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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - March 1, 2022 (Part 3)
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Coverage of the March 1, 2022 Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting. Part 3 of 3.
A
Okay
good,
so
I
have
a
request
from
our
city
manager
to
move
item
12
to
march
15th.
That's
our
housing
element
item,
and
so
I
think
it's
better
that
we
consider
that
at
this
point,
as
opposed
to
possibly
waiting
up
to
another
hour
and
then
making
that
decision
so
that
we
can
be
considerate
of
the
public's
and
our
consultants
time.
So
let
me
let
me
let
me
engage
the
temperature
of
council
here.
A
A
B
A
B
A
D
A
E
F
E
A
Basically,
okay!
Well
let
me
let
me
do
this,
then,
since
the
item
is
being
proposed
for
a
continuation
and
I'm
you
know
basically
taking
a
procedural
vote
here.
Let's
so
advise
our
members
of
the
public
with
their
hands
raised
this.
If
this
motion
passes,
this
will
continue
to
march
15th,
and
you
can
make
your
comment
on
the
item
at
that
time.
So,
madam
city
clerk,
if
you
could
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
on
this
motion.
A
B
B
A
Okay,
so
you're
pulling
your
second
of
the
motion,
which
is,
I
I
think
within
your
right.
The
reason
I'm
trying
to
bring
this
right
now
is
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
holding
on
to
people
another
hour
who
are
here
for
item
number
12..
However,
I'm
I'm
reluctant
to
have
a
substantive
discussion
on
this
at
this
point,
and
so
you
know
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
substitute
not
substitute,
rather
I'm
going
to.
A
C
A
A
F
A
A
A
A
Okay,
well
we're
now
on.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
are
now
on
item
12.
item.
12
is
the
progress
update
of
the
housing
element,
update
and
review,
discuss
and
approve
selection
of
stakeholders.
Group
is
the
is
the
subject
as
written
in
our
agenda.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
hand
it
over
to
our
city
manager,
jim
jim
troop.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
the
staff
member
that
will
be
introducing
or
presenting
the
presentation
on
the
side?
Thank.
D
Thank
you
see,
manager,
troupe
and
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
for
the
introduction
of
the
item
good
evening
city
council
members
ben
food
director
of
community
development
with
me
tonight.
We
have
one
consultant
in
the
flower
from
a
emc
planning
group,
as
well
as
the
project
coordinator,
senior
planner,
lou,
connolly
and
planning
manager.
Pugosh
both
are
from
the
plane
division
within
our
development
department.
D
D
We
had
a
housing
commission
meeting
a
couple
planning
commission
meetings
supposed
to
have
a
third
plane
commission
meeting
on
the
subject
of
the
the
site's
analysis
this
past
monday
yesterday,
but
due
to
a
short
term
around
time,
that's
being
pushed
out
for
a
little
bit
so
tonight.
What
we
intend
on
doing
is
provide
an
update
and
also
have
the
discussion
on
the
stakeholders,
membership
group
membership
decision
for
you
to
make
with
that.
I
think
I
will
hand
off
to
to
andy
flower
principal
for
emc
planning
group
to
continue
the
bulk
of
this.
H
H
H
And
we'll
be
discussing
next
steps,
we'll
also,
I
can't
seem
to
progress
my
slide,
I'm
not
sure
why
it
worked
a
minute
ago.
There
we
go
so
our
presentation
this
evening,
we'll
be
talking
just
briefly
about
the
site's
inventory,
progress
and
next
steps,
we'll
review
this
stakeholder
group,
and
we
have
some
questions
for
council
and
we
welcome
feedback.
We'll
also
be
discussing
a
little
bit
about
next
steps
within
with
community
engagement,
and
as
I
mentioned,
we
welcome
your
feedback.
H
One
of
the
newest
pieces
of
information
that
we've
brought
forward
to
the
planning
commission
and
to
the
public
is
an
understanding
of
where
the
schools
are
in
relationship
to
where
households
are
with
children,
and
this
is
only
one
component
of
of
many
factors
that
we're
considering
as
we
consider
expanding
our
sites
list.
What
we
see
here
in
purple
are
all
sites
within
the
city
that
are
between
one
half
acre
and
10
acres,
which
is
sort
of
the
minimum
category
by
which
hcd
recognizes
a
site
as
reasonable.
H
We
will
be
culling
this
list,
but
we
wanted
to
go
as
broad
as
possible.
Initially,
we
understand
that
there
are
a
number
of
pipeline
projects
that
are
underway
that
have
been
entitled
but
are
awaiting
building
permit
issuance
those
sites.
We
will
factor
into
our
our
program
and
process
and
we'll
be
bringing
that
forward,
as
staff
is
able
to
bring
us
a
fully
and
not
just
us,
but
also
counsel,
with
their
annual
progress
report
to
hcd.
H
H
H
So
stakeholder
group
we
are,
we
have
moved
forward.
Our
stakeholder
group
application.
We
received
many
applicants.
Excuse
me,
we
received
30
applications
for
for
the
stakeholder
group
and
we
also
included
with
your
packet
an
hcd
letter
to
monterey
park
and
this
the
these
two
quotes
from
that
letter.
H
We're
hoping
maybe
help
help
all
of
you.
The
public
and
council,
understand
what
our
intent
has
been
for
this
stakeholder
group.
It's
maybe
a
little
outside
of
what
has
been
typical
in
the
past,
but
this
is
information
that
was
brought
to
monterey
park
as
a
revision
request
letter
from
hcd,
and
it
says
the
elements
should
describe
any
specific
outreach
efforts
to
organizations
that
represent
special
needs
populations
or
members
of
protected
classes,
and
that
the
city
should
conduct
targeted
stakeholder
interviews
or
establish
a
committee
representative
of
lower
income
and
special
needs.
H
Households
in
future
public
outreach
efforts.
What
we've
heard
through
attending
webinars
and
and
learning
from
those
who
have
had
early
certification
rounds
with
hcd
is
that,
as
as
much
as
as
the
new
information
is
being
reviewed
in
southern
california
and
and
that
the
the
stakes
are
high
and
the
the
expectations
are
high
with
each
round
those
expectations
become
even
higher.
In
other
words,
hcd
is
expecting
each
region
to
learn
from
the
region
prior.
H
H
We
did
a
blind
test
among
four
on
our
team,
including
sub
consultants,
in
both
the
design
and
diversity
fields,
and
we
included
those
notes
for
the
top
25
out
of
the
30
applicants
and
as
a
a
blind
counting
up
of
the
scores.
These
are
the
top
ten
that
we
found.
Two
are
candidates
with
the
lived
experience
similar
to
desired
diversity
stated
for
stakeholder
groups.
H
And
though
they
are
likely
to
be
the
people
in
need
of
increased
housing
opportunities,
again,
I'm
happy
to
discuss
that
if
there
are
any
questions
about
that,
we
also
are
suggesting
that
if,
if
the
council
so
pleases,
there
were
an
additional
three
candidates
that
that
were
close
runners
up
to
the
top
10
and
those
were
numbered.
18,
26
and
28
within
your
packet,
and
these
three
in
in
short
description,
represent
a
teacher.
A
nurse
and
a
neighborhood
volunteer
from
the
neighborhood
of
monte
vista.
H
I
I
do
want
to
be
clear
that
the
the
neighborhood
of
monte
vista
was
one
of
the
ones
that
was
in
the
blue
circle.
