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Coverage of the February 21, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting.
(Live Streamed Version)
A
B
D
A
E
Thank
you
mayor,
wait,
I'm,
going
to
turn
the
staff
report
to
Capital
Improvement
project
manager,
Susan
Michael.
F
Good
evening,
Council
mayor
vice
mayor,
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight
we're
here
to
hear
the
item
concerning
City
Hall
project
renovation
project.
The
recommended
action
is
that
the
staff
requests
city
council
reaffirm
the
direction
previously
provided
for
the
city
hall
renovation
project,
I'm,
going
to
read
an
excerpt
from
the
staff
report
and
there's
no
presentation
otherwise.
For
now
so
on,
January
17th
Council
requested
a
future
agenda
item
to
reconsider
the
November
15th
Council
Direction
on
the
city
hall
CIP
project.
F
That
direction
was
to
direct
staff
to
include
the
city
hall
renovation,
including
full
seismic
retrofoot
MEP,
it
interior,
finishes
and
layout
complete
refurbishment
at
the
level
of
California
building
code,
structural
risk,
category
4
for
approximately
27
and
a
half
million
dollars,
as
we
were
meant
to
include
that
as
part
of
the
fiscal
year.
2023
2024
proposal
for
CIP
council
is
aware
that
this
direction
followed
the
recommendation
from
the
city
hall
project
subcommittee
that
was
created
in
July,
2022
and
included
council
members,
Moore
and
Willie.
F
What
we've
learned
since
then
and
since
five
different
analysis
reports
have
been
done
that
reached
the
same
conclusion
is
that
the
building
needs
to
be
seismically
retrofit
and
the
HVAC
and
other
infrastructural
systems
are
well
past,
their
useful
life
and
they
need
to
be
renovated
to
date.
Since
2015
there
have
been
numerous
options
reviewed
and
analyzed.
The
subcommittee
considered
one
a
seismic
upgrade
to
the
existing
building
two
renovations
to
the
existing
building,
three
replacement
of
the
existing
building,
otherwise,
a
new
building
and
replacement
of
other
elements
that
support
ongoing
City
operations.
F
As
you
know,
the
subcommittee
recommended
that
the
CIP
included
a
new
project
for
the
city
hall
building,
that
is,
a
full
interior
renovation
of
the
existing
building
and
renovation
of
the
exterior,
to
the
degree
that
it
supports
seismic
and
Energy
Efficiency
upgrades
so
on.
November
15,
2022
Council
directed
staff,
as
mentioned
to
proceed
with
that
project
for
approximately
27.5
million
dollars,
and
we
are
here
to
ask
you
to
confirm
that
direction.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
Susan.
Now
we
are
going
to
for
Council
questions
you
each
have
I
believe
five
minutes.
Thank
you.
A
Do
we
have
Council
black
to
ask
questions?
If
now
we
can
go
to
public
comment,
seeing
none.
Let's
go
to
oh
council
member
Moore.
G
Thank
you
and
thank
you
Susan
for
the
for
the
report
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
went
into
the
city
hall
subcommittee.
We
had
a
really
thorough
discussion.
I
had
turned
in
written
Communications
for
this
item,
which
I,
which
I
don't
see
in
the
packet
and
I've,
just
resent
them
to
the
clerk.
So
the
recommendation
from
meeting
five,
which
was
October
21st
2022,
was
the
recommendation
from
staff.
G
Discussions
for
fiscal
year,
23
and
24
consider
hiring
Consultants
to
develop
the
schedule
and
requirements
for
City
Hall,
and
there
were
other
considerations
in
that
report,
and
one
was
the
cdtfa
audit,
the
potential
for
substantial
short
and
long-term
impacts.
Have
we
gotten
the
results
of
the
cdtfa
audit
to
know
if
that
is
still
impacting
this
project?
G
So
pardon
through
them
through
the
mayor
so
is
anything
changed
for
the
other
considerations
portion
of
the
report
that
was
given
to
the
subcommittee.
E
I,
don't
believe
that
was
part
of
the
research
for
this
item,
so
we
don't
have
any
further
investigational
analysis
for
that.
A
H
Councilmember
ciao,
please
thank
you.
Actually.
I
did
request
a
financial
situation
to
to
be
considered
together
with
this
item,
but
the
staff
didn't
think
that's
relevant,
although
I
my
question
is
2015
Council
decision
is
that
Council
later
dropped
the
city
hall
project
because
they
couldn't
get
the
cost
down
to
40
million
dollars
from
the
estimated
the
70
million
dollar
at
that
time.
But
the
council
I
think
had
the
option
of
just
doing
renovation,
but
then
they
choose
to
only
do
new
city
hall,
which
was
why
the
course
couldn't
come
down.
F
H
And
then,
even
when
the
council
asked
the
staff
to
consider
opportunity
to
bring
down
the
cost,
they
did
not
consider
renovation,
and
my
next
question
is
I-
am
actually
surprised.
I
didn't
know
about
the
City
Hall
budget
amendment
that
was
approved
by
2018
Council
on
October
16th.
On
that
same
agenda.
H
There
is
also
budget
amendment
for
Performing
Arts
Center,
so
those
two
were
I
think
were
after
the
council
approved
the
vocal
specific
plan
which
included
a
shell
of
City
Hall
and
the
shell
of
Performing
Arts
Center
I
asked
the
staff,
but
couldn't
you
didn't
really
address?
The
question?
Was
that
City
Hall
budget
amendment
for
the
show
that
actually
is
located
on
vocal
site
I.
F
Sorry
through
the
mayor,
I
can't
confirm
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
history.
I
know
that
there
have
been
various
levels
of
funding
that
have
been
allocated
to
the
City
Hall
project
and
some
of
it
has
been
defunded
over
the
years.
Presently
we
are
carrying
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
feasibility
of
City
Hall
and
another
500
000
for
the
interim,
City,
Hall
and
other
other
things
have
been
defunded
at.
E
This
point
so
mayor
wave
I,
can
clarify
so
staff
has
focusing
the
staff
report
for
this
item
to
ask
Council
to
confirm
your
decision
from
last
November.
We
did
not
spend
too
much
time
doing
research
on
what
happened
in
2015
or
2018.
I
understand
the
question
came
to
us
yesterday
and
we
did
the
best
we
can
to
provide
the
answer
to
your
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
I,
let's
go
to
public
comment
right
now
to
have
anybody
here.
Yes,
sorry,
council,
member
I
I
still
need
to
get
to
use
this.
I
So
I
I
note
in
the
the
budget
at
a
glance
that
City
staffing
has
grown
by
about
40
full-time
equivalents
in
the
course
of
the
period
from
2011.
Until
the
present
do
you
have
a
forecast,
anyone
on
staff
as
to
how
much
we
expect
Staffing
to
grow
in
the
next
10
to
15
years?
Sure.
E
I'll
take
that
through
the
mayor,
we
don't
and
that's
going
to
be
part
of
the
analysis
to
evaluate
as
part
of
the
renovation,
especially
if
you
would
a
knowledge
that
we're
coming
out
of
covet
post
pandemic,
Staffing
for
a
city
hall
and
also
other
facility
and
make
change.
Given
that
we
do
allow
alternative
work
schedule
and
telework.
So
the
actual
need
for
having
enough
square
footage
will
have
to
be
reevaluated.
A
G
I
included
all
of
the
reports
that
were
given
to
the
subcommittee
in
the
written
Communications
for
this
item
because
I,
you
know
I
feel
as
though
we're
in
some
ways
retracing
the
steps
which
the
subcommittee
went
through
at
this
time,
and
there
were
well
over
150
slides
that
we
we
reviewed
in
the
presentations,
including
the
the
seismic
design
and
what
had
happened
over
the
years
and
I,
don't
know
if,
if
Susan
would
like
to
go
over
that,
but
essentially
the
you
know,
the
structure
was
built
in
1965
and
we'll
fast
forward
to
1986
time
frame
8687
when
they
did
the
seismic
upgrade.
G
A
G
The
question
is
with
regards
to
Staffing
and
the
the
city
manager
might
not
be
aware
that
those
calculations
were
actually
done
and
presented
to
the
subcommittee
so
I'm,
hoping
that
staff
will
provide
them
to
for
some
clarification.
Thank
you
through.
E
The
mayor
so
council
member
Moore
I,
was
aware
of
the
Staffing
allocation
that
was
provided
to
the
subcommittee
and
I
also
understand
that
that
was
fluid
at
the
time
so
with
the
staff
coming
back
post
covet.
Now
that
the
governor
has
released
the
Declaration
for
emergency
with
the
new
city
hall
or
the
new
renovation
project,
where
we'll
have
to
evaluate
the
staffing
needs,
as
you
mentioned,
there
has
been
some
renovation
going
on
within
City
Hall.
We're
also
allocating
a
new
Council
offices
for
your
use,
so
there
will
definitely
be
some
changes
to
the
layout.
E
We're
also
proceeding
with
the
Tory
Avenue
renovation.
So
much
of
that
has
been
going
if
Susan
is
available
to
bring
that
slide
up,
go
for
it,
but
again,
I
I
am
aware
of
that
Staffing
projection
and
it's
a
very
high
level,
Elementary
kind
of
a
projection.
Regardless
what
decision
Council
decides
to
go
tonight?
We
will
have
to
revisit
that
issue
regardless.
G
Through
the
mayor,
I'm
wondering
how
many
offices
are
also
available
over
at
the
public
works
yard
and
if
there
is
some
duplication
with
regards
to
some
members
of
Public
Works
having
offices
at
that
location
and
what
reconfiguration
could
happen
there
as
well.
Thank
you.
I.
E
F
I
can
also
say
that
the
service
yard
right
now
is
service
center.
That
is
a
project.
Many
years
ago
we
looked
at
completely
tearing
that
down
and
starting
over
it
is
well.
It's
not
very
well
laid
out.
It's
not
very
well
used.
There
are
no
people
that
I'm
aware
of
that
have
offices
or
desks
at
both
locations.
There's
not
a
duplication.
There.
A
C
Yes
mayor,
we
have
one
police
figure
card
in-house
and
we
have
three
hands
raised
in
Zoom
and
I
would
just
note
that
per
the
new
city
council
procedures.
C
J
Good
evening,
Mir
way
vice
mayor,
Moen,
council,
members
and
city
manager,
we
should
definitely
be
looking
to
build
a
city
hall
and
Civic
Center
that
meets
our
needs
for
the
next
50
years.
J
A
simple
renovation
would
respect
the
safety
from
earthquake
for
people
who
use
the
building,
especially
staff,
who
are
here
every
day,
yes
and
Commissioners,
who
will
be
required
to
meet
in
person.
However,
it
would
not
resolve
many
other
issues
for
a
building
that
is
60
years
old,
built
to
serve
a
smaller
City
in
1963,
with
thousands
fewer
residents
we
are
literally
bulging
at
the
seams
needs
include
more
workspace,
more
meeting
space,
more
natural
lighting,
Ada
accessibility
and
an
HVAC
system
that
works
I
encourage
the
city
to
revisit
the
2022
meetings.
Meeting
space
decision.
J
Excuse
me
I
skipped
and
choose
a
long-term
investment
rather
than
a
short-term
repair,
as
this
new
city
hall
is
considered,
I
also
urge
you
to
think
about
adding
native
trees
and
plants
on
the
properties
surrounding
the
city
hall.
This
will
provide
an
example
for
all
residents
about
climate
change
and
how
each
of
us
can
be
a
part
of
the
solution
Solutions
such
as
actions
on
our
own
properties,
in
keeping
with
ideas
from
cupertino's
climate
action
plan
2.0.
Thank
you
for
this
time
to
speak.
K
Hello,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
this
evening,
so
my
name
is
Gary
latshaw
I'm
a
resident
at
Cupertino
I,
am
also
the
primary
author
of
the
letter
that
Sierra
Club
sent
with
regard
to
the
first
presentation
and
I
won't
say
the
first,
the
the
presentation
November
there
was
no
discussion
of
issues
having
to
do
with
climate
change,
no
discussion
of
conserving
from
the
standpoint
of
life
cycle
analysis
of
climate.
K
Moreover,
just
from
a
cost
perspective,
there
was
no
consideration
of
a
life
cycle
cost
of
what
a
new
building
versus
a
renovated
building
is
such
cost
analysis
will
be
difficult
to
make
because
the
climate
will
change.
K
It
will
probably
approach
the
temperature
profiles
during
the
summer
of
Phoenix,
Phoenix
may
become
unoccupiable,
and
so
I
really
encouraged
the
council
to
have
perhaps
somebody
more
expertise
in
modern
designs
that
taken
this
into
account,
taking
advantage
of
Sun
Life
or
heating,
the
cooling
that
happens
naturally
in
the
area
through
the
Marine
layer,
and
perhaps
they
use
the
solar
panels.
K
Etc
I
was
very
disappointed
in
the
first
presentation
in
November.
I'll
show
you
the
first,
but
also
very
disappointed,
as
I
have
given
public
presentations
before
actually
for
their
resources
board,
and
invariably
they
answer.
In
writing.
K
Objections
brought
forth
by
the
public
and
I,
don't
even
know
where
my
letter
or
the
Sierra
Club
letters
has
come.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
really
encourage
to
have
somebody
with
a
broader
expertise
than
it.
C
L
Evening,
city,
council
and
staff
I
had
a
prepared
speech,
but
what
I
really
want
to
tell
you
is
when,
when
people
go
to
buy
a
house,
they
first
figure
out
how
much
they
can
afford
and
I'm.
Not
seeing
this
there
were
several
council
members
bringing
up
questions
about
financing
and
that
wasn't
looked
at
the
last
City
Hall,
the
brand
new
one
was
so
over
the
top.
L
It
that's
why
it
didn't
pass.
That
was
too
much
money
first
figure
out
how
much
you
can
afford
before
you
even
think
about
what's
stable
right
now
we
are
in
a
recession.
The
city
may
lose
half
the
sales
tax.
It
currently
receives
costs.
Both
taxes,
fees,
food,
fuel,
Etc
are
increasing,
and
residents
can't
afford
to
pay
additional
costs
so
adding
something
to
the
residence
bees
is
not
going
to
go
over.
You
have
to
stay
physically
responsible,
I
support
the
renovation
and
the
the
risk
category
for
for
the
the
amount.
L
My
concern
is
cost
I,
don't
want
it
over
the
top.
I
don't
want
a
pallets.
We
don't
have
we're,
not
Kings.
We
want
something
that
is
usable
that
is
safe
for
the
employees
and
the
visitors,
and
that
does
the
job
and
right
now
that
2015
Civic
Center
analysis
is
eight
years
old.
It's
outdated
right
now,
parking
there's
not
as
many
employees
coming
in
we
use
teleconferencing
life
has
changed
significantly
since
the
pandemic
and
I
think
the
renovation
way
is
the
better
way
to
go
physically
responsible.
Thank
you.
M
M
M
It
makes
no
sense
to
spend
27.5
million
and
end
up
with
well
an
old
building,
that's
not
up
to
current
building
standards
and
remains
energy
inefficient.
Furthermore,
it
also
ignores
the
identifying
need
for
more
Library
parking.
Given
the
expected
increase
in
library
usage
with
the
library
expansion,
an
increase
in
population,
the
current
building
is
also
not
aligned
with
City
goals
on
sustainability.
You
know
we're
trying
to
see
ourselves
as
Leaders.
This
is
not
leading
I
urge
city
council
to
reject
the
cheap
option
and
the
cap
and
reopen
other
options
and
financing
Sunnyvale.
M
C
N
N
It
didn't
create
the
humongous
cost,
which
everyone
knows,
needs
to
be
reevaluated
at
this
time,
because
it's
not
going
to
be
near
the
70
million
from
before
it's
going
to
be
far
higher.
Where
does
that
money
come
from?
If
the
residents
aren't
allowed
to
vote
on
this,
it
seems
really
misguided
to
have
five
to
three
council
members
decide
that
that's
what's
going
to
happen
when
this
has
been
hashed
over
there's
been
a
well-qualified
subcommittee,
making
decisions
and
calculations
and
decisions
and
really
going
through
the
process.
N
N
Civic
Center
Which
is
far
include
many
of
the
things
that
sunnyvale's
doing
that
there's
more
money
going
to
be
spent
for
them.
To
finish,
why
I
mean
maybe
it's
just
the
stress-filled
push
your
kids
to
do
whatever
it
takes,
even
if
it
is
detrimental
to
them
and
a
family
to
maybe
it's
that
mentality,
but
that
mentality
really
needs
to
change.
N
We
have
no
reason
to
compete
with
Sunnyvale
if
Sunnyvale
can
give
information,
that's
one
thing,
but
the
attitude
that
Cupertino
would
be
second
class
if
they
didn't
have
something
better
than
Sunnyvale
It's
ludicrous,
and
this
calls
for
anything
moving
forward.
Any
decision
moving
forward
and
I
would
stress
we
should
not.
N
C
D
Good
evening,
I
hadn't
meant
to
come
down,
but
our
power
is
out
in
Rancho
in
Canada
and
it's
been
on
and
off
for
the
last
two
hours.
So
it
please
be
kind
to
people
who
may
be
having
to
try
to
come
in.
I
also
was
at
the
dentist
today.
I
have
to
have
a
tooth
pulled
tomorrow,
so
it
is
important
to
me
to
be
here
and
I'm
got
painkillers,
so
I'm
good
to
go
anyway.
D
You
know
what
I
have
sat
through
countless
hours
on
the
city
hall
renovation
I
mean
we're
going
back
to
2010.
and
we've
had
plans.
Then
we
had
a
developer
have
plans.
Then
we
had
another
plan
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
and
we
one
thing
is
for
sure
the
building
has
to
be
secured
for
earthquakes.
You
saw
what
happened
in
another
two
other
countries,
those
buildings
there's
a
very,
very
heavy
Spanish
tile
roof
on
the
building.
I
had
originally
thought
that
it
might
be
a
good
idea.
D
I
mentioned
this
probably
seven
years
ago
that
they
put
a
second
story,
in
my
mind,
is
over
build
so
that
you
have
room
in
the
years
to
come.
Cupertino
is
a
Powerhouse
nationally,
a
city
worldwide,
and
it
will
continue
to
grow.
You
don't
have
companies
like
apple
and
Steve
Jobs
and
not
become
the
face
of
the
world.
D
In
this
situation
we
need
to
have
our
staff
protected,
so
they're
not
going
to
have
problems
in
the
new
building,
I'm
very
happy
that
the
city
purchased
the
Annex
Building,
because
Cupertino
should
have
City
Halls
that
are
appropriate
to
what
we
are
I.
Think
Cupertino
is
the
center
Mark
of
the
entire
Silicon
Valley.
Yes,
I
actually
went
by
a
building
project.
Sunnyvale
has
today
when
we
were
going
to
the
dentist
on
El
Camino.
They
have
a
big
pile
of
debris,
that's
near
their
City,
Hall,
I
I.
D
Don't
know
what
to
tell
you
but
I'd
say
we
we're
gonna,
never
mind
what
our
governor
says:
we're
going
into
penny.
Pinching
time.
We
have
to
tighten
our
belts,
so
let's
stabilize
the
building,
make
sure
that
it's
safe.
We
had
a
lot
of
buildings
after
1989
earthquake,
Tech
buildings
that
were
secured.
There
was
a
brand
new
one
that
was
built
over
by
the
Apple
II
campus.
It
was
in
my
original
work
group.
It
was
brand
new
they
went
in
and
put
in
diagonal
bracing.
D
It
is
still
there
today
if
you
have
to
do
that
with
the
city
hall.
Do
it,
but
Cupertino
has
a
great
future
I,
don't
believe
in
developers
dictating
to
our
city
what
we
do,
etc,
etc.
That's
what
I
like
about
Apple
they
they
seem
to
like
Cupertino.
They
like
to
stay
here
and
they
don't
dictate
what
we
do.
We
honor
them,
but
they
do
not
demand
things
from
us.
Thank
you.
A
You
Mada
City
Kirk
I,
want
to
thank
all
the
public
comments.
Now,
let's
bring
it
back
to
Council
on
deliberation.
Does
anybody
want
to
make
emotion
in
a
second,
so
we
can
deliberate?
G
I
A
Okay,
do
we
have
a
second
for
it.
A
I'll,
second,
it
okay!
So
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second,
let's
open
for
discussion
for
five
minutes
for
each
council
member.
Please
do
we
have
okay,
Vice
Maya,
Mohan.
O
The
only
thing
about
the
motion
that
council
member
fruen
proposed
was
the
I
saw
the
number
80
000
square
feet,
and-
and
my
comment
was
that
I
really
wanted
to
reconsider
everything.
I'm
not
sure
80
000
is
is,
is
the
most
relevant
number
we
can
find
at
this
point.
O
So
so
my
thinking
on
this
is,
let's
look
at
a
completely
new
city
hall,
with
keeping
the
same
things
that
we
talked
about
I.
Think
in
2015,
was
it
2015?
Yes,
where
the
guiding
principles
of
2015
still
apply
and
I
can
quickly
go
through
those
guiding
principles,
primarily
employee
safety,
making
the
city
hall
much
more
than
just
a
house,
housing
employees
or
city
staff,
making
it
a
showcase
for
our
community,
making
it
a
state-of-the-art
building
for
which
which
showcases,
sustainability
and
clean
energy
a
model
for
efficiency?
O
And
these
are
all
the
things
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
incorporate
into
a
new
city
hall
at
this
time
and
and
so
I
would
like
a
a
complete
redesign
and
re-uh
yeah.
A
review
of
of
this
entire
project,
starting
from
the
ground
up,
but
primarily
employee
safety,
was
my
my
first
concern.
G
F
G
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you
and
also
through
the
mayor.
One
of
the
things
that
this
the
subcommittee
made.
A
note
of
was
that
we
found
that
it
was
actually
and
please
correct
me
that
it
was
actually
less
expensive
to
purchase
another
building
to
purchase
a
property
than
to
add
on
to
the
structure
and
then
also
with
regards
to
that
we
had
looked
at
the
parking
situation
and
how
to
expand
parking.
G
What,
in
your
estimation,
just
ballpark
figure
would
an
80
000
square
foot,
City
Hall
and
Civic
Center
with
a
500
guests
required
for
parking.
What
would
you
envision
there,
because
I
know
that
there
was
an
original
suggestion
to
have
a
three-story
parking
garage
off
to
to
our
our
East?
So
if
you
had
some
idea
about
that,
I'd
like
to
hear
it
and
yeah
we'll
start
with
that.
F
Thank
you,
I'm,
not
very
good
about
doing
calculations
on
the
fly,
I
believe
in
the
previous
funding
information.
The
cost
estimates
that
we
did.
We
had
cost
per
square
foot
that
those
numbers
were
very
rough
and,
as
I
added
a
footnote
onto
the
written
Communications
that
we
sent
through
yesterday.
F
G
You
and
then
for
adding
500
a
500
seat
facility
at
this
location.
What
could
you
estimate
would
be
the
the
parking
requirements
for
for
that.
F
So
there's
a
number
of
ways
to
handle
parking,
as
you
know,
other
we
looked
at
all
the
ways
that
it's
been
talked
about
in
the
past:
there's
underground
parking,
there's
bus
service
parking,
but
there's
also
the
possibility
of
leasing
space
off-site
to
cover
parking
as
well,
and
that
would
have
to
be
part
of
the
agreement.
F
But
I
I
couldn't
begin.
I
mean
the
when
we
did
the
parking
calculations,
I
think
it
was
another
230
dollar
230
dollars
a
square
foot
and
I
have
to
figure
out
how
much
that
ends
up
to
be
so.
Yes,
the
numbers
are
getting
there,
so
I
would.
If
I
may
address
the
funding
topic.
That's
come
up
to
date.
We
are
coming
back
to
council
to
confirm
direction.
We
didn't
have,
you
could
say,
questions
or
a
direction
to
look
into
anything
in
particular,
so
we
don't
have
answers
on
the
specifics
about
funding.
F
G
The
Ragnar
Creek
Trail
has
not
yet
opened,
and,
and
as
we
know,
that
was
a
pretty
controversial,
so
I
think
before
adding
a
large
parking
structure
which
this
would
require
would
even
should
even
be
on
the
table.
I
think
that
Community
should
definitely
be
noticed
about
this,
because
that's
going
to
cause
a
shadow,
shading
noise-
and
you
know
you
name
it
and
also
we're
we're
not
taking
into
consideration
that
Dan's
a
college
is
looking
for
feedback
right
now
for
their
new
Performing
Arts
replacement.
G
I
should
say
for
the
Flint
Center,
which
I
think
might
be
around
1500
seats,
so
I'm
not
really
sure
why
we
would
want
to
be
redundant
on
that
in
a
particularly
congested
area,
which
already
has
a
parking
problem.
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
that
we
that
we
reaffirmed
the
direction
previously
provided
for
the
city
hall
renovation
project
because
of
its
it
is
fiscally
conservative.
It
is
updating,
HVAC
and
moving
to
a
seismic
tier
4
level,
and
so
these
and
with
regards
to
the
Energy
Efficiency.
G
H
I
I
will
second
after
I
I
will
second
after
I
got
my
question
answered
for
the
proposed
motion.
Okay,.
A
H
Turn,
okay,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
how
much
money
we
have
and
how
many
other
projects
the
city
still
have
to
pay
for
the
service
center
mentioned
that
it
needs
updating.
A
lot
of
community
centers
in
the
various
Parks
also
need
updating
the
sports
center
of
these
need
renovation
and
I.
Think
I
have
asked
the
staff
for
this
delayed.
There
are
delayed
maintenance.
These
these
totals
are
probably
100
to
100
million
dollars.
