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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - April 13, 2023 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the April 13, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting.
(Part 2 of 2)
A
So
we
are
going
to
resume
the
meeting
to
move
to
item
number
five
consider
submitting
a
letter
in
support
of
or
otherwise
regarding
assembly
Constitutional,
Amendment
ACA
number,
five
expressing
the
intent
of
the
legislature
to
amend
the
California
Constitution
to
protect
marriage,
equal
equality,
so
that
recommended
action
is
to
consider
submitting
a
letter
in
support
of
aca5
and
presenters.
City
managed
City
attorney,
Chris
Jensen.
B
Thank
you
mayor
members
of
the
council.
I
just
have
a
brief
oral
presentation,
as
you
recall,
on
our
April
4th
meeting
assembly
member
low
presented
on
this
proposed
Constitutional
Amendment,
just
to
refresh
your
memory.
This.
This
amendment
is
proposed
because
in
November,
2008
California
voters
adopted
Proposition
8,
which
amended
the
California
Constitution
to
state
that
marriage
is
only
between
a
man
and
a
woman.
Only
marriages
between
a
man
and
woman
are
valid
in
California.
B
That
provision
was
invalidated
by
a
series
of
Court
decisions
that
culminated
in
the
U.S
Supreme
Court's
ruling
in
a
burgerfeld
V
Hodges,
but
it
still
remains
in
the
text
of
the
California
Constitution,
the
Supreme
Court's
recent
ruling
in
Dobbs,
which
overturned
the
Court's
previous
rulings,
recognizing
the
right
to
an
abortion
and
Roe
v,
Wade
and
kcv
Planned
Parenthood
and
in
particular
the
current
concurring
opinion
that
case
by
Justice
Thomas
cast
some
doubt
or
at
least
creates
some
risk
that
there
will
be
continued
recognition
of
marriage
equality
rights
at
the
federal
level.
B
If
Council
elects
to
take
position
in
support
of
aca5
the
letter
included,
your
agenda
packet
will
be
finalized
for
the
mayor's
signature
and
distributed
as
appropriate
to
our
legislatures
and
with
that
I'll
I'm
available
for
any
questions
that
Council
may
have.
Okay.
Okay,
thank.
A
D
D
Part
of
this
wish
is
for
everyone
to
be
able
to
make
that
lasting
commitment
of
marriage
to
each
other.
This
agenda
item
is
especially
close
to
my
heart.
Just
a
few
days
ago,
my
daughter
was
married
to
her
wife
at
City
Hall
in
San.
Francisco
I
was
incredibly
pleased
to
witness
the
commitment
that
they
made
to
each
other
as
a
fulfillment
of
the
love
and
caring
that
they
have
for
each
other
I
urge
you
today
to
confirm
that
we
here
in
Cupertino
support
marriage
equality
and
wish
to
protect
it.
Thank
you.
C
E
Okay,
hello,
all
right,
well,
I,
didn't
want
to
say
anything
but
I
have
to
okay.
The
world
is
going
crazy.
If
you
guys
would
watch
Fox
News,
you
might
know
what's
going
on
and
it
is
truthful.
Okay,
all
kinds
of
things
are
happening
in
our
schools:
sex
this
that
this
that
and
whatever
and
I,
am
totally
against
this
marriage
thing
between
two
men
and
two
women.
Whatever
way
you
want
to
look
at
it
I'm
against
it,
that's
not
what
I
feel
is
right.
E
I
also
feel
that
now
you're
going
to
really
really
be
upset
with
me,
but
you're
going
to
have
to
listen.
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
to
do
something
before
these
people
are
born.
This
is
a
burst
effect.
They
could
even
get
disability
from
the
government.
Okay,
because
of
all
the
hardships
that
these
gay
people
have
to
go
through.
Okay,
I
really
feel
that
that's
what's
happening.
We
need
our
scientists
to
find
out
what's
wrong
and
I've
been
studying.
E
We
can't
allow
this
okay,
I'm
a
Christian
and
I'm
discriminated
against
yes,
but
it's
wrong
what
they're
doing
okay
and
even-
and
so,
if
you
look
at
what's
going
on
in
all
these
cities,
with
these
people,
they're
doing
all
kinds
of
crazy
things,
all
right,
lap,
dancing
in
kindergarten
or
first
grade
or
whatever
it
is.
E
You've
got
to
watch
and
see
what's
going
on,
if
you,
if
you
refuse
to
watch
Fox
News
you're,
only
going
to
get
part
of
the
picture,
that's
up
to
you
all
right,
I
know
that
this
California
is
Democrat,
but
we
have
Republicans.
Here
too,
we
do
and
I
remain
here.
This
is
my
city.
This
is
where
I
am,
but
we
have
to
change.
Gavin
Newton
wants
to
run
for
president
well,
I'm
totally
against
it
no
way.
E
Well,
what
he's
done
in
San
Francisco
in
LA-
and
you
know
what
I'll
tell
you
something
Cupertino
is
a
very
safe
City.
Why
is
that?
Because
of
you,
people
because
of
the
sheriffs
here,
but
how
long
is
that
going
to
last
how
long
I'd
like
to
know
you
know
if
this
keeps
up
forget
it
any
place
you
live
is
going
to
be
a
disaster.
You
know
I'm
starting
to
think.
Maybe
we
should
all
carry
guns,
I'm
serious.
This
is
really
serious
stuff.
E
So
you
guys
better
start
looking
into
this
and
I
want
to
tell
you
it
if,
if
they
could
figure
out
what's
wrong
before
the
child
is
even
conceived
in
any
way
and
also
before
we
we've
changed
the
sex
of
our
children
and
not
even
letting
the
parents
know
that
they're
going
to
do
that
in
the
schools
and
everything
you
know.
This
is
wrong.
So
please
please
decide
against
this,
but
I
know
you
won't,
but
I
gave
it
a
shot.
Thank
you.
F
F
We
had
a
close
relationship
and
I
have
other
friends
and
family
whom
I
love,
dearly,
I,
really
don't
care
about
their
sexual
orientation
and
I
will
say
after
Decades
of
government
experience,
whether
or
not
you
love
someone
or
don't
love
them,
or
what
kind
of
relationship
you're
in
has
no
place
in
your
eligibility
for
government
work
and
government
involvement,
Community
involvement,
housing
jobs,
that
kind
of
thing
no
place.
There
is
a
place,
however,
for
love
and
compassion
and
kindness,
and
that's
what
we
need
more
of
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
C
G
So
I
guess,
if
everybody's
going
to
learn
a
lot
about
me
tonight,
I
am
a
retired
physical,
therapist
I
worked
for
42
years
in
many
different
settings:
hospitals,
homes,
you
name
it
and
and
one
of
the
first
settings
that
I
worked
at
oh
and
I'm
a
37
year
old,
I've
lived
in
Cupertino
for
37
years.
However,
for
the
first
I
think,
20
years
of
my
career,
I
worked
at
UC,
San,
Francisco
and
I
was
a
research
assistant
and
then,
but
in
San
Francisco
hospital.
G
At
the
time
it
seems
like
all
the
men
I
was
single
at
that
time.
That
was
a
few
decades
ago
many
decades
ago,
and
it
seemed
like
most
of
the
men
were
gay
and
for
a
single
girl.
They
were
nice
and
they
were
handsome,
but
they
had
absolutely
no
interest
in
me.
However,
through
working
with
them,
they
were
the
nicest
nicest
people
really
good
at
their
what
they
did
as
a
research
persons,
doctors
whatever,
but
back
in
the
day
they
San
Francisco,
was
a
Mecca
and
sort
of
like
in
the
medical
field.
G
It
was
the
mecca
for
people
who
were
gay
and
anyhow,
a
lot
of
them
became
my
friends,
but
no
romantic
interest
from
them
anyway.
So,
but
they
have
these
stories
of
how
they
had
been
shunned
by
their
families
because
of
their
orientation,
and
it
was
so
so
sad
and
they
were
disowned
so
I'm
just
so
happy
that
we
are
in
a
better
age
and
time
now,
where
I
can
see
two
gay
men
or
two
gay
women
have
their
children.
G
You
know
and
be
a
gay
man
and
gave
a
couple
and
they'll
have
children
and
one
will
call
one
Papa
and
the
other
one
a
daddy.
You
know
so
they
each
had
separate
names,
but
all
the
love,
the
nurturing
and
just
wonderful.
So
my
conclusion
is
in
this
short
time
on
Earth
that
we
have
it's
love
that
matters
not.
H
G
C
So
what
is
that
is
all
we
have
for
speakers
in
community
health,
so
I
will
move
to
zoom.
We
have
two
hands
raised
from
Connie
Cunningham
and
lyanna.
Crabtree
welcome,
Connie.
C
I
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members
and
everyone
in
attendance-
I'm,
sorry
I
can't
be
there
tonight
to
be
with
you,
because
I
think
this
is
so
important
that
I
am
an
Antioch
with
my
mom,
so
I
am
on.
Excuse
me,
virtual,
but
I
did
want
to
express
my
support
for
a
letter
in
support
of
the
assembly
constitutional
amendment.
Number
five
I
think
it's
absolutely
critical
to
support
marriage,
equality
for
California,
lgbtq
plus
community.
I
J
Good
evening,
Council
and
staff
I
had
not
planned
this
item.
I
I
really
thought
that
it
was
it's
an
important
item,
but
I
didn't
think
there,
but
it
would
be
controversial.
I,
don't
know
why
I
didn't
consider
that
I'm
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
the
council,
writing
a
letter
to
support
ac5
to
protect
parents
for
people
who
love
each
other,
who
want
to
be
married
to
each
other.
J
I
I,
just
I
I
find
it
very
concerning
that
people
hold
the
idea
that
there's
a
right
and
a
wrong
way
to
love
and
that
that
it
is
incompetent
on
each
of
us
to
love
one
another
and
to
be
very
open
to
allowing
others
to
love
who
they
used
and
there
just
isn't
a
right
or
a
wrong
way
between
consensus
and
I.
Thank
you
for
considering
this
item
like
I
strongly
hope
that
you've
all
accept
it
and
and
ideas
about
changing
People
before
they're
born
Civil
Society.
In
my
opinion,
thank.
A
A
M
So
yes,
okay,
so
I'm
in
support
of
of
us
writing.
Sending
this
letter
and
I
think
I
probably
have
mentioned
this
in
probably
when
I
was
campaigning,
I
don't
know,
but
I
do
have
three
brothers
who
are
all
military
veterans
and
one
is
gay
and
married
and
he
served
as
a
special
forces
officer
under
don't
ask
don't
tell
which
was
finally
repealed
and
after
he
left
the
service,
he
was
in
the
military
for
about
26
years.
He
was
finally
married.
So
I
am
strongly
in
support
of
this.
Thank
you.
K
K
I'm
honored
that
we
get
to
offer
that
support
to
all
of
our
families,
especially
as
somebody
who
is
in
a
same-sex
marriage
I,
remember
very
poignantly
very
strongly
how
I
felt
after
Prop
8
passed
and
how
I
felt
when
Perry
got
rid
of
it,
and
indeed
all
of
the
line
of
cases
that
allowed
my
marriage
to
be
Perry.
K
Windsor
Oprah
fell
the
line
of
cases
before
it
going
back
all
the
way
to
the
the
most
appropriately
named
court
case
in
the
history
of
Supreme,
Court,
jurors,
Prudence,
loving
versus
Virginia
I
will
also
say,
I
supported
as
somebody
who
is
a
practicing
Christian
and
who
got
married
in
a
church
and
whose
husband
serves
actively
on
the
Vestry
of
said
Parish.
Thank
you.
L
It's
great
that
there
are
Christian
churches,
that's
inclusive
and
support
on
gay
couples.
I
think
two
adults
who
are
committed
to
each
other
will
love
and
cherish
each
other
for
their
whole
life.
It's
a
beautiful
thing
that
we
should
all
support
and
I'm
as
concerned
considered
about
the
transition
of
children
surgically
before
they
even
know.
The
impact
I
am
concerned
about
the
people.
Schools,
transitioning,
social
transitioning,
children,
not
informing
parents-
this,
but
that's
a
totally
different
issue
from
the
gay
marriage.
I
think
legislatively
changing
this.
L
To
allow
marriage
of
any
two
individuals
is
the
right
way
to
go.
Supreme
Court
is
supposed
to
interpret
law,
it
shouldn't
be
making
law
by
interpreting
meaning
into
different
language.
I
hope
that
we
continue
this
to
make
law
in
Congress
to
actually
legalize
get
marriage.
Then
this
California
is
is
a
start
and
I
hope
to
see
more
of
this
in
other
states
and
I
I
understand
that
they
even
Beyond
marriage.
L
A
I
like
to
send
all
the
comments
on
my
fellow
council
members,
I
just
want
to
say
in
Cupertino,
we
walk
the
streets
and
we
make
friends
because
of
character
because
of
kindness
because
of
integrity,
and
we
look,
sexual
orientation
has
not
no
place
for
it.
This
is
a
great
community,
so
I
like
to
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
Can
we
advice?
Please.
N
I
too,
wanted
to
chime
in
and
say
I
wholeheartedly
approve
submitting
the
letter
in
support
of
ac5
I
cannot
imagine
not
doing
this,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
strengthen
and
protect
marriage
equality
in
any
which
way
we
can,
and
we
should
consider
consider
ourselves
fortunate
that
we
have
this
opportunity
today.
A
O
If
I
can
make
a
suggestion,
I'm
so,
given
that
we're
right
around
dinner
time
can
I
ask
if
you
would
like
to
switch
the
order
a
bit
and
maybe
take
the
constant
calendar
item
before
we
take
a
dinner
recess
and
come
back
to
item
six
Okay.
So.
A
Okay,
so
since
we
have
audience
that
would
like
to
us
to
move
forward
with
item
number
six,
let's
go
ahead,
we
have
a
late
dinner,
then
okay,
yeah
okay.
So
so
we
are
going
into
item
number
six.
Consider
the
fiscal
year,
2023
2024
10
year
budget
forecast
information,
update,
presentation,
may
I
have
a
staff
presentation.
Please
sure.
O
So
Mary,
when
staff
is
setting
up
the
presentation
just
wanted
to
thank
Council
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
an
early
update
of
our
budget
to
the
council
and
the
members
of
the
public
as
the
city
is
facing
a
financial
challenge
going
forward.
We're
presenting
the
information
as
they
are
made
available
to
staff
and
the
intent
of
today's
presentation
is
to
just
to
give
information
to
council
so
that,
when
we're
walking
into
the
budget
season
in
May
during
the
study
session,
that
Council
will
have
more
information
available
to
make
sound
decision.
O
So,
as
the
team
is
setting
up,
I
also
want
to
kind
of
provide
an
overview
of
the
budget
process
going
forward.
As
I
mentioned.
This
is
a
informational
item
for
Council.
To
consider
no
direction
is
seeking
from
the
council
will
take
the
any
feedback
from
Council
and
also
members
of
the
public
back
to
the
drawing
board.
O
The
budget
team
and
also
staff
has
been
diligently
working
on
a
proposed
budget
that
will
be
released
and
printed
out
during
the
first
week
of
May
by
then
we
will
be
meeting
with
council
members
individually
to
go
over
any
questions
that
you
may
have
on
the
printed
budget,
and
then
we
have
scheduled
a
study
session
to
discuss
options
to
get
to
a
balanced
budget
on
May
17th.
The
idea
is
to
receive
council's
direction
from
the
May
17
study
session
in
attempt
to
have
an
adopt
a
budget
by
June.
O
The
budget
team
will
go
through
that
prices,
one
more
time
during
their
presentation.
I
do
want
to
just
emphasize
we're
here
to
present
the
information
that
is
available
to
staff.
At
this
time
there
might
be
opportunities
for
you
to
want
to
ask
more
information,
and
unfortunately,
we
can
only
share
what
we
have
at
the
time
so
without
further
Ado.
Thank
you.
Thomas
Leon,
the
budget
manager
also
Christina
Alfaro,
the
administrative
Services
director
for
putting
together
this
presentation
and
please
go
for
it.
P
Thank
you,
city
manager,
Wu
I,
think
we
just
need
the
video
team's
assistance
in
getting
our
I,
see
it
popping
up
right
now.
Thank
you
so
much
good
evening,
Council,
honorable
mayor
I,
just
want
to
go
over
briefly,
so
we're
here
to
present
the
10-year
budget
forecast
for
fiscal
year.
23
24-
and
this
is
an
informational
update,
a
theme
that
you'll
hear
throughout
our
presentation
is
that
this
is
a
forecast.
This
is
our
best
guess,
based
on
the
information
we
have
today.
More
than
likely
we
will
be
wrong.
P
There
will
be
other
things
that
will
come
into
play
that
will
cause
us
to
make
that
update.