So
this
is
an
area
that
will
be
a
concentration
for
further
discussion
for
potential,
if
not
sites,
possibly
sites,
but
also.
Otherwise
there
are
policies
that
that
can
be
considered
for
that
area
for
no
net
loss,
so
ways
to
participate.
H
This
is
the
website
listed
in
case
those
there's
anybody
out
there
who
hasn't
seen
it.
Please
drop
us
a
message
and
and
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you
and
to
work
with
you
throughout
this
process,
so
for
council
feedback,
a
couple
of
questions
we're
wanting
to
know
if
you
approve
the
stakeholder
group
list,
we're
happy
to
answer
questions.
If
you
would
like
us
to
amend
the
list.
Add
three
or
more
candidates
and-
and
we
request
any
guidance
that
you
might
have
for
planning
commission
next
steps
with
sites
inventory.
H
A
You
share
your
screen
and
show
the
public
and
account
of
course,
of
course,
okay
great!
Thank
you.
So
so,
let's
do
this.
Let's
go
to
our
members
of
the
public
to
give
us
some
feedback
here
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
council,
starting
with
councilmember
way,
who
has
a
hand
raised
already
for
questions
and
comments,
and
so
I
see
one
member
of
the
public
now
two
now
three
with
their
hands
raised
and
so
same
procedure.
Please
have
your
hand
raised
by
the
time
the
first
member
of
the
public
is
done.
A
A
I
I
Okay,
good,
I'm
sorry!
Yes,
I'm
I
would
have
preferred.
This
item
had
been
postponed.
You
know
to
start
it
at
an
earlier
time.
I
have
very
very
grave
concerns
about
this
entire
process
of
you
all
are
aware
I'll
just
start
out
quickly.
My
one
question
which
I
do
want
answered
tonight,
is
whether
the
public
can
attend
these
stakeholder
meetings.
I
want
that
answered
tonight.
That
is
my
one
concern
I,
the
second
is
that
we
all
need
to
go
through
all
the
sites.
I
I
am
not
willing
to
have
a
stakeholder
group
make
the
decisions
that
the
public
should
be
having
about
these
sites.
This
is
the
fourth
housing
element
round.
I
have
gone
through
with
this
city
since
2001,
since
I
came
out
of
the
county
with
my
neighborhood
and
I
we
have
never
had
a
stakeholder
group
before
we
don't
need
one.
The
public
is
capable.
We
have
spent
our
time
and
hours
going
through
meetings
until
four
o'clock
in
the
morning.
I
do
not
think
that
we
need
a
stakeholder
group,
it's
it's
like.
I
Let's
hide
it
from
the
public
and
also
we
need
to
go
through
these
sites.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
start
out
right
now.
If
you're
not
aware
santa
monica's
housing
element
was
denied
by
hdc.
Recently,
today,
the
city
of
los
angeles
was
denied
by
hcd
hcd
said
to
them.
You
can
rezone
by
october
and
rezone
250
000
sites,
which
is
the
ridiculous
hcd
numbers
that
they
have
said.
This
is
a
vehicle
for
rapid
rezoning.
I
I
don't
know
what
road
we're
going
down
here
with
this
with
the
way
sacramento
is
acting
or
hcd.
This
is
like
causing
bedlam
in
the
city
councils.
Saratoga
right
now
is
so
desperate.
They
are
possibly
going
to
rezone
villa
montalvo
and
they
would
probably
throw
haqqani
gardens
in
there
too.
What
are
we
doing?
What
road
to
disaster
are
we
on?
I
I
just
cannot.
I
I
understand
the
city
is
trying
desperately
we're
like
a
hamster
on
a
wheel,
but
we
are
being
used
by
our
state,
and
I
cannot
condone
hcd
using
this
like
a
donkey
with
a
cart
like
putin
to
try
to
force
rezoning
in
this
in
this
this
state.
I
don't
know
how
much
time
I
have.
I
can't
find
okay,
nine
seconds.
This
is
an
abomination.
A
J
Good
evening,
mayor
paul
and
council
members,
this
is
allison
singlani,
with
sd
at
home.
I'd
like
to
first
thank
council
member
willie
for
attending
the
sv
at
home,
county-wide
housing
element
roundtable
for
mayors
and
council
members.
It
was
a
great
conversation
on
behalf
of
sd
at
home,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
council
staff
and
consultant
team
for
an
excellent
list
of
the
top
10
candidates
for
the
housing
element
stakeholder
group
as
a
significant
part
of
a
robust
stakeholder
engagement
process.
J
Stakeholders
are
key
to
showing
the
required
diligent
effort
to
include
public
participation
from
all
economic
segments
of
the
community
and
to
understanding
the
needs
of
community
members
who
may
be
less
likely
to
come
to
a
council
meeting
or
engagement
event
and
speak
up
to
that
end.
Hcd
specifically
requires
that
key
stakeholders
engaged
in
the
housing
element
process
include
community
members
who
are
lower
income,
people
and
households
with
special
needs.
Members
of
protected
classes,
advocacy
organizations
such
as
those
who
work
with
residents
experiencing
homelessness,
independent
living,
centers,
public
housing
authorities,
developers
and
advocacy
groups.
J
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
time
around,
there
have
been
changes
in
the
housing
element,
process
and
housing
law
that
make
this
a
lot
more
challenging
for
staff
and
consultants
than
it
has
been
in
the
past.
Ensuring
the
process
meets
the
standards
it's
required
to
in
as
many
ways
as
possible
will
help
cupertino
minimize
the
back
and
forth
with
hcd
saving
you
time
and
money
and
freeing
up
staff
and
resources.
J
The
investment
of
time
and
effort
and
doing
this
right
is
critical
for
addressing
the
housing
crisis
and
the
prosperity
of
the
city
and
our
communities
depends
on
addressing
the
housing
crisis
we've
seen
over
the
course
of
the
pandemic,
and
even
before
that
that
people
are
leaving,
families
are
leaving
young
adults.
Who've
grown
up
here
can't
afford
to
stay,
and
people
are
even
being
forced
into
homelessness.
J
Sometimes
we
think
of
protecting
our
community
as
preserving
it
as
it
is,
but
the
housing
element
is
an
investment
and
protecting
our
community's
future
by
planning
for
the
needs
of
a
diverse
economy.
Now,
following
the
law
adhering
to
the
process,
is
going
to
result
in
a
housing
element,
that's
more
likely
to
achieve
success
and
meeting
the
community's
need
for
housing
in
cupertino.
K
K
The
first
meeting
for
the
group
was
supposed
to
be
january,
11th
and,
as
alison
just
mentioned,
the
sooner
you
get
that
started
the
hopefully
the
more
community
input
you
will
get.
Outreach
has
been
an
issue
we
now
have.
We
had
45
people
attending
this
meeting
earlier
when
it
was
about
an
access
point
to
a
trail
and
now
there's
15,
which
is
actually
a
large
number
for
this
point,
actually
for
a
meeting
at
all.
Lately.
K
Which
is
sort
of
sad,
but
at
least
it's
more
than
the
three
or
four
that
are
normally
up
there.
So
I'm
glad
it
wasn't
postponed.
I'm
glad
that
there's
some
progress
being
made
in
selecting
stakeholders
meeting
and
I
mean
group-
and
it
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
me
being
on
the
list.