H
I
had
asked
for
this
to
always
be
presented
with
zip
projects,
so
we
know
how
many
we
need
to
pay
for
down
the
line
and
so
I
think
the
the
new
council
members
probably
do
not
have
good
Visions
for
Cupertino.
So
I
would
like
to
understand
from
the
the
council,
member
foreign
and
the
mayor,
hongway
and
and
Sheila
Mohan
council
member
Mohan.
What's
your
vision
for
Cupertino?
Why
do
you
see
we
need
to
earn
80
000
square
feet
of
Office
Space?
H
A
So
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
gonna
ask
a
few
questions
on
the
staff.
I'm
gonna
take
my
five
minutes
here,
so
you
are
not
answering
like
sort
of
the
same
thing.
Okay,
so.
H
A
So
the
with
council
member
froons
recommendation
is
up
to
eighty
thousand
eighty
thousand
square
feet.
Does
that
give
staff
Clear
Directions?
It
could
have
a
few
options,
could
up
to
60
70
80,
or
does
that
give
us
flexibility
to
come
up
with
design
or
recommendations.
F
Thank
you,
since
we
are
in
process
right
now
developing
the
CIP
proposal.
It's
due
on
Friday
I.
We
can
put
a
placeholder
in
the
CIP
program.
We
do
not
have
the
time
or
resources
to
develop
anything
of
note
before
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
F
So
we
like
I,
said
we
could
put
a
placeholder
in
place
and
move
forward.
We
can
continue
that
discussion
when
we
come
back
with
the.
A
Ceo,
okay,
yeah,
so
I
I
see
the
for
both
the
emotion
has
some
flexibility
in
there.
So
it's
up
to
eighty
thousand,
it
doesn't
mean
it
has
to
be
80..
That's
my
first
question.
My
second
question
is
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
on
financing,
but
this
is
just
to
put
a
a
study
on
CIP.
The
financing
part
will
have
to
come
later,
with
research
and
and
reports.
Is
that
how
the
staff
envisioned
this.
F
I
believe
that,
there's
more
than
one
part
to
this.
A
F
The
CIP
part,
which
is
here's
their
project,
go
build
it,
but
there's
also
the
funding
and
the
real
estate
questions
that
what
makes
sense
where's
the.
What
are
the
projection
growths?
What's
supportable,
what's
efficient,
so
what
might
be
a
good
next
step
is
to
hire
Consultants,
who
have
that
market
and
real
estate
expertise,
as
well
as
perhaps
architects
who
can
give
designs
that
meet
that
expertise.
So
I
can
see.
That
would
be
what
the
next
year
might
take
up,
but
yeah.
A
Thank
you
so
that
what
analysis
will
come
later
right
now
to
answer
councilmember
child's
question.
I
do
believe
we
need
to
have
more
options.
I
understand
you
know,
I
went
through
the
the
process
and
I
I
learned
everything.
I
know
what
we
did
before
so
I
do
believe
that
there
are
a
few
things
we
need
to
consider.
You
know
the
asset
value
analysis
on
renovation
and
new
building.
There
is
a
difference
on
what,
whether
we
do
a
renovation
or
a
new
building
and
the
long-term
return
on
that
renovation
and
new
building.
A
These
are
all
things
we
need
to
consider
how
about
the
lead,
standard
and
green
initiative
champion
on
a
renovation
or
a
new
building
and
alignment
with
our
cap
2.0
on
the
renovation
versus
a
new
building,
so
I
I'm
gonna
say
that
I
did
vote
no
on
this
project
when
it
came
to
the
council
in
November,
so
I
I
really
believe
that
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
open
up
more
options
before
we
can
decide
what
I
see
is
it
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
do
the
27
million
dollars.
A
So
this
is
how
I
envisioned
the
processes,
when
you
have
more
options,
so
you'll
get
your
time
to
to
talk
okay,
so
I'm
answering
your
question
is
my
vision
or
why?
Why
I
advocate
for
for
opening
up
this
for
more
research
to
have
more
financing
part
of
it?
So
we
get
a
more
a
a
broader
picture
and
I
want
to
say
again.
This
is
not
just
my
vision.
A
A
We
need
to
have
more
options,
a
little
bit
more
research,
a
little
bit
more
options
so
as
to
take
a
look
at
the
whole
thing,
more
holistically
and
I
do
like
council
member
froome's
suggestion
in
the
motion
that
doesn't
have
to
be
in
the
city
hall,
but
the
the
staff
can
come
up
with
other
locations
that
the
city
has
to
kind
of
get
this
whole
holistic
view
of
what
we
have.
So
that's
what
I
do
that's
what
I
to
answer
your
question.
A
This
is
what
I
believe
we
need
to
have
more
in-depth
study
of
what
options
are
there
out
there?
The
renovation
is
still
an
option,
so
a
new
city
hall
of
how
big
is
whether
it's
be
70
000
square
feet,
whether
it
be
all
in
here
or
somewhere
else,
I
just
believe
that
we
need
to
have
more
options
and
the
financing
part
too.
A
I
Sure
so,
I
having
been
in
in
City
Hall
many
times
I,
it's
very
clear
to
me
that
that
people
are
having
to
work
in
very
tiny
conditions.
I
think
they
should
be
working
in
better
conditions
than
what
they
are
so
I
think
that
what
we
have
at
the
moment
is
already
subpar.
It
needs
to
be
improved,
looking
back
at
the
past,
which
is
why
I
brought
up
the
the
budget
at
a
glance.
It's
very
clear
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
grow
our
staffing
needs
as
the
city
grows.
I
We
have
a
housing
element
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
at
some
point
pass
that
will
facilitate
the
construction
of
you
know:
4588
new
homes,
that's
a
lot
of
homes.
It's
a
lot
of
new
people.
We
will
need
people
to
service
those
people
who
will
work
for
us
in
City,
Hall
and
elsewhere.
So
I
think
that
we
deserve
at
this
point
a
better
building,
I
think
we're
going
to
need
a
better
building,
and
this
isn't
about
you
know
keeping
up
with
the
Joneses.
I
It's
about
making
sure
that
we
have
something
that
we
can
be
proud
of.
I
I,
don't
think
that
the
building
that
we
have
right
now,
if
it
were
merely
renovated,
is
something
that
we
can
be
proud
of,
especially
if
you
know
we're
going
to
just
slap
on
a
Band-Aid
for
27
million
dollars.
I'd
encourage
you
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
staff
report
from
the
15th,
because
it
does
include
the
per
square
foot
cost
of
each
of
the
options
and
the
27
000
I'm.
I
Sorry,
the
27
million
dollar
option
which
Council
had
chosen
is
one
of
the
more
expensive
ones
on
a
per
square
foot
basis,
868
dollars
per
square
foot,
a
considerably
larger
building
that
was
70
000
square
feet
as
compared
to
the
24
000
square
feet.
Foot
building
that
that
exists
was
only
going
to
be
582
dollars
per
square
foot.
So
I
I'm
not
really
sure
that
the
fiscally
responsible
option
is
the
one
that's
simply
less
expensive
on
a
total
ticket
value.
I
I
think
it's
the
one
that's
going
to
give
us
the
best
value
for
money
in
the
long
run.
I,
don't
think
that
the
current
building
meets
that
and
I
think
that
we
can
satisfy
some
of
our
other
goals
and
plans
as
a
city,
for
example,
making
a
much
more
environmentally
Sustainable
Building
Etc,
and
what
other
you
know,
programming
uses
we
can
afford
to
put
into
the
space
that
the
community
has
a
demand
for,
and
one
of
those
is
a
larger
Gathering
space.
I
E
I
That
it's
very
simple
I'm,
simply
trying
to
provide
a
a
reasonable
scope
for
staff
so
that
there's
something
concrete
to
come
back
with.
Hence
also
the
reference
to
utilizing
the
the
options
that
were
previously
presented
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
completely
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
we
can
hopefully
get
somewhere
in
the
course
of
this
year.
A
Thank
you,
thank
you,
so
you
still
have
a
couple
minutes
and
so
council
member.
O
So
my
thinking
on
this
Mary
is
that
here
we
have
an
a
golden
opportunity
to
do
something
different,
none
of
us
I
think
is
going
to
be
spending
more
than
we
have,
but
there
are
all
kinds
of
interesting
financing
options
available
these
days
and
we
haven't
really
explored
that.
So
my
suggestion
is:
we
look
at
all
these
different
options
for
financing
for
design.
O
For
you
know
the
new
amenities
that
that
we
didn't
have
when
we
did
the
the
previous
study
and
and
the
market
has
changed,
the
world
has
changed
in
the
last
few
years.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
cannot
take
for
granted
which
were
displayed
in
previous
reports.
So
my
suggestion
is:
let's
look
at
the
parking,
which
has
always
been
an
issue
in
in
the
Civic
Center
area.
Let's
look
at
the
pla
the
parking.
Let's
look
at
Community
facilities,
which
we
can
accommodate.
O
Let's
make
sure
that
the
building
can
be
flexible
in
terms
of
maybe
adding
later
on.
If
what
we
have
is
not
sufficient,
be
environmentally
sustainable
and
and
just
make
sure
we
we
get
the
best
bang
for
the
buck.
I,
don't
think
that
there
is
any
any
of
us
are
going
to
want
to
build
something
that
we
cannot
afford.
So
so
that
I
am
not
too
concerned
about,
because
we
are
all
I
think
fairly
conservative
and
we
will
sort
of
make
sure
that
whatever
design
is
presented
to
us
meets
all
the
requirements.
G
First,
through
the
mayor,
I'm,
not
sure
I
heard
the
second
from
council
member
Chao.
Regarding
my
substitute
motion,
I
just
want
to
double
check
if
I.
If
that
did
happen,.
G
Okay,
so
we'll
get
further.
Okay,
so
I'll
make
my
comments
now
so
for
this
presentation,
I
think
it
would
have
been
particularly
helpful
if
we
had
the
images
of
the
current
city
hall
showing
the
well
perhaps
I
can
share
a
screen
I'm
going
to
try.
It
I
haven't
done
this
before.
P
G
It's
in
there
and
I'm
sharing,
screen,
I
think:
yes,
okay,
there
we
go
all
right
and
then
perhaps
if
Susan
could
walk
us
through
what
we're
looking
at,
for
instance,
on
the
right
hand,
side
that
area
in
the
middle
of
the
building
is
the
current
EOC
right
and
that
is
being
relocated
to
the
Tory
Avenue
Annex
and
that
will
have
a
really
actually
very
neat
Flex
space,
with
kind
of
like
an
eagle's
nest.
That's
able
to
look
over
the
the
main
floor
in
the
event
of
an
emergency.
G
So
that's
a
pretty
exciting
thing
that
came
out
of
the
of
the
subcommittee
research
and
now
looking
at
the
lower
floor
with
the
the
says,
the
61
seat,
now
I'm
wondering
if
that
is
including
the
the
areas
of
the
the
storage.
G
You
have
a
mapping
room,
mapping,
storage.
The
HVAC
has
multiple
older
structures,
machine
Machinery
in
there
that
would
be
condensed
down
so
I'm,
trying
to
understand
when
I'm
looking
at
the
downstairs,
what
what's
actually
being
counted
there,
because
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
that
space
could
be
freed
up,
and
probably
will
be.
Is
that
right?
G
Okay,
so
I'll
get
into
my
my
comments
here
so
going
back
to
the
recommendation
that
came
from
City
staff
to
the
City
Hall
subcommittee,
it
was
to
do
the
renovation.
That
was
the
recommendation
that
we
were
given
from
staff.
So
this
change
that's
happening
here.
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
it
is
a
change
from
certain
members
of
the
city
council
to
override
the
staff
recommendation
to
the
City.
Hall
subcommittee
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear.
It
was
also
mentioned
about
the
cdtfa
audit.
G
It
is
not
completed
and
it
can
result
in
a
30
million
dollar
reduction
in
Revenue
each
year
and
we
have
not
found
out
what's
what's
happening
with
that,
so
I,
you
know
talking
about
being
fiscally
conservative
if
you're
looking
at
a
risky
time,
so
you're
not
sure,
what's
going
to
happen
to
your
Revenue,
the
interest
rates
are
high.
This
is
not
a
time
to
issue
bonds
and
all
of
that
needed
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
G
The
city
does
not
need
to
have
a
500
seat
event
space
when
De
Anza
College
is
going
to
be
utilizing.
The
890
I'm
sorry
800
about
900
million
dollar
bond,
which,
which
was
passed
a
couple
of
years
ago
in
which
they
are
going
to
be
building
a
an
event
space
facility.
There
they've
got
ample
parking
there
already.
G
The
public
has
not
been
asked
what
they
would
like
to
have
their
money
spent
on
with
a
community
like
a
new
Aquatic
Center,
a
new
sports
facility,
the
city,
the
council,
has
kicked
the
can
down
the
road
on
this
seismic
issue
since
first
discovering
the
error
in
around
2005
to
2006,
and
here
we're
looking
at
spending
even
more
money
on
another
study,
so
I
hope
everybody
has
looked
at
the
city
hall
page
on
the
website,
with
all
of
the
documentation
that
has
gone
on
over
the
years.
So
much
money
has
been
spent
on
Consultants.
G
It
is
it's
it's!
It's
really
sad
and
we've
gotten
nowhere,
so
we
at
least
had
a
plan
with
the
27
million
to
move
on
to
a
tier
four
seismic
retrofit
secure
that
building
have
the
flexibility.
If
we
want
to
move
the
EOC
back
into
it,
that
we
could
do
that
and
improve
the
the
the
Ada
issues.
Reconfigure.
G
All
of
the
offices
there
provides
a
central
light
light
structure
from
above
change.
The
roofing
there
there's
so
much
that
could
be
done
to
that
building
and
make
it
definitely
with.
With
regards
to
the
climate
action
plan,
2.0
issue.
We
have
to
be
compliant
with
that
as
well.
We
are
responsible
as
stewards
for
our
communities
money
and
we
need
to
support
the
staff
and
their
safety.
G
The
plan
that
we
had
the
tier
four
renovation
takes
care
of
that
we
are
I'm
going
to
mention
this
again,
we're
in
a
high
interest
environment
and
we
are
already
paying
500
000
per
month,
servicing
the
debt
that
we
have,
and
this
just
looks
like
we're,
trying
to
pile
more
onto
it
when
we
need
to
improve
the
Public
Works,
Yard,
Memorial,
Park,
Sports,
Center
and
plan
for
recreational
areas
for
the
future
residents,
while
the
staff
is
often
working
remotely
and
some
are
working
completely
remotely
not
even
coming
in.
Thank
you.
H
Yeah
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
the
industry
standard
is
going
to
is
moving
to
have
smaller
and
more
flexible
work
quarters.
The
current
work
quarter
that
in
the
city
hall,
is
significantly
larger
per
workspace
than
the
industry
standard.
I
think
it's
like
50,
more
per
employee.
So
if
we
renovate
the
city
hall
to
utilize
a
more
modern
workspace,
we
actually
can
accommodate
more
employees
with
the
same
space
and
also
that
I
would
like
to
know
what
would
be
the
delay.
H
I
think
we
know
that
Steph
is
concerned
of
the
earth
safety
and,
with
the
current
approve
the
plan,
we
expect
to
finish
Construction
in
two
years.
That
means
in
2026
we
will
have
an
brand
new
earthquake,
safe,
City
Hall,
then,
with
a
whole
new
plan.
That
means
we
will
need
to
do
Outreach
likely
to
a
SQL
analysis
where
it's
just
500
and
with
with
this
many
increase
in
space.
So
how
much
estimated
time
it
will
take
to
eventually
even
come
up
with
a
plan.
E
E
H
Then
best,
based
on
past
experience
in
2015,
that
approved
the
plan,
I
think
it
took
two
years
of
on
Outreach
revieging.
Eventually
a
council
approval
and
then
the
council
decides
they
couldn't
come
up
with
the
financing
option
that
works
for
them.
So
we
are
going
to
repeat
the
same
process
and
further
delay
the
renovation
of
the
city
hall
to
make
it
earthquake
safe.
That's
the
current
proposal,
so
I
would
like
second
council
member,
more
motion
to
reaffirm
the
council's
decision.
So.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
substantive
motion:
that's
being
motioned
by
councilman
Moore,
second,
by
council
member
Chao.
Do
we
have
more
input
so
before
we
vote?
What
I
would
like
to
emphasize
is
I
think
the
timeline,
the
financing
that
options
I
would
like
to
see
those
options
and
I
do
think.
Councilmember
froons
proposal
is
flexible
enough
that
the
staff
can
come
up
with.
You
know
maybe
two
or
three
plans
so
that
we
can
really
look
at
everything.
A
That's
out
there
that's
possible
and
vice
mayor
mohan's
suggestions
that
you
know
we
look
at
what's
available
out.
There
I
just
believe
that
spent
27
million
dollars
to
renovate
an
old
building.
It
is
sort
of
a
you
know,
Patchwork
right.
So
if
we
want
to
look
at
something
long-term
for
the
next
20
50
years,
I
like
to
have
some
options
to
check
it
out.
So
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
can
we
start
a
vote
before
we
have
any
any
more
comments.
G
Yes,
so
I
I
really
appreciate
council
member
Chow's
comments,
particularly
with
regards
to
earthquake,
and
we
and
the
eir
issue.
G
H
Microphone
was
involved,
have
been
attending
council
meeting
since
2014-16
I
find
that
this
Council
in
the
past
had
considered.
There
was
a
Stevens
Creek
the
same
plan
and
it
was
estimated
to
be
40
million
and
then
50
million
and
then
70
million
and
then
dropped.
The
council
keep
considering
plans
spending
time
on
consultant
to
make
up
plans
before
they
even
know
they
can
afford
it
and
then,
after
they
have
the
plan,
they
first
go
out.
Imagine
really
big
the
past
Council
project
in
2013,
the
first
virgin
was
going.
H
The
options
were
costing
like
200
million
dollars.
They
come
came
to
the
council.
After
all,
the
Outreach
imagine
a
lot
with
really
nice
things
on
this
in
in
this
Civic
Center
space,
and
then
the
council
that
200
million
is
too
much
they
reduce
the
scope,
came
back
and
then
three
options
the
to
renovate
only
and
up
to
a
new
city
hall,
and
the
cost
estimate
was
around
from
50
million
to
70
million.
That
Council
then
choose
70
million
dollars.
So
I'm
concerned
that
we
are
going
back
again
during
the
same
work.
H
A
So,
thank
you
for
the
history.
Let's
hope
that
we
don't
repeat
that
history
I
councilmember.
Do
you
want
to
say
something?
No
you're
good.
So
please
make
quick.
So
we
can.
G
Yeah,
yes,
thank
you,
I
think.
That's
a
really
good
point
council
member
Chao,
and
when
we
look
at
the
Grand
Jury
report,
the
house
divided.
They
mentioned
that
that
staff
was
concerned
that
the
city
council
wasn't
showing
their
care
for
their
safety
in
this
the
city
hall,
building
and
again
we're
we're
pushing
this
off
they're
saying
we
have
over
a
65
percent
chance
of
having
a
a
earthquake
magnitude
like
6.7
or
greater
in
our
in
our
future
and
I.
I.
G
Think
that
we
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that
fact,
and
and
not
kick
this
down
the
road.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
G
A
H
So
one
final
comment:
I
think
our
we
should
not
be
driven
by
our
ego
to
be
the
best,
the
brightest
and
then
and
to
be
the
better
than
any
other
City.
We
should
be
driven
by
how
much
we
can
available
and
then
the
current
plan
will
we
will
have
a
renovate
the
earthquake,
safe,
City
Hall
by
2026,
and
that's
always.
A
A
Already
so
we're
ready
to
vote
right?
Okay,
let's
substitute.
A
We're
looking
voting
for
the
subject
motion,
let's
vote
by
light.
A
So
now
we're
going
back
to
the
council
member
froons
motion.
Anybody
want
to
make
more
comments.
O
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment,
while
there
some
of
the
numbers
that
council
member
more
talked
about,
while
many
of
those
may
be
relevant
and
may
still
apply
to
today,
there's
a
lot
that
we
don't
know.
Things
have
changed
dramatically
in
the
last
few
years,
so
my
hope
is
that
a
consultant
will
give
us
all
these
options.
You
know
including
price
and
square
footage
and
employee
Workforce
and
a
state
of
the
economy
in
the
city
in
in
the
region
and
also
include
the
option
of
staying
with
the
recommendation.
A
A
You
know
post-pointed
get
it
for
two
years
we
learned
from
the
past
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
could
provide
more
options
and
let
the
city,
council
and
staff,
and
also
the
public
really
get
to
into
what
options
do
we
have
so
I,
don't
believe,
that's
going
to
be
a
five-year
delay.
So
that's
what
I
believe
the
flexibility
in
council
member
of
rooms,
emotion,
is
it's
a
good
way
for
the
staff
to
kind
of
go
with
the
CIP
plan
and
come
back
with
recommendations.
G
So,
according
to
the
third
uniform
California
earthquake
rupture
forecast
report
in
the
next
30
Years
beginning
in
2014,
there
is
more
than
a
99
chance
that
one
or
more
6.7
or
greater
earthquake
will
strike
somewhere
in
California
a
75
percent
chance
that
one
or
more
7.0
or
greater
earthquake
will
strike
Southern
California
and
a
76
percent
chance.
One
or
more
7.0
or
greater
earthquake
will
strike
in
Northern
California.
G
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
on
the
record
that
I
my
motion
and
the
support
that
I
received
from
council
member
with
ciao
were
to
move
forward
to
have
a
tier,
4
seismic
designed
remodel
of
the
building
that
could
that
would
be
on
the
CIP
work
program
for
this
year
and
get
get
working
on
to
finally
show
the
care
and
concern
that
the
city
staff
has
mentioned
and
in
the
grand
jury
report
that
they
do
not
feel
that
they
are
getting
from
city
council.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
so
all
the
more
we
need
to
work
fast.
So
do
we
have
any
more
comments?
People
we
go
to
a
vote
by
light.
No,
so
can
we
go
by
like
thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
our
official
meeting
doesn't
start
until
6
45.
We
have
a
break
until
6
45
all
right.
We
have
a
half
an
hour
break.
Thank
you.
A
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A
Thank
you.
There
is
no
close
action
items
to
report
I
like
to
speak
a
little
bit
before
we
go
to
the
ceremony
items
I
like
to
make
a
short
statement:
honorable
February
as
Black
History
Month,
every
February.
They
use
the
U.S
honors
the
contributions
and
sacrifices
of
African
Americans,
who
have
helped
shape
the
nation
Black
History
Month
celebrates
the
rich
cultural
heritage,
triumphs
and
adversities
that
are
an
indelible
part
of
our
country's
history.
This
year's
thing
black
Health
and
Wellness
pay
homage
to
Medical
Scholars
and
health
care
providers.
A
The
thing
is
especially
timing
as
we
enter
the
third
year
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
which
has
this
approximately
affected
minority
communities
and
place
unique
burdens
on
black
Healthcare
professionals.
So
we
like
to
celebrate
February
as
black
history
month.
Thank
you
very
much.
Now
we're
going
to
into
our
ceremony
items
and
first
we
would
like
to
recognize
recognize
the
2022
stamp
winners
from
the
city
of
Cupertino
who
participated
in
the
Sankara
County
2022
synopsis,
Championship
science
fair.
There
are
36
winners
from
Cupertino,
let's
give
them
a
round
of
applause.
Thank
you.
A
A
R
And
the
city
has
graciously
done
that
so
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
I
want
to
thank
the
council
members
I
want
to
thank
Laura
for
all
the
work
that
she
did.
Putting
all
this
together.
Notifying
you
sending
messages
out
to
you
and
I
want
to
thank
the
parents
and
the
students,
most
of
all
for
your
work.
You've
done
outstanding
work
and
we
want
to
showcase
that.
R
A
Will
set
first
I
would
like
to
congratulate
all
the
students.
You
are
our
next
Generations
of
Hope
and
for
quick.
We
could
not
give
you
each
certificate,
but
it's
in
here
for
a
quick
photo
up.
Could
all
the
students
come
up
here?
Please.
R
Q
A
A
A
This
is
the
best
Ikebana
Masters
that
were
honoring
right
here
and
Miss
fusaka
actually
taught
teachers
at
Fremont,
Union,
High,
School,
District's,
adult
school
and
they're
going
to
have
a
beautiful
display
in
the
first
week
of
March,
Saturday
and
Sunday
at
quilling
community
centers,
please
do
see
this
every
year
is
beautiful,
but
I'm
pretty
sure.
On
the
fifth
anniversary,
it's
going
to
be
even
more
spectacular,
which
is
say
a
few
words
please.
S
S
A
O
P
A
A
Because
we
have
the
new
procedures
in
place,
so
I
like
to
remind
the
public
that,
if
you
like
to
make
oral
Communications,
including
the
information
items
in
the
back
of
the
agenda,
you
can
make
oral
communication
here
right
here
in
on
the
back
of
the
gender
of
information
items.
Another
reminder
is
when
we
go
to
item
number
10
the
grand
jury
report,
because
this
is
a
continuing
item
from
the
last
city
council
meeting
the
staff
report.
The
council
already
asked
questions
and
public
comments
already
be
done.
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D
Welcome
hi,
I'm,
Jennifer
Griffin
I've,
never
seen
anything
like
this
in
23
years,
where
the
public
is
supposed
to
compress
everything
that
they
want
to
talk
about
in
their
City
Council
meetings,
their
City
Council
meetings,
the
public
city
council
meetings,
not
the
staff,
not
the
elected,
you
all
are
elected.
You
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
the
public.
D
I,
never
thought
that
I'd
be
pushed
having
to
talk
to
everything
on
this
agenda
in
three
minutes,
but
I'm
gonna
do
it
because
I
have
23
years
and
yes,
I
had
parliamentary
in
high
school
I
headed
to
Anza,
College
and
I,
had
it
at
San,
Jose,
State,
I,
know
parliamentary
law.
