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Coverage of the February 22, 2022 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
B
E
B
So
you
have
to
raise
your
hand
before
this
first
speaker
finishes
speaking
and
if
you
do
that,
you
will
be
called
upon.
If
you
don't
do
it,
you
won't
be
called
upon.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind.
But
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
minutes
from
the
january
25th
planning
commission
meeting.
Everyone
can
take
a
second
to
read
the
minutes
and
then
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
G
D
E
B
B
E
B
I
I
I
I
think
that
there's
more
respect
for
the
cities
when
we
are
doing
our
own
political
business
in
our
council
chambers,
it's
probably
maybe
time
to
look
at
going
back
into
chambers
yeah.
I
think
zoom
has
been
wonderful,
but
I
I
frankly
I
think
that
we
have
been
taken
for
a
ride
by
our
state
for
the
last
two
years.
There
are
people
who
have
taken
advantage
of
the
situation
that
the
public
may
not
be
able
to
attend
meetings.
I
I
I
am
very
very
concerned
with
the
future
aspects
and
problems
with
sb9
and
10.
They
are.
They
are
already
trying
to
rewrite
these
bills.
I
mean
who
does
that
in
california?
It's
the
same
problem
in
washington,
state
oregon
have
the
same
problems.
The
same
people,
the
same
money,
understand,
colorado
and
texas-
are
are
going
up
against
this
too.
So
it's
not
just
california,
it's
people
that
are
taking
advantage
of
the
problems
from
covid
and
taking
advantage
of
us,
the
people
in
california.
I
B
J
J
J
So
I
I
think
it's
staff
and
the
consultant
who
are
making
the
selection
I
don't
as
of
today.
There
wasn't
any
further
information
than
that,
but
I
think
it
really
needs
to
be
made
clear
to
people,
especially
people
who
have
applied,
who
may
be
waiting
to
hear
so
that
they
can
make
commitments
elsewhere
if
if
they
aren't
going
to
be
selected,
so
it
just
would
be
nice
to
have
a
timeline,
and-
and
in
that
vein
I
have
the
only
really
housing
element
schedule
calendar
as
I'll
call
it.
J
J
J
I
just
can't
find
it
there
and
my
additional
issue
is:
I
am
not
getting
any
notifications
from
that
and
I
have
been
signed
up
and
the
city
hasn't
been
able
to
figure
out
why
I'm
not
getting
them
or
they
think
I'm
getting
him,
but
I'm
not
or
there's
none
being
sent
out,
and
I
know
I
now,
I'm
not
the
only
one.
That's
having
that
issue.
So
I'm
just
concerned
so
hopefully
tonight
will
be
a
blockbuster
of
information
and
we'll
have
a
better
idea
of
where
we're
at,
and
that
would
be
great.
J
J
B
B
B
The
planning
commission
does
not
decide
the
sites
we
recommend
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
is
free
to
accept
our
recommendations
or
not,
as
they
see
fit,
that
they
will
have
the
final
say
as
to
sites
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
up
front
that
no
matter
what
we
choose
or
the
city
council
ultimately
chooses.
Some
residents
will
not
be
happy
with
what's
recommended
and
what
sites
the
council
chooses.
B
But
we
are
required
to
do
this
by
state
law.
We're
required
to
equitably
distribute
the
housing
element
sites
throughout
the
city
and
rezone
the
sites
that
we
select
to
accommodate
the
amount
of
housing.
We
specify
and
we've
done
this
many
times
in
the
past.
We
will
do
it
again
and
we've
approved
every
project
for
every
arena.
Housing
element
site
and
our
current
element
will
continue
to
do
so
for
the
future.
K
I'll
kick
it
off.
Chair
sharp.
Thank
you
very
much
good
evening
planning
commission.
I
would
like
to
actually
welcome
our
consultants
from
emc
planning
group-
andy
flower,
who
has
david
massenton
with
him
today
to
also
help
answer
any
questions
we
also
have
from
city
staff.
We
have
luke
connolly,
senior
planner,
who
is
the
project
manager
for
this?
We
also
have
erica
paveda
and
myself
to
help
answer
questions
from
the
city's
end,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
andy
for
his
presentation.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you
pew.
Thank
you,
chair
sheriff.
My
name
is
andy
flower,
I'm
from
bmc
planning
group,
and
I
apologize
if,
if
you
get
a
bit
of
noise
in
the
background,
we're
having
an
unusual
circumstance
here
rain,
suddenly
it
started
raining
very
hard
and
it
just
passed
so
hopefully,
hopefully
the
sound
will
not
be
impaired.
L
L
We
understand
the
importance
of
ab686
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
This
is
necessary
for
our
site
selection,
as
well
as
investigating
our
need
and
getting
a
better
understanding
for
that
and
through
this
we
need
to
take
meaningful
actions
in
addition
to
combating
discrimination
that
overcome
patterns
of
segregation
and
foster
inclusive
communities,
free
from
barriers
that
restrict
access
to
opportunity-based,
unprotected
characteristics.
L
L
L
We
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
tonight,
though,
we're
not
going
deep
into
discussion
about.
It
is
parking.
So,
for
example,
cupertino
requires
a
fairly
large
parking
space
relative
to
most
in
the
region,
for
residential
developments,
10
foot
by
20
foot
and
for
multi-family
nine
and
a
half
by
twenty
foot
in
cupertino.
A
covered
space
along
with
uncovered
space
for
each
multi-family
unit
is
also
required
and
three
spaces
for
duplex.
So
these
are
examples
of
constraints
that
we
might
look
to
in
our
next
in
our
next
meeting.
L
So
the
map
layers
that
we'll
be
discussing
today
and
that
were
included
in
your
packet
for
review
ahead
of
this
meeting,
we'll
be
seeing
a
purple
layer
and-
and
that
is
just
our
broad
brush
layer
of
parcels
between
one
half
and
ten
acres,
and
it
also
includes
contiguous
property
owners,
so
you'll
you'll
notice
that
this
is
a
lot
of
sites.
We
have
almost
400
sites,
specific
parcels
and-
and
that's
because
we're
keeping
everything
on
the
table
until
people
select
through
our
mapping,
exercise
to
then
prioritize
some
sites
over
others.
L
L
So,
to
begin
with,
we've
got
the
neighborhood
sites
areas,
so
these
are
all.
As
I
mentioned,
the
purple
sites
are
sites
that
meet
that
initial
criteria
through
hcd,
which
is
that
it's
between
one
half
and
ten
acres
we've
done
very
little
scrubbing
beyond
that,
except
to
take
out
some
very
obvious
sites
that
maybe
would
not
be
appropriate,
and
we
worked
with
staff
for
that
and
then,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
some
sites
that
were
relatively
recently
constructed
like
the
apple
site.
L
That
would
enable
up
to
four
plexes
and-
and
we
can
see
that
here
with
with
some
of
the
yellow
areas
and
and
what
we
now
know
with
sb9-
is
that
all
the
areas
that
are
single
family
or
r1
they
now
are
capable
of
having
fourplexes
on
them.
So
the
question
that
we
bring
to
the
commissioners
is
the
time
right
for
these
areas
to
now
be
updated
as
well.
L
Census-
and
we
can
share
all
the
data
sources
with
you
and
and
report
them
on
our
on
our
website
as
well.
This
this
is
a
brand
new
release,
so,
which
is
why
it
was
not
included
in
your
in
your
packet
for
this
evening,
but
we
wanted
to
provide
a
little
more
context
and
some
of
the
the
very
current
mapping
that's
available
for
consideration.
L
L
L
This
is
another
affh
map
from
abag
showing
household
media
and
income
by
neighborhood
this.
These
are
very
nuanced
differences
throughout
the
the
community,
and
I
don't
want
to
linger
here
too
long,
because
really
this
map
coincides
with
this
one
in
hcd's
eyes
and
what
I
mean
when
I
say
that
is
that
all
of
cupertino
is
understood
to
be
the
highest
resource
area.
L
L
L
L
L
The
colors
are
actually
oh,
okay,
yes,
the
colors
in
the
background,
are,
are
households
with
children,
so
there's
not
surprisingly,
with
all
these
fantastic
schools.
There's
a
relatively
high
percentage
of
households
with
children
throughout
cupuccino
in
some
places
as
high
as
80
percent,
and
in
no
place
lower
than
20
percent.
