
works
project
manager.
K
K
So
this
is
tonight's
agenda,
starting
with
introductions
to
the
project
team.
Like
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
melissa,
erickson
and
melissa
butler
and
myself.
We
have
been
working
on
the
playground,
the
all-inclusive
playground.
Then
we
will
go
through
the
overview
and
site
analysis
of
jolly
raymond
park,
followed
by
what
we
heard
from
the
community.
Then
we
will
discuss
the
playground,
design,
concepts
and,
lastly,
open
it
up
to
questions
and
comments
next
slide,
please.
K
So
this
is
the
project
timeline
and
it's
as
follows:
in
2018,
cupertino
authorizes
a
feasibility
study
for
an
all-inclusive
playground
in
2019,
santa
clara
county
was
awarded
awarded
cupertino
the
aipg
grant
in
2022.
The
design
and
fundraising
fundraising
phases
were
initiated
next
year.
We
anticipate
the
completion
of
the
final
design
construction
documents
followed
by
construction.
K
N
You
very
much
evelyn
appreciate
that
it
is
nice
to
see
everyone
and
give
you
a
chance
to
kind
of
get
an
overview
of
what
we're
about
to
put
out
for
the
public,
with
some
events
that
we
have
coming
up.
I
am
not
going
to
really
talk
about
mig,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
address
questions,
but
I
did
want
to
at
least
point
out
that
we've
been
working
on
all-inclusive
playgrounds
for
40
years.
N
Basically
from
our
very
beginning,
we've
literally
written
the
book
in
multiple
books
on
the
topic,
it's
something
near
and
dear
to
us,
and
we're
also
kind
of
unique
as
a
design
firm,
and
that
we
also
have
an
active
accessibility
practice
which
gives
us
a
very
robust
process
in
in
looking
at
the
type
of
playground
that
we
are
developing
here
at
gentlemen.
So
without
further
ado,
let's
just
make
sure
that
we're
talking
about
the
the
same
place
and
get
everyone
on
the
same
page.
N
So
we're
talking
about
jolly
man
and
kind
of
looking
at
its
general
context
within
the
city
of
cupertino
and
kind
of
the
range
of
neighborhoods
that
are
within
immediate
proximity
to
the
location
of
where
we,
this
playground
is
going
to
be
located
as
it
currently
is
set.
N
I'm
sure
you're,
all
quite
aware,
fairly
large
play
areas,
open
fields,
multi-purpose
existing
play
areas,
softball
fields,
existing
an
off-leash
dog
area
parking
and
then
two
separate
play
areas
that
are
currently
in
place,
and
we
are
specifically
going
to
be
looking
at
area
two
which
will
go
into
a
little
deeper
detail.
But
this
gives
you
some
basic
context
as
far
as
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
existing
components,
I'm
sure
most
of
you
are
quite
aware.
N
It
is
this
core
area
around
play
area,
two,
the
area
that
is
currently
the
five
to
twelve-year-old
play
area
that
we
are
focused
on
and
what
the
inclusive
grant
is
really
kind
of
charged
with
developing.
And
so
this
area
and
the
aerial
snapshot
is
the
key
area
that
we're
looking
at.
We
are
not
looking
at
the
other
play
areas
or
the
rest
of
the
park,
but
really
just
this
particular
area.
In
order
to
focus
the
play
efforts
there.
N
There
are
a
couple
of
high
level
project
goals.
We
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
are
stated
as
far
as
this
process.
This
is
all
ages
all
abilities
from
the
get-go.
It's
all
about
looking
at
cooperation
collaboration
the
chance
to
play
together,
but
is
looking
across
the
range
of
abilities,
including
the
autism
spectrum,
hearing,
mobility,
sensory
neurodivergent
components,
but
really
looking
at
that
whole
range,
whether
they're,
children,
the
caregivers,
the
people
that
are
with
them,
etc.
N
This
is
for
everyone,
and
that
is
really
kind
of
key
in
how
we're
developing
everything
moving
forward
with
in
the
packet.
We
included
some
additional
detail
about
community
surveys
that
have
been
processed
in
early
february.
We
started
out
with
giving
the
city
an
inclusive
primer,
talking
about
how
we
approach
inclusive
play
and
some
of
those
key
fundamentals
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
speaking
the
same
language,
we
had
an
online
survey
that
was
available
for
the
public,
which
will
do
some
high-level
summary
of
them
momentarily.
N
We
have
a
pop-up
event
at
gentleman
park
on
a
saturday
in
march
to
get
some
direct
response
from
folks
who
happen
to
be
on
site.
We
then
had
a
meeting
with
collaborators,
focusing
specifically
on
individual
caretakers
individuals,
working
with
programs
working
with
specially
abled
populations
to
get
some
more
focused
feedback
to
kind
of
ground
the
process
as
well,
and
then
we
had
a
pop-up
event
for
earth
day
to
get
some
additional
feedback.
N
All
of
that
has
been
kind
of
summarized
and
is
our
starting
point
as
we
look
towards
specific
efforts
and
moving
forward,
and
I
want
to
kind
of
take
a
high-level
summary
of
some
of
the
key
takeaways
that
we
have
from
that
process.
For
that
survey
we
had
308
respondents,
90
of
those
were
actually
residents
of
cupertino
and
55
live
within
a
15-minute
walk,
so
we
were
successful
in
getting
feedback
from
folks,
most
impacted
by
changes
and
improvements
at
the
park.
N
Almost
half
the
folks
identified
that,
but
keeping
that
sensory
art
color
as
part
of
it
and
so
looking
at
how
to
balance
those
two
is
kind
of
our
charge,
and
we
asked
some
questions
about
specific
types
of
activities.
Folks
are
most
interested
in
having
available
and
kind
of
the
the
three
that
really
kind
of
jump
to
the
top
is
climbing
sliding
and
swinging
not
that
that
excludes
anything
else.
N
Based
on
some
of
the
other
comments
we
received
from
the
collaborators
the
surveys
talking
with
city
staff,
but
really
trying
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
these
key
points
and
really
trying
to
take
a
look
at
these
being
foundational
to
what
needs
to
be
included
in
the
improvements
I
won't
read
through
all
of
them,
but
safety
opportunities
for
retreat
and
refuge.
A
broad
range
of
experiences,
including
challenge
risk,
is
still
key.
No
matter
your
ability,
but
having
a
range
of
opportunities
to
engage
in
those
activities,
is
really
critical.
N
With
that
we
took
that
feedback
looked
at
the
site,
some
of
the
different
components
and
came
up
with
two
different
alternatives
that
we
will
be
moving
and
presenting
to
the
public
to
get
additional
feedback
on
which
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through.
So
there
are
some
common
themes
in
both
of
the
alternatives
they
both
are
have
a
kind
of
a
combination
of
kind
of
an
organic,
more
naturalistic
look
and
feel
they
both
have
opportunities
for
nature
and
exploration.
N
They
all
have
climbing
sliding
and
swinging
the
three
main
activities.
We
certainly
heard
that
were
strongly
desired
for
this
area.
They
all
are
inclusive,
have
cooperative
play
opportunities,
allow
for
imaginative
play
and
have
sensory
art
and
color,
but
they're
expressed
in
slightly
different
ways.
N
N
N
In
both
options,
the
new
play
area
has
a
perimeter
fence,
so
it
is
enclosed.
This
is
particularly
helpful
for
those
on
the
autism
spectrum,
who
are
runners,
who
need
to
have
containment,
as
otherwise
they
will
run
across
the
open
fields
and
that's
certainly
a
concern.
N
They
both
have
a
secondary
entrance
towards
the
south
where
the
cul-de-sac
ends
so
there's
an
opportunity
for
a
second
entry
there.
They
both
have
internal
gathering
areas
within
the
play
area.
They
both
have
on
the
youth
side
a
slide
mountain
which
you'll
see
what
that
is,
swings
and
retreats,
and
then
the
tops
have
swings
and
treats
as
well
so
they're
kind
of
addressing
in
both
in
both
concepts.
N
We
are
changing
the
play
area
so
that
there
is
part
of
the
area
that
will
be
taught
five
to
twelve
and
part
of
it,
which
will
be
five
to
twelve
two
to
five
so
they're,
both
within
that
fenced
area,
so
essentially
we're
expanding
the
tot
with
some
of
the
improvements
that
are
being
provided.
N
So,
let's
talk
about
option
one,
for
you
can
see
a
faded
out
ariel
just
behind
this
is
existing
parking
area
that
is
off
to
the
left.
The
existing
five
to
two
area
is
just
to
the
north.
This
dashed
area
is
the
proposed
area
for
a
future
restroom
and
bike
parking,
and
this
is
the
main
entry
which
is
close
to
the
parking
there's
a
central
circulation
spine.
N
Roughly
the
left
side
is
the
youth
area
and
which
is
the
5
to
12,
and
roughly
the
right
side
is
addressing
the
tots
and
we're
going
to
do
a
deep
dive
kind
of
in
each
of
those.
You
can
see
a
little
bit
more
specifically
what
is
occurring.
N
But
then
you
enter
into
a
sliding
hill,
which
has
multiple
ways
for
people
to
engage
in
sliding,
including
sensory
with
rollers,
and
it
didn't
be
landing
for
people
to
pull
off
at
the
end,
a
more
conventional
slide,
the
chance
to
slide
actually
literally
on
the
surfacing
itself
alternative,
climbing
a
companion.
So
you
can
slide
down
with
someone.
There
is
a
stair
access
point,
as
well
as
an
accessible
route
that
connects
through
the
rest
of
the
play
area
and
providing
a
range
of
kind
of
scrambles
and
nets.
N
The
images
on
the
right
side
give
you
some
idea
of
what
those
might
look
like
as
far
as
kind
of
concepts
or
what
the
general
intent
is
in
those
areas
arch
would
be
incorporated
in
this
particular
area.
We
don't
know
what
the
shape
or
form
will
be
yet,
but
it
is
thought
that
it
was
going
to
play
off
the
idea
of
a
sun
as
we
look
through
kind
of
series
of
elements
and
playing
off
of
nature
throughout
the
area
as
we
move
south.
N
This
is
the
area
we're
calling
nicknaming
the
foothills,
and
this
is
where
the
swinging
is
included.
We
have
two
belt
swings,
two
molded
bucket
seats,
so
we
provide
for
a
range
of
abilities
and
those
that
need
additional
support.
There
is
a
larger
spinner
that
allows
for
multiple
folks
to
play
in
collaborative
play.
It's
also
accessible
something
similar
to
the
image
on
the
lower
right.
N
N
Benching
thought
that
they
might
be
wood
toppers
on
top
of
seat
walls
or
benches,
but
providing
ample
opportunity
for
that
to
be
included
and
a
variety
of
chances
with
the
planting
for
there
to
be
additional
scrambles
or
shortcuts
to
address
alternative
circulation
through
the
area
as
we
switch
to
the
taut
side-
and
this
is
the
entry
will
be
just
up
here-
here's
the
double
basket
swing.
The
main
path
comes
into
a
larger
picnic
area
for
gathering,
whether
it's
for
picnics
or
for
folks
that
have
birthday
parties,
then
having
a
tot
swing.
N
That
has
two
bucket
seats:
a
small,
more
natural
area,
we're
kind
of
calling
the
woods
for
terminology
that
allows
for
somewhat
paths
cutting
through
with
the
planting
areas.
Multiple
little
retreats
as
far
as
playhouses.
N
And
then,
as
we
move
to
the
southern
end.
This
is
the
area
we're
calling
the
creek
where
there
is
a
large
sand
in
water
play,
part
of
which
would
be
elevated
to
allow
for
wheelchair
access
rolled
up
to
and
be
able
to
play
within
we're
providing
this
area
with
a
nice,
very
textural
collaborative
play
that
allows
for
a
lot
of
interaction
between
folks
ample
seating,
a
small
little
stage
for
play,
a
variety
of
different
log,
steppers
and
informal
areas,
and
then
at
the
south
end
is
a
slight
little
entry
for
a
second
gateway.
