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Description
The City of Cupertino is currently preparing its Housing Element update, which covers the planning period of 2023 to 2031. The Housing Element is part of Cupertino’s General Plan and identifies policies and programs intended to meet the housing needs of the City’s current and future residents.
Your comments and input on the Housing Element update and the community engagement process is encouraged.
In order to learn more and stay informed on the Housing Element update go to engagecupertino.org where you can register to receive future meeting notifications.
A
Okay,
good
evening
my
name
is
luke
connolly,
I'm
a
senior
planner
with
the
city
of
cupertino
and
I'm
managing
the
city's
housing
element
update.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
coming
out
tonight.
We've
got
a
few
people
in
the
house
here
at
community
hall
and
quite
a
few
more
on
zoom.
So
this
is
a
hybrid
meeting.
It's
going
to
be
a
very
interactive
meeting,
so
if
you're
used
to
a
typical
commuting
community
meeting
format
where
it's
more
like
just
a
presentation,
this
is
going
to
be
a
lot
more
interactive.
A
The
housing
element,
as
you
may
or
may
not
know,
is
a
very
lengthy
undertaking.
It's
an
update
of
an
element
of
the
city's
general
plan.
It's
done
every
eight
years,
there's
a
lot
of
facets
to
the
housing
element,
but
the
focus
of
tonight's
meeting
is
going
to
really
be
on
outreach
and
affh,
which
is
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing,
we'll
be
getting
into
what
that
really
means
tonight.
As
the
presentation
develops,
so
I'm
not
going
to
belabor
that
we've
got
a
pretty
tight
schedule.
A
The
meeting
is
expected
to
go
an
hour
and
a
half
and
stay
on
point.
There
will
be
opportunities
to
go
into
breakout
rooms
where
you'll
have
a
chance
to
ask
questions,
talk
and
listen
to
others
and
gain
a
different
perspective
on
housing
issues.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
be
turning
this
over
to.
We
have
josh
salo
with
west
valley,
community
services
and
annie
andy
flower
with
emc
planning,
who
is
the
city's
lead
consultant
on
the
housing
element,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
josh.
B
Thank
you
so
much
luke.
I
appreciate
it
good
evening,
everyone,
those
of
you
here
in
person
and
those
of
you
online,
it's
very
exciting
to
be
here
with
you
talking
about
one
of
my
favorite
topics.
Yes,
housing.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
at
west
valley,
community
services,
talking
about
housing,
helping
our
clients
find
housing
and
addressing
the
need
for
more
housing,
and
recently
I
picked
up
this
book
golden
gates
and
it's
by
connor
doherty,
and
it's
about
the
housing
crisis
in
the
bay
area
and
here's
a
quote
from
the
book.
B
Housing
is
the
foremost
symbol
of
inequality
and
an
economy
gone
wrong,
which
I
thought
is
a
really
interesting
and
eye-opening
quote
about
the
challenges
we're
facing
related
to
housing.
B
Our
goals
for
this
evening
are
to
gain
a
better
understanding
of
affh
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
and
inclusion
in
cupertino's
housing
element,
and
we
have
an
excellent
panel
on
tap
for
tonight
to
help
us
explore
that
very
topic.
We're
gonna
engage
in
dialogue
with
those
of
you
here
in
person,
and
those
of
you
online
so
there'll
be
opportunities
to
do
that
as
well,
and
we're
gonna
help.
B
You
find
ways
to
get
involved
with
the
housing
element
in
cupertino,
because
this
is
a
community
process
which
requires
community
engagement
and
involvement,
and
we
want
you
to
feel
empowered
and
know
the
pathways
by
which
you
can
engage
in
the
housing
element
process
on
your
screen
and
in
front
of
you
in
a
moment.
You'll
see
the
agenda
for
this
evening.
It'll
give
you
a
broad
overview
of
the
topics
we'll
be
covering
over
the
course
of
our
time.
B
We
haven't
been
gathering
together
so
much
in
person
as
a
community,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we
are
all
on
the
same
page
into
the
ways
we
want
you
all
to
show
up
together,
so
we
can
have
the
most
constructive
conversation
and
so
on
your
screen
you're
going
to
see
a
list
of
community
agreements
that
we're
hoping
all
of
you
can
participate
in
tonight
and
agree
with
and
again
this
is
so
we
all
can
show
up.
We
all
can
feel
welcome.
B
We
all
can
feel
seen
and
all
engaged,
but
also
be
able
to
be
heard
so
you'll
see
on
your
screen.
The
following
agreements
use
I
statements,
you're
speaking
from
your
own
personal
perspective.
We
want
people
to
step
up
and
share
their
opinions,
but
also
step
back
to
make
room
for
other
people
to
join.
In
the
conversation
we
want
to
learn
a
lot.
So
what's
learned
here
the
concepts
that
are
learned
here.
B
We
want
you
to
leave
here
and
talk
about
them
with
your
neighbors
and
friends,
but
we
don't
want
to
attribute
them
to
specific
people.
So
what's
said
here
by
specific
people
stays
in
this
room.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we're
not
always
strong
about
is
assuming
best
intentions,
so
we
do
want
to
assume
best
intentions
of
all
of
our
speakers.
We
want
to
listen
and
give
people
space
to
finish
their
thoughts
before
we
add
on
to
them,
and
it
is
okay
to
disagree.
B
We
want
to
be
respectful
and
engage
in
conflict
resolution
in
a
constructive
manner
and
know
that
there's
a
broad
variety
of
differences
of
opinion
and
that's
okay,
that's
what
makes
a
community
and-
and
we
have
to
respect
that
people
are
coming
to
the
issue
of
housing
from
different
places
and
we're
all
here
to
learn
and
you're,
not
here
to
convince
someone
else
of
your
opinion,
we're
just
here
to
learn
and
share
our
own
opinions
and
of
course
we
want
to
uplift
each
other
and
also
check
in
to
make
sure
we're
all
okay.
B
So,
while
I
cannot
see
all
of
your
faces
on
the
screen,
if
you
can
all
maybe
those
in
the
room
and
those
on
screen
put
a
thumbs
up
that
we're
good
to
engage
based
on
the
community
agreements,
I
see
a
lot
of
thumbs
in
the
room.
I'm
gonna
assume
that
I
see
thumbs
on
screen
but,
as
I
said,
I
can't
see
all
of
you
so
I'm
sorry
a
little
bit
of
a
housekeeping
as
we
get
started
tonight.
So,
as
luke
said,
this
is
a
hybrid
meeting,
we're
just
getting
used
to
the
hybrid
structure.
B
So
it's
a
little
bit
weird
for
all
of
us.
It
will
be
taped.
So
if
you
missed
something
tonight-
and
you
want
to
come
back
and
watch
it
later-
you'll
be
able
to
watch
the
video
for
folks
online.
You
can
rename
yourself
by
clicking
the
three
dots
in
the
upper
right
corner
of
your
box.
You
can
also
turn
your
camera
on
or
turn
it
off.
B
Whenever
you
feel
comfortable,
you
all
will
be
in
breakout
rooms
in
person
or
online,
and
you
should
engage
to
whatever
extent
you
feel
you
can
or
are
interested
in
the
breakout
rooms.
No
one
is
required
to
participate,
but
we're
hoping
that
you
will
and
whether
you're
in
person
or
online
there's
no
need
to
raise
your
hand
we'll
be
soliciting
questions
at
different
times,
we'll
have
opportunity
to
add
them
in
the
panelists
and
we'll
let
you
know
when
those
things
are
we'll
also
be
doing
some
pan,
some
polls,
which
will
work
a
little
bit
differently.
B
We'll
report
the
poll
data
for
the
folks
online
for
you
all
here
in
person,
we'll
still
take
your
poll
information,
but
we'll
send
out
an
email
after
tonight's
event
and
we'll
add
your
responses
into
the
poll.
So
we
can
see
full
numbers
for
all
participants,
one
of
the
challenges
of
zoom.
When
half
of
us
are
here
and
half
of
us
are
online.