H
H
D
L
D
M
L
Have
it
open
so
it
shouldn't
take
too
long,
but
I
I
I
would
like
to
hear
back
from
commissioners
on
these
are
just
ideas
that
that
we
are
presenting
where,
as
optional
as
as
points
of
discussion,
we
wanted
to
not
give
you
a
blank
sheet
here.
We
we
want
to
encourage
you
to
discuss
and
determine
and
decide
if,
if
any
of
these
ring
true
for
you
as
a
as
a
commission
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
towards
that
goal,.
G
N
L
So
our
goal
in
thank
you
for
that
question.
It's
a
great
question.
Our
goal
in
putting
together
a
sites
list
right
now
is
so
that
we
can
hand
it
off
to
our
the
other
half
of
our
team,
who
will
then
work
on
the
sequa,
the
eir
and
and
that's
where
all
of
all
of
the
infrastructure
and
traffic
will
be
studied
and
analyzed
according
to
the
sites
that
are
selected.
F
B
G
E
F
G
F
C
F
F
L
F
F
L
There
are
some
communities
who
are
wanting
to
build
exactly
to
this
mix
and
so
they're
in
they're,
taking
steps
to
be
a
part
of
an
hcd
program,
called
pro
housing
community
they're
attracting
grants
so
that
so
that
they
can
minimize
the
number
of
units
that
are
necessary
to
build.
In
order
to
meet
these
numbers,
it
can
be
relatively
difficult
to
to
have
very
low
income
units
built
within
your
community
without
some
kind
of
assistance.
L
Excuse
me
density
bonus,
but
that's
not
something
that
we
can
account
for,
so
that
would
in
essence,
be
part
of
a
bonus
for
us
as
well.
In
other
words,
we
we
can't.
We
can't
premeditate
a
density
bonus
as
included
within
our
arena
number,
but
if
a
developer
were
to
come
in
and
to
to
request
a
density
bonus,
those
those
very
low
low,
moderate
income
units
would
be
additive
to
the
arena.
Okay,.
F
F
B
Right
mooney,
can
I
interrupt
you,
but
that's
not
what's
going
to
happen.
Okay,
well,
we'll
have
the
15
and
20
as
part
of
our
requirement,
but
we
will
also
have
to
have
some
projects
that
are
say
fifty
percent
to
a
hundred
percent,
affordable,
otherwise
yeah.
It
would
not
be
possible
to
build
enough
market
rate
to
get
all
the
affordable
housing
just
at
15
and
20.
I
mean
that,
would
you
know
just
be
impossible.
L
Right
and
that
there
are,
if
I
may,
there
are
other
mechanisms
that
we
can
consider
like
doing
overlay
zones
that
would
allow
additional
density
for
developer
development
that
would
be
at
100,
affordable.
So
we'll
be
talking
more
about
those
kinds
of
mechanisms
and
policies
that
can
be
put
in
place
and
how
they
might
relate
to
the
understood.
Housing
need
that's
specific
to
the
region,
but
today's
exercise
is
really
focused
on
the
sites
we
have
to.
L
We
have
to
first
anticipate
where
within
the
community,
would
we
like
to
see
the
built
environment,
adapt
and
welcome
these
new
housing
units
and
then
from
there
we'll
we'll
look
to
discover
what
kinds
of
policies
and
programs
are
the
best
fit
for
your
community
and
and
for
the
housing
needs
of
the
area.
Yeah.
F
I
understand
you
know
the
goal
for
today
right
to
identify
the
sites
and
all
that,
but
unless
we
know
what
the
target
number
we
are
aiming
so
the
the
locations
we
may
identify
may
not
be
sufficient.
If
our
number
is
not
4588,
that's
one
thing:
if
our
true
number
is
on
19500,
then
you
know
the
exercise
could
be
totally
different.
B
Okay,
and
also
I
point
out-
you
know-
I
talked
to
mayor
paul
this
morning
and
asked
him
about
some
other
issues.
You
know
from
the
previous
housing
element.
Let's
say
a
site
had
400
units,
but
there's
actually
going
to
be
permits
issued,
for
you
know,
3
000
units,
so
those
those
extra
units
come
under
the
new
rena
cycle.
B
Our
assistant
city
attorney,
could
comment
on
this,
but
this
is
what
I
understood
from
our
city
attorney
and
from
the
mayor,
and
it's
especially
related
to
the
falco
project,
with
the
2402
units,
50
of
which
are
below
market
rate,
and
that
site
in
the
current
housing
element
is
only
for
389
units.
So
there's
you
know
more
than
2
000
more
units
right
there.
That
will
be
part
of
the
next
cycle
because
they
won't
be
permitted
in
time
for
the
current
cycle,
so
that
you
know
when
we're
selecting
sites,
let's
not
over
select
them.
B
F
B
That
is
an
important
thing
that
we
need
to
know
and,
and
we
kind
of
know
it
for
falco.
We
may
not
know
it.
Based
on
what
the
consultant
said
regarding
density
bonus.
Like
I
know,
one
of
the
sites
which
has
200
in
the
current
housing
element
will
be
resubmitted
with
a
density
bonus,
but
we
can't
really
count
that
yet.
B
L
Right,
instead,
it
would
go
towards
that
concept.
Would
then
go
towards
your
your
buffer
and
and
a
buffer
is
really
a
city's
best
friend
when
it
comes
to
getting
into
the
mid
cycle
four
years
from
now,
you'll
be
happy
with
having
had
a
buffer
that
that
satisfies
your
capacity
enough
for
any
any
unforeseen
changes
that
may
happen
in
the
landscape
over
that
time,
so
that
you
don't
have
to
do
a
mid-cycle
revision.
B
Right
but
also
you
know
once
when
we're
selecting
sites
or
you
know,
recommending
them
tonight.
Let's
you
know
we
want
to
remember
what
parts
of
the
city
have
all
these
units
in
the
pipeline,
and
you
know
what
parts
of
the
city
have
had
a
large
number
of
units
built
in
the
previous
two
cycles
of
a
previous
cycle
as
well,
so
we
can
equitably,
distribute
them
across
the
city.
L
I
can
tell
you
that
we
are.
Our
team
is
working
hard
at
creating
narratives
that
enables
you
to
understand
those
those
numbers
so
that,
as
as
you're
working
on
the
map,
you'll
be
able
to
also
correlate
that,
with
with
information
on
the
website.
So
as
as
you're
suggesting
be
able
to
make
an
informed
choice.
B
O
Okay,
I
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
discussion,
we're
having
and
certainly
to
the
extent
that
the
commissioners
are
asking
the
consultant
questions
respect
to
these
slides.
I
think
it's
helpful
for
the
public,
but
you
you
read
my
mind,
chair
sharp,
because
I
I
think
I
would
appreciate
the
consultant,
continuing
this
presentation
and
then
take
public
comment
and
then,
of
course,
you
guys
can
continue
with
the
really
good
discussion
you
guys
are
having.
B
L
So
this
is
my
last
slide
and
we
would
really
appreciate
this
evening
to
get
some
feedback
from
you,
because
we
are
turning
around
our
staff
report
and
memo
to
council
for
their
march
1
meeting.
And
we
would
like
to
know
from
all
of
the
commissioners
this
evening
which
of
these
goals
or
other
goals.
Would
you
like
for
us
to
bring
forward
to
the
council
as
your
recommendations.
B
Right,
okay
and
yeah,
when
we
come
back
to
commissioner
discussion,
I
think
we
can
now
we
can.
We
can
do
that
now.
I
suppose,
if
anyone
has
any
other
goals
to
add
here,
the
only
goal
I
would
have
is
to
you
know
be
sure
to
consider
the
pipeline
projects
and
be
sure
to
consider
areas
of
the
city
that
have
had
a
disproportionate
amount
of
new
housing
and
past
cycles.
B
N
N
N
That
itself
shows
the
density
difference
between
monta
vista
and
these
areas
versus
the
other
areas
like
stevens
creek
and
some
of
the
sunnyvale
boundary
area,
areas
where
the
density
is
fairly
high.
So
that
does
not
account.
Does
that
account
any
kind
of
a
transportation
matrix
in
it?
I
didn't
see
that
there
so,
but
what
to
take
out
of
it?
Basically,
because
you
have
gotten
a
huge
list
but
and
that
list
is
kind
of.
L
It
the
thought
behind
it
is
that
it's
between
one
half
acre
and
10
acres,
so
it
meets
that
initial
criteria.