N
That
would
also
be
fenced
that
allows
for
a
bioretention
swale,
which
we
will
require
to
address
which
it
can
also
be
included
as
far
as
another
natural
area
for
folks
to
engage
in
now
granted.
That
was
a
very
quick
overview
here.
It
is
kind
of
as
it
is
as
a
as
a
whole.
Again.
Some
of
the
things
I
want
to
address
is
included
within
this
is
also,
hopefully
the
sighting
of
a
future.
Restroom
is
a
separate
project.
Some
bike
racks.
N
Looking
at
that,
there
are
going
to
be
some
sidewalk
improvements
to
the
existing
sidewalk
to
address
some
slope
considerations
and
ensure
that
we
have
an
accessible
path
into
the
play
area,
both
for
the
new
entrance,
but
along
the
existing
path
and
looking
at
retaining
the
existing
basketball
court
as
it
is
in
place
in
this
particular
option,
while
providing
some
opportunities
for
additional
gathering
areas
and
pauses
at
the
entry
as
gathering
areas
and
a
larger
seating
area
internally
for
that
effort.
N
So
that
gives
you
an
overview
of
option,
one
that
we'll
be
moving
forward
with
and
then
we're
going
to
walk
through
option.
Two.
So
again,
here's
the
parking
area,
this
slightly
pulls
back
the
main
entry
a
little
bit
further
away
and
into
the
lawn
area,
so
it
pulls
that
a
little
bit
more
separated.
This
also
has
a
central
pathway
that
kind
of
connects
the
two
different
entrances
and
more
clearly
separates
the
youth
area
from
the
top
area.
N
On
this
one,
we
expand
the
area
to
include
the
basketball
court
to
give
us
some
additional
opportunity
to
interact
with
those
existing
redwoods
that
are
on
the
side
and
use
that
as
part
of
the
component
and
we'll
walk
through
this
one.
Just
like
we
did
the
other
one
and
kind
of
starting
with
the
upper
level.
N
So
starting
with
the
taut
area,
the
main
entrance
is
right.
Behind
the
the
little
legend
here,
you
immediately
come
into
slides,
which
would
have
a
variety
of
molded
accessible
seats
as
well
as
belt
seats,
a
low
retreat
center
again
having
a
slide
hill,
although
it's
a
slightly
different
configuration
but
again
allows
multiple
ways
for
people
to
engage
in
sliding
activities,
including
again
the
dignity
landings
with
the
sensory
slide,
a
more
traditional
slide,
alternative
options
collaborative
slide
opportunities.
N
This
also
has
a
steer
and
an
accessible
ramp,
just
like
the
otherwise,
but
slightly
different
configurations.
It
again
allows
for
scrambles
and
other
alternatives.
As
far
as
pathways
include
within
this
and
again,
images
are
of
example.
Ideas
are
included
on
the
right
hand
side
as
we
kind
of
progress
as
we
move
south
through
the
area.
N
The
art
in
this
there's
opportunities
for
there
to
be
a
chalk,
art
plaza
area
where
that
can
folks
can
use
that
for
components,
though
that
can
probably
happen
in
most
cases,
but
we're
looking
at
a
dedicated
space
here
for
that
to
potentially
occur.
N
Then,
as
we
move
to
the
the
tot
area,
as
you
can
notice,
the
swings
are
directly
adjacent
and
on
either
side
of
the
path.
So
the
taut
area
is
on
to
the
left
here.
We're
looking
at
the
the
belt
swings
a
larger
natural
area,
again
kind
of
the
forest
theater,
with
the
idea
of
having
some
drums
and
chimes
included
in
that
area
for
performance.
N
The
broader
space
allows
for
perhaps
some
more
robust
plantings
and
or
grass
mazes
opportunities
to
really
kind
of
advance
the
planting
within
that
component
and
addressing
a
wider
range
and
then,
as
we
move
further
south
to
the
southern
end,
instead
of
sand
and
water,
there's
a
larger
play
area
that
has
a
smaller
mound
with
an
accessible
ramp.
A
larger
structured
wall
to
help
us
address
that
grade
change
provides
another
opportunity
for
something
similar
to
this
type
of
embankment
slide
on
our
turf
hill,
with
some
mounds.
N
Some
log
jam
climbing
structure
of
some
components:
some
larger
boulders
for
kind
of
general,
climbing
and
slightly
smaller
picnic
area
as
the
internal
component.
Within
that,
as
we
move
kind
of
back
out,
and
we
look
at
it
again,
there's
two
entrances
one
to
the
north,
one
to
the
south.
The
south
location
is
roughly
the
same
in
both,
but
in
this
one
it's
slightly
pulled
into
the
park
a
little
bit
more
into
the
lawn
area.
N
Again,
still
looking
at
bike
parking
and
looking
at
potential
restroom
somewhere
closer
to
the
parking
lot
in
proximity
to
the
existing
play
area,
same
looking
at
improvements
along
the
accessible
path
to
ensure
that
that
path
provides
an
accessible
path
of
travel,
we
lose
the
basketball
court
in
this
one
by
trying
to
increase
the
space
and
provide
some
additional
alternatives
and
footprints
for
those
we
do
provide
an
additional
picnic
area
that
is
outside
the
player
in
addition
to
those
internally.
N
So
that
gives
you
a
very
kind
of
high
level
overview
of
the
two
seeing
them
next
to
each
other
again,
so
we
can
take
a
look
at
kind
of
that
overview
of
components
of
how
they
kind
of
work
within
the
space
one
pushes
slightly
further
north
into
the
existing
open
lawn
and
the
existing
mound
that
exists
in
the
space
and
option
two
expands
slightly
more
to
the
east
towards
the
basketball
court
and
encapsulates
that
into
the
overall
component.
N
In
summary,
there
are
a
couple
different
differences.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
point
out.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
two
different
concepts
for
the
public
to
take
a
look
at,
even
though,
essentially,
the
themes
are
very
similar,
but
there
are
some
specific
differences
that
we're
really
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
the
public
as
far
as
what
their
feedback
is
on
these
pieces.
N
So
in
one
the
basketball
court
remains
there's
a
larger
central
gathering
area
within
the
play
area
that
allows
for
a
picnic
and
gathering
the
entry
is
closer
to
parking
and
to
hopefully
the
restroom,
the
new
restroom
that
will
be
added
to
the
site
option.
One
has
two
of
the
nest
or
basket
swings
which
are
fairly
popular
and
they're
right
at
the
entry,
so
they're
a
clear
draw.
N
The
mountain
that
is
provided
is
slightly
taller,
given
what
we
can
accomplish
with
some
of
the
grades,
so
that
gives
some
opportunity
to
kind
of
stretch
the
money
in
some
cases,
because
we
don't
have
to
work
in
with
retaining
walls
as
significantly
our
handrails.
That
allows
us
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
on
the
art
front
for
different
components.
N
The
top
area
has
sand
and
water
which
is
not
included
in
option
two
and
then,
instead
of
a
large
climbing
area,
it's
more
of
a
mobile
rotating
climbing
collaborative
globe
spinner
in
concept,
one
in
concept,
two,
the
basketball
court
is
removed,
it's
a
half
court
and
so
we're
taking
over
that
space.
The
gathering
area
is
shifted,
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
internal
to
the
park.
The
nest
swing
there's
only
one
and
it's
from
the
other
areas.
N
The
overall
mountain
is
slightly
lower
in
elevation
to
address
some
of
that,
and
as
we
look
at
this,
some
of
the
retaining
walls
are
required
to
make
the
grade.
N
So
that
we
can
go
through
and
see
what
questions
you
have
as
far
as
feedback.
As
I
said,
these
are
the
two
concepts
that
we're
moving
forward
with.
We
have
a
public
survey
that
we'd
be
going
out
in
just
under
two
weeks
time.
N
We
have
a
pop-up
event
or
two
pop-up
events
for
me
that
are
coming
up
one
at
the
library
and
one
at
the
park
itself
again
coming
up
in
the
next
couple
weekends
to
take
a
look
at,
and
then
we
have
a
virtual
community
meeting,
and
so
all
of
these
are
going
to
be
formats
for
us
to
gain
additional
feedback
as
far
as
how
these
two
opportunities
and
concepts
pan
out
what
folks
are
really
interested
in
what
they'd
love
to
see
kind
of
morph
together,
as
we
come
with
a
consolidated
opportunity,
and
with
that,
I
will
temporarily
pause,
I'm
sure
we'll
have
to
pull
these
back
up
so
that
we
can
pull
them
up
for
a
discussion.
N
I
think
one
of
the
main
things
we
were
hoping
today
is,
as
I
said,
we
have
a
community
survey
that
is
about
to
go
live.
I
think
we're
scheduled
to
go
live
on
the
14th.
If
I'm
gonna
correct
me,
if
I'm,
I
remember,
risk
remembering
the
date
evelyn
but
to
that
end,
okay,
thank
you.
One
of
the
things
that
would
be
helpful
for
us
as
we're
kind
of
crafting.
N
That
is,
if
there
is
specific
feedback
that
you
would
like
to
get
from
the
public
that
we
can
bring
back
to
this
entity
as
far
as
thoughts
concerns.
If
there's
anything
in
specific
that
you
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
answered
and
or
ask
of
the
community,
that
would
be
great.
We
also
hope
that
you
will
continue
to
pass
on
to
all
your
networks.
N
The
survey
links
as
it
comes
available
and
and
notice
of
those
events,
so
we
continue
to
get
additional
feedback,
because
we
are
very
excited
to
see
where
this
goes
and
kind
of
see
what
comes
of
the
next
version
based
on
community
feedback,
and
with
that
I
will
pass
it
back
and
happy
to
answer
questions.
B
B
H
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much
for
a
very
detailed
presentation
really
really
I
define.
I
appreciate
that
so
I
heard
initially
you
said
that
the
initial
option-
one
is
what
you're
going
with.
Did
I
misunderstand
and
then
later
on,
I
heard
that
you're
getting
putting
a
survey
out
and
getting
people's
views.
So
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
about
the
decision-making
stage.
N
Sure,
no,
we
are
presenting
both
concepts
to
the
public.
It's
just
that,
based
on
the
feedback
we
get
from
the
online
survey,
the
two
pop-up
events
and
the
community
workshop
we'll
then
be
taking
all
that
feedback,
plus
whatever
feedback
you
give
us
and
then
coming
up
with
a
preferred
concept.
That's
going
to
move
forward
for
construction
and
looking
at
costing
so
both
of
these
are
are
viable
and
are
going
to
be
going
out
to
the
public
to
get
feedback.
N
It's
going
to
be
a
virtual
workshop,
so
we'll
be
walking
them
through
a
similar
presentation,
as
we
just
did
with
you,
maybe
with
a
slightly
different
information
or
more
detail
on
some
of
the
play
components
and
we'll
be
asking
for
some
additional
feedback.
As
far
as
what
they're
looking
for
priorities
to
a
certain
extent,
areas
that
they
and
particularly
really
enjoy.
N
Ideally
just
take
that.
So
we
can
have
some
additional
feedback
that
we
can
then
use,
and
it's
not
necessarily
going
to
be
one
or
two
that
moves
forward.
But
it's
probably
going
to
be
some
new
piece
that
takes
aspects
of
each
of
those
and
becomes
the
design
that
moves
forward.
H
Yeah
and
who
will
be
the
participants
for
these,
that
you
will
be
inviting.
N
It
will
be
open
to
all
of
cupertino,
it's
a
totally
open
public,
and
hopefully
a
lot
of
folks
will
be
coming
in.
The
survey
will
be,
you
know,
advertise
to
the
city
and
address
there
and
again
hoping
that
we
just
get
a
lot
of
feedback.
As
I
said,
with
the
last
online
survey,
we
had
about
308
respondents
and
90
were
cupertino
residents,
we're
hoping
we
get
something
similar
and
hopefully
more
because
it's
always
easier
when
they
actually
have
something
specific
to
look
at
versus
kind
of
a
more
general.
N
N
I
don't
know
if
I
know
exactly,
but
I
think
it
was
probably
something
like
about
5
000
like
a
spitball
guess
on
cost.