However,
rest
assured,
we
will
be
before
Council
for
any
updates
that
we
need
to
make
in
ensuring
we're
sharing
that
not
only
with
the
council
but
with
the
community
and
our
employees
as
well.
So
with
that,
let's
jump
into
the
agenda
we
have
before
you
for
this
evening.
It
is
very
forecast
driven
we're
going
to
go
over
the
key
forecast,
the
cree
drivers
in
the
forecast
we're
going
to
go
over.
P
What
are
the
assumptions
that
have
been
placed
into
this
forecast?
Then
we'll
go
over
at
a
high
level
level.
What
the
forecast
looks
like
for
the
general
fund,
we'll
go
over
some
potential
budget
balancing
strategies
and
potential
service
level
impacts
as
well.
Jumping
right
into
key
drivers.
I
do
just
want
to
talk
for
a
moment,
and
we
already
talked
about
this
is
going
to
be
our
best
guest
at
this
point,
but
I
also
want
to
reiterate.
P
This
is
something
different
for
Cupertino
to
have
a
budget
reduction
I've
been
here
for
10
years
for
the
10
years
that
I've
been
here,
we
haven't
had
to
have
this
conversation.
We
thought
we
were
as
part
of
covid.
We
made
plans
and
things
luckily
didn't
turn
out
that
way
for
the
city,
and
we
were
able
to
weather
that
without
having
to
make
budget
reductions.
That
said,
going
forward,
as
we
bring
budgets
forward,
they're
going
to
look
very
different,
they're
going
to
be
less
asks,
but
there
will
be
asks.
P
We
still
have
a
city
to
run
a
city
to
operate.
We
just
need
to
be
more
prudent
with
our
choices
about
what
we
bring
forward
and
what
council
approves
for
recommendations
that
staff
brings
forward
with
that.
We
want
to
start
off
and
talk
about
the
California
Department
of
tax
and
fee
administration's
audit,
so
the
cdtfa
you
will
hear
This
Acronym
various
times
throughout
the
presentation.
P
This
year
we
forecast
a
Major
Impact
to
our
sales
tax
revenue
in
our
budget
due
to
the
cdtfa
audit,
and
an
audit
for
the
cdtfa
means
that
they
review
the
proper
allocation
of
sales,
tax
revenue,
sales,
tax
revenue,
and
we
will
spend
some
time
in
this
presentation
discussing
its
potential
impacts
and
we
say
potential
you'll,
hear
us
say
this
several
times
in
the
presentation.
We
have
not
received
a
final
determination
letter.
P
The
forecast
you're
going
to
see
before
you
this
evening
is
staff's
best
guest
at
a
worst
case
scenario,
and
that's
what
we'll
be
presenting
this
evening.
In
addition,
you're
going
to
hear
about
other
potential
drivers,
so
Staffing,
salary
and
benefits
is
one
of
our
biggest
expenditure
categories.
That's
really
going
to
cover
our
staffing
and
potential
labor
negotiations.
We
also
see
that
we
budget
a
couple
of
recessions.
P
We
likely
won't
hit
those
right
and
they'll
write
on
the
head
on
the
days
that
are
going
to
be
in
there
or
the
year
that
those
will
hit,
but
we
do
have
those
programmed
in
and
then
some
post-covet
impacts
really
related
to
the
recovery
of
our
hotel
tax.
That's
been
coming
in
stronger
than
anticipated.
P
Lastly,
I
also
want
to
say:
sales
tax
is
a
very
important
part
of
our
budget.
Up
until
this
forecast,
it
was
our
top
tax
producing
Revenue.
It's
still
going
to
be
likely
in
our
top
three
tax
producing
revenues,
and
that's
really
due
to
all
the
businesses,
both
large
and
small,
in
the
city,
along
with
our
residents
and
visitors
that
go
to
those
businesses,
and
so
this
Revenue
source
is
going
to
continue
to
be
an
important
part
of
sustaining
this
community.
P
The
graphic
you
have
before
you
provides
a
timeline
of
when
staff
has
received
information
from
the
cdtfa.
We
were
originally
made
aware
of
the
audit
in
December
of
2021
in
May
of
2022.
We
received
an
additional
letter
updating
the
city
on
the
years.
The
audit
was
covering
in
March,
2023
CDT,
advised
the
city
of
their
decision
to
reallocate
revenue
with
dollar
impacts
to
follow
in
the
next
four
to
six
months.
P
The
next
slide
is
really
meant
to
show
a
simplified
version
of
how
the
sales
tax
process
works.
This
is
a
complex
process,
but
in
a
simplified
form
a
business
collects
sales
tax
from
you
know
their
their
their
customers.
They
then
take
that
sales
tax
and
they
send
it
to
there's
a
report
cdtfa.
Have
they
send
that
off
to
the
state?
The
state
then
looks
at
that
report
and
determines
where
to
distribute
the
revenue
and
then
that's
how
the
city
receives
the
revenue.
We
do
not
receive
much
detail
because
of
confidentiality
reasons.
P
We
do
know
the
taxpayer
the
category
that
they're
in
and
the
amount
being
allocated
to
the
city
next,
a
little
bit
more
on
the
cdtfa
audit.
Again,
this
is
a
review
of
allocation
of
sales
tax
to
the
local
jurisdiction
and
due
to
confidentiality
reasons
again,
we
don't
have
detailed
reportings,
but
staff
is
estimating
that
there'd
be
a
73
reduction
in
ongoing
sales
tax.
This
is
what
we
consider
a
worst
case
scenario.
P
This
is
an
update
from
the
final
budget
this
year
when
we
provided
some
different
numbers
and
again
that's
because
budgets
are
estimates
so,
as
we
know,
more
information
we're
coming
back,
we're
making
those
adjustments
and
Reporting
them
out
to
council
and
to
the
public.
The
other
thing
is:
there
is
a
potential
that
the
city
may
have
to
pay
back
revenues
already
received,
but
we
will
not
know
that
until
we
receive
the
final
determination
letter
from
the
cdtfa.
P
So
the
next
slide
covers
County
pools.
The
city
receives
sales
tax
revenue
in
two
categories.
One
is
the
direct
allocation
of
sales
tax
to
the
city,
and
the
second
part
of
it
is
the
county
pool
share,
so
the
county
pool
amount
is
calculated
every
quarter
it
and
it's
made
up
of
use
tax
and
any
sales
tax
that
cannot
be
easily
tied
to
a
specific
jurisdiction.
A
use
tax
is
primarily
a
tax
imposed
for
tangible
personal
property
that
are
purchased
from
out
of
state.
P
Any
Revenue
that
meets
this
criteria
is
first
applied
to
the
county
of
use
and
that
creates
the
county
pool.
Then
each
agency,
within
the
county,
receives
a
proportional
share
based
on
taxes
allocated
to
that
jurisdiction
against
all
other
jurisdictions
in
the
county.
An
example
is
listed
here
as
the
third
bullet.
If
a
city
generated
eight
percent
of
the
County's
total
taxable
sales,
it
would
then
receive
eight
percent
of
the
county
pool
with
that.
I
will
turn
the
presentation
over
to
budget
manager
Liang
to
take
you
through
details
of
the
forecast.
Q
It's
important
to
note
that
this
forecast
is
not
set
in
stone,
but
rather
it
is
a
planning
tool
that
helps
us
anticipate
the
long-term
effects
of
budget
decisions.
We
constantly
update
the
forecast,
as
new
information
is
known
or
as
assumptions
change
with.
That
said,
let's
dive
into
the
assumptions
that
inform
our
forecast.
Q
Fortunately,
a
fiscal
structure
is
strong,
with
facility
debt
expected
to
be
paid
off
by
fiscal
year,
2029-2030,
which
will
reduce
expenditures
by
2.7
million
when
paid
off.
In
addition,
the
city
has
proactively
funded
pension
and
retiree
Health
costs
using
section
115
trusts,
as
the
opeb
trust
is
fully
funded.
Retiree
Health,
also
known
as
other
post-employment
benefits
or
opeb
expenses,
will
be
funded
by
the
trust.
As
a
result,
the
city
will
not
need
to
allocate
additional
funds
from
the
general
fund
to
maintain
these
benefits.
Q
It's
also
important
to
note
that
the
forecast
does
not
include
any
development
projects
that
have
not
been
approved
and
permitted
and,
lastly,
the
forecasts
assume
a
recession
every
four
years
through
all
revenues.
This
assumption
is
based
on
historical
business
Cycles,
which
typically
last
between
four
to
five
years
on
average.
Q
Although
the
timing
of
recessions
is
uncertain,
these
assumptions
allow
the
city
to
forecast
revenues
conservatively
based
on
the
city's
prior
experience
with
recessions.
Revenues
are
projected
to
remain
flat
during
these
periods.
Given
the
substantial
uncertainty
inherent
in
forecasting,
we
aim
to
be
conservative
in
our
Revenue
projections.
Q
Q
Q
Now
I'll
discuss
the
revenue
assumptions,
I'll
focus
on
sales,
tax
property
tax
and
transient
occupancy
tax,
also
known
as
hotel
tax,
as
they
have
the
most
uncertainty
sales
tax
is
projected
to
increase
by
1.6
percent
annually.
On
average,
the
city
uses
conservative
assumptions
for
growth
due
to
the
concentration
risk
of
the
city's
sales
tax
revenues.
Q
Property
tax
is
projected
to
increase
moderately
with
an
average
annual
growth
rate
of
3.1
percent.
The
forecast
does
not
assume
any
new
development
projects
impacting
our
property
tax
revenues
transient
occupancy
tax,
which
is
levied
on
short-term
stays,
experience
a
sharp
decline
in
fiscal
year
2021
and
fiscal
year,
2022
due
to
pandemic
related
restrictions
on
travel.
However,
with
the
resumption
of
business
travel
in
the
past
year,
the
tax
has
been
showing
signs
of
recovery
in
fiscal
year.
2023-24
Transit
document
C
tax
is
projected
to
reach
7.5
million
and
then
increase
moderately
afterwards.
Q
Now
I'll
move
on
to
the
expenditure
assumptions.
These
assumptions
are
standard
escalators
that
have
been
used
in
previous
years.
In
a
few
slides,
we
will
go
over
the
Deep
cuts
to
materials,
Contract
Services,
special
projects,
contingencies
and
transfers
that
are
proposed
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
Q
Materials
are
projected
to
increase
by
the
Consumer
Price
Index
or
CPI.
Contract
Services
are
also
projected
to
increase
by
CPI
annually,
except
for
the
law
enforcement
contract,
which
increases
by
CPI
plus
two
percent
put
in
terms
of
the
current
contract
with
the
Santa
Clara
County
Sheriff's
Office
special
projects,
which
are
one-time
operational
projects,
will
cut
to
half
a
million
dollars
which
will
impact
the
ability
to
fund
future
work
program
and
other
one-time
items.
Q
Q
It's
important
to
emphasize
that
these
projections
of
estimates
based
on
the
information
we
have
today.
They
are
merely
a
snapshot
in
time
and
we
will
update
the
forecast
as
the
situation
evolves.
The
actual
impact
of
the
cdtfa's
review
won't
be
known
until
they
make
an
official
determination
with
respect
to
the
tax
allocations.
Q
By
providing
regular
updates
based
on
the
information
available,
we
hope
to
provide
our
stakeholders
with
a
clearer
understanding
of
the
potential
impact
on
the
city
and
the
measures
we
are
taking
to
address
the
situation.
Although
we
recognize
that
there
are
many
unknowns
at
this
time,
we
remain
committed
to
being
transparent
and
sharing
information
as
it
becomes
available.
Q
Q
Q
A
structural
deficit
is
a
situation
where
ongoing
expenditures
exceed
ongoing
revenues,
resulting
in
a
long-term
imbalance
that
cannot
be
resolved
through
temporary
measures.
Only,
however,
despite
these
challenges,
cupertino's
healthy
reserves
put
us
put
us
in
a
better
position
to
weather
these
difficult
times
to
address
the
structural
deficit
and
give
the
city
time
to
develop
and
Implement
a
sustainable
long-term
plan.
We
have
developed
a
strategy
strategy
that
uses
general
fund
reserves.
This
includes
using
53
million
in
unassigned
fund
balance,
10
million
in
the
capital
projects
reserve
and
a
portion
of
a
section
115
pension
Trust.
Q
By
using
these
reserves,
we
aim
to
provide
a
soft
landing
and
avoid
more
severe
measures
that
could
have
a
significant
impact
on
essential
services.
This
will
give
us
the
time
we
need
to
develop
and
Implement
a
sustainable
long-term
plan
to
address
a
deficit,
and
we
are
committed
to
the
city's
Financial
stability.
Q
Q
Q
We
have
developed
a
plan
to
gradually
reduce
our
staffing
through
the
elimination
of
vacant
positions
over
the
next
10
years.
Vacant
positions
are
rules
that
are
currently
unfilled
due
to
either
a
resignation,
a
retirement
or
never
being
filled.
In
the
first
place,
we
anticipate
reducing
our
staffing
by
15
ftes
through
vacancies
in
the
next
fiscal
year.
Q
As
you
can
see
by
the
red
line,
we
understand
that
reducing
Staffing
will
be
challenging
and
may
lead
to
the
elimination
of
some
Services.
However,
we're
committed
to
balancing
our
budget
responsibly
while
continuing
to
provide
essential
services,
this
gradual
approach
to
reducing
Staffing,
will
allow
us
to
achieve
a
goal
without
causing
significant
disruptions
to
city
services.
We
appreciate
your
patience
and
understanding
as
we
navigate
this
challenging
financial
situation.
Q
Q
However,
as
you
can
see
on
this
Slide,
the
depletion
of
our
unassigned
fund
balance
over
the
next
10
years
signals
a
need
for
us
to
be
more
strategic
in
our
service
delivery
and
to
carefully
consider
where
we
can
allocate
resources
and
where
we
cannot
to
address
Revenue
shortfalls.
We
anticipate
using
an
unassigned
fund
balance
using
a
capital
projects
reserve
and
using
part
of
a
section
115
pension
Trust.
Q
We
also
see
that
the
capital
project
funds
are
expected
to
have
a
fund
balance
of
13.4
million
at
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
This
forecast
does
not
anticipate
using
funds
from
the
capital
project
funds
to
address
general
fund
deficits,
but
it
also
doesn't
include
any
transfers
from
the
general
fund
to
the
capital
project
funds.
Q
P
Thank
you,
Thomas
we'll
go
over
balancing
strategies
that
have
existed
in
the
city's
budget
for
several
years.
These
were
last
discussed
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
at
the
onset
of
the
covid
pandemic,
when
impacts
to
the
city
were
unknown.
In
addition,
we've
added
some
more
strategies
to
the
ones
that
are
in
the
budget
book.
Please
note
that,
although
many
strategies
are
included,
staff
is
currently
only
recommending
those
discussed
with
you
on
the
forecast
slides.
P
We
are
presenting
all
options
to
council
and
the
public
so
that
they
can
have
a
full
menu
of
options
that
may
be
available
for
future
use,
starting
out
with
some
of
our
existing
reserves
or
funds.
We
have
our
115
pension
trust
and
our
115
opeb
or
other
post-employment
benefits
or
retiree
trust,
as
budget
manager
Liang
mentioned.
These
are
currently
part
of
our
balancing
strategy.
In
addition,
the
use
of
the
capital
reserve
in
the
general
fund
is
also
part
of
our
balancing
strategy.
P
However,
this
strategy
does
currently
leave
the
economic
uncertainty
Reserve
intact,
and
it
does
that
because
the
city
will
still
need
a
rainy
day
fund.
Unexpected
things
will
occur
and
depleting
this
fund
completely
down.
Would
actually
be
a
risk
to
the
city,
so
we've
left
it
intact,
even
though
we're
still
structurally
deficit
as
of
year
10
using
up
the
other
balances,
as
we've
mentioned
next
we're
looking
at
expenditure
reduction
strategies
and
a
lot
of
these
are
currently
being
utilized.
The
first
is
no
new
positions.
P
The
proposed
budget
will
not
contain
a
request
for
any
new
positions
to
be
added.
They
can
see
control.
This
is
being
used,
but
in
a
slightly
different
way,
as
opposed
to
leaving
positions
unfilled
as
they
become
vacant.
We
will
also
be
eliminating
those
positions
so
not
only
leaving
them
vacant
but
eliminating
them
from
our
books
as
well.
The
next
three
options
would
require
a
negotiation
with
our
bargaining
unit,
but
again,
they're
just
provided
here
as
examples
of
things
the
city
could
pursue.
P
One
would
be
asking
employees
to
take
on
a
portion
of
the
employer's
share
of
Calpers
cost.
The
other
would
be
deferring
or
eliminating
negotiated
increases,
and,
finally,
the
potential
for
furloughs
I
do
want
to
note.
