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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - July 7, 2022 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the Tuesday, July 7, 2022 Cupertino City Council Meeting (Part 2 of 2)
A
Number
14.
item
number
14
has
to
do
with
ordinances
and
action
items.
That
is
the
consideration
of
conducting
a
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
amending
municipal
code,
chapter
2.84
related
to
our
environmental
review
committee.
This
was
continued
from
june
21st.
Our
presenter
for
item
number
14
is
chris
jensen.
Our
city
attorney
welcome
chris.
A
B
B
We
are
now
okay,
great,
so
thank
you.
So
as
the
mayor's
introduction
mentioned,
this
is
an
ordinance
to
amend
chapter
2.84
of
the
municipal
code
and
that
that
ordinance
establishes
the
environmental
review
committee
it
was
initially
adopted
in
1990
has
been
amended
one
or
two
times
since
then,
and
the
the
the
function
of
the
environmental
review
committee
is
to
review
discretionary
projects
that
are
not
categorically
exempt
to
determine
if
an
eir
is
required
for
the
project
and
the
current
composition
of
the
committee
you'll
see
on
the
screen.
B
So
this
this
agenda
item
addresses
that
first
bullet
point
of
the
referral
and
there
the
the
proposed
ordinance
is
included
in
your
agenda
packet,
and
the
recommended
action
here
is
to
adopt
that
ordinance
and
approve
and
and
approve
modifying
the
composition
of
the
environmental
review
committee
to
commit
consists
of
two
council
members
and
one
planning,
commissioner,
and
I
will
be
available
for
any
questions
after
council
takes
public
comment.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
chris
and
we'll
take
that
public
comment.
We
have
two
hands
raised
from
public
one
from
connie
cunningham,
one
from
jennifer
and
now
one
from
gr,
fruin
I'll
remind
our
members,
the
public
that
you'll
need
to
have
your
hand
raised
after
the
first
person
is
done
speaking
in
order
to
be
heard
on
this
item,
and
then
that
also
goes
for
people
that
are
emailing
in
comments
to
city
clerk
at
cupertino.org.
A
C
Okay,
good
evening,
mayor
paul,
council,
members
and
city
manager,
I
am
connie
cunningham
a
34-year
resident
and
housing
commissioner,
but
speaking
for
myself
only.
I
think
it
is
not
a
good
idea
to
make
this
change
to
the
erc.
Also.
I
recommend
that
all
erc
meetings
be
on
video
recordings,
as
are
city
council
and
planning
commissions.
These
meetings
touch
on
many
aspects
of
the
city
and
decisions
will
impact
the
timing
and
the
cost
of
projects.
C
I
attended
an
erc
meeting
on
may
19th
agenda
item
number
two
addressed
a
mitigated:
negative
declaration
on
a
property
that
proposed
to
add
a
few
homes.
The
recommended
action
was
for
the
erc
to
consider
the
amd
as
the
appropriate
environmental
review
document
for
that
project.
I
took
notes
of
what
I
heard
that
morning
planning
commissioner
scharf
asked
what
the
justification
was
for
not
doing
more
soil
samples
around
the
whole
site.
He
was
advised
that
staff
had
followed
professional
written
guidance.
Commissioner
scharf
was
not
convinced
with
that
answer.
C
He
stated
that
he
thought
the
borings
may
have
been
done
in
such
a
way
to
avoid
finding
contamination.
That
was
a
bold
and
shocking
assertion.
I
thought
councilmember
moore
said
she
would
prefer
an
updated
eir.
She
asked
several
questions
and
stated
her
opinion
that
the
site
description
was
not
accurate.
The
property
owner
answered
the
questions
supporting
the
documentation
council
member
moore
said
she
would
perform
more
testing.
The
outside
panelist
nick
papani
from
rainy
planning
stated
that
the
mnd
would
be
appropriate
even
with
additional
soil
sampling.
C
C
The
motion
was
made
that
the
mnd
is
appropriate
with
direction
to
do
additional
soil
testing
and
any
additional
work.
Before
going
to
planning
commission,
there
was
a
big
discussion
about
samples
all
over
the
property
or
following
written
guidance.
Commissioner
scharf
and
councilmember
moore
both
stated
that
they
do
not
excuse
me
trust
any
judgment
driven
choice
of
sites.
A
substitute
motion
by
councilmember
moore
was
that
this
item
be
continued.
C
C
The
first
motion
went
over
the
substitute,
the
first
motion
being
to
accept
the
mnd
with
doing
some
extra
work,
as
had
been
described,
given
the
opinions
that
commissioner
scharf
and
councilmember
moore
do
not
trust
experts
in
the
field
or
the
processes
by
which
environmental
decisions
are
made
by
other
agencies,
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
more
people
in
the
loop,
especially
experienced
staff,
because
this
included
the
vice
chair
and
the
director
of
public
works
met.
C
A
D
D
It
has
I've
been
going
to
the
meetings,
probably
since
2003
right
after
we
annexed,
and
there
have
always
been
at
least
five
members
there
of
staff
and
various
different
city
council
planning,
commission,
etc,
and
you
know
that
spans
a
good
time,
that's
20
years
and
I
actually
sat
through
the
environmental
review
committee
for
the
entire
apple
project
of
the
campus
too.
D
That
went
through
I've
been
through
several
balco
pre
pre-valco,
the
previous
owner,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
you
want
to
make
up
the
composition,
but
I
think
there
needs
to
be
at
least
five
people,
and
I
I
think
I
know
staff
may
not
consider
this
to
be
something
that
they
should
be
involved
with.
I
can
understand
that,
but
I
do
think
that
since
they're,
especially
in
the
apple
campus
ii
situation,
there
was
a
lot
of
input
from
public
works,
etc.
On
this
it
was
a
big
project.
D
You
can
have
small
projects,
you
can
have
big
projects,
but
when
you
come
to
voting
on
things
like
this,
having
more
people
is
better.
You
get
and-
and
I
I
think
it
is
very-
I
know
connie
had
mentioned-
that
people
had
questioned.
I,
I
don't
remember,
I'm
trying
to
think
what
this
at
this
erc
meeting
was
a
couple
months
ago,
but
people
need
to
ask
questions.
D
We
have
a
new
housing
bill
for
ab
2011
by
buffy
wicks,
which
is
attempting
to
allow
construction
in
commercial
zones
by
right
ministerially
without
using
squa,
and
it
scares
the
living
daylights
out
of
me.
We
have
tech
parks
that
have
contamination
in
them.
My
brother
worked
at
a
site
in
the
1970s,
which
is
now
a
super
fun
site
in
mountain
view.
So
I,
however,
you
make
your
composition.
D
We
need
at
least
four
to
five
people
and
a
better
mix
is
a
better
mix.
But
to
me
I
I
will
say
right
now.
I
am
glad
that
when
we
were
doing
the
apple
campus
2,
we
did
not
have
this
onslaught
of
housing
bills.
Because
to
me
the
housing
bills
are
muddying
the
water.
They
are
trying
to
override
local
control,
which
is
the
heart
of
enviro.
It
is
protecting
residents
of
this
state
from
environmental
damage
and
contamination.
D
So
the
more
eyes
you
have
on
the
erc
committee,
the
better
yes
cupertino-
may
be
one
of
the
few
cities
that
have
something
like
this.
But
I'm
a
firm
believer
that
there
was
a
reason
that
our
forefathers
in
the
city
do
something
like
this.
And
maybe
we
need
to
go
back
and
look
at
it.
But
I
I
am
glad
to
be
in
cupertino,
because
we
are
one
of
the
best
cities
we
take
pains
and
we
examine
and
the
hard
questions
will
then
be
answered.
E
E
Experienced
professionals
in
the
field
who
constantly
deal
with
subject
matter
relevant
to
sequa
will
provide
more
consistent
decisions
over
time
and,
by
contrast,
the
expertise
of
council
members
and
their
appointees
will
vary
dramatically
over
time.
So
reconstituting
the
erc
entirely
with
elected
officials
and
their
political
appointees
risks
transforming
what
is
a
very
and
highly
technical
determination
of
this
particular
committee
into
a
politically
motivated
one,
one,
that's
governed
by
who
happens
to
be
on
the
city
council
at
any
given
time,
one
that's
correspondingly
more
open
to
corruption
and
to
arbitrary
and
capricious
decisions.
E
I'd
also
underscore
that
risk
for
making
the
incorrect
choice
to
impose
a
full
environmental
impact
report
when
the
record
supports
a
mitigated.
Negative
declaration
would
also
rise
if
ab2656
passes
in
its
current
form.
Under
that
bill.
Imposing
a
full
eir
process
on
certain
housing
projects,
otherwise
eligible
for
an
mnd,
would
trigger
the
remedies
and
penalties
available
under
the
housing.
Accountability
act
that
bill
sailed
through
the
assembly
on
a
68-3
vote
and
it
has
passed
all
its
senate
policy
committees.