The
main
cost
usually
on
surveys
is
getting
the
materials
and
the
graphics
for
it,
and
then
it's
really
doing
the
analysis
on
the
back
end
and
tabulating
it,
especially
if
you
have
open-ended
questions
and
then
trying
to
kind
of
pull
that
together,
but
that's
kind
of
a
rough
guess.
N
B
Please
go
ahead
and
for
future
reference,
if
I've
gotten
so
quiet
and
I'm
staring
somewhere
else,
it's
because
I'm
looking
at
my
internet
connection.
I
Absolutely
very
kind
of
mind-blowing
the
designs
and
stuff.
Thank
you,
melissa
and
both
of
us
here,
because
I
was
trying
to
write
who
are
those
two
ministers.
So
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
have
many
questions.
Maybe
I
will
try
to
summarize
on
few
and
then
maybe
you
might
end
up
into
the
discussion
side
of
it
number
one.
I
Do
you
plan
to
put
any
of
those
prototypes
or
anything
which
you
might
have
already
had?
I
know
you
said
that
you
have
40
years
of
experience.
I
I'm
sure
that
you
may
have
some
prototype,
because
it's
sometime
it's
for
us,
I'm
just
trying
to
visualize
the
art
and
how
it
is
it's
since
we
I
haven't
seen
one
so
maybe
I
should
go
ahead
and
visit
the
other
places
in
sunnyvale
and
other
mountain
view
and
other
places
you
have,
but
is
there
a
possibility
that
you
plan
to
have
any
prototype
in
the
community,
evens
and
stuff
or
those
two
events
on
18th
and
25th?
N
We
wouldn't
have
any
prototypes
of
equipment
there.
What
we
will
have
is
at
the
pop-up
events,
we'll
have
two
printouts.
You
know
one
of
each
of
the
plans,
so
we
can
talk
through
folks
kind
of
what's
included,
it's
really
more
discussion
and
we're
still
kind
of
pulling
together,
but
the
pop-ups
are
really
going
to
be
more
another
chance
for
people
to
actually
kind
of
see
the
plans
larger
and
get
some
direct
feedback
and
actually
engage
in
conversation.
That's
really
kind
of
the
point
for
the
pop-ups.
I
I
assume
okay,
so
the
next
question
is
that
you
talked
about
the
basketball
court
being
removed
on
the
option
two,
but
one
day
when
I
look
into
it,
I'm
sure
that's
like
we
are
depriving
the
benefits
of
one
set
of
people
who
actually
do
it
so
by
default,
looks
like
people
will
not
even
go
there
the
option
to
because
option
two:
you
are
compromising
something
which
is
also
actively
used
for
the
benefit
of
something
else.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
counter
like
this
kind
of
forces
are
to
move
into
the
option.
C
I
can
just
mention
thank
you
that
if
the
basketball
court
is
moved,
we
definitely
would
have
to
find
another
location
for
that
use
at
the
park
because
it
is
actually
well
used.
So
we'd
have
to
address
that.
I
N
I
K
I
think
we
should
point
out
that
option
two,
where
the
basketball
area
is
located,
that
doesn't
have
any
water
components,
so
that
could
be
something
that
could
be
incorporated
into
concept
one.
If
the
public
decides
that
water
concepts
are
not
something
that
they're
interested
in
yeah.
I
I
I
see
it
in
the
picture,
but
is
that
for
looking
at
it,
it
seems
to
be
very
dangerous
for
the
kid
even
the
kid
in
the
floor
coming
around
if
it
was
really
a
hard
rock
or
something
is
that
if
they
choose
to
do
it,
would
that
be
the
kind
of
a
model
of
the
staircase.
I
I
A
N
Yeah,
we
actually
do
this
fairly,
often
and
that's
kind
of
what
this
little
section
is
it's
a
little
bolder
scramble.
Instead
of
stairs,
we
have
stairs
on
the
side
with
handrails.
We
do
this
often,
I
think,
we've.
Actually,
I
can't
say
I've
done
those
for
40
years,
but
I
think
we've
done
them
for
at
least
35.,
but
it's
really
kind
of
a
great
flexible
space,
because
it's
a
great
texture.
It
allows
for
people
to
kind
of
lay
lounge.
N
I
I
think
okay
yeah
in
the
front
loop
itself.
It
looks
like
dangerous
for
the
kd
one.
So
that's
why
I
asked
the
question
so
the
other
one
is
when
you
have.
You
talked
about
mountain
slide
and
also
normal
slides.
I
saw
in
the
picture.
So
is
it?
When
you
have
a
mountain
slides,
then
you
will
not
have
the
magnet
flights
or
you
will
have
both.
I
A
I
The
other
one
is
on
the
restrooms.
You
talked
about
it.
I
know
it's
on
the
outside
in
both
one
for
accessibility
side,
but
that's
the
common
dress
show
which
is
for
anyone,
not
just
for
the
people.
Yes,
one
right.
N
Yeah
and
correct-
and
let
me
just
talk
about
the
restroom
briefly-
the
existing
restroom,
which
is
kind
of
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
park
to
the
to
the
northwest
corner
that
will
remain,
and
there
are
some
improvements
there
that
are
are
going
to
be
required.
However,
we
have
kind
of
talked
about
the
fact
that
having
a
restroom
that
is
closer
to
the
play
areas
in
general
is
advantageous.
You
know
a
little
kids,
don't
have
much
warning
system,
but
the
thought
is.
N
It
would
be
another
public
restroom
that
doesn't
fall
within
the
purview
of
this
budget,
but
it's
something
that
the
city
is
looking
at,
whether
there
might
be
some
additional
funds
to
look
at
it
would
be
probably
separate,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
it
and
susan.
I
will
pass
off
to
you.
C
Thank
you.
It
is
a
feature
that
would
serve
this
playground
immensely
well,
it
would
serve
the
community
that
comes
to
this
playground
very
well
it
it
isn't
in
the
budget
right
now,
so
we
have
actually
gone
and
included
in
our
cip
proposal
for
for
fiscal
year
2223
as
a
a
new
project,
we'd-
probably
folded
into
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
this
playground,
but
we
needed
to
get
separate
funding.
Yeah
yeah.
C
Anybody
could
use
it,
it
would
definitely
be
made
for
all
abilities.
I
Got
it?
Thank
you
and
the
last
one
is
that
in
the
survey
of
the
308,
maybe
two
questions.
The
survey
on
the
308
respondents
with
90
percent.
There
are
40
and
39.
I
just
want
to.
J
I
N
Right-
and
that
was
something
we
were
very
excited
about-
that
is
often
not
the
case,
but
to
have
such
a
high
number
of
respondents
who
either
themselves
are
experiencing
that
or
have
or
someone
they
take
care
of,
does,
I
think,
further
grounds.
The
findings
as
far
as
really
hitting
the
audience
that
we're
specifically
trying
to
make
sure
feel
welcome.
I
Okay,
the
question
is
again:
hopefully
this
survey
will
also
attract
other
kids
who
even
want
to
play
with
these
kids
and
stuff.
So
it
looks
like
I
maybe
maybe
I
read
it,
it's
great
response,
but
I'm
not
sure
whether
the
outreach
has
reached
those
people
or
they
may
thought
that.
Oh,
it's
not
for
me,
it's
all
inclusive
like
it's,
not
for
me
or
kind
of
so
that's
the
question
I
want
to
understand.
N
No
because
the
whole
point
is
we
don't
necessarily
want
anyone
to
have
to
self-identify
as
having
certain
abilities
or
not.
This
is
for
anyone
and
we
don't
want
you
to
feel
separate
or
or
not
equal,
and
so
I
think
to
the
end,
everyone
should
feel
something
interesting,
which
is
why
we
want
to
make
sure
there.
N
There
is
art,
to
the
extent
that
we
can,
that
there
is
nature
opportunities
to
collaborate
to
have
things
that
are
different
to
have
surprises
to
have
those
details,
so
that
no
matter
where
you
are
on
any
of
those
you
know
the
abilities.
You
know
at
some
point
we
will
all
have
probably
some
limitation,
whether
it's
temporary
or
not
so
yeah.
To
that
end,
it
is
for
everyone,
so
no
we're
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
everyone.
I
Excellent,
thank
you
and
the
last
question
for
now
is
you
said
in
the
top
area,
the
water
and
the
sand
play.
It
is
in
the
option,
one
but
not
correct,
correct
okay,
so
no
water
play
or
any
of
those
plates
just
correct
yep.
N
Yep
we
want
to
make
sure
there
were
differences,
and
so
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
people
say:
we're
huge
proponents
of
sand
and
water
play.
It
is
a
great
return
as
far
as
time
and
the
length
of
time
people
stay
in
a
park
when
there
is
that,
but
it
might
be
that
that's
not
what
the
folks
want
to
have.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
included
and
then
kind
of
see
what
people
respond.
I
H
You
very
much
vice
chair
baker.
I
had
a
few
follow-up
questions
to
piggyback
on
what
commissioner
kumarapan
was
saying.
I
I
understand
that
you
don't
have
a
prototype.
I
saw
some
pictures.
Are
those
pictures
indicative
of
some
of
the
structures
that
are
going
to
be
there?
Yes
right?
Okay,
so
that
is
what
you're
referring
to
as
something.
Okay.
H
Second
part
is:
I
understand
that
you
have
the
water
structure
in
option
one,
but
not
in
option
two,
but
in
option
two,
you
are
eliminating
the
basketball
court
and
what
I
heard
is
that
it
will
be
repositioned
somewhere
else
and
you'll
find
another
location.
H
N
C
Those
are
very
good
questions.
We
don't
have
the
answers
at
this
point
yeah.
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
be
prepared,
but
the
design
concepts
have
been
presented
in
a
way
to
engender
responses
about
the
playground
itself,
and
if
the
public
wishes
to
take
over
that
area
for
this
playground,
we
will
have
to
balance
that,
with
the
reality
of
the
costs
and
implications
of
what
do
we
do?
C
C
Yeah,
it's
a
big
deal,
so
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up,
but
we
wanted
to
put
it
out
there
to
make
sure
that
people
had
a
an
ability
to
say
yes
or
no
to
that
kind
of
experience.
Right.
H
H
Second
question
I
have:
is
people
may
like
parts
of
your
option
too
and
may
like
parts
of
option
one,
so
is
it
that
they
only
get
a
chance
to
say
they
get
start
of
one
or
they
get
start
of
two.
For
example,
they
might
like
a
lot
of
the
elements
of
two
or
they
may
like
many
of
the
elements
of
one,
but
not
one.
The
order
structure
is
there
in
your
survey
options
that
you
offer
so
you
can
mix
and
match,
and
people
can
then
eventually
can
come
up
with
a
third
option
altogether.
H
N
Yeah,
we
fully
expect
that
I
mean
we're
still
actually
writing
the
survey.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
helpful
question,
so
we
can
think
about
how
best
to
kind
of
get
that
response,
because
we
fully
expect
that
people
might
have
a
preference
for
one
of
them,
but
want
something,
that's
in
the
other
and
so
we're
going
to
craft
that.
N
So
we
can
kind
of
better
understand
kind
of
what
those
trade-offs
are
and
even
some
of
the
individual
components
and
are
raking
their
top
items
that
they'd
like
to
see
included
so
that
we
can
take
that
and
then,
of
course,
we'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
that
budget
impact
and
or
the
space
requirements.
But
are
we
fully
expect
that
neither
one
nor
two
will
likely
move
forward
without
some
change
and
it
might
be
some
combination
of
them.
It
might
be
closer
to
one
or
the
other.
N
We
just
don't
know,
but
we're
looking
forward
to
having
people,
let
us
know
kind
of
where
they
land
on
that.
H
I
I
Just
finish
that
with
that
question,
so
this
is
kind
of
what
comes
in
attached
on
it.
The
survey.
I
know
it's
happening
on
18th
and
25th,
not
the
survey.
The
survey
is
starting
from
june
to
july,
and
then
you
have
in
between
two
events
and
then,
when
you
plan
to
go
back
feedback
to
the
community
that
hey.
This
is
what
we
heard,
and
this
is
what
we
have
come
up
with
it.