That's
really
all
that
it
is
at
this
point
and
that's
to
enable
us
to
enable
us
to
then
encourage
conversation
on
how
to
winnow
down
these
sites.
There
is
not
an
intention
that
these
400
sites
would
be
the
ones
to
carry
forward.
B
H
H
Now
we
might
say
that
that
is
not
something
which
is
easily
changeable
because
of
state
laws
or
whatever,
but
you
know
if
we
can
get
laws
like
sp9
and
sp
35,
we
can
also
push
back
and
get
some
other
things
passed
to
make
the
distribution
of
housing
which
we
are
proposing
or
which
we
are
supposed
to
provide
more
aligned
with
the
needs
of
the
city.
So
I
would
sort
of
reform
goal
5
to
say
very
low
housing
or
change
the
distribution
to
be
more
considerate
with
the
needs
of
the
city.
Thank
you.
B
H
B
N
B
N
B
H
The
point
here
is
to
put
that
for
a
discussion,
so
the
city,
council
and
other
folks
can
think
about
it.
And
you
know
we
are
a
democracy,
things
go
back
and
forth
and
if
we
don't
even
talk
about
it,
then
nothing
is
going
to
change
and
that's
the
way
I
would
put
it
just
because
some
deadline
has
passed.
I
mean
you
know
the
governor
can
put
a
new
deadline.
So
so
everything
is
possible
if
there
is
a
political
will.
D
L
D
Good
all
right
and
then
related
to
these
goals,
then
I
think
one
of
them
would
be
to
put
something
in
there
like.
How
do
we
minimize
up
zoning
while
meeting
the
goals,
so
we
can
meet
the
seventh
cycle.
We
shouldn't
be
up
zoning
up
zone
and
dig
ourselves
a
bigger
hole
into
getting
to
the
seventh
cycle.
So
I
think
that's
that's
part
of
it
and
then
related
to
both
commissioner
saxena
and
vice
chair.
Actually,
you
know,
commissioner
kapil's
comments.
D
Maybe
you
know
I
mean
all
these
people
complaining
that
they
don't
you
know,
get
to
their
kids,
don't
get
to
be
able
to
afford
to
live
in
the
city
they
grew
up
with.
I
mean
I've.
Never
you
know
had
that
issue
in
the
sense
of
trying
to
get
there,
but
you
know
maybe
we
just
upzone
those
communities.
If
you
really
want
to
get
there
right
yeah
I
mean
upzone,
those
neighborhoods.
You
know
to
help
those
kids
want
to
live
their
parents
on
the
west
side
right.
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
complaining
the
most.
D
So
that's
just
something
to
think
about
might
be
a
goal,
but
I'm
not
formally
proposing
it.
I'm
just
kind
of
throwing
that
idea
around
so,
but
the
goal
six,
I
would
add,
is
really
to
minimize
upsolding.
So
we
don't
dig
ourselves
a
hole
for
the
seven
cycle.
I
think
the
easiest
way
to
say
that
is
you
know:
how
do
we
minimize
up
zoning
while
meeting
the
goals
and
that's
probably
goal
I
would
support.
D
E
B
Who's
barking,
okay,
okay!
So
let's
move
to
public
comment
now
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
the
commissioners
and
I
see
two
hands
raised
and
again,
please,
if
you
do
want
to
speak,
raise
your
hand
before
the
last.
The
first
speaker
finishes
speaking
and
our
first
speaker
is
jenny.
Griffin,
welcome
welcome
jenny.
I
Thank
you,
hi
everybody,
my
favorite
topic
rezoning,
oh
man,
I
will
tell
you
right
now.
We
all
know
that
these
arena
numbers
are
wrong.
I'm
a
trained
chemist.
I
have
had
multiple
classes
in
error.
How
you
round
statistical
error
and
you
the
first
rule,
is
you
do
not
propagate
it?
If
you
have
bad
data,
you
you
stop
it
right.
There
we
have.
We
have
propagated
bad
arena
numbers
and
they're
getting
worse.
I
am
fully
aware
of
the
casa
stuff
the
that
there
was
a
group
that
suggested
that
they
use
these
numbers.
I
I
Sorry
lost
my
zoom
thing.
Okay,
you
know
we
just
because
hcd
does
something
irrational
doesn't
mean
we're
they're
prisoners.
We.
This
is
a
two-way
conversation.
Unless
we're
living
in
putinville,
we
have
a
right
to
say
what
we
want
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
right
now:
okay,
yes,
I
andy
full
respect
to
your
company
to
our
lovely
staff
to
everyone
here.
This
is
a
trial
by
fire
trial
by
error.
This
has
made
me
realize:
okay,
you've
got
an
apartment,
complex
found,
a
gardens
of
fountain
blue
on
there.
I
They
have
a
flooding
problem
from
calabasas
creek.
I
just
discovered
that
sage
shadow
brook
shadow
oaks
and
city
gate
at
cupertino
could
be
rezoned
by
the
city
of
san
jose,
which
is
on
my
neighborhood's
border.
Rancher.
Encanada
would
never
know
about
it.
I
I
I
have
to
go
and
investigate
that
from
the
city
of
san
jose
to
make
sure
that
those
apartment
complexes
are
not
rezoned.
I
I
Ever
since
I
bought
my
house,
which
was
a
junky
area
in
the
county
25
30
years
ago,
it
has
been
a
battle
to
even
live
in
my
home
or
my
neighborhood.
Everybody
wants
it
and
rancho
was
not
a
great
place
when
I
moved
in
here
there
were
drug
dealers,
etcetera,
etcetera,
but
also
I
am
going
to
say
right
now.
Are
we
supposed
to.
B
I
J
J
J
The
assumption
there
I
I
don't
know
what
the
assumption
there
is,
but
I
can
tell
you:
there
are
single-family
homes
occupied
by
three
four
five
tech
workers,
whatever
whoever
30
something's
20
somethings,
who
are
roommates
in
a
home,
they
don't
have
children,
they
don't
have
families,
but
I
don't
know
if
they
made
a
category
for
that,
and
I
think
that
would
tell
you
a
lot
but
and
I'm
not
sure
who
can
why
do
they
care
fans?
Why
isn't?
Why
are
they
mapping
families?
J
J
B
P
P
P
The
goal
to
consider
the
pipeline
projects
is,
I
I
like
that.
One
and
my
requests
don't
consider
the
neighborhood
commercial
centers
leave
them
alone.
We
need
the
retail
to
support
the
increased
housing
density,
to
encourage
walking
and
biking
and
reduce
traffic,
distribute
the
density
across
the
city
and
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
to
that.
It
helps
our
suffering
schools.
It
reduces
traffic
congestion,
it
provides
support
for
the
local
neighborhood
centers.
P
P
P
B
A
A
Although
I
will
put
out
my
comment,
which
is
that
traffic
will
be
reduced
when
people
are
closer
to
their
work,
we
know
that
for
every
technical
person,
there's
about
seven
people
who
are
not
in
the
technical
positions
who
are
employed
here
and
therefore
having
more
homes
for
them
will
reduce
traffic
overall
it
will
reduce
cross
traffic
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So,
setting
that
aside,
we
need
to
focus
on
the
sites
and
one
question
I
specifically
had
about.
A
A
In
some
way
shape
or
form,
I
appreciated
the
way
they
were
shown
today,
the
the
the
maps
being
a
little
overlaid.
So
you
can
see
some
relationship,
but
I
think
the
list
itself
could
be
useful
if
it
showed
what
what
you
thought
the
number
of
homes,
whether
you
know,
even
if
you
can't
say
what
income
level
of
home
is
to
be
put
on
that
particular
site.
A
Let's
see.
Okay,
I
guess
that
was
my.
My
biggest
question
was
that
it
looks
like
a
wonderful
list,
400
sites,
but
it's
not
clear
to
me
it's
very
difficult
to
find
out
where
those
sites
are
on
a
map
of
the
city
and
the
maps
are
great.
They
really
do
get
you
acclimated
to
looking
at
the
city
and
where
things
are,
one
opinion
I
do
have
is
as
far
as
we're
looking
towards
building
more
homes
is
that
we
do
use
the
transit
sites,
the
bus,
the
bus,
some
lanes
as
an
excellent
map.
A
Q
Q
I
would
say
that
the
maps
at
the
start
of
the
meeting
were
a
little
bit
hard
to
understand.
Maybe
the
legends
could
be
labeled
a
little
better.