It
looks
like
it's
on
a
sheer
and
clear
path
to
passage.
E
A
A
G
Yes,
I
have
a
couple
questions.
I've
been
reading.
The
packages
actually
was
on
the
agenda
last
time
we
didn't
get
to
it.
So
this
on
the
agenda
again
today
and
if,
if
I
may,
it
looks
like
all
the
other
cities
who
have
an
eri,
you
know
committee,
they
actually
are
consists
of
staff,
with
expertise
among
cities
and
counties
in
california
that
have
committees
with
the
jurisdiction
focused
on
environmental
review
process.
The
standard
composition
is
a
committee
of
staff
members
appointed
from
different
departments.
G
G
Council,
members
change
and
you
know,
planning,
commission
or
and
that
you
know
that
has
a
lot
of
consequences
and
without
staff's
expertise,
I'm
afraid.
That's
that's
commit
committee
is
not
going
to
function
very
well,
and
I
do
I
am
and
there's
a
question
for
for
our
city
attorney
that
I
understand
this
could
affect
a
project
whether
you
know
how
deep
the
environmental
impact
report
that
is
a
lot
of
municipal
codes
like
this
is
to
prevent
console
from
being
lobbied
or
council
corruption
with
just
three
people
on
it.
It
really.
G
I
have
a
question
on
that.
What
what
if
you
know
a
council
member
or
two
customers
being
lobbied
or
expanded,
I
think
staff's
expertise
is
very
important
to
this
committee.
So
chris,
I
think
my
my
question,
for
you
is,
if
it's
just
the
three
of
them,
without
will
we
risk
the
committee
members
being
lobbied
or
exploited?
B
So
you
know,
I
think,
that
the
the
risk
of
of
lobbying
I
mean
you
know
or
or
just
the
you
know
in
some
cases
the
reality
of
lobbying
is
is
present
regardless
of
of
the
composition
of
of
the
committee,
but
you
know
certainly
there's
there's.
B
Some
council
members
are
going
to
have
more,
you
know
technical
knowledge
than
others
that
that's
probably
true
among
staff
as
well,
but
but
I
I
see
the
risk
as
lobbying
as
being
present.
You
know,
regardless
of
the
composition
of
the
committee
and
and
the
city,
does
have
disclosure
requirements
for
that
that
mitigate
that
risk
to
a
certain
extent,.
G
Thank
you
to
the
attorney,
so
I
I
am
very
uncomfortable
with
just
three
committee
members
on
this
very
important
committee.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember
way.
Let's
go
to.
Let
me
see
if
there
are
our
other
hands
raised
here,
so
I
I
see
that
vice
mayor
ciao
has
her
hand
raised
and
councilmember
moore.
Did
you
want
to
speak
on
this
vice
mayor,
chow.
H
B
I
B
H
H
Another
question
is,
regardless
of
the
composition.
J
H
K
H
B
Yes,
those
still
apply
so
yeah,
and
so
they
would
get
professional
guidance
from
planning
staff
and,
of
course,
legal
advice
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
H
Okay,
so
it
seems
then
the
concern
regarding
membership
so
and
chris
you
mentioned
that
the
the
current
composition
with
some
council
member
one
council,
member
one
planning,
commission
and
some
staff.
This
is
the
only
committee-
that's
like
that
in
cupertino,
and
you
mentioned
that's
uncommon-
that's
not
recommended
to
clarify
a
bit
well.
G
B
Have
a
an
advisory
body
that
that's
set
up
to
have
both
elected
and
appointed
officials
and
staff
members
on
it.
B
K
J
B
Somewhat
unusual,
but
not
unheard
of
okay,.
H
Committee,
that
means
two
of
the
members.
If
two
council
members,
they
can't
discuss
this
issue,
so
one
possibility
I'm
thinking
is,
it
could
be.
We
can
add
one
member
from
sustainability
commission.
So
it's
a
four
person
committee,
then
two
of
the
members
can
still
might
still
consult
with
each
other
on
certain
issue
results
being
a
quorum.
A
Okay,
thank
you
vice
mayor.
In
terms
of
the
the
the
current
composition
of
our
environmental
review
committee.
We
do
have
a
mix
between
staff
people,
a
council
member
planning,
commissioner,
and
so
if
we
were
to
do
nothing
this
evening
that
that
mixture
of
composition
would
would
maintain
correct.
A
Mr
city
attorney
that's
correct:
okay,
okay
and
then
nothing
stops
us
from
maintaining
that
mixture
between
staff
and
elected
officials
and
an
appointee
correct
I
mean
we
can
add,
for
instance,
the
city
manager
or
the
director
of
planning
or
whatnot
to
the
proposed
three
people
that
are
contemplated
under
this
recommendation
is
that
correct,
yeah.
B
That's
correct,
I
mean
there's
been
a
mixture
of
of
staff
and
and
appointed
and
elected
officials
since
1990,
so
right.
A
Right,
I
I
just
you
know,
I
I
hear
what
people
are
saying
with
regard
to
expertise
and
influence,
but
you
know
the
fact
of
the
matter.
Is
you
know
when
you
become
an
elected
official
and
are
assigned
to
all
these
various
roles?
A
You
essentially
are
taking
on
the
task
of
representation
and
and
decisional
authority
for
any
number
of
items
that
require
expertise
to
understand
and
there's
that
fundamental
role
of
understanding
how
to
use
the
the
experts
that
are
there
and
that's
by
nature.
Why
we
have
recommended
actions
as
well
as
the
preparation
of
various
items
on
an
agenda
by
by
professional
staff
people.
So
you
know,
I
see
that
as
a
something
that's
implicated
in
virtually
every
item
that
you
run
across
in
the
public
process.
A
But
you
know
one
thing
I
will
say
as
the
original
maker
of
the
motion
in
february,
I
did
have
as
the
intent,
perhaps
that
wasn't
necessarily
communicated
in
the
in
the
ultimate
language
of
the
motion
or
how
it
was
being
interpreted
simply
to
change
the
composition
of
the
five
by
adding
a
council
member
and
and
essentially
taking
one
of
the
staff
people
and
having
the
utility
of
their
expertise,
but
not
necessarily
putting
them
on
the
committee
as
a
voting
member.
So
so
that
was
my
intent
in
putting
this
together.
A
I
didn't
contemplate
this
having
fewer
people,
I
actually
contemplated
it
having
the
identical
amount
of
people,
and
you
know
having
been
on
the
environmental
review
committee
multiple
years
in
the
past.
I
feel
that
having
representatives
from
the
public
and
having
a
couple
of
the
electeds
as
well
as
appointed
you
know,
presumably
when
you
appoint
a
planning.
A
Commissioner,
there
is
you
know,
an
interview
process
and
with
regard
to
taking
a
look
at
what
the
corpus
of
the
work
and
experience
is
there
there's
at
least
that
kind
of
experience
with
planning,
and
when
I,
when
I
was
evaluating
the
the
nature
of
the
communication
and
the
dialogue
over
time,
it
just
seemed
to
me
that
there
would
be
more
of
a
representative
perspective
from
the
public
if
we
were
to
add
another
council
member
there,
and
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
were
to
enhance
quality
of
the
discussion,
and
it
is
true
and
honestly,
I
sometimes
get
frustrated.
A
You
know
with
you
know
the
the
granularity
of
our
our
discussions.
But
but
in
the
end,
when
I
step
back,
I'm
I'm
also
very
grateful
for
the
ability
to
have
this
kind
of
conversation
with
colleagues
on
an
ongoing
basis
for
many
of
our
items.
So
I
would
expect
that
this
would
foster
better
discussion.
A
Frankly,
and
if
we
were
to
translate
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
as
a
council
over
time,
we
would
be
able
to
actually
kind
of
motivate
more
of
this
thorough
examination,
because
a
lot
of
times,
if
you
feel
that
you
know
there
hasn't
been
necessarily
as
much
examination.
I
also
actually
you
know
to
speak
to
the
member
of
the
public.
That's
that
was
reciting.
You
know
kind
of
a
litany
of
actions
that
had
taken
place
in
the
former
prior
erc
meeting.
I
actually
listened
on
that
erc
meeting
as
well.
A
I
didn't
participate,
of
course,
but
I
thought
there
were
some
really
good
points
raised
right.
I
mean
just
in
terms
of
the
you
know
the
the
need
to
evaluate
areas
that
you
know.
Perhaps
hadn't
been
looked
at
as
thoroughly
and
if
you
looked
at
the
various
details,
some
of
the
usages
of
this
space
had
been
quite
possibly
along
the
lines
of
things
that
would
introduce
environmental
contaminants,
and
so
I
think
I
you
you
know
personally,
I'm
comfortable
with
re-examining
the
composition
and
I'd
be
happy
to.
A
If
that
were
the
majority
sentiment,
add
a
couple
of
our
our
staff
members
in
as
part
of
the
committee
in
the
immediate
conversation,
but
I
I
think
we
have
at
our
at
our
resources.