For
each
of
these
strategies,
the
column
to
the
far
right
does
give
an
estimate
of
what
these
could
potentially
save.
P
Lastly,
we
have
a
reduction
in
force,
and
this
varies
to
the
strategy
we're
currently
recommending
for
vacant
positions
and
that
a
reduction
in
force
would
actually
be
layoffs.
We
would
take
a
filled
position,
lay
off
that
person
to
achieve
that
vacancy
and
eliminate
that
position
continuing
on
to
expenditure
reduction
strategies,
I
believe
at
least
some
of
these
on
here
are
new
and
haven't
been
listed
before
the
first
two
listed.
There
are
currently
as
part
we're
using
these
as
part
of
our
strategy.
We
are
reducing
our
budget
and
capital
outlays
and
special
projects.
P
These
are
those
one-time
projects
that
Thomas
mentioned
earlier
in
the
presentation,
there's
also
a
reduction
in
contingencies,
bringing
that
down
in
half
deferring
or
canceling
capital
projects.
This
could
potentially
be
part
of
the
strategy.
This
is
something
as
Thomas
mentioned.
Our
Capital
Improvement
plan
team,
we'll
be
presenting
as
part
of
the
proposed
budget
council,
could
also
consider
a
reduction
of
community
funding
and
Historical
Society
funding
again
that
wouldn't
come
to
council
until
we
got
to
the
proposed
budget
or
the
reduction
of
Festival
fee
waivers
again.
P
That
would
could
be
discussed
as
part
of
the
proposed
budget
before
I
jump
into
Revenue
generation
strategies.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
when
it
comes
to
budgeting,
if
you're
able
to
reduce
an
expense,
that's
a
sure
thing.
You
know
that
expenses
off
your
books
when
it
comes
to
revenue
generating
strategies,
there's
a
little
give
and
take
if
we're
raising
prices
on
things,
it
may
mean
that
folks
may
not
want
to.
You
know,
come
to
our
event
or
to
our
class
here
in
the
city
if
they
can
find
a
cheaper
option.
P
But
with
that
in
mind,
the
city
is
in
the
midst
of
a
fee
study
and
we'd
be
looking
at
trying
to
come
back
with
full
cost
recovery
and
potential
increase
fees
for
the
city.
So
that's
something
that's
currently
in
place
that
we
just
kicked
off
the
other.
It
really
is
the
sale
of
city-owned
properties
or
Assets
Now.
This
would
provide
one-time
revenue
and,
as
we've
mentioned
several
times,
we
do
have
a
structural
deficit.
P
Additional
Revenue
generation
strategies
include
potential
increases
to
taxes.
Now
these
the
earliest,
these
could
be
put
on
the
ballot
is
2024
and
then
the
if
they
pass
the
revenue
related
to
these
would
lag
receipt
by
the
City
by
about
six
months
to
a
year.
In
addition,
this
is
currently
reviewing
Revenue
tax
measures
is
a
council
work
program,
item
and
staff
is
currently
working
on
bringing
these
options
to
council
within
the
next
four
to
six
months.
P
Finally,
we're
going
to
be
going
into
potential
service
impacts,
and
next
steps
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate.
We
understand
that
there
is
concern
about
this
presentation
having
no
service
level
impacts,
and
we
assure
you
that
staff
is
diligently
working
to
identify
the
reductions
along
with
the
service
level
impacts.
However,
the
earliest
those
will
be
available
as
part
of
the
fiscal
year
24
proposed
budget
and
those
will
be
presented
for
city
council
consideration
as
part
of
the
May
17th,
but
proposed
budget
study
session.
P
But
we
did
want
to
provide
some
examples
of
what
council
might
expect
when
that
budget
is
printed
and
when
we
come
and
make
the
presentation,
it
could
be
things
that
look
like
fewer
festivals
and
events,
fewer
Innovation
and
Technology
initiatives.
The
potential
to
have
a
decrease
to
our
appointment,
condition,
index
and
potentially
reduce
grounds,
reduce
maintenance
for
facilities
and
grounds
in
the
city.
P
P
before
I
conclude.
The
presentation
I
want
to
reiterate
that
this
evening,
for
council's
consideration
is
to
accept
the
presentation.
Actual
decisions
on
the
budget
will
be
made
as
part
of
both
the
proposed
and
final
budget
hearings,
and
we
thank
you
and
we
look
forward
to
any
questions
you
might
have.
O
Thank
you,
director,
Alfaro
and
Council.
If
I
could
just
make
a
few
more
wrap
up
comments,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
want
to
thank
the
budget
team
for
reinforcing
this
solid
foundation
that
we've
had
set
in
the
past
to
set
us
on
a
healthier
path
to
the
challenge
ahead.
This
will
be
a
big
challenge
that
the
city
hasn't
yet
to
to
face
in
the
past.
O
It
will
be
a
collaborative
effort,
engaging
Council
staff
as
well
as
the
members
of
the
public
I
think
we
have
a
figured
out
a
solution
potentially
for
year
one.
However,
this
is
going
to
be
a
10-year
plan.
We
will
be
actively
engaging
the
stakeholders
in
areas
that
we
could
bring
the
city
budget
into
less
of
a
structural
deficit,
so
this
is
only
the
beginning
and
I
look
forward
to
the
process
to
engage
with
the
members
of
the
public
on
this
Challenge
and
to
come
out
and
look
for
the
silver
lining
of
this
problem
ahead.
A
Okay,
so
that
concludes
the
staff
presentation
I'm,
going
to
bring
it
back
to
the
council
for
question.
So
Council
have
five
minutes
for
questioning.
Then
we
can
go
to
public
comments.
Any
council
members
wants
to
light
up
the
light
and.
N
You
thank
you
Mary.
Thank
you.
Staff
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
this
is
just
a
10-year
budget
forecast.
It's
it's
a
planning
document,
it's
not
the
budget,
so
I
I
looked
at
all
the
slides
that
you
presented
now
and
in
our
packets
the
expenditure
reduction
strategies,
the
revenue
enhancing
strategies.
N
O
The
mayor,
that's
absolutely
correct
and
vice
mayor
Mohan.
So
this
is
the
information
that
we
have
available
to
present
to
council
is
a
director
Alvaro
mentioned
that
will
have
the
proposed
budget
printed
first
week
of
May
and
then
come
back
to
Council
on
May
17th.
It's
a
study
session
to
further
explore.
Then
Council
will
have
a
chance
to
adopt
to
adopt
a
final
budget
in
June.
N
So
it's
it's
pretty
brave
of
you
to
even
do
a
10-year
budget
forecast
because
things
change
so
rapidly
from
year
to
year,
so
I
don't
think.
Last
year
we
predicted
that
we
would
have
the
problems
that
we
have
today.
So
I
just
want
to
caution
everyone
that
this
is
not
the
budget.
N
This
is
just
a
sort
of
look
into
finances
for
the
next
fiscal
year
and
the
years
Beyond
The
Years
Beyond
have
to
be
taken
with
a
grain
of
salt
because
we
don't
really
know
what's
going
to
happen,
but
it's
still
a
good
good
thing
to
look
at
and
and
some
of
the
things
it
points
out
is
you
know,
we've
always
been
reliant
on
sales
tax,
for
example,
and
this
shows
that
we
need
to
have
a
multi-pronged
effort
to
increase
revenues.
N
You
know
sales
tax
is
a
huge
component
of
our
revenues,
but
we
also
have
some
other
sources
of
revenues,
property,
tax
and
transient
occupancy
tanks
and
so
on,
and
so
overall,
when
the
city
does
the
right
things,
not
just
increase
retail
so
that
sales
tax
grows,
but
but
all
the
various
things,
the
housing,
the
development.
N
All
these
generate
revenues,
maybe
not
as
much
as
sales
tax
did,
but
but
there
is
revenue,
but
there
are
revenues
coming
in
when
we
do
some
of
these
things
that
move
the
city
forward
and
I
wanted
everyone
to
sort
of
keep
that
in
mind.
It's
not
just
about
retail
or
it's
not
just
about
sales,
but
about
this
all
these
other
sources
of
revenue
that
we
can
and
should
tap
into
for
the
future.
N
Yeah
I'll
stop
for
now
and
then
and
just
sort
of
make
a
point
that
it's
only
on
May
1st
when
the
proposed
budget
comes
to
us
that
we
can
get
to
look
at
the
details.
Correct.
A
L
Hi,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
very
rough
strategy
and
I
think
we're.
Cupertino
has
been
lucky
that
we
did
not
have
to
cut
any
I
think
into
2020
I.
Remember
in
2020
the
year,
Palo
also
had
to
cut
their
budget
by
20
and
the
Campbell
that
year
also
had
to
cut
a
lot.
Many
other
cities
had
to
do.
Reduction
in
20,
2008
Cupertino
has
been
blessed
and
but
I
think.
We
really
need
to
look.
Compare
I
really
like
the
chart
that
we
have
in.
L
In
usual,
the
Staffing
level
I
asked
for
the
10-year
expenditure
and
the
revenue
chart
and
I'm
told
that
on
the
city
Open
golf
site,
but
I
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
get
it
so
next
time,
I
hope
the
presentation
includes
a
10-year
backwards.
So
we
know
from
the
history
because
I
believe
our
revenue
is
a
lot
more
than
before.
I
remember
in
2014
the
revenue
was
like
75
million
dollars,
and
then
they
become
120
million
dollars.
So
we
are
not
really
down
a
lot
compared
with
what
we
had
just
a
few
years
ago.
L
P
We're
estimating
28
production
in
sales
tax
this
year.
L
P
We
think
that
now
is
an
appropriate
time
for
Council
to
consider
the
use
of
those
funds,
as
we
really
try
to
figure
out
what
the
future
looks
like.
What
are
what
our
new
vision
of
our
city
looks
like
with
this
reduced
Revenue.
So.
L
P
Tomorrow
is
there
if
you
can
bring
up,
maybe
that
slide
and
then
Thomas
can
walk
you
through
through
it.
O
And
while
Thomas
brings
us
up
I
just
want
to
through
the
mayor
just
to
remind
that
this
is
our
best
estimate
at
the
time,
given
the
information
that
we
have
available.
So
hopefully,
then,
that
point
came
across.
O
L
P
So
this
slide
shows
what
we'll
be
reducing
our
expenditures
by
about
17.
So
that's
going
to
result
in
a
6.1
million
dollar
deficit
that
we
will
be
recommending
is
funded
by
an
assigned
fund
balance.
L
Also
well
reduced
by
17,
but
the
additional
11
will
be
funded
by
a
site,
balance,
okay,
correct
and
then
I'm
expecting
I've
watched
the
Palo
Alto
when
they
did
it.
They
presented,
they
started
in
February,
have
a
list
of
menu
options
for
each
option.
The
dollar
amount
for
each
reduction,
and
then
this
counselor
actually
went
through
that
exercise
multiple
times,
including
multiple
public
hearing.
Before
finally
find
public
meet
me
for
a
final
decision.
It
was
made
so
I
wonder
what
kind
of
process
we're
envision.
P
We
would
Envision
all
of
those
potential
service.
The
reductions
in
expenditures
in
any
surface
level,
reduction
impacts
to
be
included
in
the
proposed
budget
document
likely
is
part
of
the
budget
message
and
in
each
of
the
department
write-ups
to
give
a
clear
indication
of
what's
being
reduced
in
each
budget
unit
and
then
presenting
those
to
the
city
council
on
the
17th
and
then
we'll
have
additional
budget
meeting
so
we'll
take
feedback
from
that
proposed
budget.
P
Come
back
to
try
to
put
together
the
final
adopted
budget,
we're
also
in
the
process
of
trying
to
put
together
a
community
survey.
The
budget
team
is
also
looking
for
various
opportunities
where
we
can
meet
the
public
in
person
and
have
conversations
with
them
in
order
to
try
to
bring
Council
back
at
least
some
data
point
on
where
the
community,
how
the
community
feels
about
some
of
these
strategies.
But
again,
all
of
that
will
happen
as
part
of
the
proposed
budget.
L
P
L
K
Ahead
cheers
I'll
just
start
off
with
a
few
questions.
You
had
a
slide
labeled
historical
and
forecasted
Staffing.
Does
that
slide
reference
not
just
actual
filled
headcount,
but
also
vacant
positions.
K
All
right
do
we
know
how
many
vacancies
there
are
at
present.
K
My
second
is
is
just
to
reaffirm
a
statement
that
I
thought
I
heard.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
clear.
This
is
your
worst
case
scenario
forecast
correct.
Yes,.
K
K
Okay
and
the
window
for
that
was
somewhere
in
the
next
four
to
six
months.
Okay,
there
was
also
a
reference
to
the
exclusion
of
new
development
projects
from
the
forecast
and
then
I
think
it
was
subsequently
couched
in
terms
of
whether
that
project
was
approved
or
not
so
I'll
ask
the
elephant
about
the
elephant
in
the
room
is
Valco
included
in
that
forecast.
Q
K
It
is
not
okay,
all
right,
that's
really
good
to
know.
Is
there
a
reason
or
maybe
I
should.
H
K
O
Sooner
mayor
I'll
take
that
question.
So
that's
a
great
suggestion
so
I
think
going
forward
in
a
proposed
budget.
When
we
come
back
for
study
session,
we
can
definitely
provide
modeling
of
the
potential
entitled
development
and
also
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
development
developers
to
see
if
there's
any
engaged
enthusiasm
in
pursuing
the
development
in
the
next
several
years.
So
we
can
definitely
build
that
into
the
model.
Great.
K
M
All
right,
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
so,
with
regards
to
the
reduction
that
the
forecast
has
included.
Is
that
just
the
73
percent
for
this
coming
year,
fiscal
year,
23
24
or
are?
Did
it
anticipate
any
for
lack
of
a
better
word?
Any
clawback
by
cdtfa
of
past
Revenue
we've
received.
Q
M
Okay,
do
you
have
any
indication
of
whether
or
not
that
will
happen?
Have
you
looked
at
other
cities
and
and
seen
if
they,
if
they,
if
cdtfa,
was
looking
back.
M
Okay,
so
if
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
real
estate,
development
I
think
that
that's
important
for
our
Revenue
strategies
to
get
a
really
clear
picture
on
whether
or
not
you're,
adding
retail
or
transient
occupancy
tax
places,
if
you're,
adding
hotels
or
or
the
residential,
because
most
of
what
I've
seen
is
showing
that
retail
is
a
net
positive
for
the
city
Revenue,
whereas
the
residential
is
it
is
not
bringing
in
revenue
for
the
city
and
I
think
most
people
can
can
follow
along
with
that
and
then
also
if
you
could
simply
be
able
to
show
for
the
public
how
to
make
a
calculation
with
regards
to
an
increased
assessed
value,
we
saw
it
with
the
Apple
project
earlier,
so
you
have
the
increase
in
the
assessed
value
and
I
believe
it's
you
take
take
the
new
value
times,
point
zero.
M
You
know
one
percent
and
then
times
.07
and
that's
what
the
city
would
get
back.
That's
so
it's
not
.011
or
anything
like
that.
Just
take
take
the
new
assessed
value.
0.01
goes
to
the
county.
Seven
percent
back
to
the
city
of
Cupertino,
okay
and
I.
Think
that
that's
important,
especially
when
people
look
at
you,
know
large
projects
like
like
apple,
so
the
the
headquarters
I'm
referring
to
so
the
portion
which
is
goes
to
Cupertino,
is
was
last
assessed
around
680
million
dollars.
Take
that
value
times.
M
0.01
then
take
that
times,
.07,
that's
what
we
get
back
here
and
then
that
could
also
be
done
for
public
storage
and
other
other
projects.
So
I
think
that
would
be
very
beneficial
because
I
think
I
think
sometimes
people
look
at
that
total
value
of
the
of
a
project
and
especially
in
terms
of
the
Apple
headquarters,
and
go
wow,
that's
in
the
billions
of
dollars.
But
what
do
you
get
in
property
tax?
M
Also
if
we
could
have
it
just
another
reminder:
I
know
you've,
given
us
the
pie
charts
before
so
that
we
can
see
at
that
42
million
dollars
that
you're
looking
at
versus
what
the
property
tax
is,
and
so
the
people
know
what
the
you
know.
It's
some
tough
news,
but
so
people
know
what
the
before
and
after
is
that
we're
looking
at
in
and
what
what
that
impact
is.
M
I
think
that
would
be
helpful,
I'd
sent
in
a
number
of
things
just
to
so
that
we
can
all
kind
of
get
a
lay
of
the
land
and,
while
you're
looking
for
things
to
cut-
and
that
was,
we
had
just
looked
at
new
work
program
items.
So
some
of
those.