It
was,
I
know,
they're
preliminary,
but
it
was.
It
was
tricky
to
look
at
a
map
slide
and
really
understand
what
it
was
trying
to
get
out
and
to
solve
to
it.
Q
For
the
commission,
I
was
curious
as
you
go
through.
The
process
is
the
ultimate
goal
before
this
goes
to
city
council,
for
the
planning
commission
commission
to
come
up
with
sort
of
this.
The
recommended
inventory
list
that
that
solves
to
the
arena
number,
including
the
pipeline
units
at
malco
or
or
will
you
just
be
more
or
less
not
recommending
certain
sites
and
then
keeping
other
sites
alive
for
the
council
to
consider
for
their
ultimate
discussion.
Q
And
lastly,
I
would
just
say
you
mentioned
you
know:
there's
25
people
on
the
call
in
terms
of
an
open
process
with
the
community.
It
might
be
good
to
consider
perhaps
sending
out
a
flyer
to
all
the
residents
of
the
city
of
cupertino
to
talk
about
this
housing
element
process.
I
know
that
saratoga
just
got
done
with
approving
their
inventory
list
and
about
75
percent
of
the
way.
Q
Through
the
process,
the
council
decided
to
send
out
a
postcard
to
everybody
and
the
meetings
went
from
50
people
to
500
people,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
robust
debate,
but
it
happened
really
late
in
the
process.
I
think
that
for
you
guys
to
help
get
real
input.
You
know
when
you
see
25
people
on
the
call-
and
you
know
how
you
know-
passionate
folks
are
about
housing
that
you
know
it
might
be
a
reflection
of
folks
just
don't
know,
and
then.
Lastly,
real
quick
with
my
last
few
minutes.
Q
Can
you
confirm
that
for
a
site
to
be
designated,
as
quote
unquote,
affordable
for
hcd
that
it
has
to
have
a
minimum
density
of
30
units,
an
acre?
That
was
something
that
had
been
floated
around-
that
I
was
just
curious
about,
but
you
guys
are
doing
a
great
job
and
I
wish
you
the
best
of
the
process.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
R
B
At
my
notes,
so
one
question
was:
what's
the
timeline
where
we
expect
to
have
this
site
inventory
that
that
we
recommend
or
the
city
council
chooses,
because
you
know
saratoga
already
did
it,
which
is
true.
I've
been
reading
about
that
their
process
and
the
other
one.
Is
there
a
minimum
density
for
affordable
housing
sites.
R
I
don't
know
that
that's
a
hard
and
fast
rule
and
it
may
evolve,
but
30
is
a
good
assumption
that
if
you're
going
to
go
less
than
that,
it's
probably
not
going
to
be
deemed
affordable
just
based
similar
to
the
size
requirements
for
the
lot.
It's
something
that
hcd
has
determined.
So
I
think
that
number
right
now
is
as
good
as
anything
we've
gotten.
B
R
B
R
Just
in
terms
of,
though
your
assumption,
when
you're
looking
at
accommodating
below
market
rate
housing,
the
higher
density
of
30
or
more,
would
be
the
safe
assumption.
You
know,
because
part
of
this
is
we
have
to
be
able
to
convince
hcd
that
these
are
viable
housing
sites
in
the
next
eight
years
and
that
they're
viable
to
the
income
income
categories
that
are
being
targeted.
R
K
May
add
to
that,
my
understanding
is
that
state
law
requires
that
if
a
metropolitan
statistical
area
which
we
here
in
the
bay
area
are
include,
includes
a
neighboring
county
as
well.
If
it
exceeds,
I
believe
it's
two
million
people,
then
the
the
baseline
density
for
lower
income
projects
has
to
be
30
dwelling
units
per
acre.
So
for
those
units
that
were
in
that
vli
or
the
low
income
category,
though
those
sites
particularly
have
to
be
at
the
30
dwelling
units
per
acre
mark.
R
And
I
think,
on
the
second
question,
in
terms
of
the
the
timing,
you
know
we
really
need
to
get
the
site's
inventory
as
the
next
step
wrapped
up
and
get
that
defined.
I
think,
for
the
reason
andy
said,
is
that
that's
going
to
define
what
we
do
in
terms
of
sequa
and
our
environmental
impact
report
that
until
we
have
the
sites
identified,
can't
get
that
piece
moving
other
aspects
of
timing.
We
don't
have
a
specific
date,
but
the
process
going
through
hcd
to
get
this
certified
is
going
to
be.
R
But
it's
definitely
going
to
be
an
iterative
process
where
we're
getting
comment.
We're
getting
documents
to
hcb
their
first
review
period
is
probably
going
to
be
a
full
90
days
and
we've
been
advised
that
any
subsequent
reviews
could
be
up
to
60
days.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
big
chunk
of
time.
In
this
process,
where
we
have
a
document
sitting
with
hcd,
where
we're
waiting
on
comments
from
them,
so
those
are
really
about
you
know
the
best.
B
Okay,
very
good,
so
I
guess
we
can
bring
this
back
to
commissioners
now
with
questions
before
we
actually
start.
Looking
at
that
site,
I
don't
I
thought
I
didn't
realize
there
were.
It
was
such
a
long
list
of
sites.
I
don't
think
we
can
go
through
every
address
on
that
and
you
know
determine
if
we're
going
to
select
it
or
not.
B
B
So
it's
less
than
10,
so
that
would
be
usable,
because
I
know
that
you
know
the
goal
there
was
to
use
that
for
affordable
housing,
and
that's
probably
the
biggest
site
we
would
have
to
is.
That
true,
is
that
the
biggest
site
that
we
might
have
available
to
do
some
kind
of
large,
affordable
housing
project.
B
E
E
B
K
D
K
B
L
We
do
have
a
selection
of
questions
with
our
property
owner
interest
form
that
directly
relate
to
the
hcb
guidance
memo.
So
our
goal
with
this
is
to
capture
information
that
will
inform
our
process
going
forward,
and
it
does
include
an
anticipation
of
how
many
units
they
would
like
to
see
and
whether
or
not
they
anticipate
that
a
rezoning
would
be
necessary
in
order
to
to
meet
their
needs.
B
K
E
K
B
E
E
D
B
E
B
E
D
D
L
I
I
like
to
let
myself
just
get
lost
and
try
to
find
my
way
through,
so
so
some
areas
I've
I've
explored
in
that
way
and
then
and
then
now,
as
I
learn
more
and
more
about
cupertino
each
time
I
come
through,
I
like,
for
instance,
I
I
on
one
trip,
made
a
point
to
to
go
through
the
eichler
neighborhoods
and
get
a
feel
for
all
of
that.
So
each
time
it
comes
through,
I
try
to
visit
a
different
area
and-
and
there
really
is.
D
L
D
D
B
L
I
I'm
happy
to
discover
what
that
was
partly,
why
I
didn't
include
the
map
because
I
it
is
brand
new
and
I
want
to
discover
what
their
analysis
was
and
I'm
happy
to
also
share
with
you,
some
of
the
analytics
for
the
back
of
the
house
for
our
balancing
act
map.
So
we've
had
679
page
views,
25,
total
submissions
and.
L
D
L
For
70
000
hcd
about
this,
and
and
let
them
know
that
for
all
of
our
efforts,
we've
also
sent
out
postcards.
I
hope
you
received
one
and
it
gets.
Our
message
is
getting
pushed
out
through
the
city
through
very
many
channels,
we're
trying
to
find
ways
where
our
staff
can
have
more
direct
interaction
like
what
we
heard
from
some
of
the
suggestions
today,
when
we,
when
we
use
our
website,
we
usually
have
that
kind
of
ability
and
and
staff
is
working
with
us,
so
that
hopefully
we'll
have
that
soon.
L
So
we'll
have
a
lot
more
iterative
communication
with
people
who
sign
up
specifically
for
our
website,
so
we're
we're
pushing
for
that
and
we're
hoping
for
that
and
everybody's
working
with
us.
On
that
our
other
opportunities
we
might
want
to
put
up
a
banner.
I
heard
that
that's
something
saratoga
did
and
that
they
were
very
that
that
I
heard
it
was
a
very
shocking
banner
that
it
it
just
blasted
out
the
number
of
units
coming
to
town
and
go
to
this
website.