You
know,
in
addition
to
staff,
you
know
consultants
as
well
that
the
erc
can
continue
to
to
draw
upon,
and
so
I
see,
councilman
moore
with
a
hand
raised
councilmember
moore.
Would
you
like
to
weigh
in
on
this
at
this
point.
I
I
There
had
never
been
a
training
session
for
the
erc
members,
and
that
was
something
that
I
requested
and
we
had
implemented
because
our
our
chief
role
is
to
weigh
in
on
whether
an
mnd
or
or
a
negative
declaration
or
an
eir
would
be
the
appropriate
sql
document
for
for
a
project,
and
so
we
we
had.
I
Actually
the
attorneys
came
in
and
provided
a
kind
of
a
tutorial
and
then
we
later
on,
they
provided
that
also
for
some
of
the
members
of
council
as
well,
and
it
was
very
helpful
but
that
that
year
we
had
a
discussion
about
what
the
erc
could
look
at,
because
there
were
some
questions
about.
Can
we
look
at
projects
outside
of
cupertino,
such
as
as
as
lehigh
or
what?
If
there's
a,
really
large
project
on
one
of
our
neighboring
cities?
I
That's
coming
in
it's
going
to
impact
us,
so
the
original
idea
to
was
to
change
the
scope
of
the
erc
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
look
at
these
projects
which
impact
the
city
which,
otherwise
we
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
that
there
just
wasn't
a
mechanism
to
and
that
we
could
recommend
to
council
that
you
would
if
there
was
a
large
project-
and
you
saw
some
environmental
impacts
that
were
of
concern
that
because
we
were
essentially
more
interested
as
a
as
a
body
in
those
topics
that
we
could
recommend
to
council
that
let
her
be
written
to
address
these
things
which
we
had
seen.
I
So
that
was
that
was
kind
of
the
start
of
it.
And
it
wasn't
to
my
knowledge.
It
wasn't
a
recommendation
or
suggestion
to
to
change
the
composition.
At
that
point,
it
was
simply
to
change
what
we
were
going
to
be
looking
at
and,
as
time
has
moved
on,
there
was
there
was
a
meeting
gosh.
I
think
it
was
last
year
where
some
of
staff
wanted
to
change
the
the
composition
of
the
erc,
and
that's
where
that
discussion
turned
from.
I
Let's
see
what
the
scope
is
and
to
let's
change
who's
on
it
and
removes
remove
staff
so
that
so
that
that
changed
and
then,
if
you
do
look
historically
at
what
the
erc
has
done
for
actions.
If
you
look,
for
instance,
the
the
erc
review
of
the
the
valco
eir
back
in
2018,
it
was
that
was
not
a
matter
of
looking
into
the
mnd
and
eir.
It
was
actual
review
of
the
eir.
I
So
I
thought
that
was
an
action
which
is
not
since,
since
I've
been
on
the
committee,
we
have
us
been
very
strictly
following
the
municipal
code
for
what
our
duties
are.
I
So
when
this
erc
suggestion
came
about-
and
I
saw
it
on
the
agenda,
I
was
quite
surprised
to
see
the
three-person
committee
suggestion
and
I
felt
that
it
was.
It
was
too
few
and
I
there
was.
There
were
comments
from
the
public
that
I'm
not
sure
I'm
kind
of
allowed
to
address
under
under
the
circumstances
here.
I
But
with
regards
to
the
mcclellan
project,
I
would
direct
the
public
to
look
at
the
images
and
read
the
whole
report
and
consider
the
statements
which
were
made
and,
for
instance,
regarding
where
there
was
it
was
said
that
there
was
impervious
areas.
I
If
you
look
at
the
photograph,
if
you
go
visit
the
site,
you
can
tell
that
it's
it's
clearly
the
the
pavement's
worn
away,
it's
it's,
no
longer
impervious
those
those
sorts
of
things
and
and
there
was
an
underground
storage
tank
which
was
removed
without
any
documentation,
and
we
can
also
look
at,
for
example,
the
importance
of
having
residents
and
and
and
council
members.
I
Putting
another
set
of
eyes
on
these
documentation
is
is
part
of
why
valco
is
is
having
the
the
the
mitigations
and
remediation
that
they
are
is
because
people
have
taken
the
time
to
go.
Read
these
documents
and
question,
and
the
reason
is,
is
that
we
have
an
obligation
to
protect
the
health
and
the
safety
and
the
welfare
of
the
residents
and
the
construction
workers
and
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
on
these
these
sites
and-
and
it
is
something
to
be
taken
seriously.
I
So
when
members
of
the
public
are
suggesting
corruption,
I
would
really
hope
that
you
consider
what
you
are
suggesting
pretty
pretty
carefully.
I
So,
with
regards
to
the
three
members
of
the
erc,
I
do
think
that's
too
few,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
the
changed
composition,
whether
it's
a
three
two
with
council
members
and
planning,
commissioner,
and
a
couple
of
staff
members
or
flipped
over
the
other
way.
It's
it
with
regards
to
this
particular
project.
That
was
mentioned
with
the
with
the
auto
storage,
barn
and
the
dirt
floor,
and
all
that
and
not
not
being
not
persuading
the
majority
to
request
more
soil
testing
it.
I
Have
it
understood,
though,
the
way
the
process
works
is
that
that
that
report
will
next
go
to
the
planning
commission,
and
you
know
the
question
can
be
raised
again
and
then
it
will
move
on
to
the
the
city
council
and
that
question
can
be
raised
again.
So
we
have
some
checks
and
balances
within
the
system
which
I
think
work
work
very
well.
I
So
this
these
issues,
these
concerns,
will
will
get
vetted
again
to
to
make
sure
like
I
said
that
the
health
and
safety
and
the
welfare
of
the
residents
and
the
construction
workers
is,
is
maintained
and
taken.
Care
of.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
councilman
moore
and
vice
mayor
ciao,
you
see
your
hand
is
raised.
At
the
same
time,
I
would
like
to
visit
the
composition
provision
of
the
proposed
code
here.
So
let
me
go
ahead
and
see
if
I
can
share
my
screen
here
before
we
head
back
to
you
vice
versa.
So
I'm
looking
at
the
agenda
packet
here.
A
So
chapter
2
point
84.10
talks
about
the
establishment
of
the
composition.
You
can
see
the
crossouts
over
what
was
the
original
or
what
is
the
current
code.
I
should
say
erc
shall
consist
of
two
council,
or
rather
one
city
council
person.
A
So
so
I
I
think,
essentially,
what
was
being
suggested
was
a
very
slight
tweaking
still
a
five-member
composition,
but
together
with
the
staff
members,
but
essentially,
two
out
of
three
of
the
ones
that
are
designated
so
so
that
was,
you
know
hopefully
clear
enough
now,
in
terms
of
you
know
what
what
what
I
was
contemplating
when
suggesting
this
change.
A
So
at
this
point
let
me
let
me
try
to
propose
a
motion
to
that
effect
and
see
if
there
could
be
a
second
so
based
upon
that
description,
city
attorney
jensen.
Is
that
clear
enough?
With
regard
I
mean
I
I
don't
want
to
word-
submit
the
language
of
the
proposed
code.
Would
it
make
more
sense
to
propose
a
motion
for
this
to
come
back
for
first
reading
later,
because
of
course
we
wouldn't
have
the
you
know
specific
language
unless
you
feel
comfortable,
you.
B
Know
pursuing
that
yeah?
No,
I
would
recommend
having
this
comeback
for
a
first
meeting,
if,
if
council
wants
to
make
give
further
direction
on
on
what
the
composition
of
the
committee
is,
that
should
be
enough
and
I
could
make
conforming
changes
elsewhere
in
the
ordinance.
A
Okay,
okay,
so
so
I
guess
that's
clear
so
so,
let's
see
if
we
can
have
a
second
for
that
as
a
motion
to
provide
staff
direction
accordingly,
and
so
let
me
look
to
vice
versa.
You
had
your
hand
raised.
Would
you
be
willing
to
second
that
for
the
purposes
of
our
further
discussion
at
this
point.
A
Okay,
great,
so
why
don't
I
yield
the
floor
to
you?
I
know
you
had
your
hand
raised
and
wanted
to
further
comment
here.
H
So
I
was
surprised
as
council
member
more
also
because
I
thought
we
I
thought
in
our
study
session.
The
idea
is,
we
would
modify
the
role
of
erc
and
then
I
would
have
liked
to
see
that
erc
is,
should
really
maybe
could
be
renamed
environmental
protection
committee.
It
shouldn't
be
limited
only
to
right
now
it's
all
discretionary
approval
project,
but
as
we
know,
there
are
streamline
the
project
like
velcro
and
then
there
are
state
laws
continuing
to
try
to
waive
ciua
for
projects,
so
waving
squad
does
not
make
the
environmental
impact
go
away.