Okay,
we're
going
to
talk
about
Builders
remedy
right
now.
Builders
remedy
is
threatening
intimidating
cities
across
this
state.
Los
Altos
Hills
has
three
Builders
remedies
that
have
been
submitted
and
they
got
their
housing
element
in
on
time.
D
So
what
does
that
say
about
intimidation,
a
city?
Does
everything
that
the
hcd
and
the
governor
wants
them
and
they're
still
threatened
with
Builders
remedy?
One
of
them
is
above
the
Foothill
College
in
an
area
that
was
evacuated
almost
last
summer
because
of
wildfire
I
I
won't
even
go
on
out
any
further
okay.
So
let's
talk
about
grand
jury.
I'm
really
really
concerned
about
this,
because
okay
I'm
doing
pretty
good
I've
got
one
minute
and
31
seconds
all
right.
Number,
10,
grand
jury
I'm
really
really
concerned
that
this
was
a
setup.
D
I
I'm
really
really
concerned
about
this.
Also
I
still
don't
know
what
about
the
square
footage
at
Main,
Street
number,
13.,
I,
don't
know
what
an
informational
item
is.
I
haven't
been
able
to
talk
about
it,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it,
and
if
somebody
wants
to
shut
me
up,
they
can
I
sat
for
five
years
on
the
deliberations
for
Main
Street.
D
There
were
we
all
put
our
time
in
okay,
yes,
but
what
happens
is
that
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
we
want
to
up
the
restaurant
quota
well,
I'm,
so
I'm,
sorry,
Main
Street
was
floated
on
the
idea
that
we
were
replacing
retail
that
was
lost
at
velco
destroyed
at
velco.
So
no
you
want
to
put
more
I
I,
don't
I
tried
to
shop
in
Cupertino,
but
frankly,
it's
a
hassle,
there's
a
beautiful
new
Target
store
in
Scotts
Valley
and
I
shop.
D
There
I
avoid
Cupertino
shopping
as
much
as
possible,
because
there's
no
retail,
you
know
I'm
sorry
I've
got
nine
seconds,
but
I
have
never
in
my
life,
seen
anything
like
what
happened
to
our
agenda,
etc,
etc.
In
the
last
two
months,
what.
B
C
You,
okay,
I,
have
don
Halsey,
followed
by
Richard
mellinger,
followed
by
Lisa
Warren.
J
A
J
What
I
wanted
to
speak
good
evening
mayor
way
vice
mayor,
Mohan
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Connie
Cunningham
I'm
a
long
time
resident
of
Cupertino
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Housing
Commission
speaking
for
myself.
Only
sadly,
we
are
still
recovering
from
prior
leadership
that
has
greatly
damaged
our
reputation,
including
the
past
actions
of
planning.
Commissioner
R
Wang
I
am
here
to
urge
Council
to
remove
our
Wang.
All
Commissioners
are
required
to
follow
the
guidelines
and
rules
in
the
commissioner's
handbook
dated
2021
and
the
code
of
ethics.
Reference
to
it
in
dated
2020.
J
Commissioners
are
required
to
avoid
directing
or
prioritizing
work
for
departments
or
individual
staff.
Commissioners
are
required
to
refrain
from
abusive
conduct,
personal
charges
or
verbal
attacks
on
the
character
or
motives
of
others,
including
members
of
the
staff
in
two
separate
instances,
I
have
personally
witnessed
and
recorded
in
writing
or
video
are
Wang
violating
these
policies.
After
I
finish
speaking,
I
will
send
to
council
the
emails
and
videos
of
those
violations
on
February
17
2021.
J
Then,
chair
of
the
planning
commission,
R
Wang
sent
an
email
to
the
city
manager
and
copied
four
of
the
council
members
at
that
time:
Darcy
Paul
Lang,
Chao,
Kitty,
Moore
and
John
Willy
in
this
email
he
made
a
formal
complaint
of
a
highly
placed
staff
member.
This
formal
complaint
was
his
opinion
about
the
character
and
motives
of
that
staff.
Member
at
commission
meeting.
He
did
not
limit
himself
to
actions
at
the
meeting
but
went
on
to
hope
that
their
actions
did
not
represent
how
the
staff
member
might
feel
about
other
people,
including
residents
orwang.
J
Then
chair
took
a
public
and
hostile
position
on
a
matter
that
should
have
been
discussed
in
a
private
meeting
with
the
mayor.
Even
though
not
an
addressee
I
saw
this
email
because
council
member
Liang
Chao
forwarded
that
message
on
that
very
day
or
the
very
next
day
to
all
housing
Commissioners
asking
for
our
opinion
of
how
this
staff
member
treated
us
when
discussing
the
same
agenda
item
at
our
meeting.
Therefore,
five
other
people
were
part
of
something
that
was
not
intended
for
them.
J
Tessa,
Parish,
government
and
I
see
both
and
I
were
all
on
that
email.
Liang
said
that
she
hadn't
heard
from
any
of
us
about
this
issue.
She
said,
then,
that
the
council
couldn't
do
anything
about
this
kind
of
behavior
if
we
didn't
bring
it
up
to
the
council.
In
writing.
I
replied
in
writing
that
our
meeting
went
very
well.
J
Excuse
me
at
a
Planning,
Commission
meeting
and
I
attended
as
a
resident
several
times
during
that
meeting,
he
devalued
the
work
of
several
people
working
on
the
housing
element,
site
selection,
after
being
advised
by
the
City
attorney
that
the
agenda
was
on
the
site
selection,
not
a
performance
appraisal.
Rwong
talked
over
the
attorney
while
he
was
talking
and
several
times
thereafter
again
gave
his
negative
opinion
on
performance
loud
and
hostile.
In
writing.
I
notified
all
council
members
with
clips
of
the
video
I,
received
a
comment
from
council
member
Moore.
J
T
C
U
U
U
There's
a
gremlin
here
in
Prior
meetings.
There
was
a
lady
who
spoke
of
bluebirds
red
tail
hawks
blue
herons,
Blackberry
Farm.
She
said
they
were
there.
Another
person
commented
to
the
city
council
last
meeting.
What
can
the
city
council
do
to
increase
biodiversity
and
conserve
water?
We're
going
to
address
those
questions
in
the
prior
time.
I
was
up
here,
presented
to
scholarly
studies,
studies
that
showed
that
golf
courses
are
more
biodiverse
than
neighboring
green
spaces.
Two
different
studies,
the
golf
courses,
one
every
time.
U
Now,
let's
bring
it
back
to
local,
you
know,
maybe
that
doesn't
apply
we'll
find
out.
There's
a
little
trigger
warning
here.
It's
because
there
are
some
cute
young
animal
photos
in
case
that
emotionally
affects
some
people
just
to
avert
your
eyes.
One
of
the
folks
who
plays
golf
regularly
at
the
Blackberry
Farm
is
a
nature
photographer
and
he's
provided.
These
are
the
bluebirds
that
the
lady
talked
about.
Okay,
they're
actually
getting
established
there.
This
is
the
2022
crop,
here's
the
2021
crop.
You
know
you
can
see
another
ones
on
the
little
chicks
in
there.
U
So
that's
the
bluebirds
over
here
you'll,
see
on
the
top
left
is
the
the
red-tailed
hawk
and
several
of
the
Blue
Heron.
So
we
see
now
those
birds
that
she
talked
about,
but
that's
not
all,
there's
coyotes
and
skunks,
and
pheasants
and
deer
lots
of
biodiversity
there
and
that's
not
all
that's
another
kind
of
Nighthawk
here,
a
possum
and
the
deer.
We
got
plenty
of
biodiversity
at
the
golf
course,
so
we
can
still
make
it
more.
This
is
a
graph
of
the
water
level
in
the
reservoir
at
Stevens.
U
Creek,
it's
pretty
low,
okay
compared
to
the
capacity
goes
up
in
January,
comes
down,
goes
up
in
January
comes
down,
it
got
so
high.
This
January
we
hit
90
percent
and
they
started
flushing
out
water
into
the
bay.
That's
a
terrible
waste
of
water.
So
what
should
we
do?
We
should
fill
the
ponds
at
the
golf
course
which
brings
back
the
net,
the
wildlife
and
the
ponds
percolate
into
the
aquifer,
which
is
low,
and
we
need
to
raise
it
up.
It's
a
win-win.
U
U
C
You
thank
you,
and
so
we
have
four
speaker
cards
in-house
and
we
have
eight
people
who
had
their
hands
raised
within
the
nine
minute
cut
off.
So
just
a
time
check,
mirror
that'll,
bring
us
to
an
additional
36
minutes
and
we've
spent
about
12
minutes
so
based
on
the
council
procedures
handbook,
you
may
choose
to
cut
off
at
the
30
minute
time
or
do
you
do
you
want
to
go
the
full
48
minutes
that
we
have
foreign,
so
I
should
say
36
minutes
left
remaining
with
all
the
speakers
with.
C
V
Good
evening,
mayor
way
and
honorable
council
members,
my
name
is
Richard
mellinger.
You
received
a
letter
from
me
earlier
today.
I
have
the
profound
honor
to
serve
as
council
member
for
the
City
of
Sunnyvale
District
5,
though
I
wish
to
State
very
clearly
that
I'm
speaking
solely
on
my
own
behalf
and
not
that
of
the
City
of
Sunnyvale
or
any
other
organization
in
2019,
I
wrote
a
tweet,
criticizing
Planning
Commission,
chair,
Ray
Wong
for
writing.
A
next-door
post
calling
on
residents
to
quote
save
the
suburbs
from
an
onslaught
of
anarchists
and
yimby
neoliberal
fascists.
V
V
Wang
responded
to
my
tweet
on
Nextdoor
by
saying:
well,
that's
fun
smiley
face
we'll
have
to
talk
to
Richard's
employer.
He
went
on
next
time.
You
get
harassed
by
a
yimby
track
down
their
employer
and
send
their
HR
legal
and
CEO
a
letter
outlining
their
yimby
stance
and
all
their
tweets,
their
digital
and
social
com
to
show
their
lack
of
Civility.
It
goes
a
long
way
to
getting
them
reprimanded
and,
in
some
cases,
a
dose
of
reality.
V
V
When
this
became
apparent
Mr,
it
appeared
at
the
time
that
Mr
Wang
was
in
a
dispute
with
her
over
a
proposed
water
recycling
plant
and
was
seeking
to
discredit
her
when
contacted
by
the
Press
over
this
incident.
He
stated
I
believe
developer
instance,
interest
for
recycled
water,
hacked
my
network
and
allegedly
framed
me.
Despite
extensive
reporting,
no
action
was
taken
by
the
Cupertino
city
council,
not
long
after
this
incident.
Mr
Wang
again
found
himself
in
the
news
this
time
for
threatening
yet
another
critic
with
a
frivolous
defamation
suit.
V
Yet
again,
no
action
was
taken
by
the
Cupertino
city
council,
but
in
2021,
despite
this
track
record
of
bad
behavior,
this
Cupertino
city
council
voted
to
reappoint
Mr
Wang
to
the
Planning
Commission
Ray
Wong's
actions
constitute
a
clear
pattern
of
behavior.
This
is
a
man
who
constituent,
consistently
and
habitually
seeks
to
intimidate
his
critics
into
silence.
V
His
behavior
creates
a
chilling
effect
on
freedom
of
speech
within
Cupertino
and
the
region
where
those
upset
about
the
actions
of
their
government
and
public
officials
must
now
weigh
whether
speaking
out
is
worth
the
risk
of
harassment,
lawsuits
and
job
termination
worse.
He
has
made
a
mockery
of
his
oath
of
office
to
uphold
the
Constitution
by
actively
seeking
to
suppress
freedom
of
speech,
the
core
freedom
on
which
our
democracy
is
built.
V
C
B
N
You
so
I
was
pleased
to
see
Forest
Williams
here
tonight
and
it
reminded
me-
and
this
is
a
good
time
to
say
it-
the
first
time
I
met
him.
He
was
a
city
council,
member
in
San
Jose.
He
was
about
25
years
ago,
I
believe
around
about
and
a
quote
that
I
use,
often
that
came
from
Mr
Williams
is
a
good
project
in
the
wrong
place,
is
a
bad
project
and
I
use
it.
Some
of
you
have
heard
it
before,
but
seeing
him
reminded
me
to
just
say
it
once
again
so
I
city
clerk.
N
So
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
about
an
informational
item.
The
Main
Street
item
and
I
have
lots
of
comments
that
can
come
later
or
I
can
send
in.
But
I
just
want
to
make
this
public
that
the
proposed
there's
a
proposal
that's
being
studied,
and
the
proposed
thing
is
an
a
proposed
entertainment
use.
Replacing
the
former
Target
building
the
Main
Street
mixed-use
Center
has
proposed
to
replace
the
now
vacant
Target
space
with
a
new
entertainment
use.
N
This
is
straight
from
a
draft
report
from
a
consultant
the
entertainment
may
use
Glory,
including
bowling
indoor,
golf,
electric
shuffleboard
ping,
pong
tables
and
our
pool
tables.
In
addition
to
the
entertainment
activities,
the
space
would
include
2500
square
feet
of
dining
and
38
50
square
feet
of
bar
or
lounge
space.
The
total
square
footage
of
the
tenant
space
is
21,
380.
I
thought
it
was
closer
to
2200,
but
that's
just
a
snippet
from
the
20.
N
But
if
this
moves
forward
to
anything
well,
hopefully
it
will
come
to
Planning
Commission
in
city
council,
because
it's
been
going
on
since
before
May,
and
the
only
reason
we
heard
about
it
is
because
the
council
member
requested
information
about
it
and
that's
why
I
was
a
information
memory
memo
which
we
now
can't
speak
to
so
I
think
people
need
to
remember
what
Main
Street
was
meant
to
be
what
Main
Street
was
sold
to
be
the
immense
participation
by
the
community
that
you
people
beg
for
all
the
time.
Why
don't
we
hear
from
anybody?
N
N
N
W
Good
evening,
council
members
and
two
thought
I'm
going
to
take
a
step
back
in
history
as
I.
Somehow
sometimes
do
it
because
I've
been
a
Cupertino
resident
for
40
years
and
I
Faithfully
read
the
general
plan
in
2006,
the
planning
department
recommended-
and
this
was
upheld
by
the
Planning
Commission,
to
not
allow
Public
Storage
to
replace
its
one-story
building
with
a
three-story
project.
That
would
be
three
times
the
existing
footprint
sometime
around
2016.
That
building
was
replaced
by
a
four-story
building
and
having
about
a
four
top
four-fold
footprint.
W
The
reason
for
its
rejection
is
because
that
area
called
the
north
De
Anza
special
area
doesn't
have
Public
Storage
as
one
of
its
uses
as
Self
Storage
I
should
say,
and
in
other
words
putting
in
a
self
storage.
There
was
and
was
an
intensification
of
a
non-conforming
use.
So
now
we
have
this
very
large
building
and
it
was
supposed
to
resemble
an
office
building
and
doesn't
on
one
side
it's
very
nondescript.
It
looks
kind
of
like
a
warehouse
perhaps
and
on
the
other
side
I
would
say
it
looks
like
a
Penitentiary.
W
It's
it
has
these
orange
blobs
on
it
and
orange
doors.
It's
been
illuminated
at
night
and
now
adding
insult
to
injury.
There's
a
plan
which,
unfortunately,
you
voted
for
on
February
7
to
erect
a
large
illuminated
sign.
So
we're
not
allowed
to
show
plans
here
so
I,
I
kind
of
came
up
with
a
visual
here,
so
you
can
get
an
idea
as
to
the
size.
So
this
is
would
be
about
51.4
feet.
You
might
have
seen
me
tape
off
this
building,
while
this
evening
the
width
of
this
room
is
about
51.51
or
so
feet.
W
The
height
of
that
sign
would
be
11
and
a
half
feet
and
I'm
probably
going
to
bend
my
ruler
here,
but
there
we
go
so
I
can't
even
get
it.
Imagine
somebody
who's
about.
Maybe
six
foot,
seven
standing
on
my
shoulders
and
that's
how
high
it
would
be.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is,
is
you
weren't
told
how
big
this
time
would
be
because
they
only
gave
you
the
area
of
the
sign?
W
Here's,
the
here's,
the
building
on
the
freeway.
The
other
thing
that
you
were
not
told
is
that
it
would
directly
face
residents.
You
have
now
heard
from
maybe
a
dozen
or
so
of
these
residents,
some
who
are
worried
about
their
children
because
they
would
be
subject
to
the
illumination
until
11
o'clock
at
night.
Many
of
these
residents
do
not
have
English
as
their
first
language.
Many
of
them
are
renters.
Many
of
them
aren't
even
voters.
They
don't
think
they
have
a
voice,
so
I'm
hoping
to
speak
for
them.
X
Hello
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
Neil
Park,
mcclintic
I'm,
a
Cupertino
resident
and
also
the
president
of
Cupertino
for
all
I
grew
up
here
as
a
child,
a
teenager
and
now
an
adult.
This
community
means
a
lot
to
me
and
because
of
this
I
believe
we
are
home
to
some
of
the
brightest
and
most
compassionate
Minds
in
the
state.
X
Unfortunately,
we
are
also
still
recovering
from
prior
leadership
mistakes
that
have
greatly
damaged
our
reputation,
including
the
past
actions
of
planning,
commissioner
R
Wong,
and
that
is
why
I'm
here
today
to
voice
my
strong
support
for
the
removal
of
planning.
Commissioner
R
Wong
I
just
want
to
share
that
when
I
came
up
here
to
decide
to
whether
or
not
to
speak,
to
call
accountability
for
this
planning.
X
X
Community
members
should
not
be
scared
to
speak
up
for
fear
that
they
might
be
personally
attacked,
that
their
livelihood
might
be
damaged
and
I
want
that
to
just
sit
in
the
minds
of
council
members
today,
because
this
is
someone
who
has
been
in
one
of
the
highest
positions
of
power
in
the
city
for
years.
Residents
have
come
and
spoken
up
demanded
action
and
nothing
has
been
done
for
Cupertino
and
our
democracy
to
truly
move
forward,
to
be
open
to
be
fair,
where
all
voices
feel
valued
and
respected.
X
X
X
Commissioner
Wong
also
spreads
rampant
misinformation,
for
example,
when
the
city
sought
to
fix
a
density
bonus
ordinance
to
comply
with
state
law.
He
compared
it
to
the
freed
and
Democratic
elections
in
the
Soviet
Union.
He
also
said
that
homelessness
was
a
conspiracy
that
was
manufactured
by
some
individuals.
This
is
not
someone
who
should
be
on
the
most
powerful
bodies
in
Cupertino,
let
alone
making
decisions
about
housing.
X
C
Thank
you
Neil
and
mayor.
As
I
mentioned
earlier.
As
per
the
new
Council
handbook
rules,
moral
Communications
is
limited
to
30
minutes.
Unless
the
council
wishes
to
choose
to
extend
it
past
30
minutes
remove
the
remaining
speakers
to
the
end
of
the
agenda.
We
are
we've,
We've
21
minutes
have
have
elapsed
and
we
have
eight
speakers
on
Zoom.
So
that
would
be
an
additional
24
minutes
was.
A
A
We
have
a
second
second,
let's
vote
by
light.
C
C
Z
Can
can
you
hear
me
yes,
hi
good
evening
my
name
is
Vanessa
techmansky
I'm,
a
30-year
Cupertino
resident
I
wanted
to
voice
my
disappointment
with
the
February
7th
Council
vote
to
allow
the
600
square
foot
non-conforming
bright
orange.
Illuminated
Public
Storage
sign
it's
three
times
over
our
City's
200
square
foot
limit
and
it's
on
Scenic,
280.,
I
I
think
that
the
measurements
given
were
just
of
the
letters
not
the
whole
sign.
The
letters
are
200
square
feet.
I
think
the
whole
sign
is
600
square
feet.
Z
If
I
I
understand
correctly
I
know
the
mayor
said:
the
council's
hands
were
tied
in
this
approval
and
I'm,
not
quite
sure
why
that
would
be.
Z
Was
Council
made
aware
of
the
actual
size
of
the
sign
or
that
they
didn't
even
have
to
vote
for
one
of
the
two
sign
options
or
that
the
self
storage
bill
building
was
rejected.
The
first
time
around
for
non-compliance
with
our
general
plan
and
then
later
approved
with
the
understanding
that
both
the
building
and
signage
needed
to
be
compatible
with
the
aesthetic
character
of
the
surrounding
area,
and
it
should
be
designed
to
protect
residents
from
light
and
Visually
intrusive
effects.
Z
That
was
the
agreement
now
they've
come
back
with
this
huge
sign
down
the
road.
There's!
No
other
signage
like
this
along
our
City's
Frontage
of
280.
I
know
the
Cupertino.
Hotel
has
signage,
but
it's
a
lot
smaller.
It's
dimmer.
It's
separated
by
an
island
with
trees,
an
on-ramp,
a
freeway
overpass
from
the
south
and
additional
roads
and
trees
next
to
Hotel.
So
you
know
it's
pretty
tasteful
and
not
visible
to
the
Neighbors
at
all.
Z
So,
but
the
proposed
self-storage
sign
I
say
that
is
really
an
injustice
to
the
people
who
live
in
the
development
straight
across
the
freeway,
because
they're
going
to
have
to
look
at
those
glaring
orange
lights
in
their
windows
at
night,
not
to
mention
it's
just
ugly
I
mean
the
building's
ugly
as
it
is
I've
driven
by
it
a
couple
times
at
night
and
it
just
doesn't
fit
in.
Why
are
we
going
to
make
this
worse?
Z
Z
Finally,
I
wanted
the
council
to
consider
that
by
allowing
this
huge
bright
sign
that
they're
setting
a
precedent
for
another
upcoming
development
with
a
sizable
amount
of
freeway
Frontage
as
well
and
I,
can
just
see
we're
talking
about
Valco
I
can
just
see
valco's
glaring,
Office,
Park
and
apartment
rental
signs
now,
so
please
don't
allow
the
Self
Storage
sign
it's
really
out
of
character
for
our
city.
Thank
you.
C
L
Yeah,
council,
members
and
staff
first,
these
attacks
on
commissioner
Wang
are
very
politically
timed
with
a
political
agenda.
This
is
a
coordinated
attack,
as
you
can
see,
they
all
showed
up
tonight.
Their
plan
change
the
majority
of
the
plant
Planning
Commission.
This
gets
the
further
agenda.
L
This
is
another
step
to
remove,
destroy
anything
the
previous
Council
has
accomplished.
Mr
Wang
is
very
knowledgeable
understanding
and
very
familiar
with
our
codes.
It's
a
political
attack
ignore
it
second
informational
item,
13,
Main,
Street
square
footage.
I
want
to
thank
John
martir
for
taking
time
to
speak
with
me
today
regarding
Main
Street
Dion's
update
does
not
mention
that
an
application
has
been
submitted
by
the
property
owner
requesting
a
change
to
the
restaurant
percentage,
so
they
can
put
entertainment,
not
retail,
where
the
old
Target
Express
was
located.
L
As
a
result
of
this
request,
the
conditions
of
approval,
parking
and
traffic
analysis
is
being
finished.
It's
supposed
to
include
traffic
too,
but
it's
not
clear
it
will.
After
this
traffic
analysis,
an
addendum
to
the
eir
will
be
done,
but
the
public
has
no
input.
This
eir
should
include
the
Valco
SB
35
project,
the
two
apple
buildings
near
Lawrence,
and
any
proposed
development
in
your
body.
It's
not
clear
that
it
will.
L
The
public
will
not
be
notified
of
any
of
this
until
the
change
in
use
permit
is
brought
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
city
council
for
those
living
in
the
metropolitan
or
within
300
feet
of
the
property
line.
You
will
be
notified
when
this
comes
to
them.
I
suggest
that
all
of
those
interested
in
this
development
contact
City
staff
periodically
to
find
out
what's
going
on,
don't
wait
for
this
notice
and
as
a
informational
item,
12
monthly
treasurer's
report
for
December
2022.
L
The
monthly
treasurer's
report
is
required
by
law
to
be
sent
to
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
council
regularly.
Every
month
the
city
has
just
become
compliant
last
year,
but
in
the
recent
months
it
appears
to
me
that
the
city
is
no
longer
compliant.
I
have
two
questions:
is
the
city
no
longer
compliant
with
this
law?
I?
Don't
have
proof
that
it
is
what
is
the
city
doing
to
fix
this?
C
Thank
you
Peggy.
Next,
we
have
Tessa
Parish,
followed
by
kamyab
Martian,
followed
by
Deborah
timmers,
welcome
Tessa.
AA
Hi
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say:
I
am
not
I'm
very
displeased
to
add
the
procedural
manual
and
I
mean
from
a
Public's
perspective.
It
really
looks
like
there's
strategically
coordinated
efforts
to
cut
the
public
out
of
the
governance
of
the
city
and
with
it
it
seems
to
be
with
an
agenda.
First,
we
cut
the
comments.
AA
Some
Connie
couldn't
speak
on
an
item
because
it's
no
longer
being
spoken
on
the
response
for
the
grand
jury,
civil
grand
jury,
Etc
so
fast
and
number
one
I
really
urge
you.
This
is
a
comment
to
change
it
in
the
next
time.
It's
reviewed,
second
I,
couldn't
believe
the
coordinated
effort
against
a
commissioner
Wang
I.
So,
first
of
all
he's
a
public
official,
the
gentleman
that
spoke
previously,
he
is
aware
of
freedom
of
speech
and
I've,
seen
worst
rants
from
other
people
on
on
next
door
and
elsewhere.