Maybe
we
want
to
reconsider
and
I,
wanted
to
understand
what
the
work
product
work,
program,
items
which
are
still
underway
and
what
the
cost
is
to
get
those
completed.
M
Whether
or
do
we
want
to
reconsider
some
of
those
and
then
again
the
same
kind
of
process
with
the
CIP
items,
those
that
are
on
that
are
underway
if
they
are
passed
to
the
design,
phase
and
they're
ready
to
go
into
construction
or
or,
if
they're
not
and
again
evaluate
for
what
we
want
to
do
and
I
I
believe
Public,
Works
and
Susan
Michael
they'd
be
great
on
that
I
saw
that
you
had
special
projects
mentioned
I'm,
not
quite
sure
what
that
suggestion
actually
is,
and
so
that,
for
me
it's
been
kind
of
an
ongoing
question
for
to
me.
M
Ideally,
they
would
have
ended
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
and
each
department
would
have
said
you
know
we
really
want
this
one.
So
we
didn't
get
time.
We
didn't
have
time,
so
we
want
to
bring
it
forward,
but
it
feels
right
now,
like
we've
collected
them
all
and
we
have
some
status,
but
there
may
be
a
number
of
older
projects
which
could
be
eliminated
and
then
I.
M
Overall,
my
preference
would
be
that
the
special
projects
move
into
if
they're
more
maintenance
that
they
go
into
the
maintenance
budget
portion
and
they
don't
hang
out
as
special
projects,
because
it's
a
it's
an
accounting
issue
and
I
had
a
number
of
waivers
facility
fee
waivers
facility
waivers
so
there's
a
lot
of
facilities
that
are
being
used
and
we
have
lease
agreements
for
them
a
number
of
different
organizations.
M
A
Thank
you,
councilman
Memorial,
so
I'll
ask
I,
have
a
couple
questions
so
to
follow
up
with
council
member
Freeman's
question
that
I
know.
The
rice
is
not
in
the
estimate
how
about
Westport
the
beta
Brothers
Kenyan
Crossing
Marina
Food,
the
one
apple
we
just
approved.
Are
they
in
the
estimate
or
not
at
all,.
A
Okay,
okay,
so
because
it
looks
pretty
I
didn't
know
which
ones
are
including
which
ones
are
not
the
second
one
is
the
10-year
forecast
looks
pretty
flat
because
it
is
just
what
we
know
right
now.
So
I
think
is.
The
purpose
is
for
us
to
I
appreciate
all
the
information,
the
possible
Revenue,
you
know
increase
measures
and
the
possible
reductions,
but
the
ultimate
actually
Target
is
for
us
to
work
on
our
2425
budget
right.
O
Alluded
to
earlier,
this
is
a
forecast.
This
is
a
10-year
forecast
and
my
advice
around
the
budgeting
is
normally
the
city.
Does
a
five-year
forecast,
so
we've
gone
above
and
beyond
to
provide
a
10-year
forecast
knowing
this
is
a
challenge
that
the
city
has
yet
to
face
in
the
past,
so
we're
concentrating
of
focusing
and
prioritizing
our
effort
on
getting
through
the
fiscal
year.
23
to
24.,
however,
also
deeply
committed
to
explore
strategies
to
carry
us
back
to
out
of
the
structural
deficit
for
our
budget,
and
that's
why
we
proposed
a
a
10-year
forecast.
O
A
Thank
you,
I
have
one
more
question
is
when
you
are
estimating
the
that
the
10-year
forecast,
I,
don't
see,
I
think
there
are
some
other
areas,
money,
that's
being
spent
that
we
can
maybe
look
at
it.
For
example,
what
I
can
think
of
is
our
wheat
abatement
program
we're
paying
for
the
owners
who
passed
it
but
we're
paying
for
the
county?
P
So
I
think
there
may
be
what
we
were
trying
to
do
to
close
such
a
huge
deficit
is
we're
trying
to
take
big
bites
out
of
the
Apple,
so
we're
probably
bad
sense
of
worth,
but
a
big
bite
out
of
the
deficit
right
so
that
those
other
items
now
that
we've
taken
the
big
pieces
out
right,
we
look
at
the
Staffing
the
contracts,
the
materials
that
now
to
balance
that
other
piece
we're
still
running
at
about
a
six
million
dollar
deficit.
P
A
So
what
what
I'm
asking
is,
for
example,
you
put
Historical
Society
in
it?
That's
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
budget,
so
just
just
go
check
into
a
little
bit
more
detail.
What
else
that
we're
spending
that
could
be
put
on
the
table?
I'm,
not
saying
that
we're
gonna
do
it,
but
you
know
give
us
more
options.
I
really
appreciate
it.
A
P
Materials
20,
so
that's
part
of
the
Department's
really
digging
in
and
giving
us
here's
what
we
think
we
can
cut
here's
what
we
think
we
can
manage
and
again
those
will
be
brought
back
for
council's
consideration
as
part
of
the
proposed
budget.
Okay,.
A
F
Hello,
this
is
a
more
formal
presentation:
I'm
Jeff,
Paulson
Cupertino
resident
I'm
speaking
as
an
individual,
with
no
professional
association
with
this
issue
at
all
I'm
here
to
oppose
the
revenue
generation
strategy
of
selling
the
Blackberry
Farm
Golf
Course,
and
here's.
Why
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
government
with
Parks
and
Recreation
open
space
planning,
and
we
have
a
real
gem
here
in
the
Blackberry
Farm
McClellan
Ranch
open
space
along
Stevens
Creek.
F
F
F
So
that
being
said,
I
don't
like
to
just
be
against
things.
So
here's
what
I
am
for
I
had
a
long
Zoom
meeting
yesterday
with
a
very
bright
local,
Stanford
grad.
Who
has
a
lot
of
ideas
about
the
golf
course
ideas
that
even
I,
wouldn't
even
thought
of
and
and
what
they
include
are
things
that
I
would
name
each
of
you
individually
as
an
asset
but
I'll
just
say
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
could
look
at
in
the
future.
F
F
We
could
also
improve
pollinators
and
species
diversity
and
also
we
could
create
a
place
that
would
be
more
celebratory
of
our
Vibrant
Community,
the
more
inclusive
and
would
really
be
a
feather
in
our
cap
for
decades
to
come
now,
I'm
not
opposed
to
leasing
the
property
or
renting
it.
That's
something
that
Stanford
does
and
they
get
their
money
in
their
land
back
eventually.
But
please,
let's
take
this
off
the
table
permanently
tonight,
because
it
will
do
long-term,
irreparable
damage
to
the
city.
If
we
don't
do
so.
Thank
you.
C
E
Okay,
I
sent
out
a
letter
to
you
guys.
So
you
know
what
this
is
all
about,
that
I'm
going
to
say
this
budget
forecast
is
an
outrage
and
should
not
be
approved
from
the
beginning
of
the
deal
between
Apple
computer
and
the
city.
Cupertino
Which
authorized
a
percentage
of
sales
tax
revenue
each
year
allocated
back
to
Apple
computer
other
cities
that
are
also
involved
with
sending
half
or
more
of
the
local
sales
tax
back
to
the
companies
in
the
name
of
economic
development
is
wrong.
E
Sales
taxes
should
only
go
to
and
should
only
go
to
and
should
have
gone
to,
the
cities.
City
cities,
City
Cupertino,
in
this
case
State
of
California
and
Santa
Clara
County.
If
apple
and
other
corporations
want
to
contribute
money
to
the
city
or
Cupertino,
they
should
do
it
separately
and
voluntarily.
E
I
would
like
to
suggest
the
solution
to
the
problem.
It
seems
that
other
cities
feel
it's
unfair,
that
the
city
of
Cupertino
is
receiving
way
too
much
money
from
their
agreement
with
Apple
computer.
So
why
not?
In
all
fairness,
pull
the
money.
The
revenue
together
in
one
Collective
tax
fund
and
divide
it
up
evenly
with
the
cities,
the
state
of
California
and
Santa
Clara,
County,
Apple,
computer
and
other
companies
that
also
have
agreed
like
this
would
not
participate
in
any
way
with
sales
tax
money
review
Revenue.
E
This
would
eliminate
the
issue
stated
in
complaints
of
The
Haves
and
have-nots
having
a
finance
company
hired
to
divide
the
monies
instead
of
expensive
lawyers
would
save
a
great
deal
of
money.
Companies
such
as
Apple
computer,
eBay,
Home,
Depot,
Best,
Buy,
Nike,
Inc,
Will,
William,
Sonoma,
Inc,
Walmart,
corporation
men
and
more
companies
with
agreements
requiring
portions
of
tax
funds.
Divide
directed
to
them
have
benefited
greatly
in
the
past.
This
may
not.
This
may
have
not
been
legally
correct.
Someone
should
check
on
that.
E
One
I
do
not
propose
that
these
companies
should
be
required
to
pay
back
the
funds
they
acquired
in
the
past,
but
going
forward.
They
should
not
be
allowed
to
continue
their
agreements
between
the
parties.
The
Taking
of
this
tax
revenue
from
City
Santa
Clara
county
in
the
state
who
need
who
need
this
money
is
wrong.
E
With
all
these
layoffs
that
are
all
over
the
place
and
not
filling
open
positions
once
people
leave
will
harm
and
hurt
the
cities,
many
cities,
my
city,
many
City
projects-
will
be
cut
in
order
to
fill
the
in
order
to
fill
the
revenue.
The
city
has
lost
I'm
very
much
against
this.
These
I
am
very
much
against
these
possibilities
and,
as
the
city
council
city
council
Cupertino
to
take
the
lead
in
stopping
what
is
taking
place.
Please
review
my
comments
and
take
them
to
heart
and
provide
them
to
the
city's
staff
members.
E
You
got
to
work
harder,
honey.
You
really
do.
Okay,
all
you
guys
work
harder
file,
a
lawsuit,
this
tax
revenue,
people,
whoever
they
are.
This
should
have
been
caught.
Who
knows
what
it
shouldn't
have
been
happening?
Why
should
we
suffer
for
this
get
a
lawyer
here?
He
is
over
here.
Get
this
lawyer
over
here
who
file
a
lawsuit.
R
Now,
good
evening,
mayor
way
vice
mayor,
Mohan,
city,
council,
members
and
staff,
as
you
know,
I
like
to
live
within
my
means
and
I'm
asking
you
guys
to
live
within
your
means,
don't
sell
assets,
it
doesn't
solve
the
problem,
reduce
spending.
R
Some
ideas
I
want
to
thank
Rhoda
Frye.
A
lot
of
these
are
her
ideas
and
I
feel
the
same
way:
review
and
re-prioritize
all
the
CIP
and
work
plan.
Items
I
would
think
you'd
do
that
before
you
do
the
budget
review
contracts
to
see
which
ones
can
be
paused
or
removed,
lower
spending
thresholds
before
requiring
Council
approval,
Force
more
of
them
to
come
to
council.
R
That's
okay,
but
let's
see
the
ins
and
outs
to
see
if
they
are
paid
for
Blackberry,
Farm
pool
and
picnic
the
same
thing:
McClellan,
Ranch
and
Orchard.
Those
are
kind
of
three
different
parts
make
sure
expenditures
are
assigned
to
the
proper
budget
items.
I've
asked
three
times
why
a
hundred
and
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
check
to
the
City
of
Sunnyvale
was
labeled
under
Jennifer
general
fund
rather
than
transportation,
and
nobody
will
answer
it's
a
budget
question
eliminate
fee
waivers
produce,
mailings
to
of
Park
and
Rec
catalogs
in
The
Cooperative
scene.
R
R
May
1st,
with
a
lot
of
work
from
all
the
Departments
and
I
appreciate
that
proposed
budget
study,
study
session,
May,
17th
I,
know
you've
got
it,
allows
people
time
to
look
at
this
huge
massive
document,
but
between
that
May,
17th
and
June,
you
need
a
couple
more
meetings.
You
need
to
be
able
to
provide
the
study
session
input
then
modify
it
and
see
what
you've
got
and
allow
Council
to
to
comment
on
it
and
also
the
public.
We
don't
want
to
be
able
to
comment
on
the
final
adopted
budget.
It's
done
no
opportunity.
R
C
G
Thank
you.
So
tonight
we
were
given
a
worst
case
scenario
in
sales
revenue
drop.
G
Hopefully,
as
further
details
come
out,
the
decrease
won't
be
as
much
as
the
worst
case
scenario
that
the
city
staff
rightfully
presented
to
help
us
prepare
for
a
worse
case
scenario,
we're
in
this
together
as
as
a
city,
whereas
whether
it's
staff
or
residents
we're
in
this
together.
Okay,
let's
stay
calm.
G
Great
suggestions
are
ready
tonight
from
Council
and
staff
like,
for
instance,
property
tax
to
Apple,
okay,
the
other,
but
I
would
like,
however,
for
us
to
all
get
all
the
details
of
the
decrease
in
Revenue
versus
a
revenue
increasing
strategies
before
we
cut
CIP
projects
and
the
work
plan
that
we
have
spent
a
long
time
preparing
for
and
presenting
and
campaigning
to,
the
city's
Council
and
staff.
G
There's
been
years
and
years
of
work
done
to
bring
out
the
work
plan
this
and
the
CIP
so
before
we
just
cavalierly
start
chopping
things
off
from
programs
that
have
been
taken
years
and
a
lot
of
input
and
process
from
people.
Let's
take
a
month
to
just
think
clearly
for
a
win-win
positive
solution.
Before
we
take
a
burn
and
slash
strategy,
please
take
them
a
month
to
be
creative,
positive
and
work
collaboratively.
G
Get
all
the
details.
First,
before
you
burn
in
slash,
I'd
like
you
to
like
I,
said,
work
out,
feasible,
collaborative
Solutions,
with
multi-pronged
Revenue,
increasing
strategies
to
increase
revenues
and
reduce
spending,
and,
of
course
we
will
ultimately
help
keep
Public,
Safety
and
so
and
in
this
worst
case
scenario
Revenue
that
could
be
coming
from
velco
and
Westport
and
all
sorts
of
different
things.
You
know
they
didn't
have
a
chance
to
input
that
yet
so
further
details
to
follow
a
month.
Thank
you.
C
D
Hi
again,
everybody
I'm
speaking
today
again
on
behalf
of
myself
as
a
resident,
I've
reviewed
all
the
material
that
was
in
the
written
communication
that
was
provided
by
the
staff
and
everything
like
that
and
there's
one
question
that
I
keep
asking
myself,
and
that
is
why
was
this
not
put
on
the
council
agenda
for
a
meeting
last
year
after
numerous
notifications
over
a
year
that
the
thought
it
was
going
on,
the
previous
Council
had
the
ability
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
to
talk
about
it
and
kind
of
get
like
what
we're
getting
right
now.
D
D
Somehow,
the
kind
words
of
of
Jim
Throop
in
June
are
were
being
and
are
being
considered.
As
everything
was
fine
then,
which
I
think
it
was
just
an
exit.
D
You
know
him
being
nice,
so
I've
heard
an
awful
lot
over
the
last
couple
months
about
how
detailed
the
monthly
audit
reports
and
how
the
audit
committee
and
this
and
that
and
but
it
didn't
catch
any
of
this
last
year,
or
at
least
was
not
talked
about
and
then
I
see
in
a
lot
of
these
meetings,
where
we're
talking
endlessly
hours
over
the
smallest
sums
of
money.
D
When
we
have
this
huge
thing
going
on
so
I'm
kind
of
baffled,
sometimes
about
processing
Library.
Why
we're
doing
all
that
so
I
want
to
Echo
a
couple
things
that
Louise
just
said,
which
is
being
strategic,
is
going
to
be
really
important,
going
forward
on
this
I'm
kind
of
sad
that
the
council
has
to
deal
with
this
huge
budget
crisis
and
the
whole
housing
element
which
is
just
feels
like
it
was
just
kind
of
dumped
on
them
within
a
couple
months
of
them
taking
office.
D
So
whatever
we
do,
I
I
ask
you
to
look
at
things
strategically.
Don't
worry
about
the
you
know
the
thousand
dollars
here
the
200
there,
but
spend
your
time
looking
holistically
at
the
whole
picture
and
I.
Think
then,
we'll
be
able
to
work
together
to
come
out
on
the
other
side
of
this,
whatever
ends
up
being
because
again,
we
kind
of
don't
know
exactly
what
it's
going
to
be.
So
thank
you
for
considering
my
comments.
Good
night.
S
Well,
I
think
I
can
actually
say
good
evening
mayor
way
and
council
members
I
want
to
Echo
a
lot
of
what
Jennifer
was
talking
about
I.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
staff
for
this
budget
report,
which
did
help
clarify
the
rumors
surrounding
the
cdtfa,
odd
Hut.