H
H
It's
a
nominal
member,
okay,
but
I'm
curious
how
come
historically,
it's
a
city
manager
who
may
or
may
not
be
expert
in
your
environmental
issues
and
even
the
designees
on
we
don't
know,
and
public
works
director
may
or
may
not
know
all
the
environmental
code
that
a
project
need
to
comply
with.
So
I
don't
know
whether
there
is
any
knowledge
of
why
the
current
composition
was
chosen.
H
A
You
know
I
I
think
the
person
to
refer
to
that
would
be
our
attorney
to
the
extent
that
you've
done
any
research
on
that
origin
of
the
original
environmental
review
committee
charter.
I
I
I
don't
know
personally
why
it
was
a
hybrid
between
the
elected,
the
appointed,
as
well
as
the
three
staff
members.
B
Yeah,
no,
I
didn't
there's
not
easy
access
to
staff
reports
dating
back
quite
that
far.
So
I
I
didn't
look
at.
I
B
You
know
I
I
did
look
at
the
current.
You
know
current
practices
in
other
jurisdictions
in
california,
and
there
was
nothing
that
I
could
find.
That
was
similar.
H
Interesting,
okay,
so
I
would
hope
this
would
come
back
with
direction
to
actually
modify
the
role
so
that
this
committee
does
not
not
only
the
discretionary
approval
projects
for
eir
purposes.
B
H
If
council,
member
moore,
has
any
suggestion,
I'm
happy
to
entertain.
A
Well,
let
me
go
to
councilmember
william
at
this
time,
who
has
the
hand
raised
and
then
councilmember.
I
believe
that
you
wanted
to
speak
so
councilmember
willie.
L
Thank
you
mayor
for
first,
a
slight
qualifier.
So
since
I
haven't
been
on
the
erc,
I
can't
really
say
I've
seen
or
or
feel
this
or
that
is
directly
needed
a
change,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
to
kind
of
see
all
five
of
us
are
weighing
in
on
these
decisions
that
are
going
to
affect
our
community.
L
If
I
take
it
from
kind
of
the
top
down,
you
know,
or
at
least
how
I
consider
it,
you
know
the
the
importance
of
the
impacts
to
our
community
health
safety.
That
includes
workers.
You
know
things:
contamination,
underground,
tanks,
things
of
that
nature.
L
L
Does
it
need
to
have
two
councilmen?
I'm
not
really
thinking
that
I'm
hearing
enough
evidence
to
make
it
a
change.
The
importance
of
that.
Now
we
look
at
the
other
members
on
the
commission.
You
know
public
works
directors
designee.
I
I
feel
that's
pretty
important.
I'd
also
say:
the
community
development
director's
appointee
is
pretty
important
and
based
on
on
what
I
think
is
relevant
history.
L
When
I've
been
on
subcommittees,
for
which
we
need
city
staff
time,
I've
found
that
if,
if
they're
not
part
of
the
committee,
our
access
to
them
is
significantly
limited
and
the
importance
of
what
we
need
is
not
of
the
same
importance
as
their
their
normal
work,
and
so
I
realize
this
is
a
subcommittee
reference,
but
here
we
are
with
a
particular
task
that
we
feel
is
important
to
the
community.
L
Here's
our
concerns
our
questions.
We
feel
we
need
answers
to.
We
need
staff
to
do
those
types
of
things
and
if
they
are
part
of
the
committee,
I
feel
they're
going
to
be
more
involved
in
getting
those
respective
answers
rather
than
the
delays
that
I've
experienced
in
the
past.
I
realize
that
everybody
is
very
busy,
so
I
I'm
not
wanting
it
to
come
across
wrong.
L
L
I
usually
like
to
be
conservative
until
I
really
have
a
strong
m
feeling
that
a
better
composition
is
is
identified
that
I
think
you
know,
we
don't
necessarily
change
it
at
this
point
in
time.
We
might
request
that
the
staff
go
off
and
reconsider
the
changes.
L
I
think
the
mayor
made
some
very
good
points
tonight
and
if
I'm
not
quite
sure
that
we're
ready
for
something
to
come
back
to
us
for
the
first
reading,
but
maybe
the
staff
goes
off
and
takes
our
our
guidance
and
brings
back
with
what
they
think
would
answer
our
questions
provide
things
more
in
line
with
what
we're
talking
about.
At
that
point,
we
might
be
able
to
say
wow
we're
getting
real,
close,
make
a
few
updates
and
then
bring
it
back
to
us.
For
you
know
the
first
reading.
L
I
just
think
we're
still
too
far
apart.
I
do
feel
this.
A
committee
is
important
for
the
reasons
I
said
initially,
and
so
I
I
think
for
the
most
part,
that's
where
I
would
be
unless
I
hear
more
from
either
the
council
tonight
or
maybe
city
staff
tonight,
that
would
convince
me
to
to
you
know,
send
it
for
update
and
a
first
reading,
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
again,
I'm
I'm
not
with
previous
experience
on
the
erc,
so
I
do
admit
to
that
limitation.
L
A
Thank
you,
okay.
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
for
those
very
thoughtful
remarks.
Councilman
william,
you
know
I
I
will
call
you
councilman
moore,
but
with
regard
to
trying
to
take
the
the
temperature
of
council,
I
think
with
my
seconder,
not
really
as
interested
in
composition
and
more
interested
and
possibly
scope
and
a
couple
of
comments.
Basically
from
our
zoom
participants
on
council,
you
know
kind
of
relaying
some
reservations.
A
You
know
I.
I
think
it
really
does
make
sense
at
this
point
to
essentially
you
know,
pull
this
item
I'll,
go
ahead
and
move
my
motion
off
the
table
and
I
am
hearing
some
really
good
thoughts
on.
You
know
potentially
looking
at
this
again
in
the
future
and
examining
scope,
but
I
think
that
beyond
being
a
very
good
discussion
and-
and
I
think
you
know.
A
Lot
of
valid
points
you
know
being
being
related
here,
and
I
hope
that
we
gave
you
know
some
some
color,
if
you
will
to
the
internal
workings
of
the
environmental
review
committee,
and
you
know
councilmember
moore
when
you
allude
to
your
tutorial
of
environmental
review
committee
duties
and
that
scope.
I
remember
that
very
clearly,
because
I
was
the
council
designee
at
the
time
and
of
course
you
were
the
person
from
the
planning
commission
and
we,
I
think
we.
K
A
A
But
perhaps
this
question
is
not
really
ripe
right
now,
for
certainly
support
on
modifications,
and
so
before
we
move
on
from
it.
Let
me
provide
counselor
more
an
opportunity
to
speak
your
thoughts
and
vice
ver.
Perhaps
you
have
some
thoughts
as
well,
but
my
my
inclination
is
to
table
and.
B
A
With
staff
to
see
you
know
if
there's
something
that
we
can
do
to
be,
perhaps
bringing
back
you
know
in
a
different
format
based
upon
our
discussion
here
tonight,
so
councilmember
moore.
I
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
paul,
and
I
think
that
would
probably
be
a
good
idea.
I
did
just
forward
forward
you
an
email
that
I
had
sent
to
a
previous
mayor
from
in
2019,
so
I
think
you
were
actually
in
the
meeting
with
the
manager
deb
fung
at
that
time,
and
we
were.
I
We
had
a
pretty
good
support
for
the
idea
of
increasing
the
scope,
and
I
do
have
a
quote
so
this
I
wrote
july
12
2019,
but
there's
a
quote
from
our
planning
commission
attorney
that
it
says
at
its
june
20th
that
would
be
2019
meeting.
The
erc
discussed
proposing
some
changes
to
chapter
2.84
of
the
municipal
code,
which
establishes
the
erc
to
add
procedural
guidelines
and
grant
the
erc
the
power
to
make
recommendations
to
the
council
on
any
project
that
could
impact
the
city
or
its
residents
while
as
a
threshold
matter.
I
Such
changes
would
be
within
the
council's
power
to
adopt,
with
the
caveat
that
the
city
attorney
office
would
need
to
review
any
such
proposed
changes
before
council's
consideration.
Chapter
2.84
does
not
give
the
erc
the
power
to
recommend
changes
to
the
municipal
code.
Thus,
if
you
as
chair
of
the
erc,
want
to
ask
the
mayor
or
the
planning
commission
chair
to
bring
these
proposed
amendments
to
their
bodies
for
consideration,
you
could
do
so,
although
this
request
should
come
from
an
individual
erc
member
etc.
I
So
I
I
did
get
make
the
request,
and
so,
as
you
know,
as
time
has
gone
on
it's
it's,
it's
now
modified
to
not
scope
but
who's
who's
on
it,
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
good
item
to
to
bring
back
and
and
think
about.
That's
the
scope
there
and
and
really
at
issue
is
you.
I
You
want
people
who
are
interested
in
the
topic
that
will
go
and
read
into
these
environmental
documents
and
and
want
to
make
some
comments
so
that
that
was
the
idea
and
with
regards
to
lehigh-
and
I
you
know
it's
just
something
we
can
talk
about-
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
provide,
provide
us
with
with
a
benefit
or
or
not,
but
with
regards
to
lehigh.