It
just
needs
to
be
done
and-
and
I
truly
believe
that
these
meetings
need
to
be
in-person
meetings
with
the
stakeholder
group,
not
zoom
meetings.
Much
more
can
be
done.
K
K
L
Good
evening,
mayor
paul
and
council
members-
well,
I
hadn't
really
planned
on
speaking
on
this
item.
I
was
planning
on
listening,
however,
with
allison's
excellent
introduction
to
the
needs
of
the
housing
element.
I
can't
top
that,
but
I
have
looked
through
the
entire
list
of
candidates
and,
frankly,
I'm
quite
impressed
with
the
list
of
stakeholders
that
andy
and
his
staff
put
together.
L
I
think
it
is
well
representative
of
the
people
who
need
how
to
save
now,
I'm
not
particularly
well
represented,
but
then
again
I'm
a
homeowner.
I've
lived
here
in
cupertino
for
almost
30
of
30
years,
or
so
we
need
to
be
listening
to
the
voices
of
those
that
we
want
to
attract
into
our
city
to
revitalize
it
right
now
it's
stagnant,
oh,
it
is
so
stagnant.
I
think
there
were
like
four
houses
changed
hands
last
week.
You
know
we
can't
maintain
our
city
at
that
level.
L
So
I
urge
you
to
move
ahead
with
this
housing
element
and
lisa
hit
it
on
the
head.
We
need
to
get
moving.
Please
don't
mix
up
choosing
the
stakeholder
group
with
the
housing
inventory.
There
are
two
different
processes.
This
is
going
to
it's
a
very
complex
process.
It's
going
to
have
to
come
together
and
it's
easier
if
you
bite
it
off
in
chunks
and
then
bring
it
together
at
the
end.
Thank
you.
M
Sorry
about
that,
my
bad,
my
name
is
neil
park
mcclintock
and
I'm
speaking
as
the
president
of
cupertino
for
all
today.
First,
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
and
the
consulting
team
for
pursuing
a
housing
element
stakeholder
group
in
the
first
place.
The
stakeholder
group
is
not
in
itself
sufficient
in
terms
of
community
outreach,
it
doesn't
meet
hcd
standards,
but
it's
a
good
idea
that
deserves
to
be
well
executed
for
the
selection
of
this
body.
M
M
N
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
Actually,
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
the
consultants,
but
first
I'd
like
to
thank
the
consultants,
because
I
think
their
job
is
to
make
sure
our
city's
housing
elements
complies
with
std
guidelines
and
can
pass
successfully
this
state
holder
group.
My
question
for
the
consultant
is
because
there
are
consulting
looking
at
other
housing
elements.
As
being
you
know,
hd
letters
regarding
them
this
stakeholder
group
is
it
to
make
sure
that
our
process,
our
our
housing
element
process
comes,
you
know,
complies
with
the
affirmative
furthering
housing
act.
N
That's
my
first
question.
The
second
question:
I
think
the
resident
asked
they.
Oh
everybody
wants
a
voice,
so
even
with
this
housing
stakeholder
group,
every
resident
still
has
their
voice
listened
to
that's
the
second
question
I
have
for
the
staff
for
the
consultant.
The
third
one
is,
I
don't
think
this
state.
This
group
is
a
secret
group,
so
it's
probably
should
be
open,
accessible
or
people
can
listen
into
it
and
the
third
is
the
three
other
members
that's
consulted.
N
A
H
Yes,
I'm
happy
to
do
so.
Thank
you,
councilmember
way
for
your
questions.
They're
very
enlightening,
and
I
appreciate
your
support
and
yes,
indeed,
we
are
wanting
to
bring
cupertino
into
compliance
with
hcd.
That
is
our
highest
priority,
and
in
doing
so,
we
want
to
be
mindful
of
all
the
new
affh
laws
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
learned
in
in
our
webinars
and
in
talking
with
hcd
they're
telling
us
they
they
want
us
to
get
caught,
trying
trying
new
things.
So
there
is
no
one-size-fits-all.
H
H
People
want
to
share
a
location
that
they
would
like
us
to
consider
for
a
site
and
then,
through
our
second
iteration
of
our
mapping
exercise,
there
will
be
multiple
new
ways
to
participate
and
to
share
specifically
about
sites,
and
that's
only
the
first
piece
of
the
puzzle
we'll
be
moving
on
to
policies.
It's
just
that
we're
very
site-centric
initially,
because
we
need
our
sites
list
in
order
for
our
environmental
analysis
to
begin
and
that's
a
nine-month
process.
H
So
that's
if
we
seem
like
we're
in
a
bit
of
a
hurry,
it's
because
we
we're
trying
to
make
this
deadline.
If,
if
we
don't
make
this
deadline,
we
do
understand
that
there
aren't
as
many
consequences
as
there
once
was
in
large
part,
because
as
another
commenter
mentioned,
that
hcd
is
recognizing
it's.
This
isn't
an
easy
pass
and,
and
they
want
us
to
slow,
they
would
rather
slow
down,
and-
and
do
it
well,
particularly
with
affh.
N
H
It's
certainly
a
transparent
process
and
we'll
be
working
with
the
city
to
understand
how
the
technology
they
have
available,
what
sort
of
availability
we'll
have
for
enabling
that
transparency,
in
other
words,
whether
or
not
it
would
be
a
recorded
meeting
that
where
people
can
comment
that
would
certainly
be
lovely
if
we
can
make
that
happen
with
the
technology
that's
available.
But
the
details
haven't
yet
been
discussed.
A
H
E
H
Oh,
I
was
just
gonna
say
they're,
certainly
advising
us
as
consultants
and
and
that's
what
we'll
be
making
sure
we
clarify,
as
as
we
communicate
to
hcd,
and
how
the
policies
that
we're
coming
up
with
are
tied
directly
to
the
needs,
and
that
has
been
the
number
one
problem
that
southern
california
cities
have
run
into.
70
of
the
hcd
letters
have
focused
on
a
disconnect
between
an
understanding
of
the
needs
and,
and
the
policy
and
and
sites
are
much
less
of
an
issue
in
in
the
city
of
cupertino.
B
H
B
Okay,
so
actually
I
went
back
to
look
at
the
november
16th
meeting
when
this
was
first
on
the
council
agenda,
and
it
was
never
mentioned
that
the
stakeholder
meeting
will
be
used
for
the
purpose
of
affirmatively,
furthering
housing
and
the
directions
or
comments
from
the
council
at
that
time
were
like
face-based
groups
and
different
kind
of
groups.
My
concern
right
now
is:
you
are
changing
the
direction
from
the
council
midterm,
maybe
because
of
lack
of
update
to
the
council.
B
So
it
was
a
surprise
to
me
now
if
we
for
the
purpose
of
affirmatively
further
furthering
housing,
I
think
the
current
format,
I'm
very
concerned
that
the
the
commitment
we
are
asking
the
applicant
for
eight
hours,
commitment
to
for
each
meeting,
is
turning
away
a
lot
of
people
who
could
have
provided
the
comments
and
also,
if
we
include
one
senior,
this
one
senior
doesn't
represent
all
the
seniors.
We
are
falling
to
the
false
perception
that
somehow
one
person
with
a
certain
identity
represent
everyone.
B
I
think
I
thought
initially
the
targeted
the
stakeholder
group
as
the
monterey
park
direction
says
it
should.