The
sales
tax
collection
process
is
indeed
a
nightmare
with
all
of
the
changes
in
online
buying
and
the
different
interpretations
by
state
tax
authorities.
S
I
was
disappointed
in
the
actual
budget
balancing
strategies,
particularly
the
lack
of
emphasis
on
increasing
property
tax
revenue,
the
forecast
assumptions
State.
No
additional
development
projects
are
included,
but
that's
not
realistic,
given
that
the
council
has
just
approved
a
new
Apple
building
and
the
88
town
homes
on
the
Westport
side
are
well
under
construction.
S
S
S
T
Question
City
Council:
what
are
you
doing
to
retain
Cupertino
as
the
point
of
sale
for
Apple's
online
transactions
in
California
question
for
staff?
What
is
the
furthest
back,
the
cdtfa
might
go.
Can
you
please
show
the
worst
case
scenario
showing
Payback
it
also
if
Cupertino
has
to
pay
back
the
Apple
sales
tax
money
to
the
state
will
Apple
reimburse
the
city
is
35
share.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
anticipating
the
city
clerk
Kirsten.
So
this
is
a
a
slide
showing
the
historical
per
capita
tax.
Oh
no,
it
went
away
there.
T
It
is
okay
income
as
compared
with
our
neighbors
and
I,
have
to
wonder
where'd
the
money
go
if
you're
wondering
where
Cupertino
is
it's
the
Top
Line,
the
other
cities
are
San
Jose
Los,
Altos,
Mountain,
View,
Saratoga
Sunnyvale,
our
neighbors.
They
they
they're
doing.
Let's
be
smart
accountability,
transparency,
frequency
of
monitoring
and
please
don't
sell
our
assets
next
slide,
please.
T
So
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
long
story
here,
so
we've
been
getting
mixed
messages
from
staff
and
I
also
want
to
Echo
Jennifer's
concerned.
Why
wasn't
this
brought
forward
more
frequently
by
staff?
I
would
say
by
staff.
Not
by
Council
so
City,
first
Staff
first
learned
about
this
in
December
2021.
T
We
didn't
learn
about
it
until
May
of
2022,
we
were
given
three
some
three
scenarios.
Those
were
were
they
level
May
and
I'm,
going
to
call
them
The,
Good,
the
Bad
and
the
Ugly,
and
then
in
June,
which
is
the
Lower
Blue
chart.
We
have,
it
looks
like
things
are
going
to
be.
T
Okay,
then,
in
August,
there's
a
potential
salary
impact
mentioned
in
October,
our
city
hall
subcommittee,
Kitty,
Moore
and
John
Willey
was
concerned
about
the
potential
short
and
long-term
funding
impacts
to
the
audit
and
again
in
November,
there
was
a
recommendation
from
City
stuff
to
not
do
transfers
to
reserves.
So
then,
here
we
are
in
April
2023
and
the
slide.
The
prediction
looks
extremely
different:
it's
on
the
lower
right
than
any
of
the
other
ones.
Nothing's
going
negative
and
I
got
to
wonder
how
that
happened.
T
Next
slide,
please,
and
also
the
next
slide,
will
show
you
how,
in
in
June
of
last
year,
we
were
looking
at
a
minor
impact,
a
little
hard
to
read
the
lines,
but
the
Blue
Line.
The
good
line
was
on
top
and
now
the
Blue
Line,
the
good
line
is
on
the
bottom.
So
that's
bad.
We're
going
in
the
negative
next
slide.
Please
so
first
thing
don't
sell
our
stuff
water,
we
own
it
and
as
San
Jose
wants
to
buy.
Maybe
our
lease
is
not
enough
open
space.
T
We
voted
for
you
uut,
we
own
Blackberry,
Farm.
That's
why
we
got
uut
City
Hall
Annex!
Keep
it
next,
one
which
I
talked
about
earlier
Revenue
side.
Consider
a
large
company,
headcount
tax.
Other
communities
are
doing
it.
We
looked
at
it
in
2018,
don't
change,
uut,
parcel
taxes,
let's
be
smart!
Thank.
C
C
U
Yeah
I
I
just
want
to
split
it
into
a
typical
Financial
kind
of
picture.
One
side:
we
can
look
at
the
income
and
expenses,
the
other
side.
We
can
look
at
assets
and
liabilities.
First
of
all,
absolutely
in
terms
of
assets.
We
should
not
be
selling
any
City
asset.
I
think
that's
that's
a
wrong
idea.
Okay,
in
terms
of
the
ability
to
manage
what
is
going
on,
I
think
one
of
the
best
thing
in
terms
of
strategy
is
to
consider
just
like
we
have
been
dumped
with
about
30
million
dollar
loss.
U
U
The
second
thing
I
would
like
to
send
is
in
terms
of
spend
management.
There
are
a
lot
of
places
where
spend
management
can
be
better.
You
know
you
we
can
you
know
we
can
make
sure
that
many
other
projects,
many
other
things-
are
accounted
very
well
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we
know
the
amount
of
money
coming
in
coming
out
and
that's
a
detail
which
somebody
else
referred
to
as
Enterprise
funds.
We
need
to
get.
We
need
to
get
into
that
kind
of
more.
U
The
third
is
cash
and
fun
flow
management,
I
think
cash
flow
and
front
flow
management.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
all
the
revenues
that
we
need
to
realize
need
to
be.
Actually
we
need
to
speed
that
up
so
that
it's
possible
for
us
to
have
a
healthy
Fund
in
cash
flow
in
in
terms
of
income.
I
I
would
definitely
support
a
staggered
or
what
I
would
say
even
a
large
or
larger
business
head
contacts.
U
You
know
that
I
think
does
make
sense,
because
we
are
losing
your
system
tax
revenue,
but
that
is
something
we
can
negotiate
with
apple
in
terms
of
if
any
development
fees
are
involved.
I
would
just
say
that
development
fees
should
be
especially
specifically
targeting
multi-family
house
homing
homes
and
commercial
property
and
not
adus
and
single
family
homes,
because
that
would
make
things
worse
for
us
and
I
think
in
terms
of
remittance
from
the
county.
We
should
try
to
realize
it
as
fast
as
possible
so
that
we
can
do
a
better
cash
flow
management.
U
Yeah
I
believe
that
all
the
waivers
that
we
are
giving
we
should
try
to
look
at
them
with
them.
You
know
with
a
microscope
and
try
to
reduce
waivers
impossible
and
then
I
think
yeah.
We
need
to
look
at
all
the
information
strategically
and
please,
please
don't
sell
Blackberry
Farm
I
completely
agree
with
Jeff
Paulson's.
This
thing
you
cannot
get
that
kind
of
property
at
all,
so
I
would
just
go
with
that,
and
these
are
the
main
points.
U
I
would
like
to
write
to
the
council
about
other
details
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
today.
I
thank
mayor,
V
and
the
council
members
for
for
for
this
particular
session,
and
thank
you
for
considering
the
options
that
are
in
front
of
you.
Bye.
V
Good
evening
and
city
council
I
want
to
express
my
disappointment
that
the
attachments
provided
today
for
this
agent
item
were
grossly
insufficient.
A
single
presentation
for
a
topic
of
this.
This
magnitude
is
not
sufficient
information
for
either
the
city
council
or
the
resident.
V
I
would
have
liked
to
see
a
list
of
capital
projects
that
are
in
progress
as
well
as
have
been
funded
so
that
we
can
have
a
more
meaningful
discussion
of
where
these
Cuts
can
occur.
Putting
a
list
of
assets
to
be
sold
on
that
list
completely
violates
the
trust
of
restaurant
City
staff
and
the
city
manager
lose
the
trust
of
residence
by
putting
items
such
as
Blackberry
Farm
golf
course,
which
is
a
Crown
Jewel
of
the
city
of
Cupertino,
as
well
as
other
properties
and
our
water
supply.
V
On
the
list
of
assets
to
be
sold,
we
do
not
have
the
ability
to
raise
taxes
on
residents
in
case
you
have
not
noticed.
We
have
had
over
a
hundred
and
sixty
eight
thousand
layoffs
in
just
this
year
alone,
and
most
of
those
have
been
Tech
layoffs
and
most
of
those
have
been
in
Silicon
Valley
Cupertino
largely
consists
of
tech,
professional
that
are
struggling
and
breathing
from
Mass
Tech
layoffs
from
hyperinflation
and
from
ongoing
challenges
that
the
city
poses
in
terms
of
quality
of
life.
This
is
not
time
to
talk
about
raising
taxes.
V
This
is
the
time
to
live
within
our
means.
I,
look
at
the
capital,
Improvement
projects
that
we
have
and
the
projects
that
we
have
funded,
as
well
as
the
project
that
we've
requested.
We
have
projects
that
are
continually
bike
and
pet
projects
or
bike
lanes
that
are
multi-million
dollar
project
and
we
simply
do
not
have
the
ability
to
afford
this
project.
Furthermore,
we
have
an
inequity
in
the
community
representation
when
these
projects
are
considered,
we
have
a
bike
and
fed
commission.
V
We
have
no
commission
to
represent
the
needs
of
the
remaining
parts
of
the
constituents
of
the
city,
which
are
people
that
actually
use
the
roads
for
day-to-day
Transportation.
The
inconveniences
of
these
bike,
Lanes,
coupled
with
the
absolutely
low
usage
of
these
bike
Lanes,
simply
do
not
warrant
any
more
funding
for
additional
lanes
and
we
need
to
clock
back
the
funding
that
has
been
designed
for
extensions
on
Steven's
Creek,
as
well
as
extensions
on
De
Anza
and
McLaren.
The
Bollinger
Road
Improvement
project
needs
to
be
canceled
now
not
a
single
penny.
Thank.
W
Sorry
I
had
to
stop
another
meeting
for
a
minute,
so
I
this
is
a
huge
deal.
This
is
a
huge
task
for
everyone
involved,
including
residents
and
I
hope.
No
one
forgets
that
I
would
not
want
to
be
in
the
shoes
of
many
of
you
that
are
there
tonight.
I
also
don't
want
to
be
in
the
shoes
I'm
in
as
a
resident
and
I
wholeheartedly
believe
and
think
most
residents
would
that
selling
asset
is
a
huge
mistake,
huge,
especially
in
this
area.
W
So
please
avoid
that
at
all
cost
pardon
that
expression,
you
know
we've
and
then
Jeff
Paulson
brought
up
I
was
able
to
listen
to
part
of
this
I
think
he
was
speaking
about
a
group
that
might
come
in
and
maybe
save
the
day
on.
The
golf
course
I
caution
that
very
much
I'm
aware
of
the
group
that
people
in
the
city
have
been
speaking
to
about
this,
including
staff
and
probably
some
council
members,
not
sure
and
apparently
some
resident.
W
This
is
not
a
tried
and
true
company.
If
you
try
to
look
them
up,
there's
very
little
information.
It's
basically
from
what
I
can
understand
a
startup
that
doesn't
have
the
model,
a
model
that
or
I
suspect,
doesn't
have
a
model
that
will
satisfy
what
the
city
really
wants
and
I
don't
want
anybody
being
a
duck,
rabbit
and
jumping
into
something
just
because
they're
gonna
think
that
nothing
else
can
be
done.
We've
spent
money,
money,
money
on
study,
study,
study,
we're
down
to
two
options:
I,
don't
know
why
those
fat
has
not
continued.
W
W
W
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
am
going
to
close
the
public
comments
session
and
thanks
for
all
the
public
comments.
I
just
have
one
question
for
City
attorney
Jensen.
Is
it
possible
to
answer
the
questions
of
why
we're
not
swimming
and
yelling
at
in
2021.
B
Yeah
I
I
can
say
that
that
both
Council
and
the
public
have
been
consistently
been
provided
with
as
much
information
as
we
possibly
could.
Given
our
confidentiality
obligations
and
the
fact
that
taxpayer
information
is
confidential
and
and
I
can
say
that
we,
we
have
been
aggressively
pushing
to
make
sure
that
we
can
disclose
this
information
to
the
public
and
it
was
important
to
do
it
as
part
of
this
budget
process.
As
we
go
in
for
this
next
fiscal
year.
I
would
also
say
you
know
at
any.
You
know
any
given
time.
A
Thank
you
for
City
attorney,
Jensen's
explanation.
I
just
want
the
public
to
be
assured
that
staff
and
the
council
are
working
really
hard
and
they
are
sometimes
our
hence
a
bind
that
we
sometimes
we
information
is
flowing
in
the
direction
that
needed
to
be.
Thank
you.
So
now,
I
want
to
bring
it
back
to
the
council
for
up.
A
M
I
just
had
a
quick
question
from
before,
which
was:
do
you
anticipate
receiving
basically
a
bill,
and
then,
if
you
receive
this,
are
they
going
to
give
you
some
leeway
in
how
you
pay
this
this
money
back
or
is
that
how
does
this
progress.
B
So
so
the
you
know
so
this
is
this
is
a
decision
that
that
can
be
appealed
so
that
if
we
will
the
end,
so
we
won't
necessarily
have
to
pay
anything
until
the
end
of
that
appeal
process.
That
said,
it's
it's
prudent
to
to
place.
You
know,
set
the
money
aside
while
that
process
is
playing
out,
and
so
that's
that's.
Why
that
the
assumptions
that
you
see
are
baked
into
the
analysis
that
administrative
Services
has
provided
Okay
so.
M
Right
now
when
this
news
is
coming
out,
because
that
makes
me
think
well,
maybe
there's
timers
starting
sometime
around
now
and
that
it
might
actually
be
more
than
the
73
percent,
meaning
73
looking
forward.
But
you
could
also
lose
that
same
or
something
close
to
it
percentage
for
this
particular
year.
So
that
being
said,
are
we
going
to
look
at
a
scenario
that
that
considers
that
you
know
I
hear
this
saying
worst
case
scenario,
but
it
sounds
like
there
could
be
another
one.
B
So
so
there
is
the
possibility
of
of
a
retroactive
payment
repayment
of
sales
taxes
that
have
already
been
received
by
the
city.
I
would
say
that
there's
there's
a
great
deal
of
uncertainty
over
the
timing
and
magnitude
of
that
payment
or
whether
there
will
be
any
such
payment
at
all,
but
but
I
don't
think
I
could
I
can
really
get
into
any
more
details
about
that.
B
You
know
you
know
at
this
time
you
know
I
would
have
to
defer
to
the
budget
team
as
to
you
know,
if,
if
there
were
some
payment,
you
know
sort
of
how
that
would
be
funded
and
and
again
I
think
there's
just
a
lot
of
uncertainty
about
both
the
magnitude
and
the
timing.
At
this
point,.
K
So
after
everything
that
we've
heard
this
evening,
I
think
it's
important
to
reinforce
for
everyone
that
we
should
not
be
panicking,
especially
at
this
stage
in
the
proceedings,
we
should
all
be
taking
it
extraordinarily
seriously.
I
think
everybody
is,
but
Panic
is
the
enemy
of
good
policy,
making.
K
We
have
a
bright
and
Innovative
Community,
I'm
sure
that
working
together
we
can
figure
this
all
out
together.
The
cities
that
are
around
us
manage
to
make
it
all
work
with
far
less
Reliance
on
a
narrow
set
of
sales
tax
producers
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
do
the
same,
and
we
can
rise
to
that
challenge.
Thank
you.
L
So,
just
to
clarify
what
we
are
seeing
is
not
the
worst
case.
It's
because
we
have
not
received
the
final
decision
letter.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
this
before.
We
have
that
letter,
but
Steph
has
communicated
with
cdtfa
to
know
enough
to
pre.
Have
this
projection,
but
final
one
might
ask
us
to
pay
back
the
taxes
we
have
received
in
previous
years
and
that's
not
included
in
this
forecast
right.
L
O
L
O
L
This
worst
case
with
the
information
we
have
now,
but
it
could
be
worse,
okay
and
then
I
think
I.
Second,
that
we
need
detailed
Staffing
number
between
Department,
because
some
department,
for
example,
planning
there
are
vacancies,
but
we
do
need
to
fill
them
and
some
departments
have
grown
over
the
years.
Maybe
they
need
to
be
reduced
in
numbers.
Maybe
people
need
to
be
moved
to
other
departments,
so
we
need
to
examine
and
then
I
think
we
are
more
top
heavy
than
a
few
years
ago.
L
So
here
is
from
our
website
this
last
year
we
had
a
hundred
and
almost
110
million
dollars,
but
back
in
2000
I
can't
see
the
number,
but
you
can
see
that
the
even
in
2012
we
had
only
I
think
the
room
has
a
bar
there.
So
I
cannot
see
the
number
okay.
So
in
2012
we
had
54
million
dollars
and
then
2014.
L
We
had
83
million
dollars
and
we
just
had
a
big
increase
during
the
pandemic
and
then
now
that
bar
for
the
current
year
is
not
the
full
year.