There
is
an
expected
eir
that
they
were
supposed
to
have
produced,
which
is
kind
of
stalled
off,
so
that
there
is
a
document
supposedly
that
that's
moving
along.
I
That
could
be
reviewed
by
the
by
the
erc
if
the
scope
was
changed.
Also,
one
thing:
that's
kind
of
unusual
about
the
erc
when
you,
when
you
very
strictly
look
at
what's
in
the
municipal
code,
is
that
we
we
simply
make
a
choice,
a
a
a
a
determination
for
the
mitigated,
negative
declaration,
which
is
that
there
are
significant
impacts,
but
they
can
be
mitigated,
whereas
so
there
is
going
to
be
mitigation.
Whereas
if
you
have
an
environmental
impact
report
and
go
the
eir
route,
you
can
have
significant
unavoidable
impacts.
That
cannot.
B
I
B
Advice
a
brief
point
of
view:
yes,
city
attorney
general
yeah,
so
I
just
wanted
to
to
remind
the
council
that
that
second
part
of
the
motion
that
council
adopted
in
february
was
to
bring
the
scope
back
after
the
committee
is
reconstituted.
So.
H
A
Okay,
so
so,
just
just
to
clarify
chris,
the
the
non-changing
of
the
composition
doesn't
preclude
the
second
part
from
coming
back
right.
Basically,.
B
Sorry,
maybe
I
misspoke
dude
but
for
the
council
actually
referred
it
to
the
committee,
but
but
but
if
the
fir,
if
the
first
step
of
modifying
the
composition
of
the
committee
doesn't
happen,
then
I
I
you
know.
A
Right,
okay,
I
remember
you
know,
and
I
think
the
logic
was
basically
it's
going
to
be
easier
to
reconsider
the
scope
of
the
committee.
If
you
know,
essentially,
you
had
two
publicly
elected
officials
and
one
of
their
appointees,
whereas
you
know
there
might
be
a
little
bit
of
inertia
from
an
internal.
You
know
staff-based
perspective,
to
kind
of
expand
that
scope
because
of
you
know
various
reasons,
but.
A
A
Right
right,
okay,
vice
mayor,
I'm
trying
to
be
assiduous
of
time,
you
know,
and
just
from
a
purely
you
know,
kind
of
selfish
perspective.
I
like
I'd
like
us,
to
try
to
wrap
around
11
if
possible
today,
and
so
I
I
do
ask
that
you
keep
your
your
final.
D
A
Succinct
here
so.
H
A
B
H
B
Mentioned
earlier,
if,
if
you
wanted
to
include
it
as
on
a
list
of
future
agenda
items,
either
the
mayor
or
to.
H
B
A
Okay,
great
well
thanks
very
much
good
discussion.
Let's
go
on
to
item
number
15
at
this
time.
Item
number
15
has
to
do
with
economic
development
committee,
and
so
here
we're
not
challenged
with
the
current
charter
composition,
because,
frankly,
there
is
none.
So
the
subject
in
full
is
consideration
of
municipal
code
amendments
to
the
cupertino
municipal
code,
title
ii
to
add
chapter
2.96
and
codify
the
economic
development
committee.
I
understand
that
we
have
I'm
sorry
councilman.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
so
so
let
me
let
me
go
back
to
the
announcement
of
the
item,
so
so
the
presenter
from
our
staff
is
tina.
Kapoor
economic
development
manager-
and
let
me
see
if
anybody
is
here
diane
did
you
want
to
introduce
tina
or
or
anything
like
that?
I
understand
that
she
has
a
five-minute
presentation
to
provide
us
here
for
this
item.
K
Sure
I'd
be
happy
to
I.
I
will
just
introduce
tina
kapoor
our
economic
development
manager,
who's
still
fairly
new
to
the
city,
but
has
gotten
up
to
speed
quickly
and
is
doing
great
work.
So
with
that
tina.
M
Thank
you
diane,
and
I
was
just
on
camera
and
now
zoom
is
giving
me
an
error
message.
So
I'm
sorry,
if
you
don't
see
me
for
some
reason,
we
do
have
a
quick
five-minute
presentation.
We've
all
seen
this
before
so
I'll
make
it
very
brief,
and
let
me
see
if
I
can
share
my
screen
here.
A
Well,
if
zoom's
giving
you
video
problems
tina,
maybe
let
me
let
me
try
to
see
if
I
can
pull
up
the
presentation
for
you.
Thank.
A
Oh,
I
I
have
it
up,
but.
A
Kirsten
if
so,
let
me
try
to
see
if
we
can
share
the
screen
here
and
I
will
try
to
expand
it
if
possible.
A
A
You
can
see
it:
okay,
yeah,
just
let
me
know
when
to
proceed.
M
Thank
you
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
tina
economic
development
manager
and
we're
here
today,
as
mayor
mentioned,
to
discuss
the
proposed
ordinance
for
the
economic
development
committee,
the
staff
report
and
the
ordinance
are
attached
with
the
agenda
in
the
presentation.
Again
we
have
heard
this
before
so
I'll.
Keep
it
very
brief,
as
I
cover
some
background
proposed
composition
and
purpose
of
this
committee.
So
next
page.
A
Oops,
let
me
see
if
I
can.
A
M
So
as
we
shared
at
one
of
the
recent
council
meetings,
this
committee
has
met
informally
for
a
very
long
time
and
as
part
of
the
2021
city
work
program.
Council
has
requested
that
the
muni
code
is
amended
to
codify
this
committee
and
so
february.
15Th
was
the
first
time
when
we
brought
this
item
to
council
and
then
on
may
19th.
M
We
were
given
for
the
direction
to
form
the
committee
comprised
of
two
members
of
city
council,
two
commissioners
and
five
members
of
business
community,
which
will
represent
the
retail
hospitality
technology,
commercial,
real
estate
and
education
sectors.
Council
also
directed
staff
to
include
an
optional
majority
residency
requirement
for
for
this
committee.
Next
page.
M
So,
just
a
quick
refresher,
this
committee
historically
discussed
items
of
importance
for
local
businesses
and
provided
feedback
on
business
related
initiatives
and
projects
that
cities
working
on.
You
know
around
partnerships
relationships
to
promote
a
strong
economy.
Next
slide
again.
This
is
based
on
the
survey
that
staff
had
conducted
a
few
months
back.
We've
gone
over
this
information
so
and
it's
also
included
in
the
report,
but
this
kind
of
shows
the
composition
of
commissions
and
committees
in
other
cities
next
night
and
so
similar
to
the
role
of
the
committee
in
the
past.
M
This
is
what
the
proposed
purpose
of
this
new
committee
is,
is
recommended
to
be,
which
is
to
provide
expertise
and
guidance
on
policy
related
to
economic
development,
also
to
actively
promote
cupertino
as
a
location
of
choice
for
current
and
prospective
businesses,
and
this
purpose
can
be
carried
out
again
in
three
ways
listed
here.
One
would
be
to
make
recommendations
on
a
broad
range
of
strategic
matters
related
to
again
economic
development
goals
for
the
city.
M
Members
can
also
serve
as
ambassadors
to
shed
a
positive
light
on
the
city
by
sharing
resources,
information
with
prospective
businesses
and
stakeholders.
And,
lastly,
the
committee
will
encourage
public-private
partnerships
and
identify
potential
resources
to
further
city's
economic
development
goals
next
slide
and
so
taking
into
account
council's
direction
on
the
composition
of
this
committee.
The
proposed
membership,
as
you
can
see
here,
includes
two
city
council
members,
one
commissioner,
from
the
sustainability
commission
and
one
from
the
technology
information
and
communications
commission,
as
well
as
the
five
industry
sectors
that
I
mentioned
before.
M
So
the
committee
will
have
a
total
of
nine
members,
as
shown
here
next
slide,
and
so
with
that.
Our
recommendation
today
is
that
council
conducts
the
first
reading
of
this
ordinance
to
codify
the
economic
development
committee
and
next
slide,
and
I
think
that's
it
yup.
Thank
you
so
much
again
for
the
opportunity
to
present
and
we're
here.
If
you
have
any
questions
great.
A
Thank
you
very
much
tina.
Let's
go
to
our
members
of
the
public
for
comment
on
the
presentation
and
the
item.
I
don't
see
anybody
with
their
hands
raised
right
now
and
so
well
tina.
Let
me
thank
you
for
your
work
done
on
this.
It's
a
great
to
have
at
least
a
proposed
charter
here
in
the
ordinance,
and
so
let's
go
ahead
and
bring
this
over
to
our
city
clerk.
Madam
city
clerk.
Did
anyone
email
in
or
provide
a
blue
card
for
the
record
on
this
item?
No.
F
A
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
city
clerk.