AA
There's
freedom
of
speech,
but
what
he
said
tonight
is
possibly
and
the
other
gentleman
libel
and
defamation,
because
a
sexual
harassment
never
occurred,
and
that
was
supposed
to
be
a
sealed
settlement
with
when
you
make
a
settlement
and
the
people
that
know
this
and
are
are
familiar
with
attorney
and
law,
as
at
least
one
member
of
their
their
Council.
AA
That
should
have
been
sealed
and
that
should
have
not
been
disclosed
and
now
it's
being
used
against
him
20
years
later.
It's
it's!
It's
unbelievable.
The
coordinated
effort
is
really
obvious
that
it
seems
at
least
to
some
of
us
as
a
coordinated
effort
to
remove
from
Planning
Commission
I
mean
what
a
coincidence
right,
considering
Valco
and
whatever
everything
else
that's
happening.
AA
The
next
thing
was
last
week,
the
grand
civil,
the
response,
one
of
the
speakers,
suggested
that
you
not
make
any
Corrections
or
that
you
say
that
you're
in
disagreement
with
it,
as
if
the
truth
did
not
matter.
I
was
appalled
and
were
you
know
as
a
world
doing
the
ethics
course
and
you're
all
obligated
to
uphold
Affair
and
truth,
and
this
response
should
reflect
that.
AA
We
they
deserve
that
and
what,
if
someone
called
and
reported
one
of
you
and
you
had
no
chance
to
respond
to
it,
and
what,
if
the
council
just
decided
to
do
that
to
you,
I
just
want
to
say
this
is
not
look
good.
I
I
would
like
more
truth
in
the
response
and
I.
Don't
some
of
it
just
is
incomplete
from
personal
knowledge.
AA
H
C
AB
AB
However,
I
believe
that
this
work
will
be
incomplete
without
addressing
an
oversight
made
by
the
previous
Council.
Several
speakers
have
already
addressed
the
serious
breaches
made
by
planning
commissioner
rwong,
which
the
prior
Council
failed
to
take.
Action
on
I
am
asking
that
the
current
Council
correct
this
and
remove
our
Wong
from
the
Planning
Commission
I.
Don't
think
I
have
much
to
add
substantively
I
think
many
of
the
the
points
why
I
believe
this
have
already
been
made,
but
I
would
add
that
I
I
dispute
the
allegation
that
this
is
politically
motivated.
AB
I
personally
have
major
policy
disagreements
with
several
members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
but
I
believe
that
the
attacks
that
Mr
Wong
makes
against
public
participation
go
beyond
simple
disagreements.
I
think
that
this
is
this
is
more.
This
is
about
standing
up
for
for
kindness
and
about
doing
the
right
thing
and
holding
people
accountable.
I
urge
the
council
to
take
prompt
action
on
this.
Thank
you.
C
AC
AC
AC
AC
So
please
can
we
consider
removing
this
person
and
replacing
him
with
someone
that
is
more
respective
respectful
of
all
residents,
not
just
those
that
agree
with
him
her
or
them.
Instead,
let's
work
together
to
make
Cupertino
the
best
it
can
be
based
on
the
wonderful
diversity
of
opinions
we
have.
We
don't
have
to
agree
on
everything,
but
we
must
work
together
and
not
against
each
other.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AD
Good
evening,
mayor
Wade
and
council
members,
I
apologize
I
have
a
bit
of
a
cold,
so
I'm
speaking
tonight
as
a
resident
of
Cupertino.
Only
though
there
are
many
items
in
the
grand
jury
report
that
are
a
great
cause
of
concern
and
require
attention,
I
specifically
wish
to
speak
on
two
issues.
AD
I
am
concerned
by
the
rhetoric
that
I
keep
hearing
from
two
of
our
council
members
and
some
speakers
about
how
the
grand
jury
report
is
just
opinion,
ignoring
that
the
witnesses
must
State
the
truth
and
that
the
report
should
be
ignored
as
it's
wrong.
We
need
to
accept
what
the
report
says,
including
quote:
a
careful
review
of
several
recorded
City
Council
meetings,
confirm
the
existence
of
adversarial
and
dysfunctional
Behavior
towards
City
staff
exhibited
by
some
city
council
members.
AD
Second,
I
continue
to
be
concerned
about
the
lack
of
mechanism
for
reporting
and
enforcement
of
the
quote
of
ethics
for
council
members.
In
the
report,
the
only
mechanism
noted
by
the
staff
or
ethics
concerns
for
Council
Members
is
quote:
council
members
answer
to
voters
if
behavior
and
conduct
is
unacceptable,
pretty
much.
That
leaves
us
with
no
recourse
other
than
to
complain
at
oral
communication.
AD
I
had
not
planned
to
talk
about
this,
but
I
also
want
to
agree
with
what
some
previous
speakers
said
about.
Commissioner
Wing
I.
Personally,
my
own
person
have
received
attacks
on
social
media,
including
receiving
a
lawsuit
threat
and
a
direct
message
from
him.
I
do
have
screenshots
of
these,
as
I
mentioned
at
a
previous
meeting.
I
did
not
find
the
ethics
code
online
and
was
not
able
to
do
anything
about
it.
Knowing
he
had
been
reappointed
recently
and
was
popular
with
the
previous
Council,
it's
not
political.
It's
not
political!
AD
AE
Giving
me
away
and
city
council
I
would
like
to
request
you
to
please
reconsider
the
approval
of
the
signage
for
I280.
The
signage
is
going
to
be
an
eyesore
for
the
community.
It
is
a
distraction
for
driving.
As
you
know,
the
junction
around
280
and
85
is
already
prone
to
accidents
due
to
merging
that
happens,
as
automotives
are
trying
to
exit
85
exit,
280
or
85.,
an
area
has
seen
several
accidents,
especially
during
peak
hour
as
we
go
into
winter
hours.
AE
AE
The
sign
ordinance
talks,
specifically
about
being
in
keeping
with
the
surrounding
homes
and
Landscaping
that
signage
will
not
be
in
keeping
with
the
surrounding
homes
and
Landscaping.
The
Stein
ordinance
talks
about
not
producing
distractions,
to
motorists
or
nearby
residents,
and
this
will
do
exactly
the
opposite.
AE
T
T
Unfortunately,
we
are
still
recovering
from
our
leadership
that
has
greatly
damaged
cupertino's
reputation,
including
the
past
actions
of
funding,
commissioner
R
Wong.
That
is
why
I'm
here
today
to
voice
my
strong
support
for
the
removal
of
planning.
Commissioner
R
Wong
Cupertino
is
a
beacon
of
excellence
and
a
role
model
for
other
cities
to
follow.
With
a
now
strong
and
diversity,
Council
and
excellent
City
staff.
We
are
home
to
some
of
the
brightest
and
most
passionate
Minds
in
California,
but
again,
I
wish
to
moist
my
support
for
the
removal
of
planning.
T
Commissioner
R
Wong
community
members
have
a
right
to
voice
their
concerns
with
their
representatives.
Unfortunately,
leaders
like
commissioner
Wong
have
created
a
culture
of
fear
and
intimidation
and
a
culture
of
threats
because
of
their
past.
Harassment
of
community
members,
as
well
as
housing
and
homelessness,
is
the
top
issue
in
the
minds
of
Cupertino
residents.
T
As
a
planning,
commissioner
Wong
has
a
unique
opportunity
to
promote
solutions
to
end
homelessness,
but
instead
he
downplays
the
reality
of
the
housing
crisis
and
he
mentions
quote
just
we
don't
have
a
housing
problem.
We
have
a
manufactured
homeless
homelessness
crisis
sponsored
by
some
individual
end,
quote
I
believe
in
Cupertino
and
its
future,
and
that's
why
I'm,
here
speaking
more
democracy
and
for
ethical
and
kind
leadership,
it's
past
time
for
Council
to
hold
Community.
T
Commissioner,
when
accountable,
please
honor
the
lived
experiences
of
those
who
have
personally
harmed
by
Mr
Wong
and
do
the
right
thing.
Please
honor
the
intelligence
character
of
our
good
residents,
who
deserve
a
genuine
trust
in
our
officials,
so
yeah
it's
time
to
bring
the
dignity
back
to
Cupertino.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
Y
A
See
attorney
Jensen.
We
do
need
a
second
for
that
right.
Y
A
Your
second
question:
okay,
so
it's
moved
in
second
we're
going
to
add
it
to
the
second
agenda.
Okay,
so
this
concludes
oral
Communications
I'd
like
to
move
the
consent
agenda,
counseling
calendar,
which
is
items
from
four
to
nine
city
manager.
Do
we
have
any
port
items?
Yes,.
E
Merway
I
believe
item
five
and
item.
Six
are
pulled:
okay,
bye
by
council,
member
chow
and
council
member
more
okay.
A
Okay,
so
do
we
have
if
we
don't
have
other
items
being
pulled,
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
the
number
four
seven,
eight
and
nine
on
the
counseling
calendar.
A
Y
Me
I'm
sorry,
so
we
do
need
to
allow
for
public
comment
on
the
consent.
Calendar.
C
A
So
please
proceed.
C
Okay,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
on
Zoom
with
Karthik
Jane,
followed
by
Ian
greensides
and
a
reminder
to.
Please
have
your
hand
raised
or
your
speaker
card
submitted
in
the
first
nine
minutes
think
welcome.
Karthik.
AF
C
Actually,
the
the
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
an
item
not
on
the
agenda
would
have
been
under
oral
Communications.
AF
So
I
do
believe:
I
submitted
my
my
hand
within
nine
minutes,
but
I
was
actually
on
the
phone
and
so
I
had
to
switch
on
Zoom
Yes.
C
Actually,
your
hand
was
not
raised
in
the
first
nine
minutes.
I
did
track
that
carefully.
R
Okay,
oh.
C
R
C
AG
AG
AG
All
right,
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
just
abort
the
consent
items
and
I
also
support
the
removal
of
our
wrongs
from
the
Planning
Commission
and.
P
A
D
A
Was
so
we
will
have
public
comment
when.
D
We
come
to
that
I
requested
if
one
of
the
city
council
members
today
to
pull
items
from
the
consent
calendar
as.
A
A
A
A
A
O
P
AH
T
Y
A
And
we'll
move
to
action,
number
11.
number
10,
which
is
consider
approval
of
response.
C
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table
and
to
approve
consent,
calendar
number,
four,
seven,
eight
and
nine:
let's
vote
by
light.
Please.
H
H
So
City
attorney,
could
you
please
clarify
so
the
old
procedure
is
the
pulled
item
will
be
right
after
consent.
That's
when
the
public
will
speak
on
those
consent
items,
but
the
new
procedure.
Those
items
are
not
right
after
consent.
I
think
this
is
where
the
confusion
comes
from.
Yeah.
Y
Yes,
that's
a
good
point
council
member
Joe,
so
so
the
those
items
will
be
heard
after
the
action
calendar.
A
Okay,
so
let's
vote
on
the
accounts
encounter
four
seven,
eight
and
nine.
E
Q
A
P
A
Does
the
council
want
to
make
a
motion
and
seconded
before
discussion
or
the
council's
pleasure
to
talk
to
discuss?
First,
according
to
our
new
procedures,
we
each
have
five
minutes
for
discussion.
Does
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion
yeah
all
right,
I
liked?
Okay,
vice
mayor
Mohan,.
H
I'll,
second,
that
okay,
thank
you
and
so
so
accept
the
staff
response
right
as.
O
H
So
so
the
Emoji
is
to
accept
the
staff
response
stated
in
the
item
right.
P
A
By
vice
mayor,
Mohan
and
Council,
second
by
council,
member
Chao.
I
A
I
Okay,
tell
you
what
so
that
I
don't
have
to
wait
for
it.
I
will
paste
the
text
into
an
email,
and
that
way
the
city
clerk
can
put
it
on
the
screen.
I
I
For
example,
the
city
council
recently
approved
two
significant
large
development
projects
and
a
number
of
smaller
developments
in
a
timely
fashion
and
the
city
continues
to
innovate
in
policy
areas
such
as
its
response
to
climate
change
and
the
reduction
of
single-use
plastics
second
is
to
with
respect
to
finding
four
and
elsewhere,
as
the
City
attorney
deems
appropriate
or
helpful
to
the
strength
of
the
response
to
add
language.
To
note
the
adoption
first
of
the
council
procedures
manual.
Second,
that
the
city
will
revisit
its
ethics
policy
using
the
2018
policy
as
a
starting
point
for
revision.
I
Third,
the
city
will
revisit
the
commissioner's
handbook
to
bring
it
into
alignment
with
the
council
procedures
manual
and
to
address
other
concerns
raised
by
the
Civil
grand
jury
report
and
then
four
that
the
City
attorney
will
investigate
and
report
back
on
other
violations
of
the
municipal
code
with
respect
to
the
council
staff
and
commissioner
staff
relations,
so
that
the
city
council
May,
establish
policy
to
correct
or
prevent
such
violations
in
future
and
I
hope
that
that
will
resolve
some
of
the
questions
that
people
have
had
about.
What
actually
has
happened
in
the
city.
A
So
the
subject
beaker
it's
hard
to
read,
so
the
substitution
is
to
change
the
language
to.
I
To
adopt
yeah
to
adopt
the
the
response,
as
proposed
with
the
following
changes:
okay,.
I
In
addition
to
to
change
the
last
sentence
in
the
first
paragraph,
two,
in
addition,
the
city
continues
to
make
policy
progress
in
many
areas.
For
example,
the
city
council
recently
approved
two
significant
large
development
projects
and
a
number
of
smaller
developments
in
a
timely
fashion,
and
the
city
continues
to
innovate
in
policy
areas
such
as
its
response
to
climate
change
and
the
reduction
of
single-use
plastics
and
refinding
for
and
elsewhere,
as
the
City
attorney
deems
appropriate
or
helpful
to
the
strength
of
the
response,
adding
language
to
note.
First,
the
adoption
of
the
council
procedures
manual.
I
Second,
that
the
city
will
revisit
its
ethics
policy
using
the
2018
policy
as
a
starting
point
for
revision.
Third,
the
city
will
revisit
the
commissioner's
handbook
to
bring
it
into
alignment
with
the
council
procedures
manual
and
to
address
other
concerns
raised
by
the
Civil
grand
jury
report
and,
fourth,
that
the
City
attorney
will
investigate
and
report
back
on
other
violations
of
the
municipal
code
with
respect
to
council
staff
and
commissioner
staff
relations,
so
that
the
city
council
May,
establish
policy
to
correct
or
prevent
such
violations
in
future.
A
A
H
Okay,
so
first
I'd
like
to
thank
the
Civil
Grand
jurors
for
com
for
committing
to
spend
20
hours
per
week
to
serve
as
watchdogs
for
our
public
agency.
It's
a
well-intentioned
process,
but
the
process
unfortunately,
is
flawed
and
you
here
is
the
actual
process.
The
interviewees
have
to
sign
a
statement
to
not
disclose
the
content
of
the
interview
until
the
report
comes
out.
However,
they
are
not
required
to
to
sign
to
to
swear
to
tell
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
The
interviewees
were
all
Anonymous.
H
They
are
not
accountable
for
what
they
said
in
the
interview.
The
Civil
grand
jury
also
did
not
ask
for
any
supporting
evidence
to
make
any
attempt
to
verify
the
claim
and
I
voluntarily
supplied
evidence
after
the
interview,
but
they
seem
to
have
not
read
the
evidence
I
provided
they
selectively
include
some
narratives
in
which,
in
their
final
report,
but
some
they
choose
to
ignore
due
to
the
lack
of
cross-examination
and
evidence
seeking
process.
The
Civil
grand
jury,
unfortunately,
is
a
collection
of
selective
narratives,
not
verified
witness
testimony
or
affidavit
a
functional
city.
H
Government
government
require
a
two-way
public
engagement
process
throughout
the
decision-making
process,
but
a
lot
of
the
claims
made
by
the
Civil
ground
in
the
in
the
report
were
concerns
or
statements
that
were
never
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
city,
Administration
or
the
city
council.
As
a
result,
the
city
could
not
respond
to
them.
For
example,
the
very
simple
fact
of
the
code
of
ethics
was
not
posted
on
the
website
if
any
member
of
the
com
public
just
emailed
the
City
attorney
city,
city
manager
or
the
council
that
could
have
been
resolved.
H
This
is
not
even
a
council
decision
to
provide
that.
What
we
are
seeing
is
a
very
dysfunctional
but
not
big
within
between
the
council
and
the
city
staff,
but
we
are
seeing
some
people
choose
to
broadcast,
never
express
concerns
Direct
not
to
the
city,
admin
or
Council.
They
broadcast
to
civil
grand
jury
or
even
through
a
lawsuit
right
before
an
election
and
that's
very
dysfunctional.
They
are
creating
a
perception
of
this
function
that
may
or
may
not
be
there,
and
because
they
did
not
bring
the
concerns.
H
Some
of
them
misunderstand
the
actual
fact,
and
unfortunately
we
cannot
correct
them
because
they
did
not
bring
it
to
the
attention
of
the
city,
regardless
ECT
Fall,
City
Hall.
This
statement
by
the
Civil
grand
jury
that
founding
were
allocated
in
2015
and
then
redirected
is
false.
2015
is
the
custody.
Council
never
funded
the
project.
They
approved
a
plan
which
included
a
new
city
hall
but
turns
out
too
costly,
so
they
dropped
the
project
entirely.
They
did
not
even
consider
the
option
of
Simply
renovating
to
reduce
the
cost.
H
This
is
this
statement
by
civil
grand
jury
claimed
the
staff
on
some
staff
are
concerned.
The
city
council
is
not
willing
to
fund
the
project,
they
are
concerned
about
their
safety
and
this
concern
was
never
brought
up
to
the
city
manager
and,
since
the
city
manager
never
brought
up
that
concern
to
the
council,
when
the
council,
in
fact
have
been
working
on
trying
to
find
ways
to
renovate
the
city
hall
where
the
economic
means
we
have.
H
This
statement
is
this:
this
part
of
the
report
is
accurate,
that
the
city
has
not
been
providing
monthly
treasurer's
report,
and
now
the
city
finally
is
is
providing
that.
But
the
report
for
neglect
to
mention
it
was
council,
member,
Katie
Moore
who
actually,
who
brought
up
the
concern
and
repeatedly
and
finally,
the
city
staff
complied
and
I.
Don't
have
time
to
go
over
and
so
many
of
them.
But
here
are
the
facts.
On
the
code
of
ethics,
the
Civil
grand
jury
choose
not
to
recruit,
which
is
this
cons.
H
This
city
never
had
a
code
of
ethics
before
November
2018
and
it
was
adopted,
but
there
are
many
concerns
which
I
emailed
them,
but
then
they
choose
do
not
include
in
the
report.
The
2018
code
of
ethics
has
a
lot
of
issues,
which
is
why
it
was
reasoned
and
the
Civil
grand
jury
choose
not
to
include
any
of
them.
A
G
Great
thank
you.
So
you
should
have
my
response
in
the
written
Communications.
So
this
is
a
response
representing
myself
only
that
they
that
the
response
from
the
city
did
not
correct
the
findings
error.
On
page
eight
of
the
report.
The
grand
jury
did
not
inform
me
of
the
allegation
in
the
report
for
response,
which
one
would
expect
in
a
proper
investigation.
While
I
do
appreciate
the
immense
time
that
the
citizen
volunteers
willingly
donate
to
the
grand
jury,
it's
very
important
that
they
and
the
city
staff
providing
information,
get
it
right.
G
Paragraph
one.
On
page,
eight
states
that
I
questioned
a
subordinate
of
the
city
manager
about
charges.
The
staff
member
occurred
incurred
on
a
city
credit
card.
The
staff
member
presented
an
explanation
of
the
charges
council.
Member
Moore
did
not
accept
the
explanation
and
requested
copies
of
the
documentation
to
pursue
her
own
investigation.
This
is
not
true.
What
actually
happened
is
that
I
had
observed
and
I
should
mention
that
I've
been
on.
G
These
charges
would
total
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year,
with
no
reporting
to
the
public
for
what
the
city's
money
was
being
spent
on
or
a
formal
audit
of
these
charges.
It
should
be
noted,
as
I
said,
I'd
been
concurrently
serving
on
the
audit
committee
and
eventually
chairing
it.
I
had
seen
the
city's
credit
card
policy,
which
actually
was
put
together
by
acting
city
manager,
Amy,
Chan
and
I'd,
spoken
to
friends
who
have
company
and
government
issued
cards
and
was
told
what
they
were
required
to
document
for
their
card
use
and
read.
G
I
never
spoke
to
either
employee
those
supporting
documentation
came
from
separately.
An
employee
was
found
to
have
used
their
card
for
personal
items,
and
I
was
informed
that
they
had
been.
Let
go
City
attorney
Jensen
has
the
folder
I
described
and
can
share
what
he
deems
as
disclosable.
The
interim
city
manager
had
also
asked
me
to
do
another
spot
check
in
the
future,
given
that
I
was
handed
the
information
in
hard
copy.
G
It
was
not
an
email;
it
is
very
possible
that
no
other
staff
members
knew
that
I
had
it
I
hope
this
corrects
the
record
adequately
and
then
I
do
want
to
mention
I.
Think
I
might
have
said
this
before
the
response
to
finding
three.
The
grand
jury
report
makes
it
sound
like
the
embezzlement
which
ended
around
September
of
2014
was
found
in
2014.
The
city
does
not
correct,
though,
so
that
the
public
will
understand
that
the
embezzlement
was
found
in
2018..
G
The
city
does
not
reference
the
2018
and
2019
internal
controls
reports,
which
are
actually
pretty
difficult
to
find,
which
have
numerous
deficiencies
and
City
responses.
The
city
also
does
not
address
that.
The
policy
staff
and
Moss
Adams
mentioned
that
they
were
working
on
were
not
brought
to
the
audit
committee
or
Council
for
us
to
actually
see
what
those
policies
are.
I
want
to
mention
the
March
14
2019
city
of
Cooper,
Tino,
internal
controls,
review
by
Frank
Zimmerman
and
Company
LLP.
G
G
We
still
haven't
gotten
that
updated
procurement
policy
still
hasn't
happened.
The
city
does
not
mention
that
at
the
January
audit
committee,
the
treasurer
recommended
that
the
audit
committee
no
longer
review
the
monthly
Treasurer
reports.
Just
the
quarterly
investment
reports,
which
are
two
reporters.
Two
reports
generated
by
our
hired
investors
at
the
audit
committee
alone
sees
the
accounts,
payable
statements
and
no
longer
would
they
come
to
council
that,
instead
of
meeting
monthly,
that
audit
would
recommend
that
they
only
meet
six
times
per
year.
This
reduces
the
number
of
views.
These
items
get
and
increases
risk.
G
Please
let
the
grand
jury
know
that
all
the
good
work
that's
being
done
is
being
rapidly
undone.
We
need
transparency
and
accountability.
So
when
we
we
will
be
having
the
items
come
to
council,
but
they
will
not
they'll
be
in
memo
form.
We
might
still
get
the
accounts
payable
by
resolution
that
will
show
up
on
the
agenda
but
understand
that
some
of
those
items
you're
not
going
to
see
them
they're
just
going
to
go
to
council.
Thank
you.
A
As
I
said,
the
when
jewelry
report
is
not
something
to
take
lightly
and
I
do
believe
our
city
manager
did
see
attorney,
did
a
good
job
of
responding
to
it,
but
I
do
agree
with
councilman
buffoon
that
they
are
relevant
laws
that
specific
that
we
need
to
follow.
We
are
council
members.
Yes,
we
make
directions,
we,
you
know,
prove
ordinances,
but
we
need
to
follow
our
own
Municipal
laws
and
I
do
believe.
A
The
gradual
report
point
out
to
that
and
further
you
know,
work
from
the
council
as
a
whole.
We
need
to
work
on
that.
So
I
I
do
believe
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
I
believe
we
can
work
on
it.
If
we
all
and
take
a
step
back
and
say
this
is
happening,
so,
let's
work
on
it
and
as
for
the
a
lot
of
things,
that's
being
said,
I
just
want
to
say
I
trust.
A
Our
City
attorney
can
do
a
good
response
to
the
grand
jury
and
it's
due
March,
20th
and
I
do
like
that.
We
are
going
to
authorize
our
City
attorney
to
make
the
necessary
adjustment
and
it
doesn't
have
to
come
back
to
council,
because
I
trust,
our
staff
and
their
expertise.
So
I
am
in
fully
support
of
council
members
rooms,
substitute
motion,
any
more
comments
from
council
members.
O
After
reviewing
the
grand
jury
report
and
the
response,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
fair.
We
I
think
the
City
attorney
has
made
it
clear
that
we
disagree
with
a
lot
of
items.
We
partially
disagree.
We
partially
agree
so
I
I
think
that's
fair
enough,
and
my
hope
is
that
we
take
all
the
findings
seriously
and
move
Beyond.
This
I
mean
it's.
You
know
it
doesn't
make
too
much
sense
to
keep
going
back
to
the
years
when
some
of
these
issues
were
raised.
O
I
To
the
extent
that
you
know,
there's
still
a
lot
of
concern
about
what
the
Civil
grand
jury
relied
on,
whether
it
was
reliable,
Etc,
My,
Hope
Is
that
the
fourth
point,
in
my
suggested
response
to
finding
for
that
the
City
attorney
will
investigate
and
report
back
on.
Other
violations
of
the
municipal
code
with
respect
to
the
council
staff
relationship
will
help
us
to
resolve
what
the
truth
is
in
some
of
these
instances
surface
problems
so
that
we
can
address
it.
I
A
So
I
think
everyone
has
their
say
in
five
minutes.
You
did
our
manual
says
everybody
got
five
minutes
so.
A
H
Some
people
I
have
a
friendly
amendment
to
council
member
fluence
proposal.