L
N
N
If
you
look
at
it
in
terms
of
numbers
pure
stat,
so
I
would
think
that
you
will
at
some
point,
has
to
normalize
that
a
table
with
some
kind
of
a
criteria
where
you
can
weigh
in
the
responses
which
god
received
a
lot
from
certain
region
and
very
few
from
other
regions
right.
So
there
has
to
be
some
kind
of
a
normalization
on
that
data
in
order
to
really
take
it
at
its
face
value.
What
it
is
saying,
basically
so
and
and
for
normalization,
you
will
have
to
figure
out
what
criteria
will
you
choose.
L
I'd
love
to
talk
with
you
more
about
that.
I
get
excited
about
ways
of
of
presenting
data
in
the
most
honest
and
truthful
way.
I
do
want
to
be
clear
that
this
doesn't,
in
the
end,
end
up
being
a
vote
necessary
in
the
pure
sense
of
the
of
the
term
vote,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
share
that
we
reflect
back
to
the
community
what
what
people
are
preferring
for
locations
for
affordable
housing.
L
You
may
have
noticed
in
the
attachment
that
there
there
does
seem
to
be.
I
think
you
were
mentioning
this.
There
seems
to
be
a
growth
in
the
for
sites
to
for
sites
in
in
the
heart
of
the
city
and
in
in
the
balco
area,
more
than
the
neighborhood,
so
we'll
see
how
that
evolves
over
time
as
we
bring
together
these
individual
sites
and
sites
that
are
in
the
pipeline,
we
can
share
information
about
as
well.
N
L
I
can't
know
why
people
are
selecting
some
sites
over
another
there's,
there's,
certainly
a
logic
in
thinking
that
that
those
corridors
would
be
good
locations
for
for
density
into
the
future
and
and
then
there
also
can
be
an
argument
for
dispersing
the
density
throughout
the
community.
So
it'll
be
interesting
as
we
as
we
move
forward
with
this
next
map.
B
B
Hey
you
know,
do
you
want
to
do
that
or
do
you
want
to
disperse
it,
and
I
thought
part
of
the
hdd
requirement
was
to
equitably
distribute
the
housing
units
throughout
throughout
the
city
which
putting
them
all
in
one
place
is
obviously
not
not
going
to
do
that
yeah.
My
preference
would
be,
of
course,
to
you
know,
distribute
them.
Everyone
will
have
to
share
a
little
bit
of
the
pain,
but
no
one
will
be.
You
know
over
impacted,
that's
my
view.
It's
always
been
like
that,
but
you
know
others
may
others
may
differ.
D
L
B
D
L
L
The
city
has
helped
out
in
many
ways,
and
the
engagement
hq
platform
is
new
to
the
city,
so
we're
still
communicating
about
how
it
might
be
possible
that
we,
as
consultants
might
have
access
to
to
have
the
ability
to
email
out
directly
so
that
so
that
we
can
work
with
that
subscription
list
directly.
That's
our
goal.
I
think
that
will
help
everybody
feel
more
informed
and
and
confident
about
our
our
process.
R
R
And
you
know-
and
I
appreciate
I-
I've
received
some
emails
recently
too-
that
saying
the
same
thing
that
people
have
signed
up
and
not
received
notice.
So
it's
definitely
something
that
we're
aware
of
and
need
to
resolve.
It's
come
up
recently
and,
like
you
said
I
heard
two
speakers
tonight.
So
we
need
to
keep
that
channel
open.
L
Know
what
this
is
this
is
felt
unusual.
This
is
a
very,
very
small
percentage
relative
to
our
and,
as
as
one
of
my
co-workers
said
andy
because
he
he's
worked
on
fourth
and
fifth
housing
element
cycles,
he
said
andy,
I
don't
understand
you're
doing
more
outreach
than
we've
ever
done
for
any
housing
element.
L
It
just
wasn't
the
same
kind
of
requirement
in
the
past
for
these
housing
elements
and
our
team
loves
to
do
outreach
and
we
can't
wait
to
work
with
folks,
so
we're
really
hoping
more
people
come
to
the
website
and
subscribe
and
and
and
that
we
can
keep
that
dialogue
open
and
and
bring
all
of
their
voices
to
the
decision
makers.
That's
that's
our
goal.
D
B
I
don't
know,
I
think
part
of
the
issue
is
you
know
some
people
that
are
interested.
They
may
have
looked
at
the
previous
housing
element
and
said:
hey
look,
the
city,
you
know
the
city
approved
projects
on
all
the
sites.
Nothing
actually
has
been
built,
except
one
19-unit
projects.
We
don't
have
to
worry
about
it
and
they
don't
realize
how
much
things
have
changed
since
the
current
cycle
and
how
strict
hcd
is
going
to
be
going
forward,
so
they
may
not
be
taking
it
seriously
enough.
B
So
the
big
scary
banner,
maybe
that's
you
know
not
a
bad
idea
to
get
people
to
actually
pay
attention
to
what
what
is
happening
because
it
will.
It
will
probably
impact
most
people
in
some
way.
You
know
where
we
decide
and
where
the
council
decides.
You
know
which
sites
to
choose.
Now
I
don't
know
we
could
start
going
through
the
list
of
sites
tonight.
If
you
know,
if
no
one
has
any
objections
to
that.
L
To
share
that
these
are
all
of
the
sites
that
are
well
coming
from
our
last
planning
commission
meeting,
where
we
definitely
heard
spread
the
sights
make
sure
that
more
areas
within
the
city
are
impacted
by
consideration
of
becoming
a
site.
And
so
we
broadened
our
our
purview
so
that
we
now
have
included
all
sites
that
meet
that
minimum
initial
requirement
of
size
between
half,
acre
and
10.
M
L
In
no
way
is
there
an
expectation
that
these
nearly
400
sites
would
would
be
included
as
a
final
list
of
sites.
This
is
an
initial
list,
and
this
is
this
is
really
pretty
close
to
the
number
that
we
always.
We
always
are
looking
for
about
four
times
the
number
of
sites
that
we
need,
as
we
enter
into
our
mapping
with
sites,
because
then
there's
enough
sites
for
people
to
say
no
to
right.
B
L
B
M
B
As
you,
you
had
the
dotted
line
for
regnar,
and
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
is
that
new
housing
is
not
going
into
the
areas
where
the
schools
are
under
enrolled.
So
we
really
need
to
work
on
changing
that.
We
have
some
schools
in
the
district
that
are
overcrowded
and
some
that
are
indeed
you
know
so
low
enrolled
that
they're
in
danger
of
closing.
We
have
cupertino
high
school,
which
is
diverting
students
to
linbrook
and
we've
got.
B
You
know,
schools
that
just
are
so
under
enrolled
that
the
school
district
will
have
no
choice
but
to
close
them.
If
things
don't
change-
and
we
see
this
all
over
the
bay
area
right,
I'm
sure
you
understand-
it
saw
what's
been
happening
in
oakland
with
the
school
closures
and
yeah.
The
problem
is
there's
in
some
areas:
there's
just
no
turnover
of
the
housing
stock,
so
you
don't
get
any
new
young
families.
We
need
to
work
on
that.
You
know
and
it's
kind
of
a
two
things.
B
B
We
know
the
vta
service
doesn't
cover
much
of
cupertino
is
our
via
service.
Is
that
considered
transit,
or
can
it
be
if
we
were
able
to
promise
a
certain
response
time
in
order
to
get
a
ride?
That
would
at
least
take
you
to
a
vta
route
or
if
something
like
via
just
not
considered,
transit
at
all,
maybe
the
city,
maybe
the
maybe
michael,
would
have
to
respond
to
that
or
find
out
if
a
city's
own
transit
service
counts.
O
B
E
F
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
echo
what
you
said
earlier,
which
is
I
I
would
like
to
prioritize,
not
distributing
the
housing
uniformly
across
and
maybe
even
you
know
tilted
to
the
place
where
you
know
they
really
need,
because
the
schools
are
closing
right.
So
if
you
can
develop,
you
know
some
kind
of
an
index
that
says
you
know
for
each
block
or
each
neighborhood
is
the
density
index
or
whatever?
F
And
you
know
and
go
from
you
know
the
highest
density
to
lowest
density,
stack,
rank
them,
and
you
know
and
work
from
you
know
the
lowest
density
to
the
towards
the
high
density.
So
that
way
you
know
we
can
start
from.