What
is
the
timeline
that
you
will
respond
back
to
them
and
say
hey?
This
is
what
we
want
to
do.
I
K
Did
you
want
to
go
yes,
so
once
we
complete
the
three
community
events
we'll
take
all
of
the
information
that
we,
the
public
has
provided,
including
your
your
feedback
and
mig,
will
provide
we'll,
provide
a
third
concept,
and
then
we
will
be
going
to
the
public
updating
commissioners
and
the
public
in
september.
B
All
right,
I
have
one
more
question.
They've
asked
all
the
questions
I
had
in
mind,
but
I
have
one
more
question
so
or
rather
a
suggestion,
and
that
is
that,
instead
of
saying
in
the
in
the
two
you're
going
to
say,
remove
the
basketball
coat,
but
is
it
possible
to
say
maybe
move
the
basketball
coat
or.
A
B
Suggest
to
the
public
that
there
is
the
option
that
if
we
go
with
the
two
as
it
is,
we
will
remove
it.
However,
do
you
want
us
to
keep
the
basketball
court
because
I
suspect
the
answer
will
be?
Yes,
we
want
the
basketball
court
moved
now.
The
question
then
becomes
okay,
how
much
money
do
we
have
and
all
of
that
good
stuff
which
we
can
you
know
discuss
later,
but
I
would
imagine
that
we
need
to
mention
that
there's
a
possibility
for
it
to
be
moved.
Of
course,
at
a.
N
B
B
It's
not
the
concept
we're
trying
to
get
at
the
other
thing
is:
when
you
have
the
survey,
can
you
include
any
locations
of
the
existing
all-inclusive
playgrounds
in
the
local
bay
areas
so
that
people
can
go
and
see
how
it
look
and
feel
because
you're,
obviously
not
providing
a
paper
model
of
any
kind
or
a
paper
mache
model
for
that
matter?
So
it's
easier
to
see
it.
You
know
if
somebody's
interested,
they
don't
nobody
has
to.
But
if
you
provide
that
information
it
might
be
useful
to
people
in
general.
I.
N
B
Okay,
okay,
all
right
looks
like
commissioner
swami
has
another
question.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
I
hear
what
why
you
are
hesitant
to
doing
that
melissa,
but-
and
I
think
it
will
be
really
helpful,
though,
to
include
if
not
the
prototype
I
can
understand
can
be
expensive
for
you
to
put
together,
but
how
about
putting
together
pictures
of
the
equipment
type
or
what
it
might
entail
and
how
that
is
different
and
what
some
of
the
benefits
can,
because
you
know
it's
all
in
your
mind
and
in
the
minds
of
the
designers,
but
we
are.
Obviously
people
cannot
open
your
brain
to
see.
H
H
What
am
I
getting
in
a
that
is
so
much
dramatically
different
from
b
other
than
the
fact
that
I'm
losing
a
basketball
court
in
option
b
and
with
some
water
structure
in
a
so?
It's
not
entirely
clear
in
my
mind,
which
is
why
I
think,
commissioner,
vice
chair,
baker
is
also
trying
to
say:
hey.
Is
there
any
other
part
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
to
maybe
get
a
better
sense
of
it?
Picture
speaks
a
thousand
words
right,
so
I'm
not
saying
you
don't
have
it
in
your
head
and
it's
not
great.
K
Might
I
add
there
might
be
a
way
for
me
to
log
on
to
our
engaged
cupertino
website
and
I
can
pinpoint
the
locations
in
an
interactive
map
for
locations
within
the
south
bay.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
looking
at
other
all
inclusive
areas,
I
can't
do
that.
B
H
Right
and
last,
but
not
the
least
one
question
only
because
of
my
ignorance,
I
I'm
going
to
bring
an
analogy
to
play
and
ask
your
feedback
if
it
is
at
all
possible.
For
example,
if
somebody
is
going
to
design
our
kitchen,
they
just
create
this
3d
model.
For
us
right,
I'm
not
saying
create
a
prototype
for
us,
but
is
there
a
kind
of
a
3d
model
kind
of
a
picture
that
you
could
present?
People
could
go
to
and
take
a
look
at.
N
N
As
we
come
back
to
you,
after
we've
kind
of
heard
this
feedback,
there
will
be
some
additional
like
a
3d
rendering
that
will
be
part
of
it
to
help
kind
of
better
envision.
What
that
space
is
going
to
be
like,
and-
and
I
am
sorry
when
I
heard
you
say
prototype-
I
immediately
thought
of
like
a
mock-up
of
actually
equipment
versus
actually
thinking
about
a
so.
I
misunderstood
what
you
meant
by
prototype.
N
You
meant
just
a
virtual
model,
so
we
won't
be
doing
a
full
model
of
this
that
wasn't
part
of
what
was
kind
of
included
in
the
budget,
but
we
will
have
some
additional
renderings
and
we
can
certainly
provide
some
additional
imagery
about
some
of
the
equipment
to
help
make
that
kind
of
understanding
piece,
I
will
say
one
of
the
tricky
parts
is
that
equipment
is
not
what
this
is
really
about.
N
It's
really
about
the
experience
and
that's
kind
of
an
immersive
component,
so
you
know
I
will
say
that
there's
a
range
of
inclusive
play
areas
out
there
there
offer
a
broad
range.
This
is
going
to
be
immersive
so,
but
I
I
understand
where
you're
you're
getting
at
and
we'll
look
at
getting
at
least
a
little
bit
more
work
within
that.
C
C
What's
been
the
presentation
and
to
melissa's
point,
it
helps
so
much
to
have
the
person
to
walk
you
through
what
these
are,
because
the
the
mit
team
has
such
great
experience
with
doing
these
types
of
parks,
playgrounds
in
other
areas,
so
they
bring
that
to
life,
and
so
that's
what
we're
looking
forward
to
in
terms
of
the
pop-ups
the
goals
of
the
pop-up,
as
well
as
the
other
community
events,
to
have
that
engagement
in
that
level.
B
So
this
was
just
the
question
answer
part.
We
still
have
the
discussion.
So
unless
you
specifically
have
a
question,
commissioner
swami,
let
me
just
take
it
to
the
one.
H
It's
it's
the
important
one
about
the
basketball
court.
Will
people
have
the
option
of
saying,
retain
the
basketball
court
and
reduce
the
space
for
the
inclusive
playground?
Is
that
another
option
that
we
are
providing
or
is
it
only
that
we
choose
one
two
and
that's
it
we'll.
N
B
So
we
have,
we
do
have
one
attendee
so
if
she
hasn't
raised
her
hand,
but
if
there
is
no
one
else,
I'd
actually
like
to
turn
the
meeting
back
to
our
chair,
mina,
zhu
who's
joined
us
just
now
jessica.
Can
you
make
her
the
co-host
or
how
does
it
work?
I
will
do
that
right
now.
Okay,
then
we
can
get
into
the
the
actual
discussion.
A
O
Yeah
so
make
it
update.
So
when
the
current
stage
is
a
public
comments,
agenda
atom
regarding
the
jolly
man
park
or
inclusive
playground,
yes,.
B
Ahead
and
allow
the
allow.
M
M
Hi,
everyone
and
mina
nice
to
meet
you
just
so
you
know,
I'm
speaking
in
full
transparency,
also
as
the
fine
arts
member
of
the
fine
arts
commission.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
say
I
applaud
how
holistic
plan
two
is
and
and
what
you
guys
are
are
presenting.
M
I
think
one
warning
word
of
warning
is
that
when
you
guys
are
soliciting
feedback
from
the
community
that,
when
you
guys
are
doing
it
is
going
to
be
critical,
meaning
if
you
ask
at
a
9
00
a.m,
weekday
versus
a
saturday,
you
know
morning
or
afternoon,
you're
going
to
get
different
audiences
who
are
going
to
be
oriented
around
different
things
who
are
going
to
be
drawn
to
different
aspects.
M
A
M
Things
that
you
know,
I
think
anybody
who
frequents
playgrounds
have
seen
quite
commonly.
I
was
more
curious
about
how
we
were
going
to
kind
of
up
level.
It
in
terms
of
you
know
not
just
the
the
play
equipment
as
equipment
per
se,
but
play
equipment,
slash
art
play,
equipment,
slash,
audio
auditory,
kind
of
engagement,
you
know,
and
what
level
do
you
or
does
this?
M
The
art
aspect
of
this
playground
need
to
kind
of
sync
up
with
or
how
can
the
fine
arts
commission
support
and
drive
that
so
that
it
becomes
the
leading
edge
playground
for
not
just
cupertino,
but
in
the
area.
N
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
conversation
to
see
what
else
you
can
provide
to
to
help
do
that.
We
have
a
lot
of
ideas,
but
we
have
to
hear
from
the
community,
and
so
I
think,
trying
to
take
a
look
at
how
that
gets,
manifested
and
the
different
ways.
It's
articulated
will
kind
of
come
out
of
this
process,
but
we
would
love
to
if
you've
got
some
additional
funding.
That
could
help
us
kind
of
push
the
art
piece.
N
That
would
be
lovely,
but
certainly
I
think
it's
the
powering
details,
and
sometimes
it's
the
little
things
that
really
can
make
that
difference
to
kind
of
just
keep
advancing
and
provide
those
additional
levels
so
that
there's
something
new
you
find
every
time
you
come,
which
is
the
other
thing
we
want
to
try
and
take
a
look
at,
but
yeah.
M
I
mean,
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
me,
but
I
was
clearly
a
very
passionate
parent
about
this
and
I
do
and
that's
why
I
think
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
people
may
not
know
of.
Maybe
their
children
are
much
older,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
being
able
to
kind
of
show
the
parents
who
are
knowledgeable
about
this,
you
know
what
are
we
providing
to
them?
M
That
is
really
unpredictable
next
level
in
terms
of
not
just
a
bike
rack,
but
a
bike
rack
that
is
a
sculpture,
for
example,
or
a
handrail.
That's
a
snake
right
that
you
know
just
all
kind
of
like
next
level.
You
know
I
I
don't
know,
and
I
understand
budget,
but
in
terms
of
you
know
what
other
ways
you
know
we
can
show
support
or
help
push
that
to
the
next
bar.
No.
O
Oh
so
now
we
start
the
comments
on
commissioner
side
and
thank
you
carol
for
your
inputs,
yeah.
We
do
need
community
support
to
complete
this
project
and
thank
you,
okay,
and
I
see
commissioner
kumarapan
has
something
to
say.
I
Thank
you,
chad,
so
it
is,
I
think,
related
to
the
the
topic,
the
last
one,
which
is
about
the
prototype
or
3d
model
or
whatever.
I
think
one
I
won't
say
concern,
but
I
think
a
challenge
for
anyone
is
even
just
seeing
a
picture
of
it
and
trying
to
visualize
it.
So
is
it
I'm
sure
that,
since
based
on
your
experience,
you
might
have
done
just
those
structures.
For
example,
you
talked
about
the
slide
mountain.
I
How
does
it
look
like
just
alone
it
need
not
be
put
in
in
a
prototype
and
say
this
is
how
it
is
exactly
now,
but
at
least
sometimes
it'll
be
easy
for
people
to
come
and
take
a
look
at
it
even
in
a
table
if
I
just
walk
around
and
then
if
I
see
that
one
okay,
this
is
what
we
call
slime.
Oh
you
see
it,
but
this
is
how
it
looks.
I'm
sure
that
the
manufacturers,
based
on
all
your
experience
they
might
have
given
you
prototypes
or
some
samples
or
whatever
the
the
mini
model.
I
I
would
say
it
will
be
good
to
have
at
least
those
things,
because
we
don't
have
any
side
mountains
at
all
unless
otherwise,
maybe
in
some
places,
but
we
don't
so
people
will
be
good
before
people
say.
Oh,
that's,
that's
that's
nice
and
also
the
one
with
the
steel
one.
I
think
I'm
not
sure
what
you
call
the
desk.
It's
in
a
cone
shape.
I'm
not
sure
what
is
that
one
melissa,
but
people
can
play
music
or.