Okay,
so
the
2018
I
I
would
like
to
remove
the
part
that
the
phrase
using
the
2018
policy
as
a
starting
point
for
real
figure.
A
We
have
it
on
the
on
the
on
the
because
do
you
think
we
can
have
it
council,
member
from
The
Substitute
on
the
screen?
Again?
Yes,
so
I
know
exactly
which
one
you
are
I'm,
removing.
A
A
Yeah
move
using
the
2018
yeah
I'm
council
member
from.
Y
H
P
A
And
yeah:
please
do
okay
go
ahead.
H
Second,
more
so
I
would
like
some
more
time
to
finish
my
presentation
regarding
the
two,
the
problem
with
2018
code
of
ethics.
That's
why
this
substitute
motion
so
so
I
can
provide
reasons
for
my
substitute.
A
So
their
supplementation
is
the
same
as
the
council
member
froons
subject
of
motion,
but
without
the
sentence
using
the
2018
is
that
correct,
yeah.
H
T
G
Thank
you,
mayor
maska,
yes,
procedural
question,
I
I
just
want
to
clarify
from
the
attorney.
So
what
we
just
observed
here,
if
I
understand
correctly,
it's
the
new
procedures,
As
I,
understood
them
that
the
the
mayor
has
the
sole
discretion
to
stop
deliberations
and
go
to
a
vote
that
I
believe
that's
what
I
just
saw.
Y
On
an
item
beyond
that,
if
they're
the
mayor
feels
there's
a
need
for
additional
discussion,
the
it's
the
at
the
mayor's
discretion
to
allow
that
so.
G
Y
The
mayor
mayor
has
discretion
to
allow
additional
time
where,
where
she
believes
additional
time
is
necessary,
any
procedural
decision
of
the
mayor
can
also
be
overruled
by
a
majority
at
vote
of
the
council.
Okay,.
G
H
H
It
was
one
of
the
six
documents
proved,
and
the
commissioner
is
Staff
report
says
commissions
were
very
supportive,
but
there
is
no
record
of
any
commission
ever
provided
their
support
for
this
code
of
ethics,
and
here
are
the
other
problems
in
item
six
of
that
virgin.
It
says
decision
makers
will
base
their
decision
on
facts
presented
at
the
hearing
of
the
law
and
the
law,
which
is
this.
H
This
requirement
usually
applies
only
for
quasi-judicial
decisions,
not
all
policy
decisions
at
the
council
and
the
I-107
city
officials
will
rely
on
agenda
materials
and
information
received
at
the
public
hearing.
These
are,
and
then
item
8
the
conflict
of
interest.
It
says
an
organization,
an
organizational
anyone
who
is
with
an
organization
that
has
a
strong
personal
bias
to
any
item
that
is
considered
a
conflict
of
interest.
This
is
much
beyond
the
normal
Financial
conflict
of
interest,
mere.
H
H
And
any
council
member
to
use
any
communication
house
meeting
with
community
members
meet
and
other
other
resource
to
make
their
decision
item
8
would
have
prevented
the
bike
and
pet
Commissioners
to
even
make
a
decision,
because
many
of
them
have
strong
opinion
to
Pro
for
a
certain
bike
project
and
sustainability.
Commissioners
would
have
strong
buyers
towards
the
sustainability
initiatives
and
they
cannot
vote
so.
This
is
very
I.
I
think
that
the
whole
process
of
that
process
that
the
adoption
of
that
we
should
not
start
with
something
that's
still
problematic.
That
start
fresh.
Thank
you.
H
A
A
You
did,
but
that's
okay,
because
since
councilman
Richard
used
another
three
minutes
go
ahead.
Use
your
three
minutes.
Okay!
Thank
you.
Three
minutes.
G
Please,
thank
you.
So
I
agree
with
the
the
comments
and
the
the
rationale
from
council
member
Chow.
One
thing
in
particular:
that's
bothersome.
There
is
the
use
only
of
the
materials
that
you're
essentially
handed
by
staff.
G
So
if
you
could
put
that
back
up
on
the
screen,
I
would
like
to
I'd
like
to
see
that
wording
again
because
for
multiple
projects
they're,
you
know,
staff
staff
is
staff's
great,
but
sometimes
things
don't
get
into
the
packet
that
we
want
to
know
about,
and
here
we've
got
decision
makers
will
base
their
decisions
on
the
facts
presented
at
the
hearing
and
the
law,
which
is
supposed
to
apply
only
for
quasi-judicial
decisions,
so
wow.
So
what
happens?
G
If
we
go
out
and
visit
a
site,
we
take
photographs,
we
take
photographs
from
different
angles
that
maybe
staff
didn't
consider
would
be
important.
Maybe
we
talk
to
the
neighbors
and
we
have
all
this
other
information
or
we
research
somewhere
else
about
something
so
this.
For
me,
this
is
a
real
sticking
point
for
the
kinds
of
information
that
we
have
in
order
to
make
our
decisions
and
I
don't
think
we
should
be
starting
from
this.
This
point
and
we're
going
to
have
a
future.
G
I
Yes,
so
I'm
I'm
only
asking
in
the
motion
that
we
start
with
the
2018
ethics
policy
as
a
starting
point,
it
doesn't
mean
that
it
is
the
what
I'm
asking
for
is
a
resurrection
of
the
2018
policy,
so
I
trust
the
City
attorney
to
bring
back
a
policy
that
is
consonant
with
our
procedures
manual.
That
is
consonant
with
our
other
policies.
In
order
to
be
able
to.
Let
us
move
forward
on
this
topic.
The
rest
of
the
2018
ethics
policy
is
considerably
stronger
than
what
it
was
replaced
by
and
when
it
was
originally
passed.
O
Y
I
believe
that
that
is
the
request
of
the
first
substitute
of
both
the
first
and
second
substitute
motions
on
the
table.
I
guess
the
first
specifically
edura
is
directed
at
the
the
2018
ethics
policy,
which.
O
Y
Come
back
so
that
that
would
come
back
for
for
consideration
by
Council.
You
know
perhaps
as
part
of
the
the
work
program
for
next
year.
H
Yeah,
okay,
I
think
we
are
so.
My
main
issue
is:
was
the
term
as
a
starting
point
you
could
bring.
That
could
be
one
of
the
one
of
the
documents
we
review
together
with
other
potential
options,
but
as
a
starting
point,
it's
very
problematic.
That
document
was
a
violation
of
brown
act
when
it
was
adopted
because
it
wasn't
agendased
as
code
of
ethics.
The
public
didn't
even
know
it's
on
the
agenda.
They
couldn't
comment
on
it.
Okay,.
A
To
council,
member
from
you
had
something
else
to.
A
A
So,
let's
put
it
on
the
screen:
okay,
let's
put
on
the
screen,
please
the
one
that
council
member
from
made
are
the
sub
emotion
but
cross
out
the
one
that
council
member
Charles
doesn't
want.
A
O
H
I
think
we
should
not
be
pounded.
We
should
not
pound
our
hand
with
a
starting
point.
That's
that
could
be
considered
as
one
of
the
document
we
review
on
in
a
study
session.
No
I
think
we
should.
We
can
consider
other
code
of
ethics
from
other
cities,
but
that's
not
start
with
a
failed
one.
So
we
we
have
more
positive
start.
A
I
If
I
may
Madame
mayor,
so
one
of
my
reasons
for
focusing
on
the
2018
report
policy
is
because
the
Civil
grand
jury
report
specifically
cites
it.
What
we
wind
up
with
could
be
a
very
significant
departure.
I
think
this
is
a
stronger
response,
because
it
is
more
directly
responsive
to
the
Civil
grand
jury
report.
H
A
Content,
okay,
so
I
think
we
have
explained
ourselves
so,
let's
vote
by
light,
please
this
is
the
sub
emotion
without
the
2018.
C
A
A
Yes,
as
a
starting
point,
use
2018
go
to
the
message
starting
point,
let's
vote
by
like
please.
H
Okay,
a
question
to
the
City
attorney
so
in
my
I
was
I
pushed
the
abstain
actually
earlier
and
it
didn't
light
up,
but
can
I
abstain
on
this
item
because
of
my
objection
to
one
of
the
items.
I
really
don't
feel
comfortable
with
starting
with
a
failed,
very,
very
problematic
code
of
ethics.
It's
something.
P
A
E
Thank
you
Mary
way.
I
do
need
a
little
technical,
difficult
assistance
in.
L
E
City
clerk
will
help
me
so
I
well
start
with
my
presentation,
while
Kirsten
brings
that
up
take
your
time.
So
this
is
a
follow-up
ordinance
amendment
to
council,
following
up
on
the
January
25th
special
meeting,
to
do
several
changes
to
the
Ordnance
Municipal
Code
relating
to
legislative,
Review,
Committee,
Economic,
Development,
Committee,
environmental
Review,
Committee
design,
Review
Committee.
In
addition
to
the
audit
committee
next
slide,.
E
E
Again,
the
agenda
for
tonight
I
have
one
over
the
objective
for
council's
consideration.
I
will
be
going
over
the
reasons
for
for
recommendation
of
each
of
the
committee,
as
laid
out
in
the
staff
report,
conclude
my
presentation
with
staff's
recommendation
and
open
questions
from
Council
and
members
of
the
Republic
next
slide.
E
E
Second,
we're
asking
Council
to
consider
the
disbandment
of
Economic
Development
Committee
as
it
laid
out
Municipal
Code,
section
2.96
that
was
in
act
in
2022,
described
the
functions
and
responsibility
of
this
committee.
What
staff
is
recommending
is
to
repel
the
ordinance
completely
and
also
to
establish
economic
development
working
group.
This
is
at
the
alternative
reasons,
for
a
working
group
is
to
allow
more
flexibility
to
Pivot
more
quickly
to
immediate
interest.
E
This
will
serve
as
an
advisory
capacity
to
staff
on
a
as
needed
basis,
allowing
for
tailored
discussion,
and
this
will
also
include
an
array
of
business
and
also
business
serving
agencies
both
locally
and
regionally.
So
without
having
a
brown
act
body.
This
allows
for
a
lot
more
flexibility
to
Pivot
to
the
interest
of
the
topic
at
the
time.
Next
slide.
E
Continuing
on
the
economic
development
committee
future
Arrangement,
this
working
group
will
meet
hopefully
in
the
spring
or
summer
time
frame,
and
the
group
of
focus
on
assessing
current
program
and
developing
a
holistic
framework
and
staff
can
provide
updates
to
Council
on
the
discussions
and
the
progress
that
are
made
regularly
at
council's
desire.
Please
note
that
this
is
an
alternative
following
council's
promotion,
if
Council
would
like
to
provide
any
more
guidance
or
direction,
we're
more
than
happy
to
to
implement
this
working
group
will
not
require
any
action
by
Council.
E
Environmental
Review
Committee
again
background
the
municipal
code,
section
2.84,
enacted
environmental
Review
Committee
in
1990,
and
what
staff
is
recommending
is
to
again
repel
the
ordinance
entirely
and
to
amend
section
chapter
9.20.
This
is
a
review
of
offside,
Hazardous,
Waste
Facility,
to
address
any
environmental
Review
Committee
functions
in
that
chapter
and
also
we're
asking
council
at
the
time
to
also
establish
a
new
chapter
relates
to
California
Environmental
Quality
act,
sequel
to
make
sure
that
there
is
compliance
with
the
state
sequel
guidance
next
slide
as
part
of
the
environmental
Review
Committee.
E
We're
also
asking
Council
to
consider
activating
a
local
assessment
committee
that
has
not
been
active
to
review
any
sort
of
offsite
has
this
waste
facility
that
should
include
issues
related
to
secret
review.
This
is
again,
like
I,
said
a
dormant
committee,
but
it
is
a
committee
that
has
been
fully
described
in
our
municipal
code
in
section
I.
Don't
have
it
I
think
it's
chapter
19.
E
Continuing
to
design
Review
Committee
design,
Review
Committee
has
been
with
the
city
for
some
time
in
in
its
duties.
It's
a
subcommittee
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
its
Duty
has
been
described
in
section
2.90
of
the
City
municipal
code.
Again,
staff
is
recommending
the
entire
ordinance
to
be
repelled
and
also
to
delegate
the
authority
of
design
review
to
either
Planning
Commission
or
staff.
This
will
amend
section
2.32-070h
to
remove
any
reference
to
establishment
of
design.
E
Review
Committee
next
slide,
and
this
chart,
as
included
in
the
staff
report,
provides
you
an
a
summary
of
what
sort
of
a
permit
that
will
used
to
be
hurt
by
the
design.
Review
Committee
and
in
the
future
will
be
heard
either
by
the
Planning,
Commission
or
administrative
hearing.
For
instance,
a
signed
exception
will
continue
to
go
to
Planning
Commission
offense
exception
will
go
to
administrative
hearing.
Asa
permits
for
the
decorative
statutory
project
will
also
go
to
administrative
hearing
next
slide.
E
So
the
prior
slides
conclude
staff's
recommendation
on
what
happened
on
January
25th,
based
on
council's
Direction.
This
is
a
recommendation
coming
from
audit
committee,
so
the
audit
committee
convened
during
their
January
meeting
and
voted
unanimously
to
recommend
the
council
amid
certain
financial
reporting
requirements,
including
sound
requirements,
that's
been
codified
in
the
municipal
court.
So
specifically,
the
audit
committee
recommend
that
the
monthly
investment
report
to
be
provided
to
the
city
council
via
an
off
agenda
memo
and
that
the
city
council
amend
the
committee's
jurisdiction
to
review
only
quarterly
investment
reports
for
the
audit
committee.
E
This
wraps
up
all
of
the
changes
to
the
ordinance
that
staff
is
recommending
recommending
to
complete
my
presentation.
Staff
is
asking
Council
to
adopt
a
resolution
regarding
legislative
Review
Committee
to
conduct
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
Amendment
related
to
the
various
committee
that
I
just
mentioned
in
my
staff
report,
and
this
will
come
back
as
a
second
reading
and
the
ordinance
itself
will
take
effect
30
days
after
the
second
reading
and
we're
also
asking
Council
to
find
your
actions
to
be
exam
from
the
sequel
guideline.
E
A
You
city
manager,
Wu.
Now
we
have
five
minutes
of
each
council
members
to
ask
questions.
Anybody
wants
to
post
a
question.
First
council
member
ciao,
yeah.
H
So
first
I
think
I
would
like
the
staff
to
clarify
regarding
the
legislative,
Review
Committee.
That
resolution
in
2018
was
adopted
before
I
got
on
the
console.
Actually
I
didn't
know
there
is
that
resolution
and
and
then
we
were,
we
had
assignment
to
legislative
Review
Committee
and
none
of
the
City
attorney
in
2019
or
thereafter
has
expressed
any
concern
that
this
is
not
complying
with
municipal
code
and
I.
Think
City,
alternate
Christiansen
has
not
brought
that
to
our
attention
until
I
see
this
agenda
for
February
21st.
Y
Yeah
yeah
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
that
so
yeah,
that's
a
fair
characterization.
This
is
not
something
that
I
had
focused
on
I
I
did
in
preparing
this
agenda
item
for
Council
I
I,
I
reviewed
the
municipal
code
provisions
and
I
identified.
The
provision
cited
in
your
staff
report
and
I
do
believe.
There's
an
inconsistency
between
delegating
the
authority
to
take
legislative
positions
to
a
subcommittee
in
that
provision
of
the
municipal
code
and.
AC
Y
Reflected
in
the
staff
report
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
that
this
has
been
a
long-standing
policy
of
this
this
city,
but
I
do
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
correct
it
and
bring
it
in
line
with
the
municipal
code.
If
Council
wished
to
go
in
a
different
direction.
Of
course,
we
could
consider
changes
to
the
missile
code.
H
Yeah
I
actually
agree
with
your
assessment
that
bill
positions
should
be
taken
by
the
full
Council,
but
just
to
clarify
the
previous
Council
didn't
just
delegate
the
entire
Authority.
They
did
adopt
the
legislative
platform
which
was
approved
by
the
council
and
then
specify
what
they
they
could
support
the
oppose
or
monitor
right.
H
And
so
I
contacted
you
and
asking
the
the
job
to
resolution
we
have
today
gives
this
misinterpretation
misperception
that
somehow
the
council
was
not
complying
with
the
municipal
code.
Could
have
you
considered
any
wording
to
clarify
the
council
did
follow
the
recommendation
by
the
previous
City
attorney.
Y
So
I
haven't
had
a
conversation
with
the
previous
City
attorney.
So
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
confirm
that.
But
I
would
say
that
you
know
that
the
discussion
of
the
municipal
code
is
not
necessary
for
adoption
of
the
resolution
and,
if
count
its
council's
desire
to
strike
that
that
recital
from
the
resolution
that
would
not
affect
the
ability
of
the.
H
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
and
council
member
Moore.
G
E
G
Okay,
so
specifically
through
through
the
the
mayor,
which
are
the
reports
that
are
being
altered.
E
G
Why,
okay,
so
an
informational
item
that
no
member
of
the
public
can
speak
on
one
when
that
item's
being
reviewed,
it
would
only
be
during
oral
Communications
if
members
of
the
public
understand
the
new
process
that
they
could
use
their
three
minutes
to
either
speak
about
a
topic
that
they're
interested
in
want
to
share,
or
if
there
were
say
seven
informational
items.
They
would
only
have
three
minutes
to
be
able
to
address
any
of
those
which
seems
very
unfair.
G
So
I
just
want
to
understand
that
this
off
agenda
memo
means
that
the
public
really
isn't
going
to
have
time
to
talk
about
it
and
that's
kind
of
a
problem,
because
this
is
about
our
money.
Okay,
so
could
someone
from
staff
please
put
up
the
the
the
sentence
in
the
municipal
code?
That's
being
altered
so
that
I
can
understand,
because
I'm
not
really
sure
what
what
that
change
actually
is.
Y
Can
do
that
if
you
I.
G
So
does
does
staff
write
the
investment
report
because
I
thought
the
investment
report
was
done
by
Chandler
and
U.S
bank
and
then
it's
brought
to
the
currently.
It's
actually
brought
to
the
audit
committee
on
a
monthly
basis
and
the
receipts,
disbursements
and
fund
balances
are
brought
to
the
audit
committee
on
a
monthly
basis
and
we
had
also
started
having
the
accounts
payable
come
to
the
audit
committee
and
what
this
was
providing
was
a
second
set
of
eyes.
So
I
do
do
I
understand
that
correctly.
E
G
That
line
in
the
municipal
code
changes
the
review
of
the
monthly
treasurer's
report
to
now
be
reviewing
the
quarterly
treasurer's
investment
report,
which
is
a
report
that
is
under
California
government
code.
53607.
G
4.
regularly,
at
least
once
each
month,
the
city
treasurer
shall
submit
to
the
city
clerk
a
written
report
in
accounting
of
all
receipts
disbursements
and
fund
balances.
So
I
also
want
to
bring
this
up.
With
regards
to
the
show
me,
the
money,
the
grand
jury
report
didn't
mention
the
fact
that
the
quarterly
Treasures
reports
were
supposed
to
be
monthly
I
mean
a
quarterly
investment.
G
Subject
to
review
the
legislative
body
May
renew
the
delegation
of
authority
pursuant
to
this
selection
each
year,
I
think
Council
was
wise
in
the
past
to
have
put
this
item
in
the
hands
of
the
audit
committee.
So
they
would
have
a
first
set
of
eyes
looking
at
these
documents,
and
now
this
recommendation
takes
that
away
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly.
E
G
A
A
A
E
The
monthly
Treasures
report
will
come
to
council
directly
and
off
agenda
memo
informational
item,
the
quarterly.
Let's
see
quarterly
Treasures
investment
report
will
come
to
Auto
committee
first
and
then
it
will
be
transmitted
to
council,
okay,
and
that
will
be
a
quarterly
report
that
will
be
a
quarterly
investment.
A
A
A
It
first
okay
Vice,
if.
O
I
could
make
a
quick
comment.
The
public
will
be
seeing
all
the
reports
that
are
currently
on
the
agenda.
It's
just
going
to
look
a
little
different,
but
there
is
nothing
and
I
repeat
nothing
that
will
restrict
their
ability
to
look
at
the
the
accounts
payable
register
or
the
or
the
treasurer's
report.
So
the
only
difference
is
that
they
will
not
be
coming
through
the
audit
committee
before
they
come
to
the
council.
They
will
come
directly
to
the
council,
except
for
the
quarterly
Treasures
investment
report.
So.
A
I
Yeah
no
I'll,
just
Echo
the
vice
mayor's
comments.
I
think
that
they
are
a
correct
reflection
of
what
is
happening
and
no
one
knows
Finance
like
the
vice
mayor.
So.
A
H
H
P
P
H
E
H
H
Y
The
council
can
set
its
own
agenda,
I.
Think
the
city
manager's
recommendation
reflects
an
attempt
to
move
our
meetings
more
away
from
from
managing
operational
aspects
of
the
city
and
towards
a
greater
degree
of
focus
on
policy
issues.
So
in
that
sense,
this
recommendation
is
is
is,
is,
is
sort
of
a
continuation
of
the
discussion
that
we
just
finished.
Regarding
the
grand
jury
report
on.
H
G
A
question
so
I
want
to
verify
that
government
code,
41004
and
53607
these
these
requirements
in
the
government
code
have
been
around
for
many
years.
I
know
for
a
fact
that
four
one
zero
zero
four
goes
goes
back
to
at
least
19
1949
I
believe
any
idea
how
far
back
53607
goes.
I'm
just
wondering
if
these
were
in
place,
when
perhaps
the
vice
mayor
was
our
interim
finance
manager,
because
this
was
not
being
followed.
G
G
E
E
A
Okay,
so,
okay,
so
the
question
is
done:
we're
gonna
go
to
public
comment.
Do
we
have
cards.
C
Yes,
Mary
we
have
two
cards
in-house
and
one
so
people
are
starting
to
raise
their
hands.
So
please
have
your
hands
raised
within
the
first
nine
minutes,
as
well
as
having
any
blue
speaker
cards.
So
we
have
Jennifer,
Griffin
and
Rhoda
fry
welcome.
Jennifer.
D
Thank
you,
city,
council,
I'm,
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
elimination
or
changing
of
four
of
our
committees
in
the
city.
I've,
frankly,
never
seen
anything
like
this
before,
along
with
the
agenda,
it's
it
raises
a
lot
of
concerns.
I
personally
think
the
legislative
Review
Committee
has
been
one
of
the
most
fundamental
things
in
my
life.
D
Currently,
it
is
fostered
a
great
interest
in
legislative
issues
that
are
going
on
in
California
other
states
and
nationally
I
will
say
right
now
that
we
there
is
a
hostile
body,
pushing
laws
through
in
the
state
that
this
year
are
trying
to
push
SB
35
to
Limitless
times
they're
trying
to
eliminate
sequa
in
all
forms,
and
it
is
important
for
the
public
to
have
access
to
things
like
the
legislative
review,
because
this
is
their
life
their
times.
Their
history
and
I
will
tell
you
right
now.
I
have
been
because
of
what's
been
happening.
D
I
have
been
pushed
to
look
to
see
what
my
ancestors
did
in
Virginia.
I
have
found
things
in
there
why
they
went
to
the
fight
that
they
did
and
they
lost
lives.
You
know
it.
This
is
how
bad
it
is.
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
design
Review
Committee,
we
annexed
my
neighborhood
annexed
and
we
use
the
design
Review
Committee
because
of
the
monster
houses
that
were
going
in
County
Cupertino
had
problems
with
them
and
I
really
really
am
offended
that
someone
would
be
getting
rid
of
the
DRC
when
I
spent
so
much
of
my
life.
D
It
makes
me
feel
like
insulted
like
that,
I,
that
everything
I
did
in
that
time
was
not
worth
it
and
who
are
they
to
say
that
what
I
did
was
worthless?
It
isn't
it's
our
state
we
get
to
decide.
This
is
the
public
and
I'm
also
concerned
about
this
thing
about
I.
Don't
really
know
what
the
audit
committee
is,
but
why
are
they
making
all
these
recommendations?
D
I
did
not
major
in
accounting
or
anything
like
that,
but
I'm
very,
very
concerned
that
that
this
items
that
the
audit
committee
are
saying
I
it
it's
like
it
raises
red
flags
and
the
ERC
no
way.
I
have
two
relatives
that
pre
that
had
illnesses
and
died
from
them
and
they
were
probably
from
contaminated
military
or
work
sites.
D
I
have
another
brother
who
has
sustained
health
issues
because
he
worked
at
a
Superfund
Site
when
he
was
19
years
old
in
Mountain
View,
and
it
is
still
listed
as
a
super
fun
site.
You
cannot
have
housing
on
it,
I
I
question
again:
why
are
we
getting
rid
of
all
these
things?
I?
Don't
think
that
the
new
city
council
knows
better
I
I'm
very,
very
concerned
about
this.
Thank
you.
W
Hi
good
evening
again,
I
wrote
a
fry
for
you
here,
president
of
Cupertino,
yeah
I
would
have
used
different
words,
but
I
concur
with
Ms
Griffin's
sediments.
W
There's
such
a
long
list
that
I
went
ahead
and
I
got
the
agenda
outside.
So
I
could
remember
all
of
the
things
that
are
are
changing.
Look
we
had
this
massive
embezzlement.
I
can't
imagine
that
it
was
the
only
thing
that
happened
or
the
only
thing
that's
left
to
be
cleaned
up,
so
we
need
eyes
and
we
need.
W
Hopefully,
the
work
that
I
know
it's
been
mentioned,
but
I'd
like
to
see
it
happen
that
maybe
we
actually
have
a
section
in
our
city
council
meetings
that
has
a
section
of
legislative
review
and
it
comes
to
this
body
and
so
every
agenda
item.