B
Okay,
I
think
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
opening
poll,
which
is
coming
up
on
your
screen.
We're
gonna
hand
out
to
folks
in
the
room
the
poll
questions
it's
being
printed,
so
we'll
we'll
hand
it
out
a
little
bit
delayed
to
you,
but
you
can
hear
the
questions
that
we're
asking.
The
first
is
on
a
scale
of
one
to
ten.
How
strong
of
a
sense
do
you
think
you
have
of
other
people's
experiences
related
to
housing,
so
go
ahead
and
fill
in?
B
We
will
give
you
all
a
chance
to
fill
in
as
well,
but
we're
asking
people
to
go
in
and
give
their
answer
and
click
submit.
One
means
you
have
little
sense
or
understanding.
10
means
you
are
significantly.
You
know
you
are
a
real
leader
in
this.
I
I
would
love
to
meet
that
person.
So
go
ahead
and
submit
your
answers
as
you
have
them.
Let's
give
it
another
second
or
two.
B
B
B
B
Have
you
ever
experienced
housing
related
challenges
such
as
housing,
insecurity,
trouble,
paying
rent
eviction
or
homelessness,
and
there
is
a
preferred
not
to
say
folks
if
you
want
to
include
that
one
or
one
of
the
other
answers.
Let's
just
give
this
one
a
short
time
and
we'll
submit
those
answers
and
for
folks
in
the
room
your
questionnaires
are
coming
around
now,
so
you'll
be
able
to
fill
out
your
answers.
B
Okay,
can
we
see
those
poll
results.
B
Okay,
so
it
looks
like
we
have
a
pretty
a
bit
of
a
split
35
say
yes:
they've
experienced
one
of
the
below
housing
and
security,
trouble,
paying
rent
eviction
or
homelessness
and
just
over
half
said
no
and
props
to
the
folks
who
said
prefer
not
to
say
that
is
a
great
answer
as
well.
Okay,
we're
going
to
close
that
one
hit
the
close
button
on
your
screen
and
we
have
one
more
question
for
you
all
third
question:
how
much
do
you
know
about
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing?
B
How
much
do
you
know
about
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
and
that's
I've
never
heard
of
it
very
little.
Some
a
lot
or
I
am
an
expert
and
I'm
willing
to
seed
my
seat.
Okay,
go
ahead
and
submit
those
answers.
B
Okay,
so
this
is
evenly
split
among
all
four
26
percent
percent
of
attendees
said
they've
never
heard
of
it.
30
percent
indicated
very
little.
22
indicated
some
and
22
indicated
a
lot.
So
this
is
a
very
interesting
division
across
the
group
that's
attending
tonight,
and
it's
good
that
you're
here,
because
you
are
going
to
learn
about
it
right
now
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
over
the
presentation
to
andy
and
lee
who
are
going
to
talk
to
us
about
the
housing
element
and
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
C
Thank
you,
josh,
I'm
andy
flower
from
emc
planning
group
and
tonight
we're
just
going
to
have
a
quick
overview
of
the
housing
element,
we're
not
going
to
dive
deep.
We
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
you
can
get
more
information
from
the
engage
cupertino.org
website
that
we
have
available
and
it's
constantly
evolving,
there's
always
new
ways
to
participate,
and
we
hope
that
you
all
will
so
the
housing
element.
C
It's
part
of
the
general
plan
and
it's
a
visionary
document,
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
if
there
were
to
be
any
housing
dreamed
of
and
then
constructed
within
this
eight
years,
that
everything
is
in
place
to
make
that
happen,
that
there
are
locations
that
there
is
appropriate
zoning
and
that
there
is
the
will
of
the
people
and
if
you
could
forward
the
slide,
yes
and
so
we're
also
working
with
our
regional
housing
needs
allocation
and
that's
the
target
number
for
the
home
specific
to
the
city
of
cupertino.
C
For
this
eight
year
cycle.
Next
slide,
please
so
who
is
responsible
for
building
housing
it
takes?
It
takes
so
many
different
people,
so
we've
got
city
staff
developers,
current
neighbors,
future
neighbors
policy
makers.
We
all
need
to
come
together
to
to
make
sure
that
there
are
the
appropriate
policies,
predictable
regulations
and
re,
and
we
can
do
what
we
can
about
the
reasonable
building
costs.
But
we
do
look
to
all
of
those
to
see
if
there
are
barriers
to
this
housing
construction
and
then
we
create
the
policies
to
try
to
mitigate
for
those
barriers.
C
This
is
our
list
of
numbers
allocated
to
the
city
of
cupertino.
It's
important
to
understand
that
very
low
income,
low
income
and
moderate
income
are
all
considered.
Affordable
housing,
so
combined
2635
homes
are
needed,
are
understood
as
needed
both
now
and
into
this
eight-year
future
cycle,
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
accommodate
for
our
total
is
4588.
D
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
hi.
Everyone
welcome
to
our
conversation
great
to
have
you
here
and
I
can't
see
those
who
are
in
person
welcome
so
you've.
Probably
if
you've
heard
me
talk
about
this
and
you've
heard
this
work
throughout
this
process.
I'm
sure
this
idea
of
equity
right
this
idea
of
equity
and
our
focus
on
equity
is
the
beginning
point
to
have
a
deeper
conversation
about
inclusion.
D
Okay,
so
you
all
see
this
diagram
we're
showing
here
all
right.
You
see
this
diagram
and
I'm
going
to
walk
through
it
really
quickly.
Now,
for
some
of
you
all,
you
all
may
have
seen
this
before
or
heard
this
before,
so
it
might
be
a
refresher
for
you
and
for
those
who
have
not.
This
might
be
some
new
information
and
a
great
place
to
start
exploring
our
ideas
about
inclusion,
so
in
the
top
half
of
our
image.
D
Here
we
see
this
circle
right
and
it
has
all
these
different
colors
and
blue
red,
green,
yellow
and
they're
all
existing
in
this
one
space
and
this
one
circle
and
that's
inclusion-
and
we
can
imagine
within
that
circle
that
there
are
certain
resources,
a
quality
of
life,
maybe
even
access
right.
So
when
we
get
to
the
bottom
half
of
our
image
here
we
have
three
other
circles.
The
left
side
of
the
the
furthest
circle
left
is
exclusion.
D
Now
exclusion,
you
see
the
circle's
still
there,
and
only
the
green
group
is
inside
the
circle
and
the
rest
of
the
circles
are
outside
of
that
circle.
All
right.
So
again,
if
we're
thinking
about
resources,
maybe
on
the
outside
of
that
circle,
there
may
be
lack
of
resources,
maybe
a
different
quality
of
life
and
maybe
even
lack
of
access
right.
So
that's
exclusion.
D
Only
the
green
groups
in
the
middle
everyone
else
is
excluded.
Next
up
we
see
segregation.
Okay
and
this
one
is
okay.
You
can
have
your
group,
but
it
has
to
be
outside
of
this
group.
So
again
we
have
our
circle.
The
green
folks
are
in
the
circle
and
on
the
outside
of
the
circle,
the
other
colors
are
there
still,
but
then
they're
lumped
into
another
circle
all
right,
so
we
may
ask
okay.
So
what
are
the
resources
that
are
accessible
within
that
smaller
circle,
quality
of
life,
access,
etc?
D
And
then,
finally,
the
final
circle
we
see
there
is
integration
right
integration
that
green
circle,
the
folks
are
still
green
in
the
circle,
however,
the
other
colors
have
moved
into
the
circle,
but
they're
still
within
their
own
little
bubble,
right
so
again
we're
asking
what
resources
look
like
within
that
smaller
bubble
access,
etc.
It's
not
like
the
inclusion
circle
where
things
are
just
freely
flowing
and
not
in
some
sort
of
contained
state
all
right.
So
when
we
think
about
inclusion
all
right,
when
is
it
important
in
the
process?
D
It's
important
throughout
the
policy
making
process
it's
important
when
we're
considering
the
need
for
housing
and
what
those
housing
needs.