So
let's
go
to
our
council
members
that
are
on
zoom
councilmember,
william
any
initial
comments
or
questions
on
this
proposal
in
front
of
us
here
and
I
see
councilmember
william
with
the
hand
raise
followed
by
councilmember
way.
L
Yeah
and
just
to
to
flag
you
thank
mayor,
I
think
at
this
time
I
I
like
on
the
last
item,
without
particular
expertise,
I'll
be
listening
to
the
other
councilmen
that
are
more
involved
with
this
and
what
what
their
recommendations
are
and
justification.
G
So
my
question
is
the
staff
that's
going
to
be
working
with
this
committee?
Would
I
be
our
economic
director
or
because
I
don't
see
staff
on
this
composition,
so
my
question
is:
who,
who
are
the
staff?
That's
going
to?
You
know
work
with
this
committee.
A
I
believe
the
economic
economic
development
manager
would
staff
this
but
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
that
tina
or
someone
from
staff.
M
C
M
G
Great
because
I
think
our
economic
director
would
be
should
really
be
here
to
advise
and
and
also
you
know,
report
back
on,
what's
been
going
on
with
the
development
of
economic
development
with
the
city
so
yeah,
I
I
remember
the
old
it
used
to
be.
The
economic
director
is
one
of
the
voting
members,
but
I
guess
we
prefer
just
for
staff
support
instead
of
having
the
staff
owned.
As
a
voting
committee
member.
M
A
Right
yeah
vice,
let's
see,
let's
go
to
councilmember
more
and
then
vice
versa.
Council,
more.
I
Okay,
so
it's
my
understanding
that
we're
looking
at
either
option
a
or
option
b.
I
We
had
made
some
previous
choices,
so
it's
the
the
nine
member
committee
and
the
difference
being
for
option
a
you've
got
committee
members
shall
be
cupertino
residents
or
own
a
business
or
be
currently
employed
at
a
business
or
organization
located
within
the
city
of
cupertino
option
b,
same
composition
at
it
then
states
for
option
b
that
it
would
be
at
least
two
industry
sector
representative
committee
members
shall
be
cupertino
residents,
so
there's
just
a
slight
difference
in
the
the
wording
there.
H
B
H
H
the
there
were
three
items
that
the
economic
development
committee
choose
to
pursue.
One
is
mobile
vendors
and
there
is
an
innovative
zone
and
then
there's
some
a
third
one.
I
forgot,
I
think,
all
of
those
having
to
to
do
is
plan
false
under
planning
commission
and
then
that
was
referred
later
to
planning
commission
and
then
I
realized
planning
commission
is
now
one
of
the
members,
I'm
just
drawing
out
that
as
a
question
for
other
council
members
to
just
to
ponder.
H
J
A
I
I
think
that,
let
me
let
me
go
backwards
with
regard
to
the
the
requests
out
there
for
feedback
from
council.
I
mean
with
regard
to
the
residency
requirement.
I
think
that
you
know:
option
b
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility,
I'm
trying
to
glean
what
the
staff
recommendation
actually
states
it.
It
seems
to
say
that
I
mean
the
staff
recommendation
document.
It
says
excluding
the
two
council
members
serving
on
the
committee
at
least
three
additional
members
must
be
residents
of
cupertino
and
I'm
wondering
what
our
requirements
are
on
sustainability
and
tick.
A
What
we
just
mentioned
a
moment
ago
is
that
we
believe
that
those
are
cupertino
residents.
I
was
about
to
pull
up
the
municipal
code,
but
I
didn't
have
enough
time
to
to
do
that
to
verify
that
that
both
tick
and
all
sustainability
members
have
to
be
residents.
If
that's
the
case,
then
yes,
then
then
you
have
four
that
have
to
be
cupertino
residents
as
a
matter
of
course,
and
then,
but
it
does
look
like
the
option
that
is
baked
into
the
proposed
draft
ordinance
as
option
a
or
option
b
option.
A
A
basically
says
that
everybody
has
to
be
a
resident
of
cupertino
option
b
says
that
up
to
three
people,
don't
need
to
be
residents
of
cupertino
and
specifically
out
of
the
the
non-uh
council
and
and
commission
members,
so
out
of
the
five
out
of
the
so-called.
Like
you
know,
sectors
of
of
business
or
or
the
other
identifier
areas.
A
Three
of
them
don't
need
to
be
city,
council,
I'm
sorry
cupertino
residents,
and
so
I
I
would
error
I
I
would
actually
lean
towards
the
site
of
flexibility
to
allow
us.
You
know
to
draw
to
cast
a
wider
net,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
involved
in
our
city
that
don't
necessarily
live
here,
but
also
have
you
know
significant
activities
here
as
well,
or
it
might
look
very
close,
for
instance,
so
chris
you're
looking
over,
did
you
want
to
say
something
with
regard
to?
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah.
No,
I
I
misspoke
earlier
there
are
there.
It
is
possible
to
have
somebody
who's,
not
a
cupertino
resident
on
the
sustainability
commission.
That's.
F
F
A
Right
yeah,
so
so,
as
written
option
b,
basically
ensures
a
majority
of
residents
still
correct
as
a
minimum.
There
have
to
be
five,
so
those
would
be
the
two
council
members,
the
one
tick,
commissioner,
as
well
as
the
other
two
from
the
other
five
that
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
be
or
or
that
would
have
to
be
from
cupertino.
That
would
have
to
live
here
so,
okay,
so
so,
yes,
that
that
does
preserve
the
majority.
I
you
know,
I'm
okay,
with
the
staff
recommendation
in
option
b.
A
You
know
frankly,
and
then
so
I
think
that
covers
councilmember
moore's
question
in
terms
of
kind
of
thinking
about
other
types
of
representatives.
A
I
think
that
the
composition
that
we
have
selected
right
now
you
know
is,
is
perfectly
fine.
I
I
like
the
idea
of
our
sustainability
appointee
or
one
of
them.
You
know
on
it,
because
it
is
a
very
strong
value
of
the
community
as
reflected
in
well.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
positions
that
we
take.
It's
interesting
that
there's
an
education
representative,
but
I
mean
of
course
education
is,
is
extremely
valuable
on
our
in
our
city
and
it
also
is
actually
a
pretty
strong
force
in
our
business
sector
as
well.
A
So
I
I
would
say
right
now:
my
preference
would
be
just
to
go
ahead
with
what
is
what
is
there
and
has
been
thought
out
and
is
is
would
then
be
chartered
frankly,
because
you
know
when
we
talk
about
voting,
we
talk
about
procedures
of
the
former
economic
development
committee.
A
I
think
it's
all
in
a
bit
of
a
vacuum
because
none
of
that
was
written
down.
You
know
none
of
that
was
actually
formalized,
so
it
was
sort
of
like
you
know.
We
don't
really
know
who's
the
chair.
We
don't
know
what
the
meeting
procedures
were.
We
don't
really
know
who
a
member
was
or
what
a
voting
member
meant.
You
know
precisely
so
so
so
here
we
do
so.
My
tendency
is
to
go
ahead
and
say
you
know,
let's,
let's
try
this
out.
A
If
it
doesn't
work,
you
know
after
say
a
cycle
or
a
couple
years,
then
you
know:
there's
always
the
ability
to
modify
according
to
experience.
A
So
so
those
those
are
my
tendencies
there
and
if
there
are
any
other
people
that
would
like
to
you
know
kind
of
put
in
that
input
prior
to
entertaining
emotion,
I'd
be
happy
to
you
know,
bring
some
you're
going
to
entertain
a
motion
councilman
more
okay.
So
let's
do
that
and
that
doesn't
cut
off
discussion.
So
councilmember
moore
bring
forth
your
motion
I'll
see.
I
Okay,
I'm
not
really
sure
how
we're
going
to
do
this,
because
we
have
the
option
b
item
there.
So,
let's
see
I'm,
I
move
that
ordnance
number
2,
2,
2,
2,
4
0.,
be
read
by
title
only
and
that
the
city
clerk's
reading
constitute
the
first
reading
there
of
with
option
b
being
the
selected.
I
The
selected
composition
option
so
that
we
are,
we
are
doing
the
recommended
action
to
conduct
the
first
reading
of
ordinance,
number
22-2240,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council,
the
city
of
cupertino,
adding
chapter
2.96
of
title
ii,
administration
and
personnel
to
codify
the
economic
development
committee
and
to
find
that
the
proposed
actions
are
exempt
from
sequa.
So
I
might
have
done
that
a
little
bit
out
of
order,
but
so
that
again,
that
I
move
that
ordinance
number
22-2240
be
read
by
title
only
and
that
the
city's
clerk's
reading
constitute
the
first
reading
thereof.
A
Oh,
I
I
think
your
your
motion
was
clear
if
you
know
maybe
once
repetitive
on
on
some
of
the
items,
but
any
event,
it's
clear:
you're
we're
moving
the
recommended
action
option
b,
and
so,
if
no
one
volunteers,
the
second
I'll
go
ahead
and
second
it
vice
mayor,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
second
this?