It
would
not
be
it's
not
achieved
by
this
stakeholder
group.
The
target
to
the
stakeholder
interviews
would
be,
for
example,
we
invite
a
group
of
seniors
interview
them.
A
group
of
house
people
interview
them
a
group
of
renters
of
different
ages
interview
them.
We
get
a
restaurant,
a
spectrum
of
views,
not
just
one
person,
represent
the
group.
B
So
that's
my
concern,
I
yeah
and
then
also.
I
have
made
a
request
to
the
staff
that
in
every
housing
element
meeting,
we
should
share
correct
housing
element
data
for
the
current
cycle,
so
that
the
public
doesn't
have
misinformation
as
they
seem
to
have
every
time.
So
this
is
the
five
housing
element
sites
we
have
in
the
current
cycle
and
they
are
all
approved.
B
The
first
perception
that
somehow
cupertino
choose
sites
that
can
are
not
suitable
for
housing
is
false
and
a
total,
even
though
our
allocation,
this
cycle
is
a
thousand
about
a
thousand
units.
We
approved
almost
3
500
units
and
way
out
of
these
3
500
units.
Unfortunately,
only
300
something
units
is
filled,
but
with
the
100
location,
our
performance
is
about
30
percent.
I
think
someone
said
like
four
percent
last
time.
I
hope-
and
this
is
only
the
data
from
early
2020,
so
it
doesn't
include
the
westport
and
all
the
other
newly
new
projects
were
approved.
B
B
F
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
paul,
so
I
I'm
wondering
who
the
it
looked
like
los
gatos
planning,
commissioner,
and
somebody
who
worked
for
west
valley.
Community
services
got
on
your
list,
but
when
I
look
at
the
list
of
your
top
10,
I'm
not
seeing
the
name
and
I've
pulled
up
the
planning
commission
agenda
out
of
los
gatos,
and
I
should
be
able
to
see
that
name.
F
So
I'm
a
little
surprised
that
you're
spending
most
of
your
time,
working
with
west
valley,
community
services
and
not
talking
to
the
city,
also
with
regards
to
outreach.
If
you
look
at
the
saratoga
website
for
their
housing
element,
they've
got
at
least
four
postcards
been
sent
out
to
their
community
in
english
and
chinese.
I
believe
we've
had
one
postcard
go
out
here.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
that
the
the
outreach
has
not
been
good,
I
am
very
concerned
about
the
stakeholder
group.
F
So
that's
pretty
concerning
so
personally
I'd,
rather
that
the
stakeholders
attend
the
meetings
and
on
equal
footing
with
the
rest
of
the
residents
and
that
the
outreach
is
brought
up
to
the
standards
of
saratoga,
for
instance,
in
two
different
languages,
at
least
in
order
to
bring
more
people
in
into
the
group
and
and
really
improve
that
that
outreach.
So
I'm
going
to
start
start
with
those
comments
and
and
then
move
on
in
a
minute.
Thank
you.
A
O
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
I'll
start
with
just
a
a
couple
comments
on
what
I
feel
you
know.
We,
as
elected
officials,
truly
have
to
understand.
You
know
we.
We
were
chosen
by
the
community
to
represent
them
and
we
need
to
be
sure
that
what
we're
doing
to
the
absolute
best
is
going
to
meet
with
the
community.
O
O
That
being
said,
we
have
a
mandate
from
sacramento
and
we
understand
the
importance
of
it,
and
we
understand
that
it's
going
to
have
a
big
impact
on
this
community,
so
that's
kind
of
the
overall.
You
know
now
to
some
of
the
specifics
I
I
do.
I
was
going
to
toss
out
when
I
looked
at
the
stakeholder
list
to
me.
It
just
doesn't
have
enough
individuals
to
to
truly
be
statistically
significant,
and
so
I
was
going
to
suggest
at
a
bare
minimum
that
there
be
three
and
they
could
all
be
working.
O
O
But
I
actually
like
what
vice
mayor
said:
get
a
stakeholder
group
that
represents
the
different
groups
within
the
community,
a
group
of
seniors,
a
a
group
of
renters.
You
know
such
that
each
of
those
groups,
even
10,
I
think,
would
still
be
marginal
in
terms
of
statistically
meaningful
for
the
overall
64
000
people
in
cupertino.
O
What
density
we're
going
to
be
having
what
what
types
of
bmr
or
vli
we're
going
to
be
having
to
try
and
meet
these
state
mandates
within
the
the
best
that
we
can
for
the
community?
That's
here
so
I
hope,
and
the
and
a
tie
a
timeline
would
really
help
flash
that
at
the
beginning
of
any
of
our
meetings,
I
think
is
very
helpful.
The
finance
tends
to
do
it
where
they
show.
O
A
Thanks
john
a
little
over
four
minutes
there,
so
let
me
go
ahead
and
bring
it
back
to
vice
mayor
ciao
before
I
do
that,
let
me
let
me
just
say
you
know,
for
the
stakeholder
group
meetings.
I
am
a
bit
compelled
by
the
notion
of
if
we're
able
to
do
it
having
live
meetings
so
that
people
can
have
more
of
that
direct
interaction.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
I
actually
like
the
way
it
worked
with
the
volca
specific
plan.
I
think
we,
the
the
consultant,
interviewed
the
ways
in
many
groups
for
one
or
two
hours
with
like
frederick
cupertino,
rotary
club,
lions
club
just
church-based
facebook.
I
think
this
would
be
great
if
we
can
use
the
same
format
or
each
of
this
current
stakeholder
person
can
invite
their
group
on
so
that
there
is
a
more
targeted
interview
and
then
another
thing
is
it's
true
that
in
southern
california,
only
nice
cities,
housing
element
is
certified.
B
I
think
190
is
not,
and
the
reason
is
I
heard
that
cities
submitted
their
housing
element
on
time,
but
hcd
took
three
months
to
come
back
with
a
comment
and
say
you
don't
qualify
and
the
city
didn't
have
time
to
really
adjust.
So
I'm
really
concerned
about
timeline,
and
I
still
don't
see
the
timeline
on
january.
31St
is
the
deadline,
but
that
is
not
the
deadline
for
the
council
to
approve
that's
the
deadline
for
hcd
235.
B
Yes,
there
is
a
120
days
of
grace
period,
but
still
there
at
this
time
they
are.
The
state
is
making
it
much
much
harder
for
cities,
and
another
thing
I
would
like
to
request
is
for
the
housing
element
to
specifically
list
the
total
amount
of
dollars.
We
need
to
build
the
bmr
units
assigned
to
us,
which
is
a
little
over
1900
below
market
rate
units
at
750
000
per
unit,
which
is
the
amount
it
took
for
verinda
project
before
the
pandemic.
B
B
A
F
F
Approximately
remaining
very
low
and
low
income
units
is,
as
far
as
I
know,
and
to
the
the
city
of
monterey
park
letter.
I
think
it
was
an
interesting
inclusion
because
it
seemed
to
be
kind
of
a
warning
to
to
other
cities
and
hours
in
particular
because
it
was
included,
but
I
do
want
to
point
out
their
one
paragraph
on
page
two.
When
they
talk
about
the
site's
inventory,
they
say
the
the
element
this
is
to
monterey
park.
F
The
element
must
include
an
analysis
demonstrating
whether
sites
identified
meet
the
region,
the
arena
that
they
are
distributed
throughout
the
community
in
a
manner
that
affirmatively
furthers
fair
housing.