You
know
the
areas
where
you
know
the
density
is
really
really
low
and
we
need
to
do
something
about
it
and
if
there
are
sites
you
know
closer
to
that
in
that
neighborhood,
you
know
we
should
protest
that
as
a
number
one
priority
right,
because
we
then
we
don't
have
to
close
schools.
F
N
N
I
just
want
to
confirm
it,
because
I
just
noticed
this
in
the
data
presented
in
that
table
that
most
of
the
r3
zoned
regions
are.
The
parcel
size
is
fairly
large
compared
to
the
other
ones,
and
is
that
factored
in
into
the
zoning
for
r3?
But
it
is
not
uniformly
true
everywhere
in
that
table,
so
I'm
not
sure
about
it.
K
I
can
try
to
answer
that.
Our
three
zone
parcels
are
brain,
vary
in
size
generally.
The
density
for
r3
in
the
general
plan
is
between
20
and
35
dwelling
units
to
the
acre,
but
the
parcel
sizes
range
from
about
10
000
square
feet
all
the
way
up
to
multiple
acres,
because
the
r3
zoning
district
covers
everything
from
a
triplex
all
the
way
up
to
a
70
dwelling
unit
per
acre
apartment,
complex.
K
B
H
Chair
shaft,
you
know,
I
think
one
thing
which
was
there
was
that
about
the
distribution
of
people
in
schools.
I
think
there's
nothing
which
prevents
us
from
redrawing
school
district
like
school
area
zones
to
rebalance
them,
so
the
stuff
which
you
talked
about
about
some
schools
being
being
closed
for
lack
of.
H
Students,
I
I
don't
think
that
really
it
should
be
something
we
can
talk
we
should
be
talking
about.
Our
focus
should
be
on
balancing
the
students
in
different
schools
and
reviewing
where
the
boundaries
are.
Those
boundaries
are
not
static,
they
have
continued
to
change
and,
as
you
said,
some
like
san
francisco
doesn't
even
have
those
boundaries.
H
And
now,
thanks
to
the
way
the
buddha
has
gone,
those
factors
are
not
even
relevant
and
there
is
a
recall
effort
going
on
before
the
school
district,
because
we
can
very
easily
redraw
school
clip
the
school
feeder
areas
to
balance
those
out,
but
that's
not
being
done.
So
there
is
a
considerable
amount
of
banks
in
the
community
about
where
the
whole
school
closure
is
handled
and
with
all
the
amount
of
housing.
We
want
to
build.
H
The
next
thing
which
I
want
to
talk
about
is
a
distribution
of
below
market
rate
housing.
One
thing
we
observed,
even
when
we
looked
at
the
valkyr
project,
is
trying
to
build
housing,
which
is
ultra,
which
is
at
the
lowest
end
of
this,
of
the
of
the
buckets
we
have
is
really
hard
for
the
developers
themselves
because
they
need
to
squeeze
in
a
lot
of
those
homes
and
they're
they.
H
They
have
often
said
that
they
need
to
essentially
build
a
lot
more
commercial
or
offices
just
to
be
able
to
build
those
homes
now
many
times
those
homes
are
not
suitable
for
families.
I
mean
they're,
very
tiny
apartments
which
may
or
may
not
serve
the
need
of
the
people
who
actually
want
to
use
them
and-
and
that
is
except
understandable.
Cucutiuno
is
one
of
the
more
expensive
zip
codes
in
the
state
and
the
country
and
being
trying
to
squeeze
in
housing
at
a
very
low
end
point.
H
So
we
really
need
to
seriously
rethink
about
that.
That
aspect
of
things,
and
because
of
all
those
reasons,
I
feel
the
city
needs
to
push
back
and
negotiate
with
xcd
or
wherever
those
requirements
are
coming
from
to
make.
Some
common
sense
decisions
so
that
the
actual
vmr
program
can
be
effective,
can
be
executed,
can
serve.
The
needs
of
the
people
who
are
actually
working
here
instead
of
becoming
some
pie
in
the
sky
thing
will
build
something
which,
which
is
going
to
be
completely
against
the
character
of
the
city.
H
In
terms
of
the
nature
of
the
housing
we
can
provide
like
300
or
400
square
foot,
housing,
or
something
like
that
or
it's
it's
going
to
be.
It's
going
to
make
very
hard
for
the
actual
builders
to
make
a
profit
on
their
on
their
investment
and,
frankly,
doesn't
serve
the
needs
of
the
the
city
and
the
people
who
live
here
and
work
there.
H
So
as
people
who
have
been
nominated
by
people
elected
by
the
city,
it's
our
duty
to
talk
about
that
and
make
it
a
point
that
at
its
face,
I
mean
we
know,
there's
deadlines
and
everything
they
come
and
go
and
they're
changed
and
we've
seen
a
lot
of
things
change
during
the
pandemic.
We
even
had
monetarium
on
mortgage
payments
and
everything.
H
H
I'll
say
one
thing:
if
you
really
want
to
build
those
homes,
we
need
to
get
it
need
to
get
a
balance
right.
We
cannot
be
having
homes
which
are
going
to
sell
for
one
tenth
of
the
or
one
eighth
of
the
median
price
in
the
city
and
certainly
hope
it's
going
to
work
out
everywhere.
That
simply
doesn't
make
common
sense.
B
E
H
It's
like
you
know.
We
have
a
legal
system
and
those
systems
to
to
be
to
serve
the
people.
I
mean
they're,
not
like
sm,
we
said
putin
is
people
who
are
just
ordering
us
to
do
this.
Do
this,
regardless
of
for
what
is
good
for
us
or
what
good
for
anything.
So
there
needs
to
be
pushback,
and
you
know
you
know.
H
B
E
H
E
D
Yeah
I
mean
first,
immediate
is
really
we
should
double
check
and
figure
out
when
people
are
going
to
be
warned
not
warned
but
informed
about
the
input
process.
So
if
information
is
not
getting
out
there,
just
let
people
know
when
they
should
be
looking
out
for
stuff.
So
in
case
it's
a
spam
filter,
so
just
improving
the
outreach
so
on
that
area.
So
hopefully
we
can
do
that
on
the
second
piece.
I
think
the
goals
that
have
been
suggested
you
know
I'm
happy
to
support.
This
is
more
informational.
D
I
don't
think
we're
voting
on
goals.
So
so
that's
fine,
but
the
third
point
on
where
commissioner
saxena
is
coming
through
does
make
sense.
This
is
like
soviet-style
planning
and
in
some
cases,
even
worse
in
a
democracy,
we
have
unaccounted
for
unelected
officials
with
no
checks
and
balances
between
hcd,
a
bag
and
mta.
D
These
folks
were
not
elected.
There's
no
check
and
balance
on
these
folks
and
they're
placing
mandates,
unfair
mandates
on
places
without
understanding
local
nuances,
and
so,
while
their
intentions
may
be
good,
it's
been
a
cluster
and
that's
really
the
issue.
So
you
know
getting
a
number
of
cities
together.
That's
what
abag
was
for
that's
what
cali
is
for
that's
what
you
know.
This
league
of
cities
is
for
to
do
their
job
of
keeping
a
check
and
balance
on
government
entities.
I
mean
it's
not
an
unreasonable
request
right
now
in
the
middle
of
an
application.
D
B
D
E
D
G
B
Yeah,
I
mean
I
mean
that's
really.
The
big
issue
with
affordable
housing
is
the
end
of
redevelopment
which
was
funding
most
of
the
affordable
housing.
And
now
you
know
now
it's
left
to
a
city
say:
oh,
build
15
or
20
affordable,
and
even
at
that
level
the
property
owners
are
saying:
hey,
that's
not
practical.
B
You
know,
especially
now.
You
know
the
population
in
santa
clara
county
has
been
falling.
The
demand
for
the
market
rate
rental
housing
has
been
falling,
so
you
don't
have
that
market
rate
housing
to
subsidize
the
below
market
rate,
housing
anymore
and
now
you're
having
the
whole
commercial
office
glut
as
well.
So
you
can't
even
count
on
building
a
building
commercial
office
to
subsidize
affordable
housing.
B
D
B
B
S
B
Be
I
mean
it's
interesting
before
apple
bought
all
the
land
for
their
new
campus.
The
city
had
re-zoned
a
commercial
office
site
on
the
corner
of
the
property
to
housing,
because
the
property
owner
said
oh
this
building's
obsolete.
I
can't
lisa,
you
know,
can
I
put
in
housing,
so
the
council
did
rezone
it
and
then,
when
apple
bought
it
they
had
to
rezone
it
back
to
commercial
office,
because
you
know
so
it
just
keeps
going
back
and
forth.