So
you
can
ignore
that,
because
that's
the
current
year
to
now
so
as
you
can
see
that
we
had
a
lot
more
sales
tax
in
the
past
few
years
and
we
are
just
going
back
to
maybe
normal.
So
it
is
we
shouldn't
Panic.
However,
we
have
been
living
when
we
get
more
money.
L
We
have
been
spending
more
and
we
should
be
cutting
back
and
that's
just
responsible
to
do
to
so.
Therefore,
we
should
examine
what
current
projects
we
have.
What
current
contract
we
have
and
see
if
any
of
them
can
be
cut
back
because
we
signed
off
them
when
we
think
that
we
will
continue
to
get
this
very
high
income.
So
this
is
all
on
the
City
website.
You
can
I
find
out.
L
You
can
click
on
Revenue
click
on
the
annual
actuals
and
then
go
click
on
this
bar
chart,
and
then
you
can
get
this
number
and
then
the
deep
blue
darker
blue
is
the
sales
tax
and
light
blue
is
the
property
tax
sales
tax
has
increased
a
lot
and
and
it's
just
reduced
to
normal
So
yeah.
Thank
you
and
yeah.
Okay.
N
We
still
don't
have
exact
numbers
and
hopefully
we'll
have
some
something
more
Concrete
in
the
in
the
May
first
proposed
budget
that
staff
will
produce,
but
I
also
wanted
to
commend
the
city
and
staff
and
previous
councils
on
establishing
a
strong
financial
footing.
Over
over
previous
years,
we've
been
very
lucky
in
that
we've:
we've
been
a
relatively
wealthy
City
and
most
cities
of
this
size
encountering
a
a
decline
in
revenues
of
this
magnitude
would
have
major
operational
problems.
N
N
So
you
know
talking
about
you
know:
we've
had
many
comments
about
the
Blackberry,
Farms,
Golf,
Course
and
other
assets,
but
these
I'm,
assuming
this
is
just
a
list
of
options
that
staff
throughout
not
for
next
year,
but
over
this
10-year
period,
assuming
that
things
stay
as
bad
as
they
are
now
over
a
span
of
10
years.
So
that's
maybe
this
is
something
we
would
have
to
consider
in
year
rate
or
year,
nine,
but
I'm,
assuming
that,
because
of
the
healthy
state
of
our
reserves.
M
Thank
you,
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
pull
up
the
forecast
expenditure
assumptions
chart
once
more
and
and
I
might
want
to
take
some
time
offline
to
have
some
explanation
on
this
one
as
well
so
I'm
looking
at
you've
got
materials
contract
special
projects
can
contingencies
here.
So
let's
see
the
not
the,
not
the,
not
the
expenditure
reduction
strategies,
but
well
this
one.
This
one
will
work.
We
can.
We
can
look
at
that
so
when
I'm
looking
at
materials
is
that
a
strategy
to
reduce
the
materials
across
the
board?
M
It
okay,
so
there's
another
there's
a
forecast
expenditure
assumptions
page,
which
is
like
two
slides
back:
okay.
So
under
there
there's
special
projects
at
a
0.5
million
base
plus
CPI
annually.
Is
this
referring
to
the
the
special
projects
that
that
I
was
mentioning
and
and
what?
What
exactly
do
you
mean
by
this.
Q
M
Okay,
so
the
the
expenditure
assumption,
then,
is
the
500
000,
plus
the
CPI
annually
moving
forward,
so
that
is
that
is
it
will
be
a
reduction
okay
and
I'm
I'll.
Take
the
rest
of
my
questions
offline,
so
I
can
that's
all
right
and
we'll
pull
the
pull
the
chart
apart.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
We
could
charge
more
because
we
already
have
the
occupancy
we
need
for
that
hour.
So
that
could
be
considered.
So
please,
then,
that
way
it's
this
one
is
heavily
subsidized
yeah.
Please
consider
that
and
also
the
other
information
we
get
and
then
I
would
sincerely
request
one
additional
public
hearing
before
May
17th
for
the
public
to
get
the
review
the
budget
and
then
have
can
ask
questions
that,
in
addition
to
the
May
17th
council
meeting.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
ciao,
so
I'm
gonna
use
my
five
minutes
to
say
a
few
high-level
things.
I
understand
the
staff
is
giving
us.
You
know,
recommendations,
suggestions
and
I
particularly
appreciate.
A
A
The
Civil
grand
jury
especially
says
that
the
council
members
and
us
we
need
to
work
with
staff.
The
staff
have
expertise
and
I.
We.
We
need
your
expertise
to
come
up
with
recommendations,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
recommendations
are
going
to
be
100
agreeable
or
the
the
best
ones.
But
if
we
are
using
pretty
accusatory
tones
every
time
they
suggest
something.
Then,
if
I
were
a
staff,
I
would
not
suggest
anything
because
the
less
I
suggest
the
better
I'm.
Not
being
you
know
reprimanded,
so
I
would
love
the
public.
A
You
guys
are
Gene
genius
come
up
with
great
ideas.
I
heard
some
good
ideas
about
this
and
that
come
with
ideas,
and
you
have
council
members
and
staff
who
dedicate
it
to
make
sure
Cupertino
past
this
challenge
for
every
challenge.
This
comes
with
opportunities.
This
is
opportunity
for
us
to
holistically
look
what
Cupertino,
what
Finance
would
look
like
in
the
next
20
years.
You
know
a
long
time
ago
already
people
are
warning
us
depending
on
one
company.
Apple
is
not
a
good
thing.
It's
coming
out.
A
That
is
coming
true,
but
as
councilman
froon
says,
let
us
not
panic.
We
have
great
Community,
we
have
spat
staff
with
expertise.
You
have
dedicated
council
members,
we
are
going
to
together
we're
going
to
pull
through
this,
and
this
is
good
time
for
us
to
look
at
all
our
financial
status
and
think
think
through
what
what
what
revenues
can
we
can
we
increase
what
reductions
we
can
make?
How
can
we
make
our
city
whole,
but
also
move
forward?
So
I
am
not
scared.
I
think
one
of
the
the
speaker
said
she.
A
She
doesn't
Envy
us,
no,
she
should
Envy
us.
We
are
here
together
to
meet
a
challenge,
and
this
is
what
we
we
should
do.
This
is
we're
elected
to
do.
We
are
going
to
work
with
our
residents
we're
going
to
work
with
our
staff.
We
are
going
to
meet
this
Challenge
and
we
are
going
to
make
Cupertino
a
better
place,
but
we
cannot
work
together
if
we
continue
to
accuse
each
other.
A
Your
idea
is
bad
and
no
idea
is
a
bad
idea.
Let's
work
together
come
with
your
ideas,
come
with
your
suggestions
and
together
we'll
find
solutions
that
are
visible.
That
will
work
for
the
next
three
years.
Five
years,
ten
years,
Cupertino
has
a
lot
of
potential
I've
been
calling
I've
been
working.
No
talking
with
my
colleagues
in
Saratoga.
You
know,
their
annual
budget
is
just
a
little
over
20,
some
20
million
dollars
every
year,
they're,
not
Cupertino,
they're,
very
envious
of
Cupertino.
We
still
have
much
more
than
what
Saratoga
has
we
have
industry.
A
We
have
future
income,
we
have
potential
developments
and
we
have
great
assets.
We
have
family
entertainment,
we're
going
to
work
together,
but
without
the
accusatory
tones,
because
if
we
do
that
we
are
stimuli,
Cinemas
everybody,
we
will
be
afraid
to
come
up
with
ideas,
we'll
be
afraid
to
work
together.
So
I'm
seeking
everyone,
our
residents,
our
council
members,
our
staff,
let's
be
Innovative,
let's
bring
our
ideas,
no
matter
how
bad
it
could
look
like
for
somebody
else.
A
Let's
work
together
and
pull
through
this,
because
if
we
don't
cupitino
will
go
down
because
we
will
just
be
offset
each
other's
ideas,
we
would
be
not
coming
up
with
good
Solutions.
Let's
work
on
feasible,
visible,
fist,
visible,
but
innovative
solutions.
Look
at
Cupertino.
This
is
a
wonderful
place.
I
know
you're
all
here,
because
you
love
Cupertino.
Nobody
is
not
going
to
be
here
if
he
or
she
does
not
love
Cupertino.
So
let's
put
this
love
together
and
work
together
as
a
team.
Do
not
criticize
anybody's
ideas.
A
Add
on
it.
Somebody
come
with
your
idea.
You
say
hey
this.
This
could
work.
Maybe,
but
maybe
we
should
do
this,
and
this
this
is
how
strategic
planning
comes
along.
This
is
opportunity
for
Cupertino
to
sit
down
together
and
plan
strategically
for
the
next
five
years.
10
years,
20
years.
Look
forward.
Do
not
accuse
staff.
Do
not
accuse
other
council
members.
Do
not
accuse
other
committee
members.
We
are
all
in
this
together.
We
can't
do
it
without
everyone's
collaborative
Spirit,
without
love
for
our
city
and
for
each
other.
A
I
am
asking
and
seeking
your
support,
support.
Your
council
members
support
your
staff.
Thank
you,
and
this
is
just
a
information
item.
So
do
we
have
other
council
members
like
to
put
in
some
thoughts
council
member
from
actually,
you
have
a
little
over
four
minutes
and
Council
vice
mayor
Moore,
and
you
have
about
two
and
a
half
minutes,
councilman
Richard
Moore,
you
pretty
much
use
your
time.
K
I
I
think
that's
about
it.
I
did
want
to
clarify
for
the
purpose
of
the
modeling
of
future
development
that
we
should
be
examining
what
the
housing
element
impact
would
be
specifically
because
in
the
course
of
putting
that
document
together,
we
are
making
a
variety
of
statements
to
the
state,
supported
by
evidence
that
those
projects
are
are
likely
to
be
built,
so
I
feel
like
we
ought
to
be,
including
them
in
our
future
forecast.
O
A
All
right,
it's
8
30
we're
going
to
resume
our
city
council
meeting.
We
are
going
to
consent
agenda
number
three,
which
is
consider
authorizing
city
funding
for
up
to
twenty
two
hundred
dollars
for
the
visit
to
Sister
Shinju
Taiwan.
The
recommended
action
is
to
authorize
city
funding
for
up
to
twenty
two
hundred
dollars
for
the
visit
to
sister
city
Taiwan,
Shinju
Taiwan.
So
do
we
have
a
staff
report.
A
So
we'll
open
up
for
the
council
questions
before
public
comment.
A
If
there's
no
council
questions
I
would
open
up
the
public
comment.
Council
member
anybody
wants
all
right.
Let's,
oh.
L
L
Just
to
clarify
so
on
the
city
manager
will
be
leaving
on
Sunday
right
and
then
we'll
be
in
Taiwan
from
next
Monday
to
next
to
the
following
Tuesday.
That's.
H
O
So
there
will
be
a
total
of
so
Monday
is
a
travel
day,
so
I
arrive
in
Taiwan
on
Monday
and.
H
O
Through
Friday
have
business
arranged
by
the
sister
city
delegation
Monday,
the
following
Monday
is
a
vacation
day
and
Tuesday
is
a
travel
day.
O
So
I
am
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
understand
the
question,
so
I
will
be
traveling
on
the
Monday
and
then
the
following
Tuesday
to
come
back.
Not
only
I
will
be
assisting
mayor
way
during
the
delegation.
Business
I
will
also
be
checking
my
emails
working
on
the
city
operation,
while
I'm
in
just
as
if
I'm
in
City
Hall.
O
I
believe
that
there
is
a
draft
itinerary
that
has
been
shared
with
me
by
the
sister
city
delegation,
which
is
also
part
of
the
response.
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
Logistics
Arrangement
but
I
think
that's
still
being
finalized,
we'll
be
visiting
Taipei,
new
Taipei,
Shinju
and
then
also
the
high
schools.
A
So
I
actually
just
got
it
updated
at.
A
So
Tuesday
and
Wednesday
is
Taipei.
New
Taipei,
City,
Thursday
and
Friday
is
xinju
and
then
actually
city
manager,
Pamela
doesn't
know
that
we
just
added
a
Saturday
at
National.
University's,
Industry
Group
wants
you
and
me
to
be
there.
They
just
set
up
an
office
in
Los,
Angeles
and
they're
very
interested
in
meeting
you
and
me
to
exceed
potential
economic
development
in
Cupertino.
So
sorry,
you're
going
to
work
on
Saturday
too,
not
a
problem
so.
A
Right
sorry,
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
public
comment:
oh
I'm,
sorry,
a
council
member
more!
You
have
questions.
M
It's
a
little
unclear
because
it
sounds
as
though
that
there
needs
to
be
fundraising
happening
by
the
sister
city
committee.
So
staff
is
working
with
the
sister
city
committee
to
determine
if
and
how
much
of
these
expenses
can
be
covered
by
the
committee's
fundraising
efforts
once
the
trip
concludes.
The
committee
board
will
discuss
the
possibility
of
additional
reimbursements
to
the
city
at
that
time.
M
So
I'm
I'm
curious
about
that.
But
our
policy
seems
to
state
that
50
percent
of
Mayor
ways
trip
is
is
funded.
That
city
council
will
fund
that,
but
you're
providing
us
with
a
twenty
two
hundred
dollar
amount.
M
So
I'm
not
really
sure
that
sounds
like
it
that
possibly
what
what
you're
meaning
to
say
is
that
that
possibly
is
50
of
the
total
trip
cost
just
for
mayor
way,
I'm,
not
sure
how
this
the
the
this
money
breaks
down
at
all
so,
and
it
says
it
in
the
staff
report,
in
accordance
with
the
sister
city
policy,
which
is
attachment.
A
half
of
all
the
travel
expenses
for
mayor
way
will
be
covered
by
the
city,
so
that
is
that
the
twenty
two
hundred
dollars
and
then
it
says
for
staff.
M
The
policy
states
that
travel
expenses
must
be
funded
by
the
sister
city
committee
or
by
the
individual
unless
authorized
by
the
city
council.
But
what
we're
being
asked
to
fund
approving
the
request
would
result.
Staff
recommends
I'm,
sorry
that
City
authorized
funding
for
the
sister
city
visit
in
an
amount
of
up
to
twenty
two
hundred
dollars
from
the
city
manager
conference
and
meeting
account.
O
This
is
my
expenditure
request
coming
to
council
to
cover
for
my
travel
expense,
as
the
policy
mentioned,
that
mayor
waste
expenses
covered
by
the
city
up
to
50
percent
and
I
am
not
a
council
member,
so
the
policy
says
all
other
Council
or
city
staff
who
travel
with
the
city
for
the
sister
city
delegation
can
be
reimbursed
or
paid
for
either
through
the
sister
city
funding
activity
which
hasn't
been
none
because
we're
just
barely
coming
out
of
the
pandemic
or
funded
by
me
or
authorized
by
Council.
To
use
my
training
fund.
M
So,
but
through
the
the
mayor,
we're
going
to
be
covering
50
of
your
trip,
so
does
anyone
have
a
ballpark
amount
of
what
that
would
be?
So
this
is
twenty
two
hundred
dollars.
What
you
anticipate
is
just
for
air
travel
or
for
the
for
the
manager.
Will
you
be
staying
in
a
hotel
for
the
duration.
O
Sure,
through
the
mayor,
I
am
staying
with
my
family
to
alleviate
additional
lodging
costs
for
the
trip
it's
up
to
twenty
two
hundred
dollars,
including
airfare
and
potentially
ground
transportation.
That
I
don't
know
of,
as
mayor
mentioned,
that
the
schedule
is
quite
fluid,
so
twenty
two
hundred
dollars
should
be
enough
to
cover
for
everything.
M
Just
right,
but
but
for
for
us
to
understand
that
it
while
it
says
2200,
there's
the
50
of
the
mayor's
trip,
which
would
be
another
thirty
five
hundred
dollars
or
so,
but
I.
M
Thank
you
city
manager,
however
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
much
this
trip
is
costing
from
you.
A
Know
we
just
had
a
lengthy
budget
discussion
city
get
may
I
answer
council
member
most
question
about
my
expenses.
Yes,.
A
I
can
tell
you:
I
am
also
going
to
stay
with
my
family,
so
my
flight
is
about
sixteen
hundred
dollars
and
I.
Don't
have
any
probably
not
any
other
expenses
but
50,
okay.
So
here's
the
email
from
Sister
City
the
land
costs
in
xinju
for
kubukino
City,
Representatives
50
of
the
Mayors,
so
they
will
pay
50
of
the
mayor's
travel
expenses
in
qingju,
including
lodging
a
hundred
percent
of
city
managers.
They
will
cover
your
Shinju
cost
100.
That's
what
sister
city
has
funded.