Most
of
the
sites
identified
in
their
inventory
are
concentrated
in
the
northern
part
of
the
city,
so
they're
they're
kind
of
getting
created
called
out
on
this.
The
the
element
illustrated
in
their
figures
that
sites
in
the
northern
section
of
the
city
are
areas
that
have
higher
concentrations
of
segregation
and
poverty.
F
One
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
for
the
the
earlier
iterations
in
cupertino
is
that
one
we've
got
the
concentration
of
bmr
units
at
the
valco
site,
1201
very
low
and
low
income
units
there.
So
we
have
a
concentration
in
in
that
particular
area
and
that
we
aren't
doing
equitable
distribution
across
the
city,
so
that
leaves
just
the
700
units
which
need
to
have
locations
elsewhere.
F
Going
back
to
the
transparency
issue
that
we
have-
and
I
think
it's
very,
I
think
it's
severe
actually
that
the
ad
hoc
committee
will
it
doesn't
sound
like
they're,
going
to
have
any
meeting
minutes
at
this
point.
There
will
be
no
recordings
of
it
and
they
will
be
influencing
directly
our
our
consultant
and
then
the
other
part
is
what
kind
of
information
do
we
have
about
these
13
or
so
west
valley,
community
services
meetings
that
have
already
been
held.
F
I'd
like
to
hear
what?
What
was
that?
What
were
the
topics
of
discussion?
I'd
kind
of
like
to
have
a
billing
accounting
for
how
much
those
meetings
actually
ended
up
costing
there
were
documents
which
were
apparently
generated,
I'd
like
to
see
what
was
posted
and
distributed
and
then
moving
forward.
A
B
So
yeah,
I
would
like
the
same
information
quote
for
the
west
valley
community
service
meetings.
I
think
it's
great
that
you
are
meeting
with
them,
because
they
are
one
of
the
group
that
we
should
reach
out
to
under
the
aff
informatively,
further
fair
housing
rule
and,
however,
there
are
other,
I
think,
below
market
rate
manager
in
our
city,
hello,
housing
right.
So
how
about
a
meeting
like
this
but
include
multiple
on
affordable
housing
and
service
providers?
B
B
B
I,
and
there
has
been
another
notification
from
those
who
signed
up
to
engage
cupertino.org
except
one
message
back
in
december
for
community
workshop
and
the
survey
that's
all,
and
yesterday
the
email
blast
was
sent
out
because
I
requested
to
be
sent
out.
Otherwise
there
will
be
no
notification
for
even
this
meeting.
B
This
is
really
unacceptable
when
we
know
that
we
are
lacking
engagement.
We
are
lacking
engagement.
How
come
we
are
not
sending
the
information
out
when
planning
commission
meets
when
west
valley
community
meets
that
should
be
sent
out.
So
people
know
they
are
meeting
yeah,
so
I
hope
we
come
up
with
a
plan
to
improve
on
that.
I
don't
want
to
come
to
the
next
council
meeting
and
then
here
we
are
still
not
doing
enough.
I
hope
the
staff
provide
us
as
planned.
Postcards
are
sent
out.
What
are
they
west
valley?
A
F
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
just
want
to
suggest
that
other
other
members
here
that
you
look
at
the
saratoga
housing
element,
just
google
it
and
look
at
their
their
site
and
if
you
scroll
down
to
the
bottom
for
for
resources,
they
have
at
the
very
bottom.
They
have
the
hcd
housing
element,
site,
inventory,
guidebook,
which
is
quite
useful,
but
also
what
you'll
notice
down.
F
There
is
the
starting
march
21st
citywide
postcard
in
english
and
chinese
april,
21st,
community
meeting
presentation,
slides
june
21st,
another
postcard
in
english
and
chinese,
and
then
community
meeting
presentation,
slides
september,
a
city-wide
postcard
in
english
and
chinese
and
then
in
december,
another
citywide
postcard,
where
they
are
each
step,
they're
getting
a
little
bit
closer,
showing
their
sites,
and
I
I
feel
like
we.
We
are
woefully
behind
on
our
community
outreach
and
we
need
more
of
these.
These
postcards
being
sent
to
people
so
that
they
know
that
this.
F
F
A
Before
I
take
it
back
to
vice
machou,
let
me
ask
a
question
our
consultant,
so
so
how
about
speaking
to
this
concern
with
regard
to
transparency
and
the
stakeholder
groups,
I
mean
I
did
hear
what
you're
saying
in
in
terms
of
you
know
prospective
exploration
of
technology,
but
I
mean
why
not
just
have
you
know
when
I
just
have
live
meetings
open
to
the
public.
You
know
if
we
can,
you
know
and
and
try
to
make
sure
that
there's
that
availability
for
people
to
engage
is
there.
A
H
H
H
I
don't
know
if
if
it
might
be
more
exclusive,
if
it's
a
live
event
rather
than
being
available
on
zoom
at
this
point
in
time
I
have
heard,
and-
and
we
have
david
on
on
the
line
right
now-
who
regularly
does
zoom
meetings
and
has
has
attempted
some
hybrid
meetings
in
other
communities,
so
he
could
speak
to
what
kind
of
success
there
might
be
for
that.
We
want
to
aim.
We
want
to
set
cupertino
up
for
success
based
on
experience.
H
As
far
as
thank
you
so
focus
groups,
I
believe
that's
what
vice
mayor
chao
was
suggesting,
and
we
have
attempted
that
we
have
sent
out
invitations
to
multiple
specific
groups,
and
that
was
included
in
your
staff
report
or
at
least
in
our
memo.
We
have
not
heard
back
from
any
of
them,
so
that
doesn't
seem
like
a
an
opportunity
for
us
moving
forward.
H
It's
the
dialogue
that
we'll
be
bringing
forward.
That's
the
richness
of
of
the
stakeholder
group
is
the
dialogue
that
comes
out
of
it.
They
won't
be
guiding
our
decisions
as
much
as
providing
to
you
context
that
hdd
is
looking
for.
This
is
the
piece
that's
been
lacking
in
all
of
the
southern
california.
Cities
is
that
ability
for
the
meaningful
actions
or
policies
that
are
being
proposed,
that
it
tie
back
to
an
understood
and
heard
need?
H
So
if
we
don't
have
the
stakeholder
group
that
enables
us
to
actually
hear
that
need,
then
we
will
not
succeed
in
time
just
as
the
southern
california.
Cities
have
not
succeeded
in
time.
If
I
may,
I
do
want
to
share
my
screen.
Councilmember
moore
brought
up
a
point
that
I
I
quickly
did
some
analysis
and
realized.
We
were
trying
so
to
turn
around
things
so
quickly
from
from
when
our
stakeholder
list
was
evaluated
and
when
we
could
prepare
it
for
the
council
meeting
and
I
deeply
apologize.
H
What
I
was
able
to
discover
is
well,
so
we
buried
the
name
so
deep,
as
we
did
our
blind
review
that
I
I
could
see
that
these
top
three
names
were
obviously
among
our
top
three.
Among
our
top
ten,
so
this
this
would
be
our
amended
list
that
we
would
like
to
go
forward
with.
If,
if
there
is
a
motion
this
evening.
H
H
That
board
was
formed
by
the
city
by
the
town.