I
The
times
yeah
time
so,
but
is
that,
like
a
too
hot,
like
I'm
just
looking
at
it,
when
I
again
I'm
a
little
bit
on
the
safety
side
on
the
little
kids?
Is
it
will
it
get
hot
in
the
summer?
And
so
people
can
touch
it?
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out
what
kind
of.
N
It
will
be
if
it's
not
properly
cited
so
where
it's
located
to
make
sure
that
there
is
shade
to
address
that
is
going
to
be
really
critical.
Just
like
the
slide
elements
and
its
orientation,
all
those
things
are
going
to
be.
You
know
a
key
part
of
the
design
to
help
address
the
fact
that
it
gets
very
hot
in
cupertino.
So,
okay.
I
And
a
couple
of
other
points
just
to
highlight
the
the
it's
a
school
just
got
over
for
everyone.
It's
a
summer
break.
I
think
we
are
doing
the
the
survey
at
this
time.
I'm
sure
that
many
people
will
have
their
own
plans,
I'm
not
sure,
even
on
weekends,
as
one
of
the
other
community
members
pointed
out,
definitely
not
on
the
weekdays,
but
even
the
weekends,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
crowd
we
are
going
to
get
it.
I
So
do
you
have
any
threshold
to
set
that
and
we
need
to
get
so
much
of
it
right.
For
example,
you
got
a
300
on
what
is
that
380
308?
You
got
it
the
first
one,
but
this
one
is
much
more
important.
Do
you
do
you
have
any
threshold
that
you
want
to
get
a
minimum?
Otherwise
you
push
out
by
another
survey
or
another
thing
with
the
later
or
extend
the
survey.
Or
how
do
you
officially.
N
We
don't
have
a
number
in
mind,
but
I
think
if
the
turnout
is
really
low,
that
we
would
have
a
discussion
with
evelyn
and
team.
However,
that
said
we
do
have
some
specific
time
frames
associated
with
the
grant
funding,
which
is
another
thing
that
we're
up
against
and
overnight
must
I
mean
that's
what
you
were
going
to
speak
to.
I
K
So
santa
clara
county
was
gracious
enough
to
allow
an
extension,
but
in
discussions
with
them
assigning
the
agree,
the
amendment
to
the
agreement,
they
are
not
willing
to
extend
the
deadline.
K
So
we
have
to
have
this
project
completed
by
april,
I'm
sorry
by
june
of
2024,
and
that
means
including
reimbursement
submittals
ahead
of
time,
so
that
that's
really
making
our
schedule
pretty
tight
to
meet
that
deadline.
I
Okay,
yeah,
because,
though
the
timing
as
well
as
not
having
enough
visual
cue,
which
will
would
impact
the
that's
my
opinion,
based
on
working
with
all
the
community
members
for
so
many
years.
Definitely
here
a
lot
of
people
are
visual
oriented
and
they
want
to
see
it
and
yeah
and
do
it
and
then
the
timing,
so
that
is
kind
of
working
against
this
fantastic,
correct
kind
of
one.
So
that's
what
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
it.
I
mean.
K
If
we
get
to
a
point
where
we're
not
able
to
submit
reimbursement,
that
money
will
just
be
released
back
to
santa
clara
county,
the
grant
is
1.4
million
dollars
with
the
city
match.
So
we
have
to
produce
a
3.6
million
dollar
project
in
order
to
meet
the
grant
requirements.
So
if,
but
you
know,
things
come
up
and
we're
not
able
to
produce
that
whatever
funds
that
we
don't
expend
will
be
reimbursed,
I
will
be
given
back
to
the
county,
so
the
rest
will
have
to
come
from
city
funds.
I
Yeah,
I
know
definitely
we
don't
want
to
go
to
that
stage
at
all.
I
don't
even
think
about
it,
that's
okay,
so
that
means
looks
like
we
need
to
amp
up
our
advertising
or
outreach
to
the
public
and
to
talk
about
it,
saying
that
this
is
a
must-have
to
be
done
on
this
and
then
there
into
this
really
really
important.
So
we
need
to
amp
up
it.
Okay,
thank
you
for
now.
So
that's
all
chair
again.
B
K
Specifics
for
the
design
or
the
fundraising-
either
I
mean
so-
we
started
actually
yeah
so
for
design.
We
started
january
of
this
year
and
we'll
continue
on
to
next
year
in
june.
That's
when
our
final
construction
documents
will
be
complete,
bidding
support.
We,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
putting
this
out
to
bid
during
the
summer
time,
with
anticipation
of
contract
award
and
things
like
that
in
construction
during
the
summer
time
into
the
following
year.
K
For
fundraising,
we
have
we
started
fundraising
november
of
next
last
year,
but
we've
had
some
hiccups.
We
are
working
through
the
the
campaign
plan
at
this
at
right
now
and
we
are
also
working
with
it
on
having
an
online
payment
portal
that
will
go
through.
We
can
fundraise
from
now
until
construction,
the
the
start
of
construction,
but
typically
the
public
is
more
prone
to
donate
before
construction
starts,
because
during
construction
time
well,
you
already
have
funds,
so
we'll
continue
up
until
next
year.
Sure.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
you
mentioned
some
numbers:
1.4
million
was
that
what
the
grant
was
and
we're
still
looking
for
the
remaining
one
point
whatever
yes
and
that
is
not
working,
but.
L
K
B
Okay:
okay,
one
million
dollars
fundraising
rules.
So
now,
if,
let's
just
say
magically,
we
get
this
one,
this
1
million
so
we'll
have
a
total
budget
of
4.6
million.
B
Now,
at
the
start
of
construction,
the
santa
clara
valley,
whatever
santa
clara
county,
going
to
give
us
the
1.4
and
just
say,
okay,
move
on
with
life
or
do
we
do
they?
Do
we
build
them?.
K
So
most
of
the
grant
is
towards
the
construction
of
the
play
equipment.
So
we
would
submit
an
invoice
and
with
documentation,
invoicing
and
things
like
that
that
the
city
has
paid
up
front
ahead
of
ahead
of
the
grant
and
then
we
would
submit
for
reimbursement
with
documentation.
K
Then
the
santa
clara
county
will
come
back
and
provide
a
check
to
the
city
to
deposit
into
our
fund.
B
Okay,
so
I
guess,
then,
the
question
goes
now
to
the
to
melissa
and
melissa.
From
your
perspective,
assuming
we
do
a
plan
one.
What
do
you
expect
will
be
the
cost
of
building
that
play
structure.
N
We
are
right
now
thinking
both
can
be
done
for
the
budget
that
the
city
has,
which
is
the
3.6,
give
or
take
a
little
less.
You
know
I
will
say
that
construction
right
now
is
incredibly
difficult
and
until
you
actually
get
bids
you
don't
know,
and
so
we're
trying
to
build
in
a
bit
of
a
cushion
within
there
and
I
think
specific
materials.
The
amount
of
custom
work
into
carol's
point
art.
You
know,
that's
anything,
that's
custom
kind
of
becomes
a
scheduling
consideration,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
clearly
addressed
and
included.
N
But
right
now
we
are
kind
of
designing
conceptually
with
both
those
budgets,
as
we
move
forward,
we'll
be
looking
more
specifically
at
cost
estimating
to
see
how
that
reality
is
really
coming
in
actually
doing
takeoffs
and
that
type
of
thing
and
we'll
likely
have
to
make
some.
You
know
tweaks
or
adjustments
based
on
that
working
with
the
city.
N
B
Okay,
so
let
me
ask
you
a
question
in
another
way:
what
if
we
decide,
I'm
just
throwing
some
examples
out
there.
So
what
if
we
decide
we
want
if
the,
if,
if
the
residents
decide
that
they
want
plan
two
and
the
cost
for
plan,
two
is
like
6.2
million.
N
It
will
be
closer
as
we
move
forward
so
right
now.
It's
kind
of
still
big
ideas,
general
components
to
kind
of
get
that
those
priorities
and
then
we'll
continue
to
kind
of
refine
and
recheck
against
that
number.
That
might
mean
more
planting
trying
to
reduce
some
of
the
safety
surfacing
areas,
maybe
making
those
tighter
slight
refinements,
while
keeping
the
main
components
so
that's
kind
of
a
standard
process
for
design,
especially
in
today's
construction,
climate
and
then
working
with
susan
evelyn
and
the
rest
of
the
staff
to
making
sure
everything
kind
of
matches
up.
Susan.
C
C
We
have
had
examples
of
projects
in
the
past
couple
years
where
we
thought
they
would
cost
200
000
and
we
actually
got
a
budget,
a
construction
bid
process
that
led
it
to
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
estimate
or
sorry
bid,
and
sometimes
that
happens,
but
I
have
to
say
that
mig
is
doing
everything
possible
to
not
show
something
that's
outside
of
our
budget
constraints.
B
Okay,
so
I
have
a
couple
more
questions.
If
you
don't
mind
here,
let
me
just
go
ahead
now
with
the
survey
with
regard
to
the
survey
now
the
the
respondents,
that
of
55
of
them
were
within
that
one
mile
radius
or
half
a
mile
radius
that
you
looked
at
or
was
it
like
all
over
cupertino
I
mean
it's
50.
N
Minutes
a
15-minute
walk,
so
it
was
within
a
kind
of
dashed
line
around
the
park.
B
Okay
and
since
there
were
only
three,
there
were
308,
which
I
think
is
a
whole
lot
more
than
most
surveys
get,
but
so
was
there
a
way?
Was
there
a
way
where
you
were
abe?
Were
you
taking
the
arab?
How
do
you
know
that?
B
Okay,
a
one
more
question,
actually
a
couple
more
maybe,
but
at
this
point,
when
you
use
the
word
organic,
were
you
trying
to
just
say
natural
looking?
Was
it
another
word
for
organic
or
is
that
something
where.
N
Yeah
words
are
always
subjective,
but
organic
was
trying
to
kind
of
get
something:
yes
slightly
more
naturalistic
or
a
little
bit
more
flowy,
maybe
not
angular
or
very
architectural,
so
it
is
kind
of
more
of
a
you
know
it's
a
soft
question,
and
so
it
is
up
to
how
people
interpret
it,
but
that
was
kind
of
the
counter
request.
B
Okay,
because
I
was
you
know
anything,
organic
has
an
expiry
date,
so
I'm
like
okay,
what
happens
to
the
maintenance
of
this
thing?
Is
there
an
issue
which
is
my
follow-up
question,
which
is
you
know
these
type
of
I
mean
this
will
be
our
first
experience
at
an
all-inclusive
playground,
I'm
sure
there's
material
there
that
works
for
kids
with
different
abilities
now,
how
much
of
that
material
requires
regular
maintenance.
So,
if
I
put
for
my
70s
20
27
20
2034
before
we
make
any
changes
or
upgrades
or.
N
Fixes
you
broke
up
a
little
bit,
but
I
would
say
that
inclusive
play
is
no
different
than
any
other
playground.
There
is
ongoing
maintenance
to
make
sure
that
you
know
things
are
well
maintained
that
the
equipment
is
holding
up.
The
pieces
that
are
more
subject
to
you
know
not
lasting
the
life
of
a
playground
which
is
somewhere
between
15
and
20
years.
N
Give
or
take
depending
on
intensity
of
use,
are
given
those
natural
pieces
so,
depending
on
what
the
the
nature
retreats
are
if
they're
planted
materials
that
might
require
a
little
bit
more,
we
are
looking
at
some
logs
and
using
some
of
the
trees
that
the
city
is
going
to
be
losing
in
other
places
and
repurposing
them.
Those
might
potentially
be
a
consideration,
but
most
of
the
equipment
you
know
is
built
for
kids
to
use
and
and
adults
to
use
and
have
that
intensity.
N
B
One
other
question:
with
regard
to
the
maintenance:
what
have
you
found?
I
mean
I
had
a
little
structure
in
my
backyard
and
I
had
a
little
sandbox
for
my
kids.
My
kids
are
adults
now,
but
we're
talking
way
back
when
and
unfortunately,
our
neighbors
cats
decided
neighbor
cats
in
the
neighborhood
decided
that
was
their
good
place
to
hang
out.