Look
like
and
also
anticipation
of
the
planned
results.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
now
tonight?
This
is
the
biggest
thing
we're
going
to
do
tonight
is
think
about
the
next
slide.
If
someone
would
forward,
the
next
slide
is
think
about
how
we
talk
about
diversity.
How
do
we
talk
about
integration?
How
we
talk
about
inclusion
right
so
ab686?
D
Some
of
you
may
have
heard
about
that
affirmative,
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
affh.
This
is
taking
meaningful,
meaningful
actions
in
addition
to
combating
discrimination,
to
overcome
patterns
of
segregation
and
foster
inclusive
communities,
free
from
barriers
and
restrict
access
to
opportunity
based
on
protected
characteristics.
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
tonight?
Okay,
we
are
going
to
have
some
conversations
about
some
of
these
things.
D
We're
also
gonna
have
an
opportunity
to
hear
a
panel
which
is
going
to
break
down
even
more
more
experiences,
and
we
may
even
hear
something
that
we've
never
heard
before
we
may
be
experiencing
something
we've
never
experienced
and
that's
the
main
reason
why
we're
here
is
to
hear
some
different
needs
from
each
other
and
from
our
neighbors
and
again
we
may
hear
something
that's
hard
to
hear
it
may
feel
new.
It
may
feel
awkward.
It
may
feel
a
lot
of
different
kinds
of
things,
because
it's
something
new.
B
B
Room
number
one
over
in
the
opposite
corner
will
be
breakout
room
number
two
and
we
just
did
two
correct
so
one
and
two,
if
you're
online,
you
will
be
moving
into
online
breakout
groups
with
a
moderator
who
will
assist
you
in
your
conversation,
we
are
going
to
be
discussing
a
few
different
questions,
including
your
name,
and
what
brings
you
here
tonight?
B
What
do
you
think
inclusive
housing
looks
like
in
cupertino
and
what
are
some
people
that
need
to
be
included?
Who
should
this
housing
be
built
for
and
what
questions
do
you
want
to
ask
the
panelists?
Now
each
group
is
going
to
have
a
moderator
and
the
moderator
will
be
taking
some
notes.
These
are
anonymous
notes.
They
will
not
be
ascribed
to
any
specific
person,
and
that
helps
us
give
a
report
out
after
the
night's
event
and
also
to
take
notes
of
the
questions
that
you
want
asked
again.
B
B
You'll
have
10
minutes
in
your
breakouts,
so
once
we
move
everyone
online
folks
in
the
room,
you
can
also
head
to
your
breakouts
and
I
think
with
that
we're
ready.
We
will
see
you
in
10
minutes.
B
Okay,
we're
gonna
get
started
again,
y'all
because
everyone
is
back
in
the
main
room,
so
please
come
join
us
for
our
panel
say
I
hope
you
had
productive
conversations.
I
mean
you're
welcome
to
stay
back
there
and
watch
from
your
tables,
or
you
can
come
back
into
the
stadium,
seating
area
and
join
us
over
here.
B
And
to
our
folks
on
zoom,
you
will
be
returning
back
to
breakouts
at
the
end
of
tonight's
program
with
those
same
folks,
so
look
forward
to
a
follow-up
conversation
a
little
bit
later
tonight.
It's
now
time
to
introduce
our
panel
for
the
evening
and
we're
honored
to
have
four
panelists
with
us
who
will
share
their
expertise
on
homelessness,
affordable
housing,
neurodivergence
disabilities,
veteran
status
and
more,
and
what
makes
this
panel
particularly
useful
and
unique
and
powerful
is
that
our
panelists
speak
from
a
place
of
lived
experience.
B
This
can
be
a
really
vulnerable
place
to
speak
from
essentially
telling
your
own
story,
so
we're
incredibly
grateful
for
their
participation
tonight.
Our
panelists
are
mayor,
dundon
welcome,
mayor
joshua,
pringle,
hello,
joshua,
kim
hing,
hickham
and
javante
rose
good
evening
javonte,
so
hopefully
we'll
get
to
see
their
pictures
up
on
the
screen
I'll
wait.
While
we
get
that
together,
I
see
a
whole
bunch
of
faces.
Hey
hey
folks,
good,
to
see
you,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead.
B
I
think
we're
spotlighting
the
panel
so
we're
going
to
get
that
started
and
we're
going
to
jump
right
in
to
our
first
question,
and
this
question
is
for
all
of
our
panelists
and
the
question
is:
please
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself,
one
or
two
things.
You
would
like
the
participants
tonight
to
know
about
you
and
when
we
asked
you
to
do
this,
why
did
you
agree
to
join
the
panel
this
evening
and
yvonte?
Why
don't
we
start
with
you.
E
So
my
name
is:
javonte
nazareth
rose,
I'm
a
u.s
army
veteran.
Let
me
see
I'm
previously
homeless.
I
am
a
recipient
of
one
of
the
homeless
vouchers
called
the
hud
vash
and
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
later,
I'm
part
of
the
lgbtq
community,
I'm
a
trans
guy.
Why?
Why
did
I
decide
to
do
this
today,
because
I
want
to
bring
some
awareness
to
to
the
rest
of
the
community
about
people
like
me
and
that's
that's
pretty
much
awesome.
B
F
Okay,
so
my
name
is
mayor
dundon
and
I'm
gonna
start
with
why
I
showed
up
today.
F
It
took
me
a
really
long
time
to
find
affordable
housing,
not
only
because
I'm
disabled,
but
because
of
some
challenges
with
neurodivergence
and
also
a
lot
of
challenges
in
getting
places
and
doing
things
consistently
with
my
capacity
and
I've
also
had
a
lot
of
experience
working
with
people
doing
something
called
daily
living
coaching,
and
so
I
work
with
seniors
and
people
who
live
in
their
cars,
so
people
who
participate
in
safe
park
programs
and
also
in
disability
justice.
F
So
I
do
a
lot
of
community
care
and
I
hear
a
lot
of
people's
stories
as
well
as
being
able
to
use
my
experience
as
a
productive
service
designer
to
kind
of
help.
Us
have
good
ideas
for
lowering
the
barriers
to
people
getting
in
here
and
participating.
G
Hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
josh.
The
reason
why
I
joined
this
panel
is
well.
It's
actually
my
first
time
doing
this
type
of
panel,
so
I
want
to
do
that
for
sure
and
secondly,
I've
also
been
a
client
of
west
valley,
community
services
for
about
wow,
eight
years
and
counting
now
so
it
says,
2014.-
and
I
just
want
to
you-
know-
share
the
experiences
I
went
through.
G
You
know
me
being
homeless
and
then
just
trying
to
find
affordable
housing
me
having
low
income
on
top
of
that
having
bad
credit
on
top
of
that
as
well.
So,
just
to
you
know,
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
my
experiences
through
that
and
yeah
just
you
know,
share
share
that
and
then
what
I'm
able
to
do
now,
since
I've
been
since
I've
been
an
affordable
housing
house,
I
was
able
to
save
up
money,
get
into
like
credit
coaching
stuff
like
that.
So
yeah
happy
to
be
here.
B
Awesome,
thank
you
kim
will
be
joining
us
in
a
couple
of
minutes
and
so
we'll
have
kim
introduce
themselves
when
they
get
here.
I
should
have
mentioned
that
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
you
all
to
ask
questions
both
folks
online
and
folks
in
person,
we'll
let
you
know
about
the
process
for
that
shortly.
We're
going
to
start
with
some
questions
that
we
prepared
in
advance
for
the
panel
and
since
joshua
you're.
Up
still
on
my
screen,
we're
gonna.
Have
you
start
if
that's?
Okay
with
you
yeah,
that's
fine!
So
what
are?
B
What
are
some
things
you'd
like
people
to
know
in
terms
of
stereotypes
folks
might
have
about
poverty,
affordable
housing
or
homelessness.
G
Oh
man,
that
is
a
great
question.