M
Okay
and
then
lastly,
if
I
could
have
some
explanation
about
where
how
the
the
sister
city
committee
from
Council
these
appointments
that
were
made,
how
does
that
relate
to
this
to
the
sister
city
at
all?
M
Oh
so,
two
of
the
council
members
each
year
are
appointed
to
the
sister
city
committee.
But
what?
How
does
that
relate
to
to
this
sister
city
committee.
A
Okay,
so
maybe
I
can
answer
that
too.
Okay,
so
this
is
the
email
from
Angela
Chen
I'm,
going
to
read
her
email
to
you.
This
year's
Exchange
program
is
a
smaller
group
comparing
to
Prior
years
as
we
are
handling
this
year's
Exchange
program
as
a
pilot
program
after
three
years
of
global
pandemic
and
through
which
we
had
not
worked
with
Shinju
government
officials
at
all.
A
Last
year,
we
officially
notified
Shinju
of
our
wish
to
visit
and
they
expressed
their
own
welcome,
but
emphasize
that
this
program
has
to
be
flexible
due
to
potential
covet
quarantine
requirements
and
to
keep
the
program
very
small.
So
when
I
was
approached
to
come,
they
did
not.
They
said
they
only
limit
to
five
people,
and
actually
I
was
just
talking
to
a
broader
right.
A
There
I
didn't
invite
city
managers,
it's
actually
shinju's
sister
sitting
by
the
city
managers
to
go,
and
so
this
is
how
this
program
is
so
small
they're
owning
five
delegates,
one
from
Cooperative
Union,
School,
District
One
from
Fremont
Union,
High,
School,
District,
One
from
Foothill,
the
Anza
Community
College,
school
district
and
one
from
city
as
a
city
mayor
and
one
invited
a
city
manager
to
go
to
it's.
Only
five
delegations
this
year.
M
Okay,
thank
you
mayor,
so
I
think
we
might
want
to
consider
and
May.
Maybe
this
will
have
some
cost
savings
as
well,
because
I
see
that
the
sister
cities
budget
amount
is
66
000
per
year
in
in
the
the
city
budget.
We
might
want
to
consider
abolishing
the
sister
city
appointments
because
it
seems
as
though
we're
somewhat
irrelevant.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
L
Some
question,
so
the
staff
report
says
that
the
city
manager
will
be
a
part
of
the
delegation,
will
be
supporting
the
mayor
on
official
City
business
and
per
the
sister
city
policy.
Usually
when
there
are
delegations
from
either
sister
or
friendship,
City
coming
to
Cupertino
to
visit
I
have
received
them.
Usually
the
scope
of
Staff
support
is
just
preparing
Proclamation
preparing
gifts,
usually
city
manager,
or
no
none
of
the
cities
that
have
even
attend
the
meeting.
L
A
This
is
my
first
time
going
so
I,
don't
think
I
can
give
you
specific,
but
when
I
heard
Pamela
is
going,
what
I
very
happy
is
I
do
believe
that
new
type,
a
city
or
friendship
city
has
some
intention
of
talking
about
Economic,
Development
and
so
is
shinju's
sisters.
City's
mayor
she
and
I
exchanged
some
line
because
she
was
elected
and
I
was
elected.
A
L
A
O
I
believe
to
ask
before
council
is
to
authorize
my
travel
ex
manager.
My
job
is
to
support
the
council
and
also
to
support
the
mayor.
O
Delegation
and
I
I
wish
I
can
give
you
a
line
by
line
job
description
of
what
I
do
every
day
in
City
Hall
and
not
outside
of
City
Hall.
But
again
my
job
description
says
I'm
here
to
support
the
council
and
each
council
members,
especially
the
mayor
as
well.
So
again,
I
just
want
to
remind
the
council
the
action
before
you
is
to
authorize
or
to
deny
my
travel
expense
requests.
O
L
Question
is
the
other
delegation
members,
the
school
board,
members
I,
think
from
cusd
and
Fremont
Union
and
the
foothill
the
enzyme.
My
understanding
is,
they
are
all
paying
their
own
entire
travel
expenses,
including
hotel,
and
they
are
taking
a
vacation
time
from
their
work
to
go.
L
So
do
I
have
any
sister
city
representative
here,
so
we
don't
have
anyone
who
can
talk
about
sister
city,
how
they
operate.
I
spoke
to
a
teacher
who
has
sponsored
the
trip,
and
they
are
very
serious
that
their
student
Exchange
program
does
not
take
any
public
resource
from
the
school
district.
Any
of
the
teachers
who
volunteer
to
be
chaperone
for
the
entire
trip
well
are
going
on
there
a
personal
vacation
time
and
then
any
of
them
pre
or
post
trip
meetings
are
all
happening
at
night
on
their
personal
time.
A
Okay,
so
if
this
is
not
a
question,
let's
go
to
public
comments,
let's
open
up
the
public
comments,
please.
C
Yes,
mayor
I
have
four
speaker
cards
in
Community,
Hall
and
I
see
two
hands
raised
on
Zoom,
starting
with
Peggy
Griffin,
followed
by
Kathy
helgerson,
followed
by
Gene
Bedard
welcome,
Peggy.
R
Sorry,
good
evening,
mayor
wave
vice
mayor,
Mohan,
council
members
and
staff
yeah
there
you
go
in
the
sister
city
and
friendship,
City
policy
2018.,
the
city
will
pay
50
of
one
trip
per
year
per
council
member,
provided
the
trip
is
in
congestion
with
an
official
delegation,
all
other
Council
or
city
staff.
Travel
for
City
sister
city
programs
must
off,
in
this
particular
case,
to
be
funded
by
sister
city
committee,
fundraising
activities
or
by
the
individual
traveling
Council
or
staff
member,
unless
authorized
in
advance
in
advance
by
the
city
council.
R
R
R
Everyone
on
this
trip
does
so
on
their
own
time.
Teachers
do
it
during
spring
break
adults,
take
vacation
or
time
without
pay
from
their
jobs.
Mayor
way,
why
should
this
city
pay
someone
to
take
a
trip
like
this
to
me?
It
feels
like
a
boondoggle.
You
both
have
family
there,
you're
going
to
stay
with
your
family
and
oh
by
the
way.
The
city's
going
to
pay
for
the
trip.
C
S
Good
evening,
mayor
way
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Gene
bedord
and
I'm.
A
resident
of
Cupertino
as
a
member
of
the
public
I
am
thoroughly
annoyed
with
this
agenda
item
regarding
travel
expenses
for
two
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
for
our
city
manager
to
accompany
our
mayor
on
a
sister
cities
trip
to
Taiwan
the
city
managers,
travel
budget
has
funds
available,
so
there's
no
need
to
allocate
additional
funds.
This
is
standard
for
staff.
They
have
funds
to
be
able
to
do
professional
type
activities.
This
is
economic
development.
S
S
G
Good
evening,
so
I
think
that
this
this
is
terrific,
that
for
the
first
time
since
covid,
you
know
three
years
ago,
with
all
that
isolation,
we
actually
can
have
a
trip
with
communication
with
the
sister
city
and
the
sister
city
asks
for
a
small
delegation
and
specifically
ask
for
our
mayor
and
our
city
manager
so
hungry
our
mayor
and
Pam
Wu,
our
city
manager.
We're
specifically
asked
to
be
included
in
this
small
delegation.
G
I
believe
I
heard
that
the
sister
city
is
paying
a
hundred
percent
for
the
city
manager
and
I.
Think
it's
terrific
that
that
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
are
kind
enough
to
not
generate
Hotel
bills,
but
will
stay
in
their
childhood
bedrooms
or
wherever
the
family
has
room
to
put
them.
This
strip
will
have
Economic
Development
possibilities
for
Cupertino
and
as
the
presentation
previously,
we
need
to
have
more
Economic
Development
for
Cupertino.
G
As
the
as
the
agenda
showed
earlier
this
evening,
we
have
bigger
issues
than
than
all
this
kerfuffle
over
a
really
terrific
operation.
Opportunity
and
I
do
believe
that
the
school
districts
are
different
than
the
city
Council
and
the
city,
the
city
manual.
So
I
know
that
the
school
districts
have
had
problems
and
they
have
the
right
to
do
what
they
want
with
all
that
school
recall
and
schools.
Closing
whatever
Cupertino
is
different
and
is
run
by
our
city,
our
Council
and
our
procedure
manual
and
one
speaker
was
saying.
Well,
this
is
really
bad
Optics.
G
However,
people
with
speakers
coming
up
and
going
on
and
on
and
on
trying
to
make
this
a
big
circus
and
create
a
optical
delusional
illusion
that
this
is
a
huge
problem.
When
we
actually
have
bigger
issues
to
look
at,
we
need
to
look
at
Economic,
Development
possibilities
which
I
think
that's
part
of
this
trip,
and
we
need
to
spend
our
time
in
Council,
looking
at
the
big
strategic
picture,
not
nitpicking
over
a
pittance,
two
thousand
dollars
spending
a
lot
of
time
and
having
having
a
big
brouhaha.
G
C
You
go
I
think
so
go
go
for
it.
Thank
you,
Louise
and
next.
Our
final
speaker
in
Community
Hall
is
Rhoda
fry
welcome,
Murda.
T
Hi,
if
the,
if
the
procedure
manual
had
actually
gone
through
as
originally
written
I,
would
not
be
standing
here.
Speaking
to
you,
because
this
is
the
fourth
item-
I'm
speaking
upon
and
I'm
glad
to
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
so
I'm
GL,
I'm,
I'm
glad
that
that
portion
of
the
manual
did
not
go
through
which
would
have
kept
us.
The
public
from
speaking
and
I
do
support
humway's
trip,
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity
and
also
having
been
on
the
School
District
board.
I.
T
Think
it's
great
that
she's
going
city
manager
we're
going
to
miss
you.
You
know
you're
hearing
us
talk
about
how
we
don't
want
it
to
go.
We
don't
want
you
to
be
gone
for
seven
days.
It's
a
lot
of
time.
We
don't
we!
We
need
you
here,
it's
our
budget
right,
so
you
know
and
I
I,
and
why
didn't
we
hear
about
this
sooner?
We
have
procedures.
We've
been
taught,
we've
been
told
that
procedures
are
going
to
be
really
important.
We
got
the
Newton's
Council.
Why
are
we
finding
out
so
late?
T
You've
already
heard
that
from
from
Ms
Griffin
earlier
really
like
to
understand
how
the
trip
brings
economic
value,
whether
there
could
have
been
an
opportunity
to
think
creatively
and
attend
via
Zoom.
You
know,
seven
days
is
a
long
time
to
lose,
lose
your
time
and
then
what
happens
when
Italy
comes
along
Japan
China.
T
Are
they
all
going
to
want
you
to
come
there
too
to
work
on
whatever
Economic
Development
I,
don't
know
what,
and
that
would
be
not
seven
days
it
would
be
28
days,
and
that
would
be
a
really
long
time
to
lose.
You
from
our
city
I'd
also
like
to
know
with
respect
to
the
trip.
T
It
was
something
in
the
agenda
that
said
that
staff
has
gone
on
these
trips
before
I'd
like
to
know
when
and
who
and
where
and
I'm,
certainly
looking
forward
to
seeing
your
report
when
you
return
and
I
also
wanted
to
speak
to
the
Optics
issue.
T
You
know
stuff
as
we're
looking
at
cutbacks,
and
you
know
what
are
the
opportunities
to
attend
by
by
zoom
and
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
we
don't
want
you
to
go.
We
miss
you
we're
going
to
miss
you.
We
need
you
here,
I
know,
you're
leaving
and
I
and
I
guess
you'll
be
in
touch
and
and
we'll
our
day-to-day
will
be
in
the
capable
hands
of
of
Mr
Morley
who
we
adore.
T
So
but
you
know
yeah,
you
gotta,
you
gotta
get
this
stuff
earlier
on
the
agenda,
so
we
don't
get
surprised
so
I'd
appreciate
if
you
could
do
that.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
Rhoda,
and
that
concludes
our
speakers
in
Community
Hall.
So
we
will
move
to
zoom.
We
have
three
hands
raised:
San
R,
lyanna,
Crabtree
and
Lisa
Warren
and
actually
Tessa
Parish
had
lowered
her
hand,
but
she
raised
it
back
again.
So
we'll
start
with
San
welcome
San.
V
V
V
At
this
time,
however,
request
you
to
continue
to
support
the
program
continue
to
Champion
and
sponsor
it
continue
to
send
our
council
members
who
are
inspiring
role,
models
and
elected
representatives
and
are
the
rightful
people
to
be
the
representatives
of
the
city
of
Cupertino
on
this
trip,
not
appointed
officials
and
while
the
sister
city
may
ask
for
whoever
they
ask,
for
it
is
our
prerogative
on
who
we
send,
and
so
I
would
hope
that
you
will
do
the
right
thing.
Leadership
is
about
doing
the
right
thing
when
no
one
is
looking.
V
V
This
is
a
time
when
leadership
is
needed
up
front
and
center
on
the
topic
of
the
budget,
not
as
much
on
the
topic
of
sister
cities
for
our
city
manager,
I
hope
you
have
a
safe
trip
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
great
things
about
your
accomplishments
there
from
the
students
and
plenty
of
photographs
to
the
students,
and
thank
you
for
your
support
and
sponsorship
for
the
program
and
that's
all
I
have.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
J
Good
evening,
Council
and
staff,
thank
you
for
the
informative
discussion
from
the
Dias.
The
questions
from
council
members
and
the
responses
from
mayor
way
and
from
the
city
manager,
Wu
I,
was
actually
very
very
helpful.
I
did
read
the
sister
student
policy
and
I
did
read
the
staff
report.
I
came
away
with
a
lot
of
the
same
questions
that
that
the
council
members
have
have
asked
my
my
takeaway
at
this
point.
Hearing
the
responses
and
hearing
other
people's
comment
is.
J
It
seems
that
there's
a
couple
of
things
one
is
there
seems
to
be
a
disconnect.
What
this
trip
is
I,
fully
respect
and
and
actually
and
very
happy
that
the
the
city
is
engaged
in
a
sister
city
program,
a
very
robust
sister
city
program.
That's
that's
coming
back
following
a
pandemic
and
that
that
program
is
really
about
cultural
exchange
and
making
lifetime
memories,
particularly
for
our
young
people
and
I
understand
the
need
to
have
adult
chaperones
role
models
in
the
community
to
serve
in
that
role.
J
I
I
understand
the
role
to
be
chaperone,
though,
and
in
this
context,
chaperone
being
a
volunteer
position
I
in
the
in
the
context
of
a
sister
city
relationship
that
is
about
cultural
exchange.
I,
don't
understand
that
the
role
of
city
manager
is
is
imperative,
so
in
other
words
a
city
manager
certainly
attend,
and
that
would
be
wonderful
as
a
community
leader,
but
not
in
the
capacity
of
the
city
manager.
J
But
then,
in
the
course
of
the
discussion
from
the
diocese,
it
comes
out
that
there's
actually
Economic
Development
discussions
happening,
which
doesn't
seem
to
be
part
of
what
was
presented
in
this
in
this
agenda
item.
But
this
agenda
item
is
about
a
sister
city
relationship
brought
about
an
economic
development
relationship,
so
I'm
trying
to
understand.
J
J
If
it
is
a
business
trip
or
like
business
I
I
do
hope
that
we'll
get
a
full
report
about
who
was
discussed.
I
hope
that
you
know
any
agreements
that
are
made
are
certainly
going
to
be
cleared
through
Council.
Before
her
you
know,
promises
are
kept
or
it's
just
it's
just
a
little
bit.
Discerning
is
this
cultural
exchange,
or
is
this
Economic
Development?
J
Also
the
staff
report?
It's
really
not
clear.
I
appreciate
councilmember
more
identifying
what
are
the
actual
costs
to
the
city
for
this
trip?
There's
the
cost
apparently
of
the
city
manager's
salary
for
six
days,
there's
the
cost
of
the
city.
Manager's
travel,
there's
some
cost,
for
it
sounds
like
mere
ways
travel,
but
the
only
number
that's
mentioned
is
twenty
two
hundred
dollars.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
this
item.
W
W
All
those
exchanges
either
us
going
there
or
them
coming
here,
is
for
cultural
exchange
and
social
connection
and
sharing
I
I.
This
kick
in
of
Economic
Development
opportunity
is
alarming
to
me
because
I
don't
believe,
that's
what
this
program
is
for
and
I
don't
feel
comfortable
with
I.
Don't
I
really
like
I,
said
I'm
struggling
with
how
to
say
this
without
sounding
like
a
complete
negative
Nelly.
W
It's
just
really
awkward
and
odd
and
and
I
dare
say
inappropriate
to
be
changing
the
mission
of
the
sister
city
engagement
with
each
other
I,
and
there
certainly
should
be
no
promises
made
and
no
Promises
Kept
on
anything,
including,
if
not
primarily,
Economic
Development,
without
anyone
but
two
people
knowing
about
it
it
and
this.