So
how
would
you
do
it
to
the
public
park
with
sand.
N
That
that
is
always
the
thing
that
comes
up
with
standing
water
cats
inevitably
get
to
part
of
the
conversation.
You
know
it
depends
on
how
proximate
the
cats
are.
It
is
a
consideration
we
might
look
at
some
slightly
different
materials,
maybe
it's
more
like
pebbles,
but
sand
is
really
great
as
far
as
that
play
and
getting
water
and
the
ability
to
manipulate
and
component.
So
it's
it's
it's.
You
know.
People
have
different
stance
on
it.
N
That's
in
water
just
a
little
bit
more
clay
content,
which
you
know
that
is
more
dirty.
You
know
so
then
that
becomes
a
concern
as
far
as
you
know,
bad
manipulability,
but
in
general
you
know,
sand
and
water
within
a
player
is
usually
more
of
a
maintenance
consideration
and
proximity,
and
looking
at
adjacencies
for
sand
moving
outside
of
where
it's
intended
to
be
played
with
cats
are
typically
less
of
an
issue.
N
E
B
Okay,
one
last
question:
at
this
point
I
mean
one
comment:
there
was
something
about
internal
gathering
areas.
Can
you
comment
on
that
sure?
I
didn't
understand
that.
N
Sure,
essentially,
it's
picnic
tables
that
are
located
within
the
area
off
the
central
path,
so
there
are
opportunities
for
people
to
kind
of
gather
in
groups,
so
think
about
a
birthday
party
or
kind
of
a
gathering
of
neighbors.
That
type
of
thing
that's
what's
implied.
This
is
that
the
seating
is
a
little
bit
more
approximate,
so
you
could
have
a
gathering
or
other
individuals
using
it
at
the
same
time,
either
way.
B
Okay,
I
guess
I'm
done
that's
all.
I
have
to
comment
on.
O
H
Okay,
just
a
couple
of
comments
on
what
commissioner
gopal
was
saying,
so
I
thought
just
a
few
minutes
ago.
You
said
that
it
might
be
easy
to
bring
some
renderings
of
the
park.
Did
I
understand
you
correctly
not.
N
For
this
phase,
we
are
scoped
for
the
singular
vision
that
we
bring
forward
after
we
get
community
feedback
to
provide
a
rendering,
so
that
will
be
part
of
the
next
phase,
but
right
now,
they're
still
kind
of
it's
not
either
or
but
it's
two
discussion
points
where
we're
starting
the
conversation
to
get
us
to
what
the
final
version
will
be.
Okay,.
H
And
the
second
thing
is,
I
I
just
wanted
a
clarification
that
did
I
hear
you
say
that
the
budget
that
is
your
mark,
the
3.6,
is
that
you
can
stay
within
the
budget
and
we
may
or
may
not
need
the
million
dollar
fundraising
or
did
I
misunderstand
you.
H
K
Yes,
we
currently
have
in
the
cip
budget,
3.6
million,
but
as
part
of
the
grant
application
we
did
submit,
stating
that
we
will
be
fundraising
a
portion
of
the
funds,
and
that
is
because
these
types
of
projects
typically
follow
a
certain
model
of
fundraising
in
in
conjunction
with
grants
and
city
funds,
and
so.
K
Understand,
yeah
yeah,
so
we
we
do
need
the
money
just
as
to
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to
produce
a
project
that
meets
all
the
grant
requirements,
not
just
the
budget
but
the
site
locations.
The
utilities
the
play
equipment
to
make
it
a
well-rounded
within
the
play
area.
H
So
what
is
very
confusing
for
me
is
right
now,
melissa.
You
have
not
told
us
how
much
this
thing
is
going
to
cost
or,
but
we
on
the
other
hand,
so
it
so
I'm
having
a
little
bit
of
a
disconnect
between
we
need
to
have
this
amount
of
money
versus
here
are
the
plans
and
what
could
be
the
potential
cost?
H
What
is
it
so?
Where
is
it?
Where
are
we
really
do?
We
have
a
good
understanding
of.
We
need
4
million
to
be
able
to
do
plan
a
or
we
need
4
million
to
do
plan
b
or
we
can
settle
with
a
lower
amount.
What
is
what
needs
to
give
way?
And,
lastly,
my
other
question
is
if
we
are
not
able
to
raise
a
million
dollars
in
funding,
fundraising
additional
million
dollars?
What
gives,
where
is
the
art?
How
much
is
its
art
costing
and
is
art
absolutely
required
to
make
this
a
viable
proposition?
C
C
So
the
project
right
now
is
scoped
to
spend
the
3.6
million
dollars,
and
that
includes
mit's
fees
and
other
consultants
that
may
be
involved
in
the
project
as
well
as
construction
costs.
The
million
dollars
is
a
requirement
of
the
grant.
We
have
to
attempt
to
raise
a
million
dollars.
It
may
be
that
the
city
can
elect
to
contribute
another
million
dollars.
If
we
find
that
the
fundraising
isn't
working
so
that,
then
the
city
would
be
required
to
contribute
more.
H
It
helps
in
the
sense,
yes
that
helps
from
the
legal
point
of
view
in
terms
of
the
money.
What
I
want
to
understand
is
it
are
the
plans
that
we
just
saw.
Can
they
fall
within
that
budget
or
are
they
or
it
is
under
budge?
Let's
say,
for
example,
this
can.
This
is
a
viable
project
for
2
million,
but
we
need
all
for
all
these
legal
reasons.
It
needs
to
be
4
million.
So
then
does
that
mean
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
spending
4
million.
C
C
H
So
what
is
it
what's
a
good
number
and
I'm
not
saying
we
need
the
answer
today,
but
you
know
where
I'm
going
right
with
my
thought
process.
I
don't
want
us
to
kind
of
balloon:
the
art
budget
so
much
that
could
probably
be
used
in
better
ways
for
other
parks,
for
instance,.
C
I
will
comment
that
in
everything
that
we
do
at
the
city,
we
are
tasked
with
being
fiscally
responsible
to
spend
our
tax
dollars
taxpayers
money
responsibly.
C
H
A
B
K
So
the
it's
contingent
that
we
meet
the
match
so,
whether
that
be
through
public
fun
through
fundraising
or
city
match.
As
long
as
we
raise
that
additional
match.
B
A
B
E
K
B
K
So
the
grant
is
for
1.4
million.
The
city
has
contributed
1.2
million.
The
total
cip
budget
is
3.6
million
of
that
we
have
the
240
000
that's
for
construction
contingency
that
is
not
eligible
for
grant
reimbursement
because
it
is
not
a
hard
cost.
So
and
but
and
then
we
have
other
items
like
fundraising
and
pod
project
administration.
That's
also
uneligible
for
grant
reimbursement.
I
Yeah,
so
maybe
if
it
is
okay
evelyn,
I
just
want
to
summarize
that
I
just
wanted
to
in
my
head,
sir
overall
budget
is
3.6
out,
of
which
1.4
comes
from
santa
clara
county.
Yes,
city
gives
you
1.2,
which
comes
to
2.6,
but
the
budget
is
3.6,
so
there
is
a
gap
of
1
million
already
you
need
to
go
under
fundraiser
right.
Apart
from
that,
it
may
go
more
because
of
those
costs
which
evelyn
just
called
out
it.
I
You
cannot
consume,
it
could
be
best
within
that
1.2
of
it,
but
the
city,
the
santa
clara
county,
is
not
going
to
re-embarrass
on
those
things,
because
that's
just
an
enabler
cost,
but
not
the
actual
real
hard
cost
so
looks
like
we
are
on
a
like
a
ballpark
that
we
need
to
at
least
raise
1
million
or,
if
not
more,
and
I
don't
think
that
I
know
we-
we
had
a
discussion
just
now.
We
will
ask
something
surplus.
I
don't
think
that
we
will
end
up
in
like
yeah
for
these
kind
of
expenses.
I
B
I
K
B
B
Would
like
we
all
would
like
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
how
much
of
that
right
thing
and
how
much
money
is
available.
So
this
is
a
signal.
That's
a
that's
a
real
eye-opener
for
me
that
we
don't
have
the
3.6
million
that
I
did
not
understand
earlier.
Yeah.
K
But
we
are
actively
looking
for
other
grants.
We
are
working
through
the
campaign
plan,
so
we
can
go,
live
and
start.
You
know
announcing
it
to
the
public
and
you
know
start
asking
for
donations,
making
connections
and
things
like
that.
K
C
I
I
will
add
that
we're
very
active
with
it
now
we're
doing
our
best.
I've
got
a
task
force,
a
community
task
force
that
is
looking
at
the
fundraising
campaign
and
giving
us
feedback
on
that
and
we're
trying
to
move
that
forward,
because
we
will
need
to
have
those
funds
in
place
before
we
initiate
a
construction
contract.
So
we're
very
aware
of
the
timeline.
That's
required.
B
B
O
And
I
have
some
questions
for
this
campaign,
so
I
heard
this
campaign
already
started,
so
I'm
wondering
and
did
any
commissioner
could
get
a
chance
to
get
involved
involved
or
because
it's
the
first
time
I
heard
about
it.
I
remember
in
our
past
meeting
we
talked
about
the
fund
reading
several
times
and
we
talked
about
like
the
donation
wall
and
several
other
ideas
to
promote
that.
But
we
didn't
get
a
chance
to
know
it's
already
started.
We
thought,
maybe,
commissioner,
will
be
more
involved
in
this.
C
Thank
you,
chair
the,
but
at
this
point
we
have
initiated
the
task
force
that
is
looking
at
and
giving
feedback
on
the
fundraising
campaign.
We
actually
haven't
made
a
push
for
fundraising
itself
in
the
public
yet
or
we
don't
have
a
plan
yet
either
because
of
the
we
have
to
be
careful
to.
C
O
Oh
so
so
looks
like
my
internet.
Yeah
has
had
some
glitch
okay,
so
so
sorry,
because
I
I
didn't
hear
you
clearly,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
so.
Does
that
mean
if
the
campaign
started
commissioning
me
get
a
chance
to
get
involved,
because
I
heard
for
the
library
expansion
program,
I
heard
at
least
one
or
two
commissioners.
They
joined
the
fundraising
team
and
they
work
closely
with
all
the
donors.
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
would
happen
for
park
and
the
recreation
commission
there.
C
G
H
Thank
you
rachel
for
reminding
us
what
that
we
need
to
stay
on
this,
but
if
you
will
humor
me
because
you've
spoken
so
much,
I
have
just
one
question:
it's
a
little
bit
off
field,
and
also
please
forgive
me
because
I'm
relatively
new,
if
fundraising,
is
such
a
big
issue,
which
it
is
right,
a
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money.
There
is
actually
this
whole
all-inclusive
bathroom.
H
If
I
remember,
was
850
000
dollars
just
thinking
out
loud
here,
and
please
tell
me
that
I'm
I'm
suspecting
it's
not
even
possible,
but
just
as
a
quick
question
if
we
run
short
of
one
million
that
threatens
this
entire
venture,
is
it
possible
at
all
to
say
that
we
might
put
the
inclusive
bathroom
on
hold
and
put
that
850
000
into
this
and
come
closer
to
the
million
dollar
fundraising
rather
than
have
both
of
those
projects
be
threatened
because
of
lack
of
budget?
H
C
C
If
we
were
to
begin
that
project,
we
would
be
underway
with
that
project
and
have
expenditures
that
would
happen
before
the
million
dollar
question
came
into
being,
so
the
process
would
be
that
we
would
go
back
to
council
with
decisions
about
expenditures
and
probably
would
consider
both
parts
of
the
project
as
a
whole
rather
than
as
separate
entities
at
that
point,
so
we
will
be
in
conversation
with
council
at
that
point.
If
decisions
need
to
be
made-
and
I
can't
remember
your
second
question-
the.
H
K
Yeah,
it's
to
create
the
campaign
plan
and
support
us.
It's
39
000,
just
for
creating
the
plan
implementing.
It
is
a
separate
item
and
we
haven't
even
discussed
that
it
looks
like
we
might
do
that
internally.