We
have
legislative
review
what's
going
on
in
the
state
if
we
can't
have
it
in
the
committee.
Let's
have
it
in
the
council
and
have
it
agendized
and
if
there's
nothing
going
on,
then
you
say:
there's
nothing,
but
please
have
it
on
the
agenda.
W
We
need
to
know
how
our
state
laws
are
affecting
us
in
Cupertino
on
the
economic
development
working
group.
It's
concerning
that
it
seems
like
it's
a
opaque.
How
I'd
like
to
be
a
member?
How
can
I
become
a
member
I
own
a
business
in
Cupertino
and
I
would
like
to
be
a
member,
and
you
know
if
you
guys
have
trouble
for
the
minutes.
I
understood
there
was
an
issue
having
staff.
Potentially
writing
amendments.
I
I'd
be
very
happy
to
provide
minutes
to
that
body.
W
We
need
to
know
what's
going
on
and
need
to
have
a
community.
That's
why
we're
here
right!
That's
why
we
have
a
stat,
a
wonderful
staff.
That's
why
we
have
a
city
council
and
that's
why
we
have
residents,
because
we
want
to
work
together
to
make
things
better
for
our
city,
design,
Review
Committee
on
that
one.
You
know
I
frankly,
I
think
architecture
in
Cupertino
is
pretty
hideous.
Other
cities
do
have
active
design
review
committees
to
see
it.
W
Obviously
it
hasn't
met
in
a
long
time
and
that's
quite
obvious,
because
Cupertino
is
getting
uglier
by
the
day
and
I
think
that
we
should
have
appropriate
design.
Review
Committee,
that
is,
that
has
even
has
Architects,
like
other
cities,
do
on
their
design,
review
committees
and
same
thing.
Environmental
review
couldn't
have
stated
it
better
than
Ms
Griffin
I
also
was
an
appointed
member
of
that
body
and
I
found
it
to
be
very
useful
for
the
city
and
I'm
sad
to
see
it
go.
W
C
M
M
M
These
recommendations
are
very
thoughtful
changes
that
make
sense
to
me.
I
particularly
support
dissolution
of
the
economic
development
committee,
while
well-intentioned
the
structure
of
this
committee
was
poorly
constructed
right.
Not
only
was
the
structure
not
well
thought
out.
The
interviews
for
this
committee
were
held
by
the
lame
duck
Council,
not
the
incoming
Council,
and
at
that
time
I
strongly
objected.
M
M
M
Cupertino
already
has
one
publicly
traded
biotech
company,
and
my
understanding
is
that
some
of
the
Valco,
the
rise,
as
is
now
called
commercial
space,
is
being
designed
for
biotech
under
other
lab
related
companies
which
don't
provide
for
work
from
home.
You
have
to
work
in
the
lab,
so
I
am
urging
you
to
approve
all
of
the
staff
recommendations
to
streamline
our
city
governance
processes.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
L
So
members
and
staff
I
support
the
comments
made
by
Jennifer
Griffin
and
Rhoda.
Frye
I
find
that
this
action
appears
to
be
a
way
to
eliminate
committees
with
established
members
and
recreate
them
with
your
new
preferences,
it's
sold
as
a
reduction
of
committees,
but
in
reality
you're
replacing
two
of
them
with
your
own
different
names.
L
The
economic
advisory
working
group
is
a
replacement
for
the
economic
development
committee.
The
economic
development
committee
was
transparent,
the
it
had
a
wide
range
of
members:
nine
members,
two
city
council,
Tech
sector,
retail,
small
business,
Hospitality
education,
commercial
sustainability,
Tech
and
two
of
which
were
Cupertino
residents.
This
was
this
was
variety
you
are
on.
Ad
hoc
working
group
is
for
City
staff,
two
council
members,
one
Planning
Commission
and
four
reps
from
the
chamber.
L
The
chamber
has
approximately
200
members.
The
city
has
2
000
business
licenses.
You
are
not
representing
the
majority
of
the
business
community
in
our
city.
This
is
not
it's.
This
is
a
pay
to
play
and
there's
no
documents,
no
minutes
the
public
can
attend.
It
happens
behind
closed
doors.
This
is
not
transparent.
L
Environmental
Review
Committee
replaces
another
committee.
You
just
mentioned.
Why
there's
an
established
codified
committee
with
men
with
with
minutes
and
members?
This
is
just
a
way
to
eliminate
the
people
and
pick
your
own
people.
This
is
not
helping
our
businesses.
This
is
not
helping
our
environment.
Thank
you.
AD
AD
B
B
N
It's
really
sobering,
I
guess
what's
happening,
but
I
will
I
I
sort
of
wish.
I
didn't
say
that
part.
But
it's
it's
a
truth.
N
N
N
A
Thank
you,
madam
city
clerk.
Thanks
for
all
the
public
comments,
I'm
going
to
bring
it
back
to
council
for
discussion
for
five
minutes
each
who
would
like
to
start.
G
Member
Moore,
thank
you.
I'm
just
gonna
make
a
very
brief
comment.
I
think
this
agenda
item
had
too
many
parts
to
it.
It
should
be
broken
up
into
each
separate
committee
and
so
that
the
public
can
understand
it
better
and
review
each
item
with
more
thoroughly.
With
regards
to
you
know
just
one
item,
the
design
Review
Committee:
they
do
have
access
to
an
architect,
there's
a
whole
section
in
the
municipal
code.
On
that,
that's
that's
being
changed.
G
So
I
have
served
on
the
Planning
Commission,
the
environmental
Review
Committee
for
gosh
it's
four
years
there.
Let's
see
the
legislative
Review
Committee
as
well,
and
I
worked
along
with
the
previous
council.
With
regards
to
the
economic
development
committee,
the.
G
Selecting
the
that
new
committee
membership,
so
the
with
regards
to
the
economic
development
committee,
I
I
wrote
an
email
which
is
included
in
the
agenda
packet
back
in
2019,
addressing
the
problems
with
with
the
economic
development
committee
and
with
regards
to
the
brown
Act,
because
it
had
been
in
existence
since
1996,
and
it
was
comprised
of
I
believe
this
was
already
stated
for
a
chamber
of
commerce,
members
and
I
believe
there's
around
200
businesses
that
belong
to
the
Chamber
of
Commerce.
G
G
In
contrast,
I
also
collected
all
of
the
economic
development
committee
meeting
minutes
since
its
Inception
and
those
are
also
available
in
the
agenda
packet.
If
people
would
like
to
actually
take
a
look
at
what
they
were
doing,
because
you
might
be
surprised
because
you
had
four
four
chamber
members:
four
staff
members,
two
members
of
the
council
and
one
planning
commissioner.
So
it's
I
seriously
suggest
that
you
take
a
look
I'm,
deeply
concerned
and
dismayed
a
suggestion
of
having
a
work
at
working
group.
G
I
appreciate
that
an
alternative
suggestion
was
made
to
the
council,
but
every
effort
was
made
by
the
previous
Council
in
order
to
bring
about
transparency
and
accountability
with
with
the
economic
development
committee,
so
that
the
public
would
know
how
the
individuals
were
selected.
It
was
a
public
process.
G
Those
meeting
minutes
to
my
knowledge
haven't
come
to
the
council
from
from
that
meeting,
I
I,
look
it
up
and
and
we
provided
the
ability
for
the
public
to
have
all
the
meeting
minutes
and
every
all
of
the
information
about
what
they
were
doing
because
some
of
the
earlier
meeting
minutes
when
it
was
previously
happening.
G
It
looked
as
though
staff
was
coordinating
to
try
to
assist
particular
business
members.
So
that's
why
I
think
you
should
really
take
a
look,
because
it's
it's
some
some
curious
things
happen.
There
I
I
am
concerned
that
the
the
current
audit
committee
is
not
wanting
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
do
the
work.
G
That
is
tasked
for
them
in
the
municipal
code,
and
so,
as
I
said,
I
had
been
on
the
audit
committee
and
I
chaired
the
audit
committee,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
struck
me
was
that
I
was
reading
what
the
codified
requirements
of
it
were,
and
it
became
very
clear
that
we
were
supposed
to
be
looking
at
monthly
reports
and
that
audit
committee
had
only
been
meeting
as
little
as
three
times
a
year
and
there's
so
they
were.
G
They
were
not
doing
what
what
they
were
tasked
to
do
and
it
seemed
like
a
very
innocent
question
and
then
it
snowballed
into
wow.
We
haven't
been
doing
our
job,
for
this
committee
hasn't
been
doing
their
their
job
for
for
decades,
and
the
finance
department
had
not
been
directing
that
committee
because
there
that's,
where
our
liaison
is
from.
They
weren't
directing
that
committee
to
do
their
job
and
now
that
it's
been
discovered
and
it's
and
we've
had
a
few
months
and
we've
had
this
response
to
the
grand
jury.
G
About
how
we're
looking
at
things
and
being
very
transparent
about
it,
it's
being
rolled
back
so
that
that's
that's
really
upsetting
one
of
the
benefits
we
get
moving
on
to
the
environmental
Review
Committee,
one
of
the
benefits
that
we
get
from
the
environmental
Review
Committee.
Is
we
get
just
like
the
audit
committee?
G
You
get
a
first
set
of
eyes
on
those
environmental
impact
reports,
the
mnds
and
it
isn't
just
coming
to
the
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
to
counsel,
because
if
you've
looked
at
the
these
environmental
reports,
they
are
thousands
of
pages
they're
really
long
and
you
do
want
to
have
as
many
touches
on
it
as
possible,
so
that
people
are
having
an
opportunity
to
look
at
it.
And
it's
the
same
with
the
audit
committee.
G
We've
had
14-year
embezzlement
and
we
we
need
people
to
look
at
these
these
documents
before
they
come
to
council,
the
the
municipal
code,
the
previous
councils,
who
put
that
in
it
having
the
monthly
treasury
report
reviews
they
had
the
right
idea.
A
O
Mary
I
just
wanted
to
restate
the
responsibilities
or
the
changes.
Alleged
changes
made
to
the
audit
committee
functions.
If
you
look
at
the
amendments,
there
are
basically
two
words
that
have
changed
in
in
the
new
duties
Powers.
The
monthly
has
been
changed
to
quarterly,
and
the
treasurer's
report
has
been
clarified
to
say,
treasurer's
investment
report.
We
have
only
met
once
we
have
probably
discussed
what
the
audit
committee
has
or
hasn't
done
for
a
much
longer
time
than
we
have
actually
had
the
meeting.
O
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
let
me
State
one
other
thing
another
set
of
eyes:
that's
always
a
good
thing,
but
the
set
of
eyes
that
we
as
an
audit
committee,
I
suppose
or
as
a
city
council
are
supposed
to
provide,
are
not
the
detailed
accounting
items.
We
have
Finance,
that's
one
set
of
eyes.
We
have
city
manager,
we
have
another
set
of
eyes
and
hopefully,
in
between.
There
are
other
sets
of
eyes.
O
Looking
at
these
reports,
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that
we
as
city
council
would
would
be
have
have
the
need
to
look
into
specific
items
of
the
accounts
payable
register,
especially
that
councilman
council
member,
more
appears
to
reference
the
accounts
payable.
It's
done.
We
have
made
the
payments.
These
are
items
that
have
already
been
purchased
and
the
checks
have
already
been
cut.
So
the
I'm
not
sure
what
it
is
that
we
will
be
reviewing
other
than
to
maybe
say:
why
did
we
do
this
so
and
which
is
not
part
of
the
accounts
payable?
O
That's
a
completely
different
set
of
discussions
to
have.
Why
did
we
paste
this
person
so
much
that
but
I'm
not
clear
that?
That's
something
that
we
can
discuss
as
part
of
an
accounts
payable
discussion?
That's
all
I
have
to
say.
A
So
I
like
to
take
my
five
minutes
to
a
few
say,
a
few
things
I
want
to
start
with,
can
I
have
my
five
minutes.
Curiously,.
P
A
You
I'd
like
to
start
with
the
legislative
Review
Committee
I've
been
listening
to
it.
I
think
it
cost
us
400
a
day
a
year
to
do
it
and
all
I
heard
was
a
lot
of
complaint
and
then
yes,
yes,
we
did
write
letters
to
the
legislators.
Have
they
been
effective
to
me
it's
more
effective
if
we
go
with
the
Cal
cities,
legislative
action
put
our
cities
together
and
fight
for
local
control.
A
That
legislative
committee
I
do
believe
in
his
country.
Council
I.
Think
five
of
us
need
to
make
that
decision,
not
the
two
of
it
and
the
the
count,
the
the
money
we
spend
on
lobbyists
and
the
hours
the
staff
put
on
it
for
us
to
write,
very
effective,
effective
letters
to
the
legislatures,
I.
Don't
think
that's
the
best
time
to
use
our
staff
time
and
our
money.
That's
why
I
think
the
legislative
committee
needs
to
come
to
council
and
we
will
be
informed.
A
We
will
write
letters
together
together
with
our
colleagues
with
our
other
cities.
That's
why
I
do
believe.
Okay,
let's
go
back
to
Economic,
Development
Committee.
Everybody
knows
that
it's
abstained
from
odd
votes.
It
really
needs
to
come
to
New
Council.
To
do
it
10
days
before
the
new
Council
this
morning
is
not
a
good
way
to
do
it,
and
also
how
does
it
say
we
have
economic
direct
director.
She
is
had
expertise,
she's.
You
know
working
on
this
Economic
Development.
How
am
I
going?
Are
we
going
to
have
seven
or
nine
members?
A
Nine
members,
nine
members,
that's
going
to
represent
one
little
fraction
to
be
able
to
do
this.
I,
don't
see
how
this
could
be
done.
I
would
like
to
trust
our
economic
director
Tina
Kapoor,
to
work
on
this.
First,
we
can
always
evaluate
whether
it's
effective
or
not,
people
can
plan
the
chamber
only
represent
200
of
the.
How
many
you
know
registered
business.
Remember.
A
lot
of
registered
businesses
license
they're
one
person
at
home.
A
If
you're
accountant,
if
you're
real
estate
agent,
you
register
if
chamber,
represents
200
and
we
have
nine
members
represent
one
profession,
each
I
don't
know
which
one
is
more
effective,
but
I'm
not
saying
that
we're
going
to
give
this
to
the
chamber.
I
trust
our
staff,
our
economic
director
who
were
hired.
Who
has
the
expertise?
It's
going
to
work
on
economic
development
for
the
city,
that's
I,
I!
Think
we
wouldn't
let
her
do
it
first
and
see
we
can
always
re-evaluate
if
it
is
in
isida.
A
Is
it
workable?
Is
it
effective?
Let's,
let's
have
a
go
on
that
I'm,
going
to
skip
the
environmental
design
review
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
audit
committee
I'm
a
little
tired
of
the
attack
on
our
new
league
academic
City,
our
vice
mayor
and
our
council,
member
from
I
do
believe
they
are
elected,
they're
capable
they
haven't
changed.
A
During
the
meetings
to
attack
our
vice
mayor,
Mohan
I
found
that
that
doesn't
build
any
credibility
or
any
relationship,
so
I
hope
that
stops
and
on
December
14th
when
that
stopped
it
actually
because
of
a
new
enterprise
resource
planning
software
new
world,
that's
being
installed
that
the
current
finance
department
actually
traced
it
and
founded
out
in
2018.
A
This
Council
or
previous
Council
had
no
crediting
it,
and
actually,
if
I,
want
to
repeat
one
more
time
that
we
had
a
city
manager,
Jim
Chu,
who
was
a
finance
expert,
he
credited
our
finance
department
for
tracing
it
find
it.
We
got
most
of
the
money
back.
So
I
am
really
tired
of
listening
to
this
2014
investment
and
and
saying
that
our
staff
is
going
to
make
or
they're
not
honest.
They're
going
to
be,
you
know,
make
a
lot
of
mistakes.
Yes,
we
are
going
to
go
out.
A
You
know
we,
our
staff
I'm,
going
to
read
this
okay,
in
conjunction
with
the
upgrade
of
the
city's
enterprise
resource
planning
software
in
2014.,
the
city
Incorporated,
a
decentralized
accounting
structure
to
enhance
segregation,
purchasing
and
financial
duties.
Our
finance
department
is
doing
their
duty
to
prevent
this
from
happening
again
it
it's
not
something.
If
you
read
clearly
of
what
happened,
it's
not
something
can
be
easily
found
it's
over
14
years
of
investment
from
one
person
and
I
do
believe.
A
Our
finance
department
is
very
aware
yet
so
I
am
really
tired
of
listening
to
it
to
blend
out
our
invest
our
finance
department,
especially
to
blend
it,
on
our
vice
mineral
hand,
so
I'm
going
to
make
that
clear
that
this
should
not
be
mentioned
again
and
we
we
would
have
a
big
report
on
this
investment.
We
got
most
of
money
back
so
I
just
hope
that
we
trust
arguing
that
the
elected
council
members
to
make
sure
that
they
are
as
capable
I
want
to
give
the
council
member
more
her
credit
for
finding
that.
A
A
I
think
we
all
use
them
for
five
minutes.
But
if
council
member.
A
I
I
do
want
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
the
economic
development
committee.
I.
Just
think
that
this
committee,
the
way
that
it
has
constituted,
is
going
to
have
a
very
hard
time
achieving
its
goal
in
particular,
because
it
is
going
to
have
to
be
everything
conducted
in
public
and
everyone
who
is
on.
I
It
will
have
to
be
subject
to
a
form:
700
disclosure,
which
means
that
the
people
whose
expertise
you're
looking
for
can't
have
a
conflict
of
interest
in
the
city
on
the
topic
that
they
want
to
discuss,
and
that
seems
like
it's
going
to
frequently
engender
a
recusal
and
I.
Think
that
that's
going
to
be
a
problem.
I
think
that
the
suggestion
that
the
city
manager
has
made
in
the
staff
report
is
a
good
one.
I
I
think
that
it's
sufficiently
Nimble
I
think
it
allows
for
a
more
Frank
and
open
and
honest
discussion
of
issues
that
would
frankly
not
occur
if
the
meetings
were
forced
to
be
occurring
in
public
in
a
noticed.
Forum,
that
is,
is
simply
too
ossified
and
too
difficult
to
react
in
with
respect
to
the
lrc.
I
You
know:
I
I
shared
the
the
mayor's
General
view.
I
have
watched,
I
think
every
single
lrc
proceeding,
except
for
the
very
first
one
and
it
it
simply
has
not
managed
to
fulfill
its
purpose,
or
at
least
it
has
not
been
able
to
prosecute
the
legislative
agenda
of
the
city
and
I
think
that
very
frequently.
Instead,
it
engenders
the
exact
opposite
response.
I
We
send
a
letter
to
Sacramento
expressing
a
particular
view
on
most
especially
housing
legislation,
and
then
the
result
is
frequently
to
point
to
cupertino's
opposition
as
a
reason
to
support
it
instead,
so
I
think
that
we
have
not
been
particularly
effective
through
that
mechanism,
when
we
should
use
a
different
one
with
respect
to
the
environmental
Review
Committee
I
hope
everyone
understands
very
fully
that
the
functions
of
this
committee
are
not
going
away.
They
are
simply
being
committed
to
different
bodies.
It
will
make
us
a
lot
more
effective.
I
It
will
remove
what
is
frankly,
a
very,
very
strange
structure.
There
is
no
other
city
that
has
an
environmental,
Review,
Committee
structured.
The
way
that
ours
is
so
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
good
and
useful
change.
It
will
also
ensure
that
there
are
fewer
points
in
the
process.
It
will
streamline
development
applications
in
a
way
that
is
better
for
the
city
overall,
for
applicants
and
for
those
who
are
interested
in
commenting
on
the
the
process.
I
also
think
it.
I
I
The
the
state's
push
is,
generally
speaking
toward
objective
Divine
design
standards.
So
if
we
want
to
ensure
that
there's
some
sort
of
meaning
to
our
design
review,
we
need
to
be
adopting
objective
standards
and
putting
that
through
a
different
process.
Those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
H
Q
H
The
public
comment
all
right,
please
yeah,
so
I
feel
very
concerned
that
we
are
using
the
word
effective
and
streamlining
to
undermine
transparency
and
accountability,
which
is
essential
in
a
public
agency,
and
especially,
we
use
that
as
using
the
grand
jury
report
which
contain
a
lot
of
false
information
to
say
we
are
doing
this,
it's
very
concerning.
If
we
want
to
fix
a
problem,
we
need
to
be
sure
we
have
facts
so
that
we
identify
the
real
problem
where
they're
going
around
and
just
fixing
things
without,
even
knowing,
maybe
we
are
making
things
worse.
H
That
seems
to
be
what
this
Council
has
been
doing
so
far,
and
I
actually
agree
that
we
should
disband
the
legislative,
Review
Committee.
But
I
would
like
have
a
question.
So
do
we
still
have
a
current
contract
with
lobbyists?
Are
we
going
to
continue
that?
Yes,
we
still
do
and
that's
a
annually
flat
fee
that.
E
L
H
And
and
thank
you,
design,
contract
and
also
I
would
like
to
get
there
and
to
know
that
exactly
what
they
are
serving
the
city
for,
so
that
would
be
great
to
know
and
then
they,
so
that
means
they
can
still
provide
Council
legislative
updates,
they're.
E
H
Okay
and
then
I
want
to
clarify
that
my
I
think
Amendment
for
the
item
in
the
last
study
session
was
not
to
bring
the
working
group
and
it
was
a
little
mischaracterized.
My
intent
was
for
this
to
be
brought
to
a
study
session,
so
the
council
can
discuss
how
best
to
achieve
the
goal
we
need
to
achieve.
H
That
was
original
intended
with
the
economic
development
committee
and
mayor
Han
mentioned
that
there
are
only
nine
members,
but
that's
specifically
why
this
meeting
has
to
be
a
public
meeting
so
that
member
of
the
public
can
comment
and
others
who
have
Financial
interests
can
serve
on
the
community.
They
can
always
come
in,
which
is
why
we
have
five
council
members
representing
the
entire
Cupertino,
but
the
ones
who
are
making
decisions
have
to
declare
no
financial
interest
with
the
working
group.
The
Very
concern
is
the
people
who
have
Financial
interests.
H
Who
will
benefit
will
then
now
have
a
backdoor
meeting
with
the
city
staff,
and
would
the
public
will
have
no
idea
what
they
are
talking
about
until
the
annual
report
a
year
later,
and
maybe
all
and
all
this
and
the
people
who
want
to
get
on
the
group
working
group
like
Rhoda,
probably
won't
be
accepted
and
who
this
kind
of
close
to
Door
meeting
has
provided
access
to.
Only
certain
in
include
certain
Elites
in
Cupertino,
and
that's
really
not
a
democratic
process.
H
So
I
still
don't
understand
the
except
the
wrong
act
requirement
economically
work.
The
committee,
which
will
bring
economic
benefit
to
Cupertino.
We
cannot
invest
a
little
bit
of
City
staff
hours
to
provide
a
publicly
accessible
that
could
provide
Equitable
access
to
all
the
businesses
and
all
the
public
to
attend
and
understand
what
we
they
are
recommending
to
the
council
and
somehow
that's
not
a
well
spent
of
City
hours
and
time
and
and
if,
if
this
Council
cannot
support
it's
on,
so
we
support
a
more
closed
door.
H
A
Do
we
so
we
are
at
935?
Actually
we
were
right
on
time.
So
does
the
council
want
to
have
another
round
of
couple
minutes
input
or
we're?
Okay,
with
a
motion
and
a
second.
A
Okay,
so
I
think
I
don't
see
a
board
of
support
that
we're
going
to
have
a
couple
more
minutes,
but
with
a
motion
a
second,
maybe
we
could
open
up
to
another
couple
minutes
of
support
of
discussion.
Okay,
so
do
we
have
a
motion?
Yes,.
I
So
I
will
I
will
second
but
I'd.
Ask
for
the
city
attorney's
view
on
how
we
need
to
read
the
the
request
for
the
motion.
Y
So
so,
I
I
think
that
the
the
motion
could
be
as
simple
as
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendation
and
and
request
that
the
the
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
be
waived.
I
E
Deliberation
again
mayor
way
clarification
council,
member
proven.
Can
you
also
clarify
your
position
on
the
resolution.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
give
everybody
a
couple
minutes
to
deliberate
councilman
Memorial.
Do
you
have
your.
G
License
on
yes,
I
do
thank
you,
so
I
would
like
to
have
it
clarified,
perhaps
by
the
the
treasurer
what
the
difference
is
between
the
monthly
Treasures
report
and
the
monthly
investment
report.
G
So
that
is
a
question
and
while
that's,
if
that's
possible
and
then
with
regards
to
the
Gonzalez
question,
if
they're
on
retainer
or
would
their
invoices
explain
what
their
work
has
actually
been
because
I'd
like
to
see
a
copy
of
the
invoices,
if
that
would
show
more
specifically
what
they've
been
working
on.
E
So,
in
terms
of
the
treasures
report,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
administrative
Services
director
to
walk
us
through
of
the
differences
I
will
provide
just
send
out
the
contract
for
our
lobbyists
to
all
Council.
For
your
reference.
We
can
pull
the
invoices
I,
don't
believe
that
it
describes
the
functions
that
they
have
carried.
I
mean
their
invoice
is
not
as
detailed,
but
we
can
definitely
provide
that.
AI
The
sun
yeah
I,
want
to
make
sure
so
the
question
was
describe
the
difference
between
the
two
monthly
Treasures
reports
is
that
correct.
AI
It
so
the
monthly
Treasures
report
specifically
shows
receipts
disbursements
and
fund
balance
on
a
monthly
basis.