Actually
I
mean
it's.
I
just
feel
like
this.
You
know
people
who
tend
to
look
at
you
a
little
bit
different
knowing
that
you're,
not
in
the
same
like
income
bracket
as
them.
You
do
get
treated
a
little
bit
different.
You
know
people
tend
to
you
know.
G
I
guess
you
say
like
just
like
look
out
for
you,
because
they
just
assume
that
you
won't
be
able
to
like
afford
this
or
that
type
of
thing.
You
know
what
I
mean,
but
I
mean,
since
I've
been
doing
this
affordable
housing
for
the
past
eight
years.
I've
been
learning
to
like
just
to
manage
my
money
put
money
aside
for
like
rainy
days
and
then,
of
course
I
mean
now
having
a
you
know,
decent
paying
job.
Now
I
can
actually
able
to
you
know,
afford
a
little
bit
more
nice
things
in
life.
G
You
know
here
and
there,
but
yeah
I
mean
that's
like
the
main
stereotype
that
I've
been
seeing
is
like
you
know,
people
try
to,
like,
I
wouldn't
say
one
goal
as
far
as
like
diminished,
but
you
know
just
think
you
choose
like
a
little
bit
less
when
you're,
not
in
the
same
income
bracket
as
like
everybody
else
or
so
or
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
Thanks
joshua,
I
remember
hearing
a
story
from
a
client
who
told
us
that
she
didn't
want
to
go
to
the
hospital
she'd
been
living
in
her
car
and
she
didn't
want
to
go
to
the
hospital
because
and
tell
them
that
she
was
living
in
her
car
because
she
said
I
know
the
way
people
look
at
you
when
you
tell
them
that
you're
unhoused
and
she
was.
She
didn't-
want
to
reveal
that
about
herself.
It's
it's
hard
to
reveal
that,
but.
G
Yeah,
it
changes
the
way,
one
more
thing
to
that
too.
Since
you
said
that
yeah
I
was,
I
had
a
full-time
job
in
san
carlos
and
I
would
commute
back
and
forth
because
I
was
literally
homeless
when
I
have
this
job,
and
I
just
didn't
want
anybody
to
find
out
that
I
was
going
to
that
because
I
felt
embarrassed
even
though
I
probably
shouldn't
be.
I
just
felt
embarrassed
that
you
know
I
had
no
place
to
go
and
everybody's
talking
about.
G
B
Thanks
joshua,
how
about
you
mayor?
What
are
some
stereotypes
that
you
you've
heard
folks
have
about
poverty,
affordable,
housing,
homelessness
and
you
also
bring
the
neurodivergence
lens
to
the
conversation,
so
feel
free
to
add
that
as
well.
B
F
I
think
that,
what's
pretty
fascinating
in
the
experience,
my
personal
experience
and
the
experiences
that
I
hear
is
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
people
making
bad
choices
and
that's
why
they
are
in
the
place
that
they
are,
and
I
do
often
challenge
that,
because
a
lot
of
stuff
happens
to
us
that
we
have
no
control
over.
So
I
do
want
to
have
people
stop
and
think
about
that
before
they
make
those
kinds
of
assumptions.
F
Other
assumptions
that
I
am
seeing
a
lot
are
that
people
are
actually
not
good
with
money
that
they
just
don't
have
any
money
and
that
they're
not
working
hard
enough.
That's
another
one
that
I
hear
a
lot.
I've
even
had
that
said
to
me
that
I
just
wasn't
doing
enough
and
I'm
like
wow,
because
the
reality
is
is
that
there
isn't
any
housing.
F
There
wasn't
any
housing
when
I
was
going
after
it,
and
so
the
the
assumption
that
people
are
just
not
working
hard
enough
or
if
they
just
did
it
in
a
different
way,
then
they
could
get
help.
Those
are
really
painful
assumptions
that
people
have
and
then
coming
from
the
the
neurodivergence
perspective.
F
I
actually
come
from
a
trauma
informed
perspective,
so
I'm
everybody
has
their
challenges
their
ways
of
moving
through
the
world
that
are
different
from
other
folks.
And
thus
you
know
if
someone
causes
a
problem,
then
that's
why
they're
homeless?
That's
why
they
don't
have
money
because
they
can't
conform
to
the
standards
that
other
people
have
of
behavior.
F
B
Thank
you,
mayor
javonte.
Do
you
want
to
add
to
this
as
well?
What
are
some
stereotypes?
You
think
folks
have
related
to
poverty,
affordable,
housing
and
homelessness.
B
I
know
you've
been
having
some
connection
challenges.
Are
you
with
us
javante.
E
E
I'm
sorry
I
forgot
to
hit
on
me
on
mute.
One
of
the
biggest
things
is
that
people
think
it
can't
happen
to
them
and
they
think
that
you
know,
I
think
boston
is
perfect
when
you
prefer
in
a
home
situation
or
at
homelessness.
People
look
at
you
differently
and
it's
it's
like.
They
know
you
know,
even
if
they
don't
really
really
know
if
people
even
suspect
that
you're
anywhere
near
being
homeless,
they
treat
you
as
less
than
a
citizen.
E
You
know
like
somebody
with
electricity
or
something
so
I
think
that
you
know,
and
they
they
kind
of
judge
us
by
our.
You
know,
judge
our
worth
based
upon
where
we
live
or
don't
live
so,
but
they
forget
that
this
can
happen
to
them
at
any
moment,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
anyone
who's
ever
been
homeless.
E
E
So
that's
the
one
thing
I
kind
of
want
to
get
community
members
to
see.
Is
that
don't
you
know,
don't
judge,
because
you
could
end
up
there
yourself.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
vanta.
I
think
that
is
that
is
so
wise.
If
one
one
of
the
lessons
I
learned
during
covid
with
all
the
folks
that
came
in
for
help
is
that
we
were
seeing
people
we,
we
didn't
typically
see
a,
but
also
people
who
never
thought
they
would
have
to
ask
for
help
from
an
organization
like
ours
and
you're
right.
It
really
can
happen
to
anyone.
B
So
thank
you,
yvonte.
I
appreciate
that
since,
since
we
have
you
yvonte
on
the
screen
right
now,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
experience
as
a
veteran
and
how
it
relates
to
to
housing
what
it
was
like
to
get
a
voucher.
E
Yes,
I
had
so
I'm
one
of
those
people
who
never
thought
that
I
would
have
to
ask
for
help
and
pride.
You
know
I
have
a
lot
of
pride
like
anybody
else,
but
luckily
for
me,
I'm
a
vet
and
I
found
out
that
there
there's
like
millions
of
dollars
that
the
va
has
you
know
they.
It
awards
to
organizations
like
west
valley
to
take
care
of
vets
and
par,
and
one
of
those
programs
is
the
hud
voucher.
E
So
for
people
who
are
looking
to
rent
and
they're
within
an
income
threshold,
the
va
in
partnership
with
the
local
housing
authorities,
they
give
a
voucher
a
can
to
section
8
where
they
paid
like,
I
want
to
say
90
or
95
of
the
rent.
It's
the
process.
You
have
to
take
classes
you,
you
know,
you
have
case
management
from
the
va
side,
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
help
that
goes
into
this
program.
E
B
Oh,
it
looks
like
we
lost
you
yovante.
Well,
hopefully,
you'll
get
be
able
to
join
us
back
again,
so
we
can
hear
the
rest
of
that
thought
as
as
we're
transitioning
to
a
new
question.
Folks
online.
If
you
have
questions
we'll
be
taking
audience
questions
in
a
little
bit,
you
should
send
them
using
the
chat
box
on
your
screen
to
either
either
gita
sundar
or
vivian
dang,
and
they
will
make
sure
they
get
to
me.
B
So
I
can
ask
our
panel
folks
in
the
room,
if
you
need
a
piece
of
paper
to
write
a
question
on,
raise
your
hand
and
a
member
of
our
team
will
bring
around
a
piece
of
paper
once
you
have
that
paper
ready,
you
can
lift
it
up
in
the
air
and
they
will
bring
us
those
questions.