O
And
next
is
commissioner
kumar
pen.
I
Thank
you,
I'm
just
going
back
onto
the
concept,
so
he
said
that
when
you
get
the
feedback-
and
I
just
want
to
melissa-
you
can
help
me
so
two
rounds
of
these
kind
of
on
a
outreach
or
programs
and
then
you're
one
month
of
it
and
july.
It
ends
it
and
then
you
will
get
it
and
is
it
like
within
two
months
or
within
a
month.
You'll
come
back
with
whatever
the
best
concept.
Now
with
the
combination
of
one
and
two
or
whatever.
Is
that.
I
Okay,
the
reason
I
ask
is
that
it'll
be
good
when
we
go
on
any
of
the
next
steps
right,
I
don't
want
to
go
in
detail
into
the
fundraising
and
whatnot.
The
next
steps
off
would
be
based
on
that
plan
and
the
feedback,
and
that's
what
will
make
the
public
to
really
come
back
and
not
contribute.
So
that's
the
reason.
Yeah,
okay,.
I
O
I
K
Receive
an
update
and
then,
if
commissioners
can
provide
feedback
on
the
concepts.
I
D
D
There
we
go
all
right,
so,
as
commissioner
shu
mentioned,
this
is
an
update
on
senior
strategy.
We
came
and
presented
to
you
a
number
of
months
ago
on
a
survey
that
we
were
doing
in
regards
to
a
city,
work
program,
item
and
I'm
here
to
speak
to
you
about
that
tonight.
D
So
you
see
here
we
had
a
vast
majority
of
our
respondents
live
in
cupertino.
We
had
a
pretty
even
split
on
whether
or
not
our
respondents
were
members
of
the
senior
center.
D
The
I'm
very
sorry
this
is
missing.
D
Oh,
it
is
not
I'm.
I
apologize.
It's
not
missing
a
slide.
The
resources
we
asked
about
for
technology
were
the
tech
classes
at
the
cupertino
senior
center
public,
wi-fi
in
city
buildings,
public
access,
computers
at
the
cupertino
library
and
cupertino
library,
resource
workshops.
D
D
Respondents
were
least
aware
of
getsetup.il
a
virtual
class
platform
with
access
sponsored
by
the
cupertino
library
foundation,
the
support
from
the
cupertino
community
funding
grant
program,
and
for
those
of
you
that
are
more
visual
for
all
of
these
resources.
We're
going
to
show
you
those
results
in
table
form
and
then
in
chart
form.
It's
the
same
information.
D
For
housing,
the
resources
we
asked
about
were
the
below
market
rate,
housing
program,
senior,
adult
legal
assistants,
west
valley,
community
services,
the
long-term
care
ombudsman
rebuilding
together
housing
authority
of
the
county
of
santa
clara
project,
sentinel
housing,
trust,
silicon
valley,
habitat
for
humanity,
the
haven
to
home
program
and
catholic
charities
of
the
11
resources
listed
for
housing.
Respondents
had
the
greatest
awareness
of
west
valley,
community
services,
habitat
for
humanity
and
catholic
charities.
Respondents
were
least
aware
of
the
housing
trust,
silicon
valley
and
the
haven
to
home
program.
D
Mental
and
physical
health
and
well-being,
the
resources
we
asked
about
were
the
cupertino
senior
center
cupertino
parks
and
recreation,
health,
insurance,
counseling
and
advocacy
program,
senior
adults,
legal
assistance,
source,
wise
211,
behavioral
health
services
of
santa
clara
county
excuse
me:
live
oak,
adult
day,
services,
veterans,
administration,
catholic
charities,
older
adult
behavioral
health
service,
the
friendship
line,
adult
protective
services
and
my
tree
of
this
13
resources
listed
for
mental
and
physical
health
and
well-being.
D
Respondents
had
the
greatest
awareness
of
parks
at
cupertino
parks
and
recreation
and
the
cupertino
senior
center,
with
large
portions
of
respondents
61
and
41
respectively.
Having
used
the
resource,
respondents
were
least
aware
of
metri
a
resource
providing
services
to
those
experiencing
domestic
violence.
D
Now,
for
all
these
resources,
we
do
want
to
be
able
to
refer
seniors
to
resources
that
may
be
helpful
to
them
and
to
that
end
we
have
a
senior
center
resource
web
page.
This
webpage
was
newly
built
in
2021
and
lists.
A
variety
of
resources
of
most
interest
to
seniors
prominently
highlighted
are
agencies
which
are
best
equipped
to
direct
seniors
to
appropriate
resources
such
as
source,
wise
and
2-1-1,
and
if
you
give
me
a
moment
to
switch
here,
I'll
give
you
a
quick
tour
of
the
webpage.
D
Seeing
the
web
page
now,
yep,
okay,
so
you
see
here,
we
have
listed
prominently
near
the
top,
are
at
the
top
source,
wise
211,
santa
clara
county
west
valley,
community
services
and
the
santa
clara
county
department
of
aging
and
adult
services.
D
What
these
all
have
in
common
is
that
they
are
agencies
that
can
then
that
are
hubs
of
information
that
can
then
refer
seniors
to
more
specified
resources
that
are
applicable
to
their
need
at
that
time.
D
So
sourcewise
offers
resource
information
on
a
variety
of
topics,
including
housing,
nutrition,
health,
insurance,
transportation
and
more
through
a
comprehensive
network
of
resources.
Sourcewise
offers
education,
support
and
advocacy
for
all
adults,
their
families
and
their
caregivers
within
santa
clara
county
211b
area
is
a
program
of
the
united
way
and
is
a
comprehensive
information
and
referral
service
for
santa
clara
and
other
bay
area
counties.
D
They
connect
over
37
000
bay
area,
callers
and
textures
each
year
with
information
about
health
and
human
services
that
are
available
to
them.
211
phone
and
tech
services
are
available
24
hours
a
day,
7
days
a
week
in
150
languages
through
phone
interpretation.
It
is
also
available
in
english
and
spanish
for
text
message.
Services.
D
While
a
wealth
of
resources
exists
in
the
area,
the
survey
has
demonstrated
that
many
seniors
are
unaware
of
these
resources
or
what
they
do.
And
so
we
have
some
plans.
Preliminary
plans
for
outreach
to
connect
seniors
to
these
resources.
Staff
proposes
increasing
the
number
of
presenters
and
workshops
at
the
cupertino
senior
center
from
various
organizations,
as
well
as
bringing
back
the
senior
center's
annual
resource
fair,
where
these
organizations
can
provide
direct
outreach
to
cupertino
seniors
hosting
a
senior
center
table
at
cupertino's.
D
Further.
Promoting
these
organizations
pre-existing
outreach
efforts
would
prevent
redundancy
and
efforts,
while
also
driving
our
seniors
to
the
resources
they
may
need.
For
example,
two
on
one
currently
has
a
guiding
light:
outreach
initiative
which
has
developed,
60
and
30
second
videos
in
both
english
and
spanish,
which
explain
their
services
and
efforts.
Promoting
these
videos
on
the
city
website
or
elsewhere
would
help
to
further
the
agency's
reach
and
increase
cupertino
seniors
awareness
of
2-1-1.
D
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thanks
alex
it's
a
clarifying
question
because
I
do
have
a
few
other
comments,
but
I'll
wait
for
the
discussion
patreon
when
you
updated
these
slides,
and
you
mentioned,
for
example,
if
I
take
technology
as
the
first
one
you're,
given
the
technology,
the
five
resources,
what
is
the
top
and
then
given
the
answers,
but
I
couldn't
figure
it
out
which
one
they
have
used
it
or
not.
But
I
know
you
looks
like
you
have
the
data,
because
I
was
looking
at
the
slide
fast
and
say
I
know
you
talked
about
it.
I
D
That
website
engage
cupertino.org
senior
resources.
The
full
survey
data
is
is
there.
It
is
a
whole
lot
of
data
to
try
to
include
in
a
powerpoint.
So
that's
the
the
aggregate
of
each
category
that
we
put
in
the
powerpoint,
but
you
can
see
resource
by
resource
what
the
results
were.
I
B
I
really
just
had
a
comment
to
what
commissioner
kamarpan
had
said,
which
is
that
any
of
the
survey
results.
I
had
the
same
issue.
I
was
like
commissioner
kumar,
but
I
was
trying
to
read
you
mine,
too,
alex
trying
to
figure
out
like
how
did
you
conclude
that
this
is
this?
One
thing
is
more
popular
than
the
other
thing,
so
it's
very
good
to
know
that
the
results
are
there,
but
there's
no
way
anybody
has
summarized
those
results.
We
just
have
to
go
through
all
the
results,
or
maybe
I.
D
Don't
know
they're
they're
they're,
I
I
I
did
summarize
the
results:
they're
they're,
all
cleaned
up
and
nice.
Looking
for
people
to
to
to
easily
understand.
D
Do
have
those
narratives
included
that
I
presented
to
you
now
about
pulling
out,
which
ones
were
most
and
least
aware
of
in
the
population,
but
as
I
as
I
mentioned
it,
just
it's
so
many
resources
it
would.
It's
information
overload
to
look
at
it
in
a
powerpoint
form,
but
it
is
there
on
the
website.
Excellent.
O
Thank
you.
If
there's
no
more
clarification
question
and
we
just
go
to
the
next
step,
to
get
the
public
comments
but
looks
like
there's:
no
community
members
online.
O
Okay,
if
there's
no
public
comments,
we
just
go
back
to
to
commissioner's
comments.
Vice
chair
bigger,
please
go
ahead.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
so
so
it's
I
mean.
We've
got
some
fantastic
survey
results
and
we've
got
a
plan
going,
which
also
seems
very
reasonable.
My
question
is,
you
know:
do
we
have
like
a
end
date
for
this
plan?
Is
this
an
ongoing
plan?
How
do
we
measure
our
success
of
this
plan?
Are
we
going
to
do
another
survey
in
a
year?
D
That's
an
excellent
question
about
measuring
the
success
of
the
plan.
That
part
has
not
been
determined
yet
this.
D
This
work
plan
item
has
been
carried
forward
into
the
next
fiscal
year,
but
it
has
changed
a
little
bit,
so
part
of
it
will
be
determined
by
what
council's
feedback
is
once
we
get
to
them.
But
some
of
these,
the
things
in
our
plan
are
things
that
we
do
to
some
degree
already
but
want
to
increase,
and
I
would
imagine
those
would
be
ongoing
things,
for
example,
presentations
here
at
the
senior
center,
that
I
can't
see
why
we
would
taper
them
back
down
if
they
are
reaching
a
lot
of
seniors.
D
B
What
is
the
item
on
the
work
plan
for
senior
center
then.
D
And
unfortunately,
I
do
not
know
the
new
language
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
know
that
it's
been
adjusted.
D
I
Yeah,
but
first
of
all,
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
alex
and
I
did
go
through
the
attached
packet
and
I
think
it
does
have
those
information.
The
consolidated
information.
I
I
rachel
was
challenging
us
to
see
that
I
was
like
worried
that
she
might
ask
tell
me
what
is
in
144,
page
and
third
line.
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
do
that
homework.
The
couple
of
questions
or
kind
of
comments
on
it
is
that
based
is
that
a
reason
because
of
these
awareness
predominantly
looks
like
more
than
50
percent?
If
I
take
an
average
out,
look
like
50
of
the
programs
availability
is
not
known
to
these
seniors.
I
Is
it
because
they
don't
come
to
senior
center
because
we
were
on
a
covet.
So
there's
only
a
communication
mechanism
through
emails
and
electronic
media
kind
of
and
they
didn't
come
out.
Is
it
have
you
ever
attribute
attributed
to
this
one
to
what
could
be
the
cost
that
50
percent
of
the
people
didn't
know.
D
So
we
didn't
look
into
the
cause,
I
will
say
roughly
half
of
the
people
that
answered
the
survey
were
not
senior
center
members,
which
I
think
is
great
from
the
point
of
view
of
it
really
shows
that
we
were
managing
to
reach
outside
our
senior
center
borders,
senior
center
walls,
so
to
speak,
to
get
get
a
hold
of
people,
but
that
does
mean
we
have
a
harder
time
determining
why
they
don't
need
them.