The
monthly
treasurer's
investment
report
shows
the
Investments
the
city
has
made
during
that
month
and
also
gives
a
report
of
market
conditions
and
things
that
are
occurring,
so
any
transactions
that
occur
during
that
month
and
an
update
on
market
conditions
for
the
investment
report.
Okay,.
G
AI
G
Okay,
so
the
changes
to
the
municipal
code
will
make
it
so
the
audit
committee
is
no
longer
looking
at
the
monthly
Treasury
service
report,
the
receipts,
disbursements
and
fund
balances.
They
will
no
longer
be
looking
at
that
and
instead
of
looking
at
the
monthly
investment
report
and
having
that
receiving
that
report
from
Carlos
I
believe
his
name
is
that's
going
to
stop.
So
they
would
only
have
a
quarterly
investment
report
from
Chandler
and
U.S
Bank.
That's.
AI
G
AI
You
correcting
just
the
point
of
clarification:
41004
does
not
have
the
requirement
that
accounts
payable
be
attached.
It's
simply
that
receipts,
disbursements
and
fund
balance
be
reported
on,
and
so
that
that
accounts
payable
was
added.
As
a
recommendation
of
the
subcommittee
for
the
treasurer's
format,
review,
okay
are
doing
is
taking
the
reporting
back
to
what
is
required
by
the
code.
Okay,.
AI
A
So
I
do
have
a
question
before
you
go
Christina,
so
Auto
reports,
monthly
disbursement
will
come
to
council
correct.
So
all
five
council
members
still
have
our
eyes
on
it.
That's
correct
so
council,
member
Moore,
even
she's,
not
on
the
other
committee.
She
still
has
eyes
on
all
those
reports.
That's.
AI
G
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
My
time,
I
think
it's
still
running
okay.
So
thank
you
with
regards
to
the
reports
not
coming
to
audit
and
coming
to
council
we're
receiving
so
like
for
this
agenda
item.
G
This
agenda
agenda
is
meeting
I
should
say
the
agenda
came
out
a
Wednesday
evening,
okay
and
now
we're
going
to
have
no
safety
net
of
the
audit
committee,
which
has
three
Finance
individuals
on
it
and,
and
then
the
two
council
members,
so
that
that
was
supposed
to
have
been
our
our
layer
of
expertise
in
the
finance
world
before
it
comes
to
council.
So
we
will
have
agendas
that
will
have
all
of
the
accounts
payable.
G
The
monthly
report,
the
monthly
treasurer's
report,
the
investment
report,
no
pre-check,
no
pre-check,
except
for
once
in
a
while
in
the
investment
report,
and
it's
all
going
to
be
coming
at
meetings
which
will
have
eirs
in
them
and
so
I
I
you're.
Asking
for
this
is
increasing
risk
and
reduces
oversight
and
I.
Think
that's
a
really
it's
a
foolish
idea.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilmember
Moore
I
just
want
to
make
one
clarification.
I
do
read
and
check
everything,
so
I
think
five
eyes
are
pretty
good
and
yeah,
and
you
still
have
the
ice
on
it
too,
because
remember
more
so,
I
want
to
open
up
to
other
people
for
two
minutes.
Please.
H
So
I
think
in
in
the
past,
we
really
have
benefited
from
being
able
for
the
public
or
council
member
to
ask
questions
on
accounts
payable
or
monthly
treasurer's
report
when
it's
on
the
council
agenda,
when
it's
not
just
informational
item
and
now,
if
it's
over
gender
informational
item,
what
we
have
found
out
in
the
past,
for
example,
that
we
have
been
paying
an
organization,
sixteen
thousand
dollars
without
any
contract
that
we
find
out
on
another.
This
organization
receives
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
in
payment
for
a
website
turns
out
that
benefits
their
own
members.
H
So
how
will
the
council
be
able
to
ask
questions
if
we
find
something
we
would
like,
because
the
embezzlement,
if
someone
had
been
looking
at
the
accounts
payable
likely,
someone
would
be
asking?
How
can
we
are
paying
this
organization,
but
now
with
offer
gender
memo?
I
would
like
to
understand.
What's
the
process
for
asking
questions,
so
we
can
bring
up.
Also,
the
council
can
really
provide
oversight,
manager.
E
H
E
H
I
I
Yeah,
in
addition
to
asking
questions
directly
of
the
city
manager
or
of
Staff
if
necessary,
if
Council
wants
to,
we
can
always
agendize
an
item
in
the
future
for
actual
discussion.
If
we've
deemed
that,
that's
appropriate
I
think
that
this
process
is
much
better
in
terms
of
ensuring
that
you
can
get
your
questions
answered,
you
can
get
them
answered
in
a
professional
fashion
that
doesn't
put
staff
on
the
spot
at
the
last
second
to
explain
some
some
piece
of
of
minor
minutiae,
and
instead
we,
if
you
need
to
actually
have
it
on
an
agenda
item.
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
more
discussions?
I
think
we
are
not
going
to
because
I
already
give
extra
time
and
I
do
believe.
It's
time
we
can
put
on
a
vote.
If
that's
okay
with
the
council
members
I
disagree.
H
A
A
H
I
I
would
like
to
propose
the
motion,
because
I
would
I
would
like
I
support
the
legislative
action,
Review
Committee
to
be
even
you're,
going
to
make.
H
H
Yeah,
so
my
motion
would
be
adopting
the
resolution
number
23-206
for
on
to
repeal
and
replace
the
resolution
number
18-1001
for
regarding
legislative
Review
Committee.
However,
I'd
like
to
remove
the
section
which
I
mentioned
that
my
create
on
misunderstanding
for
on
this
section
that
says
this
legislative
review
can
committee
that
was
established
by
the
previous
2018
Council
does
not
comply
with
Municipal
Code,
because
the
advice
has
changed
so
apparently
previous
counts.
The
city
council,
attorney's
office
had
did
not
think
so.
Then
adding
this
paragraph
gives
the
incorrect
background
information
about
the
resolution.
A
A
Y
A
G
Would
like
to
second
that
with
a
a
friendly
Amendment,
if
you
would
be
so
kind,
I
would
like
to,
and
you
can
say
no
but
I
would
like
to
retain
2.96
the
economic
development
committee
and
to
strike
the
edit
to
the
audit
committee
2.88,
so
that
the
audit
committee
will
continue
to
review
those
documents
on
a
monthly
basis
and
provide
that
level
of
security.
For
us.
If.
G
So
we
vote
okay,
council
member
child.
Would
you
please
restate
your
original
motion
because
I
don't
think
I
understand
it
correctly.
H
G
Q
G
P
G
Vote
on
that
I
have
a
substitute
motion.
Okay,
substitute
motion
that
we
would
approve
the
recommended
action
item
one
and
for
item
two.
We
would
modify
it
to
retain
2.96,
so
we
would
not
be
repealing
it
and
to
remove
the
change
to
2.88,
which
is
under
item
two
and
three
find
the
actions
exempt
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
Act.
G
So
that
we
would
move
to
approve
item
one,
the
adopting
resolution
23-026.
G
To
vote
I
have
a
comment:
okay,
so
they're
through
the
mayor,
there
was
a
a
mention
about
a
an
entity
which
was
receiving
monies
without
a
contract.
Over
the
past
five
years,
I
was
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
so
and
and
I
do
think
that
information
is
in
the
agenda
packet
and
it
is
an
item
that
we've
been
waiting
since
June
of
last
year
to
come
back
so.
Q
T
G
Seeing
the
history
and
I
don't
think
that
there's
been.
A
An
adequate
reporting
to
council
I,
don't
think
we're
discussing
it
right
now
we
are
going
to
either
you
have
a
subject,
emotion
or
we're
going
to
vote
on
the
region
of
motion
all
right.
So
let's
vote
on
the
region
of
motion
by
late.
Y
Sure,
before
the
vote,
May
I
asked
the
clerk
to
read
the
ordinance
by
title.
A
We
are
just
25
minutes.
Do
everybody
want
to
take
a
break?
Does
anybody
need
a
break,
a
five
minute
break
yeah,
please
thank
you.
A
A
Q
Q
Q
A
A
Yeah
now
we're
going
to
move
into
the
consent
agenda
number
five
and
six:
that's
being
pulled
I
like
to
make
a
motion
to
consider
consent
agenda
six.
First,
we're
gonna,
take
public
comments
on
that
white
item.
Two
so
do
I
have
a
second
please.
Second,
so
I
have
a
move
in
a
second
to
to
to
go
over
the
concern
agenda
6
before
constant
gender.
Five
May
I
maybe
have
a
vote.
A
Put
all
their
lights,
I
made
a
motion
to
move
consent
agenda
six
above
five,
so
we
can
consider.
A
So
do
you
agree,
do
you
know
all
right?
Thank
you
so.
C
Mission
carries
with
ciao
verino
and
more
abstaining.
Okay.
A
E
E
We
do
have
a
staff
report.
We
do
not
have
Seth
presentation
ready
for
this
item,
given
that
this
is
on
consent.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
there
are
a
number
of
communications
questions
received
from
Council
that
we
provide
a
response
in
the
written
communication
that
was
published
yesterday.
Okay
I
do
have
acting
director
chat
mostly
available
to
answer
any
further
questions
that
Council
may
have
for
this
item.
Okay,.
A
So,
let's
go
to
council
questions
before
we
take
public
comment.
Do
we
have
questions
from
Council?
I
do
have
one
question
Chad,
so
the
the
lady
Marilyn
Francisco
I
believe
she
is
online
or
she
indicates
she
will
be
online.
When
did
she
start
the
application?
I?
Remember
it's
May
2022.
AH
D
AH
Further
respect
to
her
application,
she
did
apply
for
a
plaque
in
early
2022.
If
I
recall,
yeah.
A
A
G
This
is
a
question
for
for
Chad.
Have
we
placed
plaques
before
based
on
the
current
policy.
AH
Previously
there
I
mean
there
have
been
plaques
that
have
been
placed
in
the
past.
None
of
them
have
been
placed
based
on
this
policy,
since
this
policy
has
not
been
enacted
and
in
fact,
we've
not
placed
any
new
plaques
since
May
of
2022.
G
Okay,
so
there
were,
there
were
I,
think
two
examples
that
were
in
the
agenda
packet
and
it
looked
as
though
those
individuals
had
purchased
an
item
or
made
a
donation.
How
did
that
work.
AH
Joining
the
plaque
and
trying
to
find
a
location
that
would
serve
the
public
does
not
hinder
the
The
public's
use
of
parks.
With
that
stated,
you
know.
Currently
the
parks
and
rec
commission
has
provided
recommendations
on
a
number
of
benches
to
be
placed
in
Parks
throughout
the
city,
including
some
recommended
locations
and
I.
Think
when
we
go
to
install
benches
in
the
future,
we'll
look
at
opportunities
to
to
place
benches
in
those
locations.
G
Okay,
so
that
wouldn't
be
the
staff
would
I
mean
the
council
would
have
no
input
on
that
and
so
memorial
benches,
with
with
with.
Basically
any
kind
of
writing
on
that
plaque
could
be,
could
be
put
anywhere
so,
for
instance,
at
Creekside
Park.
If
I
wanted
to
put
a
put
a
bench
with
a
plaque
commemorating
anyone
free
free
speech,
I
guess
that
could
happen.
AH
So,
with
respect
to
the
bench
policy,
we
have
indicated
that
individuals
to
be
commemorated
should
have
a
direct
connection
with
Cupertino
and
additionally,
the
language
that
is
being
indicated
on
the
plaque
needs
to
be.
You
know,
in
memory
of
in
loving
memory
of
or
dedicated
to
the
individual's
name,
we're
limiting
the
the
language
that
can
be
placed
on
these
plaques
to
hinder
potentially.
AH
Certain
you
know
statements
that
may
be
controversial.
We're
basically
trying
to
provide
these
plaques
as
memorials
for
individuals
who
are
directly
associated
with
Cupertino.
G
So,
if
I
understand
correctly
that,
if,
if
you
had
a
family
member
that
didn't
live
in
Cupertino,
you
would
not
be
able
to
have
a
have
a
bench
plaque
commemorating
them
is
that
right.
AH
Again,
we
would
look
into
the
case-by-case
basis
if
this
person
lived
in
Cupertino,
they
would
have
a
direct
connection
with
Cupertino,
potentially
for
somebody
who
lives
in
Cupertino
and
an
immediate
relative,
the
requesting
a
plaque
for
an
immediate
relative
that
may
be
considered
if
somebody
wanted
to
put
in
a
commemorative
plaque,
for
let's
say,
Vladimir.
H
AH
Y
That's
that
that's
correct,
I
I
could
I
could
I
couldn't
step
in
briefly.
So
the
issue
is,
you
know,
once
we
open
this,
this
kind
of
public
space
open
to
General
members
of
the
public
we
can't
discriminate
based
on
Viewpoint.
Y
However,
we
can
set
standards
based
on
on
the
content,
reasonable
time
place
manner,
restrictions
on
the
content,
so
so
that's
that
that
that's
why
you
know
this
that
there's
a
relatively
narrow
range
of
statements
that
we're
allowing
on
the
benches
and
trying
to
prescribe
some
some
some
some
some
some
Viewpoint
neutral
regulations
for
this
kind
of
Memorial
bench.
Y
You
know
to
avoid
an
issue
where
you
know:
there's
there's
a
First
Amendment
issue
and
the
city
might
wind
up
associated
with
speech
that
you
know
we
we
wouldn't
think
reflects
well
on
the
city
or
our
Parks.
You
know-
and
we
would
have
a
hard
time,
perhaps
restricting
that
due
to
the
First
Amendment.
G
In
in
all
of
the
city,
parks
are,
are
fair
game,
for
these
memorial
benches
is
that
is
that
correct,
because
honestly,
I
would
prefer
and
I
kind
of
had
thought
that
Memorial
Park
with
the
word
memorial
had
some
kind
of
historic
significance
with
regards
to
that,
and
and
so
then
my
other
concern
is
that
we're
looking
at
a
Memorial
Park
reconstruction
and
what
happens
to
these
benches?
What,
if
you
want
to
have
them
all
re-coordinated
you're?
G
Looking
your
your
Architects
are
looking
for
a
different
look,
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
that
and
and
I,
don't
necessarily
want
to
go
to
each
and
every
Park
and
and
end
up
seeing
a
memorial
bench.
Maybe
maybe
that's
not
something
everyone
wants
to
see
throughout
the
city.
Okay,
thank
you.
H
You
know
the
community
so
the
past
ones,
that
the
staff
interest
mentioned
in
the
staff
report.
The
post
parties
donated
the
bench
and
then
the
plaque
was
on
the
bench
they
donated
right.
H
AH
Again,
I
don't
have
all
the
information
of
past
plaques
that
have
been
installed.
We're
bringing
this
policy
forward
to
basically
dictate
how
these
plaques
will
be
installed.
Moving
into
the
future.
H
H
E
The
mayor
by
may
but
I
understand,
council
member
Charles
question
I
believe
there
was
a
naming
policy
that
the
council
was
contemplating.
It's
not
the
bench
policy,
it's
to
name
a
facility
or
a
park
or
a
place
after
certain
criteria.
I
don't
know
if
that
policy
has
been
finalized,
but
that's
not
the
policy
we're
coming
before
you.
E
H
H
Yeah
okay,
never
mind
so
then
another
thing
I,
think
the
council
Direction
in
that
meeting
was
to
bring
this
item
back
with
the
proposed
bench.
Dedication
policy,
but
the
the
request
for
a
place
will
be
considered
after
the
policy
is
adopted.
That
was
the
Consular
direction
right.
AH
We're
we're
bringing
the
policy
before
you
and
with
that
policy
is
also
the
option
to
consider
the
plaque
for
Maryland
Francisco
yeah.
H
E
I'll
answer
that
through
the
mayor
show
this:
this
is
not
on
the
work
program.
You're,
absolutely
right.
We're
our
following
council's
direction
to
Paul
to
develop
the
policy
given
that
Maryland
Francisco
has
been
patiently
waiting,
so
Steph
went
ahead
and
made
a
recommendation
on
our
own
you're,
absolutely
right.
A
Thank
you.
So,
let's
open
up
for
the
public
comment,
please,
yes,.
C
We
have
one
speaker
card
from
Jennifer,
Griffin
and
I
will
check
the
zoom.
Please
have
your
hands
raised
in
nine
minutes.
Welcome
Jennifer
hi.
D
Yeah
good,
it's
working.
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
placement
of
this
is
a
bit
bizarre,
but
that's
okay,
I'm
glad
we
got
to
it.
As
you
all
understand,
commemorative
benches
Etc
are
very,
very
personal
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
important
for
the
city
to
have
a
policy
of
this.
My
mother
lived
in
Pacific
Grove
for
many
years.
D
There
was
benches
all
over
the
city,
especially
near
the
ocean
that
had
names
of
people
who
enjoyed
the
sea
Santa
Cruz
County,
where
she
is
now
we
find
these
all
over
the
place
downtown
San
Jose.
Has
these
also
I
understand
that
it's
a
very,
very
complicated
issue.
I
am
familiar
with
the
naming
issue
over
the
fish
tank
and
the
library
with
Sandy
James
in
about
2004,
and
the
upshot
was
that
you're
supposed
to
have
passed
away
before
anything
can
be
named
from
you.
D
I
am
suggesting
now
that
we
name
the
280,
formerly
pineapple,
Sarah
bike
trail
after
Steve
Jobs.
He
he
is
the
living
legend
in
this
city
and
he
worked
in
both
he
it
I
won't
even
go
into
it.
I
think
we
should
do
that
now
at
this
point.
I
think
that
it
would
be
really
really
prudent
for
the
city
council
to
set
up
a
research
group
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
policy
about
memorial
benches.
We
have
lots
of
parks.
D
We
have
Memorial
Park
I,
think
that
another
thing
we
could
do
is
have
funds
that
families
could
donate
money
to
maybe
a
military
fund,
a
fund
for
people
who
liked
environmental
issues,
people
who
liked
nature
Birds,
Etc
and
then
have
have
a
standard
plaque
on
the
bench
in
memory
of
so
and
so,
and
you
know
you
can
even
have
the
birth
date,
death
date
I've
seen
this
all
over
the
place,
my
family
has
been
giving
out
two
music
scholarships
at
Homestead,
High
School
for
the
last
eight
years
in
honor
of
my
brother,
we're
very,
very
happy
with
it
and
I.
D
My
family
also
gives
out
a
an
annual
scholarship
in
the
hometown
in
Virginia
and
I.
Think
that
that,
for
me
personally,
has
been
one
of
the
highlights
of
the
memorial
of
a
person
and
I
think
that
I
I
understand
that
Miss
Francesco
she
wants
to
honor
her
friend
or
whoever
this
family
member
was
I.
Think
it's
time
that
we
have
a
policy
set
up
on
this
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
it.
We
can
look
at
what
other
cities
do
et
cetera
the
county.
D
This
isn't
the
first
time
the
city
has
had
meetings
about
what
type
of
bench
Furniture
go
along
like
Stevens,
Creek,
Boulevard
et
cetera
Etc,
and
it's
probably
time
to
do
that
because
you
know
I
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
I
spend
a
lot
of
times
at
cemeteries.
Okay,
yes,
I
do,
but
thank
you.
They
are
tremendous
learning
places.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
L
Evening,
council,
members
and
staff
I've
sent
suggestions
on
the
Forum
and
policy
via
email.
Please
see
my
email
comments.
They're
based
on
location
of
the
bench
I
think
that
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
should
should
be
involved.
Not
just
Public's
works,
a
verification.
The
policy
does
not
specify
who
verifies
the
required
connection
to
Cupertino
application
form.
The
form
should
state
that
there
needs
to
be
a
direct
connection
to
the
city
of
Cupertino
on
the
Forum
when
they
fill
it
out,
and
it
should
also
state
that
no
organization
or
groups
will
be
considered.
L
L
You
are
setting
a
procedure,
you
are
setting
up
a
procedure
which
is
a
good
start,
but
then
you
turn
around
and
immediately
make
an
exception
to
wave
the
theme
procedures
work
best.
If
the
rules
are
followed
over
and
over
I've
heard
the
whole
Council
said
it
procedures
need
to
be
in
place.
This
is
the
time
to
follow
the
procedure.
Exceptions
mean
people
can
pull
strings,
that
no
people
and
it
implies
favoritism.
L
Please
make
the
changes
suggested
on
the
application
form
and
deny
the
fee
waiver,
but
encourage
the
applicant
to
donate
in
honor
of
their
love.
This
is
a
very
emotional
time
and
having
a
bench
in
their
memory
is
fine,
but
it
should
not
be
an
existing
bench.
You're
setting
a
precedent
that
the
next
person
coming
along
will
want
to
do.
I
want
to
just
get
a
fee
waiver
and
just
slap
a
plate
on
an
existing
bench.
Please
do
not
set
this
precedent.
You're
you're,
on
the
right
track
with
the
procedure
follow
your
procedure.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Madison
crook
I
want
to
tell
Jennifer
that
I
really
appreciate
your
donation
to
The
Homestead
Ben
I
was
a
school
board.
Member
I
was
there
almost
every
year
and
we
heard
about
a
band.
It's
really
pretty.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
I
want
to
bring
this
back
to
council
for
discussion.
Do
we
want
to
make
a
motion
and
second,
first
before
discussion,
or
do
we
want
to
discuss
first
I'm
going
to
do
the
pleasure
of
the
council.
G
Yeah
I
prefer
that
we
discuss
first
just
go
ahead.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
we
just
heard
from
from
Peggy
and
I
do
agree
with
the
parks
and
rec
issue
in
particular,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
parks
are
well
designed
and
that
we're
not
putting
these
concrete
pads
and
these
benches
in
areas
and
then
changing
our
mind
about
them.
G
Like
I
had
mentioned
about
Memorial
Park
I'm
worried
that
we
we
might
be
constraining
the
use
of
that
space
or
making
it
more
difficult
and
more
expensive
to
change
things
in
the
future.
G
A
couple
of
years
ago,
I
had
the
pleasure
of
being
at
the
Lady
Bird
Johnson
Botanic
Garden
in
outside
of
Austin,
and
it
you
have
to
pay
to
go
in,
but
there
are
many
of
the
garden
rooms.
I'll
call
them
were
dedicated
by
various
families
and
individuals,
and
there
are
beautiful
benches
which
have
plaques
on
them
throughout
the
whole
park.
It's
it's
absolutely
beautiful.
G
So
if
you
get
a
chance
just
to
visit
it
online
go
ahead
and
do
that
it's
it's
it's
awesome,
but
what
I
liked
about
it
was
that
these
these
benches
were
very
artistic
and
there
it
wasn't
just
your
typical
park
bench.
There
were
some
in
the
shapes
of
dragonflies
and
butterflies
and
and
with
you
know,
beautiful
patina
on
them.
G
So
I.
You
know
I
like
that.
This
this
bench
idea
is
here,
but
I
would
like
it
to
have
some
architectural
oversight
about
it,
so
that
we're
kind
of
reaching
a
little
bit
above
and
beyond,
and
maybe
there's
areas
where
you
you
donate
you
you,
you
donate
the
five
thousand
dollars
and
you
get
a
typical
bench.
But
if
you
want
to
have
this,
you
know
glorious
artistically
designed
bench,
you
can.
G
You
can
pay
some
more
and
have
your
name
put
on
that
or,
if
you'd
like
to
have
some
other
decorative
item,
perhaps
outdoor
Sculpture
Garden
in
in
some
area,
if
you'd
like
to
donate
that
that
that
option
could
potentially
be
be
made
available
and
and
have
this,
but
have
the
items
be
something
that
was
decided
for
by
by
professionals,
so
that
these
these
items
are
very
Tastefully
done.
G
As
we
all
know,
we've
received
giving
emails
in
support
of
the
dolas
and,
and
one
of
them
actually
was
asking
for
benches
in
an
area
which
I
think
is
an
interesting
request
and
and
but
if
an
area
hasn't
been
kind
of
scoped
out
by
Public
Works
in
coordination
with
Parks
and
Rec,
then
we
might
not
have
these
items
put
in
the
best
locations
and
it
so
I
think
that
that
would
help
so
and
I
do
agree
that
this
is
setting
a
a
precedent
with
regards
to
waiving
so
much
money
for
an
individual
that
that
that
this
it's
problematic
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
getting
into
it.
G
You
know,
I
am
very
sorry
that
this
item
came
to
council
as
it
did
when
when
it
did
There's
it
seemed
as
though
there
was
a
misinterpretation
of
established
code
or
policy
in
in
the
past
that
the
the
staff
had
been
able
to
provide
the
the
plaque
on
benches,
and
we
have
these
examples
where
it
was
followed
correctly,
but
this
this
item,
you
know
something
happened
with
it,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
be
setting
the
precedent
and
just
giving
away
City
resources
in
this
manner.
I'm.
G
You
know
I'm,
sorry
to
say
that
all
right
with
that
I
think
the
question
of
who
verifies.
If
the
person
has
a
connection
to
Cupertino
I,
don't
know
what
ideas
you
have
on
how
to
do
that
I
think
it.
It
could
be
complicated
if
you
do
have.
If
anyone
from
staff
has
some
idea
how
that
could
happen,
you're
just
gonna
have
to
take
someone's
word
for
it.
I
don't
know
so.
I'll
leave
it
with
that.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
do
we
have
other
comments
that
was
a
vice
mayor,
Mohan.
O
So
my
understanding
is
this
is
not
something
that
happens
very
frequently
if
I
looked
at
the
staff
report,
it's
two
two
instances
in
the
last
several
years
so.
O
So
I'm
not
sure
we
should
be
too
concerned
that
there
will
be
like
an
avalanche
of
bench.
Commemories
commemoration
requests
so
I'm,
not
I
would
like
to
sort
of
move
fast
on
this
item.