You
know
it
it
because
this
was
awkwardly
done
and
not
been
done
before
and
I
might
remind
everyone.
W
The
reason
this
meeting
is
tonight
instead
of
next
Tuesday
is
because
back
in
March,
it
was
stated
that
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
were
going
on
this
trip.
However,
it
took
till
tonight
to
have
that
discuss
as
policy
says,
it
needs
to
be
approved
for
the
cost.
So
I
don't
understand,
there's
so
many
questions
about
this
and
it
may
seem
small
to
some
people,
but
it's
really
something
going
in
the
wrong
direction.
In
my
opinion,
and
obviously
in
many
other
people's
opinion
and
I
I,
don't
want
to
be
someone,
that's
thought
of
as
overreacting.
W
X
Hi
there
and
good
evening,
everyone
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I
might
concern
about.
This
item
is
a
little
different
and
everyone
Lee
lyanna
covered
my
one
of
my
concerns
quite
well.
So
I
want
to
Second
what
she
said.
My
concern
is
more
of
it's
very
easy
to
be
in
a
meeting
if
it's
an
economical
economic
proposal
or
possible
idea,
even
just
an
idea,
it
gets
so
a
nod
in
the
head
could
easily
be
construed
as
an
agreement
to
work
towards
it
it.
X
Official
city
manager
is
a
city
staff
member
where
mayor
is
a
mayor
and
they
it's
all,
it's
known
that
she
requires
council's
approval
and
and
all
that
I,
it
just
seems
a
little
risky,
and
so
my
concerned
requests,
because
I'm
thinking
it'll
most
likely
get
passed
just
because
of
the
majority
Council
and
see
and
see
today
as
of
today,
and
is
how
police
consider
strategies
and
policies
to
prevent
anything
that
might
be
construed
as
an
approval.
X
Like
I
said
a
nod
in
the
head
or
any
you
know,
I'll
look
into
it
or
whatever
just
be
really
careful,
because
you
are
representing
the
city
and
if
you're,
going
on
City
cities
time
on
the
weekend
and
as
is
paid
as
a
staff
member,
your
your
communication
carries
a
lot
of
weight,
and
so
that's
my
concern
more
more
than
anything
yeah
everything
else.
Everybody
else
said
in
terms
of
payment
and
all
that.
X
But
all
that
aside,
that's
a
bigger
concern
for
me:
the
economic
yeah,
what
it
could
be
for
relations
and
with
that
said
of
precedent
to
other
other
countries
of
how
to
do
business
with
Cupertino
type
of
thing.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
You
very
much
and
I
would
like
to
bring
this
back
close.
The
public
comment,
Bernice
back
to
council
actually
I,
know
council,
member
Chao
has
his
lights
up,
but
I
would
like
to
speak
a
little
bit
to
this
item.
First
Okay,
so
I
want
to
say
a
little
bit
about
being
a
city
manager.
A
A
We
are
going
to
celebrate
the
students
in
the
last
two
days,
but
the
first
few
days
we
are
going
to
visit,
meet
the
Mayors,
the
vice
Mayors
and
their
staff,
and
in
Taiwan
and
a
lot
of
they
are
very
serious
about
it.
We
are
going
to
meet
four
or
five
staff,
not
just
the
mayor
and
their
economic
develop.
The
advice
mayor
are
going
to
be
there.
What
they
want
to
talk
to
the
delegation
is
not
just
about
actually
students,
not
just
about
student
change.
They
want
to
talk
about
education
in
exchange.
A
They
want
to
talk
about
Economic
Development.
They
want
to
talk
a
lot
of
things.
So
when
I
heard
Pamela
was
invited,
I
was
very
excited
and
where
I
came
from
Taiwan,
they
value
they're
really
excited
too
I
know
the
mayor
of
Shinju
is
very
excited
because
both
of
us
grew
up
in
type
in
Taiwan,
and
this
is
the
connection
just
right
there.
A
So
I
am
very
excited
because
I
think
our
city
manager
in
this
trip
will
make
connections
not
just
with
our
friendship,
City
and
sister
city
and
xinjiu
sister
city,
but
with
board
members
with
cusd,
with
free
money,
High
School
District,
with
Foothill
De
Anza.
This
is
what
our
city
manager
needs
to
do,
not
just
stay
in
the
city
and
doing
our
own
things,
but
also
get
out
in
the
community.
Be
part
of
the
community.
Make
connections
so
that
our
city
can
collaborate
can
really
make
progress
and
work
together.
That's
why
I'm
very
excited
about
this?
A
Okay.
I
understand
it's
not.
This
is
the
first
time
a
city
I
don't
know.
Actually
this
is
my
first
time
on.
My
sister
is
traveling
okay,
but
when
we
talk
about
sister
city
trip,
I
am
not
a
chaperone
city
manager
is
not
a
shop
around
all
the
adult
delegates
that
going
with
this
trip
from
cusd
Fremont,
Union,
High,
School,
District
and
food
ideas
that
we're
not
chaperones.
We
are
there
to
meet
Mayors
to
meet
Vice
Mayors
to
meet
cities
to
really
talk
with
City
officials
in
Taiwan.
A
Our
last
part
in
xinju
is
to
celebrate
the
students
in
their
farewell
party,
but
this
is
part
of
it
is
really
a
a
trip
to
make.
Connections
with
City
governments
and
also
economic
development
is
part
of
the
Talk
education
exchange
is
part
of
the
talk.
Enhancing
Mandarin
learning
in
the
U.S
is
a
part
of
the
talk,
so
I
want
to
clarify
that
we
are
not
chaperones.
A
So
this
is
really
not
a
trip
to
chaperone
the
kids,
and
what
else
I
want
to
say
is
I
understand
everybody's,
very
supportive
of
me
going,
but
I
am
very
supportive
of
city
manager.
Who's
going
because
not
many
city
managers
grew
up
in
Taiwan,
so
I
know
both
new
Taipei,
City
and
xinju
City's
mayor's
office
are
very
excited
to
receive
both
of
us
and
so
and
they,
our
assistant
city,
is
representative
Angela
Chen
just
made
connections
with
National
chengda
University
of
their
economic,
their.
A
L
Definitely
I
fully
support
all
the
sister
and
friendship
CT
programs,
which
is
meant
to
encourage
community
volunteers,
to
support
them
to
communicate
with
and
support
our
community
organizations
to
do
culture
and
other
exchange
ways.
There
are
counterparts
in
another
country
and
that
the
city
manager
can
communicate
with
our
community
leaders
right
here
in
Cupertino,
and
they
these
volunteers
can
go
and
council
members
can
go
to
another
country,
so
it
turns
right
now
it
seems
right
now.
L
The
purpose
is
economic
development,
but
this
item
has
never
been
on
the
console
agenda
and
in
each
work
program
item
usually
we
would
attach
staff
hours
for
that
item.
If,
This,
Were,
A,
work,
program,
item
I,
would
estimate
the
cost
for
a
city
manager.
One
day
is
about
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
including
salary
and
benefits,
and
the
six
work
days.
That's
seven.
Nine
thousand
dollars
total
the
setting
that
aside.
L
Even
if
the
purpose
is
economic
development,
when
did
we
have
any
discussion
about
which
cities
or
countries
the
city
should
be
forming
this
relationship
with
before
it's
determined
the
it
seems
single-handedly
that
we
will
do
that
in
Taiwan.
What
if
next
time
Japan
invites
the
manager
she
will
then
go
spend
another
week
there
with
our
pets
takes
payer
dollars.
L
We
hired
the
city
manager
to
run
Cupertino
city
in
Cupertino.
Any
economical
development
opportunities
should
rely
on
expertise,
experts
who
are
in
economic
development
in
exchanging
with
other
countries,
city
manager,
that
expertise
is
to
run
the
city
government,
and
we
need
the
manager
to
be
right
here,
especially
on
she's
still
new,
and
we
are
doing
a
very
important
budget.
So
I
would
like
to
still
ask
what
official
City
business
is
there
in
Taiwan?
L
It
seems
today
last
minute
there
is
this
one
visit
that
can
count
as
economic
development
that
would
justify
the
whole
trip.
This
should
have
been
discussed
a
year
ago
three
months
ago,
and
the
council
should
have
a
discussion
about
what
how
we
want
to
spend
the
city
manager
time
in
Economic
Development.
If
any.
A
H
Y
H
M
Okay,
thank
you,
council,
member
ciao,
for
mentioning
Economic
Development,
because
we
did
have
an
economic
development
committee
codified.
Last
year
we
interviewed
everyone
for
that
and
and
then
this
this
Council
abolished
it
so
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
what
now?
M
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
the
that
this
is
a
chaperone
trip
chaperoned
by
other
individuals,
and
that
the
last
two
days
of
the
trip
will
be
spent
with
the
with
the
actual
delegation,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
many
days
this
trip
is
council,
member,
Chow,
Would,
You
Do,
you
happen
to
have
that
number
off
the
top
of
your
head.
A
A
M
Thank
you
mayor
way,
so
you're
spending
only
two
days
with
the
student
delegation,
but
the
staff
report,
the
staff
report,
so
you
would
be
with
them
for
their
farewell
party
and
the
staff
report
is
indicating
that
you're
actually
leading
the
the
delegation,
but
that's
not
really
true,
if
you're
only
going
to
be
with
them
for
their
farewell
at
the
end,
and
so
what
it
tends
to
look
like
is
that
you'll
be
spending
a
number
of
days
just
on
your
own,
a
little
bit
of
concern
with
regards
to
the
cultural
exchange
when
you're
visiting
your
home
cities-
and
you
know
and
I
thought
of
this
in
terms
of
myself
and
if
I
were
to
be
going
back
to
my
home
state
and
were
that
you
know
I
had
a
sister
city,
there
would
I
feel
comfortable
sitting
here
asking
for
this
city
to
pay
for
me
to
go
back
to
my
own
home
state
and
I.
M
A
Just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
it
we're
not
on
our
own.
We
have
a
full
itinerary
on
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday
and
Friday,
and
is
to
visit
the
Friendship
City,
the
sister
city
and
also
the
delegation.
So
it's
a
combination
of
meeting
with
public
officials
and
then
ended
up
with
the
students,
because
we
are
not
chaperones,
they
have
their
their
home
staying,
they
have
chaperones.
We
are
the
adult
delegation
to
work
with
to
meet
with
our
the
governments.
Actually.
N
When
I
saw
this
item
on
the
agenda,
my
first
question
was:
why
is
it
even
on
the
agenda
we
are
asking
for?
The
staff
report
asks
for
20
20
0
to
be
transferred
from
one
account
to
another.
N
I
would
hope
that
someone
at
the
level
of
city
managers,
the
highest
paid
administrative
person
in
the
in
the
city
would
have
the
authority
to
transfer
two
thousand
dollars
from
an
account
which
has
the
funds
to
to
the
travel,
so
I
was
actually
disappointed.
That
was,
this
was
even
on
the
agenda
and
that
disappointment,
as
I
has
actually
been
enhanced.
During
this
discussion
of
the
last
45
minutes,
people
talked
about
the
Optics
being
bad
about
two
thousand
dollars
being
spent
I.
N
Think
the
Optics
of
spending
45
minutes
discussing
every
hour
of
every
day,
of
the
travel
that
mayor,
Ray
and
city
the
city
manager
are
doing.
That
is
pretty
bad,
Optics,
wise
I've,
nothing
else
to
say
other
than
if
we
have
so
much
distrust
and
mistrust
of
the
sister
city
program
and
the
people
that
these
cities
in
in
white
officials
do-
and
maybe
we
should
just
abandon
the
program
all
together,
but
to
be
worrying
about
every
single
hour
and
every
single
day
of
the
people
who
go
is
just
a
horrendous
waste
of
time.
K
So
I'll
Echo,
most
of
what
vice
mayor
Mohan
just
said,
and
just
for
the
sake
of
clarity
here,
the
the
funds
otherwise
are
coming
from
the
city
manager,
conference
and
meeting
budget.
Is
that
correct.
O
K
As
I
see
it,
then
this
looks
like
it's
intended
as
a
fringe
benefit
and
I,
don't
see
why
we
should
have
to
be
authorizing
a
separate
payment,
a
separate
amount
for
us
for
you
to
be
able
to
use
what
is
effectively
your
own
money.
This
just
seems
very
strange
any
peculiarity
of
the
way
that
we've
crafted
the
sister
city
program
policy,
yeah
I,
agree
with
the
vice
mayor.
That
seems
like
a
gigantic
waste
of
time.
A
L
Take
two
minutes:
yeah.
Okay,
so
here
is
a
policy
that
specifically
says
any
any
payment
for
City
staff
has
to
be
authorized
in
advanced
by
the
city
council
travel
expenses
for
the
city
manager
usually
is
for
conferences,
professional
conferences
not
for
individual
Economic
Development.
Otherwise,
the
city
manager
could
be
traveling
to
New,
York
or
any
cities.
She
wants
just
to
develop
Economic,
Opportunity
and
per
the
policy.
L
The
city's
manager's
travel
expense
was
never
meant
for
international
travel
and
never
meant
for
economic
development,
and
if
the
mayor
is
going
to
be
conducting
official
City
business
on
economical
development
for
any
country,
the
council
should
have
a
discussion
first
on
what
kind
of
opportunity
which
country,
and
is
it
worse
us
to
spend
six
days
of
city
manager
time
to
perform
this
opportunity.
When
did
we
have
that
that
discussion?
Never
and
I
did
not
request
for
this
item
to
be
put
on
today's
agenda.
L
K
A
I
think
everyone
has
expressed
still
discussions
and
we
are
I
think
you
are.
We
are.
B
Point
of
order,
I,
believe
council
member
Chow
has
already
spoken
to
this.
We
actually
have
important
business
to
attend
to
in
closed
session
tonight
that,
in
contrast
to
what's
being
done
now,
which
has
simply
kind
of
embarrassing
to
be
up
here.
Listening
to
this.
A
Council
Council
reports
and
comments
I
believe
it
starts
with
city
managers
report.
O
A
I
think
we
did,
we
did
we,
oh
I
apologize
I
thought.
No.
We
moved
and
seconded
oh
I
move
the
recombinant
action
to
approve
the
recommended
action.
Do
I
have
a
second
I.
A
Second,
my
friend,
thank
you.
Cto
Kurt
keep
us
let's
vote
again
by
light.
A
Z
A
C
Mayor
Stanley
Young
has
his
hand
raised
welcome
Stanley.
Y
I
wanted
to
say
good
afternoon
earlier
that
it's
been
a
long
long
evening.
So
now
I
will
say
good
evening,
honorable
mayor
and
vice
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Stanley
young,
with
ifpte
Local
21,
representing
Cupertino
employees
and
the
cea
bargaining
unit.
I
am
asking
you
to
consider
investing
in
the
city's
greatest
asset,
which
are
the
city
employees,
who
provide
great
public
service
to
your
constituents
who
elected
you.
We
know
that
there
is
difficult
economic
news
with
the
audit
that
the
city
is
facing.
Y
That
being
said,
we
hope
that
there
are
reasonable
Solutions,
like
a
payment
plan
similar
to
student
loans
or
mortgage
or
car
payment,
and
also
using
the
reserves
to
tackle
this
economic
problem
that
the
city
faces
I'm
concerned
about
the
morale
and
how
that
can
impact
retention
of
great
employees.
With
this
economic
news,
therefore,
I
am
requesting,
on
behalf
of
the
employees
I
represent
for
city
council
to
provide
direction
to
the
city's
negotiating
team.
That
includes
a
fair
cost
of
living
increases
to
make
sure
that
our
members
can
afford
to
live
and
work
in
the
South.
Y
Bay
I
also
want
to
say
that
it's
been
nice
to
meet
Pamela,
Wu
and
also
work
with
Christopher
Boucher,
the
city's
attorney,
and
we
hope
to
continue
a
good
collaborative
relationship
with
this
city.
It's
not
in
the
Union's
interest
to
be
part
of
bankrupting
the
city.
So
if
we
ask
for
fair
and
moderate
wage
increases,
that
is
to
make
sure
that
we
can
provide
the
services
that
make
the
city
run
and
the
people
that
I
represent
are
behind
that.
Y
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Madison
clerk.
If
anyone
in
the
public
would
like
to
speak,
I'll
open
up
to
that
too,
if
not,
I
am
going
to
close
this
session
and
we're
going
into
a
closed
session,
and
we
will
report
back
after
the
closed
session
from
conference
C
right.
B
Thank
you.
If
anybody
else
wants
to
comment
on
the
closed
session
items,
there
will
be
a
an
opportunity
in
conference,
room
C,
all.