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
second
from
vice
mayor
ciao
and
vice
mayor
ciao
is
requesting
to
deliberate
on
the
motion.
Yeah.
H
So
for
option
b
I
mean
option
a
says,
says
that
committee
members
shall
be
cupertino
residents
or
own
a
business
or
be
currently
employed
at
a
business
organization
located
within
the
city
of
cupertino
for
option
b.
It
just
says
at
least
two
industry
sector
representative
commune
committee
members
shall
be
cupertino
residents,
but
then
it
did
not
require
them
to
be
employed
in
a
cupertino
business
or
on
a
cupertino
business.
H
A
Right,
so
let
me
I'm
just
trying
to
pull
that
part
of
the
language
here,
so
we've
got
gosh
where,
where
are
the
alternatives
here?
Can
someone
give
me
a
super
paginated
reference?
1029?
Oh
okay,
for
some
reason,
I'm
a
few
pages
off
of
that.
Okay,
so
option
a
under
section
b.
A
Okay,
so
indeed
it
does
say
shall
be
cooperate
in
residence
or
own
a
business
or
be
currently
employed
at
a
business
organization
located
within
cupertino.
So
so
that
actually
leaves
the
opportunity
for
you
not
to
be
a
resident
of
cupertino
like
you're,
pointing
out,
whereas.
B
A
B
says
at
least
two
industry
sector
representatives
representative
committee
members,
shelby
cupertino
residents.
I
see
well
I
I
guess
you
know
this
is
a
a
way
of
parsing.
This
you
know:
option
option
b
does
seem
to
provide
us
some
more
alternatives.
A
A
L
B
J
A
Mayor
you
had
indicated
that
you
want
to
propose
an
amendment.
H
To
the
motion
yeah,
but
I
first
have
a
question
so
education
sector,
my
initial
first
reaction
was
oh
employee,
offering
school
agency
and
a
public
school
agency.
But
then
we
have
a
lot
of
after
school
organizations
in
cupertino
who
offer
from
class
from
after
after-school
classes
to
even
even
kung-fu
classes,
right,
dance
classes.
So
are
they?
H
A
You
don't
want
to
suggest
okay,
so
let
me
let
me
just
check
in
with
the
movement
councilmember
moore.
Would
you
be
willing
to
make
this
modification
to
your
motion
that
you
see
on
the
screen.
I
Industry
representatives
would
own
a
business
or
be
currently
employed,
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
bits
of
information
that
I
would
actually
like
to
hear
from
somebody
who
lives
in
cupertino
and
is
representing
one
of
these
industries,
so
the
retail
hospitality,
education,
commercial,
real
estate
and
tech,
but
they're
they're,
working
outside
of
the
city,
I'd
like
to
hear
in
particular
in
particular,
perhaps
somebody
who's
who's,
running
retail
somewhere
else,
any
kind
of
retail
or
or
tech
what
their
experiences
are
in
another
city
for
why
their
business
is
there
rather
than
here
so
there's
some
information
that
if
we
are
just
looking
in
looking
at
cupertino
that
we
might
be
missing
some
information,
for
you
know
why.
I
Why
did
you
choose
to
be
in
campbell?
Why
did
you
choose
to
be
you
know
in
in
milpitas
or
or
mountain
view?
So
I
mean
there
are
there's
that
that's
why
it's
kind
of
a
it's,
a
tough
choice
between
option,
a
and
b
what
we
have
here,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
the
modification,
because
I
can
see
pluses
and
minuses
for
for
each.
I
But
I
do
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
getting
if
somebody's
living
here
working
elsewhere,
I'd
like
to
know
why,
and
they
might
have
some
insights
for
what
we
can
be
doing
better
here
to
attract
their
business
to
to
our
location.
There
might
might
be
some
good
points
to
to
learn.
Can
I
respond.
A
Let
me
just
interject
that
again,
this
is
a
matter
of
flexibility.
This
doesn't
require
that
you
choose
someone
who
doesn't
have
a
business
in
cupertino
right,
yeah,
it's
just
a
matter
of
whether
you'd
like
to
keep
that
option
open.
A
So
I
I
would
say
that
you
know
I
I
I
I
think
that
it's
a
good
thing
that
we're
looking
at
this
and
kind
of
moving
around
the
contours
of
it.
You
can't
anticipate
any.
You
know
every
every
every
requirement
and
you
know
kind
of
second
guess
all
of
the
various
ways
in
which
it
might
be
undesirable.
A
Or
you
know
some
eventual
eventuality
might
occur
based
upon
the
the
permissions
but
as
as
chris
pointed
out,
is
it's
unlikely
in
most
instances
or
really
in
all
of
them
that
if
someone
has
absolutely
no
connection
to
the
city
that
you
would
choose
them
to
be
on
the
committee?
So
so
so
I
would.
I
H
Okay,
so
I'll
share
and
can
I
first
respond?
I
think
yeah
it's
important
to
learn
how
people
choose
different
locations,
but
then
they
don't
have
to
be
on
the
committee.
They
can
invite.
They
can
be
invited
to
talk
to
the
committee
and
we
can
invite
multiple
of
this
kind
of
person
to
talk
about
how
they
choose
their
location.
So
but
then
they
don't
have
to
be
voting
members.
H
A
Okay,
well,
let's
see,
let's,
let's
hear
from
some
other,
you
know
people
that
have
their
hands
raised.
I
have
a
hand
raised
from
tina
kapoor
before
continue.
I
just
point
out
vice
mayor
I'll,
repeat
what
I
told
you
earlier.
I
don't
think
you
should
put
a
preference
in
there.
I
mean
it
really
doesn't
have
any
meaning
when
you're
imparting
it
into
an
ordinance,
so
so
so
tina
and
then.
M
Thanks
mayor
paul,
I
just
wanted
to
address
what
councilmember
moore
brought
up,
because
I
do
think
it's
an
important
point
and
we,
you
know
ourselves
in
this
field
of
work.
We
want
to
know
why
businesses
are
locating
in
cupertino
or
outside
cupertino,
but
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
having
the
commercial
real
estate
representative
could
be
that
answer
for
us.
M
G
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
do
like
the
flexibility,
because
you
know
it
depends
on
the
applicants.
We
could
find
one
really
dynamic
one
who
is
not.
It
doesn't
have
a
business
here,
and
but
we
are
in
the
ordinance
stating
that,
at
least
in
addition
to
the
two
council
members
at
least
three
has
to
be
kokino
residents.
So
I
think
that
we
basically
covers
you
know
the
cupola
century
economic
development
committee
and
I
understand
vice
mayor
child's
concerns.
G
A
Okay,
thanks
very
much
councilman
way,
and
I
remind
everyone
we
do
have
the
motion
by
councilman
moore
on
the
table
with
the
second
by
vice
mayor
ciao,
and
so
I
don't
see
any
further
hands
raised.
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
our
city
clerk
to
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
after
conducting
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance.
A
F
That
was
my
question.
Thank
you
yes,
so
this
is
the
first
reading
of
ordinance
number
22-2240,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
cupertino,
adding
chapter
2.96
of
title
ii,
administration
and
personnel
to
codify
the
economic
development
committee
and
also
may
or
may
I
confirm
if
council
is
finding
that
the
proposed
actions
are
exempt
from
sequa.
Oh.
F
A
A
You,
madam
city
clerk,
we're
on
to
item
number
16
the
last
enumerated
item
on
our
agenda
items.
Number
16
has
to
do
with
voting
delegates
to
the
league
of
california
cities
meeting
which
is
taking
place
on
september
7th
through
september
9th
of
this
year,
and
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
our
city
clerk,
madison
clerk.
I
take
it.
You
have
a
brief
comment
on
it
or
did
that
pretty
much
cover
the
yes.
F
That
just
council
members
are
going
to
be
attending
the
conference
september
7th
through
the
9th
and
last
in
long
beach,
and
the
annual
business
meeting
that
is
held
during
the
conference
requires
a
delegate
assignment
and
up
to
two
alternates
in
order
to
vote
and
consider
cal
city
policies,
understood.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
city
clerk,
I'll
go
to
our
members
of
the
public.
If
anyone
has
a
comment
on
this,
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised
and
madam
city
clerk
are
there
any
emails.
Are
there
you
know
any
any
any
blue
cards
on
this
item?
A
I
Yes,
I
would
like
to
suggest
our
delegate
be
mayor,
paul
and
the
alternate
be
the
vice
mayor.
Chow,
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
need
two
alternates
but
just
for
the
delegate
and
the
alternate.
A
Okay,
that
makes
sense
to
me.
Would
anyone
like
to
second
that
motion
by
councilmember
moore
to
have
me
as
the
delegate
and
the
vice
mayor
as
the
alternate
councilmember
away
your
hand
was
raised?
Would
you
like
a
second
thank.
G
A
Okay,
very
good,
any
further
discussion
requested.