O
There
is
a
five
thousand
dollars
set
up
for
10
years:
maintenance
installing
the
bench
and
the
plaque
I
would
like
to
make
an
exception
for
Miss
Francesco.
She
has
waited
since
May
and
it
is
to
commemorate
a
loved
one
and
there's
no
question
of
setting
a
precedent
once
this.
We
approve
this.
This
becomes
policy,
and
this
is
the
Miss
Francesco's
request
is
the
only
one
in
the
pipeline,
so
there
wouldn't
be
any
question
of
a
precedent,
so
I'd
like
to
move
forward
on
this.
H
H
A
community
member
brings
something
they
want
to
do
a
certain
thing.
The
city
current
policy
doesn't
support
a
plague
hour
is
existing
bench
normally,
wouldn't
the
staff
would
just
tell
them?
That's.
We
don't
have
allow
that
and
that's
it
rather
than
come
to
the
council,
to
adopt
a
new
policy
to
allow
this
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
come
the
staff
has
not
denied
the
request
and
then
somehow
miscommunicated
and
then
resulted
in
this
applicant.
Keep
waiting.
E
AH
So
my
understanding
is
there
is
there
was
a
donation
policy
in
place
that
allowed
for
certain
donations,
including
plaques,
and
then
I
think
with
that
policy
there
was
a
requirement
to
come
to
council
when
this
was
brought
in
May.
There
was
a
request
to
have
a
very
specific
policy
for
for
benches,
but.
L
H
Last
night
and
you
asked
for
a
policy
so
in
last
May
on
the
staff
report,
the
question
was
asked
of
council
what's
rewarding
on
the
plaque.
At
that
time
the
plaque
wasn't
even
ordered,
and
now
we
are
being
told
in
today's
staff
report,
the
applicant
purchased
went
ahead
and
purchased
the
plaque
with
the
wording
she
probably
decide
and
now
that's
a
reason.
We
should
Grant
this
request
because
they
she
again
did
not
follow
the
city
policy.
So.
AH
AH
Again,
I'm
not
sure
how
plaques
were
originally
placed
on
benches
when
the
first
one
came
in.
This
was
a
request
that
was
that
was
provided
in
may.
We
brought
it
to
council
for
their
consideration
with
this
we're
bringing
a
policy
forward
for
future
and
we're
giving
Council
a
chance
to
either
accept
the
waiver
or
reject
that
waiver.
Here
are
not
being
required
to
approve
this
waiver
we're
just
bringing
this
same
request
that
was
made
last
May
forward
to
council
for
consideration.
We
do
have.
H
I
Yeah
just
a
couple
of
questions,
quick
ones,
more
questions
that
have
come
to
mind
now,
primarily
for
the
City
attorney.
First
of
all,
thank
you,
Chris
Jensen,
for
having
answered
my
numerous
Forum
analysis.
Questions
in
the
past
on
on
this
topic,
I,
really
appreciate
it,
apropos
of
something
that
council
member
Moore
raised
with
respect
to
you
know,
maybe
there
being
certain
places
where
these
benches
wouldn't
be
say,
places
where
certain
residents
wouldn't
want
to
see
them.
Perhaps
they
would
expect
to
see
them
in
Memorial
Park
and
not
in
other
Parks.
I
Y
All
you
know
part
of
the
The
Limited
public
forum
analysis
is
you
know
whether
the
city
chooses
to
open
up
a
public
space
to
speech
by
by
members
of
the
public,
and
the
city
can
always
choose
to
open
or
close
a
space?
So
I
wouldn't
see
any
problem
with
specifying
where
these
plaques
would
be
allowed,
either
now
or
later
or,
and
changing
that
over
time
got.
I
It
and
consistent
with
that
would
that
require
us
to
if
we
were
to,
for
example,
close
a
specific
Park
to
these
types
of
benches,
would
we
have
to
remove
that
in
existing
bench
and
place
it
somewhere
else.
A
Any
anybody
else
want
to
speak.
I
think
you
have
a
couple
of
minutes:
yeah,
please,
okay,.
G
Thank
you
so
in
the
written
Communications
from
I
guess
it
was
February
7th.
The
existing
donation
policy
was
included
in
there
and
that
was
resolution.
17-102.
The
donation
policy
talks
about
the
authority
to
accept
and
reject
donations
and
the
evaluation
guidelines
and
the
the
city
council
May
recognize
a
donation
by
a
plaque,
a
fixed
to
the
appropriate
city,
building
facility,
structure,
equipment
or
Furnishings.
The
wording,
size,
type
and
location
of
the
plaque
should
be
determined
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
G
When
this
item
came
to
to
council,
I,
don't
know,
maybe
a
year
ago
it
would,
it
was
changed.
The
language
was
changed
to
the
city.
Council
May
recognize
a
donation
of
a
plaque
that
was
the
language
change.
That
was
in
the
in
the
staff
report,
and
it
was
a
pretty
significant
change,
because
that's
not
what
the
what
the
donation
policy
actually
says.
So
you
need
to
a
donation,
buy
of
pla
a
plaque,
and
then
they
talk
about
what
these
donations
can
be.
G
So
they
talk
about
donations
of
any
kind,
restricted
or
unrestricted,
which
are
valued
above
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
must
be
presented
to
the
city
council
and
the
manager
is
authorized
to
delegate
authority
to
accept
donations,
valued
at
or
below
ten
thousand
dollars
to
the
director
ahead
of
the
department
for
which
the
donation
is
intended.
So
this
policy
actually
was
in
place
at
the
time,
in
my
opinion
and
I
think
this
actually
should
have
been
brought
up.
G
If
it's
not,
you
know
fully
spelled
out
in
the
current
staff
report
that
the
language
was
changed
when
it
was
brought
to
city
council
and
I
was
the
person
who
spotted
it.
I
remember
spotting
it
and
it
was
the
the
issue
with
the
word
being
of
or
by
so
it
was
changed
to
of
and
I
remember,
having
this
discussion
and
with
a
council
about
it,
and
so
I
am
surprised
that
this
item
has
returned
to
us,
because
the
policy
has
been
in
place
and
it
has
been
implemented
properly
in
the
past.
G
So
I
I
I
do
appreciate
the
bench
policy
I
would
like
to
have
Parks
and
Rec
and
Public
Works
think
about
where
they
would
like
these
these
benches
to
be
what
the
design
is
going
to
be
like
in
the
city
and
I
personally,
I
I,
don't
always
want
to
be
coming
across
a
memorial
site
in
every
park.
It
changes.
You
know
my
experience
when
I'm
there
and
I
think
other
people
would
have
that
perhaps
have
that
feeling
as
well.
So
I
would
like
these
to
be
contained.
G
However,
I
do
really
like
the
idea
about
people
being
able
to
donate
benches
by
this
policy
and
and
and
simply
say
this
is
a
gift
from
someone
who
just
wanted
to
gift
a
bench
for
for
a
park,
or
perhaps
you
know
with
regards
to
the
dollar
request
to
have
benches.
Perhaps
someone
would
want
to
just
donate
one
it
didn't
have
to
be
in
memory
of
or
they
you
know.
Perhaps
they
just
wanted
to.
G
You
know
share
share
that
item.
Okay,
so
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear
and
also
with
regards
to
this
a
particular
agenda
item,
it's
difficult
for
me
to
navigate
through
these
documents,
so
I
had
to
dig
into
the
February
7th
written
Communications,
because
I
remember
seeing
all
of
these
all
of
these
documents
they
it
to
my
knowledge.
G
They
did
not
get
pulled
forward
into
this
agenda
packet
in
the
written
Communications
to
find
it
so
I
had
to
go
hunting
through
the
through
the
last
ones,
I
think
if
we're
going
to
give
a
red
line
or
a
change
to
a
policy
and
you're
referencing
in
the
previous
policy,
it
would
really
help
me
save
time
if
we
can
have
whatever
the
old
policy
is.
So
the
question
was
about
the
old
policy.
Well,
it
was
we
have
it.
It
was
17-102
resolution
17-102,
it
was
in
place.
G
It's
been
in
place,
I'm,
going
to
assume
that's
2017
by
the
way
they
they
number
these
items,
so
I
want
to
make
that
perfectly
clear.
Thank
you!
That's
it.
E
I
mean
if
clerks
can
take
a
moment
and
pull
it
up.
I,
don't
believe
we
have
a
bench.
A
Right,
okay,
so
I'd
like
to
make
my
comment.
Five
minute
comment:
I,
remember
the
May.
When
it
came
to
us
and
I.
Remember
clearly
the
council
said
to
staff.
You
know
work
on
a
bench
policy
and
bring
back
to
council
and
I
I
want
to
say
the
staff
did
a
great
job.
It's
a
simple
policy,
but
to
the
point,
if
our
staff
is
doing
good,
job,
I
really
want
to
commend
our
staff
for
doing
a
good
job
and
also
agree
on
it.
A
Even
though
we
might
say
how
come
when
I
we
never
know
about
it,
but
we
really
want
to
empower
our
staff
to
make
good
policies
and
as
to
where
do
we
put
a
bench?
Is
it
going
to
look
good
which
product
to
put
it
I,
do
think
this
is
Administration
I
think
I'll
park?
Our
public
works
with
probably
will
work
without
Park
Recreation
and
put
a
bench
where
it's
going
to
look.
A
Good
people
are
going
to
sit
on
it
and
it's
going
to
make
Park
look
better,
whether
it's
on
you
know
which
park
or
is
Memorial
Park
or
is
it
you
know,
I
want
to
trust
staff
and
I
think
they
can
implement
this
and
I
like
this
policy.
A
It's
simple
to
the
point
and
I
do
think
it's
implementable
and,
as
City
attorney
says,
it
also
protects
the
the
city
with
the
simple
you
know
statement
so
that
we
have
that
way
to
is
you
know
people
are
going
to
say
it's
Amendment
rights,
so
I
do
think
this
policy
is
good
as
for
Marilyn.
A
A
She
was
in
multiple
meetings,
unfortunately
she's,
not
here
and
maybe
there's
some
misunderstanding
or
not,
but
I'm
not
gonna
go
to
the
origin
of
it,
but
I
want
to
say
she
is
our
resident
she's,
being
patient,
she's
being
nice,
and
this
is
before
this
policy
and
it's
one
time
exception,
and
we
already
have
the
bench.
It's
not
like
we're
losing
resources.
A
I
am
inclined
to
give
her
that
one-time
waiver
and
adopt
this
policy.
So
it's
not
going
to
happen
again.
It's
not
like
another
person's
gonna
say:
oh
she
you
gave
it
to
her,
so
I
want
it
and
that,
and
that
would
have
to
come
to
council
and
I
again
I,
like
the
Simplicity
and
effectiveness
of
this
policy
and
I,
think
our
staff
did
a
good
job
and
I
think
they
can
implement
it.
A
We
really
do
not
need
to
go
into
details
and
they're
not
going
to
put
a
bench
where
people
are
going
to
trip,
or
it's
not
going
to
look
good.
So
my
inclination
is
approve
it.
If
we
don't
like
it,
we
can
always
amend
it.
If
we
want
some
special
benches,
we
can
always
add
to
it.
You
know
butterfly
bench,
a
dog
bench
for
the
for
the
park.
A
I
A
G
Okay,
so
with
regards
to
the
bench
policy,
I
appreciate
that
all
of
this
is
being
worked
out,
but
one
of
the
things
that
stands
out
is
that
it
is
it
to
have
a
commemorative
statement,
memorializing
an
individual
or
family,
and
it's
and
it's
referred
to
as
Memorial
bench
dedication
and
that's
something
that
I
didn't
exactly
pay
attention
to
First
reading
this,
but
as
I
previously
mentioned,
it
would
be
great
if
people
could
simply
donate
a
bench
because
they
want
to
donate
a
bench
and
they
don't
necessarily
want
it
to
be
a
memorial
bench.
G
They
would
simply
like
to
to
make
it
make
a
donation.
Perhaps
they
want
their
name
on
it.
Perhaps
they
want
to
be
anonymous,
but
they
would
like
to
to
do
that
and-
and
it
might
actually
open
open
the
interest
up
from
the
public
if
they
didn't
feel
like
they
needed
to
you
know
we
give
make
it
a
memorial
site.
Maybe
they
just
you
know,
want
to
beautify
a
park
and
provide
a
nice
place
for
someone
to
sit
with
their
name
on
it
or.
G
You
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
have
this.
This
altered.
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
do
it
on
the
fly
right
now,
but
is
there
a
way
that
that
it
could
be
a
donation
without
the
memorial
part
being
insisted
upon,
because
the
language
is
is
quite
strict
that
it's
in
memory
of
in
loving
memory
of
dedicated
to
thank.
A
You
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table
for
the
memorial
bench
and
if
we
yeah
this
is
the
memorial
bench
policy
right,
we
could
always
come
up
with
another
policy
so
that
that
is,
it
has
a
motion
in
a
second.
Are
we
ready
to
vote
if
we
do
please
vote
by
light?
Thank
you.
Q
G
A
Y
A
H
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
that
we
yeah
I
I
have
to
say
that
I
also
like
the
bench
donate
dedication
policy
I,
think
it's
needed.
I
just
didn't
like
that.
We
are
adopting
a
brand
new
policy
on
consent
agenda
and
when
it's
not
on
the
Adaptive
work
program,
that's
really
should
be
discouraged
and
but
since
now
now
it's
here
so
I'm
proposing
that.
H
Here's
my
motion,
okay,
that
we
should
deny
the
request
to
place
a
citizen
bot
play
plaque.
Not
only
the
donation
amount,
the
plug
is
not
bothered
by
the
city.
That
means
the
quality
of
the
plug
is
not
guaranteed
to
place
on
an
existing
park
bench
without
making
any
donation
or
comply
with
existing
policy,
and
this
is
not
her
bench.
H
It's
the
OCD
bench,
but
by
placing
the
plaque
the
public
would
unders
would
misunderstand
that,
and
I
would
like
to
revise
the
resolution
to
involve
the
parks
and
rec
department
and
commission
to
advise
on
the
location
of
the
part
of
the
oven.
So
I
am
revising
that
the
department
of
parks
and
rec
will
accept
donations
and
the
director
of
Parks
and
Rec
in
consultation
with
parks
and
rep
commission
shall
establish
a
procedure
to
apply,
and
then
they
will
I
trust
that
the
commission
will
identify
proper
locations
either
way
we
have
a
public
process.
It's
important.
H
This
is
a
really
good
policy.
We
want
the
public
to
know
and
utilize
this
donation
policy
to
donate
benches
on
in
parks
that
may
be
near
their
home
on.
But
if
this
is
a
director
level
thing,
then
there
is
no
public
process
and
public
one
you'll
be
able
to
utilize.
Only
Selected
Few
will
know
about
it.
H
So
that's
my
motion,
the
rest,
didn't
change
and
that
on
the
application.
G
I'd
like
to
second
that
I
do
have
one
clarification
that
I'd
like
to
make
of
chat
and
I
was
wondering
if,
if
an
individual
can
perhaps
stretch
the
dedicated
to
start
of
the
commemorative
statement
to
be
dedicated
to
the
residents
of
Cupertino
by
so-and-so
or
to
park
lovers
or
nature
lovers,
or
something
like
that
I'm
going
to
assume
that
it
could
be
stretched.
That
way.
G
The
reason
why
I'm
saying
that
is
that
I
think
that
we
could
encourage,
if
you're,
looking
for
more
benches
more
benches
to
be
dedicated
or
donated
to
the
city.
If
the
language
is
kind
of
opened
up
a
little
bit
and
people
knew
that
they
could
for
five
thousand
dollars
in
an
area
they
want
to
have
a
bench,
they
could
perhaps
see
if
that
could
happen.
So,
let's
see,
if
that
would
work,
is
that
possible.
Y
So
I,
don't
think
there'd
be
any
problem
with,
with
extending
the
recognition
to
somebody
that's
alive.
I
would
be
hesitant
to
to
to
to
have
it.
Have
the
ability
to
dedicate
or
recognize
a
particular
cause,
because
you
know
you
have
to
treat
the
park
lovers
and
the
park
haters
equally.
A
Do
we
have
a
do?
We
have
a
second
or
you
want
to
make
a
friendly
Amendment.
G
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
our
City
attorney
could
so
dedicated
to
park
lovers,.
Y
So
that's
that's
a
Viewpoint
right
people
who
hate
hating
Parks
is
also
a
Viewpoint
right,
and
so
that
that
that's
that's
why
I
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
problem
that
that
you
know
to
be
able
to
recognize
a
living
person
with
a
connection
to
Cupertino
or
a
family,
which
is
is
the
words
that
are
used
in
the
policy
I
I
would
I
would
advise
against
sort
of
you
know,
allowing
public
access
to
private
access
to
public
property.
Y
So
that
is
probably
that
would
probably
be
okay,
because
it
is
just
a
recognition
of
the
location
you
know,
but
I
guess
I'd
be
hesitant
to
to
sort
of
jump
to
that
conclusion
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Okay,.
A
The
park
and
have
it
approaching
11
o'clock
I
need
to
wrap
this
up.
Please
we
are
looking
for
a
Memorial
Park
Memorial
bench
I
want
to
re-emphasize.
If
we
want
to
do
other
benches,
we
can
ask
the
staff
to
come
back
with
other
things.
I
really
want
to
wrap
this
up
before
11
o'clock
else.
We
have
to
make
a
motion
to
extend
the
meeting.
H
Y
H
Y
H
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
safety
motion
with
made
by
council
member
Charles
second
by
the
council
member
Moore.
May
we
have
a
light
vote.
Please.
A
Sorry
there
was
no
friendly
Amendment,
so
this
is
to
vote
on
substitute
of
motion,
that's
published
by
council
member
chow
and
seconded
by
council
member
Moore
I'm.
G
G
So
if
you're
trying
to
donate
a
bench-
and
it's
not
a
memorial
bench,
it
would
still
fall
under
the
donation
policy
like
it
did
when
it
came
to
council.
This
item
did
when
it
came
to
council
about
a
year
ago.
Is
that
correct.
Y
Y
It's
possible
that
that
that
that
there
could
be
a
gift
of
a
bench
under
the
donation
policy,
I
think
if
there
were
a
conflict
between
the
two
policies,
this
policy
would
control
given
given
its
its
the
language
and
and
in
the
resolution
in
the
more
recent
adoption.
Okay.
A
H
So
the
current
policy
only
allow
individuals,
so
what
the
organization
who
maybe
are
helping
veterans
would
they
be
able
to
donate
a
bench
and
dedicate
it
to
a
veteran
who
is
a
Cupertino
resident.
H
A
A
So
we're
going
back
to
the
original
motion
made
by
council
member
fruen
seconded
by
me.
H
Y
A
A
I
H
So
then,
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
approve
the
dedication
policy
that
in
the
staff
recommendation
without
the.
A
Without
the
wafer
okay,
we
without
I'd.
A
Let's
move
it,
let's
vote
by
like
please.
I
C
Mayor
and
vice
mayor,
please
vote
interlites
motion
carries
with
ciao
and
more
voting
now.
Okay,.
A
A
E
We
don't
have
a
staff
report
through
the
mayor,
so
this
is
the
item
that
was
continued
from
February
7..
My
understanding
is
that
we're
trying
to
rectify
the
account
payable
for
the
month
of
November
from
last
year
staff
went
ahead
and
realized
that
there
were
receipts
that
were
coming
to
our
attention.
We
wanted
to
bring
to
councils
for
not
any
action,
but
just
to
bring
it
to
council's
consideration.
A
A
H
I
think
one
one:
member
of
the
public
pulled
the
item.
I
was
hoping
to
hear
from
the.
L
Good
evening,
council,
members
and
staff
for
the
audience
that's
left
those
present
in
those
on
Zoom
the
accounts
payable
is
the
city's
checkbook
register.
It
lists
all
the
checks
the
city
has
issued
for
each
week.
Roughly
This
Record
goes
way
back
in
the
city's
history.
Why
do
I
care
and
keep
bringing
this
up
for
transparency?
It's
how
the
city
spends
our
tax
dollars?
It's,
because
if
the
real
day-to-day
numbers
aren't
right
and
it's
hard
to
have
confidence
in
the
big
picture
called
the
budget.
L
Also,
when
this
the
council
or
the
city
manager
approves
a
contract
amount,
the
invoice
payments
to
those
contractors
appear
in
accounts
payable,
the
public
can
see
if
amounts
are
exceeded.
I
would
like
to
understand
several
questions.
What
causes
an
accounts
payable
to
be
missed,
like
this?
What's
being
done
to
prevent
this
from
happening
in
the
future
in
the
process
of
reviewing
accounts
payables,
there
are
at
least
four
reports
missing:
April
13,
2018,
June,
15,
2018,
July,
3rd
2020
and
November
14
2022.
L
A
I'm,
a
little
close
close
to
public
comment.
I
do
believe
these
answers
are
being
answered
on
the
on
the
stat
reports
and
I've.
Read
them
yes,.
E
You're
absolutely
right:
Mary
I
was
going
to
say
the
happy
reiterated
in
the
staff
report.
That's
correct.
A
So
well,
we're
going
to
council
discussion
go
ahead.
G
E
For
that
I
mean
I
can
kind
of
go
over
high
level.
Of
course
you
need
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
It
happened
during
the
week
of
Thanksgiving,
so
the
receipts
were
kept
came
to
us
and
we
realized
that
when
we
sent
it
to
Otto
for
consideration,
there
was
one
week
missing.
So
we
quickly
realized
that
we
were
one
a
week
behind
and
brought
it
to
council.
G
Also
through
the
mayor,
there
I
actually
also
pulled
pulled
this
item
and
for
this
reason
in
in
attachment,
B
accounts
payable,
page
14
of
21.
there's
a
payment
to
Boucher
Law
PC
dated
November
4th
2022
for
finance
manager,
parentheses
2022,
close
parentheses.
I
would
like
to
see
the
invoice
for
this
and
the
contract
for
this
service
made
public
redacting.
What
is
needed
for
some
background?
The
city
contracted
with
Boucher
in
2022
for
recruitment,
Services,
mayor.
G
Thank
you
pardon
this
is
we
we
made
a
payment
for
finance
manager
and
we
hired
Boucher
for
Recruitment
and
we
paid
them
for
recruitment
I'm
trying
to
understand.
Why
are
we
having
this
payment
there
for
finance
manager.
Y
E
Foreign,
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
the
contract
and
the
receipt.
I
think
this
is
not
the
place
to
discuss
why
Chris
bruchet's
Services
is
retaining
a
finance
manager
and
that's
a
different
policy.
That
is
not
the
content
of
the
agenda
item
today,
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
you
the
receipt.
A
Y
P
Y
Would
you
would
I.
A
Y
We
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
vote.
H
Oh,
that's
right.
Oh
just
a
minute,
I
have
one
more
question
about.
A
H
E
Through
the
mayor's
show,
I
think
we
are
doing
that.
We're
bringing
it
to
council
for
you
to
ratify
the
mistake.
A
So
I
like
to
make
one
comment:
our
staff
found
a
mistake
and
brought
it
to
us
and
I
think
we
should
credit
the
staff
for
finding
the
mistake
and
I
do
believe
they
learn
from
their
mistakes
and
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
happen
again.
A
If
we
say
staff,
don't
bring
any
mistakes
to
us,
we're
gonna,
you
know
put
that
on
you,
I
I,
just
think
that
our
staff
is
honest
and
they
made
a
mistake.
They
bring
it
to
us
for
to
rectified
it
and
they
will
pay
attention
to
that.
Okay
and-
and
we
learn
from
our
mistakes,
so
I
would
like.
H
To
definitely
and
that's
why
I
recognize
that
I
thank
the
staff
for
finding
and
picking
up
this
and
putting
this
updated
so
quickly,
but
as
we
know
that
we
just
adopted
Council
procedure
and
we
learn
from
our
mistake,
but
then
people
change
people
get
busy.
So
when
we
find
out
oh
I
missed
it
this
time,
usually
a
normal
process
will
be
okay.
H
What
can
I
do
to
so
that
I
don't
miss
it
next
time,
and
then
there
may
be
a
you
can
establish
a
procedure
like
if
I
keep
forgetting
my
key
I
will
keep
I
will
keep
putting
it
in
the
same
location
and
so
that
next
time
is
less
likely
to
happen.
So
so
I'm
just
one
wondering,
are
they?
Are
we
doing
something
to
learn
from
the
mistake
to
so
that
we
have
a
more
solid
procedure?
H
H
This
is
was
not
answered,
so
we
are
not
doing
anything
that
is
being
answered
right.
It
is
no,
it
seems
so.
The
answer
is,
we
are
not
changing
anything.
No,
don't
work,
okay,
City
Manor!
Could
you
repeat
that
answer
again
sure,
so
we
are
bringing
it
to
council's
attention
every
time.
There
is
a
mistake
to
ratify.
H
Thank
you
so
I
need
a
motion
and
a
second.
If
do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve.
H
I'll
move
that
we
adopt
resolution
number
23-023
ratifying
accounts
payable
for
the
period
ending
November
the
13th
2022.
may
I
have
a
second,
please
I'll.
Second,
it
as
we
move
the
seconded,
maybe
vote
by
light.
I
have
a
substitute
motion
that
we
do
not
approve.
This
accounts
payable
until
the
whole
of
council
has
received
their
information
that
I
requested.
H
The
motion
fails
with
child
more
voting.
Yes,
so
we
have
the
origin
of
motion.
Can
we
vote
on
it
now?
H
H
We
I.
Could
you
please
review
vote
I
had
to
change
the
councilmember
Moore
accidentally
voted
incorrectly
I'm.
Sorry,
councilmember
Moore
accidentally
voted
in
the
wrong
Manner
and
so
I
restarted
the
vote.
So
if
you
could,
if
you
don't
mind.