Why
don't
we
go
to
you
mayor?
You
identified
yourself
as
neurodivergent,
which,
for
some
folks
is
not
a
word
that
they
recognize.
So
can
you
talk
with
us
a
little
bit?
What
does
it
mean
to
be
neurodivergent?
B
F
Beautiful
so
this
may
be
a
word
that
people
don't
recognize
or
see
as
something
that's
not
a
good
word,
but
neurodivergence
is
actually
a
word.
That
is
a
very
broad
umbrella
term
for
people
that
have
differences
in
sensory
or
cognitive
or
the
way
that
they
think
and
the
way
that
they
are
in
the
world.
So
neurodivergence
is
a
very
broad
sucker.
You
hear
people
talk
about
autism
and
adhd
specifically,
but
there's
an
enormous
amount
of
other
neurodivergence
that
is
under
that
umbrella.
F
Things
like
ptsd
things
like
ocd,
dyslexia,
it's
a
very,
very
broad
term,
and
what
I
like
about
that
is
that
it
allows
us
to
have
conversations
across
a
wider
variety
of
differences.
F
It
also
lets
us
get
into
the
conversation
which
fits
perfectly
with
our
conversation
tonight
about
needs.
So
we
no
longer
use
terms
like
high
functioning
and
low
functioning.
We
don't
do
that
because
that's
quite
ableist,
that's
a
term
that
indicates
if
you're,
if
you're
low,
functioning,
you're
less
valued.
We
don't
want
to
do
that.
We
don't
want
to
put
that
on
to
people,
so
we
tend
to
use.
Support
needs
higher
support
needs.
Lower
support
needs
specific
support
needs.
This
is
where
we
begin
to
intersect
with
disability.
F
I'm
talking
about
disability
from
the
model.
It's
called
the
social
model,
I'm
not
talking
about
a
medical
model
of
disability,
which
means
that,
in
the
social
model,
disability
is
considered
those
interactions
with
our
societies
and
the
places
where
we
can't
participate
because
of
how
they're,
designed
and
created,
and
because
of
the
attitudes
of
the
people
in
that
society,
about
what
we
should
and
should
not
be
able
to
do
so
near
divergence
and
disability.
I
have
an
intersection
of
those
two
things.
Sometimes
neurodivergence
goes
into.
F
F
What
I
am
saying
is
that
we're
talking
about
the
whole
process
of
housing-
so
maybe
someone
who
is
neurodivergent,
doesn't
necessarily
need
the
physical
accommodations,
but
maybe
they
need
some
help
within
the
process
of
filling
out
the
forms
of
going
through
the
process
of
getting
into
the
place
having
the
decisions,
interacting
with
the
people
around
things
that
are
going
on
within
that
process.
So
that's
why
we're
bringing
neurodivergence
into
the
conversation
thank.
B
You
so
it's
more
than
just
the
unit
itself.
It's
the
whole
process
around
housing
and
being
part
of
a
community
successfully
being
part
of
a
community
awesome.
Thank
you,
mayor
joshua.
You
talked
about
the
transition
for
you
from
being
unhoused
in
san
carlos
and
working
to
finding
housing.
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
that
process?
How
that
transition
worked
and-
and
maybe
what
are
some
benchmarks
in
in
that
movement
from
being
on
houzz
to
being
housed.
G
Oh
man,
it
was,
it
was
a
long
process.
I'll
tell
you
that
so
I
yeah
I
was
working
in
san
carlos
still
homeless.
At
the
time
I
was
at
a
rotating
shelter
program
in
sunnyvale,
so
I
would
just
transition
from
like
one
church
and
another
church
to
another,
and
I
would
just
be
sleeping
there
for
the
time
being,
and
I
would
just
go
to
work.
G
It
wasn't
until
one
day
where
a
caseworker,
I
believe
from
west
valley,
actually
came
to
one
of
the
shelters
to
try
to
get
me
and
then
some
other
people
in
a
transitional
housing
program.
So
it
would
just
so
it
will
separate
between
men
had
their
own
unit
and
then
women
had
their
own
separate
unit.
So
I
think
the
max
amount
of
people,
poor
men
was
like
six
men
per
house.
I
want
to
say
so.
Two
people
per
room
pretty
much.
G
It
was
a
three
bedroom
house,
two
people
per
room
and
then
we
would
have
just
like
caseworkers
just
come
and
check
on
us
and
then
they
were
like.
We
have
them,
I'm
sorry.
We
would
have
give
them
updates
on
our
income
and
things
like
that.
So
that
way
they
can
just
keep
in
our
database
and
then
maybe
they
can
put
that
information
towards
like
any
upcoming,
like
units
that
may
be
available
or
like
our
our
income
range.
So
with
that
being
said,
there
was
a
case
where
they
came
by
earlier.
G
G
I
want
to
say
about
a
month
and
then
we
just
and
then
after
that
it
was,
we
took
a
look
at
the
apartment
to
see
you
know
how
it
looked
and
everything
if
we
liked
it
or
not,
and
then
yeah
eventually
we
moved
in
this
was
back
in
april
of
2014,
but
it
was
really
tough
because
before
that,
before
that
even
happened,
it
was
just
the
fact
that
I
just
needed
somebody
to
give
me
a
chance,
and
it
was
so
hard
because
I
had
no
no
laptop.
G
I
basically
lost
everything
that
I
owned,
so
it
was
kind
of
hard
for
me
to
like
you
know
just
to
try
to
find
where
somebody
can
actually
just
help
me
out.
I
would
just
hop
on
bus
after
bus
to
a
library
just
to
get
computer
access
search
for
any
program
that
was
out
there.
It
was
just
it
was
really
tough,
but
yeah
the
process
took
a
pretty
long
time,
but
once
once
it
was
finished,
it
was
really
smooth.
G
Like
I
said
we
looked,
we
looked
at
the
apartment,
we
put
our
deposit
and
within
like
a
week
I
say
we
moved
in
and
yeah
we've
been
there
ever
since,
but
it
was
a
struggle.
It
was
really
a
struggle
and
then
just
to
adapt,
you
know,
being
inside
of
a
home
again
is
kind
of
a
struggle
too,
because
you've
been
without
home
for
so
long
like
it.
Just
it
just
feels
weird.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
yeah.
That
was,
that
was
the
whole
process,
so.
B
Josh,
when
you
said
I
needed
someone
to
give
me
a
chance
that
that
really
that
really
struck
me
very
hard,
and
one
of
the
things
that
often
happens
between
people
who
are
unhoused
and
people
who
are
housed
is
the
safety
net.
Do
you
have
a
safety
net?
Do
you
have
people
who
can
give
you
a
chance,
and-
and
thank
you
for
lifting
that
up
much
appreciated?
B
B
B
Well,
it's
good
to
have
you
here.
I
thought
you
could
start
with
the
question
we
had
all
our
panelists
start
with.
Tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself,
one
or
two
things:
you'd
like
the
folks
in
here
in
the
room
and
on
zoom
to
know
about
you
and-
and
why
did
you
say
yes,
when
we
asked
you
to
join
this
panel.
H
H
I
graduated
from
smith
college
with
a
degree
in
math.
I
am
an
autism
self-advocate
and
I
wasn't
diagnosed
with
autism
until
I
was
in
my
40s,
I'm
active
as
a
special
olympics
athlete
and
an
athlete
leader
as
a
global
messenger
for
special
olympics.
I
often
empty
events
for
them
and
give
speeches
to
schools
to
promote
inclusion,
as
well
as
to
corporations
to
fundraise
and
encourage
people
to
volunteer.
H
I've
been
on
panels
to
educate,
stanford
medical
students
on
best
practices
in
treating
intellectually
and
or
developmentally
disabled
patients.
I
currently
teach
kindergartners,
2nd
graders
and
3rd
graders
in
an
after
school
program.
Here
in
cupertino
and
additionally,
I
intern
at
differentbrains.org.