What
kind
of
use
of
the
land
is
more
practical
at
some
point
in
time
anyway.
B
B
So
you
know
if
saratoga
could
do
it?
Hopefully
we
can
do
it
too,
but
it
may
take.
You
know
shocking
people
into
paying
more
attention
to
what's
going
on
they
may
you
know
you
know
people
are
busy,
they
don't
have
time.
You
know
they
expect
the
elected
and
appointed
officials
to
manage
this
and
may
not
realize
how
important
their
input
is.
B
K
Thank
you
for
asking
that
very
great
question.
Saratoga
is
is
right
on
time
with
their
particularly
given
the
environmental
requirements
that
we
have
and
and
with
cupertino
as
well.
We
do
have
a
similar
time
requirements
for
an
environmental
impact
report,
potentially
that
we
require
that
we
need
to
do.
It
typically
takes
about
nine
months
to
complete
one
of
those,
and
we
have
to
get
this
done
as
soon
as
possible.
K
It
just
eats
into
all
of
the
statutory
time
that
we
have
to
complete
this,
and
so
we
just
we
do
need
to
keep
the
ball
rolling.
If
I
may
say
so,
and
so
yes,
we
can
certainly
do
a
banner
and
we
can
strive
to
do
it
before
the
city
council
meeting.
So
we
can
shock
more
people
into
this,
but
we'd
have
sent
postcards
to
every
residence.
K
K
Do
I
actually
had
the
pleasure
of
attending
those
city
council
meetings
in
in
late
january?
They
did
have
a
number
of
people
that
attended,
and
I
can
assure
you
when
we
get
to
the
end
of
this
process.
We
will
also
have
the
numbers
that
they
did,
maybe
not
as
high
but
hopefully
as
high.
It
happened
in
that
last
housing
element
process
as
well.
We
started
with
you
know
with
a
smaller
group
and
we
ended
our
last.
K
You
know
the
general
plan
meeting
in
the
housing
element
meeting.
We
had
well
over
200
people
in
the
council
chambers,
so
it
doesn't
get
real
until
it
really
gets
real
for
the
public.
Unfortunately,
but
you
know
we
do
want
people
to
get
involved
and
we're,
like
you
said
if,
if
it's
the
banner,
the
shocker
that
that
gets
people's
attention,
you
know
we're
happy
to
do
that.
F
K
Both
any
and
everything
you
know,
but
getting
the
the
input
on
the
website
certainly
gives
us
data
points.
You
know
things
that
andy
can
use
and
we
can
use
to
formulate
our
recommendations
in
terms
of
sites
and
also
input
at
these
meetings.
For
you
know
what
you
know,
rather
than
hearing
for
fewer
people
from
fewer
people,
we
would
like
to
hear
from
a
lot
of
people,
and
so
that
is
our
goal.
K
K
B
B
B
L
B
Yeah
and
I've
seen
what's
happened
in
southern
california
as
well.
They're
look
they're
further
along
in
the
cycle,
and
you
know
we
see
what
happens
and
we
see
what
we
saw.
What
happened
when
woodside
decided
that
you
know
mountain
lions,
you
know
prevented
them
from
you
know
all
of
this,
and
it
just
does
it
just
doesn't
work
no.
H
I
mean
that
the
the
woodside
thing
was
like
okay,
it
was
not.
It
wouldn't
have
passed
any
tests,
yeah
yeah,
for
example,
but
I
think
building
housing
which
actually
can
be
built
like
which
can
be
financed,
which
can
be
built
and
which
actually,
the
people
who
are
already
working
here
would
want
to
stay
in.
To
me,
that's
a
no-brainer,
and
we
need
to
just
go
on
that.
B
And,
and
actually
the
thing
is
that's
what
actually
does
get
built
it
just
ends
up
that
you,
don't
you
end
up,
not
meeting
your
affordability
goals,
but
the
housing
that
ends
up
getting
built
is
you
know
the
developers
know
what
housing
is
going
to
be
rentable
or
sellable
and
they're
not
building
something
else?
No
matter
what
those
numbers
are.
You
know.
N
N
So
it
has
to
be
qualified
by
some
criteria
that,
whether
you
are
considering
the
sites
to
be
based
on
the
parcel
area
based
on
the
density
or
some
kind
of
a
formulation
where
you
can
format
based
on
the
city
requirements
and
all
that
the
opinions
you
are
seeking
has
to
come
has
to
be
qualified
either
the
people
who
are
working
here
or
they're
commuting
here
or
they're
living
elsewhere.
It
has
to
have
some
association
with
that.
That
needs
to
be
one
of
the
qualification
column
that
this
data
is
qualified.
N
N
F
If
you
really
want
to
do
that
for
the
400
eligible
sites,
can
we
develop
some
kind
of
a
index
number
that
just
says
you
know
every
site
take
a
half
a
mile
radius
around
it
or
whatever
right
quarter
mile
radius
and
have
a
count
of
you
know,
drawings
or
whatever
right
so
and
then
you
know
normalize
the
data
and
assign
an
index
that
says
you
know.
You
know
this
carries
this
much
weightage.
So
then
we
can
use
that
you
know
to
guide
out
the
decision.
Making
right
go,
go
with
the
one.
F
F
F
Then
you
come
up
with
some
number
that
says
you
know
yeah
these.
These
many
housing
units
are
there.
You
know
within
that
quarter
mile
radius
for
that
site
right,
so
you
do
that
for
every
vacant
site
eligible
site,
so
then
normalize
the
data
and
come
up
with
an
index
that
says
you
know
yep.
This
ranks
you
know
highest
versus
not
this
ranks
the
lowest
in
terms
of
you
know,
then
the
housing
density
within
the
quarter-mile
radius.
L
F
Not
necessarily
harmonizes,
but
it
identifies
another
dire
need
right
like
if,
if
there
is
a
site
that
you
know
is
eligible
but
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
density
around
it,
then
maybe
you
know
that's
a
candidate
for
you
know.
Is
it
a
number
one
candidate
for
high
density,
because
then
that
helps
with
you
know,
distribute
throughout
the
city
goal.
L
B
So
I
you
know,
I
I,
like
commissioner
maripotla's
suggestion.
I
think
there
in
looking
at
the
site
list,
I
did
notice
some
sites,
it's
like
wow.
This
is
a
big
undeveloped
site,
but
it's
in
a
neighborhood
of
single-family
homes,
I'm
thinking
of
the
site
that
backs
up
to
the
cupertino
racket
club
and
it's
like
it's
an
odd
site,
because
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
you
know
a
bunch
of
suburban
homes,
but
it
would
be
appropriate.
B
H
G
E
L
Of
one
of
the
things
that
we're
considering
is
is
to
include
the
excel
file
so
that
people
can
do
that
analysis.
So,
as
as
you
come
up
with
your
own
numbers
for
each
of
the
sites,
you
can
normalize
the
data
and
and
equalize
the
density.
If
that's
the
strategy
that
you
want
to
take
forward
and-
and
you
can
also
share
that-
that
strategy
with
others
on
social
media
and
read
the
concept.
F
F
The
comments
that
we
heard
from
you
know
the
previous
meeting
you
know
from,
I
think
you
know
the
same
concerns
that
the
cost
of
building
a
20-story
tower
and
all
that
stuff
till
steel.
Steel
structures
are
very
expensive
right.
So
so
it's
much
more
desirable
to
build.
You
know
wooden
structures
up
to
you
know
four
stories
max
right.
So
so,
if
you
go
pick
the
sides
like
the
one
that
you
know,
chair
sharp,
was
diff.
You
know
discussing,
you
know
a
four
story
structure.
F
B
Set
what
we
think
the
density
and
number
of
units
should
be,
and
let
them
know
you
know
individually,
not
doing
it.
Yeah
it'd
be
very
hard
to
go
through
400
sites
in
a
planning
commission
meeting
yeah
and
do
that,
but
I
don't
know
I
mean.
Can
I
ask
our
city
attorney
what
the
legal
thing
would
be?
If
we
you
know,
each
planning,
commissioner,
was
to
send
our
consultant
their
own
individual
recommendation
of
what
the
unit
should
be
on
each
of
those
400
sites.
L
Dovetail
with
that
we
can.