Let
me
be
specific
before
we
arrived
and
it
was
intentional
in
large
part
to
carry
over
those
who
have
been
deeply
involved
with
the
general
plan
update
process,
because
this
is
one
element
within
that
general
plan.
Their
update
is
not
complete,
yet
their
intention
was
to
have
it
complete.
H
Last
fall,
they're
getting
close,
but
the
same
folks
who
were
working
with
the
general
plan
are
some
of
them
have
evolved
and
now
are
part
of
this
housing
element,
advisory
board
and-
and
that's
that
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense,
because
everything
within
a
general
plan
is
integrated
in
with
the
housing
element.
So
it's
helpful
and
useful
to
have
their
knowledge.
H
So
that
means
that
the
community,
the
population
that
we
would
like
to
house
in
the
future
in
in
this
community
and
in
los
gatos,
what
you
have
in
common
is
that
you
have
to
think
regionally
if
you're
going
to
approach
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing,
because
the
population
who
would
like
to
live
in
your
community
who
hcd
wants
to
know
that
you're
communicating
with
are
not
necessarily
living
in
your
community.
Now.
H
F
Yes,
mayor
mayor
paul,
I
am
I'm
concerned
because
I've
already
talked
about
transparency
and
now
we're
getting
a
a
different
list,
and
I
and
I'm
still
yeah
taking
issues
with
it.
I
would
prefer
that
we
come
up
with
a
kind
of
a
different
arrangement
than
this
particular
stakeholder
group.
I'm
not
sure
what
that
would
be,
but
I
I'd
like
perhaps
some
brainstorming
is
in
order.
A
H
N
Okay-
and
my
second
question
to
you
is,
you
are
our
consultant
and
I
think
you're
doing
so.
You
really
need
to
explain
to
us
when
you're,
like
just
you,
just
explain,
you're
meeting
with
west
west
valley,
other
stakeholders
outside
of
cupertino,
for
the
reason
so
that
we
can
the
housing
element
eventually
develop,
can
satisfy
hcd's
requirement
guidelines
and
so
that
we're
not
being
issued
more
letters
and
more
letters,
and
I
really
want
to
emphasize
on
karami-
is
wrong.
We
are
our
timing
is
really
short.
N
H
N
N
Is
that
not
part
of
the
hcd's
guidelines,
or
can
you
explain
it
to
us
if
we
want
more
participation,
how
and
how
we
can
do
it
or
is
it
not
advisable
to
do
it
or
you
know,
like
council
member
moore,
said
los
gatos
has
another,
and
you
said:
that's
a
different.
That's
a
general
amendment.
It's
a
different
committee.
Do
they
have
a
stakeholder
committee,
a
separate
stakeholder
committee.
H
Okay,
so-
and
we
absolutely
want
as
much
participation
as
we
possibly
can,
we've
been
surprised
as
consultants
by
the
low
numbers
of
attendance
that
we've
had
in
the
workshop
and
for
trying
out
our
mapping
exercise
and
we're
working
with
staff
to
streamline
the
communications.
I
believe
that's
going
to
be
better
going
forward.
N
B
Thank
you,
so
I
am
subscribed
to
the
cte
notification
for
all
notifications.
I
searched
my
email.
There
was
no
notification
except
of
the
december
7th
community
workshop.
That
was
it
okay.
The
problem
is
not
people.
People
are
not
signing
up
it's
because
we
didn't
send
them
information.
Okay.
Now,
as
for
community
groups,
who
didn't
respond,
do
you
just
give
up?
No
one
told
the
council,
we
can
help
connect
you
to
community
leaders
who
who
are
connected
to
the
group.
This
is
how
that
works
in
vocal,
specific
plan.
B
B
What
did
they
do?
We
don't
need
to
know
monterey
park
didn't
work.
We
need
you
need
to
know
those
nice
cities.
What
do
they
do?
I
don't
think
the
current
structure
of
the
stakeholder
group
will
even
meet
the
hcd
requirement
because
you
are
pulling
one
person
representing
a
group.
That's
not
that's,
really
doesn't
meeting
the
requirement
of
getting
the
input.
One
person
doesn't
represent
a
group.
We
need
to
reach
out
to
a
group
there
to
multiple
people.
Maybe
one
person
can
invite
five.
Then
we
can
have
an
interview.
B
So
I
wish
the
hours
that
you
are
spending
meeting
with
committee.
The
members,
rather
it
should
be
spent
with
a
more
wider
audience
yeah.
Maybe
it's
in
cupertino,
maybe
outside.
But
let's
first
find
out
what
those
nine
certified
housing
element
has,
so
that
we
know
what
each
city
is
looking
for,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
that.
It
might
be
too
late,
but
let's
do
that
and
another
thing
is
the
0.5
acre.
I
read
the
hcd
memo,
it
didn't
really
say
only
sites
between
0.5
and
10
acres
are
considered.
B
It
just
means
it
just
says.
0.5
and
above
is
considered,
affordable,
0.5
and
below
are
possible.
It's
just.
They
don't
consider
that
density
is
good
enough
for
so-called
affordable
housing,
but
it's
still
be
considered.
How
did
I
know
that
I
read
hcd
memo
I
would
like.
I
think
the
ndu
should
know
by
now
that
this
council
really
want
technical
information.
B
F
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
I
want
to
take
issue
with
this.
This
selection
process
of
the
stakeholder
group,
in
particular
the
individual
that
works
for
west
valley,
community
services
when
you
are
already
consulting
with
west
valley,
community
services
and
the
city,
gives
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
west
valley
community
services,
including
our
homeless,
work
program
that
we've
initiated
through
council
member
willie
us
willie's
suggestion,
and
that
this
individual
is
a
planning
commissioner
from
los
gatos.
I
I
sorry
I
just
I
frankly
question
your
judgment
and
ability
to
choose
with
that.
Now.
F
When
I
look
at
saratoga,
they
had
more
than
550
residents
sit
in
on
a
seven
hour
meeting
where
saratoga
city
council
reviewed
a
list
of
nine
potential
sites
that
was
january,
11th
550
residents
showed
up
in
saratoga,
so
I
talked
about
all
the
postcards
that
they
sent
out.
They
did
it
in
english
and
chinese.
They
ended
up
with
550
residents
at
that
meeting.
So
I
think
we
need
to
cast
a
wider
net
across
the
community.
Do
the
postcards?
F
A
Councilmember
moore,
thank
you.
Let's
go
to
councilmember
willie
councilman.
Really,
let
me
let
me
ask
also
generally,
is
there
anybody
that
would
like
to
bring
emotion
to
the
table
at
this
point,
because
I
I
you
know
not
not
hearing
one?
I
will
ask
for
the
default,
which
I
think
is
to
approve
the
the
the
stakeholder
recommendation
and
there
is
a
question
as
to
whether
we
expand
it,
but
councilmember
will
your
hand
is
raised
next.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
that?
O
L
O
O
I
I
have
for
for
three
years
now
I
have
been
trying
to
get
the
previous
city
manager
to
accept
that
we
need
a
public,
a
resident
engagement
owner
within
the
city
staff
and
always
get
pushback,
and
we
just
did
a
housing
survey.
Once
again,
it
was
like
pulling
teeth
and
couldn't
get
the
city
to
do
the
housing
survey.