H
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
kim
in
a
moment
we'll
transition
to
some
of
the
questions
from
our
audience,
both
in
person
and
on
zoom.
You
still
can
go
ahead
and
submit
questions
if
you're
online
you're
going
to
want
to
private
chat
them
to
gita
or
to
vivian
dang.
Here
in
person,
you
can
just
hand
them
to
our
team
and
they'll
add
them
to
the
list
on
the
screen.
I
want
to
talk
for
a
minute
about
discrimination
and
housing
because
we
haven't
talked
about
that,
but
lee
really
addressed
it
at
the
top.
B
When
we
looked
at
the
images
of
inclusive
housing
versus
exclusive
housing,
and
I'm
wondering
if
any
of
you
can
share
any
experiences
of
discrimination
in
housing
that
you've
had
here
in
the
community
and
does
someone
want
to
go
first
with
that
question.
H
I
I
want
to
talk
about
something,
but
it
might
be
kind
of
like.
I
don't
know
if
it's
well
relevant
to
this
question,
but
it's
kind
of
about
like
stereotypes
about
affordable
housing
and
does
that
fit
into
what
you're
asking.
H
I
think
people
want
us
to
work
these
lower
paying
jobs,
because
the
work
needs
to
be
done,
but
they
want
us
to
live
someplace
else,
and
I
also
people
think
people
have
an
attitude
that
since
they
pay,
they
pay
fair
market
rate.
Everyone
should
do
that,
and
that
includes
low-income
people,
because
they
think
this
is
only
fair
and
bank
when
they
were
having
these
meetings.
You
know
the
city
was
having
these
meetings
about,
like
what
sand
hill
should
change
in
its
velcro
plan.
H
I
really
think
that
people
believe
we're
at
low
income,
because
we
don't
work
hard
and
that
we
don't
want
to
butter
ourselves
and,
based
on
these
things
that
I
have
read
on
nextdoor
there's
also
definitely
a
stereotype
that
homeless
people
are
drug
addicts
or
mentally
ill
and
are
therefore
dangerous.
H
I
I'd
like
black
people
to
you
know
understand
that
young.
You
know
it
can
be
low
income,
but
there
are
reasons
why
I'm
low
income
and,
like
you
know,
talk
to
talk
to
me
and
find
out.
You
know
what
things
are
going
on,
but
why
I
I
am
in
this
category,
because
I
I'm
extremely
low
income,
but
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
for
it
and
I
probably
don't
fit.
You
know
this.
The
stereotype
that
you
may
have
for
someone
in
this
category.
B
F
Sure
yeah,
sorry,
so
my
experience
was
pretty
direct.
I
I
walk
with
the
rollator
a
good
chunk
of
the
time,
especially
when
I'm
going
places
that
that's
a
four
wheel.
Walker,
when
I
am
going
places
that
I
don't
know,
I've
literally
had
people
back
out
of
showing
me
an
apartment
because
of
that
several
times,
and
so
that
was
that
was
pretty
interesting
and
then
other
times
they
were
like.
F
Well
I'll
show
it
to
you
if
you
can
get
there
kind
of
conversation,
so
I'm
like
okay
and
then
yeah,
so
that
that
was
a
pretty
overt
block
of
of
being
able
to
even
look
at
the
housing.
B
Thank
you
mayor.
I
want
to
invite
joshua,
you
want
to
go
next.
G
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
make
one
more
point
about
that
that
question.
You
just
asked
a
big
thing
for
me
when
I
was
trying
to
find
housing.
Is
it
made
it
so
difficult
for
me
to
find
housing
is
one
like
kim
just
mentioned
low
income
and
two
credit
score.
I
don't
know
what
it
is
about
the
credit
score,
but
it's
just
like
if
your
credit
score
is
really
low.
G
Most
people
will
won't
even
talk
to
you
after
that,
like
you
can
fill
out
application,
but
once
they
do
your
credit
report,
it's
pretty
much
a
it's
much
a
wrap
after
that.
So
I,
I
kind
of
think
that's
a
little
bit
unfair
because
for
me,
just
because
you
have
a
low
credit
score
doesn't
mean
you
can't
afford
the
apartment.
You're
trying
to
apply
for
I've
always
had
an
issue
with
that,
and
I
think
that
something
that
that's
got
to
be
looked
at
in
the
future
for
sure.
E
Yeah,
I
kind
of
want
to
piggyback
off
of
what
joshua
said
because
yeah
you
could
you
I
mean
I
worked
for
the
county
of
santa
clara
when
I
was
coming
with
my
family
and
I
was
coming
out
of
being
homeless
and
that
credit
score
prevented
us
from
getting
a
lot
of
into
a
lot
of
nice
spaces
and
they
didn't
care.
E
How
much
I
was
making,
and
you
know
I
was
making
some
decent
amount
of
money,
but
then
you
know
so
I
think
as
far
you
know,
people
when
they
think
about
discrimination,
they
think
about
race
or
gender,
or
I
don't
know
something
like
that,
but
there's
also
financial
discrimination
that
we
have
to
overcome
a
lot
of
times
and
then
also
that
discrimination
of
you
know.
Where
did
you
live
in
the
last
six
months?
E
You
know
I
can't
put.
We
lived
in
my
truck,
you
know
so
trying
to
have
to
come
up
with
something
other
than
telling
a
lie.
You
know,
is
it's
really
hard
it
shouldn't?
You
know
it's
like
you,
you're
pushing
this
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
because
people
you
know
they
they
will
discriminate
against
you
based
upon
where
you
didn't
used
to
live.
B
Thank
thank
you,
avante,
for
sharing
that
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
strikes
me-
and
this
is
going
to
one
of
the
questions
from
our
participants
is
the
challenge
of
maintaining
hope
in
the
face
of
really
insurmountable
odds.
So
I'm
gonna
ask:
let's
start
with
you
josh.
How
did
you
maintain
hope
in
that
period
of
being
unhoused
and
trying
to
work
towards
finding
affordable
housing.
G
I
mean
prayer.
To
be
honest,
I
just
always
had
this
firm
belief
that
my
life
was
not
going
to
be
like
this
and
it
just
it
just
took
a
lot
of
hard
work
and
dedication
and
then
just
persistence.
I
truly
believe
like
if
you're
persistent,
good
things
will
happen
to
you.
G
You
know
I
just
kept
a
good
head
above
my
shoulders
and
you
know
it
also
did
help
me
too,
that
I
was
also
almost
also
homeless
with
my
mom
and
she
always
tried
to
keep
us
even
herself
and
myself
in
good
spirits,
but
yeah
I
mean
just
staying
persistent
and
you
you'll
get
turned
down
here
and
there
I've
been
turned
out
a
lot
so,
but
you
just
got
to
keep
going
you
just
gotta.
B
Thanks
josh,
here's
another
question
from
zoom:
what's
been
the
greatest
housing
challenge,
you've
faced
yvonte,
do
you
want
to
get
us
started.
E
Okay,
basically
finding
someone
to
accept
my
hudback
voucher,
because
when
you
say
voucher,
people
immediately
think
section
8
and
even
though
it's
along
the
same
lines,
it's
a
bit
different.
E
The
only
people
who
can
get
this
voucher
are
veterans,
and
so,
if
you're
turning
me
down,
because
you
think
I'm
gonna,
I
don't
know,
knock
walls
into
your,
you
know
knock
holes
into
your
wall.
You
forget
that
I
volunteer
six
years
of
my
life
to
to
protect
you.
You
know
so
people
so
trying
to
explain
to
people
how
is
different,
but
the
same
as
section
8
was
like
the
biggest
challenge
for
me.
H
B
Other
folks,
on
the
panel
who
want
to
speak
to
this
question,
mayor
or
or
kim.
H
Just
like
there's
no
place
to
apply
to,
because
I
I
don't
have
the
income
to
pay
the
rent
so
just
finding
a
place
to
live,
I
mean
there's
no
apartment,
I'm
sure
everybody's
familiar
with
the
exorbitant
amount
that
you
know.