I
will
say
some
of
the
paper
surveys.
We
received
actually
a
fair
number
of
them.
D
I
people
would
make
handwritten
notes
and
say:
well,
I
just
don't
need
xyz.
So
no,
I
don't
know
about
this,
but
I
don't
need
it.
So
some
people
don't
need
certain
resources
and
that's
why
they
don't
know
about
them.
But
there
have
got
to
be
people
out
there
that
need
the
resources
and
also
don't
know
about
them,
which
is
why
we're
hoping
to
outreach
more.
I
I
Important
perfect
yeah,
so
that
leads
me
to
my
second
comment:
is
that
are
we
doing
anything
now,
since
we
know
that,
for
example,
if
they
don't
know
anything
about
the
library
or
west
valley
or
vta
or
any
of
those
in
general
one
is,
we
will
make
ourselves
our
effort
to
put
in
to
make
sure
that
they
are
aware
of
it.
But
are
we
reaching
out
to
those
specific
organizations
right,
for
example,
in
our
library
and
others
and
say
hey?
This
is
the
result
of
the
feedback.
This
is
the
data
we
collected.
I
It
looks
like
your
surveys
are
not
known
to
seniors.
Can
you
please
put
in
your
plan,
or
can
we
do
something
from
your
end?
Ask
or
because
I
don't
think
that
we
will
have
a
budget
to
go
and
make
this
awareness
of
individual
organizations
everywhere,
but
it
will
be
good
to
communicate
to
them
that
hey
your
existence
is
not
yet
known
to
50
of
the
seniors
in
our
city
or
in
cupertino.
I
D
So
that
is
frankly,
the
perfect
example
of
what
these
meetings
are
for.
Is
suggestions
like
that
about
talking
to
agencies
about
upping
their
own
outreach,
so
that's
something
I'll
note
down
as
as
feedback
on
our
plan
in
for
moving
forward
as
we
as
we
take
this
moving
forward,
I
will
say
we
we
sort
of
have
that
thought
with
things
like
promoting
existing
outreach,
like
I
mentioned
with
211
in
that
guiding
light
initiative.
I
Excellent,
I
think,
yeah.
I
would
strongly
recommend,
because
it's
also
part
of
our
one
of
the
city,
why
our
priorities
our
goals
right-
is
that
collaborate
partner
with
organizations
and
others
to
do
it.
This
is
a
perfect
opportunity
and
we
have
the
data
and
we
can
just
go
and
share
the
data
and
make
them
hey.
Let's
work
together.
I'll
do
my
part
you
need.
You
can
do
your
part
so
that
we
can
benefit
the
community
at
large.
I
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
very
good
initiative,
so
yeah
that's
kind
of
at
a
high
level.
I
have
it.
I
don't
have
any
further
point
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
O
Thank
you
for
all
the
comments.
Are
there
any
any
more
questions?
I
didn't
see
anyone
raised
hands,
yeah,
okay
and
thank
you
for
all
the
update
and
we
really
hope
the
senior
can
learn
more
about
the
resources
you
know
maybe
after
pandemic,
when
more
people
come
into
the
senior
center
in
person.
O
This
the
situation
will
be
better
because
I
learned
from
my
mom
and
her
friends
when
they
didn't
visit
the
senior
center
in
person.
It's
really
hard
for
them
to
get
information.
O
M
G
The
actual
july
meeting
city
council
moved
their
meeting
to
the
thursday
night.
That
would
normally
be
ours
in
previous
years
july
has
been
a
meeting
we
have
often
cancelled,
so
we
can
talk
about
whether
we
need
to
reschedule
or,
if
we'd
like,
to
cancel
that
meeting
and
wait
until
the
august
meeting.
G
O
Okay,
commissioner
kumar,
you
have
some.
I
G
I
O
Okay,
so
for
this
item,
do
we
need
to
vote
for
this
cancel
or
reschedule,
or
how
can
we.
I
G
B
E
B
So
we
won't
be.
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
joint
commission
meeting,
so
we
won't
be
really
addressing
any
specific
issues
to
do
to
parks
and
rec.
D
I
I'm
available,
I
won't
be-
I
may
not
be
available
in
august,
I'm
I'm
international
traveling.
I
work
on
august
first
three
weeks,
so
I
will
try
to
attend
it
from
india.
If
the
internet
connection
allows
me,
but
I
am
available.
O
B
I
Now,
maybe
I
think
we
can
just
discuss
and
then
somebody
can
propose.
I
think
it
will
be
good
to
have
in
july,
but
maybe
we
can
skip
august.
If
you
are
planning
to
cancel
rather
than
july
august
would
be
because
I'm
not
going
to
be
available.
It's
going
to
be
difficult
to
address
others,
and
if
chad
is
also,
we
will
have
only
three
people,
and
I
would
I
would
prefer
august,
could
be
one
we
can
skip
it,
not
the
july.
H
B
G
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
reiterate
that
there's
actually
not
anything
to
really
put
on
the
agenda
for
july.
So
the
only
thing
I
would
be
able
to
bring
you
guys
is
literally
what
city
council
is
approving
in
the
way
of
the
work
program.
But
that
would
be
just
a
presentation
on
that
information.
O
And
I
have
a
question
so
if
we
move
our
august
meeting
to
the
end
of
august,
would
that
be
too
late
for
some
item
yeah?
It
looks
like
the
first
two
or
three
weeks
in
august.
B
It
actually
might
make
sense
to
take
a
look
at
the
work
plan,
because
I
think
we
voted
on
what
we
said
we
wanted
to
work
on.
So,
even
though
we
may
not
have
updates
on
this,
it
might
be
useful
to
take
a
look
at
what
the
work
plan
is
that
has
been
approved
so
that
then
we
can
actually
kind
of
you
know,
request
stephen.
G
I
I
One
and
it
will
make
sure
if
it
has
to
run
for
three
hours.
We
know
how
to,
but
no
I'm
just
sharing
if
it
is
an
important
update
for
the
community,
not
for
us
in
general.
I
was
joking
about
it,
but
it'll
be
good
for
if
you
think
that
some
of
those
council
things
are
important
related
to
park
and
rec,
and
if
we
can
update
the
community
through
this
forum,
it's
a
good
opportunity.
I
That's
what
I
meant,
even
if
it
is
something
we
can
do
it
otherwise
moving
anyway,
we
plan
to
move
august
or
cancel.
Then
I
think
it's
a
huge
cap
of
two
months.
They
may
not
be
here.
That's
that's
the
only
concern
I
have
that
I
want
to
be
with
the
community
share
with
what
we
learned,
even
if
just
a
replay
of
the
last
things,
what
we
get
it
from
a
council.
H
Now
I'm
aligned
with
what
you're
saying,
commissioner,
but
what
I
was
thinking
is
instead
of
moving
the
august
to
the
tail
end
of
august,
and
then
we
meet
again
in
the
first
week
of
september.
We
might
retain
the
july
and
just
cancel
the
august
all
together
right.
O
And
I
checked
the
calendar
it
looks
like
the
first
thursday
is
in
september
is
september.
First
yeah
I
mean.
H
O
O
I
So
ma'am
sorry
looks
like
kamshnab.
Sashiya
has
okay.
B
I
Meeting
either
on
14
to
20,
but
I
think
that
that
we
can
finalize
it
through
email,
I
believe,
jessica
and
and
kevin
typically.
We
do.
We
don't
have
to
discuss
that
deliberate
here.
If
at
all,
if
you
are
okay
with
that,
we
can
do
14
or
21..
We
like
to
keep
the
meeting
in
july,
but
cancel
the
august
one,
that's
a
motion.
I
I
want
to
put
forth
here
the
date.
B
O
A
G
No,
I'm
just
trying
to
double
check
weather
because
right
now,
what's
agendaized
is
july.
So
I'm
trying
to
double
check
whether
we
can
add
the
august
one
in
or
if
we
just
say
we're
gonna
move
july
and
then
we'll
agenda
is
cancelling
the
august
and
the
july
meeting.
O
A
I
Yeah
so
okay,
then
I
will.
I
will
I'm,
and
I
will
restate
thanks
rachel
for
catching
us,
because
it's
very
right
right
thing
to
do
is
that
I
like
to
keep
the
july
meeting
on
a
date
which
we
can
finalize
later
14th
or
21st
or
any
other
date
in
between.
But
I
like
to
keep
the
july
meeting
not
to
cancel
it.
F
I
F
Perfect,
thank
you,
and
so
I
think
we're
ready
for
the
vote.
So,
commissioner
swami,
yes,
commissioner,
kamarapan.
I
O
Go
ahead,
okay,
so
the
next
one
is
just
as
a
monthly
update
report.
I
think
yup
we
can
get
the
director
report
first.
F
A
chair
shoe,
I
could
just
real
quickly.
We
earlier
in
the
meeting,
actually
skipped
over
the
may
18th
special
meeting
minutes
to
review
and
approve
those.
So
if
we
could
go
back
to
item
two
and
then
we
can
come
back
to
the
monthly
updates
after
that
would
be
great.
F
O
Yeah
so
now
that's
agenda
item
to
the
may
18
2022
parks
and
the
recreation
commission
special
meeting
minutes,
as
anyone
have
any
comments
for
this
one.
If
no,
we
just
start
to
vote
to
approve
the
many
minutes.
A
I
Yeah
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
may
18
2022
black
under
commission
meeting
minutes.
F
All
right,
commissioner
swami,
yes.
B
You
should
abstain,
you
will
not
have
the
meaning.
Oh.
I
G
All
right,
so
I
do
have
some
updates
for
you.
Council
did
approve
extending
the
remote
teleconference
meetings,
so
now
it's
from
the
period
of
may
19th
to
june
18th.
So
for
now,
parks
and
rec
commission
meetings
will
be
virtual
until
further
notice.
I
did
notice
on
the
june
7th
agenda
that
they
also
have
another
agenda
item
to
continue
the
teleconference
meetings,
so
we
will
get
more
information.
G
After
that
meeting
on
june,
7th
community
funding
will
be
presented
to
city
council
and
chair
shu
will
be
representing
the
commission
and
answering
any
questions
on
your
recommendation.
G
There
is
a
community
meeting
planned
for
monday
june
6th
at
6
30
to
discuss
blackberry
farm
golf
course
and
the
blackberry
farm
golf
course.
Feasibility
study
survey
is
live
on,
engaged,
cupertino
and
will
close
on
july
15th,
which
you
heard
about
earlier,
and
I
don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
I
got
my
postcard
in
the
mail
today,
so
those
are
out
there
for
people
also,
and
then
we
are
having
the
open
houses
that
were
spoken
about
at
blackberry
farm.
G
G
G
Oh,
no,
no
slides
tonight
just
information
and
then
we
have
our
fourth
of
july
celebration.
G
We
are
back
to
our
big
fun,
exciting
event,
so
we
will
have
the
pancake
breakfast
at
quinlan
activities
in
a
concert
at
memorial
park
during
the
day
swimming
at
blackberry
farm
and
then
the
fireworks
in
the
evening
which
can
be
viewed
from
creekside
park,
cedric
elementary
school
and
on
miller
avenue
between
bollinger
and
phil.
Those
are
our
three
viewing
sites
for
the
fireworks
and
that's
all.
I
have.
O
F
Was
that's
like
part
of
the
that
was
one
of
the
dates
a
chair
shoe
that
we
threw
out
for
the
triple
joint,
but
then
we
ended
up
landing
on
the
monday
june
13th
date.
Okay
got.
O
It
yeah
thanks
for
the
clarification.
Are
there
any
updates
from
commissioners.
O
O
I
B
I
B
I
A
I
A
O
And
the
next
mayor's
meeting
vice
chair
bego
will
be
there
just
want
to
make
sure.
F
Oh,
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
could
talk
about
who's
going
to
go
to
the
mayor's
meeting
for
july
and
august.
Just
so
we
can
get
someone
down
because
right
now
we
only
have
till
june.