O
So
we
had
to
form
and
we
had
to
approve
a
subcommittee
to
then
you
know
force
a
city
survey
bear
with
me
here,
because
I
think
it
speaks
to
the
to
the
problem
when
we
don't
have
the
community
engagement
process
established
the
owner
within
the
city.
Somebody
like
andy,
comes
in
from
the
outside
and
works
his
tail
off,
but
doesn't
doesn't
have
the
support
from
within
the
city.
O
Parks
and
rec
has
done
surveys.
Usually
they
get.
You
know,
150
to
200
survey
takers,
that
housing
survey
that
it
was
vice
mayor
me.
Two
housing,
commissioners,
you
know
forced
that
housing
survey
and
we
wouldn't
let
staff
just
put
out
for
two
weeks.
No,
no,
that's
not
enough
to
get
the
resident
engagement
that
we
felt
was
important.
Four
weeks
and
at
four
weeks
we
said
we
wanted
to
keep
it
open
another
two
weeks
and
the
end
result.
B
O
Now,
with
that
information,
it
resides
in
the
city
staff
right
now,
kerry
was
the
one
from
staff
that
was
assigned
to
the
housing
survey.
We
should
be
leveraging,
we
should
be
building
on
that.
We've
got
a
thousand
residents
that
took
the
housing
survey.
They
would
be
great
candidates
if
you
know
the
first
used
the
same
process
that
they
used
and
they
did
a
little
confusing
there,
but
use
the
process
that
they
used.
O
Learn
from
that
lessen
the
amount
of
work
that
you
have
to
do
to
try
and
and
beg
people
to
come
and
and
sign
up,
because
this
resident
engagement,
like
I
say,
they're
the
ones
that
put
us
on
this
city
council
and
we
really
need
to
hear
from
them
and
I
get
lots
of
emails.
I
met
with
one
group
on
monday
at
noon
and
again
I'm
telling
them
I'm
here.
Listening
to
you
guys
or
tonight,
at
the
the
ragnar
creek
cross
through
at
diploma,
I'm
telling
him
we
need
to
be
hearing
from
all
our
residents.
O
They
don't
all
want
to
communicate
with
us,
but
we
need
to
be
letting
them
know
and
the
ones
that
will
wow.
So
I
the
message
would
be
to
the
city
manager.
You
know
set
up
somebody
who
has
ownership,
that's
going
to
consolidate
all
the
different
types
of
surveys
that
have
been
done
and
how
did
we
get
the
participation
things
on
secondhand
smoke?
Things
about.
O
You
know
the
weed
blowers.
I
mean
they've
done
so
transportation
surveys
and
and
bring
all
that
under
one
envelope.
The
one
person
doesn't
have
to
do
it
all,
but
they
need
to
be
the
expert
and
then
they
could
help
andy
with
his
big
job
for
this
housing
element.
So
so
again,
I
I
just
worry
that
that
andy's
left
with
you
know
all
of
our
our
our
concerns
and
stuff.
Without
you
know
the
assistance
from
staff
that
has
been
there
before
so
so
on
the
one-on-ones
with
the
city
manager
I'll
be
promoting.
O
N
N
Okay
with
the
list,
the
13
plus
the
three,
and
I
would
make
a
motion,
because
this
is
just
one
group
and
we
still
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
like
council
member,
mor
willy
says
to
reach
out
to
the
all
the
the
other
groups
and
have
more
meetings,
but
we,
it
looks
like
I.
If
I
understand
it
correctly.
We
need
this
group
to
have
a
dialogue
with
the
consultant
and
provide
input
to
the
council
when
decisions
being
made,
so
that
hcd
knows
that
we
have
reached
up
to
a
broader
group,
and
this
is
so.
N
I
think
we're
scared
that
this
is
a
stakeholder
that
we're
only
going
to
listen
to
them.
I
see
this
as
a
small
part
of
the
housing
elements
that
we're
reaching
out
to
a
group
that
we
need
to
have
a
voice
to
consult
with,
to
tell
us
what
they
need
so
they're,
not
making
any
decisions.
If
I'm
understand
correctly-
and
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
so
I
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
include
the
16..
N
So
that's
a
broader
up
and
start
to
have
a
dialogue
so
that
we
can
have
elements
that
satisfy
hcd's
requirement
that
we
are
listening
to
a
group
that
usually
don't
have
a
voice
and
they're
very
widespread,
representing
renters
and
and
different
groups.
So
I
really
think
we
because
our
time
is
so
short.
We
need
to
move
forward,
but
we
still
can
do
all
the
rest
that
we
recommended
that
we
can
reach
out
to
everybody
and,
like
a
council
member
really
says
reach
out
to
the
emails,
we
already
got
and
then
start
to
have
more
dialogues.
N
But
this
group's
dialogue,
if
I
understand
correctly,
is
very
important
element
that
hcd
would
consider
our
housing
element
complying
to
the
firmamentally
furthering
fair,
fair
housing
act
so
that
we
are
listening
to.
We
get
a
dialogue
and
they
get
their
opinions
to.
Let
us
listen
to
it
that
if
that
any,
let
me
that's
not
what
I,
if
I
understand
it
incorrectly.
H
I
couldn't
have
said
it
better
myself.
Thank
you,
yes,
and
I
agree
that
this
is
this,
is
one
piece
of
it
and
and
we
can
continue
to
reach
out
and
see
if
people
are,
are
ready,
willing
and
able
to
be
part
of
focus
groups
and
if,
if
what
people
need
in
order
to
show
up
is
a
personal
invitation
from
a
council
member
rather
than
a
staff
member
or
a
consultant,
then
we
are
happy
to
take
that
step.
And
we
hope
that
you'll
partner
with
us
and
be
ambassadors
with
us
and
we
want.
H
This
is
part
of
your
general
plan
and
a
general
plan
is
intended
to
be
a
reflection
of
the
community
desires,
the
community
vision
and
it's
inclusive,
absolutely
inclusive,
and
we
hope
that
you'll
partner
with
us
in
helping
us
form
those
additional
focus
groups,
and
we
also
can
have
ways
that
they
can
communicate
directly
in
in
our
web
pages.
That
and
so
and
by
the
way,
that's
in
multiple
languages
and
and
we
we
intend
to
continue
providing
information
in
multiple
languages
and
we're
more
than
happy
to
do
more.
H
N
A
A
A
Different
motion:
okay.
Well,
there's!
No,
there's
nothing
to
replace
it.
There's!
No!
Second!
For
the
motion!
Okay!
Well,
I
haven't
really
used
much
my
time.
So
let
me
ask
andy,
you
know
I.
I
do
see
it
as
kind
of
problematic
with
regard
to
you
know,
looking
at
the
other
city
locally,
that
you're
servicing
that
you
know
they're
they're
somewhat
analogous
group,
although
you
know
I
can
see
that
they
have
a
different
process.
A
They
went
through
a
general
plan
amendment,
but
they
do
have
a
significant
number
of
elected
representatives
and
their
their
appointees
in
their
group.
And
for
me,
when
I
look
at
it,
the
only
overlap
you
we
have
with
your
proposed
group
and
that
group
is
that
they
we
also
have
a
member
of
of
the
los
gatos
appointee.
You
know
mechanism,
but
we're
not
we're
not
los
gatos
right
I
mean
we
are
we
we,
we
are
providing
much
more
compensation
than
los
gatos
to
take
us
through
this
process.