Apartment
complexes
are
charging
for
their
rent
and
then
they
just
up
it
every
every
every
every
year.
H
F
I
think
that
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
for
me
was
not
only
finding
the
housing,
because
I'm
pretty
good
researcher,
but
it
was
also
the
application
process,
was
very,
very
difficult,
often
tons
of
pages
of
materials,
some
of
which
you
had
things
for
some
of
which
you
didn't
differing
rules
in
every
single
place
that
you
go,
nothing
gets
replicated
so,
in
other
words,
if
you
apply
to
one
place,
you
have
to
go
to
the
next
place
and
you
have
to
do
it
all
over
again
with
about
20
pages
of
documentation
and
then
just
getting
to
those
places
physically
mentally
and
emotionally
was
very
difficult.
F
So
I
think
that
that
was
the
biggest
challenge,
and
then
I
want
to
answer
the
previous
question
of
how
you
keep
going.
Yes,.
I
F
There's
a
piece
there
that
I
really
want
to
underline
and
emphasize,
and
that
is
the
community
of
people
that
are
housing
insecure.
Some
of
the
most
creative
amazing
people
that
I
have
ever
met
in
my
entire
life.
I'm
so
grateful
that
I
get
to
be
a
member
of
that
community
because
they
are
so
incredibly
creative
and
supportive
and
they
will
get
in
there
with
you
and
row
with
whatever
they
have.
So
I
want
to
point
that
out,
as
that
is
an
absolutely
profound
resource.
B
Thank
you
so
much
mayor,
here's
another
question
and
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
put
your
policy
hats
on.
Do
you
thank
you?
Do
you
have
any
speci
exactly
specific
examples
of
policies
or
actions
that
you'd
like
to
see
the
city
of
cupertino
implement
that
would
affirmatively
further
fair
housing
and
I'll
open
it
up
to
whoever
wants
to
talk
first?
Can
I
go
first,
please
javante.
E
Okay,
because
I
don't
know
where
I'm
to
cut
off
one
thing
I
would
like
to
see:
is
application
fees
disappear,
especially
if
I'm
willing
and
able
to
bring
my
own
credit
reports
with
me
and
give
them
to
a
potential
landlord.
E
They
should
I
mean
they're
like
charging
a
hundred
dollars
per
adult
for
an
application
fee
and,
if
you're,
in
a
bad
situation
financially,
you
know
coming
up
with
that
is
almost
impossible.
G
Honestly,
I
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
something's
got
to
change
about
the
waiting
process,
because,
when
you're
on
a
waitlist,
that's
that's
the
definition
waiting
like
you,
don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
be.
I
wish
there
was
a
way
to
at
least
try
to
speed
it
up,
because
I
know
for
my
situation.
The
only
reason
why
I
got
sped
up
because
my
roommate
actually
worked
in
the
city
of
cupertino,
and
but
I
didn't
so
I
don't
know
something
something
on
those
lines
has
to
change.
G
In
my
opinion,
not
just
because
you
work
in
the
city,
you
should
have
like
a
higher
priority.
It
should
be
priorities
like
just
anybody.
You
know
just
try
to
speed
it
up.
I
mean
something
like
that.
You.
F
Yeah,
I'm
definitely
gonna,
say
I'm
sorry
kim.
Do
you
want
to
go
I'll?
Go
after
you
go
ahead,
okay,
so
okay!
Well
done,
I
would
say
centralization
is
kind
of
my
my
key
thing
that
I'd
like
to
see
us
doing
a
much
better
job
of
centralizing.
The
listings,
speaking
to
the
fact
that
there's
no
visibility
to
wait,
lists
and
things
like
that,
but
there's
different
rules
in
each
place.
F
H
Yeah,
I'm
gonna
say
a
couple
things
and
if
you've
already
mentioned
them,
then
just
let
me
know
and
I'll
like
move
on,
but
like
I
did
a
little
bit
of
you
know,
did
a
little
quick
search
on
the
internet.
You
know
to
get
ready
for
this
panel
and
I
found
that
there
are
only
three
affordable
apartment
buildings
apartment
complexes
in
cupertino,
so
that
made
127
units.
H
There's
nine
bmr
point
compartment
complexes
in
cupertino,
that's
190
units
that
I
mean
that's
next
to
nothing
right
and
then
I
hear
about
okay
they're,
going
to
build
a
luxury
hotel
where
the
goodyear
tire
is
and
where
marina
plaza
is
they're.
Putting
in
like
fair
market
condos
for
sale
there
or
something
like
that
with,
like,
I
don't
know,
just
a
couple
of
affordable
housing
units,
and
I
really
think
that
you
know
the
policy
should
be
stop
all
this
fair
market
stuff
stop
building
a
luxury
hotel.
H
We
need
to
put
in
something
with
extremely
low
income:
housing,
low
income,
housing,
affordable
housing-
let's
you
guys
need
us
in
this
community
to
work
these
lower
wage
jobs
and
we
need
housing
for
us.
So,
let's
make
an
effort,
change
the
policy
to
put
in
the
supply
that
that
we
need
when,
when
you're
building
these
things
and
you're,
just
like
okay,
we'll
we'll
put
in
two
affordable
units.
Well,
well,
that's
not
enough,
and
I've
also
heard
that
you
know
if
developers
don't
want.
H
B
Wonderful,
thank
you
kim.
I
literally
could
spend
quite
a
long
time
talking
to
the
four
of
you
and
learning
from
the
four
of
you.
Unfortunately,
this
is
only
an
hour
and
a
half
program.
Now
I
know
a
lot
of
you
online
and
in
person
ask
questions
that
were
not
answered.
They
will
be
answered,
we'll
send
out
an
email
with
the
questions
and
the
full
poll
data
after
tonight's
program.
So
rest
assured
we
will
get
to
all
of
your
questions,
even
if
we
can't
get
to
them
right
now
during
the
program.
B
E
I
would
like
everybody
to
get
involved
in
a
positive
way.
You
know
be
advocates
for
people
who
who
don't
have.
I
don't
know,
maybe
the
courage
to
be
advocates
for
themselves
because
a
lot
of
times
you
hear
you
know
you
hear
people
the
liars
when
they're
complaining,
but
it
would
be
really
nice
to
hear
people
really
be
loud
when
they're
when
they're
speaking
up
for
like
the
homeless
and
the
potential.
You
know
people
who
are
at
risk
for
being
homeless,
so
yeah
get
involved.
H
How
about
you,
I
kind
of
already
thought
about
this
just
a
minute
ago,
but
I
I
also
think
that
what
he
just
said
is
really
important
like
if,
on
nextdoor
support,
support
people,
instead
of
just
like
saying,
oh
go
someplace,
these
people
need
to
go
someplace
else.
You
know
I
just
want
to
say.
People
may
not
realize
that
if
you
want
a
store
to
have
someone
working
the
register
and
stalking
the
shelves,
if
you
want
somebody
to
take
your
order,
wash
your
table
wash
your
dishes
at
a
restaurant.
H
G
Yeah,
I
think
javante
made
some
great
points
earlier,
but
I
think
for
me
it's
just
like
I
mean
we're
all
human
I
mean
just
because
we're
in
different
income
brackets
doesn't
make
us
any
less
of
a
human
being
compared
to
compared
to
everybody
else.
You
know
we
may
not
have
the
same
income
as
you,
but
we
all
have
aspirations
and
hopes
you
know
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
in
life,
and
you
know
we
just
it's
just
like
a
level
of
respect.
F
I
think
that
I
think
that,
where
what
we're
doing
right
now,
I
want
us
to
do
more
of
this.
I
want
us
to
be
able
to
actually
have
the
conversations
so
that
you
can
speak
with
people
who
have
differences
from
you,
so
that
you
can
start
to
understand
that
maybe
the
differences
aren't
exactly
what
you
thought
that
they
were
and
also
that
we
can
be
interconnected.
F
I
just
want
to
emphasize
communities
that
are
integrated,
that
are
that
first
picture
on
on
that
and
scene.