We
can
create
a
mirrored
balancing
act
tool,
that's
only
for
the
planning
commissioners,
so
that
only
you
have
the
url
and
and
so
that
together
you
could
put
together
a
map
that
would
average
out
all
of
your
own
participation
so
that
it
would
be
fully
informed
by
a
combination
of
each
of
your
analysis.
E
O
B
L
B
O
Yeah,
I
think
you
want
a
very
thorough
response
at
the
researchers,
but
I
can
tell
you
what
what
I'm
hearing
the
suggestion
being
made?
It's
it's.
I
believe
it's
not
in
the
spirit
of
the
brown
act,
where
right
I
like
to
look
at
it
and
discuss
and
put
together
this
thing
as
a
a
recommendation
for
where
you
want
to
cite
these
and
move
that
on
to
the
city
council
as
a
as
a
joint
effort
here
before
the
public.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
thought
about
this
before
the
meeting
I
was
thinking.
Oh,
maybe
the
staff
should
send
something
out
and
get
each
commissioner's
input.
I
thought
no,
that's
that's
not
right
to
do
that
as
painful
as
it
may
be.
It
should
be
done
during
the
meeting
now
if
there
could
be
a
process
where
we
did
some
kind
of
multi-voting
during
the
meeting
yeah.
That
would
be
different,
but
yeah.
D
It
would
be
nice
to
have
things
easy
to
use,
so
we
can
actually
quickly
like
rank
things,
and
so
you
know
having
everybody
knows
what
the
sites
are.
Everybody
knows
what
we're
looking
at
right,
and
so,
if
we're
prepared
to
be
able
to
do
it
at
that
point
in
time,
then
it
might
just
quick
hasten
the
process
right.
B
O
So,
with
the
caveat
that
I'm
not
for
the
herbal
staff
and
their
timing
and
when
we're
planning
to
go
to
city
council
yeah,
you
know,
ideally
that
would
have
been
the
process
for
this
meeting
right.
The
materials
were
sent
out.
You
guys
would
have
sat
back
reviewed
the
materials
you
know
as
best
you
could
and
came
to
this
meeting
to
discuss.
You
know
there's
his.
B
I
mean,
I
don't
think
city
council
is
going
to
decide
this
whole
thing
on
their
first
meeting
in
march.
You
know
we
may
be
doing
some
overlapping
if
we
brought
it
back
to
the
first
planning
committee
planning
commission
meeting
in
march,
but
yeah.
Maybe
staff
can
comment
what
would
happen
if
we
continue
this
to
the
next
planning
commission
meeting
understanding
that
the
council
is
going
to
also
discuss
it
before
we
could
go
through
the
list.
K
K
B
D
R
I
don't
think
the
intention
was
to
go
through
the
individual
sites,
mostly
because
of
the
volume
of
them
I
mean
400,
it
just
seemed
really
unwieldy.
You
definitely
want
to
get
recommendations.
I
think,
in
terms
of
things
like
locations
in
a
more
general
sense
like
stevens
creek
corridor,
south
deanza,
the
distribution
throughout
the
city,
special
areas
versus
neighborhoods.
Those
kinds
of
things
would
have
been
good.
R
So,
in
my
view,
I
was
looking
at
the
mapping
where
sites
are
grouped
to
more
comment
on
the
groupings
rather
than
the
individual
properties,
because
again
it's
it's
just
so
much
to
get
through
in
one
meeting
to
go
through
all
of
those
sites,
so
that
was
really
the
intent
was
to
get
directions.
So
we
could
go
to
the
council,
we'll
be
having
a
city
council
meeting
on
more
of
a
general
update
and
discussing
the
stakeholders
group
a
week
from
today
and
then
on
the
15th.
R
R
So
I
think
if
we
could
turn
it
around
quicker,
if
there's
going
to
be
another
meeting,
that
would
be
great.
I
guess
one
question
I
would
have
would
be
would
two
days
or
so
be
enough
for
you
to
formulate
your
recommendations,
because
again
it's
a
lot
of
if
you're
going
to
look
at
individual
sites.
It's
a
lot
of
material.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
mean
I
could
look
at
the
list
right
now
and
say
you
know,
let's
put
more
housing
in
areas
that
haven't
gotten
it
in
the
previous
cycles
and
less
in
the
ones
that
already
have
it
and
then
take
into
account
the
school
enrollment,
but
that's
all
in
the
goals.
So
maybe
that
is
the
job
you
know
of
the
consultants
to
help
narrow
it
down
based
on
the
goals
that
we've
we
provided
to
them
tonight.
L
Combination
with
the
public
and
once
we
get
that
banner
up
a
whole
lot
more
participation,
it
would
be
great
to
see
a
groundswell
of
of
public
comments
related
to
these
sites
and
locations
and
keeping
in
mind
these
goals
and
I've
brought
them
up
again
and
made
a
couple
of
edits
based
on
what
I
heard
this
evening.
I'd
love
to
check
in
if
this
is
our
way
forward
to
make
sure
I've
captured.
I
did
have
one
note
that
started
with
gage,
but
I
I
don't
know
where
we
went
with
that.
E
B
L
Actually,
we
didn't
go
over
this,
so
it's
this
will
be.
This
will
be
a
goal
in
the
future
and
not
necessarily
with
this
step,
but
something
to
keep
in
mind
at
this
step.
It's
the
idea
that,
if,
if
we're
choosing
a
site
where
there's
existing
either
commercial
or
residential
at
that
site,
then
as
we
move
into
the
next
steps
and
start
thinking
about
policy,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
any
site
that
we
select
that's
currently
being
used
that
that
we
as
as
is
required
by
hcd.
B
L
So
it's
something
we'll
be
discussing
further
in
our
process,
because
we
are
in
a
hurry
to
get
our
sql
process
started
and
get
our
team
working
on
the
environmental
impact
review
and
and
keep
in
mind.
Also
it's
not
if
we
were
to
pass
a
list
on
to
our
secret
team
to
initiate
that
there's
still
some
movement
ability
with
the
list.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
necessarily
set
in
concrete
at
that
time.
It
it
can't
move
a
lot,
but
it
there's
definitely
some
some
room.
L
I
appreciate
that
you
say
that
this
may
this
may
mean
that
we
put
some
rules
in
place
that
aren't
currently
there
so
again.
That
is
something
that
we
might
consider
as
we
move
forward.
It's
not
necessarily
something
that
has
to
go
forward
to
to
the
council
with
this
set
of
guiding
principles
right
now,.
B
B
E
K
E
B
K
A
L
One
of
the
things
we're
doing
for
now
is
to
just
assume
that
those
two
numbers
added
together
are
roughly
what
we
would
need
as
a
number
for
our
buffer,
so
that
that
way,
it
simplifies
our
mapping
exercise,
because
either
talking
about
sb9
and
adus
or
the
buffer
can
can
lead
us
into
the
weeds
and
confuse
people
who
are
new
to
a
process
like
this.
So.
L
B
L
E
B
B
E
H
G
B
B
D
O
B
B
B
E
B
C
I'd
like
to
interrupt
thursday
next
week
is
the
parks
and
recreation
meeting
which
will
be
televised
next.
Wednesday
is
library,
commission
and
tick
just
in
case
there
is
availability.
I
know
commissioner
xena
did
mention
this
week,
kind
of
being
tight,
but
thursday
and
friday
this
week
there
is
availability
to
to
have
a
meeting.
E
B
E
B
C
K
B
B
K
C
M
C
E
N
E
C
N
K
B
K
F
K
F
M
F
M
F
E
F
K
B
B
Right
yeah
we're
going
to
get
it
in
excel.
I
mean
we
just
have
a
text
file
or
a
pdf
of
it.
Now,
and
you
know
before
this
meeting
I
was
thinking
well,
I
should
reach
out
and
have
everyone
go
through
it,
but
then
I
realized.
I
can't
really
do
that.
That's
a
violation
of
the
brown
act,
I
so
michael.
If
I
had
asked
staff
to
reach
out,
would
that
have
been
okay
to
do
in
advance.
O
And-
and
then
I
appreciate
that,
and
so
so
am
I
I
I
think
you
know
I,
I
don't
think
it
violates
the
brown
act
if
staff
has
sent
the
email
just
just
reminding
the
commissioners
of.
What's
on
the
agenda,
to
review
the
report
and
review
the
consultant's
report
and
to
be
in
a
position
to
move
recommendations
and
provide
guidance
on
citing
for
the
next
housing.