A
A
From
our
council
and
perhaps
a
couple
members
of
our
planning
commission,
I
mean
you
know
I
I
feel
you
know.
When
I
look
at
this.
You
know
I
see
the
ten
names.
I
saw
the
extra
three
names
and
now
there's
another
three
names
right
that
we've
never
seen
before
this
evening.
I
scoured
all
of
the
materials.
A
So
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
you
know,
what's
the
what's
this
seeming
aversion
to
kind
of
you
know
sidestepping
our
own
elected
representatives
because
after
all,
well
you
have
your
hand
raised.
So
let
me
let
me
finish
my
question
I
mean,
after
all,
you
know,
other
cities
are
doing
it
in
a
similar
manner
where
they
actually
have
their
representatives
there.
So
I
mean,
what's
you
know?
H
We're
working
with
different
sized
communities
and
in
some
of
the
communities
we're
working
with
there.
There
was
a
desire
to
have
a
steering
committee
that
included
two
planning
commissioners
and
two
council
members,
and
I
can
personally
say
that
the
communities
that
we're
working
with
where
we
have
that
in
place
things
are
going
much
more
smoothly
and
quickly
and
I've.
I've
been
a
fan
of
that
and
I
have
suggested
that
early
on
I
I
am
not
the
one
who
decides
exactly
what
our
path
will
be.
H
H
A
Yeah,
no,
I
I
just
I
find
that
really
surprising
that
something
as
basic
as
that's
what
you're
describing
wasn't
wasn't
at
least
vetted
with
you
know.
Well
I
mean
you
know
with
me,
for
instance,
or
or
or
me,
and
the
vice
mayor,
as
you
know,
a
couple
of
representatives
from
council.
So
so
what
would
staff
like
to
speak?
A
To
that
I
mean,
was
there
an
opportunity
to
consider
having
a
steering
committee
comprised
of
two
of
our
electeds
and
two
of
our
appointees
from
planning
and
then
actively
rejected,
because
you
know,
I
think
I
know
that
there
hasn't
been
consistency
in
the
city
manager
position
of
the
course
last
several
months,
but
I
know
there
has
been
with
regard
to
council,
why?
Why
wasn't
this
something
that
was
considered
by
us?
D
A
You
know,
group
that
you
know
frankly,
council
has
no
idea
with
regard
to
what
the
metrics
were
and
and
input
same
with.
You
know,
planning
commission
I
mean
it
does
seem
like
there
is
a
fairly
significant
amount
of
input
in
in
other
cities
that
go
through,
as
andy
said,
a
more
much
more
smooth
process.
H
A
I
mean,
but
what
would
be
the
point?
Vis-A-Vis
a
stakeholder
group.
That's
already
been
formed
right
in
the
absence
of
a
of
the
existence
of
a
steering
committee
to
begin
with.
Well,
let
me
let
me
go
to
vice
mayor
ciao
and
then
you
know
councilmember
woolley
this
time.
I
think
you
both
mentioned
that
you
had
some
kind
of
motion
of
your
own
to
suggest.
I
will
do
a
time
check
it's
11
55..
A
You
know,
I
think
I
think
we've
had
you
know
a
reasonably
good
discussion
so
far,
but
I
will
go
ahead
and
hold
us
to
a
midnight
stop
time,
and
so
you
know
with
regard
to
continuing
this
item.
We
can.
We
can
continue
this
item
as
well.
I
hope
by
you
know,
having
a
benefit
of
some
thinking
about
this
and
it's
great
to
air.
This
out,
I
mean,
like
don't
think
of
this
as
any
kind
of
a
loss.
This
is
you
know
like
I.
A
B
Okay,
so
my
motion
is
to
form
a
council
subcommittee
to
work
with
the
housing,
consultants
and
staff
for
two
purposes.
I
think
we
need
two
different
groups.
One
is
general
community
outreach
to
leverage
existing
existing
resources,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
list
who
took
the
2020
housing,
2021
housing
survey
and
block
leader
and
those
who
entered
were
interviewed
for
valhalla's,
specific
plan
and
recommendations
from
council
members
planning
and
housing
commissioners
and
the
applicants
from
the
stakeholder
group.
B
We
have
identified
now,
second
to
study
the
certified
housing
element
from
those
nine
cities
to
find
out
the
exact
requirements
for
formatively
furthering
fair
housing
to
ensure
that
we
follow
hcd's
instruction,
because
I
don't
think
the
current
proposed
structure
satisfy
that
because
they
don't
seem
to
in
include
voices
that
usually
are
not
included
in
the
council
meeting.
So.
A
Okay,
councilmember
wooley
did
you
did
you
have
anything
that
you
wanted
to
add
at
this
time?
I
was
gonna
carve
out
about
a
minute
for
any
further
comments,
and
then
I
I
will
go
ahead
and
continue
this
either
to
the
15th
or
the
8th.
My
inclination
is
to
say
the
8th
and
to
try
to
limit
it
to
about
an
hour
as
the
the
finance
item
of
about
45
minutes.
O
O
I
would
be
willing
to
toss
out
that
you
know
if,
if
we
had
three
stakeholder
groups
or
we
went
in
the
direction
where
we
had
representative
stakeholder
group
for
each
of
the
different
subsets
of
our
community-
and
we
really
do
have
places
to
tap
into
for
the
seniors-
we've
got
the
senior
center.
We've
got
age
friendly
cupertino
for
parents.
We've
got
pta
that
we
can
go
into
for
renters.
O
O
A
That's
what
I
would
suggest
I
mean
because
well,
you
could
very
well
second
that
motion,
but
then
it
would
literally
just
sit
there
right
until
we
continue
this.
So
you
know
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
we
continue
this.
I
think
we
should
take
item
11
first
and
then
item
12
on
march
8th.
I
would
invite
you,
each
of
the
council
members
without
creating
a
serial
communication.
A
So
andy,
please
don't
communicate
to
any
of
the
other
council
members,
but
for
your
thoughts
in
terms
of
outreach,
send
them
to
andy,
you
know,
and
then
we
can
revisit.
You
know
kind
of
a
consolidate
because
we
have
hired
a
very
capable
consultant
to
you
know:
try
to
consolidate
feedback.
I
think
these
feedback
points
are
good,
but
I
think
they're,
probably
a
little
bit
better
absorbed
in
a
written
medium
as
well.
So
that
would
be
my
recommendation
city
attorney
jensen.
A
A
Well,
you
know
I
will
say
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
there's
an
agenda.
That'll
come
out
for
the
special
meeting,
so
you
know,
perhaps
you
know
that
that
would
be
the
best
way
to
you
know
just
kind
of
share
that
information
if
it's
available
so
okay
motion
in
a
second,
this
is
to
continue
item
12
to
special
meeting
on
march
8th.
You
know,
I
don't
see
any
other
for
their
hands
raised.
So,
madam
city
clerk,
could
you
please
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
that
motion.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
very
much
folks,
I'm
not
going
to
go
ahead
and
finish
out
the
very
last
item
which
I
believe
is
counsel
future
agenda
items
and
staff
reports.
So
you
know
let's
go
ahead
and
let's
go
ahead
and
forego
that
this
cycle
and
we'll
go
ahead,
and
you
know
reconvene
on
march
8th
thanks
very
much
for
a
good
discussion.
I
know
that
these
are
not
easy.
You
know
items
to
to
consider,
but
you
know
as
usual.