I
can't
remember
what
we
were
saying:
the
diversity
image
at
the
very
top
that
they're
really
amazingly
fun,
creative
and
full
of
light.
Yes,
they
have
problems,
but
so
do
the
communities
that
are
isolated.
F
B
B
Those
are
some
of
the
takeaways
just
a
very
small
kernel
of
takeaway
from
our
amazing
panel.
If
we
can
do
virtual
rounds
of
applause
or
feel
free
to
in-person
round
of
applause
as
well,
we
can
hear
that
too.
Hopefully,
you
all
hear
the
love,
there's
lots
of
love
in
the
room.
Thank
you
all
for
making
the
time
to
be
here
with
us
tonight
and
with
that.
I'm
gonna
turn
the
program
over
to
kristen
from
emc
planning.
I
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
give
all
of
you
a
chance,
sorry
to
reflect
on
a
couple
of
the
questions
that
you're
going
to
go
back
to
your
breakout
room,
I'll,
read
them.
What
impact
did
hearing
from
the
panelists
have
on
your
thoughts,
around
housing,
housing
element
and
representation,
and
what
barriers
and
unmet
needs
did
you
hear
from
the
panelists?
I
B
So
those
questions
are
in
the
chat
for
those
of
you
online
who
are
moving
into
rooms
for
us
here,
you're
going
to
move
back
to
your
tables,
we'll
have
about
18
minutes
table
1,
table
2,
and
if
you
weren't
on
a
table,
you
can
now
move
to
table
3,
which
is
down
here
in
the
corner.
During
the
last
five
minutes
of
your
breakout
session,
we
have
a
survey
for
you
to
fill
out
online
or
in
person.
Please
we
very
much
need
your
feedback,
so
please
take
a
minute
to
fill
out
that
survey.
B
Okay,
we're
going
to
pick
up
again
folks
and
conclude
this
evening's
program.
I
do
hear
the
folks
in
the
room
having
really
interesting
conversations
so
I'll
start
with
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
folks
in
the
room.
If
you
didn't
have
a
chance
to
fill
out
the
polls.
Please
pick
up
a
poll
before
you
leave
tonight.
There
they'll
be
at
the
front
desk
where
you
checked
in.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
fill
out
the
survey
we
sent
you
if
you
didn't
finish
the
survey
in
person
or
online.
B
Now,
that's
fine,
but
please
take
a
moment
to
fill
it
out
and
submit
it.
Maybe
just
after
this
meeting
before
you
forget
about
it,
we
know
what
happens
after
we
leave
things.
They
just
end
up
as
an
open
tab
on
our
browser
and
then
we're
not
sure
what
that
tab
was
for.
So
please
go
ahead,
we'll
be
sending
out
some
links
in
the
chat,
as
we
finish
up
tonight
for
folks
who
are
in
the
room,
we'll
be
providing
qr
codes
for
you
to
see
those
links
as
well.
B
So
you
have
all
the
same
information.
I
wanna
again
thank
all
the
folks
who
participated
in
tonight's
program,
our
hosts
here
at
the
city
of
cupertino
luke
connelly.
Thank
you
so
much
our
partners
at
emc
planning,
andy
and
lee.
Thank
you
all
so
much
our
team
at
west
valley
community
services
led
by
kylie
our
public
policy
coordinator
who's
here
in
the
room,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
again
our
incredible
panel.
Thank
you
for
being
here
tonight.
B
We
are
going
to
end
with
a
couple
of
poll
questions
before
I
do
that.
I
do
want
to
talk
to
the
slide.
You
see
in
front
of
you-
and
our
speakers
mentioned
this
tonight
as
well-
we're
doing
this
because
it's
so
important
for
you
to
be
involved
in
this
conversation
as
stakeholders
in
the
city
of
cupertino.
B
So
please
raise
your
voice,
engage
in
the
conversation
of
conversation
around
the
housing
element
around
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
But
how
do
you
do
that?
Well,
there's
a
link
to
visit
online
on
the
city
of
cupertino's
housing
element
site.
You
can
sign
up
for
the
housing
element
newsletter
newsletter.
You
can
complete
the
cupertino
housing
simulator
and
there's
planning
commissions
and
city
council
meetings
to
attend
as
well.
B
Talk
to
your
friends
and
neighbors
share
your
thoughts,
your
questions,
your
ideas,
anything
that
came
up
for
you
in
your
group
or
in
the
conversation
this
evening
now
we're
gonna
end
with
a
couple
of
poll
questions.
So
if
we
can
launch
our
first
poll
question
on
a
scale
from
1
to
10,
how
strong
of
a
sense
do
you
think
you
have
of
people's
experience
related
to
housing?
B
Now,
at
the
end
of
the
program
again
for
folks
in
the
room,
you
can
fill
that
in
person
you're
getting
it
now
from
kylie,
but
go
ahead
on
a
scale
of
one
to
ten
one
very
little
ten,
the
most.
How
strong
of
a
sense
do
you
think
you
have
now
of
other
people's
experience
related
to
housing?
B
That's
our
first
closing
question
and
why
don't
we
share
those
results,
because
I
know
we're
running
a
little
bit
long
and
I
I
would
say,
while
not
seeing
the
starting
questions,
seeing
that
there
are
a
number
of
people
who
marked
seven
eight,
nine
and
ten,
which
is
more
than
fifty
percent
of
our
attendees.
We
have
definitely
moved
that
bar
northward,
which
is
awesome.
Our
second
question
is:
how
much
do
you
know
now
about
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
and
it's
the
same
question.
I'm
hoping
no
one
marks.
B
B
Yes,
some
or
a
lot,
which
is
great.
I
there's
a
little
trickster
in
here.
I've
never
heard
of
it
funny
funny
it's
good
to
keep
your
sense
of
humor,
and
our
last
question
is
what
is
one
thing:
you're
gonna
do
now
to
get
involved
with
the
cupertino
housing
element,
and
this
is
an
important
question,
because
studies
show
that
if
you
pick
something
specific
and
concrete,
you
are
more
likely
to
do
it.
B
So
what
are
some
of
those
things
or
one
of
those
things
or
all
those
things
that
you're
going
to
do
to
get
involved
with
the
housing
element
and
as
an
added
bonus,
I
would
say
once
you
come
into
that
thing.
Tell
a
friend
tell
a
family
member,
because
not
only
is
writing
it
down
committing
to
it
verbally,
but
telling
someone
makes
it
even
more
likely
that
you're
going
to
do
it.
B
Let's
see
those
results,
so
we
have
27,
say
they're
gonna
attend
a
planning,
commission
or
city
council
meeting
13
are
going
to
visit
the
housing
element
website.
27
are
going
to
attend
a
housing
element.
Community
meeting
13
are
going
to
speak
with
at
least
front
three
friends
or
neighbors
about
the
housing
element
and
20.
Our
overachievers
are
gonna.
Do
all
of
the
above
last
call.
B
Please
do
make
sure
that
you
fill
out
those
surveys
here
either
here
in
the
room
or
online
and
the
poll
questions
you
will
get
an
email
following
up
to
tonight
with
answers
to
your
additional
questions.
We
didn't
cover
and
some
additional
information
about
getting
involved.
If
you
have
any
questions,
you
can
always
reach
out
to
kylie
clark
at
kylie
c
wvcommunityservices.org,
and
she
will
point
you
in
the
direction
of
the
person
who
can
answer
your
question
and
you'll
receive
that
email
tomorrow
or
wednesday
for
those
of
you
still
online.
B
I
want
to
thank
you
all
again.
You
all
have
so
many
competing
interests
and
demands
and
responsibilities
that
you
joined
us
tonight
means
that
this
is
important
to
you
and
you
care.
I
encourage
you
to
get
involved,
raise
your
voice
participate
in
the
conversation
and
we
look
forward
to
having
you
join
us
for
more
of
the
this
work
around
the
housing
element
and
the
city
of
cupertino.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
good
night.