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised.
Okay,
well,
let's
go
ahead
and
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
this
motion.
Madam
city
clerk.
F
A
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Madison
clerk,
okay,
oral
communications
did
not
need
to
be
continued,
and
so
we're
on
to
council
and
staff
comments
and
future
agenda
items
prior
to
adjournment.
So
I'll
just
remind
everyone,
we're
allocating
a
couple
minutes
each
for
this
one.
So
let's
let's
go
to
our
zoom
participants
here
from
council.
So
actually
let
me
go
to
our
acting
city
manager,
diane
thompson.
First,
did
you
have
any
staff
comments
on
behalf
of
the
staff
at
this
point?
Diane.
A
Great
well
thanks
for
sticking
with
us
throughout
the
meeting
diane,
it's
great
to
see
your
cherry
face
the
whole
time.
So,
thanks
for
being
here
so
council
member
way
or
council
member
willie,
any
future
agenda
items
that
you'd
like
to
request
at
this
time,
so
councilmember
white
and
then
councilmember
woolley.
G
Yes,
I
would
like
to
propose
a
future
like
a
study
session,
just
maybe
just
for
my
information
or
because
I
I
think
most
of
us
receive
some
emails
from
you
know,
residents
that
saying
that
the
code
enforcement
is
pretty
erratic
and
I
don't
understand
the
code
enforcement's
procedure,
so
maybe
we
could
have
a
study
session
on
it
and
we
really
understand
how
code
enforcement
works.
If
our
you
know,
kubertino
311
could
supplement
it.
You
know
something
in
that
nature,
so
at
least
the
council
and
residents
can
understand
how
to
approach
it.
G
What
can
we
do
about
it
so
that
that
it
doesn't
have
to
immediate?
But
that's
one
thing
on
my
mind
that
I
think
it's
worth
a
study
session
to
understand
it,
both
as
me
as
a
council,
member
and
also
residence
perspectives.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
for
the
suggestion
and
the
request
council
member
way.
I've
made
note
of
it.
I
think
that's
a
a
good
idea.
Actually
I
I
don't.
I
don't
recall
a
code
enforcement
study
session
since
I've
been
on
here
and
I
think
that
probably
the
time
is
quite
ripe
for
it.
Diane.
You
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
that
request?.
K
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
on
that.
We've
received
the
same
suggestion
from
another
council
member
recently
and
it's
a
good
idea
and
because
our
agendas
are
going
to
be
really
tight,
I
think
for
the
next
month,
or
so
it
may
be
that
we
can't
get
to
that
quickly.
However,
within
the
next
week
and
a
half
or
so
I'm
preparing
a
memo,
actually
public
works
is
prepare.
Not
public
works.
K
I'm
going
to
ask
our
code
enforcement
group
to
prepare
a
memo
explaining
our
process,
and
so
in
the
short
term,
we
can
provide
that
to
council
that
may
answer
the
questions
or
it
may
spark
more
interest
in
a
study
session.
So
at
least
it's
a
starting
point
of
something
that
we
can
do
sooner
later.
A
Indeed,
thank
you
for
that
input,
diane
very
good.
So
let's
go
on
to
councilmember
willie
at
this
time,.
L
So
I
support
that
request,
so
I
think
that
gets
us
the
two
and
that's
all
I
have
for
this
evening.
A
I
I
I'd
actually
like
to
hear
some
comments
from
the
public
for
what
their
experiences
has
been
like,
whether
they
use
the
3-1-1
or
their
e-mailing
council
directly
and
what
our
best
practices
can
be
moving
forward,
because
when
we
get
an
email
blast,
essentially
to
the
entire
council
from
an
individual
with
regarding
a
complaint,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
figure
out
exactly
what
the
the
best
response
is
to
that,
and
we
don't
want
to
have
duplication
where
we
have
five
members
of
the
council
emailing
the
same
person
over
the
same
issue
and
just
there's
redundancy
built
in
with
that.
I
I
The
with
regards
to
how
the
eoc
works
and
with
our
radio
operators
as
well
with
their
mobile
vehicle
and
all
that,
I
think
it
would
be
really
helpful
and
educational
and
and
you
we
can
touch
on
earthquake
preparedness
as
well
just
kind
of
remind
everybody
about
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
and
get
some
updates
about
the
block
program
and
neighborhood
watch.
I
think
that
might
help
thanks.
Okay,.
A
Great
thanks
for
throwing
that
last
part
in
there
with
block
leader
program
and
neighborhood
watch,
because
they're
all
under
that
one
of
you
just
right
now
so
great
vice
mayor,
ciao,.
A
So
yeah,
let's
go
back
and
check
that
out.
So
so
very
briefly,
I
do
see
a
hand
raised
from
our
city
manager.
Diane
did
you
want
to
speak
to
anything
that
sorry
about
that?
Vice.
B
F
A
Let
me
go
back
to
see
if
our
city
manager
wanted
to
speak
to
anything
that
councilmember
I'm.
K
A
A
Okay,
well,
let
me
get
the
vice
mayor,
ciao
first
and
then
you
know
we'll
get.
H
Back
to
you,
so
I
think
we
need
assignment
of
members
to
economic
development
committee
at
one
point
and
then
the
scope
of
the
environmental
review
committee
should
come
back
and
I
think
we
mentioned
earlier.
The
membership
for
the
city
hall
subcommittee
that
should
be
assigned
and
and
yeah
I
think
we
are
getting.
H
People
are
emailing
us
with
different
issues
from
bike
paths
to
shops
that
need
to
be
cut
to
things
left
over
on
the
street
that
they
didn't
leave.
But
then
they
got
an
cited
for
something
left
by
someone
else.
So
so
so
many
issues
I'm
losing
track
of
them.
So
I
wonder
if
we
could
have
a
system
so
that
we
maybe
end
of
every
month
we
can
have
a
spreadsheet
of
the
different
issues
and
then
what
are
the
responses?
H
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
for
all
the
council
members
and
about
the
public
to
know
what
yeah,
okay,
so
in
one
possible
way,
could
be.
When
we
respond,
we
can
email
deborah
who
can
collect
and
be
the
point
to
coordinate
all
the
responses.
Then,
if
someone
has
responded,
then
other
council
members
don't
have
to
spend
time
on
that.
A
Okay,
great
yeah,
okay!
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
Vice
mayor
ciao,
I
don't
have
future
agenda
items
here,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Although
councilman
wade
didn't
indicate
that
she
wanted
to
add
one
more
item:
councilmember
white:
what
was
the
item
that
you
wanted
to
add.
G
Actually,
I
understand
we
have
tight
agendas,
but
just
a
thought,
there's
so
much
gun
violence
recently,
I
really
would
like
to
bring
back
if
we
have
time
in
the
future
to
save
storage
of
guns
in
kupatino.
I
think
it's
important
as
a
preventive
thing,
so
that
we
don't
have
that
even
have
a
chance
for
that
to
happen
and
in
cupertino
I
just
the
gun.
Violence
is
just
breaks
people's
hearts.
So
I'm
hoping
that
when
we
have
time
we
can
bring
that
back.
H
A
So,
for
instance,
the
code
enforcement
item
went
ahead
and
had
the
so
so
this
is
what
I'm
going
to
do,
I'm
going
to
so,
for
example,
just
going
through
your
requests
assignment
of
members
to
the
economic
development
committee.
We
have
to
go
through
second
reading.
First
right.
Obviously
that
has
to
pass
the
scope
of
environmental
review
committee.
I
I
I
I
our
subcommittee
rather
that
has
already
been
covered
and
we're
going
to
bring
that
back
as
a
follow-on
to
the
subcommittee
request.
A
The
the
city
hall
subcommittee,
composition,
same
thing,
a
lot
of
residence
issues
and
updates
on
various
issues.
I
mean
I,
I
I
without
getting
into
the
deliberative
process.
I
think
that
each
of
these
will
be
reviewed
with
the
city
manager
and
city
attorney
in
my
next
meeting
and
we'll
see
what
the
timing
looks
like
on
each
of
them.
So
you
know,
and
not
all
of
them
have
the
same
status
right.
A
As
you
know,
council
broadway
pointed
out
her
last
request
actually
is
on
the
work
plan,
so
we'll
kind
of
figure
out
where
everything
fits
and
based
upon
our
scheduling.
So
yeah
thanks
for
the
question,
but
without
without
putting
too
fine
a
point
of
it.
You
know
we
have.
We
do
have
a
very
full.
A
You
know
list
of
things
that
we're
going
to
get
to
and
we'll
do
our
very
best
to
you
know,
follow
up
on
most
or
all,
if
not
most,
of
these
in
the
relatively
near
term
future.
So
thank
you
very
much
everyone
good
meeting
tonight.
I
hope
that
the
rest
of
the
first
half
of
july
goes
well
and
we
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
adjourn
this
special
meeting
and
we
will
see
you
for
our
regularly
scheduled
council
meeting
on
july
19th.